--- Log opened Sat Apr 07 00:00:30 2018
--- Day changed Sat Apr 07 2018
00:00 <+CheckYourSix> I know plenty of people who have gotten interviews right and left with multiple offers after using him
00:01 <+CheckYourSix> And really, you can tear any resume apart. There's no set standard. What one manager thinks is great will be the worst thing ever to the next manager
00:01 < BonKurei> I'm leaving my job in a few weeks, taking a break and looking for something starting in august
00:01 < vader-> ya i dunno, i might try that other company i was looking at
00:01 < BonKurei> It's never taken me more than a week from the time i make a resume to the time im hired
00:02 < vader-> what salary range are you looking in?
00:02 < vader-> i think that makes a diff as well
00:02  * sideup66 loves linux
00:02 < BonKurei> 90k+
00:02 < sideup66> Make little appliances to do things in vms forever
00:02 < vader-> ya im trying for almost double that
00:03 < vader-> and remote
00:03 < vader-> :-)
00:03 < BonKurei> What is your current title, chief of cyber command?
00:04 < vader-> haha Chief of Everything
00:05 < BonKurei> When they ask why you raised your wage to 180k tell them, Pray I dont alter the deal any further
00:07 <+CheckYourSix> vader-: What type of job are you looking for specifically?
00:07 < vader-> Mostly Cloud Architecture... AWS/Azure, maybe even a focus in either Infrastructure or IAM
00:08 <+NinjaStyle> vader-: let me know when you are looking
00:08 < vader-> looking :-)
00:09 <+NinjaStyle> they took the cloud architect position down :/
00:10 <+NinjaStyle> I can ask recruiting next time I see one of them
00:10 < vader-> ok cool, appreciate it
00:10 < vader-> i am going to be trying to get my Azure Cert in the next two months
00:10 <+NinjaStyle> where are you located
00:11 < vader-> Philly area
00:11 <+NinjaStyle> would you be interested in DC or Denver?
00:12 < vader-> like onsite?
00:13 <+NinjaStyle> possibly
00:13 < vader-> eh, that is alittle bit of a trip for me and i know the wife isn't into moving out of the area. she is set with her career...
00:14 <+NinjaStyle> we do have full remote positions, but there are a lot more in site
00:14 <+NinjaStyle> on*
00:14 < vader-> i don't mine like occasional travel and stuff
00:15 < BonKurei> What about interest in silicon valley?
00:18 < vader-> i also has a strong background in Office 365/G Suite migrations...
00:18 < vader-> have
00:19 <+NinjaStyle> we were hiring that like 2 months ago
00:19 <+NinjaStyle> I recommended rkeene for it
00:19 <+NinjaStyle> but his price tag + no willingness to relocate made them less interested
00:20 < smileyscout> i have a strong background in being the laptop bitch
00:21 <+CheckYourSix> I would relocate, but I don't have the skills necessary to fill your jobs
00:22 < smileyscout> i haz limited skillz in doing password resets and new laptop setups
00:22 <+NinjaStyle> CheckYourSix: keep looking and applying. who knows maybe they'll end up liking you
00:23 < smileyscout> im an overpaid helpdesk laptop monkey
00:23 <+CheckYourSix> NinjaStyle: Maybe. Gotta pick up some AWS certs and stuff first
00:24 < vader-> ya that is my next goal
00:24 < vader-> can't decide if I want to do Azure or AWS certs first
00:25 <+NinjaStyle> I would recommend aws
00:26 <+NinjaStyle> Slightly less people on azure, and Ms certs are hard in the shittiest way
00:27 <+NinjaStyle> I heard the Linux academy aws stuff is good
00:28 < smileyscout> certs are bad m'kay
00:30 <+CheckYourSix> I have to take a pre-calc class so I can get into the Computer Science degree
00:30 <+CheckYourSix> So dumb
00:30 <+CheckYourSix> I also need to file my taxes this weekend. How exciting
00:31 < BonKurei> Good math skills are pretty helpful for comp sci, you wont use too many of the skills later but logic and problem solving skills are integral to success
00:32 <+CheckYourSix> My logic and problem solving skills are already really good. I doubt the math is going to help them *that* much. I could pass the Calc I class, but they require a recent (last 3-5 years) pre-calc class in order to get into the program. Mine is over 10 years ago
00:32 < BonKurei> have a great weekend all!
00:32 < BonKurei> Checking out
00:33 < vader-> ive been toying with the idea of starting an MSP or starting a business just for moving people to "the cloud"
00:35 < czarbomba> so i read the "ip over carrier pigeon" article
00:35 < czarbomba> i'm never going to bitch about slow broadband again
00:47 <+MillerBOSS> B Dbl E Dbl R U N BEER RUN
00:48 < czarbomba> you should consider buying beer that can't run away
00:48 <+MillerBOSS> https://youtu.be/opCMW6xqS_U?t=30
00:48 <+layer-eight> YouTube Naughty Monkey Band Last Show - 38 - Beer Run by 2013-09-25T07:08:42.000Z (duration: 3:53) on Wed Sep 25 14:08:42 UTC 2013, 2013-09-25T07:08:42.000Z views
00:58 < vader-> Any of you guys web designers or work with designers?
00:59 <+CheckYourSix> Do you just have a question on it or are you looking for a designer?
01:00 < Holo> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaIA0ECVAAAB7S1.jpg:large
01:00 < Holo> tmobile...
01:00 < vader-> looking for a designer mainly
01:00 < vader-> specifically someome who works in wordpress
01:01 < sideup66> Holo: TMobile does that? Lol
01:01 <+CheckYourSix> I had an amazing designer I used to work with. She dropped off the face of the earth though
01:01 < Holo> sideup66 yaaaa
01:01 < sideup66> Holo: welp, I was debating switching to em for a prepaid plan
01:01 < sideup66> Nice to knoe
01:01 < sideup66> Like Verizon who does a fucking credit check to get a plan
01:01 <+MillerBOSS> https://twitter.com/Scott_Helme/status/982325137130139648 T-Mobile Austria
01:01 < Holo> https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/7xdeby/t-mobile-stores-part-of-customers-passwords-in-plaintext-says-it-has-amazingly-good-security?utm_campaign=sharebutton
01:02 < Holo> they claim they store part in plain text
01:02 < Holo> but
01:02 < vavkamil> t-mobile is shit
01:02 < Holo> fuck now that i have enouth letters to reverse the encryption
01:02 < vavkamil> I have reported over 20 security vulnerabilities to them
01:02 < Holo> -.-
01:02 < vavkamil> they fixed like 30% :D
01:03 <+MillerBOSS> Wonder if Käthe still has a job at T-Mobile Austria
01:03 <+CheckYourSix> Hunterkll_:
01:03 < sideup66> Man
01:03 < sideup66> I was debating switching to em over verizon
01:04 < sideup66> Now I'm rethinking this decision
01:04 <+MillerBOSS> Get outta here sideup66
01:04 < Holo> no wonder why they are soo cheap
01:04 <+MillerBOSS> The service is gonna be the same plus T-Mobile Austria does not equal T-Mobile USA
01:05 <+MillerBOSS> T-Mobile US, Inc.
01:05 < Holo> nice try, probably the same backend
01:05 <+MillerBOSS> I doubt it
01:05 <+MillerBOSS> But would like to know for sure
01:06 <+MillerBOSS> T-Mobile US, Inc. was VoiceStream Wireless Inc. T-Mobile USA Inc. MetroPCS Communications Inc.
01:06 < vavkamil> I was hacking T-Mobile DE and CZ, both have bug bountry programs, ton of vulns
01:07 < vavkamil> probably the worst program that I ever participated with
01:07 < vavkamil> they don't really care that much about security
01:12 < Demos> has PXE ever worked in the history of man?
01:13 <+CheckYourSix> Yeah... what's wrong with it?
01:13 < Demos> idk just not booting. looks like it gets a lease from my firewall tho
01:13 < Demos> it never downloads the efi binary from my tftp server though
01:14 < Demos> another mahcine on my network can download that just fine
01:14 < vader-> you setting all the DHCP stuff correctly?
01:14 < Demos> not sure. I guess I'll try locally instead of having pfsense send the bootfile
01:15 <+CheckYourSix> It's usually DHCP stuff that isn't set up right. I had that issue with pfSense when I tried PXE boot
01:17 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/8a0jfh/autopilot_barrier_lust_201812/
01:18 < sadbox> Demos: so, so many times
01:19 < czarbomba> pfsense dhcp seems to be rock solid but the esoterica of pxe might make it more convenient if you're a bsd guy
01:19 < czarbomba> or at least someone who used it regularly more recently than freebsd 5.0
01:20 < Demos> yeah I'll just use ISC
01:20 < czarbomba> or just hire felda :D
01:20 <@JollyRgrs> i have pfsense but use isc and bind9
01:24 < Demos> yeah I use bind9 for dns
01:24 < Demos> controlled by freeipa
01:26 <@JollyRgrs> i use bind9 controlled by.... me?
01:26 < Demos> well yeah, I just keep the data in ldap
01:27 < Demos> guess who had DHCPv6 blocked by their firewalld
01:27 <+CheckYourSix> Lol!
01:27 < pcspkr> lol firewalld
01:29 < Demos> ??
01:29 < Demos> you got a problem with firewalld
01:29 < pcspkr> yeah it's a piece of shit
01:29 < czarbomba> s/firewalld/anything that isn't iptables
01:29 <+layer-eight> Demos meant: "you got a problem with anything that isn't iptables"
01:29 < pcspkr> yum install iptables-services
01:29 < pcspkr> systemctl mask firewalld
01:30 <+MillerBOSS> Yum install beer me
01:31 < czarbomba> still chasing after the beers that ran away?
