--- Log opened Fri Apr 06 00:00:35 2018
00:01 < felda> our web admin has less technical skill than my mother
00:01 < MikeSpears> felda: beat the webadmin with a pfsense box
00:01 <+AnonymooseWork> ^^
00:01 <+AnonymooseWork> replace him with a tiny script
00:01 <+AnonymooseWork> if they are anything like my marketing guys
00:01 < MikeSpears> or a pfsense box
00:01 <+AnonymooseWork> they probably busted the SPF in order to allow the website to email
00:02 < Sousapro> Donger.js
00:02 < Sousapro> For when you need to build a DONG stack
00:03 <+AnonymooseWork> lol
00:03 <+AnonymooseWork> DevOpsDong
00:04 <+AnonymooseWork> brb
00:05 <+AnonymooseWork> dangit sousa - you got me updating the firmware on all of these before i go home in hopes it works hahaha
00:06 < TheTinker86> know whats fun?
00:06 < TheTinker86> pge cycled the power at my clients location. it caused the router to lose its settings. had to reconfigure multiple vpn connections
00:07 < voidstar> pretending you're captain ahab hunting moby bug?
00:08 <+AnonymooseWork> ...
00:08 <+AnonymooseWork> TheTinker86 ... sounds like someone didn't save their config
00:08 < TheTinker86> yeah yeah i know. i'm still relatively new to this client
00:08 < TheTinker86> at least i took notes on it a while ago so i had all the IP's written down lol
00:09 <+AnonymooseWork> yeah
00:09 <+AnonymooseWork> at least theres that
00:10 <+AnonymooseWork> grumplestiltzkin, Sousapro thx for your help today! I'll probably be back tomorrow :) but I appreciate it as usual
00:19 < Sousapro> Bought a road king
00:19 < Sousapro> I should have fought the urge
00:19 < Sousapro> Oh well
00:20 < Sousapro> I guess I'll go make loud farting noises now
00:20 < Sousapro> At least I didn't go loud pipes lol
00:20 < voidstar> brap brap
00:20 < Sousapro> It's loud enough stock
00:20 < Sousapro> I'll have to work up to bathroom at Golden corral levels
00:20 < voidstar> for the love of god, please don't get straight pipes
00:21 <+CheckYourSix> voidstar: Lol why
00:21 < voidstar> hearing damage
00:22 < Sousapro> Yeah
00:22 < Sousapro> I'm going to use ear plugs
00:22 < Sousapro> Going to grab some on the way home
00:29 < Gencade> quiet today
00:39 < felda> ayyy our spam originated in Cairo, Egypt
00:39 < felda> office 365 exchange has a built in message tracing tool
00:40 <@cryptic1> GO GO GADGET CLOUD!
00:41 < TheTinker86> anyone use pbx phones?
00:43 < Gencade> s/GADGET CLOUD!/POWER RANGERS!
00:43 <+layer-eight> cryptic1 meant: "GO GO POWER RANGERS!"
00:43 < TheTinker86> lol
00:43 <@cryptic1> GO GO POWER CLOUD
00:45 < xe0n> step by step, day by dayy
00:47 < voidstar> seeking advice on writing invoices: should I write up a template in word or would a 3 copy template pad from walmart work fine?
00:47 < TheTinker86> i really hate this phone system they have in place. the previous IT guy was a dumbass
00:48 < TheTinker86> voidstar whatever makes less work
00:48 < voidstar> s/template/invoice/ pad*
00:48 <+layer-eight> voidstar meant: "seeking advice on writing invoices: should I write up a invoice in word or would a 3 copy invoice pad from walmart work fine?"
00:49 < voidstar> TheTinker86, I feel your pain. just did a walk through of a client's premises. nothing racked up and a rats nest of punchdown blocks
00:50 < TheTinker86> surprisingly, things arent a terrible mess in the wiring
00:50 < TheTinker86> the biggest issues are from the previous guy cutting corners where he could
00:50 < voidstar> I'll settle on modifying https://templates.office.com/en-us/Service-invoice-Simple-Lines-design-TM16402397
00:51 < voidstar> and getting an invoice pad for on-the-spot cases
00:51 < TheTinker86> so 3 locations, each has a VOIP Server using CENTOS. Each of the 3 has a different version of Cent installed. then the phone server software is a different version on this. and the cherry? HE NEVER INSTALLED GUI! and every bit of easy to find info on the phone server is based on using the gui
00:52 < voidstar> can't get any notes from the previous guy?
00:52 < brianx> lol Sousapro, your bike has an engine almost twice the size of the one in my car.
00:52 < catbeard> lol notes
00:52 < catbeard> good one
00:52 < TheTinker86> ive been at it a while now so ive gotten most of what i need
00:52 < TheTinker86> but the previous guy kind of ghosted the company
00:53 < voidstar> aha
00:56 < TheTinker86> i wish i would have learned linux back in the day
00:57 < bomb> rm -rf /
00:57 < voidstar> --no-preserve-root
00:57 < voidstar> can't for get that
00:58 < TheTinker86> dunno what that means. i assume rm is remove?
00:59 < pcspkr> find / -delete
00:59 < voidstar> remove recursively, don't ask me if I'm sure, the root file system
00:59 < TheTinker86> lol
01:00 < TheTinker86> how about this. why does this damn freepbx use so much memory randomly
01:01 < Gencade> GO GO POWER RANGERS! - cryptic1
01:01 <@cryptic1> GO GO GADGET CLOUD!
01:01 <@cryptic1> GO GO POWER CLOUD
01:01 < Gencade> GO GO POWER RANGERS! - cryptic1
01:01 <@cryptic1> GO GO POWER CLOUD!
01:01 < Gencade> there is no cloud
01:01 < voidstar> ps auxv; # running processes TheTinker86
01:01 < Gencade> it is just someone elses' compuer
01:01 < Gencade> s/compuer computer
01:01 < voidstar> free -mh; free/used memory
01:01 < Gencade> s/compuer/computer
01:01 <+layer-eight> Gencade meant: "s/computer computer"
01:01 < Gencade> fuck me
01:03 < Gencade> can someone help me with something?
01:04 < BonKurei> Gencade: If you cant afford antidepressants drink no more tears shampoo instead
01:05 < Gencade> what kind of shampoo BonKurei
01:06 < BonKurei> no more tears
01:06 < Gencade> ohhh
01:06 < Gencade> right
01:06 < Gencade> I misunderstood
01:11 < optimull> rsync --delete-before /dev/null /
01:11 < felda> cryptic1 if it makes you feel good I just BCC'd 500 email addresses to not open spam emails sent out by one of our accounts.
01:11 < Gencade> >bcc'd
01:11 < Gencade> Does this mean what I think it means
01:12 < felda> Blind Carbon Copied?
01:12 < Gencade> oh.
01:12 < felda> so that way a 500 person email can't ever turn into a Reply All storm
01:12 < felda> Because it is all of our customers -_-
01:12 < Gencade> That'd be funny to do tho
01:13 < felda> no because if they find out who each other are then they will sell behind our back
01:13 < felda> we are brokers
01:13 < Gencade> I hate brokers
01:13 < BonKurei> Blind carbon copied is for blind people on the internet to read using braille
01:13 < Gencade> BonKurei: ++
01:14 < BonKurei> Our company has a group of shadow brokers
01:19 < Gencade> BonKurei: Who are you
01:19 < Gencade> Have we met
01:20 < BonKurei> I'm usually here from 9-4 on weekdays
01:20 < Gencade> you're on a bit late then I assume
01:20 < BonKurei> I live in silicon valley
01:20 < Gencade> How is it living there?
01:21 < BonKurei> Its great, its the only place you can make 6 figures and still be dirt poor
01:21 < Gencade> That's why I am staying where I'm at
01:21 < Gencade> a 3 br apartment is like 900 a month here
01:22 < BonKurei> Where is that, detroit?
01:22 < Gencade> Springfield, MO
01:22 < BonKurei> Home of the simpsons
01:22 < Gencade> No that's springfield, OR
01:22 < Gencade> we're the bass pro shop springfield
01:23 < Gatewayy> yes we are
01:23 <@cryptic1> did you guys see feldas latest video?
01:23 <@cryptic1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byNlqUFddeo
01:23 <+layer-eight> YouTube Take you to the movies - Bangs " With Lyrics " by 2009-12-31T03:39:16.000Z (duration: 4:02) on Thu Dec 31 10:39:16 UTC 2009, 2009-12-31T03:39:16.000Z views
01:24 < Gencade> Gatewayy: hi
01:24 < Gencade> did I ever tell you I wanted to get a beer with you sometime Gatewayy
01:24 < Gatewayy> lo Gencade
01:24 < Gatewayy> yeah I think you mentioned that
01:24 <@cryptic1> careful
01:24 <@cryptic1> Gencade, has a freezer in the back of his van
01:24 < Gencade> I don't have a van though cryptic1
01:25 < Gencade> I think you're thinking of kenrin
01:25 <@cryptic1> keep telling everyone that
01:25 < Gencade> I do
01:25 <@cryptic1> felda
01:25 <@cryptic1> felda
01:25 <@cryptic1> felda
01:25 <@cryptic1> felda
01:25 <@cryptic1> felda
01:25 <@cryptic1> felda
01:25 <@cryptic1> felda
01:25 < binaryhermit> Gencade: also Missouri State University?
01:25 < Gencade> cryptic1: quit flooding you narb
01:25 <@cryptic1> no u
01:25 < Gencade> binaryhermit: Yeah I attend part-time
01:26 < Gatewayy> binaryhermit: thats where I graduated from
01:26 < Gencade> working towards BS
01:26  * binaryhermit went to SIU for 2 years in the early to mid 2000s
01:26 < Gencade> binaryhermit: is that when you decided to become a hermit
01:26 <+MillerBOSS> ZOMG stop pinging me
01:26 < binaryhermit> unmedicated schizoaffective disorder bipolar type is a bitch
01:26 <+MillerBOSS> ZOMG stop pinging mee
01:26 <+MillerBOSS> ZOMG stop pinging meee
01:26 <+MillerBOSS> ZOMG stop pinging meeee
01:26 <+MillerBOSS> what?
01:26 <@cryptic1> MillerBOSS,
01:26 <@cryptic1> MillerBOSS,
01:26 <@cryptic1> MillerBOSS,
01:26 <@cryptic1> MillerBOSS,
01:26 <+MillerBOSS> Weeee
01:26 < Gencade> stop flooding
01:26 < Gencade> you cunts
01:26 <+MillerBOSS> cryptic1 👉
01:26 <+MillerBOSS> cryptic1 👉
01:26 <+MillerBOSS> cryptic1 👉
01:26 <+MillerBOSS> cryptic1 👉
01:26 < binaryhermit> if I had stayed on my meds I probably would have graduated
01:27 <+MillerBOSS> cryptic1 👉
01:27 < Gencade> binaryhermit: where'd the meds go
01:27 <+MillerBOSS> Up your ass
01:27 < Gencade> MillerBOSS:  /clap
01:27  * MillerBOSS slaps Gencade around a bit with a large trout
01:27 <+MillerBOSS> I forgot what working feels like
01:29 < Gencade> MillerBOSS: keep your fish to yourself
01:29 <+MillerBOSS> Too late
01:29 < Gencade> Not too late
01:29 < Gencade> just in time
01:30 < Gencade> cryptic1:
01:30 < Gencade> cryptic1:
01:30 < Gencade> cryptic1:
01:31 <@cryptic1> HEY HEY HEY
01:31 <+MillerBOSS> what?
01:31 < Gencade> get back to work cryptic1
01:31 <@cryptic1> only i am allowed to do that
01:31 < Gencade> get back to work cryptic1
01:31 <@cryptic1> OPABUSE :D
01:31 <+MillerBOSS> .bofh
01:31 <@cryptic1> D:
01:31 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS, BOFH says: Stubborn processes
01:31 <@cryptic1> I am working
01:31 < Gencade> cryptic1: working on what
01:31 < AustinS> MillerBOSS go watch wrasslin
01:31 <+MillerBOSS> I don't need that rabbit hole, AustinS
01:32 <+MillerBOSS> I only watch the oldies not new stuff if any of it AustinS
01:32 < AustinS> lies
01:32 <+MillerBOSS> Truthes
01:32 < Gencade> tries
01:35 <+MillerBOSS> I get message >take $website down. (We have multiple sites) I say what? I said I need to confirm with owner. Azure hosted website to index.html CloudFront/S3 for now. I wish I new how to make a proper web store.
01:35 <+MillerBOSS> S/new/knew
01:35 <+MillerBOSS> fail
01:35 <+MillerBOSS> s/new/knew
01:35 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS meant: "S/knew/kknew"
01:35 < Gencade> s/S/s
01:35 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS meant: "s/knew/kknew"
01:35 <+MillerBOSS> Ha ha
01:35 < AustinS> lol
01:36 < Gencade> double fail
01:36 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah so YEAH SO
01:36 < Gencade> YEAH
01:36 <+MillerBOSS> .yt yeah so dumb dumber
01:36 <+layer-eight> YouTube Dumb and Dumber favorite scene - https://youtu.be/gbvSQRHUm6c
01:37 <+MillerBOSS> The shagg'n wagon
01:37 < AustinS> s/./
01:37 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS meant: ""
01:37 < Gencade> quit abusing the bot
01:38 < Gencade> or cryptic1 will turn it off
01:38 <@cryptic1> it will get bant
01:38 < AustinS> she likes it
01:38 < Gencade> cryptic1: ban yourself
01:38 <@cryptic1> oops
01:38 <@cryptic1> wrong button
01:38 <@cryptic1> sorry about that
01:38 < Gencade> cryptic1 is more of a nazi than kenrin
01:39 < Gencade> welcome back layer-eight
01:39 < Gencade> .bofh
01:39 <+MillerBOSS> I'll tell you where
01:39 < Gencade> nooo
01:40 <+MillerBOSS> I am talking about a little place called assspen
01:40 < Gencade> .bofh
01:40 <+layer-eight> Gencade, BOFH says: Computers under water due to SYN flooding.
01:40 < Gencade> yesss
01:40 <+MillerBOSS> Nooo
01:41 < Gencade> s/Nooo/Yessss
01:41 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS meant: "Yessss"
01:41 < AustinS> s/./
01:42 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS meant: ""
01:42 <+MillerBOSS> You silt the salt Gencade
01:42 < AustinS> was just seeing if it rebooted to block me from messing with it :(
01:42 < Gencade> you stilt the malt MillerBOSS
01:42 <+MillerBOSS> Fuck I can not type
01:42 < Gencade> have you tried using your fingers instead of your nose MillerBOSS
01:42 <+MillerBOSS> Who does that?
01:43 <+MillerBOSS> I use my toes man
01:43 < Gencade> idk heard it's what those millennials are doin
01:43 <+MillerBOSS> All the kids do it https://www.google.com/search?q=typing+computer+keyboard+toes
01:43 < Gencade> NSFW, foot fetish
01:44 <+MillerBOSS> I do not have that. I don't understand that one at all
01:44 <+MillerBOSS> This guy is a pro! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5wfDbRBlzY
01:44 <+layer-eight> YouTube How I Type and Text with my FEET! by 2011-07-16T17:00:24.000Z (duration: 2:20) on Sun Jul 17 00:00:24 UTC 2011, 2011-07-16T17:00:24.000Z views
01:45 < AustinS> what if i have no toes :(
01:45 < AustinS> i do, but what if
01:45 < Gencade> AustinS: grow new ones
01:45 <+MillerBOSS> Then you use your fingers
01:45 < Gencade> like in a jar
01:45 < AustinS> reminds me of how they grew that ear under the guys skin one time
01:46 < AustinS> was cool/interesting but weird af
01:46 <+MillerBOSS> The fuck. He typed a message on a small hard keyboard on a phone with his toes. Wow.
01:46 < Gencade> reminds me of the guy I saw replace some torn off skin on his finger from skin on his ass
01:46 < Gencade> and it started growing hair
01:46 <+MillerBOSS> I guess if you have no arms you'll figure it out
01:46 < Gencade> MillerBOSS: DAE Broken ARMS?!
01:46 < Gencade> DAE EVERY THREAD
01:46 <+MillerBOSS> Yourmom?
01:46 < AustinS> i broke both wrists last summer
01:46 <+MillerBOSS> What?
01:46 < AustinS> worst 2 months off work ever. do not recommend.
01:47 < Gencade> one time I got a cyst right above my asshole
01:47 < Gencade> and I had to get it cut out
01:47 < Gencade> I couldn't sit down
01:47 <+MillerBOSS> One time
01:47 < Gencade> for like 2 months
01:47 <+MillerBOSS> In band camp
01:47 < AustinS> go on...
01:49 <+MillerBOSS> That joke is before your time I guess
01:50 < AustinS> no, it wasn't, i just wanted to know what instrument!
01:50 <+MillerBOSS> Tuba
01:50 < AustinS> it was mostly just a bad joke cause im tired/the convo died. :p
01:50 < Gencade> convo didn't die
01:50 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts7uhWdvmwo
01:50 <+layer-eight> YouTube Alyson Talks 'That One Time At Band Camp' | HPL by 2013-05-14T13:30:11.000Z (duration: 1:20) on Tue May 14 20:30:11 UTC 2013, 2013-05-14T13:30:11.000Z views
01:50 < AustinS> Gencade you died
01:50 < Gencade> I wat to talk about my surgery more
01:50 < Gencade> want
01:50 < Gencade> you died bruh
01:50 < AustinS> Gencade why talk about it just show us pics
01:52 < Gencade> AustinS: I don't know if I have pics I'd have to check
01:52 < Gencade> but now there's a gaping dip in my ass right above my asshole AustinS
01:52 < Gencade> it's weird
01:52 <+MillerBOSS> What the fuck
01:52 < AustinS> lol don't know if you have them or don't know if you took them? I feel like i'd remember if i took pics of my ass.
01:52 < AustinS> but even if you do, you don't need to share them was jk jkjk
01:52  * MillerBOSS goes back to work
01:53 < insecurity> one time i worked
01:53 < Gencade> $girlfriend at the time took some pictures so I could see what it looked like
01:53 < Gencade> because obviously I couldn't see my own ass very well.
01:53 < AustinS> stand over a mirror
01:53 < Gencade> MillerBOSS: where you goin
01:53 < Gencade> get back here
01:53 < voidstar> >at the time
01:54 < Gencade> AustinS: it was above my asshole, like below my lower back
01:54 <+MillerBOSS> Away from you. You smell.
01:54 < Gencade> not near my taint
01:54 < MikeSpears> you people are freaks
01:54 <+MillerBOSS> Fromunda
01:54 < AustinS> oh
01:55 < AustinS> MikeSpears you're in the wrong channel, this is clearly very sysadmin'y stuff we're discussing here. it's all critical to keep the networks up
01:55 < MikeSpears> don't think so
01:56 <+MillerBOSS> I hear fromunda cheese is good for CPU grease
01:56 < DrGibby|> s/girlfriend/boyfriend
01:56 <+layer-eight> Gencade meant: "$boyfriend at the time took some pictures so I could see what it looked like"
01:56 <+MillerBOSS> Wow u gay Gencade
01:56 < DrGibby|> we all knew that tho
01:56 <+MillerBOSS> Still, WoW
01:57 < AustinS> wats wrong with boys
01:57 <+MillerBOSS> Ewwwwwwwwwww
01:57 < AustinS> everyone needs a bad boy in their life
01:57 < AustinS> lmao
01:57  * DrGibby| farts on AustinS 
01:57 <+MillerBOSS> Dicks are for chics only
01:58 <+MillerBOSS> Unless its Gencade
01:58 < AustinS> nahh they're for whoever wants 'em. yours is tho I guess :p
01:58 < Gencade> wow guys
01:58 < Gencade> be nice
01:58 < DrGibby|> no
01:58 < Gencade> I'm not gay
01:58 < DrGibby|> yes you are
01:58 < Gencade> no I'm ot
01:59 < Gencade> not*
01:59 < DrGibby|> yes you are
01:59 <+MillerBOSS> s/not//
01:59 <+layer-eight> Gencade meant: "*"
01:59 <+MillerBOSS> s/not/ /
01:59 <+layer-eight> Gencade meant: "I'm   gay"
01:59 < Gencade> LOL
01:59 < DrGibby|> top kek
01:59 < AustinS> ok first useful use of s// i've seen.
01:59 < Gencade> anyway, about the gap above my asshole again
01:59 < DrGibby|> wtf
01:59 < DrGibby|> why
01:59 <+MillerBOSS> See
01:59 < DrGibby|> why are we talking about this
01:59 <+MillerBOSS> Total gay
01:59 < Gencade> DrGibby|: I had a cyst there, and had to get it cut out
01:59 <+MillerBOSS> 100%
01:59 < DrGibby|> I NEED AN ADULT
01:59 < Gencade> and there's a gap there now
01:59 < DrGibby|> Gencade: we call that a butthole
02:00 < Gencade> it's above my butthole you shithead
02:00 < DrGibby|> the bottom hole is the vagina
02:00 < DrGibby|> you shithead
02:00 < Gencade> you're a bitch DrGibby|
02:00 < Gencade> die in a fire
02:00 <+MillerBOSS> Boys have a penis, girls have a vageyna
02:00 < Gencade> how is your week goin DrGibby|
02:00 < Gencade> I hope it's well
02:00 < DrGibby|> Gencade: no, I'm pretty sure you're the bitch, given you have a va-jay-jay
02:00 < AustinS> i clearly started something I shouldn't have/regret
02:00 < AustinS> lol
02:01 < DrGibby|> Gencade: well. I guess. Lots going on. How's yours bud?
02:01 < Gencade> Not too bad, $company sold off one of it's franchises
02:01 < DrGibby|> downsizing?
02:01 < Gencade> so a lot of driving picking up assets
02:01 < Gencade> Naw, strict rules set by corporate
02:01 < Gencade> wanted us to keep buying stores
02:01 < DrGibby|> gotcha!
02:01 < Gencade> yeah, $topboss got tired of arguing with them
02:02 < Gencade> and just sold it
02:02 < DrGibby|> lol nice
02:02 < Gencade> but yeah, been driving a lot, so haven't been on here as much as I like
02:02 < DrGibby|> "I'm sick of dealing with you, so I'm selling you off"
02:02 < Gencade> I miss you DrGibby| :(
02:02 < DrGibby|> Gencade: we dont miss you
02:02 < DrGibby|> <3
02:02 < Gencade> D:
02:02 < Gencade> </3
02:02 < DrGibby|> <3
02:03 < Gencade> <//3
02:03 <+MillerBOSS> Will facebook just die in a bond fire already https://www.techmeme.com/180405/p21#a180405p21 Facebook disables email and phone number search after malicious actors abused the features to scrape public profile data; company says most accounts affected
02:03 < Gencade> I wish equifax would die in a fire already before facebook
02:03 < Gencade> funny how everyone is freaking about facebook, when equifax was much worse and is still in business
02:03 < DrGibby|> I'm going to go out on a limb and say neither of them are going to 'die'
02:03 <+MillerBOSS> Actually we have nothing to worry about really when you have companies  like LexisNexis
02:04 <+MillerBOSS> They have all the data on everyone
02:04 <+MillerBOSS> And the government uses that data as well as adds to it.
02:04 < DrGibby|> ^^^
02:04 < DrGibby|> yup!
02:04 < Gencade> can I just delete my identity and start over
02:04 < DrGibby|> not much we can do about that
02:04 < Gencade> this one sucks
02:05 < DrGibby|> Gencade: sure
02:05 < Gencade> thanks, when can I expect my new name
02:05 < DrGibby|> in about 60 years
02:05 < Gencade> can it be something cool, like jaraxus
02:05 < Sousapro> brianx: I thought it was time for a small motorcycle
02:06 < DrGibby|> no, thats a new rule; No "cool" names
02:06 < Gencade> damn, that's the shits
02:06 < brianx> that's not exactly small.  though given your size, it's not all that big for you either.
02:06 < DrGibby|> thats what she said?
02:07 < Gencade> DrGibby|: what have you bene working on
02:07 < brianx> hmm, not sure how that applies to Sousapro DrGibby|
02:08 < AustinS> brb frens
02:08 < Sousapro> DrGibby|: lol
02:08 < Gencade> omg I just found this
02:08 < Gencade> [10:11:35] * linuxdood grabs popcorn [10:11:35] * Code_Man65 has kicked linuxdaemon from #reddit-sysadmin (Weekly text editor fight quota has been exhausted) [10:11:44] <ihre> wrong user
02:08 < Gencade> made me bust up
02:08 < Sousapro> brianx: it's like the heritage on most people lol
02:08 < DrGibby|> lets see. A new client on boarding, a couple of breaches, some forensic work for a case, 4 different pen tests AAANNNNND a partridge in a pear tree
02:08 < Sousapro> Now I just have to quit stalling in parking lots
02:09 < brianx> Sousapro: i have my M, but i don't actually ride, nor own a bike.
02:09 < Sousapro> 8 red lights? Easy
02:09 < Sousapro> Walmart? Totally boned
02:09 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> DrGibby|: That's too much work for being this close to the weekend.
02:09 < AustinS> DrGibby hope you work for a security/audit company of some sort (i mean it sounds like you do)
02:09 < brianx> Sousapro: i take it you don't drive a stick shift car.  bikes are easy by comparison.
02:09 < AustinS> otherwise a couple of breaches doesn't sound fun :p
02:09 < DrGibby|> SysAdminGoneCraZ: its more of my team doing it
02:09 < DrGibby|> AustinS: yes, we do MSSP work
02:10 < brianx> Sousapro: though it did take me awhile to get used to letting it slide quite so much.
02:10 < DrGibby|> but I've had meetings with the FBI/SS all week
02:10 < AustinS> phew :)
02:10 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> DrGibby|: Damn
02:10 < DrGibby|> yeah
02:10 < DrGibby|> well, comes with the territory
02:10 < DrGibby|> BUT TONIGHT I DEINK BEER
02:10 < DrGibby|> drink, too
02:11 < AustinS> yeah deink that shit for sure, pretty sure ingesting ink is unhealthy
02:12 < Sousapro> brianx: the bigger problem is that I came from a scooter
02:12 < Sousapro> brianx: so I'm used to twist and go
02:12 < brianx> Sousapro: lol, that makes sense.  this is no scooter.
02:13 < Sousapro> brianx: yeah, doubled my curb weight. My old scoot was 500cc so this is a massive torque increase
02:13 < Sousapro> I love it though
02:13 < brianx> Sousapro: my experience is mostly on 250 to 500cc bikes, your new bike is likely much lower reving than those bikes.
02:13 < Sousapro> Hydraulic clutch is so nice
02:14 < Sousapro> brianx: true. Gotta work on my clutching
02:14 < brianx> it takes practice.
02:14 < brianx> but easier than a car.  just let it slip a lot.  way more than you would in a car.
02:14 < brianx> they're made for it.
02:15 < Sousapro> Like very slow with the left hand?
02:15 < brianx> yes
02:16 < brianx> keep rpms up where you want them and let the bike catch up to the engine.
02:18 < brianx> with a big engine like that, i'd guess you normally want it to run around two times idle or so for just cruising.
02:18 < brianx> of course you can wind it up a lot more to go.
02:21 < Sousapro> How long would you take to totally release the clutch?
02:23 < brianx> several seconds.  maybe 5.  the timing isn't something you think about, it's done by feel.
02:24 < brianx> you can feel the end of the slipping and the rpm will start rising even though you're still letting the last of the play in the clutch go.
02:25 < admiralspark> hmm
02:25 < admiralspark> do you guys not clutchless shift?
02:25 < brianx> on a bike?
02:25 < admiralspark> yeah
02:25 < admiralspark> upshifts, anyway
02:25 < admiralspark> obvs not from a stop, and now I bet that's what you're referring to
02:26 < brianx> nope.  i was never taught how to do it.   yeah, everything i'm talking about is from a stop.
02:29 < brianx> for second, you only let it slip a little, mostly if you're up shifting early because you're just cruising slowly and want to keep noise down or economy up.  above that, you don't really at all.
02:29 < DrGibby|> https://youtu.be/IrXQ4OXmQok I have those headphones
02:29 <+layer-eight> YouTube HOW MUCH IS TOO LITTLE? by 2017-12-01T19:28:26.000Z (duration: 2:25) on Sat Dec 02 02:28:26 UTC 2017, 2017-12-01T19:28:26.000Z views
02:33 < TheTinker86> question for the linux guys
02:34 < admiralspark> Leenucks time!
02:35 < admiralspark> must be a good question TheTinker86
02:35 < brianx> he's thinking about just how to ask it...
02:35 < mkillebrew> I wish more people would do that
02:35 < DrGibby|> is always DNS
02:35 < admiralspark> damnit, was just gonna say
02:35 < DrGibby|> s/is/its
02:35 <+layer-eight> DrGibby| meant: "its always DNS"
02:36 < admiralspark> s/its/it's
02:36 <+layer-eight> DrGibby| meant: "it's always DNS"
02:36 < brianx> i almost did that admiralspark lol
02:36 < admiralspark> I'm surprised layer8 didn't mess with something I said
02:36 < admiralspark> it must just check previous lines until it finds a match
02:36 < TheTinker86> I have a phone system installed on a copy of Cent OS. Cent OS does NOT have GUI installed. If i wanted to install the GUI, would this interfere with the Phone system that is currently running on it? i imagine it should be fine but i'm not up on linux
02:36 < admiralspark> which phone system?
02:37 < admiralspark> and why do you need the gui?
02:37 < DrGibby|> ^^
02:37 < TheTinker86> The phone system is Freepbx
02:38 < brianx> also depends on the load on the phone system.  a little 2 line system, no problem.  a 300 line monster, think twice.
02:38 < mkillebrew> should be fine, unless it changes underlying libraries whose version your system depends upon; you probably don't need it
02:38 < admiralspark> And you maintain it, it doesn't have contract management of the phones by someone else?
02:38 < TheTinker86> and im such a noob on linux and this phone system, the issue i run into is looking up commands. Also. there are 3 of these systems in place and all are using different versions of the OS and pbx software which causes a lot of googling for finding commands
02:38 < admiralspark> TheTinker86: brianx is right, depends on system utilization. No reason to have the DE if you have Freepbx/Asterix as they have one for managing their systems already but....shouldn't hurt if system load is low
02:39 < admiralspark> ahh
02:39 < TheTinker86> the DE?
02:39 < admiralspark> desktop environment, DE, the full desktop experience if it was windows server
02:39 < TheTinker86> gotcha
02:39 < TheTinker86> only ever heard gui before lol
02:39 < admiralspark> so, no contract/other company involved?
02:40 < TheTinker86> nope
02:40 < TheTinker86> the previous tech installed these systems himself
02:40 < admiralspark> kk. Three different versions too eh?
02:40 < admiralspark> hmm
02:40 < TheTinker86> lol yeah
02:40 < admiralspark> what's the load look like in Freepbx?
02:40 < mkillebrew> like fucking nothing
02:40 < admiralspark> uhh
02:40 < TheTinker86> the 3 different locations/servers are like 12 phones, 15 and 17 i think
02:41 < admiralspark> ahh. And these are like, old PC's or something?
02:41 < Alternity> in house pbx, never again
02:41 < brianx> you can also run the desktop and remotely access the x programs over the network.  that puts a little less load on the server, but command line is probably still a better option most of the time.
02:41 < TheTinker86> a bit yeah
02:41 < Alternity> had to troubleshoot cisco callamanger for clients
02:41 < TheTinker86> ive been making due using putty ssh and comands
02:41 < DLSteve> man <insert command here> is your friend.
02:41 < Alternity> i have ptsd trying to troubleshoot call quality issues on callmanager
02:41 <+MillerBOSS> DrGibby| 👉 That last part is the best
02:42 < TheTinker86> but with it being an older version, googling solutions requires some creative thinking lol
02:42 < DrGibby|> MillerBOSS: the vidja?
02:42 <+MillerBOSS> Jya
02:42 < admiralspark> TheTinker86: make backups of them first, and then do it. I will say that installing the desktop environment on a server never goes as smooth as you'd expect...
02:42 < DrGibby|> yee yee
02:42 < admiralspark> I'd also just....look at migrating it ;)
02:42 < admiralspark> Freepbx is, well, free
02:42 < TheTinker86> yeah i feel ya
02:42 < mkillebrew> none of these things are things he's qualified to do
02:42 < brianx> i was thinking what mkillebrew said.
02:43 < admiralspark> mkillebrew: just because you and I have a budget, not everyone does. If they have three disparate freepbx systems they probably don't ahve shit for cash, so they can't afford a consultant
02:43 < brianx> upgrading something really really old is not as easy as a one level upgrade.
02:43 < TheTinker86> i may not have the experience, but im no dummy
02:43 < mkillebrew> having no money doesn't make it more possible
02:43 < admiralspark> I have never run into a freepbx/asterix/whatever that had anything complicated in it. ACD's, lines, trunks, whatever, easy peasy
02:43 < admiralspark> one day migrations
02:44 < admiralspark> mkillebrew: having no money means he has to figure it out on his own
02:44 < TheTinker86> ive kept the 3 systems running and fixed the issues over the last year. and while ive discussed options with the client, i dont know when they will move forward with their current plan
02:44 < mkillebrew> good luck
02:44 < admiralspark> TheTinker86: just make sure you have backups and know if you accidentally blow up the whole thing you can fix it
02:44 < TheTinker86> for sure
02:44 < brianx> drive images ideally. :-)
02:45 < admiralspark> what brianx said. Hell, make em hotswappable ;)
02:45 < TheTinker86> right now, it looks like we are moving them to comcast for internet and voip
02:45 < tsarbomba> anybody here feeling boston strong with tawmmy
02:45 < admiralspark> tsarbomba: wat?
02:45 < tsarbomba> moving anybody to comcast for internet is a mistake that will haunt you until the day you commit suicide
02:45 < admiralspark> TheTinker86: yeah, I'm a big fan of having lec's do the phones. Fuck phone systems. Used to resell, hated my life.
02:45  * tsarbomba shows the scars
02:45  * admiralspark agrees
02:46 < TheTinker86> heres the thing. i'm not staying with these guys forever
02:46 < admiralspark> but the other option is probably AT&T
02:46 < admiralspark> :P
02:46 < brianx> tsarbomba: scars are only attempted...
02:46 < TheTinker86> i know people there and took on the job to get them in a better situation so they can run on their own
02:46 < DrGibby|> AT&T and Comcast are both shit
02:46 < tsarbomba> tinker's gonna saddle his company with the worst possible service and then bounce
02:46 < tsarbomba> that's kind of ingeniusly cruel and cold-hearted
02:47 < brianx> TheTinker86: if you have any option not AT&T or Comcast, stay with it.
02:47 < tsarbomba> i should try and hire you
02:47 < TheTinker86> theres not really much in the way of options
02:47 < brianx> who are you with now?
02:47 < tsarbomba> when comcast is in the mix, there rarely is :(
02:47 < TheTinker86> for internet, we've been using telepacific (tpx i think they call themselves now)
02:48 < tsarbomba> now that's just an unfortunate choice of name
02:48 < brianx> sounds kinda like a bell operating company.
02:48 < TheTinker86> problem. the bosses dont like the amount they pay monthly and the connection is kind of slow
02:48 < tsarbomba> it sounds like an extreme toilet paper conglomerate
02:48 < tsarbomba> BUY TPX 2-PLY *random action sports montage*
02:48 < m4221> Hello fuckers
02:48 < brianx> tsarbomba: "telepathetic"?  that's what i read at first.
02:48 < tsarbomba> i like that
02:48 < TheTinker86> well for internet, thats our choice at 2 of the 3 locations
02:48 < TheTinker86> att. comcast. telepacific
02:49 < brianx> telepacific is the odds on favorite.
02:49 < admiralspark> Could always just use a Verizon mifi ;)
02:49 < tsarbomba> man the state of broadband in america is fucked hard
02:49 < TheTinker86> yeah
02:49 < TheTinker86> it is
02:49 < brianx> Verizon mifi as backup.
02:49 < tsarbomba> if you aren't in a fiber hub or a tech city you're just...stuck
02:49 < TheTinker86> especially if you're not in a major city/hbu
02:49 < TheTinker86> hub*
02:49 < admiralspark> no no, primary with only 30g of data. Live on the edge
02:49 < admiralspark> man
02:49 < mkillebrew> I keep reading your nick as TheTwinker
02:49 < admiralspark> I feel for you all in the lower 48
02:49 < brianx> lol
02:50 < tsarbomba> mkillebrew is feeling like a little hairless boy action tonight
02:50 < TheTinker86> i'll take it mkillebrew
02:50 < admiralspark> our ISP's are kinda dumb and fairly expensive but at least they're not Comcast
02:50 < TheTinker86> while i agree that comcast is full of douches
02:50 < brianx> admiralspark: canuk or alaskan?
