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00:17 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6-xj2RAaOw
00:17 <+layer-eight> YouTube PAPER LACE - The Night Chicago Died 1974 (Full HD)™.avi by 2012-02-05T12:45:12.000Z (duration: 3:11) on Sun Feb 05 19:45:12 UTC 2012, 2012-02-05T12:45:12.000Z views
00:20 <+MillerBOSS> I only know/remember this song from these fucking commercials https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N89qnlZM0i0c
00:20 <+layer-eight> YouTube Sounds of the 70's by 2012-09-24T22:09:20.000Z (duration: 2:02) on Tue Sep 25 05:09:20 UTC 2012, 2012-09-24T22:09:20.000Z views
00:20 <+MillerBOSS> All your favorite 70s hits in one fantastic collection
00:29 < czarbomba> anybody here like their sugar with coffee and cream?
00:35 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmhjXEkI5Lg
00:35 <+layer-eight> YouTube Billy Ocean - Loverboy by 2016-01-12T18:19:41.000Z (duration: 4:54) on Wed Jan 13 01:19:41 UTC 2016, 2016-01-12T18:19:41.000Z views
00:36 < czarbomba> you're not doing billy ocean right
00:37 <+MillerBOSS> OK learn me, grandpa
00:37 <+MillerBOSS> The next thing that should be done with these music subscriptions is the option to play the video if there is one right in the app when playing the song
00:37 < czarbomba> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f16Fw_K45s
00:37 <+layer-eight> YouTube Billy Ocean - Caribbean Queen (No More Love On The Run) by 2013-01-18T15:01:46.000Z (duration: 3:41) on Fri Jan 18 22:01:46 UTC 2013, 2013-01-18T15:01:46.000Z views
00:38 < czarbomba> it's that first bass pop that really hits you
00:38 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah and I got it cranked too
00:38 < czarbomba> absorb the funk, grasshopper
00:38  * MillerBOSS is
00:41 <+NinjaStyle> MillerBOSS: google ply music does that
00:41 <+MillerBOSS> And now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNgcYGgtf8M
00:41 <+layer-eight> YouTube Billy Ocean - Get Outta My Dreams, Get Into My Car by 2013-01-18T15:03:03.000Z (duration: 4:36) on Fri Jan 18 22:03:03 UTC 2013, 2013-01-18T15:03:03.000Z views
00:41 <+MillerBOSS> I never liked Google Play's interface but thanks for sharing. I may check it out again
00:42 <+MillerBOSS> Hey hey
00:42 <+MillerBOSS> You you
00:43 <+NinjaStyle> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/6ogfjkRJ/image.png
00:44 <+NinjaStyle> see dat
00:44 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah that is neat actually
00:54 < Gencade> is it friday
00:55 < czarbomba> it's sunday night. you have work in the morning. you slept through the whole weekend.
00:55 < Gencade> Thanks czarbomba good thing you told me now
00:55 < czarbomba> here to help
00:55 < Gencade> s/help/gawk
00:55 <+layer-eight> czarbomba meant: "here to gawk"
01:07 < TheTinker86> howdy partners!
01:07 <+MillerBOSS> There's a snake in my boots
01:09 < TheTinker86> Question for mah friends!
01:09 <+MillerBOSS> Who poisoned the waterhole?
01:09 <+MillerBOSS> :P
01:10 < TheTinker86> I'm trying to figure out a good remote support option. I was looking at Team Viewer but most of the client pc's are old as shit and idk when i will get new upgrades
01:11 < TheTinker86> I was thinking one of the VNC Softwares would work but i'm not sure which one or the best way to go about it so i can remote from out of the network
01:12 < TheTinker86> I was thinking about setting up a 'remote request' tool that could send me a request for support. but at times, i would need to remote in to install software when people arent around
01:12 <+MillerBOSS> With VNC you'd connect within a VPN if out side of the local network
01:12 < czarbomba> you have to set up vpn to the network or you'll be leaving a port open
01:12 < czarbomba> and with vnc that rarely ends well
01:13 < czarbomba> the remote user request software would be like logmein rescue which is expensive as fuck, or you could walk anyone who has the time through a join.me remote session which also makes certain assumptions that are a pain in the ass at times
01:13 < TheTinker86> i feel ya. is there a vnc tool you know of that allows for a list of installed clients similar to TeamViewer?
01:13 < czarbomba> no idea. i bounced on vnc years ago.
01:13 < TheTinker86> what do you use now? or dont need?
01:13 < czarbomba> tv or rdp, depending on platform. just for my personal machines, one which lives at work
01:14 < czarbomba> but i don't work out hopelessly out of date OSes
01:16 < czarbomba> heh there is a nearby wap named "adams truck"
01:17 < TheTinker86> i may have to go back and consider the team viewer thing
01:18 < czarbomba> what's preventing you from using it? pre-win7 clients not like it or something?
01:19 < TheTinker86> owner doesnt like the idea of spending money, which is hella dumb at 600 a year lol. but a tech issue is that some systems are from 02-05 and are pretty low spec
01:19 < Virtual-Potato> .... Are they running XP
01:20 < TheTinker86> lol some
01:20 < Virtual-Potato> jesus christ
01:20 < TheTinker86> i know
01:20 < Virtual-Potato> at the same time I'm not surprised
01:20 < TheTinker86> its one of those things. can't spend money if the boss doesn't give me the money lol
01:21 < czarbomba> do any of the XP users ask why so many web sites give them so many insecure page warnings?
01:21 < TheTinker86> eh
01:21 < TheTinker86> the company uses like 5 websites
01:21 < czarbomba> you should tell them "your boss makes your internet access insecure because he's cheap."
01:22 < czarbomba> let them do the rest
01:22 < TheTinker86> i just bought myself a personal NUC so i can set it up and show them the power it has
01:23 < TheTinker86> going to try and talk them into rolling them out
01:25 < czarbomba> lol are you really going to shame their existing infrastructure with a NUC?
01:25 < czarbomba> that's got almost a showman quality to it. i dig it.
01:25 < TheTinker86> the previous tech was willing to bandaid everything
01:26 < czarbomba> sometimes forced. but sometimes it's just flat-out cheapness.
01:26 < czarbomba> you have to read management to figure that one out.
01:26 < TheTinker86> they have the money, i just have to explain how they are wasting so much money on me
01:27 < czarbomba> you're a more or less fixed resource. opex vs capex.
01:27 < TheTinker86> its like when i tried to sell them on TeamViewer. i tried to explain how when something breaks at location 2, i have to charge them 2 hours of travel time along with whatever work time
01:28 < TheTinker86> team viewer, for 600 a year, would allow me to fix a small thing in 15m vs 3 hours
01:29 < czarbomba> what you have to do is track your time and expenses over a fixed period, work up what tv + the time savings would have cost as an alternative, then project over a year. put it on paper, make it pop, and then you find out if management is cheap or just stupid
01:29 < TheTinker86> more like ignorant
01:30 < czarbomba> once you've given them the "for dummies" education, ignorance can no longer be claimed
01:30 < czarbomba> hence, the slide into "stupid"
01:30 < TheTinker86> and they dont even need 'proof'. the CFO knows how the spending is going but she only gets so much approval power compared to the CEO
01:30 < czarbomba> so go to the CEO
01:30 < TheTinker86> yeah i just hav eto write up stuff for him
01:31 < TheTinker86> he doesn't even need 'proof' just whatever i write up lol
01:47 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-KN-dQc-4Y
01:47 <+layer-eight> YouTube Edgar Winter "Frankenstein" Live at Rockpalast 2007 by 2011-04-10T01:05:01.000Z (duration: 12:41) on Sun Apr 10 08:05:01 UTC 2011, 2011-04-10T01:05:01.000Z views
01:56 < rogers> any esxi ninjas around?
01:56 < rogers> I have a  HP NC523SFP 10GB nic that isn't showing up in esxi 6.5. It's a rebranded Qlogic QLE3242. If I do a DMESG, it shows <6>QLogic NetXtreme II CNIC Registration Agent cnic_register v1.78.75.v60.7 (May 21, 2014). I tried installing a driver, driver installed, rebooted, but still doesnt show. Any ideas? The fiber link is active.
02:11 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG0fNoj6r-Y
02:11 <+layer-eight> YouTube John Bonham - Led Zeppelin - Isolated Studio Drum Tracks/Outtakes RARE by 2017-04-28T00:49:39.000Z (duration: 55:05) on Fri Apr 28 07:49:39 UTC 2017, 2017-04-28T00:49:39.000Z views
02:15 < Gencade> hey you weebs
02:15 < Gencade> I am getting into anime
02:15 < Gencade> what anime should I watch
02:15 < Gencade> must be dubbed
02:15 <+MillerBOSS> None
02:15 <+MillerBOSS> Done
02:15 <+MillerBOSS> Easy
02:15 <+MillerBOSS> Go find a girl
02:15 <+MillerBOSS> GO OUTSIDE
02:15 < Gencade> MillerBOSS, steve jobs would be disappointed
02:15 <+MillerBOSS> OK
02:16 < Gencade> Death note it is
02:16 < rkeene> What up losers
02:16 < czarbomba> millerboss you must know that weeaboo isn't by choice
02:16 <+MillerBOSS> The sky rkeene
02:17 < czarbomba> if they were able to go find girls outside they'd do it. they're weeaboos. they can't.
02:17 <+MillerBOSS> Sucks for Gencade then
02:17 < rkeene> In Seoul for the week
02:17 < czarbomba> the only ways weeaboos reproduce are anime cons and 4chan.
02:17 <+MillerBOSS> Anything interesting rkeene?
02:17 < Gencade> MillerBOSS, Naw I'm fine on the girl department
02:17 <+MillerBOSS> Quit lying Gencade
02:18 < Gencade> But I'm not
02:18 < czarbomba> gencade is clutching his anime girl body pillow right now
02:18 <+MillerBOSS> Blow up doesn't count
02:18 < czarbomba> "i believe in you"
02:18 < Gencade> You guys are lame
02:18 < czarbomba> <3
02:18 < rkeene> MillerBOSS, Working on stuff
02:19 < czarbomba> it's you! DG!
02:26 < Gencade> bitches
02:27 < TheTinker86> corporate antivirus. about a decade ago we used trendnet.
02:27 <+MillerBOSS> Ain't shit but hoes and tricks
02:27 < TheTinker86> any recomendations?
02:27 <+MillerBOSS> Microsoft security essentials for XP
02:27 <+MillerBOSS> And for 7
02:27 <+MillerBOSS> Defender, same product is built into 10
02:28 < TheTinker86> but those are the worst lol
02:28 <+MillerBOSS> And one up from there if you feel the need
02:28 <+MillerBOSS> Worst how?
02:28 < TheTinker86> annoying and defender is a fuckhole of resources lol
02:29 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah if you are using XP hardware
02:29 <+MillerBOSS> Otherwise its great
02:29 < TheTinker86> maybe now?
02:29 < TheTinker86> like its been updated
02:29 <+MillerBOSS> 512MB of RAM in your XP machines?
02:29 <+MillerBOSS> Of course
02:29 < TheTinker86> cus a year ago a brand new laptop could get buttfucked by defender because it was so bad
02:30 <+MillerBOSS> Well at least start from there and move up but it does the job most others do.
02:30 < TheTinker86> what about something that can be managed/reported remotely?
02:30 <+MillerBOSS> I assumed you would have a hard time getting that approved
02:32 < TheTinker86> potentially, but part of what im writing up is a 'vs' sheet to explain how a virus on a system with basic security will require me to physically go there. a server/client setup allows remote monitoring and saves them money in the long run
02:41 < czarbomba> defender on xp is not defender on win10
02:41 < czarbomba> it uses most of the mse code, no?
02:41 < czarbomba> mse is fairly lightweight
02:41 < czarbomba> s/most of/mostly
02:41 <+layer-eight> czarbomba meant: "it uses mostly the mse code, no?"
02:45 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.google.com/search?q=GIANT+AntiSpyware
02:47 <+MillerBOSS> MSE started from that and Defender for 8, 8.1 and 10 are just morphed/upgraded versions.
02:47 <+MillerBOSS> Defender in Vista was a little different from what I recall
02:48 <+MillerBOSS> And you could have defender and MSE
02:48 <+MillerBOSS> In Vista right
02:49 <+MillerBOSS> I remember that red bullseye logo https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/26/Windows_AntiSpyware_Beta_1.png
02:51 <+MillerBOSS> I forgot all about the short time of Microsoft AntiSpyware
02:54 < czarbomba> ENCODINcodincodincodinWHAT?!:
02:54 < czarbomba> i had defender and mse in xp for years
02:55 < czarbomba> i dumped avast like.,..2011?
02:55 < czarbomba> it is a lovely evening out and i may need to go enjoy some coldstone
03:01 <+MillerBOSS> OK so maybe I am a bit wrong. It looks like GIANT AntiSpyware turned into Microsoft AntiSpyware in 2005. Microsoft AntiSpyware changed names to Windows Defender in late 2005. Windows Defender was built in with Vista and 7. But when MSE was released in 2009 and installed in Vista and 7 it removed Defender. But then with 8 Windows Defender was upgraded into a anti virus application but it was similar to
03:01 <+MillerBOSS>  MSE.
03:01  * MillerBOSS shrugs
03:03 < rpifan> fuck windows
03:03 < rpifan> idk why we cnt just move on
03:22 < darkscrypt> fuck you linux people and your elitism rpifan
03:22 < rpifan> lol
03:22 < rpifan> why
03:22 < rpifan> my grandmother runs linux
03:23 < rpifan> surely u cant be beat up by my gma
03:23 < darkscrypt> maybe you just don't know how to use windows correctly.
03:23 < darkscrypt> messing with you.
03:25 < rpifan> dont u mine coins
03:26 < darkscrypt> i wrote a trade bot
03:26 < darkscrypt> not mining
03:27 < rpifan> oh really
03:27 < rpifan> i think ive seen ur work
03:27 < rpifan> cant u explain how it works plz
03:27 < rpifan> id like to make millions
03:28 < darkscrypt> i actually lost a bit of money doing it
03:28 < darkscrypt> turns out I can write restful api calls all day long but I don't know shit about trading
03:28 < darkscrypt> so the bots worked, but the trade skill sucked.
03:29 < darkscrypt> I haven't worked on it in months. I'm impressed you remembered that. lol
03:29 < rpifan> lol
03:30 < rpifan> i dont understnad how these trade bots work in general
03:30 < rpifan> but i hve an uncle
03:30 < rpifan> who is interested
03:30 < rpifan> maybe he can give u money to fix it
03:30 < darkscrypt> nah i think i lost interest lol
03:30 < rpifan> oh
03:30 < darkscrypt> there are good pre made trade bots out there
03:30 < darkscrypt> that do pretty well
03:30 < rpifan> but few of them explain the concepts
03:30 < darkscrypt> there is one
03:30 < darkscrypt> its pricey
03:31 < darkscrypt> less pricey than paying a developer to build something for you
03:31 < rpifan> which one
03:31 < darkscrypt> pulling up the info
03:32 < darkscrypt> here's a free one that has a good track record and is open source (since ya love linus)
03:32 < darkscrypt> https://github.com/taniman/profit-trailer
03:32 < darkscrypt> takes a lot of writing and strategizing. no code skill required but you do need to study up on strategy
03:33 < rpifan> where do i read on the strategy
03:33 < Gencade> cryptic1, get back to work
03:33 < Gencade> DrGibby|, get back to work
03:33 < Gencade> MillerBOSS, get back to work
03:34 < Gencade> darkscrypt, get back to work
03:34 < Gencade> rpifan, get back to work
03:34 < rpifan> no job
03:34 < Gencade> if you have no job, your full time job is to look for a job
03:35 < darkscrypt> https://profittrailer.com/ rpifan that one
03:36 < rpifan> i see
03:37 < Gencade> .seen kenrin
03:37 <+layer-eight> kenrin was kicked from #reddit-sysadmin 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours 32 minutes 24 seconds ago. Reason: at the request of #reddit-sysadmin
03:37 < Gencade> good
03:37 < darkscrypt> what did he do?
03:38 < Gencade> He's a nazi
03:38 < darkscrypt> a real one?"
03:38 < darkscrypt> I have a jewish friend who'se name is nazi
03:38 < darkscrypt> its kinda weird. dunno why his parents named him that
03:38 < rpifan> lol
03:39 <@cryptic1> evening
03:39 < Gencade> cryptic1, evening
03:39 < darkscrypt> i believe they were froma  pacific island or something, and some cultural thing. its pronounce nahh zzzey not like NOT ZEEE
03:41 < rpifan> but how exactly do these bots work in general
03:42 <+DrGibby|> Eat a bag of dicks Gencade
03:42 < Gencade> no you DrGibby|
03:42 < darkscrypt> its simple rpifan they buy low sell high multiple times a day
03:43 < rpifan> but do u have to tell them what to buy
03:43 < czarbomba> anyone here hard in the paint?
