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00:00 <+MillerBOSS> How much RAM again Gencade ?
00:15 <+MillerBOSS> http://aboutthedata.com/
00:18 < Stoob> man wtf
00:19 < Stoob> in october 2016 i bought my new server with 64gb of ram... 4x 16GB 2400mhz ecc ddr4 2rx4 sticks @ $87/stick
00:20 < Stoob> was thinking oh i could use another 64gb
00:20 < Stoob> YA FKN RITE
00:20 < Stoob> >:(
00:20 <+MillerBOSS> About double now for sticks
00:20 <+MillerBOSS> Right?
00:21 < Gencade`> Why is memory so high lately
00:21 < Gencade`> cryptominers?
00:21 <+MillerBOSS> Supply and demand
00:22 < Gencade`> MillerBOSS: is there anything I need to be particularly wary of when it comes to installing and configuring macOS, seems pretty idiotproof
00:23 <+MillerBOSS> No not really.
00:23 <+MillerBOSS> Just make sure you are making backup as if it was me I learn a new OS by fucking around and reinstalling
00:24 <+MillerBOSS> .g carbon copy cloner
00:24 <+layer-eight> Google 31,400 results found for: " carbon copy cloner "
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00:24 <+MillerBOSS> Another script to fix
00:25 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDuper/SuperDuperDescription.html https://bombich.com/ and Time Machine too
00:25 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.arqbackup.com/ is awesome too
00:26 < Gencade`> MillerBOSS: will do, thank you
00:26 <+MillerBOSS> Or just use a thumb drive and copy your users folder
00:26 < Gencade`> I am afraid this OS will make my hair go purple and encourage me to get a fine arts degree
00:27 <+MillerBOSS> Also ~/Library is hidden
00:27 < Stoob> MillerBOSS: supply and demand more like COLLUSION AND NEARMONOPOLY >:(
00:27 <+MillerBOSS> http://osxdaily.com/2016/12/12/show-user-library-folder-macos-sierra/
00:29 <+MillerBOSS> Like to modify and customize the hell out of macOS
00:29 <+MillerBOSS> I*
00:29 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah it is getting there Stoob
00:34 < The_Dv8or> ping
00:35 <+MillerBOSS> pong
00:37 <@cryptic1> ping
00:38 <+layer-eight> PONG
00:41 < Gencade`> get back to work cryptic1
00:42 <@cryptic1> D:
00:42 < Gencade`> :D
00:43 < Gencade`> .bofh
00:43 <+layer-eight> Gencade`, BOFH says: Out of cards on drive D:
00:50 < Gencade`> Quiet in here tonight
00:51 < Stoob> tooo quiet
00:51 < Gencade`> How are you doing Stoob
00:51  * Stoob rolls out untested changes to prod
00:51 < Gencade`> don't do it
00:51  * Gencade` has horrible flashbacks
00:51 < Stoob> lol
00:52 < Stoob> I'm doin alright, wishin everything was cheaper and I had more money,but thats normal - how bout you?
00:54 <+TuxedoJack> Fucking Replay
00:54 <+TuxedoJack> 500GB over gigabit to a Hyper-V console
00:54 <+TuxedoJack> Christ
00:54 <+TuxedoJack> Oh, and the really nice part?
00:54 <+TuxedoJack> The Replay Core is on a fucking Pentium E5500
01:00 < Stoob> time to migrate to 10g? :D
01:00 < The_Dv8or> what you runnin
01:00 < The_Dv8or> if you got a one host lab, no
01:00 < The_Dv8or> if youre running 2300 VMware hosts on one line, might get yoself 25 gig
01:01 < Gencade`> Stoob: not too bad, playing around with macOS for the first time
01:02 < Stoob> virtualized?
01:03 < rpifan> hi
01:03 < The_Dv8or> macOS is the only way to go
01:04 < The_Dv8or> been running Mac as my primary since 2003
01:07 < rpifan> anyone good with python
01:08 < czarbomba> hulk hogan is good with the pythons
01:08 < rpifan> i need to write a script that will run and query a db but hte db is behind a vpn
01:08 < rpifan> i want to get the script to tunnel thrugo
01:09 < czarbomba> just disable the need for vpn.
01:09 < czarbomba> YOLO
01:09 < rpifan> i wish i could
01:09 < rpifan> im gonna get into a fist fight soon
01:09 < rpifan> but before that
01:10 < czarbomba> i was joking
01:10 < czarbomba> if you do that someone should definitely beat yr ass
01:10 < rpifan> lol
01:10 < rpifan> well i nthe mean time
01:10 < rpifan> how can i get the script to tunnel
01:11 < czarbomba> what kind of vpn is it
01:12 < xamithan> Is there a device that the tunnel is already present on?  Just route the requests through that
01:12 < rpifan> openvpn
01:12 < czarbomba> what's the client OS
01:13 < rpifan> im running the script on windows but i want ot make it universal, i have no idea where it tunnels to, im not allowe dto know that
01:13 < rpifan> i have the ovpn file
01:13 < czarbomba> you can't make it universaql
01:13 < czarbomba> different OSes (and indeed different flavors of the same OS) launch VPNs differently
01:13 < xamithan> He can,  but it'd have to detect each OS version and each specific vpn package client
01:14 < xamithan> Waste of time
01:14 < rpifan> isnt there a way to get python itself to run the tunnel
01:14 < rpifan> i saw something
01:14 < rpifan> somewhere
01:14 < rpifan> but idk
01:14 < Gencade`> Stoob: naw, got my hands on some actual hardware
01:14 < The_Dv8or> what kinda machine is your openvpn running on
01:14 < Gencade`> a 2015 model macbook
01:14 < czarbomba> you could do a ridiculous set of if/then loops trying to anticipate the command to launch the vpn connection
01:14 < czarbomba> but that's still not 'universal'
01:14 < rpifan> hm
01:14 < rpifan> well i guess il have to add that ot the future wish list
01:14 < The_Dv8or> I just downloaded the appliance and ran that
01:15 < The_Dv8or> the Linux install they provided on there is kinda shit, but it works
01:15 < The_Dv8or> very well, I might add
01:16 < czarbomba> this should work with ubuntu or derivatives: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48754813/launch-vpn-with-python-script
01:16 < czarbomba> but you have to figure out the cli command to launch the vpn for any other platforms
01:16 < rpifan> well again im not on linux, thats banend at my fucken company
01:17 < czarbomba> is there a cli interface for the openvpn client?
01:17 < mkillebrew> ew, network manager
01:17 < The_Dv8or> Linux banned…. theres some good thinking
01:17 < The_Dv8or> I gotta ask why
01:17 < rhqq> czarbomba: what you mean
01:17 < mkillebrew> There's a GUI for OpenVPN?
01:17 < czarbomba> it's a conceptual example, millebrew
01:17 < The_Dv8or> mkillebrew: theres a Web GUI
01:17 < rpifan> cause there retards
01:17 < rpifan> dont make me think about it too much
01:17 < mkillebrew> wat
01:17 < rpifan> im clsoe to quiting as it is
01:17 < rhqq> theres a plethora of client interfaces for openvpn
01:18 < rpifan> they blame the GDPR
01:18 < czarbomba> millebrew is having a difficult couple days with analytical thought
01:18 < mkillebrew> I always just cli things
01:18 < rpifan> cause guy is making policies that wont connect to linux
01:18 < rhqq> and none(?) for server
01:18 < mkillebrew> openvpn and vpnc, depending on the endpoint
01:18 < rpifan> The_Dv8or, id pay u to talk to our infra ppl to make them change
01:18 < The_Dv8or> thats why I want to work for a small to midsized company
01:18 < czarbomba> rpifan just replace the nmcli commands with whatever cli command you use to connect to your vpn
01:19 < rpifan> they arent big
01:19 < rpifan> tye got like 200 ppl maybe
01:20 < czarbomba> i wonder if anybody uses these 'amazon lockers' i keep seeing at whole foods and other stores
01:20 < The_Dv8or> theyre good for returning shit
01:20 < czarbomba> they seem kinda small, though i suspect there's nothing to stop the delivery guy from splitting a delivery into a whole bunch of lockers
01:20 < czarbomba> oh they'll pick up from there too eh?
01:21 < czarbomba> that could be a timesaver. of course, the nearest one to my house is pretty far.
01:21 < czarbomba> the one near work is close but in the opposite direction i would be going to leave for home
01:21 < The_Dv8or> you also dont have to pay return shipping
01:22 < czarbomba> i'll bet when musk is done building tubes he'll work with bezos to install them for all the lockers
01:22 < rpifan> well if i cant get the auto vpn to work
01:22 < rpifan> i got other db related things to do
01:22 < rpifan> but i guess thats all on me
01:22 < xamithan> Maybe they'll actually put those lockers outside of the top 10 cities too
01:22 < xamithan> Might be nice
01:22 < The_Dv8or> is Denver a top 10 city?
01:22 < mal_will> Yeah, I think?
01:22 < mal_will> We have a ton of them
01:23 < czarbomba> miami is but coverage is still kinda ass
01:23 < The_Dv8or> lets name top 10 cities
01:23 < mal_will> Denver
01:23 < mal_will> :P
01:23 < The_Dv8or> New York, LA, Chicago, Houston, Phoenix, Washington — six so far
01:23 < mal_will> I mean, are the amazon lockers actually only in top 10 cities?
01:23 < xamithan> I'm exagerrating,  more like the top 30 cities
01:23 < czarbomba> ah not metro areas
01:24 < mal_will> Denver is 19
01:24 < rpifan> im in miami
01:24 < czarbomba> miami's 42 but that's only because most of what people think of as 'miami' are actually other cities
01:24 < The_Dv8or> Amazon says over 50 cities
01:24 < czarbomba> north miami, aventura, coral gables, hialeah, etc.
01:25 < xamithan> Over 50 cities = The top 1 or 2 cities by state
01:25 < xamithan> Still not a lot and useless for anyone not in a huge metro
01:25 < czarbomba> (wyoming and the dakotas optional)
01:25 < czarbomba> i don't know about useless
01:25 < czarbomba> i doubt the only placesw amazon boxes get stolen are top-50 cities
01:26 < xamithan> I meant useless as in it doesn't exist
01:26 < czarbomba> and if my options for a particular package are to give amazon delivery dude access to my house or go pick up the package from a locker i'm gonna go with the locker
01:26 < xamithan> Gotta pick my amazon packages up straight from the UPS office
01:26 < czarbomba> ah, yeah, and they didn't do much of a job of advertising
01:26 < czarbomba> these things just sorta sprang up one day
01:27 < mal_will> My building doesn't have a doorman, and I wish it did
01:27 < mal_will> doormen-the ultimate amazon lockers
01:29 < xamithan> I like those business mail boxes with the extra storage doors for packages
01:29 < xamithan> Why can't amazon just build those for every address
01:29 < mal_will> amazon locker revolution
01:29 < mal_will> Taking doormen and doormat jobs
01:30 < misspwn_> sup
01:31 < rpifan> i hate amazon
01:32 < rhqq> why
01:33 < misspwn_> man, even if things go south with amazon, they always do me right
01:34 < ihre> misspwn_: like?
01:36 < The_Dv8or> ping
01:38 < m4221> Sousapro:
01:38 < m4221> Hey
01:38 < rhqq> ihre: howdy
01:38 < Sousapro> Hey
01:38 < ihre> yo rhqq
01:38 < rhqq> insomnia? :P
01:38 < ihre> yup, browsing ebay and discogs :P
01:39 < rhqq> i'm late working as usual :P
01:39 < rhqq> buying something or just killing time
01:40 < ihre> well discogs is always ... you bump into stuff you didnt know you were looking for, then off to ebay to find a cheaper one, and end up on something totally different :P
01:40 < rhqq> yeah, this is why i no longer browse any of that
01:40 < rhqq> :P
01:40 < rhqq> instead of ebay i was ending up on aliexpress
01:41 < rhqq> i have over 2k packages shipped from china already, and not a single one this year. it was like an addiction
01:41 < ihre> both items im looking at right now arent really sold anywhere else unless you accidentally run into them :p
01:41 < sadbox> https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/25/ford-to-stop-selling-every-car-in-north-america-but-the-mustang-and-focus-active/
01:41 < sadbox> oh dang
01:41 < sadbox> dear people I was talking to about the fiesta / focus yesterday
01:42 < ihre> haha yeah same with buying music, i always manage to find some records I really dig but they're never available locally
01:42 < sadbox> ^^^^ RIP those cars
01:42 < ihre> so fml
01:42 < sadbox> ihre: I live in a p big area, so any good record store is pretty picked over
01:42 < sadbox> ihre: But, luckily I listen to a lot of classical
01:42 < sadbox> and there's a SHITLOAD of that
01:42 < ihre> haha yeah i can imagine there isnt a lot of competition in that area
01:42 < rhqq> i have a rule i never pay for music. i do pay for concerts though and that's my contribution
01:43 < ihre> as for buying music
01:43 < ihre> i go to concerts, buy tapes, vinyl, record store fairs, i like it
01:43 < The_Dv8or> Ive started paying for music
01:43 < rhqq> yeah, if you're a collector, sure
01:43 < ihre> same with bandcamp :P
01:43 < The_Dv8or> but I still steal movies and TV shows that I store on my plex server
01:43 < sadbox> I mainly pay for records and apple music
01:43 < rhqq> but to "just listen to it" im not going to give them a single penny
01:44 < ihre> i havent downloaded a movie in about a year i think
01:44 < sadbox> rhqq: why not?
01:44 < The_Dv8or> I basically pay for access to them via my cable bill, Im not tolerating them controlling how I watch it
01:44 < xe0n> loll
01:44 < ihre> lots of music i like isnt available on spotify either, and by buying their shit they can keep producing more, so win win :P
01:45 < ihre> but then again, that just goes for new records
01:45 < rhqq> sadbox: it's part of culture. same with books and everything that carry something thats not for commercial benefit of the user
01:45 < ihre> 2nd hand doesnt make sense in that way, shits expensive.
01:45 <+NinjaStyle> Hey dudes
01:45 < xe0n> coffee is pretty sweet
01:45 < sadbox> rhqq: I like funding the things that I appreciate
01:45 < sadbox> art's gotta be made somehow
01:45 < rhqq> well, i go to concerts
01:46 < ihre> and 10-12$ for a tape which includes the digital download as well seems like an okay deal to me :)
01:46 < ihre> sadbox: +++
01:46 < rhqq> depends on where were you raised
01:46 < The_Dv8or> someday someone’s gonna have to explain to me why one painting is worth 12 bucks, and what seems to be an equally shitting painting is worth $150,000
01:46 < sadbox> rhqq: where were you raised?
01:47 < rhqq> Poland, i know people who make $12 a day
01:47 < rhqq> only last decade salaries went up enough to make things roughly affordable
01:48 < ihre> also, stopped smoking weed saves me a pretty penny, gotta spend it on something :P
01:48 < rhqq> i mean from the upper-end of the commercial goods
01:48 < sadbox> rhqq: I mean, I grew up in poverty too, I just don't have an issue spending money now that I have it
01:48 < rhqq> food was always dirt cheap here
01:48 < rhqq> it's not poverty when you can easily afford food but a cellphone is 2 months of your salary
01:49 < rhqq> it's just the disproportion of basics vs luxurious goods
01:50 < rhqq> so yeah, when you can have a decent lunch for $4, a tape for $12 is still a rip-off
01:51 < sadbox> I live in opposite world now
01:51 < sadbox> rent / food is p expensive
01:51 < sadbox> and in turn music / toys / whatever is relatively cheap
01:51 < rhqq> yeah
01:51 < rhqq> it's difficult to really explain it, because you take something very different as "natural"
01:53 < ihre> they have to get paid somehow, and im not against downloading, but if i can somehow support content i feel is worth my money, why not, and when you account for all the logistics/production (not Just the music), 10-12$ isnt a lot :)
01:53 <+NinjaStyle> Isn't it weird how usually when people say 6 figures they mean 100000-200000 but like you could make anywhere from 100000-999999 and still be six figures
01:53 < ihre> i do wonder what the payment model of something like bandcamp is, i guess they take a commission between 5 and 25% or something like that
01:53 < czarbomba> i say "eight figures" because i always include the numbers after the decimal point
01:53 < sadbox> NinjaStyle: prolly cause there's a lot more people in the 100-200k range
01:54 < ihre> ah, 15% for music, 10% for merch
01:54 <+NinjaStyle> If you made >200k you would probably not say six figures
01:54 < ihre> 'intermediary' platforms are a golden business model, still a rip off :P
01:54 < czarbomba> you wouldn't talk about money with anyone here.
01:54 < sadbox> NinjaStyle: I make more than 200k and I just say 6 figures FWIW
01:54 < czarbomba> a broker, perhaps, but not a sysadmin
01:54 < czarbomba> oh see you gave sadbox an opportunity to humblebrag
01:55 <+NinjaStyle> sadbox: do you really?
01:55 <+NinjaStyle> In pesos or usd?
01:55 < rhqq> depends on the currency =]
01:55 < ihre> talked to an artist last week, who sold a piece during an exposition, the gallery took 40% :|
01:55 < rhqq> yeah
01:55 < sadbox> czarbomba: got to get it in someway
01:55 < sadbox> NinjaStyle: in USD
01:55 < sadbox> I work in silicon valley as a SRE-type position
01:55 <+NinjaStyle> In one year or 3?
01:55 < czarbomba> (that's his lifetime earnings)
01:56 < czarbomba> oh so you're making $200k but you're paying like $175k/year in rent alone
01:56 < sadbox> more or less yeah
01:56 < sadbox> czarbomba: It is not an impressive sum of money for the area
01:57 <+NinjaStyle> My new job is headquartered in sv
01:57 < misspwn_> ihre, oh sorry i'm cooking too. so i ordered amazon home service to have someone show up and clean. they did a mediocre job and amazon fully refunded me no questions really. if a package doesn't show up they send me new and then when the package did show up they told me to just keep it
01:58 < sadbox> NinjaStyle: well if you go work for goog / FB / etc the starting total comp is normally close to 200k
01:58 <+NinjaStyle> sadbox: do you drive a Tesla?
01:58 < sadbox> no
01:58 < sadbox> I drive a honda fit
01:58 < rhqq> hah, i pay $7.5k rent/year ;-)
01:58 <+NinjaStyle> Lame
01:58 < sadbox> rhqq: My monthly rent is like 3k
01:58 < Kobe`> how big is your pladce
01:58 < sadbox> 913 sq ft
01:58 <+NinjaStyle> sadbox: I'm talking base not total comp
01:59 < sadbox> 2-bedroom, fairly far away from anything interesting
01:59 < sadbox> NinjaStyle: a large portion of your salary will be RSUs
01:59 < rhqq> mine is 500sq ft though, but i live alone
01:59 < czarbomba> amazon...cleaning?
01:59 < xe0n> ^
01:59 < rhqq> and i live in close proximity to everything. i mean close == walk distance
01:59 <+NinjaStyle> sadbox: I had a friend at Apple who had a bunch of shares
02:01 < sadbox> NinjaStyle: also re: not counting "total comp", then Zuckerberg earns dick all
02:01 < sadbox> like $1
02:01 < czarbomba> misspwn_ what are you making for dinner for the channel
02:02 < czarbomba> cryptic1 has abandoned his duty to make us sandwiches
02:02 < misspwn_> some bullshit fajita stirfry
02:02 < czarbomba> it's growing dire here
02:02 < ihre> misspwn_: ah i was thinking aws, but that is cool, didnt know they even provide such services, my local amazon just sells ebooks :P
02:02 <+CheckYourSix> He's a billionaire already though, so it's not like he needs an actual salary...
02:02 < sadbox> CheckYourSix: RSUs are like 40% of my total comp each year
02:02 < sadbox> :P
02:02 <+CheckYourSix> Yeah
02:02 < czarbomba> name one billionaire besides buffett or gates who doesn't have a singular drive to accumulate even more ducats
02:03 <+NinjaStyle> I've never counted total comp as my salary personally
02:03 < sadbox> czarbomba: zuckerberg is doing the donate-all-ur-money thing
02:03 < ihre> comp I work for raked up a ~100k aws bill due to leaked creds, everything was refunded :^)
02:03 < czarbomba> ninjastyle it's another humblebrag. i think he's saying "in addition to my $200+k a year i'm ROLLIN' IN STOCK YAHEARD
02:04 < czarbomba> "\
02:04 <+NinjaStyle> Nah none of that
02:04 < sadbox> czarbomba: oh, I'm lil' under 200k if you don't count stocks
02:04 < czarbomba> if stocks are 40% of your compensation and you're "a little under 200k" without them then you're a lot over 200k with them
02:04  * czarbomba maths good
02:05 < mkillebrew> your compansation is what gets taxed that year
02:05 < czarbomba> do you want to grab a calculator and rethink this?
02:05 < sadbox> czarbomba: lets say I earn 190k, 190*1.4 = 266?
02:05 < czarbomba> um
02:05 < czarbomba> that's, uh, not how you calculate that
02:05 <+NinjaStyle> Um
02:06 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah
02:06 < sadbox> man I don't know math
02:06 < sadbox> what do I look like, an engineer?
02:06 < misspwn_> wana share some of that stock, dawg?
02:06 < czarbomba> I'VE GOT A GOLDEN STOCK DRAWER
02:07 < czarbomba> i wonder if the flat earth guy who keeps trying to launch rockets pays his employees in stock options
02:07 <+NinjaStyle> 299*.6=179.4
02:07 <+NinjaStyle> Maybe he makes 299
02:08 < czarbomba> i'd like to explain to him why he needs to assume earth is an oblate spheroid to actually enter orbit instead of just kinda rocket off into the outer solar system
02:08 < czarbomba> but i'm kinda hoping exactly that happens
02:08 < czarbomba> engineering darwinism
02:08 < sadbox> NinjaStyle: more likely I am bad at math
02:08 <@cryptic1> ban czarbomba
02:09 < czarbomba> besides, it won't matter. he could accidentally hit orbit and then just assert that he was always perpendicular to the plane of the "flat disc" he considers earth
02:09 < czarbomba> (something else that is mathematically hilarious)
02:09 < misspwn_> golden stock drawer, jackpot
02:09 < sadbox> my salary is a lil' under 200k, total is mid 200's, so prolly closer to 20-30%
02:09 < czarbomba> ah, you found a calculator
02:09 < sadbox> i.e. fairly normal engineer salary for sv
02:10 < czarbomba> what's your title, systems engineer?
02:10 < sadbox> czarbomba: close enough
02:10 < czarbomba> CoL has kept me from applying anywhere near northern cali
02:10 < rhqq> col ?
02:10 < czarbomba> cost of living
02:10 < rhqq> ah
02:11 < rhqq> you should all get remote jobs and come to poland =]
02:11 < czarbomba> looked at the rough cost of renting a place for six months to a year while i found a place to buy
02:11 < czarbomba> even the lowball estimates were lolwat
02:11 < sadbox> czarbomba: I got relo here, they paid... lots for that
02:11 < Kobe`> rhqq i tried applying for jobs in eu
02:11 < czarbomba> that would be a definite requirement
02:11 < Kobe`> no one will respond if i dont have eu citizenship
02:11 < sadbox> my prior company was falling apart and I got the offer, so it worked ouyt
02:11 < rhqq> Kobe`: bullshit :P
02:11 < rhqq> we have many americans here
02:12 < czarbomba> kobe voted for brexit, you see
02:12 < Kobe`> I know :(
02:12 < czarbomba> it's revenge against the tories
02:12 < Kobe`> i asked a recruiter she said most companies dont want to bother with paperwork
02:12 < rhqq> ugh
02:12 < sadbox> Kobe`: that's a bummer
02:12 < rhqq> what countries did you try
02:13 < Kobe`> mostly malta
02:13 < czarbomba> didn't see that coming
02:13 < rhqq> ah, well. that may be true for most of the western europe
02:13 < ihre> Kobe`: what are you looking for? comp i work for has more non-eu employees than locals ;p
02:13 < ihre> malta? at casino's ? :P
02:13 < Kobe`> basically, mostly gaming platforms yea
02:13 < czarbomba> i'll bet spanish companies would pop for the paperwork given the economic situation outside of the tourist hotbeds
02:13 < Kobe`> gf's maltese so i gave it a shot
02:13 < Kobe`> make her happy and what not
02:13 < czarbomba> if you're good enough, that is
02:14 < ihre> Kobe`: what kind of job are you looking for?
02:14 < Kobe`> the pay is shit too
02:14 < Kobe`> was told 45k euro was the top around there
02:14 < sadbox> Kobe`: I had good luck getting responses in DE/FR/IE
02:14 < Kobe`> devops/syseng
02:14 < czarbomba> yeah and like 75% of that will be taxed
02:14 < czarbomba> but hey, you'll get health care
02:14 < Kobe`> well they also get like 2 months PTO
02:14 < rhqq> thats why i said to get remote jobs and live here ;p
02:15 < ihre> Kobe`: send me a pm if you want a link to a job that happily takes non-eu people :p
02:15 < czarbomba> rhqq is trying to turn kobe into an offshore job-stealer
02:15 < xe0n> loll
02:15 < rhqq> hah, i'm working for american comapny
02:15 < sadbox> czarbomba: NinjaStyle FWIW I'm going to guess there's other people from bigger SV companies in this channel
02:15 < rhqq> so yeah, i'm a jobstealer :D
02:15 < sadbox> and they probably earn more than I do
02:15 < sadbox> silly high salaries + silly high CoL
02:15 < rhqq> and i promote this style of living. america is expensive to live as fuck
02:16 < czarbomba> okay. what say you, #r-s? fresh coal-fired margherita pizza and some broccoli rabe, cheeseburger stuffed with melted cheddar and topped with jalalalalapenos, or a mess of thai native-hot pork pad thai
02:16 < Kobe`> the eu recruiter asked me how much i made
02:16 < Kobe`> i just laughed and said "a lot more"
02:16 < rhqq> yup, sounds about right
02:17 < sadbox> Kobe`: the year before I got this job I got another offer in silicon valley
02:17 < sadbox> for like 75k/yr
02:17 < sadbox> no relocation
02:17 < Kobe`> ewww
02:17 < Kobe`> h1b?
