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00:00 < Zrane> Also, can just use external shit.
00:00 < Hunterkll> but what if he wants a shitload of drives?
00:00 < Hunterkll> then he'll need an expander
00:00 < Hunterkll> https://www.ebay.com/itm/487738-001-HP-24-Port-PCI-E-3Gb-SAS-Standard-Profile-Expander-Raid-Card-4XCord/161696131154?hash=item25a5d72852:g:Vo8AAOSw7FRWVeAo
00:00 < Hunterkll> which is like $15
00:00 < Hunterkll> and has an external port
00:00 < Zrane> Hunterkll, But it's HP.
00:00 < Zrane> And only 3gb.
00:00 < Hunterkll> the HP SAS expander is like xbox huge
00:00 < Hunterkll> in the freenas world
00:00 < genr8_> whats the cheapest way to hold a case of like 8 bay of drives
00:00 < Hunterkll> because there's so many and they're so cheap
00:00 < Zrane> Ahh
00:01 < Zrane> I don't freenas.
00:01 < Hunterkll> well
00:01 < Hunterkll> i use windows storage spaces
00:01 < Hunterkll> but still
00:01 < genr8_> if your main server is full, is there some kind of expansion backplane you can buy for cheap
00:01 < genr8_> that holds the drives too
00:01 < Hunterkll> you want a 'DAS'
00:01 < Hunterkll> direct attach storage array
00:01 < Zrane> genr8_, DAS.  With a SAS Raid or HBA controller.
00:01 < Hunterkll> Zrane, also that thing goes up to 6 with a firmware update I THINK
00:01 < Hunterkll> i know it does 12gbit/sec SAS
00:01 < Sousapro> Donger attached storage
00:01 < Zrane> Hunterkll, That's really not bad for $15, then.
00:02 < Hunterkll> but yees
00:02 < Hunterkll> it's the most compatible SAS expander out there
00:02 < Hunterkll> bar none
00:02 < Hunterkll> it's like the benchmark for 'em
00:02 < Hunterkll> if you buy that, you know it'll work
00:02 < Hunterkll> also, you can dual link it to an HBA
00:02 < Hunterkll> so each drive might be 3gbit SATA
00:02 < Hunterkll> BUT you've got 8 SAS channels back to your HBA
00:02 < Hunterkll> lol
00:02 < genr8_> how does it link ?
00:02 < Hunterkll> you hook a cable from one card to the other
00:02 < Zrane> genr8_, SAS.
00:03 < Hunterkll> like how you hook anything else up
00:03 < Hunterkll> with cables
00:03 < Hunterkll> you don't even need to actually put the expaner in a slot, just a PCIe adapter with power
00:03 < Hunterkll> lol
00:03 < Zrane> Or, in Hunterkll's case, sass.
00:03 < genr8_> mmk. so it knows which is an uplink and downlink
00:03 < Hunterkll> mine's laying in the back of my case
00:03 < Hunterkll> SAS is bidirectional
00:03 < genr8_> oh im blind
00:03 < genr8_> i see it saying Controller and BACKPLANE now
00:03 < xe0n> backPAIN
00:04 < Hunterkll> huh?
00:04 < Hunterkll> we're talking about the SAS expander inside the case
00:04 < Hunterkll> whatever
00:04 < xe0n> lolll
00:04 < Hunterkll> CheckYourSix, Zrane https://hardforum.com/threads/hp-sas-expander-owners-thread.1484614/
00:04 < genr8_> DAS BOOT
00:05 < Zrane> genr8_, In your case, just find a DAS and a compatible HBA or Raid controller(depending on needs) for your server.
00:05 <+CheckYourSix> Hunterkll: Now what type of LTO-4 drive would I buy?
00:05 < Hunterkll> anything advertised as working
00:05 < genr8_> i got that part. the part im concerned is the price of the enclosure
00:05 < Hunterkll> Sadly, you can't use LTOFS with LTO-4 (need the partitioning introduced in LTO-5) but i think you don't really care about that
00:05 < Zrane> CheckYourSix, They're cross compatible.  My dell library has IBM drives in it.  The HP ones tend to have the easiest driver support.
00:05 < Hunterkll> LTO-5 jumps the price
00:05 < Zrane> genr8_, Personal or work use?
00:05 < genr8_> personal
00:06 <+CheckYourSix> Ok, how about brand prefere?nce
00:06 < Zrane> genr8_, https://www.ebay.com/itm/DELL-POWERVAULT-MD1200-W-2X-650W-P-S-2X-MD12-SERIES-6GB-SAS-CONTROLLER-3DJRJ/222873504127?hash=item33e44bc97f:g:edgAAOSwXj5aoWdS
00:06 < genr8_> interesting
00:06 < Zrane> Oh, wait.  It doesn't have the drive sleds.  Don't buy that one.
00:07 < Zrane> CheckYourSix, Drivers are drives.  Brand matters more with libraries.
00:08 <+CheckYourSix> How often do you trade tapes out/run the backup to tape?
00:08 < Zrane> Unrelated, I just found this on SuperMicro: https://www.supermicro.com/products/system/2U/2028/SSG-2028R-NR48N.cfm
00:08 < sideup66> Let's have a moment of silence
00:08 < Zrane> Not sure how someone decided that was a good idea.
00:08 < sideup66> The internet died today... Net neutrality laws are officially repealed
00:08 < sideup66> Comcrap can now legally charge you for facebook
00:09 < Hunterkll> CheckYourSix, depends, but eh
00:09 < Hunterkll> I'll rotate a tape out of usage after like 5 runs, but that's oldschool thinking anyway, they are a lot more durable
00:10 < Hunterkll> I was also dealing with a tape rotation of ~400 tapes with 3-4 weekly swapped out and covering $100mil worth of data
00:10 < Hunterkll> so i was a weee bit paranoid
00:10 < Casteil> welp... I've run my water for like 4-5 hours straight today, my water bill this quarter is going to be ridiculous :X
00:11 < Maarten> tapes.... do people still use tapes for backup? I guess for monthly or yearly DR recovery sets it might still make sense but surely not for day to day backups....
00:11 < Hunterkll> alright
00:11 < Hunterkll> this cycle of medical bills is taken care of
00:11 < Hunterkll> lol
00:12 < Hunterkll> hotel reservations for 2 conventions handled
00:12 < Hunterkll> flights and trains handled up through june
00:12 < Zrane> Maarten, I copy all my daily jobs to tape and ship them off once a week.  It's the suspenders to my storage appliances's belt.
00:12 <+CheckYourSix> Some day, 10 gig tuning will be easy. It's obnoxious right now
00:12 < admiralspark> Hunterkll: brag brag brag :P
00:13 < genr8_> why the fuck are the sleds mated to drives ?
00:13 < xe0n> i have a wicked coffee
00:13 < admiralspark> CheckYourSix: what fo you mean?
00:13 < genr8_> everyone is sellin these PowerVaults without the sleds, cause the sleds ar the drives......
00:13 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, i'm going to indianapoilis for a convention just because of a porn star party i'm going to
00:13 < Hunterkll> >_>
00:13 < Zrane> genr8_, No, the sleds come off the drives.
00:13 < genr8_> theyre labelled like 15K 3TB SAS
00:13 < Zrane> The sticker is just a sticker.
00:13 < genr8_> i cant find anything for cheap with blanks
00:13 <+CheckYourSix> admiralspark: I have 10 gig from my desktop to FreeNAS iperf pulls 6.6 Gbps, real world SMB transfer I get like 220 MB/s from NAS to desktop, about 350 MB/s going desktop to NAS.
00:14 < Hunterkll> genr8_, i'd expect to run $300-500 for a library with drive or drive sfor LTO-4
00:14 < genr8_> wrong person
00:14 < Hunterkll> no, not wrong person
00:14 < Hunterkll> oh
00:14 < genr8_> i dont want tape, i want 8+ drives in an enclosure
00:14 < Hunterkll> you were talking about HDD
00:14 < Hunterkll> lol
00:14 < Hunterkll> MD1000s are nice
00:14 < Hunterkll> the sleds are separate
00:14 < Maarten> Zrane, I remember single location backups and having to protect against fires..... them were the days. Right now, my backup strategy is 3 data centers, one in Los Angeles, one in Amsterdam, one in Hong Kong, and all critical data is replicated between them. Now unless Kim Jong Un decides to nuke all three, I don't want to see another tape in my life ever again! :D
00:14 < Hunterkll> they're relatively standard, actually
00:14 < Hunterkll> the sleds in my new Equallogic PS6210X's were actually the same as the 2.5" drive sleds in the servers
00:15 < genr8_> its like $100-$200 for a blank chassis and like $500 for a chassis with all the sleds
00:15 < Zrane> Hunterkll, The sleds are the same on all my dell shit, aside from the Compellent SCs.  And even then, it might just be the face plate thats different.
00:15 < genr8_> whats the sled part number to search by
00:15 < Zrane> genr8_, https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-3-5-SAS-SATA-Hard-Drive-Tray-Caddy-For-Dell-PowerEdge-T610-Ship-From-USA/252657452833?hash=item3ad38ec721:g:w00AAOSwgZ1XsuAY
00:16 < genr8_> thats it ?
00:16 < genr8_> those are for the other series.
00:16 < Zrane> Or here, have a 12 pack.
00:16 < Zrane> https://www.ebay.com/itm/12pcs-Lot-3-5-SAS-HDD-Hard-Drive-Caddy-Tray-Carrier-For-Dell-PowerVault-MD1200/362236616891?hash=item5456fc20bb:g:4RAAAOSw8RZafQNZ
00:16 < Zrane> They're all the same, man.
00:16 < genr8_> oh. they are the same.
00:16 < genr8_> Great. 12 for $77
00:16 < genr8_> thanks ;0
00:16 < xe0n> yeah i dont miss tapes lol
00:16 < Zrane> The only difference is 3.5" or 2.5"
00:16 < admiralspark> CheckYourSix: ahh. Wouldn't that have nothing to do with the 10G? If you're seeing 6gb on a 10gb link that sounds like either fragmentation or asic buffers too low?
00:17 < xe0n> i remember doing reel to reel on dec vms machines lol
00:17 < genr8_> so for under like $300 i can get 12 more drives
00:17 <+CheckYourSix> admiralspark: It just requires tuning parameters. Lots of tinkering.
00:17 < admiralspark> The disk speeds would be 1.7gbps which isn't too bad?
00:17 < admiralspark> ahh
00:17 < Zrane> Maarten, I have two online locations.  My bigger concern is data corruption(Since the storage replicates whatever) or some sort of ransomware that manages to get on the backup server.
00:17 < Hunterkll> "When you cum in her ass and it starts to drip out her butthole like she a cute lil cheese hotpocket"
00:17 < Hunterkll> what the fuck
00:17 < genr8_> servers are too fun to not mess with the cheap stuff
00:18 <+DrGibby|> ...
00:18 <+CheckYourSix> admiralspark: It's an 8 drive array. Should be capable of almost line rate
00:18 < genr8_> yea i coulda done without that one
00:18 < ihre> xe0n: did you also play your favorite medleys on 78 rpm? :p
00:18 < xe0n> ihre: :P
00:18 <+CheckYourSix> If I can get 450-500 MB/s both directions (meaning my SSD is the limiter), I'd be happy
00:18 < genr8_> "tuning" sucks
00:19 < Casteil> I'm fine with ~100MB/s over lan :P
00:19 < admiralspark> CheckYourSix: Disk arrays aren't my strong suit, but I get 1.5gbps on a 4-disk zfs raidz2
00:19 < admiralspark> I assume it's completely different in the hardware world?
00:19 < Maarten> Zrane, we do keep history at all DC's, so we should be able to restore about 30 days or so at any time. We're actually looking into setting it up so users can restore individual files themselves using a web interface..... so that the stupid accounting chicks that accidentally delete a huge spreadsheet can go find their own backup. :P
00:19 < Hunterkll> lol
00:19 < Hunterkll> BITCH U ON U OWN
00:19 < admiralspark> Maarten: so....shadow copies? :P
00:19 < mkillebrew> why not just get a proper RAID controller
00:19 <+CheckYourSix> admiralspark: I'm on ZFS. 2 data disks isn't enough to do that much. I have 6 data disks. Should give me like 900 MB/s
00:19 < Maarten> right?
00:20 < Maarten> admiralspark, yes, but then glorified :)
00:20 < admiralspark> hahaha
00:20 < Zrane> I just teach them how to use shadow copies.
00:20 < mkillebrew> RAID controllers are relatively inexpensive now
00:20 < Zrane> Then restore the entire folder they accidentally overwrote.
00:20 < admiralspark> CheckYourSix: ahh. Hmm. Single node?
00:20 <+CheckYourSix> admiralspark: What do you mean?
00:21 < xe0n> meannn
00:21 < xe0n> you mean it's INSIDE the computer
00:21 < admiralspark> augh what are they called
00:22 < admiralspark> CheckYourSix: vdevs** not nodes
00:22 <+CheckYourSix> admiralspark: Yes, single vdev. 8 drive Z2
00:22 < admiralspark> hmmm
00:22 < admiralspark> interesting
00:23 < admiralspark> I'm building a dual vdev 8 drive two z2 pool specifically for the read speeds
00:23 < admiralspark> since idc about space as much while using big ass platters
00:24 < admiralspark> havent run a many-drive z2 yet though
00:24 < Hunterkll> NSFW but good for a laugh: https://imgur.com/lLxQMb5
00:24 < Hunterkll> 4chan text post
00:25 < mkillebrew> You have a single-drive raid-z2?
00:26 <+MillerBOSS> Wow what a tool, Anon....
00:27 < genr8_> SSL certificates are the bane of my existence
00:31 < Ottomite> Build a computer they said, it will be fun they said.
00:32 < Ottomite> im about to go office space up in here….
00:33 < admiralspark> ihre: I love you, it worked. Pushed directly to prod ;)
00:33 < admiralspark> Ottomite: I take the stance of "if I do it once, fine. If I do it twice, it gets automated"
00:33 < admiralspark> WDS and MDT that ish ;)
00:33 < admiralspark> SCCM if you have budget
00:34 < Ottomite> admiralspark: im dealing with hardware issues.
00:34 < admiralspark> s/budget/moneytrees
00:34 <+layer-eight> admiralspark meant: "SCCM if you have moneytrees"
00:34 < admiralspark> Ottomite: :(
00:34 < Ottomite> this is my personal computer. i7 8700k and the works.
00:34 < admiralspark> replace the user?
00:34 < admiralspark> oh
00:34 < admiralspark> whelp
00:34 < Ottomite> first round dead MOBO
00:34 < admiralspark> oof
00:34 < Ottomite> this round looks like a bad ram stick
00:34 < genr8_> what mobo
00:35 < Ottomite> Z370 Aorus Gaming 7
00:35 < genr8_> you know gigabyte does something weird where it powers on for a split second then turns off and turns back on
00:35 < genr8_> try using the MemOK button on the board
00:36 < genr8_> flash CMOS. push down hard on the RAM sticks they need to click in
00:37 <+MillerBOSS> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/apple-heart-study/id1277240928?mt=8 Seems legit. Please don't tell me I have heart problems, kthxbye
00:37 < Ottomite> genr8_: they are clicking.
00:37 < genr8_> you're always supposed to test boot the barebones combo outside the case (on the motherboard box) just CPU Mobo and RAM that way if somethings dead you dont have to undo your whole build to return it
00:38 < genr8_> good luck m7
00:38 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.macrumors.com/2018/03/21/apple-watch-abnormal-heart-rhythm/ Study Confirms Apple Watch Can Detect Abnormal Heart Rhythm With 97% Accuracy
00:39 < Ottomite> thanks genr8_
00:39 < mkillebrew> but then you're stuck wearing an apple watch
00:39 <+MillerBOSS> What do you mean stuck?
00:39 < mkillebrew> I mean wearing one
00:39 < mkillebrew> looking like some kinda dork
00:39 <+MillerBOSS> I have no issues with that. Plus I'd rather be alive than dead, thank you very much kind sir.
00:40 < mkillebrew> good god, you even say "kind sir"
00:40 < mkillebrew> did you just tip your hat at me, too?
00:40 < genr8_> i dont consent to virtual hugs
00:41 <+MillerBOSS> No, I bowed and raised my hat.
00:41 <+MillerBOSS> ;)
00:41 < genr8_> i think i have abnormal heart rhythm
00:41 < genr8_> maybe i need to borrow someones watch
00:41 < mkillebrew> or go see a doctor
00:42 <+MillerBOSS> OK thanks mkillebrew
00:42 <+MillerBOSS> So fresh and so clean you are
00:42 < genr8_> my doctor is dumb. she always listens very intently at my heart and im like "whats wrong" shes like nothing youre fine
00:42 < mkillebrew> I don't even know what that's supposed tomean
00:42 <+MillerBOSS> Some people don't even know they may have heart issues. Especially if sleeping.
00:42 < genr8_> i go to the doctor monthly
00:43 < genr8_> opposite of you im not really trying to not be dead but its better to be healthy while you're alive
00:45 < mkillebrew> MillerBOSS lives dangerously, he uses strcpy()
00:46 < genr8_> that reminds me, i should go back to RAID 0 NVME os drive
00:48 < abakedapplepie> anyone have an ovh server?
00:48 < abakedapplepie> just purchased a second server and i cant select hyper-v 2012 as an os
00:49 < abakedapplepie> only 2008 :|
00:49 <+CheckYourSix> RAID 0 NVMe. Pfft. Go for broke, RAM Disk your OS
00:49 < genr8_> it may cost more
00:49 < genr8_> CheckYourSix: how do i get that to boot ?
00:51 <+CheckYourSix> Dunno lol
00:52 < genr8_> this doesnt seem very well figured out
00:52 < genr8_> I may have to figure it out and write another blog post like I did for NVME on x58
00:54 < genr8_> Firadisk
01:02 <+DrGibby|> god damn I love this insantpot
01:03 < abakedapplepie> what did you make
01:03 <+DrGibby|> making pork shops, but BBQ rib style
01:03 < abakedapplepie> i really hate myself for not buying the deal of the day instapot back around black friday
01:03 < abakedapplepie> thing was hella cheap
01:03 < abakedapplepie> $70 for the 13?-in-1
01:04 <+DrGibby|> stupid easy: veggie broth, smoke flavor, apple juice and some rub
01:04 < abakedapplepie> i used an instapot for the first time about a week later and hated myself ever since
01:04 <+DrGibby|> plus BBQ sauce when they're out
01:04 < genr8_> https://www.ghacks.net/2017/04/03/the-best-free-ramdisk-programs-for-windows/
01:04 <+DrGibby|> I use it almost daily.
01:04 < genr8_> sad
01:06 < genr8_> have you guys seen the new AMD + enmotus StoreMI SSD cachine technology
01:06 < genr8_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbl2dYgjMQ4
01:06 <+layer-eight> YouTube StoreMI: Why Tiered Storage is better than cache on x470/Zen+ and Threadripper by 2018-04-22T04:53:01.000Z (duration: 13:56) on Sun Apr 22 11:53:01 UTC 2018, 2018-04-22T04:53:01.000Z views
01:07 <+suttin> suh dudes
01:07 <+DrGibby|> suh
01:08 <+suttin> so, i found this today https://github.com/dthree/addict
01:08 <+suttin> but I can turn https on.
01:08 <+suttin> should I just rewrite the damn thing to use https?
01:09 <+DrGibby|> why not?
01:09 <+DrGibby|> fork it and improve it
01:09 <+suttin> because fuck javascript
01:11 <+DrGibby|> rewrite it without javascript
01:12 <+suttin> i was gonna write it in go :)
01:17 < enix> ad rest api is actually a bit of a turnon
01:20 <+suttin> enix: right? that addict thing i found was SLICK as fuck
01:20 <+suttin> localhost:3000/user
01:20 <+suttin> boom thats a json of all your ad users
01:20 < abakedapplepie> well shit that is just nifty
01:21 <+suttin> maybe I should write it in go and make it https
01:21 < genr8_> super nifty but lets talk shit about javascript and make offhand remarks incinuating that you could do better
01:21 < abakedapplepie> i did the opposite for a reporting thingy i just made.. send a json object to my db server every night
01:21 <+suttin> abakedapplepie: did you look at all the endpoints?
01:22 <+suttin> there is a post user endpoint
01:22 < abakedapplepie> i saw
01:22 <+suttin> add users to ad with a curl command? yes please
01:22 < abakedapplepie> i dont know if id want to manage ad that way though lol
01:22 < abakedapplepie> me, sure but i wouldnt give the helldesk that
01:22 <+suttin> for scripting, it would be amazing
01:22 <+suttin> no
01:22 <+suttin> all of this is for scripting
01:22 < abakedapplepie> but read only? fuck yeah
01:22 < abakedapplepie> yeah i know
01:23 < abakedapplepie> people would still find a way to fuck shit ujp
01:23 <+suttin> yeah, I think what I'm going to do is have an automation OU that only the service account that auths with this can modify
01:24 <+suttin> and possibly a rw and a r only account as well
01:32 < genr8_> If you try to copy a network folder in windows to a drive with not enough space on it, It will try to calculate the entire size first before saying "You dont have enough space"
01:33 < genr8_> like, even when it gets counted up to past the available space.
01:46 < Sousapro> genr8_: wow really?
01:47 < Sousapro> I haven't tried to copy any files I wasnt sure about in a long time
01:47 < genr8_> mhm
01:47 < BytesAndCoffee> so i finally have a non-insane shift at work
01:47 < genr8_> real waste of time tbh. small oversights like that contribute to the overall shittyness of it
01:47 < BytesAndCoffee> 10-6:30
01:48 < ihre> suttin: a proxy in front or support for ldap/kerb/auditing support might make a nice(r) start, because it looks really useful, just not without aaa :p
01:49 < DLSteve> BytesAndCoffee, AM or PM?
01:50 < BytesAndCoffee> DLSteve: 10 AM to 6:30 PM
01:50 <+suttin> ihre: aaa?
01:50 < DLSteve> BytesAndCoffee, Not terrible I guess except where I am I would be stuck in real bad traffic going both ways.
01:51 < ihre> authentication, authorization, auditing/accounting
01:51 <+suttin> ah, yeah I can bake all of that in
01:51 <+suttin> and auditing could come from AD itself
01:52 < DLSteve> accounting?
01:53 < BytesAndCoffee> DLSteve: 15-minute walk as my commute, and im doing inbound in a tech call center
01:54 < BytesAndCoffee> if im TFT to walk home, there's a bus that takes me almost door-to-door
01:54 < ihre> accounting for what happens at the endpoint
01:54 < ihre> keeping track of requests
01:55 < genr8_> god im dealing with the worst issue. my laptop can only transfer 500MB of files before the transfer just dies
01:55 < DLSteve> ihre, What kind of requests>
01:55 < DLSteve> ?
01:56 < ihre> i guess you've missed tha context :p
01:56 < DLSteve> Yah I did :P I'm just curious as I work in IAM at my company. We mainly just log everything in Splunk for auditing though.
01:58 < ihre> https://github.com/dthree/addict -> creates a service to talk to AD over an API
01:58 < mkillebrew> transfers over what protocol
01:58 <+suttin> http
01:58 < rpifan> i have werked today
01:58 < DLSteve> But AD already supports LDAP
01:59 <+suttin> but it doesnt support post requests
01:59 < rpifan> speaking of AD is there a way to integrate AD and linux
01:59 < genr8_> ive already tried 3 protocols. FTP SCP and SMB
01:59 < rpifan> i refuse to run windows
01:59 < mkillebrew> because tons of things resume transfers instead ofstartingthemall over again
01:59 < rpifan> on my work machien
01:59 < mkillebrew> ftp resumes
01:59 < ihre> sssd
01:59 <+suttin> rpifan: sssd
01:59 < mkillebrew> scp with --partialand --appendshould resume
01:59 < genr8_> but why is it disconnecting
01:59 < mkillebrew> fucking space bar
01:59 < DLSteve> rpifan, I do all my AD administration from a Mac so yes.
01:59 < rpifan> sssd?
01:59 < ihre> sssd
02:00 <+suttin> sss daemon
02:00 < genr8_> i need to find my USB to ethernet adapter
02:00 < genr8_> im like 5 feet from the wifi router tho so...
02:00 < mkillebrew> fucking macbook pro must have gotten a tiny spec of dust under the spacebar, jamming it.
02:00 < rpifan> cool well ill have to convince the IT security guy that its safe and doable
02:00 <+suttin> rpifan: its what we use in production, its safe
02:00 < BytesAndCoffee> i love how half of my job is this https://i.imgur.com/tCOGfeO.jpg
02:01 < rpifan> is therer any kind of write up or anythign that i can show the guy, he did basically said if u can get it work and integrate go for it
02:01 < mkillebrew> You tell at clouds?
02:01 < mkillebrew> I berated a lizard last Thursday.
02:01 < DLSteve> rpifan, Why would the security guy not want to use some sort of directory?
02:01 <+suttin> rpifan: there are a lot of articles
02:01 < mkillebrew> though it wasn't work-related
02:02 < rpifan> no idea, but when i said im gonna use linux on my machien he started but the security and the GPDR and i said but i talked to the CTO and he said it was ok
02:02 <+suttin> also, sssd supports some gpos
02:02 < DLSteve> lol, does he even know what GDPR entails?
02:02 <+suttin> like for authentication
02:02 < rpifan> i dbout it
02:03 < rpifan> he was just foaming at the mouth a bit
02:03 < rpifan> at the precived lack fo control i imagine
02:03 < rpifan> im the PFY
02:03 < rpifan> here
02:03 < rpifan> barely jsut a tech support guy
02:03 < DLSteve> If anything a directory helps facilitate GDPR compliance.
02:03 < rpifan> and im talking about moving us to linux and shit
02:03 < mkillebrew> why would you want to move to shit
02:04 < rpifan> well i want to run linux myself
02:04 < rpifan> thats all that matters for me
02:04 < DLSteve> We have thousands of Linux servers that have to meet PCI, SOX, HIPAA, and GDPR compliance. It's very doable, same amount of effort as doing it on Windows anyway.
02:04 < rpifan> thats what i figure
02:05 < rpifan> still before i started thsi job i clearly asked the CTO if i could do it
02:05 < rpifan> and he said yes
02:05 < rpifan> and he is everyones daddy
02:05 <+suttin> sssd is your solution, its ezpz
02:06 < rpifan> i will do research on it but my local boss is ok with linux too
02:06 <+DrGibby|> abakedapplepie: follow this for ribs or chops for the best meal ever: https://mommyshomecooking.com/instant-pot-barbecue-ribs/
02:06 < mkillebrew> why would you ask, just do it if it's feasible.
02:06 < rpifan> so it seems almost everyone is ok with it except security guy
02:06 < ihre> https://dpaste.de/T9AC/raw -> from https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html/windows_integration_guide/sssd-ad
02:07 < rpifan> i jsut need to get a feel for our current AD environment cause so far it seems all we do is on the cloud
02:07 < rpifan> i also got a laptop and i brought it home
02:07 < rpifan> so i guess i can explore
02:07 < rpifan> as all we are assigned are laptops
02:07 < rpifan> it doesnt ahve any kind of bios lock on it either
02:07 < ihre> if you cant access the red hat docs, sign up for a developers account and you should be able to view most of their paywalled stuff
02:08 < rpifan> i see on fb they keep pushign the free dev account
02:08 < ihre> https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2016/03/31/no-cost-rhel-developer-subscription-now-available/
02:08 < genr8_> I think this wifi router is dead. it disconnects mid-transfer :(
02:08 < rpifan> now that i think about it, if this laptop is on the windows domain, i wont be able to use it at home now will i
02:08 < genr8_> any protocol
02:08 < rpifan> lol
02:09 < DLSteve> rpifan, why not?
02:09 < DLSteve> Windows should cache the credentials
02:09 < rpifan> doesnt it use the AD to authentic
02:09 < admiralspark> WHOS READY FOR 1803
02:09 < admiralspark> drops tomorrow
02:09 <+suttin> linux should cache too
02:09 < genr8_> ugh
02:09 < rpifan> whats 1803
02:09 < ihre> a new mixtape?!