01:32 < pcspkr> debeers
01:32 < Demos> nftables
01:32 < Demos> or the new bpf tables
01:33 < Demos> ugh finding the right client id for a static dhcpv6 assignment
01:33 <+MillerBOSS> Only chasing after you czarbomba
01:34 <+MillerBOSS> This is dumb https://twitter.com/troyhunt/status/982336047664185344
01:34 <+MillerBOSS> www is a subdomain
01:35 <+CheckYourSix> It is dumb
01:36 < Demos> doesn't chrome allow ftps
01:36 <+MillerBOSS> It allows me to give it quarters and I can play games
01:37 <+MillerBOSS> Plus I have never found a way to copy the URL from Chrome and only copy the domain and not the protocol://
01:37 < zerocool> anyone here use elastalert?
01:39 <+MillerBOSS> Help help I have fallen and can't get up
01:39 <+MillerBOSS> That kind?
01:39 <+MillerBOSS> ha ha
01:39 < zerocool> help
01:41 < zerocool> ivfallen.mod
01:41 <+MillerBOSS> So Elasticsearch. What is a use case zerocool ? Learn me
01:42 < zerocool> well basically i have a million computers sending logs to elk stack server then i have elastalert running there which spams me with shit i "care" about
01:42 <+MillerBOSS> With or without a dashboard?
01:42 < xamithan> a million?
01:42 < zerocool> ummm... without?
01:43 < zerocool> it's just a daemon and configs
01:43 <+MillerBOSS> I am just trying to learn how you use it. :) So using Kibana for example may not be a good fit because of too much shit and you only want to be alerted of specific issues int he logs, correct?
01:44 < zerocool> was wondering if anyone else here used it because... i think this should be simple but maybe it's not i have googled and read all the docs and poked around but cannot get it to work... the body of the email displays UTC and i need to it display local time
01:44 < zerocool> i mean it would be nice
01:44 < zerocool> the ppl around here will think last night was this morning when reading the email
01:44 < zerocool> or visa versa
01:44 < onicrom> you dont live in utc?
01:45 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> See, this is why we all should UTC.
01:45 <+MillerBOSS> Oh I was curious how you use Elasticsearch, assuming you use logstash etc. :) Would that be a setting in elestalert?
01:45 <+MillerBOSS> Also I see they use Gitter
01:45 <+MillerBOSS> https://gitter.im/Yelp/elastalert
01:45 < zerocool> i use elk, elasticsearch logstach and kibana... and elastalert
01:46 < zerocool> and beats as shippers,
01:46 < zerocool> filebeat and winlogbeat
01:46 < zerocool> >stach
01:46 < zerocool> kek
01:46 <+MillerBOSS> Is that in a Linux only environment? Would something like that work well for a mix of Windows, Linux, network hardware, etc?
01:46 < zerocool> winlogbeat for workstations and servers
01:46 < zerocool> basically local service to ship windows logs
01:46 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> MillerBOSS: Looks like no one answers that IM. A whole bunch of questions though.
01:47 <+MillerBOSS> OK interesting
01:47 <+MillerBOSS> Oh yeah you are right SysAdminGoneCraZ
01:47 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> which sucks :\
01:47 < zerocool> yeah, look into it for fun and profit it's dope
01:47 < zerocool> i will just continue to tell people it's UTC and l2utc
01:48 <+MillerBOSS> I suck at learning from scratch vs seeing something in action then building it from scratch.
01:48 <+MillerBOSS> Or in your case knowing "use these things"
01:49 <+MillerBOSS> Have you seen zerocool https://github.com/Yelp/elastalert/issues/861
01:50 <+MillerBOSS> https://github.com/Yelp/elastalert/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=timezone
01:51 < zerocool> yeah but... i was hoping it was fixd
01:51 < zerocool> like i wouldn't need to write my own modules
01:51 < zerocool> since it's been a year seems ez
01:51 < zerocool> seems like it should be a thing, even has some docs that suggest it's a think but i try adding directives and no working :/
01:52 < Demos> weee got it booting
01:52 <+MillerBOSS> Do you have any how to sites that you followed for this whole set up or did you use vendor guides?
01:53 <+MillerBOSS> And should I be creating each application in the same OS or use docker containers?
01:53 <+MillerBOSS> Say for ELK
02:03  * czarbomba flings millerboss back down the quarry
02:04 < sideup66> hey room
02:05 < sideup66> so this is a fun one, just setup google voice on my phone to deal with some stupid work alerts that come through as email to sms, setup the funky sms relay...problem now is that when it does its fun little relay
02:05 < sideup66> it forwards the text to my real number
02:05 < sideup66> but marks gvoice as read, i could block the gvoice number which probably would fix that, but how would i leave the message unread in google voice
02:05 < sideup66> or mark it as such
02:06 <+MillerBOSS> Mark as read, are you sure? I forward all Google Voice SMS to AT&T and everything in Google Voice is unread as I never look at it
02:07 < sideup66> yes
02:08 < sideup66> when i look in google voice andsee the message in there, it appears as read, so no alert
02:08 < sideup66> which is weird
02:08 <+MillerBOSS> Do you want them forwarded to your carrier SMS?
02:08 < sideup66> and no, i cant setup forwarding through google itself as it asks me to confirm the google voice email address for reasons, and i cannot get the message on the other end with the code
02:08 < sideup66> no
02:08 < sideup66> i do not
02:08 < sideup66> i want them just in google voice (will do them through the app)
02:09 < sideup66> so forwarding will be done via a mail client on a vm
02:09 < sideup66> because of said gmail limitation
02:10 < sideup66> unless you wre able to make google do the forwarding somehow
02:10 <+MillerBOSS> OK to recap the thing we discussed last week, you only want the messages from jboss to go to email which ifttt or zappier sends to Google Voice via a rule to reply to your text.googlevoice.com address correct, and you want all Google Voice voicemails, calls, SMS etc to go to your carrier number but not the JBoss SMSes, correct?
02:13 <+MillerBOSS> Also you are doing this because boss said it needs to be SMS. Why not set up another Google account with another Google Voice account just for this and disable https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-04-06-at-7.12.06-PM-4H.png sideup66
02:14 < sideup66> no, let me recap...I get the email alerts from systems at work as an email. Google voice does not have a direct email gateway unless you do the weird gmail thing. what i want to happen is these alerts hit google voice and alert me on my phone, messages dont come to my carrier number, just live in google voice
02:14 < sideup66> yes, i have that disabled
02:14 < czarbomba> sideup if you go to the actual google voice site you should be able to shut off sms forwarding. thing is, that means you need hangouts or a working GV app to get them on mobile
02:15 < sideup66> i do, i want to get them there
02:15 < sideup66> just keep them in voice
02:15 < czarbomba> i don't really remember if the option not to mark read is available in the GV interface. goog is moving away from there.
02:15 < ihre> voice: how about dem highlights
02:15 < Nightcinder> just got a phone call about our ERP system crashing
02:15 < sideup66> weird though, i was turning that off in the google voice android app and it was still sending them to my real phone
02:15 < czarbomba> hangouts being not fully baked, of course goog is going to start letting GV rot
02:15 < Nightcinder> turns out the dude walked away in the middle of closing a work order so all the tables were locked
02:15 < Nightcinder> sldk;hfjsklajdhfjaskdbfas
02:15 < czarbomba> but i use the voice.google.com web interface to do all that stuff and the android GV app still delivers 'em
02:16 < czarbomba> (for now)
02:16 < sideup66> ill try through the site
02:16 < sideup66> right czarbomba , for whatever cooky reason our corporate logic is "take away blackberries because they cost too much" and oh, btw go all byod
02:16 < sideup66> and blow the shit out of your phone with stupid shit depending what you do
02:16 <+MillerBOSS> I shared this above https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-04-06-at-7.12.06-PM-4H.png
02:17 <+MillerBOSS> And look at new and old interface for all options.
02:17 <+MillerBOSS> The new hides shit
02:19 < czarbomba> they just haven't made GV fully integrate into hangouts, which seems untenble
02:19 < czarbomba> untenable
02:19 < czarbomba> or they're head-faking on GV and they're going to do something more robust with it. but that would be a useful thing and goog can't have that.
02:20 < czarbomba> i just use it til the inevitable emails "this useful service will be shut down in 90 days"
02:20 < sideup66> yep czarbomba i have a feeling they are killing it off
02:20 < czarbomba> then i figure out where to offload it
02:20 < sideup66> they have a paid service
02:21 < sideup66> rather make money there than control this imho, and this was the testbed for project fi imho
02:21 < sideup66> either way thats done MillerBOSS
02:21 < sideup66> and you said make another google account?
02:22 < sideup66> thing is i want the alerts on the phone, and weirdly, disabling the email bridge breaks the mail forwarding ability
02:23 < sideup66> czarbomba: though turning off that bridge makes no sense to me
02:23 < sideup66> why would they do that
02:23 < sideup66> to get people to buy a paid service?
02:24 < sideup66> MillerBOSS: wtf did you mean make a seperate account though
02:28 <+CheckYourSix> Hmmmm. Do I set up Foreman for automatic provisioning of VMs or do I use something else?
02:28 < starbomba> sergei skripal rapidly recovering now
02:28  * starbomba gets the popcorn
02:28 < sideup66> think i figured it out
02:29 < sideup66> when thunderbird is forwarding (in my test, i will be using mutt for it in real life) it is flagging the message as read
02:29 < sideup66> i think its carrying that attribute somehow lol
02:29 < starbomba> old korean president going to prison for 24 years. old brazilian president going to prison for 12 years. the menendez brothers are cellies now
02:29 < starbomba> WHAT THE FUCK IS EVEN GOING ON ANY MORE
02:30 <+CheckYourSix> Is anyone running containers on top of CentOS?
02:31 <+CheckYourSix> Seems like the majority of people run Docker on top of Ubuntu
02:33 < mkillebrew> does it matter?
02:33 < sideup66> ive been on the virtualization train now
02:34 < sideup66> home server has a fuckton of horsepower and have the base os for home server shit
02:34 < sideup66> anything i wanna add ontop just gets virtualized :D
02:40 < admiralspark> man
02:40 < admiralspark> Almost done with today
02:40 < coderphive> GUIS
02:40 < coderphive> it's friday
02:40 < coderphive> Also, I almost got killed by a fucking tornado twice
02:40 < admiralspark> that it is
02:41 < admiralspark> jesus
02:41 < coderphive> like, can Texas calm down? that'd be dope.
