--- Log opened Mon Apr 09 00:00:09 2018 --- Day changed Mon Apr 09 2018 00:00 <+NinjaStyle> Hunterkll_: nice, you flying somewhere on icelandair? 00:04 < Hunterkll_> nah WOW 00:04 < Hunterkll_> NinjaStyle, ^ 00:04 <+NinjaStyle> oh ok 00:04 <+NinjaStyle> i think those re the only airlines i have seen in iceland 00:05 < Hunterkll_> goin to that CCP fanfest dawg 00:05 < Hunterkll_> got $200 worth of ISK in my pocket and $70 of GBP 00:05 < Hunterkll_> i am feelin' london for lunch tuesday or wednesday 00:05 < Hunterkll_> lol 00:05 < voidstar> chinese communist party? 00:05 < Hunterkll_> nah 00:06 < Hunterkll_> they aint got internet spaceships 00:06 < Hunterkll_> NinjaStyle, i told A-KO to come meet me for lunch in london but he said no :'( 00:07 <+NinjaStyle> london is far 00:07 < Hunterkll_> its fucking $60 from reykjavik 00:07 <+NinjaStyle> damn 00:07 < Hunterkll_> it aint far at all 00:07 < Hunterkll_> ............ if you're already in europe 00:07 <+NinjaStyle> right 00:08 < Hunterkll_> yea 00:08 < Hunterkll_> i still haven't 100% decided on paris or london for lunch 00:08 < Hunterkll_> but shit happens! 00:08 < Hunterkll_> i think i'll just go to KEF drunk and buy a ticket to wherever is cheapest 00:11 < The_Dv8or> sup 00:11 <+NinjaStyle> Hunterkll_: seems like fun 00:11 < Hunterkll_> fuck it 00:11 < Hunterkll_> i'll do it live 00:12 < Hunterkll_> 4 minutes till boarding i guess 00:12 < Hunterkll_> something something already validated passport blah blah blah 00:16 < czarbomba> sex tourism in iceland seems like a risky proposition 00:16 < Sousapro> Hunterkll_: have a fun trip! 00:16 < Sousapro> Hunterkll_: don't get crabs! 00:17 < The_Dv8or> fuck going to Iceland 00:17 < The_Dv8or> wait, are you in Europe already 00:24 <+NinjaStyle> The_Dv8or: your mom is in europe 00:26 < The_Dv8or> my mom aint never going to Europe again 00:27 < The_Dv8or> motherfucker.... Chrome seems to have no interest in working on Linux 00:27 < The_Dv8or> or at least in Cinnamon 00:29 <+NinjaStyle> thats weird i had it working in cinnamon no prob 00:29 <+NinjaStyle> but i recommend gnome if you wanna not have shitty fuckery 00:32 < czarbomba> i'm running 17.2 on an ancient netbook that occasionally sees chromium crash out like it was out of memory for no reason 00:32 < czarbomba> but even on another ancient laptop, a core2, it runs fine 00:34 < czarbomba> oh n/m the netbook is running xfce now\ 00:35 < czarbomba> if the rain stays to the north i am down for a walk to coldstone 00:47 <+CheckYourSix> Cold Stone+++ 00:47 <+CheckYourSix> You make me want to go there now 01:01 < ned0> anyone tried Qubes? 01:25 < brianx> not yet, but Qubes does look interesting. 01:25 < ned0> i like the idea but am just worried about how difficult it will be to get up and running 01:25 < ned0> just going to give it a go and see 01:26 < brianx> i imagine it won't run inside a vm, or if it does the performance will suck. 01:32 < enix> I like how modest Qubes is 01:33 < enix> A *resonably* secure OS 01:33 < enix> so if there's any issues you can just be like "oh well they did say reasonably 01:37 < mkillebrew> Qubes is neat, but now you just have xen as a pinch point 01:38 < mkillebrew> and xen has a history of being able to escape the vm 01:39 < MikeSpears> sup fuckers 01:39 < MikeSpears> lol 01:39 < MikeSpears> sup CheckYourSix 01:39 < czarbomba> what do you do with a drunken gibby 01:39 <+CheckYourSix> MikeSpears: Redoing a lot of my homelab stuff with containers 01:39 < czarbomba> what do you do with a drunken gibby 01:39 < czarbomba> what do you do with a drunken gibby 01:39 <+CheckYourSix> czarbomba: Give him more Live PD 01:39 < czarbomba> ear-lie in the mornin 01:40 < MikeSpears> czarbomba: give him coffee 01:41 <+NinjaStyle> did my taxes woo 01:42 < MikeSpears> ugh, I wanna load ubuntu on my laptop, but waiting for 18.04 01:42 < MikeSpears> or should I just do it, then dist-upgrade when it comes out 01:43 < MikeSpears> ooh: You’ll see a new ‘minimal installation’ option when you do a fresh install of Ubuntu 18.04. This minimal installation is nothing but the regular Ubuntu install without most of the regular software. You’ll just get a web browser and a handful of utilities. 01:43 < MikeSpears> People who like their operating system clean of bloatware and prefer to install applications of their choice may like and use this option. 01:43 < Two9A> So, it's Debian? 01:43 < MikeSpears> oooh, 18.04 comes with VS Code as the default IDE 01:43 <+CheckYourSix> NinjaStyle: How did you make out? I still need to file mine :-/ 01:44 < MikeSpears> https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-18-04-release-features/ 01:44 <+NinjaStyle> <1500 =/ 01:44 <+NinjaStyle> CheckYourSix: ^ 01:44 <+CheckYourSix> Owed or refund? 01:44 <+NinjaStyle> owed 01:44 <+CheckYourSix> Ouch. Not too bad overall 01:44 < MikeSpears> niceee you can add ppas now and not have to run apt update 01:45 <+NinjaStyle> actualy getting about 200 back from state so i think itll ed up near 1200 01:45 < mkillebrew> I'm always hesitant to do in-place upgrades, but allegedly ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04 at work have been successful 01:45 * MikeSpears is glad he only has to pay federal income 01:45 < czarbomba> ^^^ 01:45 < mkillebrew> I sometimes gets flashbacks of BSD 'build world' gone wrong 01:45 <+CheckYourSix> NinjaStyle: I'll get a refund. Somewhere between $3k and $5k between federal and state. 01:45 < MikeSpears> Florida ftw 01:45 <+NinjaStyle> thats awesome 01:45 <+CheckYourSix> I pay several thousand per year in state income tax. I wish I dodn't have to pay it 01:46 <+NinjaStyle> i think i will get one next year now that i am withholding at a single rate 01:46 <@cryptic1> dodn't? 01:46 <+CheckYourSix> I'd have so much extra money per month 01:46 < MikeSpears> CheckYourSix: move to Florida 01:46 <+NinjaStyle> or tx 01:46 < MikeSpears> or some other state with no state income tax 01:46 <+CheckYourSix> MikeSpears: Fuck no. I don't like heat. Florida will kill me. 01:46 < mkillebrew> or Texas 01:46 < MikeSpears> bitch 01:46 < mkillebrew> fewer things lurking in the water that will eat you 01:46 < MikeSpears> you'll get used to it 01:47 <+CheckYourSix> Besides, if I was going to a southern state, Texas would be it 01:47 < MikeSpears> millebrew: I've lived here most of my life, only seen one alligator 01:47 < mkillebrew> far fewer hurricanes 01:47 < MikeSpears> lol 01:47 <+NinjaStyle> i would live in tx, its way affordable there 01:47 < MikeSpears> there's hardly any hurricanes in FL 01:47 < czarbomba> no danger from alligators any more. the invasive pythons are at war with them 01:47 <+CheckYourSix> MikeSpears: No, I won't. I lived in VA for 4 years and never got remotely used to the heat/humidity. Hell, I can barely tolerate the NJ summers and I've been here for a total of 14 years... I need to live in a Canadian border state. Or in Colorado at a higher elevation with no humidity 01:47 < mkillebrew> and we have open carry 01:47 < MikeSpears> never seen a python either 01:47 < czarbomba> you'll be fine as long as you avoid the brown recluse spiders 01:48 < mkillebrew> get your shit together Florida, like one of the four states that lacks it 01:48 <@killdash9> sorry, Texas is full 01:48 <+CheckYourSix> No, just Austin is full. All the Californians are moving there 01:49 < mkillebrew> actually I think it's mostly people from Dallas 01:49 < mkillebrew> but it does have that Californian vib 01:49 < mkillebrew> *vibe 01:49 <+CheckYourSix> If I could take Texas and put it in the Rocky mountains, I'd move there in a heartbeat. 01:50 < ned0> CheckYourSix move to WA 01:50 <+CheckYourSix> I like snow and snowboarding a little too much to commit fully to a southern state 01:50 < ned0> eastern WA 01:50 <+CheckYourSix> No jobs 01:50 < ned0> if you want more texas things 01:50 < ned0> but seattle if you want jobs 01:50 < ned0> lol 01:50 < mkillebrew> work remote, live anywhere with internet 01:50 <+CheckYourSix> mkillebrew: +++ 01:51 < mkillebrew> 100% remote has been a requirement of mine for years now 01:51 < MikeSpears> lol 01:51 <+CheckYourSix> Denver is about the best compromise for work vs. outdoor things I like to do vs. weather vs. everything else 01:51 <+CheckYourSix> mkillebrew: Eventually I plan to get to that point 01:51 < mkillebrew> stop waiting, build the infrastructure necessary for it, save your company lots of money on real estate and office overhead 01:52 <+CheckYourSix> I might move to Vermont if that happens. Snow all winter long. Summers that aren't miserably hot 01:52 <+NinjaStyle> killdash9: there is no one in tx what are you talkinig about 01:52 <+NinjaStyle> pop density there is hella low 01:52 < ned0> salaries in denver suck though 01:52 < mkillebrew> except for Dallas, San Antonio, and Houston 01:53 <+NinjaStyle> :( 01:53 < ned0> housing has exploded and salaries have not 01:53 <+NinjaStyle> i was just in houston 01:53 <+NinjaStyle> super sprawl there 01:53 <+NinjaStyle> ned0: are you in denver? 01:53 < mkillebrew> Texas has 3 of the 10 largest metros in the US 01:53 < ned0> close to it NinjaStyle 01:53 <+NinjaStyle> mkillebrew: doesnt mean that it dense 01:53 <+NinjaStyle> it is* 01:53 < mkillebrew> bits of it are 01:53 <+NinjaStyle> ned0: cool me too 01:53 < ned0> have you been over to denhac? 01:53 <+NinjaStyle> i have 01:54 <+NinjaStyle> only twice tho 01:54 < ned0> cool/not cool? 01:54 <+NinjaStyle> for me, meh 01:54 < ned0> any recs for better meetup/hangout places? 01:54 <+NinjaStyle> i havent found anything, i wanna check out denver citysec soon 01:55 <+NinjaStyle> i know that ThatOneRoadie goes to denhack 01:55 <+NinjaStyle> if you wanna ask him things 01:55 < ned0> there's a PWL in Denver but I haven't made it down to one yet and am not sure how many people go https://www.meetup.com/Papers-We-Love-Denver/ 01:56 <+NinjaStyle> ned0: ah interesting 01:57 <+NinjaStyle> ned0: what part of town are you in? 01:57 < ned0> I'm up in Boulder 01:58 <+NinjaStyle> ah i know there are few up there as well 01:58 <+NinjaStyle> also citysec meets around weminster a lot 01:58 <+NinjaStyle> westminster* 01:58 < ned0> i just want the hangout club from Hackers 01:58 < ned0> rollerblade in the front door and down the ramp to the snack bar 01:59 < ned0> videogames, music playing 01:59 < ned0> maybe once a week they have waffle fries instead of normal fries 01:59 <+NinjaStyle> you might like denhack then, its a pretty young crowd 02:00 <+NinjaStyle> ned0: will you be denver b-sides? 02:00 <+NinjaStyle> be at* 02:00 <+NinjaStyle> its may 11 02:01 < ned0> are most of them presentations or activities? 02:02 < mkillebrew> rollerblades are for nerds 02:02 <+NinjaStyle> ned0: b-sides? 02:02 < mkillebrew> security conf 02:03 <+NinjaStyle> ned0: its a conference, last year there were 2 tracks for talks, a few events in the min area for prizes and stuff, then there were a few villages like lock picking, iot hacking, etc 02:03 <+NinjaStyle> s/min/main 02:03 <+layer-eight> NinjaStyle meant: "ned0: its a conference, last year there were 2 tracks for talks, a few events in the main area for prizes and stuff, then there were a few villages like lock picking, iot hacking, etc" 02:03 < ned0> i've seen it mentioned but haven't been 02:03 < mkillebrew> the "not cool enough for blackhat" conference 02:03 < ned0> i'll be there but i'll leave the rollerblades at home 02:03 < ned0> since they are for nerds 02:03 <+NinjaStyle> lol 02:04 <+NinjaStyle> we are usually a sponsor so we will pay for an open bar at some point too 02:04 < mkillebrew> I need to up my pick game thugh, I still fucking suck at dimple locks 02:04 <+NinjaStyle> there are also a few vendors there that give out swag 02:04 < ned0> your company NinjaStyle? 02:04 <+NinjaStyle> yeah 02:04 < mkillebrew> have dimple tools and made my own, but I can't fucking get them 02:05 < mkillebrew> maybe I shouldn't have started with an abus dimple 02:05 <+NinjaStyle> mkillebrew: i'm not very good at lock picking either, most people at the lock pick village are worse than me though 02:05 <+NinjaStyle> probably not 02:05 < mkillebrew> ordinary locks I'm great with 02:05 <+NinjaStyle> even with security pins? 02:05 < mkillebrew> abus 7-pin security and all 02:05 <+NinjaStyle> like spool pins fuck me up 02:05 < mkillebrew> I have boxes of them 02:05 < mkillebrew> nah, spools are easy 02:06 * ned0 scribbles a note "NinjaStyle works for Tito's Vodka" 02:06 <+NinjaStyle> lol i might as well 02:06 < mkillebrew> you get such a huge false set from them 02:06 < ned0> this is why I'm afraid of b-sides 02:06 < mkillebrew> serrated I think are harder, the false set vs actual is a smaller margin 02:06 < ned0> i'm terrible at everything but I do enjoy presentations 02:06 <+NinjaStyle> ned0: dont worry, b-sides is for people like you 02:07 < mkillebrew> serrates spools are just crunchy spools with a big false set 02:07 <+NinjaStyle> if youre a security beginner 02:08 <+NinjaStyle> mkillebrew: at a certain point, being good at lock picking is a parlor trick 02:08 <+NinjaStyle> like 95% of the time you can bypass the lock anyway 02:08 < mkillebrew> oh of course, houses are covered in windows, with rocks nearby 02:09 < ned0> unlocked windows half the time 02:09 <+NinjaStyle> and most locks just have normal shitty pins 02:09 < mkillebrew> but that's hardly the point. I could just buy a print of a picture, or I could put the jigsaw puzzle together 02:09 <+NinjaStyle> mkillebrew: i guess it matters why you are lock picking, if its for the puzzle aspect, sure i get that 02:10 < ned0> i thought most people did it for the girls 02:10 <+NinjaStyle> but if it is for breaking in to a building, then there are massive diminishing returns 02:10 < mkillebrew> I somewhat recently got a Medeco with the pins that have to be turned to unlock the sidebar, that one's fun 02:10 < mkillebrew> Medeco Biaxial I think? 02:11 <+NinjaStyle> oh with the angled pins? 02:11 < mkillebrew> and there's also the Everest, not as hard... bought tools for tubular, which are easy 02:11 < mkillebrew> yeah, I dig medeco 02:11 < ned0> NinjaStyle can i send you a PM real quick? 02:11 <+NinjaStyle> sure 02:12 < ned0> top secret things, very important 02:12 < mkillebrew> a 5-pin otherwise conventional, but angle of cuts in the key to unlock the sidebar 02:12 < mkillebrew> you pretty much just pick it twice, and no special tools. just a short hook or whatever 02:13 < mkillebrew> Ace II tubular lock was disappointing. With the correct tool you pretty much just press and wiggle, then tighten the collar once you have it 02:13 < mkillebrew> does it does have security pins, or mine does at least 02:13 < mkillebrew> *and it does 02:13 <+NinjaStyle> i have a 7 pin tubular pick and yeah that shit is silly ez 02:14 < mkillebrew> Abus and American 7-pins are, I think, the most fun. Fairly challenging keyways and all security pins except for one hardened steel for drill protection 02:16 < mkillebrew> I wish there were more people in Austin to trade locks with without going downtown to the meetup at spiderhouse 02:16 <+NinjaStyle> i need to get my picks back in my backpack so i have something to fuck with when i am waiting on stuff at work 02:16 <+NinjaStyle> we have like 50 locks floating around our office 02:16 <+NinjaStyle> people go to asia and buy locks a lot 02:17 <+NinjaStyle> also just like ace hardware padlocks and shit 02:17 < mkillebrew> I have a few neat but shitty Chinese tubular locks thar pop quickly 02:17 < mkillebrew> not tubular... what are they called 02:17 < mkillebrew> disc detainer 02:17 <+NinjaStyle> wafer? 02:17 <+NinjaStyle> they seem to sell a lot of german locks pretty cheap in asia 02:18 < mkillebrew> I got some of my higher security locks on ebay, but got bored eventually 02:20 < mkillebrew> could use some more medecos 02:22 < mkillebrew> ooh, I have a mul-t-lock dimple that I also need to crack 02:22 < mkillebrew> it has a dimple inside a dimple for each pin, which is clever. If I only didn't suck at ordinary dimple 02:22 < ned0> goddamn 02:23 < ned0> this junior sys admin/analyst role wants 3 years of experience on top of a comp or info sci degree 02:23 < ned0> or you can substitute 7+ years of experience in place of a degree 02:24 < mkillebrew> job requirements are written by management, the outcome of interviews rests largely on the shoulders of the sysadmins working there 02:25 <+NinjaStyle> yeah, dont apply based on the requirements in the desc imo 02:27 < mkillebrew> if you're working with a recruiter, talk money first. If you're interviewing for a listing you saw that has a range, never discuss it until an offer is made, it's vulgar. 02:27 < mkillebrew> You cunts are always discussing your slaries, simply dreadful. 02:27 <+NinjaStyle> thats a bad way of thinking imo 02:27 < Casteil> shit.. my nexus 5x won't turn on :( 02:28 <+NinjaStyle> sharing salaries helps to keep them up 02:28 <+NinjaStyle> otherwise you got kids taking 30k to be a sysadmin and it fucks everyone with that title 02:29 < Casteil> or they can do market research. 02:29 < mkillebrew> It just displays a complete lack of decorum to air it publicly. 02:29 < Casteil> I agree with mkillebrew 02:29 <+NinjaStyle> nah 02:29 < Casteil> there was someone who posted on reddit a while back a really great response to the "what is your previous salary?" question 02:29 < Casteil> I can't remember exactly what it was but it was some question with a question ninja shit 02:30 <+NinjaStyle> you never say your current salary if you can help it 02:30 < mkillebrew> you motherfuckers need more Emily Post in your life. 02:30 <+NinjaStyle> with a recruiter 02:30 <+NinjaStyle> but sharing it with peers helps everyone 02:30 <+NinjaStyle> imo 02:30 < Casteil> gah 02:32 < Casteil> I was really not planning on buying a new phone right now :\ 02:32 < mkillebrew> but you just dropped yours? 02:32 < Casteil> at least the Moto X4 isn't super expensive 02:33 < Casteil> mkillebrew: no, suddenly wouldn't turn on this evening :( 02:34 < Casteil> moto x4 is only $249 and you can finance w/ google for 0% apr too so that's nice 02:34 < Casteil> I was actually considering upgrading a few months ago when it was like $350 too hehe 02:36 < silentfury> Casteil: look at the new nokia's 02:37 < Casteil> I'm on google fi. 02:37 < silentfury> ah 02:38 < Casteil> so even with a new phone @ ~$10/mo I'll still only pay like $35/mo for cell haha 02:39 < Casteil> "Bootloop time bomb just means new free phone though, they've already given me a free replacement outside of the warranty period 02:39 < Casteil> " 02:39 < Casteil> huh, was ist this bootloop timebomb.. 02:40 < enix> goddamn 02:40 < enix> my phone bills like $300/month 02:40 <+CheckYourSix> Casteil: There's some responses in this article - https://www.kalzumeus.com/2012/01/23/salary-negotiation/ 02:40 < enix> iphone x + ipad + 120GB of data 02:40 <+CheckYourSix> enix: Fuck that 02:40 < ned0> holy junk 02:41 < Casteil> 98% of my life I'm attached to a wifi 02:41 < ned0> i have an iphone 5s that is kicking the bucket but all of the new phones are so expensive 02:41 < Casteil> I use all of like 400MB/mo data 02:41 < Casteil> CheckYourSix: actually, that might very well be the same article I'm thinking of.. 02:41 <+CheckYourSix> I've posted it in here like 200 times 02:42 < enix> Yeah it's mental. Unfortunately my 6S I got for free from my last employer conked it so I got an iPhone X (figuring it will last me a very long time, which is probably wont) 02:42 < enix> Then I needed an iPad for work so I could do my oncall stuff and still go out without lugging around a laptop 02:42 < enix> Then I kept going over my data limits on my phone so I got a $70/month 120GB 4G plan 02:43 <+CheckYourSix> You 02:43 * DrGibby| farts on enix 02:43 <+CheckYourSix> You're AUS right? 02:43 < enix> yeah 02:43 <+CheckYourSix> Ah. Unlimited data/talk/text for 1 phone and tablet would be like $90/mo here 02:43 <+CheckYourSix> Your prices are insane 02:44 < enix> ouch.. 02:44 < enix> Where do you live 02:44 <+CheckYourSix> USA 02:44 < enix> Yeah which state 02:44 <+CheckYourSix> NJ 02:44 < enix> ew 02:44 < enix> why not ny 02:44 <+CheckYourSix> Aka The Communist State of New Germany 02:44 <+CheckYourSix> Who would want to live in that shit hole? Even worse than NJ 02:44 < enix> jokes I just watched too much himym 02:45 < enix> CheckYourSix: we actually have an office in White Plains and somewhere in Nebraska so I'm actually tempted to move over 02:45 <+CheckYourSix> It would be a huge change from AUS to USA. That's for sure. White Plains is expensive. Nebraska would be dirt cheap 02:46 < enix> My partners not keen on the idea, but I'd love to move to Nebraska. Only issue with that is it's like six hours from Omaha so BL2ME meeting anyone <60 02:46 < czarbomba> anyone here planning to win a holdem tourney with 10 high 02:46 <+CheckYourSix> Ha. Yeah, you'd be in the middle of tornado country with nothing around but corn fields... 02:47 < enix> CheckYourSix: better than Queensland; middle of cyclone country with nothing but sugar cane. At least you wouldn't get flooded out from rising tides 02:47 * Fongy888 waves 02:47 <+CheckYourSix> Moving half way around the world is a huge move though. You'd have to be sure you want to do it 02:47 <+CheckYourSix> Also, how's the internet in that Nebraska town? 02:48 <+NinjaStyle> eeee nebraska 02:48 <+NinjaStyle> very plainsy out there 02:49 <+CheckYourSix> Nebraska is also super flat 02:49 < DrGibby|> nebraska is really boring 02:50 <+CheckYourSix> About as boring as the Dakotas... 02:50 < DrGibby|> and Kansas 02:50 < DrGibby|> and Iowa 02:55 < enix> CheckYourSix: tip top according to our devs 02:55 < enix> tbh I've been looking around and I quite like Texas 02:55 <+CheckYourSix> Well, almost all US internet will blow away your AUS internet 02:55 < enix> 100% 02:56 < enix> But my partner couldn't move around the world unfortunately :( 02:56 <+CheckYourSix> You won't know what to do with yourself if you manage to get something like 200/35 or better 02:56 <+CheckYourSix> Why? 02:56 < enix> She's maltese so very family-focussed 02:56 <+CheckYourSix> Ah 02:56 < enix> I've convinced her to move interstate (not that we really have a choice if we want to raise a family) but that's only because she has family where we're looking to move 02:57 < Fongy888> @enix - where you headed? 02:57 < Fongy888> qld? 02:57 < enix> I didn't notice how strong that family focus was until she started sending me properties down the road from her family, despite the fact it's a 2 hour commute to work 02:57 < enix> Fongy888: yeah we're looking around sunshine coast area if we can find work 02:57 < Fongy888> ^^ ex wife was maltese. it can be very much a strain on any relationship 02:58 <+CheckYourSix> Damn, fuck a 2 hour commute 02:58 < enix> If not, North Lakes has been sprouting up like fucking crazy and is about an hour drive in traffic I would say 02:58 < enix> Mind you it's queensland, so your commute options are drive or ride, no public transport really 02:58 < enix> not like sydney 02:58 < Fongy888> yeah thats not ideal 02:58 < enix> My missus is actually pretty good ay she wouldn't have lasted this long if she wasn't. Biggest test will be money I reckon 02:59 < Fongy888> yeah - hearing you 02:59 < Fongy888> any options for remote working etc? 02:59 < Fongy888> sunshine coast is ok - fucking expensive up there though 03:00 < enix> Sooooo hard finding someone to do it. You'd think a multi national conglomorate would A) care about retaining internal knowledge, B) have someone living closer to regional stations and C) offer telecommute alternatives but no, I have to drive an hour into work if I forget to divert the phones 03:00 < Fongy888> what. 03:00 < enix> Now I'm losing my license, if I forget to divert the phones when I leave for the night I have to take a two hour train ride back to the office because the direct bus service only operates between 6am and 7pm 03:00 < Fongy888> do you not have the technology to switch a divert on? 03:00 < Fongy888> surely. 03:00 < enix> Fongy888: we don't have access to it 03:00 < Fongy888> wow 03:00 < Fongy888> kill it with fire. 03:00 < enix> us lowly support techs. Fucking over how poorly managed we are 03:01 < Fongy888> resume time bro 03:01 < enix> Fongy888: australia zoo has an open position for a linux sysadmin :) 03:01 < Fongy888> do it 03:01 < enix> do it and make my girlfriend drive me to work every day hahaha 03:01 < enix> six months no license :( 03:02 <+CheckYourSix> enix: Why? 03:03 < enix> CheckYourSix: Went into the break-down lane to avoid running up the back of a van who slammed his breaks. I decided it would be safer to be slightly out of my lane while moving with traffic, got fined with "not stay within lane" and "not display P-plates", four demerit points later, good behaviour bond broken 03:03 < Fongy888> well i mean 03:03 < Fongy888> thats not gone well 03:03 < enix> P-plates are little plates we put on our vehicles when we have what's essentially a learners license 03:03 < enix> Fongy888: Nah was so frustrating 03:04 <+CheckYourSix> Jesus fuck. People do that 100000000 times per day in the US... No way you'd lose your license over that 03:04 < enix> CheckYourSix: welcome to australia 03:04 <+CheckYourSix> I've never even seen someone get a ticket for that 03:04 <+CheckYourSix> Hell, in NJ, we pass on the right even though it's illegal 03:04 < enix> CheckYourSix: we have a department in our police system called 'highway patrol' which are basically road-rule enforcers, not just highways. They are despised by everyone; including other police 03:05 < Fongy888> otherwise known as rentacops 03:05 <+CheckYourSix> Do you Aussies at least drive on the right side of the road? Or are you backwards like Britain? 03:05 < enix> If a normal cop saw that they wouldn't even bat and eye, but for highway patrol I might as well have raped a baby man 03:05 < enix> We drive on the correct side 03:05 < enix> The way all cars except for America's have been designed for 03:06 <+CheckYourSix> You backwards left lane drivers. That would probably be a big confusing switching to American roads. At least for a week or 2 03:07 < enix> CheckYourSix: I'd be fine. I'm a born street racer, I've driven on your side of the road plenty :p 03:07 <+CheckYourSix> Haha 03:07 <+CheckYourSix> Houston has a big street racing scene 03:07 < enix> :O 03:07 < enix> I'm moving there 03:07 <+CheckYourSix> Get caught though and you're kinda fucked... 03:08 < enix> CheckYourSix: I've never been caught racing 03:08 < enix> ;) 03:08 < enix> I actually out-ran highway patrol on a 125cc motorcycle. Fucking hell they're lame here 03:08 < voidstar> s/racing/racing by the us police 03:08 <+layer-eight> enix meant: "CheckYourSix: I've never been caught racing by the us police" 03:09 <+CheckYourSix> Lots of places here have no pursuit policies for motorcycles 03:09 <+CheckYourSix> But there are still a bunch that will chase 03:11 <+CheckYourSix> enix: Run and get caught here, you get a felony 03:11 < L3gacy> Oh hai peeps 03:12 < enix> CheckYourSix: run and get caught here, you get put in jail 03:12 < enix> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skye%27s_Law 03:13 < L3gacy> wassup? 03:13 <+CheckYourSix> Pretty much like it is here. You wouldn't serve jail time quite as long though 03:13 < DrGibby|> CAN IT NOT SNOW FOR FUCKING ONCE JESUS FUCKING CHRIST 03:13 < enix> LOl 03:13 <+CheckYourSix> DrGibby|: Send it here! 03:13 < czarbomba> so many snowflakes :( 03:14 < DrGibby|> CheckYourSix: NOOOOOOO 03:14 < DrGibby|> IT JUST NEEDS TO FUCKING RAIN 03:14 < DrGibby|> AND BE WARM 03:14 < L3gacy> DrGibby|, no. It must snow. The everlasting winter comes, and not from elsewhere, but elsewhen. It is ordained by the holy book of Frigidos the Unrelenting 03:14 <+CheckYourSix> Fuck your rain 03:14 * DrGibby| screams 03:14 < L3gacy> So... who here plays WoW? :D 03:15 <+CheckYourSix> What I want is a high of 20 degrees all winter so when it snows it sticks immediately. And I want a LOT. OF. FUCKING. SNOW. 03:15 < DrGibby|> Gencade does 03:15 < mkillebrew> all the nerds do 03:15 < DrGibby|> thats not true 03:15 < pocketprotector> let it snow 03:15 < L3gacy> I love this new dell. Just wish DDR4 16GB sticks didnt cost me the souls of the unborn to purchase 03:16 < ned0> CheckYourSix we just got 2ft this weekend 03:16 < L3gacy> Yes, I said I love Dell :P 03:16 < ned0> in the mountains 03:17 < L3gacy> HP? They can get ass raped in a fire in the 9th pit of hell, for all I care. And their engineers that designed their friggin laptops can suck on a cactus for eternity 03:17 < ned0> 64deg down here in town today and people were up in the mountains skiing on 12inches fresh on top of 12 from yesterday 03:17 < Gencade> what DrGibby| 03:17 < L3gacy> I had to swap a keyboard on a DV6 6170... 03:17 <+CheckYourSix> ned0: CO? 03:18 < enix> people still play wow? 03:18 < DrGibby|> Gencade: you play WOW 03:18 < L3gacy> Now, VMWare, or Virtualbox? 03:18 < Gencade> yeah I do, its fun DrGibby| 03:18 < L3gacy> I preordered Battle for Azeroth 03:18 < DrGibby|> mkillebrew was asking Gencade? 03:18 < L3gacy> I need a tshirt with a Nelf female dancin on a mailbox, and it has to say "Moonguard Pride" 03:19 < Gencade> WoW is amazing 03:20 < ned0> CheckYourSix yeah 03:20 <+CheckYourSix> Lucky bastards 03:21 < ned0> and they were all skiing with a world class microbrew in one hand and a joint in the other 03:21 < L3gacy> Gencade, new rig has me WoWing on setting 10 @ 60FPS 03:21 <+CheckYourSix> Never smoked weed. I do like beer though 03:22 < ned0> yeah, I am a beer guy too 03:22 < ned0> or wine 03:22 < czarbomba> the devil's cabbage will make you do crazy things. have you ever seen the documentary "reefer madness"? 03:22 <+CheckYourSix> Don't care for wine 03:24 <+CheckYourSix> Eventually when DDR4 prices drop, I'll add more RAM to my NAS 03:24 < The_Dv8or> brb, switching puters 03:25 < The_Dv8or> re-sup 03:25 < DrGibby|> k 03:26 <+CheckYourSix> Anyone using Jackett in conjunction with Sonarr/Radarr/Etc? 03:27 < nohusuro> CheckYourSix: yis 03:27 <+CheckYourSix> nohusuro: PM? 03:28 < The_Dv8or> theyre gonna cyber 03:28 < enix> woooowwwww 03:28 < enix> haven't heard of that in yonks 03:33 < Gencade> L3gacy, you any good at WoW? 03:33 < L3gacy> 1.8mil peak DPS on my shadow priestie :D 03:33 < Gencade> What's your chars name 03:33 < enix> goddamn 03:33 < enix> what servers you guys on 03:33 < L3gacy> Slackmassah on Moon Guard 03:33 < enix> or does that no longer matter 03:33 < Gencade> Illidan 03:33 < Gencade> I'm Genyte - Illidan 03:34 < L3gacy> L3gacy#11220 03:34 < enix> woooooowwwww cryptic1 look at this discord faggot 03:34 < L3gacy> that's my btag 03:34 < enix> nvm. 03:35 < DrGibby|> kek 03:35 < L3gacy> top kek 03:35 < DrGibby|> toppest of kekest 03:36 < L3gacy> top topppest kek of kekest things 03:36 < L3gacy> :P 03:36 < zbk> Hello 03:36 < L3gacy> heya, zbk 03:36 < L3gacy> Good bacon unto you 03:41 < DrGibby|> delicious meat candy 03:42 < zbk> hello me doods 03:43 <@cryptic1> enix, ? 