--- Log opened Wed Apr 25 00:00:57 2018
00:18 < Gencade`> is it friday
00:20 < Maarten> Gencade`, yes.
00:20 < Gencade`> oh thanks Maarten
00:20 < Gencade`> Happy weekend everyone
00:20 < Gencade`> seeya on monday
00:20 < Maarten> Don't believe what anyone else tells you. it's friday.
00:20 < Gencade`> um, well now that you say that
00:20 < Gencade`> it makes me think you were bamboozling me
00:20 < Maarten> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa2nLEhUcZ0
00:20 <+layer-eight> YouTube The Cure - Friday Im In Love by 2008-04-14T13:00:11.000Z (duration: 3:40) on Mon Apr 14 20:00:11 UTC 2008, 2008-04-14T13:00:11.000Z views
00:21 < m4221> Sousapro: hey
00:21 < Gencade`> m4221: eat a bag of dicks
00:21 < m4221> Anyone around?
00:21 < Gencade`> just you
00:22 < m4221> Gencade: ha no
00:22 < rhqq> :D
00:22 < rhqq> >>(00:21:50) Gencade`: m4221: eat a bag of dicks
00:22 < rhqq> ;DDDD
00:22 < m4221> rhqq: we use vsphere 5.1 still ...
00:22 < Maarten> s/dicks/skittles
00:22 <+layer-eight> rhqq meant: ">>(00:21:50) Gencade`: m4221: eat a bag of skittles"
00:22 < Gencade`> skittles are gross
00:23 < rhqq> well, so it doesnt really change the message :PP
00:23 < Maarten> s/skittles/m&ms
00:23 <+layer-eight> Gencade` meant: "mskittlesms are gross"
00:23 < Gencade`> nice try
00:23 < Maarten> oh bugger
00:23 < rhqq> :E
00:23 < Gencade`> :(
00:23 < rhqq> m&ms are tasty, especially ones with nuts
00:23 < Gencade`> I bet you like nuts
00:23 < rhqq> yeah, let me play with mine for you
00:23 < rhqq> xD
00:31 <+NinjaStyle> whats up dudes
00:31 < rhqq> it's wednesday
00:32 < voidstar> my dudes
00:32 < rhqq> =]
00:32 < Gencade`> NinjaStyle: working on a mac
00:32 <+NinjaStyle> fun?
00:32 < Gencade`> no
00:32 <+NinjaStyle> :(
00:33 < Gencade`> :(((
00:33 <+NinjaStyle> at least you dont have 2 mobile app pentests in the next 2 wekks
00:33 <+NinjaStyle> weeks*
00:33 < Gencade`> Wish the recovery would just let me wipe the current main partition though
00:35 < bvierra> ahh I love when legal hears the magic words and does what I want
00:35 < bvierra> 'if we allow developers to put the production database on their development machine we could have a "databreach"'
00:36 < bvierra> legal: "We absolutely cannot allow developers to have any access to the production database"
00:36 < bvierra> sorry mr project manager, legal says
00:37 < Kobe`> shouldnt the PM be talking to legal anyway
00:37 < Kobe`> not oyu
00:37 < Gencade`> PMs do anything?
00:39 < rpifan> hello
00:39 < rpifan> that was a pretty good second dsy of work
00:39 < rpifan> i think im impressing my bosses
00:40 < Gencade`> rpifan: did you remember to cup the balls?
00:41 < rpifan> what balls
00:43 < rhqq> bollocks
00:44 < rpifan> i need to convince my work that AD can be implemented to support linux and be compliant with the GDPR
00:44 < rhqq> fsck, gdpr
00:45 < rhqq> in fact, is there any tl'dr about that dgpr thing ?
00:45 < rpifan> idk
00:46 < bvierra> Kobe`, heh your hilarious
00:46 < bvierra> they put up requirement that they expect us to just 'do'
00:48 < bvierra> rhqq, kinda sorta
00:48 < rhqq> bvierra: ?
00:48 < Kobe`> who helps scope out the requirements?
00:48 < bvierra> Kobe`, they try to... I run Ops (SRE/DevOps/Security) so when they go to far I put a stop to it
00:49 < Kobe`> time to manage up
00:49 < bvierra> I did
00:49 < bvierra> rhqq, I use things like: https://www.sqlshack.com/using-production-data-testing-post-gdpr-world/
00:49 < bvierra> coupled with legal on ouyr end
00:50 < rpifan> bvierra, would u be willing to help with this gdpr linux thing
00:50 < bvierra> our end
00:50 < bvierra> whats the gdpr linux thing?
00:50 < rpifan> work keeps saying they cant let us use linux because of the GDPR and AD
00:50 < bvierra> yea thats BS
00:51 < rpifan> bvierra, im gonan go stare down the infrastrucutre guy tommorow, what kind of things should i tell him
00:51 < rpifan> what kind of data should i get back from him
00:51 < rpifan> etc
00:51 < ihre> kek still on that boat rpifan, i thought bossman gave you the OK for it ? :P
00:51 < bvierra> so basically it comes down to this, if you do business in EU (or cater to the EU) then the data on EU citizens needs to be processed and stored in the eu
00:52 < rpifan> yes we have a subsidary in europe
00:52 < bvierra> it has nothing to do with authentication and what method you do
00:52 < rpifan> well he changed his mind
00:52 < bvierra> yea thats fine, the issue has nothing to do with the OS you use or your authentication
00:53 < bvierra> it has everything to do on where your EU data lives
00:53 < rpifan> but i guess what there concern is that, if you run linux then u could leak data and that would violate the gdpr
00:53 < rpifan> is my understanding
00:53 < ihre> Finally, first step of the gitlab pipeline works, building on k8s and pushing to a registry, now on to the next steps, putting an apache reverse proxy in front with ldap auth
00:53 <+MillerBOSS> What?
00:54 < bvierra> so you work at a company that knows nothing re security
00:54 < ihre> then helm deployment should be fine :3
00:54 < bvierra> or they are a MS only shop
00:54 < rpifan> bvierra, what cna i tell you
00:54 < rpifan> no there not MS they run os x
00:54 < rpifan> already
00:54 < rpifan> what the infra guy said was that he was using AD And some other thing for os x
00:54 < rpifan> and it was driving him nuts
00:54 < bvierra> are you trying to run linux on your desktop?
00:55 < rpifan> yes
00:55 < rpifan> we have assigned laptops
00:55 < rpifan> not just me tho
00:55 < rpifan> apparently there are other linux devs
00:55 < bvierra> then your that 1 ass that is trying to get around the policies and procedures of a co
00:55 < bvierra> run windows 10 and use WLS
00:55 < bvierra> WSL
00:55 < rpifan> im not the only one it seems
00:55 < rpifan> i had a quick chat with the CTO
00:55 < ihre> i/we sent you all the required links re ad and windows through sssd yesterday rpifan
00:55 < ihre> pls dtn
00:55 < bvierra> with vcXsrv
00:56 < rpifan> nah
00:56 < bvierra> the issue here is that they use specific software that does scanning for 'high security' docs
00:56 < bvierra> and it cant monitor linux because < 1% of the workforce uses linux as a desktop
00:56 < rpifan> well there is nothing running on our systems that depends on windows
00:56 < bvierra> so the creators never made a linux plugin
00:57 < rpifan> half the team is on os x as it is
00:57 < ihre> also, just start with just a vm to make sure it works and you can show something to the ad guys
00:57 <+MillerBOSS> Whats happening here?
00:57 < bvierra> there very well could be an OSX plugin
00:57 < rpifan> ihre, yea thats part of what im planing on doing
00:57 < bvierra> what I am saying is: Run windows 10 with WSL
00:57 < ihre> MillerBOSS: nothin, just chillin, killin
00:57 < bvierra> I am telling you it works fine
00:57 < bvierra> its how I run everything on my comp
00:57 <+MillerBOSS> OK, ihre
00:57 < rpifan> well still im gonan try to get 5 minutes with this guy to see what the concern si
00:58 < rpifan> totally not my department
00:58 < rpifan> but i was made a promise
00:58 < bvierra> welcome to the working world
00:58 < bvierra> promises change as security requirements do
00:58 < bvierra> why do you have to run linux?
00:58 < rpifan> yea but why should the GDP make a difference
00:58 < bvierra> why not use WSL?
00:58 < Sousapro> s/promises/bald faced lies
00:58 <+layer-eight> bvierra meant: "bald faced lies change as security requirements do"
00:58 < rpifan> GPR make a different
00:59 < bvierra> layer-eight, shh, no reading between the lines... even when they are that clear
00:59 < Gnut> Hello! Can anyone here provide some insight on why syscall `poll(..)` would be causing timeouts when stracing a curl call.
00:59 < bvierra> rpifan, because someone higher up made the decision to not allow linux
00:59 < rpifan> hm
00:59 < rpifan> that is possible
00:59 < bvierra> why not just use WSL?
00:59 < rpifan> cause its stil windows
00:59 < rpifan> and its a huge pain in the ass to install anythign
00:59 < Gnut> We believe our issue is network related but I'm workign on a smoking gun
01:00 < bvierra> rpifan, not at all
01:00 < rpifan> it took ages to just install python
01:00 < bvierra> you get sudo access
01:00 < rpifan> cause u got download everything
01:00 < rpifan> and then add it ot the path in the fucken gui
01:00 < bvierra> install WSL, then install your linux of choice
01:00 < rpifan> and do it 20 times
01:00 < bvierra> I am running terminator in mine right now
01:00 < bvierra> do yourself a favor, dont fight the system... you dont wanna be that guy
01:00 < rpifan> well ill take all this info and synthesis it and see if i can chat to the guy and get answers
01:00 < madvillain> bvierra: WSL is nice I can have the best of both worlds
01:01 < rpifan> i dont see why not
01:01 < bvierra> look into WSL + vcXsrv
01:01 < rpifan> i was also promise that they were open to suggestions and willing ot make changes
01:01 < bvierra> rpifan, and now they arent
01:01 < rpifan> i already started on a python script to automate the work that we do in my department
01:01 < bvierra> *sigh*
01:01 < bvierra> forget it
01:01 < bvierra> you dont wanna listen
01:01 < bvierra> Gnut, poll is just that, it is polling for data
01:02 < rpifan>  well the good part of all of this is
01:02 < rpifan> my direct boss is quite impresssed
01:02 < rpifan> also i blame it all on the irc ppl "i know"
01:03 < Gnut> bvierra: So if i'm seeing poll timeouts when making a curl call, would that mean it's waiting for the file descriptor to receive data, or it's trying to open it
01:03 < ihre> Gnut: i'm not super familiar with syscall, or, how to explain it, but maybe you can find something with netstat that correlates with the poll(), like a CLOSE_WAIT/FIN_WAIT2
01:03 < rpifan> yall are the ones feeding me evil ideas lol
01:03 < bvierra> Gnut, waiting for the FD to receive data
01:04 < rpifan> i will say tho in general they are quite nice to me
01:04 < rpifan> and they keep feeding me info
01:04 < rpifan> and i keep soaking it up
01:04 < bvierra> so dont fight everything
01:04 < bvierra> especially when you have a work around
01:05 < bvierra> your boss ok'd it, it got back to the desktop team / infra team and the nixed the idea
01:05 < bvierra> thats within their prerogative
01:05 < ihre> oh well i've fixed my shit today, time for a beer
01:05 < Gnut> ihere, bvierra: Cool, thanks
01:07 <+MillerBOSS> What kind ihre ?
01:07 < ihre> heineken today
01:08 <+MillerBOSS> I never had that
01:08 < ihre> its 'okay'
01:08 < ihre> grolsch is better
01:08 < ihre> :D
01:10 < rhqq> i dont like green bottle beers
01:10 < rpifan> ive already been screwed over about most of the promises the company made me
01:10 < rpifan> ill be damnded if i lose linux
01:10 < rpifan> its linux or i quit
01:10 < rpifan> dont really give a fuck
01:11 < madvillain> rpifan: if thats the hill you want to die on
01:11 < Sousapro> anyone know of a way to get multiple car insurance quotes without filling out 100 forms?
01:11 < rpifan> it is actually
01:11 < rpifan> im more then happy to do the leg work myeslf
01:11 < rpifan> and take on a role totally unassigned if thats what needed
01:12 < rpifan> if i have to work 3 days straight ill go for it
01:12 < Sousapro> if they don't want you, head elsewhere
01:13 < Sousapro> no employer is worth this level of grief
01:13 < rpifan> i thikn they want me
01:13 < rpifan> quite a bit actually
01:13 < rpifan> but im starting to learn what its like to work in a comapny where things are segregated by teams entirely
01:13 < rpifan> this is new to me
01:14 < rpifan> a bigger point is if i get this done
01:14 < rpifan> then so many other ppl can benefit from it
01:14 < ihre> Sousapro: in the netherlands we have independer.nl, which does exactly that, i guess there is a such a site in the US as well :P
01:14 < rpifan> its a little grain to improving the world
01:15 < rpifan> i get it too, the infra guy doesnt want to do a lot more work
01:16 < rpifan> he is already overloaded with having to admin win and os x entirely independelty
01:16 < rpifan> so adding one more system is overwhelming to him
01:16 < ihre> https://www.confused.com/car-insurance ?
01:17 < rpifan> ideally theyd tranfer me from the "Tech support" deparmtne to the infra department
01:17 < rpifan> then thered be happiness
01:18 < rpifan> or to the internal helpdesk department
01:18 < rpifan> i think its just one guy that manages it
01:20 < czarbomba> anybody here fallen down and can't get up?
01:20 < rpifan> me
01:22 <+MillerBOSS> tsarbomba has
01:23 < czarbomba> when was the last time you weren't drunk, millerboss?
01:23 <+MillerBOSS> Now
01:23 < czarbomba> perjury
01:27 < mal_will> My whole department just leaves at 4:30
01:27 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> mal_will: The question is, why don't you?
01:27 < mal_will> I like my jerb when no one is here tbh
01:28 < mal_will> I wonder what those fuckers do with their bonus hour and thirty every day though
01:28 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> mal_will: You make it sound like you don't get along with those people lol
01:28 < mal_will> They all just ask a ton of questions all the time
01:28 < mkillebrew> or even better, work remotely
01:28 < mal_will> I wishhhh
01:28 < mkillebrew> join the 21st century
01:29 < mal_will> 21st century?
01:29 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> mkillebrew: Ha, If it were that easy, all jobs would be in India by now.
01:29 < mal_will> what are all these damn office buildings for?
01:29 < czarbomba> mal_will, money laundering
01:29 < madvillain> Yea for some reason my work believes if you are working from home you arent "really" working
01:29 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> ^
01:30 < mal_will> My boss is ok with one day a week, but not perma remote
01:30 < mkillebrew> India is great for unskilled or "we need an idiot to google then copy and paste"
01:30 <+CheckYourSix> Companies need to let more remote work happen
01:31 < mal_will> It's kind of a nightmare though
01:31 < mal_will> Clean desk policy?
01:31 < mal_will> retrieval of offboarded employee assets?
01:31 < madvillain> My company has mostly remote workers..... just not IT
01:31 < mkillebrew> five years at Oracle I was remote, and a year at the place before now, and this past year and a half currently is 100% remote
01:31 < mkillebrew> it's not some new thing
01:31 < mal_will> or like, having third-parties accessing the house without prior written approval?
01:32 < mal_will> For HIPAA it's a nightmare
01:32 < czarbomba> lolwat
01:32 < mal_will> and I'm in healthcare. How is a Dr. gonna be remote?
01:32 < czarbomba> why would you have PHI on your home machine
01:32 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> CheckYourSix: I agree, but still, it's a dangerous combo. That's when they "well, CheckYourSix, we pay you $85K and you work from home 95% of the time. We'll just pay India $25K and contract anything else we might need. SEE YA!"
01:32 < czarbomba> you're not a doctor
01:32 < mal_will> you have email and ehr software on your machine
01:32 < mal_will> you have a portal into PHI land
01:32 < mkillebrew> My friend does DoD contracting, he's also 100% remote
01:32 < czarbomba> i'm not sure you understand hipaa
01:32 <+CheckYourSix> SysAdminGoneCraZ: If they want stuff done right, India isn't the answer
01:33 <+MillerBOSS> lol
01:33 < mal_will> no...computer, access HIPAA
01:33 < rpifan> i too am working on getting WFH priveledgs a lot of them work ppl do it already
01:33 < rpifan> we got a team in the uk and spain
01:33 < mkillebrew> HIPAA doesn't mean air-gapped and require you to be present
01:34 < czarbomba> friday: "i work from home 100% of the time, how awesome!" monday: "can you believe those fucks replaced me with someone in the philippines???"
01:34 < mal_will> I'm just pretty sure half of our employees would be mega upset if only corp people worked form home though. bad enough the corp people don't get drug tested and the dr.s do
01:34 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> czarbomba: lol
01:34 < rpifan> lol
01:34 < mkillebrew> I did HIPAA at Oracle, while remote
01:34 <+TuxedoJack> czarbomba: and that is why you do what I do and know where the bodies are buried
01:34 <+TuxedoJack> And how much room there is to fit more
01:34 < mal_will> We have policies for clean desk, no unauthorized third party access to buildings, immediate retrieval of assets upon termination
01:35 < mal_will> I can't see how to enforce those in a person's house
01:35 < rpifan> wow
01:35 < rpifan> thats quite a bit of work there
01:35 < mkillebrew> vidya time
01:35 <+MillerBOSS> Its called disable access
01:35 < mal_will> We also have the deal of all offices have to have cameras her her and there, this kind of security, a burn bin, etc
01:36 < czarbomba> do you work for a doctor or the CDC
01:36 < mal_will> the policy isn't just disabled access, it's retrieval as well
01:36 <+TuxedoJack> czarbomba: financial shit too
01:36 < mal_will> I work for a big healthcare company
01:36 <+TuxedoJack> Regulations are a motherfucker and a half
01:36 < rpifan> hm
01:36 < czarbomba> funny, i worked from home for 7 straight years dealing with hipaa and sox and never had a problem
01:37 < rpifan> i have a lot of hippa info and i dont give a shit
01:37 < mal_will> I mean, they usually exist because someone fucked the company with a loophole
01:37 < rpifan> all my eal info isnt protected anyway
01:37 < czarbomba> rpifan be all like I'MMA HAND OUT YO HEALTH INFO YOLO
01:37 < mal_will> I mean, IT people are one thing, but you know how it goes
01:37 < rpifan> yes
01:37 < mal_will> why is IT remote, but not VPS?
01:38 < rpifan> the info that describes ur lief like ur CCs arent protected
01:38 < rpifan> are all of the info on FB
01:38 < mal_will> why are VPs but not analytics, etc etc.
01:38 <+MillerBOSS> Am I in the right channel
01:38  * MillerBOSS looks
01:38 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> mal_will: A clean desk policy, that's a new one. My desk is chuck full of small projects that I bounce around from. IDK, but I'm one of those types that sees through all the chaos and it makes sense.
01:38 < czarbomba> #wastedonnighttrain is two doors down, on the left
01:38 < mal_will> It's more that all protected health info is locked away in the supplied lock places
01:38 < czarbomba> a 'clean desk policy" is another way of saying a soon-to-be bankrupt employer
01:38 < mal_will> they don't like, make you lysol
01:39 <+MillerBOSS> Thanks czarbomba. You are the best!!
01:39 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> mal_will: Oh lol
01:39 < czarbomba> here to help
01:39 < mal_will> "I wanna be able to eat of this shit, Karen!"
01:39 < czarbomba> fart into your chair? EMERGENCY FEBREZE DEPLOYMENT
01:39 < czarbomba> overhead system like halon
01:40 < mal_will> swat busts out the windows via rappel line
01:40 < czarbomba> "you have exceeded allowable levels of nutsweat"
01:40 < mal_will> I feel like it could get intense though
01:41 < mal_will> would you work from home if like, the webcam was on the whole day
01:41 < czarbomba> the war against nutsweat is no joke
01:41 < mal_will> couldn't disable it, it's just gaping at you
01:41 <+MillerBOSS> lol czarbomba
01:42 <+MillerBOSS> I would set it up Speed style but longer loops
01:43 < Hunterkll> mal_will, shit, half the time i barely even have clothes on before the end of the day
01:43 < mal_will> so yes?
01:43 < Hunterkll> i'd have to change employers.... ;)
01:43 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Hunterkll: Keep talking, you got my attention. :)
01:43 < mal_will> Maybe they'd be into it
01:44 < czarbomba> weebsgonewild.com
01:44 < voidstar> nooo
01:45 < mkillebrew> I forgot, Activision can
01:45 < mkillebrew> can't keep their servers up after people are off work
01:49 <+MillerBOSS> The candy man can
01:49 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78gt7pfjlCU
01:49 <+layer-eight> YouTube Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory - "The Candy Man Can" by 2010-10-14T14:44:51.000Z (duration: 2:50) on Thu Oct 14 21:44:51 UTC 2010, 2010-10-14T14:44:51.000Z views
01:58 <+MillerBOSS> Why are the coins going up?
02:04 < Casteil> lol @ march - april
02:04 < Casteil> average temperature was lower than february - march
02:04 <+CheckYourSix> Casteil: About the same here
02:04 <+DrGibby|> evening nerds
02:05 < Casteil> finally starting to warm up here at least
02:05 < Casteil> last two days were around 70f
02:05 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZEdDMQZaCU
02:05 < Gencade> fuck you DrGibby|
02:05 <+layer-eight> YouTube Revenge of the Nerds - NERDS! by 2010-02-18T04:45:50.000Z (duration: 4s) on Thu Feb 18 11:45:50 UTC 2010, 2010-02-18T04:45:50.000Z views
02:05 <+MillerBOSS> GET THOSE NERDS!!!
02:05 <+DrGibby|> hey Gencade, get herpes and die
02:05 <+CheckYourSix> Casteil: Same. We push into the upper 70s/low 80s next week
02:05 < Gencade> maybe after I wipe this macbook I just acquired DrGibby|
02:06 < Casteil> CheckYourSix: heh, nice
02:06 < Casteil> sounds like skipping spring and going straight from winter to summer basically
02:06 <+CheckYourSix> Not really. Fuck hot weather and humidity
02:06 <+DrGibby|> pls do it sooner
02:06 <+CheckYourSix> Pretty much
02:06 < Gencade> I can't
02:06 < Casteil> our low's are still getting down below freezing occasionally, but the lowest high for the next week is 50
02:06 < Gencade> .yt bitch key and peele
02:06 <+layer-eight> YouTube Key & Peele - I Said Bitch - https://youtu.be/5LGEiIL1__s
02:06 < Casteil> next tuesday looks like it's supposed to be 80
02:07 <+CheckYourSix> Yeah ours are pretty much the same
02:07 <+CheckYourSix> Kinda surprising
02:07 <+MillerBOSS> Hey next time you ask for help from me stay online, hey. Regarding your question what kind of Macintosh, is the drive a hard disk or solid state/flash, if flash is it soldered to teh board, etc, etc
02:07 <+MillerBOSS> Gencade 👉 ^
02:07 < Gencade> MillerBOSS, sorry,
02:07 < Gencade> standby
02:07 <+MillerBOSS> Get a bouncer
02:07 <+MillerBOSS> I can add you to mine
02:07 <+CheckYourSix> Gencade: You don't have a bouncer?
02:08 <+DrGibby|> no, he's a newb
02:08 <+MillerBOSS> Clearly
02:08 <+CheckYourSix> Gencade: GTFO without a bouncer
02:08 < Gencade> guys one problem at a time
02:08 <+DrGibby|> Gencade: your life is a problem
02:08 <+MillerBOSS> But you are the problem Gencade
02:08 <+MillerBOSS> HA HA
02:08 < Gencade> well fuck guys
02:08  * Gencade ragequits
02:08 < Casteil> CheckYourSix: it's been kinda nice not having to have my furnace run the last few days
02:08 <+MillerBOSS> Time to reboot yourself Gencade
02:09 <+MillerBOSS> K bye
02:09 < Gencade> MillerBOSS, that sounds like a techy way to tell me to kill myself
02:09 < Gencade> you shouldn't bully MillerBOSS
02:09 <+MillerBOSS> Bully? LOL
02:09 < Casteil> actually been nearly 3 days since it's run... most likely going to kick on tonight though since it never got particularly warm today and is supposed to be down in the low 40s
02:09 <+MillerBOSS> #meetoo
02:09 < Gencade> #methree
02:09 <+CheckYourSix> Casteil: Nice
02:09 <+MillerBOSS> @snowflakes
02:09 < Gencade> Alright so elemme get the specs for you
02:09 <+CheckYourSix> I've been opening windows at night to cool it all
02:09 <+MillerBOSS> And #snowflakes
02:09 < mal_will> I'm gonna start pronouncing RSA tokens as Race Tokens. see if anyone corrects me
02:10  * DrGibby| shudders 
02:10 <+DrGibby|> pls no
02:10 < Gencade> I'm in recovery right now MillerBOSS
02:10 < mal_will> That and synnamontec
02:10 <+MillerBOSS> How did you enter recovery?
02:10 < Gencade> how can I get the model of the device
02:10 <+DrGibby|> Mozzarella Foxfire
02:10 < Gencade> it's just a macbook pro, not sure the year
02:10 < mal_will> My boss does say foxfire
02:10 < Gencade> CMD + OPTION + R
02:11 < Gencade> I booted into internet recvoery
02:11 < Gencade> when I tried to reinstall, it requires a password which I assume is the local login
02:11 < Gencade> Which I don't know
02:11 <+MillerBOSS> Don't assume. It could be iCloud
02:12 < Gencade> I think I tried the previous person's icloud password on there, lemme try it again
02:12 <+MillerBOSS> What is the model on the bottom case
02:12 <+MillerBOSS> Starts with an A
02:13 <+MillerBOSS> Otherwise take the serial number int he same spot to https://checkcoverage.apple.com/ and it will tell you what you got
02:13 <+DrGibby|> Apple
02:13 < Gencade> A1502
02:13 < Gencade> Tried the icloud login, no dice
02:16 < czarbomba> everybody's all about beyonce but remember she only TIED lil jon a few years back when he released "turn down for what"
02:17 <+DrGibby|> why are you trying to login to iCloud?
02:17 <+DrGibby|> can you just wipe and start fresh?
02:17 < Gencade> I'm not, MillerBOSS suggested to try that login to get into the machine
02:17 <+DrGibby|> oh
02:17 < Gencade> I was doing that in recovery DrGibby| , but
02:17 < Gencade> it requires a password
02:17 <+MillerBOSS> one sec. Phone call. iCloud lock can disable you to do nothing with the machine
02:19 < czarbomba> millerboss, how many hours a week do you spend at starbucks gesticulating at your iphone for others to witness
02:21 < mkillebrew> One would gesticulate at an xbox kinect, not an iphone.
02:22 < mkillebrew> they don't work like that
02:22 < czarbomba> i see millebrew has never seen an iphone owner
02:22 < mkillebrew> I don't wave my limbs about at mine
02:23 < mal_will> Try not to think about your tongue right now
02:23 < mkillebrew> and there are like 80 million iPhone users in the US, are you trying to say they all sit at Starbucks, looking like a whacky waving tube man
02:23 < czarbomba> how many starbucks are there
02:24 < mkillebrew> like at least a dozen
02:24 < madvillain> on one block
02:25 < czarbomba> well multiply the number of starbucks by at least 20 and you'll get your count
02:25 < czarbomba> https://i.pinimg.com/originals/00/65/4b/00654b553bdde7d6249400abd568b65f.jpg
02:25 < mkillebrew> yes, people use phones at Starbucks, this isn't news
02:25 < czarbomba> the math is more difficult when you try to calculate macbook users
02:26 < czarbomba> are you triggered because of the iphone joke, the starbucks joke, or both, millebrew?
02:26 < mkillebrew> Because of you using the word 'gesticulate' poorly
02:26 < mkillebrew> hate apple all you please
02:26 < czarbomba> both, then
02:26 <+MillerBOSS> Gencade 👉 Take a picture of that lock screen and show here
02:26 < czarbomba> i own apple hardware and attend starbucks regularly
02:26 < mkillebrew> cool
02:27 < Gencade> Which lock screeen, the one that I get when I try to login?
02:27 <+MillerBOSS> I don't go to Starbucks czarbomba
02:27 < Gencade> or in recovery?
02:27 < czarbomba> has your autism always been severe enough to make you think in these black/white terms or is that a recent development?
02:27 <+MillerBOSS> The one you are having issues with Gencade
02:27 < mal_will> gesticulate seems like it should involve genitals and specifically testicles
02:27 < mkillebrew> it can
02:27 < mal_will> but it doesn't. one of life's mysteries
02:27 < czarbomba> millerboss they burn their espresso beans but somehow they nail cold brew
02:27 < mal_will> indeed, it can
02:27 < mkillebrew> genuflect then gesticulate. spectacles, testicles, wallet, and watch
02:28 < mal_will> break!
02:28 < czarbomba> n-stage gesticulation. we're gonna have to remove 'em
02:28 < mal_will> will I get plastic ones?
02:28 < misspwn> anyone use LabTech?
02:29 < mal_will> nuh
02:29 < czarbomba> i used labtech for about 2.5 years but the second half of that was just basically banging out and updating the same few scripts
02:29 < Gencade> standby MillerBOSS
02:29 < misspwn> labtech removed their documentation online, but kept the links to their archives which goes nowhere so you have to use the knowledgebase D:
02:30 < czarbomba> aside from syntax-checking script parameters every so often i think i managed to avoid labtech online documentation altogether
02:31 < czarbomba> what's yr question? and keep in mind i haven't seen any labtech updates since early 2015
02:31 < Gencade> well I just erased the disk and it let me this time, using the disk utility instead of just clicking install MillerBOSS
02:31 < Gencade> I am attempting now to reinstall the OS
02:31 < czarbomba> can we convince you not to install osx, gencade
02:31 < misspwn> oh, no question really. i'm going to try to look up their documentation tomorrow to see why i can't install the agent on oracle solaris vm
02:31 < Gencade> czarbomba, sure, I'm already there,
02:31 < misspwn> was kinda annoyed with my googlefu earlier today
02:31 < Gencade> I am just playing around with this so I at least be comfortable in the environment
02:32 < Gencade> it's all about versatility you know czarbomba ?
02:32 < czarbomba> you know in all that time i don't think i installed the agent once on solaris
02:32 < misspwn> czarbomba, me too thanks hah
02:32 < misspwn> in fact, i haven't used solaris in over 10 years
02:32 < misspwn> guys are like, hey you like linux go figure this out
02:33 < czarbomba> professionally i did a bunch of testing home-rolled apps on sol9/10 a little over a decade ago
02:33 < czarbomba> haven't had cause to use it since. i have fired up my ultra 60 a few dozen times since
02:33 < czarbomba> i think it's on sol10 currently
02:33 < misspwn> like i don't even recall successfully installing solaris because it was so particular with hardware way back when
02:33  * m4221 pwns misspwns
02:33 < czarbomba> why do you think sunmicro branched out to RHEL
02:33  * m4221 pwns misspwn
02:33 < czarbomba> and amd dcpus
02:34 < czarbomba> -d
02:34 < misspwn> because they hate me?
02:34 < czarbomba> eh from a management perspective i'd rather RHEL than solaris
02:34 < czarbomba> and i cut my teeth on solaris/sun os
02:35 < misspwn> yeah man ,most of the stuff we have is CentOS which i mean it's basically the same
02:35 < czarbomba> oddly enough, tools to manage and automate linux distros are more technically mature than anything you can reliably run for sol
02:35 < misspwn> i had to do do a moodle server upgrade last week which was fun after finally figuring out how to do that on ubuntu
02:36 <+suttin> sup nerds
02:37 <+suttin> its because sun is old and no one wants to develop cool new tools for sun
02:37 < czarbomba> ayup
02:37 < misspwn> that's very true
02:37 < czarbomba> the foss community forgot about irix too :(
02:37 < misspwn> well i'm glad i finally joined here i had been hesitant because of the whole reddit
02:38 < czarbomba> eh i think half the ops don't even use reddit
02:38 < czarbomba> my old account is like permbanned
02:40 < m4221> Sousapro
02:40 < m4221> Hey
02:40 <+suttin> misspwn: you guys hiring?