02:50 < TheTinker86> its one of those, lesser of the evils kind of thing
02:50 < admiralspark> Alaska baby
02:50 < tsarbomba> i suspect most of america could get away with up to a 30% "at least we're not comcast" premium surcharge
02:50 < brianx> sweet
02:51 < admiralspark> All the drawbacks of the US, plus snow/cold and no amazon prime worth a damn
02:51 < admiralspark> but we got guns, don't you worry.
02:51 < TheTinker86> so right now, Comcast is our upcoming internet service as well as setting us up with VOIP
02:51 < admiralspark> and oil that nobody wants because it's shit cheap
02:51 < mkillebrew> how do you live without Prime?
02:51 < tsarbomba> alaska was delightful. i snowmobiled through de nali park. nearly got eaten by a bear when i stopped to take a piss. made it to fairbanks mostly intact. amazing scenes, amazing state. but holy shit $11/gal milk
02:51 < brianx> admiralspark: unless you're far off the coast, your weather beats minnesota hand's down.
02:51 < admiralspark> our prime is basically small stuff and 1-2 week shipping
02:52 < admiralspark> tried to order an air filter for my truck, won't ship to alaska, even with prime
02:52 < admiralspark> super lame
02:52 < mkillebrew> I wish I got PrimeNow here, used it when we were in Orlando for Disney World, was amazing
02:52 < admiralspark> brianx: agreed, I'm southcentral, it's more like nh/vt
02:52 < brianx> so what do you do?  hire a 3rd party to forward it?
02:52 < tsarbomba> yeah but they got MOOSES\
02:52 < admiralspark> nowhere near the feet of snow and humid shit y'all get
02:53 < admiralspark> tsarbomba: biiiiiiiiiiiiig mooses ;)
02:53 < TheTinker86> anyone here used freepbx before? one of the 3 servers doesnt let me on the webgui
02:53 < brianx> admiralspark: i'm near chicago, not mn.  it's snowing right now.
02:53 < tsarbomba> the mooses are why i bought the s&w 500 before i left
02:53 < admiralspark> oh, rip brianx
02:53 < tsarbomba> but the only time i even pulled it from my pack was when the piss-bear arrived
02:53 < tsarbomba> and he must have just eaten because after a short standoff from about 20 feet away he left
02:53 < admiralspark> tsarbomba: the bears are why I have a 44
02:53 < tsarbomba> i don't think he was afraid of the pistol
02:53 < brianx> mn has it worse than us.  it only sucks donkey dick here.
02:53 < admiralspark> TheTinker86: I have, I resold for a bit. Probably the web server crashed
02:54 < admiralspark> tsarbomba: its something else to walk in the woods here and *know* you're not the top of the food chain
02:54 < TheTinker86> it loads the page but i try the password i just set and it says incorrect
02:54 < tsarbomba> yeah i figured a .500 magnum would handle a bear as well as any moose, admiralspark. but it was the adventure guy i consulted with before the trip who told me to pay more attention to moose when i was considering self-defense than the bears
02:54 < tsarbomba> apparently nobody ever considers how lethal a moose can be
02:54 < admiralspark> TheTinker86: sounds like....an incorrect password
02:55 < TheTinker86> admiralspark but its really not though lol
02:55 < admiralspark> tsarbomba: the cows especially will get pissy at you if they think you're threatening their calves
02:55 < admiralspark> TheTinker86: gimme a sec
02:55 < brianx> tsarbomba: mom raises moose dogs (elghounds), i know how dangerous they are.
02:55 < tsarbomba> oh jesus i probably would have ended up pissing myself if a goddamn cow came after me
02:55 < tsarbomba> "ok i'm ready for moose. i'm ready for bears. wait. WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT HEIFER DOING"
02:55 < TheTinker86> admiralspark i did the passwd-master for the reset to force all the passwords to be set.
02:55 < admiralspark> TheTinker86: https://www.freepbxhosting.com/blog/reset-freepbx-password/
02:55 < brianx> lol tsarbomba
02:55 < admiralspark> amportal is what you want
02:56 < brianx> tsarbomba: someone was cow tipping again last night.
02:56 < admiralspark> tsarbomba: cow moose, haha
02:56 < admiralspark> not a bovine
02:56 < tsarbomba> yah i was joking
02:56 < admiralspark> ;)
02:56 < tsarbomba> i definitely did not plan on fucking around if a moose cam sniffing
02:56 < tsarbomba> regardless of sex
02:56 < admiralspark> TheTinker86: try the link I sent
02:56 < tsarbomba> the landscape was incredible though. i'm glad i did the snowmobile trip while still physically capable
02:56 < admiralspark> tsarbomba: it's a cool place though. Usually don't have to worry, just need to be mindful
02:57 < tsarbomba> one of those bucket list things
02:57 < admiralspark> mmhmm
02:57 < tsarbomba> i can't take seriously anyone who goes on an alaska cruise now
02:57 < TheTinker86> admiralspark checking the link now
02:57 < tsarbomba> it's like "oh you saw a glacier from 300 yards away standing on a ship? how precious"
02:57 < admiralspark> tsarbomba: I feel that way about all the cruises, you miss a whole lot
02:58 < admiralspark> tbf when the glacier lets go, you don't want to be within 300yds of the crashing ice
02:58 < admiralspark> but
02:58 < admiralspark> yeah
02:58 < brianx> i'd love to drive up to alaska for a bit, but i hear it's too dangerous driving though canada.
02:58 < admiralspark> observing is dumb. Experiencing is better
02:58 < admiralspark> hah
02:58 < tsarbomba> i kinda get the caribbean cruises. you've seen one tiny colonized island you've seen most of them\
02:58 < admiralspark> brianx: it's totally fine, done it multiple times
02:58 < admiralspark> kinda long
02:58 < tsarbomba> but confining one's self to a cruise ship in alaska is just...counterproductive
02:58 < admiralspark> yep
02:58 < admiralspark> plus, the fishing is awesome
02:58 < brianx> admiralspark: no mad canuks got you?
02:58 < tsarbomba> oh hell yes it was
02:59 < tsarbomba> i stopped lots of times
02:59 < tsarbomba> didn't have the best luck but i suck at fly fishing
02:59 < admiralspark> hahaha, no. brianx canadians in the west are a friendly bunch
02:59 < admiralspark> they're not quebec
02:59 < tsarbomba> may have been too much snowpack
02:59 < admiralspark> hahaha
02:59 < brianx> oh quebec...
02:59 < admiralspark> if you ever come up in summer, ping me here or reddit, we'll do some good fishing
02:59 < tsarbomba> quebec: all the wintry cold of canada plus french attitude
02:59 < brianx> (if there are any canadians here, i'm just kidding around)
03:00 < admiralspark> hon hon hon
03:00 < brianx> would love to admiralspark, but not really likely soon.  too much shit to do.
03:00 < admiralspark> I hear ya on that
03:00 < admiralspark> reminds me
03:00 < admiralspark> it's 5pm, drinking time
03:01 < TheTinker86> admiralspark no session id since it can't login. cant use amportal to force the session passed
03:01  * brianx ran out of beer.
03:01 < admiralspark> hmmmmmm
03:01 < TheTinker86> ikr?
03:01 < admiralspark> TheTinker86: this sounds bad but....reboot after hours
03:01 < tsarbomba> reboot in the middle of the day YOLO
03:02 < admiralspark> and get a config backup in case you need to rebuild
03:02 < TheTinker86> check it. just restarted the amportal software
03:02 < admiralspark> tsarbomba: save the company on phone plan minutes! Can't charge us if phones don't work!
03:02 < TheTinker86> couldnt change ownership of http files
03:02 < admiralspark> oh
03:02 < TheTinker86> www/html
03:02 < brianx> TheTinker86: depending on which web server it's under, reloading the config might be needed for it to see the password change.
03:02 < tsarbomba> admiralspark++
03:02 < tsarbomba> just permissions then? should be easy enough to rig manually no?
03:02 < admiralspark> TheTinker86: I g2g but...backups backups backups :) if you're around tomorrow, ping me
03:02 < TheTinker86> googling now lol
03:03 < tsarbomba> mind you i'm familiar with httpd but not amportal
03:03 < brianx> yeah, my thought is that security is under the httpd, if it's under the app, not related.
03:04 < DrGibby|> security is multi-layer
03:04 < TheTinker86> its 3 files in the /var/www/html directory
03:04 < brianx> is one of them an .htaccess?
03:06 < TheTinker86> nope
03:07 < TheTinker86> index .html and .php
03:07 < brianx> then more likely application security rather than server security.
03:08 < tsarbomba> so could you just swing a chown of the files?
03:08 < tsarbomba> or push comes to shove log in under the correct account and just cat the existing files into new text files
03:08 < tsarbomba> then su, nuke the bad ones, rename the good ones, voila
03:09 < brianx> before doing anything like that, backups!
03:09 < tsarbomba> well that's pretty basic *nix acl stuff
03:10 < tsarbomba> i suspect the existing default pages need to be under a certain account that the application uses and changing accounts or even passwords could have broken it
03:10 < tsarbomba> but these are just very basic text files it sounds like
03:11 < TheTinker86> only have root user. the system is just a server. i'll try chown
03:11 < tsarbomba> that's weird. definitely try to chown the files to the account the httpd or app uses
03:12 < TheTinker86> chmod: cannot operate on dangling symlink
03:12 < tsarbomba> doesn't that mean the link got delinked?
03:13 < tsarbomba> maybe just recreate softlinks to the physical locations of those files
03:13 < mkillebrew> web content really shouldn't be owned by the httpd
03:13 < tsarbomba> yeah it shouldn't have to be but i have no knowledge of this amportal environment
03:13 < mkillebrew> no, I mean it just shouldn't be
03:13 < tsarbomba> really where i'm trying to get him is to have the web content owned by a standard user with a working password
03:13 < brianx> and web servers shouldn't follow symlinks.
03:13 < mkillebrew> webserver being able to modify things it serves is insecure
03:13 < tsarbomba> ownership != acl
03:14 < mkillebrew> like anyone uses fs attributes, acls, or does anything with selinux other than disabling it
03:14 < mkillebrew> especially some retard that can't even get the dist the same on the pbx systems
03:14 < tsarbomba> okay so you have no interest in being helpful
03:14 < tsarbomba> enjoy
03:15 < mkillebrew> because you disagree with file ownership doesn't mean I'm not helpful, it means you disagree
03:15 < TheTinker86> the amportal software has a web module
03:16 < TheTinker86> the webmodule isnt working. im not sure why. when i did a reset to the amportal software, 3 files didn't allow for chown to work
03:17 < tsarbomba> and those were symlinks that are now reporting as dangling
03:18 < tsarbomba> you checked the physical root to make sure the files are there, right?
03:18 < DLSteve> just 777 the whole dir and call it a day!
03:18 < tsarbomba> heh
03:18 < tsarbomba> chmod 777 errything ride or die
03:19 < DLSteve> Actually had someone do that to the root path. Fortunately doing that will brick Linux.
03:19 < rootsudo> Fuck
03:19 < rootsudo> I've lost count of the number of Interviews I've taken seriously vs ones I did for the fuck of it and now I'm worried
03:19 < DLSteve> lol
03:20 < TheTinker86> i was able to backdoor the webgui
03:20 < DLSteve> How many job offers have you gotten from the unserious ones?
03:21 < rootsudo> DLSteve i haven't counted
03:21 < rootsudo> But I fucked around and I got MSFT tomorrow again... :\
03:21  * rootsudo sobs
03:21 < DrGibby|> thats what ou get
03:21 < DrGibby|> err
03:21 < DrGibby|> thats what you get
03:23 <+MillerBOSS> Aww
03:23 <+MillerBOSS> rootsudo 👉 Come on. You can take it
03:23 < rootsudo> MillerBOSS how you been man
03:23 <+MillerBOSS> Wonderful!
03:24 <+MillerBOSS> DrGibby| and I had sex last night. So, I got that.
03:24 < DrGibby|> uhh
03:24 <+MillerBOSS> You were sleeping
03:24 < DrGibby|> uhhhhhh
03:24 < tsarbomba> millerboss isn't afraid to admit that he bores his loverrrs to sleep
03:25 <+MillerBOSS> Totally
03:25 <+MillerBOSS> But DrGibby|  and I are not lovers
03:25 < tsarbomba> apparently not!\
03:25 < tsarbomba> you need practice practice practice
03:25 <+MillerBOSS> Tell that to DrGibby|
03:25 <+MillerBOSS> rootsudo 👉 Still in Cebu?
03:25 < tsarbomba> you're the one who bored him to sleep!@
03:25 < DrGibby|> pls halp
03:25 <+MillerBOSS> Too late
03:26 < tsarbomba> this is all going to show up on twitter under the #metoo hashtag :(
03:27 < DrGibby|> I NEED AN ADULT
03:27 <+MillerBOSS> You are late. It already has https://twitter.com/realMillerBOSS/status/982067236293824517
03:28 <+MillerBOSS> How the fuck did that emoji get there
03:28 <+MillerBOSS> https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-04-05-20-28-12-as.png
03:28 <+MillerBOSS> Clearly not there, there
03:29 <+MillerBOSS> Awesome extension https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/linkclump/lfpjkncokllnfokkgpkobnkbkmelfefj
03:29 < DrGibby|> what emoji are you talking about?
03:31 <+MillerBOSS> https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-04-05-20-30-54-1H.png
03:31 <+MillerBOSS> https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-04-05-20-31-18-Fc.png
03:31 < rootsudo> https://www.thecrankymonkey.com/2009/11/how-working-for-microsoft-as-v-or-is.html
03:31 < DrGibby|> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Be7abh6y/youracuntharry.PNG
03:33 < tsarbomba> #metoo is one of those hashtags that twitter just gives an emoji any time it's used
03:33 < E-werd> kid lights lamp.  #lamplight
03:33 < tsarbomba> i suppose the api drgibby uses in his irc client doesn't pass that data
03:33 <+MillerBOSS> Lame.
03:33 < enix> mornin'
03:33 <+MillerBOSS> Well neither does Tweetbot
03:33 <+MillerBOSS> Twitter's website sucks
03:33 <+MillerBOSS> enix we have been waiting for you
03:34 < E-werd> https://twitter.com/BroadStHockey/status/982065533594959872
03:34 < E-werd> lol, Claude Gir-poo
03:34 < E-werd> scores a huge goal from the fucking slot
03:34 < E-werd> HUGE GOAL, BIGGEST PHILLY GOAL OF THE YEAR
03:34 < E-werd> from the fucking slot, as it if was particularly hard
03:35  * m4221 tases E-werd 
03:35 < m4221> McDonaldsWiFi: hey
03:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> hi
03:36 < tsarbomba> they're flyers fans. the flyers have been a talent wasteland since lindros got too old to play. let them have their goal
03:36 < E-werd> tase my ballsack you fucking sally
03:36 < E-werd> give your balls a tug, check make sure they're still there right quick
03:36 < E-werd> tsarbomba++
03:37 < E-werd> full disclosure, I'm a Pens fan
03:37 < tsarbomba> i'm an isles fan. fuck the flyers.
03:38 < E-werd> #3elieve
03:38 < E-werd> if it can't be the pens, then I want VGK to win it
03:41 < tsarbomba> as a pens fan you will probably enjoy this as much as i do: https://i.imgur.com/eImu4Nf.jpg
03:42 < tsarbomba> it inspired me to make this a few years later during a round of photoshop shit-talk. unfortunately the hated crapitals won the series in the end... https://i.imgur.com/iXBWayu.jpg
03:43 < tsarbomba> when the entire mausoleum started chanting "CAN YOU HEAR US?" in unison at ovechkin a single tear rolled down my cheek. it was a special moment
03:50 < Casteil> https://i.imgur.com/YnHHDzS.png hmm.. trying to get an idea of how this diagonal tile might look for a low kitchen backsplash... any thoughts?
03:51 < tsarbomba> it's bold
03:51 <+MillerBOSS> Great but you are missing, beer signs, neon lights, TVs, speakers, nude calendars, etc
03:51 < tsarbomba> just shades of grey?
03:51 < tsarbomba> i'd almost like it in a dark dominant color with lighter stripes
03:51 < Casteil> https://www.lowes.com/pd/GBI-Tile-Stone-Inc-Santa-Monica-Gray-Chevron-Mosaic-Marble-Wall-Tile-Common-12-in-x-12-in-Actual-11-3-in-x-12-05-in/1000397665 < it's this tile
03:52 < tsarbomba> it's not terrible and i dig the general aesthetic but like if you could get the negative :D
03:52 < Casteil> https://i.imgur.com/GA3DxuG.png < This is the other one I was thinking about
03:53 < tsarbomba> i guess my only other issue is the way that the end of it is going to come to a cutoff
03:53 < Casteil> just two of those rows or about 4"
03:53 < tsarbomba> there's no way to make it fancy and follow the angle ethos because your backsplash ends before the wall
03:53 < tsarbomba> i like that it's not ho-hum though
03:53 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.google.com/search?q=mosaic+backsplash+kitchen&tbm=isch&tbo=
03:54 < Casteil> not doing the full wall.. too expensive and I don't know how long I'll keep whatever I have because those cabinets/ctops are on the "to go" list at some point
03:55 < Casteil> this is all just a "cheap fix" to get rid of the pink hell it used to be: https://i.imgur.com/0yt7fnb.png
03:55 < tsarbomba> showtime hyping lara vs hurd like it's young tyson vs. the ghost of ali
03:55 <+MillerBOSS> Aww that was totally a bachelor pad. Not any more. :(
03:56 <+MillerBOSS> I assume you replaced the whole counter top and not just the outside of it what ever it is called
03:56 < tsarbomba> no, i'd say "pink hell" covers it
03:56 <+MillerBOSS> lol
03:57 < tsarbomba> also i think he's married
03:58 < Casteil> me?
03:58 < Casteil> MillerBOSS: I tore off the thin pink laminate material and put down the black laminate
03:59 <+MillerBOSS> Nice job eh
03:59 < Casteil> I can't complain too much considering I've spent like $200 total
03:59 <+MillerBOSS> Also https://i.imgur.com/GA3DxuG.png looks real good
03:59  * CheckYourSix would rock the pink kitchen because he's a cheap bastard...
03:59 < Casteil> MillerBOSS: that's definitely the more "contemporary" option
04:00 < Casteil> CheckYourSix: haha, thing is I haven't spent much on it (relatively speaking)
04:00 <+CheckYourSix> I'd be aiming to spend $0 until it was time for complete overhaul
04:00 < Casteil> fuck that lol
04:00 <+CheckYourSix> MillerBOSS: That does look like a nice color backsplash
04:00 < m4221> Hello, Welcome to Panera
04:01 <+MillerBOSS> This isn't Panera. I am at Qdoba, dude
04:01 < Casteil> I'm going to be needing a new roof & HVAC soon... chances are a "full kitchen overhaul" isn't going to be in my budget for 2+ years. I'm not living with pink hell for 2+ years :P
04:01 <+MillerBOSS> Yup, CheckYourSix
04:01 < m4221> MillerBOSS: Would you like the customer data special?
04:01 <+MillerBOSS> Yes
04:02 < Casteil> I'm thinking I'm probably going to end up going with what MillerBOSS linked last; the subway type ... it's less 'radical' and less likely to end in me hating it
04:03 <+CheckYourSix> Casteil: Lol
04:03 < Casteil> both end up being about $80 in tile
04:03 <+MillerBOSS> Well it matches well with the stainless steal/silver items there
04:03 < Casteil> (marble tile isn't cheap)
04:04 < CharlesA> Anyone have a goto for odd sized patch cables?
04:04 < Casteil> if I wanted to 'settle' for a simple glazed white ceramic tile it'd be like $15 in tile hehe
04:04 <+MillerBOSS> .seen rkeene
04:04 <+layer-eight> rkeene was last seen Parting from #reddit-sysadmin 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours 23 minutes 56 seconds ago.
04:04 < Casteil> CharlesA: Odd?
04:04 <+MillerBOSS> What is an odd size CharlesA ?
04:04 <+MillerBOSS> Make one?
04:04 < Casteil> Monoprice has pretty good 6, 12, 18, 2ft, 3ft, etc ones
04:04 < CharlesA> looking to grab some 35 foot ones, but the premade ones are either 25 or 50 o.O
04:04 < CharlesA> made two already, but.. geezus
04:05 < CharlesA> and of course we need this stuff by tomorrow because we're moving offices.
04:05 < CharlesA> \o/
04:06 <+MillerBOSS> CharlesA 👉  I like Cable Matters on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=Cable+Matters
04:06 <+MillerBOSS> Also https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000V0IE6G/
04:06 < CharlesA> MillerBOSS, Thanks! I usually use monoprice for my personal stuff, but they were trying to find some place local, which didn't work.
04:07 <+MillerBOSS> You bet eh
04:07 < CharlesA> because by the way, we are moving over the weekend.
04:07 < CharlesA> That was yesterday... bleh
04:07 <+MillerBOSS> Well if you are in a big city you may get same day shipping, right?
04:08 < m4221> MillerBOSS: Would you like the customer data on punchcards? :P
04:08 < CharlesA> Tried it. Missed the cut off for Monoprice by about an hour.
04:08 < CharlesA> D'oh
04:08 <+MillerBOSS> I mean Amazon
04:08 < CharlesA> maybe.
04:08 < CharlesA> hmm
04:08 <+MillerBOSS> Yes, with chads, m4221
04:08 < mal_will> Hypothetical: if you were hiring for a position that needed to manage all mobile devices and voip phones-from purchasing to configuring call flows. and they also answered help desk calls. What would oyu call that position?
04:09 < mal_will> it does require basic mdm tweaking as well
04:09 < CharlesA> MillerBOSS, Hanging chads, you mean, right?
04:09  * CharlesA hides
04:09 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah CharlesA
04:09 < m4221> Bush/Gore 2000!
04:09 <+MillerBOSS> ;)
04:09 <+MillerBOSS> lol
04:10 < CharlesA> holy crap. Was it that long ago?
04:10 <+MillerBOSS> Crazy huh
04:10 <+MillerBOSS> Time flies
04:10 < m4221> CharlesA: strategery!
04:10 < CharlesA> Wow.
04:10 < mal_will> at the time, that was embarrassing as a country
04:10 < CharlesA> god yes
04:10 < CharlesA> but look at us now!
04:10 < CharlesA> :p
04:11 < mal_will> I think Support Analyst Two might make sense.
04:14 < mal_will> so Ballot stuffing
04:14 < mal_will> Not a lot of people give a shit about ballot stuffing
04:14 < DrGibby|> HI DOES ANYONE ELSE NEED MSSP STUFF BECAUSE I'M GAME TO HELP ANYONE HERE
04:15 < mal_will> I need job title help DrGibby|
04:15 < DrGibby|> mal_will: Director of Awesomeness
04:15 < CharlesA> Network Monkey?
04:15 < CharlesA> :p
04:15 < mal_will> But like, the last time you voted in person, for me at least, it was one little old lady
04:15 < mal_will> just smiling and giving people stickers
04:16 < DrGibby|> which is wholesome and awesome :)
04:16 < mal_will> but not impervious
04:16  * DrGibby| sticks a cool sticker on mal_will 
04:16 < mal_will> I don't have to like this
04:17 < DrGibby|> you deserve to have a cool sticker!
04:17 < mal_will> Elections as a whole are just kind of shams tbh
04:17 < mal_will> how are you in such a good mood DrGibby|
04:17 < DrGibby|> mal_will: because I have beer :)
04:17 < mal_will> I would like some beer.
04:17  * DrGibby| gibs beer
04:18 < tsarbomba> isles beat hated rangers
04:18 < tsarbomba> all is good in the universe
04:19 < mal_will> thx gib
04:20 < Jekotia> Whoever thought power-only USB cables, with no indication that they're power-only, is an asshole
04:20 < mal_will> ah man, this one youtuber's hamster died and. I'm ashamed about it, but it's really hitting me hard right now
04:20 < Jekotia> Took me thirty fucking minutes to remember I have one of those, and that there's nothing wrong with my phone
04:21 < Casteil> Jekotia: agreed
04:21 < mal_will> i don't think I've ever come across that Jekotia. That'd do my head in
04:21 < Jekotia> mal_will: One thing I own came with one. Not sure what.
04:21 < m4221> DrGibby|: Panera needs you
04:21 < DrGibby|> np
04:22 < DrGibby|> m4221: panera needs more help than we can offer
04:22 < DrGibby|> they dug their hole
04:22 < mal_will> rip open the outer sheath and then braid the inner cbles into a friendship bracelet. give it to the secretary at work
04:22 < mal_will> prob solved Jekotia
04:22 < Jekotia> Not at all, that would send the secretary mixed messages
04:22 < Jekotia> I hate everyone equally.
04:23 <+MillerBOSS> I wish I knew what the fuck I am doing to make this larger https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-04-05-21-22-51-3B.png
04:23 < m4221> MillerBOSS: Extenze
04:23 <+CheckYourSix> Jekotia: ++++
04:24 < Jekotia> MillerBOSS: You mean to say that it's increasing, which is good, but you have no idea what's working and thus you should do more of?
04:24 <+MillerBOSS> Well this is the last 365 days https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-04-05-21-24-27-bl.png
04:25 <+MillerBOSS> But I am not exactly creating the content and its of 1 video from a movie
04:25 <+MillerBOSS> And I did nothing but post the video
04:25 <+MillerBOSS> I think I capped it too
04:26 < sideup66> Ugh
04:26 < sideup66> Stupid botnet stop trying to jack someone's login
04:26 <+MillerBOSS> But the content police has not identified it or maybe because the movie in general was not popular but I loved it
04:26 <+MillerBOSS> Daddy would you like some sausages
04:26 < sideup66> MillerBOSS: sup
04:26  * MillerBOSS looks up
04:27  * DrGibby| also looks up
04:27 < DrGibby|> its white
04:27 <+MillerBOSS> Lies
04:27 <+MillerBOSS> Thats raciest
04:27 <+MillerBOSS> And racist
04:27 < DrGibby|> raciest
04:27 < DrGibby|> raciest
04:27 <+MillerBOSS> Fucking the raciest ever
04:28 < Jekotia> MillerBOSS: He's fucking the raciest person ever?
04:28 < DrGibby|> fucking raciest
04:28 <+MillerBOSS> Lol the raciest ever
04:28 < sideup66> Das racist
04:28 <+MillerBOSS> Like that person getting fucked is THE raciest ever
04:28 < sideup66> MillerBOSS: isn't racy also sexu
04:29 <+MillerBOSS> Sure
04:29 < sideup66> Sexy?
04:29 < DrGibby|> stupid sexy flanders
04:29 < sideup66> Like another term for it
04:29 < sideup66> Lol
04:29 < Jekotia> Needs a new office chair for home, has little to budget and needs new tires :<
04:29 <+MillerBOSS> .yt 39YUXIKrOFk
04:29 <+layer-eight> YouTube Right Said Fred - I`m Too Sexy (The Original) - https://youtu.be/39YUXIKrOFk
04:29 < sideup66> Oh yeah, I have remote on my car again
04:29 < sideup66> So I might mess with people at work, randomly make it do stuff lol
04:30 < sideup66> Hyundai gonna be like sir, please stop lol
04:30 < Jekotia> Oh god, if you REALLY want to troll
04:30 < Jekotia> Speaker in your trunk, pre recorded with "Hello? is someone there? Please help me!"
04:31 < Jekotia> *hidden, so that you can show them there's no-one and nothing there
04:32 <+MillerBOSS> And some time ago YouTube said fuck off with monetization without proving yourself. https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-04-05-21-30-58-tQ.png This account is never gonna get that. So do I risk some new shady shit on old or account or not
04:32 < Jekotia> Oh, and the best part of that power-only USB cable? The quality is GARBAGE, apparently
04:32 < Jekotia> I have NEVER seen a "charging slowly" warning on an Android phone, before I used this cable
04:32 < sideup66> Jekotia: then I find my trunk opened by a crowbar lol
04:32 < sideup66> Stick a blowup doll
04:33 < Jekotia> It won't be very blown-up if you stick it with the pointy end of something
04:39 <@Nostalg14c> Morning.. ish
04:40 <+NinjaStyle> anyone in Houston
04:40 < DrGibby|> no
04:40 < DrGibby|> they're all dead
04:40 < mkillebrew> There are quite a lot of people in Houston
04:40 < DrGibby|> no there isn't
04:40 < DrGibby|> they're all dead
04:41 < mkillebrew> Were that true, there would still be people in Houston
04:41 < DrGibby|> (hopefully)
04:43 <+MillerBOSS> Do you want to see drunk MillerBOSS 8 years ago?
04:44 < mkillebrew> no
04:45 < Jekotia> MillerBOSS: Depends on if "MillerBOSS 8 years ago" has a nice rack
04:45 < tsarbomba> we've seen drunk millerboss in realtime for like a month now
04:45 <+MillerBOSS> Well I am still a guy, soo
04:45 < DrGibby|> MillerBOSS: I do!
04:46 < tsarbomba> does millerboss 8 years ago have better 8 tracks of dad rock?
04:46 < Jekotia> MillerBOSS: I am disappointed. What IRC are you in? Surely you can figure out what I'm referring to.
04:46 < nohusuro> Nostalg14c: do you seriously only get to work around this time?
04:46 < nohusuro> you so slack man
04:46 < tsarbomba> he lives in .au
04:46 <+MillerBOSS> I am trying to find a way to download a private youtube video
04:47 < nohusuro> yeah, me too tsarbomba
04:47 < nohusuro> which is why I'm calling his ass lazy
04:47 < nohusuro> xD
04:47 < tsarbomba> oh well if he rolls in late and gets away with it then more power to him
04:47 < tsarbomba> i roll in early as fuck and all it lets me do is get away with going home early sometimes
04:47 < Jekotia> MillerBOSS: Private meaning un-listed, or requiring login?
04:47 < AustinS> MillerBOSS, youtube-dl has auth parameters if referring to one you can see when logged in
04:48 < tsarbomba> millerboss aren't you supposed to be doing the needful with the youtube script
04:48  * tsarbomba prepares the GIANT METAL FINGER OF PROCRASTINATION
04:49 <+MillerBOSS> Thank you ADHD
04:49 < Jekotia> MillerBOSS: If it's unlisted, change the "youtube.com" part of the URL to "youpak.com"
04:49 <+MillerBOSS> Private meaning requesting login and youtube-dl would do it but I use a YubiKey with account
04:49 < tsarbomba> https://i.imgur.com/kB2PW5W.gif
04:50 < mkillebrew> mmm yubikey
04:50 < Jekotia> tsarbomba: When you practice a trustfall with the floor
04:50 <+MillerBOSS> Oh duh there is a download mp4 button
04:50 < tsarbomba> i was kinda hoping to see some insane spring back to her feet using just the muscles of her neck
04:50 < tsarbomba> but she just kinda flops
04:51 <+MillerBOSS> You are gonna need to CTRL + that https://supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.millerboss.com/Be-Rad-and-Naughty-Monkey-HJ.mp4 This is when I had fun being drunk with friends.
04:51 <+MillerBOSS> DrGibby| 👉 ^
04:51 < AustinS> MillerBOSS, what about setting up an "App Password" on your google account and using that?
04:51 < AustinS> Not sure if it works for YouTube, but it may.
04:52 <+MillerBOSS> I found the download link. ;)
04:52 <+MillerBOSS> Camera was drunk too
04:52 < DrGibby|> MillerBOSS: this is you?
04:52 <+MillerBOSS> s/Camera/ Camera man
04:52 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS meant: " Camera man was drunk too"
04:52 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah
04:52 <+MillerBOSS> I was lit
04:52 < tsarbomba> hey remember i found that authentic male program thing the other day
04:52 < tsarbomba> i believe someone leaked video of their PUA program "step 1"
04:52 < tsarbomba> https://i.imgur.com/kB2PW5W.gif
04:52 < DrGibby|> you're the singer?
04:53 < tsarbomba> wrong link
04:53 < tsarbomba> https://imgur.com/gallery/Kki2W
04:53 <+MillerBOSS> The drunk guy with the tambourine
04:53 < tsarbomba> you allow your camera men to carry tambourines?
04:54 < DrGibby|> oh the striped shirt douchebag
04:54 <+MillerBOSS> ha ha
04:55 < tsarbomba> i read that mask as "unaffiliated rapper"
04:55 < Jekotia> It takes a special kind of stupid to think stabbing one marine in a group of 4 is a good idea
04:55 < tsarbomba> s/in a group of 4/, ever, ever, ever,
04:55 <+layer-eight> Jekotia meant: "It takes a special kind of stupid to think stabbing one marine , ever, ever, ever, is a good idea"
04:56 < tsarbomba> if you've gotten within melee distance of a marine you've already lost the war
04:56 < Jekotia> tsarbomba: If they don't know a fight is coming and you stab them in the back, you'll likely walk away just fine
04:56 < tsarbomba> lol marine not being observationally aware
04:56 < Jekotia> When his buddies see you do that though, you're fucked
04:57 < tsarbomba> yeah you add multiple marines into any conflict and shit just gets more and more drastically pear-shaped for you
04:57 < Jekotia> tsarbomba: Did you read the article? He stabbed a marine in the back before things escalated
04:57 < tsarbomba> didn['t see any link, must have lost it in scroll
04:57 < Jekotia> YOU POSTED IT
04:57 < tsarbomba> oh goddamnit this client is doing the mystery thing
04:57 < tsarbomba> i posted an article about a marine being stabbed?
04:57 < tsarbomba> your drugs might be better than mine. give 'em here.
04:58 < Jekotia> i'M CONFUSED NWI am so confused
04:58 < Jekotia> HOW DID I GET TO THIS
04:58 < matty_r> G'day all
04:58 < tsarbomba> i don't know, but whatever you took made you think two gifs were an article about a marine getting stabbed and 4 other marines just dogwhipping him
04:58 < Jekotia> tsarbomba: I swear I clicked something in here, and now I can't find it
04:58 < Jekotia> GOD DAMMIT BRAIN
04:58 < tsarbomba> s/him/the attacker
04:58 <+layer-eight> tsarbomba meant: "i don't know, but whatever you took made you think two gifs were an article about a marine getting stabbed and 4 other marines just dogwhipping the attacker"
04:59 < Jekotia> It forgot the part where it moused over someones link in the comments
04:59 < matty_r> What would you guys use to create an easy to use reporting tool, which was previously just done in excel spreadsheets
04:59 < tsarbomba> reporting what
04:59 < Jekotia> tsarbomba: https://imgur.com/gallery/Kki2W
04:59 < matty_r> I want to be able to report on monthly datastore usage
04:59 < tsarbomba> that's the "hunterkll nearly roofied me" girl
05:00 < tsarbomba> not a marine article
05:00 < tsarbomba> hunterkll was army, not marines
05:00 < Jekotia> Oh FFS imgur
05:00 < tsarbomba> THIS IS ALL VERY BIZARRE
05:00 < matty_r> Basically, Datastore Name, Domain, Provisioned Storage, Usage Storage, Capacity
05:00 < Jekotia> https://imgur.com/gallery/Kki2W/comment/1320393813
05:00 < matty_r> Used Storage*
05:01 < Jekotia> tsarbomba: Fuck it. I'M GOING TO SLEEP BEFORE I MAKE A LARGER IDIOT OF MYSELF
05:01 < Jekotia> GOOD NIGHT
05:01 < tsarbomba> BAHAHAHA "slipped and fell off the curb" and ran into about 25 marine fists on the way down
05:01 < tsarbomba> fuuuuck
05:01 < matty_r> Datastore should be filtered by which Domain is chosen, Used Storage should be calculated from Capacity - Freespace
05:02 < tsarbomba> matty_r that almost sounds like something you'd need to pipe through vcli to make quick and dirty csvs and then use something that can parse it (not saying i know what to use)
05:02 < tsarbomba> we do something similar via powershell and simple email trickeration to report high level shit on production servers each morning
05:02 <+NinjaStyle> so no one in Houston?
