--- Log opened Tue May 22 00:00:28 2018
00:00 < rpifan> when programming
00:00 < rpifan> works right
00:00 < rpifan> its fucken addicintg
00:00 < rpifan> addicting
00:01 < rpifan> i just made a fucken script work
00:01 < rpifan> that would have seemed impossible to me two weeks ago
00:01 < rpifan> takes links parses them to csv, renames data, then spits them out by parsing the name out of the link itself
00:01 < rpifan> incredible shit
00:01 < rpifan> and all thanks to python
00:02 < XV8> Some people on a different team learned a valuable lesson about vetting their patches in testing before deployment
00:02 < MillerBOSS> Which patches XV8?
00:03 < XV8> The ones that broke RDP MillerBOSS
00:03 < genr8_> pythons a good one to know
00:04 < XV8> We warned them and told them there was a fix but it had to be deployed "right now!" or the sky was going to fall.
00:04 < MillerBOSS> I saw of their being an issue but I didn't have none. Is there only an issue if the workstation (connecting from) and server are not patched at the same time?
00:04 < MillerBOSS> Let it fall now since they say that
00:04 < XV8> Yup
00:05 < XV8> Also I'm not sure. I know MS enabled something that broke the default authentication method to "make it more secure"
00:21 < Hunterkll> https://imgur.com/6Lam8eT
00:21 < Hunterkll> lell
00:22 < Hunterkll> http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2018/05/21/frontier-airlines-passenger-arrested-after-peeing-on-seat-in-front-him-during-flight.html#
00:22 <@cryptic1> :/
00:22 <@cryptic1> what kind of person does that
00:23 < Hunterkll> don't you try and deflect this shit
00:23 < sadbox> cryptic1: as a former resident of san francisco: too many people
00:23 < Hunterkll> i lilke how the uncensored pic made reddit
00:23 < Hunterkll> lulz
00:28 < SandyTech> When you're creating VM templates, how specific do you guys tend to get?
00:30 < SandyTech> I've got a generic 2016 template and a handful of RDS session host templates for our LOB apps.
00:33 < Alternity> generic as possible
00:33 < Alternity> usually just windows updates for 2012 servers
00:33 < Arlion37> So.. i just bought a mac
00:33 < Arlion37> my very first one
00:33 < Arlion37> so.. i installed a few applications via brew
00:34 < Arlion37> how do i get to them?
00:34 < Arlion37> like.. i installed terminator.. i want to run terminator as a application instead of typing "terminator" into the terminal
00:34 < mal_will> Man, fuck google fi
00:34 < Arlion37> dude, i am
00:34 < mal_will> in case you needed to know if it's worth switching, it's mega not
00:35 < Hunterkll> I obscenely disagree with you
00:35 < sadbox> mal_will: what's shitty about it?
00:35 < Hunterkll> I find it invaluble for travel
00:35 < mal_will> They hard hit your credit to lease a phone
00:36 < Hunterkll> .... so does $all_carriers when you first open an account
00:36 < mal_will> you can't trade in an old phone without buying a new one. No unlimited data. I spent like ~100 a month in data alone
00:36 < mal_will> no, they don't
00:36 < Hunterkll> T-Mobile, AT&T, and Verizon all did when i opened my accounts
00:36 < mal_will> I've been with t mobile and virgin and at&t and just went back to t mobile
00:36 < mal_will> no hard hits
00:36 < mal_will> also verizon
00:36 < mal_will> also, can't pay more towards your lease. only monthly set payments or nothing
00:37 < mal_will> s/nothing/all/
00:37 < mal_will> oops
00:37 < Hunterkll> that doesn't really bother me at all
00:37 < mal_will> and to get a phone replaced under the insurance, they take the full price out of your account until you get and return the old phone
00:37 < Hunterkll> also, doesn't fi stop  charigng you for data past 6GB
00:37 < mal_will> $800 on a year old phone just removed from my account
00:37 < Hunterkll> i never use more than a few hundred megs on fi anyway
00:38 < mal_will> itt didn't for me, for me it was $10 GB
00:38 < Hunterkll> yyes
00:38 < SandyTech> Alternity: I started off with a generic image of 2012 & 2016, but given how much of a PITA setting up some of our LOB apps is, I decided that it was worth the time to create images of those RDS hosts too. I was just trying to get a feel for common practice because our new CIO thinks that we don't have enough machines templated out
00:38 < Hunterkll> it's $10/gb up to a specific amount
00:38 < mal_will> but I had two people
00:38 < Hunterkll> they added a cap now
00:38 < mal_will> the cap is ten GB
00:38 < Hunterkll> my t-mobile bill is like $250/month for me
00:38 < Hunterkll> lol
00:38 < Hunterkll> so that woulldn't bother me still
00:38 < sadbox> Hunterkll: how do you possibly pay that much
00:38 < sadbox> for t-mobile
00:38 < Hunterkll> sadbox, iphone x, apple watch, 4 lines... galaxy s8+ ..
00:39 < sadbox> ohh, I thought the "for me" was referencing "just for me"
00:39 < Hunterkll> .... it is
00:39 < sadbox> you have 4 lines just for you?
00:39 < sadbox> butwhy.jpg
00:39 < SandyTech> And our shift to summer hours has just reset our lost time accidents counter back to zero, just as I predicted it would
00:39 < Hunterkll> well
00:40 < Hunterkll> one for the iphone, one for the S8+, one for the RAZR, and one for the watch
00:40 < Hunterkll> yea it was $255.26 last month
00:40 < admiralspark> SandyTech: how are you doing templates? You mean something like vmware templates from a sysprep'd image?
00:41 < mal_will> Also, they did quote 184 for the tradein, but only sent 144, with no explanation as to why. just a final jerk move from fi
00:41 < Hunterkll> sadbox, https://imgur.com/lDVmIOU
00:41 < SandyTech> admiralspark: yeah
00:41 < rpifan> working from home is so satisfying
00:41 < rpifan> all day
00:41 < rpifan> working quiet
00:41 < rpifan> in peace
00:41 < Hunterkll> mal_will, yea, uh, i just bought my phone outright on amazon
00:41 < rpifan> just concentration
00:41 < Hunterkll> and then got the fi kit
00:41 < admiralspark> SandyTech: ahh cool.
00:41 < rpifan> not fucken meetings
00:41 < Hunterkll> and i'm loving it
00:41 < Hunterkll> so
00:41 < rpifan> or ppl annoying me
00:41 < mal_will> I bought my last phone outright, fuck a hard hit to credit
00:41 < Hunterkll> lol
00:41 < Hunterkll> those barely matter
00:41 < mal_will> I tried fi for one year, and it was such a waste of money
00:41 < Hunterkll> i don't use it as a primary phone provider, i use it as a travel phone
00:41 < mal_will> I don't like getting my credit hit at all
00:42 < Hunterkll> loll i have lilke 10 inquiries
00:42 < Hunterkll> i don't care
00:42 < Hunterkll> doesn't affect anything
00:42 < Hunterkll> they hardly matter after 6 months anyway
00:42 < mal_will> It's dumb that for a house, car, or a doofy pixel 2, you get the same hard hit
00:42 < Hunterkll> I had my credit run when I opened my t-mo account *shrug*
00:42 < Hunterkll> and had them re-run it to get a lower down payment on a phone too
00:42 < admiralspark> mal_will: you can use one credit report for all of that though
00:42 < mal_will> I've been on a shit ton of carriers and never once had a hard hit
00:42 < SandyTech> we put both of our phones (and a bunch of ancillary stuff) on the wife's credit to help her build it back up
00:42 < admiralspark> and unless you're doing 10+ in one year you don't get a points hit for it.
00:43 < admiralspark> More than like 5 points anyway
00:43 < Hunterkll> yea it's not even worth thinking about
00:43 < mal_will> I still don't want a hard hit for $800 bucks
00:43 < Hunterkll> lol
00:43 < admiralspark> That's an odd reason but to each their own :)
00:43 < Hunterkll> I have like shitloads of hard hits
00:43 < mal_will> It's just really pointless
00:43 < Hunterkll> most of them are from my own bank
00:43 < Hunterkll> llol
00:43 < Hunterkll> sadbox, https://i.imgur.com/lDVmIOU.png
00:43 < Hunterkll> :D
00:43 < mal_will> tmobile looked at my at&t history and was like, cool, here you go
00:43 < SandyTech> whyfor would they do that?
00:44 < grumplestiltzkin> If you don't finance your phone, you avoid the credit check
00:44 < Hunterkll> I also have like $1,474.93 remaining balance
00:44 < Hunterkll> grumplestiltzkin is right
00:44 < Hunterkll> i've also avoided the credit check in the past by refusing to give my SSN
00:44 < Hunterkll> but they charged a $250 deposit for that
00:44 < Hunterkll> returned it after a year
00:45 < Hunterkll> nowadays it's lelss of an issue
00:45 < grumplestiltzkin> ^same with internet
00:45 < Hunterkll> with their all inclusive plans and that they have the same shit for pre and post paid customers basically now
00:45 < grumplestiltzkin> iirc with fios, it was a $400 deposit that they return after a year (even when I was not renting their equipment)
00:45 < admiralspark> okay
00:45 < Hunterkll> oh yea!
00:45 < admiralspark> Bitlocker question: Do you guys use AES128 or AES256?
00:45 < Hunterkll> mal_will, Verizon hit my credit .... when I got my landline installed.
00:46 < Hunterkll> XTS
00:46 < mal_will> Maybe because landline?
00:46 < admiralspark> 128 was SIGNIFICANTLY faster for encryption/decryption
00:46 < PrincessZoey> well I found my new favorite alcoholic drink
00:46 < PrincessZoey> 3 shots vodka and 50/50 mix of mtn dew code red and the white monster zero
00:46 < mal_will> I have had a ton of cell carrier accounts and a shit ton of phones
00:46 < Hunterkll> mal_will, it's not like there's more risk involved, if anything less
00:46 < Hunterkll> llol
00:46 < mal_will> I never had a hard hit for a phone before fi
00:46 < grumplestiltzkin> nobody gets SSN unless its 100% required/government things    any service that you want to contract does *not* have to have it
00:46 < mal_will> lol, I don't care about rick?
00:46 < Hunterkll> mal_will, there are ways to avoid credit checks, but i've had 'em in the past
00:46 < mal_will> risk*
00:46 < mal_will> I think it's shitty to hard hit for an $800 phone
00:47 < Hunterkll> mal_will, i'm talking about the credit check
00:47 < Hunterkll> for the landline
00:47 < Hunterkll> they're not giving me ANY equipment
00:47 < Hunterkll> just service!
00:47 < SandyTech> Dear boss, syspreping & templating an Exchange server is a bad idea....
00:47 < mal_will> ah, I mean, idk why anyone would
00:47 < Hunterkll> comcast has hit me before too
00:47 < mal_will> I usually buy a device, then give it a month or three to be sure I like it, then pay the device off
00:47 < Hunterkll> paypal hit me last year unexpectedly
00:47 < mal_will> I've never missed any service payments.
00:47 < Hunterkll> got a CL increase though
00:47 < SandyTech> I mean it's not like Exchange 13 is all that hard to install in the relative universe of shit we have t spin up
00:47 < Hunterkll> so it works out
00:48 < mal_will> It's like. damn man, I'm decent
00:48 < Hunterkll> t-mo does that too
00:48 < mal_will> They didn't to me
00:48 < Hunterkll> don't care about credit much anymore after 12 months on time payments
00:48 < Nightcinder> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/05/t-mobile-should-stop-claiming-it-has-best-unlimited-network-ad-group-says/
00:48 < Hunterkll> but new account or expanding
00:48 < Nightcinder> speaking of tmo
00:48 < Hunterkll> can cause issues
00:48 < mal_will> Idk, I had t mobile the longest, through maybe 4 phones
00:48 < Hunterkll> why do i have 2 hard inquiries from chase
00:48 < Hunterkll> lol
00:48 < Nightcinder> i've had verizon like 20 years
00:48 < mal_will> I never got a hit to set up, or add my little brother
00:48 < Hunterkll> i've been with t-mo since like, 2005
00:49 < Nightcinder> one day i'll switch to fi
00:49 < Hunterkll> only went to AT&T briefly when they wouldn't give me a new phone and I had just been mugged
00:49 < mal_will> just went back to t mobile
00:49 < Hunterkll> but yea
00:49 < SandyTech> Only a marketing department could turn a simple 1 page PDF into a 15 meg documnet
00:49 < Hunterkll> for me fi is amazing, triple carrier coverage and only costs me like $5-10/month
00:49 < Hunterkll> lol
00:49 < Hunterkll> i only turn it on when i'm travelling
00:49 < mal_will> T mobile has been my favorite
00:49 < SandyTech> it's clearly just BS they knocked up in Publisher too
00:49 < Hunterkll> well yea, that's why I have t-mobille for my 'regular' devices
00:49 < Hunterkll> fi's just my travel device
00:49 < mal_will> It's definitely not great for two heavy data users
00:50 < Hunterkll> it's not, no, but you're not reaaaaly the target market
00:50 < mal_will> just a consistent $100 a month in data
00:50 < SandyTech> Verizon is the only choice in my area for reliable service
00:50 < mal_will> I mean, they don't advertise it as anything special
00:50 < Hunterkll> mal_will, it's $10/gig for data - worldwide - without throttling. T-Mo had me throttled down to almost EDGE speeds while I was in iceland
00:50 < SandyTech> with anyone else, you have to stand in one particular corner of the yard to get service.
00:50 < mal_will> they just advertise as a cell service
00:50 < Hunterkll> the features of the service are all travel centric
00:50 < Hunterkll> lol
00:50 < mal_will> It was nice fi worked for me in sweden, but meh
00:50 < SandyTech> With AT&T, you actually have to get up on top of the tractor shed at my mom and dad's to use your damn phone
00:50 < mal_will> not thaaaat nice
00:50 < pcspkr> these spectre vulnerabilities just keep on coming
00:51 < Hunterkll> anywhere coverage, $10/gig no roaming charges,  20/10 cents a minute calls
00:51 < Hunterkll> and you can turn it on/off at any time
00:51 < mal_will> you paid per call?
00:51 < Hunterkll> that's when you're outside of CONUS (or mexico/canada)
00:51 < Hunterkll> but same for t-mobile
00:51 < mal_will> what the fuck?
00:51 < Hunterkll> 10 cents a minute for voice callls in iceland that aren't wifi calls
00:51 < SandyTech> pcspkr: That's going to be the fuckup that keeps on giving for a good while to come
00:51 < mal_will> were you on some different shit?
00:51 < Hunterkll> no
00:51 < mal_will> I never paid for calls while travelling
00:51 < Hunterkll> i wasn't using data, cellular roaming
00:52 < Hunterkll> mal_will, https://support.google.com/fi/answer/6157794?hl=en
00:52 < mal_will> it just called like normal, on and off wifi
00:52 < mal_will> I made like, 10 calls, easily, no cost
00:52 < Hunterkll> well, i've never taken it out
00:52 < mal_will> I'm not sure of anything any more
00:52 < Hunterkll> of the country
00:53 < Hunterkll> but t-mobile DEFINITELY charges 10 cents a minute
00:53 < Hunterkll> even on their best omg blowjob one+ plan
00:53 < Hunterkll> mal_will, are you a US based customer though?
00:53 < mal_will> yeah
00:53 < SandyTech> Our new CIO is... let's just call him interesting in a delightfully strange way. He's in his office blasting T.M. Revolution at full volume
00:53 < Hunterkll> huh
00:53 < Hunterkll> loll
00:54 < Hunterkll> mal_will, still though, fi's text & data are the same rates as stateside so that's why i got it .... i'm happy t-mo has data at alll actuallly
00:54 < Hunterkll> fi is so much better than t-mo for travel
00:55 < Hunterkll> i actually just got a data only fi sim around here recently
00:55 < Hunterkll> gonna use it with a computer when i go back to iceland instead of t-mo
00:55 < Hunterkll> little more expensive, much much more faster instead of this 2X EDGE speeds bulllshit
00:55 < Hunterkll> and i can't even buy any type of faster internationall data package since t-mobile doesn't have any
00:56 < SandyTech> Which is kinda odd since their parent company is Deutsche Telekom
00:56 < SandyTech> you'd think they'd at least have a good EU or Eurozone plan
00:56 < SandyTech> at the least
00:56 < Hunterkll> still a totally foreign network and still has to deal with network interconnects and shit
00:56 < Hunterkll> i mean don't get me wrong
00:57 < Hunterkll> it's great
00:57 < Hunterkll> free text & 2X data & 10c/minute voice call
00:57 < SandyTech> I don't remember what I actually have to pay internationally. I've got some legacy AT&T plan that's *stupidly* cheap
00:57 < Hunterkll> lol wtf?!
00:57 < Hunterkll> I have a negative balance with fi
00:57 < Hunterkll> lmao
00:57 < SandyTech> same with my true unlimited plan
00:58 < SandyTech> Nice! When's Mr. Page goona cut you a cheque?
00:58 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/th7QKth.png
00:59 < Hunterkll> lel
01:00 < Hunterkll> sadbox, and this is why myu phone bill is stuipdly expensive - https://imgur.com/mN3Htmr
01:00 < Hunterkll> lol
01:01 < corn266> Can anyone recommend a good tv wall mount brand? Looking for VESA 400x400 50in
01:02 < SandyTech> TBH I just get whatever the local ADI branch has on sale
01:03 < benjgvps> The generic ones from amazon seem to work well, I got one for a 110 pound 65" plasma that I got for free, it worked fine
01:03 < Hunterkll> ya i mean it's reallly hard to screw these sorta things up
01:03 < Hunterkll> lol
01:04 < SandyTech> pretty much. They all suck in different ways
01:04 < benjgvps> It's now holding a much lighter LED, but when I took the old TV off it showed no signs of bending or damage
01:04 < corn266> fair enough, I think I'll just go get the amazon one cause no ADI around here
01:04 < sadbox> Hunterkll: I just don't think I'd have 3 phones
01:04 < SandyTech> One TV we've got at home I totally rednecked a mount out of some leftover Unistrut & other shit I had laying around
01:05 < sadbox> Hunterkll: but if that's your jam
01:05 < Hunterkll> sadbox, i sold one of the S8+'s
01:05 < Hunterkll> llol
01:05 < sadbox> I have one work and one home phone
01:05 < Hunterkll> but since the EIP is interest free, no point in paying it off
01:05 < sadbox> and I'm selling the personal one
01:05 < Hunterkll> oh yea i have na iphone 7 for work
01:05 < Hunterkll> and i still use my lumia 950 XL
01:05 <+orderchaos> I'm still running my oneplus 3t, I haven't seen anything on newer phones to make me want to upgrade. Only reason I got the 3t was because my nexus 5x stopped booting.
01:06 < SandyTech> I did a walkthrough at one of our new sites. For some reason the GC put a raised floor and overhead ladder racking in
01:06 < Hunterkll> someone was llookin out for ya
01:06 < Hunterkll> lol
01:07 < SandyTech> pretty much, yeah. I just wanted the ladder racking, but I suppose I won't bitch too much about a 1st floor coms/server room being an additional 12ish inches above grade
01:12  * SandyTech has found a power metal 'cover' of HP Lovecraft's The Rats in the Walls. I is happy
01:16 < SandyTech> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHcMr6ZCJX8
01:19 < Church-> orderchaos: Been using a pixel xl myself, still good 2+ years later. No slow down at all.
01:27 < Astr0_Belt> Hello.
01:27 < admiralspark> o/
01:28 < admiralspark> MillerBOSS: how goes the fight
01:33 < MillerBOSS> Which fight is this?
01:33 < MillerBOSS> I am new here. Can I take your drink order?
01:35 < MillerBOSS> We got Miller Lite, Bud Light, Spotted Cow, Guinness, Blue Moon, Stella, Labatt Blue, and Coors Light on top.
01:35 < MillerBOSS> Oh and the new one, uhh
01:35 < MillerBOSS> Shock Top
01:35 < MillerBOSS> Otherwise we have $3 long islands
01:36  * MillerBOSS looks at admiralspark 
01:36 < corn266> Yay I got a call from a tech support scammer
01:36 < MillerBOSS> And?
01:36 < corn266> still on the phone
01:36 < MillerBOSS> Did you invite em over for drunks
01:36 < MillerBOSS> drinks
01:36 < corn266> "can you find the ctrl key?"
01:37 < MillerBOSS> >Do you mean CONTROL, I am on a Macintosh.
01:37 < admiralspark> MillerBOSS: I'll have an Old Fashioned
01:37 < admiralspark> eww you're a mac user
01:37 < admiralspark> :P
01:37 < MillerBOSS> Fuck I hated making those
01:38 < corn266> press and hold windows key and press down the little r
01:38 < MillerBOSS> I did TGIFRiDAYS for 5 years
01:38 < admiralspark> ahh, I like mine easy though. Whiskey, sugar, bitters, some water if it's rough.
01:38 < MillerBOSS> Tell him you are on a Mac corn266
01:39 < MillerBOSS> Also tell him your keyboard has a big R
01:39 < MillerBOSS> No little r here sir
01:39 < admiralspark> lol
01:40 < MillerBOSS> >I am on a big boy's keyboard.
01:40 < admiralspark> You mean old people one with the giant letters?
01:40 < MillerBOSS> >Are they still using little r's on your keyboards in your country
01:41 < MillerBOSS> http://atlantaprops.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Atlanta-Props-Custom-Oversized-Props-Giant-TV-Remote.jpg
01:41 < MillerBOSS> Scientific Atlanta
01:42 < MillerBOSS> Went to Cisco in 2005 go figure
01:42 < corn266> wow this is a good scam
01:43 < corn266> we're on event viewer now
01:46 < SandyTech> MillerBOSS: I thought Cisco spun 'em back out
01:49 < SandyTech> for ADA compliance, one of our users has one of these damn things: https://www.ablenetinc.com/technology/computer-tablet-access/bigkeys-lx-keyboard
01:49 < SandyTech> Each key is an inch square
01:50 < sadbox> SandyTech: that looks fun to use
01:50 < sadbox> SandyTech: what disability does it help with?>
01:50 < SandyTech> dude has some sort of motor control issues
01:51 < SandyTech> he's got that and some joystick job instead of a mouse
01:52 < corn266> awe I only got 20 minutes out of him cause I don't have a VM for this type of thing
01:52 < SandyTech> boo
01:53 < SandyTech> I've been tempted to spin up a VM from one of our CNC machine's images to use with these guys
01:54 < SandyTech> But IE2 doesn't work real well with modern websites
01:54 < SandyTech> still gets to Google though
01:56 < precise> My car misfires in the rain, I just saw that my right headlight is out. My car did not misfire while driving in the rain today. Therefore, the issuewas resolved by removing the troublesome headlight bug. Closing ticket.
01:57 < SandyTech> sadbox: this is the 'mouse' he uses: https://www.ablenetinc.com/technology/computer-tablet-access/rock-adapted-joystick#Description
01:57 < SandyTech> Juuuust a little pricy
02:00 < sadbox> SandyTech: that's kinda nifty
02:00 < aName> precise: I mean... if there was an electrical timing issue because of impedance on the headlight fitting.... maybe?
02:00 < sadbox> I have a fancy trackball that is sometimes marketed at children w/ learning disorders
02:01 < aName> precise: The electrical systems on cars are shockingly bad, pun inintended
02:01 < aName> *un
02:01 < SandyTech> It's actually not that bad to use, if it weren't on the far side of 700 bucks, I'd probably use it TBH
02:01 < SandyTech> I know a couple of our CAD/CAM guys have been trying to get them
02:05 < SandyTech> Then again we've got that one old-school CAD guy who does 99% of his work via the command line
02:06 < Astr0_Belt> does anyone have experience with dell powervault md3000is?
02:07 < precise> aName: Nah, I know why my engine misfires, it's because the sparkplugs/coils are shorting/arcing when they get wet. My light being out is just a coincidence ;)
02:07 < aName> precise: Right - but if you told me it was, I'd believe you
02:07 < SandyTech> Astr0_Belt: I've done a bit with them
02:07 < aName> I'd have no reason not to
02:08 < aName> Electric cars are going to basically put independent mechanics out of business, though
02:08 < SandyTech> ayup
02:08 < precise> aName: :/
02:08 < precise> It sucks
02:08 < precise> But its true
02:09 < SandyTech> most of the major auto makers are working on putting shade trees & independents out of business
02:09 < aName> SandyTech: And with electric, those guys won't know how to work on it anyway
02:09 < aName> SandyTech: I mean, sure, a few will learn
02:09 < SandyTech> true
02:09 < Astr0_Belt> SandyTech: I have one in my homelab, are you able to use them with dells new openmanage or am I stuck modular disk storage manager?
02:10 < aName> But also, the maintenance is going to be much, much easier..
02:10 < SandyTech> You *should* be able to manage it with openmanage
02:10 < SandyTech> yeah, not much in the way of moving parts
02:10 < aName> Yeah. Well, there's your motor, and uh... the wheels.
02:10 < SandyTech> but a bunch of stupid plastic odds and sods burried under a dash that's full of eight million miles of wire
02:11 < Astr0_Belt> SandyTech: Thank you, ill have to try it out later. I was unable to find much documentation on it.
02:11 < SandyTech> Astr0_Belt: NP
02:12 < sadbox> s/eight million miles/one CVS receipt/
02:12 < SandyTech> I'll stick with my old DIscovery. It's dumb as a box of rocks, none of this fancy infotainment shit to go wrong, and a basic set of hand tools covers 3/4ths of the work on it
02:12 < SandyTech> lol
02:13 < aName> SandyTech: I mean, most of an electric car's upkeep is just managing corrosion
02:13 < aName> Should be interesting in the northern climates
02:13 < SandyTech> true
02:13 < SandyTech> If they had any sense they'd be using more Aluminium and less steels
02:13 < aName> You end up with like, a gradient of salt-notsalt that wicks in moresalt.
02:13 < aName> Steel is soooooo cheap though
02:14 < SandyTech> IIRC Tesla is switching the battery cases on one particular model over to Inconel from steel
02:14 < aName> And they don't want to sell you one car every twenty years lol
02:14 < SandyTech> And there's the rub lol
02:14 < enix> urgh i wish bitcoin did it's job
02:15 < enix> So annoying invoicing in USD then charging in AUD
02:15 < enix> Considering woocommerce doesn't really like that
02:15 < aName> Did you align the crystals?
02:15 < enix> Yes and a rainbow came out
02:15 < enix> So needless to say
02:15 < enix> I now need to take a shit
02:16 < aName> woocommerce lol
02:16 < aName> "For your chakras and shit"
02:16 < precise> I once had a client that claimed to cure various forms of Cancer, MS, and Alzheimers, with Ozone.
02:16 < precise> Yes, Ozone.
02:17 < precise> Same client also sold tin foil shields for your cell phones so you don't get cancer.
02:17 < enix> wooowww wooocommerce wholesale module doesn't actually provide wholesale prices on the custom order form
02:17 < enix> what the fuck
02:18 < SandyTech> lol
02:18 < SandyTech> precise: my neighbor is into all that shit and is constantly jumping my fence to try and sell us on it
02:18 < SandyTech> He got even worse about it when he found out my wife is an amputee
02:19 < enix> and woocommerce doesn't do inline price editting anymore. So I have to adjust a discount on every line and then publish that. so the client get's "$30 for item A" then the discount at the bottom
02:19  * enix bangs head against wall
02:19 < precise> SandyTech: Shoot your neighbour for trespassing next time
02:19 < precise> ;)
02:19 < precise> pewpew
02:19 < SandyTech> So very tempting
02:19  * precise hands SandyTech's neighbour some Ozone
02:19 < precise> Here, this will help
02:19 < enix> Shoot me for being frustrated at myself next time
02:19 < SandyTech> Especially after he tried to sell my wife some essential oils horse shit while she was dealing with a super bad case of phantom pain
02:20 < precise> If any of you see Sysadmingoncraz or whatever, if Tampa wins tonight that fucker owes me a drink. I haven't seen him since he said he'd get me one.
02:20 < rhqq> ehh, i need to cheer myself up by buying some electronic gadget/tool, any suggestions? not more than $100
02:20 < precise> rhqq: Raspberry Pi
02:20 < precise> Arduino
02:20 < sadbox> rhqq: buy a seiko 5
02:20 < rhqq> i have one
02:20 < precise> Nerf gun
02:21 < rhqq> (raspi)
02:21 < SandyTech> Go to Automation Direct and buy yourself a PLC
02:21 < SandyTech> they're good fun
02:21 < aName> SandyTech: Ugh
02:21 < SandyTech> ladder logic is such fun to program
02:21 < aName> just no
02:21 < aName> ok?
02:21 < rhqq> yeah, but im traveling world in 3 weeks from now
02:21 < benjgvps> rhqq: RTLSDR
02:21 < aName> Yeah
02:21 < rhqq> i wont take my plc rack with me
02:21 < rhqq> ;p
02:21 < admiralspark> so precise, is that your server room with the bomb?
02:21 < SandyTech> ah, nvm then
02:22 < aName> Get yourself an RTLSDR receiver and transmitter
02:22 < sadbox> rhqq: it isn't... exactly electronic, but mechanical watches are fun
02:22 < rhqq> benjgvps: played with sdr 4 years ago
02:22 < rhqq> sadbox: like?
02:22 < aName> The receivers are just tv tuners and the transmitters are just VGA adapters
02:22 < aName> Then build some antennas
02:22 < sadbox> rhqq: like the seiko 5
02:22 < aName> Which is just wire and solder
02:22 < SandyTech> I *hate* ladder logic with a passion. I mean now that I understand it, it's not so bad but trying to figure the shit out made me want to hang myself
02:22 < aName> You could get a lot of fun out of a hundred bucks
02:23 < SandyTech> I mean it could be actual relay logic which is even worse
02:23 < SandyTech> At least you can troubleshoot relay logic with an IR gun and a bit of common sense
02:23 < rhqq> plc would be fun, but yeah, im leaving my place in 3 weeks form now
02:23 < rhqq> sadbox: im not a watch guy, iunno
02:23 < rhqq> thanks for the hint
02:24 < rhqq> i still have my texas instruments watch with 433mhz transmitter :P
02:24 < rpifan> i wanna play with 433
02:24 < precise> admiralspark: Wot?
02:25 < rhqq> http://www.ti.com/tool/EZ430-CHRONOS this one
02:25 < admiralspark> I figure you nano guys are the kind who would rig up a bomb like the one blowing up on reddit precise
02:25 < rhqq> i even complied my own software for it
02:25 < precise> What bomb?
02:25 < admiralspark> precise: https://www.reddit.com/r/whatisthisthing/comments/8kzx5p/some_kind_of_explosive_lying_on_the_floor_of/
02:25 < xamithan> The one in your server room
02:25 < SandyTech> I think my next electric toy is going to be some kind of SDR toy to play with at home
02:26 < admiralspark> SandyTech: get into amateur radio!
02:26 < rhqq> well, my friend constructs SDR shit for motorolla
02:26 < sadbox> SandyTech: mine will be a refractometer
02:26 < rhqq> like military grade ones
02:26 < rhqq> tetra-dimetra systems
02:26 < SandyTech> ooo
02:26 < rhqq> so yeah, had enough of it
02:26 < rhqq> ;p
02:26 < precise> admiralspark: what the fuck
02:26 < SandyTech> admiralspark: getting my GROL is on my list of things to do this year
02:26 < precise> How'd that jsut.... end up there?
02:26 < SandyTech> LOL That's an ATGM
02:26 < admiralspark> precise: former sysadmin left it apparently
02:27 < admiralspark> SandyTech: good deal! Same here
02:27 < admiralspark> my l1 anyway
02:27 < precise> wow...
02:27 < precise> How do you even get a hold of that?
02:27 < precise> wtf
02:27 < precise> None of this makes sense
02:27 < admiralspark> he's in Czech iirc
02:28 < admiralspark> so it was probably outside on the street corner
02:28 < admiralspark> ty russia
02:28 < SandyTech> precise: if its been demil'd you can get hold of all kinds of stuff
02:30 < SandyTech> one of the local whack a doodles has a demil'd Carl Gustaf
02:30 < SandyTech> which I'm almost certain he's 're-mil'd' illegally
02:32 < ThatOneRoadie> So he confirmed in the thread that the local police bomb squad said it was very live and wouldn't touch it with a 20 foot pole
02:32 < ThatOneRoadie> so they called military EOD
02:32 < ThatOneRoadie> https://www.reddit.com/r/whatisthisthing/comments/8kzx5p/some_kind_of_explosive_lying_on_the_floor_of/dzbu0dm/
02:33 < rhqq> would you guys replace your job with a your managers one ?
02:33 <+TuxedoJack> So, wonder how good their insurance policy is
02:33 < DLSteve> rhqq, No, my manager attends meetings all day and does budgets.
02:33 < mkillebrew> my boss just goes to more meetings. I hate meetings.
02:33 < rhqq> ok, givent there are not that many meetings
02:34 < mkillebrew> Are there more though?
02:34 < mkillebrew> any amount more is still more
02:34 < ThatOneRoadie> TuxedoJack, in most european countries EOD will handle that stuff for free
02:34 < ThatOneRoadie> due to the sheer amount of bombs n stuff dropped during WW2
02:35 < rhqq> yeah, shitload of stuff
02:35 < rhqq> still to be found
02:38 < xamithan> How much is a shitload?
02:38 < sadbox> rhqq: as a manager there are always that many meetings
02:38 < xamithan> Can you conver that to kilograms
02:38 < rhqq> sadbox: yeah, basically in a friendly corpo they fired a manager and his minions all suggested... me
02:39 < rhqq> since some of them worked for me...
02:39 < sadbox> rhqq: oh, wacky, I mean if it pays well
02:39 < sadbox> I personally prefer the engineering track
02:39 < xamithan> Why'd they fire him though.  I wouldn't want to be a scapegoat for the next fuckup
02:39 < sadbox> But I hate humans
02:39 < rhqq> yeah, kinda sorta
02:39 < rhqq> not sure
02:40 < rhqq> $$s is worse than i do now, but on the other hand nothing prevents me from keeping my remote job
02:40 < rhqq> but i used to work double duty 5 years ago and it was quite... draining
02:40 < rhqq> i could hire another person to help me out though
02:40 < rhqq> totally not sure,
02:41 < SandyTech> Do big chassis switches ever not end up looking like a damn rat's nest?
02:41 < xamithan> If you do cable managers from the start, no
02:41 < rhqq> going from tech to management sounds tempting though, then i could get up on a ladder every 5 years
02:41 < CheckYourSix> Do any of you use Microsoft Flow?
02:41 < xamithan> Er I mean yes
02:41 < hug> I would definitely move into management.
02:41 < hug> CheckYourSix: Yeah, for a bunch of stuff for a bunch of clients.
02:41 < hug> Mostly Sharepoint workflows and notifications though.
02:42 < rhqq> hug: even with initial income degradation?
02:42 < DLSteve> CheckYourSix, Kinda. I use Logic Apps.
02:42 < CheckYourSix> I just heard about it tonight for the first time. It looks interesting. Is it good software?
02:42 < hug> rhqq: I dunno about that. Depends on how much.
02:42 < rhqq> i'm on my own now, let's say i earn X
02:42 < hug> CheckYourSix: It's all web-based. The editor is complete trash, but it's a nicely powerful tool.
02:42 < rhqq> it'd be like 0.4*X  in there
02:42 < Astr0_Belt> Looks pretty much like IFFT
02:42 < hug> oof
02:42 < Astr0_Belt> hmm.
02:42 < hug> rhqq: nope, wouldn't do.
02:43 < DLSteve> CheckYourSix, Depends on what you are doing, it has some powerful interrogations if you stick to the popular applications.
02:43 < rhqq> yeah, for my country i'm in 98th percentile
02:43 < rhqq> of earnings
02:43 < CheckYourSix> DLSteve: I literally haven't looked at it for more than a minute
02:43 < CheckYourSix> Just now skimming over what it does
02:45 < DLSteve> Look at Azure Logic Apps as well, it's the more powerful version of Flow https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/logic-apps/
02:48 <@JollyRgrs> OMG! sometimes it is fun to look in spam folders
02:49 < rpifan> someone made a gofund me for a guy to go to bonaroo
02:49 < rpifan> and he got 130 dollar already
02:49 < rpifan> jesus
02:49 < rpifan> i should make one
02:49 < rpifan> i guess ppl just give money away
02:49 <@JollyRgrs> https://pastebin.com/V5D783kN
02:50 <@JollyRgrs> I am Mr.Will Clark, A senior officer at JFK International Airport. I am contacting you regarding an abandoned diplomatic consignment box and the x-ray scan report box revealed some U.S dollar bill in it which could be approximately 12,5Million Dollars and...