02:17 < sadbox> i lol'd
02:17 < sadbox> naw, I'm murican
02:17 < sadbox> startups pay shit
02:17 < czarbomba> shit i wouldn't even commute to the next town for $75k
02:17 < xe0n> loll
02:18 < Kobe`> i mean 75k was what i was making with 0 experience in LA
02:18 < Kobe`> at a startup
02:18 < howru> 75k wat
02:18 <@JollyRgrs> #1 startup... too dumb to know
02:18 < howru> usd
02:19 < suttin> DrGibby|: AKCHUALLY
02:19 <@JollyRgrs> #2,... LA
02:19 < howru> that's a lot men
02:19 <@JollyRgrs> not in LA
02:19 < sadbox> howru: not in silicon valley, yo
02:19 < howru> i have the 3rd world country problems
02:19 < howru> so that's really a lot for me lel
02:19 < Kobe`> well cost of living varies
02:19 < howru> yep
02:19 < sadbox> howru: the town next to my office has a median home price of 5million
02:19 < Kobe`> a 1br apartment in that part of LA was 2,000$
02:19 < rhqq> yeah, point of view depends on where you're at
02:19 < Kobe`> and lunch is 20$
02:20 < sadbox> the "cheap" towns are only around a million now
02:20 < howru> ohh
02:20 < Kobe`> 75k after taxes is 35k
02:20 < czarbomba> third world country problems? what happened? your wife left you for a brahmin elder, your goat was run over by a tata nano and you were evicted from your hillside hovel?
02:20 < rhqq> howru where are you from
02:21 < rhqq> ph ?
02:21 < howru> ph
02:21 < howru> u guessed it right
02:21 < howru> how
02:21 < rhqq> your ip
02:21 < sadbox> howru: your IP
02:21 < howru> o yea
02:21 < howru> fk. i don't have a irc bouncer
02:21 < czarbomba> does your president sometimes roll into your town and terrorize the villagers?
02:22 < czarbomba> (ours does)
02:22 < sadbox> howru: you can register w/ freenode and get a mask
02:22 < ihre> and a mask is worth shit unless you configure https://freenode.net/kb/answer/sasl :3
02:22 < rhqq> i mean... what's the point anyway
02:22 < howru> yep i'm about to do that. after the meeting i'm having
02:22 < howru> yea
02:23 < czarbomba> how does the mask not obscure ip without sasl?
02:23 < howru> u guys aldy know my ip lel haha
02:23 < Hatsjoe> damn ihre what you doing up brah
02:23 < sadbox> alternatively you can be cool like me and run a bouncer on somewhere where you control the reverse DNS
02:23 < ihre> Hatsjoe: buying shit on the internet i dont really need :D
02:23 < hug> Because you might join chans before you're authenticated and your mask applied.
02:23 < howru> czarbomba: nope. but a lot people hates our president
02:23 < Hatsjoe> :D
02:23 < czarbomba> unless you're talking about the dunderheads who can't/don't use sasl but also don't script a five second delay into autojoins
02:23 < sadbox> czarbomba: if you log in w/o auth you won't get masked until you auth
02:23 < hug> SASL authenticates you before you connect.
02:23 < ihre> hbu?
02:23 < howru> czarbomba: mostly those graduated from the respected colleges
02:23 < czarbomba> hug, so, dunderhead scenario, then
02:24 < hug> Yeah.
02:24 < czarbomba> howru, sounds like the same situation here :D
02:24 < Hatsjoe> Finishing some stuff for this project I'm working on so some guy in India can continue with it when they wake up
02:24 < howru> czarbomba: where is that haha
02:24 < hug> SASL helps though. Also, someone *might* be able to whois you in those five seconds. :O
02:24 < ihre> remember to put in a lot of DTNs
02:24 < czarbomba> i think mumbai is waking up right now
02:24 < howru> czarbomba: idk why they hate him. i mean, he's a lot better than the prvious presidents
02:24 < hug> Also, you can get people's IPs on Freenode via a couple of different tactics, mask or no.
02:24 < Hatsjoe> Wutt? DTN?
02:24 < czarbomba> it's, what, 6/6:30am? i can't remember if they're a half hour time zone or not
02:24 < ihre> do the needful.
02:24 <@JollyRgrs> 9.5
02:25 <@JollyRgrs> off of eastern time
02:25 < rhqq> anyway, let me do cryptic style goodbye
02:25 < rhqq> BACK TO WORK
02:25 < rhqq> :P
02:25 <@JollyRgrs> rhqq: fail
02:25 < rhqq> bye guys o/
02:25 <@JollyRgrs> rhqq: get back to work
02:25 < czarbomba> i don't think you'er accounting for DST
02:25 < howru> bye
02:25 <@JollyRgrs> czarbomba: i might not be
02:25 < rhqq> yeah, you're taking too much of my attention :D
02:25 < czarbomba> oh wait nevermind you are
02:25 < Hatsjoe> ihre: ah its some indian phrase :P
02:25 <@JollyRgrs> oh good
02:25 < czarbomba> flipped the damn operators
02:25 < czarbomba> but yeah it's 6am in mumbai very shortly
02:25 < howru> rhqq: procrastination
02:25 < czarbomba> if it were me i'd be giving up the battle with the snooze alarm right about now
02:26 <@JollyRgrs> i fight that battle very hard
02:26 < Hatsjoe> Whenever I'm in a conference call with them, I can't understand a word they're saying.. Its fine for the first minute, but as time goes by, the speed up their speech and swallow more and more words
02:26 < czarbomba> yeah the snooze alarm is my personal vietnam
02:26 < Hatsjoe> they*
02:26 <@JollyRgrs> Hatsjoe: if it isn't the quality of their VoIP due to network lag and it isn't that they are losing power... it is b/c they start slurring :P
02:26 < czarbomba> also damn nobody made a single suggestion about my dinner
02:26 <@JollyRgrs> and talking super fast while mumbling under breath
02:27 <@JollyRgrs> czarbomba: PB&J
02:27 < czarbomba> that is actually an option
02:27 < Hatsjoe> That is exactly what they do, its horrible and exhausting
02:27 < xamithan> Just assume they are all drunk
02:27 < czarbomba> picked up fresh bread today
02:27 < czarbomba> but i'mma order as follows: czarbomba> okay. what say you, #r-s? fresh coal-fired margherita pizza and some broccoli rabe, cheeseburger stuffed with melted cheddar and topped with jalalalalapenos, or a mess of thai native-hot pork pad thai
02:27 < Hatsjoe> I try to keep conference calls with Indians to a minimum and try to do everything over slack/some other IM.. But they just insist on having phone calls...
02:28 < sadbox> czarbomba: I'd eat that
02:28 < czarbomba> do you ever get the indians who announce themselves by gender-inappropriate names
02:28 < czarbomba> like when the deep-voice indian male calls himself "lucy"
02:30 < xe0n> Hatsjoe: it's a culture thing, i'm working with some atm and yeah, they're the same
02:30 < mal_will> One of my vedor contacts is named Hardik
02:30 < sadbox> xe0n: Hatsjoe: Maybe they're better at communicating in english via speaking
02:31 < sadbox> Or, more accurately, maybe it's easier for them
02:31 < sadbox> I'm better at speaking french than reading it
02:31 < xe0n> sadbox: i just assumed that was the case
02:31 < Hatsjoe> Hmmm might be, idk, but for me its easier to read their crappy English than to hear it
02:32 < mal_will> I prefer the crappy English in writing
02:32 < mal_will> At least I get to spend a minute deciphering
02:34 < xe0n> ^
02:35 < mal_will> It's kind of the worst to be in a one on one call imo
02:35 < mal_will> No one to step in and be like "I think what Hardik is saying is..."
02:44 < Jay-Ros> sup people
02:45 < czarbomba> went with the margherita pizza because why not
02:47 < xe0n> sup Jay-Ros
02:48 <@JollyRgrs> b/c why not? b/c why not!?!?!?
02:48 <@JollyRgrs> b/c that's not a pizza!
02:49 <+NinjaStyle> I want a margarita now
02:50 < xe0n> pizza > *
02:57 <+TuxedoJack> Anyone here use AppAssure 5? Got a VM restore question for you
03:01 < xamithan> events.glassdoor.com/getajoblivestream
03:02 <+giant_it_burrit> I hate people who have emotions that aren't rage
03:03 <+NinjaStyle> Fuck you
03:03 <+giant_it_burrit> Much better
03:04 < mal_will> Have you learned how to get a job xamithan ?
03:04 < xamithan> I got a job
03:05 <+NinjaStyle> Give it to me
03:05 < mal_will> They should cancel the event then
03:05 < mal_will> Pack it up boys
03:05 < xamithan> Need some better jobs
03:06 < Jay-Ros> giant_it_burrit: I don't mind them, but I'm good at setting boundaries of how much I care about things. If it's not fun or work related then don't get me involved
03:08 < Jay-Ros> I need another Anzac day to recover from Anzac day
03:08 < m4221> Hey
03:12 < m4221> JollyRgrs: hey
03:13 <+NinjaStyle> JollyRgrs: hey
03:16 < mal_will> Yeh
03:20 <@JollyRgrs> uh....
03:20  * JollyRgrs waives back at fans
03:22 <+NinjaStyle> Go away
03:22 <+NinjaStyle> I liked you better away
03:26 <+NinjaStyle> I miss JollyRgrs
03:36 < m4221> Sousapro: hey
03:40 < rpifan> misspwn_, helo
03:40 < misspwn_> hola
03:41 < m4221> Does anyone have advice for dealing with a raging alcoholic?
03:42 < misspwn_> ignore them if they aren't in your presence
03:42 < SleePy> Out drink them
03:43 < xe0n> get them to smoke cones too, see how fucked up they can get
03:43 < togen> morning
03:43 < misspwn_> offer to make all their drinks and make them super weak so that when they make their own drinks they think their tolerance is off and they lower it or get alcohol poisoning
03:43 < m4221> I lost count the number of times he said fuck
03:45 < aaa_> hi
03:45 < aaa_> how to join #sysadmin?
03:45 < rpifan> ??
03:45 < rpifan> misspwn_, how r u
03:45 < togen> you are in it >.> the other ones doesn't exist
03:45 < mkillebrew> plz 2 yes kthx
03:45 < togen> :D
03:45 < rpifan> i thguth about u at work today
03:46 < misspwn_> rpifan, did you send me prayers?
03:46 < SleePy> aaa_: Do the needful
03:46 < rpifan> well i spent a lot of time with the tech support lead today
03:46 < rpifan> i find it funny
03:46 < togen> m4221: depends on person/environment
03:46 < rpifan> that she is the one that believes in me the most
03:46 < misspwn_> i'm okay today, it was a busy day but i managed to force myself to take lunch
03:46 < rpifan> its kinda wird
03:46 < m4221> togen: it's my brother
03:47 < m4221> togen: at my parent's house
03:48 < togen> book a psychologist, make sure he attends but getting to that stage will probably require him to admit a problem
03:48 < togen> even if you book a psychologist at your own expense
03:49 < rpifan> i sorta feel like im the smarest person in our 6 person tech deparmtnet but im not sure that cantb e right
03:49 < togen> blessing and a curse that
03:50 < aokfire> Hallo
03:50 < rpifan> aokfire, rr u a aokp dev
03:50 < aokfire> nay
03:50 < aokfire> my phone just shit itself yesterday anyway
03:50 < aokfire> gonna flash custom ROM soon
03:51 < aokfire> wondering what you guys are using for local home/hobby self-hosted documentation
03:51 < aokfire> Wanting something like a wiki but without markdown language
03:51 < czarbomba> documentation is for paid gigs
03:51 < aokfire> or with a WYSIWYG editor
03:51 < aokfire> nah I need to document stuff
03:52 < aokfire> and syncing bookmarks
03:52 < czarbomba> well my real answer isn't going to be very satisfactory
03:52 < aokfire> lay it on me
03:52 < czarbomba> i write down shit i need to remember about the home systems in a pocket notebook
03:52 < czarbomba> ARRANGE BY DATE ONLY
03:52 < rpifan> my work is using confluence
03:53 < aokfire> yeah I write shit down on paper too but I type lots of stuff out
03:53 < aokfire> I want documents
03:53 < aokfire> and git-style copies after changes are made, but all local
03:53 < aokfire> nothing external. all local documentation system/wiki
03:54 < xamithan> Just throw up dokuwiki
03:55 < aokfire> czarbomba I see you use GNOME
03:55 < aokfire> arrange by date only
03:55 < aokfire> er, no.
03:55 < xamithan> Has a bit of markup but isn't bad
03:56 < aokfire> ah this looks good :)
03:56 < aokfire> more wnating so that I can document exactly how I build systems, or setup VMs, or other things like that
03:56 < aokfire> for personal use
03:56 < BytesAndCoffee> WTF
03:56 < aokfire> What does everyone else use?
03:57 < xamithan> I got shaarli for bookmarks
03:57 < BytesAndCoffee> randomly my setup went from alt/mod1 being captured by i3, to irssi capturing it
03:57 < aokfire> so shaarli is local bookmark storage? can it sync between firefox?
03:58 < BytesAndCoffee> and then i was able to click over on my other monitor, open a new terminal window in that workspace, and click back to the first one and alt/mod1 went back to i3
03:58 < aokfire> i wonder if I even need this.
03:58 < aokfire> I bookmark lots of stuff
03:59 < aokfire> oh
03:59 < xamithan> It is a page you visit
03:59 < BytesAndCoffee> oh god i hope they weren't at yonge and finch
03:59 < BytesAndCoffee> er
03:59 < xamithan> I wanted something like del.icio.us but self hosted
03:59 < BytesAndCoffee> wrong window
03:59 < aokfire> BytesAndCoffee was there another incident in TO
04:00 < aokfire> I found a neat setup that would auto-archive bookmarked links, that's what I'm thinking of xamithan
04:00 < BytesAndCoffee> aokfire: no
04:00 < aokfire> so it can deal with bookmarked links, but auto-archive
04:00 < aokfire> lots of neat sites I find I bookmark to look at later then poof, dead
04:00 < xamithan> Meh Then you gotta sort through them all
04:00 < BytesAndCoffee> someone i know on another network lives in Toronto and hasn't been online since the accident
04:00 < aokfire> ya but
04:00 < aokfire> oh :(
04:00 < xamithan> This thing you can tag to make it organized
04:01 < aokfire> you can tag in firefox too
04:01 < aokfire> I put mine in folders
04:02 < xamithan> My folders were too large
04:02 < Jay-Ros> why don't you write up a little GUI with a key-by-key database search and a 'go' button
04:03 < Jay-Ros> and put tags on websites as you're adding them, so you can type 'database' and all the database related links you've saved can be listed in a click box underneath
04:04 < aokfire> BytesAndCoffee I'm sure they're ok
04:04 < aokfire> I hope
04:05 < BytesAndCoffee> i know
04:05 < BytesAndCoffee> just
04:05 < BytesAndCoffee> i worry about friends
04:05 < aokfire> ofc
04:05 < BytesAndCoffee> i haven't even met them IRL, but still
04:05 < aokfire> xamithan https://github.com/pirate/bookmark-archiver
04:06 < aokfire> supports shaarli
04:06 < aokfire> and reddit saved links, oh boy
04:06 < aokfire> BytesAndCoffee means they're a good friend then :)
04:06 < rpifan> misspwn_, do u have underlings
04:06 < xamithan> I don't like how this devs name is "pirate"
04:07 < aokfire> arr they're comin for your bookmarks
04:08 < Jay-Ros> Ye just click the starrrrr and it works matey
04:08 < Jay-Ros> it'd be dodgier if it was something like p1rate_02369
04:08 < aokfire> https://github.com/crestify/crestify another
04:09 < Jay-Ros> having standard english nomenclature means he's a long-term pirate; much more reliable as a pirate.
04:09 <+CheckYourSix> If you were going to set up a small business with email, would you use anything other than O365?
04:09 < Gencade> How is everyone tonight
04:09 < aokfire> but bookmark-archiver is way more featured IMO
04:09 < xe0n> CheckYourSix: no
04:09 < xe0n> o365 or gtfo
04:09 < Jay-Ros> CheckYourSix - straight up o365.
04:09 < Jay-Ros> pay the money, get the benefits.
04:09 < Gencade> So guys
04:09 < Gencade> important question
04:09 < Jay-Ros> yes Gencade?
04:09 < Gencade> Chili's or AppleBees
04:10 < Jay-Ros> You're changing jobs?
04:10 <+CheckYourSix> Jay-Ros: It's really just email, not all of the software, that's needed
04:10 < xe0n> CheckYourSix: exchange plan 1 or kiosk licenses
04:10 < Jay-Ros> CheckYourSix - yeah, but exchange plan 1.
04:10 < Jay-Ros> jinx!
04:10 < xamithan> What kind of silly website is this?  https://fakewindowsupdate.com/
04:10 < xe0n> $5 a pop for plan1, $2.00 for kiosk
04:10 < xe0n> your var can prob get cheaper, we dont pay rrp
04:11 <+CheckYourSix> No VAR
04:11 < xe0n> then whatever the rrp is then
04:11 < xe0n> easy
04:11 <+CheckYourSix> $4/mo
04:11 < Jay-Ros> CheckYourSix - $5AUD :)
04:11 < xe0n> $10 NZ
04:11 < xe0n> :P
04:12 < czarbomba> it's all caribbean money to me
04:12 <+TuxedoJack> FUCKING SHIT-ASS DELL
04:12 <+TuxedoJack> God fucking dammit
04:13 <+TuxedoJack> Why the FUCK does Rapid Recovery shit the bed trying to recover >2TB vvolumes to fucking HyperV
04:13 < czarbomba> blaming the netsplit on dell. it's a bold move. let's see what happens.
04:13 < xe0n> loll
04:13 <+TuxedoJack> Instead of just fucking letting me export straight to VHDX
04:13 < czarbomba> rapid. not robust.
04:17 < togen> TuxedoJack: you should know better than to use anything else but Veeam
04:17 < togen> :D
04:18 < togen> inb4 corrupted data store
04:19 < aokfire> I wanna shrink, baby shrink
04:19 < aokfire> shrink my VMs
04:20 < aokfire> need time to install some SSDs
04:22 <+TuxedoJack> togen: we're migrating to Veeam, this is just a shit client who's cheap and as a result is lower on the upgrade priority
04:24 < togen> RIP
04:24 <+TuxedoJack> And the data store is fine
04:24 <+TuxedoJack> Just that it's a 400GB VM that some jackass set up the OS drive as 2TB to
04:24 < togen> rofl
04:24 <+TuxedoJack> Because MAGICALLY that seems like a good idea
04:24 < togen> thats the worse
04:24 <+TuxedoJack> ... fuck it, I have Kraken in a flask on my desk
04:24 < togen> V2V it to a smaller drive?
04:25 <+TuxedoJack> https://support.quest.com/rapid-recovery/kb/243014/there-is-no-ability-to-perform-hyper-v-export-for-more-than-2-tb-disk-with-vhdx-disk-format-if-select-one-time-export-on-select-vm-export-type-step
04:25 <+TuxedoJack> Known bug
04:25 <+TuxedoJack> And I'm on hold with them now to get the hotfix
04:25 < togen> ouch
04:25 <+TuxedoJack> Fucking jackass tier 1 deleted the VM already
04:25 <+TuxedoJack> So restoring the entire thing from that is the only way to get it back
04:26 < togen> ...
04:26 < togen> i dont even.
04:26 <+TuxedoJack> 400GB of data with 3 different versions of SQL, 5 of QB, and a goddamn fucking shit-ass piece of software called Office Tools
04:26 <+TuxedoJack> For accountants
04:26 <+TuxedoJack> Oh, and it's a terminal server
04:29 < Casteil> https://youtu.be/e7aSde8X5JU?t=94 < fuckin AvE lollllll
04:29 <+layer-eight> YouTube ┃ Title ↠ BOLTR: Fluke T6 Contactless Voltage Meter |  Non-Sense Field Sense ┃ Duration ↠ 13:37 ┃ Upload Date ↠ Thu Apr 26 00:18:58 UTC 2018
04:31 < m4221> What is the oldest system you still have in prod?
04:31 < Gencade> m4221, your mom
04:32 < Gencade> not in prod, but reprod
04:32  * m4221 maces Gencade 
04:32 < DrGibby|> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHZr6P1csiY
04:32 <+layer-eight> YouTube ┃ Title ↠ and the day goes on ┃ Duration ↠ 2:12 ┃ Upload Date ↠ Thu Apr 26 03:25:13 UTC 2018
04:32 < Gencade> fuck you DrGibby|
04:32 < DrGibby|> hey Gencade, just watch the vidja
04:33 < Gencade> is that guy on lsd like 24/7?
04:34 < DrGibby|> do you have to ask that to know the answer?
04:34 < Gencade> good point.
04:34 < togen> TuxedoJack: is it latest win2k8r2?
04:34 < togen> *at least
04:35 < Gencade> nice video DrGibby|
04:35 <+TuxedoJack> togen: small favors, yes.
04:35 <+CheckYourSix> Jay-Ros: Can that Exchange plan 1 be upgraded to a full O365 account down the line if needed?
04:35 <+TuxedoJack> Quest is calling me with the hotfix, but god DAMN, it's like pulling teeth
04:35 <+TuxedoJack> Except less pleasant
04:35 <+TuxedoJack> Because at least when you pull teeth you get septocaine
04:36 < Jay-Ros> CheckYourSix - I've not needed to, but https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_o365admin-mso_upgrade/upgrade-from-exchange-online-plan1-to-office-365/b0a70a8a-8393-4e8a-9469-a4d90af703b6
04:36 < togen> look at the bright side, its not HPE
04:36 < togen> and you need to download something off their website
04:37 <+TuxedoJack> Don't fucking joke about that, that's the single reason (other than their shit-ass OMSA equivalent) that we refuse to buy anything HP newer than 2003
04:37 <+TuxedoJack> HP JL 4300dtn FTW
04:37 < togen> hahaha
04:38 < xe0n> CheckYourSix: yes you can change the sub
04:38 < xe0n> CheckYourSix: just assign a new plan that includes mailbox, remove plan 1 sub, mailbox will still be there
04:38 <+CheckYourSix> Good to know. Thanks
04:42 < m4221> TuxedoJack: how about a crappy laserwriter?
04:51 <+TuxedoJack> m4221: no, I was referring to GOOD devices
04:52 < Jay-Ros> I love my working infrastructure... there's something about restoring hyperv snapshots on purecloud which just warms my cockles
04:53 < Jay-Ros> 0%...30%...70%...done. It's as fast as throwing a bouncy ball across the room and waiting for it to return
04:57 < suttin> ayyy I now have an ldap server running
04:57 < suttin> holy shit was that a pain to get phpldapadmin working
04:58 < voidstar> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-AF_kiAvkE
04:58 <+layer-eight> YouTube ┃ Title ↠ bowl cut maintenance.wmv ┃ Duration ↠ 7:18 ┃ Upload Date ↠ Fri Apr 29 15:17:24 UTC 2011
05:04 <@JollyRgrs> voidstar: OMG
05:04 < DrGibby|> OMG
05:04 <@JollyRgrs> i'm less than 30 sec in and already....
05:05 < voidstar> reporting in from the space ship earth
05:06 < DrGibby|> dude is crazy
05:06 < DrGibby|> tbh, I wish I could be that fucking not caring
05:08 < mal_will> I'd let him watch my kids
05:20 < czarbomba> i am almost out of gigabytes
05:20 < DrGibby|> download more!
05:22 < DrGibby|> https://youtu.be/Ja2QEKEwxc4
05:22 <+layer-eight> YouTube ┃ Title ↠ Cheeseburger Family - Jack Stauber ┃ Duration ↠ 30s ┃ Upload Date ↠ Wed Apr 25 23:05:44 UTC 2018
05:24 < voidstar> lmfao
05:52 < silentfury> i might ragequit tomorrow.
05:58 < DrGibby|> do it
06:03 < silentfury> this one user is apparently a "Severity 1" issue from the IT Director
06:03 < silentfury> this user is full of shit, I've told them this, and now we see if they stand up for their staff or not
06:05 < silentfury> if not, fuck them. I'll just go on vacation on saturday and then deal with it when i get back.
06:06 < xe0n> loll
06:07 < silentfury> my print menus are greyed out
06:07 < silentfury> oh, known issue we're trying to resolve. Use Ctrl-P in the meantime
06:07 < silentfury> [changes GPO to supposedly fix the issue with Citrix]
06:07 < mkillebrew> have you tried turning it off and on again
06:08 < silentfury> it's oracle and citrix
06:08 < silentfury> pretty much in hell
06:08 < silentfury> this is the only user that is massively complaining too
06:09 < silentfury> the rest of the users that use this application are fine with the workaround, etc.
06:46 < The_Dv8or> sup
06:49 < xe0n> sarrrrppp
06:55 < MikeSpears> Sup nerds
06:55 < DrGibby|> the sky
07:27 < The_Dv8or> ping
07:27 < voidstar> destination host unreachable
07:27 < The_Dv8or> good nuff for me
07:28 < The_Dv8or> sup JR
07:29 < Jay-Ros> howdy The_Dv8or
07:29 < Jay-Ros> banging my head against a hypothetical wall with linux load balancers
07:30 < The_Dv8or> what does the farm do
07:34 < xe0n> provide milk
07:35 < Jay-Ros> grows hay
07:36 < Jay-Ros> ...also load balances port 25 exchange
07:36 < Jay-Ros> four CAS servers
07:36 < Gencade> MikeSpears, you're a nerd
07:36 < Gencade> we are the cool kids
07:36 < Gencade> we play football, go to parties, and play guitars
07:36 < Gencade> NERDDD
07:37 < voidstar> we administrate systems of organizing the coaches' playbooks
07:38 < Gencade> Remember when those commentators called those Microsoft Surfaces "IPads" and Microsoft threatened to sue?
07:40 < voidstar> no, but it doesn't surprise
07:40 < xe0n> load balances 25? haha
07:40 < voidstar> freedom 35
07:40 < xe0n> star 69 ins ins ins
07:57 < plop> morning
07:59 < Gencade> Morning plop
07:59 < plop> hey, how is it going Gencade?
08:00 < Jay-Ros> socket 25
08:01 < Jay-Ros> I don't know xe0n, the emailey thing
08:03 < xe0n> haha i knew what you meant :P
08:04 < xe0n> i would've thought you used a mail gateway or something, but whatevs
08:04 < xe0n> who cares
08:08 < Jay-Ros> we've got four relays pointed in from our cloud filter
08:09 < Jay-Ros> but it hits a load balancer (snapt) which is running on VMWare, so I'm knocking up a hyperv one
08:09 < Jay-Ros> ...one works, and one is kicking my ass when I try to hit it up with redundancy / load balancer failover
08:09 < Jay-Ros> all good, the south africans will wake up soon, their support is 9hours behind me
08:34 < xe0n> me: what's your favourite type of chips, sweet potato?
