--- Log opened Tue May 15 00:00:20 2018 00:00 < scwizard> fucking gitlab man 00:00 < precise> s/git/math 00:00 < scwizard> sometimes pushes just randomly hang 00:00 < precise> rest in pepperoni layer-eight 00:00 < starbomba> hey NS how's tejas 00:00 < scwizard> this is gitlab.com tho 00:01 < scwizard> would probably be better if we selfhosted 00:01 < xtensive> ya that's kinda what I was thinking Sousapro like it's not muych more to buy an actual SAN 00:04 < Gencade`> `lucky 00:05 < rhqq> SWEEEEEEEET 00:05 < rhqq> there's going to be dell latitude with ryzen pro released <3 00:07 < silentfury> dell is going to add a grill to its laptops? :D 00:07 < rhqq> pfffft 00:07 < SynMonger> I'd go for a smoker 00:07 < silentfury> Sousapro: i wouldn't put your faith in Microsoft for storage AT ALL 00:07 < mal_will> It really does look like a super pain to get un-blacklisted 00:07 < rhqq> they're as cool as intels really 00:07 < rhqq> tpd is same 00:07 < mal_will> broiling is the way 00:08 < rhqq> a little lower cpu performance for a little better gpu performance 00:08 < rhqq> that's something that'll make my day 00:08 < rhqq> or a year 00:12 < mal_will> My AC thing is broken so I looked up its model number, like. "maybe I can fix this" 00:12 < mal_will> now I know how your average finance user feels about IT 00:12 < starbomba> i want a burger but my choices kinda suck 00:12 < joelazot> hello 00:12 < starbomba> i can get a $15 "gastropub" burger that is guaranteed awesome or i can get a $5 fast food pink slime special 00:12 < starbomba> or i could drive 30 min out of my way for 5 guys i guess 00:13 < joelazot> hmm 00:13 < joelazot> whats 5 guys 00:13 < starbomba> good chain burger place 00:13 < starbomba> huuuuge cups of fries 00:13 < starbomba> like comically large 00:14 < pcspkr> yuuuge 00:14 < precise> 5 guys is worth 30 minutes sometimes starbomba 00:15 < mal_will> depends how much they're paying you 00:15 < precise> heh 00:16 < starbomba> it might be. the rain seems to be coming back, though 00:16 < starbomba> so 30 min might turn into 90 like that 00:16 < precise> Hrm 00:20 < bomb> https://i.imgur.com/Eo39rFq.gif 00:20 < grumplestiltzkin> starbomba: it isn't so much 'a cup of fries' as it is 'put the burger and an empty cup n the bag - now fill the rest of the bag with fries' 00:20 < torquellini> joelazot: so comically huge that they fill up the cup of fried 00:21 < torquellini> then do the thing grumplestiltzkin said because goddamnit you had to ruin the fun of telling the story 00:21 < xtensive> bag fries mmmmm 00:21 < torquellini> and you have to dig through the fries to get to your burger 00:22 < torquellini> tbh fun the first time, but then you're just covered in grease 00:22 < SynMonger> and the burgers leak 00:22 < grumplestiltzkin> mooyah is basically the same thing. the stores even look the same. The only difference I remember between them are that mooyah has turkey burgers as an option (which don't taste like turkey burgers), and 5guys has those cajun fries 00:22 < torquellini> yeah, it's super messy to eat there but fucking delicious 00:23 < torquellini> you will not leave 5 guys dry and with your dignity intact 00:23 < SynMonger> meh 00:23 < xtensive> the cajun fries are delicious 00:24 < silentfury> peanut oil fries are better. 00:24 < torquellini> hey guys silentfury likes nut juice 00:24 < silentfury> it's just shitty MSG cajun seasoning 00:25 < xtensive> smashburger rosemary fries are a little better IMO 00:25 < silentfury> truffle parmesan ftw 00:25 < torquellini> smashburger fries is bae 00:25 < mal_will> peanut oil does make a good fry though 00:25 < mal_will> I think Chick fil a does peanut oil 00:25 < precise> I like the five guys cajun fries 00:25 < silentfury> so does five guys 00:25 < torquellini> they do 00:26 < torquellini> the whole place tastes like nuts 00:26 < admiralspark> precise: which area for the potatoes though 00:26 < grumplestiltzkin> iirc chick fil a did for..ever, but changed fairly recently because of possible allergies or something sily 00:26 < xtensive> waffle fries! hold 3x the ketchup 00:26 < mal_will> Woah they did? 00:26 < torquellini> I haven't been to chick fil a in years 00:26 < precise> admiralspark: Idaho 00:26 < precise> Always Idaho 00:26 < mal_will> It did always fuck with me that people could die from peanuts, but we keep using them in society 00:26 < grumplestiltzkin> mal_will: wat 00:26 < precise> I can die from water too 00:26 < precise> :P 00:26 < mal_will> but peanut butter cups, man 00:27 < silentfury> mal_will: why not? they have a choice whether to eat stuff with peanuts 00:27 < mal_will> peanut allergies kill people really quickly grumplestiltzkin 00:27 < precise> If I'm alergic to peanut's, that's how I'd kill myself, with peanut butter cups 00:27 < mal_will> like, a kiss from soneo ate a peanut can do it 00:27 < grumplestiltzkin> people can die or get shat upon by all kinds of allergies 00:27 < xtensive> that's pretty rare I think 00:27 < torquellini> have y'all ever scooped out the insides of a reeses 00:27 < mal_will> but peanuts are deadly so quickly 00:27 < torquellini> peanut allergies are more common than others though 00:27 < silentfury> take away my peanut sauce FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS 00:27 < mal_will> sometimes even an epipen won't save you 00:27 < SynMonger> peanut oil doesn't trigger peanut allergy 00:27 < torquellini> silent fury REALLY likes nuts 00:28 * precise jabs torquellini with his epipen 00:28 < torquellini> BEES 00:28 < mal_will> this seems wrong SynMonger 00:28 < precise> BEEEEES 00:28 < mal_will> but I'm not about to google 00:28 < precise> heh 00:28 < torquellini> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYtXuBN1Hvc 00:28 < mal_will> "burden of prooooffffF" 00:29 < torquellini> WHAT'S THIS, A PEACEFUL FAMILY PICNIC? 00:29 < torquellini> A SUDDEN INFLUX OF BEEEEEEEEEEEES OUGHT TO PUT A STOP TO THIS! 00:29 < grumplestiltzkin> mal_will: that's fine, but those select few with allergies should be the justification to annihilate a very inexpensive, protein rich food source? 00:30 < mal_will> I mean, we used to fee radium, I thnk? to people 00:30 < SynMonger> just wait until you get bitten by the tick that makes you allergic to meat 00:30 < torquellini> yeah but isn't radium universally poisonous? 00:30 < mal_will> so I get it, but also, you'd think we'd stop expanding on the peanut offerings a bit 00:30 < grumplestiltzkin> iirc 'radium allergy' wasnt the problem there 00:30 * precise unleashes torquellini's BEEEEEES 00:30 < xtensive> moar peanuts, the strong will survive 00:30 < mal_will> No, it's the blatant disregard for humans thing 00:30 < mal_will> in my radium example 00:30 < mal_will> and then pair it with we LOVE peanuts 00:30 < torquellini> I feel like lead would be a better example 00:31 < mal_will> can't really expect to have less peanuts 00:31 < mal_will> do we feed lead? 00:31 < mal_will> I guess paint and stuff kept getting used 00:31 < mal_will> toys 00:31 < torquellini> EPA rolling back regs on limiting lead currently 00:31 < grumplestiltzkin> lead doens't really have a replacement in a lot of applications. Is leadded paint still a thing? 00:31 < mal_will> woah, really torquellini ? 00:32 < precise> grumplestiltzkin: then we shall go without 00:32 < MillerBOSS> https://www.techmeme.com/180514/p17#a180514p17 >Google revamps consumer storage plans, now called Google One, adds $3/mo. tier for 200 GB, drops 2 TB plan price to $10/mo., and adds free product tech support 00:33 < SynMonger> hmm 00:33 < grumplestiltzkin> precise: fishing weights, balancing tires, firearm projectiles (which, yeah, there are alternatives, but they are expensive, and debatablely effective 00:33 < grumplestiltzkin> also avgas .. any non-street gasoline 00:33 < torquellini> mal_will: I may be wrong 00:33 < precise> Nerp 00:33 < MillerBOSS> Google One? Why another name off of Google Drive? 00:33 < precise> No more lead 00:33 < torquellini> I read it a couple months back 00:33 < mal_will> Ah true, people leaving slugs in the mountains, after shooting, that's been a problem 00:33 < precise> Just get rid of it 00:33 < precise> Remove it from periodic table 00:34 < mal_will> I'd believe it torquellini 00:34 < precise> Boom 00:34 < precise> Gone 00:34 < mal_will> Where's the eraser 00:34 < torquellini> everything I find says something different 00:34 < precise> Id use whiteout 00:34 < MillerBOSS> https://one.google.com/ 00:34 < torquellini> precise: what are you, thanos 00:34 < precise> But thatd make me a racist 00:34 < mal_will> "this is america" torquellini 00:34 < grumplestiltzkin> mal_will: well, has it been a problem? 00:34 < mal_will> yeah... 00:34 < grumplestiltzkin> what problem 00:34 < mal_will> it has been a problem 00:34 < grumplestiltzkin> I mean what bad thing is caused? 00:34 < precise> lead in the water table? 00:35 < mal_will> lead getting into ground water 00:35 < precise> Water supplies? 00:35 < precise> Geee IDK 00:35 < grumplestiltzkin> does lead not exist in nature? 00:35 < torquellini> neurotoxins exists in nature 00:35 < mal_will> also, not great for loggers 00:35 < xtensive> well so does uranium grumplestiltzkin 00:35 < precise> Lead is bad 00:35 < precise> mmkay? 00:35 < mal_will> if you shoot at trees, it can kill someone cutting said tree down when they're cutting implement hist it 00:35 < grumplestiltzkin> " precise has bee nknown to the state of california to cause cancer ' 00:36 < precise> Artificially introduced lead in a natural environment is horrible 00:36 < precise> mmkay? 00:36 < mal_will> their cutting implement hits* 00:36 < precise> grumplestiltzkin: U are wrong and have resorted to insults. 00:36 < torquellini> is lead being harmful to humans actually under question grumplestiltzkin? 00:36 < xtensive> wasn't there a study about less crazy people doing crazy things after they removed lead from gasoline? 00:36 < torquellini> I mean I get that it has a lot of practical applications 00:36 < precise> torquellini: #FAKENEWS 00:36 < precise> FLINT IS A HOAX 00:36 < sadbox> mal_will: also it's shitty for the tree 00:36 < precise> :| 00:37 < mal_will> this is true sadbox 00:37 < grumplestiltzkin> Are there any recorded instances of these things? 00:37 < precise> Oh what things? 00:37 < grumplestiltzkin> I mean, obviously injesting lead is bad for you 00:38 < precise> Please digress 00:38 < SynMonger> breathing it from leaded gasoline exhaust wasn't so great, either 00:38 < torquellini> grumplestiltzkin: https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/lead/publications/Educational_Interventions_Children_Affected_by_Lead.pdf 00:38 < mal_will> yes, there are 00:38 < precise> There's a reason we've been trying to phase lead out of modern society for 5 decades 00:38 < grumplestiltzkin> the injury due to lumberjack hitting a lead projectile that somehow stayed intact that is lodged in a tree 00:38 < torquellini> oh that 00:38 < xtensive> https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2013/01/03/how-lead-caused-americas-violent-crime-epidemic/#3e0e1c0512c4 00:39 < SynMonger> you can still buy leaded gasoline for aircraft engines, 100LL (low lead) 00:39 < precise> grumplestiltzkin: You just cherry picked one of our points and are trying to use it to negate our entire stance. 00:39 < xtensive> same for boats I think SynMonger 00:39 < mal_will> The nullified policy had a simple and good purpose: it was designed to stop the needless, incidental poisoning of millions of wild animals each year by lead that’s left behind in the routine pursuit of these field sports. https://blog.humanesociety.org/2017/03/trumps-interior-secretary-reverses-ban-lead-ammo-national-wildlife-refuges-first-official-act.html 00:39 < grumplestiltzkin> Im mostly talking about the ammo piece, like whatever justification california used to ban lead ammo 00:39 < xtensive> which seems like a really bad idea 00:40 < torquellini> yeah tbf mal_will that tree thing seems like an urban legend 00:40 < precise> "It doesn't hurt me, so why should it be banned?" 00:40 < mal_will> I've seen it happen 00:40 < grumplestiltzkin> precise: that 'cherry picked' thing was the only one I saw that had to do with what I was talking about. was there others? 00:40 < mal_will> ever shove a tree in a woodchipper and hear some bonus sounds? 00:40 < torquellini> I have never done this 00:41 < torquellini> I did get pelted by a rock from a lawnmower though 00:41 < precise> Yes, the link regarding violent crimes, my flint notion, the unleaded gasoline that was brought up, etc. 00:41 < precise> torquellini: I had a woodchip stick in my shin the other day 00:41 < precise> fuck that noise 00:41 < torquellini> but I don't think that would propel a bullet with enough force to kill 00:41 < torquellini> if a lawnmower flicking is any indication 00:41 < grumplestiltzkin> precise: yeah, but the violent crime was *because* of the unleaded gas, so those are the same thing - and was the flint water supply issue due to lead ammo being used? 00:41 < precise> Eh, a rock can probably get enough speed to cause some serious damage in the right circumstances. 00:42 < precise> grumplestiltzkin: If you want to select the lead ammo point, and dismiss all the others because thats easiest for you, go ahead. It just weakens your argument. 00:42 < grumplestiltzkin> er, was because of the leaded gas, apparently being remedied by switching to moslty having only unleaded available 00:42 < torquellini> I'm not even sure what point grumplestiltzkin is even arguing 00:43 < mal_will> ditto 00:43 * torquellini tosses a 64ct of crayons as a diversion 00:43 < grumplestiltzkin> what arguement? I was talking about ammo mostly - but sure, fishing weights and balancing tires too. 00:43 < mal_will> but I was told in gun control classes not to shoot at trees 00:43 < mal_will> I'm trying to find why 00:43 < precise> grumplestiltzkin is trying to make the point that we cant ditch lead. 00:43 < mal_will> apparently this is a sore subject 00:43 < precise> But we need to. 00:43 < precise> Yeah.. 00:43 < precise> grumplestiltzkin must workin the lead industry 00:43 < grumplestiltzkin> like peanuts? 00:43 < precise> lol 00:43 < torquellini> I don't think it's feasible to ditch lead entirely 00:43 < precise> torquellini: We should try though 00:44 < grumplestiltzkin> torquellini: thats what Im saying. it still has uses that we have no cost-effective replacement for 00:44 < torquellini> what about radiation shielding? 00:44 < precise> Simply saying, but these things can never be replaced otherwise, so we shouldn't do anything, is no way to progress. 00:44 < precise> That's my irk 00:44 < mal_will> the article I linked has some alternatives listed 00:44 < precise> We found out mercury was a problem, so we stopped making mercury thermometers 00:45 < precise> We need to do the same with lead 00:45 < torquellini> mal_will: which one 00:45 < sadbox> grumplestiltzkin: it's not like we don't have alternatives for fishing weights, bullets, or tire balancing things 00:45 < mal_will> I only linked one 00:45 < torquellini> isn't mercury still in flourescents 00:45 < mal_will> some 00:45 < precise> Some, yeah 00:45 < rhqq> yes 00:45 < rhqq> and is more dangerous 00:45 < grumplestiltzkin> sadbox: not as cost-effective, for now anyway 00:45 < rhqq> than the thermometers 00:45 < precise> grumplestiltzkin: Cost-effective according to producers. Yet then the consumer will suffer because of the possible exposure. 00:46 < torquellini> cost-effective is an argument maybe for taking progress slowly but not halting it altogether grumplestiltzkin 00:46 < precise> I know tons of people that would shell out extra for lead-free products. 00:46 < precise> It's been 50 years 00:46 < mal_will> Why not shoot trees? to not hurt the trees, ricochet? whaaaaat? https://www.fs.fed.us/visit/know-before-you-go/shooting 00:46 < sadbox> grumplestiltzkin: I'll take spending an extra $.25 over covering the world w/ little bits of lead 00:46 < torquellini> sadbox: + 00:47 < grumplestiltzkin> sadbox: you can. right now. you can buy lead-free ammo 00:47 < grumplestiltzkin> its just more expensive 00:47 < sadbox> bullets aren't necessary, tire weights you buy sooo rarely, and fishing weight aren't necessary 00:47 < grumplestiltzkin> like 2-3x iirc 00:47 < torquellini> eh sadbox tbh I have way more luck catfishing with weights 00:47 < sadbox> grumplestiltzkin: I do, and everyone should too, which is why there should be a law 00:47 < sadbox> making you do it 00:47 < precise> "but mah guns" 00:47 < mal_will> cat fish with your hands, fancy boys! 00:47 < torquellini> but I would bet my shoes that I can buy nonlead fishing weights 00:48 < grumplestiltzkin> torquellini: and like - literally *any* trotline 00:48 < precise> You can 00:48 < sadbox> torquellini: I more mean that fishing is not a thing you need to do 00:48 < sadbox> rather than weights being unnecessary in the pursuit of it 00:48 < grumplestiltzkin> torquellini: same same, you can, but more expensive 00:48 < precise> So fuckin what 00:48 < torquellini> grumplestiltzkin: yea, so 00:48 < precise> Progress > Money 00:48 < torquellini> + 00:48 < grumplestiltzkin> lol. sadbox telling everyone what we need to do and not do 00:48 < torquellini> drinking clean water is more expensive than creek water full of animal turds 00:49 < torquellini> I'll take the non-turd water tyvm 00:49 < sadbox> grumplestiltzkin: if you're fuckin' up the environment I'm OK with telling you not to 00:49 < torquellini> sadbox: I'm still gonna go fishing tho 00:49 < grumplestiltzkin> sadbox: no, you said 'no shooting, no fishing' 00:49 < sadbox> shared resources and all that 00:49 < precise> grumplestiltzkin: Bro, you lost 00:49 < grumplestiltzkin> lost what? 00:49 < precise> The argument, just stop. 00:49 < precise> Lead is bad 00:49 < sadbox> grumplestiltzkin: I did not say that, I said shooting is not a thing you -have- to do, so I'm not gonna make exceptions for people saving money while doing it 00:50 * torquellini tosses another 64 count of crayola with the sharpener in the box 00:50 < precise> We should get rid of lead in production. 00:50 < grumplestiltzkin> [17:44] torquellini: I more mean that fishing is not a thing you need to do 00:50 < ThatOneRoadie> I mean, I fish by shooting 00:50 < precise> grumplestiltzkin: He's not telling you not to fish 00:50 < ThatOneRoadie> so my day is ruined 00:50 < precise> He's saying you dont need to 00:50 < ThatOneRoadie> ballistic fishing though :( 00:50 < precise> Go ahead 00:50 < precise> Fish your heart out 00:50 < torquellini> his point is grumplestiltzkin is that if it's not a necessity, cost is less of an issue 00:50 <+NinjaStyle> D: 00:50 < precise> But just because you want to fish, doesn't mean I should need to deal with your lead 00:50 < mal_will> it's not a need, exactly 00:50 < grumplestiltzkin> precise: htat sure reads like hes saying don't fish. 00:51 < precise> No 00:51 < precise> Its not 00:51 < precise> lol 00:51 < mal_will> oh hi NinjaStyle 00:51 < precise> Oh hai Mark 00:51 < torquellini> grumplestiltzkin: pls to learn how to critical reading 00:51 < precise> ^ 00:51 <+NinjaStyle> oh hai 00:51 * precise looks up grep syntax 00:51 < precise> We like 25 minutes in 00:51 < mal_will> dang ol...neat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdUWeynln2k 00:51 < precise> TFW I'm grepping /~ 00:51 < grumplestiltzkin> following that train of thought - nobody needs to fish? so we all just stop eating fish? I'm trying to understand here 00:52 < torquellini> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=context 00:52 < mal_will> I mean, I'm not for fish 00:52 < ThatOneRoadie> I mean, it's true 00:52 < precise> lol 00:52 < precise> grumplestiltzkin: Go ahead 00:52 < ThatOneRoadie> nobody *needs* to eat meat 00:52 < precise> Fish 00:52 < Gencade`> we should only eat kelp shakes 00:52 < mal_will> but fish farms don't use lead weight probably 00:52 < ThatOneRoadie> but mmmmmmm bacon though 00:52 < torquellini> damn grumplestiltzkin bby do you know how to take sentences into context of the surrounding information 00:52 < ThatOneRoadie> Oh, fish farms don't use lead weight 00:52 < ThatOneRoadie> usually the nets are permanently installed 00:52 < mal_will> Yeah 00:52 < sadbox> ThatOneRoadie: indeed they don't 00:52 < torquellini> your mom is permanently installed 00:53 < mal_will> they probably just scoop 00:53 < ThatOneRoadie> and the weights are usually stainless steel, for corrosion resistance 00:53 < precise> lol 00:53 < precise> torquellini: ^ 00:53 < ThatOneRoadie> yeah, they just wholesale bring the entire net up when they harvest 00:53 < mal_will> no necessity vs hobby comes into play 00:53 < mal_will> and if it's a hobby, maybe buy the stainless weights 00:53 < sadbox> grumplestiltzkin: If it's a hobby then I care a lot less about keeping the costs down 00:53 < grumplestiltzkin> torquellini: I sure do, but man - srs - someone telling someone else that he doesn't *need* to do something. 00:53 < precise> grumplestiltzkin: Bruh 00:53 < mal_will> You wouldn't use rose arts to paint a portrait of your mailman 00:54 < precise> I only use Crayola 00:54 < torquellini> ok grumplestiltzkin but *do* you need to fish? 00:54 < torquellini> do you know anyone that does? out of actual necessity? 00:54 <+NinjaStyle> am sleepy 00:54 < precise> I don't think that even matters torquellini 00:54 < torquellini> precise: bby do you know how to diplomacy 00:54 < precise> He can fish, who cares. But just because you want to fish, doesn't mean I should have to deal with his lead. 00:54 < precise> torquellini: No. 00:54 < precise> ;) 00:55 < rhqq> lol, chill with the lead thing 00:55 * precise throws smallpox blankets at #r-s 00:55 < Gencade`> precise: you cry a lot 00:55 < torquellini> that's a winkyface Gencade` 00:55 < precise> pleb 00:55 < mal_will> That was a fun 20 minutes 00:55 < precise> Yeah 00:55 < torquellini> wait if I'm talking in r-s... 00:55 < Gencade`> can we move on? 00:55 < grumplestiltzkin> its called subsistence hunting/fishing iirc and you don't need a license. No, I don't know anyone personally that needs to fish. I do know many who use venison instead of beef most of the year 00:55 < mal_will> who are you pipiopi 00:55 < pipiopi> NOW YOU KNOW WHO I AM 00:55 < pipiopi> do---dohhhhhhh 00:55 < precise> pipiopi: new phone, who dis? 00:55 <+NinjaStyle> who the fuck is pipiopi 00:56 < pipiopi> maaaaaaan 00:56 < precise> ;) 00:56 < mal_will> fuck that guy pipiopi 00:56 < ThatOneRoadie> tbf if you're pulling drinking water from a surface source 00:56 <+NinjaStyle> pipiopi: jmjm :) 00:56 < ThatOneRoadie> you're prooooooooobabaly getting more than lead in it 00:56 < ThatOneRoadie> proooooooooooooooobably* 00:56 < mal_will> gross ThatOneRoadie 00:56 < ThatOneRoadie> I wouldn't be surprised to see some ppm of asbestos in it 00:56 < pipiopi> ok now how about this grumplestiltzkin 00:57 < sadbox> grumplestiltzkin: if we're gonna make our laws based solely on people who hunt for their own food we're gonna have a bad time 00:57 < rhqq> i wouldnt be afraid of using lead pipes for my water system 00:57 < Nightcinder> http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/fl-tesla-crash-friday-20180511-story.html this shit hurts my head 00:57 < rhqq> lead is difficult to give you poisoning 00:57 < rhqq> like, really 00:57 < Nightcinder> who gives a kid a fucking supercar 00:57 < pipiopi> the more people who switch to nonlead implements will increase the demand and thus the production of nonlead items 00:57 < grumplestiltzkin> sadbox: I never said make laws because of that. I was asked if I know anyone who [basically] sibsistance fishes 00:57 < grumplestiltzkin> *sub 00:57 < ThatOneRoadie> Nightcinder: Affluenza 00:57 < Nightcinder> “It’s ridiculous that in 2018 they are making cars that are plush and modern but not safe,” she said. “I loved my nephew. He was wonderful. I want every car company in America to hear my plea.” 00:58 < ThatOneRoadie> also all teslas are not supercars 00:58 < Nightcinder> In that incident, a Broward sheriff’s deputy used radar to track his gray Tesla traveling at 112 mph in a 50 mph zone near Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport, according to the citation. 00:58 < rpifan> hi 00:58 < sadbox> grumplestiltzkin: FWIW, I do know people who do that, I grew up in the boonies in AR 00:58 < pipiopi> supply of nonlead could then pass up the supply of lead implements 00:58 < rpifan> ThatOneRoadie, you going to bonaroo 00:58 < ThatOneRoadie> The P85D/P90D/P100D sure 00:58 < ThatOneRoadie> those are supercars 00:58 < ThatOneRoadie> the regular 100D/90D/75D are not 00:58 < sadbox> make an exception fo rthem or something, but it's a rounding error 00:58 < grumplestiltzkin> pipiopi: yeah, that barrier to entry for new tech is real. just like electric cars IIRC 00:58 < pipiopi> price *could* then be justified in going down 00:58 < Nightcinder> it was a 2014 model s but if it's a P wasn't listed 00:58 < mal_will> why does everyone want visio? 00:58 < ThatOneRoadie> also the 2014 Teslas are cheap now 00:58 < ThatOneRoadie> like <30k 00:58 < Nightcinder> but the father had to limit it to 85mph 00:58 < pipiopi> mal_will: because diagrams and MS paint sucks 00:58 < mal_will> I see maybe one visio creation for every 25 installs 00:58 < Nightcinder> because the kid was stupid 00:59 < pipiopi> oh yeah we are pretty bitchy about our installs 00:59 < ThatOneRoadie> also I'm pretty sure that's misleading 00:59 < mal_will> I think people think it sounds neat, then they try to make one and are unprepared so they never touch it again 00:59 < ThatOneRoadie> "...Tesla loaner cars had an 85 mph maximum speed" 00:59 < Nightcinder> what's misleading? 00:59 < pipiopi> your mom was misleading last night 00:59 < Nightcinder> no 00:59 < ThatOneRoadie> yes, because they're in valet mode 00:59 < Nightcinder> he had tesla set it to 85mph 00:59 < Nightcinder> Pat Riley said her brother, James, knew that Tesla loaner cars had an 85 mph maximum speed. So after Barrett was cited in March, his first traffic offense, the father asked Tesla to adjust the car’s top velocity. 00:59 < mal_will> That's smart to nerf it 00:59 < ThatOneRoadie> tbh I'm not entirely sure they *can* do that 00:59 < grumplestiltzkin> ThatOneRoadie: thats nowish - the barrier is real. it took how many years, and how manu subsidies to prop it up for it to get past that barrier? 00:59 < Nightcinder> well the article claims they did 01:00 < Nightcinder> it's just software 01:00 < Nightcinder> shouldn't be terribly hard 01:00 < ThatOneRoadie> he might've had one of the little monitor things, and I know it could be changed in software, but It'd be a bitch to do 01:00 <+NinjaStyle> Nightcinder: just like java 01:00 < Nightcinder> lol 01:00 < Nightcinder> i imagine tesla has to have some way to do it 01:00 < ThatOneRoadie> he probably had one of those little insurance monitor things that lets him know when the car exceeds 85mph 01:00 < Nightcinder> Intervening to limit a car’s speed has become an increasingly popular option among new car owners, especially for cars driven by teenagers, said Karl Brauer, executive publisher at Autotrader and Kelley Blue Book. 01:00 < Nightcinder> Since these cars are controlled by sensors and signals, it’s fairly easy to reprogram them to control speeds, he said. 01:00 < ThatOneRoadie> Nightcinder: I know for a fact they do, it'd just be a bitch to put on a customer car 01:01 < ThatOneRoadie> The MCU and Gateway aren't set up for it on loaners 01:01 < ThatOneRoadie> on non-loaners* 01:01 < Nightcinder> idk 01:01 < ThatOneRoadie> but that can be fixed with a remote firmware flash I suppose 01:01 < ThatOneRoadie> and yeah 01:01 < ThatOneRoadie> that article was written by someone who said "Sure, it's an electric car, so it must be simple" 01:02 < mal_will> that's a quote? 01:02 < ThatOneRoadie> and/or "It's a new tech car, let's ask some people who have the word "Auto" in their job title 01:02 < Nightcinder> lol 01:02 < mal_will> I saw a person in a subreddit list themselves as a $tvshowname specilist 01:02 < ThatOneRoadie> "It’s ridiculous that in 2018 they are making cars that are plush and modern but not safe" 01:02 < ThatOneRoadie> lmao 01:03 < mal_will> like, I guess I can't tell you you aren't a specialist in that tv show 01:03 < ThatOneRoadie> average auto fatality rate in a car in the US is 1 in 80 million miles 01:03 < rpifan> so hackmiami is this weekend 01:03 < ThatOneRoadie> in a Tesla it's 1 in something like 340 million miles 01:03 < rpifan> who is coming 01:03 < mal_will> but. it's a cheap victory I hope 01:03 <+NinjaStyle> nothing moving 100mph into a wall is safe 01:03 < ThatOneRoadie> yep 01:03 < rpifan> czarbomba, 01:03 < rpifan> u coming 01:03 < ThatOneRoadie> but a tesla gives you about the best chance 01:03 < ThatOneRoadie> Someone went at 65mph into the back of a fire truck 01:03 < ThatOneRoadie> he walked away with a broken ankle 01:03 < ThatOneRoadie> well, limped 01:03 < mal_will> “Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you.”― Jeremy Clarkson 01:04 < rpifan> lol 01:04 < mal_will> s/JeremyClarkson/Spiderman/ 01:04 < ThatOneRoadie> s/Spiderman/Abraham Lincoln 01:04 < mal_will> that dang space 01:05 < ThatOneRoadie> Corrected numbers per NHTSA: Average automotive fatality in the US: 1 every 86 million miles. In a Tesla: 1 in 320 million miles. 01:09 < sadbox> ThatOneRoadie: I wonder how that compares to other luxury cars 01:09 < m4221> You all fail 01:10 < sadbox> m4221: get back to work 01:10 < m4221> sadbox: you need a mcds happy box 01:10 < precise> m4221: Go home 01:11 < precise> GO HOME 01:11 < precise> NOW 01:11 < precise> GO 01:11 * precise fights m4221 in #donger 01:11 < rhqq> oh noes, it's him again 01:12 < m4221> rhqq: fuck you 01:12 < precise> 19:12 <@dongerdong> precise REKT m4221 01:12 < mal_will> a happy box m4221 ? 