03:43 < enix> dw 03:50 < DrGibby|> cryptic1: hi 03:50 < DrGibby|> also 03:50 < DrGibby|> FUCK THIS FUCKING SNOW 03:50 < sideup66> so CheckYourSix i decided its time toget a bigboy card 03:50 < sideup66> looking at chase freedom 03:50 <+CheckYourSix> I have the Freedom 03:51 <+CheckYourSix> I like it 03:53 < sideup66> yeah im confused on the chase site though 03:53 < sideup66> because it has the cash back 03:53 < sideup66> but what about rewards points 03:53 < sideup66> site says nothing about that 03:56 <+CheckYourSix> Uhh all of the chase cards do rewards points. At least as far as I know 03:56 <@cryptic1> DrGibby|, yes fuck snow 03:56 <@cryptic1> i hate it 03:57 <@cryptic1> stupid cold as hell weather in april 03:57 < DrGibby|> ME TOO :( 03:57 < sideup66> im thinking of going for this: https://creditcards.chase.com/cash-back-credit-cards/chase-freedom-unlimited?iCELL=61FY&IP3H=FH24R8 03:58 < sideup66> itll be nice to move on from the card im at now, get this, little more big boy, have the big boy job, big boy car 03:58 < sideup66> time to be an adult 03:58 < nohusuro> why do people hate snow :( 03:58 < nohusuro> snow is fun times 03:58 <+CheckYourSix> I have the regular Freedom cause I've had it for several years. Back when they had the old 10+10 program too 03:58 <+CheckYourSix> nohusuro: ++++ 03:59 <+CheckYourSix> DrGibby|: cryptic1: Move to Florida then. Join czarbomba and MikeSpears in the miserable heat. 03:59 < sideup66> CheckYourSix: yeah my sister had the regular freedom 03:59 < sideup66> im just confused on points 03:59 < sideup66> if they still do that or just cashback now and the freedom unlimited is 1.5 on everything 03:59 <+CheckYourSix> [Sigyn] Your actions in #reddit-sysadmin tripped automated anti-spam measures (nicks/hilight spam), but were ignored based on your time in channel; stop now, or automated action will still be taken. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact a member of staff 03:59 < sideup66> vs the categories regular freedom has 03:59 < sideup66> wut 03:59 <+CheckYourSix> I just got that notice cause I tagged 4 people in a message 03:59 < sideup66> nope 04:00 < DrGibby|> SILICON VALLEY TIME LADS 04:00 <@JollyRgrs> CheckYourSix: that's a freenode bot 04:00 < nohusuro> any WA aussies in here? 04:00 <+CheckYourSix> sideup66: I think by cash back they just mean points 04:00 <@JollyRgrs> in attempt to try and cut down on spam 04:00 <+CheckYourSix> JollyRgrs: I figured 04:00 < sideup66> yeah im reading into it 04:00 <+CheckYourSix> JollyRgrs: Did you see my message to cryptic1 that triggered it? 04:00 < sideup66> im thinking that 04:00 < DrGibby|> Sigyn is a cunt 04:01 <@JollyRgrs> CheckYourSix: i did now 04:01 < DrGibby|> CheckYourSix: I'm thinking more like hawaii tbh 04:01 <+CheckYourSix> DrGibby|: That's probably much nicer than Florida. $$$$ though 04:01 <@cryptic1> hah Sigyn protects all 04:01 <@JollyRgrs> yeah, very unusual to tag 4 ppl in a msg... just don't get that warning and go sending the same thing right back again... then you'd be good 04:01 < DrGibby|> CheckYourSix: worth it tho 04:01 <@JollyRgrs> CheckYourSix: not always a nice thing 04:02 <+CheckYourSix> DrGibby|: I want to visit Hawaii some day. I've never been 04:02 <@JollyRgrs> hawaii also means if you wanna vacation ANYWHERE other than hawaii, it's a very expensive trip 04:02 < DrGibby|> I fell in love with it 04:02 <@JollyRgrs> i went to hawaii when i was 5 04:02 <@JollyRgrs> dole pineapple factory (fresh samples off the belt... pineapple juice in water fountains) 04:02 <@JollyRgrs> polynesian cultural center was cool, too... i heard that's no more though :( 04:02 < sideup66> yeah CheckYourSix okay so you can cash in anytime, anywhere, and use them on amazon or travel and hotel (perfect, ive been wanting to travel more) 04:03 < sideup66> right now i can redeem cash only in 25 dollar incriments 04:03 < sideup66> kinda lame 04:03 < sideup66> but it was something for a first cc 04:03 <+CheckYourSix> sideup66: I just keep stockpiling all of my points. I have the Freedom, Sapphire Preferred, and the Ink. I merge all the points 04:03 <+CheckYourSix> What card do you have now? 04:03 < sideup66> citizens bank cash back plus 04:05 <+CheckYourSix> I have like 285k points with Chase. Don't even know what to do with them. Waiting to use them for travel once I have a girlfriend worth traveling with 04:08 < sideup66> thats the plan CheckYourSix im going to let it rack up travel points 04:09 < sideup66> and hopefully use them for stuff like that 04:11 < sideup66> CheckYourSix: my plan to rack it up is to use it on monthly bills 04:11 < sideup66> then just pay it off 04:11 < sideup66> easy way to make a rewards card rack up 04:12 <+CheckYourSix> I use my cards for everything except REnt 04:12 <+NinjaStyle> same 04:12 <+CheckYourSix> But, YNAB makes it easy and keeps you from over spending 04:15 <+NinjaStyle> i like getting to use my card for work related stuff too and get free points 04:16 <+CheckYourSix> That would be awesome if I could do that. 04:16 <+CheckYourSix> They give us company cards though 04:16 < xe0n> i have 90 boost juice points, i can get 9 free drinks :D 04:17 <+NinjaStyle> get dat juice 04:21 <@Nostalg14c> Morning. 04:22 < Gencade> mornin Nostalg14c 04:22 < enix> Oh noez 04:22 <+NinjaStyle> CheckYourSix: is that close to 3k? 04:22 < enix> Not Nostalg14c 04:23 < enix> whats ynab 04:23 <+NinjaStyle> you need a butt 04:23 < enix> Ergh sorry 04:23 < enix> I should word it better 04:24 < enix> Does YNAB do auto payment scheduling and shit or is it like pocketbook where I just get emails every day telling me I've over spent and a poorly designed pie chart showing what i waste money on 04:25 < sideup66> welp 04:25 < sideup66> already approved CheckYourSix , i guess my credit doesnt suck 04:25 < sideup66> gonna miss with citizens though, could always see my fico score 04:28 <+CheckYourSix> NinjaStyle: Yeah. A penny per dollar. It's worth a lot more if you transfer it to the right partner programs for flights/hotels and use it for bonus stuff 04:28 <+CheckYourSix> sideup66: What limit did they give you? 04:30 <+CheckYourSix> Typically anything over $5k automatically gives you a Visa Signature card 04:34 <+NinjaStyle> CheckYourSix: i have sapphire preferred but i use my venture card instead 04:35 < sideup66> CheckYourSix: 6600 04:35 < sideup66> though i kinda want it down, just to prevent a crazy month from letting the card run away on me 04:36 <+CheckYourSix> sideup66: Good, that means it'll be a Visa Signature 04:36 <+CheckYourSix> NinjaStyle: Why 04:36 < sideup66> whats the difference 04:36 <+CheckYourSix> sideup66: Just use YNAB and let it dictate your spending 04:36 <+NinjaStyle> CheckYourSix: better points 04:36 <+CheckYourSix> https://usa.visa.com/pay-with-visa/cards/visa-credit-cards/visa-signature-credit-cards.html 04:39 < sideup66> oh wow 04:39 < sideup66> it is fancy 04:42 < sideup66> weird CheckYourSix if i look at the site, it doesnt list chase as a bank to get the card 04:42 < sideup66> on a dumb note CheckYourSix 04:42 < sideup66> is it bad if i had multiple ccs open 04:42 < sideup66> i could keep my current open but it doesnt offer much so i dont see much of a point 04:42 <+NinjaStyle> you should keep it open 04:43 <+NinjaStyle> just keep the balance at 0 04:43 <+CheckYourSix> It actually helps you to keep them open 04:43 < sideup66> why though 04:43 < `Nerobro> uh huh 04:43 <+NinjaStyle> it counts towards your average credit history 04:43 <+CheckYourSix> Length of credit history 04:43 < sideup66> because of age of accounts open? 04:43 < sideup66> oh i see 04:43 < `Nerobro> sideup66, it looks like you have more trust. Using less of your total limit looks better 04:43 <+CheckYourSix> And percent of credit utilization 04:43 < `Nerobro> so anywhere you can get "more credit" and not use it, is good 04:44 <+NinjaStyle> my chase card has over 9 years now because i was actually able to upgrade a shittier credit card to a sapphire preffered 04:45 <+NinjaStyle> without opening a new line 04:47 < enix> I'm jealous you can have a credit card 04:47 < enix> We can't get one because it would diminish the amount we can borrow from the bank for our mortage. It's seen as potential debt :( 04:48 <+NinjaStyle> we only consider balances as debt 04:48 < enix> Lucky! 04:49 < enix> I wanted a small $4000 credit card to consolidate bills, then my mortgage broker warned me against it :( 04:49 <+NinjaStyle> weird 04:49 <+NinjaStyle> that sucks =/ 04:50 <+NinjaStyle> the interest rates here are terrible though, so carry debt or consolidating debt to a credit card is a bad idea usually 04:51 <+CheckYourSix> enix: I've heard the same dumb shit about potential debt in the US too. It's all a load of crap 04:51 < enix> no interest free period? Our rates are like 20% but if you pay off a purchase in 30 days there's no interest 04:51 <+NinjaStyle> enix: yeah thats the same 04:54 < enix> yeah potential debt is stupid 04:54 < enix> but it makes a big difference here where our mortgage can be like 70% of our income 04:54 < enix> or more 04:54 <+NinjaStyle> holy shit 04:54 <+NinjaStyle> that is crazy 04:55 < enix> Yeah it's shit. Hence looking to move 04:55 < enix> I was hoping my current employer would support it but noooope 04:55 <+CheckYourSix> 70% of your income?!?! What kind of insane crack are they smoking? 04:55 < enix> worst part is our regionals have been hit as well. So $900,000 for a rather large property up north, but it's a three hour daily commute to work. 04:56 <+CheckYourSix> I hope your salaries are somewhat consistent with the cost of living. Your housing prices are insane 04:57 < Sousapro> your salary is... about tree-fiddy 04:58 < enix> So moving 70 miles out of "town", you're looking at about $600,000 for a quaint house with a land size large enough to raise a family 04:58 < enix> But that's a 2.5 hour commute 04:58 < enix> https://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-nsw-katoomba-128061762 04:59 < enix> Which is a walk, a bus, another walk, two different trains, a walk, another bus, then a walk 04:59 < enix> Or you can walk for 2km (half hour apparently), take two trains, then walk for another 20 minutes which is about three hours 04:59 <+NinjaStyle> damn, why is real estate so high? 04:59 < enix> Lots of people blame foreign investment 05:00 < DrGibby|> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/021/311/free.jpg 05:00 < enix> But legit, I blame Aussies perception that "property makes money" 05:01 <+NinjaStyle> i wanna buy a house in texas 05:02 < enix> combined with governments constricting urban sprawl after what happened in Western Australia. Commercial leasing is expensive and taxes are high, so small business growth is stagnant. Most small businesses are built and sold at peak I find (in my sbo circle). R&D or any kind of beneficial/relevant business venture is fucked and advisors recommend going to another country. So you don't get commercial hubs properly forming away from your three primary CBD 05:04 < enix> So you have this tiny little pocket where property is permitted which noone can move out of because there's no jobs or it's too far to get to work. Growing population means we need places to put people. They destroy nature reserves, historic buildings and parks to get more land space but it doesn't help because there's just so much demand for a place to live, it drives the price of property up, which helps fuel vendors unrealistic goals of earning 100k/ 05:04 < enix> eh tldr shits fucked. 05:04 < enix> Aussies are idiots. Immigration wasn't regulated correctly. Population growth is inconsistent with commercial growth and urban sprawl. it's jsut a shit country 05:05 < enix> fuck you got me going good work. I need to walk away for 10 minutes. 05:05 < Casteil> enix: Yeah. Australia real estate is well and truly dickered 05:05 < Casteil> my buddy and I concluded that my $190k house would cost him something to the order of 1-2 mil in sydney 05:06 < Casteil> near sydney, even 05:06 <+CheckYourSix> enix: And they say Americans are dumb lol 05:10 < enix> Casteil: Yeah 100% that would be the case. I look at american real estate and froth 05:10 < enix> I dont understand why anyone rents in America 05:10 <@Nostalg14c> Sydneys also the worst place in australia to buy. 05:11 < enix> 100% 05:11 <@Nostalg14c> americans rent because 99% of them are shit at money 05:11 <@Nostalg14c> and live paycheck to paycheck 05:11 < enix> because they're dumb right 05:11 <@Nostalg14c> yep 05:11 < nohusuro> they also don't make a lot right? 05:11 < enix> CheckYourSix: :P 05:11 < Casteil> well 05:11 < Casteil> that too 05:11 < nohusuro> and whree they live is expensive? 05:11 <+CheckYourSix> I rent because I'm not 100% sure where I want to live yet 05:11 < nohusuro> where* 05:11 <@Nostalg14c> nohusuro: very subjective 05:11 < Casteil> min wage in aus is like 2.5x US 05:11 < enix> Not to disparage the poor though I completely understand living pay check to pay check 05:11 < Casteil> and yes; buying a house is a pretty big commitment 05:12 <@Nostalg14c> Casteil: CoL is 2.5x too 05:12 < enix> Casteil: there's no other choice. If I dont earn $80,000 for a level 1 support role, I cant afford to work there. 05:12 < nohusuro> I rent because I want to mostly buy a house outright 05:12 <+CheckYourSix> I like that I can currently pack up and move across the country for a job 05:12 < enix> HA 05:12 <+NinjaStyle> nohusuro: lol wat 05:12 < enix> nohusuro: that would never happen here 05:12 < nohusuro> enix: I'm in australia 05:12 < Casteil> NinjaStyle: saving money to buy a house 05:12 < nohusuro> Perth based 05:12 < enix> What 05:12 < enix> Oh 05:12 < Casteil> I get that 05:12 < nohusuro> My partner and I could totes do that in a few years 05:12 <+NinjaStyle> saving money by throwing it away? 05:12 < enix> That makes sense 05:12 < nohusuro> At least a sizeable portion 05:12 < nohusuro> plus our rent is dirt cheap 05:13 < Casteil> ^ 05:13 < enix> You're lucky you can do that 05:13 < nohusuro> yup 05:13 < nohusuro> we've been saving for years though 05:13 < nohusuro> so it's not like we haven't worked for it 05:13 < Casteil> if you can afford to save a bunch of money with a cheap rent.. you're probably best off doing that for a few years if you can save a sizeable down payment 05:13 < enix> Yeah 100% 05:13 < Casteil> if you can put a 50% down payment on your house you're in a lot better shape equity wise than someone who only puts 5% down 05:14 < enix> nohusuro: It's a good position. we've discussed it but it's really hard on our side of the country 05:14 <+NinjaStyle> obviously 05:14 <+NinjaStyle> thats not really the point though 05:14 < nohusuro> enix: yeah, I see teh house prices over there 05:14 < nohusuro> it's stupid expensive 05:14 < enix> nohusuro: even Queensland shot up in a three month period 05:14 < nohusuro> there's some of that over here too, 1 bedroom appartments for the price of a house 05:14 < enix> We missed that boat unfortunately. $250,000 apartment by the water is now $400,00 05:14 < Casteil> enix: this one just came on the market around here; https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/273-9-Mile-Rd-NE-Comstock-Park-MI-49321/2090254647_zpid/ 05:14 < enix> but that'll be closer to your hubs 05:14 < enix> You're lucky in the sense that urban sprawl has helped with prices 05:15 < enix> unlucky that it takes so long to get to work 05:15 < Casteil> bet that shit would cost at least $600k in brislandia 05:15 < Casteil> wait, what part of aus are you from enix? 05:15 < enix> Sydney 05:15 < enix> Casteil: That house is dope. I would love something like that 05:15 < nohusuro> I was shown a house yesterday one of a pair on a block, and it was a 100 year old renovated cottage, 2 x 1. 700k....... 05:15 < nohusuro> the fuck are they thinking 05:16 <@Nostalg14c> Heritage home or something? 05:16 < Casteil> well that house I just linked is like >50 yrs old :P 05:16 < nohusuro> Nostalg14c: I mean it's old, but it wasn't even that great 05:16 < Casteil> as many of the homes available around here in that price range are 05:16 < nohusuro> or in a nice location 05:16 <+CheckYourSix> NinjaStyle: Renting isn't necessarily throwing money away. Pros and cons to it all. 05:16 < Casteil> though it does have a 2 acre lot which is nice 05:16 < Casteil> actually.. 05:16 < enix> All I want is to raise my kids the aussie way, on a 600sqm block on a simple house, with a garage for my project car and a drive way for my fourby. 05:16 <+NinjaStyle> CheckYourSix: it usually is 05:16 < enix> :( 05:16 < Casteil> that might be the first house around here that I've gotten a little jealous of 05:16 <+NinjaStyle> like 99.9% of the time 05:16 <@Nostalg14c> NinjaStyle: negative 05:17 <+CheckYourSix> NinjaStyle: No, not even close 05:17 <@Nostalg14c> 99.9% of the time you will be better off renting than buying. 05:17 <+NinjaStyle> um, no 05:17 < enix> um what 05:17 <@Nostalg14c> Go look at the origin of the word Mortgage 05:17 <@Nostalg14c> Death. Pledge. 05:17 < nohusuro> one of my friends just bought a house, got laid off 5 months later 05:17 < nohusuro> tell me renting is still better :P 05:17 < nohusuro> isn't better* 05:17 < Casteil> well 05:17 < Casteil> mortgage is basically indentured servitude 05:17 < Casteil> >.> 05:18 < nohusuro> yeah, fuck having 30 years of debt 05:18 < Casteil> < Just signed up for 30 years obligation of $1200/month 05:18 <@Nostalg14c> The first 8 years of a mortgate is purely interest repayments. Guess how long the average home owners stay for? 05:18 <@Nostalg14c> 8 years. 05:18 < enix> Renting is ONLY better under a couple of circumstances 05:18 < Virtual-Potato> Lose job, can't pay mortage, can't relocate because you have a house, can't sell off quick 05:18 <@Nostalg14c> enix: no 05:18 < Casteil> Nostalg14c> The first 8 years of a mortgate is purely interest repayments < wrong 05:18 < enix> Yes. 1. You make alternative investments and 2. your rent is lower than the cost of mortgage 05:18 < Casteil> but you're not super far off the mark 05:18 < Virtual-Potato> renting? Way easier to move around if you lose a job 05:18 < enix> We don't have to move around because of work 05:18 < enix> We're crammed into Sydney. There's no need to move 05:19 <+NinjaStyle> i lived in my house for 6 years and made over 80k sooo 05:19 <+CheckYourSix> 1) You're not responsible for repairs if anything breaks. 2) You're not paying property taxes. 3) If you aren't sure where you want to live yet, you can move and you're not locked into a place. 4) If you do it the smart way, you can save up a good amount for a down payment. 5) If you rent a tiny apartment for cheap, you're not paying the cost of a mortage, taxes, insurance, and utilities on a house that's more than you need or can 05:19 <+CheckYourSix> afford 05:20 < Casteil> i lived in my house for 6 years and made over 80k sooo < wut? 05:20 <@Nostalg14c> 5) You can live in a much better home than you could ever buy, for cheaper. 05:20 < nohusuro> we've lived in our rental for over a year, and haven't had a single rent inspection, but shit still gets fixed if we ask about it 05:20 <@Nostalg14c> 6) The money you save by not having a mortgage can be invested an earn way more than you ever could. 05:21 <@Nostalg14c> Renting is 99% better, every dick and their dog has just been brainwashed into buying a ohuse and settling down. 05:21 <+CheckYourSix> I do plan to buy a house, but I'm waiting until I know where I want to live and can afford a 20% down payment to avoid PMI 05:21 <+NinjaStyle> real estate over the past 6-10 years has been the best investment you can make... 05:21 <@Nostalg14c> NinjaStyle: very very location dependent. 05:21 <@Nostalg14c> and 05:21 <@Nostalg14c> thats not true at all. 05:21 <+NinjaStyle> lol 05:21 < enix> Nostalg14c: well.. that's very location dependent 05:22 <+NinjaStyle> im not going to argue with you guys, waste your money all you want 05:22 <@Nostalg14c> lmao 05:22 < enix> If I had purchased that $360,000 apartment in Parramatta in 2014, I would have made $340,000 ontop of my initial investment 05:22 <@Nostalg14c> the irony is insane. 05:22 <@Nostalg14c> enix: minus cap gains 05:22 < enix> It's not an argument it's a discussion 05:22 <+NinjaStyle> tell that to my bank account 05:22 <@Nostalg14c> minus all the taxes and fees and maintenance. 05:22 < Casteil> well 05:22 < Casteil> taxes are generally just lumped into your mortgage payment 05:23 < Casteil> but yeah, taxes do generally kinda suck 05:23 < Casteil> I think I pay about 1.5% of my home value per year in property tax 05:23 <+NinjaStyle> https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc701 05:23 < enix> When you rent you're responsible for your utilities and minor maintanence. You can't trash the place and say "landlord please fix". The only major issues you're fixing is if your house is built on clay or if it's old and falling apart when you took the rental. 05:23 <+CheckYourSix> Casteil: Cheap 05:23 < Casteil> 1.5% of the purchase price, that is 05:24 < enix> When you leave a rent you're responsible for leaving it in a state reasonably similar to when you initiated your occupancy 05:24 < Casteil> CheckYourSix: maybe compared to NY but it's a pretty good chunk of money every month :\ 05:24 < enix> You can literally be sued for repairs 05:24 < enix> So you're still responsible for maintanence unless you're in an apartment and there's issues outside of the walls of your box. 05:25 <+CheckYourSix> Casteil: Not saying it isn't, but compared to NJ/NY/CT and all that, it's nothing. Average house up here is $15k/year in property tax 05:25 < enix> You still have to pay for basic utilities sans water, unless you live in an apartment block where the strata lumps all eletricity usage together and divides by the number of tenants which has stopped becoming a thing with technology providing easier ways of having unit-specific metre boxes 05:25 < Casteil> average house there is probably also at least twice as expensive as well 05:25 < enix> You might have the flexibility but take it from someone who has moved around all his life and never had somewhere to call home, that fucking sucks 05:27 < Casteil> enix: I have a house and I still feel a certain lack of permanence 05:27 < enix> In the short term it might be a cheaper and easier way of living by renting a few blocks from work, but you continue that trend in your family and you're not really going to be building a stable foundation of wealth for your future generations. You might spend your whole life paying off your mortgage, but your children will get the property when you pass and they can use that welath for their own life. 05:27 < Casteil> like... do I really want to build a bunch of workbenches and shit in my basement workshop?? 05:27 < enix> I do 05:27 < Casteil> I don't know if I'm going to be here 1 year or 5 or 20 05:28 < enix> Yeah but why not 05:28 <@Nostalg14c> Life happens. 05:28 < enix> Legitimately if I purchased a 600sqm lot in Seven Hills this year, for a reasonable price, with a backyard and a shed and good neighbors, I would never consider moving. 05:28 < enix> Unless I were to buy property out at glenorie when I'm >40 05:29 < Casteil> I've definitely done my fair share of work on this place already :D 05:30 < Casteil> https://i.imgur.com/0yt7fnb.png < Kitchen when I bought it 05:30 < Casteil> https://i.imgur.com/zFNPEg8.png < Kitchen now 05:30 < enix> and legit my friends have had landlors that couldn't give a shit. 05:30 <+NinjaStyle> Casteil: looks much better 05:30 < enix> My friend lived without a window in his living room on a top floor apartment in the winter because the landlord couldn't be bothered getting a handy man to fix it 05:31 < enix> Casteil: I love how you went about that 05:31 < Casteil> still have to get a ~4" high tile backsplash in and redo the floor, but yeah.. so much better than it was lol 05:31 < Casteil> main mission was to get rid of the pink without spending a fortune 05:31 < enix> varnished the cabinets, removed the overhang and new bench top? 05:31 <+NinjaStyle> Casteil: what kind of countertops did u use? 05:31 < Casteil> didn't touch the cabinets 05:32 < Casteil> NinjaStyle: tore off the old laminate and put new laminate on 05:32 < enix> oh smart 05:32 <+NinjaStyle> oh, nice one 05:33 < enix> Couldn't do that with a rental :P 05:33 <@Nostalg14c> Fucking Azure. 05:33 <@Nostalg14c> So much for scalable cloud. 05:33 < enix> hahahaha 05:33 < enix> i hate azure more than our property market 05:34 <@Nostalg14c> Fucking limit on core count is set to 10. 05:34 < enix> .. 05:34 <@Nostalg14c> Submit support ticket to get increased. 7 days later still not done. 05:34 < enix> do you have like premium support or anything like that 05:34 <@Nostalg14c> Listed as high serverity. 05:34 < enix> like an enterprise account 05:34 <@Nostalg14c> Negative. 05:34 <@Nostalg14c> It's for a small cline.t 05:34 <@Nostalg14c> client* 05:34 < enix> that's probably why 05:35 <@Nostalg14c> They have like 05:35 <@Nostalg14c> $20k+ credit sitting in the account. 05:35 < Casteil> enix / NinjaStyle https://imgur.com/a/UxLKX project album if you give a shit :P 05:35 < enix> but then again AWS would take a max of 15 minutes to return my call for things liek that 05:35 < enix> Casteil: i do give a shit 05:35 <@Nostalg14c> AWS wouldnt limit your cores to fucking 10. 05:36 < enix> Nostalg14c: no but i think they do have limits on public IP's and shit like that 05:36 <+NinjaStyle> Casteil: nice 05:36 < enix> and how much email you can send through and shit 05:36 <@Nostalg14c> enix: sure. thats very reasonable. 05:36 <@Nostalg14c> but when you sell a service as scalable cloud. 05:36 < enix> they have limits and they are not reasonable for someone like ladbrokers or sportsbet (who were clients of ours) 05:36 <@Nostalg14c> And then limit that scale limit to 10 cores. Thats absurd. 05:37 < Casteil> I was kinda shocked at Azure pricing for a relatively simple instance 05:37 <@Nostalg14c> It's not cheap at all. 05:37 <@Nostalg14c> Far far from it. 05:38 < Casteil> Azure SQL pricing seems instane 05:38 < DrGibby|> Last week tonight with John Oliver was meh 05:39 < Casteil> I might have to look up azure sql DTU pricing though tomorrow 05:41 < enix> oh so i worked out what to do with my bot 05:41 < enix> bot client, with a processing server :) 05:42 < DrGibby|> hello nerds 05:43 * enix farts on DrGibby| 05:43 < Casteil> enix: bare basement workshop state: https://i.imgur.com/pKEjfQU.png :X 05:43 < DrGibby|> thats disgusting enix 05:44 < Casteil> I've got my drill press/jointer/planer/bandsaw/etc in the other room, thinking I might grind and seal that concrete slab so I can sweep it easily 05:44 < Casteil> before I get the shop set up in that room 05:44 < enix> That's dope! Wish we had basements here 05:44 <+NinjaStyle> Casteil: i have that same table saw, but no stand 05:44 < enix> I'd love a house with a basement for a mans cave / gaming den, then convert the attic into a place for children 05:44 < Casteil> nice 05:45 < enix> not neccersarily my children though 05:45 < enix> just any children 05:45 < Casteil> pretty glad I bought it when I did, I think I paid $425 after all the coupons I used hehe 05:45 < enix> we'll put some candy up there as a lure.. you know? 05:45 < Casteil> normally it's like $600 05:45 < Casteil> (dewalt 7491 RS) 05:45 < DrGibby|> meh 05:45 < Casteil> enix: that's dark, yo 05:45 < enix> yeah well i realized what i said and thought I'd run with it before someone else did 05:46 < DrGibby|> gimme a finished project 05:46 < DrGibby|> pref with dovetails 05:46 < Casteil> I think my next project will be tackling the master bathroom 05:47 < Casteil> dovetails are pointless 05:48 < DrGibby|> ... 05:48 < Casteil> pretty much only good for the aesthetic 05:48 < DrGibby|> using windows is pointless 05:48 < Casteil> adds tremendous time to a project 05:48 < DrGibby|> pretty much only good for the aesthetic 05:49 < enix> this is true. it doesn't even have a good package manager. 05:49 < enix> and if i'm being picky... making it harder to configure local accounts is super lame. 05:50 < Gencade> fuck you DrGibby| 05:50 < DrGibby|> fuck you too, Gencade 05:50 < Gencade> Hope you had a great weekend DrGibby| 05:50 < Casteil> https://i.imgur.com/lrVRh7X.png < Big garage all to myself too :D 05:50 < DrGibby|> I am too, m8 <3 05:51 < Casteil> well, frankly, as an american it seems like a bit of a small garage 05:51 < Casteil> but it can fit two cars 05:51 < DrGibby|> Casteil: I see a woodshop not being used... 05:51 < nohusuro> Casteil: what's with not having a license plate on the front? is that not required where you're from? 05:51 < Casteil> DrGibby|: that's in the basement 05:51 < Casteil> nohusuro: varies by state in the US 05:51 < nohusuro> what if you cross state borders? :S 05:52 < nohusuro> how is the US not uniform in its policies and regulation 05:52 < DrGibby|> nohusuro: its based on the issuing state 05:52 < Casteil> not a problem, only required to have a front plate if you live in a state that requires it 05:52 < Casteil> nohusuro: because state and federal governments are a thing 05:53 < enix> nohusuro: it's much the same as the reason why i can vape and you cannot. 05:53 < DrGibby|> but, somehow Casteil thinks a shop should be in a basement 05:53 < nohusuro> enix: I didn't think anyone was allowed to vape 05:53 < DrGibby|> just pardon ignorance 05:53 < Casteil> DrGibby|: you try working in a non climate controlled garage in a hot summer or freezing winter 05:53 < enix> That's what your government wants you tho think 05:53 < DrGibby|> Casteil: like where I do? 05:53 < Casteil> trust me - a basement that hovers around 65 year round is preferable 05:53 < nohusuro> ah enix it seems it's only illegal to use tobacco based products in vapes, "buying, possessing or using liquid nicotine in an e-cigarette is illegal across Australia" 05:53 < enix> nohusuro: NSW doesn't want to open a can of worms. QLD and WA have out-right banned it. SA recognizes it's significance in it's economy, TAS are a bunch of sick cunts 05:53 < Casteil> 65f that is 05:53 < DrGibby|> get off your high horse, Casteil 05:54 < Casteil> u jelly 05:54 < enix> nohusuro: that's nicotine, different from tobacco. Nicotine is a highly poisonous chemical in highly concentrated solutions which has dangerous fumes and can be absorbed through the skin 05:55 < enix> nohusuro: It was utilized as a pesticide prior to it's health issues being known, so they blanket-banned it's use for good reason 05:55 < nohusuro> enix: << doesn't smoke / vape, so I couldn't really care for the difference anyway, hah 05:55 < Gencade> DrGibby|, quit being a dick 05:55 < DrGibby|> <3 Gencade 05:55 < Gencade> <3 DrGibby| 05:55 < enix> nohusuro: Unfortunately fast forward thirty years and it's the addictive component to smoking, so utilizing it in a form to ween off smokers from their dependency is now frowned upon because it's "dangerous" 05:56 < enix> But only if you get like 100mg/ml and go bath in it, not if you inhale 3mg/ml or even 20mg/ml. 05:56 < enix> nohusuro: I understand, just dropping some knowledge :) 05:58 < nohusuro> enix: :) 05:58 < nohusuro> appreciate it, keeps me more informed for future discussions 06:01 < enix> Yeah it's one of those things you don't really learn much about unless you're involved in the political shit storm 06:01 < enix> I can't bring myself to vote anymore knowing that not one single person is going to represent my interests 06:33 <+NinjaStyle> DrGibby|: youre right, lwt is meh 06:34 <+NinjaStyle> actually exceptionally bad episode 06:50 <+NinjaStyle> where is everyone 06:51 < ned0> up in here, up in here 06:51 < ned0> did you watch "do you trust this computer" NinjaStyle? 