08:34 < xe0n> network admin: bbq shapes
08:34 < xe0n> me: ....what?
08:35 < plop> so i bought some yealink sip dect phones and, frankly, i'm quite surprised on the quality for being that cheap.
08:35 < plop> that one: http://www.yealink.co.uk/W60P-DECT
08:37 < plop> less thank 100€ i believe
08:38 < Jay-Ros> sweet potato and rosemary xe0n
08:39 < Jay-Ros> they're the food of kings!
08:39 < Jay-Ros> what's the price on them plop?
08:39 < Jay-Ros> oh, you mentioned the price, ignore that
08:39 < plop> let me check to make sure
08:39 < Jay-Ros> $169 AUD
08:39 < Jay-Ros> that's pretty good
08:39 < plop> yep. 98€ each one. +tax
08:40 < plop> full of features, superb audio quality, i'm pretty amazed
08:40 < Jay-Ros> I just want a wireless IP boardroom conference phone... that's all I want
08:41 < Jay-Ros> there's those sennheiser bluetooth things, but they're destined for travel if they're left out
08:41 < plop> true
08:41 < Jay-Ros> polycom 2w soundstations are still the only option
08:43 < plop> no cisco option?
08:43 < xe0n> we just got some jabra stuff
08:44 < xe0n> not sure how good it is, but yeah we're rolling it out
08:44 < xe0n> not my project
08:44 < Jay-Ros> I've got a project I can jump into, but my boss is a tightass for this stuff
08:44 < Jay-Ros> "Let's get some surface hubs" - no problem
08:44 < plop> jabra is german tech. pretty good also
08:45 < mtnielsen> surface... hubs.. ?
08:45 < Jay-Ros> mtneilsen - 120kg 84 inch surface
08:45 < Jay-Ros> for people with REALLY bad eyesight that want to use a tablet-style computer
08:45 < xe0n> yeah we got a new smartboard the other week, big touch screen with a nuc plugged int the back lol
08:46 < Jay-Ros> what smartboard did you get?
08:46 < xe0n> ummm
08:46 < mtnielsen> you mean one of those actual huge minority report style desks?>
08:46 < plop> smartboard? we got a clevertouch 85" hah
08:46 < mtnielsen> that I thought no one ever bought ?
08:46 < Jay-Ros> like SMARTBOARD(tm) smartboard?
08:46 < xe0n> i'd have to go look at the brand, but it's something half decent from what the other guys were telling me
08:46 < xe0n> but hey who knows
08:48 < Jay-Ros> yeah these hubs are a nightmare... they don't have external audio processor connectivity so you can't run a dsp on them
08:48 < Jay-Ros> My boss likes them and wants to implement them, but I'd rather a PC and spend the rest of the money for the other parts of the room servicing, like conferencing
08:49 < mtnielsen> I was going to say, the only experience I've had with these things is that they're far too expensive, they offer no advantage over a computer and like with ANY microsoft product, you need a 100-man developer team to make it do anything even remotely enterprise related
08:50 < mtnielsen> and if you have that, build your own instead
08:50 < Jay-Ros> 'these things' as in smartboards or hubs?
08:50 < mtnielsen> the surface hubs
08:50 < Jay-Ros> yeah I'm feeling the same thing
08:50 < mtnielsen> assuming you're talking about these gadgets https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-hub/overview
08:50 < Jay-Ros> them's the turkeys
08:51 < mtnielsen> they do look snazzy though. I mean, I can easily imagine being a CEO with a company that looks as fancy as those marketing shots
08:51 < mtnielsen> just look at how people are huddled around it
08:51 < mtnielsen> looks so PRODUCTIVE
08:51 < Jay-Ros> I could do so much more with so much less
08:52 <+NinjaStyle> Can you do minority report reenactment though?
08:53 < mtnielsen> it's funny though, because I would've thought "hey this product would be perfect for onenote" but then I remembered microsoft's attitude towards onenote
08:53 < Jay-Ros> only if you do choreography with a prerecorded animation
08:53 <+NinjaStyle> You jive ass chicken
08:53 < xe0n> mtnielsen: what attitude? they're pushing it lol
08:53 <+NinjaStyle> OneNote is the shit
08:54 < mtnielsen> well I got one version of onenote with my surface 2 that was exclusively built for surface, only it couldn't actually do any surface functions like take pictures and put them into the document
08:54 < mtnielsen> needed another version of onenote for that
08:54 < mtnielsen> only that didn't really work very well with surface
08:54 < Jay-Ros> ceiling mounted cardoid goosenecks running dante, single DSP with multi-in/multi-out, conference ISDN connection, sidebar touchscreen controller running crestron and a mini pc in the little storage cupboard, apple tv for mac connections
08:54 < mtnielsen> now they're taking onenote out of the office pack and making it a separate purchase
08:54 < Jay-Ros> and some idiot to install it for me
08:55 < xe0n> mtnielsen: its built in windows lol
08:55 < mtnielsen> and they're making it unified-windows-i-forget-what-its-called only
08:55 < Jay-Ros> yeah mtneilsen - that's a pain in the ass... they're getting rid of onennote but keeping onedrive
08:55 < xe0n> onedrive is useful if you have office 365 lol
08:55 < Jay-Ros> I don't but windows 10 still keeps telling me to get involved with it
08:56 < Jay-Ros> I need to add a microphone to my PC so I can tell cortana to fuck off
08:56 < xe0n> home time
08:56 < Jay-Ros> lter xe0n
08:59 < Gencade> hate when I can't sleep
09:00 <+NinjaStyle> Gencade: go to bed
09:00 < Gencade> I tried
09:00 <+NinjaStyle> I'm about to put my phone down
09:00 <+NinjaStyle> :/
09:01 < Gencade> NinjaStyle, I was wondering when people like you, MillerBOSS, DrGibby|, etc sleep
09:01 < mtnielsen> when the whiskey bottle is empty, I imagine?
09:02 < Gencade> That would make the most sense, mtnielsen
09:02 <+NinjaStyle> Lol
09:02 <+NinjaStyle> I'm usually asleep by now
09:02 <+NinjaStyle> I'm in MST
09:03 < Jay-Ros> Minesota?
09:09 < enix> Ahh so I'm about to do something a LITTLE bit dodgy by googles standards
09:09 < enix> quick question thoguh, because i'm out of touch
09:09 < enix> Client -> Proxy -> cPanel host
09:10 < enix> I want the proxy to pretend to be the webserver, so when you access dodgy.com, dodgy.com goes to HAProxy which delegates out to one of ten different proxies which pull content from the central web host
09:10 < enix> as I say that out loud it sounds stupid... could just do remote mysql database host, shared folder, and multiple apache front ends managed by haproxy
09:10 < Jay-Ros> You can run a direct to load balancer that does that anyway right?
09:11 < Jay-Ros> I've got web internally pointing to two snapts pointing to a few servers... I can't see why you couldn't route that out
09:11 < enix> hm.
09:11 < enix> So what I want to do is do wordpress multisite but have each site appear to be a silo
09:12 < enix> hm.
09:12 < enix> haproxy doesn't hide the end point though
09:13 < Jay-Ros> "A comprehensive overview of the setup for a WordPress Multisite subdirectory install hosted on WPENGINE running through a Fastly Load Balancer to a client’s server in Reverse Proxy configuration"
09:13 < enix> oh shit i've forgotten haproxy O.O....
09:13 < Jay-Ros> like that?
09:13 < Jay-Ros> To use a Reverse Proxy and have a site at originalsite.com appear to live at finalsite.com/blog and SEO-migrate from one to the other.
09:13 < enix> Just pretend we never discussed SEO and yeah that's about right
09:13 < Jay-Ros> https://fewerthanthree.com/tutorial/wordpress-multisite-reverse-proxy-setup-wpengine/
09:13 < enix> Thank you fellow dodger
09:14 < Jay-Ros> no worries final fantasy 7 creator namesake
09:14 < enix> what the fuck is an enix anyway
09:15 < Jay-Ros> Enix is a japanese-english bastardisation of enikkusu
09:15 < enix> Wow the more you know
09:15 < mtnielsen> it's the second half of square
09:16 < enix> Hang on
09:16 < enix> you mean fenikkusu
09:16 < enix> Which is a japanesey way of saying pheonix
09:16 < enix> phoenix*
09:16 < enix> Holy fucking full circle
09:16 < mtnielsen> Square Enix Holdings Co., Ltd. is a Japanese video game developer, publisher, and distribution company that is best known for its Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, and Kingdom Hearts role-playing video game franchises, among numerous others.
09:16 < Jay-Ros> yep, pretty much, it's a wordplay of phoenix and Eniac, the world's first digital computer
09:16 < Jay-Ros> (which could be total bullshit, but it sounds cool)
09:17 < enix> jesus fuck japan cant even have a four-letter company name without it being complicated
09:19 < enix> i get the feeling that multiple apache endpoints might be the way to go
09:19 < enix> I can mass deploy via ansible and hand-configure each domain on each front end, but keep the database in the backend
09:21 < Jay-Ros> "Our name is '3com', It's a combination of the the galaxy clusters 3C, discovered in 1974 when the creator was born, and the spiritual Om hindu sounds that his partner Ayumi enjoyed in her indian meditation"
09:21 < Jay-Ros> Multiple Apache Endpoints is my favourite tech-driven punk ska synth band of 2001
09:22 < enix> That's quite random
09:22 < Jay-Ros> yeah, I'm at the end of the day and I've ran out of moxie
09:23 < enix> thats me a 9am
09:23 < Jay-Ros> I've had coffee by 9
09:24 < enix> better than a migraine and lack of will to live
09:24 < enix> i basically said 'fuck this' and did nothing all day so i could work on my bloody business
09:24 < enix> Aaaaaand five minutes to 530, I'm fucking out of here
09:24 < Jay-Ros> but I'm running post anzac day where I was on conference calls all day because our routers went down due to memory leak, so I needed to coordinate the third party guys doing a rollback after an on-site physical reboot
09:24 < enix> laters mate will report back tomorrow with how dodgy shit goes
09:24 < Jay-Ros> no worries, keep it sleazy
09:24 < enix> Wow didnt even get to play two up?
09:25 < Jay-Ros> nope, although I was rocking a work-related hangover so I worked from my mattress
09:25 < enix> Dayum son
09:25 < enix> I'm suprised not many people headed out yesterday
09:25 < Jay-Ros> I swapped from conference calls to watching Marco Polo on netflix
09:25 < enix> Surprised and jealous tbh but yeah. Missus wanted to "keep the party going" and we stayed at the pub from 11am to fucking 7pm.
09:26 < enix> wait... 9pm.. shit
09:26 < Jay-Ros> yeowch
09:26 < Jay-Ros> 9pm I was still on calls ;)
09:26 < enix> goddamn
09:27 < enix> hahaha someone named briony jenkins
09:27 < enix> funny name
09:27 < enix> if you s/iony/ony
09:30 < enix> https://www.fiverr.com/youtubefun/sing-happy-birthday-astin-foil-man-in-just-a-thong?context=adv.cat_7.subcat_295&context_type=rating&pckg_id=1&pos=1&ref_ctx_id=0a7f5e9e-81be-4217-be4b-1dcaecf89e48&source=gallery-listing&funnel=b3ec1a40-2797-412d-9fa9-d824920880fd
09:32 < Jay-Ros> that's disturbing
09:32 < Jay-Ros> I'm out, catcha later enix
09:32 < enix> laters homie
09:35 < Gencade> wow nsfw enix
09:44 < enix> depends where tou work
10:08 < Reverend> morning geeks
10:14 <+ktechmidas> long shot... anyone had any exp with the boto library, AWS and Python?
10:33 < jumi> morning
10:35 < Atro> sup dorks
10:58 < Reverend> ktechmidas yeah
10:58 < Reverend> what's up?
11:00 < jumi> fuck yeah, no one knows where the fuck our OS licenses are
11:00 < jumi> someone bought them 3 years ago and now nobody knows if they even exist
11:00 < jumi> don't you just love it when people are so fucking incompetent?
11:03 < ihre> pfff who needs an OS anyways
11:16 < Hatsjoe> Morning
11:19 < humpaxx> Howdie friendios
11:35 < ihre> applications that dont list a price for 'enterprise' features suck. i dont wanna talk to sales just to get a fucking indication :p
11:39 < jumi> ihre: you don't want to talk to sales unless it is absolutely necessary
11:41 < ihre> jumi: yet you're (me in this case :P) being forced to contact them because their site/docs dont list anything at all, makes me not want to deal with them at all :P (auth0)
11:41 < jumi> oh well I'm forced to contact them so I can get the license data back
11:42 < jumi> because it turns out, according to my findings, that we have been running unlicensed software for three years and no one knew
11:42 < ihre> lolol
11:42 < jumi> so we either fix this ASAP or face a big, big fine
11:42 < ihre> back in spain ? :P
11:42 < jumi> good thing is, my boss is super happy that I'm unearthing all the wrongdoings of the past
11:42 < jumi> yup, back in Madrid
11:52 < ihre> til https://blog.qualys.com/ssllabs/2017/03/13/caa-mandated-by-cabrowser-forum
11:54 < meowschwitz> fucking $vendor
11:55 < meowschwitz> "we cant open this file the pfx format is invalid"
11:55 < meowschwitz> of course it is invalid you fucking douchebag, it's a zip file
11:55 < meowschwitz> with PEMs inside
11:55 < meowschwitz> "can you please convert it to pfx"
11:55 < meowschwitz> cause god forbid you'd type an openssl command yourself right
12:19 < ihre> heh tapoxi[m], i thought i was looking at your github page yesterday, just a small difference: https://github.com/topaxi/httpd-ldap-auth ;p
12:35 < rory> question about JSON terminology: Each "thing" in json is called a "json object", but what is the name for the entire outermost object? A json "document", a json "file" or something else?
12:36 < ihre> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7159#section-2 -> also an object
12:37 < ihre> "An object is an unordered collection of zero or more name/value pairs, where a name is a string and a value is a string, number, boolean, null, object, or array."
12:38 < mtnielsen> a json object
12:39 < mtnielsen> an object can hold an object holding an object holding lists of objects
12:39 < ihre> also because you mentioned json im gonna link https://github.com/simeji/jid :3
12:39 < rory> aye everything is an object
12:39 < ihre> youre an object!
12:39 < rory> but is there ALSO a special name for the overall outermost object
12:39 < rory> please don't objectify users in this channel.
12:40 < mtnielsen> rory it's called _the_ object
12:40 < rory> This is the most thought I've ever put into a variable name
12:40 < mtnielsen> jsonResult = ...
12:40 < mtnielsen> maybe ?
12:40 < mtnielsen> x = ?
12:40 < rory> json_result because we live in a society.
12:41 < ihre> its really just called an object, just check the rfc :p
12:41 < rory> OK thanks ihre
12:41 < ihre> from which i quoted that 2nd line
12:41 < ihre> .yt in bruges inanimate object
12:41 <+layer-eight> YouTube In Bruges - #8 - "You're an inanimate fucking object!" - https://youtu.be/0EZWXuCZOho
12:42 < ihre> possibly one of ralph fiennes best lines ever :3
12:45 < rory> Story time. In the AWS web console, when you add a rule to a security group, you can choose the traffic type as TCP, UDP, both, and also various shortcuts like HTTP, SSH, HTTPS, which will auto-fill the port number for you
12:45 < rory> I was on a screenshare on a conference call with ops, adding SSH access to some server
12:45 < rory> By force of habit I selected type as TCP, and port as 22
12:45 < rory> And one of the ops person on the call was making out like I was stupid and saying "I think you need to select SSH" and the whitelisting didn't work
12:46 < mtnielsen> ihre by the way, powershell can do that too, with the exploring and such
12:46 < rory> I changed it to SSH to shut them up, and in that time, the underlying application problem got resolved, and after I made the change it worked
12:46 < rory> that ops person was so fucking smug about it despite my trying to explain about networking layers
12:46 < rory> They are probably on IRC right now telling a story about how the senior dev didn't even know what SSH was
12:46 < rory> I'm still butthurt about it
12:47 < rory> Fin.
12:48 < ihre> mtnielsen: cool, didnt know that (i never use posh either)
12:48 < ihre> rory: yet another reason to not use the web console :P aws cli ++
12:48 < mtnielsen> $json = '{"moo":"foo"}' | ConvertFrom-Json
12:49 < mtnielsen> and then you have a perfectly usable powershell object to walk through
12:50 < mtnielsen> goes the other way too, Get-Service | select -first 1 | ConvertTo-Json -Compress
12:54 < ihre> ill just stick to jq/jid, i dont have any windows servers to work with anymore, nor azure
12:54 < ihre> but still good to know, saving it to my snippets dir :p
13:01 < mtnielsen> you could argue that it's going to be important once microsoft finishes embracing linux
13:01 < mtnielsen> or I suppose that would be the extend step
13:02 < estranger> msft loves linux
13:02 < mtnielsen> and they'll love it until they have made docker a fully windows-only thing
13:02 < estranger> wut
13:05 < ihre> holy fuck: "Fast support on discord" thanks for the headsup, i'll look for something else :P
13:08 < estranger> aren't all the cool kids using protobuf now instead of json anyhow? =)
13:11 < estranger> holy shit I have $440 in uber expenses heh <3 uber
13:43 < corn266> mornin all
13:55 < mijndert> good afternoon ;)
14:00 < corn266> maybe i should move to where it's afternoon
14:01 < Casteil> estranger: damn that's like 3 trips to/from denver international
14:01 < Casteil> :P
14:06 < estranger> Heh, 180 of that is to and from ord twice
14:07 < mijndert> come to The Netherlands, we have stroopwafels
14:07 < estranger> What's that in non moontalk
14:07 < mijndert> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stroopwafel
14:08 < ihre> https://blog.benjojo.co.uk/post/dns-filesystem-true-cloud-storage-dnsfs lol
14:08 < Casteil> those are the 'snacks' that are served on a lot of airplanes :P
14:08 < mijndert> KLM always has 'em on board \o/
14:08 < estranger> I'd eat em
14:09 < jumi> KLM never gave me one
14:09 < estranger> I miss peanuts on planes
14:09 < jumi> and I flew 60 times with year last year
14:09 < estranger> And smoking
14:09 < estranger> Jk, smoking flights sucked
14:09 < mijndert> and actual knives
14:09 < jumi> they always gave me the "healthy" wrap and a pasta dish
14:09 < Casteil> I don't think I've flown once in the last year lol
14:09 < Casteil> big change from the year before where I probably flew a few dozen times
14:09 < estranger> I fly a couple times a month, not bad
14:10 < Casteil> iirc last time I flew it was on the company jet which is fucking awesome
14:10 < jumi> I spent 7 months flying every week
14:10 < mijndert> company jet?! noice
14:10 < jumi> so glad I don't have to fly anymore
14:10 < Casteil> because no tsa, no shit boarding waits
14:10 < estranger> I've posted my heatmap here a few times heh
14:10 < Casteil> no having to get to the airport an hour+ early to go through security
14:10 < meowschwitz> flying sucks i dunno why you fap to it
14:10 < estranger> I got precheck, it's not bad
14:10 < jumi> flying is awesome
14:11 < Casteil> flying private is awesome*
14:11 < jumi> all the shit you have to go through before and after sucks tho
14:11 < mijndert> I bet people in the US fly a lot more than people in Europe
14:11 < estranger> The us is big
14:11 < mijndert> pretty much
14:11 < Casteil> but airfare is relatively expensive
14:11 < Casteil> or can be at least, depending where you live
14:11 < Casteil> and where you're trying to go
14:11 < mijndert> I drove from LA to Vegas and that was quite the trip, for me :P
14:12 < estranger> I drove 1300km in a straight line Tuesday, see if you can do that in your country
14:12 < mijndert> my country isn't even 1300 km across
14:12 < estranger> I have customers all over the country.. so gotta fly
14:13 < Casteil> I don't mind flying, especially if I'm getting paid for it
14:13 < estranger> And I try to go to our HQ a lot in California :D
14:13 < Casteil> it's just much nicer to fly privately lol
14:13 < meowschwitz> flying private IS awesome
14:13 < meowschwitz> charter flights? pure evil
14:13 < meowschwitz> it's like flights made out of DNS and printers
14:13 < estranger> Lol
14:13 < mijndert> lol
14:13 < estranger> Oof
14:13 < mijndert> paper jam!
14:13 < Casteil> my company owner owns a learjet :P
14:14 < estranger> Get status and pre check, it's not bad domestic
14:14 < estranger> We're a startup, no lears (yet)
14:14 < Trapdoor> Casteil, my company owner owns Bahamas
14:14 < mijndert> I need to find myself a job with flights on a company jet
14:14 < Casteil> I'd one up that but it'd be too specific and you'd be able to dox me :P
14:14 < Trapdoor> lol
14:15 < Trapdoor> Sir Roland Theodore Symonette
14:15 < Casteil> mijndert: lol, they usually try to keep it low-key
14:15 < Trapdoor> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/P1Z3ISJ_m7E/maxresdefault.jpg this fucker
14:15 < mijndert> what's low-key about a fucking learjet amirite
14:15 < Casteil> low key as in don't advertise it
14:16 < mijndert> hehe
14:16 < estranger> I'm easy to dox lol not many people with my job in my region
14:16 < estranger> Yo vinrock
14:17 < vinrock> Supdog
14:17 < estranger> You won't believe where I am unexpectedly
14:17 < Trapdoor> if your mom
14:17 < estranger> Lol
14:17 < vinrock> Jersey?
14:17 < estranger> That's expected, Trapdoor
14:18 < Trapdoor> oooh
14:18 < estranger> Vineland
14:18 < vinrock> Hah no shit, how did this come up?
14:18 < Hatsjoe> ihre: that DNSFS is some awesome shit
14:18 < mijndert> and by awesome you mean insane
14:19 < estranger> Long story short, we're going for adopting a baby that was born here yesterday :o
14:19 < vinrock> whoa!
14:19 < estranger> :boom:
14:19 < vinrock> Thats rad man, hope everything works out for you
14:19 < mijndert> awesome!
14:20 < estranger> Thx dude, it's kinda surreal
14:24 < estranger> Some dumb fuck just dumped his breakfast down my back
14:27 < Casteil> o_o
14:27 < Casteil> kinda cereal?
14:32 < aaa_> lol
14:33 < estranger> Eggs, bacon, coffee, English muffin, sausage
14:37 < Casteil> damn more than half the office is out today, so quiet
14:38 < zer0def> are you underappreciative of silence?
14:39 < Casteil> not really, it's just unusual
14:39 < Casteil> especially since I spent yesterday at our downtown office which was pretty wild
14:39 < zer0def> better make use of it before it's gone
14:40 < Casteil> had one of our satellite location's staff in for an operations meeting and yeah, quite crazy
14:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> mrnin
14:42 < aaa_> no
14:42 < zer0def> mornin' Ronald
14:43 < kezimo> o/
14:46 < tsarbomba> casteil just guaranteed himself a day full of break-fix bullshit
14:53 < asimon> Good morning my friends
14:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> asimon: morning!
15:00 < Jekotia> asimon: I'm not your friend, pal.
15:01 < asimon> Jekotia: Well I wasn't even talking to you so there
15:01  * Jekotia feels excluded
15:02 < Jekotia> Warning: softwaregroup.com is incompetent AF
15:04 < Nightcinder> some people have weird priorities
15:04 < Nightcinder> "I think the "going 50 mph in a 40 mph zone" was FAR MORE egregious than the .08 BAC, if we're going to cast stones regardless. "
15:06 < Sergio_CpE> morning guys from Florida!!
15:07 < Sergio_CpE> I am attending  meeting from several teams, info sec is announcing is buying Crowdstrike
15:08 < Sergio_CpE> anyone using it?
15:08 < Jekotia> I keep seeing "this thing is down" notifications for a location in my company I used to work at, and all I can think is "GOD DAMMIT RON, STOP TOUCHING THAT"
15:11 < aaa_> vim or nano ?
15:12 < Nightcinder> browns superbowl today boys
15:12 < Jekotia> aaa_: Depends on the use case IMO. If it's a quick edit nano, if you're actually working in a text file for several minutes probably vim
15:13 < Jekotia> We purchased Windows Server 2012 Essentials from softwaregroup.com, since we just needed something basic for running the VoiceMail server for our new SIP phones. They provided us with a product key for 2012, and a disc image for 2012 R2. Every time I told them it's wrong, they provided yet another mismatched product key when I wanted the correct disc image... Ended up having to grab it from
15:14 < Jekotia> Microsoft's eval site.
15:14 < Jekotia> And then they provided three blocked product keys in a row and refunded us. Christ.
15:14 < Jekotia> learn2retail
15:14 < mkillebrew> easy fix, install FreeBSD instead
15:16 < asimon> What's the general feeling on PDQDeploy? Seems like a pretty nice software for remote IT handling and inventory management
15:21 <+giant_it_burrit> works well
15:21 <+giant_it_burrit> what will you do for remote access
15:22 < tsarbomba> http://www.mandatory.com/culture/1408237-rick-astley-performing-never-gonna-give-200-singers-canadian-basement
15:23 < Jekotia> I question the motives of anyone that has a basement large enough for 200 people
15:23 < tsarbomba> i want to party with that person
15:23 < asimon> We haven't done any sort of remote access before, just walked to peoples desk and resolved whatever issue in person
15:24 < tsarbomba> jekotia, why wouldn't you use vi for a quick edit
15:24 < asimon> But it'd be nice to be able to manage licenses and push software updates in the background
15:25 < tsarbomba> nano objectively takes longer to load large files. it takes longer to save and quit.
15:25 < tsarbomba> i don't see the benefit
15:25 < tsarbomba> fewer keystrokes to do what you need to do in vi, even including putting it into edit mode and then escaping to save
15:25 <+AnonymooseWork> mornin fools
15:25 < tsarbomba> zero mouse clicks
15:25 < Jekotia> tsarbomba: IDK. I think I intrepreted it more as a question of "should I learn vim"?
