--- Log opened Mon May 14 00:00:19 2018
00:04 < rpifan> hello
00:04 < rpifan> ihope i dont drown with this miami ruain
00:09 < czarbomba> it hasn't stopped here today
00:09 < rpifan> where u is
00:09 < czarbomba> lauderdale
00:09 < rpifan> oh yea
00:09 < rpifan> well its not been bad today
00:09 < rpifan> but if it is this way tomomrow ill have to WFM
00:09 < rpifan> i bike to work
00:10 < CheckYourSix> Microsoft, why the FUCK is it so hard to sign up for 0365? I filled out all the info, verified phone, domain, etc. then it says it had an issue, try again later. Tried again, same thing. Tried later, now it wants me to contact support at the point where I put my phone number in to verify it with a text...
00:10 < czarbomba> microsoft's 2fa has actually never worked. they just like to fuck with people.
00:11 < rpifan> i hate 2fa in general
00:11 < CheckYourSix> It worked fine the first 2-3 times. Now it must think I'm not a person...
00:11 < CheckYourSix> And my option is to email support, not call... go fuck yourself, I guess I'll use Google apps instead
00:30 < m4221> Anyone deal with mental health issues in I
00:30 < m4221> IT?*
00:31 < rhqq> are you looking for a mental-mate ?
00:31 < czarbomba> isn't that what this channel is for?
00:32 < m4221> Nah, I want to compare notes
00:33 < m4221> rhqq: sure
00:36 < m4221> Hey misspwn
00:44 < m4221> Sousapro: hey
00:46 < rpifan> i got mental issues
00:46 < rpifan> depression
00:46 < rpifan> anxiety
00:46 < rpifan> sucidiality
00:46 < rpifan> aspie
00:47 < voidstar> why else would you be on irc?
00:47 < aleph-> Heh
00:53 < genr8_> +1
00:53 < rpifan> --1
01:02 < MillerBOSS> Well that is interesting. Makes sense. Google Duplex has been used internally to get business hours for say businesses on Google SERPs
01:03 < SocksPls> anyone ever used the caddy web server?
01:03 < genr8_> they are gonna have to announce themselves
01:03 < MillerBOSS> Have to why?
01:04 < MillerBOSS> Talk about it is here live twit.tv/live
01:06 < misspwn> hi czarbomba, m4221 , rpifan
01:06 < misspwn> also i love door dash
01:08 < rpifan> hello
01:08 < rpifan> why
01:08 < rpifan> ive been trying to work for them
01:08 < rpifan> door dash
01:12 < czarbomba> you should get a scooter and work for uber eats
01:15 < rpifan> i did
01:15 < rpifan> as a bike ride
01:16 < czarbomba> how did you balance the food
01:16 < czarbomba> are you a ninja
01:17 < rpifan> yes actually
01:17 < rpifan> back in my young days
01:17 < rpifan> i delivered pizza in tribeca
01:22 < MillerBOSS> rpifan 👉 Check out upwork.com
01:22 < rpifan> i did
01:22 < rpifan> nothing
01:22 < rpifan> got reject for al lthe jobs
01:25 < czarbomba> plz maek rain stopp
01:30 < Casteil> set me up a mole trap... hopefully going to spear some little yard-ruining sons'a bitches
01:32 < m4221> Casteil: my groundhog is back
01:32 < Casteil> I saw a groundhog too but I don't think he does any real damage to my lawn, it's mostly moles digging right below the surface and drying out grass roots
01:33 < misspwn> throw some food in the neighbors yard so the groundhog leaves
01:51 < genr8_> my neighbor was just talking to the other neighbor about groundhogs and moles... odd.
02:07 < czarbomba> some people cannot figure out how email works
02:07 < Casteil> genr8_: this is the time of year they start to get really active :P
02:08 < Casteil> if/when I spear one I'm going to leave it in its tunnel and hopefully strike fear into the other moles
02:09 < nojeffrey> With a card like this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Sealed-LSI-9260-8i-SAS-SATA-PCI-E-6Gb-RAID-Controller-Card-US-SameDayShip-/121790476226, can I use this in a freenas box to give me more sata ports? Or do I have to configure raid to use it?
02:10 < CheckYourSix> If it can be flashed to IT mode, yes. You don't want riad
02:10 < CheckYourSix> raid
02:11 < nojeffrey> i see, thanks
02:13 < catbeard> you might not want it with an LSI, but always raid if you can (sw raid included)
02:13 < catbeard> if you mean 'adding raid' that usually complicates things
02:14 < CheckYourSix> I'll clarify. You don't want HARDWARE RAID with ZFS. You want it to be in IT mode and act as an HBA
02:15 < catbeard> ah
02:15 < catbeard> zfs specific
02:15 < catbeard> e.g. raidz3
02:17 < CheckYourSix> Well, he asked about using that LSI in a FreeNAS box. I assumed the ZFS/no hardware RAID part was implied by that
02:17 < precise> TIP Tampa Bay Lightning
02:17 < precise> *RIP
02:18 < precise> czarbomba: You seein this shit?
02:20 < catbeard> gotcha
02:21 < SocksPls> how do i make ansible ask the ssh key pass
02:25 < catbeard> sshaskpass
02:25 < catbeard> muahaha
02:26 < precise> omfg
02:26 < precise> Fuck Tom Wilson
02:26 < precise> just barreled into the goalie
02:26 < precise> Fuck you man
02:27 < voidstar> FTW?
02:27 < precise> heh
02:28 < SocksPls> yea i just removed the password from my ssh key instead
02:28 < SocksPls> like a loser :c
02:29 < precise> GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLL
02:32 < precise> Heh
02:32 < precise> "High Stick"
02:32 < precise> He got hit with the puck
02:32 < precise> lmao
02:32 < precise> What a shit call
02:33 < catbeard> i'm a high stick
02:34 < precise> catbeard: orly?
02:34 < catbeard> precise: ly
02:34 < precise> wow
02:34 < precise> catbeard: Do an AMA
02:34 < catbeard> nevah!
02:36 < SocksPls> what
02:37 < precise> GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
02:37 < precise> 2-1 TAMPA
02:37 < precise> FUCK THE CAPS
02:39 < corn266> `lucky
02:39 < corn266> awe who killed layer-eight
02:39 < MillerBOSS> Hey corn266
02:39 < MillerBOSS> Its needs a +v
02:39 < MillerBOSS> It too
02:40 < corn266> are we in +m?
02:40 < catbeard> no
02:40 < catbeard> +rCcntf
02:40 < corn266> also my dad's name is corn266, y'all can call me corn
02:40 < MillerBOSS> If we were in +m we would not be able to chat
02:41 < corn266> Wait is this the same mute that occured on friday?
02:41 < MillerBOSS> I think you are confused
02:41 < MillerBOSS> :P
02:41 < precise> corn266: layer-eight censors itself if it doesn't have a +v
02:42 < corn266> ...
02:42 < SocksPls> agree
02:42 < corn266> So actual technical question; has anyone set up kleopatra with government issued PKI cards?
02:42 < enix> bruuuhhhh can't get to my boss to tell him i quit
02:43 < MillerBOSS> Leave a note enix
02:43 < genr8_> check , mate
02:44 < enix> nah man thats rude im just waiting for him to come back
02:44 < corn266> enix show up at his house in the nude and see if he reports you to HR
02:44 < enix> technically he can't becuase it's outside of work hours
02:45 < SocksPls> ftw
02:45 < genr8_> gottem
02:45 < m4221> corn266: but he can call the five o
02:46 < corn266> tell them it's past 5
02:46 < m4221> ...
02:46 < m4221> corn266: the popo
02:46 < corn266>  /s
02:47 < SocksPls> also what's ftw
02:47 < enix> popo cant do shit
02:48 < enix> it's only indecent exposure if it's not decent ;)
02:48 < corn266> So is it probation or straight jail time @enix
02:49 < enix> I'm not sure but @enix has a really good ring to it, don't you reckon crayon
02:49 < enix> who teh fuck is crayon
02:49 < enix> cryptic1:
02:49 < precise> enix: RITE?
02:50 < precise> I keep tab completing to crayon instead of cryptic1
02:50 < corn266> who the hell is crayon
02:50 < precise> crowd42 too
02:50 < precise> gtfo
02:50 < corn266> it's the FBI everyone scram
02:50  * precise scrams to his garbage bin
02:50 < precise> *trash can
02:51 < precise> WTF is a garbage bin
02:51  * corn266 scrams to the nearest cupboard
02:51 < corn266> FOUND THE BRIT
02:51  * enix scams to his managers office to quit
02:51 < precise> MFW my cat tries to steal my USB drive
02:51 < precise> Bruh, I need that
02:51 < precise> Get your paws back
02:51 < enix> "get your stinkin paws off them"
02:51 < corn266> break its' paws
02:51 < precise> D:
02:51  * precise hugs his cat
02:51 < precise> I would never
02:51 < enix> Take your stinking paws off me you damn dirty ape! **
02:51  * m4221 throws enix in a cell...in a Russian prisom
02:52 < enix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdmqn9JIuzc
02:52 < m4221> prison*
02:52 < corn266> nah those duodecahedron russian prisons are brutal, or so I hear
02:53 < enix> man why am i so nervous to quit
02:53 < corn266> enix I have an analogy
02:53 < corn266> today I tried firing off my .40 a few times
02:53 < enix> hit me
02:53 < enix> Yeah this went in a weird direction
02:53 < enix> Who at?
02:54 < enix> Also i regret saying "hit me" now.
02:54 < corn266> a hay bale that had sex with my woman
02:54 < enix> what in tarnation
02:54 < corn266> it's texas
02:54 < enix> what a guess
02:54 < precise> duodecahedron
02:54 < precise> Read that as douchecahedron
02:54 < corn266> after firing a few times and making sure it was dead; I was fearful of pressing the trigger for my own safety
02:54 < enix> precise: likewise
02:55 < enix> why
02:55 < enix> is the punchline goign to be "sometimes you just have to pull the trigger"
02:55 < corn266> It hurts to pull the trigger from the kickback
02:55 < enix> lil bitch
02:55 < corn266> eat me
02:55 < enix> big hat no cattle
02:56 < corn266> no hat no cattle
02:56 < enix> lol
02:56  * enix literally googled 'texan slang'
02:56 < enix> so you're scared of a .40's recoil.. continue
02:56 < corn266> I fired one shot of my 30-06 last weekend and said nope
02:57 < SocksPls> who put localhost in my ansible hosts
02:57 < SocksPls> :l
02:57 < corn266> It's weird though; I shouldn't be scared but it freaks me the fuck out
02:57 < corn266> SocksPls^^
02:57 < xe0n> morning
02:57 < enix> SocksPls: suck shit
02:57 < enix> corn266: so where was this going sorry
02:57 < corn266> DON'T BE AFRAID TO PULL THE TRIGGER
02:58 < corn266> DON'T BE ME
02:58  * enix runs out of his office to go quit
02:58 < enix> wtf techno music just started coming from his office
02:58 < enix> thats a good soundtrack
02:58 < corn266> do it enix
02:58 < corn266> dew it
02:58 < enix> do the dew
02:58 < enix> brb
02:58 < corn266> wait
02:58 < enix> take 10
02:58 < precise> da-da-da-da-da-darude
02:58 < enix> what
02:58 < corn266> do you have a job lined up
02:58 < enix> yes
02:58 < corn266> DEW IT
03:04 < enix> I can't tell if he's happy I'm leaving or if it's just extremely accustomed to having people quit his team
03:04 < enix> (we've had a lot of people quit)
03:05 < enix> (under his leadership)
03:07 < corn266> Jeez dude that must be some authoritarian regieme over there
03:09 < enix> His "solution" to any problem is to say the words "just do it"
03:09 < enix> he's a walking nike commercial
03:09 < enix> Nice enough bloke dont get me wrong. Would 100% have a beer with him without any hesitation, but he's not exactly up there on the list of shining management examples which I've had in my career
03:09 < enix> Which is unfortunate because under the right leadership this would be a fantastic job
03:17 < precise> noooooooooooooooooooooooo
03:17 < precise> Caps tied it
03:19 < enix> ?
03:22 < enix> what annoys me is that I fully expect to cop shit for this over the next month though
03:22 < enix> Like to be scrutinized in every way
03:22 < enix> The work place bullying is going to get worst -.-
03:24 < felda> FUCKIN WEW
03:24 < MillerBOSS> W E W
03:24 < felda> something in my users %appdata% 100% fucks Windows 10 start menu when I copy his profile to a new PC
03:24 < felda> I have no idea what is the cause of this fuckery
03:24 < felda> but it turned what was supposed to be 30 minutes into 3 hours
03:25 < hug> Protip: It's probably in %appdata%\microsoft
03:25 < hug> ;p
03:25 < MillerBOSS> I skip almost all of appdata but very specific folders
03:25 < sideup66> Loool felda
03:25 < felda> there's like 50 different reasons it could be broken ;_;
03:26 < felda> Ooops DropBox was installed and fucked it
03:26 < sideup66> Rip
03:26 < nohusuro> felda: you using USMT?
03:26 < felda> oops we broke Cortana make sure you insert a Win10 image and run /DISM
03:26 < MillerBOSS> Nuke that thing from orbit
03:26 < sideup66> Windows 10
03:26 < felda> nohusuro no
03:26 < sideup66> Felda windows 10 is run by cortana
03:28 < precise> Cortana is the Wizard of Oz behind the curtain
03:31 < sideup66> Felda if you break Cortana have fun reinstalling windows
03:32 < felda> yeah that's what I might have to do
03:32 < felda> really rustling my jammies
03:32 < felda> I got it to work by deleting the profile
03:32 < felda> deleting the profile in the registry
03:32 < felda> and then recreating the profile
03:32 < precise> Delete Cortana
03:32 < precise> problem solved
03:32 < rpifan> damn kdenlive
03:32 < felda> but I have no idea what is safe to copy from the old profile
03:33 < rpifan> been trying to edit this same footage
03:33 < rpifan> for the last severla months
03:33 < felda> so I'm taking it really slow
03:33 < rpifan> and it keeps fucking up
03:33 < felda> but it's late so I'm going home
03:40 < sideup66> Felda your jummies are rustled?
03:51 < togen> windows 10 really fucked with the start menu/bar. Like who the fuck uses Mail on Enterprise SKU?
03:52 < precise> togen: The same people who play Candy Crush in enterprise
03:52 < togen> Or watch netflix?
03:52 < enix> yay guess I get a $1000 phone bill this week
03:52 < precise> I like using some shitty Autodesk app they like to throw in there too togen
03:52 < enix> left my 4g tethered to my laptop which had a torrent running
03:52 < enix> fuck.
03:53 < precise> damn son
03:53 < precise> You seed?
03:53 < precise> NOOOOOOOOOo
03:53 < precise> 3-2 Caps
03:53 < togen> enix: telstra?
03:55 < czarbomba> THAT'S NO MOON IT'S A SPACE STATION
03:55 < rpifan> so switch pokemon is happening
03:56 < precise> NOOOOOOOOOOOO
03:56 < precise> 4-2 CAPS
03:56 < precise> NOOOOOOO
03:56 < precise> DMANIT"
03:56 < czarbomba> precise
03:56 < czarbomba> the penguins are to blame for all this
03:56 < precise> I chose the wrong game to drink during
03:56 < czarbomba> it is time for sidney to retire
03:56 < czarbomba> and for the penguins to close up shop
03:56 < czarbomba> no more hockey
03:56 < precise> czarbomba: Get your heretic ass into the sin bin
03:57 < czarbomba> NO MORE
03:57 < precise> SIN BIN
03:57  * czarbomba prepares the GIANT METAL FIST OF CONTRACTION
03:57 < czarbomba> vegas is now the NHL. there is no room for pittsburgh
03:57  * precise slashes czarbomba 
03:57 < precise> czarbomba: There's no room for you
03:57  * czarbomba crosschecks precise into the third row
03:57  * precise turns czarbomba into a hockey net
03:58 < czarbomba> eh brodeur will just knock me off the posts anyway
03:58 < precise> lol
03:58 < czarbomba> someone should count the number of free timeouts brodeur got for the devils in his career
03:58 < czarbomba> probably a record
03:58  * precise throws an octopus at czarbomba 
03:58 < czarbomba> OH NO HE SKATED NEAR ME I FELL WHAAAA
03:58 < precise> heh
03:58 < precise> INTERFERAHHHNCE!
03:59 < czarbomba> pfft the red weenies aren't relevant any more
03:59 < MillerBOSS> Windows Server 2016 MultiPoint Premium Server enables multiple users to access one computer; available only for academic licensing.
03:59 < MillerBOSS> I wonder why this is only got academic settings
03:59 < czarbomba> they came to the eastern conference and learned what real hockey is
03:59 < MillerBOSS> For as well
03:59  * precise smacks czarbomba 
03:59 < czarbomba> IS TRUTH
03:59  * precise smacks czarbomba again
03:59  * czarbomba spears precise
03:59  * precise stabs czarbomba 
03:59 < czarbomba> HEY YOU CAN'T HAVE A KNIFE ON THE ICE
03:59 < precise> With a rusty spoon
03:59 < czarbomba> REFS
03:59 < czarbomba> REFS
03:59 < precise> ITS A SPOON
03:59 < czarbomba> NO SPOONS IN HOCKEY
04:00 < precise> "play on!"
04:00 < czarbomba> it's a conspiracy!
04:00  * czarbomba gesticulates wildly
04:00 < precise> Just like that high sticking call earlier?
04:00 < precise> You see that?
04:00 < precise> Got hit with the puck and they called a high stick
04:00 < precise> lol
04:00 < precise> Then the lightning scored on that PP
04:01 < czarbomba> i'm watching the last jedi so i can be caught up for solo
04:01 < czarbomba> tl;dr i don't want to know unless someone takes out ovi
04:01  * precise takes out Ovi
04:01 < precise> czarbomba: Hey
04:01 < precise> Hey
04:01 < czarbomba> GO FOR THE KNEES
04:01 < precise> He no longer has knees
04:01 < precise> I replaced them with pucks
04:10 < sideup66> Felda
04:10 < rpifan> feldo
04:11 < sideup66> I have a delete system32 problem
04:11 < precise> felda felda felda
04:12 < rpifan> lol
04:12 < rpifan> do it
04:20 < xe0n> ive got the munchies
04:21 < catbeard> ive got sunshine
04:21 < czarbomba> in a bag?
04:21 < catbeard> i'm useless
04:22 < xe0n> it's sunny here too
04:22 < czarbomba> but not for long!
04:22 < catbeard> the future!
04:22 < czarbomba> (is goin on is goin on is goin on is goin on)
04:23 < czarbomba> heil xamithan
04:23 < catbeard> YEAAAAAHAEE
04:23 < catbeard> finally someone let me outta my cage
04:23 < czarbomba> thankfully there isn't as much schtick in the last jedi as there was in rogue one
04:24 < catbeard> nope, just schwords
04:24 < joelazot> hello
04:24 < catbeard> good evening and welcome to #r-s, may i take your order?
04:25 < joelazot> lmao
04:26 < corn266> wait a minute.. iceChat logs you out if you go afk on windows
04:26 < joelazot> hmm
04:27 < catbeard> woops!
04:27 < czarbomba> i think i just saw noah driving a large boat down the street
04:27 < joelazot> kek
04:27 < corn266> better go catch it *dad laugh dad laugh etc.*
04:28 < joelazot> .
04:31 < MikeSpears> gross https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/9qT7qGVE/20180513_223036.jpg
04:32 < rpifan> idk what that is
04:33 < corn266> Mike's infectious disease is losing to some anti-biotichs
04:33 < MikeSpears> Tampa Bay Lightning vs Washington Capitals
04:33 < MikeSpears> Capitals 5, lightning 2
04:34 < MikeSpears> I want the lightning to win
04:35 < rpifan> whats a lgitheing
04:38 < MikeSpears> Hockey
04:38 < czarbomba> on reflection it sure would be satisfying to watch ovi get SO close to his cup only to be defeated by a first year expansion team
04:43 < rpifan> i see
04:43 < rpifan> i watched some porn
04:43 < rpifan> where the guy had a hockey shirt
04:43 < rpifan> it was hot
04:44 < precise> FUCK THE CAPS!
04:44 < rpifan> lol
04:45 < precise> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
04:45 < precise> 6-2
04:45  * precise cries
04:45 < MikeSpears> Ikr
04:46 < precise> fite fite fite
04:47 < czarbomba> "your stanley cup champions the vegas golden knights"
04:48  * precise drools
04:49 < precise> Tampa, you now have one job.
04:49 < precise> Hurt the Caps
04:49 < precise> As much as u can
04:50 < precise> Take Ovi's Ovaries
04:50 < precise> Give Tom Wilson Wilson's disease
04:50 < precise> check check check
04:53 < czarbomba> anybody here fly xwings like luke was a super saiyan?
04:53 < precise> My daily driver is an xwing
04:53 < precise> I have a stolen tie in my garage tho
04:53 < czarbomba> i would trailer the xwing and rock the tie fighter on the daily
04:55 < precise> Its stolen tho
04:55 < precise> Don't want no trouble from some empire rats
04:56 < czarbomba> use an older code. it'll check out.