06:51 < Virtual-Potato> Sleeping 06:52 <+NinjaStyle> ned0: no, whats that 06:52 < Virtual-Potato> It's something you watch, NinjaStyle 06:52 < ned0> "documentary" that just came out and elon has been trying to get everyone to watch 06:52 < ned0> it's about the dangers of superintelligent AI 06:53 < ned0> free on vimeo this weekend 06:53 < ned0> a bit fearmongery and flash but they have soundbites from some interesting people and it was interesting to watch it with my wife 06:54 <+NinjaStyle> hm 06:54 < ned0> she was totally freaked out by it as she doesn't keep up with tech at all 06:54 <+NinjaStyle> i'll have to check it out 06:54 < Virtual-Potato> ned0, does it have subtitles? 06:55 < Virtual-Potato> Nope :( 06:55 < ned0> i don't think it does 06:55 < Virtual-Potato> sad 06:55 < ned0> i wish it did though, i watch everything with subtitles 06:56 < Virtual-Potato> I have to use subtitles, so yeah 06:56 < ned0> you could watch it without them 06:56 < Virtual-Potato> Sure, and I won't understand anything that's going on 06:56 < ned0> and just imagine elon musk saying "doom doom doom" 06:56 < ned0> then entire time 06:56 < ned0> the* 07:04 < Virtual-Potato> I'll just wait until it's released with subtitles then 07:22 < Church-> Ugh it's like the fucking LessWrong crowd made it into power with all this AI fear mongering. 07:33 <+NinjaStyle> radare2 is pretty cool 07:34 < Virtual-Potato> Ugh so much I want to do 07:34 < Virtual-Potato> I tried using radare2 a while ago 07:37 < Virtual-Potato> NinjaStyle, do you know of a good utility to disassemble x86 ARM binaries for free? IDA does it but only in their paid version 07:37 <+NinjaStyle> radare2 can 07:37 <+NinjaStyle> or binary ninja 07:37 < Virtual-Potato> Guess I'll have to get back into the ol disassembling grind 07:37 <+NinjaStyle> but bn is $ too 07:38 < Virtual-Potato> I basically forgot everything about disassembly :( 07:38 <+NinjaStyle> i just wish radare2 was better at making psuedocode 07:40 < Virtual-Potato> How do you deal with it? 07:41 < Virtual-Potato> Like... I want to know everything. Disassembly/reverse engineering, SDR, pentesting, all that cool stuff 07:41 < Virtual-Potato> There's just no time for me to learn everything >_> 07:42 <+NinjaStyle> Virtual-Potato: how do you mean deal with it? 07:43 < Virtual-Potato> The constant desire to know everything 07:43 <+NinjaStyle> oh i am bad, i just stay up till like 2am reading every night 07:44 <+NinjaStyle> i wrote a small c program for the sans holiday hack challenge and i am playing with it in radare since i know exactly what it does 07:46 < Virtual-Potato> Ugh I didn't do the SANS challenge 07:46 < Virtual-Potato> totally slipped my mind 07:52 <+NinjaStyle> it was fun 07:52 <+NinjaStyle> i actually learned a few new thing 07:52 <+NinjaStyle> s 07:52 <+NinjaStyle> got to do a full XXE attack 07:53 < Virtual-Potato> Last year I did the google CTF thing... made me realize how little I know 07:53 <+NinjaStyle> that one was ahrd 07:53 <+NinjaStyle> hard* 07:53 <+NinjaStyle> we actually tried it too with some work guys, but we were drinking a lot and didnt get far 07:53 < Virtual-Potato> I wasn't able to get ANY of the flags 07:54 < Virtual-Potato> other than the first one of course 07:54 <+NinjaStyle> i think we got 1 or 2 07:54 <+NinjaStyle> one of the webapp ones was super hard 07:55 <+NinjaStyle> i think i still like binary ninja's pseudocode better than r2. thats what i have concluded 07:57 < plop> morning mates 07:57 < plop> .bofh 07:57 <+layer-eight> plop, BOFH says: Arcserve crashed the server again. 07:57 < plop> well, that might be still in use 07:57 < Virtual-Potato> good to know, NinjaStyle. I'll take a look at r2 again 07:57 < Virtual-Potato> and see if I can't figure it otu 07:57 < Virtual-Potato> out* 07:57 < Virtual-Potato> .bofh 07:57 <+layer-eight> Virtual-Potato, BOFH says: high pressure system failure 07:57 < Virtual-Potato> ^ AKA me 07:57 < plop> that damn pressure. 08:12 < Holo> FUCK WINDOWS 10 FOR HOME USE 08:12 < Holo> -.- 08:23 < ThatOneRoadie> graaaaaaaaaaaaaah 08:23 < ThatOneRoadie> fuck denver housing 08:47 < ceofreak> morning nerds 08:54 < vader-> Uhg... been trying to sleep for like 3.5 hours now 08:54 < vader-> Fucking insomnia 08:54 < [muze]> I posted this is ##windows-server, but I figured you guys might be more chatty at this hour: 08:55 < [muze]> We had a node fail, and everything vMotion'd to another host as expected. However, our Exchange box │ Alina-malina 08:55 < [muze]> │ | came up with a an error like it unexpectedly rebooted, and now we have one database that won't mount │ almostdvs 08:55 < [muze]> │ | and came back with a "transient I/O" error. The usual TechNet articles recommending eseutil to │ Alternity 08:55 < [muze]> │ | soft-repair the DB did not work 08:55 < [muze]> ...whoa, that formatted not as expected - sorry 08:56 < ceofreak> I was just about to insult you 08:56 < [muze]> is there a better way to approach fixing this other than just revert the DB and logs back to the snapshot taken early this morning (scheduled snapshot)? 08:56 < [muze]> ceofreak: I would've earned it. 09:00 < [muze]> better formatting: We had a node fail, and everything vMotion'd to another host as expected. However, our Exchange box came up with an error like it unexpectedly rebooted, and now we have one database that won't mount. It gives a "transient I/O" error. The ususal TechNet articles recommending eseutil to soft-repair the DB did not work. 09:00 < xe0n> no dag? 09:01 < [muze]> no dag 09:01 < [muze]> it's a box that's only going to last for the next 3 months anyways as we're in the middle of migrating to O365 09:02 < voidstar> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH64dlgyydM 09:02 <+layer-eight> YouTube Snatch - Dags by 2010-04-11T13:53:31.000Z (duration: 15s) on Sun Apr 11 20:53:31 UTC 2010, 2010-04-11T13:53:31.000Z views 09:02 <@Nostalg14c> Unmount the db and check the status of the shutdown w/ eseutil 09:02 <@Nostalg14c> (clean vs dirty) 09:02 < [muze]> done and done - dirty 09:03 <@Nostalg14c> so you need to clean it upp 09:03 <@Nostalg14c> if the softrepair failed, you need to hard repair. 09:03 <@Nostalg14c> Which takes a long time. 09:04 < [muze]> Nostalg14c: Ehh, I don't think we can get away with that. We have users starting their day in less than 6 hours, so I figured restoring a DB and logs from a snapshot was the best bet. 09:05 <@Nostalg14c> Ah, sure 09:05 <@Nostalg14c> Worth a crack assuming you can deal with that loss. 09:05 < [muze]> Pretty much when I read up on the hard repair, I didn't think we'd even come close to finishing it until well into tomorrow afternoon (big DB) 09:05 <@Nostalg14c> How big is big? 09:05 < [muze]> 200GB+ 09:05 <@Nostalg14c> Not that big. 09:05 <@Nostalg14c> But yeah, still gonna be slow. 09:06 < [muze]> that's why I opted for the snapshot approach - much quicker when it's just moving data to another part of the same SAN 09:07 <@Nostalg14c> Hope its a good snap ;p 09:07 < [muze]> I'm just super hopeful it actually mounts. The DB snapshot and the Logs snapshot both kick off at the exact same time, so I don't see a reason why it wouldn't work 09:07 < [muze]> lol...yeah, no kidding 09:07 <@Nostalg14c> What product? 09:07 <@Nostalg14c> or san? 09:09 < [muze]> Nimble 09:09 < [muze]> hybrid - not all flash 09:11 < [muze]> easily my favorite storage platform I've worked with so far between Dell/EMC/EqualLogic, NetApp, and Nimble 09:13 <@Nostalg14c> Do you have any actual backups rather than a snapshots? 09:14 < [muze]> Nostalg14c: yes, CommVault both on-prem across campus and then offsite in the limestone mines of southern KS 09:15 < [muze]> those would also be slower too, because this weekend's full backup did not finish before this problem came up, so we'd have to restore last weekend's full, then let it do its magic of picking up all the incremental changes from each weeknight 09:16 < nohusuro> what's your RPO for database on nimble? 09:17 < Jay-Ros> uuugh why am I getting an invalid spf record on my mail server? 09:17 < [muze]> RPO and RTO are a day and a day 09:17 < nohusuro> oof, a day is a lot of data 09:17 < [muze]> nohusuro: ^^^ 09:18 < Jay-Ros> v=spf1 a mx include:spf.migadu.com ~all 09:18 < Jay-Ros> ^^^ it looks correct :( 09:18 < [muze]> yeah, but we're a non-profit, higher ed institution, so as long as it isn't student data - which this isn't student data thank god 09:19 < nohusuro> [muze]: at least with nimble, you can live mount a snapshot 09:19 < Jay-Ros> nimble? 09:19 < Jay-Ros> not purestorage? 09:20 < nohusuro> Jay-Ros: what's telling you your SPF record is invalid? 09:20 < [muze]> nohusuro: yeah, I didn't write directly over it. I removed the old one, cloned the snapshot I wanted, mounted it, and now copying it to more permanent storage for Exchange 09:20 < Wannabejrsysadm> sup gents 09:21 < Jay-Ros> nohusuro - I'm playing with a website (first time), hosting on godaddy and trying to get migadu to host the emails 09:21 < vhudrox> best stuff ever https://imgur.com/a/B5ids discuss. 09:21 < nohusuro> Jay-Ros: but what's telling you your spf is incorrect? 09:22 < nohusuro> dude vhudrox NSFW! 09:22 < Jay-Ros> muze - if you're on exchange you could give it a new-mailboxrepairrequest? 09:22 < nohusuro> the fuck 09:22 < nohusuro> at least tag that shit 09:22 < voidstar> ^ 09:22 < Jay-Ros> nohusuro 09:22 < Jay-Ros> https://imgur.com/a/r58b3 09:23 < Jay-Ros> ^ not porn ;) 09:23 < nohusuro> no more opening imgur links for me 09:23 < nohusuro> kay, risked that one 09:23 < Jay-Ros> jus this one, i've never steered you wrong (I'm also in the office) 09:23 < vhudrox> nohusuro: if you are on irc on your work computer, and your boss cares about appropriate use of tech at work, your job already depends on you not getting caught wasting company paid time 09:23 < nohusuro> thankfully not porn ffs 09:23 < nohusuro> I'm on IRC on my dedi :P 09:24 < vhudrox> if you spend work time on IRC and click not-clearly-labelled links, you get what you've got coming, IMHO 09:24 < nohusuro> vhudrox: I think that'd be a fairly unique point of view around here 09:25 < vhudrox> nohusuro: so your boss would understand this use of your work time but wouldn't understand that a troll made you inadvertently spend a second at a bad site before realizing and exiting? 09:25 < vhudrox> seems like a strange place to draw the line 09:25 < Wannabejrsysadm> guys whats a good business laptop in 1500€ range (not bought in bulk) 09:26 < vhudrox> anyway, what if your chat window is full of words like fuck, cunt, and nigger? would that get you in trouble too? 09:26 < nohusuro> conferring with ones collective colleagues on issues relating to technology is VASTLY different from looking at porn on a work computer you fuckwit 09:26 < Jay-Ros> wannabejrsysadm - there's a reddit/r/sysadmin conversation about rollouts 09:26 < vhudrox> nohusuro: colleagues? this aint your company chat lol 09:26 < vhudrox> this is the internet, 1% professionals, 50% dweebs and 49% a mix of the two 09:27 < vhudrox> if you like those odds go ahead and click links 09:27 < vhudrox> from new users who just joined 09:27 < Jay-Ros> wannabejrsysadm - I'm not sure what the price is but we've been getting hp 1040 g3s 09:27 < vhudrox> otherwise don't 09:27 < Jay-Ros> there's prob a new one 09:27 < vhudrox> or just eat shit for all i care 09:27 < vhudrox> you made me the most successfull at trolling you over anyone else I've tried 09:27 < vhudrox> just by continuing this bullshit so long 09:28 < vhudrox> and now you are a dunce 09:28 < vhudrox> and you have been trolled 09:28 < vhudrox> so suck that, moron 09:28 < Jay-Ros> vhudrox - do you have a favourite colour? 09:28 < vhudrox> lol dongs 09:28 < vhudrox> https://imgur.com/a/B5ids 09:28 < [muze]> Jay-Ros: the time it would take before users start rolling in was a gamble, so we opted for restoring a snapshot that would be way quicker and technically nobody should have been working in the database that was corrupt today. 09:28 < vhudrox> Jay-Ros: Pink because its the inside of your moms pussy 09:28 < vhudrox> in any other context green 09:28 < Jay-Ros> vhudrox - figured. 09:28 < vhudrox> because its camoflauge 09:28 < vhudrox> and im an elite warrior ninja 09:28 < Jay-Ros> vhudrox!*@* added to ignore list. 09:29 < vhudrox> Jay-Ros: are you on drugs? 09:29 < vhudrox> or maybe you need drugs 09:29 < vhudrox> like medical drugs 09:29 < vhudrox> for your brain damage 09:30 < Wannabejrsysadm> jo 09:30 < Wannabejrsysadm> chill out 09:30 < vhudrox> dont tell me to chill 09:30 < vhudrox> you fucking jewbaby 09:30 < Jay-Ros> [muze] - snapshot skips emails from start to finish; bouncebacks unless you drop the email relay. 09:30 < vhudrox> go cry to your mommy if you dont like it 09:31 < vhudrox> lol fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck 09:31 <@Nostalg14c> vhudrox: This is a work channel. Please tag NSFW links appropriately. 09:31 < Jay-Ros> check your email queue while you're restoring. Losing emails can be worse than downtime 09:31 < vhudrox> okay sorry Nostalg14c 09:31 < Holo> NinjaStyle he is spamming this shit in a lot of channels 09:31 < vhudrox> since you have your dunce c@p on I guess I have to listen 09:31 < Holo> in #freenode #3networking etc 09:31 < vhudrox> Holo: that's irrelevant here 09:32 < nohusuro> can't believe people get a rise out of trying to troll people 09:32 < Jay-Ros> sorry, better wording: check your email relay while restoring; if you're not getting a queue buildup, drop the relays 09:32 < vhudrox> and #3networking doesnt even exist AFAIK 09:32 < Holo> nice try but it is since you are doing it everywhere 09:32 < vhudrox> so stop spreading lies 09:32 < Holo> and ##networking 09:32 < Holo> sorry if I am drunk 09:32 < Holo> but I have logs :P 09:32 < Jay-Ros> also, consider DAGs 09:32 < vhudrox> that reminds me i should probably visit #cisco 09:32 < nohusuro> Jay-Ros: with regard to your SPF issue, it's just saying you need to add migadu as an MX record. 09:33 < nohusuro> if you're going to be using them as your mail provider 09:33 < Jay-Ros> but I did add them, which is the confusing part :( 09:39 < vhudrox> I LIKE BOOBY TITTIES 09:39 < mtnielsen> is it possible for two certificates to have identical thumbprints but different certificate chains? 09:39 < vhudrox> i wonder how often one can say "nigger" before Sigyn has a fit 09:39 < vhudrox> someone should probably test that 09:39 < vhudrox> or hack the server and pull the source code 09:40 < vhudrox> and just reverse engineer the criteria for an auto k-line 09:40 < mtnielsen> i was going to say, can't you just leave and not come back 09:40 < mtnielsen> but he left 09:40 < Holo> and thats the 3rd channel I am on he has been banned from 09:40 < Holo> thank gos 09:40 < Holo> god* 09:40 < Holo> <3 Nostalg14c 09:41 < Holo> mtnielsen in theory? yes 09:42 < Holo> the chances of it happening tho? not going to happen 09:42 < mtnielsen> looks like theory is playing tricks on me right now then 09:42 < mtnielsen> unless it's one of those mondays where everything just looks wrong 09:43 < mtnielsen> i have an intermediate ca cert that on my pc is issued by one root ca but on my server it's issued by another 09:43 < mtnielsen> same thumbprint though 09:43 < mtnielsen> at least that's how it looks for now 09:51 < plop> is ihre arround? 09:52 < plop> or another zabbix/grafana guru? 09:53 < mtnielsen> my server says the certificate is issued by COMODO RSA DV (33 9c dd...), issued by COMODO RSA (f5 ad 0b...), issued by AddTrust (02 fa f3...) however my pc says the certificate is issued by (33 9c dd..), issued by COMODO Secure (af e5 d2...) 09:53 < mtnielsen> so somehow I've got two different intermediate CA's with the same thumbprint 09:59 < Reverend> so they're the same CA? 09:59 < Reverend> xD 09:59 < mtnielsen> well they're issued by different CAs 09:59 < Reverend> PEBKAC 09:59 < Holo> certificate is issued by COMODO RSA DV (33 9c dd...), however my pc says the certificate is issued by (33 9c dd..), 09:59 < Holo> looks like the same CA. to me 10:00 < mtnielsen> yes, the intermediate is the same but the root CA is different, so unless they re-issued the same intermediate CA from a different root 10:00 < mtnielsen> and both are valid 10:00 < mtnielsen> I'm not sure if this is supposed to be possible 10:01 < mtnielsen> oh I'm writing the chain backwards if you didn't notice 10:03 < jumi> morning 10:04 < Wannabejrsysadm> anyone experience with OpenVPN ? 10:04 < Wannabejrsysadm> we got some chinese sales agent who is recieving this : Mon Apr 09 16:01:03 2018 SIGUSR1[soft,connection-reset] received, process restarting 10:04 < Wannabejrsysadm> my best bet its getting firewalled :/ 10:10 < Wannabejrsysadm> funny thing is 10:10 < Wannabejrsysadm> PPTP does work 10:21 < Trapdoor> what's the deal with the imperial system? 10:42 < plop> Trapdoor, are you a rebel scum? r/empiredidnothingwrong 10:42 <+MillerBOSS> .bofh 10:42 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS, BOFH says: Flourescent lights are generating negative ions. If turning them off doesn't work, take them out and put tin foil on the ends. 10:42 <+MillerBOSS> lol 10:43 < Wannabejrsysadm> Boys, I have 2 DC's with both a DHCP role installed on 10:43 < Wannabejrsysadm> Failover Relationship: Load Balance mode 10:43 < Wannabejrsysadm> shouldn't I put it in Hot Standby Mode ? 10:43 <+MillerBOSS> Jump up and down and bang on the desk like a monkey Wannabejrsysadm 10:44 < Wannabejrsysadm> MillerBOSS i'm already doing that :D 10:44 <+MillerBOSS> Don't stop 10:44 <+MillerBOSS> And go on youtube live and share the link 10:45 < Wannabejrsysadm> how much are you willing to pay to view my amazing monkey performance ? ;) 10:45 < Trapdoor> but there is no imperial system 10:45 < Trapdoor> it's defunc 10:46 <+MillerBOSS> 20 cents an hour Wannabejrsysadm 10:46 < Trapdoor> why would you even have measurements like "PSI" when the defintions of both pounds and inches are based on the metric system 10:46 < Trapdoor> it's baffling 10:47 <+MillerBOSS> Trapdoor 👉 Are you having a bad day? 10:47 < Trapdoor> nah I get this revelation every now and then 10:48 <+MillerBOSS> ;) 10:48 < Trapdoor> if you look up the definition of an "inch" it's literally 2.54cm 10:48 < Trapdoor> not ~2.54cm or based on a "golden inch" stored somewhere in a vault 10:48 < Trapdoor> no, it's actually 2.54cm 10:49 <+MillerBOSS> I'll stick with an inch 10:49 <+MillerBOSS> :P 10:49 < Trapdoor> what are you basing your inch on? 10:49 < Trapdoor> what's the definition? 10:49 <+MillerBOSS> My penis's 10 inches 10:49 < Trapdoor> tell me what an inch is 10:49 <+MillerBOSS> What do you mean based on? 10:50 <+MillerBOSS> An inch is an inch 10:50 < Trapdoor> I know what a meter is based on, it's how far light travels in 1/299 792 458 seconds 10:50 < Trapdoor> so what is an inch? 10:50 <+MillerBOSS> This _ _ much 10:50 < Trapdoor> I can tell you what an inch is 10:51 < Trapdoor> you want to know how long an inch is? 10:51 < Trapdoor> the international defintion? 10:51 < Trapdoor> it's how far light travels in vacuum in 1/7 614 728 seconds 10:51 < Trapdoor> there, your fucking SCIENTIFIC MEASUREMENT is now rooted in reality 10:51 <+MillerBOSS> Well there you go 10:52 < Trapdoor> specifically 1/7 614 728.4332 seconds 10:52 <+MillerBOSS> A Mazing Trapdoor 10:52 <+MillerBOSS> :D 10:52 < Trapdoor> or 0.0254/299 792 458 seconds 10:55 <+MillerBOSS> https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-04-09-03-55-49-IC.png 10:56 <+MillerBOSS> I think I am doing something right 10:57 < Wannabejrsysadm> what youtube channel are you running millerboss ? 10:57 <+MillerBOSS> Secret 10:57 < Wannabejrsysadm> i'l subscribe ?!ç ;o 10:58 <+MillerBOSS> It was a bullshit channel then the other day I decided to change the name and try something different. So that is why the 1000 sub lost but that is OK https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-04-09-03-57-47-rt.png 10:58 <+MillerBOSS> That is 28 days 11:03 < Wannabejrsysadm> 70k subs 11:03 < Wannabejrsysadm> not bad! 11:04 < Wannabejrsysadm> so what the f are you making 11:04 < Wannabejrsysadm> tech vids ? 11:07 <+MillerBOSS> See pm 11:12 < FenJai> Morning peeps 11:19 < MikeSpears> Sup nerds 11:21 <+MillerBOSS> First day at work for MikeSpears 11:22 < MikeSpears> Yup 11:22 <+MillerBOSS> Are you ready to kick some ass? 11:23 < MikeSpears> Lol yea 11:24 <+MillerBOSS> Good 11:27 < Hatsjoe> s/kick/eat/ 11:27 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS meant: "Are you ready to eat some ass?" 11:27 < FenJai> Ha 11:35 < nerdinja> did somebody say eat ass? 11:39 < Reverend> ALRIGHT BOYS 11:39 < Trapdoor> I'm not even a developer, why do I fix developers' code all the time? 11:39 < Reverend> got a bit of a conundrum here 11:39 <+MillerBOSS> S/BOYS/GIRLS 11:40 < FenJai> s/BOYS/GIRLS 11:40 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS meant: "S/GIRLS/GIRLS" 11:40 < Reverend> so we do `find . -type f -or -type d -exec rm -rv {} \;` 11:40 < Reverend> which doesn't work 11:40 < FenJai> haha 11:40 < Trapdoor> coworker was editing the wrong config file of his software 11:40 < Reverend> but if we do `find . -type f -or -type d | xargs rm -rv ` 11:40 < Reverend> it does 11:40 < Trapdoor> "there must be a network issue, trapdoor why is there a network issue?" 11:40 < Reverend> CAN HAS HALP PLS 11:40 * MillerBOSS is listening to Kiss — Shout It Out Loud, from the album The Very Best of Kiss 11:41 <+MillerBOSS> Might as well crank it up till people get here in a few hours eh 11:41 <+MillerBOSS> SHOUT IT SHOUT IT LOOOOOOOUD 11:41 < Trapdoor> on the flipside I get to laugh at my coworkers' mistakes 11:41 < Trapdoor> in their faces 11:41 <+MillerBOSS> Get it on VIDEOTAPE 11:42 <+MillerBOSS> With a VHS tape camcorder 11:42 * MillerBOSS waits for Trapdoor 11:42 < Trapdoor> "did you check if your packets are going through the right interface with wireshark?" "no..." 11:42 < Trapdoor> wireshark shows nothing on the interface apart from the usual 11:43 < Trapdoor> alright... "why'd you comment out the part where it outputs 'connection succesful' with the ip address etc?" "oh I just assume it always connects" 11:43 < Trapdoor> note: this is UDP 11:44 < Trapdoor> so for future reference, \Debug\app.config is not the same as \Release\app.config 11:44 < Trapdoor> "hurr durr it's not working and Trapdoor isn't at work yet, what a tragedy" 11:45 < jumi> fucking devs coding directly in prod and not in development environment 11:45 < Hatsjoe> Reverend: have you checked DNS? 11:45 < jumi> and complaining that it's "a hassle" 11:45 < Trapdoor> This wasn't even on the network 11:46 < Trapdoor> this was on proprietary equipment delivered by Kongsberg 11:47 < Hatsjoe> Reverend: try: 'find . -type f -or -type d -exec rm -rv {} +' 11:48 < Hatsjoe> I've had issues with the rm command with find before.. Issue with '\;' is that it tries to remove all the stuff find finds in 1 go, whilst 11:48 < Trapdoor> the guys that make https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CROWS, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Strike_Missile and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASAMS_2 11:48 < Hatsjoe> whilst '+' executes a seperate rm for each result of find 11:49 < Hatsjoe> iirc there's a limit on how many arguments/files rm can remove in 1 single go, i.e. 'rm file1 file2 file3 ... file99999' 11:51 < Hatsjoe> Reverend: just looking into it now, I might be mixing up '\;' and '+'... But you can try it anyway :P 12:06 * MillerBOSS is listening to Ace Frehley — New York Groove, from the album The Very Best of Kiss 12:06 <+MillerBOSS> I'M BACK 12:07 < plop> welcome back 12:07 <+MillerBOSS> I'M BACK IN THE NEW YORK GROOVE 12:07 <+MillerBOSS> :P 12:07 <+MillerBOSS> Thanks plop 12:10 < Wannabejrsysadm> Reverend heya <3 12:10 < Wannabejrsysadm> long time no see <3 12:17 <+MillerBOSS> https://twitter.com/Jason/status/983076225429061632 12:18 <+MillerBOSS> Uh oh https://twitter.com/dannysullivan/status/983197798567886849 12:24 < JFDkthx> fack 12:24 < JFDkthx> today needs to be a run level 3 day 12:27 < FenJai> Run level 3 ? 12:32 < no26> Hello 12:32 <+MillerBOSS> Hola no26 12:32 < no26> I have a troubleshooting using a PCI-card who emulate a parallel card 12:33 < no26> When I connect my card, the irq line are connected to the irq16 who are a IO-APIC fasteoi 12:34 < no26> I want to move the irq from fasteoi to edge-triggered 12:34 < no26> It's possible ? 12:34 < no26> ( i'm sorry for my bad english, it's not my native ) 12:34 < no26> MillerBOSS: How do you do ? :) 12:35 <+MillerBOSS> That one if over my head (out of my league), no26. Great. 12:35 <+MillerBOSS> Your English is just fine. :) 12:35 < no26> Oh :( sorry 12:35 <+MillerBOSS> Does the card have any support? 12:35 <+MillerBOSS> Such as email or telephone? 12:36 < no26> No. 12:36 < no26> It's just a pci-card with a parallel-port controller 12:36 < no26> I can drive my parallel device without problem, except the irq line are fasteoi 12:37 <+MillerBOSS> Are there any options in device manager under that card? 12:37 <+MillerBOSS> I assume its a Windows machine 12:38 < no26> yep 12:38 < no26> dual boot windows/linux 12:38 < no26> and no 12:38 < JFDkthx> no26: have you looked for somethin in the bios? 12:38 < no26> The bios doesn't help me (no option for chose the irq line) 12:39 < JFDkthx> yeah... 12:39 < JFDkthx> i think you might be out of luck. 12:40 < JFDkthx> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/182628/how-to-disable-pci-bus-irq-steering-in-windows 12:40 < JFDkthx> maybe this? 12:40 < Trapdoor> that sounds terrible no26 sorry 12:40 < no26> My card are in the physical irq 11 who are bind to the virtual irq16 12:40 < no26> Oh, i'm on Linux 12:40 < no26> :x 12:40 <+MillerBOSS> https://superuser.com/questions/236593/how-do-i-see-change-the-irql-of-my-device see On Window image. You don 12:40 < JFDkthx> oh. 12:40 <+MillerBOSS> https://superuser.com/questions/236593/how-do-i-see-change-the-irql-of-my-device see On Window image. You don't see that? 12:40 < no26> dual boot windows-linux and I search solution for Linux 12:40 < no26> ( sorry for the mistake ) 12:40 <+MillerBOSS> cat /proc/interrupts 12:40 <+MillerBOSS> See link above 12:41 < no26> I use /proc/interrupt to see the interrupt line 12:41 < no26> And I see i'm on the irq16 12:41 < no26> who are fasteoi 12:41 < no26> but I need to change from fasteoi to edge-triggered 12:42 <+MillerBOSS> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45472215/is-it-possible-to-change-which-core-timer-interrupts-happen-on 12:42 <+MillerBOSS> Does that help? IRQs were before my time. :P 12:42 < no26> Nop 12:42 < no26> SMP affinity are the the cpu affinity for an irq 12:43 <+MillerBOSS> What is your native language? 12:43 < no26> French 12:44 <+MillerBOSS> I then assume you have to Google in French and won't see English results? 12:44 < no26> I search only in english langage 12:44 <+MillerBOSS> Ahh 12:44 < no26> ^^ 12:44 <+MillerBOSS> Just curious. :) 12:46 <+MillerBOSS> Maybe try /list linux or maybe ##hardware no26 Else give it a few hours and more people will be awake in here. :) 12:47 < no26> Thanks for the advice :) 12:47 <+MillerBOSS> You are very welcome no26 12:47 <+MillerBOSS> I am sure you will get it figured out one way or another 12:47 < no26> yep.. I don't really know. Since pci-irq are shared-irq, i don't know if I can deal with triggered event 12:55 < Reverend> Hatsjoe we've tried the + ... but I think we're gonna go with xargs anyway 12:56 < Reverend> also `-delete` doesn';t work either :/ 13:00 < no26> no success on ##hardware 13:00 < no26> damn 13:00 < no26> :/ 13:02 < brianx> JFDkthx: lol @ 3 13:14 < Wannabejrsysadm> Hello Everyone, we have been using PPTP for a while now but i configured OpenVPN and deployed it for everyone 13:14 < Wannabejrsysadm> we deployed the PPTP config with GPO 13:14 < Wannabejrsysadm> how do I remove this config from all pc's ? 13:14 < Wannabejrsysadm> with the same GPO ? 13:14 < Wannabejrsysadm> I can't seem to change the "action" 13:16 < Reverend> PPTP is cancer 13:18 < Wannabejrsysadm> agreed Reverend thats why i want to remove it :3 13:19 < Reverend> :D 13:19 < Reverend> no idea though. I don't do AD stuff. 13:19 < Wannabejrsysadm> I still have to use it for a few sales agents in China 13:19 < Wannabejrsysadm> great chinese firewall blocks OpenVPN 13:19 < Wannabejrsysadm> but not pptp o.o 13:19 < Hatsjoe> Reverend: alright.. And yeah, -delete doesnt work if the dir is not empty.. 13:20 < Reverend> it is :/ 13:20 < FenJai_> What about IPsec Wannabejrsysadm ? 13:20 < Reverend> `find . -type d -delete` on an empty dir doesneh work 13:20 < zbk> windows cli confuses me 13:20 < Hatsjoe> Reverend: works for me on an empty dir 13:21 < Reverend> weird. 13:21 < Hatsjoe> https://pastebin.com/Y8NiqF9z 13:21 < Reverend> wait. that worked on my machine... but not on the meesql box. 13:21 < Reverend> fucking bizarreo 13:22 < Hatsjoe> GNU find and Unix find differences maybe? 13:22 < Reverend> https://hastebin.com/zaqepafuca.bash 13:22 < Reverend> worked here. 13:22 < Reverend> you has a point 13:22 < Reverend> maybs 13:26 < estranger> So sick of the snowwww 13:26 < estranger> At least it's Monday! Right boys?? 13:27 <+MillerBOSS> Sick of your face estranger 13:27 < JFDkthx> estranger: it snowed all weekend 13:27 <+MillerBOSS> :P 13:27 < estranger> You love it 13:27 < JFDkthx> fuck the snow 13:27 < JFDkthx> it's almost mid april 13:28 < estranger> I didn't know it was supposed to snow.. winter wonderland outside 13:28 < estranger> Even the dog is sick of it 13:29 <+MillerBOSS> https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/monero-just-hard-forked-and-it-resulted-four-new-projects/ 13:29 < JFDkthx> Russian woman, 27, dies in agony after being 'embalmed alive' instead of being put on saline drip in hospital blunder 13:29 < JFDkthx> eeek 13:31 < estranger> I just put out my deck furniture too 13:31 <+MillerBOSS> Holy shit 13:31 <+MillerBOSS> That is scary shit JFDkthx 13:31 <+MillerBOSS> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5590893/Russian-woman-embalmed-alive-instead-saline-drip-horrific-medical-blunder.html 13:32 < estranger> Wonder if the undertaker still charged full price 13:32 <+MillerBOSS> She begged doctors to help - but they told her to go home, cook chicken soup and stop worrying. 