03:43 < rpifan> do u buy the tokens
03:43 <+DrGibby|> No u
03:43 < darkscrypt> hm. they do it all with what they can. you give them account they control all of it and try to make the best buys / sells depending on algorithm
03:44 < rpifan> but im sure u gotta fund it somehow
03:45 < darkscrypt> you have to buy coins or some tradable asset. Typically you use binance or bittrex or something to exchange
03:45 < rpifan> right
03:45 < darkscrypt> first you gotta know how to do exchanges. You can use an exchange manually
03:45 < rpifan> so i buy the coins first
03:45 < rpifan> how so
03:45 < darkscrypt> buy coins, put them on the exchange
03:45 < darkscrypt> just checkout binance.com
03:45 < darkscrypt> thats a big exchange
03:45 < rpifan> yea
03:45 < rpifan> i have a bittrex account somehow
03:45  * czarbomba does the "it's not a bubble" dance
03:47 <+MillerBOSS> You are a bubble
03:48 < rpifan> i am
03:48 < rpifan> i have a bubble butt
03:48 < Gencade> you're a boob
03:52 < darkscrypt> you are a boob spelled backwards
03:55 < Gencade> s/spelled/spelt
03:55 <+layer-eight> darkscrypt meant: "you are a boob spelt backwards"
03:55 < czarbomba> you're a towel
03:55 <+MillerBOSS> Head
03:56 < Gencade> MillerBOSS, you're an Apple fanboy
03:56 <+MillerBOSS> I don't even know what that means
03:56 < czarbomba> i think it means you produce estrogen every time you hold an apple product
03:56 < Gencade> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fanboy
03:57 <+MillerBOSS> Hmm
03:58 < Gencade> .bofh
03:58 <+layer-eight> Gencade, BOFH says: OS swapped to disk
03:59 <+MillerBOSS> .bofh
03:59 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS, BOFH says: The Token fell out of the ring. Call us when you find it.
03:59 < Gencade> .bofh
03:59 <+layer-eight> Gencade, BOFH says: According to Microsoft, it's by design
03:59 < Gencade> s/Microsoft/Apple
04:01 < Gencade> .bofh
04:01 <+layer-eight> Gencade, BOFH says: SIMM crosstalk.
04:02 <+MillerBOSS> 16'' of snow from now till 1pm I love it! On top of the 10 we got last night
04:03 < czarbomba> it was 88 here today :D
04:04 <+DrGibby|> Hey Gencade, I hope you have more meetings about meetings than work
04:04 < Gencade> I hope you step on a lego DrGibby|
04:04 < czarbomba> :O
04:04 <+DrGibby|> :O
04:05 < Gencade> ;)
04:05 <+DrGibby|>  ♥️
04:05 < Gencade>  ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️
04:07 < Gencade>  ♥️
04:07 <+MillerBOSS> vasa 👉 Using Mutter on iOS.
04:08 < czarbomba> why do i get the feeling that hunterkll was incarcerated in iceland and is sharing a rustic prison cell with a reindeer carcass
04:11 <+MillerBOSS> Lets hope
04:12 < czarbomba> you are p. salty tonight, millerbust
04:12 <+MillerBOSS> I am?
04:12 < czarbomba> stuck with the night train?
04:12 <+MillerBOSS> I have had no salt
04:15 < voidstar> always salt and pepper your password hashes
04:15 <+MillerBOSS> With a touch of parsley
04:16 <+MillerBOSS> http://www.wsj.com/graphics/how-pizza-night-can-cost-more-in-data-than-dollars/
04:17 < Gencade> get back to work
04:17 < Virtual-Potato> no
04:17 < Gencade> Virtual-Potato, yes
04:17 <+MillerBOSS> You are not the boss of me
04:17 < Gencade> I am tho
04:17 < Virtual-Potato> It's saturday
04:17 < voidstar> https://dl2.pushbulletusercontent.com/aljosq9BG3yDt9Nu9bF2IE2Nskdmxxqq/image.png
04:17 < Gencade> no, it's monday
04:17 < Gencade> so get back to work
04:17 < Virtual-Potato> FUCK
04:17 < Virtual-Potato> ITS MONDAY
04:18 < Virtual-Potato> I AM SO LATE
04:18 < Gencade> yep, time for...
04:18 < Gencade> SERVER MAINTENANCE
04:18 < Virtual-Potato> Gencade, you mean just rebooting them right
04:18 < Virtual-Potato> all at the same time
04:18 < Virtual-Potato> no staggering at all
04:18 < Gencade> Virtual-Potato, I guess that's a way to do it >.>
04:18 <+MillerBOSS> voidstar 👉 use this paywall get a round'r URL https://www.facebook.com/flx/warn/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsj.com%2Fgraphics%2Fhow-pizza-night-can-cost-more-in-data-than-dollars
04:18 < Gencade> The best part about rebooting servers is you can say you are trying to get the server back online while watching netflix
04:19 < Virtual-Potato> No the best part is finding new problems you've never had before
04:19 < Gencade> Like being a potato?
04:19 < rpifan> sigh
04:19 < rpifan> does anyone believe this scrum shit
04:19 < voidstar> I opened it in a 'private window'
04:19 < Gencade> rpifan, project managers
04:19 < voidstar> facebook.com is blocked on my network
04:20 < Virtual-Potato> rpifan, if you're working for a decent size company, you will need to
04:20 <+MillerBOSS> Create a bookmark and give the URL field this javascript:window.location="https://m.facebook.com/l.php?u="+encodeURIComponent(window.location.href); Click on it when at WSJ.com and other paywall sites.
04:20 < Virtual-Potato> What would we do without agile
04:20 < Virtual-Potato> MillerBOSS, that won't do anything if he's got facebook blocked
04:21 <+MillerBOSS> Yes I know silly. :)
04:21 <+MillerBOSS> That was for anyone
04:21 < voidstar> (y)
04:21 <+MillerBOSS> (x)
04:21 < Gencade> (.)(.)
04:21 < sedition> scrum can be great if its run correctly
04:22 < rpifan> sounds to me like an excuse
04:22 < rpifan> to exploit workers more
04:22 < voidstar> sounds like society on the whole
04:22 < rpifan> always keep pushing
04:22 < rpifan> for what
04:22 < rpifan> i mean what benefit does it have for the employee to make the companty more money
04:22 < sedition> im not sure how a style of daily meetings is exploiting workers but ok
04:22 < voidstar> eh, I wouldn't go that far
04:23 < rpifan> oh no
04:23 < rpifan> this is bad
04:23 < rpifan> its starting to make sense now
04:23 < rpifan> cause at this new.job they said thye have a daily stand up meeting
04:23 < rpifan> plus they use jira
04:23 < Virtual-Potato> lol thats what we used to do
04:23 < Gencade> .bofh
04:23 <+layer-eight> Gencade, BOFH says: lock speed
04:23 < czarbomba> will robinson's robot from the lost in space tv remake is terrifying
04:24 < Virtual-Potato> I attend standups only sometimes
04:24 < rpifan> im not sure what any of that means
04:24 < rpifan> ive almost always been freelance
04:24 < rpifan> i dont have any meetings
04:24 < rpifan> except iwth myself
04:24 < voidstar> czarbomba, shhhh I'm on the first episode
04:24 < Gencade> Virtual-Potato, eat a bag of dicks
04:24 < czarbomba> i haven't even watched it. i just saw the commercial.
04:24 < voidstar> aha
04:24  * MillerBOSS is listening to BlackHawk — Big Guitar, from the album Greatest Hits
04:24 < Virtual-Potato> rpifan, standups are just a quick team meeting where you go over what you've done yesterday, what you will do today, and mention any 'blockers' you have
04:24 < voidstar> I resend my sush
04:25 < rpifan> oh lord
04:25 < rpifan> that sounds like hell
04:25 < voidstar> s/resend/rescind
04:25 <+layer-eight> voidstar meant: "I rescind my sush"
04:25 <+MillerBOSS> Gencade likes dicks I think
04:25 < Virtual-Potato> eh only takes us 15 mins a day
04:25 < Virtual-Potato> not really that bad
04:25 < rpifan> why cant u just tell me whats broken and let me fix it
04:25 < rpifan> this obession over control
04:26 < rpifan> still its an opportunity for me to learn
04:26 < rpifan> and have valid complaints
04:26 <+MillerBOSS> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/reverb-for-amazon-alexa/id1144697855?mt=12
04:27 < rpifan> so these ppl use jira and confluence
04:28 <+MillerBOSS> Wow is Alexa better than Siri
04:28 <+MillerBOSS> I cuss at Siri every other time I talk to the cunt face
04:28 <+MillerBOSS> HEY SIRI!!!
04:29  * czarbomba wraps millerboss in tinfoil
04:29 <+MillerBOSS> OK.
04:30 < Gencade> siri can suck my dick
04:32 < voidstar> just wait, in 50 years it will be illegal to talk down to your digital assistants
04:32 <+MillerBOSS> lol
04:33 <+MillerBOSS> This Reverb app isn't that bad.
04:33 < czarbomba> if siri starts demanding to be a protected class we are all fucked
04:33 < voidstar> trust me, it won't be siri demanding it
04:34 < rpifan> do u have to talk at these stand up meetings
04:34 < rpifan> or can u just hang out
04:36 < Virtual-Potato> I liked jira and confluence
04:36 < Virtual-Potato> too bad we stopped those and went with something else
04:38 <+MillerBOSS> Jira Core or Service Desk Virtual-Potato ?
04:38 < Virtual-Potato> jira
04:38 < rpifan> ive never used them
04:38 < rpifan> but thats what i was told we use
04:39 < rpifan> so im trying to learn how it works
04:39 <+MillerBOSS> I really want to get into Jira Service Desk and Confluence but want to pay someone to get started.
04:39 <+MillerBOSS> And Atlassian offers no support
04:40 < rpifan> how do i learn how to d it
04:40 < Gencade> buncha weebs
04:41 < rpifan> there istn much in terms of good tutorials
04:43  * SpeakerToMeat grabs someone at random and hugs them
04:43 < SpeakerToMeat> I have internet!
04:43 < SpeakerToMeat> I thought I'd be without internet for life
04:43 < voidstar> me too
04:43 <+MillerBOSS> Why SpeakerToMeat ?
04:44 < SpeakerToMeat> MillerBOSS: Because I live in a shithole
04:44 < rpifan> the ineternet is bad
04:44 < rpifan> i find myself happier offline
04:46 < SpeakerToMeat> Any adsl hotshots here?
04:46 < czarbomba> s/live in a shithole/got high
04:46 <+layer-eight> SpeakerToMeat meant: "MillerBOSS: Because I got high"
04:47 < Church-> SpeakerToMeat: Good to here. How're things down there?
04:47 < SpeakerToMeat> Church-: Shitty :D
04:47 < Church-> Heh
04:47 < SpeakerToMeat> Church-: How is shit there? I hear you guys are dismantling the country
04:47 < Virtual-Potato> MillerBOSS, I could've sworn Atlassian offers support
04:48 < Virtual-Potato> maybe it's enterprise only, idk
04:48 < SpeakerToMeat> If there's any hotshots here..... my SNR marging is up from what it was.. but look at this...
04:48 < Church-> Ehhhhhhhh. Sounds right. Could be worse. Could be the Brits
04:48 < SpeakerToMeat> https://hastebin.com/libihohuhe.txt
04:49 < SpeakerToMeat> Church-: The Brits can still lose it all, but the attack can actually benefit them, believe it or not. the response to the spy poisoning and the attack strenghtens the brits.
04:49 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah Virtual-Potato. If you feel you have valuable insight to share I am will to pay
04:49 < SpeakerToMeat> Why is my ocupation %100? is it because I have a lot of bands in 0?
04:50 < SpeakerToMeat> And I have lots of bands in 00 because the modem detected noise or high loss or impedance or boucne back on those bands?
04:50 < SpeakerToMeat> Or am I wrong?
04:50 < SpeakerToMeat> MillerBOSS: What can I tell you for money? there's shit I want to buy, like food, and photo gear
04:51 <+MillerBOSS> Tell me about the trees that grow money.
04:51 <+MillerBOSS> I will pay for that knowledge SpeakerToMeat
04:51 < Virtual-Potato> MillerBOSS, how much
04:51 < SpeakerToMeat> MillerBOSS: Well, first you need to move to Colorado
04:52 < Virtual-Potato> I know how to make trees grow on money
04:52 < SpeakerToMeat> MillerBOSS: Then you need a particular kind of license to grow something.
04:52 <+MillerBOSS> lol
04:52 < SpeakerToMeat> MillerBOSS: The rest is basically harvesting money
04:52 < SpeakerToMeat> Dont mind the taxes, you'll still make plenty
04:52 < Virtual-Potato> MillerBOSS, how much you paying? I'll teach you how to plant trees that grow on money
04:52 < czarbomba> (it's funny because you're really harvesting something else)
04:53 <+MillerBOSS> OK, SpeakerToMeat Thanks!
04:53 < SpeakerToMeat> MillerBOSS: Specially if you're a tech... you can substitute some 3 or 4 money eating farmers for a couple raspberry pis and sensors
04:53 <+MillerBOSS> Virtual-Potato 👉 Paying for what eh?
04:53 < Virtual-Potato> MillerBOSS, knowledge on how to make trees grow on money
04:54 <+MillerBOSS> That is probably fairly easy to do. :P
04:54 < Virtual-Potato> Fuck it, I'll do it for free
04:54 < czarbomba> s/I'll do it for free/let's do it live
04:54 <+layer-eight> Virtual-Potato meant: "Fuck it, let's do it live"
04:55 < sedition> confluence is easy to use from an end-user perspective
04:55 < sedition> its trivial to make usable docs
04:55 < Virtual-Potato> Step 1) Dig hole \ Step 2) Place some money in hole \ Step 3) Plant tree seeds \ Step 4) Cover up hole with dirt & water
04:55 < sedition> and if you get something like the Gliffy plugin, you can stuff nice looking diagrams into your pages
04:55 < sedition> Jira _can_ be good, but its one of those things where you're programming workflow into it
04:56 < sedition> so it can be as simple or as miserable as you make it
04:57 < rpifan> where do i learn "jira"
04:58 < Virtual-Potato> by doing
04:58 < Virtual-Potato> (using it)
04:58 < Virtual-Potato> its pretty intuitive
04:58 < sedition> its pretty...yep
04:59 < Gencade> rpifan, have sex with a project manager
04:59 < Gencade> You can learn it through sexual transmission
04:59 < Virtual-Potato> Gencade, the PM will have to make a task for that
04:59 <+MillerBOSS> sedition 👉 Basically its overwhelming to me on how to start. I can see working confluence's pages that look great but no idea to get to that point.
04:59 < rpifan> hm
04:59 < rpifan> well maybe i can run it on a vps?
04:59 < rpifan> can i get a free version
05:00 < Gencade> free as in beer?
05:00 < rpifan> yea
05:00 < Virtual-Potato> I think you can run a personal instance of Confluence for free, but Jira you have to pay IIRC
05:00 < Virtual-Potato> nvm
05:00 < Virtual-Potato> both are paid
05:00 < Virtual-Potato> but you can try it for free for 30 days
05:01 <+MillerBOSS> I'll pay. That is not the issue.
05:01 < sedition> MillerBOSS: i pretty much just look at the source of other pages. once you learn the basics of block layouts (kinda like responsive grids if you do webdev) and headers/formatting tricks you're fine
05:01 < sedition> its pretty much exactly like mediawiki, just more polished and point-and-click
05:01 < rpifan> im just trying to instal lit
05:01 <+MillerBOSS> sedition 👉 Is the self hosted version still the old layout?
05:01 < rpifan> to play with it
05:01 < rpifan> anyone got a key or w/e
05:01 < rpifan> to play with it
05:02 < Virtual-Potato> rpifan, just go on their page
05:02 < Virtual-Potato> and downlaod it
05:02 < sedition> MillerBOSS: not sure, we have it installed internally. no cloud offering
05:02 < sedition> it hasnt changed in 3 years if that provides any more context
05:02 < rpifan> do u just download jira or is it all conencted
05:02 < Virtual-Potato> jira is free for 7 days
05:02 < sedition> they're separate apps
05:02 < Virtual-Potato> Confluence for 30
05:02 <+MillerBOSS> That is what I mean you have it installed internally so that is self hosted, right? Because the Atlassian hosted is the new interface and that has turned me off some what
05:03 < Virtual-Potato> yeah when we used it, it was self hosted
05:03 <+MillerBOSS> I am talking about Confluence there sedition ^
05:03 < Virtual-Potato> but I know Atlassian is really pushing the move from hosted to cloud
05:03 < sedition> yep. we're self-hosted
05:03 < sedition> i can def understand the appeal of the cloud option. we operate at a scale that blows up jira semi-regularly
05:03 < sedition> lol
05:04 < Virtual-Potato> same lol
05:04 < rpifan> why is it paid tho
05:04 <+MillerBOSS> Because I see a lot of the plugins for self hosted are lower cost than atlassian hosted cost
05:04 < rpifan> sould be free as in beer
05:04 < rpifan> whats the free equiolvanet
05:04 < sedition> because a company makes and supports it
05:04 < Virtual-Potato> rpifan, welcome to the corporate world
05:04 < sedition> mediawiki would be the confluence FOSS equiv
05:04 < sedition> not sure on Jira
05:04 < Virtual-Potato> or pretty much any other wiki solution
05:05 < sedition> yeah
05:05 < sedition> doku is nice and lightweight iirc
05:05 < Virtual-Potato> yup
05:05 < Virtual-Potato> I liked doku
05:05 < rpifan> what makes confluecne bette then just normal wiki
05:05 < voidstar> bookstack is pretty good even though it's still in development
05:05 < Virtual-Potato> rpifan, the interface is loads better
05:05 < Virtual-Potato> I can actually find stuff on confluence
05:05 < sedition> less manual markup
05:06 < rpifan> it does auto markup?