02:50 < SandyTech> lol
02:50 < SandyTech> I really wonder how people fall for that kind of stupidity
02:50 <@JollyRgrs> 2many
02:50 < SandyTech> Clearly it works though
02:50 <@JollyRgrs> should i quote P.T. Barnum?
02:51 < precise> JollyRgrs: I love browsing archives of spam
02:51 < precise> Some of the scams are hilarious
02:51 < SandyTech> lol
02:51 <@JollyRgrs> precise: you do it for the hopeful attachments of naked mens?
02:52 < precise> I do it to see what nationality I should begin to use in my joke scam emails
02:52 < precise> Nigeria is so 2005
03:00 < ThatOneRoadie> I mean if you want to do an actual Phishing test
03:00 < ThatOneRoadie> doll up a UPS invoice email
03:00 < ThatOneRoadie> and make the attachment .pdf.exe
03:00 < ThatOneRoadie> guaranteed to get at least 105
03:01 < ThatOneRoadie> 10%*
03:01 < rpifan> i need more money
03:01 < ThatOneRoadie> I just went under contract on a 365k house
03:01 < ThatOneRoadie> I also need more money
03:01 < ThatOneRoadie> plzkthx
03:02 < enix> urgh paypal getting 'too many redirects'
03:02 < enix> fuck me
03:03 < rpifan> why does dns redirect
03:03 < xamithan> Their CDN thinks he is a spammer
03:04 < rpifan> i see
03:05 < enix> works in firefox via a proxy
03:05 < enix> sooooo... wtf
03:06 < xamithan> That proxy isn't a spammer ;P
03:07 < enix> I'd really hope not. Although my new mail server got insta-blocked by hotmail because it's IP belongs to digital ocean
03:08 < enix> I had to email microsoft pleading for permission to send emails and they accepted me instantly and gave me some guidelines to prevent getting blocked. They won't even block me right away; they'll just throttle how many emails my server can send to theirs, which is fantastic
03:28 < misspwn_> ThatOneRoadie, congrats on the house
03:29 < ThatOneRoadie> Thanks (I think)
03:29 < ThatOneRoadie> let's hope I didn't over-extend
03:30 < ThatOneRoadie> (If I did the math right I didn't over-extend but math was my lowest ACT score sooooooo)
03:31 < misspwn_> hey if you're happy with it and have the means
03:32 < rpifan> hello misspwn_
03:32 < misspwn_> hi rpifan
03:33 < misspwn_> how's the grind?
03:33 < rpifan> today
03:33 < rpifan> i was able to work from home
03:33 < rpifan> it was lovely
03:33 < rpifan> was productive
03:33 < rpifan> no one bothered me
03:33 < rpifan> tlaked to me
03:33 < misspwn_> nice!
03:33 < rpifan> trying to say anything to me
03:33 < rpifan> i even got to work an extra hour
03:33 < enix> God love WFH
03:33 < rpifan> cause i didnt have to commute
03:33 <+TuxedoJack> AIn't it nice?
03:33 < xe0n> loll
03:33 < rpifan> i have to make a proposal to my boss
03:33 < rpifan> to let this be a more regular thign
03:33 < xe0n> loll
03:34 < Astr0_Belt> Ugh, why did esxi do away with the client in 6.7?
03:34 < rpifan> doenst have to be everyday
03:34 < rpifan> but severla days a week
03:34 < rpifan> would make a huge difference
03:34 < misspwn_> wfh has it's advantages for sure, even if a couple days a week i'd love that for sure
03:34 < misspwn_> i guess i can i just don't push it much unless i need to
03:35 < misspwn_> rpifan, glad you got a productive day out of it
03:35 < rpifan> yes
03:35 < rpifan> so wondeful
03:36 < misspwn_> got in this morning and after my monday meeting had to jump in the car and go to several places today because windows updates removed network drivers on several computers
03:36 < rpifan> wwooo
03:36 < misspwn_> it's weird that it doesn't happen to every one
03:37 < misspwn_> oo next week going to this bougie place to do a lasik consultation
03:38 < rpifan> nice
03:38 < rpifan> ive been thinking about it
03:39 < misspwn_> no idea how much it costs. i have a ballpark idea
03:39 < misspwn_> terrified for sure
03:39 < rpifan> 1,5 k
03:39 < misspwn_> per eye though
03:39 < misspwn_> i think i was guaging 1.5k per eye on the lower end
03:39 < precise> Anyone here ever use this camera, or Hikvision cameras for that matter? https://us.hikvision.com/en/products/cameras/network-camera/value-series/outdoor-bullet/fixed-focal/4-mp-wdr-mini-bullet-network-camera-ds-2cd2042wd-i
03:39 < precise> How are they?
03:40 < rpifan> yea
03:40 < misspwn_> mm not familiar with that. i could check to see exactly what we are using precise
03:40 <@JollyRgrs> precise: someone was just talking about them... MillerBOSS i think?
03:40 < precise> Oh?
03:40 <@JollyRgrs> he gave them praise
03:40 < estranger> misspwn_, nothing scary about peeling back your retina and getting shot in the eye w/ a laser
03:40 < precise> Awesome
03:41 < precise> I need to get some cameras to keep my crazy af neighbour in check
03:41 < misspwn_> estranger, more like, how are they going to keep me from freaking the fuck out and keep me from not pulling whatever it is keeping my eyes open
03:41 < precise> He left a naked barbie doll with legs and arms taped together in my other neighbours backyard
03:41 < estranger> good luck =)
03:41 < precise> I think he's trying to kill us with some voodoo or some shit
03:41 < misspwn_> he probably is
03:42 < precise> Yeah, he's off his rocker
03:42 < precise> Threatens to kill neighbourhood pets
03:42 < precise> Threatens to "use the guns he has" during confrontrations with others
03:42 < misspwn_> ugh
03:42 < precise> I could go on
03:42 < precise> And on
03:42 < precise> And on
03:42 < misspwn_> it's kinda one of those "i wish he would" but not at the same time
03:42 < precise> Yeah
03:43 < precise> I hope he fucks with my other neighbour
03:43 < precise> She packs and knows he's crazy af
03:43 < precise> He does something she's a good shot
03:43 < misspwn_> doesn't nest make cameras too now? i'm behind the times so i don't know how they compare to what you linked
03:43 <@JollyRgrs> anyone heard of grip6 belts?
03:43 < precise> misspwn_: It's a bit eh for my needs.
03:43 < precise> I'd rather roll my own
03:44 < precise> I also need nightvision at 20m and >=IP66
03:44 <@JollyRgrs> misspwn_: nest cams are kinda pricy and not very feature filled... they are only good if you REALLY buy all in to the whole google thing
03:45 < rpifan> i need a hair transplant first tho
03:45 < rpifan> beofre i do my eye
03:45 < precise> I'm gonna cover my backyard and frontyard as needed, along with porch, maybe driveway.
03:45 < precise> Won't be able to get within 20ft of my house without being on camera
03:46 <@JollyRgrs> precise: you gonna use zoneminder?
03:46 < precise> IDK yet
03:46 < precise> Maybe
03:46 < precise> I've used the Hikvision NVR software
03:46 < precise> never
03:46 < precise> again
03:46 < precise> Fuck that client
03:46 <@JollyRgrs> lol
03:46 < precise> They tried to run 15 HD cams over a 10mbps uplink to another site with 50mbps down
03:46 < precise> Wanted a 4x4 stream on their computer
03:47 < precise> lol not gonna happen
03:47 <@JollyRgrs> lol
03:47 < precise> You'd be better off running some ubiquiti air fiber between the two buildings that are 2 miles apart
03:47 < precise> lol
03:47 <@JollyRgrs> ok, so is it worth extra $$$ to get a carbon fiber belt buckle (thinking about for getting through TSA)
03:48 < precise> How often you pass through TSA?
03:48 < precise> Do you have prechec
03:48 <@JollyRgrs> well, currently, i've only been through twice
03:48 <@JollyRgrs> i'll prob be flying 4-5 times a year with my promotion if it ever goes through
03:48 <@JollyRgrs> int'l
03:48 <@JollyRgrs> maybe just 2-3
03:48 < precise> Nah
03:48 < precise> I wouldn't, no need
03:48 < precise> How much time it save?
03:48 < precise> 30 seconds?
03:48 <@JollyRgrs> i mean, it is also super light weight
03:48 <@JollyRgrs> not thinking about time
03:49 < precise> Well I mean
03:49 < precise> If you like the belt
03:49 < precise> Get the belt
03:49 <@JollyRgrs> i have no butt... so pants kinda fall off w/o a belt
03:49 < precise> But just for TSA?
03:49 < precise> Nah
03:49 < precise> lol
03:49 < precise> TIL something new about JollyRgrs
03:49 <@JollyRgrs> i do like the belt.. .but right now... like $35 vs $90
03:49 < precise> JollyRgrs is Hank Hill
03:49 <@JollyRgrs> HAHAHA
03:49 < precise> What are your views on propane?
03:49 <@JollyRgrs> i grill with propane and propane accessories
03:50 < precise> Good
03:50 < gnupluslinux> do you grill with anything else precise
03:50 < precise> gnupluslinux: Charcoal, wood.
03:50 < gnupluslinux> g
03:50 < gnupluslinux> t
03:50 < gnupluslinux> f
03:50 < gnupluslinux> o
03:50 < precise> gnupluslinux: Your mom sometimes
03:50 < precise> gawd
03:50 < gnupluslinux> my mother's a saint! she'd never go with you you dirty charcoal griller!
03:51 < precise> This hockey game is getting intense
03:51 < precise> They gonna kill eachother
03:51 <@JollyRgrs> i've only ever grilled once w/ charcoal... it was at my wife's grandma's house and they wanted me to grill my delicious burgers
03:51 < precise> gnupluslinux: Charcoal gives it a taste that gas can't
03:51 < precise> IDKY everyone hates Charcoal
03:51 < precise> It adds a whole new dimension to the food
03:51 <@JollyRgrs> precise: it isn't the taste they hate
03:51 < Church-> gnupluslinux: Oh hey you're in there. :D
03:51 < gnupluslinux> precise, we are now no longer friends
03:51 <@JollyRgrs> it is the mess
03:51 < enix> propane is good for starting your shisha coal
03:51 < precise> gnupluslinux: aight
03:51 < precise> JollyRgrs: ffs
03:51 < gnupluslinux> propane is the only choice
03:51 <@JollyRgrs> so i walk out, turn a knob or two and push in the starter button
03:51 <@JollyRgrs> poof
03:52 < precise> Learn to clean up your messes
03:52 < precise> Man the fuck up
03:52 < gnupluslinux> taste the meat, not the heat!
03:52 <@JollyRgrs> my meat tastes quite nice
03:52  * precise puts JollyRgrs over his George Foreman grill
03:52 <@JollyRgrs> at least my wife tells me so :P
03:52 < gnupluslinux> people actually use starter buttons?
03:52 <@JollyRgrs> precise: hey! those have their place
03:52 < precise> lol
03:52 < precise> I know
03:52 < gnupluslinux> or are we talking the handheld jiggers
03:52 <@JollyRgrs> gnupluslinux: why? mine works
03:52 < precise> Piezoelectric igniters are dope
03:52 < gnupluslinux> JollyRgrs, i've never had one that works :( at least not one that's built in
03:52 < precise> Fuckin Magic
03:53 <@JollyRgrs> it's just basically a battery with wires at the end that makes it go "ZAP ZAP ZAP ZAP ZAP" until it goes "whoosh"
03:53 < precise> JollyRgrs: It doesn't have batteries tho
03:53 <@JollyRgrs> gnupluslinux: i never have a problem
03:53 <@JollyRgrs> precise: well, the OLD ones do, i dunno what mine now even has
03:53 <@JollyRgrs> it just works
03:53 < gnupluslinux> yeah for whatever reason the built in ones i've had always seemed to crap out
03:53 <@JollyRgrs> so i'm fine... when it breaks i'll look into it
03:53 < gnupluslinux> it just works(tm)
03:53 < precise> Or
03:53 < precise> Or
03:53 < rpifan> i really wish i could get some kind of laser skin thing
03:53 < precise> Lighterfluid
03:53 < rpifan> to remove this testicular cancer scar
03:53 < gnupluslinux> get you one of them bunsen burner igniter things
03:53 < precise> And Charcoal
03:53 < rpifan> its not super bad
03:54 < rpifan> bugt i dont like it
03:54 < gnupluslinux> flick
03:54 < gnupluslinux> flick
03:54 < gnupluslinux> flick
03:54 < gnupluslinux> WHOOSH
03:54 < precise> lol
03:54 < rpifan> misspwn_,
03:54  * JollyRgrs recalls when homer simpson tried to use lighter fluid
03:55 < rpifan> good episode
03:55 < abakedapplepie> gasoline works
03:55 < precise> abakedapplepie: If you hate eyebrows, yeah
03:55 < abakedapplepie> we used to burn our trash up north
03:56 < abakedapplepie> got lazy one month and the pile grew larger than usual
03:56  * precise burns his backyard refuse
03:56 < gnupluslinux> Church-, oh yeah how long you been following that guy
03:56 < rpifan> burning the soil
03:56 < gnupluslinux> absolutely nuts man
03:56 < rpifan> is a common practice in south america
03:56 < abakedapplepie> my roommate decided to put over a gallon of gas on it when i asked him to gas the pile
03:56 < rpifan> they set fire to the fields
03:56 < abakedapplepie> i lit it
03:56 < gnupluslinux> legitimately cant tell if he's a troll or just not right in the head
03:56 < rpifan> during the winter
03:56 < abakedapplepie> it was terrible
03:56 < precise> abakedapplepie: rip
03:56 < abakedapplepie> flaming trash flying through the air
03:56 < abakedapplepie> my neighbor comes running out in his bathrobe
03:56 < abakedapplepie> screaming obscenities
03:56 < abakedapplepie> huuuuuge fireball
03:56 < precise> fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck -abakedapplepie
03:57 < abakedapplepie> im running through the snow stomping out burning trash
03:57 < abakedapplepie> the fire dept came
03:57 < precise> lmao
03:57 < abakedapplepie> talked my way out of anything serious
03:57 < abakedapplepie> no bills in the mail
03:57 < precise> Yeah man
03:57 < precise> It just sploded
03:57 < abakedapplepie> fire dept can be expensive
03:57 < precise> IDK what happened
03:57 < abakedapplepie> burning trash was legal and encouraged in this particular area
03:57 < abakedapplepie> municipal pickup was very expensive
03:57 < abakedapplepie> $5 a bag or so
03:57 < precise> I think my friend mixed vinegar and baking soda or something...
03:58 < abakedapplepie> but yeah, jesus
03:58 < abakedapplepie> i learned a lesson
03:58 < abakedapplepie> be specific
03:58 < abakedapplepie> some people have never lit a gas soaked fire before
03:59 < abakedapplepie> i briefly had a pants shitting moment as the fire whooshed horizontally almost around me
03:59 < abakedapplepie> but it wasnt bad
03:59 < xe0n> only shit your pants a little?
03:59 < abakedapplepie> i was bundled for the winter so i didnt have any burnt hair or anything
03:59 < abakedapplepie> ive lit plenty of fires
03:59 < abakedapplepie> i knew it was nbd
03:59 < abakedapplepie> was more worried about the fire dept when they showed up
04:00 < abakedapplepie> and my extremely frustrated backwoods yooper ass neighbor with god knows how many shotguts hanging on his wall
04:00 < abakedapplepie> probably triggered 'nam flashbacks with that fireball
04:00 < precise> abakedapplepie: Some of those synthetic winter coats burn like a motherfucker
04:00 < abakedapplepie> i wore a canvas jacket back then
04:00 < precise> Fair enough
04:00 < abakedapplepie> i really embraced the yooper lifestyle
04:00 < abakedapplepie> i love the yoop
04:01 < abakedapplepie> came home and for months had people ask me why i was trying to sound canadian
04:01 < abakedapplepie> lol
04:01 < abakedapplepie> and to be fair, i was probably only wearing a sweater at the time
04:01 < abakedapplepie> lol
04:01 < abakedapplepie> i wore shorts in -40f
04:01 < Church-> gnupluslinux: He's been popping in for like... six months.
04:01 < abakedapplepie> that was more just to say i did though
04:03 < gnupluslinux> Church-, ah i've only been there really for the past day or so. got logs from farther back but never paid attention
04:05 < Church-> Aye
04:08 < precise> lm-eh-o
04:10 < gnupluslinux> this guy's fucking nuts
04:12 < rhqq> who is
04:12 < gnupluslinux> precise,
04:12 < gnupluslinux> he's insane
04:13 < gnupluslinux> absolute unit
04:13 < precise> Yes
04:13 < precise> Absolute unit
04:13 < precise> 1 unit
04:13 <@JollyRgrs> G....
04:13 <@JollyRgrs> unit?
04:13 < precise> U N I T
04:13 < precise> N
04:13 < precise> I
04:13 < precise> T
04:14 < rhqq> eh, still unsure what to buy for myself L.
04:14 < rhqq> :/
04:14 < gnupluslinux> G G G G UNIT
04:14 < precise> Unit now no longer is a word in my brain
04:14 < rhqq> any gadget/tool/nice-to-have for $100
04:14 < matty_r> suck my unit
04:14 < precise> rhqq: Electric donger
04:14 < matty_r> g'day all
04:14 < gnupluslinux> a knife!
04:14 < rhqq> i have a decent multitool from victorinox
04:14 < xamithan> Get youself a vibrator
04:14 < rhqq> and i barely use it really
04:15 < precise> rhqq: Get a big, full-wu-tang knife
04:15 < gnupluslinux> get you a nice little full tang number
04:15 < gnupluslinux> full tang wu tang
04:15 < precise> ^
04:15 < gnupluslinux> Church-, lol i cant take this guy
04:15 < precise> gnupluslinux: Who?
04:16 < precise> Is it JollyRgrs ?
04:16 < precise> I bet its JollyRgrs
04:20 < Church-> precise: Weirdo in a channel with me and gnupluslinux
04:20 < precise> Definitely JollyRgrs
04:20 <@Nostalg14c> Morning.
04:21 < precise> Hey
04:21 < rhqq> hey Nostalg14c
04:25 < PrincessZoey> I'm pretty much blackout drunk and still doing tech support. my boss doesn't suspect a thing.
04:26 < Church-> PrincessZoey: Oh hey you're back
04:26 < PrincessZoey> yeah
04:26 < rhqq> PrincessZoey: where do you work?
04:26 < PrincessZoey> rhqq: tiny mom and pop shop for another few weeks
04:27 < PrincessZoey> I'm a giant lightweight and I've drank 1/3 of a 750ml bottle of vodka, three cans of monster and a bottle and a half of mtn dew.
04:29 < enix> OH LOOK WHO DECIDES TO GRACE US WITH HIS PRESENCE
04:29 < enix> SO VERY NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN Nostalg14c
04:29 < rhqq> wasnt he from like... phili ?
04:29 <@Nostalg14c> ty beb
04:29 < rhqq> that'd explain his "morning"
04:29 < precise> TFW bullshit no-icing call leads to a goal
04:29 < precise> Fuck you NHL
04:29 < precise> Learn to officiate properly
04:29 < enix> I got a new job finally Nostalg14c. Doing sysadmin for australia zoo
04:30 < rhqq> what do you do?
04:30 < enix> Will be good to be in charge of my own systems again.. getting fed up with this current company a little bit :P
04:30 < rhqq> feed penguins?
04:30 <@Nostalg14c> enix: really? noice.
04:30 < enix> rhqq: hopefully
04:30 < enix> What's been shakin' with you Nostalg14c been ages since I seen you in here
04:30 <@Nostalg14c> Yeah went on holidays for a week.
04:30 <@Nostalg14c> Crashed a scooter.
04:30 <@Nostalg14c> Took another week off work.
04:30 < enix> hahaha
04:30 <@Nostalg14c> And here I am.
04:30 < enix> good effort mate
04:31 < enix> did you crash a scooter overseas?
04:31 <@Nostalg14c> Yeah
04:31 < enix> Where'd you go
04:31 <@Nostalg14c> Bali
04:31 < enix> ahh
04:31 < enix> no damage i hope
04:32 <@Nostalg14c> Memory loss / concussion
04:32 <@Nostalg14c> lots of road rash
04:32 <@Nostalg14c> gf fractured shoulder blade
04:32 <@Nostalg14c> Good times.
04:32 < precise> Nostalg14c: Hey man, I for some reason got removed from autoop, can you please do the needful?
04:32 <@Nostalg14c> Literally was expecting that question Prec
04:32 < precise> lmao
04:32 <@Nostalg14c> precise: but thought enix would be the one.
04:32 < precise> heh
04:33 < enix> whats autoop
04:33 <@Nostalg14c> Join the channel and get auto opped.
04:33 < precise> enix: Get opped automatically by chanserv on join
04:33 < enix> I DID NOT KNOW THIS EXISTS
04:33 < enix> WHY HAVE I NOT BEEN INVITED
04:33 <@Nostalg14c> It's not enabled here anyway.
04:33 < precise> Oh?
04:34 < precise> I thought it was
04:34 < enix> But jesus dude you didn't hold back with that crash. Hope you and your missus are healing up okay!
04:34 <@Nostalg14c> Yeah we're okay, she's still off work for a bit. her hand got some deep wound + shoulder fracture means she needs to not use her arm.
04:34 <@Nostalg14c> But.. could've been worse, no broken bones and we are alive.
04:34 <@Nostalg14c> So that's that.
04:35 < precise> Memory loss is worse than I thought...
04:35 < enix> That's it. Plus now you have an awesome story to tell at parties
04:35 < enix> precise: yeah it's super bad for you
04:35  * precise smacks enix 
04:35 < precise> GET O
04:35 < precise> GET OUT OF MY HOUSE
04:35 < enix> YOU WANT TO FUCKING GO MATE
04:35  * precise smacks enix again
04:35 < precise> I'll ruin u
04:35 < enix> Put your donger where your dong is mate
04:37 < enix> FUUCK
04:37 < precise> fuckin rekt
04:37 < enix> Did I just get banned from donger wth hahaha
04:37 < precise> yes
04:37 < precise> yes u diod
04:37 < enix> how long for
04:37 < precise> 20 min
04:37 < enix> Goddamn. What am I going to do for the rest of the day...
04:37 < precise> lol
04:37 < enix> I could go masterbate... but then I'd still have 19 minute to fill
04:38 < precise> bruh
04:38 < rhqq> hey, anyone can translate from english to english one thing for me?
04:38 <@JollyRgrs> i only speak english,l but i'll try
04:38  * precise chuckles
04:39 < rhqq> so `man runuser` contains:  For  backward compatibility, runuser defaults to not change the current directory and to only set the environment variables HOME and SHELL (plus USER and LOG‐NAME if the target user is not root).  This version of runuser uses PAM for session management.
04:39 < enix> right
04:39 < rhqq> and now i'm totally unsure whether -l options (lowercase L) changes CWD
04:40 <@Nostalg14c> what distro?
04:40 < rhqq> that manpage is same across distros really
04:40 < rhqq> debian/arch have same
04:40 <@Nostalg14c> Change the effective user id and group id to that of USER. Only session PAM hooks are run, and there is no password prompt. This command is useful only when run as the root user. If run as a non-root user without privilege to set user ID, the command will fail as the binary is not setuid. As runuser doesn't run auth and account PAM hooks, it runs with lower overhead than su.
04:40 < enix> rhqq: it should change the cwd
04:41 < enix> test it on your distro and see
04:41 < enix> manpage explicitly says it changes the cwd in rhel
04:41 < rhqq> oh, nice
04:41 < enix> Sorry, that was on ubuntu
04:42 < rhqq> it's annoying that it does not let you specify cwd
04:43 < enix> You can run a config file to specify that cant you
04:43 < rhqq> umm, i cant see that option for runuser
04:45 < rhqq> well, -l does change cwd
04:45 < rhqq> annoying
04:48 < rpifan> doesanyone know what the fuck twilio does
04:48 < precise> Yeah
04:48 < precise> But I forget
04:48 < rhqq> ?
04:48 < rhqq> whats wrong with twillio
04:48 <@Nostalg14c> sms / voice api
04:49 < rhqq> ah, i thought theres an outage
04:49 < rhqq> ;p
04:49 < rhqq> or messed up change
04:49 < rpifan> why do they exist
04:49 < rpifan> why cant u just run an asterisk server
04:49 < rpifan> to do voice
04:50 < rhqq> sometimes you cant get your local isp to give you a phone line you like, or you want to text customers all around the wolrd
04:51 < rhqq> you know, everything as a service....
04:51 < rpifan> yea fuck that cloud blackbox shit
04:52 < rhqq> not really, i dont miss any of that
04:52 < rhqq> i enjoy having my sms api
04:52 < rpifan> i dont like everything as a service
04:52 < rpifan> its capitalism in extremis
04:52 < rhqq> i dont mind capitalism ;-)
04:52 < rhqq> nobody forces you to use that
04:53 < rhqq> but it's nice to have an alternative, right?
04:54 < rpifan> idk abotu taht
04:54 < rpifan> so my company now has twilio
04:54 < rpifan> is there anyway i can take advantage of that
04:54 < rpifan> i think were gonna use it with customers
04:54 < rpifan> and shit
04:54 < rpifan> but maybe we can use it for internal stuff
04:54 < rpifan> idk
04:54 <@Nostalg14c> can your asterix box call someone and use text to speech to relay a message with 5 minutes of setup.
04:54 < rhqq> i use such thing for alerting
04:55 < rhqq> plus if alert is unacknoledget for 10 minutes i have my service call me
04:55 < rhqq> geez
04:55 < rhqq> unacknowledged
04:55 < rhqq> i need to hit the hay
04:56 < rpifan> i dont relaly kno wanything about this twilio thing
04:56 < rpifan> my company has it
04:56 < rpifan> do i need to ask them for an api key or something
04:56 < MillerBOSS> Twilio can do a lot.
04:57 < MillerBOSS> Like at least 10+ services last I looked
04:57 < rhqq> yeah, no need to hate them. it's actually quite powerful and nice
04:57 < rhqq> however a bit too expensive for my taste
04:57 < MillerBOSS> I didn't scroll up in the convo here though just looked at the channel
04:59 < MillerBOSS> Twilio has a WebRTC feature that does something other than voice which I see in my Little Snitch pop ups / macOS interactive firewall.
04:59 < MillerBOSS> Like a stun server
04:59 < MillerBOSS> Unifi controller uses it
05:00 < MillerBOSS> Thats where I remember to get through the firewall even though UPNP is off
05:00 < enix> Did you guys see that 'laziest sysadmin' post from a couple years ago?
05:00 < rpifan> but i was asking
05:00 < enix> Old mate setup twilio to sms his wife with a random excuse as to why he was coming home late
05:00 < rpifan> since m company is using twilio now
05:00 < rpifan> can i ask them for an api key
05:00 < rpifan> or how does ti work
05:00 < rpifan> u pay per user?
05:00 < enix> And if he was running late to work I think it auto sent an excuse to his boss
05:01 < enix> rpifan: you ask for an API, you'll be given credentials and I belive it's a rest api
05:01 < rhqq> rpifan: depends on the service. don't make us open up their webpage, read it for you and then give you tl'dr
05:01 < rhqq> your company pays you to do this shit on your own
05:01 < MillerBOSS> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STUN Ahh OK this makes sense  It provides a tool for hosts to discover the presence of a network address translator, and to discover the mapped, usually public, Internet Protocol (IP) address and port number that the NAT has allocated for the application's User Datagram Protocol (UDP) flows to remote hosts. The protocol requires assistance from a third-party network server
05:01 < MillerBOSS>  (STUN server) located on the opposing (public) side of the NAT, usually the public Internet.
05:01 < MillerBOSS> So not exactly like UPNP at all. Just helps get through the firewall back and forth
05:01 < enix> rpifan: you'll basically be given a URL from memory. You plug everything in there via get for simple messages
05:02 < rpifan> hmm
05:02 < rhqq> ok, time to `poweroff` myself
05:02 < rhqq> cya
05:02 < MillerBOSS> NOOOO
05:02 < rpifan> maybe ill ask my direct boss first
05:02 < enix> have fine cya mate
05:02 < rpifan> before asking
05:02 < rpifan> on the slack channel
05:02 < MillerBOSS> This is slack?
05:02  * MillerBOSS looks at client
05:02 < rpifan> no
05:02 < rpifan> i mean at work
05:02 < MillerBOSS> rpifan 👉 I gotta tell ya you are an interesting character. :P
05:02 < rpifan> thats how it works
05:02 < rpifan> u need anything
05:02 < rpifan> u ask on the company slack
05:03 < MillerBOSS> I know. Just giving you a hard time
05:03 < rpifan> well as long as u like me
05:03 < MillerBOSS> I wouldn't worry if someone likes you or not
05:04 < rpifan> y not
05:04 < MillerBOSS> If I do not like you there are 7,442,00,00,000 others that might
05:04 < MillerBOSS> Forgot a zero there
05:05 < MillerBOSS> two zeros lol
05:06 < gnupluslinux> i demand +F
05:06 < MillerBOSS> Nice demand
05:06 < rpifan> lol
05:06 < gnupluslinux> fulfill my petty wishes
05:07 < Jay-Ros> howdy gents
05:07 < MillerBOSS> Jay-Ros is here
05:07 < MillerBOSS> Right on time
05:08 < MillerBOSS> How goes it?
05:08 < Jay-Ros> It goes well thanks :)
05:09 < rpifan> +F
05:10 < PrincessZoey> hey y'all, how do I get around https://www.dropbox.com/s/bpmzi1qwzewldme/Screenshot%202018-05-21%2022.09.38.png?dl=0 when trying to map a drive that other PC's are mapped to?
05:11 < nohusuro> it's not that other PC's are mapped to the drive, it's that the current computer already has a mapping for that particular computer
05:11 < MillerBOSS> Anything broke yet Jay-Ros ?
05:11 < nohusuro> use "net use" in the command line to see what's currently mapped
05:11 < nohusuro> it's likely just an IPC$ session that you can kill
05:12 < Jay-Ros> ^ Super lazy way: Create a DNS alias
05:13 < Jay-Ros> MillerBoss: Nope! I've worked out a couple of bugbears, replaced the BackupExec disk backup with a Veeam hyper-V backup for our third-site Exchange DAG witness
05:13 < MillerBOSS> Wow you are getting a lot done compared to me.
05:13 < MillerBOSS> :P
05:14 < Jay-Ros> then I knocked out a slow cooked roast pork on turkish, and now back to writing my master doc for 'Operation Overhaul' for DFSR/SQL/WSUS/Auto Wininstall and reboot scheduling/Backups
05:14 < Jay-Ros> I'm going to have all this shit documented, drawn out, scheduled, grouped up, packaged and executed so I never ever need to ever touch it again
05:15 < Jay-Ros> then i can go about my task of being paid a reasonable amount of money to sit at my desk and think about the mystery of my belly button
05:16 < gnupluslinux> like why ya havent cleaned it out yet with some good ol witch hazel ya nasty
05:17 < enix> It's been too long since this was posted here: https://github.com/NARKOZ/hacker-scripts
05:18 < gnupluslinux> i love that story
05:18 < enix> I legitimately want to reach his level at my new job
05:18 < Jay-Ros> enix - the coffee machine?
05:19 < enix> Jay-Ros: + smackmybitchup
05:19 < rpifan> omg
05:19 < rpifan> those are aweosme
05:19 < rpifan> iw onder if they are really real
05:20 < enix> 100% could be
05:20 < gnupluslinux> everything posted on the internet is real
05:20 < enix> If you worked in a job where your presences is a luxury, 100% possible
05:20 < rpifan> like the bofh
05:20 < gnupluslinux> for instance i am a 12 ft hippo with silver wings
05:20 < rpifan> i believe
05:20 < rpifan> i wonder if our coffee machine
05:20 < rpifan> has a tcp stack
05:21 < rpifan> its one of those
05:21 < rpifan> that
05:21 < rpifan> uses the freshpak (tm)
05:22 < Jay-Ros> rpifan - at home, this needs to be connected to a xiaomi sensor that picks up the first movement in the bathroom in the morning
05:22 < rpifan> https://www.amazon.com/FLAVIA-ALTERRA-Coffee-Baristas-20-Count/dp/B004WI1XIE/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_tr_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=Z3GNDFDY44W9G6SK5WXS
05:22 < rpifan> those kinds
05:22 < rpifan> why xiaomi
05:23 < Jay-Ros> because they are cheap as fuck... there'd be other ones; it's just the first to pop in my head
05:23 < rpifan> thats the one we got at work
05:23 < rpifan> https://www.marsdrinks.com/solutions/machines/flavia-barista/
05:24 < rpifan> 3k machine apparently
05:25 < gnupluslinux> Jay-Ros, i think it'd be neat to rig up your coffee to start brewing when you flush or something
05:25 < gnupluslinux> that way it'll still be good after your morning poop
05:25 < Jay-Ros> exactly!
05:25 < rpifan> eww hacker scripts in ruby
05:25 < rpifan> bad ruby
05:35 < Jay-Ros> right - anyone know anything about DAG management on exchange?
05:36 < Jay-Ros> I need to work out the implementation of failover on the mailboxes, for patching
05:37 <@Nostalg14c> ye
05:37 <@Nostalg14c> what version? 2010/2013?
05:37 < PrincessZoey> FUCK quickbooks
05:37 < PrincessZoey> anyone here use o365?
05:38 < Jay-Ros> 2013
05:38 < Jay-Ros> 2012 r2
05:38 < enix> yeah why
05:38 < PrincessZoey> boss said she read somewhere she can't run 365 and office 2003 on the same machine, truth ?
05:38 < enix> probably
05:38 < Jay-Ros> office 2003?
05:38 < PrincessZoey> yes. we need it for ONE stupid fucking file
05:38 < Jay-Ros> you used to be able to get around tat PrincessZoey by firing up an app-v instance of office 2003
05:38 <@Nostalg14c> Jay-Ros: https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/nawar/2014/03/30/exchange-2013-maintenance-mode/
05:39 < PrincessZoey> one of our labels only prints correctly in 2003
05:39 <@Nostalg14c> automate scripts @ bottom of that post.
05:39 < PrincessZoey> and instead of redoing it and faffing with avery we just keep putting 2003 on PC's
05:39 < Jay-Ros> Nostalg14c, ah, that's the way I was thinking of doing it
05:40 < Jay-Ros> PrincessZoey, https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/uspartner_ts2team/2010/11/30/how-to-sequence-office-2003-with-app-v/
05:41 < Jay-Ros> might be beneficial to take a look at that, you can compartmentalise the office 2003 install
05:41 < PrincessZoey> can I run app-v on win 10 pro?
05:42 < Jay-Ros> PrincessZoey, https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/application-management/app-v/appv-getting-started
05:42 < Jay-Ros> win10 getting started
05:42 < Jay-Ros> also https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/application-management/app-v/appv-enable-the-app-v-desktop-client
05:44 < PrincessZoey> you da man Jay-Ros
05:44 < Jay-Ros> App-V is to be outdated soon, but seeing as though you're running something so old, I'm sure that's barely worth worrying about :)
05:44 < PrincessZoey> STOP DRINKING ZOEY FOR FUCKS SAKE
05:46 < PrincessZoey> I've drank almost 1/2 of a 750ml bottle of vodka tonight
05:47 < genr8_> how do you handle it
05:48 < PrincessZoey> because I've drank 3 cans of monster and 2 20oz bottles of mtn dew with it
05:48 < PrincessZoey> so I don't feel drunk
05:49 < genr8_> you will
05:49 < genr8_> lol
05:49 < PrincessZoey> yeah, I'm waiting for part floor
05:50 < PrincessZoey> This much vodka! https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/nNOll8Dt/1526961029.JPG
05:50 < genr8_> thats tequila
05:50 < genr8_> er
05:50 < genr8_> floor
05:51 < genr8_> u got a side of pickles too
05:51 < PrincessZoey> yep
05:52 < genr8_> pickle your self up
05:53 < PrincessZoey> I'm honestly wondering how much longer until I close my eyes and it's tomorrow
05:55 <@JollyRgrs> about 5 minutes if you were to be on the eastern side of the continent
05:56 < gnupluslinux> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shitposting i love that there's a wiki page for this
05:57 < binaryhermit> PrincessZoey: I've got 1h3m until that happens if you still live where I think you do
06:00 < PrincessZoey> my boss got a crash course in windows 10 today.
06:00 < PrincessZoey> it went better than I feared.
06:00 < PrincessZoey> well, former boss.
06:00 < PrincessZoey> she did fire me
06:00 < enix> Why dont we start a crypto currency, base it on the value of gold, then go from there
06:01 < enix> If you want to buy crypto you must provide gold.