02:40 < m4221> No
02:40 < sideup66> Shame with verizon
02:40 <+suttin> im not being creepy, I just know your nick from the st.louis irc
02:40 < sideup66> I was a long time customer
02:40 < misspwn> suttin, u doxxing me bro
02:40 < sideup66> Never going back
02:40 < misspwn> and yes we are actually hiring
02:41 < sideup66> "let's just punish prepaid users" that goes well
02:41 < m4221> Why are we still on vSphere 5.1???
02:41 < sideup66> Kek
02:41 < sideup66> Limit all video streams to 480p
02:41 < misspwn> m4221, pwning me "them are fighting words"
02:42 <+suttin> im debating leaving where I am, unless things turn for the better quickly
02:42 < czarbomba> ever melt the shit out of a reese's cup so you put it in the fridge and it comes out in the most interesting shapes
02:42 < m4221> misspwn: so?
02:42 < sideup66> Looool
02:42 < sideup66> suttin: why I left vz for cell
02:42 <+suttin> and I have like 4 months till my relocation assistance is forgiven
02:42 < sideup66> Tmo is alot better, calls and text service rival Verizon, 4g data can be meh at spots
02:43 < sideup66> But calls/texts, have been fine, though I get freakouts from ticket spam (work texts with system alerts)
02:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> herro
02:50 <+suttin> sideup66: im real happy with project fi
02:51 < sideup66> Hey McDonaldsWiFi
02:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> hi
02:51 < sideup66> And suttin yeah, but with the 55/mo I get 10 gb of data and work pays for it
02:51 < sideup66> :D
02:51 < BytesAndCoffee> oh the joys of account security
02:51 < BytesAndCoffee> lady locks herself out of her account
02:51 < BytesAndCoffee> support tool says its in DS lockout
02:52 < sideup66> So like 58 bucks after tax, and work covers 55 lol
02:52 < BytesAndCoffee> only way that happens is too many incorrect password attempts
02:52 <+suttin> sideup66: we get a 40 buck a month stipend, and then they tax it
02:52 < BytesAndCoffee> she can't use online self-serve, email on account is no longer active and its not letting her use her recovery email
02:53 < BytesAndCoffee> i can verify in our support tool, but only 1 question and had to use a secondary method (sms code)
02:53 < misspwn> I also have project fi and for the two phones its usually less than 55 month
02:54 < BytesAndCoffee> if we can't verify with just questions, the password reset we can send is delayed 24 hours as a security measure
02:54 < BytesAndCoffee> "that won't do" "thats the way it is" "well it won't do"
02:54 < BytesAndCoffee> ok lady, your fucking account
02:54 <@JollyRgrs> #helpdesk4lyfe
02:54 < BytesAndCoffee> "i'll figure out another way!"
02:54 < BytesAndCoffee> MFW there is no other way
02:56 < BytesAndCoffee> and its not a "may take up to 24 hours" thing
02:56 < misspwn> she's gona finally change her password to pr1nc3ss
02:57 < BytesAndCoffee> its like "ok, i can schedule the password reset anywhere between 24 and 72 hours from now"
02:57 < BytesAndCoffee> and it will arrive on the fucking minute
02:57 < sideup66> suttin: at my job Bill has to be what they pay out or higher
02:57 < BytesAndCoffee> by the end of my shift, she still hadn't reset her password
02:57 < sideup66> Can't be less
02:57 < sideup66> So I get the biggest package I can that falls into it
02:57 <+suttin> no, they pay us 40, and then they tax it
02:58 <+suttin> its better than nothing, because technically I'm never on call
02:58 <+suttin> I get paid to give my manager my phone number, that he already had
03:05 < m4221> Passive aggressive people annoy greatly
03:09 <+DrGibby|> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pooZSwGX5pI
03:09 <+layer-eight> YouTube Bird Feed by 2017-09-08T14:02:09.000Z (duration: 1:16) on Fri Sep 08 21:02:09 UTC 2017, 2017-09-08T14:02:09.000Z views
03:10 < m4221> DrGibby|:
03:10 < m4221> DrGibby|: anything good on livepd
03:10 < m4221> ?
03:12 < gavit> anyone have a recommendation for switch hadware vendors?
03:13 < gavit> looking for 2x 48 port switch rack mountable
03:13 < gavit> I'll need to add a fiber cable to it though
03:13 <+DrGibby|> arista
03:13 < gavit> for the uplink
03:14 <+DrGibby|> they're $$ though
03:14 < gavit> why recommend a pricy one? the service is that good?
03:14 <+DrGibby|> yes
03:14 <+DrGibby|> they're fucking solid switches
03:15 <+DrGibby|> when I get the money I'll buy an EOL one on ebay just so I can have 10g in the house
03:15 < gavit> I was looking more for something more commonly used like cisco switches. Not sure I'll find support here in this 3rd world country
03:15 <+DrGibby|> I think you'll be surprised
03:15 <+DrGibby|> otherwise, yeah, go with Cisco or Juniper
03:18 < gavit> I cant even find juniper support here :P
03:18 < gavit> DrGibby|: got a vendor for cisco?
03:20 <+MillerBOSS> Ubiquiti
03:21 <+MillerBOSS> Gencade 👉 https://discord.gg/z3Kgbm go there
03:22 <+MillerBOSS> Discord thinks I am still in the Philippines https://shit.farm.millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-04-24-20-22-24-kC.png
03:25 <+NinjaStyle> Ayyy
03:26 < rpifan> so work has issued me this thinkpad t460
03:28 < rpifan> lol this laptop costs as much as a macbook
03:28 < rpifan> and ive already dropped it
03:28 < rpifan> and caused issued with it
03:28 < misspwn>  firrred
03:28 < rpifan> idk the internal helpdesk guy said
03:28 < rpifan> it happens lal the time that ppl fuck there machines up
03:28 <@JollyRgrs> misspwn: you misspelled... i think you meant "farrrred"
03:29 < misspwn> rpifan, couple years ago someone came to my desk and said they don't know why their surface pro wasnt working and it had a huge chunk missing but they swore up and down they never dropped it :P
03:29 < rpifan> lol
03:29 < misspwn> at least you aren't that person
03:29 < rpifan> well mine fell off my bicycle when i was bringing home a gallon of milk in a milk crate with the laptop in the air
03:30 < Anaphylaxis> give them this look data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAASwAAACoCAMAAABt9SM9AAAAh1BMVEX///8AAAD8/Pz39/d8fHzw8PD29vZtbW3n5+eZmZlycnLs7OyVlZXY2NhmZmbh4eGwsLCenp7Hx8e+vr6pqam4uLjAwMDS0tLc3NwdHR0yMjJbW1uGhobOzs52dnYpKSlCQkJTU1OMjIwUFBQ6OjpLS0tNTU1ERERgYGAqKioiIiIVFRULCwu/fa51AAAPvklEQVR4nO1daYOyIBAW7/vKo0wr7dzq//++lwErTTs2tXTfng+um4j4OAwDMwDDfPHFF1988cUXT8HXs5hXR/hspM5USY0djWECScWQZEgg8lPeYMRY5S0my
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03:30 < rpifan> lol
03:30 < misspwn> rpifan, do you not have a backpack???
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03:30 <+MillerBOSS> Way to go Anaphylaxis
03:30 <+DrGibby|> thanks hater1
03:30 <@hater1> hater gonna hate
03:30 <+MillerBOSS> Learn how to copy from Google Images
03:31 < rpifan> yea
03:31 < rpifan> i didnt know we were issued company laptops
03:31 < rpifan> i only huge backpacking packs
03:31 < rpifan> but i got one of those drawstring bags now
03:31 < rpifan> to put my stuff in
03:31 < rpifan> still it didnt suffe too much except for a bright pixel spot in the center of the secreent
03:32 < Anaphylaxis> sorry guis :l
03:32 < rpifan> thats ok Anaphylaxis i did that the other day on snoonet by mistake
03:33 <+DrGibby|> never do that again Anaphylaxis
03:33 <+MillerBOSS> Blame Google Images
03:33 <+MillerBOSS> DrGibby| 👉 fuck off :P
03:33 < rpifan> it happens
03:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> I blame MillerBOSS
03:33 < Anaphylaxis> :'(
03:33 < rpifan> so since i cant be assured of getting linux on this machine
03:33 < Anaphylaxis> i meant this: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/002/758/areyoufucking.jpg
03:33 < rpifan> ive installed linux to an external drive and im gonna boot from it
03:33 <+suttin> Anaphylaxis: learn to copy paste :P
03:33 < rpifan> to use it to do video work
03:33 < rpifan> cause this old laptop is useles
03:33 < Anaphylaxis> blame google lol
03:33 <+DrGibby|> any baseball fans?
03:34 < rpifan> nop
03:35 < Anaphylaxis> nah
03:35 <+DrGibby|> https://youtu.be/P1R2f6153pQ
03:35  * czarbomba bleeds blue & orange
03:35 <+layer-eight> YouTube MLB | Oddities by 2017-08-20T12:00:01.000Z (duration: 15:15) on Sun Aug 20 19:00:01 UTC 2017, 2017-08-20T12:00:01.000Z views
03:36 < insecurity> hm
03:43 < rpifan> can anyone explain what the reason is for giving us a company laptop is
03:43 <+MillerBOSS> How did you find a job rpifan ?
03:44 < gavit> lol
03:45 < rpifan> my bosses are quite imprressed wiht my performance so far btw
03:46 <+MillerBOSS> I am serious. How did you find a job? You were so concerned not too long ago you'd never find a job
03:47 < rpifan> indeed and i meet a guy who lives in europe
03:47 < rpifan> so ive put my will
03:47 < rpifan> to make money and leave to go to europe
03:47 < rpifan> as soon as possible
03:48 < rpifan> im hanging on to this job
03:48 < rpifan> so i can screw them over as soon as possible
03:48 < rpifan> by leaving them
03:48 < Anaphylaxis> grass is always greener
03:48 < rpifan> after theyve spent weeks training
03:49 < rpifan> he lives in europe i qnna be close ot him
03:49 < rpifan> thats mostly it
03:49 <+CheckYourSix> Lol why do you want to screw them over? What did they do to you? Give you a job?
03:50 < rpifan> they wont let me use linux
03:50 < rpifan> lol
03:50 <+CheckYourSix> Did you manage to get your $90k/year?
03:50 < rpifan> nop
03:50 < rpifan> 50
03:51 < Casteil> <rpifan> can anyone explain what the reason is for giving us a company laptop is < uh, that needs to be explained to you?
03:51 <+DrGibby|> ^
03:52 < Casteil> rpifan: you sound like a real class act
03:52 < rpifan> is that a good thign
03:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
03:52 < Casteil> no, it sounds like you're a shitty person
03:52 < rpifan> oh
03:52 < rpifan> well no they like me at work
03:55 <+CheckYourSix> So let's get this straight. You got a job working at a scam company where everyone got arrested for ICO fraud. You got fired after a month. They paid you $90k/year, but you said they were all idiots and you knew so much more than they did. Once you got fired and you were broke, you begged us for homelab equipment so you could work on your skills. Then you finally found a job for $50k after you couldn't find any higher paying ones,
03:55 <+CheckYourSix>  and because "they won't let you use linux," you're going to get whatever money you can and run off to Europe to be with some guy you met online. Just to screw them and waste their time, when they did nothing but give you a job. On top of that, you're asking why companies give employees company laptops... You are all over the fucking map. Good god, I don't know how you got a job. You sound like a total dick to be around.
03:56 < rpifan> lol
03:56 < rpifan> well a few details
03:57 < rpifan> i meet him in person
03:57 < rpifan> we spent a week together
03:57 <+suttin>  also, they said you could install linux yesterday
03:57 <+CheckYourSix> That's pretty much the past couple months of your life summed up. At least from what you say in here
03:57 < rpifan> well i have also volunteered and done other activies
03:57 <+suttin> you were asking about how to integrate linux with AD
03:57 < rpifan> well it seems they changed there mind over the GDPR
03:57 < rpifan> also i have wanted to move to Europe for a long time
03:57 <+suttin> CheckYourSix: dis guy
03:58 < McDonaldsWiFi> s/linux with AD/cancer with more cancer
03:58 <+layer-eight> suttin meant: "you were asking about how to integrate cancer with more cancer"
03:58 < rpifan> getting fired from the ICO and meeting this guy just reminded me of my desiere to go elsewehre
03:58 < Casteil> good luck finding gainful IT employment in europe
03:58 < rpifan> actually
03:58 <+suttin> AKSHUALLY
03:58 < rpifan> ive already had intereviews with a berlin company
03:58 < McDonaldsWiFi> notcalling linux cancer.. but SSSD and all that is shit to work with ;P
03:58 <+CheckYourSix> suttin: What lol
03:58 <+suttin> http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/191/035/135.png
03:58  * DrGibby| eats popcorn
03:58 < McDonaldsWiFi> rpifan: man you've managed to piss off everyone here lol
03:58 < Casteil> it's easier  to make good money in IT in the US than in europe
03:58 < Casteil> just fyi
03:58 < McDonaldsWiFi> rpifan: I don't think wierdtolkish was even able to do it this good lol
03:59 < rpifan> also why should i care about a company, there express purpose is to exploit people as much as possible, pay them as little as possible and then give them tiny treats so they dont revolt
03:59 <+CheckYourSix> McDonaldsWiFi: I wouldn't say he's pissed me off, he's just painted himself as a total dick to work with.
03:59 < rpifan> they ask you for 10 days advanced notice if you quit but they fire you at any instant
03:59 <+CheckYourSix> rpifan: You accepted the job
03:59 < McDonaldsWiFi> you have a pretty shit view of the market
03:59 < rpifan> cause i needed money
03:59 < rpifan> oh no
03:59 <+suttin> dis guy FOSS's
03:59 <+suttin> thats for sure
04:00 < rpifan> actually im quite good at work atm
04:00 < rpifan> mostly cause i have a goal now
04:00 < rpifan> to do as mch work, collect asm uch money and move on
04:00 <+suttin> AKSHUALLY http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/191/035/135.png
04:00 < McDonaldsWiFi> you can flip that logic
04:00 < rpifan> so im busting my ass
04:00 < rpifan> im sure u could
04:00 < McDonaldsWiFi> why should they give you more money when you're just going to screw them over and leave after a month
04:01 < rpifan> well in about 17 weeks
04:01 < rpifan> god willing
04:01 <+DrGibby|> suttin, can you please script it to auto link every time someone in here says "actually"
04:01 < rpifan> thats good enog time
04:01 < McDonaldsWiFi> idk man just sounds like a crappy set of ethics
04:01 <+suttin> DrGibby|: oh god
04:01 < McDonaldsWiFi> this will probably give you trouble later in life :/
04:01 < rpifan> looll
04:01 <+DrGibby|> could you imagine?
04:01 < McDonaldsWiFi> DrGibby|: I have a half finished IRC bot I could spin up for this purpose lol
04:02 < rpifan> actually
04:02 <+CheckYourSix> rpifan: Let's see if you make it 17 weeks at this company
04:02 < rpifan> i also wonder if ill make it
04:02 < rpifan> longest job ever was 9 months
04:02 <+DrGibby|> s/17/2
04:02 <+layer-eight> CheckYourSix meant: "rpifan: Let's see if you make it 2 weeks at this company"
04:02 < misspwn> rpifan, i have a company laptop too, it's kinda standard if they have you work remote
04:02 < rpifan> gotta start small
04:03 < rpifan> im working on prem tho
04:03 < rpifan> wfh would be great
04:03 < McDonaldsWiFi> speaking of company LT
04:03 < McDonaldsWiFi> I love my thinkpad
04:03 < McDonaldsWiFi> I wonder if they will let me buy it if I leave
04:04 < rpifan> still tho whats the purpose of issueing ppl laptops
04:04 < misspwn> just steal it like rpifan 's gona
04:04 < rpifan> why not just desktops
04:04 < misspwn> i have a desktop and a laptop *shrug*
04:04 < misspwn> and at one of my jobs i only had a laptop and dock but it's helpful in the event you can't get to the office and still need to work
04:05 < rpifan> hmm
04:05 < rpifan> i just find it intesreting
04:05 < rpifan> we get a laptop
04:05 < rpifan> and at wokr we get a screen thats it
04:05 < rpifan> no docks or anything
04:05 < misspwn> like if for some bizarre reason our office caught fire
04:06 <+CheckYourSix> rpifan: If you get a job at a company in Europe, are you magically going to stay working there? You do realize all companies exist to make money. They all pay you just enough that you won't leave. That's the whole idea of capitalism
04:06 <+CheckYourSix> I just don't understand the logic behind how you view the job market and corporations and everything. Plus EU salaries for IT are beyond shitty
04:08 <+DrGibby|> also, someone has to sponsor your visa for living there
04:09 < misspwn> just join the circus
04:09 <+DrGibby|> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/6HJOYxMH/image.png
04:10 < misspwn> well now i know what my wallpaper should be
04:11 < rpifan> actually
04:11 < rpifan> i can get a job seekers visa for 6 months
04:12 < rpifan> and i could get a freelance visa as well
04:12 < rpifan> why ppl accept that kind of treatment is confusing to me
04:12 < rpifan> there must be a lot of cognitive dissonance
04:12 < misspwn> man, you sure are confused about a lot of things
04:13 < rpifan> how so
04:13 <+CheckYourSix> You don't seem to understand how capitalism works
04:14 <+MillerBOSS> Uh oh
04:14 < rpifan> i get it
04:15 < rpifan> its bad
04:15 < rpifan> must crush capitalism
04:16 < rpifan> liek really why play in a rigged game
04:16 <+CheckYourSix> The entire world works on capitalism...
04:16 <+CheckYourSix> You literally can't crush it
04:17 <+CheckYourSix> And it's not rigged, you just don't know how to play
04:17 <+CheckYourSix> You can very easily stack the deck in your favor
04:19 < xamithan> Step one: get a small loan of a million from your parents
04:21 < rpifan> lol
04:21 < rpifan> of course
04:21 < rpifan> i forgot to ask my dad
04:22 < rpifan> still these ppl are investing a lot of time to trian me
04:22 < rpifan> i doubt theyd let me go without a warning at least if i didnt behave
04:22 < rpifan> so far they love me
04:22 < misspwn> that's what companies do...
04:22 < rpifan> there impressed with my dedication and willingnes to soak up all the knowledge
04:22 < misspwn> and yet you seem so ungrateful about it
04:23 < rpifan> why should i be grateful, there training me how to be there fix money for there website thats it
04:23 < rpifan> its not like there training me for A+ or something that i can display
04:23 < rpifan> besides a few shitty lines on a resume
04:23 < misspwn> if you want stuff like that you need to do that on your own
04:24 < Nightcinder> lol displaying a+
04:24 < rpifan> in any case, id love to steal the laptop but they could sue me im a sure
04:24 < rpifan> and they knwo where i live
04:25 <+CheckYourSix> Have you always been such a piece of shit?
04:25 <+CheckYourSix> The level of stupidity coming out of you is beyond comprehension
04:25 < misspwn> it's aggrivating because there are so many people of all levels who have to fight for the jobs they get and here you are like, i don't know why they bother with me
04:25 < rpifan> just cause u play the game doesnt mean everyone has to
04:26 < rpifan> as if i didnt struggle to get a job
04:26 < rpifan> clesrly u saw
04:26 <+DrGibby|> erm
04:26 < rpifan> am i supposed to be grateful that they want another money to exploit
04:26 < rpifan> to beat you down
04:26 <+CheckYourSix> How old are you?
04:26 < misspwn> hah
04:26 < rpifan> and give you tiny treats just so youll stay with me
04:26 < rpifan> and then the second something goes wrong they will cut you off so fast theyll amek your head spin
04:26 < rpifan> grateful for that? whats wrong with you seriously
04:27 < rpifan> you must be so sad that you cant see how wrong that is on every level
04:27 <+CheckYourSix> Did you not read what I said earlier? That's how every company on earth operates...
04:27 <+DrGibby|> considering the toxic vitriol you've said here in the past rpifan, I'm surprised you landed a gig
04:27 <+CheckYourSix> Every. Fucking. Company.
04:27 <+CheckYourSix> ^
04:27 < rpifan> and that makes it right? ok?
04:27 < rpifan> everyone does it
04:27 <+CheckYourSix> What DrGibby| said
04:27 < rpifan> so its ok
04:27 <+DrGibby|> I'm not one quick to judge, and man... sometimes life happens, but you're toxic
04:27 < misspwn> i mean you probably would have to mess up pretty bad for them to let you go if they like you as you claim
04:28 < rpifan> ya
04:28 <+CheckYourSix> Yes, it's more than alright. You accepted the job. Nobody held a gun to your head. If you don't like how companies work, go start your own and do it your way. You'll never make it with an attitude like that
04:28 < rpifan> im trying not ot mess up
04:28 < rpifan> but im also honest
04:28 < misspwn> so to be ungrateful for the chance they are willing to take on you and give you training and provide you with most of the tools you need to be successful there
04:28 < Nightcinder> wait he's trying to steal a laptop?
04:28 < misspwn> do you not like the company or team you work for?
04:28 <+DrGibby|> rpifan: you're not helping yourself when you come in here and say "haha fuck this company I'm only staying here until I can bail to $somewhere also lol why laptops?"
04:29 <+DrGibby|> rpifan: you're the epitome of the type of employee I hope I never hire
04:29 < rpifan> well ive not worked at a company really, and last place certainly didnt give me any
04:29 < Nightcinder> you've never worked at a company
04:29 < rpifan> i worked at an ICO
04:29 < Nightcinder> and are now shocked learning how companies work?
04:29 < rpifan> lol
04:30 < Casteil> pretty sure rpifan has a diagnosable medical condition or he's trolling
04:30 < misspwn> man, i was so grateful when the last two places gave me the chance. but mostly the first company because i had zero IT experience in any kinds of enterprise level
04:30 < Casteil> probably best to just ignore him either way
04:30 < rpifan> i do have a condition actually
04:30 <+MillerBOSS> Uh oh, BUSTED!!!111
04:30 < rpifan> several
04:30 < rpifan> mental ones
04:30 < Casteil> no hsit.
04:30 < Nightcinder> misspwn: i'm grateful to my current company for giving me the title i have
04:30 < Casteil> s/hsit/shit/
04:30 <+layer-eight> Casteil meant: "no shit."
04:30 < Nightcinder> so i can take it to my next job for double pay
04:30 <+CheckYourSix> I teach people how to manage their finances. Everything from day to day budgeting through retirement savings. I also teach companies how to get profitable and stay profitable. I also teach them how to expand margins and run more efficiently. I happen to be very good at all of that. That's how capitalism works. The principles apply to every company around the world. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's wrong.
04:31 <+DrGibby|> I would suggest you deal with those first, rpifan
04:31 < misspwn> after two years that kinda went south because of how much they took advantage of the amount of work and extra mile i'd go without much extra income to compensate for that work
04:31 < rpifan> just because tahts how it works doesnt mean its right
04:31 < Nightcinder> i am bad at finances
04:31 < Nightcinder> doesn't matter if it's right or not
04:31 < Nightcinder> it's how it works
04:31 < rpifan> why would u just accept that
04:31 <+CheckYourSix> I don't see anyone else complaining about it. Like I said, nobody held a gun to your head.
04:31 < Nightcinder> because you don't have an alternative?
04:31 < rpifan> so you have no alteratives so just shut up and pretend its ok?
04:32 < misspwn> i accept that you sometimes have to make a couple jumps to find the places where it doesn't seem like you're slaving away and that you're just a number in a system
04:32 <+CheckYourSix> The alternative is to start your own company and do it the way you think is "right"
04:32 < Nightcinder> i'm not even sure what you're complaining about that is 'wrong'
04:32  * m4221 tases misspwn 
04:32 < rpifan> lol
04:32 < misspwn> but yes in the end they pay you to work and sometimes it doesn't seem like it
04:32 < m4221> misspwn: now it is war
04:32 < misspwn> omg
04:32 < Nightcinder> what is the question anyway
04:32 < rpifan> still why does a company issue u a laptop
04:32 < rpifan> what is there goal
04:32 < Casteil> ...
04:32 <+CheckYourSix> s/there/their
04:32 < Nightcinder> ...to work on
04:32 <+layer-eight> rpifan meant: "what is their goal"
04:32 < Nightcinder> ?
04:32 < rpifan> for you to always work 24/7
04:32 < Casteil> why do you keep asking that?
04:33 < rpifan> i just dont get the benefit to them
04:33 < Nightcinder> i have a work laptop
04:33 < Casteil> laptops are practical
04:33 < Nightcinder> i take it home
04:33 < Nightcinder> do i work on it at home? sometimes
04:33 < rpifan> and then u do work off the clock?
04:33 < misspwn> hell naw
04:33 < Nightcinder> fuck no
04:33 < rpifan> i see
04:33 < rpifan> well i certainly cant clock in at home
04:33 < rpifan> there is no way to do
04:33 < Nightcinder> i don't 'clock in'
04:33 < Nightcinder> i'm salary
04:33 < Casteil> then don't work at home?
04:33 < rpifan> oh
04:33 < rpifan> then why give me a laptop, feels likei ts encouragement for u to work off the clock
04:33 < Nightcinder> if you are hourly i wouldn't take anything home
04:34 < misspwn> rofl
04:34 < rpifan> i am hourly
04:34 < misspwn> work for free?
04:34 < rpifan> not for a company
04:34 < Nightcinder> rpifan: i mean..what if you are sick
04:34 < rpifan> i do volutneer a lot
04:34 < Nightcinder> you can work from home
04:34 < Casteil> salary typically comes with the expectation that you're going to 'go the extra mile' and put in some extra time here and there
04:34 < Nightcinder> Casteil: lel
04:34 < rpifan> im not against work
04:34 < rpifan> i love to help out
04:34 < misspwn> my kids were sick last week i worked from home but not off the clock
04:34 < Nightcinder> i reddit 6 hours a day and am irreplaceable at the moment
04:34 < Nightcinder> <3
04:34 < Casteil> Nightcinder: >.>
04:34 < rpifan> well if they will eventually let me work at home
04:34 < misspwn> i actually forgot my work laptop at work so i had to RDP in like a pleb
04:34 < rpifan> then sure id see the point of the laptop
04:34 < Nightcinder> rpifan: do you ever leave your desk
04:34 < Casteil> rpifan: It's probably standard.
04:35 < rpifan> and if u r salary i get it then
04:35 < Nightcinder> i take my laptop with me around the building
04:35 < rpifan> while im work i get up to get more free tea
04:35 < Nightcinder> meetings, etc
04:35 < rpifan> well we have an entire floor
04:35 < Casteil> no point buying desktops for some people and laptops for others if they're already buying laptops
04:35 < Casteil> then you'd have people bitching "OH WHY DON'T I HAVE A FANCY LAPTOP?!"
04:35 < rpifan> makes sense i guess
04:35 < rpifan> well i did bitch cause the "Developers" got macs
04:35 < Casteil> boo fucking hoo
04:36 < rpifan> its more because fo OS X then because its an apple product
04:36 < Nightcinder> Casteil: we are actually working on that right now
04:36 < Nightcinder> i'm trying to give more desktops to users
04:36 < rpifan> i give zero fucks about apple
04:36 < Casteil> my developer has a top of the line Precision laptop
04:36 < Nightcinder> because they have zero need for a laptop
04:36 < rpifan> but os x is closer to unix
04:36 < Nightcinder> nor do they ever undock them
04:36 < rpifan> i can always install brew on os x
04:36 < Nightcinder> we have 2 flavors of laptop and a desktop
04:36 < Casteil> Nightcinder: Eh, we just give everyone laptops because there's a lot of mobility in our company
04:36 < Nightcinder> and then IT got their own xps 15's
04:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> it is almost done.
04:37 < rpifan> well at least yall ansewred my question
04:37 < rpifan> and it makes sense now
04:37 < Casteil> I'm going downtown tomorrow (and I might end up downtown before long actually)
04:37 <+CheckYourSix> rpifan: How old are you?
04:37 <+DrGibby|> ^
04:37 < m4221> misspwn: anyway, who the hell let you in?
04:37 < rpifan> tho its annoying that hey ahve apples and windows
04:37 < rpifan> im a lot older then you might think
04:37 < rpifan> and im ok with that
04:37 < Nightcinder> i hate supporting mac
04:37 < Nightcinder> i have *one* osx user
04:37 <+DrGibby|> rpifan: that means I think you're 18
04:37 < Casteil> Nightcinder: I love my Latitude E7470, but I think I'd like an XPS 15 even more :X
04:37 < Nightcinder> Casteil: keyboard on the xps is so bad tho
04:37 < rpifan> yes infra guy was complaining about having to support os x atm
04:38 < Nightcinder> rest of its fine
04:38 <+CheckYourSix> You sound iike a teenager, but I'm guessing you're late 20s or so
04:38 < rpifan> caue of the directory stuff
04:38 < Casteil> bad how?
04:38 < misspwn> m4221, yo mama did even though i stood her up
04:38 < Nightcinder> weird design and the keys don't feel great
04:38 < Casteil> eh
04:38 < rpifan> he just said that if he had to manager another os x serve he would lose his shit
04:38 < rpifan> he gave me the name of what product he was using
04:38 < rpifan> but i dont remmeber
04:38 < Casteil> I do like that it's got a very minimal form factor for a 15" laptop though
04:38 < rpifan> i hadnt heard of it before
04:38 < rpifan> its on slack
04:38 < Nightcinder> ya
04:38 < Nightcinder> i need to reload mine
04:38 <+DrGibby|> Nightcinder: as an OSX user I just find ways to make the ops guys not hate me. Fuck trying to support macs in a corp env
04:38 < Casteil> might even be smaller than my E7470
04:39 < Casteil> but... I do like my dock port on my e7470
04:39 < Nightcinder> DrGibby|: thankfully i fixed most of her major issues
04:39 < m4221> misspwn: she said you could not get it up
04:39 < Nightcinder> i need to find a 'small' option for ultraportable users
04:39 < Nightcinder> a small dell
04:39 <+DrGibby|> Nightcinder: I guess what I'm trying to say is: I understand their battles, I don't want to add to them
04:39 < misspwn> m4221, i hear that a lot unfortunately
04:39 < Casteil> XPS 13?  :P
04:39 < Nightcinder> people complaining about the lattitude size
04:39 < Nightcinder> fuck that
04:39 < Nightcinder> i already gave out one of those
04:39 < Nightcinder> and it has a fan issue
04:39 < Nightcinder> that's been replaced twice
04:39 < Casteil> the latitude 5xxx series?
04:39 < Casteil> (being the chunky one?)
04:39 < m4221> misspwn: try extenze ;)
04:40 < Nightcinder> our main laptop is the 5580
04:40 < Casteil> weren't you saying they wanted a numpad
04:40 < Nightcinder> some users do yeah
04:40 < Nightcinder> that's why it's the default option
04:40 < Casteil> you don't really get anything smaller than the 5580 with a numpad
04:40 < misspwn> idk why someone wouldn't want a numpad
04:40 < rpifan> so 50k at mid 20 is the reasonable standard
04:40 < Nightcinder> i would like to find something small without numpad lightweight etc for the people who just need something to work with
04:40 < rpifan> im not there
04:40 < Casteil> E7400 series is probably where you want to look for something smaller than the E5x00 series but comparable specs
04:41 < Nightcinder> mkay
04:41 < misspwn> rpifan, yer makin more than me dawg
04:41 < misspwn> i have that woman tax tho
04:41 < Casteil> misspwn: I like a smaller size laptop :P
04:42 < misspwn> Casteil, i have a thinkpad T550 ultrabook, can't imagine a smaller screen
04:42 < Casteil> back when I worked IT I bought and set up a lot of E7470s, they've been very good to us
04:42 < Nightcinder> i make 53 at 27 and i am a late bloomer
04:42 < Casteil> my e7470 has a 2560x1440 touchscreen :P
04:42 < Casteil> tis nice
04:42 <+DrGibby|> actually
04:42 < suttin> ACKSHUALLY https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/6HJOYxMH/image.png
04:42 < misspwn> does it make a lot of smudges?