05:07 < sedition> it has more point and click options that do things you'd normally write manual syntax for
05:07 < rpifan> ah
05:07 < rpifan> so like wordpress lol
05:07 < sedition> yeah
05:07 < sedition> it really does take the effort out of making documentation
05:07 < Virtual-Potato> yup
05:08 < Virtual-Potato> it's a breeze
05:08 < rpifan> but then ur stuck with a proprietary format right?
05:09 < Virtual-Potato> I think you can export it
05:10 < rpifan> good
05:11 < rpifan> i wonder if i can export any work i do at work after i quit
05:11 < Virtual-Potato> I would strongly advise against that
05:12 < Virtual-Potato> unless you want to get sued
05:12 < rpifan> sad
05:12 < rpifan> then i will try to contribute as little as possible
05:14 < sedition> that's the spirit
05:15 < rpifan> well your nick is sedition lol
05:16 < voidstar> czarbomba, the first episode of lost in space is pretty hokey. I started watching because the trailer looked like a horror. I am disappoint
05:18 < czarbomba> well i figured there'd be a high cheese factor. it is, after all, a remake of lost in space
05:19 < czarbomba> that's what made the terrifying robot so striking
05:20 < sedition> the new one?
05:21 < SpeakerToMeat> DSL help any? please?
05:21 < rpifan> i mean sedition as in conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch.
05:21 < rpifan> lol
05:22 < mkillebrew> Lost In Space is pretty good so far, I think on episode 8
05:22 < sedition> which has literally nothing to do with confluence or doing your job
05:22 < sedition> mkillebrew: i thought it was a movie
05:22 < mkillebrew> I mean, it's no Firefly...
05:22 < sedition> gonna have to give it a whirl
05:48 < precise> Good evening saturday evening sysadmins
05:49 < Gencade> precise, hi
05:49 < precise> Hiya
05:50 < precise> Whatchya up to?
05:50 < precise> Gencade:
05:50 < Gencade> Watching boku no hero academia, you precise ?
05:50 < precise> Watching LivePD
05:50 < Gencade> what is that
05:50 < precise> It's like Cops
05:50 < precise> But "Live"
05:51 < Gencade> is it free?
05:51 < precise> If you bend over for your local monoplistic cable company, then yes
05:51 < Gencade> is it on a website?
05:51 < Gencade> I don't have cable
05:51 < precise> I think you can stream it on Hulu and Sling
05:52 < Gencade> ah dang, guess I'll have to... acquire it in other means ....
05:52 < precise> I'm sure you could find it somewhere....
05:52 < precise> It's almost over for tonight tho
05:52 < precise> Ends at 12E
05:52 < Gencade> do they change cities?
05:52  * czarbomba sticks precise's tinfoil hat back on
05:53 < precise> THEY'RE GONNA GET US
05:53 < precise> Gencade: They do, they have like 6-8 on per night
05:53 < precise> They stick with some, but go to a new locale once or twice a month
05:55 < precise> czarbomba: What's goin on w/ you?
05:56 <@JollyRgrs> SO BORED!
05:56 <@JollyRgrs> i took a few hour nap this afternoon
05:57 < precise> Hey JollyRgrs
05:57 <@JollyRgrs> hey precise
05:57 <@JollyRgrs> no tinfoil today?
05:57 < precise> I'm not drunk... yet
05:57 < precise> jk
05:57 <@JollyRgrs> anyone seen the hateful eight?
05:57 < mkillebrew> yeeeeee
05:57 < precise> I have
05:57 <@JollyRgrs> good?
05:57 < Gencade> yes
05:57 < mkillebrew> yes
05:57 < Gencade> very
05:57 < precise> So much blood
05:57 <@JollyRgrs> i just started it
05:57 < precise> very good tho
05:58 < Church-> Guess I'll go rewatch Mr Robot.
05:58 <@JollyRgrs> i can't do re-watching of many shows
05:58 < mkillebrew> imagine Djange Unchained meets Exam or something
05:58 <@JollyRgrs> yet i still buy them... lol
05:58 < mkillebrew> one of those one room films
05:59 <@JollyRgrs> i never saw unchained either
05:59 < mkillebrew> you should, it was good
05:59 <@JollyRgrs> on my list
05:59 <@JollyRgrs> just not got to it yet
05:59 <@JollyRgrs> with wife and two daughters... i don't get to see a lot of movies
06:00 <@JollyRgrs> this intro...
06:00 <@JollyRgrs> so tarentino.... so boring
06:00 < precise> Nah man
06:00 < precise> That's part of the theatrics
06:00 < voidstar> it ramps up quite a bit
06:00 < mkillebrew> then shut up and watch something else
06:00 < precise> lol
06:00 <@JollyRgrs> mkillebrew: shut up, i'm doing my own commentary on it
06:00 < Church-> JollyRgrs: You'll like unchained for the dentist.
06:00 < precise> JollyRgrs: If you can appreciate a good film, you'll like this
06:00 < Church-> Can never remember his name.
06:00 < mkillebrew> your commentary sucks
06:00 <@JollyRgrs> your mom sucks
06:00 <@JollyRgrs> no one complains :)
06:01 < mkillebrew> that's good I guess
06:01 < precise> So
06:01 < precise> Underated movie, The Death of Stalin
06:01 < precise> I just saw it, it came out recently
06:01 < precise> Got no media
06:01 < Gencade> I watched anime guys
06:01 < Gencade> am I dirty weeb now
06:01 < precise> It was fucking great
06:01 < precise> Gencade: Yes
06:01 < mkillebrew> you watch anime guys?
06:01 < Gencade> god damnit
06:01 < precise> Gencade: Also, no?
06:02 < Gencade> yay
06:02 < Gencade> did stalin do anything wrong?
06:03 < mkillebrew> He made the best of communism, alternative ending was everyone dead, not just a few million
06:03 < czarbomba> pol pot did nothing wrong
06:03 < precise> Debatable, but he died of natural causes, and the power struggle after his death is what the movie follows
06:03 < precise> But it is a commedy
06:03 < precise> And is funny af
06:04 < precise> I do have to give you a Steve Buscemi warning tho
06:05 < precise> lol, context is needed, the above is in relation to Gencade's question about Stalin...
06:05 < precise> Not Pol pot
06:05 < Gencade> POL ALERT POL ALERT cryptic1
06:09 <+DrGibby|> pls no
06:09 < Gencade> fuck you DrGibby|
06:09 <+DrGibby|> Gencade: not right now
06:09 < Gencade> double fuck you DrGibby|
06:09 <+DrGibby|> Gencade: not right now
06:09 <+MillerBOSS> ALERT ALERT
06:09 <+MillerBOSS> DrGibby| needs an adult!
06:09 <+MillerBOSS> ALERT ALERT
06:09 < Gencade> ALERT
06:09 <+DrGibby|> ALERT
06:09 <+DrGibby|> ALERT
06:10 <+DrGibby|> ALERT
06:10 <+DrGibby|> ALERT
06:10 < Gencade> get kicked noob
06:10 <+DrGibby|> 23:10:01 <Sigyn> Your actions in #reddit-sysadmin tripped automated anti-spam measures (repetition detected), but were ignored based on your time in channel; stop now, or automated action will still be taken. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact a member of staff
06:10 < precise> lol
06:10 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt7FbRWb8mQ
06:10 <+layer-eight> YouTube Donnie Baker on Baseball by 2012-05-07T19:51:57.000Z (duration: 1:38) on Tue May 08 02:51:57 UTC 2012, 2012-05-07T19:51:57.000Z views
06:10 <+DrGibby|> LITERAL SHIT
06:10 <+MillerBOSS> Sheeeeit
06:11 < Gencade> OOOOH SHIIIIET
06:11 <+DrGibby|> BAN SIGYN
06:11 <+DrGibby|> BAN SIGYN
06:11  * MillerBOSS is listening to Billy Ocean — Loverboy, from the album The Very Best Of The 80's 1985 Vol. 2
06:11 <+DrGibby|> BAN SIGYN
06:11 <+DrGibby|> BAN SIGYN
06:11 <+MillerBOSS> BAN SIGYN
06:11 <+MillerBOSS> BAN SIGYN
06:11 <+MillerBOSS> BAN SIGYN
06:11 <+MillerBOSS> BAN SIGYN
06:11  * precise chuckles
06:11 < Gencade> Ban EVERYONE
06:11 <+MillerBOSS> BAN SIGYN NOW
06:11 <+MillerBOSS> BAN SIGYN NOW
06:11 <+MillerBOSS> BAN SIGYN NOW
06:11 <+MillerBOSS> BAN SIGYN NOW
06:11 < precise> rip
06:11 <+DrGibby|> BAN SIGYN
06:11 <+DrGibby|> BAN SIGYN
06:11 <+DrGibby|> BAN SIGYN
06:11 <+DrGibby|> BAN SIGYN
06:11 <+DrGibby|> BAN SIGYN
06:11 < Disconsented> ban MillerBOSS
06:11 < Gencade> BAN ME
06:11 < precise> ban cryptic1
06:11 <+DrGibby|> BAN  GENCADE
06:11 <+DrGibby|> BAN  GENCADE
06:11 <+DrGibby|> BAN  GENCADE
06:11 <+DrGibby|> BAN  GENCADE
06:11 <+DrGibby|> BAN  GENCADE
06:11 < Gencade> BAN COMCAST
06:11 < precise> no
06:12 <+MillerBOSS> Yes
06:12 <+MillerBOSS> what?
06:12 < precise> lol
06:12 < precise> lmfao
06:12 < czarbomba> BAN SIGYN
06:12 <+MillerBOSS> BAN SIGYN
06:12 <+DrGibby|> BAN SIGYN
06:12 <+DrGibby|> BAN SIGYN
06:12 <+DrGibby|> BAN SIGYN
06:12 <+DrGibby|> BAN SIGYN
06:12 <+DrGibby|> BAN SIGYN
06:12 <+DrGibby|> BAN SIGYN
06:12 <+MillerBOSS> BAN SIGYN
06:12 <+MillerBOSS> BAN SIGYN
06:12 <+DrGibby|> BAN SIGYN
06:12 <+MillerBOSS> BAN SIGYN
06:12 < Gencade> LOL rekt
06:12 <+MillerBOSS> BAN SIGYN
06:12 <+MillerBOSS> Thank you
06:13 < czarbomba> >:|
06:13 < Gencade> Are traps gay
06:13 < precise> wot
06:13 <+MillerBOSS> What?
06:13 < precise> rekt
06:13 < DrGibby|> KEK
06:13 <+MillerBOSS> Welcome back
06:13 <@cryptic1> REKT
06:13 < DrGibby|> BAN SIGYN
06:13 <+MillerBOSS> Learn to enable auto rejoin
06:13 < DrGibby|> BAN SIGYN
06:13 < Gencade> rekt DrGibby|
06:13 < DrGibby|> BAN SIGYN
06:13 < DrGibby|> BAN SIGYN
06:13 < Gencade> cryptic1, where have you been
06:13 < Gencade> I missed you
06:13 < precise> SIGYN VS DRGIBBY| in #DONGER
06:13 < precise> SIGYN VS DRGIBBY| in #DONGER
06:14 < DrGibby|> BAN SIGYN
06:14 < DrGibby|> BAN SIGYN
06:14 < precise> SIGYN VS DRGIBBY| in #DONGER
06:14 < DrGibby|> BAN SIGYN
06:14 < precise> inb4 freenode staff pops in
06:14 < precise> cuz they will
06:14 <+MillerBOSS> They are already here
06:14 < precise> If they are online...
06:14 <+MillerBOSS> Its not like we are killing people ffs
06:15  * precise wonders over to #freenode
06:15 < precise> *wanders
06:15 < czarbomba> gibby v sigyn 1 on
06:15 < czarbomba> 1
06:15 <+MillerBOSS> Just pressing buttons
06:15  * MillerBOSS is listening to Edwin Starr — War, from the album 20th Century Masters: The Best Of 1970
06:16 <+MillerBOSS> .yt rush hour war
06:16 <+layer-eight> YouTube Jackie Chan Sings War! - https://youtu.be/r-bA9FYB8HY
06:16 < precise> wot
06:16 < precise> lol
06:17 <+MillerBOSS> hallelujah
06:17 < precise> Sigyn never leaves
06:17 < precise> is boy
06:17 < precise> *bot
06:17 < czarbomba> is russian bot
06:17 < precise> No
06:17 < czarbomba> da
06:17 < precise> cryptic1 is Russian bot
06:17 < czarbomba> da
06:18  * precise wishes he would have followed through on learning Russian
06:18 <+NinjaStyle> D:
06:18 < sedition> wat
06:18 < Gencade> welp, second season of hero academia
06:18 < Gencade> guess im a dirty weeb now
06:18 < precise> NinjaStyle: Hi
06:18 <+NinjaStyle> hi
06:18 < czarbomba> is that one of those schoolhouse animes designed for pedophiles and people who just want to dip their toes in pedo-waters
06:18 < czarbomba> followup question: which one are you?
06:19 <+MillerBOSS> Ha ha
06:19 < precise> So, we have water leaking in at the foundation line into our backroom
06:19 <+MillerBOSS> Get some sand bags now
06:19 < precise> I dug a ditch to reroute all water below the foundation line
06:19 <+MillerBOSS> And a water pump
06:19 <+MillerBOSS> Good luck
06:19 < precise> MillerBOSS: Is slow leak
06:19 < precise> Like
06:19 < precise> We've got it under control with a dehumidfier
06:20 < precise> We found the carpet, which will need to be replaced, somewhat damp
06:20 < precise> So I dug this trench, and the water persists, next step is caulk I guess
06:21 < precise> Also, I just pulled 3 trees out of my backyard, one of which was like 25' tall
06:21 < precise> Felt like a bad ass throwing that shit across the yard
06:23 < DrGibby|> g'night you cunts
06:23 <+NinjaStyle> upping my 401k contrbution to 9% with 3% employer match, so total of 12
06:23 < DrGibby|> <3
06:24 < precise> DrGibby|: night ya basterd
06:24 < precise> NinjaStyle: Still at the same place?
06:24 <+NinjaStyle> ye
06:24 < precise> :)
06:24 <+NinjaStyle> i need to get to max on 401k
06:25 <+NinjaStyle> hopefully within the next year
06:25 < precise> That's always a good idea
06:25 < precise> I've never had an employer offer me 401k
06:25 < precise> :/
06:25 < precise> Apparently my old employer had it
06:25 < precise> But the benefit was dropped shortly before my arrival
06:25 < DeVito> rip
06:25 < DeVito> My employer matches up to 5% match to my 8%
06:25 < DeVito> It's lovely
06:25 <+NinjaStyle> nice
06:26 <+NinjaStyle> my old job did 6%
06:26 <+NinjaStyle> i miss that
06:26 < DeVito> I put 10% in, for 15% of gross income
06:26 < DeVito> And I also put some into Roth, and investments, because why not be one of the cool boring kids
06:26  * MillerBOSS is listening to Loverboy — Turn Me Loose, from the album Platinum 80's Hits
06:26 < precise> Speaking of money
06:26 <+MillerBOSS> DrGibby| 👉 at 11:30, you wimp
06:26 < precise> I discovered I'm getting a $750 fed refund this year
06:27 <+NinjaStyle> DeVito: nice
06:27 < DeVito> Ooh, thanks for reminding me to check my refund
06:27 < precise> My main employer last year musta been doing something wrong
06:27 <+NinjaStyle> iirc you make pretty good money right?
06:27 < DeVito> I might have waited a bit long to file
06:27 < DeVito> NinjaStyle, yeah, I manage
06:27 < DeVito> I didn't file taxes until the 12th :<
06:27 < DeVito> I'm a bad person
06:28 <+NinjaStyle> im paying this year
06:28 < DeVito> Oof, I hate worrying about that
06:29 <@JollyRgrs> wait, what? the giving tree was banned for being sexist? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5uD3OqvGe0
06:29 <+layer-eight> YouTube Caught on Tape-Teens Read Banned Books-The Giving Tree by 2013-09-30T16:30:51.000Z (duration: 50s) on Mon Sep 30 23:30:51 UTC 2013, 2013-09-30T16:30:51.000Z views
06:29 < sedition> i think after this year i should be close to zero
06:29 <@JollyRgrs> wow
06:29 < precise> JollyRgrs: Is The Giving Tree currently under copyright?
06:30 < czarbomba> found a photo of newly-weeaboo'd gencade: https://i.imgur.com/8QA2Ox6.jpg
06:30 < precise> YouTube has been cracking down on people making videos of them reading books, violates Copyrights.
06:30 < czarbomba> it's just a really really long passage for fair use
06:30 < Gencade> czarbomba, thanks but I'd like to think I look like bubbles
06:31 <@JollyRgrs> precise: this was about the book being banned at the library for their school or something
06:31 < precise> JollyRgrs: Ok, now I'm confused...
06:31 < voidstar> I got sent to room 101 in high school for reading animal farm
06:31 < precise> Oh
06:31 < precise> I thought you meant banned from YouTube
06:31 < precise> Derp
06:31 <@JollyRgrs> voidstar: what?
06:32 <@JollyRgrs> that was req. reading for me in... like 9th grade i think?