06:01 < enix> If you want to buy your gold back, you give us the crypto value back
06:01 < enix> I just want to use fucking crypto
06:01 < genr8_> moving gold around is kind of a bitch
06:02 < mkillebrew> I get it from my postman and put it in my safe, pretty straight forward
06:02 < enix> ^
06:02 < gnupluslinux> does it drop it off on the way to your wife?
06:03 < gnupluslinux> wait, no that's the milkman
06:03 < gnupluslinux> your wife is a saint
06:03 < enix> You'd have enough money to just hire mark wahlberg as a delivery guy anyway
06:03 < Jay-Ros> gnupluslinux: you store it in the UPS so she doesn't find it
06:03 < gnupluslinux> mahky mahk waalbuhg
06:23 < aName> I found a colo that is geographically proximate to me - their prices quote in 1u and 20u ... is it typical that 2U is 2x and gets you 2x the spec?
06:32 < enix> Idk I think it really depends on who you're working with
06:32 < enix> I rarely do things the "normal way" and will often get quotes for what I specifically want... so it really depends
06:33 < PrincessZoey> I overshot ballmer peak. gdi
06:33 < enix> Last quote I got was liek $250/month 1ru
06:33 < genr8_> it can be negotiable
06:33 < enix> PrincessZoey: glhf
06:33 < PrincessZoey> I'm going to bed lol.
06:33 < enix> nighty night dont let the bed bugs bite
06:33 < enix> or do.. if you're into that.
06:33 < PrincessZoey> I've drank a total of 12.7oz of vodka, 4 cans of monster and almost 2 bottles of mtn dew
06:34 < enix> mixed together?
06:34 < PrincessZoey> yep
06:34 < PrincessZoey> actually tastes amazing
06:34 < PrincessZoey> 2nd favorite mixed drink
06:34 < Adagio> That sounds ghastly, yet strangely compelling.
06:34  * Adagio takes notes
06:35 < PrincessZoey> it's the white monster zero ultra with mtn dew code red
06:35 < Adagio> You mix that in a fuckin' blender or something?
06:35 < PrincessZoey> they mix really well.
06:35 < PrincessZoey> nope, two shots of vodka in a martini glass, then fill it with 50/50 monster and mtn dew
06:35 < Adagio> I'll be sure to entertain my next party with that
06:35 < Adagio> (jk, no friends)
06:35 < PrincessZoey> it's dangerous
06:36 < PrincessZoey> I should be passed out by now but I don't feel the least bit drunk
06:36 < PrincessZoey> 6 shots and I'm wasted usually
06:36 < enix> monster in a martini glass
06:36 < enix> I like your style fly girl
06:37 < PrincessZoey> This was unopened at 7pm https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/mYEVjvBh/1526963808.JPG
06:37 < enix> oh sugar free monster
06:37 < enix> shunnnnnnnn
06:37 < PrincessZoey> I don't like the taste of regular ones
06:37 < enix> :O
06:37 < enix> SHUN
06:38 < Adagio> PrincessZoey: What's your TZ?
06:38 < PrincessZoey> central
06:38 < PrincessZoey> it's 23:38 right now
06:38 < Adagio> Zut alors
06:38 < Adagio> Think I'll go back to Terraform and hot chocolate now, have fun with your thingy
06:39 < PrincessZoey> I'm going to bed
06:39 < PrincessZoey> I hope the floor doesn't spin
06:40 < enix> if the floors not spinning you're not drunk enough
06:44 < Church-> gnupluslinux: Watcha up?
06:44 < Church-> M'faffing about trying to think of something I can encode a TM into.
06:44 < Church-> PrincessZoey: Stop drinking.
06:44 < gnupluslinux> reading up on identityserver4
06:44 < Church-> Fun fun fun.
06:45 < gnupluslinux> i hate this doc style where it's "here's some quickstarts, read em and go!"
06:45 < Church-> Heh
06:45 < gnupluslinux> having to piece it together yourself is kind of a pita but w/e
06:45 < Church-> Also thinking of how to realistically apply this... iterative, CA like way of spawning corporations.
06:45 < enix> Church- as an aussie i'm offended by that statement
06:45 < enix> "stop drinking"
06:45 < Church-> heh
06:45 < enix> like we should even encourage that
06:45 < gnupluslinux> encode a TM? as in a pokemon technique machine?
06:46 < Church-> Well as an assue, get reckt'd yah cunt. :P
06:46 < Church-> gnupluslinux: Turing Machine
06:46 < enix> haha
06:46 < Church-> Like in the penrose tiling and Rule 31 Cellular automata.
06:47 < gnupluslinux> i was about to say, stop holding out on us and hand over that TM36
06:47 < Church-> lololol
06:47 < enix> gnupluslinux: TM36 which game
06:47 < gnupluslinux> GenI the only one that matters
06:48 < enix> gnupluslinux: here here
06:48 < Church-> Maybe I'll write a algo to plot out chess moves that encode a TM in their movements...
06:48 < Church-> I like Gen 2.
06:48 < enix> Church-: go get your TM36 and use it. Liberally
06:48 < Church-> lol
06:48 < enix> Gotta stop vaping in the office
06:48 < enix> Fucking hell.
06:49 < enix> It's such a unique cough too.. so people know
06:52 < aName> enix: I mean, I'll get a quote, but I'm just wondering
06:52 < aName> enix: Their site quotes 59/month 1ru
06:52 < aName> PrincessZoey: Ugh, are you my ex?
06:53 < aName> It was really something to watch a 100lb woman down half a bottle in an evening
06:53 < aName> And she loved Svedka
06:54 < aName> Anyway, a lot of these sites are like 'WHY COLO?' Look, I'm already sold on the idea of colo, how much?
06:55 < gnupluslinux> 25 sheckles
06:55 < gnupluslinux> nother 4 pips to run your own line
06:55 < aName> lol, I just want 2u, 10mbps and a couple hundred watts
06:55 < gnupluslinux> 12 niggles for the secondary circuit
06:56 < gnupluslinux> i dont know of colos that'll do just a 2u
06:56 < aName> There's one a couple blocks from my office that will do 1u
06:56 < gnupluslinux> usually its like a half rack/full rack type deal no?
06:56 < gnupluslinux> ah neat
06:56 < aName> 59/month
06:56 < aName> Going to call them tomorrow and find out if I can get that in a 2U for less than 2x lol
06:56 < gnupluslinux> kinda spensive imo since a full rack's like 400 but that's p good
06:57 < gnupluslinux> probably can, it's a sales thing
06:57 < aName> This is for a personal machine
06:57 < aName> I could never justify 400 a month
06:58 < aName> But 60ish? Yeah, it has enough benefit to me
06:58 < aName> Just something I'm mulling over
07:01 < gnupluslinux> could get a pretty decent vm and networking for $60/mo too i would think
07:01 < aName> Yeah, but there's some things I want to do with the hardware I can't really get in a VPS
07:01 < aName> I need to be able to render 3d graphics - even if I'm not actually looking at them lol
07:02 < aName> That gets really expensive, really quickly
07:02 < gnupluslinux> aye
07:02 < gnupluslinux> i thought about starting up a render farm at one point
07:03 < aName> nvidia will rent you top-end GPUs for like, fifty cents an hour
07:03 < gnupluslinux> be pretty neat to run a coupe racks and rent it out to render 4k tentacle porn at 120fps
07:03 < aName> Which for one-off is not so bad
07:03 < aName> But for 24/7/365, lol fuck that
07:03 < aName> Heh, I want to render EVE online clients
07:03 < aName> And then broadcast their video to youtube
07:04 < aName> And just park characters in certain chokepoint systems
07:04 < aName> My coworker was telling me about some scheme to buy GPU boxes in a rack somewhere and use them to mine crypto
07:05 < gnupluslinux> i really doubt it'd be profitable
07:05 < aName> I told him to triple-check the numbers, it sounded kind of iffy
07:05 < aName> But hey, if I'd gotten into BTC when I wanted to...
07:05 <+A-KO> hey so you guys wanna hear something funny?
07:06 < aName> ... I'd still have cashed out around a few grand in holdings because that'd have been huge money to me then
07:06 <+A-KO> I had a DC with lsass.exe that capped out at 11GB in ram.....on a domain with only a few dozen users O.O
07:06 < aName> A-KO: oooook
07:06 <+A-KO> all I gotta say is, the fuck? lol.
07:06 <+A-KO> but I shit you not
07:06 <+A-KO> box crashed due to resource exhaustion
07:06 < gnupluslinux> stop rendering tentacle porn
07:06 <+A-KO> inorite
07:06 < aName> You sure it's legit?
07:07 < aName> A lot of malware likes to name itself that
07:07 < aName> I mean, I should hope your DC isn't compromised
07:07 < aName> But uh...
07:07 < aName> Just something to double check.
07:08 < aName> Reminds me of when I had a script that did my job for me (I was doing tech support doing malware cleanup) but the company AV kept deleting it so I renamed it cmd.exe and the sysadmin contacted me about it
07:08 < aName> I told him that I knew what heuristic had tripped, and sent him three lines of code that would trip it
07:09 < aName> But that it was nothing scary
07:09 < aName> (Which ended up being a big part of how I got the job I have now)
07:10 < aName> gnupluslinux: Your idea might have worked 18 months ago
07:11 < aName> gnupluslinux: But uh, nvidia is going to be able to undercut you there
07:12 < aName> They don't have to pay inflated retail pricing on GPUs
07:12 < gnupluslinux> no doubt
07:12 < gnupluslinux> plus there's any number of dedicated render farms
07:12 < gnupluslinux> i'd probably need massive scale to make it worth
07:12 < aName> I think there's a medium-scale niche.
07:13 < aName> Couple dozen GPUs, rent them for a few days, ya know?
07:13 < aName> Process your science data or whatever
07:13 < aName> Probably finagle a tax cut if you keep it educational
07:13 < aName> Looooots of grad/PhD students who just need their data crunched
07:14 < aName> University resources take too long, they come to you
07:14 <@Nostalg14c> plenty of places to do that already
07:14 < aName> Probably. Doesn't mean gnupluslinux can't carve a slice for himself as a side hustle
07:16 < aName> Lots of people slinging coral frags, I've still got a little tank with racks. =p
07:16 < cantibot> christ, what the hell are you people doing here still?
07:16 < aName> cantibot: Slept until noon, have a cold. Took ephedrine for the lung inflammation, not even remotely tired.
07:16 < aName> cantibot: Plus - time zones are a thing
07:17 < cantibot> oh whatever you are totally in america
07:17 < aName> cantibot: I am. east coast, even
07:17 < cantibot> Georgia?
07:17 < aName> cantibot: New York
07:17 < cantibot> darn!
07:17 < aName> cantibot: I want to visit Atlanta, though
07:18 < aName> cantibot: You guys have a whale shark I can swim with
07:18 < aName> and that's amazing
07:18 < cantibot> The black mecca lol
07:18 < aName> They'll even loan me dive equipment!
07:18 < cantibot> Now that's an experience! XD
07:18 < aName> Right? And it's actually kinda cheap
07:18 < aName> 335USD
07:19 < aName> I'm trying to figure it out as a stop on the way to vegas
07:19 < cantibot> right that aint nothing spend all that at the strip club in like 3 hours
07:19 < aName> Like a one day layover
07:19 < MadCamel> well aint that the tits. colo doing emergency maintenance, <1hr notification, both "redundant" uplinks are dropped. Never trust the house bandwidth I tell ya... always crap..
07:19 < cantibot> Veeam just emailed me saying everything went great :D sorry you aren't having a good night.
07:19 < aName> MadCamel: Now let's be honest - we both know 'emergency' means 'shit broke fuckfuckfuck'
07:20 < aName> MadCamel: It sucks, but you've been on the other side, cut them some slack.
07:20 < aName> Some dude just got out of bed and is also very unhappy about this situation
07:20 < cantibot> go watch some asmr videos
07:20 < cantibot> have a smoke
07:21 < cantibot> everything will be okay
07:21 < aName> ^
07:21 < aName> I heard that chick from Parks and Rec did one?
07:21 < aName> That must have made a lot of people very happy
07:21 < MadCamel> I'm guessing lots of people are out of bed right now. I'm not going to cut them any slack because this is sort of a pattern of behavior. corexchange was okay but once zayo bought them it's been nothing but garbage.
07:21 < aName> MadCamel: Fair.
07:21 < MadCamel> a few months ago I lost both a & b power. I mean c'mon guys
07:21 < aName> MadCamel: Blame the suits, then.
07:21 < cantibot> zayo is just like...
07:22 < aName> MadCamel: I imagine the guys actually running things wish they had the money to do it right
07:22 < cantibot> zayo shit out onvoy too and that isn't a good tiem either!
07:22 < aName> MadCamel: But the new owners want to see profits up!
07:22 < aName> ... which is actually the opposite situation I'm in, lol
07:22 < MadCamel> gonna see me fly out there and rent a u-haul if they keep this crap up
07:23 < aName> Our new owners saw what we spent on IT and were like 'Umm, here's more'
07:23 < MadCamel> smart
07:23 < aName> Not a ton more. But at least I can make amazon purchases under 50 without it being a whole thing
07:24 < aName> lol
07:24 < aName> We did pick up a new disk array for the dev team
07:24 < aName> That thing is SO sexy
07:24 < MadCamel> what is it?
07:25 < aName> Something like 24 1TB SSDs
07:25 < aName> I know it's not the most amazing thing on the planet, but it's for three guys
07:25 < MadCamel> yeah that's pretty nice. must have an interesting use case
07:25 < aName> MadCamel: It's a clone of the production site and web service
07:26 < aName> MadCamel: And it's a pain to wait for queries when testing
07:26 < MadCamel> fairy nuff
07:26 < aName> MadCamel: right - I can't begrudge them that.
07:26 < aName> MadCamel: I'm just a little envious lol
07:27 < aName> MadCamel: Like I don't have a baller laptop
07:27 < aName> (Late 2016 Surfacebook)
07:27 < MadCamel> hmmmm... Isn't it a pain to wait for $x? ;)
07:27 < aName> Scored that when the VP was on a trip and it 'stopped charging' ... so he bought a new one
07:28 < Jay-Ros> i.e. new battery?
07:28 < aName> Jay-Ros: not even
07:28 < aName> Jay-Ros: new charger lol
07:28 < Jay-Ros> hahahah nice one
07:29 < MadCamel> speaking of batteries.. anyone know a reliable seller of new batteries for old devices? I have several discontinued but perfectly functional dell laptops in need of batteries. They are non-removable lipo packs. I'm afraid to buy ebay chinese knockoffs
07:29 < aName> Jay-Ros: Yeah, we busted his chops for that one
07:29 < MadCamel> because they won't hold charge or even worse they could catch fire
07:30 < aName> MadCamel: I'd check out hobbyking and see if you can find something suitable on there
07:30 < aName> MadCamel: They're skewed towards high-draw packs since they're sold for airplanes and such
07:30 < aName> MadCamel: But they're legit
07:31 < aName> Depends on what you mean by 'non removable' though
07:31 < aName> Does that mean 'you need a heatgun and a spudger'? or does it mean 'you need a dremel'?
07:32 < MadCamel> eh they pop right out once you have the bottom panel off the laptop. I just mean they're not user-replaceable
07:32 < aName> "NO USER SERVICEABLE COMPONENTS" "lol watch this"
07:32 < MadCamel> pretty much
07:33 < aName> FYI hobbyking does that thing where if you register and leave your cart you get a discount
07:35  * aName sighs
07:35 < MadCamel> nice. While I'm sure those batteries have wonderful reliability and energy density I don't think they'd work so well for this application. Has to be a particular size. Also there's a cell balancing system and an eeprom in there.
07:35 < aName> I wish battery density was good enough I could have an electric paramotor
07:35 < aName> MadCamel: Ah, yeah... I was assuming you'd just be swapping the cells
07:35 < MadCamel> I suppose I'll just have to find some similar sized cells and flash the eeprom to "new" state. It's entirely doable but.. ugh what a pain.
07:36 < aName> Yeah.
07:36 < aName> Doing it the hard way usually is.
07:36 < MadCamel> there's no easy way or I'd do that
07:37 < aName> The easy way is to buy a replacement on amazon
07:38 < MadCamel> you ever bought a knockoff battery? 99% of the time they're horrible. Usually just recycled batteries with a quick eeprom flash so they appear to have capacity
07:39 < aName> I guess I've been lucky.
07:39 < aName> I mean, I shop around a bit, I don't buy the cheapest one
07:39 < aName> Tell you what's obnoxiously expensive - ebike batteries.
07:40 < MadCamel> oh yeah
07:40 < aName> But they're like... 100+ high-draw 18650s
07:40 < aName> So
07:40 < aName> I guess
07:40 < aName> Can't use them in NYS anywya
07:40 < aName> *anyway
07:40 < aName> I mean, I'm white, so I can
07:40 < aName> But technically you can't
07:42 < aName> I know, that's horrible, but that's how it is
07:42 < MadCamel> huh? afaik they're legal in nys
07:42 < aName> Nope
07:42 < aName> They're in this weird gray area where you can't legally register them and you can't use an unregistered motor vehicle
07:43 < MadCamel> ah
07:43 < aName> So if the cop is a dick, or you're the wrong color...
07:43 < aName> ... "or" doesn't work
07:43 < aName> but you get my meaning
07:43 < MadCamel> yeah
07:44 < aName> I hoped they'd fucked up and said engine in the law
07:44 < aName> but of course they say motor
07:44 < MadCamel> can find used tesla 18650's on ebay sometimes
07:44 < aName> Yeah, I'd go with the samsung 25rs
07:44 < aName> They're a good blend of capacity, draw, price, and availability
07:45 < aName> You can get them for like four bucks a pop if you're patient
07:45 < MadCamel> I've been wanting to convert my hybrid car to a plug-in for a while but it's hard to justify building a battery pack that's worth more than the car itself
07:46 < aName> Do it because you want to do it, not because it's a smart investment
07:47 < aName> I want to do an electric "deuce coupe"
07:47 < aName> Like... get like, a 1996 Caravan
07:47 < aName> Put a 100kw electric motor in it
07:47 < MadCamel> that'd be pretty sweet
07:47 < aName> Put those little stick figure family stickers on the back window
07:48 < aName> It's silly, though
07:48 < aName> If I'm going to drop ten grand on a toy, I want to fly
07:48 < aName> I feel like there needs to be a word for adult toys that doesn't imply dildoes.
07:49 < aName> Like... a paramotor - it's a toy, OK?
07:49 < aName> It's dangerous and you should respect it and be catious
07:49 < aName> But it's not a practical thing - it's for pleasure.
07:49 < aName> And yet, everyone has this idea in their head that toys have to be safe
07:51 < hug> uh
07:51 < MadCamel> haha I hear you. the best toys aren't
07:51 < hug> Most people use the word 'toy' as analogous for 'something for children'
07:51 < hug> As soon as you take that context away, no one thinks toys have to be super safe.
07:52 < aName> hug: Right - so we need a word for toys for adults that doesn't imply prosthetic dicks
07:52 < Jay-Ros> 'Adult Non-bedroom toys'
07:52 < aName> hug: I'm not saying people are in an uproar or anything - just that there's a gap in the language
07:52 < aName> Jay-Ros: Too cumbersome.
07:53 < hug> If you're talking about something like a paramotor, the word would probably be hobbycraft
07:53 < aName> Jay-Ros: Also, that's 'discreet shipping' in a box labeled 'NOT PORN'
07:53 < aName> hug: Too specific, lol
07:53 < MadCamel> my boat sure as hell isn't safe. 13ft with an oversized motor. It's like riding a motorized surfboard that goes 80kph. I scrape a lot of bugs from my teeth.
07:53 < Jay-Ros> Oh fuck me, I was half reading... I'm probably signing up for paramotoring lessons next year hug
07:53 < aName> MadCamel: lol whatever floats yer... well
07:54 < Jay-Ros> I'm all about getting into that lifestyle...
07:54 < aName> Jay-Ros: dude. I started watching Tucker Gott
07:54 < aName> Jay-Ros: And now I want one so badly
07:54 < Jay-Ros> That's the kid that goes 15000 feet up into the air over the clouds, yeah/
07:54 < hug> Yeah
07:54 < Jay-Ros> yeah, he makes it look awesome
07:54 < aName> I wouldn't go quite that extreme with it
07:54 < hug> Jay-Ros: You're sydney, yeah?
07:54 < Jay-Ros> yeah
07:55 < aName> But it looks amazing
07:55 < hug> What's like.. the legalities of that sorta stuff in .au ?
07:55 < aName> And it's not TOO expensive
07:55 < aName> My dad was like 'Some guy crashed his homemade helicopter' and I explained to him that I could build a wing I'd trust with my life, but no one could build a helicopter I'd set foot in
07:56 < aName> Helicopters are just absurd.
07:57 < aName> Jay-Ros: I wish I could export coral from AU
07:57 < xe0n> loll
07:57 < aName> Jay-Ros: There's some absolutely amazing aquacultured Ricordea yuma sitting on racks in reef shops there that aussie reefers are bored of - and I could sell for hundreds
07:57 < xe0n> from the gbr?
07:58 < aName> xe0n: No, from a commercial aquaculture facility
07:58 < aName> xe0n: The corals people keep in home aquariums aren't really representative of what's in the wild
07:58 < aName> xe0n: We want the shiny ones, so we clone them
07:58 < xe0n> ah right
07:58 < aName> xe0n: But the export law isn't really cognizant of this
07:58 < xe0n> im not really into that stuff, but i did check some cool corals at aquariam the other day
07:59 < aName> xe0n: Check out a saltwater aquarium shop if you get a chance
07:59 < aName> xe0n: The stuff they have is usually MUCH nicer than public displays
07:59 < aName> More saturated color, more variety of growth forms, etc
07:59 < aName> Private collectors pay more for smaller pieces lol
08:00 < aName> I've seen a 1" fragment of acropora sell for 1000USD
08:01 < aName> See, most of them are brown or green, right? https://cache.reefbuilders.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2017/08/homewrecker-tenuis-acropora-2-770x619.jpg
08:02 < aName> Anyway. I'll stop evangelizing
08:02 < aName> I just get heated when I'm reminded I can't export coral from AU
08:10 < plop> morning
08:17 < enix> morning
08:19 < enix> which do you reckons better; small team, 2-4 people, responsible for a broad range of aspects but relatively consistent with work intensity, or large team, 10-15+ people, where the whole team is focussed on a single task (such as analytics)
08:19 < plop> better in what aspect?
08:19 < enix> better as in, what would you prefer
08:20 < plop> deppends.
08:20 < enix> on?
08:20 < plop> i'd prefer a small team and a broad range of aspects, because you do all kinds of work, so you learn and you're not "bored" doing the same thing over and over.
08:20 < MadCamel> oh my god. they made a home alone 3?
08:21 < plop> on the other hand, if you do a single thing over and over, you get really good to it. (or you should). also more social envirorment.
08:21 < enix> bit of a difficult call really
08:21 < plop> yeah
08:21 < enix> Lone wolf / small team, you can automate most of your job and work to keep everything as stable as possible, so you do as little as possible
08:22 < plop> yep
08:22  * nohusuro avoids masturbation jokes
08:22 < enix> Large team, you've probably got a little less to do, most of your stuff you could secretly automate, and you're kinda lost in the crowed so you can get away with doing waht you want anything
08:22 < enix> s/thing/way
08:22 < MadCamel> smaller team, always. For the simple fact that you need higher quality people in order to get away with having a smaller team. In a larger single-tasking environment there's a lot of idiots
08:22 < enix> Idk, just curious
08:23 < plop> MadCamel, and probably a manager and some kind of sub managers managing groups of 3-5 people.
08:23 < MadCamel> yeah, can get topheavy as well
08:23 < plop> yep
08:24 < plop> and you end up having more than 1 boss
08:24 < enix> no no we're talking personally
08:25 < enix> Trying to work out what i'll be doing in 20 years time though, when the job market has completely moved past me
08:25 < enix> time to start investing ay
08:26 < MadCamel> yup
08:26 < plop> i see
08:28 < MadCamel> you could try not letting the industry move past you
08:28 < MadCamel> takes some savings and dedication to retrain though. retraining while working is ehhhh..
08:29 < MadCamel> too bad nobody hires old folks
08:37 < MillerBOSS> Who is in Switzerland or near?
08:38 < MillerBOSS> https://whois.domaintools.com/184.105.148.103
08:38 < MillerBOSS> contact:Name:Stefan Widmer
08:38 < MillerBOSS> contact:Company:Plex GmbH              (fka Plex, Inc)
08:38 < MillerBOSS> contact:Postal-Code:6370
08:38 < MillerBOSS> contact:Country-Code:CH
08:38 < enix> ?
08:38 < MillerBOSS> Why would my Plex client be connecting to a server in Switzerland
08:39 < enix> seedbox?
08:39 < MillerBOSS> I am just not believing that is Plex as in Plex.tv
08:39 < voidstar> nsa is routing your traffic out of the USA so they can sniff and log
08:39 < MillerBOSS> I have a seedbox in NL but Hurricane Electric is not the provider
08:40 < MillerBOSS> https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-05-22-01-40-02-rO.png
08:41 <@Nostalg14c> https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/212476/disable-relay-connections
08:41 <@Nostalg14c> MillerBOSS:
08:41 < MillerBOSS> https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/18206 3/plex-payment-confusion
08:41 < MillerBOSS> https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/182063/plex-payment-confusion
08:41 < MillerBOSS> Plex INC has moved to Switzerland, your bank is flagging the payment for your protection. You need to talk to your bank and tell them it is ok to process a payment to Plex GmbH, that is the new (but still the same) company identifier.
08:41 < MillerBOSS> Thanks Nostalg14c
08:42 < MillerBOSS> I wonder why they "moved" there
08:42 <@Nostalg14c> probably law/tax
08:42 < MillerBOSS> Maybe
08:43 < MillerBOSS> Yup that IP is intuit post you shared there Nostalg14c
08:43 < MillerBOSS> Is in the
08:46 < plop> hey MillerBOSS
08:46 < MillerBOSS> Hola plop
08:55 < PrincessZoey> yo
08:57 < enix> wtf didnt you pass out PrincessZoey
08:57 < PrincessZoey> nope
08:57 < MillerBOSS> I just got a used Mac mini from ebay I will be using for MDM. Doing a hardware test with Apple's software, https://millerboss.com/x/IMG_2968-Uf.jpg I wish that look was an option for the current OS. Nice and simple like the olden days.
09:01 < PrincessZoey> omg. I just thought of something funny to make fun of my boss. brb
09:03 < PrincessZoey> she got a new laptop, had to inquire if she got a laptop that had a touchpad that could be disabled this time
09:24 < enix> oh wow
09:24 < enix> That takes me back.. thinking how awesome it was to change the color of the sliders
10:06 < plop> so, i'm waiting for this guy who told me their solution is not a cloud solution because it is their own servers.
10:06 < plop> in fact he's late
10:06 < MillerBOSS> I like how that guy thinks because there is no cloud.
10:06 < MillerBOSS> :D
10:07 < MillerBOSS> Just someone else's servers
10:07 < plop> hehe
10:07 < plop> i'll ask them to put their servers into my DC. see what he says
10:07 < MillerBOSS> lol
10:39 < ihre> "This apk has coffee making abilities."
10:39 < ihre> lol
11:27 < plop> MillerBOSS, guy said, no problem in putting their system in my vmware :D
11:39 < ihre> "NO, CAN ONLY RUN ON VIRTUALBOX"
11:41 < plop> ihre, lol.
11:44 < FenJai> Does anyone know how to deploy webex in a .msi, script, whatever with the credentials included ?
12:42 < Rulasmur> I'm facing a weird as hell issue. I have VMs hosted on a local cloud provider and my monitoring is showing me that the NTP is slowing drifting. Anyone have any idea what could cause NTP to drift?
12:47 < Hatsjoe> Rulasmur: is it still able to sync? Is ntpd running? What do the logs say?
12:47 < Hatsjoe> It can drift when ntpd is not doing its job
12:48 < Hatsjoe> Or cannot do its job due to some reason
12:56 <@JollyRgrs> Already? https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/21/17377994/google-microsoft-cpu-vulnerability-speculative-store-bypass-variant-4
12:57 < Rulasmur> @Hatsjoe, as far as I can see, it does sync, the problem is it does not sync often enough, so we sometimes need to manually sync it
13:33 < ihre> are you in either kosovo or serbia Rulasmur ? :p
13:33 < Rulasmur> @ihre, I am not no, why?
13:34 < ihre> https://www.reuters.com/article/serbia-kosovo-energy/serbia-kosovo-power-grid-row-delays-european-clocks-idUSL5N1QP2FF :P
13:34 < Hatsjoe> Because Kosovo and Serbia were fucking with the power distribution in Europe causing it to run in the wrong frequency
13:34 < Hatsjoe> Causing all clocks which rely on that frequency to be out of sync
13:34 < sideup66> Morning folks
14:09 <@cryptic1> morning
14:09 < plop> cryptic1, back to bed
14:09 < vinrock> MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE
14:09 < vinrock> sup dudes
14:09 < arlion> vinrock: yes vinrock?
14:10 < vinrock> morning
14:10 < vinrock> just sayin hi
14:10 < arlion> Thanks vinrock, hello to you too,.
14:11 < vinrock> :D
14:12 <@cryptic1> plop, I would love to
14:14 < plop> hehe
14:15 < asimon> Good morning friendo
14:15 < plop> so, in 3h or so we doing a tequila training master class :D that is why you keep bartender close to you haha
14:16 < asimon> its not even 9am
14:17 < plop> 14:15 here
14:17 < asimon> pretty sure everyone lives in the same time zone as me so you must be wrong
14:18 < asimon> Wait what even happens at a tequila master class
14:18 < plop> do you remember the @beat thingie swatch made years ago to have a unified time zone?
14:19 < plop> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatch_Internet_Time
14:19 < plop> that is a flashback
14:19 < asimon> Why is the unit a .beat
14:19 < asimon> with a period in front lol
14:20 < plop> because 1999 mate.
14:20 < asimon> that's true
14:24 < Astr0_Belt> Good morning all.
14:24 < asimon> Morning
14:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> mornin fellas
14:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> I've got my interview today, pretty freaking nervous
14:35 < plop> McDonaldsWiFi, i got some pills for that :D
14:35 < Astr0_Belt> Good luck. What position are you applying for?
14:38 < arlion> drugs!
14:38 < plop> yeah, one of the medications i take for migrains it is used to take that edge off
14:38 < arlion> Is there a way in mac, when I minimize a screen it goes to the launcher icon and not off to the right hand side part of the dock?
14:41 < arlion> anyone else getting internal server errors from GOOGLE!?!?!?
14:42 < arlion> this is the very first time for me
14:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> its DNS
14:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> plop: my adderall will kick in in about 30 mins... then i think ill be fine ;D
14:43 < arlion> my addy kicks in almost immediately with it peaking in about 30-1hr
14:43 < Astr0_Belt> arlion: Using them for DNS?
14:43 < arlion> nope
14:43 < asimon> https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/google.com
14:43 < asimon> Looks good for me
14:43 < arlion> its back up
14:43 < plop> McDonaldsWiFi, hehe nice
14:44 < arlion> https://imgur.com/a/wmtfaxh
14:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> arlion: i was jk
14:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> arlion: you know.. cause the "its always DNS" circle jerk ;P
14:44 < arlion> for sure.
14:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> I'm pretty sure its ravioli's flair on reddit
14:46 < kepler> arlion: you going through a proxy? if proxy was having issues, could have messed up google and shown an internal error
14:47 < arlion> I'm not the keeper of the interwebs here, particularly internet security is very tight.
14:48 < cantibot> morning
14:48 < cantibot> hi james lol
14:48 < arlion> hippa, irs, pci all that
14:52 < md5sumo> good morning all
14:54 < arlion> mornign
14:54 <@Code_Man65> Morning
14:57 < asimon> Mragin
15:00 < SpookyCrisp> Good morning.
15:00 < arlion> it blows my mind why someone hasn't built a window management tweaker for mac
15:00 < SpookyCrisp> arlion, I wish there was a full RSAT for Mac.
15:00 < SpookyCrisp> I'd use this spare MBP we have
15:07 < cantibot> anyone that doesn't use super putty on windows is retarded
15:07 < cantibot> or iterm2 on mac
15:07 <@Code_Man65> I use mobaxterm
15:07 < cantibot> what is that?!
15:07 <@Code_Man65> https://mobaxterm.mobatek.net/
15:07 < cantibot> oh shit it has x11 built in?
15:07 < cantibot> that is nice
15:08 < cantibot> hmm, Code_Man65 you might of just turned me onto something :)
15:08 <@Code_Man65> And uses the real ssh agent instead of the putty agent
15:08 < cantibot> sickkk
15:08 <@Code_Man65> So you can use normal ssh keys instead of the putty specific ones
15:08 < cantibot> is it free?
15:08 <@Code_Man65> The free version is legal for commerical use
15:08 <@Code_Man65> The pro version is $69/year
15:09 < cantibot> any bennies in the pro version?
15:09 < cantibot> oh, max 12 sessions
15:09 <@Code_Man65> Unlimited saved sessions, program customization (including branding)
15:09 <@Code_Man65> There are others, but those are the big two I can name
15:10 <@Code_Man65> That's 12 saved sessions
15:10 < cantibot> ohh
15:10 < cantibot> still that is not bad
15:10 < cantibot> I think I only have about 8
15:11 <@Code_Man65> I've long since (like 2014) abandoned putty
15:11 < cantibot> putty is bad
15:11 < alazare619> so this rdp thing is annoying
15:11 < cantibot> superputty makes it usable
15:12 < alazare619> even after patching my desktop i cant rdp to those servers anymore (they have been patched as well)
15:12 < arlion> mobaxterm helps a lot
15:12 < corn266> what's so bad about putty
15:12 < alazare619> wtf do i have to do?
15:12 < cantibot> check DNS?
15:12 < cantibot> I have problems sometimes resovling hostnames on rdp sessions
15:12 < alazare619> no its the credssp thing
15:12 < abakedapplepie> alazare619: set the registry to ignore it
15:13 < abakedapplepie> thats what i did
15:13 < alazare619> on my desktop or on the hosts?
15:13 < abakedapplepie> your desktop
15:13 < hlavender> which client?
15:13 < arlion> corn266: a specific key type for keys that doesn't follow openssh/openbsd formating, no tabs, right click is paste
15:13 <@Code_Man65> corn266:  It's cumbersome because of the having to open multiple instances to have multiple ssh sessions, it doesn't use standard ssh key formats, doesn't do x11 forwarding without jumping through some hoops...
15:13 < hlavender> the new one from the windows store has dns issues for me sometimes
15:13 < abakedapplepie> REG  ADD HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System\CredSSP\Parameters\ /v AllowEncryptionOracle /t REG_DWORD /d 2
15:13 < hlavender> or just update your servers
15:14 < corn266> arlion Code_Man65 oh okay I guess I've never needed to use those features
15:14 < abakedapplepie> also the first time i looked up that issue i had a hearty chuckle
15:14 < abakedapplepie> in my head "why the fuck does oracle have to break my rdp??"
15:14 <@Code_Man65> ssh key-based auth > password based auth
15:15 < corn266> Code_Man65 you can use rsa keys to authenticate with putty but it's a hastle
15:15 < abakedapplepie> a hassle is putting it lightly
15:15 < abakedapplepie> wtf indeed @ that
15:15 <@Code_Man65> Indeed
15:15 < arlion> rsa keys need to be converted to putty key format
15:15 <@Code_Man65> Yep
15:15 <@Code_Man65> And fuck that noise
15:15 < abakedapplepie> yeah and its asinine
15:15 < abakedapplepie> its 2018
15:16 < abakedapplepie> i think they can figure out how to play along with the rest of the kids
15:16 <@Code_Man65> Plus from a security standpoint we are supported to migrating to elliptic curve ssh keys
15:16 < arlion> how many times I have troubleshooted someone accidentally created a new key, or didn't import the ssh key to format it to putty. And then triple check that the key/pub unlocks the same key/pub when converted into putty format
15:16 < arlion> pain in the dick.
15:16 < abakedapplepie> puttygen.exe would be such a good backdoor option
15:16 < Bru-> puttin in my notice today
15:17 < arlion> s/puttin/putty
15:18 < arlion> bot broken? coloured my surprised.
15:18 < arlion> *me
15:18 < alazare619> hlavender: i've updated everything but it thinks its not
15:18 < alazare619> abakedapplepie:  just did the key going to test here in a sec
15:18 < cantibot> Filesystem                       1K-blocks    Used Available Use% Mounted on
15:18 < abakedapplepie> alazare619: for me it was instant, no reboot required
15:18 < abakedapplepie> all rdp worked after that
15:18 < alazare619> niceee
15:18 < alazare619> it works again
15:18 < hlavender> weird
15:18 < abakedapplepie> now just
15:18 < Bru-> is it typical for desktop motherboards not to have the ability to hand off PCIe control to the OS?