13:33 < Wannabejrsysadm> what does "embalmed" mean ? 13:33 <+MillerBOSS> preserve (a corpse) from decay, originally with spices and now usually by arterial injection of a preservative. 13:34 <+MillerBOSS> formaldehyde is used when a body is dead only 13:34 < estranger> Whatever you do, never use worcestershire as an embalming flui 13:35 <+MillerBOSS> To preserve it 13:35 <+MillerBOSS> That is scary that they can fuck up that bad 13:35 <+MillerBOSS> >'I spoke to the criminal investigator, and he told me it was negligence. 13:35 < estranger> Medical in Russia is scary 13:36 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah 13:36 < estranger> I got a family member who flies around the world teaching those davinci robotic surgery machines 13:36 <+MillerBOSS> Note to self never go to Russia 13:36 < estranger> Said he rather die than have surgery in Russia lol 13:37 <+MillerBOSS> Wow 13:37 < estranger> "most places have these medical grade tubes for drains etc, they had drinking straws" shit like that 13:37 <+MillerBOSS> doyoutrustthiscomputer.org/watch I only got half way through this but its very good 13:38 <+MillerBOSS> Geez 13:40 < estranger> Man, it's Monday + cold and snowy + I have to leave the house today. What a inhumane day 13:43 <+MillerBOSS> Where are you estranger ? 13:43 < estranger> Outside Chicago 13:45 < JFDkthx> estranger: im wfh today. combo constipation diarrhea. 13:45 < JFDkthx> and we doing testing today! 13:45 < JFDkthx> fuck my life 13:45 < estranger> How's that work? 13:45 < JFDkthx> builds up then explodes 13:45 < JFDkthx> violently. 13:46 <+MillerBOSS> Oh for some reason I thought you were over the pond 13:46 < estranger> JFDkthx: oof 13:46 <+MillerBOSS> Get it on VHS tape JFDkthx 13:46 < JFDkthx> MillerBOSS: depends on what side of the pond you are. 13:46 < estranger> MillerBOSS: I'm not that fucking weird man 13:46 <+MillerBOSS> Its VHS tape week 13:46 <+MillerBOSS> I am near Green Bay 13:47 <+MillerBOSS> Close to it estranger 13:47 < estranger> Cool.. I just moved to IL less than two years ago 13:47 < estranger> I'm in wi a lot but not that far north 13:47 <+MillerBOSS> I want to go to some expo this year with my Dad in Chicago but I am not finding anything good. 13:47 <+MillerBOSS> Like Milwaukee or what? 13:48 < estranger> Mongo world /s 13:48 < estranger> Mil is the most North I've been there yeah 13:48 <+MillerBOSS> Anything else? Tech or car shit in Chicago as far as an expo? 13:49 <+MillerBOSS> The car show just happened I think. We went to that a few times 13:49 < estranger> Amazon normally does a pretty big thing here in the summer 13:50 <+MillerBOSS> Really? Whats it called? 13:50 <+MillerBOSS> https://aws.amazon.com/summits/ this maybe 13:50 < estranger> AWS summit 13:50 < estranger> Yeah, I didn't check this years yet 13:50 <+MillerBOSS> I don't think Dad would like that lol 13:51 <+MillerBOSS> Something like a CES would be cool 13:51 < estranger> Yeh.. I dunno of any really 13:51 <+MillerBOSS> So do you have time to go out, get a lay of the land and meet people after being there for 2 years? 13:52 < estranger> Ask PrincessZ or whatever her name is, she knows Chicago better than me 13:52 < estranger> I've traveled the area a lot for work, did some of the tourist things.. but everything hibernates half the year 13:53 < estranger> We're ready for spring to start 13:53 < estranger> Just moved into a new neighborhood, haven't really even met the neighbors yet 13:54 <+MillerBOSS> Oh. Where did you move from? 13:54 < estranger> Pennsylvania 13:54 <+MillerBOSS> For work err what? 13:54 < estranger> We both lived there forever, moved here for my job 13:54 < JFDkthx> BAN HIGH CAPACITY BUSES "Dozens of Long Island High School Students Injured After Bus Strikes Overpass: Police" 13:55 <+MillerBOSS> Was/is it worth it, estranger? I never moved for a job. 13:55 <+MillerBOSS> Overpass because it was too low? Usually a bus is not that high 13:55 < estranger> So it's really weird relocating for the first time in my life.. but totally worth it 13:55 <+MillerBOSS> Great attitude. 13:56 <+MillerBOSS> You said we so I assume girlfriend or wife? 13:56 < JFDkthx> i think it was one of those charter buses 13:56 < estranger> Was a big risk.. took a new job, at a new company, with a new career path after working at the same place 18 years 13:56 <+MillerBOSS> Well they they should be alive like Jim Lahey did it to his car 13:56 < estranger> Yeh me, the gf, and the dog/cats 13:57 < estranger> I know, let's take everything I know and change it at once! 13:57 <+MillerBOSS> Wow great job estranger now don't fuck it up. :P 13:57 <+MillerBOSS> How does she like the move and all? 13:58 < estranger> I've won our excellence award and made it into president club my first eligible year... So was a solid choice 13:58 < estranger> Umm not as much as I like it lol 13:58 <+MillerBOSS> Whats all that? 13:58 <+MillerBOSS> Like a golf club? When you said that I imagined Curb Your Enthusiasm golf club 13:59 < estranger> Excellence award is given to one person a quarter for being excellent, president club is for the top percentage of the sales org .. a free all expense paid vacation 14:00 <+MillerBOSS> Oh so you work at a REAL company then. :P 14:00 <+MillerBOSS> Good for you eh 14:00 < estranger> Costa Rica this May 14:00 < estranger> Depends how you define real lol it's still technically a startup 14:00 <+MillerBOSS> So then I will share I was employee of the month the first month they had it as a restaurant I was a waiter at and they never did it again so I was the first and only. Lol :P 14:01 < estranger> Top dog! 14:02 <+MillerBOSS> Well here where I work there are not policies for anything. Employee handbook for 94. Umm No reward type system or anything really. Kinda blah but I get paid nicely so I try to keep my mouth shut. 14:02 <+MillerBOSS> s/are not /are no 14:02 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS meant: "Well here where I work there are nopolicies for anything. Employee handbook for 94. Umm No reward type system or anything really. Kinda blah but I get paid nicely so I try to keep my mouth shut." 14:02 < estranger> It's weird making friends in your 30s 14:02 <+MillerBOSS> Weird how? 14:02 <+MillerBOSS> I am sure you can find couples friends 14:03 <+MillerBOSS> Go out to the local bar 14:03 < estranger> Yeah when it warms up we'll start doing things.. not bars though, makes it a challenge lol 14:03 <+MillerBOSS> Hell if I know. I can talk it but I don't have any friends much. I choose to stay to myself. :( 14:03 <+MillerBOSS> You bet 14:04 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah its usually warmer in Chicago than up here 14:04 < estranger> Fuck that 14:04 < estranger> Cold enough here 14:04 <+MillerBOSS> Chicago shouldn't be any colder than Pennsylvania 14:05 <+MillerBOSS> Unless you are near the lake 14:05 <+MillerBOSS> I guess 14:17 * tsarbomba throws millerboss down a frozen lake-effect quarry 14:17 < tsarbomba> it'll be 90F here today 14:17 <+MillerBOSS> Must be nice 14:17 < tsarbomba> s/nice/hell 14:17 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS meant: "Must be hell" 14:18 < tsarbomba> summer loses its novelty when it runs from march-november 14:18 < Wannabejrsysadm> well boys 14:18 < Wannabejrsysadm> the day is her 14:18 < Wannabejrsysadm> 0 TICKETS 14:18 < Wannabejrsysadm> *hooray* 14:18 < tsarbomba> Wannabejrsysadm: back to work 14:18 < Wannabejrsysadm> 0 tickets , in theory I have no work ;) 14:18 <+MillerBOSS> Scrub the toilet. 14:20 < Wannabejrsysadm> how old are you MillerBOSS :P 14:20 < tsarbomba> old enough to order you to scrub the toilet 14:20 < tsarbomba> now GET TO WORK 14:20 <+MillerBOSS> Ha ha 14:20 <+MillerBOSS> Mid 30s 14:22 < tsarbomba> millerboss is 22 but has the soul of glenn miller 14:22 < tsarbomba> as well as the record collection 14:22 < vinrock> tsarbomba where you at 14:22 <+MillerBOSS> I even feel 22 14:22 < tsarbomba> miami area 14:22 <+MillerBOSS> More like 26 14:22 < vinrock> dayum 14:23 < tsarbomba> one last blast of 60 degree lows coming end of week 14:23 < estranger> MillerBOSS: on paper pa and Chicago look close in temps.. but the few extra degrees of cold + the wind chill is really noticable 14:23 < tsarbomba> then it'll be 90F+/90% RH every day 14:23 < vinrock> id take that weather over here 14:23 < vinrock> its in the 20s today 14:24 < tsarbomba> the 20s is a little much for april 14:24 < estranger> My dad in FL calls me bitching he has to wear jeans 14:24 < tsarbomba> i'd kill everyone in here and their pets for 40s-50s 14:24 <+MillerBOSS> estranger 👉 Yeah I guess. 14:24 < tsarbomba> estranger does he call them "dungarees" like millerboss does 14:24 < estranger> Lol 14:25 < estranger> Dude is 80 and kicking ass 14:25 < estranger> Got his pimped out golf cart, rolling around The Villages 14:26 < estranger> Married to my former baby sitter 14:26 < vinrock> giggity 14:26 < estranger> I got a normal family.. dad married my babysitter, mom married an IRC cowboy 14:28 < tsarbomba> wtf is an irc cowboy 14:28 <+MillerBOSS> tsarbomba 👉 Duh, estranger is 14:28 < tsarbomba> git along little doggies 14:28 < estranger> A guy who's a cowboy and uses IRC 14:29 < tsarbomba> i think you just called your mom a cow 14:29 < estranger> She moved then to Wyoming 14:29 < estranger> The guy basically sleeps in his cowboy boots 14:30 < Casteil> I wouldn't be entirely opposed to living in wyoming or montana 14:30 < Casteil> Missoula would probably be a pretty nice place to live if you like mountains 14:31 < vinrock> wyoming is one of those states that you hear and are like 14:31 < vinrock> 'oh yeah thats right, wyoming exists' 14:31 < Casteil> I think the epitome of that sentiment is nebraska 14:32 < tsarbomba> longmire lives in wyoming 14:32 < Casteil> far more people fly over nebraska than have ever visited the state :P 14:32 < tsarbomba> s/nebraska/kansas 14:32 <+layer-eight> Casteil meant: "far more people fly over kansas than have ever visited the state :P" 14:32 < mrghostman> the population of the county i work in is almost the same as the population of the state of Montana 14:32 < mrghostman> i'd love to live there 14:32 < tsarbomba> wyoming is our smallest state 14:32 < tsarbomba> 850thousandish? 14:32 < tsarbomba> the land of "not even a million people" 14:33 < vinrock> 582,658 in 2013 14:33 < tsarbomba> jesus i was well north 14:33 < vinrock> while Vermont had 626,630 14:33 < vinrock> hah 14:33 < tsarbomba> maybe some of those illegal voters in california hide in wyoming during off-years 14:34 * tsarbomba scans backup reports while coffee IV starts to take effect 14:35 < tsarbomba> so many people forget to build in a short delay when authing to nickserv 14:36 < tsarbomba> or fail2sasl 14:37 < Wannabejrsysadm> filthy Americans 14:37 < Wannabejrsysadm> gtfo 14:41 < tsarbomba> omgracism 14:41 < vinrock> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14:41 < Nightcinder> so i have a fun issue 14:42 < vinrock> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14:42 < Nightcinder> when i login to certain servers it takes forever to get past the spinning welcome via RDP 14:42 < Nightcinder> but if i login through vsphere console it's instant 14:42 < Nightcinder> anyone? 14:42 < vinrock> idk the mechanism but have experienced that over ipsec vpn 14:42 < Nightcinder> this is over LAN 14:42 < vinrock> ok thats odd 14:43 < vinrock> its some sorta auth issue where it waits and times out 14:43 < Nightcinder> also getting stuck at securing remote connection on our DC and file server for like 4 minutes 14:43 < Nightcinder> only seem to happens to domain admins 14:43 < tsarbomba> what sort of auth are you using? 14:43 < Nightcinder> just standard windows 14:43 < tsarbomba> ... 14:43 < tsarbomba> RDP auth 14:44 < Wannabejrsysadm> anyone ever heard of a tool to check weak AD passwords ? 14:44 < Nightcinder> i mean, AD? 14:44 < Nightcinder> we're a fully winders environment 14:45 < Nightcinder> https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/860747-rdp-is-very-slow-at-the-welcome-screen i found this but that doesn't seem right 14:45 < JFDkthx> Wannabejrsysadm: why not just enforce a strong password policy? 14:45 < tsarbomba> rdp session host config -> rdp-tcp -> properties -> what security layer is configured on the host? 14:46 < Wannabejrsysadm> JFDkthx its strong ;o 14:46 < Wannabejrsysadm> just there are some exceptions i think 14:47 < JFDkthx> can you enforce a dictionary with AD? 14:47 < Nightcinder> er..doesn't session host config not exist anymore? 14:47 < Nightcinder> isn't it somewhere in server manager now 14:49 < Nightcinder> wonder if it has something to do with the secondary DC i created 14:52 < tsarbomba> do it in powershell under 2016 14:52 < tsarbomba> module "remotedesktop" 14:52 <+MillerBOSS> Do it in paper and pencil under the table 1993 14:52 * tsarbomba flings millerboss back into his dark quarry 14:53 <+MillerBOSS> Module "fuckshitup" 14:54 < tsarbomba> someone's day-drinking again :( 14:54 < estranger> 1/2 gallon of water or so! 14:54 < tsarbomba> s/water/hooch 14:54 <+layer-eight> estranger meant: "1/2 gallon of hooch or so!" 14:55 < tsarbomba> https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsserver/en-US/630cc818-69b0-4e1c-8d65-1b895b20e203/where-is-the-remote-desktop-session-host-configuration-tool-in-server-2012-?forum=winserverTS 14:55 < estranger> I dont do drugs! 14:55 < tsarbomba> then what's your excuse?!? 14:55 < tsarbomba> what's more hateful, 9am monday meetings or 5pm friday meetings 14:55 < estranger> I work in nosql, obv something is a bit off in me 14:57 < Trapdoor> tsarbomba, obviously 5pm friday meetings 14:57 < Trapdoor> wtf 14:57 < Trapdoor> that's a no-brainer 14:57 < Trapdoor> I don't mind half-sleeping through a 9am monday meeting 14:57 < no26> Hello / Re 14:57 < no26> I have a pci-card with a parallel-port controller in. When I insert my pci-card, in the operating system view the card become a "parallel port" and I can use the card like the standard parallel port. When I insert the pci-card, the operating system bind the card with the irq16 who are "fasteoi" type. I need to move these irq from fasteoi to level-triggered irq. Do you know how can I do that ? 14:57 < Trapdoor> I do mind 5pm friday meetings cutting my drinking time short 14:58 < no26> ( Linux ) 14:58 < JFDkthx> tsarbomba: i dont show up for 5pm friday meetings 14:59 < JFDkthx> my 40 is done way before then 14:59 < tsarbomba> trapdoor, how about when you have to run half the meeting 15:00 < tsarbomba> our meetings are not optional here, sadly 15:01 < tsarbomba> heh. judging by the radio traffic lady there are like five active car fires in miami right now 15:01 < Nightcinder> fwiw the only people having login issues are domain admins 15:01 < Trapdoor> I work 9-5 tsarbomba 15:01 < tsarbomba> did you ever look up the security layer? 15:02 < Nightcinder> no i got sidetracked with one of our DC's not responding 15:02 < Trapdoor> I don't do 9-5:30 15:02 < tsarbomba> trapdoor YOU'RE FIRED 15:02 < tsarbomba> you do what we say you do 15:02 < Trapdoor> I've worked 24+ hour shifts before 15:02 * tsarbomba prepares the GIANT METAL FIST OF NO LUBE 15:02 < Trapdoor> I've been refused to leave work after 19 hours 15:02 < Trapdoor> I don't take any more crap 15:02 < Nightcinder> i don't think we have a session collector 15:02 < tsarbomba> um 15:02 < Trapdoor> tsarbomba, that's alright 15:02 < Trapdoor> Fucking fire me 15:02 < Trapdoor> I dare you 15:02 < tsarbomba> did you read the link i posted 15:02 < tsarbomba> trapdoor GET OUT 15:03 < YetiFiasco> Anyone here admin any windows CE 7 devices? 15:03 < tsarbomba> shudder 15:03 < Trapdoor> Company would be fucked without me 15:03 < Nightcinder> i did but i don't see session collection devices 15:03 < Nightcinder> settings* 15:03 < Nightcinder> fuck reading and typing at the same time 15:03 < Trapdoor> Not "who's gonna fix your email when it doesn't work" or anything like that 15:04 < Trapdoor> Like, legit fucked 15:04 < YetiFiasco> I need some wat to copy files to it via the network 15:04 <+MillerBOSS> http://click.here.to.get.ripped.in.three.weeks.verylegit.link/flashexploitx86(605noticecreditcard(.pdf.json.zip 15:04 < JFDkthx> tsarbomba: if they are mandatory then im phoning in from home on the shitter 15:05 < JFDkthx> they can get bent especially if they are just corpie bs calls 15:05 < tsarbomba> okay my copy/paste has shit itself 15:05 < asimon> Good morning baltimore 15:05 < asimon> I mean friends 15:05 < tsarbomba> google "session holst role service powershell 2012" 15:05 < tsarbomba> s/holst/host 15:06 <+layer-eight> tsarbomba meant: "google "session host role service powershell 2012"" 15:06 < tsarbomba> you'll find the msdn article with the details 15:06 < tsarbomba> brb restarting terminal 15:09 < Nightcinder> this, tsarbomba? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/OS74DdGv/image.png 15:10 < Nightcinder> man, person who set up this RDS environment before me decided we didn't need UPD's 15:10 < Nightcinder> i hate this person 15:10 < Nightcinder> i want them to die 15:10 < tsarbomba> ok so it's using tls 15:10 <+giant_it_burrit> upd? 15:10 < tsarbomba> are you using the same machine to RDP in using non-domain admin? 15:10 < Nightcinder> user profile disks 15:10 < tsarbomba> or are you RDPing to the same host? 15:10 <+MillerBOSS> Updawg 15:10 < tsarbomba> no 15:10 <+giant_it_burrit> o 15:11 < tsarbomba> you can't use the same dad joke 10 times in a week, millerboss 15:11 < tsarbomba> just no 15:11 * MillerBOSS looks at watch 15:11 < Nightcinder> rdp'ing to the same server on the same machine with a domain admin and non domain admin 15:11 <+MillerBOSS> New week buddy 15:11 < tsarbomba> STAHP 15:11 < Nightcinder> admin takes forever, user is instant 15:11 < Nightcinder> this is all servers not just the RDS environment 15:11 < tsarbomba> which GPOs run when admin is logged in that do not run when user is 15:12 < Nightcinder> you think it's a broken GPO? 15:12 < tsarbomba> i think it could be broken or just unwieldy GPO 15:12 < tsarbomba> certainly going to be differences in what runs between DA and standard user 15:12 < tsarbomba> if you've got a slow network link to a resource that isn't touched by standard user that could slow down the whole thintg 15:12 < Nightcinder> let me look 15:12 < tsarbomba> roaming profiles and a big home dir too 15:13 < tsarbomba> lots of possibilities, those are two of the gotchas though 15:13 < Nightcinder> i'll disable some policies and check 15:13 < JFDkthx> Nightcinder: logon scripts? 15:13 < Nightcinder> no 15:15 < felda> wewlad 15:15 < tsarbomba> i'd check the differences in gpresult first before disabling shit willy nilly 15:15 < felda> when my user's email account was compromised the guy setup an email forward >:( 15:15 < abakedapplepie> man 15:15 <+MillerBOSS> girl 15:15 < felda> Outlook never mentions email forwards ever so you just have to know to look 15:15 < abakedapplepie> is anyone familiar with less.js 15:15 < tsarbomba> felda were you failed by pfsense 15:16 < felda> Bamboozled for the whole weekend 15:16 < abakedapplepie> this shit is getting 4-6 second compile times 15:16 < abakedapplepie> like.. wtf 15:16 < felda> abakedapplepie is your PUBG in game name the same nick? 15:16 < tsarbomba> compiling...javascript? 15:16 < abakedapplepie> yes 15:16 < felda> I saw you killed in a Shroud video :D 15:16 < tsarbomba> ok 15:16 < abakedapplepie> lmfao really 15:16 < felda> yeah 15:16 < felda> it was just the kill feed 15:16 < abakedapplepie> was that the guy that killed me running with a p98 and landed EVERY GOD DAMN SHOT 15:17 <+MillerBOSS> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaSdDi7WsAAnDqq.jpg 15:17 < felda> let me see if I can find it 15:17 < Nightcinder> i hope someone comes out with a good battle royale game 15:17 <+MillerBOSS> Blue lines are parallel 15:17 < Nightcinder> i don't like pubg or fortnite 15:17 < tsarbomba> is that your bathroom wallpaper, millerboss 15:17 < Nightcinder> though i think 4 x 4 pubg is a lot closer to the style of game i want 15:17 < abakedapplepie> the 4x4 map was fucking amazing 15:17 < tsarbomba> also that dress is not white and gold, it's blue and black 15:18 < Nightcinder> die 15:18 < abakedapplepie> pubg streaming is going to get WAY bigger with this new map 15:18 <+MillerBOSS> You bet tsarbomba 15:18 < Nightcinder> well it's boring as shit otherwise 15:18 < Nightcinder> i like fortnite but i can't build to save my life 15:18 < Nightcinder> and i don't care for the gunplay of pubg 15:18 < Nightcinder> so i'm SOL 15:18 < Reverend> fortnite is boring as shit 15:19 < estranger> flat gamers 15:19 < Reverend> same shit over and over again. just whacking away at walls until someone shoots you in the ass from a mile away 15:19 <+MillerBOSS> https://twitter.com/erikbryn/status/983083875709739012/photo/1 15:19 < Nightcinder> isle of nyne looked really interesting 15:19 < Nightcinder> sorry islands 15:20 < Nightcinder> https://islandsofnyne.com/ 15:21 < felda> anyone use 2 factor authentication with Office 365 products? 15:22 < asimon> Fortnite is my favorite 15:22 < asimon> Find a bush and hunker down for about 20 minutes 15:22 < asimon> Then kill one person and you win the game 15:22 < tsarbomba> oh you're one of those 15:22 * tsarbomba forks evil eye 15:22 < JFDkthx> Reverend: you just gotta be aggressive 15:23 < Reverend> without mats? 15:23 < asimon> tsarbomba: Why would you ever not be one of "those" 15:23 < Reverend> The timer for the cyclone thing is kinda shit too 15:23 < JFDkthx> farm trees as you go 15:23 < JFDkthx> i also rarely farm 15:23 < JFDkthx> i let other tards farm for me 15:23 < JFDkthx> and then i kill them 15:23 < Reverend> if each round lasted another 60 seconds or so, it'd be really good. give you a bit more time to do stuff between running for 30 minutes 15:23 < tsarbomba> s/farm/click cookies 15:23 <+layer-eight> JFDkthx meant: "i let other tards click cookies for me" 15:23 < JFDkthx> s/cookies/paperclips 15:23 <+layer-eight> JFDkthx meant: "i let other tards click paperclips for me" 15:24 < alazare619> "asimon> Find a bush and hunker down for about 20 minutes" 15:24 < alazare619> its not that simple 15:24 < JFDkthx> Reverend: idk man, i feel like most of the time after the first close it's already down to 30-40 15:24 < asimon> alazare619: It's exactly that simple 15:24 < asimon> whats more complicated about it 15:25 < alazare619> the map shrinks 15:25 < JFDkthx> you just gotta drop somewhere familiar and then plan out your route. 15:25 < asimon> If the storm comes you find a different bush 15:25 < alazare619> so you dont know where you will be running to? 15:25 < alazare619> so your sentence should be find a bush hunker down...if you have to move...move...hunker back down 15:25 < JFDkthx> asimon: forgive him. he has problems adapting 15:25 < asimon> Also there's no substitute for the all-natural organic bush 15:26 < asimon> None of that synthetic "legendary" shit 15:26 < asimon> alazare619: Yeah pretty much 15:26 < asimon> But if you are constantly looking for folks to fight, you're gonna die 15:27 < abakedapplepie> felda: did you find it? 15:27 < alazare619> abakedapplepie: did he lose his dong? 15:27 < abakedapplepie> what day was it and general time of day 15:27 < McDonaldsWiFi> mornin fellas 15:27 < abakedapplepie> ill look for it later 15:27 < alazare619> tell him to drop some lbs 15:27 < abakedapplepie> if you dont find it 15:28 < asimon> Morning donald 15:28 < Casteil> fucking slimy energy companies 15:28 <+MillerBOSS> What?! Where is the Donald? 15:28 < Casteil> "Sign up to receive a $25 gift card!" 15:29 < JFDkthx> asimon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuqWWzOCGac&feature=youtu.be 15:29 <+layer-eight> YouTube Don't know where he's at by 2018-03-31T01:32:42.000Z (duration: 40s) on Sat Mar 31 08:32:42 UTC 2018, 2018-03-31T01:32:42.000Z views 15:29 < JFDkthx> McDonaldsWiFi: in a bush 15:29 < Casteil> *** your energy costs may increase by approximately 8 times during critical peak hours 15:31 < Casteil> so stupid... get billed for $12.68/kwh (plus additional feels bringing it up to like 18c) when using over 600kWh, OR.... get billed for 95 cents per kWh 15:31 < tsarbomba> < asimon> Also there's no substitute for the all-natural organic bush 15:31 < tsarbomba> what have i returned to??? 15:31 < Casteil> 95 cents per kwh during "critical peak" periods 15:32 < Casteil> (basically any hot day from 2-6pm) 15:32 < felda> abakedapplepie no not yet 15:32 <+MillerBOSS> But you got a $25 gift card though 15:32 < felda> I think it was a video that came out last friday 15:32 < asimon> tsarbomba: I mean unless you like bushes that move everytime you look at them 15:32 < Casteil> basically doing the math if you use 1200kWh on the normal plan you'd pay ~$200/mo 15:33 < Casteil> if you used the same 1200kWh a month, and even just 200kWh during that critical price period, you could be paying at least $350 15:33 < Casteil> for the same usage 15:33 < felda> I won't be able to find it today. 15:33 < Casteil> I suspect they couldn't make their shitty gouging scheme mandatory hence the gift card incentive and opt-in program 15:33 < felda> At least not while I'm at work 15:34 < Casteil> frankly they don't incentivize off-peak usage nearly enough 15:34 < Casteil> and penalize peak usage far too much 15:34 < Casteil> it's a super transparent price gouging scheme 15:35 < Casteil> "save <2 cents per kwh 11pm-7am.. but get billed 95 cents per kWh 2pm-6pm!" 15:36 < Casteil> yeah, lets sign up to get billed at almost 10 times the normal rate during my most likely usage time.. 15:39 < asimon> Casteil: It's kinda like the new tolls they just put up in VA 15:39 < asimon> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dr-gridlock/wp/2018/01/24/the-toll-on-i-66-inside-the-beltway-hit-46-75-wednesday-morning/ 15:40 <+MillerBOSS> What the fuck is that shit? 15:40 <+MillerBOSS> The toll is set to a dynamic pricing system that changes every six minutes, based on demand and traffic volumes. 15:40 < asimon> Yeah 15:40 < asimon> Meant to discourage folks from taking that road during peak times 15:41 < asimon> But its not like you can make an informed economic decision before getting on that road and seeing that it's backed up for miles 15:41 <+MillerBOSS> There are no tolls in Wisconsin. 15:41 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah good point. 15:41 < asimon> So in addition to sitting in traffic you have to pay out the ass to do it 15:41 <+MillerBOSS> Freeway baby 15:41 < Casteil> MillerBOSS: Capitalism 15:44 < Sousapro> latestagecapitalism? 15:44 < Sousapro> :P 15:44 < Sousapro> you've gotta pay a fee to pay your taxes 15:44 < Sousapro> lol 15:45 < Sousapro> the subreddit is so much cringe but at the same time I cry when I laugh at it 15:45 < Sousapro> s/the/that 15:45 <+layer-eight> Sousapro meant: "that subreddit is so much cringe but at that same time I cry when I laugh at it" 15:45 <+MillerBOSS> I am blown away as to how much of the views are on mobile https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-04-09-08-44-24-cO.png https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-04-09-08-45-23-pq.png 15:45 < mkillebrew> you don't have to pay a fee to pay your taxes, you pay a fee to have someone elese help you pay your taxes 15:46 <+MillerBOSS> OS https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-04-09-08-46-25-A0.png 15:46 < mkillebrew> You think doing OCR with a camera pointed at my typewriter is taking mechanical keyboards too far? 15:47 <+MillerBOSS> >Blackberry 15:47 <+MillerBOSS> Really? 15:47 < `Nerobro> no 15:51 < Trapdoor> discover weekly is fucking with me 15:51 <+MillerBOSS> Holy fuck I would not work there https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaL-gfwW4AIfEgp.jpg 15:52 < plop> MillerBOSS, because of all the mac? 15:52 < Trapdoor> I wonder exactly what data Spotify is basing their discover weekly algorithm on 15:52 <+MillerBOSS> I love Mac. Because of the open area like that 15:53 < Trapdoor> There's a high percentage of songs with drug abuse themes, specifically heroin this time 15:53 <+MillerBOSS> I'd take my computer to the closet if I had to. plop 15:53 <@JollyRgrs> MillerBOSS: that's a dumb idea 15:54 < plop> MillerBOSS, i figured because all the people, i was messing with you ;) 15:54 <@JollyRgrs> much better to wire up the typewriter... much faster response time 15:54 <+MillerBOSS> Taking my computer to the closet? 15:54 <+MillerBOSS> JollyRgrs 👉 ^ 15:54 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah I wouldn't be able to sit still for sure 15:54 <@cryptic1> morning 15:55 < plop> morning cryptic1 15:55 <@cryptic1> plop, long time no see 15:55 < tsarbomba> trapdoor, spotify bases its selections on your history 15:55 < tsarbomba> which means you are probably the subject matter of the film 'trainspotting' 15:55 < plop> cryptic1, yeah.. i'm online mostly on my mornings (now 16:00). been crazy at work 15:56 < Trapdoor> Yea but I don't do heroin tsarbomba... 15:56 < tsarbomba> mhm 15:56 < tsarbomba> and hunterkll isn't a flaming weeaboo 15:56 < Trapdoor> A lot of songs about hurting your family from alcohol addiction etc 15:56 <@JollyRgrs> plop plop, fizz fizz 15:56 < Trapdoor> for fuck's sake I've got GG Allin on my playlist 15:56 <@cryptic1> plop, yeah been busy here too 15:57 < tsarbomba> what did GG allin do a fuckton of 15:57 < Trapdoor> everything 15:57 < tsarbomba> besides shitting himself 15:57 <@JollyRgrs> ok, for joining a skype interview... how early is too early? 