06:32 < voidstar> 1984 reference
06:32 < precise> JollyRgrs: Same
06:32 <@JollyRgrs> i might have actually finished the book since it was so short
06:32 <@JollyRgrs> but normally i never finished a book
06:32 <@JollyRgrs> sparknotes.com was fairly new and VERY helpful
06:32 < precise> I'm 99% sure there is precedent for banning books in public schools being illegal
06:32 <+NinjaStyle> DeVito: youre 6 fig right?
06:32 < DeVito> Not by a ton, but yes
06:33 <+NinjaStyle> i have been thinking about roth, but i wanna max 401k first
06:33 < precise> NinjaStyle: Invest in bitcoin
06:33 < precise> It's not too late
06:33 < DeVito> precise pls
06:34 < precise> lol
06:34 < precise> Bitcoin based 401k pls
06:34 <+NinjaStyle> plz no
06:34 < sedition> 401k->roth->index
06:35 <+NinjaStyle> im doing better than most with retirement investment and i still dont feel like i'm in a good place
06:35 < sedition> debt before all those other things
06:37 <+NinjaStyle> i have about 50k in retirement saving
06:37 <+NinjaStyle> i need to consolidate it
06:37 < precise> into dogecoin
06:37 < precise> rite?
06:38 <+NinjaStyle> lol
06:38 < mkillebrew> yeee, cancelled my fucking Adobe account for fucking Creative Commons
06:38 < voidstar> garlic coin seems to be outperforming dogecoin currently
06:38 < mkillebrew> or whatever, creative cloud?
06:41 < Church-> Neat, ChromeOS66 is dropping in two days.
06:44 < Gencade> fuck botnetOS
06:44 < precise> We are all compromised
06:44 < mkillebrew> when did we start talking about ddwrt?
06:45 < precise> The only way to escape is to exist as a subterratiary species
06:45 < Gencade> can we talk about something productivfe
06:45  * precise has been watching to much Star Trek
06:45 < Gencade> like... anime
06:45 < precise> No
06:45 < Gencade> :(
06:45 < voidstar> we can talk about how spock was able to mind meld with a rock
06:45 < ekym> no such thing as too much trek
06:47 < precise> ekym: I've watched 5 episodes today
06:47 < precise> ToS
06:47 < precise> I'm currently on Season 2
06:47 <@JollyRgrs> trek is boring
06:47 < precise> begon thot
06:48 < voidstar> trek>stargate>*
06:50 <@JollyRgrs> meh
06:50 <@JollyRgrs> trek made too much of some boring stuff
06:50 <@JollyRgrs> my old roommates would watch all the diff ST shows
06:50 <@JollyRgrs> like that one with the stupid bar tender that wouldn't shut up...
06:50 <@JollyRgrs> quark or something?
06:50 <@JollyRgrs> just annoying
06:50 < precise> ur annoying
06:51 < precise> and a red shirt
06:51 < precise> u red shirt
06:51 < Gencade> fucking rekt
06:51 < Gencade> fuck red shirts
06:51 < voidstar> ToS should have been it for trek, I agree just like stargate should have stopped after its original series
06:51 <@JollyRgrs> precise: i ain't no red shirt, i ain't that dumb
06:51 < precise> voidstar: Eh, TNG was ok
06:51 < precise> JollyRgrs: u sure?
06:51 < precise> cuz I don't think u r
06:51 < ekym> I liked the girl in the red dress, her only job was to look good walking in the back ground
06:51 < precise> lol
06:51 <@JollyRgrs> precise: no, i'm not sure i'm that not dumb
06:52 < precise> Well at least your logical
06:52 <@JollyRgrs> maybe i'm too dumb
06:52 <@JollyRgrs> never made it into star fleet in the first place
06:52 < precise> Also, 1920's mobster Spock is best Spock
06:52 < voidstar> precise, yeah late 80s early 90s had some good tv in general lol
06:52 <@JollyRgrs> i liked seaworld ST
06:52 < voidstar> so bad, but so good
06:52 <@JollyRgrs> b/c they went to sea world
06:53 < Gencade> JollyRgrs, you make me want to exterminate all sysadmins
06:53 <@JollyRgrs> wait, now you're pulling from dr. who?
06:53 < precise> s/sysadmins/red shirts
06:53 <+layer-eight> Gencade meant: "JollyRgrs, you make me want to exterminate all red shirts"
06:56 < precise> So I've got like, a Canadian-metric shitton of wood to burn
06:56 < precise> Stuff I've pulled out of my backyard bushes and trees
06:56 < precise> And a tiny little firepit
06:56 < czarbomba> what's the difference between a canadian-metric shitton and a regular metric shitton
06:56 < precise> Is canadian
06:56 < precise> duh
06:56 < voidstar> s/duh/eh
06:56 <+layer-eight> precise meant: "eh"
06:57 < Gencade> ayyyyy
06:57 < precise> lmeho
06:58 < precise> It's gonna rain all day tomorrow, so possibly no fire or yard work
06:59 < sedition> mmm popcorn
07:02 < precise> Welp
07:02 < precise> I'mma hit the hay
07:02 < precise> night all
07:07 < sedition> nn
07:09 < czarbomba> they're going to get precise while he sleeps :(
07:14 < rkeene> I have a few more hours before  I need to start working, anything cool I should do in Seoul first ?
07:14 <+NinjaStyle> rkeene: yoo
07:14 < rkeene> NinjaStyle, Sup ?
07:15 <+NinjaStyle> hey, do you know ny good resources on smart card stuff
07:15 <@JollyRgrs> have they blown up the olympic stadium yet?
07:15 <+NinjaStyle> rkeene: can a smart card serve a public key as well as store a private key?
07:15 < rkeene> NinjaStyle, Yes... But there's lots of stuff :-P
07:15 <+NinjaStyle> rkeene: the more technical the better
07:16 < rkeene> NinjaStyle, Yes, in fact, they would be represented by two seperate objects when presented over PKCS#11
07:16 < rkeene> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javacard/javacard1-139251.html
07:16 <+NinjaStyle> so i am working with acos 6 cards
07:17 < rkeene> Do you already have an applet on it, or are you making a new applet ?
07:17 <+NinjaStyle> or rather, i am trying to recommend a patch to an existing system poorly implementing smart card auth
07:18 < Church-> rkeene: Watcha in Seoul first?
07:18 < rkeene> Church-, Work
07:18 < Church-> Heh, fair enough.
07:18 < rkeene> NinjaStyle, What do you mean ?
07:18 <+NinjaStyle> rkeene: it is really hard to explain under my NDA
07:19 <+NinjaStyle> but basically the client fucked up smart card auth
07:19 <+NinjaStyle> and its in an airgapped environment, which complicates the keys a little bit
07:21 <@JollyRgrs> NinjaStyle: we can't really help until you tell us the client you are working for/with
07:21 <@JollyRgrs> i mean, srsly, how do you expect us to help you
07:21 < mkillebrew> maybe he doesn't
07:21 < mkillebrew> what if he just wants to bitch a bit, nothing wrong with that
07:23 < rkeene> I bought a new phone, takes forever to set it up
07:24 <+NinjaStyle> JollyRgrs: nice try
07:24 <@JollyRgrs> :P
07:24 <@JollyRgrs> i could care less, tbh
07:24 < Gencade> Why do people say "I could care less"
07:24 < Gencade> Like shouldn't it be couldn't
07:25 <+NinjaStyle> i know, but i could get in srs trouble if i overshare publicly so i need to be careful
07:25 <@JollyRgrs> i could care less though
07:25 <@JollyRgrs> i care enough to joke about it, but don't care enough to really prod
07:25 <@JollyRgrs> NinjaStyle: that's why i'm not pushin, i'm just making fun
07:25 <+NinjaStyle> i just want to make sure i have a techically sound recommendation
07:25 <+NinjaStyle> and rkeene is smart af
07:26 < rkeene> You know how I do
07:26 <+NinjaStyle> i really wanted my company to be not retarded and hire you
07:27 < rkeene> Did they try ?  I can't remember
07:27 <+NinjaStyle> they wanted you to relo
07:27 <+NinjaStyle> i told them no and they said that wouldnt work =/
07:27 < rkeene> :-D
07:33 < Gencade> fuck you DrGibby|
07:34 < mkillebrew> if you could care less, you could care quite a lot
07:34 <@JollyRgrs> mkillebrew: so it really doesn't give you any indication other than i don't care the least i could possibly care
07:35 < mkillebrew> It means the opposite of what is generally intended
07:35 < mkillebrew> "I don't care" means you care none, if you could care less, you must care at least some, but it might be quite a good deal
07:36 <@JollyRgrs> mkillebrew: you are an astute observer
07:36 <@JollyRgrs> it is one of my fav. lines to use
07:36 < Church-> Speaking of gigs, I forgot the part I hate the most, waiting to find out if the interview went well and you're moving forward.
07:36 <@JollyRgrs> personally knowing that it is pretty much as vague as possible
07:36 < voidstar> ~(x<0) === x>0, which could be an infinite number of cares
07:36 < mkillebrew> other than being inaccurate, it's ambiguous
07:36 < Church-> Man, I want some speed tbh.
07:36 < Church-> Damn good thing I can't get any.
07:36 < mkillebrew> now we have no idea how much you care, except we know you do
07:36 < voidstar> x>=0 *
07:36 < Gencade> I hate everyone
07:37 <@JollyRgrs> mkillebrew: that's the catch, isn't it?
07:37 <@JollyRgrs> it isn't inaccurate
07:37 < mkillebrew> your face is inaccurate.
07:37 <@JollyRgrs> it isn't very accurate
07:37 <@JollyRgrs> but it is not wrong
07:37 < mkillebrew> what it is is imprecise
07:38 < mkillebrew> and wrong
07:38 <@JollyRgrs> not wrong
07:38 <@JollyRgrs> imprecise, yes
07:38 <@JollyRgrs> but not wrong
07:39 <@JollyRgrs> for pointing out the issues of using "i could care less"... you sure aren't very wrong
07:39 <@JollyRgrs> :P
07:39 < czarbomba> i could care less. i simply choose not to.
07:39 < mkillebrew> adobe charged me to cancel my CC subscription
07:40 < sedition> i guess that answers one of my questions about getting cc for the wife
07:40 < mkillebrew> willingly paid to be rid of them
07:41 < catbeard> easier to freeze the card
07:43 < mkillebrew> sedition: CC for which programs
07:43 < sedition> mkillebrew: idk probably just photoshop
07:45 < mkillebrew> I found myself using that less and less, mostly lightroom, which I replaced with Capture One
08:07 <@JollyRgrs> you know, i don't care which side you are on... but there's one thing i'm not very happy with in terms of gays in hollywood
08:07 <@JollyRgrs> there's much more penis in movies and tv shows than there used to be
08:08 <@JollyRgrs> LOL
08:09 <@JollyRgrs> but sam jack talking about his big black "dingus" is pretty funny
08:09 < mkillebrew> so... there's more penis in movies, or specifically gay penis?
08:09 <@JollyRgrs> just penis in general
08:10 < mkillebrew> what's that have to do with gays
08:10 <@JollyRgrs> but in the last 5 years or so
08:10 <@JollyRgrs> mkillebrew: straight dude wouldn't be putting a bunch of penis and no boobs in movies
08:10 < Brometheus> does anyone here have there CCNA?
08:10 <@JollyRgrs> is that the basic one?
08:11 < mkillebrew> You know there's another gender, too, right?
08:11 <@JollyRgrs> mkillebrew: lol, i know
08:11 < mkillebrew> representing roughly half of the population that goes to movies
08:11 <@JollyRgrs> but women weren't screaming (out loud) "i want more cock in movies"
08:11 < Brometheus> are we having  LGBQT meeting in here?
08:11 < mkillebrew> and is there really more penis in movies? I haven't noticed that trend, maybe you're just wanting to see more penis so you think you do.
08:11 < Brometheus> or are we talking about sys admin lifestyle
08:11 < Brometheus> THE WAY OF THE SYS ADMIN
08:12 <@JollyRgrs> mkillebrew: watching hateful 8 right now
08:12 < Brometheus> Oh
08:12 < Gencade> s/SYS/sex
08:12 <+layer-eight> Brometheus meant: "THE WAY OF THE sex ADMIN"
08:12 < Brometheus> Lol
08:12 <+NinjaStyle> theres def more penis in tv
08:12 < Brometheus> dude i work in a hospital
08:12 < Brometheus> with lots of women
08:12 <@JollyRgrs>  i watched "game over man" (netflix movie" on a plane... not knowing all the dick in that movie (although it was as comedy)
08:12 < Brometheus> and i fix their "hardware"
08:12 <@JollyRgrs> Brometheus: i used to work in a hospital
08:12 < mkillebrew> Does nudity offend you that much?
08:12 < Brometheus> yes
08:12 < Brometheus> jolly why'd u leave?
08:12 < Brometheus> did you bang atleast one person there?
08:12 < Brometheus> Lol
08:13 <@JollyRgrs> Brometheus: no, i was married
08:13 < Brometheus> agh
08:13 <@JollyRgrs> didn't stop others though :/
08:13 < Brometheus> no
08:13 < Brometheus> i see married women
08:13 < Brometheus> getting tube steaked all the time
08:13 <@JollyRgrs> i'm sure
08:13 <@JollyRgrs> i was at a univ. hospital
08:13 <@JollyRgrs> lots of residents :)
08:13 < Brometheus> im at a private one
08:13 < Brometheus> lol
08:13 <@JollyRgrs> some of them were SMOKIN
08:13 < Brometheus> yea
08:13 < Brometheus> i bet
08:13 <@JollyRgrs> and i mean that in the no smoking campus kind of a way
08:13 < Brometheus> i've seen some smoke shows
08:14 < Brometheus> I work helpdesk and support
08:14 <@JollyRgrs> dude in my office was responsible for taking care of laptops for this group that always had the hot ones
08:14 < mkillebrew> Apparently there's some gay agenda to put more penis in movies, I must have not read the latest copy they sent out.
08:14 < Brometheus> so i have every excuse to be anywhere i want to be me
08:14 <@JollyRgrs> we'd say "don't thank us, just bake us some cookies"
08:14 < Brometheus> Lol
08:14 < catbeard> penises? in my movies?
08:14 <@JollyRgrs> we actually got cookies sometimes
08:14 < Brometheus> LOL
08:14 <@JollyRgrs> mkillebrew: you get the gay agenda mailed to you?
08:14 < Brometheus> Jolly what did you do ?
08:14 < mkillebrew> Why wouldn't I?
08:14 < Brometheus> are you back end
08:15 < Brometheus> or front end
08:15 < Brometheus> or were you the bottom
08:15 < Brometheus> ;)
08:15 < czarbomba> s/the /the power
08:15 <+layer-eight> Brometheus meant: "or were you the powerbottom"
08:15 <@JollyRgrs> Brometheus: i'm always on the giving end, my wife can't really give, only receive.... cept head, she can do both :P
08:16 < Brometheus> lol
08:16 < Brometheus> man
08:16 < Brometheus> i want to be a sys admin so badly
08:17 < voidstar> fake it till you make it
08:17 <@JollyRgrs> Brometheus: does your company often have sysadmin openings?
08:17 < Brometheus> hell no
08:17 < Brometheus> my sys admin is a cronie
08:17 <@JollyRgrs> then i'd suggest looking for a new job where you can do that
08:17 < Brometheus> yea
08:17 < Brometheus> why are you saying ppl have a tendency to stay in positions?
08:18 <@JollyRgrs> we talkin about work or sex?
08:18 < Brometheus> work
08:18 < Brometheus> lol
08:18 <@JollyRgrs> if there's no upward mobility at your job, you are also at a dead end until you leave
08:18 <@JollyRgrs> you think having 1 more yr of exp. as a desktop tech will help you with your first sysadmin hiring?
08:18 < Brometheus> nope
08:19 < Brometheus> my job has caused me a lot of personal turmoil
08:19 < Brometheus> bosses lied . no upward mobility
08:19 < Brometheus> no experience
08:20 < Brometheus> other than help desk
08:20 < Brometheus> and.
08:20 < Brometheus> i have to work 2:30PM to 11PM
08:20 <@JollyRgrs> better find a new place
08:20 < Brometheus> but why though?
08:20 < Brometheus> its 20 min from my house
08:20 <@JollyRgrs> you wanna be desktop tech for life?
08:20 < Brometheus> i get benefits and 26.5 an hour
08:20 < Brometheus> no but im only 27
08:20 < Brometheus> i can do this for a cpl of more years or so
08:20 < mkillebrew> so shut up and be happy with it, or find better elsewhere
08:20 < Brometheus> yea
08:21 <@JollyRgrs> Brometheus: only 27?
08:21 < Brometheus> need to get the girl first
08:21 < mkillebrew> but shut up either way
08:21 < Brometheus> im 27 dude im old
08:21 < Brometheus> and im still doing desktop support
08:21 < Brometheus> i have a vmware cert
08:21 < Brometheus> and im getting my ccna
08:21 < Brometheus> then either my Linux+ or MCSA
08:21 < Brometheus> things are looking aright
08:21 < Brometheus> but I can't wait to be a sys admin
08:21 < mkillebrew> oh... microsoft grossness
08:22 <@JollyRgrs> Brometheus: i'm not knockin bein 27 and desktop tech... i'm just sayin, you've already got a lot of time that has passed
08:22 < catbeard> you say that now
08:22 < catbeard> 17k support tickets later\
08:22 <@JollyRgrs> you'll be 40 and desktop tech with your current attitude
08:22 < Brometheus> shit
08:22 < Brometheus> what are you saying being 27 and a desktop is bad?
