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00:00 <+NinjaStyle> They must trim most of the chicken off
00:00 < PacoSinbad> It's simple, but they do a good job.
00:00 < admiralspark> So like
00:00 <+NinjaStyle> It's such high quality chicken usually
00:00 < xtensive> chik fil-a is awesome, plus waffle fries
00:00 < admiralspark> what's underrated but still a chain?
00:00 < xtensive> burgerking
00:00 <+NinjaStyle> Ew
00:00 < xtensive> lol
00:01 < PacoSinbad> After I wrote that, I was trying to think of anything, lol.
00:01 <+NinjaStyle> I'm not a fan of bk
00:01 < xtensive> seriously BK is so disgusting
00:01 < PacoSinbad> I used to really like Taco Bell. It's fine now. I used to really like Panda Express... I still do as far as I know.
00:01 <+NinjaStyle> Taco Bell is usually solid
00:01 < xe0n> taco tac
00:01 < xe0n> o
00:01 < xtensive> Sonic drive-in
00:01 <+NinjaStyle> Sonic makes me nervous
00:01 < admiralspark> Taco Bell: Rent lunch
00:02 < PacoSinbad> Sonic is a pretty dang good place... It kind of surprises me.
00:02 < admiralspark> as in, you rent it, you don't buy it :P
00:02 <+NinjaStyle> I knew too many gross kids in high school who worked at Sonic
00:02 < admiralspark> I'mma add Samurai Sams to the underrated list, they're cheap as shit for what you get
00:02 < PacoSinbad> Never heard of Samurai Sams.
00:03 < admiralspark> They're small, does yakisoba bowls and rice bowls
00:03 < torquellini> Penis
00:03 <+NinjaStyle> Tokyo Joe's is good
00:03 < PacoSinbad> Subway is pretty good too... Another one that surprises me, heh.
00:03 < xtensive> oh yeah, Jimmy Johns too
00:03 < admiralspark> man, I've seen a massive decline in the quality of subway
00:03 <+NinjaStyle> I don't like subway
00:03 <+NinjaStyle> The bread is weird
00:04 < PacoSinbad> Spicy Italian on Italian Herb and Cheese.
00:04 < dragonfleas> i just installed a server locally
00:04 < admiralspark> mmhmm
00:04 < dragonfleas> i want users to connect using ssl
00:04 < dragonfleas> web server
00:04 < admiralspark> mmhmm
00:04 < admiralspark> and
00:04 < dragonfleas> how do i trust local certificate on everyone's PC
00:04 < PacoSinbad> admiralspark is Google Assistant!
00:04 < PacoSinbad> confirmed.
00:04 <+NinjaStyle> dragonfleas: use letsencrypt
00:04 < admiralspark> You don't, you use an internal CA, dragonfleas
00:05 < dragonfleas> admiralspark, any good youtube tuts for setting up a CA?
00:05 < admiralspark> he means locally like his local machine though, right dragonfleas
00:05 < dragonfleas> never done it before
00:05 < admiralspark> no, are you microsoft?
00:05 <+NinjaStyle> Why would you do that
00:05 < admiralspark> or a *nix shop
00:05 < dragonfleas> wat
00:05 <+NinjaStyle> Just use letsencrypt
00:05 < admiralspark> NinjaStyle: again, he's local to his workstation
00:05 < dragonfleas> it's just an intranet site and i don't want the "certificate issue" page
00:06 < admiralspark> dragonfleas: what kind of enviro, microsoft or *nix
00:06 < dragonfleas> microsoft
00:06 <+NinjaStyle> You can still put a real cert on it as long as you have a legit domain
00:06 < dragonfleas> that's $$$$$$
00:06 < dragonfleas> i don't wanna $$$$$$
00:06 <+NinjaStyle> Barely
00:06 < dragonfleas> my org is tight
00:06 < dragonfleas> non-profit state funded broke as fuck
00:07 <+NinjaStyle> $5 a year tight?
00:07 < dragonfleas> wtf
00:07 < dragonfleas> what cert can you get for 5 a year?!?!??
00:07 <+NinjaStyle> Free on letsencrypt
00:07 < dragonfleas> link?
00:07 <+NinjaStyle> Letsencrypt.com
00:07 <+NinjaStyle> It's actually letsencrypt.org
00:08 < admiralspark> dragonfleas: Microsoft enterprise CA, just google it, there's a million tuts for it. LetsEncrypt only works if they can reach yours erver
00:08 < admiralspark> your server*
00:08 <+NinjaStyle> Nope
00:08 <+NinjaStyle> U can dns challenge too
00:08 < admiralspark> he specifically says "intranet"
00:08 < admiralspark> what
00:08 <+NinjaStyle> I do it for phishing all the time
00:09 < admiralspark> wait, you have LetsEncrypt dynamically editing TXT fields in your DNS records?
00:09 <+NinjaStyle> You just give a dns arg to certbot and it has you create a text record
00:09 < admiralspark> automatic?\
00:09 < admiralspark> hmmm
00:09 <+NinjaStyle> Maybe, I always do it manually though
00:10 < admiralspark> but you must be doing this on a server that is allowed to make edits to your root DNS?
00:10 <+NinjaStyle> I make the dns change manually
00:10 < admiralspark> every 90 days??
00:10 <+NinjaStyle> But you can probably do it via the api
00:11 <+NinjaStyle> Phishing domains are usually only up for like a week or 2
00:11 < admiralspark> not sure what you mean by the phishing domains one
00:11 <+NinjaStyle> But yeah if you wanted to automate just use dns registrar api
00:11 < Ayeitzabee> Morning yall
00:12 <+NinjaStyle> admiralspark: like if I was phishing your company
00:13 <+NinjaStyle> I always put a cert on phishing site
00:13 <+NinjaStyle> People see the lock and go "oh this is safe"
00:13 < admiralspark> ohhhhhhhhhhhhh okay nvm
00:13 < admiralspark> was thinking phishing emails and SMTPS
00:13 < admiralspark> so
00:14 <+NinjaStyle> Oh, no just the landing page
00:14 <+NinjaStyle> But I use dns challenge because a lot of phishing frameworks don't play nice with certbot
00:16 <+NinjaStyle> I keep parking my rental car like I own it
00:16 < xtensive> Are you in Austin NinjaStyle ?
00:16 <+NinjaStyle> Dallas
00:17 < xtensive> aaah
00:17 < xtensive> how is it?
00:17 <+NinjaStyle> It's ok
00:17 <+NinjaStyle> I have a lot of work to do
00:17 <+NinjaStyle> So it's not very fun
00:17 < xtensive> That's a bummer, no time to explore
00:18 <+NinjaStyle> I probably could but I keep bringing work back to the hotel
00:18 <+NinjaStyle> Like I get back to the hotel at 4
00:20 <+NinjaStyle> parked with max distance https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/tgtTZLru/irccloudcapture8835429053668988530.jpg
00:21 <+NinjaStyle> Not even my car
00:21 <+NinjaStyle> Door already dinged
00:22 < xtensive> those are some wide ass parking spots!
00:22 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah for real
00:23 < xtensive> it really is true what they say
00:23 < CheckYourSix> Good god. That's like a double spot
00:23 <+NinjaStyle> I'm the one on the end if that wasn't apparent
00:23 < xtensive> everything is bigger in Texas
00:23 < MillerBOSS> Enchance
00:23 < MillerBOSS> ;)
00:24 < MillerBOSS> fuck
00:24 < xtensive> me
00:24 < MillerBOSS> enhance
00:24 < MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiqkclCJsZs
00:25 < xtensive> did anyone see the sequel?  Was it terrible?
00:25 < MillerBOSS> Looks like the mexican prison there in the back ground in Prison Break
00:25 < MillerBOSS> I have not yet
00:27 < MillerBOSS> Oh its Sona in Panama https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Aerial_photograph_of_Penitenciar%C3%ADa_Federal_de_Sona.png Man that was a good TV show
00:28 < scwizard> dude
00:28 < scwizard> i can't believe this works lol
00:28 < scwizard> http://vpaste.net/bzz6Y
00:30 < ServChan> poop
00:30 < MillerBOSS> ee
00:30 < MillerBOSS> scwizard 👉 What is it?
00:31 < scwizard> MillerBOSS: I needed to figure out the correct subnet id to pass into packer but...
00:31 < MillerBOSS> Ahh. What are you making?
00:31 < scwizard> the official packer docker image doesn't have any aws apis installed
00:31 < scwizard> so I wrote a bash script that can actually interface with aws
00:31 < scwizard> took all fucking day lol
00:32 < MillerBOSS> Did you learn anything?
00:32 < scwizard> fuck newlines
00:32 < scwizard> is the main lesson
00:32 < MillerBOSS> So then its worth it right?
00:32 < scwizard> yeah totally
00:32 < MillerBOSS> Good. :)
00:34 < scwizard> ok time to go home
00:34 < scwizard> tomorrow i need to get it actually working
00:35 < scwizard> like do the terraform for the ami that packer will use, do the packer, put thing in the gitlab ci file, so that we have cd of amis
00:39 < ServChan> life of the parteh
00:39 < ServChan> .ping cryptic1
00:39 < MillerBOSS> How big?
00:39 < ServChan> big enough to do damages
00:39 < MillerBOSS> OK ready when you are.
00:45 < ServChan> Exchange/VMware Engineer
00:45 < ServChan> new role is chill man
00:45 < MillerBOSS> Do you have to wear a jacket?
00:46 < ServChan> I am wearing one tehe
00:46 < ServChan> but it's not a blazer
00:46 < MillerBOSS> :P What type of VMware set up do you got rolling?
00:47 < MillerBOSS> No its a cardigan but thanks for noticing.
00:47 < ServChan> UCS on H-A
00:47 < Ayeitzabee> How would I go about trying to force outlook to use the first (and only) certificate available to it for signing?
00:47 < ServChan> not much popping and it's too good
00:48 < ServChan> not working like a cryptic1
00:48 < Ayeitzabee> Currently staff members have a s/mime certificate but it is still making them go and manually set it up when they send an email for the first time
00:48 < rpifan> hi cunts
00:48 < ServChan> mmm cunts
00:48 < Ayeitzabee> Eww its rpifan
00:49 < rpifan> lol
00:49 < rpifan> ServChan, r u a chan bot
00:49 < ServChan> no im an AI
00:49 < ServChan> not a bot
00:49 < rpifan> ai ao ai ao
00:49 < Holo> Same thing
00:49 < ServChan> ok fine lol
00:53 < MillerBOSS> https://tp69.wordpress.com/2018/04/17/completely-silent-computer/
00:55 < MillerBOSS> Corn on the cob time.
00:56 < corn266> .smirk
00:56 < corn266> shit autoreplace is off
00:56 < ServChan> s/autoreplace/
00:57 < corn266> Need some vidya recommendations
00:57 < xamithan> You got to share cobs with the channel
00:57  * corn266 didn't bring enough
00:58 < MillerBOSS> I got the salt and butter
00:58 < ServChan> chili on top sounds good
01:00 < ServChan> .whois bomb
01:00 < ServChan> o-bomb-a
01:00 < corn266> .whois ServChan
01:01 < ServChan> --------status unknown-------
01:01 < corn266> What? Are you for real?
01:01 < ServChan> nawp
01:01 < corn266> dang
01:02 <@cryptic1> ServChan, never lies
01:02 < ServChan> im an honest king
01:03 < ServChan> the last of he dying breed
01:03 < corn266> So how are y'all obscuring your IP? Mainly the cryptic1@unaffiliated ?
01:03 <@cryptic1> you can go into #freenode and ask for a cloak
01:03 < ServChan> masking
01:03 < MillerBOSS> Or a bouncer/proxy
01:03 < MillerBOSS> Such as ZNC
01:03 <@cryptic1> or both
01:04 < MillerBOSS> Right
01:04 < ServChan> just leave it open
01:04 <@cryptic1> right precise
01:04 < MillerBOSS> lol
01:04 < MillerBOSS> Good idea ServChan
01:04 < ServChan> no doubt
01:05 < ServChan> no more copypasta bot?
01:05 < ServChan> MillerBOSS
01:05 < MillerBOSS> Look at cryptic1 for that
01:05 < corn266> Yea cryptic1 I still haven't gotten a definite answer on what happened to layer-eight
01:05 < MillerBOSS> Its here just need a +v
01:05 < ServChan> he just doesn't want to be `seen
01:06 <@cryptic1> its taking a break
01:06 < MillerBOSS> Well when you do that 10 times a day ServChan
01:06 < ServChan> maybe 2
01:06 < ServChan> lurking it
01:06 < ServChan> cryptic1 that guy
01:06 < Casteil> https://i.imgur.com/NDTOQbA.jpg aww yeah, low-effort mother's day gift :D
01:07 < Casteil> knife is mine
01:07 < Casteil> she ain't gettin my fancy knife
01:08 < corn266> what is that a cake cutter?
01:08 < CheckYourSix> I feel really dumb right now. My excel chart is stopping at 50 data points for this column graph and not going beyond that. Is there some sort of cap?
01:08 < corn266> why aren't you just exporting the data as a tsv and using python to graph it?
01:09 < MillerBOSS> But of course!
01:09 < MillerBOSS> Like we all know how to do that corn266 :P
01:09 < CheckYourSix> corn266: ^
01:09 < MillerBOSS> Learn us
01:09 < corn266> give me a moment
01:09 < Casteil> "a transmission failure is no big deal, why aren't you just taking it apart and rebuilding it?"
01:11 < misspwn> how bout them spring windows updates
01:11 < misspwn> how bout them fuckin up my dayyyy
01:11 < MillerBOSS> Which ones now?
01:11 < misspwn> is it 1803 i don't know
01:11 < xamithan> It asked me to reboot last night so I disabled the update service
01:11 < misspwn> what i do know is that it's uninstalling network drivers though
01:12 < MillerBOSS> Oh. Maybe stop it from installing :)
01:12 < MillerBOSS> Wow that sucks
01:12 < silentfury> hey, it's not your fault your org is too cheap to get win10 enterprise
01:12 < MillerBOSS> What will Enterprise do?
01:12 < misspwn> also RDP not working unless the update goes on the pc and the server...so weak
01:13 < xamithan> Lets you turn off the autoreboot stuff and updates
01:13 < misspwn> i don't think that has to do with the big update though
01:13 < misspwn> xamithan, yeah and you know what happens with that? people just quit getting updates
01:13 < xamithan> Nah,  the admin will control them at that point
01:13 < misspwn> because they either don't restart their computer, or they shut it off at night/weekend and then wonder why shit breaks
01:14 < misspwn> i went into a few computers today and saw that they've had windows updates "never"
01:14 < misspwn> so that's going to be fun
01:14 < MillerBOSS> Force all machines to reboot
01:14 < MillerBOSS> Set up WSUS
01:14 < misspwn> i'd get in some serious shit if i did that
01:14 < xamithan> If they shut it off at night they going to have to wait when they get in the next day,  lol
01:14 < misspwn> we have it set to run after 5pm
01:14 < misspwn> so if they shut er down then the following day it should run
01:14 < MillerBOSS> Well if you manage Windows machines and want shit updated reboots are needed.
01:15 < MillerBOSS> Use WoL?
01:15 < MillerBOSS> Wake on LAN
01:15 < xamithan> Too fancy
01:15 < silentfury> Enterprise is the only way to control Win10 with GPO's anymore.
01:15 < MillerBOSS> Oh
01:15 < misspwn> it's something we are working on. some of these companies are just that
01:15 < MillerBOSS> I set up WSUS just to stop 1803 and manage updates from now on
01:15 <+NinjaStyle> is starbucks wifi fast?
01:15 < xamithan> fast is a relative term
01:16 < misspwn> MillerBOSS, then you can choose which updates to push through?
01:16 < MillerBOSS> Yes
01:16 < MillerBOSS> WSUS setup is fairly easy
01:16 < xamithan> It should be a round 9megs or so
01:17 <+NinjaStyle> meh
01:17 < ServChan> mehgs
01:17 <+NinjaStyle> im considering going there just to download a file since my hotel wifi is dog shit slow
01:17 < MillerBOSS> And you can set a deadline misspwn
01:17 < xamithan> Some of them have google fiber and do 100meg
01:17 < xamithan> If you in a large area
01:18 < ServChan> youtube tv
01:18 < MillerBOSS> I was testing lasting night on production of course and set a deadline last night for 520am and all Windows 10 machines rebooted for updates at 9am lol
01:18 < ServChan> nice
01:18 < MillerBOSS> So much for that deadline
01:19 < xamithan> testing lasting night
01:19 < MillerBOSS> So slack lit up with >My computer just restarted by itself
01:21 < ServChan> them testying was good for you
01:21 < MillerBOSS> I see now I should make the deadline a day or two out but how am I to know how it is going to act without trying. You'd think since I set the deadline at 11pm for 2018-05 updates with a deadline of 6h 20m that there would be no isseue
01:21 < MillerBOSS> issue*
01:22 < ServChan> seamless
01:22 < MillerBOSS> Naturally
01:22 < ServChan> eazy breezy
01:22 < ServChan> sippity slide
01:23 < MillerBOSS> With vegetable oil or lard?
01:23 < ServChan> thought it was natually
01:24 < admiralspark> *yawn*
01:24 < ServChan> Vaseline it
01:24 < admiralspark> this day
01:24 < MillerBOSS> That might get expensive.
01:24 < ServChan> I don't do cheap
01:25 < admiralspark> MillerBOSS: did you follow any good guides? I specifically want to do WSUS without drivers/driver store and with the maintenance tasks automated
01:26 < corn266> CheckYourSix   https://pastebin.com/4srv6u9r
01:27 < corn266> Sorry it took so long, all my plotting code is at work
01:27 < MillerBOSS> I watched a few video tutorials but a lot of it was trial and error. I started with only choosing the default classifications and just 10. Then after the first big synchronization I slowly added more like Office, 7, defender, etc and enabling all classifications as well
01:27 < admiralspark> ahhh
01:27 < CheckYourSix> corn266: So how exactly do I use this? Never dealt with Python outside of running it in CLI
01:27 < MillerBOSS> I can help if you need it. I am no pro but its fairly straight forward and not many options. I wish there was more options and all though.
01:28 < admiralspark> Technically it's not my job but I'm going to demo it and offer to take it over, since the sysad hasn't had enough time and I found today we're like 3 months out of date
01:28 < admiralspark> and half our machines ignore WSUS and go direct still
01:28 < corn266> change line 6 to the path of your file, change the 0 and 1 on lines 15 and 16 to the columns you want, change the labels and titles, and run `python whateveryounamedit.py`
01:28 < admiralspark> I may ping you on that
01:28 < MillerBOSS> Feel free.
01:28 < admiralspark> if I ever manage to get free time at home to jump on Discord :P
01:29 < corn266> CheckYourSix or just walk through it in cli
01:29 < MillerBOSS> ;)
01:29 < CheckYourSix> corn266: I'll copy some of this data to CSV and give it a try
01:31 < ServChan> where's schimity cryptic1
01:31 <@cryptic1> right here
01:32 < ServChan> what's good for dinner cryptic1
01:32 < ServChan> single man
01:32 < ServChan> check out adlist24.com yet?
01:33 < MillerBOSS> There isn't shit there the last time you posted that when I saw last week
01:33 <@cryptic1> instapot chicken with veggies and some sauce
01:33 < MillerBOSS> Are you looking for hookers ServChan?
01:33 < ServChan> mmm chicken
01:33 < ServChan> MillerBOSS escorts and I can find them
01:33 <@cryptic1> instapot makes dinner easy
01:34 < MillerBOSS> Escorts, eh
01:34 < ServChan> Stephen curry chicken with the sauce
01:34 <@cryptic1> butter chicken
01:35 < ServChan> sounds good already
01:35 < ServChan> no mayo?
01:35 < xamithan> go up your nose and pick yourself a winner
01:36 < ServChan> kind of sounds like go f* yourself and eat yourself dinner is a polite way
01:37 < xamithan> You don't know biz markie?
01:37 < ServChan> no
01:37 < ServChan> let me google face
01:38 < xamithan> Had this song called pickin boogers
01:38 < ServChan> nope never heard
01:38 < xamithan> Well it is 80s
01:38 < ServChan> im sure it went platnium
01:38 < corn266> CheckYourSix Take note this converts the data to integers, if you want floating points change the int(...) in lines 15 and 16 to float(...)
01:49 < CheckYourSix> corn266: What are all the dependencies for this?
01:51 < corn266> numpy and matplotlib
01:51 < corn266> pip install --user numpy matplotlib
01:53 <+NinjaStyle> its amazing what a shitty chair can do to your back
01:57 < eHAPPY> connectx-3 qsfp should work just fine with breakout 4x sfp to connectx-2 right?
01:57 < misspwn> biz markie does great beat boxing for kids
01:59 <+NinjaStyle> wut
01:59 <+NinjaStyle> i am sad and happy that it is only tuesday
01:59 < misspwn> NinjaStyle, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYFD_hyO-hY
02:00 < misspwn> he does biz's beat of the day, it's pretty cute
02:00 < CheckYourSix> corn266: How do I make one of these process a date? MM/DD/YYYY format
02:00 < CheckYourSix> Like for the X column
02:01 < rhqq> ewww american date
02:01 < rhqq> geez, they'll never learn
02:01 < CheckYourSix> It's the only real date
02:01 < rhqq> i'd fire you for that statement :P
02:01 < rhqq> https://xkcd.com/1179/
02:01 < CheckYourSix> Where are you from?
02:01 < CheckYourSix> 'MURICA!
02:02 < CheckYourSix> I can agree with xkcd at least. That date should be the universal standard
02:02 <+NinjaStyle> misspwn: whatd u make me do
02:02 <+NinjaStyle> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbCu_Wb3-Nk
02:02 < rhqq> so yeah, ewwwww american date
02:02 < rhqq> ;p
02:02 < misspwn> NinjaStyle, i love yo gabba gabba...
02:03 < corn266> CheckYourSix remove the int(...) in the line declaring the x variable
02:03 < corn266> line 15
02:06 <+NinjaStyle> jack black has moves
02:07 < CheckYourSix> corn266: _tkinter.TclError: no display name and no $DISPLAY environment variable
02:08 < corn266> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37604289/tkinter-tclerror-no-display-name-and-no-display-environment-variable
02:11 < corn266> CheckYourSix you might also be able to swap out the "plt.show()" with plt.savefig('/path/to/file/to/save.png')
02:12 < CheckYourSix> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'supTitle'
02:13 <+NinjaStyle> CheckYourSix: whacha plotting?
02:13 < corn266> suptitle
02:13 < corn266> sorry I'm used to camelcase
02:13 < CheckYourSix> Ah ok. The graph outputted
02:13 < CheckYourSix> NinjaStyle: Playing with some finance data
02:14 < CheckYourSix> Excel column graph is stopping at 50 data points >.<
02:16 < corn266> brb gonna go get struck by lightning to smoke a cigg
02:23 < admiralspark> CheckYourSix: have you poked around reddit at all? There's a few finance automation subs iirc
02:23 < admiralspark> and Quantopian has a nice API
02:23 < CheckYourSix> admiralspark: Not really.
02:25 < admiralspark> CheckYourSix: https://www.reddit.com/r/algotrading/
02:26 < CheckYourSix> I'll take a look
02:27 < admiralspark> dangit
02:27 < admiralspark> Weechat won't take ascii emojis
02:28 < precise> irssi > weechat
02:28 < MillerBOSS> lol that topic admiralspark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85lpWoESHUM
02:28 < MillerBOSS> From ##traders
02:28 < admiralspark> yeah yeah precise we get it you vape
02:29 < precise> Nano > Vi
02:29 < admiralspark> lol
02:29 < admiralspark> :)
02:29 < CheckYourSix> precise: gtfo
02:29 < MillerBOSS> Shoe me the money
02:29 < admiralspark> MillerBOSS: haha, I remember this
02:29 < precise> CheckYourSix: But I'm permanent
02:30 < corn266> MODELS AND BOTTLES
02:31 < admiralspark> HAHA IT RHYMES
02:31 < MillerBOSS> Yup
02:31 < admiralspark> man
02:31 < admiralspark> so when can I expect to hear back from you?
02:32 < MillerBOSS> This should be a suggested video on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLySXTIBS3c
02:39 < MillerBOSS> Anyone curious https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/1kiwfx/eli5_in_trading_places_1983_akroydmurphy_how_does/
02:40 < Jay-Ros> Morning everyone
02:40 < MillerBOSS> Hey Jay-Ros
02:41 < MillerBOSS> How goes it over there?
02:41 < Jay-Ros> Terrible - my overinflated excitement for Arctic Monkeys' new album has been crushed by a trashy tracklist
02:42 < Jay-Ros> it sounds like they've done a serious impression of Flight of the Conchords doing an impression of David Bowie if his influence was Radiohead
02:42 < MillerBOSS> Well it could be worse Jay-Ros right?
02:43 < Jay-Ros> It could. It's a fleeting emotional dip.
02:43 < Jay-Ros> How's your side of the ocean going Mr. Miller?
02:44 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Well boys. Finished off my student loans today. I'm officially debt free. And I'm on my 4th beer.
02:45 < Jay-Ros> SysAdminGoneCraZ: congratulations man. That's an awesome checkpoint to reach.
