--- Log opened Mon Apr 23 00:00:55 2018
00:06 < m4221> cryptic1: suttin has been harassing me :>
00:06 <@cryptic1> i doubt it
00:06 <@cryptic1> probably the reverse
00:07 < m4221> cryptic1: he has been sexually harassing me
00:07 < mkillebrew> nobody desires you sexually
00:08 < m4221> cryptic1: mkillebrew is sexually harassing me now
00:09 < mkillebrew> post lewds.
00:10 < m4221> ^ cryptic1
00:10 <+DrGibby|> cryptic1: get back to work
00:11 < m4221> DrGibby|: get back to your cube
00:11 <+suttin> hey, let me run this by you guys. Part of our server build process at work needs to include a way to automatically create security groups in Active directory. I was thinking about writing a script to do that and then put it behind an API
00:11 <+suttin> yay nay?
00:11 <+MillerBOSS> Hay behind the bay
00:12 <+MillerBOSS> :P
00:13 <+MillerBOSS> DrGibby| knows the answer suttin
00:13 < voidstar> kick it back to HR, consult bae
00:13 <+DrGibby|> if you can script it, go for it suttin
00:13 < czarbomba> hepatitis a outbreak in the city
00:13  * czarbomba checks newspaper for local anime cons
00:13 <+DrGibby|> lol
00:14 <+suttin> DrGibby|: the script part isn't what I'm worried about, its about making that script into an api endpoint
00:14 < m4221> czarbomba: do anime cons usually have debauchery?
00:14 < czarbomba> they usually have hunterkll
00:15  * DrGibby| shrugs
00:15 <+suttin> so like put:3000/api/adgroupadd with a json paylod of whatever you need to create an ad group
00:22  * MillerBOSS looks at DrGibby| 
00:22  * MillerBOSS looks at DrGibby| again
00:22  * m4221 tases MillerBOSS 
00:23 <+MillerBOSS> Come on now. That shit hurts
00:23  * m4221 whips MillerBOSS with a cat6 cable 
00:25 <+MillerBOSS> Its rootsudo
00:25 < rootsudo> oh
00:25 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah
00:25 < rootsudo> im in the middle of bali
00:25 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah?
00:25 < rootsudo> i didn't know i left my irc client running
00:25 <+MillerBOSS> You just ocnnected.
00:27 < rootsudo> MillerBOSS can you whois me and try to connect on port 80
00:28 <+MillerBOSS> Not exactly. I saw waiting for $IP in status bar though
00:28 <+MillerBOSS> ERR_CONNECTION_RESET
00:31 < m4221> Derp, does anyone know what a disk with a flashing question mark means?
00:31 <+MillerBOSS> Means your fucked
00:31 <+MillerBOSS> :)
00:31 < m4221> MillerBOSS: now, it boots to a sad computer
00:33 <+MillerBOSS> Where do you see that m4221?
00:34 < m4221> Right in the middle of screen
00:34 <+MillerBOSS> OK user, what screen?
00:34 < m4221> MillerBOSS: the one built into my msc
00:34 < m4221> mac
00:34 <+MillerBOSS> Do you mean when booting up?
00:35 < m4221> Yes
00:35 <+MillerBOSS> That usually means there is no disk found or something is fucked with he disk you got
00:35 < m4221> MillerBOSS: why won't this work?  I have work to do
00:35  * m4221 calls MillerBOSS's boss
00:35 <+MillerBOSS> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204323
00:36 < m4221> MillerBOSS: the computer is a Macintosh SE/30
00:37 <+MillerBOSS> What in the fuck why
00:37 <+MillerBOSS> Scan the disk?
00:37 < m4221> MillerBOSS: but its so floppy
00:37 <+MillerBOSS> Then to sad computer means no disk found from what I recall
00:38 < m4221> MillerBOSS: do you not see the troll?
00:38 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah right up your ass but I figured I'd play along and troll with ya
00:38 <+MillerBOSS> :D
00:38  * m4221 shoves the troll up your back door
00:39  * m4221 shoves the troll up MillerBOSS's back door
00:40 < czarbomba> m4221 was watching the scrambled channels again
00:40 <+MillerBOSS> Shit I lost track of time. Started 40 minutes ago https://twit.tv/live-popout/74431
00:45 <+MillerBOSS> So I entered a few of m BTC addresses here and I have some coins to get from BTC forks but its confusing to know what is trustworthy to use or not http://www.findmycoins.ninja/
00:52 < czarbomba> IT'S A TRAP
00:52 <+MillerBOSS> YUGE TRAP
01:05 < Hunterkll> woah
01:05 < Hunterkll> i didn't know cryptic1 was a wedding planner
01:05 < Hunterkll> http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2018/04/20/bride-orders-450-mcdonalds-burgers-for-wedding-guests-who-can-say-no-to-mcdonalds-cheeseburger.html
01:11 < czarbomba> is it true your WON name was "spankbank187", hunterkll
01:11 < Hunterkll> #1 WON didn't have usernames
01:11 < Hunterkll> #2 usernames were set client side
01:11 < czarbomba> steam, then
01:12 < Hunterkll> #3 - my last WON used username was probably [RMC]C.Sgt-HQS1-Hunterkll
01:12 < Hunterkll> in CS 1.5
01:12 < Hunterkll> before I flipped to steam
01:12 < Hunterkll> and still in CS 1.5 steam usernames weren't used
01:12 < czarbomba> HQS1
01:12 < czarbomba> cs 1.5 was pre-steam
01:12 < Hunterkll> HQ Squad 1 or something
01:12 < Hunterkll> nope
01:12 < Hunterkll> 1.6 came out during steam
01:12 < czarbomba> yup
01:12 < Hunterkll> my steam account dates to 2003
01:12 < Hunterkll> WON and steam ran side by side for a while
01:12 < czarbomba> won was 1.5. you had to do the update to use team
01:12  * czarbomba has the 1.5 disc with WON logo
01:12 < Hunterkll> you could run both
01:12 < Hunterkll> yes
01:13 < Hunterkll> I have a 1.3 disc somewhere
01:13 < czarbomba> i steadfastly refused steam
01:13 < Hunterkll> and a 1.02 starcraft disc with mac os 9 support
01:13 < Hunterkll> lol
01:13 < czarbomba> don't think i opened an account with them until gta4 was out
01:13 < Hunterkll> I used pirated HL when CS was just a mod still
01:13 < czarbomba> oh no it was on bigly sale
01:13 < czarbomba> so i created an account
01:13 < Hunterkll> I played CS before Vavle bought it, so HAH
01:13 < Hunterkll> god
01:13 < Hunterkll> I remember my big black cock
01:13 < Hunterkll> that's what we called my lan party server
01:13 < Hunterkll> fucker would run like 10 HL mod servers at the same time
01:14 < Hunterkll> something like 512MB ram, dual pentium II
01:14 < Hunterkll> some IBM Netfinity model
01:14 < Hunterkll> RAID 5 of 5 10K 36GB SCSI hdds
01:14 < Hunterkll> there's probably a picture of that thing on my myspace too
01:14 < Hunterkll> got it when it was chucked out of a kinkos when fedex was taking over
01:14 < czarbomba> s/myspace/friendster
01:14 <+layer-eight> Hunterkll meant: "there's probably a picture of that thing on my friendster too"
01:15 < Hunterkll> czarbomba, i just regained access to my ancient apple ID / itunes account too lol
01:15 < Hunterkll> the 2004+ cringe is real
01:15 < Hunterkll> :D
01:15 < czarbomba> i had one of those with songs and credits
01:15 < Hunterkll> it was originally an AOL account
01:15 < czarbomba> but apple was a fucking dick about it
01:15 < Hunterkll> when you could log into itunes with AOL id
01:15 < Hunterkll> sucks AIM is gone, i still had an active chat room i used up until the end
01:15 < czarbomba> weeb_honeytrap
01:16 < czarbomba> god fucking damnit what is wrong with this tv
01:16 < Hunterkll> that old dual P2 was IBM through and through
01:16 < Hunterkll> BSP and ASP designations, DASD for the raid array
01:17 < Hunterkll> it was bleeding mainframe terminology
01:17 < Hunterkll> lol
01:18 < aleph-> lol
01:19 < aleph-> Sup' punters
01:20 < Hunterkll> yea
01:20 < Hunterkll> had to be a netfinity 5000 series
01:20 < Hunterkll> like this one http://www.evanshomepage.com/ibm/ but the pentium 2 version
01:21 < Hunterkll> which was launched around '98 or so
01:21 < Hunterkll> fell into my hands around '03-04
01:21 < Hunterkll> yup
01:21 < Hunterkll> czarbomba, CS1.5 came out June 2002, 1.6 Jul 2003
01:21 < Hunterkll> so my steam account was born just after 1.6
01:21 < xe0n> haha yeah i remember lan parties in the 90s
01:22 < Hunterkll> xe0n, my big black cock could run like 10 HL servers at once
01:22 < Hunterkll> lol
01:22 < Hunterkll> 512MB dual PII 450s or 400s
01:22 < Hunterkll> 5x 36GB SCSI drives, probably 10K, in RAID5
01:22 < Hunterkll> lol
01:22 < xe0n> i remember going to a few, and then leaving within an hour, no alcohol, and way too nerdy
01:22 < Hunterkll> LOL
01:22 < Hunterkll> thrown out from when fedex bought up kinkos
01:22 < Hunterkll> yea
01:22 < Hunterkll> mine were a lil better
01:22 < Hunterkll> weed, alcohol, games
01:22 < Hunterkll> lol
01:22 < Hunterkll> evolved over time
01:22 < xe0n> nice
01:22 < Hunterkll> still had weed and booze
01:22 < Hunterkll> ah good times
01:23 < Hunterkll> lan parties. my introduction to hotboxing. at 16.
01:23 < Hunterkll> lol
01:23 < xe0n> im pretty sure i went to a few ust for the weed lol
01:23 < xe0n> just*
01:23 < Hunterkll> cryptic1's early years: https://i.imgur.com/BEMJLXy.jpg
01:24 < xe0n> LOL!!!
01:24 < xe0n> thats gold
01:24 < xe0n> having said that, P2s were horrible
01:24 < xe0n> that slot loading cpu thing
01:24 < xe0n> lol
01:24 < xe0n> i dont miss that junk.
01:24 < Hunterkll> it was because of cache speed, etc
01:25 < xe0n> yeah i know
01:25 < xe0n> im just saying, it was a junk design lol
01:26 <@JollyRgrs> that's not cryptic1
01:26 <@JollyRgrs> that's felda
01:26 <@JollyRgrs> and that was last year
01:26 < xe0n> LOL
01:26 < xe0n> hommeeerunnn
01:27 < xe0n> sup JollyRgrs
01:27 <@JollyRgrs> the sky
01:27 < czarbomba> that kid has a mullet. i thought felda was born totally bald
01:28 <@JollyRgrs> he wasn't born yesterday
01:28 <@JollyRgrs> gosh!
01:28 <@cryptic1> yeah thats felda
01:28 < czarbomba> maybe his mother just made him up like verne troyer
01:28 < czarbomba> RIOP
01:28 < czarbomba> *RIP
01:29 < Gencade> guys my brother is in the hospital with compartmental bleeding in his leg
01:29 < Gencade> is he fucked?
01:29 < czarbomba> everyone will remember where they were when prince died. everyone remembers where they were when hilary duff died. but will you remember where you were when mini-me died?
01:29 < czarbomba> sounds like something for surgery
01:29 < Gencade> Fuck
01:29 < czarbomba> so i guess it's up to his insurance and the surgeon(s)
01:29 < Gencade> doubley fuck
01:29 < czarbomba> unless "compartmental" means "shit's contained for now", who knows
01:29 < czarbomba> call dr. house and see what he says
01:30 < Gencade> well fuck what's hisn umber
01:30 < Gencade> number*
01:30 < czarbomba> i guess you'd have to look up that hospital where he works
01:30 < xe0n> lol i heard mini-me passed away
01:30 <+MillerBOSS> Why not drill the Dr Gencade ?
01:31 < Gencade> MillerBOSS, because why
01:31 < czarbomba> damn, bro, laughing at a dead little person. cold blooded
01:31 <+MillerBOSS> That is what I would be doing
01:31 <+MillerBOSS> If you are curious
01:31 < Gencade> Wasn't curious >.>
01:31 <+MillerBOSS> You were 06:29:15 PM  Gencade	is he fucked?
01:31 <+MillerBOSS> :)
01:31 < czarbomba> last time millerboss tried to drill his dr, he ended up in the trunk of a bmw tied up with soiled scrubs
01:32 < Gencade> MillerBOSS, >.> I meant is he going to live
01:32 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah but she was worth it though
01:32 <+MillerBOSS> Gencade 👉 Yeah why not drill the Dr for that info?
01:32 < czarbomba> that wasn't a female doctor millerboss :(
01:32 < Gencade> because idk
01:32 <+MillerBOSS> Well here va ja ja worked as normal.
01:33 <+MillerBOSS> s/here/her
01:33 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS meant: "Well her va ja ja worked as normal."
01:33 < czarbomba> plastic surgeons are doing remarkable work
01:33 <+MillerBOSS> Was extra juicy even. :\
01:33 <+MillerBOSS> Must be
01:34 < Gencade> yall are weird
01:34 <+MillerBOSS> This is normal Gencade
01:34 < Gencade> no
01:34 <+MillerBOSS> Live a little.
01:34 < Gencade> never
01:34 < Gencade> I prefer to wallow in grief and anguish
01:35 < czarbomba> the mkillebrew method
01:35 <+MillerBOSS> Good luck Gencade
01:44 < czarbomba> anyone here living a secret life as a mod youth named "english jack"?
01:45 < sammm> hey guys, I have a problem, we have a large number of EC2 instances with unique security groups which are set up so we can RDP/ssh into them from our subnet
01:46 < sammm> we are migrating to a new subnet and I need a way to edit ALL of the security groups to include the new subnet... any ideas?
01:50 < Alternity> script it?
01:52 < xe0n> lol
01:54 < sammm> thats the idea
01:55 < enix> aws api
01:55 < enix> https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/APIReference/API_DescribeSecurityGroups.html
02:01 < czarbomba> you'll know it when the hook hits ya https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnxNspxp1j0
02:01 <+layer-eight> YouTube Issues - Flojo by 2016-05-20T04:11:14.000Z (duration: 3:31) on Fri May 20 11:11:14 UTC 2016, 2016-05-20T04:11:14.000Z views
02:03 < rpifan> has anyone deployed pritunnel
02:46 < nohusuro> o/
02:50 <+suttin> \0
02:56 <+DrGibby|> westworld season two, lads
02:57 < czarbomba> let the robotitties commence
02:58 < voidstar> archer season 9 on wednesday :D
02:58 <+DrGibby|> psh
03:03 <@Nostalg14c> Morning.
03:03 <@Nostalg14c> Mrrrdasdasdasd
03:04 < voidstar> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1_VsyLAGuk
03:04 <+layer-eight> YouTube Burak Yeter - Tuesday ft. Danelle Sandoval by 2016-07-16T07:00:00.000Z (duration: 3:11) on Sat Jul 16 14:00:00 UTC 2016, 2016-07-16T07:00:00.000Z views
03:25 < sideup66> anyone in here hanging out with programming knowledge
03:29 < abakedapplepie> define knowledge
03:29 < abakedapplepie> just shoot the question
03:29 < rpifan> nop
03:29 < rpifan> but i have a question for u
03:29 < rpifan> about vpns and pritunenl and openvpn
03:30 < sideup66> im trying to figure out in my wpf program how to get a slide transition going in my application
03:30 < sideup66> like for the tab
03:30 < sideup66> i want each tab to slide into the next
03:30 < abakedapplepie> wpf?
03:31 < sideup66> yes
03:31 < sideup66> or any format, if oyu know how to make a tab control work with a sliding animation
03:32 < aleph-> Oooh.
03:32 < aleph-> I definitely wanna see HP's new Zbooks in may.
03:32 < abakedapplepie> beats me, ive never done anything like that
03:32 < abakedapplepie> windows apis or ui shit
03:33 < aleph-> Lightweight and thin convertible notebook with touchscreen, 8th gen i7, 64GB RAM, discrete GPU, 4TB of storage.
03:33 < aleph-> Sign me up!
03:39 <+suttin> aleph-: got a page?
03:43 < aleph-> Look for it in a sec.
03:48 < xe0n> got rice
04:02 < nohusuro> sideup66: https://www.google.com.au/search?q=WPF+transitions ?
04:02 < sideup66> dude....thanks for the obvious, why does everyone assume i am not researching this
04:02 < sideup66> =\
04:06 <@JollyRgrs> sideup66: b/c that's all they know about the topic
04:12 < nohusuro> yup
04:12 < nohusuro> sorry, that's as far as I can help :/
04:13 < nohusuro> did the things you tried in there not work sideup66 ?
04:13 < nohusuro> like, maybe a visual example of what you're trying to achieve would help, or a minimal example project we could look at
04:14 < sideup66> think of say a mobile app
04:14 < sideup66> you know you you can just maybe grab a piece of the screen at times and swipe, and itll maybe jump to the next
04:14 < sideup66> this will just be done on a desktop with a button, but that "slide" effect
04:14 < nohusuro> slide effect between what?
04:15 < sideup66> screens
04:15 < nohusuro> with android, you're changing views or activities
04:15 < sideup66> like maybe you can swipe over to the next menu
04:15 < nohusuro> and it's build into the framework to work with gestures
04:15 < nohusuro> built*
04:16 < nohusuro> Telerik has a WPF TouchManager
04:16 < nohusuro> https://www.telerik.com/blogs/presenting-the-wpf-touchmanager
04:17 < nohusuro> https://www.reddit.com/r/csharp/comments/4ap66n/material_design_in_xaml_transitions_api/
04:17 < nohusuro> perhaps even that framework?
04:18 < sideup66> maybe
04:18 < sideup66> okay i have a example in an actual app
04:18 < nohusuro> https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/expression/en-US/aec96856-9e01-49d6-b0d0-944f06c05492/how-to-apply-transition-animation-between-wpf-forms?forum=wpf
04:18 < sideup66> youd see this on mobile, ie you know how in instagram
04:18 < nohusuro> this example seems to do pretty much what you're after, and it links to the code project link in the first google link I sent.
04:18 < nohusuro> How is this different to what you're after?'
04:18 < sideup66> if someone uploads multiple images, you can just swipe and it slides to the next one
04:19 < sideup66> you know about that?
04:19 < sideup66> i want my tabs to essentially do that, when the user clicks next
04:19 < nohusuro> I don't use instagram, but what you're asking for doesn't sound any different to the links I've posted.
04:20 < sideup66> that last link you posted...is bang on what i was looking for
04:20 < sideup66> thank you!
04:20 < nohusuro> which was also in the first link I posted on the google results :P
04:20 < sideup66> gotta dig deeper now to make it apply to what im working on
04:20 < sideup66> thanks man
04:22 < sideup66> prolly just getting burned from obsessive googling
04:24 < xe0n> loll
04:27 <@JollyRgrs> sideup66: so what you're saying is... people googling for you is what you needed?
04:27 < sideup66> stfu JollyRgrs
04:27 < sideup66> i was stuck and just burning out from looking at it
04:27 < sideup66> im now working on implimenting it
04:29 < nohusuro> that's when you stand up and walk away for 15 minutes
04:29 < nohusuro> or work on something else
04:30 < sideup66> though im not getting very far
04:31 < Casteil> aww yeah
04:31 < Casteil> forgot I took this shot earlier today https://i.imgur.com/cOUzzyH.png
04:34 <@JollyRgrs> Casteil: what's that supposed to be?
04:34 <@JollyRgrs> i mean, besides garden edging
04:34 < Casteil> one of my landscaping edgers that I powerwashed earlier today
04:34 <@JollyRgrs> ah
04:34 <@JollyRgrs> you shoulda finished that one :P
04:35 <@JollyRgrs> i mean, unless you like it like that
04:42 < nojeffrey> What is the GDPR? The GDPR is a comprehensive data protection law that replaces existing European privacy laws and strengthens the protection of personal data in an increasingly data driven world. The GDPR is enforceable in each EU member state and gives individuals greater control over their personal data.
04:42 < nojeffrey> Who does it affect? The GDPR applies to any organisation that processes personal data of EU individuals, regardless of whether the organisation has a physical presence in the EU
04:42 < nojeffrey> So if I'm in Australia, the EU can enforce their law on us?
04:50 < hug> nojeffrey: Yes.
04:53 <+DrGibby|> a+ episode of Silicon Valley
04:54 < Hunterkll> nojeffrey, well, if you don't do business in the EU, then you can feel free to ignore it, i suspect
04:55 < Hunterkll> facebook's shifting a lot of their user agreements to a different corporate structure to get non-EU citizens out of GDPR scope
04:55 < Hunterkll> for example
04:55 < Hunterkll> well, slightly different case, but still
04:55 < nojeffrey> Hunterkll Yeah what I thought too
04:55 < nojeffrey> From ##security: By EU preference, it's against everyone, especially anyone with EU customers/clients.   But realisiticaly, it largely impacts anyone who has an actual EU 'presence' business wise, and even then as Facebook just showed you can loophole out of it by basically assigning all privacy 'control' to an out-of-EU company office.
04:56 < Hunterkll> well, facebook has business presence there, so they're ensared for EU citizens
04:56 < Hunterkll> they can shift the agreements, but they still, since they have offices in the EU, have to obey
04:56 < nojeffrey> Yep
04:56 < Hunterkll> Facebook, Apple, and Microsoft ireland offices closing in 3 ... 2 ... ;)
04:58 < hug> Hunterkll: ...No, that's not how the GDPR works.
04:58 < Hunterkll> in terms of enforcement, yes
04:58 < Hunterkll> letter of law? no
04:58 < hug> In terms of enforcement, no.
04:58 < Hunterkll> So you're saying the EU can come after me for violating their laws when i solely operate an online presence from the US
04:58 < hug> Yes.
04:58 < Hunterkll> even though we have no reciprocal laws
04:59 <+A-KO> GDPR is whack lol
04:59 < hug> https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbestechcouncil/2017/12/04/yes-the-gdpr-will-affect-your-u-s-based-business/#5290c9f86ff2
05:00 < hug> It only affects you if any EU citizen uses your service.
05:00 < Hunterkll> And how am I supposed to know? IP Geolocation is inaccurate as all hell
05:01 <@JollyRgrs> now, what if you are an EU citizen who is on vacation in US and uses your service?
05:01 < Hunterkll> I might ask name and email address, which would be covered
05:01 < hug> Well the facile answer is that you require them to send proof of their EU citizenship, at which point you comply with their request.
05:01 < hug> JollyRgrs: Yep, still an EU citizen, can request deletion under GDPR.
05:02 < hug> Itinerant workers? Can use GDPR.
05:02 < Hunterkll> The organization would have to target a data subject in an EU country. Generic marketing doesn’t count. For example, a Dutch user who Googles and finds an English-language webpage written for U.S. consumers or B2B customers would not be covered under the GDPR. However, if the marketing is in the language of that country and there are references to EU users and customers, then the webpage would be considered targete
05:02 < Hunterkll> d marketing and the GDPR will apply.
05:02 < Hunterkll> so then, for me, it wouldn't apply
05:02 < Hunterkll> so this makes more sense than a blanket "if the user is EU, it applies"
05:03 < hug> Wait, where are you getting this?
05:03 < Hunterkll> you must be explicitly targeting the market
05:03 < hug> Not from the GDPR articles, surely.
05:03 < Hunterkll> hug: the article you linked, on page 2
05:03 < Hunterkll> click 'next'
05:03 < Hunterkll> at the bottom
05:03 < hug> Yeah I uh
05:03 < Hunterkll> so yes, i'd have to be explicitly trying to transact EU business
05:03 < hug> Don't think that's how the GDPR works, I don't think.
05:03 < Hunterkll> that's what your article said
05:04 < Hunterkll> Who are likely U.S. candidates to fall under the GDPR’s territorial scope? U.S.-based hospitality, travel, software services and e-commerce companies will certainly have to take a closer look at their online marketing practices. However, any U.S. company that has identified a market in an EU country and has localized Web content should review their Web operations.
05:04 < hug> Oh I just linked it because it had the relevant bit on enforcement. ;p
05:04 < Hunterkll> it actually doesn't have any relevant bits on actual enforcement mechanisms
05:05 < Hunterkll> There are still questions about how the EU will enforce these actions against U.S. and other multinational companies doing business over the Web. The EU is serious about a uniform data and privacy law for its market and has already changed the Web practices of major U.S. companies.
05:05 < Hunterkll> "still questions"
05:05 < hug> Yeah which basically means "no one has gone in front of a judge yet".
05:05 < Hunterkll> Well, how are they going to get a judgement against me when i've violated no US law and i'm not doing business explicitly in the EU?
05:05 < hug> https://gdpr-info.eu/art-3-gdpr/
05:06 < Hunterkll> I've violated no laws of my country, AND i have no business presence
05:06 < hug> his Regulation applies to the processing of personal data of data subjects who are in the Union by a controller or processor not established in the Union, where the processing activities are related to:
05:06 < hug>     the offering of goods or services, irrespective of whether a payment of the data subject is required, to such data subjects in the Union;
05:06 < Hunterkll> yes, i'm aware of what it says
05:06 < Hunterkll> i'm also saying it's legally unenforcable over here
05:07 < Hunterkll> now, if i were transacting business, running a ecommerce site, etc (green man gaming actually just did the opt in thing) then i'd be concerned because i could be locked out of those markets as an enforcement action
05:07 < Hunterkll> or had an office there, i'd be double boned
05:07 < hug> I mean
05:07 < hug> You can continue what you're doing
05:07 < Hunterkll> but running a say, porn site in california that uses a US payment processor
05:07 < Hunterkll> they just can't come after me at all, legally
05:07 < hug> but if the EU decides to make an example of you, you're fucked.
05:07 < Hunterkll> sure, i can't open an office there with my business then
05:08 < hug> And they will do it in a "legal" fashion.
05:08 < Hunterkll> they may fuck me over there, but they can't come after me over here
05:08 < Hunterkll> because i've broken no laws in my own country, and we have no reciprocal treaties covering this type of scenario
05:10 < hug> I don't think international law works quite in the way you think it works.
05:10 < hug> The enforcement isn't carried out by the US.
05:10 < nojeffrey> So could Australia make a law that says if 1kb of data is in a breach of Aus citizen, max fine of say 20% annual global turnover?
05:10 < Hunterkll> All of my assets, business, everything, is in the US and held by US structures, and has never left the border, legally speaking. except for the fact that EU citizens can access my site because it's on the internet
05:11 < Hunterkll> "Moreover, the DPA may order the suspension of data flows to a recipient in a third country or to an international organization if applicable."
05:11 < Hunterkll> yea
05:12 < hug> Okay so let's pretend for a second that you run afoul of the GDPR, and the EU takes notice, and you refuse to comply because you're "not in the EU".
05:12 < hug> Do you think you will suffer no consequences?
05:12 < Hunterkll> they can order a site block in the EU
05:12 < hug> Okay. That's all you think will happen?
05:12 < Hunterkll> What do you think could happen?
05:12 < hug> Depends on the extent of what the EU wants to happen.
05:13 < Hunterkll> Well, since i'm not targeting the EU directly, i'm not under GDPR anyway regardless, but still
05:13 < Hunterkll> The GDPR does direct the EU to develop international cooperation methods
05:13 < nojeffrey> Worst case is "Organizations can be fined up to 4% of annual global turnover for breaching GDPR or €20 Million"
05:14 < Hunterkll> but as of yet, and especially since the old safe harbor stuff got struck down in the old US-EU agreement in 2015
05:14 < Hunterkll> there's no avenues yet
05:14 < nojeffrey> So could the EU fine Hunterkll's US business of 4%
05:14 < Hunterkll> no, because i'm not in the scope of the GDPR anyway, but the rest is theroetical
05:14 < hug> They could levy the fine, at which point Hunterkll will refuse to pay it, and then <court system>
05:14 < hug> Which would fuck Hunterkll six ways to Sunday regardless of whether or not he wins.
05:15 < Hunterkll> in the case i've presented, i'd just point out i'm not marketing to the EU and case closed
05:15 < hug> That is not how the courts work. :p
05:15 < Hunterkll> that's how the GDPR is written.
05:15 < hug> No, it's really not.
05:17 < hug> Again, "This Regulation applies to the processing of personal data in the context of the activities of an establishment of a controller or a processor in the Union, regardless of whether the processing takes place in the Union or not."
05:18 < Hunterkll> Territorial applicability
05:18 < Hunterkll> two rules: Have an establishment in the EU, OR "in the context of the activities of such an establishment" whether in the EU or not
05:19 < Hunterkll> there's a two pronged test here
05:19 < Hunterkll> is the activity of the controller in respect of that processing mainly or entirely directed at that Member State? and
05:19 < Hunterkll> does that controller have a representative in that Member State, who is responsible for that activity and for representing the controller in the administrative and judicial proceedings relating to the processing of the data concerned?
05:19 < Hunterkll> if you satisfy both requirements, then you fall under one of the two applicability clauses of the GDPR in article 3 section 1
05:19 < Hunterkll> section 2 require monitoring of behavior in the EU
05:19 < Hunterkll> or sales of goods
05:20 < hug> Actually it looks like you're right there -- as soon as you mention any of the countries in the EU though, you're outta luck.
05:20 < Hunterkll> so section 1 is out, section 2 i'd have to ship to the EU
05:20 < hug> The actual GDPR test you're looking for is here: https://gdpr-info.eu/recitals/no-23/
05:20 < Hunterkll> if an EU customer signs up, buys from me, ships to a drop ship service, that then ships to the EU
05:20 < Hunterkll> i'm off the hook
05:20 < Hunterkll> since i only ship to the US
05:21 < hug> Yes.
05:21 < rpifan> what is going on>?
05:21 < hug> But as soon as you offer billing in Euro, or ship to Europe, you're now liable.
05:21 < Hunterkll> hug: Except if i use a payment processor that just pays me in USD
05:21 < Hunterkll> such as paypal, etc
05:21 < Hunterkll> You could pay me in swiss francs for all i know
05:21 < hug> If you put pricing in Euro, then. ;p
05:22 < Hunterkll> there ya go
05:22 < Hunterkll> ;)
05:22 < Hunterkll> so my porn site example, i'd be golden
05:22 < Hunterkll> i charge subs in US $ and don't explicitly market to anyone
05:22 < Hunterkll> so, GDPR can suck it, in that example
05:22 < Hunterkll> :D
05:23 < Hunterkll> oh! there's also an 'equipment' requirement
05:23 < Hunterkll> cookies count
05:23 < Hunterkll> however, we all know there's shitloads of ways to do stuff without cookies
05:23 < Hunterkll> so profiling without any equipment usage in the EU can slide by
05:23 < hug> Also, if Equifax were to happen again, they'd be completely boned.
05:24 < Hunterkll> doesn't equifax have a business in europe though
05:24 < Hunterkll> like an actual operation wtih offices and shit
05:24 < hug> Yes
05:24 < hug> And a .co.uk
05:24 < hug> Which by itself is enough to put them on the line.