02:09 < DLSteve> It does but I can use my computers for 30 days off the domain.
02:09 < admiralspark> Win10 1803
02:09 < admiralspark> ihre: only the dankest of filthy rap
02:10 < ihre> fre$h m$ - 1803
02:10 < rpifan> well the guy did say that the routers have a 5 day lease on them
02:10 < rpifan> at home
02:10 < rpifan> i mean at wok
02:10 < rpifan> work
02:10 < admiralspark> DJ Micro$oft - It's Mr Steal-your-OS
02:10 < DLSteve> rpifan, does not mean anything, it a GPO configuration.
02:11 < rpifan> i see, i admin plainly im a noob at GPO
02:11 < DLSteve> As to how long the computer can be off the domain for.
02:12 < rpifan> i see
02:12 < rpifan> i guess i cant check those config from my local machine?
02:12 < genr8_> you can
02:12 < rpifan> regedit? lol
02:12 < genr8_> Resultant Set of Policy (RSOP)
02:13 < genr8_> yea its in the registry too
02:13 < genr8_> try gpedit.msc
02:13 < rpifan> ill type it once i get on that machine
02:13 < xe0n> admiralspark: been running it at home for however long, its nothing exciting lol
02:13 < genr8_> look up the better way to find that specific thing out
02:13 < genr8_> policy is massive
02:14 < rpifan> oh totally unrelated question, can ansible do mysql and api type work to automate actions, as i was thnking of making a bash script for most of the work i have to do
02:14 < ihre> sure
02:14 < rpifan> is it more productive to go for ansible or just the bash / python straight up script
02:14 < admiralspark> xe0n: I'm more betting on how many more GPO controls are going to stop working.
02:15 < ihre> neither and both, depends on the work you're doing :P
02:15 < xe0n> admiralspark: meh, should be fine for the majority of the baselines
02:15 < rpifan> true that
02:15 < rpifan> still i just started at this job
02:15 < admiralspark> rpifan: I'd learn it in python and bash first, then you'll know which elements you can automate and which need manual tweaks
02:15 < admiralspark> I use Ansible for almost everything but I still have things I need python for, specifically when dealing with databases
02:16 < ihre> https://www.navicat.com/en/ was mentioned earlier today as useful mysql mgmt ui/tool
02:16 < rpifan> makes sense yea
02:16 < admiralspark> xe0n: unfortunately we need a few more controls...the true solution is running 1607 tho
02:16 < ihre> as a better version of phpmyadmin
02:16 < ihre> s/version/replacement
02:16 <+layer-eight> ihre meant: "as a better replacement of phpmyadmin"
02:16 < xe0n> true solution? 1607 has finished support lol
02:16 < xe0n> except ltsc :|
02:16 < admiralspark> er, right. Is there a 1607 that's not ltsc?
02:17 < ihre> s/true/final
02:17 <+layer-eight> xe0n meant: "final solution? 1607 has finished support lol"
02:17 < admiralspark> Stability > windows store and xbox live integration :P
02:18 < xe0n> yeah, and no office support lol
02:18 < xe0n> but whatever, 1803, cool lol
02:18 < xe0n> fluuueeeentttttt
02:18 < enix> I just tried sneezing out of my nose
02:19 < enix> Do not recommend
02:19 < admiralspark> xe0n: office works fine on it?
02:19 < xe0n> it's not supported officially...
02:19 < admiralspark> I'm sorry, do you cal Office support questions in on your Microsoft contract? :P
02:19 < admiralspark> s/cal/call
02:19 <+layer-eight> admiralspark meant: "I'm sorry, do you call Office support questions in on your Microsoft contract? :P"
02:20 < genr8_> office lmao
02:20 < xe0n> lol riiight
02:21 <+NinjaStyle> Well I resigned today
02:21 < admiralspark> genr8_: pls don't be a Lotus guy, rip
02:21 < xe0n> oh so you signed the dotted line?
02:21 < admiralspark> NinjaStyle: WHAT
02:21 <+NinjaStyle> So I'm happy and sad
02:21 < admiralspark> deets bruh
02:21 <+NinjaStyle> admiralspark: I got an offer on Friday and let my company try to counter
02:21 <+NinjaStyle> As expected they couldn't even get close
02:22 <+NinjaStyle> So I resigned and accepted the offer
02:22 <+NinjaStyle> I really like my coworkers but it's just too good to pass up
02:23 < genr8_> the router is hosed. even LAN transfers disconnect after 500mb...
02:23 < genr8_> how is that real
02:23 < genr8_> I guess this would make it very hard for any rogue attackers to steal any considerable amount data but its highly annoying
02:24 < enix> NinjaStyle: mabrook
02:24 <+NinjaStyle> What's that
02:24 < enix> arabic congratulations
02:25 < xe0n> loll
02:26 <+NinjaStyle> Oh thanks
02:26 <+NinjaStyle> I'm nervous for some reason since it doesn't feel official yet
02:26 < enix> In my experience it never feels official
02:27 < enix> Until you're like "fuck this place I quit" lol
02:27 < rpifan> man sitting 8 hours has given me severe low back pain
02:27 < admiralspark> NinjaStyle: congratulations man
02:27 <+CheckYourSix> Every time I've moved jobs, it's been a little nerve racking. Doesn't feel real/safe until I've been at the new one for a while
02:27 <+NinjaStyle> admiralspark: thanks
02:27 < admiralspark> same
02:27 < rpifan> NinjaStyle, u got a good job?
02:28 <+NinjaStyle> CheckYourSix: yeah that's how I'm feeling
02:28 <+NinjaStyle> rpifan: I hope so
02:28 < enix> Whats the new position
02:28 <+CheckYourSix> NinjaStyle: I've had that feeling for the last few jobs
02:28 < admiralspark> New job was a new IT avenue as well, went from something I was completely comfortable doing but underpaid and bored with to good pay/bene and cybersec, it's been crazy.
02:28 < admiralspark> I think if I'd known the amount of paperwork involved I would have passed on cybersec but it's fun here
02:29 <+NinjaStyle> enix: senior consultant penetration tester
02:29 < admiralspark> Redteam
02:29 < admiralspark> nice
02:29 < enix> Oooo you can test your penetration on Nostalg14c i hear he likes that
02:29 <+CheckYourSix> Paperwork sucks ass
02:29 < admiralspark> yup. C'est la vie
02:29 < admiralspark> twice a month I get reminded why I do it
02:29 < rpifan> whats it pay
02:29 <+NinjaStyle> I'm just sad leaving my coworkers
02:30 < rpifan> dont be sad
02:30 < rpifan> no one gives a shit about u
02:30 < rpifan> and if something were to happen
02:30 <+NinjaStyle> :/
02:30 < rpifan> ud be the first to go
02:30 < rpifan> dont trust companies
02:30 < rpifan> they care about exploiting you and using you
02:30 < rpifan> if you got a better deal elsewhere go for it
02:30 < enix> Good coworkers are hard to find but legit not worth staying at a company for
02:30 < rpifan> and if u most take ur ex coworkesrs
02:30 < enix> Get them on facebook and catch up for drinks
02:30 <+NinjaStyle> I work in a really special group of people
02:31 < enix> rpifan: not all are that bad man my manager here is a top bloke, when I get my license back we'll be probably hanging out every weekend
02:31 <+NinjaStyle> They're the first people I have worked with where I felt like I found my people
02:31 < enix> ^
02:31 < enix> Fucking difficult, especially when you're a vaping, vegan rider like me.
02:31 < rpifan> but its all in a context
02:31 < rpifan> of explotative companies
02:32 < silentfury> i hate citrix.
02:32 < silentfury> have i said that lately?
02:32 < enix> not enough
02:32 < enix> say it three times in a row at midnight and it'll update you to their html5 client
02:32 < enix> Rather say bloody mary
02:33 < rpifan> im so glad i got a pull up bar
02:33 < rpifan> i get ot hang and it helps stretch ur low back
02:33 <+NinjaStyle> I've made myself sad now
02:33 < rpifan> y
02:34 < enix> NinjaStyle: start a google group with all your favorite people from work and email them throughout the day
02:34 < enix> that's what i did
02:34 < rpifan> u might find ppl are different outside of work
02:34 < rpifan> once u leavE that context
02:35 <+NinjaStyle> I've been outside of that context
02:35 <+NinjaStyle> Most people suck
02:35 < czarbomba> :(
02:36 <+NinjaStyle> I'm into some serious nerd shit
02:36 < genr8_> So..... SuperFetch is going crazy due to my Backup program.  up to 3-4% (missed the screenshot) https://puu.sh/A9j3F/1877e709cc.png
02:36 < genr8_> that means everytime i back up my files, all my prefetch shit gets trashed
02:37 < genr8_> so no point to even run that....
02:37 < insecurity> admiralspark: blue team is for chumps
02:37 < insecurity> congrats NinjaStyle
02:37 < admiralspark> NinjaStyle: I feel ya on that. I had an awesome group of coworkers at my last place. We keep up in chat and game together, but they also live 550 miles away (or more) now, so facetime is rare. You'll meet new people and you'll find you can make time for the old crew too.
02:37 < rpifan> i like neofetch
02:37 < admiralspark> insecurity: fight me and my Blue Team lyfe
02:37 < insecurity> with pleasure
02:37 < xe0n> i still keep in touch with a few of my old crew, but not many
02:37 <+NinjaStyle> I'm gonna be full remote which will be a tough adjustment
02:37 < admiralspark> NinjaStyle: plus, no reason you can't find new gamer weebs to hang with
02:37 < admiralspark> oof
02:38 < admiralspark> NinjaStyle: do you have a room you can make your "office"? I found that I had to work somewhere "else" than my main computer desk, else I didn't get motivated to even get dressed hah
02:38 <+suttin> work got us pluralsight accounts :D
02:39 <+NinjaStyle> I don't really have a good workspace
02:39 < insecurity> i do but i have loud children at home
02:39 < admiralspark> NinjaStyle: not sure of your locale, could you take an afternoon once a week and work in a coffee shop or something? Just to get a change of scenery
02:40 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah I might do that
02:40 <+NinjaStyle> I might even rent a small office
02:40 <+NinjaStyle> At a co-working space
02:41 <+DrGibby|> NinjaStyle: whats goin on man?
02:41 <+NinjaStyle> Quit my jerb
02:42 <+DrGibby|> :O
02:42 <+DrGibby|> new gig?
02:42 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah
02:42 < xe0n> i echo what admiralspark said, i struggle working from home lol
02:43 < xe0n> dont mind it, but the urge to get super high is strong lol
02:43 < admiralspark> hah
02:43 <+NinjaStyle> Lol
02:46 < insecurity> i usually work from home mondays but went in today because i had to work with some people in meatspace
02:46 < insecurity> skype just doesn't cut it
02:46 < xe0n> meatspace....did you say steak!?
02:46 < xe0n> no mistake, ohhh you got me all excited
02:46 < xe0n> cakes and pies, cakes and pies
02:47 <+NinjaStyle> I'm gonna pretend former company didn't just pay 4500 for me to go to black hat and see how that goes
02:47 < xe0n> haha
02:47 < xe0n> they wont care, just go and leave gracefully
02:47 < xe0n> how much notice, 2 weeks?
02:47 <+NinjaStyle> I hope I don't have to pay it back
02:47 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah
02:47 < xe0n> should be fine
02:48 < xe0n> tax write off for them
02:49 <+DrGibby|> any other westworld fans?
02:50 <+NinjaStyle> Ye
02:50 <+DrGibby|> yeee
02:50 <+NinjaStyle> Literally everyone ever
02:50 <+DrGibby|> see last nights episode?
02:50 <+NinjaStyle> Yus
02:50 <+DrGibby|> several people at the office don't watch :(
02:50 <+DrGibby|> did any of it make fucking sense to you?
02:50 <+NinjaStyle> It was pretty intense but yeah I think it mostly did
02:50 < bomb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpSfgusep7s
02:50 <+DrGibby|> I feel like I need to rewatch the last few episodes of last season because everything felt weird
02:51 <+layer-eight> YouTube Sounds of the 90's - old computer and printer starting up by 2013-03-17T03:25:09.000Z (duration: 2:22) on Sun Mar 17 10:25:09 UTC 2013, 2013-03-17T03:25:09.000Z views
02:51 <+DrGibby|> so I'm doing some of that tonight, hopefully.
02:53 <+NinjaStyle> I can get a coworking space for 600/mo
02:54 < insecurity> hah NinjaStyle my company defnitely had a claw back for training etc.
02:55 <+NinjaStyle> :(
02:55 < insecurity> do you have a contract ?
02:55 < catbeard> so wifi went down at the office yesterday
02:55 < catbeard> chickens with heads cut off i tell ya
02:55 < catbeard> til i found the wireless router unplugged from the PoE port
02:56 <+NinjaStyle> insecurity: no
02:56 < catbeard> ok so really need some windows ad advice here
02:56 < catbeard> if anyone has a minute
02:56 < catbeard> to confirm what i think should happen is actually correct, not an AD person at all, just been put in charge of it
02:58 < catbeard> $corp has/had a 2012 AD install, it's on it's last leg, disk corruption etc.. got new ESXi setup for PDC on a few VMs, what happened is that instead of running dcpromo it was simply unplugged from the network, and now it won't do anything because it gets some trust relationship issue because it can't find the PDC?
02:59 < catbeard> new PDC is 2018
02:59 < catbeard> trying to migrate about 200 users over, with SID translation i guess
02:59 < catbeard> new GPO/AD policies and such
03:00 < catbeard> former it director that set it up is disgruntled, and pending lawsuit so no help there
03:01 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Cat so what have you tried?
03:02 < catbeard> i didn't set up the new one, one of my senior windows it guys did, it looks okay to me
03:02 < catbeard> they have the old PDC up and running .. somehow
03:03 < catbeard> just need to know how to migrate everything over, and not lose everything, also can't take down production AD (current) unless new one works/is tested first
03:03 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> catbeard: Why not just P2V it, throw it on the ESXi?
03:03 < catbeard> p2v -> physical to virtual?
03:03 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Yes
03:04 < catbeard> we don't want any part of the old setup except for the users/groups
03:04 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> K.
03:04 < catbeard> we don't know what else the previous it director did before he left, but passwords keep resetting themselves, it's probably kitted
03:05 < catbeard> hence why we don't want to just clone and start up in vm
03:05 < catbeard> we're deploying new 2018 AD from scratch
03:05 < catbeard> it's all done except for users/groups/object groups
03:06 < catbeard> GPO / logon / logoff / ps1 profiles done
03:06 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> catbeard: https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/76996c80-f570-49f3-a952-a16b521c33c6/migration-user-from-one-domain-to-another-domain?forum=winserverDS
03:06 < catbeard> ty!  will take a look at that shortly
03:06 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> More specifically: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=19188
03:07 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Never really had to use it though.
03:11 <+suttin> oh oh god visual studio code looks sweet
03:11 <+suttin> even on linux
03:11 <+suttin> what world am I living in
03:12 < Gencade> Earth
03:15 < insecurity> computers
03:16 <+DrGibby|> things
03:17 < Casteil> jigglies
03:17 <+DrGibby|> juggalos
03:17 < Gencade> fuck you DrGibby|
03:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> yeah fuck you DrGibby|
03:18 <+DrGibby|> hey Gencade, hope you have a great night
03:18 <+DrGibby|> you as well McDonaldsWiFi
03:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> <3
03:18 < Gencade> thankkkks
03:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> i had to get in on the shit posting
03:18 < xe0n> catbeard: ADMT
03:23 < McDonaldsWiFi> How's everyone doing?
03:24 < Gencade> fuck mondays
03:24 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
03:24 < McDonaldsWiFi> i feel ya
03:24 < McDonaldsWiFi> We're in the middle of a company name change
03:24 < McDonaldsWiFi> been shit at work
03:25 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> McDonaldsWiFi: Sounds awesome
03:25 < McDonaldsWiFi> SysAdminGoneCraZ: its been pretty cancer
03:25 < xe0n> it's tuesday here :)
03:25 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
03:25 < xe0n> public holiday tomorrow
03:25 < xe0n> which eh means im staying back tonight to cram more work in
03:25 < McDonaldsWiFi> lucky
03:25 < McDonaldsWiFi> today we had a meeting
03:26 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> McDonaldsWiFi: how so?
03:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> 3 weeks ago they announced the new name
03:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> 2 weeks ago they said they wanted the emails and domain changed by april 30th
03:27 < McDonaldsWiFi> every step of this process something has went wrong, they had an MSP lead the charge to keep it moving
03:27 < McDonaldsWiFi> MSP fucked it up every step of the way.. I still have 75% of my user base who haven't migrated
03:27 < McDonaldsWiFi> due friday
03:27 < McDonaldsWiFi> they asked me today why tf my numbers are so bad
03:27 < McDonaldsWiFi> this is why I drink
03:27  * DrGibby| hands McDonaldsWiFi a beer
03:27 < McDonaldsWiFi> ^^
03:28 < McDonaldsWiFi> Ever been handed a task so unreachable you stopping caring as much?
03:28 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> McDonaldsWiFi: Have you used: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=19188 ?
03:28 < McDonaldsWiFi> the email is the issue
03:28 <+DrGibby|> McDonaldsWiFi: every day
03:28 < McDonaldsWiFi> We're using a service called SkyKick
03:28 < McDonaldsWiFi> which is dope on paper
03:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> but in practice it requires each user to have local admin and knowledge of how to install a program
03:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
03:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> so, the MSP assumed all of my users have local admin... why
03:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> why would I do that
03:29 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> .... That's stupid
03:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> road block one
03:29 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Just migrate it all from the AD ??
03:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> road block two, the installer comes up as a virus and chrome won't download it without turning off some settings
03:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> 90% of my user base use chrome, 90% of my userbase are NOT computer people
03:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> SysAdminGoneCraZ: office 365
03:30 < insecurity> "my"
03:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> yeah man, these my people dood
03:30 < xe0n> lol
03:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> so I'm already pissed they have the MSP lead the charge, then they fuck it all up, meeting comes down and they blame me
03:30 < insecurity> always been a pet peeve since i had a manager refer to us (his team) as his.
03:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> am I a real sysad,om yet?
03:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> sysadmin*
03:31 <+NinjaStyle> No
03:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> rekt
03:32 <+CheckYourSix> Hot security chick at work quit like 2 weeks ago. She just texted me and asked when we're going out for drinks. #win
03:32 <+CheckYourSix> Now I can actually go for it since she no longer works there
03:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> CheckYourSix: I'm living through you now
03:33 < xe0n> CheckYourSix: shitting where you eat is great :D
03:33 < xe0n> LOL
03:33 < xe0n> I'm hooking up with 2 chicks atm, one from work, one i met at the surf club lol
03:34 < xe0n> just rotate them around...
03:34 <+NinjaStyle> I'm gonna shit where u eat
03:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> xe0n: shits in the pool - confirmed
03:35 < rpifan> oh hey McDonaldsWiFi
03:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> rpifan: hello!
03:36  * rpifan just ate a huge faatty greasy burger and an oreo shake
03:36 < rpifan> my present for my first day of work
03:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> O.o
03:36 < xe0n> lol
03:36 <+CheckYourSix> rpifan: What job did you get now?
03:36 < rpifan> lol
03:36 < rpifan> im no longer it operations manager at centra tech
03:36 < rpifan> which btw has collapse
03:37 < rpifan> they all got arrested
03:37 <+CheckYourSix> Lol arrested for what?
03:37 <+CheckYourSix> xe0n: Lol. I work at a satellite office that doesn't have many people. It would'
03:37 <+CheckYourSix> ve been bad if I hooked upw ith her
03:37 < xe0n> yeah i dont recommend shitting where you eat, lol, it aint good
03:37 < xe0n> lol
03:37 < xe0n> i dont even like that im doing it
03:37 < xe0n> but meh
03:37 < rpifan> ICO fraud
03:38 <+DrGibby|> ICO'
03:38 <+DrGibby|> ICO's are fraud
03:38 < rpifan> idk
03:39 < rpifan> but this one was worse look up centra tech
03:39 < rpifan> so i was able to log into my machineo ff the network
03:40 < rpifan> the rsop nap in was unable to generate the computers data due to insufficient permissions
03:40 < genr8_> meaning ?
03:41 < rpifan> idk
03:41 < genr8_> generate what data? and what stopped it
03:41 < rpifan> thats what its says
03:41 < rpifan> rsop plugin
03:41 < rpifan> snap in
03:41 < genr8_> maybe they disabled viewing it or something
03:42 < genr8_> im not well versed in this
03:42 < rpifan> well it does show a few local policies
03:42 < rpifan> but nothing that seems to be relevant
03:42 < Jay-Ros> howdy all
03:42 < rpifan> hello
03:42 < rpifan> CheckYourSix, i am not technicial support representative at a boat company
03:42 < rpifan> now
03:43 < Jay-Ros> you are not?
03:43 < rpifan> i am now /s
03:44 < Jay-Ros> :)
03:44 < Jay-Ros> congrats man
03:44 < rpifan> s/i am not/i am now
03:44 <+layer-eight> rpifan meant: "CheckYourSix, i am now technicial support representative at a boat company"
03:44 < rpifan> thanks
03:44 < rpifan> i look forward to getting as much money as possible and leaving quickly
03:44 < Jay-Ros> #pirate that shit
03:45 < xe0n> sup Jay-Ros
03:45 < rpifan> pirate whst
03:45 <+CheckYourSix> Ugh. NFS mounts aren't working again
03:45 < Jay-Ros> howdy xe0n, relaxed and back from Melbourne for a 3-day walkaround with the gf
03:45 < Jay-Ros> came back to a firewall drop and office internet outage, so good times.
03:45 < xe0n> how was melb
03:45 < xe0n> the homeland lol
03:46 < Jay-Ros> It was great, we planned to cruise around town and check out the usual stuff, so we were in no rush
03:46 < Jay-Ros> I like melb in short bursts, I much prefer sydney
03:46 < xe0n> i dont miss melb yet lol
03:47 < Jay-Ros> the girlfriend is russian, hasn't been to melbourne before. She was most entertained by the gay community and the fashion community there
03:48 < Jay-Ros> consistently wide-eyed; its still frowned upon by government in moscow, so the lack of hiding it is something which continuously suprises her :P
03:51 <+CheckYourSix> OK, I'm really scratching my head. I don't understand why NFS on FreeNAS was working fine and then shit the bed. Samba still works fine. I don't understand this. Ugh. HALP
03:52 < genr8_> it takes a bit to reboot the NFS server itself
03:52 <+CheckYourSix> Well, what's happening is it times out when anything tries to mount the share
03:56 < czarbomba> did the nas finally start mounting the drive locally?
03:57 < czarbomba> (this is the same nas you were seeing the mount error in dmesg right?)
03:57 <+CheckYourSix> The NAS doesn't have issues mounting the drive locally
03:59 <+CheckYourSix> https://gist.github.com/CheckYourSix/712fd5c24f4c6f6a3ddcc7add3eb4f4b
03:59 <+CheckYourSix> TCP dump
03:59 <+CheckYourSix> I rebooted the NAS and my VM can mount the NFS share now. There's definitely a problem though. This shouldn't keep happening
04:02 < mkillebrew> jesus dude, tcpdump -nn
04:02 < genr8_> maybe you have a max client limit or something
04:02 <+CheckYourSix> mkillebrew: What'
04:02 <+CheckYourSix> s nn do?
04:02 <+CheckYourSix> genr8_: it'
04:02 <+CheckYourSix> s set to 8 NFS servers
04:03 <+CheckYourSix> dmesg on the NAS keeps showing a bunch of "nfsrv_cache_session: no session"
04:04 < mkillebrew> v3?
04:05 <+CheckYourSix> v4
04:05 < sideup66> sup room
04:06 < mal_will> I'm going through my company's policies for a SOC audit. I always knoew they were bad, but y'all. I found a screenshot of the body of an email listed as a "standard"
04:06 < mal_will> the email isn't even time-stamped, and it doesn't show recipients, or the sender.
04:06 < insecurity> hello buffer 6
04:06 < genr8_> Looks like maybe an issue between NFS v3 and v4.1
04:06 < mal_will> I should wuit today...
04:06 < mal_will> quit*
04:07 <+CheckYourSix> genr8_: Elaborate please
04:07 <+CheckYourSix> mal_will: :-/
04:07 < genr8_> idk. figure this one out "nfsrv_cache_session:
04:07 < genr8_> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2015-July/021676.html
04:08 < czarbomba> your nas has been targeted. would you like to commence operation: nuke from orbit? (y/n)
04:09 < mkillebrew> NAS an appliance or *nix box?
04:10 <+CheckYourSix> FreeNAS physical box, so BSD
04:13 < mkillebrew> sounds like you have some exciting debugging to do
04:13 < mkillebrew> I hope you like echo and netcat
04:13 <+CheckYourSix> I don't even know where to begin. The logs don't give shit for information
04:14 <+CheckYourSix> The only thing I can see as being a potential issue is only having "8 servers" for NFS. Shouldn't be a problem though because there aren't 8 VMs connected to that NFS share
04:15 < mkillebrew> debug client side
04:15 <+CheckYourSix> Any recommendations on where to look?
04:17 < mal_will> lil dicky did a collab with Chris Brown. :{
04:19 <@cryptic1> evening
04:19 <+DrGibby|> two people I'll never listen to
04:19 <+DrGibby|> hi cryptic1
04:19 <+DrGibby|> I hope you're good.
04:19 < Jay-Ros> eh, all my time listening to music is booked in with Two Chains and your boi Bangs
04:20 <@cryptic1> whats up?
04:20 < Jay-Ros> howdy cryptic1
04:20 <+DrGibby|> cryptic1: how was your monday?
04:21 <@cryptic1> alright
04:21 < mal_will> Lil dicky is fun for a giggle
04:21 < mal_will> for a light chuckle
04:21 < Jay-Ros> a quick chortle?
04:21 < Jay-Ros> perhaps a brief snicker?
04:23 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> McDonaldsWiFi: Any updates?
04:26 < mal_will> maybe a tickle in the throat
04:26 < Jay-Ros> calm down Mal
04:26 < mal_will> lol
04:38 < Jay-Ros> WSUS reconfiguration done... hopefully this bag of fuck is going to stay at a decent size this time
04:39 < Jay-Ros> 1tb catalogue... what a joke
04:39 < rpifan> why would someone worried about security leave the uefi with no password
04:40 < R-TypeEman> wsus is like a goldfish, no matter how big a disk it gets, it consumes all of it
04:40 < Jay-Ros> R-TypeEman - you betcha, and the guy that preceded me threw is haphazardly on the same disk drive as a finance app internally, so it chewed the fuck out of it
04:41 < Jay-Ros> I've got a change window this afternoon to migrate the finance app database, and while I'm doing that I need to reboot said server.
04:42 < Jay-Ros> When it comes back up, file resource manager role will be working, and I can limit the directory size to something reasonable... and then I can create some automated task to check the folder size vs. % allocated space, so I know if it's full.
04:44 < genr8_> How do i make this command work in powershell .. it only works in cmd prompt like this syntax
04:44 < genr8_> wmic diskdrive get caption, deviceid, size
04:47 < Jay-Ros> genr8 - it's get-wmiobject -class Win32_logicaldisk
04:50 < genr8_> nope its not.
04:50 < genr8_> totally not what i want
04:50 < Jay-Ros> you want the phyisical disk?
04:50 < Jay-Ros> get-disk
04:50 < genr8_> yes
04:50 < genr8_> sorry thats not a real command
04:51 < genr8_> i need it to be the command i said before. in powershell.
