--- Log opened Thu Apr 12 00:00:03 2018 --- Day changed Thu Apr 12 2018 00:00 < gnupluslinux> where are our resident bots? 00:00 < gnupluslinux> hanging out in their own little bot channel leaving the screaming masses to their own devices? 00:00 < gnupluslinux> im pretty ready to go home... 00:00 < xtensive> 1 more hour 00:02 < xtensive> we lost shoh 00:02 < L3gacy> huh? 00:02 < L3gacy> he was here? 00:03 < xtensive> shoh has quit (Quit: Page closed) 00:03 < L3gacy> :O 00:03 < xtensive> ya he was here earlier 00:03 < L3gacy> that's a rarity 00:03 < gnupluslinux> i figure he's always been here in a different name 00:03 < xtensive> that's a pretty good theory gnupluslinux 00:10 < grumplestiltzki> you should use only 100% silicone to caulk your memory leaks 00:13 < xtensive> .bofh 00:14 < ravioli> gnupluslinux: yeah his alt account is "cryptic1" 00:19 < xtensive> it is currently 78 degrees out, almost a record 00:19 < ravioli> where you at xtensive 00:19 < xtensive> CO 00:20 < xtensive> record is 80 00:20 < xtensive> for April 11th 00:20 <+CheckYourSix> It's gonna be 75-80 on Fri/Sat here too 00:20 < xtensive> good! 00:30 < czarbomba> shoh may be patient zero for the supposition that autism is caused by vaccines 00:30 < czarbomba> but that's only because his mother froze and snorted her MMR vasccine 00:30 < czarbomba> -s 00:31 < czarbomba> *his 00:31 < czarbomba> we need layer-eight back :( 00:35 < L3gacy> czarbomba, and we need tacos 00:36 <@cryptic1> evening 00:37 < czarbomba> how did you escape the gimp trunk cryptic1 00:37 < L3gacy> It was my trunk... shitty lock 00:37 <@cryptic1> czarbomba, I should ask you the same question 00:37 <+CheckYourSix> cryptic1: Why did you kill layer-eight again? 00:37 <+CheckYourSix> You're racist against the bots! 00:37 < czarbomba> ^ 00:38 * czarbomba proposes tariffs on maple syrup and moose hides 00:38 <@cryptic1> i didn't 00:38 <@cryptic1> layer-eight is here 00:38 <+CheckYourSix> s/here/not here 00:39 <+CheckYourSix> Did you mute the bot? Or maybe it was that JollyRgrs guy who takes all the fun away... 00:39 <+shakygator> .seen layer-eight 00:39 < czarbomba> it's cryptic1 100% of the time :( 00:39 * CheckYourSix agrees with proposed tariffs 00:40 <@cryptic1> what did you guys do for it to be muted? 00:42 < czarbomba> i wonder if the rumor is true that the #1 pastime in newfoundland is sheep rape 00:42 < silentfury-s4pro> there are sheep left in newfoundland? 00:42 <@cryptic1> uhh thats a rumor? 00:42 < czarbomba> well of course you're not going to be aware of it since you spend so much time nuts-deep in sheep shank 00:42 < silentfury-s4pro> i thought they moved west because they realized staying was a baaaaaaaaaaaaad idea... 00:43 < czarbomba> maybe the ones remaining like it 00:43 < admiralspark> that was bad silentfury-s4pro 00:43 < silentfury-s4pro> admiralspark: it was very baaaaad. :D 00:44 <+CheckYourSix> cryptic1: It was op abuse, not user abuse 00:44 < czarbomba> yeah, silentfury, ewe really screwed up 00:44 < admiralspark> heh heh heh 00:45 < czarbomba> the rest of the channel has to decide wether you can be forgiven 00:45 < silentfury-s4pro> srsly, the only thing in newfoundland that's worth anything is the majestic views. 00:45 < admiralspark> wait are we still taking digs at cryptic1 ? 00:45 < admiralspark> come back layer-eight 00:45 < czarbomba> maybe we can ram a vote through 00:45 < admiralspark> .seen layer-eight 00:45 <+layer-eight> layer-eight joined #reddit-sysadmin 5 days 23 hours 5 minutes 58 seconds ago. 00:45 < admiralspark> yay! 00:45 < silentfury-s4pro> oh, is cryptic1 from there? 00:46 <@cryptic1> no 00:46 <@cryptic1> I am from the other coast 00:46 <@cryptic1> bc 00:47 < silentfury-s4pro> cryptic1: did you bring cash? 00:47 <+CheckYourSix> BC... The nice part of Canuckstan with all the big mountains and lots of snow 00:47 < czarbomba> s/snow/weed 00:47 <+layer-eight> CheckYourSix meant: "BC... The nice part of Canuckstan with all the big mountains and lots of weed" 00:48 < admiralspark> czarbomba: surprisingly you might be the closest to me :P 00:48 < czarbomba> i'm at the extreme southeastern corner of the usa 00:48 < czarbomba> any further south and we'd be hailing the castro family 00:48 < admiralspark> FlowRidah? My apologies 00:49 < czarbomba> miami. it's where the insane people with iqs over 100 congregate 00:49 < admiralspark> I'm in Alaska so we couldn;t be further apart 00:49 < silentfury-s4pro> can you see russia? 00:49 <+CheckYourSix> czarbomba: Lol! 00:49 <+CheckYourSix> czarbomba: With a major emphasis on Insane 00:49 < Casteil> woo 00:49 < Casteil> got up on my roof after doing some yard work 00:50 < Casteil> good news: 1. didn't die.. 2. roof doesn't look like it needs immediate replacement :D 00:50 < admiralspark> silentfury-s4pro: nah, only Palin can. 00:51 < czarbomba> tfw you're tapping the back of your phone but the lock screen just won't open. then you realize you're doing nothing but smearing up the camera lens and the fingerprint sensor is lower. 01:00 < admiralspark> czarbomba: that wouldn't happen if you were a tsar instead 01:04 <+TuxedoJack> Goddamn fucking tier 2 tech 01:04 <+TuxedoJack> You don't get to fucking offload VPN tickets because "I can't deal with that right now" 01:04 < Stoob> i think they can and did 01:04 <+TuxedoJack> You have four fucking tickets in your queue, all marked as On Hold or Waiting Client Response 01:05 <+TuxedoJack> Pick it back up until you fucking leave, you lazy shitheel 01:05 <+TuxedoJack> Stoob: no, I dropped it back in his queue with a more genteel response 01:06 < admiralspark> TuxedoJack: and cc'd his manager? 01:06 <+TuxedoJack> BCC' 01:06 < admiralspark> Even better 01:06 <+TuxedoJack> And then added an screenshot of his Slack message saying that he couldn't handle it to "People-Ducking-Tickets.docx" 01:07 <+TuxedoJack> And timestamped it 01:07 <+TuxedoJack> Which goes to upper management at the end of the week 01:07 < Stoob> thats harsh yo 01:07 <+TuxedoJack> I don't fucking care 01:08 < dfingers> ConnectWise and garbage MSP's. I don't miss those days 01:08 <+TuxedoJack> In addition to teaching the tier 1s and 2s, handling longer / more involved stuff, and documenting / improving internal processes, I'm still doing 25+ tickets a day 01:08 <+CheckYourSix> Stoob: No, it's not harsh at all. Harsh would be walking to his desk and going off on him and storming back out 01:08 <+TuxedoJack> Those fucking cumchuggers can stop jacking off and start doing work 01:08 <+CheckYourSix> TuxedoJack: You're the one with the chatty ones that don't do anything at all, right? 01:09 <+TuxedoJack> CheckYourSix: yep 01:09 <+TuxedoJack> And I've got a year's worth of weekly ConnectWise reports to back my stuff up 01:11 < admiralspark> Man, I went down that warpath, same situation. 01:11 <+TuxedoJack> I may not have HR power, but damn if I'm not going to do what I can to get these fuckers either working better or fired 01:11 < admiralspark> Helldesk had a few good ones and a few garbage ones. First level management ate up the reports but wasn't given power to do anything about it from upper management 01:11 < admiralspark> ended up jumping ship, haven't looked back :) 01:12 <+TuxedoJack> Eh, I just got 100% telecommute and a $5K raise, so I'm sticking around for a while 01:12 < hug> 25 tickets a day. :x 01:12 < hug> I do like 01:12 < hug> 1 01:12 < hug> Maybe, if that. 01:13 < admiralspark> yeah, all project work for me now too. 01:13 <+TuxedoJack> I'd settle for getting our processes in order 01:13 < hug> I try not to do that either. 01:13 < admiralspark> if it was ticketed to connectwise-levels, maybe a bunch. 01:13 < admiralspark> haha hug what would you say you do here? 01:13 <+TuxedoJack> After the fucking hardware tech wiped a client's SEPM server - which was on a user's desktop, for some fucking reason - I'm nigh-homicidal 01:13 < hug> Browse reddit. 01:13 < Sousapro> SEPM Server... Desktop? 01:14 <+TuxedoJack> I'm either going to improve everything or automate the fuckers out of jobs 01:14 < Sousapro> what the actual hell? 01:14 < Sousapro> TuxedoJack: good idea 01:14 <+TuxedoJack> Sousapro: it was before we took them on, the stupid fucking onsite "IT Coordinator" installed it on a user desktop 01:14 < Sousapro> jesus 01:14 <+TuxedoJack> She let us move it right after I dropped the words "unsupported configuration" and "not an acceptable risk for HIPAA compliance." 01:14 < Sousapro> also I may be sasquatch 01:15 < Sousapro> apparently size 15 motorcycle boots aren't really a thing 01:15 < czarbomba> they aren't? 01:15 < Sousapro> TuxedoJack: magic words lol 01:15 * czarbomba peeks into his foyer closet 01:15 < Sousapro> czarbomba: revzilla has like two pairs 01:15 < Sousapro> most places have like 4 pairs of dirt and 2 pairs of street 01:16 < Sousapro> czarbomba: you're a fellow sasquatchoid? 01:16 < czarbomba> 15EE 01:16 < Sousapro> BROTHER 01:16 * Sousapro turns into hulk hogan 01:17 < admiralspark> you kids and your big feet 01:17 < Jay-Ros> Morning all 01:17 * czarbomba steps on a building 01:17 < Sousapro> czarbomba: where do you get riding boots at? 01:17 < admiralspark> sup Jay-Ros 01:17 < Jay-Ros> Howdy mr Spark, how's tricks? 01:18 < admiralspark> unrelated: Who's ready for python 3 in RHEL 8?! 01:18 < admiralspark> Jay-Ros: tricks are turning! 01:18 <+CheckYourSix> When is RHEL 8 coming? 01:18 < admiralspark> not soon enough. 01:18 < czarbomba> i ordered these online with a backup pair years ago (tcx). i'll have to see if i can find the email receipt 01:19 < czarbomba> i've learned to order more than one pair when i find one i like in my size 01:19 < admiralspark> CheckYourSix: apparently not announced yet, still developing 01:19 < czarbomba> i've got a mini-foot locker in one of my upstairs closets 01:19 < czarbomba> just broke out a new pair of air monarchs for general sneaker user 01:19 < czarbomba> uses 01:20 < Jay-Ros> Unisex training shoes? 01:20 < czarbomba> not many women wear men's 15s 01:21 < czarbomba> not to poop on your dream of finding a giraffe-woman, of course 01:21 < Jay-Ros> Nelly wouldn't be caught dead without his air-force-ones 01:21 < Jay-Ros> .yt nelly air force ones 01:21 <+layer-eight> YouTube Nelly - Air Force Ones ft. Kyjuan, Ali, Murphy Lee - https://youtu.be/BfzsMQGqrt0 01:21 < czarbomba> rocking those 90s references 01:21 < czarbomba> you got anything for nas or 50 cent? 01:22 <+CheckYourSix> s/nas/NWA 01:22 <+layer-eight> czarbomba meant: "you got anything for NWA or 50 cent?" 01:22 < czarbomba> NWA was 80s, no? 01:22 < czarbomba> dre had already gone solo in the early 90s 01:22 < admiralspark> Nobody likes Nas though 01:22 < admiralspark> ;) 01:22 < Jay-Ros> czarbomba - https://www.ebay.com/itm/Reebok-G-unit-G6-shoes-rare-red-white-red-stripe-sz-8-FRESH-50-Cent-/112915638532 01:22 <+CheckYourSix> Yeah 80s. 01:22 < Jay-Ros> Yes. 01:23 < czarbomba> don't matter just don't bite it 01:23 < Jay-Ros> .yt 50 Cent Reebok G-Unit Advert 01:23 <+layer-eight> YouTube 50 Cent Reebok G-Unit Advert - https://youtu.be/M2epB4K1rnc 01:23 < Sousapro> czarbomba: looks like tcx doesn't make many/any boots in 15 now :( 01:24 < czarbomba> that sucks. i've got one new pair in a box left 01:24 < czarbomba> i don't slide the soles much though so i don't really trash boots 01:25 < czarbomba> my buddy who has a gsxr600 spinsaround his plant foot like a douche half the time i see him, he probably goes through his alpinestars like shit through a goose 01:26 < admiralspark> Hey, this may make some of you feel old but I also see it as good news for the future 01:26 <+CheckYourSix> Fuck I'm tired already and it's only 730 01:26 < czarbomba> i turned 42 today. feeling old is an all-day thing 01:26 < czarbomba> maybe all-week 01:26 < Jay-Ros> czarbomba - I'm lazy on the bike - I've got ariat paddock boots 01:26 < admiralspark> the middle-school kids of a coworker yesterday had to be shown what a fax machine was because they'd never used one before or seen one in their life 01:26 < admiralspark> I'm hoping for the same with printers in 10 years 01:27 < Jay-Ros> https://www.horsesports.co.nz/product/ariat-heritage-iii-zip-paddock-boot/ czarbomba 01:27 < Sousapro> admiralspark: aren't we all? 01:27 < xe0n> loll 01:27 <+CheckYourSix> Why can't we eradicate paper at this point? It's 2018. We still use fax machines. Fucking scan and email it! 01:27 < Jay-Ros> but then again, I cruise 01:27 < Sousapro> faps machines 01:27 < arlion[fif]> s/faps/fips 01:27 <+layer-eight> Sousapro meant: "fips machines" 01:27 < arlion[fif]> NOW WITH EXTRA SECURITY 01:27 < Sousapro> NO 01:28 < Jay-Ros> s/fax/farks 01:28 <+layer-eight> CheckYourSix meant: "Why can't we eradicate paper at this point? It's 2018. We still use farks machines. Fucking scan and email it!" 01:28 < Sousapro> dongers 01:28 < Sousapro> now FIPS compliant! 01:28 < arlion[fif]> fips on your faps machine. 01:28 < Jay-Ros> I said fip to the fip the fip the fip floppy floppy 01:28 < czarbomba> just the fip 01:28 < Jay-Ros> you don't damn stop come alive y'all, and give it what you got! 01:29 < admiralspark> CheckYourSix: email-based fax converters ;) 01:29 <+CheckYourSix> Remove anything to do with fax... 01:29 < czarbomba> i still use semaphore to communicate over long distances, fite me 01:29 < arlion[fif]> Anyone know how to lock down lambda so it doesn't answer publicly. 01:29 <+CheckYourSix> s/-based fax converters/ 01:29 <+layer-eight> admiralspark meant: "CheckYourSix: email ;)" 01:29 < admiralspark> Gotta make hipaa crybabys happy though 01:29 < admiralspark> haha 01:29 < Jay-Ros> czarbomba - morse code binary is where it's at! 01:30 < admiralspark> s/email/quantumnetworks 01:30 <+layer-eight> admiralspark meant: "CheckYourSix: quantumnetworks ;)" 01:30 < admiralspark> I can never get spacing to work right when I need to, apparently 01:31 < packeteer> someone refresh my memory... can I use an ssl cert with just the csr, or do I need the private key? 01:32 < admiralspark> it's useless without the private key 01:32 <+CheckYourSix> You need the key... and CSR is not a cert lol 01:32 < admiralspark> packeteer: CSR is a request for a cert though if that helps 01:32 < admiralspark> is this AD-integrated CS? 01:33 < Jay-Ros> fuck my life - why does windows 10's print-to-pdf no longer allow custom fonts for selection? 01:33 < Jay-Ros> I think I might need to roll out cutepdf to the office like a chump 01:33 < sideup66> Jay-Ros: because it doesn't uplink to Microsoft right 01:33 < packeteer> thank, I thought so. but I've got "senior" windows admin telling me I'm wrong :| 01:34 < admiralspark> isn't win10's pdf printer the Microsoft one as opposed to the Adobe one? 01:34 <@cryptic1> Jay-Ros, you really need to stop printing those office its your birthday banners 01:34 < Jay-Ros> cryptic1 - I will use rasterbator.com as much as I damn well want 01:34 < admiralspark> packeteer: wait wait, what he probably means is you submit the CSR, it gives you back a cert and then you automatically sign it locally to get a key 01:34 < Jay-Ros> also we have a banner machine - one of those big fuck-off print roller printers 01:34 < arlion[fif]> brb, switching vpns. 01:34 <@cryptic1> I still have no idea how you get print shop to run in win10 01:35 < Jay-Ros> I've not yet printed off the banner to put at the elevator entrance: " - Your Mum Loves It! 01:35 < admiralspark> cryptic1: CUPS? :P 01:35 < Jay-Ros> cryptic1 - you need to install candy shop first 01:35 < Jay-Ros> .yt candy shop 01:35 <+layer-eight> YouTube 50 Cent - Candy Shop ft. Olivia - https://youtu.be/SRcnnId15BA 01:35 < czarbomba> print shop banners from a dot matrix printer. printing for days. YOLO 01:35 < Jay-Ros> czarbomba - how's that? 01:36 < Jay-Ros> czarbomba - we've got a canon iPF780 36" Large Format Printer 01:36 < packeteer> admiralspark: na, it's the reverse. they gave me the CSR for a wildcard cert. I also need to use that cert 01:37 < admiralspark> oh 01:37 < admiralspark> haaaaah 01:38 < packeteer> they're our msp :/ 01:38 < admiralspark> well, sooooooo 01:39 < admiralspark> I believe if you use the CSR for the request and got a cert back, you can sign it locally. Do you have access to the server? 01:39 < packeteer> no 01:39 < admiralspark> That's what I've always done, but I use site-specific, idk if wildcards need anything extra 01:39 < admiralspark> oh 01:39 < admiralspark> whoever manages the server has to do it 01:39 < packeteer> yup 01:39 < admiralspark> sounds like the MSP needs to get rolling ;) 01:40 < packeteer> yeah, I've sent emails 01:43 < packeteer> I've worked around it on our external facing by using LetsEncrypt, but this is an internal system 01:43 < admiralspark> yeah, was going to recommend that if it was external 01:44 < admiralspark> So you don't have access to the server that needs the cert? Why did they send it to you in the first place? 01:44 < admiralspark> if you do, you can import it with the CSR and sign it locally/generate the key 01:50 < StrongBad> yo anyone in here know about youtube live streaming----I'm getting these random errors "video is unavailable" and the errors history shows this blue line with some peaks but no explanation of what the damn blue line means 01:50 < StrongBad> just "failed to" 01:50 < L3gacy> Is it ok to rage quit by drop kicking your boss in the trachea? 01:50 < L3gacy> Or is that still a felony? 01:50 < dfingers> Why must these people continue putting their tax forms on CD's. I could understand if flash drives were new technology and outrageously priced. Why even bother driving over here when we give you secure upload links specifically so you don't have to drive over here. 01:50 < L3gacy> dfingers, because, on a scale of 1 to 10, people are stupid 01:51 < L3gacy> That's from Dilbert 01:51 < Jay-Ros> L3gacy - I like you. 01:51 < L3gacy> ty :) I like you too, Jay-Ros 01:51 < Jay-Ros> for the dilbert thing, not the throat-destructing thing 01:52 < L3gacy> Por que no los dos? 01:52 < StrongBad> properly preserved CDs can last over 100yrs 01:52 < StrongBad> not sure about a flash drive 01:52 < Jay-Ros> no hablos espanol, companero 01:52 < L3gacy> Flash drives get destroyed by the washer 01:52 < Jay-Ros> I couldn't be bothered doing the ~ 01:52 < admiralspark> The storage environments needed to preserve a cd for 100 years is enough for flash to live much, much longer 01:52 < L3gacy> Mi hablomos un pequito espanol, mi hermano 01:52 < Jay-Ros> mis tetas usted sunando? 01:52 < admiralspark> CD's degrade much faster in still enviro's, comparatively 01:52 < L3gacy> My first language is even english :) 01:52 < L3gacy> It's Russian lol 01:53 < arlion[FIF]> L3gacy: WE GOT A SPY IN THE HOUSE.. RUSSIAN HACKER 01:53 < Jay-Ros> my girlfriend is russian, I fucking hate that language 01:53 < L3gacy> It sounds so angry :D Right? 01:53 < Jay-Ros> I'm white bread aussie, my tongue doesn't hit those parts of the word 01:53 < arlion[FIF]> i bet you stole all the facebook data 01:53 < Jay-Ros> I can knock out arabic and spanish like a fucking poet, but russian pronunciation is impossible 01:53 < L3gacy> I only have a 240 SSD and 1 TB HDD 01:53 < L3gacy> No room 01:54 < L3gacy> I'm learning Arabiq, sadiq 01:54 < L3gacy> :) 01:54 < L3gacy> And Mandarin, as well as sign language 01:54 < Jay-Ros> my favourite word is mo'ak 01:54 < StrongBad> challah snackbar 01:54 < L3gacy> meaning? 01:54 < Jay-Ros> means 'mentally challenged' 01:54 < L3gacy> LOL 01:54 < Jay-Ros> and sounds funny to say too 01:54 < czarbomba> challah challah 01:54 < L3gacy> Shukran, sadiq, for the laugh 01:55 < L3gacy> I fixed a macbook pro for a friend's sister. She came over, in her hijab,etc, skin like alabaster :O 01:55 < L3gacy> I met her on the sidewalk, as she pulled up. She had her hijab off since she was driving with the top down 01:55 < L3gacy> Her hair was so BLACK it was BLUE 01:55 < L3gacy> O_o 01:56 < Jay-Ros> my friend was moving house on the weekend... we drove past a place called 'Hijab World' 01:56 < L3gacy> Her name is Amira :) Meaning "Princess" 01:56 < Jay-Ros> I laughed. He didn't. He's lebanese and it's normal for him :P 01:56 < StrongBad> this sounds like one of those fake stories some basement dweller posts on reddit for that sweet karma L3gacy 01:56 < czarbomba> can a guy be a lebanese 01:56 < L3gacy> When I finished upping her MBP to 16GB and a 240 SSD, she said "shukran" and I responded "afwhan" and she was like, "It's a shame you are not Muslim" 01:56 < L3gacy> Should I post? 01:57 < StrongBad> needs a fantasy ending 01:57 < L3gacy> Her brother said she likes me, but her father is fundamentalist :| 01:57 < czarbomba> "dear penthouse, i wouldn't have believed it if it hadn't happened to me." 01:57 < L3gacy> She's studying Criminal Justice. Has her bachelor's already 01:58 < L3gacy> Same as her brother, Ali. Their brother Ahmet is going for Computer Science and Cyber Security 01:58 < L3gacy> Nice people :) 01:58 < Jay-Ros> L3gacy - you'd have to convert. No joke 01:58 < Jay-Ros> and, like, properly do so 01:58 < StrongBad> is that where you cut off the end of your pinky finger 01:58 < silentfury-s4pro> no woman is worth that. imho. 01:58 < L3gacy> You should see Amira :O 01:59 < L3gacy> O_o 01:59 < Jay-Ros> Like Matt Stone and Trey Parker's 'Orgazmo' when he says 'Jesus and I love you' conversion 01:59 < L3gacy> lol 02:00 < L3gacy> Strongbad, you say "There is but one g_d, Allah, and Muhammed is his prophet" in Arabic in front of another Muslim, basically. 02:00 < StrongBad> is that what I'd need to say to avoid getting beheaded 02:00 < StrongBad> because I heard it's more political than religious 02:00 < L3gacy> That's only extremists 02:01 < L3gacy> like.. .5% of Muslims 02:01 < czarbomba> i don't know if that's how you convert to islam or how you take the oath of office in iran 02:01 < StrongBad> so it's like car crashes L3gacy 02:01 < StrongBad> always wear your seat belt 02:01 < L3gacy> I am about to take the oath of tacos 02:01 < czarbomba> there are 1.6 billion muslims in the world. if islam wanted you dead, you'd be dead. 02:02 < L3gacy> yus 02:02 < czarbomba> people on the coast of myanmar are all like "they're afraid of US?" 02:02 < czarbomba> i think i triggered strongbad. he must be running off to the nearest protestant church 02:03 < L3gacy> Jeebus saves messa life! He's screaming it 02:04 < L3gacy> I see Awesome_Waffle 02:05 < Awesome_Waffle> How much do you see? 02:07 < czarbomba> do you see?!? 02:08 < L3gacy> I see lots 02:08 < czarbomba> DO YOU SEE?!?!? 02:09 < L3gacy> Do you see what I seeeeeee? 02:09 < L3gacy> *sings* 02:09 < Jay-Ros> DO YOU SEE WHAT I SEEEE 02:09 < Jay-Ros> great song 02:09 < L3gacy> yasss 02:09 < czarbomba> https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--4MMtg_Bk--/c_fill,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_center,h_675,q_80,w_1200/lpur2i6nhakfpvv906pj.jpg 02:10 < czarbomba> jeez, what a url 02:10 < Jay-Ros> L3gacy - feel free to knock out some hunters and collectors whenever you want 02:10 < Jay-Ros> also men at work, bronski beat or talking heads 02:11 < L3gacy> Men at work :D 02:11 < czarbomba> jay-ros knows every deep cut by the communards 02:11 < Jay-Ros> what do you mean czarbomba? I don't know what you mean.... 02:11 < Jay-Ros> DON'T LEAVE ME THIS WAY! 02:11 < czarbomba> mhm 02:12 < czarbomba> heh 02:13 < Jay-Ros> I'd even accept some Max Q! 02:13 < czarbomba> i think it's funny how somerville's trademark hairstyle has been appropriated by military types 02:13 < Jay-Ros> .yt don't leave me this way 02:13 <+layer-eight> YouTube THELMA HOUSTON~DON'T LEAVE ME THIS WAY - https://youtu.be/FLzbKm56dLI 02:14 < Jay-Ros> .yt communards don't leave me this way 02:14 <+layer-eight> YouTube The Communards - Don't Leave Me This Way (Official Music Video) - https://youtu.be/5Ha5HrQryLk 02:14 < Jay-Ros> SET ME FRREEEEEEEE 02:14 < sammm> lol, has anyone had windows 2008 r2's netstat just stop displaying TCP connections? 02:14 < sammm> like i run netstat -a and there is ONLY udp... but TCP is working 02:14 < sammm> and now my alerting system is going bonkers 02:15 < L3gacy> O_O 02:15 < czarbomba> anything in event viewer to show if networking shit itself 02:15 < czarbomba> i've never seen that particular set of symptoms 02:15 < czarbomba> although i would expect if the stack froze shit would go pear-shaped quickly 02:16 < czarbomba> jesus i never realized how hard the communards lean on the hi-hat 02:16 < czarbomba> "disco's FAAAABULOUS, we don't care" 02:17 < ivanf> gnupluslinux lol nope always have and used this name 02:17 < ivanf> sorry headed to bed. work at 3:30 am 02:19 < Jay-Ros> sammm - the only thing I can think of is the fact that patching is fucking up NICs at the moment - check out r/sysadmin on the latest patch thread 02:20 < sammm> Jay-Ros: it's a weird one 02:20 < xamithan> If it is virtual the mac address might have changed on the nic 02:20 < xamithan> That happened to one of my servers last night 02:21 < Jay-Ros> ^^that one 02:25 < m4221> Hello fuckers 02:26 < m4221> Errrr....admins 02:26 < zeph1rus> same difference 02:27 < Jay-Ros> I'll take 'fuckers' 02:28 < zeph1rus> colletive noun for sysadmins is a 'bastard' 02:28 < zeph1rus> handily also the noun for a singular project manager 02:28 < Jay-Ros> I thought it'd be a 'cluster' 02:29 < Jay-Ros> or a 'remote cluster' 02:30 < czarbomba> the collective term is "autism", as in "an autism of admins" 02:31 < Jay-Ros> I like it. 02:31 < insecurity> my irc client is telnet 02:35 < mkillebrew> wow look at fancypants and his telnet, too much of a bigshot to use nc? 02:37 < zeph1rus> he can't reply, he's too busy typing PONG responses manually 02:38 < m4221> My insecurity has gone off again 02:39 < insecurity> been a while.. 02:44 < mkillebrew-nc> netcat forever 02:45 < m4221> .g test 02:45 < m4221> Test 02:46 < m4221> s/Test/damn 02:46 < mkillebrew-nc> bot hates you 02:46 <@cryptic1> s/bot/life 02:46 <+layer-eight> mkillebrew-nc meant: "life hates you" 02:47 < m4221> .g test 02:47 <+layer-eight> Google 544,000,000 results found for: " test " 02:47 <+layer-eight> Test - Wikipedia - Test(s) or TEST may refer to: Test (assessment), an assessment intended to measure the respondents' knowledge or other abilities. List of tests. Contents. [ hide]. 1 Science and technology. 1.1 Biology, medicine, and psychology; 1.2 Computing; 1.3 Other uses in science and technology. 2 Arts and media. 2.1 Music; 2.2 Film. : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Test 02:47 < m4221> .g cryptic1_sucks 02:47 <+layer-eight> No any result found for cryptic1_sucks ! 02:47 < czarbomba> i think we're seeing why layer-eight was muted before. 02:48 * czarbomba tases m4221 with a defibrillator 02:48 < m4221> .g "czarbomba sucks" 02:48 <+layer-eight> No any result found for "czarbomba sucks" ! 02:48 < m4221> .g "dennis nedry jurassic park" 02:48 <+layer-eight> Google 836 results found for: " "dennis nedry jurassic park" " 02:48 <+layer-eight> Dennis Nedry | Jurassic Park wiki | FANDOM powered by Wikia - Dennis Nedry was a computer programmer at Jurassic Park. Due to his financial problems and low salary, he accepted an offer from Biosyn to smuggle dinosaur embryos off the island. His last name is an anagram of nerdy. In both the film and the novel, he is devoured by a Dilophosaurus. He didn't... : http://jurassicpark.wikia.com/wiki/ 02:49 < m4221> cryptic1: hey 02:49 < m4221> czarbomba: I got banned from #politics :) 02:50 < Jay-Ros> m4221 - a situation we've all sat there and considered, great google search! 02:51 < m4221> .g "jurassic park system administrator" 02:51 <+layer-eight> No any result found for "jurassic park system administrator" ! 02:51 < m4221> .g "tom arnold jurassic park" 02:51 <+layer-eight> No any result found for "tom arnold jurassic park" ! 02:52 < Jay-Ros> m4221 - joke's on you, it's management that's usually the dinosaurs 02:54 < xe0n> thats newman 02:54 < xe0n> lol 02:55 < xe0n> not tom arnold lol 02:55 < m4221> .g "newman Jurassic park" 02:55 <+layer-eight> Google 61 results found for: " "newman Jurassic park" " 02:55 <+layer-eight> Newman Squeak from Jurassic Park - YouTube - May 4, 2012 ... For years, I wondered if the can made the squeak or if Nedry did it. I can sleep soundly again.. Read more. Show less. Reply 8 9. nika gerz5 years ago. holy fuck i watched this 80 times in a row . Read more. Show less. Reply 3 4. J. degrace2 years ago. Fuck yeah. This is me before an episode of game of ... : https://www.youtube. 02:57 < m4221> xe0n: stfu 02:57 < m4221> Jk 03:02 < m4221> mkillebrew: go away 03:03 < AustinS> strange thing today.. my windows VM that i literally only use for hexchat and a few browser testing (and I installed office, but only downloaded email headers once) had a CPU miner running on it.. 03:03 < mkillebrew> ssh 03:03 < insecurity> um how do i get to yahoo instant messenger from facebook?? i forgot 03:04 < AustinS> randomly got installed a few weeks back. isolated network, with (enough) minimal public access. found it strange :p thought maybe it was my windows install but checked my snapshots post-install and was good 03:04 < AustinS> probably someone else on network when I allowed it to go on the other network with other employees. smh 03:05 < AustinS> insecurity, haven't you heard FB is bad?? /s 03:06 < insecurity> whoa 03:06 < insecurity> is that machine exposed to the world or something? 03:06 < Jay-Ros> hhahaha I was listening to a podcast-thing this morning... they were cracking up that the twitch feed for ZucBot was the best thing on earth 03:06 < AustinS> it has a public IP on a cable modem yeah, but windows firewall was on to the max (obviously I don't trust it) 03:06 < AustinS> nothing threw a fit about it either. obviously it's a throwaway VM for a reason.. but I wasn't enjoying the CPU usage 03:06 < Jay-Ros> real time commentary on ZucBot behaving like a human (drink_water.exe) 03:09 < mkillebrew-nc> ooh I forgot you have to manually PONG 03:16 < mkillebrew> .g 'dongs' 03:16 <+layer-eight> Google 1,280,000 results found for: " 'dongs' " 03:16 <+layer-eight> Do Online Now Guys (DONGs): DONG list (No pictures, No ... - 1513 DONGs. RGB: http://www.rrrgggbbb.com; Ringing Telephone: http://www. ringingtelephone.com; I Can't Sleep: http://www.icantsleep.help; Rafaël Rozendaal: https://www.newrafael.com/websites/; Egg Alone: http://www. eggalone.com; Almost Calm: http://www.almostcalm.com; Mystery Search: https:// mysterysear.ch ... : http://dongs2.blogs 03:17 < Sousapro> .g 'donger dongs' 03:17 <+layer-eight> Google 14,400 results found for: " 'donger dongs' " 03:17 <+layer-eight> Welcome to Donger List - A Donger is a set of unicode characters ... - Welcome to Donger List - Over 600+ Dongers, Emojicons, Kaomoji, Text Faces, Japanese Emoticons, and Kawaii Faces - Updated Daily - A Donger is a set of unicode characters assembled to form a text emoticon. Sometimes also refered to as emojicons, emoticons, kaomoji, kawaii faces, japanese emoticons, or text faces. : http://d 03:17 < mkillebrew> s/[\w]/%00/ 03:17 <+layer-eight> Sousapro meant: ".%00 '%00%00%00%00%00%00 %00%00%00%00%00'" 03:18 < mkillebrew> oh right it'd be \0 03:18 < mkillebrew> .heml 03:18 < mkillebrew> .help 03:18 < Sousapro> .bofh 03:18 <+layer-eight> Sousapro, BOFH says: system has been recalled 03:19 < mkillebrew> s/[/w]/\\0/ 03:19 < mkillebrew> s/[\w]/\\0/ 03:19 <+layer-eight> Sousapro meant: ".