02:42 < starbomba> jesus, people still unironically blast EDM music?
02:42 < coderphive> yes
02:42 < starbomba> how sad for them
02:42 < coderphive> I do it on purpose all the time
02:42 < coderphive> fight me
02:42  * Church- coughs and turns off his 90's techno playlist
02:42 < coderphive> bro
02:43 < sideup66> unts unts unts unts unts
02:43 < admiralspark> bootsncatsnbootsncatsnbootsncatsnbootsncatsn
02:43 < coderphive> dun dun dun dun, dun dun dun dun
02:44 < coderphive> ssssssssssssshhhhhhpppppssssssssshhhhhhhhh
02:44 < sideup66> the system is down
02:44 < sideup66> the syste
02:44 < sideup66> m
02:44 < sideup66> is down
02:44 < coderphive> WAH WAH WAH WAH
02:44 < coderphive> TO THE CONTROL ROOM
02:45 < sideup66> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwZwkk7q25I
02:45 <+layer-eight> YouTube Strong Bad Email #45 - Techno by 2009-03-31T18:01:50.000Z (duration: 1:18) on Wed Apr 01 01:01:50 UTC 2009, 2009-03-31T18:01:50.000Z views
02:45 < admiralspark> here layer-eight
02:45 < admiralspark> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYRlTISvjww
02:45 <+layer-eight> YouTube Uptime Funk - (Uptown Funk parody) by 2015-11-05T17:32:04.000Z (duration: 4:29) on Fri Nov 06 00:32:04 UTC 2015, 2015-11-05T17:32:04.000Z views
02:47 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW0xk2ajRJE
02:47 <+layer-eight> YouTube Scary... Black Snake climbing wall into house by 2011-05-15T19:56:11.000Z (duration: 2:31) on Mon May 16 02:56:11 UTC 2011, 2011-05-15T19:56:11.000Z views
02:48 < admiralspark> damnit JollyRgrs
02:48 <@JollyRgrs> sleep well tonight
02:49 <+CheckYourSix> mkillebrew: I like CentOS for everything
02:49 < admiralspark> amen
02:50 < admiralspark> just began the process of pulling ours into automation control
02:50 < coderphive> That is absolute garbage
02:50 < admiralspark> ?
02:50 < coderphive> CentOS
02:50 < coderphive> like, if I went and chopped my arm off then replaced it with a neat hook, that's CentOS
02:51 < coderphive> "Nice, look - I have this portable coat hanger"
02:51 < admiralspark> ...you're trolling?
02:51 < coderphive> "Yeah, but you're missing an arm"
02:51 < admiralspark> as opposed to?
02:51 <@JollyRgrs> admiralspark: that black one was cheating with those pegs on the wall... this one is just straight brick n mortar
02:51 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnCJhq-JOck
02:51 <+layer-eight> YouTube snake climbing brick wall by 2009-05-12T21:27:30.000Z (duration: 2:20) on Wed May 13 04:27:30 UTC 2009, 2009-05-12T21:27:30.000Z views
02:51 < admiralspark> hahahha thanks JollyRgrs
02:51 < coderphive> Debian/CoreOS/Fedora
02:52 < coderphive> I'll at least concede Fedora is okay
02:53 < starbomba> is it true you once played a slapstick villain named "broccoli rob" in a summerstock production of bus stop re-set in an italian restaurant
03:03 <+CheckYourSix> coderphive: Are you one of those Ubuntu fanboys?
03:07 <+CheckYourSix> admiralspark: What are you using for automation control?
03:16 < MikeSpears> https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/6/17207838/backpage-com-seized-website-down-fbi
03:20 <+CheckYourSix> Feds are cracking down.
03:20 < MikeSpears> yup
03:20 <+CheckYourSix> There was an article about Craigslist taking down its personals section too
03:21 < MikeSpears> to be fair, there was fucked shit going on on backpage
03:21 < sideup66> half way there MillerBOSS
03:21 <+CheckYourSix> There's fucked shit on all of those sites I'm sure
03:21 < MikeSpears> yea, but iirc backpage was worse
03:21 < sideup66> MikeSpears: both places i could go to the shitty parts of town and seriously hire a hooker
03:21 < MikeSpears> I've heard more about backpage and child sex rings and shit
03:22 < sideup66> thats more wtf
03:22 < sideup66> on cl ive just seen hookers really
03:22 < MikeSpears> along with trafficking
03:22 < MikeSpears> yep, craigslist actually pulls shady shit
03:22 <+CheckYourSix> Can we just execute child molesters?
03:22 < MikeSpears> prostitiution should be legalized and taxed
03:23 < MikeSpears> CheckYourSix: execution is too nice
03:23 <@cryptic1> MikeSpears, back to work
03:23 <@cryptic1> CheckYourSix, back to work
03:23 <@cryptic1> sideup66, back to work
03:23 < MikeSpears> torture them
03:23 <@cryptic1> DrGibby|, back to work
03:23 < MikeSpears> and okay
03:23 <@cryptic1> starbomba, back to work
03:23 <+CheckYourSix> cryptic1: Shut up, Canuckstanian!
03:23 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, back to work
03:25 <@cryptic1> D:
03:25 <+CheckYourSix> DrGibby|: You Live PD whore
03:34 < zerocool> is it better to be an infrastructure engineer or a snr sysadmin?
03:34 < sideup66> grrr
03:34 < sideup66> even the email is marked as read
03:34 < sideup66> wtf
03:39 < DrGibby|> someone rang?
03:39 <@cryptic1> well well well its you
03:39 < DrGibby|> hi cryptic1
03:40 <+CheckYourSix> DrGibby|: Any good shit on Live PD?
03:40 < DrGibby|> no idea, not watching
03:40 < DrGibby|> at least not yet
03:41 <+CheckYourSix> Why not? Normally you're telling us about it 2 hours ahead of time
03:42 < DrGibby|> got other stuff going on
03:50 < abakedapplepie> .
03:56 <+NinjaStyle> I'm home woo
03:56 < sideup66> DrGibby|: and cryptic1 dickbutt?
03:56 < sideup66> or obamas elf?
03:57 <+NinjaStyle> politics
03:57 <@cryptic1> its been cancelled
03:57 <+NinjaStyle> don't call Trump a dickbutt
03:57 < sideup66> TONIGHT
03:57 < sideup66> THE POLITICAL REALITY SHOW
03:57 < sideup66> STARRING
03:57 < sideup66> MARK ZUCKERBERG
03:57 < sideup66> DONALD TRUMP
03:57 < sideup66> (ME CUES DAVE LETTERMAN BAND IN THE BACKGROUND)
03:58 < sideup66> ELON MUSK
03:58 < sideup66> TOM
03:58 < DrGibby|> Dickbutts have been cancelled for this month because of the lack of +v's and too much political talk
03:58 < sideup66> DrGibby|: i think trump just tweeted about you
03:58 < sideup66> that DrGibby| never using dickbutt SHAME
03:59 < DrGibby|> SAD
04:00 <+NinjaStyle> is the cancellation thing real?
04:01 < DrGibby|> Yes
04:01 <+NinjaStyle> I've mostly been absent for like a month
04:02 <+NinjaStyle> probably still will be for 1 more week then back to normal
04:14 <+MillerBOSS> 07:24:43 PM  sideup66	+MillerBOSS: wtf did you mean make a seperate account though
04:14 <+MillerBOSS> As in make a separate Google / Gmail / Voice account. And do forward any of it to actual carrier SMS if don't want it to go there. Within the Google Voice app you can be signed into multiple Google Voice accounts and get notifications for all accounts.
04:15 < sideup66> you mean dont forward it to carrier sms app
04:15 < sideup66> or dont forward it to carrier sms*
04:17 <+NinjaStyle> I wonder if he firmware updates are signed
04:17 <+NinjaStyle> hp*
04:17 < sideup66> MillerBOSS: that would work but the problem is i get no notification for the message forwarded from email
04:18 <+NinjaStyle> they probably are
04:18 < sideup66> in google voice at all
04:18 < sideup66> as it thinks its read
04:18 < starbomba> <DrGibby|> Dickbutts have been cancelled for this month because of the lack of +v's and too much political talk
04:19 < starbomba> i support this drgibby political movement
04:30 <+NinjaStyle> DrGibby|: are hp firmware signed?
04:31 < coderphive> NinjaStyle know anything about microcontroller security?
04:31 < coderphive> Also, why did I just try to tab complete the word security
04:31 < coderphive> I need a vacation
04:31 <+NinjaStyle> i do that shit all the time, and not really, why?
04:31 < coderphive> Looking for some people interested in thinking about it
04:31 < coderphive> tbh, there is no such thing as microcontroller security
04:32 < coderphive> lack of processing power ftw
04:32 <+NinjaStyle> im thinking about putting malware on a printer
04:32 < coderphive> mmm
04:32 <+NinjaStyle> probably gonna do that as a project in juneish
04:32 < coderphive> These devices have less computing power than a printer
04:33 <+NinjaStyle> damn, i think this thing is signed...
04:33 <+NinjaStyle> apparently these printers have ARM processors
04:33 < coderphive> I'll probably open up a proof of concept contest for it
04:33 < coderphive> Yeah, ARM is a step up from us :D
04:33 <+NinjaStyle> coderphive: can you share some details about what you want to do?
04:34 <+NinjaStyle> i may know some people who could help
04:34 < sideup66> MillerBOSS:
04:34 < coderphive> sure, pm
04:34 < sideup66> fuck
04:34 <+NinjaStyle> np
04:44 < gtrmtx> hey guys, i have an apache question and #httpd is dead at the moment. mind if i ask here?