05:02 <+NinjaStyle> I'm flying there now
05:03 < tsarbomba> but it sounds like you want your output to be more customizable and archived via database so you'd have to go even deeper than the 50-liners i set up
05:03 < tsarbomba> ninjastyle: business, personal, or punishment
05:03 < matty_r> Well, i'm getting those stats already emailed to be from my powershell scripts
05:03 <+NinjaStyle> all 3
05:03 <+NinjaStyle> tsarbomba: interview
05:03 < tsarbomba> +++
05:03 < tsarbomba> oh good deal, good luck
05:03 < matty_r> and i'm sick of inputting them into an excel spreadsheet, then having to then also create a table, and then copy that table into a word doc
05:04 < tsarbomba> you seem to be all over the southwest in pursuit of work lately NS
05:04 < tsarbomba> are you looking to cash in bigly
05:04 <+NinjaStyle> I'm trying
05:04 < matty_r> I'm happy to type in the numbers, I just want to process to be smoother
05:04 < matty_r> Using MS Access seems like a good way to do it, but the forms aren't exactly dynamic
05:05 <+NinjaStyle> dude next to me put his bag on the middle seat
05:05 < tsarbomba> i haven't run into a business case to keep that data beyond how the emails are archived, otherwise i'd have spent more than 3 minutes making the tables do more than green, yellow or red TD backgrounds based on thresholds
05:05 <+NinjaStyle> super strategy
05:05 < tsarbomba> but i can imagine any number of environments where someone wants to archive that shit. frankly i'd leave that up to the devs and i'll just make what they come up with work in our environment
05:06 < tsarbomba> but with the advent of devoops and the line-blurring and all i should probably figure out how to do it myself :/
05:06 < matty_r> hug you around?
05:06 < hug> no
05:06 < matty_r> damn
05:06 < tsarbomba> trickeration
05:06 < tsarbomba> don't let him fool you
05:06 < matty_r> any ideas?
05:06 < matty_r> hug ^
05:07 < hug> wat
05:07 < hug> What are you trying to do?
05:07 < matty_r> Reporting on datastore usage, which is currently tracked using excel spreadsheets
05:08 < hug> Dump it into mssql express instead
05:08 < hug> And pull it via odbc into whatever report you want.
05:08 < matty_r> THe backend is the easy part. I could just do an MS Access DB
05:09 < matty_r> Frontend is a little harder
05:09 < hug> Why? There are tools for this. :p
05:09 < hug> PowerBI if you want to be microsofty.
05:09 < catbeard> tf, use eloquent
05:09 < catbeard> much faster :)
05:10 < matty_r> hug: PowerBI?
05:10 < catbeard> mssql drivers for it
05:10 < hug> matty_r: Yes?
05:10 < DrGibby|> mssql has drivers now?
05:11 < catbeard> for eloquent
05:11 < catbeard> extension of doctrine
05:11 < matty_r> Is it just the front end for it?
05:11 < matty_r> PowerBi
05:11 < matty_r> BI
05:11 < catbeard> https://github.com/zoilomora/laravel-msaccess
05:12 < matty_r> I want something not just generating reports, but also the input of the data
05:12 < matty_r> might be too much to ask I think
05:12 < suttin> certs make me feel dumb
05:12 < DrGibby|> bc u r dum suttin
05:13 < suttin> s/certs make me feel/i am
05:13 <+layer-eight> suttin meant: "i am dumb"
05:13 < suttin> :)
05:13 < catbeard> s/dumb/groot
05:13 <+layer-eight> suttin meant: "i am groot"
05:13 < suttin> s/groot/root
05:13 <+layer-eight> suttin meant: "i am root"
05:14 < DrGibby|> s/root/sud
05:14 <+layer-eight> suttin meant: "i am sud"
05:14 < DrGibby|> +o
05:14 < DrGibby|> fuck me :/
05:14 < catbeard> lol
05:14 <+NinjaStyle> s/i am/sudo
05:14 <+layer-eight> suttin meant: "sudo sud"
05:14 < suttin> oh god
05:14 < DrGibby|> lol
05:15 < matty_r> s/god/sud
05:15 <+layer-eight> suttin meant: "oh sud"
05:16 < suttin> s/s\/god\/sudo/s\/sud\/wat
05:16 < catbeard> ..
05:16 < suttin> lol
05:16 < DrGibby|>  I just about ate a shoestring.
05:16 < suttin> why
05:16 < DrGibby|> it looked like food
05:18 < czarbomba> a ghost somehow flipped my wifi hardware switch on this laptop
05:18 <+NinjaStyle> lol
05:19 < czarbomba> HEINTED
05:19 < DrGibby|> why else would I eat it?
05:19 < czarbomba> tide pods again?
05:19 <+NinjaStyle> a ghost named czarbomba
05:19 < tsarbomba> hey have you guys seen the new childproof tide pods containers
05:19 < tsarbomba> because teenagers were eating them ONLY BECAUSE THE CONTAINER IS TOO EASY TO OPEN
05:20 < Virtual-Potato-2> tsarbomba, pic please
05:20 <+NinjaStyle> I eat stuff that is easy to open
05:20 < tsarbomba> also, millennials are living at home until age 32 because they're making a political statement
05:20 < DrGibby|> tsarbomba: how long did it take you to open the new ones then?
05:20 < tsarbomba> i bought a pack two weeks ago. i still can't get it open. my boxers are stinky. :(
05:21 < Virtual-Potato> wait, you wash your boxers?
05:21 < DrGibby|> tsarbomba confirmed a 12 year old
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05:21 < suttin> tsarbomba: is it the stupid twist guy
05:21 < tsarbomba> jesus h christ google
05:21 < DrGibby|> ...
05:21 < suttin> also lol nice
05:21 < Virtual-Potato> thats not google
05:21 <+NinjaStyle> steeeeeeep
05:21 < Virtual-Potato> thats base64 encoded img data
05:21 < odify_> or a private key
05:22 < DrGibby|> lurn2link tsarbomba
05:22 <+NinjaStyle> base64 is the best 64
05:22 <+MillerBOSS> Google's new image page seriously sucks
05:22 < DrGibby|> you fucking flooder
05:22 < tsarbomba> that's what google images served up as the image link
05:22 < Virtual-Potato> odify_, it literally says so
05:22 < Virtual-Potato> data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j/4AAQ
05:22 < odify_> it scrolled too fast
05:22 < odify_> i assumed the worst
05:22 < Virtual-Potato> get a bigger monitor ffs
05:22 < suttin> !nominate tsarbomba knows how to paste links
05:22 <+MillerBOSS> estranger did that the other day but I see those new links. Its dumb
05:22 < Virtual-Potato> why the hell are you using a 800x600 monitor
05:22 < suttin> lul
05:22 < odify_> i dont fullscreen irc, dickhead
05:22 < DrGibby|> tsarbomba: stop being a shitadmin
05:22 < tsarbomba> here use this one instead
05:22 < tsarbomba> https://www.ladyandtheblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/tide_new_child-guard-tub.jpg
05:22 < suttin> cryptic1: help pls tsarbomba is spamming
05:23 < DrGibby|> ^^^
05:23 < DrGibby|> I NEED AN ADULT
05:23 < tsarbomba> let me send over the adult who roofied that girl
05:23 < tsarbomba> i think he goes by "kenrin"
05:23 < DrGibby|> WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA
05:23 < DrGibby|> oh nvm
05:24 < tsarbomba> i am convinced that some parts of the android notifications are designed to fuck with me
05:25 < tsarbomba> the new palm smartphone will right the mobile technology ship
05:26 < suttin> tsarbomba: i just got one of those containers too, its not hard to open
05:26 < suttin> tsarbomba: are you a windows admin?
05:26 < tsarbomba> suttin i know, it's just that the reasoning and timing is comical
05:26 < tsarbomba> i'm a "whatever gets me paid the most" admin
05:26 < tsarbomba> if you only admin one platform or another you've already lost the war
05:27 < suttin> you can get away with that if your a linux admin huehuehue
05:27 <+NinjaStyle> I'm a get paid admin too
05:28 < tsarbomba> cash really does rule everything around me
05:28 < tsarbomba> #streetlessons
05:28 <+NinjaStyle> I legit had probably 10 recruiter messages this week on LinkedIn
05:28 < catbeard> same
05:28 <+NinjaStyle> so fuck it, someone will pay me
05:28 < tsarbomba> not really considering staying local to .co, ninjastyle?
05:28 < suttin> im waiting till my 2 year before I update the linkedin
05:29 < suttin> I dont want to pay back half of my relocation assistance
05:29 <+NinjaStyle> I want to tsarbomba
05:29 < tsarbomba> everybody's too high to hire for IT?
05:29 < tsarbomba> weed shops need admins too
05:29 <+NinjaStyle> in fact this one I'm interviewing for tomorrow is supposed to be remote
05:29 < tsarbomba> well you do infosec so maybe not so much there
05:30 < tsarbomba> i haven't really made the jump and frankly if the pay stays right and the work remains there i may just not
05:30 <+NinjaStyle> infosec+consulting=profit
05:30 < tsarbomba> i'm more curious about going back to school for an electrical engineering degree than i am about going into something that requires probably more dedication to actual dev work than i'm willing to offer
05:30 < suttin> im excited, I'm going to start doing more dev work
05:31 < tsarbomba> i also need to figure out how best to incorporate my particular line of bullshit
05:31 <+NinjaStyle> I did a shitload of dev this past 4 weeks
05:31 < tsarbomba> the msp consulting idea was interesting but for such a saturated industry there isn't a whole lot of interest in spending some reasonable amount of resources on setting it up and doing it right
05:31 < catbeard> same
05:31 < suttin> were really starting to ramp up infra as code
05:32 <+NinjaStyle> I'm not an msp
05:32 < tsarbomba> no i'm referring to something i was tossing around a few years back
05:32 <+NinjaStyle> strictly consulting, no managed services
05:32 < tsarbomba> as i was leaving #mspland
05:32 <+NinjaStyle> ah, msp sucks dick tho
05:32 < catbeard> consulting and managed services, linux only tho
05:32 < tsarbomba> to go into infosec i'd need to really give my coding a kick in the ass and my continuing education would probably suffer
05:32 < tsarbomba> so it would be a commitment and something i'd have to follow through on
05:33 < tsarbomba> i just don't know if i'm in that headspace
05:33 <+NinjaStyle> a lot of guys I work with can't code
05:33 <+NinjaStyle> the best ones can though
05:33 < catbeard> i work with mostly shell scripters
05:33 < catbeard> no appdev so i'm the only dev
05:33 < suttin> you guys wanna hear something dumb? my security team wanted my team to install aide on thousands of servers to track all file changes on our servers so they could then compare it with servicenow to see if there were unauthroized changes
05:33 < catbeard> LOL
05:34 < catbeard> how about auditd
05:34 < suttin> that would be better yes, but they didnt understand how huge of an ask that was
05:34 <+CheckYourSix> NinjaStyle: Define code... Python? Or more heavy duty stuff?
05:34 <+NinjaStyle> file integrity monitoring is required for pci iirc
05:35 < suttin> when I clapped back that they needed 5 FTE's to parse the logs, they backed off
05:35 < suttin> NinjaStyle: only on in scope systems
05:35 <+NinjaStyle> CheckYourSix: I have been coding in java
05:35 <+NinjaStyle> because Android
05:35 < suttin> and we outsource our pci services for that reason
05:35 <+NinjaStyle> suttin: right
05:35 <+NinjaStyle> "CDE" systems
05:36 < suttin> they even wanted us to audit /var/log
05:36 <+CheckYourSix> suttin: How much work is AIDE/auditd?
05:36 < DrGibby|> s/AIDE/AIDS
05:36 <+layer-eight> CheckYourSix meant: "suttin: How much work is AIDS/auditd?"
05:37 <+NinjaStyle> I hear aids is all about maintenance
05:37 < suttin> neither one is hard to install, its the post install configuration and monitoring thats the issue
05:37 <+NinjaStyle> plane finally taking off
05:37 < suttin> aide is a package with like 1 config file and a cron job
05:38 < suttin> also, if someone gets root access, they can just fuck with the aide log
05:38 < suttin> lel
05:39 <+NinjaStyle> that's the problem with audit logging a lot of times
05:39 <+NinjaStyle> is Houston on CST?
05:39 < suttin> yes
05:39 < suttin> should be
05:39 <+CheckYourSix> So why can't you set up the config file, then use some config management tool to install on all servers and push the config file, have them send the log data to another server for monitoring?
05:39 <+NinjaStyle> fuck
05:39 < suttin> yeah its cst
05:40 <+NinjaStyle> that means my interview is basically at 9 am
05:40 < suttin> CheckYourSix: thats what I would do, but we have thousands of servers, and there are no standards for where things are
05:40 <+CheckYourSix> suttin: Oh, you left that part out
05:40 < suttin> yeah its dumb
05:40 <+CheckYourSix> NinjaStyle: 9am CST? What's wrong with that?
05:41 <+NinjaStyle> 10 CST
05:41 < Virtual-Potato> too early
05:41 <+NinjaStyle> I'm usually on mountain
05:41 <+CheckYourSix> Virtual-Potato: Lol
05:41 <+CheckYourSix> Virtual-Potato: I try to be at work no later than 730. I can't stand working past like 4pm
05:41 <+NinjaStyle> i get in to work at 9 usually if they're lucky
05:41 <+CheckYourSix> Unless I'm getting overtime
05:41 < Virtual-Potato> How long do interviews usually last
05:42 <+NinjaStyle> that's coffee time not interview time
05:42 <+NinjaStyle> I have one scheduled at 10, another at 10:45
05:42 <+CheckYourSix> Being at work at 6am is great for getting out early. Even though I'm not a morning person at all. But being out the door by 230 or 3pm is so nice
05:42 < Virtual-Potato> because I remember this one interview I had... started at 8am, I didn't leave until like 12:30 pm
05:43 <+CheckYourSix> I had 3 interviews for this job. VP, HR, then my boss
05:43 <+CheckYourSix> By the time I started to interview with my boss, I knew I had it.
05:43 <+NinjaStyle> my flight leaves at 3:40 sooo
05:43 <+NinjaStyle> can't be too long
05:43 <+CheckYourSix> Nice
05:43 < Virtual-Potato> that was killer
05:43 < xe0n> sup
05:43 < Virtual-Potato> the worst part was... I didn't even get it
05:44 <+CheckYourSix> Virtual-Potato: Well that just sucks
05:44 <+NinjaStyle> what was interesting about this one was I did pretty shitty in the phone interview
05:44 < Virtual-Potato> that was 2 years ago...  I like where I'm at now so it's all but a distant memory
05:45 <+NinjaStyle> I hit 30 mins in and was like " sorry I got another call" which was true
05:45 <+NinjaStyle> but next day they asked me to fly out
05:45 < Virtual-Potato> Lol I remember fucking up an interview for an internship.. They asked me what SNMP was.... I totally lost it, couldn't remember what it was
05:45 <+NinjaStyle> also I was super stressed on my project and I kinda gave the boss shit for rescheduling on me
05:46 < Virtual-Potato> "Simple uhhh Network monitoring protocol?"
05:46 < Virtual-Potato> to uhh monitor the network?
05:46 < Virtual-Potato> They didn't call me back
05:46 <+CheckYourSix> Haha
05:47 <+NinjaStyle> pretty close to correct tho
05:47 <+NinjaStyle> it's more often used for monitoring than management
05:48 < Virtual-Potato> yeah, there were plenty other things I messed up with
05:49 < xe0n> oh well, it's a learning exercise lol
05:50 < Virtual-Potato> "what to NOT do during an interview"
05:50 <+NinjaStyle> so I just talked about that for 30 mins
05:50 <+NinjaStyle> ermergerd keep losing wifi
05:51 <+NinjaStyle> my phone interview was just him asking me about my methodology* <never sent
05:56 < Sousapro> Virtual-Potato: accidentally woo the interviewer's wife during the interview?
05:58 < Virtual-Potato> I should do that
05:58 < tsarbomba> s/woo/impregnate
05:58 <+layer-eight> Sousapro meant: "Virtual-Potato: accidentally impregnate the interviewer's wife during the interview?"
05:59 < DrGibby|> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkM71JPHfjk&mind=blown
05:59 <+layer-eight> YouTube The Good, the Bad and the Ugly - The Danish National Symphony Orchestra (Live) by 2018-02-01T17:25:38.000Z (duration: 6:14) on Fri Feb 02 00:25:38 UTC 2018, 2018-02-01T17:25:38.000Z views
05:59 < DrGibby|> fuck
05:59 < DrGibby|> this song
05:59 < Sousapro> "accidentally" on purpose
05:59 < tsarbomba> lol @ &mind=blown in the url
05:59 < Virtual-Potato> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
06:00 < DrGibby|> reminds me of my grandpa so much
06:00 < DrGibby|> :')
06:00 < tsarbomba> anything related to the man with no name trilogy is +++ by default
06:00 < tsarbomba> i kinda wish my grandpa were as into spaghetti westerns back when i was 15 as i am now
06:01 < tsarbomba> but fuck it he was a war hero
06:01 < tsarbomba> he can like whatever westerns he wants
06:01 < tsarbomba> s/wants/wanted
06:01 <+layer-eight> tsarbomba meant: "he can like whatever westerns he wanted"
06:01 < Sousapro> s/westerns he wanted/the hell he wanted
06:01 <+layer-eight> tsarbomba meant: "he can like whatever the hell he wanted"
06:02 < Sousapro> :')
06:02 < DrGibby|> I miss him so much
06:02 < tsarbomba> +++
06:03 < tsarbomba> danish opera singer OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE
06:07 < DrGibby|> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CI-0E_jses
06:07 <+layer-eight> YouTube Glenn Miller - In The Mood [HQ] by 2010-12-07T05:58:25.000Z (duration: 3:36) on Tue Dec 07 12:58:25 UTC 2010, 2010-12-07T05:58:25.000Z views
06:08 < DrGibby|> Cheers, grandpa.
06:17 <+NinjaStyle> you're a grandpa
06:19 < sideup66> how i feel when i just blew a student loan from orbit around my damn head https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H91rPIq2mN4
06:19 <+layer-eight> YouTube wtf boom by 2008-04-23T04:44:52.000Z (duration: 9s) on Wed Apr 23 11:44:52 UTC 2008, 2008-04-23T04:44:52.000Z views
06:19 <+NinjaStyle> wat
06:25 <+NinjaStyle> Southwest is best airline
06:26 <+NinjaStyle> for flying within the US
06:26 < Stoob> HAH
06:27 < Stoob> OK
06:27 < sideup66> im ridin spinnaz
06:27 < sideup66> dey better
06:28 <+NinjaStyle> Stoob: go on
06:30 < sideup66> NinjaStyle: ride spinnaz
06:30 < sideup66> dey dont stop
06:30 <+NinjaStyle> never heard of it
06:30 < Stoob> no no by all means you're the one makin the claims i'd like to hear your thoughts on southwest
06:31 <+NinjaStyle> they don't fuck with you at all
06:32 <+NinjaStyle> they're generally nice
06:32 <+NinjaStyle> usually cheap
06:32 <+NinjaStyle> easy boarding
06:32 < Stoob> I'll give you that they are straightforward in that they warn you you aint gettin shit and sure enough you dont get shit
06:32 <+NinjaStyle> free carry ons
06:33 < Stoob> most other lines are like oh no here's our premium service JK YOU'RE HUMAN GARBAGE AND WE'RE A TRASH TRUCK
06:33 <+NinjaStyle> frontier is the worst shit ever
06:33 < Stoob> I'm almost always happy with virgin america and jetblue
06:34 <+NinjaStyle> United will beat you up and kill your dog
06:34 < Stoob> american air and united are my least favorite and most "we're the cheapest jk here's another fee" lnies
06:34 <+NinjaStyle> frontier is the worst for that
06:35 <+NinjaStyle> it's like $40 for a carry on
06:35 <+NinjaStyle> they're all dicks too
06:35 <+NinjaStyle> it's like part of the interview
06:36 <+NinjaStyle> are completely absent of hospitality skills? points
06:36 < Stoob> as someone who's 6'5, I always spring for extra legroom, so i expect basically any baseline ticket to be +$100 minimum
06:39 <+NinjaStyle> :/
06:39 <+NinjaStyle> I'm just glad I didn't pay for shit for this flight
06:40 <+NinjaStyle> the company I am interviewing for I think dropped ~$800
06:40 <+NinjaStyle> probably because I booked the flight through a 3rd party service literally yesterday
06:41 <+NinjaStyle> and hotel
06:41 < Stoob> shoulda demanded first class
06:41 < Stoob> now they know they can push u around
06:41 <+NinjaStyle> lol
06:41 <+NinjaStyle> I was pretty limited on available flights through their travel agency
06:42 <+NinjaStyle> since it was such short notice
06:42 <+NinjaStyle> Southwest has no first class
06:43 < Stoob> the least they could've done for someone of your stature is a charter jet
06:43 <+NinjaStyle> for real
06:44 <+NinjaStyle> I'm still pretty far from my destination. Houston is farther than I thought
06:44 < TheTinker86> so after many hours today examining the phone systems i have to deal with...
06:45 < TheTinker86> ive decided that the likely best thing i can do right now, is add more ram to them lol
06:45 <+NinjaStyle> the phones
06:45 <+NinjaStyle> ?
06:45 < Stoob> NinjaStyle: what position you interviewing for if you dont mind me asking?
06:45 < TheTinker86> phone server
06:45 <+NinjaStyle> penetration tester
06:46 < Stoob> ooooo
06:46 < TheTinker86> FreePBX on Linux with some dumb stuff from the previous tech
06:47 < TheTinker86> 2 of the 3 systems only have 1gb of ram. the 3rd has 3 gb. the 3rd system, ive only seen it go to 40$ memory usage. the other 2 are almost always above 90%
06:47 <+NinjaStyle> Stoob: it's what I do currently
06:47 < TheTinker86> lol penetration ;p
06:47 < Stoob> well a couple gigs aint too expensive
06:47 <+NinjaStyle> I'm trying to either be stoked to take it, or get an offer to use as leverage
06:48 < TheTinker86> yar Stoob
06:48 < Stoob> NinjaStyle: well hopefully the offer is astronomical
06:48 <+NinjaStyle> yeah I hope so
06:48 <+NinjaStyle> lol
06:48 < TheTinker86> that will be the next thing i do with these systems to help them stay alive until we can get a 3rd party in place to take over phones
06:48 <+NinjaStyle> probably won't be though
06:48 < Stoob> I'm thinking about starting looking for new employment myself but I dont even know what to call myself anymore
06:49 < TheTinker86> now, does anyone have a recomendation for a server?
06:49 < TheTinker86> or a company to go with in building one
06:49 < Stoob> TheTinker86: Don't go with an nec sv9100 because holy crap freepbx is so much better than that
06:49 < tsarbomba> <Stoob> the least they could've done for someone of your stature is a charter jet
06:49 < tsarbomba> "bitch my time is worth at LEAST a g650"
06:49 <+NinjaStyle> Stoob: I'm chase what you want to do
06:49 <+NinjaStyle> imo*
06:49 < Stoob> g650 plane or motorcycle, either way i'd be happy :P
06:50 < TheTinker86> I need to make a server that will be an active directory, file server, and print server as well as allow up to 30 users to terminal service in at a given time
06:50 < Stoob> NinjaStyle: that's the question isn't it ;) right now I do eeverything and I'd like to do more of one thing
06:50 <+NinjaStyle> what is your favorite part of what you do?
06:51 < Stoob> thinking about trying to go into infosec perhaps even compliance officer sort of work
06:51 < Stoob> (in part because of how frustrated I am at the lack of effort put into infosec around here)
06:51 <+NinjaStyle> let me know if you're seriously interested
06:51 <+NinjaStyle> we do security consulting and a large part of it is compliance based
06:52 < Stoob> I'll have to polish up the resume first :P
06:52 <+NinjaStyle> I get a fat referral bonus
06:52 <+NinjaStyle> where are you located?
06:52 < Stoob> San Diego are
06:52 < Stoob> a
06:52 <+NinjaStyle> ah damn
06:53 <+NinjaStyle> no office there anymore
06:53 < Stoob> Too bad, it's a pretty nice place to be
06:54 < Stoob> also @ fat referral bonus "Cya guys I'm taking an offer somewhere else also I found a guy can I get a referral bonus"
06:54 < Stoob> :D
06:55 <+NinjaStyle> lol
06:55 <+NinjaStyle> they actually offer a referral bonus to outsiders too iirc
06:55 <+NinjaStyle> honestly I like my company a lot
06:56 <+NinjaStyle> I just want more money
06:56 < Stoob> You mentioned houston, you texas based or is that just a layover?
06:56 <+NinjaStyle> I'm going there for my interview. I'm based in Denver
06:57 < Stoob> Both of those places are where it seems like most of the job growth is, honestly
06:57 <+NinjaStyle> yeah Dallas is pretty good too
06:58 <+NinjaStyle> and then pnw and Bay area
06:58 <+NinjaStyle> I see a lot in Chicago as well
06:58 < Stoob> Bay area just seems not worth it
06:59 <+NinjaStyle> yeah I feel the same
06:59 < Stoob> texas would be nice, I'd like to buy myself some guns :P
06:59 <+NinjaStyle> work friend is former apple and he took like 2/3 pay to leave the bay area
07:00 < Stoob> I hear that story a lot honestly
07:00 <+NinjaStyle> yeah and it's cheap af in tx
07:00 < Stoob> Yeah, right now I'm in a surprisingly cheap place per sqft in the outskirts of san diego but the commute kills
07:01 < Stoob> perhaps literally since I ride a motorcycle
07:01 <+NinjaStyle> lol
07:01 < enix> I just asked my bot to talk dirty to me and it quit
07:01 < enix> lame
07:01 <+NinjaStyle> get that full remote job
07:01 < Stoob> thats the dream isnt it :P
07:01 <+NinjaStyle> I don't know
07:01 < Stoob> a job you dont even have to show up to
07:01 <+NinjaStyle> I like working with people
07:02 <+NinjaStyle> I think I would miss it
07:02 < enix> Stoob: sounds like th ebest job ever
07:02 < Stoob> I do too, but I've always been more than happy with interacting people over voice, video, and text
07:03 <+NinjaStyle> I just collaborate and bounce ideas way more freely when I am in person
07:03 <+NinjaStyle> may be a me problem
07:03 < Stoob> The biggest barrier with remote interactions in my experience is when you need say an error message off of a screen and can't see said screen
07:04 < Stoob> I think we've all heard the windows error noise, asked what error popped up and received "oh nothing it just didnt work"
07:04 <+NinjaStyle> lol
07:05 <+NinjaStyle> well yeah full remote doing sysadmin stuff would be hard
07:05 < xe0n> ^
07:06 < Stoob> IDK, I'd have to say the vaast majority of sysadmin stuff is totally remotable
07:07 < xe0n> i like coming into the office and working with my peers
07:07 < xe0n> sure i stay home and do docu if i need too, but otherwise i like to come in
07:07 <+NinjaStyle> until a server or UPS or something is down hard
07:07 <+NinjaStyle> xe0n: I'm the same way
07:07 < Stoob> There are certainly pros and cons
07:08 <+NinjaStyle> I also really like every one of my coworkers
07:08 <+NinjaStyle> and I have like 15 in the same office
07:08 <+NinjaStyle> I think that's rare. it is for me anyway
07:08 < xe0n> yeah, the group i work with are a cool bunch
07:09 < xe0n> we just end up laughing, and using the tommy wiseau soundboard all day lol
07:09 < Ayeitzabee> I am so alone :D
07:09 < xe0n> https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/648454
07:09 <+NinjaStyle> we all break shit and act like rebels
07:09 <+NinjaStyle> we hung Russian and Chinese flags recently as a joke
07:10 <+NinjaStyle> and the company doesn't even give a shit
07:10 <+NinjaStyle> we have pirate flags and defcon flags too
07:10 < Stoob> things down hard are why youve got remote hands / reasonably technical staff local. I had to do some remote management when I was on vacation in new york with some systems that went completely down (switching loop, basically a dumb switch bridging somewhere that made RSTP think the root was across the dumb switch, but no VLANs could get across it... naturally STP has since been reconfigured)
07:11 < Stoob> it wasn't too terrible, sure it'd have been a faster fix if I were nearby, but not by terribly much (especially not if i'd had my home workstation to sit at)
07:11 < Stoob> NinjaStyle: sounds like a fun environment
07:12 <+NinjaStyle> it is great. most of the company thinks we are hooligans though
07:12 <+NinjaStyle> which we are
07:13 < Stoob> Our IT dept is so small that I don't have the opportunity for that level of mingling. Have to stay presentable as we're right mixed in with all other departments
07:14 < Stoob> (and are interrupted as frequently as you might imagine)
07:14 <+NinjaStyle> yeah
07:14 < Ayeitzabee> I am the only dude at the the $company so I can't really to talk anyway
07:14 < Ayeitzabee> s/anyway/anyone
07:14 <+layer-eight> Ayeitzabee meant: "I am the only dude at the the $company so I can't really to talk anyone"
07:15 < Stoob> Ayeitzabee: thats a bummer
07:15 < Ayeitzabee> IT dude I should say aha
07:15 <+NinjaStyle> I've worked in all the company cultures I think except for a startup
07:15 < Stoob> we recently hired one guy that's at around my same skill level so its been very fun working with him
07:15 < Ayeitzabee> My second job is a remote IT thing for a startup in 'merica :D
07:15 <+NinjaStyle> yeah when you're around smart people you elevate each other
07:16 <+NinjaStyle> it's super cool
07:16 < Stoob> basically nobody else in the office would be able to hold a conversation about ms exchange (even he can't... he's linux :P) but you know what i mean
07:16 < Ayeitzabee> One thing we all have in common, hate for Windows Update
07:17 < Stoob> even the people answering the phones hate windows update :P
07:17 < Ayeitzabee> OOOOooooOOOo ShiT soN iMmA upDatiNG Boi
07:17 <+NinjaStyle> I hate when I have like 500 things open and my shit reboots without asking
07:18 <+NinjaStyle> and it doesn't suspend my vms either
07:18  * Stoob sets wsus deadlines to 10AM, ha ha ha
07:18 < Ayeitzabee> The dread 15 minute warning when it wants to restart on a XenDesktop server
07:18 < Stoob> NinjaStyle: the fact that it doesn't suspend VMs is unforgivable to me
07:18 < Ayeitzabee> dreaded*
07:18 < Ayeitzabee> Oh it is a shit show
07:18 <+NinjaStyle> for real
07:18 < Ayeitzabee> And it makes it even worse when the updates break more shit when they fix
07:19 < Stoob> you didnt need that network card did you?
07:19 < Ayeitzabee> That IP wasn't static for a reason was it
07:19 <+NinjaStyle> oh yeah that happened recently
07:19 <+NinjaStyle> those assholes
07:21 < Stoob> Luckily we run vmware/nutanix at work so I don't have to worry so much about the vms not suspending
07:21 < Ayeitzabee> I find it funny as well when people bitch to me about their computers updating during the day, yet they don't leave it on over the designated Thursday to update
07:21 < Stoob> but my home server rebooting irritates me to no end
07:21 < Ayeitzabee> It is the same people every week
07:21 < Stoob> (it's full hyperv)
07:21 < Stoob> Ayeitzabee: you can turn off the "shut down" button via GPO ;)
07:21 < Stoob> (and superglue the power cord)
07:21 <+NinjaStyle> I'm a user guys be nice
07:22 < Stoob> users... uh... find a way
07:23 < Stoob> </jeffgoldblum>
07:24 < Ayeitzabee> Stoob, that is a good idea
07:24 <+NinjaStyle> am user, get mad at windows update
07:24 < rootsudo> you know what I don't get
07:24 < Ayeitzabee> wut?
07:25 < Stoob> laid? heyooooo
07:25 <+NinjaStyle> once I lost like a whole day of work because of windows update
07:25 < rootsudo> How the fuck is Malyasia and Thailand is better than Indonesia and Philippine
07:25 < Ayeitzabee> AYYYYY
07:25 < Ayeitzabee> lmao
07:25 < rootsudo> Cheaper and more reliable services/infrastructure even though separated via langauge and culture while English is prominient in both those islands but being on a fucking island
07:25 < Ayeitzabee> NinjaStyle, What even is saving word documents
07:25 < Stoob> you lost a whole day of work because you didnt save NinjaStyle, its *your fault* not windows
07:25 <+NinjaStyle> Stoob: sick burn
07:25 < rootsudo> really fucks with everything I guess. Having an actual intercountry highway system does that I guess
07:26 < Stoob> I try
07:26 <+NinjaStyle> Stoob: why is it ok for windows to not ask first?
07:26 <+NinjaStyle> you all are just acting like user experience isn't a thing
07:26 < Stoob> NinjaStyle: nah we aren't, we hate windows update as much as anyone
07:27 < rootsudo> Did you guys realize, MSFT is pushing away from Windows being it's core profit center?
07:27 < Ayeitzabee> Here is a weird one, I have a user that will only show sent items that have attachments in her outlook
07:27 < rootsudo> But windows update isn't the same as patch tuesday.
07:27 < Stoob> windows by default generally asks first (at least a few times), but poor wsus/gpo settings can change that
07:27 < Ayeitzabee> OWA has all the emails there fine
07:27 < rootsudo> Stoob not in 10.
07:27 < Stoob> even in 10, you get a giant blue bar saying "hey you need updates"
07:27 <+NinjaStyle> it's easy to hindsight someone as an admin who rarely is writing long ass word socks
07:27 <+NinjaStyle> docs
07:28 <@Nostalg14c> Anyone konw what character format pfsense defaults to for logs?
07:28 < Stoob> Nostalg14c: it's not utf8?
07:28 < Ayeitzabee> ASCII? :D
07:28 < Holo> ASCII64
07:28 <@Nostalg14c> Stoob: i have some logs being forwarded that are mangling with utf-8
07:29 < Stoob> interesting Nostalg14c, probably depends on the particular services logging moreso than pfsense itself
07:29 <@Nostalg14c> squid
07:29 < rootsudo> Whose that guy that loves pfsense?
07:29 <+NinjaStyle> felda
07:29 < Stoob> felda?
07:29 <@Nostalg14c> The hard part is i dont have a login to the pfsense box atm.
07:29 <@Nostalg14c> Or i'd just.. like.. check.
07:29 <+NinjaStyle> landing soon wooo
07:30 <@Nostalg14c> 95% of the logs come through fine as well. So it must just be particular url's with some funky char.
07:30 < Stoob> NinjaStyle: note that my comments about wsus deadlines @ 10AM and turning off shutdown options are what I thought were obvious sarcasm. It's hard to forget how annoying windows update is regardless of whether you write long documents ;)
07:30 < Holo> pfSense uses a Circular Log format known as clog to maintain a constant log size.
07:30 < Holo> ok then
07:30 <@Nostalg14c> many usesful
07:30 < Stoob> (I had a long-term 3d print going from a windows box which rebooted due to updates... say goodbye to a pound of plastic and hours of printing)
07:31 < rootsudo> thanks, he's going to scroll up in the morning now :D
07:31 <+NinjaStyle> writing a pentest report sucks dick, writing one twice sucks double dick
07:31 < rootsudo> NinjaStyle you mean you just don't print out the nessus report to pdf and replace the logo with you companies?
07:31 <+NinjaStyle> lol
07:32 < Stoob> honestly amazed if you were doing it in word that it was lost, later versions of word are pretty incessant about autosaves
07:32 <+NinjaStyle> nessus comes as an appendix but we do include it
07:32 < Ayeitzabee> I have our word here autosave every 5 minutes for everyone
07:32 < rootsudo> actually a bit ironic, you can modify gpo for autosave? really?
07:32 < Stoob> if I had a dollar for every "security audit" that was just a nessus scan... well I'd have a few dollars I guess
07:32 < rootsudo> wow you can
07:32 < Stoob> if MS does anything right, it's GPOs for everything
07:32 < rootsudo> today I learned
07:33 < Stoob> (not that win10 necessarily cares that you've set GPOs...)
07:33 <@Nostalg14c> ugh
07:33 <@Nostalg14c> Win10 gpo..
07:33 < Holo> hahahaha
07:33 < rootsudo> Stoob that's probably it, w10
07:33 <@Nostalg14c> there'slike 40,000 user registry keys for settings.
07:33 <@Nostalg14c> and no gpos
07:33 < rootsudo> Actually I'm worried with o365 success and such
07:34 < rootsudo> soon windows is going to be a saas model
07:34 <+NinjaStyle> we do vulnerability assessment which is the findings from a scan validated
07:34 < Stoob> honestly I'd be fine with that. or at least a lot finer with that than this half-n-half that they're doing now rootsudo
07:34 < rootsudo> NinjaStyle so you follow the CVE readme and download the metasploit package and bitch why it doesn't work right?
07:34 < genr8___> they are
07:35 < rootsudo> Stoob They can't do it so quickly, they need to relinquish support for older os's and make the change gradually slow over the next decade, windows 7 is the old windows 2k and windows 10 is going to be the new xp
07:35 < rootsudo> fucking 8 is the ME
07:35 <+NinjaStyle> a pentest is a scan and a real world pwnage
07:35 <+NinjaStyle> vuln assessment is essentially a scan with manual verification
07:35 < Stoob> NinjaStyle: do you include tcp timestamps as a vulnerability
07:35 < rootsudo> I got it
07:35 < rootsudo> Block chain SAAS operating system
07:36 < Holo> they need to finish fucking with the UI in 10
07:36 < rootsudo> Stoob I saw Ping replies on a report before
07:36 < Holo> and have documentation
07:36 < rootsudo> Holo That'd never happen, you know how UI design is done in MSFT?