05:24 < Hunterkll> you can /voluntarily/ become eligibel to fall under enforcement via an FTC program
05:24 < Hunterkll> but
05:25 < Hunterkll> you also get FTC shieliding too
05:26 < rpifan> i thought the GPDR was a good thing for us humans
05:26 < Hunterkll> hug: looks like enforcement is literally entirely unkown. FTC & Dept of Commerce haven't come to any type of agreement, so there's nothing ... yet
05:29 < Hunterkll> there's the existing swiss agreements, but those predate
05:29 < hug> Hunterkll: "yet" is very important. :p
05:30 < Hunterkll> that "yet" will give scope and ground in US law on how it will funciton
05:30 < Hunterkll> we have some precedence here
05:30 < Hunterkll> the equipment test is cute, though, which means that my server logging doesn't count
05:30 < Hunterkll> since in the EU IP addresses are often treated as PII
05:30 < Hunterkll> hmmm
05:31 < Hunterkll> well, that's not a business funciton, is it then?
05:31 < Hunterkll> anyone wanna come up with a really convoluted argument to make it so that any server running fail2ban must comply? :P
05:32 < hug> Which equipment test is this? Link?
05:32 < xe0n> yeah we need to do some GPDR stuff
05:35 < Hunterkll> GDPR redefined 'equipment' to include non-physical stuff like cookies. unlike the old EU directive
05:35 < Hunterkll> lemme find it
05:47 <@Nostalg14c> Which dickhead was arguing to me about mortages vs renting
05:48 < xe0n> loll
05:48 < Casteil> I don't think I was arguing it, but I've probably talked about it here
05:52 < enix> Nostalg14c: WHAT MATE COME AT ME LETS GO 1v1 FGT
05:52 < Casteil> having a mortgage doesn't always make sense, but if you can have a mortgage for not that much more than what you'd rent at, you're effectively just throwing money away
05:52 < Casteil> at least with a mortgage you're earning equity on the house
05:52 < nohusuro> Nostalg14c: *raises hand*, a bunch of us were a week or two ago
05:52 <@Nostalg14c> Casteil: triggered
05:52 < nohusuro> but it comes down to, it depends on the persons situation
05:53 < enix> It NEVER does. You should always aim to own a property even if it's leased out while you rent wehre you want to live
05:53 <@Nostalg14c> fk off
05:53 <@Nostalg14c> ultra triggered
05:53 < enix> You should ALWAYS strive to build your personal equity
05:54 <@Nostalg14c> The first year of your mortage, your payments are 83% intereste.
05:54 < enix> So what
05:54 < enix> On the 30th it's 100% principal
05:54 < enix> s/pal/ple
05:54 <+layer-eight> enix meant: "On the 30th it's 100% principle"
05:54 <@Nostalg14c> So if your mortage is $1000/week, same price as renting 1000/week.
05:54 < nohusuro> what about someone who has massive crippling debt. Makes sense for them to get a mortgage too? :P
05:54 < Casteil> Nostalg14c: a lot of people pay rent pretty damn close to what a mortgage would cost them
05:55 <@Nostalg14c> https://affordanything.com/is-renting-better-than-buying-should-i-rent-or-buy/
05:55 < enix> nohusuro: you should aim to reduce your debt
05:55 <@Nostalg14c> Read this. At least the first part.
05:55 <@Nostalg14c> Then come back.
05:55 < nohusuro> Casteil: but you also have to factor in repairs, rates (yearly council fees), etc.
05:55 < Casteil> if you pay $1000/mo rent instead of having a $1000/mo mortgage you're wasting money.
05:55 <@Nostalg14c> Fo real, go read the post.
05:55 < Casteil> nohusuro: taxes/insurance are usually factored in mortgage
05:56 < nohusuro> Casteil: uh, since when?
05:56 <@Nostalg14c> ye, since when lol.
05:56 < nohusuro> no one gets a mortgage to pay their yearly rates, or shit
05:56 < nohusuro> maybe stamp duty
05:56 < Casteil> uhhhhhhh
05:56 < enix> Im going to fix this radio station
05:56 < enix> Nostalg14c: then i'm going to come back and write a large block of text
05:56 <@Nostalg14c> enix: dont come back
05:57 <@Nostalg14c> until you read the article
05:57 <@Nostalg14c> coz i cbf retyping it all.
05:57 < Casteil> do either if you fuckers have mortgages?
05:57 <@Nostalg14c> no coz im not a retard.
05:57 < Casteil> lol.
05:57  * DrGibby| farts on #reddit-sysadmin 
05:57 < nohusuro> no because I'm saving to not have a mortgage for 30 years.
05:57 < nohusuro> My partner and I can save for a bigger down payment and reduce our mortgage by renting
05:57 < enix> Nostalg14c: you can literally buy a house for 400k where you live
05:57 < enix> why teh fuck not buy a house
05:58 < Casteil> renting only makes sense if you can rent for less than half what your mortgage might be
05:58 <@Nostalg14c> coz thats 400k of wasted money?
05:58 < Casteil> chances are that's not the case
05:58 <@Nostalg14c> 400k for a shitbox anyway.
05:58 <+DrGibby|> something something equity
05:58 < nohusuro> I'm renting a $1.3m house for $370 a week...
05:58 < enix> In what case is it wasted
05:58 < nohusuro> in a city location
05:58 < enix> Nostalg14c: do you actually INVEST the difference you would be paying in a mortgage
05:58 <@Nostalg14c> because? why the fuck do i want to buy 700k for a 400k ohuse?
05:58 <@Nostalg14c> enix: yes
05:58 < Casteil> nohusuro: Unlikely
05:59 <@Nostalg14c> 90% of my money is invested
05:59 < Casteil> but hey
05:59 < Casteil> this is the internet
05:59 < nohusuro> Casteil: not unlikely at all
05:59 <@Nostalg14c> bar living + emergency funds
05:59 <@Nostalg14c> Casteil: our housing market is fucked here atm.
05:59 <@Nostalg14c> very over supplied.
05:59 < Casteil> 'over here'?
05:59 < nohusuro> I live in south perth, a short 5 minutes from the city, on the river, with a rental market that tanked in the past few years
05:59 < Casteil> australia?
05:59 < nohusuro> this house that used to be $540 / week is now $370
05:59 < The_Dv8or> hey, one of you homos go out and get me ice cream
05:59 < Casteil> then sure, I get why you can't justify a mortgage
05:59 < Casteil> your real estate market is fucked
05:59 <+DrGibby|> tbh given the state of r-s and /r/sysadmin I think people make poor choices.
05:59 < Casteil> but here, it's not
06:00 < nohusuro> Casteil: so what you're saying is. "It depends on the situation" ? :P
06:00 < Casteil> it'd cost me probabably $1500/mo to rent my house
06:00 < Casteil> my mortgage (after tax+insurance escrow) is ~$1180
06:00 <@Nostalg14c> plus maintenance
06:00 <@Nostalg14c> repairs
06:00 <@Nostalg14c> rennovations
06:01 < xe0n> DrGibby|: haha so true
06:01 < Casteil> adding value
06:01 < nohusuro> I don't call repairs to my car adding value :P
06:01 <+DrGibby|> I RENT SOMETHING THAT HAS ZERO VALUE HAHAHA
06:01 < Casteil> cars don't retain value.
06:01 < Casteil> cars depricate rapidly
06:01 < Casteil> depreciate
06:01 < nohusuro> houes don't always either
06:01 < nohusuro> houses*
06:02 < Casteil> houses don't depreciate like cars.
06:02 <+DrGibby|> cars != houses
06:02 <@Nostalg14c> cars are definitely the worst.
06:02 < Casteil> stupid comparison to make
06:02 < Casteil> and this conversation is going downhill
06:02 <@Nostalg14c> But don't inherently retain either.
06:02 < nohusuro> just saying, repairs don't add value
06:02 < nohusuro> they may restore value
06:02 < nohusuro> is the point I was making
06:02 <+DrGibby|> nohusuro: on properties?
06:02 < nohusuro> yes
06:03 < nohusuro> on all things
06:03 < Casteil> a 'repair' adds value if you're updating an old appliance
06:03 <+DrGibby|> you're smoking fucking crack
06:03 < nohusuro> that's not a repair Casteil
06:03 <@Nostalg14c> thats.. not a preair?
06:03 < nohusuro> that's a replacement
06:03 < Casteil> fucking semantics
06:03 < nohusuro> or an upgrade / renovation
06:03 < Casteil> there is no repairing appliances a lot of the time
06:03 <+DrGibby|> Casteil+++
06:03 < Casteil> stop being fucking asshats
06:03 <@Nostalg14c> Thats the point?
06:03 < nohusuro> I repair all of my shit, so uhh..
06:03 < nohusuro> I've never paid for a TV in my life
06:04 < nohusuro> other than 30 cents in capacitors or voltage regulators
06:04 < xe0n> yeah my old house mate used to repair tvs 10 years ago
06:04 < xe0n> find a few on the curb, few bits and pieces, fixed lol
06:04 <+DrGibby|> jesus shit this chat is fucking dumb
06:04 < xe0n> haha
06:04 <@Nostalg14c> DrGibby|: ye you're part of the problem.
06:04 < Casteil> regardless
06:05 < Casteil> 1180 mortgage trumps $1500 rent
06:05  * DrGibby| humps Nostalg14c 
06:05 <@Nostalg14c> ye na
06:05 <+DrGibby|> wanna know a protip?
06:05 < Casteil> that's $300/mo I can allocate to 'repairs'/improvements and I'm gaining equity
06:05 <@Nostalg14c> no
06:05 <@Nostalg14c> 80% of that is straight interest
06:05 <+DrGibby|> dont spent 100% of your housing budget on a house
06:05 <@Nostalg14c> so you're gaining $200 equity not $1180
06:05 < Casteil> ...
06:06 < Casteil> Nostalg14c: thanks captain obvious
06:06 < Casteil> you're absolutely brilliant.
06:06 < Casteil> and no, 80% isn't interest
06:06 <+DrGibby|> 50% of it should be on the payment
06:07 <+DrGibby|> considering all of you fucks dont know what 16" on center means
06:07 < Casteil> still; earning equity regardless
06:07 < Casteil> DrGibby|: I'm quite the stud myself, thanks
06:07 <+DrGibby|> Casteil: except you
06:07 <+DrGibby|> <3
06:08 < Casteil> you've seen my budget kitchen update :P
06:08 <+DrGibby|> there is furious googling going on right now
06:08 <@Nostalg14c> eh?
06:08 <@Nostalg14c> I linked an article that broke it all down for you.
06:08 < Casteil> DrGibby|: haha, probably
06:08 <+DrGibby|> have a good night <3
06:08 < Casteil> Nostalg14c: and I just gave you a counter
06:08 < Casteil> you're flat out wrong
06:08 <@Nostalg14c> What counter?
06:08 <@Nostalg14c> You clearly didn't read the article
06:08 <@Nostalg14c> lol.
06:08 < Casteil> $1500 rent vs a $1180 mortgage
06:09 <@Nostalg14c> Congratulations on a very specific case.
06:09 <@Nostalg14c> For a hypothetical situation.
06:09 < Casteil> hardly very specific
06:09 <@Nostalg14c> That doesnt' exist.
06:09 <@Nostalg14c> lol.
06:09 < Casteil> it's actually quite common for rent to be more expensive than a mortgage here in the US
06:10 < Casteil> because people will have a mortgage and rent it out for profit; and they're responsible for repairs so they have to rent it above mortgage so they're able to make a profit
06:10 <@Nostalg14c> Back in a bit, lunch time.
06:10 < Casteil> this is a bit like arguing with a devout trump supporter
06:10 < Casteil> "fake news!" "deep state!"
06:11 < Casteil> "but crooked hillary!"
06:21 < Casteil> that is to say, completely unproductive
06:21 < The_Dv8or> I actually got SCCM to start installing… its a fucking miracle
06:25 < xe0n> haha
06:27 < xe0n> https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/04/wildlife-watch-radiated-tortoises-poached-madagascar/ wow
06:34 < Hunterkll> feels like 2004
06:34 < Hunterkll> where's my black flag cd
06:35 < voidstar> add my things that rhyme with orange album
06:35  * Hunterkll slips Fallen into voidstar's cd player
06:36 < nohusuro> anyone listened to the new a perfect circle album?
06:37 < xe0n> a perfect circle are still around? cool
06:47 <+NinjaStyle> God of war is pretty fun
07:00 <@Nostalg14c> Mback.
07:05 < ayeitzabee> Yeet
07:07 < enix> cbf aruging houses btw Nostalg14c
07:07 < enix> im too sick
07:07 < enix> so anyone here hacked  woocommerce? I need to do different 'formats' for each product
07:25 <@Nostalg14c> enix: all g. if people wanna lose their own money then thats not my problem.
07:26 < genr8_> im back
07:32 < abakedapplepie> enix: i havent but i know they have some decent documentation
07:32 < enix> abakedapplepie: not really
07:33 < enix> All I want to do is create a custom product view
07:33 < enix> So that I can adjust how my product image displays but I just cant work it out. Ideally I would love to have 'formats' or 'templates' like they have for posts, so that I can adjust it based on the manufacturer
07:34 < abakedapplepie> im almost positive you can do that
07:34 < abakedapplepie> i myself havent done it
07:34 < enix> it would make sense hey
07:34 < enix> the thing that pisses me off is that the search terms for such information are a minefield :(
07:35 < enix> And when I do find good information, it kind-of assumes that I'm already a woocommerce/wordpress developer that understands shorthand like "create product-single.php template file and it'll use that"
07:35 < enix> Yes but where do I create that file? Do I need to add meta data to the php comment? etc etc
07:38 < abakedapplepie> lol
07:38 < abakedapplepie> https://docs.woocommerce.com/document/template-structure/
07:39 < abakedapplepie> but that doesnt help much they just use predefined output blocks
07:39 <@Nostalg14c> enix: complaining about developer documentation for developers
07:39 <@Nostalg14c> when you arent a developer
07:39 <@Nostalg14c> is kinda silly ya know.
07:40 <@Nostalg14c> theres' very standard file structure it uses, just like wordpress does.
07:42 <@Nostalg14c> https://www.sitepoint.com/customize-woocommerce-product-pages/
07:42 <@Nostalg14c> This is what you awnt.
07:52 < plop> morning nerds
07:55 < The_Dv8or> sup plop
07:56 < plop> not much :D
07:56 < The_Dv8or> I just got my home lab SCCM going
07:56 < The_Dv8or> fuckin PITA, but eventually I got the install to kick
07:56 < plop> nice
07:56 < The_Dv8or> I hate that I have to learn this, but people keep asking for it, and I needs me a jobby job
07:57 < The_Dv8or> I just want to get to the point where I can answer the stupid interview questions about it
07:57 < plop> and you have fun while toying with it
07:57 < The_Dv8or> not as much fun as some other stuff
07:57 < The_Dv8or> learning new VMware shit is more fun
07:57 < plop> true
07:58 < The_Dv8or> Im also trying to set up a public facing DNS server on Ubuntu so I can actually use a domain name Ive been parking for years
07:59 < plop> it is always the DNS
08:02 < xe0n> The_Dv8or: it's straight forward to install, you using any of the ps scripts to do all of the prereq stuff?
08:02 < xe0n> add the system container, blah blah
08:02 < The_Dv8or> the hell it is straightforward
08:02 < plop> is it harder than installing sharepoint?
08:02 < The_Dv8or> especially if youre using an external SQL server
08:02 < The_Dv8or> I havent installed sharepoint in years
08:02 < xe0n> plop: prob along the same lines ahha
08:03 < plop> haha ok
08:03 < xe0n> The_Dv8or: ah well, you've written yourself some kickass docu, so moving forward you wont have any issues :P
08:03 < The_Dv8or> why should I, everyone else already has
08:03 < xe0n> https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/ConfigMgr-2012-R2-e52919cd
08:03 < The_Dv8or> well, not for 2016, but either way
08:03 < xe0n> that's it lol
08:03 < The_Dv8or> screw 2012, Im on new stuff
08:04 < xe0n> it suppors the new builds lol
08:04 < The_Dv8or> showing proficiency in 2016 should put me ahead of hte game
08:04 < xe0n> and i think the title is referring to config mgr 2012 r2, not windows..
08:04 < xe0n> but whatever, you're all set lol
08:04 < The_Dv8or> ah well, either way, I got it working
08:04 < The_Dv8or> and I have a somewhat good understanding of the hows and whys of what I fixed
08:05 < xe0n> sweet, you're all set
08:05 < xe0n> now to learn to use the application :P
08:05 < xe0n> i miss configmgr
08:09 <+NinjaStyle> Ayyyy
08:10 <+NinjaStyle> It's me, the cool one
08:10  * The_Dv8or f arts on NinjaStyle to warm him up
08:11  * NinjaStyle deploys fart shield
08:11 < The_Dv8or> too late
08:12 < plop> i can see where it is going
08:12  * NinjaStyle dodges
08:12 < The_Dv8or> too late
08:12 < plop> NinjaStyle uses smoke bomb +1
08:12  * The_Dv8or deploys MegaMaid
08:12  * NinjaStyle deflects
08:13  * NinjaStyle throws distraction rice Crispy and hides in the shadows
08:13  * xe0n smokes a cone
08:18 < munsking> Hello, does anyone know where windows 10 gets its printer names from? i shared a few printers on a server but windows doesn't show the names i've given them
08:19 < The_Dv8or> prolly the MAC address
08:20 < xe0n> windows doesn't know the share names?
08:21 < The_Dv8or> I guess it should
08:21 <+A-KO> dunno, works fine here O.o
08:21 < xe0n> Name the printer, give it a sharename, it'll probably display the name of the printer...
08:21 < munsking> nope, not the mac address, but i think i just found the real issue, "search for printers" doesn't find the shared ones, just the printers directly...
08:21 < xe0n> have you ticked, show in directory?
08:22 < The_Dv8or> did you set it up on a print server and all that
08:22 < xe0n> or whatever the option is lol
08:22 < The_Dv8or> then connected it with a TCPIP port
08:22 < munsking> The_Dv8or: i didn't, the admin before me should have, i guess i have to double check and maybe re-do
08:22 < The_Dv8or> hehe “admin before me” is the most untrustworthy guy on the planet
08:23 < xe0n> riiight
08:23 < mkillebrew> The best workaround is to pop Linux on there and run lpd instead, samba if you absoluately must allow some windows jerk to use it.
08:23 < munsking> i think he's evil or mentally handicapped
08:23 < xe0n> lollll
08:23 < The_Dv8or> mkillebrew: too much trouble if theyre mostly Winders users
08:23 < munsking> mkillebrew: i'd do that in a heartbeat but bossman won't allow it
08:24 < xe0n> that's called making a simple issue complicated lol
08:24 < mkillebrew> if you don't know how to do it, sure
08:24 < The_Dv8or> I really only use Linux for public facing shit and other places where I dont have to do much with the server after
08:24 < mkillebrew> anything with which you're unfamiliar is complex
08:25 < xe0n> yes, because blowing away the os and installing something new is the solution for a printer not being named correctly ;)
08:27 < The_Dv8or> I finally got my first DMCA notice the other day, after stealing shit for 20 years
08:27 < xe0n> haha
08:27 < mkillebrew> Blowing away the printer is a more permanent solution
08:27 < xe0n> ^
08:27 < xe0n> totally
08:27 < xe0n> devils machine
08:27 < The_Dv8or> amen to that, but fuckin users love to print shit
08:27 < mkillebrew> strap some binary explosive to a gallon of gasoline for better effect
08:27 < munsking> xe0n: ... you were right, the "show in directory" boxes weren't ticked, now the printer names make sense
08:28 < The_Dv8or> heh
08:29 < xe0n> sweet, you owe me a beer.
08:29 < munsking> xe0n: come to austria and i'll give you a crate
08:30 < xe0n> sweet!
08:30 < Wannabejrsysadm> uuh wtf
08:30 < Wannabejrsysadm> So this morning our accountant came into her office, started her PC, went to open a window turned her back
08:30 < munsking> you have to be of legal drinking age though... which is 16 here :D
08:30 < xe0n> and pc was gone
08:30 < Wannabejrsysadm> to smoke and a beeping computer
08:30 < xe0n> yep, stolen
08:30 < Wannabejrsysadm> she pulled the plug
08:30 < xe0n> loll
08:31 < Wannabejrsysadm> and it smells burned
08:31 < Wannabejrsysadm> dunno what's burned tho
08:31 < Wannabejrsysadm> CPU or PSU ?
08:31 < xe0n> i'm nearly double that age munsking ;)
08:31 < Wannabejrsysadm> what's most likely ?
08:31 < xe0n> lol!!
08:31 < xe0n> why dont you open it up and see for yourself
08:31 < Wannabejrsysadm> I openened
08:31 < Wannabejrsysadm> can't see anything at first glance
08:31 < mkillebrew> are you actually retarded
08:31 < nohusuro> Wannabejrsysadm: do the sniff test
08:31 < Wannabejrsysadm> I did the sniff test :p
08:31 < nohusuro> probably let the magic smoke out of the PSU
08:31 < xe0n> all he did was smell is own ass
08:31 < nohusuro> some blown caps
08:32 < munsking> xe0n: same, i just like to remind people not every country is as silly as america when it comes to drinking ;)
08:32 < mkillebrew> pop the CPU in a microwave. If it's bad, it'll smoke.
08:32 < mkillebrew> check the RAM the same way
08:32 < nohusuro> -.-
08:33 < nohusuro> he might take you seriously mkillebrew
08:33 < mkillebrew> then he deserves to
08:34 < xe0n> loll 21 drinking age
08:34 < xe0n> classic
08:34 < xe0n> lol
08:35 <+NinjaStyle> Probably quitting my job tomorrow. Wish me luck!
08:35 < xe0n> have you been offered a new role?
08:35 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah
08:36 < The_Dv8or> how much you clearin in hte new gig
08:36 < xe0n> LOL
08:36 <+NinjaStyle> Like salary?
08:36 < The_Dv8or> yeah
08:36 < mkillebrew> rude
08:36 < xe0n> ^
08:36 <+NinjaStyle> A lot more, like 50%
08:36 < xe0n> nice one
08:36 < The_Dv8or> what, like Im your coworker or somethin?
08:37 < The_Dv8or> we’re all workin the same shit in different companies, whats the big deal
08:37 < mkillebrew> you're exceptionally common.
08:37 <+NinjaStyle> I just don't wanna count my chickens before I sign the offer
08:38 < xe0n> yeah dont resign until you sign on the dotted line
08:38 < Wannabejrsysadm> i can't imagine
08:38 < Wannabejrsysadm> getting 50% more somewhere else ;o
08:38 < Wannabejrsysadm> I earn 2450€ / month
08:38 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah kinda caught me by surprise tbh
08:39 < Wannabejrsysadm> that would put me on 3675€ ;O
08:39 < Wannabejrsysadm> wich would be pretty high wage I think :p
08:39 < ceofreak> Goode
08:39 < Wannabejrsysadm> how old are you ? NinjaStyle ?
08:39 <+NinjaStyle> 27
08:39 < Wannabejrsysadm> dangg
08:39 < The_Dv8or> 2450 a month?  That seems kinda low
08:39 < Wannabejrsysadm> i'm 24
08:39 < The_Dv8or> oh
08:39 < Wannabejrsysadm> The_Dv8or Europe
08:39 <+NinjaStyle> I'm old I guess
08:40 < Wannabejrsysadm> I get 1650€ Net each month
08:40 < The_Dv8or> is shit cheaper there?
08:40 < The_Dv8or> I was told cars and shit are more expensive
08:40 < Wannabejrsysadm> yeah
08:40 < Wannabejrsysadm> but we don't have to pay hospital shit
08:40 < ceofreak> Wannabejrsysadm: thats good for your age
08:40 < The_Dv8or> Israeli chick I know told me Jeeps run like 100K there
08:41 <+NinjaStyle> Wat
08:41 < The_Dv8or> hot lesbo doctor
08:41 < Wannabejrsysadm> ye :(
08:41 < Wannabejrsysadm> alot of people drive small cars here
08:41 <+NinjaStyle> Wtf
08:41 < xe0n> yeah Wannabejrsysadm, aint bad for your age, i was earning a lot less at that age
08:41 < Wannabejrsysadm> where as in MURICA I see alot of big cars
08:41 < ceofreak> xe0n +
08:41 < Wannabejrsysadm> xe0n indeed its not bad :P
08:41 < The_Dv8or> I was earning shit until 5 years ago when I finally realized I was grossly underpaid
08:41 < ceofreak> started earning big around 30
08:41 < ceofreak> "big"
08:42 < The_Dv8or> at 36 I finally realized I should be earning more than 40k
08:42 < Wannabejrsysadm> also i have 0 expenses as I still live with my mom :')
08:42 <+NinjaStyle> My salary was probably 45k at 24
08:42 <+NinjaStyle> Or less even
08:42 < xe0n> 0 expenses! you're rocking it Wannabejrsysadm
08:42 < The_Dv8or> yeah, but how do you nail chicks at your mom's
08:42 < The_Dv8or> “come on up to my racecar bed”
08:43 < The_Dv8or> or guys, if the case may be, although guys are more understanding
08:43 < xe0n> LOLL
08:43 < Wannabejrsysadm> you want to see my Star Wars pillow ? :P
08:43 < Wannabejrsysadm> that's my pickup line
08:43 < Wannabejrsysadm> works everytime
08:43 <+NinjaStyle> I wanna get a graph of my year by year income
08:44 <+NinjaStyle> I wish TurboTax did that
08:44 < Wannabejrsysadm> I guess the only way to earn "alot" more is by changing jobs
08:44 < Wannabejrsysadm> or roles
08:44 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah
08:44 < The_Dv8or> true dat Wannabejrsysadm
08:44 < Wannabejrsysadm> my plan is to change every 2 years lol
08:45 < munsking> i currently get 1400€/month... 38.5 hours/week, win srv admin, linux srv admin, client admin, support, programming (C#, PHP, java/android), making sure marketing doesn't break wordpress again
08:45 <+NinjaStyle> Although I left my last job for like 3k more
08:45 < munsking> i think i'm getting ripped off
08:45 < Wannabejrsysadm> munsking dang
08:45 < Wannabejrsysadm> that's not much :P
08:45 < Wannabejrsysadm> depening on where you live in Europe tho
08:45 < munsking> austria
08:45 < Wannabejrsysadm> like in Romania those are good wages
08:45 < The_Dv8or> I wont even look at a job that pays me less than $100K a year
08:45 < Wannabejrsysadm> Austria I don't know shit about :P
08:45 < munsking> should get 1800 next month
08:45 <+NinjaStyle> You guys get screwed in Europe
08:46 < Wannabejrsysadm> The_Dv8or how much does a porche cost in Murica ?
08:46 < The_Dv8or> depends on the model I guess
08:46 <+NinjaStyle> ^
08:46 < Wannabejrsysadm> porsche panamera 4s
08:47 <+NinjaStyle> 2018 MSRP is like 109k
08:47 < Wannabejrsysadm> I would have to save up 7 YEARS
08:47 < The_Dv8or> the 4 starts around 100k
08:47 < Wannabejrsysadm> to pay a porche
08:47 < Wannabejrsysadm> while living at my mom
08:48 < Wannabejrsysadm> hahaha
08:48 < Wannabejrsysadm> while in Murica it's prolly a more achievable dream :P
08:48 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah most def
08:49 <+NinjaStyle> Even infosec gets fucked in Europe
08:49 < The_Dv8or> Id have to have at least a 7 mil net worth to buy a new Porsche though
08:49 < xe0n> lol
08:49 < Wannabejrsysadm> NinjaStyle well we have free healtcare
08:49 < Wannabejrsysadm> So I wouldn't say we get fucked
08:49 <+NinjaStyle> :)
08:49 < Wannabejrsysadm> Healthy people get fucked in Europe yeah :')
08:50 <+NinjaStyle> Well even the most expensive insurance plans here are like 400 per month
08:50 <+NinjaStyle> So 4800/yr isn't bad
08:51 <+NinjaStyle> My company is like 200/ mo for insurance
08:52 <+NinjaStyle> So yeah you're still getting fucked over
08:53 < Wannabejrsysadm> :(
08:53 < Wannabejrsysadm> I should come over
08:53 <+NinjaStyle> We hate immigrants now haven't you heard
08:54 <+NinjaStyle> I'm jk, just don't move to the South. It's hard to immigrate but if you're smart you can do it
08:55 < mkillebrew> it's not free, you pay for it
08:56 <+NinjaStyle> True, your effective tax rate is probably like 10% more
08:57 <+NinjaStyle> Or more depending on where u live
08:59 < enix> Please... aussies invented national racism http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3259/3230825807_8eb727f1ea_o.jpg
09:00 < The_Dv8or> I need a fargin JOOOOOOOOOOB!!!!
09:00 <+NinjaStyle> Go get one
09:00 < xe0n> LOL!!
09:00 < xe0n> I just pissed off one of the helpdesk guys here
09:00 < xe0n> storms out
09:00 < xe0n> dumbass
09:01 < The_Dv8or> American or Indian
09:01 < xe0n> nz
09:01 < xe0n> lol
09:02 < aleph-> Heh
09:02 <+NinjaStyle> My old co-worker was a kiwi
09:02 < xe0n> he pinches an e3 license from someone who is n maternity leave, who he even helped set up remote access for while she's out of the office
09:02 < The_Dv8or> are they more American or Indian like
09:02 <+NinjaStyle> Def more American-like
09:02 < xe0n> hahah yeah
09:03 < xe0n> hell get over it
09:03 < xe0n> he'll*
09:03 <+NinjaStyle> My old kiwi friend was actually really good at helldesk
09:04 <+NinjaStyle> I was often impressed with the amount of bullshit he could handle
09:04 < The_Dv8or> Wonder if its time to buy a new NAS and make Ma pay for it
09:05 <+NinjaStyle> Ma ?
09:05 < The_Dv8or> Mommy
09:05 < The_Dv8or> she was gonna buy me a new car stereo, but it was gonna be like 1000 bucks for everything. Fuck that
09:05 < enix> wish my mum had money
09:05 <+NinjaStyle> Smoke em if you got em
09:05 < The_Dv8or> My ma busted her hump to retire rich
09:06 <+NinjaStyle> My mom has money but I try to not let her spend it on me
09:06 < The_Dv8or> now that Im relatively independent, I dont mind it so much
09:06 < enix> really? busted her hump? That's the phrase you want to run with
09:07 < The_Dv8or> saved and scraped and made sure the 401k was stocked
09:08 <+NinjaStyle> It's hard to build up a good 401k
09:08 < The_Dv8or> someone needs to manufacture a wireless backup cam with a little dongle that goes in the back of the head unit
09:08 <+NinjaStyle> With the contribution limit
09:08 < The_Dv8or> so the stereo thinks its wired, but its actually wireless
09:08 < The_Dv8or> for a car
09:09 <+NinjaStyle> The_Dv8or: that would not be hard to build
09:09 < The_Dv8or> so why the fuck hasnt anyone done it
09:09 <+NinjaStyle> Idk
09:09 < The_Dv8or> too much shit that makes sense to have, but it dont exist
09:09 < The_Dv8or> like a rubber enforced bacon press so I dont scratch my pans
09:10 < enix> Probably bandwidth related
09:10 < Gasphault> Sounds like you need to start inventing
09:10 < The_Dv8or> I could, but it seems like a bitch to market and all that
09:10 < enix> marketing is easy
09:10 < enix> manufacturing is hard
09:10 < The_Dv8or> all that shit
09:10 < enix> been there, done that, lost the hair
09:12 < Gasphault> So my coworker started an upgrade of our websense manager...about 24 hours ago. he waited until about 18 hours ago to tell us there was a problem.