04:59 < precise> Until it doesnt
05:00 < precise> RIP Tampa
05:00 < precise> Goodnight everyone
05:01 < czarbomba> g'night
05:12 <+NinjaStyle> Hi
05:14 < czarbomba> hallo
05:14 < czarbomba> it's still raining here. i may have to sleep on the roof
05:14 < czarbomba> then i will be on CNN while waiting for FEMA
05:14 < czarbomba> and fox news will call me a snowflake
05:18 < rpifan> yea ftl is bad off
05:18 < rpifan> its dry here now
05:18 < Casteil> actual flooding or are you being facetious?
05:19 < rpifan> but if it pours morrow
05:19 < rpifan> ill have to wfh
05:19 < czarbomba> somewhere between the two :/
05:19 < czarbomba> we're always susceptible to areal flooding. in the summer we get the warnings six times a month.
05:19 < czarbomba> but this system is not playing around today.
05:20 <+NinjaStyle> I'm flying over a storm right now
05:20 < czarbomba> on the upside it took the edge off the heat and it has been absurdly pleasant for a may all day
05:20 < sideup66> NinjaStyle: dont crash
05:20 < czarbomba> except for the whole overcast and raining thing
05:20 <+NinjaStyle> I'll do my best
05:20 < czarbomba> ninjastyle tell them to dip into the storm a bit and sample the weather
05:20 <+NinjaStyle> Lol no ty
05:21 <+NinjaStyle> It's somewhere over the panhandle
05:21 < sideup66> Meh, a little lightning won't hurt the plane
05:21 < czarbomba> texas panhandle?
05:21 <+NinjaStyle> Said the guy safe in his house
05:21 < rpifan> well im in miami beach
05:21 < rpifan> we flood
05:21 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah
05:21 < rpifan> even in the dry months
05:22 < rpifan> stupid sobe
05:22 < czarbomba> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXTx_nEThPA
05:23 < rpifan> one of my fav moies of all time
05:23 < czarbomba> hmm that was a little more of the scene than i wanted but it made the point
05:23 < rpifan> the guy
05:23 < rpifan> was actually one of the first
05:23 < rpifan> out gay actors
05:23 < czarbomba> airplane! was one of the movies that perfected absurdist comedy
05:23 < rpifan> he died after airplane was made
05:24 < rpifan> its also the movie that made leslie nielson
05:24 < rpifan> before that he was only a serious actor
05:24 < rpifan> which was part of the reason they cast him
05:25 <+NinjaStyle> I haven't watched airplane as an adult
05:25  * NinjaStyle ducks
05:25 < rpifan> ive watched it so many times
05:25 < rpifan> first time i saw it was on ecuadorian tv
05:25 < rpifan> it was dubbed in spanish
05:25 < rpifan> still funny
05:25 < rpifan> i also watched the precursor to it
05:25 < rpifan> the kentucky fried movie
05:25 < rpifan> it wasnt very good
05:26 < rpifan> but thats where zucker and zucker cut their teeth
05:28 < rpifan> i hope this movie is in the library of congress
05:37 <+NinjaStyle> I'm bored in the sky
05:41  * Casteil depressurizes NinjaStyle's plane 
05:41 < Casteil> that ought to spice things up a bit
05:41 <+NinjaStyle> Lol
05:41 <+NinjaStyle> I'm just listening to a podcast chilling
05:45 < rpifan> where r u going NinjaStyle and how u online
05:46 <+NinjaStyle> I paid for interwebs
05:46 <+NinjaStyle> Dallas
05:46 < rpifan> how much longer
05:47 < rpifan> how good is the in plane wifi
05:47 < rpifan> last time i had wifi
05:47 < rpifan> was when they introduced go go internet
05:47 < rpifan> and they were giving an hour for free
05:47 < rpifan> so like 8 years ago
05:47 < rpifan> i dont fly usually
05:47 <+NinjaStyle> It's ok. About another hour
05:47 < rpifan> when i fly international
05:47 < rpifan> i only go to poor places
05:47 < rpifan> so they dont have interents either
05:47 <+NinjaStyle> They had to fly round a storm
05:47 < rpifan> probably the one sitting at my place
05:48 < nojeffrey> For an ESXI host: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dell-R720-2U-SERVER-2x-E5-2667-V2-3-3ghz-8C-352GB-Ram-H710-2x-200gb-SSD-2x-PSU/323232543655?hash=item4b422933a7:g:RzsAAOSw61Va5n2U
05:48 < rpifan> expensive
05:48 < nojeffrey> 11 x 32GB(total 352GB)
05:48 < rpifan> ive seen those servers go for like 100 usd
05:49 <+NinjaStyle> Seems high for sure
05:49 <+NinjaStyle> When with all that ram
05:49 <+NinjaStyle> Even*
05:49 < nojeffrey> I've seen some shitty ones with basic 4C xeons, 16GB ram for maybe $500 cheapest I've seen
05:50 < nojeffrey> memory prices are through the roof today, seems like a good deal
05:51 < rpifan> why
05:51 < rpifan> is memory going up
05:51 < rpifan> i did find it weird that 8gb of ram was like 100 something
05:51 < rpifan> for my new laptop
05:59 < MikeSpears> sup monoxane
05:59 < monoxane> oh hey im not banned thats nice, i can actually be a sysadmin now :P
05:59 < MikeSpears> lol
06:05 < rpifan> nein
06:25 < catbeard> not yet
06:54 < MikeSpears> fuuuu https://i.imgur.com/BNZmqdd.png
07:24 < enix> man im looking forward to working with syslog again
07:24 < enix> is rsyslogd into phplogcoin still a thing?
07:26 < voidstar> I got excited that piping my logs to some random on the internet could earn me cryptocurrency
07:26 < voidstar> then realized it was a typo
07:26 < enix> whaaa
07:26 < enix> ???
07:26 < voidstar> >phplogcoin
07:46 < enix> lol
07:46 < enix> oh
07:46 < enix> lol
07:46 < enix> whats the term used for pretty links. like reddit.com/r/sysadmin
07:46 < enix> I've configured it kinda but every time I used /r/sysadmin in my own app, it seems to act like it's operating inside of /r
07:47 < enix> so if my index echo $_GET['path'] and i have a rewrite rule for .* to go to index.php?path=$1
07:47 < enix> and i go to /r, it works but not /r/sysadmin
07:48 < hug> Routes.
07:54 < enix> hug: huh?
07:55 < hug> Are you using PHP?
07:55 < hug> I know Laravel does it.
07:56 < hug> A quick google says that Klein is a decent single-file route framework for PHP
08:01 < enix> idk if i want to splice in another framework
08:01 < ThatOneRoadie> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAD9Y74H8298 $200 for 1TB NVMe
08:02 < enix> wtf
08:02 < enix> i want
08:02 < enix> Why am I poor :(
08:02 < enix> at least new job pays well. I shouldn't be poor with my new job :)
08:05 < enix> yeah im not keen to splice in something like laravel or klein
08:06 < enix> I want /page/data which get's passed through a script
08:07 < enix> page determines the template that I use, where data is the data I pass to it. for example /news/title-of-news-article looks up all slugs that match that slug in the database, and displays it as a news article
08:07 < enix> I just cant get it passing through to the app well enough
08:08 < enix> https://pastebin.com/WafUueHt
08:08 < enix> It's giving me an arrya but it appears to be in reverse order lmfao
08:09 < enix> hug: thoughts?
08:10 < hug> http://blogs.shephertz.com/2014/05/21/how-to-implement-url-routing-in-php/#
08:10 < hug> Google more on URL routes. It's what you want to do.
08:15 < enix> okay thank you :)
08:15 < enix> did you hear I got a new job?
08:16 < enix> HOLY CUNT SORES WHY DID I NOT THINK OF THAT
08:16  * enix is a fucking idiot
08:16 < enix> I've fucking done that in the past
08:16 < enix> fuck.
09:45 < packeteer> enix: I shouldn't be poor with my new job  <- it takes a few months to catch up
10:10 < jumi> morning
10:10 < ihre> moin
10:17 < Hatsjoe> Moin
11:09 < ihre> they're raffling one aws re:invent ticket at work
11:09 < ihre> im not sure if i want to go tbh :D
11:37 < thms> o/
11:50 < aleph-> Moin
12:37 < CheckYourSix> Fucking Mondays
12:38 < Billy2> /agree
12:59 < jumi> Friday here :) got tomorrow off
12:59 < jumi> regional holiday
13:32 < rhqq> > you cant complain about mondays when you work 24x7
13:34 < monoxane> anyone wanna cringe? this is my shitty `10 gig` ethernet for testing... https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/418866972814737420/445549192375566347/316b466b-6f70-4489-82db-593baba4238d.png
13:35 < monoxane> that entire switch is just for 2 r710s and my desktop
13:40 < onicrom> anyone an arista person?
13:40 < miggyb> Anyone here using GhettoVCB in production? I'm using Veeam right now to manage an ESXi 6.5 box but trying to move away from it
13:42 < jumi> monoxane: I've seen worse setups in productive environments, I don't know what you're complaining about
13:42 < JoShi> i have a user that may only use the PC for 1 website and word, how can i accomplish this?
13:43 < monoxane> seriously?
13:43 < monoxane> wow
13:43 < JoShi> is there a thirdparty shell kind of thing i can install or something like that?
13:46 < jumi> anyone here experienced with active directory and external applications?
13:46 < jumi> I'm trying to update some entries from an external system (SAP to be precise) and I keep getting error 053 from AD
13:54 < onicrom> every storage vendor i talk to is always shocked that my usecase is 90% writes and 10% reads... is it just finance that his this kind of profile?
13:58 < rhqq> usually it is other way around
13:59 < rhqq> but it sounds reasonable in your use case anyway.
14:06 < nyox> morning gents
14:06 < rhqq> afternoon
14:06 < Casteil> "What do you know about printers"
14:06 < Casteil> ..for your sake, nothing
14:06 < Casteil> >.>
14:06 < giant_it_burrit> rhqq: we store shit, we dont do a lot of pulling from the san
14:06 < rhqq> i know a guy who's known to be a printer whisperer
14:07 < rhqq> giant_it_burrit: well, in most cases you upload some data once and then it's used for a long period of time by other users
14:07 < giant_it_burrit> am aware
14:08 < rhqq> for me for every 10mb uploaded i have 100gb of reads
14:08 < giant_it_burrit> jesus
14:08 < rhqq> typical web service
14:08 < giant_it_burrit> thats a lot of harry potter fan fic
14:08 < rhqq> books
14:08 < rhqq> close enough :)
14:08 < giant_it_burrit> so twilight
14:08 < rhqq> yeah, and all the harlequins
14:08 < rhqq> (im cereal...)
14:09 < rhqq> actually let me find how much twilight do we have =]
14:11 < rhqq> ehh, my internet is shit
14:12 < giant_it_burrit> just like your books
14:12 < giant_it_burrit> haHA
14:12 < rhqq> true
14:12 < rhqq> i dont care, money is money
14:13 < Casteil> "I'm not gay but $20 is $20"
14:13 < nyox> My employer currently has no desktop management. I'm trying to decide if I want to recommend a RMM solution or do something like AWS Directory service (we have no hardware) with VPN site to site for offices and always on vpn for all remote employees. We have approximately 250 users.
14:14 < giant_it_burrit> what os
14:14 < giant_it_burrit> windows?
14:14 < nyox> Windows
14:14 < giant_it_burrit> loonix?
14:14 < Casteil> nyox: we could use a little of that here
14:14 < giant_it_burrit> why not use azure
14:14 < Casteil> ...I've moved away from general IT though :P
14:14 < SpookyDaddy> Good morning.
14:14 < nyox> azure AD doesn't have GPO
14:15 < giant_it_burrit> what do you mean you have no hardware
14:15 < nyox> no servers
14:15 < nyox> everything is in AWS/Azure
14:16 < nyox> and all employees were given laptops
14:16 < SpookyDaddy> nyox, You can use Intune for some of the management. But it's not true GPO.
14:16 < giant_it_burrit> ^
14:16 < nyox> I was thinking intune but its like $20k/yr
14:16 < giant_it_burrit> spin up ad in aws
14:17 < nyox> We already use office365 so Intune is definitely a consideration
14:18 < SpookyDaddy> nyox, It's included in Microsoft 365 E3.
14:18 < SpookyDaddy> We upgraded our Tenant to MS365 over O365
14:19 < SpookyDaddy> nyox, But yeah, Intune is expensive standalone. I really enjoy having the tool though.
14:19 < nyox> our IT manager got "visio online plan 2" from reseller appriver
14:20 < nyox> I'm the companies linux admin but I got pulled it to fix this desktop mess.
14:20 < SpookyCrisp> Oh damn.
14:28 < gavit> Veaam users, I'm running a trial of the veaam backup software. I'm trying to make a backup of a linux vm with an agent. When it asks for a location to store the backup, is this a location the vm should be able to reach, or a location that the veaam server should be able to reach?
14:30 < SpookyCrisp> gavit, Veeam should be able to reach it is the way I understood it when I did an eval of Veeam.
14:31 < Nightcinder> hello
14:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> mornin
14:43 < L3gacy> Good morning peeps
14:43 < giant_it_burrit> hope your coffee is decafe
14:47 < miggyb> how dare
14:47 < miggyb> I set up Veeam to talk to a FreeBSD server thinking that it's a Linux server. Is this going to bite me in the ass?
14:49 < miggyb> talk to = use as a backup repository
14:53 < gavit> SpookyCrisp: odd, I cant seem to make a backup. Eventhough the vm should be able to reach the storage
14:53 < corn266> Morning all
14:55 < miggyb> gavit: is it giving you any useful error?
14:58 < int0x1C8> error 69: shit's wack, yo
14:59 < miggyb> lmao that's the sex number
15:02 < McDonaldsWiFi> why is reddit's new layout so garbage
15:02 < McDonaldsWiFi> and now they got rid of the old button so I have to manually type old.* -.-
15:04 <@Code_Man65> McDonaldsWiFi:  Because they wanted a "modern" design
15:05 < Bru-> morn
15:07 < McDonaldsWiFi> I'm gonna make an addon that makes every pagelook like 1995
15:07 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
15:07 < Bru-> giggity
15:08 < corn266> So I came back from the weekend and now my workstation won't let me use apt-get; anyone else having this issue?
15:08 < Bru-> which kernel?
15:08 < giant_it_burrit> popcorn
15:08 < Bru-> i type apt-get update into my powershell window
15:08 < corn266> 4.15.0-20-generic
15:08 < Bru-> NOTHING HAPPENS
15:09 < Bru-> wtf m8
15:09 < corn266> ubuntu 18.04
15:09 < Bru-> hmm weird
15:09 < arlion> good morning
15:09 < Bru-> corn266: even with sudo?
15:09 < corn266> can't even add myself to a sudoers file since my user can't use visudo
15:10 < arlion> corn266: what is the error, do a `ps -ef | grep apt`
15:10 < corn266> Bru-: yes
15:10 < arlion> ooopppp, your sudo file is fucked
15:10 < corn266> <user>      4479  4364  0 09:10 pts/1    00:00:00 grep --color=auto apt
15:10 < arlion> well... what's the error
15:10 < corn266> frick
15:10 < arlion> maybe maybe I might have jumped to that one too quickly
15:10 < arlion> what does visudo do?
15:11 < corn266> safely add sudoers functions
15:11 < giant_it_burrit> lets you edit sudoers fils
15:11 < arlion> I know what it does
15:11 < arlion> I want to know when you do visudo what does it report back
15:11 < corn266> Sorry, user <user> is not allowed to execute '/usr/sbin/visudo -f /etc/sudoers.d/aptget' as root on <user>.
15:11 < arlion> can you `sudo su -` ?
15:12 < tsarbomba> Code_Man65: back to work
15:12 < tsarbomba> arlion: back to work
15:12 < corn266> nope
15:12 < arlion> bitch I am working
15:12 < tsarbomba> corn266: back to work
15:12 < tsarbomba> giant_it_burrit: back to work
15:12 < tsarbomba> Bru-: back to work
15:12 < arlion> corn266: do you know the root password?
15:12 < tsarbomba> cryptic1: make me a sandwich
15:12 < giant_it_burrit> tsarbomba: ill work you like the prolitariet
15:12 < arlion> corn266: can you do, su root
15:12 < corn266> No root user
15:12 < arlion> there is always a root user.
15:12 < int0x1C8> tsarbomba is a russian troll!!
15:13 < SynMonger> you say that like it's news
15:13 < int0x1C8> oh. ok then carry on
15:13 < corn266> well then no, I don't know the root pw
15:13 < arlion> okay.
15:13 < arlion> so you don't have sudo. I don't think your sudo is corrupt
15:14 < corn266> F
15:14 < arlion> what happens when you do `sudo cat /etc/shadow`
15:14 < corn266> can't sudo cat
15:14 <@Code_Man65> Sounds like you need to boot into single mode and check your sudoers file
15:14 < arlion> same
15:14 < abakedapplepie> cant sudo cat?
15:15 < corn266> Wouldn't know what to look for, though
15:15 < arlion> when you visudo in single user tty you should get an error back when you attempt to save
15:15 < arlion> *single user runmode.
15:16 < arlion> if you don't get an error, add yourself to the sudoers lol
15:17 < corn266> I might try the test user first, but will do. Thanks
15:19 <@mistiry> good morning
15:19 < arlion> Another linux machine fixed and not even nominated.
15:19 < hxcsp> good morning
15:19 <@mistiry> i have returned
15:19 < arlion> such as life in soviet #reddit-sysadmin.
15:19 < giant_it_burrit> yay?
15:20 < arlion> mistiry: Welcome Back.. Where did you go ?
15:20 <@mistiry> kentucky
15:20 < hxcsp> im trying to think of something interesting in Kentucky right now and cant
15:21 <@mistiry> not a whole lot
15:21 <@mistiry> was there for work
15:21 < arlion> oh, I love Kentucky. Well only thing was the low alcohol tax and the warehouse of booze I visited there.
15:21 < nyox> bourbon
15:21 < nyox> moonshine
15:21 < hxcsp> whiskey. that sounds like kentucky
15:21 < hxcsp> or fried chicken
15:22 <@mistiry> both a KFC and a bourbon shop were in my line of sight the moment i walked off the plane and into the airport there
15:22 <@mistiry> actually probably more than one bourbon shop
15:22 <@mistiry> there was like 6
15:22 <@mistiry> in the airport
15:22 <@mistiry> on just the side i was on
15:22 < int0x1C8> kentucky is only interesting to me in that it's closer to alabama than where I live in wisconsin
15:22 < int0x1C8> dad's side of my family are in alabama
15:23 < nyox> We have family friends that moved there. They always bring moonshine and bourbon when they visit
15:24 < nyox> The moonshine will get you in trouble. It's incredibly smooth
15:25 < int0x1C8> that depends entirely on the setup of the distiller
15:25 < corn266> Welp, one more bandage on a festering wound won't hurt
15:25 < int0x1C8> 'true' moonshine made in the middle of a forest will usually taste pretty awful
15:26 < corn266> Allowed my current user to be able to call `su` from a testuser account that still had sudo perms
15:27 < DomLS3> cinnamon apple pie moonshine is the tits
15:27 < corn266> DomLS3 ++
15:27 < FenJai> Considering a large portion of workstations have TPM, what is the use case for those nano yubikeys which are designed to always be plugged in ?
15:27 < FenJai> https://www.yubico.com/product/yubikey-4-series/#yubikey-4c-nano
15:27 < ebol4> you can feel like you're improving security without actually improving anything
15:30 < corn266> FenJai: possibly travel, so you can keep the key safe while the computer is not in use
15:31 < Hatter>  why does maltego keep prompting me after a successful login
15:31 < corn266> You're Hatter's evil twin brother and maltego knows it
15:33 < ebol4> what's TPM
15:34 <@Code_Man65> Trusted Platform Module
15:34 < Hatter> what's QFN?
15:34 < Hatter> hurry
15:34 < ebol4> quick fox nog
15:34 < Hatter> well at least you tried
15:35 <@Code_Man65> Quality Fucking News
15:35 < ebol4> qfn = QFN. freakin nice.
15:36 < corn266> Are those who have upgrade to 1803 turning off timeline?
15:39 < ekaj> `bofh
15:39 < ekaj> REEEEEEEEEE
15:39 < DomLS3> Would getting updates from porn sites be considered quality "fucking" news?
15:39 < ebol4> RIOT
15:39 < ekaj> pornhub has some news highlights sometimes
15:39 < DomLS3> I don't really like pornhub
15:40 < ebol4> pornography promotes harmful attitudes towards sex and women
15:41 < ekaj> i know a kid from college who is anti-porn, says it's why so many women are abused, your mind is unhealthy, etc
15:41 < GreyKite> ekaj: what does he say about girls that watch porn?
15:41 < ekaj> GreyKite: prob same stuff
15:41 < srg> What about gay porn?
15:42 < ebol4> like lesbians?
15:42 < ekaj> he'd have a heart attack if he thought about that probably
15:42 < GreyKite> heh
15:42 < GreyKite> upstanding christian type?
15:42 < ekaj> yessir
15:42 < ekaj> our school was a "methodist" college
15:42 < GreyKite> probably touched little boys
15:42 < ekaj> although I'm pretty sure 90% of everyone there was atheist
15:43 < ebol4> GreyKite: that's catholics
15:43 < hxcsp> Stormy Daniels didnt seem abused
15:43 <@Code_Man65> Let's not get into religion
15:43 < ebol4> Code_Man65 confirmed anti-religion
15:43 < DomLS3> Code_Man65: But we can stay on the porn topic?