07:36 < Holo> rootsudo in a horrid way
07:36 <+NinjaStyle> you guys hire shit companies
07:36 < rootsudo> It's all designed and bitched about in S4B meetings with power point presentations given why this or that is best for justification
07:36  * rootsudo fucking hates s4b
07:37 <+NinjaStyle> if you want a good job next time let me know:)
07:37 < Stoob> NinjaStyle: in my experience its usually the executives hiring shit companies, and us having to deal with the fallout :P
07:37 <+NinjaStyle> well then. sorry
07:37 < Stoob> (regardless of the "advice" given to the executives pre-purchase)
07:37 < genr8___> indeed
07:37 < rootsudo> Stoob cause execs know IT better than we do
07:37 <+NinjaStyle> we have good sales guys too
07:38 <+NinjaStyle> they can trick your fickle execs
07:38 < Stoob> brb moving to denver sending u my resume
07:38 < rootsudo> https://www.bitium.com/
07:38 < rootsudo> Denver sucks Stoob
07:38 < Stoob> denver is ok in my book
07:38 < rootsudo> It sucks so much they had to legalize weed to get people to stay
07:38 < Stoob> even though I crashed my motorcycle twice in the snow in one day there, it's an alright place by me
07:39 < Stoob> I shared a hotel room with a trucker I met in the lobby, 10/10 didn't get diddled would do again
07:39 <+NinjaStyle> landed. bbl
07:39 < Stoob> sorry I mean I didn't get penetration tested
07:39 <+NinjaStyle> Stoob: do it
07:40 < rootsudo> Stoob but he probed you and scanned your ports?
07:40 < Church-> Welp I'm sick. Oh boy is this a fun feeling.
07:40 <+NinjaStyle> nvm plane is unloading slow af
07:42 < Stoob> rootsudo: he may have done a vulnerability scan but my physical access controls are on point
07:44 < rootsudo> So, why aren't you guys working remote jobs?
07:44 < rootsudo> https://jdow.io/blog/2018/03/18/web-application-penetration-testing-methodology/
07:46 < Stoob> rootsudo: because most of the time they pay less
07:46 <+NinjaStyle> should I be worried the airport is on fire?
07:46 < rootsudo> NinjaStyle Nah. Not your fire to take care off.
07:46 < voidstar> not unless your flight is cancelled
07:46 <+NinjaStyle> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/hVgdaLgB/irccloudcapture8062199123957540090.mp4
07:47 <+NinjaStyle> the fire alarm is going off
07:47 <+NinjaStyle> and it's empty in here
07:48 < rootsudo> NinjaStyle Well you're fucked.
07:48 < rootsudo> RIP NinjaStyle
07:48 <+NinjaStyle> lol
07:48 < Stoob> well just be glad it's not the sellafield alarms https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtNgOeqBKQU
07:48 <+layer-eight> YouTube Sellafield Alarm Sounds by 2012-10-03T00:27:17.000Z (duration: 4:20) on Wed Oct 03 07:27:17 UTC 2012, 2012-10-03T00:27:17.000Z views
07:48 < Stoob> best creepy alarms
07:49 <+NinjaStyle> oh good the alarm stopped
07:49 <+NinjaStyle> and I'm still not on fire
07:49 < rootsudo> NinjaStyle Don't trust it, haven't you seen that Die hard?
07:49 < rootsudo> The germans took over the place.
07:50 < Stoob> it'd be the russians nowadays
07:50 <+NinjaStyle> probably here to kill me
07:50 < Stoob> i wonder if the russians have as much of a meme of americans being hackers as we have of them
07:50 <+NinjaStyle> or kidnap more likely
07:50 < rootsudo> Stoob Well, provided that we created the Internet and everything
07:51 < rootsudo> I wouldn't say it's hacking per se, but we have the most experience in configuration and deployment; plus aren't most languages created by americans?
07:51 <+NinjaStyle> English was
07:51 < Stoob> sure rootsudo but do they throw some dude in a ski mask with american flags behind him in news articles
07:52 < Stoob> looking menacing with a laptop
07:52 < Stoob> hacking into our TCP timestamps and pings
07:53 < rootsudo> Java/Oracle - USA, Python - Netherlands, C - Bell Labs, USA. Ruby, Japanese. Javscript - Netscape/USA, PHP, California/Zend from C,
07:53 < voidstar> I don't normally hack, but when I do, I cat /dev/urandom
07:54 < ihre> we gots the pythons too, NL NL NL NL NL NL
07:54 < rootsudo> Yeah USA is king for computer science, curious
07:54 < rootsudo> Mostly Bell
07:54 < ihre> berkley
07:54 < ihre> mit
07:54 < rootsudo> Yeah that too ^
07:56 < ihre> brainfuck - swiss :^)
07:56 < Stoob> forgot C# and Go, perl, asm even probably
07:57 < rootsudo> Who the fuck uses assembly man
07:57 < ihre> we have one of those bose soundlink minis at the office, everytime i play something on it im amazed by the quality from such a small speaker :D
07:57 < hug> PHP is not American.
07:57 < hug> It's Danish, I think.
07:57 < enix> hug: YES IT IS BECAUSE ITS FREEDOM
07:57 < enix> FREEDOM FOR ASP
07:57 < enix> from
07:57 <+NinjaStyle> a lot of smart people know asm, wish I was one of them
07:58 < enix> NinjaStyle: a smart person?
07:58 <+NinjaStyle> yes
07:58 < hug> I mean you can learn it.
07:58 < enix> me too :(
07:58 < enix> hug: no we cant we not smart
07:58 <+NinjaStyle> why is it humid here
07:58 < rootsudo> hug Corporation is in California for PHP, Zend Corporation
07:58 < enix> hey google why is it humid here
07:58 < rootsudo> hug American pride and corporate love brah
07:58 < hug> rootsudo: Yeah, so?
07:58 < hug> that's like saying Python is American because BDFL works for Google.
07:59 < Stoob> no language with "Paamayim Nekudotayim" in it is american
07:59 < Stoob> :P
07:59 < ihre> almost every major corp has its shell hq in amsterdam because tax deals, does that make us the super corporate overlord?
07:59 < rootsudo> hug Well, isreali and USA is acceptable vs being employed fr a USA company while founding an organization for the development and future of PHP
07:59 < hug> The fuck are you on about
08:00 < rootsudo> hug Developer is known as Zend corporation and wiki trail says that
08:00 < hug> no.
08:00 < hug> Zend didn't invent PHP.
08:00 < hug> Rasmus Ledorf did.
08:00 < hug> It's now being developed by Zend, but that's because Zend took it over.
08:01 < rootsudo> That makes sense
08:12 < Gencade> hi guys
08:12 < ihre> hi guy
08:12 < Gencade> ihre, how you doin guy
08:12 < ihre> im fine buddy
08:12 < ihre> hry
08:12 < ihre> u
08:13 < Gencade> pretty good, it's friday
08:13 < Gencade> you ready for the weekend?
08:13 < ihre> not sure ;_:
08:13 < Gencade> why not?
08:13 < ihre> well i wanna visit a concert but its on the other part of the country, not sure if i wanna pay ~100e to get there :P
08:14 < ihre> actually just outside, in germany, public transport is expensive yo
08:14 < ihre> aint got no car :(
08:14 < Gencade> Uber?
08:16 < ihre> uber is definitely not cheaper in NL, although the price per fare is still better than regular taxis
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08:20 < mrWhiteMD> hello
08:20 < mrWhiteMD> .yt Rammstein - Amerika
08:20 <+layer-eight> YouTube Rammstein - Amerika (Official Video) - https://youtu.be/Rr8ljRgcJNM
08:20 < Ayeitzabee> .yt hanging out
08:20 <+layer-eight> YouTube Episode 1 | Best Hookup Ever | Hanging Out - https://youtu.be/hUtHQECTZGI
08:21 < Ayeitzabee> Dammit
08:21 < mrWhiteMD> Amerika ist wunderbar
08:23 < mrWhiteMD> Ayeitzabee: WHAT THE FUCKK????
08:23 < Ayeitzabee> mrWhiteMD, I was trying for something else aha
08:23 < Ayeitzabee> .yt The Knife - Hanging out
08:23 <+layer-eight> YouTube The Knife - Hanging Out - https://youtu.be/Y5Oq28LA6vg
08:24 < mrWhiteMD> .yt Princess Chelsea - The Cigarette Duet
08:24 < ihre> .yt hell march red alert
08:24 <+layer-eight> YouTube Princess Chelsea - The Cigarette Duet - https://youtu.be/4TV_128Fz2g
08:24 <+layer-eight> YouTube Red Alert Hell March HQ - https://youtu.be/-b5X69vREAg
08:34 < ceofreak> Good morning
08:34 < ihre> bah i hate it when shipping for an item from the us is more than the item itself, probably worth looking into some kind of PO box/forwarding service ><
08:34 < ihre> sup ceofreak
08:35 < ceofreak> Friday man, highly anticipated
08:35 < ceofreak> Need to GTFO here today early
08:38 < Ayeitzabee> ihre, Is your Friday nearly over?
08:38 < ihre> 08:38:35
08:38 < ihre> hardly
08:40 < Ayeitzabee> ihre, I thought you lived in aus aha
08:40 < ceofreak> Weekends Plans?
08:40 < ceofreak> Furniture shopping?
08:40 < mrWhiteMD> Drink and Boobs
08:41 < ihre> Ayeitzabee: just 13244km to just above perth
08:41 < ceofreak> Holy shit https://apnews.com/bb14d1bf3a6143118ba9910b11adb5d8
08:41 < ceofreak> that's incredible
08:42 < vorap> Morning
08:43 < Ayeitzabee> ihre, Only a small hop aye
08:44 < ihre> Ayeitzabee: exactly, a lovely stroll on sunday afternoon
08:46 < mrWhiteMD> ceofreak: hydraponic, what's so amazing
08:49 <@Nostalg14c> Fawk i love ELK
08:49 < Hatsjoe> #metoo
08:49 <@Nostalg14c> There should be a job role for doin this shit
08:49 < Hatsjoe> They offer certs now
08:50 < genr8___> there is
08:50 < Hatsjoe> You can make up your own job
08:51 <@Nostalg14c> Sure but.. someone's gotta hire me.
08:53 <@Nostalg14c> Hope i didn't point too much shit at the box just now.
09:17 < mrWhiteMD> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJQ9KoxS40g
09:17 <+layer-eight> YouTube Depeche Mode-World In My Eyes (Remastered) by 2015-11-09T00:17:54.000Z (duration: 4:27) on Mon Nov 09 07:17:54 UTC 2015, 2015-11-09T00:17:54.000Z views
09:29 < vorap> What are people up to?
09:30 <@Nostalg14c> 3:30pm Friday afternoon
09:30 <@Nostalg14c> about to do a AD Schema update
09:38 < vorap> Ah, cool
09:42 < Church-> Cooking pancakes and writing web apps.
10:10 < vorap> Ping?
10:11 < ihre> Pong?
10:25 < Kayofeld> Hello there
10:26 < Church-> Yo
10:26 < Kayofeld> wazup ?
10:48 < Reverend> morning nerds!
10:51 < mrWhiteMD> Reverend: depends on timezone)
10:53 < Reverend> It's always morning somewhere mrWhiteMD
11:03 < mrWhiteMD> we should switch to UTC ))
11:27 < Kayofeld> Yay ! Confirmed, job change in one month
11:27 < Kayofeld> finally not gonna work on non-documented non-commented 10 year old C++ code anymore
11:33 < ihre> switching to 15yr old C?
11:34 < humpaxx> Hey folks
11:34 < humpaxx> Happy friday
11:37 < ceofreak> happy humpday
11:37 < ceofreak> eh, friday
11:38 < Kayofeld> ihre: no, stopping software development actually
11:40 < Kayofeld> going to work on an EU project
11:43 < Kayofeld> and happy friday
11:45 < ihre> an EU project?
11:45 < Kayofeld> ihre: project financed by the EU and handled by multiple private entities
11:46 < Kayofeld> but basically my salary will be financed by EU budget
11:48 < ceofreak> guys
11:48 < ceofreak> Imma GTFO here
11:48 < ceofreak> wish you all a excellent weekend
11:49 < Kayofeld> ceofreak: have a nice wee :)
11:53 < Church-> See ya freak.
12:01 < humpaxx> Anyone got any idea why a P2V´d XP pro VM is ridicilously slow?
12:01 < humpaxx> Running in a 2012r2 hyper-v env
12:28 < Reverend> Kayofeld - have you handed in your notice?
12:35 < ihre> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers#/media/File:Pigeon_krakow.jpg heh the description :D
12:52 < Reverend> anyone know why conor mcgregor lobbed that trolled through the bus window?
12:54 < mrWhiteMD> ihre: loool, Packet Loss
12:58 < Reverend> someone actually used IP over avian carriers as an argument for his ISP to increase his bandwidth
12:59 < Reverend> he showed that sending packets via pigeon was quicker than his actual line
13:04 < genr8___> In September 2010, ISP Timico UK pitted a few homing pigeons against a rural broadband connection to see which was faster. Each pigeon carried a microSD card with 200 MB of HD video data, while simultaneously a typical Internet connection was used to upload the same video data to YouTube. This was done to raise awareness of poor Internet speeds experienced by many rural users. The pigeons delivered the data an hour and a quarter later, by
13:04 < genr8___> which time only a quarter of the data had been uploaded to YouTube via the broadband connection.[15][16]
13:19 < humpaxx> genr8___: Thats really cool
13:21 < mtnielsen> IP over carrier pigeon
13:21 < mtnielsen> it's a thing
13:22 < humpaxx> Faster than aussie interwebs
13:22 < mtnielsen> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers
13:23 < humpaxx> With todays microSD cards i can see IPoA being much faster
13:24 < estranger> you could get pretty good throughput with ip over bird, just shit latency
13:25 < humpaxx> and packetloss would be devestating
13:35 < semyon> cool, you could build pigeon routers
13:37 < ihre> .yt punt gun clay target
13:37 <+layer-eight> YouTube 13-Foot-Long Punt Gun Shot Gun Clay Target - https://youtu.be/bTQQfKxkZpk
13:37 < ihre> :3
14:01 < Wannabejrsysadm> Boyyyyyyyyzzzz
14:01 < Wannabejrsysadm> I need help
14:03 < humpaxx> Wannabejrsysadm: wadap?
14:03 < humpaxx> Is the server down btw?
14:04 < Wannabejrsysadm> what server ? :p
14:05 < humpaxx> _the_ server
14:05 < humpaxx> Theres more than one?
14:07 < humpaxx> Anyway i can´t acecss the server
14:09 < Wannabejrsysadm> fuck
14:09 < Wannabejrsysadm> you are tilting me
14:09 < Wannabejrsysadm> :P
14:09 < Wannabejrsysadm> no sir, "the systems" are up and running
14:12 <+AnonymooseWork> grumplestiltzkin; i did some more research into this issue last night
14:12 <+AnonymooseWork> I think I got it all figured out just gonna make the changes now
14:12 < Wannabejrsysadm> we have 2 Domain controllers
14:12 < Wannabejrsysadm> with DHCP
14:13 < Wannabejrsysadm> but my changes in the one DHCP don't seem to sync
14:13 < Wannabejrsysadm> or atleast the adressgroups don't
14:13 <+AnonymooseWork> 'sync'
14:13 <+AnonymooseWork> how do you have them configured?
14:13 < Wannabejrsysadm> no clue
14:13 <+AnonymooseWork> What version of windows?
14:13 < Wannabejrsysadm> win server 2012
14:15 <+AnonymooseWork> ok
14:15 <+AnonymooseWork> so
14:15 < mrWhiteMD> Wannabejrsysadm: restart DC )
14:15 <+AnonymooseWork> Wannabejrsysadm - are they two seperate dhcp scopes/
14:15 <+AnonymooseWork> or is it configured with failover
14:16 < Wannabejrsysadm> hmm
14:16 < Wannabejrsysadm> good questions
14:16 <+AnonymooseWork> Historically - when DHCP was setup on DC's it was setup as seperate installs
14:16 <+AnonymooseWork> its quite possible that its two seperate scopes
14:16 <+AnonymooseWork> ie 10.0.0.100-150 and 10.0.0.150-200
14:16 <+AnonymooseWork> etc.
14:17 <+AnonymooseWork>  man i feel dumb
14:17 < Wannabejrsysadm> nono
14:18 < Wannabejrsysadm> same scopes
14:18 <+AnonymooseWork> Sousapro - you are right - dell switches are junk
14:18 < Wannabejrsysadm> but i'm gonna start by restarting the one that doesn't seem to "sync"
14:18 <+AnonymooseWork> http://thesolving.com/server-room/how-to-configure-dhcp-failover-on-windows-server-2012-r2/
14:20 < Wannabejrsysadm> aha
14:20 < Wannabejrsysadm> i have an option
14:20 < Wannabejrsysadm> "replicate scope"
14:20 < mrWhiteMD> Wannabejrsysadm: did you tried ipconfig /release /renew on client PC ?
14:20 <+AnonymooseWork> bingo
14:20 < Wannabejrsysadm> clients are doing fine
14:21 < Wannabejrsysadm> just weirded out the changes i made on the one DHCP
14:21 < Wannabejrsysadm> don't show up in the scond DHCP server
14:22 < mrWhiteMD> Wannabejrsysadm: first sysadmin rule, if it worked, DON'T TOUCH !
14:23 < humpaxx> mrWhiteMD: If it works don´t patch it
14:23 < Wannabejrsysadm> hmm
14:23 < Wannabejrsysadm> seems like failover might not be configured
14:23 < Wannabejrsysadm> if i go to properties i don't see the failover tab
14:23 < mrWhiteMD> Wannabejrsysadm: you have 2 diferent DHCP
14:24 < Wannabejrsysadm> appearntly i do
14:24 < Wannabejrsysadm> so i have to manual set them both the same ?
14:24 < Wannabejrsysadm> or do i configure failover ?
14:26 <+AnonymooseWork> You need to configure both of them
14:26 < mrWhiteMD> https://imgflip.com/i/27uocd
14:26 < Wannabejrsysadm> ok
14:26 < Wannabejrsysadm> i know
14:26 < Wannabejrsysadm> but should i do it ?
14:26 < Wannabejrsysadm> configure them as failover ?
14:27 < mrWhiteMD> Wannabejrsysadm: if you want future problems
14:27 < Wannabejrsysadm> so no ?
14:27 < Wannabejrsysadm> :)
14:28 < mrWhiteMD> Wannabejrsysadm: why do you need this ?
14:28 < Wannabejrsysadm> redundancy ?
14:28 < Wannabejrsysadm> I have 2 domaincontrollers
14:28 < Wannabejrsysadm> both with dhcp role
14:29 < Wannabejrsysadm> i've cleaned up the first one
14:29 < Wannabejrsysadm> but the second one is still a miss
14:29 < Wannabejrsysadm> mess*
14:29 < Sousapro> AnonymooseWork: yeah :(
14:29 < Sousapro> Compared to UBNT they are bad
14:29 < Sousapro> And that's not great lol
14:31 < Wannabejrsysadm> nvm
14:31 < Wannabejrsysadm> they are confiugred as failover
14:31 < Wannabejrsysadm> https://www.screencast.com/t/5zEBWaqbekd
14:31 < vinrock> Any you fellas ever dealt with a unifi device that won't upgrade?
14:31 < vinrock> Connectivity is fine, upgraded in the past, can't get the current one to stick
14:31 < vinrock> just comes back up each time still on same version
14:34 < klocwerk> *test nick reg*
14:34 < klocwerk> oh hai.
14:37 < Kayofeld> Reverend: negociations are done between current and next boss
14:37 < Kayofeld> to break my contract
14:37 < Kayofeld> but thanks :D
14:39 <+AnonymooseWork> vinrock - no ports being blocked outbound?
14:39 <+AnonymooseWork> vinrock - also you can go into the properties of the device in unifi manager and do a manual upgrade by pasting the URL of the firmware?
14:40 <+AnonymooseWork> Sousapro yep - now that the trunking is sorted radius is working DHCP is working
14:40 <+AnonymooseWork> its authenticating via AD Users at the moment
14:40 <+AnonymooseWork> I may change to use computer certificates later but for now that works
14:41 < Wannabejrsysadm> well rip
14:41 < Wannabejrsysadm> my DHCP on my second dchp server doens't work :p
14:44 < Trapdoor> ha ha ha
14:44 < Trapdoor> it is friday my dudes
14:46 < Wannabejrsysadm> haha
14:46 < Wannabejrsysadm> found it
14:47 < Wannabejrsysadm> i could do replicate faiilover scope
14:48 < vinrock> AnonymooseWork: nah no blocked ports, dns working fine logged into device's cli
14:48 < _Straffer> my duuuuuuuuuuudes
14:48 < vinrock> im about to try a manual upgrade to see what happens
14:48 < _Straffer> Anyone using Maas360?
14:49 < humpaxx> vinrock: Godspeed
14:49 < humpaxx> and good luck
14:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> mornin fellas
14:51 < humpaxx> McD Wifi what is up my dude?
14:51 < Trapdoor> oops
14:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> humpaxx: ayyyy
14:51 < Trapdoor> accidentally subscribed to /r/MassiveTitsnAss
14:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> humpaxx: you know man, the usual. what about you?
14:52 < Nightcinder> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/04/waze-blamed-for-rise-in-accidents-along-one-of-steepest-streets-in-us
14:52 < Nightcinder> 32% grade
14:52 < Nightcinder> that's terrifying in the winter lol
14:53 < _Straffer> Trapdoor: "Massive". That's the best part of what you said
14:53 < Trapdoor> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/04/retards-blamed-for-rise-in-accidents-along-one-of-steepest-streets-in-us
14:53 < humpaxx> McDonaldsWiFi: Trying to figure out why the XP machine i P2Ved is so damn slow and counting the minutes until the workday is over
14:53 < humpaxx> Right now its 126 minutes
14:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> _Straffer: as opposed to Large or Big
14:53 < Trapdoor> hi humpaxx
14:53 < _Straffer> humpaxx: P2V?
14:53 < Trapdoor> pay to view
14:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> humpaxx: Oh you in the EU?
14:53 < humpaxx> Physical to Virtual
14:53 < humpaxx> McDonaldsWiFi: Im in the Swedens
14:53 < coderphive> I like how people complain about through traffic when in fact that's what those roads are made for
14:54 < Trapdoor> lol humpaxx your country is so poor
14:54 < Trapdoor> love, Norway
14:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> shots fired
14:54 < _Straffer> ducks
14:54 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: not all roads are made for THROUGH traffic
14:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> who is the biggest neck beard of the EU? Trapdoor, humpaxx, or Hatsjoe
14:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> my vote is Hatsjoe
14:54 < Trapdoor> I can't grow a beard
14:54 < coderphive> a large majority of them are JollyRgrs
14:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> you can be a beardless neckbeard you know
14:55 < _Straffer> guy that sits across from me is eating "buffalo tuna" for breakfast
14:55 < coderphive> cities have traffic plans they have to draw up. Roads that interconnect cities, highways, etc
14:55 < _Straffer> fml
14:55 < vinrock> hm
14:55 < vinrock> that sounds kinda tasty
14:55 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: depends.... most "inside-the-neighborhood" roads are really meant just to have the neighborhood traffic go through as people go to their house, not as a shortcut between blvds
14:55 < _Straffer> it might be
14:55 < coderphive> Right
14:55 < Trapdoor> McDonaldsWiFi, idk man I'm introverted but I wouldn't say socially inept or physically unappealing
14:56 < Trapdoor> maybe a touch of the 'tism but that's about it
14:56 < humpaxx> Trapdoor: Do you have the new Marabou chocolate in norway? the one with cocos?
14:56 < McDonaldsWiFi> Trapdoor: I'm jk anyways, I'm sorry
14:56 < coderphive> Every time I see Google Maps or Waze in the news, those aren't the roads people are talking about JollyRgrs
14:56 < Trapdoor> thanks McDonaldsWiFi it's ok
14:56 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: that i will agree with
14:56 < Trapdoor> We don't, humpaxx
14:56 <@JollyRgrs> though i've seen one or two in the news that went through a neighborhood
14:56 < McDonaldsWiFi> rumor has it that JollyRgrs is moving to Canada
14:56 <@JollyRgrs> haha, nope
14:56 < Trapdoor> The only cocos chocolate we have is Bounty afaik
14:56 <@JollyRgrs> been there, not wanting to stay there
14:57 < vinrock> trapdoor what's the traditional gross rotting fish the people of norway eat?
14:57 < humpaxx> Trapdoor: I´ll pray for you
14:57 <@JollyRgrs> bounty? as in paper towels?
14:57 < coderphive> The real underlying problem in that article is that California and LA notoriously have no water drainage
14:57 < Trapdoor> vinrock, that's not the Norwegian fish
14:57 < vinrock> oh i just assumed norway had one too
14:57 < Trapdoor> Norway has Lutefisk, Sweden has S
14:57 < Trapdoor> Sürstromming
14:57 < coderphive> where in Texas we collect rain water nearly as soon as it hits the ground
14:57 < vinrock> ah ok lutefisk
14:57 < humpaxx> surströming
14:57 < vinrock> surstromming is sweden i think?
14:57 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: otherwise you'd have texas flooding
14:57 < vinrock> im dying to try it
14:57 < coderphive> truuu
14:57 < vinrock> dont wana pay $40 for a can tho
14:57 < Trapdoor> Lutefisk is fish prepared in lye
14:58 < humpaxx> vinrock: you´ll die trying it
14:58 < vinrock> nah i know how to properly eat that kinda food
14:58 < Trapdoor> I don't get it, surströmming isn't that bad
14:58 < vinrock> flatbread, sour cream, dill, etc
14:58 <@JollyRgrs> vinrock: by holding your nose?
14:58 < vinrock> youre not supposed to pick it out of the can like a wad of snot
14:58 < vinrock> its gotta be deskinned and done on flatbread
14:58 < Trapdoor> ^^
14:58 < coderphive> Time to see what Twitter is mad about this morning
14:58 < coderphive> read only friday amirite?
14:58 < Trapdoor> If you eat blue cheese, you shouldn't have any qualms about eating surströmming
14:59 < vinrock> i love that kinda stuff
14:59 < vinrock> also dyin to try that icelandic rotten shark
14:59 < Trapdoor> If you don't eat blue cheese, you're an uncultured swine
14:59 < Trapdoor> Ah yea, hakarl
14:59 < Trapdoor> shark fermented in its own piss
14:59 < vinrock> heh yeah i heard it reeks
14:59 < vinrock> but super nice in the mouf
15:00 < Trapdoor> Tried Lutfisk?
15:00 < vinrock> nah we dont have it around here
15:00 < Trapdoor> humpaxx, you?
15:00 < vinrock> up in i think minnesota area theres a huge population of nordic peoples and its common there only
15:00 < Trapdoor> oh for sure vinrock
15:00 < Trapdoor> Lutefisk is pretty dope
15:01 < vinrock> its on my gota try list too
15:01 < Trapdoor> It doesn't really taste of anything
15:01 < vinrock> surstromming tho... im gona pull the trigger and order a can sometime soon
15:01 < Trapdoor> Lutefisk is served with mashed peas, bacon, goat cheese etc
15:01 < coderphive> What do you call a cheese expert?
15:01 < coderphive> a cheesologist?
15:01 < Trapdoor> affineur
15:01 < Trapdoor> Depends on what kind of "expert" you're talking of
15:02 < Trapdoor> affineurs specifically deal with the aging process of the cheese
15:02 < coderphive> but what about cheese pairings?
15:02 < coderphive> cheese flavor profiles matter
15:02 < humpaxx> Trapdoor: Im not a fan of the fish
15:02 < vinrock> ohh ive got a cheese on the gotta try it list
15:02 < vinrock> gotta try some of that italian maggot cheese
15:02 <@JollyRgrs> ...
15:02 < Trapdoor> Oh shit, see if you can get some Kraftkar vinrock
15:03 <@JollyRgrs> vinrock: do they make it become swiss-cheese?
15:03 < coderphive> maggot cheese?
15:03 < coderphive> wat
15:03 < Trapdoor> JollyRgrs, the maggots are still in the cheese
15:03 <@JollyRgrs> ...
15:03 < coderphive> ehhh
15:03 < Trapdoor> But seriously, if you like blue cheese you have to try Kraftkar
15:03 <@JollyRgrs> get out of here
15:03 < vinrock> from what ive seen its like, buttery inside from the maggots eating and pooping cheese all their lives
15:03 < coderphive> hold on
15:03 < coderphive> can we pause
15:03 < coderphive> time out
15:03 < coderphive> there are maggots in the cheese?
15:03 <@JollyRgrs> like, srsly vinrock, get out of here
15:03 < Trapdoor> coderphive, you uncultured swine
15:03 < coderphive> you can't just gloss over that
15:03 < humpaxx> 107 minutes now
15:03 < coderphive> like, who are you
15:04 <@JollyRgrs> humpaxx: of uptime? congrats :P
15:04 < vinrock> i aint shittin ya its illegal af and the italians in that region still eat it traditionally because its so good
15:04 < vinrock> theres like
15:04 < vinrock> cheese bootleggers there for this stuff
15:04 < Trapdoor> what no humpaxx it's 116 minutes right?
15:04 < humpaxx> JollyRgrs: left of the workday :p
15:04 <@JollyRgrs> lol
15:04 < vinrock> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casu_marzu
15:04 < humpaxx> Trapdoor: I like to leave early :D
15:04 < Trapdoor> When disturbed, the larvae can launch themselves for distances up to 15 cm (6 in).
15:04 <@JollyRgrs> the first one that tried it...
15:04 <@JollyRgrs> "dang, my cheese went bad"
15:04 < vinrock> lol trapdoor it has penicillin in it
15:04 < vinrock> i was so down but im allergic af to that
15:04 <@JollyRgrs> "wait, you think it is too bad or could i still eat it?"
15:05 < Trapdoor> Don't all cultured cheeses have penicillin in it?
15:05 <@JollyRgrs> "dude! i dare you to try it!"
15:05 < coderphive> that is disgusting
15:05 <@JollyRgrs> "but it has maggots in it!!"
15:05 <@JollyRgrs> "I TRIPLE DOG DARE YOU!"
15:05 < vinrock> i dont think so ive never broken out in hives from any cheese
15:05 <@JollyRgrs> "damnit... /sigh... ok"
15:05 < coderphive> that looks like stale mashed potatoes
15:05 < Trapdoor> vinrock, aight if you like blue cheese you should look into Kraftkar
15:05 < Trapdoor> I can't repeat it enough lol
15:05 < vinrock> yeah it looks delicious i just gotta find out before i try it if its gona fuck me up
15:05 <@JollyRgrs> ... When disturbed, the larvae can launch themselves for distances up to 15 cm (6 in). Some people clear the larvae from the cheese before consuming while others do not.
15:06 < Trapdoor> It's a Norwegian blue cheese that won the "cheese of the year" award in 2016
15:06 < Trapdoor> Not only did it win the blue cheese class, it won the whole thing
15:06 <@JollyRgrs> puts mexican jumping beans to shame
15:06 < Trapdoor> Not only did it win the blue cheese and cheese of the year, that same year they did a "best cheese of the past 50 years" award, and it went to the same cheese lol
15:06 < asimon> You know
15:06 < vinrock> man you ever had mexican jumping beans?
15:06 < asimon> I like cheese
15:06 < vinrock> theyre like magical
15:06 < asimon> but that's just not worth it
15:06 < Trapdoor> I had to wait 4 months on a waiting list to get the cheese
15:06 < asimon> Also good morning
15:06 <@JollyRgrs> The acid from the maggots' digestive system breaks down the cheese's fats,[4] making the texture of the cheese very soft; by the time it is ready for consumption, a typical casu marzu will contain thousands of these maggots.
15:07 < coderphive> yo
15:07 < coderphive> lmao
15:07 < coderphive> Casu marzu is believed to be an aphrodisiac by Sardinians
15:07 < Trapdoor> JollyRgrs, the majority of the nutrients in your food comes from poop
15:07 < Trapdoor> so...
15:07 < coderphive> "Wanna fuck? We just ate maggots."
15:07 < coderphive> "Yeah, we're both disgusting anyway"
15:07 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: heck yeah!
15:07 <@JollyRgrs> lol
15:07 < Trapdoor> In fact, all we eat is poop
15:07 < Trapdoor> Fuck it, we are poop
15:08 < vinrock> literal shitlers
15:08 < Trapdoor> We eat poop and the sun
15:08 <@JollyRgrs> Trapdoor: that's just a slippery slope
15:08 <@JollyRgrs> my college prof. taught me to avoid those conversations
15:08 < Trapdoor> poop is slippery
15:08 < coderphive> this cheese reminds me of my college coding projects.
15:08 <@JollyRgrs> Trapdoor: depends on the poop
15:08 < Trapdoor> full of bugs coderphive?
15:08 < coderphive> si
15:08 < Trapdoor> lol
15:08 < coderphive> zing
15:08 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: you left your coding project out in the sun to let bugs get in?
15:09 < coderphive> bugs fermented my code
15:09 <@JollyRgrs> wait, that reminds me of the NSA and open source projects
15:09 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: the bugs make it better!
15:09 < coderphive> features
15:09 <@JollyRgrs> shorty's gonna be a thug
15:09 < coderphive> lmao
15:09 < coderphive> shorty's gonna be a bug
15:09 < Trapdoor> you too humpaxx if you can get Kraftkar anywhere, try it
15:10 < vinrock> ok trapdoor i think kraftkar miiiight be available here... but apparently its like, sold by the wheel only?
15:10 < Trapdoor> buy more norwegian shit
15:10 < vinrock> and a wheel is about $`1,000
15:10 < coderphive> =|
15:10 < Trapdoor> vinrock, shouldn't be, you should be able to buy chunks
15:10 < coderphive> $1000 cheese?
15:10 < vinrock> yeah thats some expensive fuckin cheese
15:10 < Trapdoor> A wheel of cheese is a lot of fucking cheese coderphive
15:10 < vinrock> yeah like 10kg
15:10 < coderphive> Guys
15:10 < Hatsjoe> McDonaldsWiFi: fuck you
15:10 < coderphive> I do keto and everything
15:10 < coderphive> I love my cheese
15:10 < Trapdoor> try 40 vinrock
15:10 < coderphive> but $1000?
15:10 < Trapdoor> A wheel of parmigiano is 40kg
15:10 < vinrock> lol cheese wheels weight that much
15:10 < coderphive> I'll take pepperjack plz
15:10 < vinrock> thats nuts
15:11 < vinrock> no wonder people always get fucked up in that cheese wheel roll
15:11 <@JollyRgrs> can anyone here tell me if it is chmod -w * friday? i can't tell
15:11 < Hatsjoe> its r--r--r-- friday alright
15:11 < coderphive> It's immutable friday
15:11 < Trapdoor> it's chown -R null:null /* friday
15:12 < McDonaldsWiFi> Hatsjoe: love you too
15:12 < Trapdoor> vinrock, got a link to the Kraftkar listing?
15:12 < vinrock> i just found a seller on ebay with it
15:12 <@JollyRgrs> oh... anyone heard the new hall and oats song?
15:12 < Trapdoor> lol holy shit
15:12 <@JollyRgrs> *oates
15:12 < Hatsjoe> McDonaldsWiFi: <3
15:12 < vinrock> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tingvollost-kraftkar-1800g-Blue-cheese-Winner-of-World-Cheese-Awards-2016-/253092493878?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10
15:12 < coderphive> today our PM wants to redesign her Jira workflows so that she can move tasks to whatever status she wants from whenever she wants, removing all process flow and accountability guards
15:12 < Hatsjoe> McDonaldsWiFi: sup buddy?