09:12 <+NinjaStyle> If you guys had 60k sitting in your bank, how would you use it?
09:12 < Gencade> NinjaStyle, invest it
09:12 <+NinjaStyle> In what?
09:13 < Gencade> Mutual funds
09:13 <+NinjaStyle> For retirement?
09:13 < enix> I'd buy or start a small hospitality venue
09:13 < Gencade> yeah
09:13 <+NinjaStyle> enix: like an air bnb property?
09:13 < enix> NinjaStyle: nah like a small cafe in an in-demand area
09:14 <+NinjaStyle> Oh interesting
09:14 < enix> or something quirky that's relevant for your neighborhood, something that will attract people but not require too much work
09:14 <+NinjaStyle> I think a brewery would be fun
09:14 < enix> Yeah if there isnt much local competition
09:14 <+NinjaStyle> But Colorado is flooded with them
09:15 < enix> Sacked
09:15 <+NinjaStyle> I want passive income
09:15 < enix> You know what actually got me thinking on a different track; the plumbis
09:15 <+NinjaStyle> I think buying rental property would work for me
09:16 <+NinjaStyle> enix: lol wat
09:16 < enix> rick and morty meme. an object 'every household has' but noone knows what it does
09:17 <@Nostalg14c> rental property is far from passive NinjaStyle
09:17 < enix> Nostalg14c: don't you start
09:17 <@Nostalg14c> index fund is best option.
09:17 <+NinjaStyle> Nostalg14c: I would hire a property manager
09:17 < Gencade> Nostalg14c, ++
09:17 < enix> like a bitter old man
09:17 <@Nostalg14c> goodbye 'income' then lol
09:18 <+NinjaStyle> They only take like 10%
09:18 < enix> you wold have to hire a prop manager to avoid getting sued
09:18 < enix> if you're doing long term rentals with tennants and shit then yeah you need to operate through an agent to prevent yourself self-incriminating
09:19 <+NinjaStyle> I think ideally I would do mid term rental, 1-2 months at a time
09:19 < enix> We currently have one manager per staff member in this office... wow.
09:19 < enix> NinjaStyle: whatever works for your area
09:19 < Gencade> fuck DrGibby| frfr
09:19 <+NinjaStyle> Based on my location I think that would be ideal
09:20 < enix> NinjaStyle: but maybe do like $20,000 into stocks/funds and $40,000 into investment.
09:20 <+NinjaStyle> That's probably smart
09:20 <@Nostalg14c> $0 into stocks
09:20 < enix> omg
09:20 < enix> why
09:20 <+NinjaStyle> I think I might start an IRA account
09:20 <@Nostalg14c> because its just gambling?
09:20 <@Nostalg14c> stocks are not an investment.
09:20 < enix> in what world is it gambling
09:20 <+NinjaStyle> Nostalg14c: most funds do stocks
09:20 <@Nostalg14c> Fund is not a stock.
09:20 < enix> this isnt futures or anything liek that, this is legitimate shares in a business
09:21 <@Nostalg14c> ETF sure.
09:21 <+NinjaStyle> Stocks are part of the fund usually
09:21 < enix> So you put in for a blue chip which pays dividends
09:21 <@Nostalg14c> ..
09:21 < enix> funds are just diversified portfolios you buy into
09:21 <+NinjaStyle> Even the vanguard target funds have stocks in them
09:22 <@Nostalg14c> enix: for the recordim a++ on funds (index funds)
09:22 <@Nostalg14c> not individual stock picking.
09:22 <+NinjaStyle> I wouldn't pick them myself
09:22 <+NinjaStyle> Fuck that life
09:22 <@Nostalg14c> 0% stocks, 100% index funds is what I meant.
09:23 < enix> Right
09:23 < enix> Still no harm in buying $10,000 of Telstra shares (bad example)
09:23 <@Nostalg14c> ye
09:23 <@Nostalg14c> waste of $10k fam
09:23 < enix> In what world
09:23 < enix> everything is a waste of money to you
09:23 <@Nostalg14c> Well, not waste, just high risk.
09:23 < enix> 100%
09:23 < enix> Higher risk more like it
09:23 <+NinjaStyle> If you buy your own stocks "buy what you know"
09:23 < enix> ^
09:24 <@Nostalg14c> Right.. and what do oyu know?
09:24 <+NinjaStyle> Technology
09:24 < enix> That you're fucking annoying
09:24 <@Nostalg14c> More than the fund managers that do this for a living?
09:24 <@Nostalg14c> That don't beat the index funds?
09:24 <+NinjaStyle> Maybe
09:24 < enix> You're looking at growth of capital
09:24 < enix> I'm talking about dividends
09:25 <@Nostalg14c> wtf u think growth is lol
09:25 <@Nostalg14c> dividends is just payout instead of reinvestment.
09:25 <+NinjaStyle> I would be very selective if I picked my own, but I would likely just choose a performant fund
09:25 < enix> Yeah which is good if you dont want to reinvest in that same business
09:25 < Gencade> Wow look at all the dave ramseys in here
09:25 <+NinjaStyle> Who is that
09:26 < Gencade> .yt who is dave ramsey
09:26 <+layer-eight> YouTube Live Like No One Else - Dave Ramsey's Story - https://youtu.be/r1NJzEYARlM
09:26 <+NinjaStyle> Fuck YouTube
09:26 < enix> woa man
09:26 <+NinjaStyle> I'm in bed
09:27 < enix> tmi
09:27 <+NinjaStyle> Not gonna watch a video
09:27 < Gencade> suit yourself
09:27 <+NinjaStyle> I'm naked
09:27 < Gencade> ...
09:27 < Gencade> s/naked/a little bitch
09:27 <+layer-eight> NinjaStyle meant: "I'm a little bitch"
09:28 <+NinjaStyle> s/bitch/naked
09:28 <+layer-eight> NinjaStyle meant: "I'm a little naked"
09:28 < enix> s/naked/naked bitch
09:28 <+layer-eight> NinjaStyle meant: "I'm a little naked bitch"
09:28 < Gencade> s/naked bitch/teapot
09:28 <+layer-eight> NinjaStyle meant: "I'm a little teapot"
09:28 <+NinjaStyle> I'll accept that one
09:28 < enix> s/a little teapot/short and stout
09:28 <+layer-eight> NinjaStyle meant: "I'm short and stout"
09:28 <+NinjaStyle> Lol
09:28 < Gencade> here is my handle
09:29 < Gencade> here is my... snout?
09:29 < enix> c-c-combo breaker
09:29 <+NinjaStyle> Lol snout
09:29 < The_Dv8or> all right, sack time
09:29 < The_Dv8or> see you homos tomorrow
09:29 < enix> Fuck so I blew off my old printer after he fucked me around twice
09:29 < enix> New printer I thought would be A++
09:29 < enix> He hasn't replied all day and I need an urgent print
09:29 < enix> Fuck.
09:30 <+NinjaStyle> I was thinking printer like hardware until you said "he"
09:31 <+NinjaStyle> The second he actually
09:31 < enix> yeah basically making a human your print queue
09:31 < enix> legit i think i need to buy my owner printer & plotter
09:31 < enix> this is getting ridiculous. Two major orders held up due to shitty printers
09:31 <+NinjaStyle> Plotters are such a pita
09:31 < enix> s/printers/printhouses
09:31 <+layer-eight> enix meant: "this is getting ridiculous. Two major orders held up due to shitty printhouses"
09:33 <+NinjaStyle> Plotters are like inkjet printers that aren't built like shit
09:33 <+NinjaStyle> So you can actually take them apart and fix them
09:33 < enix> sounds like hell on earth
09:33 <+NinjaStyle> But it comes at a huge cost
09:34 <+NinjaStyle> I've replaced parts on plotters before, midway through I have been like fuck this thing is complicated
09:35 < enix> well now i feel like a cunt
09:36 < enix> my new printer dude just messaged me saying his grandfathers about to pass away
09:36 <+NinjaStyle> :(
09:36 < enix> Now to prove im a cunt; i'm fucked because i dont have someone to print this
09:36 < enix> and i need by like wednesday
09:37 <+NinjaStyle> What do people print these days? Is it done kind of poster?
09:37 <+NinjaStyle> Some*
09:37 < enix> Labels for one of my products
09:38 < enix> I print onto vinyl for longevity :)
09:38 <+NinjaStyle> Oh nice
09:39 < enix> yeah best decision i made
09:39 <+NinjaStyle> I only ever 3d print shit anymore
09:39 < enix> oh jealous
09:39 < enix> I've never had to the money to buy a 3d printer
09:39 < enix> they look like fun
09:39 <+NinjaStyle> They're cheap now days
09:40 <+NinjaStyle> I have the monoprice maker select 2
09:41 <+NinjaStyle> Only 300 usd
09:41 < enix> that looks mad. what kinda of stuff do you print?
09:41 < enix> Price is coming up at 1400 aud for me
09:41 < enix> oh wrong model
09:41 <+NinjaStyle> I've printed some prototypes for pi zero project cases and some silly shit
09:42 <+NinjaStyle> Keys and stuff too
09:42 < enix> keys!/
09:42 < enix> like
09:42 < enix> actal keys
09:42 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah
09:42 < enix> wow okay this flus hitting me i have to jet
09:42 < enix> Cya mate
09:43 <+NinjaStyle> Later
09:44 <+NinjaStyle> I should sleep, i'm procrastinating tomorrow lol
10:19 < Trapdoor> The Project Honey Pot system has spotted the IP address 192.168.5.88 with at least one Honey Pot. However, none of its visits have resulted in any malicious activity yet.
10:19 < Trapdoor> really
10:19 < Trapdoor> really?
10:19 < meowschwitz> tes,
10:20 < meowschwitz> duh
10:22 < jumi> morning
10:28 < Trapdoor> fuck oracle
10:28 < Hatsjoe> Morning
11:05 < Apooti_> mornin'
11:11 < Apooti_> anyone here with experience moving from windows NLB to a linux based solution?
11:12 < munsking> one of my co-workers, a self proclaimed web developer, has been using the wrong database for 4 months, she hasn't asked me what the problem could be till today...
11:14 < Apooti_> munsking, 4 months is not bad, i have one doing about the same thing and struggling with permissions for 3 weeks
11:16 < munsking> Apooti_: mine didn't get permission errors or anything, just that the website showed stuff that wasn't in the database and the other way around, that's because the database she used was a year old backup of the one she should use, which someone else needed ages ago but never bothered to delete again...
11:16 < munsking> aparantly it's my fault, because of openVPN, somehow
11:16 < munsking> jfc
11:18 < Apooti_> nice, mine is just a moron who won't ask why he cant edit the database because he's sure the sun shines from between his buns, while he has no admin rights to fix it himself...
11:18 < munsking> lol
11:18 < munsking> does he at least know he's a moron?
11:19 < Apooti_> amazingly he found that phpMyAdmin was installed on that same server (probably something i forgot about ages ago) and he keeps connecting to it and trying to edit things, but he has no permissions
11:19 < Apooti_> and no he doesn't he's probably blinded by that same sun
11:22 < munsking> amazing xD
11:24 < Apooti_> yea, working with morons is always a treat
11:25 < Apooti_> but i guess its part of the job
11:27 < meowschwitz> stab stabby mcstab
11:27  * meowschwitz gives Apooti_ a screwdriver
11:28 < Apooti_> meowschwitz, why use a puny screwdriver when i have a pair of power-shears
11:28 < Apooti_> and a nailgun
11:29 < Apooti_> still need to find a reason to get a MIG welder at work
11:42 < meowschwitz> Apooti_: can blame it on ayrabs
11:49 < Apooti_> meowschwitz, you can blame everything on them
11:50 < munsking> lol: https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/8e9a7g/delete_mp3_duplicates/
11:52 < ihre> gonna be a pain if the hashes dont compare, which they probably wont  :^)
11:55 < munsking> ihre: they surely wont, different youtube videos lol
11:58 < Apooti_> is Balance or BalanceNG worth anything?
11:59 < Apooti_> and how terrible is the setup
12:00 < ihre> munsking: but its the same track, how is that possible?!?!?!
12:04 < munsking> ihre: inorite, i mean, don't computers nowadays come with like AI on default, it should know!!
12:09 < ihre> that beets option is pretty neat, but it can be a pain in the ass to set that up correctly, and then it probably turns out into a shitshow for identifying/tagging single tracks :p
12:16 <+ktechmidas> guilty pleasure
12:17 <+ktechmidas> I quite *like* phpmyadmin
12:20 < meowschwitz> Apooti_: I can
12:20 < meowschwitz> and do.
12:20 < Reverend> hmm. that navicat thing is better IMHO ... BUT PMA is a pretty darn good have-a-go at DB management in PHP.
12:20 < Reverend> I did use it for some time quite extensively, and it is pretty good, but navicat is way better
12:21 < meowschwitz> I use dbeaver for postgres
12:21 < meowschwitz> remove mysql from premises
12:35 < munsking> Reverend: navicat requires mysql to be accessed from beyond localhost though?
12:44 < ihre> looks like it can connect to remote dbs too, otherwise just port forward 3306 to localhost over ssh
12:51 < Reverend> munsking yeah exactly
13:18 < enix> i need to learn a programming language
13:18 < enix> I cant decide. C has an allure about it, C++ seems way more popular though.. IDK what else
13:19 < enix> I want to build applications with a GUI
13:19 < rhqq> you can even use bash for that XD
13:19 < rhqq> what's the goal/complexity
13:19 < enix> nah
13:19 < enix> I've never written an "application" in the traditional sense; i want to
13:19 < enix> First stop; note taking app
13:24 < enix> any suggestions? :(
13:24 < rhqq> anything, even python is ok
13:24 < enix> Eh I'm good with python
13:25 < rhqq> cpp will kill you with complexity for first weeks, c will killl you with its bluntness
13:26 < rhqq> however cpp+qt with qtcreator and you're done in no time. however that's really far from "real" programming if youre a beginner
13:29 < enix> I feel like visual studio would probably make things easier
13:29 < enix> but 6GB download fuck that
13:30 < rhqq> i told you qtcreator. it's fairly compact.
13:30 < rhqq> and cross-platform
13:38 < Casteil> <enix> I cant decide. C has an allure about it, C++ seems way more popular though.. IDK what else
13:38 < Casteil> <enix> I want to build applications with a GUI
13:38 < Casteil> honestly, I'd probably recommend C#
13:38 < enix> I'm having a look
13:38 < rhqq> ewwwwwwww
13:38 < enix> rhqq:
13:38 < enix> I'll add it to my list
13:40 < Casteil> there's no note taking app you can create that hasn't been done better by someone else >.>
13:40 < rhqq> pretty much, but if he wants to exercise his skills...
13:41 < enix> Casteil: it's personal learning :P
13:42 < ihre> enix: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck :3
13:42 < Casteil> that said... the worst part of learning programming is having an idea and committing to seeing it through
13:42 < rhqq> :E
13:42 < rhqq> good one
13:43 < ihre> 'it is not intended for practical use'
13:44 < rhqq> there were many people with "hold my beer" approach to it ;-)
13:45 < ihre> like rkeene
13:46 < Casteil> ugh
13:50 < JFDkthx> fack
13:50 < JFDkthx> its monday again
13:54 < Wannabejrsysadm> Boys, I have this weird Issue, our old reception lady is recieve meeting requests from other people but she's not in the TO or CC
13:54 < Wannabejrsysadm> can't figure out why D:
13:56 < Wannabejrsysadm> might have something to do with Delegations ?
14:00 < enix> Casteil: here here (re commitment)
14:00 < Casteil> JFDkthx: right? lol
14:01 < Casteil> it's monday and I don't have food
14:02 < JFDkthx> Casteil: we're supposed to go to a concert two ours away tonight, and im already not fucking feeling it
14:02 < Hatsjoe> Wannabejrsysadm: is she in the BCC?
14:03 < JFDkthx> can you bcc meetings
14:03 < enix> wow brainfuck
14:03 < enix> is a brain fuck...
14:04 < rhqq> hmm, meetings, arent these managed by mailing(lists|groups) ?
14:04 < rhqq> then she may be subscribed to such a group
14:05 < Hatsjoe> JFDkthx: no clue, but if someone is receiving invites and is not in the TO or CC then it leaves the BCC or some other weird voodoo
14:06 < rhqq> everything should be in her emails headers
14:06 < Hatsjoe> And since Wannabejrsysadm is running exchange, I'm not ruling out some weird voodoo going on
14:06 < DeVito> Did someone say weird voodoo?
14:17 < enix> This programming thing is fucing with me. I think I have to rebuild my laptop now -.-
14:18 < ihre> wut
14:18 < enix> i'm weird
14:18 < enix> It has so much shit on it, makes it hard to focus
14:18 <+MillerBOSS> what
14:18 < ihre> you could use vms to test different languages, keep it seperated :p
14:19 < JFDkthx> what
14:19 <+MillerBOSS> what?
14:19 < ravioli> WHAT
14:19 <+MillerBOSS> what?!!111
14:19 < ihre> especially easy with lxc, lxc launch <image> x
14:19 < DeVito> ¿que?
14:19 < DeVito> But ihre, that's not a VM~!
14:19 < ihre> uhm
14:19 < ihre> it is .. ?
14:20 < DeVito> It's a container, it's in the name
14:20 < Hatsjoe> what?
14:20 < DeVito> Shared kernel
14:20 < corn266> mornin all
14:20 < Hatsjoe> sup corn266
14:20 < Hatsjoe> feeling corny today?
14:21 < corn266> not until coffee, you feeling hatty today?
14:21 < Hatsjoe> always do
14:24 < enix> I've decided on C
14:24 < corn266> Nice.
14:24 < ravioli> what
14:25 < Casteil> lol
14:25 < Casteil> right in the deep end
14:26 <+MillerBOSS> But what?
14:26 < ravioli> millerboss asking the important questions here
14:27 <+MillerBOSS> Someone has to
14:31 < ihre> DeVito: i stand corrected :p it just almost feels like launching a vm when youre using lxc/lxd, since it does provide a fully isolated env w/ all the complete tools of the distro you're using
14:32 <@cryptic1> morning
14:36 < DeVito> ihre, yeah, I have nothing against LXC, I just don't want someone else reading and conflating containers and VMs
14:37 <+giant_it_burrit> morning cryptic1
14:38 < DeVito> Where's my morning, giant_it_burrit?
14:38 <+giant_it_burrit> did you say good morning?
14:38 <+giant_it_burrit> nope?
14:38 <+giant_it_burrit> no gm for you
14:38 <+giant_it_burrit> REEEEEEEEEEEE
14:38 < DeVito> To be pedantic, he didn't say good morning
14:38 < DeVito> Maybe it was a curse
14:40 < Trapdoor> what's so morning about it?
14:40 < DeVito> Good question, let's write up an official inquiry
14:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> mornin fellas
14:43 <+DrGibby|> good mornin
14:43 < DeVito> Good morning, McDonaldsWiFi
14:43 <+DrGibby|> hope you all have a somewhat alright MOnday
14:43 < DeVito> Assuming my Amazon delivery guy isn't kidnapped and held for ransom
14:43 < DeVito> I think it'll be a good day
14:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> I still have 400 more emails to migrate with SkyKick today
14:44 < ravioli> that's the spirit.
14:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> anyone have a desk flash I can borrow?
14:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> flask*
14:45 < DeVito> Never mind, ravioli talked
14:45 < DeVito> Now it's a bad day
14:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> DeVito: least chodeman69 isn't here
14:45 < DeVito> He's here in spirit
14:45 < ravioli> :[
14:46 <@Code_Man65> I have returned
14:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
14:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> DeVito: SHIT
14:46 <+MillerBOSS> We didn't miss you
14:46 <@Code_Man65> I don't believe you MillerBOSS
14:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> I accidentally summoned Code_Man65
14:46 <+MillerBOSS> Believe it buster.
14:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> 07:45:27    McDonaldsWiFi | DeVito: least chodeman69 isn't here
14:46 < ihre> Code_Man65: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/sasl otherwise your mask is ... useless ? ;p
14:47 < tsarbomba> millerboss has been awake for the past 39 hours
14:47 <+giant_it_burrit> Code_Man65: from wherE?
14:47 <@Code_Man65> giant_it_burrit:  Moving and unpacking
14:47 <+MillerBOSS> 07:45:56 AM 	Code_Man65 (~Code_Man6@63.149.183.5) joined the channel
14:47 <+MillerBOSS> 07:45:56 AM 	Code_Man65 (~Code_Man6@63.149.183.5) left IRC (Changing host)
14:47 <+MillerBOSS> 07:45:56 AM 	Code_Man65 (~Code_Man6@unaffiliated/code-man65/x-4804736) joined the channel
14:47 <+MillerBOSS> That is what ihre  is referring to Code_Man65
14:47 <@Code_Man65> Yeah, I know
14:48 < tsarbomba> saslfail
14:48 < Nightcinder> yay i finally got approval for replacing our satellite servers with small boxes
14:48 <+giant_it_burrit> Code_Man65: how was the move?
14:48 < Nightcinder> now i gotta figure out what i want to do
14:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> Nightcinder: what kinda boxes
14:48 <+giant_it_burrit> nucs
14:48 <+giant_it_burrit> nucca
14:48 < Nightcinder> i dunno
14:48 <+MillerBOSS> tsarbomba 👉 Yeah right. I am tired already
14:48 < Nightcinder> all it's running is..3 VM's
14:48 < Nightcinder> i just need a way to failover
14:48 < Nightcinder> without a SAN
14:48 <@Code_Man65> giant_it_burrit:  As far as moves go, not bad (not that any move is ever fun)
14:49 < Nightcinder> or i guess cheap shared storage would work
14:49 < ravioli> i'm not used to being up this early
14:49 < ihre> Nightcinder: drbd
14:50 < tsarbomba> all weekend the royal baby dominated the news cycle
14:50 < Nightcinder> wat dat
14:50 < ihre> distributed replicated block device
14:50 < tsarbomba> so it is possible you may not know that kate and william had another kid
14:50 < rhqq> ihre: you bring bad memories back
14:50 < Trapdoor> fuck kate and william
14:50 < ihre> rhqq: drbd is nice :3
14:51 < Trapdoor> s/kate and william/oracle
14:51 <+layer-eight> Trapdoor meant: "fuck oracle"
14:51 < rhqq> unless it split brains
14:51 < rhqq> ;p
14:51 < ihre> discard reconnect
14:51 < ihre> :P
14:52 < rhqq> yeah, when you know what happened
14:52 < rhqq> ;p
14:53 < rhqq> also would be great to have a dedicated link just for sync
14:53 < rory> Does anyone know if it's wise to enable versioning on the bucket CloudTrail logs get sent to?
14:53 <+MillerBOSS> What in the flying fuck
14:53 < rhqq> i had the worst possible option - drbd on aws
14:53 < rhqq> xD
14:53 < ihre> why not efs ? :o
14:53 < rhqq> that was 2011
14:53 < ihre> ah
14:53 < rory> just don't use s3fs
14:53 < rory> it's so shit
14:54 < rory> we racked up 10s of thousands in S3 API calls
14:54 < rhqq> well, not surprised
14:54 < rory> it is extremely not ready for production
14:54 < rhqq> it does what it's advertised to do
14:54 < rhqq> no
14:54 < rhqq> it's perfectly ready
14:54 < rhqq> you were misusing it
14:54 < rory> no it's also flaky as hell
14:54 < rory> even in the simplest use-cases
14:54 < rory> anyway I won't derail your discussion
14:55 < ihre> its just fuse right? i'd rather use aws s3api in that case, w/ multipart :3
14:55 < rory> EFS is really nice btw
14:55 < rhqq> yeah, basically every IO pulls a copy of file
14:55 < rory> you have to have an EC2 instance as a proxy if you want to do multi-account volume sharing
14:55 < rhqq> modifies it
14:55 < rhqq> and puts it back there
14:55 < rory> problem is our application was going ballistic with recursive listing
14:55 < rhqq> because s3 doesnt allow really ay partial writes
14:56 < rory> anyway is anyone using CloudTrail? Dev has enabled versioning on the bucket and I wondered if there was a reason to do this
14:56 < rory> seems it would rack up costs very quickly
14:58 < tsarbomba> i think millerboss got sucked into the upside-down
14:58 < munsking> how the hell am i supposed to deploy firefox? their guides seem to be missing a lot of info
14:58 <+MillerBOSS> Sadly
14:58 <+MillerBOSS> Can you help me out tsarbomba ?
14:58 < munsking> and if i google it, i just get linked to 3rd party stuff, which i don't want
14:59 <+MillerBOSS> munsking 👉 I use PDQ Deploy
14:59 <+MillerBOSS> There is a free version that will take care of it
14:59 < munsking> pdq ?
14:59 < ihre> rory: i dont think that would make sense either, but to make sure, access logging would be a nice start to see if anything other than cloudtrail is accessing that bucket, or a bucket policy to lock it down to just the services that write to it
14:59 <+MillerBOSS> PDQ, yes munsking
14:59 < munsking> MillerBOSS: ok, i'll have a look
15:00 < munsking> at least that looks like it wasn't last updated in 1003
15:00 < munsking> 2003*
15:00 <+MillerBOSS> It was updated in 2004
15:00 <+MillerBOSS> They push out updates very often actually. Maybe every month or so
15:03 < mistiry> good morning folks
15:05 <+DrGibby|> good morning mistiry
15:07 < GreyKite> How do you maintain the will to live while working IT or does it get better as the pay goes up?
15:08 < Casteil> work toward something you like doing
15:08 <+MillerBOSS> Whats wrong GreyKite ?
15:08 <+MillerBOSS> You want to die?
15:09 < SynMonger> it gets better as you kill off brain cells with your vice of choice (liquor, drugs, bad TV, etc)
15:10 < ihre> GreyKite: heh, the latter doesnt apply :p
15:11 < GreyKite> I'm at the point where I'm wondering if IT is for me. I like working with tech and honestly, I don't mind the users, but fuck management and the teams above me are making me crazy but I've seen the same shit at all the big corps
15:12 <+MillerBOSS> If it was me I'd think about another employer
15:13 <+MillerBOSS> Maybe not a big on?
15:13 <@mistiry> yeah go for small business, with less corporate overhead like the big places have
15:14 < Casteil> making you crazy, how?
15:15 < ihre> smb will land you in the 'just-hack-around-it'/mvp/startup mentality, but ymmv :p
15:15 <@mistiry> the quality of the job varies widely, and you have to find what fits for you
15:16 < Casteil> ihre: yeah lol
15:16 < Casteil> we've established some processes as we've grown but yeah, it's mostly been "just make it happen"
15:16 <@mistiry> some people enjoy being part of a big team with lots of users and offices and such, others like a small shop with <50 users
15:16 <@mistiry> Casteil: i was at a small shop for 7 years until we got purchased by my current employer
15:17 <@mistiry> i know those pains well
15:17 < Casteil> I actually don't mind the lack of bureaucracy
15:17 <@mistiry> i didnt either
15:17 <@mistiry> my biggest issue was budget
15:17 < Casteil> if anything I'm the one establishing it >.>
15:18 < ihre> i moved from an agile startup-to-ipa corp to a super small business, and still not sure about it ... 2 months in
15:18 < Casteil> my company owner isn't stingy with the IT budget
15:18 <@mistiry> a lot of times it can be easier to enact changes at a small palce
15:18 <@mistiry> place
15:18 < Casteil> the location we recently acquired had *terrible* IT setup
15:18 < Casteil> they ended up all getting brand new Latitudes and such
15:19 < Nightcinder> Casteil: sounds like my job
15:19 < Nightcinder> we are deploying 5580's everywhere
15:19 < Nightcinder> and i got a complaint 'it's too bulky'
15:19 < Nightcinder> netbook for you then
15:19 < Casteil> which I think helped smooth over the fact that they have to do a lot of stuff on computer now where before it was just sorta wild west / on paper (and a mess)
15:19 < GreyKite> Yeah, the T470s that we give out is "too big, do you have anything smaller? I've seen smaller ones"
15:20 < Casteil> 5580s aren't bad
15:20 < Casteil> though I do prefer my e7470
15:20 < Nightcinder> i picked the 5580 because numpad
15:20 < Nightcinder> lots of our company wants numpad
15:20 < GreyKite> Nightcinder: do they dock them?
15:20 < Nightcinder> with WD15's yeah
15:20 < rhqq> ehhhhh, why are there no amd based latitudes :(
15:21 < Apooti_> E7470 is sweet: great battery, quality build, nice specs and best of all - compatible with windows 7
15:21 < Nightcinder> because AMD mobile lol
15:21 < Nightcinder> fuck windows 7
15:21 < rhqq> there's no lol on amd mobile
15:21 < Apooti_> fuck 10
15:21 < rhqq> 2400gu are awesome
15:21 < Nightcinder> can't wait till i can migrate everyone off it finally
15:21 < Apooti_> Nightcinder, ah, thats the thing, i'm the only one on 7
15:21 < GreyKite> Fuck Windows?
15:21 < rhqq> damn, i'd even be satisfied with 2200gu
15:21 < rhqq> GreyKite: ++
15:21 < Nightcinder> GreyKite--
15:22 < GreyKite> Don't get me wrong, I'm not handing Linux to users but damn, I'm tired of MS's shennanigans
15:22 < Apooti_> Nightcinder, everything i manage is linux, the several desktops i manage are win10 and i prefer to keep my win7
15:22 < Nightcinder> everything i manage is windows
15:22 < SynMonger> we're already planning to get everyone off windows 7 in case extended support really does end in 2020
15:22 < Nightcinder> i prefer to keep my win10
15:22 < GreyKite> Nightcinder: even servers?
15:22 < Nightcinder> yes
15:22 < rhqq> ewww
15:22 < Nightcinder> even servers
15:22 < Apooti_> poor soul
15:22 < rhqq> everyting i manage is linux
15:22 < Nightcinder> works fine for me
15:23 < Nightcinder> i liked 7 a lot, but i like 10 more
15:23 < Apooti_> 3 reboots and everything is back into production?
15:23 < Nightcinder> 3?
15:23 < enix> fucking python has me out of the habit of using ;
15:23 < enix> lol
15:23 < enix> feels weird
15:23 < rhqq> xD
15:23 < enix> it's the end of the line, thus the end of what I'm writing... get with it gcc!
15:24 < SynMonger> I don't like how little control I have over windows update in 10
15:24 < ravioli> SynMonger: same.
15:24 < Nightcinder> i love it
15:24 < Nightcinder> forces people to update
15:24 < rhqq> lol
15:24 < rhqq>  pretty much /s
15:24 < rhqq> xD
15:24 < ravioli> what if i don't want to update right then
15:24 < Nightcinder> i mean it only forces after you ignored it for a while
15:24 < rhqq> still, i ignored it because it fucks up my computer
15:24 < Nightcinder> i've never had my pc reboot during use
15:24 < Apooti_> but what if i want to ignore it for a little while more?