04:46 < kepler> yes
04:46 < gtrmtx> this is my setup http://pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=8799afe9f3ad11a8fefb7c702bff54e9
04:46 < gtrmtx> the problem is site2 is trying to resolve the private ip on the client side
04:47 < The_Dv8or> sup
04:48 < abakedapplepie> i need pfsense support
04:48 < abakedapplepie> :|
04:48 < abakedapplepie> anyone know how to do a site-to-site openvpn vpn using pfsense on both ends with the client side behind NAT
04:48 < abakedapplepie> i figured it should just work
04:48 < The_Dv8or> buy me a 2TB 2.5 hard drive and Ill consider it
04:50 < abakedapplepie> ooh boy
04:50 < abakedapplepie> fuckin pfsense
04:50 < abakedapplepie> wheres felda
04:50 < The_Dv8or> prolly docking a buttplug
04:52 < starbomba> felda's getting off on geeksqueak via discord
04:52 < starbomba> it's not a good look
04:53 < The_Dv8or> it would appear felda’s developed a reputation
04:53 < starbomba> s/developed/cultivated
04:53 <+layer-eight> The_Dv8or meant: "it would appear felda’s cultivated a reputation"
04:53 < abakedapplepie> im starting to think i cant do this
04:53 < abakedapplepie> or else i dont udnerstand how to do it
04:53 < abakedapplepie> openvpn	6793	Options error: --local addresses must be distinct from --ifconfig addresses
04:54 < sideup66> on a stupid note
04:54 < starbomba> what's wrong? the vpn subnet can't be the same as the actual subnet the firewall is interfacing
04:55 < sideup66> if anyone can answer, on a phone, if you are getting consistent texts from a service (like i do for work) isnt taht big battery drain
04:55 < sideup66> isnt that*
04:55 < The_Dv8or> how constant
04:55 < starbomba> i seem to have much bigger hits to battery than just incoming texts, which can be a lot
04:55 < sideup66> oh sometimes i can get em as often as every 15 mins if something is blowing up
04:55 < The_Dv8or> 30 msgs a second for 12 hours, it might be an issue
04:56 < The_Dv8or> one text every 15 fucking minutes is constant to the concern of battery drain for you?
04:56 < starbomba> if something blows up i get about half a dozen in the space of ten seconds
04:56 < The_Dv8or> are they 2MB PNGs?
04:56 < starbomba> and then sometimes i get shit every 10-30 minutes in perpetuity until condition is resolved
04:56 < The_Dv8or> do you know what a text message consists of?
04:56 < starbomba> SMS is nothing if not efficient
04:57  * The_Dv8or had to check to make sure there werent too many “s”es in consists when he typed it
04:58 < The_Dv8or> I think its time to set up another monitor… brb
04:58 < sideup66> starbomba: this
04:58 < sideup66> every 10-15 if something breaks
04:58 < sideup66> and this can go on
04:58 < sideup66> all day
04:59 < sideup66> until the resolution is there
04:59 < sideup66> hence why im wondering
05:00 < sideup66> starbomba: im honestly serious about that
05:01 < MikeSpears> the newer hpe aruba switches are sexy
05:01 < MikeSpears> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/5fUTAZV2/20180406_201454.jpg
05:02 < MikeSpears> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ZQNkzxoA/20180406_201452.jpg
05:02 < starbomba> sideup66 i suspect if your drain is that bad when that level of SMS is incoming then a combination of your radio settings and your notification settings could be tweaked some. unless you just have a failing/old battery
05:03 < The_Dv8or> all right, external monitor is set up
05:03 < starbomba> but given my experience dealing with SMS notifications during outages, emails, etc., the text messages are basically insignificant hits on my battery compared to p much everything else
05:03 < The_Dv8or> now I cant wait to forget to switch my KVM over to that system its connected to and accidentally send my root password here
05:04 < The_Dv8or> were you joking, MikeSpears ?
05:05 < sideup66> hmm okay, just curious
05:05 < sideup66> im also doing this whole google voice nonsense because i want work seperated from personal essentially
05:05 < MikeSpears> not at all, they look way better than the older ones
05:05 < sideup66> only thing that im finding stupid is a. google needign to "verify" a forward email address
05:05 < The_Dv8or> old ones musta sucked the arse
05:05 < sideup66> so i cant do this natively in gmail
05:06 < sideup66> and the fact that once the email alert from our monitoring system hits voice after being forwarded it shows as a read message in gmail
05:06 < MikeSpears> nah, great switches, just ugly looking, and the webui sucked
05:06 < The_Dv8or> as not enterprise as they are, I fucking love Netgear blue
05:06 < sideup66> just a pain in the ass gvoice doesnt have an official email relay
05:06 < sideup66> and im forced to a hack
05:06 < sideup66> anyone know of a good voip service for free that has a mail relay
05:09 < AustinS> probably hard to find voip that does mail.. but Twilio is voIP that does apps/API/all that so you can do the mail side of it :p Twilio is great
05:09 < starbomba> sideup66 is unicorn-hunting
05:10 < sideup66> i mean
05:10 < sideup66> the thing is sent from email
05:10 < sideup66> so i could convince my boss for that one email to just email me it
05:10 < starbomba> you just want an email>sms gateway?
05:10 < sideup66> the rest come from an actual number
05:10 < starbomba> oh n/m
05:10 < sideup66> starbomba: honestly sure, if someone has a generic one that can shoot out the email from a number
05:10 < sideup66> and into my google voice :)
05:12 < starbomba> i would be highly surprised if you had much control over a free email>sms gateway's advertised number, but i expect it will deliver the messages to any SMS-capable number
05:12 < sideup66> dont care about controlling what number it comes from
05:12 < starbomba> don't be surprised if they append ads to your notifications
05:12 < sideup66> long as it sends the email to my gvoice as sms from an actual phone #, its fine
05:12 < sideup66> even if its a bastardized weird automated one
05:12 < starbomba> sms would require a return # iirc
05:13 < starbomba> as far as the standard goes
05:13 < sideup66> i mean
05:13 < starbomba> could you respond to it? who knows
05:13 < sideup66> dont matter to me
05:13 < sideup66> dont need to
05:13 < starbomba> but i expect if it truly uses SMS it will work fine with GV
05:13 < DrGibby|> NinjaStyle: I'm not sure
05:13 < sideup66> it would
05:13 < starbomba> i've never had an issue with GV receiving real SMS (or MMS for that matter)
05:13 < sideup66> so i can get rid of this bastardized hack im setting up
05:18 < sideup66> starbomba: im googling services now
05:21 < MikeSpears> network closet at my apartment https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Iy9hLnEB/20180406_232038.jpg
05:21 < MikeSpears> Still working on wiring (need longer cables)
05:21 < The_Dv8or> what kinda jagoff sysadmin has a personal printer these days?
05:22 < MikeSpears> Lol it's at home
05:22 < The_Dv8or> I know that
05:22 < sideup66> you know your desperate
05:22 < The_Dv8or> I havent owned a printer in gotta be 10 years
05:22 <+CheckYourSix> I haven't had a printer at my place since I moved out of my parents' house over 5 years ago
05:22 < sideup66> when you go past the first page in google
05:22 < sideup66> i still have one in my house, need it from time to time
05:22 < The_Dv8or> not worth the fuckin 12 pages a year I need to print
05:23 <+CheckYourSix> sideup66: That's what printers at work are for
05:23 < The_Dv8or> I just run it up to Fedex Office and pay the dime a page
05:23 < MikeSpears> I've used it a decent bit. I want to get a nicer one tho. Would like an AIO
05:23 < MikeSpears> I've made money off it lol
05:23 <+CheckYourSix> When are we gonna be able to go 100% paperless with all digital signatures and stuff?
05:23 < sideup66> between jobs?
05:23 < MikeSpears> Nah
05:23 < The_Dv8or> no one can take you seriously if you want a personal AIO
05:24 < MikeSpears> Lol
05:24 < MikeSpears> Dude, I've legit had people offer to pay me to scan shit
05:24 < The_Dv8or> Jesus, thats the kind of shit Id have to do… you know, as someone with no job right meow
05:25 < The_Dv8or> if you have a job and youre still collectin that piddly shit, you need a raise or a higher paying job
05:25 <+CheckYourSix> OMFG... friend of mine uses HostGator for website/email and a lot of her emails are going direct to spam now and inbound emails aren't getting there. HG answer to her? "You have malware on your computer"
05:25 < MikeSpears> lol, nothing like that, just down to make as much money as I can heh
05:26 < The_Dv8or> was the HostGator customer service rep named Arslan or Chaprouti?
05:26 < MikeSpears> I could be making 100K+ and would still have side hustles
05:26 < MikeSpears> you never know when you're gonna lose everything
05:26 <+CheckYourSix> The_Dv8or: Lol no idea
05:26 < The_Dv8or> when I tell people my quote is 120K, it says to people that my time is worth something
05:26 <+CheckYourSix> MikeSpears: I would still have side hustles too, but my god, scanning papers? Fuck that
05:26 < MikeSpears> lol who said I do it
05:27 < MikeSpears> I only do shit like that for close friends, just let them do it directly
05:27 <+CheckYourSix> YOu did
05:27 < The_Dv8or> Id scan paper for a blowjob maybe if I hadnt gotten any in awhile and she had nice tits or superior talent
05:27 < MikeSpears> yea, they come over and use my printer lol
05:27 < The_Dv8or> you charge close friends to scan shit?
05:27 <+CheckYourSix> The_Dv8or: 120k quote for what?
05:27 < The_Dv8or> your story is falling apart
05:27 < MikeSpears> they volunteer to pay me
05:27 < MikeSpears> lol
05:27 < The_Dv8or> CheckYourSix: yearly salary
05:27 < MikeSpears> I'm always telling friends that they don't have to pay for shit like that
05:28 < The_Dv8or> not quite yet at the point where I want to run my own company
05:28 < MikeSpears> I haven't done it in awhile, as the old AIO died
05:28 < The_Dv8or> MikeSpears: you need to work on your lying game
05:28 < The_Dv8or> because it SUCKETH
05:28 < MikeSpears> it's a laser, so might repair it at some point
05:28 < MikeSpears> not lying
05:28 < MikeSpears> dead ass
05:29 < The_Dv8or> Im sure it is from taking it from homeless men 26 times a week
05:29 < MikeSpears> I legit have friends who'll pay me for shit like that, even tho I tell them they don't have to
05:29 < MikeSpears> and no.
