--- Log opened Sun Apr 29 00:00:02 2018
00:02 < sideup66> When is 5g gonna be a thing
00:02 < rpifan> its otw
00:03 < SleePy> When real 4g is out
00:03 < sideup66> Wot
00:03 < rpifan> its called LTE advanced
00:04 < bomb> Deluxe Edition
00:06 < sideup66> Lol
00:06 < sideup66> Also, when is the 835 getting a successor
00:06 < sideup66> Or is qualcomm Intel now
00:14 < sideup66> I'd love to run lineage and root on my phone with a dark theme
00:17 <@NinjaStyle> Daiwo: weird I had no idea that was a thing
00:18 < Daiwo> not that weird.. I didn't neither .... and google is so useless nowadays.. nothing to point on the obvious.
00:19 < Daiwo> useless when used without a black belt google fu I mean..
00:28 < A-KO> whoa
00:28 < A-KO> NinjaStyle is an op?
00:28 < A-KO> wait I lost voice again
00:28 < A-KO> ?
00:28 < A-KO> :(
00:31 < Church-> heh
00:31 < Church-> NinjaStyle: Still waiting. :P
00:33  * czarbomba gesticulates wildly!
00:37 < Church-> heh
00:40 < sideup66> Why does jboss exist
00:40 < sideup66> Why do we need java to run a webserver 😥
00:40 < sideup66> It's 2018....use nginx
00:40 < sideup66> Or java
00:40 < sideup66> I mean Apache*
00:41 <+voidstar> tomcat?
00:41 <+voidstar> flask?
00:41 < czarbomba> i'm confused. is it 2018 or do you want us to use apache
00:42 < sideup66> What's wrong with Apache, knock on it for being old but it fucking works
00:43 < sideup66> Still better than java
00:45 < sideup66> And if it has a problem, it's the retard who set it up, stop training people to use hipster shit like java
00:48 < mkillebrew> What does the current year have to do with anything?
00:49 <+voidstar> the pain in my knees
00:49 < sideup66> mkillebrew: java made sense in the 90s because no good way to do cross platform existed, then it was good. Now you have hipsters from India and California who write crap and think *everything* should have java
00:51 < mkillebrew> I mean Apache
00:52 < sideup66> Oh
00:52 < sideup66> It doesn't with thst
00:52 < sideup66> Just an old dog that is old faithful imho
00:52 < mkillebrew> oh, I see, you meant for him to use nginx or apache, not nginx instead of apache
00:52 < mkillebrew> it's hard to decipher what the fuck you mean
00:55 < sideup66> Sry, my stink is just the obsession with java
00:55 < sideup66> And crappy code that runs on it
00:55 < sideup66> And the crazy marketing Oracle/sun did to get it there
00:56 <@NinjaStyle> I'm an open currently
00:56 <@NinjaStyle> Doubt it will last
00:56 <@NinjaStyle> Op*
01:03 < czarbomba> youtube doesn't have one of those 10 hour mixes of the punk breakdown at the end of the RHCP cover of "higher ground"
01:03 < czarbomba> i should remedy that
01:05 < Daiwo> youtube doesn't have a repeat playback controller option.. they should remedy that
01:06 <+voidstar> https://youtubeloop.net/ ?
01:06 < Daiwo> oh, its too advanced and prone to get casual users confused, hence loosing market share
01:06 < layer-yourmom> * voidstar →  Repeat YouTube videos! Loop YouTube Videos! Repeat full or partial YouTube videos using YouTube Loop
01:06 < Daiwo> voidstar: thx for sharing ;)
01:08 < Daiwo> there must be some deannoyifying userscript for youtube doing it..
01:09 < czarbomba> "we want our sport to be hip and relevant to younger generations" *peter frampton starts playing on the PA*
01:15 < JollyRgrs> czarbomba: who said that?
01:29 < BytesAndCoffee> 50ft cat6 ethernet > wifi through 12" concrete wall
01:30 < BytesAndCoffee> also DSL installer for subsidary ISP of the ILEC saying my modem/router from the CLEC im with right now is "too small"
01:30 < BytesAndCoffee> what does size have to do with it?
01:30 < BytesAndCoffee> or was he bragging about his literal e-peen
01:30 < BytesAndCoffee> "our modem/router is bigger!"
01:31 < BytesAndCoffee> yeah and its also a 2.4GHz box of crap
01:31 < suttin> BytesAndCoffee:  pfsense?
01:31 < BytesAndCoffee> with not even half of the configuration options
01:31 < BytesAndCoffee> suttin: don't summon f e l d a
01:31 < suttin> F e l d a
01:31 < suttin> E
01:31 < suttin> L
01:31 < suttin> D
01:31 < suttin> A
01:38 < czarbomba> https://twitter.com/TheDweck/status/990227432207765505
01:38 < layer-yourmom> * czarbomba →  Jess Dweck on Twitter: "Kanye’s new verse sounds like Bill Cosby trying to pump himself up to take a public prison shit… "
01:40 < czarbomba> jollyrgrs, one of the ownership group of formula 1
01:40 < czarbomba> he was being interviewed after a race
01:40 < czarbomba> i nearly fell out of my chair laughing because of the timing. it was nearly instantaneous
01:56 <+DrGibby|> hi fam
01:59 <+CheckYourSix> DrGibby|: Live PD in an hour
01:59 <+DrGibby|> indeed
01:59 <+DrGibby|> join us over in #livepd
02:00 <+DrGibby|> we'll be discussing the show in realtime
02:00 < TuxedoJack> "Fucking AT&T
02:01 < TuxedoJack> 04/27/2018 9:57 PM CDTSERVICE IS STILL DOWN - ISOLATION CONTINUES | 04/27/2018 10:58 PM CDTYOUR TICKET IS CLOSED. IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER TROUBLE WITH AT&T PROVIDED SERVICES, PLEASE CONTACT AT&T.
02:01 < TuxedoJack> Useless fucks
02:01 < TuxedoJack> For fucking SLA'd fiber service
02:02 <+DrGibby|> yeah we bailed on them this year
02:02 <+DrGibby|> because they don't do a great jerb
02:04 <+CheckYourSix> Random curiosity, if you had the option of Google Fiber at work (or AT&T or whoever) at 1000/1000, would you do it? Or maybe do that and have an SLA'd fiber line coming from a different company at say 50/50 (or whatever bare minimum to get buy if the 1000/1000 went down?)
02:05 < TuxedoJack> You get both and do failover
02:05 <+CheckYourSix> Kinda what I was thinking
02:05 <+CheckYourSix> Then you get speed and reliability
02:05 < TuxedoJack> Put phones on SLA'd circuit, all other crap on the shitbox
02:05 < suttin> ^
02:05 < TuxedoJack> With redundant DNS / MX for anything hosted on-prem
02:05 < suttin> maybe even AD on the SLA circuit
02:06 < TuxedoJack> Just QoS the shit out of it if the primary fails over
02:06 <+DrGibby|> have both of the lines SLA'd
02:06 < TuxedoJack> https://expressticketing.acss.att.com/expressticketing/etstatus/index.html - plug in ticket BE111161 and laugh your asses off
02:06 < layer-yourmom> * TuxedoJack →  AT&T Express Ticketing Status Application
02:06 <+DrGibby|> no sense in not
02:07 <+CheckYourSix> 1000/1000 SLA is $$$$$
02:07 < czarbomba> anyone have suggestions on which cell phone camera setting to use with LED lamps
02:07 < TuxedoJack> DrGibby|: you got the money for gigabit fiber SLA?
02:07 <+DrGibby|> like... what, $1100 maybe?
02:07 <+voidstar> state TuxedoJack ?
02:07 < TuxedoJack> voidstar: TX
02:07 <+CheckYourSix> DrGibby|: It costs that much for 100/100...
02:07 <+DrGibby|> TuxedoJack: we have 3x gigabit feeds now
02:07 <+DrGibby|> CheckYourSix: then you're getting fucked
02:07 < czarbomba> are you guys saying you want more
02:07 < TuxedoJack> DrGibby|: Seton / Ascension paid a metric FUCKTON for that for multiple gigabit SLA links with AT&T / Spectrum / Grande in Austin
02:07  * czarbomba puts on aviators
02:07 < czarbomba> gibbybytes?
02:08 < TuxedoJack> Seriously, triple-redundant fiber links for each hospital
02:08 <+DrGibby|> most we pay for a single circuit is $1700/m
02:08 <+CheckYourSix> DrGibby|: Dunno. I don't have access to cost, but I know we have 20/20 at my building and it was a fight to get from 10/10 to 20/20... and the 60 year old AT&T tech thinks it's more bandwidth than any business could ever possibly need... and says they have businesses just fine on 5/5 (go back to 1995 dude or retire)
02:09 <+DrGibby|> CheckYourSix: you need to find a different carrier man
02:09 <+DrGibby|> there are plenty of them out there
02:09 < coderphive> My dudes
02:09 < coderphive> https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=45&v=0vNoR4Yb4Gc
02:09 < layer-yourmom> * coderphive →  Beech Grove Walmart fight part 1 - YouTube
02:09 < coderphive> Feast your eyes on this.
02:10 < czarbomba> 20x20 sync from at&t?
02:10 <+CheckYourSix> DrGibby|: Can't, $megacorp, zero control over it
02:10  * czarbomba puzzled
02:10 <+CheckYourSix> czarbomba: Yes
02:10 < czarbomba> that's...not a thing in residential?
02:10 <+CheckYourSix> TuxedoJack: That ticket is dumb... barely even english
02:10 <+CheckYourSix> czarbomba: Commercial
02:10 <+CheckYourSix> DLA'
02:10 <+CheckYourSix> SLA'd fiber
02:10 < coderphive> I don't think AT&T does sync unless it's MPLS
02:10 < czarbomba> oh. sorry. misread 'at my building'
02:10 < czarbomba> why won't th4ey upgrade you
02:10 < TuxedoJack> CheckYourSix: it's fucking retarded, that's what it is
02:10 <+CheckYourSix> Cause $megacorp has to do a bandwidth study to see if it's worth increasing the bandwidth for us compared to the cost...
02:10 < coderphive> If you have MPLS that's your shit is expensive
02:11 < TuxedoJack> We had people there talking with AT&T
02:11 < czarbomba> p.s. the reason your boomer tech doesn't understand the need for bandwidth is because he became an att tech (or remained one) not having the cash to retire
02:11 <+CheckYourSix> Our global HQ, with 800 ish people, has 100/100....
02:11 < czarbomba> hence why he thinks 5x5 is sufficient
02:11 <+DrGibby|> coderphive: the kid even gives into it
02:11 < TuxedoJack> CheckYourSix: 100/100 for an 800-user campus? Eeesh
02:11 < coderphive> DrGibby| dude, I know, So fucking cringe.
02:11 < czarbomba> there are plenty of millennials on that same track, btw
02:11 <+DrGibby|> WHITE TRAAAAAASH
02:11 < coderphive> DrGibby| He's like really beating on her too
02:11 <+CheckYourSix> TuxedoJack: And only 60/60 ish is usable by them. The rest is split off for executives, phones, etc...
02:11 < czarbomba> hey i resemble that remark
02:11 < coderphive> DrGibby| That woman must subject him to some awful shit
02:11 <+DrGibby|> coderphive: yeah man, like...
02:12 < TuxedoJack> CheckYourSix: what the fuck, man
02:12 <+DrGibby|> its so fucked up
02:12 < czarbomba> split off for phones, i get
02:12 < czarbomba> but executives?
02:12 < czarbomba> executives don't even spend that much time in the office
02:12 < coderphive> stop
02:12 < czarbomba> fuck executives
02:12 <+CheckYourSix> I have zero control over that...
02:12 < coderphive> He has MPLS
02:12 < czarbomba> you have some control. do you know how to build a remote detonator?
02:12 < coderphive> end of discussion
02:12 <+CheckYourSix> I'm dumbfounded they don't have 1000/1000 there
02:12 < TuxedoJack> czarbomba: what would be REALLY fun would be to start executive traffic at normal speed... then throttle down to 56K
02:12 < coderphive> It's probably because of the phones
02:12 < czarbomba> lol coderphive
02:12 < TuxedoJack> If they use more than X amount of bandwidth an hour
02:12 <+CheckYourSix> Global HQ of a Fortune 500...
02:12 < coderphive> like I just went over this with my company
02:13 < coderphive> Stop paying for analog phones and you'll stop paying for guaranteed speeds
02:13 <+DrGibby|> I'm surprised there isn't L3 in there
02:13 < czarbomba> cy6 this is not the tv show 'billions'. this is 2018 and you can't even get faster than 60x60 for your "fortune 500". fuck the executives and reclaim your meager fucking bandwidth
02:13 < czarbomba> or get a new gig
02:13 < coderphive> DrGibby| L3 white labels with a shit ton of companies
02:13 < coderphive> Ours was "Time Warner"
02:13 <+CheckYourSix> Billions is great
02:13 < coderphive> jk it was L3
02:13 < czarbomba> yeah it is
02:13 < czarbomba> I'M LIKE 2 EPS BEHIND RN SO SHSHSHSHSSH
02:13 <+DrGibby|> coderphive: I'm aware, but for F500 companies they like to stamp their name on it
02:14 <+CheckYourSix> I can't wait for tomorrow's episode
02:14 <+DrGibby|> coderphive: sure TW wasn't just the last mile?
02:14 < czarbomba> apparently that english ginger actor is somehow fantastic at playing american scumbags
02:14 < coderphive> DrGibby| Yeap, some are actually owned by L3 up to the LM
02:14 < coderphive> That was our case
02:14 < coderphive> $1200/m for 10/10 with one of those special analog phone lines
02:14 <+DrGibby|> I'm talking about L3 building the network right to prem
02:14 < coderphive> I forget what they're called
02:14 < coderphive> it was a nightmare
02:15 <+DrGibby|> thats what f500 companies do
02:15 < czarbomba> coderphive i swear shit like that is enough to turn someone into a communist
02:15 < coderphive> czarbomba well, before SIP that's the way it had to be
02:15 < czarbomba> even though it wouldn't help because these exorbitant prices and localized monopolies were created by our very "capitalist" govt to begin with
02:15 < czarbomba> (again this is ECONOMICS not POL)
02:15  * czarbomba stares
02:15 < coderphive> Phones had to be guaranteed for 911 so you had to pay for guaranteed internet for "voip"
02:15 < czarbomba> that's been worked around now, right?
02:15 < coderphive> It has nothing to do with monopolies and everything to do with guaranteed service
02:15 < czarbomba> the ILEC 911 shit
02:16 < coderphive> That's SIP
02:16 < coderphive> totally different protocol
02:16 < czarbomba> yeah there's legislation now
02:16 < coderphive> sigh
02:16 < czarbomba> i don't know i faintly remember it was finally worked through
02:16 < coderphive> Look
02:16 < czarbomba> i'm not dickbumping your 1337 ILEC KNOWLEDGE, autist
02:16 < czarbomba> so stop pumping out your fucking chest tout de suite
02:16 < coderphive> haha I'm not pumping my chest
02:16 < coderphive> but people get misinformed easily
02:16 < czarbomba> s/get misinformed/learn not to care
02:16 < layer-yourmom> [SED czarbomba/coderphive] but people learn not to care easily
02:17 < coderphive> There's a reason those lines are expensive
02:17 < suttin> internet is srs bsns
02:17 < czarbomba> okay the recent updates to the replace script are dumb
02:17 < czarbomba> a) get rid of "SED" immediately
02:17 < czarbomba> b) lose the nicks or make it more human-sounding
02:17 < czarbomba> coderphive, acknowledged
02:17 < czarbomba> but we have the means to work around it now
02:17 < czarbomba> or they are coming
02:17 < coderphive> anyway, my company was in the same position
02:17 < czarbomba> there are other options, even for f500
02:17 < coderphive> We just bumped over to consumer internet with a sip service
02:18 < coderphive> onsip.com if you're interested
02:18 < czarbomba> who'd you end up using for pbx
02:18 < czarbomba> ah
02:18 < coderphive> They're pretty slick
02:18 < coderphive> I want to remember what those phone lines are called
02:19 < czarbomba> well i'm old like that at&t guy (sorta) so i think of T1 when you talk about pain in the ass phone-related legislation/regulation
02:19 < coderphive> it's essentially a T1 phone line though
02:19 < coderphive> ridiculous
02:19 <+DrGibby|> pri?
02:19 < coderphive> yes ^
02:19 < coderphive> PRI
02:19 < czarbomba> plus of course even bonded T1s could only do so much and you quickly outgrow that shit
02:19 <+DrGibby|> coderphive: that'll be $10
02:19 < czarbomba> hateful times
02:19 < coderphive> DrGibby| come to Dallas
02:19 < coderphive> got u fam
02:20 <+DrGibby|> coderphive: just mail it you cheap sob
02:20 < coderphive> u rite
02:20 < coderphive> fedex'ing now
02:20 < czarbomba> hahaha
02:20 <+DrGibby|> danke
02:20 < czarbomba> bro do you even courier
02:20 < czarbomba> bike courier. the whole way
02:20 < czarbomba> dollar a mile
02:20 <+DrGibby|> lol
02:20 <+DrGibby|> that would be funny
02:20 < coderphive> I mean
02:20 <+DrGibby|> "I want to bike courier this 2000 miles"
02:21 <+DrGibby|> "MUST be 100% on bike"
02:21 < coderphive> If you understand the history of DS and OC lines, they serve a great purpose
02:21 < coderphive> but it's a process of iterative innovation
02:21 < coderphive> SIP is a game changer, though I think in the end it costs just as much as PRI
02:21 < coderphive> at least you don't have that massive upfront cost though
02:21 < czarbomba> probably to do it right, as solid as, etc.