15:43 <@Code_Man65> So long as you keep it SFW
15:43 < DomLS3> oof
15:43 < DomLS3> <3
15:43 <@Code_Man65> The instant something NSFW shows up, done
15:44 < NOTabuse_Man65> <<
15:44 < tapoxi> Code_Man65: reddit.com/r/birdwithhumanpenises
15:44 < DomLS3> wat
15:44 < tapoxi> *birds
15:44 < tapoxi> reddit.com/r/birdswithhumanpenises
15:44 < SynMonger> can't have adults covering adult conversations
15:44 < SynMonger> where do yo think we are?
15:45 < tapoxi> Code_Man65: reddit.com/r/dragonsfuckingcars is better
15:45 < ebol4> Austin_Bryan: you got 2 first names my man
15:45 < DomLS3> carsfuckingdragons
15:45 < DomLS3> omfg
15:45 < ebol4> two of them
15:45 < TuxedoJack> ... seek professional help
15:45 <@Code_Man65> Anyway, let's get back to safer topics
15:46 < TuxedoJack> Rage is coming in to find that a server got CryptoWall Friday morning
15:46 < TuxedoJack> And no one fucking said anything until today
15:46 < DomLS3> how did a single server get cryptowall
15:46 <@Code_Man65> As a suggestion, using a SQL DB as the source for DSC ConfigurationData
15:46 < DomLS3> it had to have come from somewhere else
15:46 < tsarbomba> lol fox is trying to do a lethal weapon series without riggs
15:46 < TuxedoJack> DomLS3: Single-server environment at a tiny accountant client
15:46 <@Code_Man65> I saw that TuxedoJack
15:46 < TuxedoJack> Shitfuckigntons of goddamn .msg files attached to their QB files
15:46 <@Code_Man65> It's going to end after next season or Riggs will come back
15:47 < DomLS3> TuxedoJack: question still stands. How does a single server get cryptowall
15:47 < DomLS3> do they operate on the server?
15:47 < srg> DomLS3: Infinite regress
15:47 < Hatter> wasn't that lethal weapon some awful SJW mess?
15:47 < Hatter> I'm annoyed sean williams scott is involved with it now, I like him
15:47 <@Code_Man65> Nah, it is actually pretty good
15:47 < tapoxi> yo anyone here do a lot of python + mysql
15:47 < TuxedoJack> DomLS3: dumb fucking user fell for an .docx attachment and hit every share she had access to
15:47 < hxcsp> no only a lot of python and mysql seperately
15:47 < hxcsp> not together
15:48 < tsarbomba> to hatter, an "sjw mess" is a show that depicts a white man and a black man getting along
15:48 < tapoxi> hxcsp: rats
15:48 < Hatter> tsarbomba: well they can do anything with special effects these days
15:48 < tapoxi> whats a sjw anyway, super jehovas witness?
15:49 < tapoxi> pretty sure I played that on the snes
15:49 < corn266> `sjw
15:49 < corn266> awe
15:50 < DomLS3> TuxedoJack: ah ok that makes sense
15:50 < DomLS3> I figured a user had to have gotten hit
15:50 < hxcsp> social justice warrior
15:50 < DomLS3> pfsense
15:50 < DomLS3> ha
15:51 < DomLS3> felda: you still banned from the jrsysadmin chan?
15:51 < felda> nah I'm not a loser
15:51 < tsarbomba> felda, what's the best firewall in the world??
15:51 < ebol4> what goes on in #jrsysadmin
15:51 < giant_it_burrit> windows
15:51 < tapoxi> tsarbomba: he knows its firewalld
15:51 < felda> ebol4 nothing good
15:51 < ebol4> netfilter
15:51 < tsarbomba> GASP
15:52 < TuxedoJack> DomLS3: there was another client who reused a password and had a domain account named "test" with RDP rights to the TS farm
15:52 < felda> Windows Server 2003 SBS is the best firewall I ever had
15:52  * tsarbomba sheds a tear
15:52 < tapoxi> :%s/firewall/honeypot/g
15:52 < DomLS3> TuxedoJack: lawl
15:53 < TuxedoJack> Meanwhile, I'm up until 3:30 finishing TuxPE 10, and I get up at 7:45 to see this shit
15:53 < TuxedoJack> And I just want to choke a bitch
15:53 < DeVito> Oooh new TuxPE
15:53 < tsarbomba> it's weird seeing steely dan tour with just donald fagan
15:53 < tsarbomba> fagen
15:53 < TuxedoJack> DeVito: I even hid a few easter eggs in
15:53 < DeVito> I'm hype
15:53 < TuxedoJack> 0 118...
15:54 < DomLS3> TuxedoJack: good backups?
15:54 < DomLS3> I had an exchange server get hit a few years ago
15:54 < DomLS3> there's was no recovering from it. Had to do a full reinstall and restore of the DBs
15:55 < TuxedoJack> DomLS3: nightly, yeah, good and restoring already
15:55 < TuxedoJack> Via Teracopy from the AppAssure server
15:55 < TuxedoJack> 60K+ files to do, though
15:55 < TuxedoJack> And they're all fucking tiny
15:55 < DomLS3> turns out you can reinstall windows and exchange without having to manually uninstall Exchange first (we couldn't uninstall exchange because all the system files got encrypted)
15:56 < int0x1C8> so with this MS update that breaks RDP, what is credSSP?
15:56 <@Code_Man65> int0x1C8:  Think ssh agent forwarding
15:57 <@Code_Man65> But it has issues, specifically your creds become easier to compromise
15:58 < int0x1C8> do I need to care if RDP in my environment is local-only
15:58 < giant_it_burrit> yes
15:58 <@Code_Man65> Yes
15:58 < giant_it_burrit> you need to set it
15:58 < giant_it_burrit> otherwise patch may breaky
15:58 <@Code_Man65> Don't skip security updates
15:58 < tsarbomba> refuse2patch 2018
15:59 < ebol4> RIOT
16:00 < DomLS3> can't break your system if you don't patch
16:00 < DomLS3> ;)
16:00 < DomLS3> Isn't that right MillerBOSS?
16:01 < int0x1C8> so the fix is just to patch all client and servers?
16:01 < DomLS3> yes
16:01 < DomLS3> but if you patch one and not the other, RDP won't work
16:01 < int0x1C8> unless you use that GPO work around right?
16:02 <@Code_Man65> Correct
16:03 < int0x1C8> k, I'll throw that on, and get everything patched this week, then turn it off and deal with the outliers
16:04 < JollyRgrs> anyone listen to the new Shinedown album?
16:04 < ebol4> shinedown still exists
16:04 < ebol4> huh
16:04 < JollyRgrs> ebol4: yes
16:04 < JollyRgrs> new album so far is pretty dope
16:04 < JollyRgrs> it is woke
16:04 < ebol4> i like the devour song
16:04 < JollyRgrs> like, totally lit
16:05 < JollyRgrs> the album is on fleek
16:05 < ebol4> now you're speakin my language
16:05 < JollyRgrs> hahaha, i thought one of those might get through to you
16:05 < ebol4> i am picking up what you're putting down
16:05 < JollyRgrs> ebol4: are you picking up what i'm dropping?
16:06 < ebol4> like a man walking a dog
16:06 < JollyRgrs> b/c i'm dropping dope bass
16:06 < JollyRgrs> ... and ass
16:06 < ekaj>  RIP pretty sure I just locked myself out of an appliance
16:06 < JollyRgrs> ekaj: local or remote?
16:06 < ebol4> firewall.... drop all....
16:06 < ekaj> local thankfully, but I may need to call support. I'll know a minute
16:06 < JollyRgrs> my Palo Alto drops it like it's hot
16:08 < ekaj> nah im good
16:08 < ebol4> what the heck is wow64
16:08 < ekaj> some windows shit
16:08 < ekaj> makes stuff run
16:09 < ebol4> ah i see
16:09 < JollyRgrs> ebol4: srsy question?
16:09 <@Code_Man65> 64-bit
16:09 < ebol4> yeah, figured it out, i googled it
16:09 < JollyRgrs> wow = windows on windows, right?
16:09 < ebol4> yeah, it's the 32-bit windows subsystem on 64-bit windows
16:09 < tsarbomba> wow as in "wow, this ancient shit still works?"
16:09 < JollyRgrs> ebol4: bingo
16:10 < JollyRgrs> as in system32 has the 64-bit things and syswow64 has the 32 bit things
16:10 < JollyRgrs> makes perfect sense, right?
16:10 < ny0x> yes
16:10 < JollyRgrs> #inthenameofbackwardscompat
16:10 < ebol4> backwards cherry compote
16:10 < JollyRgrs> that's been the MSFT mantra for the last 20 yrs or so?
16:14 <@Code_Man65> And any time they have made any noise about removing something like that, customers have been up in arms
16:15 < JollyRgrs> yup
16:15 < Sousapro> didn't they make noises about removing WoW?
16:15 < ebol4> is there a more detailed explanation of the credssp vuln than "The CredSSP protocol does not properly validate requests during authentication. A remote user that can conduct a man-in-the-middle attack can relay user credentials and use them to execute code on the target system."
16:15 < JollyRgrs> that's pretty much why pagefile still sucks and is inefficient in windows
16:15 <@Code_Man65> That's why Access is still a thing, and why Exchange Public Folders are still a thing
16:15 < ebol4> everything i can find is very general
16:15 < Sousapro> Code_Man65: but exchange public folders are the best way to annoy sysadmins with whining
16:16 < Sousapro> Code_Man65: otherwise, I can't see a point since like exchange 2007
16:16 <@Code_Man65> Public folders need to diaff
16:16 < Sousapro> ++
16:16 < Sousapro> ebol4: that's pretty much it. this is a really bad vuln
16:17 < darkscrypt> https://www.facebook.com/stuff4youto/videos/1056976604459085/
16:17 < darkscrypt> nsfw
16:17 < darkscrypt> mildly nsfw
16:17 <@Code_Man65> DON'T POST NSFW SHIT
16:17 < Sousapro> it autoopened for me -_-
16:19 < JollyRgrs> Sousapro: auto opened? wtf kind of irc client you use?
16:19 < Hatter> someone describe that video please
16:19 < JollyRgrs> also, Sousapro, lemme PM you some good links :)
16:19 < Sousapro> JollyRgrs: IRC Cloud lol
16:19 < Sousapro> JollyRgrs: it showed a full screen preview lmao
16:20 < JollyRgrs> Sousapro: what was it?
16:20 < ebol4> is credssp unencrypted or something, i don't understand
16:20 < ebol4> how is someone getting a mitm
16:21 < JollyRgrs> Sousapro: and yeah... this is a perfect reason why you'd not want a preview
16:21 < Sousapro> JollyRgrs: looked like a bar with dudes wearing japanese school girl outfits
16:21 < Sousapro> or something
16:21 < JollyRgrs> also, i remember a while back, a guy on freenode was spamming CP links to people in PMs and in channels
16:21 < Sousapro> I was too busy reaching for the eject handles to really notice lol
16:21 < JollyRgrs> i went back and deleted from my logs
16:21 < Hatter> oh shit that might be in my logs
16:21 < Hatter> what's the url
16:21 < Hatter> just kidding
16:22 < corn266> ebol4: probably someone acting as a proxy or something
16:23 < Sousapro> hatter: www.fbi.gov
16:23 < JollyRgrs> unquiet darkscrypt!*@*
16:23 < Sousapro> Hatter: I've heard you can request CP and they'll deliver it in person
16:23 < grumplestiltzkin> .yt stompy the bear
16:23 < grumplestiltzkin> yall need some stompy
16:23 < corn266> I heard Chris Hanson himself shows up to deliver it
16:23 < Hatter> please stop telling me things about CP
16:23 < Sousapro> corn266: ++
16:24 < Sousapro> who doesn't love cheese pizza though?
16:24 < Sousapro> is this not what we are talking about?
16:24 < Hatter> oh lol I thought you meant
16:24 < JollyRgrs> unquiet darkscrypt!*@*
16:24 < Hatter> nevermind
16:24 < Hatter> the heck are you doing JR
16:25 < binaryhermit> how did the nsfw thing come up?
16:25 < corn266> "Posted one little link and the mods got scared"
16:26 < binaryhermit> I know there's apparently a porn-by-email service that's a result of the uk porn bs
16:26 < binaryhermit> I'm not going to link to anything
16:26 < darkscrypt> my apologies. I misunderstood the rules about those sort of links.
16:26 < darkscrypt> I thought just prefixing it with nsfw was enough.
16:27 < Bru-> yay
16:27 < Bru-> got my mailbox back
16:28 < Bru-> had to blow the mailbox away and export psts from backups
16:28 < Bru-> good times
16:28 < Bru-> "sorry users that have my email autocompleted in outlook!"
16:30 < Alternity> so is using a group managed service account actually more secure than using a normal domain user account?
16:31 < giant_it_burrit> someplaces restrict logon as a service so maybe
16:32 < Alternity> gma's block interactive login
16:32 < JFDkthx> Alternity: gotta get thos freerange logins
16:32 < JFDkthx> guilt free
16:33 < Alternity> with managed service accounts you can get the password if you have local admin on the machine it's used on
16:33 < rhqq> JFDkthx: do they have vegan organic option too?
16:34 < Alternity> automatic password rotation is nice tho
16:34 < Alternity> but even updating service account passwords seems a bit outdated
16:34 < Alternity> just give it a 30 char password and be done
16:34 < Hatter> is there a dark theme for excel?
16:34 < JollyRgrs> can't theme excel
16:34 <@Code_Man65> Alternity:  Or use MSA's and be done with it
16:34 < JollyRgrs> b/c people format colors
16:34 < JollyRgrs> you could set a new default scheme ifyou wanted i guess
16:35 < Hatter> that would be sure to annoy
16:35 < JollyRgrs> just save the normal.dot equiv. of excel
16:37 < JFDkthx> Alternity: haha no changing service account passwords hahaha
16:37 < JFDkthx> corp changes service account passwords every 30 days
16:38 < JFDkthx> 20 characters.
16:38 < Alternity> NIST recommends getting rid of required password changes
16:38 < JFDkthx> yeah
16:38 <@Code_Man65> MSA's auto-rotate on a schedule, and the password length is 120 characters.  Not that having it does you any good.
16:38 < JFDkthx> Alternity: i do too.
16:38 < JFDkthx> why are lto7s so expensive
16:38 <@Code_Man65> Since it can't login interactively and can only be used on the machine it is installed on (or machines in the case of a gMSA)
16:38 < ebol4> is cat stevens daddy as hell? discuss
16:41 < Sousapro> so if I'm on windows 10 enterprise with local AD and I want to share personalizations (wallpaper, themes, etc.) between computers for hotdesk users, my only options are Roaming Profiles or paying for Azure AD Premium to get enterprise state roaming?
16:42 < ebol4> you could make a powershell script run on startup that pulls their last known wallpaper from a RESTful API you create and then sets it on whatever PC they just logged into
16:43 < Sousapro> I could
16:43 < JFDkthx> or
16:43 < JFDkthx> you could pay for it
16:43 < ekaj> appliance has options to import and create certificates, but no way to do a CSR
16:44 < Sousapro> JFDkthx: it's frustrating to have to pay for all of Azure AD Premium when I want one feature that used to work with Windows 10 until they took it away lol
16:44 < ebol4> you could also give everyone a designated wallpaper USB drive that they put their favorite wallpaper on, and set it on fire in front of them and tell them to get over it
16:44 < TuxedoJack> Cryptowall restore has 200GB more shit to go, hosted Exchange environment's authentication fails enterprise-wide, and I'm out of blonde roast
16:44 < JFDkthx> ekaj: just fukkin keytool it
16:44 < TuxedoJack> Fan-fucking-tastic way to start a Monday
16:44 < Sousapro> JFDkthx: it's not like I want to give up group policy
16:45 < ekaj> JFDkthx: hm?
16:45 < ekaj> also cranky pissed off r/sysadmin again, the reees are abundant
16:45 < Sousapro> it's a monday
16:45 < JFDkthx> ekaj: what tpye of certificate store is the app using.
16:45 < Sousapro> cranky always stirs the pot weekly
16:46 < Alternity> keystore if you're lucky
16:46 < JFDkthx> ooo drama
16:46 < Sousapro> $contraryOpinionFromSaltySysadmin
16:46 < JFDkthx> This Websense category is filtered: Marijuana.
16:46 < Sousapro> REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
16:46 < JFDkthx> goddammit
16:46 < JFDkthx> it's fucking rsa
16:46 < JFDkthx> not weed central
16:46 < ekaj> JFDkthx: no fkin idea, it's some proprietary shit
16:46 < Sousapro> TuxedoJack: I'd send you some coffee through IRC if I could :/
16:47 < ekaj> It doesn't look like it's possible to import a cert via a CA
16:47 < vinrock> hey whats the go-to 2fa app for an iphone?
16:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> that feeling when the hard drive is too full to download wirdirstat
16:47 < ebol4> i drank one of those starbucks double shot espresso cans yesterday and it didn't do shit
16:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> vinrock: google 2fa prolly
16:47 < ebol4> tasted okay though
16:47 < darkscrypt> ebol4: i'm drinking one of those right now.
16:47 < vinrock> thats kinda what i assumed
16:47 < darkscrypt> ebol4: that, + vyvanse + another mountain dew and i'm tired as hell
16:47 < ebol4> you have a problem
16:48 < TuxedoJack> Sousapro: I still have French roast
16:48 < darkscrypt> ebol4: hmm.. yeah. I have a very high caffeine tolerance.
16:48 < TuxedoJack> Just not blonde
16:48 < darkscrypt> we have vending here where i work with the doubleshots. it's kind of a problem
16:48 < ebol4> a vending machine?
16:48 < ebol4> that makes me angery
16:48 < TuxedoJack> darkscrypt: two pots of black blonde roast a day
16:49 < TuxedoJack> Minimum.
16:49 < JFDkthx> vinrock: ++
16:49 < JFDkthx> s/caffeine/dong
16:49 < JFDkthx> aw
16:49 < JFDkthx> Code_Man65: what do bot
16:50 < JFDkthx> gib layer-eight
16:50 < corn266> How long has the bot been down now? Since Friday or Saturday?
16:51 < ebol4> redstarcomrade: o7
16:51 < redstarcomrade> yo
16:51 < redstarcomrade> whats happening
16:51 < ebol4> we're in irc together at the same time
16:53 < DomLS3> Sousapro: I'm sure you could write a powershell scripts that updates the wallpaper and themes automatically based on AD group memberships when the login
16:54 < ebol4> everyone's background should just be the company logo and a stock photo of several people standing together smiling and looking into the camera
16:54 < DomLS3> ebol4: I'm all for universal settings on all machines but some offices are more laid back
16:55 < ebol4> "laid back" is how we ended up with carly ray jetson
16:56 < JFDkthx> lunch time
16:56 < ebol4> it's no even 11AM
16:56 < corn266> Don't be hating I just set my lunch down too
16:57 < ebol4> what are you gonna do when it's like 4:30
16:57 < ebol4> you'll be so hongry
16:57 < corn266> Snack on some raw almonds
16:57 < itisfood> hi all
16:57 < ebol4> euugughhrghh
16:57 < ebol4> henlo
16:59 < ebol4> what the hell does "longer boats are coming to win us" mean
17:00 < darkscrypt> ebol4: is that an error message?
17:00 < bobbeh> good moinring nerds
17:00 < itisfood> I'm having an issue with Excel 2016, certain xls/xlsx files cause Excel to spike CPU.  doesn't seem to be any pattern or commonality to the files.  I've gone through the recommendations i can find online by googling the symptoms (update client, disable hardware gfx acceleration, etc) but no effect.  anyone seen this before?
17:00 < ebol4> they're hiding the crpyto miners in excel spreadsheets now
17:00 < bobbeh> have you tried using gnu/libreoffice
17:00 < ebol4> god help us
17:00 < itisfood> lol kinda feels that way
17:01 < itisfood> actually yes, libre doesn't seem to have the same issue.  unfortunately, not an option for my users.
17:01 < ekaj> fuck shitty appliances
17:01 < ekaj> one won't even take certs from CAs, another one to delete a CSR you have to log into it and modify like 5 fucking files
17:01 < vavkamil> does anybody know I google DNS is rate limited?
17:01 < Nightcinder> BREAKING: U.S. Supreme Court rules that federal ban on state-sanctioned sports betting is unconstitutional. Decides case in favor of New Jersey. Floodgates now officially open for other states to allow sports betting.
17:01 < Nightcinder> hmmm
17:02 < ebol4> why was sports betting banned, i don't understand
17:02 < Nightcinder> reasons
17:02 < ekaj> someone lost a lot of money
17:02 < ebol4> like as devil advocate, can someone explain
17:02 < ebol4> not even trying to debate
17:03 < Nightcinder> dunno
17:03 < Nightcinder> it's been banned forever
17:04 < corn266> Is horse racing not a sport?
17:04 < ekaj> betting is huge for horse racing i thought
17:05 < ebol4> pretty sure that's the only reason anyone would ever want to watch horses race
17:06 < Casteil> I think there are some loopholes for sports betting (on horse races)
17:07 < Casteil> I've been to churchill downs and there was definitely betting
17:07 < binaryhermit> also, sports betting was legal in Nevada
17:09 < ekaj> you can use the same cert for web ui + ssl interception right?