02:45 < Jay-Ros> You should be proud of yourself
02:45 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Jay-Ros: Thanks man
02:48 < MillerBOSS> Just fine and dandy. Sun going down now. Jay-Ros https://supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.millerboss.com/14-North-Parking-Lot-Outside-North-West-May-15-18_19-46-56-ss.png
02:49 < Jay-Ros> That little green car MillerBOSS, is cute as hell.
02:49 < MillerBOSS> I should be outside but I rather sit here and fuck off
02:49 < Jay-Ros> Looks like it'd have a 900cc engine
02:49 < MillerBOSS> Really? Its ugly
02:49 < MillerBOSS> I think its a Scion or something
02:49 < Jay-Ros> 0-60 in 3-5 business days
02:50 < Jay-Ros> It looks like the owner should be a 'fancy' skinny guy with a creme knit scarf
02:50 < Jay-Ros> I wouldn't be caught dead in it
02:50 < MillerBOSS> Not even close. A girl though
02:50 < Jay-Ros> My gf is pushing for me to buy a car... I've survived with just a bike for way too long
02:51 < MillerBOSS> And these https://www.cstatic-images.com/car-pictures/xl/USB60SCC021A0101.png are fugly. A box on wheels
02:51 < Jay-Ros> looking at saving up to buy a 2014-esque subaru impreza
02:51 < MillerBOSS> Not bad
02:51 < MillerBOSS> Fancy cars are not in my wheel house just yet
02:51 < Jay-Ros> that looks like a nissan cube
02:51 < rpifan> god i hate work
02:51 < MillerBOSS> Not until I am loaded rich muahahha
02:51 < rpifan> im so frustrated
02:51 < rpifan> i cant do shit
02:52 < Jay-Ros> MillerBOSS - scoobies like that go for around 12K in australia (we have high car tax prices)
02:52 < MillerBOSS> Oh wow
02:52 < MillerBOSS> I don't know how you guys and girls do it there
02:52 < Jay-Ros> High incomes dude, median single income is 50K
02:52 < MillerBOSS> Shit seems taxed sky high and or expensive or not available there
02:53 < MillerBOSS> 50k AUD?
02:53 < Jay-Ros> professional income is 80-100
02:53 < Jay-Ros> yeah
02:53 < CheckYourSix> What are taxes like in AUS?
02:53 < MillerBOSS> 50,000 Australian Dollar equals
02:53 < MillerBOSS> 37,373.40 US Dollar
02:53 < Jay-Ros> 32% on 90k threshold
02:53 < Jay-Ros> paycalculator.com.au
02:53 < MillerBOSS> Between 2015 and 2016, US median household income rose 3.2% from $57,230 to $59,039
02:54 < MillerBOSS> We may be taxed different than there though I wonder
02:54 < MillerBOSS> And varies state to state here
02:54 < MillerBOSS> Some states have no income tax for example
02:55 < Jay-Ros> pm'd some reference numbers :)
02:55 < CheckYourSix> Jay-Ros: So how do retirement accounts work over there? Is it entirely on employer contributions? Or can you contribute?
02:56 < Jay-Ros> CheckYourSix - you get base rate plus superannuation
02:56 < Jay-Ros> wihch is 9.something percent
02:56 < runath> how the fuck do i make windows stop opening all my goddamn programs from previous session on bootup
02:56 < Jay-Ros> you can contribute more as salary sacrifice (not taxed)
02:56 < sadbox> MillerBOSS: or hey you could live in CA
02:57 < sadbox> get dicked on taxes
02:57 < runath> sadbox: CA master place
02:57 < MillerBOSS> CA needs to be its own country and quit messing with the rest of the country :P
02:57 < MillerBOSS> runath 👉 What OS version
02:57 < runath> the rest of the country needs to stop being full of idiots
02:58 < MillerBOSS> I ever heard of that as a feature though in Windows
02:58 < runath> 1803 i think? newest
02:58 < runath> 17134.48
02:58 < runath> It is obnoxious as hell
02:58 < MillerBOSS> https://superuser.com/questions/1229963/windows-10-disable-reopening-programs-after-restart-startup
02:58 < Jay-Ros> I've had my PC fail and fail and fail on the latest windows updates
02:58 < MillerBOSS> Maybe that? Are signing into Windows with a Microsoft account?
02:59 < Jay-Ros> I've had bigger fish to fry thoug
02:59 < MillerBOSS> http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/stop-auto-reopen-programs-restart-windows-10/
02:59 < MillerBOSS> Old behavior: When you shut down your PC, all apps are closed
02:59 < MillerBOSS> After reboot/restart, you have to re-open any app you’d like to use
02:59 < MillerBOSS> New behavior: When shutting down your PC, any open apps are “bookmarked” (for lack of a better word)
02:59 < MillerBOSS> After reboot/restart, these apps will re-open automatically
02:59 < MillerBOSS> Yucky
03:00 < MillerBOSS> Interesting number Jay-Ros from PM. I thought about moving to New Zealand a time or two and find work there but I don'tknow
03:00 < MillerBOSS> numbers*
03:00 < Runath_> That worked, fucking thank god
03:00 < CheckYourSix> sadbox: CA taxes are out of control
03:00 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> MillerBOSS: That capture is from your office??
03:01 < MillerBOSS> Great Runath_
03:01 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> MillerBOSS: Why aren't you home!?
03:01 < Runath_> Only solution that came up for me was to uncheck "Turn on fast startup" from power menu
03:01 < MillerBOSS> SysAdminGoneCraZ 👉 I get into work usually 10am or later. Today I got in a 1 pm
03:01 < Runath_> right here
03:01 < Runath_> http://puu.sh/AmXcb/1cf1e8142d.png
03:01 < admiralspark> MillerBOSS: yeah, trust me, Outlook and Chrome opening at the same time even kills my workstation
03:01 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> MillerBOSS: Ahh.
03:01 < MillerBOSS> I usually dick off some of the day and go full bore int he evening when no one is here. Jam out to the tunes etc SysAdminGoneCraZ
03:02 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> That's whats up
03:02 < MillerBOSS> I have no life really
03:02 < Runath_> admiralspark: i just replaced my workstation's hdd to an ssd at the office
03:02 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> lol
03:02 < MillerBOSS> And I am fine with that. :D
03:02 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Me too! :D
03:02 < Runath_> boss doesnt know about it
03:03 < MillerBOSS> So I have had one user tell me Excel opens when she logs in into the machine.
03:03 < MillerBOSS> I wonder if this is the cause
03:03 < Runath_> grabbed the drive out of a system that would've gone to the trash anyway lol feels so much better
03:03 < Runath_> yeah definitely
03:03 < admiralspark> Runath_: I've got an i7, 16gb ram, m2 ssd. It's not a slow machine, I just have a shit ton of chrome tabs and email
03:03 < Runath_> that shit opens literally everything
03:03 < MillerBOSS> Yeah admiralspark I run a Mac myself and Chrome can be a hog for sure
03:03 < admiralspark|afk> ahhh
03:03 < admiralspark|afk> interesting
03:04 < admiralspark|afk> well
03:04 < MillerBOSS> That new feature seams real dumb though am I right?
03:04 < admiralspark|afk> leaving work
03:04 < admiralspark|afk> bbl
03:04 < admiralspark|afk> it does haha
03:04 < Runath_> i had task manager, chrome (with all tabs), obs, steam, precisionx, and pycharm all fucking open at once
03:04 < Runath_> makes me want to strangle whatever pos put that into the update
03:04 < MillerBOSS> >If you want to start with no apps open (other than those set to auto-start via Task Manager/Start), you’ll need to ensure all apps are closed before shutting down or restarting the PC.
03:04 < MillerBOSS> This is why I have all users log out after they leave their desk and all machines are rebooted at 5 am
03:05 < Runath_> Yeah exactly, as it should be
03:05 < MillerBOSS> And for other various reasons
03:05 < MillerBOSS> macOS does this but give you an option when you reboot
03:05 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> MillerBOSS: That's odd. did you do the Sign-in Options? Turning off Auto reopen apps?
03:05 < precise> Anyone know a good way to mirror SMS received on an Android phone to a linux desktop? And send as well? Preferabbly without 3rd party services.
03:05 <+NinjaStyle> signal
03:05 < MillerBOSS> Google Voice?
03:06 < corn266> NinjaStyle ++
03:06 <+NinjaStyle> not sms tho
03:06 < MillerBOSS> Regarding what SysAdminGoneCraZ?
03:06 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> MillerBOSS: User excel issue
03:06 < precise> NinjaStyle: I was going to say, I was hoping something that could integrate with SMS. I do like Signal though. And MillerBOSS, Google Voice requires a new number doesn't it? Also, Google... I thought you knew me :P
03:06 < MillerBOSS> I didn't change any settings but maybe the user did?
03:07 < MillerBOSS> You can port a number to Google Voice precise
03:07 <+NinjaStyle> precise: i mean it does integrate with sms
03:07 <+NinjaStyle> but only on the device itself afaik
03:07 <+NinjaStyle> i dont think it will then convery your sms to a signal message
03:07 <+NinjaStyle> convert*
03:07 < MillerBOSS> I know you said no 3rd party service but Leo on Twit talks about pushbullet often doing just this precise https://help.pushbullet.com/articles/how-do-i-send-text-messages-from-my-computer/
03:08 < sadbox> precise: I know this is not what you want, but imessages can do texting across devices
03:08 < precise> MillerBOSS: Looking at it now, thanks :)
03:08 < precise> sadbox: I know, but Android... :P
03:08 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> MillerBOSS: This nonsense right here: https://imgur.com/a/w4PR2Dj
03:08 < sadbox> precise: I would just use signal if you can
03:08 < Runath_> is imessage usable on a crackintosh?
03:08 < Runath_> or whatever fake osx is called
03:08 < sadbox> precise: or maybe whatsapp depending on what the people you know use
03:09 < precise> Not a fan of whatsup
03:09 < precise> SMS already exists, why reinvent the whell?
03:09 < precise> *wheel
03:09 <+NinjaStyle> sms isnt encrypted
03:09 < MillerBOSS> This is exactly why I only use Google Voice. To send from desktop or Wi-Fi. I live in an area that has spotty cell coverage back when we went to 2G and 3G. So when I was out in the boonies I would miss phone calls and had no idea anyone called but Google Voice would tell me I had a miss call etc when I got back to service and SMS would work at a bar in the boonies if they had Wi-Fi etc
03:09 < Runath_> whatsapp isn't an sms competitor
03:10 < MillerBOSS> What doe stat do SysAdminGoneCraZ is that new?
03:10 < sadbox> precise: it's pretty popular amongst people who swap sims a shitload, etc, way more common outside 1st world countries
03:10 < Runath_> ^
03:10 < sadbox> a lot of the shit plans there don't have sms that's unlimited
03:10 < MillerBOSS> iMessage works on a hackintosh if that is what you mean Runath_
03:10 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> MillerBOSS: Nah, it's been there a while. But it does exactly what it says. Reopens apps that you didn't properly shut down on the next bootup/restart.
03:10 < mal_will> Also popular is countries trying to subvert the government
03:10 < mal_will> 's authority
03:10 < Runath_> Interesting, i'll have to look into making a vm for it or using a spare pc for that
03:11 < sadbox> precise: it also does group chats and stuff
03:11 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> MillerBOSS: If you turn it OFF, it shutsdown/restarts cold.
03:11 < Runath_> downside to having a second job at a retailer: literally all my coworkers have iphones
03:11 <+NinjaStyle> like telegram
03:11 < precise> NinjaStyle: I'm aware, but I have pre-existing conversations and don't feel like making friends migrate to said platforms.
03:11 < Runath_> telegram is nice
03:11 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> MillerBOSS: If you leave it ON, it's a semi-warm bootup
03:11 < MillerBOSS> OK, so I wonder if there is a GPO for this
03:11 <+NinjaStyle> precise: your friends should switch to signal anyway
03:11 < MillerBOSS> Is it off by default?
03:11 < precise> I'm generally warey of free services that offer a communications platform
03:12 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> MillerBOSS: No, it's ON by defualt.
03:12 < precise> NinjaStyle: True
03:12 < MillerBOSS> Oh really now, SysAdminGoneCraZ, Interesting
03:12 < sadbox> Runath_: I would never use telegram in a world where signal exists
03:12 < Runath_> I haven't given signal a try, how is it on features? Is there a dark mode?
03:12 <+NinjaStyle> yes
03:13 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> MillerBOSS: IDK if there's a GPO for it. I normally shut it off when I see it. But it's under SETTINGS>ACCOUNTS>SIGN-IN OPTIONS > All the way at the bottom under PRIVACY.
03:13 < mal_will> Telegram ui is weird
03:13 < mal_will> But it's features are dope
03:14 < Runath_> telegram x has a better UI than telegram mal_will
03:14 < Runath_> it's an official redesign
03:14 < MillerBOSS> Thanks SysAdminGoneCraZ I will check it out here shortly.
03:14 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> MillerBOSS: Word.
03:15 < MillerBOSS> up
03:15 < precise> Tampa bout to come back and woop the caps for 4 games
03:15 < mal_will> Woah, I didn't even see that as an option in the app store
03:16 < mal_will> Telegram x that is
03:16 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> precise: Man, what are you smoking?! Tampa aint got nothing for those 4 games.
03:16 < sadbox> also afaik telegram isn't e2e by default
03:16 < sadbox> and last time I looked the crypto story was a lil' sketchier than signal / whatsapp / allo / whatever is using the signal protocol
03:17 < precise> SysAdminGoneCraZ: They did it last time they were 2 down in a 7 game series against the caps
03:17 < precise> And its now 3-0 Tampa
03:17 < precise> So...
03:17 < precise> ;)
03:17 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> OIh man
03:17 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Oh man*
03:17  * precise is smoking the good stuff
03:17 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> lol
03:17 < sadbox> also IIRC group chats don't support encryption on telegram
03:17 < precise> Well timed goal too
03:18 < precise> sadbox: This is correct IIRC
03:18 < precise> Holtby has no chance on that last goal
03:18 < precise> Was on the other side of the crease
03:18 < precise> fite fite fite
03:19 < sadbox> Runath_: tl;dr use signal, or whatsapp
03:19 < precise> SysAdminGoneCraZ: I miss the known of if Marchand is gonna lick someone during this scrum
03:19 < precise> lol Tom Wilson is mad
03:19 < precise> hahaha
03:19 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> lolol
03:19 < precise> cryaboutit
03:20 < precise> Welcome to #reddit-hockeyadmin!
03:20 < precise> Topic is GO KNIGHTS! GO JETS! Cheering for Caps gets parmabant.
03:20 < Runath_> wait a minute
03:20 < Runath_> am i getting the rdp issue everyone's been talking about
03:21 < Runath_> just got this while connecting to my server for the first time in like 3 months lol http://puu.sh/AmXHc/531cc0df32.png
03:21 <+NinjaStyle> time to update
03:21 < Runath_> oke
03:24 <+NinjaStyle> man libre office is garbage
03:25 < JollyRgrs> Runath_: i think so
03:26 < gnupluslinux> libre office is hot garbage indeed
03:26 < sir_iw> so had to swich my dns from cloudflare back to google, they be having issues
03:26 < gnupluslinux> especially if you need to work with office files and vice versa
03:27 < gnupluslinux> 1.1.1.1 to 8.8.8.8 sir_iw ? whats up, going fine for me
03:27 < sir_iw> today seems to be judicialwatch isnt resolving
03:27 < sir_iw> yesterday was archive.is
03:28 < gnupluslinux> resolves fine for me
03:28 < sir_iw> yeah, not for me, even trying direct queries via nslookup
03:28 < sir_iw> but then, cloudflare is load balanced, could be my region
03:28 < xamithan> Stop using AT&T
03:29 < gnupluslinux> https://hastebin.com/aqutasugoj
03:29 < gnupluslinux> prob your region
03:29 < mal_will> Tru about telegram sadbox
03:29 < sir_iw> PNW
03:29 < mal_will> It also allows screenshots
03:29 < gnupluslinux> im in socal
03:29 < rpifan> nice
03:29 < sir_iw> yeah, heard people on discord complaining about it, was working on my aws and work network
03:29 < rpifan> hows the cocaine
03:30 < gnupluslinux> maybe localized outages?
03:30 < gnupluslinux> .bofh
03:30 < gnupluslinux> free and flowing rpifan
03:30 < precise> SysAdminGoneCraZ: You gonna buy me a drink if Tampa comes back and wins the next 4?
03:30 < rpifan> nice
03:30 < precise> ;)
03:30 < sir_iw> east coast legal weed
03:30 < rpifan> u done any lately
03:30 < gnupluslinux> no
03:30 < MillerBOSS> Also https://judicialwatch.com/ does not have a SNU for their .com which is a .org
03:30 < MillerBOSS> SNI
03:30 < sir_iw> nope, just west coast
03:30 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> precise: Damn right I will
03:31 < precise> :D
03:31 < gnupluslinux> death by SNU SNU
03:31 < precise> I don't drink beer SysAdminGoneCraZ
03:31 < precise> SysAdminGoneCraZ: I like my liquor
03:31 < MillerBOSS> So then you get do not pass go error
03:31 < precise> ;)
03:31 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> precise: lol
03:31 < precise> Wow
03:31 < precise> Nice goal
03:31 < precise> SysAdminGoneCraZ: You see that?
03:31 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> precise: Nah, I'm not watching it.
03:31 < precise> ...
03:32  * precise sighs
03:32 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Sorry :(
03:32 < precise> Anyone watching Wash V Tampa?
03:32 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> But I'm cheering with you!
03:32 < precise> I take my Jack straight SysAdminGoneCraZ
03:32 < precise> FYI
03:32 < gnupluslinux> i'll wash your tampa precise
03:32 < precise> wo..wo..wot
03:32 < gnupluslinux> u hurd me
03:32 < gnupluslinux> gnu hurd me
03:32 < precise> u hurt me
03:41 < precise> Damn, this game is excite
03:42 < precise> ^ Doesn't want to buy me a drink
03:53 < MillerBOSS> Call me now
03:53 < MillerBOSS> Miss Cleo
03:55 < MillerBOSS> Whats the value of a poor man with a million dollar idea?
03:57 < Holo> Death
03:57 < MillerBOSS> OK thanks for your answer, Holo, very thoughtful. Next
03:58 < Holo> Rich man gets your idea
03:58 < Holo> Kills you via hit man
03:58 < Holo> Death
03:59 < xamithan> Nah,  he just patents it before you and buries you in legal fees until you go bankrupt and sell it to them
03:59 < MillerBOSS> Lol reminds me of the beach/ocean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb0W0lHCVQA
03:59 < Holo> But he’s too poor to do that
03:59 < MillerBOSS> Correct
04:11 < PlatonicForms> SUP CUCKS
04:12 < enix> anyone here do 3d printing?
04:12 < enix> as a hobby
04:12 < catbeard> 3d cucking
04:13 < enix> Struggling to decide what to buy
04:13 < enix> The worst part is; guides ask "what do you want to print" and I freeze up because I dont have a specific goal
04:14 < enix> I want to start out on figurines to get the jist of it, then go from there. I keep saying "I wish I had a 3D printer for ..." but I can never remember why i say that lmfao
04:15 < enix> raspberry pi case is on the top of my list
04:23 < nohusuro> man, a UPS we bought 4 years ago for $1700 is now $2350 at the cheapest :S
04:25 < MillerBOSS> Who is the vendor nohusuro?
04:25 < MillerBOSS> Are batteries costing more, I wonder?
04:26 < nohusuro> MillerBOSS: Eaton
04:26 < xamithan> Musk is buying up all the batteriesss
04:26 < nohusuro> they are sealed lead acid
04:26 < MillerBOSS> Oh never heard of that
04:26 < nohusuro> not lithium
04:27 < nohusuro> 2013 - $1220 each, 2014, $1700 each, 2018 - $2400 each
04:27 < nohusuro> same model and everything
04:27 < nohusuro> that's a hell of a lot of inflation
04:27 < xamithan> They were trying to increase by 2% but messed up and put 20% ?
04:28 < xamithan> Nah thats 40%
04:37 < MadCamel> eh that happens. the batteries are probably a standard size and can be sourced from elsewhere much cheaper if your environment allows that
04:37 < BytesAndCoffee> holy fuck my brain hasn't been in a state where it can program for a while, and i suddenly was just able to bang out the bare-bones basics for a project i've been mulling over for a while
04:38 < nohusuro> MadCamel: I'm not after batteries, I'm after a new unit
04:38 < MadCamel> congrats!
04:38 < BytesAndCoffee> https://i.imgur.com/IC1fZXw.jpg
04:38 < MadCamel> Yeah I could use a new unit as well, mine's getting pretty old.. badum-tss.
04:39 < enix> whats the idea
04:39 < enix> ide
04:39 < MadCamel> what are you bridging irc to?
04:39 < BytesAndCoffee> enix: pycharm community
04:39 < enix> thanks
04:39 < BytesAndCoffee> MadCamel: not sure yet, maybe telegram
04:39 < enix> Does it actually offer anything that multiple terminal windows cant?
04:39 < MadCamel> ah, nice.
04:39 < BytesAndCoffee> if i can figure out a way to make a private bot
04:39 < enix> Not being a dick, just asking
04:39 < precise> dick
04:40 < BytesAndCoffee> enix: git integration, super-intelligent code hinting and linting
04:40 < BytesAndCoffee> etc
04:40 < enix> ahk
04:40 < BytesAndCoffee> its from jetbrains
04:41 < BytesAndCoffee> i mean, vim is great and all
04:41 < enix> be careful what you say next
04:41 < BytesAndCoffee> but minimalism sometimes just...gets in the way
04:41  * enix bites lip
04:41 < MadCamel> I just code with cat >file.py, works great.
04:42 < enix> we are not going to start another one of these discussions
04:42 < gnupluslinux> what the fuck ?
04:42  * precise tunes in
04:42 < gnupluslinux> are we... are we... doing that tonight
04:42 < precise> wot
04:42 < enix> I SAID WE ARE NOT GETTING STARTED ON THIS AGAIN
04:42 < BytesAndCoffee> sometimes i want an env that handles the extra stuff and lets me code
04:42 < precise> oh hai
04:42 < BytesAndCoffee> enix: you brought this on yourself
04:42 < enix> precise: go back to the hole from whence you came
04:42  * precise whispers Nano into the channel
04:42 < enix> BEGONE FOUL DEMON
04:42 < precise> not a chance thot
04:43 < enix> So 3D printers guys
04:43 < enix> Any recommendations for cheapies?
04:43 < BytesAndCoffee> you asked why im using this instead of a text editor
04:43 < precise> Nano > 3D Printers
04:43 < gnupluslinux> precise, is the biggest thot of all
04:43 < enix> Want to spend less than $400 aud preferably
04:43 < precise> gnupluslinux: yes
04:43 < precise> Nano is free
04:43 < gnupluslinux> enix, how's things in upside down
04:43 < precise> ok im done
04:43 < gnupluslinux> pm still suck?
04:43 <@killdash9> enix: buy a Prusa and be done with it
04:43 < BytesAndCoffee> enix: bees and a hollow mould of what you want
04:43 < enix> gnupluslinux: pardon?
04:43 < BytesAndCoffee> wait a while, beeswax 3d print
04:43 < gnupluslinux> enix, does your prime minister or whatever his damn title still suck
04:43 < MadCamel> no joke I learned to program perl using 'ed', the line editor, because my terminal was too dumb to have arrow keys. Wasn't the 1970's either, I was just poor lol. Point is you can be effective using any tool you choose
04:44 < enix> killdash9: is that a 3d printed 3d printer
04:44 < precise> MadCamel: Even vi... somehow
04:44 < ekaj`> waddup my nigga
04:44 <@killdash9> enix: yeah. They still insist on holding true to their roots and 3d print the parts they can
04:44 < gnupluslinux> precise, oh yeah did i tell you? was in a box the other day with no text editor. had to change a config with fucking cat, grep, and sed like a damn animal
04:44 < enix> that's mad
04:45 < enix> So expensive though
04:45 < precise> s/animal/god
04:45 < enix> This is a gift from my parents/grandparents for my birthday, want to cap it at max $400
04:45 < enix> AUD too unfortunately
04:45 < gnupluslinux> enix, no joke and not sure if you have them in aus but home depot has some pretty decent 3d printers from time to time for cheap
04:45 < precise> wait
04:45 < precise> really?
04:45 < gnupluslinux> yeah
04:45 < precise> Huh
04:46 < enix> gnupluslinux: unfortunately no. Australia is throttled as fuck
04:46 < gnupluslinux> lady in accounting got one from HD i think 2 christmases ago? for like $300 or somthing
04:46 < gnupluslinux> just loads up on spools at microcenter and prints all kinds of shit to give out
04:46 < gnupluslinux> has fun with it, her son even uses it for his projects
04:47 < MadCamel> hard part is figuring out how to model your own parts, yeesh
04:47 < gnupluslinux> i think she just grabs stuff from thingaverse and mods them
04:48 < enix> yeah that's the best way to go
04:48 < gnupluslinux> props to her all the same, i just think its cool that she's still willing to do this stuff at her age since her kid's older than i am
04:48 < enix> even if you were to just clone connectors and attach to your projects
04:48 < enix> Any specs I hsould be looking out for
04:48 < enix> like print resolution or anything
04:49 < gnupluslinux> on the cheap you're probably looking at an extruder i would think vs a resin laser deal
04:49 < enix> I was thinking of a barebones, plastic jizzing open air printer
04:50 < gnupluslinux> probably what you're gonna get on the cheap
04:50 < gnupluslinux> might even want to look into making your own?