02:21 < coderphive> yeah
02:22 < czarbomba> not everyone gets away with running a freepbx remote instance and sticking a third of your staff with sip phones remotely
02:22 < coderphive> meh bruh
02:22 < czarbomba> which is cheap but fraught with points of failure
02:22 < coderphive> There's 2 things I refuse to run
02:22 < czarbomba> asterisk
02:22 < coderphive> PBX's and email servers
02:22 < czarbomba> oh heh
02:22 < coderphive> Outsource that pain
02:22 < czarbomba> it's outsourced with the exception of administration
02:23 < coderphive> That's why I picked OnSip
02:23 < czarbomba> once i get a good series of backups all we'd need the vendor to do is blow up the instance and recreate
02:23 < coderphive> it enable self-service
02:23 < czarbomba> then we restore config bing boom
02:23 < coderphive> plus they have API's
02:23 < coderphive> so when we onboard a new employee
02:23 < coderphive> bam
02:23 < coderphive> phone line
02:23 < czarbomba> we just have the exposed features of asterisk
02:23 < czarbomba> plentiful but badly-documented
02:23 < coderphive> Do you guys run one of those asterisk-in-a-box things?
02:24 < coderphive> like FreePBX or whatever
02:24 < czarbomba> it's just asterisk on a remote host
02:24 < coderphive> ah
02:24 < czarbomba> i think they set up freepbx on the front end
02:24 < czarbomba> i use it to make sure shit is running
02:24 < czarbomba> if i configure, i ssh in
02:24 < coderphive> Technically you could hook up SIP signaling to asterisk
02:24 < czarbomba> asterisk to me is one of those things that mostly just works but makes everybody hate it
02:24 < coderphive> I think
02:24 < coderphive> Asterisk/Twilio
02:24 < czarbomba> everybody who admins it
02:25 < coderphive> idk
02:25 < coderphive> We're all SWE's, so we don't have any traditional "admin/ops" staff
02:26 < coderphive> Well, other than my background
02:26 < coderphive> so running email and a pbx was like... nahhh
02:26 < czarbomba> asterisk: "hey, at least you're not fucking with nortel"
02:26 <+DrGibby|> I'd rather write custom snort rules by hand
02:26 < coderphive> kek
02:26 < coderphive> x2
02:26 <+DrGibby|> than deal with either of those systems
02:26 < coderphive> ^
02:26 < czarbomba> gibby loool
02:27 <+DrGibby|> :)
02:27 < coderphive> If we find a service with API's and a reasonable price, I'm happy to offload
02:27 < coderphive> it costs us less money in the end
02:27 <+DrGibby|> I come up with good ones occasionally
02:27 < mkillebrew> You don't pluralize with an apostrophe.
02:28 <+DrGibby|> no one cares mkillebrew
02:28 < mkillebrew> I care
02:28 < coderphive> Grammar nazi iz in
02:28 <+DrGibby|> my point still stand's
02:28 < coderphive> rip
02:28 < mkillebrew> Being correct isn't being a nazi
02:28 <+DrGibby|> no one cares mkillebrew
02:28 < coderphive> Yes it is you socialist
02:28 < mkillebrew> I still care
02:29 < mkillebrew> Nazis weren't socialists
02:29 < czarbomba> millebrew whats the deal with your compulsion's to correct spelling and grammer?
02:29 <+DrGibby|> 30 minutes until livepd!
02:29 < coderphive> r/spelling and grammer/errthang
02:29 < czarbomba> r/s
02:29 < czarbomba> s/r/s
02:29 < layer-yourmom> [SED czarbomba] s/s
02:29 < mkillebrew> I'm trying to help you be better people.
02:29 < czarbomba> ah i fucked it all up now
02:29 < coderphive> lmao
02:30 < coderphive> mkillebrew I'm already a bad person
02:30 < czarbomba> better living through grammar OCD
02:30 < coderphive> s/I'm already a bad person/I'm already a bad person;
02:30 < layer-yourmom> [SED coderphive] mkillebrew I'm already a bad person;
02:31 < czarbomba> right now he's sitting at his desk staring at the screen with a flopsweat mumbling "you...must...finish...that...sentence..."
02:31 < coderphive> lmao
02:31 < czarbomba> inb4 "multiple ellipses are a crime against humanity"
02:32 < coderphive> some small farm animal is going to die tonight for our sins
02:32 < czarbomba> bahahahaha
02:32 < czarbomba> https://www.amazon.com/Ways-Spot-Psychopath-Personal-Relationships-ebook/dp/B00Q53GAFA
02:32 < mkillebrew> Is it really a huge deal to just not pluralize with an apostrophe?
02:32 < coderphive> lmao
02:32 <+DrGibby|> ye's
02:32 < coderphive> damnit
02:32 < mkillebrew> It signifies ommission or possession
02:32 < czarbomba> onsip is interesting and if our current hacked-together system fails at any point it'll be in my vendors bookmarks
02:33 < coderphive> czarbomba They're good people for sure
02:33 < coderphive> Great service too
02:33 < coderphive> Plus having a phone on my desktop is way better than having a phone on desk's
02:34 < Hunterkll> whoops
02:34 < coderphive> I imagine he emptied his bladder at the sight of that
02:34 < Hunterkll> You've spent $9,967.63 out of $2,600.00 in April
02:34 < Hunterkll> i might be slighlty over budget
02:34 < czarbomba> we've got users with both and i've got both for myself but i've finally got some management backing for our growth plans/roadmap and i suspect we might quickly outpace the capabilities of what we've got now which was a quasi-emergency change made solely by the guidance of the former owner
02:34 <+DrGibby|`s> nah
02:35 <+DrGibby|`s> seem's about right
02:35 < Hunterkll> just slightly
02:35 < czarbomba> hunterkll you should be ashamed you didn't crack five digits
02:35 < czarbomba> this is a totally tenable lifestyle
02:35 < Hunterkll> czarbomba, oh the month is not over my wayward child
02:35 < Hunterkll> it is not yet over
02:35 < czarbomba> $32.37 in a day and a half?
02:35 < coderphive> Hunterkll I sense you might need a refresh of some office supply's
02:35 < czarbomba> better hit up outback steakhouse
02:36 < Hunterkll> czarbomba, nah, the transactions on my amex just gotta settlle
02:36 < Hunterkll> there's like $100+ of spend on there that hasn't cleared yet
02:36 < czarbomba> better hope they get in before teh 1st
02:36 < coderphive> I imagine at this point he has fully soiled himself and his mother is now wiping him with a cold, wet cloth
02:37 < czarbomba> you lose membership in the american ballers club if you don't crack the tens
02:37 < Hunterkll> man
02:37 < Hunterkll> i better get on that shit
02:37  * Hunterkll buys some CS:GO loot boxes
02:37 <+DrGibby|`s> you should buy some r-s loot box's
02:38 < Hunterkll> nah i don't feel like sending cryptic1 money
02:38 < Hunterkll> i just send flaming bags of dog shit
02:38 <+DrGibby|`s> it goes to me
02:38 < czarbomba> totally youd be a fool not to, youll find theyre really useful when your chatting
02:38 <+DrGibby|`s> I'm the creating them
02:38 < Hunterkll> "I'm the creating them" - indian scammer detected
02:38 < coderphive> czarbomba I'm fairly certain he is actually dead now
02:38 <+DrGibby|`s> :(
02:38 < czarbomba> s/bags/bag's
02:38 < layer-yourmom> [SED czarbomba/Hunterkll] i just send flaming bag's of dog shit
02:38 <+DrGibby|`s> it take's a while to make them
02:39 < coderphive> Yes. Hes' dead.
02:39 < czarbomba> that should finish him off
02:40 < coderphive> I've spent most of my day trying to understand concurrency in Go
02:40 < coderphive> I feel like a 5 year old
02:43 <+DrGibby|`s> well, I mean...
02:46 <@NinjaStyle> coderphive: it's super ez
02:48 <+DrGibby|`s> ur mam is super ez
02:48 <+DrGibby|`s> (sorry)
02:48 <@NinjaStyle> :(
02:48 <+DrGibby|`s> jk
02:48 <+DrGibby|`s> I didn't meen it
02:48 < coderphive> NinjaStyle kek
02:49 <@NinjaStyle> For real though go concurrency is ridiculously ez
02:49 < coderphive> I understand it's easy to do it, but the mechanics of it are pretty hard
02:49 < coderphive> It's doing concurrency in a single thread
02:49 <@NinjaStyle> ...
02:50 <+DrGibby|`s> 10 minutes until livepd!
02:50 < coderphive> kinda mind blowing how that happens
02:52 < suttin> NinjaStyle: +v pls
02:52 < suttin> <3
02:53 <+suttin> awww yiss motha fukin +v
02:54 <@NinjaStyle> I might go for a beer run
02:54 <@NinjaStyle> oo could get it on my bike :o
02:54 <+DrGibby|`s> Do it!!
02:54 <+DrGibby|`s> and join us for some livepd!
02:54 <+suttin> whats livepd?
02:54 <+DrGibby|`s> ...
02:54 <@NinjaStyle> Like cops
02:55 <+suttin> oh
02:55 <+DrGibby|`s> its cops but live
02:55 <+suttin> I'm in
02:55 <+DrGibby|`s> for 3 hours
02:55 <+suttin> I'm also already drunk
02:55 <+DrGibby|`s> its on A&E, suttin
02:55 <+suttin> I aint got cable
02:55 <+suttin> fuck that shit
02:55 <+suttin> can I stream it?
02:55 <+DrGibby|`s> I'm sure there is one out there
02:55 < coderphive> live penis disassociation
02:55 < coderphive> It's a transcendent experience
02:57  * Church- is reading through old MOC posts and chuckling.
02:57 <+suttin> whens it on?
02:58 < coderphive> I'll bite
02:58 < coderphive> what's MOC
02:59 <+DrGibby|`s> suttin: 8-11p central
03:00 <+suttin> ahhh!
03:01 <+suttin> I need a stream!
03:03 <+suttin> sling free trial it is
03:03 <+DrGibby|`s> lol
03:03 <+DrGibby|`s> nice
03:08 < precise> ayyyy
03:08 <+DrGibby|`s> ayyyyy
03:08 < precise> DrGibby|`s: I'm a traitor
03:08 <+DrGibby|`s> y tho
03:08  * precise continues watching the Hockey game
03:08 <+DrGibby|`s> :O
03:08 <+DrGibby|`s> YOU FUCKING WHORE
03:09 < precise> Don Cherry is kinda funny
03:09 <+DrGibby|`s> sharks game tonight right?
03:09 < precise> Like, the homeless guy you listen to on the street because he makes you chuckle, but you still keep your distance.
03:09 < precise> DrGibby|`s: Yeah
03:09 < precise> Go Knights Go
03:09  * DrGibby|`s chomps
03:09 < precise> I also dislike the sharks
03:09 <+DrGibby|`s> FUCK THE KNIGHTS
03:09 < precise> The Knights are better than the Sharks
03:09 < precise> Who is leading this game?
03:09 <+DrGibby|`s> that they are
03:10 < precise> Knights
03:10 < precise> Who beat Sharks 7-0
03:10 <+DrGibby|`s> I like the sharks tho
03:10 < precise> Knights
03:10 <+DrGibby|`s> I like the sharks tho
03:10 < precise> Sharks are stupid pretend fish
03:10 < coderphive> I love watching scientology documentaries
03:10 <+DrGibby|`s> they're my west coast team
03:10 < precise> coderphive: I hear Hunterkll is part of scientology
03:10 < precise> DrGibby|`s: One of the few I like
03:10 < Hunterkll> wat
03:10 < coderphive> He is a boot
03:10 < precise> DrGibby|`s: AND SO ARE THE SHARKS YA GOOF
03:10 < coderphive> makes sense
03:10 <+DrGibby|`s> heh
03:10  * DrGibby|`s chomps
03:11  * coderphive popcorns
03:11 < precise> Go do your stupid hand chomps somewhere else
03:11 < precise> commie
03:12 < czarbomba> vegas is gonna win everything
03:12  * DrGibby|`s does his hand chomps in precise's face
03:12 < czarbomba> the sharks were the strongest team in the west besides vegas
03:12 < czarbomba> and vegas just rolled 'em
03:12 < precise> Hunterkll: Bru, there's a commercial on CBC that starts with a "This is what democracy looks like" chant and I had a flashback there lol
03:12 < czarbomba> you're seeing history i think
03:12  * precise cuts off DrGibby|`s hands
03:12 < precise> s/hands/fins
03:12 <+DrGibby|`s> D:
03:12 < czarbomba> :O
03:12 < precise> chomp at me now motherfucker
03:13 < czarbomba> why did ninjastyhle take away the bot
03:13  * DrGibby|`s chomps
03:13 < precise> #fakenews
03:13 < czarbomba> uh
03:13 < czarbomba> precise
03:13 < precise> wot
03:13 < czarbomba> you are aware that chopping off hands or fins does not disable the chomping ability, right
03:13 < precise> The sharks fans
03:13 < coderphive> DrGibby|`s is the left shark
03:13 < czarbomba> yes but
03:13 < precise> They do the chomp with their arms and hands
03:13 < czarbomba> a shark without a fin
03:13 < czarbomba> can still bite the shit out of you
03:13  * precise kills czarbomba 
03:13 < czarbomba> :(
03:14 < precise> czarbomba was clearly a shark sympathiser
03:14 < coderphive> this killing is sanctioned
03:14 <+suttin> DrGibby|`s: its a doggo!
03:14 < precise> wot
03:14 < czarbomba> <czarbomba> vegas is gonna win everything
03:14 < precise> where?
03:14 <+DrGibby|`s> :D
03:14 < precise> suttin: where where?
03:14 <+suttin> live pd
03:14 < precise> :O
03:14 < coderphive> wtf is livepd
03:14 < precise> suttin: Police doggo
03:14 < czarbomba> at this point the entire hockey world that follows teams not still in the playoffs should be vegas fans
03:14 < precise> coderphive: Cops, but live
03:14 < coderphive> wut
03:14 < coderphive> cops live?
03:14 < precise> coderphive: yup
03:15 < precise> Sorta
03:15 < coderphive> how is that not boring af
03:15 < precise> They are on a bit of a delay
03:15 < precise> They follow like 7 departments
03:15 < coderphive> My friends that are cops are so bored
03:15 < coderphive> oh
03:15 < czarbomba> you'll probably never see an expansion team in any established league win a title in its first year
03:15 < coderphive> so they're bound to run into something
03:15 < precise> coderphive: Yeah
03:15 < precise> They do follow pullovers and stuff
03:15 <+DrGibby|`s> its fun to watch
03:15 < precise> They are live Friday and Saturday night
03:15 < precise> So it tends to be busy
03:15 < precise> We make drinking games to go along with it
03:15 < precise> For example
03:15 <+DrGibby|`s> what were the rules again?
03:15 < coderphive> it's on A&E?
03:15 < precise> If they don't have a license, insurance, or registration
03:16 <+DrGibby|`s> coderphive: yeah
03:16 < precise> drink
03:16 <+suttin> have they shot anyone on live tv?
03:16 < precise> If they say it is their friends pants
03:16 < precise> drink
03:16 < precise> suttin: Once or twice
03:16 < czarbomba> what do you do if someone gets tazed
03:16 < precise> But in one instance they never put it in the show
03:16 < The_Dv8or> suttin, you should watch Network
03:16 < precise> czarbomba: drink
03:16 <+suttin> do you drink when they put cuffs on?
03:16 < precise> No
03:16 < precise> thats stupid
03:16 <+DrGibby|`s> we dont want to kill ourselves
03:17 <+suttin> he doesn't have shoes
03:17 < precise> suttin: That's common
03:17 < precise> suttin: Join us in #livepd
03:17 <+suttin> aight
03:17 < precise> All are welcome!
03:17 < coderphive> L Ron Hubbard just used the term "skillion years"
03:17  * precise looks at czarbomba and coderphive 
03:22 < czarbomba> no a&e
03:23 < czarbomba> also i'm fixin' to hit up coldstone
03:24 < precise> snek
03:34 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Who would win? MacGyver vs 007?
03:37 < precise> 007
03:40 < misspwn_> you guys should be so lucky. it takes almost 3hrs to get my hair done
03:41 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> misspwn_: Cut it :)
03:41 < precise> misspwn_: I don't know what to do with my hair
03:41 < misspwn_> SysAdminGoneCraZ, that's a haircut and a color
03:42 < misspwn_> well more so a root touch up because gray hair
03:42 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> misspwn_: Jesus, what are you, Repunzel
03:42 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> ?