17:11 < JFDkthx> fucking paper shaker dumped out on my fries
17:11 < JFDkthx> fack
17:11 < JFDkthx> pepper
17:11 < JFDkthx> im retard
17:14 < munsking> Hello, i know a couple people here use PDQ deploy, does anyone have something that will disable user input during install?
17:15 < corn266> should have used tony chachere's instead JFDkthx
17:18 < SynMonger> when I use pdq it's a silent install so there's nothing for a user to interact with
17:20 < munsking> SynMonger: same here, but users tend to not read any kind of message, so if the software updates silently, it closes any running instance automatically... and then they try to start it again, which is bad
17:21 < ebol4> lol they're making rage 2
17:21 < munsking> so i'd like to just send a message saying "software updating... please wait" and then block input till it's done
17:21 < GrandWizardZippy> any cloud experts in here? or rather anyone that works for a cloud company?
17:21 < ebol4> why would they not just start a new IP
17:22 < ebol4> i'm a cloud wizard
17:28 < JollyRgrs> munsking: when I was pushing out Java updates via SCCM, i had this batch script that would pop up stating such... you can make a msgbox pop up... might be better to try a powershell popup as you might be able to control when to close it "automatically"
17:28 < scwizard> "ecommissioned. Please see our guide on building immutable infrastructure with Packer on CI/CD for ideas on implementing these features yourself."
17:28 < JollyRgrs> otherwise, have your script kill msg.exe (i think?) when the process completes
17:29 < scwizard> "The Packer and Artifact Registry features of Atlas will no longer be actively developed or maintained and will be fully decommissioned." :thonking:
17:29 < JollyRgrs> but then it gets messy if the install doesn't fully complete... still got a random msg box on your screen
17:30 < Heresiarch> scwizard: ...are you really surprised?
17:30 < scwizard> Heresiarch: no but i'm disapointed
17:30 < munsking> JollyRgrs: good idea, but instead i might make it in C# and somehow force on top in fullscreen and try to disable input or something like that.
17:30 < scwizard> a CI service for vagrant boxes would be cool if implemented correctly
17:31 < JollyRgrs> or that, too if you wanna get all programmy
17:31 < scwizard> packer pushed should be repurposed into a command that just uploads boxes
17:31 < munsking> JollyRgrs: i'm actually mainly a programmer, just kinda stumbled into being a windows sysadmin :/
17:31 < scwizard> *packer push
17:31 < scwizard> instead of forcing people to do it via curl eww
17:32 < Heresiarch> scwizard: Hashi seems to chase the bleeding edge pretty heavily. That largely obviates packer and an artifact registry (which is probably obviated by artifactory/OS repos anyway).
17:32 < scwizard> i don't see how packer is kill
17:32 < scwizard> it builds amis man
17:32 < scwizard> if you're using not docker images for something it makes sense to use packer
17:33 < scwizard> altho packer is json only which is gross
17:33 < scwizard> how hard can it be to add yaml support to a program written in Go come on
17:33 < ebol4> why use yaml
17:33 < scwizard> yaml is easier to read/write than json
17:33 < scwizard> supports comments for instnace
17:33 < Heresiarch> scwizard: right. But containerization is the FotD. AMIs are so passe! More seriously, there's other tools in the space that make packer kinda unnecessary - unless you're just obsessed with Hashi tooling.
17:34 < scwizard> Heresiarch: what's the best tool for building amis right now?
17:34 < Heresiarch> scwizard: no idea what the "best" is, but I'd stick with cloud-init.
17:34 < scwizard> (currently not building an ami, building a vagrant box, hence packer, but curious)
17:35 < Heresiarch> building AMIs < building bootstrap process that can use base OS/vendor AMIs.
17:35 < aleph-> scwizard: Surprised there isn't a CI service for vagrant boxes.
17:35 < scwizard> building amis is 100% necessary if you use autoscaling groups tho
17:35 < scwizard> aleph-: hashi was building one but they killed it
17:35 < scwizard> that's what started this whole convo
17:36 < scwizard> "The Packer and Artifact Registry features of Atlas will no longer be actively developed or maintained and will be fully decommissioned."
17:36 < aleph-> Ahhhh. Oh well.
17:36 < giant_it_burrit> tell hunterkll hes a butthole when he appears
17:36 < Heresiarch> scwizard: you can still do so. Hell, you can still use packer to do it - it just won't get integrated into Atlas.
17:39 < Heresiarch> bbiab, lunch
17:43 < aleph-> Sup giant_it_burrit
17:48 < dragonfleas> is it possible to active directory integrate quickbooks enterprise edition?
17:49 < dragonfleas> I've never worked with enterprise before, only SMB
17:49 <@Code_Man65> Ah, SMB how I don't miss you.
17:49 < hxcsp> i recall seeing some sort of AD integration for QB somewhere.  not sure of the versions though
17:49 < mrghostman> ^
17:50 < hxcsp> Code_Man65: so you prefer great plains then? you monster
17:50 < mrghostman> hated running into QB doing SMB side work
17:50 < hxcsp> all accounting software is the devil
17:50 < darkscrypt> ^
17:50 <@Code_Man65> No hxcsp, I just don't miss working in the SMB space at all
17:50 < darkscrypt> i have exp with both great plains and qb. hated both
17:51 < hxcsp> but where SMB you deal with Quickbooks, you deal with GP in the Enterprise, so its the same kind of torture
17:51 < hxcsp> thats what i was getting at, they both suck
17:51 <@Code_Man65> I have jack shit to do with ERP
17:51 <@Code_Man65> That's a dedicated team
17:53 < ThatOneRoadie> For those of you who missed it last night at 2 AM:
17:53 < ThatOneRoadie> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAD9Y74H8298 $200 for 1TB NVMe
17:55 < deww> nice
17:55 < ihre> any1 here doing network policies on k8s with calico? i wonder if its possible to allow label based access to a pod with more than 1 port: pod has 80 and 8080, pod x can access 80, pod y can access 8080
17:57 < AnimalFarmPig> Ahhh... yes, the new SSD from Samsumg
17:57 < AnimalFarmPig> I wonder if it's compatible with Gigibyte motherboards...
17:58 < Sousapro> ThatOneRoadie: damn
17:58 < Sousapro> ThatOneRoadie: $200?
17:59 < zerocool> hey guys, are centralized print servers a thing? we have like 25+ sites each with print servers, wondering if we should centralize them... if network fails then they loose their printers but generally they will have nothing to print anyway...
17:59 < zerocool> lose*
18:00 < Sousapro> show of hands: who here wishes that all of their printers and print servers would die in a fire?
18:01 < zerocool> if i put both of my hands up i can't type
18:01 < zerocool> so just imagine
18:06 < AnimalFarmPig> a world without printers? That would be like heaven
18:07 < admiralspark> .seen MillerBOSS
18:07 < admiralspark> aww l8 ain't here
18:07 < Sousapro> so why doesn't anyone solve printers?
18:08 < SOLxCrono> i have a solution
18:08 < admiralspark> Sousapro: they already did. It's called Email and Fileservers
18:08 < Sousapro> like, printing feels like NT 4.0 constantly
18:08 < SOLxCrono> destroy them all
18:08 < ihre> they have solved printers
18:08 < ihre> in office space
18:08 < SOLxCrono> ^
18:08 < ihre> its a nice documentary
18:08 < ebol4> mods timed out post politics
18:08 < Sousapro> admiralspark: please send email to all my users informing them of this. they don't listen to me/.
18:08 < AnimalFarmPig> after we get rid of all the printers, let's next get rid of all the dutchmen
18:08 < admiralspark> Sousapro: but then they'd have to read my email!
18:08 < Sousapro> s/dutchmen/macbooks in a 99% windows environment
18:08 < admiralspark> I'll attach a virus, that way they're bound to click it
18:09 < AnimalFarmPig> maybe there's no incentive to solve printers?
18:09 < ihre> AnimalFarmPig: wat, why would you even want to get rid of dutchmen?
18:09 < AnimalFarmPig> like, you might make a good printer, but people will keep buying shit
18:09 < Sousapro> AnimalFarmPig: they're going to be purchased no matter what so you're probably right
18:09 < Sousapro> AnimalFarmPig: ++
18:09 < AnimalFarmPig> ihre: they know what they did
18:09 < Hatter> should I gamble on the shrimp in the cafeteria today?
18:10 < Hatter> I am sometimes prone to tummy aches
18:10 < Heresiarch> printers are also mechanical systems - which are notoriously hard to do reliably (part of the reason why tape libs are so expensive).
18:10 < ihre> AnimalFarmPig: i know no such thing
18:10 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, they also need to work on pretty tight tolerances. Ink pixels are pretty small.
18:11 < AnimalFarmPig> ihre: I'm onto you, dutchy
18:11 < darkscrypt> ThatOneRoadie: that's a really slim form factor there
18:14 < ihre> AnimalFarmPig: im still curious though :p
18:16 < Heresiarch> Business sees IT the way IT sees printers. #showerthought
18:16 < dragonfleas> anybody have any idea why there are RDP disconnect issues on all of our VM's on one host?
18:16 < dragonfleas> do you guys think restarting the host may resolve that?
18:16 < dragonfleas> I've checked bandwidth availability and everything looks good, no big amounts of network being used
18:17 < dragonfleas> but it keeps hitting the "reconnecting attemp 2 out of 20" blah blah
18:17 < dragonfleas> this is the host that serves our terminal services
18:19 < Sousapro> Heresiarch: if I remove all IT services I bet the business will notice the difference (fiscally) a lot faster then if I removed the printers lol
18:19 < Sousapro> s/then/than
18:19 < Sousapro> sorry, brain fart
18:19 < AnimalFarmPig> ihre: I was going to list printers, some other universally reviled piece of technology, and the dutch as things we should eliminate, but I couldn't think of the second one. It was for comedic purposes-- http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ArsonMurderAndJaywalking
18:20 < AnimalFarmPig> ihre: but I couldn't think of anything else as universally reviled as printers or the dutch
18:20 < Heresiarch> AnimalFarmPig: developers. ;)
18:21 < AnimalFarmPig> Heresiarch: damn, that would be been good
18:21 < Heresiarch> Sousapro: that's true, but I'd say a better comparison would be maintaining services/printers.
18:21 < AnimalFarmPig> dragonfleas: did you read about the RDP security fix?
18:22 < Sousapro> dragonfleas: is it fully patched? (april 2018+)
18:24 < zerocool> so wait is it an okay idea to centralize printers to one server, we have maybe 10 per site, 30 sites or something like that
18:24 < Heresiarch> zerocool: yes.
18:24 < Heresiarch> wait. Centralize to one? No.
18:24 < Heresiarch> Centralize to 1/2 print servers per site? Yes.
18:25 < AnimalFarmPig> imagine a user wanting to print a 100 MB file. File goes over the wire to single central server, printer primitives then go back down the wire to the printer at the user's site.
18:25 < AnimalFarmPig> seems like a recipe for problems
18:26 < AnimalFarmPig> probably better to have print servers on site
18:26 < Heresiarch> ^
18:26 < dragonfleas> I guess we had so many updates available that the servers needed multiple restarts to finish patching
18:26 < dragonfleas> sigh
18:27 < zerocool> okay... well, anyone here use cups vs windows print server?
18:27 < Heresiarch> used to. What's your question?
18:28 < zerocool> question is we have a lot of sites that are getting linux fileservers vs windows, but in my experience 1/2 of our printers don't have drivers compatible with cups
18:29 < Heresiarch> zerocool: do these printers require usage of special features from the linux clients (e.g. duplex printing, special color requirements, tray specificity)?
18:29 < Sousapro> zerocool: I'd let a windows SMB server pull double duty at both sites if all of your servers are stable
18:29 < zerocool> Heresiarch: no, we serve for windows clients only...
18:30 < Heresiarch> zerocool: then cups is irrelevant anyway. Use samba or put print services on a DC that's local to the site (you do have at least one DC at each site, don't you)?
18:30 < grumplestiltzkin> I have used CUPS for years - it works great, except the part where no matter what machine, what driver, or what printer, it cuts off a few mm of the left side
18:30 < Heresiarch> it is, but if you're only serving windows clients...
18:30 < grumplestiltzkin> usually like a half a character
18:31 < GreyKite> grumplestiltzkin: feature, not a bug, you didn't want those mm anyway
18:31 < Sousapro> think of the ink savings
18:31 < GrandWizardZippy> wouldnt happen to have any lawyers in technology in here would we?
18:32 < Sousapro> LMAO my cousins want me to get into that
18:32 < Sousapro> i'm like F no
18:32 < AnimalFarmPig> You could always just get a single LaserJet 4+ with a JetDirect card for each site and then use the built-in PCL drivers on the client machines :)
18:32 < Heresiarch> s/PCL/PS/
18:32 < GrandWizardZippy> i have a case with dropbox right now and i need a second opinion on something in my discovery
18:32 < AnimalFarmPig> if you LJ4 supports PS, yeah
18:33 < Heresiarch> AnimalFarmPig: I have yet to find one that doesn't.
18:34 < ThatOneRoadie> Heresiarch: Someone should invent a solid state printer
18:34 < ThatOneRoadie> oh wait, they have, shit
18:34 < ThatOneRoadie> thermal printers
18:34 < grumplestiltzkin> ThatOneRoadie: receipt prin.  yeah
18:35 < ThatOneRoadie> I wonder how much a 8.5x11 thermal printer is
18:35 < ThatOneRoadie> actually fuck the printer
18:35 < ThatOneRoadie> how much is a roll of 8.5 wide thermal paper
18:35 < ThatOneRoadie> lmao
18:35 < grumplestiltzkin> then you have to make a copy, so it doesn't all turn black after a month or whatever
18:35 < gnupluslinux> do they make 8.5" thermal paper?
18:35 < JFDkthx> great my boss is in my office
18:35 < JFDkthx> now i have to act like im working
18:36 < deww> gnupluslinux: they make rolls of them. old style fax machines
18:38 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, I had a fax machine that took thermal paper in the early 2000's
18:38 < vinrock> anyone know of a speed test site for gigabit testing
18:38 < vinrock> speedtest.net these servers are all over the place
18:40 < gnupluslinux> deww, oh yeah, been so long i forgot those were a thing. never had to support em
18:40 < CheckYourSix> Ugh today needs to go faster.
18:41 <@Code_Man65> Try https://sourceforge.net/speedtest/ vinrock
18:41 < vinrock> cool thanks
18:43 < JFDkthx> vinrock: dont use fucking fast.com
18:43 < vinrock> actually the quickest one so far is the xfinity speed test
18:43 < vinrock> alot of em seemed to max out at like 300 or so
18:43 < vinrock> then others were maxing out at like 550
18:43 < vinrock> xfinity just got me to 700
18:44 < JFDkthx> fast.com always tells me i have like a 50 connection
18:44 < JFDkthx> its trash
18:44 < genr8_> you need the right backbone on your ISP
18:44 < JFDkthx> fuck u netflix
18:44 < vinrock> i just got gigabit fios
18:44 < genr8_> TLDR: its only gigabit on speedtest ;p
18:44 < JFDkthx> ye
18:44 < vinrock> speedtest none of the servers seem to go beyond ~550
18:44 < JFDkthx> and steam
18:44 < genr8_> steam isnt very fast
18:45 < vinrock> i just assumed there would be like gigabit specific speed test sites
18:45 < JFDkthx> u lyin
18:45 < JFDkthx> i get 90mb/s pretty regularly
18:45 < genr8_> I dont max my connect out on steam
18:45 < genr8_> 80-90 seems to be the max for that
18:45 < AnimalFarmPig> find a friend who also has a gigabit connection and transfer a file between you
18:45 < Heresiarch> vinrock: not really. Ookla (speedtest.net) is probably closest, b/c they tend to have the most presence within edge networks.
18:45 < corn266> genr8_: I'm getting bottle necked by my HDD r/w speeds
18:46 < JFDkthx> AnimalFarmPig: only works if it's sync gig/gig
18:46 < AnimalFarmPig> you could try netflix's speedtest competitor-- fast.com
18:46 < Sousapro> fast.com works pretty well
18:46 < genr8_> buffer to SSD before you copy-on-write to HDD
18:46 < JFDkthx> fast is shit
18:46 < AnimalFarmPig> JFDkthx: oh, right, they may non-symmetric ones too, didn't think about those
18:46 < JFDkthx> dont lie
18:46 < Sousapro> it's really a test to see if you can netflix though
18:46 < vinrock> i guess i can be nice now and ease up on throttling users
18:46 < JFDkthx> vinrock: go find a newsgroup for illegal BDs
18:46 < JFDkthx> and download from there
18:47 < JFDkthx> you'll max your connection $100% gayrunteed
18:47 < AnimalFarmPig> oh, yeah, or download a popular linux iso via bittorrent
18:47 < JFDkthx> or the boat sex episode of GoT
18:47 < genr8_> none of these things are surefire ways
18:48 < genr8_> even the find a gigabit friend  one
18:48 < admiralspark> genr8_: download a hundred torrents simultaneously?
18:48 < AnimalFarmPig> right, their router could be a bottleneck
18:48 < genr8_> for me routing between two gigabit friends in two diff states is horrible
18:48 < AnimalFarmPig> or that
18:49 < JFDkthx> so what you're  saying it, his speed is dependant many different circumstances.
18:49 < JFDkthx> is*
18:49 < JFDkthx> who knew
18:49 < genr8_> yeah, you're not gonna get a full picture of the realistic speed for a couple of weeks or days of actually using it
18:50 < vinrock> oh snap thats right
18:50 < vinrock> i can torrent something
18:50 < JFDkthx> haha
18:50 < AnimalFarmPig> but downloading a bunch of things at once and checking aggregate speed is probably a good way to do it
18:50 < JFDkthx> something really popular
18:50 < genr8_> gigabit for ISPs just means "you're not capped here. but you're still limited by that whole mess over there"
18:50 < Casteil> man
18:50 < AnimalFarmPig> and torrent essentially allows that
18:50 < Casteil> my 'new' software engineer has been with us a year already
18:51 < Casteil> to bossman: "Hey, should we do a review for X? can't believe he's been with us a year already.. my 2yr mark is also coming up next week too" [HINT HINT]
18:51 < TuxedoJack> Web host terminates client's hosting in fucking March
18:51 < TuxedoJack> Shuts it off this morning
18:51 < TuxedoJack> DOESN'T FUCKING TELL US
18:52 < genr8_> I made the mistake of clicking my "Deactivate DigitalOcean account" button while drunk
18:52 < Heresiarch> TuxedoJack: client's (or whoever's supposed to be migrating them off) fault.
18:52 < genr8_> and now the account is just gone and i gotta see what i can do
18:53 < genr8_> that button is no joke...
18:53 < estranger> Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood morning everyone!
18:53 < estranger> oh wait its afternoon
18:53 < estranger> Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon everyone!
18:53 < Sousapro> go home estranger, you're still drunk
18:53 < ebol4> TuxedoJack: time for another pot of black blonde roast
18:53 < estranger> im just high on life!
18:54 < estranger> and maybe some weed
18:54 <@mistiry> adn you didnt share?
18:54 <@mistiry> SHAME
18:54 < Heresiarch> estranger: thus proving the statement that SEs are delinquents. ;)
18:55 < estranger> Heresiarch, I work for a california startup.. the rules are basically "try not to get high on the job"
18:56 < Heresiarch> estranger: statement stands. :D
18:56 < onenerdyguy> so how we all doing today
18:57 < estranger> lol, i also blame being a new father.. definitely zaps some brain power
18:59 < grumplestiltzkin> well shit.   I hadn't heard of this site before.  Apparently they auction off movie set/prop items. I never saw the warcraft movie, but you can bid on like full armor sets   this is neat  - https://us.propstoreauction.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/129/
18:59 < vinrock> fast.com seems to actually work gud
18:59 < vinrock> 893mbps at the firewall
18:59 < onenerdyguy> vinrock, as long as you don't have someone like..destroying it by traffic shaping
18:59 < vinrock> oh i do to everyone except myself
19:00 < vinrock> i have my own FULL THROTTLE policies
19:00 < AnimalFarmPig> I'm doing a clone of Jules's gun in Pulp Fiction
19:00 < onenerdyguy> sick bastard. i love it
19:00 < tsarbomba> spending three hours trying to verify your fancy new gigabit connection speeds is truly peak autism in 2018
19:00 < AnimalFarmPig> I already have the pistol, just need to do a little detail work on it, order some pearl grips. I've also got a "Bad Motherfucker" wallet to go with it :)
19:00 < vinrock> tsarbomba im totally nerding the f out right now
19:01 < tsarbomba> YES HAVE SOME
19:01  * tsarbomba flips out and destroys a cable modem
19:01 < Heresiarch> tsarbomba: careful with that joke. It's an antique.
19:01 <@Code_Man65> Heresiarch:  Does it belong in a museum?
19:01 < Heresiarch> Code_Man65: so does tsarbomba, apparently.
19:02 < onenerdyguy> Code_Man65, only if Indy says so
19:02 < grumplestiltzkin> AnimalFarmPig: I don't remember, was it a 1911?