04:42 < Casteil> though I don't really use the touchscreen
04:42 < czarbomba> anyone here ever drive a tata nano like you stole it?
04:42 <+MillerBOSS> What in the flying fuck is going on in here?
04:42 <+MillerBOSS> DrGibby| needs an adult NOW!!!
04:43 <+DrGibby|> yes
04:43 <+MillerBOSS> Like right now, pronto
04:43 <+DrGibby|> I need +o pls
04:43 < CharlesA> czarbomba, Does it purr or blow up?
04:43 < czarbomba> it's a tata nano
04:44 < misspwn> tata nano reminds me of tots and makes me hungry
04:44 < CharlesA> hahaha
04:44 < CharlesA> It would probably beat my car in a race tbh.
04:44 < czarbomba> https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/thumb/msid-60242258,width-400,resizemode-4/60242258.jpg
04:44 < Casteil> is that real? lol
04:44 < CharlesA> https://jalopnik.com/the-tata-nano-is-way-better-than-the-worlds-cheapest-ca-1823653663 <<<<
04:44 < CharlesA> Yeah, it is
04:44 < misspwn> is that what that car is? that's ugly as hell
04:45 < misspwn> it wishes it could be a fiat
04:45 < Casteil> patently fucking ridiculous lol
04:45 <+CheckYourSix> suttin: Actually
04:45 < suttin> ACKSHUALLY https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/6HJOYxMH/image.png
04:45 < Casteil> it's a fiat with fetal alcohol syndrome
04:45 < Casteil> >.>
04:45 < misspwn> hahahaha
04:45 < misspwn> hey you said it not me
04:46 < E-werd> TATAS
04:46 < m4221> misspwn: aren't all irc people guys here though hence no "woman" tax?
04:46 < E-werd> SAVE THE TATAS
04:46 < czarbomba> https://www.motorbeam.com/wp-content/uploads/2015-Tata-Nano-AMT-Review.jpg bahahahahahahah
04:46 < rpifan> misspwn, how old u is
04:46 < Casteil> it's also indian so it's guaranteed to be a piece of shit
04:46 < Casteil> er, I don't mean that in a racist way
04:46 < czarbomba> "we tried to turn on a gravel road at 15mph and it was the most terrifying thing ever"
04:46 < E-werd> literal shit on the streets
04:46 < CharlesA> czarbomba, kinda makes me wonder how much hooning you can do with that car.
04:46 < m4221> Casteil: racist
04:46 < CharlesA> RWD = win, right?
04:46 < E-werd> it's got like... 12" wheels
04:47 < misspwn> m4221, oh who knows anymore. rpifan i'm 31 and far more of a late bloomer with very large imposter syndrome as many
04:47 < CharlesA> Everyone has imposter syndrome tbh.
04:47 < rpifan> oh well were the same age
04:47  * CharlesA hides
04:47 < E-werd> "a late bloomer with very large--" SAY NO MORE
04:47 < rpifan> misspwn, youll be happy to know that my bosses are all women
04:47 < czarbomba> it takes 135/70 R12 65T tires
04:47 < rpifan> the tech lead and the boss of the tech lead are all women
04:47 < misspwn> why would that make me happy? if they can kick ass that's great
04:47 < czarbomba> i think i had bigger tires on my race quad
04:47 < rpifan> they do
04:48 < m4221> rpifan: ask if they want to fuck;)
04:48 < rpifan> the tech lead is the one that lieks me the most
04:48 < rpifan> im gay
04:48 < misspwn> i'm the only woman engineer in my company so i do get my own bathroom which is nice
04:48 < Casteil> misspwn: What's surprising is a lot of times if I go without praise for a while I feel the imposter syndrome creep up
04:48 < misspwn> there are two other women in the office but they next use the one in the back
04:48 < rpifan> misspwn, well here is a thing about europe that annoys me about the us
04:48 < rpifan> the tech lead boss had a baby
04:48 < rpifan> she gets one year maternity leave
04:48 < rpifan> cause they have good laws in the UK
04:48 < Casteil> but today as I was sitting down with my developer, our accounting controller and one of his staff I was in complete control of the meeting and in my element
04:48 < rpifan> so the tech lead gtakes over
04:49 < rpifan> in the US you get preggers u basically go to work or lose your job
04:49 < Casteil> it was actually pretty sweet
04:49 < rpifan> who would to support that kind of shitty thinking
04:49 < suttin> ACKCHYUALLY https://i.imgur.com/YxcBscE.png
04:49 < Casteil> holy fuck killdash9 kill that bot^
04:49 < misspwn> Casteil, yeah i got props for some damage control recently and then it got fizzled out which made me second guess all things
04:49 < m4221>  suttin, go back to your cubicle
04:49 < suttin> what bot?
04:49 < suttin> im a person
04:49 < suttin> m4221: no
04:49 <+MillerBOSS> Casteil is triggered
04:49 <+MillerBOSS> ACKCHYUALLY https://i.imgur.com/YxcBscE.png
04:50 < CharlesA> So does it pass the Turing Test?
04:50 < misspwn> rpifan, with my last job i was pregnant and quit which lead to me being out of work because no one would hire a pregnant person and i don't fault them for that so it took a bit to get back in the work force again. had i stayed at my previous company i would have had to quit anyway since daycare would have been more than what i made
04:50 < czarbomba> https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/slideshows/auto/230hp-super-tata-nano-revealed-costs-rs-25-lakh/230hp-super-tata-nano-revealed/slideshow/45489490.cms
04:50 < Casteil> misspwn: Yeah. I think a lot of IT people need some positive feedback from time to time as reassurance they're doing well
04:50 <+layer-eight> ACKCHYUALLY https://i.imgur.com/YxcBscE.png
04:50 < rpifan> misspwn, well thats not fair misspwn it shouldnt be that way
04:50 < Casteil> fortunately I don't have to heap fake praise on my developer
04:50 < rpifan> thats one of the reasons to go elsewhere where they treat u better
04:50 < rpifan> i dont care if i make less
04:50 < misspwn> it is what it is, some companies are changing that and making great strides to provide parental leave for either parent which i sgreat
04:51 < rpifan> as long as i have protection
04:51 < Casteil> he really is badass at what he does, although he does sometimes start talking at me as I'm trying to concentrate on something
04:51 < rpifan> but if you like living here your screed i guess
04:51 < rpifan> screwed
04:51 < m4221> misspwn: $vp wanted to talk to my boss about an information leakage incident.  I told $vp "I can give you the same information that my boss would give you.  Now, would you like me to help you right now?"
04:52 < czarbomba> trust but verify. m4221 was fired that day.
04:52 < misspwn> hah
04:52 < m4221> czarbomba: $boss said "really fucking good job"
04:53 < Casteil> I'm kinda nervous because I'm sitting down with my boss and the company owner tomorrow
04:53 < m4221> Someone sent some information unencrypted
04:53 < misspwn> be nervous it's okay, bet it'll be ballin though
04:53 < Casteil> pretty sure I'm not in trouble or anything, but most likely going to have some pointed questions and orders come at me
04:53 < misspwn> hopefully your boss and owner are not super uptight
04:53 < Casteil> no, I love my boss, he's more of a friend/peer than anything now
04:54 < Casteil> company owner is pretty cool too but he's still the company owner
04:54 < Casteil> and he's kind of no-nonsense/straight-to-the-point which I don't blame him for
04:54 < misspwn> well yeah you don't want to be too casual
04:54 < Casteil> can't get anything done if you're constantly engaged in shittons of casual smalltalk with the underlings
04:55 < xe0n> yo
04:55 < misspwn> sometimes i forget that about ours
04:55 < Casteil> actually that's one of the things that kinda pisses me off about some of our accounting team
04:55 < suttin> ACKCHYUALLY https://i.imgur.com/YxcBscE.png
04:55 < misspwn> maybe because the ceo can't be much older than i am
04:55 < misspwn> and i just forget
04:55 < Casteil> seems like I overhear them talking about non work related shit a little too often
04:55 < misspwn> stlil have to have that separatation of power
04:55 < suttin> ok I removed my script
04:56 < suttin> no more ACKCHYUALLY SPAM
04:56 < suttin> actually
04:56 < rpifan> actually
04:56 < misspwn> good riddance
04:56 < suttin> ACKCHYUALLY https://i.imgur.com/YxcBscE.png
04:56 <+layer-eight> ACKCHYUALLY https://i.imgur.com/YxcBscE.png
04:56 < suttin> copy and paste works though
04:56 < suttin> lol
04:56 < m4221> I make a lower salary, but have good insurance
04:56 < rpifan> <suttin> ACKCHYUALLY https://i.imgur.com/YxcBscE.png
04:56 < rpifan> <layer-eight> ACKCHYUALLY https://i.imgur.com/YxcBscE.png
04:56 <+layer-eight> ACKCHYUALLY https://i.imgur.com/YxcBscE.png
04:57 < m4221> suttin: what did we call you in years past?
04:57 <+MillerBOSS> ACKCHYUALLY https://i.imgur.com/YxcBscE.png
04:57 < Casteil> I make an "alright" salary given my relative lack of education/professional experience
04:57 < Casteil> but my benefits are pretty poor
04:57 <+DrGibby|> actually! you're all wrong.
04:57 <+MillerBOSS> ACKCHYUALLY https://i.imgur.com/YxcBscE.png
04:57 < Casteil> I'd be in pretty great financial shape if I jumped ship to a company for +10k/yr and better health insurance..
04:57 < misspwn> i make a little under 45 a year and i'm totally okay with that
04:58 <+MillerBOSS> Casteil = triggered right now
04:58 < misspwn> wouldn't turn down more but i wouldn't have accepted for less
04:58 < Casteil> not exactly struggling right now but after I bought the house I'm not able to improve things as quickly as I'd like due to budgeting :P
04:58 < m4221> misspwn: sysad
04:58 < m4221> sysadm?
04:58 <+MillerBOSS> And he is actually triggered
04:58 < rpifan> misspwn, u shoudnt be ok i bet ur worth 1000k
04:58 < rpifan> you msut be smarter then me
04:58 < rpifan> more willing to work
04:58 <+MillerBOSS> What?
04:58 < misspwn> rpifan, nawwwwww there is no way haha
04:58 < rpifan> i say make more
04:58 < rpifan> its true
04:58 < rpifan> i promise
04:58 < m4221> rpifan: your grammar is atrocious.   You're fired
04:58 < misspwn> like i could probably get 50s
04:58 < m4221> misspwn: I am at 56k
04:58 < misspwn> i'm an engineer but i feel like that title is kinda generous
04:58 <+CheckYourSix> misspwn: What do you do and where do you live? 45k is on the lower side, unless you live in a low COL area
04:59 < Casteil> I could probably make +20k/yr elsewhere but I think I'd be sacrificing quality of life
04:59 < misspwn> i dont know what i am engineering
04:59 < rpifan> misspwn, im just a "tech support guy"
04:59 < rpifan> misspwn, what is ur main job supposed to be
04:59 < misspwn> idk everything
04:59 < rpifan> also they offered me 45 and i told them fuck off
04:59 < rpifan> and so they gave me 50
04:59 < misspwn> CheckYourSix, close to st louis mo
04:59 < Casteil> 'what is your job?' 'idk lol'
04:59 < suttin> misspwn: come work for my company, +15k raise off the bat becuase that would be our starting
04:59 < rpifan> misspwn, id like the title of engineer
04:59 < rpifan> i hate that my title is tech support representative
04:59 < rpifan> it makes it seem like im low level heldpesk
05:00 < rpifan> but the reality is a lot different
05:00 < misspwn> i think more or less i'm a sys admin but they give the engineer title
05:00 < CharlesA> rpifan, Hahahaha
05:00 < rpifan> im troubleshooting back end stuff
05:00 < misspwn> "computer engineer" like what is that even
05:00 < CharlesA> I don't even know what my official title is.
05:00 < rpifan> i want the sys admin title so bad
05:00 < Casteil> a lot of 'engineer' positions are kind of an insult to actual engineers >.>
05:00 < rpifan> its my idela computer position
05:00 < misspwn> Casteil, that's what i'm sayin
05:00 < misspwn> i don't feel like i'm an engineer
05:00 < rpifan> just plain sys admin
05:00 < CharlesA> Everyone's an engineer!
05:00 <+CheckYourSix> rpifan: But you hate capitalism and companies...
05:00 < rpifan> no devops
05:00 < rpifan> none of that shit
05:00 < Casteil> 'computer engineer' = designs cost effective computer hardware
05:00 < rpifan> i do
05:00 < rpifan> but i gotta eat
05:00 < rpifan> and i ahte it
05:00 < CharlesA> waste maintenance engineer and all that.
05:00 < misspwn> i don't design computers at all
05:00 < rpifan> i wish i could just die
05:01 < rpifan> but i was made to promise to not kill myself
05:01 < CharlesA> I just break things.. before the customers can.
05:01 < misspwn> i break databases sometimes
05:01 < rpifan> we fix database end points basically
05:01 < suttin> I break docker all the time
05:01 < rpifan> we go on salfesforce
05:01 < CharlesA> null pointer exceptions are my friend, apparently.
05:01 < rpifan> look at tickets
05:01 < suttin> k im out
05:01 < suttin> peace nerds
05:01 < rpifan> go into the db
05:01 < suttin> misspwn: check your pms
05:01 < rpifan> verify and then make them work
05:01 < rpifan> and thats it
05:01 < misspwn> suttin, i did, thanks for the tip
05:01 < rpifan> hence the python script
05:01 < suttin> you got it dude
05:02 < misspwn> i think they give the title engineer out a lot at MSP's though because you wear so many hats
05:02 < Casteil> I know if I were a mechanical or aerospace engineer I'd probably look down on titles like 'network engineer' or 'waste solution engineer' :P
05:02 < CharlesA> Yep.
05:02 < CharlesA> All the hats.
05:02 < CharlesA> TF2 all up in here...
05:02 < misspwn> so i am a hat wearer
05:02  * Casteil has a lot of hats too
05:03 < rpifan> i get no hat
05:03 < rpifan> its sad
05:03 < Casteil> used to be a lot more IT hats but I've pretty cleanly separated from that despite being in the same company
05:03 < CharlesA> Casteil, Do you have one shaped like a companion cube?
05:03 < Casteil> in fact it always astounds me how clean of a break I made from my old IT position
05:03 < misspwn> i'd like to specialize in something but haven't found out what exactly. networking is not my bag and i don't really want to make it so
05:03 < rpifan>  i like networks
05:03 < misspwn> virtualization though, that's where it might be at
05:03 < CharlesA> I like networking
05:03 < CharlesA> and virtualization.
05:03 < Casteil> over the last 2 years at my company I've done just about everything IT related lol
05:03 < m4221> I cringe that we are on vsphere 5.1
05:04 < misspwn> pretty sure my hard headedness on networking is just that i don't understand it
05:04 < CharlesA> m4221, I had a esxi box running version 4.0.. finally migrated off it last year.
05:04 < CharlesA> and yet we still have shit running in vmware player
05:04 < rpifan> sitting at that job
05:04 < rpifan> i wonder
05:04 < CharlesA> because old os is old
05:04 < rpifan> what its like to work for grindr
05:04 < rpifan> is it just like my office
05:04 < rpifan> but staffed iwth gay ppl
05:04 < misspwn> barely passed my cisco class, can't subnet for shit and firewalls and iptables and all that makes my brain hurt
05:04 < Casteil> started as general IT, I think in my first month I resolved & reported on a ransomware incident affecting a central piece of equipment... I'd done all sorts of stuff that network/system administrators do
05:05 < rpifan> why are u negotiating with terroists
05:05 < Casteil> but for the last year plus I've been working as sort of a software implementation coordinator
05:05 < m4221> CharlesA: I worked with RS/6000s too and I'm only 32
05:05 < CharlesA> m4221, o.O
05:06 < Casteil> misspwn: understanding comes with exposure
05:06 < m4221> Charles, they were like "you know linux on power?"
05:06 < CharlesA> and here I am dealing with a regular AS/400.. not regularly tho.
05:06 < Casteil> you don't just learn a language by watching vids or reading a book
05:06 < Casteil> you have to exercise/use it or you lose it
05:06 < misspwn> Casteil, that's too true
05:06 < CharlesA> m4221, God, that sounds like me. Here's an ancient centos box. fix it
05:07 < m4221> CharlesA: see my pm
05:07 < Casteil> I've been trying to hone my software developer skills but I haven't had much time to take on tasks
05:07 < misspwn> two weeks ago the fire i burned out i ended up having to figure out powershell because i didn't know how else to export mail logs from O365 into a csv
05:07 < misspwn> ceo was like this should take 15min
05:07 < Casteil> and now the universe (and my company) seem to be dictating that I should get into project management stuff
05:07 < misspwn> well it took me like 3 hours lol
05:08 < Casteil> so, they bought me the project management body of knowledge guide and are sponsoring a CAPM cert for me
05:08 <@JollyRgrs> i would not want to be a PM
05:08 < Casteil> misspwn: does the CEO have any technical prowess at all? :P
05:09 < misspwn> project management sounds cool and all and i think about that but then i really don't want to have that responsiblity. uh no the CEO has a plethora of technicalness
05:09 < misspwn> he probably thought "oh just run quick powershell and export it" well it took me a bit to figure out that powershell was what i needed to use or along those lines. and then i had to figure out how to login to it and use it
05:09 < Casteil> because I and my software engineer have a lot of technical prowess and we find ourselves *still* underestimating how long certain new things might take to accomplish in our in-house software (due to cascading effects and considerations for historic information)
05:10 < Casteil> (and a ton of other factors)
05:10 < misspwn> idk he didn't tell me other than "they want this, so find that"
05:10 < Casteil> it'd take me a good long while to cobble together a powershell script to do anything for o365 right now >.>
05:10 < misspwn> maybe that's something that would come naturally to him so it's not something you think of about others varying skill sets
05:11 < misspwn> maybe it's challening for a reason, maybe it's a test, or a dick move who knows
05:11 < misspwn> he didn't get on my back about it taking so long he gave me props for making it happen
05:11 < Casteil> :P
05:11 < Casteil> and yes, depending how big your company is and how big your purview is, project management can definitely be a tremendous amount of responsibility
05:12 < misspwn> it's a pretty daunting move laterally in a company unless that's really what you are after
05:12 < Casteil> I definitely wouldn't want to go into a new company and try to jump into a project as a "PM"
05:12 < Casteil> I don't know if I'd call it a lateral move
05:13 < Casteil> pretty sure if things continue as they are and I keep taking on more staff I'm going to get more and more pay :P
05:13 < Casteil> and I already got a 15% raise for going from general IT to whatever mishmash my current position is
05:13 < Casteil> current title is along the lines of software implementation associate
05:14 < misspwn> aren't titles silly?
05:14 < misspwn> i think there is something to be said being ok with taking pride in a title at work but sometimes i wonder what the thought process is for names
05:14 < Casteil> my official one is definitely a bit of a mouthful
05:15 < Casteil> really given what I actually do day to day it should be software implementation coordinator or something like that
05:15 < Casteil> or business analyst / software coordinator
05:15 < misspwn> it wouldn't be a lateral move for you since it seems like you'd be ok making those steps towards it
05:16 < Casteil> lol..
05:16 < Casteil> qualifications/requirements: "5 years of experience with ERP software"
05:16 < Casteil> Salary: 50k
05:17 < Casteil> you want a software coordinator with 5 years of experience with a fairly specific set of software and you only want to pay 50k? LOL
05:17 < misspwn> i mean maybe if that was the end of the year our quarterly budget is nearing
05:18 < misspwn> various contract jobs are up but they still need  a warm body
05:18 < Casteil> bahahaha... mkillebrew https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54f10964e4b080da0c9bc744/5adee500562fa7081944ce3c/5adee5baaa4a996c3817ccd5/1524557251003/calimag+moneyshot.jpg?format=1500w
05:18 < mkillebrew> neat
05:19 <+CheckYourSix> Casteil: LMAO love it
05:20 <+MillerBOSS> California really needs to be its own country for all of our well being.
05:20 <+CheckYourSix> MillerBOSS: ++++++++
05:20 <+MillerBOSS> LOL and we will make a wall between them and us
05:20 <+MillerBOSS> See how they like that shit
05:21 <+MillerBOSS> :P
05:21 <+MillerBOSS> And who is gonna for that wall?
05:21 <+MillerBOSS> CALIFORNIA
05:22 < rpifan> we need a berlin wall
05:22 < rpifan> around dc
05:22 < mkillebrew> or just let California do its thing
05:22 < rpifan> so they cant leave
05:22 <+DrGibby|> ...
05:22 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6IQRbEtXlQ
05:23 <+layer-eight> YouTube Arnold Schwarzenegger Saying California 11 Times by 2014-01-07T03:18:54.000Z (duration: 9s) on Tue Jan 07 10:18:54 UTC 2014, 2014-01-07T03:18:54.000Z views
05:23 < rpifan> i think most ppl from both sides hate politician
05:23 < mkillebrew> Everyone hates someone that tries to make everyone happy.
05:23 < rpifan> true
05:24 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> So everyone hates Jesus. Got it.
05:24 < mkillebrew> no, he said it was cool to stone people, he didn't like everyone
05:24 < rpifan> tremember jesus hates u
05:25 <+MillerBOSS> Who said anything about stones and people mkillebrew? Quit making up shit
05:25 < mkillebrew> I'll make you up.
05:25 <+MillerBOSS> #fakenews
05:26 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> #FakeBoobs
05:26 <+MillerBOSS> Those are OK
05:28 < McDonaldsWiFi> stupid shitty python
05:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> I finished the AKSHUALLY bot
05:29 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> McDonaldsWiFi: Gotta feed it so it doesn't bit you
05:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> but I can't get the damn sleep timer to work so it won't break the rules here lol
05:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> SysAdminGoneCraZ: O.o
05:29 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> McDonaldsWiFi: The python
05:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> huehuehue
05:29 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> McDonaldsWiFi: What are you learning with?
05:29 <+layer-eight> ACKCHYUALLY https://i.imgur.com/YxcBscE.png
05:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> NO
05:29 <+DrGibby|> STUPID FICKING THE INTERNET
05:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> NO
05:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> WHO DID IT
05:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> actually
05:30 <+DrGibby|> blame rpifan
05:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> okay no one did
05:30 <+layer-eight> ACKCHYUALLY https://i.imgur.com/YxcBscE.png
05:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> DAMMIT
05:30 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> lol
05:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> MOTHER FUCKER LOL
05:30 <+DrGibby|> lol
05:30 < Casteil> actually..
05:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> I just spent like 30
05:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> actually
05:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> 45 minutes
05:30 < Casteil> it's pretty easy to learn pythong
05:30 <+layer-eight> ACKCHYUALLY https://i.imgur.com/YxcBscE.png what?
05:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> making this fucking bot, and somoene sneaks it in layer-eight ??
05:30 < Casteil> McDonaldsWiFi: sounds like an epic waste of time >.>
05:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> yeah now I"m sad
05:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> I'm gonna make it response to DrGibby|
05:31 < rpifan>  why does windows not come iwth pyton
05:31 <+layer-eight> you'll never get that 30 minutes  back either
05:31 <+DrGibby|> actually
05:31 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> McDonaldsWiFi: What are you working on?
05:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> when someone says DrGibby|'s nick itll say something mean
05:31 <+layer-eight> ACKCHYUALLY https://i.imgur.com/YxcBscE.png
05:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> SysAdminGoneCraZ: a bot that would say "AKSHUALLY http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/191/035/135.png" when someone said actually as their first word in their sentence
05:31 <+DrGibby|> then why would I need to be here, McDonaldsWiFi?
05:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> :(
05:31 <+MillerBOSS> McDonaldsWiFi 👉 .say #reddit-sysadmin ACKCHYUALLY https://i.imgur.com/YxcBscE.png
05:32 <+MillerBOSS> No script needed. :P
05:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> WAIT
05:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> god dammit
05:32 <+MillerBOSS> NO YOU WAIT
05:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> you ufuckin with me
05:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> ;_;
05:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> ok
05:32 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> lol
05:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> so script is back in bidness
05:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> i just gotta figure out why my sleep timer is fucked
05:33 <+layer-eight> ACKCHYUALLY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ McDonaldsWiFi
05:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> okay here we go, timer is broken but this is a prod test
05:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> don't spam too much lol
05:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> actually...
05:34 < Schlonger> AKSHUALLY http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/191/035/135.png
05:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> YES
05:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> but you can spam this bitch to hell and back
05:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> actually
05:34 < Schlonger> AKSHUALLY http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/191/035/135.png
05:34  * MillerBOSS waits
05:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> maybe we shouldn't tell anyone and just leave it.....
05:35 <+MillerBOSS> Too late
05:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> actually... its not
05:35 < Schlonger> AKSHUALLY http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/191/035/135.png
05:35 <+MillerBOSS> Mods always lurk
05:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> yeah this isn't funny anymore
05:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
05:35 <+MillerBOSS> Ha ha
05:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> we need to a new meme
05:35 <+MillerBOSS> what
05:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> oh I have a fun one
05:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> gotta crash the poor guy
05:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> actually
05:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> last test and i'm going to bed
05:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> and taking Schlonger with me O.o
05:37 < Casteil> I'm going to bed
05:37 < Casteil> no testes
05:37 <+MillerBOSS> Make a trading bot McDonaldsWiFi
05:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> :'(
05:37 <+DrGibby|> no testies
05:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> MillerBOSS: can i make it trade meme
05:37 <+MillerBOSS> Sure
05:37 < suttin> Actually
05:37 <+layer-eight> ACKCHYUALLY https://i.imgur.com/YxcBscE.png
05:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> huehuehue there's a new trigger word :>
05:38 < McDonaldsWiFi> gtfo MillerBOSS
05:38 < voidstar> .bofh
05:38 <+layer-eight> voidstar, BOFH says: user to computer ratio too high.
05:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> DrGibby|:
05:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> aww its broken
05:39 <+DrGibby|> McDonaldsWiFi:
05:39 <+MillerBOSS> McDonaldsWiFi DrGibby|
05:39 <+MillerBOSS> .bofh
05:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> oh I spelled it wrong
05:39 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS, BOFH says: Telecommunications is downgrading.
05:39 <+DrGibby|> MillerBOSS:
05:39 <+MillerBOSS> What are we getting downgraded to?
05:39 <+DrGibby|> life
05:40 < voidstar> 900 baud
05:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> okay.. last last test
05:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> testie
05:40 < voidstar> .bofh
05:40 <+layer-eight> voidstar, BOFH says: Reformatting Page. Wait...
05:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> DrGibby|:
05:40 < Schlonger> Fuck DrGibby|
05:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> lmao
05:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> DrGibby|: I'm sorry, you don't even deserve this hate
05:41 < Schlonger> Fuck DrGibby|
05:42  * DrGibby| shrugs
05:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> its from a place of love
05:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> mcgovernnn:
05:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> McDonaldsWiFi:
05:42 < Schlonger> McDonaldsWiFi is a sexy beast.
05:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> okay enough of my 12 year old humor
05:43 < Casteil> s/sexy /she/
05:43 <+layer-eight> Schlonger meant: "McDonaldsWiFi is a shebeast."
05:43 <+layer-eight> you will be waiting for a while for this reformat voidstar
05:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> ;_;
05:44 <+DrGibby|> actually, 11*
05:44 < Casteil> thanks for the assist, layer-eight
05:44  * Casteil high fives the cybernetic part of layer-eight 
05:44 <+layer-eight> ACKCHYUALLY https://i.imgur.com/YxcBscE.png Casteil
05:44 < Casteil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98RbeUllar4
05:44 <+layer-eight> YouTube The Simpsons - Why you little by 2014-11-23T20:36:48.000Z (duration: 4s) on Mon Nov 24 03:36:48 UTC 2014, 2014-11-23T20:36:48.000Z views
05:45  * MillerBOSS needs food
05:45 < Casteil> I need to sleep
05:45 <+MillerBOSS> Hardees?
05:45 < Casteil> I keep saying I'm going
05:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> night fellas
05:45 <+MillerBOSS> Its too early for that Casteil
05:45 < Casteil> it's nearly midnight here :P
05:46 <+MillerBOSS> McDonaldsWiFi 👉 where are you?
05:46 <+MillerBOSS> You get up in here rather early like 4am
05:46 <+MillerBOSS> The date & time is currently: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 10:46:23 PM
05:46 <+MillerBOSS> Earth's time ^
05:47 <+MillerBOSS> Wow that script really needs help [03:44:49] m00nie::youtube::getinfo IDS are {snippet {publishedAt 2014-11-23T20:36:48.000Z title {The Simpsons - Why you little} channelTitle {Zaebali Vse Niki Vziali}} contentDetails {duration PT4S} statistics {viewCount 501355}}
06:29 <+MillerBOSS> .bofh
06:29 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS, BOFH says: Password is too complex to decrypt
06:30 <+MillerBOSS> Sounds like Microsoft and their 16 character limit
06:38 < SysAdminGoneCraZ>  Sayyyy whaaaat?
06:38 <+MillerBOSS> what>?
06:38 <+MillerBOSS> And what
06:39 < fuhry> refurb'd cisco 2960s came in for my home LAN, all set up with PoE wifi (previously plumbed), a few vlans and ELK logging. productive evening.
06:39 <+DrGibby|> suh
06:40 < voidstar> dop due
06:40 < voidstar> s/dop/sop
06:40 <+layer-eight> voidstar meant: "sop due"
06:54 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjB_ECh37Cs  Source: Google Play Music will be replaced by YouTube's upcoming music streaming service, with Play Music users forced to use the new service by the end of 2018
06:54 <+layer-eight> YouTube Life, Liberty & Levin - Sunday April 22 2018 by 2018-04-23T11:07:27.000Z (duration: 40:09) on Mon Apr 23 18:07:27 UTC 2018, 2018-04-23T11:07:27.000Z views
06:54 <+MillerBOSS> Wrong link https://www.techmeme.com/180424/p36#a180424p36 > Source: Google Play Music will be replaced by YouTube's upcoming music streaming service, with Play Music users forced to use the new service by the end of 2018
06:56 < mal_will> You know life is weird and meaningless when you get an 80% on your GCED practice test and a 62% on your sec+ practice test  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  CompTIA is srs bzns
06:58 < madvillain> they stopped paying for the sec+ exam in the military because so many people were failing, so they made their own version. I feel bad for people getting out now that try to use it on their resume
06:58 < mal_will> use which version, sec+ or military?
06:58 < madvillain> military because its not "real"
06:59 < mal_will> tbh sec+ isn't like, actually hard. It's dumb in many ways.
06:59 < mal_will> I got this doozy:
07:00 <+MillerBOSS> https://doublepulsar.com/hijack-of-amazons-internet-domain-service-used-to-reroute-web-traffic-for-two-hours-unnoticed-3a6f0dda6a6f >Between 11am until 1pm UTC today, DNS traffic — the phone book of the internet, routing you to your favourite websites — was hijacked by an unknown actor.
07:00 < mal_will> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/GmbDH52i/1524632403682.jpeg
07:00 < mal_will> dang
07:00 < madvillain> classic
07:00 < mal_will> I honestly didn't know the answer
07:01 < mal_will> it was my last question and I just kind of ran out of fucks
07:01 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> mal_will: I would go with Cellphone. Did I win!?
07:01 < mal_will> lemme check
07:01 < mal_will> ...it's fingerprints
07:01 < madvillain> Idk because you can tie a cellphone too someone with the imei
07:01 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> LOL
07:02 < mal_will> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/FH1StImv/IMG_20180424_230157.jpg
07:02 < mal_will> I just. Hwat in tarnation
07:02 < mal_will> That has to be a typpo in the question maybe?
07:02 <+MillerBOSS> Of course its D. The other three can be changed.
07:03 < mal_will> you been drinking tonight?
07:03 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> MillerBOSS: That question is all fucked up lol
07:03 < madvillain> yea that exam has weird questions
07:04 < madvillain> dont miss it and hate everytime I have to reup it
07:04 < mal_will> I just want to keep my comptia streak up
07:04 < madvillain> I wish I took it when it was lifetime
07:04 < mal_will> I have A, and Net, and I just want Sec.