04:51 < enix> I dont mind some DIY
04:51 < enix> btw fuck parsnip
04:51 < enix> but yeah I just dont know 'whats good'
04:51 < Runath_> why can i rdp into my server on x.x.2.100 but can't ping my x.x.1.50 pc from that same server
04:51 < gnupluslinux> there's always r/additive
04:51 < enix> Runath_: different subnet
04:52 < enix> Runath_: routing rules dont permit icmp
04:52 < gnupluslinux> routing, firewall
04:52 < Runath_> ah okay i'll fix that then
04:52 < Runath_> thanks
04:52 < enix> same same
04:52 < enix> all g
04:52 < MadCamel> fire up dem googelz. Another place to check is gearbest/banggood/aliexpress/china-etc. It's not *all* crap, just most of it. Find enough legit good reviews online or forums full of people who like that particular gadget..
04:52 < enix> gnupluslinux: you saying post up in there?
04:53 < enix> MadCamel: yeah i'm struggling with that due to all the competing opinions
04:53 < gnupluslinux> mostly crap, find a niche forum and see what they've bought from there
04:53 < Runath_> i built a couple more mining pcs for my boss recently :)
04:53 < enix> especially consdering this is all new for me
04:53 < gnupluslinux> banggood coordinates with BLF from time to time
04:53 < Runath_> new job when
04:53 < enix> Runath_: oooo fun. linux or windows
04:53 < gnupluslinux> enix, there might be a sidebar wiki type deal, maybe check that
04:54 < Sousapro> I buy IEMs on AliExpress on a regular basis lol
04:54 < ekaj`> f
04:54 < Runath_> windows 7 lmao its all so cost inefficient
04:54 < enix> gnupluslinux: yeah im reading through
04:54 < enix> ekaj`: WHATS UP BRO
04:54 < enix> ekaj`: WHERE THE BLOODY HELL HAVE YOU BEEN MATEY
04:54 < gnupluslinux> Sousapro, yeah but you dont buy random ass ones do you? probably read some reviews first?
04:55 < Sousapro> Yeah lol
04:56 < gnupluslinux> on the banggood note, BLF did a mini thrower with them a couple months back
04:56 < gnupluslinux> BLF/Kronos version is fine, the astrolux remake did some funky shit and my half click takes forever to register
04:56 < enix> huh
04:56 < Runath_> i should probably take a networking class, cause whenever i log into my router i just stare at everything thinking "well shit" none of the things i think would fix my issue are clickable"
04:56 < gnupluslinux> Runath_, def get comfortable with cli
04:57 < gnupluslinux> lots of options on cli that they dont transfer to gui
05:11 < Runath_> i said fuck learning for now, and just got out a switch
05:12 < enix> what the fuck is wood element
05:12 < enix> cli not that hard; ebay/craigslist/gumtree/greysonline yourself an older model and play
05:14 < enix> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BNNK5VS/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?pd_rd_i=B018GZBC3Y&pd_rd_wg=0tnpY&pd_rd_r=N6C9BZ7HYPVN0FA4JETF&pd_rd_w=VN14m&th=1
05:15 < enix> what you lads and ladies think
05:15 < Casteil> monoprice makes decent stuff
05:15 < Casteil> I have the original version of the MP select mini
05:15 < Casteil> worked pretty damn good out of the box, even better with a little optimization/tweaking
05:15 < enix> Is the build deck ever an issue?
05:16 < enix> Dimension wise or other
05:16  * MillerBOSS is listening to Dierks Bentley — Up On the Ridge, from the album Up On the Ridge
05:16 < Casteil> I put a mirror on it for glass printing
05:16 < enix> what
05:16 < Casteil> printing on a heated glass bed is the only way to go as far as I'm concerned
05:16 < enix> You like... print glass or
05:16 < Casteil> no, print on the glass
05:16 < enix> why do you print onto glass
05:17 < Casteil> PLA sticks well to a heated glass bed, and once the heat is removed, the print EASILY pops off the bed
05:17 < enix> wow that's a fantstic tip thank you
05:17 < enix> I'll hit you up
05:17 < enix> like... when i need to go down that route
05:18 < Casteil> I started out printing on masking tape
05:18 < Casteil> removing anything with a lot of surface area was a bitch
05:18 < enix> yeah that's what we did at my old job
05:18 < enix> we had a 3d printer in the office for a bit of fun because we all kind of lived at the office, and we just used tape on the bed
05:19 < Casteil> yep, that can be a downright exercise in frustration
05:20 < enix> I literally just want to print hundreds of these https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:13588
05:20 < enix> Then peg them at people walking down the street while I hide behind bushes or something
05:20 < Casteil> blows my mind how easy prints are to remove with a glass bed and just letting the bed cool back down
05:20 < enix> http://www.shortboxpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Screen-Shot-2012-09-22-at-9.44.42-PM.png
05:20 < enix> kinda like these bad boys
05:20 < Casteil> at most something like a coaster might need a single little tap to dislodge
05:24 < enix> jesus my girlfriend is the biggest stick in the mud sometimes
05:24 < `ekaj`> got this geiger counter for $15 at an auction: https://imgur.com/a/yRzrJZi
05:25 < enix> Showed her the 3d printer and she's like "why would you want one?"
05:28 < Casteil> "so I can print you a dildo to keep you company after I throw you out on your ass"
05:28 < Casteil> :P
05:29 < enix> DRONE PARTS
05:29 < enix> That was what I was trying to think of
05:29 < enix> Far out
05:30 < enix> Took me ages to think of 'why do i need a 3d printer'
05:30 < gnupluslinux> maybe that's a sign you need a better reason lol
05:30 < enix> reasons will follow
05:30 < Casteil> I used mine a lot initially
05:30 < gnupluslinux> thats what we always say
05:30 < Casteil> haven't printed anything since before I bought my house
05:30  * gnupluslinux continues ignoring his pile collecting dust
05:31 < enix> hahaha
05:31 < enix> I'd rather have it and not use it very often
05:31 < enix> Is 3D pritning meant to be  super complicated or something? All my IRL peeps are shocked I want one
05:31 < Casteil> it's not *meant* to be but it's not simple/easy
05:32 < enix> yeah I imagine it's more fiddly
05:32 < enix> Learning all the calibrations and stuff
05:32 < `ekaj`> how much you tryna pay for one
05:32 < enix> 300-400
05:33 < enix> aud
05:33 < enix> that geiger counter is pretty cool. have you been surprised at how radioactive things are?
05:34 < `ekaj`> I don't have batteries for it.. If I go get one I'll try it out, I'm putting it on eBay atm lol
05:34 < enix> what are the yellow rod things
05:35 < `ekaj`> dosimeters, apparently they measure exposure to ionizing radiation
05:35 < `ekaj`> the little picture with the circle and numbers in it are what you see when you hold it up to a light
05:36 < enix> http://www.civildefensemuseum.com/cdmuseum2/radkits/dose.html
05:36 < enix> yeah that's pretty awesome
05:36 < `ekaj`> fuck i didn't realize that's where it went
05:37 < `ekaj`> I need to get a battery and try this thing lol
05:38 < enix> hahaha
05:38 < catbeard> man, i stepped forward a few centuries with this new phone
05:38 < enix> catbeard:
05:38 < enix> ?
05:38 < `ekaj`> I better get to bed.. we have our monthly software updates tomorrow
05:38 < gnupluslinux> nokia to a razor?
05:38 < `ekaj`> need to be at work in 6-7 hrs
05:38 < catbeard> samsung to an HTC
05:38 < gnupluslinux> pffft
05:39 < catbeard> i went up at least 4 android versions
05:39 < catbeard> 4.0 to 8.0 lol
05:39  * gnupluslinux continues using his brick to weigh down his matrix dot paper
05:39 < gnupluslinux> lol fucking catbeard
05:39 < gnupluslinux> refused to replace for a few years?
05:39 < catbeard> ya
05:40 < gnupluslinux> i probably have an s4 around here on 4.4 still
05:40 < gnupluslinux> pretty sure its still usable
05:40 < gnupluslinux> old phone die or just wanted to get the htc?
05:40 < catbeard> Needed new phone
05:41 < enix> iphone x is pretty decent
05:41 < catbeard> Only 1000 smackeroos
05:44 < enix> 1800 aud
05:44 < enix> and tbh; the glass they've used is SHIT
05:44 < enix> already have scratches all over it from general use
05:45 < gnupluslinux> i dont think i'd ever shell out 1k for a phone
05:45 < gnupluslinux> already questioned spending 400
05:47 < Anaphylaxis> oh shit i just thought of a new nick
05:47 < Anaphylaxis> "meandgnu"
05:47 < Anaphylaxis> thx @gnupluslinux
05:47 < gnupluslinux> better take it cause im tempted to ninja that in like 30s
05:48 < Anaphylaxis> :hmm:
05:49 < gnupluslinux> tbh that reminds me of that me&u song
06:02 < Jay-Ros> gnu and me... used to be together... everyday together... alwayyyyysssss
06:02 < Sousapro> I really have liked my essential phone
06:02 < Sousapro> For the money, it's been great
06:11 < catbeard> omg
06:12 < catbeard> services killed kinny
06:12 < catbeard> those bastards!
06:30 < nojeffrey> Anyway these days to allow a user to install their own fonts without giving local admin?
06:31 < Anaphylaxis> give them permission to C:\Windows\System32\fonts ?
06:31 < nojeffrey> The folder is special
06:32 < nojeffrey> it doesnt have a security tab, under properties
06:32 < Anaphylaxis> ah shit
06:32 < Anaphylaxis> delete it then
06:34 < Cronus> Scheduled service running elevated privledges that runs a script every 5 minutes that takes all fonts dropped in folder X and installs them. Tis what I did for my graphics guy.
06:34 < Cronus> per reddit
06:34 < MillerBOSS> Not a bad idea
06:35 < nojeffrey> Let me try to find that post
06:35 < MillerBOSS> Can fonts be malicious?
06:35 < Cronus> https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/7wgzp6/allowing_a_user_to_install_fonts_without_having/du0bk6t/
06:35 < Cronus> or push it out via gpo globally
06:36 < Cronus> fyi fonts folder use cli to set the permissions
06:37 < nojeffrey> there was a critical vuln, but it wasn't a font, more a font dll for rendering or something
06:38 < nojeffrey> Cronus so I could potentially change permissions on this folder if I can figure out the CLI stuff?
06:39 < Cronus> i would assume so
06:39 < Cronus> icacls  is the cli
06:40 < nojeffrey> ta
06:41 < torquellini> ylor swift is the greatest woman on earth
06:41 < nojeffrey> https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com.au/2015/07/one-font-vulnerability-to-rule-them-all.html
06:47 < MillerBOSS> Thanks nohusuro
06:47 < MillerBOSS> Hi nohusuro, wrong nick. :P
06:47 < MillerBOSS> nojeffrey ^
06:48 < MillerBOSS> ;)
06:52 < MillerBOSS> Why hasn't RAM prices come down yet?
06:56 < togen> price fixing
07:00 < ned0> good god they're terrible
07:01 < ned0> ddr3 @ almost double what I paid in 2015
07:08 < enix> i just unced with the wrong username/pass
07:08 < enix> how do I like... remove that
07:08 < enix> it's not in credential manager
07:11 <+NinjaStyle> Net use /delete
07:11 < enix> thanks
07:18 < MillerBOSS> Wow this is neat https://www.amazon.com/Depstech-Endoscope-Inspection-Megapixels-Smartphone/dp/B01MYTHWK4/
07:20 < m4221> Who is here
07:20 < m4221> ?
07:22 < Bercik> everone, they are just very very silent
07:23  * ottomite creeps 
07:25 < nojeffrey> Ive managed to allow a non admin user to write fonts to this directory, but it still doesn't install them, that 5min script now looks like the way to go
07:38 < xe0n> gpo..
07:43 < nojeffrey> Apparently they try out fonts all the time, and don't want to bother use couple times a week
07:59 < xe0n> sure
08:03 < Jay-Ros> Workmate installed a new UPS
08:03 < Jay-Ros> ...knocked out the office network
08:03 < Jay-Ros> not bad for his 8th day
08:03 < MillerBOSS> How does that happen?
08:04 < Jay-Ros> Probably jiggled a cable
08:04 < MillerBOSS> Yikes
08:04 < Jay-Ros> routers down and up. No idea; I haven't got to physical cabling in the comms room yet
08:04 < nojeffrey> Would some things need to be unplugged to be plugged in to new UPS
08:05 < Jay-Ros> nojeffrey - yeah, but he hadn't switched over the connector for the PDU into the bypass yet
08:05 < Jay-Ros> and we've got redundancy on everything, so I'm impressed.
08:06 < Jay-Ros> so many things... it's exhaustingly educational
08:07 < MillerBOSS> educational for sure. Look at the positive. :)
08:07 < nojeffrey> real life chaos monkey
08:07 < MillerBOSS> lol
08:31 < prasket> Anyone else noticed slowness on internet today, especially on initial page loads?
08:31 < MillerBOSS> Check your DNS latency prasket
08:31 < Bercik> the ENTIRE internets?
08:31 < MillerBOSS> All of it
08:33 < prasket> I mean I’ve been hitting various sites popular and not all day on work and home and mobile. Has seen slower than normal. OK ill check that @MillerBOSS
08:34 < MillerBOSS> Usually "slow initial page loads" is DNS
08:34 < prasket> A coworker also mentioned it.
08:34 < MillerBOSS> And not being sarcastic. :)
08:36 < prasket> that makes sense. Cant seem to find a free way to test from my mobile. Ill have to go grab my notebook.
08:37 < MillerBOSS> prasket 👉 Also use something like Chrome Dev Tools like this to see timing https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Recording-2018-05-16-01-36-24-tE.mp4
08:38 < MillerBOSS> And if it was me change DNS to 8.8.8.8 or 1.1.1.1 or 9.9.9.9 for process of elimination
08:39 < MillerBOSS> But if you are on your mobile device on cellular only, not Wi-Fi, then I would call that an isolated issue for the mobile device
08:39 < MillerBOSS> Run a ping -t google.com
08:39 < prasket> I am using opendns public at home currently, not sure what the office is using.
08:39 < MillerBOSS> To check for dropped packets
08:40 < MillerBOSS> Just have to go through process of elimination, right?
08:40 < Bercik> better use mtr for dropped packets
08:41 < Bercik> you can see stats for each hop
08:44 < MillerBOSS> Interesting. I wonder if Ping Plotter does the same in the backend
08:52 < prasket> TIL about MTR :) thanks @Bercik
09:23 < enix> omg is it time to finish up at this job yet
09:23 < voidstar> soml
10:16 < Reverend> morning nerds!
10:17 < Bercik> howdy
10:28 < plop> morning
10:28 < Tzunamii> Morning
11:33 < plop> so, everybody working?
11:33 < plop> `bofh
12:44 < bomb> more like, sleeeeeeeping
13:07 < giant_it_burrit> https://pca.st/S2wl#t=1997 Osama bin laden watched knitting videos. Listen here
13:26 < td34> hey all
13:27 < td34> someone was telling me earlier that SMTP is not authenticated? is that the case ? I was always under the impression that you need to provide authentication to send an email. This seems to validate that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMTP_Authentication
13:30 < sp00ky> Good morning all
13:32 < td34> hello
13:36 < td34> anyone know about authenticated smtp?
13:53 < Casteil> https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/grd/d/toro-timemaster-mower/6590297540.html < Man I'm thinking of buying and fixing that.. those things are $1000 retail
13:54 < plop> Casteil, can you do races with that?
13:54 < Casteil> lol no
13:54 < Casteil> but I can save myself 40% time spent mowering
13:54 < sp00ky> plop, You could if you really wanted to.
13:55 < plop> hehe
13:55 < sp00ky> plop, There's something to be said about a lawnmower with a big block.
13:56 < plop> do you guys remember that movie about a lawnmower guy and matrix style thingie so cybernetic?
13:56 < SynMonger> lawnmower man
13:56 < SynMonger> no, I don't
13:56 < humpaxx> Hey folks
13:56 < plop> yes. that movie
14:03 < plop> ah, same year as sneakers.
14:08 <@cryptic1> morning
14:10 < arlion> good morning sneakers.
14:12 < ekaj> sup noobs
14:14 < ProdigalTim> Alright Microsoft Updates
14:14 < ProdigalTim> What's on fire today?
14:14 < ProdigalTim> Bring it on, I'm ready for it
14:15 < ProdigalTim> shall we create an infinite boot loop? How about breaking RDP? Maybe we should force incorrect drivers to certain NIC cards that don't work
14:15 < ProdigalTim> BRING IT ON, I can handle it
14:26 < miggyb> What do you guys do for the email account of an employee that's leaving the company? So far we've been just disabling/removing the account but not sure if "forward everything to coworker@" is a more standard practice
14:27 < humpaxx> I have a problem with apache2 that you might be able to help me with.. a brand-sparklin new vhost isn´t working, when i try to access it by url it just goes to the default site
14:27 < humpaxx> The config file looks exactly like one of the working ones (except for a different ServerName and DocumentRoot)
14:28 < humpaxx> miggyb: Usually just disable the account and put up a forward/alias to someone else (usually their manager)
14:28 < giant_it_burrit> setup it as aias
14:28 < asimon> Good morning my friends
14:28 < miggyb> humpaxx: yeah, that sounds sane enough. Also not sure if GDPR is going to make that fucky either, augh
14:29 < humpaxx> Fuck. just ran out of battery in my headset
14:29 < humpaxx> I guess i´ll just go home. Can´t work like this. :p
14:33 < corn266> Mornin all
14:35 < kepler> yo
14:37 < JollyRgrs> ah
14:37 < JollyRgrs> push it
14:37 < JollyRgrs> ah push it
14:37 < JollyRgrs> oh baby baby
14:37 < JollyRgrs> oh babybaby
14:37 < asimon> Excuse me I'm trying to work
14:37 < JollyRgrs> PUSH IT
14:37 < JollyRgrs> PUSH IT REEEEL GUD!
14:38 < JollyRgrs> asimon: gotta get some grooves to help you work
14:38 < corn266> Sounds more like you got some grooves to help you shit
14:38 <@cryptic1> reaaaaaaaaal good
14:38 <@cryptic1> re re real good
14:39 < rhqq> cryptic1: get back to work
14:40 < ihre> Hatsjoe: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0193087
14:40 <@cryptic1> D:
14:40 < ihre> something useful to print :p
14:42 < rhqq> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/cryptic1-get-back-to-work/32860947676.html
14:42 < rhqq> they're quite cheap anyway
14:42 < Hatsjoe> ihre: haha nice
14:42 < Jekotia> This is probably a long-shot, but I don't suppose there's a custom router firmware out there, for the likes of the WRT54*, that makes it useful for measuring wifi signals (so you can use it to try to optimise transmission/coverage and local interference)
14:43 < corn266> Wifi analyzer in the google app store?
14:43 < ihre> Jekotia: https://github.com/libremesh/spectrum-analyzer-packages
14:44 < Jekotia> corn266: Thanks, but I'm already aware of that one :) Was just sort of hoping that this router which I know to have a LOT of custom firmware options could be turned into a spectrum analyser. We have wifi issues here, but no one wants to spend the money on properly fixing it
14:45 < SynMonger> https://www.ekahau.com/products/heatmapper/overview/
14:45 < Jekotia> And sadly our wifi isn't just for convenience; we have mobile terminals in our warehouse
14:45 < onenerdyguy> so, if you ahve conflicting user/computer gpo's set, which will take precedence?
14:45 < ihre> Jekotia: in short, use openwrt for that
14:45 < onenerdyguy> i.e. We have users set to 15m screen lock, but we want these 2 computers to not get that.
14:45 < Jekotia> ihre: Thanks!
14:46 <@Code_Man65> onenerdyguy:  You are probably going to get into loopback processing if you link things at the domain level
14:46 < onenerdyguy> nah, they're at the OU level
14:46 <@Code_Man65> Otherwise I'd put those machines in their own OU with a specific GPO
14:46 < onenerdyguy> Code_Man65, thats what we've got now
14:46 < onenerdyguy> Code_Man65, but it's nested..yeah, i'm coming into this this morning.
14:47 < kepler> onenerdyguy: is it the C levels who don't want the 15 min lockouts, or you doing it to your own machines?
14:47 < Jekotia> SynMonger: Looks nice, but that would require accurate and recent layouts of the factory and warehouse... I'd rather go to the dentist than try and get people to finally update those :/
14:47 <@Code_Man65> The nesting is what's getting you
14:47 < onenerdyguy> kepler, it's a specific set of machines that run teletype, so they need to be up longer than the 15.
14:47 <@Code_Man65> You'll have to turn on loopback
14:47 < kepler> ahhh
14:47 < Bru-> hmm
14:47 < SynMonger> Jekotia: it can use any image file for the background, so it'll use a hand-drawn layout if you want
14:47 < Bru-> gonna try this lubuntu business
14:48 < onenerdyguy> Code_Man65, if I remember right, loopback is just another gpo isn't it?
14:48 < ihre> Jekotia: you could also search for running that wrt on a battery pack to make it portable
14:48 <@Code_Man65> No, it's a GPO setting
14:48 < ihre> might be useful
14:48 < onenerdyguy> ah ok
14:48 <@Code_Man65> Enable loopback processing
14:49 <@Code_Man65> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/231287/loopback-processing-of-group-policy
14:49 < humpaxx> Im about to quit and go herd goats instead of this
14:49 < genr8_> HURD
14:49 < SynMonger> HODL
14:50 < rhqq> genr8_: really? nobody in the world has beard long enough to run hurd
14:51 < humpaxx> Is there some kind of magic string of characters that apache2 just won´t use for vhosts?
14:51 < Jekotia> SynMonger: Hand-drawn layout for a factory + warehouse? No thanks. Dentist pls.
14:52  * SynMonger shrugs
14:55 < SynMonger> My point is that it doesn't need to be a scale drawing to see the dead spots, you just click on the drawing at your best guess of where you're standing and it figures out the rest
15:04 < BOXXY> cryptic1, is a great OP
15:04 < Jekotia> SynMonger: Ah, okay. Thanks!
15:05 < humpaxx> wtf
15:05 < humpaxx> If i replace the not-working url with something else in the apache2 vhost config the other adress works
15:06 < humpaxx> change it back and it goes the default site instead
15:12 < tapoxi> https://people.redhat.com/duffy/selinux/selinux-coloring-book_A4-Stapled.pdf
15:14 < ihre> haha tapoxi, i saw mr walsh at a conference a couple of weeks ago and he mentioned they were working on a 2nd selinux coloring book :p
15:14 < tapoxi> ihre: which one?
15:15 < ihre> SUE 2018, a con in the netherlands
15:16 <@Code_Man65> I just install the setroubleshoot package and be done with it
15:16 < DomLS3> Or install Windows and be done with it better
15:17 < tapoxi> ahh, I ran into him at devopsdays boston last year but didnt have time to chat
15:17 < tapoxi> dude has a perfect boston accent its great
15:17 < ihre> Code_Man65: sometimes that returns wrong results though, changing contexts where it shouldnt, providing wrong advice
15:17 < DomLS3> I wasn't trolling tho
15:17 < DomLS3> for once
15:17 <@Code_Man65> I've never seen it give wrong results
15:17 < ihre> tapoxi: i talked to him afterwards, was mostly re: openshift and atomic, which are both sweet projects imo
15:18 < ihre> Code_Man65: i can dig up a couple, zabbix-agent is the first that comes to mind
15:18 <@Code_Man65> I just do sealert -a /var/log/audit/audit.log > /path/to/mylogfile.txt  and look at what comes out of it
15:18 <@Code_Man65> Tells you exact where it's acting up
15:18 < ihre> but i think i've nuked most of that, since it was on a laptop from my previous job
15:19 < tapoxi> ihre: atomic is dead rip
15:19 <@Code_Man65> You can do openshift on azure now
15:19 < ihre> tapoxi: not at all, https://github.com/projectatomic/atomic
15:19 < ekaj> I set a service to manual and stopped it and it keeps restarting >.<
15:21 < tapoxi> ihre: last commit was a little bit after they announced this https://coreos.com/blog/coreos-tech-to-combine-with-red-hat-openshift
15:21 < tapoxi> base for openshift is now coreos
15:21 < tapoxi> er, container linux
15:22 < ihre> so essentially a rename/rebrand, he also mentioned that afterwards, iirc they will just use the atomic concept
15:24 < tapoxi> oh weird
15:24 < ihre> fml, helm install --set doesnt work, setting the same values in the yaml file does :p
15:24 < tapoxi> so rpm-ostree instead of omaha?
15:24 < tapoxi> (I really want atomic to work because fedora atomic workstation sounds fuckin' dope)
15:26 < corn266> tapoxi: I'm sending that coloring book to my coworkers
15:29 < am0nrahx> lmfao some dickhead got banned from donger for stats boosting
15:29 < am0nrahx> What a loser
15:29 < corn266> How could DomLS3 do this
15:29 < am0nrahx> Right? What a chode.
15:31 < ravioli> the first long-term ban in the history of the dongerdong
15:31 < humpaxx> It works now and i have absolutely no idea why it didn´t work in the first place
15:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> damn
15:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> machine #2 with the DNS that refuses to change
15:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> -.-
15:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> ipv4 settings show a different DNS than is showing on the interface wtffff
15:32 < humpaxx> McDonaldsWiFi: have you tried turning it off and on again?
15:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> o.O
15:33 < humpaxx> Its a windows 10 machine, isn´t it?
15:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> yup
15:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> fml
15:33 < Bru-> morn
15:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> I've even salted the earth, aka winsock reset
15:34 < humpaxx> Windows 10 feature, its working as intended
15:34  * Bru- fucks your life
15:34 < humpaxx> Try disabling and enabeling the interface
15:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> i've uninstaleld the damn interface
15:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> I've doen it all, the old DNS stays lol
15:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> its nuts
15:34 < humpaxx> Did you reboot tho?
15:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> yeah lol
15:34 < Bru-> its not a bug
15:34 < humpaxx> With "reboot" and not shut down and start it again?
15:34 < Bru-> its a feature
15:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> yes
15:34 < Bru-> also candy crush soda saga
15:34 < ravioli> are you on dhcp or static
15:34 < Bru-> 2legit2quit
15:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> so i think I know the problem bt I dunno how to fix it
15:35 < ravioli> what's the problem
15:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> we used Umbrella for a while
15:35 < ravioli> besides windows 10
15:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> so it would act as a dns aerver at 127.0.0.1
15:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> but it went wonky and this all started
15:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> there some mix up
15:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> unbrella is gone now but SHIT
15:35 < ebol4> re-image it
15:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> Maybe I should reinstall it...
15:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> ofc this is a c-level machine ebol4
15:35 < ebol4> oh god
15:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> who else would it be lol
15:36 < ebol4> does their desktop have every icon position filled
15:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> ironically the DNS server is set to our domain's server
15:36 < ekaj> she ain't fat bruh, just a lil' thick
15:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> so if they go to an office where I have an active VPn it works
15:36 < ebol4> thicc
15:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
15:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> domain's DNS server*
15:37 < ravioli> good morning felda
15:37 < ekaj> nsfw but related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxlgv2U8v_c
15:37 < ebol4> BANNED
15:37 < ekaj> nooo :( what else will i do at work
15:37 < asimon> The latest version of office web components is 2003 yes?
15:37 < F34RInc> felda, Took a screenshot of an APU2 @ 154F
15:37 < humpaxx> Does anyone here know of any good goat-breeding/herding courses?
15:37 < felda> good morning ravioli and F34RInc
15:38 < F34RInc> felda, morning feldaaaaaaaa
15:38 < felda> how did your APU2 get that hot?
15:40 < F34RInc> felda, not mine but someone doesnt understand that shit gets hot and stacks everything litterly ontop of each other.   Im going to let it die
15:40 < humpaxx> F34RInc: Pics?
15:40 < felda> I've seen a few people unintentionally smother their devices
15:41 < F34RInc> humpaxx, hold on
15:41 < ravioli> i wonder how much of a datacenter's cost goes to air conditioning
15:41 < ravioli> like, what percentage compared to power usage, etc.
15:42 < DomLS3> corn266: how could DomLS3 do what?
15:42 < ebol4> what if they used the air conditioning to push a wind turbine
15:43 < Jekotia> Setting up a DLINK DIR-601 (wireless router). When setting the date & time, your choices for year only go from 2002 to 2012...
15:44 < DomLS3> as if date and time on a WAP matter
15:44 < SynMonger> those things are ancient
15:44 < DomLS3> -__
15:44 < DomLS3> -_-
15:44 < gavit> anyone know an opensource whois server? My google fu is failing me
15:44 < Bru-> anyone use USB passthrough in win2016 hyperv?
15:44 < ihre> Jekotia: accounted for the mayan calendar
15:44 < ebol4> a what
15:44 < ravioli> a counted
15:44 < ebol4> thank you
15:44 < gavit> Bru-: my colleague did it yesterday
15:45 < ebol4> what is a whois server
15:45 < DomLS3> ravioli: not this again
15:45 < DomLS3> trolling rule violated
15:45 < ebol4> we talkin dns
15:45 < Bru-> gavit: for a usb drive or serial device?
15:45 < ihre> gavit: https://github.com/openprovider/whoisd ?
15:45 <@Code_Man65> What, DomLS3 is trolling?
15:45 < DomLS3> That
15:45 < DomLS3> That is trolling
15:45 < DomLS3> and abuse
15:45 < DomLS3> and it will not be tolerated in this channel
15:46 < DomLS3> This is your first warning Code_Man65
15:46 < ebol4> is this just a whois cache thing
15:46 < vinrock> in this house we observe the laws of thermodynamics
15:47 <@Code_Man65> In Soviet Russia laws of thermodynamics observe you.
15:47 <@cryptic1> Code_Man65, back to work
15:47 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, back to work
15:47 <@cryptic1> vinrock, back to work
15:47 <@cryptic1> ebol4, back to work
15:47 <@cryptic1> DomLS3, back to work
15:47 < vinrock> im offended
15:47 < DomLS3> why am I not +v
15:48 < DomLS3> cryptic1: D:
15:49 <@cryptic1> because reasons
15:49 < felda> :O the man
15:49 < felda> the legend
15:49 < felda> cryptic1 himself
15:49 < DomLS3> oh no felda is here
15:49 < DomLS3> pfsense
15:49 < DomLS3> let's fix that
15:49  * cryptic1 presents felda with his award
15:49 < TuxedoJack> pfsense pfsense pfsense
15:49 < felda> I must congratulate you cryptic1
15:49 < darkscrypt> cryptic1: back to work!
15:49 < darkscrypt> you sexy looking monster.
15:49 < ebol4> back to pork
15:49 < Bru-> gavit: did he follow a certain tutorial?
15:50 < felda> cryptic1 I have heard of your success being the lead singer in your Nickleback cover band congrats!
15:50  * cryptic1 hands felda his dns trophy with a detailed inscription on the front 1.0.0.1
15:50 < Bru-> gavit: or did he use a usb/ip server/client?
15:51 < Bru-> or via discrete device assignment?
15:51 < alazare619> can any cellphone guys verify if google fi uses imei?
15:51 < gavit> Bru-: usb for an external hdd
15:51 < alazare619> or if its all done just via a simcard?
15:52 < gavit> Bru-: lemme ask for you
15:52 < Bru-> gavit: thanks man! trying to passthrough z-wave dongle to linux vm
15:53 < gavit> ihre: thanks. now to see how to manipulate that. we have an implementation of https://sourceforge.net/projects/modwhois/
15:53 < gavit> Bru-: he did it to a windows vm though
15:53 < gavit> Bru-: but it should get you somewhere
15:54 <@killdash9> alazare619: depends on the phone. with my Pixel they used a sim. With my wife's pixel2 they didn't need one
15:54 < Bru-> gavit: what should get me somewhere?
15:54 < alazare619> this pixel i'm looking at says unknown but it is carrier unlocked
15:54 < alazare619> says check imei in the desc but idk how to verify if i can use this pixel on gfi
15:55 < alazare619> her 5x just went into the dreaded bootloop
15:55 <@killdash9> if it's a Pixel then it's usable on Fi.
15:55 < alazare619> but what if someone contract skipped i.e. got it then stopped paying?
15:55 < alazare619> can it still be activated i guess is the question
15:55 < alazare619> never really purchased a cellphone off ebay
15:56 <@killdash9> yeah, it could be nuked. I've heard of it. I've always been able to test the phone with an old sim. :-/
15:57 < Bru-> so signed my offer letter today
15:57 < Bru-> woohoo!
15:57 < Bru-> did it the fancy way on my toughbook
15:57 < Bru-> enabled fill and sign in the pdf
15:57 < Bru-> saved and sent back
15:57 < Bru-> IM ONE GREEN MOTHAFUCKA
15:59 < ebol4> what job
15:59 < felda> Literally Veeam Endpoint: We can see your backup drive is full so we're gonna lock the drive and make sure the backup job never stops.
15:59 < felda> Veeam Endpoint top tier software no doubt
16:00  * cryptic1 sneaks a 8.8.8.8 over to felda
16:00  * DomLS3 sneaks a cyanide pill into felda's coffee while cryptic1 distracts by sneaking a 8.8.8.8
16:00 < felda> I would like to submit this evidence^ that cryptic1 is in fact a witch and must be BURNED
16:01 < felda> I AM RECEIVING SEXUAL HARASSMENT
16:01 < felda> * Received a CTCP 8.8.8.8 from cryptic1
16:01 < felda> * Received a CTCP 8.8.4.4 from cryptic1
16:01 < ProdigalTim> any problems with setting DHCP lease to 1 hour?
16:02 < ProdigalTim> Seems ridiculous to me
16:02 < ProdigalTim> but not sure if it can cause issues
16:02 < F34RInc> humpaxx, felda, https://i.imgur.com/mM80qez.png
16:02 < DomLS3> ProdigalTim: The question is, why would you want to set the lease to 1 hour?
16:02 < ProdigalTim> I wouldnt
16:02 < ebol4> ProdigalTim: shouldn't be any issues, i think pretty much all dhcp clients will keep refreshing the lease while it's in use
16:02 < ProdigalTim> someone else did
16:03 <@Code_Man65> Our standard lease time is 4 hours
16:03 <@Code_Man65> Matches the ARP cache lifetime
16:03 < DomLS3> mine is 3 days
16:03 < ebol4> mine was 1 day when i used to manage it
16:03 < Casteil> welp that's enough handholding
16:03 < ebol4> there's never enough handholding
16:04 < Casteil> been back and forth with this guy for a week for #notmyjob
16:04 < ProdigalTim> yeah 3 days always worked well for me
16:04 < felda> I set my lease time to 69 hours  ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
16:04 < Casteil> ignoring this last email because it's something he's responsible for and it's literally not my job
16:04 < DomLS3> huehuehue
16:04 < DomLS3> Casteil: But not going above and beyond = looks bad on management
16:05 < DomLS3> you're such a bad employee for only doing "your job"
16:05 < Casteil> my boss has probably been wondering why I've stayed in it for so long
16:05 < Casteil> (he's on the CC)
16:06 < Casteil> this is supplies related shit and I'm in a software role now
16:08 < humpaxx> F34RInc: hehehe 69
16:08 < Bru-> ebol4: job at MSP
16:09 < jaelae> what assclown designed microsoft teams
16:09 < ebol4> seriously
16:09 < Bru-> same guy who released that MS Word update
16:10 < ebol4> never worked at an msp before
16:10 < ebol4> maybe someday
16:12 < Bru-> me neither
16:12 < Bru-> im entering at an ALMOST entry level for 90 days
16:12 < Bru-> for the same pay as im making now as senior tech
16:12 < Bru-> only with much more growth potential
16:12 < spstarr> DHCP EXPLOIT
16:13 < ebol4> nice
16:13 < spstarr> its classified as an ebola :D
16:13 < DomLS3> holy shit
16:13 < spstarr> craft special packet and remote root
16:13 < DomLS3> I just ripped a huge fart in the office
16:13 < DomLS3> luckily it was silent but my ass is a little wet it was that bad
16:13 < Bru-> i figure its a great opportunity for me to learn more stuff
16:13 < Bru-> get certs
16:14 < ihre> spstarr: cve?
16:14 < ravioli> https://access.redhat.com/security/vulnerabilities/3442151
16:14 < JFDkthx> estranger: GARBAGE DAY
16:14 < spstarr> DHCP EXPLOIT
16:14 < ebol4> CVE-2018-1111
16:14 < ravioli> affected OS's: https://imgur.com/a/RwaG3rs
16:14 < spstarr> CVE-2018-1111
16:15 < ihre> "NetworkManager" :<
16:15 < grumplestiltzkin> Casteil: "other duties as assigned"  ?
16:15 <@Code_Man65> In other news, water is wet.  Patch your shit.
16:15 < DomLS3> patching is for weebs
16:15 < DomLS3> just ask MillerBOSS
16:15 <@Code_Man65> We are actually having a discussion later today about moving all servers (save a few) to DHCP
16:15 < TuxedoJack> Code_Man65: you sick fuck
16:15 < spstarr> critical exploit
16:16 < spstarr> EMERGENCY required fix exploit
16:16 <@Code_Man65> Nah TuxedoJack, makes life simpler for everyone.  Static addressing doesn't scale.
16:16 < Casteil> grumplestiltzkin: I do what needs to be done, but in this case my boss would probably discourage me from spending so much time handholding this particular individual
16:16 < ebol4> having all servers on dhcp with automatic DNS updates would be so nice
16:16 <@Code_Man65> Exactly ebol4
16:16 < spstarr> hehe
16:16 < TuxedoJack> Better have good DNS and scavenging / cleanup, then
16:16 < TuxedoJack> And pray shit doesn't break
16:16 <@Code_Man65> Plus it completely negates our need for IPAM
16:16 < DomLS3> until DNS breaky
16:16 < JFDkthx> ebol4: except when your DHCP server starts handing out duplicate ips like ours is.
16:17 <@Code_Man65> That's why we have conflict detection on
16:17 < ebol4> are you using a d-link router from 2002
16:17 < JFDkthx> nope AD.
16:17 < JFDkthx> well
16:17 < JFDkthx> winders dhcp
16:17 <@Code_Man65> Then you are doing something wrong
16:17 <@Code_Man65> We have 2012 R2 DHCP servers with failover
16:17 < DomLS3> ^
16:17 < JFDkthx> im blaming the 1.desktop people 2.the SECURITY guy that set it up
16:17 < DomLS3> Who needs failover DHCP when you can just have one big scope
16:18 < ebol4> the dhcp pool is 10.0.0.0/8
16:18 < DomLS3> I'm assuming by failover you mean spillover
16:18 <@Code_Man65> Because the entire scope fails over to the other server when one is unavailable
16:18 <@Code_Man65> No, I mean DHCP failover
16:18 <@Code_Man65> https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/teamdhcp/2012/06/28/ensuring-high-availability-of-dhcp-using-windows-server-2012-dhcp-failover/
16:18 < DomLS3> ah ok
16:19 < TuxedoJack> God fucking DAMN it, this MS account bullshit is conditioning people to log in with fucking UPNs
16:19 < TuxedoJack> Fucking stupid-ass shit
16:19 < TuxedoJack> Just log in with fucking domain credentials
16:20 <@Code_Man65> TuxedoJack:  You do realize that the UPN has been the modern login for awhile, right?
16:20 <@Code_Man65> The domain\username is called the pre-2000 username for a reason
16:20 < spstarr> cd /home/ebol4; ls -la; cd .virus; ls -la; cd .infection; ls -la !
16:20 < spstarr> ls: cannot access '!': No such file or directory
16:20 < spstarr> :P
16:21 < ebol4> ./ebol
16:21 < ebol4> what is UPN
16:21 <@Code_Man65> User Principal Name
16:21  * spstarr dumps ebol4 for debug symbols
16:21 <@Code_Man65> In most cases it matches the users e-mail address
16:22 < spstarr> can't trust :)
16:22 < TuxedoJack> Code_Man65: the problem is that the user's actual UPN is @theherpderpgroup.com and they're conditioning their fucking users to log in with their e-mail address, which is @herpderp.com
16:22 < SynMonger> username@domain.biz
16:22 < TuxedoJack> Not the actual literal domain name, but you get the point
16:22 < ebol4> i see
16:22 <@Code_Man65> TuxedoJack:  So make that a valid UPN suffix and change everyones suffix to that
16:22 <@Code_Man65> Problem solved
16:22 <@Code_Man65> You are getting way too worked up over something stupid simple to fix
16:22 < grumplestiltzkin> Code_Man65: you can't change things, sillypants
16:23 < grumplestiltzkin> some midlevel manager will pitch a fit
16:23 < TuxedoJack> Code_Man65: wish we could change it, honestly, or just tell them to log in properly
16:23 <@Code_Man65> They ARE logging in properly, that's what I'm saying
16:23 <@Code_Man65> UPN is a proper way to login
16:23 <@Code_Man65> Make it work for your users
16:24 <@Code_Man65> It isn't even a breaking change, it's just an additional option
16:24 <@Code_Man65> https://www.petri.com/add-upn-suffixes-in-active-directory
16:25 < TuxedoJack> It's an option that we both don't have time to implement (going back through a fuckton of user accounts and changing them - and leaving the old UPNs on quite a few, since the fucking slumlords who are that client use multiple domains in their UPNs) and don't give enough of a shit to until they pay their bills on time
16:26 < ebol4> that's powershell babey
16:26 <@Code_Man65> Yeah, what time
16:26 <@Code_Man65> It takes all of 30 seconds
16:27 < TuxedoJack> 30 seconds when you have time to sit down and puzzle it out, and clean up AD so the people who get X / Y / Z UPNs are in the right OUs / groups, etc
16:28 <@Code_Man65> Again, that's simple.  You use the -searchbase parameter on your get-aduser
16:28 <@Code_Man65> That way you limit it to that OU (and its sub-ou's
16:28 <@Code_Man65> )
16:28 < DomLS3> quest activeroles is so much nicer than regular AD powershell
16:30 < JFDkthx> hey Code_Man65 RH is doing a webinar on the meeting i had with them last week, about using satellite. i bet they'll talk about the new pricing then.
16:30 <@Code_Man65> We have access to ATA for crap like what that does DomLS3, just need to actually implement it.
16:30 < JFDkthx> want me to send you the register link?
16:30 < JFDkthx> or forward the email?
16:30 <@Code_Man65> Just send me the registration link
16:30 < JFDkthx> kk
16:30 < DomLS3> Code_Man65: I mean, you can install it on your workstation
16:31 < DomLS3> you don't need anything special to run activeroles
16:31 < ekaj> Anyone know of a site like microsoft / symantec where I can download just a plain old text file with some crap in it
16:31 < ravioli> http://microsoft.com/robots.txt
16:31 < ekaj> lmao that works thanks
16:31 <@Code_Man65> DomLS3:  No thanks, we also have splunk (and varonis) for corellating crap
16:31 < DomLS3> if zip would work: https://www.thinkbroadband.com/download
16:32 < DomLS3> Code_Man65: so, stuff you have to pay for
16:32 < DomLS3> got it
16:32 <@Code_Man65> I work in a Fortune 500, money we have
16:32 < DomLS3> I guess
16:32 < DomLS3> I'm of the mentality of "less is better"
16:32 < DomLS3> if I don't have to have 4 pieces of software to do something, I don't
16:32 <@Code_Man65> Both of those tools are owned by infosec
16:32 <@Code_Man65> We just get to use them
16:33 <@Code_Man65> See I disagree DomLS3, use the right tool for the problem you are trying to solve.
16:33 <@Code_Man65> Trying to make one tool do everything means it can't be really good at everything
16:33 < DomLS3> Code_Man65: But if one tool solves all your problems, why use multiple?
16:34 < DomLS3> It's not "Trying to make one tool do everything." In this case, one tool DOES do everything
16:34 < DomLS3> At least for me it does
16:34 <@Code_Man65> Yeah, we have to worry about scale.  We have to go across 10s of thousands of devices
16:35 < DomLS3> huge companies are different for sure
16:35 <@Code_Man65> I mean for us, 100 grand is a rounding error
16:36 < ekaj> round it right to my paycheck then
16:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> i hate corporate speak
16:36 < DomLS3> ^
16:36 < DomLS3> But even so, I hate complicating things with extra stuff "just because we have the money to do it"
16:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> "make this process as efficient as possible using in-depth queries.."
16:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> gag
16:36 <@Code_Man65> It isn't about complicating it, it is about making sure the solutions can scale to the use case needed
16:37 < corn266> xfninity just increased my bill from $60/month to $92/month :: Anyone have verizon fios with their own router?
16:37 < DomLS3> corn266: go to AT&T
16:37 < DomLS3> 1Gb fiber for $75 a month
16:37 < ebol4> i have verizon and have no issues
16:37 < ebol4> depends where you live though
16:37 < ravioli> ^^
16:38 < ravioli> i don't even think they offer fiber to residential in my area
16:38 < corn266> AT&T not available in my area
16:38 < corn266> I live like 1000ft from their hub
16:38 < corn266> s/their/verizon
16:39 < corn266> But verizon requires their router, and fuck that noise
16:39 < ebol4> verizon lets me use my own router
16:40 < ravioli> you guys are lucky you have choices like that
16:40 < corn266> What router do you have?
16:40 < ebol4> i don't use my own router lol, but the choice is there
16:40 < ekaj> XR 5230
16:40 < ravioli> we have either the phone company or the cable company. and they're both overpriced garbage here.
16:40 < JFDkthx> its garbage all the way down ravioli
16:40 < ebol4> one good thing about living in a big city is decent options and prices for internet
16:41 < DomLS3> ravioli: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECT5INZVPEU
16:42 < JollyRgrs> DomLS3, Code_Man65 it also makes a difference if you are looking at one sysadmin managing all teh different platforms or being big enough to have support teams for each
16:42 < humpaxx> wtf apache y u do this?
16:42 < humpaxx> Sometimes it shows the right page and sometimes it shows the default site page..
16:42 < JollyRgrs> is default not the right?
16:42 < humpaxx> JollyRgrs: no
16:42 <@cryptic1> please felda dns is not evil
16:42 < ekaj> escalate to level 2
16:43 < ravioli> like two years ago i lived in a "city" here and had time warner, worst experience of my life. they came to my apartment legit 11 times over a year. my connection kept dying. they kept replacing my modem. then another tech came by and showed me graphs showing interference from upstairs neighbor was booting me off. told me he'd be back monday to fix the neighbor's connection. ended up coming back wednesday with a defeated look on his face saying
16:43 < ravioli>  "my boss told me to replace your modem"
16:43 < felda> JollyRgrs you think dns is morally corrupt like me right?
16:43 < JollyRgrs> cryptic1: i've been DNS free since 2023
16:43 < humpaxx> cryptic1: just what a DNS shrill would say
16:43 < felda> :D
16:43 <@cryptic1> felda please let the employees at your company use it
16:43 < ravioli> paid $60/mo for 30M down
16:43 < felda> C O M R A D E
16:43 < ihre> did the googles remove chrome's 'task manager'?
16:43 <@cryptic1> O_o
16:43 < felda> It is unethical to force my users to use DNS
16:43 < JollyRgrs> ihre: i don't think so?
16:43 < TuxedoJack> ravioli: at that point, go to the demarc, snip your neighbor's coax pin down a quarter inch, and screw it back on
16:43 < humpaxx> JollyRgrs: its not making any sense.. Its a new vHost, theres 10 others on the same box
16:44 < ihre> JollyRgrs: i thought it was right click on tab -> task manageR?
16:44 < ravioli> i was moving out of the apartment anyway so i just went to the time warner office with my modem and yelled at the disinterested employees at the support desk.
16:44 < corn266> So $92/mo for 250 down or $80/mo for 940 down but a 2 year contract
16:44 < ihre> i cant find it anymore though ;P
16:44 < humpaxx> corn266: tahts a lof dollaz
16:44 < corn266> those are my only choices for decent internet, or I could go back to 10 down for $50
16:44 < JollyRgrs> https://www.lifewire.com/google-chrome-task-manager-4103619 ihre
16:46 < ihre> doh, thanks JollyRgrs
16:46 < JollyRgrs> ihre: it did USED to be
16:46 < JollyRgrs> https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/how-to-use-chromes-built-in-task-manager
16:46 < JollyRgrs> sometime between 2018 and 2012 it was removed
16:47 < ihre> shift esc is all i need to remember i guess
16:47 < JollyRgrs> ^^
16:49 < ebol4> comrade o7
16:50 < JollyRgrs> ebol4: fist pump me! o-m
16:51 < hxcsp> laurel
16:51 < JollyRgrs> hxcsp: i saw that in my news feed, i'm refusing (for now) to click on it
16:51 < mrghostman> yanny & laurel
16:51 < ravioli> i can spoil it for you
16:51 < mrghostman> i hear both
16:51 < hxcsp> i heard both
16:51 < ravioli> ...it's both.
16:51 < mrghostman> depending on which pitch i focus on
16:51 < hxcsp> its different frequencies
16:51 < hxcsp> or something
16:51 < ravioli> i heard yanny at first, fwiw.
16:51 < asimon> Is that like the blue/gold dress
16:52 < ravioli> but then again it's on my phone speaker which is god awful
16:52 < ebol4> O-m
16:53 < ravioli>  m-O
16:54 < AnimalFarmPig> they were playing that yanny/laurel thing on "Live! With Kelly Ripa & Ryan Seacrest" this morning. Apparently it depends on the device you're playing it on.
16:54 < hxcsp> my coworker with a hearing aid hears it as yanny
16:54 < hxcsp> i hear it as laurel
16:54 < ebol4> why were you watching live with kelly ripa & ryan seacrest
16:54 < mrghostman> ^
16:55 < hxcsp> Ellen wasnt on yet?
16:55 < AnimalFarmPig> it comes on after the local news
16:55 < ebol4> this guy watches the news
16:55 < ebol4> more like animalfarmSHEEP
16:56 < JollyRgrs> hxcsp: i hear sheeple
16:56 < SynMonger> I've tried on a couple of computers, headphones, earbuds, phone speakers... it's always laurel
16:56 < AnimalFarmPig> if I didn't watch the local news, I wouldn't know that today is national bbq day!
16:56 < JollyRgrs> but it is clearly laurel... no ya or eeeeee sounds at all
16:56 < ebol4> national bbq day is capitalist propaganda intended to prop up big barba
16:56 < hxcsp> now try listening to it through your cellphone JollyRgrs
16:56 < SynMonger> AnimalFarmPig: I could use a butt to smoke, care to donate?
16:57 < JollyRgrs> hxcsp: wtf do i have to do that?