01:12 < rhqq> m4221: fuck you too <3 01:12 < m4221> rhqq: in your room or mine? 01:13 < m4221> :p 01:13 < rhqq> bench in the park 01:13 < rhqq> im feeling frisky 01:13 < precise> r u my cat 01:13 < rhqq> nah, last thing you'll ever see in your life 01:14 < precise> my cat? 01:14 < rhqq> ugh, nevermind 01:14 < rhqq> precise: your nick is colored same way as m4221s 01:15 < rhqq> so disregard 01:15 < rhqq> :E 01:15 < precise> lmao 01:15 < rhqq> ya, it's already past 1am 01:15 < m4221> rhqq: I am offended at your saying that I am colored 01:15 < precise> nice b8 m8 01:15 < rhqq> :E 01:16 < m4221> rhqq: whatchu got against black people? 01:16 < rhqq> well, you're purple to me 01:16 * precise looks at JollyRgrs 01:16 < precise> JollyRgrs called me purple when I was drunk the other night 01:16 < precise> I'm still confused 01:16 < precise> Even after reading logs 01:17 * m4221 slaps rhqq 01:17 * precise hands rhqq his smacking trout 01:17 < precise> pls do the needful 01:17 < rhqq> m4221: you hit like a girl 01:17 * m4221 gets quad damage 01:18 < rhqq> well 4 times 0 is still 0 01:18 < precise> m4221: You should stretch more 01:18 < precise> If you hurt your quads by smacking 01:18 < rhqq> haha 01:18 * m4221 makes rhqq's stuff divide by 0 01:19 * precise dissolves into the plain of impossibility 01:19 < rpifan> https://www.hackmiami.com/schedule-hackmiami-conference-6 01:20 < rhqq> ugh, ubuntu 18.04 is taking 10times more time to load than 15.04 :/ 01:24 < voidstar> 18.04 is strange man 01:24 < rhqq> yeah 01:24 < voidstar> I'm sticking to 16.04 for a while 01:24 < rhqq> well, i installed it on 10 year old laptop 01:24 < rhqq> only because i need some deb packages from weird sources to upgrade my lte modem 01:26 < precise> voidstar: 16.04 is a solid release 01:26 < precise> I like 14.04 tho 01:26 < rhqq> btw, i use arch 01:26 < rhqq> :P 01:26 < precise> Excuse me 01:26 < precise> 12.04 01:26 < precise> Man, it's been a minute 01:27 < precise> How do you know someone uses Arch? 01:27 < precise> Don 01:27 < precise> Don't worry, they will tell you. 01:27 < rhqq> yeah :P 01:27 < rhqq> i was referencing to that 01:27 < precise> Sometimes you cant tell 01:27 < precise> ;) 01:27 < rhqq> ah, well 01:27 < rhqq> true 01:27 < rhqq> :D 01:27 < JollyRgrs> hey precise did you hear about the vegan vapor-ing arch user? 01:27 < rpifan> yes 01:28 < rpifan> i knew her 01:28 < rhqq> you forgot about crossfit 01:29 < voidstar> must live in seattle 01:33 < precise> Ok, question time. Ugly bash command, why would this result in a 69GB file when the source to search in is 1.5GB? 01:33 < precise> grep -Friw --context=1 --color=always 'doot' * | cut -c31- | aha --black > doot.html 01:35 < rhqq> what does `aha` do 01:36 < precise> It converts the output to HTML, taking the colors flag in the grep command in to account. 01:36 < precise> Makes reading easier 01:36 < precise> Is a neat tool 01:36 < rpifan> doot doot 01:36 < rhqq> well, never used browser :P 01:36 < precise> rpifan: thank 01:36 < precise> rhqq: It's 1.5GB source, results are often hundreds of lines 01:36 < precise> ;) 01:36 < rhqq> i can see 3 times more output, but not 69g 01:36 < precise> Yeah 01:37 < rhqq> but then html 01:37 < precise> Not even close 01:37 < rhqq> depends how much overhead is the html 01:37 < rpifan> thank coocoo 01:37 < precise> I used to use this command all the time 01:37 < precise> The overhead was minimal 01:37 < precise> The context flag offers more overhead 01:37 < rhqq> yeah, 01:37 < rhqq> and youre cutting out fields so 01:37 < rhqq> that should be minimal anyway 01:38 < precise> Oh hey 01:38 < rhqq> youre doing a recursive search, any chance you have some more directories? 01:38 < precise> rhqq: It is recursive 01:38 < rhqq> du -shx * ? 01:38 < precise> I just dropped the * and it finished at 12M 01:39 < rhqq> yeah 01:39 < precise> rhqq: Yeah, the grep source is only 1.5GB, IDK why the * in the original command caused it to do that 01:39 < precise> Perhaps it was navigating in parent directories? 01:39 < rhqq> i doubt 01:39 < precise> But I doubt there were that many instances of said string on my linux box 01:39 < rhqq> whats the `du` output ? 01:39 < precise> lmfao 01:40 < precise> I'd rather not past it, but It confirms the directory is 1.5GB 01:40 < precise> *paste 01:40 < rhqq> ok ok 01:40 < rhqq> weird 01:40 < precise> It works tho 01:40 < precise> That's wierd 01:41 * precise opens a 12MB html file in firefox 01:41 < precise> Animal abuse 01:41 < rhqq> whats the purpose of browsing 12mb file anyway 01:41 < precise> rhqq: It's how I work :P I go from there and then use the context I find in those results to narrow down searches further. 01:42 < precise> Don't ask what I'm searching ;) 01:42 < rhqq> i'd grep until i end up with 2kb file 01:43 < precise> rhqq: But, if you don't know exactly what your looking for.... 01:43 < precise> ;) 01:43 < rhqq> if you say so :P 01:43 < rhqq> well, i'll have such task soon actually 01:44 < rhqq> we have 16gb/day traffic we dont really know whether its legitimate or not 01:44 < precise> Source? Destination? 01:44 < rhqq> imma say hi to nginx logs 01:44 < rhqq> well, it's spread evenly 01:44 < rhqq> i'm 403ing all the most common bots already (including search spiders etc, we dont need that) 01:45 < rhqq> we're behind cloudflare, so all common vectors are covered anyway 01:45 < precise> rhqq: Just scrape host IPs in #r-s and block those, you dont want that 01:45 < rhqq> yet still, 16gb a day in seemingly normal traffic 01:46 < rhqq> what? 01:47 < precise> rhqq: Was a joke 01:47 < precise> rhqq: Describing #reddit-sysadmin as a hive of scum and villainy that you don't want on your website. 01:47 < rhqq> ah 01:47 < precise> Just scrape our host IPs and block those 01:47 < precise> ;) 01:47 < rhqq> :P 01:47 < rhqq> yeah, makes more sense now, as i said earlier, it's late here 01:48 < precise> rhqq: I get it 01:48 < precise> Kinda like when JollyRgrs called me purple while I was drunk 01:48 < precise> JollyRgrs: WTF DID U MEAN 01:48 < rhqq> well, you're purple to me now 01:48 < rhqq> ;p 01:49 < precise> ok 01:49 < precise> I'm ok with this 01:49 * precise looks at JollyRgrs 01:49 < precise> Get in here u nazi mod 01:49 < precise> esplain urself 01:49 < JollyRgrs> precise: just weechat things 01:49 < precise> Wot 01:49 < precise> JollyRgrs: y did u call me purple 01:50 < JollyRgrs> on my screen you are 01:50 < JollyRgrs> but you called ME purple, first 01:50 < enix> Fuck I'll be happy to rid myself of this place 01:50 < enix> Two major issues are open at the moment, and I get scolded for asking a question about them 01:50 < precise> JollyRgrs: Oh, Oh... lol 01:50 < rhqq> JollyRgrs: you're more like a plum colored to me 01:50 < precise> aight 01:50 < enix> Right after I was told "oh yeah we've had this before" 01:50 < precise> JollyRgrs: We good, sorry I called u a nazi mod 01:50 < TuxedoJack> Goddamn fucking RETARD! Who the FUCK gives the main helldesk number out to fucking O365 support as the main ticket contact number WHEN HE FUCKING KNOWS IT GOES TO GODDAMN FUCKING VOICEMAIL AFTER 5 AND THEIR POLICY IS TO NOT GIVE FUCKING CALLBACK NUMBERS 01:50 < enix> LOL 01:51 < rhqq> =] 01:51 * precise twitches 01:51 < precise> TuxedoJack: I'm sorry. 01:51 * precise hands TuxedoJack his drink of choice. 01:51 < TuxedoJack> Meanwhile, someone's been fucking with the fucking Azure AD replicator DC at another client, so it won't fucking talk outside the hypervisor 01:52 < TuxedoJack> And guess what fucking DC is set as authoritative for that site? 01:52 < TuxedoJack> WHICH HOSTS THE FUCKING TERMINAL SERVERS 01:52 < TuxedoJack> WHICH DON'T ACCEPT CACHED CREDENTIALS 01:52 < precise> fucking count = 9 01:52 < TuxedoJack> So now no one, AT ALL, __ENTERPRISE WIDE__, can remote into the fucking RDP server! 01:52 < rhqq> 10 01:52 < precise> nice 01:53 < precise> Also, the other day I learned that if you drink spensive drinks and someone buys you a drink and then ask, wtf are you drinking after hearing the price, its funny and horrible. 01:53 * rpifan thinks uncle has been smoking something 01:53 < rpifan> apparently he wants to come up with smellovision 01:53 < rpifan> for the interent 01:53 < precise> Bruh 01:53 < precise> I read a book like that once 01:53 < precise> Some kids book 01:53 < precise> Kids family was rich because dad invented way to send smells of the webs 01:54 < voidstar> there was a company that made a game that includes a smell component/contraption 01:54 < voidstar> I think it was a southpark game actually 01:54 < precise> There are some producers that thought 4D movies with scratch n' sniffs was a good idea 01:54 <@cryptic1> evening 01:54 < precise> Hi cryptic1 01:55 <@cryptic1> hey 01:55 < voidstar> oh, it was the fractured but whole, the device was called the nosulus rift 01:55 < precise> How u doin 01:56 <@cryptic1> How YOU Doin 01:56 < rpifan> lol 01:56 * precise blushes 01:56 < rpifan> like dr fransworths smelloscope 01:57 < czarbomba> TIL every single armenian male in the world looks almost exactly like a member of system of a down 01:58 < ThatOneRoadie> welp 01:58 < ThatOneRoadie> probably terminating on this house that I've got under contract 01:58 < czarbomba> homelessness in 3...2... 01:58 < rpifan> czarbomba, u coming to hack mamiami conference thing 01:58 < ThatOneRoadie> eh, not homeless 01:58 < enix> ThatOneRoadie: will you have a home? 01:58 < ThatOneRoadie> I'll just go month-to-month on the place I rent when the lease is up at the end of juneish 01:59 < czarbomba> rpifan unfortunately i won't have any time to myself during business hours for the next six months 01:59 < darkscrypt> how u doin! 01:59 < enix> fransworth lol 01:59 < czarbomba> can't the landlord just boot you out once your lease is over 01:59 < enix> rpifan: fransworth 01:59 < ThatOneRoadie> and if they decline to go month-to-month I'll move about an hour north and go do the trope thing of living in my parents' basement 01:59 < czarbomba> lol ah 01:59 < czarbomba> suicide is an option, too 01:59 < rpifan> its on the wekekend 01:59 < enix> ThatOneRoadie: honestly parents basement would be #1 option 01:59 < enix> ThatOneRoadie: think of how hacker that is 01:59 < czarbomba> rpifan, "business hours" for me is 7 days a week 7am-7pm 01:59 < ThatOneRoadie> only if I have like 7 screens 02:00 < rpifan> oh sad 02:00 < enix> I've looked into eight... it breaks the law of uneven monitors and it's very expensive, but goddamn it looks good 02:00 < czarbomba> 7 screens, a $42,000 stereo system, a grow operation, and a neckbeard 02:00 < ThatOneRoadie> I'll have to stop trimming my beard 02:00 < sadbox> czarbomba: so, on the note of suicide 02:00 < ThatOneRoadie> and meh, no grow op for me 02:00 < sadbox> my neighbor at my last apartment offed themselves 02:00 < ThatOneRoadie> not a fan of the marijuanas 02:00 < enix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn4gkwYc5g0 02:01 < rpifan> lol 02:01 < sadbox> It was a real bummer watching the parents find the body 02:01 < czarbomba> more for me 02:01 < czarbomba> sadbox, but you got a mad rent discount right? 02:01 < sadbox> naw, it's california 02:01 < czarbomba> whaaaa 02:01 < sadbox> they had it cleaned up and rented to someone new in like a month 02:01 < czarbomba> aqre suicides so prevalent in california that people are like OH DEAD BODY APT BFD 02:02 < sadbox> more like housing is so expensive / hard to find that -someone- won't give a fuck 02:02 < czarbomba> i guess suicide houses in california are like incest houses in florida 02:02 < czarbomba> it happens so often you just sorta accept it 02:02 < sadbox> I was tossing some trash out and saw the dad sitting there w/ a box of pictures 02:02 < ThatOneRoadie> no surprise in SFO 02:02 < enix> tbh you tell a hipster or someone that someone died in that house, they'll proabbly pay more 02:02 < sadbox> he'd take each one 02:02 < sadbox> look at it, sigh deeply 02:02 < precise> WTF are we talking about? 02:03 < sadbox> then toss it in the trash 02:03 < sadbox> precise: how even a suicide can't get you a discount on your rent in CA 02:03 < precise> Oh 02:03 < precise> Seems morbid 02:03 < enix> precise: i was going to say your mum, but that would be very tasteless 02:03 < ThatOneRoadie> quite 02:03 * precise inserts sneks into the channel 02:04 < precise> ssssssssssssss 02:04 * ThatOneRoadie step on snek 02:04 < sadbox> ssssssssssssssuicide 02:04 < precise> nuuui 02:04 < enix> I'm tired of these goddamn sneks on this goddamn chet 02:04 < silentfury> ./mothafuckin 02:04 < silentfury> gotta quote SLJ verbatim man 02:04 < voidstar> `bringbacklayer-eight 02:05 < voidstar> oh, hey 02:05 < voidstar> `sjw 02:05 < voidstar> who turned that off? 02:05 < precise> Bring back layer-8 02:05 < precise> OG bot 02:05 < precise> Like and Share if you remember layer-8 02:05 < voidstar> layer-nine, gotta get HR involved 02:05 < precise> THUMBS UP! 02:05 < enix> silentfury: 100% sorry looking at 10 things at once 02:05 < enix> lol 02:05 < precise> GO WINNIPEG! 02:05 < precise> WOOOOOO 02:06 < ThatOneRoadie> FUCK WINNIPEG GO KNIGHTS 02:06 < enix> how the fuck do i have so much music 02:07 < enix> Something like 100GB worth 02:07 < silentfury> as a canadian i want jets to win 02:07 < silentfury> as a hockey fan i want to see knights win 02:07 < enix> I have more music than some of our clients (radio) 02:07 < ThatOneRoadie> real talk though winnipeg fans are awesome and the team is great and as a canadian I'm conflicted because vegas is the most canadian team in the NHL and I'd be happy if either team made it to the SCF 02:08 < precise> silentfury: ++ 02:09 < precise> ThatOneRoadie: ++ 02:09 < precise> Which ever one can beat the Caps 02:09 < precise> Fuck the Caps 02:09 < silentfury> i just love the epic saga of an expansion team winning the cup in their first season 02:09 < silentfury> FUCK THE CAPS AND OVY 02:09 < ThatOneRoadie> I mean, I want the caps to go to the SCF 02:09 < precise> AND WILSON 02:09 < ThatOneRoadie> just because fuck tampa bay 02:09 < precise> FUCK WILSON 02:09 < ThatOneRoadie> and then I want either of the west teams to win 02:09 < precise> Tampa is much to south to have a hockey team 02:09 < precise> No business in the game 02:10 < silentfury> ideally i'd want Jets/Knights in the final 02:10 < silentfury> but cant haev everything 02:10 < ThatOneRoadie> I want to see Vegas vs Caps 02:10 < precise> silentfury: I've been secretly hoping that Caps and Lightning just get into a big brawl and get DQed 02:10 < precise> They've been fighting a bit as of late 02:10 < ThatOneRoadie> I don't think even a bench brawl with a goalie fight in every game would DQ them 02:11 < ThatOneRoadie> it didn't DQ colorado or detroit for damn near a decade 02:11 < precise> And then the Penguins come down to the rink with Sidney Crosby in hand, climb the cell, and throw the Knights off the Hell in the Cell through a table. 02:12 < precise> AND THE SNEKS RED GLARE 02:12 < precise> THAT OUR SNEK WAS STILL THERE 02:12 < precise> A SSSSSAY DOES THAT SNEK SPANGLED BANNER YET WAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE 02:13 < precise> Ok im done 02:13 * precise hides from the mods 02:13 < precise> Niiiiiiiiiisssssse 02:13 < precise> OOOOOOOH CAAAAAAAAAAAAANADAAAAAAa 02:13 < precise> wtf did 37 just do>? 02:14 < precise> Anyone see that? 02:14 < precise> Had a siezure or something 02:14 < Snekpro> my tis of thee? 02:14 < enix> precise: he heard your chanting probly 02:14 < precise> enix: lol 02:14 < precise> "clickclakclickclak" 02:15 < misspwn> i forgot how much i liked the simpsons 02:15 < sneniks> that's great 02:15 < sneniks> did anyone see the global warning? 02:15 < precise> wot 02:15 < sneniks> s/warning/notice 02:15 < sneniks> [Global Notice] Hi all, freenode seems to have fallen foul of the IRC-version of a graffiti artist -- as such, those of you whose communities operate with -t channels, you may wish to check your channel topics, and if appropriate, revert them back to their previous state! 02:16 <@cryptic1> lol 02:16 < precise> lmao 02:16 < sneniks> anyone know what happened? Sounds lulzy 02:17 * precise does the needful 02:17 <@cryptic1> probably automated bot would join channel and change topic if they did not have topic protection set 02:17 < ThatOneRoadie> didn't happen in ##reddit-hockey and we have -t 02:17 < ThatOneRoadie> iirc 02:17 < precise> Canada bout to exploide if they score 02:17 < precise> nerp, penalty 02:18 < misspwn> ohhh i've had some bots keep coming in one i monitor 02:18 < misspwn> doesn't look like they've changed topic though 02:18 < sneniks> please tell me he changed it to "motd"."8===D" 02:19 < sneniks> also; add $240 to my phone bill 02:19 < sneniks> what-the-fuck 02:20 < sneniks> fuck ... local business shared my photo on insta and now heaps of people followin gme 02:20 < sneniks> brb 02:21 < voidstar> marketing++ 02:21 < admiralspark> https://xkcd.com/1988/ 02:25 < TheTinker86> weird 02:26 < TheTinker86> why was i being thrown into a quaranteen group? 02:29 < sneniks> For good reason 02:35 < JollyRgrs> TheTinker86: could you just not talk? 02:35 < JollyRgrs> we don't allow unregistered nicks to talk (Too much spam) 02:35 < JollyRgrs> most likely is the case 02:37 < czarbomba> how the fuck is false equivalence not on yourlogicalfallacyis.com 02:39 < JollyRgrs> czarbomba: your false equivalence is the same as slippery slope, there's no difference between the two 02:39 < admiralspark> czarbomba: submit it? 02:39 < enix> w0t 02:39 < precise> JollyRgrs: Wot did Tinker do? 02:40 < precise> Is it because he cant spell quarantine? 02:40 * precise totally didn't doublecheck that spelling 02:41 < enix> precise: tbh if I was op, it's that kind of delinquency that wouldn't fly. 02:42 < enix> I'd be handing out bans like Pam handed out puffy stickers. 02:43 < enix> Starting with Nostalg14c... whose name is a PITA the remember when you're having issues connecting to the channel and you want to PM without tab completion. 02:43 < JollyRgrs> precise: nothing? i'm guessing he didn't register beforeh e tried to speak 02:43 < precise> JollyRgrs: Oh 02:43 < precise> enix: You are a true nazi mod 02:44 < JollyRgrs> precise: read up and you'd see that, you inbred 02:44 < enix> precise: Well this is a true Nazi channel. 02:44 < enix> precise: you are not permitted to speak unless you have registered with a central authority 02:45 < precise> Heh 02:45 < precise> JollyRgrs: I only scroll for cryptic1 02:45 < precise> #notmymod 02:46 <@cryptic1> rekt 02:46 < precise> lol 02:46 < admiralspark> kids 02:46 < precise> admiralspark: You are the youngest here... 02:47 < enix> precise: cryptic1 stands for some good policies, however it's rare that he walks among the common people. JollyRgrs meanwhile puts his title to the side to converse among the rest of us without prejudice 02:47 < precise> IRC is srs bisness 02:47 < enix> precise: personally, I vote for those who engage with the community as part of the community, as opposed to lording over it. 02:47 < precise> >vote 02:47 < precise> >implying we have a vote 02:47 < enix> precise: I'm sorry for this.. 02:47 < enix> .vote JollyRgrs 02:47 * precise looks at cryptic1 02:47 <@cryptic1> hilarious 02:47 < precise> Look at this capitalist pig, cryptic1! 02:48 < precise> Silly enix 02:48 < enix> precise: We were meant to have voting powered by Layer-8, unfortunately it's now powered by hopes and dreams. 02:48 < precise> Right on queue 02:48 <@cryptic1> its lawyer-eight now 02:48 < precise> Hi tsarbomba 02:48 < enix> tsarbomba and czarbomba: You both need to go to #donger and fight for your name 02:48 < enix> because I refuse to look twice at what you guys say 02:48 < precise> I thought they were the same....... 02:48 < TheTinker86> ive been registered here for months 02:48 < enix> TheTinker86: fuck bit slow there mate keep up 02:49 < enix> TheTinker86: please stop bumping old threads 02:49 < precise> TheTinker86: that's a loose interpretation of months 02:49 < precise> You registered that nick on freenode on March 29 02:49 * precise does math 02:50 < precise> "months" 02:50 < precise> Technically... 02:50 < abakedapplepie> inspector precise is on the job 02:50 < precise> Oh hai abakedapplepie 02:50 < phormulate> precise smells of excrement and chalk dust 02:50 < precise> TheTinker86: This is our jester 02:50 < precise> abakedapplepie: 02:50 < precise> phormulate: IDK how you know that but please get out of my house 02:50 < phormulate> stop doing math, it speeds up time 02:50 < precise> :O 02:50 < phormulate> stop it 02:50 < precise> so sry 02:50 < phormulate> ok 02:51 < phormulate> sorry, blood sugar 02:51 < precise> Damn, knights are on their horses tonight 02:52 < enix> yeah because winnipeg sucks and they know it 02:52 < precise> cryptic1: Please do the neeful. 02:53 <@cryptic1> i can do nothing 02:53 <@cryptic1> NOTHING! 02:53 < precise> :O 02:53 < precise> BUT 02:53 < precise> HE SLIGHTED CANADA 02:53 < precise> GET EM 02:53 < enix> BECAUSE ITS FUCKING CANADA MATE 02:53 * cryptic1 shrugs 02:53 < precise> Says the aussie 02:53 < enix> We have crocs mate we're badass 02:54 < phormulate> smoke the peace pipe and raise your bogan hokey sticks? 02:54 < precise> heh 02:54 < enix> phormulate: I am a connoisseur of racism and that sir.. 02:54 < enix> THAT 02:54 < enix> was shit. 02:54 < phormulate> meh 02:54 < phormulate> bogan is not racism 02:54 < phormulate> I played hokey in a league 02:54 < phormulate> ... 02:55 < enix> hokcey 02:55 < enix> hockey* 02:55 < phormulate> yep 02:55 < enix> right 02:55 < enix> I read that as "hoe key" 02:55 < phormulate> rusty kb tonight, and I was D 02:55 < enix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzSJBowPECY 02:55 < admiralspark> vape naysh what 02:56 < phormulate> I really can't watch that 02:56 < phormulate> too much stimulation... too much hash and brew 02:56 < enix> admiralspark: VAPE NASSSHHHHH 02:58 < enix> https://i.imgur.com/Jt6I6FE.png 03:04 < czarbomba> i see cryptic1 is still having an extended autist fit 03:05 < Nightcinder> i think my computer setup is finally done https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/WPmKlSpp/image.png 03:05 <@cryptic1> am i? 03:06 < Sousapro> hmm my wife may be getting one of these soon Honda CTX700 03:07 < czarbomba> #reddit-sysadmin q tsarbomba!*@* cryptic1!~cryptic1@unaffiliated/cryptic1 1526326333 03:07 < czarbomba> yes. you are. 03:07 < czarbomba> but you know what. that's okay. changes are a-comin' 03:07 < Sousapro> she rides on a Vespa GTS 300 right now and doesn't want to have to clutch while commuting 03:08 < Sousapro> the bike looks fun for having a DCT transmission 03:08 < Sousapro> also is about $8k around here now 03:08 < czarbomba> does this person have a death wish, sousapro 03:08 < czarbomba> vespas are even more dangerous than motorcycles in the united states 03:08 < Sousapro> hers has ABS and ASR on it 03:08 < Sousapro> I've ridden in a downpour with no issues 03:08 < czarbomba> does it have a magical anti-gravity component that allows her to escape assholes running her down? 03:09 < czarbomba> because that's how scooter-riders are killed most often 03:09 < Sousapro> czarbomba: no more so than any two wheel vehicle 03:09 < czarbomba> they either get hit by cars or they fall off the scooter and...get hit by cars 03:09 < czarbomba> actually, yes moreso 03:09 < czarbomba> by a significant margin 03:09 < Sousapro> falling off is hilarious 03:09 < czarbomba> because there are more scooters than motorcycles on the road 03:09 < Sousapro> i've fallen off zero times 03:09 < Sousapro> I guess if you don't know how to ride 03:09 < czarbomba> yeah i don't know shit about riding two wheels 03:10 < Sousapro> you're not doing the isle of man TT 03:10 < czarbomba> i guess the 1300CC harley i had for sixteen years was just window dressing 03:10 < czarbomba> fucking idjit 03:10 < Sousapro> if you fall off, I probably would laugh 03:10 < Sousapro> I'm not saying you don't 03:10 < czarbomba> i must have missed the announcement that today is Autism Monday 03:10 < TuxedoJack> Nightcinder: aww, that's cute 03:10 < Sousapro> have you put 20k on large frame scooters? 03:10 < czarbomba> i'll be back when some less-afflicted motherfuckers are around 03:10 < Nightcinder> TuxedoJack: lemme guess, monitor count? 03:10 < TuxedoJack> https://i.imgur.com/dbGKYVZ.jpg 03:11 < Nightcinder> >keurig 03:11 < Nightcinder> ew 03:11 < TuxedoJack> I swapped it for a Mr. Coffee 03:11 < czarbomba> p.s. to hell with a thai place that charges $19 for a small fried rice 03:11 < czarbomba> and $25 for pad thai 03:11 < TuxedoJack> Just so I could say I have coffee when I watch the monitor labeled "Mr. Radar": 03:11 < Sousapro> czarbomba: this is my current commuter: https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/en/motorcycles/2018/touring/road-king-special.html 03:11 < precise> czarbomba: More like pad their wallet 03:11 < Nightcinder> i hope i never have to have a phone on my desk 03:11 < Sousapro> I rode a scooter because I can't fit on anything under a road king comfortably 03:12 < Sousapro> maybe a heritage softail with highway pegs 03:12 < Sousapro> I hate being 6'8" 03:12 < Sousapro> I make the road king look small :/ 03:13 < Sousapro> czarbomba: we're also considering another car. I just hate riding in a cage :/ 03:14 < enix> And you think riding a scooter looks better? 03:14 < Sousapro> I have to drive over 100mph to feel the same way as I do at 25 on two wheels 03:14 < JollyRgrs> Sousapro: so this is like you? https://gifer.com/en/SCCz 03:14 < Sousapro> confirmed. 03:14 < Sousapro> just need to black out the bike 03:14 < Sousapro> lol 03:15 < Sousapro> enix: I don't ride a scooter anymore (road king now) but I do like the lines on the Vespas 03:15 < JollyRgrs> https://i.pinimg.com/736x/55/22/bc/5522bc6398691f7894b4bf69719505da--andre-the-giant-the-giants.jpg 03:15 < enix> You LIKE vespas? 03:15 < JollyRgrs> wait, there's a better one 03:15 < enix> oh my lord 03:15 < Sousapro> enix: they're fun and very maneuverable 03:15 < enix> Sorry but I have the deepest despise for scooters 03:15 < Sousapro> why? 03:16 < Sousapro> and I said scooter, not moped 03:16 < enix> Honestly; in my country, scooter riders are absolute cunts 03:16 < Sousapro> :( 03:16 < enix> Every. Single. One. 03:16 < Sousapro> sorry mang 03:17 < Sousapro> I never cut anyone off but I did laugh on everyone trying to pass on my right 03:17 < Sousapro> don't think anyone successfully did that over the 4 years I rode a scooter 03:17 < enix> They're slow, the people who use them aren't riders and have no respect for the 'unspoken road rules' us riders have with each other, they park like twats with zero regard for damaging others bikes 03:17 < Sousapro> enix: yikes, I never did any of that 03:18 < enix> They're always getting in my way, always double parking over me, always taking up all the car spots with their giant shit 03:18 < Sousapro> and I averaged about 75mph on mine 03:18 < enix> Everything that could piss you off about a rider is embodied in the Sydney scooter rider 03:18 < Sousapro> wow, that's nuts 03:18 < enix> Yeah they're pricks 03:19 < Sousapro> I would apologize for them but they sound like assholes 03:19 < Sousapro> lol 03:19 < enix> There's no apologizing for stupid lol 03:19 < Sousapro> I rode out in Portland OR and it was great 03:19 < Sousapro> I rode all but snow days 03:19 < rpifan> last exit to springfield 03:20 < Sousapro> 33 degrees for 45 minutes is a bit rough lol 03:20 < enix> C F or K? 03:20 < Sousapro> LMAO K 03:20 < Sousapro> F 03:20 < Sousapro> like 1 C 03:20 < enix> Oh yeah that'd be chilli 03:20 < enix> omg 03:20 < enix> chilly 03:21 * enix is ready to f10 his job prematurely 03:21 < Sousapro> enix: it could be worse 03:21 < enix> nope 03:21 < Sousapro> enix: you could buy a scooter and ride in sydney 03:21 < enix> I'd honestly rather take the bus 03:21 < Sousapro> lol 03:22 < Sousapro> I would have taken the bus but I was going the wrong way so bus took like 2 hours to do a 30 minute nominal commute 03:22 < MillerBOSS> Anyone have a clue what application this icon is of https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-05-14-at-8.20.31-PM-wk.png ? It is chilling int he system tray. I do not have access to the system just a screenshot 03:22 < Sousapro> MillerBOSS: martian spying app 03:23 < enix> wtf 03:23 < enix> got a fuller screenshot 03:23 < MillerBOSS> Negative. That is small and in the system tray 03:24 < Sousapro> look at that red planet 03:24 < JollyRgrs> is that the touchpad icon with a dot indicating it being touched there? 03:24 < JollyRgrs> otehrwise, no clue 03:24 < Sousapro> I can see continents in the screenshot 03:24 < Sousapro> or compression artifacts :P 03:25 < MillerBOSS> I mean I got this but it https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-05-14-20-24-35-fl.png isn't any better 03:25 < MillerBOSS> I am helping a friend 03:25 < enix> You cant right click it? 03:25 < enix> Hover over it? 03:25 < MillerBOSS> I asked the same :P See this person manages users work lets say and a program takes screenshots 03:26 < MillerBOSS> She wants to make sure it is not a auto click program 03:26 < MillerBOSS> Like https://www.murgee.com/auto-clicker/ 03:26 < enix> I use that autoclicker 03:26 < enix> it's fantastic 03:27 < MillerBOSS> Which means you can pretend to move the mouse and such that a program that monitors remote workers can be fooled into thinking the employee is actually working but not 03:28 < MillerBOSS> So that is the long story. :P 03:28 < MillerBOSS> And I am sure Google Images knows waht the fuck it is but I feel Google dumbs down Google Images reverse search as the vernal public would be freaked out giving it faces and such 03:28 <@cryptic1> wigglemouse is a java app 03:30 < enix> omg where is the trust 03:30 < enix> "he's not at his desk and he's working from hom we can't trust him" 03:30 < enix> is is fucking work done? yes/ cool. 03:31 < MillerBOSS> Its a little more complicated in this set up unfortunately ;) 03:32 < enix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0W7E7CgEps 03:33 < Nightcinder> https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/996132429772410882 03:33 < Nightcinder> gotta love elon 03:35 < enix> honesty is best policy 03:35 < MillerBOSS> martian spying app, you were right Sousapro. Thanks! 