07:04 < mal_will> my husband has the lifetime A+ and I resent him more and more each day
07:05 <+MillerBOSS> Its fingerprints but the NOT should not be there https://www.cs.cornell.edu/courses/cs513/2005fa/NNLauthPeople.html
07:05 < mal_will> I liked haircut as an answer
07:06 < mal_will> I like how Sec+ is all like "disable SSID broadcast" and GSEC is like "Don't bother, it's on every header"
07:13 < mal_will> I'm having trouble thinking of a real-life example of an immutable system
07:13 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> mal_will: Well, you don't wanna make it EASIER but not disabling it lol
07:14 < mal_will> I can side with both arguments there, but it sure does trip me up when I get those questions
07:14 < mal_will> what do you want from me, you digital spinx?
07:14 < mal_will> sphinx*
07:15 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXm4GJMUlP0 https://webysvi.share.thousandeyes.com/view/tests/?roundId=1524569400&metric=availability&scenarioId=dnsServer&testId=619444&serverId=239927
07:15 <+layer-eight> YouTube Analysis of Amazon Route 53 BGP Hijack by 2018-04-24T23:57:05.000Z (duration: 4:s) on Wed Apr 25 06:57:05 UTC 2018, 2018-04-24T23:57:05.000Z views
07:15 < mal_will> a pile of shit has a thousand eyes
07:16 < mal_will> Ah, that's neat tho
07:19 <+MillerBOSS> But the idiots that did this didn't even create a signed cert as they could so..
07:20 <+MillerBOSS> https://twitter.com/GossiTheDog/status/988785336112369665
07:20 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.techmeme.com/180424/p28#a180424p28 Attackers successfully rerouted DNS requests for myetherwallet.com, showing visitors an unsigned SSL cert and apparently taking $13K+ in Ethereum in two hours
07:21 < mal_will> It takes like 30 seconds to grab a let's encrypt. Lazy
07:21 <+MillerBOSS> Uhhh
07:21 <+MillerBOSS> Presumably the hackers didn't have access to the servers of the websites
07:21 <+MillerBOSS> So I am not sure how that would work
07:22 < mal_will> You just by a similar comain though
07:22 <+MillerBOSS> What?
07:22 < mal_will> I mean, to be less sloppy, buy a similar domain name, then cert that
07:22 < mal_will> not like it mattered though
07:22 < mal_will> since people I guess didn't heed the warning and clicked on through
07:23 < mal_will> ? I think? I inly skimmed the article
07:23 <+MillerBOSS> But who is going to use the similar domain you are suggesting which allow the "hackers" to grab all traffic?
07:23 < mal_will> the hackers
07:23 <+MillerBOSS> lol OK.
07:23 < mal_will> Sounds like they rerouted dns to their site, which was the uncerted site?
07:24 <+MillerBOSS> No
07:24 <+MillerBOSS> How are they gonna gather any data then?
07:25 <+MillerBOSS> Feel free to read the article first. :)
07:25 <+MillerBOSS> They re-routed DNS traffic using a man in the middle attack using a server at Equinix in Chicago.
07:25 <+MillerBOSS> From there, they served traffic for over two hours.
07:25 < mal_will> that wouldn't stop them from reading data
07:25  * MillerBOSS scratches her head
07:26 < mal_will> It would have taken longer for people to notice
07:28 < mal_will> Yeah though, the article you posted is unclear on the actual specifics
07:29 < mal_will> if it's just BGP then my thoughts on the cert don't apply
07:34 < mal_will> I've read through a few vague articles and I'm still not seeing how purchasing a cert for their own server, or purchasing a cert for a similar domain and ridirecting to that domain wouldn't have at least mitigated the issue of the untrusted cert, and possibly prolonged the attack
07:34 < mal_will> but if you care to enlighten me here, I'm all ears.
07:35 < mal_will> Also, I don't think it was an Equinix server, it's just one in a datacenter owned my Equinix
07:41 < mal_will> Yeah, dude. I mean, I would like to know if I'm overlooking something, but I'm gonna leave this article right here: https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/24/myetherwallet-hit-by-dns-attack/
07:59 < plop> morning
07:59 < mal_will> sup
08:00 <+MillerBOSS> Damn its that time already plop
08:00 < plop> it is MillerBOSS, it is.
08:00 < plop> how is it going?
08:00 < mal_will> So you're not going to talk about the mew thing anymore MillerBOSS ?
08:00 <+MillerBOSS> Well. Jamming to tunes and doing random shit
08:01 <+MillerBOSS> Whats there to talk about mal_will?
08:01 < plop> MillerBOSS, awesome. care to share to tunes?
08:01 < mal_will> That what I said is legit and that you can't really say why you think I'm wrong?
08:01 <+MillerBOSS> https://open.spotify.com/user/spotify/playlist/37i9dQZF1DX8a1tdzq5tbM?si=bh2QdyVXSWOKw5nmT-imLQ plop
08:01 < plop> MillerBOSS is always right
08:01 < mal_will> Also, realized since they had full control of dns for that moment, they didn't even need to purchase a new cert, they could have just reissued it to themselves
08:02 < plop> dancing!
08:02 < mal_will> except when he's wrong
08:02 < mal_will> lol
08:02 <+MillerBOSS> I'll believe the professionals and not the random reddit user.
08:02 < mal_will> Oh, like MEW?
08:03 <+MillerBOSS> Nope.
08:03 < mal_will> That’s the message that MEW gave to its community.
08:03 < mal_will> “Users, PLEASE ENSURE there is a green bar SSL certificate that says “MyEtherWallet  Inc” before making any transactions. We advise users to run a local (offline) copy of the MEW (MyEtherWallet). We urge users to use hardware wallets to store their cryptocurrencies,” it said in a Reddit statement.
08:03 < mal_will> Who are the professionals then?
08:03 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah so?
08:03 < mal_will> The elite DNS squad?
08:03 <+MillerBOSS> wow
08:04 < mal_will> I'm honestly asking, who are the professionals?
08:05 < voidstar> professionals? on irc?
08:05 < mal_will> Feel free to read the article :)
08:05 <+MillerBOSS> For one, it was Route 53 https://webysvi.share.thousandeyes.com/view/tests/?roundId=1524567600&metric=path-changes&scenarioId=bgpRouteVisualization&testId=619444&serverId=239927&prefixId=2002127
08:05 < mal_will> there be no professionals here voidstar
08:05 < mal_will> So?
08:05 <+MillerBOSS> I didn't say on IRC
08:06 < mal_will> Does that somehow mean that SSL certs don't apply?
08:06 <+MillerBOSS> What is your question?
08:06 <+MillerBOSS> I don't get it
08:06 < mal_will> Or that reissuing or purchasing one for the site users were directed to might have prolonged the attack?
08:06 < mal_will> I'm saying if they had redirected to a certed site, it would have taken longer for people to notice
08:07 < mal_will> but they didn't, they redirected to a site without certs, and that's what caused people to notice
08:07 <+MillerBOSS> Sure it would. Its the same as CloudFlare being a proxy for customers gets you a cert that is basically a mitm but signed
08:07 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah. Whats your point? I am confused still
08:07 < mal_will> I guess you misunderstood from the getgo
08:07 <+MillerBOSS> Must have
08:08 < voidstar> he's hard stuck on this dns thing
08:08 <+MillerBOSS> voidstar 👉 who?
08:10 < mal_will> I mean they did hijack dns to cause the redirect to the uncerted site
08:10 < mal_will> I think we're both stuck on DNS here?
08:11 <+MillerBOSS> I surely am not.
08:11 <+MillerBOSS> lol
08:11 < mal_will> I don't know what you're on
08:11 <+MillerBOSS> I stopped back here 12:25:55 AM MillerBOSS	scratches her head
08:11 <+MillerBOSS> Then I got this 01:00:55 AM  mal_will	So you're not going to talk about the mew thing anymore +MillerBOSS ?
08:11 <+MillerBOSS> ;)
08:12 <+MillerBOSS> What? Lmao on?
08:12 < The_Dv8or> sup
08:12 < mal_will> Yeah, it was pretty clear this whole time
08:12 <+MillerBOSS> Whats pretty clear?
08:12 <+MillerBOSS> Hey The_Dv8or
08:12 < mal_will> you acted like certing the website they redirected to was, idk what your point was, wrong?
08:13 < mal_will> "how will they gather data?"
08:13 <+MillerBOSS> Huh?
08:13 < mal_will> ...like normal...just with an encrypted connection to their own servers...
08:13 < plop> .bofh
08:13 <+layer-eight> plop, BOFH says: Having to manually track the satellite.
08:13 < mal_will> +MillerBOSS> Miller Boss No
08:13 < mal_will> 11:24:51 PM How are they gonna gather any data then?
08:13 < plop> you know, with a compass
08:14 <+MillerBOSS> A big compass
08:14 < mal_will> <+MillerBOSS> Miller Boss But who is going to use the similar domain you are suggesting which allow the "hackers" to grab all traffic?
08:14 < mal_will> I mean, this is p basic
08:15 <+MillerBOSS> You brought up using a similar domain which made no sense to me. Are you sure you are not on something yourself, miss?
08:15 < mal_will> Similar domain in that, when they redirected to that certed, similar domain name, it'd take longer for people to notice
08:16 < mal_will> obv, like when people buy like, securebanktransatlons.com hoping to fool someone
08:16 <+MillerBOSS> Its a MITM not come to the site I just set up.
08:16 < mal_will> someone thinking they connected to the real securebanktransactions
08:16 < mal_will> no, it wasn
08:17 < mal_will> feel free to read the articles
08:17 <+MillerBOSS> Why the insistence?
08:17 < mal_will> but it's even easier since they had DNs inder control, they could have just reissued the cert for myetherwallet.com to themselves
08:17 <+MillerBOSS> OK I am wrong. Would that make you feel better? lol
08:18 < mal_will> You don't know what happened, but you act like I didn't know
08:18 <+MillerBOSS> Lol what?
08:18 < mal_will> You don't know what happened, but you act like I didn't know
08:18 < mal_will> did I stutter?
08:18 <+MillerBOSS> Lol what?
08:18 <+MillerBOSS> Clearly something is wrong over there
08:19 < mal_will> again:
08:19 < mal_will> <+MillerBOSS> Miller Boss
08:19 < mal_will> 11:25:01 PM Feel free to read the article first. :)
08:19 <+MillerBOSS> Are we still going on about this?
08:19 <+MillerBOSS> Really?
08:19 < mal_will> Sure
08:20 <+MillerBOSS> I stopped 55 minutes ago 12:25:55 AM MillerBOSS	scratches her head
08:20 <+MillerBOSS> Thanks.
08:20 < mal_will> maybe you'll spread accurate info now that you know
08:20 <+MillerBOSS> No I still don't know
08:20 < plop> .seen cryptic1
08:20 < mal_will> well then maybe you'll stop spreading innacurate info
08:20 <+layer-eight> cryptic1 was last seen quitting 14 hours 26 seconds ago. Disconnected by services
08:20 <+MillerBOSS> .seen hater1
08:20 <+layer-eight> hater1 spoke in #reddit-sysadmin 4 hours 50 minutes 5 seconds ago. Message: hater gonna hate
08:21 < plop> get back to work
08:21 <+MillerBOSS> I will only spread inaccurate information, thank you.
08:21 <+MillerBOSS> Will it make you feel better if I say I like Hillary instead of Trump?
08:22 < mal_will> and I'll call you out on it if I see it :)
08:22 < mal_will> that came out of left field...
08:23 < mal_will> didja hit your head?
08:24 < vader-> Sup
08:24 < plop> hey vader-
08:24 <+MillerBOSS> https://xkcd.com/386/
08:24 < plop> not much.
08:24 < plop> lol MillerBOSS
08:24 <+MillerBOSS> Nope no head did not get hit.
08:25 < mal_will> go to bed then
08:25 < mal_will> dream of hillary
08:25 < vader-> I was almost asleep and the wife snored
08:25 < vader-> Woke me up and now I can't get to sleep
08:25 < vader-> And of you ever take Ambien
08:25 < plop> vader-, is porn an option?
08:25 < mal_will> It's a trip
08:26 < vader-> Eh I rather just sleep
08:26 < mal_will> ambien always made me sleepwalk. I have no idea how tiger woods used it for orgies
08:26 < vader-> I have slept well in 4 months
08:26 < vader-> Ya I got a low dose perscription
08:27 < vader-> I have to lock my gun up probably... I have heard people doing crazy shit on it
08:27 < vader-> I haven't taken it yet
08:27 < voidstar> ambien keyed me up instead of knocking me down
08:28 < vader-> So what dis you do when you sleep walked?
08:28 < vader-> I told my Dr I can sleep all day long... today I was switching over to a new phone and the transfer was going to take an hour... so.i laid down... 4 hours later I woke up
08:29 < mal_will> Nothing useful
08:29 < voidstar> think more on par of an amphetamine paired with a barbiturate
08:29 < mal_will> sit on the couch like I'm watching tv. talk on an invisible phone.
08:29 < vader-> My wife needs a cpap machine for her snoring
08:29 < mal_will> dang, insta sleep
08:29 < vader-> She is killing me
08:30 < vader-> I've been sleeping in another room lately
08:30 < vader-> Then I gotta deal with her being pissy the next day
08:30 < vader-> Heh
08:30 < voidstar> no, barbiturate is a bad analogy. dextromethorphan is more apt
08:31 < binaryhermit> i didn't like ambien the couple of times I took it on the psych ward
08:31 < mal_will> Lol, sleep is important af
08:31 < binaryhermit> it didn't knock me out for the whole night
08:31 < binaryhermit> now, trazadone, on the other hand
08:31 < mal_will> Trazodone isn't great for me
08:31 < mal_will> I have to take it like two hours in advance
08:32 < voidstar> too dependence creating tbf
08:32 < mal_will> I'm doing melatonin when I can plan my bed time
08:32 < mal_will> I'm surprised how well it works
08:33 < vader-> Melatonin helps me get asleep but I am dead tired the next day
08:33 < plop> i tried melatonin and did nothing to me. but my migraine medication helps to sleep. downside: i wake up with a very dry mouth hah
08:33 < vader-> Like I have narcolepsy
08:34 < vader-> I take sumatriptan for migraines
08:34 < voidstar> antihistamines knock me out. great for my allergies too
08:34 < mal_will> Ashgawanda root is nice
08:34 < mal_will> Nothing beats cough medicine though, imo
08:34 < plop> i take amitryptiline
08:35 < plop> and propranolol which is great
08:35 < voidstar> mal_will, ride the plateau
08:36 < mal_will> Yeee
08:36 < mal_will> I've been trying a new otc mix lately
08:36 < mal_will> Luna by nested naturals
08:37 < mal_will> Gaba, melatonin, passion flower, valerian, and chamomile in one pill
08:38 < mal_will> Id recommend it for when trazodone is too much but you've had too much cough syrup lately and are afraid of becoming an addict
08:38 < plop> yo ceofreak
08:39 < ceofreak> Suuuuuuupppp Nerds
08:39 < plop> ceofreak, how much caffeine did you take today already?
08:39 < ceofreak> Just one sip right now
08:39 < ceofreak> Literally
08:40 < vader-> That's one thing I need to cut back on
08:40 < ceofreak> Oh god no
08:40 < vader-> I know that doesn't help my sleep issues
08:40 < ceofreak> Plop whats up with you
08:41 < plop> ceofreak, not much, kinda slacking before the fucking morning meeting. or boring meeting as i call it.
08:41 < plop> need to set up some POS systems today. i hate those.
08:41 < ceofreak> fuck meetings
08:41 < ceofreak> I have 1 meeting a week gladly
08:41 < plop> yeah, fuck meetings
08:42 < ceofreak> Do you also have public holiday tuesday?
08:42 < vader-> So what phone platform do you guys use? Apple or.Android?
08:44 < vader-> Damn don't all rush to answer :)
08:45 < plop> ceofreak, yep. worker's day
08:45 < ceofreak> awesome
08:45 < ceofreak> I took monday off, looong weekend
08:46 < plop> ceofreak, get your camera already
08:46 < ceofreak> man
08:46 < ceofreak> I was about to sell my 35mm to get a 55-200
08:46 < plop> don't
08:47 < ceofreak> and as always the fucking bitch didnt show up
08:47 < plop> fuck tele zooms
08:47 < ceofreak> I got a 16-55
08:47 < ceofreak> which sits on my camera at all times
08:47 < ceofreak> and I really like those compressed views of things you know
08:47 < ceofreak> like a tree in the fog or shit
08:48 < plop> ceofreak, true. but for me, those pictures always lack context.
08:48 < ceofreak> true
08:48 < plop> so now i'm a 28mm fan
08:49 < ceofreak> yes.
08:49 < ceofreak> 35mm is too narrow for me
08:49 < plop> 24 too wide.
08:49 < ceofreak> jup
08:50 < plop> anyway. brb
08:50 < ceofreak> hf bro
08:52 < Atro> sup losers
08:52 < ceofreak> Sup atro
08:52 < Atro> hangover at work
08:52 < Atro> due to dept beers
08:52 < ceofreak> Your eastern european genes can handle it
08:53 < Atro> ye
08:53 < Atro> i sleep few hours when i drink, which gives me time to sober up, mitigate hangover, fall back to sleep
09:39 < meowschwitz> goddommit fronk
09:54 <+MillerBOSS> What meow?
10:07 < Hatsjoe> Morning
10:13 < Reverend> morning nerds
10:16 < Atro> Jesus fuck, you guys are alright, but i had to fucking use Wireshark to prove that the VPN did not magically create SMB_DENY_ACCESS packets
10:16 < Atro> to a windows colleague
10:16 < Atro> the fucker
10:17 < plop> Atro, sure it is DNS
10:17 < Atro> plop: no, it's just a shitty share on some windows xp box
10:17 < Atro> and a stupid colleague
10:17 < plop> xp home?
10:18 < Atro> iudk
10:30 < Apooti_> yo
10:30 < Apooti_> anyone having issues with google's DNS today?
10:30 < Apooti_> can't seem to resolve half the websites
10:38 <+MillerBOSS> It may be geographically isolated. Working here just fine also you can test https://dns.google.com/ or nslookup FQDN 8.8.8.8
11:08 < Trapdoor> don't read reviews on slippers
11:08 < Trapdoor> holy shit people are dumb
11:09 < Trapdoor> infuriatingly dumb
11:09 < Trapdoor> https://www.amazon.com/Sorel-Mens-Falcon-Ridge-Slipper/dp/B0016A1D8G?th=1
11:10 < Trapdoor> it's obvious the vast majority of the negative reviewers are wearing them outside
11:12 < Trapdoor> either that or they're fat fucks
11:14 < meowschwitz> honestly
11:14 < meowschwitz> the thought of READING REVIEWS ON SLIPPERS never really occured to me
11:14 < bomb> what does that even mean?
11:14 < Trapdoor> well, I'm looking for a replacement pair
11:15 < Trapdoor> if you've worn steel-toed boots for 12 hours straight, nothing is better than stepping into a pair of hella soft slippers
11:15 < bomb> are you working in a construction site or something?
11:16 < Trapdoor> nah I work for an oil exploration company, I get maybe 30-60 offshore days a year
11:16 < bomb> sounds dangerous
11:16 < Trapdoor> it's not
11:16 < bomb> i'd quit and just find a software company
11:16 < Trapdoor> oh you'd quit and just find a software company?
11:17 < bomb> i mean, software companies aren't the best places in the world
11:17 < Trapdoor> offshore work is roughly $1000 a day
11:17 < bomb> but oil stuff is, you know
11:17 < bomb> well, fuck it then, oil keeps our cars moving
11:18 < Trapdoor> oil exploration, not drilling
11:18 < bomb> how do you actually search for oil?
11:18 < bomb> you're on a ship, i assume
11:18 < Trapdoor> electromagnetic pulse generators
11:18 < meowschwitz> Trapdoor: you work on a literal rig?
11:18 < Trapdoor> no ours is lateral
11:18 < Trapdoor> horizontal
11:18 < Trapdoor> a boat
11:19 < bomb> man said he doesn't drill
11:19 < Trapdoor> man's not a driller
11:19 < Trapdoor> it's 95% routine work once everything is set up, it's pretty sweet
11:19 < Trapdoor> Push a couple of buttons, wait an hour, push some more buttons, boat moves to the next location
11:19 < Trapdoor> rinse and repeat
11:20 < Trapdoor> for 4 weeks
11:20 < meowschwitz> holy shit awesome
11:20 < Trapdoor> I'd do worse for $1000 a day
11:21 < FenJai> Morning peeps
11:22 < bomb> does your job involve any sysadmin task?
11:22 < bomb> morning FenJai
11:22 < Trapdoor> Sure if anything breaks while I'm out there bomb
11:22 < Trapdoor> An MSP comes in when I'm offshore
11:22 < bomb> so you're actually managing the software you use for exploration
11:22 < Trapdoor> managing and developing, yea
11:23 < bomb> oh you wrote the thing?
11:23 < bomb> let me guess, in Java
11:23 < Trapdoor> not the whole thing, I'd be ashamed if I wrote the whole thing
11:23 < Trapdoor> fuck oracle
11:23 < bomb> heh
11:23 < bomb> swing or javafx?
11:23 < Trapdoor> the only thing running java in this company is our printer/copier
11:23 < Trapdoor> C and C#
11:23 < meowschwitz> seconded
11:23 < meowschwitz> fuck oracle
11:24  * meowschwitz gives Trapdoor a rake
11:24 < bomb> WPF or WinForms?
11:24 < bomb> it's funny all this billion-dollar business relies on a single Windows XP PC
11:25 < Trapdoor> I don't touch the C/C# stuff, I just write prototype shit in python and tell our 3rd party to implement new features
11:25 < meowschwitz> > funny
11:25 < Trapdoor> Oh we don't run on a windows xp machine
11:25 < Trapdoor> it's all win srv2016
11:26 < bomb> cool cool
11:26 < Trapdoor> But yea probably not wpf or winforms
11:26 < Trapdoor> most of the software is hella old
11:26 < bomb> i'm sure it's one of those, unless MFC
11:27 < Trapdoor> some of the interfaces were written in VB
11:27 < bomb> oh fuck
11:27 < Trapdoor> that doesn't matter much though, we don't control anything directly with this software, it just controls other equipment
11:28 < Trapdoor> we configure and start tasks pretty much
11:28 < Trapdoor> for visual basic it is hella stable
11:28 < bomb> no failure>
11:29 < Trapdoor> none
11:29 < Trapdoor> well, you can make it crash if you're deliberate
11:29 < Trapdoor> you shouldn't though
11:31 < bomb> i should start making software that runs on Windows servers
11:31 < bomb> they make good money
11:32 < Trapdoor> before I was in charge the servers were hella running the bare minimum
11:33 < Trapdoor> three completely different servers, one was just a rackmounted precision workstation
11:35 < bomb> so you bought new boxes?
11:36 < Trapdoor> aww yea, now we're running a vrtx with 4 identical blades
11:36 < Trapdoor> also took delivery of an r740xd a couple of days ago, dual xeon 5122, 128gb ram
11:38 < Trapdoor> Oil exploration companies are great if you like toys
11:38 < Trapdoor> I didn't even know there was a socket
11:38 < Trapdoor> FCLGA3647
11:40 < Trapdoor> look at this fucking socket bomb: https://www.hwcooling.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Asus-C621E-Sage-00.jpg
11:40 < bomb> ayyy. well it's a rich company
11:41 < Apooti_> why bother with crap like asus when it comes to dual socket and xeons
11:41 < Apooti_> just stick to enterprise grade stuff like SuperMicro
11:41 < Trapdoor> Apooti_, idk it was just an example
11:41 < Trapdoor> https://www.servethehome.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Intel-Xeon-D-Broadwell-DE-package-over-a-LGA-3647-socket.jpg
11:41 < bomb> Trapdoor: how much does the company pay to the software devs?
11:42 < Trapdoor> look at the size of that fucking socket
11:42 < bomb> 3rd party ones
11:42 < Apooti_> Trapdoor, yep but you're missing something
11:42 < Apooti_> the CPU mounting and assembly
11:42 < Apooti_> its horrific thanks to Intel
11:42 < Trapdoor> no latches
11:43 < Trapdoor> not sure bomb, probably $millions when they were actively developing the software
11:44 < bomb> I WANT THOS MILLINOS
11:44 < bomb> i just installed visual studio
11:44 < Apooti_> Trapdoor, its not the latches
11:44 < Apooti_> its the fact that the CPU is only held down by the heatsink
11:45 < Apooti_> and the heatsink has T30 screws
11:45 < Apooti_> as per intel's spec
11:45 < Trapdoor> I don't see the problem really
11:45 < Apooti_> also in a lot of systems you first mount the CPU to the heatsink and then mount the heatsink WITH the CPU
11:45 < Trapdoor> ugh now that's a problem, unless the heatsink has an indented slot for the cpu
11:46 < Apooti_> it has a plastic bracket
11:46 < Trapdoor> oh dude speaking of dumb computer shit
11:46 < Apooti_> and its still an issue since missing the socket is not that hard
11:46 < Trapdoor> Dell's Precision 5820 towers?
11:46 < Apooti_> they're cool
11:46 < Trapdoor> they're cool but
11:46 < Apooti_> but?
11:46 < Trapdoor> I was swapping a drive from an old precision to that one
11:46 < Trapdoor> First step? Take off the side panel of course
11:46 < Trapdoor> Nope, wrong, absolutely wrong
11:46 < Apooti_> oh yea with the alarm
11:47 < Trapdoor> Oh fuck the alarm, that wasn't a problem
11:47 < Trapdoor> The machine shuts down
11:47 < Apooti_> you can most likely disable that in BIOS
11:47 < Trapdoor> You can, but it wasn't setup that way
11:47 < Trapdoor> *me on the floor*: uuuh... you weren't doing anything important were you?
11:47 < Apooti_> all depends on how and where you order it
11:47 < Apooti_> plus the HDDs are technically not hot-swappable
11:48 < Apooti_> so you know...
11:48 < Trapdoor> Yea but here's the kicker
11:48 < Trapdoor> you don't need to take the side panel off to install the drives
11:48 < Trapdoor> In fact it won't help you one bit
11:48 < Trapdoor> they've gone of the way of the poweredges, with sata backplanes
11:48 < Apooti_> gimme a sec, ill i'm gonna find the manual on EducateDell
11:50 < Trapdoor> I bet you they don't explain how to remove the 2.5" adapter for the 3.5" drive caddies
11:50 < Apooti_> oh shit
11:51 < Apooti_> its one of those screwless caddies
11:51 < Trapdoor> I get it, I get why they did it, it's a fantastic idea
11:51 < Trapdoor> but the instructions on how to remove the 2.5" adapter is fucking impossible to understand
11:52 < Apooti_> thats why prefer the poweredge caddies
11:52 < Apooti_> the adapter from 3.5" to 2.5" is a solid lump of steel
11:53 < Apooti_> thats held in place with 3 screws
11:53 < Trapdoor> https://i.imgur.com/pRegzTr.jpg check it out
11:54 < Apooti_> nice
11:54 < Trapdoor> it felt like installing a socket 775 cpu
11:54 < Apooti_> i hate the screwless caddies though
11:54 < Trapdoor> you know the feeling? like you're doing something wrong and you're going to fucking break it?
11:54 < Apooti_> yea
11:54 < Apooti_> i also know the feeling of installing a 771 cpu inside a 775 socket
11:54 < Trapdoor> you're just pushing the lever further and further down, expecting it to snap
11:55 < Apooti_> after you remove the only existing plastic latches so that the 771 cpu will fit
11:55 < Apooti_> and theres nothing to lock the CPU in place other than the metal frame
11:55 < Trapdoor> oh god
11:56 < Apooti_> still running one of those at home to this day
11:56 < Trapdoor> jesus christ this socket is huge
11:57 < Trapdoor> sorry back to the lga3647 lol
11:59 < Trapdoor> aight gotta do some actual work
13:02 < Reverend> Did anyone read that cloudflare BGP blog yesterday night?
13:02 < Reverend> Pretty interesting read re the crypto hijacking yesterday.
13:04 < plop> so, this guy who works kinda into my department, bought 4 outdoor tv's online from another country and now they're stuck in customs lol
13:04 < plop> management is gonna be so pissed
13:05 < Reverend> oh damn son. how much you gonna have to pay for customs ?
13:05 < plop> 5k or something
13:05 < Reverend> ohhhhhhh shit.
13:05 < Reverend> hahahaha
13:06 < plop> they're 4 70-80" outdoor TV's arround 18k€ lol
13:06 < Trapdoor> don't you get that money back anyway?
13:06 < plop> not sure... this is why i buy from locals. maybe a little bit expensive but service is great.
13:06 < Reverend> TrapdoorI don't think you do in the uk
13:06 < Reverend> at lest.
13:06 < Trapdoor> corporations don't pay sales tax in Norway
13:06 < Reverend> least*. It's classed as import tax. fairly sure businesses pay for it . :S maybe I'm wrong tho
13:07 < Reverend> sales tax != import tax here i think
13:07 < plop> and if a TV malfunctions we'll need to send it back to the suppliers
13:07 < Trapdoor> same with import tax
13:07 < Trapdoor> As long as you don't resell it, it's fine
13:07 < Reverend> oh nice.
13:08 < plop> so, that was a UK supplier but goods came from china. so... not sure how it will pan out
13:12 < Reverend> plop that's weird.
13:12 < Reverend> not sure what customs will make of that :S
13:12 < plop> Reverend, yeah. i agree. but i'm happy he's screwing the thing hah
13:12 < atom138> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/04/suspicious-event-hijacks-amazon-traffic-for-2-hours-steals-cryptocurrency/
13:12 < atom138> Discuss. Holy moly.
13:14 < Reverend> atom138 - Read. there's a better one on cloudflare
13:14 < atom138> Yeah I was wondering if the same thing could be done there too
13:14 < Reverend> same thing here as in...?
13:15 < atom138> The exploit, cloudflare
13:15 < Reverend> Oh
13:15 < Reverend> it's hardly an explot
13:15 < Reverend> s/ot/oit
13:15 <+layer-eight> Reverend meant: "it's hardly an exploit"
13:16 < Reverend> it's BGP. Do you know how BGP works?
13:16 < atom138> Yes, I just read the article. I see what you mean now.
13:16 < atom138> Title was misleading.
13:17 < Reverend> well, if you know how BGP works... they you'll also know that yes it's possible. That route hijack that went out yesterday actually effected our network here.
13:29 <+MillerBOSS> System Information: Model: MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2017) • CPU: Intel Core i7-7700HQ (8 Threads, 4 Cores) @ 2.80 GHz • Memory: 16.00 GB • Uptime: 19 minutes • Disk Space: 250.69 GB • Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 630, Radeon Pro 555 • Display Resolution: 2560 x 1600 • OS: macOS High Sierra (Version 10.13.5, Build 17F45c)
13:40 < catbeard> Anyone else in PH have issues with Google or 8.8.8.8 today?
13:44 < uptime> catbeard: from a few hours ago in here: <Apooti_> anyone having issues with google's DNS today? <Apooti_> can't seem to resolve half the websites
13:44 < uptime> not sure of their location though
13:44 <+MillerBOSS> Can you ping Google DNS IPs catbeard ?
13:45 < catbeard> I think it was a PLDT issue
13:45 <+MillerBOSS> You think PLDT would mess with 8.8.8.8 though?
13:45 < catbeard> Like they have a lot AL trunk to Google or something
13:45 < catbeard> Local
13:45 < catbeard> Maybe was down
13:46 < catbeard> Switched to CF dns and migrated to 2nd ISP
13:46 < catbeard> Came back up
13:46 <+MillerBOSS> Interesting
13:48 <+MillerBOSS> What kind of work are you doing there again catbeard ?
13:48 < catbeard> Infosec and IT training
13:49 <+MillerBOSS> For people there?