03:43 < misspwn_> you would think?! the guy is just slow hair isn't that long, and i've been getting greys since i was 18 so it's just a process
03:44 < misspwn_> precise, how much are you working with?:P
03:44 < precise> I'm a guy, it's long, not too long though
03:44 < precise> <vague description here>
03:46 <+suttin> misspwn_: buzz it
03:46 <+suttin> with a buzz cut I can wash it with bar soap
03:46 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> precise: Are we talkin' 80's rock band long or .. ?
03:47 < precise> Think, a little longer and more stylish than a bowl cut, thin, longer in the back but not too long, dark brown. I generally part to the right and keep it at the eyebrows
03:48 < sideup66> time to do some amazon shopping :)
03:48 < sideup66> getting golf balls
03:51 < czarbomba> anyone hanging with hattori hanzo
03:52 < czarbomba> "more stylish than a bowl cut" so, like, a mullet?
03:54 < precise> czarbomba: lol
03:54 < precise> czarbomba: No, not that long
03:54 < precise> like a median, and not uniform around
03:54 < rpifan> hi
03:56 < czarbomba> just go with the high 'n tight. it's popular everywhere these days. if the hipsters hate it, you know it's working
03:59 < rpifan> man work is exhaustig
03:59 < rpifan> i felt more satisfied as a restaruatn host
03:59 < precise> I imagine you have an rpi cluster at work rpifan
03:59 < precise> in prod
04:00 < rpifan> i wish
04:00 < rpifan> i have nothing
04:00 < rpifan> im the lowest of hte low
04:05 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> How can you be an rpifan and have no raspis?
04:06 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> misspwn_: I think you stay the 3 hours doing your hair because you have a crush. It's the only explanation.
04:08 < misspwn_> eh it's relaxing
04:11 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Must be nice. I'm bald, I wouldn't know lol.
04:11 < misspwn_> you can always get a facial, got a 10 minute one today for the first time
04:13 < Hunterkll> https://imgur.com/6qe5JI1
04:13 < layer-yourmom> * Hunterkll →  IMGUR Image → Image/png → a few seconds ago → 720x1190 → ⚘ 3
04:13 < Hunterkll> which one of you posted this
04:13 < Hunterkll> i bet it was cryptic1
04:13 <+Church-> misspwn_: Okay I'm glad I read up and gained context. >_>
04:13 < misspwn_> ha
04:18 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Goodbye windows 10, hello Gentoo!
04:19 < misspwn_> wooo , let the torture begin
04:20 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> misspwn_: I picked Gentoo because it said he could be the best gaming system ever.
04:20 < SleePy> even with context...
04:20 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> ANd I quote "Thanks to a technology called Portage, Gentoo can become an ideal secure server, development workstation, professional desktop, gaming system, embedded solution, or something else—whatever you need it to be"
04:20 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Gaming. S'all I needed to know.
04:21 < misspwn_> gaming system? hmm maybe it's come a long way
04:21 < mkillebrew> gentoo is computer AIDS
04:23 < bomb> that's rude mkillebrew
04:24 < mkillebrew> yes it is
04:28 < Hunterkll> ....
04:28 < Hunterkll> a technology called portage
04:28 < Hunterkll> i feel dirty knowing idiots like that use gentoo
04:28 < Hunterkll> because, you know, it isn't like it's a total ripoff of the bsd ports system or anything
04:28 < mkillebrew> IF they weren't an idiot, they wouldn't use gentoo
04:28 < Hunterkll> nah couldn't be
04:28 < Hunterkll> nah
04:28 < Hunterkll> i've been using gentoo for damn near 10 years now
04:29 < Hunterkll> one system practically requires I use gentoo or build it myself
04:29 < mkillebrew> I'm sorry to hear that
04:29 < Hunterkll> it's the only way to have a modern linux that's not braindead on powerpc laptops
04:29 < Hunterkll> my 2003 PowerBook G4 is my primary linux mahcine at this point, lkol
04:29 < mkillebrew> why do you still use a ppc laptop
04:29 < Hunterkll> cuz it's sexy and has like 5 hour battery life and i like it
04:30 < Hunterkll> my primary windows machine is my surface book though
04:30 < Hunterkll> lol
04:30 < mkillebrew> ooh a whole 5 hours
04:30 < Hunterkll> compared to my other *nix machine, that's a hell of a lot
04:30 < Hunterkll> i don't think, except my surface, i've ever had a device that had more than 2.5-3 hours life
04:30 < Hunterkll> even my dell llatitude 7470 for work is like that
04:30 < mkillebrew> why don't you buy a modern laptop
04:31 < Hunterkll> though i did just get a surface pro (2017) to replace it with eventually
04:31 < Hunterkll> mkillebrew, i mean, my other personal intel based system is an i7-4700HQ with 32GB ram and all that jazz, but it's only got about 2 hours battery life
04:31 < mkillebrew> a modern one that doesn't suck
04:31 < Hunterkll> it's a gaming laptop
04:31 < Hunterkll> lol
04:32 < Hunterkll> it'll run 15+ windo
04:32 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Hunterkll: Enough for a movie and an episode of New Girl.
04:32 < Hunterkll> it'll run 15+ windows server VMs no problem too
04:32 < misspwn_> i have a couple dell inspiron 1545's and would choose a powerbook g4 over them
04:32 < Hunterkll> lol
04:32 < mkillebrew> I get like 8 hours on my macbook
04:32 < Hunterkll> i mean, honestly, to get a surface book powerful/spec enough for my usage I had to spend $2699 so
04:32 < mkillebrew> and I don't have to run literally the worst linux distro
04:32 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> God damn
04:33 < Hunterkll> SysAdminGoneCraZ, 512GB NVME, i7, 16GB ram, dedicated nvidia GPU, etc
04:33 < misspwn_> you think gentoo is the worst distro? i used to think fedora was or SuSe
04:33 < Hunterkll> mkillebrew, eh, I mean, I have a home-spun distro i maintain myself for a few machines, use SuSE for when i'm lazy, etc
04:33 < Hunterkll> i've been using SuSE for almost 20 years now
04:33 < mkillebrew> suse is also bad, but gentoo is far worse
04:33 < Hunterkll> and we're all RHEL at work
04:34 < Hunterkll> getting rid of CentOS as fast as we can (support/contract requirements)
04:34 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> mkillebrew: As far as I'm reading, once you get past the install, it's all golden after that, with gentoo.
04:34 < misspwn_> it was just bloated to me same for having gnome after 3.0 so i used to just use debian, slack, or zenwalk
04:34 < Hunterkll> Yea, i've never had an issue with gentoo
04:34 < mkillebrew> no. computer AIDS.
04:34 < Hunterkll> I do have some custom overlays for source patching and such
04:35 < misspwn_> only issue i ever had with gentoo was fighting what we always fight with network cards(wireless) and video
04:35 < Hunterkll> I still have a slackware machine kicking around too, but that's because it's an IBM PS/2 and well... yea
04:35 < Hunterkll> slack 7
04:35 < mkillebrew> I have an affinity for slack, but only because it was my first dist
04:35 < mkillebrew> Slackware '96
04:35 < Hunterkll> that's probably why i'm so SuSEy myself
04:35 < misspwn_> ^ slack was my first
04:35 < Hunterkll> but honestly, SuSE in 2001 was easier to install dual boot than Ubuntu is today
04:35 < Hunterkll> that's just shameful
04:35 < Hunterkll> but then again, Ubuntu is the worst of the worst, so
04:36 < misspwn_> then i got a box of ubuntu cds in 04 because they thought i was a company
04:36 < mkillebrew> You can't have a bad package manager if you have no package manager
04:36 < Hunterkll> nah they were sending them shit out forever
04:36 < Hunterkll> lol
04:36 < Hunterkll> mkillebrew, pkgadd/pkgrm is totally a package manager.
04:36 < Hunterkll> wait. those are the solaris commands. fuck
04:36 < Hunterkll> i'm mixing up solaris and slackware now
04:36 < Hunterkll> >_<
04:37 < mkillebrew> not in '96
04:37 < Hunterkll> no no
04:37 < Hunterkll> well, at least, in '01 when i was doing a floppy install, pkgtool existed
04:37 < Hunterkll> so
04:38 < Hunterkll> so did rpm2tgz :p
04:38 < mkillebrew> I remember doing a floppy install of NetBSD on my 386 laptop... didn't have enough floppies, had to keep overwriting, and it crapped out nearly at the end on the first go around
04:38 < Hunterkll> haha
04:38 < Hunterkll> that's how i did my first slackware
04:38 < Hunterkll> 2 floppies, constant swapping
04:43 < mkillebrew> The lsat time I used gentoo was like 2004 or something
04:44 < Hunterkll> I've also had a fair share of technical issue hatred with systemd that gentoo lets me avoid on my personal stuff
04:44  * BytesAndCoffee installs gentoo on WSL
04:44 < Hunterkll> though i've got even more technical hatred for ubuntu
04:45 < mkillebrew> systemd has its positives, like it restarts failed services; but then it tries to do more and more, and breaks the guideline of simple single-purpose programs.
04:45 < Hunterkll> I have code that literally runs fine on AIX, Solaris, HP-UX, RHEL, SuSE, Gentoo, Slackware, and even Debian
04:45 < Hunterkll> but breaks because of boneheaded "let's move shit around just because we can!" decisions in ubuntu
04:45 < czarbomba> hunterkll's weekly bitchfest over his inability to adapt to different paths
04:46 < Hunterkll> not just paths, but entire ways of shit functioning
04:48 < Hunterkll> mkillebrew, well, see, they throw so much shit into PID1 ... let's just say that why the fuck are my linux servers on the same patch/reboot schedule as my windows ones now?!
04:48 < Hunterkll> mkillebrew, like, look at launchd in OS X. now that's doing it right
04:49 < Hunterkll> Systemd would evaporate 99% of my complaints if they made 1 change: make PID1/init simple and only launch/manage two sub-processes that do everything it does today. plus, that way you can make the management functions redundant
04:49 < Hunterkll> and you still can have PID1 own zombie processes and pass them down
04:49 < Hunterkll> and then i'm also back to the only required reboots being major glibc vulns or kernel vulns
04:50 < Hunterkll> it would solve about 50% of my complaints, one of which is WHY THE FUCK IS PID1 SOCKET AWARE AT ALL1?!?
04:50 < Hunterkll> for fucks sake, if PID1 tanks, kernel panic.
04:50 < Hunterkll> separate that shit out
04:50 < Hunterkll> we had redhat fix a fucking systemd bug that was causing KPs in our environment across the board
04:50 < Hunterkll> it was bad
04:51 < Hunterkll> and why the FUCK did we have to entirely re-implement DNS resolution, to the point where vulnerabilities keep cropping up in it?!
04:51 < Hunterkll> for flying fucks sake, yoiu could have just copy/pasted the shit out of glibc and done a better job
04:51 < Hunterkll> fucking NIMBYs everywhere
04:51 < sockspls> guise im updating to ubuntu 18.04
04:51 < sockspls> and so also
04:51 < sockspls> what should i name my new install
04:52 < mkillebrew> oh yeah I forgot 18.04 came out
04:52 < Hunterkll> "I am a retard who uses ubuntu, which is harder to install/manage in 2018 than SuSE linux was in 2001"
04:52 < Hunterkll> is that too long for a hostname?
04:52 < mkillebrew> we use ubuntu a lot at work
04:52 < SocksPls> Hunterkll: shut the heck up
04:52 < Hunterkll> I could understand that though, just like using RHEL
04:52 < Hunterkll> support
04:52 < Hunterkll> there's a company with a support infrastructure behind it
04:52 < Hunterkll> unlike debian, for example
04:53 < SocksPls> all the linuxes are close enough to the same and so i do not care
04:53 < SocksPls> just need name ideas
04:53 <+CheckYourSix> Hunterkll: ROFL
04:54 < SocksPls> my old install was called meme-machine
04:54 < SocksPls> ugh idk
04:55 < Hunterkll> <SocksPls> all the linuxes are close enough to the same and so i do not care
04:55 < Hunterkll> someone hasn't tried developing end-user software for linux
04:55 < SocksPls> you're right i haven't done that on my home pc
04:55 < Hunterkll> There's a reason shit like VMware workstation and Steam have specific distro requirements
04:55 < SocksPls> I BET
04:55 < SocksPls> just wanted a name ok
04:55 < Hunterkll> SocksPls, 'cumextractor' ?
04:56 < SocksPls> ugh
04:56 < Hunterkll> cuz everyoone uses linux for their porn machine
04:56 < Hunterkll> how about
04:56 < SocksPls> this is worse than my 4chan thread
04:56 < Hunterkll> "Desktop" or "laptop"
04:56 < Hunterkll> or name it after your favorite anime character
04:56 < Hunterkll> or something
04:56 < JollyRgrs> i called my first centos box Pennywise
04:56 < JollyRgrs> get it?
04:56 < SocksPls> i dont watch anime
04:56 < JollyRgrs> get it?
04:56 < Hunterkll> lol
04:56 < Hunterkll> yes
04:56 < Hunterkll> fuck off
04:56 < Hunterkll> i'm on KaibaDesk now
04:56 < JollyRgrs> lol
04:56 < Hunterkll> KaibaBook is my surface
04:56 < SocksPls> ill name it billy
04:56 < Hunterkll> my domain controllers are named shit like "KSC-HOME-DC001" though
04:56 < JollyRgrs> Billy Blanks?
04:56 < Hunterkll> lol
04:57 < JollyRgrs> Tae-Bo Master?
04:57 < Hunterkll> KSC-HOME-SP001 is the sharepoint server, etc
04:57 < coderphive> ...
04:57 < coderphive> you have a home sharepoint server?
04:57 < mkillebrew> name it null
04:57 < Hunterkll> coderphive, my home network expands over 3 continents
04:57 < Hunterkll> lol
04:57 < coderphive> =|
04:57 < Hunterkll> my SCOM install is better configured than my work one
04:57 < JollyRgrs> 001. lol. plan on hitting over 99 sharepoint servers?
04:58 < Hunterkll> I use SCCM to PXE image my workstations
04:58 < mkillebrew> If you named it null, it'd be just like you; without value
04:58 < coderphive> I guess that's not different than me having several GCP and aws accounts
04:58 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs,  i mean, i do have 8 domain controllers right now....
04:58 < SocksPls> i named it billy
04:58 < Hunterkll> coderphive, I've got leased servers in multiple datacenters and site-site VPNs
04:58 < Hunterkll> I have more BGP in my home network than work does
04:58 < JollyRgrs> but that's just b/c your diploma says "special"
04:58 < Hunterkll> then again work network team is full of retards
04:58 < Hunterkll> so
04:58 < mkillebrew> why would you BGP that
04:58 < coderphive> such a waste of fake AS's
04:59 < Hunterkll> mkillebrew, because i got bored of OSPF
04:59 < Hunterkll> coderphive, but AS-69 is the best
04:59 < Hunterkll> 6969
04:59 < Hunterkll> woo
04:59 < coderphive> lmao
04:59 < Hunterkll> i'm 12
04:59 < mkillebrew> fucking monkeys
04:59 < Hunterkll> mkillebrew, i also have publicly routable alocations and use BGP publicly too
05:00 < Hunterkll> I have a /24 of IPv4 and a /32 of v6
05:00 < Hunterkll> er, 33
05:00 < Hunterkll> whatever
05:01 < Hunterkll> which ...... just went down.
05:01 < Hunterkll> woohoo
05:01 < Hunterkll> at least the HE tunnel is still up
05:01 < Hunterkll> I fuck around too much
05:01 < Hunterkll> lol
05:01 < Hunterkll> coderphive, I also have home hybrid O365 exchange. :P
05:02 < coderphive> Actually
05:02 < coderphive> That's justified
05:02 < coderphive> if you're practicing migrations
05:02 < coderphive> shit stuff is fucked
05:02 < Hunterkll> nah
05:02 < Hunterkll> i needed on-prem exchange for sharepoint integration
05:02 < Hunterkll> but wanted to fuck around since i have 5 free E3 licenses
05:03 < coderphive> ah
05:04 < Hunterkll> You should see my Domino/Notes infrastructure
05:04 < Hunterkll> then again, i'm also using splunk enterprise to index/search my logs
05:04 < Hunterkll> so
05:04 < Hunterkll> my *IRC* logs
05:04 < misspwn_> hehhh splunk
05:04 < misspwn_> i love saying it
05:04 < Hunterkll> we kicked splunk out at work
05:04 < Hunterkll> in favor of SCOM
05:05 < Hunterkll> ... they were using it for monitoirng
05:05 < Hunterkll> lol
05:05 < Hunterkll> i think i saved us something like $50k/month in AWS costs due to how xbox huge the splunk instances were
05:05 < czarbomba> how many red bull & vodkas have you had already, hunterkll
05:05 < Hunterkll> none
05:05 < Hunterkll> just getting started
05:05 < Hunterkll> didnt wake up till 8pm
05:05 < Hunterkll> lol
05:06 < Hunterkll> coderphive, this is how you search your IRC logs: https://i.imgur.com/vREPh5p.png
05:06 < layer-yourmom> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 484,813 bytes
05:06 < Hunterkll> :D
05:07 < coderphive> kek splunk
05:07 <+CheckYourSix> I need to set up Splunk at home
05:07 < Hunterkll> coderphive, https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/15585101/Splunk_Enterprise_v6.4.2_for_Windows_x64-BEAN_[TorDigger]
05:07 < Hunterkll> er
05:07 < layer-yourmom> * Hunterkll →  Splunk Enterprise v6.4.2 for Windows x64-BEAN [TorDigger] (download torrent) - TPB
05:07 < Hunterkll> CheckYourSix, ^
05:07 <+CheckYourSix> How do you have your IRC logs going to Splunk
05:08 < Hunterkll> CheckYourSix, it is watching the log directory
05:08 < Hunterkll> as an input source
05:08 < Hunterkll> as you can see, it's running on localhost
05:08 < Hunterkll> lol
05:08 <+CheckYourSix> Is that version fairly new?