08:22 <@JollyRgrs> i spent 8 yrs at geek squad thinking i wasn't good enough to do more
08:22 < catbeard> you're a desktop
08:22 <@JollyRgrs> i'm trying to make sure others don't make the same mistakes
08:22 < Brometheus> wait
08:22 < Gencade> catbeard, you're a laptop
08:22 < Brometheus> are you saying at 27 being a desktop support guy is bad?
08:22 <@JollyRgrs> no
08:22 < catbeard> aye
08:22 < mkillebrew> yes
08:22 < Gencade> yes
08:22 < catbeard> playing LoL ARAM on mine
08:23 <@JollyRgrs> i'm saying your attitude of no urgency to move up is
08:23 < Brometheus> yea3
08:23 < catbeard> what's the rush
08:23 < Brometheus> no rush really
08:23 < mkillebrew> you're terrible and so is your job.
08:23 < catbeard> IT Management is fun *rolls eyes*
08:23 < Brometheus> Lol
08:23 < Brometheus> i wanna take my sweet ass time
08:23 < Brometheus> rack up some serious skill
08:23 < Brometheus> and then leave
08:23 < Gencade> I mean go ahead and stay in desktop if you like
08:24 < Gencade> less competition for the rest of us
08:24 < Brometheus> lol
08:24 < mkillebrew> whatever floats your boat, wallow in your mediocracy for all I care
08:24 < catbeard> neteng/syseng ftw
08:24 <@JollyRgrs> Brometheus: i've seen a few people desktop tech... 20 yrs of service
08:24 < Brometheus> just a second though
08:24 <@JollyRgrs> congrats! you made it!
08:24 < Brometheus> at age 27 . with  no college degree.
08:25 < Brometheus> and a secure full time job
08:25 < Brometheus> for 56k
08:25 < Brometheus> you guys are saying thats bad?
08:25 <@JollyRgrs> i have no college degree about to jump over the 6 figure mark
08:25 < Gencade> it's mediocre
08:25 < mkillebrew> could be better, yes
08:25 < catbeard> employers want someone with 30 years of exp, 20 years of school, and at the rate they'd pay a 20 year old
08:25 < Brometheus> LOL
08:25 <@JollyRgrs> i shoulda been here about 5-6 yrs ago had i left geek squad sooner
08:25 < Brometheus> jolly how old r u
08:25 < mkillebrew> you could be selling meth under a bridge though, so it oculd be worse.
08:25 < catbeard> af
08:25 <@JollyRgrs> old enough
08:25 < catbeard> old enough to give catbeard +v
08:26 < catbeard> i'll permit you this once
08:26 < mkillebrew> but if you want to compare your life to dealing meth next to a pit of vagrant feces... ehhhh
08:26 < catbeard> 60s til ARAM then bbs
08:26 <@JollyRgrs> Brometheus: you plan on ever getting married and having kids?
08:27 < catbeard> fork()
08:27 < Brometheus> yea y?
08:27 <@JollyRgrs> you wanna be 60 when you have your first kid?
08:27 < Brometheus> lol
08:27 < Brometheus> why do u say that?
08:27 <@JollyRgrs> just answer question
08:27 < Brometheus> no
08:27 < Brometheus> hell no
08:27 < catbeard> long as he ain't gotta squeeze it out
08:27 <@JollyRgrs> so you understand that there's some reason to try and advance things at a certain pace (even if there is some variance)
08:28 < Brometheus> yea
08:28 <@JollyRgrs> your current attitude towards moving up at work... you'll be "having your kid at 60"
08:28 < Brometheus> yea
08:28 < Brometheus> your right
08:28 < Brometheus> okay i get your point
08:28 < mkillebrew> what's all this focus on kids and blaming gays for penis in movies, are you a mormon?
08:28 <@JollyRgrs> it took a broad sweeping layoff at geek squad for me to wake up and realize the issue
08:29 < catbeard> before or after they got caught using unlicensed ERD
08:29 <@JollyRgrs> mkillebrew: nope, i have no issue with caffeine... although since they bought stock in pepsi, they don't either anymore
08:29 <@JollyRgrs> catbeard: before and after
08:29 <@JollyRgrs> but at least we weren't firedog using geek squad tools
08:29 <@JollyRgrs> also, no one used ERD anymore, we had better
08:29 < catbeard> :\
08:29 <+NinjaStyle> Brometheus: were the same age :O
08:29 <@JollyRgrs> but some still kept CDs around and refused to stop using
08:29 < catbeard> "no!"
08:29 < catbeard> "sue me first"
08:29 < Church-> mkillebrew: Way to be a shite cunt mate. So what if he takes his time, let the man lead his own life.
08:29 < Brometheus> ninja what do u do?
08:30 <+NinjaStyle> Brometheus: pentester
08:30 < Church-> catbeard: Here, here fellow eng.
08:30 < catbeard> fuck that get dat money
08:30 < Brometheus> are u making $$$?
08:30 < Brometheus> and did u go to college?
08:30 < catbeard> Church-: si
08:30 <+NinjaStyle> Brometheus: went, yes. graduated. no
08:30 < Brometheus> where are u based
08:30 < mkillebrew> Church-: I said I didn't care what he did, whatever makes him happy
08:30 <+NinjaStyle> denver
08:30 < Brometheus> damn thats awesome.
08:30 < Brometheus> how do i get into pen testing?
08:30 <+NinjaStyle> luck
08:30 < Brometheus> lol
08:30 <+NinjaStyle> lol
08:30 < catbeard> buy some pens first
08:30 < Brometheus> with my luck ill get into desktop support
08:31 < mkillebrew> Church-: it's that other cunt that wants him to do things
08:31 < Brometheus> dude do you get paid over 6 figures
08:31 < Church-> I'm hearkening back to "wallowing in mediocracy." Sounds a bit cunty.
08:31 < catbeard> including the decimal?
08:31 < mkillebrew> it is what it is
08:31 <+NinjaStyle> i am at exactly the minimum 6 fig salary
08:31 <@JollyRgrs> Brometheus: as in config mgmt? like SCCM and the likes? because usually "desktop support" is just what you are doing now
08:31 < mkillebrew> but he's welcome to it
08:31 <@JollyRgrs> or are you phone support and not even deskside
08:31 < catbeard> ah windows
08:31 < Church-> Eh fair enough. I don't care enough to be a bleeding heart.
08:31 < catbeard> what i like to call job security
08:31 < mkillebrew> You did a few minutes ago
08:32 < Church-> Watcha up to catbeard? Ever get that bot written?
08:32 < Brometheus> 100K?
08:32 < Brometheus> how does that feel . the 100k
08:32 < catbeard> no, but i've been writing some python
08:32 < Church-> mkillebrew: Yeah well my capacity to care ran out rather quick. :P
08:32 < Gencade> Brometheus, taxed to hell
08:32 <+NinjaStyle> Brometheus: it never feels like enough
08:32 < catbeard> mostly to analyze domlogs
08:32 < Brometheus> Lol
08:32 < Brometheus> in that case .
08:32 <@JollyRgrs> Brometheus: when you get married and have kids? it's min. wage
08:32 < Brometheus> i think i settle for keeping my job
08:32 < Brometheus> 56k is good enough
08:32 < Brometheus> ill just get with a nurse
08:32 < Brometheus> and bam 140K together
08:32 < Church-> Uh
08:32 < Gencade> If you have that attitude, then that's sad
08:32 < Gencade> Have some ambition
08:33 < catbeard> baby let's get married for financial stability
08:33 < Church-> How much do you think nurses make?
08:33 < catbeard> that's a charmer
08:33 < Brometheus> 84k+
08:33 <+NinjaStyle> Brometheus: in honesty i had to work pretty hard to get in to pentesting, and i had almost perfect timing
08:33 <@JollyRgrs> Church-: not enough to pay their college debt
08:33 < Church-> ... what land is this?
08:33 < Church-> JollyRgrs: Eyep.
08:33 < Brometheus> what kind of skills did you have to acquire?
08:33 < Brometheus> Kali linux? Python?
08:33 < Church-> catbeard: Should join the channel for it. Need to get on ssl finally however.
08:33 <+NinjaStyle> Brometheus: sysadmin skills, yes kali, yes python
08:34 <+NinjaStyle> i got OSCP
08:34 <+NinjaStyle> before i got hired
08:34 < Church-> Need to learn wrench based hash breaking.
08:34 < Church-> Very important.
08:34 < Brometheus> Damn
08:34 < Brometheus> How did you get the OSCP did your employer pay for it?
08:34 <+NinjaStyle> yeah
08:34 <+NinjaStyle> i asked to take it and they approved it
08:35 < Brometheus> im going the vmware route
08:35 < Brometheus> and honestly im going to get the training from global knowledge
08:35 < Brometheus> and leave
08:35 < catbeard> just invite me to one Church-
08:35 < catbeard> in ARAM atm
08:35 < catbeard> brb
08:35 <+NinjaStyle> if i was still doing sysadmin stuff i would be cramming AWS certs
08:35 < Brometheus> did u ever do helpdesk?
08:35 <+NinjaStyle> yeah
08:36 < Brometheus> for how long though
08:36 < Church-> catbeard: ARAM?
08:36 <+NinjaStyle> even as a sysadmin i was always a point of escalation for helpdesk
08:36 < Brometheus> yea
08:36 < Brometheus> of course. our sys admin deals with that as well
08:36 < catbeard> LoL
08:36 < catbeard> NinjaStyle: same
08:36 <@JollyRgrs> helpdesk is a great experience. i know some skip it, but i believe they are missing out
08:36 <+NinjaStyle> but i worked as an on-site tech for about 3 years, overlapping some with trasitioning to sysadmin
08:36 <@JollyRgrs> i don't diss working desktop support
08:36 <@JollyRgrs> i just don't want anyone who WANTS to move up... to sit there for way too long rotting away
08:37 <+NinjaStyle> i was a "tier 2 technician" working as a site tech and being the AD and vmware admin
08:37 <+NinjaStyle> then they finally fixed my title
08:37 <@JollyRgrs> NinjaStyle: what's that you say? you were a tier 2 tech that kinda wormed his way into sysadmin to get some sysad experience?
08:37 < Brometheus> when did you start ninja? what age?
08:38 < Brometheus> oh damn
08:38 <+NinjaStyle> Brometheus: 18
08:38 < Brometheus> Thats why
08:38 < Brometheus> you know when i started IT?
08:38 <+NinjaStyle> JollyRgrs: yeah basically
08:38 < Brometheus> age 25
08:38 < Brometheus> ive been working only for about actually 2 years
08:38 < Brometheus> 3 years*
08:38 <+NinjaStyle> JollyRgrs: we migrated from novell to AD and i crammed so much MS material
08:38 < Brometheus> if i started at 18 id be making atleast 150k
08:38 <+NinjaStyle> so i was the SME for the migration
08:38 <@JollyRgrs> lol
08:39 <@JollyRgrs> Brometheus: not necessarily
08:39 < Brometheus> well
08:39 <+NinjaStyle> 150 is hard to get to
08:39 < Brometheus> i'd consider the amount of certifications i have
08:39 < Brometheus> by the time im 27
08:39 < Brometheus> and working in NYC
08:39 < Brometheus> hedge funds, banks will pay that much
08:39 < Brometheus> 150k is like a mid level role for a hedge fund
08:39 <+NinjaStyle> oh well in NYC yeah
08:40 <@JollyRgrs> 27 in NYC? 150 k is like 90k elsewhere
08:40 < Brometheus> yea
08:40 <+NinjaStyle> i just wanna go to texas where the living is cheap
08:40 <+NinjaStyle> and be rich there
08:41 <@JollyRgrs> Brometheus: so 55k in NYC is like... 34k in normal parts of the US
08:41 <+NinjaStyle> i dont think i could do NYC
08:41 < Gencade> Live in missouri
08:41 <+NinjaStyle> Gencade: D:
08:41 < Gencade> Stupid cheap in Springfield MO
08:41 < Brometheus> yea
08:41 < Brometheus> well i don't live in the city
08:41 <+NinjaStyle> Gencade: ive been there though
08:41 < Brometheus> im nearby it
08:41 < Gencade> NinjaStyle, come around for a beer sometime
08:42 <+NinjaStyle> Gencade: youre in springfield?
08:42 < Gencade> Yeah
08:42 < Holo> https://images.meguca.org/assets/images//src/5a47b7fdb5e075c3c40523bc3507d5a8976c2b3c.jpg
08:42 < Brometheus> dude getting resource to study for any GIAC cert
08:42 < Brometheus> is tough
08:42 <+NinjaStyle> Brometheus: my wife has been doing the giac stuff
08:43 <+NinjaStyle> Gencade: thats the part i havent been to
08:43 < Brometheus> yea if you have GIAC over here in the east coast
08:43 <+NinjaStyle> Gencade: i have been to KC and STL
08:43 < Brometheus> that's serious money
08:43 < Gencade> KC and STL wew
08:43 <+NinjaStyle> Brometheus: just buy the books on ebay
08:43 <+NinjaStyle> Brometheus: then you can test out and save some money
08:44 < Brometheus> yea
08:44 <+NinjaStyle> Gencade: yeah stl sucks
08:44 < Brometheus> dude i think with the position im in . i barely work. only 3-4 hours a day
08:44 < Brometheus> and the rest i have time to study
08:44 <+NinjaStyle> Brometheus: that is good and bad, if youre disciplined its great
08:45 < Brometheus> i am very discplined. and when i get the ball rolling. it rolls pretty fast
08:45 <+NinjaStyle> if you arent, its better to have a job youre busy at so you can get that xp
08:45 <+NinjaStyle> thats good
08:45 < Brometheus> yea but my life circumstances have changed where I have to keep this job
08:45 < Brometheus> in the mean time
08:45 < Brometheus> I will be focused on getting my ccna, learning python, trying to go for the OSCP
08:45 < Brometheus> im going to do some research on it
08:45 < Brometheus> brb
08:45 <+NinjaStyle> oscp is no joke
08:46 <+NinjaStyle> i had some coworkers fail like 3+ times
08:46 <+NinjaStyle> on a 24 hour exam that is brutal
08:46 < Brometheus> what is the cost if you dont mind me asking?
08:47 <+NinjaStyle> its relatively low, i think like 2-3k
08:47 <+NinjaStyle> depends how much lab time you buy
08:47 < Brometheus> where can i get study material for this
08:47 <+NinjaStyle> you cant
08:47 < Brometheus> i looked on ebay using OSCP as the search term
08:47 <+NinjaStyle> you could get the giac gpen books as a primer
08:48 < Brometheus> ok
08:48 <+NinjaStyle> but its a practical exam and the pool for the exam lab is like 30 different machines
08:48 <+NinjaStyle> so you just need to know what your doing
08:48 <+NinjaStyle> when you buy the OSCP you get the course
08:49 <+NinjaStyle> which is called PWK. it includes a lab of 50 machines you get to hack
08:49 <+NinjaStyle> so if you murder the lab youd have no problem in the exam
08:49 < Brometheus> :D
08:49 < Brometheus> sounds like fun
08:49 <+NinjaStyle> it was super fun
08:49 < The_Dv8or> sup
08:50 < Brometheus> wow this SANs security stuff is not cheap on ebay
08:50 < Brometheus> its like 300$ per piece
08:50 <+NinjaStyle> yeah, still cheaper than paying 6k for the SANS class
08:50 < Brometheus> lol
08:50 < Brometheus> a bit outdated as well
08:50 < Brometheus> so basically
08:51 < Brometheus> usign the GIAC material (study for a year or so)
08:51 < Brometheus> buy the OSCP and taking the labs
08:51 < Brometheus> then take the test
08:51 < Brometheus> if i have the OSCP im probally going to be guaranteed a job
08:51 <+NinjaStyle> i passed OSCP and less than 2 months later quit my sysadmin job
08:51 <+NinjaStyle> because i was like wtf i hate this job
08:51 <@JollyRgrs> lol
08:52 < Brometheus> Ninja can i post a link in here?
08:52 < Brometheus> just want you to take a look at this
08:52 <+NinjaStyle> from ebay?
08:52 < Brometheus> yea
08:52 < Brometheus> SANS Security GIAC (GCIH) SEC504 Hacking Techniques and Incident Handling (2016)
08:52 < Brometheus> Thats the title
08:52 < Brometheus> 6 binded books . 300$
08:52 <+NinjaStyle> ah GCIH is a good one
08:52 <+NinjaStyle> but its for incident handling
08:53 < Brometheus> Mouse over to Zoom
08:53 < Brometheus> -
08:53 < Brometheus> Click to enlarge
08:53 < Brometheus> Have one to sell? Sell now
08:53 < Brometheus> Details about
08:53 < Brometheus> SANS SEC503 Intrusion Detection In-Depth 2017 + USB
08:53 < Brometheus> thats another one
08:53 < Brometheus> and its 250!