04:51 < Jay-Ros> ah, you need the formatting? ok give me a sec to fire it up
04:52 < mal_will> why bother when you have full disk encryption rpifan ? Asking because I've been taking a lot of security classes lately and no one has highlighted this as a concern
04:52 < czarbomba> jay-ros has successfully been convinced to do genr8_'s work for him
04:53 < Jay-Ros> czarbomba... it's lunch time here, all good
04:53 < czarbomba> hit me up at dinner. i've got a server i want decommissioned.
04:53 < Jay-Ros> get-disk | ft friendlyname, number, size
04:54 < genr8_> get-disk results in absolutely 0 output
04:54 < genr8_> no matter what
04:54 <+NinjaStyle> dont touch my disk
04:54 < Jay-Ros> ...you're using windows, right?
04:54 < Jay-Ros> you might not have any disk drives. Have you tried rebooting?
04:54 < Jay-Ros> are you running a valid version of windows?
04:54 < Jay-Ros> Are you a pirate??
04:54 < genr8_> lmao
04:54 < genr8_> thanks for the help bud
04:55 < Jay-Ros> https://imgur.com/a/wxgTYvb what version of powershell are you running?
04:55 < Jay-Ros> it's a valid command
04:55 < genr8_> idk
04:55 < genr8_> i see the command being valid but theres no output.
04:56 < Jay-Ros> https://imgur.com/a/wxgTYvb - also on hyperv
04:56 < genr8_> why cant i just use the wmic command in powershell with the right syntax ?
04:56 <+NinjaStyle> Get-WmiObject win32_diskdrive
04:56 < Jay-Ros> Ninjastyle - too many letters and stuff
04:56 <+NinjaStyle> is actually pulling the same wmi info as your wmic command
04:56 < genr8_> ayy that worrks.... sorta
04:56 < genr8_> Ninja wins this one
04:57 < genr8_> !nominate NinjaStyle helped me Get-WmiObject win32_diskdrive
04:57 < Jay-Ros> Ninja++
04:57 <+NinjaStyle> :)
04:57 < genr8_> i tried
04:57 < Jay-Ros> !Nominate NinjaStyle just an all-around general nice guy with a great knowledge base, great hair and a style which reminds me of a Ninja
04:58 < czarbomba> ok be honest. how many of you clicked on the sleeping capybara.
04:58 <+NinjaStyle> Jay-Ros: thanks dude
04:58 < czarbomba> !nominate ninjastyle he's gonna get me weed when i'm out in denver
04:58 < mal_will> get a room you three
04:58 <+DrGibby|> four*
04:58 < czarbomba> now it's a party
04:58 <+DrGibby|> I'm in too
04:59 < Jay-Ros> gen8r_ - add a | foreach-object {write-host $_.model $_.deviceID $_.size} or an FT in there and you'll get your matching thingo
04:59 < Jay-Ros> Fuck yeah, if Gibby is in, then I'm in
04:59 < Jay-Ros> I'll bring the sour cream and confetti
04:59 < mal_will> when are you in Denver czarbomba
04:59 <+DrGibby|> that is some horrendous fucking powershell shit but whatever
04:59 < genr8_> the question remains why the wmic command is different between powershell and cmd.exe
05:00 < czarbomba> not clear yet. seeing how this trip to utah thing shakes out.
05:00 <+NinjaStyle> Get-WmiObject win32_diskdrive | select Model, DeviceID, Size
05:00 <+NinjaStyle> is pretty clean
05:00 < Jay-Ros> that one. I was talking and typing at the same time...
05:00 < genr8_> thanks Ninja
05:00 < Jay-Ros> I was prepping for him to request the size in gb
05:00 < ebol4> fuck utah
05:00 < Jay-Ros> | foreach-object {write-host $_.model $_.deviceID $_.size/1gb}
05:00 < mal_will> here here, fuck Utah
05:01 < czarbomba> is there a wmic cmdlet that takes precedence over the .exe?
05:01 <+DrGibby|> wait we're actually, physically, traveling for this?
05:01 < czarbomba> i mean why wouldn't you get the get-wmiobject for most of that stuff
05:02 < genr8_> the command works. but only with 1 get parameter
05:02 < genr8_> once you try to tack on multiples with commas, it fails with "Invalid GET Expression"
05:02 < czarbomba> for logicaldisk?
05:02 <+ktechmidas> so next time I d/c my +v is gone? :(
05:02 < genr8_> https://puu.sh/A9nvd/cfaa1be3dd.png
05:03 < czarbomba> what's physical, "diskdrive"?
05:03  * ktechmidas prepares his bouncer to stay up for 5 years at least
05:03 < czarbomba> i don't think i've really touched wmic at all in a while
05:03 < Jay-Ros> wait, why is this not ISE?
05:03 < Jay-Ros> :|
05:03 < Jay-Ros> that screenshot needs 100% more powershell ISE
05:03 < mal_will> lol are a bunch of irc-ers going to travel so NinjaStyle can buy them weed?
05:03 <+DrGibby|> That feeling when you should stop watching someone because you wont remember it in the detail you need because of booze
05:03 < czarbomba> ise training wheels
05:04 < Jay-Ros> he's asking input for a get, so...yeah.
05:04 < czarbomba> i was just exploring the chance i might end up in the denver area after my utah trip
05:04 <+NinjaStyle> czarbomba: if you do, let me konw
05:04 <+ktechmidas> DrGibby|, someone or something?
05:04 < czarbomba> roger dodger
05:05 <+DrGibby|> err
05:05 <+DrGibby|> something
05:05 <+DrGibby|> good call, ktechmidas
05:05 <+ktechmidas> :P
05:05 < czarbomba> genr8 just out of curiosity, and i'll probably regret it at some point, what was the syntax of your failing wmic get
05:05 <+NinjaStyle> .seen cryptic1
05:05 <+layer-eight> cryptic1 spoke in #reddit-sysadmin 44 minutes 29 seconds ago. Message: alright
05:06 <+NinjaStyle> oh i guess i was asleep
05:06 <+DrGibby|> he was also a cunt, NinjaStyle
05:06 < Jay-Ros> .bofh
05:06 <+layer-eight> Jay-Ros, BOFH says: filesystem not big enough for Jumbo Kernel Patch
05:06 <+NinjaStyle> i might play some god of war
05:07 < genr8_> wmic.exe diskdrive get caption, deviceid, size
05:07 <+NinjaStyle> genr8_: do you need to use wmic or powershell?
05:07 < genr8_> the questions answered thanks
05:07 <+NinjaStyle> oh ok
05:08 < czarbomba> worked in cmd failed in powershell eh?
05:09 < genr8_> yea. i never ran into that
05:09 < genr8_> its the multiple get params
05:10 < Jay-Ros> cmd.exe /c "wmic.exe diskdrive get caption, deviceid, size"
05:10 <+NinjaStyle> oh i see what youre saying. that happens with some binaries in powershell because the args dont get passed in correctly, there are some hacky ways around it if needed
05:10 < Jay-Ros> :)
05:10 <+NinjaStyle> yeah like that one
05:10 <+NinjaStyle> :)
05:11 < xe0n> ins ins
05:12 < czarbomba> wmic.exe diskdrive get caption"," deviceid"," size <-- works correctly in powershell
05:12 < genr8_> cool
05:12 < Jay-Ros> and this one
05:12 < Jay-Ros> wmic.exe diskdrive get caption`, deviceid`, size
05:13 < Jay-Ros> the back thingy works with cmd commands in powershell
05:13 < xe0n> wmic csproduct get name
05:13 < xe0n> :P
05:13 < genr8_> wtf with the backtic
05:13 <+NinjaStyle> yeah i recommend he single tick method since thats the normal way to escape chars in powershell
05:13 < genr8_> ah its a comma thing
05:13 < Jay-Ros> it counts as literal character
05:13 < genr8_> fuck me ok.
05:13 < czarbomba> ah, grave accent escapes the next character
05:14 < czarbomba> in PS
05:14 < Jay-Ros> non-shift squiggle
05:14 < genr8_> it all makes sense now
05:14 < czarbomba> good to know
05:14 < czarbomba> saving keystrokes right thurr
05:14 < Jay-Ros> s/grave accent/non-shift squiggle thingy
05:14 <+layer-eight> czarbomba meant: "ah, non-shift squiggle thingy escapes the next character"
05:14 < Jay-Ros> get it right mate...
05:14 < czarbomba> "the other shit on the tilde key"
05:14 < Jay-Ros> non nyuh
05:15 < Jay-Ros> (the one from the mexican words)
05:15 <+NinjaStyle> i think backtick is right
05:15  * NinjaStyle googles
05:15 < Jay-Ros> clearly unshift nyuh key
05:15 <+NinjaStyle> lol
05:15 < xe0n> i just ate 2 min noodles, really not impressed tbh
05:15 < Jay-Ros> ñ
05:16 <+NinjaStyle> ~~~~~~<~
05:16 < czarbomba> language is quite literally a popularity contest when it comes to 'accepted usage'. if enough people say to make it so, it shall be.
05:16 < Jay-Ros> xe0n - if you put it in a tupperware container and shake it vigorously you can knock that down to a minute forty
05:16 < czarbomba> i had some pf chang pork dumplings in the microwave at work and they were surprisingly edible
05:17 < czarbomba> frozen, not leftover
05:17 <+NinjaStyle> i keep forgetting donald trump is 71
05:18 < Jay-Ros> I knocked out some meatballs on friday last week, so I threw them on some turkish bread, added cheese and sriracha sauce and threw it in the sandwich press
05:18 < czarbomba> Use in programming
05:18 < czarbomba> Programmers have used the grave accent symbol by itself (i.e. not combined with some letter) for a number of tasks. In this role, it is known as a backquote or backtick.
05:18 < czarbomba> ninjastyle is vindicate
05:19 <+NinjaStyle> backtick is best tick
05:19 < Jay-Ros> czarbomba - unshift nyuh is a much clearer definition
05:19 < czarbomba> it's a pain in the ass to differentiate the unshift nyuh from the unshift nyuk
05:20 <+DrGibby|> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng95gpwSjZU
05:20 <+layer-eight> YouTube Captain Phillips (2013) - You're Safe Now Scene (10/10) | Movieclips by 2017-04-19T21:04:29.000Z (duration: 3:28) on Thu Apr 20 04:04:29 UTC 2017, 2017-04-19T21:04:29.000Z views
05:20 < czarbomba> the shifted nuhuh muddies the waters even further because the first 'h' is silent
05:20 < Jay-Ros> do you mean the noise that Curly from the three stooges made to laugh, or the freshwater lake in the republic of karelia?
05:21 < Jay-Ros> there's also the Kanye West song "Nyuh Nyuh Nyuh wait till I get my money right"
05:21 < czarbomba> curly's signature laugh was taken from an ancient sumerian symbol which has mde its way onto modern day keyboards some of you call "a caret"
05:21 < Jay-Ros> .yt can't tell me nothing
05:21 <+layer-eight> YouTube Kanye West - Can't Tell Me Nothing - https://youtu.be/E58qLXBfLrs
05:21 < czarbomba> s/some/as what some
05:21 <+layer-eight> czarbomba meant: "curly's signature laugh was taken from an ancient sumerian symbol which has mde its way onto modern day keyboards as what some of you call "a caret""
05:22 < Jay-Ros> what, a shift six thingo?
05:22 < Jay-Ros> is that not a carrot?
05:23 < Jay-Ros> \(^_^)/ < 'asian happy eye'
05:23 < genr8_> caret
05:23 < czarbomba> the ignorant refer to it as "a caret".  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caret they need some history learnin'.
05:23 < czarbomba> now that's just raycess
05:23 < Jay-Ros> yeah, that's a diamond measurement, dug
05:24 < genr8_> carat
05:24 < Jay-Ros> nah, it's the anime happy eyes.
05:24 < genr8_> also, karat for gold
05:24 < genr8_> fuck that word has too many homonyms
05:24 < Jay-Ros> that's sexist genr8_
05:25 < genr8_> one might even say homophobc
05:26 < czarbomba> would the caret even be on the modern day keyboard if it hadn't been chosen to represent exponents in certain mathematical notations
05:26 <+NinjaStyle> homie povich
05:26 <+NinjaStyle> ^
05:27 <+NinjaStyle> idk i only use it for exponents
05:27 <+NinjaStyle> and for being like ^
05:27 < czarbomba> or like in page layout software subscripted
05:27 < czarbomba> to represent its original function
05:27 < Jay-Ros> it's used primarily for graphemes in other latin based languages
05:27 < czarbomba> which is rare as hell
05:27 < misspwn> why you gotta bring math into this?
05:28 < Jay-Ros> it just happens to have a separate one for moving the character around when you have an english keyboard in mspaint or powerpoint
05:28 < czarbomba> because math is probaby the only reason shift-six is a caret on many keyboards
05:28 < czarbomba> english being as widespread as it is, i'd guess most
05:28 < Casteil> nice, looks like I still have 5 PTO days to use before I get more in a month
05:29 <+NinjaStyle> nice
05:29 < czarbomba> straight up bragging about attendance record
05:29 < Casteil> (we don't currently accrue them as we go, only get them on our 1yr anniversaries)
05:29 <+NinjaStyle> go to bsides denver Casteil
05:29 < Casteil> but frankly I don't get much and haven't used much :P
05:29 < czarbomba> do you lose the five you have when the new ones kick in
05:29 < Casteil> year 1: took no days off
05:29 < hug> I think I have like 45 days of PTO saved up.
05:29 < Casteil> year 2: I've taken 5 pto days
05:29  * czarbomba climbs over the table and tackles hug
05:29 < Casteil> (3 of those were around christmas/new year)
05:30 < Casteil> or, 4 rather
05:30 < hug> Silly Americans.
05:30 < Casteil> czarbomba: I don't lose them until like the 2nd year
05:30 < misspwn> well if you plan it right, you can get a few extra long weekends in and that really breaks it up for me
05:30 < Casteil> yeah, that's kinda the plan
05:30 < czarbomba> no dentist, no doctor, no personal hours used anywhere in years 1-2
05:30 < czarbomba> that's a little weird even for millennials
05:30 < Casteil> I was sorta planning on one 3-day weekend a month until I got more PTO days in May
05:30 < hug> wait
05:30 < Casteil> ... I've done one lol
05:30 < hug> do your employers like
05:30 < Casteil> and still have 5 days left to use
05:30 < hug> take time off you if you have to go to the dentist?
05:31 <+NinjaStyle> that is one benefit to having a normal sysadmin job, you can take 1 day here and there
05:31 < xe0n> i dunno how much pto i have
05:31 < xe0n> i should check
05:31 < hug> If I have to go to the dentist I am just like
05:31 < czarbomba> i don't on account of salary plus i'm always up over the baseline anyway so i can take 2 hours here 3 hours there
05:31 < hug> btw guys i have a denist appt at 1PM, I'll be back at 3.
05:31 < Jay-Ros> i'm rockin a solid 18 days annual and a handful of time in lieus
05:31 < misspwn> uh yeah and if you have a reasonable boss or management, you can work around that by coming in early or staying late or working through a lunch
05:31 < czarbomba> but a lot of american employers are sticklers
05:31 <+NinjaStyle> having client billable work you always need to plan way in advance and fuck up a 40 client hour week
05:31 < czarbomba> especially when they're billing people out
05:31 < xe0n> yeah i got a few toil
05:31 < hug> Jay-Ros: You have 18 accrued? That's not even a year worth. :p
05:32 < xe0n> 18 is 3w 3d
05:32 < xe0n> :P
05:32 < Jay-Ros> hug - I have 20 and used 2 last weekend, I've hit a year now
05:32 < misspwn> billable hours is still something so new to me
05:32 < Casteil> USians get fucked for vacation
05:32 < misspwn> it's a different kind of world NinjaStyle
05:32 < Casteil> most people are lucky to have 2 weeks of total PTO
05:32 < xe0n> misspwn: msp?
05:32 < Casteil> sick + vacation
05:32 < misspwn> yeah
05:32 <+NinjaStyle> misspwn: are you a consultant too?
05:32 < hug> Casteil: Yeah that's kinda what I'm joking with w/r/t Jay-Ros.
05:32 <+NinjaStyle> oh msp
05:32 < misspwn> no i'm an "engineer"
05:32 < hug> We're Australian. Minimum 20 days PTO a year.
05:32 <+NinjaStyle> misspwn: :)
05:32 < czarbomba> oh you include sick time in pto?
05:33 < hug> No.
05:33 < xe0n> nope
05:33 < hug> PTO is holiday time.
05:33 < hug> Minimum 2 weeks sick leave.
05:33 < xe0n> sick is sick
05:33 < hug> Minimum 8 weeks unpaid compassionate leave.
05:33 < hug> I think.
05:33 < czarbomba> personal time off. sick is different, although there are rumors that might change.
05:33 <+NinjaStyle> usually pto here includes sick days
05:33 < hug> Paid time off is what I mean when I say PTO.
05:33 <+NinjaStyle> at least in my experience
05:33 < Jay-Ros> annual leave
05:34 < czarbomba> ah i don't lump holidays in with that because you tend to negotiate for pto on taking a job here
05:34 < Casteil> I had better PTO at Lowe's than my current company
05:34 < hug> As I said, I *think* fairwork specifies that an employee can take up to 8 weeks of unpaid leave for personal reasons.
05:34 < czarbomba> so the holidays are already kinda set in stone
05:34 < Casteil> 2 weeks vacation + 1 week sick time
05:34 < hug> czarbomba: wait
05:34 < czarbomba> but if i want, say, 20 days of pto a year i'm gonna throw it down at negotiations
05:34 < hug> czarbomba: We also get like 10 public holidays a year.
05:34 <+DrGibby|> power take off?
05:34 < Casteil> here I only get 2 weeks PTO (vac+sick)
05:34 < xe0n> Annual Leave:  61.01 hrs
05:34 < xe0n> not bad
05:34 <+NinjaStyle> my old and new job both do "unlimited pto"
05:34 < czarbomba> that's a week and a half
05:34 < xe0n> yep
05:34 < czarbomba> that's not even the average for usa
05:34 < xe0n> i've only been here for 6 months
05:34 < czarbomba> are you working in a dungeon, xe0n
05:35 < Casteil> "unlimited PTO but if we catch  you using more than 2 week's you're fired" :P
05:35 <+NinjaStyle> which means you cant cash your days out, but you also dont have to worry about your number of days
05:35 < hug> Okay just to clarify: Australians get 20 days paid leave, 10 days paid sick leave, 40 days unpaid compassionate leave. Yearly.
05:35 < Casteil> week's? wtf Caleo
05:35 < hug> That's the *minimum*.
05:35 < misspwn> i'm starting to see a trend on the whole unlimited pto so as long as you don't abuse it
05:35 < Casteil> time to go to bed >.>
05:35 < xe0n> czarbomba: i haven't been here a year yet to get my 4w llol
05:35 < hug> Some employers give more.
05:35 < czarbomba> 'compassionate leave'?
05:35 < xe0n> deaths etc..
05:35 < hug> czarbomba: "My daughter has cancer I'm taking 4 weeks off"
05:35 < czarbomba> oh. so your spot is guaranteed, basically
05:35 < hug> Yes.
05:35 < czarbomba> interesting way to do it
05:35 < hug> They can't fire you for that sort of thing.
05:36 < czarbomba> people would lose their shit 16 ways here if that was implemented
05:36 < hug> But they don't have to pay you.
05:36 < xe0n> hug where are you again, syd
05:36 <+NinjaStyle> hug: we have that its called FMLA
05:36 < hug> xe0n: Melbourne.
05:36 < Casteil> "my daughter has cancer, I'm taking 4 weeks off"
05:36 < czarbomba> right-to-work has funny rules
05:36 < xe0n> oh yeah, melbs
05:36 < Casteil> "you don't have a daughter"
05:36 < Casteil> >.>
05:36 <+NinjaStyle> hug: there is a federal law regarding unpaid leave for medical issues
05:36 < hug> Sydney is gross and full of homeless people and entitled assholes.
05:36 < hug> NinjaStyle: Yeah, so similar to what we get here.
05:36 < mal_will> It's not very paid though
05:36 < czarbomba> fuck it. i'll hit up the funeral on the saturday or sunda when it happens. i like being paid.
05:36 < mal_will> I think hug is saying it's full pay in AU?
05:37 < czarbomba> he said unpaid compassion leave
05:37 < hug> mal_will: Not compassionate leave, no.
05:37 < czarbomba> it's like 40 days of job-sticky
05:37 < mal_will> ah, yeah, we have it
05:37 < hug> But 20 days paid vacation and 10 days paid sick leave.
05:37 < hug> Is also minimum. Also, the 20 days paid is subject to "leave loading"
05:37 <+NinjaStyle> the 20 mandated pto days is nice
05:37 < hug> So I get paid 17.5% more when I'm on holiday.
05:37 < mal_will> However, it does not prevent your department from restructuring
05:37 < mal_will> lady in my office got restructured out of a job
05:38 < czarbomba> 4 weeks would never ever fly here as a minimum
05:38 <+NinjaStyle> she could probably fight that
05:38 < hug> mal_will: Do you guys get redundancy pay?
05:38 < xe0n> yep
05:38 < xe0n> oh wait
05:38 < xe0n> lol
05:38 < mal_will> I think we'd call it severance more
05:38 < czarbomba> you get duplicate paychecks?
05:38 < czarbomba> and they say socialism doesn't work
05:38 <+NinjaStyle> czarbomba: i have had 20 days at my last 2 jobs before the unlimited thing happened
05:38 < hug> Severance? Yeah. Is that mandatory?
05:38 < czarbomba> yeah for senior positions and high-skill positions, sure
05:38 < xe0n> how does unlimited work, you get paid for it?
05:38 < vader-> hmmm, i wonder if there is a way to clean up a csv file with song titles and artists... I have a file that has 2 columns (Title/Artist)... the problem is the Title is sometimes the artist and vice versa... I wonder if there is an API or some app/site/etc that would fix that and sort it properly...
05:38 < czarbomba> but joe asshole at mcdonalds?
05:38 < mal_will> but yeah, she left for 6 months, the department restructured, said they did away with the member services manager role
05:39 <+NinjaStyle> xe0n: yeah
05:39 < czarbomba> or, like, super green junior helpdesk guy
05:39 < mal_will> now it's member experience supervisor role
05:39 < hug> If I were restructured out of a job tomorrow, I'd get paid out uhhhhh
05:39 < czarbomba> boom, year one, 4 weeks off
05:39 < czarbomba> paid
05:39 < hug> My 7 weeks leave I have accrued, plus another mandatory 7 weeks severance pay.
05:39 < czarbomba> imagine how people would lose their minds here
05:39 < Jay-Ros> hug - and every senior manager walks around saying "I WISH they'd make me redundant!" in every company
05:39 <+NinjaStyle> xe0n: its paid time off, usually there re other things that incentivize  you to use it
05:39 < hug> Yyyyyep.
05:39 < xe0n> NinjaStyle: ah right
05:39 < czarbomba> this unlimited pto thing may be beyond my understanding
05:40 <+NinjaStyle> xe0n: err not use it*
05:40 < czarbomba> it just hurts my brain to consider it
05:40 < hug> But yeah. My job can't make me redundant without having to pay me 14 weeks pay.
05:40 < hug> Actually
05:40 < Casteil> https://i.imgur.com/K3F0NZV.png < this was my office today :P
05:40 <+NinjaStyle> xe0n: like we have a utilization requirement to get our bonus
05:40 < Casteil> came home early and worked from my deck :D
05:40 < sammm> does anyone know how much a storage gateway costs per month? i can't seme to find pricin gfor the gateway itself
05:40 < Jay-Ros> s/worked/browsed reddit
05:40 <+layer-eight> Casteil meant: "came home early and browsed reddit from my deck :D"
05:40 < hug> 7 of those weeks are entitled to leave loading, so 15.5 weeks pay.
05:40 < sammm> only pricing for data use
05:40 < Casteil> was so nice today... couldn't resist working outside for a while
05:41 < czarbomba> why were you working on a bus bench next to a doublewide trailer, casteil?
05:41  * czarbomba ducks
05:41 < xe0n> its nice here today
05:41 < Casteil> Jay-Ros: Maybe some days, but I definitely didn't do much if any redditing today
05:41 < xe0n> i need to go for a walk soon
05:41 < hug> ...Now I wish I'd get made redundant. :p
05:41 < hug> OH. I bet you guys don't even get long service leave. :p
05:41  * czarbomba clones hug
05:41 < hug> If you work at one place for 10 years, you just get 2 months off.
05:42 < xe0n> long service leave weeeee
05:42 < hug> For.. no reason. Just have 2 months off.
05:42 <+NinjaStyle> hug: my work does that at 5 years
05:42 < xe0n> i thought it was 7 years?
05:42 < Jay-Ros> most have 5 years in oz, hug?
05:42 < hug> NinjaStyle: This is federal mandatory.
05:42 <+NinjaStyle> weird
05:42 < xe0n> i thought it was 7 here, but i could be wrong, i was jus shy of it years ago
05:42 < czarbomba> "you. yes you. you look like you need a vacation.
05:42 < hug> Jay-Ros / xe0n - most places allow you to pro-rata.
05:42 < czarbomba> GTFO"
05:43 <+NinjaStyle> mandatory vacations is considered a security control according to cissp
05:43 < hug> xe0n: They *have* to give you 7/10ths of 2 months at 7 years, but they don't have to allow you to to take it. They do have to pay it out if you quit though.
05:43 < xe0n> ah ok, cool
05:43 < Jay-Ros> I've not been somewhere more than 3.5, so I was half way towards it
05:43 < hug> Also I don't think LSL gives you leave loading.
05:43 < xe0n> longest for me was 5.5
05:44 < xe0n> maybe i'll make 7 here, i dont wanna leave sunny coast lol
05:44 < Casteil> why is mandatory vacation considered a security control?
05:44 < hug> Casteil: One less thing to bribe people with, maybe.
05:44 < hug> Ew, sunshine coast.
05:44 < Casteil> auditing purposes? ...or morale purposes?
05:44 < hug> Old people and racists.
05:45 <+NinjaStyle> Casteil: to audit if something ongoing is happening in coordination with someones leave
05:46 < xe0n> lol, hug, beats melb
05:46 < xe0n> i dont miss melb at all
05:46 <+NinjaStyle> youre supposed to disable the user's access during the vacation
05:46 < hug> No fucking way.
05:46 < hug> I mean maybe if you don't like going out and having a good night life.
05:46 < hug> In which case: Probably.
05:47 < xe0n> dude, my night club days are over
05:47 < xe0n> 10 years of being a dj\in night club scene, over it
05:47 < hug> Night clubs are disgusting.
05:47 < xe0n> haha
05:47 < hug> I'm talking about good food and cocktail bars.
05:47 < xe0n> yeah, there's that up here too
05:48 < Casteil> NinjaStyle: Makes sense. I think the security+ stuff I was looking at may have touched on that stuff
05:48 < xe0n> i moved for the sea change, 30 odd years in melb, enough lol
05:48 < hug> I don't doubt there is, but I do doubt there's anywhere near as much. ;p
05:48 < xe0n> + i enjoy surfing etc
05:48 < Casteil> anyway, it's almost midnight... I should get to bed
05:48 < xe0n> its def slower and quieter here, which is nice
05:48 < xe0n> i dont miss the traffic
05:52 < Jay-Ros> I was glad to leave Melbourne CBD last night... I don't think I'll hang out in the city for anything except work now
05:52 < Jay-Ros> The trams are amazing compared to the shitshow of Sydney's traffic
05:53 < Jay-Ros> I'm off to brissy next week, but only for the day
05:56 < xe0n> yeah trams in melb are good, i do admit that
05:56 < xe0n> 24hr trains are good too
05:57 < xe0n> but i do enjoy life up here too, just super chill, go with the flow, plenty of beach, babes, bikinis, beer
05:57 < xe0n> the 4 b's
06:04 < vader-> any of you guys good with Fuzzy logic shit? I have a column of names and stuff, and i want to compare it against a large sheet of file names and see if any are in there
06:04 < hug> que
06:04 < hug> that sounds super straightforward.
06:04 < hug> Especially if you're using powershell.