15:57 < Trapdoor> fighting the audience 15:57 < plop> hehe 15:57 < Trapdoor> while smeared in shit 15:57 < Trapdoor> his own shit 15:57 < Trapdoor> he did a lot of heroin 15:57 < tsarbomba> 3 minutes is the accepted lead time 15:57 <@JollyRgrs> so now 15:57 <@JollyRgrs> gotcha 15:57 < tsarbomba> nod 15:57 < tsarbomba> what kind of work are you interviewing for 15:58 < Trapdoor> he specifically requested not to have his dead body washed before his funeral 15:58 < Trapdoor> so the entire funeral home smelled like caked junkie shit 15:58 < Trapdoor> godspeel you beautiful soul 15:58 <@JollyRgrs> same job, just broader scope 15:58 < tsarbomba> if you're gonna party, party 15:58 < estranger> JollyRgrs, dude i always try to join ~2-3 min early... you get the best stuff before/after meetings 15:58 < tsarbomba> sweet GL jollyrgrs 15:58 <@JollyRgrs> thx 15:58 < estranger> oh interview.. yeah still 2-3min early 15:59 <@JollyRgrs> estranger: meetings, i'm lucky if i have the chance to join on time 15:59 < tsarbomba> we've got corporate coming in at some point today. i'm hoping to avoid contact 15:59 <@JollyRgrs> b/c every other back to back meeting scheduled gives no lead time and alwaysruns late 15:59 < estranger> yeah i got some back to back stuff today that im not quite sure how im going to do 16:00 <@JollyRgrs> my whole morning until lunch was packed 16:00 < estranger> webex meeting that ends at :00 and an in person meeting that starts at :00 16:00 <@JollyRgrs> not 5 min free 16:00 < estranger> so im going to drive to the meeting location early, take the meeting in my car.. hope it ends 5-10min early and walk to my in person meeting 16:00 < estranger> their security takes a while too... gotta take my picture etc, its silly 16:00 <@JollyRgrs> estranger: i've had good luck with mobile webex 16:01 < estranger> yeah ill setup my hotspot + laptop.. think ill be presenting slides lol 16:01 <@JollyRgrs> haha 16:01 < estranger> and its "bluejeans" for us not webex but no ones heard of bluejeans 16:01 <@JollyRgrs> heard of what? 16:01 <@JollyRgrs> :P 16:01 < estranger> bluej.... fuckyou 16:01 <@JollyRgrs> i think i've heard it once before.... most likely from you 16:01 <@JollyRgrs> never used it though 16:02 < estranger> its not bad.. i mean, all web conf software sucks 16:02 < kepler> i like bluejeans and zoom. they work on linux 16:02 < kepler> and google meet 16:02 < estranger> biggest issue with bluejeans is lots of corps have it blocked because its not well known enough 16:03 <@JollyRgrs> but they know it well enough to block it? 16:03 < felda> JollyRgrs doesn't actually wear any clothes he just wraps a blanket around his body 16:03 < estranger> lots of places are whitelists 16:03 < estranger> or using 3rd party categorizing tools to filter traffic 16:04 < felda> once quoted as saying "Ghandi is my favorite artist" 16:04 <@JollyRgrs> ugh 16:04 <@JollyRgrs> stupid waiting 16:05 < estranger> so my sales guy just missed two meetings.... 16:05 < estranger> hope hes not ded 16:05 < kepler> he's as ded as hillary duff RIP 16:05 < abakedapplepie> hillary duff is dead? 16:05 < abakedapplepie> oh wait thats a meme isnt it 16:06 < estranger> i cant keep up, as i am an old man 16:06 < tsarbomba> webex claims to have a working web interface for linux machines but every one i've tried it on just...doesn't 16:06 < kepler> i haven't tried in a long while 16:06 < estranger> i only use a real OS 16:06 < estranger> :o 16:07 < tsarbomba> RIP hilary duff and lindsay lohan 16:07 < arlion> tsarbomba: it's hella hella hella specific in the packages that are documented somewhere. 16:07 < arlion> tsarbomba: i'v never gotten it to work. 16:07 < tsarbomba> i went digging around and couldn't find any additional info 16:07 < arlion> it required hacking several packages together and I was like fuck that 16:07 < tsarbomba> of course this was literally 5 minutes before a webex 16:07 < tsarbomba> i had to run to our server room and fire up a windows management machine. froze my ass off for 90 minutes on a pointless conference. 16:08 < tsarbomba> ever since that day i've kept a hoodie at that desk 16:08 < felda> cryptic1 enjoys playing Fortnite because he's really good at building walls between himself and everyone around him. 16:08 < tsarbomba> damn felda went there 16:08 < abakedapplepie> lol 16:09 < arlion> felda: if I was a op, I would give you voice for that rekt. 16:11 < felda> killdash9 's favorite move is Cats the Musical 16:11 < felda> s/move/movie 16:11 <+layer-eight> felda meant: "killdash9 's favorite movie is Cats the Musical" 16:12 < Trapdoor> fortnite? isn't that just pubg for babies? 16:12 < felda> nah it's a different game pretty much 16:13 < felda> It's Minecraft with guns 16:13 < Trapdoor> does it contain 100 players battling on an island with an ever-shrinking circle that damages you when you're outside of it? 16:14 < felda> oooweee every battle royal game is the same ayyyy lmao 16:14 < Trapdoor> do you spawn in a flying vehicle and jump out in a parachute? 16:14 < JFDkthx> felda: why you never come back to play 16:14 < felda> the building aspect pretty much changes it up enough 16:15 < felda> but I was playing the Tequila Sunrise event with my friends 16:15 < Trapdoor> so it's like pubg but every game ends a couple of guys making the tallest nerdpole possible? 16:15 < JFDkthx> bro, who are your real friends. people you know irl, some irc retards 16:16 < JFDkthx> Trapdoor: those people get killed first 16:16 < Casteil> Trapdoor: building like that is a bad idea because if the link to the ground is severed you fall to the ground 16:16 < JFDkthx> i specifically look for people in their shit shacks 16:16 < Casteil> I don't play fortnite battlegrounds or w/e they call it but I have played fortnite 16:16 < JFDkthx> Hatter: fortnite is cool again, you can stop being such a passive bystander 16:17 < hxcsp> fortnite single player/coop is fun 16:18 < Casteil> https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-UAP-AC-PRO-Access-Included/dp/B079DSW6XX/ < Damn that's a good price for a UAP-AC-PRO 16:18 < hxcsp> oh damn 85 bucks 16:18 < alazare619> anyone watch ready player one? 16:18 < alazare619> also WRESTLEMANIA WAS SICCCCCCCK 16:18 < alazare619> undertaker destroyed john cena 16:18 < alazare619> in under 3 minutes 16:19 < alazare619> entrance and exit of the undertaker was longer than the actual match 16:19 < Trapdoor> "ERR_CONTENT_DECODING_FAILED" on iDRAC 6 16:19 < Trapdoor> Nice 16:19 < Casteil> I'm really tempted buy my Meraki stuff still has at least a year of subscription 16:19 < Casteil> so I shouldn't throw $85 at an AP I don't really need right now 16:19 < hxcsp> this doesnt come with the poe adapter, which might be why its a little cheaper 16:20 < Casteil> it's like $40 cheaper than avg 16:20 < hxcsp> I have 3 regular Unifi AP's for the whole 3 floor building 16:20 < grumplestiltzkin> does undertaker still wear robes or trenchcoat or whatever and wear the hat? 16:20 < hxcsp> and it works perfectly 16:21 < Casteil> I registered my Meraki MR18 in august 2016 so I still have about 1.5 yrs left 16:21 < grumplestiltzkin> he has to be close to 50 at this point 16:21 < Casteil> definitely should not buy an $85 ap right now :X 16:21 < Casteil> especially since my phone just bit the dust 16:22 < felda> alazare619 ready play one was good I liked it 16:22 < Trapdoor> "The firmware version to be flashed is incompatible with this server. The iDRAC6 must be reset to return to normal operating mode." 16:22 < Trapdoor> Nice 16:23 < arlion> whoops 16:23 < Trapdoor> doesn't help that I forgot the password for the CMC 16:23 < Trapdoor> no wait I've got it 16:27 < JFDkthx> felda: you would like rpo 16:27 < felda> yeah 16:27 < felda> It's not very difficult to please me 16:27 < JFDkthx> you meemlord 16:28 < felda> I'd have to watch it more to see more references 16:28 < felda> in the credits they had to thank over 30 companies for the rights to show their characters lol 16:29 < asimon> Has anyone else had issues with the Dell USB-C to ethernet adapters? 16:29 < asimon> Mine keep cooking and melting 16:29 < Casteil> asimon: that seems like a common thing for usb-c adapters 16:29 < Trapdoor> So apparently iDRAC 7 lets you upload .exe but idrac 6 has you extract it yourself 16:29 < Trapdoor> Nice 16:30 < felda> from what I've ready USB-C is a complete shit-show and no one follows the power standards 16:30 < felda> what I've read* 16:30 < asimon> Good to know its not just me 16:30 < aName> Does anyone know if there's a REST endpoint in RequestTracker that allows me to manage group memberships? 16:30 < Casteil> felda: I'd agree with that general sentiment 16:31 < asimon> I thought it was my desk switch putting out too much current for POE or some shit 16:31 < Casteil> I don't really care for the connectors either 16:31 < asimon> But it still smells funny when plugged directly into the wall instead 16:31 < vinrock> i like the connectors 16:31 < vinrock> feels nice to plug in 16:31 < Casteil> the usb-c connector on Nexus 5x seemed to lose its "cable holding" power after just a few months of use 16:31 < vinrock> well thats whack 16:32 < tsarbomba> huh? 16:32 < Casteil> I've always liked the lightning connectors because they're so solid and stout feeling by comparison 16:32 < aName> I see /REST/1.0/user//edit 16:32 < tsarbomba> my 5x has never had a problem 16:32 < Trapdoor> My only problem with USB-C is the same one I had with Micro when they were new 16:32 < abakedapplepie> lightning is indeed bae 16:32 < Trapdoor> Don't have enough USB-C cables 16:32 < abakedapplepie> so robust 16:32 < Casteil> no tiny little wafer to break in the cable or in the phone itself 16:32 < tsarbomba> lol lightning 16:32 < abakedapplepie> hey lets shit on lightning because its apple 16:32 < aName> Heh, I broke one of those USB wafers this weekend 16:32 < Casteil> tsarbomba: eh, I think mine was one of the early ones 16:32 < Casteil> but, w/e 16:32 < tsarbomba> appledorks are like little kids trying to impress their big brothers 16:32 < JFDkthx> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqtNleXhTRE&t=453s 16:32 <+layer-eight> YouTube Is USB Type-C ACTUALLY Stronger?? Durability Test by 2017-06-06T20:31:16.000Z (duration: 9:s) on Wed Jun 07 03:31:16 UTC 2017, 2017-06-06T20:31:16.000Z views 16:32 < Casteil> tsarbomba: my Nexus 5x literally just died yesterday :\ 16:32 < aName> was charging my pile of note 3s to chck their ESN 16:32 < JFDkthx> well 16:33 < abakedapplepie> nevermind that its an objectively superior connector 16:33 < abakedapplepie> we are gonna be dicks about it 16:33 < JFDkthx> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqtNleXhTRE 16:33 < tsarbomba> "look we don't have USB but we have this proprietary shit that snaps at the drop of an eyelash!" 16:33 <+layer-eight> YouTube Is USB Type-C ACTUALLY Stronger?? Durability Test by 2017-06-06T20:31:16.000Z (duration: 9:s) on Wed Jun 07 03:31:16 UTC 2017, 2017-06-06T20:31:16.000Z views 16:33 < JFDkthx> fuck it 16:33 < Casteil> messaged a coworker on slack on my way to lunch then phone wouldn't respond to anything a few hours later :( 16:34 < tsarbomba> i charge mine every so often to act as an emergency backup just in case my current phone shits itself. it's a little slow under 8.0 but it does the job 16:34 < tsarbomba> i'll probably just let it rot after i get a new phone 16:35 < Casteil> I've been pretty happy with my 5x overall 16:36 < Casteil> not super happy that it just suddenly decided to stop working out of the blue yesterday though :\ 16:36 < Casteil> I got it to the recovery menu ONCE, tried a normal boot, and haven't been able to get it to do anything since 16:36 < JFDkthx> Casteil: have you tried turning it off and back on? 16:37 < aName> I've got 5x Samsung Note 3s by the way 16:37 < aName> Should really do something with them 16:38 <+MillerBOSS> Make a fire 16:38 < Casteil> ended up ordering a Moto X4 last night as a result 16:39 < Heresiarch> wow. Moto's still making the x4? 16:39 < aName> MillerBOSS: Well, gazelle will give me 35 bucks each 16:39 < aName> MillerBOSS: But I can probably get double that in private sales 16:39 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah and or eBay/Amazon 16:39 < aName> But then I have to deal with the sort of people who buy phones five generations old lol 16:40 < abakedapplepie> nah 16:41 < Casteil> Heresiarch: er, it's pretty new 16:41 < Trapdoor> god forbid people have economic sense 16:41 < Casteil> or at least this one 16:41 < Casteil> Moto X4 was released in September 2017 16:41 < Heresiarch> Casteil: ah, last year. For some reason I thought it was 2016. 16:42 < Casteil> so about 6 months old 16:42 < aName> I wish I had called in today. 16:42 < Casteil> I'd mulled over the idea of updating my phone when it came out (I'm on Google Fi with a nexus 5x) but then decided I'd just wait til my 5x died 16:42 < aName> My coworker is out of town and I didn't want to leave my boss hanging, but I really should be at home right now 16:43 <+MillerBOSS> I wish Google Fi worked with iPhones 16:43 < abakedapplepie> me too kinda 16:43 < DrGibby|> not me 16:43 < abakedapplepie> does fi do tethering 16:43 < Trapdoor> wait what... can someone explain why I'm seeing load averages of 12+ on a 12-core system with no load? 16:43 < Trapdoor> IO wait? 16:43 < abakedapplepie> Trapdoor: are you sure theres no load 16:43 < DrGibby|> if you don't have a google product then you shouldn't get google service 16:43 < tsarbomba> lolwat 16:44 <+MillerBOSS> But isn't it still $10 per 1GB? 16:44 < tsarbomba> people pay $70 for ancient phones? 16:44 < Heresiarch> Trapdoor: try writing to a file. 16:44 < Trapdoor> abakedapplepie, top shows collectd as top user 16:44 < abakedapplepie> huh 16:44 < DrGibby|> Trapdoor: running as root? 16:44 < abakedapplepie> does top report usage at 12+ at the same time? 16:44 < abakedapplepie> or did you see 12 somewhere else 16:44 < Trapdoor> yea DrGibby| 16:44 < Trapdoor> no problem writing a file Heresiarch 16:44 < DrGibby|> just making sure :) 16:44 < Trapdoor> yea abakedapplepie top is reporting 12+ 16:44 < abakedapplepie> odd 16:44 < Heresiarch> Trapdoor: ...stop collectd? 16:44 < Trapdoor> I can't run df 16:44 < tsarbomba> >claims no load 16:44 < tsarbomba> >top shows load of 12 16:45 < abakedapplepie> you got a rootkit :P 16:45 < tsarbomba> hax0red by felda 16:45 < Trapdoor> wouldn't make sense abakedapplepie, this is 1/10 blades 16:45 < Trapdoor> why would someone rootkit this one but not all the other ones? 16:45 < abakedapplepie> it is an io problem, a felda.io problem 16:45 * MillerBOSS slaps DrGibby| around a bit with a large trout 16:46 < Trapdoor> can't ssh to it either, virtual console through idrac 16:46 * DrGibby| enjoys it 16:46 * MillerBOSS slaps DrGibby| around a bit with a large trout 16:46 * MillerBOSS slaps DrGibby| around a bit with a large trout 16:46 < DrGibby|> :3 16:46 < abakedapplepie> Trapdoor: raid healthy? 16:46 < Heresiarch> Trapdoor: how did you test writing the file? touch, or dd ? 16:46 <+MillerBOSS> Jut to throw you off the scent Trapdoor 16:46 < Trapdoor> no raid abakedapplepie 16:46 < Trapdoor> Heresiarch, touch dicks 16:46 < Trapdoor> then nano dicks 16:46 < Trapdoor> then I wrote "test" to dicks 16:46 < DrGibby|> kek 16:46 < abakedapplepie> smart status? bad motherboard? shit config? 16:46 < DrGibby|> bad procs? 16:47 < abakedapplepie> wipe and reprovision 16:47 < Heresiarch> Trapdoor: local disk, or vm mounted from NAS/SAN? 16:47 < abakedapplepie> set fire to the DC 16:47 < abakedapplepie> call insurance 16:47 < Trapdoor> local disk, I've seen a similar one fail 16:47 < abakedapplepie> go home 16:47 < DrGibby|> abakedapplepie++++ 16:47 < DrGibby|> make sure to disable the fire suppression in the colo though 16:47 < abakedapplepie> yeah you dont want cancer 16:47 < Heresiarch> Trapdoor: could well be the case here. Do you see any oom killer messages? 16:47 < Trapdoor> wait a minute... 16:49 < Trapdoor> nope, nothing 16:49 < Trapdoor> what the fuck 16:50 < Trapdoor> fuck it, rebooting 16:50 < Heresiarch> at least get dmesg beforehand... 16:50 < Trapdoor> collectd having issues stopping lol 16:54 < Wannabejrsysadm> boyz 16:54 < Wannabejrsysadm> anyone good with GPO's ? 16:54 < Trapdoor> what is a GPO? 16:55 < Doorcellar> Wannabejrsysadm: Ask away 16:55 < Wannabejrsysadm> Gay People Own 16:55 < asimon> I think its Global Positioning Orientation 16:55 < Wannabejrsysadm> Gay Penis Oral 16:55 < Trapdoor> gay people do own 16:55 <@Code_Man65> Group Policy Object 16:55 < Heresiarch> Trapdoor: Microsoft's version of config mgmt, but mostly for desktops. 16:55 <@Code_Man65> Stop trolling 16:55 < Trapdoor> Heresiarch, hi you must be new here 16:55 < Trapdoor> I'm Trapdoor, and I make jokes 16:56 < DrGibby|> Code_Man65: can I have my +v back? 16:56 < DrGibby|> <3 16:56 < Trapdoor> Code_Man65, making jokes isn't the same as trolling 16:56 < DrGibby|> :O 16:56 < Heresiarch> Trapdoor: *shrug* there are actually linux admins who wonder about these things. 16:56 < DrGibby|> D: 16:56 < Trapdoor> can I have his voice Code_Man65? 16:56 < Wannabejrsysadm> Sooo the previous admin had the printers setup so they were deployed with a group in active directroy attached to a GPO 16:56 < Wannabejrsysadm> but a windows update broke it 16:56 < tsarbomba> yeah but aren't jokes supposed to be, you know... 16:56 < tsarbomba> ...funny? 16:56 < Wannabejrsysadm> so he deployed all printers to everyone 16:56 < Wannabejrsysadm> but never fixed it 16:56 < Trapdoor> thanks 16:56 < Wannabejrsysadm> now i'm trying to figure out this mess 16:56 < Trapdoor> tsarbomba, if you don't think I'm funny you can go to hell 16:57 < DrGibby|> Wannabejrsysadm: I would start by looking at the GPOs that deal with printers 16:57 < Wannabejrsysadm> Well its weird 16:57 <@Code_Man65> gpresult /h c:\results.html from an elevated cmd prompt on any affected system 16:57 < tsarbomba> funny-looking, maybe? 16:57 < tsarbomba> seems like a fair compromise 16:58 < asimon> Wannabejrsysadm: I actually just had to deploy a printer via GPO for the same reason, lemme look for it 16:58 < Wannabejrsysadm> if you look at to what groups the printer is deployed to it says: "NAME PRINTER GROUP" and "DOMAINCOMPUTERS" 16:58 < Wannabejrsysadm> if i jjust take out DOMAINCOMPUTERS 16:58 < Wannabejrsysadm> it should work I think 16:58 < Wannabejrsysadm> lel 16:58 < tsarbomba> check for the existence of that other group first 16:58 < tsarbomba> and make sure if you test RSOP against it everything looks right 16:58 < Wannabejrsysadm> RSOP ? 16:59 <@Code_Man65> RSOP isn't reliable 16:59 < tsarbomba> resultant set of policy 16:59 < aName> Resultant Set Of PO... 16:59 <@Code_Man65> Only gpresult /h is 16:59 < DrGibby|> Code_Man65+++ 16:59 < tsarbomba> no but it won't show you that all systems are affected if they aren't 16:59 < tsarbomba> and it should at least show the correct GPO under that group 16:59 < Doorcellar> I use gpresult /h myself 16:59 < tsarbomba> when filtering 16:59 < tsarbomba> yeah there's no reason not to,since it appears the GPO is already applied 16:59 <@Code_Man65> Unless you are wanting audit policy info then auditpol is your only friend 16:59 < tsarbomba> you may also need to /force the update once you change it 17:00 < Wannabejrsysadm> tsarbomba problem is i just can't take out domaincomputers out of all the rpinters 17:00 < Wannabejrsysadm> else everyone loses their printers 17:00 < Wannabejrsysadm> and i'l get a hott mess 17:02 < tsarbomba> this doesn't sound like something you can blame on a windows update 17:02 < dbcc> shakygator, read your fuckin texts 17:02 < grumplestiltzkin> are you not in a hot mess right now? 17:02 <+MillerBOSS> dbcc 👉 read your texts 17:03 <+MillerBOSS> ;) 17:03 < tsarbomba> millerboss stop using nonstandard characters and read your texts 17:03 <+MillerBOSS> But I am a nonstandard character. 17:03 < tsarbomba> you are Typical Stepdad Character #4 17:04 < tsarbomba> i can hear you playing foreigner records right now 17:04 <+MillerBOSS> lol 17:04 <+MillerBOSS> Hot blooded 17:04 < AnimalFarmPig> I've got a fever of a hundred degrees 17:04 < AnimalFarmPig> so, I'm staying home from work today 17:04 < tsarbomba> sounds exciting 17:05 < AnimalFarmPig> or were the lyrics "I've got a fever of a hundred and three"? :/ 17:05 < DrGibby|> I thought AnimalFarmPig was starting to sing Hot Blooded for a moment 17:05 < DrGibby|> its 103, iirc 17:05 <@JollyRgrs> i got a fever of a hundred and three 17:05 < AnimalFarmPig> damn, hundred and three 17:05 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah 17:06 < AnimalFarmPig> mine isn't that bad 17:06 < tsarbomba> death is imminent for you both 17:06 < DrGibby|> whats 3 degrees? 17:06 * DrGibby| shrugs 17:06 < tsarbomba> animalfarmpig b/c he's burning up and drgibby for singing foreigner :( 17:06 <@JollyRgrs> DrGibby|: ask 98 Degrees... they didn't pick 95 or 101 for some reason 17:06 <@JollyRgrs> i dunno why 17:06 < DrGibby|> :( 17:06 * DrGibby| kicks JollyRgrs 17:06 < DrGibby|> we dont talk about that group here 17:07 <@JollyRgrs> DrGibby|: what? i got their Christmas album 17:07 < grumplestiltzkin> fun fact: 103/104ish is where you should start taking medication to reduce fever. below that and you are hindering your body fighting off the gunk 17:07 * DrGibby| shudders 17:07 <@JollyRgrs> parents gave it to me one year as a stocking stuffer... i was like "wtf?" lol 17:07 <@JollyRgrs> i mean... santa did 17:07 < DrGibby|> yes, Santa 17:07 < Heresiarch> JollyRgrs: ...your parents gave you...Foreigner? 17:07 < DrGibby|> we don't want to disappoint all of the young boys and girls here 17:07 < DrGibby|> like MillerBOSS 17:07 <@JollyRgrs> Heresiarch: no... 98 degrees 17:07 <@JollyRgrs> if it was foreigner, i would not complain 17:08 < Heresiarch> JollyRgrs: ah. Slightly more understandable, if also more horrific. 17:08 <+MillerBOSS> Uhh aren't I older than you DrGibby| ? 17:08 < DrGibby|> MillerBOSS: no, you're a kiddo 17:08 < DrGibby|> BECAUSE I SAY YOU ARE 17:08 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah 17:08 < grumplestiltzkin> DrGibby| thinks all records should be rebecca black 17:08 <@JollyRgrs> Heresiarch: indeed. tbh though... their Christmas album isn't terrible 17:09 < DrGibby|> grumplestiltzkin: that I can't disagree with 17:09 < DrGibby|> JollyRgrs: you listened to it?! 17:09 <@JollyRgrs> heck yeah! 17:09 < Heresiarch> JollyRgrs: ...you do you, fam. 17:10 <@JollyRgrs> if it ain't country, i can usually at least tolerate 17:10 <@JollyRgrs> and with classic Christmas songs, only the worst can really mess it up 17:10 * DrGibby| sings Garth Brooks 17:10 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FmQ_aRh0oE 17:10 <+layer-eight> YouTube Foreigner - Hot Blooded (Live at Farm Aid 1985) by 2013-01-22T18:58:50.000Z (duration: 2:11) on Wed Jan 23 01:58:50 UTC 2013, 2013-01-22T18:58:50.000Z views 17:10 < Wannabejrsysadm> A printer GPO should it be Userbased or Computerbased ? 17:11 <+MillerBOSS> Home is where you make it 17:11 < tsarbomba> millerboss loves an ode to a strip club 17:11 <@Code_Man65> Yes Wannabejrsysadm 17:11 < tsarbomba> in his pickup truck he has "girls, girls, girls" on repeat 17:11 < Wannabejrsysadm> Code_Man65 D: computer or user ? 17:11 < Casteil> haha 17:11 < Casteil> yeesssssss 17:11 < Wannabejrsysadm> cuz mine is AND atm 17:11 < DrGibby|> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0_der_5hRM 17:11 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah 17:11 <+layer-eight> YouTube Friends in low places lyrics Garth Brooks by 2015-01-10T16:46:31.000Z (duration: 4:28) on Sat Jan 10 23:46:31 UTC 2015, 2015-01-10T16:46:31.000Z views 17:12 < Casteil> one good thing coming out of my phone dying - my boss just asked me if I have a phone stipend and is now offering one 17:12 < grumplestiltzkin> red lips, finger tips 17:12 <@Code_Man65> Wannabejrsysadm: Honest opinion? It should be site based so that when a user with a laptop goes to another site they automatically have the printers for that site 17:12 <@Code_Man65> And I'd make it user based in that setup 17:12 < Wannabejrsysadm> aight thnx 17:13 < grumplestiltzkin> IIRC one of the band members tried to sell the rights to the song actually to "the doll house" (in Ft Lauterdale) 17:14 < tsarbomba> there's no such thing as "the doll house" 17:15 < tsarbomba> well, scratch that. there was no such thing as the doll house in fort lauderdale 17:17 < tsarbomba> today's "you feel old" moment: "girls, girls, girls" was released 31 years ago. 17:20 < tsarbomba> slackware status report, dragonfleas? 17:20 < grumplestiltzkin> hm - yeah, looks like they were in orlando and myrtle beach 17:20 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, couldn't get it to boot on my PC 17:20 < tsarbomba> there was one near pompano beach back in the day 17:20 < dragonfleas> i'm going to wait till I get a dell laptop in 17:20 < tsarbomba> betcha they got so drunk they didn't know which city they were in 17:20 < tsarbomba> dragonfleas that is not a good start 17:21 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, lmao 17:21 < dragonfleas> i was really focused on getting osticket mailing working on saturday 17:21 < dragonfleas> i still cannot figure it out 17:21 < DrGibby|> dragonfleas: its kinda a pita 17:21 < dragonfleas> php has a built in mailer, all i should have to do is allow the mail to come through locally 17:21 < dragonfleas> but it won't 17:21 < DrGibby|> but once its up and running its not too bad 17:21 < grumplestiltzkin> or ft lauderdale fit the lyrics. probably a little off culumn A nad a little of column B 17:22 < DrGibby|> fuck we had the same issue 17:22 < DrGibby|> but its been so long now that I forgot what we did in order for it to work 17:22 < dragonfleas> DrGibby|, i'm going crazy man, I've spent probably a total of like 13 hours troubleshooting 17:22 < dragonfleas> i also don't have linux experience really so i'm like going in completely blind 17:23 < DrGibby|> dragonfleas: I completely understand. If I was in the office I could pull our config 17:23 < DrGibby|> we had to do something with the actual mail application on the vm 17:23 < DrGibby|> not just the phpmailer 17:23 < grumplestiltzkin> Oh, here we go. http://wikimapia.org/12747235/The-Dollhouse the location in the song was in "Sunny Isles Beach" 17:24 < dragonfleas> DrGibby|, i don't have a mail application 17:24 < dragonfleas> i'm just trying to relay through exchange 17:25 < DrGibby|> right 17:25 < dragonfleas> wait 17:25 < dragonfleas> maybe this is a firewall issue 17:25 < DrGibby|> we had to install/configure something in order it to relay it through 17:25 < dragonfleas> does ubuntu server come with a preconfigured firewall? 17:26 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: yes (ufw), but it usually only blocks inbound connections. 17:26 < dragonfleas> hmmmmm 17:26 < dragonfleas> i wonder if it's blocking the apache user 17:26 < dragonfleas> someone on the osticket forums said my error may point to that being the culprit 17:27 < Heresiarch> afaik, firewall config isn't user-based (typically by IP/network). 17:28 < estranger> is iptables smart enough for user based network acls? 17:28 < Heresiarch> don't think so. 17:29 < Heresiarch> selinux might be a block, but that's not firewalling. 17:29 < estranger> is mail coming from external? lots of ISPs block 25/tcp for you :) 17:30 <+MillerBOSS> I've been waiting 17:31 < DrGibby|> for all my life 17:31 <+MillerBOSS> For a girl like DrGibby| 17:31 < DrGibby|> >.> 17:31 < tsarbomba> :O 17:32 <+MillerBOSS> Thanks a lot tsarbomba for getting me on this Foreigner kick 17:32 < tsarbomba> i can't think of anything more suited for a juke box hero 17:33 < tsarbomba> sunny isles beach? damn, the band got pretty far away from the sportatorium 17:33 < tsarbomba> i guess when you're keyed up from the feet up you don't notice where the limo driver goes 17:33 <+giant_it_burrit> alazare619: hows your computer 17:33 <+giant_it_burrit> does it have enough power? 17:34 < JFDkthx> fell asleep during the conference call 17:34 < JFDkthx> oops 17:34 < alazare619> yea giant_it_burrit seems to work ok 17:34 < tsarbomba> lol 17:34 < alazare619> giant_it_burrit: put it through a few games and seeing good FPS 17:34 <+giant_it_burrit> as expected :) 17:34 < alazare619> the one that was in my pc afte ri pulled it out i realized why it wsa probably fps dropping 17:34 < tsarbomba> not sure if it's worse that nobody noticed than it would be if someone did 17:34 < JFDkthx> tsarbomba: im wfh and it's a big call. 17:35 < alazare619> the fan bearing ceased up 17:35 < alazare619> took a 60mm fan and some zip ties and make a new one and stuck it into my sons PC lmao 17:35 < tsarbomba> too much clove smoke? 17:35 < DrGibby|> heh 17:36 < tsarbomba> i remember seeing a buddy's micro tower with a box fan next to the open side acting as a case fan 17:36 < tsarbomba> you do what you gotta 17:37 < DrGibby|> tsarbomba: oh shit that reminds me of my buddy from years ago 17:37 < DrGibby|> full tower case, box fan on high to game 17:37 < JFDkthx> tsarbomba: we've all done that 17:37 < tsarbomba> i've never used a box fan. i once used a desk fan after i cooked my 120mm case fan 17:37 < tsarbomba> i kept bumping the damn "oscillate" switch though 17:38 < DrGibby|> heh 17:38 < JFDkthx> were those the days, when cases had like a single 60mm fan in the back for exhaust 17:38 < JFDkthx> werent* 17:38 < JFDkthx> now i've got like 3 200mm fans, and 4 120s 17:39 < DrGibby|> I just sink mine into water 17:39 < JFDkthx> DrGibby|: careful you'll trigger precise|tinfoil 17:39 < estranger> \ 17:39 < DrGibby|> why did you highlight him, then? 17:40 < JFDkthx> to do just that 17:40 < DrGibby|> -_- 17:40 < JFDkthx> i doubt hes here 17:40 < JFDkthx> abakedapplepie: has kept him locked away 17:41 < abakedapplepie> i am doing nothing of the sort 17:41 < abakedapplepie> also hes no longer my coworker 17:41 < JFDkthx> oh 17:41 < abakedapplepie> he quit a few weeks ago 17:41 < JFDkthx> i knew he went on vacay a while back 17:41 < DrGibby|> "Zed, yeah, the spider just caught a couple flies" 17:41 < abakedapplepie> on to bigger and better things i hope 17:41 < JFDkthx> speaking of quitters McDonaldsWiFi you get a new job yet 17:41 < JFDkthx> you bum 17:42 < tsarbomba> i believe the last anybody heard precise was fleeing from "the black helicopters" 17:42 < DrGibby|> DUUUUUUUUDE 17:42 <+MillerBOSS> SWEEEEEET 17:42 < JFDkthx> s/ helicopters/ 17:42 <+layer-eight> tsarbomba meant: "i believe the last anybody heard precise was fleeing from "the black"" 17:42 < DrGibby|> DUUUUUUUUDE 17:42 < tsarbomba> kenrin, is that you 17:42 <+MillerBOSS> SWEEEEEEET 17:43 < JFDkthx> i wonder how well that movie has aged 17:43 <+giant_it_burrit> anyone use dell omsa? 17:43 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMuGjeoS3qI 17:43 <+layer-eight> YouTube Dude, Where's My Car - Tattoo scene by 2012-04-27T16:39:36.000Z (duration: 1:06) on Fri Apr 27 23:39:36 UTC 2012, 2012-04-27T16:39:36.000Z views 17:43 < dbcc> yes 17:44 < estranger> ohno, IT, help! just dumped coffee all over my laptop :D 17:44 < JFDkthx> giant_it_burrit: yes 17:44 < estranger> then in my panic I tossed my spilling coffee cup to the side, and it dumped on my backup drive 17:44 <+giant_it_burrit> JFDkthx: thoughts? 17:44 <+giant_it_burrit> any perks 17:44 < JFDkthx> estranger: stop typing on it, go outside and spray it off with a hose 17:44 < AnimalFarmPig> hmmm.... Dude Where's My Car seems like the perfect thing to watch on a sick day 17:45 < AnimalFarmPig> such a good movie 17:45 < estranger> JFDkthx, lol 17:45 < estranger> JFDkthx, think its ok.. i powered it off, drained all the coffee out.. seems ok 17:45 < estranger> smells nice 17:45 < JFDkthx> giant_it_burrit it's p great. 