15:12 < vinrock> $300 for 1.8kg wheel
15:12 < coderphive> I was like, "aight. go nuts"
15:12 < Trapdoor> But yea, it's about $100 a kilo vinrock
15:12 < McDonaldsWiFi> Hatsjoe: same shit! what about you
15:13 < Hatsjoe> Not much, busy building up a new AWS environment from scratch for $new_client
15:13 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGMDKNSQC44
15:13 <+layer-eight> YouTube Daryl Hall & John Oates, Train - Philly Forget Me Not by 2018-03-30T04:00:01.000Z (duration: 2:39) on Fri Mar 30 11:00:01 UTC 2018, 2018-03-30T04:00:01.000Z views
15:13 < coderphive> I also sent out an organization email saying she owns Jira now
15:13 < coderphive> lmao
15:14 < coderphive> and now I'm checked out
15:14 < Trapdoor> Switchboard called me up yesterday, apparently F-Secure called to talk about Salesforce
15:14 < Trapdoor> Told em to fuck off
15:14 < Trapdoor> I couldn't a rat's ass about salesforce
15:14 < coderphive> Salesforce
15:15 < coderphive> I literally saw a job title at this conference of "Salesforce Engineer"
15:15 < Trapdoor> fuck oracle
15:15 < Trapdoor> fuck microsoft
15:15 < Trapdoor> fuck salesforce
15:15 < coderphive> I'm tired of the engineer title being butt-fucked
15:16 < Trapdoor> I was in a meeting about a new erp system a couple of weeks ago, I asked them what database they supported
15:17 < Trapdoor> Fucking
15:17 < Trapdoor> oracle
15:17 < coderphive> Sick
15:17 < Trapdoor> fuck oracle
15:17 < coderphive> Sounds like a great business plan
15:17 < coderphive> "What data stores should we select"
15:17 < Trapdoor> They support mssql too, thank god
15:17 < coderphive> "Well, probably the one with the worst licensing that indicates you're not allowed to benchmark it."
15:18 < coderphive> "Cool, get on that Joe."
15:18 < coderphive> "Let's also find a company that absorbs open source tech and then doesn't respect the licensing"
15:19 < coderphive> "Well, they're actually the same company."
15:19 < coderphive> Larry Ellison is a fucking lawnmower.
15:19 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Help a non-SQL guy out, Why do so many people shit on Oracle's Database? I mean, if it really was that bad, you'd think no one would actually use it ... and I see that shit everywhere?
15:20 < Trapdoor> SysAdminGoneCraZ, fuck oracle
15:20 < coderphive> Technically speaking it's not bad SysAdminGoneCraZ
15:20 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> I'm genuinely asking though.
15:20 < Trapdoor> Alright, it's their licensing scheme
15:20 < coderphive> The problem stands with Oracle's licensing model and their TOS
15:20 < Trapdoor> Also Oracle bought Sun in a hostile takeover and ran everything Sun did well into the ground
15:21 < coderphive> The licensing is a growing and infinite cost which charges for support that's hardly delivered
15:21 < Trapdoor> Then there's java
15:21 < coderphive> the TOS has restrictions that make it so you can't benchmark the DB
15:21 < coderphive> then Oracle as a company has bought company that open sourced software and attempted to close source it
15:21 < Trapdoor> MySQL?
15:21 < coderphive> basically equivalent to software racketeering
15:22 < Trapdoor> Oracle's base licensing is per core as well
15:22 < coderphive> Trapdoor think more ZFS
15:22 < coderphive> Trapdoor so is redhat's though
15:22 < estranger> +1 to oracles licensing to being a source of hate
15:22 < Trapdoor> Yea but not for an entire VM infrastructure?
15:22 < Trapdoor> Oracle doesn't give a shit that the VM is limited to 1 core
15:22 < coderphive> Yes it is, to my knowledge
15:22 < Trapdoor> You have to buy a license for every single core in the VM cluster
15:22 < coderphive> yeap
15:23 < SynMonger> lolwut
15:23 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> wow
15:23 < Trapdoor> jesus fucking christ
15:23 < Trapdoor> If you disable vmotion and deny the VM rights to migrate, you still have to pay for every single core
15:23 < coderphive> This is from 2010 but when I checked last year not much had changed: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/12/redhat_rhel6_package_pricing/
15:23 < Trapdoor> My VM cluster has 144 cores, they wanted $150,000 a year to run a single database for an hour registration system
15:24 < Trapdoor> For 15 users
15:24 < SynMonger> I guess they think virtualization is a fad
15:24 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Trapdoor, Holy shit
15:24 < coderphive> SynMonger no, Larry Ellison just cares about money
15:24 < Trapdoor> Yea, I had to fight them for a week until they told me there's a "named user" licensing scheme
15:24 < coderphive> Don't ever try to think about Oracle logically
15:24 < Trapdoor> for $50 per user per yaer
15:24 < coderphive> It's all about money
15:25 <@Code_Man65> You may rejoice for Friday has arrived
15:25 < tapoxi> any of you motherfuckers goin to pax
15:25 < coderphive> what's that
15:25 < felda> email got spoofed.  "hey felda do something on the firewall about it" sure whatever *GEOBLOCKS EVERYWHERE EXCEPT USA DOMAINS AND IPS*
15:25 < felda> that oughta do it
15:26 < tapoxi> the game/videogame convention
15:26 < tapoxi> well expo
15:26 < tapoxi> not convention
15:26 < tapoxi> conventions are serious
15:26 < coderphive> One of the more lol-points of Redhat: https://www.redhat.com/f/pdf/rhev/final2.2/DOC210_RHEV_DesktopPricing_QuickGuide_2819367_0610_cw_web.pdf
15:26 < humpaxx> felda: Bold move, lets see how it plays out
15:26 < felda> yes lets
15:26 < coderphive> If you have a desktop that can spin up virtual machines, you technically need to pay them agaon
15:27 < felda> "felda why are you blocking advertisements I like to click on the top links on google and bing" -_-
15:27 < felda> boy
15:27  * SynMonger takes out adblock bat
15:27 < SynMonger> you gon' learn today
15:27 < coderphive> so all of you RedHat fanboys, that's why I judge you
15:28 < felda> I can block ads at the firewall level using DNS blocking and they still want to see that shit
15:28 < felda> I don't get it
15:28 < tapoxi> coderphive: I mean I just use the free version
15:28 < coderphive> "I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT MY SUPPORT"
15:28 < tapoxi> I'm still a redhat fanboy though
15:28 < tapoxi> they're so dreamy
15:28 < coderphive> I just dislike the notion that engineers rely on a support program for linux
15:28 < coderphive> That's onerous to me
15:29 < coderphive> but, I guess not everyone is an engineer so argument broken
15:29 < Trapdoor> <felda> email got spoofed.  "hey felda do something on the firewall about it" sure whatever *GEOBLOCKS EVERYWHERE EXCEPT USA DOMAINS AND IPS*
15:29 < tapoxi> yeah if you're doing crazy kernel level shit or need help with openstack I can see it
15:29 < Trapdoor> you can't
15:29 < Trapdoor> it's friday
15:29 < felda> nah fam all my changes go out friday
15:29 < coderphive> tapoxi nah
15:29 < Trapdoor> wow what felda?
15:29 < coderphive> tapoxi I do that shit with Debian all day
15:29 < tapoxi> felda: prod deploy @ 2pm bby!
15:29 < coderphive> tapoxi lrn2debug
15:29 < asimon> coderphive: Some of the engineers at my company are so surprisingly clueless about tech
15:29 < felda> I'm kidding I hate all my users and changes go out whenever I feel like it
15:29 < coderphive> That's crazy
15:30 < asimon> You may be a smart person but that doesn't mean you know how to use a computer
15:30 < coderphive> asimon systems engineering is a difficult discipline
15:30 < coderphive> asimon very true
15:30 < coderphive> I spend a lot of time fucking around with the kernel and stap
15:30 < coderphive> You can see whatever you want
15:30 < tapoxi> coderphive: well I mean having a kernel engineer available to you when you're doing prod shit works sometimes. the only places I've worked that actually paid for rhel are an iot saas and a large telecom
15:30 < Nightcinder> this doesn't seem right https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/AUVuv82s/image.png
15:30 < coderphive> not like there's a lack of books on the linux subsystem either
15:31 < ebol4> what's the point of paying for RHEL exactly
15:31 <@JollyRgrs> support
15:31 < tapoxi> making suits feel good about support
15:31 < coderphive> tapoxi interesting
15:31 <@JollyRgrs> if you find a bug, they'll fix it with priority
15:31 < ebol4> just use debian stable, there's never a bug
15:31 <@JollyRgrs> also yes, suites say "do you have support? no? we can't have that in prod!"
15:31 < coderphive> JollyRgrs a ridiculous 90's notion
15:32 < coderphive> I'll run debian in prod til I die
15:32 < coderphive> how bow da?
15:32 < SynMonger> you do you
15:32 < tapoxi> I switched from debian
15:32 < ebol4> debian is love
15:32 < tapoxi> I saw the light and it was a red hat
15:32 < coderphive> nah
15:32 < estranger> tapoxi, how do you feel about msft buying redhat?
15:32 < coderphive> you entered that dark valley tapoxi
15:32 < ebol4> the valley where i harvest my grain
15:33 < tapoxi> estranger: I own stock in MS oddly enough so I'd be totally for it
15:33 < coderphive> debian ftw
15:33 < estranger> yeah  man I think it should happen
15:33 < coderphive> that'd be so lol
15:33 < coderphive> can we talk about 8GB windows containers?
15:33 < estranger> itd be great
15:33 < tapoxi> dear microsoft sell xbox to valve and buy redhat
15:33 < ebol4> xbox turn off
15:33 < onicrom> ello ello
15:33 <@JollyRgrs> lol
15:33 <@JollyRgrs> tapoxi: you really think that is a good idea?
15:33 < ebol4> onicrom turn off
15:33 < tapoxi> JollyRgrs: which
15:33 < onicrom> huh
15:33 <@JollyRgrs> they'll just turn around and sell it to FB (xbox)
15:34 < ebol4> xbox go home
15:34 < coderphive> FB xbox
15:34 < coderphive> lmao
15:34 < SynMonger> facebox one
15:34 < coderphive> plz do this
15:34 < ebol4> doesn't the xbox already have facebook
15:34 < SynMonger> with oculus rift
15:34 < ebol4> would be extremely surprised if it did not
15:34 < coderphive> "facebox, how big is my wang?"
15:34 < tapoxi> JollyRgrs: valve keeps fucking up steam machines, microsoft keeps fucking up xbox
15:34 < coderphive> "The biggest"
15:34 < coderphive> "Thank you facebox"
15:35 < coderphive> "Now let's play fortnite"
15:35 < humpaxx> Is DLink APs something you guys would concider when building an office wireless network?
15:35 < tapoxi> DRINK A VERIFICATION CAN TO CONTINUE https://imgur.com/r/4chan/dgGvgKF
15:35 < coderphive> humpaxx we use ubiquiti
15:35 < humpaxx> Or is it UBNT/Aruba/cisco ?
15:35 < estranger> s/when building an office wireless network//
15:35 <+layer-eight> humpaxx meant: "Is DLink APs something you guys would concider ?"
15:35 < estranger> no
15:35 < coderphive> con cider
15:35 < Trapdoor> Dlink lol
15:35 < corn266> Any idea if I can install a graphics driver on redhat but continue to use the default? Specifically NIVIDIA
15:36 < onicrom> humpaxx: i really really like the aruba stuff, they arent much more expneisve but so many features
15:36 < tapoxi> coderphive: are they really 8gb
15:36 < ebol4> corn266: yeah, just blacklist the nvidia driver
15:36 < coderphive> tapoxi yes
15:36 < onicrom> and they density they support is much much better humpaxx
15:36 < tapoxi> coderphive: how the fuck
15:36 < onicrom> i had density issues with unifi, upgraded to aruba
15:36 < coderphive> tapoxi https://hub.docker.com/r/microsoft/windowsservercore/tags/
15:36 < tapoxi> windows containers sounds like a shitshow
15:36 < coderphive> Their compressed size is 8GB
15:36 < coderphive> sorry, 5GB. They've recently trimmed some fat.
15:37 < ebol4> we used to use ruckus and their central management appliance is absolute shit
15:37 < humpaxx> I only ask because we do a lot of D-link and it seems the pro´s avoid their stuff like consumers should avoid their consumer items
15:37 < coderphive> I've had a lot of success with UBNT
15:37 < coderphive> Just don't get their USG
15:37 < coderphive> it sucks
15:37 < coderphive> EdgeRouter Pro doe? winning.
15:38 < tapoxi> coderphive: I thought nanoserver was supposed to be their alpineish minimal image
15:38 < estranger> we got production supported docker images coming.. THAT should be fun, glad im not in support
15:38 < coderphive> tapoxi maybe
15:38 < tapoxi> hey uh dumb question, how the fuck do you exec into a failing k8s container without k8s killing it
15:38 < coderphive> tapoxi you don't
15:38 < tapoxi> do I need to manually run docker ssh'd into a host?
15:38 < coderphive> tapoxi pull logs
15:39 < tapoxi> god damnit
15:39 < coderphive> I assume that's what you're trying to do
15:39 < tapoxi> no
15:39 < coderphive> tapoxi or just like a normal load balancer remove the kill criteria for the container
15:39 < tapoxi> does that apply from the deployment level?
15:39 < coderphive> yes
15:39 < coderphive> There's some defaults
15:40 < coderphive> if you don't specify them
15:40 < coderphive> Basically like normal docker
15:40 < tapoxi> ugh I guess I'll just run it as a job
15:40 < coderphive> Ideally you should debug container images outside Kubernetes
15:40 < coderphive> or debug them on minikube
15:41 < coderphive> Kubernetes is an orchestrator first and foremost
15:41 < coderphive> tapoxi even their nano server is 500MB
15:41 < coderphive> that's huge
15:41 < tapoxi> yeah thats the downside of running into issues only in prod
15:42 < coderphive> I would figure out why your environments are different and normalize them
15:42 < coderphive> stage should be identical to prod in functionality
15:42 < tapoxi> using gke services vs minikube
15:42 < coderphive> ah, yeah, can't do that
15:42 < tapoxi> the dream is dead
15:42 < coderphive> That's where namespaces are handy
15:43 < tapoxi> all these containers and prod still doesnt match staging
15:43 < coderphive> dev namespace, prod namespace, etc
15:43 < tapoxi> cant
15:43 < coderphive> Why?
15:43 < tapoxi> HIPPA
15:43 < tapoxi> prod is completely isolated
15:43 < coderphive> So start up a different account and seperate them
15:44 < coderphive> GCP also support total project isolation that lines up with HIPPA
15:44 < tapoxi> yeah they're different projects
15:44 < coderphive> Then you should be fine
15:44 < tapoxi> but I mean they're not sharing a k8s cluster
15:44 < tapoxi> there's 3 k8s clusters + minikube
15:44 < coderphive> Do you stand up and configure your k8s clusters with terraform?
15:45 < tapoxi> gcloud api
15:45 < tapoxi> terraform supports gke?
15:45 < coderphive> I believe so
15:45 < tapoxi> fuck yea
15:45 < coderphive> GKE is just kubernetes
15:45 < tapoxi> the app I'm moving over to helm
15:45 < coderphive> as long as you can access with the kubectl cli you should be fine
15:46 < coderphive> that's all that terraform module hits
15:46 < coderphive> Helm definitely helps standardize things
15:46 < coderphive> Terraform keeps your infra and config in line
15:46 < tapoxi> yeah im totally digging into this
15:47 < coderphive> I treat Kubernetes like any other cloud provider
15:47  * estranger hands tapoxi a shovel
15:47 < coderphive> it's basically a mini-cloud if you break it down
15:47 < tapoxi> yeah I did salt-cloud before so I never dug into terraform
15:48 < tapoxi> now I get to use estranger's shovel
15:48 < coderphive> Terraform definitely leans more towards immutable infra
15:48 < estranger> being cloud agnostic ftw
15:49 < estranger> i got the best tool.
15:49 < tapoxi> sysdig?
15:50 < estranger> |
15:51 < coderphive> I'm hungry
15:51 < coderphive> bye
15:52 < mkillebrew> I haven't had the opportunity to use salt cloud yet, tried to push it a couple jobs ago
15:53 < mkillebrew> salt though, amazing
15:53 < tapoxi> salt-cloud is okay, I like how I just had everything in one salt repo
15:53 < humpaxx> Trapdoor: 60 minutes.
15:53 < Trapdoor> 67 here
15:54 < Trapdoor> starting to get excited
15:54 < humpaxx> My teamlead keeps setting unreasonable deadlines for tickets and then on monday meetings we get chewed for not meeting them
15:54 <@JollyRgrs> humpaxx: what's an example of that?
15:54 < vinrock> ive got this application that wont scale with a manifest file
15:54 < vinrock> wat do
15:54 <@JollyRgrs> vinrock: ask company to use a diff application
15:54 < Trapdoor> vinrock, fix it on monday?
15:54 <@JollyRgrs> ezpz
15:54 < vinrock> ive got 4k monitors and gotta bury my fuckin face in the thing to use this garbage app
15:54 < humpaxx> JollyRgrs: Well mainly for things that relies on this specific external supplier (they manage access to mailboxes and stuff)
15:55 < vinrock> or i can use the manifier like an old geezer but that thing is annoying af
15:55 <@JollyRgrs> vinrock: rude!
15:55 < vinrock> blame samsung
15:55 <@JollyRgrs> i don't say that about your mother... its just rude
15:55 < vinrock> YOUR MOTHER WAS A SNOWBLOWER
15:55 < humpaxx> JollyRgrs: they have like 1 or two guys working a queue that seem to be growing quite fast by the look of the ticket number that i assume is sequential
15:55 < SynMonger> let us break wind!
15:56 < humpaxx> Two days ago i had so few tickets that i didnt even have to scroll too see them all
15:56 < humpaxx> now.. ugh. depressing!
15:56 < tapoxi> mkillebrew: I think I used https://github.com/saltstack-formulas/salt-formula
15:58 < Wannabejrsysadm> Guys
15:58 < Wannabejrsysadm> https://www.screencast.com/t/D5SJKQOAzy
15:58 < Wannabejrsysadm> how do i turn on DHCP Server tools
15:58 < Wannabejrsysadm> dhcp role is installed
15:58 < Wannabejrsysadm> but no managment tools :/
15:59 < Trapdoor> uh wut?
16:00 < Trapdoor> what're you trying to do Wannabejrsysadm?
16:00 < Wannabejrsysadm> DHCP server tools is not installed
16:00 < Wannabejrsysadm> but the DHCP server role is
16:00 < Trapdoor> s/what're you trying to do/why're you doing stuff on a friday
16:00 <+layer-eight> Trapdoor meant: "why're you doing stuff on a friday Wannabejrsysadm?"
16:00 < Trapdoor> Wannabejrsysadm, what os?
16:00 < Wannabejrsysadm> cuz i was home yesterday
16:00 < GrandWizardZippy> whats good guys?
16:00 < Wannabejrsysadm> i have a double EYE infection
16:00 < Wannabejrsysadm> like both eyes are hit
16:00 < Trapdoor> you should probably stay home then
16:01 < Wannabejrsysadm> its k
16:01 < Wannabejrsysadm> just can't wear my lenzes
16:01 < GrandWizardZippy> Wannabejrsysadm: that sounds like alot of fun
16:01 < Wannabejrsysadm> have to wear my 10 year old glasses
16:01 < DrGibby|> Wannabejrsysadm: just put an x in that box
16:01 < Trapdoor> you have an excuse to stay home why wouldn't you just stay home
16:01 < Wannabejrsysadm> everyone thinks i look like a real nerd now
16:01 < Wannabejrsysadm> Cuz i like working ? Trapdoor
16:01 < Wannabejrsysadm> :P
16:01 < Wannabejrsysadm> DrGibby| tried wtih a pencil
16:01 < Trapdoor> Wannabejrsysadm, https://i.imgur.com/0JSdLHV.png
16:02 < Trapdoor> I fixed it
16:02 < Trapdoor> 5 seconds in paint
16:02 < DrGibby|> Trapdoor+++
16:02 < GrandWizardZippy> Wannabejrsysadm: i like working too however any cvhance i get to stay home i take that shit
16:02 < Wannabejrsysadm> Install state: AVAILABLE
16:02 < Trapdoor> oops forgot something
16:02 < Wannabejrsysadm> you noob
16:02 < Wannabejrsysadm> anyway i'm off for the weekend
16:02 < Wannabejrsysadm> 'il search next week
16:02 < Wannabejrsysadm> thnx for the help dorks
16:02 < Wannabejrsysadm> bubaaaii
16:02 < Trapdoor> https://i.imgur.com/5V4yWDN.png
16:02 < Trapdoor> fixed it
16:03 < vavkamil> any idea if I can somehow turn off "cell updates" in libre office calc?
16:04 < vavkamil> working with big document that freezes while I'm trying to delete some columns
16:04 < arlion> I swear I am going to alias "l s-al" to ls -al
16:05 < vavkamil> it's "Choose Data - Calculate - AutoCalculate"
16:05 < GrandWizardZippy> https://help.libreoffice.org/Calc/AutoCalculate
16:05 < GrandWizardZippy> vavkamil: nvm you figured it out
16:06 < DrGibby|> arlion: I always alias shitdown to shutdown
16:06 < DrGibby|> and snapshit to snapshot
16:06 < arlion> DrGibby|: that's a funny one
16:06 < ebol4> alias ls and cd to shutdown
16:06 < ebol4> but make it like
16:06 < arlion> DrGibby|: do you know the utility "fuck"
16:06 < arlion> or rather, "The fuck"
16:06 < GrandWizardZippy> how about alias ls to rm -rf /
16:06 < DrGibby|> arlion: yeah, I kinda remember it
16:06 < coderphive> does that mean that my cisco command for interfaces can be "no shit"
16:06 < vavkamil> GrandWizardZippy, thanks anyway, I wasn't sure what keyword to google
16:07 < DrGibby|> coderphive: ofc
16:07 < arlion> DrGibby|: https://github.com/nvbn/thefuck
16:07 < GrandWizardZippy> arlion: the fuck is awesome
16:07 < ebol4> alias ls="echo 'SEGMENTATION FAULT! KERNEL PAGE ERROR, SHUTTING DOWN...';shutdown -r now"
16:07 < coderphive> arlion or you could use zsh
16:07 < coderphive> which does the same thing in line with tab completion
16:07 < coderphive> loser
16:07 < DrGibby|> arlion: ah yes I forgot about this
16:08 < arlion> coderphive: I do use zsh
16:08  * coderphive says loser in the nerdiest way
16:08 < GrandWizardZippy> arlion: is zsh worth it?
16:08 < arlion> coderphive: with oh-my-zsh plugin
16:08 < arlion> GrandWizardZippy: totally
16:08 < coderphive> ah
16:08 < arlion> tab heaven
16:08 < coderphive> zsh is the best
16:08 < coderphive> both coding and systems wise
16:08 < arlion> GrandWizardZippy: I can tab to man pages and the autocompletion is way better than bash
16:08 < GrandWizardZippy> ive gotten bash down pretty good, is it a bit learning curve?
16:08 < coderphive> nope
16:08 < humpaxx> Trapdoor: Almost there now, less than an hour. Stay strong!
16:09 < ebol4> they're both just extensions of sh
16:09 < coderphive> zsh still uses bash syntax
16:09 < arlion> a little learning the shortcuts, but it's exactly the same as bash
16:09 < GrandWizardZippy> you can go back and forth right?
16:09 < coderphive> just better functionality
16:09 < arlion> zsh is very peculiar about "!", other than that it's cool
16:09 < coderphive> that is true
16:09 < GrandWizardZippy> arlion: ill have to check it out
16:09 < coderphive> some weird escaping shit with Ruby too
16:09 < arlion> You would know better, I don't write any ruby.
16:10 < arlion> For puppet?
16:10 < coderphive> mainly with ruby lists if you pass them through the CLI
16:10 < coderphive> arlion rake
16:10 < coderphive> I wish a python equivalent to rake would come out
16:10 < coderphive> I'd switch my shop in a heartbeat
16:11 < arlion> what does rake do?
16:11 < coderphive> it's like Make but more functional
16:11 < arlion> well, python isn't a compiled language.
16:11 < coderphive> neither is Ruby
16:11 < arlion> ah, you said make like the C compiler.
16:11 < coderphive> make is a system utility :)
16:12 < arlion> you know what I mean.
16:12 < arlion> gcc is the compiler.
16:12 < Trapdoor> 48 minutes to go
16:12 < coderphive> well, it's part of bash actually
16:12 < coderphive> I think
16:12 < coderphive> nvm
16:12 < coderphive> no it's not
16:12 < coderphive> disregard that bogus info
16:12 < coderphive> but yeah, a lot of people don't know you can use Make generically
16:12 < arlion> that's interesting. I though make was for C
16:12 < coderphive> nope!
16:13 < coderphive> We use it mainly for CI/CD
16:13 < coderphive> go run all these tests, build the app, etc
16:13 < zeph1rus> python is kinda compiled if you count bytecode.
16:13 < coderphive> shortens the customization of the build env
16:13 < coderphive> zeph1rus certain parts of python are technically compiled
16:14 <+abakedapplepie> Trapdoor whats in 48 minutes
16:15 < coderphive> I've drank 5 shots of espresso total today
16:15 < corn266> ebol4: that's evil
16:15 < arlion> I'm jamming to mxpx's 10 years and running album
16:15 < arlion> omg throwback
16:15 < corn266> .yt Ocean Avenue
16:15 <+layer-eight> YouTube Yellowcard - Ocean Avenue - https://youtu.be/X9fLbfzCqWw
16:15 < coderphive> so many punk rockers in systems
16:16 < coderphive> it's kind of ironic how so many people who listen to punk become system automators
16:16 < arlion> as a long time yellowcard fan who can sing that entire album and the next 2
16:16 < arlion> I very much approve, albeit that song is way overplayed.
16:16 < grumplestiltzkin> .yt ocean man
16:16 <+layer-eight> YouTube Ocean Man Lyrics - https://youtu.be/6E5m_XtCX3c
16:16 < corn266> grumplestiltzkin: that's what reminded me of the yellowcard song
16:16 <+NinjaStyle> I liked yellowcard until my sister did
16:17 <+NinjaStyle> I used to jam mxpx all the time as a kid
16:17 < tapoxi> zsh is the shit
16:17 < corn266> NinjaStyle arlion link an mxpx song
16:17 <+NinjaStyle> I think responsibility was their biggest single
16:18 < coderphive> arlion http://docs.pyinvoke.org/en/latest/
16:18 < coderphive> there actually is a python implementation of rake
16:19 < arlion> .yt mxpx punk rock show
16:19 <+layer-eight> YouTube MxPx - Teenage Politics - 04 - Punk Rawk Show - https://youtu.be/SjHQT1_Aul4
16:19 < arlion> ^ corn266
16:19 < arlion> .yt my friends over you new found glory
16:19 <+layer-eight> YouTube New Found Glory - My Friends Over You - https://youtu.be/QfcLcDBII78
16:20 < arlion> another album I can sing from front to back
16:20 < Trapdoor> abakedapplepie, not 48 minutes
16:20 < Trapdoor> 48 minutes
16:20 < Trapdoor> s/8/0
16:20 <+layer-eight> Trapdoor meant: "40 minutes"
16:20 < arlion> s/48/40
16:20 <+layer-eight> Trapdoor meant: "abakedapplepie, not 40 minutes"
16:20 < Trapdoor> 40 minutes
16:20 <+abakedapplepie> whats in 40 minutes
16:20 < Trapdoor> I go home
16:20 <+abakedapplepie> oh
16:20 <+abakedapplepie> y tho
16:21 < Trapdoor> because it'll be 5pm
16:21 <+abakedapplepie> oh
16:21 <+NinjaStyle> I have an interview in 40 minutes
16:21 < arlion> wow, hello other side of the world
16:21 <+abakedapplepie> where the fuck are you
16:21 < arlion> it's fucking 10 am here.
16:21 < Trapdoor> not US
16:21 < coderphive> NinjaStyle getting a new job?
16:21 <+NinjaStyle> nah probably not
16:21 < Trapdoor> I'm in the fucking future
16:21 < arlion> NinjaStyle: hacker man
16:21 < coderphive> NinjaStyle what do you do?
16:22 < Trapdoor> he hacks time
16:22 <+NinjaStyle> im actually in Houston right now, lol
16:22 < coderphive> come to Dallas
16:22 <+NinjaStyle> coderphive: penetration tester
16:22 < Trapdoor> I've been there
16:22 < coderphive> ah
16:22 <+abakedapplepie> i have new found glory in my head now
16:22 <+abakedapplepie> thanks arlion
16:22 <+abakedapplepie> asshole
16:22 < Trapdoor> Work flew me to Houston to set up a new office
16:22 <+NinjaStyle> same, I saw my friends over you and now the following guitar is in my head
16:22 < coderphive> Houston is a shithole
16:22 < coderphive> there, I said it
16:23 < Trapdoor> Contacted an MSP in Houston for a new site install, server, router, two pcs, cabling etc
16:23 <+NinjaStyle> it's ok so far, except this hotel sucks
16:23 < Trapdoor> They wanted like $16k for the job, not including any equipment
16:23 <+abakedapplepie> hah
16:23 <+abakedapplepie> hahah
16:23 < coderphive> NinjaStyle if you're in Dallas hit me up
16:23 <+abakedapplepie> sounds about right
16:23 < Trapdoor> I jokingky told my boss "It'd be cheaper to send me..." and that's exactly what they did
16:24 < Trapdoor> Next morning boss sends me the ticket :\
16:24 <+NinjaStyle> coderphive: I'll be over top of it this afternoon
16:24 < coderphive> NinjaStyle parachute out
16:24 <+NinjaStyle> lol
16:24 <+abakedapplepie> Trapdoor i would love to travel for work
16:24 <+abakedapplepie> ive had to go to knoxville thats it
16:24 < Trapdoor> It was great abakedapplepie
16:24 < coderphive> NinjaStyle I'll catch you bae
16:24 < Trapdoor> However... I live in Norway
16:24 < coderphive> Trapdoor how is Norway for tech?
16:24 <+abakedapplepie> so lol
16:24 < Trapdoor> it's ok coderphive?
16:25 <@killdash9> travelling for work isn't near as glamorous as you think it is...
16:25 < Trapdoor> abakedapplepie, then I flew back 5 days later
16:25 < Trapdoor> spent two days at home
16:25 < coderphive> not really buzzing with software firms or anything?
16:25 < Trapdoor> and then went on vacation
16:25 < Trapdoor> to California
16:25 <+NinjaStyle> traveling sucks
16:25 <+abakedapplepie> youre not in norway right now are you?
16:25 < Trapdoor> I am
16:25 <+NinjaStyle> that's why I probably won't take this job
16:25 < Trapdoor> coderphive, there are a lot of software firms opening
16:25 < Trapdoor> Lots of AI/Robotics/ML etc
16:25 <+abakedapplepie> and its 5? huh
16:25 < Trapdoor> Well yea, CEST
16:25 <+abakedapplepie> i my head norway is more east
16:25 < Trapdoor> UTC+2
16:25 < coderphive> Trapdoor I've been looking for somewhere to go after I cash out of some start ups
16:25 < coderphive> I'll check it out
16:26 < Trapdoor> Norway is fantastic coderphive
16:26 < coderphive> pretty accepting of pale american youth?
16:26 < Trapdoor> We love mericans
16:26 <+abakedapplepie> as long as you can pay your taxes lol
16:26 < coderphive> Well, I do that
16:26 < Trapdoor> You'd be able to pay your taxes because you'd be paid a Norwegian salary lol
16:26 < coderphive> Can we not go down this rabbithole plz
16:26 < grumplestiltzkin> Trapdoor: isn't personal income tax around 50% for like everyone?
16:26 <+NinjaStyle> how are salaries there?
16:27 < Trapdoor> For any skilled IT labor, expect to be paid $100k+
16:27 <+abakedapplepie> is norway as exclusive in regards to immigration as other nordic countries?
16:27 < coderphive> here we go
16:27 < Trapdoor> NinjaStyle, depends on what you do
16:27 < Trapdoor> If you clean toilets, $40k a year?
16:27 < coderphive> take home is virtually the same in the EU and the US, it's just taxes are higher
16:28 < Trapdoor> grumplestiltzkin, nah not 50%
16:28 < coderphive> and rights are different iirc
16:28 <+NinjaStyle> is democracy a lie in Norway as well?
16:28 < Trapdoor> 11 members of the government have backgrounds in PR
16:28 < Trapdoor> So.. sort of yea
16:28 < coderphive> lmao
16:29 < GrandWizardZippy> if you get paid in the local currency of the country you are living in you do not have to pay taxes in the us too
16:29 < Trapdoor> PR / Smooth talking
16:29 < GrandWizardZippy> but if you get paid in us dollars your have to pay taxes in the us on that money
16:29 < coderphive> Trapdoor we call that brown nosing the public
16:29 < coderphive> Just to give you some americana lingo
16:30 < coderphive> also referred to as "rimming" by millennials
16:30 < Trapdoor> I ended up paying ~33% tax last year
16:30 < coderphive> that's not bad
16:30 < coderphive> for how much income?
16:30 < Trapdoor> ~$105k
16:30 < coderphive> Not too far off from the US
16:31 < Trapdoor> That's my net tax though, not income tax
16:31 < coderphive> Do you guys have sales and municipal/state tax as well?
16:31 < coderphive> right
16:31 < coderphive> okay
16:31 < Trapdoor> We have value added tax of 25%
16:31 < coderphive> Yeah, that's not bad at all
16:31 < coderphive> oh
16:31 < Trapdoor> But no state/municipal tax
16:31 < coderphive> that VAT tax is killer
16:31 <@JollyRgrs> VAT = bleh
16:32 < coderphive> what does VAT apply to?
16:32 < Trapdoor> It's not "VAT" either though, that's a EU thing
16:32 < coderphive> everything?
16:32 < Trapdoor> pretty much
16:32 < coderphive> woah
16:32 < Trapdoor> goods and services
16:32 < coderphive> that sucks
16:32 < coderphive> so I'd make less then
16:32 < coderphive> but do you guys pay for healthcare?
16:32 < Trapdoor> no
16:32 < coderphive> well then that makes it up
16:32 < Trapdoor> our taxes pay for that, like any civilized country
16:33 < grumplestiltzkin> s/country/country that takes most of your earnings
16:33 <+layer-eight> Trapdoor meant: "our taxes pay for that, like any civilized country that takes most of your earnings"
16:33 < Trapdoor> there's no such notion as "doing your taxes" here either
16:33 < coderphive> Yeah I wouldn't call that a mark of civilization
16:33 <@JollyRgrs> Trapdoor: why do foreign rich people still come to US for annual health checkups?
16:33 <@JollyRgrs> if healthcare is so much better elsewhere :P
16:33 < coderphive> We're just more economically independent per person rather you're economically independent as a nation
16:33 < Trapdoor> because they're foreign rich people JollyRgrs
16:33 <@JollyRgrs> i prefer cheap/free healthcare, but i more prefer GOOD healthcare
16:34 < Trapdoor> foreign rich people do foreign rich people things
16:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> uh oh
16:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> healthcare
16:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> time to nope out of here
16:34 < SynMonger> sound the alarm
16:34 < SynMonger> WOOP WOOP
16:34 < Trapdoor> cheap/free healthcare and good healthcare are not mutually exclusive lol
16:34 < coderphive> I told you guys not to start this
16:34 < coderphive> I warned you
16:34 <@JollyRgrs> McDonaldsWiFi: don't worry, when you start flipping burgers FULL-TIME, i think you'll get healthcare benefits, too
16:34 < coderphive> rabbithole
16:34 < Trapdoor> Just because the US is completely ass backwards fucking retarded when it comes to healthcare doesn't mean that every country is
16:34  * killdash9 looks around warily as he readies the banhammer...
16:34 <@JollyRgrs> why is US so great?
16:34 < Trapdoor> It isn't
16:35 <@JollyRgrs> BECAUSE WE ARE GREAT!
16:35 <@JollyRgrs> that's why!
16:35 < Trapdoor> The people are great
16:35 < Trapdoor> the country is fucked
16:35 < coderphive> meh
16:35 < grumplestiltzkin> JollyRgrs: srs. people want all this government run healthcare.  holy balls - look at the V.A.    sometimes you wait months for just an appointment to get a referral to the specialist, who is then another few months wait.
16:35 < mkillebrew> have you tried not being poor?
16:35 <@JollyRgrs> wow Trapdoor, i'm flattered
16:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> Trapdoor: you can say that about every countty ever lol
16:35 < coderphive> We're a capitalist nation
16:35 <@JollyRgrs> normally ppl say the ppl in US are not great, lol
16:35 < coderphive> We don't value each other, it's literally at the core of our beliefs
16:35 < Trapdoor> grumplestiltzkin, you don't want your government to run healthcare
16:35 < Casteil> lulz
16:35 < Trapdoor> You want a proper government to run healthcare
16:35 <@killdash9> channel edges ever closer to the brink...