19:02 < AnimalFarmPig> grumplestiltzkin: Star Model B
19:02 < AnimalFarmPig> which looks like 1911, but is different
19:02 < AnimalFarmPig> chrome with pearl grips
19:02 < grumplestiltzkin> you don't see stars too often.  nice
19:02 < Hatter> AnimalFarmPig: That's what Samuel L. Jackson's wallet said in the film Pulp Fiction
19:03 < tsarbomba> hawaii is going to be consumed
19:03 < tsarbomba> it's not a matter of if, but how long
19:03 < mrghostman> actually it is going to grow
19:03 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, I have a small Star collection. A Model BM, Model B Super, Model 31PK, Firestar Plus, and since Friday a chrome plated Model BS
19:03 < mrghostman> it is made from volcanic rock to begin with
19:03 < AnimalFarmPig> Hatter: yeah, I got it to go with my Samuel L. Jackson pistol
19:04 < tsarbomba> yes, and the organic material atop that bedrock took hundreds of thousands of years to reach the state it has
19:08 < AnimalFarmPig> nice part of collecting Star/Spanish (haven't started an Astra collection... yet) pistols is that they're inexpensive and high quality
19:11 < dragonfleas> fucking servers went haywire
19:11 < dragonfleas> terminal services crashed
19:11 < dragonfleas> had to restore a VM from backup because it failed
19:11 < JFDkthx> dragonfleas: stop creating job security for yourself.
19:11 < dragonfleas> i guess there were pending updates on the host
19:12 < dragonfleas> fucking mondays boys
19:12 < dragonfleas> read-only mondays
19:12 < onenerdyguy> Anyone ever use Ovirt before?
19:12 < giant_it_burrit> anyone have a recommened reading list to plan for sccm
19:12 < ekaj> every day is read only when you're an auditor
19:12 < dragonfleas> ekaj, good thing I'm not that
19:12 < ekaj> same
19:12 < TuxedoJack> Great
19:12 < TuxedoJack> I have to make a fucking zone file from scratch.
19:13 < TuxedoJack> My day just gets better and better
19:13 < JFDkthx> could be worse
19:13 < TuxedoJack> Don't even have the fucking registrar creds
19:13 < ekaj> better get in the zone
19:13 < JFDkthx> could have to make TWO ZONE FILES
19:13 < TuxedoJack> The old IT fucker didn't give them to us when he left
19:13 < ekaj> isn't that illegal
19:13 < JFDkthx> looks like you aint doing it then
19:13 < TuxedoJack> Our fucking onboarding team didn't get them
19:13 < JFDkthx> ekaj: only if out of malice.
19:14 < AnimalFarmPig> get in the zone! autozone!
19:14 < ekaj> well at this point in time it could be considered malice lol
19:14 < JFDkthx> DUN DUN
19:14 <@Code_Man65> Aren't the DNS servers up and running?
19:14 < JFDkthx> ekaj: not really.
19:14 < ekaj> it's starting to hinder production
19:14 <@Code_Man65> If so, just do a zone transfer to new DNS servers?
19:14 < McDonaldsWiFi> JFDkthx: why r u mean
19:14 < JFDkthx> it could have been something he forgot to do
19:14 < ekaj> true
19:14 < TuxedoJack> Code_Man65: nope, the fucking old provider deleted it
19:14 <@Code_Man65> But personally, give me AD DNS.  So much easier to manage.
19:15 < JFDkthx> how much shit do you manage during a month
19:15 < TuxedoJack> Because they sent notification in February to an unmanaged mailbox that they were terminating service
19:15 < JFDkthx> if you were let go or retired would you remember all of it.
19:15 < TuxedoJack> And they flipped it off this morning
19:15 <@Code_Man65> So ask the provider for a backup copy?
19:15 < TuxedoJack> They don't _have_ one
19:15 < giant_it_burrit> Code_Man65: do you have a goto10 line for determining if sccm is a fit
19:15 < TuxedoJack> I already did
19:15 < Heresiarch> oops.
19:15 < ekaj> I wouldn't, because I keep all my passwords documented
19:16 <@Code_Man65> giant_it_burrit:  For me personally?  If there are more than 50 desktops I consider it worth it.
19:16 < TuxedoJack> I'm waiting on the fucking webdevs to get us access to the fucking registrar account so we can get DNS flipped over to their servers
19:16 < giant_it_burrit> Code_Man65: ever use it to manage osx/linux
19:16 <@cryptic1> afternoon
19:16 <@Code_Man65> Nope, but there are some good products to hook it into OS X
19:16 < JFDkthx> cryptic1: get back to work
19:16 <@Code_Man65> As for linux, isn't worth it IMO
19:17 < giant_it_burrit> why is that?
19:17 <@Code_Man65> Because the dedicated linux tools handle the job better (spacewalk/satellite)
19:17 < JFDkthx> if ur doin linux just buy a single smart managed rhel license and use satellite server for centos
19:17 < JFDkthx> rhel sat server is free now
19:17 < Heresiarch> giant_it_burrit: there's so many better tools to manage OSX/linux (unless you're deranged like hunterkll)
19:17 < JFDkthx> only have to pay for the red hat smart managed licenses.
19:17 < ekaj> sat server is still paid I thought, spacewalk is free
19:18 < JFDkthx> ekaj: nope
19:18 < ekaj> decent
19:18 < ekaj> what's a server license now like 300 a yr?
19:18 < JFDkthx> they changed it to better support small air gapped networks
19:18 < giant_it_burrit> Heresiarch: im mad at him. he threw this nice sccm add on that worked and now its been eol'ed
19:18 < giant_it_burrit> Code_Man65: for ubuntu?
19:18 <@Code_Man65> When did they announce that JFDkthx?
19:18 < giant_it_burrit> i have maybe 3/4 rhel
19:19 <@Code_Man65> giant_it_burrit:  Spacewalk will handle Ubuntu
19:19 < JFDkthx> Code_Man65: was working with two red hat guys last week, that told us of the change in the scheme
19:19 < Heresiarch> giant_it_burrit: if you're looking for patching, landscape/spacewalk will do. But for actual management, pick up Ansible/Puppet/Salt.
19:19 <@Code_Man65> Did they do a press release yet for it JFDkthx?
19:19 < JFDkthx> i doubt it
19:19 < giant_it_burrit> Heresiarch: i have ansible already
19:20 < JFDkthx> want me to see if i can email them for it?
19:20 < chernobylchild69> hey guys good morning
19:20 < gnupluslinux> morn
19:20 < JFDkthx> hi
19:20 < Heresiarch> giant_it_burrit: then you're halfway there anyway. All you need now is the DSC modules, and you can save the money you'd use on sccm. ;)
19:20 < JFDkthx> McDonaldsWiFi: also, i'm not mean.
19:21 < giant_it_burrit> Heresiarch: what money id use ;;p;p;p;
19:21 < Heresiarch> hah! Touche.
19:21 < giant_it_burrit> is there a goto10 line for windows and ansible
19:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> Hatter do you think JFDkthx is mean?
19:21 < JFDkthx> rosebud;!$;!$;!$;!$;!$
19:21 < giant_it_burrit> ive never touched it
19:21 <@Code_Man65> JFDkthx:  Yeah, because that would be useful to me here
19:21 < JFDkthx> Code_Man65: kk, i'll fire something off.
19:22 < Hatter> McDonaldsWiFi: just a bit slow
19:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> lolol
19:23 < ekaj> if you have smart card authentication box checked in AD, you can't use your password for LDAP connected appliances correct? it will only accept smart cards?
19:25 < MillerBOSS> ekaj 👉 You are a smart card
19:26 < ekaj> i wish
19:27 <@Code_Man65> giant_it_burrit:  Ansible and windows isn't mature.  What we are doing is splitting.  We are using ansible (with tower) for *nix and are going to use DSC for Windows (most likely with the azure automation pull server)
19:28 < Heresiarch> Code_Man65: DSC is supported with ansible 2.5. :)
19:28 <@Code_Man65> Heresiarch:  Yeah, I know.  But it's bare bones.
19:28 < Heresiarch> blast.
19:29 <@Code_Man65> Honestly the azure automation dsc pull server is the way to go
19:29 <@Code_Man65> Great reporting, handles onboarding for you
19:29 < Heresiarch> for stuff in Azure, I could see it. But for local?
19:29 <@Code_Man65> It isn't for just stuff in azure
19:29 <@Code_Man65> It handles on-prem and off
19:30 <@Code_Man65> You just don't have to PAY for stuff that is already in azure.
19:30 < giant_it_burrit> Code_Man65: i wish i could just steal you for a week to help me get sccm going the right way
19:30 < MillerBOSS> https://www.techmeme.com/180514/p1#a180514p1
19:30 < MillerBOSS> Researchers warn about critical flaws in PGP and S/MIME that can reveal the plaintext of encrypted emails, recommend uninstalling those tools from email clients
19:30 < giant_it_burrit> because hunterkll is strange
19:30 < gnupluslinux> why use ansible for windows instead of a windows tool? i always thought ansible was like the linux answer to sccm or mdt and ad or something isnt it
19:30 <@Code_Man65> Sorry, I'm not for sale
19:30 < Heresiarch> Code_Man65: vpn/peering? I'm sure you wouldn't want to expose a DSC pull server over the public net...
19:30 < gnupluslinux> Code_Man65, thats now what you said last night
19:30 < giant_it_burrit> Code_Man65: ill offer
19:30 < giant_it_burrit> tree fiddy
19:30 <@Code_Man65> gnupluslinux:  Some companies want to use one tool for everything.
19:30 < MillerBOSS> Lmao https://twitter.com/codelancer/status/995992302530322432
19:31 < JollyRgrs> Code_Man65: yeah, they call him the CEO
19:31 <@Code_Man65> Heresiarch:  It tied to automation account in your azure AD.  Good luck hitting it publicly without the information required.
19:31 < gnupluslinux> how does ansible even work on windows? powershell remote sessions?
19:31 <@Code_Man65> gnupluslinux:  WinRM
19:31 < Heresiarch> Code_Man65: ahh. Nice :)
19:31 <@Code_Man65> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/automation/automation-dsc-onboarding
19:32 < giant_it_burrit> Code_Man65: does that mean id have to learn to azure
19:32 < Heresiarch> gnupluslinux: there's also a benefit to having a single/well-integrated codebase to manage both linux and windows. The various CM vendors are moving toward this faster than Microsoft is likely to ever do.
19:33 <@Code_Man65> giant_it_burrit:  Not really.
19:33 <@Code_Man65> There is a reason MS is investing pretty heavily in DSC.
19:33 < gnupluslinux> Heresiarch, oh i see the use case and idea for it, im all for single repo for config (even if it poses a security risk), just didn't think it was quite there yet
19:34 <@Code_Man65> I'm a big fan of using the right solution for the problem you are trying to solve.  Don't try to force a square peg in a round hole.
19:35 < Heresiarch> Code_Man65: but DSC was never meant to be an encompassing solution in and of itself. It was always intended as a sort of middleware/interface that could be used by other programs.
19:35 < giant_it_burrit> Code_Man65: any feelings +/- about paralells for mac mgmt
19:35 < ebol4> DSC?
19:35 <@Code_Man65> Correct, which is what the pull server piece is for
19:35 <@Code_Man65> giant_it_burrit:  Not used it
19:36 < MillerBOSS> Desired State Configuration
19:36 <@Code_Man65> But their SCCM plugin is pretty legit from what I've seen
19:36 <@Code_Man65> The problem you have to solve (presently) with DSC is ConfigurationData at scale
19:36 < gnupluslinux> i know im gonna hate the answer but do people actually deploy and manage macs?
19:36 < MillerBOSS> Yeah
19:36 < ebol4> gnupluslinux: my old school district used macs almost exclusively
19:37 <@Code_Man65> What I'm doing is I'm storing that info in a SQL DB and then retrieving it in the proper format (a hashtable of an array of hashtables) to be usable for DSC.
19:37 < MillerBOSS> gnupluslinux 👉 https://macadmins.herokuapp.com/ See all shit that goes on here
19:37 <@killdash9> most of our devs use Mac...to run Windows VMs in. I wish I was kidding.
19:37 <@Code_Man65> Yes, companies actually deploy and manage macs
19:37 < gnupluslinux> school districts were a special case i fgured since i think apple had some edu program for them no?
19:37 < gnupluslinux> killdash9, thanks for reminding me of that trend
19:38 < ebol4> is DSC just puppet
19:38 <@Code_Man65> Not at all ebol4
19:38 < JollyRgrs> gnupluslinux: apple gave our county "a free computer in every classroom"... but a contract for the next 10 yrs, they could only put apple computers in classrooms
19:38 < gnupluslinux> apparently the googles did/does mac deploys and mgmt
19:38 < Heresiarch> Code_Man65: that makes sense, up to a point. But it's basically replacing what a normal CM would have. The main thing limiting the latter tools are just their support for DSC (for now).
19:38 < AnimalFarmPig> to be fair, the Mac window manager is pretty shit
19:38 < gnupluslinux> JollyRgrs, yeah that was for ours too from what i could tell.
19:38 <@Code_Man65> Google gives you a choice of Mac, Windows, or Linux for your system
19:38 < gnupluslinux> nothing but macs and apple products errwhere
19:39 <@Code_Man65> Heresiarch:  Yeah, MS has said that something is coming to azure for configdata at scale
19:39 <@Code_Man65> Just no details yet
19:39 < gnupluslinux> killdash9, could you guys not dual boot windows? or would that break contract
19:39 < MillerBOSS> AnimalFarmPig 👉 Do you mean WindowServer?
19:39 < JollyRgrs> gnupluslinux: why would they dual boot windows?
19:40 < AnimalFarmPig> MillerBOSS: ?
19:40 < JollyRgrs> then they couldn't run Mac OS
19:40 < MillerBOSS> AnimalFarmPig 👉 Regarding 12:38:26 PM  AnimalFarmPig	to be fair, the Mac window manager is pretty shit
19:40 < ebol4> dsc sure seems like puppet
19:40 <@killdash9> "but I need MacOS for...things!"
19:40 < gnupluslinux> JollyRgrs, ?
19:40 < JollyRgrs> gnupluslinux: and by that i mean, they couldn't run it wihle trying to do real work
19:40 < JollyRgrs> they don't want to reboot just to play the mac sliding puzzle game
19:40 < JollyRgrs> is that still in the menu?
19:40 < JollyRgrs> lol
19:41 < JollyRgrs> i think it went away with OS X?
19:41 < Heresiarch> Code_Man65: maybe MS really is going to provide the bits of a CM for Windows - just hooked into Azure.
19:41 <@killdash9> they just love iTunes...like everyone else
19:41 < AnimalFarmPig> MillerBOSS: from what I understand the server itself is built on DisplayPDF, an evolution of DisplayPS from NeXT. That seems pretty solid. I'm talking about the window management capabilities and the feel of the desktop environment in general.
19:41 <@Code_Man65> Heresiarch:  I'm 99% certain they are
19:41 < giant_it_burrit> i always ask my mac guys what is it that they need from osx that they cant get in windows
19:41 < giant_it_burrit> need not want
19:41 < AnimalFarmPig> MillerBOSS: probably the least useful desktop environment of any of the major ones
19:41 <@killdash9> giant_it_burrit: "it's just...easier"
19:41 < giant_it_burrit> other than my graphic designer not one person could name a thing
19:41 < JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: and what did they name?
19:42 <@Code_Man65> The secret to using OS X is apple+space to bring up spotlight.
19:42 < giant_it_burrit> some programs like sketch
19:42 < giant_it_burrit> that was about it
19:42 < JollyRgrs> photoshop is now also on winderz, and with video cards, you can render stuff as well on widnows
19:42 < Heresiarch> Code_Man65: it does make sense. The vast majority of mainly-Windows shops are unlikely to invest in something like Chef/Puppet, but they might jump on something hosted+provided by MS.
19:42 <@Code_Man65> CUDA offload is a thing
19:42 < JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: no windows equiv of whatever sketch is?
19:42 < gnupluslinux> giant_it_burrit, tbf the mac/apple touchpad controls are slick as hell
19:42 < mrghostman> ^
19:42 < MillerBOSS> I thought you are talking about the process named WindowServer that is in charge of everything on the display(s)
19:42 < giant_it_burrit> my asus netbook had the multitouch cotnrols
19:43 < JollyRgrs> i can't stand the macbook touchpads
19:43 < MillerBOSS> AnimalFarmPig 👉 ^
19:43 < MillerBOSS> https://developer.apple.com/library/content/technotes/tn2083/_index.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/DTS10003794-CH1-SUBSECTION14
19:43 < AnimalFarmPig> MillerBOSS: oh, no, I'm talking about the design of the user interface
19:43 < gnupluslinux> i like the default multitouch controls on map laptops
19:43 < MillerBOSS> Oh design, OK. :)
19:43 < gnupluslinux> the terminal was also similar enough if you were coming from a linux background
19:43 <@killdash9> JollyRgrs: you just don't get it, man...they are so well designed. They look so good
19:43 < gnupluslinux> other than that though... i hated em
19:44 <@Code_Man65> Windows is moving (pretty quickly for such a huge product) towards declaritive configuration being the preferred approach.
19:44 <@Code_Man65> Which is something A LOT of Windows admins cannot wrap their heads around
19:44 < JollyRgrs> killdash9: lol, spoken like a the closet mac lover you used to be. glad you came out :P
19:44 < gnupluslinux> but mah pointy clicky Code_Man65 !
19:44 < giant_it_burrit> Code_Man65: you mean dsc? right?
19:44 <@Code_Man65> Yes giant_it_burrit
19:44 < JollyRgrs> declaritive configuration isn't much different than GPOs, just easier to handle/administer
19:45 < giant_it_burrit> got a quick start guide for me?
19:45 <@Code_Man65> Eh, the way they work is pretty different JollyRgrs
19:45 <@Code_Man65> GPO is you telling the machine what to do, declarative is telling the machine what it should look like when done and letting the machine do the work.
19:46 < Heresiarch> What'll be really hilarious is when they start existing tools (e.g. SCCM) to DSC in the backend.
19:46 <@Code_Man65> Ugh, SCCM baselines
19:46 <@Code_Man65> So problematic
19:48 < ebol4> who wrote this powershell.org article and why are they talking to me like i'm a 16 year old skateboarder
19:48 < gnupluslinux> cause its totally awesome dude bro man
19:48 <@Code_Man65> ebol4:  Link it
19:48 < MillerBOSS> Because you have a World Industries skateboard with those fly trucks
19:48 < JFDkthx> rad!
19:48 < ebol4> https://powershell.org/2014/05/14/why-puppet-vs-dsc-isnt-even-a-thing/
19:48 <@Code_Man65> Don Jones
19:49 <@Code_Man65> He's pretty awesome
19:49 < ebol4> he sounds like someone born in the 50s
19:49 <@Code_Man65> Nah, he just has a very specific way of writing
19:49 <@Code_Man65> I've actually met him at Ignite
19:49 <@Code_Man65> Great guy to bounce ideas off of
19:50 < JFDkthx> "I think the folks behind Puppet/Chef/etc totally "get" all this. "
19:51 < JFDkthx> really likes the word folks
19:51 <@Code_Man65> He's the author of "Learn Powershell in a month of lunches"
19:51 < JFDkthx> back in 2014 im sure was just some folks tho
19:51 < giant_it_burrit> i have that on my desk atm
19:52 < JFDkthx> god im ready to go home.
19:52 < CheckYourSix> Jesus fuck Monday needs to end
19:53 < ebol4> just go home
19:53 < ebol4> if you aren't having a good day after 15 minutes you're legallly allowed to leave
19:53 < CheckYourSix> 2 hours to go for me
19:53 < MillerBOSS> Ha ha ebol4
19:53 < ebol4> i've still got like 3 hours
19:54 < MillerBOSS> s/allowed to leave/demanded to leave without pay
19:54 < giant_it_burrit> Code_Man65:  did you do the credssp rdp patch thing
19:54 <@Code_Man65> Yeah, clients patched last week along with non-prod servers
19:54 <@Code_Man65> Prod servers patch this week
19:54 < CheckYourSix> Mondays are just super busy. I'll get home, do a few things, then go to the fire house for training for like 2-3 hours. Then I'll be exhausted and going to bed soon after. I can't stand when that happens
19:55 < giant_it_burrit> which way did you set the policy
19:55 < giant_it_burrit> mitigated?
19:55 <@Code_Man65> Yeah, which is the default
19:56 <@Code_Man65> You only set it if you want to not mitigate it
19:56 < JFDkthx> ebol4: im leaving at 3
19:57 < JFDkthx> so one hour left DL
19:57 < giant_it_burrit> does that mean i just patch like normal and it will set that way?
19:57 < JFDkthx> D:
19:57 < ebol4> clients can't connect to unpatched hosts once they are patched iirc
19:57 < ebol4> unless you make yourself vulnerable again with GPO
19:57 < TuxedoJack> Well-meaning tier 2 installs pfBlockerNG on the client's pfSense and puts in rules to block all but NA IPs
19:58 < TuxedoJack> Forgets that the client has LACNIC offices
19:58 < ebol4> the heck is lacnic
19:58 < gnupluslinux> LACNIC?