03:35 < Sousapro> anytime, MillerBOSS 03:36 < MillerBOSS> :D 03:36 < Sousapro> heh, this guy on bass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cytyAgu9-bA 03:36 < Sousapro> the solo is hotness 03:36 < Sousapro> stuff like this is why I don't play bass 03:37 < Sousapro> I got to college performance major level on tuba and I don't have the spare 20k hours to play bass like that guy about 1:45 03:38 < MillerBOSS> OK I give up. Back to my Factorio 03:39 < Sousapro> I wish playing music paid more money lol 03:40 < nohusuro> man, a good bassist makes a world of difference 03:40 < nohusuro> bass sounds so sexy 03:41 < JollyRgrs> flea makes some good money 03:41 < JollyRgrs> all you gotta do is be like super popular 03:42 < JollyRgrs> Sousapro: that guy's not bad 03:43 < JollyRgrs> sad part is, at best, he'll be in his local city symphony whenever they do pink floyd covers or something 03:43 < Sousapro> JollyRgrs: yeah, that was a fun direct cover lol 03:43 < Sousapro> JollyRgrs: yeah, it's kind of sad how cheap musical excellence is now 03:43 < JollyRgrs> yeah 03:43 < JollyRgrs> :( 03:43 < czarbomba> https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/founders-cryptocurrency-company-indicted-manhattan-federal-court-scheme-defraud 03:43 < precise> Hey guys, I'm trying to write this grep command but I'm having a little trouble with alternative strings and could use some help. The grep statement is as follows: grep '\*\*\* (Joins\|Parts\|Quits\|): $var' This is not working, a single option works, but I can't get the multiple options to work. Any advice or ideas? I think it is in relation to the trailing ":". 03:43 < czarbomba> "it's only going to go up" they said 03:43 < czarbomba> "there's no end in sight" they said 03:44 < JollyRgrs> he could easily play bass for RHCP or any other rock band 03:44 < JollyRgrs> but if he doesn't know the right ppl, it'll never happen 03:44 < Sousapro> JollyRgrs: yeah, I was going to college for tuba performance on scholarship but no jobs 03:44 < JollyRgrs> lol 03:44 < Sousapro> JollyRgrs: I like IT 8/10 and music 10/10 03:44 < JollyRgrs> sousaphone or tuba? 03:44 < czarbomba> you don't go to college on a scholarship without knowing the difference between tuba and sousaphone 03:44 < JollyRgrs> czarbomba: but his name! 03:44 < JollyRgrs> HIS NAME! 03:45 < czarbomba> i always figured that was because of j.p. sousa 03:45 < czarbomba> but you raise a good point! 03:45 < Sousapro> both but I played a 3/4 tuba in the tuba studio, you wouldn't believe how much ensemble play I got (everyone else was rocking a 5/4 or 6/4 tuba and overwhelmed everyone else) 03:45 < Sousapro> I carried it like a euphonium because I'm huge 03:45 < czarbomba> tuba must be fun just because you can have fun playing tuba hook around fat people 03:45 < Sousapro> lmao 03:45 < Sousapro> yeah 03:45 < precise> lol 03:46 < Sousapro> also peoples faces when you actually play something beautiful 03:46 < Sousapro> most tuba music is melancholy though 03:46 < czarbomba> imagine fishbone with a tuba 03:47 < Sousapro> man, I miss how playing excellent music made me happy 03:47 < Sousapro> concerts with people that good will never happen again in my life lol 03:47 < Sousapro> oh well 03:47 < Sousapro> but I get decent money now! 03:48 < matty_r> yo 03:48 < matty_r> Name Inclusions Cost Inclusions Cost 03:48 < matty_r> Toolbox 2x Spanner, 3x Wrench 150 125 03:48 < matty_r> Spanner N/A 25 03:48 < matty_r> Wrench N/A 25 03:48 < matty_r> whoops 03:48 < precise> hah 03:48 < matty_r> thank god thats what was in my clipboard 03:48 < matty_r> :S 03:49 < Sousapro> we barely missed rule 34 clippy 03:49 < Sousapro> phew 03:49 < matty_r> ha 03:49 < matty_r> Anybody here experienced with MS Access? 03:49 < Alternity> lol 03:50 < Alternity> you poor soul 03:50 < Sousapro> czarbomba: should I fit my road king special with a windshield? I'm trying to figure out if I care about looks enough to avoid a windscreen 03:50 < Sousapro> czarbomba: I'm kinda leaning towards probably not except for long trips 03:51 < matty_r> I'm trying to figure out how to get a multivalued field, where I can put in a quantity for each value 03:51 < Sousapro> I'm trying not to admit that I know outlook 03:51 < Sousapro> s/outlook/access 03:51 < Sousapro> meh lol 03:51 < Sousapro> same deal 03:51 < Sousapro> matty_r: have you considered using an SQL Express instance? 03:51 < matty_r> I'll use whatever 03:52 < TuxedoJack> Sousapro: https://twitter.com/athenahollow/status/948978409899782149 03:52 < Sousapro> who needs to access the database? 03:52 < TuxedoJack> NSFW 03:52 < matty_r> me 03:52 < matty_r> plus one other, maybe 03:52 < Sousapro> TuxedoJack: YOU 03:52 * Sousapro points at TuxedoJack 03:52 < Sousapro> lol 03:52 < Sousapro> I'm not surprised 03:53 < Sousapro> there's squick of everything on the internet 03:53 < TuxedoJack> Rule 34, man 03:53 < Sousapro> there's a frog girl in a show I've been watching and there is apparently a ton of rule 34 out there 03:53 < TuxedoJack> E-Hentai and Paheal 03:53 < matty_r> Sousapro: why would I use sql express? 03:53 < Sousapro> matty_r: Access is a pain and tends to corrupt itself 03:54 < Sousapro> I can't tell you the number of times I've attempted to recover an Access DB 03:54 < matty_r> ok, sure. So will it solve my problem though? 03:54 < Sousapro> maybe use a multi table model 03:55 < Nightcinder> wtf 03:55 < Nightcinder> that tweet 03:55 < Sousapro> yeah 03:55 < matty_r> Not sure how to do that the best way.. ha ha 03:55 < Sousapro> looking for a decent guide 03:55 < nohusuro> multivalued field? what do you mean by that? 03:56 < JollyRgrs> Sousapro: wtf? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVyvV0tOOjw 03:56 < matty_r> nohusuro: you can create a lookup field which allows you to select multiple values 03:56 < Sousapro> JollyRgrs: it's like a bass djent stick with four necks 03:57 < Sousapro> sounds pretty good too 03:57 < matty_r> nohusuro: like, it brings up a list and you can place a checkbox next to each one 03:57 < JollyRgrs> Sousapro: yeah it does, i don't understand how this guy can rock like this 03:57 < JollyRgrs> crazy 03:57 < matty_r> I need to be able to do that, but also put a quantity against which one 03:57 < Sousapro> JollyRgrs: my brother in law is probably at that level 03:57 < matty_r> each one* 03:57 < Sousapro> I keep trying to nudge him into music school 03:57 < Sousapro> he would become world class if he did 03:57 < nohusuro> sounds like you're trying to do a stock / order system? 03:58 < matty_r> yea, basically 03:58 < Sousapro> hit up a little peabody or berklee 03:58 < nohusuro> stop trying to stuff too much functionality into one control 03:58 < Sousapro> matty_r: what about snipe-it? 03:58 < nohusuro> is the simple answer 03:58 < matty_r> thats really too much for what I need 03:59 < nohusuro> an excel sheet would do you just fine 03:59 < matty_r> I'd rather attempt building a db schema 03:59 < matty_r> for learning and all that 03:59 < Sousapro> as a learning exercise, I think it would be cool. 03:59 < Sousapro> combine it with a web page with controls 03:59 < matty_r> thats the plan 04:00 < JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDVboqW9VQA 04:00 < JollyRgrs> playing eminem with M&Ms 04:02 < JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT5F0No-El4 04:02 < Sousapro> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KUkrdlSoXM lmao animal crossing cover 04:02 < JollyRgrs> black man, i give him much props 04:02 < Sousapro> but he kills it 04:02 < JollyRgrs> i like his version 04:04 < JollyRgrs> and he mic drops at the end, like a BAUS 04:05 < Sousapro> JollyRgrs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-1rsAyMg3o 04:05 < Sousapro> lmao, when he hits the turkey noise. this is literally better than the original. 04:06 < nohusuro> well matty_r, you could either store it as a json / xml object in the field, or you could do what a normal person would and add a line item in a related table for each ticked checkbox 04:07 < Sousapro> ++ to second idea 04:08 < nohusuro> or do a what a more normal person would do and scrap the whole drop down with checkboxes idea 04:08 < nohusuro> making the interface design easier and more closely match what you're doing in the database 04:14 < MillerBOSS> #reddit-sysadmin ICO, when are we starting it? 04:14 <@cryptic1> already got lootcrates 04:15 < MillerBOSS> Do em both 04:17 < MillerBOSS> #reddit-sysadmin lootcrates ICO 04:18 < rpifan> lol 04:18 < rpifan> ill buy in 04:19 < MillerBOSS> I wonder how many people SEC has hired in the last year 04:20 < rpifan> well my previous company got shut down by the sec 04:21 < czarbomba> leave it to millerboss to bring up crypto the day the DoJ basically shuts the whole thing down 04:21 < czarbomba> giggle 04:22 < MillerBOSS> I haven't looked at the news yet 04:22 < czarbomba> (can't figure out why it's down $1000 in 24 hours?) 04:22 < mal_will> Except earlier when linking that news article 04:23 < E-werd> tf u on about czarbomba 04:24 < E-werd> there was a ruling about game gambling, not crypto 04:25 < mal_will> According to reports, the SEC is internally debating whether certain cryptocurrencies should be classified as securities. Little from these discussions has been leaked, but regulators were said to have met on May 7 to discuss the matter. 04:25 < mal_will> https://www.ccn.com/as-sec-debates-whether-cryptocurrencies-are-securities-initiative-seeks-to-distance-xrp-from-ripple/ 04:25 < mal_will> I'm guessing ^ 04:27 < mal_will> Older, but maybe? https://www.forbes.com/sites/tedknutson/2018/02/26/justice-dept-developing-comprehensive-cryptocurrency-strategy-says-doj-2/ 04:29 < MillerBOSS> E-werd 👉 czarbomba took the wrong line. Took Lysol instead 04:30 < E-werd> that hand character fucks my client 04:30 < E-werd> pushes the whole line down half a tick 04:30 < MillerBOSS> Don't blame me 04:32 < MillerBOSS> Watching the last two episodes of Silicon Valley. Hilarious as always 04:32 < gnupluslinux> fuck you i'll blame whoever i damn well pleae 04:32 < gnupluslinux> now fix my shit MillerBOSS i have people depending on me 04:32 < gnupluslinux> I. AM. IMPORTANT. 04:32 < MillerBOSS> OK gnupluslinux. State your issue 04:33 < gnupluslinux> cryptic1 isn't giving me the damn lootcrate i paid for 04:33 < gnupluslinux> send him the pfbux and everything and he hasn't delivered 04:34 < MillerBOSS> OK file your complaint with support@reddit-sysadm.in 04:35 < nohusuro> lol, straight to india 1st line support for you gnupluslinux 04:35 < nohusuro> gnupluslinux: it's only a 10% chance that you get the lootbox you pay for 04:36 < gnupluslinux> nah, i heard they made the change to pakistan for 8.5% opex reductions 04:38 < mal_will> The loot crate can't be good 04:38 < mal_will> A coupon to sizzler and a permanent quite 04:38 < mal_will> Quiet* 04:41 < enix> is there something like this for windows https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Firejail 04:42 < mal_will> Long term or short term enix ? 04:42 < gnupluslinux> aw fuck i forgot the name 04:43 < gnupluslinux> basically segregates the program to its own section of mem and accesses 04:44 < czarbomba> there was a ruling about game gambling, not crypto 04:44 < czarbomba> god crypto dorks are fucking a) stupid, b) prideful, and c) mega-oblivious 04:44 < czarbomba> https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/founders-cryptocurrency-company-indicted-manhattan-federal-court-scheme-defraud 04:45 < czarbomba> go buy more bitcoin, allstar. it's down another $200 since i last looked :D 04:45 < MillerBOSS> >SOHRAB SHARMA, a/k/a “Sam Sharma,” RAYMOND TRAPANI, a/k/a “Ray,” and ROBERT FARKAS, a/k/a “RJ,” a/k/a “Bob,” the three co-founders of a startup company called Centra Tech, Inc. (“Centra Tech”), that purported to offer cryptocurrency-related financial products, with conspiring to commit, and the commission of, securities and wire fraud in connection with a scheme to induce victims 04:45 < MillerBOSS> to invest millions of dollars’ worth of digital funds for the purchase of unregistered securities, in the form of digital currency tokens issued by Centra Tech, through material misrepresentations and omissions. SHARMA, TRAPANI, and FARKAS were all arrested last month based on criminal complaints filed by this Office charging them with the same crimes. 04:45 < MillerBOSS> Does not equal ALLLL crypto coins 04:45 < gnupluslinux> where's hunterkll when you want him 04:46 < czarbomba> millerboss, you don't really seem to know how finance works if you think this is somehow sealed off from btc 04:46 < czarbomba> and you DEFINITELY don't know how crypto works 04:46 < czarbomba> maybe get back to doxing ircers. you're good at that, at least 04:46 < MillerBOSS> I live in my own universe czarbomba 04:47 < czarbomba> ask yourself this: why if these clowns were caught in florida is the case being tried in SDNY 04:47 < MillerBOSS> Hey asshole once and for all I did not dox anyone buy saying X is married to X in another channel. Get your facts straight once and for all. :) 04:47 < MillerBOSS> Once and For ALL 04:47 < precise> MillerBOSS: lol 04:47 < czarbomba> i saw it. you doxed. that's not up for debate. 04:47 < czarbomba> it's a dick move. 04:47 < gnupluslinux> enix, https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/device-experiences/oem-vbs best i got, completely drawing a blank otherwise 04:47 < mal_will> That fuck 04:47 < MillerBOSS> Pfft that not doxing 04:47 < czarbomba> you had an Autist Moment and you won't live it down. 04:47 < gnupluslinux> maybe a good place to start? 04:47 < MillerBOSS> Get a clue 04:47 < mal_will> You first 04:47 < czarbomba> ^ 04:47 < mal_will> He muted me 04:47 < gnupluslinux> i know there was a name for the thing you're looking for in windows but its escaping me 04:48 < mal_will> After doxxing me 04:48 <@cryptic1> Stop 04:48 < czarbomba> millerboss has basically ended his goodwill in this channel 04:48 < gnupluslinux> mal_will's real name is mal, last name will 04:48 < czarbomba> his constant sucking up to the mods is alll that keeps him here 04:48 < gnupluslinux> middle name _ 04:48 < precise> czarbomba: + 04:48 < mal_will> Lol, more just the married and gender thing 04:48 < MillerBOSS> Wow 04:48 <+NinjaStyle> Bleh 04:48 <@cryptic1> Can u guys fucking stop 04:48 < MillerBOSS> If you don't like it /part. :) 04:49 < czarbomba> i'd rather make sure everybody knows just what sort of trash you are 04:49 < mal_will> I mean he won't 04:49 < czarbomba> but thanks for your suggestion 04:49 <@cryptic1> Take your petty arguments elsewhere 04:50 <@cryptic1> Sick of your bullsh8t drama 04:50 <@cryptic1> If all of you dont stop i will ban the whole lot of you 05:03 < czarbomba> cryptic1 would like you to know that he is absolutely not playing favorites, no way, nuh uh, nothing to see here. never mind that he banned another user for "doxing" the IP of an unmasked ircer. eyeroll. 05:04 < precise> Alright, I just want to say something real quick. Can we please just drop this shit. MillerBOSS, don't dox, IDC what your definition of "dox" is. If you reveal information about another user they don't want revealed, it's doxing. czarbomba i appreciate your sentiment, but I reviewed the buffer and saw you brought the doxxing back up, please don't do that. mal_will and NinjaStyle just ignore them, 05:04 < precise> if they keep at it, they will get bant, simple. precise, stop soapboxing, it's not cool. Now let's drop the topic, the +m, and move on. Ok? <3 05:04 < MillerBOSS> Wow people can not listen for shit 05:04 < czarbomba> precise, crimes don't just "vanish" because the mods want to pretend they didn't happen 05:04 < precise> Alright 05:04 < czarbomba> asshole gonna be asshole? i'm gonna drop bombs on asshole every time. 05:04 < precise> Peace 05:04 < czarbomba> it's what i do. 05:04 < MillerBOSS> +m for 24 hours kthxbye 05:04 < czarbomba> look. he's begging his modbuddy to censor the entire channel. 05:04 <+NinjaStyle> I appreciate it czarbomba 05:04 < czarbomba> this is what you're defending, cryptic1. 05:04 < czarbomba> fuck you, dude. 05:05 <@cryptic1> I told u idiots to stop 05:05 < czarbomba> trash sperg faggot. 05:05 <+NinjaStyle> Fuck 05:05 < Davnit> rrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeee 05:05 < mal_will> :| well 05:05 * precise meanders away 05:05 < MadCamel> wow. You know I've been in and out of here for a couple years, first such explosion I've seen. 05:05 <@cryptic1> Stop last warning 05:05 < gnupluslinux> cryptic1's just mad he's behind on his lootcrate shipments 05:06 < mal_will> Lol gnupluslinux 05:06 < MadCamel> Settle down children or we'll turn this IRC server right around and go back home, with no dinner! 05:06 < mal_will> Excellent timing 05:06 < mal_will> Ily man 05:07 < torquellini> Penises am I right 05:07 < precise> God damnit torquellini 05:07 < torquellini> Oh sorry 05:07 < precise> get out 05:07 < torquellini> *penii 05:08 < mal_will> Penne* 05:08 < torquellini> The truth is out 05:10 < rpifan> torquellini, tortellini 05:10 < torquellini> I'm going to take a shower and think of this channel while I put soap on my naked, wet body 05:10 < nohusuro> :/ czarbomba loves stirring shit, such a troll 05:10 < precise> nohusuro: I've sorta noticed that :( 05:12 < mal_will> Ever think about how much you could tell a person about a show without spoiling it? 05:12 < Davnit> if only IRC had a "x is typing" feature 05:12 < mal_will> You can get far if you're creative 05:12 < mal_will> Silicon Valley tonight was wild. Richard was in it. 05:12 < precise> Davnit: noooo 05:12 < gnupluslinux> Davnit, why in the ever loving fuck would you want that lol 05:13 < mal_will> It would get noisy 05:13 < gnupluslinux> this entire would be nothing but $ is typing 05:13 < Davnit> very valuable information to the chat experience 05:13 < precise> Not to mention all those times I'd type something up only to delete it would get called out 05:13 < gnupluslinux> with all the bots constantly keeping a single space in a buffer 05:13 < Davnit> yea that's the point lel 05:13 < precise> gnupluslinux: bah 05:13 < precise> no 05:13 < gnupluslinux> irc protocol doesnt support that anyhow best i can tell 05:14 < precise> Aight, now that the bomb has exploded, I'mma go sleep in the rubble. night 05:16 < MadCamel> irc is extensible. you could do it with ctcp and a script. if enough people did it it'd become a pseudostandard, like colors 05:16 < Davnit> ctcp would be gross but it could be a server extension 05:18 < Davnit> what i really want is for it to show the title of whatever window a user has focused next to everyone's username 05:18 < Davnit> kinda like steam and discord do with games, except for everrrrything! 05:18 < mal_will> There's up to 600 people in here though 05:18 < MadCamel> that'd be pretty bad actually. I work for some adult websites and y'all would get the wrong idea 05:19 < Davnit> i can't wait for a bug in one of these platforms to accidentally do that 05:19 < mal_will> Even 5% typing at once would get weird 05:19 < gnupluslinux> MadCamel, how's storage for that honestly 05:19 < gnupluslinux> everyone pulls from a central store yall license from or do people keep their own storage 05:20 < MadCamel> well my new gig we don't do much storage. my old gig was a tube site, we had over a petabyte in a homebrew distributed filesystem 05:20 < mal_will> What did backups look like? 05:20 < misspwn> torquellini, this makes me hungry 05:21 < misspwn> your nickname that is 05:21 < E-werd> christ you're a salty fucker czarbomba.. oh he left 05:21 < E-werd> good 05:21 < E-werd> what a disagreeable buffoon 05:21 < torquellini> It is a stronk pasta misspwn 05:21 < mal_will> I mean, I think he meant well 05:21 < Davnit> ooo here's another idea 05:22 < Davnit> everytime someone brings this conversation back up, they owe everyone else a nickel 05:22 < Davnit> we'd be riiiich!!! 05:22 < torquellini> Which conversation? 05:22 < Davnit> :shrug: 05:22 < torquellini> Sounds like my dev cycle 05:22 < MadCamel> everything was stored n+1 thanks to the distributed fs. 2 copies of every file on different servers, in different racks when it could be helped. Occasionally lost some data but it was very rare, and what's a tb or two when you're talking petabytes? 05:22 < mal_will> To quote Shaggy: She saw the marks on my shoulder (It wasn't me) 05:23 < torquellini> Is that what that line is 05:23 < mal_will> P dope MadCamel 05:23 < mal_will> I got it from Google torquellini 05:23 < torquellini> PHONY 05:23 < mal_will> I got to see hustler TVs set up 05:23 < Davnit> whose line is it, anyway? 05:23 < mal_will> Just a massive, massive tape library 05:23 < mal_will> Managed by a robot 05:24 * torquellini laughs in drew carey 05:24 < misspwn> a stronk pasta dohoho 05:24 < misspwn> it'll get you ripped 05:24 < Davnit> i too export my porn collection onto vhs tapes 05:24 < torquellini> Lennyface 05:24 < mal_will> Lol. That SysAdmin that worked it was a cray guy 05:24 < MadCamel> yeah if it were oroginal content, or even purchased licenced content, we'd have needed a hige tape library for sure. With user-uploaded content the users are sort of the backup. If someone likes it enough they'll re-upload it. 05:25 < mal_will> Idk how he did it all 05:25 < mal_will> Tru 05:25 < gnupluslinux> >users are sort of the backup. If someone likes it enough they'll re-upload it. 05:25 < gnupluslinux> hahahahahaha 05:25 < MadCamel> excuse my fat fingers. 05:25 < gnupluslinux> yall set up ur usr backup systems 05:25 < gnupluslinux> its all the rage 05:25 < Davnit> its annoying how there's always a dozen slightly different versions of the same clip 05:26 < mal_will> Lol I did that at work 05:26 < mal_will> One department insisted on bit by bit backups of old user computers 05:26 < gnupluslinux> put em together to get the whole scene 05:26 < mal_will> I was like, buy yourselves and external, leave me out 05:26 < mal_will> How do you find those Davnit 05:27 < Davnit> not even different parts of it, but like one video is 4:19 and another will be 5:42 and there's a bunch of overlap or its a completely different cut or something 05:27 < mal_will> I've never worked with video 05:28 < mal_will> Is there some software to help you find dupes? 05:28 < Davnit> or when you are looking for the full video and all you get are dozens of results for the previews 05:29 < Davnit> there is video-specific dupe detection but with user generated content it can get kinda tricky 05:29 < torquellini> He wasn't a crayfish mal_will ? 05:29 < mal_will> He could have been 05:29 < MadCamel> there's software to fingerprint videos, sort of a fuzzy-checksum type thing. can be used to find dupes regardless of re-encodes etc. 05:29 < mal_will> He showed up to meet with me in a ripped t shirt, haha 05:29 < torquellini> Ewwww 05:30 < Davnit> google needs to put their deep-learning machines to this task 05:30 < mal_will> Dope MadCamel 05:30 < mal_will> Yassss dedupe the internet's porn 05:30 < torquellini> This is the path to world peace 05:30 < Davnit> until they start doing automatic copyright detection on all the videos as well 05:31 < mal_will> Mo money in Creator's hands? 05:31 < Davnit> when the creator is a shady porn studio idk 05:32 < MadCamel> that's expensive, both computationally and in staff. It's not something most video sites are interested in doing unless legally required. Like youtube's content-id is the result of a settlement.. 05:32 < Davnit> youtube's policies have gone off the deep end lately 05:32 < torquellini> I know someone trying to break into the youtube market 05:33 < mal_will> I don't fully get the demonitization issue 05:33 < torquellini> She not smart but I hope the best for her 05:33 < gnupluslinux> lol torquellini 05:33 < MadCamel> torquellini: good luck to her, we need alternatives 05:33 < mal_will> I'm watching on older YouTuber video now, about how stressful YouTube fame is 05:33 < Davnit> youtube really needs to get hit for it 05:33 < torquellini> No I mean like as a content creator MadCamel 05:33 < MadCamel> oh. derp 05:33 < Davnit> they're no longer just removing videos for being illegal 05:33 < Davnit> they're removing them for not being advertiser friendly 05:33 < torquellini> Basically 05:34 < Davnit> aka they are curating videos 05:34 < mal_will> It's like, curse words and stuff? 05:34 < torquellini> But Spiderman can get giggity with Elsa 05:34 < mal_will> Spoderman and ilsa 05:34 < Davnit> which means they are controlling content, but still keeping the protections given to companies that are supposed to ONLY host other peoples content 05:34 < mal_will> Is it video by video, or whole channels? 05:34 < torquellini> And you can advocate that kids shoot their siblings in the head 05:34 < MadCamel> codyslab had to remove his mining videos because they dealt with explosives. Explosives. In a licensed mine. On the guy's own property. Yeah.. YT has gone to hell 05:35 < torquellini> Codyslab got fucked hard 05:35 < torquellini> That dude has some awesome and informative content too 05:35 < Davnit> yea there's lots of stuff like that 05:35 < mal_will> So just videos? 05:35 < torquellini> Yeah videos 05:35 < mal_will> And you can remove them and get money back? 05:35 < Davnit> scientists getting fucked because chemistry is dangerous by nature 05:35 < torquellini> But they have 3 strikes on channels 05:36 < torquellini> So mal_will like Codyslab got hit with the 3 strike rule and was banned for like a month or so 05:36 < mal_will> Woah 05:36 < mal_will> I like the drug guy 05:36 < mal_will> He'll tell you all about ketamine 05:37 < mal_will> I hope he's still getting money 05:37 < Davnit> the automated system has suspended some big channels outright even when they are partners and stuff 05:37 < technonerd> psysch substance? 05:37 < misspwn> not enough tide pod videos on youtube 05:37 < Davnit> and then they leave the owner with no way to contact youtube or any kind of recourse 05:37 < Davnit> just because a robot or flag brigade decided they didn't like them for whatever reason 05:37 < mal_will> I think so technonerd I'll check 05:38 < mal_will> Yep, psyched substance 05:38 < torquellini> But that's why patreon is blowing up rn 05:38 < Davnit> patreon has its own problems with that too 05:38 < mal_will> Exactly, life, uh, finds a way 05:39 < Davnit> just it hasn't happened as much 05:39 < torquellini> CC's are turning to patreon to keep the lights on. Even cyanide and happiness has been demonetized 05:39 < torquellini> Yeah patreon almost goofed bad recently but they course corrected i think 05:40 < mal_will> I accidentally saw a man get fisted onstage on a drag queen patreon 05:40 < mal_will> I'd like to know what IS being flagged 05:41 < MadCamel> I wonder if the policies will hurt youtube in the end. If you demonetize enough content people are getting free video hosting. Also they are willing to jump ship to new platforms. (Though with NN being gone that may be impossible now) 05:41 < torquellini> Some saying penis mal_will 05:41 < torquellini> I don't know if computers can interpret fisting 05:41 < MadCamel> They'll be able to soon. 05:41 < torquellini> Put me out of work 05:42 < enix> So did this edit yesterday from a random facebook photo https://imgur.com/a/wzwFMVY 05:42 < Davnit> i'm pretty sure porn is okay on patreon, or at least i know several artists that draw porn use it and give their work as rewards 05:42 < enix> Hands down my favorite eidt 05:42 < enix> s/eidt/edit 05:42 < mal_will> Lol, computer aided fisting identification 05:42 < JollyRgrs> cafi 05:42 < torquellini> AutoFIST 05:42 < mal_will> "I'm a cafi Dev" 05:43 < Davnit> cloudCAFI 05:43 < mal_will> Legit though, graveyard girl is crazy loaded, crazy crazy loaded on youtube 05:43 < torquellini> Graveyard girl will be my wife 05:43 < mal_will> If you play the game, it's worth it, it seems 05:43 < MadCamel> I hear google's in the process of bringing a ton of TPU's online. tensor processing units - inaccurate but extremely fast chips optimized for AI. Like each single rack they bring online would be #1 in the top500 supercomputer list if the benchmarks were allowed to have ballparked answers. 05:43 < mal_will> You know of her torquellini 05:44 < enix> wtf is graveyard girl 05:44 < torquellini> I love her 05:44 < enix> really 05:44 < enix> bit of a mutt dont you reckon 05:45 < torquellini> DONT YOU DARE TALK ABOUT MY BABY GIRL LIKE THAT 05:45 < mal_will> She has a Tesla and a Porsche and a mansion 05:45 < mal_will> With an arcade room 05:45 < enix> You cant be serious 05:46 < mal_will> The mansion has things like hand carved front doors 05:46 < MadCamel> people get paid big money just to be popular now 05:46 < enix> mal_will: you're fucking with me right 05:46 < mal_will> Custom wrought (not cast) iron stair cases 05:46 < mal_will> Not even a little enix 05:46 < torquellini> I used to want to be so rich that I could buy a human person on a whim 05:46 < Davnit> people have always been paid big money to be popular 05:46 < MadCamel> would you eat them or just let them go to waste? 05:47 < Davnit> just now they don't have to suck off harvey weinstein anymore 05:47 < mal_will> Ever customize a house? And think "I'll get the square door frames, they're cheaper than the round" 05:47 < torquellini> Nah I'd probably send them to trade school or something 05:47 < MadCamel> nice 05:47 < mal_will> She has POINTY door frames 05:47 < mal_will> M o n e y 05:47 < Davnit> i want my front door to be diamond shaped 05:48 < Davnit> also made out of diamonds 05:48 < torquellini> Rhomboid or gtfo 05:48 < mal_will> https://youtu.be/jh65HFArNu8 05:48 < torquellini> NO WAIT 05:48 < mal_will> Sorry for the Shane dawson 05:48 < torquellini> SPHERICAL DOORS 05:48 < enix> so fucked 05:48 < Davnit> shane dawson has $$$ too 05:48 < torquellini> Don't apologize for my gay banana mal_will 05:49 < mal_will> Like a rotating bank door torquellini ? 