05:08 < Hunterkll> late 2016
05:08 < Hunterkll> but it's close enough
05:08 < Hunterkll> it's unlimited and cracked
05:08 < Hunterkll> has all the features, etc
05:14 <+Church-> Hunterkll: Thanks for the idea to pipe it to elk stack now.
05:14 < Hunterkll> lol
05:14 < Hunterkll> splunk is actively monitoring/reading hte log files in the directory as they're entered into
05:15 < Hunterkll> those screenshots i have were showing people the real-time nature of it
05:15 <+Church-> Aye, I'm aware.
05:15 <+suttin> click click bang bang
05:15 <+Church-> Which is why I think should work.
05:16 < Hunterkll> https://www-945.ibm.com/support/fixcentral/swg/selectFixes?product=ibm%2FOther+software%2FIBM+Security+QRadar+SIEM&fixids=7.2.0-QRADAR-wincollect-7.2.5-27.x86.exe&source=dbluesearch&function=fixId&parent=IBM%20Security
05:16 < layer-yourmom> * Hunterkll →  IBM Support: Fix Central - Please wait, Select fixes
05:16 < Hunterkll> this might help
05:16 < Hunterkll> or any other version of qradar
05:16 < Hunterkll> er, wincollect for qradar
05:16 < Hunterkll> at lleast, it sends windows event logs as syslog
05:16 < Hunterkll> so it might be able to do on-disk text files
05:20 <+Church-> Yeah I'm good, elk can read from any log files I set to be piping into logstash.
05:20 <+Church-> Just got it set up. :P
05:20 <+Church-> Nifty.
05:22 <+CheckYourSix> All of my logs are in a database
05:22 <+CheckYourSix> No files
05:25 < Hunterkll> lol
05:27 < Hunterkll> what
05:27 < Hunterkll> QRadar for free?!?!?!
05:28 < Hunterkll> WTF
05:28 < Hunterkll> Church-, https://developer.ibm.com/qradar/ce/?lnk=hm
05:28 < layer-yourmom> * Hunterkll →  QRadar Community Edition - Tour QRadar - QRadar App Development
05:28 < Hunterkll> fuck, i loved qradar when i was using it as the juniper rebranded STRM platform
05:33 < Hunterkll> IBM Watson based systems for free download from IBM???
05:33 < Hunterkll> fuck yes
05:33 < Hunterkll> what's the point of having an 18 core CPU if i'm not running watson on it?
05:33 < Hunterkll> LOL WTF it has docker as a pre-req
05:34 <+CheckYourSix> So does Splunk just run on Windows?
05:34 < Hunterkll> linux too
05:34 < Hunterkll> but the cracked copy is windows version
05:35 < Hunterkll> free splunk requires you to manually upload log files to it and only does 500MB/day or something dumb
05:35 < Hunterkll> this lets you use the agenets and everything
05:42 < Hunterkll> https://imgur.com/gzhuKpD
05:42 < layer-yourmom> * Hunterkll →  IMGUR Image → Image/png → a few seconds ago → 768x960 → ⚘ 0
05:45 < sideup66> CheckYourSix: at work we have splunk on RHEL boxes
05:46 < sideup66> has anyone seen android p's new quick center tray
05:46 < sideup66> why does it look like notification center
05:46 < sideup66> wtf google, do you WANT to give tim cook money
05:47 < sideup66> because thats how you give tim cook money
05:47 < Hunterkll> ?
05:47 < Hunterkll> Google lost my business with the discontinuation of the nexus line
05:47 < Hunterkll> they lost my mindshare with the shitshow that is android internally
05:47 < Hunterkll> there's a reason my android build server is stuck on 4.0.1 .....
05:48 < Hunterkll> Yet most android phones in the world are still running with patches i wrote. :P
05:48 < sideup66> android internally?
05:48 < Hunterkll> dive into the codebase
05:49 < Hunterkll> come back unscarred
05:49 < Hunterkll> if you manage that, then you are a stronger person than I
05:49 < Hunterkll> how the entire fucking display system alone works is mind boggling
05:49 < Hunterkll> why the fuck was the entire fucking wheel reinvented?
05:49 < Hunterkll> if we had just used standard fbdev type setups we could have standard linux phones everywhere!
05:49 < Hunterkll> but noooooooooooooo shit has to be hyper fucking customized and redone everywhere
05:50 < Hunterkll> Fuck, the scheduler rework that was done when live wallpapers hit just to prevent battery b urn was a shitshow
05:50 < Hunterkll> whereas apple just ported OS X to ARM and added a new UI on top instead
05:50 < Hunterkll> lol
05:50 < sideup66> hunterkill so you left in the android 4 days?
05:50 < sideup66> or did you live to see 6?
05:50 < Hunterkll> I still dive in from time to time
05:50 < Hunterkll> I maintain a VM to build android images now to provide security patching for my nexus 6
05:51 < Hunterkll> I really should power up my old one and get it up to par so i can do automated dailies again
05:51 < sideup66> Hunterkll: really apple is drinking the cool aid right now imho
05:51 < Hunterkll> I just bought an iPhone X in january actually
05:51 < Hunterkll> Wanted an apple watch but didn't want to pair it to my work iphone
05:51 < Hunterkll> lol
05:52 < Hunterkll> my primary phone is the Lumia 950 XL
05:52 < Hunterkll> and i have a samsung S8+ to fuck around with
05:52 < Hunterkll> was a BOGO from T-Mo and i sold the 2nd one for spare casino cash
05:52 < Hunterkll> lol
05:52 < sideup66> ip x was a colossal bomb, ios11 is a shitshow, and now their stocks are being shit on for it
05:53 < Hunterkll> eh? I love the X
05:53 < Hunterkll> more than my work 7 anyway
05:53 < sideup66> overall
05:53 < sideup66> the x was a failure
05:53 < sideup66> sure
05:53 < sideup66> it paved the way for the new design
05:53 < sideup66> but as itself? it was a corporate fail
05:53 < Hunterkll> i mean
05:53 < Hunterkll> it's profitable, and it's successful
05:54 < sideup66> how? noone bought it lmao
05:54 < Hunterkll> they /only/ are going to sell 14 million this quarter
05:54 < Hunterkll> and sold 27 million last quarter
05:54 < sideup66> thats...not alot globally
05:54 < Hunterkll> apple's average selling price for iphones was $796 last quarter
05:54 < Hunterkll> that's uh
05:54 < Hunterkll> a lotta iphone X's
05:54 < Hunterkll> out of 77 million sold
05:55 < Hunterkll> ~27 million out of 77
05:55 < Hunterkll> and that 77 includes the shitty cheap iphones too
05:55 < sideup66> i also cant be with apple for the reason of they are entirely okay completely screwing the consumer
05:55 < sideup66> and the owners defend it
05:55 < Hunterkll> the real thing to note here
05:56 < Hunterkll> is that smartphone sales are dropping globally
05:56 < Hunterkll> across the board
05:56 < sideup66> not saying google is innocent
05:56 < Hunterkll> for all manufacturers
05:56 < sideup66> they arent
05:56 < sideup66> but at least they admit it
05:56 < Hunterkll> how are they 'screwing the consumer' ?
05:56 < sideup66> maybe not say it
05:56 < sideup66> but something changes
05:56 < Hunterkll> violations of the magnuson-moss warranty act?
05:56 < sideup66> did you see linus tech tips video with his mac pro when the screen broke
05:56 < Hunterkll> that's a long standing practice industry wide
05:56 < Hunterkll> if anything, apple repair/warranty services are fucking top notch though
05:57 < Hunterkll> even 16 years ago
05:57 < Hunterkll> $300 flat rate repair got almost every component in my iBook G4 replaced
05:57 < Hunterkll> nowadays you can still get flat rate repair service even if your machine was run over by a truck
05:57 < Hunterkll> lol
05:57 < Hunterkll> and the apple laptops i use are the best windows machines i've ever had
05:57 < Hunterkll> haha
05:57 < sideup66> "top tier" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-NU7yOSElE&
05:57 < layer-yourmom> * sideup66 →  Apple REFUSED to Fix our iMac Pro - YouTube
05:57 < sideup66> he was OKAY with out of warranty work
05:57 < sideup66> wanted to pay
05:57 < sideup66> apple wouldnt fix it
05:57 < sideup66> and if they didnt have the parts
05:57 < sideup66> why the fuck would you sell it
05:58 < Hunterkll> To be honest
05:58 < Hunterkll> anything related to linus tech tips
05:58 < Hunterkll> I flat out refuse to belileve or trust
05:58 < Hunterkll> lol
05:58 < Hunterkll> he's a giant fucking tool who's a fucking idiot
05:59 < precise> s/linux tech tips/cryptic1
05:59 < Hunterkll> but yea, what he's describing in the video is a standard magnuson-moss warranty viollation
05:59 < precise> nuuuu
05:59 < Hunterkll> either way
06:00 < Hunterkll> sideup66, the big thing here is he's well known, often fucks shit up by tearing it apart, and tried to get apple to service it
06:00 < Hunterkll> then again, he also relied on raid-5 without backups
06:01 < Hunterkll> for his entire "business"
06:01 < Hunterkll> and people celebrated his successful recovery of data/array
06:01 < Hunterkll> as if he were some kind of fucking genius
06:01 < Hunterkll> instead of a total fucking moron
06:01 < TuxedoJack> Bloody cockwomble
06:02 < sideup66> Hunterkll: doesnt erase the fact of the scenario.... if this were a automobile mfg doing this....thered be lemon law lawsuits out the ass
06:03 < sideup66> and another perspective from a guy whom fixes them all day...little ranty but makes good points (you might wanna skip through his rants a little) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUaJ8pDlxi8
06:03 < layer-yourmom> * sideup66 →  The truth about Apple's engineering. - YouTube
06:03 < Hunterkll> sideup66, and quite frankly, apple's not the worst offender in the tech industry
06:03 < Hunterkll> at alll
06:03 < sideup66> im not saying google is innocent
06:04 < Hunterkll> I've had worse experiences with *delll*
06:04 < sideup66> im saying their users are total sheep
06:04 < Hunterkll> I know someone with a damn latitude that's still broken. two years later.
06:04 < Hunterkll> it had 3 years of onsite warranty
06:04 < Hunterkll> lol
06:04 < Hunterkll> they just started refusing to service it at alll
06:04 < Hunterkll> claiming that the person never sent back a .... hard drive internal sata cable thing
06:05 < Hunterkll> people rail on apple, but apple's relatively innocent in the grand scheme of things
06:05 < Hunterkll> Only microsoft is approaching the llevel of warranty service apple provides though
06:06 < Hunterkll> Apple I was in ... Irvine, i think? at some mall? and got my iphone replaced like within 10 minutes due to a failed microphone on it
06:06 < Hunterkll> MS I can go to their stores/kiosks too and i've had my surface book keyboard replaced
06:07 < Hunterkll> I also had my 950 XL replaced. Accelerometer was stuck in one direction
06:07 < Hunterkll> i just loaded up a 3rd party sensor/diag app and showed it to them and they just said "cool, let me go get you a new one"
06:07 < coderphive> Applecare on laptops rocks
06:08 < coderphive> Unfortunately they're about to ruin MBP's
06:08 < Hunterkll> i'm just talking stock warranty service
06:08 < Hunterkll> "about to" ?
06:08 < coderphive> yeap
06:08 < Hunterkll> you mean: already did
06:08 < coderphive> 2017 was a good year
06:08 < Hunterkll> no, no it wasn't
06:08 < Hunterkll> where's my MBP with ram slots, real GPUs that actually make a dent in performance, and 2.5" drive bay?
06:08 < coderphive> I have a 2017 MBP
06:08 < coderphive> get outta here man
06:09 < coderphive> If you want that go get an alienware
06:09 < Hunterkll> Or i'll just keep up using my older macbooks and macbook pros i have around
06:09 < Hunterkll> and even one powerbook g4 ;)
06:09 < Hunterkll> shit, i've got an XServe in my rack
06:09 < coderphive> Also MBP's use m.2 anyway
06:09 < Hunterkll> now that was a good line of hardware
06:09 < coderphive> Anyway
06:09 < coderphive> They're trying to switch to an all Atom based processor
06:10 < coderphive> That's the real criticism
06:10 < sideup66> why did they design the new keyboard so rediculously
06:10 < sideup66> tap screws into fucking aluminum
06:10 < coderphive> I actually dig it
06:10 < sideup66> and pull rivets
06:10 < coderphive> oh
06:10 < sideup66> until it just dies.
06:10 < coderphive> idk about all that
06:10 < sideup66> for no fucking reason
06:10  * sideup66 pats my old thinkpad lovingly <3
06:10 < coderphive> Anyway, I love my 2017 MBP
06:10 < coderphive> 2018 has had keyboard problems
06:10 < coderphive> 2019 will be Atom only
06:11 < Hunterkll> what the fuck?!
06:11 < coderphive> Basically fuck the dev community
06:11 < Hunterkll> OVH has a SOLARIS image for their dedicated servers?!?!
06:11 < coderphive> Why not?
06:11 < coderphive> Solaris is still used
06:11 < Hunterkll> they didn't have that last year
06:11 < Hunterkll> this is /new/
06:11 < coderphive> Especially military
06:11 < Hunterkll> yes, but this is ovh
06:11 < Hunterkll> lol
06:11 < Hunterkll> budget cut rate hosting
06:11 < coderphive> also
06:11 < coderphive> ZFS
06:11 < Hunterkll> i'm... well aware
06:12 < sideup66> i just cant deal with apple man, im sorry
06:12 < coderphive> idk
06:12 < Hunterkll> my primary unix workstation is a solaris install from before ZFS was bootable coderphive
06:12 < coderphive> All I use them for is the MBP
06:12 < Hunterkll> Solaris 10 11/05 install media
06:12 < Hunterkll> UFS root, with ZFS for everything else
06:12 < coderphive> I'm sorry
06:12 < coderphive> lol
06:12 < Hunterkll> Dual UltraSPARC IIi in a Sun E250 workstation with two SunPCi's for running forex trading software and some linux stuff
06:13 < coderphive> I will say, ZFS is way better than what we have for distributed block storage
06:13 < Hunterkll> I'm using a Sun IPX and an external SCSI cartridge style CDROM drive as a foot rest right now
06:13 < Hunterkll> lol
06:13 < coderphive> which is annoying
06:13 < coderphive> Gluster and Ceph are sub par :\
06:14 < Hunterkll> Trust me, I know a LOT about solaris ;)
06:14 < Hunterkll> I actually, back in ... 2013? was working for a medical MSP and built a cacti/nagios monitoring system for link status, etc, using an old dell desktop and solaris 11
06:14 < Hunterkll> didn't feel like figuring out how to set it up on linux
06:14 < coderphive> Sometimes
06:14 < coderphive> I feel like you're a masochist
06:14 < Hunterkll> ran weathermap autorefreshing every 30 seconds on a giant ass 50" + TV
06:14 < Hunterkll> nah
06:15 < coderphive> tbh, the last time I worked on bare metal systems I was in my teens
06:15 < coderphive> I've been on distributed ever since I went into systems professionally
06:16 < Hunterkll> llol
06:16 < coderphive> Haven't really touched solaris in a distributed env though
06:16 < Hunterkll> VMS is where it's at for distributed
06:16 < coderphive> I've seen a few big clusters
06:16 < Hunterkll> Windows can do HA and clustering
06:16 < coderphive> but never engineered them
06:17 < Hunterkll> Linux can too
06:17 < coderphive> that's not real clustering fam
06:17 < Hunterkll> VMS is fucking nuclear tolerant though
06:17 < Hunterkll> you could literally nuke a continent offline and not lose a file lock/handle
06:17 < coderphive> dunno about VMS
06:17 < Hunterkll> Windows & Linux are cute, but when it comes to it, VMS and NSK are what you want
06:17 < Hunterkll> DECnet > TCP/IP
06:17 < coderphive> but "Windows Clustering" is like
06:17 < coderphive> pseudo clustering
06:18 < Hunterkll> depends on what you're doing, strongly depends
06:18 < coderphive> true
06:18 < Hunterkll> and it's mostly at the app layer anyway
06:18 < coderphive> yeap
06:18 < Hunterkll> the base winodws OS clustering stuff is like a scaffold you build off of
06:18 < coderphive> that's the most useful in modern day
06:18 < coderphive> OS clustering is a slim usecase imho
06:18 < Hunterkll> Like, SQL Server AOAGs rely on it for quorum and active node intelligence, but everything else is app-layer
06:18 < coderphive> yeah, that's a smell
06:18 <+voidstar> when comparing OSs, how can one not address the obviously superior OS of TempleOS?