15:18 < abakedapplepie> remember to do things the right way
15:19 < abakedapplepie> thats a bandaid lol
15:19 < alazare619> i'll have to dig into why the patches arent registering
15:19 < abakedapplepie> Bru-: i dont think so
15:19 < Bru-> was trying to to discrete device assignment on my home server boxc
15:19 < alazare619> but that makes my work flow far quicker again in the mean time
15:19 < Bru-> on win2016
15:19 < Bru-> couldnt seem to find setting in bios
15:19 < alazare619> dont realize how much i copy pasta over rdp till i have to use the vmware console
15:19 < Bru-> figured id have to do custom if i wanted to
15:19 < abakedapplepie> oh yeah haha
15:20 < Bru-> either that or find a free USB over IP solution
15:20 < abakedapplepie> cp is great over rdp
15:20 < abakedapplepie> as long as youre not doing 100+mb
15:20 < alazare619> ^
15:20 < abakedapplepie> i have transferred 5gb ISOs over rdp though
15:20 < abakedapplepie> in a pinch
15:20 < abakedapplepie> theres no file resume on an error, btw
15:20 < abakedapplepie> lol
15:20 < abakedapplepie> D:
15:22 < alazare619> most of the big stuff i just do \\server\c$
15:23 < alazare619> but text and small files i dont bother
15:24 <@JollyRgrs> ok, hour later and i'm caught up with email finally
15:24 <@JollyRgrs> not too bad
15:26 < abakedapplepie> alazare619: one of my client sites has all path-based file browsing disabled via gpo
15:26 < vavkamil> can you guys recommend any software for browsing linux logs?
15:26 < abakedapplepie> which means no admin shares
15:26 < abakedapplepie> ts so annoying
15:26 < abakedapplepie> cmd and run are disabled too
15:29 < goofie> vavkamil are you wanting something with a gui? less and grep usually get me what i need in linux
15:29 < nickster> I was tasked with migrating and updating the windows deployment server.
15:29 < nickster> thankfully it now finally works
15:29 < abakedapplepie> hole mackerel
15:30 < abakedapplepie> #powershell added a discord bridge AND a slack bridge
15:30 < abakedapplepie> what a nightmare
15:30 < ihre> haha yeah, #librenms does the same ><
15:30 < ihre> annoying af
15:30 < abakedapplepie> that room just became an unreadable wall of text
15:30 < abakedapplepie> shame
15:30 < hlavender> wow
15:30 < hlavender> discord is the most horrible IM platform
15:31 < hlavender> only freaks seem to use it
15:31 < abakedapplepie> i wouldnt go that far
15:31 < hlavender> people with anime avatars
15:31 < abakedapplepie> it is actually a very handy platform
15:31 < hlavender> its a good platform
15:31 < abakedapplepie> its just primarily used by children
15:31 < hlavender> userbase is dreadful
15:31 < abakedapplepie> i really like discord, far better than slack
15:31 < goofie> its handy but my god does the client like to eat resources
15:31 < hlavender> teamspeak or die
15:31 < abakedapplepie> teamspeak is old and dead
15:32 < ebol4> give the client doritos instead
15:32 < hlavender> noooooo
15:32 < abakedapplepie> discord is better than teamspeak in every way
15:32 < abakedapplepie> sorry
15:32 < abakedapplepie> but its true
15:32 < ebol4> mumble forever
15:32 < hlavender> ebol4:  no way fam
15:32 < goofie> bitlbee+discord if you want normal things like logs
15:32 < ebol4> gubment can't listen to your conversations in mumble
15:32 < hlavender> ts3 is just so great
15:32 < hlavender> you know what you're getting
15:32 < ebol4> teamspeak is bloated and enormous
15:32 < hlavender> what?????
15:33 < abakedapplepie> i always hated teamspeak for their 90s gui too
15:33 < hlavender> its very lightweight
15:33 < ebol4> it looks like a winamp skin
15:33 < ebol4> from 2001
15:33 < arlion> it's for nostalgia factor at this point.
15:33 < hlavender> but why do you need some JS electron wankydoodle sick gaymer thing to just do voip
15:33 < abakedapplepie> you dont need it
15:33 < abakedapplepie> but if it works better...
15:33 < abakedapplepie> which it does...
15:34 < ebol4> also mumble is FOSS
15:34 < hlavender> ventrilo
15:34 < hlavender> copy comment
15:34 < hlavender> page from nigel, page from nigel
15:34 < hlavender> page from nigel
15:34 < ebol4> are you ok
15:35 < hlavender> flashbacks
15:35 < hlavender> I have ventrilo PTSD
15:35 < cantibot> god why did I do LVM...
15:35 < cantibot> my /boot is full
15:35 < hlavender> cantibot: why wouldnt you do lvm
15:35 < ebol4> lvm cool as hell
15:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> cantibot: said everyone ever
15:35 < hlavender> said no one ever
15:35 < hlavender> what reason would you have to not do lvm
15:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> cept when you wanna shrink the paritition
15:35 < hlavender> cantibot: delete some of the 900 old kernels in there
15:36 < ebol4> resize2fs and lvreduce?
15:36 < cantibot> well okay
15:37 < giant_it_burrit> stupid iis devices
15:37 < giant_it_burrit> ios
15:37 < giant_it_burrit> why wont you just copy this email in
15:37 < cantibot> it says /dev/mapper/blahblah-vg-root is only 7 gigs used out of 100
15:37 < cantibot> but my /boot is full
15:37 < cantibot> do I need to resize /boot?
15:37 < ebol4>  /boot is separate
15:37 < hlavender> yes because its full of kernels
15:37 < cantibot> so just clean it up?
15:37 < ebol4> i don't think you can put /boot in lvm
15:37 < hlavender> yer, delete your old kernels
15:37 < hlavender> leave the one you're currently on, and one before
15:38 < m3point14> cantibot: debian-ish or RH/centos ?
15:38 < hlavender> for safe keeping
15:38 < asimon> s/delete/pop
15:38 < hlavender> sounds like ubuntu
15:38 < cantibot> ubuntu server :/
15:38 < hlavender> thought so
15:38 < hlavender> it loves doing that
15:38 < m3point14> ubuntu had the annoying thing of leaving old kernels in place
15:38 < vavkamil> goofie, something for nginx and syslog
15:38 < hlavender> no idea why apt keeps so many old kernels
15:38 < m3point14> it's fixed now  ... apt-get autoremove
15:38 < hlavender> ^
15:38 < hlavender> but seems kinda pointless to have to run that
15:38 < hlavender> should clean old kernels automatically
15:38 < cantibot> FUCKING 2 GIGS OF KERNELS!
15:38 < hlavender> as part of upgrade
15:38 < cantibot> WTF??!
15:38 < hlavender> looool
15:39 < hlavender> welcome to ubuntu
15:39 < ebol4> it should not remove old kernels, you might need them
15:39 < vavkamil> new ubuntu is weird
15:39 < m3point14> that's the workaround for older versions ... as of 17.XX it's automatic
15:39 < hlavender> ebol4: realistically not really
15:39 < m3point14> and only keeps 3 most recent
15:39 < cantibot> dat LTS tho..
15:39 < hlavender> a couple is fine
15:39 < arlion> sudo apt auto-remove
15:39 < hlavender> dont need like 100+ kernel patches
15:39 < hlavender> just silly
15:39 < cantibot> oh and this takes a while too lol
15:39 < m3point14> there's new LTS 18.XX right ?
15:39 < Astr0_Belt> LOL @ this meeting I am in.
15:40 < arlion> ubuntu doesn't have the ability to tweak how many kernels you keep, but it does remove old ones using apt auto-remove.
15:40 < arlion> m3point14: 18.04, came out lat month.
15:40 < hlavender> yeah, they should think about that
15:40 < m3point14> right ... so time to do-release-upgrade
15:40 < Astr0_Belt> We are fighting about time scheduling for WSUS updates. No one wants them rebooted but they want the servers patched.
15:40 < arlion> mmmm
15:40 < hlavender> for newbs its a bit scary if you suddenly cant update because /boot is full
15:40 < Astr0_Belt> Smh.
15:40 < arlion> hold off
15:40 < arlion> I nuked my latop this weekend upgrading
15:40 < hlavender> i wouldnt go for 18.04 lts yet
15:40 < m3point14> uh oh
15:41 < m3point14> special config .. or just screwed apt ?
15:41 < arlion> yeah, I've been running ubuntu on my laptop since 14. ish?
15:41 <@JollyRgrs> Astr0_Belt: tell them to just bend over and take it
15:41 < hlavender> dist-upgrade is 50% likely to break everything in my experience
15:41 < arlion> finally got sick of recoving my laptop every update so I just bought a make.
15:41 < m3point14> same here , but long before that
15:41 < arlion> *mac
15:41 < hlavender> esp if you have a lot of stuff blacklisted, and custom stuff
15:41 < Astr0_Belt> I wish, Senior net admin is a nut case.
15:41 < arlion> yeah, I don't have time to fix  my laptop any more.
15:41 < m3point14> but I'm staying with ubuntu ... too much config that's not replicable on Mac
15:41 <@JollyRgrs> arlion: recovering your laptop every update? so you bought a mac b/c you can't computer?
15:41 < hlavender> ^ i bought a mac
15:41 < hlavender> too much time maintaining my own machine
15:42 < m3point14> I had problem once - and it was only because of my 3 display config
15:42 < m3point14> otherwise it runs quite OK
15:42 < arlion> JollyRgrs: I am an excellent linux admin, but even I need a reliable workstation to get work done.
15:42 < hlavender> arlion: completely agree
15:42 < arlion> I don't have the time nor want to put in the effort to recover my ubuntu laptop every time something doesn't work right.
15:43 < vavkamil> I'm on ubuntu 18.04 and I hate it so far
15:43 < arlion> 18.04 is great in my opinion.
15:43 < arlion> what don't you like about it?
15:43  * m3point14 is off reading changelog for 18.04
15:43 < vavkamil> I don't like gnome and snap
15:43 < m3point14> Ah ... not using that at all .. i3 ftw
15:43 < hlavender> last ubuntu DE i used was their own one
15:43 < arlion> fair enough.
15:43 <@Code_Man65> If I were running linux for my daily driver it would be fedora
15:44 < scwizard> oh look at that
15:44 < scwizard> it's 8:44 AM and I'm already at my desk
15:44 < scwizard> it
15:44 < hlavender> Code_Man65: m'lady
15:44 < scwizard> it's amazing how fast the buses are when you're not dealing with psycho bus lady
15:44 < arlion> vavkamil: depending on what you like, you can try kde, go back to unity or try my personal favorite, cinnamon.
15:44 <@Code_Man65> I cannot stand the *buntus and don't like Canonical, they are bad members of the community.
15:44 < scwizard> now watch AWS support not call this morning
15:44 < hlavender> have you used landscape?
15:44 < hlavender> not too fond of canconical
15:44 < hlavender> but thats very nice
15:44 < arlion> I run fedora on my Work computer, it's fantastic.
15:45 < scwizard> i kinda wanna give desktop linux a try again
15:45 < scwizard> especially now that there's stuff like: http://snapcraft.io/
15:45 < m3point14> There's still debian if you don't line ubuntu
15:45 < arlion> I thought 18.04 is the most polished version yet
15:46 < scwizard> I'd probably go with fedora too if i did desktop linux
15:46 < ebol4> xubuntu is the way to go
15:46 < scwizard> debian too stable, ubuntu not a fan of
15:46 < ebol4> xfce has a little mouse mascot thing
15:46 < vavkamil> arlion, I used some tweaking software and everything is kinda slow now
15:47 < vavkamil> for example switched close, minimize buttons from right to left
15:47 < arlion> What was the tweaking software and what did you tweak?
15:47 < arlion> gnone tweak tools
15:47 < arlion> gnome
15:47 < scwizard> the thing is, redhat will always be a more real company than canonical
15:48 < m3point14> 18.04 has those on right (reading changelong)
15:48 < scwizard> sometimes you just gotta throw money at a problem, and canonical doesn't have much of that
15:49 < m3point14> I have enough RH and CentOS at work :) it's not always the best
15:49 < scwizard> personally i def prefer debian for servers but
15:49 < scwizard> for desktop i'd probably go with fedora if i did that
15:50 < vavkamil> arlion, yeah that is it, I modified a few things and it feels slower now
15:50 < arlion> I would reboot the computer just to make sure nothing funny is happenign.
15:51 < arlion> I would check out the logs in journalctl -f to see if you see any errors. Then slowly undo and reapply your changes to see if any errors appear.
15:52 < felda> got me a special drink this morning >:^)
15:52 < felda> getting wild as fuck
15:53 < vavkamil> DisplayCompositor-0x12d87db03700]RENDER WARNING: texture bound to texture unit 0 is not renderable. It maybe non-power-of-2 and have incompatible texture filtering
15:53 < felda> sippin dat Welch's 100% Concord Grape Juice
15:54 < asimon> scwizard: Yo on snapcraft.io one of their listed programs is Shattered Pixel Dungeon
15:54 < asimon> haven't thought about that in a year or two
15:54 < asimon> I wasted so much time on that shit
15:54 < scwizard> i played pixel dungeon on my phone
15:54 < scwizard> got boring quick
15:54 < m3point14> vavkamil: kill the compositor (compiz probably)
15:54 < asimon> It gets much better once you can make it past the first boss
15:54 < scwizard> currently kinda addicted to realm grinder, which is a different sort of game
15:55 < scwizard> i made it past the first boss and
15:55 < scwizard> idk wasn't very exciting
15:55 < Anaphylaxis> Phone games are arse. Anyone got _any_ good ones?
15:55 < scwizard> Anaphylaxis: as I said, currently kinda addicted to realm grinder
15:55 < m3point14> Anaphylaxis: rocket league
15:55 < Anaphylaxis> Infinity Blade was kinda OK, got boring.. especially when I upgraded phone and lost everything
15:55 < Sousapro> Anaphylaxis: XCOM Enemy Unknown
15:55 < scwizard> i play it on my phone and PC tho, since the saves sync between them
15:55 < int0x1C8> plague inc
15:55 < Anaphylaxis> xcom is on phone? Sousapro
15:55 < asimon> Star Wars Galaxy of heroes
15:55 < Sousapro> s/Enemy Unknown/Enemy Within
15:56 < Sousapro> Anaphylaxis: yeah
15:56 < Anaphylaxis> scwizard, i prefer realm grindr
15:56 < m3point14> enemy unknown - 2 decades old but still goof
15:56 < m3point14> *good
15:56 < scwizard> Anaphylaxis: gayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
15:56 < vavkamil> it might also be that new ubuntu is slower for me because of spectre/meltdown patch bug
15:56 < Anaphylaxis> @Sousapro, $10 LOL
15:56 < Dish> I second Xcom. Always love that game.
15:56 <@Code_Man65> Anaphylaxis:  Lords of Waterdeep (assuming you like the board game)
15:56 < Sousapro> Anaphylaxis: it's the real game
15:56 < Sousapro> Anaphylaxis: like the whole thing
15:56 < Dish> Terraria is a good one for mobile
15:56 < Anaphylaxis> Sousapro, i don't even have it on PC though yet
15:57 < Sousapro> Anaphylaxis: it's the same experience on mobile, they did a killer job porting it
15:57 < Sousapro> Anaphylaxis: graphics are slightly worse but surprisingly not bad
15:58 < Sousapro> that's my time waster anyway
15:58 < Sousapro> so is Out There
15:58 < Anaphylaxis> so should I buy on PC or phone? :hmm:
15:59 < Sousapro> Anaphylaxis: I'd buy it on PC probably. depends on where you are gonna play it
15:59 < Anaphylaxis> work, lol
15:59 < Sousapro> lmao
15:59 < Sousapro> I wish I had time like that
15:59 < Anaphylaxis> tier 2, so
15:59 < Sousapro> anyone here had any luck with folder redirection?
16:00 < Anaphylaxis> I do enough that I can slack, yet still do more work than the T1s :P
16:00 < Sousapro> I want to redirect the 3d objects folder but don't see any options for that particular folder
16:01 < Anaphylaxis> I see that option? Sousapro
16:01 < Anaphylaxis> right click it -> Properties -> Location?
16:02 < rhqq> morning my dudes
16:02 < Anaphylaxis> morning my guy
16:02 <@cryptic1> rhqq, back to work
16:02 <@cryptic1> Anaphylaxis, back to work
16:02 <@cryptic1> Sousapro, back to work
16:03 < DomLS3> why the hell did orderchaos get +v and not me
16:03 <@cryptic1> Code_Man65, back to work
16:03 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, back to work
16:03 < DomLS3> who tf is orderchaod
16:03 < DomLS3> who tf is orderchaos
16:03 <@Code_Man65> No U cryptic1
16:03 < DomLS3> This is an injustice
16:03 < GreyKite> DomLS3: the linuxacademy guy
16:03 < Sousapro> Anaphylaxis: yeah, but I want to do it via GPO
16:03 < DomLS3> GreyKite: linux gay tho
16:03 < DomLS3> that should be +b not +v
16:03 < scwizard> are these AWS guys not gonna call
16:03 < scwizard> without even telling me they're not gonna call
16:03 < Sousapro> chmod -x DomLS3
16:03 <@cryptic1> Dish, back to work
16:03 <@cryptic1> vavkamil, back to work
16:03 <@cryptic1> scwizard, back to work
16:03 <@cryptic1> asimon, back to work
16:04 < rhqq> cryptic1: back to work ;p
16:04 <@cryptic1> D:
16:04 < scwizard> i'm waiting for an aws call that is my work rn
16:04 < scwizard> i'm not gonna sit down and try and focus on shit when they could call any minute
16:04 < rhqq> for me it's workouts time
16:05 < Rulasmur> rhqq, is that another way of saying its home time?
16:05 < rhqq> no
16:05 < rhqq> i work from home
16:05 < asimon> Damnit cryptic1 I don't wanna work
16:05 < rhqq> and i just started my shift
16:05 < rhqq> so time to lollygag
16:08 < brendan-> cryptic1: how was your time in the penitentiary? get all the butt sex you've been craving?
16:09 < brendan-> scwizard: why does aws call you? you need to call aws
16:09 <@cryptic1> O_o bmurt is back
16:09 <@cryptic1> no you call aws brendan-
16:09 < brendan-> hopefully you're not being serious
16:10 < Jekotia> What would be the ideal way to search ~40gb of plain text files for specific strings? Linux or Windows works. Trying to work with that breach compilation that was posted in here on the weekend
16:11 <@cryptic1> brendan-, hahaha
16:12 < rhqq> Jekotia: grep ?
16:12 < brendan-> probably some time of indexing Jekotia
16:12 < brendan-> or grep
16:12 < rhqq> what breach compilation
16:12 < Jekotia> rhqq: https://github.com/martinteixeira/BreachCompilation
16:13 < brendan-> scwizard: whatcha talking with aws about?
16:13 <@JollyRgrs> Anaphylaxis: you should play rocket league
16:13 <@JollyRgrs> it's the bees knees
16:13 < brendan-> btw, if anyone cares... mssql rds HA is now available in govcloud
16:13 < Jekotia> The readme includes the magnet link for a 40GB torrent
16:13 < rhqq> hi JollyRgrs
16:13 < Anaphylaxis> JollyRgrs, on phone?
16:13 < Anaphylaxis> i thought you were joking w/ that one
16:13 <@JollyRgrs> oh, phone?
16:13 <@JollyRgrs> hi rhqq
16:13 < rhqq> brendan-: even on aurora?
16:13 <@JollyRgrs> you want like... action game or puzzle game?
16:13 <@JollyRgrs> ios or android?
16:13 < Jekotia> And I can confirm it's legit, my shit is in there & accurate :/
16:13 < brendan-> only mssql was mentioned in the announcement rhqq
16:14 < rhqq> ah i see
16:14 < rhqq> well, who uses mssql
16:14 < rhqq> :P
16:14 < brendan-> the gov't
16:14 < brendan-> along with a ton of oracle
16:14 < brendan-> it's fucking bullshit
16:14 < rhqq> oracle sounds more reasonable
16:14 <@JollyRgrs> Anaphylaxis: technically... w/ steam stream, you COOOOOUUUUULD... lol
16:14 < rhqq> JollyRgrs: steam streaming on phones works sexy
16:15 < rhqq> i played rocket league on the shitter
16:15 <@JollyRgrs> rhqq: you've tried it out already?
16:15 < Anaphylaxis> w8 steam stream on phone?
16:15 < rhqq> 8/10 would recommend
16:15 < Anaphylaxis> hoed the fuk up
16:15 < Anaphylaxis> i can play csgo on the shitter?
16:15 < Jekotia> ^
16:15 < Jekotia> details pls
16:15 <@JollyRgrs> rhqq: you used screen controlls or used controller?
16:15 < Jekotia> how big was the shit?
16:15 < rhqq> i have steam controller
16:15 < Jekotia> did rocket league improve the quality of the shit?
16:15 < Anaphylaxis> 9 and a half curics @Jekotia
16:16 < Jekotia> did rocket league improve the quality of the experience of the shit?
16:16 <@JollyRgrs> Jekotia: he used the treasure boost, so he kept going "YARRRRR" while he pooped
16:16 < rhqq> Jekotia: type 4 in bristol stool scale
16:17 < rhqq> anyway, i had random glitches, but switching to 5ghz wifi solved the issue
16:17 < rhqq> also it drains battery on the phone quickly, but no wonder
16:17 < rhqq> wifi+screen+decoding
16:18 <@JollyRgrs> my phone has a higher resolution than my monitors... i wonder if steam would stream it at 2k/4k res
16:18 < rhqq> no
16:18 < rhqq> its capped to 1080p
16:18 < rhqq> it scales down
16:18 <@JollyRgrs> my pc can't handle any higher anyways
16:18 < rhqq> i have 21:9 3440x1440 screen
16:18 < rhqq> and phone is 720p
16:19 < scwizard> ok just got off the phone with AWS support
16:19 < scwizard> this is interesting
16:19 < scwizard> so their support staff is segmented into teams
16:19 < rhqq> steam streaming is always capped at 1080p, but you can tune it down
16:19 <@JollyRgrs>  scwizard NO WAY!
16:19 < rhqq> impossibru!
16:19 < scwizard> and the autoscaling team for instance can only see autoscaling stuff, they can't see ec2 stuff
16:19 < asimon> I prefer to stream in 256x192
16:19  * brendan- Jekotia: https://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/7kqpx9/recent_14_billion_password_breach_compilation_as/
16:19 < asimon> good performance
16:19 < rhqq> we found the 8bit guy here
16:19 < scwizard> and this is interesting, the autoscaling teams internal tool actually has no concept of launch templates
16:19 < genr8_> 360p is where its at
16:20 < rhqq> actually i was going to try like 540p or 360p
16:20 < scwizard> despite the fact that the documentation recommends using launch templates with autoscaling groups
16:20 <@JollyRgrs> 600x400 CGA
16:20 < rhqq> since phone screen is small anyway
16:20 < scwizard> their internal support tool for the autoscaling team only knows about launch configurations
16:20 < rhqq> but i need to 3d print controller-phone attachment
16:20 < scwizard> what that tells me, is that currently launch templates aren't fully integrated into autoscaling groups
16:21 < scwizard> and that the documentation is being overly optimistic and trying to push sorta beta functionality
16:21 < scwizard> and that for now you should stick with using launch configurations (rather than launch templates) with autoscaling groups
16:21 < brendan-> interesting .. launch templates
16:22 < scwizard> like I didn't completely trust the support guy when he said they weren't integrated yet but, what he said about his internal support tool i think confirms it
16:22 < brendan-> scwizard: the scary piece is this: Introducing Launch Templates for Amazon EC2 instances Posted On: Nov 29, 2017
16:23 < brendan-> granted, i tend to use 3rd party tools vs CFT, etc. for managing infra
16:23 < scwizard> brendan-: yeah that is pretty recent, but i read a doc that recommenced them so I thought they might be production grade, especially since it wasn't launched as a preview or anything
16:23 < scwizard> but nope, it's still beta
16:25 < brendan-> launch templates seem like a decent idea
16:26 < brendan-> main parameterizes the IaC
16:26 < brendan-> mainly*
16:26 < brendan-> the versioning is nice
16:26 < Jekotia> brendan-: Any idea who mentioned us with that link? The username is shown as * for me...
16:26 < brendan-> nah brosef. came across a gist in github
16:26 < brendan-> one sec
16:27 < alazare619> debating giving nynab a go again
16:27 < brendan-> Jekotia: https://gist.github.com/scottlinux/9a3b11257ac575e4f71de811322ce6b3
16:27 < alazare619> but i see alot of people mad that they havent implemented anything in 2 years now
16:27 < Jekotia> brendan-: Thanks, but I got the link. Just not sure who linked it, since the username in here is shown as a *
16:28 < Jekotia> IDK who to thank :c
16:28 < brendan-> you should thank me
16:28 < brendan-> always me
16:28 < brendan-> cryptic1: you could learn something from this Jekotia guy
16:29 < brendan-> he's much much nicer than your angry self
16:29 <@cryptic1> of course
16:30 < Jekotia> brendan-: I'm just too tired to be my usual cantankerous self. Assholes setting off fireworks at 1AM
16:31 < brendan-> people are mean
16:32 < felda> you don't know the meaning of the word mean
16:32 < felda> cryptic1 is the true definition of mean
16:32 < Jekotia> Anyone that lights a firework after 10PM should be forced to spend a week in a psych ward
16:32 < Jekotia> It's like saying "I'M GOING TO BE A CUNT TO EVERYONE WITHIN A 1KM RADIUS"
16:32 <@cryptic1> Jekotia, victoria day?
16:33 < Jekotia> cryptic1: Yep
16:33 <@cryptic1> heh sorry about that
16:33 < genr8_> anyone that thinks everyone else is on the same schedule of "go to bed by 11" can get fucked
16:33 < ebol4> i'm going to shoot bottle rockets at your house
16:33 <@cryptic1> ;)
16:33 <@JollyRgrs> b/c canada is still a momma's boy
16:33 < felda> oi m8 we use FREEDOM UNITS here
16:33 <@cryptic1> next year I will wait till 2am
16:33 <@cryptic1> better?
16:33  * cryptic1 smirks
16:33 <@cryptic1> felda, sorry for you lack of freedom days
16:34 < felda> I actually get Memorial Day off next Monday
16:34 < felda> FOR FREEDOM
16:34 <@cryptic1> LOL
16:34 < ebol4> oh shit that's right 3 day weekend
16:34 < ebol4> thank god those people died
16:34 < felda> cryptic1 do you need some freedom I actually have some extra if you need it?
16:34 <@cryptic1> why is your freedom so late
16:34 < scwizard> found it, here it says:
16:34 < scwizard> https://docs.aws.amazon.com/autoscaling/ec2/userguide/create-asg-launch-template.html
16:34 < felda> we make sure everyone else has their freedom first before we get ours
16:34 < scwizard> "To configure Auto Scaling instances, you must specify a launch template, a launch configuration, or an EC2 instance. We recommend that you use a launch template to ensure that you can use the latest features of Amazon EC2."
16:35 < scwizard> so they recommend using a launch template even though the feature isn't integrated yet, smh
16:35 < Hunterkll> jesus christ
16:35 < Hunterkll> cryptic1, has anyone not logged on irc in the past 5 days
16:35 < felda> In case you guys weren't aware cryptic1 is head moderator of https://www.reddit.com/r/GamersRiseUp
16:36 < Hunterkll> which one of you fucks got busted
16:36 < felda> such a great hive of villainy and scum can only be run by cryptic1
16:36 <@cryptic1> uhh no I am not
16:36 < Hunterkll> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5740777/Married-man-39-busted-58-Terabytes-child-pornography.html
16:36 < scwizard> 1 2 3 NOT IT
16:36 < grumplestiltzkin> not it
16:37 < grumplestiltzkin> that guy is going to die in prison
16:37 < grumplestiltzkin> or wish he was
16:37 < Jekotia> grumplestiltzkin: If he's lucky.
16:37 < felda> I present to the court my evidence
16:37 < felda> https://i.imgur.com/wxBZF1X.png
16:38 < felda> 100% PROOF
16:38 < Jekotia> felda: MS Paint could fake that.
16:38 < felda> nuh uh
16:39 < Hunterkll> 58 terabytes
16:39 < Jekotia> brendan-: Oh god, that breach compilation. WHat kind of monster makes a 10gb text file?!
16:40 < Hunterkll> Jekotia, what kind of person has a 58 terabyte CP collection?
16:40 < Hunterkll> apparently, texans.
16:42 < Lt_Lemming> https://photos.app.goo.gl/6aSfMOO2kUgna5UG3 <--- good one I saw near work today.
16:44 < corn266> I present alternative evidence felda https://imgur.com/Te3Ohnn
16:45 < Jekotia> Lt_Lemming: Brilliant
16:45 < felda> corn266 wow I can't believe you MANIPULATED that image
16:45 < felda> completely ridiculous and untrustworthy
16:45 < Lt_Lemming> yeah, I'm quite familiar with the RFC for that one Jekotia, so I laughed my ass off when I saw it
16:46 < Jekotia> I had to google it to refresh myself what 418 was, but I recall reading about it
16:46 < corn266> you're just afraid of the TRUTH
16:48 < grumplestiltzkin> felda: what in the wide world of fuckmatoes is that gamersriseup thing?
16:48 < Sousapro> ++
16:48 < Sousapro> Hunterkll: how's it going?
16:48 < felda> grumplestiltzkin you're probably a Veronica and wouldn't understand that we live in a society.
16:50 < AnimalFarmPig> I didn't get what they were saying with the "we live in a society" thing until I was watching Seinfeld re-runs and George says it in an episode
16:50 < AnimalFarmPig> who is Veronica? The name just makes me think of that one song that's like "pick up the phone, Veronica!!!!"
16:51 < grumplestiltzkin> veronica makes me think archie comics
16:51 < grumplestiltzkin> or scooby doo
16:52 < AnimalFarmPig> that's Velma
16:53 < AnimalFarmPig> oh, wait, there is a Veronica in that too, right? Fred's girlfriend?
16:53 < torquellini> >.>
16:53 < torquellini> oh lol that's amusing
16:54  * torquellini dated a veronica once
16:54  * torquellini has fred in his name
16:54 < torquellini> that was really confusing
16:54 < AnimalFarmPig> 'This Saturday-morning cartoon series featured four teenagers—Fred Jones, Daphne Blake, Velma Dinkley, and Norville "Shaggy" Rogers', nevermind. Fred's girlfriend is Daphne
16:55 < torquellini> norville
16:55 < torquellini> lol
16:55 < abakedapplepie> thats an unfortunate name
16:56 < grumplestiltzkin> That's right, so not even scooby doo
16:57 < grumplestiltzkin> felda:  I'm prety sure that gamersriseup thing is made out of actual gaycanceraids.
16:58 < felda> it's basically 100% ironic posting making fun of people who actually posted it non-ironically on 9gag and facebook
16:59 < JFDkthx> felda: the_pack is where it's at nowadays
16:59 < grumplestiltzkin> ok, makes more sense - the joke was lost on me, I dont have a frame of reference for the source (no facebook or.. wtf 9gag?)
17:00 < felda> grumplestiltzkin in the beginning
17:00 < felda> it wasn't a joke
17:00 < felda> people posted that with 100% sincerity trying to be badass
17:00 < AnimalFarmPig> felda: what were they advocating for?
17:00 <+orderchaos> hey felda, we just got some new networking equipment in my office. Guess what it is?
17:00 < JFDkthx> AnimalFarmPig: that gamers arent to be trifled with
17:00 <+orderchaos> Not pfsense :P
17:00 < felda> orderchaos I hope it isn't something that is capable of DNS
17:00 < corn266> distribution of females to incles
17:01 < AnimalFarmPig> JFDkthx: oh, good. I'm sick of the cultural appropriation.
17:01 < felda> AnimalFarmPig grumplestiltzkin get educated http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/gamer-joker
17:01 < JFDkthx> its not appropriation. its just that my skills as a semi pro cs 1.6 player relates to my real world potential to be a badass.
17:01 < felda> brb going on break
17:02 <@JollyRgrs> i'm going going... back back... to cali cali
17:02 <+orderchaos> felda: just some fortinet. I just wanted to make a pfsense joke. It DOES do DNS, but we did have issues with DNS when getting it setup because of course
17:02 < scwizard> my AAR for aws autoscaling groups and launch templates
17:02 < scwizard> https://www.reddit.com/r/aws/comments/8lamty/when_it_comes_to_autoscaling_groups_and_launch/
17:02 < JFDkthx> orderchaos: you play fornite?
17:02 < JFDkthx> fortnite
17:02 < scwizard> (still using eve terms even though I just deleted all my eve chars lol)
17:02 <@JollyRgrs> JFDkthx: no, he uses fork knife on his network
17:02 < JFDkthx> scwizard: why not sell them for plex?
17:02 <+orderchaos> JFDkthx: fortinet networking equipment, not fortnite the game. I've managed to avoid that
17:02 < JFDkthx> and then sell the plex for rl money
17:02 < JFDkthx> u lost buddy
17:03 < scwizard> JFDkthx: i extracted the sp then gave the isk away to someone from this channel
17:03 < AnimalFarmPig> felda: thanks amigo, makes more sense now
17:03 <@JollyRgrs> scwizard: hopefully not to Hunterkll
17:03 <@JollyRgrs> he doesn't need any help
17:03 < scwizard> probably not him
17:03 < scwizard> unless he was under another name
17:03 < JFDkthx> he needs help
17:03 < JFDkthx> dont lie
17:04 < JFDkthx> we have chili at the cafe today
17:04 < dragonfleas> Wow
17:04 <+orderchaos> JFDkthx: scwizard, not having followed the conversation so far I saw 'sell the/for plex' and was confused because I was thinking of the media server
17:04 < JFDkthx> im excited to see that used tomorrow in chili dogs
17:04 < dragonfleas> the bomb in the server room was a bamboozle
17:04 < JFDkthx> dragonfleas: how so
17:04 < scwizard> lol
17:04 <+orderchaos> why are there so many shared names....
17:04 < dragonfleas> JFDkthx, go look at the thread
17:04 < dragonfleas> OP confirmed it was a prank
17:04 < JFDkthx> link it
17:04 < dragonfleas> https://www.reddit.com/r/whatisthisthing/comments/8kzx5p/some_kind_of_explosive_lying_on_the_floor_of/
17:04 < scwizard> orderchaos: only 26 letters mate lol
17:04 < scwizard> same reason you can never find the domain name you want
17:05 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: i suspected it was when i looked at his other posts
17:05 < AnimalFarmPig> doesn't DNS now support non-ascii character sets?
17:06 < AnimalFarmPig> so, someone could register <some fucking emoji>.net?
17:06 < scwizard> maybe? but the internet is still in english
17:06 < AnimalFarmPig> or domain names in whatever less character set their language uses
17:06 < AnimalFarmPig> s/less/inferior
17:06 < Hunterkll> AnimalFarmPig, still ascii but encoded
17:07 < Astr0_Belt> I hate wsus.
17:07 < Hunterkll> ☃
17:07 < AnimalFarmPig> I see
17:07 < JFDkthx> ☃
17:08 < Hunterkll> ☃.com is http://xn--n3h.com/
17:08 < Hunterkll> AnimalFarmPig, https://xn--i-7iq.ws/
17:08 < Hunterkll> there you go
17:08 < Hunterkll> go get your emoji domains
17:08 < AnimalFarmPig> wtf is wrong with people
17:08 < AnimalFarmPig> ascii ought to be enough for anybody
17:09 < JFDkthx> felda.io should be poopemoji.io
17:09 < Hunterkll> from "huh isn't this possible" to "i hate you all" in 2 minutes flat
17:10 < Hunterkll> AnimalFarmPig, the best part? it's the result of a godaddy project
17:10 < Hunterkll> https://xn--i-7iq.ws/emojidomain/%F0%9F%92%A9
17:10 < Hunterkll> lol
17:10 <@JollyRgrs> lol https://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaCourt/comments/8l3du1/uwhysosadcz_finds_live_unexplored_antitank_missle/
17:11 <@JollyRgrs> karma court/karma police is a real thing?
17:11 < Hunterkll> it's hilarious
17:11 < Hunterkll> you've never seen it?
17:11 <@JollyRgrs> nope
17:11 <@JollyRgrs> i don't really reddit
17:11 < Hunterkll> you should sign up to be a judge
17:11 < Hunterkll> lulz
17:12 < scwizard> looks like the verdict is GUILTY
17:12 < scwizard> i should really do work now
17:12 <@JollyRgrs> b/c i don't know how to find where he was posting his update edits (since it wasn't on the main post), i had to go to his user and look at comments
17:12 <+A-KO> okay
17:12 <+A-KO> which of you sad fucks was involved in pissing off girlgerms on discord?