16:57 < hxcsp> so you can hear it differently
16:57 < hxcsp> its technically both sounds, but different frequencies etc
16:57 < AnimalFarmPig> SynMonger: I actually don't really like bbq. I'm a bad Texan.
16:57 < hxcsp> AnimalFarmPig: but do you like Whataburger
16:57 < hxcsp> and/or shipleys?
16:58 < mrghostman> mmm shipleys
16:58 < ebol4> i rubbed the bajangus out of my eye and it's probably so red now
16:58 <@killdash9> Shipleys good. Whataburger, meh
16:58 < AnimalFarmPig> hxcsp: for fast food, it's pretty good. I like their tendies with gravy & texas toast. Certainly better than In-n-Out.
16:58 < hxcsp> If you dont like Whataburger or shipleys then you are a bad texan
16:58 < AnimalFarmPig> more of a kolache guy than doughnuts
16:58 < hxcsp> AnimalFarmPig: "Better than In-N-Out" is the answer i was looking for
16:58 < mrghostman> wtb a kolache from shipleys
16:58 < JollyRgrs> whataburger is meh, i will agree with that
16:58 < JollyRgrs> they do have a good mix for their cherry coke fountain though
16:58 < hxcsp> JollyRgrs: whataburger outside of texas is meh
16:58 < grumplestiltzkin> AnimalFarmPig: SHAME
16:59 < JFDkthx> hxcsp: i miss whataburger
16:59 < JFDkthx> i miss san antonio :(
16:59 < AnimalFarmPig> I went to a shipley's when I lived in Nashville, because I heard they had kolaches. They only had klobasnek. :(
16:59 < hxcsp> im part of the rewards club SO I GET FREE SHIT
16:59 < hxcsp> to eat with their ketchup
16:59 < hxcsp> i could eat just the ketchup
16:59 < mrghostman> i went to one in nashville that had kolaches
16:59 < AnimalFarmPig> mrghostman: did they have meat in them?
16:59 < ebol4> kolaches sounds like a disease
17:00 < AnimalFarmPig> oops, brb
17:00 < hxcsp> kolaches that have meat are technically called klobasneks
17:00 < mrghostman> AnimalFarmPig: hrmm
17:00 < hxcsp> snek
17:00 < mrghostman> TIL
17:00 < SynMonger> I was born in texas... I'd rather have krispy kreme
17:01 < hexmonkey> meh
17:02 < JollyRgrs> SynMonger ++krispy kreme
17:02 < SynMonger> in fact, I've never heard of shipley, and looking at their store locator I used to drive by one on the way home from work
17:02 < JollyRgrs> esp. when hot/fresh
17:03 < ravioli> sometimes we chew on pine bark to stave away the hunger
17:04 < ekaj> mmm bark
17:04 < ekaj> especially birch
17:05 < mrghostman> birch bark is a good fire starter
17:07 < technonerd> So is cotton balls and Vaseline
17:09 < tapoxi> why are so many of you from texas
17:09 < tapoxi> nobody is from texas
17:09 < ebol4> poor sex ed
17:09 < ebol4> lots of people born there
17:09 < tapoxi> makes sense
17:09 < Bru-> shit
17:10 < Bru-> need to change bios settings to allow for OS control of PCIe bus
17:10 < Bru-> nuuu
17:10 < tapoxi> fuckin console cowboys
17:10 < Bru-> im remoted in
17:10 < hexmonkey> technonerd: balls and vaseline
17:10 < ebol4> Bru-: shoulda set up idrac
17:10 < Bru-> yeah
17:11 < Bru-> its a lenovo desktop box at home
17:11 < Bru-> lol
17:11 < hexmonkey> ebol4: somebody set us up teh bomb?
17:11 < Bru-> trying to do usb passthrough on a zwave stick
17:11 < ebol4> shoulda set up a robot that presses the power button and a webcam facing the monitor
17:11 < Bru-> lol
17:11 < hexmonkey> shoulda trained the dog to doot the doot
17:11 < Bru-> beep the boop
17:11 < Bru-> boop the beep
17:12 < hexmonkey> boop the snoot
17:12 < dragonfleas> boop the s n o o t e r
17:13 < JFDkthx> garbage plate for lunch boys
17:13 < dragonfleas> finally got secret server working
17:13 < dragonfleas> when it installed SQL express it corrupted the database? lmao
17:13 < dragonfleas> i had to manually create a new database
17:13 < dragonfleas> thycotic says "oh yeah the new installer is all inclusive it's touch and go" i'm like OK buDDY sure
17:14 < dragonfleas> of course i had issues from the beginning
17:14 < dragonfleas> time to spend all day putting our passwords from an unprotected word document into our secret server
17:14 < ebol4> euuguhhh mssql
17:17 < dragonfleas> ebol4, accurate
17:18 < dragonfleas> I have like 15 things to do, no deadlines but I'm overwhelmed
17:18 < ekaj> > tfw you update something and a bug causes load times to go from 30 seconds to 10 minutes
17:19 < dragonfleas> ekaj, sounds like pfsense
17:20  * hexmonkey is currently whelmed, going to get lunch now
17:20 < ekaj> dragonfleas: related but not quite
17:20 < dragonfleas> where's felda when u need him
17:21 < dragonfleas> right now i'm working at our small office
17:21 < dragonfleas> and an employee just went into bathroom and is exploding
17:21 < dragonfleas> it smells so fucking bad
17:21 < dragonfleas> what the fuck do i do
17:21 < dragonfleas> it smells like someone d i e d
17:22 < felda> wowee users flipping out over that stupid yanee vs laurel shit
17:22 < tapoxi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ
17:23 < tapoxi> ITS YANEY AND ITS A BLUE DRESS
17:23 < felda> tapoxi it entirely depends on what speakers you play it out of
17:23 < felda> https://twitter.com/earthvessquotes/status/996390813939748864
17:24 < ebol4> green jellö is such a national trasure
17:24 < Bru-> anyone know of a free usb/ip server/client?
17:24 < corn266> dragonfleas: I don't believe you. Their website has a quote from Anne Gorman, BankUnited saying "It's fast and easy ... and it just works"
17:24 < corn266> Would Anne Gorman lie for money?
17:24 < ekaj> If I have to downgrade this proxy I'mma be pissed
17:25 < sysDADmin> Hello. I am not dead
17:25 < sysDADmin> What is everyones' opinion on CyberPower UPSes?
17:25 < AnimalFarmPig> awesome, thx for link felda
17:25 < ebol4> i've never heard of cyberpower in my life
17:25 < sysDADmin> We were looking at doing APC again but our budget is really tight this year and yeah
17:26 < scwizard> geez
17:26 < ebol4> APC is the only reputable brand i'm aware of as far as UPS stuff goes
17:26 < scwizard> i did not wake up on the right side of the bed
17:26 < ebol4> tripplite is shit
17:26 < sysDADmin> https://www.cyberpowersystems.com/product/ups/pr3000lcdrtxl2un/ we're looking at this
17:26 < scwizard> my boss is working from home today though so that's that at least
17:26 < corn266> ebol4 ++
17:26 < SynMonger> cyberpower
17:26 < sysDADmin> we only use triplite UPSes on things we reeeeeally don't care that much about
17:26 < scwizard> maybe i should have too but
17:27 < dragonfleas> corn266, lmfao
17:27 < scwizard> i think i needed to come into the office to have any hopes to salvagin any productivity out of the day
17:27 < sysDADmin> we do have a portable AC unit by tripp-lite that works pretty well
17:27 < snarkadmin> so yeah
17:27 < corn266> oh god tapoxi I'm gonna vomit
17:27 < MadCamel> tripplite isobars are great surge protecters/emi filters at least
17:28 < snarkadmin> thought i'd get a feeler for if anyone in here has used CyberPower's UPSes
17:28 < scwizard> kinda expensive for a surge protector
17:28 < scwizard> don't cha think?
17:28 < AnimalFarmPig> I just played the laurel/yanni clip for my wife. She is not a native speaker of english. She doesn't think it sounds like anything.
17:28 < MadCamel> doesn't look like anything to me
17:28 < scwizard> AnimalFarmPig: where did they mail you your wife from (it's a joke)
17:29 < AnimalFarmPig> scwizard: I picked her out from the catalog's hungarian collection
17:29 < SynMonger> snarkadmin: we use cyberpower ups on everything here, they've been just as reliable as the APC units we replaced them with
17:29 < snarkadmin> SynMonger, thanks!
17:29 < scwizard> "let me get 3 orders of chocolate and also a wife btw"
17:30 < felda> AnimalFarmPig here is an even better version of that distinction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFIt14RXiQM
17:30 < snarkadmin> My gut would rather go with the known brand but i've not heard anything too terrible about cyberpower's stuff. My boss has used their PDUs some but doesn't really have any experience with their UPSes
17:30 < mrghostman> big factor on UPS units for me is the batteries themselves.  if the battery cartridge isnt encased in a rigid enclosure, the battery can expand when it goes bad.  make sit almost impossible to remove
17:30 < mrghostman> had this happen on a few APC units
17:31 < snarkadmin> mrghostman, we've had that issue with a couple older APCs as well
17:31 < MadCamel> I'm convinced smaller APC units cook their batteries on purpose.
17:31 < Casteil> god damn today is a DoD
17:31 < Casteil> day of derailments
17:32 < SynMonger> yeah I've had that on some APC units, but they were overcharging the batteries. After adjusting the voltage (after they were out of production) they were fine for things that weren't mission critical
17:32 < vinrock> fuckin shitbag windows 10
17:32 < vinrock> i modify the address on this vpn conection
17:32 < vinrock> save dat ish
17:32 < hexmonkey> Casteil: i was going to say that but i got pulled away for something
17:32 < vinrock> now when i clicky it says "element not found"
17:32 < vinrock> deleted it and redid it
17:32 < vinrock> same shit
17:32 < AnimalFarmPig> neat, thanks, felda. It's almost like steganography-- send out message that says one thing, apply the right transformation and get something totally different. Super cool.
17:32 < vinrock> fuckin garbage
17:32 < Casteil> hexmonkey: haha
17:32 < hexmonkey> vinrock: o/
17:32 < Casteil> even my derailments are getting derailed
17:33 < snarkadmin> side question, do you all use "official" super expensive APC batteries usually or do you just go to your local battery store and get the Duracell professional grade ones with the F1 / F2 terminals once your OEM batteries go kaput?
17:34 < JFDkthx> snarkadmin: we have maintenance countracts.
17:34 < JFDkthx> so official
17:34 < hexmonkey> snarkadmin: i just put together a bunch of D batteries in the shell of the original battery
17:34 < snarkadmin> @hexmonkey, ... really?
17:34 < JFDkthx> hexmonkey: 9volts in sequence
17:34 < snarkadmin> I'm too tired for pranks
17:34 < corn266>  > not using 18650s
17:35 < hexmonkey> and the D batteries are actually 3x AAAAs in the shell of the original D
17:35 < JFDkthx> which are just watchbatteries stacked
17:35 < corn266> LPT: Need batteries? Just cut the AAAAs out of D
17:35 < scwizard> gitlab is so fucking buggy ahhh
17:35 < snarkadmin> okay good my BS detector is still functioning despite the exhaustion
17:35 < SynMonger> my boss doesn't like replacing them at all, we typically rotate out the whole UPS on critical stuff then we buy cheap replacement cells and put them on less important things
17:35 < hexmonkey> corn266: that's where I got them in the first place
17:36 < snarkadmin> SynMonger, that sounds... expensive
17:36 < felda> ooof almost a school shooting near me
17:37 < JFDkthx> felda: you changed your mind
17:37 < hexmonkey> felda: almost?
17:37 < SynMonger> they last 3-5 years, and we don't have a huge backend
17:37 < felda> nah in Dixon, IL
17:37 < JFDkthx> dox
17:37 < JFDkthx> Code_Man65: please kick DomLS3 for felda doxxing
17:38 < snarkadmin> things i know about felda: Lives near Dixon, IL. Works for some place that deals with wood/lumber, once went to the hospital for extreme blood sugar
17:38  * snarkadmin adds these to the "things felda has done to dox himself log"
17:38 < JFDkthx> also has worlds largest hentai storage
17:38 < JFDkthx> his twitter is felda9000
17:38 < snarkadmin> JFDkthx, only vanilla stuff though right? no weird shit
17:38 < SynMonger> don't forget the unnatural love for all things pfsense
17:38 < hexmonkey> SOME SAY: under his beard is just another fist
17:39 < snarkadmin> please don't tell me that daddy felda is into weird hentai
17:39 < JFDkthx> his youtube channel is micheal feldan
17:39 < hexmonkey> s/fist/pfsense/
17:39 < felda> lmao it wouldn't be hard to actually find me
17:39 < JFDkthx> no one wants to though
17:39 < JFDkthx> i like you through irc well enough
17:39 < hexmonkey> forever_alone.png
17:39 < JFDkthx> ;)
17:40 < estranger> Hail!
17:40 < vinrock> sup hexmonkey
17:40  * JFDkthx shoots estranger
17:40 < felda> There are some who live close to me  ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
17:40  * estranger Corp Pors JFDkthx 
17:40 < felda> I will find them
17:40 < vinrock> yo you know there's a hot sauce company in whitehouse
17:40 < felda> I will break into their house
17:40  * JFDkthx vas an mani estranger
17:40 < estranger> Kal Ort Por!
17:41 < felda> and replace their router with pfsense
17:41  * estranger teleports outta here
17:41 < hexmonkey> vinrock: yup i get his sauce at the Bishops
17:41 < aName> So I'm trying to use certbot to generate some certs, and I've got a docker container running on a centos6 box. When I do "sudo docker run certbot/certbot --standalone --preferred-challenges http -d *.domain.tld" it starts asking me for an email address and then fails as 'An unexpected error occured: EOFError" before I can enter one
17:41 < estranger> JFDkthx, +1 on knowing the reference
17:41 < vinrock> i got a bottle of the carolina reaper sauce at the store in new hope
17:41 < JFDkthx> estranger: i play on a uo 3/4 private server
17:41 < estranger> vinrock, whats the first listed ingredient
17:41 < hexmonkey> pain
17:41 < vinrock> carolina reapers
17:41 < estranger> JFDkthx, wow no shit
17:41 < JFDkthx> yeah
17:41 < estranger> vinrock, sweet.. so many places water that shit down w/ vinegar
17:41 < JFDkthx> egg's ultima online
17:41 < estranger> vinegar it down?
17:41 < JFDkthx> probably one of my favourite games of all time
17:42 < vinrock> it's all natural too, none of that extract bullshit
17:42 < estranger> JFDkthx, dude i cant play any mmorpg cus UO was too fucking awesome
17:42 < estranger> JFDkthx, you could fucking wreck some poor kids 6 months worth of work with a good GM
17:42 < estranger> your house? this is my house
17:42 < ekaj> .bofh
17:42 < JFDkthx> estranger: yeah, it has a permadeath realm, a grind realm, nogrind realm, weekly pd league.
17:42 < estranger> JFDkthx, dude thats cool
17:43 < estranger> permadeath realm sounds awesome
17:43 < JFDkthx> its a lot of fun
17:43 < hexmonkey> aName: maybe you need to set a config file? never used certbot
17:43 < estranger> wish i had time :<
17:43 < JFDkthx> yeee
17:43 < estranger> 3 week bebe, i gots no more time for a while
17:44 < estranger> havent even used VR in 3 weeks!
17:44 < JFDkthx> we about to start trying for ours.
17:44 < JFDkthx> wish me luck
17:44 < estranger> GL man
17:44 < estranger> really :)
17:44 < hexmonkey> XiQMhFIt14R
17:44 < hexmonkey> fuck
17:44 < felda> cryptic1 do all Canadians sound like AvE?
17:44 < JFDkthx> kek
17:44 < AnimalFarmPig> <estranger> JFDkthx, dude i cant play any mmorpg cus UO was too fucking awesome    <------ this. Ultima Online was the first and the pinnacle of mmorpg's. Everything since then has been worse.
17:44 < estranger> AnimalFarmPig, amen brother
17:45 < vinrock> GEHEHENTLEMEEEEEN
17:45 < JFDkthx> AnimalFarmPig: you mean you didnt like THE REALM ONLINE
17:45 < estranger> every other mmorpg is pussified
17:45 < AnimalFarmPig> JFDkthx: is it a modern clone of UO without any additional "features"?
17:45 < JFDkthx> no
17:45 < aName> hexmonkey: Maybe - but it's asking at an interactive prompt lol
17:45 < AnimalFarmPig> then no
17:45 < JFDkthx> the realm is like super super super old
17:45 < estranger> SELLING MANDRAKE!!!!!!!!!
17:45 < estranger> SELLING MANDRAKE!!!!!!!!!!
17:45 < estranger> SELLING MANDRAKE!!!!!!!!!!!
17:45 < AnimalFarmPig> buy
17:45 < ekaj> RIP I upgraded to the wrong version that's my problem
17:45 < aName> WTB GF
17:46 < felda> JFDkthx actually lives in Cambodia
17:46 < JFDkthx> yup
17:46 < hxcsp> TIL JFDkthx is pol pot
17:46 < estranger> lol
17:47 < estranger> GM bard was so much fun.. fuck im hitting memory lane, NO TIME FOR THIS
17:47 < hexmonkey> hxcsp: JFDkthx  is just on holiday
17:47 < estranger> i should be in costa rica right now :<
17:47 < vavkamil> does anybody have access to tld zones?
17:48 < hxcsp> hexmonkey: hope he didnt forget to pack a wife
17:48 < JFDkthx> i gotta poop >.<
17:48 < hexmonkey> vinrock: did you have fun in the monsoon yesterday
17:48  * estranger hands JFDkthx the three shells
17:48 < JFDkthx> but im about to be asked about a project in this meeting
17:48 < vinrock> it wasn't too bad by the time i got home, where my office is tho there was some quick hail n shit
17:48 < felda> You guys know Kony 2012 thing to stop that bad guy from forcing children to fight in his militia and murder people?  That's actually hxcsp
17:48 < estranger> JFDkthx, HERES WHAT I THINK OF THE PROJECT *shit on the conference room desk*
17:48 < JFDkthx> haha
17:48 < SynMonger> poop on the table, problem solved
17:48 < vinrock> i think they recorded 81mph gusts in Pittstown
17:48 < JFDkthx> im on the phone so i would have to fart on phone.
17:48  * estranger SynMonger ^5
17:49 < hxcsp> felda: stop doxxing me mayne
17:49 < hxcsp> i was raking in that campaign money
17:49 < estranger> felda, lol oof
17:49 < hexmonkey> vinrock: took me 1:45 to get home, had to detour around about 4-5 times
17:49 < felda> estranger is R. Kelly in disguise
17:49 < vinrock> yeah my co worker got fucked too
17:49 < estranger> i got sunny weather here today :D
17:49 < vinrock> i knew better than taking 287
17:49  * estranger pees on felda 
17:49 < hexmonkey> parkway to 287 to 22 to back roads back to 22
17:49 < vinrock> washington ave from 287 to 22
17:49 < felda> vinrock is literally 3 lumps of coal stacked in a trench coat
17:50 < vinrock> i am quite elusive
17:50 < estranger> fossil fuel
17:50 < vinrock> i got that irritation in the back of my nose/throat area like when you start getting sick from all the fuckin pollen
17:51 < estranger> last wawa i was at was vineland.. man i love wawa
17:51 < vinrock> wawa is the best
17:51 < felda> worst of all
17:51 < hexmonkey> vinrock: quit snorting the pollen, it won't make you high
17:51 < felda> Code_Man65 is an alias for George Soros
17:51 < vinrock> too many pine trees
17:51 < estranger> April 27th, 2018.. a date ill never forget, until my next trip to wawa
17:51 < vinrock> that shit comes in waves
17:52 < hexmonkey> estranger: are there not wawa's in your locality?
17:52 < vavkamil> what is wawa
17:52 < hexmonkey> i thought they were everywhere
17:52 < estranger> hexmonkey, nope
17:52 < estranger> vavkamil, get out
17:52 < vinrock> nah hexmonkey just east coast
17:52 < estranger> hexmonkey, nope very limited actually... PA/NJ/DE/FL
17:52 < estranger> maybe a few more east coasts now?
17:53 < vinrock> i just assume 'east vcoast' cuz i see em from florida to jersey
17:53 < estranger> hexmonkey, I got Portillo's though
17:53 < vavkamil> so it's like walmart?
17:53 < estranger> its not wawa.. but its pretty damn awesome
17:53 < estranger> vavkamil, get out
17:53 < hexmonkey> i've apparently spent too much time on the east coast
17:53 < hexmonkey> lol
17:53 < estranger> vavkamil, its like a really good deli + convience store / gas station
17:54 < vinrock> ive been everywhere
17:54 < vinrock> first time i saw a piggly wiggly i was like
17:54 < vinrock> no fuckin way this is for real
17:54 < hexmonkey> haha
17:54 < hexmonkey> because of the name?
17:54 < vinrock> yeah
17:54 < estranger> yeah next to the Starvin Marvin
17:54 < SynMonger> the grocery store I shop at is "The Mad Butcher"
17:54 < ebol4> there was a kwik-e-mart in oregon for a while i think
17:54 < ebol4> was/is, not sure if it still exists
17:54 < vavkamil> lol there are weird supermarkets in usa
17:54 < estranger> I shop at some bullshit Meijers supermarket
17:54 < vinrock> i thin there were a few
17:54 < estranger> i miss Giant
17:54 < vinrock> they were 7-11's rebranded for the simpsons
17:54 < mrghostman> kum-n-go
17:54 < vinrock> iirc only one strayed called kwik-e-mart
17:55 < estranger> i remember that
17:55 < vinrock> dude kum n go
17:55 < ebol4> they sold buzz cola and comics from the simpsons and stuff
17:55 < hexmonkey> i remember learning about piggly wiggly when i was a kid because it was like, the first chain suprmarket or convenience store or something
17:55 < vinrock> thats another head scratcher
17:55 < estranger> i got 2 hrs to kill downtown
17:55 < estranger> i should find some food
17:55 < corn266> buy some hookers
17:56 < vavkamil> is there lidl in america?
17:56 < vinrock> im pretty sure there are
17:56 < vinrock> duno where tho
17:56 < estranger> never heard of it
17:56 < corn266> There's one in my town
17:56 < vinrock> aldi is making big moves here right now
17:56 < hexmonkey> i went to school with a girl whose last name was liedel
17:56 < vinrock> iirc its a german chain
17:56 < vinrock> lidl
17:56 < SynMonger> https://arkansastimes.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/dscn1820.JPG
17:56 < estranger> vinrock, yeah they are growing here.. they are HUGE in europe
17:56 < estranger> Aldi
17:57 < vinrock> my sister in law manages the new aldi in flemington
17:57 < vinrock> im like
17:57 < hexmonkey> dox
17:57 < vinrock> man
17:57 < vinrock> id kill myself if i went to college for that
17:57 < hexmonkey> hahaha
17:57 < estranger> college was the craziest six weeks of my life man
17:57 < SynMonger> when everyone has a college degree they cease to mean anything
17:57 < felda>  corn266, a local ruffian, is well known for coining the phrase, "We live in a society" and forming www.reddit.com/r/gamersriseup
17:57 < vinrock> i made it 3/4 thought hs and was like fuck this shit im outa here
17:58 < hexmonkey> there's a new climbing gym in flemington
17:58 < estranger> its fun when people at work find out im a drop out
17:58 < hexmonkey> yay no more 40 minute drive to the one by short hills
17:58 < vinrock> whoa really?
17:58 < vinrock> i been wanting to go to one of those climbing gyms
17:58 < corn266> Soon felda ... very soon...
17:59 < vinrock> hexmonkey did you hear that a guy blew his brains out at the range in flemington like a month ago
17:59 < hexmonkey> yup it's by the lowes and walmart, one building over from convlave brewery
17:59 < hexmonkey> vinrock: holy shit really
17:59 < vinrock> yeah man
17:59 < ebol4> why go to the range to do that
17:59 < vinrock> because the shitdick wasnt street enough to cop a gat so he had to rent one
17:59 < hexmonkey> oh shit the ttc
18:00 < ekaj> RIP, my appliance is slow because I upgraded it to the wrong version
18:00 < estranger> whoops
18:00 < vinrock> rip you
18:00 < ekaj> going to downgrade and then re-upgrade
18:00 < vinrock> around the world and back double snap upgrade
18:01 < ekaj> I noticed when I called support and he asked me what version I was running :( I have two firmware images in the same folder
18:01 < estranger> what kind of appliance?
18:02 < ekaj> proksy
18:02 < hexmonkey> last month I setup a maint window to upgrade a monitoring system but cnaceled the day before when their support basically told me "don't upgrade, the newest version is not stable, you'll just have to downgrade"
18:02 < hexmonkey> no idea why they still have that version available for download
18:03 < ekaj> because
18:03 < vinrock> damn
18:03 < vinrock> i just hit my juul and got fuucked up
18:03 < AnimalFarmPig> hexmonkey: they probably didn't want to delay the release of the new version, so they released it with bugs
18:04 < vinrock> i thoguth releasing buddy software was sop in tyool 2018
18:04 < vinrock> buggy, too
18:04 < hexmonkey> someone at my last job did it anyway - it blew away a bunch of historical chart data that they didn't have a backup for and now can't recover
18:05  * hexmonkey googles 'juul'
18:05 < estranger> hexmonkey, is it a .0 release? I typically dont recommend people use our X.X.0 releases in production even though they are stable releases
18:05 < felda> Re-install Windows 7, over 300 Windows updates to install.... Okay then
18:06 < corn266> vinrock: no smoking in the workplace
18:06 < hexmonkey> estranger: nope, it's .1 or .2 though the .0 is also busted
18:06 < estranger> our current release right now is 6.0.0 and i told someone not to upgrade their production to it yet, even though we have no known critical problems w/ it
18:06 < estranger> hexmonkey, oof
18:07 < asimon> The CredSSP update last week that broke remote desktop for unpatched users - has anyone confirmed that just doing windows updates on the server will fix that?