19:58 < TuxedoJack> Latin America / Central America
19:58 < gnupluslinux> how does that come out to LACNIC lol
19:58 <@Code_Man65> Yes giant_it_burrit
19:58 < TuxedoJack> I have no fucking idea
19:58 < gnupluslinux> latin america and nicaragua lol
19:59 < TuxedoJack> Latin America and Caribbean Network Information Centre
19:59 < giant_it_burrit> i just call it hookerville
19:59 < TuxedoJack> According to Google
19:59 < gnupluslinux> interesting
19:59 < DomLS3> pfsense
19:59 < giant_it_burrit> or in ad, twh
19:59 < giant_it_burrit> tijuana whore house
20:00 < tsarbomba> oh look dev fucked up again and they're trying to push it on me to fix
20:01 < ebol4> server don broke
20:01 < tsarbomba> i wasn't expecting to have to hold two come-to-jesus meetings in a month
20:01 < MillerBOSS> So Royal TS I am not finding a way to deploy the actual plugins. Hmm
20:01 < tsarbomba> (((DEVELOPERS)))
20:01 < giant_it_burrit> what plugins
20:02 < MillerBOSS> These plugins https://royaltsx-v4.royalapplications.com/plugins/channels/beta/plugingallery/?appVersion= but for Royal TS not Royal TSX
20:02 < MillerBOSS> https://support.royalapplications.com/support/solutions/articles/17000027798-installing-plugins-on-a-computer-without-access-to-the-internet
20:04 < MillerBOSS> I was hoping to get teh plugins installed to start off but I guess it doesn't matter a whole lot if there are updates in the Royal TS the user has to update on their end anyways
20:05 < scwizard> https://googlecloudplatform.github.io/compute-image-tools/daisy.html
20:05 < scwizard> apparently this is a thing
20:05 < ekaj> Should I go get a Rockstar.. or nah
20:05 < scwizard> never heard of this before in my life but it's very interesting
20:05 < MillerBOSS> Red Bull ekaj. Get me one too thanks
20:05 < ekaj> I have a red bull in my desk but it's warm
20:05 < gnupluslinux> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/dsc/decisionmaker
20:06 < gnupluslinux> "decision maker"
20:06 < gnupluslinux> jfc
20:06 < CheckYourSix> TsarBomba: I feel your pain. Over 2 weeks and more than 20 revisions and the dev still couldn't get the report right. Couldn't trust the data. I had to hand count a year worth of occurrences of stuff. Took me an entire shift. Finally realized the fucker mixed up the days on the output.
20:06 < ekaj> meh I don't really need one
20:07 < giant_it_burrit> does sccm handle dsc?
20:10 <@Code_Man65> No giant_it_burrit
20:12 < jaelae> bought my youngest a new car seat  and the 3 year old a toy. and naturally the 3 year old is playing in the carseat box
20:12 < felda> 10 pinned tabs in Firefox, 30% CPU usage... neat!
20:12 < asimon> Good morning my friends
20:12 < jaelae> felda:  thats amazing. i was running 2 tabs in chrome and running microsoft teams
20:12 < jaelae> and pinned 100% CPU
20:12 < felda> ooof
20:12 < gnupluslinux> felda, something about google's login always pins at least 1 cpu at 100% in ff for some reason
20:13 < MillerBOSS> Awesome for Chrome v
20:13 < MillerBOSS> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/the-great-suspender/klbibkeccnjlkjkiokjodocebajanakg?hl=en
20:13 < scwizard> it is open source: https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/compute-image-tools/
20:13 < felda> gnupluslinux google tryna figure out why the hell you aren't using Chrome
20:13 < gnupluslinux> aye
20:14 < gnupluslinux> really its probably an addon fucking with a script somewhere
20:15 < JFDkthx> jaelae: i've got some spare cores that arent doing anything let me open some tabs for you
20:16 < JFDkthx> goddamn piece of shit tr
20:16 < SynMonger> distributed browsing
20:16 < JFDkthx> never fucking buying amd again
20:16 < gnupluslinux> but muh threadripper
20:16 < gnupluslinux> and intel killer
20:16 < JFDkthx> its garbage
20:17 < JFDkthx> i fucking hate it
20:17 < gnupluslinux> and muh cores and clock speeeeed
20:17 < gnupluslinux> it probably needs time and dev no?
20:17 < JFDkthx> gnupluslinux: i've got about a 20% hit in frames on almost every game i play
20:17 < gnupluslinux> isnt it still _relatively_ new
20:17 < AnimalFarmPig> JFDkthx: what's wrong with your TR?
20:17 < JFDkthx> october 17 i think
20:17 < gnupluslinux> driver support probably still kinky
20:17 < JFDkthx> AnimalFarmPig: single core performance is awful.
20:17 < GreyKite> ...kinky
20:18 < JFDkthx> its great when im streaming.
20:18 < GreyKite> it's almost like game devs don't give a shit about performance
20:19 < JFDkthx> GreyKite: i think it's mostly a problem with the amd HEDT scene.
20:19 < JFDkthx> you wouldnt see this issue with intel.
20:19 < AnimalFarmPig> I wouldn't call it awful, but I guess if you've got stuff that's non-parallel, it's probably not the right chip
20:20 < JFDkthx> AnimalFarmPig: agreed, most games dont go fo full parallelization because thats too difficult.
20:20 < GreyKite> yeah, if I'm gaming, it's intel
20:20 < JFDkthx> i would love to see vermintide maxing out 32 cores.
20:20 < GreyKite> and I'm an AMD fanboi
20:20 < AnimalFarmPig> <JFDkthx> you wouldnt see this issue with intel.   <--- someone just posted a thread on /r/bapc yesterday complaining about their Xeon E5 2698v4 for this exact reason
20:20 < ekaj> I never met a O.G. who never did shit wrong, You tried to diss the Eazy-E, so now, nigga, it's on
20:20 < Heresiarch> and those that do aren't gonna be focusing on maximizing thread count on general processors. They'll focus on video cards.
20:20 < Sousapro> JFDkthx: I'm running TR, what's your problem?
20:20 < JFDkthx> Sousapro: ITS GAHBAGE
20:21 < gnupluslinux> people game on xeon e5's?
20:21 < GreyKite> ....why?
20:21 < JFDkthx> Sousapro: TR 1950x at 4.5, offers worse performance in most games over a 6700k at 4
20:21 < Sousapro> JFDkthx: set it to game mode, reboot, profit?
20:21 < Sousapro> JFDkthx: how fast is the ram?
20:21 < AnimalFarmPig> in that case, the poster had one sitting around so used it
20:21 < JFDkthx> 3000
20:21 < JFDkthx> i know thats key
20:22 < Sousapro> JFDkthx: are we talking directx 12 or vulkan games? or last gen crap?
20:22 < GreyKite> I would imagine that, yes, a xeon is shit for gaming
20:22 < JFDkthx> dx11 and 12
20:22 < Sousapro> dx11, wouldn't be surprised
20:22 < JFDkthx> i think the only game that i play that has vulkan support is doter.
20:23 < JFDkthx> and i run that in opengl i think
20:23 < Sousapro> JFDkthx: wait until next gen stuff then
20:24 < Sousapro> doom runs really well on my TR
20:24 < AnimalFarmPig> just finished refactoring some of my coworker's code. Average request time for that resource has dropped from 19447 ms to 166 ms. feels_good.png
20:24 < Sousapro> I really need to get a better GPU
20:24 < Sousapro> this gtx1080 is not cutting it
20:24 < AnimalFarmPig> s/refactoring/terminating with extreme prejudice
20:24 < gnupluslinux> AnimalFarmPig, now it works too fast
20:24 < JFDkthx> ive got a 1080 aswell.
20:24 < gnupluslinux> how can we trust it
20:25 < Sousapro> JFDkthx: wait, are you trying to compare a regular 4 core chip to an HEDT platform?
20:25 < CheckYourSix> Lol wtf. How did you speed it up so much?
20:25 < admiralspark> so hows monday, everyone
20:25 < JFDkthx> no?
20:25 < Sousapro> specifically for gaming? why would you not go Ryzen 7 or 8th gen i7
20:25 < ny0x> pretty good
20:25 < JFDkthx> i bought thee TR so i can game and stream
20:25 < ny0x> one single email and it was about an issue that happened and was fixed on friday
20:25 < AnimalFarmPig> gnupluslinux: lol, now the resource to retrieve information about all the routers/switches in our database (which I just refactored) actually runs faster than the resource to retrieve information about a single one
20:25 < admiralspark> Ryzen 7 has been awesome so far for me. Actually using one for a homelab proxmox server
20:25 < JFDkthx> for cpu encoding because i didnt want to buy a second system for encoding
20:25 < Sousapro> that's fair, you set it to game mode right?
20:26 < admiralspark> ny0x: noice!
20:26 < JFDkthx> not if im encoding and playing
20:26 < admiralspark> AnimalFarmPig: multithreaded?
20:26 < gnupluslinux> for some reason im reminded of that story where they had to optimize a game for minimal memory usage and at the end, lead dev deleted some random ass 15mb malloc and "saved the day"
20:26 < gnupluslinux> AnimalFarmPig, oh god that "it works too fast, how can we trust it" might become real
20:26 < Sousapro> JFDkthx: lol, that's the trade off for HEDT :P
20:26 < admiralspark> proprietary db? I'm looking for a good replacement for an excel spreadsheet without all of the complication of IPAM's like phpipam AnimalFarmPig
20:27 < AnimalFarmPig> admiralspark: no. Just not doing fuciking stupid things with an ORM.
20:27 < admiralspark> oh
20:27 < admiralspark> hah!
20:27 < JFDkthx> gnupluslinux: when sonic ran out of memory instead of crashing it would go to a stage select screen.
20:27 < Sousapro> JFDkthx: I feel your pain though
20:27 < JFDkthx> Sousapro: yeah, its been painful.
20:27 < JFDkthx> dont even get me started on driver support
20:27 < gnupluslinux> AnimalFarmPig, i like ORMs :(
20:27 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: just roll out phpipam. mysql is not scary.
20:27 < Sousapro> JFDkthx: for what?
20:27 < Sousapro> linux?
20:27 < JFDkthx> raid drivers
20:27 < gnupluslinux> can hopefully not have to worry about getting sql injectorinos :(
20:27 < JFDkthx> nah winders
20:28 < AnimalFarmPig> gnupluslinux: thankfully client isn't a dumbass. We should be good. I'll need to fix some other stuff-- like coworker was calculating number of active/inactive interfaces attached to a switch incorrectly. I fixed it in my stuff, but his incorrect calculations show up in other places.
20:28 < Sousapro> JFDkthx: I just loaded them off of my USB that came with the motherboard and was able to do RAID10 NVMe with no issues\
20:28 < admiralspark> Heresiarch: that's not the issue. I can't believe I'm saying this but the UI is too... "busy" compared to an excel spreadsheet
20:28 < gnupluslinux> if its performance dependent though, ORMs are the bane of existance
20:28 < Sousapro> JFDkthx: which motherboard did you get?
20:28 < admiralspark> I know, it pains me too
20:28 < JFDkthx> Sousapro: rog zenith?
20:28 < Sousapro> JFDkthx: yeah
20:28 < JFDkthx> ++
20:28 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: ...seriously.
20:28 < admiralspark> and it's thechnical people only that are accessing it
20:28 < AnimalFarmPig> if you know how to use an ORM and do eager loading, it's okay
20:28 < JFDkthx> yeah bro that didnt work for me at all.
20:28 < JFDkthx> it was an awful headache
20:28 < gnupluslinux> AnimalFarmPig, oof. hope you have good version control and deployment methods
20:28 < Sousapro> JFDkthx: it took me about 10 minutes :(
20:28 < JFDkthx> i legit took an entire afternoon for it.
20:28 < admiralspark> yep. I am the only voice of reason, boss loves his spreadsheet, single user edits and all
20:28 < JFDkthx> did you have problems get the last screw in the socket?
20:29 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: if phpipam is too "busy", then you're gonna have a hard time finding anything other than a spreadsheet.
20:29 < AnimalFarmPig> but the amount of hoops that you need to jump through to get performant queries with ORM vs just writing sql is not worth it, imo
20:29 < JFDkthx> for the cpu.
20:29 < gnupluslinux> admiralspark, why not set up a wiki of some sort
20:29 < Sousapro> JFDkthx: it was slightly difficult but I followed the pattern
20:29 < admiralspark> Heresiarch: that's my feelings on it as well. At least it's not an access db :P
20:29 < Sousapro> JFDkthx: when did you get it?
20:29 < JFDkthx> prolly around feb
20:29 < JFDkthx> i think
20:29 < Sousapro> same here
20:29 < JFDkthx> its a good fast system
20:29 < JFDkthx> i enjoy it
20:29 < Sousapro> you upgraded the BIOS first right?
20:30 < admiralspark> gnupluslinux: have one, Bookstack, but I need a DB I can multi-user edit and set up scripting to track changes against. Yknow. PHPipam, except not
20:30 < JFDkthx> yeah
20:30 < JFDkthx> 902
20:30 < Sousapro> weird man
20:30 < JFDkthx> i spent weeks on OCN
20:30 < Sousapro> I need to get a TR cooler
20:30 < JFDkthx> im using the 360 endermax.
20:30 < JFDkthx> well the tr4 360.
20:31 < gnupluslinux> AnimalFarmPig, oh i dont think anyone's saying ORMs are performant, entity framework is a bitch a half and lazy loading is annoying af, but you can reasonably expect the input to be sanitized
20:31 < JFDkthx> 4.5 boosted under full synthetic load it sits around 70c
20:32 < JFDkthx> which is probably a thermal paste problem.
20:32 < AnimalFarmPig> gnupluslinux: we're using sqlalchemy with Python. Nice thing about sqlalchemy is that you can ORM or you can use the "core" which allows you to build sql queries in Python.
20:32 < gnupluslinux> which was my main concern
20:33 < AnimalFarmPig> example-- https://bpaste.net/show/f7c8d8ae9977
20:33 < AnimalFarmPig> also handles sanitization, etc.
20:33 < gnupluslinux> reminds me of linq
20:33 < bsaggy> anyone know of a NAS that supports syncing to Office 365 for Business? Looking to utilize our O365 business accounts to sync from a NAS to OneDrive.
20:34 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, haven't used it, but from what I've heard of linq it sounds nice
20:35 < Sousapro> JFDkthx: I'm using one of those Thermaltake Water Riing Plus 360mm coolers
20:35 < Sousapro> so rainbows everywhere
20:35 < Sousapro> it's usually set to one color though
20:35 < Sousapro> spectrum cycling is distracting lol
20:36 < technonerd> Rbg is like stickers on ricers
20:36 < AnimalFarmPig> .yt dead prez rbg
20:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> bsaggy: I don't thikn I've ever heard of a NAS having native O365 support
20:37 < silentfury> bsaggy: Synology does this, with an addon.
20:38 < silentfury> i've never used it and can't recommend it tho
20:39 < bsaggy> Thanks. I thought the add-on a few weeks ago just said "office 365", but it looks like it says "office 365 for business" now that I look again. Although, perhaps I wasn't even looking at synology then.
20:40 < tsarbomba> ahahahahahahahaha
20:40 < tsarbomba> i win devs lose
20:40  * tsarbomba victory fart
20:41 < tsarbomba> tryta #fakenews operations and you get wrecked son
20:41 < admiralspark> what;'d you do tsarbomba
20:41 < tsarbomba> i just battled my way through a room full of developers and my $boss to prove that the problem in their new version is a problem in their new version and not some bullshit arcanum they tried to blame on me
20:41 < tsarbomba> the blood of the nonbelievers runs in the streets
20:42 < admiralspark> hail tsarbomba, deliverer of packets, destroyer of devs
20:42 < tsarbomba> i think it is time for a victory bagel
20:42 < SynMonger> tsarbomba: What is best in life?
20:48 < Hatter> anyone remember arnold.hiof.no
20:48 < estranger> ive joined team pi-hole
20:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> estranger: +++
20:49 < Hatter> I've been meaning to order one of those new pi's
20:49 < Hatter> I just don't know what to do with it yet
20:50 < AnimalFarmPig> what does the pi-hole do, exactly? fails dns look-ups for domains associated with ads?
20:50 < scwizard> man need to learn this new tool
20:50 < scwizard> how many people have heard of "daisy" before?
20:50 < ekaj> `bofh
20:50 < Heresiarch> scwizard: not since Johnson was president. Link?
20:51 < scwizard> Heresiarch: https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/compute-image-tools/
20:51 < scwizard> "Daisy is a solution for running multi-step workflows on GCE."
20:51 < Heresiarch> scwizard: soooo...GCE's version of packer?
20:51 < scwizard> i don't know yet
20:51 < vinrock> holy fuck att
20:52 < vinrock> i cant even get a human being on the phone so i can drop this t1
20:52 < scwizard> but this is the first time i've gotten an email from a @google.com address. Sure it was via mailing list, but I still feel kinda honored
20:52 < Casteil> vinrock: that's why I hate megacorps :|
20:52 < Casteil> google, pretty much any ISP.. all hard to get ahold of an actual person
20:52 < Casteil> amazon too
20:53 < Heresiarch> amazon isn't hard to get someone on the phone, if you pay them enough.
20:53 < vinrock> i fucking hate att so much
20:53 < SynMonger> quit paying it, they'll find you
20:53 < vinrock> im shitcanning a managed t1 right now then next month im dropping the whole ipflex shit and moving to verizon
20:53 < scwizard> Heresiarch: i believe it's 10k USD a month minimum for that
20:53 < Casteil> Heresiarch: Oh I'm talking more amazon retai
20:53 < Casteil> retail
20:54 < Heresiarch> Casteil: ah
20:54 < Heresiarch> scwizard: yeah, probably.
20:54 < scwizard> my bad they raised the price
20:54 < scwizard> Pricing: Starts at $15k per month. See pricing detail and sample.
20:54 < scwizard> it used to be 10k
20:56 < scwizard> i've had the business support before
20:56 < scwizard> they say they give phone support but they don't really
20:56 < JFDkthx> quitting time suckers
20:56 < JFDkthx> see you tomorrow
20:57 < JFDkthx> except you hatter. go kick rocks
20:57 < scwizard> (the business support starts at 100 a month, 15k a month is for enterprise)
20:58 < asimon> cya nerd
21:02 < genr8_> lol nice
21:02 < genr8_> oops
21:05 <+AnonymooseWork> sup
21:07 < admiralspark> sup AnonymooseWork
21:08 <+AnonymooseWork> oh
21:08 <+AnonymooseWork> livin the dream
21:08 <+AnonymooseWork> you
21:10 < admiralspark> Same same man.
21:13 < admiralspark> living the american dream
21:14 < McDonaldsWiFi> man
21:14 < McDonaldsWiFi> I haven't been too active her in a couple months and now there's like 10 new names I don't recognize
21:14 < McDonaldsWiFi> get off my lawn
21:15 < technonerd> Rood
21:15 < McDonaldsWiFi> <3
21:16 < admiralspark> kids nowadays
21:16 < abakedapplepie> McDonaldsWiFi once upon a time i was telling you to get off my lawn
21:16 < abakedapplepie> also, get off my lawn
21:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> abakedapplepie: <3
21:19 < DomLS3> McDonaldsWiFi: get active then son
21:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> DomLS3: too busy workin
21:19 < DomLS3> what else could be more important
21:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> unlike you
21:19 < DomLS3> not work
21:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> huehuehue
21:19 < DomLS3> my job is to sit here and shitpost
21:20 < DomLS3> i work everyday to give the users of #r-s quality shitposting
21:26 < SpookyCrisp> The shittiest shitposts
21:27 <@Code_Man65> No SpookyCrisp, the most fragrant shitposts
21:27 < DomLS3> ^^
21:27 < SpookyCrisp> Code_Man65, Ah, thank you for the correction.
21:28 < DomLS3> SpookyCrisp: too late no take backsies
21:28 < SpookyCrisp> Shit he got me
21:29 < DomLS3> been boring today where is everyone
21:30 < SpookyCrisp> Not shitposting
21:30 < DomLS3> not living life
21:31 < tsarbomba> SpookyCrisp: back to work
21:31 < tsarbomba> Code_Man65: back to work
21:31 < tsarbomba> McDonaldsWiFi: back to work
21:31 < tsarbomba> admiralspark: back to work
21:31 < SpookyCrisp> tsarbomba, back to work
21:31 < tsarbomba> abakedapplepie: back to work
21:31 < tsarbomba> AnonymooseWork: back to work
21:31 < abakedapplepie> YOURE NOT MY DAD
21:31 < tsarbomba> genr8_: back to work
21:31 < tsarbomba> technonerd: back to work
21:31 < abakedapplepie> cryptic1 tsarbomba is telling me to do stuff!!!
21:31 < scwizard> god google's dashboard is awful
21:31 < scwizard> for google cloud
21:31 <@cryptic1> busy working
21:32 < abakedapplepie> hahah
21:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> relt
21:32 < abakedapplepie> oh now i feel bad
21:33 < scwizard> like the interface just lags
21:33 < SpookyCrisp> scwizard, What if you are the one lagging?
21:33 < scwizard> nah
21:33 < AnimalFarmPig> have you tried throwing hardware at it?
21:35 <@Code_Man65> Have you tried turning it off and back on again?
21:36 < TuxedoJack> Have you tried kindly doing the needful and reverting soonest?
21:36 < scwizard> also google's cloud dashboard doesn't support right clicks
21:37 < scwizard> if you want to start an instance you can't right click start
21:37 < scwizard> you need to click on the 3 fucking small dots
21:37 < GreyKite> scwizard: tell me how you really feel
21:37 < scwizard> i feel like google needs to hire some more ux people
21:38 < AnimalFarmPig> probably because so many of them are on apple they don't do right clicks
21:39 < admiralspark> tsap: are you the bot now?