13:49 < L3gacy> giant_it_burrit, got a sec? :)
13:49 < catbeard> Ya
13:49 < catbeard> And managing their infra here and remotely
13:50 < catbeard> For a BPO that a friend owns
13:50 <+MillerBOSS> Gotchya. I want to move to Ph but finding that remote job is not easy and pay there is not much
13:51 < catbeard> Well I'm also the IT Director.  It's unfortunate that good techs here aren't paid like US employees
13:52 < meowschwitz> here where
13:52 < catbeard> PH
13:52 < meowschwitz> oh
13:52 < meowschwitz> I'm so sorry to hear that
13:52 < meowschwitz> we have an operation there
13:52 < meowschwitz> sheer fucking horror
13:52 < catbeard> Ya?
13:52 < L3gacy> meowschwitz, hai
13:52 < meowschwitz> $building won't give us switch passwords
13:52 < meowschwitz> L3gacy: ohai
13:52 < catbeard> Hahahahahaha
13:52 < catbeard> Feels man
13:52 < catbeard> We just set up our own
13:53 < L3gacy> Wut?  No passwords?!
13:53 < meowschwitz> catbeard: if it was my area of responsibility I'd just bruteforce it
13:53 < catbeard> And removed them
13:53 < catbeard> Err replaced
13:54 < catbeard> Meow
13:54 < catbeard> Looking for a BPO to manage your BPO?
13:54 < catbeard> :)
13:59 < arlion> Good Morning.
13:59 < arlion> Coming at you from the East Coast, It's Tuesday morning Live!
13:59 < L3gacy> It's wednesday....
13:59 <+giant_it_burrit> arlion: coming from nyc...shut the fudge up
13:59 < arlion> Now, Heeerrreee's your host.. Coffee
14:01 < arlion> Ubuntu 18.04 official release is tomorrow.
14:01 < arlion> Doesn't feel like 2 years since 16.04 was release.
14:02 < L3gacy> Git off mah LAN!
14:04 < L3gacy> So... I need tacos and vodka
14:04 < L3gacy> I can't get DriveDroid to allow USB boot on an HP Proliant, but it boots off USB fine with a thumb drive, and drivedroid boots fine on my home PC
14:04 < GreyKite> L3gacy: you need tacos and tequila, it's a more interesting time
14:05 < L3gacy> :O
14:07 < L3gacy> My cousin is Biblically shittarded.  He said I can save money by hotspotting instead of paying Verizon for Fios...
14:07 < L3gacy> I did 1436GB so far this month...  what's that in AT&T dollars?
14:07 < L3gacy> Like... a bakillionty sheckels?
14:08 < GreyKite> L3gacy: well, they now have an unlimited plan
14:08 < L3gacy> And they throttle @ 22gb
14:08 < GreyKite> that throttles the shit out...yeah
14:09 < GreyKite> I mean, 1G/1G fiber or I'm not living there but that's just me
14:09 < L3gacy> I have 1g/1g fiber
14:09 < L3gacy> $99.99 a month
14:09 < GreyKite> I'm a little under that at $70
14:10 < estranger> I'm stuck on not fiber Comcast where I live, sucks
14:10 < GreyKite> estranger: do you like where you live?
14:10 < estranger> Love the town, just renting the house
14:10 < estranger> House is pretty good though besides the internet
14:12 < estranger> I don't need 1g, but a better connection stability wise would be nice
14:18 < GreyKite> How hard is it to break SCCM?
14:19 < GreyKite> from all that I've heard, it's pretty solid software that does it's job well, correct?
14:20 <+MillerBOSS> I can break it for ya GreyKite :D
14:21 < GreyKite> MillerBOSS: oh, it's def broken, I'm just wondering how badly they fucked up to get to this state
14:22 <+MillerBOSS> They as on the minions?
14:22 <+MillerBOSS> s/on/in
14:22 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS meant: "They as in the miniins?"
14:23 < GreyKite> MillerBOSS: as in the master
14:23 <+MillerBOSS> WHAT DID YOU DO?
14:24 < arlion> KABBBOOOOOOMMMMMM
14:24 < GreyKite> MillerBOSS: I didn't do shit
14:24 < GreyKite> but they sure as fuck did something
14:24 <+MillerBOSS> Plug it back in, plug it back in!
14:24 < asimon> Good morning my friends
14:24 <+MillerBOSS> Its asimon
14:24 < catbeard> That was my day today
14:24 < arlion> He have a survivor !
14:24 < catbeard> @ MillerBOSS
14:25 < PEG> Is there a way to set in Outlook client that when booking meetings it's in 45 min blocks? Doing this site wide?
14:25 < plop> lol
14:25 <+MillerBOSS> What was catbeard ?
14:25 < plop> PEG no meeting should be 45 min long.
14:25 < catbeard> Plug it back in lol
14:25 <+MillerBOSS> Oh :P
14:26 < plop> welcome back
14:26 < asimon> What the hell just happened
14:26 < plop> net split
14:26 < meowschwitz> ((( routing ))) problems
14:27 < plop> .bofh
14:27 <+layer-eight> plop, BOFH says: stop bit received
14:29 < asimon> PEG: I don't think you can set it for 45 minutes but if you go to the View ribbon, then "Time Scale", you can set it to 15 minutes
14:30 < asimon> Then you can pick the option for three time scales (45 mins)
14:30 < Sousapro> What's this shenanigans about everyone changing the pistol emoji to a water gun?
14:30 < GreyKite> guns are bad mmmmmkay
14:30 <+MillerBOSS> #sno...
14:30 <+MillerBOSS> #snowflakes
14:31 <+MillerBOSS> Triggers Sousapro
14:31 < Sousapro> Create a watergun emoji and let people choose?
14:31 <+MillerBOSS> But that hurts people's feelings.
14:31 < Sousapro> wat
14:32 <+MillerBOSS> What?
14:32 < Sousapro> people need to put less salt in their diet
14:32 < Sousapro> :P
14:32 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah
14:36 <+MillerBOSS> https://twitter.com/ow/status/989038409359462401
14:38 < Nightcinder> https://i.imgur.com/j7zGPHP.gifv
14:40 < Nightcinder> hm
14:40 < Nightcinder> Special Notice:
14:40 < Nightcinder> We are warning customers about a scam involving a telephone caller posing as an electric company employee threatening to shut off power unless an immediate payment is made using a pre-paid debit card such as a Green Dot card.
14:40 < Bru-> nirb
14:40 < Bru-> morn
14:40 < Bru-> lolol
14:41 <+MillerBOSS> Wow that is a good one actually.
14:42 < SynMonger> well that's their first mistake... since when is any utility up to date enough to take payment via something other than check or bank draft
14:43 < Bru-> right?
14:43 <+MillerBOSS> Google'n that sentence shows its been around since at least 2013.
14:43 < SynMonger> I can't pay my water bill by anything but cash or check
14:43 < Bru-> me either
14:43 < Bru-> i use billpay for it
14:43 < Bru-> but yeah
14:43 < Bru-> check or cash only
14:43 <+MillerBOSS> http://fox8.com/2013/02/18/restaurant-scammed-by-fake-electric-co-worker/
14:44 < Bru-> id be like "certify that shit beeeotch"
14:46 < Alternity> easy $200 if you have money in savings -> https://www.doctorofcredit.com/discover-savings-150200-bonus-1500020000-deposit-new-exp-103117/
14:46 < Alternity> just claimed mine
14:46 < Alternity> 1.5% APY on savings account is pretty good as well
14:51 < tsarbomba> anyone here a newly-minted bitcoin millionaire?
14:52 < Nightcinder> i don't have $25k in savings rn
14:52 < Nightcinder> lol
14:52 < asimon> I have what seems like a stupid question
14:52 <@JollyRgrs> I have what seems like stupid users
14:52 < asimon> JollyRgrs: Don't we all
14:52 < tsarbomba> there are no such things as stupid questions.
14:53 < tsarbomba> only stupid people who ask questions.
14:53 < tsarbomba> j/k what's yr question
14:53 < asimon> I've got a python environment through anaconda that must be python 2.7.6. Trying to install other packages through pip gives the following error "InsecurePlatformWarning: A true SSLContext object is not available. This prevents urllib3 from configuring SSL appropriately and may cause certain SSL connections to fail. You can upgrade to a newer version of Python to solve this. For more information,
14:53 < Nightcinder> wow that's a stupid question
14:54 < asimon> After some googling it seems like newer versions of python (specifically the requests library) upgraded the ssl context to actually be secure
14:54 < Nightcinder> :3
14:54 < Alternity> tsarbomba: if any of us were we probably wouldn't be chatting in irc
14:54 < tsarbomba> asimon, remember, ssl 3 fell out of favor some years back
14:55 < asimon> tsarbomba: Yeah. Unfortunately all of the proposed solutions involve using pip to install older versions of requests or another library to work around the issue
14:55 < asimon> The only problem is that I can't use pip because of the error in the first place. Am I missing something here?
14:55 < tsarbomba> well "upgrade to a newer version of python" seems like a possibility
14:55 <+ktechmidas> I set up a wonderful system, integrated with LDAP across the board with email, secure cloud-storage, git, a build system, chat, AWS etc for a startup... deployed it, no-one is f#cking using it and still sending docs over slack that are versions out of date instead of using their LDAP and logging into the storage system
14:55 <+ktechmidas> ffs
14:56 < asimon> It would be except I'm using some software that mandates 32bit python 2.7.6 and throws a fit if its any other version
14:56 < tsarbomba> devs don't care about your silly little time-saving innovations
14:56 <+ktechmidas> I just got asked why I can't do something about redundancy in files
14:56 <+ktechmidas> I'm like "I have!"
14:56 < tsarbomba> they have a workflow and that workflow is immutable
14:56 <+ktechmidas> "Use this shiny thing"
14:56 < tsarbomba> you must fit yr solutions in within the confines of that workflow
14:56 < tsarbomba> nothing at all can change in the end user experience
14:56 <+ktechmidas> tsarbomba, these aren't devs believe it or not
14:56 < tsarbomba> whaaaa?
14:56 <+ktechmidas> I'm the closest to a dev in the whole thing right now
14:57 < tsarbomba> then fuck 'em. they get what you give 'em.
14:57 < tsarbomba> next step: chromebooks around the horn
14:57 <+ktechmidas> these are analysts, my manager, the big boss in the US
14:57 <+ktechmidas> driving me up the wall
14:57 <+ktechmidas> why everyone can't see the benefits and advantages... I set it up, because you told me you wanted things easy and I showed you how
14:57 <+ktechmidas> they used it for a day and went back to old habits
14:58 <+ktechmidas> in the meantime paying for the server space for everything to sit on
14:59 <+ktechmidas> the joys of working in a startup I suppose
14:59 < Bru-> mornin
15:00 <+ktechmidas> doesn't help that we're spread all over the world... but I thought that's where the systems I built would help matters
15:00 <+giant_it_burrit> anyone got a mimecast like service they recommend?
15:00 < Bru-> memecast
15:01 <@JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: https://www.titusmime.com/gallery?lightbox=dataItem-ipbifaqr1
15:01 <+MillerBOSS> Mimecast, yuck
15:02 < Sousapro> giant_it_burrit: office 365 compliance?
15:02 < Sousapro> Granting full access on a mailbox?
15:03 < Sousapro> Get e3 licensing and be done with it
15:06 <+giant_it_burrit> Sousapro: more for testing and detonating links
15:06 <+giant_it_burrit> Sousapro: no office 365 here
15:08 < Nightcinder> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/5W9BB0O2/image.png
15:08 < Nightcinder> never change, linkedin
15:09 <+MillerBOSS> Calling G Suite admins has anyone seen a promo like https://millerboss.com/x/screen_shot_2017-05-15_at_23.24.34-Gj.png lately?
15:10 <+MillerBOSS> I should have pulled the trigger back then :(
15:14 < Nightcinder> is this gmail update supposed to be live to everyone?
15:15 < tsarbomba> millerboss did you finish your lego brick model of rush limbaugh's house yet
15:15 <+MillerBOSS> Rolls out as usual Nightcinder G Suite I think it needs to be enabled but I have not seen conclusive facts on a Google website.
15:15 < Nightcinder> ah
15:15 < Nightcinder> i don't see it yet
15:15 < Nightcinder> never used gsuite either
15:17 <+MillerBOSS> Not yet tsarbomba
15:25 <+MillerBOSS> How about you help, tsarbomba
15:27 <+giant_it_burrit> MillerBOSS: i have
15:27 < Bru-> company finally wants to look at VariDesk instead of humanscale bullshit
15:27 <+MillerBOSS> You have what giant_it_burrit ?
15:28 <+giant_it_burrit> seen that slide
15:29 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah its old. Have you seen a promo like that lately that is still valid?
15:31 < tsarbomba> millerboss all my lego bricks are tied up in my brand new liberty mosque
15:31 <+MillerBOSS> With Mark Levin in the middle?
15:31 < tsarbomba> glen greenwald
15:31 <+MillerBOSS> lol
15:31 <+MillerBOSS> You're good tsarbomba :P
15:31 < tsarbomba> :D
15:31 <+MillerBOSS> I really laughed out loud there
15:32 <+MillerBOSS> Oh wait..
15:32 < tsarbomba> drained cup #1 of coffee. still can't be bothered to do work.
15:32 < tsarbomba> time for coffee #2
15:33 <+MillerBOSS> glenn greenwald I was thinking Glenn Beck there
15:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> I really wish I had the time to sitdown and write a powershell script complete with GUI, so i can navigate that instead of Office 365 admin portal
15:34 < tsarbomba> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Da6a_V9UQAAy4uR.jpg "i said VENTE motherfucker!"
15:34 <+MillerBOSS> Why are people dumb?
15:34 < SynMonger> https://imgur.com/gallery/exQPF
15:35 < tsarbomba> only enough brains to go around
15:35  * MillerBOSS looks at giant_it_burrit regarding question above 
15:35 <+giant_it_burrit> MillerBOSS: not in a few months no
15:36 <+MillerBOSS> OK. :P
15:37 < tsarbomba> has anybody tried upgrading the wine-based teamviewer 12 to the 'native' tv13 under debian/ubuntu?
15:39 <+MillerBOSS> I bet you will, tsarbomba
15:40 < SynMonger> hide yo kids, hide yo wife, hide yo routers https://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/alerts/TA18-106A
15:42 < tsarbomba> who the fuck opens any of those services to the wan
15:42 <+MillerBOSS> People that don't have a clue
15:42 < tsarbomba> furthermore: this doesn't seem like a very specific vuln alert. this is more of a "don't forget yr best practices" whitepaper
15:42 < SynMonger> you'd be surprised
15:42 <+MillerBOSS> Also UPNP
15:44 < SynMonger> tsarbomba: sounds like something a russian state-sponsored cyber actor would say
15:44 < tsarbomba> in soviety russia, snmp monitor you!
15:44 <@JollyRgrs> the same people who are forced to open up VoIP to WAN because CxO wants to use phone from home, doesn't want to use VPN
15:44 < tsarbomba> -y
15:44 < tsarbomba> jollyrgrs ouch
15:45 < tsarbomba> at the very least use an offsite pbx
15:45 <@JollyRgrs> tsarbomba: i've heard the stories on here
15:45 < tsarbomba> something that can get blown the fuck up without ruining the business
15:45 <@JollyRgrs> racked up $1000s on phone bill to overseas
15:45 < tsarbomba> so what you're saying is our sip phones shouldn't all be using a secret of "1234"
15:46 <+MillerBOSS> Correct. It should be 0123.
15:48 < Hatter> oh hey guys
15:49 < felda> ooof when you hear somebody say something 100% shit and try to justify it with "I'm just speaking the truth"
15:50 < SynMonger> opinion=troof
15:50 < Hatter> felda: now that I know what I feel must be right, I'm here to show everybody the light
15:56 < DomLS3> all your base are belong to be
15:57 <+MillerBOSS> Be who?
15:57 <@Code_Man65> To be
15:58 <+MillerBOSS> Or not to be
15:58 <+MillerBOSS> Google Cloud Support chat and they have an android icon, weird https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-04-25-08-58-26-qH.png
15:59 <+MillerBOSS> AinseyJobLess 👉 Get a job you bum http://smurfs.wikia.com/wiki/File:The_Street_Bum.jpg
16:02 < JFDkthx> yeah. weird
16:02 < JFDkthx> felda: $100%
16:03 < felda> lol ur ugly I'm just sayin'
16:03 < felda> uhhhh u wot m8?
16:03 < JFDkthx> felda: ant eater ass mouth
16:03 < felda> why yes I do eat ass
16:04 < meowschwitz> in soviet russia ass eats you
16:04 < JFDkthx> .yt old grey mule
16:04 <+layer-eight> YouTube Gordon Terry   Johnson's Old Gray Mule - https://youtu.be/XD7Z0jJlRIE
16:05 < tsarbomba> felda likes the fleshy part of the ass with an appletini
16:05 < felda> I do enjoy the pleasures of the flesh
16:06 < felda> holding hands really gets me going
16:07 < abakedapplepie> !lenny
16:07 < DomLS3> oh
16:07 < DomLS3> err
16:07 < DomLS3> me
16:10 <+MillerBOSS> Nightcinder 👉 I think you asked about this https://gsuiteupdates.googleblog.com/2018/04/new-gmail-eap.html
16:11 < Nightcinder> i don't gsuite
16:11 <+MillerBOSS> K dot
16:14 < DomLS3> MillerBOSS
16:14 <+MillerBOSS> DomLS3
16:14 < DomLS3> dickbutt
16:14 <+MillerBOSS> Yourface
16:14 < DomLS3> cheerio
16:15 < meowschwitz> 9/11
16:16 < JFDkthx> s/9/bush did 9
16:16 <+layer-eight> meowschwitz meant: "bush did 9/11"
16:16 < meowschwitz> s/bush/arabs/
16:16 <+layer-eight> meowschwitz meant: "arabs did 9/11"
16:16 <+MillerBOSS> Oh ffs
16:17 < arlion> s/arabs/9\/11/
16:17 <+layer-eight> meowschwitz meant: "9\ did 9/11"
16:18 < meowschwitz> bhahahaha
16:18 < meowschwitz> pcre fail
16:18 < abakedapplepie> layer-eight fail
16:19 < DomLS3> abakedapplepie: no , that was user error
16:20 <+MillerBOSS> Dp you want to make it better? Feel free https://gist.github.com/MillerBoss/53fe7807a2f74154b06b81e6a2176a03
16:20 < JFDkthx> if i carve time out to fucking help you build software, and you accept the meeting
16:20 < JFDkthx> you better fucking be there
16:20 < DomLS3> JFDkthx: cry moar
16:20 <+MillerBOSS> Fix this https://gist.github.com/MillerBoss/eb26a9e3cf7062a066fbbfdbf61d7c76 too while you are at it
16:21 < JFDkthx> DomLS3: i will
16:21 < DomLS3> MillerBOSS: Does the youtube thing return only the first result it finds on youtube?
16:21 < JFDkthx> DomLS3: stick around and you'll get the chance to read it
16:21 < JohnnyO> .
16:21 < JohnnyO> Do you recommend enabling windows firewall on production servers?
16:21 <+MillerBOSS> As far as I know yes but the issue is the output DomLS3
16:21 <+MillerBOSS> .yt friday
16:21 <+layer-eight> YouTube Rebecca Black - Friday - https://youtu.be/kfVsfOSbJY0
16:22 <+MillerBOSS> More like here
16:22 <+MillerBOSS> https://youtu.be/kfVsfOSbJY0
16:22 <+layer-eight> YouTube Rebecca Black - Friday by 2011-09-17T03:25:54.000Z (duration: 3:48) on Sat Sep 17 10:25:54 UTC 2011, 2011-09-17T03:25:54.000Z views
16:22 < F34RInc> wheres the 10 hour version
16:22 <+MillerBOSS> Its up your asshole felda
16:22 < abakedapplepie> JohnnyO: uhh yes
16:22 <+MillerBOSS> JohnnyO 👉 yes
16:22 < asimon> Wait is it friday
16:22 < asimon> fuck yeah
16:22 < felda> I un-ironically enjoy that song
16:22 <+MillerBOSS> YEs!!!2111112121
16:23 < JFDkthx> estranger: GARBAGE DAY
16:23 < estranger> Bang!
16:24 < estranger> I'm not home to take it out either
16:25 < DomLS3> MillerBOSS: it's your variables
16:25 < tsarbomba> today is monday. friday was cancelled.
16:25 <+MillerBOSS> Well fix it DomLS3. I'll send you a dollar
16:25 < JFDkthx> tsarbomba: pushed back to next week
16:25 < felda> aww yis
16:26 < felda> I'm going to see inifinity war tomorrow
16:26 < DomLS3> MillerBOSS: well for starters, $views doesn't even exist
16:26 < DomLS3> even though you're trying to return it in the privmsg
16:26 < felda> and friday I'll spoil it but only for JFDkthx
16:26 <+MillerBOSS> I don't know I didn't make the script. :P
16:26 <@hater1> morning
16:26 < felda> and hater1
16:26 < DomLS3> MillerBOSS: oh so you ripped it
16:26 < DomLS3> you're a ripper
16:26 < DomLS3> ripper alert
16:26 < JFDkthx> rood felda
16:26 <+MillerBOSS> Ripped?
16:26 < DomLS3> MillerBOSS the ripper
16:26 < tsarbomba> johnnyo you should already know exactly what services need to be allowed access from which IPs, so there's no reason not to
16:27 < tsarbomba> cryptic1 has escaped from his maple syrup cocoon!
16:27 <+MillerBOSS> I am not selling it fool.
16:27 < DomLS3> MillerBOSS: lies
16:27  * MillerBOSS rolls eyes
16:27 < DomLS3> I saw it on craigslist for tree fiddy
16:27 <+MillerBOSS> Well you should have bought it then
16:28 <@cryptic1> sidewalks are no longer safe for walking
16:28 <@cryptic1> have to drive on them now
16:28 <+MillerBOSS> [14:22:01] m00nie::youtube::getinfo IDS are {snippet {publishedAt 2011-09-17T03:25:54.000Z title {Rebecca Black - Friday} channelTitle rebecca} contentDetails {duration PT3M48S} statistics {viewCount 119926857}}
16:28 < DomLS3> -v is no longer safe for DomLS3. have to chanserv +v now
16:29 <+MillerBOSS> That is at https://gist.github.com/MillerBoss/eb26a9e3cf7062a066fbbfdbf61d7c76#file-m00nie-youtube-1-8-tcl-L71
16:29 < felda> oh shit my office bought a box of beef jerky for the break room
16:30 < DomLS3> beef jerky is almost as garbage as pfsense
16:30 < felda> DomLS3 is communist confirmed no doubt
16:31 < DomLS3> s/communist/genius
16:31 <+layer-eight> felda meant: "DomLS3 is genius confirmed no doubt"
16:31 < felda> only dummies call themselves genius
16:31 <@JollyRgrs> yeah, genius
16:31 < DomLS3> s/ th.*/pfsense genius
16:31 <+layer-eight> felda meant: "only dummies callpfsense genius"
16:32 < felda> there's that layer-eight crutch
16:41 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfVsfOSbJY0
16:41 <+layer-eight> YouTube ┃ Title ↠ Rebecca Black - Friday ┃ Duration ↠ 3:48 ┃ Upload Date ↠ Sat Sep 17 10:25:54 UTC 2011
16:41 <+MillerBOSS> All fixed
16:41 <+MillerBOSS> My job is done for the day
16:47 < tsarbomba> ayyyyy
16:48 < tsarbomba> millerboss did the needful
16:48 < tsarbomba> \o/
16:48 <+MillerBOSS> Nah. I pushed buttons.
16:49 < scwizard> ok this is really awkward
16:49 <+MillerBOSS> I'd rather have something like this though
16:49 <+MillerBOSS> YouTube Rebecca Black - Friday HD / Views: 119.715.507 / Likes: 801.524 / Dislikes: 3.131.853 / Comments: 823.367 / Duration: 3m 48s / Published at: 2011-09-17 03:25:54
16:49 < scwizard> this dev came in and I'm like "uhh, didn't expect to see you, I heard you broke a rib"
16:49 < scwizard> and he's like "yeah it's still broken"
16:49 < scwizard> WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU AT WORK THEN?
16:50 < Ottomite> Good morning vietnam !
16:50 < JFDkthx> scwizard: well it's not going to heal over night
16:50 <+MillerBOSS> s/oo/oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo'
16:50 <+layer-eight> Ottomite meant: "Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo'd morning vietnam !"
16:50 < JFDkthx> just dont try to tickle fight him
16:50 < abakedapplepie> comcast gig install today
16:50 < Ottomite> damn, nothing gets past you guys
16:51 < abakedapplepie> wee
16:51 < scwizard> why not just like rest?
16:51 < JFDkthx> sick days?
16:51 < JFDkthx> how many do you have there
16:51 < scwizard> i mean i guess playing video games is physically the same thing as coding
16:51 < Ottomite> abakedapplepie: step up to my level. ATT fiber Gig install sometime next month !
16:51 < ihre> so, $newcomp want to apply some changes to the vpn setup, one of which will force all traffic over the vpn during an active connection, while it makes sense since the end user connects from a work-provided device, previous job routed 'the appropriate' traffic over vpn, not everything.. is that worth complaining about or should i just shut the fuck up ? :p
16:51 < abakedapplepie> Ottomite: i just finished my ATT fiber cutover
16:51 < scwizard> idk their policy but still
16:51 < abakedapplepie> but we just have 100/100 on that circuit
16:51 < abakedapplepie> pleb status
16:51 < JFDkthx> Ottomite: i get 1000/100 fo freeeeee
16:51 < Ottomite> oh im getting 1000/1000 for my house :P
16:52 < scwizard> bleh it just bugs me
16:52 < kuahara> Something for this may not exist yet, but does anyone here know of a browser addon or anything that can convert tif to pdf on the fly (when the user procs any browser related event that "opens" the tif)?
16:52 < scwizard> it's awkward being around him
16:52 < Ottomite> cant disagree with free lol
16:52 < abakedapplepie> oh, jeez
16:52 < felda> JFDkthx manually traffic shapes his network using 5 gallon buckets
16:52 < JFDkthx> broken ribs arent contagious dont worry scwizard
16:52 < scwizard> i know :|
16:52 < abakedapplepie> i can get gig through my isp but they require equipment rental
16:52 < JFDkthx> felda: 10 gallon hats actually
16:52 < abakedapplepie> which makes sense since theres only like 4 commercially viable gigabit cable modems
16:53 < kuahara> might be the one time I actually approve of an equipment rental fee being collected.
16:53 < Ottomite> Att is giving me gig internet for 20 bucks more then what im spending right now. with no data caps.
16:54 < Ottomite> I need to build a bigger nas
16:54 < kuahara> Ottomite read the small print there rather carefully.
16:54 < tsarbomba> s/5 gallon buckets/the 3 seashells
16:54 <+layer-eight> felda meant: "JFDkthx manually traffic shapes his network using the 3 seashells"
16:54 < catbeard> ^
16:54 < kuahara> With the cheap gigabit service they offer, you're basically agreeing to let them spy on you as much as they want and however they want.  I realize that's probably not a huge issue for most people here, but a little screwed up.
16:55 < Ottomite> kuahara: noted
16:55 < catbeard> Hey guys he doesn't know how to use the 3 seashells
16:55 < kuahara> You can opt out of that, but they tack on another $100+ per month I think.
16:55 < tsarbomba> s/on you/on any data you choose not to send through vpn
16:55 <+layer-eight> kuahara meant: "With the cheap gigabit service they offer, you're basically agreeing to let them spy on any data you choose not to send through vpn as much as they want and however they want.  I realize that's probably not a huge issue for most people here, but a little screwed up."
16:55 < kuahara> tsarbomba, through any bottlenecks you impose upon yourself
16:56 <+MillerBOSS> That VPN better not have a data cap then
16:56 < tsarbomba> it's gigabit. what bottleneck?
16:56 < kuahara> ..
16:56 < Ottomite> Private internet access FTW
16:56 < catbeard> Kinda your fault for not securing end to end for everything
16:56 < tsarbomba> ^
16:56 <+MillerBOSS> The VPN service
16:56 < catbeard> Ottomite mullvad
16:56 < kuahara> MillerBOSS exactly
16:57 < kuahara> people think VPN is some magic thing they turn on that has no performance cost
16:57 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/ well I guess $10 gets you 2TBs worth a month
16:57 < JFDkthx> kuahara: but all of these vpns are supposed to help my gaming
16:57 < Ottomite> VPN isnt magic?!
16:58 < Hatter>  Are there any fun video games to play lately?
16:58  * Ottomite throws his USG out the window 
16:58 < JFDkthx> Hatter: have you ever played fortnite
16:58 < tsarbomba> kuahara is going to now sprain his own fucking shoulder clapping himself on the back because he thinks he's the only one who knows vpns have overhead
16:58 < Ottomite> YOU PROMISED ME YOU WHERE MAGIC
16:58 < tsarbomba> autism speaks. it just refuses to shut the fuck up.
16:59 < scwizard> yeah
16:59 < kuahara> JFDkthx yea, I sold that for affiliate commissions too.
16:59 < scwizard> although these days when I run into ppl that are acting autistic
16:59 < tsarbomba> millerboss how much data does your seedbox let you pump through it per month
16:59 < scwizard> I usually tell them loudly and at length that they're annoying everyone and here's why
16:59 <+MillerBOSS> 5TB I think
17:00 < scwizard> that usually actually gets them to shut up
17:00 < scwizard> I do it out of love though, I understand that many people are too socially awkward to realize that they're being annoying, and can't read subtlety well
17:01 < JFDkthx> rip
17:01 < JFDkthx> F
17:01 <+MillerBOSS> Good bye
17:01 < Moose007> wheeeee
17:01 < JFDkthx> good riddance  felda (~felda@donger/pfsense) has quit (*.net *.split)
17:01 < Hatter> such a nice netsplit and I get stuck on the side with JFDkthx
17:01 < Hatter> oh
17:01 < JFDkthx> wb
17:01 < kuahara> As a social autist, I appreciate the love.  Sometimes, as a side effect, such love highlights a breakdown in communication where one party is wrong about something and doesn't even realize it until they tried to make the other party look stupid.
17:02 < JFDkthx> Hatter: is that a yes or no for fortnite?
17:02 < Hatter> well of course I've played it
17:02 < Hatter> it's a bit dull now though
17:02 <+MillerBOSS> tsarbomba 👉 https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-04-25-10-01-44-Tp.png 5TB
17:02 < JFDkthx> its  a pretty fun game
17:02 < Hatter> yeah whatever JFDkthx I told you about it
17:02 < JFDkthx> i hear it's really popular
17:02 < Hatter> you're probably not even good at video games
17:03 < JFDkthx> says the guy always asking for recommendations
17:03 < scwizard> kuahara: thx <3 it usually ends up making me look like an asshole but I don't really care anymore
17:03 < Popzi> PUBG is a really good and esports ready game
17:03 < ravioli> Seeing some weird behavior on some of our windows 10 boxes - a user will have a word doc open in the background in office, and it behaves as if it's the active application sometimes. confuses the hell out of users. the mouse acts as if it's interacting with word but word isn't what's in front of them. Anyone else seen this?
17:03 < corn266> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlmECL2ED2I
17:03 <+layer-eight> YouTube ┃ Title ↠ Hi Everybody. Hi Dr. Nick ┃ Duration ↠ 6s ┃ Upload Date ↠ Tue Feb 14 10:10:21 UTC 2012
17:04 < JFDkthx> E S P O R T S R E A D Y
17:04 < scwizard> but yeah reading up on it like
17:04 < Hatter> that's what they said about planetside 2
17:04 < JFDkthx> ravioli: u got macros?