17:12 <@JollyRgrs> i saw other posts he had about ordinance, etc
17:12 < Hunterkll> not me!
17:12 < Hunterkll> i'm innocent for once
17:12 < ebol4> comrade o7
17:13 <@JollyRgrs> discord on discord? NOWAI
17:13 < Hunterkll> mainly because i've been travelling so much i haven't been able to use discord for the path months
17:13 < Hunterkll> :P
17:13 < vinrock> fuck discord im not installing another chat client
17:13 < Hunterkll> lol
17:14 <+A-KO> https://twitter.com/girlgerms/status/998778315199545345
17:14 < Hunterkll> wat
17:14 < khelpw> So just use the webclient, vinrock
17:14 < Hunterkll> A-KO, i don't think i've ever even THOUGHT of joining that discord
17:14 < Hunterkll> lol
17:14 < scwizard> vinrock: it's the same thingydingy as slack
17:14 < scwizard> in that it eats all your ram
17:14 < Hunterkll> r/sysadmin is a toxic sub as it is
17:14 < vinrock> oh i didnt know there was one
17:14 < rhqq> hi Hunterkll
17:14 < Hunterkll> now, R-S-G is the best
17:14 < rhqq> long time no see ;p
17:14 < Hunterkll> die in a fire
17:14 < AnimalFarmPig> Hunterkll: it's not godaddy's fault. It's the fault of the people who weren't willing to simplify their language to work within the 128 characters available in ascii
17:15 < Hunterkll> AnimalFarmPig, the emoji domain buying thing
17:15 < Hunterkll> IS LITERALLY GODADDY FAULT
17:15 < genr8_> i used to hate discord but now i use it all the time
17:15 < AnimalFarmPig> Hunterkll: yes
17:15 < vinrock> lotta gender talk in this twitter
17:15 < Hunterkll> godaddy made it
17:15 < JFDkthx> does chili work on a salad?
17:15 < vinrock> hm
17:15 < AnimalFarmPig> Hunterkll: no, it's unicode's fault for existing
17:15 < Hunterkll> woah
17:15 < rhqq> JFDkthx: why not
17:15 < vinrock> doesnt sound bad
17:15 < Hunterkll> my credit card balance is $1,337
17:15 < vinrock> l33t
17:15 < AnimalFarmPig> or, whoever invented unicode
17:15 < genr8_> its better cause the chat is more interactive. more embedded videos and images
17:15 < rhqq> Hunterkll: didnt know american banks have 3 decimal points
17:15 < rhqq> ;p
17:15 < JFDkthx> lets find out
17:16 < Hunterkll> rhqq, *credit card* balance
17:16 < Hunterkll> :P
17:16 < Hunterkll> https://imgur.com/NhihbRC
17:16 < rhqq> still, never seen ¢0.7
17:16 < rhqq> ;ppp
17:16 < genr8_> authentic
17:16 < genr8_> rhqq: idk if you're being dumb or sarcastic
17:16 < rhqq> sarcastic
17:16 < JFDkthx> greens, egg, cheese chicken, blue cheese dressing, banana peppers, japaleno peps, and chili
17:16 < rhqq> just too slow to explain it right :S
17:17 < Hunterkll> genr8_,
17:17 < Hunterkll> <rhqq> ;ppp | wasn't a clue?
17:17 < genr8_> it was funnier the first time without explanation
17:17 < Hunterkll> i mean
17:17 < rhqq> Hunterkll: good point ;-)
17:17 < rhqq> genr8_: yeah, my bad
17:17 < JFDkthx> rhqq: vinrock can confirm, is pgood
17:17 < rhqq> i thought it wasnt clear enough
17:17 < Hunterkll> rhqq, for what it's worth, some of my accounts have 8 decimal points
17:18 < genr8_> clearly
17:18 < rhqq> JFDkthx: i just had scrambled eggs with chili
17:18 < genr8_> theres 8 decimals in bitcoin :P
17:18 < Hunterkll> nah
17:18 < Hunterkll> i've got fractions of US cents in some shit
17:18 < Hunterkll> it's annoying honestly
17:18 < vinrock> i cant stop reading this twitter someone posted
17:18 < vinrock> these are terrible people
17:18 < Hunterkll> how the fuck do i get like, $0.00003 to round up enough to withdrawl
17:19 < vinrock> "Cbf paste linking from phone but I agree with @AynRandy that discord is slack for incels."
17:19 < JFDkthx> take a loss and wire it to someone
17:19 <+orderchaos> Hunterkll: that sounds like an office space problem
17:19 < vinrock> i knew it!
17:19 < genr8_> was just gonna say office space lol
17:19 < JFDkthx> vinrock: is mayonnaise an incel?
17:19 < vinrock> i think so
17:19 <+orderchaos> Hunterkll: buy a red swingline stapler with it
17:20 < Hunterkll> lol
17:20 < vinrock> "who was it? Can always get those fucks banned from the IRC channel. I have no tolerance for that shit."
17:21 < Hunterkll> making CC payments is boring
17:21 < Hunterkll> lulz
17:21 < vinrock> aw ran out of funny poasts
17:21 < Hunterkll> clearly i should just not pay
17:21 < alazare619> anyone here with a nexus 6p
17:21 < abakedapplepie> no i have a phone with a working screen
17:22 < Hunterkll> WTF
17:22 < Hunterkll> I HAVE TWO CREDIT CARDS WITH A $1337 BALANCE
17:22 <+orderchaos> combined or each?
17:22 < AnimalFarmPig> maybe you've been hacked?
17:22 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/NhihbRC.png
17:22 < AnimalFarmPig> or, maybe this is a sign
17:22 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/clXqwDl.png
17:22 < Hunterkll> orderchaos, 2 different ones
17:23 <+orderchaos> that seems... intentional
17:23 < Hunterkll> its totally not
17:23 < Hunterkll> the one with the slightly higher balance i've been nuking, that's just the result of the anime convention
17:23 < Hunterkll> the one with the 9 cents at the end i've been min paymenting until i'm done nuking the first one
17:24 < felda> vinrock lets all his WiFi network connect to his Windows DHCP and DNS Server
17:24 < Hunterkll> that's just what it settled to after all the bar tabs cleared
17:24 < Hunterkll> >_X
17:24 < felda> "It's just easier that way" he says
17:24 < vinrock> felda my guest networks leads directly to the dc
17:24 < vinrock> the one and only dc in this organization
17:24 < Hunterkll> I mean
17:24 < Hunterkll> if you're only letting dhcp and DNS traffic through to it
17:24 < Hunterkll> then what's the problem?
17:24 < Astr0_Belt> Does anyone have any good resources for reading about windows updates before applying them? We are about to role out WSUS and I don't want to blind approve patches.
17:24 < felda> licensing that's the problem
17:25 < Hunterkll> not really
17:25 < felda> you think he has a CAL for all those users?
17:25 < Hunterkll> there's ways to not have to worry about that
17:25 < felda> nah he don't
17:25 < Hunterkll> depends on how he's licensing
17:25 < Hunterkll> if he has 0 CALs he's fucked
17:25 < Hunterkll> lol
17:26 < Hunterkll> he probably has 0 CALs
17:26 < Hunterkll> or whatever came bundled with it
17:26 < vinrock> Astr0_Belt ms used to publish a lot of information if you looked up the kb article
17:26 < vinrock> nowadays they're more like 'trust us, just install dis ish"
17:27 < Astr0_Belt> Vinrock: Hmm okay, I just didnt know if you guys knew about any blogs that covered the new KBs.
17:27 <+A-KO> Astr0_Belt: There's tons of KB articles on the updates, but they don't usually get into the super itty nitty gritty. They've gotten better in the past year.
17:27 <+A-KO> There are no blogs, but there are KB articles usually published later in the day
17:27 < Astr0_Belt> And thats through MS?
17:27 < vinrock> yeah
17:27 < vinrock> microsoft knowledgebase
17:27 < Astr0_Belt> Cool. Thank you for the help.
17:27 <+A-KO> Astr0_Belt: Honestly, at this point, here's what I do: I approve patches on Tuesday, I immediately patch my lab environment Tuesday afternoon/evening. I give it about 2-3 days, and then I'm patching prod starting that Thursday
17:27 < vinrock> no doubt
17:27 <+A-KO> and I've set up A/B patching now
17:28 <+A-KO> Some Servers patch Thursday, and the remainder patches Sunday
17:28 < vinrock> someone is asking me if i can transfer text messages from old phone that wont take a charge to new phone
17:28 < vinrock> im not good with magic any you guys have tricks i can attempt
17:28 <+A-KO> This gives me Wednesday to look for any broken issues, and gives me Thursday to fix any broken servers. And I refuse to patch Friday because fuck that much work on Friday
17:28 < Astr0_Belt> They dont want me to patch during the weekend, :/ they want patches to install Tuesday/Thursday.
17:29 <+A-KO> so do A/B the following week
17:29 <+A-KO> Patch Tuesday -> 7 calendar days -> A-Group Patching -> 2 calendar days -> B Group patching
17:29 <+A-KO> this should give you enough time to unapprove patches or let MS automatically update a patch via WSUS
17:30 <+A-KO> Also, make sure your WSUS Sync schedule is aggressive. I'd sync every hour, basically.
17:30 < Astr0_Belt> So I am only patching on the 1st and 3rd week of the month unless critical.
17:30 <+A-KO> nah I'd roll the patches the same week
17:30 <+A-KO> just a week after Patch Tuesday
17:30 <+A-KO> also, push the "Security Monthly Quality Update" patches, don't use the "Security Only" patches
17:31 <+A-KO> I'm a little more aggressive on my patching schedule personally
17:31 <+A-KO> but you don't have to be, evaluate your needs
17:32 < Astr0_Belt> Hmm okay. Ill have to keep that in mind.
17:32 <+A-KO> Here's what I'd do: Set a WSUS sync schedule of 1 hour, set an automatic update interval of 1 hour. Set the GPO that says "automatically install non-breaking updates" or w/e the thing is. Then automatically approve all updates marked as "Definition Updates" in WSUS.
17:33 <+A-KO> This will catch the Windows Defender definition updates, install them automatically, and give you ~1 hour of latency before you see the result in WSUS Console
17:33 < Astr0_Belt> by non-breaking updates do you mean updates that dont require reboot?
17:33 <+A-KO> yes
17:33 <+A-KO> well, sort of
17:33 <+A-KO> it's basically patches that aren't going to change code/etc.
17:34 < felda>   (•̀ 益•̀) someone took my fan
17:34 < Astr0_Belt> Happen to know the name of that GPO?
17:34 < felda> it's getting hot in here
17:34 < felda> and I'M ABOUT TO SEIZE THE MEANS OF WIND PRODUCTION
17:34 <+A-KO> An aggressive WSUS Sync schedule also catches any detection changes or any code changes to patches. So maybe MS releases, I dunno, KB3333333 on Tuesday. They determine there's an issue and it won't install right, they quickly release a fix, 1 hour later, if you've approved KB3333333, a new sync will automatically pull the code changes from MS directly and you don't have to do anything.
17:35 <+A-KO> I forget, it's morning, I'm tired, and don't have access to my environment atm :P
17:35 < Astr0_Belt> Haha gotcha. Np, Ill look it up.
17:35 <+A-KO> it's in Admin Templates -> Windows Components -> Windows Update
17:35 <+A-KO> somewhere in there
17:35 < Astr0_Belt> Yeah thats where I am at now.
17:37 <+A-KO> also, be aggressive on declining superseded updates, even if they're needed and already approve dthem last month (make sure to approve this month's patches). Adjust your IIS WSUSAppPool memory to use more RAM than is configured for, this prevents "Reset Server Node" issues with the WSUS Console. Run the cleanup regularly.
17:37 <+A-KO> you can schedule tasks to perform cleanups for WSUS Maintenance.
17:38 <+A-KO> https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/scriptcenter/6f8cde49-5c52-4abd-9820-f1d270ddea61
17:39 < cantibot> pff...more like Re-index my testicles
17:39 < cantibot> "windows update hasn't been able to run in over 30 days"
17:39 < cantibot> well that sounds like a personal problem!
17:40 < Astr0_Belt> Thank you A-KO for all of the information. I really appreciate it.
17:40 <+A-KO> so what you'll want is a scheduled task that stops the WSUSService & W3SVC Services, executes that cleanup script, waits for a good result, then restarts those two services. I'd run this monthly.
17:42 <+A-KO> also, I'd monthly execute a server cleanup. Run this regularly: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/wsus/invoke-wsusservercleanup?view=win10-ps
17:42 <+A-KO> If you're using Windows Server 2016 WSUS
17:43 <+A-KO> might work on 2012R2, too ; not sure.
17:43 <+A-KO> nope, no go, 2016 only
17:43 <@JollyRgrs> you know you grilled chicken right when the next day, after microwaving it, it is still nice and juicy and tender
17:43 < Astr0_Belt> Im running on 2012r2
17:43 < alazare619> 2 more days till my nexus 6p arrives
17:43 < alazare619> thank god
17:43 < alazare619> living with a broken phone sucks
17:44 <+A-KO> https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/scriptcenter/fd39c7d4-05bb-4c2d-8a99-f92ca8d08218
17:44 <+A-KO> Here's a script to do it on older WSUS
17:44 <+A-KO> run that once a month (not at the same time as you run the DB optimization script)
17:44 <+A-KO> I'd schedule them like a week apart
17:44 < cantibot> god this fabriclive mix is dopeee
17:46 < sideup66> Topkek Comcast https://techcrunch.com/2018/05/21/comcast-is-leaking-the-names-and-passwords-of-customers-wireless-routers/amp/
17:46 <@JollyRgrs> lol
17:46 < abakedapplepie> wait
17:47 < Astr0_Belt> A-KO Thank you again!
17:47 < abakedapplepie> windows 10 has openssh now?
17:47 <+A-KO> yes
17:47 < int0x1C8> how the fuck had I never heard of Karnivool before
17:47 < abakedapplepie> hot shit
17:47 < abakedapplepie> i did not know that
17:47 < sideup66> Pfsense
17:47 < sideup66> Pfsense
17:47 < sideup66> Pfsense
17:47 <+A-KO> abakedapplepie: it has both openssh Win32 binaries *and* it has WSL, which includes OpenSSH with Ubuntu/whichever.
17:47 <+A-KO> you can use either/or
17:47 < felda> Code_Man65 could you mute sideup66 for like 5 minutes for spam?
17:47 < int0x1C8> esnesfp
17:47 < dragonfleas> Pfsense
17:48 <+A-KO> abakedapplepie: >>>>>>> OpenSSH_for_Windows_7.6p1, LibreSSL 2.6.4
17:48 < sideup66> Hey
17:48 < dragonfleas> go ahead try to ban me Code_Man65 i bet you can't
17:48 < sideup66> I have pfsense now
17:48 < sideup66> It's better than pfsense
17:48 < dragonfleas> p f s e n s e
17:48 < sideup66> Carribean pfsense
17:48 < sideup66> No more love on the run
17:48 < Astr0_Belt> sensePF?
17:48 < cantibot> fuck you all opensense is where it's at
17:48 < felda> I am experiencing sexual assault please send help
17:48 < Astr0_Belt> ^ Nope
17:48 < cantibot> felda you a bad b o i
17:49 < cantibot> how do 3 raspi's just randomly die?
17:49 <@JollyRgrs> S T O P
17:49 < Hunterkll> hmmm
17:49 <@JollyRgrs> D R O P
17:49 <@JollyRgrs> SHUT EM DOWN
17:49 <@JollyRgrs> OPEN UP SHOP
17:49 < cantibot> OOOHHH
17:49 < cantibot> NOOO
17:49 < Hunterkll> A-KO, windows 10 has more vulnerabilities than 7 every year, but windows 7 has more serious ones
17:49 < int0x1C8> GRRRR
17:49 < Hunterkll> neat
17:49 <@JollyRgrs> int0x1C8: lol
17:49 < Hunterkll> https://www.cvedetails.com/cvss-score-charts.php?fromform=1&vendor_id=&product_id=32238&startdate=2015-05-01&enddate=2018-05-22
17:49 < int0x1C8> THATS HOW RUFF RYDAS ROLL
17:49 < Hunterkll> ^ win 10
17:49 <+A-KO> Hunterkll: because people are attacking it more?
17:49 < Hunterkll> https://www.cvedetails.com/cvss-score-charts.php?fromform=1&vendor_id=&product_id=17153&startdate=2015-05-01&enddate=2018-05-22
17:49 < Hunterkll> ^ win 7
17:50 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: it's ok b/c intel is about to surpass microsoft
17:50 <@JollyRgrs> #trending
17:50 < Hunterkll> A-KO, nah, looks like sloppy code to me, because the bulk is like info disclosure
17:50 < Hunterkll> whereas on 7 it's more like
17:50 < Hunterkll> ur machine is rekt
17:50 < Hunterkll> also a lot of the 10 'vulnerabilities' aren't even usable
17:50  * cantibot burns all x86 buys weird ass MIPS hardware
17:50 < Hunterkll> because of built in mitigations
17:50 < cantibot> there, problem solved :D
17:50 < cantibot> PLAN 9 on MIPS
17:51 < Hunterkll> A-KO, like I know of two CVEs that didn't work on win10 but got patched there anyway
17:51 < cantibot> *MMMMMMONSTER KILL*
17:51 < cantibot> oh. shit.
17:51 < Hunterkll> https://cloudblogs.microsoft.com/microsoftsecure/2017/01/13/hardening-windows-10-with-zero-day-exploit-mitigations/
17:51 < Hunterkll> like that
17:51 < Hunterkll> it's neat
17:51 < Hunterkll> people are using CVE counts to say win10 is shit
17:51 < Hunterkll> lol
17:51 < Hunterkll> and i'm like
17:51 < Hunterkll> lemme tear into thos
17:51 < Hunterkll> oh ya'll dumb
17:51 < felda> Win10 is bae
17:52 <@JollyRgrs> why do ppl hate on win10?
17:52 < felda> because it's new and isn't Win7
17:52 <@JollyRgrs> srsly best windows since win2k IMO
17:52 < felda> also ads tho
17:52 < felda> and the start menu which is legit trash
17:52 <@JollyRgrs> felda: not trash for me?
17:52 < felda> better than Win8 by a long shot
17:52 < felda> but the searching is 100% dogshit
17:53 <@JollyRgrs> what?
17:53 < felda> OOOHOHOH let me search the internet for regedit
17:53 <@JollyRgrs> search is BAMF for me
17:53 < Hunterkll> i dunno
17:53 < Hunterkll> i wrote some shit
17:53 < rootsudo> Some delicious irony: https://www.iad.gov/iad/library/reports/steps-to-secure-web-browsing.cfm
17:53 < Hunterkll> here JollyRgrs https://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/8l58d3/i_am_sick_of_ms_installing_stupid_games_on_my/dzdu97l/?context=3
17:53 < Hunterkll> it's a bit disjointed but eh
17:53 < felda> I fucking love Windows 10
17:53 <@JollyRgrs> hypraware: i thoguht they stopped that a while ago?
17:53 < felda> it has the best hardware support
17:53 < rootsudo> Really click that link and you'll laugh and be put on a list
17:53 <@JollyRgrs> i don't keep getting new games installed
17:53 < felda> but the start menu is the one thing that really drags it down for me
17:53 < cantibot> I still can't find a good reason NOT to run the LTSB build of windows 10 on desktops?
17:53 < rootsudo> I miss NT 5.0
17:53 < cantibot> I know it's not "right"?
17:54 < cantibot> or "whatever"
17:54 <@JollyRgrs> cantibot: b/c ltsb is like running winCE or win embedded
17:54 < JFDkthx> felda: you must have skipped windows 8
17:54 < alazare619> Hunterkll:  i messaged ya
17:54 <@JollyRgrs> felda: so you know you can disable cortana, right?
17:54 <@JollyRgrs> makes search local only
17:54 < cantibot> JollyRgrs how so? I am running it on my desktop it runs just like a pro version minus all the bullshit
17:54 < Hunterkll> alazare619, y
17:54 <@JollyRgrs> you can also remove tiles if you don't like those
17:54 < rootsudo> you can also disable local search
17:54 < Hunterkll> i dont pay attention to that shit
17:54 < Hunterkll> lol
17:54 < rootsudo> disable indexer lol
17:54 < Hunterkll> cantibot, so is running 8.1 industry pro
17:54 < Hunterkll> the previous windows embedded
17:54 < felda> the way the start menu fundamentally works is worse than Windows 7
17:54 < alazare619> well tried getting ahold of ya the other day but you were asleep :P
17:54 < Hunterkll> whcih is what LTSB is
17:55 < cantibot> ent.
17:55 < cantibot> 1701
17:55 < Hunterkll> cantibot, you're also a year and a half behind on development features and you're JUST BARELY
17:55 <@JollyRgrs> cantibot: so tell me how that new notepad.exe works for you
17:55 < Hunterkll> on the minimum required by many games
17:55 < Hunterkll> :(
17:55 <@JollyRgrs> or the linux installs from the store?
17:55 < cantibot> "features"?
17:55 < Hunterkll> 1607 is needed by Civ 5/6
17:55 < Hunterkll> lol
17:55 < cantibot> That is all shit I don't care about
17:55 < Hunterkll> so you're just barely there
17:55 <@JollyRgrs> lol
17:55 < Hunterkll> cantibot, you don't care about security?
17:55 <@JollyRgrs> cantibot: then run linux
17:55 < cantibot> Security updates are still deployed normal for LTSB
17:55 < Hunterkll> i'm talking like things like hypervisor code integrity, defender application guard, baked in EMET style stuff everywhere, etc
17:55 < Hunterkll> no
17:55 < cantibot> it's just the "features" if I am not mistaken
17:55 < Hunterkll> those are vuln fixes
17:56 < Hunterkll> you don't have any of the shit i just listed
17:56 <@JollyRgrs> "features"... yeah... in quotes :P
17:56 < cantibot> lol
17:56 < cantibot> okay I am being difficult
17:56 < cantibot> But this is my use case
17:56 < cantibot> These are mostly lab machines, in a k12 enviroment
17:56 < Hunterkll> "If it runs office, it doesn't run LTSB"
17:56 <@JollyRgrs> if you're fine with it... then fine, but understand that it isn't for most people
17:56 < cantibot> they all have deepfreeze and go back to a state after a reboot
17:56 < Hunterkll> lol
17:56 < Hunterkll> cantibot, just use the built in filesystem filtler drivers
17:57 < Hunterkll> why are you even using deepfreeze when you have LTSB embedded features
17:57 < cantibot> That is a good question?
17:58 < Hunterkll> cantibot, i think this'd be close to what ya need
17:58 < Hunterkll> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/customize/enterprise/unified-write-filter
17:58 < cantibot> I used to use windows steadystate back in the xp days and man it was so nice
17:58 < Hunterkll> IIRC it's possible to use SCCM to unseal those
17:58 < Hunterkll> and patch them
17:59 < Hunterkll> then reseal
17:59 < Hunterkll> not sure how it's been a few years
17:59 < cantibot> but then windows 7 got rid of it and then I started useing DF
17:59 < Hunterkll> ah
17:59 < Hunterkll> yea, but see
17:59 < Hunterkll> now you're running the successor to windows embedded
17:59 < Hunterkll> so you actually have embedded features
17:59 < Hunterkll> :P
17:59 < dragonfleas> Is there a situation where I should ever be a contracted IT employee? I feel like these recruiting agencies have such bad benefits unless i'm making a 75% salary increase it wouldn't be worth it because of how much insurances cost without being employer paid or contributed to as such
18:00 < dragonfleas> Recruiting agencies always contact me with a higher paying job and I probe them about it and do the calculations on a spreadsheet of an income analysis, it's always less than my salary.
18:00 < dragonfleas> I guess that's an example of why direct-hire is always the goto.
18:00 < dragonfleas> Anyone have any success stories with any big name recruiting agencies that give decent benefits?
18:01 < Hunterkll> I highly reccomend robert half
18:01 < Hunterkll> if you're into submissive bondage
18:01 < SynMonger> what's a recruiting agency?
18:01 < ebol4> just plan on being jobless when your contract expires, plan ahead
18:02 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: what do you mean by decent benefits?
18:03 < AnimalFarmPig> depends if you're a W2 contractor or 1099
18:03 < ebol4> free donut friday
18:03 < dragonfleas> JollyRgrs, I'm referring to health insurance with a less than 10000 dollar deductible lmao
18:03 < AnimalFarmPig> I made bank as a W2 contractor and had decent benefits
18:03 < dragonfleas> Like not "placeholder" benefits
18:03 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: most will let you join their group, but not contribute
18:03 <@JollyRgrs> just depends as everyone else has said
18:04 <@JollyRgrs> imo, always worth the probe if the job seems mildly interesting
18:04 < dragonfleas> There's a company I'm super interested in applying for
18:04 <@JollyRgrs> btw... anyone looking for a job in buffalo and knows bitlocker... lemme know... lol.  j/k i don't care, but this recruiter tried to get me for it
18:04 < dragonfleas> anyone heard of Navico Inc?
18:05 < ebol4> i have now
18:05 < dragonfleas> I have a friend that is a senior sysadmin there
18:05 <@JollyRgrs> is that like an american knock-off of Navijo?
18:05 < dragonfleas> he said he would put in a good word for me, but they're hiring a junior sysadmin position at 70k a year starting
18:05 < ebol4> location?
18:05 < ebol4> that seems very high for jr
18:05 < dragonfleas> local
18:06 < dragonfleas> it's my city
18:06 < ebol4> that was extremely descriptive thank you
18:06 < dragonfleas> oh
18:06 < ebol4> lol
18:06 < ebol4> meant city sorry
18:06 < dragonfleas> he said that's including bonus
18:06 < dragonfleas> he said on average yearly bonuses are around 5 thousand
18:06 < ebol4> still super high, i was making like 40k as a jr
18:06 < ebol4> no bonus
18:07 < Hunterkll> lol
18:07 < Hunterkll> super high you say? :p
18:07 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: in fact... this buffalo job (4 mo. likely extended to 2 yrs)... but the recruiter offers full health, dental,vision and even a 401k match
18:07 < grumplestiltzkin> dragonfleas:   what Hunterkll said - Robert Half is pretty much the go-to headhunter. Just get into contract-to-hire mode
18:07 < Hunterkll> on a scale of one to colorado
18:07 < Hunterkll> grumplestiltzkin, are you fucking kidding? they're the most abusive
18:07 < Hunterkll> read BOTH of my lines
18:07 < Hunterkll> <Hunterkll> I highly reccomend robert half
18:07 < Hunterkll> <Hunterkll> if you're into submissive bondage
18:07 < grumplestiltzkin> wow.   I read  *unless* youre into submissive bondate
18:07 < grumplestiltzkin> ge
18:08 < Hunterkll> lol
18:08 < Hunterkll> gg
18:08 < grumplestiltzkin> reading fail.       I had a pretty good experience with robert half
18:08 < Hunterkll> yes
18:08 < ebol4> all i know about robert half is that their recruiters try to give me jobs i'm not interested in at all
18:08 < Hunterkll> and i have good experiences with modern apps on the windows store and SCCM sideloading them
18:08 < Hunterkll> doesn't mean bad things still don't happen
18:09 < dragonfleas> ebol4, i'm in oklahoma
18:09 < dragonfleas> that salary is super high for oklahoma too
18:09 <@JollyRgrs> modis isn't so bad
18:09 < ebol4> yeah that sounds nuts for OK
18:09 < ebol4> also are you from oklahoma, because you're OK
18:09 < dragonfleas> i mean
18:09 < dragonfleas> LOL
18:09 < grumplestiltzkin> I would guess that any headhunter organization, your experience will come down to the individual person working your case
18:09 < dragonfleas> should i apply for the position?
18:09 < dragonfleas> i mean why not lol
18:09 < ebol4> if making 70k as a jr appeals to you, yes
18:10 < dragonfleas> I wanted to stay with my current company for a few years
18:10 < dragonfleas> but 70k sounds nice
18:10 <@JollyRgrs> grumplestiltzkin: most likely, but there can be cultural things within the org that are found among all employees there sometimes
18:10 < dragonfleas> i could finally buy a wrx sti
18:10 < dragonfleas> i'm only making 40k right now
18:10 < AnimalFarmPig> Robert Half got me job n - 1 as a direct hire. I came away with a good impression of them-- very professional. Job didn't turn out to be a good fit, but that wasn't the fault of the recruiters.
18:10 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: as muhc as you might want that car... you shouldn't base your career on that
18:10 < ebol4> you could buy 2 skateboards and a rope and build the dangermobile
18:10 < dragonfleas> JollyRgrs, it's more of a goal for me to obtain JollyRgrs
18:11 < dragonfleas> One of my life goals is to own one of those cars, and it's completely obtainable
18:11 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: your next job should A) be more money and B) help better your career
18:11 < grumplestiltzkin> c) invest more
18:11 <@JollyRgrs> if you get a $70k job at a call center... i would not recommend
18:11 <@JollyRgrs> if you get a $70k moving up the ladder to a position you want and leads towards your ideal position... go for it
18:11 <@JollyRgrs> given that it has stability, etc.
18:12 < brendan-> titles mean shit
18:12 < ihre> i read titties, i thought wtf
18:12 < dragonfleas> JollyRgrs, Junior is a good place to start with 70k, in my state, 70k is like doctors pay because COL is so low here
18:12 < brendan-> call me, "shitstain brendan-" for all i care as long as the offer letter states you get paid $xxx annually
18:13 < dragonfleas> 2 bed 2 bath apartment here costs around 700 a month
18:13 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: in good or bad part of town?
18:13 < ebol4> dang, i could maybe get the world's shittiest studio with a roommate for that much
18:13 <@JollyRgrs> or is your town too small to have different parts?
18:13 < dragonfleas> JollyRgrs, medium part of town, most of Tulsa is a shithole
18:13 < dragonfleas> we're one of the most dangerous cities
18:13 < brendan-> livepd taught me that dragonfleas
18:14 <@JollyRgrs> b/c torandos or gangs?
18:14 <@JollyRgrs> haha
18:14 < dragonfleas> brendan-, yep, i know sticks personally lol, my dad was a tulsa county sheriff for 15 years
18:14 < grumplestiltzkin> tornado gangs
18:14 < dragonfleas> i love LivePD
18:14 < brendan-> nice
18:14 <@JollyRgrs> GANGNADO!
18:14 < brendan-> he's a cool dude
18:14 < dragonfleas> yeah he's very handsome lol
18:14 < brendan-> very level headed, but also looks like he'd bash your face in
18:14 < AnimalFarmPig> dragonfleas life goal #d) move out of Tusla to the big city-- Oklahoma City
18:14 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: you planning to stay in town or wanna get outta dodge (i know dodge ain't that far from you)
18:14 < dragonfleas> yeah he's one of the most respectable guys that work for TPD
18:14 < brendan-> so my irc senses are tingling... either you're gay or a chick dragonfleas :D
18:14 <@JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: HAHAHAHAHAHA
18:15 < dragonfleas> brendan-, i'm actually a non-binary biogender, i identify as a leaf
18:15 < asimon> Why is buying server ram so complicated
18:15 <@JollyRgrs> brendan-: why don't you take dragonfleas to a PM and ask him in a dimmly lit room :P
18:15 < brendan-> JollyRgrs: that's my overall plan. gotta plant the seed first
18:15 < brendan-> no pun intended on the leaf remark
18:15 < dragonfleas> AnimalFarmPig, why the hell would i want to live in OKC
18:15 < AnimalFarmPig> there was a possibility that I was going to be transfered to OKC a few years ago. Wife and I visited and looked around. We were surprised by how nice it seemed. We liked Norman best.
18:15 < brendan-> clearly we're meant to be
18:15 <@JollyRgrs> brendan-: nor pun intended on "planting the seed"?
18:16 < brendan-> correct
18:16 < AnimalFarmPig> dragonfleas: because you want to move to the big city!
18:16 < dragonfleas> AnimalFarmPig, norman is like the only decent area
18:16 < brendan-> [12:15:21] dragonfleas:	brendan-, i'm actually a non-binary biogender, i identify as a leaf
18:16 < dragonfleas> AnimalFarmPig, OKC isn't much bigger than tulsa
18:16 < brendan-> dragonfleas identifies as a leaf & i'm planting a seed
18:16 < AnimalFarmPig> at least 50% bigger
18:16 < khelpw> I have a somewhat irrational hatred for Norman OK
18:16 < brendan-> it's true love
18:16 < dragonfleas> how the fuck does everyone in here know about oklahoma
18:16 < dragonfleas> no one lives in oklahoma, we're a fuck off state like south dakota or montana
18:17 < AnimalFarmPig> khelpw: UT?
18:17 <+A-KO> oh god my stomach...
18:17 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNua1lFDuDI
18:17 < ihre> well, timothy mcveigh pretty much put it on the map?
18:17 < khelpw> In High school I was part of a robotics team. The finals were set to take place in Hawii and we came in 2nd at the regional semifinals, entitling us to attend the finals etc
18:17 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: b/c CWS?
18:17 < scwizard> ahh this is what I like to see
18:17 < scwizard> https://pastebin.com/raw/BdJ7Sh8a
18:17 < khelpw> well about a month before those finals were meant to take place, a volcano erupted right behind the hotel where it was meant to take place
18:17 < scwizard> so hacky! but it works
18:17 < khelpw> and so the finals were moved. To fucking Norman, OK.
18:18 <@JollyRgrs> khelpw: HAHAHAHAHAHA
18:18 < AnimalFarmPig> I'm sorry
18:18 <@JollyRgrs> where, RIGHT before you were supposed to go, a TORNADO happened righ behind the hotel
18:18 <@JollyRgrs> so then it got moved to... Hell, MI?
18:18 < dragonfleas> khelpw, lmaoooo
18:18 <@JollyRgrs> kalamazoo?
18:18 < khelpw> You're actually very close. The competition was actually delayed for a couple of days because tornado warnings kept shutting down the convention center or whatever
18:19 < dragonfleas> JollyRgrs, seriously we're so accustomed to tornados that the sirens will be going off and i'm outside smoking a cigarette lol
18:19 <@JollyRgrs> khelpw: haha
18:19 < vinrock> lol jesus christ
18:19 < vinrock> HAG seats are DUMB expensive
18:19 < vinrock> $3353.20 for the 'executive' office chair
18:19 < khelpw> I remember one dumbfuck on the team managed to forget to add water to his ez mac and nuke it anyway, filling our (only) hotel room with pungent smoke and landing us in the parking lot for a couple of hours while they air out the room
18:19 < AnimalFarmPig> if there were going to be a tornado in Norman, you would probably hear about it. It's like the University there is like the premeire school of meterology
18:19 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: we don't even have sirens here... tornado comes, hope you have the radio or tv on so you can see the emergency broadcast telling you there's a warning
18:19 < dragonfleas> JollyRgrs, wtf what kind of state doesn't have sirens
18:20 < khelpw> and we were sitting out in the rented bus that we had been hauled up in, looking on primitive gmaps for _anything_ to do
18:20 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: ones where hurricanes are known about days (even weeks sometimes?) in advance
18:20 < khelpw> Only thing we could find was a nearby place called "Slaughterville" that seemed like it might be entertaining.
18:20 <@JollyRgrs> khelpw: and it was a literal cow slaughterhouse?
18:21 < corn266> no it was a sarcastic laughter house
18:21 <@JollyRgrs> :(
18:21 <@JollyRgrs> lol
18:21 < dragonfleas> khelpw, i've been to Slaughterville before
18:21 < khelpw> We never went. the teachers who were supervising us didn't have the same sense of humor.
18:21 < khelpw> Anything good there?
18:21 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/5/22/17379814/ovie-smart-tupperware-food-waste-alexa-google-assistant
18:22 < dragonfleas> we have a Gay, OK and Straight, OK
18:22 < dragonfleas> we also have Okay, OK
18:22 < dragonfleas> and Moon, OK
18:23 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: pls tell me that gay, ok "butts" up against straight, ok
18:24 < dragonfleas> yep
18:25 < mrghostman> this road is also in Oklahoma http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1MnUKGSOPYk/UeAu7bOp1dI/AAAAAAAACd8/S0ZkDRtd5rM/s1600/lotawatah.jpg
18:25 <@JollyRgrs> mrghostman: is there a.... lota watah along that road?
18:25 < mrghostman> JollyRgrs: pretty big lake :D
18:25 < corn266> ayyyy I'm on a roadsign
18:26 < mrghostman> its one of the exits for lake eufaula
18:26 <@JollyRgrs> you falla?
18:26 < asimon> Can someone help me identify what are the important numbers here if ordering a replacement? https://imgur.com/a/59jj3aO
18:26 < mrghostman> you falla in a lotawatah
18:27 < asimon> I found some ram with the same model number but the "T8 AB" is not identical. What do those refer to / do I need to care?