15:25 < ravioli> i don't have much internets
15:25 < SynMonger> or need to reboot before a presentation
15:25 < Nightcinder> active hours is a thing
15:25 < Apooti_> plus i'm still with the habit of never rebooting
15:25 < Apooti_> hybernate or go home
15:25 < ravioli> so when it starts downloading an update in the background, i know about it because everything slows to a crawl
15:25 < Nightcinder> get better internets
15:26 < ravioli> or i can just not use my windows pc
15:26 < ravioli> haven't started the thing in like a year. too much hassle.
15:26 < Nightcinder> gigabit or bust
15:26 < ravioli> there's no gigabit here.
15:26 < Nightcinder> what do you use normally
15:26 < Nightcinder> linux?
15:26 < ravioli> macbook pro for work
15:26 < Nightcinder> lol.
15:26 < GreyKite> Nightcinder: so I see that you haven't had someone come screaming at you over an update, eh?
15:27 < ravioli> you laff but this thing gives me far better control over updates and stuff.
15:27 < GreyKite> if I didn't have to pay for it, I would be using a mac
15:27 < Nightcinder> i don't really care if they do GreyKite
15:27 < GreyKite> Nightcinder: angry execs are the bane of my existence
15:27 < Nightcinder> i have it all set via GPO
15:27 < Nightcinder> my execs are chill and dgaf
15:27 < ravioli> i've had windows 10 put that massive blue screen over full-screen games that says "YOU NEED SOME UPDATES" with the only button on the screen saying "update"
15:27 < Nightcinder> speaking of which i should probably login to WSUS
15:27 < GreyKite> Nightcinder: remember that I have a window, with a doorbell, where they can find me and yell at me
15:27 < Nightcinder> i have an open door
15:28 < Nightcinder> that's about 15 feet from the large conference room
15:28 < GreyKite> Nightcinder: but then it's on your turf, at the window with the doorbell, the mood is set to "I'm a bitch
15:28 < tsarbomba> can i find you and yell at you
15:28 < Nightcinder> why the hell would you have a doorbell
15:29 < SynMonger> I think I'd have to hook up some random sound effect machine to it
15:30 < SynMonger> maybe it'll be a chime, maybe it'll be a fart
15:30 < Nightcinder> fuck you wsus i don't want to see 'preview of' x update
15:35 < Wannabejrsysadm> Hello Gents, In exchange 2013 and a user is recieving Meeting Requests even tho she is not invited but she's not in the Room Mailbox as delegate
15:35 < Wannabejrsysadm> what can it be ?
15:35 < Wannabejrsysadm> I looked into the permisisons of the calendar of the room mailbox she was there and removed her, send a new meeting request as test but she still retrieved it
15:35 <+MillerBOSS> Solar flares?
15:36 < Wannabejrsysadm> should she logout first before she loses the permission or is there something else on the hand
15:36 < Wannabejrsysadm> :')
15:36 <+MillerBOSS> :P
15:36 <+MillerBOSS> I don't know shit about Exchange else I'd give you a clue
15:38 < Nightcinder> i approved a fuckload of updates including 1709 so maybe somoene will bitch this time GreyKite
15:38 < Nightcinder> makin' it rain on patch tuesday
15:39 < alazare619> i typically dont like buzzfeed stuff but this article is so true...
15:39 < alazare619> https://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/facebook-youtube-fragmentation?utm_term=.ivzjobzQY3#.msOKM7vaER
15:40 < alazare619> basically it compares the progress of facebook/youtube and hte likes vs the roman empire and other civilizations
15:44 <+MillerBOSS> 4043506
15:44 <+MillerBOSS> Have a barcode
15:44 < ravioli> what
15:44 < rhqq> twix
15:44 <+MillerBOSS> Testing out a scanner and I scanned a
15:44 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah
15:45 < rhqq> =]
15:45 < alazare619> ||||| ||| ||||| || ||||||||
15:45 <+MillerBOSS> Google didn't show that with the simple numbers. What did you search?
15:45 < rhqq> i just happen to rememebr it
15:45 < rhqq> no, kidding ;p
15:45 < rhqq> https://www.google.pl/search?num=50&q=barcode%204043506 2nd result to me
15:45 < SynMonger> twix? naughty
15:46 < ravioli> left or right?
15:46 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.buycott.com/upc/04043506
15:46 < rhqq> BOTH :D
15:46 <+MillerBOSS> Right
15:47 <+MillerBOSS> 083046334131
15:47 <+ktechmidas> I needed to do something with Arch... but spent so long setting it up
15:47 <+ktechmidas> now I'm not sure what I needed
15:47 <+ktechmidas> hmm
15:48 < rhqq> you wanted -Syu
15:48 <+MillerBOSS> Hey ktechmidas How goes it over there
15:48 <+ktechmidas> hey MillerBOSS , all good!
15:48 <+MillerBOSS> Great.
15:48 <+ktechmidas> my boss appears to be *slightly* insane
15:48 <+ktechmidas> but as long as he pays me
15:48 <+MillerBOSS> Thats a good thing
15:48 <+ktechmidas> shit's good
15:49 < SynMonger> isn't that what most henchmen to supervillians say?
15:49 <+ktechmidas> oh well... he believes Saturn isn't a planet (?)
15:50 < int0x1C8> what about uranus
15:50 < GreyKite> ktechmidas: hmmmmmm
15:50 <+ktechmidas> it's a portal... and my cat plus his girlfriend and some other beings are manifestations of said portal
15:50 <+ktechmidas> and he's going to prove it with cryptocurrencies
15:50 < GreyKite> ktechmidas: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
15:50 < SynMonger> blockchain or bust
15:50 < tsarbomba> fucking run
15:50 < tsarbomba> RUN
15:50 < tsarbomba> NOW
15:50 < int0x1C8> sounds like he indulged a bit too much on 4/20
15:50 <+ktechmidas> he pays me very well
15:50 <+ktechmidas> for not much work
15:51 <+TuxedoJack> Oh, man. Post-birthday Monday hangover recovery days
15:51 <+TuxedoJack> So good
15:51 < Hatter> Good morning starshine
15:52 < rhqq> TuxedoJack: have a theme for the day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPKNkTzUIMA
15:52 <+layer-eight> YouTube Bojack's Theme    Patrick Carney by 2015-06-24T22:27:41.000Z (duration: 4:25) on Thu Jun 25 05:27:41 UTC 2015, 2015-06-24T22:27:41.000Z views
15:53 < rr> how's 1.1.1.1 performs compared to 8.8.8.8 ?
15:53 <+giant_it_burrit> a bit quicker
15:53 < rhqq> depends
15:53 < alazare619> which ultrawide resolution is typically the best?
15:53 < rhqq> for me q1 is slower
15:53 < rr> it's better now coz it doesnt collect 'infos'
15:53 < rr> ?
15:54 < rhqq> yeah
15:54 < Nightcinder> i stopping using 8.8.8.8
15:54 < rhqq> so does q9
15:54 < Nightcinder> was having DNS timeouts
15:54 < rhqq> i have q1, then q9 then q8
15:54 < rr> ok, let's try :)
15:54 < dragonfleas> You guys ever just had a hyper-v host just completely stop responding to all network traffic?
15:54 < rr> i just saw the thread popped out
15:54 < dragonfleas> weird thing
15:55 <+ktechmidas> oh great
15:56 <+ktechmidas> my bank in the UK is dead
15:56 < rhqq> hah
15:56 < rhqq> what happened?
15:56 <+ktechmidas> I didn't realise until I saw /r/sysadmin
15:56 <+ktechmidas> https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/8eans1/spare_a_moment_for_tsb_sysadmins/
15:56 <+ktechmidas> tbf I don't use it that much
15:56 <+ktechmidas> just to pay for things that need visa
15:57 < rhqq> lulz
15:57 < rhqq> ktechmidas: use revolut
15:57 <+ktechmidas> rhqq, still needs linking to a bank account I think?
15:57 <@JollyRgrs> ktechmidas: the comments are spot on
15:57 < rhqq> yeah,
15:57 <@JollyRgrs> "someone is getting fired..."
15:57 <@JollyRgrs> and then
15:57 < alazare619> looking at a 2560x1080 monitor
15:57 <@JollyRgrs> More likely a set of Indian off-shore contractors are being fired and then replaced with another set of Indian off-shore contractors.The big 5 or 6 seem to rotate contacts and staff on a yearly basis from my experience.
15:57 < alazare619> should i go for a 3840x1080?
15:58 <+giant_it_burrit> alazare619: will your new card drive it?
15:58 <+giant_it_burrit> ;)
15:58 <+ktechmidas> JollyRgrs, actually I've been surprised when I call them
15:58 <+ktechmidas> it's usually a Scottish girl
15:58 <+ktechmidas> who answers
15:58 <@JollyRgrs> alazare619: depends on what kind of boat you want to float
15:58 < rhqq> alazare619: i can recommend my 34" samsung :P
15:58 < rhqq> https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/curved/34--cf791-wqhd-monitor-lc34f791wqnxza/
15:58 < rhqq> perfect for long long work
15:59 < Reverend> anyone here use salt?
15:59 < rhqq> and pepper
15:59 < Reverend> cheeky ones?
16:00 < dragonfleas> wow
16:00 < dragonfleas> my work laptop just crashed
16:00  * Reverend wonders
16:00 < Reverend> how are you typing this?
16:00 < dragonfleas> i brought it back up lol
16:00 < dragonfleas> it did the hard screen lock
16:01 < dragonfleas> like where nothing was responding
16:01 < dragonfleas> what a morning
16:01 < dragonfleas> hyper-v hypervisor crash, my workstation crashed
16:05 < scwizard> in my experience windows just crashes sometimes
16:06 < scwizard> especially when updating
16:06 < vinrock> or during high tide
16:06 < vinrock> or on days ending with the word "day"
16:06 < scwizard> yeah
16:06 < scwizard> (I still use it but)
16:07 < scwizard> (I don't believe in windows servers lol)
16:07 < estranger> man i need my MBP detailed
16:07 < enix> Cool, so used a hello world to create a dice game in C
16:07 < estranger> its kinda gross
16:07 < enix> That's a successful night, I can now go to sleep dreaming about living up to my linux.com email address
16:07 < enix> Night all
16:07 < scwizard> docker compose is being obnoxious today
16:07 < scwizard> i did env_file and it's like "wrong mysql password"
16:07 < scwizard> so I did "environment:" instead and it works
16:07 < scwizard> also it doesn't want to play nice with private container repos
16:08 < scwizard> i'm just glad that kubernetes is kinda superseding it but... i need to get there
16:09 < dragonfleas> scwizard, it's obviously due to cosmic ray induced bit flipping
16:11 < scwizard> i was thinking cosmic rays were why this unit test was failling on gitlab
16:11 < scwizard> but i managed to reproduce it ""locally"" just now
16:14 < AnimalFarmPig> happy mondays
16:14 < technonerd> No
16:15 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> AnimalFarmPig, Likewise.
16:16 < dragonfleas> I hadn't even had my cup of joe yet
16:16 < AnimalFarmPig> I did fucking nothing yesterday. It was glorious. Finally a Monday that I start feeling refreshed.
16:16 < dragonfleas> Now I need to leave work to hit up a starbucks
16:17 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> AnimalFarmPig, Now, let see if you can keep that going.
16:17 < scwizard> AHH
16:17 < scwizard> its a fucking hiesenbug
16:17 < scwizard> I changed the unit test to printf debug something
16:17 < scwizard> and the test fucking passed
16:17 < AnimalFarmPig> SysAdminGoneCraZ: aye, that will be the trick
16:17 < scwizard> then I even reverted the file
16:17 < scwizard> and the test fucking passed again
16:17 < meowschwitz> riterary hitrer
16:18 < scwizard> clear the composer cache, test still passes
16:19 < dragonfleas> i'm proud of myself
16:19 < dragonfleas> i haven't played pubg in 3 weeks
16:20 < dragonfleas> I sold my gaming PC on saturday
16:20 < dragonfleas> i'm living with my mom now
16:20 < meowschwitz> i just play space dwarves now
16:21 < dragonfleas> what's space dwarves?
16:21 < meowschwitz> deep rock galactic
16:21 < badsnappa> anyone having issues with domains registered via goddaddy just now?
16:22 < meowschwitz> hahahaha
16:22 < meowschwitz> "just now"
16:22 < meowschwitz> hahahahaha
16:22 < meowschwitz> https://www.google.bg/search?q=godaddy+stole+my+domain&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&ei=lg_eWe3BBMug6ATak4nIBg&start=10&sa=N&biw=1076&bih=1778
16:22 < dragonfleas> meowschwitz, i've been wanting to play that game so bad, i saw vinesauce playing it
16:22 < meowschwitz> yw.
16:22 < meowschwitz> dragonfleas: well.
16:23 < dragonfleas> well
16:23 < vinrock> well
16:23 < ravioli> badsnappa: https://twitter.com/tourneycentral/status/988422287094439938
16:23 < alazare619> best ultrawide monitor thats curved w/ PIP mode for under 300 bucks
16:25 < AnimalFarmPig> What do you use PIP mode for on a monitor? Having an overlay of another machine's video out?
16:25 < syere> PIP was a great features until it became so cheap and easy to just have more monitors
16:26 < AnimalFarmPig> never used PIP on a monitor. Seems easier to just have a kvm switch or multiple monitors
16:26 < AnimalFarmPig> is it used for viewing another machine's video out? or what do people do with it, actually?
16:26 < syere> I found it particularly useful back in the day when installing windows was a good 60 minute process before you got to drivers
16:27 < AnimalFarmPig> makes sense
16:27 < tsarbomba> anyone here starring in a comedic porn satire about the marine corp. as the character "tip of the spear"?
16:27 < AnimalFarmPig> start installing, leave it in a pip window, when you see it complete, switch inputs back?
16:27 < syere> pretty much.
16:28 < AnimalFarmPig> neat
16:28 < alazare619> AnimalFarmPig: typically pip works great for a "dual monitor" setup with 1 monitor
16:28 < syere> but like I said, since monitors are so cheap now
16:28 < syere> what's the point
16:28 < alazare619> so the PC thinks its 2 seperate monitors
16:28 < alazare619> i.e. i can toss apps back and forth
16:28 < alazare619> so i can fullscreen a 1920x1080 game like say rocket league
16:28 < syere> alazare619: you may be better off just using virtual desktops instead of going for PIP
16:28 < alazare619> and have a 1920x1080 ff on the right but only have 1 actual monitor
16:29 < alazare619> syere: no not in this case
16:29 < alazare619> if i NEED 2 apps full screen on 1 monitor
16:29 < alazare619> pip is requierd
16:29 < scwizard> fucking heisenbugs ahhhh
16:29 < AnimalFarmPig> when I think PIP, I think a little box maybe 1/8th the size of the screen overlayed in a corner
16:29 < scwizard> i can't fucking even
16:29 < dragonfleas> Wave2:Red: staking whip 2m+ 99str 99attk
16:29 < grumplestiltzkin> Speaking of installing taking forever - I installed FreeNAS to a vmware datastore on a USB stick - not sure if I can bump it up to 3, but it sure was USB 2 at the time - Does FreeNAS usually take a while to get to an install menu, or (more likely) it was because its on a USB 2
16:29 < AnimalFarmPig> seems like it would be too small to be useful
16:30 < syere> can you explain why the 1 monitor part is so critical over 2? is it a space issue? funding?
16:30 < alazare619> AnimalFarmPig: no not anymore
16:30 < alazare619> pip can make use of up to half the entire monitor
16:30 < Heresiarch> grumplestiltzkin: mostly the latter. freebsd takes a while to boot, but usb2 is slow as hell.
16:30 < AnimalFarmPig> oh, interesting
16:30 < alazare619> so you can have say 1 35" 3840x1080 monitor
16:30 < AnimalFarmPig> okay, that makes sense
16:31 < alazare619> and dividied striaght in the middle would be 2 18" 1920x1080 monitors
16:31 < AnimalFarmPig> weird size though
16:31 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Aight. Time for some Felda.io
16:31 < alazare619> yea was easier for me to math :P
16:31 < alazare619> it would actually be (usually) 3840x1200
16:31 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> felda, C'mon and slam! Welcome to the Jam!
16:32 < grumplestiltzkin> Heresiarch: thanks, good to know. I've never installed it before. I'm pretty sure the ports were blue, so I need to get that enabled
16:32 < AnimalFarmPig> oh, so two 16:10's, nice
16:32 < alazare619> or 2560x1080
16:32 < alazare619> but you get the idea the idea of PIP now is 2 seperate monitors on 1 actual LCD panel
16:32 <+TuxedoJack> SysAdminGoneCraZ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLT6sEGD5Rw
16:32 <+layer-eight> YouTube Guile's Jam Medley (Quad City DJs vs 'MURICA feat. MrBulbamike & Smooth McGroove) by 2014-01-13T18:50:34.000Z (duration: 3:37) on Tue Jan 14 01:50:34 UTC 2014, 2014-01-13T18:50:34.000Z views
16:32 < Heresiarch> grumplestiltzkin: also, keep in mind that zfs takes a few mins to initialize. Not like, raid5 initialization time, but it'll be a few mins.
16:32 < AnimalFarmPig> 2560x1080 is also a weird size. 2560x1024 would get 2x 1280x1024's
16:32 < alazare619> its really cool having only 1 monitor on a desk and having the ability to have it identified as 2 or some times even 3 panels
16:33 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, I get the idea now
16:33 < AnimalFarmPig> very different from PIP on TV's :)
16:33 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> TuxedoJack, LOL Nice!
16:33 < alazare619> my boss has a 38 or 40 inch super ultra wide monitor
16:33 < alazare619> his is divideable into 3 sections
16:33 < alazare619> i wana say his resolution is like 5760x1440
16:34 < alazare619> or something very close to that
16:34 < grumplestiltzkin> hwat in the hworld?
16:34 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, sounds like it's basically a single piece / bezel-less triple monitor setup
16:34 < tsarbomba> TFW you're using your $10,000 monitor setup for irc and reddit
16:34 < scwizard> dude
16:34 < scwizard> what are these developers doing
16:34 < alazare619> tsarbomba:  i think it was only like 1500
16:34 < scwizard> if I run the unit test in isolation it passes
16:34 < scwizard> if I run the whole suite test fails
16:34 < scwizard> that's not how it's supposed to work lol
16:35 < grumplestiltzkin> Heresiarch: Yeah, I figure.  Im going with mirrored  2ea 1TB SSD, and 2ea 4TB spinners
16:35 < alazare619> AnimalFarmPig:  he only has 1 display port cable ran to the monitor
16:35 < alazare619> i dont understand the specifics but its amazing to see
16:36 < AnimalFarmPig> alazare619: seems like being able to partition a single display into multiple logical displays would be something that the OS should handle
16:36 < alazare619> AnimalFarmPig: yea you would think but hte os doesnt
16:36 < AnimalFarmPig> I'm sure it's possible via xorg.conf
16:36 < alazare619> yea via xorg
16:36 < grumplestiltzkin> so, you still have 2(or more) machines, either multiple keyboards, KVM, or synergy (?) to run the PIP stuff?
16:36 < alazare619> but windows doesnt handle it at all well
16:36 < Trapdoor> <alazare619> AnimalFarmPig:  he only has 1 display port cable ran to the monitor
16:36 < Trapdoor> <alazare619> i dont understand the specifics but its amazing to see
16:36 < Trapdoor> MST
16:36 < AnimalFarmPig> #sad
16:37 < Trapdoor> Multistream Transport, daisychaining displayport pretty much
16:37 < ihre> alazare619: it sounds like you're actually looking for a tiling window manager :p
16:37 < alazare619> but yea amd has this virtual super resolution thing where you can make 2 monitors display as 1 giant one
16:37 < AnimalFarmPig> Trapdoor: yeah, I know DP can do multiple displays on a single cable; however, in the case of running multiple logical displays on a single monitor, shouldn't really be neccessary
16:38 < Trapdoor> I'm not following the discussion AnimalFarmPig I'm just namedropping technologies to sound smart
16:38 < AnimalFarmPig> ahhh.... gotcha :P
16:38 < alazare619> so anyways what i'm looking for is a 3840x1080,1440,or higher curved monitor that can be split
16:39 < alazare619> so i can game at 1920x1080(or higher) and have another one running kodi for tv or porn or irc
16:39 < alazare619> but only 1 actual display on my desk
16:39 < ihre> wsl + twm :3
16:40 < Heresiarch> ihre: wewlad
16:40 < syere> so much brain power to solve running a game not in full-screen mode xD
16:41 < ihre> Heresiarch: sounds edgy right :p i think BytesAndCoffee uses it, and was pretty happy with that set up
16:41 <+giant_it_burrit> i like that that irc and porn are on the same level
16:41 < Heresiarch> ihre: sounds ridiculous. But understandable. XD
16:42 < ekaj_> reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
16:42 < ekaj_> .bofh
16:42 <+layer-eight> ekaj_, BOFH says: Incorrect time syncronization
16:42 < ihre> its just that splitting windows vertically is exactly what twm does, i'm not sure about wsl, but if that allows you to use a a twm on windows, sounds like its worth a try :P
16:42 < grumplestiltzkin> Is there an issue with runnning windowed-fullscreen?
16:42 < ihre> well, not just vertically of course :D
16:43 <@JollyRgrs> yeah, i was about to say
16:43 <@JollyRgrs> some monitors have the ability to show to Windows as 2-3 devices... if not, it would be a lot of software trickery
16:43 < grumplestiltzkin> who actually runs fullscreen?
16:43 <@JollyRgrs> i do
16:43 <@JollyRgrs> borderless full-screen for games
16:43 <@JollyRgrs> and most browsers i full screen
16:44 <@JollyRgrs> when you have 3-4 monitors, you fullscreen more often
16:44 < grumplestiltzkin> no, I mean hte game in fullscreen, not windowed fulscreen - both are borderless, just you cant alt-tab out if you are 'fullscreen' (iirc)
16:44 < GreyKite> I have two monitors that are almost always fullscreen
16:44 < grumplestiltzkin> also, mouse capture
16:44 <@JollyRgrs> grumplestiltzkin: you can... it's just more.... harsh
16:44 < grumplestiltzkin> like, fullscreen captures the mouse, windowed fullscreen doesnt
16:45 < GreyKite> grumplestiltzkin: depends on the game, sometimes I want the mouse capture
16:47 < grumplestiltzkin> I guess having a super-diper-mega widescreen changes the strategy a bit too
16:49 < alazare619> So can we come back to my question a 34+ inch monitor under 400 with at least a 3840 by * resolution?
16:50 < abakedapplepie> can i declare monday to be "kill all vendors" day
16:50 < abakedapplepie> these freight idiots have been dodging me for weeks
16:51 < abakedapplepie> equipment keeps getting sent back to the mfr because they cant follow fucking simple instructions writen in plain english
16:51 < grumplestiltzkin> abakedapplepie: that requires reding comprehension, *AND* actualy reading the instructions
16:51 < abakedapplepie> i have resorted to a flier taped to the front door
16:51 < abakedapplepie> that says "we are here, dont leave"
16:51 < Reverend> did anyone read the articles on the TSB fuck up yet?
16:52 < Reverend> Apaprently folks could see other peopleses bank accounts :x
16:52 < voidstar> I think BoA had a similar issue not that long ago
16:53 < grumplestiltzkin> abakedapplepie: srs- sometimes the lowest tech is the bestest tech
16:58 < badsnappa> I don't know what godaddy have done, but our domains that don't have A/CNAME records on the domain itself are returning answers from dns queries
16:58 < badsnappa> FTR our DNS is with route53
16:59 < badsnappa> and the answers are godaddy IP addresses
16:59 < felda> aww yeah I love re-installing QuickBooks
17:00 <@mistiry> felda: its the best isnt it?
17:00 <+MillerBOSS> NoMoreDaddy
17:00 <+MillerBOSS> Actually they started using AWS.
17:00 <+MillerBOSS> So that is a plus
17:01 < alazare619> https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techrepublic.com/google-amp/article/using-windows-10-on-a-34-inch-ultrawide-monitor/
17:01 < felda> K I L L  M E  D A D D Y
17:04 < felda> how do I find this Mr Quickbooks and strangle him?
17:04 < alazare619> https://www.digitaltigers.com/split-4k-monitor-into-multiple-virtual-monitors.asp
17:04 < alazare619> Looks like I found a way to make one monitor show up as many
17:04 < sideup66> Felda
17:04 < Heresiarch> felda: he can't hear you over the gigantic wodges of money he's making from the software.
17:04 < sideup66> Pfsense
17:05 < sideup66> E n t e r p r i s e  r e a d y
17:05 < Hatter> Anyone play any fun video games lately?
17:05 < sideup66> Felda.io
17:05 < sideup66> Pfsense
17:05 < sideup66> Pfsense
17:05 < sideup66> Pfsense
17:05 < AnimalFarmPig> okay, silly question, I want to search for this regex-- 10\.250\.2\.1(02|36)   how do I pass that to grep?
17:05 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Hatter, Eh, still playing FC5
17:05 < AnimalFarmPig> trying to just pass it gives me-- bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
17:05 < Hatter> oh I haven't tried far cry 5
17:06 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Hatter, Felda doesn't MP with me. He says I'm dangerous.
17:06 < AnimalFarmPig> putting it in quotes doesn't seem to work...
17:06 < mkillebrew> It's pretty fun
17:06 < mkillebrew> So many things to blow up
17:06 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Hatter, My streams scare him.
17:06 < Heresiarch> AnimalFarmPig: did you put it in single or double quotes?
17:06 < AnimalFarmPig> Heresiarch: double
17:06 < Hatter> I heard if you play FC5 co-op, only one person gets accomplishments/progress
17:06 < Hatter> sounds pretty bogus if you ask me
17:06 < mkillebrew> You have to have friends to play co-op
17:06 < Heresiarch> AnimalFarmPig: grep '10.250.2.[1-36]'
17:07 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Hatter, It's true. But the fun you have overrides that.
17:07 < voidstar> Hatter, trashtacular in my opinion
17:07 < grumplestiltzkin> wasn't borderlands like that?  like - youre joining and playing in someone elses game
17:07 < Hatter> grumplestiltzkin, if you were synched up quest wise, everyone progressed
17:07 < Hatter> it was only an issue if someone was behind in the main quest
17:07 < Hatter> alright?
17:07 < mkillebrew> I got CoD WWII just for zombies.
17:07 < grumplestiltzkin> oputcry frive doesn't do that?
17:08 < Hatter> word on the street is no
17:08 < AnimalFarmPig> Heresiarch: grep syntax is different from normal pcre, I guess? this is matching things that I don't want like 10.250.2.193
17:08 < AnimalFarmPig> I just want 102 or 136
17:08 <+MillerBOSS> grumplestiltzkin's keyboard is broke again
17:09 < grumplestiltzkin> When I bought some of the disk for this home lab, it said I got a free copy, I assume htats how everyone else got it?  - I just need to figure out what data-sucking thing they want me to sign up for to get it
17:09 < mkillebrew> egrep or grep -E, escape your \.
17:09 < Heresiarch> mkillebrew: ++
17:09 < AnimalFarmPig> awesome, egrep worked
17:09 < AnimalFarmPig> thanks!
17:10 <+MillerBOSS> mkillebrew --
17:10 < Nightcinder> so
17:10 < Nightcinder> went to the grocery store yesterday
17:10 < sideup66> P
17:10 < sideup66> F
17:10 < Nightcinder> saw some dude wearing airpods
17:10 < sideup66> S
17:10 < sideup66> E
17:10 < sideup66> N
17:10 < sideup66> S
17:10 < sideup66> E
17:11 < Nightcinder> looked like such a tool
17:11 < sideup66> Kek
17:11 < mkillebrew> I love my airpods
17:11 < sideup66> Kek
17:11 < sideup66> :)
17:11 < mkillebrew> but I look like a tool either way
17:11 < sideup66> Felda.io
17:11 < mkillebrew> so it's cool
17:11 < sideup66> Is hosted on orang
17:11 < grumplestiltzkin> !nominate sideup66 Outstanding maneuvers
17:11 < madvillain> Hey man dont hate on the Air Pods
17:11 < madvillain> I love my toothbrushes in my eat
17:11 <+MillerBOSS> Wow Nightcinder Way to go there
17:11 < madvillain> ear
17:11 < mkillebrew> They tuck away in my pocket in the case and the battery lasts forever
17:12 <+MillerBOSS> Do you use both all the time or ever one?
17:12 < mkillebrew> I really expected to hate them, since the earpods sucked so much
17:12 < madvillain> My coworker has the Google ones and I give him shit because it has a cord still
17:12 < mkillebrew> sometimes one, usually both
17:12 <+MillerBOSS> Apple Watch mkillebrew?
17:13 < mkillebrew> if it's just a phone call, I don't need or want stereo
17:13 < mkillebrew> fuck no, Omega.
17:13 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlkfK5gliIw
17:13 <+layer-eight> YouTube Cars Moving In Stereo by 2016-08-21T20:18:52.000Z (duration: 4:41) on Mon Aug 22 03:18:52 UTC 2016, 2016-08-21T20:18:52.000Z views
17:14 <+MillerBOSS> I should probably fix  that script today, eh tsarbomba?
17:15 < madvillain> Anyone here taken the AWS Solutions Architect - Associate exam? Looking to take it in the next couple of weeks.
17:18 <+MillerBOSS> Have another https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0Kv6vxZwL8
17:18 <+layer-eight> YouTube The Cars - Magic (OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO) by 2013-01-24T00:25:28.000Z (duration: 4:13) on Thu Jan 24 07:25:28 UTC 2013, 2013-01-24T00:25:28.000Z views
17:19 < mkillebrew> keep your terrible music to yourself
17:19 < grumplestiltzkin> .yt fear factory cars
17:19 <+layer-eight> YouTube Fear Factory - Cars (Official MusicVideo) - https://youtu.be/8lERqGULWxs
17:19 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> mkillebrew, Hey hey hey, now. I'll allow it. It's a classic.
17:19 < Hatter> Cars - You Might Think I'm Crazy is on of my favorite music videos
17:19 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Hatter, Also classic.
17:19 < Hatter> this one isn't nearly as good
17:20 < Bru-> dang
17:20 < Bru-> this shrink and sani script is taking its sweet time for our DB
17:20 < Bru-> i mean
17:20 < Bru-> it is 340Gb
17:20 < Bru-> GB*
17:20 < Bru-> 85 mins and counting
17:22 < corn266> Bru-: did you jiggle the bits?
17:22 < Bru-> i did!
17:22 < Bru-> i did!
17:22 < Bru-> but the DB is in recovery mode now
17:22 < Bru-> i jiggled too hard :((
17:22 < Bru-> shaken DB syndrome
17:24 < tsarbomba> a new company owns flickr for less than 48 hours and proceeds to fuck it up completely
17:25 <+giant_it_burrit> wasnt it already fucked up?
17:25 < tsarbomba> that's usually what yahoo (their previous owner) does
17:25 < tsarbomba> how so?
17:25 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAD6Obi7Cag
17:25 <+layer-eight> YouTube Dire Straits - Money For Nothing music video (Good quality, all countries) by 2009-04-27T20:43:48.000Z (duration: 4:04) on Tue Apr 28 03:43:48 UTC 2009, 2009-04-27T20:43:48.000Z views
17:25 < Bru-> lol
17:25 < JFDkthx> tsarbomba: i mean, its flickr
17:25 < JFDkthx> who cares
17:25 <+MillerBOSS> tsarbomba 👉 What did Smugmug do?