21:39 < admiralspark> nevermind
21:41 < DomLS3> .value nano
21:41 < scwizard> AnimalFarmPig: i thought google forced everyone to use linux desktops
21:41 < DomLS3> Current NANO (Nano) value: 6.48 (USD)
21:41 < DomLS3> .value btc
21:41 < DomLS3> Current BTC (Bitcoin) value: 8793.23 (USD)
21:41 < scwizard> due to actually caring about security
21:41 < AnimalFarmPig> scwizard: someone was saying earlier today that google let their devs choose between windows, apple, and linux
21:41 < scwizard> oh i guess i'm wrong
21:41 <@Code_Man65> That was me, and it isn't just devs
21:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> .value DomLS3
21:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> Current DomLS3 (DomLS3) value: 0.00 (USD) - He's fucking worthless
21:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> jk <3
21:42 <@Code_Man65> Everyone who gets hired at google gets to choose
21:42 < ekaj> if you're an org as big as google you can make everything work together pretty easily
21:42 < gnupluslinux> and i hate that that idea trickled don
21:42 < AnimalFarmPig> getting to choose a linux desktop sounds nice
21:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> Code_Man65: you work for our overlords? I mean google?
21:42 < gnupluslinux> can recall a few places advertising that on their postings
21:42 <@Code_Man65> No, I just know of some things about them
21:42 < scwizard> Code_Man65: did you know about daisy without telling us?
21:43 < DomLS3> Current DomLS3 (GOD) value: priceless
21:43 < AnimalFarmPig> at job n - 2, the didn't give a shit what devs ran, so I installed debian on my work issued laptop myself
21:43 < ekaj> TIL hotdoghighway.com is a website
21:44 < gnupluslinux> sad old songs by chris ruiz
21:44 < gnupluslinux> ok.png
21:44 < DomLS3> TIL (thanks to Code_Man65) /r/carsfuckingdragons is a subreddit
21:44 < Johne> so is MS going to patch RDP any time soon? or is it only going to make things worse?
21:44 < DomLS3> same for /r/dragonsfuckingcars
21:44 < admiralspark> Johne: what?
21:44 < ekaj> Patch RDP?
21:44 < admiralspark> what's wrong with it?
21:44 <@Code_Man65> If you want a laugh go to /r/shubreddit
21:44 <+AnonymooseWork> Johne ...  you mean you need to patch your servers to fix rdp?
21:44 < gnupluslinux> why is codeman credited with that
21:45 < gnupluslinux> Johne, there's a gpo to roll out
21:45 < admiralspark> what AnonymooseWork said
21:45 < Johne> 1803 broke everything
21:45 < hxcsp> it was a documented change
21:45 < DomLS3> Code_Man65: I shee what you did there
21:45 < hxcsp> nobody read about it previously though so it caused issues
21:45 < gnupluslinux> shrubreddit
21:45 < Johne> oh it was?
21:45 < admiralspark> queue "two months in advanced" speeches
21:45 < AnimalFarmPig> I heard on NPR this weekend that hotdog is Mitt Romney's favorite meat
21:45 < ekaj> shubreddit
21:45 < AnimalFarmPig> his second favorite meat is hamburger
21:46 < AnimalFarmPig> ekaj: is hotdoghighway.com safe for work?
21:46 < gnupluslinux> i had some hamburg steak in japan
21:46 < gnupluslinux> shit is not hamburger as i was expecting
21:46 < gnupluslinux> would not have again
21:46 < gnupluslinux> AnimalFarmPig, yes
21:46 <+AnonymooseWork> ... gnupluslinux what was it
21:46 < gnupluslinux> just some guy's portfolio site it looks like
21:46 < Hatter> is hersheyhighway.com sfw?
21:46 <+AnonymooseWork> lol hatter
21:46 < ekaj> AnimalFarmPig: yes
21:47 < AnimalFarmPig> oh, it's just some musician website it looks like
21:47 < JollyRgrs> Hatter: maybe it is to keep a road in PA litter free?
21:47 < JollyRgrs> lol
21:47 < Heresiarch> Hatter: probably depends on how fast you plow through it.
21:47 < Hatter> what
21:47 < Hatter> why would you plow through a highway
21:47 < Hatter> you're not making any sense man
21:48 < gnupluslinux> why would you not
21:48 < gnupluslinux> take back your land from the govt
21:48 < starbomba> oh hallo
21:48 < Heresiarch> Hatter: have you not heard of speed limits? Police officers tend to get strict about those sorts of things, especially in scenic highways like the Hershey Highway.
21:48 < Hatter>  oh look, it's some new guy
21:48 < starbomba> new guy here
21:48 < gnupluslinux> is his name michael
21:48 < gnupluslinux> are we v sauce?
21:50 < Heresiarch> Hatter: thus the statement. If you're ploughing through the Hershey Highway at high speed, you'll likely get in trouble. Or make a mess of things.
21:50 < abakedapplepie> giggity
21:50 < DomLS3> I plowed my finger into my girl's hershey highway last night
21:50 < abakedapplepie> gross
21:50 < abakedapplepie> i dont do butt stuff
21:50 < abakedapplepie> much to my wife's disdain
21:50 < starbomba> and by "don't" he means "absolutely loves"
21:50 < starbomba> +do
21:50 < DomLS3> give your wife what she wants
21:51 < DomLS3> or she'll find someone else who will
21:51 < rhqq> ^^
21:51 < starbomba> go ahead, show them your mt. rectmore buttplug
21:51 <@Code_Man65> This is not an appropriate topic
21:51 < rhqq> why, not politics
21:51 < abakedapplepie> we never have time to bang anyway
21:52 < AnimalFarmPig> https://i.redd.it/xlg1atacmbmz.png
21:52 < abakedapplepie> been married for six months and i can count on two hands
21:52 < starbomba> y'all fixin to make mad cash betting on sports legally now?
21:52 < starbomba> i wonder what all the "informal" bookies are going to do now
21:52 < rhqq> they'll turn back formal
21:52 < gnupluslinux> abakedapplepie, i thought you was married this entire time
21:52 < AnimalFarmPig> gambling industry is a good one to be in
21:52 < starbomba> i don't think they were ever formal to begin with
21:52 < abakedapplepie> married last august
21:52 < abakedapplepie> so more like 9 months i guess
21:52 < starbomba> certainly not nicky "the nose" bagadonuts
21:52 < AnimalFarmPig> they make lots of money
21:53 < AnimalFarmPig> I worked for essentially a MSP for "internet cafes that are totally not slot machine rooms" for a while. It was fun.
21:53 < asimon> Is there a term for SIDS but like for new computers
21:54 < Hatter> Heresiarch: alright sheesh, I walked away like 15 minutes ago
21:54 < abakedapplepie> asimon: DOA? lol
21:54 < Hatter> Heresiarch: it was still quite a stretch
21:54 < asimon> I've now had two laptops mysteriously black screen and refuse to respond to input
21:54 < asimon> In the middle of doing shit
21:54 < abakedapplepie> are they special screens like oled or some shit
21:54 < abakedapplepie> does the bios show on screen
21:55 < asimon> Don't think so. Standard dell latitude series
21:55 < starbomba> asimon, "new mac syndrome"
21:55 < TuxedoJack> asimon: Lenovo
21:55 < asimon> It takes a lot of fiddling around with the power button to get it to come back from the dead
21:55 < TuxedoJack> That's the term
21:55 < TuxedoJack> Crapacitors?
21:55 < abakedapplepie> sounds like its time to call warranty support
21:55 < TuxedoJack> Boot to TuxPE 10, see if it's replicatable under that
21:55 < abakedapplepie> 2 out of how many?
21:55 < admiralspark> soooooooooooo.....Windows Admin Center requires HyperV powershell module, Winrm 5.1, and File Services roles to be installed on 2012 and up server for them to be manageable?
21:55 < admiralspark> Why?
21:55 < AnimalFarmPig> bathtub curve of reliability
21:56 < asimon> 2 of 12 so far
21:56 < AnimalFarmPig> shit gonna break either right away or when it wears out
21:56 < TuxedoJack> admiralspark: because fuck you, that's why
21:56 < abakedapplepie> administ1ator: because it uses remote powershell for everythign
21:56 < admiralspark> TuxedoJack: I guess so. Damn.
21:56 < asimon> Sometimes I can get a spooky dell bios logo to come up really faint in the background
21:56 < abakedapplepie> i wanted to use windows admin center on hper-v core machines
21:56 < abakedapplepie> but apparently its just not possible
21:56 < asimon> its like I'm in some shitty b-list horror movie
21:56 < admiralspark> abakedapplepie: haha, seriously?
21:56 < asimon> about being a sysadmin
21:56 < SynMonger> or the backlight is off
21:56 < abakedapplepie> administ1ator: winrm5.1 wont install
21:57 < abakedapplepie> on hyper-v core
21:57 < abakedapplepie> says its not supported on this edition of windows
21:57 < abakedapplepie> i thought about hacking the registry to make it look like its actually server 2012 and not hyper-v core but i never got around ti it
21:58 < abakedapplepie> you can use windows admin center to manage hyper-v core, but it has to be installed on a full os
21:58 < abakedapplepie> which doesnt help my use case
21:59 < abakedapplepie> its annoying that microsoft didnt give any good free tools for managing hyper-v core outside of a domain environment
21:59 < Heresiarch> powershell?
22:00 < abakedapplepie> Heresiarch: cant connect to a hyper-v vm from the hyper-v core console with powershell
22:00 < abakedapplepie> can do it with 5nine hyper-v manager so thats what i use but it has really awful limitations on its free license
22:01 < abakedapplepie> thats literally all i want
22:01 < abakedapplepie> to be able to access VMs from hyper-v
22:01 < abakedapplepie> locally
22:03 < Johne> <gnupluslinux> Johne, there's a gpo to roll out
22:04 < Johne> but what if we don't use GPO...
22:04 < Johne> 1709 forever amirite?
22:08 < CheckYourSix> HD6XX's are back on Massdrop - https://www.massdrop.com/buy/61790
22:09 < MillerBOSS> 17094lyfe
22:09 < starbomba> refuse2patch 2018
22:09 < MillerBOSS> OK DomLS3
22:09 < MillerBOSS> Feature updates are one thing but disregarding security updates is another. :P
22:10 < starbomba> https://www.computerworld.com/article/3216425/microsoft-windows/microsoft-patch-alert-april-patches-infested-with-bugs-but-most-are-finally-contained.html
22:10 < MillerBOSS> What kind of bugs? Better call the exterminator.
22:10 < MillerBOSS> Termites are bad news bears
22:11 < CheckYourSix> I fucking hate our time card system. Boss can only approve the 2 week cycle from his phone, not individual weeks, and HR is on him about doing it weekly. He's on vacation, so he approved the whole cycle. That means we're locked out of being able to enter times this week. We can only hit the punch button on our phone. The system fucked up and I have 2 separate punch in times today on top of a punch out/in for lunch...not sure how
22:11 < CheckYourSix> that's even allowed
22:11 < CheckYourSix> Normally I can edit it myself and fix it. Now he has to unlock it.
22:12 < MillerBOSS> I have kicked and screamed about using a time clock as salary.
22:13 < CheckYourSix> I'm hourly. The whole system is just fucking retarded and not user friendly at all
22:13 < MillerBOSS> Yeah sounds like no fun
22:13 < B_RAD1> oh gawd I'm about to take an hourly job
22:13 < B_RAD1> i hope it's not shitty like that
22:13 < srg> Thank god I'm not hourly
22:13 < CheckYourSix> Mobile app is shit too. They don't want us to have it, but our department requires it. I won't let it GPS track me though. It kept asking for permissions
22:14 < srg> We had a clock in/out system when I first started (dispite the fact that we're all salaried) but they got rid of it
22:14 < CheckYourSix> srg: Yeah, but I get paid a lot of overtime, so...
22:14 < B_RAD1> CheckYourSix, lol
22:14 < B_RAD1> 'we see you aren't at work right now.'
22:14 < B_RAD1> 'maybe you should go to work?'
22:14 < DomLS3> YES
22:14 < DomLS3> join my my brethern in refuse2patch 2018
22:14 < B_RAD1> boi dont do that
22:15 < DomLS3> brethren
22:15 < CheckYourSix> B_RAD1: I will punch in at my house if they call me for dumb shit. Plus, sometimes I leave from home and go direct to pick something up for work.
22:15 < MillerBOSS> http://refuse2patch2018.com/
22:16 < MillerBOSS> Someone buy that now
22:16 < MillerBOSS> thx
22:16 < MillerBOSS> Lets get the word out to Microsoft
22:18  * MillerBOSS looks at felda 
22:20 < DomLS3> http://refuse2patchevar.com/
22:21 < Hatter> CheckYourSix: should I get those?
22:21 < MillerBOSS> Register it DomLS3
22:21 < CheckYourSix> Hatter: I'm new to the headphone world. They seem to be widely loved and recommended, so I'm giving them a shot. Ask Sousapro or others in this channel who know the stuff.
22:22 < DomLS3> MillerBOSS: I'm 2 poor
22:22 < DomLS3> got a corvette and shit
22:22 < Hatter> I already have those tan seinheisers
22:22 < Hatter> you know the ones
22:25 < MillerBOSS> DomLS3 👉 Bad choices there son. Wrong priorities
22:25 < Hatter> why is this a massdrop
22:25 < felda> hmmm
22:25 < felda> gonna setup some old computers in the break room
22:25 < MillerBOSS> Corvettes do not get you chics. Domains do.
22:25 < JollyRgrs> s/ m/n
22:25 < felda> do I leave them hooked into the domain and only have them login to a guest account?
22:25 < felda> or do I remove from the domain entirely????
22:26 < JollyRgrs> felda: is this break room for employees only?
22:26 < felda> no it would be open to public
22:26 < MillerBOSS> Will you have to series the machine if issues?
22:26 < MillerBOSS> service*
22:26 < felda> MillerBOSS yeah
22:26 < MillerBOSS> Whats it called ..
22:26 < JollyRgrs> felda: what kind of public? like a drs office waiting room?
22:26 < felda> nah
22:26 < MillerBOSS> Frozen something or another
22:26 < srg> If it's public, then off the domain I'd vote for
22:26 < SynMonger> deep freeze
22:26 < JollyRgrs> deep freeze
22:26 < MillerBOSS> Yeah SynMonger
22:27 < felda> it's closer to like Youth Groups, student meetings, and family of staff coming in to copy, print, or email stuff
22:27 < felda> also kids of the employees get left in there some times too to play web games or do homework
22:27 < JollyRgrs> felda: we had some kiosk machines at the hospital, we locked them down to basically only run iexplore.exe and GPOed the heck out of locking them down
22:27 < MillerBOSS> To bad you can't set up a Chrome station
22:27 < MillerBOSS> In guest mode
22:27 <+AnonymooseWork> felda...  kiosk machines and def. not part of the domain
22:27 < felda> Well unfortunately they need to be more than a kiosk
22:27 < JollyRgrs> that way they can still be patched easily, etc, even RDPed into w/o trying to remember local admin PW
22:27 < felda> they need to run Word and Excel
22:28 < JollyRgrs> EGAD!
22:28 < felda> I would prefer to force everyone on Chrome with uBlock Origin
22:28 < MillerBOSS> felda 👉 https://enterprise.google.com/chrome/devices/asus-chromebox/
22:28 < felda> nah fam you are missing the point
22:28 < MillerBOSS> $360 wayyy worth it
22:28 < felda> these are old machines that are getting replaced
22:28 < felda> I ain't buying anything for some scrubs that come in once a week
22:28 < MillerBOSS> But you will have to service them and all
22:28 < JollyRgrs> felda: why excel and word? make them pay for an o365 acct and use word online
22:29 < CheckYourSix> Hatter: What do you mean why is it a Massdrop?
22:29 < felda> JollyRgrs random kids come in to do homework
22:29 < MillerBOSS> This pays for your time in the long run
22:29 < JollyRgrs> felda: oh
22:29 < felda> JollyRgrs like disadvantaged kids with no computers at home
22:29 < JollyRgrs> is this really SOLEY for them to do this?
22:29 < felda> also Grandma and Grandpa stop in to print out pictures of their kids
22:29 < felda> JollyRgrs not solely
22:29 < Hatter> CheckYourSix: I dunno I just think of keycaps and not name brandy stuff on there
22:29 < DomLS3> pfsense
22:29 < JollyRgrs> felda: so who else will use it?
22:29 < SynMonger> deep freeze is like $30 a machine and you can forget they exist until hardware breaks
22:29 < JollyRgrs> we gotta get the full scope
22:29 < CheckYourSix> Hatter: Well it's the #1 most sought after item on Massdrop because it's $200 here and $400 retail...
22:30 < Hatter> oh you don't say
22:30 < felda> JollyRgrs kids, parents, grandparents, friends and family of the owners and employees, random blokes who come in for youth group and other ministry stuff
22:30 < JollyRgrs> felda: also, what is your current (re)imaging process? MDT? SCCM? Norton Ghost? lol
22:30 < felda> JollyRgrs no imaging
22:30 < AnimalFarmPig> felda: if linux + libreoffice is okay, you could do a linux box with root on a read only network block device
22:30 < Hatter> CheckYourSix: I have these https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0042A8CW2/ref=pe_385040_30332190_TE_M3T1_ST1_dp_1
22:30 < JollyRgrs> felda: so a church common area
22:30 < CheckYourSix> Hatter: Ok, $370 retail. It went down
22:30 < felda> JollyRgrs kinda
22:30 < JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: that's not doable with kids doing HW
22:30 < felda> I'm not doing linux
22:30 < JollyRgrs> you know they won't have libreoffice at school
22:30 < felda> I already tried Ubuntu and people were literally dieing
22:30 < JollyRgrs> lol
22:31 < DomLS3> who tf needs $300 headphones if you're not recording
22:31 < AnimalFarmPig> damn, because linux makes it easy to do stateless
22:31 < JollyRgrs> dying even?
22:31 < felda> So here is the REAL reason I'm doing this:  My boss and coworkers frequently let random people use their actual work computers
22:31 < felda> I'm not even joking
22:31 < giant_it_burrit> felda: wut
22:31 < giant_it_burrit> go 2 factor
22:31 < felda> Yes I already talked about this to them
22:31 < felda> nah giant_it_burrit you don't understand
22:31 < felda> this is a mom and pop shop
22:31 < Hatter> CheckYourSix: these are the 650's?
22:31 < giant_it_burrit> so
22:31 < giant_it_burrit> use their phones
22:31 < giant_it_burrit> ez
22:31 < CheckYourSix> Hatter: Yes
22:31 < felda> LMAO
22:32 < AnimalFarmPig> facial recognition system through the webcam :P
22:32 < felda> all my coworkers are at least 10 years older than me
22:32 < felda> 2 of them don't even have smart phones
22:32 < giant_it_burrit> so
22:32 < giant_it_burrit> your 12
22:32 < giant_it_burrit> you can do a text
22:32 < giant_it_burrit> ez
22:32 < felda> I am asking
22:32 < Hatter> CheckYourSix: is this a limited quantity kinda thing? it says 17 days left
22:32 < JollyRgrs> felda: local GPOs
22:32 < felda> what is the best way I should lock these down while still remaining mostly functional
22:32 < JollyRgrs> gpedit.msc
22:32 < giant_it_burrit> enable guest user?
22:32 < JollyRgrs> then just copy the policy files to the other machines
22:33 < felda> ooof my USB drive bones
22:33 < felda> I dunno I still have the Win7 keys so I could just take a Veeam backup and then restore if it gets goofed
22:33 < JollyRgrs> felda: local policy and whitelist apps...
22:33 < felda> I don't have an imaging system setup because only 1 server
22:33 < JollyRgrs> wait, is this win10 home?
22:33 < giant_it_burrit> deepfreeze
22:33 < CheckYourSix> Hatter: Yes. 47k units is the cap. They're already over 45k. Look right below the star ratings
22:34 < DomLS3> fuck 1 1/2 hours left
22:34 < SynMonger> if deep freeze isn't an option the next best thing is gpedit and lock it down
22:34 < felda> I'm not buying Deep Freeze as much as you want me to
22:34  * JollyRgrs doesn't play by hours anymore... i have been slowly leaving earlier and earlier
22:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
22:35 < Hatter> CheckYourSix: alright you talked me into it
22:35 < JollyRgrs> felda: so it is win10 pro, right?
22:35 < JollyRgrs> i assume not enterprise
22:35 < felda> lel
22:35 < felda> It's Win 7 Pro
22:35 < JollyRgrs> or is it win vista home?
22:35 < JollyRgrs> ok
22:35 < felda> I could upgrade to Win 10 Pro for free tho
22:35 < JollyRgrs> yeah
22:35 < JollyRgrs> wait, they stopped the handicap free upgrades
22:35 < felda> I might do that
22:35 < CheckYourSix> Hatter: Lol. I've never used them personally. Reviews say they are a lot nicer than the 598. Worst case, sell them on Craigslist or something for the $200 you pay for them
22:35 < JollyRgrs> how will you upgrade to win10 for free?
22:35 < felda> JollyRgrs I've been sneaking in somehow
22:35 < JollyRgrs> or is it a pc that came with both licenses?
22:36 < felda> just upgraded 2 computers a month ago
22:36 < felda> no these are 5 year old machines
22:36 < JollyRgrs> felda: also, techincally, those upgrades for free are only for consumers, not companies
22:36 < SynMonger> you can still upgrade win7 for free
22:36 < Hatter> CheckYourSix: craigslist? what do I look like?