18:07 < hexmonkey> something about converting 32-bit chart data to 64-bit
18:07 < estranger> our new version is fucking awesome though, id say its our biggest release ever
18:07 < grumplestiltzkin> is it still standard to make the last digit in a version even if its stable and odd if its in testing?
18:08 < estranger> grumplestiltzkin, thats Tick Tock development.. not always that way
18:08 < estranger> err.. not quite testing though
18:08  * hexmonkey googles 'tick tock development'
18:08 < estranger> even is bug fixes + new features, odd is JSUT bug fixes
18:09 < estranger> so if you are at 1.4 and 1.5 has a bugfix you need you can safely upgraded w/o doing full stack testing
18:09 < estranger> then 1.6 might have breaking changes
18:09 < ihre> grumplestiltzkin: x.x.x is semver, major - minor - bug
18:10 < estranger> ihre, the last number can have a bit more meaning if it's tick tock though.. although you are 100% correct in what you said
18:10 < ihre> so 'new' software starts w/ 0.1.0, bug fix -> 0.1.1, continue
18:10 < scwizard> hmmmmmmmm
18:10 < scwizard> man and i thought my script worked so well
18:10 < scwizard> nope
18:10 < ihre> add more error checking :3
18:10 < scwizard> apparently there's no way to pass in null bytes via the command line in bash
18:10 < md5sumo> felda: if you must, this helps -> https://decentsecurity.com/enterprise/#/windows-7-fast-update/
18:11 < ihre> estranger: i'd assume tick tock does rc's or something like that?
18:11 < ihre> 1.5-rc1 or w/e
18:11 < hexmonkey> scwizard: rewrite in perl?
18:11 < ihre> lololol
18:11 < felda> md5sumo I'm not in any hurry so it is okay, but that link will probably save me in the future
18:11 < technonerd> Just be like npm and push dev into prod with just a version bump
18:12 < estranger> ihre, RC's dont typically follow tick tock.. RC is often a dev branch, tick tock is for the prod branch
18:12 < scwizard> hexmonkey: ikr :(
18:12 < estranger> i am seeing tick tock less and less... i think it was intel that came up with it?
18:12 < estranger> Cassandra used to be tick tock, think even that changed now
18:12 < hexmonkey> scwizard: rewrite in python?
18:13 < estranger> oh w. tick tock you typically dont backport fixes either.. its why a lot of oss projects used it =)
18:13 < estranger> life is easier when you can forget about old code
18:14 < scwizard> hexmonkey: well i wanted a script that would work on the packer docker image but
18:15 < hexmonkey> ergh
18:16 < hexmonkey> hashicorp
18:16 < estranger> DENIED
18:16 < ihre> fuck, I hate writing documentation, just 14 helm charts to go, ffs
18:16 < ihre> i need to automate that shit
18:17 < estranger> heh automate the docs for your automation layer
18:17  * hexmonkey googles 'helm charts'
18:17 < ihre> you should rename yourself to googlemonkey ;p
18:18  * hexmonkey googles 'how to rename myself'
18:18 < ihre> hrm
18:18 < estranger> its not that hard
18:18 < estranger> just go to your local social security office
18:18 < hexmonkey> ugh i'd rather punch myslef in the pants till i pass out
18:18 < sir_iw> Just updated a quote on a dell r530, they no longer have cheap sata hd's and the 15k sas are also missing, ram is 4x higher in price, quite weird
18:19 < estranger> hexmonkey, i dunno ever been to a SS Office? they arent so bad... better than the dmv
18:19 < hexmonkey> i was in the SS office for about 10 minutes once and that was one of the most depressing places i've ever been
18:19 < ihre> oh that is what i'm definitely not missing, having to shop around for quotes
18:19 < abakedapplepie>   ive had no problems with social security
18:19 < estranger> hexmonkey, lol but it was quick at least!
18:19 < abakedapplepie> generally its quick
18:19 < ihre> otoh, might still be better than writing documentation :P
18:19 < hexmonkey> this was about 10 years ago but still NOPE
18:20 < estranger> I dunno I view myself so far above everyone else (rightfully) that everywhere I go all I see is deplorable people
18:20 < hexmonkey> bunch of sad-looking zombies sitting around waiting for something
18:20 < hexmonkey> some with their like 12 kids that you know weren't belted in when they took the latino cab service over
18:21 < estranger> heh yeah :<
18:22 < hexmonkey> everything about the room was the very definition of 'built by the lowest bidder'
18:24 < aName> hexmonkey: Yeah, I had to apply for foodstamps years ago and the social services building looked like something out of a cold war film
18:24 < aName> hexmonkey: Like... dirty everything, cheap construction, burnt out lights... and obviously the people there are not having their best day
18:24 < hexmonkey> aName: that's pretty much it yeah
18:25 < hexmonkey> depressing in a deep, existential way
18:25 < aName> "So this is where I'm at"
18:26 < JFDkthx> does anyone else here yanny?
18:26 < aName> I didn't need it long, just to close the gap while I finished some things to advance my station in life.
18:26 < JFDkthx> why is everyone saying laurel.
18:26 < corn266> Cause it depends on the bass from your speaker
18:26 < JFDkthx> im using iems.
18:26 < JFDkthx> and i ear yanny
18:26 < corn266> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
18:27 < hexmonkey> JFDkthx: i refuse. it's some kind of mind-control device
18:27 < hexmonkey> it's the only explanation for why anyone seems to give the merest fraction of a fuck
18:27 < AnimalFarmPig> hexmonkey: it's been a dream of mine for some time to get on the social security disability, move to a middle-income country, and live a life of leisure. Would be worth going to a depressing building.
18:27 < corn266> JFDkthx: https://twitter.com/earthvessquotes/status/996390813939748864
18:28 < JFDkthx> hexmonkey: i saw it in here, then saw it on my newsfeed
18:28 < hexmonkey> AnimalFarmPig: middle-income country?
18:28 < JFDkthx> idk, seems like most people are just succumbing to peer pressure
18:28 < hexmonkey> yeah nope
18:28 < AnimalFarmPig> middle income countries are best countries
18:29 < AnimalFarmPig> better infrastructure than poor countries, better people than rich countries
18:29 < hexmonkey> AnimalFarmPig: am I naïve  to think that it's not possible to collect disability if you leave the country?
18:30 < AnimalFarmPig> hexmonkey: I've looked into it. It's allowed.
18:30 < hexmonkey> wow
18:30 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, ikr
18:30 < hexmonkey> so all i have to do is get into an accident at work and lose an eye or a couple of fingers?
18:31 < AnimalFarmPig> whatever, just get diagnosed with severe adhd or depression or something and start flaking out at work
18:31 < ebol4> me_irl
18:31 < AnimalFarmPig> ^
18:31 < hexmonkey> start flaking out
18:32 < hexmonkey> i was on the meds they give you when they diagnose you with acute depression. NOPE.
18:32 < hexmonkey> not again
18:32 < JFDkthx> you dont have to take them
18:32 < ebol4> i was on ssri's for a little while but those weren't doin it for me
18:32 < JFDkthx> just fake it till you make it hexmonkey
18:32 < hexmonkey> made me feel like those sorry bastards looked in the SS office
18:32 < hexmonkey> dead inside
18:32 < JFDkthx> you felt like a nazi?
18:33 < hexmonkey> haha
18:33 < hexmonkey> other ss
18:33 < ihre> vegeta and goku?
18:33 < md5sumo> holy crap! https://imgur.com/a/nY1Oxpw
18:33 < hexmonkey> ^^riskyclick
18:33 < JFDkthx> cryptic1: where l8 i dont know what links are posted
18:34 < giant_it_burrit> nice uptime
18:34 < mrghostman> 21 years
18:34 < mrghostman> wow
18:34 < AnimalFarmPig> damn, nice
18:34 < hexmonkey> 1997 damn
18:34 < vinrock> lol fuck you verizon
18:34 < vinrock> current wait time between 2h26m - 3h15m
18:35 < hexmonkey> wow so basically "fuck off"
18:35 < hexmonkey> current wait time between 'fuck you' and 'never'
18:37 < vinrock> the phone system mnight be fucked
18:37 < vinrock> i got someone on the phone in like 30s
18:37 < vinrock> v0v
18:39  * ravioli vs mouses in #donger btw fyi bbq
18:39 < JFDkthx> psh
18:39 < JFDkthx> who cares
18:40 < hexmonkey> so i bought my wife a new laptop at Best Buy and they talked me into a $50 Office365
18:40 < hexmonkey> but when i got home I remembered i already pay $99/year for O365
18:41 < corn266> damn that was a close game
18:41 < grumplestiltzkin> ice cubes to an eskimo style
18:41 < hexmonkey> think I can use it to extend?
18:42 < hexmonkey> it's in the form of a gift-card like object
18:45 < rcalcines> Hi Everyone
18:45 < rcalcines>   Im looking for the best webcam money is no limit these will be for large conference rooms
18:45 < sp000ky> If I want to say I'm fluent in a programming language, but not using the word "Fluent" what word am I looking for?
18:45 < sp000ky> Adept?
18:45 < hexmonkey> rcalcines: https://www.oblong.com
18:45 < JFDkthx> proficient
18:46 < sp000ky> JFDkthx, Thanks, that's what I was looking for. Just wouldn't come to me.
18:46 < rcalcines> Thanks
18:46 < JFDkthx> experienced
18:46 < JFDkthx> skilled
18:46 < abakedapplepie> well versed
18:46 < JFDkthx> sounds a little fluffy
18:46 < SynMonger> know stuff
18:46 < JFDkthx> good at it
18:46 < abakedapplepie> "i do things"
18:46 < ravioli> "good at python"
18:46 < hexmonkey> kicks ass at pythin
18:46 < abakedapplepie> PYTHON ROCKSTAR
18:46 < JFDkthx> pythern ninja
18:46 < SynMonger> wizard
18:47 < Casteil> my C# is better than my python lol
18:47 < hexmonkey> guru
18:47 < JFDkthx> scrum lord
18:47 < abakedapplepie> no
18:47 < ravioli> SynMonger: that's implied
18:47 < corn266> The HVAC air intake in my office is a constant drone of 70dB for the entire work day, I brought in some ear plugs today to see if those'll do the job
18:48 < scwizard> ok got the script working
18:48 < scwizard> http://vpaste.net/cyjR2
18:48 < scwizard> it turns out you can pass in HMAC keys as hexadecimal
18:48 < scwizard> it's just the means of doing so is slightly esoteric
18:49 < scwizard> so yeah bash can totally interface with the aws api lol
18:50 < hexmonkey> shift-insert instead of ctrl-v?
18:51 < JollyRgrs> corn266: geez, is your office in the middle of your DC with no walls?
18:51 < abakedapplepie> wow fuck that
18:51 < corn266> All walls no noise dampeners and one door
18:52 < abakedapplepie> also if it really is 70dB i'm pretty sure your company has to follow certain procedures to make you work in tht environment
18:52 < abakedapplepie> 70dB is loud lol
18:52 < corn266> It was floating around 68-70 on my phone sound meter
18:52 < hexmonkey> 70db is a vacuum cleaner
18:52 < hexmonkey> http://www.industrialnoisecontrol.com/comparative-noise-examples.htm
18:52 < technonerd> 85 db at 8 hours
18:53 < abakedapplepie> yeah for 8 hours a day Hemera
18:53 < abakedapplepie> hexmonkey
18:53 < ekaj> mfw I upgrade to the wrong version and appliance is slow, upgrade to correct version and half of appliance does work, so now I get to weigh the cons between the two
18:53 < abakedapplepie> osha would like to talk
18:53 < hexmonkey> abakedapplepie: not disagreeing, just pointing out a frame of reference
18:54 < abakedapplepie> oh ok
18:54 < corn266> On the bright side these ear plugs reduce noise by 32dB
18:54 < JFDkthx> i love closing out tickets
18:54 < hexmonkey> i used to work in a loud datacenter but the sound never bothered me
18:54 < JFDkthx> especially when it's something i can say NO U to.
18:55 < scwizard> corn266: do you work in a datacenter?
18:55 < corn266> Nope
18:55 < corn266> Office
18:55 < hexmonkey> i would get bored not being able to really hear anything so I'd listen to music in headphones
18:55 < abakedapplepie> thats asinine
18:55 < abakedapplepie> im sorry for you
18:55 < technonerd> I work in a datacenter repurposed as a work center
18:55 < JFDkthx> hexmonkey: i used to think it never bothered me either. until i kept hearing the whirring of fans after i left.
18:55 < scwizard> JFDkthx: i always like telling support people explicitly they can close a ticket, makes me feel like a generous person lol
18:55 < JFDkthx> now i have tinnitus.
18:55 < abakedapplepie> it probably shouldnt be that loud either
18:56 < JFDkthx> abakedapplepie: we have modelling clusters. they are always loud.
18:56 < corn266> Yea JFDkthx I had to buy some nice over ear headphones to hopefully prevent that from happening
18:56 < abakedapplepie> corn266: expense it
18:56 < technonerd> I sit next to an ac cooler :(
18:56 < abakedapplepie> srs
18:56 < JFDkthx> corn266: i had IEMs and just regular earpro on top of it.
18:56 < technonerd> Loud af
18:56 < hexmonkey> JFDkthx: i never really checked to see how loud it was. earplugs were available but i only ever used them if I was spending an extedned amount of time <10ft from a  cooling uit
18:56 < abakedapplepie> 100% srs
18:56 < hexmonkey> s/uit/unit/
18:58 < JFDkthx> the only time i didnt like wearing ear pro was when i came in at night
18:58 < hexmonkey> JFDkthx: why not
18:58 < JFDkthx> dc was dark. because of motion sensor lights, and i was always afraid of people sneaking up on me inbetween the aisles
18:58 < technonerd> Bogey man
18:58 < hexmonkey> hm
18:58 < JFDkthx> which did happen once
18:58 < abakedapplepie> lol
18:59 < hexmonkey> hashtag things I never thought about
18:59 < abakedapplepie> sounds like silicon valley
18:59 < JFDkthx> and i yelled at the kid that did it.
18:59 < abakedapplepie> and the dc troll at hooli
18:59 < JFDkthx> noc came down to check on me.
18:59 < hexmonkey> i had a jerky coworker sneak around the aisle once and shout my name
18:59 < JFDkthx> fucker
18:59 < abakedapplepie> i loved that DC they used in there
18:59 < abakedapplepie> so fucking ridiculously big
18:59 < abakedapplepie> pretty sure it was all cgi
19:00 < JFDkthx> hexmonkey: we would throw stress balls at each other.
19:00 < hexmonkey> abakedapplepie: pics or it didn't happen
19:00 < hexmonkey> JFDkthx: the short bus
19:00 < JFDkthx> real funny seeing someone jump out of their seat
19:00 < abakedapplepie> hexmonkey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uvdPDXaBPc
19:01 < JFDkthx> abakedapplepie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfr64zoBTAQ
19:02 < hexmonkey> yeah that's for effect, they don't even have the hot/cold aisles setup correctly
19:02 < abakedapplepie> theres another scene where they pan up over the whole farm and its just ridiculously over the top lol
19:03 < abakedapplepie> i have to catch up on the new season
19:04 < hexmonkey> at the DC where I used to work the rooms were large but the aisles were broken up by the cage separation
19:06 < ebol4> the guy next to me takes like 3-hour lunch breaks every day
19:07 < hexmonkey> at his desk?
19:07 < ebol4> he just leaves and eventually comes back
19:07 < ebol4> nah
19:07 < hexmonkey> I feel weird leaving my desk for 20 min to take a walk down to the coffee shop
19:08 < hexmonkey> and i've eaten lunch at my desk almost every day for ~13 years
19:08 < abakedapplepie> crazy
19:08 < ebol4> i also just eat at my desk
19:08 < abakedapplepie> i eat at my desk often, but i usually eat while i work
19:08 < abakedapplepie> i leave for my breaks
19:08 < ebol4> same
19:08 < hexmonkey> breaks?
19:08 < hexmonkey> what are those?
19:08 < abakedapplepie> lunch/whtever
19:08 < ebol4> i work while eating so i can justify leaving early
19:08 < abakedapplepie> ebol4 i used to be able to do that
19:09 < abakedapplepie> put the kibosh on leaving early
19:09 < hexmonkey> why would you eat at your desk and not work?
19:09 < ebol4> if they don't let me leave early then i'm taking my full lunch break and turning off my phone during it
19:09 < hexmonkey> hashtag malicious compliance?
19:16 < corn266> Anyone here manage devices with google device manager? I don't have access to our dashboard but would like to suggest we enable 2FA on all email accounts and use the google authenticator downloaded through the work user on our phones
19:18 < Lt_Lemming> hay giys... I can't figure out why my memories won't work.... https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/235051910145507328/446303140216832013/20180516_1943040.jpg
19:19 < abakedapplepie> ow
19:20 < corn266> You have a little corrosion, some coke should get it fixed in a jiffy
19:20 < silentfury> pretty sure google device manager is a paid addon
19:20 < Lt_Lemming> corn266, that's not corrosion... :-P
19:20 < ravioli> Lt_Lemming: try re-seating it, looks fine.
19:20 < abakedapplepie> thats fire
19:21 < abakedapplepie> lots of fire
19:21 < Lt_Lemming> abakedapplepie, close, but no cigar :-P
19:21 < abakedapplepie> wat
19:21 < vinrock> it is actually made on unobtanium
19:21 < vinrock> on/of
19:21 < Lt_Lemming> abakedapplepie, I dumped 2500V through it :-P
19:21 < vinrock> is that a strand of solder
19:21 < vinrock> like you were gona try fixing it
19:21 < abakedapplepie> Lt_Lemming: thats kind of what i figured
19:21 < abakedapplepie> but still fire
19:21 < abakedapplepie> lol
19:22 < abakedapplepie> i guess if you want to call it a rapid heating event we can go with that
19:22 < Lt_Lemming> heh
19:22 < Lt_Lemming> extremely rapdi
19:22 < Lt_Lemming> rapid*
19:22 < vinrock> in the news today is some dude getting killed by an exploding vape
19:22 < Lt_Lemming> it blew all 4 chips clean of the PCB, and delaminated the PCB
19:22 < vinrock> st petersburg, fl
19:22 < abakedapplepie> where did you get 2500V anywhere near a DIMM
19:22 < vinrock> did they make an audible pop sound
19:23 < Lt_Lemming> vinrock, it made a very audible bang
19:23 < vinrock> that rules
19:23 < abakedapplepie> probably a decent flash too
19:23 < Lt_Lemming> audible enough... that I made everyone put in hearing protection before hand
19:23 < Lt_Lemming> https://imgur.com/a/ZGSnt <--- the punishment device
19:23 < abakedapplepie> oh you did it on purpose
19:23 < abakedapplepie> thats not nearly as fun
19:23 < vinrock> mmm
19:23 < Lt_Lemming> abakedapplepie, yes, yes it is
19:23 < vinrock> cap bank
19:23 < abakedapplepie> that makes an awful lot of sense
19:24 < abakedapplepie> nice rig
19:24 < abakedapplepie> what did you build that for
19:24 < vinrock> you should make a railgun
19:24 < vinrock> you got half of it done
19:24 < ravioli> you have way too much time on your hands
19:24 < ravioli> i love it
19:24 < Lt_Lemming> the voltage on that bank is actually too high for it to be practical vinrock
19:24 < vinrock> no such thing as too much
19:24 < Lt_Lemming> I have another bank that is ideal,and it's on the cards for that one
19:24 < abakedapplepie> there is :P
19:24 < vinrock> thats like someone saying a car has too much horsepower
19:24 < vinrock> nonsense i says
19:24 < abakedapplepie> unless you have superconducting capability
19:25 < vinrock> ok get some ln2
19:25 < abakedapplepie> i always wanted to build a rail gun
19:25 < vinrock> poundMeToo
19:25 < asimon> ./report abakedapplepie --fbi
19:25 < abakedapplepie> i made a crude controller board for one once in high school
19:25 < vinrock> i want to make an emp gun
19:25 < abakedapplepie> we had 1000s of relays donated to the school
19:26 < vinrock> so i can blast the shitdicks playing with their cellphones during the evening commute
19:26 < abakedapplepie> never built a power supply though shits expensive
19:26 < vinrock> thousands of relays huh
19:26 < abakedapplepie> i have an odd assortment of large electrolytics but its all a mishmash
19:26 < vinrock> that could be worth a nice penny
19:26 < abakedapplepie> yeah
19:26 < abakedapplepie> they were nice relays too
19:26 < vinrock> just steal them shits and sell em on the black market
19:26 < vinrock> become a relay bandit
19:26 < abakedapplepie> i did take home a couple dozen
19:26 < abakedapplepie> this was 14 years ago i have no diea where that shit is now
19:26 < vinrock> bah
19:26 < Lt_Lemming> vinrock https://imgur.com/a/ikiuh
19:27 < vinrock> id made a dope ass light switch
19:27 < vinrock> have it go through like 100 relays every time you flip the lights on
19:27 < abakedapplepie> lol
19:27 < abakedapplepie> i love the sound of a ton of relays going off
19:27 < abakedapplepie> its awesome
19:27 < vinrock> hell yeah man
19:27 < Lt_Lemming> friend of mine and I are working on a 100% relay logic digital clock
19:27 < vinrock> manbun spotted
19:27 < abakedapplepie> that sounds expensive
19:27 < abakedapplepie> thats a lot of relays
19:27 < Lt_Lemming> not really
19:28 < vinrock> ok what am i seeing here
19:28 < abakedapplepie> fully discrete logic using relays?
19:28 < Lt_Lemming> about 100, and you can get small relays for like 20c
19:28 < vinrock> a cap bank, heating elements
19:28 < vinrock> ceramic enclosure?
19:28 < Lt_Lemming> HDPE
19:28 < Lt_Lemming> not ceramic
19:28 < vinrock> hdpe can take high heat?
19:28 < vinrock> naw shit
19:28 < abakedapplepie> Lt_Lemming: what do you do, professionally
19:28 < Lt_Lemming> not going to get that hot
19:29 < abakedapplepie> that looks like a neat shop you have
19:29 < Lt_Lemming> abakedapplepie, sysadmin/bofh :-P
19:29 < abakedapplepie> can i uhh
19:29 < abakedapplepie> come work for you
19:29 < Lt_Lemming> that's not my work :-P
19:29 < Lt_Lemming> I WISH it was
19:30 < vinrock> ok fill me in wtf is this thing gona be
19:30 < abakedapplepie> oh
19:30 < abakedapplepie> makerspace?
19:30 < Lt_Lemming> yup
19:30 < vinrock> looks like a heater
19:30 < ravioli> s/heat/dong
19:30 < Lt_Lemming> vinrock, the heater element looking things are resistors
19:30 < vinrock> whoa
19:30 < Lt_Lemming> discharge bank for the big red caps
19:30 < Lt_Lemming> 2 ohms at 16KW
19:30 < abakedapplepie> hah.
19:30 < abakedapplepie> hahah.
19:30 < abakedapplepie> damn.
19:31 < Lt_Lemming> aim is to safely discharge the bank in <300ms
19:31 < vinrock> i was wondering wtf it was
19:31 < abakedapplepie> how hot does that get
19:31 < vinrock> "man, my feet are cold and i wat them warm NOW"
19:31 < Lt_Lemming> abakedapplepie, it's gonna get warm
19:31 < Lt_Lemming> it's actually going to see an initial 60KW
19:31 < Lt_Lemming> but it has enough thermal mass to absorb the pulse
19:31 < Lt_Lemming> 350V at 175A
19:32 < abakedapplepie> that is obscene
19:32 < Lt_Lemming> the other bank does >10MW pulses
19:32 < Lt_Lemming> 2500V at >4000A
19:32 < abakedapplepie> thats honestly impressive and that cap bank doesnt even look that massive
19:33 < Lt_Lemming> the red bank is theoretically capable of 240'000A pulses....
19:34 < abakedapplepie> i can only imagine the racket that shit makes
19:34 < abakedapplepie> i blew a 100kva 120v transformer and that was probably the loudest bang ive ever  heard in my life
19:34 < Lt_Lemming> it's a little loud :-P
19:35 < abakedapplepie> and that probably wasnt more than 750A or so
19:38 < Lt_Lemming> I've seen a 40KVA generator sieze, move 5 feet sideways and cause the three phase bus bars to short out
19:38 < Lt_Lemming> that... was impressive
19:38 < Lt_Lemming> blew the mains fuses for the entire building
19:38 < Lt_Lemming> and some of the buildings nearby
19:39 < vinrock> i wonder if you could like
19:39 < vinrock> discharge the cap bank into uh
19:39 < vinrock> mayube some carbon eectrodes
19:39 < vinrock> behind a bigass horn
19:39 < vinrock> and make a window breaker
19:40 < vinrock> SONIC
19:40 < vinrock> BOOM!