06:05 < hug> $set1 | where {$set2 -contains $_}
06:05 < vader-> basically i have a list of song title - artist, some are artist - title... then i want to see if i have those files in my computer
06:05 < vader-> the problem is the formats are not the same, thats why i mentioned like fuzzy logic
06:09 < genr8_> fuzzy logic is not the same as plain old regex-like pattern matching
06:11 < genr8_> input filenames + pattern filter = output results
06:12 < Sousapro> Otamatone running in the nineties lol
06:12 < mal_will> Oh my god, Etsy is named after people saying etc weirdly
06:17 < Sousapro> I always figured it was a webdev's wife that started it
06:18 < Sousapro> Jeez me and my weeb music https://youtu.be/va8sRgPwHP0
06:18 <+layer-eight> YouTube Boku no Hero Academia: YOU SAY RUN || Metal Cover by RichaadEB by 2017-08-31T20:14:40.000Z (duration: 3:56) on Fri Sep 01 03:14:40 UTC 2017, 2017-08-31T20:14:40.000Z views
06:18 < Sousapro> This is pretty good tho
06:18 < Sousapro> Especially after the intro
06:27 < genr8_> im rawrite dd'ing in windows from my I:\ NTFS drive to a *.img file on my Freenas box and i'm gonna then mount it as an ISCSI extent and serve it back to myself.
06:28 < xe0n> sounds hacky
06:28 < xe0n> have fun
06:30 < p0x01> Hello
06:30 < xe0n> hi, asl?
06:31 <+DrGibby|> 18/f/cali
06:32 < p0x01> 22/m/doesnt matter ;)
06:34 < p0x01> Does have anyone experience with UDP packets over a network interface alias?
06:36 < genr8_> why would that be special at all
06:39 < p0x01> Cause our UDP packets get dropped and I don't know why. I have the assumption it's cause the alias? I don't know. We have no firewall rules, the checksum is okay, they arive in the system, but the kernel drops everything
06:45 < genr8_> "udp packets dropped by kernel" on google turns up a billion results
06:45 < genr8_> gl with that one ;p
06:46 < p0x01> Yeah... xD And I need to fix that until friday. I thought manybe someone had the same problem
06:46 < genr8_> something about full buffers
06:48 < Jay-Ros> remote calls today with IBM and Veritas... must be my lucky day
06:49 < p0x01> yeah, but I already tried to increase the buffer size.. And I think if the buffer is full, not every single packet would get dropped. I don't know, why is this always my job xD
06:51 < genr8_> run netstat -suna
06:52 < p0x01> I had, it say udp packets arived at unkown port. google said it would be the kernel. Our software works and listen on the right port
06:52 < togen> Jay-Ros: you couldn't ask for anything more incompetent?
06:52 < genr8_> maybe you're listening on an internal addy not 0.0.0.0
06:54 < xe0n> Jay-Ros: at least you're not about to get on the phone to HPE
06:54 < xe0n> lol
06:55 < togen> if you can ever find HPE's number on the website
06:55 < xe0n> haha i have the 13 number here
06:56 < p0x01> genr8_: No, I also checked this... I also disabled the rp_filter cause I thought maybe the kernel is buggy if something arives over an alias, but that also doesnt solve it
06:56 < genr8_> well, can you try it without the alias ?
06:57 < genr8_> https://support.hpe.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=mmr_kc-0102153
06:58 < genr8_> read thatr
06:58 < genr8_> i honestly dont think its the alias, i only suggested try it without to prove that it wasnt the alias
06:59 < Jay-Ros> oh, it's amazing, and we have HPE equipment too...
06:59 < Jay-Ros> Support guy: "You didn't attach the log file to that last email of reports" Me: "Yeah I did, it's at the bottom of the list. I'll send it separately as an attachment"
07:00 < p0x01> hehe, I wish I could. Our network is a bit "special" and one of our sysadmins did a real shitty job. I work on a robot. And we have many microcontrolers and motors which are listing on a hardcoded IP range. But one of us changed the hole IP range of our internal network so heavy that we don't just change it. So now we have a hacky network alias on the old IP range, and I cant try anything else
07:00 < p0x01> cause I break the network.
07:00 < p0x01> Our team isn't really "happy" about his job
07:00 < Jay-Ros> Support Guy: "OK, I received your email, but there's no attachment." Me: "OK, I'm sending another email. Got it? Good. See the screenshot of my outgoing email with the log file attached? You're stripping the email. Do you have another way for me to send you the log?"
07:01 < genr8_> haha
07:01 < genr8_> I always try to ask Comcast employees if i can send them a log and they say no they cant see attachments :P
07:02 < p0x01> xD
07:02 < genr8_> prolly their way of denying service
07:02 < genr8_> the equivalent of NANANANA cant hear you
07:06 < p0x01> Just copy paste the log into many mails and send them to them. A "workaround"
07:06 < xe0n> cbf today
07:06 < xe0n> i want to go buy beer
07:06 < xe0n> and smoke cones
07:07 < genr8_> i think it was a picture version of a graph RRD log i tried
07:07 < genr8_> they just werent intrested in being provided any real evidence the connection was down
07:07 < genr8_> i guess they cant believe a pic or a log anyway
07:08 < p0x01> yeah
07:08 < p0x01> afk, brb
07:30 < Jay-Ros> Hey guys, need some products/methods
07:31 < Jay-Ros> I've got veeam on DR site and office side, and one of the DR site servers is branch replication
07:31 < xe0n> brannnnchhhh
07:31 < xe0n> blaaannnnchhhh
07:31 < Jay-Ros> they're both on NAS Luns attached to the veeam servers, and I need something to copy the veeam files from one NAS LUN to another
07:31 < Jay-Ros> I've got a 100mb link, so speed's not an issue, but bandwidth throttling would be nice, and the server is about 400GB
07:34 < genr8_> rsync? No ?
07:35 < Jay-Ros> windows environment. Robocopy is an option, but I'd like more control. Probably some powershell task that kicks off a robocopy
07:39 < xe0n> fucking hell, helpdesk has handed me a ticket, cant install office lolol
07:39 < xe0n> jeeez
07:40 < nohusuro> helldesk*
07:40 < genr8_> [20:20:30] <genr8_> office lmao
07:40 < nohusuro> pass it back, "git gud"
08:09 < enix> hunterkll hunterkll hunterkll
08:09 < enix> s/hunterkll/seto_kaiba
08:09 <+layer-eight> enix meant: "seto_kaiba seto_kaiba seto_kaiba"
08:10 < Hunterkll> fuck off
08:10 < Hunterkll> i'm fappin
08:10 < enix> Omg it works O.O
08:10 < enix> You say his name three times and it summons him
08:10  * Hunterkll cackles
08:10 < enix> got five min?
08:12 < Jay-Ros> Hunterkll how's the leg nowadays?
08:12 < Hunterkll> jesus fuck
08:12 < Hunterkll> get with the program people
08:12 < Hunterkll> that's old news
08:13 < Jay-Ros> you've got a new leg?
08:13 < Jay-Ros> .yt grandma's boy robot legs
08:13 <+layer-eight> YouTube Grandma's Boy - The Best of JP - https://youtu.be/-ltORkYAdVk
08:14 < Hunterkll> WHY THE FUCK DO PEOPLE  ALWAYS PM WITHOUT ASKING FIRST
08:14 < Hunterkll> JESUS FUCK
08:15 < genr8_> i always thought asking was stupid
08:15 < genr8_> if you dont know them you can just click the X
08:15 < plop> gutten morgen
08:15 < genr8_> like, don't ask to ask.
08:15 < rpgio> dang, feeling worked up are we?
08:16 < xe0n> hey Hunterkll can i pm you?
08:16 < Hunterkll> only if it's good porn
08:16 < rpgio> please sir may we pm you
08:25 < enix> googles mail servers response to a helo is golden
08:25 < enix> 250 mx.google.com at your service
08:26 < genr8_> m'lady
08:26  * mxgooglecom tips fedora
08:26 < enix> LOL
08:31 < enix> So applying for our competitor
08:31 < enix> Interview on friday
08:31 < enix> I feel weird
08:34 <@Nostalg14c> reported
08:35 < enix> Thank you gmail for letting me me drop a calendar event into the email address of someone i've never contacted
08:44 < humpaxx> Good morning!
08:44 < humpaxx> Has anyone here used skykick before to migrate mail?
08:49 < Gencade> Not I
08:53 < abakedapplepie> my coworker used it a few times
08:53 < abakedapplepie> i think he liked it until it all went tits up on him once
08:54 < abakedapplepie> now he does azure ad when going to o365
08:54 < abakedapplepie> i dont know thje specifics
08:54 < xe0n> migwiz is nice for small migrations, otherwise i do hybrids
08:54 < abakedapplepie> im a big fan of manually connecting to each individual mail account and backing up a pst
08:56 < xe0n> gross
08:56 < xe0n> loll
08:57 < xe0n> that would suck if you're doing say a 400 - 500 user migration...
08:58 < abakedapplepie> lol
09:10 < The_Dv8or> sup
09:13 <+A-KO> nm
09:13 <+A-KO> just sending work e-mails
09:13 <+A-KO> at 12am at night
09:22 < The_Dv8or> I gotta stay awake for 9 more hours
09:22 < The_Dv8or> fuckin murder
09:23 < p0x01> https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2018-2628 | for everyone who has a Oracle WebLogic Server running which isn't patched
09:24 < genr8_> "network access via T3 " what is T3
09:25 < The_Dv8or> 45 megs a second
09:25 < The_Dv8or> clean line
09:25 < genr8_> heh.
09:27 < genr8_> wonderful., its oracle's proprietary protocol
09:28 < genr8_> allows remote attackers to execute arbitrary commands via a crafted serialized Java object in T3 protocol traffic to TCP port 7001, r
09:29 < genr8_> you google Oracle T3 Protocol and all you get are results about past Vulns. what a pile of junk
09:30 < p0x01> just oracle things...
09:30 < humpaxx> Hm, can i connect to a customers exchange online with my parner-credenials somehow? or do i need to use an admin account on that specifc tennant?
09:35 < p0x01> I'm away, see ya later
09:49 < Wannabejrsysadm> Some exchange wizzard online here today ?
09:49 < Wannabejrsysadm> I have this superweid issue where our old recepionist lady is still getting meeting request from everyone who books a room
09:49 < Wannabejrsysadm> even tho I can't find for the life of it where I could turn that off
10:08 < mr_noobs> Hey there!!
10:09 < mr_noobs> Quick question! We are trying to configure exim4 to work through LDAP, we checked access to the server and querying and it works
10:10 < genr8_> fuck everything is exchange/AD/LDAP
10:11 < mr_noobs> But exim returns a "Unroutable address" and when using tcpdump it mentions a query that is not there (though it's a query we used before)
10:11 < mr_noobs> We cant find it with grep -iR
10:12 < mr_noobs> genr8_ yeah i know, its a pain
10:12 < mr_noobs> Supposedly we have to migrate to this new machine today/tomorrow, and it doesn't seem to wanna work
10:14 < ihre> i think you can check it with exim -bt <address> but that exim conf is seperated into 9000 different files
10:14 < ihre> its a fucking pain in the ass :P
10:14 < mr_noobs> ihre yeaah we know, we tried that (its exim bt telling us unroutable address)
10:15 < mr_noobs> Also, our ip got banned fron freenode due to a small misunderstanding and now we are like f*cked (im ircing on the phone now)
10:18 < genr8_> https://serverfault.com/a/887609/384193
10:21 < genr8_> try the basics
10:21 < genr8_> run: dig MX domain.com      - for the domain that is "Unrouteable".  This will check to see if it resolves.
10:21 < genr8_> then telnet to port 25 on the resolved IP and see if it connects
10:23 < genr8_> If /etc/virtual/limit is set to a number other than zero, the /etc/virtual/usage/user file might be hitting that limit, thus stopping the outgoing email.
10:23 < genr8_> mv /etc/virtual/usage/* /home/users/USAGE
10:25 < mr_n00bs> Yoo
10:25 < mr_n00bs> It's the guy from before, now phone tethering
10:25 < genr8_> i take it you saw none of what i said
10:25 < mr_n00bs> I saw the serverfault link, we had seen it before but kinda cannot get it to work
10:26 < genr8_> genr8_> run: dig MX domain.com      - for the domain that is "Unrouteable".  This will check to see if it resolves.
10:26 < genr8_> [04:21:58] <genr8_> then telnet to port 25 on the resolved IP and see if it connects
10:26 < genr8_> [04:23:07] <genr8_> If /etc/virtual/limit is set to a number other than zero, the /etc/virtual/usage/user file might be hitting that limit, thus stopping the outgoing email.
10:26 < genr8_> [04:23:46] <genr8_> mv /etc/virtual/usage/* /home/users/USAGE
10:26 < mr_n00bs> Problem is, they used SASL before and like a lot of things extra, and we are trying to make it work directly with exim/ldap/dovecot
10:26 < mr_n00bs> You are the mvp
10:26 < mr_n00bs> Checking, we report in a sec
10:27 < mr_n00bs> Oh, forgot to mention, it's a smarthost
10:27 < mr_n00bs> So, the MX records using dig are kinda empty
10:28 < mr_n00bs> checking with telnet now
10:28 < meowschwitz> what do you mean 'kinda empty'
10:28 < meowschwitz> no MX = no incoming mail for the domain
10:29 < mr_n00bs> Hey! Now with telnet it gives us at least a different message
10:29 < mr_n00bs> Yeah, yeah, meowschwitz, it does have mx, read it wrong before
10:30  * meowschwitz shrugs
10:30 < meowschwitz> cant help you with exim
10:30 < meowschwitz> dont see why people would prefer it over postfix
10:31 < mr_n00bs> Well, we are kinda new here, but in our company they prefer exim to postfix any day of the week hahaha probs bad previous experiences
10:31  * mr_n00bs cries tears of sweat, blood and despair
10:32 < meowschwitz> dunno, I use postfix everywhere except large performance clusters, which is where qmail lives
10:32 < ihre> yup, fuck exim, i'll take postfix any day :p
10:33 < ihre> that autogenerate conf stuff is bullshit and super confusing, postconf and main/master are so much easier to work with :p
10:33 < genr8_> im out of ideas
10:33 < meowschwitz> qmail is like war on drugs
10:33 < meowschwitz> you start it and it never stops
10:33 < ihre> i havent worked with qmail
10:34 < mr_n00bs> Now telnet is saying something like "/usr/lib/exim4/local_scan/sa-exim.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory", it's a different quest now hahahaha
10:34 < mr_n00bs> No idea about qmail, but I can assure exim is a pain
10:34 < ihre> courier same deal btw, ill just stuck to postfix :3
10:34 < mr_n00bs> dovecot though, it's a pleasure to work with!
10:34 < The_Dv8or> fuuuuuuuuck… Im dyin from not being allowed to sleep
10:34 < meowschwitz> ihre: well, design and implementation wise, it is more conservative than Pat Buchanan reciting the bible
10:34 < ihre> indeed, dovecot is nice :)
10:34 < meowschwitz> mr_n00bs: wait, exim leaks OS level errors into telnet session?
10:35 < meowschwitz> that's grade A+ retarded
10:35 < meowschwitz> why not just dump /etc/shadow while at it
10:36 < mr_n00bs> it was telnet saying "451-Local configuration error - local_scan() library failure
10:36 < mr_n00bs> And then the other message hahaha didn't even consider it is indeed leaking
10:36 < mijndert> mr_n00bs: missing sa-exim package, whatever that does
10:36 < meowschwitz> integration with spamassassin would be my guess
10:37 < mijndert> heh makes sense
10:37 < mr_n00bs> We're checking now, but this is a pain mai dudes
10:38 < genr8_>  The_Dv8or if you can't sleep, can you at least eat ?
10:51 <@Nostalg14c> I present to you: the last 3 hours of work: https://i.imgur.com/YOdokgp.png
10:53 < togen> nice
10:53 < genr8_> looks like SCCM did most of the work for you :P
10:54 <@Nostalg14c> I wish.
10:55 < togen> better than not having SCCM *flips table*
10:58 < genr8_> what do you have to do manually ?
10:59 <@Nostalg14c> Query SCCM with powershell
10:59 <@Nostalg14c> convert the data to csv / log format, drop it to a file
10:59 <@Nostalg14c> then make sure you only write unique lines to that log file
10:59 <@Nostalg14c> then ingest that into logstash w/ grok
11:16 < mr_n00bs> Hey, has it ever happenned to you
11:16 < mr_n00bs> When you have some configuration in a program, you purgue that program, but the config still hangs around?
11:16 < mr_n00bs> Happend to us once with apache, and it seems it is happenning again
11:16 < mr_n00bs> I call them polterprograms
11:40 < ihre> mr_n00bs: apt or yum?
11:41 < FenJai> Morning peeps
11:43 < meowschwitz> mr_n00bs: dpkg --purge --pending
11:45 < genr8_> damnit i messed up my DD img. how can I prepend a 1MB file to a 1.5GB File :)
11:45 < genr8_> on ZFS. without recopying the entire file
11:45 < ihre> hence the question, that doesnt exist with yum iirc, found https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/292924 which has a nice workaround for it :)
11:48 < ihre> also apt-get remove --purge to nuke package owned files in the first place
11:49 < FenJai> Does anyone know a good HDD/SSD/NVME dock with USB 3 ?
11:49 < meowschwitz> genr8_: cat filea fileb > filec
11:50 < meowschwitz> FenJai: there is no such thing as a good dock
11:50 < meowschwitz> they are all crap
11:51 < mr_n00bs> ihre: meowschwitz: Yeah, we did that! Now we managed to restore it to an older, more functional version
11:51 < mr_n00bs> Still doesn't work though, I hate ldap
11:52 < ihre> but why would you use a smarthost w/ ldap auth .. ?
11:54 < ihre> i'd set up a dedicated mta for that
11:54 < FenJai> What makes them crap meowschwitz ?
11:54 < meowschwitz> FenJai: shitty chinese chips with shitty throughput
11:54 < mr_n00bs> I'm just on an intership, still learning, but we have to migrate and kinda use the same system they used
11:55 < mr_n00bs> (to be fair our boss is great, so can't really complain)
11:59 < ihre> Don't forget to pin the exim4 package then, so you won't bump it during the next update, and have 1 system where you can test new versions with your current config
12:08 < Trapdoor> manglement decided to implement sharepoint
12:09 < meowschwitz> haha
12:09 < meowschwitz> you die.
12:09 < Trapdoor> I won't manage it
12:09 < Trapdoor> I told him from day 1 that we can implement Sharepoint all we want, as long as I don't have to touch it or hear about it
12:10 < meowschwitz> <meowschwitz> haha <meowschwitz> you die.
12:54 < Gencade> morning folks
13:02 < Apooti_> Gencade, yo
13:02 < Gencade> How you doin Apooti_
13:03 < Apooti_> s'cool, trying to find what sort of linux based open source load balancers are available
13:03 < Apooti_> speaking of which, anyone have any experience with Zevenet's load balancer?
13:04 < Apooti_> or Neutrino
13:32 < humpaxx> Trapdoor: what about sharepoint online?
13:32 < humpaxx> Im sure you can just open sharepoint designed a whip something up in a few minutes
13:32 < humpaxx>  /s
13:42 < Reverend> Chaps. is anyone having issues with route53 in eu-west-1 atm?
13:42 < Reverend> Seeing a minor spike on downdetector, and our DNS is dropping like flies
13:45 < rhqq> check with ##aws
13:46 < rhqq> ah
13:46 < rhqq> you're already ther
13:50 < L3gacy> Bacon!
13:52 < rhqq> bacon strips
13:52 < L3gacy> bacon nakies?
13:53 < rhqq> nah, epic meal time reference
13:53 < rhqq> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZDv9pgHp8Q ;-)
13:53 <+layer-eight> YouTube Breakfast of Booze - Epic Meal Time by 2010-11-30T13:31:15.000Z (duration: 2:35) on Tue Nov 30 20:31:15 UTC 2010, 2010-11-30T13:31:15.000Z views
13:54 < L3gacy> I need to get my cash in order.  Havent worked for a week. >.<
14:01 < plop> .bofh
14:01 <+layer-eight> plop, BOFH says: knot in cables caused data stream to become twisted and kinked
14:04 < Casteil> I love when youtube ghosts videos that have been hugely viewed
14:04 < Trapdoor> I love it when youtube ghosts videos that have been hugely viewed too
14:04 < Casteil> you can't find a good version of Dwayne Johnson's "Shake it off" lip sync battle anymore
14:05 < Trapdoor> oooh wait
14:05 < Trapdoor> not youtube videos of ghosts
14:05 < Trapdoor> your sentence makes sense now
14:05 < Casteil> they removed the one with hundreds of millions of views... probably a copyright claim -.-
14:05 < enix> s/bacon/maple coconut strips
14:05 <+layer-eight> L3gacy meant: "maple coconut strips nakies?"
14:06 < rhqq> xD
14:08 < enix> so what do you guys think? telnetting into a prospective employers smtp server to find your interviewers email so you know where to send a calendar request
14:08 < enix> bad or nah
14:09 < rhqq> just leave your resume on their desktop
14:09 < rhqq> and call them directly
14:09 < enix> Im not there yet lol
14:09 < enix> That's barely possible now a days anyway sadly
14:20 < rory> Can anyone help me figure out why I get "DNS request timed out" for one particular domain when using Google's 8.8.8.8 DNS resolver? https://i.imgur.com/4N9hbn1.png
14:21 < enix> RORY WHERES AMY
14:21 < rory> ?
14:21 < enix> RORY RORY RORY THE ROMAN
14:21 < rory> You got me mixed up with someone else
14:21 < enix> HOW LONG YOU WAITED
14:21 < rory> 2 seconds
14:21 < rory> check the screenshot
14:21 < enix> Firewall
14:22 < oarmstrong> rory: 8.8.8.8 is fucked right now
14:22 < enix> AMY POND AND RORY THE ROMAN
14:22 < rory> oh really?
14:22 < rory> oarmstrong: how do you know?
14:22 < oarmstrong> /r/sysadmin/new
14:22 < enix> Wow new reddit SUCKS
14:22 < oarmstrong> +1
14:22 < rory> wow OK
14:23 < rory> I honestly didn't even consider that
14:23 < rory> How come it resolves OK from another network?
14:23  * oarmstrong shrugs
14:23 < rory> and how come other domains resolve from 8.8.8.8
14:23 < corn266> THE MAN WHO WAITED
14:23 < oarmstrong> one of our zones in R53 is broken - everything else is fine
14:23 < enix> corn266: THANK YOU
14:23 < corn266> best companion story imo
14:24 < corn266> oh got is beta live?
14:24 < enix> Doctor Donna had so much more potential tbh
14:24 < corn266> don't get me wrong, a lot of people thought Doctor Donna was best so far
14:24 < corn266> and it was good
14:25 < corn266> but damn, amy was hot
14:25 < rory> 5:19 AM PDT We are investigating reports of problems resolving some DNS records hosted on Route53 using the third party DNS resolvers 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 . DNS resolution using other third-party DNS resolvers or DNS resolution from within EC2 instances using the default EC2 resolvers are not affected at this time.
14:26 <@cryptic1> morning
14:26 < corn266> cryptic1, back to work
14:26 < enix> omg amy pond can be my kissogram anyday
14:27 <@cryptic1> D:
14:27 < corn266> "So you're a police officer"
14:27 < enix> I'm on the rewatch with rose tyler atm
14:28 < corn266> Nice, I really haven't touched the series since they went all PC with it
14:28 < enix> PC?
14:28 < enix> Ah you mean the who frowned this face guy.. peter something
14:28 < mtnielsen> I like the daleks
14:28 < mtnielsen> ..
14:28 < enix> https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/36/590x/KAREN-GILLAN-NEBULA-796691.jpg
14:28 < enix> Still hot
14:29 < enix> corn266: ohhh do you mean the female?
14:29 < mtnielsen> I also like the face of bo
14:29 < mtnielsen> boe
14:30 < enix> Ay ;)
14:30 < Apooti_> is there any way using the CLI on an ESXi 6.0 host to edit the network adapter of a single VM?
14:30 < corn266> Nah, fuckin finally the doctor was a female, but they just began throwing "inclusive" shit in it for the sake of having it there
14:30 < enix> Apooti_: yes
14:30 < Apooti_> enix, i just need to unplug it from the vSwitch and plug it back into another DVS
14:30 < enix> corn266: netflix doesnt get those episodes :( I reckon a female doctor is fantastic if she's super horny like the face of boe
14:30 < mtnielsen> I just don't understand how the doctor got to revive again, didn't he already spend the extra life he got from saving the home world ?
14:30 < Apooti_> and i have no access to the vCenter or powercli
14:31 < corn266> face of boe was a horn dog before he was the face of boe
14:31 < Apooti_> only ssh directly into the ESXi host
14:31 < corn266> I'm sure you have a "friend" with access to the new episodes
14:32 < mtnielsen> thought I'll admit I'm not sure I saw all the episodes from the last season, with the old doctor
14:32 < enix> corn266: i cbf tbh i dont have a home computer, and my laptops maxing out on disk space, so massively ceebs lol
14:32 < corn266> sounds like you need to purge your pr0n folder
14:32 < enix> Apooti_: i dont think you can ssh in i think you have to access directly
14:33 < enix> like a normal pooter
14:33 < enix> corn266: nah I like what i have
14:33 < Apooti_> enix, i'm already ssh'd in, since no one bothered disabling it...
14:33 < enix> oh i'd never sshed in
14:33 < Apooti_> i just can't figure out how to manipulate the VM network cards
14:33 < enix> been a while since i've been able to play with esxi
14:34 <@cryptic1> Apooti_, its disabled by default
14:34 <@cryptic1> so someone must have enabled it
14:34 < jrwr> got a video "card" in the mail today, did what any sysadmin would do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3jHsO6qHUk
14:34 <+layer-eight> YouTube A Video Message by 2018-04-24T12:31:34.000Z (duration: 22s) on Tue Apr 24 19:31:34 UTC 2018, 2018-04-24T12:31:34.000Z views
14:34 <@cryptic1> and disabled the alerts that are generated when its enabled
14:34 <@cryptic1> it will leave a notice up nagging you that ssh is enabled
14:34 < Apooti_> cryptic1, probably, still thats not the issue for now, since i need to reconfigure the vCenter VM nic so that i can bring it up and actually fix the entire network
14:35 < Apooti_> and all of this because someone just went in, swapped a NIC and fucked off without reconfiguring anything
14:35 < Apooti_> a physical NIC that is
14:35 <@cryptic1> oh thats smart
14:35 < Apooti_> yea...
14:35 < mtnielsen> someone ought to fix their own mistake
14:36 < Apooti_> mtnielsen, if that was the case then most of us would be unemployed
14:36 < mtnielsen> wouldn't that be nice ?
14:36 < Apooti_> yep
14:37 < Apooti_> so anyone has any ideas how i can reconfigure the vNIC of a VM with only CLI access to the ESXi host?
14:37 < Trapdoor> The height of my day so far? Swapping a harddrive from an old Precision tower into a new Precision 5820 tower
14:37 < Trapdoor> Step 1 to installing a drive? Take the side panel of, right?
14:37 < Apooti_> cause i'm out of ideas at this point
14:37 < mtnielsen> Trapdoor you forgot step 0, perform a complicated voodoo ritual
14:37 < Trapdoor> Wrong, if you take the side panel off a new Dell Precision tower, the alarm will sound and the machine will turn off
14:38 < Apooti_> Trapdoor, gotta love those intrusion switches
14:38 < Trapdoor> *me on the floor*: uuuh... you weren't doing anything important were you?
14:38 < Apooti_> get a toothpick or a small ziptie and jam it into the intrusion switch faster than it can react
14:39 < Apooti_> the catch is knowing where it is and holding it pressed in with your finger right after removing the side cover
14:39 < Apooti_> then jam the toothpick inside it
14:39 < Apooti_> its a simple push button
14:39 < enix> Apooti_: you sure you dont work for my company?