17:45 <+giant_it_burrit> why 17:45 < JFDkthx> we have it on every server 17:45 < JFDkthx> winders and linux 17:45 <+giant_it_burrit> what does it do for you tl:dr 17:45 < DrGibby|> windy winderz 17:45 < tsarbomba> s/Dude Where's My Car/How High 17:45 <+layer-eight> AnimalFarmPig meant: "hmmm.... How High seems like the perfect thing to watch on a sick day" 17:46 < JFDkthx> because i dont like walking to my dc, or driving to the fourn buildings i have oversight of 17:46 < JFDkthx> remote console for one. hardware alerts 17:46 < JFDkthx> yeah thats pretty much all i need it to do 17:49 < dragonfleas> if you use apt to install packages 17:49 < dragonfleas> how do you install apt? 17:49 < dragonfleas> *hits blunt* 17:50 < Markisking> pip 17:51 <+MillerBOSS> Radio? Who needs a radio 17:51 < DrGibby|> dragonfleas: by compiling it from sause you fucking nerd 17:51 < dragonfleas> what is s a u s e 17:52 < AnimalFarmPig> tsarbomba: couldn't find Dude Where's My Car in my video folder. Looking at alternatives now. I do have Half-Baked. "House Party" with Kid and Play. Also every Yahoo Serious movie. 17:52 * dragonfleas calls to the god cryptic1 to come down from the heavens and bless us with layer-eight 17:52 < JFDkthx> dragonfleas: no 17:52 < JFDkthx> cryptic1: get back to work 17:52 < JFDkthx> he busy 17:52 < JFDkthx> leave him alone 17:53 < DrGibby|> why does everyone bother him so much :( 17:53 < DrGibby|> its work hours 17:54 < DrGibby|> poor guy is just trying to collect a paycheck so he can supply us more r-s lootboxes 17:54 < JFDkthx> that is his work 17:54 < JFDkthx> he makes the lootboxes by hand 17:54 < JFDkthx> each individually crafted with love 17:54 < JFDkthx> the love for money 17:55 < dragonfleas> we should all get a donation pile together and pay cryptic1 to just be a mod in the chan 17:55 < DrGibby|> a patreon or something 17:55 <@cryptic1> morning 17:55 < Casteil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZBo2wBH0zE 17:55 <+layer-eight> YouTube Isle of Dogs - A Michael Bay film by 2017-11-02T04:57:30.000Z (duration: 15s) on Thu Nov 02 11:57:30 UTC 2017, 2017-11-02T04:57:30.000Z views 17:56 < dragonfleas> s/for money/cryptic1 17:56 <+layer-eight> JFDkthx meant: "the love cryptic1" 17:56 < DrGibby|> hi cryptic1 17:56 < Casteil> new favorite video snip 17:56 < dragonfleas> Casteil, you bastard, RIP headphone users 17:56 <@cryptic1> *sigh* how is it lunch already 17:56 < DrGibby|> Casteil: you would love youtube haiku's then 17:59 < JFDkthx> you should be glad it's lunch already 17:59 < JFDkthx> that means only 2 hours left til quittin time 17:59 < DrGibby|> da fuq kinda schedule is that? 17:59 < JFDkthx> DrGibby|: i started working at 6 18:00 < grumplestiltzkin> cryptic1: GAME ON 18:00 < JFDkthx> although the way this test is going i probably wont be done until 6 tonight 18:00 < JFDkthx> but at least i can hope for 2 18:00 < Heresiarch> JFDkthx: you're one of those morning weirdos, aren't you... 18:00 < JFDkthx> no 18:00 < JFDkthx> Heresiarch: i was aggressively pooping 18:00 < tsarbomba> s/aggressively/violently 18:00 <+layer-eight> JFDkthx meant: "Heresiarch: i was violently pooping" 18:00 < Casteil> my boss seems to be quite charitable lately haha 18:00 < JFDkthx> same same 18:00 < Heresiarch> Sounds like a shit job. 18:00 <+MillerBOSS> "It was my mistake, and I’m sorry. I started Facebook, I run it, and I’m responsible for what happens here." What a tool http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IF/IF00/20180411/108090/HHRG-115-IF00-Wstate-ZuckerbergM-20180411.pdf 18:01 < JFDkthx> Heresiarch: as long as it gives me enough time to evacuate it's aight. 18:01 < tsarbomba> "does this mean i can continue on my apology tour while raking in millions per week in fake news advertising?" 18:02 < aName> Heresiarch: "I was re-enacting the life of Louis XIV" 18:02 < Casteil> went and celebrated the 1yr anniversary since the initial (premature) launch of our in-house software project 18:02 < Casteil> (friday) 18:02 < Casteil> drank at that lunch, then went back to the office and drank more lol 18:02 < tsarbomba> anything zuck does or tries to do is going to end up being ineffective because half the country doesn't seem to care to admit that objective reality exists 18:02 <+MillerBOSS> Been doing this for years https://www.wired.com/story/why-zuckerberg-15-year-apology-tour-hasnt-fixed-facebook/ Its called go now and apologize later. 18:02 < grumplestiltzkin> JFDkthx: What will you do with the upcoming assault-poop ban? 18:02 < tsarbomba> s/go/get rich 18:02 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS meant: "Been doing this for years https://www.wired.com/story/why-zuckerberg-15-year-apology-tour-hasnt-fixed-facebook/ Its called get rich now and apologize later." 18:02 < AnimalFarmPig> I'm trying to do download one of the best movies of our time-- 1990's Men At Work, starring Emilio Estevez and Charlie Sheen, written & directed by Emilio Estevez-- and nobody is seeding :( 18:02 < tsarbomba> i have it but i'd have to upload it back to seedbox 18:02 < Casteil> and now today after mentioning my phone died he asked me if I got a phone stipend from the company (using my personal phone for work) and he just made it happen lol 18:03 < Casteil> kinda makes me wonder if he's leaving or something >.> 18:03 < AnimalFarmPig> it's okay, I'm sure someone will seed eventually 18:03 < Heresiarch> AnimalFarmPig: put out a request on usenet? 18:03 < AnimalFarmPig> meh, I'm sure it will download eventually 18:03 < JFDkthx> grumplestiltzkin: i will limit my colon so it cannot support high capacity shits 18:03 < AnimalFarmPig> it's not as if it's a super obscure movie 18:04 < Heresiarch> kinda is... 18:04 < JFDkthx> also, we should enact more stringent food background checks. 18:04 < tsarbomba> animalfarmpig wants it 1) now 2) free 3) did he mention now? 18:04 <+MillerBOSS> AnimalFarmPig 👉 Search for Men.at.Work.1990.1080p.BluRay.x264-PSYCHD 18:04 < AnimalFarmPig> just free is fine :) I suppose I could go to the library and ask them to borrow a dvd 18:04 < grumplestiltzkin> JFDkthx: that moment when the funny becomes real 18:04 < tsarbomba> IT'S A TRAP 18:04 < DrGibby|> <3 Men at Work 18:04 < DrGibby|> such a great movie 18:05 < tsarbomba> it was a lot darker than i'd figured it would be 18:05 < JFDkthx> grumplestiltzkin: we need fucking mental health support more than anything tbh 18:05 < tsarbomba> bit of a cult film now 18:05 < AnimalFarmPig> MillerBOSS: no results :P 18:05 < tsarbomba> try searching with no periosd or dashes 18:05 < tsarbomba> or just search "men at work psychd" 18:06 < AnimalFarmPig> oh, wait, I was searching TBP, I'll switch to bing 18:06 < DrGibby|> people still use tpb? 18:06 < AnimalFarmPig> thx amigos 18:07 <+MillerBOSS> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Men.at.Work.1990.1080p.BluRay.x264-PSYCHD&t=hh&ia=web 18:07 < tsarbomba> wtf no askjeeves? 18:07 <+MillerBOSS> 404 18:07 < tsarbomba> it's ask.com now 18:07 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah 404 18:08 < tsarbomba> LIES 18:08 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah 18:08 < JFDkthx> if you arent using lycos 18:08 * tsarbomba hits millerboss with a cattle prod 18:08 < JFDkthx> you arent gettin the best resuylts 18:08 < tsarbomba> babelfish ride or die 18:08 <+MillerBOSS> Shit still looks the same 18:08 < Heresiarch> metacrawler, yo. Don't limit yourself. 18:08 <+MillerBOSS> And excite 18:09 < JFDkthx> let me just look at my men at work newsgroupo 18:09 < DrGibby|> wasn't astalavista a search engine at some point too? 18:09 < JFDkthx> and i regret it 18:09 <+MillerBOSS> Oh no, http://www.excite.com/ still looks the same not Lycos 18:09 < tsarbomba> altavista 18:09 < tsarbomba> babelfish was one of their properties 18:09 < grumplestiltzkin> metacrawler was the bomb, until that early google, before they started collecting souls 18:09 < vinrock> https://i.redd.it/q856ob8rlvq01.gif 18:09 < DrGibby|> tsarbomba: there was that one and something else 18:09 < DrGibby|> I think astalavista was some kind of "deep web" search or something iirc 18:09 < JFDkthx> nah 18:10 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah 18:10 < tsarbomba> my first real business idea was to build a competing search engine named "colonplunger". it didn't take off. 18:10 < grumplestiltzkin> http://www.dogpile.com/ this is still a thing 18:10 < JFDkthx> if you still have any merch around let me know 18:10 < JFDkthx> i could use it 18:10 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, altavista was awesome because it had a big index and supported booleans 18:11 < tsarbomba> the merch was the only successful part :( 18:11 < JFDkthx> naturally 18:11 <+MillerBOSS> Wasn't it .com https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astalavista.box.sk ? 18:11 < vinrock> i was a fan of lycos 18:11 < vinrock> webcrawler sucked a dick 18:11 < JFDkthx> colonplunger.tk has a nice ring to it 18:11 < DrGibby|> MillerBOSS: YES THATS IT! 18:11 < tsarbomba> oh i remember astalavista 18:12 < AnimalFarmPig> yahoo used to be awesome. It was a curated list of websites by category. 18:12 < tsarbomba> so much keygen 18:12 < DrGibby|> Trapdoor: yeeee 18:12 <+MillerBOSS> https://web.archive.org/web/19971210063410/http://astalavista.box.sk:80/ 18:13 <+MillerBOSS> https://web.archive.org/web/20000511215923/http://astalavista.box.sk:80/ 18:13 < Heresiarch> wow. Forgot about astalvista. 18:13 < aName> AnimalFarmPig: I remember when searching was novel 18:13 < tsarbomba> veeam holding a 4pm webinar 18:13 < tsarbomba> why don't more companies do this 18:13 < AnimalFarmPig> aName: yeah, it used to be easier just to find the category on yahoo, and then check out the sites listed there. Maybe find a web ring for the topic. 18:14 < grumplestiltzkin> tsarbomba: customers only? 18:14 < tsarbomba> looks open registration 18:14 < DrGibby|> are they gifting me anything? 18:14 < DrGibby|> because my time is precious. 18:15 < grumplestiltzkin> link? their site doesnt appear to say anything 18:15 < JFDkthx> yeah 18:15 < JFDkthx> im not seeing either 18:16 <+MillerBOSS> So Veeam Backup for Microsoft Office 365 is a thing eh 18:16 < tsarbomba> that's what the webinar covers 18:17 * spstarr looks around 18:17 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.veeam.com/recorded-product-demo.html 18:17 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.veeam.com/videos/veeam-backup-for-microsoft-office-365-v15-10704.html 18:18 < DrGibby|> butwhy.gif 18:19 < DrGibby|> its in the cloud so its automagically backed up 18:19 < JFDkthx> DrGibby|: do you have generators behind your ups? 18:19 < hxcsp> whatsa ups 18:19 < DrGibby|> JFDkthx: of course 18:19 < tsarbomba> i wonder what they're going to do differently in https://www.veeam.com/product-demo/backup-microsoft-office-365-live-product-demo-3459.html 18:20 < JFDkthx> DrGibby|: so why only depend on the cloud 18:20 < tsarbomba> from every cloud a little rain must fall 18:20 < DrGibby|> JFDkthx: I get your analogy, but you're raining on my parade 18:20 < DrGibby|> pls stop 18:20 < JFDkthx> :) 18:22 < DomLS3> You're all a bunch of low life degenerate nerds 18:22 < JFDkthx> s/ow life degenerate nerds/ovely people 18:22 <+layer-eight> DomLS3 meant: "You're all a bunch of lovely people" 18:22 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah, do you have a problem with that DomLS3 ? 18:25 < DomLS3> MillerBOSS: Not at all because I am as well 18:25 <+MillerBOSS> Good enough 18:25 < DomLS3> just wanted to make sure you fucks knew it too\ 18:25 <+MillerBOSS> Damn right 18:26 < DrGibby|> DomLS3: wow man, you doing ok? Who pissed in your coffee this morning? 18:26 <+MillerBOSS> He did 18:26 < DomLS3> DrGibby|: I'm fantastic what you talking about? 18:26 < DrGibby|> jk, it was me. Eat a bag of dicks, DomLS3 18:26 < DomLS3> This is me being happy 18:26 < DomLS3> :D 18:26 < DrGibby|> :D 18:26 <+MillerBOSS> 💩 18:26 < DomLS3> DrGibby|: Only if your dick is one of the dicks in the bag 18:27 < DrGibby|> it is bby 18:27 < DomLS3> (K) 18:27 <+MillerBOSS> Its always in a bag with other dicks 18:27 < DomLS3> Msn emoji ^ 18:27 < DrGibby|> ayyy 18:27 < DrGibby|> 🧘‍♀️ 18:27 < DomLS3> might have even worked on AIM or yahoo can't remember lol 18:28 < DrGibby|> I drank too much coffee this morning 18:28 < DrGibby|> my hands are shaking 18:28 <+MillerBOSS> Wow today is BOOOOOOOORRRing 18:28 <+MillerBOSS> That is what you get 18:28 < JFDkthx> MillerBOSS: ++ 18:28 < DrGibby|> I know :( 18:28 < DrGibby|> could be the withdrawal from the booze too 18:29 < DrGibby|> jk I'm still drinking 18:29 < JFDkthx> you fooled no one 18:29 < dragonfleas> ugh, experts exchange is behind a pay wall? 18:29 <+MillerBOSS> Always has been 18:29 < DrGibby|> JFDkthx: shhhhh 18:29 < Casteil> lets see... what else do I need on my spring todo list 18:30 < DrGibby|> didn't google tell them if they did that they would remove them from the search results? 18:30 < grumplestiltzkin> EE changed though, you should be able to unhide the best answer, or like wait a minute or something 18:30 < voice> you've always been able to see the answer if you scroll far enough 18:30 <+MillerBOSS> Block that website with https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/personal-blocklist-by-goo/nolijncfnkgaikbjbdaogikpmpbdcdef dragonfleas along with tech target sites 18:30 < Casteil> clean gutters + install gutter guards possibly... gotta power wash and re-place my landscape edger stones.. 18:30 < DrGibby|> and pintrist or whatever 18:30 < DrGibby|> fucking shit website 18:30 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah that too 18:30 < JFDkthx> i thought google blocked it already 18:30 < JFDkthx> because it's behind paywall 18:31 < Casteil> pinterest always pisses me off lol 18:31 <+MillerBOSS> I hope Google blocks nothing 18:31 <+MillerBOSS> Because it is already doing that and its only going to get worse 18:31 < DrGibby|> I agree 18:31 < DrGibby|> *I* want to manage my blocks 18:31 < grumplestiltzkin> firefox has a 'bypass paywalls' extension. It might only work on news sites, not sure 18:31 <+MillerBOSS> Glad Duck duck go is still kicking. I haven't moved over there yet. 18:31 <+MillerBOSS> Right, DrGibby| 18:31 < DrGibby|> but then again we're smart enough to know whats shit and what isn't 18:32 < tapoxi> the internet is a wet fart 18:32 < DrGibby|> maybe an expert mode that doesn't block anything 18:32 <+MillerBOSS> And its still wet 18:32 < tapoxi> the internet is a wet shart 18:32 < DrGibby|> is a shart anything other than wet? 18:32 < DrGibby|> kinda like saying gay anal butt sex 18:32 < tapoxi> you can have a dry shart 18:33 < Casteil> o_o 18:33 <+MillerBOSS> You can remove the what ever you call it over with ublock origin right click block element 18:33 < Casteil> unlikely 18:33 < Casteil> but ok 18:33 <+MillerBOSS> overlay 18:33 < tapoxi> you can have nongay buttsecks 18:33 < dragonfleas> WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW 18:33 < DrGibby|> anal+butt sex 18:33 < DrGibby|> same thing 18:33 < dragonfleas> sorry for capital spam 18:33 < dragonfleas> i fucking fixed osticket emailing 18:33 < DomLS3> nongay buttsecks? 18:33 <+MillerBOSS> WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW 18:33 < DomLS3> wat? 18:33 < dragonfleas> will someone come beat the shit out of me 18:33 <+MillerBOSS> What? 18:33 < DrGibby|> dragonfleas: what was it? 18:34 < dragonfleas> DrGibby|....adding the ip to the anti-spam allow list in exchange........... 18:34 <+MillerBOSS> Operator error? 18:34 < DrGibby|> ... 18:34 <+MillerBOSS> Close to that 18:34 < dragonfleas> i added the ip in a explicit whitelist, added a relay, added the IP in every allow list i could think of 18:34 < DrGibby|> the plus is you fixed it, dragonfleas. Thats all that matters. 18:34 <+MillerBOSS> I assume non log in SMTP? 18:34 < dragonfleas> i'm happy i fixed it, but i'm punching myself in the face because of how obvious of a fix it was 18:35 <+MillerBOSS> I love G Suite https://support.google.com/a/answer/176600?hl=en G Suite SMTP relay >IP address provides authentication. 18:35 <+MillerBOSS> I never touched Exchange but I feel I need to someday if I want to switch jobs ever 18:36 < dragonfleas> MillerBOSS, exchange is cool if it's hosted 18:36 < DrGibby|> I'd rather write custom snort rules than deal with exchange tbh 18:36 < dragonfleas> O365 exchange makes me happy 18:36 < grumplestiltzkin> current versions of esxi have a web client, now, or am I making htat up? 18:36 <+MillerBOSS> I wish they provided a fuck off account. I don't want to pay for that shit 18:36 < mkillebrew> yeah, it's nearly functional non-flash 18:36 <+MillerBOSS> Because I would learn it 18:39 <+MillerBOSS> Does that exist? 18:41 < DrGibby|> a learning account on o365? 18:42 < aName> Yeah I remember the first time I fired up vSphere like 'wait, wtf I need flash'? 18:42 <+MillerBOSS> Yes DrGibby| 18:42 < DrGibby|> not sure 18:42 <+MillerBOSS> I still use the flash side to this day aName 18:42 < gnupluslinux> how the hell do my users tangle their cords so damn easily and quickly 18:42 < aName> MillerBOSS: Me too =;/ 18:42 <+MillerBOSS> Better than the html version. Too many wasted pixels. 18:42 < gnupluslinux> fucking twirl them around their fingers or what 18:43 <+MillerBOSS> Phone cord? 18:43 < dragonfleas> i'm doing the happy dance right now 18:43 < vader-> Microsoft Action Pack is the best way to get a learning O365 setup 18:43 <+MillerBOSS> That is still a thing eh? 18:44 < vader-> it used to be super cheap with the discounts that would fly around... but even though it's full price now, it is still super worth it 18:44 < dragonfleas> aName, vSphere requires flash? wtf 18:44 < DrGibby|> dragonfleas: if you run across anything cool plugin wise let me know 18:44 <+MillerBOSS> $475 per year 18:44 < DrGibby|> I'm always open to suggestions 18:44 < dragonfleas> DrGibby|, i mean all i've done is some lite customization for my org making it presentable lol 18:44 <+MillerBOSS> Get up to ten Office 365 (E3) seats, plus five seats of Enterprise Mobility Suite and Microsoft Dynamics CRM Online Professional2 18:44 < DrGibby|> dragonfleas: vSphere on 5.5 does. 18:44 <+MillerBOSS> Is E3 any good? 18:44 < vader-> ya with the discount codes you used to get it for like $200 18:44 < dragonfleas> DrGibby|, i'm wondering what in the interface uses flash lmao 18:45 < DrGibby|> dragonfleas: fucking everything 18:45 < DrGibby|> its *so bad* 18:45 * dragonfleas vomits 18:45 < DrGibby|> iirc 6.0 was all flash too, 6.5 is mostly html5 18:45 < binaryhermit> flash is dead, html5 is the future 18:45 < vader-> You get all the Microsoft on prem software... Like 25 licenses of Windows 10 Enterprise, Windows server 2012/2016, SQL Server, Exchange, Office, Project, Visio, etc... Then you get $100/mo of Azure spend, and then Office 365 E3 which has everything basically... 18:46 <+MillerBOSS> https://partner.microsoft.com/en-US/membership/action-pack 18:46 <+MillerBOSS> OK I'll buy it for work then 18:47 <+MillerBOSS> I take it I need to pay $475 a year to keep it going? 18:47 < mkillebrew> do you raelly need vmware though? xen or kvm may do you just fine 18:47 < vader-> yes 18:47 <+MillerBOSS> OK, vader- 18:47 < Nightcinder> is xeon-d fanless? 18:47 < vader-> ya as i said, it used to really be worth it when it was only $200ish 18:47 < gnupluslinux> MillerBOSS, we got e3 18:47 < vader-> even at like $475, i think it's still worth it 18:47 < gnupluslinux> its been nice 18:48 < gnupluslinux> i think the deal on e3 is the onedrive storage? 18:48 < DrGibby|> I mean, $100/m in azure is worth it 18:48 <+MillerBOSS> I don't think I want to move current company from G Suite to Office 365 but I think it is something I should know 18:48 < tsarbomba> oh man 18:48 < tsarbomba> guess what song is on the radio right now, millerboss 18:48 < vader-> honestly it is like $40/mo 18:48 < DrGibby|> unless azure rates are retarded and given MS they might be 18:48 < gnupluslinux> you can get it through an outside vendor like dell for _slightly_ less than msft wants from you 18:48 < Nightcinder> for $475/yr with the azure credit it ain't bad 18:48 <+MillerBOSS> Oh wow, yeah DrGibby| I read in my mind $100 a year not a month 18:49 < tsarbomba> JUKE BOX HERO 18:49 < Nightcinder> yeah paying $475 for $1200 azure credit 18:49 < tsarbomba> (stars in his eyes) 18:49 < DrGibby|> depends on the rates in azure though 18:49 < gnupluslinux> DrGibby|, what gives $100 azure cred/mo ? 18:49 < Nightcinder> action pack 18:49 < mkillebrew> and why would you want azure 18:49 < DrGibby|> gnupluslinux: apparently the actionpack 18:49 < tsarbomba> because sometimes AWS is just a big floppy useless dick 18:49 < Nightcinder> i mean azure's p nice 18:49 < mkillebrew> not really 18:49 < DrGibby|> I'm a fan of gCloud too 18:49 <+MillerBOSS> They all have their pros and cons right? 18:50 < Nightcinder> vader-: i don't see sql server or anything 18:50 < mkillebrew> I think at the last place we tried out azure, it was jittery and would just start dropping high traffic 18:50 < Casteil> actually.. doesn't visual studio pro give you azure credit too? 18:50 < mkillebrew> VoIP on it would have completely sucked 18:50 < JFDkthx> pulp.server.db.connection:CRITICAL: Database initialization failed: localhost:27017: [Errno 111] Connection refused 18:51 < JFDkthx> fack 18:51 <+NinjaStyle> Casteil: i think so 18:51 <+NinjaStyle> Casteil: it also gives you msdn 18:51 < Nightcinder> if that actually had sql exchange and stuff that'd be sick 18:52 < Casteil> NinjaStyle: or whatever they've turned MSDN into now, yeah 18:53 < Casteil> I think I paid $495 for vs pro annual sub for my engineer 18:53 < Casteil> oh apparently it's $539/yr now 18:53 < Nightcinder> my boss pays for esxi for us 18:53 < Nightcinder> whatever that thing is called 18:53 < tapoxi> gCloud is the shit 18:53 < tapoxi> I've been very impressed with it 18:53 < DrGibby|> tapoxi+++ 18:53 < DrGibby|> samesies 18:53 < Nightcinder> vmug 18:53 < Nightcinder> that thingy 18:53 < DrGibby|> I run some critical shit on there 18:53 < DrGibby|> ur a vmug 18:54 < Nightcinder> ur face is a vmug 18:54 < Casteil> ah nm it was $539 last year 18:54 < DrGibby|> D: 19:06 < DrGibby|> https://youtu.be/z1pxxOs7yz4 19:06 <+layer-eight> YouTube Do not look up by 2017-04-01T14:36:47.000Z (duration: 3:13) on Sat Apr 01 21:36:47 UTC 2017, 2017-04-01T14:36:47.000Z views 19:06 < DrGibby|> I dunno why but fake NWS alerts like that freak me the fuck out 19:08 < vader-> Any of you guys work at/for an MSP? 19:08 < DrGibby|> we're a MSSP 19:08 < DrGibby|> but have a sister-company that is a MSP 19:08 < DrGibby|> whats up? 19:09 < vader-> Thinking about playing around in that space... im coming off a contract position this week and i don't have anything lined up. Ive worked for an MSP as a tech before, but never really got to see the books. Curious if they are still profitable 19:09 < vader-> with all the "cloud" stuff going on 19:10 < Nightcinder> i need to find a fanless 1u or 2u 19:10 < DrGibby|> yes, MSP's are still profitable. Lots of them move shit to o365 and get a cut of the per seat licensing for example 19:10 < DrGibby|> you need to find one thats not a 2-3 person shop, though. 19:11 < vader-> im looking to start my own if anything 19:11 < DrGibby|> oh 19:12 < DrGibby|> on that front I wouldn't be so sure, but it can be done I suppose. 19:12 < DrGibby|> I did my time in the break/fix and MSP trenches when I was younger and there is no way I'd go back to it, personally. 19:13 < vader-> ya i have been trying to see if any MSP owners or what not would be willing to share their sell sheets, stack offerings, marketing materials, etc... just so i can get an idea of what the offerings are like, what my costs will be like and what the potential profits could look like 19:14 < insecurity> can you guys tell me that if isn't what you didn't not think about wanting to think about doing but couldn't then why shouldn't we not want to not consider thinking about asking people about what it's like to consider thinking about wanting to do it? 19:19 < JFDkthx> insecurity: why should we not ask about the thing that we didnt do to the people that dont think about it? 19:20 < asimon> insecurity: My brain hurts 19:21 * DrGibby| kicks insecurity 19:24 < SandyTech> Does FedEx ever not suck? 19:25 < DrGibby|> nope 19:25 < DrGibby|> buddy works for them 19:25 < SandyTech> Here's to hoping the fuckers at least show up at some point today with my servers. I'm getting kinda antsy 19:25 < DrGibby|> says he'd never ship anything with them 19:25 < SandyTech> lol, that speaks volumes 19:26 < DrGibby|> everyone I know who works for a shipping company says the same thing tbh 19:26 < SandyTech> There is that 19:27 < SandyTech> my eustachian tubes are plugged up. That is agony 19:28 < DrGibby|> SandyTech: ear infection? 19:28 < SandyTech> sinus infection 19:28 < DrGibby|> ugh 19:28 < DrGibby|> I feel you 19:29 < SandyTech> which has spiraled into some kind of upper respiratory thing. I've been hacking shit up for the last 72 hours. I think I may have popped a rib from all the coughing too. 19:31 < DrGibby|> make sure you dont progress into walking pneumonia 19:31 < DrGibby|> that sounds a lot like what I had a couple of years ago 19:32 < SandyTech> Yeah, if it doesn't get better in the morning, I'm going to the urgent care 19:33 < DrGibby|> good :D 19:33 < SandyTech> On a much more on-topic note, I'm getting two new VM hosts (if FedEx ever shows) that'll let me consolidate almost a full rack's worth of HP DL380G6s into 2x new hosts 19:33 < aName> I had walking pneumonia for like six or seven weeks in my junior year of high school 19:33 < DrGibby|> aName: shit sucks :( 19:33 < DrGibby|> SandyTech: esx or something else? 19:33 < aName> My dad didn't believe me 19:33 < SandyTech> ESX 19:33 < DrGibby|> NOICE 19:33 < aName> I ended up coughing up blood at the dinner table 19:34 < SandyTech> that'll get some attention! 19:34 < JFDkthx> aName: did your dad yell at you for putting ketchup on your food 19:34 < aName> Yeah, because like, during the day I just seemed really fatigued 19:34 < aName> But at night I'd lay down and all the fluid would settle and I'd start coughing 19:34 < aName> So basically I didn't sleep for a month 19:36 < Giant81> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/04/intel_spectre_microcode_updates/ nice 19:38 < binaryhermit> I'm curious, how long have VPSes been an actual thing? 19:39 <+AnonymooseReddtr> sup helpdesk team :D 19:39 < DrGibby|> binaryhermit: at least 10 years 19:41 < DrGibby|> AnonymooseReddtr: sup luser 19:41 < tsarbomba> AnonymooseReddtr: back to work 19:43 < tsarbomba> felda is shamefully sneaking around on discord 19:43 < tapoxi> whats a MSP 19:43 < tsarbomba> it's like an ISP only more massive 19:44 < JFDkthx> mangled sex prositute 19:44 < DrGibby|> Managed Service Provider. IT services for small/medium businesses 19:46 * SandyTech 's retirement plan is what an MSP is tapoxi 19:47 < tapoxi> ahh ok 19:48 < Casteil> hmm.. I think AvE's videos are getting bumped down in suggestions because of his "fuck the police" type reaction to censorship 19:48 < SandyTech> Wouldn't surprise me 19:49 < Casteil> I watch all his videos as soon as they pop up in my feed but I haven't been seeing them pop up in my feed lately 19:49 < DrGibby|> AvE? 19:49 < aName> Casteil: unYeah, uncle bumblefuck 19:49 < Casteil> crazy canadian guy who tears tools apart for shits and giggles 19:49 < aName> Err 19:49 < Casteil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPHtIJ9uvk0 19:49 <+layer-eight> YouTube BOSCH NANO-CHAINSAW | 6 month review by 2018-04-08T16:49:48.000Z (duration: 5:33) on Sun Apr 08 23:49:48 UTC 2018, 2018-04-08T16:49:48.000Z views 19:49 < Casteil> (nsfw language) 19:49 < JFDkthx> Casteil: they are still shwoing in mine quite often 19:49 < aName> Casteil: Un-sub, re-sub, click the bell 19:49 < aName> Casteil: Should keep them up front 19:49 < JFDkthx> but less if i havent been watching them 19:50 < Casteil> aName: Yeah, good uncle bumblefuck - he's a surprisingly wholesum fucker 19:50 < DrGibby|> 20 seconds in and I'm already in love 19:50 < Casteil> wholesome 19:50 < Casteil> he's a boundless source of colorful language 19:50 < JFDkthx> for frog's snacks! 19:50 < aName> I dunno, I love youhtube - there's so much shit I would NEVER get to see on TV 19:51 < grumplestiltzkin> If you dont use a 'curse word', but use another word that sounds kind of similar, in the exact same context - is it really any different? 19:51 < Casteil> not too happy with their new broad anti-gun policies 19:52 < Casteil> but yeah lol, he jokes about getting demonetized all the time 19:52 < SandyTech> he doesn't even try to stay within the guidelines 19:53 < Casteil> 2:00 for the "demonetized" jab in that vid 19:53 < SandyTech> I'm fairly certain he's said several times over that he doesn't mind not getting any money off YouTube adverts, preferring it to come from those who chuck a few bucks in the hat now and again 19:53 < Casteil> thing is, despite the colorful language he's one of the smartest cookies on youtube 19:54 < aName> SandyTech: "A few bucks" being like 10k a month on patreon lol 19:54 < Casteil> SandyTech: Yeah, pretty much 19:54 < aName> SandyTech: To be fair, the dude can likely make much more in an actual job 19:54 < SandyTech> true 19:54 < aName> Same with the guy from Applied Science 19:54 < Casteil> I don't think he gets 10k/mo on patreon lol 19:54 < Casteil> actually 19:54 < Casteil> scratch that lol 19:54 < Casteil> he has 13,336 patrons 19:55 < SandyTech> he gets a fair bit offa patreon and gets a couple doll-hairs offa me 19:55 < Casteil> that's a pretty incredible amount 19:55 < DrGibby|> this dude is fucking awesome 19:55 < Casteil> afaik patreon does a $1 minimum 19:55 < Casteil> so he makes at LEAST 13k/mo off patreon 19:56 < Casteil> and his rewards tiers are $2/mo or more or $5/mo or more 19:56 < Casteil> so it's quite possible he's bringing in >20k a month 19:56 < SandyTech> yep 19:56 < Casteil> just through patreon 19:56 < aName> To be fair, a lot of that gets rolled back into costs 19:56 < Casteil> right 19:56 < Casteil> patreon takes some chunk of fees 19:57 < aName> Well not only that 19:57 < aName> But he buys all the stuff he takes apart 19:57 < Casteil> tax 19:57 < SandyTech> He had one of those jucero jobbers appart 19:57 < aName> SandyTech: Oh my god, it's so bad 19:57 < Casteil> aName: lol the shit he takes apart doesn't usually come anywhere near $500 each 19:57 < aName> SandyTech: Like... it's really well built 19:57 < aName> SandyTech: But it's just so, so badly designed 19:58 < SandyTech> on an individual component level that thing was seemingly fantastic 19:58 < aName> RIght. 19:58 < aName> Each part was very well made 19:58 < aName> But the way they were put together... 