17:04 < scwizard> broken ribs take a long while to heal
17:04 < Hatter> if that were true I'd be more of a global phenom
17:04 < meowschwitz> Hatter: omg bahahahaha
17:04 < meowschwitz> planetside 2
17:04 < scwizard> I'd still have taken the week off though
17:04 < meowschwitz> jesus christ i remember that
17:04 < Popzi> I too enjoy the realism of getting shotgunned across the map as my car bursts into flames from standing still on ultra potato-looking graphics at slideshow fps
17:04 < Hatter> what's so funny
17:05 < kuahara> ravioli Some of our applications open legal documents in Word and on many machines, Word opens in the background, but doesn't usually have the focus as you described.  That said, the solution (which only works about 50% of the time) is probably the top google result if you look up  "foregroundlocktimeout"
17:05 <+MillerBOSS> Only if #reddit-sysadmin didn't disable colors and bold and all https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-04-25-10-04-29-ou.png
17:05 < meowschwitz> Hatter: to actually get a bunch of people to play as a squad took effort
17:05 < ravioli> kuahara: thanks!
17:05 < SpookyCrisp> ravioli, I haven't seen that. What version of Word is it?
17:05 < kuahara> You'll need to make the regedit and reboot.  Again, it may not work.  It works about 50% for us.
17:05 < meowschwitz> to make a full platoon and organize a CAG and transportation you basically need to be stalin
17:05 < Hatter> MillerBOSS: I've been trying to press for a color day every week since I arrived here
17:05 < ravioli> SpookyCrisp: i'll have to check next time i'm over at someone's machine
17:06 <+MillerBOSS> Good luck. Not even the mods can make that happen Hatter
17:06 < ravioli> i don't do much management of those boxes anymore.
17:06 < meowschwitz> Hatter: we had a fat chick in our squad
17:06 < meowschwitz> s/squad/clan/
17:06 <+layer-eight> meowschwitz meant: "Hatter: we had a fat chick in our clan"
17:06 < meowschwitz> the joke was
17:06 < Hatter> meowschwitz: you can also inspire the people with greateness, and they will follow
17:06 < meowschwitz> "galaxy for squad a, galaxy for squad b and galaxy for $chickname"
17:06 < meowschwitz> Hatter: uh huh
17:06 < Hatter> that sounds inapproriate and hurtful
17:06 < meowschwitz> yes
17:06 < meowschwitz> it was
17:06 < ravioli> what's up with freenode today
17:06 < Popzi> its dancing
17:07 < meowschwitz> ravioli: a fat chick stepped on the routing table
17:07 <@ravioli> your mother is a nice lady
17:07 < JFDkthx> s/fat/i
17:07 <+layer-eight> meowschwitz meant: "ravioli: a i chick stepped on the routing table"
17:07 < JFDkthx> o
17:07 < Popzi> fucking bam
17:07 <@JollyRgrs> pwnt
17:07 < Popzi> youve just been slapped in the face with a mom joke
17:07 < meowschwitz> this is a prime example of why regular expressions make everything worse
17:08 < JFDkthx> meowschwitz: but it's so useful
17:08 < JFDkthx> just not in my hands
17:09 < felda> WHAT IN THE DONGER?  -SaslServ- Last failed attempt from: Literally!NotLiteral@wow.such.literals.nowak-at.net on Apr 25 15:03:24 2018.
17:10 < felda> also did you see they caught the East Area Rapist?
17:10 < meowschwitz> there was just one?
17:10 < felda> https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/8es4cx/east_area_rapistoriginal_night_stalker_officially/
17:11 < Bru-> man
17:12 < Bru-> toughbooks dont sell for shit on ebay
17:12 < Bru-> ive got about 100 cf-c2a
17:12 < JFDkthx> Bru-: there you go again, floggin your wares
17:12 < Bru-> aye
17:12 < Bru-> GET YA TOUGHBOOKS HYEA
17:12 < Bru-> im the local used computer barker
17:14 < SpookyCrisp> ヽ( ͡° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °)ﾉ I BELIEVE I CAN DONGヽ( ͡° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °)ﾉ
17:14 < Bru-> sexi
17:14 < SpookyCrisp> I really would like to get a Hp microserver G8 for my lab.
17:14 < JFDkthx> do it
17:14 < SpookyCrisp> I don't have a lot of physical space.
17:15 < JFDkthx> stuff it in a closet.
17:15 < SpookyCrisp> JFDkthx, I can't find one without drives, CPU, or memory.
17:15 < SpookyCrisp> JFDkthx, I'll stuff you in a closet.
17:15 < JFDkthx> im already in there
17:15 < JFDkthx> cant get out
17:15 < SpookyCrisp> JFDkthx, Your parents wouldn't love you?
17:16 < JFDkthx> gotta be there in the first place
17:16 < JFDkthx> ayyy
17:16 < SpookyCrisp> Lol
17:23 < cdal> hello people. is there a way to programmatically detect email bounces? like a certain header or something.
17:23 < cdal> *certain header sent back in the undeliverable notice.
17:26 <+MillerBOSS> Depends on mail service etc
17:26 <+MillerBOSS> cdal 👉 ^
17:27 < int0x1C8> https://science.slashdot.org/story/18/04/25/0422235/scientists-discover-that-uranus-smells-like-rotten-eggs
17:27 < int0x1C8> I'm so happy I installed the cloud to butt chrome extension
17:27 <+MillerBOSS> Slow news day at slashdot
17:28 < int0x1C8> Specifically, my butts in Uranus' upper atmosphere consist of hydrogen sulfide
17:28 <@JollyRgrs> int0x1C8: hey, it doesn't always smell that way, just when i fart a lot
17:28 < int0x1C8> "If an unfortunate human were ever to descend through Uranus' butts, they would be met with very unpleasant and odiferous conditions,"
17:29 <+MillerBOSS> What a joke https://www.techmeme.com/180425/p10#a180425p10 Federal appeals court upholds a 15-month prison sentence for e-waste recycler Eric Lundgren for making Windows restore disks
17:29 < felda> JollyRgrs loves the smell of rotten eggs
17:29 <@JollyRgrs> only b/c it reminds me of your mom
17:31 < Nightcinder> https://www.anandtech.com/show/12678/a-timely-discovery-examining-amd-2nd-gen-ryzen-results
17:31 < Nightcinder> hm
17:35 < SpookyCrisp> JollyRgrs, rekt
17:38 < tsarbomba> i hope you all cracked open a tall cold one yesterday to celebrate meek mill's impending freedom
17:39 < JFDkthx> Nightcinder: i had to disable hpet on my 1950x
17:39 < Nightcinder> i have a 1700
17:39 < Nightcinder> never looked at any options like that
17:40 < JFDkthx> it was a pretty big difference for me in dota 2, and escape from tarkov.
17:41 <+MillerBOSS> tsarbomba 👉 What have you made today?
17:43 < Casteil> well that meeting with the company owner and my boss went better than I was sort of fearing
17:44 < vinrock> im being told that cooking steak sous vide will make me pooop my pants
17:44 < vinrock> anyone tried this?
17:44 < Casteil> poop your pants because of foodborne illness or poop your pants out of glory?
17:44 < vinrock> oh mybad i meant the cooking a steak sous vide part
17:44 < vinrock> pretty sure we've all pooped our pants at some point in life
17:44 < abakedapplepie> i forgot about meek
17:45 < abakedapplepie> did they release him yet
17:45 < AnimalFarmPig> Meek? Is that the BART sysadmin guy?
17:45 <+MillerBOSS> Sounds like a slow cook in a cooker
17:45 < abakedapplepie> vinrock: i have
17:46 < abakedapplepie> i didnt shit my pants
17:46 < vinrock> so it was meh?
17:46 < abakedapplepie> oh no it was great
17:46 < abakedapplepie> i thought you meant food poisoning
17:46 < vinrock> oh no i meant in joy
17:46 < abakedapplepie> yes you will poop your pants in joy
17:46 < abakedapplepie> if thats your thing
17:46 < vinrock> buddy has a green egg and hes telling me he stopped cooking steaks in it becaue he does the sous vide now
17:46 < abakedapplepie> but sous vide is only half of the story
17:47 < abakedapplepie> you need a proper sear
17:47 < abakedapplepie> cast iron is ideal
17:47 < abakedapplepie> screaming hot
17:47 < vinrock> yeah after you boild it right
17:47 < abakedapplepie> yes
17:47 < vinrock> im gona try this for dinner
17:47 < abakedapplepie> screaming fucking hot
17:47 < abakedapplepie> take it right up to the smoke point
17:47 < vinrock> thats what he said too
17:47 < vinrock> (11:45:21 AM) Kallaystra/Work: and use avocado oil or something else with a ridiculously high smoke point
17:47 < abakedapplepie> you WILL have a smoky kitchen
17:47 < abakedapplepie> turn off your smoke alarms
17:47 < abakedapplepie> open a door
17:48 < abakedapplepie> enjoy the burning flesh
17:48 < abakedapplepie> i dont use oil
17:48 < abakedapplepie> just a properly seasoned cast iron skillet
17:49 < vinrock> i dont have one so im gona have to deal with what i got
17:49 < abakedapplepie> oh
17:49 < abakedapplepie> true
17:49 < abakedapplepie> you should consider getting one
17:49 < vinrock> yeah ive been meaning to
17:49 < abakedapplepie> the thermal capacity for cast iron is huge
17:49 < vinrock> been slacking on cooking in general
17:49 < abakedapplepie> makes  big difference on searing a steak
17:49 < abakedapplepie> if you dont use cast iron, let the pan get hot again after flipping
17:50 < abakedapplepie> otherwise youll just be cooking the steak
17:50 < vinrock> word
17:50 < vinrock> thats a good point
17:50 < tsarbomba> fucking amazon
17:50 < vinrock> ikr
17:50 < Reverend> I have a cast iron plate... it's fucking amazing.
17:50 < abakedapplepie> plate?
17:50 < tsarbomba> "guaranteed 2 day shipping" "expected delivery by may 2"
17:50 < abakedapplepie> like, for eating off of? lol
17:50 < tsarbomba> motherfucker that's not how math works
17:50 < Casteil> I've cooked a steak with nothing more than a frying pan before, turned out pretty good
17:51 < abakedapplepie> Casteil ive cooked a steak on a stick over a campfire before, turned out fantastic
17:51 < Casteil> sear at high heat then kept it on lower until cooked about medium
17:51 < abakedapplepie> steak is steak, the method is like last 10% of goodness
17:51 < vinrock> you can do that, buddy was just telling me that a ny strip done sous vide is amazeballs so i gotta try it now
17:51 < Reverend> abakedapplepie don't drop it on your cat
17:51 < vinrock> he's a bigol' neckbeard so he knows his beef
17:51 <+DrGibby|> abakedapplepie+++++++++
17:51 < Casteil> abakedapplepie: uh, badly cooked steak is worse than no steak
17:51 < tsarbomba> i thought neckbeards tended towards vegetarianism
17:51 < Reverend> vinrock - you got yourself a water bath?
17:51 < abakedapplepie> Casteil: well sure
17:51 < vinrock> no not that kinda newage faggy neckbeard
17:51 < tsarbomba> well, either that or a 24/7 taco bell diet
17:52 < vinrock> the traditional neckbeard
17:52 < felda> lmao someone's trying to get on porn right now
17:52 < tsarbomba> right
17:52 < abakedapplepie> im assuming regardless of the cooking method, we can all not ruin a steak
17:52 < abakedapplepie> :P
17:52 < Casteil> aaaaanyway, one of the best steaks I've had in my life was smoked for about an hour and then seared on a grill
17:52 < tsarbomba> not ruining a steak = not cooking it until it's shoe leather
17:52 < felda> they are going down the list of the porn websites they know and watching them all get blocked
17:52 < vinrock> reverend i was just gonna swing by weedman's house so i can vacuum seal a seasoned steak then toss it in the big cooking pot
17:52 < Casteil> best friend did that and the second attempt at doing it was a bit a flop :(
17:52 < abakedapplepie> vinrock: you dont need to vac seal
17:52 < abakedapplepie> water displacement
17:52 < vinrock> he told me to vac seal it
17:52 < abakedapplepie> i just use a zip loc
17:52 < vinrock> ah
17:52 < abakedapplepie> dip it in water, then burp the air out
17:52 < vinrock> well thats good
17:52 < tsarbomba> cooking a steak is child's play. cooking brisket correctly? that's a fucking art.
17:53 < abakedapplepie> but, vacuum sealing can get a better interface for heat transfer
17:53 < Casteil> I don't eat brisket often because it's outrageously expensive
17:53 < abakedapplepie> so if you can you should
17:53 < abakedapplepie> just know its not required
17:53 < abakedapplepie> :)
17:53 < vinrock> i miss working down south where you could get brisket anywhere
17:53 < abakedapplepie> i have 2 bbq places within a mile that are pretty deece
17:53 < abakedapplepie> only one has good brisket tho
17:54 < vinrock> "damn im out of gas... well at least i can grab some brisket while i fuel up"
17:54 < abakedapplepie> the other is better for ribs
17:54 < Nightcinder> https://imgur.com/gallery/ox5vI huh
17:54 < vinrock> pulled pork is my weakness
17:54 < abakedapplepie> they also do a brisket chowder
17:54 < abakedapplepie> which is... amazing
17:54 < abakedapplepie> fucking godly
17:55 < abakedapplepie> potatos, sour cream, chives, brisket, cheddar in a chowder
17:55 < Nightcinder> i just got the new gmail
17:55 < Nightcinder> idk how i feel about this
17:55  * L3gacy runs to work to tase people
17:55 < estranger> I feel hungry
17:55 < abakedapplepie> Nightcinder: huh...
17:56 < Nightcinder> lol
17:56 < Nightcinder> my link?
17:56 < alazare619> his name was robert paulson
17:56 < abakedapplepie> no
17:56 < abakedapplepie> new gmail
17:56 < Nightcinder> o
17:56 < abakedapplepie> i just checked it out
17:56 < Nightcinder> it's..weird
17:56 < meowschwitz> i need to feed
17:56 < meowschwitz> what do i eat
17:57 < vinrock> meow mix
17:58 < voidstar> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn1PvUz4zk4
17:58 <+layer-eight> YouTube ┃ Title ↠ Beggin Strips Dog Treats 2012 Commercial ┃ Duration ↠ 31s ┃ Upload Date ↠ Thu Aug 09 22:55:51 UTC 2012
17:58 < Nightcinder> In the six seconds they spend on a resume, recruiters focus on name, current title and company, current position start and end dates, previous title and company, previous position start and end dates, and education.
17:59 <@cryptic1> Back to work all of you
17:59 < tsarbomba> i just gained five pounds reading this: < abakedapplepie> potatos, sour cream, chives, brisket, cheddar in a chowder
17:59 < abakedapplepie> haha
17:59 < abakedapplepie> its soooo good
17:59 < scwizard> I can't figure out how to do have this sytemd service start after a mount
17:59 < abakedapplepie> im gonna go get some now actually
17:59 < abakedapplepie> brb with pictures
17:59 < scwizard> [Path] ConditionPathIsMountPoint=/vagrant/
17:59 < tsarbomba> nightcinder, there's a new gmail?
17:59 < scwizard> doesn't do it
17:59 < Nightcinder> tsarbomba:
17:59 < Nightcinder> yes
17:59 < abakedapplepie> tsap_: ya
17:59 < tsarbomba> i've been kicking around inbox.google.com for a while
18:00 < scwizard> after vagrant.mount doesn't do it
18:00 < Nightcinder> it's mobile-based
18:00 < abakedapplepie> log in, hit the gear icon, click new google
18:00 < tsarbomba> it's not fully baked but it is useful
18:00 < Nightcinder> it's inbox-like
18:00 < tsarbomba> yeah i suspect google is going to integrate the two
18:00 < abakedapplepie> what the fuck is that
18:00 < abakedapplepie> inbox.google.com
18:00 < abakedapplepie> what
18:00 < tsarbomba> if the machine learning works as well in "new gmail" as it does in inbox it could be viable
18:00 < abakedapplepie> what is this
18:00 <@ravioli> abakedapplepie: it's google inbox
18:00 <@ravioli> came out like two years ago
18:00 <@ravioli> and it's dank
18:00 < tsarbomba> it's basically a full investment into the gmail paradigm
18:01 < abakedapplepie> what is its purpose
18:01 < tsarbomba> it isp retty dank. missing some no-brainer features, though
18:01 < scwizard> bleh is restart on failure the only way
18:01 < abakedapplepie> im not sure i understand
18:01 < felda> my problem with inbox by google is the bloat and sluggishness
18:01 < tsarbomba> like for instance how you can mouse over an email address in gmail and there's a link right there to search all emails from that sender/recipient
18:01 < tsarbomba> you have to manually type in the search in inbox
18:01 <@ravioli> it's an email client that treats emails like your phone treats notifications, abakedapplepie. at least that's how i think of it.
18:01 < tsarbomba> turns out i used that feature a LOT in gmail
18:01 <@ravioli> works pretty well once you get used to it.
18:01 < tsarbomba> eactly ravioli
18:02 < tsarbomba> it actually makes the email/calendar goog integration work as it should have all along
18:02 < felda> oh wow we made this neat material design window OOPS it takes 5 minutes to open an email
18:02 <@ravioli> i don't use it for work but for my personal email it works great.
18:02 < tsarbomba> heh. yeah that's aproblem on low-resource computers
18:02 < tsarbomba> ravioli, in android i use the gmail app for non-gmail accounts and inbox for gmail accounts
18:02 < tsarbomba> that's alanis morrissette-level ironic
18:02 <@ravioli> like raaaaaaiiiinn
18:03 <@ravioli> "ironic" by alanis morisette is super meta ironic.
18:04 <@ravioli> it's a song called "ironic" talking about situations which aren't ironic
18:04 <@ravioli> is there anything more ironic than that?
18:04 < abakedapplepie> i always figured that was the point
18:04 < abakedapplepie> maybe i give her too much credit
18:04 < tsarbomba> signature placement in inbox is iffy too
18:05 < tsarbomba> but my gmail signature is a waste anyway so i just disabled it
18:07 < Casteil> hehe.. staring at a stack of fancy new Latitude 7480 laptops
18:07 < Casteil> I might appropriate one if one is an i7 with the nicer screen
18:08 < mal_will> I'm annoyed with the myetherwallet hackers. go the distance, cert the site you redirected to. Or maybe they wanted to get caught after 2 hours, idk
18:08 < voidstar> hard stuck
18:09 < mal_will> abakedapplepie: she stated those situations are ironic, I though
18:10 < mal_will> https://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2016/05/alanis-morissette-recognizes-its-not-ironic/481875/ ah nope, she admitted it I guess
18:10 <@ravioli> m e t a
18:11 < tsarbomba> alternate headline: "MY ENTIRE CAREER IS A LIE!, cries morissette"
18:11  * tsarbomba prepares the green slime
18:12 < mal_will> she and dave grohl could be siblings, I swear
18:17 <@JollyRgrs> mal_will: how do you mean that?
18:17 < mal_will> They look a lot a like. when I see her I see Dave Grohl in a wig
18:17 <@JollyRgrs> i've never paid that much attn to alanis to know
18:20 < hxcsp> mal_will: foo fighters drummer used to be drummer for alanis morissette.  its a conspiracy
18:21 < Nightcinder> dave grohl is the best
18:21 < hxcsp> i just saw them in concert last week
18:21 < hxcsp> good shit
18:21 <@ravioli> dae sound city
18:21 < Nightcinder> https://new4.fjcdn.com/comments/Well+he+looks+totaly+badass+look+away+from+the+wig+_f6f80852791db1479511c494a2a5160c.jpg
18:21 < mal_will> https://i.chzbgr.com/full/3661406720/hBE59CCB5/
18:22 <@ravioli> dat grohl + homme + reznor tho
18:22 <@JollyRgrs> how would it feel to be the drummer of a band who's founder was the drummer for nirvana? lol
18:22 < hxcsp> Taylor Hawkins is an amazing drummer though
18:22 <@JollyRgrs> mal_will: they have big mouths
18:22 < Nightcinder> probbaly feels like being the drummer for foo fighters
18:22 <@JollyRgrs> so add in steven tyler as well?
18:22 < dragonfleas> Morning boys
18:22 < dragonfleas> working remotely today
18:22 < mal_will> all the better for shoving fish into JollyRgrs
18:22 < dragonfleas> staying with my mom now, she just made me coffee
18:22 < estranger> I'm off this and next week, booyah
18:22 <+giant_it_burrit> wut
18:22 <+giant_it_burrit> she made me a sammich last night
18:22 < Nightcinder> are you calling dave grohl a pelican
18:23 < hxcsp> estranger: but still on irc
18:23 <+giant_it_burrit> HUHE
18:23 < estranger> hxcsp: waiting in the hospital :D
18:23 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas WFH so he can netflix and chill with his mom?
18:23 < Nightcinder> hxcsp: i am on irc when i'm off work
18:23 < hxcsp> im playing video games when im off work
18:23 < estranger> Wfh rules
18:24 < dragonfleas> JollyRgrs, excuse me sweaty but no
18:24 <+TuxedoJack> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4093105/windows-10-update-kb4093105
18:24 <+TuxedoJack> >Addresses an issue that causes modern applications to reappear after upgrading the OS version even though those applications have been deprovisioned using remove-AppXProvisionedPackages-Online.
18:24 <+TuxedoJack> HIGH FUCKING GODDAMN TIME
18:25 < mal_will> "Can I have this calculator app? it's harmless, I've been using it for years." Ringing endorsement Mr. accountant. You're the premier expert on malware, so the fact it's been operating under your careful consideration is all I need.
18:25 <+TuxedoJack> "You can have this calculator app. In RemoteApp. With no drive / network access."
18:26 < mal_will> lol
18:26 <+TuxedoJack> "And you can pay for the licensing."
18:26 < dragonfleas> dat netsplit
18:26 < mal_will> only if you use this rsa token to connect to this terminal in this closet first
18:26 < mal_will> enjoyyyy
18:26 < ThatOneRoadie> dragonfleas: less netsplit and more matrix shitting the bed
18:26 < ThatOneRoadie> again
18:26 < dragonfleas> oh i just realized the [m] tag
18:26 < mal_will> I am a benevolent god
18:27 < dragonfleas> so, trying deathwish coffee for the first time right now
18:27 < dragonfleas> it's VERY strong
18:27 < dragonfleas> i'm halfway through a cup and am shaking profusely
18:27 <+TuxedoJack> Try Death Wish coldbrew
18:27 <+TuxedoJack> It's even better
18:27 < m4221> s/cup/shakeweight
18:27 <+layer-eight> dragonfleas meant: "i'm halfway through a shakeweight and am shaking profusely"
18:27 < Hatter> did you know 17 people die each year from deathwise coffee
18:28 < Hatter> deathwish I mean
18:28 < felda> if TuxedoJack ruled the world we would only communicate using ink jet printers and bluetooth devices
18:28 < dragonfleas> m4221, that too
18:28 < mal_will> This binch. I install his calculator app, newest version "I wanted the older version actually, I didn't like this update." If you know what you want to intimately, why didn't you specify this soooonerrrr?
18:29 < madvillain> Hatter: I use to drink that
18:29 < Nightcinder> ..a calculator app??
18:29 < m4221> s/ink jet/impact
18:29 <+layer-eight> felda meant: "if TuxedoJack ruled the world we would only communicate using impact printers and bluetooth devices"
18:29 < Nightcinder> thermal
18:29 < madvillain> Hatter: They use to send it to us for free when I was in Afghan
18:29 < m4221> madvillain: terrorist!
18:30 < Hatter> m4221: that was inappropriate
18:30 < Hatter> madvillain: thank you for your service
18:30 < Hatter> unless m4221 was right..
18:30 < m4221> Hatter: stfu
18:30 < Hatter> how dare you
18:30 < derpingit> whadap dudes
18:30 < Hatter> I want this man removed
18:30 < Hatter> !report m4221 inappropriate remarks and rude behavior
18:30 < derpingit> i'd love it if someone helps me pick a NAS for personal cloud
18:30 < bmurt> what's up beautiful people?
18:30 < voidstar> #reddit-homelab
18:31 < m4221> derpingit: pick one idiot
18:31 < derpingit> didn't know that channel existed. cool
18:31 < derpingit> m4221 i pick you, pikachu!
18:31 < madvillain> derpingit: If you just want an "easy mode" NAS Synology is pretty good
18:32 < m4221> derpingit: seriously though, any low end model for testing is decenr
18:32 < bvierra> ZFS on linux?
18:32 < madvillain> derpingit: I use freeNAS because i love that ZFS
18:32 < bvierra> in a VPN on a solaris server?
18:32 < bvierra> running in a hyper-v hypervisor
18:32 < derpingit> not for testing. production. and pretty much decided on synology line.
18:32 < m4221> I refuse to use ReiserFS on principle
18:33 < derpingit> madvillain you pretty much sumarized what i want out of it. simple
18:35 < madvillain> derpingit: Yea I was tired of all my gfs needs from my FreeNas box so I just bought her one and shes content and it does what she wants.
18:36 < madvillain> which means im useless to her now haha
18:36 < Hatter> madvillain: why? were you injured over there?
18:37 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> madvillain, Damn, FreeNAS strikes again.
18:37 < madvillain> Hatter: no, I was talking about how my gf doesnt need me for IT issues anymore.
18:38 < Hatter> oh right
18:38 < bmurt> madvillain: we're just impressed you have a gf
18:38 < madvillain> bmurt: I am too
18:38 < bmurt> how often do you need to deflate her to pack up and put away before your parents & friends come over to visit?
18:38 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> bmurt, lol
18:38 < madvillain> bmurt: I need about a 5 min lead time to do it right
18:39 < madvillain> 3 if im in a rush
18:47 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> McDonaldsWiFi, Any updates?
18:49 <+TuxedoJack> felda: no, we'd be using e-mails / encrypted messaging for everything, and assholes who insist on faxes don't get thermal paper, they get color dot-matrix printers
18:49 <+TuxedoJack> Fucking ImageWriter IIs, bitches
18:50 < m4221> TuxedoJack: no, ImageWriter Is
18:51 <+TuxedoJack> DECwriters
18:51 < m4221> TuxedoJack: Daisywhell printers
18:51 < m4221> Weel
18:52 <+TuxedoJack> m4221: actually, be evil. Nothing but thermal paper, but on impact printers, so it presses a heat head down instead of an ink dot
18:52 <+TuxedoJack> Because if we're combining the worst of the worst, let's make it utter shit
18:52 < abakedapplepie> man
18:52 < abakedapplepie> i submitted a bug report to sophos
18:52 < abakedapplepie> "its not a bug its a feature"
18:52 < abakedapplepie> ok
18:52 < abakedapplepie> fix it
18:53 < abakedapplepie> at least theyre owning it
18:53 < abakedapplepie> and see its an issue
18:53 < abakedapplepie> but its not going to be fixed any time soon
18:53 < abakedapplepie> they put pagination on anti spam rules, so you cant move a rule from the bottom to the top of the rule processing stack if you have more than one page
18:53 < abakedapplepie> which is whew levels of oversight
19:02 < JFDkthx> fucking stinky user coughed and farted at the same time
19:02 < JFDkthx> get out of here stinky user
19:03 < voidstar> reminds me of the time I let a sleeper go when I was in a meeting with a superior
19:07 < JFDkthx> voidstar: when i was still in the mil, command decided they wanted to do a walkthrough, i had eaten a buffalo chicken pizza the night before and my farts were starting to peel the paper off the walls. i'll never forget the look of disgust on their faces as they quickly walk away from my ops desk
19:08 < abakedapplepie> lol
19:11 < Code_Man65> JFDkthx:  Enlisted I assume?  Were your fellow workers also laughing?
19:12 < mal_will> I need some help-my boss loves name brand advice. I need to show him an example of what a policy>standard>guideline/procedure/balh, looks like, but it has to be from a name brand. When I create one from my brain/education, he gets all confused
19:12 < mal_will> "You just...made this in word?
19:13 < JFDkthx> Code_Man65: yeah, we had about 300 desks on the ops floor and in a 20ft radius around me no one was sitting there that day. first shirt gave me a bunch of shit that afternoon
19:13 < mal_will> by yourself?"
19:13 < The_Dv8or> sup
19:13 < mal_will> JFDkthx: so the fart was just a bonus gift with the cough?
19:14 < JFDkthx> mal_will: it's an old man, so it's likely the cough caused the fart
19:14 < abakedapplepie> mal_will: what do you need?
19:14 < abakedapplepie> im not sure i understand lol
19:14 < mal_will> free gift with purchase, nice
19:14 < abakedapplepie> mal_will send me what you wrote and ill slap a letterhead on it ;)
19:14 < mal_will> abakedapplepie: I need to show him what real companies do when they make these policies, standards, etc
19:15 < abakedapplepie> what industry
19:15 < JFDkthx> make it a standard
19:15 < mal_will> He's like "Let's make a policy for network hardedning standards"
19:15 < mal_will> Health
19:15 < mal_will> and I'm like, man, that is a lot of knowledge you're lacking in this subject and I have a lot to unpack here
19:16 < mal_will> for our soc audit, he printed and submitted a screenshot of an email as a policy. the email said "don't let people in the building if they don't work here"
19:16 < JFDkthx> nice
19:16 < mal_will> since it's a screenshot, we don't know who sent it, to whom, or when. and he sees nothing wrong with that
19:17 < abakedapplepie> lmfao
19:17 < JFDkthx> mal_will: dont let unauthorized people into your network
19:17 < abakedapplepie> well, i guess he recognizes his own shortcoming and is trying to do better
19:17 < abakedapplepie> just.. trying too hard
19:17 < mal_will> oh, no, he doesn't
19:17 < mal_will> He's like: "emails can be policies
19:17 < mal_will> it's telling people what to do"
19:17 < JFDkthx> guidance*
19:19 < JFDkthx> emails can be guidance, you write policies from guidance. its fine to have directives through email but if you want policies you need to actually write them.
19:20 < Casteil> damn I might get moved downtown sooner than I thought
19:20 < Casteil> honestly I don't really want to work down here, as fancy as our offices are down here
19:20 < JFDkthx> moving away from boat job?
19:20 < Casteil> no, same company
19:21 < Casteil> I've just been working from a separate office away from the rest of corporate (including my boss)
19:22 < Casteil> I don't want to deal with rush hour city traffic, my commute will go from ~5 minutes to probably 30 minutes of rage
19:22 < The_Dv8or> where you live
19:23 < Casteil> grand rapids, MI
19:23 < mal_will> the soc dudes really weren't impressed
19:23 < Casteil> it's a smaller city, but my way in/out is one of main ways
19:24 < mal_will> "we wanted policies..."
19:25 <+TuxedoJack> Well, why the fuck is the Texas AG calling our offices
19:25 <+TuxedoJack> Oh, wait, it's because someone's delinquent on their child support
19:25 <+TuxedoJack> God dammit
19:26 < JFDkthx> mal_will: start with their expectations, and then start fleshing out 00-IT-XX.docs
19:26 < aleph-> TuxedoJack: lol
19:27 < JFDkthx> TuxedoJack: forward them to the help desk
19:27 <+TuxedoJack> JFDkthx: they _CALLED_ the helpdesk
19:27 <+TuxedoJack> I sent it to the payroll admin, because from the look of it, they're going to start garnishing someone's wages soon
19:27 < Code_Man65> TuxedoJack:  What did they call them?
19:27 < JFDkthx> im sorry sir, what does the icon for "child support" look like
19:28 < JFDkthx> "can you go ahead and reboot your computer while i do some research"
19:36 < Sousapro> JFDkthx: I remember it looking like the planned parenthood logo
19:46 < khelpw> Has anyone here gone through the process and paperwork to become a dell/EMC partner?
19:47 <+giant_it_burrit> no
19:47 <+giant_it_burrit> we all died
19:47 <@ravioli> rip
19:47 <+DrGibby|> f
19:47 < JFDkthx> khelpw: was looking at that yesterday
19:47 < voidstar> ripperoni ravioli ?
19:47 < khelpw> Any idea what the 'sponsoring distributor' thing is about?