15:25 < ihre> Yes
15:25  * AnonymooseWork yawns
15:25 < tsarbomba> the answer to that question is "yes" 100% of the time
15:26 < tsarbomba> hey anonymoose
15:26  * Jekotia still needs to learn vim
15:26  * tsarbomba down since vi was still vi
15:26 <+AnonymooseWork> sup tsarbomba
15:26 < Anaphylaxis> Anyone know anything about CrashPlan PRO?
15:26 <+AnonymooseWork> yeah i still use vi
15:26 < tsarbomba> all i know about it is that it's been around long enough and yet i've never seen it anywhere in production, which doesn't say much for it
15:27 < tsarbomba> it has its fans, but so did backupexec
15:27 <+AnonymooseWork> lol
15:27 <+AnonymooseWork> Anaphylaxis:  i'd avoid crashplan personally, but it depends on the use case i think
15:27 < Anaphylaxis> yeah it looks like shit. but 143 files have been failing every backup since September 1st 2017, llo
15:28 < Anaphylaxis> AnonymooseWork, the old IT team set it up before we came in :P
15:28 < Anaphylaxis> we use Intronis / Carbonite
15:28 < Hatter> yo waddup my n-words
15:28 < Anaphylaxis> whats up hattahhhhhhhh
15:29 < Anaphylaxis> but yeah this crashplan software looks like shit, llo
15:30 <+AnonymooseWork> lol
15:30 <+AnonymooseWork> I switched to veeam
15:31 <+AnonymooseWork> i'm tired...
15:31 <+AnonymooseWork> damn life
15:31 <+giant_it_burrit> anyone want a lol
15:31 <+giant_it_burrit> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJRsWJqDjFE
15:31 <+layer-eight> YouTube ┃ Title ↠ Rick Astley with Choir! Choir! Choir! - Never Gonna Give You Up!!! ┃ Duration ↠ 6:02 ┃ Upload Date ↠ Thu Apr 19 01:03:24 UTC 2018
15:31 < Anaphylaxis> and the backup log is 45MB and this server only has notepad fml
15:32 <+AnonymooseWork> sick kid, he's in the hospital (being released today)  yay just a cold
15:32 <+AnonymooseWork> was at work last night until almost 11pm because we installed a new UPS and facility wide generator
15:32 < rhqq> morning
15:32 <+AnonymooseWork> ended up sleeping at the hospital with the wife & kid (home is an hour away) so I didn't get much sleep
15:33 <+AnonymooseWork> is it the weekend yet?
15:34 < Anaphylaxis> 2 more days man
15:34 < abakedapplepie> https://imgur.com/DY665eE weeeee
15:34 <+giant_it_burrit> thats it?
15:34 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> AnonymooseWork, Call out tomorrow? Take a personal day?
15:34 < abakedapplepie> giant_it_burrit: lol
15:34 < Hatter> abakedapplepie: braggart
15:34 < abakedapplepie> giant_it_burrit: tech had to bring a special dongle capable of >gigabit
15:34 < abakedapplepie> hes like yeah im glad you guys are it so i dont have to argue with you about tcp overheads
15:35 <@JollyRgrs> ~940Mbps should be what you get
15:35 < abakedapplepie> they have the dongle test at line speed to prove to customers lol
15:35 <@JollyRgrs> not 7 something
15:35 < abakedapplepie> yeah we hit 920 on the test
15:35 < Sergio_CpE> @<Anaphylaxis>  Crashplan is the best thing ever
15:35 < Sergio_CpE> we used for several years, user neved had to worry about lost data
15:35 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> abakedapplepie, Man, your internet ain't even 1080p. How can you live with yourself?
15:36 < Anaphylaxis> Sergio_CpE, u wot?
15:36 < vinrock> m8?
15:36 < Anaphylaxis> the software looks like it's from 1999 and you can't even view failed files IN the software lol
15:36 <+AnonymooseWork> SysAdminGoneCraZ:  yeah I'm still at the hospital right now just waiting for kiddo to be discharged
15:36 < Anaphylaxis> Intronis looks 100x harder than it
15:36 <+AnonymooseWork> taking today
15:36 <+AnonymooseWork> then back in tomorrow
15:36 <+AnonymooseWork> so I can send my junior home early tomorrow
15:36 <+AnonymooseWork> he worked his ass off helping me last night with the new PDU wiring
15:37 < Sergio_CpE> we got rid of it last year because of $$ issues,  our users complained  a lot they loved crash plan
15:37 < Anaphylaxis> huh damn
15:37 < corn266> My work speed https://imgur.com/u4dilhY
15:37 <+AnonymooseWork> we went from 8x 1500VA UPS with a bunch of power bars and extension cables to proper 208v PDU's
15:37 < Anaphylaxis> pshh what's that, residential comcast? corn266
15:37 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> AnonymooseWork, Nice!
15:38 < corn266> Anaphylaxis: nah, my residential is 5x that
15:38 <+AnonymooseWork> SysAdminGoneCraZ:  yeah!
15:38 < Anaphylaxis> corn266, same, i get 300/12 :P
15:38 < vinrock> what kinda ups is the new one(s)?
15:38 < Anaphylaxis> running a speedtest on my work rn
15:38 <+AnonymooseWork> Symmetra 16kva UPS and 4x APC 8858 NA-3 PDU
15:38 < corn266> fuck those upload speeds though Anaphylaxis, can't share linux ISO files fast enough
15:38 < vinrock> nice ive got the small symmetra rm here
15:38 < Anaphylaxis> i know it's bullshit isn't it corn266? trying to get my seed ratio up man :PP
15:38 < Anaphylaxis> corn266, https://i.imgur.com/TJAOVVL.png
15:39 < corn266> not bad, guessing 50-100 people in your company?
15:39 <+AnonymooseWork> we pulled out so much crap
15:39 <+AnonymooseWork> cables snaked everywhere
15:40 <+AnonymooseWork>  It was NASTY
15:40 <+AnonymooseWork> fucking fire hazard
15:41 <+AnonymooseWork> one of our KVM consoles never worked properly, so we decided to pull it out while we had the maintenance window
15:41 <+AnonymooseWork> the power cable was frayed and almost shorting out against the management arm!
15:41 <+AnonymooseWork> un f'n  believeable
15:41 <+TuxedoJack> 300 / 12? Ew
15:41 <+AnonymooseWork> anyway i gotta run
15:42 <+TuxedoJack> http://www.speedtest.net/result/7260429129
15:43 < Anaphylaxis> corn266, around 30. It's a startup :p
15:43 < Anaphylaxis> TuxedoJack, welcome to USA :/
15:43 < Anaphylaxis> In UK I got like 32/10 and my internet was baaad lol
15:44 < Anaphylaxis> dam son, can you lend me some bandwidth @TuxedoJack
15:46 <@Code_Man65> Bah, I laugh at your upload:  https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gjdKjuHEbzo/Wt-EK02-g_I/AAAAAAAAGdA/83DrDjfRry0iTUHDLgd9QaQ3kYUSDClLQCL0BGAYYCw/h504/2018-04-24.png
15:47 < corn266> totally shopped, i can tell by the way it is
15:47 < vinrock> im gona be moving us to fios soon, they got 980/980 service here.
15:48 <+TuxedoJack> Anaphylaxis: ATX, that's why I have that. If I move two exits down, I can get Gigapower
15:48 <+TuxedoJack> For $40 less a month
15:48 < Anaphylaxis> TuxedoJack, the fuuu so I'm moving to Texas, uhhh...
15:48 < Sousapro> did someone say Austin
15:49  * Sousapro starts throwing resumes at TuxedoJack 
15:50 < Anaphylaxis> tuxedo i just sent my resume
15:55 < DomLS3> pfsense
15:55 < felda> B E G O N E  T H O T
15:57 < syere> oh! Felda! I had a random pfsense question for you
15:57 < felda> esnesfp
15:57 < felda> shoot
15:57 < DomLS3> TuxedoJack: I see your speedtest and raise you
15:57 < felda> My body is ready for this question
15:57 < DomLS3> https://i.imgur.com/dX0d5ee.jpg
15:57 < syere> supposedly if meraki actually sends it, im getting a free security device from them. Supposedly you can load pfsense on it. Have you heard anything about this?
15:57 < DomLS3> pfsense
15:57 < felda> syere I haven't.  what kind of device is it?
15:57 < DomLS3> pfsense
15:58 < DomLS3> Code_Man65 laggy af today
15:58 < syere> let me get you a link
15:58 <@Code_Man65> I'm working on building a DSC configuration that will also build an MSA before install SQL Server and then use that MSA in the SQL install
15:58 < felda> I have side loaded pfsense onto a Watchguard Firebox before so it probably could be done
15:59 < DomLS3> felda: good job on making the watchguard worse
15:59 < syere> felda, pretty sure it was this one: https://meraki.cisco.com/products/appliances/mx64
16:01 < tsarbomba> isn't "pastrami reuben" redundant
16:01 < vinrock> yes
16:01 < tsarbomba> thought so
16:02 < Hatter> How do you guys feel about LTSB these days? Is it going away? Should I put it on these little all-in-one devices for the grunts to use?
16:03 < Sergio_CpE> LTSB is the way to go.....no feature updates to worry about
16:03 < Hatter> what about security patches though
16:03 <+TuxedoJack> DomLS3: you fucker. Gigapower or GFiber, or proper fiber?
16:04 < Sergio_CpE> I understand  you can only get it with a volume licence, and pay a premium for it
16:04 <+TuxedoJack> Sousapro, Anaphylaxis: please do, I need competent people woprking for me
16:04 < DomLS3> TuxedoJack: AT&T fiber
16:04 < Hatter> Sergio_CpE: I have volume licensing, are you saying they'll charge me a premium on top of that?
16:04 < Sergio_CpE> Feature updates is different  than Security patches which you will keep getting
16:04 < DomLS3> TuxedoJack: $75 a month :D
16:04 < Nightcinder> tfw brewed kcup without putting mug under
16:05 < DomLS3> Nightcinder: rekt
16:05 < Anaphylaxis> TuxedoJack, lol I'm a 17 year old who just got my first real IT job sooo probably the opposite of me ;D
16:05 <+TuxedoJack> DomLS3: Yeah,. I know. I was looking at the Bexley Lakeline complex here - they have it wired to the unit, and were built specifically with FTTU in mind
16:06 <+TuxedoJack> Considering every goddamn building is built for it
16:08 < Sergio_CpE> https://www.howtogeek.com/273824/windows-10-without-the-cruft-windows-10-ltsb-explained/
16:09 <@JollyRgrs> Hatter: ltsb should be used in place of those you used to use winCE or windows embedded
16:09 <+giant_it_burrit> well i didnt do that lololololol
16:10 <+giant_it_burrit> ltsb for all my users
16:13 < Hatter> JollyRgrs: well I run a casino, I wanted to put it on the little all-in-one devices they use on the blackjack tables and such
16:14 < tsarbomba> < Hatter> JollyRgrs: well I run a casino
16:14 < tsarbomba> lolwat
16:15 < tsarbomba> hatter's indian name is geeksquad lionfist
16:15 < tsarbomba> he is owner, ceo, head pit boss, accountant, and primary systems admin for the standing bear casino
16:16 <@JollyRgrs> Hatter: that's one place it might be a good idea
16:16 <@JollyRgrs> that's also a place i'd use windows embedded previously
16:17 < tsarbomba> the cardcounter 9000
16:19 < Hatter> I don't work for indians
16:19 < Hatter> also on that note, and I don't mean to sound racist, but can native americans grow beards?
16:19 < Hatter> I don't think I've ever seen a bearded native american
16:19 < Hatter> I can't even picture it
16:20 < abakedapplepie> well
16:20 < abakedapplepie> rip ford
16:20 < abakedapplepie> no more fusion or focus
16:20 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> abakedapplepie, Yeap
16:20 <+TuxedoJack> abakedapplepie: yeah, no kidding. Or Fiesta
16:20 <+TuxedoJack> Christ
16:21 < abakedapplepie> and here i was sad they axed the RS
16:21 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> abakedapplepie, I read that while on the toilet this morning.
16:21 < abakedapplepie> sheesh
16:21 <+TuxedoJack> Fuck this fucking SUV shit
16:21 < abakedapplepie> TuxedoJack: idk bout you but i will take a bronco
16:21 < abakedapplepie> but id rather have my hot hatches
16:21 <+TuxedoJack> abakedapplepie: give me a Focus or Fiesta any day. MPG matters for me
16:21 < abakedapplepie> i have an svt in the garage and an explorer in the parking lot
16:21 < abakedapplepie> i subject myself to both sides of pain
16:22 <+TuxedoJack> I've got my 2010 CVPI in the driveway
16:22 <+TuxedoJack> And god DAMN, that's a car
16:22 < Hatter> let's not get the car talk started you guys
16:22 < Hatter> boring
16:22 < Hatter> let's go back to my issue of native americans and beards
16:22 <+TuxedoJack> Hatter: TOO LATE
16:22 <+TuxedoJack> https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510208/car-talk
16:22 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Hatter, Reddit to the rescue: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskAnthropology/comments/2mw2km/when_i_watch_movies_with_native_americans_i_never/
16:23 < Hatter> I could have googled it to
16:23 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Hatter, lol
16:23 < Hatter> but sometimes I like to be left in wonder, it's so hard these days
16:24 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Hatter, Yeah, tell me about it. Back in the day, Blue Waffles were the greatest mysteries ever. Google ruined the wonder.
16:24 <+TuxedoJack> SysAdminGoneCraZ: here's one. Why do hot dogs come in packs of 10 and buns in packs of 8?
16:24 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> TuxedoJack, They still do that?! I thought they fixed that!?
16:25 < tsarbomba> man people haaaaaate brasero
16:25 < tsarbomba> you'd think the developers raped their moms or something
16:25 < Hatter> what are blue waffles
16:25 <+TuxedoJack> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUYJYoqINVM
16:25 <+layer-eight> YouTube ┃ Title ↠ Animaniacs - 20 Years and Still Left Unanswered ┃ Duration ↠ 25s ┃ Upload Date ↠ Thu Feb 06 09:18:17 UTC 2014
16:26 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> TuxedoJack, lol Nice
16:26 < DomLS3> TuxedoJack: I see your CVPI and raise you: https://i.imgur.com/NXCFsYc.jpg
16:26 < corn266> Jesus, not attempting to be political, but the phone call into Fox and Friends by US Pres is crazy. He's fucking foaming yelling about dems
16:27 < tsarbomba> hot dogs come in packs of 10?
16:27 < corn266> DomLS3: is that yours?
16:27 < DomLS3> corn266: yes
16:27 < corn266> Can I borrow it for the weekend
16:27 < tsarbomba> corn266 someone was live tweeting it earlier
16:27 < tsarbomba> i nearly drove off the road laughing
16:27 < DomLS3> corn266: $500 a day
16:27 < DomLS3> :D
16:28 < Sousapro> has anyone deployed windows admin center yet?
16:28 < corn266> I'll give you $0.05 a day
16:28 < Sousapro> (was called project honolulu before)
16:28 < DomLS3> corn266: pass
16:28 < corn266> to the left
16:29 < felda> Just a reminder.  We're all a little user on the inside.
16:30 < DrGibby|> felda++
16:30 <+TuxedoJack> DomLS3: Jesus fuck
16:30 <+TuxedoJack> Drool
16:30 <+TuxedoJack> I've got 2 months until the CVPI is paid off
16:30 <@JollyRgrs> Sousapro: i've not yet... it looks like it is more for smb or where you don't have many servers
16:30 <@JollyRgrs> does it have any place in a larger enterprise?
16:31 <+TuxedoJack> Already thinking about a new car. Was looking at a Fiesta hatchback, but now... seriously considering a used Caddy instead
16:31 < felda> Want to do search.  In chrome just type Google.  Brings up google search.  Click top Google.com link.  Face palm at how retardo I just was.
16:31 < Nightcinder> in chrome you don't have to type google..
16:31 < felda> I know
16:31 < Nightcinder> just start typing your search and hit enter
16:31 < felda> which is why it was so dumb
16:32 < felda> It was a "User Moment"
16:33 < vinrock> tuxedojack:  cts-v is calling your name
16:33 < vinrock> doo eet
16:35 <+TuxedoJack> vinrock: eh, I'm more of a Sedan DeVille fan, so whatever they replaced that with will do well
16:35 < DomLS3> TuxedoJack: The Ford Taurus SHO is nice
16:35 < DomLS3> pretty quick too
16:35 < DomLS3> 350hp
16:35 < vinrock> but
16:35 < vinrock> it's a taurus
16:35 < vinrock> :|
16:36 < Sousapro> JollyRgrs: it will let you manage all of your servers and azure in one pane of glass
16:36 < DomLS3> he just mentioned a fiesta,,, I don't think he's worried about it lol
16:36 < Sousapro> JollyRgrs: supposed to effectively replace server manager entirely
16:36 <+TuxedoJack> vinrock: Fuck Tauruses, honestly, APD uses them, and I get enough shit for the CVPI
16:36 < vinrock> yeah i was bout to say
16:36 < vinrock> the one redeeming quality other than the 350hp is that people might think you're a cop and give space
16:36 < khelpw> Used/Off lease Chevy SS imo
16:37 < khelpw> IDK what the budget is, but I saw SHO being mentioned
16:37 <+TuxedoJack> vinrock: eh, Honestly, I'm thinking the XTS
16:37 < vinrock> meh the ss wasn't well rounded til the 2016 model
16:37 < vinrock> theyre still kinda pricey
16:37 < khelpw> Fuck well rounded.
16:37 < vinrock> ok leme rephrase
16:37 < vinrock> the pre-2016 handles like shit
16:37 < vinrock> er
16:37 < vinrock> rides like shit
16:37 < khelpw> Tub it, gut it, supercharger + nitrous.
16:37 < vinrock> hah
16:37 < khelpw> take peoples money
16:37 < vinrock> this i approve
16:37 < khelpw> some fat slicks out back
16:38 <+TuxedoJack> Strip out the OnStar shit and remove any and all connectivity to the net short of via OBDII / Bluetooth, add a few mods to make it a viable Bond-style vehicle...
16:38 < vinrock> cts-v wagon tho
16:38 < vinrock> aw man
16:38 < khelpw> the Vs actually hold their value way better than the SS
16:38 < khelpw> but they've been around longer, so older ones are available
16:38 < khelpw> wagons (especially in manual) doubly so.
16:38 < vinrock> i think its because 'purists' dont like that it's a holden in drag
16:38 < Hatter> come on guys
16:39 < DrGibby|> disgusting, Hatter
16:39 <+TuxedoJack> Gotta wonder about the legality of adding weapon mods to cars, though
16:39 < tsarbomba> is there any truth to the rumor that millerboss quit his job so he could listen to his 1970s-80s steve miller band records 7 days a week
16:39 < Hatter> DrGibby|: oh REAL mature
16:39 < DrGibby|> leave that out of a professional IRC channel
16:39 <+giant_it_burrit> get the ss
16:39 <+giant_it_burrit> its the sedan we deserve
16:39 <+giant_it_burrit> and the one i want
16:39 <+TuxedoJack> Say, a cabin-controlled .22 that you can aim from the touchscreen
16:39 <+TuxedoJack> Or a bumper-mounted box full of spiky balls that you can release behind you
16:40 <+TuxedoJack> Caltrops, that's the word
16:40 < vinrock> oh snap i thnk you could beat federal reg on full auto fire if you make the cargun voice activated
16:40 < tsarbomba> there's a federal reg on full-auto fire?
16:40 < vinrock> well the definition of 'full auto fire'
16:40 <+TuxedoJack> Or even high-powered YAG lasers out the bumper in the trunk compartment
16:40 < vinrock> the wording says multiple rounds with single trigger pull i think
16:40 < tsarbomba> i can shoot faster and more accurately in semi-auto anyway
16:41 < vinrock> so voice activated would be no trigger pull
16:41 <+TuxedoJack> vinrock: you're still activating a trigger pull mechanism
16:41 <+TuxedoJack> Go Metal Storm, that eliminates it entirely
16:41 < vinrock> but you're not pulling a trigger
16:41  * tsarbomba prepares his "thoughts and prayers" twitter posts to go out when vinrock shoots up the nearest school
16:41 < vinrock> HI FBI HES JUST KIDDING
16:42 < tsarbomba> what's the worst the fbi will do, anyway? they'll take your guns and give them to your dad.
16:42 <+TuxedoJack> HEYOOOOOOOOOOO
16:42 < tsarbomba> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-waffle-house-shooting-suspect-morton-20180423-story.html
16:43 < Sousapro> s/guns/dad
16:43 <+layer-eight> tsarbomba meant: "what's the worst the fbi will do, anyway? they'll take your dad and give them to your dad."
16:43 < vinrock> that's meta af
16:43 < voice> I thought they just ignore it
16:43 < voice> isn't that what happened with the past few big incidents?
16:43 < vinrock> pretty much
16:43 < vinrock> got bigger things to worry about
16:43 < tsarbomba> parkland: they ignored it. waffle house: the state police took the kids guns multiple times. dear ol' dad gave 'em back.
16:43 < vinrock> like RUSSIA AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
16:43 < tsarbomba> so that's kind of like ignoring.
16:44 < tsarbomba> s/kids/kid's
16:44 <+layer-eight> tsarbomba meant: "parkland: they ignored it. waffle house: the state police took the kid's guns multiple times. dear ol' dad gave 'em back."
16:47 < tsarbomba> tfw "gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.media-handling automount" comes back "false" but the system still tries to automount blank dvds
16:47 < AnimalFarmPig> TuxedoJack: I bought a Fiesta ST a couple weeks ago. Most fun car I've owned since I bought a NA Miata in the late 90's.
16:48 < tsarbomba> oh dear
16:48 < tsarbomba> oh dearie dear
16:48 < tsarbomba> someone put this guy in a V6 pronto. he'll cream his shorts.
16:48 < AnimalFarmPig> my Saab is faster
16:48 < AnimalFarmPig> but the Fiesta is fun
16:48 < tsarbomba> yeah and my race car would leave your POS saab in the dust before i shift out of first. what's your point
16:49 < AnimalFarmPig> fast != fun
16:49 < tsarbomba> the fuck you say
16:49 < tsarbomba> fast == fun
16:49 < AnimalFarmPig> meh
16:49 < tsarbomba> it takes big giant berls to take a turn at 125mph
16:49 <@JollyRgrs> tsarbomba: it takes good suspension and tires to go 125 on a turn
16:49 < tsarbomba> word
16:49 < tsarbomba> none of which a fiesta or miata have
16:50 < tsarbomba> the miata would probably bottom out from the drag at 90
16:50 < tsarbomba> i don't think a fiesta has ever seen the north side of 85mph
16:50 < AnimalFarmPig> both are false. I tend to drive fast on highway...
16:50 < tsarbomba> speaking of which i have some adjustments to make this weekend
16:50 < Heresiarch> fast ⊆ fun
16:51 < tsarbomba> are those texas highways still 80mph or whatever
16:51 < AnimalFarmPig> in any case, for a car that you drive every day on public roads, Fiesta is super fun
16:51 < Anaphylaxis> I have been looking at trading my eclipse for a Fiesta ST.
16:51 < AnimalFarmPig> the ones around me are 70-75
16:51 < tsarbomba> you guys love your 4 bangers, eh
16:51 < Anaphylaxis> my eclipse is a v6 c:
16:51 < vinrock> i dont want anything with less than 8 cylinders
16:52 < tsarbomba> i had a buddy who bought a dodge stratus 2door. it was a rebadged eclipse with different body panels. even said "mitsubishi" on the inside of the doors
16:52 < Anaphylaxis> rofl
16:52 < tsarbomba> itw as a 4 banger so he added a whole bunch of eclipse performance parts to it from the internet
16:52 < L3gacy> hail.  sleet even
16:52 < vinrock> no shit i didnt know the stratus was still dsm era
16:52 < tsarbomba> unfortunately his dumb ass totaled the car driving wasted
16:52 < tsarbomba> it was a fun little 4 banger though, for a while
16:53 < vinrock> the 90's eclipse gsx was pretty rad
16:53 < vinrock> rare af tho
16:53 < Markisking> WRX > all
16:53 < tsarbomba> i helped him install most of it. we ended up pulling an additional 20hp out of it, naturally-aspirated
16:53 < JFDkthx> goooooood morning
16:53 < AnimalFarmPig> the first gen gsx was super cool
16:53 < tsarbomba> lol. i love smoking wrx's
16:53 < AnimalFarmPig> love that styling
16:54 < tsarbomba> want to see a wrx owner become suicidal? blow him up on the track with an unbadged SHO
16:54 < JFDkthx> do you like the sho?
16:54 < vinrock> does the wrx still have like zero bottom end
16:54 < vinrock> i havent driven one since they hit 300hp
16:54 < tsarbomba> the old SHO, before it turned into a heavy pig-creature
16:54 < badsnappa> Get-GPO -Domain forestRoot|%{$_.TargetName -like "*DeveloperUser" -and $_.TargetName -notlike "z*"}|%{Copy-GPO -SourceGuid $_.Id -TargetName $_.DisplayName -TargetDomain newChildDomain.forestRoot -CopyACL}   ... that's made my day.
16:54 < vinrock> badsnappa
16:54 < vinrock> bad
16:55 < khelpw> tsarbomba: WRXs are good autox cars, not great on an actual track without significant work
16:55 < khelpw> they're all about the low end torque and silly amounts of grip
16:55 < khelpw> Even then though, You've gotta do some small things like some beefy af sway bars to dial down the inherent understeer that is a result of hanging the engine so far in front
16:56 < AnimalFarmPig> one of my coworkers owns a pair of first gen SHO's. He says his new Transit Connect handles and stops better. :P
16:56 < vinrock> conan o'brian is an sho aficionado
16:57 < tsarbomba> you definitely have to swap out the suspension, first thing taurus owners who do SHO conversions do.
16:57 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, they were cool cars
16:57 < vinrock> .yt conan sho
16:57 <+layer-eight> YouTube Conan Insures His Most Prized Possession  - CONAN on TBS - https://youtu.be/BoypGPXYYcE
16:57 < tsarbomba> has anyone else basically ignored conan since he moved to tbs
16:58 < abakedapplepie> https://mibid.bidcorp.com/auctions/sunfire-x4150-server-offsite-livonia-mi-48152/56104 well thats neat
16:58 < tsarbomba> he's still funny. it's just...non-basketball tbs programming
16:58 < vinrock> i dont really watch tv i just catch his short clips on yt
16:58 < khelpw> vinrock: RE: no bottom end - like most turbo cars 1-2k is gonna be dull, at this point though modern twin scrolls etc can hit full boost (especially small ones like the WRX) by 2500 RPM easy
16:58 < tsarbomba> the only way i even remember where tbs is on the dial is looking up basketball listings
16:59 < tsarbomba> anyone here mod their prius so it runs 11 second quarter miles?