19:59 < SandyTech> It's as if they let the low level guys run wild with no cost controls whatsoever and then tried to scrimp everywhere else to make up for the things' fucking stupid price 19:59 < aName> YEah 19:59 < sadbox> I just love the videos of people squeezing them 19:59 < sadbox> with their human hands 19:59 < Casteil> I think "overbuilt, poorly engineered" was AvE's conclusion 19:59 < SandyTech> yup 20:00 < SandyTech> IIRC the main press thing could put out some stupid amount of pressure too 20:00 < Casteil> (being that part of engineering is to design something with cost effectiveness in mind) 20:00 < SandyTech> for no good reason what so ever 20:01 < Casteil> SandyTech: what, you don't want to squeeze your juice bags so hard that the plastic becomes part of your juice? :P 20:01 < SandyTech> I have a thing about unnecessary refined petroleum products in my food 20:02 < Casteil> I, too, have a thing about unnecessary petroleum products - refined or unrefined - in my food :P 20:03 < sadbox> SandyTech: You fucking millennials with your avocado toast and your petroleum free juice 20:03 < SandyTech> lol 20:04 < Casteil> SandyTech: lol, I like AvE's plug for JohnnyQ90 - the guy that put a nitro engine in one of those bosch micro chainsaws 20:04 < Casteil> as ridiculous as that thing was 20:04 < SandyTech> that was both cool and disappointing at the same time 20:04 < Casteil> lots of noise for not a lot of performance heh 20:05 < SandyTech> ayup 20:05 < Casteil> right? given the power output of some of those things I was pretty disappointed too 20:05 < Casteil> I think either the clutching or gearing probably wasn't ideal 20:05 < SandyTech> bit of both 20:05 < Casteil> either that or the bosch micro chain just isn't capable of much other than mediocrity 20:06 < tsarbomba> < sadbox> SandyTech: You fucking millennials with your avocado toast and your petroleum free juice 20:06 < tsarbomba> that's why they all have autism now 20:06 < tsarbomba> never built up a tolerance to the vaccines 20:06 < tsarbomba> it's the juice that makes you STRONG 20:06 < tsarbomba> just ask Science(tm) 20:06 < SandyTech> lol 20:07 < Casteil> ah fack still gotta call Brownell's about my sig p365 order 20:07 < SandyTech> ? 20:10 < SandyTech> That thing looks like it'd feel awkward in my hands 20:10 < mruszczyk> Hey dumb question, is it a bad idea to increase mapihttpsessionlimit on an on prem exchange server? We have a bunch of users whos outlook open like 20 connections on every launch to update open calendars and if they close and reopen outlook more than twice in a row they get rate limited 20:11 < SandyTech> FWIW, we did 20:11 < Casteil> SandyTech: it *is* a tiny gun, just about as small as 9mm semi autos get 20:12 < SandyTech> yup. 20:13 < Casteil> not exactly ideal if you're behemoth with huge mitts 20:13 < Casteil> anyway, I have an M&P shield which is a little bigger, and smaller capacity heh 20:13 < Casteil> blows my mind that sig managed to make a gun that small fit 10 rds 20:14 < SandyTech> right! 20:14 < SandyTech> I'm used to CC'ing a SIg P220 20:14 < SandyTech> That little thing would feel like a toy :P 20:14 < Casteil> p365 is quite well liked by most reviewers though 20:14 < tsarbomba> P220++ 20:14 < Casteil> good ergonomics for the size 20:15 < tsarbomba> best da/sa for the money 20:15 < Casteil> also.. comes with good tritium night sights 20:15 < SandyTech> for the longest time my wife carted my grandfather's M1911 around everywhere 20:15 < tsarbomba> i did the exact same thing until i got my sig 20:15 < Casteil> I like the p220, but metal frame makes that shit heavy 20:15 < tsarbomba> stupid, on reflection. the thing is basically a museum piece 20:15 < SandyTech> yup, that's what got her to stop. 20:15 < Casteil> plus the capacity is kinda weak 20:15 < tsarbomba> it's an original springfield armory m1911a1, he carried it during PH 20:16 < tsarbomba> casteil, 10 round factory mags ride or die 20:16 < tsarbomba> never had a failure to load 20:16 < SandyTech> I'll say this for that heavy old fucker, it's never once failed to fire when I've pulled the trigger 20:16 < SandyTech> Now she's got one of those FN57s 20:17 < tsarbomba> little devil of a round 20:17 < tsarbomba> tumbles and does serious damage 20:17 < SandyTech> shrink ray'd 5.56x51 basically 20:17 < Casteil> fack 20:17 < tsarbomba> the fiveseven isn't as light as i thought it would be, though 20:17 < Casteil> on hold with brownells for like 7 minutes only to be put on hold again 20:19 < SandyTech> why the hell does outlook make dumping contacts to a CSV work like shit 20:19 < tsarbomba> microsoft doesn't want to make it easy to leave the microsoft garden 20:19 < tsarbomba> csv is platform independent, which means no bueno 20:20 < Casteil> woo 20:21 < Casteil> thought brownells might be cancelling my p365 preorder because I got it with a $50 off coupon hehe 20:21 < Casteil> brought it down to $460 after shipping 20:21 < SandyTech> lol 20:21 < Casteil> not bad for a brand new gun with a $599 MSRP 20:21 < Casteil> bit on the steep side but how many subcompacts come with good tritium night sights 20:21 < SandyTech> IME none 20:22 < SandyTech> you'd think, this being Florida, there'd be no shortage of good gunsmiths 20:22 < tsarbomba> 9 9 9 everybody wants to carry a 9 20:23 < SandyTech> buddy of mine is trying to get tritium sights put on his XD40, and all three places in town either want stupid money or won't do it 20:23 < Casteil> yes you can get a M&P Shield for like $300-400, but if you want night sights you're looking at another like $100+ for those 20:23 < Casteil> SandyTech: dovetail sights aren't too bad to seat 20:23 < Casteil> dealer shouldn't charge more than like $20 to do that shit, takes all of 5-10 min 20:24 < SandyTech> I know 20:24 < SandyTech> one place we went to wanted !170 20:24 < tsarbomba> do they tickle your balls for that price? 20:24 < Casteil> that's straight up ridiculous 20:25 < Casteil> oh wtf 20:25 < Casteil> my FFL dealer is only open thurs/fri/sat now???! 20:25 < tsarbomba> mine cut back on his hours too 20:25 < Casteil> YUCK 20:25 < tsarbomba> not too many rifles in stock at his shop these days either 20:25 < Casteil> that means I'm not going to be able to get them to send their FFL license to Brownells for another 2 days 20:25 < SandyTech> at least down here that's not uncommon once season goes away 20:25 < tsarbomba> eh in miami shooting season is 12 months a year 20:26 < Casteil> I should find a different FFL tbh 20:26 < tsarbomba> think i'll order another 500 rounds and schedule some time at the outdoor range next weekend 20:26 < Casteil> the big one around here, I don't think they do FFL transfers because they probably see it as cannibalizing their own sales 20:26 < felda> tsarbomba pfsense is perfect in every way 20:26 < tsarbomba> yeah my guy's a smaller shop but not exactly rinkydink 20:26 < DomLS3> s/perfect/garbage 20:26 <+layer-eight> felda meant: "tsarbomba pfsense is garbage in every way" 20:27 < tsarbomba> felda, except that it shits itself openly if you try to reapply a configuration to a WAN that requires authentication 20:27 < felda> tsarbomba pfsense is free you aren't allowed to criticize it 20:27 < Casteil> the way I see it is, you might as well capitalize by collecting a FFL transfer fee for online sales you wouldn't get anyway 20:27 < Casteil> bring people into your shop and potentially add sales 20:27 < SandyTech> woo! Fedex showed with my servers. 20:27 < tsarbomba> i'm allowed to criticize the product. notice i didn't say anything about the support 20:28 < tsarbomba> casteil, i can't say i've ever gone into the man's shop without walking out with at least $100 in extras after a transfer 20:28 < tsarbomba> especially when i got my remington 700 20:28 < felda> I'm just giving you shit 20:28 < tsarbomba> i know :D 20:28 < felda> Damn my Reminton 700 fucking jammed when I tried to put a shell in the WAN port 20:28 < tsarbomba> you have to load them into the LAN port 20:29 < tsarbomba> don't forget to disable NAT 20:29 < felda> I turned on NAT reflection ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 20:29 < Casteil> tsarbomba: Right? if I'm doing a FFL transfer (especially if it's being done for free) I usually want to throw some extra bones at the dealer for doing it 20:29 < tsarbomba> omg u goan dah 20:29 < Casteil> so I'll usually pick up some ammo or something 20:29 < tsarbomba> casteil, this is the guy who got me my first 5 10-round mags for my P220 20:29 < felda> I'm getting my FOID card here soon :D 20:29 < Casteil> (that said gun shops around here tend to be pretty pricy for ammo/mags/guns.. hence buying most shit online..) 20:30 < tsarbomba> yeah, same, but i still ponied up 20:30 < Casteil> tsarbomba: ugh, speaking of mags 20:30 < tsarbomba> guy's making my life easier in the end 20:30 < Casteil> P365 mags are stupid expensive right now 20:30 < Casteil> like ~$50 ea 20:30 < tsarbomba> i should check to see if prices spike on the 10-round sig factory mags 20:30 < tsarbomba> with all this shit going on re: gun control 20:30 < vinrock> buy ammo 20:30 < vinrock> LOTS of it 20:30 < tsarbomba> that i've got 20:30 < tsarbomba> and i am going to order 500 more rounds of FMJ for the range 20:31 < tsarbomba> make a day of it 20:31 < admiralspark> Casteil: I'm late to the convo but don't you have to pay for a FFL shipment anyway? 20:31 < admiralspark> like $25 on either side? 20:31 < tsarbomba> yeah there's a transfer fee 20:31 < vinrock> for mags? 20:31 < Casteil> admiralspark: Depends on the dealer; I've had one do it for free before 20:31 < admiralspark> oh, thought we meant pistols 20:31 < Casteil> but most of the time it's $20-40 20:31 < Casteil> per gun 20:31 < admiralspark> yeah, that's what I've seen 20:32 < admiralspark> and they're all that way 20:32 < Casteil> mostly yes 20:32 < Casteil> frankly I wouldn't want to take on the legal responsibility for a transaction without SOME compensation 20:32 < Casteil> so I don't blame them 20:32 < admiralspark> cool though. Only time I got a freebie was buying through an FFL and shipping it 20:32 < admiralspark> it's the paperwork I'd be annoyed by 20:33 < Casteil> at any rate, even with a $35 fee for the transfer, the P365 I'm ordering from Brownell's is far cheaper than I could get it from any shop 20:33 < admiralspark> plus, having a class2 or 3 ain't cheap 20:33 < admiralspark> Casteil: that's a neat looking gun 20:33 < vinrock> you ever shot a cz 20:33 < vinrock> i am in love with those right now 20:34 < admiralspark> 10+1?? 20:34 < admiralspark> how does it fit that? 20:34 <@cryptic1> admiralspark, back to work 20:34 < SandyTech> double stacked 20:34 < Casteil> some impressive engineering 20:34 <@cryptic1> vinrock, back to work 20:34 <@cryptic1> Casteil, back to work 20:34 < admiralspark> damnit cryptic1 20:34 < Casteil> cryptic1: get fucked 20:34 <@cryptic1> tsarbomba, back to work 20:34 <@cryptic1> JFDkthx, back to work 20:34 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, back to work 20:34 < tsarbomba> not tsarbomba 20:34 <@cryptic1> felda, back to work 20:34 * tsarbomba kicks cryptic1 20:34 <@cryptic1> mistiry, back to work 20:34 <+MillerBOSS> f 20:34 < SandyTech> vinrock: I've been looking at getting a CZ75 or something like that 20:34 <@cryptic1> killdash9, back to work 20:34 <+MillerBOSS> u 20:34 <+MillerBOSS> c 20:34 <+MillerBOSS> k 20:34 <+MillerBOSS> o 20:34 <+MillerBOSS> f 20:34 <@cryptic1> SandyTech, back to work 20:34 <+MillerBOSS> f 20:34 < Casteil> admiralspark: that's why I bought it though - super impressive feat to get 10+1 in such a small package 20:34 <@cryptic1> dbcc, back to work 20:34 < tsarbomba> millerboss is daydrunk again :( 20:34 <@cryptic1> MillerBOSS, back to work 20:35 < vinrock> i got an sp-01 tactical and jaysus christ its soooooooooooo nice to shoot 20:35 < dbcc> i am working 20:35 < admiralspark> Casteil: I'd be interested in what you think of it after you get it 20:35 < dbcc> ? 20:35 < vinrock> one of my buddies loves it too and hes on a gun buying spree, im trying to con him into buying a tactical sport 20:35 < vinrock> so i can shot it 20:35 < vinrock> bcuz i aint buying no $2,000 pistol 20:35 < tsarbomba> i need more friends with "fuck you" money and membership to the range 20:36 < SandyTech> some of my friends are talking about buying a plot of land out in BFE and setting up our own version of Thunder Creek 20:36 < admiralspark> tsarbomba: I'd be happy being the guy with fuck you money too ;) 20:36 < tsarbomba> yeah that could work 20:36 < vinrock> yeah i want to do that ion pa but i cant find anyone who'll do it with me 20:36 < Hatter> What's the best password policy these days? 20:36 < tsarbomba> i need to take bigger gambles in the market if i want that, though 20:36 < tsarbomba> you need fuck you money to make fuck you money :( 20:36 < admiralspark> Hatter: length far surpasses complexisty 20:36 < hxcsp> Hatter: dna sample 20:36 < dbcc> Hatter, post its 20:36 < tsarbomba> hatter, "password1" 20:36 < admiralspark> PCI-DSS and NIST 800 agree 20:37 < dbcc> Hatter, https://mostsecure.pw/ 20:37 < SandyTech> CIO wants to switch to smart cards 20:37 < admiralspark> Hatter: magnets flipping bits in ram so keyloggers can't see it 20:37 < tsarbomba> never switch to physical tokens until you can surgically embed them in employees 20:38 < estranger> why? 20:38 < admiralspark> tsarbomba: how do you feel about under-skin nfc tags? 20:38 < SandyTech> I'm getting to the point where I want to use the power hammer & some rail spikes to secure password stickies to my users foreheads 20:39 < Casteil> tramp stamp tokens 20:39 < JFDkthx> didnt they come out and say current password policies were a mistake 20:39 < estranger> "something you have" doesn't need to be physically attached to you 20:39 < admiralspark> JFDkthx: yeah, and told people to do length and ditch rotations 20:39 < JFDkthx> thats what i thought 20:39 < SandyTech> yep. 20:39 < JFDkthx> fucking 20:39 < JFDkthx> i hate my corp policy 20:39 < SandyTech> But IIRC PCI-DSS hasn't caught up to that yet 20:40 < admiralspark> estranger: having the "something you have" be a damn latop with a key synced via AD shouldn't be legit, but it is. MFA my ass, if someone steals the laptop they get in with only a password still 20:40 < estranger> wait, the PCI Counsil is behind the times on something??? 20:40 < felda> security is dumb we must share ALL knowledge!!! 20:40 < tsarbomba> admiralspark, the itchier the better 20:40 < admiralspark> PCI-DSS's new standards just finally did SandyTech 20:40 < admiralspark> tsarbomba: good good 20:40 < tsarbomba> felda does pfsense share our data with you 20:40 < tsarbomba> be honest 20:41 < admiralspark> if it's enabled it definitely will 20:41 < estranger> admiralspark, yah that fits mfa imo.. something you have can be a physical device 20:41 < felda> tsarbomba not yours. it's only set to track people who are interesting and also not DORKS 20:41 < tsarbomba> as of last week (probably earlier) PCI has indeed caught up with password length/complexity/rotation requirements 20:41 < SandyTech> Our audit doesn't hit until December, so I haven't bothered reading up on the new standards yet admiralspark 20:41 < tsarbomba> we lied on our latest questionnaire but we are backfilling that policy now 20:41 < tsarbomba> so users will soon be pretty pissed off 20:41 < Casteil> still not really used to having some of our company webpages open on a screen 20:41 < estranger> tsarbomba, par for the course man 20:41 < estranger> everyone lies on their audits 20:41 < admiralspark> estranger: If you have your laptop stolen, they don't need to do anything else aside from crack your password. So it's not "more secure" 20:41 < admiralspark> NERC-CIP is the same garbage 20:41 < Casteil> feels like stuff I shouldn't be looking at at work haha 20:42 < admiralspark> SandyTech: idk if they're all adopted yet 20:42 < estranger> admiralspark, more secure than what? same thing if you drop your rsa token 20:42 < tsarbomba> i think the password stuff was a best practice back in december and some time recently (march?) it became a requirement 20:42 < admiralspark> estranger: but they would then need the laptop AND the token 20:42 < estranger> no they wouldn't 20:42 < admiralspark> assuming you restrict vpn to domain-joined machines using whatever the latest always-on is 20:42 < tsarbomba> i didn't notice it until our questionnaire auditing started bothering me about missed questions, went back and found they had added a bunch 20:43 < Casteil> damn it's already 3pm 20:43 < tsarbomba> they also dumped a bunch of ciphers as no longer compliant 20:43 < FrostCyborg> I realize as a sysadmin we need to know something about power with regards to V and W and A, but who do you guys rely on when you're needing to deal with more complicated power situations, such as generator frequencies and matching the UPS to those 20:43 < tsarbomba> casteil, i was looking at the clock and thinking "fuck it's not even 3 yet" 20:43 < admiralspark> well, I guess this would make more sense if we were talking about the same netwrok structure estranger so maybe we're both right 20:43 < admiralspark> :P 20:43 < Casteil> tsarbomba: ok, it's technically not quite 3 yet lol 20:43 < estranger> admiralspark, haha wa just typing out, i dont think either one of us are "wrong" ... comes down to "it depends" 20:43 < admiralspark> FrostCyborg: our engineers, because 1) it's their job and 2) they went to school for it ;) 20:44 < FrostCyborg> Which engineers? 20:44 < admiralspark> estranger: as with all good things in life! 20:44 < tsarbomba> i'm hoping once corporate bounces there's an exodus out the door so i can leave early 20:44 < FrostCyborg> @admiralspark 20:44 < admiralspark> FrostCyborg: I work for The Power Company 20:44 < admiralspark> so I cheat 20:44 < FrostCyborg> @admiralspark LOL 20:44 < Casteil> tsarbomba: I started at like quarter to 8 and haven't taken lunch so I'm close to my 8h now :P 20:44 < FrostCyborg> @admiralspark well played 20:44 < admiralspark> ;) 20:44 < estranger> admiralspark, been to a place that all employees have to request vpn access every time (even when on site), and access is only granted for 8 hrs at a time, lol 20:44 < tsarbomba> yeah i've been here since quarter of 8 and i skip lunch as often as not 20:44 < admiralspark> estranger: woah, like, timed tokens or something? 20:44 < admiralspark> that's crazy 20:45 < estranger> admiralspark, yeah, its pretty wild 20:45 < estranger> financial services sector 20:45 < estranger> so it does make sense ... they also got good physical security 20:45 < admiralspark> oh, yep 20:45 < admiralspark> can see that for sure 20:46 < FrostCyborg> I'm having an issue where we're trying to get a new generator. The generator guy is saying that the frequency drops we're getting under load that's causing the ACs to not come back on under generator power and the UPS to act strangely will still occur on a generator where we've doubled the capacity. That doesn't make sense to me because we're right on the line now as it is. 20:46 < admiralspark> We couldn't do that here but we also have very limited resources they can access remotely... 20:46 < estranger> one place's physical security you get tokens at the entrance.. and the tokens get used to make gates go up and down... so if you make a wrong turn and run out of tokens you have to wait for security to get you lol 20:46 < gnupluslinux> put the you kno what 20:46 < gnupluslinux> in the you know where 20:46 < admiralspark> FrostCyborg: whaaaaaaaaaaat?!? Your generator should NOT drop frequency that much, if it does it's undersized seriously 20:47 < admiralspark> like, that's equipment-destroyingly bad 20:47 < estranger> gnupluslinux, foxtrot, unfiform, chaarrrrlliee, kiilllloooo 20:48 < admiralspark> FrostCyborg: even moving 2/10ths of a hz shouldn't happen if the sizing is correct. Is it when load ramps up or just on initial start? 20:48 < JFDkthx> you got the right power going to it?> 20:48 < gnupluslinux> estranger, :D 20:48 < estranger> wonder if they still tour.. their shows were..... ridiculous 20:48 < admiralspark> also are we talking like a 5000w generator or like a 1mw one? 20:48 < estranger> they used to be a local band, kinda cool to see them get big 20:49 < gnupluslinux> you guys use recruiters? or just apply? 20:49 < estranger> who me? 20:49 < admiralspark> gnupluslinux: just apply, recruiters suck the life out of you ;) 20:49 < estranger> oh 20:49 < gnupluslinux> LOL 20:49 < gnupluslinux> bloodhound gang is blocked by the fw as adult content 20:49 < gnupluslinux> :D 20:49 < estranger> as it should be lol 20:49 < estranger> YUMMY DOWN ON THIS 20:50 < gnupluslinux> just in general estranger 20:50 < vinrock> .yt bad touch 20:50 <+layer-eight> YouTube Bloodhound Gang - The Bad Touch - https://youtu.be/xat1GVnl8-k 20:50 < gnupluslinux> yeah makes sense in hindsight, just wanted to see if there were tour dates listed 20:50 < gnupluslinux> i dont think they broke up or anything 20:50 < estranger> I have a unique professional career.. never used a recruiter 20:50 < FrostCyborg> @admiralspark: The initial start is the biggest issue. It's an older natural gas generator, residential quality. We're a small company. 4 physical hosts, 2 storage arrays, firewall, switch etc. We're looking at getting one that's new, with a digital regulator, and not quite double in size. 20:50 < FrostCyborg> Generator guy says voltage drops will still happen 20:51 < gnupluslinux> estranger, i seent your linkedin 20:51 < gnupluslinux> i belee dat 20:51 < admiralspark> FrostCyborg: you need to work with a firm to determine load requirements, and you would want it to blackstart properly before the UPS load is placed on it 20:51 < estranger> i got my first job via my HS baseball coach 20:51 < vinrock> you need an automatic stransfer switch in combination with the genset and ups 20:51 < estranger> he was buddies w/ a startup owner at the country club 20:51 < gnupluslinux> but yeah im just kinda fed up with job search but bored and unhappy where im at 20:51 < vinrock> transfer 20:51 < admiralspark> FrostCyborg: I could talk deets but a good generator reseller will have engineers on staff who can size based on the load estimates 20:51 < vinrock> http://www.eaton.com/Eaton/ProductsServices/Electrical/ProductsandServices/ElectricalDistribution/ANSINEMAPowerDistributionandControlSystems/ATS/index.htm 20:51 < estranger> gnupluslinux, btw I had 42 people show up to that workshop... prob doing another one here heh 20:51 < admiralspark> also 20:52 <+TuxedoJack> Fucking A. Working from home, despite the long hours, is fucking nice 20:52 < admiralspark> always buy 2x whatever you think you need 20:52 < FrostCyborg> admiralspark We're working with a "firm" I guess. Over here in CA trying to find a generator company to actually call us back these days is like pulling teeth without a shot of whisky at the very least. 20:52 < admiralspark> hmmmm. 20:52 <+TuxedoJack> I've a hookah of strawberry lemon shisha, some vanilla bean cider, and NO PANTS. EVER. 20:52 < gnupluslinux> admiralspark, most recruiters i've met are youngish looking 20 somethings. kills me a bit that they get a portion of your salary for placement if im being honest :( 20:52 < JFDkthx> TuxedoJack: i miss going hookah 20:52 < admiralspark> Is this an independent firm or is it like Siemens? FrostCyborg 20:52 < gnupluslinux> estranger, nice sounds like a hell of a turnout 20:52 < estranger> i end up accepting recuirters on my linkedin cus they are hot... ill be honest 20:52 < FrostCyborg> I'm asking one of my techs about the capacity at the moment. I can't remember off the top of my head. 20:52 < JFDkthx> i miss frens 20:53 < gnupluslinux> i go to the local tech mixers here 20:53 < vinrock> i dont thnk we have any nerd gatherings in my area 20:53 < FrostCyborg> admiralspark Independent I believe. We're really small potatoes for a large firm. We had a heck of a time getting people to return calls and get back to us 20:53 < gnupluslinux> if i see a woman at them, i just automatically assume they're recruiter 20:53 < admiralspark> gnupluslinux: yep. Plus the jobs that hire recruiters usually don't have adequate technical management staff in place to do the recruiting properly, it's a big red flag for me 20:53 < vinrock> id go for the hell of it' 20:53 < gnupluslinux> and its generally correct. lotta cute ones too 20:53 < estranger> i have a female coworker just hired 20:53 < admiralspark> FrostCyborg: CA right? 20:53 < estranger> havent met her yet 20:53 < vinrock> is she hot 20:53 < vinrock> aw 20:53 < felda|> Friendship ended with pfSense. Now CISCO is my best friend. 20:53 < vinrock> id kill for a hot nerdy girl 20:53 < FrostCyborg> admiralspark yup, bay area 20:53 < vinrock> instead of the usual hot maniac 20:54 < estranger> shes prob decent.. she'll be my sales counterpart 20:54 < gnupluslinux> estranger, but is she hot tho #theimportantquestions #totallynotgettingflaggedbyhrrightnow 20:54 < vinrock> oh thats right you work in sales now 20:54 < gnupluslinux> nice 20:54 < estranger> vinrock, yes im on the dark side now and fucking love it 20:54 < estranger> not just sales... nosql sales. DUN DUN DUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN 20:54 < gnupluslinux> ive thought about moving to sales at times tbh 20:54 < gnupluslinux> big ticket sales 20:54 < estranger> yeah we're elephant hunters here 20:54 < estranger> big game only 20:54 < gnupluslinux> squirrel just a fuck ton of money away until the nest egg is built up 20:55 < admiralspark> to be honest, I can't believe I'm saying this. Call your power company and see if they're willing to work with you on it. FrostCyborg utilities typically will do free load estimates and would love to be involved in the process because they have concerns about the generator hookup being done properly so they don't get backfeed when crews are on the line. We'll send our peeps into the field as a 20:55 < admiralspark> benefit to the members when they do these kinds of things 20:55 < gnupluslinux> estranger, hire me sensei 20:55 < estranger> by then yer addicted to money and will never stop making sales, gnupluslinux 20:55 < estranger> gnupluslinux, http://myjob.io/libxy ! 20:55 < FrostCyborg> admiralspark Thank you, I'll check in to that. 20:56 < tsarbomba> COFFEE IS FOR CLOSERS 20:56 < gnupluslinux> estranger, probably to by honest. i'm dead set on grabbing like 3-5mil for a nest egg just to have some financial stability 20:56 < admiralspark> FrostCyborg: it's worth a shot anyway. I don't know anyone in CA power companies so I can't give you a contact but I bet they do. If not, municipalities might have people too, as part of a "disaster recovery" or something program. 20:56 <+MillerBOSS> s/CL/L 20:56 <+layer-eight> tsarbomba meant: "COFFEE IS FOR LOSERS" 20:56 < tsarbomba> and i'm dead set on stealing 3-5mil from gnupluslinux because fuck it why not 20:56 < estranger> gnupluslinux, yeah that would be a good egg =) 20:56 < gnupluslinux> haha >any major metro 20:56 < admiralspark> s/LOSERS/EXEMPTEMPLOYEES 20:56 <+layer-eight> tsarbomba meant: "COFFEE IS FOR EXEMPTEMPLOYEES" 20:57 < estranger> i dumped coffee all over my laptop this morning :D 20:57 < gnupluslinux> tsarbomba, good luck im behind 7 proxies! 20:57 < estranger> seems to be ok 20:57 < SandyTech> and that's why we only give out Toughbooks or Thinkpad T series laptops 20:57 < vinrock> frostcyborg call kohler power and have them send out a tech 20:57 < gnupluslinux> estranger, worked it out to be enough to retire on if invested and pulled out slowly/on gains. i'd still have to work but at least it'd be a good net 20:57 < gnupluslinux> fucking california housing prices and taxes 20:57 < SandyTech> depending on how big you're looking on doing, Kittypillar will send out one of their power guys 20:58 < vinrock> i'd imagine only if you're buying huge shit 20:58 < vinrock> cat dealers are the worst to deal with 20:58 < SandyTech> they seem to be hit-or-miss 20:58 < SandyTech> our Cat power dealer down here is beyond awesome 20:59 < SandyTech> the regular Cat dealer is run by a bunch of clickish little shits 20:59 < vinrock> i work in the trucking industry and we have a fleet of heavy haul trucks 20:59 < vinrock> spend $5m/quarters on tires alone 20:59 < vinrock> we cant even get the cat dealers to work with us 20:59 < SandyTech> it's like a bucha highschool girls in that place. 20:59 < tsarbomba> sandytech keeps gettin' older but they stay the same age 21:00 < gnupluslinux> estranger, i might apply for one or two of those. im assuming it'll ask for your name at some point? 21:00 < gnupluslinux> oh no i see the referrer-id 21:00 < vinrock> his name is Mike Hunt 21:00 < FrostCyborg> admiralspark According to my guy working with the gen company on this because I'm not in that office anymore, it's a 20kW new one, older one is 13kW and both will be nat. gas models. 21:00 < estranger> if you use those links my name will be attached 21:00 < estranger> if you apply though let me know 21:01 < gnupluslinux> estranger, i'll have a look when i get home. only thing that kills me when looking at job postings is the whole time things 21:01 < gnupluslinux> 5+years doing so and so, 10+ doing this other thing 21:01 < estranger> do what I do.. ignore those 21:02 < dbcc> need 5+ years working with Windows Server 2016 21:02 < gnupluslinux> i do too 21:02 < vinrock> frostcyborg: https://w3.usa.siemens.com/us/internet-dms/btlv/Residential/Residential/docs_Generators/Standby%20Power%20Generator%20-%20Sizing%20Guide.pdf 21:02 < vinrock> thats a handy read 21:02 < estranger> they are mostly unreasonable everywhere 21:03 < admiralspark> FrostCyborg: interesting. Assuming load isn't a concern (true load + line loss), I'd bet that you can work with your UPS vendor to tweak system settings to work with it. 21:04 < admiralspark> FrostCyborg: the only time I've hit an issue with generator frequency was blackstarts not working correctly, and we ended up re-programming the load adjustment for after the generator had spooled up. I know with big nat-gas generators (80MW) we have to have it spun up and use reclosers/load shedding to manage frequency as we cut the grid over but we have a blackstart system specifically to handle the 21:04 < admiralspark> initial spool 21:04 < gnupluslinux> i think its weird to see listings for Chief $whatever 21:05 < Casteil> chief badass 21:05 < gnupluslinux> figured you'd headhunt at that level or is it regulations or something where you gotta at least put up a posting 21:05 < gnupluslinux> Casteil, Chief Badass in Residence 21:05 < vinrock> admiralspark you guys dont use an ats? 21:05 < Casteil> feeling tired all of a sudden 21:05 < admiralspark> at 20kw though...it shouldn't be that much of a hit, maybe .7sec for a cutover from warm. FrostCyborg if you're going from line power, cold generator boot and then load transfer....I'd say your controls need some tweaking, but that's one of those "everyone needs to make changes" situations 21:05 < Casteil> probably need foodage 21:06 < admiralspark> vinrock: we do but I bet he doesn't at 20kw 21:06 < admiralspark> I'm IT not OT ;) 21:07 < Casteil> lol, still keeping my dead phone on hand and trying every once in a while to turn it on ..wishful thinking 21:07 < admiralspark> I do know we have good line conditioning upstream of our UPS so we basically get 59.7 > 60.3 or nothing. Which our APC's can work with on their own 21:07 < Casteil> #spoiledbyamazon is going to hit hard on this one 21:07 < Casteil> google is going to take like a week+ to get my new Moto x4 here 21:08 < admiralspark> heh 21:08 < admiralspark> anyway FrostCyborg I have to pop out for a while 21:09 < admiralspark> so good luck and hopefully the power company pans out! 21:09 < vinrock> whoa 21:09 < vinrock> weather guy just said MAYBE 80 degrees friday and saturday 21:09 < Casteil> vinrock: nothx 21:09 <@JollyRgrs> What have I returned to? cryptic1: get back to work! 21:09 < vinrock> thats a lot nicer than the 20 degree weather we have today 21:09 < admiralspark|Out> whatever 21:09 < Casteil> best temp in the forecast we have for the next week looks like 56f lol 21:10 < Casteil> and rain 21:10 <@JollyRgrs> vinrock: 20C is kinda warm 21:10 < Casteil> so far this april has been way below normal temp 21:10 < vinrock> 20F 21:10 <@JollyRgrs> i wish we had that here 21:10 < vinrock> im over this winter shit 21:10 < Casteil> anyway I'm outta here 21:10 < vinrock> wana go kayaking 21:11 < vinrock> and go fishing in shorts 21:11 < FrostCyborg> @admiralspark|Out Thank you 21:11 <@JollyRgrs> vinrock: except today and yesterday... we're already hitting mid to high 80s with high humidity 21:11 < FrostCyborg> vinrock I'll check them out. Thank you 21:11 < vinrock> oh yeah one of the other guys here near miami said its gona be 90s this weekend 21:11 < vinrock> np 21:11 <@JollyRgrs> lots of kayaking around me... plenty of rivers/streams and ocean 21:11 <@JollyRgrs> and way too much summer weather 21:11 <@JollyRgrs> pls take some 21:11 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, D: 21:12 <@JollyRgrs> i had that 19F weather... it was lovely 21:12 <@JollyRgrs> but it was a canadian 19F 21:13 < BonKurei> 20 M Texas here 21:13 <@JollyRgrs> lol 21:13 <@JollyRgrs> hey, say what you want about quebec... but their women are hot and dress like they know it 21:13 < gnupluslinux> i thought you were in FL JollyRgrs l 21:13 < BonKurei> And those accents... 