06:18 < Hunterkll> SQL FCI's though rely on it for shared storage management and failover
06:19 < coderphive> an application that relies on the OS for quorum is kind of bonkers
06:19 < Hunterkll> AOAGs are "new" rellatively speaking
06:19 < Hunterkll> coderphive, OS handles management of votes, up/down status, quroum disk/share management, etc
06:19 < Hunterkll> why reinvent the wheel?
06:19 < coderphive> yeah, that's bad
06:19 < Hunterkll> VMS, Sol, and most linux stuff i deal with operate the same way
06:20 < Hunterkll> offloading it to some other subsystem
06:20 < coderphive> As I said, that's a smell
06:20 < Hunterkll> what do you mean by that?
06:20 < Hunterkll> i'm not familiar with this expression, llol
06:20 < coderphive> Applications should do one thing and one thing well
06:20 < coderphive> so
06:20 < coderphive> Smell comes from "code smell"
06:20 < coderphive> as in
06:20 < coderphive> "smells like shit"
06:20 < Hunterkll> I mean, SQL does its shit amazingly
06:20 < coderphive> or smells bad
06:21 < Hunterkll> why put cluster logic into it when it's handled elsewhere?
06:21 < Hunterkll> SQL is one of MS's best products IMO
06:21 < Hunterkll> Spanks almost everything out there so hard .... except DB2 on z/OS or AIX
06:21 < Hunterkll> in which case, you're in a whole different world of pricing
06:21 < coderphive> Why is the OS interested in how the application scales?
06:21 < Hunterkll> the OS isn't.
06:21 < coderphive> Then why would the OS handle it?
06:21 < Hunterkll> The OS provides a clustering scaffold/framework to build on top of
06:22 < Hunterkll> use it or don't, it's your choice
06:22 < coderphive> Yeah, def a MS type assumption
06:22 < Hunterkll> not really
06:22 < Hunterkll> Linux is relatively new in town with its llack of such standardized facilities
06:22 < Hunterkll> which is how you get shit like ceph
06:22 < Hunterkll> lol
06:22 < coderphive> lol
06:22 < coderphive> that is not the case
06:22 < Hunterkll> whereas on VMS i'm just like
06:23 < Hunterkll> okay, 20 boxes deployed, click a few checkmarks, looks like one system filesystem wise, let's go
06:23 < Hunterkll> then drag out 30 years of manuals to remember some obscure DCL
06:23 < mkillebrew> CEPH is amazing, on paper
06:23 < Hunterkll> exactly
06:23 < Hunterkll> ;)
06:23 < Hunterkll> coderphive, but the inbuilt windows clustering stuff is used for distributed file system stuff, etc, core OS services in some types of infrastructure
06:23 < Hunterkll> so it'd be there anyway
06:23 < Hunterkll> they're really building heavily on it now with S2D and other such features
06:23 < coderphive> sigh
06:24 < Hunterkll> I am about to replace a rack of netapp hardware with a rack of dells running windows to provide storage
06:24 < Hunterkll> it's ... a weird feeling, actuallly
06:24 < mkillebrew> gross
06:24 < Hunterkll> but it was half the cost of the netapp upgrade with better performance and the encryption features required
06:24 < coderphive> yeah that's pretty nasty
06:25 < mkillebrew> I don't believe you
06:25 < Hunterkll> christ, I was looking at spending $100k on just a fucking key manager from IBM to handlel the damn disk encryption
06:25 < coderphive> idk, GlusterFS and Ceph are pretty gross sometimes, but they do well in their use case
06:25 < Hunterkll> even fucking Equallogics have better encryption support
06:25 < Hunterkll> coderphive, the best part, is the rack of windows boxes is going to be providing NFS storage for VMware hosts
06:25 < Hunterkll> :D
06:26 < coderphive> I guess if you're into using slow storage
06:26 < Hunterkll> Windows NFS support has come amazingly far starting with 2012
06:26 < mkillebrew> disgusting
06:26 < coderphive> That's not the usecase for Gluster or Ceph tho
06:26 < Hunterkll> coderphive, tiered storage, and expected to handle 1mil iops over 10gig easily for the specific use case
06:26 < mkillebrew> The only common theme I see here is windows
06:26 < Hunterkll> lightning fast
06:26 < coderphive> You're still limited by NFS 4
06:26 < Hunterkll> it's fucking vmware, lol
06:26 < coderphive> NFS is not a competitor to block storage
06:26 < Hunterkll> i'm not exactly doing fancy NFS shit
06:27 < coderphive> That's a simple fact
06:27 < Hunterkll> it works
06:27 < Hunterkll> though, there's stilll an argument in process
06:27 < coderphive> Sure, it works, doesn't mean it's right
06:27 < Hunterkll> we might go iSCSI
06:27 < Hunterkll> might
06:27 < Hunterkll> there's an additional offload hardware purchase i'd want to feel comfortable with that though
06:27 < coderphive> What you're talking about is what Gluster and Ceph are meant for
06:27 < Hunterkll> though, the windows iSCSI target stuff is pretty okay
06:27 < coderphive> They're distributed block storage
06:27 < mkillebrew> more windows shit
06:28 < Hunterkll> I used to have a 2012 server as an iscsi target for when i taught XenServer classes at hackerspaces
06:28 < Hunterkll> lol
06:28 < coderphive> mkillebrew right?
06:28 < Hunterkll> i'd have a windows server for the shared iscsi storage, and two xenserver boxes attached to it
06:28 < coderphive> This guy snorts the windows koolaid powder, kek
06:28 < coderphive> xen
06:28 < coderphive> lmao
06:28 < Hunterkll> yes i do, which is why i've been fighting to get a damn SuSE workstation for my work laptop for a year now
06:28 < coderphive> you just lost cred
06:28 < Hunterkll> coderphive, this was in 2013 dude
06:28 < Hunterkll> lol
06:28 < coderphive> and?
06:29 < coderphive> KVM was around then too
06:29 < coderphive> and still superior
06:29 < Hunterkll> honestly i'd rather hyper-v but they wanted open source shit but easy to use
06:29 < Hunterkll> KVM and I have technicall disagreements
06:29 < coderphive> probably even more superior
06:29 < mkillebrew> of course you'd rather hyper-v, more windows
06:29 < coderphive> hyper-v
06:29 < coderphive> lmao
06:29 < coderphive> dude
06:29 < Hunterkll> Aurora is pretty fuckin' legit
06:29 < coderphive> what in the world
06:29 < Hunterkll> especially compared to ESXi
06:29 < Hunterkll> Far higher vCPU density then VMware can hit
06:30 < Hunterkll> and far faster local storage performance too
06:30 < coderphive> Hunterkll do you do anything outside Windows design patterns?
06:30 < Hunterkll> I wear too many hats
06:30 < mkillebrew> do they all suck?
06:30 < Hunterkll> I'm one of 30+ Sr Sysengs's for wintel, one of 5 for li nux, and one of 2 for solaris in my work
06:30 < Hunterkll> lol
06:30 < coderphive> haha
06:30 < Hunterkll> coderphive, to be honest, most of my design stuff comes from VMS & UNIX systems
06:30 < coderphive> I mean, positions are relative
06:31 < Hunterkll> I just apply it on windows and force it to work
06:31 < coderphive> I'm an SRE but I could be a really shitty one
06:31 < Hunterkll> lol
06:31 < Hunterkll> i was also one of the only ones with solaris experience
06:31 < mkillebrew> this conversation is going to give me eyeball herpes.
06:31 < coderphive> mkillebrew going to?
06:31 < Hunterkll> Honestly I really want to go back into z/OS work
06:31 < Hunterkll> but that's getting harder to crack into these days
06:32 < TuxedoJack> Fucking yes, server restored from AppAssure
06:32 < Hunterkll> I like AppAssure
06:32 < Hunterkll> shame it doesn't have tape support
06:32 < Hunterkll> well, didn't, back in 2013 anyway
06:32 < TuxedoJack> After only three days, 2 crashes, and AppAssure being patches to fix a bug involving not being able to export 2TB VHDX files
06:33 < Hunterkll> was still dell at taht time
06:33 < TuxedoJack> Replay 4 was better than AppAssure 5 / 6
06:33 < Hunterkll> O.O
06:33 < Hunterkll> my ancient account still works
06:33 < TuxedoJack> Fuck this HTML-based bullshit
06:33 < TuxedoJack> Give me a native app any day
06:35 < coderphive> mkillebrew if it makes you feel better, I actively turn down jobs involving Windows
06:35 < coderphive> To me, Windows is an anti-pattern
06:35 < Hunterkll> eh
06:35 < Hunterkll> it's a tool
06:35 < Hunterkll> gets shit done
06:35 < Hunterkll> just like the others
06:35 < Hunterkll> i'll use whatever's most cost effective
06:36 < coderphive> Now I know you're high
06:36 < TuxedoJack> MOTHERFUCKER, I PUT THE FUCKING GATEWAY IN
06:36 < coderphive> Oh TuxedoJack I will be in town Wednesday
06:36 < TuxedoJack> Don't you fucking boot me out of the fucking VM because the cockstain restore nuked out the goddamn HyperV adapter and made a new one!
06:36 < Hunterkll> lol
06:36 < TuxedoJack> coderphive: I work until 9:30 on Wednesay, but feel up for Pour House or something?
06:36 < Hunterkll> i'll be in LA this coming weekend
06:36 < TuxedoJack> Pizza and beer, and they're fucking good
06:36 < Hunterkll> TuxedoJack, you're near houston, right?
06:36 < coderphive> TuxedoJack Thursday?
06:37 < TuxedoJack> Hunterkll: ATX
06:37 < coderphive> I'll be driving for three hours Wednesday
06:37 < TuxedoJack> coderphive: Thursday or Friday, let me know
06:37 < Hunterkll> austin eh
06:37 < coderphive> Cool cool
06:37 < TuxedoJack> Wait, Thursday
06:37 < Hunterkll> i've never been out there
06:37 < TuxedoJack> Friday's my anniversary with the better half
06:37 < Hunterkll> i'll have to come bother you sometime
06:37 < coderphive> TuxedoJack Perfect then
06:37 < TuxedoJack> Aye
06:37 < TuxedoJack> Hunterkll: was planning on being back in Houston soon as is
06:37 < coderphive> Exhaust your nerd talk Thursday
06:38 < TuxedoJack> I have family there, an inheritance to pick up, and I want some fuckin' Fuzzy's or Miyako
06:38 < coderphive> There's no Fuzzy's in Austin?
06:38 < TuxedoJack> Fuzzy's Pizza
06:38 < Hunterkll> TuxedoJack, lol man i';m on the east coast
06:38 < TuxedoJack> Not tacos
06:38 < Hunterkll> but yea
06:38 < coderphive> That's a shame
06:38 < coderphive> oh
06:38 < Hunterkll> less than $500 round trip to bother you
06:38 < Hunterkll> i'll probably do it
06:38 < TuxedoJack> Heh, less, if you fly Southwest
06:38 < Hunterkll> i'm bothering A-KO this weekend
06:39 < Hunterkll> TuxedoJack, I have platinum with AA
06:39 < Hunterkll> so free checked bags, etc
06:39 < TuxedoJack> Dude, if you're in DFW, grab drinks with me and Kumorigoe sometime
06:39 < TuxedoJack> We tend to get Sunday brunch when I'm up there
06:39 < Hunterkll> I do hit dallas a lot
06:39 < Hunterkll> lemme look at my travel schedule
06:40 < TuxedoJack> Better half and I go to the FTW zoo on a Saturday, see some friends there, then drive to Dallas the next morning and see him
06:40 < coderphive> Hit DWA
06:40 < coderphive> pretty legit place
06:40 < TuxedoJack> DWA?
06:40 < coderphive> dallas world aquarium
06:41 < TuxedoJack> Ooh, yeah, she'd love that
06:41 < coderphive> it's really neat
06:41 < coderphive> And they have beer
06:41 < TuxedoJack> Usually stay downtown in Dallas, Hotwire is really nice there
06:41 < TuxedoJack> Finds some REALLY good places
06:41 < coderphive> Dallas is cheap man
06:41 < Hunterkll> TuxedoJack, https://pastebin.ca/4019457 find good time for me to pencil you in and which city you'd like to meet up in
06:41 < layer-yourmom> * Hunterkll →  pastebin - Something - post number 4019457
06:42 < coderphive> I wish we had more conferences here
06:42 < Hunterkll> Preferrablly after ACen but i'm flexiblle
06:42 < TuxedoJack> Hunterkll: How the hell is A-Kon not on this list?
06:42 < TuxedoJack> Seriously
06:43 < TuxedoJack> Oh, it overlaps with ANext this year
06:43 < Hunterkll> TuxedoJack, because i'll be at Anime Expo in los angeles
06:43 < Hunterkll> lol
06:43 < Hunterkll> same reason i'm not going to Otakon actually
06:43 < Hunterkll> DEFCON overllaps that one
06:43 < TuxedoJack> ... I wonder if I can get them to pay for a trip to DEFCON
06:43 <@NinjaStyle> hi my dudes
06:43 <@NinjaStyle> TuxedoJack: see u there
06:43 < TuxedoJack> Since I'm now officially "Director of Information Security"
06:43 < Hunterkll> TuxedoJack, yea, I have a 1050sq ft suite to host a room party in that is a casino comp
06:43 < Hunterkll> llol
06:43 < TuxedoJack> Translation: pray shit doesn't get fucked and drink when it does
06:43 < Hunterkll> two of my trips (lake tahoe and laughlin) are casino comps as well, including flight cost
06:44 < coderphive> NinjaStyle Did you know you can run go on IOT devices and microcontrollers?
06:44 < TuxedoJack> Christ
06:44 <+Hunterkll> TuxedoJack, defcon last year was VERY nice to me ;)
06:44 < TuxedoJack> Hunterkll: How many goddamn flights do you TAKE?
06:44 <@NinjaStyle> coderphive: i havent tried, but it makes sense
06:44 < TuxedoJack> Let alone the friggin' comps
06:44 < TuxedoJack> Jesus
06:44 < coderphive> Kinda blew my mind
06:45 <+DrGibby|> penisbutt
06:45 < coderphive> This lang has racked my brain this weekend
06:45 <@NinjaStyle> go is excellent
06:45 <@NinjaStyle> i relaly like it
06:45 <@NinjaStyle> relaly*
06:45 <@NinjaStyle> really*
06:45 <@NinjaStyle> lol
06:45 <+Hunterkll> TuxedoJack, this is what my list looked like in october of last year - https://pastebin.ca/4019458
06:45 < layer-yourmom> * Hunterkll →  pastebin - Unnamed - post number 4019458
06:45 <+DrGibby|> really*
06:45 < coderphive> heh
06:45 < coderphive> It's really neat, but confusing coming from Java and Python
06:45 <+DrGibby|> really*
06:45 <@NinjaStyle> yeah its different for sure
06:45 <+Hunterkll> I missed elton john and also had to scrub a Bahamas trip (both casino comps) because i broke my leg
06:45 <+Hunterkll> :'(
06:45 <+Hunterkll> february got wiped out
06:46 <@NinjaStyle> i did mainly python before go
06:46 < TuxedoJack> Hunterkll: come to SXSW one year, you might like it
06:46 <+Hunterkll> broke my leg at ohayocon lol
06:46 < coderphive> NinjaStyle was Go one of the first languages you learned?
06:46 < coderphive> Ah
06:46 < TuxedoJack> Traffic's a motherfucker, but it ain't bad
06:46 < coderphive> That's what I was mostly coding in
06:46  * DrGibby| breaks Hunterkll's other leg
06:46 <+Hunterkll> CCP fanfest was fucking amazing
06:46 < coderphive> Definitely a huge departure
06:46 <+Hunterkll> i banged one of their employees
06:46 <+Hunterkll> ... i did that at blizzcon too for a blizzard employee
06:46 <+Hunterkll> i'm just racking up game developers now
06:46 <+Hunterkll> :/
06:46 <@NinjaStyle> Hunterkll: im super stoked for defcon
06:47 <+DrGibby|>  /r/ihavesex
06:47 <+Hunterkll> some chick dressed in captian america gear fucked me in a construction site in iceland too
06:47 <+Hunterkll> lol
06:47 <+Hunterkll> it was fucking weird
06:47 < TuxedoJack> My ex was a Blizzard employee, now she works for Bloomberg Tokyo as an SCCM admin
06:47 <+Hunterkll> she was from finland
06:47 <+Hunterkll> europe is weird man, shit's actually fun there
06:47 <+Hunterkll> TuxedoJack, but yea pick a decent weekend and i'll fly down to bother ya'll
06:48 <@NinjaStyle> TuxedoJack: did u say youre going to defcon?