17:01 < Hatter> what's the name of that cool active directory health check report thing
17:02 < JFDkthx> snt it ad health check
17:02 < Hatter> anyone else
17:03 < officerrando> like MS tools?
17:04 < Hatter> no it's something else
17:04 <@JollyRgrs> tsarbomba: what? TBS used to be on my dial all the time. 28 was WGN, 29 was TBS and they both played Saved By The Bell re-runs at the same time slot right after school
17:04 <@JollyRgrs> :P
17:05 < Hatter> JollyRgrs what am I thinking about?
17:05 <@JollyRgrs> Hatter: kelly kapowski's boobs?
17:06 < officerrando> mmm, kelly.
17:06 < Hatter> well now I am
17:06 <+TuxedoJack> Eh
17:06 <+TuxedoJack> Topanga.
17:06 < officerrando> Hatter: https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/ie/en-US/dbfba096-5544-4f3d-8859-ae405c18d489/ad-check-health?forum=winserverDS
17:07 < tsarbomba> jollyrgrs back then i don't think we had cable
17:07  * tsarbomba grew up dirt poor
17:07 < Hatter> there's some third party tool that gives you a nice report about everything wrong with your AD environment
17:07 < tsarbomba> hatter, dcdiag?
17:07 < tsarbomba> or ad best practice analyzer?
17:08 < tsarbomba> third party, eh? probably never used it
17:08 < officerrando> https://www.quest.com/products/active-administrator-for-active-directory-health/
17:08 < Hatter> no not that tsar
17:08 < Hatter> nor that
17:08 < Hatter> come on guys
17:08 < tsarbomba> dcdiag doesn't give a nice report but it is pretty comprehensive
17:09 < Hatter> well I'll look into that but still
17:09 < Hatter> I really want to know what I'm thinking of
17:09 <@JollyRgrs> Hatter: oh! you mean OpenLDAP? /s
17:09 < Hatter> well of course not
17:10 < Heresiarch> s/OpenLDAP/389-DS/
17:10 <+layer-eight> JollyRgrs meant: "Hatter: oh! you mean 389-DS? /s"
17:10 < officerrando> try this: http://bfy.tw/Hqm1
17:11 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> officerrando, I tried it. Gave me 404.
17:12 < officerrando> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=3rd+party+active+directory+health+tool
17:13 < DrGibby|> how about not being a dick, officerrando?
17:13 < Nightcinder> he's an officer
17:13 < Nightcinder> can't not be a dick
17:14 < officerrando> ^^
17:14 < DrGibby|> Nightcinder: I'm sure its just him being an autist
17:15 < DrGibby|> or her, doesn't matter
17:15 <@JollyRgrs> the thing is... autists have a hard time expressing themselves, unlike an artist
17:15 < DrGibby|> you're right, JollyRgrs
17:16 < officerrando> when did this channel get so touchy? lol
17:20 <@JollyRgrs> touchy?
17:20 <@JollyRgrs> stop being a dick officerrando, no one here is being touchy
17:20 <@JollyRgrs> don't touch me!
17:20 <@JollyRgrs> BRO!
17:21 < DrGibby|> lol apparently people are touchy then they call others out for being a dickhead
17:21 < DrGibby|> a+ logic there
17:21 < Blossy> So I wanted to get your opinions on something. A customer of ours are now being charged £3 per month, per line for Anti-Fraud / Anti-Hack cover for their VOIP Services. Which seems kinda silly to me. Is that a normal industry standard thing?
17:22 < officerrando> yeah. as if half of our jobs isn't googling shit we don't know
17:22 < DrGibby|> Blossy: I've not heard of that before, certainly doesn't mean it common though
17:22 < meowschwitz> Blossy: if someone breaks into your PBX and does $5000 in fraud calls overseas will that cover it?
17:22 < officerrando> after a handful of suggestions, a light-hearted point to google is suddenly being a dick. yes, that's being touchy.
17:22 < meowschwitz> cause if it wont then it's just a scam
17:22 < Jekotia> Looking for product suggestions as I've never had to shop for servers before... Need a 2-4 core, 16GB system with hot-swappable drives for Windows Server 2016. Inexpensive preferred. The system is being used exclusively as as a voice mail server for the SIP install coming up in a few weeks, so reliability is more important than power.
17:23 < Jekotia> Any particular brands to avoid, even?
17:23 < vinrock> i like supermicro
17:23 < Blossy> meowschwitz There is no on-site PBX.
17:23 < meowschwitz> Jekotia: get an old supermicro, load hyperv on it and run 2016 in a vm
17:23 < DrGibby|> officerrando: how about just saying "look up xyz tool" instead of a failed attempt to being funny using lmgtfy
17:23 < Blossy> It's a Hosted Telephony Service / VOIP
17:23 < meowschwitz> Blossy: so exactly what is the function of this 'service'
17:23 < vinrock> https://www.siliconmechanics.com
17:23 < vinrock> thats where i buy my servers from
17:23 < JFDkthx> DrGibby|: since when did you become a hatter impersonator
17:24 < DrGibby|> I think you have it backwards
17:24 < Hatter> DrGibby|: careful
17:24 < DrGibby|> Hatter tries to impersonate me
17:24 < Hatter> see I was hoping to avoid you saying something like that
17:24 < JFDkthx> both of you are acting like twats
17:24  * meowschwitz reaches for the flush lever
17:25 < Blossy> https://www.4com.co.uk/anti-hacking-protection/
17:25 < Hatter> I still need the name of that AD report tool you guys
17:25 < Blossy> meowschwitz:
17:25 < Blossy> Check out this dodgy opt-out form: https://www.4com.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Anti-Fraud-Protection-Opt-Out-Form.pdf
17:29 < meowschwitz> Blossy: that's remarkably scammy
17:29 < meowschwitz> > Cover for up to £10,000 worth of fraudulent calls in any one month.
17:30 < tsarbomba> >worried about fraud
17:30 < tsarbomba> >downloads form requiring personal information from wordpress site
17:31 < Hatter> I feel like maybe it had ping in the name for some reason?
17:31 < meowschwitz> I am still not entirely sure what exactly they consider 'fraudulent calls'
17:31 < meowschwitz> cause it sounds like they are selling insurance without letting have you a copy of the policy
17:32 < Hatter> PINGCASTLE
17:32 < Hatter> It was called Pingcastle!
17:32 < Hatter> how did none of you get that
17:32 < Hatter> sheesh
17:33 < meowschwitz> https://www.4com.co.uk/careers/sales-advisor/
17:33 < meowschwitz> > £20,000 + Audi A1 + Uncapped commission up to £60K
17:33 < meowschwitz> I am beginning to think scamming is fundamental for this operation
17:34 < tsarbomba> s/this operation/the economy of india, russia, and bangladesh
17:34 <+layer-eight> meowschwitz meant: "I am beginning to think scamming is fundamental for the economy of india, russia, and bangladesh"
17:34 < meowschwitz> s/fundamental for//
17:34 <+layer-eight> meowschwitz meant: "I am beginning to think scamming is  the economy of india, russia, and bangladesh"
17:34 < tsarbomba> shots fired
17:34 < meowschwitz> tsarbomba: I win
17:34 < Hatter> has anyone here been bold enough to roll out LTSB for all users/desktops?
17:34 < tsarbomba> someone said they did earlier
17:35 <+TuxedoJack> USER: I rebooted my phone and now it's flashing like it's possessed.
17:35 <+TuxedoJack> ME: Right, so I'll send an old tech and a young tech.
17:35 < tsarbomba> <+giant_it_burrit> ltsb for all my users
17:35 < tsarbomba> THE POWER OF 4G COMPELS YOU
17:35 <+giant_it_burrit> i did
17:35 < Hatter> Seriously though guys, check out Pingcastle for AD auditing, let me know if you have something better
17:35 <+giant_it_burrit> i use logs
17:35 <+TuxedoJack> tsarbomba: it's a T46G powered off PoE, so I'm not surprised it's fucked
17:36 < tsarbomba> oh damn it was funnier in my head as a cell phone
17:36 < tsarbomba> if it's sip it probably just lost its registration
17:36 <+TuxedoJack> 802.11AT COMPELS YOU!
17:36 < tsarbomba> or poe
17:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> TuxedoJack: say that 10 times fast
17:39 < DrGibby|> 802.11AT COMPELS YOU! 802.11AT COMPELS YOU! 802.11AT COMPELS YOU! 802.11AT COMPELS YOU! 802.11AT COMPELS YOU! 802.11AT COMPELS YOU! 802.11AT COMPELS YOU! 802.11AT COMPELS YOU! 802.11AT COMPELS YOU! 802.11AT COMPELS YOU!
17:41 < arlion> DrGibby|: bant
17:41 < DrGibby|> D:
17:42 < Wannabejrsysadm> boyssss
17:42 < Wannabejrsysadm> any good recommondation for a log server
17:42 < Wannabejrsysadm> I want to centralize my switch logs
17:43 <+TuxedoJack> Something from BLammo
17:43 < Hatter> Wannabejrsysadm: graylog or elk
17:43 < Wannabejrsysadm> what about SPLUNK ?
17:43 <+TuxedoJack> After all, their stuff rolls down stairs in singles and pairs
17:43 < Hatter> Wannabejrsysadm: splunk is a bit dear at high volumes
17:43 <+TuxedoJack> Rolls over the neighbor's dog
17:43 < Heresiarch> Wannabejrsysadm: syslog-ng, with elk/graylog for searching.
17:43 <+TuxedoJack> Fits on your back, it's great for a snack
17:43 <+TuxedoJack> It's log, log, log
17:43 < Wannabejrsysadm> we run about 25 VMs, 3 hosts and about 15 switches
17:43 < Wannabejrsysadm> I saw SPLUNK was free at 500 MB / day
17:44 < DrGibby|> I wouldn't use splunk unless you like spending money
17:44 < Wannabejrsysadm> I don't think we will reach that limit ?
17:44 < Jekotia> Wannabejrsysadm: This is probably your best choice for someone to serve logs https://www.50-best.com/funny_nerd_memes/pics/captains_log.htm I don't know if he's available though
17:44 < Blossy> https://twitter.com/m8urnett/status/989524199898136579/photo/1
17:44 < DrGibby|> I think you'll be surprised at the amount of logs those devices will send
17:44 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Wannabejrsysadm, Nah, you're good homie! Splunk away!
17:44 < Wannabejrsysadm> SysAdminGoneCraZ is that sarcasm ? :P
17:45 < ihre> just to be sure i'd check what it'll cost you if you go over the 500mb/day limit
17:45 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Wannabejrsysadm, Yeah lol But, I mean, it really depends on how much you want to log.
17:45 < Wannabejrsysadm> I could start of with splunk free, and see hwo much data i'm getting
17:45 < ihre> and what the limitations are besides 500meg on the free tier
17:45 < DrGibby|> you can always try it and see if its under the limit, but an option like what Hatter said might be an option too
17:45 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Wannabejrsysadm, Exactly
17:45 < ihre> but graylog (or elk, bah) are great alternatives imo
17:45 < DrGibby|> ^^
17:45 < Wannabejrsysadm> I'm looking into splunk because it seems easier to setup / maintain
17:46 < Wannabejrsysadm> my IT manager isn't so technical
17:46 < ihre> or sumologic
17:46 < Wannabejrsysadm> and when I will leave
17:46 < Wannabejrsysadm> he won't be able to maintain it :p
17:46 < Heresiarch> Wannabejrsysadm: that's relatively likely no matter the solution. Centralized logs can require a fair bit of care/feeding.
17:46 < ihre> how is that your problem?
17:46 < ihre> :D
17:47 < Wannabejrsysadm> Heresiarch i'l start of with only my switches
17:47 < Heresiarch> Wannabejrsysadm: dun't matter.
17:47 < Jekotia> Heresiarch: You have to FEED your logs? God dammit, that explains why mine keep breaking.
17:47 < Wannabejrsysadm> you feed them with nachos
17:47 < Wannabejrsysadm> but aight thanks for the recommondations boyz
17:47 < Jekotia> s/breaking/splitting
17:47 <+layer-eight> Jekotia meant: "Heresiarch: You have to FEED your logs? God dammit, that explains why mine keep splitting."
17:48 < Wannabejrsysadm> i'l look into splunk / graylog / elk
17:48 < Heresiarch> Jekotia: yup. Special food. And single-malt whisky every day for them to drink.
17:49 < ihre> Wannabejrsysadm: check sumologic too, also 500m free, but its more focussed towards log anomaly detection, which is pretty neat
17:49 < ihre> i guess splunk has the same though
17:49 < ihre> graylog/elk, not so much
17:49 < Wannabejrsysadm> aight aight :)  thnx
17:50 < Hatter> does graylog have a dark theme mode yet for dashboards?
17:50 < ihre> no, just pink with gorillas
17:51 < Hatter> why is it even called gray
17:51 < dragonfleas> woke up very early this morning to get an early start at work
17:51 < dragonfleas> ended up late because i had to take an hour long poop
17:51 < dragonfleas> feelsbadman
17:51 < Hatter> ewww!
17:51 < aaa_> this stuff really work or no?
17:51 < aaa_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRmMkiTB_uE
17:51 < Wannabejrsysadm> dragonfleas woke up early this morning, found out my bike broke
17:51 <+layer-eight> YouTube ┃ Title ↠ Triple Your Internet Speed for Free ┃ Duration ↠ 6:40 ┃ Upload Date ↠ Fri Jun 14 23:01:16 UTC 2013
17:51 < Wannabejrsysadm> had to walk 35 minutes to the train station
17:51 < Wannabejrsysadm> missed my train
17:51 < dragonfleas> Wannabejrsysadm, oooof
17:52 < ravioli> what broke on it?
17:52 < ihre> triple your internet speed for free, sounds like clickbait ?
17:52 < ihre> you Know its not true :P
17:52 < vinrock> how did you poop for an hour
17:52 < Wannabejrsysadm> ravioli I want too ham on my bike and my spokes broke
17:52 < vinrock> and how do you not have a pink sock now
17:52 < dragonfleas> "electrical tape conducts electricity"
17:52 < dragonfleas> vinrock, i did i had to shove it back in :/
17:53 < ravioli> Wannabejrsysadm: i, too, want ham.
17:53 < vinrock> thats pretty rugged
17:53 < vinrock> h5
17:53 < Wannabejrsysadm> went* ravioli :P
17:53 < Hatter> I've been adverse to pork lately, and I'm not sure why
17:53 < dragonfleas> Wannabejrsysadm, take it to a bike shop
17:53 < dragonfleas> bike shops fix for cheap
17:53 < ravioli> or just fix it
17:53 < ihre> Hatter: involuntarily converstion to islam
17:53 < ravioli> ...or replace the wheel.
17:53 < ihre> you'll never know
17:54 < ravioli> ...or take it to a bike shop :p
17:54 < mal_will> realization their eyes look like human eyes
17:54 < Wannabejrsysadm> dragonfleas no :(  they already broke previously but my wheel was also bend a lill bit, they just fixed the spokes, but now my wheel is even more bend and more spokes are out so I guess i'l need an entire new backwheel
17:54 < ravioli> Wannabejrsysadm: cheap bike?
17:54 < dragonfleas> fixed gear?
17:55 < Wannabejrsysadm> fixed gear and ive gotten this bike when i was 12
17:55 < Wannabejrsysadm> I'm 25 now :D
17:55 < Wannabejrsysadm> hardly any original parts are left on that bike :')
17:55 < Wannabejrsysadm> I was thinking of being cool and just dichting the bike and getting an electric skateboard (boosted boards)
17:55 < Wannabejrsysadm> But I live in EUROPE
17:55 < ravioli> so...cheap wheel? :p
17:56 < Wannabejrsysadm> so support of those boosted boards will be rough if anything brakes
17:56 < ravioli> bike wheels usually don't bend or break unless you crash into a telephone pole or something.
17:56 < Wannabejrsysadm> well i had a collision with a 14 year old retard a few months ago
17:56 < Wannabejrsysadm> than my frontwheel broke
17:56 < Ottomite> welcome to the quarter life crisis club Wannabejrsysadm
17:56 < Wannabejrsysadm> and now my backwheel after dropping of some biggs ledges
17:56 < dragonfleas> I bought one of these on amazon and got a padded seat for it
17:57 < dragonfleas> https://www.amazon.com/6KU-Beach-Fixed-Bicycle-Celeste/dp/B00IK6XZA8/ref=sr_1_6?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1524758188&sr=1-6&keywords=fixed+gear+bike&dpID=51a9qWVLkLL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
17:57 < Wannabejrsysadm> maybe I should just go for my drivers license for once xD
17:57 < dragonfleas> it's solid
17:57 < ravioli> Wannabejrsysadm: you in the city?
17:57 < ravioli> well, must be if no license
17:57 < ravioli> and if you took a bus
17:57 < Wannabejrsysadm> i'm in the city, but I work in a diffrent city , ... 10 min bike ==> 25 min train ==> 10 min walk
17:58 < ihre> why are Belgian roads to bad Wannabejrsysadm?
17:58 < Wannabejrsysadm> Cuz our government is incompetent
17:59 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Wannabejrsysadm, WHy not just bike the last 10 min?
17:59 < Wannabejrsysadm> SysAdminGoneCraZ i'l need a second bike in that city ?
18:00 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Wannabejrsysadm, Wait. I'm confused, you can't take your bike on the train?
18:00 < Wannabejrsysadm> I could SysAdminGoneCraZ but i'll cost me money LOL and i'ts a hassle since trains are always pretty full
18:02 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Wannabejrsysadm, I didn't know it cost money to take your bike on a train. TIL.
18:03 < Wannabejrsysadm> SysAdminGoneCraZ unless its like one of those tiny foldable bikes
18:04 < Wannabejrsysadm> I could buy one of those and give up on my  13 year old bike
18:04 < abakedapplepie> so comcast guy came yesterday for service install... he tracked some mud into my server room
18:04 < abakedapplepie> or what i thought was mud
18:04 < Jaga_> got a hyper v question--  If i'm logged into a domain account and have VMS running, and I log out and back into the local account, do my VMs continue running?
18:04 < abakedapplepie> just went to clean it and turns out its dog shit
18:04 < Wannabejrsysadm> HE POOPED ?
18:04 < abakedapplepie> fml
18:04 < Wannabejrsysadm> LOL
18:04 < abakedapplepie> dog shit in my server room
18:04 < abakedapplepie> :|
18:04 < Heresiarch> wat
18:04 < Wannabejrsysadm> Jaga_lol if its the same as in VMWare they do yeah :p
18:05 < abakedapplepie> at least its dry completely
18:05 < abakedapplepie> but i can smell it
18:05 < Jaga_> ty
18:05 < Jaga_> *minutes later* everything's on fire
18:06 < Hatter> Do you guys think the term 'shoeblack' is offensive?
18:06 < Hatter> I just casually used it and got a bit of grief
18:06 < Wannabejrsysadm> depends on the context :P
18:06 < Hatter> well I said I was going to visit the local shoeblack
18:07 < dragonfleas> Just got an email from a company saying they saw my background on linkedin through a fellow connection and want me to come interview for a position
18:07 < abakedapplepie> i didnt know that was a term
18:07 < Jaga_> what kind of grief?
18:07 < Heresiarch> when used to describe shoe polish, no. When used in reference to someone who polishes shoes for a living, it's plausible that someone could find that offensive.
18:07 < dragonfleas> Should I go interview
18:07 < abakedapplepie> always just thought shoeshiner
18:07 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> dragonfleas, Yes.
18:07 < dragonfleas> i've only been at my current org for 7 months though :/
18:07 < Jaga_> was it like oh you're a racist type of grief
18:07 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> dragonfleas, So?
18:07 < Jaga_> or was it like, damn what an elitist type of grief
18:07 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> dragonfleas, Go interview.
18:07 < dragonfleas> I like it here but they said the pay was big time increase from what I'm at
18:07 < Hatter> Jaga_: yes I think they thought I was being racist
18:07 < Hatter> and of course I would never
18:08 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> dragonfleas, It's not a guaranteed thing. DOesn't mean you'll get he job
18:08 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: interviews do not commit you to take a position.
18:08 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> dragonfleas, Still, go. Get some interview experience under your belt.
18:08 < Jaga_> haha they just misunderstood it,  i wouldn't worry about it.  #ShoeBlackLivesMatter
18:08 < Hatter> Jaga_: you've taken it to far
18:08 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> dragonfleas, Besides, you might be interested in learning how much OTHER companies are willing to pay you.
18:08 < Jaga_> damn
18:08 < Jaga_> Ctrl+Z
18:09 < dragonfleas> Ok I'll listen to you guys.
18:09 < abakedapplepie> ive literally never heard the term shoeblack to represent a shoe shiner, ive always heard shoeblack in reference to shoe polish itself
18:09 < dragonfleas> It's a Junior systems analyst position at a 10k increase from what I'm at.....
18:10 < Heresiarch> abakedapplepie: ++
18:10 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> dragonfleas, See, you're already winning.
18:10 < Jekotia> dragonfleas: If I've learned anything in here, it's never take career advice from the internet
18:10 < mal_will> ^^
18:10 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: is this your first full admin job?
18:10 < dragonfleas> Jekotia? really? /r/sysadmin is the reason I have my job today
18:10 < Jekotia> Unless the Internet is right. SOmetimes it is
18:10 < dragonfleas> Heresiarch, no I'm sole-role admin right now, but this is at a big company
18:11 < mal_will> but though, not taking a pay increase is basically like paying to stay in your current job
18:11 < dragonfleas> 10k is a lot
18:11 < mal_will> is your current job worth potentially losing 10k?
18:11 < dragonfleas> if it was like 2k I'd probably turn it down
18:11 < dragonfleas> My current job has full flexibility and the benefits are insane, the 5 weeks of vacation alone is almost worth 10k
18:11 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: Sorry, was asking after your current position. That said, I'd advocate being in a larger company (if possible) in the early phases of one's career.
18:11 < mal_will> o dang
18:12 < abakedapplepie> dragonfleas: counter with benefits
18:12 < dragonfleas> Heresiarch, honestly being sole-role is okay, but I miss having the structure of an entire department
18:12 < abakedapplepie> tellthem you want 5 weeks at new place
18:12 < abakedapplepie> :P
18:12 < dragonfleas> They want vmware experience, which I have a little bit of
18:12 < dragonfleas> Maintained VMware but never deployed it
18:12 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: that's part of the downside. Another part is that at an SMB, you'll almost never work to the same level of scale that you can in large/enterprise.
18:13 < JFDkthx> Heresiarch: doesnt mean you cant act like you do.
18:13 < dragonfleas> Heresiarch, yeah, honestly I miss managing a shit ton of users and getting to test small things and have the offset due to having backup
18:13 < dragonfleas> right now we have an emergency only MSP to cover but that's in case I'm in the hospital or unable to perform my duties
18:13 < mal_will> I defs prefer working in smaller places. It's stressful to be $onlyadmin, but it's also just so fascinating
18:14 < JFDkthx> mal_will: i hate being silo'd
18:14 < mal_will> I worked at a 22k company for a month as one of 4 people making O365 accounts, using the scripts someone else made
18:14 < Heresiarch> JFDkthx: sure. But simulating practices used at larger scale isn't the same thing as _actually working_ in larger scale. If nothing else, you simply won't get the same non-technical exposure.
18:14 < JFDkthx> then again, i would love to be just a linux admin instead of having to deal with all the other shit
18:14 < mal_will> "Exchange Admin"
18:14 < dragonfleas> mal_will, holy fuck
18:14 < dragonfleas> 22k
18:14 < mal_will> It was miserable
18:15 < mal_will> 22k people, sry.
18:15 < dragonfleas> i understood what you meant
18:15 < Jekotia> mal_will: Agreed. I work for a manufacturer in Canada, so it's loosely my job to know how everything works, since in order to prioritise I need to understand what things do even if they're not inherently my responsibility. It's fascinating indeed.
18:15 < mal_will> ah
18:15 < dragonfleas> Honestly I think I'd be a prime candidate for a Jr. Systems Analyst position
18:15 < mal_will> I get a little high on the power, really, haha
18:15 < Wannabejrsysadm> anyone else invested in CRYPTO ?
18:15 < asimon> .value btc
18:15 < dragonfleas> I'm definitely junior, but this environment at my current position is not complex enough for me not to be able to maintain by myself
18:16 < Wannabejrsysadm> dragonfleas same :)
18:16 < mal_will> people come up to ask you everything, and you get to be like, "well this this and this" right Jekotia ?
18:16 < Wannabejrsysadm> about 3 sites / 160 people / 25 VMs
18:16 < dragonfleas> plus a company hiring on someone with a junior title means that they expect you to not know anything and want to learn, which is exactly where i am
18:16 < mal_will> dragonfleas: will they grow with you? In two years will it be boring?
18:16 < Wannabejrsysadm> I maintain everything, exchange , network, firewall, vmware environment
18:16 < Wannabejrsysadm> i'm already getting bored
18:16 < dragonfleas> yep same Wannabejrsysadm
18:17 < Wannabejrsysadm> I automised myself out of a job
18:17 < dragonfleas> I've been bored ever since I revitalized backups, and migrated us, now I'm just slowly working on getting servers on 2012r2
18:17 < dragonfleas> but it's not a priority thing so I just tack away at it working on one small part of it every day
18:17 < Wannabejrsysadm> setup PDQ Deploy / WDS with MDT / Powershell scripts for everything boring and tidious like onboarding
18:17 < mal_will> My boss is rolling a lot of security my way, which is so legit, but I'm getting a little burnt out doing it all alongside infrastucture stuff. I think my company is finally ready for two sysadmins
18:18 < Wannabejrsysadm> I still hate the small stupid issues lik people having trouble with signing with a certifcate on government websites
18:18 < Wannabejrsysadm> our government devs are so incompetent
18:18 < dragonfleas> I'm curious about the position because the recruiter from the company that contacted me stated XX/hr and not XX,XXX yearly
18:18 < Wannabejrsysadm> I had to do 3 things go to be able to sign documents with somoan's Eid
18:18 < dragonfleas> What kind of admin position is hourly
18:18 < dragonfleas> Are any of you guys hourly admins?