08:53 < Brometheus> only 1 bid lol
08:53 <@JollyRgrs> i'm pretty sure "Click to enlarge" is not the book you'd want
08:53 <@JollyRgrs> well. not for the exam you speak of
08:53 <@JollyRgrs> that's more of a NinjaStyle fetish
08:53 < Brometheus> SANS SEC503 Intrusion Detection In-Depth 2017 + USB
08:54 <+NinjaStyle> Brometheus: well gpen is sans sec560
08:55 < Brometheus> ok
08:55 < Brometheus> i found one from 2015
08:55 < Brometheus> im sure the year matters but is 2015  too late
08:56 <+NinjaStyle> its not gonna change a ton year to year probably, but obv the newer the better
08:56 < Brometheus> awesome i found one from 2016 for 500$
08:56 < Brometheus> im going to buy this one when i get the chance
08:57 < Brometheus> after i get my oscp
08:58 < Brometheus> im going to go to CTO's office
08:58 < Brometheus> and punch in his face
08:58 < Brometheus> and leave
08:58 <+NinjaStyle> nice
08:58 < Brometheus> Lol
08:58 < Brometheus> thats what i would love to do
08:58 < Brometheus> but i know ill get in trouble
08:59 < Brometheus> so Ill get this kit for 500 bucks
08:59 < Brometheus> study it mainly after i finish the CCNA
08:59 < voidstar> just get in his face, intimidate him and leave. no need to pick up an assault charge
08:59 < Brometheus> yea
08:59 < Brometheus> I am about to get a misdemeanor charge anyway
08:59 < Brometheus> got charged with a dwi . i had my first one dropped to a dwai which is a traffic violation
08:59 < Brometheus> so
09:00 < Brometheus> sucks ass dad but hey ill still get a job
09:00 < Brometheus> lol
09:00 < Brometheus> anyone here work from 2:30PM to 11PM?
09:01 <+NinjaStyle> the australians
09:01 < Brometheus> lol
09:01 < Brometheus> ive been doing the 2nd shift for 2 years now
09:01 < Brometheus> sucks balls
09:01 <+NinjaStyle> that means you can get a modafinil prescription
09:02 < Brometheus> what is that?
09:02 < Brometheus> lol
09:02 < Brometheus> oh wait
09:02 < Brometheus> i just found it lol
09:03 <+NinjaStyle> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zcrb1ff1xs
09:03 <+layer-eight> YouTube Walk Hard You Don't Want None of This by 2008-06-17T02:13:31.000Z (duration: 3:39) on Tue Jun 17 09:13:31 UTC 2008, 2008-06-17T02:13:31.000Z views
09:03 < Brometheus> ninja
09:03 < Brometheus> so after i buy the books. im going to study
09:03 < Brometheus> how long do you think it will take
09:03 <+NinjaStyle> it depends how fast you can take it all in =/
09:04 < Brometheus> with some modafil
09:04 < Brometheus> probally 3 months
09:04 <+NinjaStyle> lol
09:04 < Brometheus> one of my good friends is a doctor
09:04 < Brometheus> i can just ask him to prescribe me it
09:04 < Brometheus> lol
09:04 < Brometheus> i wonder if i can get a hard on with it
09:04 < Brometheus> ninja i hate to pester you but i have one more question
09:05 < Brometheus> the GIAC prep compared to all Sec+, is CCNA security, CISSP is like comparing apples to oranges right
09:07 <+NinjaStyle> i would say in general the GIAC stuff is going to be more real-word useful
09:07 < Brometheus> :D
09:07 < Brometheus> 500$ well spent i'd say
09:07 <+NinjaStyle> CISSP is very procedure, process, and management oriented
09:07 <+NinjaStyle> i dont know much about what ccna sec covers
09:08 < Brometheus> it covers a lot with cisco equipment
09:08 < Brometheus> but nothing about OFFENSIVE
09:08 < Brometheus> mostly defensive measures
09:08 < Brometheus> hardening and such
09:08 <+NinjaStyle> and sec+ is entry level general security multiple choice
09:08 < Brometheus> lol
09:08 < Brometheus> just out of curiousty have you tried modafil?
09:08 < Brometheus> lol
09:08 <+NinjaStyle> yeah
09:08 < Brometheus> how is it compared to ..adderal?
09:08 <+NinjaStyle> its very different
09:09 <+NinjaStyle> adderal or ritalin are very much uppers and make you feel wired, modafinil just makes you feel alert and awake
09:09 < Brometheus> this might be the drug my uncle was making at TEVA
09:09 < Brometheus> yea i just read they gave it to military personel
09:09 <+NinjaStyle> yeah fighter jet pilots use it
09:10 < Brometheus> well i would have no issue using it IF
09:10 < Brometheus> i came back at 11pm. Went straigth to sleep . set my alarm for 6am the next day
09:10 < Brometheus> and popped a moda
09:10 < Brometheus> if i get sleep then i should be okay lol
09:11 <+NinjaStyle> yeah, for me it wears off sufficiently by end of day
09:11 < Brometheus> i hate feelign wired
09:11 <+NinjaStyle> but you can always take less if you have trouble sleeping
09:11 < Brometheus> yea
09:11 < MetaNova> Brometheus: from personal sampling, 3-4 modafil equal about 1 30mg adderall
09:11 <+NinjaStyle> it doesnt raise your heart rate and stuff like adderal does
09:12 < Brometheus> oh thats even better.
09:12 < MetaNova> if you take enough it sure does
09:12 < Brometheus> ive had a 30mg before
09:12 < Brometheus> its legit insane
09:12 < MetaNova> lol 30mg 'insane'
09:12 < Brometheus> no i know
09:12 < Brometheus> i took one and went to work
09:13 < Brometheus> this walk hard youtube clip is amazing man lol
09:13 < MetaNova> working on adderall is great
09:13 <+NinjaStyle> ive only done extended release adderall but i have done instant release ritalin
09:13 < Brometheus> now that i have a general idea of where I could be headed if I take the OSCP. getting modafil might be justified
09:13 <+NinjaStyle> i can say for me, modafinil is the best for my productivity
09:13 < Brometheus> i'd definately have to get it prescribed
09:14 <+NinjaStyle> Brometheus: just tell your doc you do shift work
09:14 < Brometheus> ok
09:14 <+NinjaStyle> otherwise, buy it from indial
09:14 <+NinjaStyle> india*
09:15 <@JollyRgrs> wow... hateful eight is very tarintino
09:17 < Brometheus> ninja i appreciate all the advice for a good receipe to pentesting
09:17 < Brometheus> im sure this is solid advice most ppl don't know
09:17 < Brometheus> like my coworker who has been trying to study for his sec+ for years
09:17 <@JollyRgrs> he's not been tryna for years
09:17 <@JollyRgrs> he's been sayin' he has... but he's just been putting it off
09:18 <@JollyRgrs> thinking "i got time, i'm only _ _ yrs old"
09:18 <+NinjaStyle> its true
09:18 <+NinjaStyle> if you work hard you will definitely be able to do it
09:19 <+NinjaStyle> but you cant expect it to make itself happen
09:19 <@JollyRgrs> either that, or his co-worker is just that stupid and will NEVER make it
09:19 <@JollyRgrs> but most likely he's not that stupid... he just won't apply himself
09:19 < Brometheus> jolly that's strange dude
09:19 < Brometheus> you're absolutely right
09:20 < Brometheus> i have been putting it off for years . "success" i mean
09:20 < Brometheus> man ill have to think about that now more carefully
09:20 < Brometheus> lol
09:20 <@JollyRgrs> time creeps up on ya
09:21 <+NinjaStyle> it sure does
09:21 <@JollyRgrs> if there's one thing i urge you to do, is to carpe diem... i still don't do that like i should, but i'm getting better
09:21 < Brometheus> yea
09:22 < Brometheus> if i did that
09:22 <+NinjaStyle> i realized i needed to just work hard and good shit would come my way
09:22 < Brometheus> i'd have fucked probally 30 girls from the hospital
09:22 <@JollyRgrs> Brometheus: you understand this isn't a frat in here, right?
09:22 <@JollyRgrs> we don't care about you bragging of sleeping with women
09:22 <@JollyRgrs> so you can just knock that off
09:22 < Brometheus> lol
09:22 < Brometheus> I said
09:22 < Brometheus> I would have**
09:23 <@JollyRgrs> i know what you said
09:23 < Brometheus> yea
09:23 < Brometheus> but yea
09:23 <@JollyRgrs> you're frat dreaming
09:23 < Brometheus> you guys are awesome
09:23 < Brometheus> ninja. so are there any other areas i should look into for the OSCP
09:23 <@JollyRgrs> the sooner you know that you don't know... and that life isn't so bad if you just take it as it is... stop trying to fantasize about how many nurses you might sleep with, and instead use that creativity and enegery to better yourself
09:24 <@JollyRgrs> women like a man who's done something with himself, that seeks enrichment and to get better
09:24 < Brometheus> very true.
09:24 <@JollyRgrs> she doesn't want to marry a level 1 tech, she wants to marry a level 1 tech that is striving for more
09:24 <+NinjaStyle> Brometheus: if youre pretty well rounded as it is, you will probably be fine. the labs teach you by fire
09:25 <@JollyRgrs> being complacent is UN-attractive
09:25 <+NinjaStyle> Brometheus: linux and windows admin skills are important
09:25 <@JollyRgrs> women will take a confident fat man over a mamby pamby fit man
09:25 <+NinjaStyle> Brometheus: also general networking knowledge
09:25 <@JollyRgrs> well... most of them
09:25 < Brometheus> CCNA will cover that .
09:25 <@JollyRgrs> also, doesn't mean you have to be fat to be confident :P
09:26 <@JollyRgrs> also, pls don't use any skills you learn for netsec to creep on girls
09:26 < Brometheus> LOL
09:26 < catbeard> also pls don't use any skills you learn creeping on girls for netsec
09:26 < Brometheus> you guys are hilarious
09:26 < Brometheus> LOL
09:27 < Brometheus> im actually excited for once.
09:27 <@JollyRgrs> go forth and better yourself!
09:27 < Brometheus> that i shall make haste!
09:27 < catbeard> come in and know me better man!
09:27 <@JollyRgrs> be freed from the chains and shackles of toner cartridge replacements
09:27 < Brometheus> LMFAO
09:28 <@JollyRgrs> now, my movie is done, and the sleep i got from my old man afternoon nap is wearing off
09:28 <+NinjaStyle> lol
09:28 <@JollyRgrs> something about 3:30am means i need to get some sleep
09:28 <@JollyRgrs> ugh
09:28 < catbeard> i'll watch 'em for ya boss
09:28 <@JollyRgrs> g'nite kids
09:28 < Brometheus> shit i forgot its 2018
09:28  * catbeard o\
09:28 <@JollyRgrs> Brometheus: it's ok, i forget how old i am most times
09:28 < Brometheus> these 2016 dated SANS sec560 will be useless
09:28 < catbeard> Brometheus: ...
09:28 < Gencade> 2018 sucks
09:28 <@JollyRgrs> thanks catbeard
09:29 < Brometheus> 2018 does suck
09:29 <@JollyRgrs> not useless
09:29 < Gencade> JollyRgrs, are you a pirate?
09:29 <@JollyRgrs> knowing MS-DOS still provides useful for me
09:29 <+NinjaStyle> Brometheus: the material wont have changed too much
09:29 < Brometheus> ok
09:29 <+NinjaStyle> just learn about ms17-010
09:29 <+NinjaStyle> lol
09:29 <@JollyRgrs> Brometheus: also, if Gencade ever speaks in here and asks you if you are a bro... or a pirate. or something else he thinks is funny... just ignore him and hope he just goes away
09:29 < Gencade> :(
09:30 < Brometheus> lol
09:30 < Gencade> but I'm nice
09:30 <+NinjaStyle> Gencade: fuck you
09:30 < Brometheus> ha
09:30 < Gencade> NinjaStyle, buy me dinner first
09:30 <+NinjaStyle> <3
09:30 < Gencade> <3333
09:30  * catbeard lights up the bowl
09:30 < Gencade> what kind of bowl
09:30 <@JollyRgrs> NinjaStyle takes Gencade to taco bell
09:30 < voidstar> Gencade, don't worry, I'll pay attention to you, get your hopes up, then ignore you
09:30 < Gencade> oooo I love taco bell
09:30 <@JollyRgrs> Gencade: a pretty one from tiffany's
09:30 < Brometheus> ninja what about all these other good SANS SEC books? theres so many
09:30 < catbeard> double blown local glass
09:31 <@JollyRgrs> he likes putting RGBs behind them in his kurio cabinet (sp?)
09:31 <+NinjaStyle> Brometheus: there are a lot!
09:31  * JollyRgrs exits, stage right
09:31 < Brometheus> Ninjastyle: indeed
09:31 < Gencade> the empire did nothing wrong
09:31 <+NinjaStyle> Brometheus: the general sec ones are good too
09:31 <+NinjaStyle> like gsec
09:32 <+NinjaStyle> Gencade: pearl harbor
09:32 < Gencade> NinjaStyle, what about it
09:32 <+NinjaStyle> idk
09:32 <+NinjaStyle> i thought itd get you talking
09:32 < Gencade> me neither
09:33 < Gencade> you can say anything and it'll get me talkin
09:33 <+NinjaStyle> Gencade: russian influence
09:33 < Gencade> NinjaStyle, Oh no, we ain't doin this
09:33  * Gencade looks around for JollyRgrs
09:34  * NinjaStyle acts normal
09:34 < voidstar> chinese expansion into western media?
09:34 < Brometheus> hey what IRC client do you use for your phones?
09:34 <+NinjaStyle> i just use irccloud
09:34 < voidstar> yaaic
09:35 < Gencade> I couldn't handle having some of the people in this chan in my pocket
09:35 < Gencade> if I did, I would forget to text DrGibby|'s mother back
09:35 < voidstar> I let my bouncer deal with the riff raff when I'm away
09:36 <+NinjaStyle> "im voidstar i use screen"
09:36 < voidstar> znc
09:36 < voidstar> I tried screen and irsii. wasn't for me
09:36 < voidstar> well, it was tmux and ircii
09:37 <+NinjaStyle> o
09:38 < voidstar> check out my dotfiles, bro
09:38 < voidstar> while you're there have a peak at them ansible configs
09:38 <+NinjaStyle> oh i will
09:39 < Brometheus> ninja do you own any lab equipment?
09:39 < Brometheus> laptop on roids?
09:39 < Brometheus> servers?
09:41 <+NinjaStyle> i have a server a NAS and a laptop
09:41 <+NinjaStyle> my server has 72GB ram so it can run a lot of VMs
09:41 <+NinjaStyle> my laptop has 16
09:41 < Brometheus> I have a workstation with 32 GIGs.
09:41 < Brometheus> need to setup another rig . I have 16GIG kit and another 8 core CPU
09:42 < Brometheus> just bought a cisco 10/100 switch . should have went with a gigabit one
09:42 < Brometheus> and a macbook pro
09:42 <+NinjaStyle> i also use a lot of linodes and aws shit
09:42 < Brometheus> im going to buy a server
09:42 < Brometheus> nice
09:53 <+NinjaStyle> am sleeperoni
09:53 <+NinjaStyle> Gencade: hi
09:53 < Gencade> no but I wish I was NinjaStyle
09:53 <+NinjaStyle> wut
09:53 < Gencade> wurt
09:53 <+NinjaStyle> burt
09:54 < Gencade> nurt
09:54 < Gencade> .bofh
09:54 <+layer-eight> Gencade, BOFH says: nesting roaches shorted out the ether cable
09:54 <+NinjaStyle> .bofh
09:54 <+layer-eight> NinjaStyle, BOFH says: The Token fell out of the ring. Call us when you find it.
09:54 <+NinjaStyle> lol
09:54 < Gencade> lmao
10:01 <+NinjaStyle> probablybad.likelymalware.com
10:03 <+NinjaStyle> nice, no clicks
10:03 <+NinjaStyle> good job
10:03 <+NinjaStyle> 👍🏽
10:04 < Gencade> NinjaStyle, suck my dick im gonna click it
10:05 <+NinjaStyle> aaaand you did
10:05 < Gencade> duh
10:05 <+NinjaStyle> :(
10:07 <+NinjaStyle> Gencade: u butt
10:07 < Gencade> what about it
10:07 <+NinjaStyle> was the link not suspicious enough!!?
10:08 < Gencade> not quite try hardder
10:09 <+NinjaStyle> virus.definitelymalware.com
10:10 <+NinjaStyle> Gencade: better?
10:10 < Gencade> that's a bit better
10:11 <+NinjaStyle> good, now we got no clicks
14:02 < estranger> All hail Jesus
14:23 <+ktechmidas> I was playing with a bot account on Reddit.... wanted to delete it once I'd done
14:23 <+ktechmidas> accidentally deleted my main
14:23  * ktechmidas cries
14:23 <+ktechmidas> it feels like I've lost part of my soul :(
15:04 < rr> ktechmidas that sucks
15:04 < rr> use your alt acc
16:05 <+CheckYourSix> This case would be awesome to mount on the wall to show off - https://www.massdrop.com/buy/tt-core-p7-tempered-glass-full-tower-chassis
16:51 < L3gacy> Good bacon unto all!
16:55 <+AnonymooseReddtr> mmm bacon
16:57 < L3gacy> Much bacon :)
17:18 < m4221> Anyone here?
17:19 <+AnonymooseReddtr> nope
17:19 <+AnonymooseReddtr> what sup
17:21 <@cryptic1> nope no one here
17:23 <+AnonymooseReddtr> brb
17:29 < x1b4> what's up
17:37 < L3gacy> Blood sugar tanked at 82.  Weeeeee.  *noms sammich*
18:25 < czarbomba> ugh why is apple a steaming pile of shit 100% of the time
18:26  * CheckYourSix assumes operator error. It's always operator error. Or DNS.