05:29 < MikeSpears> fuck off
05:29 < MikeSpears> lol
05:29 < The_Dv8or> do you carry Snickers wrappers so they have a condom?  you never know what shit you might catch
05:29 < MikeSpears> ...
05:30 <+CheckYourSix> The_Dv8or: LMAO
05:30 < MikeSpears> will you go somewhere and do something useful
05:30 < The_Dv8or> I am doing something useful.  Setting up a Mac mini with Ubuntu so I can have me a Linux desktop
05:34 < The_Dv8or> boy, Id love an explanation as to why ubuntu-server is a dependency for open-iscsi
05:38 < MikeSpears> http://prntscr.com/j20u8q damn that's niceeeee
05:44 < sideup66> CheckYourSix: lol hostgator
05:44 < sideup66> my sister had them for her portfolio
05:44 < sideup66> would host it for her but comcrap
05:44 < sideup66> :(
05:44 < voidstar> The_Dv8or, https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/net/open-iscsi doesn't look like it is
05:45 < The_Dv8or> someone should tell them
05:45 < The_Dv8or> when I went to remove it, it removed ubuntu-server as well
05:47 <+CheckYourSix> Why does some software just not want to work with AD at a 2016 level?
05:47 <+CheckYourSix> Untangle and FreeNAS have issues. I'm sure there are more
05:48 < MikeSpears> https://prnt.sc/j20v58 my new favorite switch UI
05:49 <+CheckYourSix> http://www.hostgator.com/
05:49 <+CheckYourSix> Is that site down?
05:49 <+CheckYourSix> Or is it me
05:50 < voidstar> isup.me
05:50 < The_Dv8or> www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com
05:50 <+CheckYourSix> Nevermind
05:50 < The_Dv8or> I guess isup is easier
05:54 < The_Dv8or> dpkg and apt need to be better married together
05:54 < MikeSpears> CheckYourSix: its you
05:59 <+CheckYourSix> One of the block lists on Pi-hole blocked HG. ROFL
05:59 < The_Dv8or> okay, new Linux box semi-cleaned.  Now, which GUI to use.....
05:59 <+CheckYourSix> Granted, I'm using aggressive lists, but still
05:59 < The_Dv8or> whats all yalls preferred Linux desktop GUI?
06:00 < voidstar> awesome-wm
06:02 <+CheckYourSix> MikeSpears: That UI is nice. Super clean
06:03 <+CheckYourSix> But what in the hell do you have plugged in that's running 10 meg half duplex?
06:03 < MikeSpears> the cable the idrac is using is bad
06:04 < voidstar> I feel for you. my idrac experience is slow as using 100meg full duplex
06:04 < The_Dv8or> I have a dream… I dream of a day where all you need is a couple of redundant USB-C cables to carry all shit across all lines
06:04 < The_Dv8or> fuck this 8 NIC server shit
06:07 < MikeSpears> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/9KKeCzMB/20180407_000617.jpg
06:09 < The_Dv8or> whups
06:09 < The_Dv8or> closed the wrong shit
06:09 < MikeSpears> kek
06:10 < The_Dv8or> well, here goes a Cinnamon install
06:11 <+NinjaStyle> nuuu
06:11 < voidstar> god speed
06:12 < The_Dv8or> good friend of mine uses it as his primary desktop, figured Id give it a shot
06:13 < voidstar> check out mate if you're shopping around
06:14 < The_Dv8or> I read about it
06:14 <+NinjaStyle> cinnamon was poopy for me
06:14 < The_Dv8or> if Cinny doesnt sit well with me, that might be my next shot
06:14 <+NinjaStyle> i just use gnome
06:14 < voidstar> gnome 2 derivative where as cinnamon is gnome 3 derivative
06:16 < The_Dv8or> but 3 is obviously better than 2 because, you know 3 > 2
06:18 < voidstar> ehh
06:18 < voidstar> gnome 3 feels too much like unity for my liking
06:23 < ned0> has anyone used both the recent ubuntu release and ubuntu gnome?
06:23 < ned0> not sure of the differences now that the main release has dropped unity
06:25 < ned0> i think i'm going to give qubes a try next
06:28 < The_Dv8or> qubes sounds like a euphemism for testicles
06:29 < voidstar> The_Dv8or --inside-thoughts > /dev/null
06:29 < The_Dv8or> fuck that
06:30 < The_Dv8or> unless youre an op, in which case, “as you wish, mother"
06:30 < BytesAndCoffee> https://i.imgur.com/R0TW2ja.jpg
06:57 < The_Dv8or> got real quiet in here
07:03 <+NinjaStyle> shit The_Dv8or is still here
07:04 < bartoc> w00t my kickstart works
07:04 <+NinjaStyle> what are you kickstarting
07:04 < bartoc> centos
07:04 < bartoc> but autojoined to freeipa
07:05 < bartoc> you just set the hostname in the kickstart file and bam
07:05  * NinjaStyle mumbles "whatever that means"
07:05 < Demos> it means there's no shared or default password involved
07:05 < Demos> and it just installs, domain joins and comes online
07:12  * DrGibby| mumbles incoherently 
07:13 < DelMaximum> Hey everyone.
07:13 < DelMaximum> Brand new here, on a quest of sorts.
07:19 < sideup66> anyone in here on project fi
07:19 < sideup66> it looks pretty good
07:19 < sideup66> there is that and comcasts mobile plan now
07:19 < sideup66> comcast i dont trust though lol
07:20 < sideup66> those boatanchor routers can barely handle being a wifi ap
07:20 < AustinS> i would use Fi if i didn't just have my phone thru work
07:20 < AustinS> not gonna be one of those people running around with 2 phones.  but Fi looked good, I have a friend that uses it and don't hear complaints afaik
07:21 < sideup66> hm, yeah our company forced everyone into byod
07:21 < sideup66> and i have ne device, righ now fighting with how to sperate work stuff and personal stuff
07:21 < DelMaximum> Anyone have access to a reliable registry repair tool? Somehow the HD Audio device drivers just disappeared. No devices. Says code 19 in the device description field. This is windows 10 64 bit. Windows update gives nothing. Tried to reinstall realtek drivers, nothing appears to have chaged.
07:21 < AustinS> byod as in just device, or plan too (guessnig that since looking @ fi)
07:21 < sideup66> byod in device and plan
07:21 < sideup66> right now im trying to just move work junk over to google voice
07:22 < sideup66> but they cucked off the sms bridge which i need for one particular alert
07:22 < sideup66> and i have a bastardized workaround figured out but if someone knows a service out there that can do it...
07:22 < voidstar> I am also saddened by this
07:22 < sideup66> id try it
07:22 < sideup66> at least get alerts via voice
07:23 < sideup66> but if anyone has a free bridge that works
07:23 < sideup66> and can spit it out as a number...
07:23 < The_Dv8or> fuckin got Cinny runnin
07:23 < The_Dv8or> I am so 1337
07:23 < sideup66> unless i can maybe trick google into sending it via header fuckery?
07:24 < sideup66> well
07:24 < sideup66> google can send it
07:24 < AustinS> are you just trying to SEND texts?
07:24 < AustinS> (like from an alert script or something)
07:24 < sideup66> AustinS: yes, alert texts i get from a monitoring system
07:24 < sideup66> yes
07:24 < AustinS> what was the complaint against Twilio earlier when I mentioned it?  I do that and i just literally can run
07:25 < AustinS>  send-twilio-sms.sh +1....... "my message here"
07:25 < AustinS> random super basic script that calls their API
07:25 < sideup66> this is an email i am getting
07:25 < sideup66> AustinS: how much does it run you
07:25 < AustinS> so something to parse the email and then call API? i guess it's hard to know what your use case is from just how you described it
07:26 < sideup66> i recieve an email from a packaged alert system at my job
07:26 < AustinS> the number is $1/month I think? and then texts are .. super minimal
07:26 < sideup66> as a text in my sms (verizon has a bridge for this)
07:26 < sideup66> prefer free honestly if i can...
07:26 < sideup66> although i get the cost is trivial
07:27 < sideup66> can twilio be setup with an email address
07:27 < AustinS> yeah I'd say good like finding a place that allows people to send out free SMS', since it'd just be riddled with abuse
07:27 < sideup66> and just send out via my number
07:27 < sideup66> ideally id want that
07:27 < sideup66> have no need for the api
07:27 < sideup66> as i can set the work system to just email that address
07:28 < AustinS> i don't think ... so.. I'm more just not understanding what you mean.  Twilio is a phone services provider, numbers, SMS, MMS, SIP trunking..  email plays no part in that
07:28 < AustinS> you'd have to have something that received the email and just kicked off the call to Twilio's API to send a text.
07:29 < AustinS> emails not my favorite thing and I don't dabble in parsing incoming emails because i don't have a need to, but I'm sure there's something out there
07:29 < sideup66> yeah it seems paid ones to do this are super inexpensive
07:29 < AustinS> https://www.twilio.com/blog/2014/05/send-and-receive-sms-messages-via-email-with-twilio-and-sendgrid.html
07:29 < sideup66> for like 250,000 messages
07:29 < AustinS> old blog with examples of how to use a couple services to do that, found that on top result when just googling a simple sentence describing kinda what you wnated
07:29 < AustinS> may be useful, or give you an idea
07:29 < sideup66> twilio sends it out via a phone number right
07:29 < AustinS> brb/bbs
07:30 < sideup66> okay
07:30 < AustinS> yes, all texts have to be via phone #.  the only reason the email works is its just Verizon masquerading it to their users, but youre at their mercy of not sending somethjing along if it's too big, they see it as spammy or its hit too frequently
07:30 < AustinS> i'd rather trust true SMS
07:31 < voidstar> TheTinker86, how are the freepbx escapades?