16:35 < Casteil> this corner of the office gets a lot of f-bombs
16:35 < Casteil> between myself and the accounting controller mainly heh
16:36 < GrandWizardZippy> JollyRgrs: the us is not great lol far from it these days
16:36 < coderphive> heh
16:36 < Trapdoor> thank god I live in a socialist country lol
16:36 < coderphive> Ever been to a third world nation GrandWizardZippy
16:36 < DrGibby|> can we not talk politics please
16:36 < Trapdoor> if I'm in accident I shouldn't expect to be financially ruined for the rest of my life
16:37 <@killdash9> DrGibby|: let them go. It's been a while since I've gotten a good /kickban out of my system
16:37 < GrandWizardZippy> coderphive: ive spent my entire life in third world nations
16:37 < DrGibby|> killdash9+++
16:37 < GrandWizardZippy> coderphive: i spent 9 years in china
16:37 < GrandWizardZippy> coderphive: 6 years in egypt
16:37 < mkillebrew> why
16:37 < GrandWizardZippy> coderphive: 4 years in saudi
16:38 < McDonaldsWiFi> GrandWizardZippy: did it turn you to socialism
16:38 < mkillebrew> those are awful places, do you just like playing life in hard mode?
16:38 < Sousapro> Trapdoor: no, taking care of you doesn't synergise businessspace paradigm
16:38 <@killdash9> 6 months in East L.A.
16:38 < Trapdoor> If I call 911 or go to the ER with a medical emergency, they won't give me an appointment 4 weeks later
16:38 < coderphive> I wouldn't call those third world
16:38 < coderphive> killdash9 lmao
16:38 <@killdash9> Trapdoor: that's enough. Drop it.
16:38 < GrandWizardZippy> McDonaldsWiFi: honestly i think ive always been a socialist
16:38 < Sousapro> Trapdoor: or whatever the hell they say when they put the boot in
16:38 < Sousapro> killdash9: heard
16:38 < McDonaldsWiFi> aww man I was hoping your answwer would be the opposite
16:38 < McDonaldsWiFi> time to nope out again
16:38 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
16:38 < GrandWizardZippy> mkillebrew: how so? i dont think that makes life hard mode, i really enjoyed living in all those countries
16:38 < coderphive> kek
16:39 <@killdash9> it's read-only Friday. Enjoy the break.
16:39 <@JollyRgrs> everyone is poop, everyone poops, everyone dies. the end.
16:39 < GrandWizardZippy> mkillebrew: i am trying to get back to china actually
16:39 < mkillebrew> well whatever floats your boat I guess
16:39 < SpookyCrisp> #nolivesmatter
16:39 < Trapdoor> JollyRgrs, you forgot everyone eats poop
16:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> SpookyCrisp: LOL
16:39 <@JollyRgrs> Trapdoor: this is false, i did not forget, i know it is not true
16:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> i'm surprised JFDkthx isn't waving his dick around in here
16:39 < Sousapro> JollyRgrs: I like to believe everyone is star stuff
16:39 < SpookyCrisp> McDonaldsWiFi, Too small anyway
16:39 < Sousapro> some are just dimmer than others
16:39 <@JollyRgrs> Sousapro: stardust?
16:39 < GrandWizardZippy> i am multi-lingual and i guess from living in those countries from childhood it feels more like home that us does
16:39 <@JollyRgrs> like... ziggy?
16:39 <@Code_Man65> Ok, now you have my attention as well
16:40 <@Code_Man65> Let's avoid politics
16:40 < GrandWizardZippy> i have only lived in the us for 8 or 9 years now
16:40 < Sousapro> and my axe
16:40 < Trapdoor> killdash9, I wasn't trying to start a fight about politics. coderphive wanted to know about healthcare in Norway
16:40 < Trapdoor> coderphive, you should definitely consider it
16:40 < coderphive> You kind of did want to start a fight with the defamatory remarks :P
16:40 < Trapdoor> nothing happens here
16:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> ahh yes, I too like gaining something via theft
16:40 < corn266> (No Trolling, No Politics)
16:40 < GrandWizardZippy> i think its absolutely that we dont have even basic healthcare here in the us
16:40 < Sousapro> what if I actually physically resemble a troll?
16:40 <@JollyRgrs> so bets on how FB will recover from the data scandle
16:40 < GrandWizardZippy> stupid*
16:41 <@killdash9> let's agree: everywhere sucks.
16:41 < coderphive> JollyRgrs Good PR
16:41 < Sousapro> like I'm 6'8", hairy, and burp
16:41 <@Code_Man65> JollyRgrs:  I hope they don't
16:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> killdash9: ++
16:41 <@JollyRgrs> will they rise and buy XBOX from MSFT?
16:41 < Trapdoor> JollyRgrs, largely unaffected
16:41 < mkillebrew> slowly, be people forgetting, and by reporting positive earnings
16:41 < mkillebrew> like always
16:41 < coderphive> JollyRgrs astroturfing reddit
16:41 <@killdash9> JollyRgrs: recover? they ain't going anywhere for a long time
16:41 < corn266> Depends Sousapro do you look like Danny Devito?
16:41 < Sousapro> not quite
16:41 < SpookyCrisp> killdash9, They did lose 100m iirc
16:41 < mkillebrew> "zomg equifax is going down! lulz, we did it reddit"   back up even higher a week later
16:41 <@killdash9> I have to keep it around as long as all the groups I'm a part of use it as their sole means of communication.
16:41 < Casteil> amazon's css is fuuuuucked right now
16:41 < Trapdoor> oh no SpookyCrisp! $100 million?
16:41  * corn266 attempts to kick Sousapro 
16:42 < coderphive> I deleted facebook
16:42 <@JollyRgrs> corn266: a 6'8" danny devito? we already know what that looks like
16:42 < Sousapro> coderphive: wat
16:42 < coderphive> I do have twitter tho
16:42 <@killdash9> coderphive: you failed. It's still there. Try again
16:42 < SpookyCrisp> Trapdoor, I mean, small drop. but its still significant.
16:42 < coderphive> killdash9 yeah yeah yeah
16:42 < coderphive> I stopped using it
16:42 < coderphive> better?
16:42 < Casteil> https://i.imgur.com/NbDBsA9.png
16:42 < Trapdoor> SpookyCrisp, $100 million is nothing
16:42 <@JollyRgrs> https://images.amcnetworks.com/ifc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/040412-arnold-schwarzenegger-twins-sequel.jpg
16:42 < Sousapro> killdash9: -no-preserve-root
16:42 < grumplestiltzkin> JollyRgrs: I want to place an IRL bet on facebook crash-and-burning
16:42 < Trapdoor> Sure it went from $185 to $155 but what does it really matter?
16:43 < SpookyCrisp> Trapdoor, I was wrong. It's 100 billion.
16:43 < coderphive> I'm fine with companies collecting data from me. I want valuable services in return though. This whole thing just made me realize I get nothing from Facebook.
16:43 <@JollyRgrs> grumplestiltzkin: i'd bet if vegas actually did numbers, it would be a very high profit if you won
16:43 < corn266> shit
16:43 < humpaxx> Trapdoor: So close now, i can practically feel the freedom
16:43 <@JollyRgrs> corn266: like google
16:43 <@JollyRgrs> err, coderphive
16:43 < coderphive> yes
16:43 < coderphive> I'm fine with Google using my data
16:43 <@JollyRgrs> i willingly let google collect knowing i receive good services from them... that i use and make extensive use out of
16:43 < coderphive> exactly
16:44 < coderphive> I get a really value added email application and great storage
16:44 <@JollyRgrs> and things i could not really do without google (google home, great mail services, etc)
16:44 < coderphive> exactly
16:44 < SpookyCrisp> My thing is, people lost their shit about Facebook. But then turn on their iPhone or Android and go on IG, Snap, or whatever.
16:44 < coderphive> Google Assistant literally runs my life
16:44 < Trapdoor> SpookyCrisp, sure $100 billion is a fair bit of money
16:44 < coderphive> SpookyCrisp lmao yeap
16:44 < Trapdoor> however
16:44 <@JollyRgrs> what does fb do? cause fights among family members and friends about politics and beliefs
16:44 < coderphive> ^^
16:44 < corn266> Samsung kicking APIs for disabling bixby
16:45 < Trapdoor> Facebook is not worth their $460 billion market cap
16:45 < coderphive> JollyRgrs And makes pictures of you doing stupid shit in college shareable by everyone
16:45 < SpookyCrisp> coderphive, LOL
16:45 < coderphive> and never lets you forget about it
16:45 < Trapdoor> humpaxx, so close I can taste it
16:45 < coderphive> "This time 10 years ago!"
16:45 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: ha.... i barely had fb in college
16:45 <@killdash9> JollyRgrs: if you keep it to only close and actual friends it's fine.
16:45 < grumplestiltzkin> https://www.predictit.org/home/browse?Search=facebook&isSearch=true    actual betting site for politics.    the only 2 items up are suckerberg testifying before July, and if he will run for president (against kanye?) in 2020
16:45 < coderphive> *Stares intently at picture of self double fisting and hitting a bong*
16:45 < humpaxx> corn266: I want to disable the button on my S9 but i still haven´t bothered resetting my samsung acct so i can log in :p
16:46 < Trapdoor> double fisting, coderphive?
16:46 < Trapdoor> I've been looking at porn all day
16:46 < coderphive> so I removed all my content and posts and deleted my facebook
16:46 <@killdash9> fb didn't exost when I was college aged...hell. http as a protocol didn't exist. :P
16:46 < coderphive> Trapdoor two beers, two hands
16:46 < Trapdoor> kinky
16:46 <@JollyRgrs> yeah, back then killdash9 went to www://dogpile.com
16:46 < coderphive> That's normal in America Trapdoor
16:47 < coderphive> Possibly a right of passage
16:47 <@killdash9> Archie and Veronica ftmfw
16:47 < Trapdoor> I found a great way to get the best porn, there's a chrome extension for reddit that lets you filter only NSFW posts... then all you've gotta do is hit up /r/all
16:47 < coderphive> Ironically I can't drink now
16:47 < Trapdoor> s/porn/porn on reddit
16:47 <+layer-eight> Trapdoor meant: "I found a great way to get the best porn on reddit, there's a chrome extension for reddit that lets you filter only NSFW posts... then all you've gotta do is hit up /r/all"
16:47 < DrGibby|> Trapdoor: you mean res?
16:47 < grumplestiltzkin> wat
16:47 < Trapdoor> yea DrGibby|, RES
16:47 < DrGibby|> it filters NSFW and Spoilers out
16:48 < Trapdoor> Or the opposite
16:48 <@killdash9> you mean /r/BetterFap/ ?
16:48 < DrGibby|> and filters out what you've already read
16:48 < DrGibby|> its fucking nice
16:48 < humpaxx> killdash9: Weekend plans canceled
16:48 < coderphive> Actually a better discussion is: what's the future of reddit
16:48 < Trapdoor> I guess that works killdash9 lol
16:48 < corn266> coderphive: turning into digg
16:49 < coderphive> Post-Reddit Facism
16:49 < Trapdoor> corn266, isn't reddit already digg?
16:49 < Trapdoor> and slashdot
16:49 < Trapdoor> and fark
16:49 < coderphive> Reddit is Twitter with nested replies
16:49 < coderphive> #rip
16:49 < corn266>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  f
16:49 <@killdash9> reddit unbanned /r/gundeals after their massacre 2 weeks ago. Really the only sub I look at on a regular basis any more
16:49 < corn266> f
16:50 < coderphive> killdash9 they all moved to voat I think
16:50 < coderphive> Are they coming back?
16:50 < Trapdoor> I can't believe they banned /r/deepfakes killdash9
16:50 <@killdash9> coderphive: it's back
16:50 < DrGibby|> and voat is a cesspool
16:50 < coderphive> voat is a bastion for the alt-right supposedly
16:50 < Trapdoor> ugh
16:51 < DrGibby|> coderphive: right, a cesspool
16:51 < coderphive> Although, any free speech bastion will be
16:51 <+A-KO> I don't consider extreme conservatism covered under free speech anymore, not after today where an Idaho politician called for the death penalty for women for getting abortions
16:51 <+A-KO> fuck them
16:51  * A-KO rant
16:51 <+A-KO> it's ISIS level extremism now
16:51 <+A-KO> and we know where that went
16:52  * SynMonger shrugs
16:52 < coderphive> A-KO we've already been warned about politics
16:52 < coderphive> I introduced that
16:52 < coderphive> sorry
16:52 < coderphive> Didn't really mean to
16:52 < Trapdoor> yea that was all on you
16:52 < coderphive> kek
16:53 < coderphive> I can have civil discussions without name calling and drama
16:53 < corn266> death threats != free speech
16:53 < coderphive> so I'm not used to censoring myself
16:53 < DrGibby|> fuck you corn266 no you cant you asshole
16:53 < DrGibby|>  /s
16:53 < DrGibby|> err
16:53 < DrGibby|> I means coderphive but whatever.
16:53 < int0x1C8> fuk da police
16:53 < coderphive> lmao
16:53 <@killdash9> coderphive: most people can. It's just easier to keep it out of here.
16:54 < Nightcinder> i love getting to spend the money at work
16:54 < humpaxx> Trapdoor: 6 minutes.. time to close tabs and get ready for the weekend
16:54 < corn266> comin str8 from the undergound
16:54 < Nightcinder> 5k dell order + $900 amazon order
16:54 < Nightcinder> wew
16:54 < int0x1C8> no justice no peace
16:54 < SynMonger> close... tabs? What sorcery is this?!
16:54 < coderphive> killdash9 I understand, there's a good chunk that can't. I get why it's done, not criticizing that at all.
16:54 < Nightcinder> people close tabs?
16:54 < Nightcinder> i thought you were supposed to have 400 open
16:54 < coderphive> killdash9 some ruin it for all
16:54 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: this is true of so many things
16:55 <@JollyRgrs> a lesson learned back in grade school
16:55 < coderphive> truth
16:55 <@killdash9> Straying close to politics: I ordered a few new mags from a deal I found online. The 'extras' they included made me never want to order from them again. https://i.imgur.com/mHbxsYR.png
16:55 < humpaxx> I close them on fridays before i leave so every monday morning is like a new start
16:55 < int0x1C8> remember when google was considering removing the right click -> 'close all tabs to right' and 'close other tabs' ?
16:55 < coderphive> JollyRgrs also a mantra of the US military, kek
16:55 <@JollyRgrs> killdash9: please refrain from politics in this channel :P
16:55 < humpaxx> No lingering tabs with tickets open until the monday meeting is over
16:55 <@killdash9> JollyRgrs: sorry...
16:56 < coderphive> killdash9 the irony of that packaging is that a sniper doesn't use a mag like that :P
16:56 < int0x1C8> harakiri-zo
16:56 < DrGibby|> killdash9: what kind of seasoning is that?
16:56 < killdash9> and that not every gun owner/user believes the same fucking thing
16:56 < corn266> what's the command to update dconf? is it dconf update?
16:56 <@JollyRgrs> killdash9: you must visit http://shamenun.com/ and press the shame button 8 times
16:56 < killdash9> DrGibby|: some in-house dry rub the company makes I guess. I was happy with that bit. Then got to the bottom of the box and found all the stickers
16:57 < DrGibby|> killdash9: shoot them
16:57 < humpaxx> Aaand im off! Talk later peeps.
16:57 < killdash9> also, three copies of the Constitution. You know, becuase one ain't enough
16:57 < DrGibby|> the stickers I mean
16:57 <@JollyRgrs> killdash9: maybe they were trying to.... rub... it in?
16:57 < corn266> byyyyyyye
16:57 < coderphive> killdash9 in Afghan the fed actually banned the use of polymer mags because they melted under heavy use
16:57 < killdash9> DrGibby|: that's a brilliant idea. Except if I was seen at the range doing that it could be bad for my own health.
16:58 < DrGibby|> oh, you have to go to a range
16:58 < DrGibby|> I gotcha
16:58 < coderphive> Also, you're supposed to put the seasoning in your lip like a dip and fire your long rifle
16:58 < DrGibby|> we just go to the boonies and shoot
16:58 < killdash9> coderphive: I want a few translucent ones because in competition sometimes we have to download mags and it makes it easy to see that I've got the right load ready
16:58 < coderphive> Obviously the intent here
16:58 < coderphive> killdash9 are clear mags legal in comp?
16:58 < killdash9> sure
16:58 < coderphive> round counting was one of the big things in dod competition shooting
16:59 < felda> just in case you guys didn't see.  Crusader Kings 2 is free on steam right now, but only for the weekend.
17:00 < ebol4> like free weekend, or activate and you keep it
17:00 < killdash9> yeah, we'll start a line of fire sometimes and it's "download a magazine to 12 rounds. Fire until empty then perform a reload from cover." type stuff
17:00 < ebol4> you wouldn't download a 12-round magazine
17:00 <@JollyRgrs> why not? i download more ram
17:01 < felda> I hope these new tariffs don't hit PC parts :(
17:01 < tapoxi> oh they will
17:01 < felda> I was thinking of doing an upgrade, but right now GPU prices are still completely fucked anyway  (ಥ﹏ಥ)
17:01 < tapoxi> felda: time to upgrade to ps4 pro
17:01 < felda> Stay strong my eBay R9 290
17:01 < int0x1C8> most of those are made in taiwan, phillipines, thailand, etc
17:02 < int0x1C8> southeast asia
17:02 < Trapdoor> wow
17:02 < grumplestiltzkin> killdash9: you like the lancer mags?
17:02 < Trapdoor> it was 4:59pm and someone wanted me to do some bullshit
17:02 < Trapdoor> holy fucking shit
17:02 < felda> int0x1C8  which China plans to take control of via a new silk road and sea based silk road they just dumped billions of dollars into
17:03 < SynMonger> joke's on them, we don't need silk
17:03 < coderphive> I blame all bitcoin miners for GPU prices
17:03 < coderphive> If you mine bitcoin, please die
17:03 < coderphive> and leave me your GPU
17:03 < corn266> NVIDIA 1080s are $650-$700
17:03 < coderphive> not
17:04 < corn266> also most miners have migrated to alt-coins because profit
17:04 < killdash9> grumplestiltzkin: haven't gotten out to shoot them yet. They aren't as hefty as others. They seem a bit flexible. Maybe they'll absorb shocks better. We'll see. The steel lips may help a bit.
17:04 < SynMonger> if you mine bitcoin with a gpu past 2013, you're dumb
17:04 < vavkamil> I don't think you can mine with GPU anymore
17:04 < coderphive> @corn266 https://www.amazon.com/Nvidia-GEFORCE-GTX-1080-Ti/dp/B06XH5ZCLP
17:04 < SynMonger> they use them for the alt coins that need stupid amounts of ram
17:04 < grumplestiltzkin>   start mining bunnycoin.  because ... somehow, porn?       http://bunnycoin.org/   https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bunnycoin/  BunnyCoin (BUN)  $0.000044 USD (-25.32%)    6.625e-9 BTC (-23.49%)
17:04 < corn266> OMG is about to implement proof of stake instead of proof of work. After the bugs are worked out it'll move to all ETH-20 coins and lower the cost of GPUs
17:05 < corn266> coderphive: I didn't say the TI version was
17:05 < coderphive> https://www.bestbuy.com/site/evga-sc2-gaming-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-11gb-gddr5x-pci-express-3-0-graphics-card-black/5854306.p?skuId=5854306
17:05 < coderphive> sick
17:05 < coderphive> $969.99
17:05 < int0x1C8> only plebs use GPUs for mining
17:06 < int0x1C8> you need ASICs to do it right
17:06 < coderphive> Your vernacular indicates you're an expert
17:06 < corn266> int0x1C8: ETH is about to go ASICs resistant
17:06 <+NinjaStyle> everyone is an expert
17:06 < int0x1C8> how?
17:06 < grumplestiltzkin> killdash9: Oh, neat, I didnt know they were hybrid - like a glock mag eh?   I recently picked up a daniel defense mag, but same, haven't tried it yet.  All of my civillian rifles are so tight, you have to lock the bolt back, or really mean business when seating one.
17:06 < corn266> pending community vote
17:06 < coderphive> I mine bitcoins with 70,000 hampsters hooked up to a turing machine
17:07 < corn266> int0x1C8: they'll change the hashing algo
17:07 < int0x1C8> so you just change the ASIC
17:07 < Nightcinder> hey guys
17:07 < coderphive> My hampster growth is actually going to posture me above the biggest bitcoin producers
17:07 < Nightcinder> important question
17:07 < Nightcinder> what do i want for lunch from texas roadhouse?
17:07 < corn266> int0x1C8: that's not how it works
17:07 < int0x1C8> or are they going to just keep changing the algo
17:07 < corn266> Nightcinder: get a steak
17:07 <@JollyRgrs> Nightcinder: steak
17:07 < coderphive> Nightcinder Steak and rolls
17:08 < alazare619> Nightcinder: ribeye
17:08 < coderphive> especially with that butter
17:08 <@JollyRgrs> if you want cheap... country fried steak
17:08 < Nightcinder> i'm paying my own way today
17:08 < corn266> ribeye for life
17:08 < Nightcinder> but work is paying next friday
17:08 < alazare619> the answer is ribeye
17:08 < Nightcinder> was thinkin' chicken but i guess steak it is
17:08 < alazare619> never anything else
17:08 < corn266> test out the 8oz and if you like it get work to pay for the 16oz
17:08 < alazare619> ribeye boi
17:08 < tapoxi> steak fried chicken > chicken fried steak
17:08 <@JollyRgrs> Nightcinder: you ever ordered chicken from outback?
17:08 < int0x1C8> filet mignon or bust
17:08 < Nightcinder> no
17:08 < Nightcinder> just texas roadhouse
17:08 < Nightcinder> i really do like texas roadhouse's breading
17:08 < Nightcinder> ..
17:09 < Nightcinder> idk why
17:09 < corn266> filet mignon is a meme cut
17:09 < alazare619> int0x1C8:  you mean over price donkey shit
17:09 < tapoxi> int0x1C8: aka the steak that leaves you hungry
17:09 <@JollyRgrs> i'm a fan of sirloin... works out well for my wallet, too
17:09 < Nightcinder> filet is only good when it's still attached to the rest of the main steak
17:09 < alazare619> filey mignon is a shit piss poor excuse of a steak
17:09 < int0x1C8> :/
17:09 < alazare619> JollyRgrs:  sirloin is shit to and usually more then ribeye
17:09 <@JollyRgrs> alazare619: no
17:09 < alazare619> because "top tier sirloin"
17:09 <@JollyRgrs> when is ribeye "more"?
17:09 < Nightcinder> do i get ribeye or bone in ribeye?
17:10 < coderphive> JollyRgrs depends on the region
17:10 <@JollyRgrs> i mean... err when is sirloin more than ribeye
17:10 < alazare619> Nightcinder:  either is fine :P
17:10 < coderphive> JollyRgrs do you live in TX?
17:10 <@JollyRgrs> maybe so
17:10 < int0x1C8> sirloin for cost, filet for taste
17:10 < coderphive> JollyRgrs Probably why
17:10 <@JollyRgrs> but in FL and on Motreal... sirloin was good (and cheaper than ribeye)
17:10 < grumplestiltzkin> int0x1C8: lot's of people who don't cook aren't aware that generally, the more tender a cut of meat is, the less flavor.   like your tougher 'chuck' etc will have more flavor.  cuts from the tenderloin are also more expensive because there is less of it on the critter
17:10 < alazare619> JollyRgrs:  here in the midwest they are usually about the same
17:10 < coderphive> JollyRgrs We get our beef mostly from Mejico
17:10 <@JollyRgrs> we get our beef from... cattle farmers?
17:10 < coderphive> en Mejico
17:10 < alazare619> JollyRgrs:  but then again i'm less than an hour from dodge city kansas the famous cattle town :P
17:11 <@JollyRgrs> alazare619: does it smell as bad as amarillo, tx?
17:11 <@JollyRgrs> OMG, the stench driving through ther
17:11 < alazare619> worse
17:11 < int0x1C8> hmm, well it has been years since I had filet anyway, I just remember it being orgasmic
17:11 < coderphive> JollyRgrs there's a decent amount of locally sourced beef in TX, but most of it comes from leather working in mexico
17:11 < tapoxi> filet can be good
17:11 < int0x1C8> I'm even salivating right now
17:11 < tapoxi> I eat a fuckton of filet
17:11 < alazare619> JollyRgrs:  amarillo has nothing on dodge city
17:11 <@JollyRgrs> int0x1C8: so much of a steak's flavor/tenderness is in the cooking of it
17:11 < coderphive> ^^
17:11 < alazare619> JollyRgrs:  the cow to person ratio is like 20:1
17:11 < coderphive> lmao
17:12 < alazare619> and i'm not joking about that look up dodge city kansas on google earth
17:12 <@JollyRgrs> best part about my trip to canada... steak and potatos every night :)
17:12 < int0x1C8> yeah it was a local restaurant specialized in steaks
17:12 < alazare619> you can smell it through the internet
17:12 < tapoxi> porkbelly > all
17:12 < coderphive> I eat steak nearly every night
17:12 < coderphive> Texas is a keko'ers dream
17:12 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: pls keep your bedroom activities in PMs to those who care
17:12 < coderphive> keto rather
17:12 < tapoxi> texas is weird
17:12 < coderphive> lmao
17:13 < int0x1C8> real men eat blood sausage anyway
17:13 < coderphive> idk what that is
17:13 < coderphive> is that a penis?
17:13 < coderphive> sounds like a real metal name for a penis
17:13 < int0x1C8> just cooked blood in a sausage casing
17:13 <+abakedapplepie> jesus christ
17:14 < coderphive> I'm just fact finding here
17:14 <+abakedapplepie> client ordered new internet, i asked them three times to inform me of the install datetime so i can be available for issues
17:14 < int0x1C8> can be with or without actual meat
17:14 <+abakedapplepie> just got a call, "comcast is here"
17:14 <+abakedapplepie> THANKS FOR THE HEADS UP
17:14 < coderphive> so when you eat it
17:14 <+abakedapplepie> 11:30 am on a friday ISP cutover with no IT staff onsite
17:14 < coderphive> does it burst and flow all over your face?
17:14 <+abakedapplepie> WCGW??
17:14 < coderphive> like a big condom
17:14 < int0x1C8> I'd like to think so
17:15 < int0x1C8> never had it, thus I am not a real man :(
17:15 < coderphive> :(
17:15 < coderphive> neither am I
17:15 < alazare619> blood sausage is disgusting
17:15 < alazare619> ask me how i know
17:15 < coderphive> but face bathing in the blood of inferior species sounds amazing
17:15 < alazare619> side note rocky mountain oysters are delicious
17:15 <+abakedapplepie> yeh blood sausage is gross in every way to me
17:15 < int0x1C8> ahahaha you ate balls
17:15 <+abakedapplepie> the stuff that is just some blood mixed with meat isnt as awful
17:16 <+abakedapplepie> but cooked coagulated blood is just
17:16 <+abakedapplepie> no
17:16 < alazare619> int0x1C8:  i live in the midwest ball frys are like a norm out here
17:16 < coderphive> =|
17:16 <+abakedapplepie> ^
17:16 < alazare619> get a big ol deep fryer going over a fire pit and fry some balls
17:16 < int0x1C8> blood pudding, now that is revolting
17:16 < coderphive> Are they salty?
17:16 < coderphive> ask me how I know
17:17 < alazare619> coderphive: not terribly
17:17 <@JollyRgrs> buncha ball lickers
17:17 < coderphive> true
17:17 < alazare619> dude you havent lived till you ate a cow ball
17:17 <@JollyRgrs> alazare619: have you ever cooked/fried balls yourself?
17:17 < alazare619> nope
17:18 < alazare619> only been to ball frys
17:18 <@JollyRgrs> i mean... if i served some animal balls, i'd totally go "dude, please dip my balls in some ranch and let me know how they taste"
17:18 < grumplestiltzkin> sounds like one of those "worst of craigslist"
17:18 < alazare619> JollyRgrs:  lmao
17:18 < int0x1C8> alazare619 I live in the midwest too, never even seen a place that serves balls
17:18 < alazare619> int0x1C8:  they are called oysters
17:18 <@JollyRgrs> rocky mtn oysters
17:18 < alazare619> int0x1C8:  and its usually mid summer to early fall thing
17:18 < coderphive> JollyRgrs does the flavor profile of your balls play well with ranch or buffalo sauce?
17:18 < int0x1C8> I know
17:19 < alazare619> when they are castrating the male cows
17:19 < int0x1C8> I live in WI
17:19 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: i'd like to think the best is a mix of the two, would you like to test?
17:19 < mrghostman> they have a festival for it in Montana https://www.legendsofamerica.com/mt-testiclefestival/
17:19 <@JollyRgrs> WI isn't mid-west
17:19 <@JollyRgrs> that's friggin toboggin town
17:19 < alazare619> mid west imo would be nebraska kansas oklahoma missouri texas
17:19 < coderphive> JollyRgrs yes, please send them to my post office box in a cooler with heating instructions
17:20 < alazare619> the cow/grain belt
17:20 < DrGibby|> JollyRgrs++
17:20 < coderphive> WI is literally a giant butthole
17:20 < DrGibby|> how is Texas midwest?!
17:20 < DrGibby|> its the fucking south!
17:20 < coderphive> El Paso
17:20 < int0x1C8> dude we are the dairy state we have a shitload of cows
17:20 < alazare619> its the hick capital of the world DrGibby|
17:20 <+abakedapplepie> texas is texas
17:20 <@JollyRgrs> TX is southwest
17:20 < coderphive> DrGibby| Texas doesn't really consider itself the South when we neighbor Louisianna
17:20 < coderphive> two very different cultures
17:20 <@JollyRgrs> sxsw is in..... where? TX
17:21 < grumplestiltzkin> well.  it's in Austin
17:21 < alazare619> what is south by southwest
17:21 <@JollyRgrs> LA is south, just not "southern"
17:21 <+abakedapplepie> texas is just texas lol
17:21 <+abakedapplepie> its its own thing
17:21 < alazare619> i only know of tx2k
17:21 <@JollyRgrs> most people think of southern as south-eastern
17:21 < DrGibby|> IN/IL/KY/TN/MO/IA/KS/NE is midwest to me
17:21 < coderphive> abakedapplepie I'd agree
17:21 < int0x1C8> texas is the FREE REPUBLIC OF TEXAS
17:21 <@JollyRgrs> DrGibby|: you are combining mid-west and "middle america"
17:21 < grumplestiltzkin> s/FREE/GLORIOUS
17:21 <+layer-eight> int0x1C8 meant: "texas is the GLORIOUS REPUBLIC OF TEXAS"
17:22 <+abakedapplepie> tennessee is south
17:22 < DrGibby|> JollyRgrs: regardless, Texas isn't midwest
17:22 < int0x1C8> wait, if you include IL, then wtf is WI
17:22 < DrGibby|> HOW THE FUCK ISN'T IL MIDWEST?!
17:22 < coderphive> Texas is the lord of the toll roads
17:22 <@JollyRgrs> WI is mid-cheeseland
17:22 < int0x1C8> oh, I can get onboard with that
17:23 < int0x1C8> don't get me started on california cheese
17:23 <+abakedapplepie> i like that you guys can speculate but
17:23 <+abakedapplepie> the midwest is codified
17:23 < DrGibby|> https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/hickey-map-midwest2.png?w=575&quality=90&strip=info
17:23 <+abakedapplepie> The Census Bureau's definition consists of 12 states in the north central United States: Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, South Dakota, and Wisconsin.
17:23 < coderphive> California is just one big cheese
17:23 < int0x1C8> fuckin blasphemers
17:23 <@JollyRgrs> int0x1C8: you mean that happy cow cheese?
17:23 <+abakedapplepie> i hope i have educated you
17:23 < coderphive> California is the cheese no one wants to eat but it looks pretty with wax on it
17:24 < coderphive> as long as it stays in that wax, nobody fucks with it
17:24 < int0x1C8> yeah see there you go, I have never heard WI referred to as not in the midwest
17:24 <+abakedapplepie> int0x1C8: well being a citizen of the midwest
17:24 <+abakedapplepie> i assure you
17:24 <+abakedapplepie> WI is referred to as the midwest
17:24 <+abakedapplepie> constantly
17:24 <+abakedapplepie> lol
17:24 <@JollyRgrs> that's why i live where there's no doubt
17:25 <@JollyRgrs> i'm eastern
17:25 < int0x1C8> right
17:25 <@JollyRgrs> i'm southern
17:25 <+abakedapplepie> there is no doubt here....
17:25 <@JollyRgrs> can't get any more of either
17:25 <+abakedapplepie> again, The Census Bureau's definition consists of 12 states in the north central United States: Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, South Dakota, and Wisconsin.
17:25 <+abakedapplepie> there is literally no debate.
17:25 <@JollyRgrs> uh yeah
17:25 <@JollyRgrs> there is
17:25 <+abakedapplepie> thats the short and long, beginning and end
17:25 <@JollyRgrs> census bureau isn't the end-all be-all
17:25 < coderphive> Hold on guys
17:25 < grumplestiltzkin> I think a better measure is if you can get sweet tea at most restaurants
17:25 <@JollyRgrs> you can't lump kansas in the same group as ND and MN and OH
17:25 < coderphive> Can we all just agree Kentucky isn't really a state?
17:25 < int0x1C8> sure
17:26 < DrGibby|> JollyRgrs: are you saying the census bureau is fake news?
17:26 <@JollyRgrs> grumplestiltzkin: that's a mason dixon thing and also e/w of mississippi?
17:26 < coderphive> lmao
17:26 < DrGibby|> coderphive: Trailorparkansas too!
17:26 < coderphive> Kentucky is literally fake news
17:26 <@JollyRgrs> grumplestiltzkin: btw... seems down nearer miami, you can only get raspberry tea, not just plain sweet tea
17:26 < coderphive> I would like to take it and West Virginia and just fill them in with black on the map
17:27 < int0x1C8> south WI is pretty solid midwest, in the north you get the yoopers/canucks
17:27 < coderphive> Can we vote on this proclamation?
17:27 < grumplestiltzkin> hm.  must be a cuban thing.   I don't know, I do enjoy an occasional raspberry or peach tea
17:27 < int0x1C8> I vote aye
17:27 < coderphive> I vote aye as well
17:27 < int0x1C8> motion passed
17:28 <@JollyRgrs> grumplestiltzkin: i prefer cutting my tea with a hint of lemonade (esp. pink lemonade) or sometimes lime juice if no lemon available
17:28 < coderphive> From here on out, Kentucky and West Virginia will no longer be referred to as states on /r/sysadmin
17:28 < int0x1C8> hear hear
17:28 <@JollyRgrs> nope
17:28 <@JollyRgrs> that does not pass
17:28 <@JollyRgrs> no KFC
17:28 < coderphive> WE VOTED
17:28 <+abakedapplepie> hey
17:28 <@JollyRgrs> no louisville slugger
17:28 <+abakedapplepie> we have land in WV lol
17:28 <@JollyRgrs> i ain't havin that
17:28 < grumplestiltzkin> JollyRgrs: for sure, especially in summer - like the hotter it is, the closer to a 50/50 blend I get
17:28 <+abakedapplepie> i would like to keep it
17:28 <@JollyRgrs> no UPS grand terminal
17:29 < int0x1C8> LET THE RECORD SHOW JollyRgrs IS INTERFERING WITH DEMOCRATIC PROCESS
17:29 < grumplestiltzkin> BOURBON
17:29 < arlion> guys
17:29 < arlion> I need to vent
17:29 < coderphive> uh oh
17:29 <+abakedapplepie> arlion: its not worth it
17:29 < arlion> b/c I if I go into this next meeting pissed.
17:29 < coderphive> arlion it better not include Kentucky
17:29 < arlion> nope
17:29 < DrGibby|> Or (Ar)kansas
17:29 < coderphive> because there's currently a dispute between the House and it's dictators as the state of that states statefulness
17:29 < arlion> Kentucky is not involved..... directly.
17:29 < grumplestiltzkin> coderphive: you are voting to have bourbon not be a thing.  what the actual fuck?
17:30 <+abakedapplepie> hey most of the bourbon is produced in indiana now anyway
17:30 <+abakedapplepie> no big loss
17:30 < coderphive> grumplestiltzkin Bourbon can exist
17:30 < coderphive> It's just not kentucky bourbon
17:30 < grumplestiltzkin> bourbon comes from kentucky
17:30 < coderphive> It's Black Hole Bourbon
17:30 <+abakedapplepie> see diageo et al
17:30 < coderphive> We're merely not acknowledging Kentucky as a state anymore
17:31 < DrGibby|> Or (Ar)kansas
17:31 < coderphive> Kentucky and West Virginia will simply merge with Ohio and become
17:31 < coderphive> a super walmart
17:31 < DrGibby|> or, Ohio
17:31 < coderphive> aka Ohio
17:32 < DrGibby|> a state no one ever wants to visit but somehow has to
17:32 < int0x1C8> no it'll be the costco from idiocracy
17:32 < coderphive> Dave Chapelle does live there
17:32 <+abakedapplepie> welcome to costco i luv u
17:32 < int0x1C8> welcome to costco i love you
17:32 < int0x1C8> damnit
17:33 < coderphive> DrGibby| it is high time someone do something with Arkansas
17:33 < DrGibby|> or as I like to call it trailer parkansas
17:33 < coderphive> Texas cannot fix Arkansas problems though, we already banned incest
17:33 < int0x1C8> Arkansas did give us bill clinton though
17:33 < DrGibby|> Kansas is just guilty by association.