19:40 < vinrock> that would be rad
19:41 < Lt_Lemming> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuiwhcsfAQM
19:41 < Lt_Lemming> probably the loudest one we've ever done
19:41 < hexmonkey> was the movement what shorted the bus bars?
19:41 < Lt_Lemming> hexmonkey, cables to the generator pulled the bars across
19:41 < hexmonkey> wow
19:41 < hexmonkey> so that's why they told us to stay out of the genset room at the datacenter
19:42 < vinrock> aw man
19:42 < vinrock> you gotta try that with an HID bulb
19:44 < JFDkthx> mother fucker
19:44 < JFDkthx> fucking drink is out of date by three fucking months
19:44 < JFDkthx> god fucking dammit
19:44 < hexmonkey> JFDkthx: is it milk?
19:44 < JFDkthx> fucking lazy ass fucking vendors to fucking stupid to rotate their fucking products
19:44 < technonerd> Refers to yogurt xkcd
19:44 < JFDkthx> hexmonkey: coffee with malk
19:45 < hexmonkey> JFDkthx: does it taste bad? I'd guess it was made with that hyperpasteurized stuff that almost isn't really milk anymore
19:45 < corn266> If you drink it I'll go and drink a 4 year old mountain dew
19:46 < JFDkthx> hexmonkey: aint werf it. i get sick from everything as it is.
19:46 < JFDkthx> toss it in the trash and do a chargeback on my card.
19:46 < hexmonkey> allergic to stuff?
19:47 < hexmonkey> that sucks
19:47 < JFDkthx> i have the intestinal fortitude of a pool noodle.
19:47 < hexmonkey> women do often get IBS
19:47 < grumplestiltzkin> things in sealed cans generally don't actually 'expire'  like, unless the can is bulged out, which means it probably has botulism.     the stuff inside might degrade a bit, maybe lose a bit of flavor/color/texture/nutritional value, but shouldn't ever be unsafe .   unless botulism
19:47 < JFDkthx> it hurts all of us hexmonkey
19:47 < hexmonkey> haha
19:48 < JFDkthx> grumplestiltzkin: im not gonna drink 2 mo expired milk product. because that shit was probably bottled 4-5 months ago.
19:48 < abakedapplepie> or longer
19:48 < vinrock> jfd drink it and sue
19:49 < vinrock> thats the american way
19:49 < JFDkthx> vinrock: i'll spill it in my lap
19:49 < vinrock> be a patriot
19:49 < mrghostman> something oddly satisfying about this "cold start" vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksURKp5IYVc&feature=youtu.be&t=70
19:49 < hexmonkey> put a half a mouse inside for effect
19:49 < JFDkthx> hexmonkey: and a finger
19:49 < JFDkthx> with chili
19:49 < vinrock> a loose clockspring wont hurt either
19:49 < hexmonkey> sorry I mean, *find* a half a mouse
19:49 < JFDkthx> i fucking found glass in my salsa once.
19:49 < JFDkthx> that pissed me off.
19:50 < vinrock> diesel cold start videos are great
19:50 < vinrock> you should watch a russian train cold starting in siberia
19:50 < vinrock> flames n shit son
19:50 < mrghostman> nice
19:50 < corn266> Come on JFDkthx let's do this https://imgur.com/a/rHyzDYX
19:50 < JFDkthx> an old lada engine is starting; vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv vvvvvvvvvvv vvvvvv vvv
19:50 < JFDkthx> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smndCQGZCLk
19:51 < vinrock> look at that hamfist
19:51 < JFDkthx> corn266: imgur is blocked
19:51 < hexmonkey> i made the mistake of putting sugar in the coffee i got from the place downstairs yuck
19:51 < corn266> 4 year old mt dew proof
19:51 < JFDkthx> shits already in the can
19:51 < JFDkthx> corn266: but you should go LA beast on it
19:51 < vinrock> 100%
19:52 < vinrock> he drank a 23 year old ecto cooler
19:52 < hexmonkey> hahaha
19:52 < vinrock> shit was black
19:52 < JFDkthx> and the pepsi clear
19:52 < hexmonkey> STEVE DON'T EAT IT
19:52 < vinrock> and cvost like $350
19:52 < vinrock> dude la beast is actually the person responsible for bringing crystal pepsi back
19:52 < vinrock> a fine jersey native that man is
19:53 < hexmonkey> corn266 is retrojunk?
19:53 <@Code_Man65> So for those who care, I am now collecting data for use with DSC and storing it in a DB and then using that data to build the ConfigurationData
19:53 < giant_it_burrit> Code_Man65: explain
19:53 < corn266> hexmonkey: is something my coworker brought in when he started working here and forgot about until recently
19:54 < vinrock> good job code_man65
19:54 <@Code_Man65> giant_it_burrit:  I'm collecting the data necessary to do encrypted credentials in DSC (cert thumbprint, cert file) along with populating other information from the servers name and description, storing that data in a DB and then using the data from that DB to build the ConfigurationData for DSC.
19:55 < giant_it_burrit> ooooooooooooooo
19:55 < hexmonkey> i made the mistake of buying a 31 inch monitor to replace my 2x-19"-monitor setup
19:55 < hexmonkey> 1920x1080
19:55 < corn266> ew
19:55 < JFDkthx> you dont like it?
19:55 < JFDkthx> is it an ultrawide?
19:55 < hexmonkey> not at 1080p
19:55 <@Code_Man65> I have a 1440p 24" monitor at home
19:55 <@Code_Man65> All via PS.
19:56 < JFDkthx> ah
19:56 < JFDkthx> i wouldnt mind a monitor that size if it was an ultrawide.
19:56 < hexmonkey> it's lower res per inch than my two-monitor setup I think
19:56 < vinrock> i went from a pair of 22" 1080 displays to a pair of 24" 4k ips displays
19:56 < hexmonkey> unless I'm doing the math wrong
19:56 < vinrock> it's pretty slick
19:57 < hexmonkey> no wonder the 31 was only $150
19:57 < JFDkthx> yeah at that size it's just like a shitty tv
19:58 < hexmonkey> it's fine for what it is, TBH
19:58 < ravioli> i should convince my work to buy me an htc vive and i'll use desktopVR
19:58 < hexmonkey> just not quite what I was expecting
20:00 < abakedapplepie> my fil got one for work to do robot simulations
20:00 < abakedapplepie> and play viya gamez
20:00 < vinrock> ravioli im waiting for the hololens to mature so i can fenagle my company to get me one
20:00 < vinrock> 'guys i totally need tow work in 3d'
20:01 < syere> You need to pitch it better. "Look, you guys know how good I am working outside the computer, imagine what I could do INSIDE the computer!"
20:01 < ravioli> "it's called 'mixed reality'. look, see these papers on my desk? with my hololens, i can /pick up/ and /move/ the papers around my desk!"
20:01 < ravioli> "uhh but ravioli those are just regular pieces of paper on your desk"
20:02 < vinrock> "but i can also have a floating shark in my office and that helps with ptsd"
20:02 < vinrock> "you have ptsd?"
20:02 < vinrock> "no but i will if i cant have a floating shark"
20:02 < vinrock> SOLD
20:02 < syere> I can see a lot of really strong cases for augmented reality. I would be nice to have a few pieces of white paper on my walls that when I looked at, either displayed logs or one of my monitoring apps
20:02 < hexmonkey> or just get a monitor
20:02 < ravioli> that'd be neat but why not just tape an ipad to the wall
20:03 < hexmonkey> also why do they gotta be white
20:03 < vinrock> dude i would turn my whole office into a gigantic corkboard
20:03 < hexmonkey> TRIGGR'D
20:03 < vinrock> fuck filing
20:03 < vinrock> never again
20:03 < ravioli> or a kindle/paper-like display
20:03 < syere> That's kinda the point of augmented reality. I dont need another monitor or device, I just need something that knows when I look at it, display X, and if I do a movement, change it or something
20:04 < hexmonkey> i think that's called a monitor and a mouse
20:04 < SynMonger> I can't wait for "glassholes" to come back in to use
20:04 < syere> i'm at 3, and I'm not a NOC tech. can't get approved for more
20:04 < hexmonkey> get a mezzanine system
20:04 < hexmonkey> http://www.oblong.com/
20:05 < hexmonkey> develpoed by the folks who made up that Minority Report display
20:05 < syere> that wouldn't fit in my cube xD
20:05 < hexmonkey> we have it in our conference room in NYC
20:05 < syere> I bet that's nice
20:05 < giant_it_burrit> hexmonkey: get outta my city
20:05 < giant_it_burrit> reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
20:06 < hexmonkey> giant_it_burrit: remember that guy that time who was all "i've been in NYC twice and I aknow it's crap"
20:06 <@killdash9> he wasn't wrong though
20:06 < hexmonkey> "i don't need to see more"
20:07 < syere> I wouldn't say it's crap, but I know NY isn't for me. To busy
20:07 < aName> Anyone taken the Meraki webinar for the 8p switch?
20:07 < aName> How long is it?
20:07 < syere> aName: I did!
20:07 < syere> it's a hour
20:07 < syere> it'll take 4-6 weeks to get to you
20:07 <@killdash9> I've been dozens of times and while it has it's charms I'd never live there.
20:07 < syere> and you have to annoy the crap out of your rep
20:07 < aName> my rep, lol
20:07 < syere> you get assigned one when you sign up
20:07 < aName> We have no intention of purchasing them but my boss says I can use my company email and title to get one for my homelab
20:07 < syere> they'll email you before the seminar
20:08 < syere> aName: Also sign up for the security appliance and the AP
20:08 < syere> you'll probably get 2 out of 3 devices
20:08 < aName> Werd.
20:08 < syere> I did all three, only got the switch and the security appliance
20:08 < aName> I've already got a nice cisco AP
20:08 < hexmonkey> killdash9: too expensive to live there
20:09 < aName> Not as nice as the Ubiquiti ones, but hey
20:09 < aName> Still nice
20:09 < syere> free is free. the AP can also be flashed with openwrt if you ever need to make a wireless bridge
20:09 < aName> Ooh, nice.
20:10 < chernobylchild69> hi guys
20:10 < hexmonkey> chernobylchild69: o/
20:12 < chernobylchild69> ive been hit with a slight wave of depression
20:13 < SynMonger> I was looking at doing the webinar for the AP, didn't know they offered a switch and security appliance
20:13 < giant_it_burrit> yup
20:14 < giant_it_burrit> i used it at home for a time
20:15 < chernobylchild69> hey giant_it_burrit
20:15 < chernobylchild69> how are you bro
20:16 < hexmonkey> i overheard the word 'creampie' being used in conversation a few cubicles over
20:16 < hexmonkey> i snickered
20:19 < hexmonkey> yikes florida man died after his exploding vape shoots shrapnel into his head and sets his house on fire
20:20 < mrghostman> damn florida man
20:20 < hexmonkey> remember when cigarettes could kill you and vaping was safe?
20:20 < JFDkthx> he probably modded it for max vape
20:20 < grumplestiltzkin> sounds like natural selection is working
20:20 < JFDkthx> seriously did he have a gas powered vape or some shit
20:20 < hexmonkey> who's Max Vape? is he a rapper or somethign?
20:21 < JFDkthx> i didnt realize that they could explode, other than just a battery catastrophically failing from a short.
20:21 < JFDkthx> even then, isnt that just a really hot fire.
20:21 < JFDkthx> like my latest album
20:21 < hexmonkey> lithium battery probably grenaded itself when it failed
20:22 < JFDkthx> also, nothing is more annoying than a whining capacitor.
20:22 < JFDkthx> holy shit
20:22 < JFDkthx> ima find it and rip it out
20:22 < hexmonkey> "iiii'm hungryyyy, i want a cookie"
20:22 < JFDkthx> fixed it
20:22 < JFDkthx> gave it the ol left boot right boot
20:22 < hexmonkey> 'iiii'm boooorred'
20:23 < hexmonkey> 'the mosfet is on my side of the PCB!'
20:24 < JFDkthx> and, everyone has left for the day at 1424 local
20:24 < JFDkthx> time for memes
20:24 < hexmonkey> hahaha
20:25 < abakedapplepie> JFDkthx: not even so much a fire, its just hot gasses
20:25 < abakedapplepie> hot enough to combust most things like cotton and paper
20:25 < JFDkthx> skin
20:25 < abakedapplepie> explosion sounds like it was sealed somehow
20:25 < abakedapplepie> i wouldnt be surprised to find out its some sort of custom rig
20:25 < abakedapplepie> high powered something or other
20:26 < JFDkthx> i doubt the case was sealed enough for  pressure
20:26 < JFDkthx> unless it had a "water" seal
20:26 < abakedapplepie> some mech mods seal the battery in a metal tube
20:26 < JFDkthx> for the batt
20:26 < abakedapplepie> i could see one of those building enough pressure to shoot a threaded end cap off
20:26 < abakedapplepie> at rather high velocity
20:26 < JFDkthx> maybe that then.
20:26 < grumplestiltzkin> that story.  the dudes vape had a frigging flux capacitor
20:27 < hexmonkey> tampa bay times has the story
20:27 < JFDkthx> it was probably tsarbomba thats why he aint here
20:27 < JFDkthx> he ded
20:30 < hexmonkey> asploded
20:38 < felda> most content your grandma posts to your facebook page is actually abakedapplepie shitposting his feelings
20:39 < felda> he just wishes you called him more sweaty
20:39 < JFDkthx> sweaty
20:39 < JFDkthx> good one felderp
20:39 < felda>  /r/forwardsfromgrandma does actually trigger me a little
20:39 < hexmonkey> my grandma died in 9/11
20:39 < felda> Nice!
20:39 < JFDkthx> not a fan of insanepeoplefacebook?
20:40 < felda> that one is pretty good
20:42 < DomLS3> --/r/pfsenseisgarbage is pretty good
20:42 < ThatOneRoadie> seems legit
20:43 < felda> DomLS3 you'll never amount to anything in life and your personality is trash
20:44 < DomLS3> Code_Man65
20:44 < JFDkthx> Ocean_Man
20:44 < DomLS3> this is not acceptable behavior
20:44 <@Code_Man65> You just didn't care for felda's sick burn
20:44 < hexmonkey> there he is
20:45 < felda> trash my dream and i'll trash UR LIFE
20:45 < hexmonkey> oh nice apparently someone came into the office with pinkeye today
20:46 < DomLS3> Code_Man65: it was a mediocre burn... at best
20:46 < DomLS3> burning PFSENSE to the ground would be a far superior burn
20:47 < felda> DomLS3 you have no purpose in life and wonder if anyone could love you
20:47 < DomLS3> felda: your mom loves me
20:47 < JollyRgrs> ok, srs q here...
20:47 < grumplestiltzkin> felda's on fire
20:47 < hexmonkey> JollyRgrs: 42
20:47 < JollyRgrs> they (powers above me) set in some older win7 images to disable the autotuning in TCPIP
20:47 < JollyRgrs> they want us to push a script to do: netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=normal
20:47 <@Code_Man65> WTF, why?
20:47 < JFDkthx> you guys ever get that muscle twitch in your eye
20:47 < JollyRgrs> Code_Man65: prob from back in win2k days or something
20:48 < DomLS3> autotuning has fucked with throughput
20:48 < DomLS3> I've seen it first hand
20:48 < JollyRgrs> anyways... is there a reg key i can change and just set in GPO vs having to run a logon script?
20:48 < felda> JFDkthx me
20:48 < JFDkthx> felda: ever get that shit in the bridge of your nose?
20:48 <@Code_Man65> I'm pretty sure there is a GPO setting for it
20:48 < JFDkthx> in the spot between your eyes
20:48 < JFDkthx> that shit is annoying
20:48 < JFDkthx> and it tickles.
20:48 < grumplestiltzkin> JFDkthx: usually when some developer implemented something without any input beforehand, and now has issues
20:48 < DomLS3> JollyRgrs: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSKTXQ_9.0.1/admin/install/inst_chat_win2008_disable_tcp_global.html
20:49 < felda> JFDkthx nah
20:49 < JFDkthx> grumplestiltzkin: bro let me tell you about one of our labs that bought two fucking dell powervaults with a force10 switch
20:49 < felda> I tend to get it in my upper arms, fore arms, fingers, thighs, calves, and feet
20:49 <@Code_Man65> Yeah, just set the registry key via gpprefs JollyRgrs
20:49 < JFDkthx> no 10gb sfps or anything and wondering why they dont have fast fucking transfers.
20:49 < JFDkthx> felda: yee me too.
20:50 < felda> JFDkthx gotta eat more bananas and chicken nuggets to get S T R O N K muscles
20:50 <@Code_Man65> Anyway, afk for meetings
20:50 < JollyRgrs> Code_Man65: what's the reg key though?
20:50 < JollyRgrs> that's what i'm trying to discover
20:51 <@Code_Man65> SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\WinHttp\TcpAutotuning
20:51 < hxcsp> why am i still reading insanepeoplefacebook
20:51 < hxcsp> wtf
20:51 < ravioli> felda is the greatest
20:51 < JollyRgrs> thx
20:51 <@Code_Man65> For the same reason people visit peopleofwalmart hxcsp
20:51 <@Code_Man65> It is a train wreck you can't look away from
20:52 <@Code_Man65> Now, I'm afk
20:52 < hxcsp> stop killing my productivity guys
20:52 < JollyRgrs> Code_Man65: i was missing it b/c i was in the system/currentcontrolset/services/tcpip area
20:52 < felda> ravioli is the greatest
20:53 < JFDkthx> felda: ive got two bunches of naners on my counter at home
20:54 < felda> make some banana bread
20:54 < ravioli> banana bread is the greatest
20:55 < SynMonger> zucchini bread > banana bread
20:55 < ravioli> bant
20:55 < SynMonger> fite me
20:55 < ravioli> #donger
20:56 < ravioli> unless ur a chicken
20:59 < catbeard> https://twitter.com/expectproblems/status/996533435945517056
20:59 < abakedapplepie> wheres my unifi homies at
20:59 < abakedapplepie> has anyone seen unifi detect one of its own APs as a rogue device
20:59 < abakedapplepie> ???
21:00 < corn266> fite me ravioli
21:02 < DomLS3> ravioli: check #donger
21:09 < vinrock> a rogue device
21:09 < vinrock> wat
21:09 < vinrock> just set-inform on the ap
21:09 < dragonfleas> what's a good way to have offsite backups for DR
21:09 < dragonfleas> our upload isn't good enough for cloud
21:09 < JFDkthx> tapes
21:09 < dragonfleas> so it has to be physical
21:10 < vinrock> then toss em as hard as you can into the woods
21:10 < dragonfleas> how much does a small tape drive cost?
21:10 < JFDkthx> depends.
21:10 < JFDkthx> how much are you trying to back up
21:10 < vinrock> how slow is your upload
21:10 < JFDkthx> whats your restore time
21:10 < dragonfleas> upload is 10 mbps
21:10 < vinrock> how big is your backup set
21:10 < dragonfleas> initial backup would be about 20 tb
21:10 < JFDkthx> oof
21:10 < vinrock> yowza
21:10 < JFDkthx> is it just for cold storage
21:11 < dragonfleas> it's just for DR
21:11 < dragonfleas> like
21:11 < vinrock> the initial upload sucks with that slow up a uplink but after that the incremental backups wouldnt be horrific if its normal business shit
21:11 < dragonfleas> if a tornado fucking destroys our whole building
21:11 < JFDkthx> vinrock: he could seed it.
21:11 < vinrock> i had to deal with 10mb/s upload but only had 1.5TB
21:11 < dragonfleas> for some reason business cable COX internet isn't symmetrical
21:11 < abakedapplepie> vinrock: its not detecting it as rogue anymore. the AP was isolated for a brief time and thats when it triggered it. but i dont understand why the controller software didnt at least recognize its own AP's mac address
21:11 < vinrock> thats the norm
21:12 < dragonfleas> sigh, i wish we had verizon in this area
21:12 < xamithan> That would only take you about 7 months if you maxed the upload
21:12 < dragonfleas> they have symmetrical for cheap
21:12 < vinrock> i just got gigabit fios here
21:12 < vinrock> its amazeballs
21:12 < JFDkthx> xamithan: or you know, he could just fucking seed it.
21:12 < dragonfleas> yeah gigabit is an option but would require a fiber line be ran to all of our sites and that would be $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
21:12 < JFDkthx> for amazon glacier type shit they send you a device to copy eerything into.
21:12 < xamithan> seed it?  Like plan tit in the ground?
21:12 < vinrock> whoa
21:12 < JFDkthx> then you just do incrementals from there.
21:12 < vinrock> i never heard of that
21:12 < vinrock> thats rad
21:13 < dragonfleas> wait really????
21:13 < vinrock> i backup to s3 then age shit into glacier
21:13 < dragonfleas> wtf is amazon glacier
21:13 < vinrock> long term cold storage
21:13 < xamithan> Their cold storage cheap
21:13 < JFDkthx> foofle it you nerd
21:13 < SynMonger> first one I saw that would do that was crashplan, nice that amazon can do that, too
21:13 < dragonfleas> crashplan is fucking garbage
21:13 < dragonfleas> i hate that software
21:13 < dragonfleas> MSP old man thought it was god's gift to earth
21:13 < dragonfleas> fucking didn't work and was slow 99% of the time
21:14 < vinrock> glacier is nice because i can have a brazillion versions without it costing an arm & leg
21:14 < JFDkthx> either way, if you dont have the bandwidth and dont want to mess with the cloud, export it to tape.
21:14 < giant_it_burrit> how many is a brazillion
21:14 < SynMonger> I used it for my personal backups for awhile but gave up on it
21:14 < vinrock> 1 with a brazillion 0's
21:14 < dragonfleas> brazzers
21:14 < JFDkthx> have tapes in a safe deposit box.
21:14 < JFDkthx> bingo bango bonga
21:14 < dragonfleas> JFDkthx, that's kind of that route i want to take, but I'm not sure how much a tape drive costs
21:14 < vinrock> if you're forced to go physical media there should be a backup storage service in your area
21:15 < JFDkthx> https://www.amazon.com/StoreEver-LTO-7-Ultrium-External-BB874A/dp/B019DMRFSA
21:15 < vinrock> you leave the tapes out at the end of the day and they pick em up and bring em to the secure facility
21:15 < dragonfleas> we have an old tape drive but i think it's old standard
21:15 < JFDkthx> https://www.tapeandmedia.com/lto-7-tape-media-tapes.asp
21:15 < vinrock> iron mountain has this service if they are local
21:15 < JFDkthx> you can get them cheaper from a var probably.
21:15 < JFDkthx> fuck iron mountain.
21:15 < JFDkthx> wait
21:15 < dragonfleas> previous IT guy was an idiot
21:15 < JFDkthx> no
21:15 < vinrock> i like iron mountain
21:15 < JFDkthx> uh
21:15 < JFDkthx> fuck sun something
21:15 < dragonfleas> and we bought a fuck ton of hard drives for cold storage
21:15 < dragonfleas> i was like dude
21:15 < vinrock> wat
21:15 < dragonfleas> now we're sitting on a bunch of enterprise hard drives
21:16 < dragonfleas> that aren't in use
21:16 < vinrock> slang em on the streets
21:16 < dragonfleas> lol
21:16 < vinrock> i got drives, yo
21:16 < dragonfleas> i put all the 6 TB ones in our NAS
21:16 < dragonfleas> booted a raid 5
21:16 < JFDkthx> wanna do it for dirt cheap
21:16 < dragonfleas> and now we have a central location for backups
21:16 < SynMonger> LTO8 is what, 12TB now?
21:16 < vinrock> ew raid 5
21:16 < JFDkthx> create a VTL and export it to some shiity nas
21:16 < JFDkthx> theres your backup
21:16 < dragonfleas> vinrock, i have to do raid 5 because it's only a 4 bay, raid 6 would be shitty capacity
21:17 < vinrock> i only do 1/0 now
21:17 < dragonfleas> raid 10 is fine
21:17 < vinrock> since hdd's come in bigass sizes now
21:17 < dragonfleas> but we don't have a big enough NAS for that
21:18 < xamithan> pick up one of those cheap DAS
21:18 < SynMonger> when has the previous IT guy been a genius?
21:20 < dragonfleas> holy fuck
21:20 < dragonfleas> new dell powervaults are expensive as fuck
21:20 < dragonfleas> let me check what LTO version we have on the retired one
21:20 < hexmonkey> what the crapfuck
21:20 < hexmonkey> turd
21:21 < JFDkthx> SynMonger: when it was me
21:21 < hexmonkey> Debian 9 VM has crashed twice in about 3 days
21:21 < JFDkthx> CUZ ITS DEBIAN REEEEEEEEEEEEE
21:21 < dragonfleas> SynMonger, fair assumption there, he was good at some stuff, had more knowledge than me but lacked knowledge in best practices, did a lot of rube goldberging
21:21 < hexmonkey> both times it has no errors on console but it's unresponsive
21:21 < hexmonkey> logs show ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^
21:22 < hexmonkey> vmware graph shows the CPU goes up but disk goes to zero
21:22 < dragonfleas> i think it's LTO3
21:23 < dragonfleas> yeah LTO3 drives are only 800GB
21:23 < dragonfleas> -__________-
21:24 < hexmonkey> what the hell would make a VM just randomly drop disk mount
21:27 < ThatOneRoadie> absurdly high i/o latency?
21:28 < vinrock> preposterously high!
21:28 < vinrock> sypendously high!