\0\0\0\0" 03:20 < mkillebrew> fucker, just be null 03:20 < mkillebrew> s/[\w]/\0/ 03:20 < mkillebrew> ok now I'm bored 03:21 < mkillebrew> I was looking at old SGI systems on ebay 03:24 < AustinS> wanna buy an old A10 load balancer?? :) ha 03:29 < Jay-Ros> Does anyone have knowledge on SCCM who can throw in - Is site heirarchy necessary / useful? 03:30 < Jay-Ros> I've got a 'blob' poorly managed SCCM environment, and configuring some essentials (like adding the GPO to install the client on machines) 03:33 < The_Dv8or> I find it unbelievably stupid that SCCM requires a client 03:34 < The_Dv8or> or that it needs to be installed separately, rather than Microsoft building that shit deep into the OS 03:36 < Jay-Ros> Absolutely. Something about having domain authority and directly being a part of Microsoft as a whole, there should be a compatibility level 03:37 < Jay-Ros> ...but that's where the size of microsoft means internal API-esque management connectivity isn't a group project 03:38 < The_Dv8or> I kinda hate that I have to learn the ins and outs of SCCM 03:38 <+NinjaStyle> weird, was on doordash and i liked the map but its some fancy pants service called mapbox that i cant just browse 03:38 < Casteil> mkillebrew: damn I need to find a new FFL that'll do transfers for online purchases 03:39 < Casteil> this one only being open thurs/fri/sat is a bunch of bullshit.. 03:39 < Jay-Ros> I legitimately have the excuse that I have a 'too hard right now' basket for things like SCCM; understaffed and I acknowledge that getting on top of it will help with other things, but I'm also looking at decomming a 2008 R2 / VMWARE infrastructure on top of daily business 03:39 < Casteil> my p365 might've shipped already if they'd responded to my request for them to send brownells their FFL license 03:39 < Jay-Ros> among a million other things that just need to be done 03:43 < czarbomba> hello again, professional shake weight users 03:43 <+NinjaStyle> gotta train 03:44 < rpifan> czarbomba, 03:44 < czarbomba> i've heard that motion is excellent for seeing big gains in the forearm. 03:44 < czarbomba> but only on one side 03:45 < czarbomba> hence why hunterkll's right arm looks like popeye's but his left arm is more like olive oyl 03:56 < suttin> Hey, I'm getting ready to turn on selinux enforcing on 200+ servers. I did turn on permissive about 3 months ago so hopefully I'll catch everything. Is there a tool I should look at to manage this centrally. If this works well, we might get asked to turn it on in the rest of the environment (~3000) systems. 04:03 < DLSteve> RIP. 04:03 < suttin> Sweet 04:03 < DLSteve> Do you have some form of central logging to look at the violations in permissive mode? 04:05 < mkillebrew> targeted or mls? 04:06 < suttin> DLSteve: yes. mkillebrew what's easiest to manage 04:06 < mkillebrew> targeted is retarded easy 04:06 < suttin> Targeted it is 04:06 < mkillebrew> MLS is "you're not going to work until I write you a policy" 04:06 < suttin> Oh fuck all that 04:07 < mkillebrew> that's what I ran 04:07 < mkillebrew> two jobs back? 04:07 < suttin> Maybe if there's a targeted system, but fuck all that 04:08 < suttin> Our devs and app teams couldn't follow a standard strict enough to make that manageable 04:08 < mkillebrew> no, probably not. 04:09 < mkillebrew> that's the only thing I had issues with was the in-house software; that was also the motivation to enforce selinux in MLS mode. 04:09 < suttin> And I run puppet everywhere, so hopefully that will be easier to maintain 04:10 < suttin> Can you not write policies in targeted? 04:10 < mkillebrew> sure you can 04:11 < suttin> So how fucked am i 04:11 < sideup66> led zeppelin 04:11 < sideup66> r 04:11 < sideup66> o 04:11 < sideup66> v 04:11 < sideup66> e 04:11 < sideup66> r 04:12 < mkillebrew> Do you see a lot of denials in your audit log? 04:13 < suttin> I haven't checked yet. I'm afraid 04:13 < mkillebrew> you know how to use audit2allow and make policy modules? 04:13 < suttin> Yeah 04:14 < mkillebrew> mark your log, do all the things the server needs to be able to do, then look at deny from mark to now, pick out what you need to allow, audit2allow it 04:14 < suttin> Then, I get to work on host based firewalls 04:14 < suttin> Then I get to work on hosts.allow 04:14 < mkillebrew> you shouldn't have to unless you're running some stupid crap, there are otherwise vanilla policies you can snatch 04:14 < suttin> And .deny 04:14 < mkillebrew> who the fuck still uses hosts.allow 04:15 < suttin> P sure I'm going to set them both to all: all 04:15 < suttin> Because we don't have time to manage that 04:15 < mkillebrew> ... 04:16 < mkillebrew> or just don't touch it 04:16 < suttin> And the policy says that .deny has to be all all and .allow has to be configured 04:16 < mkillebrew> do you even use inetd tcp wrappers that would read those? 04:16 < suttin> I'm dealing with a security team that has no idea what any of this means 04:16 < suttin> Ll 04:16 < suttin> Oops 04:19 < mkillebrew> do you use xinetd? 04:20 < mkillebrew> I don't think TCP wrapper hosts.* is in DOD STIG anymore 04:21 < suttin> No we don't, but policylol 04:21 < mkillebrew> push back 04:22 < mkillebrew> it simply doesn't apply unless you run your services out of xinetd 04:22 < mkillebrew> tell them to RTFM, read DOD STIG for your distribution, and not be a fucking cunt 04:24 < suttin> Push back is weeks worth of work. Clever interpretation and implementation is 10 minutes. 04:24 < mkillebrew> fine, do whatever 04:24 < mkillebrew> then push back after you do meaningless garbage to hosts.allow 04:25 < suttin> We'll both are going to get the all all rule 04:25 < suttin> So it still won't do anything but it checks the box that it's configured 04:25 <+NinjaStyle> what compliance thing are you working on? 04:25 < mkillebrew> does it check .rhosts too? 04:25 < suttin> Not sure 04:26 < mkillebrew> echo "+" > /root/.rhosts 04:26 < mkillebrew> see if they notice 04:27 < mkillebrew> or was it ++ 04:27 < mkillebrew> I don't even have that man page on here anymore 04:28 < mkillebrew> yeah -- echo "+ +" > /root/.rhosts 04:29 < mkillebrew> if security doesn't catch that, call them out on it, they'll reply that rlogin isn't used. no shit, neither is xinetd's tcp wrappers for hosts.allow 04:29 < suttin> Lol guess what. This hardening guide says to make sure xinetd is disabled 04:29 < mkillebrew> then tell them I said they're all cunts 04:29 < mkillebrew> well what the actual fuck then 04:30 < suttin> Well it says to disable it if you're not using it 04:30 < suttin> Who the fuck uses it still though 04:30 <+NinjaStyle> what is the driver for what youre doing suttin ? 04:31 < suttin> Government contact 04:31 < suttin> Contract 04:31 < mkillebrew> so... DoD STIG? 04:31 <+NinjaStyle> what type of compliance? 04:31 < mkillebrew> or did whatever just make up their own cert process 04:32 < suttin> I'm not sure what type of compliance. We had to attest that we have a hardening policy, and someone from the infosec team decided we would use the cis benchmarks 04:33 < suttin> And then some asshole on the risk team said "the only way we can put in an exception for something is if it can't technically be done" 04:33 < suttin> Fuck making sense or having headcount for this shit 04:34 <+NinjaStyle> sounds like someone is overreacting 04:34 < mkillebrew> I have a kickstart file somewhere to do STIG that I wrote 04:34 < mkillebrew> and MLS fancyness 04:34 < suttin> I've puppetized most of it 04:35 < mkillebrew> puppet is for chumps, salt rules 04:35 < suttin> Meh 04:35 < suttin> It gets the job done 04:36 < suttin> I'm not tied to a tool, but it's what we had already 04:36 < catbeard> he's the hero our city... has... 04:36 <+AnonymooseReddtr> sup 04:37 < nohusuro> so uhh. Yesterday, our WSUS server sync has 3180 new updates in it. I assume that's something to do with the latest microsoft exploit which allows remote attackers to take control and that even affects the microsoft keyboard :P 04:37 <+AnonymooseReddtr> lol 04:37 < nohusuro> they must be updating literally everything 04:37 < suttin> mkillebrew: oh nice. Two rules to add on this system 04:37 <+NinjaStyle> that seems really high 04:37 < suttin> What a pleasant surprise 04:37 <+AnonymooseReddtr> yeah it does ninja 04:38 < nohusuro> NinjaStyle: tell me about it 04:38 * AnonymooseReddtr is drunk 04:38 <+AnonymooseReddtr> rough day 04:38 < nohusuro> it was so high the server failed to sync 04:38 < suttin> And one of them is a satellite service so it's a global policy I can set 04:38 < catbeard> the server got so high... 04:38 < nohusuro> could be an incompatibility between the WSUS cleaner script and the latest updates or something 04:38 < nohusuro> though this is the first time I've ever seen a sync that high 04:39 < nohusuro> catbeard: pro tip, don't grow weed in your server room 04:39 <+AnonymooseReddtr> lol nohusuro 04:39 < catbeard> no need, just set it on the CPU and watch your NOC monkeys fall asleep 04:39 <+AnonymooseReddtr> its too cold in the server room for the weed 04:39 <+AnonymooseReddtr> i'm in denver right now... so much weed 04:39 <+AnonymooseReddtr> not my thing though 04:40 <+NinjaStyle> AnonymooseReddtr: oh yeah? 04:40 < nohusuro> AnonymooseReddtr: not in the back aisle 04:40 <+NinjaStyle> wanna get a beer? 04:40 < nohusuro> hot aisle* 04:40 <+AnonymooseReddtr> lol nohusuro 04:40 <+AnonymooseReddtr> NinjaStyle ur in denver? 04:40 <+NinjaStyle> yeah 04:40 <+AnonymooseReddtr> hrmph. i'm already drunk but ... u free tomorrow? 04:40 <+NinjaStyle> yeah i think so 04:40 <+AnonymooseReddtr> aight i'll hop on here tomorrow after werk 04:40 <+NinjaStyle> cool cool 04:41 <+NinjaStyle> you staying in the city? 04:41 <+AnonymooseReddtr> yeah just off the 16th st mall 04:41 <+NinjaStyle> oh nice 04:41 * arlion[FIF] writes down notes... 04:41 * arlion[FIF] is not the FBI 04:41 <+AnonymooseReddtr> heh arlion 04:41 <+AnonymooseReddtr> NinjaStyle yeah its nice down here 04:41 < catbeard> totally no logbots here 04:41 <+AnonymooseReddtr> i went to Yard House? tonight for supper 04:41 < nohusuro> do any of you have your printers or other third party manufacturer devices in a separate VLAN? 04:41 <+AnonymooseReddtr> beer was good 04:42 < catbeard> nohusuro: you should 04:42 <+NinjaStyle> yeah yard house has a ton of beer 04:42 <+NinjaStyle> food isnt bad either 04:42 <+AnonymooseReddtr> yeah i was surprised 04:42 < catbeard> NinjaStyle: flying saucer > * 04:42 < nohusuro> catbeard: I isolate the ones where there's no ability for me to configure them 04:42 < nohusuro> such as the timeclocks we have 04:42 <+AnonymooseReddtr> we have a small office here 04:42 <+AnonymooseReddtr> so had to come for a visit 04:42 < catbeard> beer and food are excellent there if you have one nearby 04:43 < catbeard> they even have bratwurst plates and MEADE 04:43 <+AnonymooseReddtr> meade? yum 04:43 <+NinjaStyle> AnonymooseReddtr: cool, it was a pretty nice day today too, i've been trapped inside all day 04:43 <+AnonymooseReddtr> yeah it was beautiful 04:44 < mkillebrew> suttin: are those two rules part of an existing policy modules you can install? 04:44 <+DrGibby|> hello fam 04:44 <+AnonymooseReddtr> sup DrGibby| 04:45 < suttin> mkillebrew: maybe 04:45 <+NinjaStyle> AnonymooseReddtr: well cool, hit me up tomorrow if youre down, we could roll by union station if you havent been in that area yet 04:45 <+DrGibby|> hello AnonymooseReddtr 04:45 <+AnonymooseReddtr> NinjaStyle that sounds cool. I've been there but not for any length of time? I took the train from the airport 04:45 <+AnonymooseReddtr> i needed a few beers today :( some days i hate being the manager 04:45 < mkillebrew> be easier to maintain that way 04:46 * DrGibby| gives AnonymooseReddtr several beers 04:46 <+AnonymooseReddtr> thx gibby 04:46 < mkillebrew> snatch the policy source rpm and grep -R it 04:47 <+DrGibby|> interview at new place next week 04:47 < suttin> It's a rhel satellite service. So I'm sure there's one out there 04:47 <+DrGibby|> I am fucking stoked 04:48 <+NinjaStyle> DrGibby|: what place 04:48 <+DrGibby|> a F30 company 04:48 < Church-> DrGibby|: Tommorow for me. 04:48 < Church-> Grats! 04:48 <+DrGibby|> nice, Church-! 04:48 <+AnonymooseReddtr> cool 04:48 <+AnonymooseReddtr> congrats 04:48 < suttin> DrGibby|: what's the infrastructure looks 04:48 < suttin> Like 04:48 <+NinjaStyle> DrGibby|: remote? 04:48 <+DrGibby|> and congrats to you too Church-! 04:48 <+AnonymooseReddtr> suttin - shit 04:48 <+AnonymooseReddtr> lol 04:48 <+DrGibby|> NinjaStyle: on site, I'm ok with that 04:48 <+AnonymooseReddtr> i dunno if i'd want to work for a huge place like that 04:49 <+NinjaStyle> DrGibby|: where at? 04:49 <+AnonymooseReddtr> you are employee # 384829 ... nothing more 04:49 <+DrGibby|> suttin: unsure, its a BIG company 04:49 <+DrGibby|> NinjaStyle: State Farm 04:49 <+AnonymooseReddtr> ... 04:49 <+AnonymooseReddtr> is ur name jake 04:49 <+AnonymooseReddtr> oh 04:49 <+AnonymooseReddtr> dude 04:49 <+DrGibby|> hurrrr duuurrrr 04:49 < Church-> AnonymooseReddtr: I mean that's how it is with every job. 04:49 <+AnonymooseReddtr> wear beige pants and a red shirt to your interview 04:49 <+NinjaStyle> well, insurance is where the money is they say 04:49 < Church-> Lol 04:49 <+DrGibby|> AnonymooseReddtr: nah 04:49 <+AnonymooseReddtr> lol 04:49 <+NinjaStyle> i interviewed for farmers once 04:50 <+NinjaStyle> the recruiter was a cunt 04:50 < suttin> Oh fun out in the middle of no where il 04:50 < suttin> I've heard ok things though 04:50 <+AnonymooseReddtr> housing is cheap at least 04:50 < suttin> Yeah 04:50 <+DrGibby|> WE. ARE. FARMERS. BUM DIDDA BUM DIDDA BUM BUM BUM 04:50 < voidstar> oh god 04:50 <+AnonymooseReddtr> lol DrGibby| 04:51 <+DrGibby|> suttin: prob Houston or Phoenix tbh 04:51 <+AnonymooseReddtr> fun 04:51 <+DrGibby|> yee 04:52 <+AnonymooseReddtr> oldjob emailed me and asked if i could help with some mailbox migration work today 04:52 <+NinjaStyle> DrGibby|: is it pentest? 04:52 <+DrGibby|> NinjaStyle: a bit of red teaming yeah 04:52 <+AnonymooseReddtr> cool 04:52 <+AnonymooseReddtr> that sounds interesting 04:53 * Casteil red teams DrGibby|'s mom 04:53 <+AnonymooseReddtr> lol Casteil 04:53 * DrGibby| farts on Casteil 04:53 < voidstar> everyone has to earn their red wings at least once in their life 04:54 <+DrGibby|> just once? 04:54 < voidstar> s/at least/only 04:54 <+layer-eight> voidstar meant: "everyone has to earn their red wings only once in their life" 04:55 * Casteil throws a circular saw blade at dr 04:55 < Casteil> DrGibby| * 04:55 * DrGibby| installs it in his tablesaw 04:56 < Casteil> I should go to bed... I've been in a sort of bookmark clicking loop for the last hour plus 04:56 <+DrGibby|> Casteil: IRC for hours 04:56 < Casteil> DrGibby|: joke's on you, it was a 12" 04:56 <+DrGibby|> its what us nerds do 04:56 * DrGibby| installs it on his chopsaw 04:56 < Casteil> touche 04:57 * DrGibby| lubes the chopsaw 04:57 * DrGibby| cops Casteil with his chopsaw 04:57 <+DrGibby|> err 04:57 <+DrGibby|> chops 04:58 * Casteil runs DrGibby| through a thickness planer 04:58 < Casteil> actually, no 04:58 < Casteil> that's one of my most expensive tools 04:58 < Casteil> and it's shiny and new 04:58 < Casteil> actually 04:58 < Casteil> I have the old one 04:58 <+AnonymooseReddtr> ... 04:58 * Casteil runs DrGibby| through that one instead 04:58 <+AnonymooseReddtr> woodchipper? 04:58 * DrGibby| runs Casteil's hands through his joiner 04:58 < Casteil> AnonymooseReddtr: no, thickness planer 04:58 < Casteil> this is my old one: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/816l2BGa5BL._SX355_.jpg 04:59 < suttin> I'm pretty excited about my job now. New boss wants to innovate everything. Containers, full end to end automation, sprints. 04:59 * voidstar slowly backs away from ##woodworking 04:59 < Casteil> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Vn2AcbSvv4w/U34AK288tnI/AAAAAAAAC7s/Hc0hs1Pe0Tk/s1600/IMG_1393.JPG < This is what I got for a shiny new one :D 04:59 * DrGibby| runs voidstar's head through his bandsaw 04:59 <+AnonymooseReddtr> suttin..so devoops? 04:59 < suttin> Ye 04:59 <+DrGibby|> Casteil: whats the max thickness on that? 05:00 <+AnonymooseReddtr> nice 05:00 < Casteil> suttin: innovate or automate :P 05:00 < voidstar> DrGibby|, which band did you saw? 05:00 < suttin> Casteil: both 05:00 < Casteil> DrGibby|: ~6" 05:00 <+DrGibby|> it looks like its fucking insane 05:00 < Casteil> 13" wide board 05:00 <+DrGibby|> oh 05:00 <+DrGibby|> I'll have to take a pick of the planer I have 05:00 < suttin> And he wants me to be the face for bringing in the container platform. Where he wants all of our stuff to live 05:00 <+AnonymooseReddtr> uh oh 05:00 <+AnonymooseReddtr> settin you up to fail :D 05:00 < Casteil> I just have a cheapish old 6.25" craftsman benchtop jointer 05:01 <+DrGibby|> its an oldschool craftsman (when they were good) one 05:01 < Casteil> bought mine for $175 from a guy on craigslist that took pretty good care of it 05:01 < Casteil> (the craftsman jointer) 05:01 <+DrGibby|> iirc it can handle something dumb like 24" wide and 9" high? 05:01 < Casteil> a **planer**? 05:01 < suttin> AnonymooseReddtr: no he did that at his last job and got fucked over on play so he left. There's nothing we do or offer that can't be a container 05:01 < suttin> On my team at least 05:01 <+DrGibby|> have a planer, too 05:02 <+DrGibby|> 6" or 7" iirc 05:02 <+DrGibby|> its been a while 05:02 <+AnonymooseReddtr> all good suttin just bein funny 05:02 <+DrGibby|> prob the two least used tools in the shop tbh 05:02 < Casteil> thickness isn't really super important on planers, it's more about width and how quality they are 05:03 <+DrGibby|> quality is prob 8/10, width is something dumb like 24" 05:04 < Casteil> that's industrial scale for a planer heh 05:04 * DrGibby| shrugs 05:04 < Casteil> what I'd like is an open-ended drum sander 05:04 <+DrGibby|> I'm 90% sure I'm off on measurements but its a BIG planer 05:04 <+DrGibby|> god yes 05:04 < Casteil> something like 18 or 24 inches so I could do up to a 36 or 48" wide board 05:04 < Casteil> (tabletop) 05:05 * DrGibby| is erect 05:05 < Casteil> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LY47GWE?tag=wmtogr-20 < Even something relatively cheap like this 05:06 < Casteil> just an example, I'm sure there's probably better options 05:06 <+DrGibby|> tbh every time i deal with some cheap its the motors that cant keep up 05:06 <+DrGibby|> put a 12" board across the entire belt and you hear the motor suffer 05:07 < Casteil> my old planer was like that 05:07 <+DrGibby|> shit equipment 05:07 < Casteil> haven't used the new one all that much but it took an 8" piece of hard, dry oak without bogging 05:07 <+DrGibby|> I hate that, gimme more POWER 05:07 * DrGibby| hoots likes Tim the toolman 05:07 < Casteil> lol 05:07 < Casteil> I would kind of like a floor standing jointer 05:07 < Casteil> like an 8" with a longer bed than my little bench top one 05:07 <+DrGibby|> thats the kind I have 05:07 < catbeard> btw you slack-ers better get on metacert 05:08 < Casteil> benchtop one is hard to do things much longer than 4 feet on 05:08 < catbeard> or i'll just /remind you lulz 05:08 < Casteil> https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/tls/d/starrett-0-1-ratchet-thimble/6558682982.html < that's pretty cheap for a starrett micrometer 05:08 < Casteil> not that I need one lol 05:09 <+DrGibby|> hey catbeard? 05:09 < Casteil> http://www.starrett.com/metrology/product-detail/Outside-Micrometers/Micrometers/Precision-Hand-Tools/Precision-Measuring-Tools/230fl 05:09 < Casteil> god damn maybe I should, they're like $200 new 05:10 < catbeard> DrGibby|: wutup 05:10 <+DrGibby|> fuck off with your slack shit, this is IRC. 05:10 < catbeard> i got mattermost/riotim 0day too 05:11 < catbeard> so take your pick 05:11 <+DrGibby|> none of the above? 05:11 <+DrGibby|> how about IRSSI and a decent irc server? 05:12 < catbeard> what do you just tell your employees to "get on irc fgt" and join #topsecret 05:12 < catbeard> also, define decent irc, there's plenty of 0d in popular daemons 05:12 <+DrGibby|> if my team can't do that, I shouldn't be employing them 05:12 < voidstar> I tried that with the computer science club in college. they laughed and chose discord 05:13 < catbeard> voidstar: now who's laughing? 05:13 < sadbox> catbeard: tbh IRC is kinda horrible 05:13 < sadbox> user-experience wise 05:13 < voidstar> who uses irc for user-experience? 05:14 < catbeard> DrGibby|: came across a nice one the other day having to do with channel mode integer parsing bugs 05:14 <+DrGibby|> InspIRCd/Atheme comes to mind 05:14 < sadbox> voidstar: More like "who doesn't use IRC because of user experience" 05:14 < catbeard> unreal actually 05:14 < sadbox> voidstar: the answer is pretty much everyone 05:15 < catbeard> my exp is pretty nice, got my irc client configured nice with tor and sasl, etc.. 05:15 <+DrGibby|> unreal used to be *the* thing years ago 05:15 < sadbox> catbeard: Mine is too 05:15 < sadbox> BUT 05:15 < sadbox> nobody wants to set up what I did 05:15 <+DrGibby|> hell, even ran like 4 unreal IRCds 05:15 < catbeard> DrGibby|: i used to run an IRC hosting co 05:15 < voidstar> every programming/sysadmin/topic focused discord I've been in, is horrible. memes everywhere, nothing gets done, and everyone is 13 05:15 < sadbox> catbeard: mine is ZNC + textual 05:15 < sadbox> got push notifications and shit 05:15 <+DrGibby|> catbeard: NOICE 05:15 < enix> sadbox: good to know 05:16 < enix> sadbox: is it every time you get tagged in a message or something 05:16 < catbeard> weechat + screen with pusher, thinking of maybe converting to lounge 05:16 < sadbox> enix: naw 05:16 <+DrGibby|> screen+irssi tbh was my fav setup 05:16 < sadbox> enix: It tracks how recently I've been active 05:16 <+DrGibby|> provided you weren't in 500 channels 05:16 < enix> sadbox: that's what layer-eight does 05:16 < sadbox> enix: and has blacklists and junk 05:16 < sadbox> DrGibby|: I am in 500 channels :/ 05:17 <+DrGibby|> well, yeah, some dickhead fucked with layer-eight and its now not voiced so... 05:17 < enix> sadbox: which ones? 05:17 < catbeard> same, just not on a single session 05:17 <+DrGibby|> sadbox: I am too :/ 05:17 < sadbox> well, more like 50 or so 05:17 < sadbox> enix: mostly open source projects 05:17 < sadbox> varios shit I've found broken over the years 05:17 < catbeard> some of which i'm not actually joined to, just being relayed back 05:18 < enix> sadbox: that's a lot of irc channels. would be a shame if someone wrote a bot to messaged you in every single of them 05:18 <+DrGibby|> which is why I moved to, and please dont hate me, irccloud for my more public chans and I keep my irssi instance on for the chans/servers where I need logs not to leak 05:18 < enix> sending push notifications for each 05:18 < sadbox> enix: I would probably just turn off push notifications 05:18 < sadbox> I don't really care that much 05:18 <+DrGibby|> i dislike what irccloud is doing but their service is ok. 05:19 <+DrGibby|> if I need something secure, I drop it into my irssi instance 05:19 < enix> pretty sure this channel is publically logged anyway 05:19 <+DrGibby|> exactly 05:19 <+DrGibby|> we're on a public server 05:19 < sadbox> DrGibby|: I have a few people on my znc instance so I justify keeping it up that way 05:20 < enix> DrGibby|: i'll publically serve you in a sec 05:20 < catbeard> DrGibby|: users there are too trackable 05:20 * DrGibby| farts on enix 05:20 < catbeard> private servers are tits 05:20 < Casteil> DrGibby|: damn I might have to bring more cash... I think that same guy is selling a bunch of engineering stuff for cheap 05:20 < catbeard> especially fuzzed and hardened daemons 05:20 < Casteil> rather, machinist stuff 05:20 <+DrGibby|> catbeard: users where? 05:20 < catbeard> irccloud 05:20 < enix> windows firewall is turned off, named pipes enabled, ip's enabled, can't get PC2 to talk to PC1's sql instance with ssms 05:20 < enix> taking suggestions 05:20 <+DrGibby|> yeah, thats a given 05:21 <+DrGibby|> I'm not worried about that 05:21 <+DrGibby|> considering I'm not using it on nets where I'm trying to not be tracked 05:22 < catbeard> ya 05:22 < enix> i just tunnel my network 05:23 < enix> boss is non-the-wiser. They think I'm a security expert here because I have a 20 character long password 05:23 < enix> So they see "SSL" in their palo alto and think I'm just using SSL websites only, which would check out. 05:24 < catbeard> openvpn on port 443 eh? thank goodness they're not looking for long-lived connections 05:24 < enix> socks proxy going through a vps 05:25 < enix> will switch to squid one day 05:25 <+DrGibby|> catbeard+++ 05:25 <+DrGibby|> or SSH over 443 05:25 < enix> ssh target -D1337 05:25 < catbeard> there's 443/UDP legitimate uses 05:25 < catbeard> with certain webserver software 05:25 <+DrGibby|> HOW DO YOU KNOW MY PORTS? 05:25 * DrGibby| runs doom 05:25 < catbeard> could totally ld_preload that bitch 05:26 * enix sniffs DrGibby|'s port 666 05:26 * DrGibby| sneezes 05:26 < s2dExchange> Hey guys, does anyone have experience with exchange 2013? It's hosted in a server 2012 hyper-V. 05:26 < enix> s2dExchange: there's your problem 05:26 < s2dExchange> Sorry to barge in, having a melt down cause the VM crashed due to windows update. 05:27 < enix> s2dExchange: version incompatibility 05:27 < enix> s2dExchange: Exchange 2013 has an extra bit per byte over Server 2012 hence the name 05:27 <+AnonymooseReddtr> s2dExchange.. what guest OS? 05:27 <+AnonymooseReddtr> lol enix 05:27 <+DrGibby|> s2dExchange: no need to apologize, some of us are here to help. We were bullshitting anyway. 05:27 < enix> AnonymooseReddtr: lol AnonymooseReddtr it's Server 2012 05:27 < s2dExchange> server 2012r2 for exchange 05:27 < enix> DrGibby| helping 05:27 * enix sniggers 05:28 < s2dExchange> sorry, im a new jr system admin. Just started last month 05:28 <+AnonymooseReddtr> ending this month? 05:28 < enix> LOL 05:28 <+AnonymooseReddtr> so 05:28 < s2dExchange> I helped setup a new exchange server last night and backed up everything that was on the old one. UPS took a dump last night and old server died 05:28 <+DrGibby|> enix: some of us do, occasionally. 05:28 <+AnonymooseReddtr> ok 05:28 < s2dExchange> so I set up the DAG for the second server just in time 05:28 <+AnonymooseReddtr> but? 05:28 < s2dExchange> We got the first server back up and running but Sr. Admin decided to do updates 05:28 <+AnonymooseReddtr> also dag is not a backup ? but ok 05:29 < s2dExchange> update killed the second server while seeding to first 05:29 < enix> Your senior is a cunt 05:29 <+AnonymooseReddtr> haha 05:29 <+AnonymooseReddtr> well 05:29 <+AnonymooseReddtr> check what version of the .net framework is installed? 05:29 < enix> s2dExchange: dw; your horoscope tells me a promotions on the horizon 05:29 < s2dExchange> right now server 2012r2 with hosted exchange is sitting on windows update for the last 2 hours 05:29 < s2dExchange> 4.6.2 05:29 < kuahara> been walking around with a rooted Galaxy Note2 for years. Recently upgraded to this S8+ and getting ridiculously annoyed with all the default app security settings all over again. 05:29 < enix> kuahara: blackbox 05:30 < enix> s2dExchange: So the machine is sitting in a windows update loop thingo 05:30 < s2dExchange> All the mailDBs are hosted as Vhdx files pointed at the exchange VM 05:30 <+AnonymooseReddtr> 4.6.2? ok 05:30 < s2dExchange> yup 05:30 < kuahara> I want to transfer a file from my PC via teamviewer, then maybe use ES file explorer to create a new folder in another app's space and drop the downloaded file into that folder 05:30 < s2dExchange> stuck for the last 2 hours 05:30 < kuahara> but default security prevents literally all of that from being possible 05:30 <+NinjaStyle> boop doop 05:30 < s2dExchange> We found out that since the VM was made as a gen2 there might be some issues with secure boot, and bitlocker. 05:30 * DrGibby| boops NinjaStyle's doop 05:30 <+NinjaStyle> kuahara: welcome to android 05:31 < kuahara> NinjaStyle really old versions of android weren't like that 05:31 <+NinjaStyle> yes they were 05:31 <+NinjaStyle> app permissions have always been like that 05:31 < kuahara> You're definitely wrong about that. 05:31 <+NinjaStyle> prove it 05:32 < kuahara> I didn't have to root some of the older "smart phones" running android in order to write to folders created by other apps 05:32 < enix> s2dExchange: are you getting an installation failed message during the update 05:33 < enix> s2dExchange: you could also probably log into single user mode without networking to prevent the update and disable windows updates and delete the applied updates 05:33 <+DrGibby|> eh, it depends on the file location, doesn't it NinjaStyle? 05:33 < kuahara> ES File Explorer was written before that became the norm as well. I remember upgrading and that being a new thing 05:34 <+NinjaStyle> i cant find a since change note saying that ever changed 05:34 <+NinjaStyle> /data/data/ has always been like that as far as i can see 05:34 <+DrGibby|> per app? 05:34 <+NinjaStyle> yeah 05:34 < kuahara> NinjaStyle, out of curiosity, how old are you? 05:34 < s2dExchange> @enix no, the update just sits and says do not shut off 05:34 <+DrGibby|> gimme a sex and I'll verify 05:34 <+DrGibby|> lol 05:34 <+NinjaStyle> kuahara: 13/f/ca 05:35 <+DrGibby|> oh boy 05:35 <+DrGibby|> kuahara: not a path you want to go down 05:35 < enix> @ symbol doesn't tag me s2dExchange 05:35 < s2dExchange> sorry, new to IRC 05:35 < enix> s2dExchange: shut it off, boot into single user mode, roll back updates 05:38 <+DrGibby|> /data/ doesn't exist, at least obviously, on my device 05:38 <+NinjaStyle> sec 05:38 <+DrGibby|> no worries 05:38 <+DrGibby|> I have "device storage" 05:38 <+DrGibby|> which is not from the root dir 05:39 <+DrGibby|> obv not a rooted device 05:39 < s2dExchange> enix I sent you some messages, trying to figure out IRC now too. Sorry 05:40 <+NinjaStyle> DrGibby|: 05:40 <+DrGibby|> ye 05:40 <+NinjaStyle> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/pobFJ2hb/ 05:40 <+NinjaStyle> its owned by system, group system, execute world permissions 05:40 <+NinjaStyle> this is android 4.4.4 btw 05:40 <+DrGibby|> yeah, I cant get to that level because I'm not going to root this 05:41 <+NinjaStyle> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/I0tWHbLa/ 05:41 <+NinjaStyle> data data is the same 05:41 <+NinjaStyle> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/BkNJPAl1/ 05:41 <+DrGibby|> yeah, I trust your shit because I CBA 05:41 < Casteil> NinjaStyle: so you've been that your company what, about a year now? 05:41 <+NinjaStyle> this is truncated, but you can see each dir is owned and group by the app user 05:41 < Casteil> or like 8-10 months? 