06:48 <+Hunterkll> A-KO better pick up a few handles of everything for my room
06:48 < TuxedoJack> NinjaStyle: If I can get them to pay for it, yes
06:48 <+Hunterkll> lol
06:48 < TuxedoJack> FUCK'S FUCKING SAKE
06:49 < TuxedoJack> I respond to the user's ticket to close it since I restored the server
06:49 <@NinjaStyle> Hunterkll: since i quit my job i need to get a second hotel
06:49 < TuxedoJack> Stupid fucker has a fucking OOO set
06:49 < TuxedoJack> FOR FUCKING POP ON GODADDY
06:49 < TuxedoJack> IN OUTLOOK
06:49 <+Hunterkll> looool
06:49 < TuxedoJack> So it autoreplies to the fucking ticket system infinitely!
06:49 < TuxedoJack> FUCK IT
06:49 <+Hunterkll> it should only do that once
06:49 < TuxedoJack> I'm shutting off his mail until Monday
06:49 <+Hunterkll> wat
06:49 < TuxedoJack> Hunterkll: Nope
06:49 < TuxedoJack> Outlook rule
06:49 < TuxedoJack> Not OOO for Exchange
06:50 <+Hunterkll> go into the ticketing system and close it there
06:50 < TuxedoJack> You _CAN'T_
06:50 < TuxedoJack> It replies too quick
06:50 <+Hunterkll> the fuck are you using, spiceworks or some dumb shit?
06:50 < TuxedoJack> It's been 3 minutes and it's made 18 tickets
06:50 < TuxedoJack> ConnectWise
06:50 <@NinjaStyle> HUNTERKLL
06:50 <+Hunterkll> even worse
06:50 <+Hunterkll> lol
06:50 < TuxedoJack> Stupid fucker has Outlook on at his house
06:50 <+Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, what, you wanna crash on my floor?
06:50 <@NinjaStyle> did i tell u i got a new job
06:50 <+Hunterkll> lol
06:50 <+Hunterkll> yes you did
06:50 <@NinjaStyle> yas
06:50 <+Hunterkll> k
06:51 <@NinjaStyle> im jp i need it for blackhat anyways
06:51 <+Hunterkll> yer stayin in ceasars now i guess
06:51 <@NinjaStyle> i need a beginning of week hotel
06:51 <+Hunterkll> lol
06:51 <+Hunterkll> yea i'm only there weds - monday
06:51 <@NinjaStyle> yeah i have a hotel wed-sun
06:51 <@NinjaStyle> i need one fri-tue
06:51 < TuxedoJack> God dammit, it's even worse!
06:52 < TuxedoJack> The stupid fucker had it turned on at the GoDaddy level!
06:52 <+Hunterkll> you mean he did something right? ;)
06:52 < TuxedoJack> Apparently the fucking management console at GoDaddy lets you manually enable autoreply there
06:52 <+Hunterkll> because, you know, using an outlook rule
06:52 <+Hunterkll> would require outlook to be open and connected 24/7
06:52 <+Hunterkll> which is just dumb
06:53 < TuxedoJack> Doing it right would be the fucker buying goddamn Exchange / O365
06:53 < TuxedoJack> BUT FUCKING NOOOOOOOOOOOO
06:53 <+Hunterkll> why?
06:53 <+Hunterkll> too much cost for almost no benefit in most scenarios
06:53 < TuxedoJack> 21 accounts on POP on GoDaddy
06:53 <+Hunterkll> how much it cost?
06:53 <+DrGibby|> $2
06:53 < TuxedoJack> He got it for free with his fucking domains
06:54 <+Hunterkll> because email only, it'd be $84/month for that many mailboxes, and really $105/month on top with the protection stuff you actually want
06:54 < TuxedoJack> I'm REALLY tempted to edit the fucking MX records for an hour and turn it off
06:54 <+Hunterkll> for O365
06:54 < TuxedoJack> Have ConnectWise just bounce that shit
06:54 <+Hunterkll> yea, then totally not worth it to switch off if it's free
06:54 < TuxedoJack> It'd be worth it for the fucking calendar and contacts
06:54 < TuxedoJack> We've had to migrate that for that shitfuck so many times
06:55 <+Hunterkll> that's ... so easily scriptable it's embarassing to even complain about
06:56 <+DrGibby|> hey, I hope you all have a good night
06:56 <+DrGibby|> <3
06:56 < TuxedoJack> It's scriptable, yes, but he's been a dick about it to the tier 1s
06:56 < TuxedoJack> A LOT.
06:56 <+Hunterkll> not your problem
06:56 <+Hunterkll> ;)
06:56 < TuxedoJack> And he wants them synced across multiple machines
06:56 < TuxedoJack> So my solution? Buy fucking Exchange licenses
06:57 <+Hunterkll> for 21 mailboxes
06:57 <+Hunterkll> christ
06:57 < TuxedoJack> He's an accountant with at least 700 fucking clients
06:57 <+Hunterkll> i wouldn't ever propose internal exchange for less than 100 employees
06:57 < TuxedoJack> Buy Exchange Online Tier 1, then
06:57 <+Hunterkll> that's the prices i quoted above
06:57 < TuxedoJack> I know this because I had to restore the fucking clients folder manually yesterday night
06:57 <+Hunterkll> doesn't make any business sense
06:57 < TuxedoJack> He can fucking afford it
06:58 <+Hunterkll> doesn't mean it's a good idea to do so
06:58 <+Hunterkll> the only reason i'm on O365 instead of my old self-hosted sendmail/etc setup is because it's free for me
06:59 < TuxedoJack> I really need to bring my mail cluster in-house
06:59 < TuxedoJack> I still use IMAP for personal shit
06:59 < TuxedoJack> Really, REALLY old legacy stuff
07:00 <+Hunterkll> IMAP isn't bad....
07:00 <@NinjaStyle> smoke dro
07:00 < TuxedoJack> My contacts are spread across 2 GMail accounts and an old PST
07:00 < TuxedoJack> Putting it onto in-house Exchange wouldn't be a bad idea
07:00 <+Hunterkll> management overhead for that is insane
07:01 < TuxedoJack> And?
07:01 < TuxedoJack> Not like I don't have the disk and hardware lying around
07:01 <+Hunterkll> you constantly complain about how you don't have any time
07:01 <+Hunterkll> lol
07:01 < TuxedoJack> Time _at work_
07:01 < TuxedoJack> At home is different
07:01 <+Hunterkll> you also constantly compalin about how much time you spend at work
07:01 <+Hunterkll> lol
07:01 <@NinjaStyle> idgaf
07:01 <+TuxedoJack> The only thjings I have to worry about here are keeping the fiancee happy, the house clean, and then converting my PowerEdge 4210 rack into a giant fucking terrarium for the Chinese Water Dragon
07:02 <+TuxedoJack> Gonna drop about $2K on that, but damn, it'll be nice
07:03 <+TuxedoJack> People look in and expect to see servers, instead they see a misty terrarium that looks like something out of the Amazon
07:03 <+Hunterkll> lol
07:03 <+TuxedoJack> And then... SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKER, LIZARD
07:04 <@NinjaStyle> ive had 2 beers and feel buzzed, i guess not drinking for a while messed with my tolerance
07:04 <+TuxedoJack> Honestly, it was either that or turn it into a bar
07:04 <+TuxedoJack> And there's only so much you can fit in there
07:04 <+TuxedoJack> A sixth-barrel kegerator and a few 3U wine racks
07:05 <+TuxedoJack> NinjaStyle: I have a gallon blender full of ice, Kraken 94-proof, and root beer
07:05 <+TuxedoJack> That's some good shit
07:05 <@NinjaStyle> gimmie some
07:05 <+TuxedoJack> Heh
07:05 <+TuxedoJack> And now to play some League, back later
07:06 <@NinjaStyle> Hunterkll: ay
07:06 <+Hunterkll> wat
07:06 <@NinjaStyle> hi
07:07  * Hunterkll relives 2004
07:07 <@NinjaStyle> Hunterkll: mu last week is coming up
07:08 <@NinjaStyle> i feel sad about it
07:08 <+Hunterkll> jerk off into your bosses sandwich
07:08 <@NinjaStyle> :(
07:08 <+Hunterkll> friend of mine in the RMC did that
07:08 <+Hunterkll> plt sgt was like "Huh, wonder why this is so salty today" while they were eatin'
07:09 <+Hunterkll> (RMC == british royal marines)
07:10 <@NinjaStyle> thats super fucked up
07:10 <@NinjaStyle> my boss is cool
07:10 <+Hunterkll> fucked up?
07:10 <+Hunterkll> you think that's super fucked up?
07:11 <@NinjaStyle> yeas
07:11 <+Hunterkll> clearly, you need to spend some time attached to a military unit
07:11 <+Hunterkll> that's like, run of the mill shit
07:11 <@NinjaStyle> fuk that
07:11 < czarbomba> judging by our foreign policy he'll get the chance soon enough
07:11 < GrandWizardZippy> hey guys
07:11 <+czarbomba> hey you've got your hat back ninjastyle
07:12 <@NinjaStyle> czarbomba: fuck you
07:12 <+czarbomba> \o/
07:12 <@NinjaStyle> :)
07:12 <+czarbomba> <3
07:12 <@NinjaStyle> <3
07:12 <@NinjaStyle> GrandWizardZippy: hey
07:12 < GrandWizardZippy> NinjaStyle: how goes it
07:12 <+Hunterkll> christ
07:12 <+czarbomba> who was the grand wizard in the harry potter series
07:12 <+Hunterkll> it's been so long since i've had to configure a Citirx XenServer host
07:12 <@NinjaStyle> GrandWizardZippy: it goes, im drinking
07:12 <+Hunterkll> .....
07:12 <+Hunterkll> czarbomba, Albus
07:12 <+Hunterkll> albus dumbledore
07:13 <@NinjaStyle> dumblewhore
07:13 <+Hunterkll> czarbomba, sadly, i think i'm ineligible for military service now
07:13 <+Hunterkll> :'(
07:13 <+Hunterkll> pisses me the fuck off
07:13 <@NinjaStyle> i cant join the military
07:13 < GrandWizardZippy> NinjaStyle: good thing to do on a satuday
07:13 <+Hunterkll> I might actually have the metal implants on my leg removed just so taht's not the case
07:13 <+czarbomba> i'm not too old agewise but there's no way i get medically cleared
07:13 <+czarbomba> instant 4f
07:14 <@NinjaStyle> my plan after HS was to join the air force then i learned in 12th grade they wouldnt take me, so i did IT
07:14 <+czarbomba> it's good that we've got senators talking about conscription again. everyone should spend their prime adult years fighting in the desert.
07:14 < GrandWizardZippy> ive worked gov contracts before and after that fuck working for the military
07:14 <+Hunterkll> Big issue is prior-service waivers needed, psych eval needed, and the biggest issue (since i've cleared the last two before) is the metal implant on my bone in my rihgt leg
07:14 <+Hunterkll> because of drunken martial arts with another former military person
07:14 <+Hunterkll> lol
07:15 <@NinjaStyle> i have the type 1 beetus
07:15 <+Hunterkll> oh believe me
07:15 <+Hunterkll> when there's a need, a lot of shit can be overlooked
07:15 <+czarbomba> "we'll just look the other way"
07:15 <+Hunterkll> back when I first enlisted in 2007
07:15 <+Hunterkll> they were handing out waivers for everything short of violent felonies
07:15 <+Hunterkll> like it was haloween candy
07:15 <+Hunterkll> oh, you got poppped with 20 kilos of cocaine? eh, you're fine, welcome to the US miltary!
07:15 <+Hunterkll> now it's like
07:16 <+Hunterkll> "Oh, you have a high school diploma, and no recorfd, and you're 18? here, we'll put you on the waiting list"
07:16 <+czarbomba> all the staffing shortages these days are in the high-skill positions
07:16 <+Hunterkll> no no - that's for any US military position
07:16 <+Hunterkll> not just infantry
07:16 <+Hunterkll> shit, when i went in, i got a bonus for DEPing in and shipping within 30 days
07:16 <+czarbomba> well then they're shooting themselves in the foot
07:16 <+Hunterkll> an extra like $3k just for going quickly
07:16 <+Hunterkll> lol
07:17 <+Hunterkll> czarbomba, drawdowns man, drawdowns. they are trying to bleed people off
07:17 <+Hunterkll> or were, anyway
07:17 <+Hunterkll> not letting people re-up, etc
07:17 <+czarbomba> https://www.google.com/search?q=personnel+shortage+us+military&oq=personnel+shortage+us+military&aqs=chrome..69i57.2611j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
07:17 < layer-yourmom> * czarbomba →  personnel shortage us military - Google Search
07:17 <+czarbomba> crap
07:17 <+czarbomba> http://www.businessinsider.com/defense-department-and-armed-forces-lack-of-readiness-2017-6
07:17 < layer-yourmom> * czarbomba →  Defense Department and armed forces lack of readiness GAO report - Business Insider
07:17 <+Hunterkll> eh
07:18 <+Hunterkll> my info is a few years out of date from the last time i tried to re-enlist
07:18 <+Hunterkll> so it could have changed
07:18 <+czarbomba> month or two ago there was coverage of JCOS generals freaking out because apparently millennials are too fat and unhealthy to keep the military staffed
07:18 < GrandWizardZippy> i like the new bot name
07:18 < GrandWizardZippy> classy
07:18 <+Hunterkll> E-5 with a clean record and a decent medal rack
07:18 <+Hunterkll> can't go back in
07:18 <+Hunterkll> but a highschool grad could get in faster than it took me to negotiate some waivers
07:19 <+Hunterkll> of course, my waivers required CMC authorization so that took for. fucking. ever.
07:19 <+Hunterkll> then the window for what i wanted closed on it
07:19 <+Hunterkll> so i was boned
07:19 <+Hunterkll> again
07:19 <@NinjaStyle> know whats weird, in high school i thought the air force was my best path to success, but somehow i think i did better having not done the military
07:19 <+Hunterkll> Christ
07:19 <+Hunterkll> I want back in, i've wanted back in desperately since i got fucked out in '08
07:20 <+Hunterkll> i wanted to at least do my 20 if not stay in until they forced me out
07:20 <+Hunterkll> well
07:20 <+Hunterkll> guess i did the second part of that statement
07:20 <+Hunterkll> lulz
07:20 <+Hunterkll> fuckin' corpsmen
07:20 <+Hunterkll> goddamn
07:21 <+czarbomba> oh man in the wake of recent events would this photo fly today? https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/58ed190c77bb701b008b7c7a-960-720.png
07:21 < layer-yourmom> * czarbomba →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 805,841 bytes
07:22 <+czarbomba> i'm surprised #metoo for the military isn't all over this. the article's a year old.
07:22 <+czarbomba> THERE'S NO WAY SHE COULD CONSENT TO THAT WHILE SHE'S FLYING
07:23 <@NinjaStyle> hot
07:24 <@NinjaStyle> man god or war is so good
07:28 <@NinjaStyle> czarbomba: how is shit
07:30 <@NinjaStyle> czarbomba: ay
07:36 <+czarbomba> s'good. i keep zonking out on the couch though :|
07:53 <+Hunterkll> https://imgur.com/qIDFc7D
07:53 < layer-yourmom> * Hunterkll →  IMGUR Image → Image/png → a few seconds ago → 874x596 → ⚘ 2
07:53 <+Hunterkll> I was very mixed up in highschool
07:56 < JollyRgrs> glad to see skynyrd
07:57 <+Hunterkll> lol
08:49 < MillerBoss> layer-yourmom bofh
08:49 < layer-yourmom> BOFH That's easy to fix, but i can't be bothered.
09:02 < Hunterkll> mfw ibm watson's min reqs are 4gb ram and 4 cpus
09:02 < Hunterkll> and you chose 12 cpus and 64gb ram
09:03 <+voidstar> 80gb disk space 160gb recommended
09:03 < Hunterkll> i have constructed the additional pylons
09:03 < Hunterkll> once this shit's all fuckin hooked up
09:03 < Hunterkll> i'm gonna ask it "where is my porn folder"
09:03 < Hunterkll> and see what happens
09:04 <+voidstar> sounds like what people pay me to do when I do data recovery
09:04 < Hunterkll> what's the point of having
09:04 < Hunterkll> Client: HexChat 2.14.1 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Enterprise Insider Preview (x64) • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-7980XE CPU @ 2.60GHz (2.59GHz) • Memory: 31.7 GiB Total (17.8 GiB Free) • Storage: 5.8 TiB / 7.8 TiB (1.9 TiB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti • Uptime: 6m 15s
09:04 < Hunterkll> if you don't have IBM watson on it?