21:28 < vinrock> damnit
21:28 < vinrock> fucked that one up
21:29 < SynMonger> ludicrously high
21:31 < ebol4> it's a psychobilly freakout
21:33 < hexmonkey> nope, io isn't that high
21:34 < hexmonkey> actually just recently migrated this server vm away from a host that had high disk activity
21:35 < hexmonkey> cd /etc/
21:35 < hexmonkey> nothing weird there
21:36 < hexmonkey> logs have the null char like the disk was dropped but it wanted to write log
21:49 < scwizard> the worst thin about gitlab
21:49 < scwizard> is you do a push
21:49 < scwizard> and sometimes it just hangs
21:50 < scwizard> like at: Writing objects: 100% (4/4), 433 bytes | 0 bytes/s, done.
21:50 < scwizard> does that for like 5 precious seconds
21:54 < scwizard> Invalid policy description. Can only contain alphanumeric characters, or any of the following: +=,.@-_
21:54 < scwizard> what the fuck is this bullshit
21:54 < scwizard> heaven forbid i document my iam policies
22:08 < vinrock> your iam policy is
22:08 < vinrock> gay
22:08 < vinrock> GOTEM
22:08 < MillerBOSS> Hmm https://twitter.com/SenMarkey/status/996839415258537986
22:08 < MillerBOSS> BREAKING: The Senate just voted to restore #NetNeutrality! We won.
22:08 < MillerBOSS> To all of those who kept fighting and didn’t get discouraged: you did this. You raised your voices and we heard you. Thank you.
22:08 < MillerBOSS> Now the fight continues. On to the House!
22:09 < Casteil> yeah, shame it's never going to pass the house
22:10 < Casteil> republicans are far too emboldened/galvanized against "liberal" interests now to be able to stand back and think about the interests of the people
22:10 < scwizard> #reddit-sysadmin: Home of r/sysadmin | No Trolling, No Politics | Can't speak? Register! https://goo.gl/Pp1KQj | +v changes: https://goo.gl/Z6LRtP | New? Try#reddit-sysadmin-support | /r/sysadmingaming | http://quotes.rsysadmin.net/ | Keep it safe for work.
22:11 < scwizard> oops i seem to have accidentally pasted the channel's motd
22:11 < felda> cryptic1 can we get a ban on scwizard for trolling and spamming chat?
22:11 < scwizard> Kappa
22:11 < felda> MonkAS
22:12 < felda> we twitch chat now
22:12 < MillerBOSS> https://www.techmeme.com/180516/p22#a180516p22 Hacker breaches Securus, a controversial firm enabling real-time warrantless cell location tracking for cops, and gives access to clients' data to reporter
22:12 < JFDkthx> omegalul
22:12 < JFDkthx> omegalul
22:13 < Casteil> rofl @ Dell UK
22:13 < Casteil> finally releases the new XPS 15 9570
22:13 < Casteil> NO OPTION FOR 16GB RAM
22:13 < ThatOneRoadie> well yeah
22:13 < ThatOneRoadie> obvs you need 32GB
22:13 < Casteil> goes straight from 8GB to 32GB and no option to upgrade the 8GB ones to 16
22:13 < MillerBOSS> THat is what there is http://downloadmoreram.com/
22:13 < hexmonkey> i can let you borrow my soldering iron
22:14 < Casteil> it's not even soldered
22:14 < Jekotia> Trying to find a reliable alternative to cheap Windows tablets, since they run like shit. Literally all it needs is to run on battery, be able to connect to a wireless network, connect to USB or bluetooth barcode scanners, and then SSH into our central server for an 80's terminal UX. Thoughts?
22:14 < Casteil> it's user replaceable
22:14 < Casteil> but they don't offer the option to buy it with 16GB of ram
22:14 < giant_it_burrit> android
22:14 < hexmonkey> Jekotia: ipad pro 12"
22:14 < Casteil> or a 512GB SSD either
22:14 < Jekotia> hexmonkey: That's like 4 times the cost
22:15 < hexmonkey> you said reliable alternative, you didn't mention cost
22:15 < MillerBOSS> reliable and cheap
22:15 < hexmonkey> heh
22:15 < MillerBOSS> :P
22:15 < hexmonkey> good luck
22:15 < MillerBOSS> :)
22:15 < Jekotia> Oh, right. Dammit.
22:15 < MillerBOSS> lol
22:15 < ThatOneRoadie> Jekotia, Raspberry Pi, LCD or E-ink screen, bt keyboard
22:16 < MillerBOSS> Not a bad idea there
22:16 < Jekotia> I was hoping the fact that it can run linux would help, but I can't even find cheap-ass notebooks for that
22:16 < DomLS3> >running linux
22:16 < ThatOneRoadie> Pi
22:16 < hexmonkey> whoa whoa whoa how is a respi reliable?
22:16 < DomLS3> Windows > Linux
22:16 < ThatOneRoadie> Pi Pi Pi
22:16 < hexmonkey> raspi
22:16 < ThatOneRoadie> hexmonkey, I've been running a pi via PoE in my server rack as my Haas controller and Unifi controller for upwards of 3 years now
22:17 < hexmonkey> power blip and you've corrupted your sd card
22:17 < ThatOneRoadie> narry a hiccup
22:17  * MillerBOSS waits till DomLS3's network gets hit because Windows update was disabled back in ww2
22:17 < JollyRgrs> hexmonkey: a pepsi is very reliable unless it is a fountain drink, then it depends on who did the mixture settings
22:17 < Jekotia> I had thought of the raspberry pi, but the problem is the SD card and power loss. Some of these would be mounted to forkiifts, running on an inverter (which only powers the inverter when the machine is actively running)
22:17 < ThatOneRoadie> if your sd card is corrupt on a raspi after a power blip, your OS options are wrong
22:17 < hexmonkey> ThatOneRoadie: proof of that?
22:18 < ThatOneRoadie> Jekotia, RasPi and LiPoPi: https://github.com/NeonHorizon/lipopi
22:18 < ThatOneRoadie> hexmonkey, I have a stratux (http://stratux.me/) running on a Pi 2B that I've been very hard on for power
22:18 < ThatOneRoadie> unplugs while running without graceful shutdowns, etc
22:19 < ThatOneRoadie> and it's still running just fine
22:19 < hexmonkey> a sample size of 1 is not super reliable
22:20 < hexmonkey> it's pretty well known that raspberrypi sd corruption is a thing
22:20 < Jekotia> ThatOneRoadie: Thanks, that just might work! All of the other battery solutions I've seen for the Pi are more involved (time) and more expensive, but this one looks straight forward enough to be worth it
22:20 < hexmonkey> the fault is probably more that SD cards are unreliable
22:20 < ThatOneRoadie> I used a Pi Zero W and LiPoPi for a wireless stage button at one point
22:21 < Jekotia> It's not that SD cards are unreliable. They were literally engineered for linear use, i.e. cameras
22:21 < ThatOneRoadie> something they could turn a key and smash a big red button and it would send radio signals to various computers to kill it
22:21 < hexmonkey> https://www.modmypi.com/blog/how-to-format-sd-dead-cards
22:21 < Jekotia> The way the pi uses an SD card, it wasn't designed fo
22:22 < Jekotia> SD cards were never meant tobe drop-in replacements for USB flash drives or other storage formats that are designed to handle OS I/O and abrupt power loss
22:22 < DomLS3> MillerBOSS: it may happen one day, but by god at least my network won't have broke 7 times before that due to updates
22:22 < MillerBOSS> :P
22:22 < ThatOneRoadie> Jekotia, here's an updated version that feeds battery level to the pi as well: https://github.com/craic/pi_power
22:22 < MillerBOSS> Updates don't break networks silly
22:23 < hexmonkey> Jekotia: i should have finished that sentence as "the fault is probably more that SD cards are unreliable as an SSD substitute"
22:23 < MillerBOSS> Just don't roll em out the second they are released
22:23 < MillerBOSS> :)
22:23 < DomLS3> or don't roll em out at all
22:23 < DomLS3> :)
22:23 < MillerBOSS> Do you update your networking equipment?
22:24 <@killdash9> I've had multiple Pis eat SD cards. I don't trust them for critical tasks or with data I plan to keep
22:25 < Jekotia> I hate windows. It's claiming an IP address conflict and refusing to use it's assigned address on our camera server. The windows logs give me a MAC address which I can't find anywhere on our network. I think the server's been doing drugs/
22:25 < CheckYourSix> Would you be better off using a USB flash drive with the Pi? Or is that not doable? I never messed with them.
22:25 < JFDkthx> killdash9: chinese pis or real american
22:25 < Jekotia> CheckYourSix: You can, but performance is ATROCIOUS
22:26 <@killdash9> real Pis
22:26 < CheckYourSix> Jekotia: Even with a USB 3 one?
22:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> Jekotia: that's what _Straffer's wife say about him
22:26 < hexmonkey> so pretty much no
22:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> HEYYYY OOOOOOO
22:26 < F34RInc> someones spending a huge amount of time trying to figure out how to share IMAP folders after I said they needed exchange to do so
22:26 <@killdash9> Pi2, 3, and Zero have all eaten themselves at one point
22:26 < estranger> riidding the train
22:26 < estranger> not on cocaaaine
22:26 < Jekotia> CheckYourSix: Pi only does USB2. I tried a reasonable USB3 drive thinking that the faster flash may still see a better USB2 speed, but no
22:28 < Jekotia> It seems to be a general issue with the type of flash memory and controllers used in USB devices. It's hot garbage for more than simple file storage
22:28 < ThatOneRoadie> I mean, if you want an actual vendor-supported hardware product, Avantech makes some nice industrial slate tablets
22:28 < ThatOneRoadie> for reasonableish prices
22:28 < estranger> parallel cables is all anyone should need
22:29 < JFDkthx> yeee
22:29 < hexmonkey> you could use a system that doesn't rely on SD for storage
22:29 < hexmonkey> like the beaglebone black
22:29 < JFDkthx> putting in pto for friday
22:29 < JFDkthx> fucking
22:29 < JFDkthx> 3 day weekend
22:30 < JFDkthx> babeeee
22:30 < hexmonkey> but the peripherals available for that board are not as diverse
22:30 < CheckYourSix> Jekotia: That's what I was thinking about. USB3 drive even in USB2 slot is a lot faster, but I guess it still sucks. Then again, depends what you need the Pi to do I guess
22:30 < felda> hurray the senate voted to overrule the FCC and now the house gets to let it die on the floor and we get to keep living like net neut never exists :D
22:30 < ThatOneRoadie> yep
22:31 < ThatOneRoadie> no surprises there
22:31 < ThatOneRoadie> even if it passes the house
22:31 < ThatOneRoadie> no chance in hell does President Trump sign it
22:31 < ebol4> netneut
22:31 < ThatOneRoadie> NetNeutered
22:31 < ebol4> niles the net newt
22:32 < ebol4> new mascot
22:32 < F34RInc> IBOR > NN
22:32 < hexmonkey> Jekotia: you could get a beaglebone black cape with 4.3" touchscreen
22:32 < hexmonkey> https://www.adafruit.com/product/3396
22:33 < DomLS3> felda: now if only the gubment would ban pfsense
22:33 < Jekotia> hexmonkey: Is 'cape' what they call 'hats'/'shields'?
22:33 < scwizard> what the hell?
22:33 < scwizard> https://www.packer.io/docs/templates/engine.html#isotime-function-format-reference
22:33 < DomLS3> that would be an American miracle
22:33 < CheckYourSix> F34RInc: IBOR?
22:33 < hexmonkey> yes cape = shield
22:33 < scwizard> this is the most batshit insane means of formatting dates I've ever seen
22:33 < F34RInc> CheckYourSix, Internet Bill Of Rights
22:33 < CheckYourSix> scwizard: +++
22:34 < scwizard> just WHY
22:34 < CheckYourSix> scwizard: YYYY-MM-DD HH:mm:ss (TimeZone) should be the only true format
22:34 < estranger> ISO 8601 damnit
22:34 < estranger> no, ISO8601 supports multiple formats.  use one of those
22:35 < estranger> including epoch time, which is fucking useful
22:36 < scwizard> how does something like that
22:36 < scwizard> like how does someone get paid to write that?
22:37 < estranger> whats wrong w/ using epoch and converting from there to your desired format?
22:37 < estranger> oh wait thats not epoch
22:37 < estranger> wtf is that!  ok now im with you
22:39 < CheckYourSix> estranger: Epoch also doesn't cover old dates if you have to use them
22:39 < estranger> CheckYourSix, -
22:39 < estranger> plus you get to pick your granularity !
22:40 <@killdash9> CheckYourSix: yeah, old dates. Like my birthday.
22:40 < estranger> number go negative people
22:40 < hexmonkey> WHEN DINOSAURS ROAMED THE EARTH
22:40 < estranger> *numbers
22:40 < CheckYourSix> killdash9: Haha
22:40 <@killdash9> I don't go to the doctor. I go to a palentologist.
22:40 < hexmonkey> AND killdash9 WAS FINISHING HIGH SCHOOL
22:40 < estranger> Epoch timestamp: -5352924005 Human time (GMT): Friday, May 16, 1800 8:39:55 PM
22:41 < estranger> EPOCH IS THE BEST TIME, prove me wrong
22:41 < tapoxi> no
22:41 <@killdash9> estranger: who told you my birthday?
22:41 < tapoxi> epoch is not the best time
22:41 < hexmonkey> can't make me
22:41 < estranger> tapoxi, flawless logic!
22:41 < tapoxi> estranger: im dealing with date formats right now fite me
22:41 < tapoxi> iso8601 or bust
22:42 < estranger> epoch is going to be faster 99% of the time, and is typically easier to work with
22:42 < estranger> and is easy to format however you want
22:43 < estranger> ISO8601 is a close second
22:43 < estranger> but still second
22:44 < zehdeh> Hi, has somebody here some experience with Oracle RAC?
22:44 < tapoxi> the second is TTF, tapoxi time format
22:44 < tapoxi> the number of days since my birthday
22:45 < scwizard> let me get some +1s before they close the issue: https://github.com/hashicorp/packer/issues/6278
22:46 < tapoxi> estranger: problem is epoch is generally accepted as UTC, but some people thing epoch is local time
22:46 < tapoxi> that is my existential nightmare right now
22:46 < scwizard> also spam laugh emogi reactions
22:47  * scwizard isn't aware of any anti brigading  rules on github
22:47 < estranger> tapoxi, those people are wrong
22:47 < estranger> tapoxi, so that is not a hit against epoch because someone is stupid
22:48 < JollyRgrs> tapoxi: how is epoch anything to do with timezone?
22:48 < tapoxi> epoch doesnt 100% say "fuck you this is UTC"
22:48 < estranger> yes it does
22:48 < tapoxi> iso8601 does
22:49 < JollyRgrs> epoch says "this is x many miliseconds since the agreed upon epoch event"
22:49 < tapoxi> im running into an issue where epoch was agreed for an internal app to be in Eastern time
22:49 < tapoxi> dont ask why
22:49 < tapoxi> just cry with me
22:49 < ebol4> java actually provides methods for converting unix timestamps to local time, while keeping them as integers still
22:49 < JollyRgrs> tapoxi: at least they have some stds
22:50 < ebol4> so you can have local unix timestamps
22:50 < tapoxi> ebol4: yep
22:50 < JollyRgrs> tapoxi: internal app i ahd to deal with just took the datetime format on the local computer and then converted to a string b4 being used in the app
22:50 < tapoxi> see this is why i like 8601
22:50 < JollyRgrs> so when the machines were put in canadian locale settings, the format was diff and so the strings were diff
22:50 < tapoxi> scwizard: Mon Jan 2 15:04:05 -0700 MST 2006 wait what
22:51 < ebol4> i think everyone should just operate on UTC and some people's 2AM will be bright and sunny, while some people's 3PM will be dark
22:51 < ebol4> no more timezones
22:51 < scwizard> tapoxi: spam +1s on this issue https://github.com/hashicorp/packer/issues/6278
22:51 < estranger> tapoxi, dont get me wrong i dont NOT like iso8601 .. but even when using 8601 quite often behind the scenes its stored as a epoch
22:51 < scwizard> ebol4: nah
22:51 < Hunterkll> .....
22:51 < tapoxi> estranger: yeah I dont care if its stored as epoch
22:51 < Hunterkll> i'm getting some familiar systems
22:51 < tapoxi> estranger: I just dont want humans ever using epoch
22:52 < Hunterkll> I'm going to have to RMA my RMA'd CPU I am afraid
22:52 < Hunterkll> another i9-7980XE going bunk
22:52 < Hunterkll> llullz
22:52 < tapoxi> scwizard: looks like this is a golang thing
22:52 < estranger> tapoxi, your app should use 8601 for sending data to end users but ultimately it should be epoch
22:52 < scwizard> tapoxi: awww fuck
22:53 < scwizard> so it's not hashicorp that has their heads up their ass it's google?
22:53 < scwizard> that's NOT encouraging
22:54 < estranger> i never use packer
22:54 < estranger> only hashicorp i konw is vault
22:54 < scwizard> all the hashicorp products
22:54 < scwizard> are pretty bubblegum and scotch tape
22:54 < scwizard> but they fill important needs so
22:54 < estranger> heh yeah.. that describes vault well
22:55 < estranger> it works though
22:56 < estranger> ya know they should put epoch into 8601 w/ the proper date.. tbh I thought it was already
22:56 < DomLS3> who has a hookup on a cheap dual HDMI video card
22:57 < MillerBOSS> Amazon
22:57 < MillerBOSS> Ebay
22:57 < MillerBOSS> ;)
22:58 < estranger> https://docs.datastax.com/en/dse/5.1/cql/cql/cql_reference/refDataTypes.html#refDataTypes__timestamp  <-- thats where my confusion came from. we do ISO8601 formats but we store it as epoch (you can also use epoch instead of 8601 in your type)
22:59 < abakedapplepie> fucking datetimes
22:59 < JollyRgrs> thunder outside, time to leave early!
22:59 < JollyRgrs> ciao
22:59 < abakedapplepie> lame
23:00 < abakedapplepie> also, im jealous
23:00 < abakedapplepie> i want more storms
23:00 < MillerBOSS> You will probably need to do DVI HDMI, DomLS3 then get a DVI to HDMI cable
23:00 < MillerBOSS> Thunder = go home? Since when?
23:00 < hxcsp> since you work inside a swimming pool
23:00 < abakedapplepie> MillerBOSS: maybe his dog has ptsd
23:00 < abakedapplepie> dont judge
23:00 < MillerBOSS> :P
23:00 < estranger> Professional color guard
23:01 < abakedapplepie> lol
23:01 < abakedapplepie> like anyone takes their flags down in the rain
23:01 < estranger> You stand there with a flag pole in lightening
23:01 < abakedapplepie> the only time ive ever seen that happen was in boy scouts and in the military
23:02 < abakedapplepie> my cranky old scoutmaster used to lambast everyone that kept their flags out in the rain or at night with no light on it
23:02 < estranger> I want to go camping
23:02 < vavkamil> what about pirates
23:02 < abakedapplepie> gas stations, the grocery store, hell even the county courthouse
23:02 < estranger> Kid in my leadership patrol murdered his parents
23:02 < abakedapplepie> what
23:02 < abakedapplepie> jesus
23:02 < estranger> That kind of spoiled it for me
23:02 < abakedapplepie> wow
23:04 < estranger> http://articles.mcall.com/keyword/jeffrey-howorth
23:04 < scwizard> jesus christ
23:05 < vavkamil> how do you stay productive?
23:05 < abakedapplepie> vavkamil: fake it til you make it
23:05 < abakedapplepie> i do my best work 5 minutes before a deadline anyway
23:05 < abakedapplepie> :v
23:06 < DomLS3> MillerBOSS: https://www.amazon.com/VisionTek-Radeon-7750-miniDP-Graphics/dp/B009ZQ5HW6/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1526504382&sr=1-3&keywords=video+card+2x+hdmi
23:06 < DomLS3> found this. Maybe it'll work well. Only 1GB though
23:06 < vavkamil> I made a stupid mistake to relying on 3rd party API :/ now it's kinda gone
23:08 < MillerBOSS> 1GB is more than enough unless you are gaming
23:08 < MillerBOSS> Just get https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GT-710-1GD3H-LP/dp/B01AZHOWL0 if it is a office computer
23:08 < MillerBOSS> $40
23:08 < MillerBOSS> Then a DVI to HDMI
23:09 < MillerBOSS> Almost all my users in the building I am at has 4 LCDs so quad output GPU and some cards have 512MB of RAM
23:10 < vinrock> hey
23:10 < vinrock> hi5 estranger i knew a guy that killed his parents too
23:11 < MillerBOSS> I have a handful of these DomLS3 https://www.amazon.com/VisionTek-Radeon-5570-VHDCI-Graphics/dp/B01N3QHCIN
23:11 < MillerBOSS> But recently moved to WX4100 https://www.amazon.com/AMD-100-506008-Radeon-Workstation-Graphics/dp/B01MQHEAYE
23:11 < MillerBOSS> Got about 20 or so of those
23:12 < MillerBOSS> Too bad those cards don't do much for mining. ;)
23:13 < vinrock> dom you can buy a gtx750 for dirt cheap
23:13 < vinrock> with dual hdmi
23:14 < estranger> vinrock: high 5!
23:15 < MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7ogK_unbqM
23:15 < MillerBOSS> Minnie the Moocher
23:15 < vinrock> dom: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125951
23:16 < MillerBOSS> `echo voice me
23:16 < vinrock> 150 duckets
23:17 < MillerBOSS> Found this last night https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0785H3XR7/ will come in handy for many random things
23:18 < vinrock> i want that smartphone flir camera
23:18 <@cryptic1> evening
23:18 < MillerBOSS> Good morning
23:18 < vinrock> zupdog
23:18 < vinrock> millerboss:  https://www.amazon.com/FLIR-ONE-Thermal-Imager-Android/dp/B00W5PRY52
23:18 < scwizard> ok so
23:18 < vinrock> yuss
23:18 < scwizard> autoscaling launch configurations are depreciated apparently?
23:18 < scwizard> and now we should use launch templates/
23:18 < scwizard> https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2017/11/introducing-launch-templates-for-amazon-ec2-instances/
23:19 < scwizard> i can't keep up ahhh
23:19 < MillerBOSS> Wow that is fucking cool vinrock. I wonder how that could be used at work
23:19 < SynMonger> inb4 MillerBOSS arrested for spying in the restroom
23:19 < vinrock> i gotta get one of these
23:19 < vinrock> ooh the new usb-c model is $20 cheaper
23:20 < scwizard> my brain no worky today
23:20 < scwizard> i haven't been very productive
23:20 < MillerBOSS> Yeah right SynMonger
23:20 < vinrock> oh ok
23:20 < MillerBOSS> https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-05-16-16-20-19-Gb.png
23:20 < vinrock> theres a fancy 'pro' model for twice the price
23:20 < MillerBOSS> Good call there
23:20 < vinrock> yeah stuff like that is hgreat
23:21 < vinrock> even home wiring searching for hotspots, etc
23:21 < MillerBOSS> >Poured boiling water down the drain and looked for the transition between hot and cold and where the clog was.
23:21 < vinrock> hvac stuff
23:21 < estranger> Sealing my house in the winter
23:21 < estranger> I want a flir camera too
23:22 < scwizard> god launch templates have like
23:22 < vinrock> https://www.amazon.com/FLIR-Thermal-Imaging-Camera-Android/dp/B07232C9RB/ref=pd_sim_421_6?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07232C9RB&pd_rd_r=8MMCRBHN5WET8JJ8XQM0&pd_rd_w=UHU2E&pd_rd_wg=ZeqqL&psc=1&refRID=8MMCRBHN5WET8JJ8XQM0
23:22 < scwizard> 9000 more options than launch configurations
23:22 < vinrock> the PRO model
23:23 < estranger> Where is the 50 dollar Chinese knock off flir
23:23 < vinrock> flir got this market on lock
23:24 < vinrock> the non-flir ones suck
23:24 < scwizard> ok you only need a few of those options i guess
23:25 < vinrock> "The FLIR ONE Pro features our Lepton Thermal micro-camera, which has four times the resolution of the standard third generation FLIR ONE. "
23:25 < vinrock> that is a huge deal
23:26 < onenerdyguy> off to rock on the range bitches. you have a good week
23:26 < hxcsp> peace
23:33 < abakedapplepie> oh man
23:33 < abakedapplepie> i forgot about that
23:33 < abakedapplepie> i wanted to try and get tickets
23:50 < grumplestiltzkin> that's badass.   but it's $400, you can get a whole cat S60 (or s61) with it built in for around $600, unlocked, etc
23:53 < ebol4> lol i'm so mad
23:53 < ebol4> i have an interview scheduled in 7 minutes for palo alto
23:53 < ebol4> i thought it was Palo Alto, the firewall people
23:53 < ebol4> it's apparently Palo Alto Software, a tiny business in eugene, OR
23:55 < grumplestiltzkin> use it to practice, knowing you dont want or need it
23:55 < ebol4> i'm gonna, but god dangit
23:55 < ebol4> how is that even allowed
23:55 < ebol4> they've got the same name
23:56 < silentfury> palo alto networks, palo alto software
23:56 < silentfury> doesnt make real sense but there ya go
23:56 < ebol4> why do they even have the name palo alto, they're in oregon
23:56 < scwizard> what's the difference between different versions of a launch template, and different launch templates in aws?
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