05:42 <+NinjaStyle> Casteil: about 17 months 05:42 <+NinjaStyle> errrr 05:42 < Casteil> oh damn that long? 05:42 < enix> guys need suggestions 05:42 <+NinjaStyle> 16 months 05:42 < enix> legit IT query 05:42 <+DrGibby|> enix: its DNS 05:42 < enix> PC2 cant talk to PC1\SQLExpress 05:42 < Casteil> hmm, yeah... I suppose I've been coming here damn near 2 years now 05:42 < enix> DrGibby|: maybe... nslookup on pc1 doesn't work 05:42 < enix> DrGibby|: but connecting to 10.0.0.3\SQLExpress doesn't work either 05:42 < enix> I've enabled IP's in config manager 05:42 < Casteil> and it's been a year since I switched roles to exclusively business analyst/project management in software 05:42 < BytesAndCoffee> should i transfer from namecheap to google domains? 05:42 <+DrGibby|> traceroute? 05:42 < enix> as well as enabled individual IPs 05:43 < enix> DrGibby|: direct 05:43 < enix> DrGibby|: no middle man 05:43 < Casteil> time flies 05:43 < enix> google domains? that's weird 05:43 < Casteil> we just celebrated year anniversary of the premature launch of our in-house sales/service software last week :D 05:43 < enix> BytesAndCoffee: probably not if you're using a whmcs api or similar but eh 05:43 <+DrGibby|> and tracert shows nothing weird? 05:43 <+NinjaStyle> DrGibby|: i am gonna verify these permissions on android 4.1.1, thats the oldest version i have 05:43 < enix> DrGibby|: 1ms to the target machine 05:43 < enix> nothing inbetween 05:44 < BytesAndCoffee> enix: whmcs? 05:44 < Casteil> android 4.1.1... what is this, 1999? 05:44 <+DrGibby|> netcat to netcat is good? 05:44 < enix> BytesAndCoffee: web host manager 05:44 <+NinjaStyle> Casteil: well the guy said it used to be different 05:44 < enix> DrGibby|: netcat? 05:44 < BytesAndCoffee> enix: ... 05:44 <+DrGibby|> yes 05:44 <+NinjaStyle> i dont believe him 05:44 < BytesAndCoffee> enix: shared hosting? 05:44 < BytesAndCoffee> i have a VPS 05:44 <+DrGibby|> or nc for short 05:44 < enix> BytesAndCoffee: some people run their own hosting, it's worht mentioning 05:44 < enix> BytesAndCoffee: so do I and it's paid for by clients 05:44 <+NinjaStyle> yep same deal on android 4.1.1 05:45 < BytesAndCoffee> enix: its a personal use domain 05:45 < BytesAndCoffee> not work 05:45 <+NinjaStyle> kuahara: youre high 05:45 < enix> BytesAndCoffee: then put it where-ever you like mate it doesn't make a difference which registrar you use 05:45 < enix> BytesAndCoffee: you're really only caring about free privacy and retention policy if you lapse on payment 05:45 < enix> BytesAndCoffee: assuming you're running your own named and shit 05:45 < BytesAndCoffee> enix: i was more asking for if anyone uses google domains and if they reccomend it over namecheap 05:46 <+DrGibby|> enix: netcat allows for a simple tcp connection to be established between hosts 05:46 <+DrGibby|> I suppose telnet could work in a pinch? 05:46 <+NinjaStyle> BytesAndCoffee: i have some domains in google 05:46 <+NinjaStyle> i like it 05:46 < enix> hm enix.site is available 05:46 < BytesAndCoffee> NinjaStyle: how are they compared to namecheap 05:46 <+DrGibby|> all my shit is in in gCloud/google.domains 05:46 <+NinjaStyle> usually more expensive, better user experience imo 05:47 < BytesAndCoffee> included gsuite is tempting 05:47 < enix> BytesAndCoffee: if you're going to run everything in gapps then it's worth it 05:47 < s2dExchange> Got exchange VM to boot into safe mode. We've disabled all exchange services and "Microsoft Exchange Active Directory Topology Service" Will try disabling Windows update as well 05:47 < BytesAndCoffee> thing is, im moving from Google's ecosystem to Apple 05:47 < enix> BytesAndCoffee: never transferred out of google domains though so that might be a difficult thing but google supports pretty decent 05:47 < enix> why... 05:48 < BytesAndCoffee> enix: iphone, ipad 05:48 < BytesAndCoffee> just bought airpods 05:48 < BytesAndCoffee> im an apple sheep 05:48 < enix> yeah but gmail integration is fine on the ios stuff 05:48 < BytesAndCoffee> true 05:48 < enix> I've been using apple since the 3G and have just used my gmail since. I had the apple me cloud shit they had for a while, never used it, so I stopped stealing access codes 05:49 < enix> BytesAndCoffee: the only thing is online storage, which I prefer to pay dropbox for 05:49 < BytesAndCoffee> eh 05:49 < BytesAndCoffee> i haven't touched my dropbox since like, 2015 05:49 < enix> BytesAndCoffee: largely because dropbox is probably king for that kind of thing. Automatic camera upload can be buggy but it works non-the-less and it's extremely handy as a time capsule and for sharing shit with people 05:50 < rpifan> i dont upload my data anywehre 05:50 < enix> rpifan: you couldnt because your foil boat hat would block the signal 05:50 < BytesAndCoffee> enix: yeah but C. Rice 05:50 < enix> c rice? 05:51 < BytesAndCoffee> condoleezza rice 05:51 < BytesAndCoffee> there was a big blowup 05:51 < enix> I have to say.. you've totally lost me 05:51 < BytesAndCoffee> http://www.drop-dropbox.com/ 05:51 < mkillebrew> Where do you put all your twincest porn then? local storage? 05:51 < Casteil> fucking sig... wants $80 for a god damn plastic p365 holster 05:52 <@cryptic1> 3d print one 05:52 < mkillebrew> lolno 05:52 < BytesAndCoffee> mkillebrew: triple-redundant local storage with an offsite backup in a secret location 05:52 <+DrGibby|> cryptic1: get back to work 05:52 <@cryptic1> D: 05:52 <+DrGibby|> cryptic1: turn that frown upside down 05:52 <@cryptic1> :D 05:52 < BytesAndCoffee> where do you keep yours? 05:52 <+DrGibby|> cryptic1: fuck you 05:52 <@cryptic1> :O 05:53 < enix> DrGibby|: we have an in-house maintained tcp/udp transmission testing app and the two are talking fine 05:53 <+DrGibby|> I dont have a response for that, cryptic1 05:53 < enix> DrGibby|: telnet is not installed 05:53 < BytesAndCoffee> hey cryptic1 o/ 05:53 <@cryptic1> haha 05:53 <@cryptic1> hey BytesAndCoffee :) 05:53 <@cryptic1> I got to get up in 6 1/2 hours 05:53 <@cryptic1> nitez everyone 05:53 < BytesAndCoffee> damn 05:53 <+DrGibby|> enix: then you need something like wireshark to tell you wtf is up 05:53 * BytesAndCoffee passes cryptic1 some melatonin 05:53 <@cryptic1> heh 05:54 <+DrGibby|> cryptic1: I hope you have a great evening. 05:54 <@cryptic1> enix do you hand pack each packet? 05:54 <@cryptic1> DrGibby|, you too 05:54 <+DrGibby|> Sleep well, my friend. 05:54 < enix> cryptic1: and sign it off with a wax seal 05:54 < enix> to ensure hackers dont intercept packets 05:55 * DrGibby| pisses on the "packets" 05:55 < enix> so vile.. 05:55 < xe0n> packet of chips 05:55 <+DrGibby|> so is your face, enix 05:56 < BytesAndCoffee> cryptic1: only hand-packaged packets in bespoke ethernet frames, blessed by a monkd instance launched by a himalayan monk 05:57 <+NinjaStyle> DrGibby|: that dude left i think 05:57 <+NinjaStyle> the one who said android permissions have changed 05:58 < enix> good. he was annoying and shit over s2dExchange's valid question with piss poor android ignorance 05:58 <+DrGibby|> kuahara? 05:58 <+NinjaStyle> but my satisfaction D: 05:58 <+DrGibby|> nah, still here 05:59 <+DrGibby|> been idle for 24 mins though 05:59 <+NinjaStyle> ive been wanting to ask rkeene a question for like a month 06:00 <+NinjaStyle> and he is mia 06:00 <+DrGibby|> he was active a while ago 06:03 <+NinjaStyle> i know he is alive because i texted him to make sure recently 06:03 <+DrGibby|> kuahara: 06:03 <+DrGibby|> respond pls 06:03 < kuahara> ? 06:04 <+DrGibby|> oh hai 06:04 <+DrGibby|> what do you have to say? 06:05 <+NinjaStyle> kuahara: i can only use back to 4.1.1 but the permissions are set on that version, and there are like no patch notes indicating a change to app permissions 06:08 < enix> it was server browser not running preventing me from accessing that database 06:10 < enix> aussies: https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2018/04/kogan-is-now-flogging-unlimited-nbn-plans-for-2-per-day/?utm_source=Gizmodo+Australia&utm_campaign=d5537ed930-gizmodo_2018_04_12&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_7a0c493e18-d5537ed930-278876441 06:10 < enix> what a legend. $60/month for unlimited 50/20 06:12 < mal_will> GCED is teaching me a lot 06:12 < mal_will> I would recommend buying second hand course books on ebay and rubbing them right on your eyeballs 06:13 < Casteil> work just bought me PMBOK ... yay 06:14 < Casteil> https://www.amazon.com/Project-Management-Knowledge-PMBOK-Sixth/dp/1628251840 < tons of bad reviews because the greedy cunts printed it with a shitload of irritating anti-counterfeiting watermark crap 06:14 < mal_will> NICE 06:14 < mal_will> So you're doing CAPM 06:14 < Casteil> yep 06:14 < mal_will> dopeness 06:14 < Casteil> that's the intent anyway 06:14 < mal_will> Do the fuck out of it 06:14 < kuahara> NinjaStyle, not sure what you want me to tell you. I can tell you there were a wealth of blog posts explaining the changes when they came about. There were "hacks" posted shortly after on xda devs. I'd have to dig around if you want a time frame. 06:14 < Casteil> work having bought the book for me will probably make me feel obligated to stick to it 06:14 < Casteil> but afaik even CAPM is not easy 06:15 < mal_will> you can do it, just have the plan, man 06:15 <+NinjaStyle> kuahara: i just dont buy it 06:15 < Casteil> it's the same content PMP covers; just lower prerequisite requirements and probably a slightly easier test 06:15 < kuahara> I'll survive 06:15 < mal_will> project manage yourself, ahaha 06:15 <+NinjaStyle> 4.1.1 came out in 2012 06:15 < Casteil> 700+ pages of project management insanity >.> 06:15 <+NinjaStyle> so youre saying prior to 2012 this existed? 06:16 < mal_will> how much have you read so far Casteil 06:16 < Casteil> I haven't even gotten it yet, arrives tomorrow 06:16 < kuahara> I'm saying prior to 2012, I was freely moving data pretty much where ever I wanted to on my phone and didn't have to root to make that possible. 06:16 < mal_will> get hyped! 06:16 < Casteil> I may or may not have snagged the PDF of the book for easier reading though :X 06:16 < enix> Casteil: legitimately, let me know if it's any good 06:16 < enix> Casteil: pm it to me? 06:16 < Casteil> reading/searching, that is 06:16 < kuahara> and I thought 4.x was older than that. I could be wrong. 06:17 < enix> kuahara: we get it; you're old 06:17 < mal_will> Maybe I'll do capm when I'm done with cissp 06:17 < kuahara> I'm 36. call it whatever 06:17 < mal_will> maybe I'll sleep for three years, idk 06:17 < Casteil> I can't even remember where I got it now 06:17 < enix> Casteil: can you dropbox it? 06:17 <+NinjaStyle> even 4.0 was only late 2011 06:17 < enix> or actually even email it? 06:18 < Casteil> enix: nothx, FBI >.> 06:18 < kuahara> The note 2 I rooted came out september 2012 06:18 < kuahara> so it was obviously before then 06:18 <+NinjaStyle> i still dont think your right, i cant find anything to back up your claims and neither can you so 06:18 < catbeard> ok what the fuck 06:18 < catbeard> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ChZ_KFY9PM 06:19 <+layer-eight> YouTube The Positronic Pimp by 2008-04-16T06:35:38.000Z (duration: 4:37) on Wed Apr 16 13:35:38 UTC 2008, 2008-04-16T06:35:38.000Z views 06:19 < mal_will> Do libraries arry cert books? 06:19 < mal_will> I rented my sec+ book on amazon, but idk how analog libraries work 06:19 < catbeard> mal_will: more likely amazon/packtpublishing/oreilly 06:20 < mal_will> but could I go to a library and rent pmbok 06:20 < Casteil> catbeard: Zuckerberg starred in star trek?! 06:20 < catbeard> or you can literally search file:pdf name of software +"certification" 06:20 < Casteil> just kidding, Data is far less socially awkward than zuck 06:21 < catbeard> ^ 06:21 < s2dExchange> Disabling exchange services allowed us to boot in normal 2k12r2. Then we enabled all services and now we're replicating to DAG network. Thanks for everyone who replied. 06:21 < catbeard> i'm dying "go data ugh ugh" in the bg 06:21 <+NinjaStyle> s2dExchange: nice dude 06:21 < Casteil> apparently zuck had to spend a lot of time with a social skills coach prior to this testimony 06:21 < mal_will> catbeard: my question was more morals based 06:22 < mal_will> is it bad to share a pdf if you can rent it from the library 06:22 < mal_will> share/take fo free.99 06:22 < Casteil> mal_will: at best it's grey 06:22 < s2dExchange> 1st job out of community college. >.< I already hate exchange 06:22 <+NinjaStyle> lol 06:22 < Casteil> if the publishers had their way libraries would be **illegal** 06:22 <+NinjaStyle> s2dExchange: soon youll hate all of IT 06:22 < mal_will> ^ 06:22 < mal_will> I hate MDM solutions 06:23 < enix> mal_will: don't get me started 06:23 < s2dExchange> lol. It probably won't be long. I just got lucky that I'm in a SMB so I get to play with everything and learn fast. 06:23 < Casteil> I managed a year in IT before I got promoted out of it haha 06:23 < mal_will> if Ivanti had a face I'd bash it in with a tire iron till it was more goo than solid 06:23 <+NinjaStyle> i was in IT ops for almost 8 years 06:23 < Casteil> it wasn't that bad and I could go back and do it again if I needed to 06:24 < mal_will> I'm on year 7. 06:24 < s2dExchange> BTW, 2 node cluster Storage Spaces Direct sucks at replicating. 06:24 < Casteil> I like being on a small software team; we seem to be exceeding expectations and I'm not *always* balls to the wall busy day to day 06:24 < enix> you're lucky 06:24 < mal_will> I always think I've done my last call to fix a printer. "I'm a security and infrastructure admin. I am the coolest ever. I'm respected, and useful" "Mal, the printer is jammed" 06:24 < enix> we're a small software support team and we're fucked 06:25 < Casteil> certainly was the first 6 months after the premature launch 06:25 < Casteil> enix: support for what, employees or customer end-users? 06:25 < enix> Casteil: customers unfortunately 06:25 < Casteil> ah... yeah, that sucks 06:25 < enix> well nah the customers are alright except when a select few do dumb shit. Legit we had two months of playing games and watching netflix in the office at the beginning of the year 06:25 < Casteil> tables would be quite a bit different if this software's audience were customers 06:25 < enix> was fantastic 06:26 < Casteil> we've got something to the order of about 70 end-users of our software across our 5 locations 06:26 < Casteil> well, 5 locations plus two corp offices 06:27 <+NinjaStyle> i think i could be developer if i needed to 06:28 < Casteil> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/23/us/trump-presidential-coin.html < Lol.. what a conceited douche >.> 06:28 < catbeard> it's that kind of thinking that introduces bugs 06:29 <+NinjaStyle> lol 06:29 < Casteil> NinjaStyle: I'm pretty horrible at coding from scratch, but I can go in and fix/tweak anything 06:29 < catbeard> Casteil: i'm tasked with doing both 06:29 < catbeard> not a pretty sight 06:29 < Casteil> though my job has me more focused on requirements/analysis/project management 06:29 < The_Dv8or> sup 06:29 < catbeard> my code (as of late anyway) is on point 06:30 < catbeard> 2 years in the making, but written from scratch 06:30 < Casteil> I'll knock out some simpler items especially if they're cosmetic or changes to verbiage 06:30 < catbeard> ah this is CLI tools 06:30 <+NinjaStyle> ive gotten a lot better at coding since i started in pentesting 06:30 < Casteil> < sales & service webapp 06:30 < The_Dv8or> I got a phone interview tomorrow at 11am for a position that requires me to know about AWS and VMware NSX 06:30 * Casteil pentests NinjaStyle's backdoor 06:30 < The_Dv8or> I am now teaching myself AWS and NSX 06:30 < catbeard> i wrote an account management and resource usage policy enforcement suite 06:31 < enix> The_Dv8or: the vmware nsx was alright but never really compared to the honda 06:31 * Casteil waggles eyebrows 06:31 <+NinjaStyle> D: 06:31 < catbeard> written original in bash, then perl, now in php71 phar 06:31 <+NinjaStyle> i do python, some golang, some java, and powershell 06:32 < catbeard> was considering writing a go client for TOTP based auto-unblocks 06:33 <+NinjaStyle> go is cool 06:33 < catbeard> cool is go 06:33 <+NinjaStyle> ye 06:34 < catbeard> "Jupiter 2, Up is go on your command." .. "Aaaand the monkey flips the switch.." 06:44 * Church- prefers rusr 06:44 < Church-> rust 06:44 * Church- likes go 06:50 <+NinjaStyle> Church-: rust is weird 06:50 <+NinjaStyle> and not intuitive 06:51 < enix> Church-: would you like me to escort NinjaStyle style out? 06:51 <+NinjaStyle> :( 06:53 < Church-> NinjaStyle: What's weird and non intuitive? 06:53 < Casteil> TIL NinjaStyle has cancer 06:54 < Casteil> (sorry about the Java, bro) 06:54 <+NinjaStyle> java is really not a bad language, its the rest that is shitty 06:54 < Casteil> java is cancer 06:55 <+NinjaStyle> idk, i mean its not bad from a developer perspective 06:55 < Casteil> literally the only redeeming aspect is cross platform capability 06:55 < Casteil> everything else about java is cancer 06:55 < Church-> I mean the borrow checker can cause problems but that's from people not really understanding scoping. 06:56 < Casteil> welp.. it's like 1am 06:56 <+NinjaStyle> go bed 06:57 < Casteil> trending for OT again this week 06:57 < kuahara> ffs, me too. just spent 2 hours forcing unsupported software to work on this damn phone. synching 357 records. going to sleep. 06:58 < Casteil> I think my replacement might be doing some late night server maintenance work 06:58 < Casteil> we needed to update our windows server VMs to 2016 for some requirements 06:59 <+NinjaStyle> nice 07:00 < Casteil> idgaf though; I managed to make an almost flawless break from general IT responsibilities which I never thought would happen 07:00 < Casteil> my boss and the company owner though made it pretty clear from the get go to everyone in the company that I'm no longer to be contacted for IT stuff when I transitioned to the software role haha 07:00 <+NinjaStyle> what does the software role consist of? 07:02 < Casteil> mishmash of just about everything.. mostly business analysis/software requirements gathering & defining, jira admin, QA, documentation, 07:02 < Casteil> etc 07:02 < Casteil> minor project management at least until I start getting more staff 07:02 < Casteil> that's when the CAPM stuff will start to come in more handy 07:03 < Casteil> my official title is long but it boils down to software implementation 07:05 <+NinjaStyle> interesting 07:06 < Casteil> I do some minor dev stuff for trivial changes I don't want to bother my engineer with 07:22 < Gencade> Hi guysd 07:36 < ayeitzabee> Hayo 07:36 < Maarten> o/ 07:37 < ayeitzabee> Anyone on that is a powershell wiz? 07:37 < ayeitzabee> I got a weird issue I am having trouble solving 07:37 < Maarten> not a wiz.... use it from time to time. I do think there is a powershell channel though 07:38 < ayeitzabee> It is probs dead, this channel always has some powershell dude on 07:39 < ayeitzabee> I was wondering why near identical code copied in a script has a different outcome 07:40 < ayeitzabee> https://pastebin.com/BmKQCQDm <- for some reason this creates a $swarm-manager0 (which I do not want) but not a $swarm-worker0 07:42 < abakedapplepie> whats the value of $Using:WorkerCount 07:42 < abakedapplepie> if its 0 then nothing is going to happen 07:43 < ayeitzabee> It is in the paste, they are both set to 1 07:43 < abakedapplepie> oh doh 07:43 < ayeitzabee> It is super odd and I have no clue why it is doing it. It makes $swarm-manager1 first and tries to create $swarm-manager0 07:44 < abakedapplepie> but why 0 07:44 < abakedapplepie> if youre going from 1 to 1, i should be 1 07:44 < abakedapplepie> ?? 07:44 < ayeitzabee> Yup I know 07:44 < ayeitzabee> I am stumped at WTF is happening 07:45 < ayeitzabee> Here is the whole script so far, it is not very big https://pastebin.com/eYkck6xm 07:47 < ayeitzabee> I really want to use Parallelization :( Don't want to have to get rid of it but it is just way too funky 07:47 < abakedapplepie> your lack of whitespace is frustrating :P 07:48 < xe0n> loll 07:48 < abakedapplepie> what happens if you manually put 1..1 instead of 1..$var 07:50 < abakedapplepie> i am really not super familiar with $using 07:50 < abakedapplepie> but it seems maybe it doesnt work the way you think it works 07:52 < plop> mornign slackers 07:54 < ayeitzabee> abakedapplepie, Just made a change, saved the script and now it isn't even running :DDDDDDD 07:54 < abakedapplepie> heh 07:54 < ayeitzabee> Fuck me why do I bother 07:55 < abakedapplepie> story of my life 07:55 < ayeitzabee> Just going to torch an afternoons worth of work because it has decided it don't wanna run anymore 07:56 < ayeitzabee> Welp I moved the "createvm" call and now it is working fine 07:56 < ayeitzabee> I hate powershell 07:58 < vader-> Power shell functions have to be called after the point in the script where the function is written 07:58 * ayeitzabee twitches 07:59 < ayeitzabee> Moving that stupid thing to the bottom of the script fixed everything .-. 07:59 < vader-> So say you have the main part of your script and it calls function A we'll function A () has to be declared above where it is called so it is sitting in memory 08:00 < vader-> Same goes if Function A calls Function B within it... then Function B has to be declared above Function A in your script 08:00 < vader-> And so on 08:02 < abakedapplepie> wow i didnt even notice he had that up there 08:02 < abakedapplepie> good catch 08:02 < abakedapplepie> dont worry ayeitzabee i did the same thing last week 08:02 < abakedapplepie> and i was using ISE so it was still working, but running the *previous* version of the function every time 08:03 < abakedapplepie> drove me nuts for an hour before i realized i did a dumb 08:04 < vader-> Ya that is the worst when ISE caches shit basically 08:05 < abakedapplepie> i learned an extremely important lesson that day 08:05 < abakedapplepie> dont be stupid 08:05 < abakedapplepie> and dont use ise 08:05 < abakedapplepie> or, at least, when shit gets fucky, run it outside 08:06 < vader-> Ya the function ordering thing is something that you only learn after you have smashed your head against the wall for a whole day 08:14 < abakedapplepie> im used to that not being a thing, but powershell isnt a normal scripting language so i should stop treating it that way 08:24 < enix> Fucking hell woocommerce 08:24 < enix> They've broken up their templates wayyy too much 08:25 <+A-KO> what, abakedapplepie? O.o 08:25 <+A-KO> what's not normal about it? 08:25 < abakedapplepie> A-KO well for one, the ordering that we just mentioned 08:26 < abakedapplepie> but i cant really think of any more weird gotchas right now 08:26 < ayeitzabee> abakedapplepie, I didn't even know ISE did that!!! 08:26 < ayeitzabee> No wonder all the changes I was making was doing shit all 08:26 <+A-KO> ah, yeah, the function defs 08:26 <+A-KO> annoying 08:26 < abakedapplepie> hah 08:27 <+A-KO> ayeitzabee: use vscode 08:27 <+A-KO> O.O 08:27 < ayeitzabee> Just so happens I actually have that installed 08:30 < catbeard> enix: meh that's the easy part 08:31 < Apooti_> mornin' (sort of) 08:31 < catbeard> try configuring CL/LSWS/CloudFlare API/CDN/Critical CSS/object caching on top of that with private cart caches 08:31 < catbeard> then you have Magento 08:32 < Apooti_> anyone has any helpful resources or tips how to draw a L2 and L3 network layout diagram that includes all the hypervisors and VMs in a sort of neat way? 08:34 < Apooti_> i'm getting all mixed up with L3 elements in my L2 drawing and vise versa with the L3 one 08:35 < ayeitzabee> Nani, I would have 2 separate diagrams for that 08:35 < Apooti_> 2 separate ones for what? networking and hypervisors or L2 and L3? 08:35 < ayeitzabee> L2 - L3 08:36 < Apooti_> those are separate 08:36 < Apooti_> what i mean is i'm finding myself shoving in L3 elements into the L2 one and L2 elements into the L3 one 08:36 < ayeitzabee> Ah 08:36 < Apooti_> and the entire hypervisors are making it even more confusing 08:37 < Apooti_> specially since i have like 5 vlans on the L3 diagram and like 10-15 VMs that are connected to like 4 out of those 5 vlans 08:37 < Apooti_> plus i want to somehow represent the resources those VMs are taking 08:37 < ayeitzabee> Well l2 would just be everything connecting together and you would have to say what l3 connections run on the l2 connections :D 08:38 < ayeitzabee> I myself would just do an L4 diagram ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 08:39 < catbeard> just draw different cloud shapes, use draw.io 08:39 < catbeard> make a legend 08:39 < Apooti_> i'm sort of masochistic in that i'm going for the following diagrams: mechanical, L1, L2, L3 08:39 < Apooti_> catbeard, i'm using Visio 08:40 < Apooti_> draw.io is kinda basic in comparison 08:40 < Apooti_> mechanical is the easy part, L1 is mostly done since its just a more readable mechanical one 08:40 < Apooti_> but L2 and L3 got me sort of stumped 08:41 < Apooti_> for example, is there any reason to represent switches on the L3 diagram if they all have the same vlans trunked to them? 08:42 < Apooti_> and since the entire infrastructure is sort of dynamic the access mode ports keep changing vlans on a regular basis 08:43 < plop> is netbox allowing to make a patch cables diagram yet? 08:44 < plop> not yet https://github.com/digitalocean/netbox/issues/20 08:45 < Apooti_> so far i've been using phpIPAM for that 08:45 < ceofreak> going on a concert on wednesday... not good 08:45 < plop> does it have cable management? 08:46 < plop> ceofreak, hungover? 08:46 < Apooti_> plop, nope, just rack layout but i have Visio for the actual mechanical rack layout and cabling 08:46 < ceofreak> Not even sure thats the right word to how I feel 08:46 < plop> Apooti_, damn. 08:46 < plop> ceofreak, that is you getting old. it is gonna be worse overtime 08:47 < ceofreak> I know man 08:47 < ceofreak> 10 years ago I wouldnt have any problem 08:47 < Apooti_> ceofreak, the secret to not being hung over is not stopping 08:47 < ceofreak> now a fucking hangover lasts for 2 days 08:47 < plop> what Apooti_ said 08:47 < ceofreak> yea 08:47 < ceofreak> It would certainly help but I couldn't force myself a sip of beer even 08:48 < Apooti_> irish coffee if what you're looking for 08:48 < Apooti_> just make sure you use decent whisky 08:48 < ceofreak> holy shit 08:48 < ceofreak> youre a genius 08:48 < ceofreak> I have never even thought about that 08:48 < plop> caffeine kick + alcohol 08:48 < Apooti_> christ, how have you been coping with your job all these years then? 08:48 < ceofreak> But doesnt it catch you once the effect wears off anyway? 08:49 < ceofreak> Drugs. 08:49 < plop> ibuprofen 08:49 < abakedapplepie> crippling depression 08:49 < ceofreak> ^ 08:49 < ceofreak> It's so nice to talk to like-minded people 08:49 < abakedapplepie> lol 08:49 < Apooti_> i'm still trying to convince our CTO to pay for cocaine to "boost productivity" 08:49 < ceofreak> It certainly would 08:50 < Apooti_> yea, and where else would you get company funded coke 08:50 < ceofreak> In colombia 08:50 < Apooti_> then again, i usually have meetings with him at a pub and after 4 beers we usually make the right decisions 08:50 < Apooti_> ceofreak, true 08:51 < ceofreak> I think 3-4 beers is the pinacle of good decision making 08:51 < ceofreak> after that it goes downwards 08:51 < Apooti_> yep, before that its usually a lot of arguing and after that its just bullshit 08:52 < catbeard> Apooti_: try Meth, it's cheaper and lasts longer #savedatmoney 08:52 < Apooti_> catbeard, nah, i want to keep my teeth for another couple years 08:52 < Apooti_> but thanks for the tip 08:52 < Apooti_> nice 08:52 < Apooti_> i fucking love zabbix 08:53 < Apooti_> someone just tripped the power to one of the PDUs and now 3 minutes later i have 45 unread emails from zabbix 08:54 < ceofreak> 45 08:54 < ceofreak> lol 08:54 < catbeard> i remember a company i worked for once, PDU exploded and 2 full colo racks went offline 08:54 < ceofreak> I'm about to set a zabbix server up within the next days 08:54 < catbeard> 24 hours of OT 08:56 < ceofreak> https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/8bj88x/stained_glass_side_windows_are_now_in/ 08:56 < ceofreak> omg 08:56 < ceofreak> this is glorious 08:57 < catbeard> actually that'd be a baker's rack with towers double-sided in 2 aisles, 10-12 racks across each, fit maybe 5 per split on each side, the wall-mounted ticket displays were nuts 08:58 < mrWhiteMD> hello 08:58 < catbeard> morn 08:58 < ceofreak> moin 08:59 < catbeard> nobody remembers Morn from DS9 08:59 < catbeard> just drinks and minds his own business 08:59 < catbeard> yet delivers crucial tactical info, with no starfleet training 09:00 < catbeard> gives Ro Laren a run for her money 09:04 < catbeard> literally saves alpha quadrant from the dominion, receives no terok nor or promenade merchants association discount 09:07 < Apooti_> ceofreak, zabbix is really nice so go for it 09:07 < ceofreak> absolutely 09:07 < Apooti_> i swapped from nagios to zabbix 09:07 < ceofreak> gonna spin it up in AWS 09:08 < catbeard> sensu if you can write ruby/python and like to get your hands dirty, rabbitmq part is nice 09:09 < ceofreak> Did anyone here ever do some android development? 09:09 < Church-> Christ. 09:09 < Church-> I have an interview in... five hours and I still can't fucking sleep. 09:10 < Church-> Also, why in the hell did I agree to an 8am interview? 09:10 < ceofreak> I want to get a little bit more into programming and I thought maybe it will be good to start doing a android app to have a project to work on 09:10 < ceofreak> Church- take some of da herb 09:10 < Church-> ceofreak: Well what type of programming are we talking about? 09:10 < Church-> Don't smoke. 09:10 < ceofreak> Vape 09:10 < ceofreak> Eat 09:10 < Church-> Also, can't smoke. 09:10 < Church-> Eh I don't imbibe in general. 09:11 < ceofreak> Do a shoulder stand and breathing excercise 09:11 < ceofreak> helps 09:11 * Church- says this while looking down at a half finished decanter of laphroaig 09:11 < Church-> ceofreak: Tried that. 09:11 < ceofreak> if you can do a shoulder stand without breaking your neck 09:11 < Church-> I'm tired but can't sleep. Fucking annoying. 09:11 < ceofreak> Church- Any, really. Started python a couple of times but couldnt stick with it because I dont have any project 09:11 < Church-> So instead I'm finishup more boilerplate for my EVM impl. And working on a DHT impl. 09:12 < ceofreak> I figured maybe with android studio I can learn a bit and also eventually make a app at some point 09:12 < Church-> ceofreak: So, check out generalized stuff like hackerrank, r/dailyprogrammer, project euler, cryptopals, etc. 09:12 < Church-> ceofreak: Any processes you get tired doing during the day? 09:12 < ceofreak> Yes 09:12 < Church-> Maybe learn enough to automate them away. 09:12 < ceofreak> All of them 09:12 < Church-> lol 09:13 < Church-> There you go! 09:13 < ceofreak> But you are right 09:13 < ceofreak> I still spend way too much time imaging new machines and installing custom software on it and shit 09:15 < Church-> ceofreak: All can be done with a good scripting language or Config Management tool + scripting. 