17:33 < coderphive> that's true
17:33 < int0x1C8> but by proxy it gave us hilary, so... mixed bag I guess
17:34 < coderphive> Arkansas, Mississippi, and Louisiana will all merge
17:34 < coderphive> Greatest git commit of all time
17:34 < coderphive> git commit -m "lmao about time"
17:34 < coderphive> They will be
17:34 < coderphive> a super starbucks
17:34 < coderphive> all swamps will be converted to espresso
17:35 < int0x1C8> florida shall be renamed to 'land of meth and gators'
17:35 < int0x1C8> then eventually 'atlantis'
17:35 < coderphive> This is good
17:35 < coderphive> We're making progress
17:35 < DrGibby|> So Nebraska gets Kansas and MO gets Arkansas?
17:35 < coderphive> I'm fine with that
17:35 < coderphive> We'll donate Maine to Canada
17:36 < int0x1C8> I also vote california's new name as 'douchetopia'
17:36 < DrGibby|> actually, no. We'll give the top of AR to TN and the bottom to LA
17:36 < coderphive> int0x1C8 California is being sold to Mark Zuckerberg
17:36 < coderphive> probably to be known as "Zuckerberg" or "The Zuck"
17:36 < DrGibby|> and nip off that little hanging chad from MO at the same time
17:37 < int0x1C8> yeah, so 'douchetopia' still applies. its a synonym
17:37 < vinrock> zuck's private dm's have been disappearing from people's accounts
17:37 < coderphive> Sick
17:37 < sideup66> Oh god
17:37 <@JollyRgrs> Zuckberg, woOOoo
17:37 < sideup66> Wtf he do now
17:37 < coderphive> Utah will now be known as Mormonville
17:37 < vinrock> idk but he's hiding something
17:37 < vinrock> isnt utah already called that
17:37 < coderphive> Yes, nothing changes there
17:38 < sideup66> Nothing will happen.
17:38 < DrGibby|> no, its called Utah
17:38 < sideup66> He won't go to jail
17:38 < ebol4> who said utah
17:38 < sideup66> He won't lose facebook
17:38 <+abakedapplepie> no one
17:38 <@JollyRgrs> I thought it was Mormon Estates
17:38 < sideup66> Nothing
17:38 < coderphive> JollyRgrs That's the more formal name
17:38 < vinrock> Joseph Smithland, USA
17:38 < DrGibby|> JollyRgrs: thats a city
17:38 < sideup66> Golden parachutes
17:38 < DrGibby|> Its the Capitol
17:38 < coderphive> Nevada will be shorted to "Sand and Strippers"
17:38 < vinrock> actualy you wana see monmon invasion you should check out binghampton ny
17:38 < vinrock> they do like, their pilgrimage to mecca every year
17:39 <@JollyRgrs> monmon.... lol
17:39 < vinrock> but mecca is upstate ny
17:39 < int0x1C8> colorado -> xX_420BLAZEITPRO69_Xx
17:39 < vinrock> mm monmon
17:39 < DrGibby|> AZ to be renamed "HELL"
17:39 < ebol4> delicious vandsich.... monmonmon
17:39 < coderphive> New Mexico will just be regarded as "Mexico"
17:39 < coderphive> USA Mexico for long format
17:39 < DrGibby|> lol
17:39 < int0x1C8> washington -> 'Canada, adjacent'
17:40 < DrGibby|> nah, leave washington alone.
17:40 < coderphive> Oregon will be known as "Portlandia"
17:40 < DrGibby|> We need to keep its name to remember our founding fathers
17:40 <@JollyRgrs> idaho will be renamed to "i dunno wtf drew my state lines"
17:40 < int0x1C8> idaho more like 'potatoes and depression'
17:40 < DrGibby|> Montana can be 'Canada, adjacent' though
17:40 < vinrock> "No body wanted this chunk of land?  ok we'll take it sure"
17:40 <@JollyRgrs> DrGibby|: rename PA to Franklin
17:40 < vinrock> blammo - idaho
17:41 <@JollyRgrs> montana is just "mini canada"
17:41 < coderphive> Nebraska will be known as "???"
17:41 <@JollyRgrs> long rectangle, not many ppl live there
17:41 < vinrock> thats actually what 'montana' means in Navajo
17:41 < DrGibby|> coderphive: 'Flyover'
17:41 <@JollyRgrs> s/???/CORN!/
17:41 < vinrock> owned
17:41 < coderphive> Colorado I think is obvious
17:41 < coderphive> "Weed"
17:41 < int0x1C8> colorado -> xX_420BLAZEITPRO69_Xx
17:42 < DrGibby|> combine the dakota's as well
17:42 < coderphive> Yeap, no point for two of those
17:42 < int0x1C8> call them east dakota, to confuse everyone
17:42 < vinrock> rename the dakotas to the "northern sahara"
17:42 < coderphive> The Dakotas will just be known as "lmao"
17:43 < DrGibby|> yes, I like 'East Dakotas' as a name
17:43 < coderphive> I don't think anyone actually lives there anyway
17:43 < coderphive> Can anyone confirm?
17:43 < DrGibby|> plural even though there is only one of them
17:43 < vinrock> combine all the souther states into one
17:43 < vinrock> "Jesusland"
17:43 < int0x1C8> only people there are oil work migrants
17:43 < coderphive> I think they need to split up
17:43 < coderphive> "Super Jesusy"
17:44 < coderphive> "Kinda Jesusy"
17:44 < DrGibby|> we need to split them up MORE if we can
17:44 < coderphive> "Goes to church twice a year but Bob calls himself a good Christian and votes against abortion"
17:45 < coderphive> I feel like those can be mapped fairly decently
17:45 < int0x1C8> coderphive, you can do that as long as we draw a circle around huntsville, AL and call the new state 'ROCKETS!11!1!'
17:45 < vinrock> we can split mississippi up into four states "mis" "sis" "sip and "pi"
17:45 < coderphive> Mississippi is being combined with Louisiana and Arkansas
17:46 < coderphive> They're going to be a super starbucks
17:46 < corn266> JollyRgrs: what do you want
17:46 < coderphive> We haven't really addressed North and South Carolina
17:47 < corn266> What did y'all decide on Texas?
17:48 < Sarah> int0x1C8: what's in huntsville al?
17:48 < coderphive> Texas is already known as Tejas
17:48 < corn266> Sarah: death penalties
17:48 < coderphive> Indicating its partial allegiance to Mexico
17:48 < Sarah> oh, nasa
17:48 < corn266> Sarah: oh you mean 'bama
17:48 <+abakedapplepie> its been 40 minutes since comcast took my client down
17:48 <+abakedapplepie> ......
17:48 <+abakedapplepie> this is fine
17:48 <+abakedapplepie> oh, only 32 minutes
17:49 < DrGibby|> abakedapplepie: time to head home!
17:49 <+abakedapplepie> tech : call me back in ten minutes. ten minute later: call me back in ten minutes. ten minutes later: call me back in ten minutes
17:49 <+abakedapplepie> pls
17:51 < corn266> Have they tried turning comcast off and back on?
17:57 <@ravioli> happy friday
17:58 < corn266> yea? what's so happy about it
17:59 <@ravioli> you're still here, corn266. and that makes me happy :)
17:59 < vinrock> aw yus
17:59 < corn266> <3
17:59 < vinrock> customer brought us subs and pizza
18:01 <@ravioli> nice
18:01 < vinrock> https://i.imgur.com/VgAMTh3.jpg
18:02 < suttin> ravioli: you're a bish
18:03 < int0x1C8> what are you doing goat, get out of there
18:04 < int0x1C8> you're drunk, go home
18:05 <@ravioli> hi suttin.
18:05 < suttin> Hi
18:10 < Casteil> vinrock: you know
18:10 < Casteil> I feel like kind of a dick for always being on the receiving end of things
18:10 < Casteil> like, someone else bringing in donuts or bagels or w/e
18:11 < vinrock> i never win shit so i dont bring stuff in
18:11 < vinrock> the people who do are usually winners of a football pool or somethin
18:11 < vinrock> but this time it was a customer and they brought a shitload of food
18:12 < Casteil> that said, I feel like IT/software dev "performs" far more than it "demands" from other members
18:14 < voidstar> I think it's the 'if you want it done right, do it yourself' attitude
18:14 < voidstar> in part at least
18:15 < grumplestiltzkin> Casteil: you might bring a chick-fil-a platter to work next friday, for funsies
18:19 < ravioli> so... i want to be able to run a report on my unix machine (or unix machines that i admin) that gives me a list of processes and their associated bandwidth usage over a certain amount of time. so i'd be able to run "bandwidthhog --pastweek" and it would print the highest bandwidth usage processes over the last 7 days.
18:20 < ravioli> is there something that exists already that will do that?
18:20 < Hatter> why didn't anyone say yesterday was National Burrito day?
18:20 < Hatter> I completely missed it, now I have to wait till next year
18:21 < asimon> Hatter: You didn't ask
18:21 < Hatter> !report asimon snarky comments
18:21 < asimon> What
18:21 < asimon> that's not even a valid reason
18:21 < Sousapro> hey folks, I need help :/
18:22 < GrandWizardZippy> abakedapplepie: comcast is fucking worthless
18:22 < voidstar> ravioli, there's the nethogs package
18:22 < Sousapro> I need to update the alias and email address of an Azure AD synced Distribution Group
18:22 < Sousapro> I've updated everything in AD on my end here
18:22 < Sousapro> all microsoft docs say to do it locally
18:22 < Sousapro> I have no exchange server locally
18:23 < Sousapro> Exchange Online says to change it locally
18:23 < voidstar> ravioli, https://linux.die.net/man/8/nethogs not sure what flavor of unix you're running
18:34 < ravioli> voidstar: MacOS
18:34 < Hempux> Hola amigos
18:36 < ravioli> voidstar: thank you :)
18:36 <+AnonymooseWork> Sousapro - no exchange server local? so no hybrid?
18:36 < Sousapro> correct
18:36 < Sousapro> otherwise this would already be fixed
18:36 <+AnonymooseWork> IIRC you can login to the O365 Admin portal and update the DL?
18:36 < Sousapro> it says it's synced from AD and to edit it locally
18:36 <+AnonymooseWork> oh
18:36 <+AnonymooseWork> shit
18:36 < Sousapro> yeah
18:37 < Sousapro> bad things (tm)
18:37 <+AnonymooseWork> dang
18:38 < Stoob> welp guess its time to spin up a local exchange server Sousapro
18:38 <+AnonymooseWork> setup a local server for management purposes?
18:38 < Stoob> :|
18:38 <+AnonymooseWork> what kind of O365 license you have?
18:39 <+AnonymooseWork> if its E3+ you get 2x licenses for non mailbox exchange servers for the purposes of management
18:39 < Sousapro> E3
18:39 < Sousapro> LOL
18:39 < Sousapro> well I guess I could
18:39 < Sousapro> that's hilarious
18:40 < dragonfleas> can i join a linux box to AD?
18:40 <+AnonymooseWork> sure
18:40 < Sousapro> "I need to spin up a local EX2016 instance for management purposes"
18:40 <+AnonymooseWork> you need to use ssdd and realmd
18:40 < Stoob> through samba, like the lord, all things are possible
18:40  * Sousapro gets laser beamed by boss
18:40 < dragonfleas> is it super difficult to do?
18:40 < Sousapro> what are you hoping to get from this?
18:40 < Stoob> it's not super difficult to do, but you really won't gain much benefit from just joining to AD
18:40 <+AnonymooseWork> Sousapro tbf MS tells you when you are doing an O365 migration that having the management server is recomended
18:41 < dragonfleas> Just organizationally i want it there
18:41 <+AnonymooseWork> oh, Sousapro you could TRY (and a big try here) to use powershell ot manage said DL
18:41 < Sousapro> yeah, I'll look at doing that soon
18:41 <@JollyRgrs> i'm looking at going home early
18:41 < dragonfleas> i can't figure out how to get osticket mailing to work
18:41 <@JollyRgrs> and "WFH" the rest of the day
18:42 < Nightcinder> i would love to WFH
18:42 < voidstar> the dream
18:42 < Nightcinder> my GF is on her way over
18:42 <@JollyRgrs> Nightcinder: why do you think i'm going to WFH at your house this afternoon?
18:42 <@JollyRgrs> just let me know if you are planning to be home earlier than normal, pls
18:43 < Stoob> so help me dragonfleas with that osticket mail
18:43 < Nightcinder> JollyRgrs: pet my cat pls
18:43  * Stoob shakes fist
18:43 < Nightcinder> she's lonely
18:43 <@JollyRgrs> Nightcinder: will do, you know i like petting your pussy
18:43 < dragonfleas> Stoob, it's tough dude, i've tried all sorts of combinations of settings, tinkering with relaying, trying an SMTP server, i'm missing something and i'm unaware what it is
18:43 < Nightcinder> ty
18:43 < Nightcinder> just don't try actually working
18:44 < Nightcinder> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ohBrGCNw/image.png
18:44 < Nightcinder> she doesn't like it
18:44 < asimon> This might be a long shot but does anyone know of an outlook plugin or similar to add a visual indication of the structure of an email reply chain?
18:44 <+AnonymooseWork> JollyRgrs... heavy petting?
18:44 < asimon> I feel like there should be a way to view the history of a conversation and where all the different branches are
18:44 < Stoob> im tellin ya it's domain based, so adding a relay between the osticket and exchange isn't likely to help. at a guess from yesterday, it's most likely the from address that is being rejected due to not having a proper domain on it
18:45 < Stoob> that is, if you're still getting the 550 senderID PRA domain not found error
18:45 < Stoob> that or DNS isn't set correctly on your exchange to find said domain
18:46 < Atusid> Has anyone had any experience with a nation-wide recruiter?
18:46 < Stoob> basically the right way to troubleshoot it is to get a packet cap from a known working send and compare it against a packet cap from the non-working one
18:47 < Stoob> assuming neither one uses encryption. if they do then you're stuck with whatever logs exchange will give you (which can be quite verbose if you make em so)
18:47 < dragonfleas> Stoob, but i put a domain name that I have for exchange on the emails
18:47 < Stoob> doesn't mean exchange has to like it
18:47 < dragonfleas> it's our companywebsiteemail.com domain
18:47 <@JollyRgrs> Atusid: what's your question
18:48 < dragonfleas> Stoob, it works fine with PRTG
18:48 < Atusid> JollyRgrs: Did you like them, and who were they? I'm looking to relocate to pretty much anywhere.
18:48 < Stoob> you say that dragonfleas, so find the difference between the osticket and prtg. look either in packet captures or exchange logs and see where they diverge
18:49 <@JollyRgrs> Atusid: tbh, i dunno... i mean, i got hired on at my current job via a recruiter that was local, but nation wide recruiting company
18:49 <@JollyRgrs> i think they have databases... but i normally get hit up on linkedin for jobs out of state... sometimes an in-house recruiter, othertimes not...
18:49 < Stoob> if you dont want to mess with packet caps, you'd be looking at exchange "transport logs" which you do have to enable separately (I don't believe they're on by default)
18:49 <@JollyRgrs> but in general, they get jobs that you might not even see posted
18:50 <@JollyRgrs> or the ones you see posted are all being posted by the recruiters, not the company... so you end up going through one anyways
18:50 < Atusid> JollyRgrs: I haven't had much luck with LinkedIn, or even Indeed.
18:50 < Atusid> I was hoping to find a recruiter that could help out, but I don't want to stay in my local area.
18:50 <@JollyRgrs> Atusid: i guess it DOE and how well you carry yourself
18:50 < Atusid> DOE?
18:51 < Stoob> depends on experience
18:51 < Atusid> JollyRgrs: 8+ years in systems, and professionally.
18:51 < Atusid> Thanks, Stoob
18:52 <@JollyRgrs> Atusid: and you have that laid out on your linkedin?
18:52 <@JollyRgrs> also linkedin now has a flag to say "i'm currently open for new opportunities"
18:52 < Atusid> Yep, and yep.
18:52 <@JollyRgrs> maybe SCCM is just less needed, but i get hit up for sysadmin jobs, too
18:52 <@JollyRgrs> and i don't even have a profile pic (thanks for reminding me linkedin... over and over and over)
18:53 < Hatter> JollyRgrs: why is capturing an image from hyper-v soooooo slow
18:53 <@JollyRgrs> do you get any "you came up in X number searches this week" or "X many people viewed your profile"?
18:53 < Atusid> I don't have too much experience in SCCM.
18:53 < Atusid> I also don't have a profile pic.
18:53 < Hatter> oh you're already helping a customer, sorry about that
18:53 <@JollyRgrs> Hatter: maybe it is the HW the hyper-v is on?
18:53 < Hatter> JollyRgrs: well obviously
18:53 < Atusid> JollyRgrs: I get 9-15 views/week
18:53 <@JollyRgrs> so why are you asking me about it... if you know it is running on POS, there's your answer
18:54 <@JollyRgrs> Atusid: but no one msgs you? they just view and move on?
18:54 <+abakedapplepie> lol
18:54 < Atusid> JollyRgrs: I've only gotten contacted for entry-level help desk, and crappy msp positions.
18:54 <+abakedapplepie> msp is fun
18:54 <+abakedapplepie> never boring, always learning
18:54 <@JollyRgrs> what is the last title you have on your linkedin status?
18:55 < grumplestiltzkin> rockstar guru
18:55 <@JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: that might be true, but MSP is not a good path to move up... way too much stress
18:55 <+abakedapplepie> not to move up
18:55 < grumplestiltzkin> cloud rockstar guru
18:55 <+abakedapplepie> but to get experience
18:55 < voidstar> dovecot divinator
18:55 < vinrock> expeience deez nuts in yo mouf
18:55 <@JollyRgrs> he's already at 8 yrs exp
18:55 <+abakedapplepie> also, i dont really get much stress at my job
18:55 <+abakedapplepie> but i am also no longer doing tickets
18:55 <+abakedapplepie> \o/
18:55 <@JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie also gets 12.50/hr pay, too :P
18:56 <+abakedapplepie> lol
18:56 <+abakedapplepie> im the unofficial official "programmer"
18:56 <+abakedapplepie> so i just get stupid projects
18:56 < vinrock> rockstar brogrammer
18:56 <+abakedapplepie> like "make this erp report in excel please"
18:56 <+abakedapplepie> and then i bill $3k for it
18:56 < voidstar> o.o
18:56 <+abakedapplepie> lol
18:57 <+abakedapplepie> and doing stupid  things like turning confluence into a service dashboard
18:57 <+abakedapplepie> probably one of the dumbest things ive ever heard
18:57 <+abakedapplepie> but its working
18:58 < Stoob> grumplestiltzkin: that's your problem, it needs to be blockchain rockstar guru
19:03 < Gencade> hi guys
19:05 < Stoob> that's guys and gals ot you
19:05 < Stoob> to*
19:06 < voidstar> no need to be bossy
19:07 < snarkadmin> McDonaldsWiFi, you around
19:14 < m4221> Has anyone been through a SOC 1 audit?
19:19 <+NinjaStyle> anyone in here in Houston?
19:20 < Stoob> isn't that primarily a financial audit, m4221?
19:25 < admiralspark> Morning folks
19:25 < Atusid> hihi
19:25 < admiralspark> it is morning still I think
19:26 < BonKurei> Still morning in Frisco
19:26 < DrGibby|> but, is it Friday?
19:27 < admiralspark> DrGibby|: don't you link that video
19:27 < DrGibby|> .yt friday
19:27 < BonKurei> Its saturday in our beijing office
19:27 < admiralspark> the bot not working?
19:27 < admiralspark> layer-eight: come back
19:28 < DrGibby|> come back layer-eight, you're my only hope
19:29 < admiralspark> anyone here using Fortianalyzer? Chrome 65 seems to have broken it...I'm having to use that disgusting blue E on my desktop for it
19:29 < admiralspark> I'
19:30 < admiralspark> I'm way too lazy to reinstall chrome64 when I could just add another browser to my toolbar though
19:34 < SOLxCrono> what looks better on an entry level resume, server 2016 mcsa or cloud platform mcsa?
19:34 < SOLxCrono> my preference would be cloud but having a job sooner rather than later would be better
19:34 < Markisking> test
19:34 < Heresiarch> SOLxCrono: neither, though the cloud platform mcsa might impress PHBs that don't know better.
19:35 < BonKurei> I used to send test emails with ping in the subject field and sometimes people would respond pong
19:35 < SOLxCrono> why neither?
19:36 < Heresiarch> SOLxCrono: entry level == have a decent grasp of basics, and be hungry to learn.
19:36 < DrGibby|> mistiry: can I have my +v back pls
19:37 < SOLxCrono> i'm in a very competitive environment
19:37 < Heresiarch> SOLxCrono: certs are irrelevant to this, and in an entry-level position may signal that they'll have to spend time un-training what you've picked up from the cert.
19:47 < kronis> Afternoon folks
19:48 < Markisking> hia
19:49 < kronis> Anyone dealt with phpkb 7.5?
19:51 < Sousapro> SOLxCrono: you'll have to be careful here. There's a lot of folks that think that certs and education are almost completely useless
19:52 < voidstar> my application for a sys admin 1 position was just put on hold and the position was removed from their hr page. :|
19:52 < vinrock> thats because it was only listed for legal purposes, they already had someone for the position
19:53 < voidstar> sounds about right
19:54 < voidstar> they didn't make the job requirements look nasty as is usually the case in that instance
19:54 < corn266> Good lord if today moved any slower it'd be going in reverse
19:59 <+MillerBOSS> .bofh
19:59 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS, BOFH says: network down, IP packets delivered via UPS
19:59 <+MillerBOSS> Better call Federal Express
20:00 < voidstar> better spin up the pcap to floppy machine
20:02 <+MillerBOSS> Stannnnd back
20:03 < DrGibby|> not again!
20:04 <+MillerBOSS> Again again again
20:13 < DrGibby|> NO!
20:13 <+MillerBOSS> Aww
20:17 <+MillerBOSS> Why are you all sleeping? Its FRiDAY
20:17 <+MillerBOSS> .yt friday
20:17 <+layer-eight> YouTube Rebecca Black - Friday - https://youtu.be/kfVsfOSbJY0
20:17 <+MillerBOSS> .yt friday
20:17 <+layer-eight> YouTube Rebecca Black - Friday - https://youtu.be/kfVsfOSbJY0
20:17 <+MillerBOSS> .yt friday
20:17 <+layer-eight> YouTube Rebecca Black - Friday - https://youtu.be/kfVsfOSbJY0
20:17 <+MillerBOSS> Weeeeee
20:17 < BonKurei> .yt numa numa
20:17 <+layer-eight> YouTube Numa Numa Lyrics - https://youtu.be/cB1cqc23W2E
20:17 < corn266> MillerBOSS: this is why we can't have nice things
20:17 <+MillerBOSS> Did someone die?
20:18 <+MillerBOSS> .yt numa numa original
20:18 <+layer-eight> YouTube Numa Numa Original Music Video (Dragostea din tei) - https://youtu.be/0HR4hp_-kSI
20:18 <+MillerBOSS> Da fuck
20:18 < DrGibby|> .yt numa numa kid
20:18 <+layer-eight> YouTube Numa Numa - https://youtu.be/KmtzQCSh6xk
20:18 < Heresiarch> MillerBOSS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIMrFpnfvyI
20:18 <+layer-eight> YouTube You Go to hell and You die.avi by 2011-10-21T19:31:10.000Z (duration: 4s) on Sat Oct 22 02:31:10 UTC 2011, 2011-10-21T19:31:10.000Z views
20:18 <+MillerBOSS> High five DrGibby|
20:19 < DrGibby|> MillerBOSS: lurn2internet
20:19 <+MillerBOSS> But I am new here
20:19 < DrGibby|> apparently
20:21 <+MillerBOSS> Thanks for that Heresiarch
20:22 < Heresiarch> MillerBOSS: got'chu, fam. More seriously: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXm8JdC4k4c
20:22 <+layer-eight> YouTube Shipping Up To Boston / Enter Sandman - Bagpipe Cover (Goddesses of Bagpipe) by 2018-03-16T16:03:50.000Z (duration: 4:33) on Fri Mar 16 23:03:50 UTC 2018, 2018-03-16T16:03:50.000Z views
20:22  * MillerBOSS clicks play
20:23 <+MillerBOSS> Makes me feel like I shouldn't watch this with out a beer in my hand
20:24 < Heresiarch> probably true.
20:24 < DrGibby|> I like these women :)
20:24 <+MillerBOSS> You know I wonder if anyone still think Microsoft when they hear "MSNBC"
20:24 <+MillerBOSS> Random I know but I was listening to the radio on the way to work and MSNBC was the topic
20:25 <+NinjaStyle> Houston is the 4th most populous city in the USA and no one in here lives here?
20:25 < DrGibby|> MillerBOSS: I do
20:25 <+MillerBOSS> I bet some people do but I wonder if Microsoft wants them to change the name to distance themselves from MSNBC's image
20:26 <+MillerBOSS> Good video Heresiarch thanks
20:26 <+NinjaStyle> so I had an interview this morning and waiting area had a tv tuned to fox news
20:26 <+NinjaStyle> that was a cringey 15 minutes
20:27 < Heresiarch> MillerBOSS: you bet. Had to do something to balance Rebecca Black. ;)
20:27 <+MillerBOSS> lol
20:27 < DrGibby|> Whoa now, Rebecca Black is an outstanding vocalist
20:27 <+MillerBOSS> Naturally
20:27 < gnupluslinux> DrGibby|, ++
20:28 < corn266> Rebecca black sounds like she holds her nose closed when she sings
20:29 < admiralspark> Autotuuuuune
20:29 < Heresiarch> DrGibby|: bubblegum pop must be taken in small and infrequent doses, regardless of the skill of the vocalist.
20:29 <+MillerBOSS> I sound that way period. Deviated septum
20:29 <+MillerBOSS> Can hardly breathe out of my nose
20:30 < BonKurei> .yt harder to breathe acoustic
20:30 <+layer-eight> YouTube Harder To Breathe (Acoustic) - https://youtu.be/tUQSFnfdcpg
20:30 <+MillerBOSS> OK DomLS3
20:30 <+MillerBOSS> Thats like Creed
20:30 <+MillerBOSS> :P
20:31 < DrGibby|> I enjoy Maroon 5
20:31 <+MillerBOSS> I am sure you do. :P
20:31 < DrGibby|> at least their older stuff
20:31 < DrGibby|> and this version sucks
20:32 < admiralspark> hey, layer-eight is back!
20:32 < admiralspark> s/hey/yay
20:32 <+layer-eight> admiralspark meant: "yay, layer-eight is back!"
20:33 <+MillerBOSS> A reincarnation
20:34 < DrGibby|> a zombie jesus, if you will
20:35 < tapoxi> s/back/a real boy
20:35 <+layer-eight> admiralspark meant: "yay, layer-eight is a real boy!"
20:35 < tapoxi> pfsense
20:35 < tapoxi> anyone use it
20:36 <+MillerBOSS> Of course
20:36 < Heresiarch> tapoxi: yus.
20:37 <@cryptic1> sorry guys but you abused it again
20:38 <@cryptic1> blame DrGibby| and tapoxi
20:38 < DrGibby|> wait what?
20:38 <+MillerBOSS> Don't take out abusing your monkey on layer-eight
20:38 < DrGibby|> I don't abuse layer-eight
20:38 <+MillerBOSS> :P
20:38 < DrGibby|> :(
20:38 <+MillerBOSS> DrGibby| = triggered
20:38 < DrGibby|> fuk u cryptic1 U NAZI OP
20:38 <+MillerBOSS> dbcc 👉 ban DrGibby| for 1 month. GO!
20:39 <+MillerBOSS> lol
20:39 <@cryptic1> PERM BANTS
20:39 <+MillerBOSS> DrGibby| = triggered
20:39 < DrGibby|> wouldn't be the first time, MillerBOSS
20:39 <+MillerBOSS> I know. :P
20:39 < DrGibby|> the ban anyway
20:39 <@cryptic1> is it friday?
20:39 < DrGibby|> no
20:39 <@cryptic1> damn it
20:39 <+abakedapplepie> its thursday 2.0
20:39 < DrGibby|> cryptic1: I hope every day for the rest of your life is monday
20:40 <+abakedapplepie> rude
20:40 < DrGibby|> #crude**
20:40 <+MillerBOSS> #meetoo**
20:40 < grumplestiltzkin> #donger **
20:41 < BonKurei> He had pizza #meetoo
20:41 <+MillerBOSS> #yourmom**
20:41 <+MillerBOSS> #reddit-sysadmin-support**
20:45 < grumplestiltzkin> s/min/mom
20:45 <+MillerBOSS> What are people using as a web application to give to a vendor (URL) to say hey click this link to schedule a call and the website will show times available so a time is scheduled and I am not receiving a call back when ever?
20:46 <+MillerBOSS> And said application knows what my calendar available times are.
20:46 <+MillerBOSS> And Yes and I know I can Google that but figured someone may be using something and I could know their thoughts on the serve they use
20:48 <+MillerBOSS> Hell I don't even know what that would be called to Google it. I know I've seen other vendors share a link to do that before
20:49  * cryptic1 sets mode -v DrGibby| 
20:50 < Casteil> heh
20:50 <+MillerBOSS> Well it looks like https://calendly.com is one of em
20:50  * cryptic1 sets mode -v tapoxi 
20:50 < tapoxi> I HAD +V ???
20:50 < tapoxi> my life is ruined
20:50  * grumplestiltzkin sets mode +v tapoxi
20:50 < Casteil> boss took me out to lunch today because I reminded him that it's been a year since we ditched our old software and got forced to go live with our (premature) software we were (and still are) working on
20:50 < tapoxi> phew
20:51 < Casteil> basically to celebrate the fact that it didn't crash and burn and we both still have jobs
20:53 < corn266> Congrats Casteil
20:54 < Hatter> my refernce image is like 2 gig bigger now that I've done it through Hyper-V, I thought it was going to be smaller! What the heck!
20:55 < corn266> That's Microsoft Efficiency(TM)
20:55 < tapoxi> Casteil: whats the new software
20:56 < Casteil> tapoxi: we created a sales/service software (for vehicles) from scratch
20:56 < tapoxi> oh boy
20:56 < tapoxi> what lang
20:57 < Casteil> C# .net
20:57 < Casteil> webapp
20:57 < tapoxi> ooh
20:58 < tapoxi> hows c# for webapps?
20:58 < tapoxi> only C# devs I know are unity devs
20:58 < BonKurei> .net is c#
20:58 < BonKurei> Plenty of jobs here for it
20:59 < BonKurei> But probably not a demanding language worldwide
20:59 < kunparekh18> hello! i'm new here. I need some help... is it okay if I ask my questions here?
20:59 < corn266> Doesn't C# have case sensitive syntax when declaring methods/variables?
21:00 < Heresiarch> kunparekh18: Ask away. We make no guarantees to answers or usefulness of answers.
21:00 < corn266> wHaTs A cOMpUter
21:01 < kunparekh18> alright... so here goes. I'm a student managing a CentOS box on campus running on the college intranet, and it's used to host a couple of student websites. For the last few weeks there has been an issue with Internet on the server I haven't been able to fix. Basically, websites on the (external) Internet simply cannot be accessed from the server - by wget/curl/firefox/etc. while websites on the intranet can
21:01 < kunparekh18> The error message I get is "connection refused". Ping and SSH works. It's just HTTP that doesn't. There are no iptables rules in place, and there isn't a problem with the campus intranet router because I tried accessing websites like google and reddit on an Ubuntu livecd I booted on the server and it worked without a hitch
21:01 < kunparekh18> i'd really appreciate it if any of you could guide me and point me in the right direction
21:02 < tapoxi> kunparekh18: what about curl -v
21:02 < tapoxi> and inbound traffic works?
21:02 < kunparekh18> @tapoxi "connection refused" on IPv4 and "network is unreachable" on ipv6
21:02 < Heresiarch> kunparekh18: sounds like whatever's upstream on the network isn't allowing http. Might want to check with whoever runs the uplink connection for the intranet router.
21:03 < tapoxi> ya if there's no iptables rules somethings fuckin with ya
21:03 < kunparekh18> @Heresiarch i'll try checking with them... but if that's the case why would another OS running on the same machine have no issues
21:03 < Heresiarch> kunparekh18: is the other OS windows?
21:04 < kunparekh18> no, ubuntu
21:04 < tapoxi> kunparekh18: OH so cent is a VM?
21:04 < tapoxi> kunparekh18: whats your hypervisor
21:04 < kunparekh18> i tried an ubuntu livecd
21:04 < kunparekh18> centos isn't a vm
21:04 < Heresiarch> the plot thickens.
21:04 < kunparekh18> sorry if that wasn't clear
21:04 < tapoxi> kunparekh18: can you hit stuff by IP alone? whats your /etc/hosts ?
21:04 < Heresiarch> kunparekh18: did you check the network settings (IP/subnet/gateway) on the ubuntu install vs the centos?
21:05 < kunparekh18> @Heresiarch that's the first thing I did, they were configured to be the exact same between both
21:05 < kunparekh18> @Tapoxi nope, same issue
21:05 < tapoxi> what version of centos?
21:06 < kunparekh18> 7.4.1708 (core)
21:06 < Heresiarch> interesting. Are there any proxy settings defined on the centos install?
21:08 < kunparekh18> i did this experiment where i just ran "wget google.com" in a loop 300 times. out of the couple of times i ran the script around 3-4 times out of 300 times the connection was a success and i had index.htmls in the directory
21:08 < kunparekh18> @Heresiarch none that I know of, how do I do a quick check?
21:09 < kunparekh18> i did env | grep -i proxy and got no output
21:09 < Heresiarch> kunparekh18: env | egrep -i 'https_proxy|http_proxy'
21:09 < kunparekh18> nope, no output on that too
21:11 < Heresiarch> so DNS works, other protocols work outbound. The ubuntu livecd had no issues at all. The network configs for both ubuntu and centos are identical. See if you can get tcptraceroute installed on the centos installation and see where the block is.
21:11 < Pichet_> a "curl -v" on a website that doesn't work could really be useful
21:11 < kunparekh18> @tapoxi /etc/hosts just has "127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain localhost4 localhost4.localdomain4" and "::1 localhost localhost.localdomain localhost6 localhost6.localdomain6"
21:12 <+tapoxi> normal
21:12 <+tapoxi> goddamn you and you mysteries
21:12 <+tapoxi> what's the curl -v output?
21:12 < kunparekh18> here's the output of "curl -v www.google.com": https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZfNkqgC7DS/
21:13 < kunparekh18> @Heresiarch I have tcptraceroute installed, what tests do I do?
21:13 < Heresiarch> kunparekh18: well then...that does help.
21:13 < Heresiarch> kunparekh18: disable ipv6 on the centos box.
21:13 < Heresiarch> (for one)
21:14 <+tapoxi> kunparekh18: can you print your routes
21:14 < Heresiarch> for two, tcptraceroute -p 80 -4 www.google.com
21:17 < kunparekh18> here's the output of tcptraceroute and route : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5zNzR7Sp4m/
21:17 < kunparekh18> sorry, the paste says traceroute but what i executed was tcptraceroute
21:17 < Heresiarch> yup
21:17 < grumplestiltzkin> s/tcptraceroute/triceratops
21:17 <+layer-eight> kunparekh18 meant: "sorry, the paste says traceroute but what i executed was triceratops"
21:18 < Heresiarch> kunparekh18: whatever it is, it's just upstream of your router.
21:18 < Heresiarch> kunparekh18: does the school run a web proxy?
21:19 < kunparekh18> are you sure that explains it working fine on the livecd? also no web proxies are in use afaik
21:19 < Heresiarch> kunparekh18: no, but in the absence of any other verified information it's a good place to start.
21:21 < tsarbomba> hello sexy people
21:21 < admiralspark> sup tsarbomba
21:22 < Sousapro> oh hai tsarbomba. how's your sex life, eh?