17:25 < tsarbomba> Access to Image at 'https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/401/31889636394_cef8cf1c86_o.jpg' from origin 'https://s.yimg.com' has been blocked by CORS policy: No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource. Origin 'https://s.yimg.com' is therefore not allowed access. The response had HTTP status code 502.
17:25 < Hatter> how much for one of those pepper robots
17:25 < tsarbomba> happens on every image
17:26 < tsarbomba> new owner clearly didn't get permission from yahoo to keep using their back end to keep the shit alive
17:26 < JFDkthx> i dont know why someone would buy an image service
17:26 < tsarbomba> DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS etc
17:26 < JFDkthx> image hosting
17:26 <+MillerBOSS> Its Flickr JFDkthx
17:27 < meowschwitz> developers did 9/11
17:27 < Heresiarch> that would certainly explain the crashing...
17:28 < grumplestiltzkin> boooooo
17:29 < Hatter> someone has hacked my spotify account
17:29 < Hatter> and they're playing some awful playlist called "workout twerkout"
17:29 <+MillerBOSS> Good. That'll teach you
17:29 < tsarbomba> the new owners are some sort of snooty photographer blog
17:29 < tsarbomba> apparently they've been looking for a viable image hosting service for a while
17:30 < tsarbomba> yahoo was like "have we got the thing for you"
17:30 <+MillerBOSS> Blog? https://www.smugmug.com/plans
17:30 < Hatter> teach me what
17:31 < ihre> not to use admin123 as your password
17:31 < corn266> everyone knows to start with 0, eg. admin012
17:31 <+MillerBOSS> How could they hack your account Hatter? Seems to me either its a used password on another site that has had their DB leaked or you entered the reds in what you thought was spotify
17:32 < Hatter> MillerBOSS: I suspect an elaborate and intense bruteforcing campaign
17:32 <+MillerBOSS> s/reds/creds
17:32 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS meant: "How could they hack your account Hatter? Seems to me either its a used password on another site that has had their DB leaked or you entered the creds in what you thought was spotify"
17:32 < Hatter> what do you take me for
17:32 <+MillerBOSS> I take you for a HATTER
17:32 < corn266> an absolute unit, that one
17:33 < Hatter> well I was rather inebriated the majority of the weekend
17:33 < grumplestiltzkin> getting sugarhigh on gummy bears doesnt count
17:33 < Hatter> you get more than a sugar high from gummy bears these days
17:33 < Hatter> know what I mean
17:33 < Hatter> drugs
17:34 < Heresiarch> grumplestiltzkin: alcoholic gummy bears are no joke.
17:37 < alazare619> I CAN NOT STAND MUMBLE RAPPERS
17:37 < alazare619> if busta rhymes heard this shit he be rolling over in his grave
17:37 <+giant_it_burrit> but why
17:37 <+giant_it_burrit> he alive
17:37 < alazare619> is he?
17:37 < alazare619> but is he?
17:37 <+giant_it_burrit> yeah
17:37 <+giant_it_burrit> he is
17:38 < voidstar> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Busta_Rhymes
17:38 < alazare619> buta rhymes is litterally the exact opposite of mumble rap
17:38 < alazare619> he actually pronounciates
17:38 <@JollyRgrs> buta
17:38 <@JollyRgrs> lol
17:39 < voidstar> betsie bought a box of bitter buta?
17:39 < alazare619> flows so slick he changed his name to buta rhymes
17:40 < voidstar> might as well go with astroglide since it's out of this world
17:41 < alazare619> i prefer h2jo
17:41 < tsarbomba> this chat is more disappointing than when ann wilson locked her sister in a closet and started writing keyboard power ballads for heart
17:41 < alazare619> but i have to say with enough astroglide you can put a bowling ball up feldas WOOOHAH!
17:41 < ThisIsSys> Any one good with DISM?
17:42 < ThisIsSys> I need to get drivers loaded on to an image and i can't find the inf file.
17:42 < ThisIsSys> Tried converting the .exe drivers i got from the dell site
17:42 <@Code_Man65> ThisIsSys:  What are you using to do OSD?
17:43 < corn266> why is tar complaining that certain timestamps are in the future?
17:43 < ThisIsSys> i have a wim image file and i mounted it using dism
17:43 < ThisIsSys> its sitting on E: drive under a folder
17:43 <@Code_Man65> corn266:  Because you went to 88mph
17:43 <@Code_Man65> That doesn't answer my question ThisIsSys
17:43 < voidstar> corn266, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/14528/prevent-showing-time-stamp-message-when-running-tar-xzf
17:44 <+MillerBOSS> Thanks lmgtfy-bot
17:44 <+MillerBOSS> Aww
17:45 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtn06ZW9Xm0
17:45 <+layer-eight> YouTube Busta Rhymes - Gimme Some More (1998) by 2012-02-22T06:59:18.000Z (duration: 2:54) on Wed Feb 22 13:59:18 UTC 2012, 2012-02-22T06:59:18.000Z views
17:46 <@Code_Man65> ThisIsSys:  To put it another way, you shouldn't be adding drivers to the wim, your OSD solution should detect the model and install the drivers during the OSD process.
17:46 <@Code_Man65> The only image you add drivers to is your boot image, and both SCCM and MDT have interfaces to do that for you.
17:47 < felda> drivers are dumb
17:47 <+MillerBOSS> Everyone hide
17:47 < ThisIsSys> Code_Man65: Its an offline image file that i am using. I read about the /Add-Driver paramater, but it accepts an inf file
17:47 < felda> I personally let Jesus take the wheel with JesusOS
17:47 < felda> everyone is Admin :D
17:48 <+MillerBOSS> Thanks felda
17:48 < jbroome> my boss/director sent me the 'hardening' docs for FortiOS from a GD fortigate and asked me to look over them because the fortigate probably runs linux underneath.  I said 'that's not how this works'.
17:48 < ThatOneRoadie> I mean, someone today "Merged" by slamming on the brakes
17:48 < ThatOneRoadie> lane goes away
17:49 <+A-KO> I've got a bit of a yubikey problem
17:49 < ThatOneRoadie> lady has like 4 carlengths to merge into
17:49 < ThatOneRoadie> nope, slams on the brakes and blocks both lanes
17:49 < ThatOneRoadie> come the fuck on
17:49 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.techmeme.com/180420/p18#a180420p18 tsarbomba Photo-sharing and storage company SmugMug acquires Flickr from Oath, promises to revitalize and maintain Flickr as a standalone service
17:49 <@Code_Man65> How goes the blizzard life A-KO?
17:49 < ThatOneRoadie> There should be some stuff that you can call a phone number, and report a license plate to them, and if they get x number of reports in y number of days, that driver has to do remedial Driver's Ed.
17:50 <+MillerBOSS> Its good to see Flickr live on outside of Oath/Yahoo
17:50 < ThatOneRoadie> Or we just need to do like pilots have to do
17:50 <+A-KO> Code_Man65: Alright
17:50 <+A-KO> that reminds me
17:50 < ThatOneRoadie> every 2 years, no matter how much you fly, you have to do a flight review with an instructor
17:50 <+A-KO> I need to take my thumb drive to work to install the newer Win10 on my surface
17:50 < ThatOneRoadie> and you have to pass it to continue flying
17:51 <+A-KO> bbiab heading into work. I might IRC today from the office. maybe.
17:51 <+MillerBOSS> We would so love it if you did A-KO
17:51 < estranger> this is why I like having a sports car... can stop faster than almost anything else out there, almost more important than going quicker
17:51 < Reverend> ThatOneRoadie that sounds like a good idea. Though I think it would be misused a lot
17:51 < Reverend> A-KO you work at bliz now?
17:52 < alazare619> estranger:  my "race car" has 4 piston calipers
17:52 < estranger> good tires help a lot too
17:52 < alazare619> need a wider tire tho the tires it has on it cant handle the stoping g's now...
17:52 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5rRZdiu1UE
17:52 <+layer-eight> YouTube Beastie Boys - Sabotage by 2009-06-22T00:54:21.000Z (duration: 3:02) on Mon Jun 22 07:54:21 UTC 2009, 2009-06-22T00:54:21.000Z views
17:53 < estranger> alazare619, what is it?
17:53 < alazare619> the car?
17:53 < alazare619> its a SCCA built car
17:53 < ThatOneRoadie> I always like how drivers in colorado believe All Wheel Drive is better in the winter because it lets them stop faster
17:53 < estranger> yeah, has me intriguiged
17:53 < alazare619> 2003.5 mazdaspeed protege
17:53 < estranger> ahh! sweet
17:53 < ThatOneRoadie> Every car built in the last 45 years has all wheel stop you idiots
17:53 < alazare619> gtx3582r turbo full coilovers on a 4 link suspension
17:53 < estranger> ThatOneRoadie, who said they didnt?
17:54 < estranger> ThatOneRoadie, OH sorry
17:54 < ThatOneRoadie> On the whole, the discussions I have with drivers at places like Pike's Peak hill climb include some kind of "well, you see, AWD is better in the winter because you can stop better"
17:54 < estranger> ThatOneRoadie, i missed your line above.. thought you were calling me and alazare619 idiots :D
17:54 < ThatOneRoadie> oh no lmao
17:55 < ThatOneRoadie> that should be one of those "change my mind" table meme pictures
17:55 < ThatOneRoadie> "AWD Cars stop better. Change my mind"
17:55 < alazare619> wait no not 4 link the fox was 4 link
17:55 < estranger> lol
17:55 < alazare619> this car is on a coilover mcpherson strut setup
17:55 < estranger> alazare619, thing prob hauls
17:55 < alazare619> when it ran :P
17:55 < alazare619> right now its down waiting on me to wire-in the full standalone (arduino based) ecu
17:56 < alazare619> weather hasnt been nice enough to get out and start heat shrinking and soldering
17:56 < alazare619> when i moved new house has no garage
17:56 <+MillerBOSS> HEYYYY Ladies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Naf5uJYGoiU
17:56 <+layer-eight> YouTube Beastie Boys - Hey Ladies by 2010-04-23T07:51:07.000Z (duration: 3:49) on Fri Apr 23 14:51:07 UTC 2010, 2010-04-23T07:51:07.000Z views
17:57 <+MillerBOSS> Most music today sucks
17:57 < grumplestiltzkin> ThatOneRoadie: brakes, tires and suspension make cars stop
17:57 < dragonfleas> how hard is it to make a very simple image with the key activation in MDT
17:57 < dragonfleas> is it as easy as sysprep, set up oobe and capture the image?
17:58 < dragonfleas> I've only used SCCM, with images that were already set up
17:58 < ThatOneRoadie> I mean, that's pretty much it
17:58 < ThatOneRoadie> hang on, I have an OST how-to somewhere in here
17:58 < ThatOneRoadie> OSD*
17:59 < estranger> im torn between getting FI .. would be fun but I really really really don't need it
17:59 < ThatOneRoadie> dragonfleas: see https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg682108.aspx and specifically https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg712328.aspx for capturing the image
18:01 < dragonfleas> I'm going to be creating 3 images, one for our standard laptops, one for our standard desktops, and one with LTSB for netbooks that we use for projectors
18:02 < dragonfleas> thanks ThatOneRoadie i'm going to bookmark these
18:03 < ThatOneRoadie> tbh we just have one base image with a crapton of drivers, and install any deployment-specific stuff after the image applies via automatic SCCM Collections
18:04 < ThatOneRoadie> It saves space on our dist. points.
18:04 < dragonfleas> yeah we don't have SCCM nor the server infrastructure to support SCCM
18:05 < abakedapplepie> mfw customer didnt pay ISP bill
18:05 < abakedapplepie> :|
18:05 < dragonfleas> if anything i'll probably set up WDS at some point, but we're limited on server resources at the moment, that's why I think having a bootable media deployment on a USB drive
18:06 < corn266> anyone here know if dracut running on rhel will detect an evil maid attack?
18:06 < abakedapplepie> stay away from those evil maids man
18:06 < abakedapplepie> bad news
18:06 < dragonfleas> ThatOneRoadie, i just realized this applies to SCCM
18:06 < dragonfleas> how do i capture an image without SCCM
18:06 < ThatOneRoadie> ohhhhhhhhhhhhh
18:06 < grumplestiltzkin> ThatOneRoadie: well, if you are downshifting instead of braking, AWD could help you *slow down* faster
18:06 < abakedapplepie> lol
18:07 < ThatOneRoadie> you could probably capture with the USMT and then use the wim image
18:07 < abakedapplepie> grumplestiltzkin id be interested to see the data on that
18:07 < abakedapplepie> how much more deceleration you get downshifting on 4 wheels vs 2
18:07 < grumplestiltzkin> abakedapplepie: talking on reduced friction surfaces like slow/ice
18:07 < grumplestiltzkin> where you dont just brake
18:07 < abakedapplepie> ohhhhhh
18:08 < grumplestiltzkin> like the coloradoans would be talking about
18:08 < abakedapplepie> er, who downshifts on snow/ice
18:08 < Heresiarch> corn266: ...probably not. dracut is about generating iniramfs, not tracking it. You'd be looking more for FIM software to deal with that sort of thing.
18:08 < Heresiarch> *initramfs
18:08 < dragonfleas> ThatOneRoadie, have any youtube tuts for it?
18:08 < abakedapplepie> if you have the ability to manually shift, you should be in neutral so the wheel speed can catch the road surface speed
18:09 < grumplestiltzkin> abakedapplepie: people who don't want to lose control?  downshift and get off accelerator before going downhill.  its a thing
18:09 < grumplestiltzkin> if its that bad, you should probably be barely moving anyway, in 'low' or 1 or whatever
18:09 < Heresiarch> abakedapplepie: it's not necessarily a good thing, but people do it. Like clutch-braking. ;)
18:10 < corn266> Heresiarch: FIM software like AIDE? Not sure how that'd work since the attack is done by compromising the bootloader from a live disk
18:11 < ThatOneRoadie> dragonfleas: there's a how-to in this link but I think it assumes you have an SCCM Server *somewhere* https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/deploy-windows-mdt/create-a-windows-10-reference-image
18:11 < ThatOneRoadie> That link assumes you're playing around on the windows server hydration kit
18:11 < ThatOneRoadie> which btw I highly recommend if you want to start fooling around with windows sysadmin
18:11 < JFDkthx> no snow today!
18:12 < JFDkthx> its finally above 60
18:12 < Hatter> what the heck is the hydration kit
18:12 < JFDkthx> fuck yes
18:12 < ThatOneRoadie> Free, easy to stand up on a small VM host or even in vmware workstation/fusion, and dead simple
18:12 < ThatOneRoadie> Hatter: A set of pre-made deployment scripts for an entire windows server lab
18:12 < ThatOneRoadie> take scripts, apply default server 2012/2016 iso, insert in vmware, ????, Profit!
18:12 < Heresiarch> corn266: yeah. Ultimately, if you're looking at bootsector attacks, the only way to really prevent such is to prevent booting to unknown media, and/or locking down writes to the boot sector on local disk.
18:12 < grumplestiltzkin> Hatter: I didn't know either. I was figuring a camelback for VMs
18:13 < ThatOneRoadie> I use it all the damn time when I need a fresh lab to break things in
18:13 < ThatOneRoadie> takes like an hour or two to deploy, and you get an entire MCSE Lab
18:13 < JFDkthx> ThatOneRoadie: i just use the developers sandbox for that
18:13 < ThatOneRoadie> including MDT, Ops manager, SCCM, etc etc etc
18:13 < Heresiarch> corn266: most people don't bother trying to mitigate that type of attack unless they're in a highly secured environment. If someone gets physical access to a box, they'll find a way to root you in short order.
18:14 < ThatOneRoadie> Yeah, securing a physical box starts with securing the outer walls of the building
18:14 < The_Dv8or> sup
18:16 < corn266> Heresiarch: wow, here I am killing ants with a .50 when it can be mitigated through a locked down BIOS
18:17 < JFDkthx> tsarbomba: guess you didnt get to fly this weekend "Unruly passenger tased, removed from American Airlines flight in Miami"
18:17 < corn266> Thanks
18:17 < Heresiarch> corn266: np. Idiot C-level?
18:18 < corn266> idiot me-level
18:21 < Hatter> can someone link that recent reddit gif of the orcas coming up to the paddleboarder
18:22 <+MillerBOSS> What are Enterprises using for firewalls these days? I have SonicWALLs. Time to upgrade.
18:23 < gnupluslinux> hey Code_Man65 you around? still having that 405 issue?
18:23 < Hatter> I've just put in some nice Palos
18:23 <+MillerBOSS> What kind of cost are we talking Hatter ?
18:24 < Hatter> thousands of dollars
18:24 <@Code_Man65> ?
18:24 < grumplestiltzkin> MillerBOSS: Using 2 different vendors, in series is still a valid strategy.   I always default to ASAs, because experience
18:24 <+MillerBOSS> How do you do that grumplestiltzkin ? Isn't there then a double NAT?
18:24 <@Code_Man65> We have both palo's and asa's
18:24 < mijndert> MillerBOSS big fan of Juniper
18:25 < gnupluslinux> Code_Man65, werent you having issues with ansible giving you a 405 when you tried to get an auth token?
18:25 <@Code_Man65> What 405 issue gnupluslinux?  Refresh my memory.
18:25 <@Code_Man65> Oh, I got that fixed
18:25 <@Code_Man65> gnupluslinux: https://gist.github.com/codeman65/f8f380cf7d921711b2ea3f9a2d28d7de
18:25 < grumplestiltzkin> MillerBOSS: well, it is a little more work to set it up, but the NATs would live on just one of them. IIRC the inside one is preferable
18:27 < gnupluslinux> Code_Man65, nice. only brought it up cause i was recently having issues with a webapi and it turns out that returning a 301 makes most clients convert your POST into a GET and thus lose your body
18:27 <+MillerBOSS> I can't wrap my head grumplestiltzkin
18:27 < admiralspark> o/
18:27 < admiralspark> grumplestiltzkin: do you use any of the Firepower stuff on the ASA's?
18:27 <+MillerBOSS> What is the benefit of two devices?
18:27 < gnupluslinux> POST http://domain/endpoint -> server returns 301 https -> client converts to GET https://domain/endpoint cause of HTTP standards
18:28 < admiralspark> gnupluslinux: can't you...just do that with nginx?
18:28 < gnupluslinux> admiralspark, how do you mean
18:28 < admiralspark> or, well, a BIG-IP if you have money?
18:28 < admiralspark> you're talking about HTTP redirects right?
18:28 < gnupluslinux> i was running nginx in front of an webapi i was testing out yeah
18:29 < gnupluslinux> yeah you can do it with nginx/apache/whatever
18:29 < gnupluslinux> return 301/redirect/rewrite/proxy_pass however you want to do it
18:29 < voidstar> hmmmm. I think I want a new mouse. recommendations?
18:29 < admiralspark> server {
18:29 < admiralspark>     listen 80;
18:29 < admiralspark>     server_name hostname.tld;
18:29 < admiralspark>     rewrite     ^   https://$host$request_uri? permanent;
18:29 < admiralspark> }
18:29 < admiralspark> gnupluslinux: like so?
18:29 < admiralspark> oh
18:29 < admiralspark> nvm
18:30 < The_Dv8or> voidstar, I use the Logitech Marathon Mouse 705
18:30 <+MillerBOSS> Side question. Can you "lock down" DNS settings on an Android device?
18:30 < ihre> pls bby l2pastebin
18:30 < The_Dv8or> fuckin love it… been using it for 5 years
18:30 < admiralspark> thought you were talking about the same thing as grumplestiltzkin
18:30 <@Code_Man65> Yeah, that should have been in pastebin admiralspark
18:30 < The_Dv8or> it has enough buttons for all the functions you want, but it isnt overkill
18:30 < ihre> and then not pastebin but ix.io/dpaste/fpaste because fuck pastebin :d
18:30 < admiralspark> Code_Man65: pb is locked at work
18:31 < admiralspark> lemme try ix.io
18:31 < ihre> rightfully so, ix.io ftw
18:31 < gnupluslinux> admiralspark, https://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html#sec10.3 yeah it works. i had a return 301 which as i understand is the accepted practice with nginx. standards implemented by clients typically seem to do a GET after getting some kind of redirect
18:31 < ihre> admiralspark: alias ix ix='curl -F ''f:1=<-'' ix.io'
18:31 < voidstar> The_Dv8or, I'll check that out, thanks.
18:32 < admiralspark> ihre: thanks, I'll play with it!
18:32 < gnupluslinux> could technically do a proxy_pass too but im pretty sure that defeats the purpose of https since it'll only run tls between the server and node instead of node and client
18:32 < admiralspark> gnupluslinux: yep, I see now
18:33 < gnupluslinux> TIL ix.io
18:33 < admiralspark> yeah this is cool
18:33 < voidstar> I have quite large hands so finding mice is.. interesting
18:34 < admiralspark> Only issue is it looks like I have to sed/awk to parse, doesn't accept clipboard?
18:34 < admiralspark> hmmm
18:34 < admiralspark> wonder if I can do this with python
18:34 < ihre> pbpaste | ix
18:34 < voidstar> xclip
18:35 < admiralspark> voidstar: you're gonna doubt me but it's cheap enough to just do it. Get one of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E6U4T7Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
18:35 < admiralspark> I have the same issue, these work slick and work well with big hands
18:35 < voidstar> oo, shiny
18:35 < The_Dv8or> admiralspark: if I used that mouse, Id have to DDOS myself for being such a script kiddie
18:35 < gnupluslinux> Code_Man65, how is the script differnt from what you were doing before? invoke-restmethod vs invoke-webrequest or something?
18:36 < admiralspark> that one lets you disable the lights, their cheaper one doesn't ;)
18:36 < admiralspark> it's hardwired too
18:36 < voidstar> this mouse is for my home, so no need to worry about appearances
18:36 <@Code_Man65> gnupluslinux:  The tower api is VERY picky about url formatting and how you send the body.
18:38 < m4221> Is this Data Hoarders Anonymous?
18:39 < gnupluslinux> no that's #reddit-homelab
18:39 < The_Dv8or> if theres one problem I definitely dont have, its data hoarding
18:39 < vavkamil> #metoo
18:40 <@cryptic1> stop it just stop it
18:40 < tsarbomba> POL
18:40 <@cryptic1> memes are BANT
18:40 < tsarbomba> MODS
18:40 < tsarbomba> MODS
18:41 <@cryptic1> here that felda ?
18:41 <@cryptic1> hear that felda?
18:41 <@cryptic1> both of them
18:41 <@cryptic1> ;)
18:41 < tsarbomba> here lies felda
18:41  * killdash9 prepares the banhammer. It's been too long since it's gotten a workout.
18:41 <@cryptic1> yeah he lies a lot
18:42 <+NinjaStyle> hey guys, fuck my life
18:42 < gnupluslinux> alright boyos, been awhile since i've done the job search game. what your go to questions for feeling out a place/job?
18:42  * gnupluslinux fucks NinjaStyle 's life
18:42 <+NinjaStyle> ty
18:42 < gnupluslinux> np bby
18:42 <@cryptic1> confirmed rumors state that felda was behind removing net neutrality
18:42 < voidstar> low and slow or you want industrial vibrator? NinjaStyle
18:42 <+NinjaStyle> doesnt matter
18:43 <@cryptic1> gnupluslinux, "do you play your employees?"
18:43 <@cryptic1> gnupluslinux, "is on call mandatory?"
18:43 < gnupluslinux> cryptic1, in only play for the big boys
18:43 < ihre> "no" every employer out there
18:43 <@Code_Man65> gnupluslinux:  "What is your work/life balance?"
18:43 < gnupluslinux> high rollahs and wales
18:43 < voidstar> .bofh
18:43 <+layer-eight> voidstar, BOFH says: The vendor put the bug there.
18:43 <@killdash9> gnupluslinux: "What's your policy on 'No Trousers Thursday'?"
18:43 <+NinjaStyle> whats your policy on doing drugs at work?
18:43 < abakedapplepie> tower api?
18:43 < abakedapplepie> destiny?
18:43 <@Code_Man65> abakedapplepie:  Ansible Tower
18:44 < felda> cryptic1 came up with net neutrality so no one would try to stop DNS
18:44 < abakedapplepie> oh
18:44 < gnupluslinux> Code_Man65, yeah that's usually one of them. i've learned work hard play hard is a hard no for me almost always
18:44 <@cryptic1> gnupluslinux, "what is your policy on work place bullying? for or against?"
18:44 < gnupluslinux> NinjaStyle, if drugs can i bring NinjaStyle ?
18:45 <+NinjaStyle> can i drink heavily starting at 11 AM?
18:45 < gnupluslinux> guess im going for, how the hell do i tell if it's an HR/recruiter checking keywords vs someone i gotta brush up with
18:45 < Heresiarch> gnupluslinux: "How does this department fit into the strategic vision of the company?" "How does this department handle technical debt?"
18:45 < gnupluslinux> Heresiarch, oh good ones actually
18:46 < gnupluslinux> NinjaStyle, "can i come in drunk af around 2 or so?"
18:47 <+NinjaStyle> who are your competitors that would be interested in your IP?
18:47 <@cryptic1> "does management often fail upwards?"
18:48 <@killdash9> cryptic1: too soon
18:48 < gnupluslinux> cryptic1, pointless question
18:48 <@cryptic1> :>
18:48 <@cryptic1> gnupluslinux, it still needs to be asked
18:48 <@cryptic1> gnupluslinux, you need to see that look of denial
18:48 < gnupluslinux> lol
18:48 <@cryptic1> see how straight face they can be in their reply
18:48 < Heresiarch> gnupluslinux: part of the question is going to be related to what sort of position you're after. Mid-level admin will have different questions to senior, devops will have diff questions to more trad ops.
18:49 < gnupluslinux> NinjaStyle, feel like a basic recruiter should know those at least
18:50 < Heresiarch> gnupluslinux: but generally speaking, you want the following info: does the company see IT as a cost center, or a contributing partner? Does the company have a habit of giving people more responsibility than authority? Does the company budget appropriately for business maintenance as well as expansion?
18:50  * madvillain writes these questions down
18:52 < gnupluslinux> Heresiarch, looking at some devops spots right now. salary's playing into this tbh since im in socal and shits expensive here. devops -> mgmt looks like an interesting path
18:52 < bmurt> anyone know if Internet Explorer Enhanced Security Configuration tracks/logs what resource(s) are being blocked?
18:53 < gnupluslinux> whats the feel for cost center/contributing partner? haven't found a good way to phrase that that gets me more than a nonanswer
18:53 < gnupluslinux> honestly i wanted to get into bioplastics but its a bit out of reach atm
18:54 < Heresiarch> gnupluslinux: see the first question I posed above. Part of it is also going to be the industry that the company is in - if you're in a tech-related company, you'll likely be a contributor. If you're in say, medical manufacturing, well...maybe not as much.
18:54 < tsarbomba> Look Of Denial: The Story Of A Canadian Serial Killer
18:57 < tsarbomba> "no trousers thursday"? pfft. try "no jockeys july"
18:57 < tsarbomba> arlion, bet i can guess your IP
18:58 < arlion[h]> uhhh... is it
18:58 < gnupluslinux> makes sense. i wanted to ask if they'd detail for me the process that occured the last time they had an IT/a department issue but wasn't sure if that was kosher for interviews
18:58 < arlion[h]> youmomdabomb.com
18:58 < AnimalFarmPig> As a preliminary question, I like to find out what a company sells and who its customers are.
18:59 < arlion[h]> tsarbomba: does it immediatly join as my ip and then cloack?
18:59 < AnimalFarmPig> This might sound obvious, but it's not always so obvious.
18:59 < tsarbomba> yup. if you're not using SASL then put a 5 second wait in your autostart
18:59 < tsarbomba> or just use SASL
18:59 < gnupluslinux> zazzle
18:59 < arlion[h]> should be using sasl, but i havn't used this irssi terminal in a long time
19:00 < tsarbomba> if it's not 0.8.18 maybe the sasl script got hosed
19:00 < arlion[h]> so, before I down a bottle of adderall. I need to figuere out what to do.
19:00 < gnupluslinux> mfw i turn off join/part and can't doxx arlion[h]
19:00 < tsarbomba> lol
19:00 <@cryptic1> DOXing is bant!
19:00 < arlion[h]> that's right!
19:00  * tsarbomba throws cryptic1 into a bottle of mrs. butterworth
19:00 <@cryptic1> and so is arlion[h]
19:01 <@cryptic1> BANT BANT BANT
19:01 < AnimalFarmPig> arlion[h]: sort all of the silverware in your kitchen by shininess?
19:01  * arlion[h] licks cryptic1 
19:01 < arlion[h]> tasty
19:01 < gnupluslinux> ./doxx --target cryptic1
19:02 < arlion[h]> AnimalFarmPig: I was thinking about maybe obsesing how I'm not making enough money do mental gymnastics in my sleep trying to figuere out how to pay people.
19:02 <@cryptic1> gnupluslinux, never run that command
19:02 < AnimalFarmPig> arlion[h]: that actually sounds like a solid plan
19:02 < gnupluslinux> currently running as we speak
19:02 < arlion[h]> cryptic1: it's ran, it's time to bant.
19:02 < gnupluslinux> i'll have you yet boyo
19:02  * arlion[h] waves goodbye.
19:03 <@cryptic1> oh hello sigyn
19:03 <@cryptic1> you have been gone for too long
19:03 <@cryptic1> long live Sigyn!
19:03 < gnupluslinux> ./badbot --subject Sigyn
19:04 < JFDkthx> no
19:04 < JFDkthx> go away
19:04 < JFDkthx> or stay
19:04 < JFDkthx> that means cryptic1 cant flood the channel saying get back to work
19:04 < JFDkthx> fukkin hippocrit
19:04 <@cryptic1> oh I can
19:04 <@cryptic1> it does not target ops
19:04 <@cryptic1> muHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAH
19:04 < gnupluslinux> water hippocrip
19:04 < JFDkthx> it should target ops only
19:04 < JFDkthx> ravioli u should be aware
19:05  * cryptic1 submits ticket to ban JFDkthx at the request of Hatter 
19:05 < JFDkthx> i believe it
19:05 <@cryptic1> oh damn there is a new high priority ticket
19:05 <@cryptic1> can you guess which one it is?
19:05 < JFDkthx> hatter is a old bitty
19:05  * arlion[h] ticket requires managment approval.
19:05  * cryptic1 smirks
19:05 < Hatter> cryptic1: I expect resolution within my SLA
19:05 < grumplestiltzkin> [SYN]
19:05  * arlion[h] Pending Approval: cryptic1 
19:06 < Hatter> worth every penny, thank you
19:06  * arlion[h] Ticket has been approved as of 13:05. 
19:06  * arlion[h] Ticket resolved.
19:06 < JFDkthx> resolving ticket, kicked user. will continue to monitor
19:06 < arlion[h]> ^
19:07 < tsarbomba> lol. cryptic had better check the source in sigyn's github.