09:15 < ceofreak> Good call 09:15 < ceofreak> maybe i should start doing this 09:15 < ceofreak> can still do the app thing next to it 09:17 < ceofreak> brb 09:20 < Trapdoor> Dell has a ProSupport PLUS now? 09:34 < Hatsjoe> Morning 09:34 < togen> hey 09:35 < Church-> o/ Hatsjoe togen 09:36 < Trapdoor> fuck this coffee cup 09:37 < cozyfraser> what's going on big guy 09:37 < Trapdoor> this time the finger-hole is round 09:37 < cozyfraser> as opposed to what? 09:37 < Trapdoor> it's perfectly round, so there's no support for a second or third finger to support its verticality 09:37 < cozyfraser> smash it 09:37 < Trapdoor> I mean the hole can be round, but the circumference of the outside is also perfectly circle 09:38 < cozyfraser> See but wouldn't it just slip 09:38 < Trapdoor> usually you put your hook finger in the hole right, and then one finger on top and one underneath 09:39 < Trapdoor> nah this is just perfectly round so there's nothing supporting you, and yea it just slips 09:39 < cozyfraser> I mean I just drink water 09:39 < cozyfraser> It's healthy 09:39 < Trapdoor> so either I've got to death-grip this thing, or burn the shit out of my middle finger 09:40 < Trapdoor> this is just like that other cup, holy shit that other cup is infuriating 09:40 < Trapdoor> https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/half-cup-coffee-isolated-white-8837856.jpg 09:40 < Trapdoor> it's one of these and they're fucking infuriating 09:40 < cozyfraser> Do yourself a favour and buy a 1.75L water bottle 09:41 < Trapdoor> I have a 500ml shaker that's usually filled 2-3 times a day 09:41 < Trapdoor> coffee isn't my source of water 09:41 < cozyfraser> You'll have to stand up every 45 minutes to go piss, but damn if you can get good quality filtered water if your office it feels so good 09:41 < Trapdoor> filtered water? I live in Norway 09:42 < cozyfraser> What would happen if you filtered that pure, pure water 09:42 < Trapdoor> nothing 09:42 < cozyfraser> nectar of the gods mate 09:42 < Trapdoor> it'd probably taste worse 09:42 < Trapdoor> the water in our tap already tastes like nectar of the gods 09:42 < cozyfraser> most likely, but aren't you *curious* 09:42 < Trapdoor> but yea that coffee cup: https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/half-cup-coffee-isolated-white-8837856.jpg 09:43 < catbeard> i'll just give you a cup of hydrogen and a cup of oxygen and let you sort it out 09:43 < Trapdoor> you can't drink it with your left hand 09:43 < Trapdoor> look at it 09:43 < Trapdoor> you can't FUCKING DRINK IT WIT HYOUR LEFT HAND 09:43 < Trapdoor> ha ha funny joke "you asked for half a cup" 09:43 < Trapdoor> fuck you 09:43 < cozyfraser> On another note, I'm going through labtech training 09:44 < Trapdoor> what, you're gonna scroll through reddit with your left hand? no of course not 09:44 < cozyfraser> I'm having to mix youtube videos from connectwise and the training to make it sense 09:44 < cozyfraser> hold on gotta piss I've drunk like 1.5L of water in the last half hour 09:46 < meowschwitz> absorutery haram 09:47 < Trapdoor> 100% haram meowschwitz 09:47 < Trapdoor> this cup is haram too 09:47 < Trapdoor> I had to drink it with two hands 09:48 < Trapdoor> wait no I can wrap my fingers around the top 09:48 < Trapdoor> can't use the handle, I'll just burn my middle finger 09:49 < Trapdoor> reminds me of this thing: https://i.imgur.com/LwVpJig.jpg 09:53 * catbeard twists one up 09:53 < catbeard> this is for fragmented malloc()'s, they're political prisoners you know, show your support 09:53 < Trapdoor> sure I can strip more insulation, but that cable goes into a conduit and it's of limited length 09:54 < catbeard> #freethemallocs 09:54 < Trapdoor> eventually you run out of cable 09:55 < catbeard> now the only question that matters, strawberry or spiked lemonade flavor 09:56 < Apooti_> catbeard, usually spiked lemonade tastes like rape 09:57 < catbeard> god i should empty out my kief collector 09:57 < catbeard> chock full of nuggety dusty goodness 09:58 < Trapdoor> wish I could smoke weed 09:58 < Trapdoor> nothing but hash here 09:58 < catbeard> donde estas? 09:58 < Apooti_> Trapdoor, order seeds and grow on your neighbour's lawn? 09:59 < Trapdoor> well, I could probably get weed if I looked hard enough, but I wanna avoid that smelly smell on the balcony 09:59 < catbeard> get a paper towel tube, a rubber band or scrunchie, and some lavender dryer sheets (bounce works nice) 10:00 < Trapdoor> I would if I was 16 10:00 < catbeard> works at any age really 10:00 < Apooti_> Trapdoor, top tip: get one of those soldering filters/vents 10:00 < catbeard> the rest is a matter of containment 10:00 < Trapdoor> I have a Volcano? 10:00 < Apooti_> just make sure it has a decent filter installed 10:00 < catbeard> so you don't burn your weed, you heat it 10:01 < Apooti_> should suck up all the smell 10:01 < catbeard> though good thing for you 10:01 < catbeard> means you can technically smoke your weed twice 10:01 < Trapdoor> but "what's that crackling sound from trapdoor's balcony?" 10:01 < catbeard> if you collect the vaped weed and use it to make cannabutter you can make other stuff 10:01 < catbeard> that gets smelly as shit tho 10:01 < Trapdoor> yea, I don't want weed smell inside, fuck that 10:01 < catbeard> and you need an Oz to even make a decent amount 10:02 < Trapdoor> I ate 4g of avb once, thinking it wouldn't have any effect 10:02 < Trapdoor> I was wrong 10:02 < catbeard> made some cookies last month, knocked me and my roomie out for 8 hours 10:02 < Trapdoor> out of weed, decided to eat all of my avb with some yogurt, at 9pm on a sunday 10:03 < Trapdoor> came back down around 3-4pm at work monday, never doing that again 10:03 < catbeard> Trapdoor: that's about quittin time tho 10:03 < catbeard> probably best that it wasn't LSD isntead 10:04 < Trapdoor> yea but I was locked in my chair for 6 hours, just listening to music 10:04 < catbeard> so what was the problem? 10:04 < catbeard> :) 10:05 < Trapdoor> Well, waking up at 2am with cold sweats and seeing faces everywhere was pretty terrifying 10:05 < catbeard> Arthur; this isn't weed! 10:05 < Trapdoor> for a couple of minutes I had forgotten about the avb... 10:05 < Trapdoor> chair on my bedroom, face 10:05 < Trapdoor> tv? face 10:05 < Trapdoor> alarm clock? face 10:05 < Trapdoor> my hand? multiple faces 10:07 < catbeard> maybe you met the many faced god on your path to becomine Noone 10:07 < Trapdoor> other than that, turned out not to be an issue 10:07 < Trapdoor> drove myself to work baked out of my mind, not too proud about that one 10:07 < catbeard> tfw you end up driving better because of your constant history of overcorrection 10:08 < Trapdoor> never driven that carefully in my life 10:08 < catbeard> so long as you don't stop at nonexistent stop signs.. 10:08 < Trapdoor> no stop signs here, all roundabouts 10:09 < Trapdoor> there are stop signs, but very very selectively 10:09 < catbeard> "Why are you giving me this pen?" ... "I don't know. Please take it. Turns and roundabouts!" 10:11 < Trapdoor> we had a company christmas party the friday prior and I got a little sick so I was able to play it of 10:11 < Trapdoor> people just thought I was still sick from friday 10:11 < catbeard> "smelled some bad christmas trees" 10:11 < Trapdoor> so at this job I've kept for 10 years I've showed up as work baked out of my mind, and shitfaced 10:11 < Trapdoor> on separate occasions 10:12 < catbeard> i interviewed stoned off my gourd once, got me a 2-3 year job, performance was at least matching or better (sober) 10:13 < Trapdoor> work went out for pizza on a thursday and three of us went back to one guy's place and drank japanese whiskey until 7am 10:13 < MikeSeth> i have some japanese whiskey at home 10:13 < MikeSeth> quite like it too 10:13 < Trapdoor> nikka whiskey? 10:13 < catbeard> had some JB Honey few months ago 10:14 < catbeard> hoooohooooooooo 10:15 < MikeSeth> Trapdoor: togouchi black 10:15 < catbeard> im gonna open a fine beverage establishment 10:15 < catbeard> called LikkaStow 10:19 < AustinS> https://www.unrealircd.org/docs/Ban_user_block 10:19 < AustinS> that makes me so happy that my mask from.. god that was forever ago... is still the example ban 10:19 < catbeard> AustinS: would avoid mode +l if you're using unreal ;) 10:20 < AustinS> not doing anything with Unreal/any ircd.. just somehow ended up on here after looking at SASL spec / saw their config stuff (and everything) has changed drastically 10:20 < AustinS> so was just reading into it for nostalgia 10:20 < catbeard> ah tru 10:20 < Trapdoor> I actually run unrealircd at work 10:21 < catbeard> ya there's SILC/Matrix too 10:21 < catbeard> if you like your IRC in a GUI with redaction protocols 10:21 < AustinS> i can't remember what i did to piss stskeeps off way back then but it stuck apparently 10:21 < catbeard> AustinS: that dood with the ban block in default conf rofl 10:21 < catbeard> // fuck that mfer 10:22 < catbeard> // fuck him everywhere 10:22 < AustinS> saturn.bbn.com was netzero or some shit back in the day lol 10:22 < AustinS> I hadddd to have been .. 7th-8th grade at most 10:24 < AustinS> so many good memories, i remember we made an mIRC monopoly bot.. multiplayer full games 10:25 < catbeard> what was that java one people loved back in the day 10:25 < catbeard> yeah i was in a few scripting crews 10:25 < catbeard> made my own addons/scripts 10:26 < AustinS> i miss all that shit. / just having the time to do pointless things 10:27 < catbeard> made for some good lulz 10:27 < MikeSeth> oh man 10:27 < MikeSeth> those old times 10:27 < MikeSeth> variant 11 10:27 < MikeSeth> +l balancing 10:27 < catbeard> like around 2000-ish 10:27 < MikeSeth> khaled mardam bey claiming to be a palestinian 10:27 < MikeSeth> mass kills 10:28 < MikeSeth> I dont miss any of that crap at all. 10:28 < catbeard> there was a big company that ran java chat systems 10:28 < catbeard> forgot what it was called 10:28 < catbeard> i converted a few to basically the equivalent of ratbox back then 10:28 < Kayofeld> Hello there 10:29 < AustinS> ohh yea had 1 contribution in Unreal 3.2 ha 10:30 < catbeard> there's an ASN on the internet that is specifically designed to send a TCP-RST on the first connection regardless of who you are, then 3 way handshake to make sure you're not a bot 10:30 < AustinS> and oh god the name khaled mardam bey 10:31 < catbeard> old riverhead filters 10:32 < catbeard> if one knows their IRC history, that is... 10:32 < AustinS> ahh yeah my contrib was for the updconf code.. good times. holy shit @ 16 years ago 10:32 < catbeard> i miss eris sometimes 10:32 < AustinS> feeling the aging D: 10:33 < catbeard> then i'm like.. eh 10:33 < catbeard> we have a direct connection to a stratum 0 clock source 10:33 < catbeard> private 10:34 < catbeard> #justsysengthings 10:35 < AustinS> i am a clock source. not vry accurate tho 10:37 < catbeard> your mom's a clock source 10:37 < catbeard> double entendre as well, she actually would be 10:38 < catbeard> #fashionablylate 10:42 < ihre> hmmm what is the right way to source the output of a cmd in bash/zshrc? just adding "source <(kubectl completion zsh)" doesnt work, outputting the cmd to a file and trying to source that neither :\ 11:07 < Hatsjoe> I am having a really weird issue.. I start my ssh-agent in my bashrc (https://paste.devrobs.nl/znj9rqHpHl.bash) but since 2 days ago, pgrep stopped finding ssh-agent while it is in the 'ps' output. It also doesnt work when I pgrep using '-f' (--full). pgrep does work for other processes, just not for ssh-agent 11:07 < Hatsjoe> Does anyone have a clue? As I am pretty clueless.. ssh-agent is the only command affected by this afaik 11:08 < Hatsjoe> https://paste.devrobs.nl/6Jk4r1vlhI.sm 11:12 < Hatsjoe> The plot thickens, the processes are not even listed when doing 'pgrep -u $USER', as if they are not running at all while 'ps' says otherwise... 11:13 < Hatsjoe> The processes also have a /proc entry 11:15 < javi404> isn't data recovery always fun? 11:18 < FenJai__> what happens if you run which Hatsjoe ? 11:18 < FenJai__> As in, which ssh-agent 11:20 < Hatsjoe> FenJai already a step further, when running it with strace I can see that pgrep gets a permission denied on some of the /proc folders of those processes 11:21 < Hatsjoe> https://paste.devrobs.nl/t8WmKGhU9v.lisp 11:21 < Hatsjoe> Not exactly sure what goes on here since it used to work, but at least know I know why it doesnt work 11:24 < ihre> Hatsjoe: start your agent with systemd --user, http://ix.io/17An ;p 11:26 < Hatsjoe> Fuck that :P I have done it like this for 10 years 11:31 < Hatsjoe> I ended up just adding eval $(ssh-agent) to my .xinitrc 11:32 < ihre> Hatsjoe: do you use a pass for your (main) ssh key? 11:33 < Hatsjoe> Yeah 11:34 < Hatsjoe> After login, I add all my ssh keys using ssh-add and enter the passwords to my keys 11:34 < ihre> does eval -$(ssh-agent -t 1800) or work? never tried it, but that is how i let it expire 11:35 < ihre> s/or// 11:35 <+layer-eight> ihre meant: "does eval -$(ssh-agent -t 1800) wk? never tried it, but that is how i let it expire" 11:35 < ihre> fucking layer-eight, you suck 11:37 < Hatsjoe> ihre: thats exactly how I have put it in my xinitrc right now, so I'll let you know in 30 mins if it works :P 11:37 < ihre> :p 11:40 < Kayofeld> Trapdoor: volcano: what a good investment 11:40 < javi404> rsyinc an old drive for someone from a dead computer, look at list, see windows.old being copied, MFW https://desteria.com/community/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.prntscr.com%2Fimage%2F4ee71d1ea42b473796d1f56a8a523953.png&hash=34c5952461505874e8632ac46176487f 11:40 < javi404> Kayofeld: I'm in SQ, TWLO and RIG 11:41 < javi404> happily making a few points a day for the past few weeks 11:45 < FenJai> Amazon sent me a "new" WD blue drive in an antistatic bag and bubble wrap. I feel like I should be worried for this drive 11:45 < Kayofeld> Hatsjoe: tried = cmd() ( your_command; ) 11:45 < Kayofeld> source <(cmd) 11:46 < Kayofeld> meh 11:46 < Kayofeld> sorry for that 11:47 < Reverend> morning freakos 11:53 < YetiFiasco> Anyone here know their stuff with PRTG? 11:53 < YetiFiasco> I cannot get it to set up vmware sensors at all despite being given full credentials 11:53 < rootsudo> Tanium is a bullshit product 11:53 < rootsudo> it's an overpriced SCCM 12:04 < Kayofeld> isn't SCCM always overpriced ? 12:20 < Kayofeld> Create a feature->execution errors->something that has nothing to do with my code->no unit testing 12:20 < Kayofeld> fffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu 12:40 < ceofreak> FOG ftw 12:42 < MikeSeth> i tried to have my junior set it up 12:42 < MikeSeth> tldr i will have to redo it 12:42 < ceofreak> what? 12:42 < ceofreak> Fog? 12:42 < MikeSeth> yes 12:42 < ceofreak> https://www.ceos3c.com/sysadmin/install-fog-server-ubuntu-server-16-04-lts-ultimate-guide-virtualbox/ 12:42 < MikeSeth> he a bit tarded 12:42 < ceofreak> wrote the only fucking complete tutorial for it out there 12:42 < ceofreak> let him try again with this 12:42 < MikeSeth> nah ill just get a new one 12:58 < Wannabejrsysadm> Atro are you here ? 12:58 < ceofreak> Atro is hacking the Gibson 12:58 < plop> how's your hangover ceofreak ? 12:58 < Atro> Wannabejrsysadm: yes hp boi 12:58 < ceofreak> Much much better 12:58 < Atro> what is it 12:58 < Wannabejrsysadm> I need somoane with some networking / firewall knoweldge :P 12:58 < Wannabejrsysadm> Atro i'l pm you 12:58 < Atro> you dont have a firewall 12:59 < Atro> you have a shitbrci 12:59 < Atro> *shitbrik 12:59 < plop> lol 12:59 < ceofreak> I had a nice big salad and couple of coffees 12:59 < ceofreak> brought me back to life 12:59 < plop> someone post that in the quotes site 12:59 < plop> ceofreak, no irish coffee? 12:59 < ceofreak> Na man 12:59 < plop> heh 13:00 < Wannabejrsysadm> Atro see pm :p 13:13 < MikeSeth> speaking of firewalls, I just bought a tp-link wr802n 13:13 < MikeSeth> and holy god it's tiny 13:14 < MikeSeth> I am going to openwrt it and make it a MIGHTY FIREWALL OF WIN, GOD, IPV6 AND DARK WEBS 13:14 < ceofreak> Why 13:14 < ceofreak> pfSense. 13:14 < ceofreak> It makes more sense, it says it in the word itself 13:14 < MikeSeth> ceofreak: because it's an $20 mips box with 8Mb flash 13:15 < FenJai> Does anyone want to make some beermoney writing some documentation for me ? 13:15 < ceofreak> oops 13:15 < ceofreak> :D 13:15 < ceofreak> Sup FenJai 13:15 < FenJai> Yo ceofreak 13:15 < mrWhiteMD> MikeSeth: did you tried MikroTik ? 13:16 < MikeSeth> mrWhiteMD: no 13:16 < FenJai> ceofreak, want to make some cash writing a feasibility doc for MS office licenses ? 13:16 < ceofreak> Absolutely not. 13:16 < ceofreak> I have enough writing to do 13:16 < MikeSeth> oh wow there are some very cheap models 13:16 < ceofreak> fucking security report 13:16 < mrWhiteMD> MikeSeth: https://mikrotik.com/product/RB941-2nD 13:17 < MikeSeth> FenJai: there's not enough money in the world to make me touch microsoft licensing 13:17 < ceofreak> ^ 13:17 < FenJai> Whys that MikeSeth ? 13:17 < MikeSeth> FenJai: because it's 9gag-level cancer 13:18 < FenJai> Everyone uses office 13:18 < FenJai> Sadly 13:18 < MikeSeth> mrWhiteMD: oh man that is great 13:18 < MikeSeth> FenJai: not me 13:18 < MikeSeth> I just emacs 13:18 * MikeSeth hardcore 13:18 < ceofreak> vim 13:18 < FenJai> Ha, sadly my office is nowhere near that yet 13:19 < MikeSeth> gas vim users 13:19 < MikeSeth> editor war now 13:22 < Hatsjoe> Kayofeld: what good would source do in my case? source is merely used to execute commands in your shell from a file 13:22 < Hatsjoe> ihre: ssh-agent -t 1800 works in .xinitrc 13:24 < mrWhiteMD> MikeSeth: on this 'shitty' 20$ router i have WLAN AP, vlan for iptv, decent firewall, PPTP, and a lot of NAT rules 13:25 < mrWhiteMD> for home or some shop its perfect if you don't need 1gb ports 13:25 < MikeSeth> mrWhiteMD: I definitely love it 13:25 < MikeSeth> mrWhiteMD: I'll pick one up 13:26 < MikeSeth> in fact i want a couple 13:35 < estranger> MikeSeth: you must never deal with Oracle licenses.. you would run back to msft with arms wide open :P 13:35 < MikeSeth> I will never deal with Oracle licenses 13:35 < E-werd> There's a skeeter on my peter, whack it off! 13:36 < MikeSeth> cha-cha-cha 13:47 < Wannabejrsysadm> are online port tool checkers reliable ? 13:47 < Wannabejrsysadm> I want to check if a port is open on my public ip ? 13:47 < MikeSeth> Wannabejrsysadm: do it from another box 13:48 < Wannabejrsysadm> i did via telnet via my mobile hotspot 13:48 < Wannabejrsysadm> but for some reason 13:48 < Wannabejrsysadm> everything worked ? o. 13:48 < Wannabejrsysadm> like very port telnet 13:48 < Wannabejrsysadm> every* 13:51 < ihre> nmap 13:51 < ihre> zenmap 13:51 < ihre> ... which is gui for nmap 13:51 < ceofreak> ^ 13:51 < ceofreak> zenmap 13:53 < ceofreak> nice finally got the fucking script to run 13:54 < Hatsjoe> Wannabejrsysadm: if every port via telnet worked via your mobile hotspot, then something is seriously wrong with your firewall, or your ISP is doing something funky with their network 13:54 < ceofreak> date 13:55 < ceofreak> wrong window 13:55 < Hatsjoe> But yeah, online port checkers are pretty reliable, to be sure, check it using a couple different sites 13:55 < Wannabejrsysadm> ye 13:55 < Wannabejrsysadm> did that 13:55 < Hatsjoe> Or shoot me the ip/port via query and I can check from my server 13:55 < Hatsjoe> alright, cool 13:55 < ceofreak> Let me check too ~~ 13:56 < Hatsjoe> huehuehue 13:56 < Wannabejrsysadm> :( 13:56 < Wannabejrsysadm> no hackerino pleaserino 13:56 < Hatsjoe> I'll pentest you :P 13:57 < mkillebrew> hot 13:58 < Wannabejrsysadm> talk dirty to me 13:58 < Wannabejrsysadm> :') 13:58 < mkillebrew> pop my stack bby 13:58 < FenJai> ceofreak, 12/04/2018 13:59 < ceofreak> thanks bro 13:59 < Kayofeld> Hatsjoe: was for a previous question 13:59 < Hatsjoe> Kayofeld: hehe alright 14:00 < Kayofeld> Hatsjoe: to be honest I only used source to update the bashrc config in my active shell 14:00 <+giant_it_burrit> die in a fire 14:00 <+giant_it_burrit> did i win 14:00 < Kayofeld> Still 2 weeks as a dev, it's over soon \o/ 14:01 < Hatsjoe> I just use '. .bashrc' (dot is a synonym of source) 14:01 < Kayofeld> oh, nice, thanks 14:01 < Hatsjoe> :) 14:01 < FenJai> Saving you 5ms 14:02 < Kayofeld> in a lifetime 14:02 < Hatsjoe> yeah especially because I use 'source' 1000 times a day :P 14:07 < Kayofeld> btw: it's already a bit known, but if you like management games, you should take a look at factorio 14:07 < Kayofeld> tried a bit in the past days, it's really good 14:07 < Kayofeld> so much possibilities 14:07 < MikeSeth> if by "management" you mean "weaponized autism" 14:08 < Kayofeld> MikeSeth: haha 14:08 < MikeSeth> I wasnt joking 14:08 < MikeSeth> if you want less autism try rimworld, it's like dward fortress in space but not as horrible and hopeless 14:08 < MikeSeth> I mean deep and endless 14:09 < Jekotia> s/dward/dwarf 14:09 <+layer-eight> MikeSeth meant: "if you want less autism try rimworld, it's like dwarf fortress in space but not as horrible and hopeless" 14:10 < Trapdoor> rimworld is baller 14:12 < Jekotia> Different genre, but if you want space dwarves try Deep Rock Galactic 14:13 <@cryptic1> evening 14:13 * cryptic1 smirks 14:14 < MikeSeth> i always wanted to write my own df-like end of the world simulator 14:14 < MikeSeth> one day 14:14 < MikeSeth> maybe 14:15 < MikeSeth> Jekotia: holy shit thats awesome 14:15 < MikeSeth> do want 14:16 < Jekotia> MikeSeth: I saw some gameplay from the "YouTuber" Teo and picked it up. It's a lot of fun. But, I caution against too much play at this point. It's lacking a lot of the depth that will come through further development (it's considered Alpha ATM), and I can see burnout being a real issue 14:17 < Jekotia> I feel that the crafting system sorta suffers from "what if" during missions right now 14:18 < Jekotia> "what if this branch we haven't explored and don't need to explore has the thing I need to upgrade my gear?" happens a LOT, and it ends up feeling like a waste of time in more complex cave systems 14:18 < MikeSeth> yeah yeah 14:18 < MikeSeth> mrWhiteMD: I ordered two of dem lil bitches 14:18 < MikeSeth> mrWhiteMD: thanks for the tip 14:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> morning fellas 14:34 < plop> sup McDonaldsWiFi 14:34 < ceofreak> Ihre 14:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> plop: how's it going man? 14:34 < mrWhiteMD> MikeSeth: no problem, now lear RouterOS )) 14:34 < plop> good. slow day today. 14:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> plop: wish i could say the same brother 14:36 < plop> McDonaldsWiFi, sorry to hear :D 14:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> ^^ 14:36 < plop> saturday we got an event and i'll be working from 8am to 1am or so... 14:36 < plop> mostly slacking but i need to stay 14:36 < ceofreak> what was the command to manually runa cronjob? 14:36 < ceofreak> to test it 14:40 < ihre> ceofreak: you .. dont, its executed at a timer, but you could try to just run the cmd you've set in the cronjob by hand, or adjust the timer so it runs every x minutes or something 14:40 < ceofreak> ah true 14:40 < ceofreak> good call 14:40 < ceofreak> cheers 14:41 <@cryptic1> Everyone BACK TO WORK 14:41 < plop> why is layer-eight not working 14:41 < plop> .bofh 14:41 <+layer-eight> plop, BOFH says: root rot 14:41 < plop> oh. it came back to work 14:41 < Hatsjoe> .bofh 14:41 <+layer-eight> Hatsjoe, BOFH says: pseudo-user on a pseudo-terminal 14:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> Hatsjoe: herro 14:45 < tsarbomba> cryptic1: back to work 14:45 < tsarbomba> plop: back to work 14:45 < tsarbomba> Hatsjoe: back to work 14:45 < tsarbomba> McDonaldsWiFi: back to work 14:45 < tsarbomba> ceofreak: back to work 14:45 < tsarbomba> ihre: back to work 14:45 < tsarbomba> cryptic1: after you finish working make me a sandwich 14:45 < tsarbomba> cryptic1: but GET BACK TO WORK FIRST 14:45 <+giant_it_burrit> tsarbomba: eat poop 14:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> hey there smart guy 14:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> chill out :> 14:46 <+giant_it_burrit> REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE 14:48 < Hatsjoe> McDonaldsWiFi: sup buddy 14:48 < Hatsjoe> tsarbomba: go blow yourself 14:48 < Hatsjoe> pun intented 14:49 < ceofreak> tsarbomba grep coffee 14:49 <+giant_it_burrit> no one move codeman only gets you if you move 14:50 <+giant_it_burrit> that was telepathy 14:50 <+giant_it_burrit> . . 14:50 <+giant_it_burrit> ~ 14:52 < tsarbomba> YES CRYPTIC1 14:52 < tsarbomba> GET TO WORK 14:52 * tsarbomba prepares the GIANT METAL PIMP HAND OF SLAVERY 14:52 < MikeSeth> mrWhiteMD: I'll wipe it and openwrt 14:55 < tsarbomba> the upcoming heat/sixers series has created an uncomfortable atmosphere with philly fans 14:56 < plop> cryptic1's boots are made for kicking 14:57 < tsarbomba> cryptic1 is trying a jedi mind trick but he isn't even a padoun yet :( 14:58 <@Code_Man65> This is not the voice you are looking for 14:59 <@Code_Man65> You may resume speaking 14:59 * tsarbomba orders a burrito 14:59 < tsarbomba> eggs n sausages n cheebs n cheebs n mm mm good 14:59 <@JollyRgrs> tsarbomba: what's this about padajuans? 14:59 < tsarbomba> paddy juans. half-irish, half-mexican. 15:00 < plop> lol 15:00 < Kayofeld> currently reading shitty doc 15:00 < JFDkthx> FUCK NETWORK PEOPLE 15:00 < Kayofeld> is "who're" correct ? 15:01 <@Code_Man65> If they mean who are 15:01 < JFDkthx> stop giving me fucking ips, that dont even exist in my fucking region 15:01 < tsarbomba> our shipping software has started generating a second page along with shipping labels 15:01 < tsarbomba> it has another bar code for usps to scan 15:02 < tsarbomba> should we really be overly complicating the jobs of letter-carriers 15:03 < JFDkthx> yes 15:03 < JFDkthx> the more time that we can waste 15:03 < JFDkthx> the faster usps becomes privatized 15:03 < JFDkthx> and then we can finally charge amazon the correct amount 15:03 < JFDkthx> so they stop ABUSING THE GOOD MEN AND WOMEN OF THE USPS 15:03 < JFDkthx> sad! 15:04 < Kayofeld> Code_Man65: if it's meant as "who are" it's correct ? damn 15:04 < tsarbomba> amazon helped the parcel division turn a profit for the first time in decades 15:04 < tsarbomba> i'm not really sure why d.c. is angry at them 15:04 < JFDkthx> da cheeto 15:04 < tsarbomba> maybe the very act of a division of usps profiting is what made 'em mad 15:05 < JFDkthx> he gets paid to not like them 15:05 < JFDkthx> thats all 15:05 <@Code_Man65> Let's not get into politics 15:05 <@Code_Man65> And yes Kayofeld, who're is a contraction of who are 15:06 < tsarbomba> usps is "politics"? 15:06 < tsarbomba> yesterday you were whining about economics being "politics" 15:06 < vinrock> DON'T QUESTION THE CODE MAN 15:06 < tsarbomba> you keep using that word. i do not think it means what you think it means. 15:06 <@Code_Man65> Not yesterday I wasn't, I wasn't here 15:06 < vinrock> also wtf is 0x4 reading on vbat 15:06 < McDonaldsWiFi> tsarbomba: man I used to work for USPS, you wouldn't believe how much their prioritize amazon boxes lol 15:06 < tsarbomba> cache battery on a controller? 15:06 < vinrock> mobo 15:06 < tsarbomba> cmos batt, perhaps 15:07 < vinrock> its what ipmi is showing me, trying to diagnose something 15:07 < felda> can we just take a moment to get angry at quickbooks server not being able to run on a windows server machine that is also running windows DNS server? 15:07 < tsarbomba> tl;dr vbatt is probably batt voltage, cmos batt probably getting low 15:07 < vinrock> yeah im just wondering what 0x4 denotes 15:07 < tsarbomba> it's hard for a battery to go overvoltage so you usually assume a voltage warning on a batt is undervoltage 15:07 < tsarbomba> undervoltage generally means close to death 15:07 < vinrock> reading is 04ff which would be 1275 15:07 < vinrock> no way the battery is at 1.275v the thing would be bitchin at me 15:07 < Church-> Morning folks. 15:08 < vinrock> (brand new mobo from supermicro) 15:08 < Church-> So, that interview went well. 15:08 < tsarbomba> yeah i can't reconcile that number 15:08 < asimon> Good morning my friends 15:08 < vinrock> man i cant believe its 2018 and theres still stuff that you cant easily find on the internuts 15:08 < asimon> even though its kind of a shitty morning 15:09 < vinrock> https://i.imgur.com/T11Fi6b.png 15:09 < tsarbomba> maybe the cmos can keep its config at 1.2v but i would swap the battery (it's, what, $2?) just in case 15:09 < tsarbomba> vinrock, the older the stuff gets the harder it is to find on the internets 15:09 < vinrock> goddamn google 15:10 < tsarbomba> google needs the space to catalog all the new datamining firm web sites 15:11 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> vinrock, Confuse the shit outta them and check all boxes. 15:11 < vinrock> check Other: Taiwanese 15:11 < vinrock> minds:blown 15:11 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> lol 15:12 < felda> Code_Man65 invented BitConnect 15:12 < Trapdoor> BITCONNEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee~~~~~~~~~~~~ 15:12 < felda> +++++++++ 15:13 < Trapdoor> i say i say i say i say 15:13 < Trapdoor> wassa wassa wassa wassa wassa wassa 15:13 < Trapdoor> BITCONNEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee~~~~~~~~~~~~ 15:13 < Trapdoor> it's funny because it says "bitcon" right there 15:13 < Trapdoor> and no-one saw it coming 15:14 < mrWhiteMD> MikeSeth: lol, why will you do that? RouterOS is superior then OpenWRT 15:15 < MikeSeth> mrWhiteMD: I'm sure it is but I can do things with linux and routeros would need learnin 15:16 < MikeSeth> for example, how do I create a bastion container? on routeros i have no frigging idea 15:18 < mrWhiteMD> MikeSeth: define bastion container 15:19 < MikeSeth> mrWhiteMD: an isolated lightweight process space I can login to remotely with SSH, using it as a jump host to internal network 15:19 <+giant_it_burrit> your mother trebeck 15:19 < MikeSeth> right now i use a cubox for it 15:20 < MikeSeth> but a container would also do 15:20 < mrWhiteMD> MikeSeth: easy 15:20 < mrWhiteMD> make an access list, and firewall rule, DENY ALL Except access list 15:20 < mrWhiteMD> for port 22 15:21 < MikeSeth> yes and port 22 would log me in where 15:21 < MikeSeth> the router itself? 15:21 < mrWhiteMD> yes why not 15:21 < mrWhiteMD> it's blocked for everyone except your ip or mac 15:21 < MikeSeth> because i want an isolated blank space that shares very little with the host system 15:22 < shoh> fuck you cryptic1 15:22 <@cryptic1> in a meeting sorry 15:22 < MikeSeth> mrWhiteMD: least privilege principle etc 15:22 * MikeSeth anal 15:22 < plop> .seen shoh 15:22 <+layer-eight> shoh spoke in #reddit-sysadmin 51 seconds ago. Message: fuck you cryptic1 15:23 < shoh> .seen gosushoh 15:23 <+layer-eight> 'gosushoh' not found. 15:23 < shoh> ur a prick cryptic1 15:25 < Reverend> ^ -1 15:25 < Reverend> we love cryptic1 15:28 < adgud> https://gpgtools.org/ - do you consider this legit and safe? or stick to the brew and cli? 15:31 < tsarbomba> is it friday yet 15:31 < ceofreak> unfortunately not 15:31 < ceofreak> but fuck tomorrow is 15:31 < ceofreak> gooooooooood 15:31 <@JollyRgrs> ok, who here is good with meltdown/spectre stuff on windows? I have some questions 15:32 <@JollyRgrs> shoh: don't you have a job or something? 