05:49 < MadCamel> I want to be rich enough to live undisturbed in a shack in the woods, off-grid except for gigabit internet and pizza delivery. 05:49 < mal_will> I'm not into shane 05:49 < torquellini> Nah like a straight up globe 05:49 < mal_will> Yeah graveyard girl hides most of her house but you see some junk 05:49 < mal_will> Ultimate mantrap torquellini so secure 05:54 < mal_will> Even her chairs look hella expensive 05:54 < enix> i want to punch her face 05:55 < mal_will> I'm sure she feels the same about you <3 05:55 < mal_will> Probably not 05:55 < torquellini> I'll punch your face 05:56 < Church-> MadCamel: That'd be nice. 05:56 < enix> torquellini: I WILL FUCKING SKULL FUCK YOU 05:56 < torquellini> No don't 05:56 < enix> ok 05:56 < torquellini> You'll arouse me 05:57 < enix> hahahaha 05:57 < Disconsented> enix> Okay hartman 05:59 < JollyRgrs> enix: no you won't 05:59 < JollyRgrs> no one will ever do that when they say they will 05:59 < JollyRgrs> empty promises 05:59 < JollyRgrs> and now torquellini will be aroused for nothing 06:00 < mal_will> Poor torquellini 's penne 06:00 < torquellini> :( 06:00 < Davnit> F 06:00 < mal_will> The pasta did nothing wrong 06:00 < JollyRgrs> F 06:00 < enix> Disconsented: huh? 06:01 < enix> My agenda for the day is: 1) Dont be bothered, 2) Re-evaluate list and reprioritize. 06:04 < Disconsented> https://youtu.be/3j3_iPskjxk?t=4m54s 06:06 < E-werd> bai 06:06 < enix> LOL 06:07 < enix> Disconsented: is that where that's from 06:07 < enix> I legitimately just thought it was teh act of cramming your cock so far down someones throat and violently fucking them 06:07 < enix> which sounds like fun 06:07 < enix> You know... if it reaches that far back 06:11 < torquellini> Start shitting me tiffany cuff link 06:11 < torquellini> I fucking love that movie 06:15 < Disconsented> Too bad R. Lee Ermey died a month ago 06:26 < Casteil> time for some gutter guards 06:26 < Casteil> I've had this house for ~7 months and cleaned the gutters at least 3 times 06:26 < Casteil> just got a heavy rain and gutters were overflowing again because of the crap the maple near my house dropped on the roof/in the gutter 06:27 < eHAPPY> any reason a VMware key wont attach to my account but activates fine? 06:30 < MadCamel> train the squirrels to empty your gutters. pay them in food. 06:37 < enix> Nostalg14c: you're very quiet lately 07:32 < torquellini> You know what the best part about scooping peanut butter into your face in the middle of the night 07:33 < torquellini> Putting the spoon in the peanut butter, taking the peanut butter out, putting the peanut butter in my mouth, tasting the peanut butter 07:33 < torquellini> The time of night is pretty alright too 07:38 < enix> torquellini: peanut butter cravings are typically associated with periods of unhealthy stress or deficiencies in your diet. 07:38 < nohusuro> enix: or peanut butter is just damned delicious 07:38 < torquellini> Unhealthy stress sounds about right 07:39 < torquellini> I am definitely a stress eater 07:39 < enix> nohusuro: Not neccersarily 07:39 < enix> tbh though I wouldnt mind some peanut butter 07:40 < nohusuro> sometimes when I get home and haven't cooked dinner yet, I will eat a teaspoon of peanut butter and have a cup of tea to stem any hunger pangs 07:40 < enix> Yeah that's pretty normal 07:41 < enix> I used to do it while body building, because I'd be awake till about 3am in the morning but met all my macros for the day and needed to tide myself over until I slept 07:41 < enix> peanut butter is fantastic 07:42 < nohusuro> I'm so glad we decommissioned one of our NAS boxes years ago, we've been using it for backup archives since, and yesterday it decided to drop one of the drives out of the RAID without warning 07:43 < nohusuro> upon rebooting it told us that drive had failed, so we replaced it with a new one 07:43 < nohusuro> then boom. it tells us four drives have failed 07:43 < torquellini> Did you replace it with peanut butter 07:43 < nohusuro> they've obviously been dying for a while, but the NAS was so garbage that it didn't tell us 07:43 < nohusuro> so happy we replaced it with nimble arrays instead 07:45 < nohusuro> the old system is so garbage, we pulled out a disk, and it still thinks it's connected. 07:45 < nohusuro> I can run a smart check on it and everything 07:45 < nohusuro> pulled 4 disks, only 3 missing in the webui 07:45 < nohusuro> xD 07:46 < enix> You can run a smart check on a disk that doesn't exist 08:04 < nohusuro> just had a laptop returned from warranty, ended up replacing the motherboard. the user setup bitlocker and didn't record their recovery key :/. Sorry man, your shit is gone. 08:21 < enix> oooucchh 08:22 < enix> to be fair though I wouldn't know my own 08:27 < JoShi> could anyone point me into a direction on how to create a user account that only has access to 1 website and MS Word? 08:30 < enix> JoShi: google.com 08:30 < enix> Windows or Linux? 08:30 < JoShi> windows 08:31 < enix> https://windows.gadgethacks.com/how-to/restrict-guest-users-one-app-windows-10-0164584/ 08:31 < enix> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/556044 08:32 < nohusuro> enix, it wasn't so bad, it turns out they have most of their files on dropbox 08:32 < Apooti_> mornin' nerds 08:32 < nohusuro> but I don't know how they happened to enable bitlocker without realising what they were doing 08:32 < nohusuro> I'm imaging the drive before wiping it in-case they find where they kept the recovery key 08:32 < enix> dont you enable it when you install 08:32 * nohusuro shrugs 08:33 < enix> honestly ive never used it but i think it's configured on install once 08:33 < nohusuro> I'm just the middle man with this laptop, it's a one of the owners family members laptops 08:33 < xe0n> middle man...you're the meat in the sandwich 08:33 < nohusuro> mmm 08:33 < nohusuro> meat 08:34 < nohusuro> mm 08:34 < nohusuro> sammich 08:35 < xe0n> open face club sandwedge 08:35 < enix> open wide 08:35 < enix> come inside 08:37 < Apooti_> any recommendations for a good label printer? mostly for marking cables but also for anything else such as crates etc etc 08:37 < enix> whatevers cheap 08:37 < xe0n> dymo 08:37 < enix> cheap for sticker thingies 08:37 < MillerBOSS> https://www.amazon.com/DYMO-LetraTag-LT-100H-Handheld-21455/dp/B000II09IM Apooti_ 08:37 < Apooti_> i dont mind cheap or not, i just need it to work well and preferably have some sort of API 08:37 < MillerBOSS> Works awesome 08:38 < MillerBOSS> Hopefully you can find it in your country 08:38 < xe0n> Apooti_: dymo does 08:38 < xe0n> we use the API here to do our labels 08:38 < Apooti_> MillerBOSS, i dont think we have dymo here 08:38 < Apooti_> scratch that, we do have 08:38 < MillerBOSS> What country are you in? 08:39 < Apooti_> Israel 08:39 < MillerBOSS> Amazon there? 08:39 < xe0n> Apooti_: we use a internal app to do our labelling, which uses the dymo print API 08:39 < Apooti_> i need a local supplier so i can get a service contract with it 08:40 < Apooti_> i'll end up buying 5+ of these if i find what i need 08:40 < MillerBOSS> Really? They thing is very inexpensive Apooti_ 08:40 < MillerBOSS> The* 08:40 < Apooti_> the labels end up being fairly expensive though 08:40 < Apooti_> so far i've been working with Brother's P-Touch series 08:40 < Apooti_> and they're meh 08:41 < Apooti_> was looking at the Zebra industrial printers but none of them have tape fit for labeling cables 08:42 < Apooti_> i do have one Zebra ZT410 and its awesome for what it does, but shit at labeling cables 08:43 < xe0n> Apooti_: http://www.dymo.com/en-AU/dymo-labeling-needs/wire-cable-labeling/wire-cable-labeling/xtl%3Csup%3E%E2%84%A2%3C-sup%3E-300-xtl-300--1016 08:43 < Apooti_> xe0n, yea, im looking at the XTL 300 and 500 right now, looks cool 08:45 < MillerBOSS> Wow that labeler 08:45 < MillerBOSS> Maybe I need one of those 08:48 < Apooti_> i think ill actually go for the XTL 500, looks really neat 09:33 < enix> I cannot wait to leave this job holy shit 09:34 < PrincessZoey> hey 09:35 < Apooti_> enix, how bad is it? 09:35 < Apooti_> PrincessZoey, yo 09:35 < enix> Pretty bad 09:35 < enix> PrincessZoey: long time no see 09:35 < PrincessZoey> I never realized losing your job that you've been at the longest and put your heart and soul to sucks :/ 09:36 < Apooti_> enix, as bad as a beer that's been left open for two days? 09:36 < PrincessZoey> just signed everything over officially 09:36 < enix> About the same yeah Apooti_ 09:36 < Apooti_> enix, damn, that sucks 09:36 < enix> PrincessZoey: ouch :\ what happened 09:37 < Apooti_> PrincessZoey, i know that feel, last time i even got to watch everything fall apart prior to actually leaving 09:37 < PrincessZoey> I'm moving next month, and even thought I work remote now, they refused to let me work remote after I move. 09:37 < PrincessZoey> they're leaving with 1.5 broken daily machines and broken wifi 09:38 < PrincessZoey> they wanted my work laptop back but I laughed in their face. 09:38 < MadCamel> well, new area, new opportunities? 09:38 < PrincessZoey> that's the hope. 09:38 < PrincessZoey> I do have a question for y'all 09:39 < Apooti_> PrincessZoey, did you already find something else or are you taking some time off before job hunting? 09:39 < PrincessZoey> taking time off. 09:39 < PrincessZoey> too much bullshit to take care of RL here 09:39 < Apooti_> PrincessZoey, as long as you have the financial ability to do so, its probably the best option between jobs 09:39 < PrincessZoey> I have all my job stuff still on linkedin. what do I say if they want to talk my boss. 09:39 < PrincessZoey> we did NOT leave on good terms 09:40 < Apooti_> PrincessZoey, how much of a douche was he? 09:40 < PrincessZoey> me refusing to give back my work laptop was the last straw (there was no legal way they could have demanded it back) 09:41 < PrincessZoey> my work laptop was written off and tossed in the pile to be sent for ewaste, has a ton of parts I paid for out of my money, and I mailed them the SSD with all the "company data" on it (which was none) 09:42 < MadCamel> Depending on the size of the company they may not even want to talk to your old boss. If they do, in most cases, it's just to verify you worked there. They can't really discuss anything else without possible legal liability. 09:42 < PrincessZoey> they were up in arms about the quickbooks company file that 1) I don't keep on my laptop, 2) don't have a login for, 3) don't have quickbooks installed, and 4) never dealt with. 09:42 < MadCamel> So if they ask, just say that you don't feel it would be appropriate and provide a means to verify that you were previously employed there 09:42 < Apooti_> ^ 09:43 < PrincessZoey> otherwise I have a 14 year gap in my job history 09:45 < Apooti_> PrincessZoey, after 14 years i guess you should have some sort of proof other than your boss's word 09:48 < PrincessZoey> my boss knew nothing of what I did 09:48 < PrincessZoey> because they never saw anything broken 09:48 < PrincessZoey> because I was the kind of girl that'd get an alerting monitor at 2am, drive to the office to take care of the problem, do other maintence until around 6am, say hi to my boss, then drive 3 hours to go to college. 09:49 < MadCamel> another tip.. apply for positions that you think are way above your previous experience. Just make sure they're not above your learning ability. Gives you the chance to make more money, obviously. But the non-obvious thing is that the higher the position, the less applicants. 09:49 < MadCamel> So you gain a chance at getting personal attention and perhaps getting a gig you thought had 0 chance at getting 09:50 < PrincessZoey> I almost got a 2nd interview for a devops engineer in CA. I turned it down once I heard the price, and what my friend in the same position made. 09:51 < PrincessZoey> they offered me $55K a year, my friend in the same position makes $110,000 09:51 < MadCamel> ... 55k/year... in CA? That's like live-in-your-car wages 09:53 < PrincessZoey> yeah. 09:53 < PrincessZoey> and they accidentally let it slip I was 100% being considered for being a diversity hire. 09:53 < PrincessZoey> because they can't get girls in that department to save their souls 09:53 < Apooti_> nice... 09:54 * MadCamel facepalms 09:55 < MadCamel> well.. I guess if you wanted you could use the diversity-hire thing to your advantage, but I personally think any company that hires based on gender instead of skill probably wouldn't be a great place to work 09:56 < PrincessZoey> I mean I have the skills in what I applied for kinda. 09:56 < Apooti_> MadCamel, "diversity-hire" can be a tie breaker between two candidates but shouldn't be the sole reason for hire 09:56 < PrincessZoey> (if you remove the I use Ansible for a living and they're all chef thing) 09:56 < MadCamel> Apooti_: good point 09:57 < PrincessZoey> the boss looked at my resume and said he wanted me not knowing I was female 09:57 < Apooti_> PrincessZoey, if you managed to pick up Ansible, then it shouldn't be hard to swap over to chef 09:59 < MadCamel> yeeh ell cunffeegooreshun munegement systems hefe-a a lut in cummun. ifee svedeesh cheff 10:01 < MadCamel> my favorite this year is nixos though. entire os is declarative configured from a single file. Built from the ground up to be like that. Makes puppet/chef/ansible look like horrible hacks in comparison 10:03 < togen> if only Ansible, Puppet, Chef or Salt ever hired a tech writer 10:03 < togen> or much of the FOSS for that matter 10:04 < MadCamel> mmm. tech writers seem in very short supply indeed 10:04 < Apooti_> MadCamel, best os is TempleOS 10:05 < Apooti_> no need to configuration management since there's no networking 10:05 < MadCamel> I remember the old SunOS documentation, BSDi too. Good stuff. 10:05 < togen> IBM Knowledge base is OP 10:05 < togen> Red Hat isn't too bad but I work with ubuntu 10:06 < MadCamel> Apooti_: TempleOS causes brain damage though 10:14 < Apooti_> MadCamel, its a feature, not a bug 10:38 < PrincessZoey> god I love my fiancee. 10:44 < Apooti_> PrincessZoey, isn't that how it's supposed to work? 10:45 < PrincessZoey> I mentioned that I wanted to go back to college to get a better job. 10:45 < PrincessZoey> he flat out said "Then do it, your income isn't a priority anymore" 10:47 < ihre> s/fiancee/sugardaddy 10:47 < ihre> :3 10:47 < ihre> hmmmmm to go to reinvent or not :| 11:19 < Roxamis> hey guys is there a way to make anywhere access vpn clients to use the Domain DNS server? 11:23 < Hatsjoe> Roxamis: you can push the DNS server the client should use via the VPN server 11:24 < Hatsjoe> ihre: you should go, I 11:24 < Hatsjoe> I'll maybe go too 11:29 < ihre> maybe just for vegas 11:29 < ihre> fuck aws 11:29 < ihre> ;D 11:29 < Roxamis> Hatsjoe, I used the anywhere accesss wizard to setup the vpn 11:31 < Roxamis> i think it pushes the correct dns server info 11:38 < Hatsjoe> Roxamis: I only have experience with manual VPN configurations and setups so can't help you with 'Anywhere'. 11:38 < Hatsjoe> But normally you need to manually define any DNS servers you want to push via VPN 11:38 < Hatsjoe> ihre: agreed, lets gamble 11:39 < Roxamis> Hatsjoe, vpn clients get settings from dhcp, as far as i can tell, that gives also dns server address, but client uses the main connection dns (home router/isp) 11:41 < Roxamis> Hatsjoe, is there any config i need to di client side? 11:48 < ihre> https://kubernetes.io/docs/concepts/service-catalog/ this is pretty sweet 11:51 < ihre> Hatsjoe: i'll sign up for a ticket at work, its being raffled between 4 people as it appears 11:53 < PrincessZoey> ...my fiancee is going to kill me 12:05 < Apooti_> PrincessZoey, that escalated quickly from "I love him" to "he is going to kill me" 12:10 < PrincessZoey> I was looking at insurance on the marketplace and I used his current address not planning on applying for anything. on the page it's supposed to display your options it said it applied to Arkansas Medicaid for me 12:32 < PrincessZoey> mfw it's faster to find the git code you need downloading it via github than looking through your system 12:33 < audia5> if you won on lottery powerball many millions who would you tell it :) 12:39 < PrincessZoey> let's see if this works... 12:42 < Apooti_> uhhh... i'm not a SUSE guy, so maybe i'm missing some keywords in google but... is SLES12 SP4 even available? 12:42 < Apooti_> note the SP4, not SP3 12:46 < FenJai> Sup dudes 12:46 < Apooti_> yo 12:47 < PrincessZoey> work demanded my work laptop back. I said over my dead body 12:48 < PrincessZoey> any other company I'd do it no problem 12:48 < FenJai> You got a new job PrincessZoey ? 12:48 < PrincessZoey> no 12:49 < PrincessZoey> 1) they wrote the laptop off years ago and it spent 3+ years waiting to get hauled off to ewaste recycling. 2) there's a bunch of my own parts in it, 3) Everything they worried about was proven false 12:51 < PrincessZoey> they were terrified I'd reek havoc with having a copy of the company file. 1)I don't have a copy. 2) the copy I had is over 5 years old now, 3) I don't have the proper username and password to login because I make everyone use a non stupid password, and if I saw a stick it on a PC I expired the password. 13:02 < xe0n> lolll 13:02 < xe0n> did you actually say "over your dead body" 13:04 < PrincessZoey> yep 13:04 < PrincessZoey> it's 6 years old and work wrote it off years ago 13:07 < PrincessZoey> the sad thing is it's more powerful than my desktop if it had a better GPU 13:08 < FenJai> I bet is a brick though 13:08 < FenJai> Heavy as fuck 13:08 < PrincessZoey> yeah it is 13:08 < PrincessZoey> it's 2.5x my personal laptop 13:09 < PrincessZoey> but I'd put up with a brick for a quad core with hyperthreading high end i7, 32gb of ram and a 250gb SSD. 13:09 < PrincessZoey> I just wish the display wasn't awful 13:10 < PrincessZoey> dumb question, how is my letsencrypt script still issuing test scripts with certbot certonly --agree-tos -a standalone -m {{ cfemail }} -d {{domainLong}} -d www.{{domainLong}}? 13:11 < PrincessZoey> oh, wrong branch 13:13 < PrincessZoey> checked out my testing branch instead of live 13:15 < PrincessZoey> now I wonder what old ass version of PHP it just installed 13:25 < rhqq> fuck, it's raining 13:25 < rhqq> and my only mean of transport i can use is a bike :/ 13:27 < ihre> you pleb 13:28 < rhqq> haha 13:28 < rhqq> look at yourself 13:28 < rhqq> ;p 13:28 < ihre> i dont even have a bike 13:29 < rhqq> oh man, you dont fit your own country ;p 13:29 < ihre> well that depends on your pov 13:29 < ihre> it was stolen half a year ago 13:29 < ihre> so that fits the netherlands alright 13:29 < rhqq> its said you buy only first bike up there 13:29 < rhqq> ;p 13:29 < ihre> yup 13:29 < rhqq> so now you can use anyones 13:29 < rhqq> ;-) 13:30 < ihre> i use commie transport 13:30 < ihre> 'our trains, our trams' 13:30 < ihre> :P 13:30 < rhqq> it would be a commie transport if it was "free" 13:30 < rhqq> but holding you hostage until last stop 13:31 < rhqq> then beating the shit out of you 13:31 < ihre> well i dont have to pay a dime for it, $boss does :p 13:31 < rhqq> and eventually killing if they figure out you actually used a car for once 13:31 < rhqq> ;p 13:54 < CheckYourSix> Ok, Tuesday is already worse than Monday. The stupid fucks that set up the entire telecom room at this site have redundant fiber. What's the power for those things plugged into? A fucking residential grade Walmart power strip with no battery backup or anything... So if the power drops for even a second, like this morning, the internet dies until those things come back online.... And on top of that, the phone gateways are plugged 13:54 < CheckYourSix> into non redundant power too... I got a call from the AT&T woman asking what's going on. Luckily everything only dropped offline for 20 minutes after a 2 second power blip, but still. How are people who set this shit up still employed? Oh, and the UPS is saying it needs new batteries and wants attention. It's an ancient APC and it probably doesn't last long. Fucks. I've only been here 30 minutes and I've already had too much 13:54 < CheckYourSix> stupid for one day. 13:56 < rhqq> well, it's not your fault, then what's the fuss 13:57 < rhqq> geez, not surprised that many people in IT are burning out or having mental issues 13:57 < PEG> a client has gerrit repo, how do I connect to it with Visual Studio Code ? 13:57 < rhqq> you stress over something that you have no control over. that's pointless 13:57 < CheckYourSix> Because now I have to call IT and get them to fix all that so it's not a problem going forward. One more project to manage 13:57 < rhqq> they pay you for that 13:58 < rhqq> and that's absolutely nothing unusual 13:58 < rhqq> especially that sounds like few calls and emails 13:58 < CheckYourSix> Stress? Not really. Just can't understand why people are so fucking stupid 13:58 < rhqq> they are. that's like you know, function that always returns `true` 13:58 < CheckYourSix> Haha yeah 13:59 < CheckYourSix> Finding people who give a shit and know what they're doing seems to get harder and harder 13:59 < rhqq> not really 13:59 < rhqq> it's been difficult for ages 13:59 < rhqq> in every single profession 13:59 < CheckYourSix> I know it's in every profession 14:00 < rhqq> you just ended up bumping into a potential idiot 14:00 < L3gacy> Morning peeps 14:00 < L3gacy> My chest and right arm are ACHING. 14:00 * L3gacy hates racking servers 14:00 < CheckYourSix> This was all set up long before I got here and whoever did it is long gone from years ago 14:01 < L3gacy> Morning, CheckYourSix 14:01 < rhqq> well, maybe they didn't have anything to use and the requirement for that time was "to get it up asap at any cost" 14:01 < CheckYourSix> So I fix everything I run into. So far that's a ton of stuff in this facility 14:01 < CheckYourSix> Morning 14:01 < CheckYourSix> That's probably true 14:01 < rhqq> so again 14:01 < rhqq> they might have did their job just right 14:01 * L3gacy slides CheckYourSix a blt with garlic aioli on toasted briioche bread 14:01 < rhqq> your predecessor most likely fucked up by not leaving any appropriate note 14:02 < rhqq> so seem to be even blaming wrong people :-) 14:02 < L3gacy> I document ALL the things. Even if a screw is missing :P 14:02 < CheckYourSix> Keep in mind too this is a megacorp and there's no excuse. They have money to no end. 14:02 * L3gacy is missing a screw or 3 14:02 < CheckYourSix> Haha 14:02 < rhqq> nooooo, IT does not produce income, right? 14:02 < rhqq> ;p 14:02 < L3gacy> I'm about to re cable my homlab 14:02 < rhqq> s/income/profit 14:02 < L3gacy> diff color cable for each server, diff color for iLO 14:03 < CheckYourSix> Not directly. But IT damn sure affects revenue and profit 14:03 < L3gacy> I got a 24 port Csico gb switch :) 14:03 < CheckYourSix> Nice 14:03 < rhqq> CheckYourSix: i know, i was making a reference to typical accounting dept whore 14:03 < L3gacy> So.... It's ONT > pfsense > G1100 router, and 24 port switch, then from switch to each server :) 14:03 < L3gacy> or should I try VyOS? 14:04 < CheckYourSix> Yeah. Bean counters see black and white and what the numbers on the page are. They don't see the big picture 14:04 < rhqq> anyway, it stopped raining, going to my accountant... >.> 14:04 < CheckYourSix> Have fun 14:04 < L3gacy> I'm getting a Dell PE R410 with two 6 core 12 threads and 72GB for free today :) 14:04 < L3gacy> Old job decomming :) 14:05 < L3gacy> No drives, tho 14:05 < CheckYourSix> The ram is worth money 14:05 < L3gacy> ESXI time! 14:05 < CheckYourSix> Unless it's 4gb, then not so much 14:05 < L3gacy> 8GB DDR3 Regged 14:05 < L3gacy> I have a ton of 1, and 2 gb sticks of that... 14:06 < CheckYourSix> Oh and my AD account already got locked out this morning for nothing... They've been randomly locking accounts for no reason lately. Happened to some coworkers too 14:06 < L3gacy> off to a job site... take care 14:07 < SynMonger> I had a user tell me their account kept getting locked out. I was wracking my brain trying to figure out why 14:08 < CheckYourSix> My coworker had it happen to him 2 times... 14:08 < SynMonger> Turns out my boss added a static nat entry for them so they could remote in to their computer but didn't tell me and it was open to the world 14:08 < CheckYourSix> Wow 14:09 < CheckYourSix> I know that's not a problem here 14:10 < CheckYourSix> They're probably screwing up and thinking the accounts are inactive so they're locking them. They shut off my phone TWICE because it was listed inactive 14:10 < Casteil> lmfao 14:11 < CheckYourSix> Once when I was in AZ for a work trip. I was dead in the water for a day 14:11 < Casteil> "lets design a new way of doing commissions and not fucking tell ANYONE, then start bitching that there's not a way to get the information that was never requested!" 14:12 < giant_it_burrit> morning bby 14:21 < asimon> Good morning my friends 14:31 < SynMonger> isn't it a bit early for badmin abuse? 14:35 < corn266> mornin all 14:38 < McDonaldsWiFi> hello 14:41 < corn266> https://i.redditmedia.com/pzf8QRXNhHIVduBYb-shs_1jFNW8FqY0gPPAGEXwRZo.jpg?s=5b586888a0f19629b1f88b94cc9e7ca3 14:43 <@cryptic1> SynMonger, abuse? hardly 14:43 <@cryptic1> morning everyone 14:43 < ihre> a b u s e @ c r y p t i c 1 . c o m 14:43 <@cryptic1> SynMonger, he was warned multiple times last night 14:43 < ihre> for complaints 14:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> real talk 14:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> How many days lead time do you guys require for equipment and access and all that? 14:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> for new users 14:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> i'm sick of "$person is starting tomorrow" bullshit 14:44 < corn266> 7 days is what I've usually seen 14:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> yeah 7 is what I'm gunning for 14:44 < corn266> s/days/business days 14:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> did'nt know if that was too try hardish 14:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> 5 business days 14:45 < ihre> new job McDonaldsWiFi? 14:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> nah but its complicated 14:45 < corn266> 6 business days and I'll throw in some free hand sanitizer 14:45 < asimon> McDonaldsWiFi: I feel you - I've gotten the "hey $newemployee arrived at 8:00 this morning can you get them set up with a full computer system and mailbox yesterday?" 14:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> we merged with another company, and our old IT ways aren't cutting it anymore 14:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> asimon: those requests make my brain bleed lol 14:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> I usually tell them too bad tbh 14:45 < ihre> not agile enough?! 14:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> It's to the point where I'm having to schedule time to do anything, no way I'm ruining my schedule ecause they couldn't tell me a week ago they were interviewing people 14:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> idk, I'm pissy today and i'm whisper in some ears to get this policy put in lol 14:46 < corn266> McDonaldsWiFi: can't you offload that on the helldesk guys? 14:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> corn266: it's a SMB (kinda) 14:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> there's 2 admins 14:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> who do it all 14:48 < ihre> :( 14:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> I've been telling them I need a helpdesk guy but you guys know how that probably went 14:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol 14:48 < corn266> nevermind then 14:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> 1100+ users with tech 14:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> 2 IT 14:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> I need a 7 day lead time dammit 14:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> xD 14:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> well I feel better lol 14:49 < ihre> jeez, sounds like the company i left ~2months ago ;p 14:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> When I go bitchin today I will at least know my demands aren't too high 14:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> sigh 14:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> because of the merge and whatnot they are changing pretty much ALL operations around 14:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> but they aren't including IT in these changes until its on fire 14:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> this sounds like a rant post on /r/sysadmin lol 14:49 < Nightcinder> ... 14:49 < Nightcinder> my outlook keeps switching from black to colorful 14:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> you have a black outlook 14:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> you can have themes in outlook...? 14:50 < ihre> very grim 14:50 < Nightcinder> yes? 14:50 < Nightcinder> file options theme 14:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> i... never even thought of that 14:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> I want dark theme 14:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> Nightcinder: I love you 14:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> okay enough of my spam today, afk a min lol 14:50 < asimon> The themes are honeslty kind of weird 14:50 < Nightcinder> message body is still white tho 14:50 < asimon> Exactly 14:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> Nightcinder: oh nevermind :( 14:50 < asimon> Same with word and shit 14:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> I wish file explorer had a dark theme 14:51 < Nightcinder> soon! 14:51 < asimon> The UI theme is nice but because it doesn't propagate to the main content body it just adds a shitton of contrast 14:51 < Nightcinder> MS just put it into the latest preview 14:51 < Nightcinder> https://www.howtogeek.com/fyi/microsoft-adds-a-dark-theme-to-file-explorer-in-the-latest-windows-10-update/ 14:51 < Nightcinder> McDonaldsWiFi: ^^^^^ 14:51 < asimon> "But should you upgrade to the Insider builds? Probably not, if you use your PC for anything useful other than testing. " 14:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> you are the them god 14:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> theme* 14:52 < Nightcinder> insider is hit/miss 14:52 < Nightcinder> slow ring is fine 14:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> but its coming 14:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> if its in the works ya know 14:52 < Nightcinder> If you want to enable a dark theme on Windows 10 today, you can do that easily by just going to Settings > Personalization > Colors and changing the “choose your app mode” option to dark. That’ll change most of Windows to use a dark theme, but it won’t update your applications. 