14:39 < enix> Sounds like everyone i fucking work with
14:40 < Apooti_> enix, unless you're sitting right next to me, then i don't think so
14:40 < tsarbomba> Trapdoor: back to work
14:40 < tsarbomba> Apooti_: back to work
14:41 < tsarbomba> enix: back to work
14:41 < tsarbomba> mtnielsen: back to work
14:41 < tsarbomba> cryptic1: back to work
14:41 < Apooti_> tsarbomba, i still need help configuring that stupid vNIC so i can actually get an entire ESXi host back to work
14:41 < enix> Apooti_: you wouldn't know anyway :P
14:41 < enix> tsarbomba: no.
14:41  * tsarbomba leaps at enix
14:41 < enix> tsarbomba: actually you're right i should but ceebs doctor who is on
14:42 < tsarbomba> what's a ceeb
14:42 < Apooti_> enix, valid point
14:43 < Apooti_> then again, i have all traffic monitored
14:44 < Apooti_> seriously now, how the fuck do i disconnect a VM's NIC from vSwitchX and connect it to DVS Y via the direct CLI
14:44 < Apooti_> i can see all the DVS's via "esxcfg-vswitch -l" and all the VMs that are connected to them but i can only see that vSwitch X exists and can't see the connections
14:45 < Apooti_> also pretty sure i can only manipulate physical nics with esxcfg-vswitch
14:53 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Welp, it finally happened. I got the facebook version of reddit. And I am sad.
14:53 < enix> SysAdminGoneCraZ: I feel you bro
14:56 < Bru-> morn
14:57 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Bru-, Ditto. (Ghost theme plays)
14:57 < Bru-> SysAdminGoneCraZ: , Datto. (Transylvanian Waltz plays)
14:57 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> lol
14:58 < Bru-> :D
14:58 < Bru-> i do love that piece though
15:01 < arlion[h]> Good Morning
15:02 < Bru-> gut dag
15:05 <@JollyRgrs> SysAdminGoneCraZ: fb version of reddit?
15:05 <@JollyRgrs> dowhat/
15:05 <@JollyRgrs> ?
15:05 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> JollyRgrs, You haven't seen the new one?
15:07  * JollyRgrs doesn't reddit
15:07 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> JollyRgrs, So you just stumbled upon this place by accident? lol
15:08 <@JollyRgrs> google
15:08 <@JollyRgrs> i was googling for halps, for irc channel halps
15:08 <@JollyRgrs> this came up
15:08 <@JollyRgrs> been here ever since
15:08 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Good Guy Google, always doing the needful.
15:11 < alazare619> nothing like waking up and having die-a-re-ah
15:11 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> cha cha cha!
15:12 < corn266> Protip: stick a butt plug up there to stop the flow of diarrhea
15:13 <@JollyRgrs> corn266: OMG that reminds me
15:13 < asimon> Good morning my friends
15:13 < asimon> I missed you all
15:13 <@JollyRgrs> back in high school (yes, high school)... a male friend told a female friend, who had to go pee, to shove a cork up her butt... he was a bright student, but seemingly knew not about female anatomy
15:14 < corn266> rip
15:14 < ihre> heh, https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/04/monkey-selfie-lawsuit-finally-ends-court-affirms-adorable-macaque-cant-sue/
15:14 <+TuxedoJack> JollyRgrs: reminds me of an episode of OITNB
15:14 <+TuxedoJack> "Man, I thought you had a hole inside a hole, like a cave system!"
15:16 <@JollyRgrs> btw, happy belated, TuxedoJack
15:17 < tsarbomba> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41mWA3QKT5L._SL500_AC_SS350_.jpg
15:18 < Casteil> ihre: that's some supremely stupid shit
15:18 < Casteil> thanks PETA, for wasting everyone's valuable time
15:18 < Casteil> and mine for having read that stupid shit
15:21 <@JollyRgrs> best line was last line
15:21 <@JollyRgrs> "Ars was not able to reach Naruto"
15:25 <+giant_it_burrit> believe it
15:25 < alazare619> so i discovered roseanne is back on tv
15:25 < alazare619> this is exactly how i imagined being an adult would be like 20 ish years ago
15:26 < tsarbomba> my condolences
15:26 < nerobro> hah.  It's.. much like the original.
15:26 < nerobro> remarkably like the original.
15:27 < felda> alazare619
15:27 < alazare619> i only watched 1 episode
15:27 < felda> ur mum gay
15:27 < alazare619> but i honestly enjoyed it
15:27 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> McDonaldsWiFi, Status update?
15:28 < felda> those feels when you scratch your eye with and eyelash
15:28 < alazare619> tv needs more of that kind of stuff and less reality shows and other such trash
15:28 < alazare619> less snooky more roseanne
15:29 < nerobro> it does.
15:29 < nerobro> but reality tv is magnitudes cheaper to produce.
15:29 < nerobro> And there's essentially no limit on productino volume
15:30 < nerobro> Remember, there was a reality TV show, where the contenstants never saw each other.  Solitary...
15:30 <@JollyRgrs> the blame goes on the american viewers who watch that crap and give them an audience
15:30 <@JollyRgrs> if it rated poorly, they'd stop doing reality tv
15:30 < nerobro> "everything" rates poorly now.
15:30 < nerobro> good shares in the past used to be "half" the tv audiance.
15:30 < nerobro> now, 5% is good
15:31 <@JollyRgrs> used to be only nbc/cbs/abc to compete with
15:32 <@JollyRgrs> audience is spread thin with cable channels and worse with online streaming
15:32 < alazare619> would you call that entertainment creep?
15:32 < alazare619> s/creep/sprawl
15:32 <+layer-eight> alazare619 meant: "would you call that entertainment sprawl?"
15:40 <+TuxedoJack> JollyRgrs: Thanks
15:40 < Bru-> morn folks
15:41 < Hatter> Do you guys trust Uptime Robot?
15:42 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Hatter, Sometimes. About as much as that guy who says he's always right, no matter what.
15:44 < DomLS3> god damned netsplits making me lose my +v
15:44 < DomLS3> this is unaceptable
15:45 < int0x1C8> back to work
15:48 < plop> .bofh
15:48 <+layer-eight> plop, BOFH says: fractal radiation jamming the backbone
15:48 < plop> .bofh
15:48 <+layer-eight> plop, BOFH says: Bad user karma.
15:48 < enix> woah calm down
15:48 < enix> you get one
15:48 < enix> you must use the first.
15:49 < plop> 2 in a row!
15:49 < enix> My PHP script just failed because of %s
15:49 < enix> .bofh
15:49 < felda> Through advanced text analysis I've discovered that cryptic1 is actually Ajit Pai
15:49 <+layer-eight> enix, BOFH says: Flourescent lights are generating negative ions. If turning them off doesn't work, take them out and put tin foil on the ends.
15:49 < enix> s/%s/Flourescent lights are generating negative ions. If turning them off doesn't work, take them out and put tin foil on the ends.
15:49 <+layer-eight> enix meant: "My PHP script just failed because of Flourescent lights are generating negative ions. If turning them off doesn't work, take them out and put tin foil on the ends."
15:49 < plop> .seen cryptic1
15:49 <+layer-eight> cryptic1 spoke in #reddit-sysadmin 1 hour 14 minutes 8 seconds ago. Message: oh thats smart
15:49 <@cryptic1> felda I said not doxing
15:49 <@cryptic1> s/not/no
15:49 <+layer-eight> cryptic1 meant: "felda I said no doxing"
15:50 < enix> felda is doxing?
15:50 < felda> shoot let me fix my statement
15:50 < felda> Through advanced text analysis I've found that cryptic1 is literally no one else except for maybe Ajit Pai
15:50 < int0x1C8> they see me doxxing.. they hatin
15:50 <@cryptic1> NO DOXING!
15:51 < felda> see that's different because I ruled out everyone else
15:51 < felda> that's different
15:51 < int0x1C8> significance p > 0.05
15:51 < enix> Hang on so there are Indian Americans and American Indians?
15:51 < enix> Doesnt that get confusing
15:51 < enix> When you condense it to just "indian"
15:52 < enix> cryptic1: plz confirm
15:52 < enix> Do you have an indian name like "blackfeet" or am I thinking of indians
15:52 < enix> See?
15:53 < humpaxx> enix: blackfeet?
15:54 < humpaxx> Why not call all of them Friday
15:55 < enix> s/Friday/George
15:55 <+layer-eight> humpaxx meant: "Why not call all of them George"
15:56 <@cryptic1> this convo is giving me eye cancer
15:56 <@cryptic1> paging DrGibby|
15:56 < Atro> dns
15:56 < humpaxx> Herr herr
15:56  * enix farts on DrStalker 
15:56 < enix> oops
15:56 < Hatter> SysAdminGoneCraZ: that wasn't a shot at me, was it?
15:56 <@cryptic1> you guys seriously have nothing better to do?
15:56 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Hatter, Negative
15:56 < Hatter> phew
15:56 <+DrGibby|> the fuck is going on here?
15:56 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> <3
15:56 < enix> cryptic1: I do but I dont want to do it
15:56 <+DrGibby|> http://quotes.rsysadmin.net/?127
15:57 < Atro> this bash explains felda's existence
15:57 < enix> Also Dave Chappelle re blackfeet
15:58 < humpaxx> How do i unfuck outlooks autocomplete if the ol´ delete it from the list with the red X-trick doesn´t work? only seem to be a problem with sending to a specific mailbox, and only when the mail is created by a different app through MAPI
15:58 < plop> delete the profile
15:58 < humpaxx> Im so confused by this i feel i should just move to iceland and become a goatbreeder/herder
15:58 < plop> and set it up again
15:58 < Atro> format c:
15:58 < plop> or what atro said
15:58 < humpaxx> plop: tried that multiple times
15:58 < humpaxx> Not formated it yet tho
15:58 < Atro> gpo it
15:59 < humpaxx> What do you mean?
15:59 < humpaxx> Thats about as vague as "Use powershell"
15:59 < Atro> ye
16:00 < Atro> idk,im a network admin
16:00 < humpaxx> So you´re saying i should just connect to the ansible server and push a new config via SSH to the switch the user is connected to?
16:01 < humpaxx> Like thats going to help :p
16:01 < humpaxx> Its problably DNS
16:01 < Atro> nah, its a windows issue
16:01 < Atro> please make ticket to winderz dept
16:01 < plop> or /j #windows
16:02 < felda> atro is the wart on the shaft of humanity
16:02 < Atro> felda: fuck off u toaster with netfilter
16:03 < felda> atro has a loose bonnet and lets anyone take a ride  ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
16:03 < Atro> felda: didja farm bitcoins off ur pfsense yet
16:04 < felda> nah everyone knows there are better ways to farm buttcoins
16:06 < Nightcinder> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/04/google-chromes-major-redesign-shows-a-lighter-rounder-ui/
16:07 < Nightcinder> 'major' redesign
16:07 < Atro> oogle is planning a massive redesign of it
16:07 < Atro> MASSIVE
16:07 < Atro> M A S S I V E
16:07 < Nightcinder> 'slightly rounder'
16:07 < Nightcinder> reminds me more of firefox
16:07 < SynMonger> that's what I was thinking
16:07 < mijndert> design language is similar to the new google mail ui
16:08 <+DrGibby|> god dammit
16:09 <+DrGibby|> first sip of coffee and I burnt the shit out of my tongue
16:09 < Nightcinder> i'm on my third cup
16:09 <+DrGibby|> congrats
16:09 < enix> redesign is zz
16:09 < ihre> but still doesnt block videos from starting to play automatically, so fuck that redesign :3
16:09 < Nightcinder> DrGibby|:
16:09 < Nightcinder> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/04/google-chromes-major-redesign-shows-a-lighter-rounder-ui/
16:09 < enix> Gotta love a good firefox-lookalike
16:09 < Nightcinder> oops
16:09 < Nightcinder> wrong copy
16:09 < felda> DrGibby| and ravioli are probably the greatest people in this channel
16:09 <+DrGibby|> d'aww felda <3
16:10 < Nightcinder> 8:54 am	On FedEx vehicle for delivery		CANTON, OH
16:10 < Nightcinder> pixel hype
16:10 < Casteil> Nightcinder: did you get the XL @ 150 off? :P
16:11 < Nightcinder> work paid for my 2xl
16:12 < Casteil> nice
16:12 < Casteil> my old nexus 5x died but something good came out of it
16:12 < Nightcinder> my xl's screen shattered
16:12 < Casteil> finally got a phone stipend from work :)
16:12 < Nightcinder> i managed to get work to buy me an expensive phone because i'm not on their plan
16:13 < Nightcinder> no stipend yet, though
16:13 < Nightcinder> still working on it
16:13 < grumplestiltzkin> DrGibby|: get you one of these, pour the coffee, put in just a tiny bit of ice, to bring it down to not-burn temp, then it stays right around that temp until either you go home or finish it  https://www.amazon.com/Silver-Buffalo-NL112395-Stainless-20-Ounces/dp/B01N1UAOWD
16:13 < Casteil> and my phone stipend exceeds my monthly bill + the financed phone amount lol
16:13 < Casteil> (stipend is $40, phone+plan is only about $34/mo)
16:13 <+DrGibby|> grumplestiltzkin: I have a yeti
16:13 < grumplestiltzkin> this is the same thing but <$20 instead of $50
16:14 <+DrGibby|> yeah, but I have one already
16:14 <+DrGibby|> :P
16:14 < grumplestiltzkin> but if you have one.  like, ok, put a little ice in sillypants
16:14 <+DrGibby|> I do!
16:14 < SynMonger> my job will only pay for a phone if it's absolutely necessary and the plan they put you on is awful
16:14 < grumplestiltzkin> you should know better
16:14 < Nightcinder> i'd be happy with a $50 stipend
16:14 <+DrGibby|> I know :(
16:14 < Nightcinder> or $30
16:14 < Nightcinder> SynMonger: yeah my work's plan is 60gb shared between 20+ users
16:14 < Nightcinder> so i'll keep my unlim data
16:14 < Casteil> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BD0R8KU < I have one of these, utterly spillproof :)
16:15 < mijndert> I have 20GB + unlimited minutes + iPhone 7 from work
16:15 < SynMonger> it's like 150 minutes, no free texting, and no data included
16:15 < SynMonger> something out of the early 2000's
16:15 < Nightcinder> i have a thermos and two mugs
16:15 < Casteil> Nightcinder: haha yeah, when I told my boss to contact me via email because my phone was dead he was like "...do you want to come on our plan or get a $40 stipend?"
16:15 < Casteil> >40 stipend plox
16:16 < Hatter> mijndert: braggart
16:16 < SynMonger> i'm on project fi, so $40 stipend would be great
16:16 < Casteil> I've been using my personal phone for company email/texting and occasional calls for the last 1.5+ years
16:16 < Casteil> at my expense :P
16:16 < Nightcinder> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005PO9T44/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LA67TM4/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
16:16 < Nightcinder> i have these
16:17 < Nightcinder> and a $40 travel mug that lowers temp of coffee and keeps it there for 5 hours
16:17 < Bru-> lol
16:17 < humpaxx> Casteil: i did the oposite, cut my landline and my personal cell and just use the work one
16:17 < Nightcinder> >landline
16:17 < Nightcinder> what year is it
16:17 < humpaxx> Nightcinder: ikr
16:18 < felda> Anyone else using 1.1.1.1?
16:18 < Casteil> I don't like the idea of being on my company plan; just adds extra PITA if I ever leave
16:18 < felda> Gotta make sure cryptic1 can't control me
16:18 <@cryptic1> too late
16:18 < Bru-> humpaxx: guy i know ported his personal cell to google voice, then used his work cell only
16:18 <@cryptic1> you are under our control felda
16:18 < Nightcinder> 8.8.8.8 was laggy and bad for me
16:18 <@cryptic1> all your dns belongs to us
16:18 < Nightcinder> i switched back to google
16:18 < Nightcinder> is 1.1.1.1 better?
16:19 < Nightcinder> i kept getting DNS timeouts
16:19 < felda> Nightcinder 1.1.1.1 is the hot new DNS on the block
16:19 < humpaxx> Casteil: It adds jobs security, they obviously can´t fire you if your workphone is also your personal phone. You´re as safe as a swedish municipal employee
16:19 < felda> DNS over HTTPS
16:19 < Casteil> lol
16:19 < Bru-> haha
16:21 <+TuxedoJack> Get them to get you your own phone
16:21 <+TuxedoJack> I miss having 2x Touch Pro 2s
16:21 < Nightcinder> fuck two fisting
16:21 <+TuxedoJack> 1 Sprint for personal, 1 VZW for work
16:21 < humpaxx> And those guys are like a tree, they´ll root and never leave
16:21 < Nightcinder> i would never use two phones
16:21 < Nightcinder> one would just forward to the other
16:21 < humpaxx> Nightcinder: like a loop?
16:22 < Nightcinder> yes
16:22 < Nightcinder> infinite loop  when someone calls
16:22 < Nightcinder> they are stuck in purgatory
16:22 <+TuxedoJack> Just send them to the Sales Call Abyss
16:22 < FenJai> Why is 1.1.1.1 better than google's 8.8.8.8 ?
16:22 < Nightcinder> NO TRACKING BRO
16:23 < FenJai> Are you sure ?
16:23 < ihre> well 1.1.1.1 also saves your queries, 'for 1 day', and you still dont know what they use that for
16:23 < Nightcinder> ads
16:23 < Nightcinder> selling your data
16:23 < Hatter> cool links guys, but what is the best stainless steel water bottle of them all?
16:23 < ihre> but 1.1.1.1 supports dns over https/tls iirc
16:24 < ihre> so you can use it with dnscrypt-proxy for example
16:24 < mijndert> Hatter: for me it's the Dopper
16:24 < FenJai> Is there a better DNS than cloudflares 1.1.1.1 ?
16:24 < Hatter> mijndert: I want the BEST. Cost is not a factor.
16:24 < ihre> FenJai: you never know :P
16:24 < int0x1C8> I love my onion news desk calendar
16:24 < int0x1C8> today's headline: Man Pretty Cocky Since Beating Cancer
16:24 < ihre> FenJai: i use dnscrypt-proxy with one a (supposedly) no logging upstream resolver
16:25 < FenJai> Whos the company ihre ?
16:25 < ihre> lemme check
16:25 < mijndert> Hatter: just stating what I think is the best stainless steel bottle
16:25 < Hatter> mijndert: it's not a very popular choice on amazon. Did you even do your research?
16:25 < ihre> FenJai: i use the dnscrypt.eu-nl resolver
16:25 < mijndert> Hatter: yes
16:26 < ihre> https://github.com/dyne/dnscrypt-proxy/blob/master/dnscrypt-resolvers.csv
16:26 < mijndert> Hatter: there's such a thing as "personal preference", it might differ from what the amazon hivemind thinks is the "best"
16:26 < ihre> also https://dnscrypt.info/public-servers
16:26 < Hatter> mijndert: that looks like plastic man
16:27 < mijndert> Hatter: 'Dopper Steel'
16:27 < Hatter> I don't know man, it doesn't seem very impressive
16:28 < mijndert> whatever floats your boat :)
16:28 < FenJai> Looks cool ihre. Do you use it personally ?
16:28 < ihre> iirc 1.1.1.1 is also a 'research' project with icann
16:29 < abakedapplepie> im in a real pickle
16:29 < abakedapplepie> this is the second server to have this issue: https://imgur.com/oR9TPqe
16:29 < abakedapplepie> wtf is going on
16:29 < ihre> ehh, apnic, https://labs.apnic.net/?p=1127
16:29 < abakedapplepie> has anyone seen server do that?!
16:29 < abakedapplepie> its driving my bonkers
16:29 < abakedapplepie> absolute bonkers
16:29 < abakedapplepie> its like explorer gets halfway through initializing and then says "ah fuck it"
16:29 < ihre> FenJai: yup, i run dnscrypt-proxy on my router at home, and on my work laptop, pointing my nameserver to 127.0.0.1
16:34 < int0x1C8> kill explorer, then start it again?
16:40 < Nightcinder> kill it with fire
16:50 < Hatter> abakedapplepie: did you know shakespeare coined that phrase
16:51 < abakedapplepie> ah fuck it?
16:51 < Hatter> in a pickle
16:51 < abakedapplepie> oh
16:51 < abakedapplepie> hes coined a lot of phrases
16:51 < Hatter> name three
16:51 < Hatter> haha busted you trying to look clever
16:51 < Hatter> you can stop googling
16:51 < abakedapplepie> dude i have the memory of a goldfish, i cant remember what i ate for breakfast
16:51 <@killdash9> he coined a whole lot of phrases.
16:52 < Hatter> killdash9: go on
16:52 <@killdash9> all that glitters isn't gold?
16:52 < FenJai> He coined the phrase "coined a phrase"
16:52 < abakedapplepie> lol google autocompletes "phrases att" to "phrases attributed to shakespeare"
16:52 <@killdash9> um, dead as a doornail
16:52 < corn266> "Trailer park girls go round the outside, round the outside, round the oustide" -- shakespeare
16:52 <@killdash9> Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war!
16:52 < grumplestiltzkin> abakedapplepie: what did you eat for breafrast?
16:52 <@killdash9> wild goose chase
16:52 < abakedapplepie> grumplestiltzkin: i dont remember
16:52 < Hatter> abakedapplepie: I haven't bothered to check, is killdash copying these phrases from the first link?
16:53 < asimon> I too read reddit
16:53 < grumplestiltzkin> abakedapplepie: what does your breath smell like?
16:53 < JFDkthx> wild google chase
16:53  * killdash9 is a top donator to the local Shakespeare troupe...
16:53 < Hatter> oooh la dee da
16:53 <@killdash9> :P
16:53 < abakedapplepie> grumplestiltzkin: ass
16:53 < abakedapplepie> rip
16:53 <@killdash9> I'd expect all of those to be at any google link
16:54 < abakedapplepie> man some of these i didnt know
16:54 < abakedapplepie> eat me out of house and home
16:54 < abakedapplepie> dog will have his day
16:54 < abakedapplepie> break the ice
16:54 < JFDkthx> s/ of house and home/.
16:54 <+layer-eight> abakedapplepie meant: "eat me out."
16:54 < grumplestiltzkin> killdash9: theres a 'shakespeare in the park' group in DFW too, they usually do 2 plays in the heat of summer, then the youth group does one in like september/octoberish.  Its a pretty good time - we started going maybe 5 years ago. I haven't seen some of this in  20 years
16:55 < Hatter> was I even right about the pickle thing?
16:55 <@killdash9> Austin has a minature model of the Old Globe where they put on plays 3-4 times a year.
16:55 < abakedapplepie> yes, you were
16:55 < grumplestiltzkin> 'the park' they use is in teh ghe-tt-hooooooo
16:55 < SynMonger> half the fun is making it in/out alive
16:55 < Hatter> grumplestiltzkin: don't be racist please
16:56 < SynMonger> what, like oak cliff or something?
16:56 < grumplestiltzkin> Hatter: bars on the windows aren't racist
16:56 < grumplestiltzkin> yeah, tennis court (?)
16:56 < grumplestiltzkin> er .. tennis somehting, hold up
16:57 < AnimalFarmPig> can confirm, went to that shakespeare in the park with a date as a teenager. Was hella hood.
16:57 <@killdash9> Baby Old Globe: http://www.dailytexanonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_main_image/public/images/2015/10/Curtain1.jpg
16:57 < grumplestiltzkin> www.shakespearedallas.org Samuel Grand Park - 1500 Tenison
16:57 < AnimalFarmPig> bars on windows, fake roses for sale in convenience stores
16:57 < JFDkthx> nice
16:57 < ravioli> mmmm
16:58 < ravioli> chore boys and fake roses
16:58 < AnimalFarmPig> ^
16:58 < AnimalFarmPig> people there must be really into cleaning and decorating...
16:58 < grumplestiltzkin> if you stop anywhere dressed like you are going to shakespeare, you will be asked for money
16:58 <@killdash9> and view from the box seat we usually get: https://i.imgur.com/78NIO5B.jpg
16:58 < felda> uh oh
16:59 < AnimalFarmPig> neat
16:59 < SynMonger> grumplestiltzkin: man, that close to fair park... you weren't kidding
16:59 < felda> my firewall filters have picked up something dangerous
16:59 < felda> says here that killdash9 repeatedly went to gay.com
16:59 < Hatter> felda: not that there's anything wrong with that
16:59 <@killdash9> felda: if enjoying an evening of theatre is the cause, well, shit, you got me.
16:59 < felda> Hatter it redirected to cryptic1.io
17:00 < felda> we all know cryptic1.io is basically the new darkweb
17:00 < felda> I was able to order a fully automatic nerf gun with a large capacity mag and paper towel tube scope
17:00 < felda> DANGEROUS
17:01 < grumplestiltzkin> felda: what kind of transmission does your vehicle have?
17:01 < felda> full auto
17:02 < grumplestiltzkin> that is now classified as an  'assault vehicle', prepare for ban
17:02 < Trapdoor> s/full auto/family
17:02 <+layer-eight> felda meant: "family"
17:02 < mtnielsen> a family assault vehicle?
17:03 < mtnielsen> that sounds even worse
17:03 < SynMonger> as god intended
17:03 < Trapdoor> why not?
17:03 < Trapdoor> is that a vehicle that assaults family
17:03 < AnimalFarmPig> nobody needs a fully semi-automatic transmission
17:03 < Trapdoor> or a vehicle housing a family that assaults?
17:03 < mtnielsen> a family assaults vehicle in turbulent.. juice.. family
17:04 < Trapdoor> AnimalFarmPig, what just because it's black and aggressive?
17:04 < AnimalFarmPig> Trapdoor: we need some common sense laws to keep these vehicles of war off our streets
17:05 < Trapdoor> you can't make them illegal AnimalFarmPig
17:05 < rhqq> O_O i have no idea what do you guys mean
17:05 < SynMonger> meme it up
17:05 < Trapdoor> if you outlaw fully black semi-automatic transvehicles, then only outlaws will carry fully black semi-automatic transvehicles
17:05 < Trapdoor> I think we're done here
17:06 < AnimalFarmPig> Trapdoor: look at Mozambique. Vehicle ownership rate is way way lower than Canada or Europe and they don't have these problems
17:06 < grumplestiltzkin> ^^^
17:06 < grumplestiltzkin> obviously the assualt vehicles are the issue
17:06 < Trapdoor> rhqq, did you just assume our gender?
17:06 < grumplestiltzkin> we need htem off the streets
17:06 < Trapdoor> s/gender/genders/
17:06 <+layer-eight> Trapdoor meant: "rhqq, did you just assume our genders?"
17:07 < grumplestiltzkin> Trapdoor: ZI don't use 'our' as zhy second person plurel pronoun. please respect
17:08 < Nightcinder> "Amazon Key expands to deliver packages inside your car
17:08 < Nightcinder> Another option for those skeptical about in-home deliveries."
17:08 < Nightcinder> much better
17:08 < rhqq> Trapdoor: i wasnt talking to you, stfu :E
17:09 < Trapdoor> rude
17:10 < rhqq> this is the only way to talk to these weirdos anyway
17:15 < onenerdyguy> mornin
17:16 < FenJai> Does anyone here use a standing desk Z frame thing ?
17:18  * meowschwitz scries into 2025
17:18 < meowschwitz> "There are only 6 genders!"
17:19 < Nightcinder> Z frame thing?
17:19 < mr_noobs> I heard Quad9 DNS are quite good?