09:04 < Hunterkll> ram count is bugged, really need to fix that
09:05 <+voidstar> I've been looking into https://github.com/jasperproject/jasper-client
09:05 < layer-yourmom> * voidstar →  GitHub → jasperproject → jasper-client → Client code for Jasper voice computing platform → @ ~ a month ago → Python → ✡ 4,007 → Forks: 988 → ☹ 198
09:05 <+voidstar> but it's a dead project
09:05 < Hunterkll> eh
09:05 < Hunterkll> my home automation is pretty interesting
09:05 < Hunterkll> but dated
09:05 < Hunterkll> IBM viavoice for rec, CALO logic/code for AI, etc
09:05 < Hunterkll> currently takes up about 10U of rack space
09:06 <+voidstar> yeah, I'm not down for the cloud assistants though
09:06 < Hunterkll> ....
09:06 <+voidstar> nice setup
09:06 < Hunterkll> that's why it's using CALO code
09:06 < Hunterkll> it's not cloud, at all
09:06 < Hunterkll> nor is watson
09:06 <+voidstar> sure sure
09:06 < Hunterkll> actually, you've probably used CALO yourself
09:07 <+voidstar> oh, I misread your home automation statement
09:07 <+voidstar> _my_
09:08 < Hunterkll> Siri is an implementation of SRI's CALO project :)
09:08 < Hunterkll> http://www.ai.sri.com/project/CALO
09:08 < layer-yourmom> * Hunterkll →  AI Center :: Projects
09:23 < JPT> Apparently there has been a power outage at the datacenter where my vps lives. Unfortunately, level3 does not seem to provide public information about issues.
09:23 < JPT> I'm looking for more information about level3 in amsterdam
09:51 <@NinjaStyle> god
09:51 < Hunterkll> JPT: Quite honestly, you're asking for more data then is ever usually available
09:51 <@NinjaStyle> my dumbass coworker set up find my iphone on MY FUCKING IPHONE
09:52 < JPT> I guess it was worth a try. :)
09:52 <@NinjaStyle> what a dick
09:52 < Hunterkll> JPT, the datacenter has up to the minute details, etc
09:52 < JPT> At least the level3 edge routers are starting to show up in a traceroute
09:52 < Hunterkll> but tier-1 backbones don't really.... hand out info during active situations to non-customers
09:52 < Hunterkll> and quite frankly, you're a non-customer
09:53 <@NinjaStyle> doesnt everybody know that find my iphone is basically bricking the device
09:53 <@NinjaStyle> what a cunt
09:53 < Hunterkll> well, yes
09:53 < Hunterkll> unless youer org is smart enough to ennroll in DEP
09:54 < JPT> In that regard, yup. All i get is a "we're working on it" from the vps provider. At least they got me some information.
09:54 < Hunterkll> or other things
09:54 < Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, personal phone?
09:54 <@NinjaStyle> i let him borrow my iphone for a pentest and he sets up find my iphone
09:54 <@NinjaStyle> its mine, but its for pentesting
09:54 < Hunterkll> he probs just hit okay to a prompt
09:54 < Hunterkll> like an idiot
09:54 <@NinjaStyle> what a dick, he has no business doing an ios test if he doesnt know that
09:55 <@NinjaStyle> im gonna chew him out on monday
09:55 < Hunterkll> eh
09:55 < Hunterkll> you can turn it off right?
09:55 <@NinjaStyle> no
09:55 <@NinjaStyle> i need his icloud password
09:55 <@NinjaStyle> i wanted to get this done this weekend
09:55 < Hunterkll> ...........
09:55 < Hunterkll> you didn't have an icloud account signed in to the phone?
09:55 < Hunterkll> not even dumbburner@icloud.com ?
09:55 <@NinjaStyle> no, i let him borrow a clean image
09:56  * Hunterkll snarks
09:56 < Hunterkll> yer a fuckin' idiot
09:56 <@NinjaStyle> how is that my fault?
09:56 < Hunterkll> this has been a thing since ... iphone 4 ? iOS 7?
09:56 <@NinjaStyle> yeah, and he should have turned off find my iphone like a normal fucking person
09:56 < Hunterkll> provide burner devices with a burner account that only you have the recovery questions, details, etc
09:57 < Hunterkll>  also, FMI is turned on automatically during icloud login
09:57 < Hunterkll> so
09:57 < Hunterkll> you have to actively turn it off after the fact
09:57 <@NinjaStyle> yeah if he is a pentester he should know that it needs to be turned off
09:57 < Hunterkll> i mean, it's possible to get an icloud lock removed
09:57 < Hunterkll> but not cheap
09:58 < Hunterkll> I'd say the current market price for busting an icloud lock is like $200-300
09:58 <@NinjaStyle> he better remember his creds or he owes me a new iphone
09:58 < Hunterkll> tru 'nuff
09:58 <@NinjaStyle> now i cant get my shit done until monday
09:59 <@NinjaStyle> i only work at this shitshow for another 5 days at least
09:59 < Hunterkll> literally just the iphone is holding you up
09:59 < Hunterkll> wat
09:59 <@NinjaStyle> yeah
09:59 < Hunterkll> you CAN restore and nuke on disk data
09:59 <@NinjaStyle> because my dumbass company doesnt have the equipment i need to get my work done
09:59 < Hunterkll> it is encrypted and restore causes loss of keys
09:59 < Hunterkll> just DFU and flash it
10:00 <@NinjaStyle> Hunterkll: it locks the icloud account even on factory reset
10:00 < Hunterkll> oh right, forgot it was your personally owned hardware
10:01 <@NinjaStyle> i hate apple
10:01 < Hunterkll> eh
10:01 < Hunterkll> i'm okay with it
10:03 < ktechmidas> the boss resurfaced... in Amsterdam
10:03  * ktechmidas facepalms
10:03 <@NinjaStyle> whos the boss
10:03 < ktechmidas> my boss... he tends to vanish for a few weeks
10:03 < ktechmidas> ... every few weeks
10:03 <@NinjaStyle> i want his job
10:04 < ktechmidas> so do I... but now he's like "I got some good new ideas, you're coming to AMS tomorrow"
10:04 < ktechmidas> "well fuck"
10:04 <@NinjaStyle> oh nice
10:04 < ktechmidas> the girlfriend's not too happy... :P
10:04 < ktechmidas> and it's a real long flight... but I paid for business class
10:05 < ktechmidas> so we'll see
10:05 < ktechmidas> gonna try and hop home to the UK while I'm there... for the weekend
10:05 < ktechmidas> haven't been for 2 years
10:06 <@NinjaStyle> nice dude, sounds like a an interesting week you got coming up
10:08 < ktechmidas> not entirely sure how I landed myself this job... I set up systems, no-one uses them, it's a disorganized mess where the boss occasionally reappears at least 7 timezones in some direction, and I'm randomly handed Python projects by the local boss (not the boss who jets around)
10:08 < ktechmidas> despite repeatedly telling the guy "Well, I will try to handle that, but I am a system admin, not a developer"
10:08 <@NinjaStyle> you in HK still?
10:09 < ktechmidas> Until tomorrow, yeah
10:09 < Hunterkll> lol
10:10 < ktechmidas> I do kind of miss walking into an office and having a nice normal day where someone doesn't summon me to the other side of the planet
10:10 < Hunterkll> I actually went into the office on thursday
10:10 < Hunterkll> was nice
10:10 <@NinjaStyle> Hunterkll is hiring
10:10 < Hunterkll> had to get my work badge replaced
10:10 < Hunterkll> lost it like 8 months ago
10:10 < ktechmidas> oh rly?
10:10 < Hunterkll> snuck up behind my boss and poked him
10:11 < Hunterkll> "I'm here for my annual check up!"
10:11 < ktechmidas> hah
10:11 < Hunterkll> hey
10:11 < Hunterkll> i got the positive annual review
10:11 < Hunterkll> so
10:11 < Hunterkll> i'm golden for at least a year!
10:11 < Hunterkll> didn't get the top tier rating, but didn't rate myself that either
10:12 < Hunterkll> so whatevs
10:12 < ktechmidas> my plan is to wait until the next crypto boom
10:12 < ktechmidas> sell it all
10:12 < Hunterkll> still gettin my raise
10:12 < Hunterkll> eh
10:12 < ktechmidas> and retire somewhere nice
10:12 < Hunterkll> i mine like $6 a day
10:12 < Hunterkll> payin off CCs
10:12 < Hunterkll> like a BAWS
10:12 < ktechmidas> I get *paid* in it
10:12 < ktechmidas> it's a pain
10:12 < Hunterkll> that's not quite legal in china
10:12 < Hunterkll> but okay
10:12 < ktechmidas> nothing is quite legal about any of this
10:13 < ktechmidas> which is why I'm getting out after the next boom
10:13 < ktechmidas> :P
10:13 < Hunterkll> lol
10:13 < Hunterkll> i'd just be selling every payout
10:13 < Hunterkll> which is what i'm doing
10:13 < Hunterkll> i had to double in for a few thousand to break even when the crash happened
10:13 < ktechmidas> I can't have too much cash on hand
10:13 < ktechmidas> sadly
10:13 < Hunterkll> now i just exit every payout
10:13 < Hunterkll> get a foreign bank account
10:13 < Hunterkll> lol
10:13 < ktechmidas> I have one in the UK and one in China
10:14 < ktechmidas> don't really want to use either
10:14 < Hunterkll> meh
10:15 < ktechmidas> I'm either gonna be rich or in jail
10:15 < ktechmidas> right now it's 50/50
10:15 <@NinjaStyle> boooop
10:16 < ktechmidas> on the good side, I managed to pay for flights with crypto
10:18 <@NinjaStyle> weird
10:18 <@NinjaStyle> youre probably on a new list now
10:18 < ktechmidas> I'm probably on *many* lists by now
10:18 <@NinjaStyle> youre on my list
10:19 < ktechmidas> as a potential candidate when you next have job openings?
10:19 < ktechmidas> :D
10:19 <@NinjaStyle> ye
10:19 <@NinjaStyle> my company has like 6500 employees
10:19 < ktechmidas> I can feel myself getting rusty
10:19 <@NinjaStyle> so you can be one of them
10:19 < ktechmidas> it sucks
10:19 < ktechmidas> trying to keep productive
10:22 <@NinjaStyle> dont get stagnant
10:23 < ktechmidas> yeah I'm diving into all sorts... currently helping a OSS few projects along
10:23 < ktechmidas> and have my testlab to play around with
10:23 < ktechmidas> but again... more dev than ops :P
10:23 <@NinjaStyle> its all good
10:24 <@NinjaStyle> as long as your learning
10:24 <@NinjaStyle> you're*
10:30 < Hunterkll> okay
10:30 < Hunterkll> just signed into tinder
10:31 < Hunterkll> anything less than 30 and a singler parent is straight nope
11:02 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, weren't you referring a guy who wokred over resumes before?
11:17 < MillerBoss> When is the next trip Hunterkll and where?
11:17 < Hunterkll> MillerBoss, i'll be in LA this coming weekend
11:18 < MillerBoss> For what?
11:18 < Hunterkll> eh
11:18 < Hunterkll> boredom? to hassle A-KO?
11:18 < MillerBoss> Oh
11:18 < Hunterkll> 6+ hr flight just to bother a-ko really
11:19 < MillerBoss> Must be nice to have a remote job.
11:19 < Hunterkll> off work for the entire time
11:19 < Hunterkll> leaving friday night, returning monday
11:40 < MillerBoss> Hey Siri define mother
11:40 < MillerBoss> She will ask if you want to hear the next one, say yes
13:37 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Good Morning Neverland!!!!!
15:06 < Sousapro> Good morning lol
15:07 < Sousapro> I woke up to 50 percent off of a physical book from Manning publications. Think it's time to buy learn powershell scripting in a month of lunches
15:08 < Sousapro> They give you the PDF to the older powershell toolmaking with it as well
15:08 < Sousapro> Hard to say no to that for $22
15:09 < Sousapro> Was gonna buy the new Battletech game but I get this is a better decision lol
15:09 < Sousapro> s/get/bet
15:09 < layer-yourmom> [SED Sousapro] Was gonna buy the new Battletech game but I bet this is a better decision lol
15:26 < Sousapro> Holy crap, MechWarrior living legends got picked up by the community
15:26 < misspwn_> morning nerds
15:26 < Sousapro> I stopped playing MechWarrior entirely because of how terrible mwo was
15:26 < Sousapro> misspwn_: morning
15:27 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Gentoo was too hard. Im going with CentOS
15:28 < misspwn_> dang that didn't take long SysAdminGoneCraZ
15:29 <+CheckYourSix> Morning
15:29 < misspwn_> morning CheckYourSix
15:29 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> misspwn_: Gentoo apparently is not for new people lol
15:30 < Sousapro> CentOS or RHEL is almost always the right answer
15:30 < Sousapro> Fite me
15:30 < misspwn_> nah not at all, i would never recommend gentoo for the first distro hah
15:31 <+CheckYourSix> Sousapro: Check your PM
15:31 < misspwn_> CentOS would be fine for you
15:38 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> What sucks is, if someone randomly found a linux installer, it's almost always a core version and without another computer on hand, they wouldn't know what to do out of the box.
15:38 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Here I am googling a whole bunch of shit lol Like installing the GUI, etc etc lol
15:40 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> By someone, I meant one who knows nothing of linux. Just to be clear.
15:40 < misspwn_> well most people wouldn't wake up and install linux
15:40 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> True.
15:40 < misspwn_> and if they were, they wouldn't install gentoo lol
15:41 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> lol
15:41 < misspwn_> i used to install it once a year just to try to keep my skills sharp and almost always ended up pissed off
15:41 < misspwn_> and the documentation for it assumes you already know how to do things
15:49 < Sousapro> Step one, uninstall malware
15:50 < Sousapro> Err systemD
15:58 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Next step. Understanding how to install software in linux. lol
15:58 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Aight, Im outta here. I had enough linux for today
16:04 < Sousapro> SysAdminGoneCraZ: yum or apt
16:04 < Sousapro> Probably Yum since CentOS
16:05 <+CheckYourSix> Yum
17:09 < sideup66> Hello room
17:21 <+CheckYourSix> I can't figure out how to get the Yeti microphone to stop picking up everything. Even in cardioid mode. It's too sensitive
17:36 < sideup66> Hiya room
17:37 < ktechmidas> shhhh, the room is sleeping
17:39 < bomb> heh
17:43 <+CheckYourSix> What's a really nice mechanical keyboard that isn't very loud? My current one is ridiculous
17:44 < sideup66> I'm model m
17:44 < sideup66> :)
17:45 < sideup66> I've never held a position before where I can kindly tell a lower ranking person to stfu
17:45 < sideup66> Professionally
17:45 < sideup66> But yes
17:51 < Nightcinder> CheckYourSix: it's the mic
17:51 < Nightcinder> it's just what they do
17:51 < Nightcinder> condenser mics pick up everything
17:51 <+CheckYourSix> Yeah I know.
17:51 < Nightcinder> dynamic ftw
17:52 <+CheckYourSix> I noticed. Might have to consider a nice dynamic one
17:52 < mkillebrew> what kind of switches do you have in your keyboard
17:53 <+CheckYourSix> I think reds. Not positive
17:54 <+CheckYourSix> I think dynamic mics would be best since most of what I'm doing is voice only
17:54 < mkillebrew> You should find out, those are already on the quieter side
17:55 <+CheckYourSix> Any way to find out? Seems like the Corsair K70 now comes with every option
17:56 <+CheckYourSix> Hmm. According to the model number, Reds
17:58 < mkillebrew> aren't those already on the quieter side?
17:58 < sideup66> What are you using the mic for? Podcast?
17:59 <+CheckYourSix> Well I'd rather use it than a headset mic. Everything from video tutorials to gaming to conference calls.
17:59 <+CheckYourSix> It picks up the keyboard really bad though. Server fans too, even though they're behind it
17:59 < mkillebrew> you can get a silent red, but it's not silent, just maybe quieter
18:00 <+CheckYourSix> I also tend to hit keys kinda hard
18:00 < mkillebrew> I've always wanted a nice mechanical keyboard, but I'm always on a laptop and like to stay mobile.
18:00 <+CheckYourSix> I use a desktop at home.
18:01 < mkillebrew> bleh
18:01 <+CheckYourSix> Laptops annoy the fuck out of me
18:01 <+CheckYourSix> Useful for when I'm traveling, but otherwise no thanks
18:02 < mkillebrew> I like being able to move from my bedroom to the living room or breakfast room or something, depending where the light is, or where it's warmest
18:03 <+CheckYourSix> Shitty screen resolutions, the keys are different than my normal keyboard so my typing gets sloppy, and I hate touchpads so I have to use an external mouse.
18:03 < mkillebrew> go make some hard boiled eggs in the kitchen and keep an eye on some salt states running
18:03 <+CheckYourSix> I like my 3 big monitors
18:05 < mkillebrew> I've always used multiple virtual desktops instead
18:06 < mkillebrew> when I did have a desktop setup with two monitors, one was either just a static browser set to watching graphs, or Scooby-Doo
18:09 < mkillebrew> https://i.redd.it/dxgtovetlfrz.jpg   there, this guy has the right idea.