14:52 < Nightcinder> fyi 14:52 < Nightcinder> it changes the windows apps like settings 14:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> Windows 10 makes me want to run debian full time 14:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol 14:54 < Nightcinder> i <3 win10 14:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> if it wasn't for all the dam spying :( 14:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> I should wireshark my connnection and see how much they send 14:54 < Nightcinder> no more than win7 did 14:55 < McDonaldsWiFi> i don't believe that 14:55 < vinrock> thats only because they updated win7 to spy on you as well 14:55 < vinrock> but still, win10 spies a lot more 14:55 < vinrock> and ms has the ability to block and uninstall apps they dont like 14:55 < vinrock> its in the eula 14:55 < McDonaldsWiFi> windows 10 forces a lot of you too, settings, updates, etc 14:56 < Nightcinder> i picked up my phone yesterday and it was telling me what song was playing through my headphones 14:56 < vinrock> they store your bitlocker keys in ~the_cloud~ 14:56 < Nightcinder> however i was using youtube not spotify.. 14:56 < Nightcinder> it identified the song via leakage from my headphones 14:56 < Nightcinder> lol 14:56 < vinrock> aural leakage 14:59 < GreyKite> Nightcinder: that's right, don't you have some really nice open back headphones? 14:59 < Nightcinder> multiple 15:00 < Nightcinder> wearing closedbacks right now cause at work 15:03 < GreyKite> Yeah, my main pair is closed because I use them at work 15:04 < JollyRgrs> 83 tabs open in firefox... < 750MB memory used. not bad (not blank tabs either) 15:07 < Nightcinder> if i worked from home i'd use my expensive ones 15:10 < Nightcinder> ars whining about too many gestures on the home button now 15:10 < Nightcinder> can't please people 15:11 < Reverend> you guys over the pond seeing any net problems by any chance? 15:11 < FenJai> Pretty sure if they were they couldnt respond Reverend 15:12 < Reverend> oh yeah. 15:12 * Reverend facepalms 15:12 < vinrock> i got 5 bucks on level3 15:12 < Reverend> vinrock ++ 15:12 < Bru-> morn 15:12 < Reverend> mornin 15:12 < Bru-> man 15:12 < Bru-> i been messing with linux for a couple weeks now 15:12 < Bru-> its a good time 15:12 < Bru-> can be frustrating, but in a positive, challenging way 15:13 < Bru-> feel like itll help my IT brain 15:13 < Bru-> especially CLI 15:13 < Bru-> makes you think about what youre doing 15:13 < vinrock> it satisfies the inner nerd 15:13 < Bru-> it does 15:14 < Bru-> especially fun since i need to create docker instances for my home automation 15:14 < Hatter> lkjasdfhjlkdsfjlsFJLKW 15:14 < Hatter> I think it may be one of those days 15:14 < SynMonger> I'm fine with linux as long as I don't have to use it as my desktop OS 15:14 < Bru-> SynMonger: i mean there are distros that are very user friendly 15:14 < vinrock> im bout to switch to it for desktop 15:14 < Bru-> linux mint chocolate is especially 15:15 < vinrock> gona have to run windows in kvm with gpu passthru 15:15 < SynMonger> I used linux as my daily driver for a couple of years, I finally got fed up with it 15:16 < vinrock> i just figure if i use it as my desktop os im gona be forced to git gud real fast 15:16 < Nightcinder> so we had some exchange issues the other day 15:16 < Nightcinder> now i'm getting a ton of The following organization rejected your message: d73082a.ess.barracudanetworks.com. 15:16 < Bru-> vinrock: true dat 15:16 < Nightcinder> i can't tell if it's our cuda or theirs 15:16 < Nightcinder> :| 15:16 < SynMonger> I'll take it on my servers any day, but I don't want the hassle on my desktop 15:16 < Bru-> Windows is coming a long way 15:16 < Bru-> server wise too now 15:16 < Bru-> becoming more CLI 15:16 < Nightcinder> they're whitelisted and allowed in our barracuda but shows as rejected 15:17 < Bru-> with a browser front-end for GUI 15:17 < Nightcinder> instead of delivered 15:17 < vinrock> well what do the headers show 15:17 < Bru-> i need to really get my powershell-fu on 15:17 < Bru-> im WAAAAY behind 15:17 < vinrock> meh im not even gona waste a minute of my time learning ps 15:17 < Nightcinder> the diagnostic info is generated by our barracuda 15:17 < Nightcinder> but says the cloud blocked it 15:17 < Nightcinder> we don't use the cloud 15:18 < Nightcinder> Remote Server returned ' vinrock: im in a windows heavy environment 15:18 < Bru-> and region 15:18 < vinrock> ah 15:18 < Bru-> and i cant move geographically :( 15:18 < vinrock> im just using windows for domain controllers and workstations 15:19 < vinrock> everything else runs on linux 15:22 < Bru-> vinrock: you ldap them workstations in? 15:22 < vinrock> wat no ad 15:23 < vinrock> win7 workstations, server 2012 r2 dc's 15:23 < vinrock> when i say everything else i mean like, appliances n shit 15:29 < ebol4> good freaken morning people 15:29 < Bru-> oh 15:29 < ebol4> yeah that's right 15:29 < Bru-> vinrock: sorry i didnt process what you wrote correctly lol 15:29 < vinrock> hah np 15:29 < Bru-> morn ebol4 15:30 < Bru-> hmm 15:30 < Bru-> hassio installs within docker perfectly on xubuntu 15:30 < Bru-> but not mint 15:30 < Bru-> wtf m8 15:30 < ebol4> why do they have to keep making up new software 15:30 < ebol4> what the heck is hassio 15:30 < Bru-> home assistant 15:30 < ebol4> like in westworld 15:31 < ebol4> Ottomite my friend welcome to #reddit-sysadmin 15:32 < ebol4> oh ho ho bmurt my good man 15:32 < Hatter> ebol4: what are you the doorman 15:32 < Nightcinder> how the fuck 15:32 < Nightcinder> do i send encrypted email via barracuda 15:33 < Nightcinder> i tested encryption and it works but what's the trigger? 15:33 < corn266> Step 1: Download kleopatra 15:33 < asimon> Bru-: That's why I switched back to windows. Nothing seemed to work without a lot of workarounds in linux 15:33 < Nightcinder> i don't see anything to set the encryption 15:33 < GreyKite> asimon: really? what distro? 15:33 < corn266> Step 2: Use PGP 15:33 < asimon> GreyKite: I was on mint 15:33 < ebol4> Hatter: please step away from the entrance sir, there is a line of people waiting to come in 15:34 < asimon> Maybe because I was trying to babystep it and use mint as windows essentially 15:34 < Kayofeld> Hello There 15:34 < GreyKite> asimon: hmmmmm yeah, trying to make linux into windows requires workarounds 15:34 < corn266> Step 3: https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/8jh0m5/efail_vulnerability_undermines_pgp_smime_email/ 15:34 < asimon> But my yubikey wouldn't play nice, keepass was some shit, none of my games on steam worked 15:34 < ebol4> does steam work on 64-bit ubuntu yet without installing some 32-bit libraries 15:34 < asimon> It was too much 15:35 < GreyKite> asimon: you had issues with steam? weird 15:35 < ihre> vt-d ftw :3 15:35 < Kayofeld> GreyKite: "make linux into windows", don't understand this 15:35 < ihre> just pass your gpu to a win vm ;p 15:35 < GreyKite> Kayofeld: it usually doesn't go well 15:35 < asimon> Lol I tried that but of course I couldn't figure that out either 15:35 < asimon> it was so much easier to just reinstall windows and give up on it 15:36 < Kayofeld> GreyKite: using linux inside of windows, ok, but remaking windows as linux ... 15:36 < Kayofeld> Or use mint cinnamon 15:36 < Nightcinder> remake linux as windows 15:36 < Kayofeld> yeah, being french it is normal that my english sucks 15:36 < vinrock> oh snap i just found a palm treo 15:37 < ebol4> no real reason to install linux as main OS at this point imo, with the linux subsystem in windows now 15:37 < ebol4> unless you just like FOSS 15:37 < vinrock> this thing might be worth a brazillion hipsterbux by now 15:37 < corn266> Kayofeld: say "I would like to buy a hamburger" 15:37 < ebol4> has someone shot steve martin yet 15:37 < asimon> ./report ebol4 --fbi 15:37 < Kayofeld> corn266: aye woulde layke to by a hamburjer ? 15:38 < corn266> They tried in die hard 33 1/2 but it was just too difficult 15:38 < Kayofeld> ebol4: agreed 15:38 < ebol4> you also want to shoot steve martin 15:38 < Kayofeld> but in some cases... 15:38 < SynMonger> i'll gladly pay you tuesday for a hipsterburger today 15:40 < ebol4> but today tuesday 15:41 < ekaj> `bofh 15:42 < Nightcinder> .bofh 15:42 < corn266> ekaj layer-eight died 15:42 < Nightcinder> ur a layer eight 15:42 * corn266 is ded 15:50 < ravioli> happy monday 15:50 < ebol4> died a little inside and then i remembered it's tuesdee 15:50 < ebol4> which is marginally closer to friday 15:51 < ravioli> you're welcome 15:51 < ravioli> gotta put tuesday in perspective 15:51 < ravioli> it's not monday 15:52 < ebol4> maybe tuesday is worse because it's still extremely far from the weekend but you have no excuses because it's not monday 15:53 < ebol4> you could be having a bad tuesday and people will be like "it's not even monday you little binch baby" 15:53 < ebol4> "you want to see a really hard day? go back in time 24 hours you stupid moron. idiot" 15:53 < corn266> "binch baby" what 15:54 < hxcsp> binch baby 15:54 < ebol4> baby back binch 15:56 < Hatter> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSowZcvoqr4 15:56 < ebol4> i cannot click on links unless layer-eight tells me what it is 15:56 <@Code_Man65> Tough, layer-eight is dead 15:56 < ihre> tis time to crack the whip 15:56 < ebol4> i've been on this doggone earth too goddone long 15:56 < ebol4> DUDE, goddong 15:57 < ebol4> the electric whip 15:57 < ebol4> welcome to infinity whip's house of whipping 15:57 < Hatter> you can always trust my links 15:57 <@Code_Man65> As Devo said, when a problem comes along, you must whip it. 15:58 < ebol4> devo's a bunch of wild dudes. just whip it. lol 15:58 < Hatter> Code_Man65: I think it was in bad taste to have that song on the 12 years a slave soundtrack 15:59 < ebol4> is that song about inhaling compressed gas from the whipped cream cans 15:59 < Reverend> comcast is definitely having a problem or two 15:59 < Hatter> Reverend: url 16:00 < ebol4> cousin url 16:00 < Reverend> Hatter - no url. Just seeing out BGP flappage and twitter lighting up. 16:00 < Hatter> it looked like I might be having trouble for a bit 16:00 < Hatter> seems ok now 16:00 < Reverend> http://downdetector.com/status/comcast-xfinity 16:00 < Reverend> maybs :P 16:01 < asimon> What's the consensus on whether its safe to enter passwords into https://haveibeenpwned.com/ 16:02 < asimon> I don't trust it 16:02 < Reverend> you only need to put your email in 16:02 < insecurity> i trust Troy Hunt. 16:02 < Reverend> it will tell you if the password was compromised too 16:02 < insecurity> smart dude. 16:02 <@Code_Man65> It is a pretty well known site 16:02 < insecurity> and yeah if you put your password into an email field, you should have trust issues generally. 16:03 < asimon> I was referring more to this page: https://haveibeenpwned.com/Passwords 16:03 < Reverend> asimon - just pop your email / username in, and it'll tell ya if the password was in the leak at the same time. 16:03 < Reverend> chances are, if you're using a particular password, it will have bee compromised. Let me try with one of my sketch passwords 16:03 < asimon> I understand that, yeah 16:03 < ebol4> you should be using unique 256-character passwords on every website 16:03 < insecurity> dude it's a repository of previously-exposed passwords. 16:03 < JollyRgrs> I DLed that dump a little while back of "all the leaks combined" that were known... with plaintext email/password and did a grep for my family's emails 16:04 < JollyRgrs> pretty sure that's all downdetector is doing as well 16:04 < JollyRgrs> so you can search by email or by PW 16:04 < JollyRgrs> see how many people use Hunter2, etc./ 16:04 < insecurity> asimon: you can send hashes to the API if you don't want to enter in plain text. 16:04 < Reverend> JollyRgrs downdetector? 16:04 < ravioli> asimon: i trust that site 16:04 < JollyRgrs> Reverend: no, haveibeenpwnd or wahtever 16:04 < SynMonger> asimon: haveibeenpwned is legit 16:04 < Reverend> haha 16:04 < ravioli> i actually have it set up to email me whenever anyone on my @domain.com shows up on a list 16:04 < insecurity> we have a lot of dumps on hand and regularly dig up stuff like linkedin passwords for clients 16:04 < Reverend> ravioli ++ 16:04 < ravioli> works like a charm 16:05 < insecurity> nice ravioli 16:05 < JollyRgrs> insecurity: you check for if someone coming in for an interview is on the list, right? 16:05 < insecurity> hahahaha 16:05 < insecurity> maybe 16:05 < ravioli> https://haveibeenpwned.com/DomainSearch 16:05 < ravioli> ^^^^^ 16:05 < JollyRgrs> "we see you've been hacked... and your hacked PW is still current... kthxbai" 16:05 < insecurity> but mostly just use it to get intel on a client before a pen test 16:06 < asimon> I was just curious if anyone else was skeptical of entering a password in there. I trust the site and the api but it definitely could raise some eyebrows if I directed my friends to check if they've been compromised 16:06 < asimon> "Hey put your email and password into this tool and see how bad your cyber hygiene is!" 16:06 < asimon> Even if it actually is safe 16:06 < insecurity> u b ok 16:06 < ravioli> yeah. 16:06 < ebol4> yeah. 16:07 < insecurity> yes. 16:07 < Hatter> a good haveibeenpwned domain report is a good way to scare/impress executive types 16:07 < ebol4> at my last job, i found out on haveibeenpwned that some of our execs were in the rachel madison leak 16:07 <+A-KO> ashley* 16:07 < ebol4> ashley yeah 16:07 < ebol4> that one 16:07 <+A-KO> lol 16:08 < ebol4> who's rachel madison 16:08 < ravioli> one of my techs shows up as being on that leak 16:09 < Casteil> bah 16:09 * spstarr IS PRODUCT COMPLETE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 16:09 < spstarr> \o/ 16:09 < Casteil> want to run some EMT conduit for another outlet on my deck.. the wire's just as expensive as the conduit+fittings needed 16:14 < TuxedoJack> Woot. Everyone's off on Memorial Day but me 16:14 < TuxedoJack> But in trade I get $400 extra 16:14 < darkscrypt> morning rsa! 16:16 < JFDkthx> good news everyone, you're rbeathing manually and you can feel your tongue against the roof of you mouth 16:16 < corn266> Good thing I was just itching the top of my mouth with my tongue 16:17 < JFDkthx> that tickles 16:17 < ebol4> what day is memorial day 16:17 < McDonaldsWiFi> ebol4: I found out avery large coworker in my office ordered "vagina tightening cream" because her account was pwnd from the website 16:17 < corn266> Any SELinux people in here want to explain why antivirus_exec_t doesn't have execute access on an antivirus_db_t file? 16:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> ebol4: that website only sold that one product.. why 16:18 < corn266> ebol4: monday after next 16:18 < ebol4> that's soooo faaaarrr awaaaayyyyy 16:18 < ebol4> McDonaldsWiFi: that's the downside of IT 16:18 < corn266> Don't worry, it'll be next monday before you know it, then only a week left 16:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol 16:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> it's the same reason I disable the logging on my retropies 16:19 < ebol4> don't want anyone to know you were playing pacman 16:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> my roommate looks at weird shit 16:19 < ebol4> oh 16:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> xD 16:19 * spstarr grins at 'ebol4' (ebola) :p 16:19 < spstarr> you are malware! 16:19 < spstarr> :D 16:20 < ebol4> i am a disease 16:20 < JFDkthx> corn266: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html-single/selinux_users_and_administrators_guide/index 16:20 < JFDkthx> lite reading 16:20 * gavit is looking for a nice gui app for email hosting for postfix/dovecot or something similar 16:20 < ebol4> gavit: roundcube 16:20 < ebol4> is the standard i think 16:21 < spstarr> ebol4: just as bad :D 16:22 < Bru-> shiiiit 16:22 < Bru-> i didnt factor in USB pass through when i created the linux VM 16:22 < Bru-> NOOOO 16:22 < Bru-> in hyper-v 16:23 < ebol4> then perish 16:23 < TuxedoJack> In flames 16:27 < corn266> Will Silicon Valley get a Season 6 or was that it? 16:28 < syere> Well, i'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. I'm trying to get graylog rolled out here. But every time I get nxlog with GELF_TCP on the windows servers, at some point nxlog is causing the machines to hit 100% CPU usage. My guess is it's a storage I/O problem, but I don't have the access to get proof on that. Anyone got any ideas? 16:29 < JFDkthx> syere: nmap 16:29 < JFDkthx> rather 16:29 < syere> network scanning? 16:30 < JFDkthx> are you generating tons of files from that device 16:30 < ebol4> yeah did you try pinging it 16:30 < syere> before "the crash" we only pushed about 5gb total a day into it 16:30 < corn266> JFDkthx: I've been reading https://www.systutorials.com/docs/linux/man/8-antivirus_selinux/ and correlating it with the SELinux git repo definitions and how clamAV works to determine the types and they all seem correct 16:31 < JFDkthx> corn266: try resetting the flag on the file? 16:33 < ebol4> so tired of working in an open office 16:33 < ebol4> my manager sits directly across from me and he's on the phone ALL DAY 16:33 < syere> I made it 1.5 days in a open office environment before I quit 16:33 < JFDkthx> fuck this guide "Open configuration file with your favorite text editor, in this example we will use nano." 16:33 < ebol4> the whole day is just a cacophony of voices 16:34 < JFDkthx> corn266: https://www.hostinger.com/tutorials/how-to-install-clamav-centos7 is what im looking at 16:34 < JFDkthx> is it pretty similar? 16:34 < SynMonger> I share an office with someone but he's gone most of the day and the room is split with a T-shaped 6ft wall so I don't have to see him when he's here 16:35 < corn266> JFDkthx: nah because SELinux has automatic configurations for clamAV 16:35 < JFDkthx> kk 16:35 < corn266> https://github.com/fedora-selinux/selinux-policy-contrib/blob/rawhide/antivirus.fc combined with https://askubuntu.com/questions/114000/how-to-update-clamav-definitions-database 16:36 < Hatter> can I give an office 365 user access to just a single app 16:36 < Hatter> I'm pretty new to this 16:36 <@Code_Man65> Hatter: Be more specific 16:36 < Hatter> OneNote 16:36 <@Code_Man65> As in just one of the office apps? 16:36 < Hatter> yes 16:36 <@Code_Man65> You can customize what is installed by the C2R installer IIRC 16:37 < Hatter> oh sure I know what that means of course 16:38 <@Code_Man65> Click2Run 16:38 < Hatter> I know! 16:38 < TuxedoJack> FUCK CLick2Run 16:39 <@Code_Man65> TuxedoJack: Office 2019 only comes in a C2R 16:39 <@Code_Man65> No more MSI installer 16:39 < ebol4> my favorite was having to uninstall DVD office 2013 in order to install C2R office 2016 16:39 < TuxedoJack> Fuck it, and its devs, in every orifice with a spiked adamantium Bad Dragon toy covered in salt and lime juice 16:40 < ebol4> that's a santorum margerita 16:40 < asimon> Jesus TuxedoJck 16:40 < vinrock> microsoft won't let me buy any more copies of office 2016 16:40 < TuxedoJack> It's a fucking shitty piece of software and another way to foist fucking shit-ass UWP apps 16:41 < vinrock> cuz i just did it piece by piece instead of volume license 16:41 < Hatter> Code_Man65: but I can't allow single apps on the web versions? 16:41 <@Code_Man65> No hatter 16:41 < TuxedoJack> And I fucking hope Salesforce can't ever make a fucking UWP-compatible add-in for Outlook 16:41 < TuxedoJack> Just so MS shits itself when the legions of marketing fuckballs come down on them 16:41 <@Code_Man65> TuxedoJack: Salesforce has native Outlook intergration now 16:41 < ebol4> why would you need to limit access to office apps 16:41 <@Code_Man65> You don't need an add-in 16:42 <@Code_Man65> Actually to be more accurate, it has Exchange level integration 16:42 < TuxedoJack> Code_Man65: that's fucking retarded, just like Salesforce. Put the onus on the user machine, don't fuck with core infrastructure 16:43 <@Code_Man65> I'm not arguing 16:46 < TuxedoJack> Also, why the fuck did HCA use anything requiring Silverlight for the remote provider portal 16:46 < AnimalFarmPig> internet died at my house. So annoying. Problem with the ONT or connection between ONT & rest of network. :( 16:46 < TuxedoJack> Just install fucking Citrix / RD Gateway 16:46 < TuxedoJack> Doctors are bad enough as is, don't make it fucking worse by requiring IE 16:46 < rhqq> fucking fuck. my modem issue turned out to be arouter issue. 16:47 < JFDkthx> pebram 16:47 < Anaphylaxis> damn arouters. 16:48 < felda> TuxedoJack they were going to remove the Dynamics CRM Outlook plugin and then people cried so now they are forced to keep it for the huge v9 overhaul lmao 16:48 < rhqq> so i tested on 2 different modems (mpci-e and usb) and every hour, like 5 minutes past i have a weird issue when existing connections work, icmp work, but new tcp sessions and udp does not 16:49 < felda> that reminds me 16:49 < felda> RIP my overly customized CRM 16:50 < Reverend> Anyone here got kubernetes to manage their EC2 scaling for them? 16:50 < TuxedoJack> felda: fuck 'em 16:50 < Reverend> i.e. if you've got k8s running on EC2, is tehre a way to get it to do the scaling for you? 16:50 < felda> TuxedoJack are you enjoying the 30% licensing price increase from the old version? 16:51 < TuxedoJack> felda: no, because I don't fucking run that software 16:51 < felda> Do your customers use Salesforce? 16:51 < TuxedoJack> I would rather jam my boss's dick in my KitchenAid stand mixer and turn it on "ruin your shit" than use it 16:51 < TuxedoJack> And they do, but THEY pay for it directly 16:51 < TuxedoJack> Not me 16:51 < felda> lol 16:52 < Nightcinder> American Airlines bans emotional support amphibians, ferrets, goats and more 16:52 < TuxedoJack> And I'm serious, I'd rather ruin a perfectly good 1950s-era KitchenAid mixer than use Salesforce 16:52 < Nightcinder> rip my emotional support peacock 16:52 < darkscrypt> there needs to be an incense to burn that smells like new technology 16:52 < ebol4> noooooooo goats 16:52 < TuxedoJack> darkscrypt: just hook up an Etherkiller 16:52 < TuxedoJack> That'll do it for you, fire and all 16:52 < darkscrypt> lol 16:53 < darkscrypt> i haven't heard of an etherkiller in a long time 16:53 < darkscrypt> kicking it old school 16:53 < GreyKite> there are usbkillers now 16:53 < darkscrypt> i've seen them. 16:54 < darkscrypt> https://usbkill.com/ 16:54 < felda> TuxedoJack do you also have the joy of QuickBooks AND Neat Receipt software? 16:54 < GreyKite> dah, another reason to tell people to not plug in random usb sticks 16:55 < asimon> I love this 16:55 < darkscrypt> no idea why the police would use a usbkiller 16:55 < darkscrypt> what's the usecase for that? 16:56 < ebol4> why stop at dogs and black people 16:56 < GreyKite> what the fuck 16:57 < darkscrypt> GreyKite: yeah I'm just ignoring that. 16:57 < ebol4> o7 comrade 16:57 < AnimalFarmPig> not content with just killing your puppers, the cops now also kill your homelab 16:59 < asimon> Why can't I stop wwatching this usbkiller video 16:59 < dragonfleas> come into work this morning, one of our DC's is in a boot loop 16:59 < dragonfleas> fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk 16:59 < ebol4> you need help asimon 16:59 < Sousapro> lol I asked everyone about roaming profile alternatives a couple of times 16:59 < Sousapro> no one mentioned UE-V 16:59 < Sousapro> lmao 16:59 < darkscrypt> what is ue-v Sousapro 17:00 < ebol4> ultra enterprise vaseline 17:00 < Sousapro> darkscrypt: allows you to move settings between Windows PCs but without the nightmares of roaming profile 17:00 < Sousapro> User Experience Virtualization 17:00 < ebol4> makes the process smooth AF 17:00 < Sousapro> combine with folder redirection for smooth roaming 17:01 < Sousapro> also, UE-V is like a nothing to get working 17:01 < Sousapro> if you can use GPO and create SMB shares, you're all set 17:01 < Sousapro> like 10 minutes for PoC 17:01 < asimon> It destroyed his car 17:01 < asimon> wtffff 17:01 < asimon> I want one 17:02 < darkscrypt> lol. 17:02 * darkscrypt puts asimon in the database. 17:02 < darkscrypt> ez pz 17:03 < br14> sooo. I'm not having the RDP issues after applying the May update. wtf did I do wrong? 17:04 < Hatter> you sound disappointed 17:04 < ebol4> did you apply it to a server or to a client 17:04 < br14> client 17:04 < TuxedoJack> felda: are you kidding? Of course! 17:04 < ebol4> is the server up-to-date as well 17:04 < br14> I can connect to unpatched win 10 and server 2012. 17:04 < darkscrypt> br14: what rdp issues are you having? we have been having that too. 17:05 < darkscrypt> br14: is this where rdp randomly disconnects and you get channel errors? 17:05 < br14> I'm *not*, which oddly is the problem. 17:05 < darkscrypt> br14: that is the problem though, right? 17:05 < darkscrypt> br14: i'm just asking because thats been on my list of things to investigate 17:05 < darkscrypt> only new server 2016 boxes are doing it. I have about 20 17:05 < br14> darkscrypt: have you seen the notes on the CredSSP in the last months updates? 17:06 < br14> (i might have misspelled credssp) 17:06 < darkscrypt> you have the spelling right 17:06 < darkscrypt> you mean the CVE 17:06 < darkscrypt> I haven't read the notes, but i've known of the vuln 17:06 < ebol4> br14: on servers, the GPO at: Computer Configuration > Policies > Administrative Templates > System > Credentials Delegation > Encryption Oracle Remediation 17:06 < ebol4> determines whether or not unpatched servers/clients can communicated 17:07 < br14> darkscrypt: May's patch should resolve the issue with the effect of crippling RDP between patched and unpatched. 17:07 < darkscrypt> I think our issue started in august/september of 2017. may not be the same thing. 17:08 < br14> ebol4: this should create/modify a registry key correct? It's not there. 17:09 < ebol4> the GPO isn't there? 17:10 < dragonfleas> PDQ deploy is free right? 17:12 < JollyRgrs> free* 17:13 < JollyRgrs> *some features are not available in free version 17:13 < spstarr> FREE!!!!!!1 17:13 < darkscrypt> free as in free suffering. 17:13 < spstarr> wait.... what lootcrate is this? 17:13 < darkscrypt> new lootcrate contains RDS Cals for server 2003 17:13 < spstarr> is that a common, rare, epic or legendary crate? 17:13 < spstarr> or uncommon 17:14 < darkscrypt> epic 17:14 < spstarr> so purple :) 17:14 < technonerd> What is the float? 17:14 < spstarr> legendary is gold 17:16 < Anaphylaxis> float is my old name 17:16 <+A-KO> damnit 17:17 <+A-KO> I did something stupid 17:17 < GreyKite> no, you? never 17:17 < JollyRgrs> A-KO: well, you ahve to be more specific, we understand you've done stupid often 17:17 <+A-KO> stayed over this chick's place last night 17:17 < ihre> i <3 pbcopy/pbpaste :p 17:18 < corn266> Boom. AIDS 17:18 <+A-KO> now I'm tired as fuck 17:18 <+A-KO> and don't want to go into work today 17:18 < GreyKite> ...how is that any different than any other day? 17:18 < GreyKite> that's what caffeine is for 17:18 < corn266> Did you wash the stink off your dirk or are you gonna waft it at your coworkers 17:19 < TuxedoJack> Client moves to new MSP. New MSP runs the update that blanks static IPs on organization's main fileserver. New MSP e-mails us for help 17:19 <+A-KO> I'm about to jump in the shower right now :P 17:19 < TuxedoJack> Fukken lol 17:19 <+A-KO> lol TuxedoJack 17:20 <+A-KO> god I need to rethink thinking with my little head than my big one 17:20 < ebol4> drink a couple 5 hour energys and get to work 17:20 < corn266> A-KO: back to work 17:21 < ebol4> get to scrubbin 17:21 < corn266> Why was the cabbage patch dance not called scrubbin' 17:21 < JollyRgrs> corn266: because i said so! 17:22 < AnimalFarmPig> take a couple bumps of coke on your way in. You'll feel a lot better. 17:22 < corn266> Gotta pump those numbers up AnimalFarmPig 17:23 < JollyRgrs> TuxedoJack: did you laugh with or without mute engaged on teh phone? 17:23 < JollyRgrs> and if unmuted, was it loud enough so everyone else at the other MSP's office could hear it? 17:33 < TuxedoJack> It came in in a ticket 17:38 < mal_will> So management-anyone in here a manager? 17:39 < giant_it_burrit> go on 17:40 < ebol4> i have a manager 17:40 < JFDkthx> i was a manager 17:40 < giant_it_burrit> what mal_will 17:41 < mal_will> I just want to know if anyone went from technical to managing in here 17:41 < giant_it_burrit> o 17:41 < mal_will> bonus points for reverting back, in horror or shame 17:41 * giant_it_burrit waves 17:41 < mal_will> You currently manage? 17:41 < giant_it_burrit> i tryy to manage 17:41 < giant_it_burrit> but managing a herd of cats would be easier 17:41 < mal_will> lol, help desk, or? 17:42 < giant_it_burrit> users and security 17:44 < mal_will> Oh dang 17:44 < mal_will> I'm going to look into help desk and security management today. 17:44 < mal_will> Do you have dedicated security personnel? 17:44 <+A-KO> our security folks tried to move the goal post on a project yesterday 17:44 <+A-KO> I was like noooooooooooooooooooope 17:46 < ravioli> anyone in here really really knowledgable about electronic components like potentiometers? 