17:19 < mr_noobs> (late to the party I know)
17:19 < madvillain> mr_noobs, last I heard about it it was kinda slow
17:21 < mr_noobs> According to some metrics I saw, they are only second to OpenDNS (and they work well at home)
17:21 < mr_noobs> (well, first 1.1.1.1, then OpenDNS and then Quad9)
17:22 <+A-KO> no idea, I'm using cloudflare's DNS servers so meh :P
17:23 < hxcsp> idk i compile custom host files
17:23 < hxcsp> SECURITY THROUGH OBSCURITY BITCHES
17:27 < madvillain> next level right there
17:27 < mr_noobs> I personally don't even use DNS nor a browser, I walk through my mental InterWebs palace and recreate the webpages I have seen on the computers of lesser beings in my mind
17:36  * DrGibby| is listening to Opiuo - Creamy Taco from the album Slurp and Giggle on Spotify
17:40 < felda> anyone else wake up and have 1 eye hurt just a little
17:40 < felda> like it got scratched while you were sleeping?
17:40 < felda> ooof really distracts me
17:41 < tsarbomba> "scratched"
17:41 < corn266> No i usually wash my hands after shitting
17:41 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> felda, internal or external?
17:41 < tsarbomba> it's the ocular super-aids
17:41 < felda> SysAdminGoneCraZ my third eye no doubt
17:43 < SpookyCrisp> [10:57:34] <cryptic1> #reddit-sysadmin has been cancelled
17:44 <@cryptic1> #reddit-sysadmin has been cancelled
17:44 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> felda, Yeah, I been there.
17:44 <@cryptic1> please turn in your badges
17:44 <@cryptic1> and your wallets
17:44 < linuxdood> cryptic1, no
17:45 < admiralspark> cryptic1: one of those days eh
17:46 <@cryptic1> yes
17:47 < corn266> linuxdood: did you have any issues moving from rhel 7.4 to 7.5?
17:47 < linuxdood> corn266, in my tests no, havent deployed to prod yet, next month
17:49 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> linuxdood, If you haven't run into issues, you didn't upgrade correctly.
17:49 < linuxdood> SysAdminGoneCraZ, \0/ i patched my admin servers and didnt have any problems... what i miss?
17:51 < corn266> are they graphical.target or multi-user.target
17:51 < linuxdood> corn266, multi user, dont use a gui
17:51 < linuxdood> corn266, cli only
17:51 < corn266> cli worked fine on my machine, but as soon as I flipped to graphical XServer would shit the bed on shutdown and cause kernel panicks
17:52 < corn266> or I suspect XServer since it only occured in graphical
17:52 < linuxdood> corn266, bummer, any data on the kernel dumps?
17:52 < corn266> I *really* don't want to reproduce the issue after setting the version to 7.4 and rehardening the system
17:53 < linuxdood> corn266, i understand that
17:53 < mkillebrew> Ubuntu 18.04 drops on the 26th, along with some sweet Nike Vapormaxes
17:53 < audia5> hello folks
17:53 < corn266> Though might be able to spin up a VM and send them over
17:53 < linuxdood> corn266, all good man, im just curious, about to run an update now SysAdminGoneCraZ
17:54 < linuxdood> SysAdminGoneCraZ, check PM
17:54 < SpookyCrisp> SysAdminGoneCraZ, Don't do it.
17:54 < SpookyCrisp> SysAdminGoneCraZ, He's sending nudes.
17:54 < linuxdood> SysAdminGoneCraZ, nah just of SpookyCrisp small dik
17:54 < audia5> woud you like to have a scuplture like this inyour town http://i65.tinypic.com/2wqdan9.jpg
17:55 < SpookyCrisp> audia5, Sure.
17:55 < SpookyCrisp> audia5, Better idea. I'll put it on cryptic1's lawn.
17:56 <@cryptic1>  /kick SpookyCrisp BANT!
17:56 < voidstar> bunt
17:56 < SpookyCrisp> I need a burn heal!
17:57 < linuxdood> corn266, just did an update, SysAdminGoneCraZ, no issues
17:58 < tsarbomba> someone asked for cryptic1 nudes?
17:59 < SpookyCrisp> tsarbomba, Yes.
17:59 < SpookyCrisp> It was linuxdood
17:59 <@cryptic1> no
17:59 < onenerdyguy> oh god
17:59 < tsarbomba> step into my office nude-seekers
18:00 < linuxdood> actually cryptic1 it was SpookyCrisp who was asking
18:00 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> linuxdood, I was kidding. I know nothing about RHEL lol
18:00 < linuxdood> SysAdminGoneCraZ, ah, LOLs i was worried like what did i miss
18:00 < SpookyCrisp> felda posts nudes to felda.io
18:01 < Hatter> SysAdminGoneCraZ: I covered this yesterday, but Pizza Hat in Iran stole the Redhat logo. Now you know one thing.
18:01 < meowschwitz> tbh redhat needs almost as much bombing as iran does
18:01 < Hatter> you can't say that sort of thing these days
18:02 < linuxdood> meowschwitz, Hatter and like microshit doesnt?
18:02 < Hatter> hey come on now
18:02 < linuxdood> redmond should be blown off the face of the earth
18:02 < meowschwitz> linuxdood: Redmond? I'd go with full catapult
18:02 < Hatter> you don't mean that
18:02 < meowschwitz> I am in general an advocate of catapult-based problem solving
18:02 < linuxdood> meowschwitz, MicrosuxHQ
18:02 < SpookyCrisp> I just love felda.io.
18:02 < linuxdood> SpookyCrisp, u would love a retarded site
18:02 < felda> felda.io is the webs original homepage
18:03 < linuxdood> explains alot
18:03 < corn266> linuxdood: the issue only arises in graphical mode, so if you're in cli then you should be fine
18:03 < linuxdood> corn266, yeah, that sux, must be soemthing incopatible iwth xserver, have you tried another GUI? like gnome?
18:03 < corn266> I am on gnome
18:03 < linuxdood> well damn
18:03 < corn266> and have to be, per DoD guidance
18:03 < linuxdood> corn266, sounds like a ticket to RHEL
18:04 < SpookyCrisp> linuxdood, A ticket to hell you say?
18:04 < Hatter> The DoD endorses gnome?
18:04 < linuxdood> SpookyCrisp, only if ur mom, cryptic1 and felda are there.
18:04 < SpookyCrisp> My mom loves Jesus. So...
18:04 < corn266> It's the only one they put the time into determining how to harden
18:05 < linuxdood> Hatter, i had th same thoughts like really gnome at dod
18:05 < SpookyCrisp>  Metapod!
18:05 < tsarbomba> i remember when felda.io had nothing but this on the front page: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wnE4vF9CQ4
18:05 <+layer-eight> YouTube Leek Spin by 2006-09-26T02:57:58.000Z (duration: 2:14) on Tue Sep 26 09:57:58 UTC 2006, 2006-09-26T02:57:58.000Z views
18:08 < JFDkthx> corn266: whats the issue you're having?
18:09 < JFDkthx> Hatter: stop asking for kicks, thats really childish
18:09 < JFDkthx> cryptic1: you shouldnt be reinforcing that behavior either.
18:09 < SpookyCrisp> 19:24:42 JFDkthx | im always prepared for the event that i get ops
18:09 < SpookyCrisp> 19:24:45 JFDkthx | i have a plan.
18:09 < SpookyCrisp> 19:25:45 Hatter | I wonder how I fit into that plan
18:09 < SpookyCrisp> 19:25:52 JFDkthx | /kick hatter
18:09 < SpookyCrisp> 19:26:13 Hatter | well good thing for me there's absolutely no chance that will ever happen!
18:09 < SpookyCrisp> 19:26:13 <-- | cryptic1 has kicked Hatter (at the request of JFDkthx (pfsense))
18:09 < Hatter> JFDkthx: no childish is the tantrum you're currently having
18:10 < JFDkthx> SpookyCrisp: he deserved it
18:10 < ThatOneRoadie> fight fight fight kiss kiss
18:10 < ThatOneRoadie> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/800/104/a13.gif
18:10 < tsarbomba> this is just the foreplay
18:11 < corn266> JFDkthx: after upgrading to rhel 7.5, any attempt to shutdown the system (except using the power button) sends rhel into kernel panick
18:11 <@cryptic1> JFDkthx, I am not the one making the requests
18:11 <@cryptic1> JFDkthx, take it up with your boss Hatter
18:11 < corn266> JFDkthx: also multiple watchdog alerts of hard locks on CPU #x during regular usage
18:12 < DomLS3> eww
18:12 < DomLS3> linuxdood is here
18:12 < SpookyCrisp> Kek
18:12 < corn266> linuxdood works in cli, not gui
18:12 < DomLS3> this channel is now in official +df mode for dumpsterfire
18:12 < corn266> cli is not affected
18:12 <+DrGibby|> why is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmtzQCSh6xk in my suggested videos?
18:12 <+layer-eight> YouTube Numa Numa by 2006-12-11T17:27:21.000Z (duration: 1:40) on Tue Dec 12 00:27:21 UTC 2006, 2006-12-11T17:27:21.000Z views
18:12 < ThatOneRoadie> so
18:13 < ThatOneRoadie> any attempt to shut down results in kernel panic, except using the power button or cli
18:13 < JFDkthx> corn266: you open a case yet
18:13 < corn266> JFDkthx: nah, figured someone else would. Was wondering if anyone else had the issue, though
18:13 < ThatOneRoadie> corn266: vmware tools installed?
18:13 < JFDkthx> im not seeing it on linux desktops. and we are "hardened"
18:14 < corn266> This is on a physical machine, not vm
18:14 < ThatOneRoadie> hmm, where does the panic start
18:14 < ThatOneRoadie> first line, something like kernel BUG at kernel/sched_rt.c:474!
18:15 < corn266> I'm starting up a vm to reproduce the issue, cause y'all can get fucked if I'm going to break that machine again
18:15 < ThatOneRoadie> lol
18:15 < gnupluslinux> you're criminals!
18:15 < gnupluslinux> all of you!
18:16 < scwizard> man
18:16 < scwizard> my boss is having awful luck
18:16 < scwizard> he has two devs under him
18:16 < scwizard> one of them, his wife is in labor right now
18:16 < scwizard> the other one fell off his motorcycle during the weekend and broke a rib
18:16 < grumplestiltzkin> ThatOneRoadie: try some kernel-xanax, should help the panic symptoms
18:16 < ThatOneRoadie> corn266: $10 says it doesn't happen in a VM
18:16 < voidstar> quick, hire scabs
18:17 <@cryptic1> a manager of 2 people
18:17 <@cryptic1> lol
18:17 < ThatOneRoadie> grumplestiltzkin: personally, I prefer kernel-valium
18:17 <@cryptic1> I think thats really called a team lead
18:17 < scwizard> cryptic1: the company is 12 people so
18:17 < scwizard> don't hate
18:17 < scwizard> startups gonna startup
18:17 <@cryptic1> too late hated
18:17 < scwizard> (also it's 3 people, I'm a people)
18:17 < voidstar> ThatOneRoadie, kernel-phenobarbital
18:17 < corn266> ThatOneRoadie: agreed
18:17 < ThatOneRoadie> /nick cryptic1 hater1
18:18 <@hater1> hate hate hate hate hate.gif
18:19 <@hater1> paging JFDkthx
18:19 < cryptic1> Im the best MOD ever.
18:19 <@hater1> hehe
18:20 < voidstar> massively overhyped disappointment?
18:20 < ThatOneRoadie> hehehe
18:20 < ThatOneRoadie> cryptic1 is having fun with the nickserv ghost command :P
18:21 < voidstar> ic
18:21 < linuxdood> hater1, LOL
18:21 <@hater1> :P
18:21 < scwizard> linuxdood: he was hating on my boss for only having 3 people under him
18:21 < scwizard> at a 12 man company that's the entire tech part of the company though, he's the CTO lol
18:21 < cryptid1> there can be only 1!
18:21 < linuxdood> scwizard, he hates on everyone, its in his nature, hes like cranky
18:21 < linuxdood> !BOFH
18:21 < cryptid1> .bofh
18:21 <+layer-eight> cryptid1, BOFH says: Unoptimized hard drive
18:21 < linuxdood> cryptid1, lol that one
18:22 <@hater1> i hate unoptimized hard drives
18:22 < linuxdood> .bofh
18:22 <+layer-eight> linuxdood, BOFH says: According to Microsoft, it's by design
18:22 <@hater1> I hate by design
18:22 < cryptie1> this sounds like child porn crytpie1
18:23 <@hater1> easy now
18:23 <@hater1> i am at work
18:24 < scwizard> but yeah I'm sorta thinking of being like "hey I can do some light dev work since I know you're done a few men"
18:24 < scwizard> but idk if that's a good idea
18:24 < scwizard> i'm scared i'll embarrass myself if I do any dev work
18:25 < JFDkthx> huh?
18:25 < gnupluslinux> scwizard, u suck as a dev
18:25 < scwizard> JFDkthx: my boss has two devs. One's wife is in labor and the other fell off his motorcycle
18:25 < gnupluslinux> leave it to the reel bots
18:25 < JFDkthx> dont do it
18:26 < gnupluslinux> scwizard, what kinda dev? front end? back end? no end?
18:26 < JFDkthx> some final destination shit will happen
18:26 < scwizard> both do both
18:26 < gnupluslinux> we'll hate you either way
18:26 < JFDkthx> they are trying to get rid of all devs
18:26 < JFDkthx> bubble guts
18:26 < JFDkthx> uh oh
18:26 < scwizard> it's a startup laravel project, no need for multiple dev teams for now
18:26 < ThatOneRoadie> I mean, our hospital IT Team went from 2 SA's, 2 NetEng, 1 senior tech, 2 tech 2's, and 3 tech 1's, to 1 tech 1 in a week
18:26 < ThatOneRoadie> thanks to the flu and our quadravirulent vaccine not covering this year's big strain
18:26 < JFDkthx> ThatOneRoadie: dont fire them next time
18:28 < corn266> ThatOneRoadie: yep, vm worked just fine with no kernel panics. Whatever
18:28 < gnupluslinux> aw son of a bitch
18:28 < gnupluslinux> i thought we had vendor breakfast today but its a different day
18:29  * gnupluslinux grumbles about skipping breakfast
18:29 < JFDkthx> gnupluslinux: look on the bright side
18:29 < corn266> gnupluslinux: get an apple, they keep doctors away
18:29 < gnupluslinux> i want my breakfast burritos dammit
18:30 < JFDkthx> gnupluslinux: breakfast burritos are reserved to fridays
18:30 < JFDkthx> source: me, every friday
18:35 < ThatOneRoadie> corn266: check and upgrade the actual kernel then
18:35 < ThatOneRoadie> Ubuntu 16.04 had a similar issue with a number of older kernels: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1642739
18:37 < scwizard> i never got why ubuntu is so much more popular than debian is on servers
18:37 < scwizard> like it's a desktop distro imo
18:38 < grumplestiltzkin> you're a desktop distro
18:38 < scwizard> if you want a server distro that's backed by an actual company, get centos or RHEL
18:38 < scwizard> canonical isn't much of a company
18:39 < scwizard> canonical has like
18:39 < scwizard> 125m revenue lol
18:39 < scwizard> that's like literally 1/20th of redhat's
18:39 < scwizard> so yeah always try and use debian for everything if i can
18:40 < ThatOneRoadie> meh, why get a company-backed OS
18:40 < scwizard> because your legal department says you have to
18:40 < ThatOneRoadie> get whatever you're most comfortable servicing
18:40 < grumplestiltzkin> 125m is still a hefty chunk
18:41 < K0HAX-matrix> CentOS/RHEL FTW. :)
18:41 < ihre> ^
18:41 < K0HAX-matrix> Everything I build at work is CentOS, unless the vendor of some software wants us to use RHEL, then it's RHE
18:41 < scwizard> oh yeah that's another reason to use company backed os
18:41 < rhqq> meh, still prefer debian based ones...
18:41 < scwizard> if a vendor or client wants you to
18:42 < scwizard> but honestly I guess what it comes down to is
18:42 < scwizard> i don't like canonical's software
18:42 < scwizard> like their version of init that they were pushing for a while was crap
18:42 < K0HAX-matrix> We're building an Openshift cluster too, which is all RHEL
18:42 < ihre> rhev/ovirt, freeipa/idm, foreman+katello/satellite just make life so much easier
18:42 < scwizard> their stable versions are too old and their unstable versions are too unstable
18:43 < ThatOneRoadie> most of my security/badge/NVR Servers are hardened RHEL
18:43 < scwizard> and also I don't like how ubuntu is trying to sell to two communities at once
18:43 < Nightcinder> mine are 2012 r2
18:44 < ihre> im also thinking of just ditching the k8s cluster im working on in favor of openshift, the additional services make the latter a way easier multi-tenant platform
18:44 < scwizard> the debian community feels like a sysadmin community, like they're not going to introduce stability issues in to placate desktop users
18:44 < mkillebrew> how about Arch
18:45 < scwizard> arch is a fun toy
18:45 < rhqq> well, it feels like a buzz-kill to me since systemd, but.. lets not start the war
18:45 < K0HAX-matrix> you could always use LFS for servers. :P
18:46 < K0HAX-matrix> I wouldn't use any rolling release OS for a server
18:46 < scwizard> ( mkillebrew you probably know already but generally for work and such you want to use the same things everyone else is using to preserve your sanity)
18:46 < zer0def> rhqq: artix, then? you'll probably going to end up writing a lot of initscripts for aur packages, though
18:46 < rhqq> tried artix
18:46 < rhqq> community is... well
18:46 < rhqq> i dont feel really strong in bash, but their scripts were so fucking awful
18:46 < ThatOneRoadie> Arch Linux is like a kit airplane
18:46 < scwizard> ihre: I saw a couple of talks on openshift at a conference i was at recently
18:46 < rhqq> and intrudoced so many issues
18:46 < ThatOneRoadie> you spend hours and hours building it
18:47 < rhqq> that i gave up with it
18:47 < K0HAX-matrix> at least not yet
18:47 < ThatOneRoadie> and in the end you love it and it fits you perfectly
18:47 < scwizard> seems hard to into without throwing huge dollars at Red Hat Inc.
18:47 < ThatOneRoadie> and nobody else will touch your kit
18:47 < mkillebrew> Arch is alright, and you just build whateer you need once, then deploy with foreman or whathaveyou
18:47 < ihre> scwizard: i met with dan walsh ~2wks ago at a conf where he was talking about oc :P
18:47 < ihre> i like arch on my desktop/workstation :3
18:48 < mkillebrew> I'm all apple for my laptops
18:48 < mkillebrew> they're awesome and pretty
18:48 < scwizard> i use windows because i'm a pleb lol
18:48 < mkillebrew> gross
18:48 < scwizard> i know :(
18:49 < rhqq> macos used to bedamn good for work
18:49 < rhqq> when jobs was still alive
18:49 < rhqq> my macbook pro 8.1 had over a year of uptime
18:49 < scwizard> apple without jobs just isn't the same
18:49 < ravioli> it's still really good.
18:49 < rhqq> not nearly as stable
18:50 < ravioli> really? i haven't had any issues with mine
18:50 < ihre> scwizard: he mentioned https://github.com/projectatomic/buildah at that talk, it looks pretty sweet
18:50 < mkillebrew> how is it not good now
18:51 < rhqq> im talking about stability not features
18:51 < K0HAX-matrix> I run Fedora on my work laptop
18:51 < mkillebrew> I don't have stability issues
18:51 < ravioli> i've legit never had any stability issues on this 2015 macbook pro
18:51 < scwizard> i feel like you need to be pretty ambitious to have a reason to use oci containers
18:51 < scwizard> docker is pretty polished at this point
18:51 < mkillebrew> not really
18:52 < mkillebrew> you can't even make docker listen on a specific IP,I hogs 0.0.0.0
18:52 < mkillebrew> s/I/it
18:52 <+layer-eight> mkillebrew meant: "you can't even make docker listen on a specific itP,it hogs 0.0.0.0"
18:53 < scwizard> meh
18:53 < gnupluslinux> dont most things listen on 0.0.0.0
18:53 < scwizard> gnupluslinux: with most programs you can configure where they listen
18:53 < scwizard> which can be useful if you have multiple ips per host
18:53 <+giant_it_burrit> Men dont
18:53 < JFDkthx> gnupluslinux: everything i configure listens to 0.0.0.0
18:53 < mkillebrew> yes, like internal and external
18:54 < scwizard> i don't think it's a very big deal
18:54 < felda> ravioli is the chad of this channel
18:54 < gnupluslinux> could offload to firewall which is what i've had to do
18:54 < JFDkthx> s/ch/b
18:54 <+layer-eight> gnupluslinux meant: "could offload to firewall whib is what i've had to do"
18:54 < scwizard> since you can use a firewall and just map things to different ports
18:54 < JFDkthx> dammti
18:54 < felda> lmao
18:54 < felda> JFDkthx is the next incel killer
18:54 < gnupluslinux> JFDkthx,  just /part
18:55 < gnupluslinux> u lose
18:55 < JFDkthx> gnupluslinux: fite me
18:55 < ihre> well docker corp was one of the initiative takers for OCI iirc, besides rh, google and some other parties, so there is some merit to standardizing the format, and just a tarred rootfs + json which are both easily inspected (skopeo) seems like a nice step forward
18:55 < mkillebrew> yeah, let's have to use PAT for everything because dockerd can't just bind to the IP you specify
18:55  * gnupluslinux slaps JFDkthx with a mildly energetic trout
18:55 < gnupluslinux> hater1, plz2b bant JFDkthx
18:55  * JFDkthx pushes gnupluslinux into tsarbomba
18:56 < mkillebrew> DTR and UCP are also complete garbage
18:56 < JFDkthx> i guess they give anyone sudo these days
18:56 < scwizard> ihre: yeah it is, but walking ahead of the crowd requires ambition
18:56 < ihre> or for other shit like docker in docker with a mounted socket from the host
18:56 < ihre> ew
18:56 < ihre> ... like gitlab builds its containers :p
18:57 < ihre> 3 options, psa: all 3 allow privilege escalation :p
18:57 < gnupluslinux> mkillebrew, https://docs.docker.com/v17.09/engine/userguide/networking/default_network/binding/ ?
18:57 < gnupluslinux> >When you invoke docker run you can use either -p IP:host_port:container_port or -p IP::port to specify the external interface for one particular binding.
18:57 < corn266> ThatOneRoadie: I did an install of 7.5, which also caused the kernel panic. So 7.4->7.5 and fresh 7.5 both caused the panic.
18:58 < gnupluslinux> kinda dumb that you gotta do it per container but there you g
18:58 < gnupluslinux> go
18:58 < ihre> or https://github.com/genuinetools/img which also looks promising
18:58 < gnupluslinux> >genuinetools
18:59  * scwizard wonders if they should have just assumed mkillebrew didn't know what they were talking about when they said that docker wasn't polished at this point
18:59 < JFDkthx> ur a fukking genuine tool
19:00 < ihre> idgaf about the name, if that allows for building unprivileged containers, she could name it whatever she feels like, the result is what counts :P
19:01 < ravioli> felda: no u
19:01 < scwizard> damn why didn't i buy RHT in 2016
19:01 < scwizard> oh well
19:01 < scwizard> anyways I need to get back to worky
19:01 < felda> <3
19:01 < ihre> scwizard: while docker might be polished, the use of it isnt, as long as developers ship their shit running as root, its still a turd :p
19:02 < ihre> ah 2 late :D
19:02 < mijndert> ihre: agreed, god awful to see so many off the shelf dockerfiles run their shit as root
19:02 < Gencade> hi guys
19:02 < mkillebrew> gnupluslinux: Either that's new or it doesn't work
19:02 < ravioli> hello Gencade
19:03 < mkillebrew> I don't know which, I'd have to look at my notes
19:03 < Gencade> How are you doing ravioli, are you having a good week?
19:03 < SpookyCrisp> Gencade, Where tf you been?
19:03 < Gencade> I've been around here a bit, off and on due to $COMPANY selling off one of it's franchise sectors
19:03 < Gencade> Been doing some driving SpookyCrisp
19:03 < felda> hot take: Coleslaw is bad and should be banned much like pickles
19:03 < Gencade> getting our things
19:04 < Gencade> wbu SpookyCrisp
19:04 < ihre> mijndert: and the 'meh' mentality surrounding it? "i dont create unsecure/unsafe software, so why should i bother"
19:04 < ihre> s/?/:
19:04 < mijndert> ihre: people actually say that? wut
19:04 < SpookyCrisp> Gencade, Same shit different day.
19:05 < mijndert> ihre: goddamn hipsters and their containers
19:05 < ihre> ...picnic... ;(
19:05 < Gencade> Anything fun going on SpookyCrisp ?
19:06 < SpookyCrisp> Gencade, starting school soon. Trying to find a new job.
19:06 < SpookyCrisp> About it
19:07 < Gencade> oh dang sorry about your old gig
19:07 < SpookyCrisp> I'm still here.
19:07 < SpookyCrisp> Just wanting more money.
19:07 < Gencade> ahhh
19:07 < Gencade> I seee
19:07 < ihre> mijndert: and maybe not those exact words, more in the way of: now i need to learn additional stuff besides _just writing code_, and this sprint is almost ending so i need to ship it, or pm wont be happy, all the way up to the top, then the phone rings, someone near a cto/the cto tells you to just push to prod, and then the cycle continues, because they'll just get whiney about it next time :P
19:08 < ihre> so agile
19:08 < mijndert> ihre: luckily the fact that everything runs as root is just "temporary"
19:09 < Gencade> DONT SAY AGILE
19:09 < Gencade> you might trigger me
19:09 < mijndert> Gencade: we should have a stand-up meeting about this
19:09 < Gencade> like at a comedy club?
19:09 < ihre> Gencade: talk to my pm, your complaint will end in the back log and we'll probably squeeze it in after the next 3 sprints
19:09 < mijndert> lol
19:09 < Gencade> REEEEE
19:10 < mijndert> put it in the parking lot
19:10 < corn266> Gencade: are you ready for this morning's standup?
19:10 < Gencade> PMs are professional complainers reeeee
19:10 < Gencade> yes corn266
19:10 < mijndert> show me a burndown chart
19:10 < corn266> .ziodberg
19:11 < corn266> shut
19:11 < corn266> (/) (°,,°) (/)
19:11 < Gencade> my eyes
19:11 < Gencade> the text
19:11 < mijndert> ಠ_ಠ
19:11 < Gencade> it hurts mijndert
19:11 < mijndert> it hurts every single day
19:12 < Gencade> Build that wall
19:12 < Gencade> build it higher
19:12 < trash1e> the wall just got 10 feet taller
19:12 < Gencade> talking about the Dev/Ops wall right
19:12 < Gencade> ||
19:12 < Gencade> ||
19:13 < Gencade> this one
19:13 < trash1e> all walls
19:13 < Gencade> oh damn nice
19:13 < mijndert> a manager i met said he "does devops" which means his teams does support in jira, with sprints
19:13 < mijndert> lol
19:14 < Gencade> this topic makes me need coffee
19:14 < Gencade> brb
19:14 < Bru-> lol
19:14 < mijndert> have some whiskey with that
19:14 < Gencade> Throw some baileys
19:14 < Gencade> hopefully HR doesnt walk in here
19:14  * Gencade steps away
19:14 < ihre> 'agile-coaching' is a nice money making ponzi scheme
19:15 < ihre> so if youre looking to step out of the nightshift Gencade, that might be suitable
19:15 < trash1e> i might crack open the breach whiskey here
19:15 < trash1e> not because of breach because of whiskey
19:15 < ihre> 15m of work is enough scwizard?
19:16 < scwizard> bleh actually before work
19:16 < scwizard> I need to damage control something :(
19:16 < Gencade> I'm back
19:16 < Gencade> can we talk about something more fun
19:16 < Gencade> like...