07:33 < sideup66> AustinS: yes i know, other services use real sms
07:34 < sideup66> sadly this one does not, though im going to talk to the devs, see if its a thing that can be done
07:35 < TheTinker86> hello my friends
07:35 < TheTinker86> hi voidstar
07:36 < TheTinker86> so the freepbx boxes are alive lol
07:36 < voidstar> better than the alternative
07:36 < TheTinker86> i think the main issue is ram
07:37 < TheTinker86> 2 of the 3 systems, that have issues often, only have 1gb ram. the other has 3gb. less issues
07:39 < sideup66> Actually AustinS I realized something
07:39 < sideup66> When that masquarade happens in the carriers relay all that is doing is changing header info, correct?
07:44 < voidstar> TheTinker86, yeah that seems quite a bit anemic
07:45 < sideup66> Actually my email system works if not for one caveat
07:45 < The_Dv8or> looks like DSLreports just took a dive
07:45 < sideup66> It does email the message into Google voice
07:45 < sideup66> But it doesn't flag the message in voice as new, so no alert
07:47 < voidstar> TheTinker86, https://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+dimensioning good read to determine your ballpark system requirements
07:51 < sideup66> Actually googling paid
07:51 < sideup66> Very inexpensive and plenty exist...
08:10 < DrGibby|> Hey as long as you don't store your clients passwords in cleartext...
08:10 < DrGibby|> And have "amazing security"
08:11 < AustinS> ogod, just finished building kernel, but it added "centos" in it smh. defeated the whole purpose of building it.  starting overrr then maybe I get to leave
08:11 < AustinS> and haha @ tmobile, I saw that thread and thought it was a joke and then I was like .. oh :(
08:12 < voidstar> moar cores
08:12 < DrGibby|> https://twitter.com/ret2twit/status/982462726516637696?s=19
08:12 < AustinS> my CPU would power through it a lot faster iffff i wasn't building it in a VM, I'm sure :P
08:18 <+NinjaStyle> i was gonna buy snackoverflow.com but it is taken :(
08:19 < DrGibby|> Smackoverflow?
08:20 < voidstar> sufferunderflow ?
08:21 < catbeard> smackoverflow
08:21 < catbeard> slackoverflow
08:22 < catbeard> backpageoverflow
08:22 < catbeard> lol
08:24 < voidstar> ackstayoverfloway
08:25 < catbeard> atway
08:27 < TheTinker86> guys my internet at home r poopies
08:28 < TheTinker86> and i think my router and or modem is an issue
08:29 < TheTinker86> Cable modem + home router recomendations? I host my own media server that several people may use at once. aka needs a decent throughput for data
08:30 < voidstar> make sure you're running a docsis 3.0 modem. I'm running a pcengines apu2 with pfsense
08:31 < TheTinker86> what is docsis3?
08:31 < voidstar> usually you can open 192.168.100.1 to see your modem's status page
08:31 < TheTinker86> ive got my modem up
08:31 < TheTinker86> well my router
08:31 < zunk> TheTinker86: buy a dual gb nic computer and just use pfsense like any sane person
08:32 < voidstar> ^
08:32 < TheTinker86> dual gb nic. i have a gig nic in my current server. whats pfsense?
08:32 < zunk> pfsense is a router ps
08:32 < zunk> os
08:32 < zunk> you need dual nic if you want to use it as a router
08:33 < TheTinker86> is it a full os or just software?
08:33 < voidstar> full os
08:33 < zunk> full os based on freebsd
08:33 < TheTinker86> why would i want to do that with a pc? why not just a router?
08:33 < zunk> its foss
08:33 < zunk> because a computer is a helluva lot stronger
08:33 < zunk> and you can customize it how you see fit, for the same money
08:34 < TheTinker86> for the same money?
08:34 < voidstar> there are appliances that are purpose built for pfsense
08:35 < voidstar> like the apu2c4 I have. all in it was ~$200
08:35 < voidstar> about the same price for the 'extreme' plastic routers
08:35 < voidstar> https://www.pcengines.ch/newshop.php?c=4
08:35 < voidstar> never had an issue
08:35 < voidstar> other than the learning curve
08:36 < voidstar> but I signed up for that one :shrug:
08:36 < TheTinker86> learning curve isnt an issue
08:36 < TheTinker86> do i really need all that power for gaming and a media server?
08:38 < voidstar> maybe not, but I can't recommend any consumer router after using it
08:38 < voidstar> you could go the ddwrt/tomato/openwrt route with a consumer router
08:39 < benjgvps> A $60 Mikrotik hAP ac² will route up to a gigabit with dual band wifi for $60. Same OS as their $4000+ routers
08:39 < TheTinker86> who has a 4k router?
08:40 < voidstar> you'd be surprised
08:40 < TheTinker86> but does breaking a consumer router with ddwrt or open, does that really enhance the capabilities to that extreme?
08:41 < TheTinker86> like. i play games and my media server gets 2 or 3 things streaming from it at once
08:42 < benjgvps> I wouldn't bother with DDWRT with Mikrotik and Ubiquiti stuff being cheap as fuck. If you just want a regular consumer router that's easy to setup and works good enough, Asus makes some half decent routers
08:42 < voidstar> ^
08:42 < TheTinker86> let me bring it back to the issues ive got
08:43 < TheTinker86> this router i have has been fine the last year. since i moved, and setup internet, ive had issues
08:43 < TheTinker86> i got rid of the comcast modem and got a basic netgear that could support up to a 300mbps internet. everything seemed fine, then winter happened and i noticed horrible lag during seemingly random times
08:44 < TheTinker86> comcast came a few times. eventually they realized the cable from the hub down the street to my house, was hella old
08:45 < TheTinker86> they replaced it
08:46 < TheTinker86> tech left his 'test modem' and i didnt notice issues that week. but i didnt play as much as usual
08:46 < TheTinker86> now that im back on my modem. i keep having random issues
08:47 < TheTinker86> no issues for days, then randomly i'll be stuck with high pings
08:48 < TheTinker86> i'll open a ping to google. it'll be 80ms. which isnt great but im not dying. then randomly every 5 or so is a 300 up to 1000ms
08:50 < voidstar> your modem is one listed here? http://mynewmodem.xfinity.com/
08:51 < TheTinker86> i have a netgear one now
08:54 < AustinS> that much variety/inconsistency just sounds like something is just .. not good on Comcast's side
08:59 < TheTinker86> any modem recomendations?
08:59 < TheTinker86> for me to at least test this stuff out with
08:59 < TheTinker86> cus i cant say 100% that mine is 'good'
08:59 < AustinS> what modem do you have? not router, but modem
09:00 < AustinS> or is yours a all in one type deal
09:00 < TheTinker86> a netgear one from target. i could get the exact model if needed
09:00 < benjgvps> I like Arris, I'd recommend getting something with 24 downstream channels
09:00 < benjgvps> If possible, get a dumb one without wifi built in, then get a separate router
09:01 < AustinS> or pay the $5/mo to rent one from Comcast, see if it resolves any issue
09:01 < AustinS> vs. going and buying a modem (decent one will run you a good amount)
09:05 < TheTinker86> i dont mind spending money to make problems go away
09:06 < TheTinker86> and the issues started with a comcast modem
09:06 < benjgvps> He has a good point, most cable modems will be around $50-70. You could rent the modem for a month or two and bug comcast again. They won't be able to blame your modem at that point
09:10 < AustinS> maybe have a tech come out again after saying you're still having issues, tell them you'd like to rent a modem from them to try that as well and have them bring it with and install it
09:10 < AustinS> so they can see that it's still shit with their modem (or that fixes it)
09:10 < AustinS> but probably the first
09:13 < benjgvps> Man, I'm a dumbass. I was going to try getting this Icewarp email server migrated again since it failed last thursday. Unfortunately, I forgot to start the incremental copy earlier today so I would have to wait another 4 hours before I can start the actual migration tool
09:17 < benjgvps> Since it's 3AM, I'd need a lot more fucks to give to wait for this to finish. It's saturdays problem now, I guess...
09:18 < voidstar> incremental-copy && migration-tool
09:18 < voidstar> sleep in
09:18 < benjgvps> I wish
09:21 < benjgvps> I need to do some manual database exports, change a bunch of settings on both sides and blindly hope support's recommendation for last weeks failure will actually work. Who knew migrating from Windows Server 2003 to Linux wouldn't go 100% smoothly?
09:22 < voidstar> if it did go smoothly, many of us wouldn't have work
09:34 < Stoob> welp for those wondering i did replace the san controller and nothing bad has happened yet
09:34 < Stoob> #fuckitfriday
12:31 < Hempux> Wow Stoob so brave
12:31 < Hempux> Good day everyone
12:55 <+kbni> lel
14:06 < Giane> HI all i'm looking for a software/app/excel/something to store information about my server (ip,users,password) and the application running on it and the port used by this application
14:31 <+AnonymooseReddtr> morning all
16:06 < sideup66> So
16:06 < sideup66> This is making me rethink tmo https://gizmodo.com/did-t-mobile-really-just-admit-it-stores-customer-passw-1825058206/amp
16:08 < Holo> sideup66 sooo USA tmobile says they do not do that
16:09 < sideup66> Oh really
16:09 < sideup66> I have another friend who tells me TMobile is trying to sell itself but is shot down by the FCC
16:10 < Holo> ya they did
16:10 < Holo> AT&T almost acquired them
16:11 < Holo> tho now I think it was a well played play to get some more spectrum
16:11 < Holo> Tmobile came out better in the failure
16:11 < sideup66> So are they actively still trying to sell the company
16:11 <+CheckYourSix> That would make AT&T huge
16:12 < sideup66> Or are they going to stay, I see news about this but at the latest it stopped almost a year ago
16:12 < Holo> CheckYourSix sprint was crying
16:12 < sideup66> But this whole clearyext thing also terrifies me
16:12 < sideup66> And Sprint tried to be bought too
16:12 < Holo> ya
16:12 <+CheckYourSix> Sprint is junk anyway
16:12 < sideup66> Yeah
16:12 < sideup66> If they die nothing of value lost imho
16:13 < Holo> I hate it how its still fucking 2 GSM networks vs 2 CDMA networks
16:14 < sideup66> Yeah I'm trying to look outside Verizon, and like tmo but that little slip....come on
16:14 < Holo> if everyone gets forced to the simcard train
16:14 < Holo> prices will go down
16:14 < Holo> because the users can just keep their phones and switch
16:15 < m4221> Hey
16:16 < sideup66> I mean I do simcards as it stands
16:17 < sideup66> And this same person pointed out that yeah tmo bought a shit ton of towers but isn't maintaining thrm
16:17 < sideup66> Because they don't want the company
16:17 < Holo> tmobile has gotten better for me
16:17 < Holo> a new tower was added in my area
16:17 < Holo> or old tower
16:17 < Holo> lol
16:19 < sideup66> Yeah I know
16:19 < sideup66> Look at the coverage map, only people better/same are verizon
16:20 < sideup66> Which is my reason to not leave but they overcharge for it terribly
16:20 < sideup66> And I think the coverage is lapsing, it's a big, old network that needs a major overhail
16:20 < Holo> only real difference these days is that verizon has better freeway/interstate coverage
16:21 < Holo> sprint is overloaded as F
16:21 < Holo> tmobile is dirt cheap
16:21 < Holo> atnt is ?