17:46 < ebol4> i know about potentiometers, but only potentiometers 17:47 < mal_will> You're hired! 17:47 < ebol4> heck yeah 17:48 < ravioli> i want a spring-loaded push potentiometer. where the resistance increases when you push in on it, like a button. and it returns to being extended (with less resistance) when you release it. 17:48 < ravioli> the resistance should increase linearly (not boolean on/off) 17:49 < AnimalFarmPig> Could I include something like "As a user of this software, you acknowledge that Whataburger is superior in every way to In-n-Out Burger" in a EULA/TOS and then terminate users for violation of EULA/TOS if they ever disagree? 17:49 < ebol4> ravioli: it appears that these exist and are called "self return" or "spring return" potentiometers 17:50 < ravioli> ebol4: :* <3 17:50 < TuxedoJack> AnimalFarmPig: you better be fucking serious. Whataburger kicks In-N-Out's ass in so many goddamn ways 17:50 < ebol4> oh that's cool they're used for like motor scooter throttles 17:51 < AnimalFarmPig> TuxedoJack: 100% serious 17:51 < ebol4> you gonna build your own rascal ravioli 17:51 < felda> / ! \ NEW PFSENSE UPDATE / ! \ NEW PFSENSE UPDATE / ! \ NEW PFSENSE UPDATE / ! \ NEW PFSENSE UPDATE / ! \ NEW PFSENSE UPDATE / ! \ NEW PFSENSE UPDATE / ! \ 17:51 < felda> get it while it's hot 17:51 < AnimalFarmPig> TuxedoJack: Whataburger is pretty good. In-N-Out is complete shit. 17:51 < felda> it'll burn your mouth :D 17:51 < ebol4> AnimalFarmPig: what in the bajangus are you talking about 17:51 < TuxedoJack> AnimalFarmPig: honey barbecue chicken strip sandwich 17:51 < felda> Code_Man65 is just jealous he has nothing in life that excites him 17:52 <@Code_Man65> I have plenty in life that excites me 17:52 < TuxedoJack> Diabeetus, yes, but fucking GOOD diabeetus 17:52 < ThatOneRoadie> >In-N-Out is complete shit. 17:52 < Reverend> that reminds me, I need to prep the wings for the BBQ this weekend 17:52 < ThatOneRoadie> Ban this man 17:52 < AnimalFarmPig> ebol4: terminating service contracts / user accounts of people who like In-N-Out Burger 17:52 < int0x1C8> oh ffs I just downloaded the 2.4.3 images 17:52 < giant_it_burrit> Code_Man65: is kicking felda part of it? 17:52 < Reverend> giant_it_burrit always has been bruv 17:52 < Reverend> plenty of felda kickage in here :) 17:52 < mrghostman> hrmm...the arby's gyro aint terrible. dont @ me 17:52 < ebol4> i had a dream last night where i was in tucson, arizona and i had a cheeseburger that was presumably from in n out 17:53 < felda> Code_Man65 is the incel of this channel "Fuckin' Stacey firewalls won't install for me REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" 17:53 < ThatOneRoadie> sure, I'll grant you that In-N-Out isn't the best burger in the world 17:53 < ThatOneRoadie> but it's a damn sight better than most 17:53 < ebol4> americans be eating cheesed burger 17:54 < ThatOneRoadie> I'd argue that a #1 combo animal style (Double double and fries and a drink) is the best combo under $7 17:54 < AnimalFarmPig> arguing over the quality of fast food burgers is like arguing over the muzzle energy of pistol cartridges-- they're all pretty fucking poor in comparison to non-mass produced burgers / rifle cartridges. 17:54 < AnimalFarmPig> With that said, In-N-Out is pretty fucking below average even for a fast food burger 17:55 < ebol4> americans be eating cheesed bullets 17:55 < int0x1C8> mmm GIMME DAT FO FIVE 17:56 < AnimalFarmPig> but, srs, question about licensing terms-- would something like that hold up in court if I got sued? 17:56 < JFDkthx> afternoon nap time 17:56 < ThatOneRoadie> No 17:56 < JFDkthx> soooo sleeepy 17:56 < Nightcinder> GreyKite: i might sell my closed back hedfon 17:56 < ThatOneRoadie> you can't terminate based on favorite burger joints if it's not in your T&C's 17:56 < int0x1C8> AnimalFarmPig you forget glorious 10mm 17:57 < AnimalFarmPig> int0x1C8: 1cm 17:57 < ThatOneRoadie> you could update your T&C's and hope nobody reads the updates 17:57 < AnimalFarmPig> ThatOneRoadie: Im saying I would put it in the EULA/TOS 17:57 < ThatOneRoadie> int0x1C8: Ah, best millimeter! 17:57 < AnimalFarmPig> "Could I include something like "As a user of this software, you acknowledge that Whataburger is superior in every way to In-n-Out Burger" in a EULA/TOS and then terminate users for violation of EULA/TOS if they ever disagree?" 17:57 < JFDkthx> yeah 17:57 < JFDkthx> seems doable 17:57 < ThatOneRoadie> Well you could but that wouldn't hold up 17:57 < ebol4> 10mm is for vault 101 residents 17:58 < ThatOneRoadie> EULA's don't like absolutes 17:58 < giant_it_burrit> ebol4: i like my 10mm 17:58 < giant_it_burrit> it jsut runs away 17:58 < giant_it_burrit> into my engine bay 17:58 < AnimalFarmPig> it's kind of like json's license not allowing it to be used for evil 17:58 < giant_it_burrit> COME BACK 10MM SOCKET 17:58 < AnimalFarmPig> unless it's IBM, because they got a special exception from the author 17:58 < ThatOneRoadie> You could do "As a user of this software, you acknowledge that In-N-Out burger can not be the best burger." 17:58 < vinrock> 10mm socket is the most elusive of sockets 17:58 < AnimalFarmPig> ^ 17:59 < AnimalFarmPig> hmm.... interesting. I suppose it pays to have a lawyer write your EULA. 17:59 < mrghostman> one must have multiple 10mm. deep well, 12 point, etc 17:59 < onenerdyguy> So, anyone still use Roaming Profiles here? 17:59 < vinrock> yup 18:00 < vinrock> wait 18:00 < vinrock> no 18:00 < onenerdyguy> i'm attempting to kill them, but not finding a decent replacement 18:01 < vinrock> i dont have users that really move around but if they do i just have em sync their files to the backup location 18:01 < onenerdyguy> for us, this is users who basically 'hotdesk' between 8 computers 18:01 < onenerdyguy> folder redirection works to a point, but i need appdata and crap to sync too 18:01 < vinrock> in that instance i think roaming would be the way to go 18:02 < mal_will> Self pick ticketing portals and massive phone option trees are the death of helpdesk productivity 18:03 < GreyKite> Nightcinder: you don't like them? 18:03 < Nightcinder> i do 18:03 < Nightcinder> but money 18:03 < JFDkthx> onenerdyguy: yes 18:04 < onenerdyguy> JFDkthx, does it work? 18:04 < JFDkthx> yeah works p fucking great 18:04 < onenerdyguy> vinrock, i'd think so, if it didn't corrupt profiles every 3 days 18:04 < onenerdyguy> JFDkthx, win7 or 10 or what 18:04 < B_RAD1> block the internet 18:04 < JFDkthx> both 18:04 < B_RAD1> ban it all 18:04 < dragonfleas> why the fuck does secret server have so many pre-requisites 18:04 < onenerdyguy> JFDkthx, you also doing any folder redirection, or just pure roaming? 18:04 < dragonfleas> this software better be good 18:05 < B_RAD1> onenerdyguy, how's life? 18:05 < JFDkthx> most of our org is built around users having to switch buildings work locations. roaming profiles are fantastic here. pure roaming. 18:06 < onenerdyguy> B_RAD1, has it's ups and downs, but I've got 1 day left this week 18:06 < onenerdyguy> JFDkthx, hmm, I think that's our issue. We have both redirects and roams, and I think they're screwing each other over 18:06 < B_RAD1> onenerdyguy, like, at current jerb 18:06 < B_RAD1> ? 18:06 < B_RAD1> quitting? 18:08 < onenerdyguy> B_RAD1, ha no, going to rock on the range! vacation 18:10 < jaelae> hmm 18:10 < jaelae> i have to select a conference to go to 18:10 < jaelae> which shall it be this year 18:10 < onenerdyguy> jaelae, ignite? 18:10 < SynMonger> the one in a place you want to visit 18:10 < znpy> hello there :) 18:10 < jaelae> im thinking ignite in sept 18:10 < jaelae> or the aws one in november i believe 18:11 < jaelae> i did vmworld the past few years but this year i am on vacation that week so not going 18:11 < onenerdyguy> personally I'd do Ignite, as you'll get Azure there too 18:12 < jaelae> yea we are leaning more towards moving our app in some form to aws than azure but still 18:12 < onenerdyguy> ah 18:12 < jaelae> AWS conference is a little nutty though 18:12 < onenerdyguy> JFDkthx, when you say pure roaming, are you literally just pointing the profile variable in AD? 18:12 < AnimalFarmPig> jaelae: Percona Live Europe? 18:12 < jaelae> they do not have it in one place in vegas its in a plethora of hotels 18:12 < onenerdyguy> JFDkthx, or you got some GPo for it too 18:12 < jaelae> AnimalFarmPig: not sure what that is but i would love europe if that was possible (which it isnt) :) 18:13 < jaelae> purestorage event end of this month but i cannot make it to that too 18:13 < jaelae> thats a nice one though in san francisco 18:13 < AnimalFarmPig> jaelae: Percona Live is a database conference. They do one in California in the spring every year and one in Europe in the autumn. This year it's in lovely... errr..... Frankfurt :/ 18:13 < JFDkthx> unfortunately i only get to experience it from the user side. i'm not sure how they have it set up. 18:13 < jaelae> ah that sounds interesting 18:14 < jaelae> covers many different DBs? 18:14 < AnimalFarmPig> https://www.percona.com/blog/2018/04/05/percona-live-europe-2018-save-the-date/ 18:14 < jaelae> we are a mix of Mongo and SQL here 18:14 < JFDkthx> im primarily a nix admin and we're silod away from the corp. 18:14 < AnimalFarmPig> mostly around MySQL and Mongo 18:14 < AnimalFarmPig> but I think they also talk about Postgres and others. I've been wanting to go for a few years and it never works out 18:18 < ebol4> too many nerds in one room 18:18 < GreyKite> ebol4: at least these are nerds with jobs so the smell isn't AS bad 18:18 < scwizard> need to get a haircut today 18:19 < scwizard> also tbh i choose to wear deodorant or not based on the event 18:19 < ravioli> why not always wear it 18:19 < scwizard> so i would wear it to like a database conference, but not to the anime convention or whatever lol 18:20 < scwizard> ravioli: because it's uncomfortable, although recently i did find a better kind that's not so bad 18:20 < AnimalFarmPig> scwizard: I wonder which conference you have a better chance of getting laid at? anime vs database? 18:20 < GreyKite> scwizard: if you find deoderant uncomfortable, try Tom's 18:20 < scwizard> been using this: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/813j-mlfz4L._SY550_.jpg 18:20 < hxcsp> whats uncomfortable about deoderant 18:20 < GreyKite> AnimalFarmPig: depends on if you set standards or not 18:21 < scwizard> AnimalFarmPig: need to protect my virginity lel 18:21 < AnimalFarmPig> Tom's has propylene glycol in it. Some people (me) are allergic to it. I use a brand called Jason. 18:21 < gavit> why does it seem like all backup tools only support vmware and hyperv :( 18:21 < GreyKite> AnimalFarmPig: fair enough 18:21 < scwizard> gavit: as opposed to? 18:21 < scwizard> gavit: what other virt software are you using in prod? 18:21 < giant_it_burrit> gavit: what you looking for? 18:21 < GreyKite> scwizard: kvm, xen 18:21 < hxcsp> because if you arent using vmware or hyperv you are probably doing it wrong gavit. and if you are using KVM then you are smart enough to make your own backup solution 18:21 < scwizard> GreyKite: you wouldn't use a gui backup tool for kvm or xen 18:21 < giant_it_burrit> you wouldnt download a car 18:22 < GreyKite> scwizard: no, no I wouldn't 18:22 < GreyKite> scwizard: just answering the question 18:22 < AnimalFarmPig> GreyKite: this is the good stuff, imo-- https://www.amazon.com/Jason-Fragrance-Free-Deodorant-Stick/dp/B000OQG0EK/ 18:22 < scwizard> gavit: don't tell me you're using virtualbox or something silly 18:23 < GreyKite> AnimalFarmPig: ah, I've seen that brand, I'll give it a try 18:23 < ebol4> why all these deodorants have first names 18:23 < GreyKite> well, tom's makes more than deoderant 18:23 < AnimalFarmPig> ^ 18:23 < AnimalFarmPig> I like their fennel flavored toothpaste 18:23 < scwizard> need to work 18:23 < gnupluslinux> i've been reading your name wrong this entire time, kept reading it as AnimalPigFarm 18:25 < AnimalFarmPig> some people prefer natural/organic personal hygiene products either for allergy/sensitivity reasons or because they're hippies. Tom's of Maine is probably the biggest name in that market. 18:25 < JFDkthx> hes the pig from animal farm gnupluslinux 18:25 < gnupluslinux> clearly the most equalest of all animals 18:25 < AnimalFarmPig> ^ I really need to re-watch that cartoon 18:26 < Anaphylaxis> AnalPigFarm 18:29 < gavit> giant_it_burrit: I'm looking for incremental backup for a hypervisor like proxmox, solusvm etc. all of them do full backups 18:30 < gavit> hxcsp: currently am thinking of using zfs and making snapshots and sync those to use as a backup 18:30 < gnupluslinux> could probably homebrew it with zfs 18:30 < gnupluslinux> can do a zfs send --diff or whatever the command is 18:30 < gavit> gnupluslinux: that's what I was thinking of 18:31 < Heresiarch> don't need zfs for that. In theory, kvm can snapshot VMs regardless of the fs (and you really wouldn't want the fs to be the snapshot point anyway). 18:31 < giant_it_burrit> ^ 18:31 < gnupluslinux> true, way it was worded though i thought he wanted to snapshot the entire hypervisor 18:31 < gavit> giant_it_burrit: Heresiarch can you elaborate? 18:32 < gavit> gnupluslinux: nah. just the vms. but zfs with zfs send of the incremental snapshot seemed like a crash consistent backup 18:32 < Heresiarch> gavit: no matter how intelligent a filesystem is, it doesn't have any awareness of the state of a VM. The hypervisor will, and can generate snapshots that are consistent relative to the VM. 18:33 < gnupluslinux> ^^ 18:33 < gnupluslinux> if its just vms, check out kvm snapshots. you can copy the fs all you want but if the "hardware" changes, you can still get fuck ups 18:34 < Heresiarch> gavit: a ZFS snapshot will be consistent for the *filesystem*, but it's anyone's guess whether the VMs themselves will be in consistent state at time of filesystem snap. 18:35 < insecurity> hey 18:35 < gavit> Heresiarch: so how would you back it up? I was guessing of doing stuff like let the mysql servers do a daily db dump to disk so I could always recover from that, but that requires me to know what is running on the vm 18:36 < Heresiarch> gavit: database backups are a whole different animal, even in a virtualized environment. The easiest way for mysql is to script an automated dump (or use something like percona xtrabackup). 18:37 < gavit> gnupluslinux: I see some commands about virsh to make the snapshot. let's say I read through it and made the snapshot. How do I go about making an incremental backup out of that? I keep the last snapshot on the host and do a diff oldsnapshot newsnapshot > tar zcvf of some kind? 18:37 < Heresiarch> gavit: VM snapshots on a database instance have the same problem as a zfs snap on normal instances. The VM/instance OS doesn't have any concept of when the database is in consistent state or not. 18:38 < gavit> Heresiarch: I agree, that's why I would make daily dumps on disk (the dump should be consistent), and if daily is not sufficient, do half daily dumps or something 18:39 < ebol4> gavit: are you using LVM? 18:40 < gavit> ebol4: I haven't even decided which hypervisor to use yet. I was thinking of proxmox, solusvm etc, but as I said, all the backups seem to be full backups 18:40 < gavit> ebol4: I'm guessing the LVM question would lead to a solution similar to the zfs send 18:40 < ebol4> ah okay. I used to use Xen and libvirt/kvm, and i had set up a combination of ansible and BackupPC 18:41 < ebol4> ansible to run the mysqldump command, and then backuppc to backup the sql dump and various other files, like /etc 18:41 < ebol4> although i think you can have backuppc run the mysqldump command before doing a backup 18:41 < ebol4> but backuppc does full and incremental backups, and you can schedule them, and configure how many backups it retains 18:42 < ebol4> plus it's FOSS 18:42 < Heresiarch> gavit: it would. Part of the problem here is terminology - in a snapshot-based backup system, there is no full/incremental. Even veeam basically snaps VMWare instances - it doesn't snap deltas from the last "full". 18:42 < ebol4> yeah, i wouldn't snapshot database vm's 18:43 < ebol4> unless the snapshot also snapshots RAM 18:43 < gavit> ebol4: a restore would thus require a VM to be build with the same packages etc? 18:44 < insecurity> Привет 18:45 < ebol4> gavit: you could have it backup EVERYTHING if you have the space for it, but just keep in mind that that generally is not the way you're supposed to backup databases 18:45 < gavit> Heresiarch: the zfs send, sends a copy of the snapshot to another location. as far as I know a normal snapshot is still dependant on the live data. so if the zfs raid failed for some reason and you did not copy the snapshots and increments to somewhere else, you lose the data 18:46 < MadCamel> can also just put the databases in a consistent state before snapshotting. ex: "flush tables with read lock;" then hold onto the lock until the snapshot's complete. If snapshots are fast even a heavily loaded db won't really notice the blip. 18:46 < ebol4> yeah, doing a read lock would also solve that, if that's an option for you 18:46 < gavit> ebol4: I want a full backup of the vm, and incrementals during a week or something. the database dump can be done in addition to ensure that I have a consistent database when restoring 18:47 < Heresiarch> gavit: true. The other alternatives are to either fully document these systems in config mgmt (excepting databases), and/or to use a more traditional backup/restore program which does allow for fulls/incrementals. 18:47 < ebol4> i'd probably just use lvm or zfs snapshots in addition to rsync'ing a database dump 18:47 < corn266> Has anyone heard of ubuntu not reaching grub-loader because 2 gfx cards (1070Ti and Quadro) and CUDA drivers are installed? 18:47 < gavit> Heresiarch: is there a 'traditional backup/restore program which allows for fulls/incremenatls' for kvm vms? 18:47 < ebol4> gavit: backuppc 18:48 < gavit> ebol4: let me read up on backuppc. 18:48 < ebol4> connects over rsync/ssh and backs up/restores files that way 18:48 < ebol4> can also connect over smb 18:48 < gavit> ebol4: connects to the host or the vm? 18:48 < ebol4> the vm 18:48 < ebol4> on the host, the only option is snapshots 18:48 < jbroome> yeah i've never thought to use backuppc for backing up the image 18:49 < ebol4> unless you're going to use backuppc to copy the block device or something 18:49 < ebol4> the lvm/zfs block device 18:49 < gavit> that would mean I have to remember how much cpu, mem, disks etc I had, and how it was configured. also nic mac addresses if applicable (some licenses are annoying) 18:49 < Church-> Man this is a juicy argument I'm watching. 18:49 < Church-> Heya MadCamel 18:49 < Heresiarch> gavit: http://rohitchauhanit.blogspot.com/2015/11/kvm-snapshot-and-clone.html 18:49 < ebol4> gavit: you would back up the vm configs as well 18:49 < gnupluslinux> gavit, you'd have to do that with zfs send anyway 18:50 < gnupluslinux> zfs doesnt care what the vm is, it only cares what's in the dataset 18:50 < MadCamel> heya Church-, how goes 18:51 < Church-> MadCamel: Eh brushing up on a bunch of tech, watching an argument over on the mozilla irc server I started on crypto coins. lol 18:52 < ebol4> gavit: you pretty much just have to decide between doing filesystem level backups on the VMs, or block-device/image backups/snapshots on the host, or both 18:52 < gavit> gnupluslinux: true, but I was hoping there was a solution like veaam where it connects to the hypervisor, figures out what vms exist (its not that hard), and make backups as it does for vmware and hyperv. 18:53 < gnupluslinux> the vms exist as just a bunch of xml configs, could copy those over too 18:54 < gnupluslinux> speaking of, what do you guys use for remote automatic failover? 18:55 < MadCamel> for my kvm setup I have the backing-store setup atop a btrfs filesystem. my backup scripts just ensure every VM is in a sane state, snapshot the filesystem, and ship the snapshot offsite. I also backup the kvm host machines themselves, I just use rdiff-backup for that. 18:55 < MadCamel> snapshot the *backing-store filesystem, not the guest filesystem. 18:56 < MadCamel> there's probably better solutions but that's what works for me :) 18:57 < ebol4> gnupluslinux: for really important stuff like DNS that needs to be pretty much instant, i use keepalived to have both machines share an IP address, but HAProxy would probably work fine too 18:57 < ebol4> but then you have to have two HAproxy installs if you want to be truly HA 18:57 < ebol4> so keepalived is simpler 18:58 < onenerdyguy> anyone using RHEV? in prod? for like..actual prod and not 12 machines hosting minecraft 18:58 < ThatOneRoadie> I use RHEL in prod 18:58 < ThatOneRoadie> close enough? 18:59 < MadCamel> ucarp can sometimes be easier for that if tcp session persistence isn't an issue 18:59 < onenerdyguy> ThatOneRoadie, sadly no. we're already using RHEL, it's RHEV we're looking at now 19:00 * gavit votes for haproxy too 19:01 < Sousapro> Arch in prod 19:01 < Sousapro> I too like to live dangerously 19:04 < gnupluslinux> i'm mr t and i'm a night elf mohawk 19:05 < voidstar> templeos in prod 19:08 < ThatOneRoadie> Broke contract on the house I was buying 19:08 < ThatOneRoadie> yay broken contracts 19:08 < Sp00ky> woo 19:08 < insecurity> i'm gonna install mIRC just for the fuck of it 19:08 < Heresiarch> ThatOneRoadie: bad inspection, or just shady shit from the seller? 19:09 < asimon> Am I a bad person for using our backup service to transfer files when upgrading user workstations? 19:10 < ThatOneRoadie> Heresiarch: both 19:10 < Heresiarch> ThatOneRoadie: ug. Sucks. 19:10 < ThatOneRoadie> inspection turned up shit grading issues, an FPE distribution panel, gas leak on an old water heater, and shit drainage causing the patio slabs to lift 19:10 < gnupluslinux> ThatOneRoadie, you broke or someone else did 19:11 < gnupluslinux> oh i see 19:11 < Dish> ThatOneRoadie: I am in the process of buying a home and I'm scared of that shit happening D: 19:11 < Heresiarch> ThatOneRoadie: ...er. Yeeeah. 19:11 < ThatOneRoadie> I said: Correct the water heater and gas leak, replace the FPE Panel (because FPE had their UL listing revoked), add drainage around the property and fix the heaved slabs, and I'll disregard everything else in the inspection under $1000 19:12 < ThatOneRoadie> they said "We'll give you $1800 for the panel and that's it" 19:12 < ThatOneRoadie> "the water heater works fine it doesn't need to be fixed/replaced" 19:12 < Heresiarch> fixing the slabs and drainage would be a good 5-10k worth of work in and of itself. 19:12 * gnupluslinux has yet to buy a house 19:12 < gnupluslinux> how do you find a good inspector and can you usually trust em? 19:12 < mrghostman> why are panels so damned expensive 19:12 < ThatOneRoadie> so I said "Give me the $1800 for the panel (It's a $3000 replacement) and $2000 for the drainage and I'll correct the grading myself" 19:12 < voidstar> panels arent, electricians are mrghostman 19:13 < mrghostman> actually panels ARE 19:13 < abakedapplepie> who wants to see some carnage 19:13 < ThatOneRoadie> they said "we'll give you $1800 and nothing else" 19:13 < ThatOneRoadie> so I said "fuck right off" 19:13 < ThatOneRoadie> they obviously hadn't done any maintenance since they moved in 8 years ago 19:13 < ThatOneRoadie> like at all 19:14 < ThatOneRoadie> sewer had never been cleaned out in the 8 years they lived there 19:14 < ThatOneRoadie> radon galore in the place 19:14 < ThatOneRoadie> like 14 pCi/L 19:14 < mrghostman> err maybe not 19:14 < mrghostman> ;p; 19:14 < mrghostman> lol 19:14 < abakedapplepie> https://i.imgur.com/Fgh5MmF.jpg 19:14 < ThatOneRoadie> Panels are relatively cheap 19:14 < abakedapplepie> Apparently oil and POE don't mix 19:14 < ThatOneRoadie> breakers are expensive 19:14 < ThatOneRoadie> and so are the electrician 19:14 < ThatOneRoadie> s 19:14 < abakedapplepie> Whod'a think it 19:15 < abakedapplepie> wow that looks way more tame with the flash on 19:15 < abakedapplepie> the middle pins are completely gone on the POE port 19:15 < mrghostman> how much of a pita would it be to replace a 30 space 200 amp panel with a 40 space? 19:15 < ThatOneRoadie> the AFCI circuit breakers code requires now are like $50 each 19:15 < mrghostman> or am i better off just doing a sub panel? 19:15 < ThatOneRoadie> it adds up fast 19:15 < ThatOneRoadie> Sub panel it 19:15 < abakedapplepie> mrghostman do a sub panel 19:15 < abakedapplepie> not worth the effort 19:15 < abakedapplepie> unless you want to make it look really nice 19:16 < mrghostman> how many spaces do i need to use up on the existing to pull a sub? 19:16 < ThatOneRoadie> 2 19:16 < mrghostman> what size breaker? 19:16 < ThatOneRoadie> whatever your sub panel is + 20% 19:16 < abakedapplepie> depends 19:16 < mrghostman> cool 19:16 < mrghostman> fucking cheap electricians went with a 30 space instead of a 40 19:16 < abakedapplepie> use proper gauge wire for your amperage too 19:16 < TuxedoJack> Anyone know if there's a way to exempt a single user from quarantine for O365 mail? 19:17 < TuxedoJack> Just ONE user, not the whole organization 19:17 < TuxedoJack> Accountants who deal with time-sensitive shit and don't want to log into the fucking spam panel 19:17 < abakedapplepie> accountants are the worst 19:17 < abakedapplepie> second only to sales 19:17 < gnupluslinux> TuxedoJack, probably a rule you can set 19:17 < abakedapplepie> one of my clients got scammed for 50k 19:17 < gnupluslinux> do not quarantine or something 19:18 < abakedapplepie> she doesnt complain about the quarantine anymore 19:18 < gnupluslinux> heh 19:18 < abakedapplepie> scammer had a perfect storm of luck and timing to score that win 19:18 < abakedapplepie> they were in the middle of a lot of large purchases and a 50k wire transsfer was not out of the norm 19:20 < TuxedoJack> AntispamBypassEnabled should work - and it works on on-prem - but fuck O365 users right? 19:24 < Dish> Similar thing happened to one of our accountants for 20k. It was the nudge they needed to approve some budgets for a phishing campaign haha 19:25 < ravioli> ugh today is dragging 19:26 < mrghostman> ^ 19:28 < Sousapro> I'm just glad I revived the production domain 19:29 < Sousapro> deleting the sysvol staging areas folder was sneaky lol 19:29 < giant_it_burrit> ? 19:30 < Sousapro> oh, devops came to me that weirdness was going on with the prod domain 19:31 < JFDkthx> abakedapplepie: what do you do in that situation 19:31 < JFDkthx> turn it over to the feds 19:31 < Sousapro> connected to the domain controller and DFS replication had been stopped for over a year, group policies were trashed (2 had folders deleted, default domain and default domain controller policies had all settings deleted) and they couldn't get the new WSUS GPO to load because of errors (hmm, wonder why? lol) 19:31 < JFDkthx> ? 19:32 < Sousapro> giant_it_burrit: it was literally sabotaged 19:32 < Sousapro> maybe not with a wooden shoe but intentionally damaged 19:32 < Sousapro> happened long before I got here 19:32 < giant_it_burrit> who did it 19:32 <@Code_Man65> How in the nine hells did they not get an alert in a fucking year about replication issues? 19:32 < giant_it_burrit> o 19:32 < Sousapro> Code_Man65: idiots set it up 19:32 < Sousapro> Code_Man65: I'm working on ELK or Splunk as soon as I finish up with this 19:33 < JFDkthx> mmm we're buying splunk 19:33 < JFDkthx> i cant wait 19:33 < giant_it_burrit> its nice 19:33 <@Code_Man65> Ask cryptic1 about splunk, he's a dashboard expert after his training :D 19:33 < Sousapro> I'm pretty sure felda has some splunk for you 19:33 < giant_it_burrit> he got training? 19:33 < Sousapro> might take him 15 minutes to spin up the instance though 19:33 < felda> / ! \ New Bulletin: JFDkthx (AKA gayFDkthx) has once again kidnapped little Indonesian children to try and build his new world Dystopia based on chicken tendies 19:33 < giant_it_burrit> Code_Man65: have him make you one for felda and pfsense] 19:34 < JFDkthx> Sousapro: where were you when felda was kill 19:34 < Sousapro> working on a destroyed domain 19:34 < Sousapro> lol 19:34 < JFDkthx> felda: first off, it's not kidnapping if i got them when they werent sleeping. second, who can fault me if i try. 19:34 < DomLS3> pfsense 19:35 < Sousapro> what did you do, felda? start trying to convince everyone Meraki > PFSense 19:35 < JFDkthx> esnesfp 19:35 < DomLS3> SonicWall > pfsense 19:35 < Sousapro> I would have handed out a temp ban for for suggesting meraki 19:35 < asimon> Sousapro: Why is that? 19:35 < DomLS3> pee-ef-cents 19:35 < Sp00ky> Sousapro, our entire network is Meraki. Lol. 19:35 < DomLS3> that shoud get JFDKthx kicked ^ 19:36 < Sousapro> asimon: pfsense > meraki 19:36 < DomLS3> Code_Man65 19:36 < asimon> We just switched to meraki so I'm curious if there are issues I should expect 19:36 < JFDkthx> DomLS3: currently the only thing that gets me kicked is hatter 19:36 < JFDkthx> by cryptic1 19:36 < DomLS3> hatter is such a tool shed 19:36 < Sp00ky> asimon, Shit support honestly. 19:36 < asimon> Gotcha 19:36 < Sp00ky> asimon, But it's pretty easy to manage the hardware. 19:36 < JFDkthx> DomLS3: i bet he likes fish sticks 19:36 < DomLS3> JFDkthx: Oh I bet he LOVES fish sticks 19:37 < DomLS3> big fat fish sticks 19:37 < Sp00ky> asimon, MEraki support will tell you to use unstable beta firmware to fix problems. 