18:28 < corn266> Yea even on their website the PB model doesn't match the clock speed / latency https://www.skhynix.com/products.view.do?vseq=1037&cseq=75
18:28 < Hunterkll> all i'd care about is PC3L-12800R
18:28 < Hunterkll> lol
18:29 < asimon> Hunterkll: That gives more or less a complete specification in terms of compatibility?
18:29 < Hunterkll> more or less
18:29 < Hunterkll> I mix brands all the time in servers
18:29 < vinrock> wtf they make the road signs in oklahoma out of wooden planks?
18:29 < vinrock> thats country af
18:29 < dragonfleas> don't look at jobs when you're happy at your current position
18:29 < dragonfleas> it makes you excited for no reason
18:30 < dragonfleas> "OOOOH THAT SOUNDS LIKE A COOL PLACE TO WORK"
18:30 < Hunterkll> asimon, if you really care, go down as far as CL-11 for timing
18:30 < corn266> eh vinrock over here we still have some of those concrete poles like on hiking trails as road signs
18:30 < Hunterkll> but that's all you really need to dig into
18:30 < dragonfleas> I need to stay at this company for 3 years minimum
18:30 <+A-KO> so Hunterkll
18:30 <+A-KO> had a DC bomb yesterday
18:30 <+A-KO> get this
18:30 <+A-KO> LSASS.EXE consumed > 10.5GB of ram
18:30 < vinrock> corn266 where you at because whenever i see those they're in ritzy towns
18:30 < Hunterkll> carbonb black? :P
18:30 <+A-KO> on a small environment
18:30 < Hunterkll> lolol
18:30 < vinrock> it's rustic or some shit
18:30 <+A-KO> could be, but doubtful, honestly.
18:30 < corn266> backcountry virginia
18:31 < vinrock> big money part of va or no money part of va
18:31 <+A-KO> no money part of VA is back country :P
18:31 < Hunterkll> asimon, if you REALLY want go get technical here's the datasheets
18:31 < Hunterkll> file:///C:/Users/Hunterkll/Downloads/computing_ds_4Gb_DDR3L(B-ver)based_RDIMMs(Rev.1.0).pdf
18:31 < asimon> Hunterkll: Thanks for the advice!
18:31 <+A-KO> big money part of VA typically votes blue af
18:31 <+A-KO> lol
18:31 < vinrock> true
18:31 < Hunterkll> errrr
18:31 < Hunterkll> asimon, https://www.skhynix.com/product/filedata/fileDownload.do?seq=3463
18:31 < Hunterkll> even
18:31 < Hunterkll> lol
18:31 < Hunterkll> that explains all the codes and shit
18:31 < vinrock> deep state VA or THE PEOPLE'S va
18:31 <+A-KO> Hunterkll: glad that wasn't porn you c/p'd
18:31 <+A-KO> lol
18:31 < Hunterkll> A-KO, it was actaully the right file too
18:32 <+A-KO> so Hunterkll are you back in MD at this point?
18:32 < Hunterkll> just on my machine instead of on hynix
18:32 < Hunterkll> yes
18:32 < Hunterkll> for two weeks
18:32 <+A-KO> lol
18:32 < Hunterkll> then just new jersey
18:32 < asimon> Wait where in md
18:32 <+A-KO> I should put pants on and head into work
18:32 < Hunterkll> i'll be buying my plane tickets for AX in a bit i think
18:32 <+A-KO> nice
18:32 < Hunterkll> maybe friday
18:32 <+A-KO> let me know, I could probably take off for AX
18:32 < Hunterkll> gotta figure out if i'm going to LV after or not
18:32 < Hunterkll> probably
18:32 < Hunterkll> i mean free laptop is free laptop
18:32 <+A-KO> lol
18:32 < vinrock> hunterkll bring me some crab cakes from box hill pizzeria its on your way to jersey
18:32 < corn266> Hunterkll: did you just try to upload a file from your personal computer?
18:32 < Hunterkll> no
18:32 <+A-KO> asimon: he lives in Hickville, MD
18:32 <+A-KO> RedneckTown
18:33 < Hunterkll> corn266, copied the URL out of browser without realizing it got downloaded
18:33 < Hunterkll> lol
18:33 < asimon> Frederick?
18:33 < Hunterkll> A-KO, so like most of maryland then
18:33 <+A-KO> other side of the state
18:33 < Hunterkll> LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
18:33 <+A-KO> lol
18:33 < Hunterkll> asimon, i mean i've porked my cousin before
18:33 < Hunterkll> soooo
18:33 < vinrock> giggity
18:33 < Hunterkll> lol
18:33 <+A-KO> let's put it this way, I've driven up his way and we've gone to the Christiana mall in DE
18:33 <+A-KO> because it was close
18:33 <+A-KO> lol
18:33 < asimon> Lol gotcha
18:33 < Hunterkll> then i showed a-ko where only white people go
18:33 < vinrock> oh both you guys are in md
18:33 < Hunterkll> (rising sun mcdonalds)
18:33 <@cryptic1> wtf have I returned to?
18:33 <+A-KO> I used to be
18:33 <+A-KO> I'm in CA now
18:34  * cryptic1 walks away
18:34 <+A-KO> I'm in sunny ass SoCal, except it's cloudy af right now
18:34 < vinrock> i work for the company that shuts down i95 at night
18:34 < Hunterkll> had to cover a shift there many years ago
18:34 <@JollyRgrs> ok, need some help thinking through this rdp credssp issue
18:34 < Hunterkll> the coworker i brought with me was a black manager
18:34 < Hunterkll> they had no clue what to think
18:34 <@JollyRgrs> if clietns are updated and servers are not... why doesn't it work?
18:34 <+A-KO> JollyRgrs: patch it, patch your clients? problem solved?
18:34 < vinrock> whys he gotta be black
18:34 < Hunterkll> except "O.O A REAL BLACK PERSON"
18:34 < asimon> Only just moved away from the md for the first time last year
18:34 <+A-KO> JollyRgrs: what do you mean?
18:34 <@JollyRgrs> do i need to change the registry key to "vulernable" on the client side?
18:34 <+A-KO> yes
18:34 < DomLS3> Hunterkll: what the fuck
18:34 < DomLS3> since when did we start porking our cousins
18:34 < Hunterkll> DomLS3, dude we have one of the countries oldest KKK chapters out here
18:35 < Hunterkll> oh
18:35 < Hunterkll> that
18:35 <@JollyRgrs> A-KO: sigh... thanks
18:35 < Hunterkll> uhhhh
18:35 < vinrock> 3rd cousins are ok
18:35 < Hunterkll> DomLS3, she's a ballet dancer and a librarian so
18:35 < vinrock> thats barely a cousin
18:35 < Hunterkll> kind of fuckered there
18:35 <+A-KO> JollyRgrs: the May update enforced the setting, March made it optional on
18:35 <+A-KO> JollyRgrs: basically how that played out
18:35 < chesshire> Game of Thrones?
18:35 < asimon> JollyRgrs: This is a pretty good explanation https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/askpfeplat/2018/05/07/credssp-rdp-and-raven/
18:35 < DomLS3> Hunterkll: uhh, fuck one of her ballet friends?
18:35 < Hunterkll> that neutralized the family bits i would hope
18:35 < Hunterkll> but that's not easy to get to at the family christmas party
18:35 <+A-KO> March Update: Exists, but Disabled. May Update: Exists, but Enabled.
18:35 < Hunterkll> o.O
18:35 < asimon> The chart about halfway down the page is all you really need to know
18:35 < DomLS3> how close a cousin are we talking?
18:36 < vinrock> you should have asked for a pair of her ballet slipers as a mmomento
18:36 < Hunterkll> uhhh
18:36 < Hunterkll> dad's sister?
18:36 < DomLS3> fuck
18:36 < vinrock> wait wat
18:36 < Hunterkll> dad's sister's daughter
18:36 < vinrock> oh man
18:36 < vinrock> 1st cousin
18:36 < Hunterkll> not dad's sister directly
18:36 < Hunterkll> lol
18:36 < vinrock> you're savage af
18:36 < steevo> son, you got yourself a problem
18:36 < SynMonger> cousins make dozens
18:36 < Hunterkll> my brother has confederate flags on the back of his jeep
18:36 < Hunterkll> it's okay
18:36 < Hunterkll> :D
18:36 < DomLS3> I feel a +m coming real soon
18:36 < vinrock> no the chat is starting to get good
18:36 < Hunterkll> lol
18:36 < vinrock> hunter, tell us more
18:36 <@JollyRgrs> A-KO: yeah, i just thought if it was the workstation going to the server... it was a server side setting that caused it... but i guess it is two-way
18:36 < DomLS3> that's generally when +m comes
18:36 < DomLS3> lol
18:36 < Hunterkll> alcohol was involved
18:37 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, indeed it's two way
18:37 <+A-KO> the chart that asimon linked is good
18:37 < Hunterkll> and right now i'm in between insider builds on two devices that break entirely
18:37 < DomLS3> so if she wasn't your cousin and it was your dad's sister, would you have still done it?
18:37 < Hunterkll> I can RDP to my 2012 R2 then RDP to my insider 10 desktop
18:37 < DomLS3> what is that your aunt?
18:37 <+A-KO> JollyRgrs: Fun fact. Our security guy at work ran into the problem because his client wasn't patched. I took a little jab at him over it :D
18:37 < Hunterkll> DomLS3, no way she's not nearly as attractive
18:37 < Hunterkll> yes
18:37 < asimon> JollyRgrs: Yeah its actually the client side policy to get you to connect
18:37 < DomLS3> Hunterkll: No I mean if she was
18:37 < DomLS3> if she wasn't your cousin and instead was your aunt
18:37 < DomLS3> same gir;l
18:37 < Hunterkll> if she was as attractive?
18:37 <+A-KO> JollyRgrs: it was low hanging fruit to give him shit, and his colleagues thought it was funny...
18:37 < Hunterkll> hard to say
18:38 < Hunterkll> hard to say
18:38 < DomLS3> as attractive or same girl
18:38 < DomLS3> either one
18:38 < steevo> Hunterkll, he's trying to find out where your line is
18:38 < DomLS3> woz
18:38 < DomLS3> wowz
18:38 <+A-KO> Hunterkll has no lines
18:38 <+A-KO> I've seen this first hand
18:38 <+A-KO> there is no line
18:38 <+A-KO> lol
18:38 < Hunterkll> hey
18:38 < asimon> Can we stop talking about hicksville and get back to work
18:38 < Hunterkll> you weren't there for the one time
18:38 < vinrock> yo post a pic
18:38 < Hunterkll> lol
18:38 < vinrock> we gotta see now
18:38 < Hunterkll> LOL
18:38 < Hunterkll> AHAHAHAHAHAHA
18:38 < DomLS3> Hunterkll: pics of the cousin
18:38 <+A-KO> Hunterkll: I was there for Katsucon--all I'm saying.
18:38 < DomLS3> I need to see this hoe
18:38 < Hunterkll> A-KO, pffft that's lite
18:38 < vinrock> pics or its a dude
18:38 < steevo> Hunterkll, you are rather obligated to post a pic at this point
18:38 <+A-KO> guys in other news
18:38 < vinrock> katsucon
18:38 <+A-KO> I somehow have a girlfriend now
18:38 < vinrock> that sounds delicious
18:38 <+A-KO> how the fuck did this happen? O.o
18:39 < DomLS3> A-KO: issa trap
18:39 < Hunterkll> A-KO, wait were you there for the incident with that dude's wife who got me with that other girl and it turned out fucking weird?
18:39 <+A-KO> Hunterkll: yes
18:39 <+A-KO> sort of?
18:39 <+A-KO> maybe?
18:39 < Hunterkll> i forget who started sucking who first
18:39 < DomLS3> wat
18:39 < Hunterkll> but at one point there was that porn girl?
18:39 < vinrock> fapfapfap
18:39 <+A-KO> I forget dude, I was drunk af. Remember, we had Coke + Everclear?
18:39 < Hunterkll> vinrock, i know how to party
18:39 <+A-KO> I mean come on
18:39 < corn266> Y'all a bunch of degenerates
18:39 < vinrock> damn str8
18:39 < Hunterkll> A-KO, man that was the katsucon llight weekend
18:39 < Hunterkll> yea
18:39 < Hunterkll> that wasn't the one i'm thinking of
18:40 <+A-KO> ah ok
18:40 < SynMonger> Y'all need Jesus
18:40 < Hunterkll> you shoulda been there the time i puked on this russian chick while she was getting boned
18:40 < Hunterkll> now that was hilarious
18:40 < giant_it_burrit> Hunterkll: you nasty
18:40 < giant_it_burrit> lol
18:40 <+A-KO> Everclear makes for some interesting times
18:40 < giant_it_burrit> also hi bby
18:40 <+A-KO> which--you can't buy in CA
18:40 < Hunterkll> lol
18:40 < vinrock> when i would see people fuckin in the clubs i would just kinda stand there and watch
18:40 < Hunterkll> yea that's weird
18:40 < DomLS3> CA is a communist state
18:40 < Hunterkll> A-KO, they outlawed 190 proof liquor here. so everclear is 189 now.
18:40 < vinrock> maybe holler at some other people to come check it out
18:41 <+A-KO> I should go into the office
18:41 <+A-KO> no breakfast for me yay
18:41 < Hunterkll> vinrock, lol i've done something similar in an anime convention rave....
18:41 < Hunterkll> .... then i started working security for those....
18:41 < Hunterkll> ....... now i KNOW how good the visibility is
18:41 < Hunterkll> :D
18:41 < vinrock> i was a 90s club kid in nyc
18:41 < vinrock> i seen a lot
18:41 < Hunterkll> hahahahaha i bet
18:41 < steevo> Hunterkll, so you're a weeb that bangs his cousin and is rarely sober?
18:42 < vinrock> hunter sounds fun to chill with
18:42 < Hunterkll> hilariously, i haven't watched any newer anime than shit from 2004
18:42 < vinrock> id wash my hand after shaking his tho
18:42 <@cryptic1> take it easy guys
18:42 < vinrock> eyyyy
18:42 < Hunterkll> lol cryptic1 comes back after the good parts
18:42 < Hunterkll> and we're on the boring parts now
18:42 <@cryptic1> no i saw some of it
18:42 <@cryptic1> i had to walk away
18:42 <@cryptic1> you missed it
18:42 < vinrock> yeah we actually managed to power through that one
18:43 < vinrock> good job everyone now back to work
18:43 < Hunterkll> see you at the family christmas party cryptic1  <3 <3 <3
18:43 <@cryptic1> haha hardly
18:43 < Hunterkll> oh right i forgot you're the one that likes to pee in the fridge
18:43 <+A-KO> new gf is a bit of an agoraphobe tho
18:43 < Hunterkll> or are you the one taht brings this shit? https://i.imgur.com/gzhuKpD.png
18:43 <+A-KO> YOU KNOW
18:43 <+A-KO> I LIKE HOW
18:44 <+A-KO> AT 9:43AM
18:44 < Hunterkll> A-KO, hopefully not nearly as bad as mine lo
18:44 <+A-KO> 4 OF MY COWORKERS ARE PLAYING OVERWATCH RIGHT NOW
18:44 <+A-KO> AT WORK
18:44 < Hunterkll> lol
18:44 < giant_it_burrit> pill cosby
18:44 < Hunterkll> lol
18:44 < giant_it_burrit> Hunterkll: they got rid of the patch link thing you butthole
18:44 < giant_it_burrit> now they are like solarflare
18:44 < Hunterkll> ?
18:45 < Hunterkll> cryptic1's preferred hard drive brand: https://i.imgur.com/Jfe9NUk.png
18:45 < JFDkthx> is it friday
18:45 < JFDkthx> mistiry:
18:45 <+A-KO> wtf is wrong with my stomach
18:45 <+A-KO> it's noisy af this morning
18:46 < JFDkthx> it sucks
18:46 < giant_it_burrit> Hunterkll: the heat data patchlink thing
18:46 < JFDkthx> bubble gut, bubble bubble
18:46 < JFDkthx> bubble bublle
18:46 < Hunterkll> giant_it_burrit, yea i know
18:46 < Hunterkll> i found out recently
18:46 < Hunterkll> :'(
18:46 < Hunterkll> they kilt it
18:46 < giant_it_burrit> reeeeeeeeeeeeeee
18:46 < Hunterkll> no more sccm hookup
18:46 < Hunterkll> loll
18:46 < dragonfleas> I wonder what everyone in here looks like
18:46 < JFDkthx> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSaYQc3z7us
18:47 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, most of us probably aren't fat, reasonably physically fit, sometimes break limbs while drunk at anime conventions, etc
18:47 < JFDkthx> dragonfleas: i just shaved my mustache, so bald white guy
18:47 < chesshire> A-KO: Wait, really? Where do I sign up?
18:47 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, i agree
18:47 < JFDkthx> well technically i also shave my head.
18:47 < JFDkthx> so not shinybald.
18:47 < Hunterkll> chesshire, Blizzard Entertainment, I think is the company name. ;)
18:47 < JFDkthx> unlike McDonaldsWiFi
18:47 < dragonfleas> https://i.imgur.com/Hd2DqQg.jpg
18:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> JFDkthx: meanie
18:47 < dragonfleas> ^me casually dressed
18:47 < Hunterkll> lel
18:47 < JFDkthx> baldie
18:47 < chesshire> Hunterkll: Well thats... logical.
18:48 < JFDkthx> dragonfleas: not clicking that. it's likely to be goatse
18:48 < Hunterkll> nah it's fine
18:48 < dragonfleas> JFDkthx, that's your decision, it's not goatse LMAO
18:48 < JFDkthx> Hunterkll: you like goatse
18:48 < Hunterkll> nope
18:48 < JFDkthx> dont lie
18:48 <+A-KO> *5* COWORKERS now playing OW
18:48 <+A-KO> 9:48AM
18:48 <+A-KO> lol
18:48 < dragonfleas> my selfie is inside of the goatse ass
18:48 < JFDkthx> so nothing changed?
18:48 < khelpw> Are we doing /r/roastme?
18:48 < abakedapplepie> A-KO where do you work lol
18:49 < giant_it_burrit> khelpw: we can't do any more damage than he did already
18:49 <+A-KO> blizzard? O.o
18:49 < Church-> dragonfleas: Slav squatting got boring for you I see?
18:49 < abakedapplepie> ohrly
18:49 < dragonfleas> Church-, everyone says that I look slav lmao
18:49 <+A-KO> yarly
18:49 < abakedapplepie> i have a friend that works there
18:49 <+A-KO> ORLY
18:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> just got an email, AP team decided to abandon theri ticketing system without consulting me lol
18:49 < dragonfleas> YARLY
18:49 < abakedapplepie> but apparently asking for a cheap OW key is asking too much
18:49 < abakedapplepie> :|
18:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> they want to work the invoices from a shared mailbox
18:49 <+A-KO> which team?
18:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> huehuehuhu
18:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> account payable
18:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> s
18:49 < dragonfleas> i quit slav squatting to become a sysadmin
18:49 < abakedapplepie> i think hes some sort of devops
18:49 < abakedapplepie> of sorts
18:49 < JFDkthx> dragonfleas: do you pluck your eyebrows
18:50 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, here's me this past weekend with some steelseries company reps
18:50 < Hunterkll> lol
18:50 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/0QlimhC.jpg
18:50 < Hunterkll> got a free backpack and sunglasses off them
18:50 < abakedapplepie> all i know is when shit hits the fan re: servers hes working on it
18:50 <+A-KO> abakedapplepie: I got you fam
18:50 < admiralspark> dragonfleas: are you the sysad with the bomb in his server room?
18:50 <@Code_Man65> A friend of mine loves overwatch, I've never played it
18:50 < dragonfleas> JFDkthx, i get my eyebrows waxed lol
18:50 < Hunterkll> ......
18:50 < Hunterkll> ...........
18:51 <+A-KO> abakedapplepie now has Overwatch
18:51 < DomLS3> pfsense
18:51 < Hunterkll> I LEGITIMATELY DRESS AS A GAY ROCKSTAR FROM A 1999 ANIME WITH PINK HAIR AND A FLAMBOYANT COAT SOMETIMES AND DON'T WAX ANYTHING
18:51 < dragonfleas> admiralspark, that was a bamboozle come on now get with the program
18:51 < Hunterkll> what the fuck
18:51 < steevo> Code_Man65, It's TF2 only with different characters
18:51 < Church-> You fuckers are weird lol.
18:51 <@Code_Man65> I didn't really enjoy TF2
18:51 < khelpw> To answer your question though. I look like every bassist in every death metal band that has an office job.
18:51 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, that's exactly how i expected you to look
18:51 < ebol4> TF2 was 1000x better than overwatch
18:51 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, wizard hat included? :D
18:52 < steevo> ebol4, yes
18:52 <+A-KO> Code_Man65: it's somewhat similar to TF2, so yeah. If you weren't super into TF2 then OW won't be your thing. But OW I feel is quite a bit more tactical than TF2 ever was.
18:52 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, yes
18:52 < abakedapplepie> !nominate A-KO for being a badass
18:52 < khelpw> Goatee, hair down past my ass. Wardrobe consists of button-down shirts and slacks, with band shirts for the weekend.
18:52 < Hunterkll> lol
18:52  * Church- is a fat nerd
18:52 < JFDkthx> khelpw: haha
18:52  * Church- hunts for picture
18:52 < Hunterkll> ya i'm definitely not fat
18:52 < Hunterkll> which is a surprise given how much i consome in liquid calories
18:52 <+A-KO> can confirm. I'm a fat ass, Hunterkll is not fat.
18:52 < Church-> Well, I could be skinnier.
18:52 <@Code_Man65> My FPS of choice back when I played them a lot was Tribes (and Tribes 2)
18:52 < JFDkthx> Hunterkll: sperm isnt that calorie dense
18:52 < dragonfleas> the way i look at work is entirely different boys
18:52 < khelpw> Oh yeah, I'm twiggy af. Couldn't be much skinnier without looking malnourished.
18:52 < dragonfleas> blob:https://imgur.com/025388d4-d1b0-446b-9a68-a0fd0f6417cb
18:52 < Hunterkll> that might push me into unhelathy territory
18:52 < Church-> Hunterkll: Yeah I'm taking bets when your liver is going to fail.
18:53 < dragonfleas> https://i.imgur.com/oZIvzXg.jpg
18:53 < Hunterkll> llol
18:53 < Hunterkll> hey now
18:53 < Hunterkll> i give myself sober weeks to recover
18:53 < Hunterkll> actually, i probably won't be getting wasted again for another 2 and a half weeks
18:53 < Hunterkll> shame
18:53 < Hunterkll> yea, need to see what dates my comp'd room is for but i'll be in atlantic city from june 8th to 10th for a convention
18:53 < Hunterkll> that's the next party
18:53 <+A-KO> I don't plan on getting wasted at AX
18:54 <+A-KO> I also odn't plan on getting wasted in Seattle this weekend
18:54 < Hunterkll> shit i don't think i can afford it
18:54 < Hunterkll> but things never go according to plan anyway
18:54 < Hunterkll> AX is already like a $1500 trip for me
18:54 <+A-KO> next wasted plan for me is blizzcon
18:54 < Hunterkll> that's just hotel and airfare
18:54 <@Code_Man65> A friend of mine works Anime Expo every year, flys out there.
18:54 < khelpw> AC sucks.
18:54 < Hunterkll> eh it's okay
18:54 < JFDkthx> no, AC blows
18:54 < vinrock> man
18:54 <+A-KO> I mean Hunterkll seriously a fucking lyft would be cheaper to my place every day LOL
18:54 < Hunterkll> plus i have a $100 food voucher for harrah's
18:54 <+A-KO> ffs
18:54 < vinrock> you guys got me wanting a beer for lunch
18:54 < Hunterkll> A-KO, nah, it wouldn't be
18:55 < Hunterkll> $200 a night vs how much each way?
18:55 < Hunterkll> plus convinence, all hours access, etc
18:55 <@JollyRgrs> Code_Man65: you gonna get on and play fork knife tonight?
18:55 <@Code_Man65> I'm playing more Dad of War tonight
18:56 < dragonfleas> Code_Man65, how is that game? besides the obvious spamming of BOI
18:57 <@Code_Man65> Thus far?  Damn good.
18:57 < Hunterkll> A-KO, room is july 4th to 8th reserved, it looks like, total cost for 4 nights being $854.37
18:57 < Hunterkll> so yea
18:57 < Hunterkll> it's still good
18:57 < Hunterkll> lol
18:57 <@Code_Man65> Though I'm still adjusting to the fact that Kratos cannot jump in it
18:57 < Hunterkll> airfare makes up the rest of that $1500 estimate
18:57 < Hunterkll> might use rewards on a few segments
18:58 < Hunterkll> awww yiss plat sec'd thru 2019 and gold thru 2020
18:58 < Hunterkll> noiiuce
18:58 < grumplestiltzkin> [Enter]
18:59 < Hunterkll> cool, 7th thru 11th
18:59 < Hunterkll> then 2 weeks later back to nevada
19:00 < Aleks3Y> Hey guys, anyone have access to RH articles? Looking for a copy of https://access.redhat.com/solutions/3134931
19:00 < Hunterkll> A-KO, end of next month i'll only be a 4.5 hour drive away from you
19:00 < Hunterkll> lol
19:00 < Hunterkll> but it's all weekeday it looks like
19:00 <+A-KO> Vegas? end of June?
19:00 < Hunterkll> fuckin
19:00 < Hunterkll> tuesday to saturday
19:00 < JFDkthx> fuck, as soon as i turn music on i get a meeting popup
19:00 <+A-KO> oh
19:00 < Hunterkll> and leave at 8:30AM PST saturday
19:00 <+A-KO> lol
19:00 < Hunterkll> that's just shitty
19:00 <+A-KO> hahaha
19:00 < Hunterkll> oh well
19:00 <+A-KO> ok I'm out to head to work
19:00 <+A-KO> later
19:01 < Hunterkll> july it is
19:01 < Hunterkll> llol
19:05 < dragonfleas> jesus christ
19:05 < dragonfleas> has anyone been on /r/legbeard
19:05 < chesshire> no...
19:05 < vinrock> that doesnt sound appetizing
19:05 < dragonfleas> sorry /r/justlegbeardthings/
19:06 < dragonfleas> it's women neckbeards
19:06 <@Code_Man65> I do Aleks3Y
19:06 < vinrock> do not want
19:06 < felda> ravioli is honestly 100 times better than all of you
19:06 < Aleks3Y> Code_Man65: would really appreciate the copy of that article.
19:06 < ebol4> you're not wrong
19:06 <@Code_Man65> How about I just give you the solution from it?
19:07 <@Code_Man65> 1.  Download libnspr4.so_.tar.bz2 2. # tar xvf libnspr4.so_.tar.bz2 3. # LD_PRELOAD=./libnspr4.so yum update nspr
19:08 < Aleks3Y> Code_Man65: yeah, that's what I did... So there is something else then. Do they have a link? or it's closed link?
19:08 < gnupluslinux> mfw A-KO heads to work at 10
19:08 <@Code_Man65> https://access.redhat.com/node/3134931/40/0 for the bz2
19:09 < derpingit> whadaaaap
19:09 < derpingit> any u guys using win10-1803 on production ?
19:09 < cantibot> ...I just got slapped with a rubber hose for using ltsb on production
19:10 < Church-> Good job.
19:10 <@Code_Man65> Because LTSB isn't meant for production use cantibot
19:10 < cantibot> I know I know
19:10 <@Code_Man65> That's for embedded devices, atms, appliances, not normal desktop
19:10 < cantibot> but why not then make an enterprise version without cortana and the windows store and telemetrics?
19:11 < cantibot> Why should I have to "SCCM" it out of my builds
19:11 <@Code_Man65> Umm...you can (in Windows 10 Ent) disable all of those
19:11 < cantibot> I know I "can" but if I just use LTSB it's already done I don't have to fuck with my images or my syspreps
19:11 < cantibot> I am probably just being lazy and dumb...I get that
19:11 <@Code_Man65> We just set it to basic and DGAF
19:12 < Hunterkll> cantibot, uhhmmm i turn that shit off without screwing with the base WIM or sysprepping anything
19:12 <@Code_Man65> GPO can do that in Win 10 Ent
19:12 <@Code_Man65> It's pro where you can't
19:12 < Hunterkll> literally i just use the base WIM (deploy and capture only to normalize it)
19:12 < Hunterkll> in my SCCM TS
19:12 < Hunterkll> it's otherwise entirelly unmodified
19:12 < Hunterkll> I damn near got someone fired for trying to mod the base WIM
19:12 < Hunterkll> :o
19:12 < cantibot> lol really?
19:12 <@Code_Man65> Because its a terrible idea to do so Hunterkll
19:13 < Hunterkll> ^
19:13 <@Code_Man65> Leave the wim the fuck alone
19:13 < Hunterkll> cantibot, image started failing for a while
19:13 < Hunterkll> couldn't find out why
19:13 < Hunterkll> did a blank deploy with no other TS steps
19:13 < Hunterkll> why is there anything except office pre-loaded in this wim
19:13 < Hunterkll> who made this change
19:13 < Hunterkll> you will die
19:13 < cantibot> youch!
19:13 < Hunterkll> and uh
19:13 < Hunterkll> well
19:13 < Hunterkll> we're F500 + sized
19:13 < Hunterkll> so
19:13 < Hunterkll> actuallly, F100 now
19:13 < Hunterkll> but still
19:15 < derpingit> lol
19:16 < Hunterkll> Code_Man65, i'll deply+cap it first, that removes some of the weird drive letter issues i've had in the past
19:16 < Hunterkll> i'll also slip office into it
19:16 < Hunterkll> but that's about it
19:16 < Hunterkll> and only because of the size of office and the fact that it's relativelly version stable
19:16 < felda> Code_Man65 my mother told me not using DNS was a terrible idea yet here I am
19:16 <@Code_Man65> I don't even do that since office during a TS takes all of 5-7 minutes to install
19:16 < Hunterkll> office is somewhat static enough
19:16 < Hunterkll> lol ulcky you
19:16 < Hunterkll> Code_Man65, we'll be imaging liek 30-40 machines off a gig port at one time
19:16 < Hunterkll> it's special
19:16 <@Code_Man65> I'm sorry, I Can't hear any thing
19:17 < Hunterkll> Code_Man65, i think someone was trying to tell you about APK's hosts file
19:17 < felda> I can't hear you over being a young successful entrepreneur selling DNS snakeoil
19:17 <@Code_Man65> Geesh, that's a lot of machines for a single 1GbE link
19:17 < Hunterkll> Code_Man65, site DP goes in a network closet somewhere, and imaging happens in a room
19:17 < Hunterkll> no idea how our vendor is handling it
19:17 < Hunterkll> but the R730xd's I spec'd for DPs only have gigE ports
19:19 <@JollyRgrs> i only installed office/SEP and .net framework... just b/c on win7 the updates took forever... also office 2013 install took forever
19:19 <@Code_Man65> Ugh, SEP
19:19 <@JollyRgrs> yeah :(
19:19 < Hunterkll> SEP
19:19 <@JollyRgrs> but that was job n-1
19:19 < grumplestiltzkin> I blame felda.   I went through a few things on that gamersriseup  and now I have seen /r/tendies   -   is most of reddit intended to be ironic?
19:19 < Hunterkll> I might lose my SCEP for SEP
19:19 < Hunterkll> :'(
19:19 <@JollyRgrs> now i'm on McAfee :(
19:19 < Hunterkll> <Acquiring company> uses SEP
19:19 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: oh no!
19:20 <@Code_Man65> Hunterkll:  Oh fuck that noise
19:20 < Hunterkll> yea welll
19:20 <@Code_Man65> SEP is way too damned heavy
19:20 < Hunterkll> last i saw it was "TBD" but world on the street
19:20 < Hunterkll> you know how it is
19:20 < felda> grumplestiltzkin a lot of the meme subreddits are entirely ironic
19:20 <@Code_Man65> We are probably going to be adding ATP to our SCEP pretty soon
19:20 < Hunterkll> SCOM and some other company are going to go head to head too
19:20 < Hunterkll> i'm going to put all my effort behind keeping SCOM
19:20 < Hunterkll> not whatever the other thing is
19:20 < Hunterkll> OpsLogix or something i think?
19:20 <@JollyRgrs> Code_Man65: i'm trying to drive to use SCEP and ATP
19:20 < felda> grumplestiltzkin if you want something that is a nice mix of sincerity and irony visit /r/neoliberal or /r/chapotraphouse
19:20  * JollyRgrs crosses fingers
19:21 < Hunterkll> i'lll let SCEP go in order to keep SCOM
19:21 <@JollyRgrs> since i'm not in the "security tower" at all....
19:21 <@Code_Man65> SCOM (without SquaredUp) is a shit show IMO
19:21 < Hunterkll> SCOM is fucking amazing
19:21 < Hunterkll> you shut your whore mouth
19:21 < grumplestiltzkin> wait .. .hwat was that?
19:21 <@Code_Man65> It's great at collecting data, but it is a hot fucking mess at actually displaying it in a useful manner
19:21 < Hunterkll> you gotta make your shit yourself
19:21 < Hunterkll> llol
19:21 < grumplestiltzkin> trolldetector started going off
19:22 <@Code_Man65> Yeah, and they purposefully make its visualization capabilities shit
19:22 <@Code_Man65> They even said at Ignite last year they are aren't going to improve them
19:22 <@Code_Man65> https://robbeekmans.net/monitoring/squared-up-the-bandage-to-make-scom-workable/
19:23 < Hunterkll> ScienceLogic
19:23 < Hunterkll> that's what's in the contention compared to scom
19:23 < Hunterkll> Code_Man65, I made my own dashboard for the command center with the proper views that are needed
19:23 < Hunterkll> for our use case
19:23 < Hunterkll> i mean fuck that was easy, we were just replacing spllunk for up/down monitoring.....
19:23 < Hunterkll> i'm the one really pushing the advanced SCOM features and MPs
19:23 < Hunterkll> fixed so much shit so far we had no idea about
19:24 < Hunterkll> i remember one place i deployed SCOM and we immediately found misconfigured circular DNS forwarders
19:24 < Hunterkll> >_>
19:24 <@Code_Man65> SquaredUp (and I've gotten to mess with it) honestly does make SCOM 100x better
19:24 < Hunterkll> see, i'm not sitting in there though, i'm sllogging through writing my own shit and such
19:24 < Hunterkll> and i use far llittle historicall info though
19:24 < Hunterkll> haven't gotten to a place where i can start doing proactive shit yet
19:24 < Hunterkll> :p
19:25 <@Code_Man65> Yeah, when you need to get into the complex shit SCOM's native display stuff really shows how terrible it is
19:25 < Hunterkll> to be honest, 1801's html5 dashboard fixes a few shit
19:25 <@Code_Man65> A simple up/down dashboard?  Yeah, that shits cake.
19:25 < Hunterkll> I just use SSRS for a bunch of that stuff
19:25 < Hunterkll> i'm comfy in SCOM SQL llland
19:25 < Hunterkll> but i mean, squared up is just a 'prettier' dashboard for what's already getting slowly better anyway
19:26 <@Code_Man65> But if you want BlueStripe style connection mapping among other things (without have to shell out for OMS) get SquaredUp
19:26 <@Code_Man65> No it isn't, they have pretty much said all the new features are going in OMS and not on-prem
19:26 <@Code_Man65> What you see with SCOM is how it is going to stay.
19:26 < Hunterkll> i'm aware of what's been said
19:26 < Hunterkll> i'm also aware of how it's improved since 2012 R2
19:26 < Hunterkll> and i'm also aware of the feature promises made by our TAM that actually happened
19:26 < Hunterkll> lol
19:27 <@Code_Man65> At any rate, I will tell anyone who asks that SCOM is great at collecting data
19:27 <@Code_Man65> I just think it's ability to actually display that data is a total shitshow
19:27 < Hunterkll> security is going to, after this weekend, be ingesting the SCOM data into arcsight
19:27 < Hunterkll> oh sure, out of box yea, it takes some work
19:27 < Hunterkll> i just know how to do that work
19:27 < Hunterkll> llol
19:29 <@Code_Man65> We will just have to agree to disagree on the data visualization aspects of SCOM
19:30 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: well, sure, even powershell can offer great displays if you make use if the GUI stuff... but not everyone knows how
19:30 <@JollyRgrs> most everyone doesn't know how
19:31 <@Code_Man65> That's why shit like this exists:  https://ironmansoftware.com/universal-dashboard
19:31 <@JollyRgrs> I
19:31 <@JollyRgrs> AM
19:31 <@JollyRgrs> IRON
19:31 <@JollyRgrs> MAN
19:31 <@JollyRgrs> dunnnn dunnnnn duh nuh nuh
19:31 <@JollyRgrs> nuhnuhnuhnuhnuhnuhnuhnuhnuh
19:31 < Hunterkll> yea well
19:31 < Hunterkll> that's just like
19:31 < dragonfleas> I fucking love WDS
19:31 < Hunterkll> your opinion man
19:31 < rhqq> has he lost his mind
19:32 < dragonfleas> i just finished imaging 6 computers in 3 hours
19:32 < Hunterkll> https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/8lahpo/epa_bars_ap_cnn_from_summit_on_contaminants/
19:32 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: wait until you get to use SCCM
19:32 < Hunterkll> loll what
19:32 < dragonfleas> i wish we had the server resources available for SCCM
19:32 < dragonfleas> JollyRgrs, we had SCCM at the last ORG i worked for
19:32 <@Code_Man65> Or at least MDT
19:32 < dragonfleas> I miss SCCM
19:32 < dragonfleas> the reporting functionality was amazing
19:32 < giant_it_burrit> i am thinking i will go for sccm
19:32 < giant_it_burrit> it doesnt require that much in a smaller org
19:32 < dragonfleas> Code_Man65, i'm using MDT currently
19:33 <@Code_Man65> Good
19:33 <@JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: what od you mean it doesn't require that much in a smaller org?