16:21 <+CheckYourSix> Not really
16:21 <+CheckYourSix> They all cost the same now
16:21 < sideup66> It seems tmo has more value though
16:21 <+CheckYourSix> Tmobile $70/month for single line. So is Verizon
16:21 < sideup66> More for my money
16:22 < Holo> well. i pay $25 a month for unlimited call, text, 4.5 Gb of data
16:22 <+CheckYourSix> Tmo lets you hit like 50 GB before throttling
16:22 < Holo> sooo
16:22 < sideup66> I saw prepaid 6 gig for 55
16:22 <+CheckYourSix> What carrier?
16:22 < sideup66> Tmo
16:22 < Holo> T-mobile
16:22 <+CheckYourSix> Holo:
16:22 < Holo> lol
16:22 <+CheckYourSix> Do you have 4 lines?
16:22 < Holo> ya
16:22 <+CheckYourSix> Yeah, that's why. Cheap with multiple lines. Cost a fortune solo
16:22 < Holo> 4 for 100
16:22 < sideup66> That's not bad
16:22 < Holo> just get people on a contract
16:23 < sideup66> I have unlimited vz dats
16:23 < sideup66> Data
16:23 < sideup66> But they limit stuff which I don't like
16:23 < Holo> strangers will happily pay you for a dirt cheap phone bill
16:23 < sideup66> With my work discount/reembursement unlimited prepaid is 8 bucks/mo
16:23 <+CheckYourSix> Holo: Yeah, no thanks. Not gonna chase down random assholes for $25/mo
16:24 <+CheckYourSix> I'd have to do it with good friends or family members
16:24 < Holo> pfft
16:24 < Holo> again
16:24 < Holo> contract
16:24 < Holo> pay up front with a deposit
16:24 < Holo> they dont pay? well you have 4 months of pay to find a replacement
16:25 < sideup66> Again
16:25 < sideup66> Alot of running around for no gain lol
16:25 < Holo> craigslsit
16:25 < Holo> craigslsit
16:25 < Holo> bla
16:25 < Holo> wtf osx
16:25 < sideup66> Not dealing with assholes on there
16:25 < Holo> lol
16:25 < sideup66> But yeah I'm between Verizon and tmo right now
16:26 < Holo> sideup66 With my work discount/reembursement unlimited prepaid is 8 bucks/mo
16:26 < Holo> um
16:26 < Holo> stick with that $8 a month
16:27 <+CheckYourSix> I get a free AT&T iPhone with unlimited data from work, so I just cancelled my personal phone and use this
16:27 < sideup66> Tmo could be free
16:34 <+AnonymooseReddtr> hmm
16:34 <+AnonymooseReddtr> anyone awake
16:35 < m4221> AnonymooseReddtr: hey
16:36 < m4221> Remember to take care of your health people
17:16 < m4221> Anyone up?
17:22 < voidstar> up? sure. alive? nah
17:33 < m4221> voidstar: haha
17:36 < m4221> Anyone else up?
17:38 < rr> ifup rr
17:41 < m4221> Heh
17:42 < SleePy> *insert she said joke here*
17:48 < m4221> I am kind of worried about the results of my blood work and feeling very off for the last three months
17:49 < coderphive> m4221 why
17:57 < sideup66> Woo found a service
17:57 < sideup66> https://www.messagebird.com/en-us/sms/pricing
17:59 < coderphive> sideup66 why not just use twilio?
17:59 < sideup66> What's twilio's pricimg
18:01 < sideup66> Yeah a little higher (not much .0075 vs .005) but message bird requires no damn server or setu
18:01 < sideup66> Twilio I gotta build a mail server to get the email, run the program to parse it, then send it back to twilio
18:01 < voidstar> and inbound is free
18:01 < sideup66> Don't care about inbound
18:01 < sideup66> Not using that, this is literally sending me monitoring alerts, that's it
18:02 < sideup66> Unless they are also dinging me on the email coming in
18:02 < coderphive> oh
18:02 < coderphive> You're talking about mail
18:02 < sideup66> Yes
18:02 < coderphive> We use SendGrid
18:02 < coderphive> idk if that helps for your use case
18:03 < coderphive> Pretty cheap initially but pricing goes up as you scale
18:03 < coderphive> That's a common criticism
18:09 <@JollyRgrs> hey, we use sendgrid, too
18:10 <@JollyRgrs> but we just use it for bulk emailing
18:10 < ned0> do you guys know the four most commonly used passwords?
18:11 <@JollyRgrs> what? 4?
18:11 <@JollyRgrs> there's only 1 password
18:11 <@JollyRgrs> THE password is *******
18:13 < sideup66> I'm looking at it coderphile, the big appeal of sendbirdto me is that I don't need to build a mailserver (which can be a PITA
18:13 < coderphive> SendGrid Reputation Manager ++++++++++
18:13 < sideup66> )
18:13 < coderphive> When I took over at our company one of my first statements was, "We will not manage email of any form here"
18:14 < coderphive> I feel like people took a big sigh of relief
18:15 < Holo> then you announced that MS was handling it all
18:16 < sideup66> Yeah that is more than I need lol
18:16 < sideup66> So I think sendbird is it
18:16 < coderphive> kek no
18:16 < sideup66> I mean
18:16 < coderphive> Google Apps fam
18:16 < sideup66> Coderphile wat
18:16 < sideup66> Oh
18:16 < coderphive> Google Apps and SendGrid
18:17 < sideup66> Wtf does google apps have to do with sendgrid when its google dropping the ball when they rip put their mail bridge to promote project fi
18:18 < sideup66> Wtf is apps gonna do for me
18:19 < coderphive> Sorry
18:19 < coderphive> Our corporate email is handled by Google Apps and SendGrid manages our outbound bulk mail sending
18:20 < sideup66> Oh lol, I thought you meant I should
18:21 < sideup66> I was like for what I need sendbird looks good, I'll set it up for me and convince bossman to look into it maybe for work in general
18:21 < sideup66> Goal is to get all monitoring nonsense into Google voice
18:22 < sideup66> This way when I'm not oncall it's a. Not cluttering my phone and b. Easy to tell gvoice to stfu
18:22 < catbeard> i just set DND until someone complains about me being on DND
18:22 < coderphive> Sounds like what you really need to do is concentrate on removing the noise from your monitoring
18:22 < catbeard> coderphive: also this
18:23 < catbeard> like down confirmation over 3 minutes instead of 1 with at least 3 confirmations
18:23 < sideup66> coderphive: that is something we are working on, big corp so it'll take time
18:23 < coderphive> sideup66 https://landing.google.com/sre/book/chapters/monitoring-distributed-systems.html
18:23 < coderphive> This gives some really good insights on monitoring in general
18:23 < catbeard> sideup66: we have a sensu/pingdom/hund integration
18:23 < sideup66> At work we have a service called splunj
18:23 < sideup66> Splunk*
18:24 < sideup66> That does all monitoring
18:24 < sideup66> It's like a giant ass db, reports are nice
18:24 < coderphive> Want some unsolicited advice?
18:24 < coderphive> or no
18:24 < sideup66> K why not
18:24 < coderphive> Splunk is not a monitoring system
18:25 < pcspkr> > asking if someone wants unsolicited advice
18:25 < coderphive> Their core competency is not monitoring anyway and they lack a lot of features
18:25 < coderphive> Using something like Prometheus will turn your monitoring game way up
18:26 < coderphive> Splunk is really good at ingesting logs and metrics and visualizing them
18:26 < catbeard> https://i.imgur.com/Fo4crgt.png
18:26 < catbeard> dis here
18:26 < coderphive> Sensu is great too
18:26 < pcspkr> lol sensu
18:27 < catbeard> we have it so that when we hide sensu alerts, it pauses the pingdom check and suppresses further slack alerts
18:27 < coderphive> If you can code that is
18:27 < coderphive> If you can't you probably hate it
18:27 < pcspkr> running fucking ruby scripts every minute or so is a joke
18:27 < coderphive> pcspkr what do you think most monitoring agents are doing?
18:28 < catbeard> it's quite nice
18:28 < catbeard> when you have HP alerts coming into 1 slack room, and inline acknowledge/resolve
18:28 < coderphive> Actually not most, all
18:29 < catbeard> also if it fixes itself, sensu resolves the check in slack
18:29 < coderphive> Yeap. Prom and Sensu are really great products.
18:29 < sideup66> coderphive: we actually are big enough to have in house splunk devs
18:30 < catbeard> there's like 20 'hey im apache i just restarted with SIGHUP' a day tho
18:30 < sideup66> So things we need Al la carte they do
18:30 < catbeard> may need to extend the checks a little longer
18:30 < coderphive> sideup66 That doesn't really matter. Anyone can code on splunk.