19:37 < DomLS3> maybe even some darker fish sticks for the added flabor 19:37 < DomLS3> flavor 19:37 < asimon> yikes 19:37 < Sp00ky> asimon, The hardware is good though, we like it. 19:38 < DomLS3> funniest video I've seen in awhile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enOHraf3LEk 19:39 < giant_it_burrit> this is olddddddddddddddd 19:39 < giant_it_burrit> come on pops 19:39 < DomLS3> idgaf 19:39 < DomLS3> it's worth a repost 19:39 < Sousapro> asimon: there isn't any major issues with it 19:39 < Hatter> DomLS3: I thought you perhaps learned not to antagonize me! 19:39 < gnupluslinux> i was expecting web dude vs sales guy 19:39 < Sousapro> asimon: It just needs to keep getting TLC from Cisco to get polished 19:39 < Hatter> there's no hope for JFDkthx 19:39 < Hatter> but you might learn from his mistakes 19:39 < DomLS3> gnupluslinux: the website is down! 19:40 < JFDkthx> Hatter: chew on aluminum foil 19:40 < Sousapro> DomLS3: lmao 19:40 < Sousapro> DomLS3: the wallpaper 19:40 < Heresiarch> Hatter: ...how can we not antagonize you, when you make it so fun (and easy!) 19:40 < gnupluslinux> Hatter, u r tha sux0rz 19:40 < Hatter> well I get a bit carried away sometimes 19:40 < Hatter> I can't help myself 19:40 < Hatter> gnupluslinux: that is IT 19:40 < giant_it_burrit> you could if you used tcl 19:40 < giant_it_burrit> rkeene 19:41 < giant_it_burrit> where art thou 19:50 < dragonfleas> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGHDM9TFh4E 19:54 < Church-> giant_it_burrit: In vegas and getting ready for a conference in NYC. 19:54 < giant_it_burrit> rkeene is? 19:54 < Church-> Yep 19:54 < giant_it_burrit> i hope he comes to visit 19:55 < Church-> giant_it_burrit: Heh come to the Hilton I wanna say on fri then. 19:55 < giant_it_burrit> which one 19:55 < Church-> Sec let me find the con location. 19:55 < giant_it_burrit> ill surprise him 19:56 < _Straffer> What do you guys think about Comodo One? 19:56 < _Straffer> within the last year 19:56 < dragonfleas> waited for 2 hours for the secret server install to finish 19:57 < dragonfleas> installer crashes 19:57 < dragonfleas> -____- 19:57 < dragonfleas> probably because I only have 1 gig of ram on this server 19:57 < Church-> giant_it_burrit: Supposed to be the Hilton midtown I believe 19:57 < JollyRgrs> what is comodo one, _Straffer? you talkin about the AV program? 19:57 < dragonfleas> maybe i should assign it 4 19:57 < ekaj> 1 giggity 19:57 < Church-> I'll be there too. 19:57 < dragonfleas> is 1 gig enough for secret server 19:57 < JFDkthx> felda: i just emailed abuse@namecheap.com 19:57 < _Straffer> JollyRgrs: sorry, their RMM tool similar to Labtech/Kaseya/Nable 19:57 < JFDkthx> saying that you're abusing felda.io 19:57 < felda> haha they just terminated my web hosting 19:57 < JFDkthx> by not having a webserver up 19:57 < _Straffer> freemium 19:57 < JollyRgrs> _Straffer: oh, no clue 19:58 < JFDkthx> felda: i check it every day, it's how i get my news 19:58 < JFDkthx> pls2dtn and rehost. 19:58 < JFDkthx> tia 19:58 < _Straffer> I'm using it for my familia... and so far... what the shit. It's good. Deployed free comodo AV, web filtering, patch management. 19:58 < mrghostman> RIP in peace felda.io 19:58 < _Straffer> for a free product 19:59 < JollyRgrs> _Straffer: why not just use built-in defender? 19:59 < JollyRgrs> i mean, win10 even does patch mgmt 19:59 < JollyRgrs> why would you try to make more work for yourself at home? 19:59 < _Straffer> I initially installed it for remote support 19:59 < JFDkthx> felda: !remindme 20190125 felda.io expires 19:59 < _Straffer> and just switched those on 19:59 < JollyRgrs> that's what teamviewer (free for home use) is for 19:59 < _Straffer> just to see what it was like. Didn't care about htem 19:59 < _Straffer> Sure, but I wanted to try something different. 20:00 < _Straffer> It hasn't been any work. I also use it for work on the side now. 20:01 < giant_it_burrit> _Straffer: what has been? 20:02 < _Straffer> ComodoOne RMM 20:02 < giant_it_burrit> why is it free 20:02 < Hatter> didn't someone recently recommend some good environment sensors in here or on reddit? 20:02 < _Straffer> Freemium I suppose. Once you hit a certain point if you're a company you'll need more advanced support 20:03 < _Straffer> I've thrown all my side-work customers and family computers in there with their consent and its nice. 20:05 < alazare619> _Straffer: wait your saying that comodo has a remote management tool 20:06 < _Straffer> yes, sorry 20:06 < SpeakerToMeat> You guys have any oss web based logbook/journal you use/like? 20:06 < giant_it_burrit> onenote 20:06 < SpeakerToMeat> I was gonna say funny, but... 20:07 < giant_it_burrit> you asked what i like 20:07 < JRWR> so ICANN is going to shutdown WHOIS for everything due to GPDR 20:08 < alazare619> i use standard notes 20:08 < scwizard> echo "value" | openssl dgst -sha256 -hmac "key" 20:08 < alazare619> paid for their extended because i love its code ide and other features of it 20:08 < alazare619> plus its stupidly lightweight and allows backup to gdrive and dropbox and others 20:08 < scwizard> is there anyway to specifiy the value as an argument rather than than as standard input? 20:08 < SpeakerToMeat> it might work 20:08 < SpeakerToMeat> giant_it_burrit: I also said oss but... 20:08 < alazare619> standard notes is opensource 20:10 < SpeakerToMeat> alazare619: The trouble is I want some stuff that I won't get for free 20:10 < SpeakerToMeat> alazare619: altough, standard notes seems to have part of it! 20:10 < giant_it_burrit> such as 20:10 < scwizard> eh whatever it doesn't matter 20:10 < alazare619> SpeakerToMeat: all i'm going to say is the standard notes "serial" for extended i.e. the code ide and picture support is just a base64 encoded json string 20:11 < alazare619> if you want more pm me 20:11 < SpeakerToMeat> alazare619: Only one quick question that's quicker to ask than to search.. does it offer offline for the android client? 20:11 < alazare619> yes 20:12 < kondor6c> yeah it looks that way, I think you can almost see a remainder of them but I can't tell if that is an artifact of the photo 20:12 < SpeakerToMeat> that's it 20:12 < alazare619> its backend uses git for revision control 20:12 < SpeakerToMeat> alazare619: Standard it is.... unless... 20:12 < alazare619> so it has a local git like repo as well 20:12 < alazare619> then when its online it will sync back 20:12 < TuxedoJack> "Woah, calm down there Satan, we just want to give them a little mild beating, not ruin their life. Edit: lol, didn't even notice this was actually u/tuxedo_jack I was replying to until after I posted this." 20:12 < TuxedoJack> fukken lol'd 20:13 < TuxedoJack> https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/8jin3k/if_my_grades_are_affected_by_this_i_will_be/dz0x7af/ 20:13 < SpeakerToMeat> alazare619: This is sweet nectar 20:13 < alazare619> i paid for hte premium just because i wanted to see how the premium activated to reverse engineer it lol 20:14 < alazare619> i had a feeling i knew how but needed proof 20:14 < Heresiarch> TuxedoJack: ...damn. That's a little much, even for going full-BOFH. 20:14 < alazare619> and its worth it i find myself using it alot...and i like the android client its quick unlike onenote 20:14 < TuxedoJack> Heresiarch: oh, but don't tell me you wouldn't 20:15 < Heresiarch> TuxedoJack: too much work as a response, unless you're going for political vengeance. 20:15 < TuxedoJack> Nah, just schadenfreude 20:15 < Heresiarch> Also, reddit needs to ease up on this redesign crap. 20:16 < kondor6c> there is also leanote, I have used it, only real issue I have is that much of the documentation is not in english (which is my native language). I would have liked if they used postgres as their backend instead of mongo 20:18 < GreyKite> TuxedoJack: you always are willing to go the extra mile to bofh someone 20:19 < giant_it_burrit> never changed 20:19 < corn266> JRWR you got a link for that? 20:19 < SpeakerToMeat> alazare619: dude.. yes. 20:20 < scwizard> https://pastebin.com/raw/betzeT57 20:20 < scwizard> why does hmac via python and hmac via bash give me different results? 20:21 < pcspkr> because you're doing it wrong 20:21 < pcspkr> same algorithm and same input = same output 20:22 < scwizard> pcspkr: yeah and the algorithm is the same and the input is the same 20:22 < scwizard> so why is the output different 20:22 < GreyKite> pcspkr: only if the implementations are done correctly 20:22 < Heresiarch> scwizard: looks like you're hashing both key and value in the python script, but only one of each in bash. 20:22 < gnupluslinux> fucking certs 20:22 < gnupluslinux> y u no werk 20:22 < scwizard> Heresiarch: what do you mean??? 20:22 < SpeakerToMeat> alazare619: can I share? 20:22 < scwizard> "only one of each" 20:22 < scwizard> you can't do an hmac with just one thingy 20:23 < scwizard> it's getting the value via stdin and the key via a cli argument for openssl 20:23 < scwizard> wait 20:23 < scwizard> i got it 20:23 < GreyKite> boop 20:23 < scwizard> echo is doing a fucking \n 20:23 < scwizard> i bet 20:23 < GreyKite> probably 20:23 < ebol4> echo -n baby 20:23 < alazare619> SpeakerToMeat: what do you mean share 20:23 < SpeakerToMeat> seems not 20:24 < alazare619> oh like a link from inside to outside you can and you can not 20:24 < alazare619> it allows full backup to dropbox 20:24 < alazare619> so in a round about way you can share from dropbox 20:24 < JRWR> corn266: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17075514 20:24 < scwizard> yup that was it 20:24 < scwizard> fucking newlines 20:24 < Heresiarch> scwizard: ah, looked like it was different b/c of the split command-lines. 20:24 < SpeakerToMeat> alazare619: No, I mean have two users... well I can make everybody use the same user... 20:25 < alazare619> yes thtas one way 20:25 < scwizard> see working now 20:25 < scwizard> https://pastebin.com/raw/fhbAUH2c 20:25 < alazare619> and its under extremely fast development 20:25 < alazare619> so its possible that there will be a time where you can add multiple users 20:25 < alazare619> but as a single point of data entry i've choosen this over one note 20:25 < alazare619> for teams onenote might be better for solo...i prefer this over one note 20:26 < GreyKite> onenote can fuck right off 20:26 < scwizard> Heresiarch: what the fuck is "split command lines" don't you know what a pipe is lel 20:28 < Heresiarch> scwizard: pipes? You mean you don't just redirect everywhere and use tmp files? *ducks* 20:28 * scwizard rings a bell 20:28 < scwizard> shame shame shame shame shame 20:28 < Heresiarch> rofl 20:29 < Heresiarch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy4CN9DVPII 20:29 < SpeakerToMeat> alazare619: Have you tested it with two machiens open at the same time or more? does it fare? 20:29 < alazare619> yep 20:29 < alazare619> live updates on the other if its online 20:29 < SpeakerToMeat> There's one or two things missing, I might start with this and as things become needed I might set up my own server and tweak the code 20:29 < alazare619> i go to meetings nad use my phone for meeting notes 20:29 < alazare619> get back to my desktop pc to see all the notes etc 20:31 < JollyRgrs> OMG, in a meeting... i have no biz. being here 20:31 < SpeakerToMeat> Yeah 20:31 < JollyRgrs> waste of my time 20:31 < giant_it_burrit> isnt that most 20:31 < SpeakerToMeat> so far there's only two things missing, one is paid (I can't pay right now) but I can emulate it. The other I'll need to modify the code but it's not necessary rightnow 20:31 < JollyRgrs> i thought it was going to be 3 ppl working on a specific thing... nope... like 10 ppl and on a diff thing 20:31 < JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: the organizer came to me asking who all needed to be in the meeting for issue x 20:31 <@killdash9> JollyRgrs: you described most meetings 20:32 < JollyRgrs> killdash9: here, i actually belong in most meetings... 20:32 < JollyRgrs> even if i don't want to be there 20:32 < SpeakerToMeat> JollyRgrs: Poor sod 20:33 < giant_it_burrit> leave 20:33 < giant_it_burrit> tell them you have to poop 20:35 < JFDkthx> speaking of poops. i just destroyed our public lobby restroom 20:35 < JFDkthx> dont even feel bad 20:39 < Hatter> ewww 21:02 < Jacob843> Hey. Figured I'd post in here first. Does anyone have a go-to 3CX vendor that doesn't mark prices up 300%? I need an annual 4-sim call pro license for a side project and literally every vendor I have called is quoting me at least $500 USD on a $200 USD license. 21:03 < JollyRgrs> our meeting rooms are so stuffy :( 21:04 < JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: some of us care about our image at work and like getting promotions from time to time :P 21:05 < abakedapplepie> Jacob843 iirc there are some outfits that resell used licenses 21:05 < abakedapplepie> maybe look for that? 21:05 < abakedapplepie> not too familiar with 3CX 21:05 < abakedapplepie> but i used a lot of used licenses when i ad a 3com pbx 21:05 < Jacob843> Hmm I will look into it. Not sure if the license gets stuck on the fqdn or not 21:07 < giant_it_burrit> I get to wear a t-shirt and jeans JollyRgrs. I'm also as loud as you hear in the office 21:10 < hexmonkey> OMG what did I come back to 21:11 < hexmonkey> wait no nevermind 21:11 < JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: i can wear that, too... but i wear jeans and an untucked polo M-Th 21:11 < JollyRgrs> i would be wearin flops, but my wife told me she wouldn't let me 21:12 < JollyRgrs> i like sex... so i wear sneakers 21:12 < giant_it_burrit> But your married 21:12 < hexmonkey> JollyRgrs: something something sandals are lame 21:12 < giant_it_burrit> Are you wearing your new balances dad 21:12 < giant_it_burrit> ? 21:12 < JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: all the more to be careful about not cutting off my supply chain 21:12 < JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: sketchers 21:13 < giant_it_burrit> Its the s 21:13 < JollyRgrs> hexmonkey: not sandals 21:13 < JollyRgrs> sandals ARE lame 21:13 < JollyRgrs> i'm talkin about flip flops 21:13 < JollyRgrs> totes diff 21:13 < hexmonkey> JollyRgrs: same thing 21:13 < JollyRgrs> nope 21:13 < hexmonkey> put some shoes on ya hippy 21:13 < JollyRgrs> techincally, flops are a type of sandal, but most ppl think of back-strap when talking about sandals... like birkenstocks or something 21:13 < JFDkthx> coworker is talking about how we need an ethnic cleansing 21:13 < JFDkthx> to fix over population 21:13 < JollyRgrs> those are hippy shoes (sandals)... flops are easy going shoes 21:14 * JFDkthx scoots away slowly. 21:14 < JollyRgrs> JFDkthx: starting with his first? 21:14 < JollyRgrs> wait... he's not white, is he? 21:14 < hexmonkey> JFDkthx: don't give him the infinity gauntlet 21:14 < giant_it_burrit> Are you a shoebie? 21:14 < JFDkthx> i dont feel so good mr hexmonkey 21:14 < JFDkthx> also long time no smell hexmonkey 21:14 < JFDkthx> JollyRgrs: super white 21:14 < hexmonkey> JFDkthx: aww so nice you noticed 21:14 < hexmonkey> JFDkthx: i was doing this thing I do once in awhile: work 21:15 < JFDkthx> yeah no one here knows about that 21:15 < JFDkthx> except for rkeene and cryptic1 21:15 < JFDkthx> JollyRgrs: hes a nuclear family type 21:15 < JFDkthx> fucking security guy too 21:15 < JFDkthx> i'll chalk it up to him being in security. 21:15 < JollyRgrs> JFDkthx: oh, i'm not super white, i got a bit of injun in me... like 1/16th or something 21:15 < JFDkthx> hehehe 21:16 < JollyRgrs> other than that, i'm irish and welsh/english i think 21:16 < JFDkthx> JollyRgrs: im 1/2 mexican. but the irish in me counters all of the mexican. so now im just white. 21:16 < JollyRgrs> so yeah... uh... pretty white 21:16 < hexmonkey> JollyRgrs: according to the DNA test I gave to Ancestry and the NSA, i'm 1% Native american 21:16 < JollyRgrs> when i was playing t-ball, i was super tan 21:16 < JFDkthx> 60 years ago? 21:16 < JollyRgrs> and brown hair... but then when i switched to basketball 21:17 < hexmonkey> JollyRgrs: there are probably better things to be Super at 21:17 < JollyRgrs> i couldn't tan anymore and my hair started getting lighter brown and when i got old enough for facial hair... it is red 21:17 < ravioli> you guys want some italian in u 21:17 < JFDkthx> JollyRgrs: same same, i've got dark brown almost black eyes. almost black hair, and red/blonde facial hair. 21:17 < ravioli> put me in your mouth 21:17 < JollyRgrs> hexmonkey: i wasn't like bronze... just a nice healthy tan... but compared to my now white as #000000 ass... i was super tan 21:18 < JollyRgrs> ravioli: did that line work with JFDkthx's mom? 21:18 < Hatter> ravioli: are you sicilian? I heard an interesting story about sicilians 21:18 < JFDkthx> Hatter: no he's pasta 21:18 < JFDkthx> u tool 21:18 < hexmonkey> JollyRgrs: I thought #000000 was black 21:18 < JollyRgrs> wait 21:18 < JFDkthx> FFFFFFF 21:18 < JollyRgrs> you are right 21:18 < JollyRgrs> #FFFFFF 21:18 < Hatter> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcZCGMCDzbU 21:18 < hexmonkey> heh 21:18 < JollyRgrs> brain alraedy melted, not even done with tuesday (i keep thinking it is wednesday) 21:19 < ravioli> it helps if you pretend it's monday 21:19 < ravioli> and then eventually realize that it's actually tuesday. 21:19 < hexmonkey> yay fedex said my 31" monitor just got delivered 21:20 < hexmonkey> at my garage where the sun is probably baking the living bejeezus out of it 21:20 < hexmonkey> 88F today 21:20 < JFDkthx> where is it 21:20 < JFDkthx> i'll go grab it for you 21:20 < JollyRgrs> hexmonkey: we've already been hitting mid 90s... easily :( 21:20 < hexmonkey> JFDkthx: my address is 127.0.0.1 21:20 < JFDkthx> JollyRgrs: its 50 today :) 21:20 < JollyRgrs> must be nice 21:20 < JFDkthx> it isnt 21:21 < JFDkthx> it's fucking raining 21:21 < JollyRgrs> same here! 21:21 < JollyRgrs> which is nice, b/c it only gets up to like 70s or 80s 21:21 < JollyRgrs> but when it stops raining and sun comes back out... 21:21 < JollyRgrs> it's even worse b/c road is just steam 21:21 < JFDkthx> hexmonkey: weird way to say ::1 21:21 < asimon> God today is moving slowly 21:21 < asimon> Maybe because I haven't done shit all day 21:21 < hexmonkey> JollyRgrs: are you in Florida? 21:22 < ravioli> p r e a c h 21:22 < JFDkthx> asimon: do what i do when its a slow day. read a book 21:22 < JollyRgrs> hexmonkey: i am in the continental 48 21:22 < asimon> JFDkthx: Any recommendations? 21:22 < ravioli> you've read the hitchhikers guide series right asimon 21:22 < asimon> Getting close to done with my latest star wars audiobook 21:22 < asimon> yeah 21:22 < Hatter> douglas adams stole 42 from lewis carroll 21:22 < JFDkthx> asimon: this is literally what im reading right now https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html-single/selinux_users_and_administrators_guide/index 21:22 < Hatter> prove me wrong 21:23 < hexmonkey> JollyRgrs: well played. you described perfectly my experience last time i was in disney world in august 21:23 < hexmonkey> JollyRgrs: rain then steam 21:23 < JollyRgrs> haha 21:23 < JollyRgrs> hexmonkey: yeah, you just see it rising from the concrete 21:23 < JollyRgrs> and it is muggy as hell 21:23 < JFDkthx> feels like you're walking around in the devils tain 21:23 < hexmonkey> soaking wet outside, up to my ankles in water, then it's a meat locker inside 21:23 < asimon> Lol that looks like it would kill me 21:23 < JFDkthx> t 21:24 < asimon> Has anyone rolled out bitlocker for their enterprise yet? 21:24 < JollyRgrs> asimon: yes 21:24 < JollyRgrs> a lot of ppl ahve 21:24 < asimon> (I guess its been out for a few years now) 21:24 < JollyRgrs> like... A LOT 21:24 < JollyRgrs> a few years? it has been around since win7 enterprise, dude 21:24 < asimon> Shows my experience with it lol 21:25 < pcspkr> it's a decade old feature 21:25 < precise> https://i.imgur.com/LKkIgEa.gifv 21:25 < JollyRgrs> with that experience with it... it'll be a steep learning curve 21:25 < pcspkr> all the 3rd party disk encryption tools now use bitlocker as their backend 21:25 < ravioli> precise++ 21:25 < JollyRgrs> it isn't too troublesome... but with no background in it, might be a bit steep at first 21:25 < hexmonkey> I'm not really into cryptocurrency 21:25 < JollyRgrs> pcspkr: nowai 21:25 < precise> ravioli: My weekend plans 21:25 < asimon> I'm trying to figure out if it's worth it to figure out 21:25 < ravioli> god dammit i wish i were as cool as you 21:25 < precise> lmao 21:25 < precise> Also, hi, long time to IRC ravioli 21:26 < JollyRgrs> pcspkr: mcafee still does their own... but they do ALSO offer native encryption mgmt 21:26 < JollyRgrs> asimon: yes, yes it is 21:26 < asimon> I guess I could just enable it on one of our machine not yet deployed and play around 21:26 < asimon> We've had issues with our backup system and encrypted volumes before - does bitlocker interfere with that kind of file-level backup at all? 21:26 < JollyRgrs> i would recommend it on all machines... even desktops (they get stolen, too... esp since USFF are smaller than laptops) 21:27 < giant_it_burrit> i hated the mcacfee solution 21:27 < JollyRgrs> asimon: how did they interfere with file level backups? you're speaking of a full disk encrpytion causing issues? 21:27 < giant_it_burrit> what was their solution called 21:27 < JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: it is terrible, we're moving ppl off of it as they get win10 pro 21:27 < JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: ePo 21:27 < giant_it_burrit> that was it 21:28 < JollyRgrs> epo is trash 21:28 < JollyRgrs> so much total trash 21:28 < giant_it_burrit> native bitlocker is nice 21:28 < giant_it_burrit> with a tpm 21:28 < JollyRgrs> with MBAM if possible to manage it 21:28 < giant_it_burrit> no need to let user know encrypted 21:28 < JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: without TPM, you gotta use a usb stick.... nothx 21:28 < giant_it_burrit> back up to ad 21:28 < asimon> JollyRgrs: Not with full-disk encryption, no. We had some shit with truecrypt volumes that somehow they weren't able to be unlocked and also had to be fully backed up every time anything inside them changed 21:28 < ravioli> hi precise. 21:28 < giant_it_burrit> you dont have tpm 21:28 < giant_it_burrit> rip in pepperino 21:28 < asimon> Since our backup program couldn't see individual files within the encyrpted volume 21:29 < JollyRgrs> asimon: well, yeah, if you only encrypt certain containers... then you'd have to decrypt them before they can be backe dup 21:29 < JollyRgrs> or you'd just have to backup the blob 21:29 < gnupluslinux> blobby blob blobl 21:29 < JollyRgrs> that makes no sense to expect otherwise 21:29 < giant_it_burrit> borg? 21:29 < JollyRgrs> otherwise, i'd jsut use the backup solution to hack into your "encrypted" files 21:30 < asimon> Right, that was an inconvenient feature 21:30 < asimon> So as such we've tried to limit the usage of those encryption volumes to what actually needs it 21:31 < asimon> The full-disk encryption would gracefully handle changing files on the drive though? 21:31 < asimon> (in regards to backup that is) 21:31 < estranger> http://thetechtribune.com/10-best-tech-startups-in-santa-clara/ noice 21:31 < JFDkthx> gnupluslinux: bob loblaw law blog 21:32 < Heresiarch> huh. Didn't know malwarebytes was in SC. 21:33 < estranger> its actually right next to us 21:33 < precise> Speaking of bird law, I saw a bird jump up to the top of a dandelion and grab it with a claw, and use its weight to drag it down, and then it pecked at the seeds at the top which was then pinned to the ground. Birds are smart af. 21:33 < estranger> i didnt know malwarebytes was a startup lol 21:33 < corn266> I had a squirrel drop a nut in front of my car tire to break open when I drove over it 21:34 < precise> Niiiceee 21:34 < corn266> lazy fucker 21:34 < estranger> did you then drop a nut on the squirrel? 21:34 < precise> I had a squirell jump from within a bush in front of my car today 21:34 < corn266> is there any other choice? 21:34 < precise> Was like 5ft up when it jumped, damn near landed on my hood 21:34 < asimon> JollyRgrs: While we're talking bitlocker, what best practices for recovery key management do you recommend? Looks like you could just tie it to AD 21:35 <@Code_Man65> Either store the recovery key in AD or use MBAM (if you have MDOP) 21:35 <@Code_Man65> Or do both if you want 21:35 < hexmonkey> it's always fun to be unnecessarily CCed on an email that has the words "Contact the attorneys and get them involved immediately." 21:36 <@Code_Man65> hexmonkey: Try getting a request at 4:15 on a Friday that you have to forward on to the head lawyer for the company who is OOO on vacation. 21:37 < hexmonkey> Code_Man65: we just have a weird system where every email to anyone seems to be cc'd to a 40+ person mailing list 21:38 < gnupluslinux> 000? 21:38 < hexmonkey> we have a ticketing system but I don't know what they use it for 21:38 < admiralspark|afk> man 21:38 < admiralspark|afk> must be nice 21:38 < admiralspark|afk> we dont have a ticket system 21:38 < hexmonkey> i get thousands of emails a day for no reason whatsoever 21:39 < aName> Noisy reporters? 21:39 < gnupluslinux> i'll trade your emails for phone calls 21:39 < hexmonkey> including invites to every provisioning task and new TTU 21:39 < hexmonkey> aName: not even counting the automated emails from systems, etc. 21:39 < aName> admiralspark: It takes about ten minutes to spin up RT, yeah? 21:40 < admiralspark> aName: RT?\ 21:40 < admiralspark> Russia Today? 21:40 < ravioli> rooster teeth 21:41 < aName> Request Tracker 21:41 < aName> Takes in emails, makes ticket system 21:41 * aName shrugs 21:43 < hexmonkey> open source too, i think 21:43 < ebol4> yeeeeee it's perl 21:43 < admiralspark> oh 21:44 < admiralspark> aName: no no, you don't understand, my direct management doesn't want a tracking system 21:44 * aName blinks 21:44 < admiralspark> and the CFO above him hasn't asked for one either 21:44 < admiralspark> oh yeah buddy 21:44 < ebol4> why 21:44 < aName> ^ 21:44 < admiralspark> I am living the goddamn dream here, complete with projects getting dropped by IT. I use a kanban for my own stuff but I get plenty of facepalms due to the other guys 21:45 < precise> Is there anyway to setup Office 2016 without a MSFT account? 21:45 < ebol4> precise: you can install it without an account i think, but it will badger you to login once it's installed 21:45 < ebol4> and won't let you use it iirc 21:45 < precise> damnit 21:45 < admiralspark> technically it's not my job, unfortunately. I have been tasked with finding a nice, non-time-tracking, project management software for high level stuff 21:45 < precise> fuckin msft 21:46 < bvierra> yo anyone here a good front end dev that knows craftcms? 21:46 < Alternity> admiralspark: jira/confluence 21:48 < admiralspark> Alternity: IT, not programmers. Also, they specifically don't want something that can track technician time. You see the underlying problems here..? 21:48 < ProdigalTim> GABAMN 21:48 < admiralspark> someone, somewhere doesn't do work, and doesn't want c-levels to know 21:48 < ProdigalTim> pew pew pow 21:48 < Alternity> i work in IT, i use jira every day 21:48 < admiralspark> so I track my shit and CYA and hope for the best 21:48 < Alternity> we also dont' use the time tracking features at all 21:49 < admiralspark> Alternity: for high-level project tracking? 21:49 < hexmonkey> pretty HR girl who's sitting in the cube behind me today just said to someone on the phone "What would your ability be to work from that location" 21:49 < admiralspark> hmmm 21:49 < Alternity> admiralspark: it's kind of the defacto standard 21:49 < Alternity> admiralspark: check out teamwork.com as well 21:49 < Alternity> it's simpler, might be what you are looking for 21:49 < admiralspark> when I've worked with Jira before, it's specifically only for doing stuff like sprints and whatnot 21:49 < Alternity> maybe 15 years ago 21:50 < Alternity> now it works well as generic project management and task management 21:50 < hexmonkey> admiralspark: try Asana? 21:50 < admiralspark> this was last year, in an Atlassian shop :P 21:50 < admiralspark> hmm 21:50 < Alternity> our entire company uses JIRA 21:50 < admiralspark> cool, Alternity thanks for the Jira tip and the teamwork link 21:50 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: jira service desk. 21:50 < admiralspark> hexmonkey: havent even heard of it, will check it out too 21:50 < Alternity> if you've used it before less of a learning curve then i guess 21:50 < Alternity> good point, jira service desk will have most of ut his stuff premade 21:50 < admiralspark> Heresiarch: specifically don't want ticketing :P 21:50 < Alternity> has SLA and helpdesk workflows and such 21:50 < admiralspark> hmmmmmm 21:51 < Alternity> our marketing dept really liked teamwork.com 21:51 < hexmonkey> admiralspark: not sure if its exactly what you're looking for but worth a look if only to know what you don't want 21:51 < admiralspark> I want all of this, but I have to basically build a bullshit copout solution though 21:51 < admiralspark> thanks 21:52 < admiralspark> Alternity: I'll take a look and see, this gives me some good links to check out 21:52 < admiralspark> thanks guys 21:52 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: you're gonna have a hard row to hoe if some level of your management doesn't want ticketing. 21:54 < admiralspark> Agreed. To be honest, I think the higher levels don't know it's a possibility. Trust me, we do a lot of low/no-tech stuff 21:54 < Heresiarch> SMB? 21:55 < hexmonkey> Steve Matthews Band? 21:55 < ebol4> that's somehow even worse sounding than dave matthews 21:55 < hexmonkey> :D 21:58 < Alternity> hey i saw steve matthews live 21:58 < Alternity> when i was like, 13 21:58 < ravioli> the poor man's bela fleck? 22:00 < hexmonkey> I think bela fleck played in a few songs on the only DMB CD I owned when I was in high school 22:01 < khelpw> Bela fleck is the man. 22:01 < pcspkr> being on call... 22:02 < FenJai> Has anyone here set up pfBlockerNG ? I have my list etc set up but its not applying them. I think my clients are using my DNS (8.8.8.8) instead of the VIP 22:05 < F34RInc> FenJai, take out your 3rd party dns servers and only use the firewall for dns 22:06 < F34RInc> FenJai, then NAT all your DNS to the firewall and that will stop them from using any other DNS server 22:06 < felda> FenJai make sure DHCP isn't setting something else as your DNS 22:06 < felda> FenJai https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Redirecting_all_DNS_Requests_to_pfSense 22:07 < ebol4> unghhhh it's only 4pm 22:07 < Alternity> 4:07 22:07 < asimon> ebol4: same 22:07 < Alternity> i guess i'm 7 minutes ahead of you guys 22:07 < ravioli> 4:07 22:07 < Alternity> i'd suggest buy buy buy 22:07 < Alternity> and sell sell sell in 7 minutes 22:08 < hexmonkey> I prefer to think of it as 1526414871 22:08 < ravioli> 4:08 22:08 < asimon> I'd buy in to your timeshare 22:09 < hexmonkey> i don't think anyone wants to share 4pm on a Tuesday 22:09 < FenJai> Good shout felda F34RInc . Its working now 22:10 < Sousapro> Anyone ever set up ue-v on windows 10? 