21:23 < Sousapro> we should go get dressed in tuxes and throw a football around for no apparent reason
21:24 < tsarbomba> that sounds hot
21:24 < tsarbomba> this has been an enjoyable read-only friday
21:24 < tsarbomba> j/k i've been frantically trying to fix ipsec tunnels
21:25 < admiralspark> tsarbomba: cisco clock issues? :P
21:25 < tsarbomba> worse. pfsense bug issues.
21:25 < admiralspark> :(
21:25 < admiralspark> 2.4.3 bug?
21:25 < tsarbomba> with a helping dose of total shitshow configuration by my predecessor
21:26 < admiralspark> oh
21:26 < tsarbomba> so you can see how long it's been since this was addressed as far as best pracs go
21:26 < admiralspark> I think we chatted about this yesterday
21:26 < tsarbomba> since i've been here for 3 years come august
21:26 < tsarbomba> this is an offshoot of yesterday
21:26 < admiralspark> ahhh
21:26 < tsarbomba> yesterday was WHAT THE FUCK MY FIREWALL JUST FAILED BECAUSE OF CONFIG RESTORE
21:26 < tsarbomba> this is one of the leftover problems after i got the bulk of the functionality working
21:27 < kunparekh18> @Heresiarch alright... any other tests i can do? i tried tunneling with sshuttle through my laptop (which is on the same intranet) and the problem of wget is fixed but stuff like letsencrypt cert renewal doesn't work because their server can't connect to the site running on my server (connection refused again)
21:27 < tsarbomba> the good part is i think i'm going to get the budget for failover firewalls at both critical sites
21:27 < admiralspark> tsarbomba: Good luck, I'll down some whisky in your honor
21:27 < tsarbomba> funny how the money wheels get greased when the HR and billing folks feel just the tiniest amount of pain from a hardware failure
21:28 < tsarbomba> admiralspark, cheers. make it an islay single-malt :D
21:28 < admiralspark> yep, odd how business works that way
21:28 < admiralspark> haha, was going for Bourbon actually, US here ;)
21:28 < tsarbomba> i'm in the US too but i'm all about the scotch :D
21:28 < admiralspark> ahhhh, I know a few like that. I have a single bottle, can't afford to be a scotch fiend yet
21:29 < Sousapro> tsarbomba: slow outlook? M.2 Raid 0 in a laptop approved
21:29 < tsarbomba> laphroaig 18 or older is always an essential
21:29 < Heresiarch> kunparekh18: worst case there, you can use the DNS-01 challenge rather than TLS-01/HTTP-01. That said, are inbound connections also being blocked?
21:30 < Sousapro> I'm trying to develop a taste for scotch
21:30 < tsarbomba> sousapro, that's one way to get a hardware upgrade
21:30 < Sousapro> I <3 whiskey/bourbon though
21:30 < Sousapro> tsarbomba: it's still gotta fix it though
21:30 < Sousapro> they get really salty if it doesn't
21:30 < tsarbomba> at some point in my 30s i transitioned from a vodka guy to a scotch guy
21:30 < tsarbomba> nowadays i almost never drink vodka. i had a screwdriver early in the ncaa football season at a bar, that was the last time
21:32 < kunparekh18> Heresiarch: i'll try doing that then. I can access the websites hosted on the server once i add the security exception on my browser from clients both on the intranet and outside it
21:33 < Heresiarch> kunparekh18: ...security exception?
21:33 < admiralspark> Heresiarch: IE trusted sites-style
21:34 < DrGibby|> https://i.imgur.com/GP4Srn2.png
21:34 < kunparekh18> what you get when you try to access websites with expired ssl certificates on your browser
21:35 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji5_MqicxSo
21:35 <+layer-eight> YouTube Randy Pausch Last Lecture: Achieving Your Childhood Dreams by 2007-12-20T21:05:00.000Z (duration: 1:16:27) on Fri Dec 21 04:05:00 UTC 2007, 2007-12-20T21:05:00.000Z views
21:41 < vinrock> "Rand said the last few years Lyle told him that he "missed his brother so much. And Erik had also talked about how much he missed Lyle. So this is just an overwhelming, emotional, happy moment for not only the brothers but their entire family.""
21:41 < vinrock> lolwtf abc news
21:41 < vinrock> last line in an article about the menendez brothers
21:43 < Hatter> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy9Z-Tg6ufU
21:43 <+layer-eight> YouTube "Asian gang".. "I'm pretty sure it was... Asian." by 2013-01-16T06:32:03.000Z (duration: 35s) on Wed Jan 16 13:32:03 UTC 2013, 2013-01-16T06:32:03.000Z views
21:44 < coderphive> I just ran into a dev from Houston on /r/devops and unsurprisingly he was an idiot
21:44 < coderphive> This time not just because he's a reddit user
21:44 < Hatter> coderphive: woah be careful they might in here
21:44 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: and not just b/c he's from houston, either?
21:44 < coderphive> haha good
21:45 < coderphive> JollyRgrs You right
21:45 < coderphive> BUT
21:45 < mal_will> Does anyone in here use Solarwinds' SIEM?
21:45 < coderphive> if you homies like terraform
21:45 < coderphive> https://mattouille.com/articles/2018-04/statefile-separation
21:46 < coderphive> you can read on my terraform mansplaining
21:46 < admiralspark> sexy
21:46 < vinrock> dont you mansplain what to do with my eyes
21:46 < admiralspark> mal_will: no, but I don't think I have enough licensing contracts to even google it
21:46 < coderphive> vinrock take your little eyeballs and read my damn blog
21:47 < vinrock> REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
21:47 < mal_will> lol, right? I just want a somewhat reliable estimate of actual costs
21:47 < mal_will> but no salesman calling me
21:49 < vinrock> i had an awesome cdw rep for a while that would take the heat for me
21:50 < vinrock> she moved on now im back to just a normal who-gives-a-shit salesrep
21:50 < vinrock> had a good vzw account manager too and she was hot
21:50 < vinrock> since then ive had two new ones that seem more like salespeople
21:50 < vinrock> :|
21:51 < coderphive> rip
21:51 < BonKurei> what did the vzw manager look like?
21:51 < coderphive> I'm a pretty fit nerd, I get all the sales girls at conventions trying to sell me shit
21:51 < vinrock> mid 20s blond fit nice to look at
21:51 < coderphive> The one time in my life I'd rather talk code than go on a date and that's all that's going on here
21:52 < vinrock> i dont really give salespeople any of my time unless they shower me in gifts
21:52 < coderphive> that's a good policy
21:52 < vinrock> and if they call unsolicited ohh man i aint never buying shit from you
21:54 < coderphive> I really want to find out who this dev is and put him on a blacklist
21:55 < coderphive> is that wrong of me?
21:56 < Stoob> depends what dev
21:56 < Heresiarch> Wrong? Probably. Pointless, and/or stupid? Certainly.
21:57 < vinrock> it's the internet maybe he's just roleplaying
21:57 < coderphive> I'm not going to waste my time, he's just obviously a neanderthal
21:58 < BonKurei> .yt cream cash
21:58 <+layer-eight> YouTube Wu-Tang Clan - C.R.E.A.M. - https://youtu.be/PBwAxmrE194
21:59 < tsarbomba> what's the best way to convince developers that if they allow users access to a certain function that, if used improperly, might break their workflow, it is incumbent upon them (the devs) to make the product bulletproof. not the customer.
22:00 < Heresiarch> tsarbomba: https://xkcd.com/327/
22:00 < tsarbomba> i was considering bringing in my remington 700
22:00 < coderphive> That statement needs a lot more context
22:00 < tsarbomba> heresiarch, there really is an xkcd for everything
22:00 < vinrock> rather than trying to convince them just tell them to git gud or gtfo
22:00 < tsarbomba> coderphive, no, it really doesn't
22:01 < tsarbomba> if you have included functionality for a user, and the improperly-timed use of that functionality breaks normal workflow, it's not the customer's fault
22:01 < tsarbomba> though i suspect devs and devoops will take offense because, well, what the fuck else are they good for
22:01 < coderphive> heh
22:01 < tsarbomba> or, as drgibby would say
22:01 < coderphive> so many devops haters here
22:01 < coderphive> smells of old
22:01 < coderphive> jk
22:01 < tsarbomba> DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS
22:02 < coderphive> So, are we talking use of asynchronous functions when used with synchronous ones?
22:02 < coderphive> Resulting in some catastrophic application failure?
22:02 < tsarbomba> more of status changes when used in the middle of updating a document
22:02 < DrGibby|> .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE
22:02 < Heresiarch> coderphive: ...I am old. I am devops. I reserve the right to hate some of the bits of devops, even if devops-like processes have improved systems engineering as a whole.
22:02 <+layer-eight> YouTube Developers by 2006-01-25T05:28:25.000Z (duration: 3:02) on Wed Jan 25 12:28:25 UTC 2006, 2006-01-25T05:28:25.000Z views
22:03 < tsarbomba> roughly, a user has the abiilty to change his or her role in the program. if they do this in the middle of creating a document (part of the usual customer workflow) and then try to sign that document online, it breaks pretty much everything about that document's creation
22:03 < coderphive> Heresiarch I more point at people who reject devops in totality because they like hand rolling shit with bash
22:03 < tsarbomba> my dev just got back to me saying "this is the customer's fault"
22:03 < tsarbomba> which isn't necessarily wrong. but because we're saas it's also our fault, and that's a fundamental fact of our business model
22:03 < coderphive> ah
22:03 < coderphive> So, not well tested functionality then?
22:03 < tsarbomba> so now i find myself with $boss on vacation and having to convince the devs that this is something we have to fix
22:03 < tsarbomba> looks like unanticipated 'functionality'
22:03 < Heresiarch> tsarbomba: let it roll, let customers complain, file bug reports.
22:04 < coderphive> so
22:04 < tsarbomba> what microsoft calls "a feature, not a bug" :D
22:04 < coderphive> If they're on devops then they have acceptance testing
22:04 < tsarbomba> heresiarch, that's how we got this ticket in the first place :D
22:04 < tsarbomba> coderphive, i'm still trying to drag the dev team into this century :(
22:04 < coderphive> What they'll likely ask is how probably it is that this will happen
22:04 < coderphive> oh
22:04 < tsarbomba> it has manifested in increasing devops-style tasks for me which grinds my gears
22:04 < coderphive> so they're not really doing devops
22:04 < tsarbomba> but apparently that's what i'm going to have to do
22:04 < tsarbomba> yeah it's a smaller shop for now
22:04 < kuahara> Where is this non-sense rumor coming from that if you install a Fujitsu Fi-7160 driver while the scanner is connected to the PC that the installation process might physically destroy the scanner?
22:04 < Heresiarch> tsarbomba: I had an architect who initially insisted that a major security bug from a Very Large Customer was not an issue with the software. Sometimes you have to let them shoot themselves in the face.
22:05 < coderphive> shop size is regardless
22:05 < tsarbomba> agreed
22:05 < tsarbomba> just because we're small doesn't mean we need to act like it :(
22:05 < coderphive> If devops benefits you, do it holisticly
22:05 < coderphive> You can't half way do it
22:05 < tsarbomba> i'm trying to find that happy medium with my workload but it's difficult
22:05 < killdash9> you misspelled 'hostility'
22:05 < coderphive> I understand
22:05 < kuahara> My CEO said that shit to me months ago and I stumbled over a google result that spouting the same crap.   Not going to believe that until I see it happen.
22:05 < vinrock> kuahara:  that's a well known problem with the fujitsu drivers
22:05 < tsarbomba> ultimately i'd like to make a business case for a real devops guy i can work with side by side
22:05 < tsarbomba> but i don't see that until 2019 at best
22:06 < Stoob> not with that attitude
22:06 < coderphive> That'd make it easier
22:06 < tsarbomba> how does it destroy the scanner out of curiosity
22:06 < coderphive> okay
22:06 < coderphive> so
22:06 < tsarbomba> s/attitude/budget
22:06 < kuahara> vinrock, how?
22:06 <+layer-eight> Stoob meant: "not with that budget"
22:06 < coderphive> First
22:06 < kuahara> yea, same curiosity here too
22:06 < vinrock> idk im lying
22:06 < vinrock> GOTEM
22:06 < Heresiarch> tsarbomba: ...I've been where you're working. If you can proof-of-concept even a little bit of the benefit of a CM, you'll gain hugely.
22:06 < tsarbomba> could someone write a bug that destroys brother MFCs?
22:06 < coderphive> Figure out how likely it is for this to happen and how devestating it is that it happens
22:06 < vinrock> hey i actually like brother
22:07 < vinrock> theyre the only printer mfg that actually will tell me service mode codes
22:07 < kuahara> Brother has nothing on Fujitsu scanners
22:07 < coderphive> Does it take 2 minutes to fix, does it happen once a day?
22:07 < vinrock> oh fujitsu doc scanners are the best
22:07 < coderphive> No need for an immediate patch or a stop of a release then.
22:07 < kuahara> Those things are worth every penny of the $1000-1200 they cost.
22:07 < vinrock> i have a bunch of the lil scansnap ones here
22:07 < vinrock> im probably gona need to pick up a few of the big ones
22:07 < tsarbomba> heresiarch, i'd probably have better and more precise suggestions for management if i were more grounded in dev work. my background is mechanical engineering, concentration in aerospace, and the systems work i did in that field is what got me into admin/IT work. i've always been a systems guy. in mechE we only had a year of required programming, and back when i was in college it was C and C++ :D
22:08 < coderphive> What I would recommend in the future is production readiness reports and using CI/CD with testing
22:08 < coderphive> That'll save you a lot
22:08 < coderphive> of pain
22:08 < coderphive> Also
22:08 < tsarbomba> definitely something to toss around when we sit down and try to work out the kinks of this process
22:09 < coderphive> it sounds like you're in charge of absorbing production pain, that should not be the case
22:09 < coderphive> Devs should be responsible for their apps in production, you're responsible for infra failing
22:09 < Heresiarch> tsarbomba: ...you don't happen to work in a small saas/software shop that built an automated QA/validation suite in essentially VB macros, do you?
22:09 < tsarbomba> management's been all about eliminating technical debt and most of it exists in the dev arena
22:09 < coderphive> That's the way I run my orgs
22:09 < tsarbomba> heresiarch, i'd never have taken the job in that case :D
22:09 < Stoob> with lots of technical debt, most existing in the dev arena, coderphive?
22:10 < coderphive> what?
22:10 < coderphive> That's pretty typical
22:10 < tsarbomba> coderphive, yeah $boss has been slowly trying to move my personal "overton window" towards a more hybrid role
22:10 < coderphive> Most dev teams _do_ have a lot of tech debt
22:10 < Heresiarch> tsarbomba: fair enough. Just sounds awful familiar, but I guess these things are common in SMB/SaaS.
22:10 < Stoob> I was just giving you a switcheroo man
22:10 < tsarbomba> heresiarch, i'm coming to that same realization
22:10 < coderphive> oh haha
22:10 < AnimalFarmPig> <coderphive> Devs should be responsible for their apps in production, you're responsible for infra failing   <---- as someone who works more on the dev side, fucking this 100%
22:10  * Church- has little tech debt thankfully
22:10 < tsarbomba> the ol' reddit switcheroo
22:11 < Stoob> we have more technical debt than technical assets i dont know how it happened
22:11 < AnimalFarmPig> if one of my apps fails, come find me. I will fix it. Don't fuck around with it and try to fix it yourself.
22:11 < coderphive> AnimalFarmPig the only exception to that involves SRE supported apps, which is a different animal :P
22:11 < coderphive> You need to feel the pain to make progress amirite?
22:12 < coderphive> Stoob you put your fingers on the keyboard
22:12 < AnimalFarmPig> I just don't want to argue with the "DevOps guy" (sysadmin with a different title) about how my application works
22:12 < tsarbomba> i feel better now that i was able to get my DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS rant out of the way before the weekend
22:12 < coderphive> AnimalFarmPig fair if that's how devops works in your org
22:12 < coderphive> I demand a bit more than what dallas has to offer in devops
22:12 < AnimalFarmPig> if it's a DevOps/SRE type application dealing with provisioning/maintenance of infrastructure, sure, bring in the ops guys
22:13 < coderphive> I totally get ya
22:13 < coderphive> It's a different animal
22:13 < AnimalFarmPig> yep
22:13 < coderphive> lots of frustrating "devops" types out there
22:13 < tsarbomba> i'm not all about a hard and fast wall between dev and systems but i'd also like to see the process rule out stuff that makes the customer the onus of the problem when they're literally doing nothing but logging into a web app we built
22:13 < Heresiarch> AnimalFarmPig: Devil's Advocate: arguing with devs as far as how an app works can often be beneficial for both sides.
22:13 < coderphive> devops in name only
22:13 < AnimalFarmPig> that's not how it works in my current org, but it was at a previous place
22:13 < coderphive> Heresiarch so is reading code
22:14 < coderphive> Systems fellas could just do that
22:14 < coderphive> weird
22:14 < AnimalFarmPig> Heresiarch: oh, I had great arguments with DevOps/sysadmin guy at previous place. He was a smart guy, really knew his shit, and we both got a lot out of it.
22:14 < Heresiarch> coderphive: these aren't mutually exclusive. And code isn't dispositive relative to architecture.
22:14 < coderphive> I'll brb
22:14 < coderphive> but keep that train of thought
22:14 < AnimalFarmPig> but, it was a bit tiresome when I'm got a bunch of shit to get done
22:16 <+AnonymooseWork> grumplestiltzkin you around?
22:17 <+AnonymooseWork> grumplestiltzkin, Sousapro just wanted to say thx for the assist yesterday :)
22:17 <+AnonymooseWork> wifi is working using machine/cert auth now
22:17 < gnupluslinux> i read wifi as wife and was only midly confused
22:17 < Heresiarch> AnonymooseWork: what was the fix for the VLAN stuff?
22:18 <+AnonymooseWork> hahaha gnupluslinux
22:18 < tsarbomba> http://www.ktva.com/story/37889886/moose-attack-injures-1-near-houston
22:18 <+AnonymooseWork> Heresiarch - so it was weird
22:18 <+AnonymooseWork> On Dell PowerCOnnect switches, the default vlan isn't tagged in the trunk port ?
22:18 <+AnonymooseWork> so it was really just a tagging mismatch
22:19 <+AnonymooseWork> what I did was configured the port on Dell to 'General' mode and Tagged the two vlans (50 for Prod and 101 for Guest)
22:19 <+AnonymooseWork> et voila
22:19 <+AnonymooseWork> i set the SSID for the MAIN to use vlan 50
22:19 <+AnonymooseWork> hops onto the right vlan, gets IP from Windows DHCP
22:19 <+AnonymooseWork> Authenticates via radius and machine certs
22:19 < Heresiarch> noice
22:19 <+AnonymooseWork> The guest VLAN is still a bit of a WIP
22:20 <+AnonymooseWork> it works but am having some minor issues with accessing the captive portal on the unifi controller
22:20 < Stoob> captive portal available on correct vlan? or is that even a concern with unifi
22:21 <+AnonymooseWork> Stoob no its not
22:21 <+AnonymooseWork> thats the issue
22:21 <+AnonymooseWork> all good though
22:21 <+AnonymooseWork> captive portal is on the unifi controller
22:21 <+AnonymooseWork> which is on my management vlan
22:22 <+AnonymooseWork> i just need to add an explicit allow on the switch to allow traffic from guest vlan to hit <IP of controller>
22:22 <+AnonymooseWork> i think
22:22 < kepler-> AnonymooseWork: i acutally was having some issues with that. i had to make sure that VLAN had a firewall rule that allowed it to talk to the mgmt vlan IP
22:22 <+AnonymooseWork> kepler- yea
22:22 < kepler-> you're crossing a firewall i presume, unless you're routing on the switch
22:22 <+AnonymooseWork> routing on the switch
22:22 <+AnonymooseWork> but same deal
22:23 <+AnonymooseWork> guest vlan probably doesn't have a route to that
22:23 <+AnonymooseWork> as it shouldn't :)
22:23 < kepler> well, if the switch has both subnets directly connected, unless you're using vrfs, they should be in its routing table
22:24 < kepler> but if you have an ACL denying traffic or something in/out on both l3 configs, you'll need to allow it
22:26 < kuahara> switch, two directly connected subnets.  I died a little inside.
22:26 < kepler> lots of people do routing on switches
22:27 < kepler> i'd do it if my sg300 or w/e supported NATing, then leave my firewall l2 only
22:27 < kepler> (at home)
22:27 < kuahara> The way it's worded, makes it sound like two broadcast domains
22:27 < kuahara> one switch
22:27 < kepler> i assume he has some SVI for his vlans
22:28 < tsarbomba> https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/05/zuckerberg-deleted-messages/
22:28 < kuahara> BREAKING NEWS:  I've also deleted messages.
22:28 < kepler> lol -- i don't get the outrage here. did you think this WASN'T happening??
22:29 < kepler> people are nuts
22:29 < Heresiarch> same outrage as when /u/spez modified messages in T_D.
22:29 < kuahara> It's hilarious reading a headline that discusses Zuckerberg deleting messages for security and breach of user trust in the same sentence.
22:29 < kuahara> poor Mark
22:29 < kuahara> Facebook isn't safe for him either
22:31 < br34k> zuckerberg doesn't give a fsck about his users, nor anything for that matter except having facebook making $$$$$$
22:31 < kepler> his entire platform is about breaching privacy lol. i have no illusions that google is putting together the biggest dossier it can on me based on my email/browsing habbits/what it hears on my google home
22:31 < kepler> if tomorrow said google sold all my info to russia, i would not be surprised
22:31 < grumplestiltzkin> kepler: the thing is being willfully oblivious.  People can't do it anymore with the information being public
22:32 < kuahara> Russia told me to vote for Oprah
22:32 < kuahara> because I can't think for myself anymore
22:32 < kuahara> they read my emails
22:32 < kepler> i thought it was all public that they used info to sell to advertisers. no matter who the advertisers may be
22:33 < br34k> they never confirmed it (not to my knowledge) but for anyone with half a brain it's obvious
22:34 < vinrock> (4:29:38 PM) Heresiarch: same outrage as when /u/spez modified messages in T_D.
22:34 < kuahara> I wish the who was public, because it's not ok to sell to everyone.
22:34 < vinrock> i wiped my complete reddit history dating from 2010 after that happened
22:35 < tsarbomba> s/history dating/dating history
22:35 <+layer-eight> vinrock meant: "i wiped my complete reddit dating history from 2010 after that happened"
22:36 < br34k> whenever i use any cloud service/web site, i always consider any data i put on there to be compromised..
22:36 < BonKurei> Google has been my best friend, i have an 11 inch penis and a russian wife thanks to google
22:37 < vinrock> nice
22:37 < tsarbomba> when it comes to facebook, you should have known what you were getting into when they asked for your cell phone number(s) and access to your contacts
22:37 < tsarbomba> a russian wife with an 11 inch penis. your weekends must be interesting
22:37 < kuahara> They still don't have my phone number.  At least they still pretend they don't by continuing to ask for it.
22:37 < Stoob> do I tempt fate by swapping out a failing SAN controller this afternoon?
22:37 < tsarbomba> only if you don't like having weekends
22:38 < Stoob> or do I let a san controller run without redundancy for 72 hours
22:38 < kuahara> I have an ancient FB account that predates the phone number pre-requisite
22:38 < vinrock> if it breaks are you the one that gets fired
22:38 < vinrock> suckers
22:38 < Stoob> mmmmmmmm good chance
22:38 < vinrock> ive never had any social media account
22:38 < Hatter> quick
22:38 < Hatter> where's the recent reddit url of that cool breakdancing move
22:38 < Hatter> this is a test of quickness, who will win?
22:38 < tsarbomba> didn't you just say you wiped 8 years of reddit data
22:38 < tsarbomba> reddit = social media
22:39 < vinrock> well, not with my name attached
22:39 <+AnonymooseWork> Stoob ... well it IS a failed SAN controller
22:39 < vinrock> and im careful not to expose info that can id me
22:39 < Stoob> dont worry vinrock, they still know
22:39 < vinrock> but yeah i wiped it just in case
22:39 < vinrock> oh im sure
22:39 <+AnonymooseWork> you should be able to easily swap it live?
22:39 < tsarbomba> reddit has already installed cameras in vinrock's bathroom
22:39 < Stoob> AnonymooseWork: you'd hope so
22:39 < vinrock> U/SPEZ IS WATCHING YOU POOP
22:39 <+AnonymooseWork> what kind of SAN is it?
22:39 < tsarbomba> that would be both horrifying and tittilating
22:39 < Stoob> its probably got loops of wire and crap over it that'll make it impossible to slide out
22:39 < tsarbomba> titillating
22:39 <+AnonymooseWork> ahh
22:39 < Stoob> AnonymooseWork: Equallogic
22:39 <+AnonymooseWork> yea
22:39 < tsarbomba> both them motherfucker
22:40 <+AnonymooseWork> wiring mess
22:40 <+AnonymooseWork> oh
22:40 <+AnonymooseWork> shit
22:40 <+AnonymooseWork> speaking of SAN
22:40 <+AnonymooseWork> NetApp came back to me with a revised quote
22:40 <+AnonymooseWork> holy fuck they want my business bad
22:40 < Stoob> lol
22:40 < tsarbomba> ugh you have to untangle a rat's nest AND swap a failing controller?
22:40 < kuahara> someone buy me a san for my house
22:40 < tsarbomba> i thought my friday was sucking this morning
22:40 < tsarbomba> yours might be worse
22:40 <+AnonymooseWork> kuahara - i will give you one in a few months ?
22:40 <+AnonymooseWork> it will be ancient as fuck, but ... you can have it
22:40 <+AnonymooseWork> no disks
22:40 < Stoob> well tsarbomba i dont *know* that its a rats nest... which means its a rats nest
22:40 <+AnonymooseWork> lol
22:41 < kuahara> well then
22:41 < Stoob> I had a san for my house but gave it up after a few 700 dollar electric bills
22:41 <+AnonymooseWork> lol stoob
22:41 <+AnonymooseWork> Stoob ... MD3000i or MD3200?
22:41 < Stoob> subtract 2000
22:41 <+AnonymooseWork> oh
22:41 <+AnonymooseWork> thats not a SAN thats a DAS
22:41 < tsarbomba> i refuse to get any more complicated with home storage than a nas
22:41 <+AnonymooseWork> MD1000?
22:41 < Stoob> yeah technically it was a DAS but still
22:41 <+AnonymooseWork> tsarbomba same - i have a synology 2 bay
22:41 <+AnonymooseWork> all i needs for my home us
22:41 < kuahara> I guess technically I can fit a thousand movies on an ancient san with no disks.  If I stack them just right.
22:42 < Stoob> it was hooked to a server that served it over iscsi ;)
22:42 < Hatter> you have all failed
22:42 < tsarbomba> i've got an old qnap 4-bay that can also act as an iscsi target
22:42 <+AnonymooseWork> i do have a Dell T710 with 96gb of RAM  and 8TB of disk
22:42 < tsarbomba> and even that is overkill
22:42 <+AnonymooseWork> but the T710 stays off most of the time
22:42 < Stoob> Hatter: we succeeded at quickly determining that wasn't worth our time :P
22:42 <+AnonymooseWork> hehe
22:42 <+AnonymooseWork> tsarbomba i use a qnap nas at work as an iscsi target
22:42 < Hatter> Stoob: that's a copout, you fucking failed
22:42 < Stoob> nooope
22:42 < tsarbomba> works fairly well for a cheap taiwanese device
22:42 <+AnonymooseWork> yea
22:42 < Stoob> I don't recognize your authority in fort kickass
22:42 < tsarbomba> i just wish their QA for new major firmware releases were better
22:43 <+AnonymooseWork> we use it for our veeam backup repo
22:43 < tsarbomba> in #mspland we used to drop qnaps and synologies at SMB customers for backup repositories
22:43 <+AnonymooseWork> yep
22:43 <+AnonymooseWork> ours is a more business level one
22:44 <+AnonymooseWork> but yea
22:44 < tsarbomba> i helped get my last msp off drobo
22:44 <+AnonymooseWork> its a QNAP TVS 1471
22:44 < tsarbomba> they should hold a parade in my honor every year
22:44 <+AnonymooseWork> 16 bay,
22:44 <+AnonymooseWork> 90TB Raw
22:44 < vinrock> i like the synology boxes but jaysus h christ the suport and documentation is fuckin abysmal
22:44 < vinrock> also, they need to move their shit off Hinet
22:44 < tsarbomba> seems to be a pattern with the china NASes
22:44 < tsarbomba> qnap's documentation is horrific. their forum is only slightly better because of all the "customer volunteers" that receive a measure of dorkpower on the forum
22:45 < vinrock> the synology forums is worthless
22:45 < Heresiarch> hmm. Think I'll duck out early. o/
22:45 < tsarbomba> but this all falls into the "at least it's not a drobo" pile
22:45 <+AnonymooseWork> hehe
22:45 <+AnonymooseWork> hey the qnap i have
22:45 <+AnonymooseWork> raid 6, hot spare
22:45 <+AnonymooseWork> slow but works well as a backup repo
22:45 < tsarbomba> my 4 bay is raid6 but i don't have the room for hotspare
22:45 < tsarbomba> i considered a 5 bay for a while but i didn't think i'd be using it for as long as i have
22:46 < tsarbomba> next one i get will probably be an 8 bay for overkill
22:46 <+AnonymooseWork> i'll be retiring 4x MD3000i and 3x MD1000e soon
22:46 <+AnonymooseWork> and will be flogging them on ebay
22:46 <+AnonymooseWork> surprisingly people still buy them
22:46 < Stoob> sheesh
22:46 < vinrock> ive got a synology rs815rp+ and 4 bay 1u expansion
22:46 < Stoob> it surprises me you're still using em
22:46 < vinrock> it works pretty decently
22:46 <+AnonymooseWork> Stoob that makes two of us
22:46 <+AnonymooseWork> believe me
22:47 <+AnonymooseWork> i'm SLOWLY dragging the company into the 21st century
22:47 <+AnonymooseWork> i've only been here a year though
22:47 < Stoob> I've got some stuff barely newer than that im BEGGING to get the budget to replace
22:47 <+AnonymooseWork> yep
22:47 <+AnonymooseWork> i've got budget this year
22:47 <+AnonymooseWork> so working on the plan now
22:47 <+AnonymooseWork> i'm at around 160k to do it 'properly
22:47 <+AnonymooseWork> which really is not bad
22:47 <+AnonymooseWork> all things considered
22:48 < Stoob> I'm hoping to do something even cheaper than that for the stuff ive got to replace
22:48 <+AnonymooseWork> oh
22:48 < Stoob> they're full of 1 and 2TB drives
22:48 <+AnonymooseWork> i've got to replace LOTS
22:48 <+AnonymooseWork> i have almost 100TB of space
22:49 <+AnonymooseWork> plus upgrading to 10Gbe switching
22:49 < Stoob> the unfortunate thing is that yep
22:49 <+AnonymooseWork> and new hypervisors
22:49 <+AnonymooseWork> lots of disk and lots of IO
22:49 <+AnonymooseWork> its expensive
22:49 < Stoob> I wouldn't mind just adding a new shelf that much tbh, but to get anything modern means i'd be going with 10gbE
22:49 <+AnonymooseWork> well
22:49 < Stoob> at which point, it's time to replace the whole environment
22:49 <+AnonymooseWork> new shelf? you might want to check out www.servermonkey.com
22:49 <+AnonymooseWork> but yes whole env.
22:50 <+AnonymooseWork> is the way to go
22:50 <+AnonymooseWork> at least for me
22:50 <+AnonymooseWork> i'm debating on looking at refurb servers for the hosts and getting a new SAN
22:50 < Stoob> for me too but it's a lot harder to convince execs that we need a full hardware swap than it is to point at a fileserver and say "look its got under 20% space free"
22:50 <+AnonymooseWork> but pricing for what I really want won't help much i don't think
22:51 < tsarbomba> 4 WD red pro 10TB drives for a little under $1400
22:52 < tsarbomba> hmmm
22:52 < grumplestiltzkin> felda
22:52 < vader-> i can't wait for the price of 12TB drives to drop
22:52 < dragonfleas> AnonymooseWork, coming through with the spam
22:52 < vader-> i want that and a synology
22:53 <+AnonymooseWork> dragonfleas? what?
22:53 <+AnonymooseWork> the fact i linked a vendor?
22:53 <+AnonymooseWork> not spam
22:53 <+AnonymooseWork> don't give a shit if you buy from them :)
22:53 <+AnonymooseWork> all i know is I have and have been happy
22:53 < tsarbomba> 7 minutes 'til drinkin' bar time
22:53 < tsarbomba> dragonfleas aren't you supposed to be building a slackware system
22:53 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, i haven't installed it yet at home
22:54 < Stoob> AnonymooseWork: i think he means that you hit enter a few more times than you needed to :P
22:54  * tsarbomba readies the GIANT METAL FINGER OF PROCRASTINATION
22:54 <+AnonymooseWork> well
22:54 <+AnonymooseWork> i
22:54 <+AnonymooseWork> don't
22:54 <+AnonymooseWork> care
22:54 <+AnonymooseWork> :D
22:54 < grumplestiltzkin> [enter]
22:54 <+AnonymooseWork> i'm about ready to go home, and have a beer
22:54 <+AnonymooseWork> <return>
22:54 <+AnonymooseWork> grumplestiltzkin lives! Lol
22:55 < grumplestiltzkin> for a few minutes. I'm past 40, trying not to do as much unpaid overtime these days
22:55  * rootsudo just finished his MSFT interview
22:55 <+AnonymooseWork> bluebadge?
22:55 < rootsudo> Orange v-. :(
22:55 <+AnonymooseWork> lol grumplestiltzkin
22:55 <+AnonymooseWork> i hear you man
22:55 <+AnonymooseWork> i'm well past my 37.5
22:55 < rootsudo> But I don't know, it ended the same way my old msft interview went. Arupt hang up.
22:56 < rootsudo> And I was there for 2 years. But fuck, onsite role.
22:56 <+AnonymooseWork> prolly how they do things
22:56 <+AnonymooseWork> welp
22:57 < rootsudo> They hate letting you read them but I think I asked some good questions.
22:57 < rootsudo> They asked "do you know powershell" I said "it's a fancy shell" and one chuckled
22:57 < rootsudo> so I should be in
22:57 <+AnonymooseWork> :D
22:57 <+AnonymooseWork> bazinga
22:58 <+AnonymooseWork> time to pull the ripcord and gtfo
23:00 < Stoob> lol
23:02 < BonKurei> powershell is the blue shell from mario kart
23:03 < kuahara> the blue genie from Aladdin
23:05 <+NinjaStyle> your mom is aladdin
23:05 < kuahara> I'm disappointed you didn't keep that going
23:06 < BonKurei> your mom goes to college
23:06 < kuahara> wrong thing  :(
23:07 <+NinjaStyle> your mom is aldadin
23:10 < ebol4> someone help me word this
23:10 < ebol4> i have some data in a report
23:10 < ebol4> that says
23:11 < ebol4> prior to patching, a program failed 6% of the time
23:11 < ebol4> after patching, the program fails only 3% of the time
23:11 < JPT> Sounds good to me.
23:11 < JPT> Keep it that way :)
23:11 < ebol4> you know that does sound fine, i was trying to word it differently
23:12 < JPT> If you want marketing, go with "Now 100% more less likely to crash"
23:12 < ebol4> more less likely, good lord
23:12 < JPT> :D
23:15 < kuahara> Crashes 100% less often?
23:15 < JPT> Just keep it with the two sentences. It's the honest approach.
23:16 < kuahara> s\often\frequently\
23:16 < kuahara> ha, take that layer-eight
23:16 < JPT> Combining that to go for "100% less often" or "just 50% of the time" is not a good idea
23:17 < JPT> The real question still remains: Why does that program crash 3% of the time? Go fix that!
23:23 < BonKurei> ebol4: I use linux so I have to reboot about as often as I get laid
23:44 < Sousapro> anyone here play with installing chrome via MDT?
23:44 < Sousapro> I can't seem to get it to install without running it as administrator
23:49 < smileyscout> sup bitches
23:57 < smileyscout> anybody alive in here?
23:58 < vader-> mostly dead inside
23:58 < vader-> engine is still running though
23:58 <+CheckYourSix> This place is dead
23:58 < vader-> CheckYourSix you use Phox yet?
23:59 <+CheckYourSix> vader-: Not yet. Not looking for a job just yet. I might consider it in a few months.
23:59 < vader-> i wouldn't
23:59 <+CheckYourSix> I'm definitely going to when I'm ready
23:59 < vader-> everyone that has looked at what he put together for me has torn it apart
23:59 <+CheckYourSix> You're the only one who's had a bad experience with him
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