18:29 <@JollyRgrs> CheckYourSix: i wouldn't know... i choose not to buy into 100% steaming piles of shit
18:29 <@JollyRgrs> err, czarbomba
18:29 <@JollyRgrs> so i only have to deal with OTHERS' steaming piles
18:39 < czarbomba> yeah this wa a gift years ago
18:39 < czarbomba> i suppose it's approaching the time when i frisbee it out of a 20th floor window
18:41  * CheckYourSix can't wait to go back to an Android phone
18:42 < sideup66> CheckYourSix: why, I thought iOS was better
18:43 < sideup66> Or you preferred it
18:43 <@JollyRgrs> CheckYourSix: did you go iOS by choice or forced?
18:43 < sideup66> Good luck getting your crap out of ios
18:43 <@JollyRgrs> ^^
18:43 < sideup66> It's literally designed to lock you in
18:43 <+CheckYourSix> JollyRgrs: Work gives me an iPhone with unlimited data for free
18:43 <+CheckYourSix> Hard to justify paying for your own phone when you have that
18:44 <@JollyRgrs> my last job did that
18:44 <@JollyRgrs> i had 2 phones
18:44 <@JollyRgrs> well, for the first while it was $50 for the iphone or a BB for free
18:44 <@JollyRgrs> so i rocked a BB for a long time
18:44 <+CheckYourSix> I did that for a couple months, then got really annoyed with it. Plus, I'm cheap lol
18:44 <+CheckYourSix> Carrying 2 phones was just annoying and bulky
18:44 <@JollyRgrs> i'm cheap, but some things aren't worth skimping on
18:45 <@JollyRgrs> so yeah, i'm on vzw
18:45 <@JollyRgrs> lol
18:45 <+CheckYourSix> iPhone 6s Plus and Galaxy S7, both with lifeproof cases...
18:45 <@JollyRgrs> oh
18:45 <@JollyRgrs> that's your problem
18:45 <@JollyRgrs> i don't case my phones
18:45 <+CheckYourSix> My personal phone was VZW and work phone is AT&T
18:45 <@JollyRgrs> but then again i've had exclusively motorola phones, so they're built like a tank
18:46 <+CheckYourSix> I'd destroy my phone in about 2-3 days without it. Lifeproof cases hardly add any bulk
18:46 <+CheckYourSix> I wouldn't use a Motorola phone if I got it for free. I've had bad luck with every single Motorola phone I've ever owned
18:46 < sideup66> Sheesh, I have byod right now, old job gave me a pixrl
18:46 < sideup66> Two device life had an annoying bulk, but it was nice to separate work and oersonal
18:46 <@JollyRgrs> yup
18:47 < sideup66> So I cobbled together something in Google voice in the meantime
18:47 <@JollyRgrs> no worries about getting nudes on your phone and work looking at them :P
18:47 < sideup66> Frankly I feel work is too cheap, the way I use my personal for work, 55/mo for my plan isn't worth it
18:47 < sideup66> Just give me a damn phone
18:47 < sideup66> They used to do blackberries but stopped thst
18:48 <@JollyRgrs> yeah
18:48 <@JollyRgrs> i was one of like 8 left in a nearly 10k user environment logging into the BES
18:48 <@JollyRgrs> so they gave us the iphone for free so they could turn BES off
18:48 < sideup66> So my work device now if they gave you one would be a BB and other my personal, but I've thought about opening a second cheapo line for my current phone, get a new one, write it off for taxes as when it's retired it'll be for work, and use my current as work for 4/5 years
18:49 < sideup66> Yeah in my place they will do that soon
18:49 < sideup66> Alot of people hanging on
18:49 <@JollyRgrs> is it b/c they like BB or because they just don't wanna pay for an upgrade to an iphone?
18:50 < sideup66> They won't give up BB because there is no more company issued option
18:50 < sideup66> It's all byod
18:50 < czarbomba> hunterkll brags about carrying like six phones
18:50 < czarbomba> i guess maybe he juggles them to impress potential waifus
18:51 <+CheckYourSix> sideup66: You can't write it off
18:51 <+CheckYourSix> czarbomba: I don't know how he does that. 2 phones annoys the hell out of me
18:51 < sideup66> CheckYourSix: not the phone, but you get 55/mo on plan
18:51 <+CheckYourSix> sideup66: I know
18:51 < czarbomba> yeah i didn't care for two phones when i worked in #mspland
18:52 < sideup66> CheckYourSix: but if I. Bought a second phone on my own I'd make that phone a tax write-off as when I upgrade in 4 years it'll become a work phone
18:52 <+CheckYourSix> sideup66: Again, you can't write it off
18:52 < sideup66> Oh
18:52 < sideup66> =\
18:53 < sideup66> Nevermind
18:53 <+CheckYourSix> sideup66: A) You have to itemize deductions in order to claim work expenses as a write off (which, unless you have over $12k in deductions, you aren't doing) and B) You can only write off work expenses that are in EXCESS of 2% of your AGI
18:55 <+CheckYourSix> That whole "it's a write off" mentality people have is usually completely inaccurate. Not being dick at all. Just trying to point out the common misconceptions about write offs and how people use that mentality to justify stuff. Just be careful with that
19:12 < czarbomba> are you providing tax consultant services too
19:14 <+CheckYourSix> Nope. I just give educational information about finance when I can
19:15 < czarbomba> are you h. block or r. block?
19:17 < ned0> CheckYourSix is the man
19:17  * ned0 throws a molotov at CheckYourSix
19:18 <+CheckYourSix> Lol
19:18 < ned0> the fuse was actually the first page of my 1040
19:19 <+CheckYourSix> Haha. Unless you have some crazy stuff, taxes really aren't hard
19:19 < mkillebrew> and if you do have a bunch of bullshit, turbotax still takes care of it
19:21 < ned0> they are just annoying
19:22 < ned0> in that I've probably prepped a thousand returns and I never want to look at them again
19:23 < ned0> have you guys watched Altered Carbon?
19:23 < mkillebrew> yeah it was ok-ish
19:40 < sideup66> CheckYourSix: i cant get over how people go full stupid after winning the lottery
19:40 < sideup66> and go broke
19:40 < L3gacy> Hi peeps!
19:41 < sideup66> once you have about 3-4 mil in the bank you could honestly live quite comfortably off the interest alone
19:41 < sideup66> from just letting it sit in a bank
19:41 < L3gacy> Ok.  I have an HP DL 360 G7, with a Quad core, 8 thread Xeon @ 2.4Ghz and 24GB of ram.  Windows Server 2012, or 16?
19:41 < L3gacy> What server os is the question
19:41 < sideup66> and you can invest it of course for higher interest
19:41 < sideup66> and just live off of it
19:41 < L3gacy> 4 GB Nics, and ilO 3 advanced
19:41 < sideup66> dont change your life, and your good
19:44 < L3gacy> Any recommendations for a server OS?  Going to run several VMs, and use AD
19:45 < sedition> what bank are you using that provides real interest?
19:46 < sedition> it tops out at 1.55% with online savings accounts afaict
19:50 < sideup66> if you have a huge amount of money in, sometimes rules change a bit
19:50 < sideup66> because your not just talking about your 10k in the bank
19:50 < sideup66> were talking about someone with millions
19:50 < sideup66> if it were me winning say the powerball for 200 mil (just making this up) id take the cash, put some in the bank as a rainy day fund and not touch it, rest go into some stable investment with steady growth
19:51 < sideup66> no new cars/houses , no lavish vacations
19:51 < Virtual-Potato> aka penny stocks
19:51 < Virtual-Potato> :D
19:51 < sideup66> even consider continuing to work to maintain your average lifestyle
19:51 < sedition> once youve got your emergency fund set up, i'd pay off my house and invest the rest
19:51 < sideup66> dont need the money so find a good charity for my work paycheck and donate it
19:51 < sedition> even if you're pulling 6% on your index funds, thats enough
19:52 < czarbomba> would you pay off sideup's house, too?
19:52 < sideup66> well yes, thats the difference
19:52 < sideup66> my car would have no loan, nor would my house
19:52 < sideup66> and maybe drive newer ones, but i will likely still have a hyundai or something similar like honda/toyota
19:52 < sideup66> midrange indestructable economy car
19:52 < czarbomba> something similar? thas raycess
19:53 < sideup66> and with the cash i have no reason not to drive a newer one
19:53 < sedition> im a big fan of living beneath my means
19:53 < sedition> everything is paid off other than the house, and we're paying extra on it
19:53 < sideup66> but dont go overboard
19:53 < sedition> debt sucks
19:53 < sideup66> just meaning instead of trading in every 10 years when my warranty is up
19:53 < Virtual-Potato> I thought this was America, the land of the free and home to crippling debt
19:53 < sideup66> trade in at 4/5 for the newer
19:53 < czarbomba> s/debt/debt for people who don't pay attention
19:53 <+layer-eight> Virtual-Potato meant: "I thought this was America, the land of the free and home to crippling debt for people who don't pay attention"
19:54 < sedition> i plan on driving this subaru until it falls apart
19:54 < sideup66> keep job too has an added benefit -- let them pay for health insurance
19:54 <@JollyRgrs> become the dude that barely works, but does enough that you can't fire him for not working
19:54 <@JollyRgrs> "there's carl... we can't fire him, so he's just there"
19:55 < sideup66> nice part is JollyRgrs at that point if i got tired of work
19:55 < sideup66> just quit
19:55 < sideup66> fuck you
19:56 < sideup66> i dont have to work
19:56 < sideup66> im merely working for something to do
19:56 < sideup66> and id work somewhere that accepts that
19:56 < sideup66> ups did that when i was there in hs
19:56 < sideup66> some older guys hung out for medical bennies
19:56 < sideup66> didnt give a shit about the money
19:56 < sideup66> just let them do enough to keep their jobs
19:57 < L3gacy> sideup66, cool on the work ethic :)
19:58 < sideup66> yeah if i became wealthy thats how id work it honestly
19:58 < sideup66> im not working because i need to at that point, the money i have invested/saved i can easily live off
19:59 < L3gacy> If I became wealthy, I'd show up to work in boxers, corcs with socks, a Stone Cold Steve Austin middle finger t-shirt, and a bottle of Laphroaig scotch
19:59 < L3gacy> But my boss is a dick whistle
19:59 < sideup66> i wouldnt deal with it
19:59 < sideup66> quit
19:59 < sideup66> find a company with a team i like
19:59 < L3gacy> This is a small town
19:59 < sideup66> and work there until i got tired
19:59 < sideup66> again
19:59 < L3gacy> He's the only MSP in range atm
19:59 < sideup66> at that point work isnt necessary, im keeping busy with it
19:59 < sideup66> fuck msps
19:59 < sideup66> dime a dozen
19:59 < sideup66> come to philly
20:00 < L3gacy> I was hired as break-fix, then took on AD work, and he's now talking of cutting my pay from 10/hr to 9 due to "budget" as he loses clients
20:00 < estranger> California here I come, fuck you cold spring
20:00 < L3gacy> I'm an hour 40 outside philly
20:00 < L3gacy> South Jersey
20:00 < estranger> What direction?
20:00 < estranger> Ahh
20:00  * L3gacy flashes gang signs
20:01 < sideup66> L3gacy: dont tell me camden
20:01 < L3gacy> NO
20:01 < L3gacy> Millville/Vineland
20:01 < sideup66> oh shit
20:01 < sideup66> im like 30 mins from there
20:01 < estranger> I used to live in Allentown, pa most muh life
20:01 < sideup66> lol
20:01 < sideup66> by the way in vineland, whats your msp called
20:01 < estranger> Dude I'll be in millville next month lol
20:01 < L3gacy> Computers and Networks
20:01  * L3gacy outs his dick boss
20:01 < estranger> For as short a time as possible
20:02 < sideup66> L3gacy: thats the name, computers and networks?
20:02 < L3gacy> Computers and Networks Unlimited
20:02 < sideup66> nah wasnt them
20:02 < L3gacy> we're losing clients mad fast.  They're running to PCS in Vineland
20:02 < L3gacy> I even lost a personal client to them, and good riddance in that case
20:02 < sideup66> i used to work for a company that had programming and a small msp
20:02 < sideup66> they were so shitty
20:03 < L3gacy> Would constantly go against my recommendations
20:03 < sideup66> why you losin peeps
20:03 < L3gacy> PCS is more competent in managing
20:03 < L3gacy> Boss here is scattered on pricing
20:03 < L3gacy> And our MAIN server (only server guy) is arrogant
20:03 < sideup66> this is why i dont do the MSP game anymore
20:03 < sideup66> such a joke
20:03 < sideup66> all suck imho equally
20:03 < L3gacy> I'm trying to go to PCS, and have an offer, but NOT without a car, according to them
20:03 < sideup66> not without a car
20:04 < sideup66> wtf
20:04 < L3gacy> I cant afford a car
20:04 < sideup66> you gotta drive to places
20:04 < L3gacy> yeah
20:04 < sideup66> fuck that
20:04 < sideup66> enjoy fixing it for maintenance
20:04 < L3gacy> they do a TON of remote work
20:04 < sideup66> because you put a fuckton of miles on it
20:04 < L3gacy> but a good chunk is still on site, detting up T330s etc
20:04 < L3gacy> You should see the 120TB SSD SAN they recently set up for a client :O
20:05 < sideup66> i now drive 10 miles to work, used to be 40 each way, then like 50, then i had like 35, now 10
20:05 < sideup66> in 1 year put 20,000 miles on my car.
20:05 < sedition> i take the bus or the train
20:05 < sedition> work pays for the bus pass so i make use of it
20:05 < sedition> and then i hotspot on the way so i can do less hours at hq
20:06 < L3gacy> oh, Good news, everyone!
20:06 < L3gacy> I'm down to 4 cans of RockStar a day
20:06 < L3gacy> From 8 @ peak
20:06 < sedition> gross
20:06 < Virtual-Potato> Don't they have like 240mg of caffeine in each can?
20:07 < L3gacy> yeah
20:07 < sedition> tea/coffee is plenty capable.
20:07 < L3gacy> I'm past LD50
20:07 < Virtual-Potato> so you were consuming up around 2 GRAMS of caffeine a day
20:07 < L3gacy> NOMS
20:08 < L3gacy> Is sever chest pain normal?
20:08 < L3gacy> *severe
20:08 < Virtual-Potato> nah, 2 grams isn't even close to LD50 IIRC
20:08 < Virtual-Potato> I think it's around 5 or so grams
20:08 < L3gacy> I thought 4 cans was?
20:10 < Virtual-Potato> nope, just looked - it's actually around 150-200mg per kilogram of body mass
20:10 < L3gacy> WOOHOO!
20:10 < Virtual-Potato> so you're nowhere near it
20:10 < L3gacy> I might go Proxmox, and virtualize my servers
20:10 < Virtual-Potato> drink 12 rockstars and you can virtualize yourself
20:11 < L3gacy> I'm drinking Rockstar and taking antipsychotics
20:11 < L3gacy> woohoo
20:11 < L3gacy> Hai, Peter1
20:12 < L3gacy> what is the cheapest 6 core CPU I can get for an HP DL360 G7?
20:17 < _KaszpiR_> L3gacy http://www.cpu-world.com/Related_CPUs/Socket%201366_Westmere.html
20:18 < _KaszpiR_> I guess x5650 are the most affordable
20:20 < L3gacy> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Matched-Pair-of-Intel-Xeon-X5650-2-66GHz-SLBV3-CPUs-LGA1366-Mac-Pro-5-1-2010-NR/162997256915?epid=82104382&hash=item25f364c2d3:g:oUIAAOSwYBta0NtL
20:21 < L3gacy> 11.50US + ship
20:22 < _KaszpiR_> I'd expect it to reach about 40 USD
20:23 < _KaszpiR_> at least
20:23 < L3gacy> 8.95 ship
20:23 < L3gacy> oops
20:23 < L3gacy> 8.00 USD
20:24 < _KaszpiR_> inmy coutnry they are around 40 USD per one
20:25 < L3gacy> Where are you located?
20:25 < _KaszpiR_> Europe
20:26 < _KaszpiR_> but I see on ebay they reach around 50 USD for one
20:26 < L3gacy> My grandmother was from Novorossysk
20:27 < _KaszpiR_> what kind of vms are going to host on it?
20:27 < L3gacy> 7 PRO, debian, server 2k12
20:27 < _KaszpiR_> are they going to utilize cpu 100% for a prolonged time?
20:28 < L3gacy> no
20:33 < _KaszpiR_> ok, then no more suggestions
20:33 < _KaszpiR_> you could also try with w36xx family
20:34 < _KaszpiR_> oh wait, sorry, w36xx does not support multi-processing
20:34 < L3gacy> yeah ... poopy
20:34 < L3gacy> eta CPU cyka blyat :P
20:39 < L3gacy> What do?  Just had a client call, asking if we could virualize proxmox IN hyper-v...
20:39 < L3gacy> I need bourbon
20:46 < _KaszpiR_> yeah, saw that once aswell m)
20:48 < L3gacy> They want to get around 2k12R2 and 2k16 licensing fees for VMs
20:52 < voidstar> L3gacy, let them know they'll need 2x the hardware to accomplish that
20:53 < L3gacy> I am
20:57 < voidstar> possibly even 3x since the overhead increases each time you virtualize a hypervisor
20:57 < DLSteve> VMCeption?