22:10 < Sousapro> I'm an hour in and the stupid thing isn't working lol 22:13 < arlion> in bash, how would I get lines, say, 100-200 22:13 < hexmonkey> lines of what? 22:13 < hexmonkey> history? a text file? 22:13 < arlion> text file. 22:14 < hexmonkey> head -300 file.txt | tail -100 22:14 < arlion> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 22:14 < hexmonkey> or some math that adds up properly 22:15 < arlion> I wonder if head -n {100..200} works 22:15 < ebol4> hexmonkey is correct, but change last part to tail 200 22:16 < arlion> yeah, just the issue is that list is thousands of lines, and I'm trying to iterate through a 100 at a time. 22:16 < arlion> I guess I could just write a while loop with a counter in it. 22:16 < ebol4> yeah that would be the best way to go 22:17 < ebol4> assuming you meant reading in the whole file at once 22:17 < arlion> it's dynamically fetched inventory file, but yes. 22:17 < hexmonkey> yeah if there's a known number of lines then my way might work okay, but if it's a rolling number then maybe loop 22:18 < hexmonkey> also how the fuck is it still tuesday 22:18 * hexmonkey headdesks 22:19 < ravioli> right?! 22:19 * hexmonkey carefully avoids T0mb3ry SA carbon keycaps during headdesk 22:20 < hexmonkey> gah bad spelling coworkers 22:21 < hexmonkey> "The speeds he is getting are not within specks to what he ordered." 22:21 < hexmonkey> FULL. PICARD. FACEPALM. 22:22 < ebol4> 4:22 boys 22:22 < ebol4> a mere 40 minutes until i can legally leave the building 22:24 < znpy> lol 22:24 < hexmonkey> ebol4: legally? 22:25 < ebol4> the managers are permitted to use lethal force to prevent people from leaving early here 22:25 < AnimalFarmPig> I want to go home, but it appears that my internet service is still down at home :( 22:25 < estranger> lol 22:25 < znpy> guys, a quick question: does anybody know of something that I can do as a side-job with my sysadmin skills ? 22:25 < hexmonkey> AnimalFarmPig: go have a beer instead 22:25 < ebol4> znpy: can you juggle? 22:25 < estranger> znpy, I used to do Loss Prevention on the side when I worked as a sys admin 22:25 < AnimalFarmPig> hexmonkey: I have lots of beer at home... 22:25 < znpy> ebol4, i literally can't 22:25 < ebol4> circus is out then 22:26 < znpy> what is loss prevention ? 22:26 < hexmonkey> AnimalFarmPig: but the bar has wifi 22:26 < ebol4> znpy: they harass shoplifters 22:26 < estranger> daytime info wizard, nighttime shoplift thwarter 22:26 < precise> Who needs sleep? 22:26 < hexmonkey> znpy: make sysadmin-themed crafts and sell them on etsy? 22:26 < precise> lol 22:26 < AnimalFarmPig> hexmonkey: ehhh.... I've got 4G data on my phone and I suppose I could just tether it for my laptop 22:26 < precise> I want a do the needful fabric shopping bag 22:26 < precise> Or a BOFH year calendar 22:27 < hexmonkey> look at Mr Moneybags with his 4g and a laptop 22:27 < precise> Can I get a 12 month calendar of Sexy Stallman? 22:27 < ebol4> is that the guy that eats his foot skin 22:27 < AnimalFarmPig> I have the flagship Windows Phone 22:27 < Heresiarch> znpy: short-term 1099 IT jobs (pending existing employer approval)? 22:27 < AnimalFarmPig> a Lumia 950 22:27 < precise> ebol4: Maybe 22:27 < AnimalFarmPig> it was like $90 22:28 < hexmonkey> precise: at my last job the owner hosted a beer tasting around xmas and had pint glasses made every year that said things like "do the needful" or "liberating your waiter since 1996" 22:28 < precise> heh 22:28 < hexmonkey> REACTIVE + COVERUP = PROACTIVE 22:29 < hexmonkey> i think one year it had the company logo and "Powered by eBay" 22:33 <@cryptic1> evening 22:33 < precise> Hello 22:33 < ThatOneRoadie> Soup 22:33 < hexmonkey> GIRD YOUR LOINS CRYPTIC1 IS BACK 22:33 * precise girds 22:34 < hexmonkey> instructions unclear, loincloth caught in ceiling fan 22:36 < felda> little known fact that cryptic1 actually has GERD and does most of his sysadmin work on the toilet 22:37 < Gencade`> felda: how did you come across this? 22:37 < bvierra> anyone know of a good laptop stand that can roll over a lazy boy chair? 22:37 < felda> Gencade` it's because most of his work looks like poop XD 22:37 < Gencade`> hehe xd poop xd funny haha hehe xd 22:38 < Gencade`> I'm just wondering when cryptic1 is gonna -q my main client, it's been 4 days 22:38 < Gencade`> and he won't even respond to pm's 22:39 < precise> rip 22:39 < felda> cryptic1 we got somebody doing a ban evasion and this time it isn't even me 22:39 < Gencade`> it's not an evasion? 22:39 < alazare619> any of my Nebraska, oklahoma,kansas,texas sysadmins got any openings 22:39 < alazare619> i'm ready to GTFO of here 22:39 < precise> Gencade`: Guess wat 22:40 < Gencade`> precise: wat 22:40 < felda> alazare619 come move to illinois with me :D 22:40 < precise> got em 22:40 <@cryptic1> nice mute avoiding 22:40 < felda> HEUHEUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHEUHEU 22:40 < felda> just as planned 22:40 <@cryptic1> told ya you needed a break 22:40 < alazare619> felda at this point i probably would 22:40 < alazare619> i'm so over this place 22:40 < felda> you're close to IL right? 22:41 < alazare619> close ish 22:41 < alazare619> like 2 states over 22:41 < felda> you could move to IA and buy a cheap house for meth and not ever be able to leave because you're now addicted to meth 22:41 < aName> I love when people are screaming ''this doesn't work" and like... I go to use it and it works fine 22:41 < aName> To the point where I'm confused what they're trying to demonstrate 22:43 < alazare619> aName: i often wonder how people operate pc's some times 22:43 < alazare619> where they dont really understand how they even work 22:43 < alazare619> like people who dont understand start menu has options for programs installed 22:43 < alazare619> how do you even do your job ?! 22:43 < alazare619> do they just memorize actions? 22:44 < hexmonkey> aName: i usually have to tell them to start from scratch and show me every step 22:49 < CheckYourSix> Woot, violent thunderstorm is about to start 22:49 < scwizard> man 22:50 < scwizard> that feel when you automate something and you're like "well I probably won't use this but it's good just in case" 22:50 < scwizard> and then just in case comes and you've saved so much time 22:50 < CheckYourSix> What's a good (but really cheap) tablet for reading ebooks, maybe some light web browsing, Plex/Youtube 22:50 < CheckYourSix> scwizard: +++ 22:50 < hexmonkey> the radar for my area looks like the Nexus from that star trek movie 22:51 < CheckYourSix> We have a big strip of red about to hammer us 22:51 < Gencade`> Psh, you told me nothing, you haven't responded to any PM's crytpic1 22:51 < Gencade`> And it's been 4 days lol 22:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> anyone remember how to remove a msoluser from the GAL with powershell? 22:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> office365 22:52 < felda> speaking of Office365 22:52 < felda> have you guys found Office 365 marking emails as spam even though you have them whitelisted? 22:52 < Gencade`> I guess ban or q if you want, I can get around it with a new nick 22:52 < felda> or receiving emails that others have sent out? 22:52 < Gencade`> Seems kinda silly tho 22:52 < Gencade`> When I didn't even say anything that bad. 22:53 < precise> ... 22:53 <@cryptic1> Checkyoursix dell venue pros with win10 22:53 <@cryptic1> They have an 8 and a 10" 22:53 < DomLS3> cryptic1: back to work, after +v DomLS3 22:53 < CheckYourSix> cryptic1: Price? 22:54 <@cryptic1> Pretty cheap u can find refurbs 22:54 <@cryptic1> They were released couple years ago 22:54 < DomLS3> felda: That's not an office 365 thing, that's an outloko thing 22:54 < ebol4> fellas. it's 4:54 22:54 < CheckYourSix> Is it easy to just load win 10 on it if it doesn't come with it? 22:54 < DomLS3> 3:54 here :( 22:54 <@cryptic1> And its real win10 22:55 <@cryptic1> Yeah easy to load win10 on 22:55 < felda> DomLS3 my exchange is set to mark obvious spam with [SPAM] before going to the user but it isn't functioning properly 22:55 <@cryptic1> They originally came with win8 22:55 < DomLS3> felda: exchange or o365 22:55 < DomLS3> you said o365 22:55 < felda> Office 365 hosted exchange 22:55 <@cryptic1> I have win10 pro running on a 8" and a 10" 22:56 < felda> Exchange Online 22:56 < Gencade`> Why wasn't mal_will +q then cryptic1, she was saying things worse than me lol 22:56 < DomLS3> doesn't the spam go to their junk mail folder regardless of whether or not it's "obvious?" 22:56 < mal_will> You asked to see my "tits, bitch" 22:56 < mal_will> I shot it back, is all 22:56 < Gencade`> You did the same 22:56 < DomLS3> mal_will: show tits gd damnit 22:56 < mal_will> you did it first? 22:56 < DomLS3> tf you think this is, a sfw channel? 22:57 < mal_will> I mean, seems like that's how you want to converse 22:57 < mal_will> If you can't take it, don't start? 22:57 < DomLS3> whose tits are we arguing about 22:57 < Gencade`> I didn't think there was any bad blood 22:57 < Gencade`> I'm not angry about the conversation 22:57 < DomLS3> whose tits are we arguing about 22:57 < Gencade`> I'm just angry I've been qd for 4 days 22:57 <@cryptic1> You were being toxic 22:57 < mal_will> I didn't ask for that 22:57 < DomLS3> Gencade`: you should be qd. You a pleb 22:57 < mal_will> nor did I do it, sorry 22:57 < Gencade`> First in longer domls 22:58 < DomLS3> don't be a pleb and you don't get q 22:58 < felda> some vile autistry being orchestrated in here 22:58 < DomLS3> simple 22:58 < Gencade`> Cryptic1 and no one in here is ever toxic? 22:58 < DomLS3> crickets 22:58 < mal_will> There are levels 22:58 < felda> you should ask linuxdood what happens to toxic people >_> 22:58 < Gencade`> Even if they are, they don't get 4 day qs 22:58 < mal_will> you also doxed me Gencade` 22:58 < precise> You know what I noticed? 22:58 <@cryptic1> I have had it with the toxic bullshit here lately 22:58 < DomLS3> felda: yes. he is a prime example of what happens to toxic shit 22:58 < Gencade`> How did I do you? 22:58 < precise> This chan was fine until Gencade` got back in 22:58 < Gencade`> Dox?? 22:59 < mal_will> You divulged informationsaid in other channels, by other people 22:59 < DomLS3> can't we all just get along 22:59 < mal_will> I didn't want that info divulged 22:59 < precise> DomLS3: ++ 22:59 < DomLS3> make love not war 22:59 < Gencade`> I saw it in the channel mal_will 22:59 < Gencade`> Look at the logs 22:59 < DomLS3> precise: plus plussssssssss 22:59 < mal_will> in crude, not in here 22:59 < DomLS3> rekt 22:59 < precise> Thank you 22:59 < khelpw> ayyy 22:59 < DomLS3> rekt again 22:59 <@cryptic1> Keeps ban avoiding 22:59 < precise> Ban worthy offense IMO 22:59 <@Code_Man65> Yep 23:00 < felda> ~_~ 23:00 * felda has definitely never ban evaded 23:00 <@cryptic1> Felda you are next ;) 23:00 < xamithan> Why was gencade OP? 23:00 < precise> felda is not as toxic 23:00 < felda> D:> 23:00 < felda> wait no 23:00 < precise> :) 23:00 < felda> why did I put a wizard hat on him 23:00 <@cryptic1> Prepare ur butts 23:00 < DomLS3> Gencade definitely not an op 23:00 < felda> lol 23:00 < DomLS3> iif 23:00 < DomLS3> oof 23:00 < felda> D:< 23:00 < ravioli> oof 23:00 < xamithan> He muted me and kicked last week 23:00 < vinrock> any you guys in the northeast gettin slammed with this storm yet? 23:00 < xamithan> He was OP 23:00 < DomLS3> ban the nick too 23:01 < DomLS3> Gencade`@*!* 23:01 < precise> This is true 23:01 < DomLS3> Gencade*!* 23:01 < vinrock> ooh 23:01 < precise> Gencade was given OP at one point 23:01 < precise> As a joke 23:01 < vinrock> what did gencade do 23:01 <@cryptic1> Yes yes i am on mobile currently 23:01 < precise> vinrock: DOX + Ban Evade 23:01 < vinrock> !!! 23:01 < xamithan> I think he was angry I've had him on ignore list for months 23:01 < DomLS3> ignoring is for weebs 23:01 < DomLS3> you should be banned next 23:01 < precise> heh 23:01 < xamithan> O.o 23:01 < vinrock> hexmonkey we're about to die over here 23:02 <@cryptic1> Now on to felda 23:02 < vinrock> 101.5 keeps saying 80mph gusts, up to 2" hail, tornado warning in north jersey 23:02 < felda> nah fam it wasn't me 23:02 < CheckYourSix> vinrock: Yeah man 23:02 < DomLS3> cryptic1 sets mode +v DomLS3 23:02 < mal_will> felda doesn't seem that bad 23:02 < mal_will> can't we keep that one? 23:02 < felda> I like this person 23:02 <@cryptic1> He is anti dns 23:02 < ravioli> felda is better than all of you 23:02 < CheckYourSix> vinrock: The rain just started here. Wind is heavy already 23:02 < felda> I am a good boy 23:02 < DomLS3> anti dns and pro pfsense 23:02 < ebol4> what's wrong with dns 23:02 < precise> felda is god tier shitposter, but not toxic. 23:02 < DomLS3> not a good combo 23:02 < mal_will> anti DNS? 23:02 < vinrock> where you at checkyoursix? 23:02 < felda> DNS is evil 23:02 < precise> DNS = Damn Nice Sneks 23:03 <@cryptic1> Felda here take this 8.8.8.8 23:03 < felda> it should be removed from the Earth 23:03 < felda> hsssssssssssssssss 23:03 * precise puts felda into his hosts file 23:03 < ebol4> FELLAS. IT'S 5:03 PM 23:03 < DomLS3> pfsense should be removed from the earth 23:03 < felda> it doth burn my skin 23:03 < mal_will> what is the alternative to DNS on a massive scale? 23:03 < ebol4> IT'S TIME 23:03 < ebol4> IT'S FINALLY TIME 23:03 < felda> Host files no doubt 23:03 < precise> mal_will: cat felda > /etc/hosts 23:03 < khelpw> Someone said snek? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/WnQkz8Qu/image.png 23:03 < precise> I like esnek 23:03 < felda> I will bring the updated host file by everyone's house every friday and give them a USB drive with the host file 23:03 < mal_will> remember to drop in some food files precise 23:03 < precise> khelpw: cute fucker :) 23:03 < DomLS3> hosts file IS dns 23:03 < felda> it's the only way 23:03 < DomLS3> it's manual DNS 23:04 < ravioli> DomLS3: ssh 23:04 < precise> felda: nice 23:04 < mal_will> I like them poky noses khelpw 23:04 < DomLS3> ravioli: you not the boss of me 23:04 < ravioli> it's "your" not the boss of me 23:04 < khelpw> She's a good shovelface. 23:04 < precise> ravioli: nuuuuu 23:04 < precise> gtfo 23:04 < DomLS3> actually, it's "you're" ravioli 23:04 < precise> You're 23:04 < precise> lmao 23:04 < DomLS3> good one 23:04 < precise> lrn 2 spel 23:04 < ravioli> o i didn't know 23:04 < DomLS3> I should get +v for a week 23:04 < DomLS3> for that fuck up 23:04 < precise> Same 23:05 < precise> hahah 23:05 < precise> danke JollyRgrs 23:05 < DomLS3> Gencade just getting all kinds of rekt 23:05 < alazare619> rekt 23:05 < ravioli> precise: it's "dank" 23:05 < ravioli> er... 23:05 < ravioli> its "dank" 23:05 < mal_will> You deopped yourself? 23:05 < precise> heh 23:05 < DomLS3> he has like 7 ban entires on the ban list 23:05 < JollyRgrs> mal_will: i hit my 2 ban limit, so my @ goes on cooldown 23:05 < precise> mal_will: Do you run domain admin all the time? 23:05 < precise> ;) 23:05 < JollyRgrs> i can't afford the lootboxes to get my ban limit upped 23:05 < precise> Heh 23:05 < alazare619> so what your saying JollyRgrs 23:06 * precise sends cryptic1 some lootboxes on behalf of JollyRgrs 23:06 < alazare619> is you blew your wad 23:06 < ravioli> unlike killdash9 23:06 < mal_will> lol neat JollyRgrs 23:06 < ravioli> i've heard killdash9 gets a discount on lootboxes 23:06 < precise> He does 23:06 < ravioli> er... "ive heard" 23:06 < corn266> Great news everyone! Your favorite internet browser Microsoft Edge is now available on iphones and android devices 23:06 < alazare619> i heard killdash9 uses viagra 23:06 < JollyRgrs> alazare619: wad? this isn't doom, why are you talking about wads? 23:06 <@Code_Man65> ravioli: It's actually a discount on handies 23:06 * precise smacks ravioli 23:06 <@killdash9> alazare619: your mom told you? 23:06 < mal_will> precise: red forest seems neat 23:06 * precise smacks corn266 23:06 * ravioli smack's precise 23:06 < DomLS3> Code_Man65 gives a good handy 23:06 < precise> ravioli: ur grammar is bad 23:06 < alazare619> i found it on the nightstand 23:06 < alazare619> had to ask 23:07 < ravioli> precise: you're* 23:07 < JollyRgrs> i'm headed home (in the rain)... wish me luck 23:07 < precise> Nope 23:07 < precise> ur 23:07 < felda> wowzer DomLS3 that's a bit far 23:07 < precise> is slang 23:07 < DomLS3> ravioli: troll rule violated 23:07 <@killdash9> only way anyone could get it up around her 23:07 < precise> wtf is going on 23:07 < ravioli> oh fkn rekt 23:07 < alazare619> your not wrong 23:07 < precise> lol 23:07 < ravioli> alazare619: it's you're 23:07 < DomLS3> rong* 23:07 < JollyRgrs> REKTIFIED! 23:07 < ravioli> wait shit 23:07 < corn266> you're'st've 23:07 * precise smacks DomLS3 23:07 < DomLS3> I can't tell who is shitposting and who is legit a dumbass anymore 23:07 < CheckYourSix> vinrock: Northern NJ 23:07 < precise> !submit ban-request corn266 23:07 * DomLS3 steps on a snek 23:08 < precise> !submit ban-request DomLS3 23:08 < precise> I'm 99% corn266 and DomLS3 are alts for Gencade 23:08 < precise> Mods, please dtn 23:08 < DomLS3> hhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaa 23:08 < ravioli> everyone here is a gencade alt account besides you precise. 23:08 < corn266> ^ 23:08 < precise> :O 23:08 < DomLS3> Or, maybe precise IS Gencade 23:08 <@cryptic1> DomLS3 BANT! 23:08 < DomLS3> trying to push his Gencadeness off on others 23:09 < corn266> cryptic1 it's not doxing if we all knew it 23:10 < mal_will> I think I'm not an alt 23:10 < mal_will> how can I tell? 23:10 < felda> according to linuxdood DomLS3 should be banned no doubt 23:10 < precise> ALERT 23:10 < precise> ALERT 23:10 < precise> Gencade alt detected 23:10 * precise looks at Suds_ 23:10 < precise> Account registered 3 minutes ago 23:11 < precise> Awwww 23:11 < precise> ravioli: y u ruin the fun 23:11 < precise> lol 23:11 <@ravioli> gencade i don't hate you but freenode will kline you if you keep this up ok? 23:11 < DomLS3> felda: too bad linuxdood got hit by an airplane and no longer is part of this channel 23:11 < Suds_> I just want some justification is all ravioli 23:11 <@cryptic1> te 23:11 <@ravioli> idk it but you're just feeding them excuses to keep you bant 23:11 < DomLS3> Suds_: Justification is ban evading multiple times 23:11 <@cryptic1> that was random 23:11 < mal_will> wow 23:11 < DomLS3> If you would have just waited like 5 mins you would have probably been unbanned 23:11 < mal_will> g2g 23:12 < precise> ./popcorn.sh 23:12 < DomLS3> ./cheeseburger.php 23:12 < precise> >php 23:12 < precise> git out 23:12 < DomLS3> php is the tits 23:12 <@cryptic1> fixed 23:12 < precise> k tnx 23:13 < precise> DomLS3: It's easy, but dirty 23:13 * precise resists urge to make joke 23:13 < xtensive> ./givemeapepsifree.py 23:13 < DomLS3> Gencade: if you PM cryptic1 with "ur a bitch" he will honor your honesty and testicle sizes and unban you 23:13 < DomLS3> oof 23:13 <@ravioli> don't taunt the muted 23:14 < DomLS3> I taunted Gencade 23:14 < DomLS3> the muted is Suds 23:14 < precise> heh 23:14 < precise> Technical foul 23:14 < DomLS3> get on my level 23:14 < felda> come on now DomLS3 learn some humility 23:14 < precise> Aight, I gotta get ready for this meeting with boss 23:14 < felda> or get bant like I was 23:14 < precise> Send me some good juju 23:15 < mal_will> juju gold for precise 23:15 < precise> tx 23:15 < DomLS3> felda: humility is not a word I am framiliar with 23:15 < precise> Neither is grammar apparently 23:15 < precise> ;) 23:15 < DomLS3> ;) 23:15 < DomLS3> I thought we were still shotposting grammer stuff 23:15 < felda> get a room you two 23:15 < DomLS3> my fault 23:15 < precise> Error: Unexpected ; on line 4. 23:15 < DomLS3> in my defense, grammar != spelling 23:15 <@ravioli> i knew it 23:16 < precise> lmfao ravioli 23:16 < DomLS3> haha precise what a pleb doesn't even have auto join 23:16 < precise> I do tho 23:16 < DomLS3> slow af tho 23:16 < precise> DomLS3: It's artifically delayed because some networks don't like quick autorejoins 23:16 < DomLS3> precise: sounds like an excuse 23:16 < precise> I mean 23:16 < precise> I can change it 23:16 < precise> In my config 23:17 < precise> But I dont wanna 23:17 < DomLS3> you mean 23:17 < DomLS3> you can turn it back on 23:17 < DomLS3> because it wasn't on 23:17 < precise> I can set it to 0 23:17 < felda> that's what I have it set to :D 23:17 < DomLS3> and now you tryna save plebian face 23:17 < precise> felda: lol 23:17 < precise> DomLS3: My plebian face has nothing to do with my autojoin 23:17 < DomLS3> precise: lack of autojoin* 23:17 < precise> ktnxbye 23:18 < DomLS3> I will step on another snek 23:18 < DomLS3> don't you tempt me boi 23:18 < admiralspark> I see we're accomplishing a lot today 23:18 < ravioli> *where 23:18 < DomLS3> Today has been a good day 23:19 < admiralspark> It's Tuesday though 23:19 < DomLS3> Tuesday > Monday 23:19 < corn266> one less day till friday 23:19 < felda> are you guys sure you don't want to give me +v? 23:19 < felda> I could be a shining beacon for the community 23:19 < DomLS3> felda: the only one who deserves +v in here is m 23:19 < DomLS3> e 23:19 < felda> "This is the type of +v you should be!" 23:20 < DomLS3> I should have had it for a MONTH but nooo the +v bot rekt itself 23:21 < DomLS3> besides, anyone who thinks pfsense is good deserves an immediate permabant 23:21 < corn266> Is there anywhere that I can see the contents of a phone update? Like the changelog or something? 23:22 < DomLS3> I wonder who "bitch" is 23:22 < ServChan> yo bitch 23:22 < DomLS3> lmfao 23:22 < ServChan> sup bitch 23:22 < admiralspark> man, I'm having a bitch of a time with this script 23:22 < admiralspark> ooo 23:23 < DomLS3> my bitch ass dog shit on the floor 23:23 < corn266> just sudo it admiralspark 23:23 < admiralspark> it tags if I say bitches right? 23:23 < DomLS3> I think so 23:23 < admiralspark> corn266: nah I was just pinging bitch 23:23 < DomLS3> admiralspark: he missed the jkoe 23:23 < DomLS3> joke* 23:23 < admiralspark> :/ por corn 23:24 < admiralspark> poor* corn266 * 23:24 < corn266> please admiralspark corn266 is my father's name, just call me corn 23:24 < admiralspark> don't ever talk to me or my corn again 23:24 < bitch> yo ServChan :) 23:24 < bitch> hay admiralspark <3 23:24 < felda> dawg common 23:24 < admiralspark> sup gurl 23:24 < felda> s/common/come on 23:25 < bitch> not much 23:25 < bitch> portscanning a IP 23:25 < admiralspark> sounds like fun 23:25 < bitch> i used to work at the place that owns it. 23:25 < admiralspark> what'd the ip ever do to you?!? 23:25 < admiralspark> oh 23:26 < alazare619> someone is using my old bnc crew 23:26 < alazare619> <---was an admin for elitebnc 23:26 < bitch> Hug Robby :P 23:27 < bitch> 198.50.219.243 23:27 < ServChan> pooptastic 23:28 < ServChan> `seen cryptic1 cryptic1 23:29 <@cryptic1> seen ServChan 23:29 <@cryptic1> got em 23:29 < corn266> mods murdered layer-eight in cold blood 23:29 < ServChan> @SEEN@ 23:29 < ServChan> ISEEN ISEEN 23:29 < bitch> 25, 110, 993, 995, 9100 23:30 < ServChan> bitch what up 23:30 < admiralspark> bitch, just use shodan 23:30 < admiralspark> they already did the enumeration 23:30 < xtensive> standard mail ports 23:30 < bitch> 9100 is for printer 23:30 < ServChan> as long as it's over 9000 23:30 < admiralspark> I like how this box is accepting web traffic, mail, DNS queries, and ftp 23:31 < corn266> ((honeypot)) 23:31 < xtensive> tp in there as anonymous admiralspark 23:31 < xtensive> *FTP 23:31 < admiralspark> why? 23:32 < admiralspark> I'd rather not end up on a list ;) 23:32 < xtensive> because it's waiting for you 23:33 < corn266> It looks like anonymous login is disabled 23:33 < admiralspark> yeah 23:33 < xtensive> boo 23:33 < bitch> it's a zoo to be honest 23:33 < admiralspark> also I don't have the patience to set up and use a vpn 23:33 < corn266> pia 23:33 < admiralspark> just to poke an ftp site someone posted in IRC 23:33 < admiralspark> corn266: via ssh to a vps though? 23:33 < admiralspark> I'd never get that 15 minutes back 23:35 < corn266> okay then 23:36 <+NinjaStyle> I am about to try Whataburger 23:36 < DomLS3> s/what/dick 23:37 < DomLS3> ugh fuckin layer-eight 23:38 < xtensive> report back NinjaStyle 23:39 <+NinjaStyle> Seems pretty average tbh 23:39 < xtensive> I was pretty disappointed in Larkburger 23:42 < corn266> couldn't connect via regular web browser 23:44 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah idk 23:44 < Sousapro> NinjaStyle: it is pretty average but it tends to be very consistent 23:44 <+NinjaStyle> It wasn't bad or anything 23:44 < Sousapro> NinjaStyle: like 1am? tastes the same 23:44 < Sousapro> all of the times I've been there it was fresh 23:45 < Sousapro> (I've been there hundreds of times because I grew up in San Antonio lol) 23:45 < Sousapro> I still miss bill millers being all over the place 23:45 < Sousapro> imagine a bbq joint in every place a mcdonalds is in most cities 23:45 < Sousapro> it wasn't terribly good but it was fast and better than McD 23:45 <+NinjaStyle> I am staying right next to one so I guess I will have a few more chances to try it if I wanna 23:46 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah I had mcd last night 23:46 < Sousapro> bill millers? 23:46 < Sousapro> or Whataburger? 23:46 <+NinjaStyle> Whataburger 23:46 < corn266> Someone dissin Whataburger? 23:46 < Sousapro> corn266: NinjaStyle 23:46 < corn266> Must be a yankee 23:47 < xtensive> Torchy's tacos is totally overrated too speaking of TX food 23:47 < corn266> wtf is Torchy's 23:47 <@killdash9> feel free to dis Whataburger...I've lived in Texas almost 25 years. Still think they are meh. 23:47 <+NinjaStyle> We have torchys in Denver 23:47 < Sousapro> soulman's BBQ is really good 23:47 <@killdash9> xtensive: you take it back about Torchy's. 23:47 < TuxedoJack> Torchy's is crap, except for the secret menu 23:47 < TuxedoJack> The Mad Cow is fucking tasty 23:47 <+NinjaStyle> I thought it was ok as well. I just had 3 different breakfast ones when I went 23:47 <@killdash9> the Roscoe at Torchy's...god damn masterpiece 23:48 < xtensive> We got a Torchy's and I was underwhelmed TWICE just like my ex 23:48 < TuxedoJack> Papalote is better 23:48 < corn266> "Now with extra prions!" 23:48 <@killdash9> NinjaStyle: if all you had was breakfast ones you missed out 23:48 <@killdash9> Torchy's breakfast tacos are okay 23:48 < TuxedoJack> http://kut.org/post/torchys-secret-taco-menu-revealed 23:48 <+NinjaStyle> Ah, I'll have to try some others next time 23:48 < TuxedoJack> The Ace of Spades is pretty decent too 23:49 < admiralspark> xtensive: you poor bastard 23:50 <@killdash9> The Roscoe: take a tortilla, corn is better, put a waffle on top, then a fried egg, friend chicken, some bacon, and drown in maple syrup. Heaven 23:50 <+NinjaStyle> Sounds sweet af tho 23:51 <@killdash9> it's only on the menu one month a year. And I eat there a couple times a week all month long. 23:54 <+NinjaStyle> Why is Whataburger only in tx? 23:55 < PacoSinbad> As a Texan, I agree that Whataburger is meh and no one is losing anything by not having it. I think Torchy's is pretty good. I get the Trailer Park. Always trashy. 23:55 < sadbox> NinjaStyle: it's in 10 states yo 23:55 < sadbox> also what PacoSinbad said 23:55 < sadbox> It's just fast food burgers 23:55 <@killdash9> PacoSinbad: Hillbilly Trailer Park is even better 23:55 < xtensive> the trailer park wasn't bad PacoSinbad also trashy 23:56 < PacoSinbad> Hillbilly?? 23:56 < bitch> Have you eaten ground beef recently? Ground beef is the result of everything outside of the cow's bones (including nerves) being ground up. Ground beef often contains prions (misfolded proteins) which due to mammalic protein metabolism act virally and will cause you to come down with Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD) where your brain slowly decays due to holes forming in your brain. 23:56 < xtensive> what's hillbilly killdash9 ? 23:56 <@killdash9> PacoSinbad: add bacon and chorizo 23:56 < PacoSinbad> Daaaang.... Queso still? And no lettuce? 23:56 < sadbox> bitch: do you have that in a macro? 23:56 <@killdash9> yep. 23:56 < xtensive> that is no longer a taco 23:56 < PacoSinbad> Next time... :o 23:57 < xtensive> that's like a mexican fiesta plate or something 23:57 < bitch> sadbox, copypasta 23:57 < Spr1ng> Anyone else noticed that the Content Search feature is now gone in Office 365? YEP! Well done Microdicks. 23:57 < xtensive> grind your own bitch 23:58 < sadbox> NinjaStyle: I think people are similarly over-enthused with in n out and five guys 23:58 < xtensive> never been to in n out, five guys is good, not life changing or anything 23:58 < sadbox> in n out is just thin shitty burgers and tiny fries that get cold in 30 seconds 23:58 < PacoSinbad> Never had five guys, but In n Out is pretty good. Not spectacular. 23:58 < xtensive> smashburger is better IMO 23:58 <@killdash9> I like In-n-Out but mostly because it reminds me of visiting my grandmother in L.A. in the 70s and going to get it. 23:58 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah actually Whataburger is a lot like more meh fiveguys 23:59 < PacoSinbad> I like the thin patties. 23:59 < xtensive> ++ PacoSinbad 23:59 < sadbox> PacoSinbad: real talk, it's basically a mcdonalds burger 23:59 < admiralspark> what about CHIK-FIL-A 23:59 < PacoSinbad> admiralspark: Also over-rated. It's good though. 23:59 <+NinjaStyle> Chik fil a is weird good --- Log closed Wed May 16 00:00:17 2018