19:07 < tsarbomba> there is no "chanop protection"
19:07 < JFDkthx> tsarbomba: shhh
19:08 < alazare619> cryptic1:  fuck signyn
19:09 < alazare619> that damn bot z/k-lined me
19:09 <@Code_Man65> You have to love it when you tell the vmware admins that 6.7 is finally adding vTPM which means you can bitlocker your vm's and their response is "eww"
19:09 < Hatter> hah Pizza Hat in Iran stole the redhat linux logo
19:09 < alazare619> Code_Man65:  my hardware (at home) is 6.7 certified
19:09 < alazare619> i updated to it
19:09 < alazare619> all the vm's were listed as "not recognizeable"
19:10 < alazare619> had to roll back
19:10 < mrghostman> rekt
19:10 < alazare619> as much as id like vTPM
19:10 < m4221> Code_Man65: we are still on vSphere 5.5 ...
19:10 < Heresiarch> does bitlocker have a mode where it will boot non-interactively?
19:10 < alazare619> cant do it right now so i'm on 6.5
19:10 < gnupluslinux> Code_Man65, get it working. worry about security later(tm)
19:10 < alazare619> side note you could do bitlocker inside of esxi
19:10 < ihre> Hatter: see, now we're talking about reasons for boots on the ground, time to start the invasion
19:10 < gnupluslinux> Heresiarch, would that not... defeat the purpose of bitlocker?
19:10 <@Code_Man65> m4221:  That's an unsupported version pretty soon
19:10 < alazare619> just need a virtual floppy drive
19:10 < m4221> Code_Man65: well shit dawg
19:10 < gnupluslinux> unless you're thinking some kind of smart card auth
19:11 <@Code_Man65> You can do bitlocker without a pin prompt
19:11 <@cryptic1> don't hate on sigyn
19:11 < Heresiarch> gnupluslinux: not necessarily. But it would make mass reboot/migration situations practical.
19:11 < alazare619> Code_Man65: with a floppy drive you didnt need ap in
19:11 < tsarbomba> s/later(tm)/if you have time
19:11 < alazare619> its listed as a flash drive with wich the key is stored on
19:11 < gnupluslinux> oh i'm sure and have personally wished it before. just not sure how it'd work
19:11 < alazare619> if you move the vmdk without the "floppy" it wont boot tho
19:12 <@Code_Man65> I'd rather have the vTPM so you can also do device/credential guard on Win 10/Server 2016+ vm's (and virtual smartcards for VDI situations)
19:12 < m4221> Code_Man65: we are on  exch 2007 still too haha
19:14 < JFDkthx> m4221: at least you arent 2k3 functional level
19:14 < JFDkthx> dragonfleas:
19:14 < tsarbomba> what did dragonfleas do now
19:14 < JFDkthx> see previous
19:16 < dragonfleas> hello i've been called
19:23 < ihre> https://youtu.be/zR7LOtMix9w?t=88 hehehe
19:23 <+layer-eight> YouTube Chappelle's Show - PopCopy - Uncensored by 2018-02-24T08:00:03.000Z (duration: 3:33) on Sat Feb 24 15:00:03 UTC 2018, 2018-02-24T08:00:03.000Z views
19:23 < scwizard> infinity war comes out tonight lol
19:27 < m4221> JFDkthx: we are at 2k8 functional level
19:27 < estranger> man thats a decade ago
19:28  * m4221 slaps estranger for going against the "don't change anything" grain
19:29 < estranger> i work for a nosql startup... im very against the grain
19:30 < m4221> estranger: can i haz gig?
19:30 < ihre> a gigawatt of nosql?
19:31 < gnupluslinux> estranger, is it still technically a startup lol
19:32 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> McDonaldsWiFi, Any updates?
19:32 < estranger> gnupluslinux, yeah, hopefully nto for long lol
19:32 < estranger> m4221, are uz smart?
19:32 < estranger> ihre, 2 parsecs of nosql
19:33 < m4221> estranger: I made the kessel run in under .4 parsecs
19:33 < gnupluslinux> estranger, hoping for that IPO payout boye
19:33 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> estranger, SmartM4221 device requires internet. Without it, useless.
19:33 < arlion[h]> ah, someone posted on my thread that they were concerned I was an alcoholic.
19:33 < arlion[h]> Reddit is so sweet.
19:33 <+MillerBOSS> Good share ihre
19:33 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> arlion[h], link?
19:33 < estranger> gnupluslinux, no doubt.. i keep watching mongo go up, and they're tech is peanuts
19:33 < ihre> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/09/google-chrome-block-auto-play-video/ so why didnt this happen? fucking auto play should be banned
19:33 < arlion[h]> my reddit account and my irc account are seperate
19:34 < gnupluslinux> mfw arlion[h] is cranky
19:34 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> lol
19:34 < estranger> https://www.mongodb.com/blog/post/active-active-application-architectures-with-mongodb  <-- they are actually proud of this write up
19:34 < arlion[h]> >.>
19:34 < Hunterkll> ihre, its still coming
19:34 <+MillerBOSS> We use linux
19:34 < arlion[h]> ^ yeah, I thought it was coming in the next version of chrome
19:35 < ihre> Hunterkll: like ww3?
19:35 <+MillerBOSS> I am the manager.
19:35 < Hunterkll> ihre, https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2017/09/autoplay-policy-changes
19:36 < Hunterkll> ihre, lol apparently it already happened
19:36 < Hunterkll> "Same as many others. This worked for about a day before these sites seem to have found a way around it."
19:37 < gnupluslinux> DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS
19:37 < abakedapplepie> fucking
19:37 <+MillerBOSS> GAYS GAYS GAYS
19:37 < abakedapplepie> why doesnt this switch have a hardware reset button
19:37 < abakedapplepie> console port is not responsive
19:37 < abakedapplepie> fuck'
19:37 < ihre> Hunterkll: heh yeah just sorted by newest as well, fuckers
19:37 < gnupluslinux> everyone has aids!
19:37 <+MillerBOSS> ZOMG gnupluslinux
19:37 <+MillerBOSS> But I want to live
19:38 < gnupluslinux> maaaaat daaaaaamon
19:39 < abakedapplepie> DAMN YOU LINKSYS
19:39 < abakedapplepie> YOU FUCKS
19:39 < abakedapplepie> i just want to factory reset this fuck
19:39 <+MillerBOSS> Have you tried turning it off and on again?
19:39 < abakedapplepie> im not asking too much
19:39 < ihre> abakedapplepie: factory is down
19:39 < baudlord> man I remember the time I was on tech support with unifi
19:40 < baudlord> for an AP that didn't want to reset itself
19:40 < abakedapplepie> MillerBOSS: yes :| no data comes across serial on boot even
19:40 <+MillerBOSS> :P
19:40 < abakedapplepie> idk if this cable is not a standard cable
19:40 < abakedapplepie> or if the port is bad
19:40 < abakedapplepie> the cable says "d-link" on it
19:40 < abakedapplepie> so i may as well just kill myself
19:40 < estranger> good plan
19:40 < ihre> definitely not linksys compatible
19:41 < abakedapplepie> i wouldnt be surprised at all if d-link made their own serial pinout
19:41 < ihre> you need a linksys certfitied cable, everybody knows that
19:41 < abakedapplepie> not in the least
19:41 < abakedapplepie> those idiots are capable of terrible things
19:41 <+MillerBOSS> Lets see
19:41 <+MillerBOSS> .bofh
19:41 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS, BOFH says: suboptimal routing experience
19:41 < ihre> db9 is routed to wan
19:41 < ihre> yeah that sucks
19:42 <+MillerBOSS> .bofh
19:42 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS, BOFH says: bad ether in the cables
19:42 <+MillerBOSS> That is right there abakedapplepie. Thanks layer-eight
19:42 < ihre> on a roll
19:43 < abakedapplepie> welp confirmed the serial port on my motherboard is legit so it must be this piece of shit switch
19:43 <+MillerBOSS> But is it too legit?
19:43 < abakedapplepie> that sucks
19:43 < abakedapplepie> big time
19:43 <+MillerBOSS> Could be
19:45 < scwizard> man
19:45 < w1ndfalc0n> Definitely too legit for linksys
19:45 < scwizard> just realizing i spend like 120 dollars a year on domain names lol
19:45 < scwizard> (that I don't really use except some maybe idk)
19:46 < gnupluslinux> thats only like what? 10 domains?
19:46 < w1ndfalc0n> @scwizard $80 here, the .techs are expensive
19:46 < gnupluslinux> come back when you clear 100 #snobbery
19:49 < Casteil> bah, should've kept my last water bill
19:50 < Casteil> can't remember the rate... trying to determine how much I'm going to get to pay to fill my pool
19:50 < ihre> doesnt your 'water provider' list its cost per liter/gallon ?
19:51 < corn266> Yea you should just be able to google your municiple and "water cost"
19:52 < dragonfleas> I can't figure out why my second DC at HQ will not create the NETLOGON or SYSVOL shares
19:52 < dragonfleas> like what the hell is going on
19:52 < dragonfleas> I've tried 3 different microsoft KB's and it just won't do it
19:52 < ihre> .bofh
19:52 <+layer-eight> ihre, BOFH says: divide-by-zero error
19:52 <+giant_it_burrit> do you have space?
19:52 < ihre> nope, that cant be it
19:54 < gnupluslinux> .bofh
19:54 <+layer-eight> gnupluslinux, BOFH says: Your/our computer(s) had suffered a memory leak, and we are waiting for them to be topped up.
19:56 < dragonfleas_> and my pc just crashed again
19:56 < dragonfleas_> oh my god
19:56 < dragonfleas_> fuck today
19:56 < dragonfleas_> no bluescreen just hard lock
19:56 <+MillerBOSS> Oh thats easy. downloadmoreram.com
19:56 < dragonfleas_> OMEGALUL
19:57 < corn266> dragonfleas_: you on rhel?
19:57 < dragonfleas_> so yeah
19:57 <+MillerBOSS> Fucking simple. No more leaky memory
19:57 < dragonfleas_> uhhh domain controller won't create NETLOGON or SYSVOL
19:57 < grumplestiltzkin> dragonfleas_: MS KBs are like iced cream flavors, you must try them all
19:57 < dragonfleas_> any ideas boys?
19:57 < dragonfleas_> I have tried every one I could find on the topic
19:57 < dragonfleas_> want a pastebin of my dcdiag?
19:57 < grumplestiltzkin> is the domain controller synched with the others?
19:57 < dragonfleas_> yeah i manually replicated with repadmin
19:58 <+NinjaStyle> if there is no sysvol it cant be
19:58 < dragonfleas_> did /syncall and replicatee dc2 dc1 "DC=Domain,DC=Local"
19:58 < dragonfleas_> both were successful no error messages
19:59 < grumplestiltzkin> like - when one DC gets away from the herd, a non-authoritative restore was always a quick and easy answer.   It was literally stop service, change 1 registry flag, then restart service and win.  now its a multi-hour project with PS scripts and black magic
19:59 <+NinjaStyle> what makes you say there is no sysvol DrGibby| ?
19:59 <+NinjaStyle> dragonfleas_: **
19:59 < insecurity> way she fuckin goes
19:59 <+DrGibby|> FUCK YOU STOP MENTIONING ME
19:59 < JFDkthx> DrGibby|:
19:59 <+DrGibby|> <3
19:59 < grumplestiltzkin> DrGibby|: IS IT FRIDAY
19:59 <+DrGibby|> oh god dammit
19:59 <+giant_it_burrit> whats wrong DrGibby|
19:59 < JFDkthx> mistiry: is it friday
20:00 <+giant_it_burrit> someone poke DrGibby|
20:00 <+giant_it_burrit> i think he died
20:00 <+MillerBOSS> DrGibby| 👉 STFU
20:00 <@cryptic1> guys leave DrGibby| alone
20:00 < Hunterkll> urgh
20:00 < dragonfleas_> NinjaStyle, SYSVOL does exist, but it's not listed in net share, made sure i was running as admin, netlogon definitely does not exist, and there is no scripts folder either
20:00 < Hunterkll> i can't decide on a film for desert shooting
20:00 <@cryptic1> no bullying here
20:01 <+giant_it_burrit> Hunterkll: ?
20:01 < dragonfleas_> the sysvol share is not accessible either
20:01 <@cryptic1> #safespacereddit-sysadmin
20:01 <+giant_it_burrit> cryptic1: plz why
20:01 <+giant_it_burrit> we do it to felda
20:01 < Hunterkll> giant_it_burrit, i. can't. decide. on. a. film. for. desert. photography.
20:01 <+giant_it_burrit> ah
20:01 < dragonfleas_> god going through this dcdiag and replacing everything with generic names is going to suck
20:01 <+giant_it_burrit> that makes more sense
20:01 < JFDkthx> Hunterkll: use the picture type of flm
20:01 < gnupluslinux> you coming out to cali again Hunterkll ?
20:01 < Hunterkll> Portra doesn't feel right
20:01 < Hunterkll> gnupluslinux, ya next weekend, no thtis one
20:02 < Hunterkll> gonna spend the weekend w/A-KO because I had to burn some EQDs to meet my status challenge w/AA
20:02 < Hunterkll> and the round trip to LA was like $20 more than i needed in EQDs
20:03 < Hunterkll> gnupluslinux, but yea i'll be landing sometime around 7PM at LAX
20:03 < Hunterkll> on the 4th
20:03 < gnupluslinux> EQDs?
20:03 < Hunterkll> gnupluslinux, elite qualifying dollars. one of the metrics for american airlines status
20:03 < Hunterkll> you need EQDs + EQS or EQMs (elite qualifying segments or miles)
20:03 < gnupluslinux> i c
20:04 < Hunterkll> and with a challenge, if you get X in a specific time, you can get higher status for lower spend
20:04 < Hunterkll> but has to be in a specific time period
20:04 < Hunterkll> my other plan was to fly back and forth to new york like 3 times in a single day
20:04 < Hunterkll> lol
20:04 < gnupluslinux> you staying for drinks or flying right back out?
20:04 <+MillerBOSS> Sounds like a scam.
20:04 < Hunterkll> stayin' till monday
20:04 < gnupluslinux> MillerBOSS, >airlines
20:04 < Hunterkll> MillerBOSS, the 2 free checked bags and constant first class upgrades are nice. :p
20:04 < Hunterkll> i just check all my shit now since i don't ever have to pay for it
20:04 <+MillerBOSS> But you had to spend much much more to get there right?
20:04 < Hunterkll> if i had to pay for it i've probably racked a couple thousand in checked bag fees at this point
20:05 < Hunterkll> not really since i'm already doing the travel anyway
20:05 < gnupluslinux> Hunterkll, flies like its his fucking hobby
20:05 < Hunterkll> ^
20:05 < gnupluslinux> it'd be spent one way or another
20:05 < Hunterkll> shit, i just got back Iceland last week, and i flew from pittsburgh to BWI to catch my flight to KEF
20:05 < Hunterkll> yea
20:05 < Hunterkll> the only 'extra' trip is just going out to LA for the fuck of it
20:05 <+MillerBOSS> Must be nice living at home
20:05 < Hunterkll> since i needed like 278 EQD or something
20:05 < Hunterkll> and this trip is like 310 EQD
20:05 < gnupluslinux> LA is a terrible place to go
20:06 < Hunterkll> gnupluslinux, well SNA would have added like $500 to the price
20:06 < Hunterkll> so fuck that
20:06 < Hunterkll> A-KO can fuckin drive an hour
20:06 < Hunterkll> :D
20:06 < gnupluslinux> well yeah, SNA is tiny
20:06 < Hunterkll> if i'm going cross country on a lark to meet an objective i'm doing it for a reason
20:06 < Hunterkll> lol
20:06 < gnupluslinux> only thing worth there imo is if (A) company pays and you're gonna be in Irvine or (B) you're flying SNA to SAC cause that's a $68 one way
20:06 < Hunterkll> if i'm going to blizzcon i'm paying upfront for that first class ticket both ways
20:07 < Hunterkll> I don't remember where i flew
20:07 < Hunterkll> but it was round trip $1080 first class for my blizzcon flight
20:07 < Hunterkll> cross country
20:07 < gnupluslinux> you most likely flew to LAX
20:07 < Hunterkll> not bad at all
20:07 < tsarbomba> who let hunterkll into the ritalin?
20:08 < gnupluslinux> stupid how a domestic flight is more expensive than an international
20:08 < Hunterkll> yea
20:08 < Hunterkll> well
20:08 < Hunterkll> gnupluslinux, that was first class the entire way bought outright
20:08 <+MillerBOSS> You did, tsarbomba. Its yours after all
20:08 < Hunterkll> regular it was like $400 or something
20:08 < tsarbomba> please, the only stimulant i care for is the llello
20:08 < gnupluslinux> can literally fly around the world on a 16 hr flight for $400. 3 hr cross country? $600 boyo! Oregon to Cali? $800
20:09 < gnupluslinux> Hunterkll, yeah that's not bad. just saying how ridiculous it is on a dollar/mi/hr spent
20:09 < Hunterkll> yea but you also have to remember bag fees and shit
20:09 <+MillerBOSS> Enjoy your llello, tsarbomba
20:09 < tsarbomba> how could i not?
20:09 < Hunterkll> that $400 ticket aint really $400
20:09 < dragonfleas_> can you guys tell me why this is happening, it's getting bad errors but it's saying it's passing FRS event
20:09 < dragonfleas_> https://pastebin.com/j8d31wxU
20:10 < tsarbomba> bag fees? #airplaneamateur
20:10 < dragonfleas_> NinjaStyle,
20:10 < Hunterkll> lol
20:10 < Hunterkll> i'm talking about gnupluslinux's 16 hour $400 cross world flight
20:10 < tsarbomba> looks like replication problems, dragonfleas
20:10 < tsarbomba> have you tried resolving all the DCs from your file server(s)?
20:11 < gnupluslinux> Hunterkll, nah man we flew los angeles -> (i think vancouver?) -> nagoya for like $388 a pop
20:11 < Hunterkll> gnupluslinux, no bags?
20:11 < gnupluslinux> 1 bag
20:11 < dragonfleas_> should i try resolving all DC's from each-other exclusively?
20:11 < Hunterkll> gnupluslinux, carryon only?
20:11 < dragonfleas_> sorry independently*
20:11 < gnupluslinux> 1 personal, 1 carry on, 1 checked
20:11 < Hunterkll> neat
20:11 < gnupluslinux> actually 2 checked
20:11 < Hunterkll> well, from a major hub it's a bit different
20:11 < gnupluslinux> since i flew back with 2
20:12 < tsarbomba> if you're using AD then any member server should get the same output in the same domain
20:12 < tsarbomba> you can also use repladmin
20:12 < gnupluslinux> it was like, prime tourist season though as i understand lol
20:12 < dragonfleas_> yeah the delta's look good on the summaries
20:12 < tsarbomba> to troubleshoot replication
20:12 < dragonfleas_> no errors
20:12 < gnupluslinux> played into it
20:12 < Hunterkll> gnupluslinux, no, it was SNA i flew to for blizzcon
20:12 < Hunterkll> gnupluslinux, $1080 for SNA round trip from BWI first class
20:12 < dragonfleas_> i replicated and syncall'ed and it returned no errors
20:12 < tsarbomba> also check dns server(s) for events
20:12 < gnupluslinux> oh then damn, 1k for a 1st class cross country to SNA is good deal
20:12 < Hunterkll> i bought it like at least a month ahead of time
20:13 < tsarbomba> 1k for almost any first-class flight is a good deal
20:13 < grumplestiltzkin> Hunterkll: [Enter]
20:13 < Hunterkll> ya, a month and a day ahead of time
20:13 < Hunterkll> lol
20:13 < dragonfleas_> tsarbomba, my main DNS server is DC1
20:14 < Hunterkll> because i remember buying it while i was at a casino in louisiana
20:14 < tsarbomba> you're using "domain.local"?
20:14 < tsarbomba> jesus i thought that was a placeholder
20:15 < Hunterkll> oh god
20:15 < dragonfleas_> tsarbomba, that was a placeholder buddy
20:15 < Hunterkll> haha
20:15 < Hunterkll> okay good
20:15 < Hunterkll> lol
20:15 < dragonfleas_> jesus christ LOL
20:15 < tsarbomba> no kidding
20:15 < tsarbomba> well fuck yo'ure using "dc1, dc3" for hostnames
20:15 < dragonfleas_> no
20:15 < tsarbomba> who knows how far down the fucking rabbit hole this goes
20:15 < Hunterkll> renamed
20:15 < Hunterkll> lol
20:15 < dragonfleas_> renamed again
20:15 < Hunterkll> yea
20:15 < Hunterkll> like
20:15 < Hunterkll> i'm not gonna tell you my home DCs are named like KSC-HOME-DC001
20:15 < Hunterkll> er
20:15 < dragonfleas_> i'm not going to reference my actually host names in this chat lmfao
20:15 < Hunterkll> whoops :D
20:15 < tsarbomba> well whatever "dc1" corresponds to doesn't seem to be correctly configured in dns
20:15 < grumplestiltzkin> everyone knows you should name domain controllers after norse mythology or cartoon characters
20:16 < tsarbomba> my dc is named DC420BLAZEIT
20:16 < Hunterkll> flubber
20:16 < Hunterkll> flubber.umd.edu
20:16 < Hunterkll> i actually sold that machine to a former UMD student once
20:16 < gnupluslinux> xXx420dcBLAZExXx
20:16 < Hunterkll> NeXTstation mono, 110MB HDD, 4MB ram, they ripped the NeXTstep GUI components out of it to make room
20:16 < Hunterkll> it used to be the CS department server
20:16 < Hunterkll> lol
20:16 < Hunterkll> sold it to a former student after he saw it boot and saw what it was for like $1500
20:16 < Hunterkll> >_>
20:16 < Hunterkll> thank god for square
20:17 < dragonfleas_> 420ganjasmoke.weed.local
20:17 < dragonfleas_> FQDN on 4/20
20:17 < Hunterkll> ya'll wanna make me do this
20:17 < Hunterkll> a weed AD
20:17 < dragonfleas_> do it
20:17 < Hunterkll> with weed sharepoint
20:17 < Hunterkll> and weed exchange
20:17 < admiralspark> Ganjapoint
20:17 < dragonfleas_> GPO pushes out png of snoop dogg back grounds
20:17 < admiralspark> logon sound is smokeweederryday.mp3
20:17 < Hunterkll> dear god
20:17 < dragonfleas_> JUST DO IT
20:17 < Hunterkll> and then use it as a lab for a class somewhere
20:18 <+NinjaStyle> dragonfleas_: what version of windows server is this?
20:18 < Hunterkll> "I've brought our lab environment here today for you to try these techniques in, please log into your workstation and access the Ganjapoint link to get the class guide"
20:18 <+NinjaStyle> dragonfleas_: FRS is deprecated
20:18 < dragonfleas_> NinjaStyle, windows server 2012 R2
20:18 < SHE0G0RATH> that would engage the kids haha!
20:18 < Hunterkll> suddenly all the machines chime out SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY
20:18 < dragonfleas_> yeah but my functional level is 2003r2
20:18 < dragonfleas_> we have a 2003r2 DC
20:18 < Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, even in 2016 it still works. no guarantees for 2019 though
20:19 < dragonfleas_> .ghost dragonfleas
20:19 < admiralspark> SNMP is deprecated, and it "still works" ;)
20:19 < dragonfleas_> shit
20:19 < dragonfleas> i'm glad no one took my nickname
20:19 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, as in, it will be ripped out of windows at some point soon
20:19 < dragonfleas> yeah i'm running a dcdiag on my 2003r2 DC right now
20:19 < admiralspark> Hunterkll: smokeweederryday as the cortana first setup speech! Then WDS an entire lab all at once!
20:19 < dragonfleas> to see if it's DNS
20:19 < dragonfleas> verbose comprehensive
20:20 < admiralspark> Hunterkll: I know, hence the quotes ;)
20:20 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, Cortana plugin to control WDS / SCCM
20:20 <+NinjaStyle> dragonfleas: is the first DNS server your other DC?
20:20 < admiralspark> dragonfleas: you're registered aren't you?
20:20 < admiralspark> https://goo.gl/Pp1KQj
20:20 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, BLAZE IT means "reboot and reformat all workstations"
20:20 < Hunterkll> LIGHT UP A FATTY pushes new server images
20:20 < Hunterkll> etc
20:20 <+NinjaStyle> dragonfleas: based on that error looks like a DNS issue
20:20 < admiralspark> aliases in PS profiles pushed via GPO
20:21 < dragonfleas> it failed the systemlog test
20:21 < dragonfleas> what the hell
20:21 < dragonfleas> "an error event occured" every 3 seconds
20:21 <+MillerBOSS> s/aliases in PS profiles/Mymom
20:21 <+layer-eight> admiralspark meant: "Mymom pushed via GPO"
20:21 < admiralspark> So, I feel the answer will be "no" but does anyone here deal with C2M2 and use the survey.c2m2.com website?
20:22 < dragonfleas> NinjaStyle, yeah DNS is working fine, I can resolve all DC's by hostname, reverse resolution works, i'm able to ping
20:22 < dragonfleas> DNS tests all passed in dcdiag
20:23 <+MillerBOSS> Expired cert
20:23 < dragonfleas> what do you mean expired cert
20:24 <+MillerBOSS> Regarding survey.c2m2.com, dragonfleas
20:24 < dragonfleas> oops
20:24 < dragonfleas> ok
20:24 <+MillerBOSS> Captain obvious MillerBOSS
20:25 < tsarbomba> did the hair metal band poison really need their whole catalogue to be remastered?
20:25 < tsarbomba> seriously?
20:25 <+shakygator> can anyone recommend a cheap soundbar for a tv
20:25 < tsarbomba> is it the same "cannot resolve" error in the event logs, dragonfleas?
20:25 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, no
20:26 < tsarbomba> and did you check the DNS server log on the failing DC?
20:26 < Heresiarch> tsarbomba: they don't need nothin...but a good time.
20:26 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, i'm going into the dns logs right now
20:26  * tsarbomba leaps at heresiarch 
20:26 < Heresiarch> tsarbomba: that's right...talk dirty to me.
20:26  * tsarbomba screams
20:27 < tsarbomba> i demand a full remaster of everything warrant, kix, and faster pussycat ever recorded
20:27 <+MillerBOSS> And L.A Guns
20:27 < Heresiarch> tsarbomba: warrant? WARRANT? What's next, a remastered collection of Nelson?
20:27 < tsarbomba> i suppose i shouldn't include warrant in that list. after all, they did create "uncle tom's cabin"
20:27 < tsarbomba> which just plain rocks
20:28 < tsarbomba> but they also created "cherry pie"
20:28  * tsarbomba conflicted
20:28 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, just checked DNS logs, last ones were from 4/3/2018, DNS appears to be good
20:28 < tsarbomba> what are the new errors in the DC's logs?
20:29 < dragonfleas> they are in the FRS logs
20:29 < felda> looks like they caught the Waffle House shooter
20:29 < alazare619> may not be the right place to ask
20:29 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, event 13508
20:29 < alazare619> but does anyone know of something like wireshark but for android
20:29 < dragonfleas> FRS service is running on both DC1 & DC3
20:30 < alazare619> i'm trying to find where this apk (my banking app) does its calls
20:30 < ihre> there is probably just a tcpdump apk available
20:30 < tsarbomba> event 13508 from what source??
20:30 < alazare619> so i can write a simple script to pull the QFX files down my banking app only has to login 1 time and it saves it ...but pc has multifactor thats annoying AF
20:30 < ihre> https://www.androidtcpdump.com/ lol original domain
20:30 < tsarbomba> https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/ie/en-US/53a500ed-ccc5-4794-9137-65ce3dae4ac1/sysvol-replication-failing-13508?forum=winserverDS
20:30 < tsarbomba> ?
20:30 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, from DC1 to DC3
20:31 < tsarbomba> looks like DNS still
20:31 < dragonfleas> hmmmmm
20:31 < grumplestiltzkin> felda: I only briefly heard about it on the drive in today, it sounded like an unarmed college-age kid took an opportunity and wrestled hte shooter down.  if that's the story, his balls go clang
20:31 < tsarbomba> your DCs aren't replicating. if sysvol can't replicate you have bigger problems
20:31 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, it's always DNS right
20:31 < tsarbomba> i'm gonna buy that shirt, i htink
20:31 <+MillerBOSS> https://twitter.com/MNPDNashville/status/988483202904940544
20:31 < dragonfleas> yeah, apparently this has been going on for a month but everything's been working fine
20:32 < tsarbomba> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/713eSknLqOL._SL1500_.jpg
20:32 < dragonfleas> "The File Replication Service has detected an enabled disk write cache on the drive containing the directory c:\windows\ntfrs\jet on the computer DC3. The File Replication Service might not recover when power to the drive is interrupted and critical updates are lost."
20:32 < dragonfleas> what does this mean
20:32 < tsarbomba> ah, they got the "sovereign citizen" who was too crazy to buy guns but not for his dad to give him some
20:33 < tsarbomba> dragonfleas, the write cache caches writes. is your c:\ drive on dc3 on a raid array? if so, is the controller configured a) with write caching enabled, and b) without a battery?
20:33 < grumplestiltzkin> criminals gonna crimin
20:34 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, let me check OMSA
20:34 < abakedapplepie> dragonfleas: basically your drive might cache writes and lose power before writing them, corrupting your AD
20:34 < abakedapplepie> which is a bad thing
20:34 < tsarbomba> that could also be a generic "best practice" warning, though i'm not aware of anything that battery-backed write caching would break in AD
20:34 < tsarbomba> at least not with a working battery
20:34 < abakedapplepie> yeah
20:35 < dragonfleas> it's definitely got a raid array
20:35 < dragonfleas> what the fuckkk
20:35 < tsarbomba> could be that you've got an unbacked controller and that array has write caching enabled. i haven't heard of that totally disabling FRS, though. can you check your raid controller and see if it's throwing low/dead battery warnings
20:35 < tsarbomba> maybe that's what changed
20:36 < dragonfleas> i can't install dell openmanage because i typed in "gwmi Win32_Bios" and the serialnumber is returning 000000
20:36 < dragonfleas> anybody got the link to the most recent version of OSMA?
20:36 < dragonfleas> OMSA*
20:36 < tsarbomba> if you haven't already installed openmanage then you've more or less lost the war
20:36 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, why is that
20:37 < tsarbomba> anyway stick to the basics. is the array enabled with write caching. is the controller battery-backed? if so, is the battery good? if not, when did it die and does that coincide with FRS failing?
20:37 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, this is a new DC
20:39 < tsarbomba> < dragonfleas> yeah, apparently this has been going on for a month but everything's been working fine
20:39 < tsarbomba> >working for a month
20:39 < tsarbomba> >brand new install
20:39  * tsarbomba stares
20:39 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, well i installed it a month ago
20:39 < dragonfleas> so it's been happening since i deployed it lmao
20:40 < tsarbomba> and FRS worked until it didn't, right?
20:40 < dragonfleas> yeah
20:40 < tsarbomba> okay so everything HASN'T been working fine or?