19:33 < DomLS3> holy fuck. If none of you have listened to the new Godsmack album, listen to it
19:33 <@JollyRgrs> other than cost, it doesn't require much in any org
19:33 < dragonfleas> that's how i built my image, deployed clean OS, built golden, tested, added drivers (the worst part) and then deployed
19:33 < DomLS3> best shit I've heard in a long time
19:33 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: drivers are no big... if you use Dell
19:33 < Hunterkll> ^
19:33 < dragonfleas> JollyRgrs, not if you have home office computers from dell
19:33 <@JollyRgrs> if you use Lenovo, may God have mercy on your soul
19:33 < Hunterkll> We only have 2 MPs
19:33 < dragonfleas> lol, they don't have cab files
19:33 < Hunterkll> for 6000 workstations
19:33 < Hunterkll> lol
19:33 <@Code_Man65> Yeah, Dell is the gold standard for SCCM/MDT driver packs
19:33 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: well, those don't count as Dell
19:34 < dragonfleas> I had to extract the cab files from the exe's
19:34 < dragonfleas> i know the laptops i'm about to image i'm going to have to manually install some drivers
19:35 < giant_it_burrit> JollyRgrs: compute resources. i dont a crap ton of boxes to run it. and i have all dells
19:36 < Hunterkll>  ehhhh
19:36 < Hunterkll> giant_it_burrit, an old desktop with 8GB ram would work
19:36 < Hunterkll> lol
19:36 < Hunterkll> and a duall or quad cpu
19:36 < cantibot> Do most of you listen to music while you work?
19:36 < Hunterkll> if you have like 300 cllients or less
19:36 < Hunterkll> cantibot, no i'm playing pubg on the other monitor :p
19:36 < giant_it_burrit> Hunterkll: ill have to steal you next time we visit
19:37 < abakedapplepie> you must be shit at pubg then
19:37 < cantibot> I used to run CS or UT but then all these school shootings happen and baw it's not cool to play FPS's in school anymore :p
19:37 < abakedapplepie> if youre in here all day
19:37 < Hunterkll> giant_it_burrit, June 7th through 11th i'll be in AC
19:37 < Hunterkll> AnimeNEXT convention - i'm staying at caesars
19:37 < Hunterkll> was the closest i could get to the convention without having to pay
19:37 < Hunterkll> lol
19:38 < cantibot> well that's lame
19:39 < cantibot> so the  Unified Write Filter  is only in windows 10 LTSB "IoT" edition
19:39 < cantibot> not just the regular LTSB
19:39 < Hunterkll> it's in Enterprise and Education
19:39 < Hunterkll> maybe UWF is newer than 1607
19:40 < giant_it_burrit> Hunterkll: as long as valid windows licenses are on everything, are there additional costs?
19:40 < Hunterkll> just the management lilcense costs
19:40 < Hunterkll> that's it
19:40 < giant_it_burrit> how bad is that?
19:41 < dragonfleas> TIL Wolverine heals by opening a portal on his body to a parallel universe called the meat dimension
19:41 < giant_it_burrit> tl:dr wolverine "FILL ME WITH MEAT"
19:41 < netritious> Hi! Long time lurker of the sub reddit. Thought I would check out the channel too.
19:42 < Hunterkll> giant_it_burrit, $61/workstation .... $1500+ for servers
19:42 < Hunterkll> 2 server OSEs for like $1500 and unlimited for like $3000
19:42 < Hunterkll> think it's per core on servers now too
19:42 < Hunterkll> but not desktops
19:42 < cantibot> netritious welcome
19:42 < ravioli> hi netritious.
19:42 < cantibot> you are going to like it in here, everyone is on some other shit all the time lol
19:43 < giant_it_burrit> Hunterkll: what does that get me?
19:43 < cantibot> plus I get told why not to use LTSB which is cool
19:43 < vinrock> netritious:  this channel is like the sub
19:43 < vinrock> but IN HIGH DEF
19:43 < cantibot> LMFAO
19:43 < netritious> noice
19:43 < Hunterkll> giant_it_burrit, well, for SCCM, just SCCM for workstations, but those licensing costs are for alll of system center for servers
19:43 < Hunterkll> so you get SCOM etc too
19:43 < cantibot> 4K UHD SITE RIP FREELEECH PACK
19:43 < scwizard> the devs can't go to lunch yet because they're firefighting :(
19:43 < Hunterkll> actually that $61/workstaiton might be the full suite
19:43 < Hunterkll> don't remember
19:43 < scwizard> poor souls. It's my first time being at a job where i'm not the designated firefighter
19:46 < cantibot> are you usually good at putting them out
19:46 < Hunterkll> no, that's why he doesn't have that job anymore
19:46 < Hunterkll> :)
19:46 < cantibot> I try to leave 1 or 2 burning, gets cold in here with the AC otherwise
19:46 < cantibot> XD
19:46 < scwizard> cantibot: i'd like to imagine so?
19:46 < scwizard> it's so hard to quantify
19:46 < cantibot> true, true.
19:47 < scwizard> honestly though
19:47 < scwizard> imo that means they're good devs, that they take responsibility
19:47 < scwizard> "it worked on local so it's not my problem" is really lazy
19:48 < cantibot> devs and accountability aren't two things I normally associate lol
19:48 < scwizard> i mean you should still try and get the environments in alignment but
19:48 < scwizard> well these are good devs
19:48 < cantibot> that makes a huge difference
19:48 < scwizard> one of them is actually the cto it's a 12 man company
19:48 < cantibot> Oh cool!
19:48 < cantibot> I love smaller shops :)
19:49 < cantibot> A lot better communication obv
19:49 < scwizard> he has a lot of experience, but if the super experienced dev is the one interviewing people, no way is he going to hire someone that's totally clueless
19:49 < giant_it_burrit> Hunterkll: are you going to spend the 4 days straight in ac?
19:50 < giant_it_burrit> is the con that big?
19:51 < Hunterkll> get there thursday night
19:51 < Hunterkll> con fri-sat-sun
19:51 < Hunterkll> leave sunday afternoon
19:52 < aName> So all that agonizing about calling in on a monday, would they believe I was sick... come in this morning and the entire department is sick
19:52 < aName> ok then
19:53 < dragonfleas> holy fuck lmao
19:53 < dragonfleas> i pressed the random button on reddit
19:53 < dragonfleas> ended up on /r/asktrp
19:53 < Casteil> noice, my city looks like it's getting an Amazon DC
19:53 < giant_it_burrit> which is?
19:53 < aName> TRP?
19:53 < dragonfleas> are these the same alt-right neckbeards?
19:53 < dragonfleas> "the red pill"
19:53 < Casteil> same day deliveries? yes please
19:53 < aName> oh
19:54 < dragonfleas> this board has to be a joke
19:54 < aName> dragonfleas: Poe's law. =/
19:54 < dragonfleas> they call wooing a girl "gaming her" like it's a fucking hunt
19:54 < dragonfleas> this is disgusting
19:54 <@JollyRgrs> so i brought a yogurt from home to have as a late morning snack
19:54 <@JollyRgrs> guess who never took it out of his backpack?
19:55 < ebol4> do you normally take food out of your backpack before eating it
19:55 < cantibot> yuckie!
19:55 <@Code_Man65> Nah, he eats the backpack with it, gets more fiber that way
19:55 < cantibot> mmh jansport flavor!
19:55 < ebol4> JollyRgrs needs all the help he can get staying regular
19:56 < ebol4> got that activia
19:56 < dragonfleas> "If your LTR moves away either temporarily or permanently, its not worth keeping the relationship together anyway. Women have short attention spans. The moment she meets Chad in her new city, she will forget about you in a heartbeat. No matter what she says and how strongly she vows to be faithful when she moves away."
19:56 < dragonfleas> i've found it boys, the REAL sexism of the internet
19:56 < giant_it_burrit> what the fuck
19:56 < dragonfleas> or it's good satire
19:56 < giant_it_burrit> people are fucking ridic
19:56 < giant_it_burrit> these are the incels at this pont
19:57 < ravioli> dae pci compliance
19:57 < AnimalFarmPig> not me, ravioli
19:58 < AnimalFarmPig> pls send credit card #, I keep it very secure, put it in a hidden folder
19:58 <@JollyRgrs> ebol4: no, i just unzip all the way and shove my head in and gobble down /nocontext
20:03 < hxcsp> JollyRgrs: i misread shove as shave
20:03 < hxcsp> almost spit out my food
20:06 < corn266> I think I'll use 1nt0x1C8dW@nK3r as a password one day...
20:06 < Dish> that one took me a minute to read
20:07 < AnimalFarmPig> Most people use passwords. Some people use passphrases. Bruce Schneier uses an epic passpoem, detailing the life and works of seven mythical Norse heroes.
20:09 < pupp3r> hello friendos
20:10 < giant_it_burrit> Hunterkll: got a prefered reseller
20:10 < giant_it_burrit> for sccm license
20:10 < giant_it_burrit> aka as someone who knows costs
20:11 < admiralspark> AnimalFarmPig: xkcd 936 to the extreme
20:11 < pupp3r> ah yes, correct horse battery staple
20:12 < pupp3r> i wonder if that password has made it onto any dictionary lists by now
20:13 < Hunterkll> giant_it_burrit, knows costs? Check Microsoft for costs...
20:14 < Hunterkll> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/cloud-platform/system-center-pricing
20:14 < scwizard> "Note: To prevent a race condition during service deletion, make sure to set depends_on to the related aws_iam_role_policy; otherwise, the policy may be destroyed too soon and the ECS service will then get stuck in the DRAINING state." wat
20:14 < scwizard> :|
20:14 < Hunterkll> and
20:14 < Hunterkll> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/cloud-platform/system-center-configuration-manager-licensing
20:15 < admiralspark> scwizard: have you not been listening?
20:15 < admiralspark> scwizard: that's how you drain the swamp
20:15 < scwizard> ayy lmao
20:15 < admiralspark> ;)
20:15 < asimon> very good cyber
20:16 < cantibot> hey bby
20:16 < giant_it_burrit> Hunterkll: how is scep?
20:16 < cantibot> wanna cyber?
20:16 < Hunterkll> fine?
20:16 < cantibot> 25/m/mn
20:16 < cantibot> asl?
20:17 < admiralspark> minnahsooter??
20:17 < cantibot> YAAS!
20:17 < admiralspark> oh
20:17 < admiralspark> hahaha
20:17 < giant_it_burrit> im trying to determine what level of licesnse i want
20:18 < pupp3r> i'd say level 6... maybe 7
20:19 < cantibot> lol
20:19 < cantibot> thats arbitrary as fuck
20:19 < cantibot> I LIKE IT!
20:19 < cantibot> I'd throw some D's on that bitch! Lemmie tell you what!
20:21 < pupp3r> wow this channel is way more active than i thought it would be
20:22 < rhqq> pupp3r: yeah
20:22 < pupp3r> most subreddit IRCs are super dead
20:22 < rhqq> that was my first thought too
20:22 <@Code_Man65> It's because we are awesome pupp3r
20:22 < rhqq> also lack of sjws and political correctness too
20:23 < asimon> s/subreddit IRCs/IRCs
20:23 < int0x1C8> heil, and all that
20:23 < admiralspark> o/
20:23 < rhqq> o/
20:23 < pupp3r> o/
20:23 < rhqq> lulz
20:23 < admiralspark> pupp3r: we're cool like that
20:23 < AnimalFarmPig> admiralspark: young security analyst guy gave a lunch & learn presentation today. He told people to use password manager. I asked him about choosing passwords, but he did a bad job explaining hashes, so it didn't really make sense :/
20:23 < admiralspark> this and sometimes ##networking are pretty good
20:24 < admiralspark> AnimalFarmPig: awww, that's too bad. When I give my presentations I use the comic directly
20:24 < admiralspark> I also have started expounding on the glory that is all password managers as well
20:24 < AnimalFarmPig> I was hoping to just hear him say, "Don't make it too short. Don't use a word that's in a dictionary." That's all I really wanted to hear.
20:24 < admiralspark> yeah. Did he get into technical details then?
20:25 <@Code_Man65> AnimalFarmPig:  Even the dictionary thing is not recommended anymore
20:25 < rhqq> AnimalFarmPig: that's wrong
20:25 <@Code_Man65> https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2016/08/18/nists-new-password-rules-what-you-need-to-know/
20:25 < AnimalFarmPig> not really, he talked about hashes and how websites should salt them, but he didn't explain it well
20:25 < pupp3r> What about "correct horse battery staple"?
20:25 < rhqq> pupp3r: yeah
20:25 < rhqq> xkcd nailed it
20:25 < admiralspark> We were able to adopt NIST's new password rules thankfully
20:25 < pupp3r> that's got dict words in it
20:25 < AnimalFarmPig> Code_Man65: I don't do the dictionary thing
20:25 < SynMonger> no, even xkcd is out of date now
20:25 < ebol4> you should not know your passwords
20:25 <@Code_Man65> I agree ebol4
20:26 < rhqq> lol
20:26 < asimon> "the government is here to help."
20:26 < asimon> I bet it is
20:26 <@Code_Man65> I use LastPass personally
20:26 < grumplestiltzkin> passwordcard.org is bestwordcard
20:26 < rhqq> i remember all the passwords :P
20:26 < rhqq> and i use no password manager
20:26 < ebol4> lastpass here as well
20:26 < pupp3r> fair enough. i use KeePassX myself
20:26 < int0x1C8> for hash functions, I just tell people to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4b8ktEV4Bg&t=29s
20:27 < asimon> Keepass works fine for me
20:27 < pupp3r> lastpass and 1password are making it really easy for the average joe to have decent opsec
20:27 < asimon> though it can get annoying sometimes on different devices
20:27 < AnimalFarmPig> I have a few standard passwords that use letters, numbers, symbols and then I use a salt based on easy to remember rules about where I'm using the password
20:27 < grumplestiltzkin> your password should contain at least 3 uppercase and 3 lowercase emojis
20:27 < asimon> What about uppercase numbers?
20:27 < pupp3r> hmmm
20:27 < pupp3r> i like that idea
20:27 < AnimalFarmPig> I like to work in backspaces into my password
20:28 < rhqq> noobz, my password is all ****************
20:28 < AnimalFarmPig> wow, we have the same password!
20:28 < grumplestiltzkin> I like this   "“Your password must contain one lowercase letter, one uppercase letter, one number, four symbols but not &%#@_, and the surname of at least one astronaut.” "
20:29 < DomLS3> And must include the blood of a virgin
20:29 < pupp3r> nobody every expects it to be hunter2, so that's what i use
20:29 < rhqq> these requirements make me puke
20:29 < AnimalFarmPig> grumplestiltzkin: "and be exactly 8 characters"
20:29 < rhqq> and pretty much choose different serivce
20:29 < rhqq> it is up to ME what password do i like
20:29 < pupp3r> "no spaces" is one that gets me worried about the site's security practices
20:29 < AnimalFarmPig> the upper character limits are what really bother me, because you know that if they have such a limit they're doing something wrong
20:29 < rhqq> yeah
20:30 < rhqq> all chars should be allowed, no emojis though :P
20:30 < JFDkthx> fucking we are about to enforce 20 chars no two characters of the same class repeated.
20:30 < AnimalFarmPig> the ascii character set ought to be enough for anybody
20:30 < JFDkthx> so like AB12!#ab@#
20:30 < JFDkthx> etc
20:30 < rhqq> yeah
20:30 < AnimalFarmPig> wat....
20:30 < rhqq> this is annoying as fuck
20:30 < JFDkthx> yeah
20:30 < JFDkthx> its some retarded bullshit
20:31 < JFDkthx> that makes no fucking sense
20:31 < JFDkthx> and im fighting it tooth and nail right now
20:31 < grumplestiltzkin> JFDkthx: the way that's worded, it sounds like 4 consecutive lowercase would be disallowed
20:31 < JFDkthx> it is
20:31 < grumplestiltzkin> thats gaytarded
20:31 < JFDkthx> it is.
20:31 < pupp3r> the more annoying the requirements, the more sticky notes on monitors you're gonna have lol
20:31 < JFDkthx> i have no idea who thinks this is a good fucking idea
20:31 < asimon> JFDkthx: Apparently your company is trying to force everyone onto a password manager
20:31 < rhqq> they also have like
20:31 < JFDkthx> fire alarm
20:31 < JFDkthx> gg
20:31 < grumplestiltzkin> like, that needs to get vetod post-haste
20:31 < asimon> glhf
20:31 < rhqq> neighbor keyboard characters
20:31 < rhqq> ;p
20:32 < rhqq> i seen that twice so far
20:32 < rhqq> so qwe is a no-go
20:32 < AnimalFarmPig> so, if my password were-- "M1911A1-11.23x23-#reddit-sysadmin", it would be rejected under your rules, JFDkthx?
20:32 < rhqq> yeah
20:32 < rhqq> also repeated characters xD
20:32 < AnimalFarmPig> wtf is wrong with these people
20:34 < admiralspark> question
20:34 < admiralspark> RSyslog, I'm using it to export syslog configs
20:34 < admiralspark> shouldn't *.* grab ALL logs?
20:35 < admiralspark> all I'm getting right now is like...messages. And auditd logs
20:35 < admiralspark> I want NGNINX
20:35 < admiralspark> NGINX*
20:36 < Gigadoc2> admiralspark: are you sure that nginx even logs to syslog? Because AFAIK only the error log can be routed to syslog, access logs are always written directly by nginx.
20:36 < admiralspark> ohhhhhhhhhh
20:36 < AnimalFarmPig> ^ that's how I've always seen nginx configured by default as well
20:36 < admiralspark> nevermind, that's what it is
20:36 < admiralspark> I need to have nginx spit them to syslog as well, was missing the middle step
20:36 < admiralspark> thanks...
20:36 < rhqq> yes
20:36 < AnimalFarmPig> if you're running it under systemd, you could configure it to log to standard out, and then it will end up in the syslog
20:36 < rhqq> ew systemd :P
20:37 < admiralspark> hmmm. It has specific syslogs right now locally which I don't want to upset
20:37 < Gigadoc2> AnimalFarmPig: is that a thing for access logs? Because I'd like to use that :D
20:37 < admiralspark> like /var/log/nginx/appname_error.log and appname_access.log
20:37 < AnimalFarmPig> Gigadoc2: I haven't digged into the nginx logging config before, but I'm sure it's possible
20:38 < AnimalFarmPig> Gigadoc2: default behavior for systemd units is to pipe standard out to the syslog (this is configurable on a unit basis)
20:38 < Gigadoc2> stackoverflow suggests "access_log /dev/stdout;" apparently. Well, if it works :D
20:38 < admiralspark> hmm. Issue is I need these logs to stay local as well
20:39 < admiralspark> it only seems to take one export location?
20:39 < ebol4> fellas i made a new joke
20:39 < ebol4> what's a frog's favorite website
20:39 < ebol4> *frog voice* reddit
20:40 < admiralspark> ..........
20:40 < admiralspark> 3/5
20:40 < admiralspark> ;)
20:40 < Gigadoc2> 4/5 with rice?
20:40 < abakedapplepie> 5/7 with rice
20:40 < rhqq> 9/11
20:40 < abakedapplepie> you need to fuck with multiple memes
20:41 < AnimalFarmPig> 1/7, Brazil
20:41 < admiralspark> Gigadoc2: if you're using rsyslog, this might help https://serverfault.com/questions/396136/how-to-forward-specific-log-file-outside-of-var-log-with-rsyslog-to-remote-serv
20:41 < Gigadoc2> AnimalFarmPig, admiralspark: nginx officially supports logging to syslog, even for access_log: http://nginx.org/en/docs/syslog.html
20:42 < admiralspark> yeah, but I have one rsyslog config I'm pushing with Ansible that I want to work "everywhere"
20:42 < admiralspark> hmm
20:42 < admiralspark> trying to use the cattle-not-pets mentality with this, instead of manually modifying the nginx configs per-server
20:42 < Gigadoc2> admiralspark: Oh, Im a filthy systemd user and am already using pure journal :D
20:43 < admiralspark> oh, journald works with syslog exports just fine for you?
20:43 < admiralspark> I'm modern debian or Centos7 everywhere so I could do that
20:43 < admiralspark> hmmmmmm
20:43 < admiralspark> might be reinventing the wheel here
20:43 < admiralspark> I just want my fancy graylog dashboards!
20:43 < AnimalFarmPig> https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.exec.html   by default StandardOutput goes to journal
20:44 < Gigadoc2> AnimalFarmPig: I know, I'm already using this feature heavily for scripts and stuff. I just was under the impression that nginx would only write access logs directly to files, which is no longer the case :)
20:45 < admiralspark> *on newer nginx
20:45 < admiralspark> previous to 1.7.x they couldn't
20:45 < Gigadoc2> Ah, yes
20:45 < admiralspark> iirc
20:45 < admiralspark> some people I'm sure still use old ass nginx
20:45 < admiralspark> :P
20:45 < AnimalFarmPig> ahhh... yeah, makes sense. It bothers me when applications really want to log to file rather than standard out. I would much rather use pipes and send the data wherever I want
20:46 < admiralspark> I like having the file because if my syslog server drops/packets drop/something goes wrong, I can still view errors locally
20:46 < Gigadoc2> I only use nginx privately, not at work, so I'm free to always use the latest version. I tend to forget that professional people might not do this :D
20:47 < admiralspark> Hah, man, we have IIS with PHP installed 3rd party for some stuff internally. All my shit is nginx though because I refuse to be trapped in that hell
20:47 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, I'm not using remote logging, so it pretty much always ends up in a file for me :)
20:47 < Gigadoc2> You can log locally and remote with syslog, but that might not be easy if you want the same config on every system
20:48 < ebol4> yeah, i use graylog, but i have the files locally on the servers still just in case
20:48 < admiralspark> well, hence me using rsyslog. I was using the *.* to capture all logs and export, and what I really wanted was audit logs which I have, but today I hit an NGINX issue where I had to ssh in like a filthy pleb
20:48 < admiralspark> ebol4: what are you using for your export to graylog?
20:48 < ebol4> rsyslog
20:52 < admiralspark> ebol4: can you show me your rsyslog config? That's specifically what I'm looking for, trying to capture nginx logs with rsyslog and export to Graylog
20:53 < dragonfleas> is it better to use a litetouch x64 PE or just use x86 for all boot options in WDS
20:54 < admiralspark> dragonfleas: it doesn't matter, as long as your bitness checks work when you do an OS install (or if it's not hands free, you select x64 images)
20:54 < admiralspark> tbh I ended up using only x86 for everything
20:55 < ebol4> admiralspark: you just do something like: *.info      @@10.10.10.1:514
20:55 < ebol4> admiralspark: and then a second line doing the same thing, but to a file
20:55 < dragonfleas> admiralspark, yeah but that value isn't always set from the manufacturer
20:55 < admiralspark> hmm. ebol4 I have *.* @servername:#### right now, which should get them, but it's only capturing the syslog file
20:56 < admiralspark> dragonfleas: yeah, we manually selected the x64 images once it had pxebooted
20:56 < admiralspark> so it didn't matter which lite enviro we used
20:56 < ebol4> admiralspark: redhat knowledgebase thing uses "@@" not just "@", dunno if that's correct
20:56 < ebol4> oh it's working?
20:56 < admiralspark> ebol4: that's for tcp not upd ;)
20:56 < ebol4> but only for syslog
20:56 < ebol4> oh okay
20:56 < admiralspark> yep
20:56 < admiralspark> and audit log, because I redirect those to syslog
20:56 < admiralspark> so
20:56 < ebol4> can't help you there, i didn't use nginx
20:56 < admiralspark> I think I just answered my own question
20:57 < admiralspark> I can see where I'm redirecting auditd logs so I'll try that w/ nginx
20:57 < admiralspark> thanks
20:57 < ebol4> that'll be $5
20:58 < admiralspark> coffeetip 0.02
20:58 < admiralspark> :P
20:58 < pupp3r> #reddit-sysadmin - probably cheaper than your average tech support
20:58 < pupp3r> new slogan
20:58 < SynMonger> you get what you pay for
20:58 < cantibot>  pff
20:59 < cantibot> cheaper than your mom
20:59 < pupp3r> oof
20:59 < cantibot> and she's not even good at computers
20:59 < cantibot> hence her calling me last nighttttttt
20:59 < cantibot> BOOM!
20:59 < felda> The saddest thing I ever read:  Bitcoin is singlehandedly using more energy than all solar panels in the world produce.
21:00 < pupp3r> I mean what's the point of saving the environment if we can't PUT IT ON THE BLOCKCHAIN
21:01 < felda> ^ this is the world the libs want
21:01  * cryptic1 looks
21:01  * cryptic1 walks away again
21:01  * corn266 same
21:01  * cantibot turns 360 degrees
21:02  * admiralspark waves drunkenly
21:02 < SynMonger> careful saying "blockchain"... someone will want to give you funding
21:02 < grumplestiltzkin> bananaphone or moviephone?
21:02 < cantibot> I'd rather a cockchain than a blockchain
21:02 < SynMonger> distinction without a difference
21:03 < cantibot> ☃
21:06 < pupp3r> how do i transfer my soul to the blockchain?
21:07 < Gigadoc2> There is a smart contract for that
21:07 < pupp3r> ah, excellent
21:08  * pupp3r is turned into an ERC20 token
21:13 < scwizard> my friend was trying to get me to figure out for him
21:13 < scwizard> how i could integrate blockchain into his startup
21:14 < scwizard> and I was like "it doesn't make sense to use this technology here"
21:14 < scwizard> and he was saying "yes but figure something out ok"
21:14 < aName> scwizard: I mean... it is the fancy new thing
21:15 < scwizard> how can we integrate blockchain with machine learning?
21:15 < aName> pupp3r: I may or may not have encoded my genome to the BTC blockchain
21:15 < scwizard> in the cloud of course
21:16 < aName> Somewhere out there is a log of transactions between two wallets with their values coding as G C T A lol
21:16 < pupp3r> aName: genomes in the blockchain, huh? ancestry.com better watch out
21:16 < aName> pupp3r: lol
21:16 < aName> ikr?
21:16 < scwizard> aName: guessing you did it before transactions got expensive?
21:16 < aName> scwizard: Yeah
21:16 < scwizard> should have brought some btc then oops
21:17 <+orderchaos> if you can patent DNA, can you patent blockchain sequences?
21:17 < aName> lol you don't really need a whole lot of BTC to do this
21:17 < aName> It just moves back and forth
21:18 < pupp3r> law regarding blockchains is kinda up in the air
21:18 < vinrock> "Early Hackers Used Whistles From Cap'n Crunch Boxes"
21:18 < vinrock> this headline makes me angry
21:18 < pupp3r> apparently there's child porn somewhere on the BTC blockchain so that sparked quite the debate
21:18 < scwizard> The Fargate launch type only supports images in Amazon ECR or public repositories in Docker Hub.
21:18 < scwizard> :thinking:
21:18 < aName> vinrock: .... but they did
21:18 < vinrock> no they didnt
21:18 < aName> vinrock: That was totally a thing
21:19 < onenerdyguy> heyo
21:19 < vinrock> you mean phreaking with a 2600mhz tone?
21:19 < pupp3r> wait... what?
21:19 < aName> vinrock: 2600hz but yes
21:19 < vinrock> yeah thats not hacking
21:19 < vinrock> its phreaking
21:19 < scwizard> pupp3r: how did they resolve that
21:19 < aName> vinrock: Unless you want to differentiate hacking from phr... yeah
21:19 < aName> That's not a fight you'll ever win lol
21:19 < vinrock> still makes me angry
21:19 < vinrock> :clenches fists:
21:19 < pupp3r> scwizard: they didn't AFAIK. the debate just kinda died out
21:19 < scwizard> oh so like it's still there
21:19 < scwizard> awkward
21:19 < pupp3r> yeah
21:20 < pupp3r> they were like "well we can't really make hosting a node illegal sooo....."
21:20 < scwizard> so can the feds just arrest anyone with a bitcoin wallet for possession or what?
21:20 < aName> vinrock: Telephone networks used to have in-band signalling so you could trick the network by whistl... oh you mean the BTC thing
21:20 < scwizard> i guess it gives them a legal mechanism to attempt to ban  btc
21:20 < scwizard> if they ever wanna do that
21:20 < aName> scwizard: You know, that, or require intent as an element of the crime of posession
21:20 < pupp3r> they might technically be able to but i don't think they are actively considering it
21:20 < SynMonger> I heard they hid a dirty bomb in the blockchain
21:21 < vinrock> aname we used to use the tone dialers they sold at radio shack to generate a quarter into the payphone if you pressed two keys at once
21:21 < aName> scwizard: But that wouldn't let us blackball our political rivals
21:21 < scwizard> aName: except currently intent isn't required
21:21 < aName> scwizard: Right
21:21 < aName> scwizard: That's my point
21:21 < vinrock> the capn crunch whistle did 2600hz which would open a clear line back in the day
21:21 < aName> scwizard: It should be
21:21 < aName> scwizard: I know a guy who did four years in a federal prison for posession - intent isn't a factor
21:21 < aName> scwizard: He'd just typed PORN into limewire and hit go
21:21 < vinrock> cp is bad
21:21 < aName> =/
21:21 < vinrock> mm'kay
21:22 < aName> vinrock: Agreed.
21:22 < netritious> vinrock: that's phracking, pre-phreaking age
21:22 < SynMonger> frack you
21:22 < vinrock> frack deez nuts
21:22 < pupp3r> dammit i was born too late to ever enjoy the phreaking era
21:22 < aName> ^
21:22 < vinrock> using pay phones for free was neat
21:23 < vinrock> then they went digital and it stopped working
21:23 < vinrock> :(
21:23 < aName> Yeah, I read about it as a kid but it was all out-of-band signalling by the time I was old enough to understand it
21:23 < pupp3r> everything got all cryptographic and now stuff is all "secure"
21:23 < estranger> the 90s was fun
21:23 < pupp3r> aka boring lol
21:23 < estranger> everyone used to use hubs
21:23 < estranger> and ssl was too hard
21:23 < estranger> good times
21:24 < vinrock> when PBX's were in their infancy one of the big scams was to get a receptionist on the line, get her to hang up and then you could dial out from within the phone system
21:24 < vinrock> lotta big companies paid out the fuckin wazoo for toll calls they didnt know about
21:24 < SynMonger> you want me to decrypt things on the fly? ain't nobody got cpu for that
21:24 < netritious> vinrock: we still have lineman sets and twisted pair outside residences, you know, just in case :D
21:24 < vinrock> my father worked for Polygram Records in the 70s and Santana used to call up to try and do this all the time
21:24 < estranger> asymmetrical encryption on a consumer device??
21:25 < pupp3r> for me reading about phreaking and the early days of the internet is like reading about a fantasy world that i'll never get to visit :(
21:25 < vinrock> the early days of the internet wasnt as rad as you think
21:25 < vinrock> it was pretty much a non stop hunt for porn
21:26 < vinrock> you used to have to go into seedy irc channels or worse, one of the online services
21:26 < vinrock> or newsgroups if you had access
21:26 < vinrock> freewarez era though was fuckin awesome
21:26 < vinrock> that was the wild west
21:26 < estranger> yeah but you couldnt ping australia offline with just a few buddies
21:27 < estranger> *could
21:27 < vinrock> true dat
21:27 < pupp3r> australia still has garbage internet today
21:27 < estranger> and smurf/boink/nestea/etc
21:27 < vinrock> if we wanted to take over an efnet channel we just cause a netsplit like it ain't nothin
21:27 < estranger> winnewk.exe
21:27 < vinrock> never not winnuke'
21:27 < estranger> ICMP UNCREACHABLE, bitches
21:27 < vinrock> makin' lamerz reboot
21:28 < estranger> crashing trumpet winsock
21:29 < netritious> are residential phone lines all digital now too?
21:29 < pupp3r> i have a landline in my house
21:30 < vinrock> the switching is digital
21:30 < vinrock> the lines are analog
21:30 < pupp3r> o
21:30 < netritious> roger, ty vinrock
21:30 < vinrock> hold the ring wire to your tongue and call it
21:30 < vinrock> you'll be surprised
21:30 < netritious> lol
21:30 < vinrock> might poop, too
21:31 < Anaphylaxis> mce9 remember talking to me about dashboard?
21:31 < xamithan> why does toilet flush the wrong way?
21:31 < vinrock> ok im getting sick of users that dont close out the browser windows to the ptz camera and bog it down
21:31 < vinrock> so im gona have to serve it up thropugh something
21:31 < Anaphylaxis> reverse proxy? vinrock
21:31 < vinrock> there anything free n simple that can speak axis ptz cam where i can disconnect users n create session timeouts, etc?
21:33 < felda> all these website keep sending me emails and notifications that their privacy policies are "about to change".  I suppose this means literally all my data is about to go up for sale?
21:33 < xamithan> You have 90 days to opt out
21:33 < xamithan> by letters
21:34 < steevo> felda, no it means that they have been selling your data this whole time, and now they are either A)afraid to get caught B)want to sell more data
21:34 < felda> I mean it's probably not a big deal that companies know I watch only wholesome, vanilla, and romantic pornography
21:34 < SynMonger> it's the GPDR-pocalypse
21:35 < steevo> felda, privacy is always a big deal. 'nothing to hide' is stupid bullshit
21:35 < felda> yeah I know I was being facetious
21:35 < AnimalFarmPig> vinrock: do the users need to be able to ptz or just view the feed?
21:35 < felda> I should have put a KAPPA or /s at the end of that sentence
21:36 < SynMonger> what am I gonna do, stop watching brazillian fart porn?
21:36 < vinrock> they need the controls
21:36 < AnimalFarmPig> can't help there. I wrote a simple proxy for my home camera feeds, but it's view only.
21:36 < vinrock> ah thanks tho
21:36 < rhqq> spacex webcast
21:37 < vinrock> im just annoyed that these mfers keep the window open and dont close it when done
21:37 < AnimalFarmPig> problem with using nginx is, afaik, it's not going to cache the streams. You still end up with multiple connections to the camera.
21:37 < vinrock> so performance is piss poor or sometimes like just now, i cant access the feed because its maxed users
21:37 < AnimalFarmPig> unless there's some nginx plus feature that does this
21:37 < ravioli> rhqq: thanks
21:37 < rhqq> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_0GgKfwCSk
21:37 < ravioli> space-x launch in t-minus 10 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_0GgKfwCSk
21:37 < felda> ravioli what ISP do you use?
21:37 < SynMonger> feed the camera to an NVR software and have the users log in to that
21:38 < vinrock> thats what im looking to do
21:38 < steevo> I can't decide if I want this to succeed to further space exploration/development, or if I want it to fail because Musk is involved
21:38 < vinrock> there's an nvr package for synology but it's pretty heavy duty so im trying to avoid installing that
21:38 < ravioli> felda: at home i use the wifi hotspot on my phone because of complicated reasons
21:38 < vinrock> id spin up a lightweight vm tho if i can find something
21:39 < AnimalFarmPig> vinrock: how does the ptz work? Simple http requests?
21:39 < felda> ravioli I need to know which carrier I am going to buy some bulk data and usage patterns from  ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
21:39 < vinrock> yup
21:39 < cantibot> I'm going to make a racist HTTP Daemon and call it INJUNX
21:39 < AnimalFarmPig> hmmm.... you could proxy all of that
21:39 < AnimalFarmPig> and then use streaming proxy for the actual feed
21:39 < rhqq> guys, what this guy has on the desk behind his laptop?
21:39 < AnimalFarmPig> it's embedding a mpjeg in an <img> tag?
21:40 < rhqq> looks like a switch or what?
21:40 < vinrock> i havent looked too too far into it, there is a plugin tho its not using mjpeg its h.264
21:40 < ravioli> rhqq: yes
21:40 < AnimalFarmPig> h.264 over rtsp?