21:05 < _KaszpiR_> I assume they still will want to run docker in it ;D
21:05 < L3gacy> Don't give them ideas
21:08 < Gencade> The empire did nothing wrong
21:09 < L3gacy> Nice, Gencade.  lol
21:09 < Gencade> L3gacy, hey thanks
21:09 < L3gacy> yw
21:09 < Gencade> How's your weekend going L3gacy
21:09 < L3gacy> Crappy
21:09 < Gencade> Why
21:10 < L3gacy> $Client called PERSONAL CELL
21:10 < Gencade> damn rough
21:10 < Gencade> you getting dinner later?
21:10 < L3gacy> Wants to run PROXMOX, IN HYPER-V, to avoid MS licensing
21:10 < Gencade> ahhhh
21:10 < Gencade> Damn
21:10 < L3gacy> I'm like, "Hwaht?!"
21:10 < _KaszpiR_> wat
21:11 < L3gacy> I tell ya hwaht
21:11 < Gencade> I sell hyper-v and hyper-v accessories
21:11 < L3gacy> lol
21:12 < L3gacy> Ok.  Heck with 2k12 and 2k16
21:12 < L3gacy> Proxmox it is
21:13 < _KaszpiR_> go ovirt if more than 10 hosts
21:13 < L3gacy> It will be about 4 VMs
21:13 < _KaszpiR_> ah
21:13 < L3gacy> I'm upgrading it to 128GB DDR3 now
21:13 < _KaszpiR_> they go pure virt-manager ;)
21:13 < L3gacy> The joys of the trash pile at work
21:13 < L3gacy> 16 8s in the skip so far, in the server room lol
21:15 < Gencade> .bofh
21:15 <+layer-eight> Gencade, BOFH says: vi needs to be upgraded to vii
21:15 < Gencade> Vii lol
21:15 < voidstar> lol
21:15 < m4221> .bofh
21:16 <+layer-eight> m4221, BOFH says: manager in the cable duct
21:16 < L3gacy> Just found a NEWish, WORKING Netgear 24 port Prosafe Gbit switch for $20 :)
21:16 < m4221> Has anyone ridden the Empire Builder train on AmTrack?
21:17 <@cryptic1> m4221, just your mom has
21:17 < Gencade> cryptic1, fuck you
21:17 <@cryptic1> O_o
21:18 < L3gacy> All this fucking already, and here I am single...
21:18 < Gencade> (.)(.)
21:18 <@cryptic1> m4221, HALP
21:18 < L3gacy> I need an adult!
21:19 < Gencade> I'm an adult L3gacy
21:19 <@cryptic1> hardly
21:19 < L3gacy> I need an adultier adult
21:19 <@cryptic1> since when is 14 an adults age?
21:19 < Gencade> since you became an adult cryptic1
21:20 <@cryptic1> rumor has it Gencade uses Linus Tech Tips as a training resource for work
21:20 < Gencade> rumor has it that you use supersafTV to research potential enterprise hardware
21:20 < Gencade> cryptic1,
21:20 <@cryptic1> heh
21:21 < Gencade> heh
21:22 < L3gacy> taco taco nacho burrito
21:22 < voidstar> aaand, now I'm hungry
21:22 < sideup66> wtf messagebird
21:22 < sideup66> now my messages arent delivering
21:22 < sideup66> and i have no idea why
21:23 < Gencade> .bofh
21:23 <+layer-eight> Gencade, BOFH says: Write-only-memory subsystem too slow for this machine. Contact your local dealer.
21:23 < Gencade> there you go sideup66
21:23 < L3gacy> voidstar, think pan seared mahi, in light grape seed oil, with lime, white pepper, and kosher salt seasoning, served with fire roasted asparagus, with sea salt, lemon zest, and sweet cream butter
21:24 < sideup66> Gencade: my car dealer?
21:24 < sideup66> .bofh
21:24 <+layer-eight> sideup66, BOFH says: Maintenance window broken
21:24 < sideup66> kek, happens where i work
21:24 < Gencade> yes
21:25 < L3gacy> sound decent, voidstar ?
21:25 < sideup66> lol
21:26 < Gencade> .bofh
21:26 <+layer-eight> Gencade, BOFH says: Someone is broadcasting pigmy packets and the router dosn't know how to deal with them.
21:26 < Gencade> pigmy packets lmao
21:26 < L3gacy> midget bytes
21:28 < Gencade> You're a midget L3gacy
21:28 < L3gacy> I'm 6'3" 272lbs
21:29 < Gencade> and I'm 7'0 and 69 lbs
21:29 < L3gacy> Wine me, dine me, 68 me.  I'll owe you one later
21:31 < voidstar> L3gacy yes, that does sound good. when can I expect it at my desk?
21:31 < L3gacy> Where are you located?
21:32 < voidstar> building 2, floor 7, cube 49
21:33 < L3gacy> city
21:34 < sideup66> lol
21:34 < sideup66> .bofh
21:34 <+layer-eight> sideup66, BOFH says: CPU needs recalibration
21:34 < sideup66> lol
21:34 < sideup66> recalibrate the cpu
21:34 < sideup66> hondur accerd
21:34 < voidstar> L3gacy I don't know, they haven't let me outside in years
21:34 < L3gacy> I legit would if you were local
21:35 < L3gacy> I lvoe cooking :)
21:35 < L3gacy> *love
21:35 < voidstar> oo, I'm in CA so I don't think that would be possible
21:35 < L3gacy> Ah.  I'm in NJ
21:36 < voidstar> I'll let you know if I'm in that area
21:36 < L3gacy> coo
21:56 <+NinjaStyle> Ayy
21:56 <+NinjaStyle> Ipconfig /all am I rite?
21:57 <+NinjaStyle> Information technology ayy
21:59 < L3gacy> ifconfig
21:59 < L3gacy> #LinuxLife
21:59 <+NinjaStyle> Ip add
21:59 < voidstar> ip a*
21:59 <+NinjaStyle> You mean
22:09 < sedition> wat
22:10 <+NinjaStyle> Wut
22:11 < L3gacy> in the butt
22:12 <@cryptic1> O_o
22:12 <+NinjaStyle> Hi cryptic1
22:12 <@cryptic1> hi
22:13 <+NinjaStyle> Cryptographic1
22:14 <+NinjaStyle> I want coffee
22:14 < voidstar> grab one for me too
22:18 < L3gacy> I need Turkish Coffee
22:19 < L3gacy> noobineer, I love the nick!
22:20 < estranger> greetings from 30k
22:38 <+NinjaStyle> I'm getting coffee right now
22:38 < L3gacy> Turkish coffee?
22:38 <+NinjaStyle> estranger: where u headed?
22:38 < L3gacy> Coffe should be black as night, strong as death, and sweet as lvoe
22:38 < L3gacy> *love
22:41 < estranger> california, south bay area
22:41 < estranger> gettin the heck out of the chicago cold
22:46 < voidstar> estranger, please watch your language
22:47 < estranger> mother forker
22:48 <+NinjaStyle> You're moving to California or just visiting?
23:00 < estranger> just going for the week for work
23:02 < xmonkee> Hello everyone. I am trying to have one of the devices on my home network be discoverable through it's hostname, so I can ssh into it. My plan is to give it a static IP, then install a DNS server on is (likely bind9) that will return it's own address for queries for it's own hostname (and any others on my home network) and will forward to 1.1.1.1 or something for things it doesn't have a record for. Is this doable?
23:04 < precise> xmonkee: You still here?
23:05 < xmonkee> yea
23:06 < precise> xmonkee: Did someone answer your question?
23:07 < xmonkee> precise: nope
23:07 < precise> So what you are describing should work.
23:08 < precise> Actually it's exactly what I would do, what are you running your DNS server on?
23:08 < xmonkee> precise: a raspberry pi
23:09 <+NinjaStyle> xmonkee: youre trying to make this internet accessible or just accessible locally via a hostname?
23:09 < xmonkee> precise: I'm a little worried about the forwarding part... normally it goes the other way right? A top level (authoratative server) will defer to local namerservers
23:09 < mkillebrew> did you use a hostname that's either yours or a TLD like .local?
23:09 < precise> xmonkee: They have a point, I hadn't considered WAN based access.
23:10 < xmonkee> NinjaStyle: just locally for now. for internet accessible I think I have a static IP and I could just use port forwarding. but that's not the point i'm trying to solve right now
23:10 <+NinjaStyle> gotcha
23:10 < precise> You just need internal resolution, cool
23:10 < xmonkee> yeah
23:10 <+NinjaStyle> yeah then you could make a local dns server and just do dns forwarding to an internet dns server
23:10 < precise> + the static entry for your machine
23:10 < xmonkee> cool, thanks.. Just wanted to verify before I spend time on it... any guides about how to do the forwarding etc?
23:11 <+NinjaStyle> make a zone internally like .local and make add your internal host records to that zone
23:12 < precise> xmonkee: Unfortunately I'm not familiar with Bind9 or messing with DNS zones all that much, so I'll defer to the others in here.
23:12 <+NinjaStyle> you just need to add forwarders to the bind config
23:12 < mkillebrew> then just allow-recursion on
23:12 < mkillebrew> forwarders for what
23:12 < xmonkee> awesome, thanks!
23:12 < xmonkee> i thin allow-recursion sounds about right.
23:12 < precise> mkillebrew: I think they just mean how to make their local DNS server look for 1.1.1.1
23:12 < xmonkee> precise: correct
23:13 < precise> :D
23:13 <+NinjaStyle> mkillebrew: so that it will resolve external records not found in the local dns server
23:13 < mkillebrew> no, that's jsut recursion
23:13 < mkillebrew> forwarding means BIND will forward requests to a specific one, and cache
23:13 < precise> mkillebrew: Yeah, we are on the same page, just different terminology.
23:13 < mkillebrew> that's not necessarily desired
23:13 < precise> mkillebrew: Oh...
23:13 < precise> TIL
23:14 < precise> abakedapplepie: Are you here?
23:14 < mkillebrew> allow recursion and it'll just function like a normal NS for non-authoratative replies
23:14 < mkillebrew> if it's internet facing, limit your recursion to the local net though, mitigate abuse
23:14 <+NinjaStyle> recusion makes it recurse through the root zones
23:14 <+NinjaStyle> which is going to be much slower than forwarding
23:14 < precise> mkillebrew: ++, though it doesn't sound like it is interently internet facing
23:15 < precise> Just a local box
23:15 < mkillebrew> it's not slower
23:15 <+NinjaStyle> it will be until it gets cached
23:15 < mkillebrew> heh
23:15 <+NinjaStyle> where if you just forward to 1.1.1.1 its already gonna be cached
23:15 < precise> I need those 10ms
23:16 < mkillebrew> run your own NS just as a normal fucking NS, why depend on someone else?
23:16 <+NinjaStyle> for sake of simplicity
23:16 < mkillebrew> that's not simple, it gives you a single point of failure
23:17 <+NinjaStyle> not necessarily
23:17 < mkillebrew> your have all of BIND right there capable to act as a NS
23:17 <+NinjaStyle> you can have multiple forwarders
23:17 < mkillebrew> you're overcomplicating something
23:17 <+NinjaStyle> nah
23:17 < mkillebrew> eh, I'm done with this.
23:18 < xmonkee> Another idea could be having my NS be the secondary NS and only serve the .local zones while having 1.1.1.1 as the primary... would that work?
23:18 < precise> I think my alternative to DNS would work well in this case
23:18 < mkillebrew> no
23:18 <+NinjaStyle> xmonkee: basically you can either do recursion or forwarding. up to you
23:18 <+NinjaStyle> me and mkillebrew have differing opinions on whats better
23:18 < mkillebrew> say you ask local NS for google.com, and it allows no recursion, it'll tell you REFRUSED
23:18 < mkillebrew> REFUSED is a valid response, host resolution stops
23:19 < mkillebrew> it won't ask the second NS
23:20 <+NinjaStyle> it sends a recursive query to the forwarder
23:20 < mkillebrew> if you ask 1.1.1.1 for wahtever.local it'll say "wtf u talking about fren" and it won't query your local NS because that's also valid
23:20 <+NinjaStyle> when you set up forwarder
23:22 <+NinjaStyle> mkillebrew: wat
23:22 < mkillebrew> wat what
23:22 < mkillebrew> why are you so bad at DNS
23:22 <+NinjaStyle> lol you abv dont know what forwarders are
23:22 <+NinjaStyle> obv*
23:22 < mkillebrew> ok I'm just an idiot then I guess
23:22 <+NinjaStyle> probably
23:22 < mkillebrew> k
23:23 < precise> mkillebrew: Would you like to here about my alternative to DNS?
23:24 < precise> mkillebrew: ?
23:24 < abakedapplepie> maybe i am
23:24 < precise> Oh hi
23:24 < abakedapplepie> im knee deep in a MCU marathon
23:24 < abakedapplepie> on movie 8 of 16
23:24 < precise> Are you guys closing the business for a few hours to go see Super Troopers 2?
23:25 < abakedapplepie> uhh probably not lol
23:25 < precise> lol
23:25 < precise> I could see the man who lies downstairs pulling that
23:25 < precise> abakedapplepie: MCU?
23:25 <+A-KO> marvel movies
23:25 < precise> Thanks
23:25 < abakedapplepie> marvel cinematic universe
23:25 < abakedapplepie> getting prepared for avengers 3
23:26 < precise> I've been binging Star Trek myself
23:26 < abakedapplepie> oh i guess we are on 7 of 15 because we skipped the incredible hulk
23:26 < abakedapplepie> fuck that movie
23:26 < precise> lol
23:26 < abakedapplepie> and i skipped winter soldier because i just watched it last week
23:26 < abakedapplepie> but im counting that one
23:27 < precise> How's Scout?
23:27 < precise> abakedapplepie:
23:28 < abakedapplepie> he is a dog that is cute, still
23:29 < precise> abakedapplepie: Bigger?
23:29 < precise> I bet he's bigger
23:29 < abakedapplepie> he stopped growing like 4 months ago, hes at 12 pounds
23:30 < precise> Infinitly cute
23:31 < precise> Woohoo! Penguins up on the Phlyers 5-1
23:34  * XV8 counts down the time until he gets off his rotation
23:34 < XV8> :<
23:34 <+NinjaStyle> anyone here have CISSP?
23:38 < bomb> what does that stand for?
23:39 <+NinjaStyle> "Certified Information Systems Security Professional"
23:39 < abakedapplepie> cisco netsec
23:39 < abakedapplepie> er not cisco
23:39 < abakedapplepie> just netsec
23:39 < abakedapplepie> lol
23:39 < abakedapplepie> my head immediately thinks cisco when i see C**P
23:40 < precise> abakedapplepie: Same
23:41 < bomb> pissco netsec
23:41 < precise> Cisco Certified Italian Spaghetti Sanity Professional
23:41 < precise> Verifies that the Italian Spaghetti is indeed sane
23:43 <+A-KO> we interviewed a guy on Friday for a Tier 2 helpdesk type job
23:43 <+A-KO> he bombed it so hard that I couldn't tell whether he was nervous or flat out didn't know the answers
23:44 <+NinjaStyle> ISC² does cissp
23:44 <+A-KO> CISSP is the new MCSE
23:45 < bomb> A-KO: was it a stress-interview?
23:45 < XV8> A-KO, did you break out the clamps?
23:45 <+A-KO> I mean
23:46 <+A-KO> asking someone to name the port HTTP uses I don't feel like is too stressful
23:46 <+A-KO> O.o
23:46 <+A-KO> a couple of coworkers "man not even I know that stuff." and I'm like "uh, it's Network+ level knowledge."
23:47 < precise> A-KO: It's A+ level
23:47 < precise> It's like, I spent 30 minutes fuddling with the internet leve;l
23:47 <+A-KO> This dude supposedly had like a decade of experience
23:48 <+A-KO> his resume came off above the position, honestly.
23:48 <+A-KO> but he bombed real hard
23:49 < czarbomba> anybody here working as a featured dancer under the name "chex mix"?
23:50 < bomb> would you hire me if i said 81?
23:50 <+A-KO> I mean. I asked him if he knew HTTP, CIFS, HTTPS, SSH, RDP, anything
23:50 < precise> czarbomba: I think JollyRgrs said something about that
23:50 < bomb> CIF?
23:50 <+A-KO> nothing at all
23:50 < czarbomba> jollyrgrs dances as "mr. pringles"
23:51 <+A-KO> dude knew absolutely nothing
23:51 <+A-KO> I didn't even finish the rest of my port list
23:51 < precise> czarbomba: oh
23:51 < bomb> i'd bomb out too if they asked me about CIF, CIM, etc,
23:51 <+A-KO> I didn't get that far tbh
23:52 <+A-KO> I had many more prepared
23:52 <+A-KO> he bombed at HTTP, HTTPS, DNS, and SSH
23:52 <+A-KO> the worst part is this guy had told us he moved to Irvine specifically to try and get a job here
23:52 <+A-KO> and I'm all like
23:52 <+A-KO> O.o
23:52 < czarbomba> you guys all ready to get back to work?
23:53 <+A-KO> it's like dude you aint even gonna come close without at least bringing something to the table
23:53 <+A-KO> no I'm not
23:54 < bomb> he'd be helpdesk for home users?
23:54 <+A-KO> dude listed 14 years of experience on his resume
23:54 <+A-KO> as a systems admin/engineer
23:54 <+A-KO> starting in 2003
23:55 < xe0n> morning
23:55 < czarbomba> don't you dare try to snatch our sunday evenings away, xe0n
23:55 < xe0n> haha
23:58 < bomb> that sounds about accurate A-KO
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