22:36 < felda> >_>
22:36 < JollyRgrs> in case they care
22:36 < felda> dawg
22:36 < felda> do not speak those words to me
22:36 < JollyRgrs> that is why enterprise did not get a free upgrade
22:36 < felda> nah I'm just messing these would be for guest use only
22:37 < JollyRgrs> but yeah, srsly, you know all those things you wanted to lock down but never could b/c ppl told you no?
22:37 < felda> We might even give these away to employees who have no home PC
22:37 < JollyRgrs> NOW YOU CAN
22:37 < CheckYourSix> Hatter: Haha
22:37 < felda> yeah I know I want to swing the hammer of justice
22:37 < felda> I think I'll leave them Win7 Pro just so I don't have to hastle with finding drivers
22:38 < JollyRgrs> felda: tbh, should be no addt'l drivers, should "just work"
22:38 < JollyRgrs> also, win10 would be easier to keep up with updates
22:39 < JollyRgrs> and the option to clean reimage is a breeze
22:39 < JollyRgrs> which you might have to do from time to time :)
22:39 < MillerBOSS> See this $360 Chromebox looks really hassle free :P
22:39 < AnimalFarmPig> felda: segregate the machine into its own network where it can touch nothing else internal and it receives lowest priority qos bucket, install Windows with autologin of administrator account, let users do whatever they fucking want with the machine. To deal with the inevitable viruses, etc. throw hardware at the problem to keep the machine responsive. I suggest you start with a 16 core threadripper with 64 GB of memeory and 1 TB
22:39 < AnimalFarmPig> NVMe drive.
22:39 < MillerBOSS> You will regret it in the end. I did it for all the machine I upgraded. THey are still sitting here
22:39 < JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: don't make me op myself just to kick you
22:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> felda: first invent the universe
22:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> felda: before doing AnimalFarmPig's solution
22:40 < JollyRgrs> that's WAY too much text just for a boring, hapless troll
22:40 < felda> JollyRgrs unfortunately I already tried and the audio and usb drivers get boned because the 64bit version made by Gigabyte are broken on arrival
22:40 < JollyRgrs> oh that sucks
22:40 < felda> then I have to manually extract the drivers and install the proper 64bit software :(
22:40 < JollyRgrs> well, how many asre there?
22:40 < AnimalFarmPig> JollyRgrs: this is my new advice for "grandma needs a new computer" questions. You'll never get the users to not do stupid stuff, so just throw hardware at it. It's easier than finding elaborate ways to keep the machines running nicely.
22:41 < JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: that's terrible advise
22:41 < MillerBOSS> Nah JollyRgrs  That was perfect what AnimalFarmPig said
22:41 < felda> JollyRgrs I will have about 15 left over once the transition is complete
22:41 < JollyRgrs> advice even
22:41 < felda> I plan to have 3 in the break/common room
22:41 < felda> the rest are going to be sold or given away
22:41 < felda> so really only 3 need to be managed by me
22:41 < JollyRgrs> felda: oh, that's a lot... so the small work of updating drivers on 15 (you'll have to hand touch them all anyways, right?) vs being able to reimage at the click of a button?
22:41 < felda> right
22:42 < MillerBOSS> If you are not pulling your hair out now get ready :P
22:42 < JollyRgrs> so worry about the 3 you manage
22:42 < JollyRgrs> the give aways... you aren't giving away support4lyfe
22:42 < felda> I currently use Manage Engine Desktop Central to manage my 15-20 devices
22:42 < felda> up to 25 devices for free :D
22:42 < JollyRgrs> ha
22:42 < felda> Automatically patches and reboots them all on Sunday
22:42 < JollyRgrs> however... you'd be doing a favor to those free recipients if you upgrade them to win10
22:42 < felda> plus I can push out custom GPO and install software
22:42 < felda> yeah I would
22:43 < JollyRgrs> felda: do it for the kids!
22:43 < felda> personally I love Win10
22:43 < felda> I always disable the cortana search bar though >_>
22:43 < felda> takes up so much task bar space
22:43 < JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmA8iayfLyM
22:44 < JollyRgrs> felda: you can just make it an icon vs search bar
22:44 < felda> yeah but I hate it anyway so DIE DIE DIE
22:44 < felda> the only thing that chuffs me really bad in Win10 is the auto searching the web on the start menu
22:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> or the auto updating
22:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> or the auto reset of your telemetry nuke
22:45 < asimon> or the auto bloatware
22:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> or the auto set of defualts
22:45 < felda> Also I can't transfer my life time Malwarebytes subscription to the new computers   (•̀ 益•̀)
22:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> just the auto everything lol
22:45 < felda> fucking malwarebytes
22:45 < JollyRgrs> felda: why not?
22:45 < MillerBOSS> Or the drivers that automatically get installed that fuck shit up
22:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> ^
22:45 < JollyRgrs> can't xfer to a new OS?
22:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> MillerBOSS: and turning that setting off is just as temporary
22:46 < felda> JollyRgrs what they don't tell you is you have a limited amount of PC installs / transfers
22:46 < JollyRgrs> lol
22:46 < JollyRgrs> how limited?
22:46 < felda> like 5
22:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> 5 transfers on devices?
22:46 < AnimalFarmPig> lol, don't own more than 5 machines in your lifetime, I guess
22:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> why have you transfered it 5 times lol
22:46 < MillerBOSS> Use a k e y g e n ?
22:46 < felda> McDonaldsWiFi on the same fucking device no less
22:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> oh
22:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL relt
22:46 < MillerBOSS> Its for the kids after all felda
22:46 < felda> so you could have the exact same hardware like me
22:46 < felda> I frequently swap back and forth between GNU+Linux and Windows
22:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> lame
22:47 < felda> and after the 5th time of going back to Windows they were like NAH FUCK YOU BUD
22:47 < JollyRgrs> felda: i bet it would work if you just switched between linux and windows
22:47 < felda> Each year I try linux once
22:47 < JollyRgrs> i hear gnu+ doesn't work well with malwarebytes
22:47 < felda> I go all in to get the real experience
22:48 < felda> I don't ever run antivirus on any of my linux installs
22:48 < corn266> JollyRgrs: you really should upgrade to common sense 2018
22:48 < JollyRgrs> nah
22:48 < JollyRgrs> i got common sense 365
22:48 < JollyRgrs> it's a perpetual subscription based license
22:48 < felda> lmao
22:48 < corn266> I hate how all these services are becoming subscription based
22:48 < JollyRgrs> felda: you don't need to on win10 either
22:48 < felda> yeah I don't at home anymore
22:48 < MillerBOSS> Microsoft 3 6 5
22:48 < MillerBOSS> Microsoft 3 6 5
22:49 < felda> after Malwarebytes told me to take a hike I was mad and only ever use the built in AV
22:49 < JollyRgrs> felda: go microHARD! (just like MillerBOSS did with your mom last night)
22:49 < JollyRgrs> DOUBLE BURN!
22:49 < JollyRgrs> OOOOOOH!
22:49 < MillerBOSS> Are you jealous? Sure sounds like it.
22:49 < MillerBOSS> More for me
22:49 < MillerBOSS> :D
22:50 < JollyRgrs> MillerBOSS: that's NOT what she said
22:50 < JollyRgrs> she was snapchatting me last night talking about how tiny and unfilling you were
22:50 < technonerd> The internet is down at work
22:50 < JollyRgrs> technonerd: time to go home
22:50 < technonerd> I screamed that
22:50 < MillerBOSS> Yeah the liquor only makes it worse
22:50 < JollyRgrs> you know what else is down at work? something about me on the elevator to go home
22:51 < JollyRgrs> see ya! wouldn't wanna... Be ya!
22:51 < corn266> See ya later aligator
22:59 < L3gacy> Good bacon to all and to all some good bacons!  #Just7aramThings
23:00 < L3gacy> I want to learn powershell.  Anyone here that can point me to good resources for such and endeavor?
23:00 < Heresiarch> L3gacy: /r/Powershell
23:01 < L3gacy> danke
23:02 < L3gacy> It's o quiet here
23:02 < L3gacy> *so
23:02 < DomLS3> L3gacy: google
23:02 < DomLS3> seriously
23:03 < DomLS3> that's your best friend
23:03 < L3gacy> Google told me I touched it's no no
23:03 < DomLS3> Google secretly likes it
23:05 < CheckYourSix> Jesus Fuck. Microsoft O365 is the most retarded system. It won't even let me sign up. Says it needs additional identity verification. Call support. I call and wait 35 minutes on hold, talk to sales, zero clue what to do, they send me to billing. Billing says I need to talk to sales. Neither of them have a clue what to do. Why is it so hard just to sign up for a simple account? It obviously blacklisted either my IP or email or
23:05 < CheckYourSix> something cause I tried 3 different phone numbers for verification and it says call support.
23:05 < starbomba> oh you thought i was joking two days ago when you whined about this very thing and i told you microsoft's 2FA is irrevocably broken
23:05 < starbomba> you'll know it when i'm joking
23:06 < MillerBOSS> L3gacy 👉 Try http://slack.poshcode.org/ also I have a lot of video courses if you are interested on Plex I am willing to share with you
23:07 < admiralspark> MillerBOSS:
23:07 < MillerBOSS> admiralspark 👉 !!!
23:07 < admiralspark> tried to ping you Sat :P
23:08 < admiralspark> missed, so I went and started drinking and grilling
23:08 < MillerBOSS> Yeah I slept 25+ hours Saturday. I like doing that sometimes
23:08 < MillerBOSS> How did that work out?
23:08 < admiralspark> word man. I'm thinking I might do that tonight. Oh, did it sunday too, but started around noon, so I'm feeling all the happiness I borrowed come crashing down today
23:09 < MillerBOSS> That'll teach ya
23:09 < MillerBOSS> Teach ya to keep going!
23:09 < MillerBOSS> ;)
23:09 < admiralspark> hahahaaaaaa
23:09 < admiralspark> truth tho
23:09 < DomLS3> so sleepy
23:10 < DomLS3> going home in an hour, drowning myself in sushi and going into a food coma all night
23:11 < estranger> guys. i updated my router to use my own DNS server (pihole) and it works great on evertyhing except my motherfucking MBP.  I renew'd it's dhcp and it got the new DNS. system prefs shows the new DNS.. but it's still using my old DNS setting. wutgives
23:11 < starbomba> mac. nuff said.
23:11 < estranger> yeah
23:11 < starbomba> macs are the special education kids of computing
23:11 < estranger> what's a computer
23:12 < MillerBOSS> admiralspark 👉 But I am on the discord too
23:12 < MillerBOSS> I usually have that open
23:12 < estranger> osx is ok but it does weird shit and gets you stuck cus its too closed
23:12 < starbomba> case in point: when you have an OS built for a five-year-old to use, don't be surprised when five-year-olds hack it too. https://9to5mac.com/2018/05/14/apple-mail-security-flaw-encrypted-email/
23:12 < SleePy> cat /etc/resolv.conf
23:12 < rhqq> # Generated by NetworkManager
23:12 < rhqq> search zomgz.int
23:12 < rhqq> nameserver 1.1.1.1
23:12 < estranger> SleePy, when i change wifi networks it gets my new dns for a second.. then it gets updated with my old settings a few seconds later
23:13 < estranger> dunno from where
23:13 < starbomba> sounds like some sort of network manager gone awry
23:13 < estranger> i even rebooted :D
23:13 < starbomba> or
23:13 < starbomba> you left your old DHCP on
23:13 < SleePy> scutil --dns
23:13 < estranger> starbomba, nope, when i look at the dhcp settings on the mac it shows the right dns, and i double checked the old dhcp, and i see the mac showing up on the lease list for the pihole... but i see no dns requests from it
23:14 < estranger> OHHHHH
23:14 < SleePy> Also your wifi settings can override dchp options for dns
23:14 < estranger> OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
23:14 < estranger> its my vpn client
23:14 < estranger> SleePy, thx that command found the answer
23:14 < estranger> holy shit all my dns goes through my work vpn
23:14 < estranger> haha
23:14 < starbomba> that's one hell of a vpn client
23:15 < estranger> tht makes sense actually
23:15 < estranger> how else do you resolve internal stuff.  i need more sleep
23:15 < SleePy> Your computer did exactly what you told it to.  You just forgot what you told it to do
23:15 < estranger> basically yes :)
23:15 < estranger> user error
23:15 < estranger> starbomba, its a common setup so you can see internal dns
23:15 < SleePy> echo "ID=10T" /etc/system.ini
23:16 < admiralspark> > system.ini
23:16  * estranger hands SleePy a ">>"
23:16 < admiralspark> triggered
23:16 < SleePy> Thanks, I forgot to buy my supplies of >, kinda low
23:16 < estranger> admiralspark, way to break the rest of on your config!
23:16 < admiralspark> MillerBOSS: sorry, my machine with discord is at home and the invite expired by the time I got to it. I'll ping you again for a new one
23:17 < admiralspark> my discord name is the same as this
23:17 < admiralspark> estranger: hahahah
23:18 < mal_will> Alright, I need anecdotal edvice
23:18 < mal_will> advice*
23:18 < DomLS3> edvice
23:18 < DomLS3> lol
23:18  * DomLS3 puts on his hillbilly hat and sticks a hay straw in his mouth
23:18 < mal_will> I have my marketing team asking me to add e.companyname.com as a subdomain to send email from
23:18 < estranger> wow you cant disconnect this vpn client
23:18 < mal_will> I'm dyslexic, sry
23:19 < mal_will> but I can't honestly see why I'd bother doing that
23:19  * estranger changes his ldap password.  solved
23:19 < mal_will> Marketing dude is saying "what if .companyname.com gets blacklisted?"
23:19 < mal_will> I mean, so? I'd work to fix it?
23:19 < mal_will> Can't tell if he spits truth or nonsense
23:19 < mal_will> Google tells me people do this both ways
23:20 < pcspkr> it's better to send marketing shit from a different domain
23:20 < pcspkr> you don't want delivery issues for your actual valuable emails
23:21 < mal_will> I can see that argument, but I also am thinking-will they really break these boundaries?
23:22 < pcspkr> yes
23:22 < mal_will> I guess I hit the spam button gratuitously. I don't want any emails
23:23 < GreyKite> mal_will: your marketing people know they are about to do something shady and unwanted
23:23 < GreyKite> mal_will: this is their way of telling you, "fix this before we break everything"
23:23 < mal_will> It's possible
23:24 < mal_will> Man, I sure didn't want to make a tangly change this week
23:25 < Church-> Hmm, wonder how many people have rage quit here over the past year.
23:26 < mal_will> this channel?
23:28 < Church-> Yep.
23:28 < GreyKite> ...I know a few
23:28 < Church-> I can name some as well. :P
23:30 < mal_will> I see some who claimed they'd quit
23:30 < Sousapro> oh wow
23:30 < GreyKite> I've gone lurker a few times
23:31 < admiralspark> wait, why were people ragequitting?
23:31 < Sousapro> is it bad if a production domain only has 5 group policies objects, default domain policy and default domain controller policy are completely empty, two of the other ones were deleted directly from sysvol and the one working one is a WSUS policy?
23:31 < MillerBOSS> Because people get but hurt over stupid things
23:31 < MillerBOSS> And butthurt
23:32 < admiralspark> ahh
23:32 < admiralspark> Sousapro: is that rhetorical?
23:32 < pcspkr> Sousapro: restore the default gpo's
23:32 < admiralspark> Maybe they do it all in a batch file in NETLOGON
23:32 < mal_will> Also people who doxx to be shitty
23:32 < admiralspark> oh
23:32 < admiralspark> I suppose
23:32 < MillerBOSS> That was not dox'n Don't even fucking start
23:32 < mal_will> lol or go to other channels and spread the shit doxxing
23:33 < mal_will> It was
23:33 < mal_will> You chose repeatedly to divluge shit no one asked you to divulge, out of pettyness
23:34 < estranger> mal_will lives on earth!
23:34 < MillerBOSS> To be clear I did not dox anyone and saying someone is married to someone in this channel in another channel then precise copying that same text to another channel, falling me so far, is not dox'n kthxbye
23:34 < estranger> ill even narrow it down 29%... he lives on land
23:34 < MillerBOSS> Following*
23:34 < mal_will> You told people who I am married to
23:34 < estranger> im married ot my wife
23:34 < MillerBOSS> Not in here
23:34 < MillerBOSS> Get over it
23:35 < mal_will> you told the person I'm married to to handle me
23:35 < MillerBOSS>  /ignore mal_will
23:35 < mal_will> Blessed be
23:35 < pcspkr> /ignore
23:35 < starbomba> you're going to allow your marketing department to spam incessantly through a system you manage?
23:35 < mal_will> That guy is a chickenshit
23:35 < starbomba> hope your resume is up to date
23:35 < mal_will> they set it up before me
23:35 < starbomba> do you manage it?
23:35 < pcspkr> starbomba: but marketing bruh
23:35 < mal_will> today they asked me about it. I thought they didn't use this system for spam
23:36 < starbomba> marketing using emails = spam
23:36 < mal_will> I thought it was for opt ins and stuff
23:36 < starbomba> 100% of the time
23:36 < mal_will> No starbomba
23:36 < starbomba> i'm not asking
23:36 < starbomba> this is objective fact
23:36 < mal_will> Do you manage it? = no
23:36 < starbomba> oh
23:36 < starbomba> then fuck it
23:36 < starbomba> YOLO
23:36 < mal_will> They have a few systems for whatever reason
23:36 < starbomba> let 'em relegate the domain to the corners of blacklist hell
23:36 < estranger> id hate to manage any outgoing email system
23:36 < starbomba> then when they bitch, just laugh
23:36 < estranger> what a pain in the ass
23:37 < estranger> route all that shit through a paid service and let them deal w/ it
23:37 < SynMonger> no kidding
23:37 < mal_will> I mean, it's all outgoing
23:37 < mal_will> unless it's incoming
23:37 < estranger> almost every place has spam filtering.. and almost every spam filter provider includes outgoing email service
23:37 < starbomba> icann should formulate a rule that if you own a domain name and you get that domain name blacklisted across more than, say, 40% of large blacklist services, you are compelled to pay full retail price on a yearly basis for that domain in perpetuity
23:37 < estranger> mal_will, when your email server is delvering via mx records its a pain in the ass to keep everything not blacklisted etc
23:38 < SynMonger> we got blacklisted twice in a week over some loser sending a blast to students... I wanted to choke several people
23:38 < estranger> SynMonger, exactly.. the cost savings in using a service would prob be made up right there
23:38 < mal_will> We haven't been blacklisted before, so I was sort of surprised about this today
23:39 < SynMonger> if you've been blacklisted it gets progressively harder to get off the lists
23:40 < estranger> its a huge time sink keeping a mail server in good status
23:42 < Sousapro> admiralspark: maybe lol
23:43 < Sousapro> pcspkr: yeah, I'm going to do that but the two broken policies are what's keeping the SQL servers accessible so once I delete them, the firewalls will go back up and the people who set up those servers must have been braindead
23:43 < precise> MillerBOSS: Are you like that spermwhale at the NYC Zoo?
23:43 < starbomba> it gets easier if you discipline the people who use your email system to spam
23:43 < starbomba> my suggestion: chop off the right hand on the first offense
23:43 < starbomba> offense #2: the left hand goes
23:44 < Sousapro> end user training?
23:44 < Sousapro> :P
23:44 < starbomba> my policy is more effective
23:44 < grumplestiltzkin> starbomba: then they get voice recognition software and forehead-wants for typing
23:44 < starbomba> grump, that's why #3 means total decapitation
23:44 < starbomba> we've never had a 4th offense
23:44 < grumplestiltzkin> wands
23:51 < mal_will> lol starbomba I'll work on that policy now
23:51 < admiralspark> oh god who let precise back in
23:52 < mal_will> I feel bad, I really didn't want to make the subdomain so I was instantly like, "Nah, I don't want to"
23:52 < precise> admiralspark: I've been here longer than you fool.
23:52 < mal_will> but I'm seeing decent reasons
23:52 < precise> ;)
23:52 < admiralspark> ;)
23:52 < mal_will> precise: was born here
23:52 < Sousapro> Hatter: I have the HD6xx from a previous run and I really like them
23:52 < mal_will> in a pile of shit posts
23:52 < precise> mal_will: This is true
23:52 < admiralspark> precise IS #reddit-sysadmin
23:52 < precise> #reddit-sysadmin is actually #reddit-snekadmin
23:52 < precise> I just aliased it when I was born
23:52 < Sousapro> Hatter: if you get them and want more, hook them up to a nice amp and see if that fits your needs
23:53 < Sousapro> Hatter: I've stalled on buying new headphones since then lol
23:55 < xtensive> updating infrastructure, and it sounds like HCI is the new buzzword
23:58 < Sousapro> Hyper-converged = traditional server
23:58 < Sousapro> :P
23:58 <+NinjaStyle> Anyone is DFW?
23:58 <+NinjaStyle> In*
23:58 < xtensive> but now with more vSAN Sousapro :D
23:59 < Sousapro> NEEDS MORE vSAN
23:59 < SynMonger> god no
23:59 < Sousapro> who needs a real SAN when you can make a ghetto fake one
23:59 < xtensive> vSAN licensing is !@#$ expensive holy shit
23:59 < Sousapro> also costs as much as just buying a SAN
23:59 < Sousapro> not to be this guy but storage spaces direct
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