19:16 < scwizard> apparently i let my sexism get the better of me and mentioned a talk a woman gave at a conference was boring
19:16 < Gencade> idk avaicii just died
19:16 < scwizard> and now I'm nervous about my career idk
19:16 < tsarbomba> #timesup
19:17 < mijndert> Gencade: yes, people dying is way more fun than agile :P
19:17 < corn266> at least you didn't joke about dongles
19:17 < Gencade> agreed mijndert
19:17 < grumplestiltzkin> AGILE ascii art
19:17 < scwizard> i know one of the conference organizers quite well so had to write an apology letter, so I can appraise the situation and figure out how screwed I am
19:18 < Gencade> hey I want voice
19:18 < ihre> s/voice/to get muted
19:18 <+layer-eight> Gencade meant: "hey I want to get muted"
19:18 <+dbcc> rip
19:18 < Gencade> D:
19:18 <+dbcc> does anyone know how to get write-output $variable | sort to work through invoke-command
19:18 <+DrGibby|> ihre+++
19:18 <+dbcc> its not making it a nice table like when i run it directly
19:18 < Gencade> dont be mean DrGibby| you love me
19:19 <+DrGibby|> lies
19:19 < scwizard> but man it's so hard to figure out "is it more sexist to assume that I can't criticize a woman's conference talk without causing her distress? Or is it more sexist to criticize a woman's conference talk?"
19:19 < Gencade> well you at least love me more than you love hitler DrGibby|
19:19 <+DrGibby|> ehhhhhhhh
19:19 < scwizard> anyways I should shut up because this is getting maybe too politics
19:20 < Gencade> confirmed DrGibby| is the new kenrin/ xiamanton or whatever his name is now
19:20 < vinrock> szwizard thats why i dont attent tech conferences
19:20 < vinrock> attend
19:20 <+DrGibby|> scwizard: its sexist that you even consider talking to a woman differently
19:20 < vinrock> see:  what happened to the two guys at pycon
19:20 < scwizard> i didn't hear about that but I probably don't wanna
19:20 < ihre> that did involve the Dongle tho
19:21 < vinrock> they were whispering to another during a talk and giggle dat the word 'dongle'
19:21 < alazare619> https://jezebel.com/did-allison-mack-try-to-recruit-emma-watson-into-her-al-1825494972 my favorite costar to child hood smallville superhero runs a sex cult WTF?
19:21 < vinrock> woman behind them went REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and put em on blast on the internets
19:21 < vinrock> in the end, everyone got fired
19:21 < scwizard> alazare619: that news broke like 2 months ago lol
19:21 < ihre> alazare619: its in the name, born to mack
19:21 < vinrock> word up
19:21 < ihre> .yt too short mack attack
19:21 <+layer-eight> YouTube Too Short - Mack Attack - https://youtu.be/aS4cxbF1vp0
19:22 < vinrock> .yt return of the mack
19:22 <+layer-eight> YouTube Mark Morrison - Return Of The Mack [OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO] - https://youtu.be/uB1D9wWxd2w
19:22 < scwizard> vinrock: on the bright side, there was absolutely nothing sexual about my comment so maybe I'm not screwed
19:22 < vinrock> depends
19:22 < vinrock> what was your comment
19:22 < grumplestiltzkin> I got almost directly called out for 'mansplaining' by a female coworker when I was helping a different female coworker get her webex audio shit sorted out. It was delaying the meeting.
19:22 < corn266> "This would be an interesting presentation if a man was presenting it"
19:23 < scwizard> vinrock: i'll pm you
19:23 < vinrock> i had some random girl at a house party tell me she hated me because of the way i was sitting
19:23 < vinrock> i was too comfortable
19:23 < vinrock> ohhhhhkay
19:23 < ihre> you take that comfortable-sitting-privilege for granted
19:24 < scwizard> the most sexual thing that happened at the conference was a drunk woman (with right leaning politics) that I was hanging out with at the after after party repeatedly bringing up skinnydipping
19:25 < scwizard> vinrock: so how screwed am I/ now that you've read the comment?
19:25 < vinrock> idk scwizard... could be read as (by a lunatic) you were saying she's nagging
19:25 < scwizard> i mean
19:25 < scwizard> sometimes lunatics get special insight into things
19:27 < alazare619> scwizard:  im both shocked and awed
19:27 < am0nrahx> pfsense
19:27 < alazare619> chloe was like my childhood crush
19:27 < alazare619> well like my teens
19:28 < scwizard> she wouldn't be the first loopy actor out there
19:28 < scwizard> coughtomcruisecough
19:28 < am0nrahx> uh hello Jenny McCarthy
19:28 < am0nrahx> She's a maniac
19:28 < alazare619> i'd still fap to allison mack tho
19:28 < alazare619> makes it all that more kink worthy
19:28 < scwizard> woa slow down
19:28 < am0nrahx> I like to make my faps challenging
19:29 < am0nrahx> Helen Miren bruh
19:29 < scwizard> weren't we just talking about how we need to make tech spaces more welcoming and inclusive to women :|
19:29 < scwizard> ok yeah I really need to eat and actually work
19:29 < hxcsp> "tech spaces"
19:29 < am0nrahx> You mean, the tech spaces inhabited by perpetual virgins? Sure
19:29 < hxcsp> haha
19:29 < scwizard> up to 1 and a half hours off the clock
19:29 < scwizard> oh man sometimes I wonder like
19:30 < scwizard> "if I lost my virginity would I still say stupid shit to women that gets me in trouble"
19:31 < alazare619> scwizard:  tech spaces more welcoming to women
19:31 < alazare619> plz
19:31 < alazare619> women are more outspoken about fapping and rubbing one out then men in most cases
19:31 < alazare619> you obviously dont worth in healthcare
19:32 < am0nrahx> Or in a cube farm
19:32 < alazare619> nothing like being cat called by a ton of nurses
19:32 <+giant_it_burrit> ill tell anyone who asks
19:32 <+giant_it_burrit> alazare619: who did
19:32 < grumplestiltzkin> wtf is 'tech spaces' ?
19:32 < vinrock> one of the girls outside was just talkin bout how her boy was embarassed because she wanted to see his nuts after he had hernia surgery
19:32 < alazare619> the entire orthopedics nurse team earlier today
19:32 < scwizard> alazare619: talk about whacking it to allison mack at the next tech conference you attend to and see what happens lol (don't do that)
19:33 < am0nrahx> grumplestiltzkin I think we need to make the DC and the NOC more female friendly
19:33 <+giant_it_burrit> alazare619: to who you?
19:33 < vinrock> start by renaming the DC to something less phallic sounding
19:33 < vinrock> like the CT
19:33 < vinrock> and rename NOC
19:33 < am0nrahx> "Got an UPS dead in the CunT"
19:33 < vinrock> to VAGINA
19:34 < tsarbomba> vinrock: back to work
19:34 < tsarbomba> am0nrahx: back to work
19:34 < tsarbomba> giant_it_burrit: back to work
19:35 < grumplestiltzkin> tsarbomba: your blatant gender hostility is supressing females in the tech space
19:35 < alazare619> giant_it_burrit:
19:35 < tsarbomba> also, a challenging fap isn't helen mirren. it's rocky dennis from the movie "mask"
19:35 < alazare619> giant_it_burrit:  yes
19:35 < alazare619> apparently the neck beard made them drip
19:35 <+giant_it_burrit> lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll\
19:35 <+giant_it_burrit> ric flair drip??
19:35 <+giant_it_burrit> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
19:36 < alazare619> i should of woooooo
19:36 < alazare619> 'd
19:36 < alazare619> them
19:39 < asimon> Something I don't understand
19:39 < ihre> uh, wtf, https://www.shodan.io/host/96.68.2.216
19:39 < asimon> My office is co-located with a datacenter and somehow the power manages to go out like once a month
19:40 < asimon> I thought the datacenter would make things MORE reliable
19:40 <+giant_it_burrit> alazare619: let em ride space mountain
19:41 < ihre> is that an ultrasound/pregnancy echo room ? :|
19:42 < mal_will> I passed my favorite help desk guy's contact info to a recruiter looking to fill a position making more than me for a lower tier job. My life would massivley suck if this guy left, but I want to see him succeeeeed. I'm feeling like mother fucking theresa over here
19:47 < corn266> Your letting the sick people suffer because it's part of god's plan but getting treatment yourself because it's part of god's plan?
19:47 < alazare619> giant_it_burrit: theres a DC near me that does colo for 50 a month ;)
19:49 < Sousapro> ihre: that's kind of disturbing lol
19:49 < SpookyCrisp> ihre, Doesn't appear to be.
19:50 < SpookyCrisp> There would be more electronic equipment in there.
19:50 < Sousapro> on a windows domain, any idea why I get a response from a non-fsmo role server at another site when I ping the netbios name
19:50 < ihre> SpookyCrisp: i have no idea What it is, like Sousapro said, its kind of disturbing :P
19:53 < zerocool> hi guys
19:53 < zerocool> ive missed you
19:53 < SpookyCrisp> ihre, yeah. I wouldn't want a camera accessible to the internet watching me.
19:53 < SpookyCrisp> What was the name of that site that had cached screenshots of all unsecured VNC connections?
19:54 < ihre> vncroulette or something like that
19:54 < ihre> but just search for port 5900 on shodan and you'll find stuff
19:54 < SpookyCrisp> I heard it got bought and its down now
19:56 < ihre> or nmap -iR 1000000 -p 5900 :P
19:56 < Maarten> remember back in the windows 9x days with the first ethernet cable modems directly connected to that one PC? You could go to "network neighborhood" and see all the PC's in your town. ;) Found some cool stuff that way..... not that long ago I scanned a range of IP's and found a DOCTOR'S OFFICE (no kidding) with PATIENT INFO on a open SMB share I could write to. I left a .txt note file to secure it.... :D
19:57 < SpookyCrisp> Lol. Always fun to see what you can find.
19:58 < Maarten> nowadays most providers block port 445, which is probably a smart thing. Never thought about scanning VNC before.
19:58 < SpookyCrisp> Well, worldofvnc is still live.
19:59 < derpingit> whadap guys
19:59 < SpookyCrisp> But the screenshots are all 2 years old.
20:00 < derpingit> i need to share a 20gb (system image) file with 20 other techs, and have them download it once a month. what's the cheapest fastest way to do this?..
20:00 < derpingit> was thinking something like megaupload or something of the sort
20:00 < ihre> Sneakernet :D
20:01 < derpingit> lol
20:01 < jbroome> resilio sync ?
20:02 < derpingit> we have egnite, but our licensing is no bueno for files over 10gb and i can';t trust third parties to put it all together :/
20:03 < grumplestiltzkin> derpingit: thumbdrive in a standard envelope is probably the cheapest easiest  iirc a standard 1 stamp envelope can be up to 12 oz, but verify that
20:03 < ihre> Rar multifile should automatically find the 2nd part of an archive though
20:03 < corn266> derpingit: rar split the compressed image and send over
20:03 < derpingit> thanks.. that is the way we do it now.. i wanted to do it online, tho
20:04 < derpingit> hi corn. tought of that, but again.. can't trust third parties to put it together. i know rar will do it automatically, but i don't want any variables
20:05 < ihre> I assume something like mega.co would be blocked by a lot of proxies at work..
20:05 < corn266> derpingit: send a one click script along with it
20:05 < derpingit> do tell. i've never used one click tbh
20:06 < vinrock> why dont you just dmz a host on your lan and have it serve up the warez
20:06 < vinrock> or a subdir on your webserver
20:07 < corn266> or an ssh server with RSA keys
20:07 < derpingit> i'll give you an idea why i can't rely on third party.. i package most installations with 7zip and do auto extract and install.. even use autohotkey for tricky window handling work so it's as smooth an install as possible. nope.. still get calls and long as chain emails about it
20:07 < derpingit> i'm not bitching, just looking for ways to mitigate this hassle (for me and for them)
20:07 < ihre> Or just s3, regular storage would cost about 16$ a month
20:07 < derpingit> amazon?
20:08 < felda> Through advanced pfsense scanning I have detected that vinrock actually runs his entire LAN subnet in the DMZ
20:08 < SynMonger> user brain transplants is always an option, may even be cheaper than your time at this point
20:08 < ihre> S3-IA might even be cheaper
20:08 < ihre> Yes, aws
20:08 < vinrock> FELDA OPSEC
20:08 < felda> it's genious
20:08 < felda> > genious
20:08 < felda> wow how did I goof that
20:08 < felda> genius!
20:08 < felda> I are the smaterest
20:09 < felda> s/smaterest/smarterest
20:09 <+layer-eight> felda meant: "I are the smarterest"
20:10 < corn266> s/smarterest/smaterest
20:10 <+layer-eight> felda meant: "I are the smaterest"
20:11 < felda> You dare MOCK the son of a shepherd?!
20:12 < Maarten> s/mock/fuck
20:13 < Maarten> it don't work for me! :D
20:13 < Heresiarch> lol case sensitivity
20:13 < Maarten> s/MOCK/FUCK
20:13 <+layer-eight> felda meant: "You dare FUCK the son of a shepherd?!"
20:13 < Maarten> yay!
20:14 < felda> Is that supposed to be sexual harassment?
20:14 < Maarten> could be.
20:16 < onenerdyguy> god it's hot in here
20:17 < vinrock> it's getting hot ein hurrr
20:17 < onenerdyguy> thats bad and you should feel bad.
20:17 < vinrock> no take of all yo cloooothes
20:18 < Heresiarch> or just go get some Moe's.
20:19 < vinrock> hm
20:19 < Maarten> luckily, someone in the early 20th century invented something called an "air conditioner".
20:19 < vinrock> these boiled eggs i got from quick chek taste like azz
20:20 < vinrock> suspect they are actually egg-flavored formed food product
20:20 < corn266> don't you know platypus eggs are much cheaper and are used in gas stations instead of actual eggs
20:20 < vinrock> no list of ingredients
20:20 < vinrock> thats a good sign i guess
20:21 < vinrock> 'oh snap thats it
20:21 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> vinrock, Or they're old eggs repackaged in a new package.
20:21 < corn266> wtf vinrock "Ingredients: a fucking egg are you retarded"
20:21 < linuxdood> SysAdminGoneCraZ, gross
20:21 < vinrock> so far im on board with the platypus theory
20:21 < vinrock> corn you cant taste these shits i can
20:21 < vinrock> tastes like frumunda cheese
20:22 < vinrock> welp ill know in about an hour if that was a good idea or not
20:23 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> vinrock, It was nice knowing you. Takes for all the tips over the years. You've been awesome.
20:23 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> thanks*
20:23 < corn266> mmmm frumunda cheese https://imgur.com/ZZ5gs0u
20:23 < linuxdood> F
20:24 < vinrock> corn, blue waffle is another interesting and informative search
20:24 < grumplestiltzkin> wtf?  shipping quadroped quack eggs ?
20:25 < corn266> Ah, I get it now
20:26 < derpingit> hey. stupid question, but can someone help me figure out pricing on this S3-IA ? looks cheap af.
20:27 < derpingit> so is 1cent for every gb transferred?
20:27 < genr8_> ?
20:28 < onenerdyguy> high
20:28 < genr8_> https://www.concurrencylabs.com/blog/save-money-using-s3-infrequent-access/
20:28 < ihre> derpingit: just google s3 cost calculator
20:29 < tsarbomba> my god, the mercedes/maybach "SUV" is horrific
20:29 < Heresiarch> derpingit: + bandwidth to actually do the transfer (free if the source is within AWS).
20:29 < tsarbomba> auto design by helen keller
20:30 < derpingit> gessuz i have no idea wtf that site says.. sorry, i've never done aws
20:30 < genr8_> There is a minimum billable object size of 128KB, meaning objects smaller than this value will be charged for 128KB of storage. If the majority of your files are smaller than 128KB, you will want to crunch some numbers and make sure you don’t pay more due to this limitation.
20:30 < Heresiarch> derpingit: what are you trying to do in general?
20:30 < derpingit> lets say i host a 20gb image.. i want 20 other techs to download each month
20:31 < derpingit> so we're talking 400gb transfer/month. correct?
20:31 < derpingit> plus the initial 20 upload
20:31 < ihre> ehh i made a mistake ealier while i said 16$, i put in 200g instead of 400 :p
20:32 < ihre> so i end up at ~34$
20:32 < Maarten> more or less. Say 450 Gb to count for a little overhead, users with lousy internet connections and lots of lost packets etc.....
20:33 < Maarten> And you will have the occasional person who will download the same file 3 times because they accidentally deleted it twice :P
20:33 < gnupluslinux> someone give ma name for this throwaway project
20:34 < ihre> 66cdacda
20:34 <+DrGibby|> throwawayproject mk II
20:34 < Heresiarch> derpingit: https://calculator.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html (make sure you include the data transfer involved, as that'll be the bulk of the cost)
20:34 < gnupluslinux> yellowbanana it is
20:34 < derpingit> yeah i'm using the calculator
20:34 < ihre> why did i even bother :|
20:34 < derpingit> i get $4.51/month
20:34 < grumplestiltzkin> gnupluslinux: project nugget
20:35 < genr8_> thats pretty cheap
20:35 < derpingit> ihre sorry. what's that?
20:35 < Heresiarch> derpingit: did you scroll down to the "data transfer" bit and include ~450GB there?
20:35 < ihre> derpingit: no i meant for gnupluslinux :p
20:35 < Heresiarch> (would be under "data transfer out")
20:35 < ihre> derpingit: https://i.imgur.com/9gvTdvt.png
20:36 < corn266> Linode is also a fair choice IMO, $40 should cover it
20:36 < gnupluslinux> ihre, needed soemthing sayable
20:36 < derpingit> i put that under "data retreival"
20:36 < gnupluslinux> saiyanable
20:36 < tsarbomba> anybody here have sleepy eyes?
20:36 < gnupluslinux> i should just start naming them after animes
20:36 < genr8_> i didnt sleep but no
20:36 < gnupluslinux> "yeah just ping saint_seiya and and feed it through flcl"
20:37 < genr8_> I messed up my damn DD img by copying the partition and not the whole drive disk
20:37 < ihre> gnupluslinux: uuidgen/uuidgen | cut -d - -f 1 ftw :p
20:37 < genr8_> turns out theres no easy way to shift a partition by an offset to include an MBR partition
20:38 < genr8_> partition table*
20:38 < corn266> genr8_: I usually just spam mount points till it works
20:38 < felda> I kinda wish my keyboard was above / hovered above my desk
20:38 < ihre> a ... hoverboard?
20:38 < felda> I like being able to write and have stuff on my desk in front of me
20:38 < felda> but I don't have enough depth in my desk to push my keyboard forward
20:38 < Sarah> https://i.redd.it/ow6fn28cqut01.gif
20:39 < genr8_> i have 2 keyboards, a piano behind my main keyboard ;p
20:39 < derpingit> so i'm looking at linode.. 30gb storage w/ 2tb transfer for $10 ? what's the catch here...
20:40 < corn266> here you go felda https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Projection-Virtual-Bluetooth-Keyboard/dp/B00LFJBP0Y
20:40 < ihre> derpingit: is that storage or just a vps?
20:40 < genr8_> 30gb isnt much
20:40 < derpingit> vps
20:40 < Heresiarch> derpingit: it's a vps, so you have to set it up.
20:40 < ihre> 30g is enough if you have to host a 10g file :P
20:40 < derpingit> my image (the file i want to host) is around 20gb
20:40 < ihre> eh 20g* :D
20:41 < derpingit> i actually host a linode vps for my remote desktop service (screenconnect) .. i wonder if i can just buy extra space
20:42 < genr8_> not necessarily
20:42 < genr8_> the storage is tied to the machine usually unless you use like "storage spaces" (thats digitalocean term) but yea
20:42 < Heresiarch> looks like you can (block storage)
20:42 < ihre> https://linode.com/docs/platform/disk-images/disk-images-and-configuration-profiles/#creating-a-blank-disk
20:43 < derpingit> i've never done file transfer for my vps.. i wonder how fast and stable would be if more than a few people downloaded at the same time
20:44 < derpingit> my guess is that's where amazon would shine.
20:44 < Heresiarch> should be fine, just might be a little slow.
20:44 < corn266> I mean they offer outbound at 1Gbps
20:44 < Heresiarch> (if everyone's downloading at the same time)
20:44 < genr8_> as long as it doesnt overload your machine you should be good
20:45 < ihre> which is something you could probably test up front anyways
20:45 < ihre> and keep an eye on your (linode's?) monitoring or something like that
20:45 < derpingit> thanks.. i will give this a try
20:46 < Casteil> you guys ever have one of those clips that gets you ever time? ...this is mine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZBo2wBH0zE
20:46 <+layer-eight> YouTube Isle of Dogs - A Michael Bay film by 2017-11-02T04:57:30.000Z (duration: 15s) on Thu Nov 02 11:57:30 UTC 2017, 2017-11-02T04:57:30.000Z views
20:47 < ihre> .yt dave chappelle wayne brady
20:47 <+layer-eight> YouTube Chappelle's Show - The Wayne Brady Show - Uncensored - https://youtu.be/X-zSJljpKNc
20:48 < ihre> "mr franklin's lonely" hehehehe
20:52 < felda> but what would this channel do if I didn't have pfsense on highlight anymore?
20:53 < genr8_> nerd shit
20:54 < corn266> actual work
20:54 < derpingit> lol
20:54 < derpingit> he be ded
20:56 < corn266> reap en pesos
20:56 <+giant_it_burrit> hood rat stuff with our friends
21:03 < corn266> .BOFH
21:03 <+layer-eight> corn266, BOFH says: Processes running slowly due to weak power supply
21:05 < tsarbomba> lol. the devs can't wrap their minds around the way sftp authenticates so they're trying to get me to fix their code because "sftp is a systems issue"
21:05 < tsarbomba> no, fuckrod, sftp is a clearly-defined set of standards under which your shitty code needs to fucking operate correctly
21:06 < tsarbomba> god fucking damnit DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS
21:06 < tsarbomba> (((DEVELOPERS)))
21:06 < Heresiarch> isn't there an ssh lib in their language of choice?
21:06 < DomLS3> s/ developers/carbon fiber
21:06 < DomLS3> s/ DEVELOPERS/carbon fiber
21:06 <+layer-eight> tsarbomba meant: "god fucking damnitcarbon fibercarbon fibercarbon fibercarbon fibercarbon fibercarbon fibercarbon fibercarbon fiber"
21:06 < bvierra> product just came to me and said that we need to be able to take our prod db (only a few 100Mb), anonymize it, and have it downloaded to a developer machine within 30sec
21:06 < bvierra> hard time limit
21:06 < tsarbomba> heresiarch, something something third-party control something something can't reverse engineer
21:07 < tsarbomba> like i'm supposedto do something about their shit
21:07 < tsarbomba> bvierra, ticket closed because the laws of physics are immutable. next.
21:07 < bvierra> told him if I could do this I would would own my own company making billions a day
21:07 < Heresiarch> tsarbomba: something something ssh key and command line?
21:08 < tsarbomba> heresiarch, i sent the cli output showing good authentications, directory changes and file transfers :D
21:08 < Heresiarch> heh
21:08 < tsarbomba> proving that sftp itself works and that their shitty third-party control is the problem
21:08 < tsarbomba> the emailing dev is in $boss's office right now. i am not letting myself get sucked into this.
21:09 < tsarbomba> "systems issue" != "any dev issue the devs can't figure out"
21:09 < Heresiarch> you'll never end up in devops that way...
21:10 < tsarbomba> exactly
21:10 < Heresiarch> XD
21:10 < JFDkthx> Heresiarch: he's already half devops
21:10 < JFDkthx> the shitty half
21:11 <@JollyRgrs> tsarbomba: i'm dealing with that now
21:11 <@JollyRgrs> b/c their app won't call their self-updater .exe from running...
21:11 <@JollyRgrs> they download a .exe from the DB... it's a SFX exe (packaged with winRAR by the icon)... then they call an exe out of the extracted files with..
21:12 <@JollyRgrs> wait for it....
21:12 <@JollyRgrs> psexec using a hardcoded user/password!
21:12 < JFDkthx> Toronto Van Attack Suspect "hater1" Expressed Anger at Women
21:15 < ihre> https://hub.docker.com/r/chrisjamesuk/apache-ldap/~/dockerfile/ one day shit like that should come back and haunt you during some job interview or w/e :p
21:16 < ConkyAxis> Yo. Fuck 1and1. Fuck up your credit rating
21:17 < ConkyAxis> Still stuck with the bloody domain.
21:18 < ConkyAxis> Worst company ever /rant
21:19 < vinrock> someone itc works for at&t and is laughing at your complaint
21:21 < alazare619> JFDkthx:  that is most definetly cryptic1
21:24 < ConkyAxis> https://www.facebook.com/Boycott1and1Internet
21:26 < felda> JFDkthx is the creator of the Southern Strategy
21:26 <@hater1> I probably should not have setup a script that allows him to remote trigger it
21:29 < vinrock> yo i bought one of these:  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074HB8Y3Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
21:29 < vinrock> it's actually pretty friggin nice
21:29 < vinrock> unlike those cheapo helping hands kits you usually see what totally suck a dilz
21:29 < vinrock> even came with two free roach clips
21:33 < m4221> We wre vsphere 5.1...
21:33 < m4221> We are on vsphere 5.1
21:38 < _fuzzzerd> Hey felda, do you use ACME Cert manager on pfSense? I found a bug that was fixed on the upstream project, but there's no update to the pfsense package: https://github.com/Neilpang/acme.sh/issues/1539
21:41 < tsarbomba> m4221 will you make it to 5.5 by 2021?
21:46 < Sarah> so, power went out and one of our servers that was here before i started went down
21:46 < felda> _fuzzzerd no I've never use Let's Encrypt so I can't help you :(
21:46 < Sarah> i went to investigate: https://www.sarah.ninja/ups.jpg
21:47 < _fuzzzerd> well I went into the package files and manually updated the godaddy script with the latest file from github and it seems ot be working
21:47 < _fuzzzerd> but the package from the pfsense package manager hasn't bene updated in a while
21:47 <@JollyRgrs> vinrock: that description tho... "and the magnifying lens is clear of imperfections as well as the LED lights are well focused on the work area thanks to our scentific configurations."
21:47 < felda> _fuzzzerd you can look in the repo and see if it has been approved
21:48 < felda> then after that it is only a matter of time
21:48 < Heresiarch> Sarah: yeah, coiling the power cable like that will do it. Should be a wider coil to prevent the electrons from getting stuck in possible kinks. /s
21:48 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> felda, I think its about time you change that. Oppertunity right there to slap that on your resume.
21:48 < vinrock> jolly it's 100% chinesium so engrish is expected but im tellin' ya im super impressed with the quality
21:48 < felda> LOL
21:48 < vinrock> even the packaging was great
21:49 < felda> SysAdminGoneCraZ I don't know the slightest thing about programming
21:49 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> felda, lol
21:49 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> felda, R U ME?!
21:49 < tsarbomba> i think i had a stroke reading the 'sentence' jollyrgrs quoted
21:49 < vinrock> die cut foam the parts fit snugly inside of, base plate powdercoated is solid steel, arms/clips/lens are decent quality and not garbage
21:50 < vinrock> even came with protective pouch for lens, microfiber cloth and micro usb charge cable (built in rechargable battery!)
21:50 < felda> hey folks I'm sorry to say this but felda.io hosting is about to run out and I'm going to leave my namecheap hosting behind.
21:50 < tsarbomba> gasp
21:50 < felda> I'm not abandoning felda.io domain it will just be down while I migrate it to something else like perhaps self hosting?
21:50 < tsarbomba> YOU CAN'T
21:50 < tsarbomba> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
21:50 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> vinrock, Damn, that's gangsta. Doc Oct would be proud of your purchase.
21:51 < Heresiarch> felda: on behalf of the internet, thank you for this brief improvement in content quality.
21:51 < vavkamil> it's github page?
21:51 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> felda, Self host on a RasPI?
21:51 < felda> in other news which GNU+Linux distro should I use to run my website?
21:52 < vinrock> centos the onlyos
21:52 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> ^
21:52 < Sarah> Heresiarch: :P
21:52 < vinrock> or in keeping with the felda.io theme, hannax montana linux
21:52 < Heresiarch> you know, centos has it's place, but I kinda like ubuntu better for websites.
21:52 < vinrock> /s/hannax/hannah
21:52 < vavkamil> I must restart my rPi everytime
21:52 < vinrock> ew
21:54 < vavkamil> do you guys recommend mr. robot?