18:09 < layer-yourmom> * mkillebrew →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 477,965 bytes
18:10 < mkillebrew> I actually really like the clickyness and short travel distance on my MBP keyboard, but a tiny spec of dust is enough to make a key jam
18:10 < mkillebrew> I literally had pollen dick up several keys last week when working outside
18:13 <+CheckYourSix> Really? That sensitive?
18:14 < mkillebrew> travel distance is tiny
18:19 < mkillebrew> also, Oak has been a real bastard, but has finally abated.
18:30 < sideup66> CheckYourSix: how I feel, soonish I'm hoping to build a proper desktop system, been running on laptop's for a bit now, but a mothership would be nice
18:31 <+CheckYourSix> Yeah
18:31 <+CheckYourSix> My desktop is almost 6 years old. I plan to drag it out for another 4-6 years if I can
18:43 < Nightcinder> i think my ryzen 7 1700 will hold out for a while
18:43 < Nightcinder> gpu will need an upgrade from my 1080ti but the rest should be good for another 5-6 years
18:44 <+suttin> CheckYourSix: my processor is already 5 years old and I can't tell
18:44 <+suttin> and the 980 is holding its weight
18:44 <+suttin> I've also stopped playing tripple a games
18:44 <+CheckYourSix> I have an i7-3770K with 32 GB RAM, Samsung 850 EVO, and a 1070. SSD/Video card were the only upgrades. I can't tell this thing is almost 6 years old. I don't think it'll be much of a problem either
18:45 <+CheckYourSix> I had onboard graphics before the 1070
18:45 <+CheckYourSix> I play CSGO and Rocket League mostly lol
18:45 <+suttin> yeah, my laptop is a 3rd gen i7
18:45 <+suttin> the beast can even run factorio
18:46 <+CheckYourSix> I'm sure the 1070 will be plenty for me until this machine quits. I honestly hope for 10-12 years out of this unless some hardware component shits
18:46 <+suttin> i think my next upgrade on this box will be more ram, and I'll retire it to a hypervisor
18:46 <+suttin> and just use my laptop
18:46 <+suttin> I'm playing less and less games
18:47 <+CheckYourSix> Same
18:47 <+suttin> do any of the dell laptops have the docking port and a descrete gpu?
18:47 <+CheckYourSix> My next machine... who knows what'll be out
18:47 <+CheckYourSix> Not sure off hand
18:48 <+suttin> or even better, support external gpus
18:48 <+suttin> that might be my next move
18:50 < catbeard> Gtx 1050 is pretty decent
18:50 < catbeard> On laptop anyway
18:50 < catbeard> Hp tho
18:51 <+suttin> i really like that my work and personal laptop can use the same dock at home
18:58 <+suttin> nice Ubuntu Linux 16.04,FI,WW
18:58 <+suttin> - $100.35
18:59 <+suttin> oh the precisions have quadros :(
19:03 <+A-KO> brb
20:32 <+suttin> precise: stop nick spamming butthead
20:38 <@NinjaStyle> Boop
20:38 < czarbomba> someone's stuck in scrollback
20:39 <+suttin> felda: pfsense
20:39 <@NinjaStyle> felda: felda
20:39 < felda> speaking of
20:39 <+suttin> czarbomba: nah I'm making fun of precise becuase fishar nick changed a few times
20:39 < felda> I came in today to update my pfsense to the latest version
20:40 < felda> freaking users saying something about their phones run off the internet and can't get emails so I can't do the update during the weekdays -_-
20:43 <+suttin> next time cause an outage and sneak in an upgrade while you "fix" the outage
20:43 <+suttin> also can you blue green pfsense?
20:43 < felda> suttin I have done that before lol
20:43 < felda> you mean blue screen?
20:43 <+suttin> no
20:43 <+suttin> load balance or HA
20:44 < felda> ahhh
20:44 < felda> no
20:44 < felda> 1 server
20:44 < felda> 1 firewall/router
20:44 <+suttin> get more machines
20:44 < felda> no backups except old PCs I can spin up ESXi on
20:44 < felda> suttin we are a small business with less than 20 users
20:45 < felda> brb executing update and reboot now
20:45 <+suttin> use at commands breh
20:51 <@NinjaStyle> Broseph
20:51 <@NinjaStyle> Bro dozer
20:52 <+voidstar> Broseidon?
20:52 <@NinjaStyle> Nice
20:52 <+voidstar> king of the brocean
20:56 < czarbomba> anyone here t-pain?
21:06 <+DrGibby|> yes
21:06 <+DrGibby|> I am t-pain
21:06  * DrGibby| autotunes
21:06 <+voidstar> my ears demand reparations
21:26 <@NinjaStyle> I'm t-pain too
21:47 <@NinjaStyle> DrGibby|: hi
21:47 <@NinjaStyle> How'd your twlk with recruiter go last week?
21:48 <@NinjaStyle> Talk*
21:54 <+suttin> brb, loading gimp. See you all in 3 days
21:55 < mkillebrew> gimp is for jerks
21:58 <+voidstar> mkillebrew, alternative?
21:58 < mkillebrew> oh, I don't know
21:59 < mkillebrew> I use Capture One, but it's paid
21:59 < misspwn_> lel, what do you even like mkillebrew?
21:59 < mkillebrew> I like bacon
22:02 < mkillebrew> Darktable might be a good raw processing alternative that's cross-platform
22:02 < mkillebrew> gim's UI has always just sucked
22:02 < mkillebrew> *gimp's
22:06 <+voidstar> single window mode is fine for me
22:07 < rpifan> hi
22:08 < rpifan> anyone do kubernetes
22:08 < rpifan> apparently they got certs for it
22:14 < mkillebrew> Nevermind, darktable is trash.
22:16 < rpifan> whats a dark table
22:16 < mkillebrew> image processing for raw
22:19 <+DrGibby|> got the interview this tuesday
22:19 < rpifan> why
22:19 <@NinjaStyle> Gimp is great imo
22:19 <+DrGibby|> NinjaStyle^^
22:19 <@NinjaStyle> DrGibby|: I will try to attend
22:20 <+DrGibby|> lol alright
22:20 <@NinjaStyle> This is my last week though
22:20 < mkillebrew> Gimp freaking sucks to use.
22:20 < mkillebrew> Maybe I'm just terrible at it
22:20 <@NinjaStyle> But the team is great, super awesome group of people
22:20 < rpifan> whats the use of raw
22:20 < rpifan> teams are overrated
22:20 <@NinjaStyle> mkillebrew: probably
22:20 < mkillebrew> raw retains the most imformation from the sensor possible
22:20 < mkillebrew> you can go 2 stops either way without loss of detail with raw, generally
22:21 < rpifan> i see
22:21 < mkillebrew> it's like having the film negative instead of the print; jpeg would be like the print.
22:21 < rpifan> i sometimes wonder if we'd just be better off with film
22:21 < rpifan> at least film is less processed
22:21 < mkillebrew> I do film for medium format, because to hell with the cost of digital there
22:21 < rpifan> medium format?
22:22 < mkillebrew> 6x6cm negatives
22:22 < Anaphylaxis> I can't find it anywhere so maybe someone here knows, Netgear Nighthawk R6700 router, how can I just use the device name instead of the IP? like there's no local domain?
22:22 < rpifan> i see
22:22 < rpifan> i was doing super 8
22:22 < rpifan> i loved it
22:22 < rpifan> but then they stopped making color reversal
22:22 < mkillebrew> I stick to black and white, I don't want to develop color film, or do color prints in complete fucking darkness
22:23 <@NinjaStyle> DrGibby|: I told you the recruiter makes it feel awkward
22:23 <@NinjaStyle> But it actually worked out
22:23 <@NinjaStyle> Lol
22:23 < rpifan> well i had to send my stuff to ny or california
22:23 < rpifan> only two palces process super 8
22:23 <+suttin> wow windows isntall sure is smart, lets try upgrading the OS even though there isn't an OS installed
22:23 < mkillebrew> yeah, if I had to send my film off, I'd just stick to digital
22:24 < rpifan> well its worth it
22:24 < mkillebrew> I like being able to go from camera to print in my bathroom
22:25 <+DrGibby|> yeah, I was actually surprised to see a follow up e-mail
22:25 <+DrGibby|> but thats good
22:25 <+DrGibby|> also, gtg, making pulled pork
22:25 <+DrGibby|> <3
22:25 < rpifan> well where do u put ur pictures
22:25 <+DrGibby|> in a photoalbum
22:25 <+DrGibby|> or hang them on a wall
22:25 <@NinjaStyle> Cool
22:25 < mkillebrew> I have an album of negatives, one of prints, and some hanging
22:26 < rpifan> but what is the purpose
22:26 < rpifan> do u have masses of ppl coming to ur home to see them
22:26 < mkillebrew> to have pictures
22:26 < mkillebrew> they're for me
22:26 < rpifan> but do u like look at them all the time
22:26 < rpifan> my phone is full of them
22:26 < rpifan> and id kwhat to do with them
22:26 < mkillebrew> the ones hanging, yes
22:26 < rpifan> i was just deleting some
22:27 < mkillebrew> I just sent off for another film back for the medium format as I can't locate the fucking light leak, and I'm tired of having to tape it up. Bought a polaroid back and some film for it, too, for when I'm not quite sure of my exposure
22:28 < felda> DrGibby| voted for Obamacare death panels
22:28 <@NinjaStyle> Probably
22:28 <+DrGibby|> ofc I did
22:28 <+DrGibby|> too many people on this earth
22:28 < mkillebrew> NinjaStyle is a pinko.
22:28 < felda> lmao
22:28 < felda> you sound like Thanos
22:29 < rpifan> im a socialist
22:29 < mkillebrew> I'm going to download Gimp again, actually learn to use it properly, since I stopped giving Adobe money for their crap
22:29 < mkillebrew> Capture One is great for raw and some spot treatments, but doesn't extend to photoshop functionality
22:30 < rpifan> i wish my action camera shot in raw mode
22:30 <+voidstar> gimp is pretty damn good for a free piece of software
22:30 < rpifan> im sure there is some firwae u could come up with
22:30 < mkillebrew> or is it in homebrew
22:32 < felda> wew politics with my dad
22:32 < rpifan> polictics are bad
22:32 < felda> "70% of all taxes go to Chicago it's ridiculous"
22:32 < felda> well 70% of all income and population live in Chicago soooo.....
22:32 <+voidstar> I hear the airborne lead poisoning in Chicago can get quite bad
22:33 < felda> Chicago isn't even that bad lol
22:33 < felda> people just blow it out of proportion
22:34 < MillerBoss> s/proportion/their ass!
22:34 < layer-yourmom> [SED MillerBoss/felda] people just blow it out of their ass!
22:34 < felda> pretty much
22:34 < mkillebrew> s/[\w]/{$1}
22:35 < rpifan> felda.io
22:35 < rpifan> chicago is nasty
22:35 < rpifan> been several time
22:35 < felda> the only reason people talk about chicago is because it is run in a democrat state and tried to have strict gun control even though it is surrounded by some of the most relaxed gun law areas in the US
22:37 < mkillebrew> It's a garbage city for garbage people
22:38 < felda> I enjoy it over my small podunk farming town
22:42 < rpifan> nah its nasty
22:42 < rpifan> a really shitty copy of nyc
22:43 < mkillebrew> I'm sure Chicago is gerat if you like socialism and heroin.
22:43 < mkillebrew> and not having nice things, and maybe being murdered
22:44 < rpifan> i disagree
22:44 < rpifan> there is nothing socailist about chicago
22:44 < rpifan> no where in hte us is socialist
22:44 < rpifan> or even close ot it
22:44 < misspwn_> chicago having relaxed gun laws? actually illinois has pretty strict gun laws
22:44 < rpifan> oh hello misspwn_
22:44 < misspwn_> hi
22:45 < rpifan> sup
22:46 < misspwn_> eh watching the cats because one of them is puking up blood but i won't be able to get him to the vet until tomorr
22:46 <+suttin> yay, lab AD is setup
22:46 <+suttin> also noooo :(
22:47 < misspwn_> he has kidney failer or early stages of it and there isn't a whole lot i can do. i don't know at what point i have to put him down because he acts fine. animals are good at hiding pain
22:47 < rpifan> oh
22:47 < rpifan> i dont want to break our new found fienship but i hate cats
22:47 < misspwn_> it's hard to hate cats. i understand if you're not a cat person. i am not a dog person but i don't hate them:P
22:48 < rpifan> sadly i actually do hate them
22:49 < mkillebrew> they vomit, pee on things, shed, have awful bacteria under their claws and in their mouth that leads to sepsis, and knock things off shelves
22:49 < misspwn_> how come? i actually am waiting for the day that i can get rid of them
22:49 < misspwn_> just cause i'm tired of having cat floof around and having to keep doors closed
22:49 <+suttin> i like to visit cats. owning is a pain in the butt
22:49 < misspwn_> both of these fucking cats are on separate prescription cat foods because they are the worst
22:51 < mkillebrew> I used to have cats, and both miss them and glad I don't have cats anymore.
22:51 < DLSteve> I miss my cats, puke and all :(
22:51 < mkillebrew> Wouldn't get another cat.
22:52 <@NinjaStyle> Animals are hard
22:52 < mkillebrew> Dogs seem alright, might get one of those.
22:52 < rpifan> cats are purposefully evil
22:52 < rpifan> its not charming
22:52 < misspwn_> hah
22:52 < rpifan> when they know they are better then you
22:52 < mkillebrew> unless they're too small and yappy, or too large and drool
22:52 < misspwn_> yeah i want to be a dog person but it's just so much more work
22:52 < rpifan> sadly humans need cats more then they need us
22:53 < misspwn_> looking forward to the day i am pet free
22:53 < misspwn_> maybe later on in life i will get another cat when these kick the bucket.
22:53 < mkillebrew> How about a bird, then you can just open a window if it annoys you
22:53 < misspwn_> haha
22:54 < misspwn_> i could just get a furby
22:54 <@NinjaStyle> Might as well kill it yourself
22:54 < misspwn_> hah oh the days of the furby waking me up at 2am as a kid
22:54 <@NinjaStyle> If you're letting animals go outside to get rid of them you are a coward
22:54 < mkillebrew> birds and rabbits are pets that immediately return to the state of nature if released
22:54 <@NinjaStyle> That's a huge piece of shit thing to do
22:55 <@NinjaStyle> Super cruel
22:55 < misspwn_> i'd be a little more ok with doing that to a bird than a cat
22:55 < mkillebrew> Letting a bird fly isn't cruel, it was meant to fly
22:55 < misspwn_> friends of mine keep their dogs caged during the day and it makes me mad
22:55 < mkillebrew> we have a breeding population of parrots here from some that got loose
22:55 < misspwn_> i mean you do what you have to do, but it still makes me mad
22:57 < mkillebrew> probably because the cunt will shit all over what he doesn't chew up if left alone
22:57 <+suttin> suttin@suttindesktop ~]$ curl http://controller:3000/group/Administrators
22:57 <+suttin> {"dn":"Administrators=Builtin,DC=suttin,DC=xyz","cn":"Administrators","description":"Administrators have complete and unrestricted access to the computer/"}
22:57 <+suttin> awww yiss
23:11 < Jekotia> Looking to move my domain registration to a DNS provider with an API, so that I can fully automate my LetsEncrypt renewals using DNS challenges. Any recommendations? If you have no idea what I'm talking about but are curious, check out https://github.com/lukas2511/dehydrated/wiki/Examples-for-DNS-01-hooks
23:11 < layer-yourmom> * Jekotia →  GitHub → lukas2511 → dehydrated → letsencrypt/acme client implemented as a shell-script – just add water → @ ~ 2 days ago → Shell → ✡ 3,801 → Forks: 495 → ☹ 11
23:14 <@NinjaStyle> Most have an api
23:14 <@NinjaStyle> GoDaddy and Google do I'm pretty sure
23:15 < Jekotia> I've never heard anything good about GoDaddy...
23:15 <+voidstar> hurricane electric?
23:15 <@NinjaStyle> It's not good
23:16 <@NinjaStyle> I just said it has an api
23:16 < Jekotia> Suggesting something that's not good... You sneaky bastard you ;)
23:16 <@NinjaStyle> You asked for an api not something good
23:17 <@NinjaStyle> Nwmecheap has an api as well
23:17 < Jekotia> I asked for recommendations. That implies good, does it not?
23:17 <@NinjaStyle> Pretty much any major dns registrar has an api
23:18 <@NinjaStyle> Also certbot doesn't even require dns challenge, it easier to use cerbot with the automatic web challenge
23:20 < Jekotia> NinjaStyle: Can't wildcard cert without DNS01
23:25 <+DrGibby|> alright pulled pork in the instantpot
23:25 <+DrGibby|> I can chill for about an hour
23:32 < xe0n> morning
23:34 < gavit> would a self build microserver be cheaper than something like a rack mounted dell/hp?
23:34 <+voidstar> probably not
23:39 <+CheckYourSix> No
23:40 < The_Dv8or> sup
23:40 <+voidstar> suh
23:41 < benjgvps> gavit: Cheaper, no. Quieter with lower power consumption, yes
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