15:34 <+TuxedoJack> Oh, my tier 1s are learning about vendors who are "calling to follow up" on nonexistent e-mails 15:34 <+TuxedoJack> This is fun 15:34 <+TuxedoJack> I'm teaching them to send the sales fuckers' info (and personal info) to their competitors to get them on their lists 15:34 < hxcsp> TuxedoJack: sign them up for solarwinds 15:35 <@Code_Man65> What's up JollyRgrs? 15:35 < Nightcinder> hi 15:35 <+TuxedoJack> hxcsp: Solarwinds is right up at the top of the list 15:35 <+TuxedoJack> Along with Symantec and MSP-centric data collection companies 15:35 < felda> shoh are you here to stay? 15:36 < tsarbomba> the latest fuckery seems to be when a vendor sends you spam about some shitty webinar or another and then calls later to "follow up" on the webinar you ignored 15:36 < tsarbomba> there's no real opt-in at any point but somehow they game it like there was 15:36 <+TuxedoJack> tsarbomba: yeah, this is some VOIP-selling motherfucker 15:36 <@JollyRgrs> Code_Man65: you know the 2nd patch in january that set a reg key to put a stop to one of the fixes due to the bad intel microcode? 15:36 <+TuxedoJack> I already have to put up with Vitelity and VOIPInnovations, why the fuck do I want to deal with another goddamn vendor 15:37 <+giant_it_burrit> yes 15:37 <@JollyRgrs> if we didn't apply that patch but do apply cumulative... do we need to do something, today, to fully protect on the OS side? 15:37 <@Code_Man65> On workstations the protections are enabled automatically 15:37 <+giant_it_burrit> i would think its in the rollup 15:37 <@Code_Man65> On servers you MUST add the registry keys to enable protections 15:37 < L3gacy> bork bork bork. Hyper-V sucks 15:37 <@JollyRgrs> Code_Man65: ok, thanks 15:38 < mkillebrew> I had a yubikey for my GPG, but it appears to have crumbled after being attached to my keychain 15:38 < L3gacy> So... I had fun. Hyperv's network interface bullshit fucked with my custom TCPIP stack settings >.< 15:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> L3gacy: I'm not a fan of Hyper-Vs network shit either tbh 15:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> that's probably the part I like the least about it 15:40 < L3gacy> I'm about to install virtual box, or find 3 friggin 512 Sata SSDs and get this server back up 15:40 < L3gacy> Go Proxmox 15:40 < L3gacy> Tho I do have a stack of Server 2012 DVDs and keys... 15:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> what did hyper v do to your settings? 15:41 < L3gacy> Reset them to stock >.< 15:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> wait 15:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> what -.- 15:41 < L3gacy> Frigging turned Nageling back on... 15:41 < L3gacy> I have my TCP/IP stack to ACK/NACK EACH packet 15:42 < L3gacy> not groups 15:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> oh 15:42 < L3gacy> Ping shot up 20ms 15:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> how much overhead does that create? 15:42 < L3gacy> I used Leatrix's latency fix to fix it 15:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> sounds hacky 15:43 < hxcsp> leatrix latency fix 15:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> no wonder the shit died lol 15:43 < hxcsp> i havent heard that since the Wow days 15:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> ^ 15:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> but 200ms is normal hxcsp :P 15:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> said blizzard 15:43 < L3gacy> hxcsp, I'm slackmassah on Moon Guard 15:43 < hxcsp> yeah i dont play anymore 15:44 < L3gacy> I wrote my backstory, finally 15:45 < MikeSeth> L3gacy: do you want to give me some 2012 keys totally free 15:46 < L3gacy> MikeSeth, I wouldnt mind :) 15:46 < MikeSeth> this sounds like a trap 15:46 < hxcsp> someone in the office brought in their $10 "gaming" keyboard asking if it was ok to use because the Dell one we provide didnt type good 15:46 < MikeSeth> is it a trap 15:46 < hxcsp> looks like a normal keyboard with Gray WASD keys and a few extra buttons 15:46 < MikeSeth> hxcsp: well duh that's what those are 15:46 < Nightcinder> that was a new one 15:46 < hxcsp> shouldve said no to be a dick 15:46 < L3gacy> Not a trap. I'm a break fix tech, looking to move into Sysadmining again 15:46 < Nightcinder> ubiquiti AP showed Disabled (Auto) 15:47 < L3gacy> hxcsp, I gave away my Razer Cynos PRO RGB 15:47 < L3gacy> *Cynosa 15:47 < MikeSeth> I have a Das 15:47 < L3gacy> Das is sexy 15:47 < hxcsp> that ones not mech 15:47 < hxcsp> gotta have a mech 15:47 < MikeSeth> and I will absolutely murder every single one of you if you tried to take it 15:47 < L3gacy> I'm looking at a Corsair K70 15:47 < DeVito> Which Das though 15:47 <+giant_it_burrit> bite me 15:47 < DeVito> 4, or S? Pro, or Ultimate? 15:47 < hxcsp> i have a WASD Code V2 15:48 < hxcsp> not "gaming" but i use it for work and home 15:48 <+TuxedoJack> L3gacy: I have that in RGB, it's fucking awesome 15:48 < hxcsp> mech or bust 15:48 <+TuxedoJack> My only regret is that I bought the Cherry Red one instead of Cherry Blue 15:48 < MikeSeth> DeVito: 4 pro 15:48 < L3gacy> TuxedoJack, nice 15:48 < DeVito> MikeSeth, ay same as my office keyboard 15:48 < L3gacy> I want the cherry Black 15:48 < DeVito> Cherry MX Blues 15:48 < L3gacy> I want my typing to sound like my joints cracking 15:48 < DeVito> When you want coworkers to murder you 15:49 < MikeSeth> shits mofuggin godly 15:49 < L3gacy> "Wasss poppin, dawg?" 15:49 < L3gacy> Every joint in my body. I'm old 15:49 < MikeSeth> L3gacy: I'd love to have a bunch of 2012 server keys 15:49 < estranger> i got a keyboard built right into my laptop 15:49 < L3gacy> I'll get the stack from the shop. We dont use them, as all our kit is 2016 15:49 < MikeSeth> allahu akbar 15:50 < L3gacy> Salaam, sadiq. K'fhalk? 15:50 < MikeSeth> ahlan vasahlan ya sheikh 15:50 < L3gacy> My friend, Ali Kaced, was teaching me Algerian Arabic 15:50 < L3gacy> He got ICE called on him for drugs, tho >.< 15:50 < L3gacy> His OWN MOTHER 15:51 < MikeSeth> lol ownt 15:51 < L3gacy> He's barred from reentry for 5 years 15:51 < MikeSeth> algerian arabic is beautiful (Desert Rose hell yeah) 15:51 < L3gacy> Hell ya. Time to bump that on the PA @ work 15:51 < tenthshift> L3gacy, that sucks 15:52 < L3gacy> yeah :( 15:52 < L3gacy> He's a Criminal Justice Major at the local UNI, and minoring in religious studies 15:53 < MikeSeth> bhahaha 15:53 < MikeSeth> was 15:53 < L3gacy> yeah 15:53 < L3gacy> Almost had his bachelor's 15:54 < MikeSeth> > Michael, check out these new product updates! 15:54 < L3gacy> NO 15:54 < MikeSeth> haha fuck you I am cancelling the account next month 15:55 < L3gacy> lololol 15:56 < L3gacy> Only PA in town with subwoofers... 15:56 < L3gacy> Samira Said, next 15:56 < L3gacy> Youm Wara Youm 15:58 < Church-> Heya TuxedoJack 15:58 < Church-> Other assorted fuckwits. 15:58 < Hatter> Good morning guys. I hope you've been well. 15:59 < L3gacy> Hay 15:59 < Church-> Heya fake-me. 16:00 <+TuxedoJack> Ahoyhoy, Church-. 16:03 < estranger> I WAS doing well, thanks for showing up Hatter 16:03 < tsarbomba> somebody's feeling silky-smooth 16:07 < Sousapro> hi Church- 16:15 < estranger> i hate FICO, im ready to become a hermit I think 16:16 < Casteil> fico as in.. credit score? 16:16 < estranger> yeah 16:17 < Casteil> mine's been going up even more since I took on a mortgage haha 16:17 < estranger> everything you do raises one part of your score but lowers another hehe 16:17 < Zrane> Casteil: You have something they can take from you, now. 16:17 < estranger> mines good but i want the BEST cus that's how I am lol 16:18 < estranger> biggest hit on my score is my average length of credit. what a stupid metric 16:18 < Casteil> before I took on my mortgage my score was hovering around 850-860, now it's at or around 900 16:18 < Casteil> estranger: that's not stupid really 16:18 < estranger> Casteil, so if I want a new card cus im credit is good, getting that card will lower your score. 16:18 < Casteil> also, err - my bad, was 750-760, now it's right around 800 16:19 < Casteil> estranger: ever so slightly. the metric is in place because 'revolving door' clients don't really make them money 16:19 < estranger> yeah mine is like 780 16:19 < Casteil> you get people that hop around credit cards for 0% apr offers 16:20 < estranger> yeah I guess. 16:20 < L3gacy> 522 16:20 < Casteil> I might hop on a new one for a 0% apr offer soon 16:20 < L3gacy> Bad relationships 16:20 < Casteil> I've seen a few offers for 18+ months of 0% apr lately 16:21 < estranger> i just use cards for the rewards 16:21 < Casteil> which might come in handy if/when I need to buy a new HVAC system 16:21 < Casteil> same. I've never paid a credit card company a dime in interest; I pay them off in full month to month (though if I have 0% APR I might float a bigger balance for a month or two) 16:21 < estranger> i just took out a credit line for a few grand at 0% for 24 months to pay something off that I could have paid cash, but at 0% why not? then it dinged my credit score.... oh yeah thats why 16:22 < estranger> and thats dumb! perfectly valid use of my good credit... but you take advantage and you get dinged 16:22 < Casteil> I don't know, seems kinda fair 16:22 < estranger> ding me when i miss a payment 16:22 < Casteil> if you're hopping around companies to avoid paying the one you owe interest.. eh 16:22 < estranger> im not though 16:23 < Casteil> but a lot of people do 16:23 < estranger> sure, but im not. and i get dinged for doing very very legit things 16:23 < estranger> hense, FICO Vantage 3.0 is garbage 16:23 < vinrock> noice 16:23 < vinrock> fixed co workers subwoofer 16:23 < estranger> because of how its setup im NOT getting a new credit card that I want to get 16:23 < vinrock> got me a case of beer 16:24 < estranger> so its hurting that creidt card company 16:25 < estranger> when I go to some card's HQs their food areas dont accept cash and ONLY accept their own credit card lol so im SOL sometimes 16:31 < tsarbomba> you guys clicking cookies furiously? 16:31 < estranger> https://www.polygon.com/fortnite-battle-royale/2018/4/12/17228620/fortnite-servers-down <-- this is what happens when you let friends use mongo 16:32 < estranger> "webscale" haha 16:32 < MikeSeth> i am moderately appoint 16:33 <+DomLS3> estranger: #donger 16:33 < estranger> https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/en-US/news/postmortem-of-service-outage-at-3-4m-ccu .. not even the first time 16:33 < hxcsp> databaseee 16:35 < estranger> sharding FTL 16:35 <+DomLS3> s/ard/art 16:35 <+layer-eight> estranger meant: "sharting FTL" 16:35 < estranger> that too 16:36 < felda> anyone know of decent C# guide/tutorial/class? 16:36 < felda> I have to modify a C# plugin written for Microsoft CRM 16:37 < estranger> sounds fun as hell 16:37 < squealingcode> Does anyone here happen to be an OpenVPN guru? :D 16:37 < xtensive> codebabes felda 16:38 < felda> >_> can't tell if joking or.... 16:38 < xtensive> lol somewhat joking 16:39 < GrandWizardZippy> how goes it 16:39 < Casteil> felda: what do you want to accomplish? lol 16:39 < felda> I actually entertained that thought 16:39 < Casteil> you can do a lot of things with C# 16:40 < Casteil> whether it be game development, webapps, UWP apps 16:40 < felda> Casteil re-writing / modifying a Microsoft Dynamics 365 XRM Plugin 16:40 < felda> my main problem is it is not calculating negative profit 16:40 < Casteil> you want to rewrite a C# plugin without C# knowledge? :X 16:40 < xtensive> you have the source code? 16:40 < estranger> c# aint no joke 16:41 < felda> xtensive I have ripped the plugin from the environment and decompiled it using jetbrains 16:41 <+DomLS3> felda: maybe pfsense can help you 16:41 <+DomLS3> oh wait 16:41 <+DomLS3> it can’t 16:41 <+DomLS3> because it’s garbage 16:41 < felda> DomLS3 you can't even write a BAT file get outta here 16:41 < estranger> can I use pfsense as a router and have it automatically send RSTs to a tcp stream after X time passes? 16:42 <+DomLS3> felda: I BATTED your mom’s face with my sack last night what you talking about 16:42 < felda> but basically it rolls up the products into total product cost and total product revenue but when calculating profit it never goes negative it always writes 0 to the profit value 16:43 < felda> Here is pastebin of relevant code https://pastebin.com/xCp4SMAv 16:43 < felda> I have a feeling it has something to do with the IF statement but I've never done C# and don't know how to read that 16:44 < tsarbomba> oye camel va 16:45 <+DomLS3> felda: why is it returning two different values? 16:45 < felda> I didn't write this so I have no idea 16:45 <+DomLS3> “return new Decimal(0)” and “return this.Price - this.Cost” 16:45 < shoh> fuck you cryptic1 16:45 <+DomLS3> ah 16:45 <@cryptic1> D: 16:45 < felda> shoh back to work 16:46 < shoh> wheres my voice you vapid cunt 16:46 <@Code_Man65> Ursula has it 16:46 <+DomLS3> pfsense 16:46 < xtensive> it's outside the if statement DomLS3 16:46 < shoh> pfsense 16:46 < shoh> esnesfp 16:46 <+DomLS3> shit 16:46 < DomLS3> my +v 16:47 < DomLS3> noooo 16:47 < shoh> heh 16:47 < shoh> heheheh 16:47 < DomLS3> code_man65 16:47 < DomLS3> :( 16:47 < shoh> there you go cryptic1 16:47 < shoh> gimmie his +v 16:47 < DomLS3> <<<< 16:47 <+shoh> yessss 16:47 * DomLS3 coughs 16:47 <+shoh> I HAVE 16:47 <+shoh> THE 16:47 <+shoh> POWERRRRRR 16:47 < DomLS3> Code_Man65 -_- 16:48 < shoh> wowsers 16:49 < subsystem> vmware has givne me cancer 16:49 < subsystem> is there a support group for this 16:49 < tsarbomba> giving with one hand and taking with the other 16:49 < shoh> pfsense 16:49 < shoh> esnesfp 16:49 < shoh> this is me 16:49 < shoh> https://youtu.be/jeKFzJIbT1k?t=52 16:49 <+layer-eight> YouTube A Fistful of Dollars - Final Showdown by 2014-08-07T03:43:04.000Z (duration: 6:53) on Thu Aug 07 10:43:04 UTC 2014, 2014-08-07T03:43:04.000Z views 16:49 <@Code_Man65> I really hate it when I'm stuck waiting on a vendor response 16:50 < felda> Code_Man65 can you just kick shoh for being a tosser? 16:50 < shoh> who is da vendor 16:50 <@Code_Man65> Morpheus 16:50 < shoh> lol 16:50 < shoh> we are looking at them 16:50 < Hatter> shoh: quality link 16:50 <@Code_Man65> I'm asking them why they don't like elliptic curve ssh keys 16:50 < shoh> what have you integrated it with Code_Man65? 16:50 < tsarbomba> pfelda why are you hating so hard today 16:50 < shoh> azure, vmware ect 16:51 <@Code_Man65> We are still in the early stages but we have vmware, azure, and aws all in it 16:51 < shoh> MSP? 16:51 <@Code_Man65> No, fortune 500 16:51 < estranger> EC keys have been around a while now... wtf 16:51 < shoh> ah 16:52 < Zrane> So MS appears to have depreciated Infopath, but their new 'Forms' app on 365 is just a fucking survey builder. 16:52 < Zrane> No bitches, I need a fucking form. 16:52 < shoh> why 16:52 <@Code_Man65> They also don't support https netscaler api access yet 16:52 <@Code_Man65> But that is supposed to be fixed by the end of this month 16:52 < estranger> whats morpheus? 16:52 < shoh> netscalers are always a pain though tbh 16:52 < shoh> not because of the API 16:52 < tsarbomba> sounds like you need to upgrade to microsoft's 365plus subscription 16:52 < shoh> just coz netscaler 16:52 <@Code_Man65> CMP estranger 16:52 < Nightcinder> fuck 16:52 < estranger> https://www.morpheusdata.com/ ? 16:52 < Nightcinder> an esx host just went down 16:53 < Nightcinder> can ping it but can't access it 16:53 < shoh> You have netscaler drop outs when they vmotion Code_Man65? 16:53 < xtensive> He's the one who will free you estranger 16:53 < Zrane> tsarbomba, They already get a first and second born, and three whole limbs from us. 16:53 <@Code_Man65> Yep estranger 16:53 <@Code_Man65> Nope, shoh 16:53 < tsarbomba> you've got a limb left, don't you? 16:53 < shoh> heh 16:53 < shoh> we do 16:53 < estranger> ah is this like rightscale? 16:53 < shoh> they dont fully drop 16:53 < shoh> but the netscaler can see a drop 16:53 < Zrane> tsarbomba, We don't use my limbs. My desktop guys provide those, so I need them to have a hand. 16:53 < estranger> ie, i login to myrightscale and I can deploy to azure/aws/gcp 16:53 < tsarbomba> they can always substitute a nut 16:54 < estranger> s/myrightscale/my rightscale 16:54 <+layer-eight> estranger meant: "ie, i login to my rightscale and I can deploy to azure/aws/gcp" 16:54 < shoh> Netscalers don't support vmotioning either 16:54 < Zrane> tsarbomba, the newest cryptocurrency. NutCoin. 16:54 <@Code_Man65> We have hardware netscalers, not virtual 16:54 < shoh> ah 16:54 < shoh> why didn't you mention that when I referred to vmotioning? 16:54 < shoh> jeasus 16:54 < shoh> wasted my keystrokes 16:55 <@Code_Man65> Because I thought you meant when a vm vmotioned 16:55 < shoh> 8====D 16:55 <@Code_Man65> However, I do know there have been some conversations about switching to F5 16:56 < Trapdoor> I'm leaving 4 minutes early today so my coworker won't ask me for some stupid bullshit at 5:01pm 16:57 < Trapdoor> nobody make a sound while I sneak out 16:57 * arlion farts 16:57 < estranger> i used to leave a spare jacket on my chair +keys when id sneak out early so people would think I was just in the shitter or something 16:58 < arlion> estranger: would you go back and grab them? 16:58 < arlion> or come back super early? 16:58 < estranger> naa id get in earlier than most folks typically 16:58 < xtensive> That's why summer is the best, no jacket to give you away leaving early 16:58 < estranger> plus I didnt give a fuck anyhow really if people knew I left 17:00 < tsarbomba> i put in more hours than anybody here. zero fucks given about who knows if/when i sneak out early 17:00 < ihre> into shitposting? 17:00 < felda> decimal constructors are dumb 17:01 < tsarbomba> no, we leave that to you, ihre 17:01 < ihre> im not that good at it 17:01 < shoh> I wish I coulkd leave early Trapdoor 17:01 < tsarbomba> felda, are you reading VB programming for dummies or something 17:01 < shoh> but alas 17:01 < shoh> I work at home 17:01 < shoh> hehehehehehehe 17:02 < felda> tsarbomba I'm reading this plugin that some rich programmer wrote for us 5 years ago 17:02 < felda> going in with literally zero C# or .NET experience 17:04 * MikeSeth wrestles with ansible task debugger 17:05 < Heresiarch> MikeSeth: $deity save you. 17:05 < MikeSeth> no need, am jew. 17:06 < Heresiarch> $deity isn't hardcoded. 17:06 < MikeSeth> null value is 17:10 < vinrock> L'CHAIM! 17:10 < Nightcinder> NEAT I GET TO BRING DOWN THE ENTIRE INFRASTRUCTURE 17:10 < Nightcinder> i sort of forgot that both terminal servers and the DC were on the same server 17:10 < MikeSeth> Nightcinder: begin with Cali 17:10 < Nightcinder> and that server just disappeared 17:10 < Nightcinder> so both DC's, and both TS's are on the same ESXi box that just stopped responding 17:10 < Nightcinder> A+ 17:10 < vinrock> uh 17:10 < MikeSeth> it's probably just a building fire 17:11 < MikeSeth> don't worry 17:11 < Heresiarch> #smblife 17:11 < Nightcinder> the server is on 17:11 < Nightcinder> but esx has crashed 17:11 < Droog0x> So guys I'm almost done scanning 6,000 Aruba iap-RAP3s 17:11 < vinrock> only 2 dc's... both on same hardware? 17:11 < Nightcinder> as has the physical controller on the box 17:11 < MikeSeth> oh 17:11 < MikeSeth> esx crashed? 17:11 < tsarbomba> PSOD 17:11 < Nightcinder> the vm's are up 17:11 < MikeSeth> use your support contract to report the problem! 17:11 <+AnonymooseReddtr> mornin guys 17:11 < Nightcinder> ilo is up 17:11 < vinrock> sup meng 17:11 < Nightcinder> but i can't SSH or web into it 17:12 < Nightcinder> vinrock: basically yes 17:12 < vinrock> aye yayai! 17:12 <+AnonymooseReddtr> so... SCv3020 Compellent, or NetApp FAS 2560? , SCv3020 would use 10gb Rj45, NetApp would be SFP+ 17:12 < Nightcinder> vinrock: i have 3 DC's actually but one is in another plant 17:13 < Nightcinder> and two of the three are fucked up and i need to migrate off of them 17:13 < Nightcinder> but i don't have time 17:13 < Nightcinder> because i have to play helpdesk too 17:13 < vinrock> thats the one thing in my job i wont do 17:13 < Nightcinder> we have 3 IT people total 17:13 < vinrock> partly because i aint dealing with peoples shit, but also bcuz i just dont have time 17:14 <+AnonymooseReddtr> Nightcinder - nice yeah we have 2 17:14 < Nightcinder> vinrock: i brought up a server 2016 with no UI as the new DC 17:14 < vinrock> nice 17:14 < Nightcinder> but i have to migrate all the shitty AD shit over 17:14 < Nightcinder> which is a giant pain in the ass 17:16 <@JollyRgrs> so, i did a bad thing 17:16 <+AnonymooseReddtr> did you quit 17:16 < vinrock> did you give the bad touch 17:16 <@JollyRgrs> took yesterday off... cept for 1 meeting at 10:30... caught up with the 50 unread emails since that morning (post-filtering rules) 17:16 < Heresiarch> ... 17:16 <@JollyRgrs> come back with many emails again, so i.... 17:17 <@JollyRgrs> turned on conversation mode in outlook :O 17:17 < vinrock> :o 17:17 < Nightcinder> well i have to migrate the DC to a different storage unit and we don't have vmotion 17:17 < Nightcinder> so 17:17 < Nightcinder> this should help 17:17 < Heresiarch> ...and *that's* what you think the bad thing was? 17:17 <@JollyRgrs> Heresiarch: i always turned that junk off 17:17 <@JollyRgrs> it's icky... like the "focused" mailbox thing 17:18 < Nightcinder> i hate focused mailbox 17:18 <@JollyRgrs> lol 17:18 < Heresiarch> JollyRgrs: smh 17:18 < tsarbomba> oh god outlook.com "focused" mailbox 17:18 < tsarbomba> seems like all it does is 'focus' on the wrong shit 17:18 < vinrock> how about clutter on o365 17:18 < vinrock> man 17:18 < tsarbomba> is that a default setting in 365? 17:18 < vinrock> yeah 17:18 < Heresiarch> JollyRgrs: IMO, going to a meeting on a PTO'd say is more in the line of "bad thing"... 17:18 < vinrock> one day, blammo, clutter folder shows up and i have a brazillion users feeaking out why their shit is disappearing into it 17:18 < Heresiarch> *day 17:18 < tsarbomba> STAHP TRYING TO REINVENT EMAIL, GUYS 17:19 < tsarbomba> i think google realized that going any further than the tabbed inbox would be a Bad Fucking Idea 17:19 <@JollyRgrs> Heresiarch: nah, I had really planned to work half a day or just WFH 17:19 <@JollyRgrs> i just felt really bleh and decided to take more of it off than on 17:19 <@JollyRgrs> so not 8 hrs PTO 17:20 <@JollyRgrs> tsarbomba: yeah, i like Inbox, but only for personal emails, not for work 17:20 <@JollyRgrs> though i REALLY REALLY wish there was a better way to snooze emails in Outlook than flagging them 17:20 < xtensive> folders man! lots and lots of folders 17:21 <@JollyRgrs> no way dude 17:21 <@JollyRgrs> folders are terrible 17:21 <@JollyRgrs> who manages the folders? 17:22 <@JollyRgrs> i onyl make folders for filtered stuff 17:22 <@JollyRgrs> i have this email about O365 and ADFS settings... does it go in O365 folder or ADFS folder? 17:22 < Heresiarch> o365. 17:23 <@JollyRgrs> but it also deals with ADFS 17:23 < xtensive> I dunno, if an email requires me to do something actionable it turns into a ticket, or a task 17:23 <@JollyRgrs> xtensive: my point is... this is why i don't do email folders 17:23 < Heresiarch> it does. But SSO (ADFS) is a means, not an end. If you look for the thread in a year or so, you won't be looking for ADFS per se. 17:23 < xtensive> messing around with planner but not sure I like the historical aspect 17:23 < brianx> both. put it in o365 and link to adfs 17:24 < mal_will> I can't do folders 17:24 <@JollyRgrs> "hey, could you look real quick and see what all changes we've made to ADFS this year so far?" 17:24 <@JollyRgrs> brianx: outlook has a symlink option? 17:24 < tsarbomba> folders+filters for the automated stuff. work out of inbox for the real emails, then archive in a folder. 17:24 < JFDkthx> fack 17:24 < tsarbomba> i prefer to use my inbox as a true "in box" 17:24 < JFDkthx> is it friday? 17:24 < brianx> pretty sure it does 17:24 * xtensive pulls open HD reports, searches for ADFS 17:24 <@JollyRgrs> tsarbomba: i got bronchitis.... i ain't got time for that 17:24 < tsarbomba> jfdkthx i've proposed a vote to skip thursday altogether but it was defeated in committee 17:25 < tsarbomba> jollyrgrs sorry to hear that 17:25 < JFDkthx> rip 17:25 < JFDkthx> poor little bill 17:25 <@JollyRgrs> how will i fit in reading IRC? 17:25 < tsarbomba> good point. filter to delete all email upon receipt 17:25 <@JollyRgrs> My Ambitionz Az A Sysadmin 17:26 < tsarbomba> ugh i just had a flashback to a situation where a ceo/owner (back when i was in #mspland) used the Deleted Items folder of his outlook client to archive his email 17:26 < tsarbomba> and sure enough one of the helldesk reps did something which caused the deleted items folder to be emptied 17:26 < tsarbomba> cue mass chaos and 3 days of on-site visits 17:26 < estranger> tsarbomba, ive seen more than one person use Trash as a method of storage 17:26 <@JollyRgrs> tsarbomba: i have to explain that, at some point, at every job i'm at 17:26 < estranger> "WHERED MY STUFF GO" 17:27 <@JollyRgrs> "we can't just willy nilly empty recycle bins and deleted items because people file their stuff in it" 17:27 < tsarbomba> yeah i had a nice sit-down with the rep 17:27 < Heresiarch> ... 17:27 < estranger> lol 17:27 < Heresiarch> "Do you give that same speech to the cleaning crew?" 17:27 < tsarbomba> but there's blame on all sides there. even risking the use of a folder with a built in 'empty trash' feature for permanent storage is Fucking Dumb 17:27 <@JollyRgrs> tsarbomba: i agree, but you tell that to the Cxx 17:28 < tsarbomba> but this particular guy had some sort of weird aspie aversion towards using other folders for storage 17:28 < tsarbomba> if they weren't in his deleted items, he didn't believe they'd stick around 17:28 < estranger> someone iron my shirt for me 17:28 * estranger snaps his fingers 17:28 < tsarbomba> oh yeah i wasn't gonna have that convo with the owner :D 17:28 <@JollyRgrs> "yes, we all agree it is dumb, yes, we know some people do it, yes we need to be cautious because of dumb people" 17:28 <@JollyRgrs> that's life 17:29 < tsarbomba> ayup 17:29 <@JollyRgrs> i drive safe, but i have to be cautious of the idiots that think that highways are racetracks 17:29 < tsarbomba> it's a rare helldesk guy who is agile enough on his feet to note that situation and avoid doing something boneheaded 17:29 <@JollyRgrs> tsarbomba: because those are promoted within some amount of time 17:29 <@JollyRgrs> depending on how astute of an observer the company is 17:29 < tsarbomba> yup 17:30 < brianx> JollyRgrs: it's control-drag to put the message in a second folder. not 100% sure if that makes a link or a copy. not sure if there is even a difference. 17:30 < tsarbomba> this stan lee "elder abuse" thing is weird. is lee pissed off because some people think he might be susceptible to it at 92 or whatever 17:30 < tsarbomba> or is he just flush with money and doesn't think anyone should believe rich people can be abused too 17:30 <@JollyRgrs> Ctrl+drag is a [+] sign 17:30 <@JollyRgrs> that's copy 17:30 < JFDkthx> tsarbomba: wasnt that the concern 17:31 < JFDkthx> is that his family secreted him away 17:31 <@JollyRgrs> just with files... if you shift or alt drag (alt i think?) it does shortcut 17:31 <@JollyRgrs> one is copy, one is move, and one is shortcut 17:31 < The_Dv8or> sup 17:31 < tsarbomba> that was the story. but today there's news that he's upset about the reporting and that it never happened. almost haughty, like "i'm stan lee, how could that happen to me?" 17:32 < xtensive> oh man we have several C-levels that use their deleted items to archive stuff it is so frustrating 17:33 < JFDkthx> xtensive: permadelete it 17:33 < JFDkthx> that will show them 17:33 < tsarbomba> i'd just expect someone in a position of responsibility with a company to be good enough at reading and deduction to realize "deleted items" is probably not a great place to put items you expressly do NOT want deleted. 17:33 < tsarbomba> but my professional experiences tells me the opposite 17:33 < tsarbomba> -s 17:34 <@JollyRgrs> tsarbomba: that's why we're the experts 17:34 < tsarbomba> indeed 17:34 < xtensive> ya except C-level JFDkthx light as well ruin my career 17:34 <@JollyRgrs> the C levels (older ones) are used to their secretaries organizing the files 17:34 < xtensive> and more than one 17:34 < tsarbomba> ah, true 17:34 <@JollyRgrs> they were their cortana/siri 17:34 < tsarbomba> some are probably still of the belief that this newfangled computer thing is just a fad 17:34 <@Code_Man65> Set the gpo option to empty deleted items on exit, problem solved 17:34 <@JollyRgrs> now they may still file the paperwork, but the C level has to deal with email 17:34 < tsarbomba> "internet? pfft. it'll be gone in a few years." 17:35 <@JollyRgrs> tsarbomba: just a fad 17:35 < xtensive> "back in the 80's" we did blah blah 17:35 <@JollyRgrs> that's why my mother in law didn't get AOL stock at the start 17:35 <@JollyRgrs> internet is just a fad 17:35 <@JollyRgrs> lol 17:35 < tsarbomba> it'll never stick around! 17:35 < br14> It is 2018, we only have 2 typewritters left. 17:35 <+AnonymooseReddtr> d'oh 17:36 <@JollyRgrs> br14: you ONLY have 2? 17:36 < shoh> Jeez you guys are nerds 17:36 <+AnonymooseReddtr> ... 17:36 <+AnonymooseReddtr> shoh yourself the door 17:36 <@JollyRgrs> you mean you ACTUALLY HAVE 2 17:36 < br14> JollyRgrs: when I started here it was closer to 10. 17:36 < br14> (2013) 17:36 <@JollyRgrs> AnonymooseReddtr: be careful, saying shoh 3 times will bring him back 17:36 < syere> Up until last year, one of our offices still had five in use. 17:36 <+AnonymooseReddtr> JollyRgrs...shoh him the door :D 17:36 < tsarbomba> i remember getting a requisition for a typewriter when i was managing a larger account for my last msp. they were positioned with us that we did every hardware buy. somehow an electric typewriter fell under this purview. 17:36 <@JollyRgrs> syere: br14 are you two both in legal/law offices? 17:36 < tsarbomba> it took the sales guy two weeks just to find one through our approved vendors 17:36 <+AnonymooseReddtr> hehe tsarbomba yea 17:37 <+AnonymooseReddtr> we had one too 17:37 <+AnonymooseReddtr> at old job 17:37 < br14> In 2019 I expect to be rid of them. 17:37 < syere> JollyRgrs: I was IT at a magazine place 17:37 < br14> JollyRgrs: higher education! 17:37 <@JollyRgrs> ah, both of those make sense 17:37 <@JollyRgrs> /s 17:37 < tsarbomba> jeez. that'd be the last place i'd expect 17:37 <@JollyRgrs> tsarbomba: oh, you'd be surprised 17:37 < xtensive> those old ball typewriters were like freakin' witchcraft watching that ball spin around 17:38 < br14> Noone uses them, they are there for 'when the internet fails' 17:38 <@JollyRgrs> magazine... it is just bc/ they are used to typewriter... old school or "it's my muse" 17:38 < technonerd> Type writer up my resume or. Just use comic sans 17:38 < tsarbomba> academics are usually not too averse to embracing technology. though i imagine there's some tenured professor who rides or dies in analog 17:38 < tsarbomba> yeah that i get 17:38 <@JollyRgrs> higher ed... you know most of those ppl are dumber than dirt when it comes to tech 17:38 < syere> Specifically it was the article writers. I kid you not. They would type it up, try to FAX it to someone, who would then have to type it in word, fix errors and spelling, email it back, to which it would be printed and marked with a pin, RE-TYPED AND FAXED, and so on 17:38 < xtensive> also hipsters trying to bring them back 17:38 <@JollyRgrs> technonerd: we have someone from our off-shore team that uses comic sans for his email font 17:39 <+AnonymooseReddtr> JollyRgrs i'm switching to comic sans today 17:39 < br14> This guy is *really* old school. It doesn't matter to him that none of his staff know how to use it, damnit he is going to keep it until he retires! 