21:54 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> vavkamil, ? WHats that?
21:54 < Heresiarch> vavkamil: absolutely.
21:54 < vavkamil> SysAdminGoneCraZ, tv series about security
21:55 <@JollyRgrs> vavkamil: good show
21:55 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> vavkamil, OOOOOh, yeah, I forgot that was a show
21:55 < Heresiarch> probably the most accurate depiction of hacking in tv.
21:55 < vavkamil> I'm going to watch first episode now
21:55 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> I'm waiting for it to come to netflix.
21:55 <@JollyRgrs> first season is more about computer hacking... the other seasons get more into the people part of things and less computery
21:55 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> then I'll watch it
21:55 <@JollyRgrs> it is still very good IMO
21:55 <@JollyRgrs> but those who just want hackerfest got bored real quickly
21:55 < mkillebrew> it was dumb and boring and drawn out
21:55 <@JollyRgrs> like mkillebrew
21:55 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> :O
21:55 < Heresiarch> heh
21:55 <@JollyRgrs> :P
21:56 < vinrock> it aint realistic if it aint got kelly clarkson creating a gui in visual basic so she can backtrace the ip
21:57 <@JollyRgrs> and i agree with mkillebrew that some things are drawn out and a bit slow, but i think it needed to be at some points
21:57 <@JollyRgrs> kelly clarkson? where'd she come into the picture?
21:57 < vinrock> im pretty sure she was the guest in that episode who said that line
21:57 <@JollyRgrs> that's just not realistic :P
21:57 <@JollyRgrs> i'm pretty sure that was b4 she was famous
21:57 <@JollyRgrs> but i'm getting old, time starts to meld together
21:57 < vinrock> im pretty sure youre right
21:57 < vinrock> i just remember this from internet clips i never watched that garbage show
21:58 <@JollyRgrs> i didn't either
21:58 <@JollyRgrs> those shows never intrigued me
21:58 < vinrock> oh ok just watched the clip again i was totally wrong
21:58 < vinrock> idk who the f that person is heh
21:58 <@JollyRgrs> the hawaii 5-0 refresh i watched for a season or so... but that's about it for me and cop shows
21:58 <@JollyRgrs> cept brooklyn 99... that show's aight
21:58 < vavkamil> best scene was from CSI, two people using one keyboard
21:59 <@JollyRgrs> i saw that clip, too
21:59 <@JollyRgrs> "here, lemme help you hack this virus"
21:59 < JFDkthx> hater1: jokes on you, everytime he requests to kick me i donate to his most hated charity.
21:59 <@hater1> i hate that JFDkthx
22:00 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> You guys are forgetting Hackers? Zero vs CEO Evil dude? I forget his name.
22:00 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> The same guy who built Johnny 5
22:00 < JFDkthx> hater1: you hate me :(
22:00 < grumplestiltzkin> Steve Gutenberg?
22:01 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> grumplestiltzkin, THere it is!
22:01 < Kobe`> jolly i went on a sick winning streak last night
22:01 < grumplestiltzkin> ehh.. Ali sheeney (sp?) .. the not-indian guy playing an indian guy
22:01 <@hater1> JFDkthx, nope
22:01 < JFDkthx> grumplestiltzkin: robert downy jr?
22:01 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Wait, he's not indian??
22:02 < grumplestiltzkin> SysAdminGoneCraZ: yeah, surprised me too
22:02 < grumplestiltzkin> because.. how in the wide world of fuck was that kosher?
22:02 < JFDkthx> its about that time
22:02 < grumplestiltzkin> probably nobody realized at the time
22:02 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Fisher Stevens
22:02 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Wow
22:03 < grumplestiltzkin> and no SJWs at the time.   'cultural appopriation etc, wasnt a thing
22:03 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> grumplestiltzkin, Fisher Stevens. LoL Childhood fuckin' ruined lol
22:04 <@JollyRgrs> well, iron man played a black guy, wouldn't be so bad if he played indian, too, right?
22:04 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> grumplestiltzkin, I've only ever seen him in Short Circuit and Hackers. I always thought he had execellent voice talant for being able to hide his natural indian accent.
22:05 <@JollyRgrs> Kobe`: win streak in pubg?
22:05 < grumplestiltzkin> SysAdminGoneCraZ: wait.   hory shit.   ali sheedey was the guy with long hair and goatee in hackers?
22:05 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> grumplestiltzkin, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher_Stevens
22:06 < grumplestiltzkin> Oh, yeah, that guy.   ali mus thave been the girl
22:06 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Oh, WTF, he was in Super Mario Bros ??
22:07 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Holy shit, he was.
22:07 < grumplestiltzkin> wow. hes been pretty busy, multiple movies almost every year since the 80s
22:07 < Casteil> :\ was looking forward to a quick sale of this planer and $200 cash in hand
22:07 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> grumplestiltzkin, I've only seen 3 of them. Short Circuit, Hackers and Super Mario Bros lol
22:07 < grumplestiltzkin> amd TV. YUJE resume
22:07 < Casteil> damn dickhead backing out
22:08 < vinrock> planer
22:08 <@JollyRgrs> that's what she said?
22:08 < vinrock> ...the woodworking tool?
22:08 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> JollyRgrs, lol
22:08 < Casteil> yes, thickness planer
22:08 <@JollyRgrs> vinrock: you think a paper planner would be $200?
22:08 < vinrock> i couldnt think of anything else called a planer
22:08 < Casteil> https://www.amazon.com/WEN-6550-12-5-Inch-Benchtop-Thickness/dp/B0106XD60Q/
22:09 < vinrock> had to dig deep into 8th grade shop class to remember that
22:09 < Casteil> I upgraded so I'm looking to sell that one :P
22:09 < grumplestiltzkin> what did you go to?
22:09 <@JollyRgrs> Casteil: for $200?
22:09 <@JollyRgrs> he prob saw he could get brand new for 250 on amazon and backed out
22:09 < Casteil> grumplestiltzkin: https://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW735X-Two-Speed-Thickness-Package/dp/B003OX9KME/
22:09 <@JollyRgrs> looks like you're the dickhead
22:09 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Casteil, God damn, WTF you building? A Tree house?!
22:09 < Casteil> JollyRgrs: I linked the amazon listing from the sale
22:10 <@JollyRgrs> lol
22:10 < Casteil> tools like this don't tend to depreciate much
22:10 < grumplestiltzkin> did you find the WEN unsatisfactory, or just need more flexibility?
22:11 < Casteil> grumplestiltzkin: impulsive upgrade, frankly
22:11 < Casteil> impulsive and ultimately unnecessary haha
22:11 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> So .. no tree house :(
22:11 < vinrock> well then go for the gold and buy festool
22:12 < vinrock> your carpender buddies see you pulling festool shit outa your van awww shit panties be droppin
22:12 < grumplestiltzkin> well, the dewalt will probably hold a lot more value than the WEN, but the WEN doesn't have far to go down either.  That exact one ( I think tha tone and not the 13) are on my 'to buy' list after I do some reorganizing in my shop
22:15 < grumplestiltzkin> Casteil: did you ever use the dust collector part with a vac at all?
22:16 < Casteil> vinrock: festool is hilariously overpriced for the most part
22:16 < vinrock> oh i know
22:17 < Casteil> I want a domino so badly but fuuuuck paying $1000 for one
22:17 < vinrock> only the drill/drivers with the neato attachments are worth a shit
22:17 < Casteil> shit should be like $200-300 tops
22:17 < Casteil> fuckers have a patent on it though so no one can legally compete with it
22:17 < asimon> Friendly reminder to buy a sawstop if your tablesaw isn't one
22:17 < Casteil> grumplestiltzkin: Yeah... someone posted a dewalt 735 on craigslist with a shelix spiral helix carbide cutter head the other day for $600
22:18 < Casteil> pretty good price considering that combined new they'd be like $900+
22:18 < asimon> My dad fucked his hand up the other day without it
22:18 < tsarbomba> i love it when a new client shows up and their company name is badly misspelled
22:18 < tsarbomba> but everybody's too afraid to tell them that
22:18 < ny0x> my employer wants me to relocate to boston where cost of living is like 120% higher for a 8% raise.
22:18 < vinrock> lol the cheap domino joiner is a grand
22:18 < ny0x> lol
22:18 < Casteil> I want a shelix head in mine because they're basically indestructible
22:19 < grumplestiltzkin> Casteil: looing at the wen again, one guy complains about 5" (probably exaggeragted)  of snipe on each end of a board, did you get that at all?  I'm assuming he was trying to take too much off, or going too fast or something
22:21 < Casteil> asimon: sawstops are also prohibitively expensive (and patented)
22:21 < Casteil> basically they're lobbying to try to get sawstop technology mandated
22:22 < Casteil> they don't give a fuck about safety, they just want buku money
22:22 < Casteil> grumplestiltzkin: Idiot not knowing how to plane shit. There's some minor snipe but that's going to happen on just about any 'lunchbox' style planer like this
22:23 < asimon> I think they gave up on the legislation route
22:23 < grumplestiltzkin> I would rather take a small gusher than ruining the whole tool.   If it would have taken a finger or worse, ehh, yeah, probably saw stop.  but like - safety safety safety first. keep all the plastic and guards where htey are supposed to be
22:23 < Casteil> fark I clocked out like 15 minutes ago why am I still here
22:23 < Casteil> sawstop doesn't ruin the whole table saw
22:23 < Heresiarch> Casteil: got caught up talking about tools to play with your wood.
22:23 < Casteil> there's a 'disposable' unit that costs like $50-100 or something
22:24 < Casteil> maybe a little more
22:24 < Casteil> grumplestiltzkin: Yeah. Most table saw injuries can be avoided simply by having a riving knife in place
22:24 < Casteil> and always being conscious of your hand placement
22:24 < grumplestiltzkin> oh, thats not bad.  I only remember seeing a demo a few years ago and I thought it wrecked the whole saw
22:24 < Casteil> generally speaking your hand should never travel past your saw blade
22:24 < Casteil> anyway, heading home :P back in like 5-10m
22:25 < asimon> The base model is $1600 which is pretty comparable to other tablesaws I think
22:25 < jbroome> grumplestiltzkin: nope, destroys the blade which is a replacable cartridge kinda thing
22:25 < asimon> certainly not prohibitively expensive if you're buying a tablesaw
22:25 < Casteil> maybe cabinet saws
22:25 < Casteil> my table saw is one of the best contractor saws you can get and it set me back around $420
22:25 < Casteil> https://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DWE7491RS-10-Inch-Jobsite-Capacity/dp/B00F2CGXGG/
22:25 < asimon> Oh sure
22:26 < asimon> I was talking about the cabinet one, yes
22:27 < grumplestiltzkin> I want to get a belt driven table saw, but the only thing I would need it for relly is to make cabinets for inside the house - and I need to finish making cabinets for the shop first, they can be rough looking
22:28 < grumplestiltzkin> my $100 skil table saw (with dado) is getting done all the jerbs that I need to do.
22:30 < asimon> I'm still in a fully-carpeted apartment so this has to do for me :( https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:670704
22:30 < grumplestiltzkin> I don't like it.  Its like I want it to fail so I can replace it, but it's working.    The housing is *plastic*.  the table is aluminum.   It was a quick-purchase for a bandaid for something *years* ago, and it just won't frigging die or fuck up to justify replacing it
22:31 < grumplestiltzkin> asimon: thingiverse?  3d-printed table saw for a dremel?
22:32 < ihre> asimon: did you print it yourself?
22:32 < gnupluslinux> yer all criminals! tha lot o ya!
22:32 < gnupluslinux> hater1, back to work!
22:32 < rhqq> asimon: http://www.instructables.com/id/Mini-Tablesaw-Router-Shaper-for-Dremel-rotary-/
22:32 < gnupluslinux> NinjaStyle, fetch my coffee!
22:32 < rhqq> i made this one
22:32 < asimon> ihre: yup. Had to make some modifications to fit my model of dremel but its pretty neat
22:33 < ihre> cool, i might have to poke Hatsjoe to have him print one for me :D
22:33 < asimon> rhqq: That's awesome, I love the bigger workspace!
22:34 < rhqq> :)
22:34 < rhqq> i had to modify it, because i have a 90 angle attachment
22:34 < rhqq> but idea remains the same
22:34 < ihre> i wonder what it would cost to get it made by shapeways or 3dhubs or something like that
22:35 < asimon> I don't think it'd be all that much. Maybe a few tens of dollars at most
22:35 < ihre> bah, basic slack enabled integration for new gitlab projects sucks, every build so far is failing, i dont want to spam that to slack at the same time :P
22:36 < Kobe`> i have my bot message whoever broke the build
22:36 < Casteil> I've been pretty happy with that Dewalt 7491 RS I linked
22:36 < Kobe`> instead of the whole channel
22:36 < Casteil> arbor is big enough for a sizable dado stack, the rack/pinion fence is very smooth and locks very stable
22:37 < ihre> im just trying to get docker dind on k8s working with my own cluster, obviously running into "Cannot connect to the Docker daemon at unix:///var/run/docker.sock. Is the docker daemon running?"
22:37 < ihre> helm chart for the gitlab-runner is also broken
22:38 < ihre> like, every time you think you MIGHT have something working, you'll run into another gitlab edge case which fucks it all up :p
22:38 < alazare619> you know what would be cool
22:38 < alazare619> zentyal as a docker image
22:39 < ihre> :|
22:39 < alazare619> i would totally run that on my docker host instead of having a windows DC
22:39 < ihre> not sure if trolling
22:39 < Casteil> woo.. weather's finally starting to act like spring
22:39 < ihre> zentyal exists of like 9000 different daemons and 1200 parts ... it would be the opposite of cool to have that in a container :p
22:40 < Casteil> furnace hasn't had to run for >56 hours and my house has maintained a decent temp (at least 60f)
22:40 < alazare619> ihre:  no it would be cool
22:40 < alazare619> and i mean mainly the samba/dc/dhcp/dns part
22:40 < ihre> and arent there zentyal appliances/vms that do just that?
22:40 < alazare619> nothing else
22:40 < alazare619> VM's
22:40 < asimon> rhqq: I've also seen some designs out there for dremel mills but I think you wouldn't get very good accuracy with that
22:40 < alazare619> but i want a docker image
22:40 < ihre> still not sure if trolling :\
22:40 < alazare619> docker is far lighter
22:40 < asimon> probably a shitton of backlash
22:41 < ihre> then run it w/ lxc, but not in a docker container
22:42 < alazare619> you realize most docker containers are full fledged images right
22:42 < rhqq> asimon: you mean cnc mills?
22:42 < alazare619> there is really nothing that is diffrent between lxc and docker in the fundamental of things
22:42 < alazare619> if you see FROM Ubuntu:latest
22:42 < ihre> you're really on a roll here
22:42 < alazare619> that means its full on ubuntu with packages...
22:42 < ihre> no it isnt
22:43 < ihre> it does Not contain a systemd pid1
22:43 < ihre> lxc ve ubuntu does
22:43 < asimon> rhqq: Both cnc and the good old knob-turning manual kind, yeah
22:43 < rhqq> they're good, accuracy depends on the frame and stepper motors, not on the dremel itself
22:43 < asimon> The cnc might be okay if you scrapped an old 3d printer
22:44 < rhqq> but you wont be able to mill anything other than wood or aluminium, but aluminium may be suuuper slow
22:44 < Casteil> pff
22:44 < Casteil> can't mill cheese?
22:44 < asimon> for sure, yeah
22:45 < ravioli> i prefer my cheese hand-milled
22:45 < ravioli> by a skilled artisan in a bespoke brooklyn basement
22:45 < xamithan> Do you mill shaving soaps
22:45 < IonutVan_> https://imgur.com/a/TymB7KE
22:45 < asimon> .yt easy cheese 3d printer part III
22:45 <+layer-eight> YouTube Easy Cheese 3D Printer: Part III, The Leaning Tower of Cheeza - https://youtu.be/gMHekZ7X3bc
22:46 < ravioli> IonutVan_: nice
22:46 < Casteil> IonutVan_: neat.. wish I could be bothered to build a hidden room like that
22:47 < Casteil> >39 network drops run throughout the house
22:47 < Casteil> ...the fuck for?!
22:47 < IonutVan_> too much work, wifi is ok for me :D
22:48 < Casteil> fucking holes everywhere, fuck that shit
22:48 < Casteil> that drywall would take ages to patch
22:48 <+DrGibby|> http://quotes.rsysadmin.net/?127
22:48 < Casteil> I don't even want to paint all the rooms in my house let alone blast holes in everything and then paint
22:49 < Maarten> lots of painting :P might be worth it though if you are going to repaint the rooms anyways.
22:49 < Maarten> btw if you have an attic crawl space or a crawl space under the house you don't really need to have that many holes.
22:49 < Heresiarch> yeah, it sounds like this guy was planning to repaint because he'd also stripped the old wood paneling.
22:50 < Casteil> my house layout isn't exactly "wiring friendly"
22:51 < Casteil> it's split level w/ 4 levels so really only the main floor (above the partly finished basement) has easy wiring access
22:53 < Casteil> that guy uses an electromagnet as the latch
22:53 < Casteil> sounds like a waste of energy
22:55 < Casteil> completely excessive, but still neat
22:55 < Heresiarch> paranoia. Can't get into the closet unless the magnet fails, the UPS croaks (after 6h), or you find a way to crack the bookshelf out of the frame.
22:55 < Maarten> Heresiarch, an axe.
22:55 < Casteil> a 600 pound magnet isn't going to stop the leverage of a basic prybar
22:56 < Casteil> 10:1 leverage ratio and 100 pounds of pressure becomes 1000 pounds of force
22:56 < Maarten> If it is an electrified magnet, it only works with electrical power.... and you aren't allowed to keep those on UPS's due to fire code. That's why you see all these doors pop CLOSED in offices when the power fails.
22:56 < Heresiarch> yeah, it can be defeated by purely physical methods, but it'd be enough to stop your average burglar.
22:57 < Casteil> yeah, especially if they're not aware it's there
22:57 < Casteil> I've mulled over having a hidden room in my basement
22:58 < Casteil> for gun storage & network gear/NVR
22:58 < Casteil> and my server
22:58 < Casteil> although the server makes enough noise that it'd probably give away the fact that there's hidden shit
22:58 < Heresiarch> biggest problem I saw was heat handling. But adding a vent to the closet would probably have involved an order of magnitude more pain in the ass.
22:59 < Casteil> yeah
22:59 < Casteil> in my basement I don't think it'd be much of an issue unless I made the room tiny
23:00 < agent_white> Only slightly less conceiled with the light-switch right next to the bookcase... wonder why it was put outside the room instead of inside of it.
23:00 < tsarbomba> anybody here go by the name gypsy danger
23:00 < Casteil> that said, there is this small area that's like 3 feet deep, 4 feet tall, and about 4-5 feet wide that I could use for both a gun storage area and network/server
23:02 < tsarbomba> are you building your prepper bunker?
23:03 < Casteil> https://i.imgur.com/TTBxfQz.png
23:03 < Maarten> "redneck" closet cooling is typically a vent at the bottom of the closet door, and then a fan expelling heat into the outdoors or the attic space.... "redneck" because it cools the closet to the same temperature as the room it is in, so it "leeches" off of the house AC that way if you have one.
23:03 < Casteil> I think that'd work fairly well for a hidden area
23:03 < Casteil> not entirely sure how I'd pull it off and make it inconspicuous though
23:05 < vinrock> make it a basement banya
23:05 < Maarten> i have thought about it too... including moving all of my internet stuff in a closet. I'd only need a shelf, really.
23:05 < vinrock> https://i.pinimg.com/736x/40/1e/55/401e55039776d01aa6308249d49e3a57--sauna-house-home-sauna-room.jpg
23:05 < vinrock> boosh yo
23:05 < vinrock> perfect for that space
23:05 < rhqq> well, all my internet stuff is a single beefy router...
23:05 < Casteil> lol
23:06 < rhqq> but cant get it into the basement anyway :/
23:06 < Casteil> honestly I could just sheath the walls with 3/4" plywood and put a security door on it
23:06 < rhqq> yup
23:06 < Casteil> that way it's definitely secure and not just hidden
23:06 < Gencade> MillerBOSS, ping
23:06 < Gencade> MillerBOSS, ping ping
23:07 < Casteil> and that way I wouldn't really have to buy a gun safe
23:07 < Gencade> MillerBOSS, I need mac help, I want to completely thrash the main partition of a macbook, but it asks for a password to a disk whenever I enter recovery, what's the best way to do a clean install on it without knowing the password to the main partition
23:08 < Maarten> i've been thinking of getting a handgun. I wouldn't advertise it in any way though.... police has actually said that putting up signs that tell passers by you have a gun is actually quite stupid, same with stickers on your car. Houses with known guns in them are targets.
23:08 <@JollyRgrs> anyone here against Silicon Power brand SSD? I'm not looking for top performance... just SSD vs 7200rpm performance
23:08 < rhqq> why
23:08 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820301366&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL042418&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL042418-_-EMC-042418-Index-_-InternalSSDs-_-Blitz-20301366-S0&ignorebbr=1
23:09 < rhqq> JollyRgrs: try to grab samsung 850/860 evos
23:09 <@JollyRgrs> rhqq: i'm looking for budget friendly
23:09 < SynMonger> for that price even if it only lasts a year it's a deal
23:09 < rhqq> there are decent discounts for them very often
23:09 < rhqq> especially now they're selling 970s
23:09 < Maarten> I have  samsung 850 m.2 515 GB as my boot drive. Windows boots up in like 8 seconds
23:10 < Casteil> $55 for 240GB isn't *that* crazy
23:10 < Casteil> SSD prices have been dropping like a brick lately
23:10 < Casteil> keep your eyes peeled on Slickdeals.net for new SSD deals
23:10 < rhqq> yeah
23:10 <@JollyRgrs> Maarten: i have a 360gb not-m.2 ssd from intel and it takes me less than 10 seconds from when i click reboot to when i log back into discord and say howdy
23:10 < SynMonger> that sounds painful
23:10 < rhqq> i grabbed my 512 850 evo for like 110usd
23:10 < Casteil> not too long ago there was a 2TB SSD for $270
23:11 < rhqq> yeah, but well... i want something that lasts longer than 2-3 years :P
23:11 < Maarten> sorry I got my models mixed up, I have a Samsung 950 Pro 512 GB.
23:11 <@JollyRgrs> hmm, gotcha, i'll check out slickdeals then
23:11 < hxcsp> my pc boots in under 10s with an 850 ssd
23:11 < hxcsp> non m2
23:11 < rhqq> lulz
23:12 < rhqq> my boots in 3s
23:12 < rhqq> ;p
23:12 < hxcsp> im happy with 10
23:12 < tsarbomba> THEY FREED MEEK MILL
23:12 < rhqq> well, with 3s boot up time i no longer need to suspend/hibernate
23:12 < Casteil> My OS is still using my old 128GB Vertex
23:12 < Casteil> vertex 3?
23:12 < rhqq> and given im using laptop.....
23:12 < tsarbomba> who gives a fuck about your little 'pooter? THEY FUCKING FREED MEEK MILL
23:13 < tsarbomba> it's PARTYTIME
23:13 < Casteil> Vertex 4, 128GB, purchased in May 2012 for $130
23:13 < Casteil> so it's going on 6 years now heh
23:13 < Maarten> good for him
23:14 < Maarten> I don't give a fuck about freek mill, I do give a fuck about my pooter.
23:14 < tsarbomba> show of hands from anyone who knew who meek mill was before he was imprisoned?
23:14 < Casteil> ahhhhh... nice... setting the default action in Gmail (android app) from "archive" to "Delete" changed the action in the Notification menu too
23:14 < SynMonger> I don't know who that is now
23:14 < tsarbomba> hee
23:14 < Maarten> I didn't know who the fuck he was before or after he was put in prison
23:15 < Maarten> I had to google the name just NOW.
23:15 < tsarbomba> i'll bet you two know who morrissey is though
23:15 < Maarten> so, he didn't make much of an impact ;)
23:15 < tsarbomba> checkmate, sucka
23:15 < SynMonger> no
23:15 < Maarten> I know who jim morrison was....
23:15 < tsarbomba> that's the dude with the mullet who wrote bad poetry and screamed while the doors were trying to play music behind him, right?
23:16 < Maarten> that's the one.
23:16 < Maarten> I still don't give a fuck about meek mill :P
23:16 < tsarbomba> apparently now neither does the irs
23:16 < Hatter> tsarbomba: that's rather reductive
23:19 < Maarten> reading his rap sheet. Drug dealing. Illegal gun posession. Assault. Multiple Parole violations. Great son-in-law potential there.
23:28 < Gencade> ```````````````````````]'/]
23:29 < Gencade> any mac geniuses in here?
23:30 < voidstar> they can't fix your problem probably since they don't have the tools
23:33 < SynMonger> *shakes fist* PENTALOBE!
23:33 < Gencade> MillerBOSS, I need mac help, I want to completely thrash the main partition of a macbook, but it asks for a password to a disk whenever I enter recovery, what's the best way to do a clean install on it without knowing the password to the main partition
23:36 < grumplestiltzkin> I think the official Apple answer is buy a new mac
23:39 < rhqq> :D
23:39 < Gencade> fuck grumplestiltzkin cmonbruh
23:40 < Gencade> I wanna actually use this shit
23:40 < rhqq> that's not the apple way
23:40 < rhqq> you need to sacrifice a goat
23:40 < rhqq> and a pumpkin latte with soy milk
23:40 < rhqq> or something equally disguisting
23:43 < tsarbomba> gencade, buy a rifle with the biggest bore you can find and aim it at the macbook
23:43 < tsarbomba> voila: partition thrashed
23:45 <+TuxedoJack> Gencade: can't boot to external media / Internet Recovery?
23:45 <+TuxedoJack> Boot to Internet Recovery, use Disk Utility, wipe the fucker, done
23:45 <+TuxedoJack> Or boot to a Linux liveboot and do it through GParted
23:46 < vavkamil> can I use <link> html tag outside of head?
23:47 < rhqq> vavkamil: correct question would be "is it correct to use..." :P because you can... html is just an xml..
23:47 < Gencade> I did that TuxedoJack and it wants a password
23:47 <+TuxedoJack> Gencade: Internet Recovery, or just Recovery?
23:47 < Gencade> recovery
23:47 <+TuxedoJack> Boot to Internet Recovery
23:47 <+TuxedoJack> Diskless WAN PXEboot
23:48 < Gencade> command R?
23:48 <+TuxedoJack> Command Option R
23:48 < Gencade> trying now
23:48 < Gencade> didn't know this was a thing tux
23:49 <+TuxedoJack> Slow as fuck, but it comes in handy
23:49 <+TuxedoJack> Like TuxPE, but shitty
23:49 < vavkamil> rhqq, I have website with two frontends, desktop and mobile. According to google, I should use annotations: link rel=”alternate”, rel=”canonical”, but the documentations doesn't state if it must be in head or not
23:51 < rhqq> vavkamil: https://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_link.asp "Note: This element goes only in the head section, but it can appear any number of times."
23:51 < rhqq> 5 seconds of googling man...
23:52 <+TuxedoJack> The next stupid fucking tier 1 that installs a fucking shared printer as WSD is getting fired
23:52 <+TuxedoJack> Fucking sick of that shit
23:54 < vavkamil> the question is if google crawler bot will ignore it outside of head or not, but either way, I'm going to mess up my google search appearance
23:55 < rhqq> i doubt it takes it into consideration
23:55 < rhqq> so it has to be where specification requires it
23:55 < rhqq> it's like... "correct usage is assumed"
23:56 <+NinjaStyle> good day sirs
23:58 < Hatsjoe> ihre: sure I'll print you one :P
23:58 < Hatsjoe> Was looking into making one for myself too
23:58 <+TuxedoJack> Gencade: it got in, right?
23:58 < Hatsjoe> Still need to buy a new dremel though
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