20:40 < abakedapplepie> i think frs is working fine
20:40 < tsarbomba> jesus christ, dude. you have a gift for introducing absolutely pointless variables into any troubleshoot
20:40 < abakedapplepie> thats just a warning message
20:40 < abakedapplepie> ive seen it many a time
20:40 < dragonfleas> abakedapplepie, no you didn't see the earlier messages
20:40 < abakedapplepie> og
20:40 < tsarbomba> he had a bunch of earlier messages saying FRS didn't start
20:40 < abakedapplepie> well disregard me then
20:40 < abakedapplepie> lol
20:41 < dragonfleas> FRS doesn't like the name
20:41 < dragonfleas> what happens if AD is fucked from dead write-cache battery
20:41 < tsarbomba> it doesn't like the fact that it can't resolve what i assume is a role-holding non-RODC
20:41 < dragonfleas> yeah i moved all the FSMO roles to it
20:41 < tsarbomba> AD might not be fucked but something might be stopping FRS from starting until the write cache situation is fixed
20:42 <+AnonymooseWork> dead write cache battery on a SAN controller?
20:42 < tsarbomba> could be as simple as switching the controller from write-back to write-through
20:42 < tsarbomba> s/controller/array
20:42 <+layer-eight> tsarbomba meant: "could be as simple as switching the array from write-back to write-through"
20:42 < Nightcinder> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07475C1VT or https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0772D5Y5R/
20:42 < dragonfleas> i had no idea a write-cache battery being dead could actually fuck something up
20:42 < dragonfleas> i figured it was just a form of fall-back safety
20:42 < tsarbomba> did you think they put the batteries in there for shits and giggles?
20:42 < dragonfleas> TIL
20:42 <+AnonymooseWork> lol tsarbomba
20:42 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, no i thought it was fall-back
20:42 < tsarbomba> it is. if the power to the controller dies, it saves the data being written.
20:42 < dragonfleas> ao
20:43 < dragonfleas> I'VE ONLY BEEN A SYSADMIN FOR A YEAR OK
20:43 < dragonfleas> i'm still noob as fuck
20:43 <+AnonymooseWork> also without the cache battery, it writes directly to disk so no caching and performance gets hurt
20:43 <+AnonymooseWork> dragonfleas - get guud scrub :D j/k
20:43 < tsarbomba> ok so now you need to circle back and check the messages. if FRS is only throwing DNS warnings it's probably running.
20:43 <+AnonymooseWork> dragonfleas so long as you have backups?
20:43 < dragonfleas> omsa is almost finished
20:43 <+AnonymooseWork> you have backups?
20:43 < tsarbomba> if it's saying "FRS can't start" then you have bigger problems
20:43 < dragonfleas> FRS is running, both the servers are running the service
20:44 < dragonfleas> they just can't replicate to eachother through FRS
20:44 < tsarbomba> okay. so we're down to a more basic replication issue.
20:44 < Hatter> I'm enjoying some chips with guacamole
20:44 < tsarbomba> repladmin says nothing even now?
20:44 <+AnonymooseWork> why are you using FRS to replicate sysvol?
20:44  * AnonymooseWork dusts off the "what year is it" meme
20:44 < tsarbomba> he's on a 2003 domain
20:45 < dragonfleas> lol
20:45 < tsarbomba> i believe it uses FRS by default
20:45 < dragonfleas> yep^
20:45 <+AnonymooseWork> ahhh
20:45 <+AnonymooseWork> 2003
20:45 <+AnonymooseWork> yes
20:45 <+AnonymooseWork> FRS by default
20:45 < dragonfleas> D-FSR doesn't exist on 2003
20:45 < tsarbomba> another reason to kick those narsty old servers off the network
20:45 <+AnonymooseWork> ^^
20:45 < dragonfleas> that's what i'm TRYING to do
20:45 < Heresiarch> QoTD: "Stop listening to his Rails bullshit!"
20:45 < dragonfleas> i introduced a new DC at HQ so i could replicate everything over and upgrade old server to 2012 R2
20:45 < grumplestiltzkin> dragonfleas: how many other DCs do you have?
20:46 < dragonfleas> only 2 excluding failing new DC
20:46 < dragonfleas> 1 at sister site and 1 at HQ
20:46 < dragonfleas> i'm trying to get some AD redundancy intersite
20:46 < tsarbomba> in the warning message regarding sysvol not replicating did you try resolving the EXACT dns name it mentioned from the other DC?
20:46 < dragonfleas> yes
20:46 < dragonfleas> FQN
20:46 < tsarbomba> like if it says "mydcroolz.mydomain.com" use that
20:46 < dragonfleas> yep
20:46 < grumplestiltzkin> honestly, you can take this as an opportunity - replace the failed battery and reinstall that one, rejoin domain and promote it
20:47 < tsarbomba> but did hte warning message GIVE the FQDN?
20:47 < tsarbomba> it gives whatever string it is trying to resolve in the message
20:47 < grumplestiltzkin> reinstall with whatever your endstate version is
20:47 < dragonfleas> it gave both the FQDN and the hostname
20:47 < tsarbomba> hostname is inside fqdn
20:47 < dragonfleas> yes
20:47 < dragonfleas> there were multiple errors in event log, some had just hostname, some had FQDN
20:48 < dragonfleas> both resolved fine
20:48 < tsarbomba> okay do this. go to non-resolving DC. issue nslookup command with the given hostname or FQDN using the other DC as DNS server
20:48 < tsarbomba> nslookup blahblah.fqdn.com other.server.ip.address
20:48 < tsarbomba> then reverse it
20:48 < dragonfleas> i didn't know i could nslookup from another server acting as DNS
20:48 < tsarbomba> now you know. and knowing is half the battle.
20:49 < dragonfleas> hahahaha
20:49 < dragonfleas> i restarted the failing DC
20:49 < dragonfleas> and it's inaccessible now
20:49 < dragonfleas> jesus christ
20:49 < dragonfleas> to the server room i'll brb
20:49 < grumplestiltzkin> dragonfleas: buy a new raid controller battery post-haste
20:49 < tsarbomba> either the controller shit itself or there was some pending network change fucking EVERYTHING up that kicked in
20:49 <@mistiry> JFDkthx: pretty sure it is
20:49 < tsarbomba> grumplestiltzkin, write-through/no battery ride or die
20:50 < grumplestiltzkin> wait - I thought he said the battery was dead, theres no battery at all?
20:50 < grumplestiltzkin> how does it not throw all the errors at boot?
20:50 < tsarbomba> no that's what i was supposing
20:50 < tsarbomba> but it doesn't sound like hardware, it sounds like it's back to network/name resolution
20:51 < tsarbomba> of course if the server is hanging on the option ROM saying "YOUR BATTERY IS DEAD" then that's the first fix to try anyway
20:51 <+AnonymooseWork> but its not required
20:52 < tsarbomba> nah it really shouldn't be but some arrays won't start up if they're in write-back if the battery dies
20:52 < tsarbomba> or they'll prompt for boot confirmation
20:52 < grumplestiltzkin> eh - time/money, if it's hosed, and he needs to upgrade version anyway, this might be an opportune time. Make sure all the FSMO roles are elsewhere and git-r-done
20:52 < tsarbomba> yeah i kinda hope they didn't do a role migration before this thing was fully correct
20:52 < tsarbomba> a month is a long time
20:53 < abakedapplepie> or it just never had a battery
20:53 < tsarbomba> nod. and someone configured it in write-back.
20:53 < tsarbomba> not all controllers will even bother warning until you've already set up the array
20:53 < tsarbomba> lesson i learned on my last vmware 6.5 build
20:53 < SleePy> Welp.  Laptop battery died after 2 hours of use (shoulda last at least 4).  Guess I'm done working from home for the day :|
20:54 < tsarbomba> tfw you forget to pay the light bill on a work day
20:54 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, it was just taking forever to boot
20:54 < dragonfleas> there was one pending update
20:55 < dragonfleas> oh. my. fucking. god.
20:55 <@Code_Man65> SleePy:  Didn't take your powerbrick with you?
20:56 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, https://i.imgur.com/BBbjO95.png
20:56 < corn266> Just cut a few holes in your cardboard box shaped like a power outlet and plug it in
20:56 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: ...whoops.
20:57 < dragonfleas> i'm alt-f4'ing out of my life tonight
20:57 < corn266> see you in the next one
20:57 <+AnonymooseWork> ...dragon what because of this shit?
20:57 < JFDkthx> corn266: no, you won't
20:57 < dragonfleas> look at the image i just shared AnonymooseWork
20:57 <+AnonymooseWork> yea?
20:57 <+AnonymooseWork> so
20:57 <+AnonymooseWork> what kind of hardware is it?
20:57 < corn266> JFDkthx: is that a threat
20:57 <+AnonymooseWork> get on the horn with Dell and get the battery shipped?
20:57 < JFDkthx> corn266: no it's a quote you dongle
20:58 <+AnonymooseWork> even if the server is out of warranty dell support is pretty decent about helping you find parts
20:58 < dragonfleas> this is a poweredge 2950
20:58 < dragonfleas> no warranty
20:58 < JFDkthx> you have a warranty
20:58 < JFDkthx> it's called
20:58 < JFDkthx> ebay
20:58 < dragonfleas> oof
20:58 < dragonfleas> ok
20:58 <+AnonymooseWork> servermonkey.com
20:58 < dragonfleas> yeah we've used servermonkey.com
20:58 <+AnonymooseWork> they will have the parts
20:58 < JFDkthx> AnonymooseWork: cant call them that anymore
20:58 <+MillerBOSS> My powershell skills are non existent https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-04-23-13-58-08-oN.png
20:58 <+AnonymooseWork> lol JFDkthx
20:58 <+AnonymooseWork> seriously though
20:58 < dragonfleas> so the dead raid battery could be what was causing AD to break?
20:58 <+AnonymooseWork> servermonkey.com is a great vendor for that kinda stuff
20:59 < JFDkthx> do they have sun v440 parts
20:59 <+AnonymooseWork> dragonfleas .. a dead raid battery could cause all sorts of IO performance issues
20:59 <+AnonymooseWork> could it cause AD to break? ... maybe
20:59 <+AnonymooseWork> may not really be broken just so constrained by the IO
21:00 < JFDkthx> io stands for information-systems operator
21:00 < JFDkthx> ur ad is constrained by the io
21:00 < dragonfleas> JFDkthx, good roast
21:00 < dragonfleas> next
21:00 < JFDkthx> ur ad is borked
21:01 < dragonfleas> it's a perc 5/i integrated
21:01 < dragonfleas> is the battery replaceable?
21:02 <+AnonymooseWork> https://www.dell.com/community/PowerEdge-Hardware-General/Battery-on-Controller-PERC-5-i-Integrated/td-p/4101840
21:02 <+AnonymooseWork> yes 100% replaceable
21:02 < JFDkthx> https://www.dell.com/community/PowerEdge-Hardware-General/Battery-on-Controller-PERC-5-i-Integrated/td-p/4101840
21:02 < JFDkthx> oh
21:02 < JFDkthx> AnonymooseWork:
21:02 <+AnonymooseWork> -_-
21:02 <+AnonymooseWork> anything you can google i can google better
21:02 < JFDkthx> to be fair i was resting my two front teef on a bottle cap
21:03 < JFDkthx> and i type with my nose
21:03 < tsarbomba> so FRS failed ot start because the battery failed, replication got fucked up, and now you need to replace the battery and fix replication
21:04 < tsarbomba> this is like two steps from "nuke from orbit" territory
21:04 < tsarbomba> out of curiosity, how old is this "new" server
21:04 < dragonfleas> https://www.amazon.com/Dell-NU209-Battery-Kit-Perc/dp/B004GUVOU0 will this work
21:04 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, it's a poweredge 1950
21:04 < tsarbomba> jeeeeesus
21:04 < dragonfleas> we're non-profit
21:04 < tsarbomba> i literally threw out a 1950 about a month ago
21:04 < dragonfleas> with no money
21:04 < JFDkthx> tsarbomba: there is someone in my section that as a full time job he administers a 10 person lab. everytime he needs to upgrade a windows server. he rebuilds the entire domain.
21:05 < JFDkthx> not as a choice, but because he doesnt know how to do it correctly.
21:05 < tsarbomba> jfdkthx that's one way to maintain best practices
21:05 < tsarbomba> lol
21:05 < dragonfleas> we spent like 70 thousand dollars on new servers for new dedicated EHR system
21:05 < tsarbomba> that's pretty brutal
21:05 < JFDkthx> he's actually retarded.
21:06 < JFDkthx> i wrote him out a plan on how to upgrade from 2k8 to 12r2, nope instead he removed all his dc's installed oem 12r2 and started from there.
21:06 < JFDkthx> 3 dcs for 10 users
21:06 < JFDkthx> btw
21:06 < dragonfleas> wow
21:07 < dragonfleas> i'm pretty retarded, but i'm not that retarded thank god
21:07 < dragonfleas> i'm 2 steps from that retarded though
21:07 < gnupluslinux> JFDkthx, ... fucking what
21:07 < JFDkthx> 1 1/2
21:07 < dragonfleas> k
21:07 < ihre> imo updating a lab makes less sense than rebuilding it, although for the wrong reason in that case :p
21:08 < JFDkthx> ihre: lab is a term used loosely. the lab is connected to a larger guvmint lab
21:08 < ihre> so not a scratchpad-type-lab?
21:08 < JFDkthx> correcto
21:08 < JFDkthx> production
21:09 < JFDkthx> lab
21:09 < JFDkthx> if you will
21:10 < JFDkthx> aight i put in my 6 hours for the day
21:10 < JFDkthx> later turds
21:10 < dragonfleas> see ya asshole
21:10 < JFDkthx> pot calling the kettle ugly
21:10 < dragonfleas> true <3
21:11 < ThatOneRoadie> fuck this housing market
21:11 < gnupluslinux> ThatOneRoadie, amen
21:11 < ThatOneRoadie> house listed for 300k
21:11 < ThatOneRoadie> It might appraise for 310k
21:11 < ThatOneRoadie> I put in an offer for 316k
21:11 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, should i take this new DC offline until the battery arrives?
21:11 < ThatOneRoadie> got a call back from the listing agent today
21:12 < ThatOneRoadie> they got 13 offers over 3 days
21:12 < F34RInc> ThatOneRoadie, someone bought it for 350K cash
21:12 < ThatOneRoadie> and my offer "isn't even in the running"
21:12 < ThatOneRoadie> yep
21:12 < ThatOneRoadie> Someone form san francisco who just sold a 700k property probably
21:12 < ThatOneRoadie> from*
21:12 < madvillain> ThatOneRoadie: lol I wish I could find a decent place for $300k
21:12 < dragonfleas> lmao
21:12 < gnupluslinux> ThatOneRoadie, https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Irvine-CA/house,condo,apartment_duplex,land,townhouse_type/52650_rid/1-_beds/1.5-_baths/globalrelevanceex_sort/33.77986,-117.626668,33.594174,-117.921925_rect/11_zm/ tell me you'd pay asking price for any of those
21:12 < dragonfleas> you can get 5 bedroom houses in oklahoma for 300k
21:12 < ThatOneRoadie> this is just depressing now
21:12 < tsarbomba> dragonfleas gets a new t-shirt https://i.imgur.com/ZmJmMZR.png
21:12 < ThatOneRoadie> yeah but I can't work from oklahoma
21:13 < gnupluslinux> cause there's people that will pay 1.5x in cash and fuck you over
21:13 < ThatOneRoadie> als
21:13 < ThatOneRoadie> also*
21:13 < ThatOneRoadie> who the fuck would willingly live in oklahoma
21:13  * Code_Man65 raises hand
21:13 < dragonfleas> ThatOneRoadie, someone who can't get a corp move out of oklahoma
21:13 < dragonfleas> i would love to move out
21:13 < dragonfleas> i hate this place
21:13 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, i need to buy that shirt
21:13 < ThatOneRoadie> I see lots of foreclosures and short sales in Irvine
21:13 < tsarbomba> dragonfleas, shouldn't be a need to do that. but that might only be the initial cause of any issue. FRS probably still needs investigating
21:13 < tsarbomba> at the very least eliminate that warning
21:14 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, is there a way to fix FRS after it's broken??
21:14 < tsarbomba> there should be a way to fix the warning you are getting
21:15 < dragonfleas> i feel that it would be better to remove from domain, nuke server, replace battery, reinstall windows, re-deploy
21:16 < tsarbomba> what does dcdiag say from dc1 vs. dc3
21:17 < tsarbomba> check frsdiag on dc1 too
21:17 < dragonfleas> dsdiag on dc1 is perfect
21:17 < dragonfleas> passes all tests
21:17 < dragonfleas> seems like the issue is on DC3
21:17 < ThatOneRoadie> maybe it's time for me to start writing love letters to houses
21:17 < ThatOneRoadie> First time homebuyer, looking to start a family, please please please, etc
21:18 < ThatOneRoadie> and attach them to offers
21:19 < AnimalFarmPig> ThatOneRoadie: I heard that people actually do that in some areas
21:19 < AnimalFarmPig> ex. north Dallas & suburbs
21:19 < tsarbomba> frsdiag on dc1?
21:20 < ThatOneRoadie> Someone I work with did it here in Denver to try to get a house closed on
21:20 < tsarbomba> s/home/ho-
21:20 <+layer-eight> ThatOneRoadie meant: "First time ho-buyer, looking to start a family, please please please, etc"
21:20 < AnimalFarmPig> iirc, my sister got letters like that with offers when she sold a year or so ago, and wrote a letter like that for her new house
21:20 < ThatOneRoadie> he's under contract so maybe it works
21:21 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, yes the one on DC1 returns all successes
21:21 < dragonfleas> dc1 is 2003r2 so dcdiag is thinner than dcdiag on 2012r2
21:21 <+AnonymooseWork> letters?
21:21 <+AnonymooseWork> whut the fuck
21:21 <+AnonymooseWork> the only things i include in offers are
21:21 <+AnonymooseWork> 1. price
21:21 <+AnonymooseWork> 2. conditions
21:22 < ThatOneRoadie> I'm even throwing a 5k appraisal waiver in
21:22 < AnimalFarmPig> I want to stop renting, but I think it may actually be easier to just move to Hungary where we already own a house than to try to buy one in Dallas
21:22 <+AnonymooseWork> but then you'd be living in hungary?
21:22 < ThatOneRoadie> I'll pay 5k over whatever the house appraises for
21:22 < ThatOneRoadie> nope
21:22 < ThatOneRoadie> still nothing
21:23 < vavkamil> hungary is nice
21:23 < dragonfleas> ok boss just ordered battery for us
21:23 < dragonfleas> woo
21:23 < AnimalFarmPig> Hungary is pretty sweet, but Hungarian salaries, not so much. Still, probably easier to find 100% remote gig with decent salary than to get a good deal on a house in Dallas
21:23 <+AnonymooseWork> that was easy?
21:23 < AnimalFarmPig> I had a job offer there last year. Senior Software Engineer. A bit under $2k/mo after tax :(
21:23 < vavkamil> wow mozilla firefox is pretty shitty about CSP
21:24 < AnimalFarmPig> 100% remote gig with decent pay not easy, but seriously easier than getting a decent deal on a house here
21:24 < tsarbomba> https://i.imgur.com/kjyQMVr.jpg
21:24 < grumplestiltzkin> AnimalFarmPig: You will have to move out farther to not get as raped by the silly increase in property value.  Have you looked at roanoke?
21:25 < tsarbomba> frsdiag returned NO errors on dc1?
21:25 < tsarbomba> fuck, maybe it's dc3's fault. run it there.
21:25 < ThatOneRoadie> Dude, i'd take 100% remote with 1 day of travel a month
21:25 <+AnonymooseWork> wait a sec
21:25 < ThatOneRoadie> fuck, I'd take my current job if I could do 4 days a week remote and 1 day from a hospital
21:25 <+AnonymooseWork> did you go from Exchange 2003 straight to 2012 R2?
21:25 < ThatOneRoadie> I'd live out in the boonies and buy a goddamn helicopter
21:25 < vavkamil> do you like working from home?
21:25 < AnimalFarmPig> grumplestiltzkin: I'm not sure if I want that kind of commute. Also, I think the whole market is over-valued right now and is gonna correct. Don't want to be underwater.
21:25 < ThatOneRoadie> and just helo into each hospital on my work from hospital days
21:26 <+AnonymooseWork> vavkamil i enjoy it periodically.  I did it daily for 3 years and it wasn't my cuppa tea
21:26 < F34RInc> vavkamil, Im 100% remote but the company sucks
21:26 <+AnonymooseWork> vavkamil - being 100% remote and in a bad mental health state was bad for me
21:26 < vavkamil> same as me
21:26 < vavkamil> was living alone and it was shit
21:26 <+AnonymooseWork> yeah
21:26 <+AnonymooseWork> i'm married
21:26 < AnimalFarmPig> grumplestiltzkin: even my kind of 'hood part of south Irving is getting expensive. House next door went for something like $250k earlier this year
21:26 <+AnonymooseWork> but homelife was rough for a while
21:26 <+AnonymooseWork> lost my son
21:26 <+AnonymooseWork> being around home just reminded me of him
21:26 <+AnonymooseWork> etc.
21:26 < ThatOneRoadie> Biggest thing I can recommend to mental sanity is having an office at home
21:26 < vavkamil> thats bad, interaction with other people is important
21:26 <+AnonymooseWork> I'm in a much better place now
21:27 <+AnonymooseWork> ThatOneRoadie yeah! that is important
21:27 <+AnonymooseWork> i had that
21:27 < ThatOneRoadie> The office is where you work, end of story. In the office = at the office.
21:27 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, separate work and leisure space is important
21:27 <+AnonymooseWork> but compounding factors for me that made it bad
21:27 < ThatOneRoadie> yeah
21:27 < ThatOneRoadie> I can understand that for sure
21:27 < Hatter> what happened to him
21:27 <+AnonymooseWork> ?
21:28 <+AnonymooseWork> my son
21:28 < AnimalFarmPig> I worked from home for a couple years in Nashville, had a separate office in our apartment. Everything was great. Tried to work from home for a few months last year without a separate office, not so great.
21:28 <+AnonymooseWork> ?
21:28 < Hatter> yes
21:28 <+AnonymooseWork> He died from complications of pneumonia and respiratory distress
21:28 < grumplestiltzkin> separate workspace where only work happens is kind of a big deal with work from home
21:28 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> AnonymooseWork, Dude ... Just got back and read that. As a dad myselft ... just wow man.
21:29 < AnimalFarmPig> ^ :(
21:29 <+AnonymooseWork> he was almost 3
21:29 < vavkamil> is this a best approach? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/33495194/mysql-insert-on-duplicate-update-for-non-primary-key
21:29 <+AnonymooseWork> that was...  2 years ago?
21:29 < ThatOneRoadie> Yeah, I don't think anyone here is going to fault you for wanting to escape that. Sorry for your loss man
21:29 <+AnonymooseWork> anyway, it still hurts at times of course i'm not gonna lie and say "i'm over it" because you don't get over it
21:29 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> AnonymooseWork, ... Right in the feels man. My kiddo is 3 right now ...
21:29 < grumplestiltzkin> AnimalFarmPig: Yeha, I'm with you there. We've been contemplating cashing out on the house  -but depending on who you talk to, this might be the new normal. I can see it happening too, with how much growth there has been lately
21:30 <+AnonymooseWork> SysAdminGoneCraZ yeah, we just had our second
21:30 <+AnonymooseWork> he's.. 7 weeks
21:30 < grumplestiltzkin> If it is the 'new norm', moving to the hill country will get accelerated a bit
21:30 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> AnonymooseWork, Congrats man!
21:30 < vavkamil> my office is literally table next to my bed
21:31 < ThatOneRoadie> nope nopity nopenope
21:31 < AnimalFarmPig> grumplestiltzkin: yeah, it could be the new normal, but that's also what folks thought ten years ago. Move to hill country sounds nice.
21:31 < ThatOneRoadie> Work and Life don't get to mix
21:31 < ThatOneRoadie> especially where I work at hospitals. If I start letting work and life mix, I find myself watching my phone during night maintenances when I'm not on call
21:31 < AnimalFarmPig> vavkamil: I would just try to insert and catch the error if it's already existing
21:31 < ThatOneRoadie> nope nope nope
21:32 < vavkamil> AnimalFarmPig, I need to somehow group duplicate content security reports
21:32 < AnimalFarmPig> vavkamil: or update and check the row count if you're sure there won't be problems with concurrency
21:32 <+AnonymooseWork> SysAdminGoneCraZ thx
21:32 <+AnonymooseWork> lots of PTSD with the noob
21:32 <+AnonymooseWork> but things are going well
21:33 < ThatOneRoadie> >Refers to newborn as noob
21:33 < ThatOneRoadie> yeah you're gonna do fine
21:33 < ThatOneRoadie> :)
21:33 <+AnonymooseWork> lol
21:33 < AnimalFarmPig> vavkamil: I must have missed the context. I thought you were trying to upsert in MySQL
21:33 <+AnonymooseWork> its a completely different experience
21:33 <+AnonymooseWork> #1 had a very trauamatic birth and lots of stress
21:33 < vavkamil> AnimalFarmPig, I wan
21:33 <+AnonymooseWork> #2 is pretty chill
21:35 < vavkamil> AnimalFarmPig, I need to create row with counter of duplicates, but row can be duplicate based on three columns
21:37 < AnimalFarmPig> vavkamil: can you try to insert, and if it fails due to unique constraint on 3 columns, increment the duplicate counter? Or, alternatively, don't put the unique constraint on the 3 columns and allow the duplicates. Then, to get a count SELECT col1, col2, col3, COUNT(*) FROM some_table GROUP BY col1,col2,col3
21:38 < ThatOneRoadie> Exellent example of hospital shit that happens all the goddamn time
21:39 < vavkamil> AnimalFarmPig, I don't want to use unique, GROUP BY or DISTINCT
21:39 < ThatOneRoadie> Team manager: "Hey, we have $vendor product doing an upgrade that requires a client upgrade to be pushed out"
21:39 < ThatOneRoadie> SA Team: "Cool, we can write an application into SCCM and push out the update. When is the vendor doing the upgrade?"
21:39 < ThatOneRoadie> TM: "Today in 2 hours"
21:39 < ThatOneRoadie> "..................."
21:39 < AnimalFarmPig> vavkamil: Oh, you can't create a unique index/constraint on the table?
21:40 < AnimalFarmPig> then the UPDATE, check row count, insert if it's 0 approach is better, but you'll have to be careful with concurrency
21:41 < ThatOneRoadie> SA: "And how long, exactly, has this update been planned for?" "Oh, about a month." "And, at any point in that month, did you think maybe it might be a good idea to go through our project management system, or maybe open a ticket, or even give us a heads-up informally in person?"
21:41 < ThatOneRoadie> Apparently not
21:41 < vavkamil> AnimalFarmPig, column A is "TEXT" (report), column B is Browser and column C is Operating System.
21:41 < AnimalFarmPig> i.e. make sure you don't try to insert/update the same combo of keys at the same time
21:42 < vavkamil> AnimalFarmPig, thank you, I will make some tests and move my questions to #sql
21:42 < AnimalFarmPig> vavkamil: to create a compound unique constraint that includes the TEXT column, compute the md5 of the text at insert time and use that in your constraint
21:42 < vavkamil> that is clever
21:42 < AnimalFarmPig> (or use new virtual/generated columns)
21:42 < AnimalFarmPig> I think they're in 5.6 or 5.7
21:43 < AnimalFarmPig> the guys in #sql are way more clever than me, I'm sure you'll get great advice there
21:44 < vavkamil> thank you anyway, my english is not so great, to I need to create some UML or something
21:45 < arlion[h]> God, I love google.
21:45 < abakedapplepie> anyone know where i can buy individual ceiling tiles
21:45 < abakedapplepie> i only need 3
21:45 < abakedapplepie> :|
21:46 <+AnonymooseWork> ...
21:46 < abakedapplepie> and not a whole case
21:46 <+AnonymooseWork> try the manufacturer direct?
21:46 <+AnonymooseWork> or kijiji?
21:46 <+AnonymooseWork> craigs list?
21:46 < arlion[h]> like the ones for a false roof?
21:46 < abakedapplepie> i meant at like a b&m
21:46 < abakedapplepie> drop ceiling yes arlion
21:46 <+AnonymooseWork> abakedapplepie a single case is not that expensive
21:46 < abakedapplepie> home depot only carries packs of 16
21:46 <+AnonymooseWork> plus you'll want a few extra incase they get damaged
21:46 < abakedapplepie> yeah but what am i gonna do with 13 ceiling tiles
21:46 <+AnonymooseWork> sell them on craigslist
21:46 < abakedapplepie> i dont have anywhere to put them lol
21:46 <+AnonymooseWork> somebody is always looking for extras
21:46 < jbroome> habitat for humanity has a re-use store where they resell stuff that they pulled out of houses before they're demo'd.
21:46 <+AnonymooseWork> and sure you do
21:46 < arlion[h]> is it coming out of your paycheck?
21:47 < mkillebrew> put them in the ceiling
21:47 <+AnonymooseWork> put them... in the ceiling
21:47 < mkillebrew> with their friends
21:47 < abakedapplepie> thats not a bad idea
21:47 < abakedapplepie> actually
21:47 <+AnonymooseWork> redundant array of ceiling tiles
21:47 < mkillebrew> twit
21:47 < jbroome> double up the ceiling tiles to really cut down on noise
21:47 < abakedapplepie> lol
21:47 < arlion[h]> raid 1 celing tiles
21:47 < abakedapplepie> it is the server room
21:47 < abakedapplepie> so itis noisy
21:47 < arlion[h]> Do you have those black foam noise dampeners on the wall?
21:48 < abakedapplepie> idiots that designed our new office put hvac feed and return in the server room, which has its own hvac unit inside
21:48 < abakedapplepie> stupid asses
21:48 < abakedapplepie> im taking the vents down and putting up tiles
21:49 < arlion[h]> You should leave a spooky message behind.
21:49 < mkillebrew> yeah
21:49 <+AnonymooseWork> abakedapplepie make it there problem
21:49 <+AnonymooseWork> also
21:49 < mkillebrew> like "I start my arrays at 1"
21:49 <+AnonymooseWork> ask facilities if they have extra tiles?
21:49 < arlion[h]> lol
21:49 <+AnonymooseWork> usually in buildings like that extra tiles are needed
21:49 <+AnonymooseWork> they get wet
21:49 <+AnonymooseWork> they get damaged
21:49 <+AnonymooseWork> etc.
21:50 < abakedapplepie> that idiot is the guy who put in the office
21:50 < abakedapplepie> and hes an idiot
21:50 < abakedapplepie> and i dont want to talk to him
21:50 < abakedapplepie> plus i already know the answer
21:50 < abakedapplepie> the rest of the building has 4x2s and we have 2x2s
21:50 <+AnonymooseWork> ...
21:50 <+AnonymooseWork> ok
21:50 <+AnonymooseWork> easy fix?
21:50 < abakedapplepie> lol
21:50 < abakedapplepie> i suppose
21:50 <+AnonymooseWork> whats 4 / 2 ?
21:50 < arlion[h]> Yeah, but by giving him the extra tiles you might get a favour in the future
21:50 < abakedapplepie> but then id have to vacuum
21:50 <+AnonymooseWork> lol
21:51 < abakedapplepie> arlion: im not doing any favors for that asshole, hes useless
21:51 < mkillebrew> you share something in common then
21:51 < arlion[h]> buutt, he could do you a favor in the future.