17:39 <@JollyRgrs> I really want to say something, but he's the mgr of his dept and I don't feel like bothering the mgr's mgr about it 17:39 < tsarbomba> i showed the typewriter-buyer how to use form-filling software and their workgroup printer shortly before i left #mspland altogether. i'll bet he hasn't used that typewriter since 17:39 < xtensive> also change the color to magenta AnonymooseReddtr 17:39 <@JollyRgrs> AnonymooseReddtr: maybe that'll be a new passive-aggressive approach 17:39 < xtensive> they seem to go hand in hand 17:39 <@JollyRgrs> send all "hate" mail via comic sans 17:39 < tsarbomba> i've seen an IT policy document before that mandated the use of comic sans in all email communications 17:39 < technonerd> Just watch / read naked lunch and you'll never want to see a type writer again 17:40 < tsarbomba> i asked the contact there if it was possibly an error. he laughed and said "nope, everybody asks that" 17:40 < syere> oddly enough, giving people mechanical keyboards really helped a few of them transition out of typewriter use 17:41 < tsarbomba> yeah the clicky appeals to people who spent years on typewriters 17:41 < tsarbomba> people who came up on like chiclet keyboards don't seem to like th added effort and key travel 17:41 < br14> I'm not old enough to have handeled any real transitions from typewriters. I just steal them from desks when people take time off. 17:41 <@JollyRgrs> tsarbomba: whoever mandated that = epic troll 17:41 < xtensive> or the old IBM keyboards 17:42 < tsarbomba> i think it was supposed to match promotional documentation from Fucking Forever Ago, probably back when comic sans wasn't universally considered an idiot font 17:42 < tsarbomba> maybe some guy whipped up pamphlets in comic sans in 1996 17:42 <@JollyRgrs> tsarbomba: back when it meant "i updated to Windows 95" (or whenever it was introduced) 17:42 < tsarbomba> and they still had boxes in the cellar 17:42 < ihre> "A point-and-click matrix-based firewall" what the fuck does that even mean 17:43 <@JollyRgrs> i should make a font called sans comic 17:43 < ihre> (umatrix description) 17:43 < Heresiarch> ihre: idiot-proofed zone-based? 17:44 < ihre> Heresiarch: i was hoping each 'threat' would show up in bullet time so you can then try to dodge it 17:44 < Gencade> is it friday? 17:44 < vinrock> man im getting hammered by fail2ban alerts from my web server 17:44 < Gencade> also .bofh 17:45 < Gencade> .bofh 17:45 <+layer-eight> Gencade, BOFH says: Your EMAIL is now being delivered by the USPS. 17:45 < vinrock> its like every single chinese citizen is bruteforcing my shit right now 17:45 < Heresiarch> ihre: ...whoa. 17:45 < Hatter> vinrock, you like fail2ban eh 17:46 < vinrock> eh i use it on everything, why not 17:46 < ihre> Heresiarch: i cant think of any other reason to call it a matrix-based fw :P 17:46 < Heresiarch> ihre: it sounds impressive to PHBs. 17:46 < tsarbomba> this is now the second company i've worked for in a row that mandates calibri 17:47 < Heresiarch> and now, lunching. 17:47 < Hempux> Hello 17:48 < vinrock> mandates calibri what 17:48 < vinrock> maybe some chucklefuck was using comic sans and they just wanted to be like "yo stop switching the goddamn fonts" 17:48 < tsarbomba> using calibri for email, documents, etc. 17:49 < vinrock> i use lucidia console for everything 17:49 < vinrock> so i look like a techno wizard 17:49 < vinrock> people see that font and they're like oh shit son this guy means business 17:49 < xtensive> Calibri is nice 17:50 < technonerd> Doesn't calibri make it hard to. See i and l 17:50 < vinrock> it's the default font in office 17:50 < technonerd> And o and 0 18:07 < ravioli> how bout them red sox 18:08 < The_Dv8or> fuck dat, how bout them METS!!!! 18:08 < vader-> how about them EAGLES!!! 18:08 < vader-> or PHILLIES 18:08 < vader-> or SIXERS 18:08 < The_Dv8or> how bout dem BROWNS!!!!!!! 18:08 < vader-> haha 18:08 < vader-> it's never about the Browns 18:08 < Hatter> what do you guys use to keep track of your licensing eh 18:08 < The_Dv8or> Imma take the Browns to the Super Bowl! 18:08 < ravioli> i've decided that my second favorite football team is the browns 18:09 < vader-> the Browns need to liquidate that team 18:09 < The_Dv8or> Hatter, do you have a primary VAR? 18:09 < ravioli> because it makes sense to have the factually best football team as my favorite and the factually worst football team as my second favorite. 18:09 < Hatter> well mostly 18:09 < The_Dv8or> Usually Ill have my VAR do license mgmt 18:09 < The_Dv8or> CDW is pretty good 18:09 < The_Dv8or> back when I worked iwth them anyway 18:10 < felda> Oooh damn Billy Mitchell has all records removed. Got dunked 18:10 < felda> https://www.twingalaxies.com/feed_details.php/1047/billy-mitchells-donkey-kong-and-all-other-records-removed/4 18:11 < The_Dv8or> got an hour til my interview. Better figure out this NSX shit pretty quick 18:11 < Hatter> that's pretty funny felda 18:11 < Hatter> may be time to rewatch King of Kong 18:11 < tsarbomba> how bout them phillies? 18:11 < Hatter> puts all that silly braggadocio in a new light 18:11 < The_Dv8or> one great thing about VMware, their free hands on labs are muy helpful 18:12 < E-werd> the Browns won a game or two this year, didn't they? 18:13 < E-werd> oh, nevermind, they didn't 18:13 < tsarbomba> no, actually, they went 0-16 18:13 < tsarbomba> they won a couple during preseason 18:13 < E-werd> well... how about them Penguins? 18:14 < tsarbomba> as long as they beat the flyers and crapitals we'll be fine 18:14 < E-werd> :) 18:14 < tsarbomba> that philly draw in the first round must have been a boom for pennsylvania 18:15 < E-werd> https://i.redd.it/3p3wfu4pjwq01.jpg 18:16 < E-werd> my dream for a VGK-PIT SCF is still alive 18:16 < sideup66> Pfsense 18:16 < sideup66> Pfsense 18:16 < sideup66> Pfsense 18:16 < sideup66> <3 18:16 < vader-> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/67xqMhyd/FB_IMG_1523507080041.jpg 18:17 < E-werd> wow 18:17 < tsarbomba> there's only one VGK matchup in the finals i wouldn't have to root for VGK over 18:17 < tsarbomba> and that's a unicorn 18:17 < tsarbomba> because the isles didn't make the playoffs this year 18:17 < tsarbomba> so if vegas makes the finals i'm all about them winning 18:17 < tsarbomba> they deserve it after having the best expansion season i've ever seen 18:17 < E-werd> it would be tough for me, but I'd have to stick to my guns on Pens 18:17 < E-werd> because hometeam 18:18 < tsarbomba> yeah you have to go for the home team. but vegas is a special case this year 18:18 < E-werd> nobody loses that series, tbh 18:18 < tsarbomba> and if they end up playing TB or boston i want ot see a sweep 18:18 < E-werd> you have the only 3-peat in the modern era, OR a fresh expansion team winning and Marc-Andre Fleury winning another cup 18:18 < tsarbomba> what's the 'modern era' to you 18:19 * tsarbomba taps temple, reminds everyone of '80-83 18:19 < technonerd> Hopes and dreams of wild getting out of first round is low 18:19 < E-werd> since about 90 or so 18:19 < tsarbomba> bah 18:19 < E-werd> last 30 years I'd say 18:19 < tsarbomba> ARBITRARY 18:19 < tsarbomba> :D 18:19 < E-werd> I'd really say since the dawn of butterfly goaltending 18:20 < E-werd> that's when shit started getting real with goaltending and defense, when goals started dropping 18:20 < tsarbomba> just say "last threepeat since the spoilers" 18:20 < Heresiarch> ..there's something hilarious about vegas having a hockey team. 18:20 < tsarbomba> so the modern era begins with patrick roy 18:20 < E-werd> well, Phoenix has been doing it long enough 18:20 < E-werd> Roy, Belfour 18:20 < tsarbomba> heresiarch, especially one of the best in the league 18:21 < derpingit> whadap dudes 18:21 < tsarbomba> before the draft i was like "nah man a vegas hockey team is gonna suck for a decade" 18:21 < tsarbomba> and then they essentially tore up the pacific 18:21 < Heresiarch> tsarbomba: that in itself isn't as surprising - hockey seems to be less...money-dependent relative to team standing. 18:21 < tsarbomba> it wasn't always that way. there was a serious salary problem in the 90s 18:22 < E-werd> ugh, Ed Belfour career retrospective done by Jeremy Roenick :( 18:22 < E-werd> wish he'd fuck up and get fired already 18:22 < JFDkthx> thats what i am saying 18:22 < JFDkthx> fuck that guy 18:23 < JFDkthx> tsarbomba: wasnt there also a strike like 10 years ago over salary 18:23 < JFDkthx> i remember a lot of games being cancelled 18:23 < tsarbomba> roenick is a guy i loved watching. on the ice. 18:23 < tsarbomba> now that he's an announcer i want him to shut up forever. 18:24 < tsarbomba> yeah there was a player's strike. for a while people were concerned the NHL and union would never find any common ground. 18:24 < tsarbomba> and the payroll was spiralling out of control. for a while it didn't look like there could even be an expansion. 18:24 < tsarbomba> hence why it took so long 18:24 < E-werd> Roenick was an asshole on the ice and he's an asshole off the ice 18:24 <@cryptic1> sportball? 18:24 < tsarbomba> assholes can be fun to watch on the ice. who didn't love tie domi. 18:24 < tsarbomba> besides the guys going up against him 18:24 < tsarbomba> sportpuck 18:24 < tsarbomba> no ball 18:25 < tsarbomba> but lots of balls 18:25 < E-werd> meh, ok 18:25 < shoh> fuck off E-werd 18:25 < E-werd> eat a dick shoh 18:25 < tsarbomba> e-werd, zdeno chara is allegedly an asshole but he was a marvel to watch on the blueline 18:25 < tsarbomba> he would destroy people with a totally legal hipcheck and the entire arena would gasp 18:26 < E-werd> zdeno chara is a mythical creature 18:26 < tsarbomba> there's a lab somewhere trying to recreate chara in a test tube 18:26 < E-werd> he's got too much leverage 18:26 < E-werd> he's what, like 6'10" 18:27 < E-werd> 6'9" apparently 18:27 < E-werd> slovakian nightmare 18:28 < tsarbomba> chris pronger was a badass too 18:28 < mal_will> out electronic medical record software person left her computer unlocked while in the bathroom and there was PII on it 18:28 < mal_will> and I told her, and she says, "you mean PHI" 18:28 < technonerd> I'd be scared of. Chara 18:28 < mal_will> and like, does anyone know what HIPAA is? 18:28 < tsarbomba> mal_will, even worse. she knows what she shouldn't be doing 18:28 < mal_will> Can anyone truly be HIPAA compliant 18:29 < technonerd> I'd be scared of booguard too but he ded :( 18:29 < mal_will> true tsarbomba 18:29 < Heresiarch> mal_will: technically, she's correct. PHI is covered, PII is a good idea to cover but you won't get fined for it. 18:29 < mal_will> It was D.O.B. and name 18:29 < mal_will> Is that just PII? 18:29 < Heresiarch> yup. 18:29 < mal_will> she was even wrong D: 18:29 < tsarbomba> i think if that information is collected within the context of divulging PHI it counts 18:30 < tsarbomba> but it's almost a judgment call 18:30 < mal_will> well she's always logged into the emr. 18:30 < tsarbomba> which means it's nearly impossible to fend off in an audit 18:30 < mal_will> it would be an easy exploit 18:30 < E-werd> now I'm thinking about Todd Bertuzzi 18:30 < tsarbomba> GPO all the things with a 1 minute screen lock on idle 18:30 < mal_will> seriously, HIPAA is vague trash 18:30 < Heresiarch> the flipside being, audits almost always pass. 18:30 < tsarbomba> bertuzzi had an interesting stretch with the isles 18:30 < mal_will> I'm in a SOC II audit rn 18:30 < mal_will> and a pen test next month 18:30 < tsarbomba> he was a bruiser at a time when we didn't really need another bruiser on offense 18:30 < mal_will> we fukd 18:31 < Heresiarch> oh, SOC2. "We're secure, pinky swear!" 18:31 < mal_will> our soc guys asked for a screenshot of my RSS feeds 18:31 < mal_will> they're uh. not the a team 18:32 < E-werd> i just think of the Steve Moore hit 18:34 < mal_will> Anyone here ever use alert logic for log management? 18:34 <+DrGibby|> I've gotten more sales emails from them in the last month than ever 18:35 < mal_will> Their graphs at first glace are useless but pretty 18:36 < mal_will> This dashboard seems like it's all trends, no actuall logs 18:36 < corn266> My boss wants to get DSS to approve angle grinders as a suitable way to disintegrate SSDs 18:36 < Heresiarch> most log agg solutions involve a lot of searching to get specific stuff. 18:37 < Heresiarch> (or creating reports) 18:37 < mal_will> Heresiarch: I click on things and it just makes the bar in the graph bigger, but doesn't pring me to a listing or detail view of "windows unsuccessful logins" 18:38 < mal_will> I only know the bar is about 2 cm high, and it's blue 18:38 < corn266> mal_will: I'm having that same issue using log360 18:38 < sideup66> Pfsense 18:38 < sideup66> Pfsense pfsense 18:38 < sideup66> cryptic1: it is time for 18:38 < sideup66> Felda.io 18:38 < sideup66> I am orang 18:38 < corn266> cryptic1: do not trust orang 18:38 < mal_will> I'm looking for a log management solution, and Rackspace was like "you have alert logic" 18:38 < tsarbomba> sideup has gone full monkey on us 18:38 < corn266> same here 18:39 < mal_will> so log360 is just pictures and no logs corn266 18:39 < corn266> mal_will: i haven't seen many pictures, but it's either just windows logs shown in disorienting ways or bar charts with no useful data 18:40 < SpeakerToMeat> Anybody here an ifttt hotshot? 18:40 <@cryptic1> please visit our sponsor at http://felda.io 18:40 <@cryptic1> please visit our sponsor at http://felda.io 18:40 <@cryptic1> please visit our sponsor at http://felda.io 18:40 <@cryptic1> please visit our sponsor at http://felda.io 18:40 <@cryptic1> please visit our sponsor at http://felda.io 18:40 < tsarbomba> don't forget to buy a lootcrate! 18:40 < gnupluslinux> cryptic1, back to work 18:40 < SpeakerToMeat> cryptic1: Dude this is historical, I had to screenshot this shit 18:40 <@cryptic1> D: 18:40 < gnupluslinux> damnn slackers in my IRCs 18:40 < mal_will> how much did is cost you if I can ask that corn266 ? 18:40 < Heresiarch> rekt 18:41 < corn266> mal_will: just 1 computer so the free version 18:41 < mal_will> ah 18:41 < sideup66> cryptic1: put that in subject 18:41 < corn266> we can't have the logs move between systems due to security reason, so it's nice to have the web host on localhost 18:41 < mal_will> Get what you pay for. come back when you have a 50k budget and a new headcount 18:41 <+DrGibby|> WHERE DO I BUY A LOOTCRATE?!?!?! 18:41 < corn266> felda.io is cancer 18:41 <+DrGibby|> I NEEEEEEED ONE 18:42 <+DrGibby|> corn266: your face is cancer 18:42 < corn266> mal_will: come at me bruh I'm sys admin, network admin, security officer, and code monkey 18:42 < SpeakerToMeat> corn266: felda.io is love 18:42 < mal_will> I'm inf and sec admin, like wut 18:42 < mal_will> brb gotta go install a dymo label maker 18:43 < corn266> glhf 18:43 < jaelae> new password requirements at work for AD 18:43 < jaelae> no more dictionary words 18:43 < jaelae> :| 18:44 <+DrGibby|> long keyboard walk, jaelae 18:44 < corn266> n0m0r3d1ct10n@ryW0rd$ 18:44 < SpeakerToMeat> Damn, where's felda when you need him? 18:44 <@Code_Man65> jaelae: So your infosec dept is ignoring the NIST rules? 18:44 < SpeakerToMeat> I have a perfect sogn for his page, he might love to use it in the future 18:44 <+DrGibby|> SpeakerToMeat: link pls 18:44 < SpeakerToMeat> DrGibby|: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am1_JLFDFMw 18:44 <+layer-eight> YouTube Fail - Titanic en flauta | Titanic flute fail by 2012-09-21T22:36:32.000Z (duration: 2:53) on Sat Sep 22 05:36:32 UTC 2012, 2012-09-21T22:36:32.000Z views 18:45 <+DrGibby|> I might use it on the r-s discord 18:45 < corn266> NIST doesn't prevent dictionary words though? 18:45 <@Code_Man65> No it doesn't corn266, https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2016/08/18/nists-new-password-rules-what-you-need-to-know/ 18:45 <+DrGibby|> thats not a flute, thats a recorder 18:45 <+DrGibby|> and there is an entire subset of shitty music with bad recorders 18:45 < SpeakerToMeat> that's not a recorder, that's an instrument form hell 18:46 < jaelae> i used to use a long string of words with some additional numbers/characters 18:46 < SpeakerToMeat> DrGibby|: Have you seen shred videos? and musicless videos? 18:46 <+DrGibby|> SpeakerToMeat: that is clearly a recorder 18:46 < SpeakerToMeat> DrGibby|: So, it's an insturment from hell 18:46 <+DrGibby|> yes 18:46 <+DrGibby|> clearluy 18:46 < SpeakerToMeat> DrGibby|: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHkhIjG0DKc 18:46 <+layer-eight> YouTube Dancing in the Street // Silent Music Video by 2016-01-13T06:42:10.000Z (duration: 3:01) on Wed Jan 13 13:42:10 UTC 2016, 2016-01-13T06:42:10.000Z views 18:47 <+DrGibby|> yeah 18:47 < AnimalFarmPig> discord is preferred by millennials 18:47 < SpeakerToMeat> DrGibby|: And you know the shred subgenre? 18:47 <+DrGibby|> yes, AnimalFarmPig, very good 18:47 <+DrGibby|> SpeakerToMeat: yes 18:48 < SpeakerToMeat> good 18:50 < tsarbomba> anyone who plays a recorder should be required by law to fight to the death against zamfir, master of the pan flute 18:52 < Heresiarch> s/zamfir/Ian Anderson/ 18:52 <+layer-eight> tsarbomba meant: "anyone who plays a recorder should be required by law to fight to the death against Ian Anderson, master of the pan flute" 18:53 < corn266> Code_Man65: yea that's why I said it doesn't 18:54 < corn266> oh god "Yea my password is just the poop emoji 12 times" 18:54 < tsarbomba> "IT'S NOT POOP IT'S CHOCOLATE ICE CREAM" 18:54 < SynMonger> with a face... and flies buzzing around it 18:54 < tsarbomba> also, the eggplant was never intended to look like a dong 18:55 < tsarbomba> those aren't flies, synmonger. they're FLAVR-WAVES 18:55 < SynMonger> and downvotes were never meant to be "I disagree" 18:55 < corn266> .ty His Purple Majesty Horse the Band 18:55 < gnupluslinux> killdash9, i hate you 18:55 < corn266> fk 18:55 < SynMonger> the users really get the final say on how something is used 18:55 < gnupluslinux> i started using -plunt instead of my old -tulpn 18:55 < technonerd> They eat the poo poo like it's ice cream 18:55 < tsarbomba> eata da poopoo 18:55 < ihre> gnupluslinux: -apeen 18:55 < Heresiarch> gnupluslinux: -tuple ? 18:56 < AnimalFarmPig> -faplord 18:56 < Heresiarch> (or tuplen) 18:56 < corn266> .yt His Purple Majesty Horse the Band 18:56 <+layer-eight> YouTube HORSE the band - His Purple Majesty - https://youtu.be/7wuQom4BVoc 18:56 < gnupluslinux> -e is 2much4me 18:56 < gnupluslinux> netstat -tulpn 18:58 < AnimalFarmPig> netstat -Faplord 18:58 <@cryptic1> CR failed time to roll everthing back 18:59 <@cryptic1> roll everything back to win98se 18:59 * cryptic1 starts the roll back process 18:59 <@cryptic1> I will document it all at http://felda.io 18:59 <@cryptic1> see the latest blog post! 19:00 < SynMonger> I welcome our new overlord, Microsoft and IE 4.0 19:00 < AnimalFarmPig> https://www.windows93.net 19:00 < chainz> damn that music is loud 19:00 < SynMonger> don't forget to turn in your smartphones and tablets at the nearest reclaimation center 19:01 < xtensive> That is so awesome AnimalFarmPig 19:01 < corn266> "cryptic1 invented dns" 19:02 < xtensive> even has virtualgirl installed! 19:03 <@cryptic1> corn266hole stop spreading those false rumors 19:03 < AnimalFarmPig> xtensive: try browsing the internet using cat explorer 19:03 <@JollyRgrs> s/hole/holio 19:03 <+layer-eight> cryptic1 meant: "corn266holio stop spreading those false rumors" 19:04 < xtensive> The cat explorer isn't working for me AnimalFarmPig :D 19:04 < SpeakerToMeat> It all started with My heart will go on, then it went to abba mamma mia, it degenerated to olivia newton john physical and now I'm listening to the xanadu soundtrack, I know what comes next is pure undiluted ELO 19:05 < xtensive> solitaire is though! 19:05 < AnimalFarmPig> xtensive: I think it gets blocked by a popup blocker by default 19:05 < Heresiarch> SpeakerToMeat: ...you were pretty much gone from the beginning, there. 19:05 < AnimalFarmPig> Opera just told me "blocked content", and I unblocked it 19:05 < SynMonger> someone spent way too much time on this site 19:06 < JFDkthx> SynMonger: on felda.io? 19:06 < JFDkthx> what do you think we pay him for 19:06 < SynMonger> that, too 19:06 < JFDkthx> oh 19:06 < SpeakerToMeat> AnimalFarmPig: Good to know I'm not the only one trying to use opera 19:06 < AnimalFarmPig> SpeakerToMeat: it's the safe, fast, browser, with built-in VPN and adblocking! 19:08 < xtensive> yep that did it AnimalFarmPig 19:08 < xtensive> getting my midi on now 19:09 < JFDkthx> FUCKING AS SOON AS I MESSAGED A INFRASTRUCTURE GUY HE SETS HIS STATUS TO AWAY 19:09 < JFDkthx> motherfucker 19:09 <+TuxedoJack> Fucking Vipre admins 19:09 < kepler> classic 19:09 <+TuxedoJack> Don't set exceptions for the keyloggers we use 19:09 <+TuxedoJack> Dipshits 19:09 < Holo> https://arxius.io/v/fccd8f4e 19:10 < Holo> JFDkthx: this site... 19:10 < SpeakerToMeat> AnimalFarmPig: Opera is chinese, Telegram is russian, I don't trust them 19:10 < JFDkthx> Holo: was dat 19:11 <@cryptic1> oops 19:11 < Holo> Wow 19:11 <@Code_Man65> Must have been the Russian Chinese hackers 19:11 * cryptic1 smirks 19:11 < Holo> At least voice me when you do that cryptic1 19:11 < voidstar> lol 19:11 < Holo> Lol 19:11 <@cryptic1> clearly the hacker 4chin 19:11 <@Code_Man65> That was the Chinese Russian hackers 19:11 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, remember when it leaked that the Russian government is spying on and tapping the communications of literally everyone? 19:11 <@cryptic1> son of 4chan 19:12 < JFDkthx> his brother 4chun 19:12 < JFDkthx> wealthy^ 19:13 < asimon> s/Russian/United States 19:13 <+layer-eight> AnimalFarmPig meant: "yeah, remember when it leaked that the United States government is spying on and tapping the communications of literally everyone?" 19:13 < AnimalFarmPig> oh, man, a modern version of 4chan called 4chun? One could make a fortune. 19:13 < SpeakerToMeat> cryptic1: We have a couple 4chins here 19:13 < derpingit> 4chin * 19:14 < derpingit> lol 19:15 < SpeakerToMeat> I'm up to 2 chins already 19:15 < AnimalFarmPig> asimon: I don't remember that. US government spying on literally everyone? I think that would be illegal. US is a nation of laws. If it ever came out that the US government was spying on literally everyone, people would go to jail. There might even be a revolution! Nobody would trust democrats or republicans ever again. 19:15 < Bru-> morn 19:15 < tsarbomba> s/democrats or republicans/apple or google 19:15 <+layer-eight> AnimalFarmPig meant: "asimon: I don't remember that. US government spying on literally everyone? I think that would be illegal. US is a nation of laws. If it ever came out that the US government was spying on literally everyone, people would go to jail. There might even be a revolution! Nobody would trust apple or google ever again." 19:16 < SpeakerToMeat> AnimalFarmPig: That's what worries me 19:16 < SpeakerToMeat> AnimalFarmPig: In the us it leaked. And most people are still alive even 19:16 < AnimalFarmPig> Apple and Google are American companies! They would never spy on you like those Russian or Chinese companies! 19:17 < tsarbomba> i like how zuckerberg's main argument was "so what? people don't care about privacy as long as they can like their friends' daily meal photographs" 19:17 < Heresiarch> for better or worse, he's right. 19:17 < asimon> tsarbomba: I mean he has a point 19:17 < tsarbomba> scary stuff, right? 19:18 < tsarbomba> beat me, whip me, steal my identity. but don't you DARE take away my ability to post whatever facile bullshit pops into my mind, filter-free 19:18 <@JollyRgrs> tsarbomba: nah, that's instagram (also FB, i know) 19:18 < AnimalFarmPig> how can someone steal your identity? Do you mean defraud financial companies by impersonating you? 19:18 < Bru-> I DEMAND AN AUDIENCE 19:18 < felda> pls ban anyone not using pfsense 19:19 <@JollyRgrs> FB, he sould said "they don't care so long as they have a platform to get into arguments with friends and family about the stupid decisions you senators make!" 19:19 < tsarbomba> felda, do you have a threshold for the lowest allowable pfsense version 19:19 <@JollyRgrs> n-1 19:19 < felda> anything less than v2.3 is blasphemy 19:19 < tsarbomba> whew. glad i finished 2.4.3 upgrades around the horn this week 19:19 < AnimalFarmPig> is it worth going from 2.3 to 2.4? 19:19 < tsarbomba> tons of unfixed bugs in 2.3.x 19:20 < felda> yeah 19:20 < tsarbomba> 2.4 has been rock solid in the week or so since our primary office firewall was upgraded 19:20 < AnimalFarmPig> none that I've run into 19:20 < Heresiarch> AnimalFarmPig: yeah, it kinda is. Don't be surprised if you have to manually boot the box, though. 19:20 < felda> the jump from 2.4.2 to 2.4.3 isn't that great tho 19:20 < Heresiarch> (after upgrade) 19:20 < felda> I'm still on 2.4.2 19:20 < AnimalFarmPig> Heresiarch: can do 19:20 < tsarbomba> it's a more striking jump when you go from 2.1 to 2.4 :D 19:20 < AnimalFarmPig> I wonder if they posted a change log... 19:21 < AnimalFarmPig> yes https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/2.4_New_Features_and_Changes 19:21 < AnimalFarmPig> "32-bit support has been deprecated and removed -- There are no images available for 32-bit (x86/i386) Intel architecture systems" :O ahhhhhhhhhhh 19:22 < felda> suck my extra 32bits of nuts 19:22 < technickel> suck my fedora 19:22 < felda> M'LADY 19:22 < technickelback> look at this graaaph 19:22 < technickel> damn why didnt I think of that.. 19:22 <@JollyRgrs> lol 19:22 < technickel> look at this GRAPH(ana) 19:23 <@JollyRgrs> .yt why does everyone hate nickelback 19:23 <+layer-eight> YouTube How Nickelback Became The Most Hated Band In History - https://youtu.be/wsj9uRojIfw 19:24 <@JollyRgrs> i just saw a meme... 19:24 <@JollyRgrs> said chelsea clinton so ugly... a BJ from her counts as anal 19:24 <@JollyRgrs> damn... that's just cold 19:24 < Heresiarch> s/cold/old/ 19:24 <+layer-eight> JollyRgrs meant: "damn... that's just old" 19:25 <@JollyRgrs> old pizza becomes cold 19:25 < DomLS3> god damnit 19:25 < DomLS3> lost my +v again 19:25 < DomLS3> JollyRgrs: <3 19:25 <@JollyRgrs> DomLS3 is a "connected again" v'gin 19:25 < Heresiarch> sure. But when it's 20+, it's more than cold. 19:25 < DomLS3> JollyRgrs sets mode +v DomLS3 19:26 < tsarbomba> without a +v you're going to miss out on all the secret society planning meetings and neckbeard grooming parties 19:26 < DomLS3> -v if for plebs who think aluminum is superior to carbon fiber 19:26 < xtensive> they pick the cheeto crumbs out of each others beards 19:27 < tsarbomba> domls3 is still butthurt that i know more about aerospace engineering than he ever will :D 19:27 < tsarbomba> so he self-trolls on a daily basis 19:27 < felda> cryptic1 I heard you eat the banana and the peel all in one 19:27 < tsarbomba> this is delightful to me 19:27 <@JollyRgrs> DomLS3: the aliens can scan through carbon fiber 19:27 < DomLS3> JollyRgrs: the aliens can scan through anything 19:27 < tsarbomba> jollyrgrs, want a good laugh? ask him about nanotubes :D 19:27 < DomLS3> tin foil hats are a myth 19:28 < DomLS3> they will not protect you 19:28 <@JollyRgrs> will do 19:28 <@JollyRgrs> will too 19:28 <@JollyRgrs> keeps all the normies from bothering me 19:28 < tsarbomba> i think mel gibson proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the tinfoil headgear is the first and best line of defense against the illuminati mind-rays 19:28 < JFDkthx> holy fuck 19:28 < JFDkthx> finally 19:29 < JFDkthx> tsarbomba: first off it was thomas ebison 19:29 <@JollyRgrs> JFDkthx: someone finally agrees with you? ( tsarbomba ) 19:29 < DomLS3> tsarbomba: That wasn’t Mel Gibson. That was Jaquin Pheonix 19:29 < DomLS3> or however you spell that fucked up name 19:29 < JFDkthx> pheonix is right 19:29 < tsarbomba> what was the other one 19:29 < tsarbomba> oh, michael keaton, white noise 19:29 <@JollyRgrs> he doesn't spell it phoenix? 19:29 < JFDkthx> no 19:29 <@JollyRgrs> idiot 19:29 <@JollyRgrs> he's a witch 19:29 < JFDkthx> thats fo nix 19:29 <@JollyRgrs> burn him 19:29 < tsarbomba> joaquim. pronounced "wa-keem" 19:29 < DomLS3> actually it is 19:29 < tsarbomba> because nothing matters 19:29 < DomLS3> joaquin phoenix 19:29 < DomLS3> correct spelling ^ 19:30 < tsarbomba> or that 19:30 < tsarbomba> and his sister's name? "maggie". 19:30 < xtensive> his sister was river 19:30 < DomLS3> river indeed 19:30 < tsarbomba> oh no his sister has a hippie name 19:30 < tsarbomba> but like 19:30 < tsarbomba> a really hippie name 19:30 * tsarbomba googles 19:31 < tsarbomba> "liberty" 19:31 < tsarbomba> other sisters summer and rain 19:31 < DomLS3> almost as bad as “North West” 19:31 < gnupluslinux> whats 1gbps to megabytes? 120 ish? 19:31 < xtensive> joaquin really got the shaft, river, summer, rain and then that 19:32 < tsarbomba> 125 without overhead 19:32 < DomLS3> gnupluslinux: 19:32 < gnupluslinux> yeah 19:32 < DomLS3> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gbps+to+mbps 19:32 < gnupluslinux> megabits != megabytes 19:32 < tsarbomba> i hate that i live in a top ten metroplex and we can't even get gigabit 19:33 < DomLS3> my gigabit cost $75 a month 19:33 < DomLS3> cheaper than what I was paying comcast for 75 down lol 19:33 < The_Dv8or> bak 19:33 < vinrock> don't you live in timbuktu 19:33 < The_Dv8or> who else’s Xfinity shit the bed 19:33 < sideup66> DomLS3: who's your isp 19:33 < tsarbomba> yeah it seems like places where the big boys are entrenched with their copper bullshit the higher speeds are just..nonexistent 19:33 < sideup66> Verizon? 19:33 < DomLS3> sideup66: AT&T 19:33 < vinrock> lol gigabit from verizon for that cheap 19:33 < gnupluslinux> we're having some isp shit issues here dv8 19:34 < sideup66> Damn gigabit one? 19:34 < DomLS3> yeah 19:34 < vinrock> at&t has that special pricing because they wanted to fuck google fiber 19:34 < sideup66> Fiber? 19:34 < The_Dv8or> seems like XF had scattered issues across the country just meow 19:34 < sideup66> Holy shit 19:34 < DomLS3> Yep 19:34 < DomLS3> i get roughly 900 down and 900 up at my house lmao 19:34 < tsarbomba> we had a fuckton of comcast problems for a while but there hasn't been much of a problem since we forced them to rewire EVERYTHING from the pedestal to the premises 19:34 < sideup66> Omg 19:34 < sideup66> I'd love that 19:34 < The_Dv8or> shit, now I gotz no excuse to put off resume shit 19:34 < vinrock> I think it's like $500/mo here for Fios gigabit 19:34 < tsarbomba> and i haven't had an interruption in my irc or streaming audio so i suspect it was a regional issue 19:35 < tsarbomba> that's just criminal, vinrock 19:35 < DomLS3> vinrock: FIOS has been around for a long time. Way over expensive 19:35 < vinrock> shit, thats IF you can even get fios 19:35 < vinrock> theyre headquartered in nj right up the road from here, got a huge tax break from the state in agreement they would provide fth for the whole state 19:35 < vinrock> i think they did like 15% or some shit and just stopped 19:35 < vinrock> and now you cant get it any more unless the infrastructure is already in place 19:36 < tsarbomba> summer phoenix is basically river with boobs. and she's married to casey affleck. 