18:18 < Wannabejrsysadm> 1. Website only works in IE
18:19 < Wannabejrsysadm> 2. Add website to trusted zone
18:19 < Wannabejrsysadm> 3. Update IE to latest version
18:19 < audia5> sup
18:19 < Wannabejrsysadm> 4. Turn on compatibility mode
18:19 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: usually contract or noc/analyst folk that won't necessarily work much out-of-schedule.
18:19 < Wannabejrsysadm> ;.;
18:19 < Bru-> thats weird
18:19 < Bru-> on my toughbook, linux suspends when i hover over the trackpad
18:20 < Bru-> maybe an inch above it
18:20 < Bru-> no touching
18:21 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: keep in mind that this is also an analyst position. It's entirely possible that the position will be something on the order of server-level helpdesk, or watching monitoring for things that aren't yet problems.
18:23 < dragonfleas> I wouldn't mind doing NOC work if there's a potential to move myself up into an engineer/devops position
18:23 < dragonfleas> the only thing I'd probably hate is the hours
18:24 < mal_will> My jobs are usually sent to me with hourly wage info, but are salary
18:24 < dragonfleas> I just hit my 3 year mark in IT
18:24 < dragonfleas> 2 months ago
18:25 < bobbeh> cryptic1: where my v at b
18:25 < dragonfleas> Do you think that progression is alright? being in help desk 1 year, senior technician 1 year 2 month, and sysadmin for about 10 months
18:25 < Heresiarch> it's not unusual, if that's what you're asking.
18:25 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> mal_will, Because it's easier to understand a budget when you can visualize "1500 per week" versus "60,000/yr".
18:27 < dragonfleas> Heresiarch, i just don't know averages on progression in IT, i know some people who have been help desk for like 7 years lmao
18:27 < mal_will> Yee, I don't think it's necessarily saying "you're hourly"
18:27 < dragonfleas> I see
18:27 < mal_will> I like to move once every 2-3 years
18:28 < mal_will> I've been in this 8 years, 5 positions. dang
18:28 < gnupluslinux> sup
18:28 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: sure. I know of one guy who was doing app support in the same company for 15+ years. But he was good at it, and he's happy in the position.
18:28 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> dragonfleas, That's because they aren't comfortable with changes or they are limited in their options. In order to progress, you have to be willing to walk away from where you're currently standing.
18:28 < mal_will> That'd make my eyes bleed
18:28 < dragonfleas> I'm making 40k a year right now, and this position is 52k so it is a significant jump
18:29 < dragonfleas> As of right now, I've had 4 positions in 3 years lol
18:29 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: if you know where you're wanting to end up, then how quickly you get there is a matter of timing/planning/a little luck.
18:29 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> dragonfleas, I mean, I know people in Gov who've been doing nothing but helpdesk their entire 20year career. When you ask them why, the reply with "The job is easy and the pay check is amazing, why rock the boat?"
18:29 < dragonfleas> Last job I left due to hostile work environment
18:29 < tsarbomba> my congressman followed me on twitter. i don't know what this means.
18:29 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> tsarbomba, You're on a list./
18:29 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, it means you are the captain now
18:29 < tsarbomba> fuuuuuuck
18:29 < asimon> Why was this newsworthy in 1986 https://www.nytimes.com/1986/09/28/opinion/l-just-how-long-is-a-trillion-seconds-229186.html
18:29 < dragonfleas> tweet him and say "look at me, I am the captain now"
18:31 < tsarbomba> sysadmingonecraz, would you believe that's the reason i switched from aerospace to IT
18:31 < tsarbomba> well, one of two primary reasons
18:31 < voidstar> fiberninja?
18:31 < tsarbomba> the other being that the defense contractor industry looked a little shaky in the late 90s after we hadn't gone to war with a middle eastern country in a number of years and i panicked a bit
18:32 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> tsarbomba, Well, IDK what aerospace jobs consists of, but if it's anything like 13-year old me is imagining, I'd say you're crazy to leave that for IT.
18:32 < tsarbomba> i did both design and CFD analysis
18:32 < tsarbomba> design is very, very difficult in aerospace. CFD was fun but doesn't have quite the same juice.
18:32 < tsarbomba> unless you become very, very good
18:32 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> tsarbomba, You drew fucking SPACE SHIPS !?
18:32 < tsarbomba> fighter jet engines, actually, but yeah
18:32 < tsarbomba> also steam turbines for power generation
18:33 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> tsarbomba, That sounds cool as hell. lol
18:33 < tsarbomba> i grew up wanting to do it. of course, like being a firefighter, it's fraught with all sorts of shit you don't realize as a kid but can't stand as an adult
18:33 < robotman321> sounds like any job ever
18:33 < tsarbomba> besides, i found my calling midway through college as i was co-opping and taking my required CS courses
18:33 < tsarbomba> yeah i imagine so
18:34 < Hatter> I wanted to be a famous archaelogist like Indiana Jones
18:34 < tsarbomba> "and all i got was this stupid fedora"?
18:34 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Hatter, WHere did you go wrong?
18:34 < tsarbomba> at the temple of doom, of course
18:34 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> lol
18:34 < Hatter> I found out there's no such thing
18:34 < tsarbomba> ain't you see that big ass rock
18:35 < JFDkthx> Hatter: dont let that stop you from getting lost in the desert
18:35 < JFDkthx> go for it
18:35 < JFDkthx> i believe in you
18:35 < tsarbomba> raiders made me want to be indiana jones. last crusade made me want to be indy's dad.
18:35 < khelpw> Am I the only one who never had any hopes of finding a 'dream job' or even something to do during the day that makes me feel especially satisfied?
18:36 < khelpw> I derive 99.9% of my personal satisfaction in life from things other than what I get paid to do.
18:36 < tsarbomba> i started out with my 'dream job' and ultimately found something satisfying
18:36 < JFDkthx> khelpw: work doesnt bring me joy, i can get satisfaction from the work i do, but not joy.
18:36 < voidstar> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAD6Obi7Cag
18:36 <+layer-eight> YouTube ┃ Title ↠ Dire Straits - Money For Nothing music video (Good quality, all countries) ┃ Duration ↠ 4:04 ┃ Upload Date ↠ Tue Apr 28 03:43:48 UTC 2009
18:36 < tsarbomba> work brings me money. money pays for my non-work hours. plus i don't hate my job
18:36 < khelpw> I'd hate my job if I cared more
18:37 < khelpw> at this point, I mostly just chuckle and go "yea ok"
18:38 < Hatter> yeah khelp but we don't all have a freak leather obsession to keep our minds occupied
18:38 < Hatter> I meant to say freaky
18:38 < khelpw> The Venn diagram of "shit I do because I enjoy it" and "Shit I do because it's my job" looks like (  ) (  )
18:38 < khelpw> I mean, I have a ton of hobbies besides just leathercraft.
18:38 < Hatter> name six
18:39 < xtensive> if you had to do any of your hobbies for a job it would likely eventually not be enjoyable anymore
18:39 < ned0> khelpw herpetology?
18:40 < khelpw> Rock climbing, Herpetology, autocross, volunteering for stage rally, Hiking/camping, and playing bass, just off the top of my head
18:40 < khelpw> there are plenty more though if you count things like collections as hobbies
18:40 < Hatter> I have been thinking of getting back into watch and clock making, I dabbled a bit in my youth
18:40 < vinrock> derpetology
18:41 < vinrock> hatter wtf kind of sentence is that
18:41 < vinrock> thats sounds like old geezer talk
18:41 < khelpw> Clock making is really interesting. I watched clickspring build his clock and was just in awe of his precision and how clean his work is
18:41 < khelpw> wish I had the tools, let alone the skill to attempt something like that.
18:42 < vinrock> there's a school over in europe that teaches watchmaking
18:42 < vinrock> pretty sure you biuld your own through the curriculum
18:42 < officerrando> a guy I went to high school with makes custom watches now. they're pretty awesome.
18:42 < khelpw> I'd love to apprentice to become a bespoke shoe maker, but the market for them in the US is so absurdly bad.
18:42 < khelpw> I'd have to move to Geneva or something
18:43 < vinrock> oh god i want a pair of luis vuitton handmade shoes
18:43 < officerrando> https://www.instagram.com/artifice.hw/
18:43 <+giant_it_burrit> is fcron installed by default on ubuntu?
18:44 < Heresiarch> giant_it_burrit: don't think so.
18:46 < khelpw> vinrock: what is with this recent fascination with LV shit from guys?
18:46 < vinrock> beats me ive wanted em since i saw a vid over a decade ago
18:46 < vinrock> but i aint buying no $1,000 shoes
18:47 < khelpw> I get that the whole hypebeast/supreme shit exists.
18:47 < vinrock> its how theyre made
18:47 < vinrock> everything 10% handmade by a little italian dude
18:47 < vinrock> wooden pegs n shit
18:47 < vinrock> its rad
18:47 < syere> 10% huh
18:48 < vinrock> + a 0
18:48 < syere> :)
18:51 < JFDkthx> when people walk into the bathroom, and hit the automatic paper dispenser as they walk to the urinal. nothing makes me happier than washing my hands first, and taking the paper
18:51 < khelpw> I mean, I'd almost buy that when it comes to shit like Hermes but a lot of their work is pretty 'meh' for the price
18:51 < khelpw> LV stuff is made like shit, out of shitty material most of the time
18:52 < ihre> officerrando: 90% of the parts used for modifying watches comes from a super cheap chinese webshop, or 2nd hand watches and mix n match. a friend of mine does the same, i think its super cheesy :p
18:52 < vinrock> well yeah they have their off the shelf shit and shit like the shoes i want
18:52 < vinrock> bags/luggage my preference is Tumi
18:53 < Casteil> 'I like the most expensive shit I can find'
18:53 < Casteil> :P
18:53 < khelpw> Gotta go bespoke then.
18:53 < xtensive> expensive for expensive's sake is stupid tho
18:54 < Casteil> welp, I've got a huge weedwacker box sitting on my porch
18:54 < Casteil> I should go grab that and finish working from home
18:54 < vinrock> wack dem weeds
18:55 < Casteil> I don't really intend to use it today but I don't like leaving big packages on my porch for long periods
18:55 < vinrock> ive got this unifi switch that keeps randomly rebooting and cant figure out if its the switch or the poe port on the fw its getting juice from
18:55 < Casteil> not that it's likely to be stolen
18:55 < vinrock> exact same setup in three offices, stats all look similar
18:55 < khelpw> http://www.sima-prague.com/en/gallery/bags.html
18:56 < khelpw> shit like this is expensive af, but manages to justify that expense by being entirely handmade and bespoke
18:56 < tsarbomba> happy national pretzel day
18:56 < Casteil> khelpw: fuck that shit
18:56 < JFDkthx> tsarbomba: too tied up to celebrate
18:56 < Casteil> spend shitloads of money on luggage that is going to end up getting beat up / ruined by baggage handlers anyway? hard pass.
18:57 < khelpw> I'm just saying as opposed to something like a similar bag from Hermes
18:57 < khelpw> and this is more for a briefcase sorta deal. something that you'd be carrying with you
18:57 < vinrock> i had custom boots made for my feet in the philippines by the same shoemakers that emelda marcos used
18:57 < vinrock> they were supergarbage
18:57 < Casteil> well, I'm talking about expensive luggage in genreal
18:57 < Casteil> general
18:57 < Casteil> I spent like $80 on a decent carryon and was pissed off the first time I had to planeside check it because they put a nice gouge in it immediately
18:57 < Casteil> :|
18:58 < khelpw> I got a $320 suitcase for $15 at a thrift store that I'm quite happy with
18:58 < xtensive> soft pretzels tsarbomba !  With cheese dip
18:58 < vinrock> http://www.wdio.com/livestream/
18:58 < audia5> happy pretzel day
18:58 < vinrock> live stream
18:58 < vinrock> oil refinery goes kaboom
18:58 < khelpw> https://shop.delsey.com/product/sky-max/2wheel-garment-bag?attribute=755af9b9-fbe0-4d1d-8ef6-d1b71fbddb8c
18:58 < khelpw> this thing
18:59 < Casteil> vinrock: I like how there's no location information on that.
18:59 < Casteil> superior where?
18:59 < vinrock> lol yeah i have no idea where the hell this is
18:59 < ihre> heh, 'superior'
18:59 < Casteil> wisconsin apparently
19:00 < Casteil> I think I'm going to go top off my gas tank on my way home.. gas companies are always quick on the draw to jack up prices as soon as something happens
19:01 < Casteil> I think we'll see them jump above $3/gallon here again
19:01 < Casteil> jumped from $2.54 to $2.97 last week -.-
19:01 < Casteil> back down to like $2.70 right now but now with this it'll go up again
19:03 < Ottomite> oh wow !
19:03 < Ottomite> thats the second refinery explosion in a week
19:03 < Casteil> yeah, that first one is probably why it jumped 40 cents here last week
19:03 < Ottomite> One caught fire in Texas City a few days ago.
19:04 < Ottomite> I hate driving a car that takes premium. 2.99 is standard for me :(
19:04 < Casteil> they're super quick to jump them 30-50 cents whenever there's an incident, then super slow to dial it back down when it ends up not being as big of a deal as they thought
19:04 < Casteil> Ottomite: heh, yeah.. that's one of the reasons why I bought a Legacy instead of a (turbo) WRX
19:05 < Ottomite> I drive the brz
19:05 < Casteil> and I didn't get a BRZ because it's not AWD :P
19:05 < Casteil> fun car nonetheless
19:05 < Ottomite> well im down south. we dont get snow.
19:06 < Ottomite> Summer tires all year lol
19:07 < khelpw> I should drive my subaru one of these days
19:07  * Ottomite thinks about diching work to go for a drive.... 
19:07 < khelpw> Fucking traffic tho
19:07 < Casteil> Ottomite: ah
19:07 < khelpw> autox is over an hour away now too.
19:07 < Casteil> that wouldn't fly here haha
19:07 < Ottomite> LOL, it wouldnt fly here too. But the temptation is real
19:08 < Casteil> (I meant summer tires all year)
19:08 < Casteil> I'm actually about to 'ditch' and finihs from home
19:08 < Casteil> finish
19:09 < khelpw> I should be putting my semislicks back on any time now
19:09 < khelpw> I just feel like by doing so I'm inviting the weather to go to shit and snow at us again
19:09 < Casteil> I've got a very loose leash and my boss doesn't really give a fuck as long as we're getting it done
19:10 < Ottomite> Casteil, same here. my boss is the president of the company. He cant care less. But still dont like not being in the office when he walks in
19:10 < Casteil> hehe
19:10 < Casteil> my boss and company owner work in a different office
19:11 < Casteil> I don't answer to anyone in this office :P
19:11 < Ottomite> that works :)
19:12 < Ottomite> ultrawide monitors are a god sent
19:12  * Ottomite thinks about getting another one... 
19:13 < Casteil> I'd probably be down for a single 3560x1440 or w/e res ultrawide
19:13 < Nightcinder> meh
19:13 < Nightcinder> it's not as good as it sounds Casteil
19:13 < Nightcinder> i'd trade my 3440x1440 for a pair of 2560x1440's
19:14 < Casteil> speaking of my boss/company owner being in a different office... I might end up at that downtown office soon enough
19:14 < Ottomite> I love my 3440x1440
19:14 < L3gacy> good bacon to all and to all some good bacon
19:14 < Casteil> not that I want to... I'm happy with my 2.5 mile / 5 minute commute
19:14 < L3gacy> Sprint WONT unlock y note 4 >.<  Claims they "cant"
19:14 < Casteil> if I get stuck working downtown my commute quadruples at least
19:14 < Nightcinder> i want one of those new IPS HDR 2560x1440 144
19:14 < Casteil> 20-30 minute commute if not a little more on bad days
19:14 < L3gacy> link, Nightcinder ?
19:15 < Nightcinder> sorry i meant 4k
19:15 < Casteil> Nightcinder: I just don't like being limited to 1080 vertical
19:15 < Nightcinder> https://www.asus.com/us/Monitors/ROG-SWIFT-PG27UQ/
19:15 < Casteil> it still feels.. inadequate, despite the fact that it's been like 3 years since I stopped using my 1920x1200 dell monitor
19:15 < Ottomite> i dont mind my 20 min commute. Its all highway and its a reverse commute.
19:15 < ihre> this xps 13 has a 4k res, but i scale it down to 2048x1152, and have an external 4k at work, that works pretty nice imo
19:15 < Nightcinder> i believe price was leaked as $1200
19:15 < officerrando> Have you guys seen an issue with office 365 where it randomly grabs an email from a folder in or under the inbox and just moves it to junk mail?
19:15 < L3gacy> holy poop!
19:15 < Casteil> Ottomite: my route downtown is basically as bad as traffic gets in this city
19:16 < officerrando> just had that happen to a client, even with outlook closed. no rules or anything. so strange.
19:16 < Nightcinder> L3gacy: yeah and it's asus so meh
19:16 < Casteil> I drove downtown yesterday morning at like 8:15 am and it took me like 25-30 minutes
19:16 < Nightcinder> the other one is acer
19:16 < Nightcinder> :(
19:16 < officerrando> opened a ticket yesterday and after eliminating the tech's unrelated suggestions, he said he had another ticket like that come in.
19:16 < Casteil> and I left from the office which is like 5-10 minutes closer to our downtown office than home
19:16 < Casteil> -.-
19:17 < Ottomite> Casteil, ill our one out for you.
19:17 < Casteil> going to tell my boss if he wants me working downtown that I'm going to be starting at 7am to avoid rush hour traffic
19:17 < Casteil> :X
19:17 < Ottomite> pour*
19:18 < officerrando> Casteil: are you the one that works in SE Asia area?
19:18 < Casteil> lol, no
19:19 < L3gacy> I'm looking for IT work in NJ/Philly.  Any hints/leads?
19:19 < officerrando> gotcha. can't remember who that was.
19:20 < dragonfleas> ok i got an interview set up
19:20 < dragonfleas> i'm nervous now
19:20 < L3gacy> oh?
19:21 < dragonfleas> It's not a NOC position, but it's contract-to-hire contract is 1 year
19:21 < dragonfleas> and it's at an energy corporation
19:21 < dragonfleas> anybody worked with SCADA here before?
19:22 < dragonfleas> It's like the control data for pumps and shit
19:22 < dragonfleas> apparently it requires a very unique network architecture
19:23 < ihre> google stuxnet :^)
19:23 < officerrando> lol
19:25 < Operator_Man65> im mod and im from oklahoma im speshal
19:25 < Heresiarch> Code_Man65: did you get your start in windows, or linux?
19:25 < dragonfleas> Heresiarch, www.google.com
19:26 <@Code_Man65> Heresiarch:  Windows 3.11
19:26 < Bru-> hmm
19:26 < Bru-> anyone have their linux laptop just suddenly want to suspend
19:26 < Heresiarch> Code_Man65: hm. Stuck with Microsoft over the years?
19:26 < dragonfleas> Code_Man65, how old are you? I was born after 3.11 was even created
19:26 < Bru-> as soon as you start using the trackpad?
19:26 <@Code_Man65> Nah, I've been in both worlds Heresiarch
19:26 <@Code_Man65> I first used linux when I installed Mandrake in 1998
19:26 <@Code_Man65> dragonfleas?  36
19:26 < Heresiarch> heh
19:26 < dragonfleas> yeah i'm just young lol
19:27 < dragonfleas> i'm 22
19:27 < DomLS3> pfsense
19:27 < L3gacy> pfSense!
19:27 < plop> .bofh
19:27 <+layer-eight> plop, BOFH says: excess surge protection
19:27 < felda> I am being sexually harassed by these comments
19:27 < Heresiarch> Code_Man65: wondering how much fun it'd be to switch from normal devops to Windows-specific devops.
19:28 <@Code_Man65> Did you see what I said I was working on earlier?
19:28 < Heresiarch> nope
19:28 <@Code_Man65> I'm working on building a DSC configuration that will build an MSA before installing SQL Server and then use that MSA in the SQL install
19:28 < Heresiarch> MSA?
19:29 <@Code_Man65> Managed Service Account
19:29 < DomLS3> DSC?
19:29 <@Code_Man65> Desired State Configuration
19:29 < Heresiarch> ...PoSH, or CM tooling?
19:29 < DomLS3> SQL?
19:29 <@Code_Man65> Heresiarch:  Yes
19:29 < felda> Code_Man65 eats the crispy part of the old mustard bottle lid
19:29 < DomLS3> felda: That's the best part
19:30 < DomLS3> Maybe I really don't know what SQL is and you just kicked me for no reason
19:30 < DomLS3> :o
19:30 < Heresiarch> Code_Man65: heh. posh to create the account, then CM tool/DSC for the SQL side?
19:30 <@Code_Man65> Nope, sorry do'nt by that
19:30 < DomLS3> s/by/buy
19:30 <+layer-eight> Code_Man65 meant: "Nope, sorry do'nt buy that"
19:30 < DomLS3> s/do'nt/don't
19:30 <+layer-eight> Code_Man65 meant: "Nope, sorry don't buy that"
19:30 < DomLS3> You're welcome.
19:30 < DomLS3> That'll be +v for a day
19:30 <@Code_Man65> DSC (via the script resource) handles the creation of the MSA
19:31 <@Code_Man65> Whoops
19:31 < AbuseMan_65> dd
19:31 < AbuseMan_65> oh
19:31 < AbuseMan_65> it works
19:31 < Heresiarch> Code_Man65: interesting. Has DSC expanded significantly in the past several months?
19:31 < felda> I once heard Code_Man65 utter the phrase "ayyy gurl show me how them titties fart!"
19:31 < audia5> tsarbomba what you doing chilling
19:31 <@Code_Man65> It's been expanding constantly via the community
19:32 < AbuseMan_66> suck a tit
19:32 < Heresiarch> Code_Man65: ORLY
19:32 < felda> AbuseMan_66 it's like you're trying to get banned
19:32 <@Code_Man65> And MS is still actively updating their resources as well
19:32 < felda> you gotta learn how to dis the OPs
19:32 < Heresiarch> Intresting. Didn't realize that DSC had that much of a community at this point.
19:34 < DomLS3> this is causing felda serious psychological issues
19:34 < DomLS3> pfsense
19:34 < felda> I will not sink to your level DomLS3
19:34 < DomLS3> felda: of course you won't. My level is higher, therefore sinking to my level would not make sense
19:35 < DomLS3> let me fix this for you
19:35 < DomLS3> s/sink /step
19:35 <+layer-eight> felda meant: "I will not stepto your level DomLS3"
19:35 < DomLS3> good enough
19:35 < DomLS3> hrmg
19:35 < DomLS3> I don't like that
19:35 < DomLS3> s/stepto/rise
19:35 <+layer-eight> felda meant: "I will not rise your level DomLS3"
19:35 < felda> lmao ur bad at layer-eight
19:35 < DomLS3> fuck
19:35 < DomLS3> I noticed lol
19:36 < DomLS3> you get the god damn picture
19:36 < felda> cryptic1 could you blacklist domls3 from layer-eight ?
19:36 < DomLS3> felda: cryptic1 has no control over layer-eight's blacklist
19:37 < asimon> Whats the joke behind pfsense
19:37 < DomLS3> asimon: it's a garbage product and anytime someone says it, the person who is equally just as trash gets kicked
19:37 < felda> asimon I used to shill pfsense a lot.
19:37 < asimon> so if i say
19:37 < asimon> pfsense
19:37 < felda> then the felda-pfsense became a meme
19:37 < asimon> Huh
19:37 < DomLS3> ^
19:37 < asimon> interesting
19:38 < DomLS3> The bot lags sometimes in kicking
19:38 < felda> it became so annoying cryptic1 and Code_Man65 would take turns kicking me anytime pfsense is mentioned
19:38 < felda> now only Code_Man65 clings to his last remaining power
19:38 < bigchim> no ip block? ;)
19:38 <@Code_Man65> And now there are two additional phrases that get different people kicked
19:38 < DomLS3> here we go
19:38 < DomLS3> :/
19:38 < felda> I won't do it
19:38 < DomLS3> you DO do it
19:38 < felda> k
19:39 < DomLS3> I get my +v taken away byt he kick all the time because of you
19:39 < felda> I'd like to order a hot-n-ready kick for DomLS3
19:39 < DomLS3> oven is broken
19:39 < DomLS3> no food here
19:39 < felda> esnesfp
19:39 < F34RInc> OOoooooooOOoooo
19:39 < bigchim> :D
19:39 < Heresiarch> Code_Man65: sticking with straight DSC, or a more general CM?
19:39 < DomLS3> don't forget an extra side of pfsense with that
19:39 <@Code_Man65> DSC for windows
19:40 < felda> F34RInc has pfblockerng been approved in github?
19:40 <@Code_Man65> Ansible (with tower) for linu x
19:40 <@Code_Man65> linux*
19:40 < felda> What you are referring to as Linux is actually GNU/Linux.  Or as I have taken a liking to GNU plus Linux.
19:40 < F34RInc> felda, I asked BBCan177 yesterday and he didnt hear anything since submission
19:40 < felda> aww :(
19:41 <+giant_it_burrit> please help another person from this room has invaded my office
19:43 < audia5> sup
19:45 < audia5> mi nigger
19:46 < DomLS3> woah
19:46 < bigchim> no hard r please
19:49 < Anaphylaxis> nigga*
19:49 < Anaphylaxis> ftfy
19:49 < JFDkthx> giant_it_burrit: this chat room?
19:50 <+giant_it_burrit> yep
19:50 < JFDkthx> is it precise
19:50 <+giant_it_burrit> no
19:50 < JFDkthx> name and sham
19:50 < JFDkthx> e
19:50 < JFDkthx> so we can use that person to talk about you behind your back
19:50 <+giant_it_burrit> he isnt here right now
19:50 <+giant_it_burrit> its cryptic1
19:51 < JFDkthx> giant_it_burrit: when you talk behind someones back does it feel like a massage
19:52 < gnupluslinux> wat
19:52 < JFDkthx> gnupluslinux: he's very italian
19:52 < gnupluslinux> very
19:52 <+giant_it_burrit> who is?