21:14 <+AnonymooseReddtr> lol 21:14 <+AnonymooseReddtr> JollyRgrs 21:14 <+AnonymooseReddtr> except the all f'n smoke 21:14 < Sarah> this dude wore a ball cap to an interview here... 21:14 <@JollyRgrs> AnonymooseReddtr: not many were smokers in Laval 21:15 < BonKurei> I can think of many jobs where a baseball cap is acceptable, janitorial - concessions - usher - etc 21:15 < tsarbomba> was it a good team at least, sarah 21:15 < gnupluslinux> ursher baby 21:15 < BonKurei> tsarbomba: DA BEARS 21:15 < gnupluslinux> gotta let it burn 21:16 < Sarah> i don't know 21:16 <+AnonymooseReddtr> JollyRgrs no? 21:16 <+AnonymooseReddtr> did not know that 21:16 <+AnonymooseReddtr> haven't been to laval in many years 21:18 < felda> felda.io updated with new music 21:18 < gnupluslinux> Sarah, do you work in a... laid back field? 21:18 < tapoxi> I miss miami 21:18 <+AnonymooseReddtr> ball cap? to an interview??? the f 21:18 < tapoxi> boston is super fuckin cold now 21:19 < gnupluslinux> maybe it's one of those newer places with no dress code 21:19 < gnupluslinux> show up in shorts a shirt 21:19 < tapoxi> I read that as bald cap 21:19 < abakedapplepie> felda when is your mixtape dropping 21:19 < gnupluslinux> it dropped last summer 21:19 < gnupluslinux> in california 21:19 < gnupluslinux> 200k acres are burnt cause of it 21:20 < gnupluslinux> thanks felda 21:20 < abakedapplepie> shit 21:20 < tapoxi> Sarah: i showed up to an interview unshaven and wearing jeans/hoodie once. ceo comes in, wearing jeans and hoodie. i got the job 21:20 < tapoxi> tech is cool sometimes 21:20 < abakedapplepie> were you not trying to get the job? o 21:20 < abakedapplepie> or were you aware of culture ahead of time 21:20 < abakedapplepie> lol 21:21 < tsarbomba> okay i need it to be 5pm 21:21 < abakedapplepie> hey me too thanks 21:21 < tapoxi> abakedapplepie: I was actively trying to not get the job 21:21 < gnupluslinux> i usually call up the front desk and ask if they have a dress code 21:21 < gnupluslinux> tapoxi, looks like you cant even do that right 21:21 < abakedapplepie> tapoxi literally the worst 21:21 < abakedapplepie> cant even suck properly 21:21 < tapoxi> abakedapplepie: interviewed for fun because $oldjob gave me a retention bonus, they gave me an offer higher than expected 21:22 < gnupluslinux> L I T E R A L L Y 21:22 < tapoxi> they also gave me an offer, which was fuckin weird 21:22 < Heresiarch> s/weird/disturbing/ 21:22 <+layer-eight> tapoxi meant: "they also gave me an offer, which was fuckin disturbing" 21:22 <@JollyRgrs> AnonymooseReddtr: yeah, they are very strict with where you even can smoke 21:22 < tapoxi> tl;dr learn kubernetes because fucking nobody knows it 21:23 < Heresiarch> if somewhere gives you an immediate offer, chances are they're desperate for help. 21:23 < Holo> Hahaha 21:23 < tapoxi> Heresiarch: yeah exactly, they went prod k8s and nobody has prod k8s experience 21:23 < gnupluslinux> pfft k8s 21:23 < tapoxi> lol engineers 21:23 < tapoxi> chasing the hype train 21:23 < Heresiarch> tapoxi: ...I'm shocked, shocked I tell you. 21:23 < abakedapplepie> k8s? 21:24 < gnupluslinux> abakedapplepie, kubernetes 21:24 < abakedapplepie> oh kubernetes 21:24 < gnupluslinux> k + 8 letters 21:24 < abakedapplepie> why is k8s a shorthand for that 21:24 < gnupluslinux> or some shit 21:24 < abakedapplepie> i see 21:24 < tapoxi> Heresiarch: old devops guy is now a consultant, a nice "im gonna play with this new toy" and then bails 21:24 < gnupluslinux> i got an offer to write a blockchain recently 21:24 < Hatter> where's the link for that breakdancing move on reddit last week 21:24 < gnupluslinux> my entire brain and interest in the conversation dropped to zero 21:25 < Holo> I hate windows soo much 21:25 < gnupluslinux> blockchain ALL THE THINGS! 21:25 < tapoxi> gnupluslinux: will they pay you in bitcoins 21:25 < gnupluslinux> make your own coin to handle beanie baby transactions! 21:25 <@JollyRgrs> ooh 21:25 < gnupluslinux> .coinmarketcap btc 21:25 <@JollyRgrs> Beanie Baby Coin.... BBC 21:25 <@JollyRgrs> that'll trade well 21:25 < Heresiarch> tapoxi: ...I get jumping around for better pay or technical opportunities. But switching to an immature infra stack in prod, and jumping out when it stops crashing, is just malpractice. 21:25 < tapoxi> btw guys I'm opening the market for tapoxicoin 21:25 < tsarbomba> i suspect dogecoin will figure into this 21:25 <@JollyRgrs> .value BBC 21:25 <@JollyRgrs> :P 21:26 < tapoxi> Heresiarch: oh yeah but that's far too common 21:26 < Heresiarch> JollyRgrs: 12" 21:26 <@JollyRgrs> cryptic1 invests heavily in the BBC 21:26 < tapoxi> Heresiarch: they jump on a hot tech and bail with it on their resume 21:26 <@JollyRgrs> Heresiarch: current trends for BBC are rising 21:26 < gnupluslinux> Heresiarch, i thought the appeal was google was using borg or something for awhile and k8s was the public port 21:26 < tapoxi> butt-butt-chain? 21:26 < gnupluslinux> british broadcasting corporation? 21:27 <@JollyRgrs> tapoxi: see above... it's beanie baby coin, obviously 21:27 < technonerd> Big black coffee 21:27 < Hatter> gnupluslinux, I think they're referring to african american genetlemen with above average sized genitalia 21:27 < gnupluslinux> buff brown chinito 21:27 < Heresiarch> gnupluslinux: not sure about the history, but it remains true that k8s is both very unproven, overly complex, and relies far too much on the hype train. 21:28 < tapoxi> gnupluslinux: yeah there's good design behind k8s but it's not a silver bullet, its designed for microservice oriented envs that need autoscaling 21:28 <@JollyRgrs> Hatter: wtf are you going on about? what kind of channel do you mistake this as? 21:28 < gnupluslinux> tapoxi, basically yeah 21:28 < tapoxi> gnupluslinux: in this env, there's no reason they needed to use it. picking through their github they already went mesos for funzies 21:29 < tapoxi> tl;dr all you need is saltstack 21:29 < gnupluslinux> Heresiarch, https://research.google.com/pubs/pub43438.html so thats the original and k8s is like the crippled community port 21:29 < Heresiarch> tapoxi: did a first round interview for a place that was running k8s on two EC2 instances. LAMP(ostgres) stack + hdfs + ML 21:29 <@JollyRgrs> s/saltstack/love 21:29 <+layer-eight> tapoxi meant: "tl;dr all you need is love" 21:30 < gnupluslinux> i really should get saltstack figured out 21:30 < tapoxi> salt is all you need/salt is all you need.... 21:30 < gnupluslinux> played with it at home but nothing really useful 21:30 < gnupluslinux> i am familiar with salt 21:30 < gnupluslinux> raised in it, bathed in it 21:31 < tapoxi> gnupluslinux: mastering saltstack is a good book if you want to learn how to use every part of the salt buffalo 21:31 < gnupluslinux> by the time the internet was cleansed i was already a dessicated corpse 21:31 < gnupluslinux> salt buffalo. is that like jerky? 21:31 < felda> Does my intellect make you feel small, perhaps? Or are you simpletons always so defensive? Perhaps its an evolutionary adaptation meant to curtail criticism. All of you poo-slinging chum gather together and hurl downvotes at my astute observation. Though, if enough people agree it must be true, right? I must be a fool? Ha, if only. I am mentally superior than the lot of you combined. Your collective brain capacity couldn’t contest even 5% of m 21:31 < felda> y capabilities. But alas, I digress, wondering why I’d even think you incapacitated stew of stupidity could even stand to reason with the likes of me. 21:31 < gnupluslinux> or a buffalo made of living salt 21:31 < tapoxi> yeah but better because it has a managed state 21:31 < tapoxi> no I wouldnt eat a buffalo made of salt 21:32 < felda> LMAO this aint #crude >_> 21:32 < gnupluslinux> https://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20170411162349AAAmn1M 21:32 < tapoxi> Heresiarch: that sounds awful 21:32 < gnupluslinux> > 21:32 < gnupluslinux> it's what's left after they amputate the buffalo wings 21:32 < tapoxi> Heresiarch: did they just install whatever they could find 21:33 < gnupluslinux> felda, i dont recognize that one 21:33 < Heresiarch> tapoxi: looks like. They were having trouble with instance pinning and performance because they were running postgres in a container. #NOPE 21:33 < tapoxi> why the fuck would you run k8s on 2 nodes to run a lamp container 21:33 < Sarah> tsarbomba: cleveland indians 21:33 < tapoxi> christ 21:33 < Church-> Heya tapoxi gnupluslinux 21:33 < felda> gnupluslinux it's fresh from /r/fortnite 21:33 < gnupluslinux> >running postgres in a container 21:33 < gnupluslinux> fucking what now 21:33 < gnupluslinux> hi Church- 21:33 < Heresiarch> tapoxi: shoestring "startup" in a large company. They didn't even have their own AWS account. XD 21:34 < Sarah> gnupluslinux: no, i do not 21:34 < tapoxi> Heresiarch: ugh 21:35 < gnupluslinux> Sarah, did you school them on proper office interview etiquette 21:35 < Heresiarch> tapoxi: best thing was the manager(/CEO of the "startup") was initially worried about me job-jumping. Two months later, they're like, "hey, dude wants to interview you!" 21:35 < Sarah> gnupluslinux: no i'm not doing the interview 21:35 < gnupluslinux> shame 21:35 < Sarah> and i don't think my ceo has the balls to do that 21:36 < tapoxi> s/balls/bells 21:36 <+layer-eight> Sarah meant: "and i don't think my ceo has the bells to do that" 21:36 < gnupluslinux> why is your ceo doing the interview for a guy coming in with a baseball cap lol 21:36 < tapoxi> its the new ceo 21:36 < tapoxi> its zuck in disguise 21:36 < gnupluslinux> mfw Sarah works for a startup 21:37 < tapoxi> Sarah: I thought you did the kerberos 21:37 < gnupluslinux> he _is_ the kerberos 21:37 < gnupluslinux> all the ldaps is him and him alone 21:38 <+NinjaStyle> .seen rkeene 21:38 <+layer-eight> rkeene was last seen Parting from #reddit-sysadmin 2 weeks 5 days 58 minutes 21 seconds ago. 21:38 < gnupluslinux> @quote rkeene 21:39 < felda> .seen cryptic1s-pride 21:39 <+layer-eight> 'cryptic1s-pride' not found. 21:39 < felda> :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 21:39 <+NinjaStyle> .seen crypticjuan 21:39 <+layer-eight> crypticjuan was last seen changing name to alazare619 9 weeks 6 days 16 hours 56 minutes 24 seconds ago. 21:40 < binaryhermit> wait, running AMD K8s? 21:40 < binaryhermit> those should be pretty obsolete 21:40 <+NinjaStyle> i need rkeene 21:41 <+NinjaStyle> i ned halp with smart card implementation theory 21:41 < tsarbomba> i need halp with it being 5pm 21:41 < tapoxi> wow 21:41 < tapoxi> rkeene is gone 21:41 < Sarah> tapoxi: i do rockets now 21:41 < Sarah> gnupluslinux: it is a startup 21:41 <+NinjaStyle> i might text rkeene 21:41 <+NinjaStyle> see if he is ok 21:42 < gnupluslinux> Sarah, i thought you worked at a nasa contractor this entire time tbh 21:42 < Sarah> no 21:42 < Sarah> gnupluslinux: http://generationorbit.com/ 21:43 < gnupluslinux> mfw NinjaStyle doesnt actually have rkeene's number and just text random numbers "R U OK" 21:43 <+NinjaStyle> i do have his number 21:43 <+NinjaStyle> i recommended him for a job at my company a while back 21:44 < gnupluslinux> Sarah, so yall strap rockets onto planes to get the up to speed? 21:44 < tapoxi> >telnet 127.0.0.1:2181 ruok 21:44 < gnupluslinux> holy fuck 21:44 < gnupluslinux> i scrolled down on that site 21:45 < tapoxi> the red text 21:45 < gnupluslinux> fucking CEO crazy wild eyes staring at you 21:45 < tapoxi> is unsettling 21:45 < tapoxi> At GO (we pronounce our name “go”) 21:46 < Church-> Oh wow, Sarah's actually here. 21:46 < Church-> Wadduo 21:46 < Church-> Waddup* 21:46 < Church-> tapoxi: Yeah he's been missing for a few weeks. 21:47 < Church-> Should shoot him a mail. 21:47 <+NinjaStyle> Sarah: yo 21:47 < tapoxi> Sarah: what the fuck do you develop on a rocket 21:47 < Church-> Awesome stuff! 21:47 <+NinjaStyle> Sarah: you done working on kerberos then? 21:49 <+NinjaStyle> i hope rkeene is ok 21:49 < mkillebrew> You're never done working on kerberos. 21:49 < arlion> NinjaStyle: she works on ROCKETS now 21:50 < arlion> you know. like a rocket scientist. 21:50 <+NinjaStyle> like a rocket scientist, but not 21:50 < mkillebrew> I work on my couch 21:50 < arlion> mkillebrew: #lifegoals 21:50 < mkillebrew> sometimes from the breakfast table 21:50 < tapoxi> a friend of mine is a rocket scientist 21:50 < tapoxi> but shes not good at kerbal space program 21:50 < tapoxi> should I trust her rockets 21:50 < arlion> oo.. tapoxi. are we friends? 21:51 < tapoxi> no. 21:51 < arlion> tapoxi: cause that means I would be friends of a friend of a rocket scientis 21:51 < arlion> DAMMIT. 21:51 < arlion> I know a guy who knows a guy who is a rocket scientist. 21:52 < gnupluslinux> it'd be yor #lameclaimtofame 21:52 < tsarbomba> sarah did you kidnap rkeene 21:52 < gnupluslinux> .yt lame claim to fame 21:52 <+layer-eight> YouTube "Weird Al" Yankovic - Lame Claim to Fame - https://youtu.be/o3vBvlT1i_k 21:52 < mkillebrew> I'm a couch scientist. 21:52 < tapoxi> i was in a microsoft ad once 21:52 < tapoxi> thats my shitty claim to fame 21:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> omg I know tapoxi 21:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> he was in a MS ad 21:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> so I know MS by proxy 21:53 < gnupluslinux> mfw tapoxi is the dancing kinect kid 21:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> AMA request: Computer girl from apple commercial 21:54 < tapoxi> i was in a windows signature pc ad 21:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> link 21:54 < arlion> I was once inside your mom.. AMA 21:55 < McDonaldsWiFi> i want to see your beautiful face 21:55 < McDonaldsWiFi> arlion: ayyyy lmao 21:55 < tapoxi> its not on microsoft.com anymore 21:55 < tapoxi> i looked 21:55 < tapoxi> :( 21:55 < McDonaldsWiFi> :( 21:55 < McDonaldsWiFi> LINK OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN 21:55 < McDonaldsWiFi> opps caps 21:56 < tapoxi> arlion: we're now anti-friends 21:56 < McDonaldsWiFi> o shit 21:56 < McDonaldsWiFi> not just "nolonger friends" 21:56 < arlion> tapoxi: that's like arch rivals. 21:56 < McDonaldsWiFi> he's anti friends 21:56 < arlion> You're my Gary to my Ash,. 21:57 < tapoxi> no 21:57 < tapoxi> you dont deserve rival 21:57 < McDonaldsWiFi> _Straffer exits vim by typing "sudo shutdown now" in a second ssh terminal 21:57 < tapoxi> you deserve anti-friend 21:58 < arlion> Anti-friend: When one of your friend is being a jerk and make fun of you. Acting as an friendly enemy against you 21:58 < arlion> Courtesy of urban dictionary.com 21:58 < arlion> tapoxi: so we were friends!! 21:58 < McDonaldsWiFi> when I was little, me and my friends would do horrible shit to each other 21:58 < arlion> I used to know a guy who knew a guy that was a rocket scientist. 21:59 < McDonaldsWiFi> old timers always just said "boys will be boys" or some shit 21:59 < _Straffer> McDonaldsWiFi: alt f4 wouldn't work for some reason 21:59 < _Straffer> nor did ctrl alt delete 22:00 < McDonaldsWiFi> I exit vim by reinstalling the OS 22:00 < _Straffer> I uninstalled virtualbox to close vim 22:01 < McDonaldsWiFi> I quit my job to close it 22:01 < _Straffer> me too 22:01 < _Straffer> Why does Verizon bulk account maintenance not actually DO anything. 22:01 < McDonaldsWiFi> NO U 22:02 < DomLS3> Excuse me, everyone 22:02 < Heresiarch> _Straffer: "We don't have to care. We're the (wireless) phone company." 22:02 < DomLS3> I have very important news to break 22:02 < McDonaldsWiFi> "you can oligobble my balls" 22:02 < _Straffer> Heresiarch: oligobbley 22:03 < _Straffer> DomLS3: /me waits eagerly 22:03 < DomLS3> Windows > Linux 22:03 < DomLS3> That is all 22:03 < tapoxi> i actually tend to delete VMs just to quit stuff 22:03 < tapoxi> I'm too fucking lazy 22:03 < _Straffer> are you trying to cause a riot 22:03 < tapoxi> mac > windows 22:03 < tapoxi> bring it 22:03 < DomLS3> nay 22:03 < DomLS3> Windows > * 22:03 < mkillebrew> he's just letting everyone know what kind of person he is so they'll temper their expectations 22:03 < _Straffer> or cause a bunch of affluent individuals to enter into lively conversation? 22:03 < DomLS3> hard fax 22:03 < tapoxi> I have a touchbar 22:03 < Heresiarch> tapoxi: do you happen to use a displaylink adapter? 22:04 < tapoxi> Heresiarch: nope 22:04 < tapoxi> isnt that the weird USB video output thing 22:04 < Heresiarch> yup. Apparently the latest high sierra release has borked them. 22:06 < tapoxi> ahh, I only have usb-c on this thing anyways 22:06 < tapoxi> so I have native displayport on everything 22:06 < mkillebrew> USB-C is the best USB though 22:07 < tapoxi> i have a little dual-4k usb-c adapter 22:07 < tapoxi> also high sierra borked a ton of shit 22:07 < mkillebrew> I've been all USB-C for years now 22:09 < McDonaldsWiFi> mkillebrew: something something he's playing checkers 22:12 <+MillerBOSS> FBI RAIDS OFFICE OF #reddit-sysadmin 22:18 < tsarbomba> millerboss i'm a little worried about the extent of yr day-drinking 22:18 <+MillerBOSS> Me too 22:18 < Sarah> Church-: hi 22:18 < Sarah> tapoxi: a lot of shit 22:19 <+MillerBOSS> Buh bye 22:19 < Sarah> tsarbomba: rkeen is at my place 22:19 < Church-> Oh cool. 22:19 < tsarbomba> are you keeping him tied up? 22:19 < Church-> ^^^ 22:19 < Church-> If so, send pics. 22:19 < Church-> I wanna photoshop it into things. 22:23 < Sarah> tsarbomba: sometimes 22:31 < snarkadmin> dead in here today 22:31 <+MillerBOSS> Our offices are getting raided. 22:32 <+MillerBOSS> We are all busy helping the FBI 22:32 < Sarah> NinjaStyle: tsarbomba: rkeene is fine. i'm talking to him now 22:32 <+giant_it_burrit> Sarah: how?! 22:32 <+giant_it_burrit> wait 22:32 <+MillerBOSS> Of course he is fine 22:32 <+giant_it_burrit> at your place 22:32 <+giant_it_burrit> oh baby 22:32 < snarkadmin> wait what happened to rkeene 22:32 < Sarah> nothing 22:32 < Sarah> he's going out of the country for a bit 22:32 <+MillerBOSS> This is how #fakenews starts 22:32 <+giant_it_burrit> tcl isnt exportable 22:32 <+giant_it_burrit> not allowed 22:33 <+giant_it_burrit> put him on the no fly list 22:35 <@JollyRgrs> he has to lay low until the feds stop looking for him 22:35 <@JollyRgrs> he's holed up in the embassy right now 22:36 <+giant_it_burrit> embassey suites? 22:36 < DomLS3> .value rkeene 22:36 < DomLS3> eh 22:36 < DomLS3> .value nano 22:36 < DomLS3> the fuck 22:37 < DomLS3> .value nano 22:37 < DomLS3> Current NANO (Nano) value: 4.80 (USD) 22:37 < DomLS3> that's why rkeene has gone missing 22:37 < DomLS3> lmao 22:37 < DomLS3> .value btc 22:37 < DomLS3> Current BTC (Bitcoin) value: 6673.45 (USD) 22:37 < DomLS3> nano was up to $17 at one point 22:38 < mkillebrew> huge surprise, a windows apologist following bitcoin. 22:38 < DrGibby|> it always feels weird applying to new places 22:38 < McDonaldsWiFi> shots fired 22:39 < DrGibby|> .value vi 22:39 < DrGibby|> .value emacs 22:39 < DrGibby|> hmmm 22:39 < mkillebrew> it's just his idiot client 22:39 < DrGibby|> seems they're worthless 22:39 < DrGibby|> tell me something I don't already know 22:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> can't tell if there's bad blood here or not lol 22:40 < DrGibby|> ur bad blood 22:40 < mkillebrew> crypto is for buying drugs and dragon dildos anonymously, not an investment instrument 22:41 < mkillebrew> just gamble like the rest of us with options contracts on leveraged ETFs 22:42 < DrGibby|> or on a boat or in Vegas! 22:43 <+TuxedoJack> mkillebrew: that just went to the crypto-fuckers at my office via Slack 22:43 < mkillebrew> nah, house has better odds then, with options, everyone is equal to lose it or make it 22:43 < mkillebrew> depending on their own risk management and how poor they are to start with 22:44 < tsarbomba> "it's not a bubble!" - last words heard by BTC speculators before the inevitable suicide 22:44 < tsarbomba> s/by/from 22:44 <+layer-eight> tsarbomba meant: ""it's not a bubble!" - last words heard from BTC speculators before the inevitable suicide" 22:47 < _Straffer> So, does anyone have a favorite survey tool? Survey Monkey, Typeform, Google Forms, etc 22:47 < _Straffer> I want to make it so that everyone either participates or gets bugged to death 22:48 < Atusid> Survey Monkey, then. 22:48 <+giant_it_burrit> For what 22:48 < _Straffer> sounds like the most solid option. Typeform looks promising... but I have no experience with it 22:48 < _Straffer> HR stuffs 22:48 <+giant_it_burrit> If you do Google forms it can auto save to drive 22:49 < _Straffer> I am going to use it as well to collect an asset list for workgroup computers floating around in the field 22:49 < _Straffer> Good idea on forms->excel 22:49 < _Straffer> I'm gonna dump an email list from O365, input that into $surveytool, and turn it loose 22:50 < DomLS3> DrGibby|: only works for me shithead 22:50 < DomLS3> .value vi 22:50 < DomLS3> no such thing as vi? 22:51 < tsarbomba> n-stage butthurt up in this mug 22:53 < DomLS3> oops 22:54 < Casteil> welp 22:54 < Casteil> it's only 38f but I think I'm going to try to go get some of the dead leaves off my pool cover 22:54 < DomLS3> That's what you pay slaves to do 22:55 < Casteil> hopefully save myself some effort later in opening the pool 22:56 < Casteil> if only I had the money :P 22:57 < Casteil> I mean, I do 22:57 < Casteil> but I have better things to spend it on 22:57 < DomLS3> Has money to own and operate a pool... doesn't have money for a slave 22:57 < DomLS3> hmmmm 22:57 < Casteil> I bought a house, it came with a pool 22:57 < DomLS3> and you paid a premium on that house because it has a pool 22:57 < Casteil> a pool which I figured I might just have someone come and haul away for free 22:57 < Casteil> ehh, not entirely sure about that 22:57 < DomLS3> wait 22:58 < DomLS3> above ground or in ground 22:58 < Casteil> it's an above ground 22:58 < DomLS3> oh 22:58 < DomLS3> yeah nevermind 22:58 < Casteil> still kind of a nice setup though: https://i.imgur.com/WoZdVYB.png 22:58 < DomLS3> nice deck 22:59 < Casteil> deck is ok lol, not built how I'd like it built 23:00 < Casteil> I'd have poured solid, capped footings so they shed water off the wood... what they did is basically dig a whole, put the 4x4 in the ground, pour concrete around it 23:00 < Casteil> that's not great for longevity and I bet this deck is probably 10-15 years old already 23:00 < DomLS3> That's how I seen a lot of people do it though 23:00 < Casteil> s/dig a whole/dig a hole/ 23:00 <+layer-eight> Casteil meant: "I'd have poured solid, capped footings so they shed water off the wood... what they did is basically dig a hole, put the 4x4 in the ground, pour concrete around it" 23:02 < DomLS3> could have just done s/whole/hole 23:02 < DomLS3> or s/wh/h 23:03 < tsarbomba> above ground pool lol 23:03 < DomLS3> You should make it out of carbon fiber 23:03 < Casteil> http://asociacionjuvenilelcueto.info/wp-content/uploads/deck-footings-deck-footing-installation-deck-footing-depth-georgia-deck-piers.jpg < This is how it should be done 23:03 < DomLS3> much better than wood or aluminum 23:03 < tsarbomba> yeah make it even more likely to fly away during a storm 23:03 < tsarbomba> also, you should use a 3d printer to make your doublewide 23:04 < Casteil> uh 23:04 < Casteil> can you stop being ignorant as fuck for like 3 seconds? 23:04 < tsarbomba> says the guy with the above-ground pool 23:04 < DomLS3> lmfao 23:05 < Casteil> 1. I didn't put it in.. 2. thank fuck it's above ground because that's a lot easier/cheaper to remove 23:06 < tsarbomba> http://www.a1-poolsandspas.com/images/storm_damage_claims_3.jpg 23:06 < Casteil> total cost to repair: $1000 23:07 < Casteil> inground pool gets damaged, total cost to repair: $10,000 23:07 < DomLS3> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/22/article-2297703-18DDCDC9000005DC-902_634x333.jpg 23:07 < Casteil> ^ 23:07 < tsarbomba> ok i just have to know how this happens http://blog.poolcenter.com/designdocuments/dura-mesh-pool-safety-cover.jpg 23:07 < Casteil> that's a pretty crazy case of empty pool / high water table 23:08 < DomLS3> tsarbomba: https://tribktla.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/camarillo-car-into-pool.jpg?quality=85&strip=all 23:08 < tsarbomba> "are you too drunk to park your own automobile? you need this pool cover!" 23:08 < Casteil> that shit happened because the pool was empty and the entire pool structure became a buoy 23:09 < Casteil> (similar crap happens with underground fuel tanks too) 23:09 < tsarbomba> that guy needs a dura-mesh pool cover 23:09 < Casteil> lulz 23:09 < Casteil> yeah, pretty impressed that thing can take the weight of a car. 23:10 < tsarbomba> also: beemer, spanish tiles on the house. 85% chance that's a floridiot 23:10 < Casteil> floriderp or socal 23:13 < tsarbomba> heh. step 1 of the instructions for a universal replacement tv remote: "turn on the TV using the original remote" 23:13 * tsarbomba derpface 23:13 * Casteil turns on tv using hardware button on tv 23:13 < Casteil> FUCK THE POLICE 23:13 < tsarbomba> yolo 23:14 < Casteil> anyway, imma go scoop some leaves til my hands get numb 23:14 < Casteil> be back in 5 lulz 23:14 < tsarbomba> enjoy 23:15 < tsarbomba> i'mma pack up and hit the road. still have like 6 episodes of billions to catch up before the new eps that already aired 23:15 < tsarbomba> read-only monday night 23:17 < DrGibby|> I'mma head home myself 23:17 < DrGibby|> HAHA JK 23:17 < DrGibby|> ALREADY HERE 23:20 < DrGibby|> oh hey some lawyers office got raided 23:20 < DrGibby|> thats interesting 23:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> POL ALERT 23:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> DrGibby|: get that shit outta here DrGibby| 23:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> doube highlight 23:20 < DrGibby|> what? 23:20 < benjgvps> We have wholesale internet access on a regional cable company's network and one area kept having constant problems. It took a lot for them to get a network admin to look at it, then they instantly blamed our routing 23:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> jk 23:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> DrGibby|: <3 23:21 < DrGibby|> you're the one suggesting its POL related 23:21 < DrGibby|> <3 23:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> life is pol 23:21 < DrGibby|> pols closed, has aids 23:22 < benjgvps> A conference call was setup and I was ready to start chewing them out, then I hopped on the call and they backpedaled "Uhhh yeah... We may have forgot to put in a router id in a couple spots and there was a conflict, should be good now kthxbye" 23:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> s/pols closed/I 23:22 <+layer-eight> DrGibby| meant: "I, has aids" 23:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol grammer 23:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> grammar** 23:22 < DrGibby|> you're not wrong tho 23:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> shit I can't even shit post today 23:22 < DrGibby|> :( 23:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> time to go home 23:22 < DrGibby|> GO HOME 23:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> DrGibby|: now I can't cause you told me to 23:23 < McDonaldsWiFi> ill never listen to you 23:23 < McDonaldsWiFi> that's my ninja way 23:23 < DrGibby|> ... 23:23 < DrGibby|> fine, stay at work all night 23:23 < McDonaldsWiFi> :) 23:23 < McDonaldsWiFi> later haters 23:23 < DrGibby|> l8r 23:33 < DomLS3> McDonaldsWiFi: grammer lol 23:42 < Casteil> fuckin' possums 23:42 < Casteil> dude, bro, if you can't fucking swim stay the fuck out of my pool 23:44 < DrGibby|> AIDS 23:45 < DrGibby|> puts on his afrohat 23:46 <+MillerBOSS> .bofh 23:46 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS, BOFH says: Just pick up the phone and give modem connect sounds. Well you said we should get more lines so we don't have voice lines. 23:48 < dragonfleas> shit 23:48 < dragonfleas> my boss walked in and i was asleep in my office 23:48 <+MillerBOSS> I am going to quit "IT" and open a flower shop like Hightower in Police Academy 23:48 < DomLS3> dragonfleas: hopefully he fired you 23:48 < dragonfleas> he said "hey, why are you sleeping?" i told him that i was up drinking all night and he laughed and left my office 23:48 < dragonfleas> is that bad or good? 23:48 <+MillerBOSS> Uhh good 23:48 < DomLS3> Bad 23:48 < DomLS3> it's bad 23:48 < DomLS3> it's all bad 23:49 < dragonfleas> i was up till 3 am playing overwatch, then i got woken up by an earthquake at 5 am 23:49 < Zrane> I haven't been woken up by one in a while. 23:50 < DomLS3> Zrane: The only earthquake I've ever felt is the one your mom caused walking down the hall 23:50 < Zrane> DomLS3, sick burn. 23:51 < DrGibby|> ayyyyy 23:56 < DrGibby|> lol the CEO of my company just got a link to sign up for computta.com 23:56 <+MillerBOSS> Well, did he sign up? 23:57 < DrGibby|> no, thank god 23:57 <+MillerBOSS> Aww come on 23:59 <+MillerBOSS> Lol https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-04-09-16-58-49-Xq.png Sure they did. --- Log closed Tue Apr 10 00:00:02 2018