19:48 < felda> LMAO I spooked the user I saw trying to get to naughty stuff in the firewall logs
19:49 < felda> Know it's some guy who comes in occasionally and work a separate job for my boss
19:49 < voidstar> deets
19:49 < felda> Bang on the bathroom door he's shitting in
19:49 < felda> Just hear him sigh
19:49 < felda> and pfblockerng is setup to only show a white pixel as the response.  there isn't actually any block page
19:50 <@ravioli> should redirect to felda.io
19:50 < felda> that would be pretty hilarious
19:50 < The_Dv8or> if he had any brains, hed use Opera with VPN
19:50 < The_Dv8or> that shit works
19:51 < voidstar> fuck I thought I opened myspace
19:51 < felda> yes I would agree most users know what VPN even means and are also inclined to use one at work to browse porn
19:53 < felda> just looked it up
19:53 < felda> last year a survey found that 40% of employees had rubbed one out at work and that includes women too
19:54 < The_Dv8or> it would be better if there was correlating data showing how long they were at that job
19:54 < felda> yeah wasn't really much of a study sadly :(
19:54 < The_Dv8or> if I worked somewhere for 20 years, and was working wicked late one night and went to beat it in the crapper stall, I deserve a break
19:55 < The_Dv8or> if I was wackin it at my desk on the 2nd week on the job, different category
19:55 < voidstar> it gets rid of my jitters. just before high pressure meetings/presentations. ya know?
19:56 < alazare619> who was avicii apparently he was an EDM guy...was he the creator of darude sandstorm?!
19:57 < gnupluslinux> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
19:57 < alazare619> duhduhduhduhduh DA duhduhduhduh
19:57 < gnupluslinux> mother fucking dropped packets
19:57 < gnupluslinux> there was supposed to be breakfast but vendor was no show
19:57 < gnupluslinux> now im hangry
19:58 < officerrando> sup guys. long time
19:59 <+DrGibby|> OH SHIT THE PIGS ARE HERE
19:59  * DrGibby| runs
20:00 < alazare619> WOOP WOOP
20:00 < alazare619> the sound of the POLICE
20:00 < alazare619> woop woop
20:01 < voidstar> .bofh
20:01 <+layer-eight> voidstar, BOFH says: high pressure system failure
20:02 < JFDkthx> gnupluslinux: two days in a row no bfast
20:02 < JFDkthx> u ded
20:02 < JFDkthx> son
20:02 <+TuxedoJack> Noot noot
20:02 <+TuxedoJack> That's the sound of the police
20:02 < gnupluslinux> i am not happy
20:04 < JFDkthx> have you considered that all vendors are satan
20:04 < JFDkthx> and are only there to cause your problems
20:04 < alazare619> TuxedoJack:  did you see what i posted the other day
20:05 < alazare619> your cat9tails ended up in a random meme group
20:05 < alazare619> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Bzkqiv0i/Screenshot_20180416-135717.png
20:05 < JFDkthx> >2018 >still posting in meme groups
20:06 <+TuxedoJack> God dammit, it's been four fucking years
20:10 < JFDkthx> these people keep emailing me for my resume, and this portion of their careers page makes me want to work for them "Fitness:90-minute fitness lunch with a paid gym membership with shuttle service available for workouts. On-site cardio gym, locker room/showers, classes, and sponsored sports and leagues.  Nutritionist and personal trainer on-site."
20:14 < The_Dv8or> real sysadmins tell free gym memberships to go fuck themselves
20:14 < JFDkthx> people like that wouldnt get fucked anyway
20:15 < The_Dv8or> gimme free lunch, a couch of my own, and the right to never be questioned where the fuck in the world I want to work from
20:15 < The_Dv8or> oh, you have a problem with me VPNing in from Thailand?  FUCK OFF.
20:15 < alazare619> so my company opted to use this HR software thats online
20:15 < alazare619> there privacy policy HOLLY fuck
20:15 < alazare619> https://www.paycom.com/privacy.php
20:15 < alazare619> this shit is a fucking joke
20:15 < alazare619> they first off dont obey do not track
20:16 < alazare619> then go to say that if you have questions regarding their policy to talk to your employer and not them
20:16 < The_Dv8or> God bless em for being fucking honest about it rather than just lying to you
20:16 < alazare619> and then go to say that we have your SSN and everything and you can not request us redact it etc
20:18 < scwizard> docker enterprise 2.0 seems like it's the same thing as openshift
20:19 < The_Dv8or> 2.5 TB drives need to get bigger.  How the fuck am I supposed to carry my media with me
20:19 < scwizard> except with a lot more docker swarm support
20:19 < scwizard> like it hacks thinsg so that you can interface with kubernetes or swarm
20:20 < dragonfleas> Is it possible to search through content of all email accounts in exchange? or would that involve authenticating to each one of them and running a search locally?
20:20 < dragonfleas> some dude is trying to pass his job off to me and my director is insisting that I do it
20:21 < scwizard> dragonfleas: "i'm in the middle of a project sorry"
20:21 < scwizard> oh your director is insisting
20:21 < scwizard> well tough shit i guess
20:21 < dragonfleas> scwizard, i'm in the middle of 5 projects, i told my director I'd research into this but that I don't think it's possible
20:21 < dragonfleas> I need affirmation from you guys if it's possible or not
20:21 < dragonfleas> without logging into every account
20:21 < dragonfleas> because I refuse to do that
20:22 < dragonfleas> that would take like a month
20:22 < dragonfleas> and fill up a computer
20:22 < B_RAD1> general web hosting question hopefully someone can help:
20:22 < B_RAD1> so Content-Disposition response headers on an http req to a PDF
20:22 < The_Dv8or> https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/exchange/en-US/5f87e86e-8412-451a-baf1-ebb6d774bf56/search-all-exchange-2010-mailbox-for-emails-sent-and-received-from-a-specific-email-address?forum=exchange2010
20:23 < B_RAD1> do you set the first piece of the response to application/pdf; file="whatever.pdf" to open within browser?
20:23 < B_RAD1> current requesting a resource and it's attachment; file="whatever.pdf"
20:23 < scwizard> you can't control how the browser opens it
20:23 < scwizard> only what content type it thinks it is
20:24 < B_RAD1> yeah the browser opens it if it can, no?
20:24 < B_RAD1> like Chrome has a built-in pdf reader
20:24 < scwizard> if it's configured to yes
20:24 < B_RAD1> iirc it is out-of-the-bxo
20:24 < B_RAD1> ox
20:24 < B_RAD1> box
20:24 < B_RAD1> *
20:24 < scwizard> but yeah application/pdf is the content type you want
20:24 < B_RAD1> ty
20:24 < scwizard> you can set content types for static content in s3
20:25 < B_RAD1> not s3 but ty
20:25 < scwizard> if you're not using s3 then you need to configure whatever you're using to serve static files (likely nginx)
20:25 < Sergio_CpE> Hi guys , first time joining....I follow the reddit page from time to time
20:25 < scwizard> hi
20:25 < B_RAD1> i truly don't know, it's our intranet team
20:25 < B_RAD1> but they can control that
20:26 < B_RAD1> it's weird scwizard it tries to open in browser but says "If this message is not eventually replaced by the proper contents of the document, your PDF
20:26 < B_RAD1> viewer may not be able to display this type of document."
20:27 < B_RAD1> intranet team keeps blaming browser and hitting me up for fixes but i don't think this is me
20:27 < scwizard> B_RAD1: "Certain PDF files (dynamic XFA forms) created in Adobe LiveCycle can only be opened in Adobe Reader and Adobe Acrobat. When you try to open these files in an alternative PDF viewer, then you will see this error message."
20:28 < B_RAD1> reading that exactly on stackexchange lol
20:28 < scwizard> basically there's some weird PDF shit and chrome doesn't support it
20:28 < B_RAD1> see i told them that a ton of times now
20:28 < scwizard> if they want the pdf to open in chrome, they need to make it chrome compatible
20:28 < B_RAD1> and theyre like 'well we can't regenerate it, there's too many of them'
20:28 < B_RAD1> sounds like they dun goofed.
20:28 < B_RAD1> but still not my prob..
20:28 < scwizard> it's literally impossible to get the pdf to open in chrome
20:28 < tsarbomba> have you tried getting the file directly (wget, curl) and opening in redaer?
20:29 < tsarbomba> reader
20:29 < B_RAD1> tsarbomba, yeah man it opens fine locally
20:29 < scwizard> the only way would be to release a new version in chrome that supports that shit
20:29 < B_RAD1> well this is chrome 66
20:29 < B_RAD1> latest build
20:29 < scwizard> as i said it's impossible
20:29 < tsarbomba> well there you go. the solution is to install reader on every machine that wants that document and set it to default PDF reader both in browser and system.
20:29 < scwizard> they need to tell their users to configure their browsers to open pdfs in acrobat
20:29 < B_RAD1> ah but then there's politics :)
20:29 < tsarbomba> politics is outside the world of IT
20:29 < tsarbomba> as you can see from our /topic
20:29 < B_RAD1> i don't disagree
20:30 < scwizard> there's another way
20:30 < B_RAD1> but it's not my responsibility for the end solve
20:30 < scwizard> you can chance the content type to force the browser to download it
20:30 < B_RAD1> it IS my responsibility to tell them it's not myp roblem
20:30 < B_RAD1> *my problem
20:30 < scwizard> basically say "it's not a PDF it's a downloadable!"
20:30 < B_RAD1> scwizard, see that's where the politics come in. They want SOME documents to open within browser, and some to download.
20:30 < scwizard> then the browser will download it rather than opening it in chrome pdf reader
20:30 < tsarbomba> if there's not another pdf reader on the system already chrome will just grab it anyway
20:30 < tsarbomba> when you open the file
20:31 < B_RAD1> there is, but from the bottom downloads bar in chrome the default action is to open within the Chrome
20:31 < scwizard> B_RAD1: then set the ones to open within browser to application/pdf and the ones to download to application/force-download
20:31 < scwizard> I think that's what they want
20:32 < scwizard> the browser has the ultimate say in how to treat what content types but, you can lie and trick it sorta you see
20:33 < scwizard> you could also set the content type to application/adobepdf
20:33 < scwizard> and configure the browser to open application/adobepdf content in adobe reader
20:33 < scwizard> B_RAD1: am i making sense
20:34 < B_RAD1> yeah I understand; i've been reading much of this information and going back and forth with the user on this already
20:34 < B_RAD1> ty for clarifying though
20:35 < scwizard> like I know if webdevs had their way. When you clicked a pdf link, the browser would download reader, install reader, make reader the default for pdfs and etc
20:35 < scwizard> but that's not how web browsers work, you don't have absolute control, you need to suggest the behavior you want
20:36 < voidstar> dear chrome, pls work
20:40 < derpingit> anyone in the msp game here?
20:40  * DrGibby| pokes chrome with a stick
20:41 < mal_will> ask to see the source code B_RAD1
20:41 < derpingit> wondering what i should charge to maintain 14 pc's in a smb.. cleanups and whatnot
20:41 < mal_will> make 'em shake in their boots
20:41 < derpingit> 20 per pc to high?
20:42 <@Code_Man65> Too low derpingit
20:42 < Sergio_CpE> A friend of mine tried to create his own for like 5 years....it ended up coming back to the corporate world, says he makes more money working for someone
20:42 < derpingit> orly
20:43 <@Code_Man65> I charge $200/hr for consulting work
20:43 < derpingit> damm
20:43 < Sergio_CpE> are you hired 40hrs a week?
20:43 < derpingit> i am
20:44 < derpingit> i'd be a side venture for sure
20:44 <@Code_Man65> Then you are basically setting your hourly rate
20:44 < derpingit> true that
20:44 < Sergio_CpE> 20 days a month? for the whole year?
20:46 < derpingit> ok maybe i'm not explaning myself correctly. i was asked.. "hey computer dude, we got 14 computers for you to cleanup and maintain.. how much" ? i already have a full time job
20:46 <@Code_Man65> That's still consulting work
20:47 <@Code_Man65> $20/hr is way too low for that
20:47 < voidstar> ^
20:47 < AnimalFarmPig> ^^
20:47 < Sergio_CpE> are they asking you to be "on call" for when they have issues?
20:48 < derpingit> right now they just told me the cleanup part.. these are all good questions i'll be making for sure, but as of now, no additional details
20:48 < derpingit> if it's a one time thing for cleanup how much should i charge them ?
20:48 <@Code_Man65> You will be giving up personal time, I highly doubt your personal time is ONLY worth $20/hr
20:49 <@Code_Man65> Most local repair places charge around 300-500 per pc for that shit
20:49 < derpingit> wha? dollars?
20:49 <@Code_Man65> Yes
20:49 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Code_Man65, Shiiiiiit, at those prices, might as well buy a new computer lol
20:49 < derpingit> for 300 they can buy new ones, lol
20:50 < AnimalFarmPig> my personal time is worth more than whatever my day job time is, due to marginal cost/utility and all that stuff
20:50 < Sergio_CpE> you need to ask them with them what "clean up" means for them
20:51 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Sergio_CpE, I'm hoping it's just emptying the recycle bin
20:51 < corn266> Run malwarebytes and disk cleanup
20:51 < voidstar> ccleaner
20:51 < corn266> make sure to spray some new car smell in there too
20:52 < Sergio_CpE> the business owner might be thinking something else...hoping to get brand new comnputers after your "cleaning"
20:53 < derpingit> LOL
20:53 < derpingit> new car smell
20:54 < derpingit> i was thinking awdcleaner + cccleaner + malwarebytes + autoruns analyze .. should take about an houhr each, and will significantly increase performance
20:54 < voidstar> depending on the age of the machines
20:54 < derpingit> tru dad
20:54 < voidstar> it's daddy to you
20:56 < gnupluslinux> why the fuck are all these packets dropping
20:56 < gnupluslinux> gdamn
20:56 < ihre> .bofh
20:56 <+layer-eight> ihre, BOFH says: That's easy to fix, but I can't be bothered.
20:56 < ihre> hmm
20:56 < gnupluslinux> im right about there
21:00 < ihre> derpingit: im not sure if i would charge per pc, rather per hour, you might end up with 1 device that is just a piece of shit, and might cost a lot more time to fix than the other laptops, also, the person that asked you probably knows you already have a full time job so youre giving up personal time just to help him out, dont cut yourself short :P
21:00 < tsarbomba> fuck what "clean up" means. you have to determine what they think "maintain" means.
21:00 < derpingit> thanks, ihre..
21:02 < ihre> tsarbomba: send it back every other week because end user has trashed it Again
21:04 < voidstar> ihre, too real
21:04 < ihre> derpingit: calculate your current wage per hour and at least double it, for starters
21:05 < derpingit> i still have to be competitive tho.. craigslist dudes are advertising $49 repairs.. i potentially got a contract for 14 of them, and they will be my first customer (my friend knows). thanks on the advice btw..
21:06 < derpingit> already sent additional questions to choose between hourly or per machine
21:06 < voidstar> eek craigslist
21:06 <+MillerBOSS> If your competition is craigslist you are seriously doing it wrong derpingit
21:06 < derpingit> i might as well be one to them tbh
21:07 < voidstar> they contacted you because they believe you can do the job with confidence, your price should reflect confidence in your work
21:07 < derpingit> ah. good point!
21:07 < voidstar> craigslist dudes are just throwing out a lure and hoping for a bite
21:07 < voidstar> and their prices reflect that
21:08 < sideup66> Pfsense
21:08 < sideup66> Pfsense
21:08 < sideup66> Pfsense
21:08 < derpingit> lol
21:08 < sideup66> Aww
21:08 < derpingit> come to think of it, can you run a pfsense on a synology vm ?
21:08 < derpingit> just making sideup66 happy
21:08 < scwizard> tfw uploading a 700mb file from my laptop
21:08 < scwizard> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
21:08 < aleph-> So here's some news.
21:09 < aleph-> They caught the OG Night Stalker.
21:09 < scwizard> i need to get this thing setup to build on google cloud
21:09 <+MillerBOSS> Holy fuck >X-Mailer: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
21:09 <+MillerBOSS> In an email header from a vendor.
21:09 <+MillerBOSS> I wish I could blacklist their domain
21:09 < tsarbomba> don't know how?
21:09 < derpingit> lol
21:09 < scwizard> windows 2000?
21:09 < aleph-> Holy fuck.
21:09 < scwizard> mate
21:09 < scwizard> i hate to say it but
21:10 < scwizard> you look at a calendar lately?
21:10 < aleph-> Never thought he was gonna get caught. Who's next? The Zodiac Killer?
21:10 < voidstar> high time for a migration
21:10 < tsarbomba> we already know who the zodiac killer is
21:10 < scwizard> high time for a miration
21:10 < scwizard> 10 years ago
21:10 < scwizard> like i get that there's legacy systems and legacy code but holy fuck
21:10 < ihre> s/migration/migraine
21:10 <+layer-eight> voidstar meant: "high time for a migraine"
21:11 < scwizard> i giggled irl :<
21:11 < scwizard> doesn't reflect good on me to my collegues
21:11 < aleph-> tsarbomba: Heh, that fucking politican?
21:11 < voidstar> I migrated a windows server 2000 to an ubuntu server running samba/postfix/dovecot it's not too horrible
21:11 <+MillerBOSS> And they send attachments. I really need to step up my game for trojan'd attachments like excel/word but I am not sure how to cover everything
21:11 < voidstar> imapcopy works like a treat
21:12 < scwizard> well
21:12 < corn266> gnupluslinux: I made this for you https://imgur.com/5huFoQU
21:12 < gnupluslinux> you lie
21:12 < gnupluslinux> you stole that from the intertoobz
21:13 < gnupluslinux> i seent it
21:13 < corn266> reverse search it
21:13 < sideup66> Pfsense
21:13 < sideup66> feirlane:
21:13 < sideup66> felda:
21:13 < sideup66> Pfsense
21:13 < sideup66> Pfsenae
21:13 < sideup66> Pfsense
21:15 < tsarbomba> anyone here standing with quebecois incels?
21:15 < voidstar>  /part
21:16 < ihre> ELLIOT RODGER
21:17 <+MillerBOSS> The fuck Microsoft Visual J++
21:17 <+MillerBOSS> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms527525(v=exchg.10).aspx
21:18 <@JollyRgrs> tsarbomba: standing with?
21:19 <+MillerBOSS> Now only if they were using flash https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/technology/loud-sound-from-fire-alarm-system-shuts-down-nasdaqs-scandinavian-data-center/
21:22 < felda> sideup66 the reason cats poop so much is they have a fast metabolism than dogs
21:22 < sideup66> Thank you felda
21:22 < sideup66> Never understood that with my sisters
21:22 < sideup66> Damn thing poops 20 times a day
21:22 < felda> it's too bad we won't be seeing cryptic1 around anymore
21:23 < sideup66> Why
21:23 < sideup66> He quit
21:23 < sideup66> Or went to discord?
21:23 < felda> now that the Golden State Killer has been caught he'll be spending a lot of time in jail
21:23 < voidstar> lel
21:23 < sideup66> No he won't felda
21:23 < sideup66> He white.
21:23  * MillerBOSS rolls eyes
21:25 < tsarbomba> jollyrgrs, reddit seems to think it's a good idea to blame all women for not sleeping with the quebec incel terrorist guy
21:25 < ihre> https://github.com/simeji/jid that looks useful :D
21:25 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Next home project: https://www.dornbracht.com/en-us/products/bath-and-spa/transforming-water/horizontal-shower/
21:26 < tsarbomba> are you going to install a stripper pole in your living room
21:27 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> A pole is too stationary. Maybe a swing.
21:28  * MillerBOSS is listening to Newcleus — Jam On It, from the album Destination: Earth - The Definitive Newcleus Recordings
21:29 < ihre> ooh havent heard that one in a while MillerBOSS, nice one
21:29 < ihre> .yt hashim al naafiysh
21:30 <+layer-eight> YouTube Hashim - Al Naafiysh (The Soul) - https://youtu.be/i46sF1PcqL8
21:30 < dragonfleas> They put the JDK behind a paywall now?
21:30 < dragonfleas> Fuck Oracle
21:31 <+MillerBOSS> I feel bad for people that can't get the straight up unfiltered Internet http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/citizen-lab-netsweeper-internet-filtering-tech-censorship-1.4631243
21:31 <+MillerBOSS> Google searches for the keywords "gay" and "lesbian" were blocked in the UAE, Bahrain, and Yemen if accessed over an unencrypted connection.
21:31 <+MillerBOSS> Websites under the category "abortions" were entirely blocked in Kuwait.
21:31 <+MillerBOSS> The World Health Organization was miscategorized as pornography in the UAE and Kuwait.
21:31 <+MillerBOSS> Websites hosting political news, opinion, and criticism were blocked in Bahrain, Qatar, Sudan, and Somalia.
21:31 <+MillerBOSS> Its time
21:31  * MillerBOSS is listening to Cajmere — Percolator (Original Version), from the album Percolator - Single
21:31 < xamithan> Do people speak english in those places ?
21:32 <+MillerBOSS> UAE I know for sure does
21:32 <+MillerBOSS> I mean not all but some/most?
21:32 < xamithan> Everyone in dubai sure
21:32 <+MillerBOSS> Right
21:33 < Hatter> just nuke em all am I right
21:33 < Hatter> turn it into glass
21:33 <+MillerBOSS> We will start with you Hatter
21:33 <+MillerBOSS> Its time for the Percolator
21:33 < xamithan> Just seems strange places would block english slang that are mostly arabic speaking
21:34 <+MillerBOSS> Hatter is too young to know this song
21:34 <+MillerBOSS> Maybe they learn English In school?
21:34 < Hatter> MillerBOSS: I don't much go in for ethnic music
21:34 < alazare619> dragonfleas:  this is good
21:34 <+MillerBOSS> Its more a club/dance song from the late 90s
21:34 < alazare619> dragonfleas:  this means that 1) less shitty designed oracle java software
21:34 < Hatter> yeah it stinks
21:34 < alazare619> 2) see 1
21:35 < alazare619> 3) see 2
21:35 <+MillerBOSS> And usually remixed
21:35 < Hatter> I mean I liked a bit of dance music and techno when I was a lad
21:35 < Hatter> but I grew out of it like everyone should
21:36 < tsarbomba> get atcha boy DJ METRONOME Yo
21:36 < Hatter> tsarbomba is like 60 and keeps referencing hiphop music so he looks cool in front of the kids
21:36 < Hatter> seems a bit creepy in my opinion
21:36 < Hatter> no offense
21:36 <+MillerBOSS> Wrong, Hatter
21:36 < tsarbomba> bitch, please. i was teaching "the kids" what was cool when you were still a gleam in your mother's eye
21:36 < tsarbomba> well. the gleam in her eye behind my spunk, that is
21:36 < Hatter> that's offensive
21:37 <+MillerBOSS> #snowflake
21:37  * MillerBOSS waits for it
21:37 < tsarbomba> grievance culture: coming to a basement near you.
21:37 < gnupluslinux> guh fnally
21:37 < dragonfleas> alazare619, yeah but RIP it as a learning platform
21:38 < technonerd> It's time for the percolater
21:38 < technonerd> \o/
21:38  * aleph- raddles at MillerBOSS
21:39 < Hatter> well I have to admit I do like some of those old novelty hiphop songs
21:39 <+MillerBOSS> Hey aleph- long time no see
21:39 < Hatter> like gap band oops upside your head and dropped a bomb
21:39 < Hatter> those are fun
21:39  * MillerBOSS rolls eyes again
21:39 < aleph-> MillerBOSS: You see me every day in here. :P
21:39 <+MillerBOSS> Oh really?
21:39 < Church-> Really. :P
21:39 <+MillerBOSS> You missed one
21:40 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wx00LUMy-g
21:40 <+layer-eight> YouTube ┃ Title ↠ Snoop Dogg Snoops Upside Ya Head (HQ) ┃ Duration ↠ 5:16 ┃ Upload Date ↠ Sun May 24 22:50:40 UTC 2009
21:40 < Hatter> I skipped to a random part of that song and heard the N-word right away
21:41 < Hatter> the n-word you guys
21:41 < ihre> did you press the report button?
21:41 < gnupluslinux> night?
21:41 < gnupluslinux> nap?
21:41 < The_Dv8or> N-word?  Necrophilia?
21:41 < Hatter> that doesn't seem very faithful to the original
21:41 <+MillerBOSS> Awww can't handle it?
21:41 < gnupluslinux> necromantic?
21:42 < arlion> ihre: reported.
21:42 < ihre> to the Freenode Cops?
21:43 < alazare619> narnia
21:43 < arlion> ihre: all the cops.
21:43 < arlion> You're a fugitive from every government agency on the planet earth.
21:43 <+MillerBOSS> I'm pretty sure Snoop Doggy Dogg said nigga.
21:43 < Hatter> WOAH
21:43 <+MillerBOSS> Is that a new word for you Hatter ?
21:44 < arlion> s/nigga/*****/g
21:44 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS meant: "I'm pretty sure Snoop Doggy Dogg said *****."
21:44 < arlion> I can't believe you said that!
21:44 < Hatter> thank you arlion
21:44 <+MillerBOSS> Said what?
21:44 < arlion> You know white people can't say that word.
21:44 <+MillerBOSS> Thats racist
21:45 < corn266> No doxxing arlion
21:45 < arlion> It's racist that only black people can say that word?
21:45 <+MillerBOSS> I am telling my #snowflake friends
21:45 < arlion> .yt that's racist
21:45 <+layer-eight> YouTube Therapy Dog - That's Racist - https://youtu.be/xNzzrREyIGI
21:45 < Hatter> I need a moderator!
21:45 < arlion> .btoh
21:45 <@ravioli> what do you want
21:45 < Hatter> oh hello
21:45 <+MillerBOSS> s/a moderator!/my head checked!!!!
21:45 <+layer-eight> Hatter meant: "I need my head checked!!!!"
21:46 < Hatter> did I ever mention how little I like being corrected
21:46 < The_Dv8or> hey, is it possible to generate NetFlow on a VMware standard switch?
21:46 < The_Dv8or> I wanna get NetFlow info out of my mgmt port
21:46 < arlion> s/little/much
21:46 <+layer-eight> Hatter meant: "did I ever mention how much I like being corrected"
21:47 < The_Dv8or> s/corrected/erected
21:47 <+layer-eight> Hatter meant: "did I ever mention how much I like being erected"
21:47 < Hatter> ravioli: There's been a lot of inappropriate use of the N-word, and of course rap music is to blame, much like the state of the black community to a large extent
21:47 < The_Dv8or> boot to the head.
21:47 < Hatter> not very nice
21:47 <+MillerBOSS> Another good one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHM513DKuxc
21:48 <+layer-eight> YouTube ┃ Title ↠ snoop doggy dogg - for all my niggaz and bitches ┃ Duration ↠ 4:44 ┃ Upload Date ↠ Fri Apr 11 00:38:05 UTC 2008
21:48 < corn266> Wow youtube, can you really say that?
21:48 <+MillerBOSS> Say what?
21:48 < estranger> Guys this is a Christian channel
21:48 < estranger> Please refrain
21:49 < ConkyAxis> all religion is gay and people like that lack education
21:49 < corn266> If we can't worship satan then I'm out
21:49 < estranger> I forgive you, ConkyAxis
21:49 <+MillerBOSS> ConkyAxis knows whats up
21:50 < tsarbomba> is it friday yet
21:50 < corn266> yea didn't you see MillerBOSS .yt Friday ?
21:50 < estranger> corn266: no Jesus? Know Jesus.
21:51 < syere> I don't know why, but every day, two hours before the end of my work day, everything comes to a sudden halt, like you ran into a brick wall. And then i'm pretty much useless for the rest of the day. Maybe I need to start caffeine
21:52 <+MillerBOSS> Don't do that.
21:52 <+MillerBOSS> That'll bite you in the ass
21:52 <+MillerBOSS> Water does the body good
21:52 < syere> caffeine or not working for two hours
21:52 < syere> Oh, I down at least 70+ oz of water just at work
21:52 < estranger> Syere, afternoon bong rips
21:53 < voidstar> syere, large lunch?
21:53 < syere> estranger, some of my co-workers certainly do! Im on the mindset that unless it's a group think, i dont smoke or drink while im being paid
21:53 < syere> voidstar: kinda? I eat once a day, so lunch is pretty significant calories wise
21:53 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh3EQbLoDCo
21:53 <+layer-eight> YouTube ┃ Title ↠ Ice Cube & Dr. Dre - Friday/Keep Their Heads Ringin' (Ring Ding Dong) [Chronic Break] ┃ Duration ↠ 9:29 ┃ Upload Date ↠ Sun Aug 19 18:14:15 UTC 2012
21:53 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> syere, drinking caffeine takes too long to be useful. By the time it kicks in, you'll be on your way home. Take the grounds and snort it instead for an instant boost. :)
21:53 < voidstar> syere, spread out your calorie intake
21:53 < voidstar> more even energy
21:54 < syere> voidstar: I have some, let's just call it stomach issues. It's harder on me to spread them out
21:54 < voidstar> ah
21:54 < voidstar> even if it's a protein bar every 4 hours
21:54 < syere> what about those chocolate covered coffee beans? I see those a lot
21:54 <@ravioli> the problem with caffeine is how quickly the tolerance picks up
21:55 < Gencade> get back to work ravioli
21:55 < syere> damn. maybe it's time to try breakfast shakes again
21:55 < insecurity> plerpnart
21:55 <@ravioli> doesn't take long for you to need coffee to get back to the original energy level you would have had, if you hadn't started drinking it.
21:55 <+MillerBOSS> Then stop and migraines like a mother fucker.
21:55 < syere> eesh
21:56 < Gencade> DrGibby|, fuck you
21:56 <+MillerBOSS> Gencade 👉 Did you ever see what I typed to you?
21:56 <+MillerBOSS> I was trying to help your sorry ass out
21:56 <+MillerBOSS> :P
21:56 < Gencade> Yeah I downloaded discord
21:57 < Gencade> I don't know how to use it though
21:57 < Gencade> really
21:57 < voidstar> if you find an actually useful server, let me know. all the tech related ones are circle jerks or kids
21:58 < Gencade> I'
21:58 < Gencade> I've always just used teamspeak for voip
21:58 < ihre> hurr durr irc is too difficult, no voip either
21:58 <+MillerBOSS> Discord is easy for voip
21:58 < gnupluslinux> server?
21:58 < voidstar> guild
21:58 < ihre> Klan
21:58 < gnupluslinux> what game
21:58 < gnupluslinux> or service
21:59 < voidstar> guild is what they're called on the backend of discord. they're a collection of text and voice channels
21:59 < ihre> .yt ventrilo duke nukem
21:59 <+layer-eight> YouTube Duke Nukem: Balls of Steel! - https://youtu.be/eckoYQqdk28
22:00 <+MillerBOSS> Balls of steel, what is that?
22:00 < ihre> eat shit and die
22:01 < Gencade> edgy
22:01 < gnupluslinux> .yt onyxia wipe
22:01 <+layer-eight> YouTube Onyxia Wipe Animation - https://youtu.be/HtvIYRrgZ04
22:01 < Gencade> omg I lvoe this
22:01 <+MillerBOSS> Wow this lady is funny every time
22:02 <+MillerBOSS> Triggered!!
22:02 <+MillerBOSS> Thanks ihre
22:02 < gnupluslinux> i should not have had all that caffeine
22:02 < gnupluslinux> eyes spazzing out
22:02 <+MillerBOSS> It only does it when you talk. See that is how you feed the trolls buy keep talking
22:02 < felda> gnupluslinux is the reason why I'm okay with North Korea having nukes
22:02 <+MillerBOSS> s/buy/by
22:02 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS meant: "It only does it when you talk. See that is how you feed the trolls by keep talking"
22:03 < gnupluslinux> felda, opnsense will supplant pf
22:03 < gnupluslinux> believe it!
22:03 < felda> hopefully NK will see how gnupluslinux is and just end the world
22:03 < felda> it's for the best
22:03 < gnupluslinux> O P N S E N T
22:04 < alazare619> i prefer gnupensense
22:04 < alazare619> nope in sense
22:04 < Gencade> I prefer MSDOS
22:04 <+MillerBOSS> The days of sound boards
22:05 < alazare619> balls balls ball balls I've got BALLS OF STEEEEL
22:05 < Nightcinder> hey guys
22:05 < Nightcinder> what
22:05 < Nightcinder> what do you use for exchange on mobile
22:05 < Nightcinder> outlook app?
22:05 < Nightcinder> gmail?