19:52 <+giant_it_burrit> me
19:52 <+giant_it_burrit> imma offended
19:53 < audia5> who is dago here
19:53 < DomLS3> <<
19:53 < DomLS3> A real one too. My last name ends in a vowel
19:53 < DomLS3> that's how you know
19:54 < JFDkthx> that doesnt mean anything
19:54 < DomLS3> You don't mean anything
19:54 < JFDkthx> thats fair
19:54 <+giant_it_burrit> so does mine DomLS3 lol
19:54 < JFDkthx> as does mine
19:55 <+giant_it_burrit> y doesnt count
19:55 < JFDkthx> you're the only one with a gay last name
19:55 < DomLS3> yes, only a,e,i,o and u count
19:55 < DomLS3> u is subjective
19:56 < DomLS3> Y is as much of a vowel as Canada is a country
19:57 < dragonfleas> what's a good excuse to tell my boss so I can go home and nap because i got 4 hours of sleep
19:58 < L3gacy> check bofh
19:58 < DomLS3> dog got out of the yard
19:58 < DomLS3> pipe burst
19:58 < DomLS3> explosive shits
19:58 < admiralspark> dragonfleas: tell him you want to review your security policies and need a quiet place to do it
19:59 < admiralspark> that, or microwave fish and tlel him it's doctor's orders
19:59 < admiralspark> trust me, youll get remote work permission from that
19:59 < dragonfleas> oooooh that's a good idea, those are up for review next month anyways
19:59 < dragonfleas> i'm not fucking microwaving fish lmfao
19:59 < dragonfleas> i saw that post on the subreddit
19:59 < dragonfleas> i already have remote work permission
19:59 < dragonfleas> but i'm working on a project that involves me being here lol
19:59 < dragonfleas> i am just falling asleep at my desk right now
20:00 <@Code_Man65> Or you can be an adult, say you aren't feeling well and go home
20:00 < tapoxi> http://fart.website
20:01 < Hatter> sfw?
20:01 < tapoxi> yes
20:01 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Hatter, Yes. I tested it for oyu
20:01 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Hatter, SysAdminGoneCraZ Approved.
20:02 < Hatter> hmm.. could be a trick
20:02 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, my raid battery in my brain broke so my write cache is erasing every few minutes
20:02 < tapoxi> Hatter: it's no http://poop.bike though
20:02 < dragonfleas> what the fuck is poop.bike
20:03 < JFDkthx> it's not fart.website
20:03 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> dragonfleas, ...
20:03 < dragonfleas> name your internal domain that
20:03 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> dragonfleas, Click it
20:03 < dragonfleas> sysadmin-laptop.poop.bike
20:03 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> dragonfleas, YOu tell us lol
20:03 < dragonfleas> fart.local
20:03 < dragonfleas> SFW?
20:03 < tapoxi> fart.business
20:03 < dragonfleas> far.contoso
20:03 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: no, mostly because .local is bad.
20:03 < dragonfleas> fart.contoso
20:03 < Anaphylaxis> fart condom?
20:03 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Heresiarch, It wasn't bad back in 2003!
20:04 < dragonfleas> i thought .local was standard for internal domains....
20:04 < F34RInc> .review  .download .faith
20:04 < DomLS3> .dickbutt
20:04 < dragonfleas> what's the new standard for internal domains
20:04 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> dragonfleas, That was when we didn't know any better.
20:04 < DomLS3> dragonfleas: .net
20:04 < tapoxi> dragonfleas: .com
20:04 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> dragonfleas, .com
20:04 < DomLS3> or .com
20:04 < dragonfleas> really?
20:04 < dragonfleas> ooooof
20:04 < tapoxi> yeah apple.com points to my mac mini
20:04 < F34RInc> use a TLD you own and create a subdomain for it
20:04 < Heresiarch> SysAdminGoneCraZ: neither was NT4.
20:04 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Heresiarch, Wait, really?
20:05 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Heresiarch, I thought it was back then
20:05 < tapoxi> dragonfleas: machine.datacenter.company is my scheme
20:05 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> dragonfleas, I only use .local for test environments.
20:05 < Heresiarch> SysAdminGoneCraZ: a few places didn't trust the new-fangledness of AD.
20:05 < tapoxi> .local is used by zeroconf
20:06 < Sousapro> thanks apple
20:06  * Sousapro stares at bonjour team until they ignite
20:06 < dotlocal> my new nickname
20:06 < fart_website> yes
20:07 < poop_bike> yes
20:07 < BadFontKeming> my new nick
20:07 < BadFontKeming> just in case you don't get enough terrible fonts in your life
20:08 < SpookyCrisp> BadFontKeming, My life is a bad font.
20:09 < fart_website> yo anyone in boston want my old job
20:09 < fart_website> its saltstack
20:09 < poop_bike> i'll take it
20:09 < fart_website> you know the best config management tool
20:09 < poop_bike> i'm in oklahoma they gonna give me a full corp move right
20:09 < Heresiarch> fart_website: only if it's full remote.
20:10 < fart_website> it's full boston seaport
20:10 < fart_website> poop_bike: if by full corp move you mean $80/month for the MBTA then yeah
20:11 < poop_bike> does it include a corporate fart website contract
20:11 < fart_website> no but you can bring your dog to the office
20:12 < fart_website> and they fart
20:12 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> I read somewhere that breathing in farts extends your life.
20:13 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Found it. Link for the non-believers: https://www.unilad.co.uk/science/smelling-your-partners-farts-will-make-you-live-longer-scientists-find/
20:14 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> felda, I need your stamp of approval for the above ^
20:14 < fart_website> thanks I gotta send that one to my wife
20:18 < fart_website> goddamn I love/hate minikube
20:19 < fartpoopydiarrhe> my new name is p u r e
20:19 < Sergio_CpE> what is Saltstack used for?
20:20 < JFDkthx> E N T E R P R I S E
20:21 < Heresiarch> Sergio_CpE: python fetishists.
20:21 < JFDkthx> Heresiarch: better than loving ruby
20:21 < Heresiarch> I get the hate for Ruby, but it is pretty useful.
20:22 < JFDkthx> never said it wasnt
20:23 < felda> SysAdminGoneCraZ let me gander at it
20:23 < felda> ooooh yes
20:23 < felda> I fuckin love wiffing a good sniff
20:23 < t_h_i_c_c_a_d_m_> damn it
20:23 < GreyKite> the fuck is wrong with you people
20:23 < GreyKite> nah, jk, hi guys
20:24 < GreyKite> same ol' same ol'
20:24 < t_h_i_c_c> greykite you want some of this p u r e t h i c c n e s s
20:24 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> felda, You will live on FOREVER!
20:25 < JFDkthx> SysAdminGoneCraZ: just sent that to the ball and chain
20:25 < JFDkthx> thanks
20:25 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> JFDkthx, lol Nice
20:28 < t_h_i_c_c> did felda died
20:28 < JFDkthx> nah, he was in here huffing farts a second ago
20:32 < Nightcinder> fucking dell
20:32 < Nightcinder> 5590 went to ULV processors
20:32 < Nightcinder> i want a 35w quad not a 15w quad for our power users
20:32 < GreyKite> hmmm we might be getting xeon laptops here
20:32 < GreyKite> I'm a might excited but reserving judgement
20:37 < JFDkthx> Nightcinder over clock it enough and it will be 35 again
20:38 < JFDkthx> just ramp the voltage up
20:38 < Nightcinder> lol
20:38 < Nightcinder> our rep specced us new 5590's with the ULV
20:38 < Nightcinder> and he's like 'same specs, quad core even!'
20:38 < Nightcinder> bitch i will cut you
20:39 < Nightcinder> "(lesser expensive  - faster but no Vpro)"
20:39 < Nightcinder> processor difference is 8250u vs 8350u, aka 100mhz
20:39 < Nightcinder> does he think i'm stupid
20:40 < JFDkthx> are you?
20:42 < Nightcinder> i must be
20:42 < Nightcinder> one quote is $1091 and the other is $1500 and the difference is the cpu and 8GB of RAM
20:42 < asimon> I just started using onenote and I'm looking through all the tags and shit
20:42 < Kobe`> ram is expensive
20:42 < asimon> is there seriously a tag for denoting something as a password
20:43 < Heresiarch> given how many people use onenote for storing credentials, quite possibly.
20:43 < asimon> ...and its not encrypted?
20:44 < audia5> municipality is building city and all city folks are invited to coffe and cake this is nice friday :)
20:46 < aaa_> can i come ?
20:46 < aaa_> i want some cake
20:47 < aaa_> free cake right ?
20:47 < aaa_> audia5
20:47 < JFDkthx> Kobe`: ram has started to come down in price a bit
20:47 < JFDkthx> not much
20:48 < audia5> yes free cake for all
20:48 < audia5> i love my town
20:48 < JFDkthx> it was nice when i bought 32gb of 3000mhz ram for 220
20:50 < JFDkthx> anyone here use tokens for their domain?
20:50 < JFDkthx> Code_Man65:
20:50 <@Code_Man65> Nope JFDkthx, though I am using virtual smartcards on my workstation and laptop
20:51 < JFDkthx> we were thinking about cutting over to tokens/smartcards
20:51 <@Code_Man65> If you are running Windows 10, look long and hard at virtual smartcards
20:53 < t_h_i_c_c> felda's addicted to jenkem?
20:54 < felda> t_h_i_c_c that's how I got my fix when I was in prison in Kindergarten
20:54 < Anaphylaxis> great, offline files is breaking folder redirection -.-
20:55 < t_h_i_c_c> Anaphylaxis, i know how to fix that
20:55 < Hatter> I don't know if you guys heard, but Bill Cosby is in a bit of dutch
20:55 < t_h_i_c_c> do you have folder redirection set from GPO?
20:55 < felda> Hatter yeah cryptic1 is definitely going to jail
20:56 < Anaphylaxis> t_h_i_c_c, i believe so
20:57 < t_h_i_c_c> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/242557/registry-settings-for-folder-redirection-in-windows
20:57 < t_h_i_c_c> follow that setting, keep offline files activated
20:57 < t_h_i_c_c> export it from registry
20:58 < t_h_i_c_c> and assign wildcard values
20:58 < t_h_i_c_c> like %username%
20:58 < AnimalFarmPig> Hmm.... idea for a fun homelab project. As the minepocalypse plays out, I expect used mining motherboards and pcie risers to become cheap. Maybe I should buy one on the cheap and fill it up with network cards and build my own DIY managed switch.
20:58 < t_h_i_c_c> and you can apply it on each person's PC automatically
20:58 < t_h_i_c_c> distribute it into public/startup/
20:58 < Anaphylaxis> it's just this guy's PC though t_h_i_c_c I think
20:59 < Anaphylaxis> if we enable it it says he doesn't have permission to access \RedirectedFolders\username\Documents , when he can access \Documents\xxx just fine
20:59 < Anaphylaxis> that much the same thing?
21:00 < t_h_i_c_c> oh
21:00 < t_h_i_c_c> i know how to fix that as well
21:00 < t_h_i_c_c> sometimes that happens if they don't have explicit read permissions of the root folder before \redirectedfolders\
21:00 < t_h_i_c_c> it's a known issue, it can also be caused by having access based enumeration enabled
21:01 < t_h_i_c_c> seems to be randomly occurring whenever ABE is enabled, because my last org had ABE enabled and document redirection worked
21:04 < tsarbomba> anyone here redpilled?
21:05 < int0x1C8> my adderall is red
21:06 < Anaphylaxis> ok i will try it :D thanks t_h_i_c_c
21:06 < t_h_i_c_c> tsarbomba, yeah dude 1488
21:06 < t_h_i_c_c> tsarbomba, bring on the ethnostate
21:06 < tsarbomba> kenrin? is that you?
21:06 < t_h_i_c_c> LOL
21:08 < int0x1C8> noobsaibot was a good char
21:08 < int0x1C8> hope they bring him back in MK11
21:09 < AnimalFarmPig> is Tobias Boon still involved in the series?
21:09 < int0x1C8> no its ed boon
21:10 < int0x1C8> tobias and boon are 2 people
21:10 < AnimalFarmPig> oh, neat
21:11 < Anaphylaxis> yeah so it's gpo, t_h_i_c_c, and if I enable offline files and now browse to \\fileserver\redirectedfolders\%USERNAME%\ it just says "Windows cannot access ......" "You do not have permission to access ...."
21:12 < int0x1C8> ed boon and john tobias
21:12 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, reading wikipedia article now
21:12 < t_h_i_c_c> Anaphylaxis, have you checked to see if the user has permission to access the folder that you're trying to access
21:12 < Anaphylaxis> yes
21:13 < t_h_i_c_c> Ok, what about the redirectedfolders folder
21:13 < t_h_i_c_c> do they have read access?
21:13 < Anaphylaxis> "Authenticated Users" have read yeah
21:13 < t_h_i_c_c> Add them explicitly and see what happens
21:13 < t_h_i_c_c> I've seen this exact situation
21:14 < SpookyCrisp> So I was told today by our Senior DBA that we did not need HTTPS on our website because we use SSO.
21:14 < ihre> tell him to grand all users all rights on his dbs
21:14 < ihre> and after that, to shut the fuck up
21:14 < Heresiarch> SpookyCrisp: MSSQL or Oracle?
21:15 < gnupluslinux> SpookyCrisp, u fucking what now?
21:15 < ihre> s/grand/grant
21:15 <+layer-eight> ihre meant: "tell him to grant all users all rights on his dbs"
21:15 < ihre> also from 0.0.0.0 while youre at it
21:15 < ihre> i guess '%'?
21:15 < SpookyCrisp> Heresiarch, MSSQL.
21:16 < Heresiarch> SpookyCrisp: please tell him he no longer needs transaction logs because users can log in with AD.
21:16 < SpookyCrisp> gnupluslinux, Our COO asked why our customers get the "Page is not Secure" when connecting to our products. Then he responds with that.
21:17 < gnupluslinux> sooo buy a cert?
21:17 < Heresiarch> honestly, I'm a little surprised SSO works at all. Most SPs/IdPs will shit the bed if you don't use https.
21:18 < gnupluslinux> ^^
21:18 < SpookyCrisp> It's insane.
21:18 < Heresiarch> the more uptight ones will shit the bed if you don't separately encrypt the sensitive bits of an SSO message.
21:19 < ihre> Heresiarch: most also have a feature to disable valid cert checking :P
21:19 < tsarbomba> one more day 'til friday, bitches
21:19 < ihre> insecure_ssl: uhh, yes.
21:19 < SpookyCrisp> Like, I can go and look up all of our customers usernames, passwords, and answers to security questions in plain text.
21:19 < Heresiarch> ihre: ...that's just jank.
21:21 < tsarbomba> redpillers/mgtow/incels are apparently losing their shit over bill cosby's conviction
21:21 < Hatter> I could actually use a couple more days before friday
21:21 < abakedapplepie> so theres an active shooter across the street from my office
21:21 < abakedapplepie> yay
21:22 < Maarten> let him rot in jail. sexual harrassment should be stopped.
21:22 < JFDkthx> abakedapplepie: dont put your lips on it.
21:22 < tsarbomba> abakedapplepie, who'd you piss off?
21:22 < AnimalFarmPig> abakedapplepie: suppressing fire?
21:22 < Hatter> Maarten: well sexual harassment is a bit subjective, we're of course talking about rape in the case of Cosby
21:22 < JFDkthx> tsarbomba: what was the conviction
21:22 < tsarbomba> abakedapplepie, what if you're the good guy with a gun that the nra keeps talking about?
21:22 < Hatter> but is a little sexual harassment really such a bad thing?
21:22 < abakedapplepie> the rumor is someone is trying to suicide by cop
21:22 < tsarbomba> jfdkthx, 3 counts sexual assault
21:22 < tsarbomba> up to 10 years prison
21:22 < abakedapplepie> but its a mess over here
21:22 < AnimalFarmPig> send it
21:22 < Maarten> Hatter, of course. either way, rotting in jail he will!
21:23 < JFDkthx> we have it here folks hatter encouraging sexual harassment
21:23 < Maarten> tsarbomba, up to 10 years for each count. He could serve up to 30. And there are still other cases against him.
21:23 < JFDkthx> i always knew hatter was no good
21:23 < tsarbomba> maarten really? i got #fakenewsed
21:23 < Hatter> well maarten agrees with me
21:23 < brucevein> any of you guys familiar with nodejs web apps?
21:23 < Heresiarch> Hatter: would you be ok with some exec randomly grabbing your junk as he walked by?
21:24 < tsarbomba> oh well, he's 80. he's gonna die in prison anyway
21:24 < asimon> s/he/they
21:24 <+layer-eight> tsarbomba meant: "oh well, they's 80. they's gonna die in prison anyway"
21:24 < asimon> shit
21:24 < JFDkthx> lol
21:24 < JFDkthx> still works
21:24 < JFDkthx> we pc now
21:24 < brucevein> im trying to deploy a nodejs app, it runs on port 3000. im using nginx to proxy https to that app
21:24 < tsarbomba> if some random exec grabbed my junk as i walked by he would leave with a compound fracture and a concussion.
21:24 < asimon> Could be worse actually
21:24 < Hatter> Heresiarch: well of course not, but that's a bit different than a friendly little goosing
21:24 < brucevein> but the app is still making api calls to itself using the non-https port
21:24 < brucevein> so the browser is puking every time you load the page
21:24 < tsarbomba> hatter, no troling
21:24 < Maarten> tsarbomba, actuallly..... "The 80-year-old comedian faces up to 10 years in prison on each count, but is likely to serve them concurrently." - so he could only be in jail 10 years maybe.
21:24 < tsarbomba> +l
21:24 < ravioli> Hatter: no trolling
21:24 < JFDkthx> brucevein: you got a connector that isnt lookin at the right place.
21:24 < tsarbomba> maarten, ah, incomplete news then
21:25 < brucevein> im trying to figure out if i configured something wrong....or if its an issue with the app
21:25 < Heresiarch> Hatter: ...do tell. What's the difference?
21:25 < Hatter> ravioli: using that reductive word is beneath you, it's too often used as a crutch for the witless
21:25 < brucevein> i have 0 experience with nodejs, just trying to do someone a favor and get this site going
21:25 < tsarbomba> i think part of the reason people are reacting so angrily to this is that a lot of us grew up with cosby being, well, cosby
21:25 < tsarbomba> not everyone seems to be capable of separating cosby the entertainer from cosby the rapist
21:26 < tsarbomba> me, i watched his famous standup special from the 80s the day of his first mistrial
21:26 < Hatter> tsarbomba: it's the same thing as liking MJ's music even though he was a child molestor
21:26 < Maarten> tsarbomba, I am disappointed. I loved the cosby show. I would still watch it today. But fame and being a funny comedian is no excuse for rape. He should be in jail.
21:26 < tsarbomba> "braaaain damage"
21:26 < tsarbomba> yup, hatter
21:26 < AnimalFarmPig> brucevein: look at the network tab and see what addresses browser is trying to hit
21:26 < brucevein> JFDkthx, are you gifted in the nodejs arena?
21:26 < tsarbomba> oh of course
21:26 < JFDkthx> brucevein: fuck no
21:26 < t_h_i_c_c> Anaphylaxis, any luck?
21:26 < tsarbomba> let him sign autographs for his fellow felons
21:26 < Hatter> Guys, the bible tells us "by their fruit you shall know them"
21:26 < brucevein> AnimalFarmPig, i can see its hitting server:3000/api
21:26 < brucevein> here, look
21:26 < Hatter> it's telling us that the tree itself may be twisted and gnarled, but we can still enjoy that which it yields
21:26 < AnimalFarmPig> brucevein: likely an app problem
21:26 < brucevein> https://bhash-exp.aeho.me/#/
21:27 < brucevein> https://github.com/bhashcoin/bhash-explorer
21:27 < brucevein> ^code i used
21:27 < Anaphylaxis> t_h_i_c_c, well I just kinda got in trouble because I didn't uncheck inheritance so I gave him read access to everyone's files
21:27 < audia5> its just setup cosby is not rapist
21:27 < Anaphylaxis> but, I tried it and it still didn't work lul
21:27 < tsarbomba> y'all preppin' to become bitcoin millionaires again?
21:27 < DrGibby|> to become?
21:27 < t_h_i_c_c> ..........
21:27 < brucevein> tsarbomba, EOS, not BTC
21:27 < t_h_i_c_c> why is there inheritance set on user folders
21:28 < tsarbomba> http://fortune.com/2018/03/07/bitcoin-mining-costs-global-south-korea-venezuela/
21:28 < t_h_i_c_c> it's fine
21:28 < brucevein> AnimalFarmPig, i found another fork of this same code that seems to be working behind https.....
21:28 < t_h_i_c_c> Anaphylaxis, work with higher up admins, they should know how to handle this
21:28 < brucevein> https://github.com/bulwark-crypto/bulwark-explorer
21:28 < AnimalFarmPig> brucevein: port # is getting sent from the server to the browser as 3000
21:28 < brucevein> yeah, theres a config.js in the app folder
21:28 < brucevein> and it says
21:28 < brucevein> one sec, i dont want to paste it here
21:29 < brucevein> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/h5jNG7vxsYIHITQzyZ1XLw
21:29 < AnimalFarmPig> brucevein: https://bhash-exp.aeho.me/bundle.js?6b9b593f80a25cef9491  <--- javascript blob that gets sent. search for "3000"
21:29 < tsarbomba> wikitardia's gone full edit-war on the cosby page https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bill_Cosby&action=history
21:29 < tsarbomba> surprised they haven't locked it yet
21:29 < AnimalFarmPig> yep. See if changing it to 443 fixes it
21:30 < Anaphylaxis> t_h_i_c_c, they can't figure it out either :P it's kinda a new problem but a few companies have had this shit.. it's weird why offline files breaks it
21:30 < Nightcinder> https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/04/ford-to-end-almost-all-us-car-sales-focusing-on-suvs-and-trucks/
21:30 < Nightcinder> ummm
21:30 < brucevein> AnimalFarmPig, i cant change that config to 443
21:30 < brucevein> because then the app itself runs on port 443
21:30 < t_h_i_c_c> Anaphylaxis, i'm guessing you guys are a primarily windows 7 environment?
21:30 < Anaphylaxis> but I replaced the registry %USERHOME%\Documents with \\fileserver\redirfolders\%username%\Documents so after a restart I'll cross my fingers
21:30 < Anaphylaxis> Win10 actually :P
21:30 < t_h_i_c_c> hmmmmmmmmmm
21:30 < Anaphylaxis> Outsourced IT pretty much
21:30 < JFDkthx> Nightcinder: everyone has a toyota camry, or a honda accord/civic
21:30 < t_h_i_c_c> MSP?
21:31 < gnupluslinux> <SpookyCrisp> Like, I can go and look up all of our customers usernames, passwords, and answers to security questions in plain text.
21:31 < gnupluslinux> i am both disgusted and completely unsurprised
21:31 < tsarbomba> the impulse to troll the everloving shit out of these edit-warring monkeys on the cosby wikipedia page is pretty difficult to suppress
21:31 < Nightcinder> JFDkthx: so instead of making their cars better
21:31 < Nightcinder> they're just gonna give up
21:31 < gnupluslinux> im 100% my credit card and bank support reps can see all my data including ssn
21:31 < brucevein> AnimalFarmPig, nginx is listening on port 443
21:31 < Hatter> tsarbomba: can't you just be nice
21:31 < SpookyCrisp> gnupluslinux, Dude, the whole industry doesn't care.
21:31 < tsarbomba> i said difficult, not impossible
21:31 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> JFDkthx, Truth. My Honda is still going after nearly 20 years lol
21:31 < brucevein> setting the api to 443 in config.js makes the app crash because it cant bind port 443
21:31 < gnupluslinux> SpookyCrisp, im well aware
21:31 < SpookyCrisp> gnupluslinux, Like I've gone on and on and on about how this is nuts.
21:31 < AnimalFarmPig> okay, makes sense
21:31 < JFDkthx> Nightcinder: if they focus on whats good in their line, isnt that a win for them?
21:31 < AnimalFarmPig> I was hoping that port # was just used for generating links
21:32 < Nightcinder> i guess
21:32 < Nightcinder> but if gas goes up in price
21:32 < brucevein> so the webapp and the api run on the same port
21:32 < Nightcinder> ford is gonna go RIP
21:32 < brucevein> which is lame
21:32 < JFDkthx> how many non american trucks do you see.
21:32 < brucevein> but somehow this other guy got it working
21:32 < gnupluslinux> my gf sometimes gets weirded out by the some of my more paranoid stuff but she's coming around finally after the facebook thing
21:32 < Nightcinder> actually a decent amount
21:32 < gnupluslinux> lets see how long it lasts this time
21:32 < JFDkthx> Nightcinder: they were the only ones last time that didnt take a bailout
21:32 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Code_Man65, Now you got me thinking I can implement vCACs.
21:32 < JFDkthx> im sure they will survive the enxt one.
21:32 < brucevein> SysAdminGoneCraZ, i run vcac/vra
21:32 < brucevein> its great
21:32 <@Code_Man65> Good SysAdminGoneCraZ
21:32 < JFDkthx> Code_Man65: what do you do for walkup machines
21:32 < brucevein> currently migrating from 6.2.5 to 7.4
21:33 <@Code_Man65> JFDkthx:  Depends on their use case
21:33 < tsarbomba> thing about the financial industry "not caring", spookycrisp, is that there are a fuckton of layers of oversight, all with the legal mandate to care
21:33 < brucevein> AnimalFarmPig, i would be very grateful if you could help me get this working
21:33 < brucevein> cant throw some coins your way
21:33 < tsarbomba> some with criminal prosecution abilities
21:33 < AnimalFarmPig> brucevein: I hate to even suggest this, but you could run it on port 443 in a LXC or Docker (ewwww) container, and then throw nginx in front of that
21:33 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> brucevein, What's vRA?
21:33 < brucevein> vrealize automation is the new name for vcac
21:33 < brucevein> vra
21:33 < JFDkthx> Code_Man65: we have a "internal" domain with walkups for people that dont sit on the inside all the time
21:33 < tsarbomba> just for that i'm going to use docker for EVERYTHING now, animalfarmpig
21:33 < JFDkthx> i wouldnt want to issue every one of those people a cert for that machine would i?
21:34 < AnimalFarmPig> brucevein: or just run it in a separate VM. It's a shitty workaround, but might be less hassle than trying to figure out the build process on this
21:34 < brucevein> AnimalFarmPig, wouldnt the browser still choke because of the cert
21:34 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> brucevein, aHH, GOTCHA.
21:34 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Caps lockl
21:34 < AnimalFarmPig> brucevein: it shouldn't. Browser should just see the nginx instance.