21:40 < vinrock> yup
21:40 < rhqq> ravioli: rack type switch on the desk :P
21:41 < felda> could be some form of audio equipment?
21:41 < felda> oh no
21:41 < felda> I jsut got called into a meeting
21:41 < ravioli> sucks they won't be recovering the first stage
21:41 < vinrock> it's the new sonos soundbar
21:41 < felda> RIP spacex stream
21:41 < vinrock> viral marketing
21:41 < alazare619> felda:  dont lie you watch national geographic porn
21:41 < alazare619> if them tiddys aint scraping the dirt
21:41 < alazare619> felda aint watching it
21:42 < vinrock> that african tribe that paints themselves with the red clay
21:42 < vinrock> they have pretty nice boobs
21:42 < vinrock> id nat geo that shit
21:42 < pupp3r> oh yeah national geographic has all the babes
21:43 < Hatter> spacex launch?
21:43 < bmurt> odd to jerk off to nat geo, but no shame in any game
21:43 < Hatter> you guys are meant to properly announce those
21:43 < vinrock> c
21:43 < bmurt> gotta do what you gotta do
21:43 < ravioli> anyway
21:44 < onenerdyguy> so whats everyone up to today
21:44 < felda> ravioli that rocket is one of the earlier models that really hard to repair so it isn't worth it to recover it
21:44 < chesshire> onenerdyguy: backup audits.
21:44 < ravioli> felda: ah. that makes sense.
21:44 < onenerdyguy> chesshire, that's not automated? for shame
21:44 < vinrock> they need to start broadcasting these in 4k hdr
21:44 < vinrock> it's 2018 damnit
21:45 < chesshire> onenerdyguy: That's my next project :D
21:45 < pupp3r> get some of that nice middle-out compression
21:45 < onenerdyguy> smart man
21:45 < felda> ravioli please gander at the needful https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/8kyk5a/rspacex_iridium_next_6_official_launch_discussion/
21:45 < felda> SpaceX will expend the B1043 booster, as it's a Block 4 booster and SpaceX doesn't intend to use these boosters more than twice since Block 5 is taking over. They will, however, try to recover a side of the fairing, using the high-speed boat Mr Steven. The recovery of the fairings is still experimental, so don't expect success.
21:46 < felda> Block 5 is the super new 90% reusable model that is being certified for human flight uses
21:46 < ravioli> i love how they name things. like, i know it's just PR and i'm falling for it but i don't care
21:46 < AnimalFarmPig> vinrock: so, this is definitely doable, but a little complex. Displaying controls for the camera aren't producing appreciable loads, presumably, it's the multiple h264 streams that cause the problem. To mitigate this, you can use ffmpeg to grab the stream and write it to a fifo (named pipe). Then, allow multiple readers to read off the pipe (with tee, or custom code). This is essential how my camera proxy code works.
21:46 < ravioli> "mr stevens" is their high speed fairing recovery boat and "of course i still love you" is their first stage recovery barge
21:47 < AnimalFarmPig> vinrock: you would need to write your own UI and have a proxy to send PTZ calls to the camera though
21:47 < vinrock> yeah i dont think its necessarily a complex project just one that requires effort im not willing to invest in thats why im just searching for an off the shelf solution thats free and lightweight
21:47 < pupp3r> here's a cool site to watch the spacex launches: https://rocket.watch
21:47 < vinrock> worst case scenario ill end up constructing something like you descreibe
21:48 < AnimalFarmPig> I looked for something like this without the ptz controls for exactly this situation a while ago, and I didn't find anything. That's why I wrote one myself.
21:48 < vinrock> or ill just start leaving the camera offline from now on
21:48 < pupp3r> ohp. the rocket just launched
21:48 < vinrock> teach them the hard way
21:48 < bmurt> you don't say pupp3r
21:48 < bmurt> i was wondering what the shit was on my screen
21:49  * AnimalFarmPig roots for explosion
21:49 < vinrock> look at that crisp image
21:49 < vinrock> oh snap yo rocket is about to launch
21:49 < vinrock> quick, grab a potato
21:49 < vinrock> watching this feed is like im drunk but without the other good vibes
21:50 < onenerdyguy> dang it. I need cheap storage for home. Anyone got something to sell me?
21:50 < int0x1C8> I find it awesome to see how much the exhaust plume fans out at higher alt
21:50 < AnimalFarmPig> explodeyboi pls
21:50 < int0x1C8> KSP doesn't represent that very well
21:50 < vinrock> hey sarah you here
21:50 < ravioli> it does with mods
21:50 < vinrock> you send anything in space yet
21:50 < int0x1C8> yeah I know RSS does
21:51 < int0x1C8> but I'm not a masochist so I'm not going to install it on my primary game
21:51 < vinrock> im gona get down with KSP when they come out with the next version that has fancy graphics
21:51 < ravioli> i stopped messing with mods a while back
21:51 < ravioli> i wish they'd just switch over to the steam workshop
21:51 < vinrock> the visuals are too boring for me to spend hours immersed in
21:52 < ravioli> there's mods for that, vinrock.
21:52 < vinrock> oh no shit
21:52 < ravioli> but mod management sucks. or, it did last i messed with it.
21:52 < int0x1C8> I'd rather do it by hand anyway
21:52 < hxcsp> JollyRgrs mistiry apparently you are not playing fortnite with me
21:52 < vinrock> i watch robbaz's videos playing KSP and the mods seem like a huge deal
21:52 < rhqq> ravioli: there was a nice mod management tool
21:52 < rhqq> like a handful of them
21:53 < int0x1C8> there's CKAN I think its called
21:53 < SynMonger> ckan was what I used, if I recall
21:54 < vinrock> anyone still playing far cry 5? that one seemed to flame out kinda quick.
21:54 < rhqq> i remember playing KSP when that thing was only for windows, so i had to mess with mods manually on linuxa anyway ://
21:54 < vinrock> i was gona buy an xbawks for it
21:54 < rhqq> eww, xbrick
21:54 < bmurt> buy an xbox for bf1
21:54 < bmurt> and pubg
21:54 < rhqq> haha
21:54 < rhqq> xD
21:54 < hxcsp> pubg was so 2017
21:54 < vinrock> im not into fps'
21:54 < bmurt> and a new bf coming out
21:54 < ravioli> xbox one x is actually pretty decent as far as consoles
21:54 < vinrock> pretty much just gona be forza and the occasional big title
21:54 < ravioli> ...i've heard.
21:55 < bmurt> pubg has third person vinrock
21:55 < bmurt> :D
21:55 < rhqq> hah
21:55 < rhqq> ;p
21:55 < vinrock> yea ravioli gona get the x
21:55 < vinrock> i aint got 5 g's to blow on a pc
21:55 < bmurt> i have forza as well
21:55 < ravioli> i also have forza
21:55 < vinrock> im huge into forza
21:55 < vinrock> gona build a racing rig
21:55 < ravioli> horizon 3 > forza 7
21:55 < rhqq> vinrock: why would spend that much
21:55 < hxcsp> vinrock: if you get it without the video card its only like $400
21:55 < hxcsp> iinstead of $5k
21:55 < steevo> vinrock, what the hell kind of pc do you want that costs 5000
21:55 < rhqq> my gaming rig is like $600
21:55 < vinrock> i always build monster pc's
21:55 < vinrock> they last mad long too
21:56 < ravioli> i haven't turned on my gaming computer in more than a year now
21:56 < rhqq> my gaming rig has xeon from 2000s
21:56 < rhqq> ;-)
21:56 < vinrock> yeah me either, not since i moved
21:56 < rhqq> and gf 1050ti
21:56 < vinrock> that was last july
21:56 < pupp3r> 1050ti is my jam
21:56 < ravioli> there's something to be said for having a box you press the power button on and everything's all set and you don't have to mess with drivers or software incompatibilities or whatever.
21:56 < pupp3r> best price I've gotten for a card yet
21:56 < vinrock> i was thinking of building a new pc not too long ago and decided to wait for pci 4.0
21:56 < ravioli> yeah
21:56 < ravioli> gotta get that pci compliance
21:57 < vinrock> ive still got the i7 920 box i built in 2009 the week the Core I7 came out thats nice n speedy
21:57 < vinrock> only upgrades were a pair of GTX 570's and Samsung SSD for system
21:57 < vinrock> that thing was close to 6 grand when i built it
21:58 < AnimalFarmPig> I've got a 1050 Ti in my gaming rig as well
21:58 < vinrock> 9 years of service tho overclocked to 4ghz
21:58 < rhqq> um, same with my xeon
21:58 < rhqq> nothing unusual...
21:58 < AnimalFarmPig> it pisses off the /r/buildapc crowd-- i7 5820k + 32 GB of memory + 1050 Ti
21:58 < vinrock> nice
21:58 < vinrock> ive got a 5930K in this box
21:59 < AnimalFarmPig> I can here the "REEEEEEEEEEEEE" and "bang for bucks" from all the way over here
21:59 < AnimalFarmPig> nice
21:59 < AnimalFarmPig> I wanted to go with a Xeon E5 v4 engineering sample, but it didn't like my mobo. I think I bought a 2630 or 2640 v4.
22:00 < vinrock> man i always wanted an engineering sample
22:00 < vinrock> just to say i own one
22:00 <@JollyRgrs> hxcsp: no, it seems you are not playing fortnite with us
22:00 < AnimalFarmPig> there are probably still a few on ebay
22:00 < vinrock> remember unlocking the multiplier on athlon procs with a pencil
22:00 < vinrock> that was so dope
22:00 < abakedapplepie> hahahaha
22:00 < rhqq> haha
22:00 < rhqq> yeah
22:00 < abakedapplepie> those were the days
22:00 < AnimalFarmPig> I'm just waiting now for people to decommission their broadwell based servers so I can get cheap surplus Xeon E5 v4's
22:00 < abakedapplepie> i still have a 1700+ sitting in my parents garage
22:01 < abakedapplepie> that little beast would not die
22:01 < rhqq> well, im gaming on my xeon E5450
22:01 < abakedapplepie> i got the core to 106 degrees C once
22:01 < rhqq> lga771 modded to 775
22:01 < vinrock> jaysus
22:01 < AnimalFarmPig> I went from dual PPro 200's to a Barton core Athlon, was a bit of a jump
22:01 < vinrock> dude
22:01 < abakedapplepie> OCed it and forgot to plug in the CPU fan
22:01 < abakedapplepie> lol
22:01 < vinrock> those ppro200's were monsters
22:01 < AnimalFarmPig> I still have a couple 771->775 stickers somewhere in my parts closet
22:01 < rhqq> yeah
22:01 < rhqq> i put some AIO watercooling
22:02 < rhqq> 4ghz
22:02 < vinrock> i had a dual ppro200 workstation and then the Pentium 4 came out and I got a Precision 330 workstation
22:02 < vinrock> barely felt any quicker than the PPro box
22:02 < rhqq> i can play witcher3 with high details
22:02 < vinrock> but that was also when the Geforce line came out
22:02 < vinrock> and that was like, whoooooa
22:02 < AnimalFarmPig> hell yeah, the PPro's were monsters. Only problem I ran into was no AGP, so I was limited to PCI for graphics card. I was running something like 384 MB of RAM in that thing, which was an ungodly amount for early 2000's
22:02 < abakedapplepie> heh
22:02 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, multiple processors was killer feature
22:03 < syere> I still remember having a 500mhz amd chip and 512mb of memory. Thought I was hot shit!
22:03 < abakedapplepie> 512mb?
22:03 < abakedapplepie> fucking trust fund baby
22:03 < ravioli> yeah jeesh
22:03 < vinrock> dude I paid like $1400 for 512MB of RDRAM
22:03 < ravioli> that's way more ram than you'll ever need
22:03 < Heresiarch> lol RDRAM.
22:03 < syere> SDRAM, before ddr and ard
22:03 < vinrock> what a fuckin scam
22:03 < abakedapplepie> i keep a stick of rdram around as a reminder
22:03 < cantibot> man, I wanna go back to windows 2k
22:03 < abakedapplepie> a cautionary tale, of sorts
22:03 < AnimalFarmPig> "What do you need all that RAM for?"   goddammit, I hung out with buildapc people too much :(
22:03 < vinrock> i did also but then i lost track of it somewhere :(
22:04 < steevo> I had 512mb of SDRAM in the early 2000s
22:04 < vinrock> the blue heatsinks tho were ballerrrrrrrr
22:04 < Heresiarch> Rambus. Because beating JEDEC-standard products on the merits was just too hard.
22:04 < steevo> I think it was 2003/4 when I got the machine
22:04 < vinrock> and the rdram used to run CRAZY hot
22:04 < syere> I dont remember what had happened, but one day sdram memory just DROPPED. So much so even Best Buy (online was still sketchy) had fantastic deals going on
22:04 < abakedapplepie> was that after the original price fixing scandal
22:04 < vinrock> yeah ram prices seemed to just plummet all of a sudden
22:04 < abakedapplepie> 2005 or so
22:05 < abakedapplepie> 2006 maybe
22:05 < vinrock> ram used to be so outrageously expensive
22:05 < syere> I wanna say this particular thing happened around 2002
22:05 < vinrock> rdram took the prize but in general
22:05 < syere> maybe 03
22:05 <@JollyRgrs> because people stopped buying ram so they could afford more vidya cards
22:05 < vinrock> shit was mad loochie
22:05 < steevo> vinrock, ram is currently outrageously expensive
22:05 < AnimalFarmPig> ^
22:05 < abakedapplepie> oh yeah i guess 2006 was getting into DDR territory
22:05 <@JollyRgrs> vinrock: my sister had a PC with Rambus in it
22:05 < vinrock> id say its high right now, not outrageous
22:05 < vinrock> dafuq
22:05 < vinrock> qhy did your sister's pc have that
22:06 <@JollyRgrs> but i mean... 800mhz while we were going to ddr1 at what? 233mhz?
22:06 < AnimalFarmPig> I mean, not outrageously expensive in historic terms (way less than $1/MB!), but super expensive compared to like 2 years ago
22:06 < AnimalFarmPig> but not compared to 3 years ago
22:06 < vinrock> oh it was super slick
22:06 < AnimalFarmPig> but expensive again compared to 4 years ago
22:06 < vinrock> multichannel also, rdram was the first
22:06 <@JollyRgrs> vinrock: she had a PC from best buy, VPR Matrix (their "custom", "built with only quality parts" computers)
22:06 < abakedapplepie> and then you buy one stick and forget to get the blanking adapter
22:06 <@JollyRgrs> and yeah, it was really nice
22:06 < abakedapplepie> rip
22:06 < Heresiarch> but the latency on RDRAM was so high that it couldn't make much use of the bandwidth.
22:06 <@JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: haha
22:07 < vinrock> my favorite new thing are these closed loop liquid cooling solutions
22:07 < vinrock> dont have to build shit any more and at least in my experience, completely reliable
22:08 < vinrock> and works gud!
22:08 < pupp3r> liquid cooling is neato
22:08 < ravioli> remember when it was popular to have submerged machines?
22:08 <@JollyRgrs> vinrock: i'd only build my own b/c i just don't like OEM cases and boards and their non-standards asses (esp. Dell MBs and cases)
22:08 < abakedapplepie> water cooling is so passe
22:08 < abakedapplepie> immersion cooling is where its at
22:08 < abakedapplepie> dont you want to be like cray
22:08 < vinrock> on my i7 920 box I started with oen of those gigantic HSF units, solid copper, expensive af, sounded like a 747 in my pc
22:09 < Heresiarch> abakedapplepie: 2002 called. They said you're a little late.
22:09 < vinrock> when the Corsair H50 came out I got one of them and immediately was able to go from 3.8 to 4.0 OC with barely any noise
22:09 < abakedapplepie> i wonder how much an old cray is
22:09 <@JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: i remember seeing a Cray immersed at epcot back in the early 90s
22:09 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, I like the all-in-one liquid coolers. They're around the same price as large air coolers, cool well enough, are quiet, and are small
22:09 < vinrock> jollyrgrs:  the Precision 330 I bought in '99 was the last commercial PC ive owned
22:09 < abakedapplepie> cray was about aesthetics way before apple
22:09 < vinrock> since then i must have built over 100 high performance rigs
22:09 < abakedapplepie> i love their brutalist technological aesthetic
22:10 < abakedapplepie> feels like a sci fi movie
22:10 < xamithan> what the hell is a cray
22:10 < vinrock> u cray
22:10 < abakedapplepie> old school computing clusters
22:10 < ravioli> totes
22:10 < AnimalFarmPig> crays are the only computer I know of to come with a built-in bench
22:10 < abakedapplepie> ahead of its time in many ways
22:11 < abakedapplepie> oh wow cray is still in business
22:11 < vinrock> i kinda want to nerd out and get a WOPR coffee table
22:11 < cantibot> thats...cray cray
22:11 < vinrock> or build one cuz i dont think anyone makes em
22:11 < cantibot> YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
22:11 < AnimalFarmPig> I wish there were something like SGI's NUMAlink for commodity x86 machines. That would be my dream.
22:11 < SynMonger> http://images.computerhistory.org/revonline/images/500004254-03-01.jpg?w=600
22:11 < vinrock> oh shit is that the zodiac killer?
22:11 < abakedapplepie> https://static.electronicsweekly.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/13193919/IMG_1191.jpg damn id rock the hell out of that
22:12 < abakedapplepie> AnimalFarmPig: there is
22:12 < AnimalFarmPig> Need to increase compute capacity? Build a compute blade, plug it into chassis, bam
22:12 < abakedapplepie> numalink has been built on for decades
22:12 < AnimalFarmPig> abakedapplepie: for consumer use?
22:12 < abakedapplepie> no lol
22:12 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, exactly
22:12 < abakedapplepie> i think HP makes it
22:12 < AnimalFarmPig> something I could run in my homelab though?
22:12 < SynMonger> I saw a cray at the smithsonian... beautiful machines
22:13 < abakedapplepie> yep HPE makes it now
22:13 < vinrock> i was always fond of the SUN cubes with the caster wheels
22:13 < AnimalFarmPig> http://images.computerhistory.org/revonline/images/500004254-03-01.jpg?w=600    <---- awesome benchyboi
22:13 < AnimalFarmPig> vinrock: yeah, starfire and constellation, iirc
22:13 < abakedapplepie> that guy looks like a really young robin williams
22:13 < abakedapplepie> but not what robin williams acually looked like young
22:13 < vinrock> i thought it was ted cruz
22:13 < abakedapplepie> i see that too now
22:13 < abakedapplepie> you mean the zodiac killer right
22:14 < vinrock> (4:12:14 PM) vinrock: oh shit is that the zodiac killer?
22:14 < vinrock> ^
22:14 < ravioli> it's george washington mixed with robin williams
22:14 < abakedapplepie> oh haha
22:14 < vinrock> according to the local news, there is a serial butt grabber on the loose in princeton
22:15 < abakedapplepie> is it donald trump
22:15 < steevo> vinrock, that's rather humorous
22:15 < steevo> abakedapplepie, someone would notice the security guys he's always surrounded with, being the President of the United States and all
22:16 < vinrock> the description is actually a 5'3" mexican fella
22:16 < vinrock> (not making that up)
22:16 < vinrock> and he uses two hands
22:16 < vinrock> really gets in there
22:16 < vinrock> then runs
22:16 < steevo> vinrock, aww yeah
22:17 < abakedapplepie> damn two whole hands
22:17 < vinrock> some lady called into the radio station and was like "some guy this morning grabbed my boobs when I was crossing the street" so the hosts are all acting concerned for her
22:17 < abakedapplepie> the madman
22:17 < vinrock> shes like "Oh i can't blame him, I paid a lot for these babies!"
22:17 < vinrock> MY KINDA GAL
22:18 < pupp3r> one of my local radio hosts was talking about that guy who has no arms or legs and he does motivational speaking
22:19 < pupp3r> he called him the "motivational torso" lol
22:19 < vinrock> ♪ i have no legs ♪
22:19 < hxcsp> shes nubs
22:20 < corn266> she's nubs! she's nubs! sheeee's nubs!
22:21 < hxcsp> shes totally rad
22:21 < corn266> she can't pick up the phone she can't get dressed alone
22:24 < cantibot> well fuck this shit
22:24 < cantibot> I am going home
22:25 < SynMonger> I went to high school with a guy whose mother was given thalidomide, all he had was a bit of one arm and no legs
22:25 < cantibot> I am going to drink beer
22:25 < cantibot> and nap
22:25 < cantibot> and play with my cat
22:25 < cantibot> so....
22:25 < cantibot> I love you all.
22:25 < corn266> same cantibot it's the 5th time this machine has kernel panicked
22:25 < cantibot> yea dude, fuck that man we'll get it tomorrow
22:25 < cantibot> lol
22:25 < corn266> I hear that, later all
22:26 < cantibot> peace!
22:28 < SynMonger> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T-1HcxafdA
22:30 < derpingit> any u guys do firefox enterprise deployments with a custom firefox.cfg for homepage and other custom default settings?
22:42 < chesshire> Nah, we give our users too much credit to not bork up their browsers.
22:44  * pupp3r borks
22:44 < ThisIsSys> How stable is the build 1703 (16299.431) we are on 16299.15 in our school computers and are planning to either do an in place upgrade to the latest build or create a customized version of our OS from scratch on the new build.
22:45 < Astr0_Belt> Only 15 more minutes in this office. woo.
22:46 <@Code_Man65> You should be on either 1706 or 1803
22:46 <@Code_Man65> Not 1703
22:46 < ThisIsSys> Ah shit. i meant 1709!
22:46 < ThisIsSys> We are not taking risks with 1803 now.
22:48 < alazare619> so i looked at my 401k benefecieraries
22:48 < alazare619> apparently my wife was born in 1900
22:49 < alazare619> what you know about the GGGMILF
22:52 < ebol4> my god is it 5 yet
22:52 < SynMonger> no *cracks whip*
22:53 < vinrock> https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/8l4zhj/horrible_boss_of_past_job/
22:53 < vinrock> i hope this isnt one of you nerds
22:53 < Sarah> this is AMAZING https://i.redd.it/63a8pd2cphv01.png
22:53 < SynMonger> I'm on 10 hour days for the summer and it's booooring
22:54 < ebol4> god why
22:54 < ebol4> jesus
22:54 < vinrock> hah
22:54 < ebol4> do you get friday off or something?
22:54 < SynMonger> only 4 day work week
22:54 < xamithan> Fuck stop posting links without the old.reddit.com
22:54 < ebol4> i guess that's better than a 48 hour work week
22:54 < pupp3r> yeah new reddit sucks
22:54 < pupp3r> apparently they like form over function
22:54 < vinrock> s/new/
22:54 < vinrock> oh yeah
22:54 < vinrock> no bot any more
22:55 < xamithan> They want to bring in younger new users
22:55 < xamithan> I don't see why they want to fight against twitter anyway
22:55 < SynMonger> yeah, you olds can fuck off
22:55 < pupp3r> I could honestly do without younger users
22:55 < pupp3r> the reddit demographic is fine as it is
22:55 < vinrock> ive always assumed reddit was fulla children
22:55 < xamithan> The shitposting 10 year olds is enough,  we don't need shitposting 6 year olds
22:55 < ebol4> i'm not sure why they think social media platforms need to complete. reddit serves its own purpose, facebook serves its own, twitter serves....
22:55 < ebol4> etc
22:55 < ThisIsSys> Only 215 days until my next vacation!
22:56 < pupp3r> exactly what xamithan said lol
22:56 <+AnonymooseWork> gents
22:56 < ebol4> fellas
22:56 < vinrock> hombres
22:57 < pupp3r> my dudes
22:59 < Astr0_Belt> finally 5pm
22:59 < user-and-abuser> dudes named ben
22:59 < Astr0_Belt> and on that note, im out. cya guys.
23:00 < int0x1C8> those sat deploys are beautiful
23:00 < CheckYourSix> JollyRgrs: 2.5 hours of diagnostics and we discovered that 1 long cable, 1 splitter, and 2 short pieces of cable were bad. Replaced them all. What a mess. I had to move everything.
23:00 <+AnonymooseWork> lol CheckYourSix
23:00 <+AnonymooseWork> CheckYourSix what were you fixing?
23:00 < CheckYourSix> Now my signals are all +9-10 dB
23:00 <+AnonymooseWork> ah
23:00 <+AnonymooseWork> coax
23:00 < CheckYourSix> Yup
23:00 <+AnonymooseWork> gotta love shoddy coax
23:00 < ebol4> how does coax go bad? just the termination?
23:00 < CheckYourSix> Internet would randomly die. Now it should be totally solid. Signal is actually too strong. 10 dB is the limit
23:00 <+AnonymooseWork> ebol4 - usually
23:01 <+AnonymooseWork> sometimes cable RG5, vs RG59 vs RG6
23:01 < CheckYourSix> ebol4: Who knows. It was shitty coax that was in the wall forever. Walmart grade shit. Probably kinked for long enough and just died
23:01 < xamithan> pet bites will make them leak signal
23:01 <+AnonymooseWork> staples in the insulation
23:01 < xamithan> erosion will make the SNR go up too
23:01 <+AnonymooseWork> oxidation
23:01 < SynMonger> the shield will wick up moisture, too
23:01 < int0x1C8> the tubes just fill up with junk
23:01 < xamithan> Yeah that,  lol not erosion
23:01 <+AnonymooseWork> lol xamithan
23:01 < vinrock> ooh my airfiber 5xhd's came in
23:02 < Casteil> https://i.imgur.com/F6vclya.png oh shiggity
23:02 <@JollyRgrs> global warming will do it
23:02 <+AnonymooseWork> nice
23:02 < xamithan> I'm still thinking about that white house sinkhole,  don't mind me
23:02 < CheckYourSix> xamithan: ?
23:02 <@JollyRgrs> CheckYourSix: getting all excited about his McAfee trials?
23:02 <@JollyRgrs> err, Casteil
23:02 < Casteil> my boss ordered (apparently) two identical XPS 15 9570s with 512GB SSDs + 4K displays o_O
23:02 < xamithan> CheckYourSix: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sinkhole-appears-on-white-house-lawn/
23:02 <@JollyRgrs> nice
23:02 < Casteil> totally didn't request 512 or 4K
23:03 <+AnonymooseWork> Casteil nice
23:03 <+AnonymooseWork> why XPS and not lattitude?
23:03 <@JollyRgrs> there are no sink holes in DC
23:03 < ebol4> a secret tunnel caved in
23:03 <@JollyRgrs> there are just pockets that weren't reinforced when something...
23:03 <+AnonymooseWork> JollyRgrs sure there are - the white house
23:03 <+AnonymooseWork> congress
23:03 <@JollyRgrs> exactly
23:03 <+AnonymooseWork> the west sing
23:03 < Casteil> AnonymooseWork: Latitudes don't have anything quite as beefy as the i7-8750H
23:03 <+AnonymooseWork> Casteil ah
23:03 < Casteil> and Precisions... are expensive as hell, plus they haven't been updated to gen8 intel
23:03 <+AnonymooseWork> hehe
23:03 < int0x1C8> nah its just the portal where satan can jump out and talk to trump
23:03 < CheckYourSix> AnonymooseWork: Before - https://i.imgur.com/QUgu2Yo.png && After - https://i.imgur.com/p2LejeQ.png
23:03 <+AnonymooseWork> precisions are pricey as hell
23:04 < int0x1C8> figured there wasn't any point in hiding it anymore
23:04 < vinrock> man i want a new x1 carbon but ima hold out and see if they bring the i9 to it
23:04 <+AnonymooseWork> we bought one a little while ago
23:04 <+AnonymooseWork> it was over $3k
23:04 < Casteil> yep
23:04 < Casteil> if I wanted to get something comparable to this i7-8750H in a precision it'd probably be damn near 3k
23:05 < Casteil> frankly a latitude 7490 with the i7-8650U probably would suffice
23:05 <+AnonymooseWork> yeah
23:05 <+AnonymooseWork> the 7490 can do 16gb ram now too
23:05 <+AnonymooseWork> i have a 7440
23:05 < Casteil> http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8750H-vs-Intel-Core-i7-8650U/m470418vsm353957 < though the 8750H is still a good deal faster multi-core than the 8650U
23:06 <+AnonymooseWork> my 7440 is ... odd
23:06 <+AnonymooseWork> i don't have a service tag on it
23:06 < Casteil> I have a 7470 and it's served me well
23:06 <+AnonymooseWork> and the service tag in the bios belongs to an optiplex 390
23:06 < Jekotia> Lets say I have two services running on a machine, which I would like to be able to send email. Instead of configuring them for the remote mail server, I'd like to configure them to pass messages using a third service on the local machine, which then sends to the actual remote mail server. Is there a term for the intermediate mail service I'm looking for?
23:07 < Casteil> but building/debugging is frickin tedious and I made the case that a 4x more powerful CPU would add up to a lot less time wasted waiting for builds :p
23:07 < Casteil> (7470 has an i5-6300U dual core)
23:07 <+AnonymooseWork> Casteil you should have a build server
23:08 < Casteil> then I wouldn't have an excuse to get a sweet laptop!
23:08 < Casteil> :P
23:11 <+AnonymooseWork> :)
23:11 <+AnonymooseWork> but seriously
23:11 <+AnonymooseWork> build server
23:11 <+AnonymooseWork> automate your builds
23:11 <+AnonymooseWork> and your testing
23:11 <+AnonymooseWork> anyay
23:11 <+AnonymooseWork> i'm going home
23:11 < rhqq> eh, FreeIPA is fucking huge
23:12 < int0x1C8> welp, its that time
23:12 < int0x1C8> screw you guyz im goin home /cartman
23:14 < asimon> fuck this shit i'm out
23:17 < ravioli> ugh
23:18 < DomLS3> double ugh
23:18 < DomLS3> 45 minutes to go
23:18 < admiralspark> 3 hrs 45min to go :(
23:18 < scwizard> my coworker that's on paternity leave
23:18 < scwizard> just brought in his 1 month old
23:18 < scwizard> omg he's so adorable
23:18 < admiralspark> hahahaa
23:18 < scwizard> so tiny O_O
23:19 < scwizard> the girls at the office couldn't even
23:19 < admiralspark> scwizard: now don't you go making more wizards now
23:19 < scwizard> the office dog was saying hi to him and they were dyin
23:19 < DomLS3> I wish I had an office dog
23:19 < DomLS3> that would be awesome
23:19 < scwizard> admiralspark: he's my coworker son not mine lol
23:19 < admiralspark> DomLS3: buy one of those giant valentines day sized ones :P
23:20 < admiralspark> scwizard: no I know, just don't get any ideas is what I meant :P
23:20 < scwizard> although if I'm gonna go up to one of the girls in the office and be like "lets get married and have a baby" today would be the day to do it lol
23:20 < admiralspark> hahahaha
23:20 < scwizard> i think some of them are gonna have awkward talks with their boyfriends tonight
23:23 < joelazot> Hello
23:23 < admiralspark> o/
23:27 < Jekotia> I sorta wish we had an office dog, but the poor thing would spend half the time hiding from the loudspeakers the engineers are testing...
23:28 < scwizard> oh fuck me
23:28 < scwizard> https://docs.aws.amazon.com/cli/latest/reference/ecr/get-login.html
23:28 < scwizard> the huge docker login thing that ecs gives
23:28 < scwizard> is only valid for 12 hours
23:29 < scwizard> suddenly i'm so damn glad that I wrote that ugly bash script for interfacing with the aws api
23:29 < scwizard> i really thought it would be a one time use but it turned out not to be wow
23:29 < scwizard> this is assuming the docker in docker image even has openssl installed
23:37 < scwizard> oh noooo
23:37 < scwizard> docker in docker is using busybox
23:38 < xamithan> containers aren't like virtual machines O.o
23:38 < scwizard> i know :(
23:39 < scwizard> but yeah it means I can't hope to grab the docker login token from aws in that image
23:39 < scwizard> and if i load up another image then pass it in like
23:40 < scwizard> it would slow down the build so much ugg
23:42 < scwizard> so if I bind mount the docker socket
23:42 < scwizard> which I should be doing anyway
23:42 < scwizard> i don't need any fanciness, i just need a image with the docker cli tool
23:44 < felda> hell yeah gotta love Android app auto-opening over what you are doing whenever you receive a notification
23:44 < felda> definitely not mad
23:44 < felda>   (•̀ 益•̀)
23:44 < scwizard> what app is that?
23:44 < scwizard> never had an app do that
23:46 < felda> Facebook Messenger
23:46 < scwizard> oh i uninstalled messenger
23:46 < felda> also Google Assistant has done it to me too
23:46 < scwizard> it just got more obnoxious over time
23:46 < scwizard> tbh it was the thumbsup thing that prompted me to
23:47 < scwizard> it sends a message without any prompting, just if you hit somewhere on the screen
23:47 < admiralspark> felda: that's garbage Facebook design and permissions, it has perms to automatically draw over the screen
23:47 < scwizard> the bubble feature was pretty cool actually but
23:48 < admiralspark> I swear, most people with android never *read* the permissions they give it
23:48 < scwizard> i liked messanger drawing over the screen
23:48 < scwizard> you could do something in another app and text your friend
23:48 < admiralspark> scwizard: until you try to watch a video and they ping you
23:48 < admiralspark> :P
23:49 < scwizard> maybe i have a good phone
23:49 < scwizard> but it wouldn't interupt the video i'd just swipe them away
23:51 < felda> admiralspark just paid of my S7 Edge I guess I could unlock it and root it
23:51 < admiralspark> felda: you guys have root? They haven't dev'd it yet on the LG V30
23:52 < admiralspark> briefly considered getting back into root exploits but I just don't have the free time with work that I did in school
23:52 < DomLS3> felda: don't be mad cause your porn got interrupted
23:52 < admiralspark> DomLS3: we all know it was a pfsense 2.5 demo video
23:52 < DomLS3> I have no use for root
23:53 < DomLS3> so I don't worry about it anymore
23:53 < admiralspark> Eh, I like some of the wireless sniffing stuff you could do. Didn't have to haul a laptop with me places.
23:53 < admiralspark> Xposed was kinda cool too
23:54 < admiralspark> the LG UI is fairly nice though so I don't feel the need for custom roms anymore
23:54 < DomLS3> I hated my LG v10
23:54 < DomLS3> but one thing they did right which I wish everyone else would do is the knock on/off feature
23:54 < DomLS3> was so convenient
23:56 < admiralspark> yesssssss
23:56 < MillerBOSS> Nooooo
23:56 < MillerBOSS> `bofh
23:56 < admiralspark> it's double-tap now. Awesome feature. That, and keeping the headphone jack
23:57 < DomLS3> moron
23:57 < DomLS3> it doesn't work still
23:57 < admiralspark> MillerBOSS: the bot be dead
23:57 < MillerBOSS> BOFH Virus attack, luser responsible
23:57 < DomLS3> if my s9+ had that feature I would rate the phone 10/10
23:57 < DomLS3> instead it gets 9/10
23:57 < MillerBOSS> `bofh
23:57 < MillerBOSS> BOFH Crop circles in the corn shell
23:57 < admiralspark> DomLS3: a headphone jack?
23:57 < admiralspark> haha
23:57 < DomLS3> admiralspark: no
23:57 < MillerBOSS> Oh its alive.
23:57 < DomLS3> the knock on/off feature
23:57 < MillerBOSS> And well
23:57 < anickname> hey
23:57 < admiralspark> `bofh
23:57 < anickname> I'm trying to create this REST api
23:57 < anickname> and I want to require a web API token (so I can differentiate between legitimate client requests and stop requests coming from other sources), and a way to require a user and password field and like encrypt the data
23:58 < anickname> but I have zero idea on how to do this
23:58 < anickname> there's stuff like JWT, OAuth, and I don't know which direction I should go in
23:58 < MillerBOSS> You and me both anickname
23:58 < anickname> some programmers have recommended I just go with whatever is included with my framework, like Django / Ruby on Rails, is this sound advice?
23:58 < admiralspark> anickname: are you looking to protect the customer data? does SSL not meet those needs?
23:58 < admiralspark> anickname: you'd not be rewriting the same code again, so yeah. Definitely look for libraries to help you out
23:58 < anickname> it's more of a not allowing people to just go in and do POST requests and mess up my data
23:59 < admiralspark> yeah, so token auth and such
23:59 < admiralspark> tbh fam
23:59 < admiralspark> make an IRC bot
23:59 < admiralspark> lock it down
23:59 < admiralspark> make it have an API
23:59 < anickname> because the data that's POSTed in will be used by everyone so it needs to be one that's generated by the client, and not by a user tampering with the data
23:59 < anickname> like how would I go about doing token auth?
23:59 < admiralspark> that way the worst that happens if you don't get it 100% the first time, cryptic bans it :P
23:59 < admiralspark> hmm
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