22:06 <+MillerBOSS> mail.app?
22:07 < Gencade> protonmail
22:07 < Gencade> for exchange I just use the default
22:07 < insecurity> internet
22:08 < Nightcinder> i installed nine but never tried it
22:09 < Nightcinder> guess i'll just throw it back into gmail
22:09 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32iy6mfsbh4
22:09 <+layer-eight> YouTube ┃ Title ↠ John Kimble Books a Hotel Room ┃ Duration ↠ 11:52 ┃ Upload Date ↠ Thu Dec 24 22:46:36 UTC 2015
22:09 <+MillerBOSS> ITS NOT A TUMA
22:10 <@ravioli> really wish i were allowed to nap at work
22:10 < The_Dv8or> you can if you do it right
22:10 < The_Dv8or> “gotta go work on something in the data center"
22:10 < hxcsp> i have a server room on the second floor and the telco room has an additional room attached to it
22:10 < hxcsp> im the only one with the keys to the room in the building
22:10 < asimon> ravioli: I used to work with a dude who must have been age 90 at the time, and he would legit bring a pillow in and take naps at his cubicle
22:11 < hxcsp> definately take naps in there
22:11 < The_Dv8or> you can get away with a lotta shit at 90
22:11 < asimon> Every day 2pm he was out
22:11 < Gencade> ravioli, I nap in the server room
22:11 < asimon> Yeah, and he could just turn off his hearing aids too so complete silence
22:11 < The_Dv8or> I used to nap in the breastfeeding room
22:11 < Gencade> The_Dv8or, what happened if a bitch walked in
22:12 < The_Dv8or> what, you think the titty room dont have a lock?
22:12 < The_Dv8or> thats why its the titty room
22:12 < Gencade> So let's walk through this situation The_Dv8or
22:12 < Gencade> I wanna take a nap
22:12 < Gencade> I go to the breastfeeding room
22:12 < Gencade> I take a nap, and hear a knock on the door
22:12 < Gencade> she's like "is anyone in there?"
22:12 < Gencade> now what
22:12 < asimon> Falsetto "In a minute!!!"
22:13 < asimon> ez pz lmn sqzy
22:13 < The_Dv8or> no woman who needs to breastfeed is gonna knock on the door.  She knows breastfeeders need silence
22:13 < The_Dv8or> not to mention no one ever used it anyway
22:13 < The_Dv8or> I worked for VMware, who likes to think theyre all liberal and shit
22:13 < onenerdyguy> so how we all doing around here
22:14 < The_Dv8or> onenerdyguy: Im still basking in the afterglow of the dump I took at the supermarket
22:14 < McDonaldsWiFi> hi
22:14 < Gencade> eek
22:14 < onenerdyguy> well, a) public toilet for the fail and b) shit show of a day today huh?
22:15 < The_Dv8or> hey, you gotta take a shit, you gotta take a shit
22:15 < alazare619> we have a bewb feeding room here
22:15 < alazare619> but i'm like who brings a kid to work?
22:15 < alazare619> never seen the room used
22:15 < hxcsp> to pump
22:15 < The_Dv8or> musta been that corned beef, salami, and swiss sandwich
22:16 < The_Dv8or> alazare619: sometimes you gotta pump yo shit
22:16 < The_Dv8or> otherwise they get blue tits
22:16 < hxcsp> you have to pump even if the baby isnt there or it gets all clogged up. dont you know women alazare619 geez
22:16 < gnupluslinux> what's the function in office365 admin to pull a log of emails between a user and a certain contact?
22:16 < alazare619> 3 kids
22:16 < The_Dv8or> does it really surprise anyone that a sysadmin doesnt know shit about women
22:16 < alazare619> not a single one wanted teh bewb
22:16 < alazare619> i'm like MORE FOR ME
22:16 < alazare619> wife goes
22:16 < alazare619> NOPE
22:16 < alazare619> nope
22:16 < alazare619> NOPE!
22:16 < hxcsp> alazare619 drank the milk
22:16 < hxcsp> he did
22:16 < hxcsp> 100%
22:17 < alazare619> it was lit fam
22:18 < hxcsp> so whats everyone watching on youtube right now. we know you arent working. cryptic1 isnt here saying get back to work
22:18 < onenerdyguy> hxcsp, get back to work
22:18 < hxcsp> make sure you tag the pornhub links with nsfw
22:19 < mal_will> how much do you think a business support analyst makes?
22:19 < The_Dv8or> fuck youtube
22:19 < syere> one of our other offices had to un-ban pornhub due to all the gun videos moving there. it has been hilarious
22:19 < mal_will> lol hxcsp I just watch a vine compilation
22:19 < onenerdyguy> syere, why does your office need gun videos?
22:19 < hxcsp> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KauDJZu9rk&t=1s
22:19 < onenerdyguy> mal_will, more than they should
22:19 <+layer-eight> YouTube ┃ Title ↠ Slayer - Live Voodoo Music Festival 2014 (Full Show HD) ┃ Duration ↠ 1:10:16 ┃ Upload Date ↠ Tue Nov 03 22:39:54 UTC 2015
22:19 < mal_will> what if I told you 50k onenerdyguy
22:19 < syere> onenerdyguy: we make many, *many* gun magazines
22:19 < onenerdyguy> mal_will, depending on the area, sounds feasible
22:20 < mal_will> Denver
22:20 < onenerdyguy> syere, ah. well then. pew pew pew on brother
22:20 < onenerdyguy> mal_will, sounds low
22:20 < mal_will> It's actually a tier two position
22:20 < onenerdyguy> oh
22:20 < onenerdyguy> then that's fine
22:20 < hxcsp> "analyst"
22:20 < mal_will> but you assumed it was important because the title?
22:20 < hxcsp> it for the non it
22:20 < mal_will> SRS. we're never gonna fill this role
22:20 < onenerdyguy> mal_will, yep, title made it sound more of a consultanty
22:20 < mal_will> gdi
22:21 < onenerdyguy> mal_will, if it's a Tier 2 posistion, I'd call it something like Technician
22:21 < hxcsp> replace analyst with admin or tech
22:21 < mal_will> Oh ditto
22:21 < mal_will> this has been open for 4 months and my boss just keeps reposting it
22:21 < mal_will> not listening to me
22:21 < rhqq> evening guys
22:21 < onenerdyguy> Business Support Technician, to me, sounds like glorified helpdesk. Just like a tier 2 should be
22:21 < mal_will> exaccctttllyyy
22:21 < The_Dv8or> what the fuck does a Business Support Analyst do
22:21 < mal_will> I just want Support Technician II
22:21 < derpingit> lol
22:22 < mal_will> They order cell and desk phones, configure cell and desk phones, assist with helpdesk
22:22 < mal_will> the phone part is the II part
22:22 < The_Dv8or> pay me off the books and Ill take the position for a little while
22:22 < onenerdyguy> that sounds like a god damn admin asst.
22:22 < mal_will> but they need to know how to instal a printer tho
22:22 < onenerdyguy> and?
22:22 < The_Dv8or> no, admin assts make Powerpoints and suck cock
22:22 < mal_will> and how to configure a call flow
22:22 < hxcsp> oh thats tier3 work then mal_will
22:22 < derpingit> our last helpdesk girl got hired at another company as "Senior IT Analyst" .. i was.. dafuq? u don't know I.T.
22:22 < mal_will> lolol
22:22 < hxcsp> dealing with printers is an extra 10k/y salarty
22:23 < hxcsp> salary*
22:23 < onenerdyguy> oh god if only
22:23 < mal_will> I fucking wish
22:23 < mal_will> This is my last year in corprate IT
22:23 < derpingit> u can't pay anyone 10k extra for the printer greviencies
22:23 < onenerdyguy> it's hazard pay
22:23 < derpingit> grievances* my bad
22:23 < derpingit> lol
22:23 < mal_will> If I'm still anywhere near a helpdesk this time next year I'm crashing a plan into the ocean
22:23 < hxcsp> its for understanding what pc load letter means
22:24 < mal_will> If I hit 30 and some dumb 22 year old asks me to install his printer, I may slap him
22:24 < mal_will> with the printer
22:24 < hxcsp> should be automated by then
22:24 < onenerdyguy> it's automated now ;)
22:24 < mal_will> I am thinking of showing my boss a forum post
22:25 < hxcsp> dont show your boss 4chan
22:25 < mal_will> that like, rips apart this job title and description
22:25 < onenerdyguy> no, do show your boss 4chan
22:25 < mal_will> 4chan is the only place for this??
22:26 < mal_will> jk but maybe reddit
22:27 < technonerd> Just show him imgur
22:27 < onenerdyguy> then he'll never work again
22:29 < The_Dv8or> reddit’s a pretty good one stop shop
22:30 < The_Dv8or> stuff when youre bored, stuff when you need help, and nekkid chicks
22:30 < onenerdyguy> you sound like a real great guy here, The_Dv8or
22:30 < The_Dv8or> your mom thinks so
22:31 < onenerdyguy> she's dead. legitly. for the last 7 years
22:31 < onenerdyguy> so..
22:31 < mal_will> So yeah imgur
22:32 < mal_will> I wish I could go back in time and slap the phone out of my hand the day I discovered it
22:32 < The_Dv8or> good segue, mal_will
22:32 < mal_will> I try
22:32 <+MillerBOSS> Come on two more years? Lets get people's assses in gear for pushing IPv6 https://labs.ripe.net/Members/wilhelm/so-long-last-8-and-thanks-for-all-the-allocations > On 17 April 2018, we allocated the last available block of 1,024 addresses in 185/8 - the last /8 we received from IANA back in 2011. This article looks at how this address space was allocated and how it is used today. It's important to keep
22:32 <+MillerBOSS>  in mind that while 185/8 is finished, we still have around nine million recovered IPv4 addresses in our available pool. Under current policy and growth rates, we expect these to last a further two years
22:33 < onenerdyguy> MillerBOSS, we're in the process of going full IPv6 here. Biggest hold up? Our ISP
22:33 < The_Dv8or> it should be v6 for public facing shit, v4 for internal shit
22:33 < onenerdyguy> that sorta defeats a big part of the ipv6 use case
22:33 < The_Dv8or> basically v6 is the fancy billboard up front
22:34 < Zrane> Man.  I've got some devices that literally can't handle DHCP on IPv4, let alone even think about ipv6.
22:34 < The_Dv8or> oh, also v6 for shit thats mostly automated and completely behind the scenes, like cable boxen
22:34 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah not sure what you are thinking here 03:33:40 PM  The_Dv8or it should be v6 for public facing shit, v4 for internal shit
22:35 < derpingit> for me is v4 internal, v6 IoT and external
22:35 <+MillerBOSS> You'd do IPv6 all the way around
22:35 <+MillerBOSS> No NAT
22:35 < The_Dv8or> v4 is too prominent in too many places to switch it around
22:35 < The_Dv8or> and if you run dual, you get DNS problems and stuff
22:36 < The_Dv8or> I tried running a v6 lab… fuckin nightmare
22:36 <+MillerBOSS> https://benjojo.co.uk/internet-2018.png
22:36 < Zrane> VAR chat: Anyone used PCM?
22:37 < Hatter> MillerBOSS: explain this
22:38 <+MillerBOSS> Define "this", user.
22:38 < Hatter> what I'm looking at here
22:38 < The_Dv8or> does the bot have a dictionary applet
22:38 < The_Dv8or> Hatter, you sound like a fuckin accountant talking to IT
22:38 < Hatter> how dare you
22:38 <+MillerBOSS> What are you looking at Hatter? I am guessing a keyboard and a monitor of some type
22:38 < The_Dv8or> I know, its an 81 Honda
22:39 < Hatter> well I mean the picture you linked obviously!
22:39 <+MillerBOSS> Well thanks for being descriptive. https://blog.benjojo.co.uk/post/scan-ping-the-internet-hilbert-curve
22:40 < Hatter> you knew what I was talking about the whole time, and I don't appreciate being made to jump through hoops
22:40 < Hatter> but thanks for the information
22:40 <+MillerBOSS> I agree with The_Dv8or
22:41 <+MillerBOSS> Much more information on the subject https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16911241 Hattergonnahate
22:43 < Zrane> It still cracks me up that ford has a fucking /8.
22:43 < Zrane> Even more so that a bunch of their public stuff isn't even on it.
22:43 < The_Dv8or> Ford is one of the most basic companies in the US.  I guess they can do whatever the fuck they want
22:43 <+MillerBOSS> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assigned_/8_IPv4_address_blocks
22:44 < The_Dv8or> if there was an actual audit of whether v4 IP blocks were even used, Im sure we could reclaim at least 30% of them
22:44 < The_Dv8or> fuck, I bet we could reclaim 80% of toll free numbers
22:44 < The_Dv8or> I think theyre down to the 833 area code already
22:44 < Zrane> The_Dv8or, We do business with them.  I've got a VPN tunnel into a 19/8 address, but a lot of their other stuff goes elsewhere.
22:44 < mal_will> Man, SOC audits are ass
22:45 <+MillerBOSS> s/SOC audits are/I smell like
22:45 <+layer-eight> mal_will meant: "Man, I smell like ass"
22:45 < mal_will> MillerBOSS: is an ass
22:46 <+MillerBOSS> K-dot
22:46 < rhqq> pizza time
22:46 < Ottomite> Can anyone here carry out a mercy killing ?
22:47 < Ottomite> i keep getting 0x80070570 error on my new build. Im about to lose it
22:47 < The_Dv8or> new build of what
22:47 < voidstar> need a kaishakunin?
22:47 < Ottomite> Gaming/ work computer.
22:48 < The_Dv8or> LOL
22:48 < Ottomite> Trying to install W10 and it keeps on failing
22:48 < The_Dv8or> those two should not be combined
22:48 < mal_will> ++
22:48 < Ottomite> lol its a personal computer
22:48 < Ottomite> That I just happen to do work on…
22:48 < The_Dv8or> Im sure he req’d a machine from IT with like 128 gigs of RAM because of his “advanced Excel calculations"
22:48 < Ottomite> but currently its a 2.8k paper weight.
22:49 < mal_will> "improved word processing"
22:49 < syere> So this week, I took down production by accident. Who knew putting a logging shipper on windows servers to a udp port could cause 100% cpu usage.
22:49 < The_Dv8or> he runs “big data” in a “Web 3.0 environment”
22:49 < The_Dv8or> logging shipper?
22:50 < syere> The_Dv8or: nxlog to a graylog server
22:50 < The_Dv8or> oh
22:50 < The_Dv8or> yeah, that shit can get outta hand… I remember the first time I deployed spiceworks.  CPU cranking out the ass
22:50 < syere> my only guess so far is that nxlog is reading the event viewer. And I think they have never been cleared out.
22:51 < The_Dv8or> theres gotta be a way to redirect those logs to a central log collector, and then use a GPO or something to toss anything over x number of days
22:53 < Hunterkll> The_Dv8or, to be fair to advanced excel calculations, I have some spreadsheets/workbooks that bar none require 64 bit excel and they'll take up 40GB+ ram
22:53 < syere> I'm sure there is. I come from a *nix background, so this is all new to me
22:54 < Hunterkll> syere, just find the qradar logging agent
22:54 < Hunterkll> it spits out windows logs as sysllog
22:54 < syere> oh yea?
22:55 < Hunterkll> IBM QRadar, Juniper STRM ... you want the "WinCollect" agent from one of those
22:55 < syere> is it a built in windows thing or is this a third party app
22:55 < syere> gotcha
22:55 < Hunterkll> I had juniper STRM, but it just spits it out as normal sysliog
22:56 < syere> interesting, thanks for the tip
22:56 < Hunterkll> ah not wincollect, adaptive log exporter was what we used
22:56 < Hunterkll> but
22:56 < Hunterkll> wincollect is the successor apparently
22:57 <+TuxedoJack> I have a gallon of Sodastream's Red Bull mixed with Diet Mountain Dew
22:57 <+TuxedoJack> This can only end well
22:58 < Hunterkll> sweet
22:58 < Hunterkll> so i'm doing llake tahoe next month
22:58 < Hunterkll> then laughlin the month after
23:02 < The_Dv8or> I need to get to Tahoe one of these years
23:04 < audia5> is this okay excersise desktop http://i64.tinypic.com/2qxvy2a.jpg
23:04 < Church-> TuxedoJack: You're going to blow your heart one day.
23:04 < Church-> Hunterkll: Fucking christ...
23:04 < Church-> At some point I think SQL just needs to be considered.
23:04 < Hunterkll> Church-, casinoc omps
23:04 < Hunterkll> lol
23:04 < Hunterkll> oh
23:04 < Hunterkll> the spreadsheets
23:04 < Hunterkll> nah
23:04 < Hunterkll> that'd be even a huger clusterfuck
23:05 < Church-> Man, my nerves are shot for tomorrow.
23:05 < Church-> Blegh.
23:05 < Church-> Hunterkll: Yeah possibly.
23:05 < Hunterkll> nevermind the pseudo Forth interpreter implemented in VBA for one that generates and sends code and pulls data from a mainframe...
23:05 < Church-> ...
23:05 < Hunterkll> oh, you think you've seen office abuse?
23:05 < Church-> I can see?!
23:05 < onenerdyguy> huh. sanity check
23:05 < Hunterkll> I've seen worse. I guarantee it.
23:05 < Church-> I really wanna see it.
23:05 < onenerdyguy> use ansible to deploy windows VMs?
23:05 < onenerdyguy> and join the domains and all that like
23:05 < Hunterkll> .... why?
23:05  * Church- fucking loves FORTH
23:06 < Hunterkll> i just don't see the need for ansible in a windows network
23:06 < Hunterkll> or salt
23:06 < Hunterkll> when SCCM exists
23:06  * Church- also loves things realted to FORTH
23:06 < Hunterkll> honestly it replaced those toollls in linux too
23:06 < Hunterkll> ;P
23:06 < onenerdyguy> Hunterkll, this is a hybrid network, so the goal would be single pane of glass management for linux/win
23:06 < Hunterkll> Church-, I once implemented an ADA interpreter in VBA
23:06 < onenerdyguy> since SCCM shits the bed on linux
23:06 < Hunterkll> ;)
23:06 < Hunterkll> no, no it doesn't
23:06 < Hunterkll> you just don't know what you're doing
23:06 < Church-> What onenerdyguy said.
23:06 < Hunterkll> :)
23:06 < Hunterkll> I patch RHEL, Solaris, and OS X with SCCM
23:06 < Church-> Probably to make it easier and only use one tool.
23:06 < Hunterkll> :P
23:06 < Church-> lol
23:06 < onenerdyguy> Hunterkll, great, patching. woop de fuck.
23:06 < audia5> is this okay desktop excersise chair to have @work http://i64.tinypic.com/2qxvy2a.jpg
23:07 < Hunterkll> onenerdyguy, and a lot more, too
23:07 < onenerdyguy> Hunterkll, i want to push a button and have a full environment built to speck
23:07 < Hunterkll> config file management, enforcement, etc
23:07 < tsarbomba> some incels claim that there's a woman to blaaaaame
23:07 < Church-> Huh, I should mess around with ADA more one dat.
23:07 < Hunterkll> yea, I have done linux and OS X OSD with SCCM
23:07 < Hunterkll> :P
23:07 < Hunterkll> though for the full setup you'd probablyl want to tie it to templating in SCVMM with an onboot TS
23:07 < Hunterkll> that way you can flex deploy into AWS, Azure, or on-prem to XenServer, ESXi, or Hyper-V
23:08 < onenerdyguy> Hunterkll, which would be great if I didn't use KVM
23:08 < onenerdyguy> Hunterkll, plus WOO MORE LICENSING
23:08 < tsarbomba> you can tell hunterkll is lying because nobody in the history of the world has ever deployed an apple server into production. ever.
23:09 < onenerdyguy> tsarbomba, um..last job. deployed an OSX server
23:09 < tsarbomba> #fakenews
23:09 < onenerdyguy> tsarbomba, you need them to work with like Configurator
23:09 < tsarbomba> just shove an iphone into a linux server
23:09 < voidstar> is that PnP?
23:09 < Hunterkll> tsarbomba, who said apple server? I said SCCM
23:09 < onenerdyguy> Hunterkll, i'd be legit interested in learning more about that setup, but it's gonna be a hard sell to management cuz of new licensing.
23:10 < Hunterkll> tsarbomba, SCCM == Microsoft == Windows
23:10 < tsarbomba> plug 'n pray, yes
23:10 < onenerdyguy> Hunterkll, but back to the matter at hand: ansible to manage windows?
23:10 < Hunterkll> I wouldn't do it, but I use a lot of features that are just not present
23:10 < onenerdyguy> such as? I'm curious now
23:11 < audia5> http://i64.tinypic.com/2qxvy2a.jpg  guys what do you think of excersise chair @work
23:11 <@Code_Man65> uit
23:11 < onenerdyguy> audia5, my ass hurts just looking at that
23:12 < tsarbomba> i'm pretty sure that guy is getting too much sexual excitement out of that 'chair' to effectively work
23:13 < Hunterkll> Defender ATP and exploit guard management, O365 deployment functionality (only two supported ways to manage O365 clients - SCCM or direct from cloud. WSUS need not apply), OSD task sequences/PXE booting, patch management in general, client peer cache for passing around pacakges instead of pulling direct from server, a bunch of stuff on enforcement of policies (compliance settings/compliance baselines), etc
23:13 < Hunterkll> Ansible is a 'push and go' thing
23:13 < Hunterkll> SCCM is a continual re-evaluation cycle thing
23:13 < tsarbomba> standing desk will kill you quickly
23:13 < onenerdyguy> Oh, so yeah, completely different use case, I hear ya
23:14 < mal_will> Man, I don't know if I could take that chair seriously in an office
23:14 < Hunterkll> like if i don't want someone to twiddle a setting I can't manage through GPO on a server
23:14 < Hunterkll> i'll use a compliance baseline
23:14 <+TuxedoJack> GOD FUCKING DAMMIT
23:14 < Hunterkll> that'll re-evaluate and fix the setting every hour
23:14 <+TuxedoJack> New RDP hack wave
23:14 <+TuxedoJack> Two clients hit in 3 hours
23:14 < tsarbomba> lol
23:14 < Hunterkll> 'new' ?
23:14 < tsarbomba> why do you have naked rdp open?
23:14 < Hunterkll> it's continuall
23:14 <+TuxedoJack> Weak fucking goddamn password
23:14 < Hunterkll> tsarbomba, naked RDP isn't a real problem if your shit's set up right
23:14 <+TuxedoJack> Got in, Crypto'd shit, same fucking suffix, file name, and e-mail
23:14 < Hunterkll> my desktop has like 3000+ llogin attempts a day TuxedoJack
23:14 < tsarbomba> s/isn't/is ABSOLUTELY IN EVERY USE CASE
23:14 <+layer-eight> Hunterkll meant: "tsarbomba, naked RDP is ABSOLUTELY IN EVERY USE CASE a real problem if your shit's set up right"
23:14 < Hunterkll> lol
23:14 < F34RInc> TuxedoJack, Time to make money, tons of billable time
23:15 < Hunterkll> tsarbomba, what's the difference between naked RDP and an RDS gateway?
23:15 < Hunterkll> hmmm?
23:15 <+TuxedoJack> CyberArms is on it, 2 failed attempts locks an account until it's manually unlocked
23:15 < Hunterkll> nothing, if you can authenticate
23:15 < Hunterkll> :D
23:15 <+TuxedoJack> This is weak fucking passwords
23:15 < Hunterkll> Mine's smartcard only via RDP
23:15 < tsarbomba> i figure if i ever become disenfranchised here and they screw me out of something i'll open everybody's RDP up to the wan and leave giggling.
23:15 < Hunterkll> so good lluck
23:15 <+TuxedoJack> And stupid fucking HR dipshits who won't back us on requiring security
23:16 < onenerdyguy> honestly, rolling out Guacamole for remote access was huge for us here. Devs need access to multiple platforms, and that set it up with a single port, MFA, and LDAP backend
23:16 < Maarten> when using RDP, just make sure you don't have "allow connections from any clients" selected. Only allow secure connections (basically, Windows Vista and higher).
23:17 < Church-> I forgot how much straightening my hair hurts.
23:17 < Church-> So much damn burning.
23:17 < tsarbomba> lots of nerve endings in hair
23:17 < Church-> lol, is there really?
23:17 < onenerdyguy> sounds like your bad at doing it
23:17 < onenerdyguy> and no, there isnt
23:17 < onenerdyguy> your hair is dead
23:17 < tsarbomba> no, of course not
23:17 < tsarbomba> otherwise you'd be in utter agony every time you got a haircut
23:17 < tsarbomba> it would give neckbeards an excuse to be neckbeards too
23:17 < tsarbomba> and we just can't have that
23:18 < Church-> lolololol
23:18 < Church-> onenerdyguy: I have somebody do it. I can't fucking reach correctly, my range of motion is fucked.
23:18 < onenerdyguy> sucks for you
23:18 < tsarbomba> today feels like a thursday, doesn't it? who can i talk to in order to get today officially redesignated as thursday
23:21 <+CheckYourSix> tsarbomba: Yesterday felt like Friday for me
23:21 < audia5> next week is 1st may holiday day
23:26 < Gencade> im tired
23:28 < DomLS3> Gencade: #donger
23:36 <+MillerBOSS> Say goodbye to Google Play Music
23:37 <+MillerBOSS> Google the company ran by kids that change shit every three and a half years.
23:37 < Gencade> source?
23:38 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah yourmom
23:38 < mal_will> lol
23:38 < Gencade> nice one
23:38 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.techmeme.com/180424/p36#a180424p36
23:38 < bigchim> pillow talk is cheap ;)
23:38 <+MillerBOSS> >Source: Google Play Music will be replaced by YouTube's upcoming music streaming service, with Play Music users forced to use the new service by the end of 2018  —  When Google finally launches its rumored YouTube Remix platform this year, one of its other services will be put to rest.
23:38 < vader-> apple is supposed to be getting rid of digital downloads in like 1-2 yaers
23:38 < vader-> years
23:38 < vader-> they are going to go all streaming
23:38 < Gencade> They are replacing google music with youtube red basically?
23:38 < mal_will> lol no
23:39 < Gencade> Hey MillerBOSS I'm updating that macbook to high sierra
23:39 < Gencade> thoughts
23:39 < binaryhermit> s/youtube red/redtube
23:39 <+layer-eight> Gencade meant: "They are replacing google music with redtube basically?"
23:39 < Gencade> I mean I'd be down for that binaryhermit
23:39 <+MillerBOSS> Feel free to ignore mal_will she is still on last night's alcohol.
23:39 < vader-> amazon is cutting their music service too
23:39 < Gencade> >she
23:39 < Gencade> no girls allowed in #r-s
23:39 < mal_will> MillerBOSS: is just an ass
23:40 <+MillerBOSS> Truth hurts.
23:40 < Gencade> no girls allowed in my tree fort
23:40 < mal_will> hurrdurr what is dns?
23:40 < Gencade> .bofh
23:40 <+layer-eight> Gencade, BOFH says: SCSI Chain overterminated
23:40 < mal_will> but rebranding and combingin offerings isn't killing either platform
23:41 < mkillebrew> it's like the dewy decimal system you use to find your cook books and housekeeping books
23:41 <+MillerBOSS> Uhh yeah it is. Its call the interface and youtube search sucks ass
23:41 <+MillerBOSS> s/call/called
23:41 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS meant: "Uhh yeah it is. Its called the interface and youtube search sucks ass"
23:41 < mal_will> nah, but you do you
23:41 < Gencade> s/youtube/redtube
23:41 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS meant: "Uhh yeah it is. Its called the interface and redtube search sucks ass"
23:42 < DomLS3> redtube search is legit
23:42 < DomLS3> xnxx better though
23:42 < Gencade> fuck no
23:42 < Gencade> pornhub for life
23:42 < DomLS3> nah
23:42 < DomLS3> motherless for life
23:42 < Gencade> ye
23:42 <+MillerBOSS> mal_will 👉 put the booze down you are embarrassing yourself.
23:42 < mal_will> you're the one who doesn't know how ssl certs work, lmao
23:42 <+MillerBOSS> Says you.
23:42 < The_Dv8or> if you were to play an original NES game right meow, what would you play
23:42 < Gencade> you guys should fight in #donger
23:42 < mal_will> nah you adminitted it last night lol
23:43 < mkillebrew> After this week,I'm convinced many people don't know how SSL certs work
23:43 < Gencade> The_Dv8or, I'd go outside
23:43 < The_Dv8or> I went outside
23:43 < mal_will> "how will the hackes get info?"
23:43 < mal_will> "but but, route 53"
23:43 <+MillerBOSS> Keep that one going as far as you can.
23:43 <+MillerBOSS> lol
23:43 < Gencade> .bofh
23:43 <+layer-eight> Gencade, BOFH says: Sysadmins busy fighting SPAM.
23:43 < mal_will> you're obv still butthurt
23:43 < mal_will> maybe learn to handle yourself
23:43 <+MillerBOSS> I never was
23:43 < mkillebrew> you're both kinda butthurt
23:44 < Gencade> I'm butthurt
23:44 < Gencade> MillerBOSS, I am installing high sierra
23:44 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah how is it?
23:44 < Gencade> Not sure yet - easy install process so far
23:44 < Gencade> It says 40 minutes remaining
23:44 <+MillerBOSS> Must be a hard drive then
23:44 < Gencade> Yeah believe so
23:45 < Gencade> is the harddrive souldered to the computer
23:45 < mkillebrew> Is 10.13 even supported on systems that are old enough not to have SSD?
23:45 <+MillerBOSS> Then that is not a hard drive buddy
23:45 < ThatOneRoadie> Alright, I need an F5 Guru
23:45 < ThatOneRoadie> I'm trying to set up an F5 RDP Session Host app
23:45 < ThatOneRoadie> so that I can load balance among, say, 3 session servers
23:46  * Gencade shrugs
23:47 <+MillerBOSS> What are your plans with it Gencade ?
23:47 < ThatOneRoadie> Everything server-side is on the same subnet, for example: the F5's virtual server IP is 192.168.1.25, the connection broker is 192.168.1.26, and the session hosts are 192.168.1.27, 28, and 29. The RDP Client on 192.168.0.10 (different subnet) instantly fails with "an internal error occurred"
23:47 < Gencade> GOnna try to set up a development workflow on it for school in the summer/fall MillerBOSS
23:48 < mkillebrew> on what are you installed int?
23:48 < The_Dv8or> what do you people use to monitor your servers and network
23:48 < mkillebrew> *installing it
23:48 < mkillebrew> What do you mean "you people"
23:48 < ThatOneRoadie> I'm people?
23:48 < The_Dv8or> I mean you people
23:48 < ThatOneRoadie> (solarwinds)
23:49 < The_Dv8or> boy
23:49  * The_Dv8or wipes off his brow with his Confederate Flag bandana
23:49 < Gencade> solarwinds
23:49 < Gencade> nagios is also good
23:49 < The_Dv8or> Ill prolly nagios it
23:49 < mkillebrew> prometheus/alertmanager
23:50 < Gencade> Back when I first started I just used a bunch of scripts >.>
23:50 < mkillebrew> push to chat/email/pagerduty
23:50 < Gencade> those were the days
23:50 <+MillerBOSS> Are you gonna wing it Gencade as far as setting her up?
23:51 < Gencade> I think so, I feel like that's the best way getting acclimated to a new type of environment MillerBOSS
23:51 < Gencade> That's what I did on gnu/linux distros I tried out
23:51 <+MillerBOSS> Just don't give up on it. Have an open mind. :)
23:51 < Gencade> When people say that it makes me think whatever they are talking about is aids
23:51 <+MillerBOSS> Well its nots aids for siure
23:51 < Gencade> there are only two types of things people say that about - Sex and shitty products
23:52 <+MillerBOSS> Negative. Its because I know you have such a negative attitude already :P
23:53 < xe0n> morning
23:53 < Gencade> naww if I had a strictly negative attitude about it I wouldn't be trying it D:
23:53 < Gencade> xe0n, evening
23:54 < xe0n> whats the g.o
23:55 < Gencade> afk for a bit
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