19:36 < The_Dv8or> what telco hasnt totally fucked over the deployment promise? 19:36 < vinrock> I have it 5 poles from this office and even offering to pay they refused to run it here. instead i gotta do a microwave link to our diesel shop at the back of our property because IT was able to get fios from the street behind. 19:36 < vinrock> :| 19:36 < The_Dv8or> good boobs? I could use a spank 19:36 < Heresiarch> vinrock: because their board went chickenshit and canned the guy who wanted to continue the deployment. 19:36 < tsarbomba> telcos get money years in advance from the government. by the time the bill comes due, political turnover has made it a non-issue 19:36 < The_Dv8or> and my hooker dont get outta jail til Sunday 19:37 < tsarbomba> case in point: the FCC's on-again off-again love affair with funding or not funding broadband in the sticks 19:37 < The_Dv8or> satellite broadband just needs to get good 19:37 < vinrock> oh no its over 60 degrees 19:37 < vinrock> my beeers better not get skunked 19:38 < tsarbomba> there are some fundamental traits of satellite broadband which indicate that, without some pretty drastic advances in tech, they may never be able to get over the primary issues 19:38 < Heresiarch> The_Dv8or: can't beat physics, yo. 19:38 < tsarbomba> which are latency and atmospheric impedence of line of sight 19:38 < Heresiarch> ^ 19:38 < tsarbomba> heresiarch said it succinctly 19:38 < The_Dv8or> seems to work well for television 19:38 < voidstar> you're saying EM can only travel so fast? 19:38 < Heresiarch> television isn't latency-sensitive 19:39 < tsarbomba> the latency of television streams is almost irrelevant to content delivery 19:39 < tsarbomba> as long as it's not on the order of, say, 10 seconds, nobody ever notices 19:39 < Heresiarch> also, TV isn't a two-way communication. 19:39 < The_Dv8or> Ill admit I havent looked into it much 19:39 < asimon> voidstar: yeah about 3e8 m/s 19:39 < tsarbomba> right. it doesn't require acks to return to the satellite 19:40 < voidstar> let's bend the spacetime between the premises and the satellite, problem solved 19:40 < xtensive> you should be good to 68 or so vinrock 19:40 < tsarbomba> can we use the spheres from the movie contact? 19:40 < asimon> I bet if there was some serious development efforts that satellite 'net could be made good 19:40 < vinrock> hope so, anything over 60 i get worried 19:40 < xtensive> assuming ale not lager 19:40 < tsarbomba> asimon, if i ever find the time to go back to school for electrical engineering i'll make sure that happens :D 19:40 < vinrock> damnit 19:40 < vinrock> nah its yuengling 19:41 < Heresiarch> asimon: it might be livable for web browsing/streaming (with a shit load of caching/proxies), but it's always going to be a high latency connection. 19:41 < asimon> tsarbomba: Thank you for your service 19:41 <@JollyRgrs> tsarbomba: only issues i ever had with Comcast were physical wires in the house or by the pole 19:42 <@JollyRgrs> once those are fixed, ppl normally don't have issues (cept their wallet being empty) 19:42 <@JollyRgrs> but now i have $80/mo gigabit with ATT fiber... so i'm good 19:42 < tsarbomba> normally, yeah. i happened to live in a place where the pedestals were vandalized constantly 19:42 < asimon> $80 gigabit? 19:42 < asimon> fuck 19:42 < tsarbomba> but ultimately i fired comcast over their billing fuckery 19:42 < xtensive> we just voted on municipal broadband and it passed, can't wait 19:42 < asimon> I pay $60 for a tenth of that with wide variance 19:43 <@JollyRgrs> asimon: yeah, it is really nice, i can stream my plex to anywhere with 1gbps speeds 19:43 < tsarbomba> "you have 3 months to avoid charges for overages" "okay we lied you have 3 months where you will be charged for overages but if you call we will forgive he overage" "okay we lied again, that was only one month. you have to poay for overages this month" "okay we see you requested to add the unlimited data package onto your account last month but since it wasn't done you have to pay anyway" 19:44 < tsarbomba> basically every possible fuckup on their side was made and they just didn't care to budge on policy 19:44 < tsarbomba> the new customer service 19:44 <@JollyRgrs> tsarbomba: that sounds like comcast :( 19:44 < tsarbomba> yup. so i fired them 19:44 < DomLS3> comcast customer service is the worst 19:44 <@JollyRgrs> oh, i also got unlimited data on my connection 19:44 < F34RInc> comcast gave me the run around when I tried to move service from one house to another, had business service at the old house and they said it was avail at the new location 19:44 < tsarbomba> when i switched i made sure new provider had unlimited on the account right off the bat. cost me $10/month less than comcast would have, too 19:45 <+DrGibby|> we have $60 gigabit here :) 19:45 < tsarbomba> comcast disqualifies a fuckton of locations here after the fact 19:45 <+DrGibby|> pure fibre too 19:45 < F34RInc> no, no it wasnt and they tried to dick me with the rest of the contract. That didnt work I won 19:45 < tsarbomba> i'm pretty sure they're massively oversubscribed even after they reaped a bunch of marginal addresses last year 19:47 < corn266> Comcast "Multi-gig speeds are now available" also comcast "up to 350Mbps" 19:48 < Heresiarch> these aren't mutually exclusive. Seems like gig has only come in on cable with docsis 3.1. 19:49 < asimon> This extra caffeine shot in my coffee was a bad idea 19:49 < asimon> I can't focus on anything 19:49 < corn266> If you can't provide speeds up to and including 1Gbps then don't advertise gigabit internet 19:49 < Heresiarch> what if you can provide gigabit in some places, but not others? 19:50 < corn266> touche 19:50 < tsarbomba> something something best effort something something speeds vary based on line conditions 19:50 < Heresiarch> there's likely also some gear requirements involved at the headend - at the least, they'd need beefier line cards to support D3.1/gigabit 19:52 < corn266> So it's likely they only offer it to businesses, yea 19:52 < Heresiarch> nah. It is going to be limited in rollout, though. 19:53 < ihre> they can offer you up to 1gbps on ADSL2 as well, doesnt mean you'll receive it :3 19:53 < Heresiarch> if you're talking cablecos, the major differences between business vs consumer are non-technical (support structures, cost, SLAs, etc) until you get to the direct-connect/dedicated access space. 19:55 < shoh> fuuuuccckkkkkk 19:55 < shoh> yoooouuuuu 19:55 < shoh> JollyRgrs: 19:55 < shoh> corn266: 19:55 < shoh> they advertise "up to 1Gbps" 19:55 < shoh> Up to 19:55 < shoh> could be 50Mbit :-) 19:58 < corn266> shoh: that's just mean though 20:01 <@JollyRgrs> shoh: lol 20:01 <@JollyRgrs> i get 940Mbps pretty constant 20:01 <@JollyRgrs> so i'm happy 20:01 <@JollyRgrs> my only issue was getting my pfsense running on KVM to do more than a few hundred Mbps 20:01 <@JollyRgrs> once I got that fixed, I was good to go 20:02 <@JollyRgrs> support said anything less than 700, they will definitely investigate 20:02 < corn266> pfsense did or your internet co 20:02 < DeVito> fel da promised him support 20:03 <@JollyRgrs> corn266: pfsense had to get fixed... issue with networking sometimes on freebsd in VMs... especially with non-intel NICs 20:03 < F34RInc> check sum off loading 20:04 < f0fsf0fs> hi 20:04 < f0fsf0fs> can someone send halp 20:04 < gnupluslinux> pfsense has some issues with non intel nics 20:05 < gnupluslinux> driver issues with freebsd or something iirc 20:05 < gnupluslinux> f0fsf0fs, just ask 20:05 < gnupluslinux> and no 20:05 < gnupluslinux> i will send pizza tho 20:05 < f0fsf0fs> need help with my linux samba share 20:05 < f0fsf0fs> windows client wont connect 20:05 < ravioli> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/04/gmail-com-redesign-leaks-looks-pretty-incredible/ 20:05 < gnupluslinux> just use A C T I V E D I R E C T O R Y 20:05 <+giant_it_burrit> does the user have permissions 20:05 <+giant_it_burrit> can they ping it 20:05 < ravioli> f0fsf0fs: what do you mean "wont connect" 20:06 < corn266> the vaporwave cousin to regular active directory? 20:06 < gnupluslinux> ravioli, it looks exactly as it already does 20:06 < f0fsf0fs> so im able to ping the server just fine 20:06 <@JollyRgrs> F34RInc: yeah, i tried that stuff before... didn't work 20:06 <@JollyRgrs> ended up doing PCI passthrough and then using my intel NICs vs the broadcom on-boards 20:06 < ihre> check the smb logs on your server 20:06 < felda> :OOOOOOOO 20:06 < f0fsf0fs> but when i try to connect windows says invalid folder name when ik it is valid 20:06 < Nightcinder> man $2200 for a vizio TV 20:06 < Nightcinder> seems a bit much to me. 20:06 < felda> got that permission to replace all hard drives with Samsung EVO 850 500GB drives 20:06 <@JollyRgrs> Nightcinder: that's really vague 20:06 < felda> YIS YIS YIS YIS 20:06 < ravioli> f0fsf0fs: are you using \ or / 20:06 < gnupluslinux> f0fsf0fs, whats the string it's receiving. \ vs / 20:07 < Nightcinder> the new quantum tv 20:07 < ravioli> gnupluslinux++ 20:07 < felda> \o/ praise be 20:07 <+giant_it_burrit> f0fsf0fs: bad characters like spaces? 20:07 < Nightcinder> looks like 65" 20:07 <+giant_it_burrit> case sensitivity 20:07 < f0fsf0fs> \ and no spaces 20:07 <@JollyRgrs> Nightcinder: 22" TV ot 102" 4k OLED 240 refresh? 20:07 < xtensive> try / 20:07 < Nightcinder> JollyRgrs: https://www.vizio.com/p-series-quantum 20:07 <+giant_it_burrit> windows and linux use the slashes in diff wats... 20:08 < xtensive> smb://myshare/warez 20:08 < Nightcinder> 2000nit is nice 20:08 < Heresiarch> f0fsf0fs: what is showing up in your logs? Have you modified the config to provide debug information, or killed smbd and started it up in debug? 20:08 < Nightcinder> a little eye melting but nice 20:08 < F34RInc> @JollyRgrs, hm ive never had to mess with it, I use $30 dual port gigabit Intel nics and my connection is terrible 20:08 < f0fsf0fs> nothing unusual in logs 20:08 < f0fsf0fs> service starts 20:09 <@JollyRgrs> F34RInc: are you running it inside a KVM VM? 20:09 <+giant_it_burrit> user has perms? 20:09 <@JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: 70s has perms 20:09 < F34RInc> @JollyRgrs, no I have a dedicated mini ITX PC 20:09 <@JollyRgrs> yeah, dedi boxes aren't the same 20:09 <@JollyRgrs> it's an issue with freebsd and virtio stuff 20:10 < Heresiarch> f0fsf0fs: have you tried stopping the service, then running smbd in non-daemon/foreground mode? Have you tried accessing just the box (e.g. \\BOX) from the Windows client and seen what shares are available? 20:10 < F34RInc> thats right I think we talked about this before 20:10 < ihre> turn up debug logging 20:10 <@JollyRgrs> TURN DOWN FOR WHAT!?!?!? 20:10 < voidstar> turn down that racket and get off my lawn 20:11 < gnupluslinux> alright boys 20:11 < gnupluslinux> my users are horrific cord tanglers 20:11 < gnupluslinux> the cord detanglers we got them last like 2 weeks 20:11 < rpifan> we must remove the tyrany of the user 20:12 < gnupluslinux> anyone got any detanglers their users like 20:12 < f0fsf0fs> Heresiarch: im a complete networking noob idk what any of that means xD 20:12 < gnupluslinux> best i can tell they're all the same damnn thing 20:12 < corn266> gnupluslinux: scissors 20:12 < br14> wireless everything 20:12 < Heresiarch> f0fsf0fs: then you need to start reading man pages and figuring it out. Waving your arms and saying, "it's broken!" isn't going to get you anywhere. 20:12 < xtensive> detangler? what is this even? 20:13 < gnupluslinux> i fucking wish 20:13 < Heresiarch> gnupluslinux: https://www.amazon.com/VELCRO-Brand-Black-2-Inch-91140/dp/B001E1Y5O6/ 20:13 < gnupluslinux> Heresiarch, ITS BROKEN PLZ FIX 20:13 < xtensive> hang $thing upside down, let spin spin spin /detangled 20:13 < gnupluslinux> Heresiarch, i got plenty of those exact ones but not sure where you're going with that in terms of detangling 20:13 < Heresiarch> gnupluslinux: hard to get tangled if they're all tied/bundled. 20:14 < gnupluslinux> im not even sure how they manage to tangle these fucking things 20:14 < gnupluslinux> xtensive, nah man its likea fucking rats nest, just bundled up on itself 20:14 < corn266> Hire some interns to only detangle things 20:14 < xtensive> phone cords gnupluslinux ? 20:14 < gnupluslinux> yeah 20:15 < gnupluslinux> https://www.amazon.com/telephone-cord-detangler-Office-Products/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=n%3A1064954%2Ck%3Atelephone%20cord%20detangler these fucking things 20:15 < xtensive> then I think you gotta run your fingers through the entire length of the cord to re-establish the original sprial, and get nasty stuff all over your hands gnupluslinux I also vote for interns 20:15 < gnupluslinux> im guessing the pins get loose after while or something but 2 weeks is fucking ridiculous 20:16 < gnupluslinux> I N T E R N S the solution to all IT problems 20:16 < gnupluslinux> I N T E R N S and T I M E 20:17 < gnupluslinux> fucking 3cx and phone uis 20:17 < gnupluslinux> logins not working 20:17 < gnupluslinux> fuck phones 20:17 <+DrGibby|> about fucking time 20:18 <+DrGibby|> my amazon giftcard got here after a stupid connectwise demo 20:18 <@JollyRgrs> you know what I loved about Wyse? 20:18 <@JollyRgrs> twice I did a short web conf. with someone and got a $50 gift card 20:19 < xtensive> that's a pretty good deal 20:19 < deww> very wyse thing 20:19 < deww> sorry, that was bad. 20:20 < felda> JollyRgrs the academic challenge Wyse? 20:20 < felda> I got a little bit more from WYSE than JollyRgrs did. 20:20 < felda> I got a free ride to college from WYSE 20:20 < felda> :D 20:21 <@JollyRgrs> Dell Wyse 20:21 < felda> oh :( 20:21 < gnupluslinux> oooh look at this guy and his college education 20:21 < gnupluslinux> spit on the educated believer 20:21 < felda> not as cool 20:21 < gnupluslinux> phhtooh 20:21 < felda> it's only an associates degree >.> 20:21 < gnupluslinux> P H T O O H 20:22 < gnupluslinux> i actually got a free ride too tbh 20:22 <@JollyRgrs> felda: i think i got 100 or 150 my first time (testing out a new version of their device mgmt software), the other was just asking ?s about how we use it 20:22 < gnupluslinux> UC system guarantees you need based tuition 20:22 < felda> DAMN THIS KID DUMB HE REALLY NEED SCHOOLING GIVE HIM MONEY 20:23 < gnupluslinux> http://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/paying-for-uc/glossary/blue-and-gold/ 20:23 < gnupluslinux> depending how much your funder makes its either grants or loans 20:23 * gnupluslinux was poh so he got grants 20:24 < gnupluslinux> saved my ass and basically the only way i could afford uni 20:24 < felda> people trying to diminish my efforts by calling it a "junior degree" 20:25 < gnupluslinux> you gotta come up with other expenses but tuition and school fees were covered which was nice 20:25 < gnupluslinux> felda, cause its only an associates! look at my bachelor and masters peasant and weep 20:25 < xtensive> same same gnupluslinux Pell Grant for my poor ass 20:25 < felda> (ಥ﹏ಥ) 20:25 < gnupluslinux> its k bby i got my associates too somewhere lol 20:26 < gnupluslinux> turns out getting a bs in cs gave me an as in math along the way 20:26 < gnupluslinux> S U P E R U S E F U L 20:26 < gnupluslinux> xtensive, yep. literally the way we could afford it 20:27 < xtensive> it paid off for them though, now I pay a shitload in taxes 20:27 < gnupluslinux> i was considering not going until someone pointed it out to me 20:27 < gnupluslinux> lol basically 20:28 < gnupluslinux> i've repaid my grants and then some and took me way less than the 4 yrs they paid me 20:29 < felda> Code_Man65 didn't actually get an financial aid he just beat up students for their lunch money and paid off his schooling that way 20:29 < gnupluslinux> felda, if it makes you feel any better, i apply relatively little of my degree to my jerb in practice 20:29 < gnupluslinux> the alumni network and being able to cold email profs has been cool tho 20:30 < ihre> i'd like to get a bs for counter strike as well gnupluslinux 20:30 < gnupluslinux> people looking down on other degrees have their head too far up their own ass cause anyone what went through any kind of decent program should know they dont know shit 20:30 < gnupluslinux> ihre, sorry ur 2 bad 20:30 < gnupluslinux> fucking scrub 20:31 < ihre> i dont play fy_iceworld 24/7 ;( 20:31 < gnupluslinux> de_dust or bust 20:31 < ihre> nuke/cbble/train > dust 20:31 < gnupluslinux> gtfo 20:31 < ihre> no u 20:31 < ihre> with your bs in cs 20:31 < gnupluslinux> no u 20:31 < gnupluslinux> qq 20:31 < ihre> bullshit you mean 20:32 < gnupluslinux> i like calling it my bullshit degree lol 20:32 < ihre> now i understand 20:32 <@JollyRgrs> gnupluslinux: everyone here uses skype and goes "qq" to mean quick question... i laugh every time I see it 20:32 < gnupluslinux> QQ 20:32 <+giant_it_burrit> dafaq 20:32 < gnupluslinux> JollyRgrs, i have never seen taht dafuq lol 20:36 < vinrock> https://i.imgur.com/GvYJYlX.png 20:36 < vinrock> proclick ^ 20:36 < xtensive> WTF 20:37 < corn266> changing the zuckbot's oil she means 20:37 < gnupluslinux> uhhhh 20:37 <+DrGibby|> ... 20:46 < corn266> wtf rhel your latest update is soft locking cpus 20:59 < AnimalFarmPig> awwwww.... what a sweet story. Realize humanizes the Zuck 21:00 <+giant_it_burrit> Church-: 21:00 <+giant_it_burrit> hey 21:00 <+giant_it_burrit> you 21:00 < Church-> Hmm? 21:00 <+giant_it_burrit> i heard you coming to visit me 21:00 < Church-> I am? 21:00 <+giant_it_burrit> mhm 21:00 <+giant_it_burrit> pm? 21:02 < Church-> giant_it_burrit: Pm'd you. 21:02 <+giant_it_burrit> i replied 21:05 <+MillerBOSS> .bofh 21:05 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS, BOFH says: Telecommunications is upgrading. 21:06 <+MillerBOSS> Good, I'll turn off my computer and telephones. 21:07 < xtensive> bleep blop 21:08 * DrGibby| farts on MillerBOSS 21:08 <+MillerBOSS> Running more wires in the warehouse today. Time to lose this gut 21:09 <+MillerBOSS> I wish I just had 20 boxes of Ethernet cable to run at the same time 21:10 < xtensive> you're doing the runs yourself MillerBOSS ? 21:10 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah 21:10 < xtensive> do you get to run a scissor lift? 21:10 < SynMonger> how many do you have? 21:10 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah we own a scissor lift so that is nice 21:10 <+DrGibby|> I like playing with the scissor lift 21:10 <+DrGibby|> or the man lift 21:11 < xtensive> scissor lifts are the best 21:11 <+DrGibby|> I like the man lifts you can drive around and shit 21:11 <+MillerBOSS> 10 boxes with 2 keystones each SynMonger 21:11 <+MillerBOSS> I'll gab a picture 21:13 < Church-> yumaikas: Ping 21:13 < SynMonger> better than here... we keep two boxes of cable around but my boss only lets one out 21:14 <+AnonymooseReddtr> brb 21:17 < vinrock> this is the best closing line from any news article ive ever read 21:17 < vinrock> "Reports said police had placed an evidence marker over a Slim Jim in the gas station’s parking lot." 21:17 < Zrane> assault with a meat stick? 21:18 < vinrock> guy underpaid for a slim jim 21:18 < vinrock> gas station owner shot him 21:18 <+MillerBOSS> We got two boxes but its just easier to run them at the same time and I am no professional with how to run the wires. https://supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.millerboss.com/Untitled-xj.jpg So another guy and I mounted the boxes and PVC pipes for easy runs. I'd rather not use j hooks or the shit hanging you see there now that was present before we bought the building SynMonger xtensive DrGibby| 21:18 < vinrock> the aristocrats 21:18 < tenthshift> hey anyone have feelings on portable generators? 21:18 < tenthshift> esp. florida folks 21:18 < vinrock> yeah 21:18 < vinrock> generator inverter 21:18 <+MillerBOSS> Picture is from Monday and electrical will be done today. 21:18 < vinrock> preferable honda 2000w 21:18 < vinrock> Yamaha ones are good too 21:18 < Heresiarch> tenthshift: if you're running a nursing home, better get one. 21:18 < vinrock> dont buy generac from home depot 21:19 < SynMonger> harbor freight has a ripoff 2000w now 21:19 < vinrock> if you want extra beef, honda 3000w generator inverter 21:19 < Heresiarch> tenthshift: what context are you asking in? 21:19 < tenthshift> Heresiarch, hurricane preparations 21:19 < vinrock> harbor freight generator is good for like a single camping trip 21:19 < tenthshift> thinking ahead 21:19 < vinrock> maybe more, maybe less 21:20 < SynMonger> can't you hook up two 2000w's? 21:20 < tenthshift> I want to run a fridge and a couple PCs, probably some fans 21:20 < vinrock> yeah you can combine them 21:20 < tenthshift> why an inverter specifically 21:20 < SynMonger> clean power 21:20 < Heresiarch> tenthshift: ...you know how I know you haven't lived in FL very long? 21:20 < vinrock> quiet, energy efficient, pure sine output 21:20 < tenthshift> Heresiarch, only my entire life 21:20 < vinrock> you can run elecxtronics directly off a generator inverter 21:21 < Heresiarch> tenthshift: then you have your priorities a bit out of whack. The first and second priorities of a gen should be AC and fridge. 21:21 < vinrock> and the sound level and fuel consumption is night/day compared to a regular generator 21:22 < tenthshift> Heresiarch meh fuck the AC; it runs like crap anyway. Unless I end up putting mastic on the ducts before it gets testicle-melting hot again, I wouldn't notice a difference if it died 21:22 < vinrock> here 21:22 < vinrock> https://powerequipment.honda.com/generators/models/eu3000is 21:22 < Heresiarch> tenthshift: ...k. 21:22 < vinrock> thats like as good as it gets unless you want the silly 7,000w model 21:22 < tenthshift> appreciating the info vinrock 21:22 < vinrock> np i have to use them all the time, im big into camping and riding 21:23 < vinrock> i lost power for 9 days from hurricane sandy and only had a generic generator at the time 21:23 < vinrock> ofc after day 2 it shit the bed 21:24 < Heresiarch> tenthshift: then the only other info I can provide is to keep it away from your house when running. Not in the garage, outside of the awning perimeter. 21:24 < SynMonger> I live in the boonies and 12-24h power outages aren't uncommon, been looking at whole house natural gas setups 21:24 < vinrock> yeah thats the baller shit righ tthere 21:24 < vinrock> if you can aford it, do it 21:24 < tenthshift> Heresiarch, indeed. Every hurricane some dipshit kills themselves via carbon monoxide 21:24 < vinrock> around here we have people burn down their houses frying turkeys every fall 21:25 < SynMonger> gotta get the turkey derrick 21:26 < DomLS3> d/err/ 21:26 < DomLS3> s/err/ 21:26 <+layer-eight> DomLS3 meant: "d//" 21:26 < DomLS3> fuck 21:26 < tenthshift> haha 21:26 < SynMonger> so close 21:26 < DomLS3> s/ derr/d 21:26 <+layer-eight> SynMonger meant: "gotta get the turkeydick" 21:26 < DomLS3> missed a space but close enough 21:27 < SynMonger> gobble gobble 21:27 < Heresiarch> hmm...I wonder how common nat gas outages are. 21:27 < Heresiarch> even after a hurricane. 21:27 < DomLS3> so uncommon that I’ve never personally heard or seen one 21:28 < vinrock> not common 21:28 < vinrock> usually means someone's neighborhood just exploded 21:28 < DomLS3> vinrock: getting headers, CAI and upper pulley installed tomorrow 21:28 < DomLS3> then a tune next week 21:28 < vinrock> nice they got a dyno? 21:28 < DomLS3> I’m doing it myself with a friend 21:28 < DomLS3> but the tune place yes they have a dyno 21:28 < vinrock> i need a friend with a dyno shit 21:29 < vinrock> curious what the numbers gona be 21:29 < vinrock> how many lbs stock then after the pulley 21:29 < _Straffer> What's everyone's lighting situation in their office/at their desk? 21:29 <+giant_it_burrit> DomLS3: you east coast? 21:29 < vinrock> insufficient 21:29 < DomLS3> giant_it_burrit: central. I’m in Tennessee 21:29 <+giant_it_burrit> vinrock: what you drive 21:29 < vinrock> lexus gx 21:30 <+giant_it_burrit> ew import 21:30 < Heresiarch> costs on a whole-home nat gas gen aren't half bad. Still low on the list. 21:30 < DomLS3> vinrock: the pulley is going to add about 3 PSI 21:30 < vinrock> hey its one of the few remaining real trucks on the market 21:30 < DomLS3> stock the engine makes around 530 rwhp. I should see mid 600’s after the mods and tune are done 21:30 < vinrock> id expect a solid 700+ at the crank after the mods 21:31 < DomLS3> well the engine makes 650 stock at the crank 21:31 < vinrock> yeah 21:31 < DomLS3> so I would assume a lot more 21:31 < vinrock> cai/pulley/headers 21:31 <+giant_it_burrit> DomLS3: yourvette? 21:31 < DomLS3> giant_it_burrit: yeah 21:31 < vinrock> ah yeah i just stay conservative in my estimates 21:31 <+giant_it_burrit> i like the cooling seats :) 21:31 < vinrock> that way i can still get surprised 21:36 < DomLS3> damn 21:36 < DomLS3> some people are getting 570+ rwhp stock 21:36 < vinrock> is there that much variance or is yours down 21:37 < DomLS3> I haven’t put mine on the dyno yet 21:37 < F34RInc> felda, about to replace two sonicwalls with SG-3100's its going to be so much better 21:37 < vinrock> ah 21:37 < DomLS3> I was just estimated ~530rwhp 21:37 < DomLS3> apparently it’s actually higher 21:37 < felda> F34RInc noice 21:37 < WIN10> HI IM CORTANA 21:37 < WIN10> IM AT MAXIMUM VOLUME 21:37 < WIN10> PLEASE FUMBLE AROUND TO TURN ME OFF 21:37 < Heresiarch> kill it! kill it with fire! 21:37 < gnupluslinux> fuck you 21:37 < DomLS3> touch of wifi there 21:37 < gnupluslinux> master cheif is mine 21:37 < xtensive> I hate that bitch soooooo much 21:38 < gnupluslinux> eh is a cool guy and doesnt afraid of anything 21:38 <@JollyRgrs> felda: i just love that right now our win10 image has the cortana crap on the lock screen... we don't have touch screen laptops 21:38 < felda> -_- 21:38 < xtensive> forget you are setting up new win10 system, all of a sudden that comes up out of no where and scares the shit out of you 21:38 < felda> wowzer 21:38 < SynMonger> haha 21:38 <@JollyRgrs> "touch here and say 'tell me about that one time at band camp'"... 21:38 <@JollyRgrs> i wonder how many peopel touch 21:38 < xtensive> HI I'M CHUCKY!!!!!1 WANT TO PLAY?!? 21:38 < DomLS3> I’m your friend to the end 21:39 < DomLS3> aday duay dumbella. give me the power I beg of you! 21:39 < asimon> NOW WE CAN GO LOOKING FOR ANY UPDATES 21:39 < gnupluslinux> TWorker.exe initializing 21:39 < gnupluslinux> fans set to full throttle 21:40 < xtensive> lol 21:40 <@JollyRgrs> s/Wor/wer 21:40 < asimon> a little sign in here, a touch of wifi there 21:40 < gnupluslinux> sorry guess it's actualy TiWorker.exe but you know what i mean 21:40 <+layer-eight> gnupluslinux meant: "Twerker.exe initializing" 21:40 < gnupluslinux> asimon, fuck you 21:41 < gnupluslinux> i heard that 21:41 < asimon> gnupluslinux: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp2rhM8YUZY 21:41 <+layer-eight> YouTube Hi Im Cortana by 2017-12-06T23:31:11.000Z (duration: 51s) on Thu Dec 07 06:31:11 UTC 2017, 2017-12-06T23:31:11.000Z views 21:41 < gnupluslinux> staaaaaahp 21:42 < SynMonger> I was just thinking about that video 21:42 < asimon> still better than the Alexa laugh though 21:42 < xtensive> that ans SearchIndexer 21:42 < Heresiarch> ...I wonder if anyone's made a vid with Cortana's voice speaking Clippy phrases. 21:43 < corn266> why doesn't epel have a GPG key? It seems like that'd be pretty easy to implement 21:43 < xtensive> there should be a video of clippy strangling Cortana 21:44 < Heresiarch> corn266: ...um...it does. 21:46 < technonerd> Clippy should replace cortana 21:46 < gnupluslinux> you mom should replace cortana 21:46 < vinrock> bonzai buddy 21:46 < technonerd> Muh purple buddy 21:46 < tsarbomba> wtf have i returned to??? 21:47 < technonerd> A DASH of autism 21:47 < technonerd> A sprinkle of wifi 21:47 < DomLS3> Alexa vs Cortana. Who wins 21:51 <@JollyRgrs> Google home does 21:51 <@JollyRgrs> that reminds me... i bet there are some new ERB of history to watch 21:51 < xtensive> gotta throw Siri in the ring too 21:52 < xtensive> *FIGHT* 21:52 <@JollyRgrs> wait, no? 21:52 <@JollyRgrs> it's been over 1 yr ago for all ERB videos 21:52 <@JollyRgrs> did they stop? 21:54 <@cryptic1> stawp it JollyRgrs 21:54 <@cryptic1> oops 21:54 <+giant_it_burrit> that doesnt have power over him remember!! 21:54 <@cryptic1> felda, back to work 21:54 <@cryptic1> giant_it_burrit, back to work 21:54 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, back to work 21:54 <+giant_it_burrit> cryptic1: cant go back if you havnt started 21:54 <@cryptic1> xtensive, back to work 21:54 <@JollyRgrs> cryptic1: back to sucking on the maple tree teat 21:55 <@cryptic1> DomLS3, back to work no voice for you 21:55 <@cryptic1> technonerd, back to work 21:55 <@cryptic1> JFDkthx, back to work 21:55 < DomLS3> cryptic1: but but but 21:55 < DomLS3> its not my fault code_man65 kicks me randomly 21:55 < xtensive> cryptic1 do you know AvE? 21:55 < DomLS3> I should have auto +v :( 21:56 <@cryptic1> xtensive, of course 21:56 <+giant_it_burrit> i feel like there are <50 people who talk here 21:56 <@cryptic1> don't let the pixies out 21:56 < DomLS3> giant_it_burrit: that’s probably accurate 21:56 <+giant_it_burrit> 730 lurkers 21:56 <+giant_it_burrit> gross 21:56 < asimon> Is your back to work scripted or do you type it out each time 21:56 < DomLS3> s/lurkers/CIA agents 21:56 <+layer-eight> giant_it_burrit meant: "730 CIA agents" 21:57 < asimon> If its not scripted I'd say you should probably get back to working on that 21:57 < vinrock> keep your dick in a vice 21:57 < F34RInc> AVE 21:58 < xtensive> but why giant_it_burrit 21:58 <+giant_it_burrit> why gross 21:58 <+giant_it_burrit> they are here logging mah setries 21:59 < xtensive> maybe they are sleeping right now 22:00 < xtensive> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/sunearth.html 22:01 < corn266> now I can stare at the sun with extreme precision, thanks xtensive 22:01 < technonerd> uber has todo a privacy audit every 2 years now 22:02 < xtensive> yw corn266 looks pretty dark over Africa right now 22:03 < corn266> tell me xtensive, do you miss the rains down in Africa 22:03 <@JollyRgrs> s/over Africa/iiinn aaaaaaaaaaaaffriicaaaaaaaaaaaaa 22:03 <+layer-eight> xtensive meant: "yw corn266 looks pretty dark iiinn aaaaaaaaaaaaffriicaaaaaaaaaaaaa right now" 22:03 < xtensive> lol 22:03 < vinrock> anyone with brother printers manage to suppress the "Brother BrLog" events it spits out any time someone scans somethin 22:03 < vinrock> s/printers/MFC's 22:03 <+layer-eight> vinrock meant: "anyone with brother MFC's manage to suppress the "Brother BrLog" events it spits out any time someone scans somethin" 22:03 < xtensive> Family Guy ruined that song for me, not that I had any sort of attachment to it or anything but still 22:09 <@JollyRgrs> xtensive: how'd they do that? 22:09 <@JollyRgrs> i was never that huge into family guy 22:10 < gnupluslinux> more than feeelingggg 22:10 < corn266> bonny and cripple cop got back together in a strip club with toto playing in the background 22:10 < technonerd> I just can't fight this feeling anymore 22:11 < gnupluslinux> i believe in a thing called love 22:11 < gnupluslinux> just listen to the rhythm of my heart 22:11 < xtensive> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpiTX-ssPVE (possibly NSFW? I mean it does air on TV but still) 22:11 <+layer-eight> YouTube Family Guy joe and bonnie toto Africa by 2013-01-17T06:28:20.000Z (duration: 1:11) on Thu Jan 17 13:28:20 UTC 2013, 2013-01-17T06:28:20.000Z views 22:11 < vinrock> here i got a throwback for ya 22:11 < vinrock> .yt tarzan boy 22:11 <+layer-eight> YouTube Baltimora - Tarzan Boy - https://youtu.be/_r0n9Dv6XnY 22:11 < technonerd> It's easy to rock a rhythm 22:12 < vinrock> oooooOoOOOoooOOOOOOOOAAOOOOOAAAOOAAAOOOOAAAAAAoooooAAAAAAAAAAA 22:12 < xtensive> lol corn266 cripple cop 22:12 < gnupluslinux> its tricky to rock a rhyme 22:12 < linuxdood> xtensive, what you going on about 22:12 < tsarbomba> you guys must be listening to your nicki minaj records 22:12 < gnupluslinux> rock a rhyme that right on time 22:12 < gnupluslinux> its tricky 22:12 < keldwud> it's tricky 22:12 < keldwud> tricky 22:12 < keldwud> tricky tricky 22:12 < xtensive> Family Guy linuxdood 22:13 < linuxdood> xtensive, lol BIRD IS THE WORD? 22:13 < technonerd> I want to play ssx tricky now 22:13 < vinrock> that game was dope 22:13 < xtensive> Haven't you heard? 