18:32 < coderphive> My comments on Splunk have more to do with the fact that Splunks system for alerting at scale is not comparable to a system like Sensu or Prometheus
18:32 < catbeard> iunno we monitor like 2500+ servers
18:32 < catbeard> very few probs
18:33 < coderphive> Splunks alerting system is clunky af
18:33 < coderphive> I only say all that because a previous employer forced me to use it
18:33 < catbeard> Stay back man! You forced me to use this! (picks up toothbrush)
18:33 < coderphive> Splunk is great, but they should stick to their core competencies rather than leading people down their frail features
18:33 < coderphive> kek
18:34 < sideup66> Being a huge ass bank (don't wanna name drop because I don't want work trouble, hope everyone understands that), they aren't going to do that because I bitch
18:35 < coderphive> ah, yeah
18:35 < coderphive> Big Enterprises are usually who let Splunk talk them into that kind of crap
18:37 < catbeard> heh banks will do anything to not spend $$
18:37 < catbeard> at least credit unions lol
18:37 < m4221> Welcome to Panera Bread!  Try our new Customer Data Special!
18:39 < m4221> sideup66: do you have as/400s?
18:42 < coderphive> Jesus man, I fucking hate dealing with country people
18:43 < m4221> coderphive: That that puter
18:43 < catbeard> what you mean by that
18:43 < m4221> That thar*
18:43 < catbeard> i'm a country people, i just have no accent
18:43 < coderphive> I unfortunately bought my car from a dealership a little outside Dallas and I'm scheduling to bring it in for maintenance
18:43 < sideup66> A what
18:43 < catbeard> my god man
18:44 < catbeard> hope you pass the emissions test
18:44 < coderphive> This woman is so old and country that she can't understand why I'd want to know if this is covered under the maintenance package I got
18:44 < coderphive> "Well Whhhhhyyy'd you'd want to know that siiiiiiir"
18:45 < coderphive> Bitch because it's supposed to be covered and I'm not driving down there to find out you you're pulling some surprise bullshit on me
18:45 < coderphive>  /rant
18:45 < coderphive> I'll probably call Ford and have them move my service contract to an inner city dealership
18:46 < m4221> coderphive: whatchu want wit dat?
18:46 < coderphive> kek
18:47 < coderphive> Texas' country people are slowly starting to disappear but they're not gone from everything yet
18:49 < m4221> coderphive: what in tarnation is that?
18:49 < coderphive> thankfully nobody uses the word tarnation, I'd probably die
18:49 < coderphive> like on site
18:57 < starbomba> coderphive does that women add an unnecessary "r" to everything
18:58 < starbomba> for instance, does she pronounce "warsh" like "harsh"
18:58 < coderphive> god yes
18:58 < coderphive> There's all kinds of random sounds in her English
18:58 < starbomba> if i were a linguist i'd probably hang out all the time in texas
19:00 <+CheckYourSix> Jesus fucking christ FedEx. They couldn't manage a saturday delivery if their life depended on it
19:00 <+CheckYourSix> Never even came to my house. Just tagged it "customer not available or business closed" and left no door tag or anything because they NEVER. FUCKING. CAME. Now I have to drive to the location
19:03 < starbomba> that happened to me with USPS
19:04 < starbomba> i think some of their drivers consider weekend service optional
19:04  * m4221 tases starbomba for demanding service
19:07 <+CheckYourSix> This happens all the time with FedEx
19:07  * m4221 tases CheckYourSix for getting violent
19:07 <+CheckYourSix> I wish I could be that worthless at my job and not get fired
19:07  * starbomba flings m4221 back down the quarry
19:08  * m4221 slaps starbomba with a trout
19:08 < starbomba> your trout is too tiny to reach me from a quarry
19:08 < starbomba> senor tiny trout
19:08 < m4221> She said different last night
19:08 < starbomba> that was just to save your feeligns
19:10  * m4221 tases starbomba 
19:43 < m4221> coderphive: where were you???
19:44 < coderphive> My laptop powers down when I walk away
19:45 < m4221> coderphive: you are useless still
19:45 < m4221> Jk
19:45 < coderphive> kek
20:01 < starbomba> m4221 is feeling single lady saucy today
20:23 < starbomba> anyone here taking selfies with a porn star
20:24  * m4221 reports starbomba to HR for harassment
20:26  * starbomba locks m4221 in a porta-potty
20:30 < SleePy> I'm starting to hate Edge Routers...  Difficult to configure advanced setups
20:30 < m4221> SleePy: stfu
20:31 < SleePy> How are you today?
20:31 < m4221> SleePy: betrayed--by you
20:31 < onicrom> does anyone know if rsyslog will restart a tcp connection should the underlying socket be silently killed ?
20:31 < SleePy> Thats nice
20:32 < m4221> SleePy: you hate edge? :P
20:32 < SleePy> Both the browser and the router
20:33 < L3gacy> good bacon to all and to all some good bacon!
20:34 < SleePy> I've spent hours in my home lab getting it setup to route traffic properly on a lan loop.  Port 80 works fine external to my wan ip that maps into a local server.  Lan devices can hit it.  I finally got it to at least translate it to the lan ip and send traffic there, local server tcpdump shows it receive tcp packets and send some back.  I don't get any back.  Router doesn't show it and my other local device d
20:34 < SleePy> oesn't get it.  Direct communication works fine
20:34 < SleePy> Shoulda bought myself a pfsense router for my home lab and been done with it :)
20:34  * m4221 kicks SleePy 
20:37 < SleePy> Only way I can get it working is to setup a snat.  But the forces masq on my lan ips.
20:48 < starbomba> rich guys playing spades. don't see that every day
20:50 < m4221> starbomba: SleePy said pfsense!  Fire him
20:51 < starbomba> why do you hate pfsense, m4221
20:51 < m4221> Hahahaha it sucks
20:51 < m4221> Jk
20:56  * starbomba attaches a fence lock to a chain and goes all road warrior on m4221
20:57 < SleePy> Its all homelab fun :)
21:01 < m4221> Hahahaha
21:08 < mkillebrew> why would you want to work when you're not working
21:24 < coderphive> Work is continuous
21:42 < suttin> butts
21:51 < coderphive> kek, never thought I'd unsub from /r/sysadmin but I guess that's a thing
21:56 <+CheckYourSix> Who even follows the subreddit?
21:57 < voidstar> who even has an account on reddit?
21:57 < coderphive> That's probably true
22:00 < suttin> who even hangs out in reddit stuff
22:00 < SleePy> About 235,242 people it seems
22:03 < starbomba> anyone here going on vacation to gray butte
22:07 <+NinjaStyle> i have a reddit account now, i went on a hiatus but i needed one for work
22:20 < starbomba> ninjastyle why is the denver magazine called "5280"
22:20 < starbomba> oh
22:20 < starbomba> mile high
22:20 < starbomba> jesus
22:21 <+NinjaStyle> :)
22:21 < starbomba> dang mtn folk
22:21 < starbomba> i met someone who travelled from denver and she had like a 250 page magazine named "5280" that looked like it could double for self-defense
22:22 <+NinjaStyle> ive never read one of them
22:23 < starbomba> it's probably for swanky folks, like 'south beach' magazine here
22:24 < starbomba> you can tell those people because their pinkies instinctively pop up when they drink their diet cokes
22:24 < starbomba> right, millerboss?
22:26 <+NinjaStyle> i need to get better at RE
22:26 < starbomba> s/RE/REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
22:26 <+layer-eight> NinjaStyle meant: "i need to get better at REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
22:34 < starbomba> five-ton working at optimal efficiency
23:00 < voidstar> (almost) every client I do IT work for asks me if I can update, work on, or create their website. I'm not a web developer/designer but I can hack on a site. I feel like I'm missing out on potential income. thoughts?
23:02 < Casteil> don't
23:02 < voidstar> that's what I was leaning towards
23:04 < pcspkr> voidstar: they'll ask you to really make it pop
23:04 < Casteil> that's the thing, keeping clients happy for web dev is a full time job
23:33 <+CheckYourSix> voidstar: Don't. Run far away. It's the most miserable job and you will regret it very much. Yes, you can make money, but you will hate everybody and never want to deal with clients again. I'd work helldesk with end users for an eternity before I ever went back to web dev for clients.
23:35 < voidstar> I had a web dev gig in HS and it was pretty much what you described. I though I'd give it a rethink since it's been some time. yeah, I'll keep declining the requests
23:35 < voidstar> s/though/thought
23:35 <+layer-eight> voidstar meant: "I had a web dev gig in HS and it was pretty much what you described. I thought I'd give it a rethink since it's been some time. yeah, I'll keep declining the requests"
23:38 <+CheckYourSix> voidstar: My most common issue was "I need information about your company and some content to put on the site, like info about your products" Client says "Ok". I keep asking for months, then give up and work on other projects. Client emails "I WANT MY FUCKING WEBSITE ONLINE BY TOMORROW OR I'M GOING ELSEWHERE AND I NEED A REFUND"
23:38 <+CheckYourSix> It happened a lot
23:39 <+CheckYourSix> I'd be like "I've been asking for 6 months. I can put it up as soon as you give me content. And no, there is no such thing as a refund in this world"
23:40 < starbomba> tara from sons of anarchy is a dirty dirty girl in this show billions
23:40 < voidstar> 0 0 * * 1 can-i-get-that-info.sh
23:40 <+CheckYourSix> voidstar: +++
23:40 <+CheckYourSix> I never watched sons of anarchy
23:41 <+CheckYourSix> But Billions +++
23:41 < suttin> eww cronjob
23:41 < coderphive> guys
23:41 < suttin> guies
23:41 < coderphive> All I have is high school experience and I'm trying to get a job as an IT guy
23:41 < suttin> also I lost voice :(
23:41 < coderphive> help me out
23:42 <+CheckYourSix> What part of IT do you want to get into?
23:42 < voidstar> I made business cards and some tools. working out so far
23:42 < coderphive> all of it
23:42 < voidstar> s/and/and bought
23:42 <+layer-eight> voidstar meant: "I made business cards and bought some tools. working out so far"
23:42 < coderphive> I want to make millions installing printers bc that seems easy
23:42 < suttin> no one wants to work with printers
23:42 < coderphive> good
23:42 < coderphive> I'll corner the market
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