21:51 < abakedapplepie> id rather fix shit myself than talking to him
21:51 < abakedapplepie> arlion i dont even deal with him i just go over his head to the building owner when i have questions or want to do something
21:51 < abakedapplepie> (he loves that)
21:51 < arlion[h]> oh does he.
21:52 < arlion[h]> Just kick to his ego
21:52 < abakedapplepie> whats funny is his name is on the front of the building
21:52 < abakedapplepie> in the masonry
21:52 < abakedapplepie> but he mismanaged it into the ground and the bank foreclosed
21:52 < abakedapplepie> the new owner kept him on as facilities for some ungodly reason
21:53 < arlion[h]> Alright, time to fix the rest of my car up.
21:53 < arlion[h]> Trying to fix the hicas system, I contaiminated the master brake resviour
21:54 < arlion[h]> So, fuck me.
21:54 < abakedapplepie> hicas?
21:54 < abakedapplepie> oh, huh, interesting
21:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> ever heard of windows failing to resolve DNS even with it manually configued
21:55 < abakedapplepie> hicas sounds like something i just dont ever want to deal with, holy shit
21:55 < arlion[h]> Nissan had a feature in there older model vehicles that allowed the rear wheels to turn with the front wheels
21:55 < McDonaldsWiFi> I've tried like 4 different DNS, none of them work -.-
21:55 < arlion[h]> McDonaldsWiFi: standard issue, DNS.
21:55 < McDonaldsWiFi> fml
21:55 < abakedapplepie> so it uses break fluid to steer the rear wheels?
21:55 < arlion[h]> ATF
21:56 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> McDonaldsWiFi, Did you ipconfig /flushdns?
21:56 < arlion[h]> Instead of power steering, it uses Automatic Transmission Fluid.
21:56 < McDonaldsWiFi> SysAdminGoneCraZ: yes and I deleted his host
21:56 < abakedapplepie> what happened to your brake resevoir then lol
21:56 < McDonaldsWiFi> it just refuses to resolve anything
21:56 < McDonaldsWiFi> its nuts
21:56 < F34RInc> McDonaldsWiFi, are you able to query the name server directly, nslookup address server
21:56 < McDonaldsWiFi> nope
21:56 < arlion[h]> I traced the lines and confused it with my brake lines.
21:56 < McDonaldsWiFi> nslookup fails too, even with 8.8.8.8 set -.-
21:56 < abakedapplepie> oooo
21:56 < McDonaldsWiFi> Server: Unknown
21:56 < McDonaldsWiFi> 8.8.8.8, shits fooked
21:56 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> McDonaldsWiFi, That's is odd.
21:57 < arlion[h]> abakedapplepie: noob error, should have consulted manual first.
21:57 < F34RInc> McDonaldsWiFi, do you NAT your DNS back to a set server
21:57 < abakedapplepie> arlion: at least youre not bending new lines lol
21:57 < McDonaldsWiFi> Nah, this is a dude in the field
21:57 < arlion[h]> I printed out the service manual, all 2k pages of it.
21:57 < arlion[h]> abakedapplepie: true.
21:57 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> McDonaldsWiFi, How id he connected? VPN?
21:57 < corn266> McDonaldsWiFi: can he ping 8.8.8.8
21:57 < McDonaldsWiFi> no VPn :(
21:57 < McDonaldsWiFi> yes he can ping it
21:57 < McDonaldsWiFi> but can't resolve google.com lol
21:57 < abakedapplepie> McDonaldsWiFi: sounds like user error
21:57 < McDonaldsWiFi> even if 8.8.8.8 is his DNS
21:58 < abakedapplepie> is he using mcdonalds wifi?
21:58 < McDonaldsWiFi> or quad9, or quad1
21:58 < F34RInc> McDonaldsWiFi, is this Win 10
21:58 < McDonaldsWiFi> abakedapplepie: huehue
21:58 < McDonaldsWiFi> Windows 7
21:58 < F34RInc> McDonaldsWiFi, ive seen where something jacks up the adapter binding order and would cause that
21:58 < McDonaldsWiFi> hmmm
21:58 < McDonaldsWiFi> I uninsstalled his wifi
21:59 < McDonaldsWiFi> should I disable the LAN just to see?
21:59 < F34RInc> yeah
21:59 < McDonaldsWiFi> lemme try that
21:59 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> McDonaldsWiFi,  run the troublshooter
21:59 < McDonaldsWiFi> SysAdminGoneCraZ: it didn't find anything
21:59 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> McDonaldsWiFi, Wait, how is he conencted to internet?
22:00 < McDonaldsWiFi> mifi
22:00 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> McDonaldsWiFi, Verizon?
22:00 < McDonaldsWiFi> same thing happens no matter what he connects to
22:00 < McDonaldsWiFi> DHCP, static
22:00 < McDonaldsWiFi> YES
22:00 < McDonaldsWiFi> do you know something
22:01 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> McDonaldsWiFi, That's what we use here.
22:01 < McDonaldsWiFi> okay disabling LAN... let's see what happens
22:02 < abakedapplepie> has this person worked remote  before
22:02 < abakedapplepie> without issue
22:02 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> McDonaldsWiFi, It could be issues with the Mifi or the service.
22:03 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> McDonaldsWiFi, Only way to test is to have him connect to a known good working AP and test.
22:03 < AnimalFarmPig> <arlion[h]> Nissan had a feature in there older model vehicles that allowed the rear wheels to turn with the front wheels   <---- common in the early 90's. I think it was called Super HICAS or some such? Toyota and Mitsubishi also had it
22:03 < AnimalFarmPig> iirc, the Mitsubishi one would turn the rear wheels opposite the front ones at low speed for tighter turning radius and in the same direction at high speeds for extra stability
22:03 < Hunterkll> Mitsubishi 3000GT in '92 had it
22:04 < Hunterkll> with computer controlled supsension and everything
22:04 < AnimalFarmPig> Galant VR4 had it
22:04 < Hunterkll> or was it '94? either way. had the mitsubishi 6G72 engine
22:04 < AnimalFarmPig> iirc, Mazda had some kind of passive system
22:05 < AnimalFarmPig> maybe it just toed out the rear on suspension compression... my Saab does that
22:06 < AnimalFarmPig> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HICAS
22:06 < technonerd> It's nice out, I can't wait to drive my Z home
22:06 < technonerd> Almost 70
22:06  * m4221 tases technonerd 
22:07 < m4221> technonerd: I seize that z in the name of the proletariat
22:07 < sadbox> "Unlike many other four wheel steering systems, HICAS and Super HICAS are fitted to improve handling rather than just as a parking aid."
22:07 < sadbox> ^^^ what
22:07 < Hunterkll> wow
22:07 < Hunterkll> fuckin idiots in new york
22:07 < Hunterkll> damn
22:08 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> McDonaldsWiFi, Anything?
22:08 < AnimalFarmPig> Honda Prelude also had rear wheel steer. Don't remember the name of the generation. The old boxy, slow ones
22:08 < Hunterkll> hospital lost my insurance
22:08 < rhqq>  Hunterkll hiya, hows your leg
22:08 < sadbox> coming from offroad-vehicles land, it's really weird for anyone to note that some 4wd systems can disable the front wheels
22:08 < sadbox> cause that's like very manually engaged 4wd drive system ever
22:08 < sadbox> every**
22:08 < AnimalFarmPig> third gen prelude
22:08 < Hunterkll> rhqq, perfectly fine now
22:08 < arlion[h]> sadbox: there are also vehicles that have on demand 4wd
22:08 < sadbox> yeah
22:09 < sadbox> those in general aren't "locked" in the center diff/tcase
22:09 < arlion[h]> sadbox: as in, the ECU detects slip and starts transfering power to the front diff
22:09 < arlion[h]> sadbox: yep.
22:09 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Hunterkll, For some reason I picture you have one strong leg and one scrawny leg from lack of use.
22:09 < Hunterkll> nah
22:10 < Hunterkll> only off it for 2 months
22:10 < arlion[h]> Hunterkll: what happened?
22:10 < Hunterkll> .... i broke it in january?
22:10 < Hunterkll> ya'll way behind on this shit
22:10 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Hunterkll, Does it feel weird? Like, do you still baby it?
22:10 < Hunterkll> no
22:10 < sadbox> arlion[h]: the car version of those are p wacky w/ the magical computer-controled clutches
22:10 < sadbox> vs. like... just plain old differentials in errything else
22:10 < Hunterkll> bit of stiffness in some regards due to a tendon needing some workout but i'm taking up some running and shit
22:10 < Hunterkll> eh
22:11 < Hunterkll> i put like 100+ miles on it a week and a half ago
22:11 < arlion[h]> Hunterkll: good for you.
22:11 < Hunterkll> and had two more anime conventions before that
22:11 < Hunterkll> simple break
22:11 < Hunterkll> break it at an anime convention, get told i can go weight bearing again, go full bored
22:11 < Hunterkll> bore
22:11 < Hunterkll> lol
22:11 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Nice
22:11 < arlion[h]> sadbox: The nissan skylines are an example of that.
22:12 < AnimalFarmPig> some AWD systems go full retard and use open diffs all around, then use sensors and brakes to slow/stop wheels that are determined to be slipping
22:13 < AnimalFarmPig> Ford even uses such a system on the Focus ST to prevent torque steer. So, the more you floor it, the more you wear the front brakes! Awesome!
22:13 < abakedapplepie> ugh. ford awd. kinda sucks.
22:13 < abakedapplepie> i had my awd flip out my ABS once, scared the hell out of me and my brakes became useless
22:13 < sadbox> AnimalFarmPig: FWIW brakes are more replaceable / serviceable  than the clutches
22:13 < abakedapplepie> it detected a minutia of slip
22:13 < sadbox> AnimalFarmPig: some offroad things do that
22:14 < arlion[h]> Subaru's as well
22:14 < AnimalFarmPig> it was either BMW or Merc that pioneered the open diffs all around AWD in the late 90's on SUV's, iirc
22:14 < sadbox> way more durable / simple
22:14 < sadbox> merc IIRC
22:14 < sadbox> I think that's what the g-wagon does
22:14 < abakedapplepie> i hear the new ford awd platform is better tho, the one on the rs
22:14 < AnimalFarmPig> sadbox: re: clutches, sure, but typically the clutches used for AWD / torque vectoring are in the diff and computer controlled, right? AFAIK, they're not really a wear item, right?
22:14 < sadbox> abakedapplepie: too bad they stopped making that car
22:14 < abakedapplepie> iso rs
22:15 < abakedapplepie> wat they did?
22:15 < sadbox> abakedapplepie: yep, as of last month
22:15 < sadbox> they only made like 1k this year
22:15 < abakedapplepie> no :(
22:15 < abakedapplepie> thats sad
22:15 < abakedapplepie> i want one
22:15 < sadbox> it is
22:15 < sadbox> I was gonna buy one
22:15 < AnimalFarmPig> there were a bunch of RS's sitting on the lot when I bought my Fiesta ST a couple weeks ago
22:15 < sadbox> AnimalFarmPig: they are indeed computer controlled and stuff, clutches are fundamentally a wear item tho
22:16 < AnimalFarmPig> "a bunch" like 5 or 6 at random ford dealer in Fort Worth, TX
22:16 < sadbox> If you push an RS too hard it will just leave them open
22:16 < AnimalFarmPig> interesting
22:17 < scwizard> holy shit i actually got his hacky vagrant shit working
22:17 < scwizard> i'm still pretty suprised
22:17 < sadbox> But for a light ass car, sure, clutches prolly work better than brakes
22:17 < sadbox> and aren't likely to get super fucked in the lifetime of a lil' car like that
22:18 < AnimalFarmPig> ^
22:18 < scwizard> man those 165 lines of ruby took forever tho
22:18 < vavkamil> my sql is working too, cheers
22:18 < AnimalFarmPig> I don't understand why viscous coupling and torsen style diffs went out of fashion in favor of computer controlled clutches. What advantages do they provide?
22:18 < AnimalFarmPig> vavkamil: awesome
22:19 < abakedapplepie> AnimalFarmPig: cost and complexity
22:19 < sadbox> computers got better I'm guessing, and clutches are relatively simple, plus you can adjust them on the flu
22:19 < sadbox> fly**
22:19 < vavkamil> I don't like cars
22:19 < AnimalFarmPig> abakedapplepie: seems crazy that it's cheaper than mechanical systems, but if it is cheaper and simpler, then I guess it makes sense
22:19 < scwizard> successful Mondays all around!
22:20 < sadbox> AnimalFarmPig: I'd bet more on the ability to adjust it on the fly
22:20 < vavkamil> scwizard, not so successful as I'm still working at 10pm
22:20 < grumplestiltzkin> AnimalFarmPig: if thats a real trend, man - if youve ever seen how an auto vs standard transmisison work, theres a lot of arguement to be made for standards, as far as simplicity and labor to repair/rebuild
22:21 < AnimalFarmPig> vavkamil: did you say you're from Hungary?
22:21 < vavkamil> AnimalFarmPig, czechia, but I know hungary pretty well
22:22 < AnimalFarmPig> grumplestiltzkin: yeah, I guess so. Just surprising sometimes how the things that seem more complex are actually better.
22:22 < AnimalFarmPig> vavkamil: ahhh... okay. Neat. At a previous job I had a bunch of coworkers in Prague, and I kept trying to get my boss to send me over to visit.
22:23 < grumplestiltzkin> well, the coupling itself might be more complicated, being computer controlled, but the transmission itself should be much simpler.   computers control all autos now anyway -   a viscous coupling also by the way oit works is less mechanically efficient than a direct coupling - even though now torque converters are way better than years ago
22:24 < m4221> grumplestiltzkin: try torque converters from the 70s
22:24 < grumplestiltzkin> s/torque converters/slushboxes
22:24 <+layer-eight> m4221 meant: "grumplestiltzkin: try slushboxes from the 70s"
22:25 < grumplestiltzkin> they do have a distinct advantage, torque converters - on a forced induction, you don't lose any boost when shifting
22:25 < m4221> grumplestiltzkin: I loved early 90s dodges where the overdrive clutch never disengaged
22:26 < grumplestiltzkin> like - in a turbodrag car, you might want na aut
22:26 < grumplestiltzkin> o
22:26 < grumplestiltzkin> woop, meeting time
22:29 < dragonfleas> I hate when users complain about an application being "slow"
22:29 < dragonfleas> i always just ask "Is it not functioning" "No it's just really slow" then i don't reply
22:29 < dragonfleas> lol
22:29 < dragonfleas> bye
22:30 <+MillerBOSS> Slow can mean something that is about to shit itself
22:31 < syere> nothing like a corrupted raid array to slow things down
22:31 < dragonfleas> nah it's just taking 30 seconds as opposed to 20 seconds
22:31 < dragonfleas> seriously
22:31 < dragonfleas> i see no difference, she's crazy lol
22:31 < dragonfleas> i said "i'll look into it"
22:31 <+MillerBOSS> Thats 33%
22:31 <+MillerBOSS> What is slow?
22:32 <+MillerBOSS> And where is it?
22:34 < Stoob> it's their punchclock for all employees, running 50% slow
22:34 <+MillerBOSS> 50% less pay then
22:34 < abakedapplepie> heh
22:34 <+MillerBOSS> Good job dragonfleas
22:34 < syere> users lie all the time, but you can't discount it. They are the ones that use the systems presumably daily. Unless you got charts and graphs to show I/O, memory, and CPU spikes, you might wanna take some time to do a deep dive
22:34 < abakedapplepie> loads dont mean shit to users
22:35 < abakedapplepie> its slow fix it
22:35 < abakedapplepie> story of my life
22:35 < abakedapplepie> and then when you finally call to get info on the slowness, user reports you fixed it
22:35 < abakedapplepie> #jobsdone
22:36 < Stoob> "My CPU is slow, rickybobby in helpdesk said i should get an SSD?" rootproblem: they're on myfavoritegamblingsite.in and it's loading slowly because it has a singlecore vps in asia
22:37 < abakedapplepie> lol
22:37 < abakedapplepie> that sounds oddly specific
22:38 < scwizard> man it's a huge weakness of docker-compose that it doesn't have support for variables shared across the whole set
22:38 < scwizard> without using env files or some nonsense
22:38 < scwizard> maybe i should just skip straight to kubernettes idk
22:39 < scwizard> see look, in kubernetes variables reach across a pod https://kubernetes.io/docs/tasks/inject-data-application/define-environment-variable-container/
22:40 < scwizard> and they support arrays and dictionaries rather than a flat list only
22:40 < Heresiarch> scwizard: ...declare environment variables in a given service under docker-compose?
22:40 < scwizard> Heresiarch: I want variables that reach across services
22:40 < scwizard> like you don't want to have to put your db password in twice
22:41 < scwizard> once for your db to know what to set it to, and once for your web app, to know how to access your db
22:41 < scwizard> and the db and web thing are separate services ya know
22:41 < Heresiarch> ah. Yeah, that might need an orchestration setup.
22:42 < scwizard> the only reason i'd use docker compose anyway is so that
22:42 < AnimalFarmPig> ^ this all seems like a lot of hassle
22:42 < scwizard> like i can get a proof of concept going to show my boss
22:42 < Hunterkll> yo
22:42 < Hunterkll> they made a C&H about cryptic1
22:42 < Hunterkll> https://imgur.com/qS6JRRX
22:43 < scwizard> i think i'll just
22:43 < scwizard> get it working with repeated variables everywhere
22:43 < scwizard> or repeated constants everywhere more like
22:43 < scwizard> and be like "look it works but not really gib more tiem pls"
22:44 < br14> hi end user, could you justify your need for 6TB of enterprise HDD on your local device?  "I need it to do my work, $Boss signed off on it, just do it."
22:44 < br14> All he has on his computer is Office and Chrome.
22:45 < scwizard> is he an executive?
22:45 < scwizard> it's about status ya know
22:45 < Hunterkll> much better
22:45 < Heresiarch> br14: meh. If it comes out of their budget, who cares? If it comes out of yours and they got it approved, you now have a scapegoat for why everyone else's upgrades will be stalled.
22:45 < scwizard> oh if they said "$boss" signed off on it then just double check with boss lol
22:46 < br14> Oh I have no doubt he convinced his supervisior he needs it.  But I know he doesn't, now I gotta go look like a jackass and convince his boss otherwise.
22:46 < scwizard> maybe add a snarky "should I spend $money to get everyone a similar HDD? Since $user seems to think it has a positive impact on performance"
22:46 < scwizard> and then they'll be like "$money is way too much money"
22:47 < scwizard> or they'll be like "$user has special needs" and then you have an email saying that $user has special needs
22:47 < Heresiarch> br14: why?
22:47 < br14> Yeah, his 600$ worth of HDD is 2/3 of a laptop for someone else.
22:47 < mkillebrew> usually management is special needs...
22:47 < br14> why what?
22:48 < mkillebrew> Dollar sign goes before the number.
22:48 < Heresiarch> br14: why would you have to convince his boss? But you just answered. :)
22:48 < scwizard> you don't even need to convince his boss he doesn't need it, just get it on record that he's a jerk
22:48 < ihre> scwizard: just go straight to kube, use minikube to dev locally, and then you can easily move the same manifests to 'real' k8s cluster :p
22:48 < scwizard> ihre: I want to the issue is time
22:48 < AnimalFarmPig> "Hey, $guy, you sure want me to spend $600 outfitting $dude_bro with a 6 TB hard drive when I can get him a 2 TB one for $60?"
22:48 < scwizard> my boss is saying he only has budget for me for like 2 more weeks or something
22:48 < ihre> no vagrant shit anymore :3
22:49 < scwizard> being into kubernetes takes more than 2 weeks for a dummy like me
22:49 < br14> I'm just tired of stupid fights. thanks for letting me vent.
22:49 < vavkamil> hmm my firefox on ubuntu is using android user agent, wtf
22:50 < AnimalFarmPig> scwizard: I'm curious why you're bothering with docker or kube? What's the application?
22:50 < scwizard> moving the company into 2018 lol
22:50 < AnimalFarmPig> mmmmm..... fad oriented infrastructure
22:50 < mkillebrew> So a good chance it's inappropriate for containerization
22:50 < scwizard> on a more serious note
22:51 < scwizard> gitlab builds in docker so
22:51 < scwizard> our devs should be running docker on their machines
22:53 < SexyWoodenSpoon> Hey guys, looking for some help with JAMF - specifically with our setup.
22:53 < SexyWoodenSpoon> Business rule, not tech stuff
22:53 < ihre> jamf? just another markup format? :D
22:53 < SexyWoodenSpoon> hahaha
22:53 < ihre> or markdown .. ?
22:53 < SexyWoodenSpoon> JAMF, OpenCloud, JumpCloud, whatever - I don't care. But cloud based DaaS
22:54 < ihre> so shoot
22:56 < SexyWoodenSpoon> Basically I have a company that's like a parent company. So far, in Active Directory/Open Directory/similar, I've always used the parent company as the main container and sub companies put them as groups however all these DaaS systems don't factor in an employee might belong to multiple companies or have more than one email
22:57 < ihre> lol
22:57 < Hunterkll> yo
22:57 < Hunterkll> i found a picture of the first time cryptic1 won something in his life
22:57 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/XW1s8OM.jpg
22:58 < ihre> he won his own hands covered with his own puke?
22:58 < Hunterkll> he was so excited at getting 5th place
22:58 < Hunterkll> and there actually being a prize for 5th place
22:59 < mkillebrew> https://github.com/reswitched/fusee-launcher/blob/master/report/fusee_gelee.md      neat
22:59 < AnimalFarmPig> I remember debate tournaments in high school. Poor puking kid was probably on fifteen cups of coffee and a half dozen donuts
23:01 < Hatter> debate tournaments? is that what your friends called it while you sat in a circle?
23:01 < Hatter> nevermind that wasn't a very good joke
23:02 < Hatter> strike it from the record
23:03 < AnimalFarmPig> s/debate tournaments? is that what your friends called it while you sat in a circle?/<nothing to see here>
23:03 < AnimalFarmPig> hmm... maybe I should have used quotes/escapes
23:04 < xamithan> Whats a lightweight text editor that can open huge files on winblows
23:06 < xamithan> Oh cool I can download VIM
23:10 < felda> I've been so busy today I didn't notice Net Neutrality was repealed
23:11 < felda> now Comcast rears back it's hungry, rabid donger to fuck everyone in sight
23:11 < xamithan> Thats been done for months
23:12 < felda> sure but now they are in effect
23:12 < tsarbomba> the nerdwars will well and truly start when verizon and comcast institute fast lane fees next month
23:12 < felda> New rules don't take affect until 2 months after being passed
23:16 < kronis> Afternoon folks
23:28 < rhqq> evening
23:28 < estranger> 2legit2quit
23:34 < kronis> Something going on with AWS?
23:34 < Hunterkll> alright
23:35 < Hunterkll> just booked a shitload of hotels
23:35 < Hunterkll> lol
23:35 <+MillerBOSS> kronis 👉 https://phd.aws.amazon.com/
23:41 < admiralspark> Guys, I think I'm being dumb
23:41 < admiralspark> Is it possible to export /var/log/audit/audit.log with rsyslog to a central server?
23:41 <+MillerBOSS> No you are not. They are being dumb admiralspark
23:42 < admiralspark> My *.* in the rsyslog config doesn't seem to have captured the audit log
23:42 < admiralspark> haha MillerBOSS
23:42 < admiralspark> I feel I'm missing something here, this was super easy to export everything with nxlog on the windows side ironically
23:44 < ihre> admiralspark: http://wiki.rsyslog.com/index.php/Centralizing_the_audit_log the last 2 bits
23:46 <+CheckYourSix> Hunterkll: Talk to me about tape backup. I've never used it before. I want to consider it as another option beyond my encrypted backup to B2. Does everything automatically compress 2:1? Or only certain files? And what's the easiest way to have it run?
23:47 < xe0n> tape lol
23:47 < xe0n> i remember using dlts, sdlt, reel to reel, lto1-5 lol
23:48 < xe0n> dat
23:48 < xe0n> lol
23:48 < Zrane> ltlol-5
23:49 < Zrane> I still use tape.  It's a cheap way to have an offline copy.
23:50 < Hunterkll> ^
23:50 < Hunterkll> CheckYourSix, depends on your backup software
23:50 < Hunterkll> your backup software should be managing the tapes and shit
23:50  * CheckYourSix does not have backup software
23:50 < Hunterkll> and 2:1 is the optimal "guess"
23:50 < Hunterkll> it just does it inline
23:50 < Zrane> Step 1: Buy library
23:50 < Hunterkll> you'lll probably see 1.5:1
23:50 < Zrane> Step 2: Fill library with tapes.
23:50 < Hunterkll> nope
23:50 < Hunterkll> step 1: buy backup software that understands tape libraries
23:50 < Zrane> Step 3: Point software at tapes.  Take tapes out when it tells you to.
23:51 < Hunterkll> I prefer microsoft's DPM
23:51 < Hunterkll> but arcserv, netbackup, backupexec (jk jk) etc all handle tape just fine
23:51 < Zrane> I use veeam.  Whatever works.  Except BE.  Don't use BE.
23:51 <+CheckYourSix> What software is recommended? Not looking to spend a ton on it. Don't even need huge tapes. Just want to back up important stuff. Right now, only ~100 gigs, but slowly growing.
23:51 < Zrane> CheckYourSix, What do you currently back up with?
23:51 < Hunterkll> more to the point
23:52 < Hunterkll> what's the budget look like
23:52 <+CheckYourSix> Zrane: Arq sends an encrypted copy of anything important to Backblaze B2
23:52 <+CheckYourSix> Cheap lol. As cheap as possible.
23:52 < Hunterkll> work or home
23:52 <+CheckYourSix> Home
23:52 < Hunterkll> EBAY!
23:52 <+CheckYourSix> Well yeah, but I need to know *what* to get on eBay
23:52 < Zrane> Doesn't bacula have tape support?
23:52 < Hunterkll> LTO-4 drive and some way to hook it up
23:53 < Hunterkll> Zrane, i never got it to work
23:53 < Hunterkll> i really need to
23:53 < Hunterkll> I have an LTO-5 drive in my desktop
23:53 < Hunterkll> lol
23:53 < Zrane> lol, wtf.
23:53 < Hunterkll> i think i'm just gonna install DPM tho
23:53 <+CheckYourSix> Right now, I have FreeNAS storing all of my data
23:53 < SynMonger> backup exec is what we use for tape backup
23:53 < Hunterkll> fuck off and die
23:53 < SynMonger> no
23:53 < Zrane> Windows server has some native tape support, at least in like 03 or something.
23:53 < Hunterkll> let the grownups talk
23:53 < Hunterkll> Zrane, long, long, long gone
23:53 < Hunterkll> lol
23:53 < Zrane> lol
23:53 < Hunterkll> that was the ancient NT4 backup client that limped along for a while
23:53 < Zrane> Yeah, that's the one.
23:54 < Hunterkll> Zrane, https://i.imgur.com/2BM29pl.jpg
23:54 < Hunterkll> what else do you use to back up an $8000 desktop but tape?
23:54 < Nightcinder> rip
23:54 < Nightcinder> https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/04/the-unpatchable-exploit-that-makes-every-current-nintendo-switch-hackable/
23:54 < Zrane> If using freenas, could in theory just use the *nix native tape support to copy files over.
23:54 < admiralspark> ihre: damnit. Thanks
23:54 < Hunterkll> Nightcinder, finally
23:54 < Nightcinder> i mean it was only a matter of time
23:54 < Zrane> Hunterkll, kek
23:55 < Hunterkll> Zrane, needed LTO-5 to handle my 2TB 960 Pro NVMe M.2 SSD
23:55 < xe0n> i remember forever ago i had this horrible dell library that would cause issues every 2nd week lol
23:55 < SynMonger> meh, there's already a new hardware revision of switch shipping that fixed that
23:55 < xe0n> dont miss it
23:55 < Hunterkll> and my 18 core i9-7980XE is fast enough to keep it up
23:55 < Hunterkll> lol
23:55 < Hunterkll> SynMonger, yea but i got mine
23:55 < Hunterkll> so
23:55 < Hunterkll> :D
23:55 < Zrane> Hunterkll, Upgrade to LTO-7.
23:55 < SynMonger> getcher unpatchable switch while it's hot
23:56 < Nightcinder> By sending a bad "length" argument to an improperly coded USB control procedure at the right point, the user can force the system to "request up to 65,535 bytes per control request." That data easily overflows a crucial direct memory access (DMA) buffer in the bootROM, in turn allowing data to be copied into the protected application stack and giving the attacker the ability to run arbitrary code.
23:56 < Nightcinder> gg
23:56 < Hunterkll> CheckYourSix, you'll need a server or VM of some kind to run the software on, some way to hook up the drive, etc
23:56 < Hunterkll> I have a SAS HBA in my desktop for my tape drive
23:56 < Hunterkll> lol
23:56 < alazare619> http://www.missilebases.com/communications-bunker-concordia-ks
23:56 < Zrane> Hunterkll, He could just tar the files to a tape directly on his freenas box.
23:56 <+CheckYourSix> Hunterkll: Probably a Windows Server VM to run the software. Mount the network share to it.
23:56 < alazare619> at only 600k thats a potential data center turnkey
23:56 < Hunterkll> CheckYourSix, and it talks to the hardware how?
23:56 <+CheckYourSix> Blah, SAS HBA
23:56 <+CheckYourSix> Passthru SAS HBA. $$$
23:57 < Hunterkll> if $50 is expensive to you i guess
23:57 < Hunterkll> i just use a reflashed dell H310 from ebay
23:57 < Hunterkll> got like 3 of them here
23:57 < Hunterkll> and since i don't have the right cables i'm using a SAS expander as a cable adapter
23:57 <+CheckYourSix> I'll look. Just an option I'm exploring
23:57 < Hunterkll> lmao
23:57 <+CheckYourSix> Rofl
23:58 < Hunterkll> I have one of those X1 to X16 pcie kits like the miners use, i'm just using the X16 part to power the card since the expanders don't actually need PCIe except for the power
23:58 < Zrane> Hunterkll, I think you want the H810 for external.
23:58 < dragonfleas> cryptic1 can i get a ban for breaking a month ago
23:58 < dragonfleas> breaking ad
23:58 < Hunterkll> Zrane, or you just run a fucking cable out the back on another slot and use what is known to work
23:58 < Hunterkll> :)
23:58 <+MillerBOSS> https://twitter.com/ryanaraine/status/988451098879967234 Atlanta .gov ransomware attack costs
23:58 < Zrane> Hunterkll, but the airflow!
23:59 < Hunterkll> suck a dick
23:59 < Hunterkll> lol
23:59 < Hunterkll> CheckYourSix, https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-H310-Perc-Adapter-8-Port-6Gb-s-SAS-RAID-Controller-HV52W-w-MJVMK/252197871865?hash=item3ab82a20f9:g:R~4AAOSwbdpWYLQI
23:59 < Hunterkll> there's your SAS HBA
23:59 < Zrane> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-LSI-6Gbps-SAS-HBA-Dual-Port-External-12DNW-H200E-Full-Height-Bracket/372274671293?hash=item56ad4caebd:g:xV8AAOSwwGdZ3Mdu
23:59 < Zrane> 10 bucks for airflow!
23:59 < Hunterkll> mine's cheaper
23:59 < Hunterkll> but that's a straight HBA Without reflashing
23:59 < Hunterkll> so might be worth for convinence
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