22:13 < linuxdood> xtensive, but futurama is better 22:13 < keldwud> xtensive: the word? 22:13 < gnupluslinux> aggressive inline was a lot more fun than i thought it would be 22:13 < keldwud> have I heard the word? 22:13 < linuxdood> Guess what? 22:13 < keldwud> xtensive: what's the word? 22:13 < technonerd> Call your mother into the room and show her how good you are 22:13 < gnupluslinux> forget what the demo came on but i played the shit out of it 22:13 < keldwud> linuxdaemon: chicken butt 22:13 < linuxdood> keldwud, lol 22:13 < xtensive> bababababababa umamowmow umamowowow 22:13 < linuxdood> xtensive, hahhaaaa 22:13 < keldwud> xtensive++ 22:14 < keldwud> xtensive: are you sure that maybe the word isn't bird? 22:14 < gnupluslinux> was also cool that the trilogy box set came with an extra dvd that would play extra feature if in a dvd player or the BF1 demo if inserted into an xbox 22:14 < keldwud> because I heard that maybe it might have been the word 22:14 < keldwud> you know, bird, being the word 22:15 < tsarbomba> did someone replace your air with NO2? 22:15 < tsarbomba> -2 22:15 < gnupluslinux> activate nos 22:15 < gnupluslinux> shift through 27 gears 22:15 < gnupluslinux> *screech* 22:15 < xtensive> something of the avian variety 22:16 < vinrock> rememebr the original gran turismo 22:16 < vinrock> the mitsubishi gto had 7 gears when you tuned it 22:16 < vinrock> 7 GEARS OMG 22:16 < vinrock> now the new vette has 10 22:16 < vinrock> well, the auto 22:16 < tsarbomba> make sure you inspect your bottles. don't be like that one redneck who ran a 200 shot that leaked, got him high, and killed his ass 22:17 < corn266> keldwud: the word is stroke 22:18 < xtensive> check your passenger side floor pan rivets too 22:18 < xtensive> those things wiggle loose when you hit the NOS 22:19 < keldwud> corn266: like, the dirty kind? or the kind you do in the water? 22:24 < felda> cryptic1 went to college at felda.io 22:25 < Zrane> does felda.io have a catchy jingle like mid america university or vatterot? 22:25 < felda> yessir 22:25 < xtensive> only 30% seizure rate 22:26 < corn266> looks like it's beer 30, catch y'all tomorrow 22:26 < felda> felda.io actually has a new jingle 22:26 < Heresiarch> is it as seizure-inducing as the last one? 22:28 < xtensive> 🎶 If you're on the fence 🎶 try pfsense 🎶 22:29 < xtensive> hee hee 22:39 < tsarbomba> any of you triskadekaphobics planning to hide under your bedsheets tomorrow? 22:40 < asimon> Giving up for the day 22:40 < asimon> See you tomorrow my friends 22:42 * xtensive googles triskadekaphobic 22:42 < DomLS3> xtensive: fear of the number 13 22:42 < xtensive> Did you mean triskaidekaphobic? 22:43 < jrwr> anyone good with kismet 22:43 < jrwr> I've got a kismet drone on a thing 22:43 < vinrock> "in human endeavor, chance favors the prepared mind." 22:43 < vinrock> wtf kind of garbage fortune cookies are these 22:43 < jrwr> I can see stuff in the channel view, but no packets are showing / clients 22:43 < vinrock> i want it to be like "yo dawg buy a lottery ticket" no gimme words of wisdom 22:43 < xtensive> how can you prepare for chance? 22:43 < DomLS3> vinrock: chance favors the prepared mind 22:43 < DomLS3> that was quoted in a steven segall movie 22:44 < vinrock> aw jesus they arent even original 22:44 < xtensive> that's called stalking, TRUST ME 22:44 < DomLS3> under seige 2 I believe it was 22:44 < cloudpico> Hey guys. Question for you guys. I have a RD Services environment with 2 phsyical services, with RD services split across them. My RD Host server that holds most of the RD services, every single time the network drops and comes back up, Remote Desktop services fails. I need to go to services and restart RD services for it to work again. Anyone have any idea what's going on? 22:44 < vinrock> watching steven segal run is one of life's simple pleasures 22:45 < DomLS3> cloudpico: you should probably first figure out why the network keeps dropping 22:46 < DomLS3> on the flip side, you can set the service to automatically restart x numbers of times upon failure 22:46 < cloudpico> @DomLS3 actually fixed the network dropping :) I'm giving an example actually. Network doesn't drop often, but the other night we were doing network maintenance and had to take the router downa nd it happened. 22:47 < DomLS3> it only does it when your LAN drops or your WAN? 22:47 < cloudpico> Yep 22:47 < DomLS3> which one -_- 22:47 < cloudpico> Oh, sorry haha. LAN 22:47 <@JollyRgrs> when you lose link on the server NIC? 22:47 < cloudpico> When I lose link on the server NIC, correct. 22:48 < DomLS3> check event logs 22:48 < cloudpico> Hmm fair enough 22:48 < DomLS3> but I would think it’s because it can’t contact the network and times out or something. Like I said you can set the service to restart automatically if it detects a failure 22:48 < felda> DomLS3 ur mom gay 22:49 < vinrock> fite 22:49 < DomLS3> s/mom gay/my daddy 22:49 <+layer-eight> felda meant: "DomLS3 ur my daddy" 22:49 < DomLS3> felda speaks nothing but fax ^ 22:49 < felda> lel 22:49 < felda> no u 22:49 < cloudpico> well, thanks for the suggestion! 22:49 < tsarbomba> lol @ hashtag #MS6AndAHalf 22:49 < DomLS3> felda: ty for changing that god awful christmas shit on felda.io 22:49 < DomLS3> only took you 4 months 22:50 < DomLS3> I bet you leave christmas lights up year round don’t you? 22:50 < tsarbomba> weird that you're looking for a software solution to a hardware failure 22:50 < vinrock> 2late he left 22:50 < tsarbomba> felda's only source of interior lighting are the strings of christmas lights he stapled to his ceiling 22:50 < DomLS3> tsarbomba: wat? 22:50 < DomLS3> tsarbomba: he said his RD services would fail if the NIC went down 22:50 < DomLS3> he said he already fixed the NIC 22:50 < tsarbomba> vinrock, damn, he bounced quickly 22:50 < DomLS3> RD services = software 22:51 < DomLS3> ??? 22:51 < vinrock> we scared him off 22:51 < tsarbomba> if he already fixed the NIC why did he refer to it in the present tense 22:51 < DomLS3> tsarbomba: because he was trying to figure out why the RD service would fail and require a manual restart before it would come back up (If the nic goes down) 22:52 < tsarbomba> so he refers to a nic failure in the present tense? no wonder managers are still aghast at the communications skills of the average IT dork 22:52 < xtensive> wew lad 22:52 < DomLS3> tsarbomba: he actually said “any time the network drops” 22:52 < tsarbomba> anyway glad he figured out his problem. he certainly didn't bother to hang around long afterwards. 22:52 < tsarbomba> domls3, does that sound like an indication that he fixed his problem? 22:52 < DomLS3> so it’s more than just if a NIC fails. that could mean if a switch is unplugged 22:52 < tsarbomba> do fixed NICs drop network often? 22:53 < tsarbomba> "i fixed it but fuck if it keeps telling me it's unplugged!" 22:53 < DomLS3> I don’t think you’re getting it 22:53 < tsarbomba> lol. yeah. that must be it. 22:53 < DomLS3> even with the fixed nic, he’s saying if the network drops, the RD service fails 22:53 < tsarbomba> already lost interest. move on. 22:53 < DomLS3> that could mean if the ethernet cord is unplugged, if a switch dies, etc 22:54 < DomLS3> you lost interest because you couldn’t comprehend the question 22:54 < DomLS3> much like you can’t comprehend carbon fiber superiority 22:54 < tsarbomba> yeah. you keep telling yourself that, cletus. 22:54 < tsarbomba> lol. says the guy who never even attended college to the guy who has a bachelors in mechanical engineering 22:54 < tsarbomba> good luck with that one 22:55 < DomLS3> you must have went to a shitty college then 22:55 < tsarbomba> yeah. georgia tech is an awful engineering school 22:55 < tsarbomba> ranked #6 in the world in mechE last year 22:55 < tsarbomba> but sure. terrible. 22:55 * tsarbomba eyeroll 22:55 < tsarbomba> fucking prole douchenozzle. 22:56 < vinrock> shame that asian kid didnt smoke you 22:56 < tsarbomba> get back to worok on helldesk, faggot 22:56 < vinrock> just kidding you walked into it 22:56 < tsarbomba> that was virginia tech, retard 22:56 < vinrock> couldnt help myself 22:56 < tsarbomba> lrn2 geography 22:56 < vinrock> ah damnit 22:56 < DomLS3> if they are teaching their students that aluminum is better than carbon fiber... lol 22:56 < DomLS3> good god 22:56 < vinrock> well fuck you anyways then 22:56 < tsarbomba> the butthurt is strong in here 22:56 < DomLS3> you think I work on helldesk haha. That’s cute 22:56 < Zrane> ooh, slapfight. 22:56 < tsarbomba> butts were hurt 2018 22:57 < DomLS3> just another misinformed pleb 22:57 < DomLS3> tsarbomba is slowly becoming the next linuxdood 22:57 < DomLS3> MillerBOSS: We are going to need another ban petition soon 22:57 < xtensive> Gentlemen gentlemen! No fighting in the war room! 22:58 < tsarbomba> it's hilarious that domls3 has been at Maximum Butthurt over my proving that aluminum is empirically stronger than carbon fiber like, what, a month ago? 22:58 < tsarbomba> and then i tweaked his nipples over his pathetic little GM motor 22:58 < DomLS3> tsarbomba: You made no proof of that other than your words which mean absolutely nothing 22:58 < tsarbomba> since then? he's been at Full Autism 24/7 22:58 < tsarbomba> lol. ok 22:58 < DomLS3> I cited several sources in web form that proved you incorrect. 22:58 < DomLS3> you cited nothing 22:58 < DomLS3> good game 22:59 < tsarbomba> you cited one source that referred to "carbon nanotubes" in a manner that proved the author had no fucking clue what he was talking about 22:59 < tsarbomba> which you then doubled down upon 22:59 < tsarbomba> you were wrong. objectively. you still are. 22:59 < tsarbomba> sorry about your bad luck. 22:59 < DomLS3> dude I posted like 6 different links 22:59 < tsarbomba> and i posted the one that mattered. 22:59 < tsarbomba> next! 22:59 < DomLS3> and all you could say to any of them was “haha you’re wrong” 22:59 < DomLS3> seems legit 22:59 < tsarbomba> i guess that's why you're a college dropout helldesk guy, huh :D 22:59 < tsarbomba> seems legit 22:59 < vinrock> im confused how you guys are comparing cf to aluminum 22:59 < DomLS3> yeah you’re right. I’m a dropout on helldesk. You pegged me right down 22:59 < vinrock> they dont seem like something id make direct comparison of 22:59 < DomLS3> lmfao 23:00 < tsarbomba> vinrock, this retard thinks CF is more structurally capable than aluminum 23:00 < tsarbomba> he can't seem to explain why zero (0) aircraft use CF for load-bearing structures 23:00 < vinrock> id think its give and take depending on what properties you're talking about? 23:00 < xtensive> it was from some fighter jet vinrock and then it went down a very long and dark hole 23:00 < vinrock> ah 23:00 < tsarbomba> RRplc tossed around the idea of using CF vanes in the F136 engine 23:00 < tsarbomba> that lasted about 15-20 minutes IIRC 23:00 < DomLS3> tsarbomba: IT IS more structurally capable. And lighter. Just cost 3x more 23:01 < tsarbomba> one out of three ain't bad 23:01 < tsarbomba> what am i saying. one out of three is a failing grade. :D 23:02 < tsarbomba> .g tariff 23:02 <+layer-eight> Google 7,600,000 results found for: " tariff " 23:02 <+layer-eight> Tariff - Wikipedia - A tariff is a tax on imports or exports between sovereign states. Contents. [hide]. 1 History. 1.1 Tariffs in United States history. 2 Etymology; 3 Customs duty. 3.1 Calculation of customs duty; 3.2 Harmonized System of Nomenclature; 3.3 Customs authority; 3.4 Evasion; 3.5 Duty-free goods; 3.6 Duty calculation for companies in ... : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariff 23:02 < tsarbomba> meh 23:02 < tsarbomba> .g tariff china 23:02 <+layer-eight> Google 8,180,000 results found for: " tariff china " 23:02 <+layer-eight> Trump's Tariff Threats Are Working On China - 2 days ago ... Xi Jinping admits U.S. pays too much to sell cars to China. U.S. cars face 10 times the tariff of Chinese vehicles sold in the U.S.. : https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2018/04/10/trumps-tariff-threats-are-working-on-china/ 23:02 < tsarbomba> lol forbes 23:02 < silentfury> at&t is the worst. 23:02 < tsarbomba> the worst at what? 23:02 < vinrock> everything 23:03 < tsarbomba> their customer service is "aight" 23:03 < silentfury> the ADSL2+ line stats for this branch office are atrocious 23:03 < vinrock> whaaaaaaaaat 23:03 < Zrane> tsarbomba, no it isn't. 23:03 < silentfury> "sir, we've checked the line and everything is fine" 23:03 < tsarbomba> compare it to comcast 23:03 < xtensive> ADSL ... 23:03 < vinrock> ive got a bunch of managed t1s and holy shit theyre terrible with support and service 23:03 < tsarbomba> why aren't you on vdsl? 23:03 < DomLS3> I wonder why the SR-72 is going to be made out of titanium wrapped CARBON FIBER instead of aluminum 23:03 < tsarbomba> um 23:03 < silentfury> "sir, if we find there's nothing wrong with the line when we come out to check it, there will be a $99 service charge" 23:03 < tsarbomba> the sr-72 was designed in the 1940s 23:03 < Zrane> #reddit-sysadmin-engineering-slap-fight 23:03 < tsarbomba> there was no such thing as carbon fiber 23:03 < tsarbomba> you. fucking. retard. 23:04 < silentfury> tsarbomba: because it's a very tiny branch office and the people down there ordered the connection, not us. 23:04 < tsarbomba> jesus christ. stick to shit you actually know, like how to get your callers out of outlook safe mode. 23:04 < DomLS3> that’s the sr-71 23:04 < DomLS3> you moron 23:04 < DomLS3> https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/170463-lockheed-unveils-sr-72-hypersonic-mach-6-scramjet-spy-plane 23:04 < silentfury> but we seem to be content to let them flounder and do their own thing and then scream at our management 23:04 < silentfury> because that's how we roll 23:04 < tsarbomba> silentfury, i'm just surprised they even offer adsl2 23:04 < vinrock> silentfury i love how when you call enterprise support with an issue you have to click through a million menu options and then end up being told that for your specific issue you need to call a different number 23:05 < tsarbomba> domls3, um, you realize that's not really a plane, right? 23:05 < vinrock> then you call that number and the person answers and its residential billing support or some garbage 23:05 < tsarbomba> it's literally a concept 23:05 < DomLS3> tsarbomba: you didn’t even know what it was rofl 23:05 < tsarbomba> wait. of course you don't. because you're a fucking moron who thinks people use carbon fiber for load-bearing structures on supersonic jets 23:05 < DomLS3> you just said the sr-72 was developed in 1940s 23:05 < vinrock> then they say theyre going to transfer you and you get hung up on 23:05 < Zrane> I once spent 16 hours, across two days, getting transferred between AT&T departments. 23:05 < tsarbomba> >doesn't exist 23:05 < vinrock> zrane ive been there too 23:05 < vinrock> too many times 23:05 < tsarbomba> >rofl that people don't know a non-existent thing exists 23:06 < DomLS3> >thinking the plane existed in 1940s 23:06 < tsarbomba> okay. i'm going to have to put tardls3 on a temporary timeout while he wraps up his autist fit 23:06 < tsarbomba> i'm sure i'll see his ban when it comes 23:06 < DomLS3> >actually a different plane and was actually 1966 when it was introduced, not the 1940s 23:06 < DomLS3> good god 23:06 < Zrane> vinrock: I need to change some name servers for a domain that had been purchased through an earthlink DSL package before AT&T gobbled them up. 23:06 < DomLS3> you don’t know fuck all 23:06 < tsarbomba> lol did this fuckstick just claim the blackbird was introduced in 1966? 23:06 < tsarbomba> wow. 23:06 < tsarbomba> just...wow 23:07 < tsarbomba> anyway. off to the tardbin with you 23:07 < vinrock> eh, kinda sorta 23:07 < vinrock> the a-12 was that era 23:07 < DomLS3> tsarbomba: cite your source where the SR-71 was in the 1940s 23:07 < DomLS3> please 23:07 < DomLS3> please god do 23:07 < tsarbomba> okay so this tariff shit. has anyone else noticed prices starting to creep up and we haven't even implemented anything yet? 23:07 < DomLS3> because it was originally the A-12 which was 1962 23:07 < vinrock> im not noticing anything so far 23:07 < DomLS3> you fuckwit 23:07 < Zrane> tsarbomba, No. 23:08 < vinrock> but we're about to get buttfucked with $15/hr min wage so everything in this state is about to go crazy 23:08 < tsarbomba> i read that we're going to see 'targeted' tariffs from other countries. does that mean pickup trucks and foreign chaw? 23:08 < vinrock> id think natural resources 23:08 < vinrock> rare earth elements 23:08 < vinrock> they already tax cars like 25% 23:08 < tsarbomba> that's going to fuck over the sciences and tech pretty hard 23:08 < mkillebrew> You're both idiots, in your own special ways 23:08 < Zrane> I'm a little worried to see what it does to work in the long run, since we're automotive. 23:09 < tsarbomba> ah, here's mkillebrew, the most severely autistic person in this channel 23:09 < vinrock> well zrane xi jinping just announced theyre gonna lower the automotive tarriffs 23:09 < tsarbomba> i knew he'd pop up when his mom let him have computer time. 23:09 < vinrock> buick just announced a big china push 23:09 < Zrane> vinrock: interesting. 23:09 < Zrane> Shame we don't do shit for GM, because they're cocksuckers. 23:09 < tsarbomba> vinrock, i suspect that's more of a nod to their increasing middle-class 23:09 < tsarbomba> people with money don't want to ride bikes 30 miles in each direction 23:09 < vinrock> buick is also from what i remember the #1 selling automaker over there 23:10 < vinrock> which is kinda insane 23:10 < xtensive> Ii thought it was something about soybeans 23:10 < xtensive> that got the rural folk restless 23:10 < vinrock> fuck soy 23:10 < vinrock> busts up my guts and cant shit 23:11 < tsarbomba> i left a message for a buddy who works on scouting startups for a pretty large fund. hoping he has some insight i can use. 23:11 < DomLS3> “makes bold out of his ass statements about knowing his shit including having mechanical engineering degree from georgia tech... places people on ignore when he gets rekt in knowledge because he doesn’t know wtf he’s talking about” - tsarbomba 23:11 < tsarbomba> when manufacturing gets more expensive there will be winners and losers and i wouldn't mind piggybacking on the winners 23:11 < redhare> I've got an issue I currently cant crack regarding the outlook 2016 search index 23:11 < vinrock> lay it on us 23:12 < DomLS3> https://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/100years/stories/blackbird.html 23:12 < tsarbomba> outlook mystery search failures. gotta love 'em 23:12 < DomLS3> from lockheed’s own website 23:12 < redhare> Ive tried rebuilding the index, rebuilding the profile, uninstall/reinstall 23:12 < DomLS3> states the SR-71’s first launch was in 1964 23:12 < redhare> anyone have any ideas I may be missing? 23:12 < tsarbomba> going back to the office xp days outlook search would break constantly 23:12 < DomLS3> clearly, tsarbomba doesn’t know a fucking thing about his own “field of study: 23:12 < vinrock> did it just stop working 23:12 < vinrock> there was an issue before that i thought had been corrected 23:13 < xtensive> rebuilding the index sometimes takes quite a while redhare like days 23:13 < tsarbomba> how big is the mailbox? or is this company-wide? 23:13 < redhare> Yeah, it finally finished and still the same way it was 23:13 < xtensive> ah bummer 23:13 < redhare> Just this user, an the mailbox is under 1gb 23:13 < tsarbomba> okay did you actually tell us the problem though? 23:13 < vinrock> knock out the user account 23:13 < tsarbomba> i saw "i have an issue" and then you started describing what you did 23:14 < DomLS3> redhare: what’s the exact issue 23:14 < DomLS3> ? 23:14 < mkillebrew> it doesn't do the thing 23:14 < vinrock> not the windows user the mail account 23:14 < tsarbomba> but yeah, all else fails in outlook then blow up the profile and start it over 23:14 < redhare> Oh, sorry. No outlook searches come up with anything, and yeah I've rebuilt the profile as well already 23:14 < tsarbomba> nothing at all? 23:14 < DomLS3> redhare: is the windows search service on? 23:14 < tsarbomba> if it's just one workstation that sounds like a case for an outlook reinstall 23:14 < redhare> windows search works, just not outlook 23:15 < redhare> and I've reinstalled it as well. 23:15 < DomLS3> redhare: have you run all outlook updates? 23:15 < tsarbomba> nuke workstation from orbit 23:15 < redhare> im about there tsar 23:15 < tsarbomba> (truly my favorite answer) 23:15 < vinrock> and you sure its totally up to date? the issue i was recalling had to do with an update from feb of last year that broke search in outlook 2016 23:15 < DomLS3> “nuke the whole workstaton because of an issue with outlook search” 23:15 < DomLS3> jesus christ 23:15 < DomLS3> what an idiot 23:15 < vinrock> pretty long time ago at this point 23:15 < redhare> yeah all updates. outlook and windows 23:16 < DomLS3> redhare: any event logs? 23:16 <@cryptic1> evening 23:16 < tsarbomba> have you tried using the same machine and outlook install with a different mailbox 23:16 < vinrock> supdog 23:16 < tsarbomba> just for testing 23:16 < DomLS3> cryptic1: back to work 23:16 <@cryptic1> D: 23:16 < tsarbomba> even if it's a test account. fill it with some crapmail and then try searching 23:16 < xtensive> you did the thing? Options -> search -> indexing options -> advanced - rebuild ? 23:17 <+DrGibby|> cryptic1: get back to work 23:22 < redhare> Yep xten 23:22 < redhare> Let me try that tsar 23:23 < tapoxi> god it smells like updog in here 23:24 < xtensive> kek 23:24 < vinrock> if anyone bites on that ill kill them 23:24 < tsarbomba> millerboss has been trying to make that joke work for weeks 23:24 < tsarbomba> i don't think he realizes how widely-known it is 23:24 < tapoxi> IT SMELLS LIKE UPDOG IN HERE 23:24 < tapoxi> do the caps help? 23:25 < vinrock> oh shit 23:25 < vinrock> i think i know someone retarded enough to pull that off on 23:25 < vinrock> gonna try tonight 23:25 < vinrock> its my buddies wife 23:25 < xtensive> she must be hot 23:25 < vinrock> ... 23:25 < vinrock> hes a friend of mine so ill keep my mouf shut 23:25 < tsarbomba> you know which dad joke works way more than it should? when someone is butchering a pop music song and you ask them "do you know who sings that song?", then when they answer you say "let's keep it that way" 23:26 < tsarbomba> a shocking amount of people fall for it even now 23:26 < xtensive> well if he didn't marry her for her smrts 23:26 < vinrock> heh i havent heard someone pull that one in a loong time 23:26 < xtensive> ---> jump to conclusions mat 23:26 < vinrock> he wanted a girl that likes to ride quads 23:26 < vinrock> :| 23:26 < tsarbomba> hey quads are fun 23:26 < tsarbomba> i raced one when i was 13 23:26 < bigchim> 'quads' ;) 23:26 < vinrock> yeah but she wanted to get fat and spend some dudes money 23:26 < tapoxi> i have 4 dicks ama 23:27 < vinrock> hey its working so far.. i guess 23:27 < tsarbomba> okay it's 5:30 and it seems someone turned the a/c in the office to "arctic". 23:27 < tsarbomba> gonna enjoy a little southern heat for a bit. ttfn 23:28 < redhare> oh god I'd flay a hobo to have an ac worth a damn at my office 23:28 < tapoxi> wait what 23:29 < tapoxi> are you saying by gutting him you're releasing the cold trapped inside him 23:29 < redhare> $500m+ company and it's 76oF in here 23:29 < tapoxi> or that it would keep you warm and you'd tauntaun the dude 23:29 < redhare> neither 23:29 < redhare> I'd just do it for the opportunity 23:29 <+CheckYourSix> So, who's really good with Android and loading new versions manually? 23:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> try #android 23:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> i mean 23:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> try #cancer 23:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol 23:31 <+DrGibby|> heh 23:31 < DomLS3> CheckYourSix: you mean manually like through TWRP? 23:31 < redhare> yeah sorry if I dont wanna have to buy a new phone every 2 years due to blatant planned obsolescence 23:32 < xtensive> I think it is merely a barter thing tapoxi like if you had a hobo you needed flayed, and you had an AC unit to barter with, redhare would be your guy 23:32 < voidstar> Tupperware remix party? 23:32 < DomLS3> redhare: Yeah because iPhones don’t purposely slow older phones down in an effort to force users to upgrade right? 23:32 <+DrGibby|> voidstar: the best remixes 23:32 <+CheckYourSix> DomLS3: Don't laugh, but I have an old Motorola Xyboard tablet (2011 ish?) running Android 3.1. I just pulled it out of a storage box where it's been for a few years. I'd like to use it for an eReader, but it will not update or connect to the Google Play store at all. I'm wondering if there's a way I can manually load a newer version of Android to it? 23:32 < voidstar> only the best 80s covers 23:32 < redhare> domls3: yeah that's what I'm saying, the 5s got bricked because of it 23:32 < DomLS3> CheckYourSix: First off, I would try to factory reset it 23:33 < DomLS3> then connect to wifi and see if it works 23:33 < xtensive> I have a suamsung galaxy tablet like that CheckYourSix and it won't even surf the internet anymore D: 23:33 < DomLS3> if it still doesn’t then yes you can manually flash firmware on it by putting it in download mode 23:33 < xtensive> it is a really nice tablet too, but no updates, and pretty useless now 23:33 < DomLS3> then connecting to a PC and flash the firmware with something like ODIN 23:34 < DomLS3> but be warned, doing so could and probably will brick the device since it’s definitely not supported 23:34 <+CheckYourSix> Well what about just putting android 4 or 5 on it? 23:34 <+CheckYourSix> xtensive: Yeah, this is useless. Battery is probably toast too 23:34 < DomLS3> same process. Put it in download mode and flas the software from your computer 23:34 <+CheckYourSix> I just want something easy to use for ebooks 23:34 <+CheckYourSix> Don't wanna buy a new one lol 23:35 < DomLS3> you could probably type “root ” in google and get the steps 23:35 < DomLS3> and intead of using rooted firmware just download the stock firmware for the device 23:35 < DomLS3> CheckYourSix: You can get a used one on craigslist for like $50 lol 23:35 * CheckYourSix is really cheap lol 23:36 < DomLS3> is 2-3 hours of your time fucking with manually flashing firmware to an old device worth more than $50? 23:36 <+CheckYourSix> Depends how much of that is actual work vs. just waiting 23:36 < DomLS3> most of it is actual work 23:37 < DomLS3> not that it’s time consuming to do the work, the time consuming part is finding everything you need and getting to the point where you can just wait 23:37 <+CheckYourSix> What tablet is worth buying now that's really good on battery? 23:37 < DomLS3> flashing firmware itself is a quick process. It’s getting to the point that you can flash that’s time consuming because you have to make sure you have the correct firmware, correct flash software, correct settings, etc 23:38 < DomLS3> CheckYourSix: honestly I think the Amazon Fire Tablets are pretty good 23:38 < DomLS3> I’ve seen good reviews and they are cheap brand new 23:38 < DomLS3> The Fire 8 is only $54 brand new 23:38 < DomLS3> https://www.amazon.com/All-New-Amazon-Fire-HD-8-Tablet-With-Alexa/dp/B01J94SWWU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1523569125&sr=8-1&keywords=fire+tablet 23:39 <+CheckYourSix> Hmm. I guess I'm able to copy my own eBooks onto it too 23:42 <+CheckYourSix> I factory reset it and I'm connecting my account now. I'll see what it's able to do. I might be able to just read ebooks like this and not upgrade it 23:48 <+CheckYourSix> DomLS3: It can browse the internet, but it won't let me log into my google account. Says it can't communicate 23:49 < rpifan> hello humans 23:49 < rpifan> ive been given a job offer 23:49 < rpifan> but its all kinds of bullshit 23:49 < rpifan> and im pissed 23:49 < rpifan> since the beginninge theyve been full of shit 23:49 < mal_will> Does anyone actually sit back in their chair all day?? Like, whole back touching the entire back rest? 23:49 < mal_will> lame rpifan 23:49 < DomLS3> CheckYourSix: It’s probably because google doesn’t support that version anymore 23:50 <+CheckYourSix> DomLS3: Probably 23:50 < DomLS3> CheckYourSix: Try upgrading the play store app 23:50 < DomLS3> also try checking for software updates under settings -> about 23:51 <+CheckYourSix> It doesn't let me open "Market" (not even play store back then) without logging in. It's downloading an update though. Hopefully that'll do something 23:54 < DomLS3> CheckYourSix: you can probably download the play store.apk file online and install it manually if need be 23:55 <+CheckYourSix> Ah true 23:55 <+CheckYourSix> If it'll even run on this ancient 3.2 Honeycomb 23:55 < DomLS3> probably not 23:55 < DomLS3> but hopefully your software update will get you closer to 4 or 5 23:55 < FrostCyborg> So, does the small to medium business wear many hats, master of none position still exist in the industry? 23:56 < FrostCyborg> My company is killing me these days and I've been considering letting them fall to their own devices and find something less stressful. 23:59 < FrostCyborg> Eh... I guess I should stop complaining... I just never have felt before like they didn't understand the concept of reasonable pace with projects. 23:59 < sunrunner20> I'm getting real fucking tired of companies thinking disabling tls 1.0 by dropping the handshake packets at a firewall is anyway appropriate --- Log closed Fri Apr 13 00:00:43 2018