21:34 <@Code_Man65> JFDkthx:  For that kind of situation I'd actually go with contactless smartcard auth
21:34 < brucevein> AnimalFarmPig, but the api would be running in nodejs on 443, not nginx
21:34 < brucevein> and the web front end would still call that to display information
21:35 < AnimalFarmPig> brucevein: that's why I suggest putting it in a container/docker process/separate VM
21:35 < gnupluslinux> whats going on about nginx?
21:35 < AnimalFarmPig> it would call yourhost:443, which would proxy actualappserver:443
21:35 < brucevein> im not sure how to split the api and webapp up
21:35 < brucevein> its all in one project
21:35 < JFDkthx> Code_Man65: so like an rf chip tied into their badge?
21:35 <@Code_Man65> Yep
21:35 <@Code_Man65> There are badges out there that are multiformat and can take up to 10 certs
21:36 < brucevein> AnimalFarmPig, https://explorer.bulwarkcrypto.com/
21:36 < brucevein> headers show nginx for this
21:36 < brucevein> and no browser error
21:36 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Code_Man65, Sounds expensive lol
21:36 < brucevein> the repo i cloned is a fork of this project
21:36 < JFDkthx> the vsmartcard isnt a you have this everywhere or nowhere kind of deal is it.
21:37 < JFDkthx> we can leave it non smartcard enable and allow a pass
21:37 < brucevein> AnimalFarmPig, https://github.com/bulwark-crypto/bulwark-explorer
21:37 <@Code_Man65> SysAdminGoneCraZ:  You need a contactless reader (last I looked they were $25 each) and the smartcards that support it (which last I looked were $20 each)
21:37 < brucevein> i couldnt find any differences here, so i assumed it was something on the nginx/server config
21:37 <@cryptic1> morning
21:37 < DrGibby|> morning, cryptic1
21:38 < felda> haha my favorite mod cryptic1
21:38 < AnimalFarmPig> brucevein: right. What I'm suggesting is this-- run nginx on box A listening on port 443 with cert, etc. Run application on box B listening on port 443 (even though it's plain HTTP). Have nginx on box A proxy port 443 on box B. Set the `host` value in the api config to the hostname of box A and port to 443.
21:38 <@cryptic1> whats up felda?
21:38 < felda> what a great guy
21:39 <@cryptic1> so much sarcasm today
21:39 < Heresiarch> brucevein: what's your nginx config look like?
21:39 <@cryptic1> is it opposite day felda?
21:39 < felda> man cryptic1 your text is looking oftly crisp today
21:40 < AnimalFarmPig> brucevein: using docker (ewwww) makes this slightly easier. You could run the api in a docker container on port 443, expose that as port XYZ on the host machine, then have nginx on host machine proxy port XYZ
21:40 < brucevein> Heresiarch, https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/SPumLzYBLhCXkbifMjMmrw
21:40 <@cryptic1> felda I got something for you
21:40 < felda> ?
21:40 <@cryptic1> 1.1.1.1
21:40 < brucevein> AnimalFarmPig, i understand now, i think
21:40 <@cryptic1> 8.8.8.8
21:40 <@cryptic1> 8.8.4.4
21:40 < felda> >:(
21:40 < felda> DISGUSTING
21:40 < DrGibby|> FELDA AND CRYPTIC SITTIN IN A TREE
21:40 < felda> ewww
21:40 < brucevein> use nginx to proxy /api to the container
21:40 < DrGibby|> K-I-S-S-I-N-G
21:40 < felda> cryptic1 has DNS COOTIES
21:40 <@cryptic1> bwAHAHAHHA
21:40 < brucevein> and also https to the webapp
21:40 <@cryptic1> all the dns for you
21:40 < AnimalFarmPig> yep
21:41 < brucevein> that kind of sucks
21:41 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, it does
21:41 < AnimalFarmPig> there's probably something in the build process for the application to do this properly
21:41 < JFDkthx> cryptic1: left out 1.0.0.1
21:41 <@cryptic1> JFDkthx, that was a surprised for later
21:41 <@cryptic1> you ruined it
21:42 < JFDkthx> good
21:42 < AnimalFarmPig> but I think I dislike building javascript applications even more than I dislike docker, so there you go :)
21:42  * JFDkthx kicks dirt on the suprise
21:42 < Heresiarch> brucevein: change the line "location / {" to read "location ^/ { "
21:43 < tsarbomba> 4.2.2.1 master race
21:43 < DrGibby|> psh
21:43 < abakedapplepie> well there it goes
21:44 < abakedapplepie> they killed him
21:44 < abakedapplepie> dude got what he wanted
21:44 < DrGibby|> 75.75.75.75 master race
21:44 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> abakedapplepie, ???
21:44 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> DrGibby|, Comcast? lol
21:44 < DrGibby|> SysAdminGoneCraZ: 4LYFE
21:45 < Maarten> cloudfare's DNS doesn't seem too bad
21:45 < Maarten> the 1.1.1.1 / 1.0.0.1 ones
21:45 < Maarten> also, quad9: 9.9.9.9
21:45 < DrGibby|> yeah, don't use comcast's dns servers
21:46 < DrGibby|> they're shit
21:46 < DrGibby|> I was joking
21:46 < abakedapplepie> SysAdminGoneCraZ: active shooter across the street from my office, suicide by cop allegedly
21:46 < Maarten> don't use ISP DNS servers, period ;)
21:46 < abakedapplepie> 8 shots were just fired
21:46 < abakedapplepie> immediately followed by the EMS rushing in
21:46 < abakedapplepie> so they were prepared and got him
21:46 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> abakedapplepie, Holy shit
21:46 < ihre> Maarten: but using google's dns is fine? ;p that sounds like botched advice
21:47 <@cryptic1> felda committed DNS against himself!
21:47 < felda> no I NEVER use DNS
21:47 < ihre> also 1.1.1.1 is part of an apnic research project with cf, so you wont know what the fuck they use it for either :p
21:47 < Maarten> ihre, where did I say you should use google's DNS? It's not like they are the only DNS alternative you know.... :P
21:47 < DrGibby|> 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4 // 9.9.9.9 //1.1.1.1/1.0.0.1 are where its at
21:48 < ihre> Maarten: s/google/cf, mb
21:48 < aaa_> https://anonimag.es/
21:49 < ihre> dnscrypt-proxy + https://raw.githubusercontent.com/DNSCrypt/dnscrypt-resolvers/master/v2/public-resolvers.md pick a suitable one would be my advice :p
21:50 < brucevein> Heresiarch, that broke the proxy part
21:50 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> abakedapplepie, is there a news link??
21:51 < Maarten> I typically use 4.2.2.1-6 for DNS, typically 4.2.2.5 and 4.2.2.6 because most people just use the two low numbered ones
21:52 < Anaphylaxis> still cant fucking figure anything out _t_
21:52 < Anaphylaxis> lol its so bs
21:52 < Anaphylaxis> oh he elft
21:52 < Anaphylaxis> t_h_i_c_c, oh no he didnt
21:52 < t_h_i_c_c> no
21:52 < t_h_i_c_c> i'm here
21:52 < t_h_i_c_c> and e x t r a t h i c c
21:53 < t_h_i_c_c> DrGibby|, ew who uses 75.75.75.75
21:53 < t_h_i_c_c> if you want the slowest DNS resolution ever
21:53 < Anaphylaxis> lmao
21:53 < Anaphylaxis> 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1 for dns boii
21:53 < DrGibby|> t_h_i_c_c: hopefully no one
21:54 < t_h_i_c_c> i need to switch back to my normal name now
21:54 < dragonfleas> ok i'm normal me again
21:54 < dragonfleas> it was all an elaborate ruse, i was dragonfleas the whole time
21:54 < aaa_> ??
21:54 < aaa_> * You have been killed by NickServ ((GHOST command used by Labolas!c85b1465@gateway/web/freenode/ip.200.91.20.101))
21:54 < aaa_> don't ban me please why ?
21:54 < Anaphylaxis> u deserve it
21:54 < aaa_> why ?
21:55 < Anaphylaxis> it means Labolas has your password m8 lol
21:55 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> abakedapplepie, Did they say what's going on? Is it a school or something? Link anywhere?
21:55 < Anaphylaxis> or, username
21:55 < abakedapplepie> SysAdminGoneCraZ: condo complex across the street from my office
21:55 < ihre> aaa_: change your fnode nickserv pass :p
21:56 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> abakedapplepie, Welp, there foes your neighborhood.
21:56 < abakedapplepie> no news have picked it up, just some facebook reporting from a guy that works for a local channel
21:56 < abakedapplepie> they had a chopper on scene the whole time but elected not to air it live to possibly help the shooter
21:56 < Maarten> that 2 ms ping to 9.9.9.9 is hard to resist though... 4.2.2.x pings in at 4ms
21:56 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> abakedapplepie, Good call
21:56 < aaa_> why change my pass?
21:56 < aaa_> what is ghost ?
21:57 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> aaa_, Ghost means you disconnect that user, but you need their password to do it.
21:57 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> aaa_, You use the ghost command to log yourself off from a different location
21:58 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> aaa_, You haveto be quick if you have autojoin enabled.
21:58 < DomLS3> ghost is mainly used to disconnect people who are using you're nick
21:58 < DomLS3> err
21:58 < DomLS3> s/'re/r
21:58 <+layer-eight> DomLS3 meant: "ghost is mainly used to disconnect people who are using your nick"
21:58 < AnimalFarmPig> ghost is mostly used if you get disconnected but your normal nick still shows in use
21:59 < DomLS3> ghost is mostly used if you've killed somene in a house and they are too pissed to move on
21:59 < hxcsp> i thought ghost was a movie
21:59 < hxcsp> or a band
21:59 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> AnimalFarmPig, Or in my case, I forget to logg off from work when I go home. :(
21:59 < DomLS3> ghost IS a movie
22:00 < DomLS3> a damn good movie at that
22:00 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> DomLS3, Ditto.
22:00 < DomLS3> SysAdminGoneCraZ: I see what you did there
22:00 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> DomLS3, lol
22:00 < hxcsp> rip patrick swaysze
22:00 < aaa_> ok thank you
22:00 < hxcsp> swayze
22:02 < JFDkthx> hxcsp: swayze was great in the 5th element
22:02 < JFDkthx> prolly my fav role
22:02 < hxcsp> liked him in die hard better
22:02 < DomLS3> JFDkthx: what the fuck
22:02 < DomLS3> swayze was not in the 5th element
22:03 < JFDkthx> him and danny glover was better imo
22:03 < JFDkthx> DomLS3: are you retarded
22:03 < DomLS3> that's bruce willis you fucking twat
22:03 < hxcsp> woosh
22:03 < hxcsp> ;p
22:03 < DomLS3> good god
22:03 < JFDkthx> 8theb8
22:03 < DomLS3> no damn b8
22:03 < DomLS3> you're really probably thought it was swayze
22:04 < JFDkthx> ur 2ez DomLS3
22:04 < hxcsp> but danny glover
22:04 < JFDkthx> thats why you bought a corvette
22:04 < hxcsp> angels in the outfield
22:04 < hxcsp> best movie
22:04 < DomLS3> hxcsp: very good movie
22:04 < DomLS3> also Field Of Dreams
22:04 < DomLS3> People will come Ray
22:05 < JFDkthx> fuck what was that movie about the goofball going to the moon or someshit
22:05 < JFDkthx> armageddon
22:05 < JFDkthx> swayze was great in that
22:05 < DomLS3> lol
22:05 < hxcsp> no no
22:05 < hxcsp> that was journey to the center of the earth
22:05 < JFDkthx> they even wrote a song for matt damon
22:05 < hxcsp> where they go to the moon
22:07 < JFDkthx> bruce willis was really good in me myself and irene
22:07 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> JFDkthx, IDK, but Swayze was even better in Escape from LA.
22:07 <@ravioli> shawshank will always be his best
22:08 <@ravioli> imo
22:08 < DomLS3> shawshank/green mile
22:08 < DomLS3> Top Gun is up there too
22:08 < hxcsp> why are we talking about movies. We should be talking about video games
22:08 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> ravioli, OH SHIT! THAT"S RIGHT! when he played that black guy.
22:08 < hxcsp> learning to play the ocarina as zelda was the best
22:08 < JFDkthx> i'll never forget when ur grandpa give you the sword "zelda it's dangerous to go outside, take this"
22:09 < JFDkthx> classic villian too
22:09 < JFDkthx> cannondolf
22:09 < DomLS3> Labia Majora's mask was better
22:09 < JFDkthx> Casteil: i have planers showing up in my amazon now. thanks.
22:10 < Casteil> :P
22:10 < JFDkthx> i dont know why every git book isnt named git gud
22:10 < JFDkthx> like
22:10 < JFDkthx> really
22:10 < arlion> ooo.. that's clever
22:10 < arlion> git fetch gud
22:11 < arlion> or are you saying the repo is called "git gud"
22:11 < JFDkthx> if you git gud it should automagically download a git for dummies book
22:11 < arlion> so it would be git clone git gud
22:11 < arlion> git checkout -b git gud noobie
22:12 < JFDkthx> thats the type of stuff that would be in the book
22:12 < JFDkthx> wellmaybe its a one pager
22:12 < JFDkthx> and has that command
22:12 < JFDkthx> then you get the full book
22:12 < JFDkthx> nahmsayin
22:13 < arlion> This is what I use when I have to git
22:13 < arlion> http://ohshitgit.com/
22:13 < JFDkthx> hxcsp: for real though, im stoked for the new super mario smash brothers game
22:13 < arlion> modify that a bit, you have a good website
22:13 <+NinjaStyle> It's bring your kids to work day
22:13 <+NinjaStyle> So naturally we are all wfh
22:13 < hxcsp> NinjaStyle: no. thats not a good idea
22:14 < arlion> NinjaStyle: kids to work day?
22:14 < arlion> did people actually do it
22:14 <+NinjaStyle> And I keep getting emails about ice cream and chick fil a
22:14 < hxcsp> Who has an empty server cabinet so i can lock my kids in it for the day
22:14 < hxcsp> Half size is fine
22:14 <+NinjaStyle> arlion: yeah tons of people did
22:14 < arlion> hxcsp: all I can do is this quarter cabinet
22:14 < JFDkthx> do they have a clearance?
22:14 <+NinjaStyle> Lol
22:14 < hxcsp> arlion: if you can throw in some cage nuts its a deal
22:15 < hxcsp> im not sacrificing any of my blood today
22:15 < JFDkthx> arlion: put them in the subfloor
22:15 <+NinjaStyle> Most of our work isn't sensitive outside of NDA
22:15 < arlion> Yeah sersiously, the Director has a newborn and even SHE can't bring her newborn into the office. Everyone in this building has explicit clearence
22:15 <+NinjaStyle> Unless you're in the DC office
22:15 < arlion> JFDkthx: give them a flash light and tell them there is candy to find.
22:16 < JFDkthx> arlion: last time we cleaned the subfloor we found an old six pack under the bosses desk
22:16 < arlion> NinjaStyle: that's retarded, who wants to hear all my loud cursing and watch my type words into terminal all day.
22:17 < arlion> JFDkthx: that's a nice bonus.
22:17 < arlion> I can't wait to have my own office where I can store whiskey in my drawer cabinet.
22:17 < Casteil> haha
22:18 < Casteil> well I think I'm going to go get my new weedwacker running and give it a whirl
22:19 <+NinjaStyle> im really productive when i wfh
22:19 < DomLS3> s/weedwacker/dildo
22:19 <+layer-eight> Casteil meant: "well I think I'm going to go get my new dildo running and give it a whirl"
22:20 <+NinjaStyle> arlion: theyre making it a whole thing for the kids
22:20 <+NinjaStyle> my dept even has to do a presentation to the kids
22:21 < AnimalFarmPig> "... so, in summary kids, every time you visit a website, it's only operational because people like us keep it running with whiskey and foul language."
22:21 < hxcsp> quote of the day
22:24 < arlion> And now, we are giving everyone a raspberry pi home. It's "for you" (but it's really for the parents.)
22:32 < BadFontKeming> DomLS3: drilldo?
22:38 < DrGibby|> Sousapro: I was going to correct the last word in your previous nick but then I got the joke
22:38 < DrGibby|> its been a long day :(
22:38 < Sousapro> it's only a joke if it's funny :(
22:38 < Sousapro> sorry it's been a long day
22:39 < DrGibby|> it was funny, it made my smile
22:39 < DrGibby|> s/my/me
22:39 <+layer-eight> DrGibby| meant: "it was funny, it made me smile"
22:39 < DrGibby|> I just really want to go home
22:46 < vinrock> casteil is it a STIHL???
22:47 < Spr1ng> o/
22:48 < Spr1ng> Any Sharepoint experts here?
22:49 < dragonfleas> WTF IS HAPPENING
22:49 < Spr1ng> Trying to figure out how to make a Document Library webpart only show a specific sub-folder instead of the Document Library root.
22:49 < Spr1ng> boom thats whats happening
22:51 < mal_will> I forgot a tupperware in the work fridge for a few weeks.
22:52 < mal_will> now the question is, throw it away or take it to my desk in shame
22:52 < mal_will> It's nice tupperware :\
22:52 < Spr1ng> omg where's the #reddit-sysadmin-personal-support channel?
22:54 < SynMonger> just wash it out with some hand soap so it won't accidentally pop open and stink up the place
22:54 < mal_will> We don't have a disposal unfortunately, I thought of it SynMonger ++
22:55 < mal_will> Do offices usually have garbage disposals?
22:55 < SynMonger> empty gross solids in toilet
22:56 < mal_will> Maybe I can use a letter opener to jam the leftover lasagne in the burn box
22:56 < SynMonger> LOL
22:56 < mal_will> Toilet is actually a good option
22:56 < SynMonger> or put it above the drop ceiling in the office of your nemesis
22:56 < mal_will> but then'll see me bring my lasagne to the bathroom...new scarlet letter to paint on myself
22:56 < mal_will> everyone is my nemesis tho
22:56 < mal_will> cut tiny chunks for all of them
22:57 < mal_will> I think I gotta cut my losses
22:58 <@ravioli> what
22:58 <@ravioli> is this really lasagna?
22:58 < mal_will> yee
22:58 < mal_will> your cousin
22:58 <@ravioli> you eat it
22:58 <@ravioli> you eat that shit
22:58 < mal_will> it's old man
22:58 < mal_will> hella old
22:58 <@ravioli> idgaf
22:58 < mal_will> :|
22:58 <@ravioli> you don't waste lasagna
22:58 < SynMonger> the green bits are flavor boosters
22:58 < mal_will> maybe the microwave will kill the death growing on it?
22:58 < dragonfleas> one time i had to clean diarrhea water out of an IDF because the sewage return line flooded the walls up to the ceiling and exploded all over the data closet
22:58 < dragonfleas> good times being a technician
22:59 < mal_will> oh my god
22:59 < dragonfleas> there was so much wet toilet paper and poop
22:59 < dragonfleas> it was everywhere
22:59 < SynMonger> dragonfleas: I shouldn't laugh at that, but my god it sounds like something that would happen here
22:59 < dragonfleas> SynMonger, do you work at a casino? lmaao
22:59 < dragonfleas> yeah it was bad because we had just had an event
22:59 < dragonfleas> but
23:00 < SynMonger> a college, so... in a way
23:00 < mal_will> I accidentally added broccoli as the side to today's lunch instead of a biscuit. real disappointed in myself. Wasting lasagna and broccoli all willy nilly
23:00 < dragonfleas> i was able to squeegee it away from the hardware then i had environmental services come clean it up
23:00 < dragonfleas> an i went home early
23:00 < mal_will> I'm gonna leave that broccoli in the fire extinguisher cabinet
23:00 < audia5> lasagna and spinach is okay
23:00 < dragonfleas> i told my boss "hey i was just up to my knees in biohazard i'm going home and taking a shower bye
23:00 < mal_will> dang dragonfleas
23:00 < dragonfleas> he said "see ya dude"
23:00 < dragonfleas> lmao
23:00 < mal_will> He shoulda bought you lunch
23:00 < dragonfleas> i have a bunch of crazy technician stories
23:01 < dragonfleas> i was on the ladder running cable in the ceiling, two guys broke out at a slot machine by my ladder, one dude drove the other into the ladder and i was left dangling out of the ceiling
23:01 < SynMonger> closest I've come was a burst water pipe on the floor above an IDF, had to drop plastic over everything
23:01 <@ravioli>  /mode -o ravioli
23:01 <@ravioli> FUCK
23:01 < dragonfleas> luckily i was able to pull myself up into the ceiling and stand on a steel framing until my boss came and put the ladder back up fro me
23:02 < dragonfleas>  /mode +v dragonfleas
23:02 < dragonfleas> is what you meant to say ravioli
23:02 < mal_will> lol
23:03 < mal_will> I don't know enough about netflow. There. I said it
23:03 < SynMonger> I did have to mop the tables in a computer lab because they were so covered in rat turds I couldn't change out the computers
23:03 < mal_will> :{
23:04 < SynMonger> it was an airport hangar, so there's lots of ways in for the lil buggers
23:05 < mal_will> I worked in a school district, so there were boogers everywhere
23:06 < mal_will> pencils and hot cheeto bags in every disk drive
23:07 < SynMonger> lovely
23:08 < SynMonger> I worked with a guy way back that hated his monitor. CRT model and LCDs were just coming on the market.
23:09 < SynMonger> So he'd straighten a paperclip every morning and drop it in through one of the holes of the monitor
23:10 < SynMonger> it took a few months, but finally one morning it let out the magic smoke
23:11 < SynMonger> luckily it didn't take us all with it
23:11 < tsarbomba> anyone here have an alternate set of pronouns?
23:12 <+CheckYourSix> SynMonger: Lol wow. I forgot monitors had holes it's been so long
23:12 <+CheckYourSix> tsarbomba: Does attack helicopter count?
23:13 <@JollyRgrs> tsarbomba: fe fim and fu
23:13 < tsarbomba> >adjust printer color mode to "none"
23:13 < tsarbomba> >printer prints in color anyway
23:13 < tsarbomba> ffffffffffff
23:13 < tsarbomba> i'm not sure what the pronouns for an attack helicopter are
23:13 < tsarbomba> i suppose they're whatever the helicopter wants them to be
23:14 <@JollyRgrs> i know the pronouns for a warthog (a-10)
23:14 <@JollyRgrs> BRRRRRT
23:14 < DrGibby|> brrrrrrrrrrrrrt
23:14 < tsarbomba> ++
23:14 <@JollyRgrs> and brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt
23:14 < DrGibby|> s/r/rr
23:14 <+layer-eight> JollyRgrs meant: "and brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt"
23:14 <@JollyRgrs> nah, can't waste bullets
23:14 < DrGibby|> lots of bad guys
23:15 <@JollyRgrs> unlikely THAT many bad guys are in the same line
23:15 <@JollyRgrs> brrrtrrrrrtrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt
23:15 < DrGibby|> dont rain on my parade, JollyRgrs
23:15 < mkillebrew> I miss my old CRT
23:15 < mal_will> I go by noodlemachine tsarbomba
23:15 <@JollyRgrs> mkillebrew: you miss putting on a "blank screen" screen saver so it doesn't take 2 minutes to turn back on but yet doesn't burn in your screen?
23:16 < SOLxCrono> lol
23:16 < mkillebrew> never had burn-in issues, would just swap it to my IRC TTY
23:16 <@JollyRgrs> now i can forget and leave my screen on ALL DAY LONG, or have it blank out in 2 minutes... either way, screen comes RIGHT BACK ON
23:16 <@JollyRgrs> mkillebrew: no constant lines/chan names/etc?
23:17 <@JollyRgrs> not everything scrolls in IRC
23:17 < xtensive> DEGAUSS !
23:17 < mkillebrew> mine did
23:18 < SynMonger> my last crt monitor was a 21" monster that would break my back lugging it to lan parties
23:18 < mal_will> I tried to look at a crt recently
23:18 < mkillebrew> I had a smallish one, like a 13" maybe, that was Super freaking deep. It looked so crisp
23:19 < mal_will> so dark and fuzzy and bad
23:19 < xtensive> I still have a few in my basement
23:19 < tsarbomba> and of course sql needs to start fucking with me at the end of the day
23:19 < mal_will> this was in an art museum-you should make something xtensive
23:19 < xtensive> I'm not very creative tho mal_will D:
23:20 < mal_will> show aim convos and fuzzy porn-sell it
23:20 < mal_will> profit
23:21 < xtensive> I wonder if hipsters are into CRT's
23:22 <@JollyRgrs> s/are/can fit/
23:22 <+layer-eight> xtensive meant: "I wonder if hipsters can fit into CRT's"
23:22 <+NinjaStyle> hwut, okaaaay
23:22 < mal_will> lil jon is gonna sue you NinjaStyle
23:23 <+NinjaStyle> hwut
23:23 < mal_will> lol
23:31 < GreyKite> don't the FPS guys still drool over CRTs?
23:32 <+CheckYourSix> I think most have moved on to TN LCDs
23:33 < mal_will> Rear projection is life
23:33 < SynMonger> I know early on nobody in my gaming group wanted an LCD because the ghosting was awful
23:34 < SynMonger> I don't think that's been an issue for 10 years now
23:34 < asimon> I think CRT's are still the standard for competetive super smash bros
23:34 < bomb> any automobile nerd around?
23:34 < bomb> what do you think about chevy cruze?
23:35 < xtensive> CRT's are great for MAME setups too
23:35 < xtensive> for the old skool feel
23:35 < xtensive> bomb, I think the real people not actors is a LIE
23:35 < tsarbomba> s/feel/fewl
23:35 <+layer-eight> xtensive meant: "for the old skool fewl"
23:36 < bomb> xtensive: chevy cruze is not a person, is a car
23:36 < hxcsp> chevy chase is a person
23:36 < GreyKite> cruze is a car
23:36 < bomb> fine, i have no intension to ride him/her
23:36 < hxcsp> intention
23:37 < bomb> intention
23:37 < mal_will> why the cruze bomb
23:37 < bomb> mal_will: i don't know. i want a family car and it looks cool
23:37 < mal_will> vvvtantacion* fixid it for you hxcsp
23:38 < hxcsp> xxxtentatcion
23:38 < mal_will> OH man, I typed that on my phone a just wrecked it
23:38 < mal_will> all round failwhale
23:41 < xtensive> was talking about the terrible chevy commercials bomb
23:47 < catbeard> wutup
23:49 < bomb> i'm planning to get 2012-13 chevrolet cruze catbeard
23:49 < catbeard> nice
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