--- Log opened Sat May 26 00:00:33 2018 00:04 < sadbox> admiralspark: When I did this I just used chef 00:04 < hello_kitty> thanks admiralspark 00:05 < admiralspark> sadbox: Wait....are you.... 00:05 < sadbox> https://docs.chef.io/chef_search.html 00:05 < admiralspark> Chef works but it's a higher learning curve than ansible 00:06 < sadbox> you can "search" for other nodes and grab attributes from them 00:06 < admiralspark> also he's provisioning, not config drift checking 00:06 < admiralspark> ahh 00:06 < admiralspark> hmmm 00:06 < admiralspark> thats cool 00:06 < sadbox> so I'd do shit like "search for nodes w/ the role db, give me their eth0 address" 00:06 < sadbox> and then template out a DNS zone from that 00:07 < admiralspark> Ahh, that's slick. I maintain my own so I just had dns provisioning based off of my inventory file :P 00:08 < sadbox> only really works if you can chef everything tbh 00:09 < sadbox> I was building the infra from scratch so it was p easy 00:09 < MillerBOSS> You said you are out this weekend right admiralspark? 00:09 < admiralspark> sadbox: cool 00:10 < admiralspark> MillerBOSS: yeah, I'll be around tonight but tomorrow thru monday I'm roadtripping and drinking 00:10 < admiralspark> otherwise I was gonna ping you, s'why I mention it. 00:10 < MillerBOSS> OK no problem. No rush 00:11 < admiralspark> well, I'm not trying to ignore you, my schedule has been messed up :P 00:11 < MillerBOSS> I know you are not. We all got shit to do for sure. :) 00:11 < admiralspark> word 00:11 < MillerBOSS> up 00:11 < admiralspark> plus this way you can Factorio 00:11 < admiralspark> huehuehue 00:11 < MillerBOSS> Fuck that. I am removing it now 00:13 < MillerBOSS> I don't play many games but https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-05-25-17-12-59-32.png 00:13 <+giant_it_burrit> jesus 00:13 <+giant_it_burrit> go outside 00:13 < MillerBOSS> Whats that? 00:14 <+giant_it_burrit> RL 00:14 < MillerBOSS> I am in real life. 00:14 < MillerBOSS> Are you? 🤔 00:14 <+giant_it_burrit> sadly 00:14 < MillerBOSS> Don't be sad 00:15 < MillerBOSS> Be glad with Glad bags 00:16 < admiralspark> MillerBOSS: jesus you have four games too 00:16 < admiralspark> #dedication 00:16 < MillerBOSS> Ha ha 00:17 < admiralspark> giant_it_burrit: outside is where the printers live, right? 00:17 <+giant_it_burrit> i hope not 00:17 < squealingcode> OK, quick question guys. Does AOC(SFP) need any special mode or connectors to connect two hosts? I'm kinda new at this stuff, and I cannot seem to figure why I am not getting a connection between the two. 00:18 < admiralspark> squealingcode: what's AOC? 00:18 < admiralspark> a brand name? 00:18 < squealingcode> Active Optical Cable 00:18 < admiralspark> oh, is this twinax 00:18 < admiralspark> yeah it is 00:19 < admiralspark> squealingcode: you need drivers for the NIC's if it's baremetal 00:19 < admiralspark> what speed? 00:19 < admiralspark> Is it really SFP and not SFP+? 00:19 < squealingcode> 10gbit 00:19 < admiralspark> okay 00:19 < admiralspark> that's SFP+ 00:19 < squealingcode> SFP+ yes, sorry. 00:19 < admiralspark> are you using an SFP+ cable? :P 00:19 < squealingcode> yes. I seem to get a "link" (green constant light) on both hosts, but they can't "see" each other. 00:20 < admiralspark> I used to intertie servers to a FEX with these all the time, cable brand usually doesn't matter 00:20 < admiralspark> oh 00:20 < admiralspark> link light means l1 is good. 00:20 < squealingcode> No reaction whatsoever if I run tcpdump for example on one end and try to ping on the other. 00:20 < admiralspark> did you configure an IP? 00:20 < admiralspark> err 00:20 < squealingcode> ye, they're on the same subnet. 00:20 < admiralspark> they're in the same subnet right? 00:20 < admiralspark> hahaha 00:20 <+TuxedoJack> Valuable lesson 00:20 < admiralspark> arp -a doesnt show anything? 00:20 <+TuxedoJack> Don't EVER handle a lizard after feeding it unless y ou wash your hands 00:20 <+TuxedoJack> Little fucker thought my fingers were big pink hornworms 00:21 < squealingcode> admiralspark: Wow, not sure why i didn't think of that. just a sec 00:21 < squealingcode> ? (x.x.x.x) at on enp2s0, what could that mean? :-/ 00:22 < admiralspark> that means it didn't arp the address you pinged 00:22 < admiralspark> interesting 00:22 < admiralspark> and it's lit 00:22 < squealingcode> I'm running Ubuntu/Debian on both hosts btw 00:22 < admiralspark> and you're 100% sure you didn't fat finger the ip's 00:22 < admiralspark> and the interface is both admin up and link up 00:22 < admiralspark> because you can link up admin down in *nix 00:22 < squealingcode> OK, one thing to mention. Maybe thats the issue. The server has a network card with two connectors. 00:22 < admiralspark> ohhhhhhhhh 00:23 < admiralspark> yeah, what's 'ifconfig' show? 00:23 < squealingcode> I've assigned an IP to both of them, and tried each of them. One seems to "link", but the other is unresponsive. 00:23 < catbeard> hoo man 00:23 < admiralspark> hmmmmmm 00:23 < squealingcode> What's really frustrating is that the network card seems to only show up as "eth2", even though it has two connectors. 00:23 < catbeard> switching redis to allkeys-lru from volatile-lru 00:24 < catbeard> what a difference 00:24 < admiralspark> squealingcode: can you check dmesg for the link coming up? Sounds like one side isn't loading properly 00:24 < squealingcode> lol idk, I am kinda new to this. only been working with CATx before 00:24 < squealingcode> sure 00:24 < admiralspark> catbeard: good difference? 00:24 < admiralspark> squealingcode: you good man. ifconfig -a should show them all 00:24 < admiralspark> ifconfig will only show active iirc? 00:24 < admiralspark> you might have one side admin down, is my thinking 00:25 < squealingcode> Ok, so dmesg seems to say "link up" 00:25 < admiralspark> also I'm assuming you have net-tools installed 00:25 < admiralspark> hmm 00:25 < squealingcode> At least on my end, I'll check the server now 00:26 < admiralspark> without seeing it in person, I'm not sure squealingcode 00:27 < admiralspark> squealingcode: people online are saying "if it doesn't work, reboot the servers, sometimes they don't hotswap properly" 00:29 < admiralspark> is that opposed to differently abled bacon? 00:29 < squealingcode> OK, so afaik it seems like the link goes down like a few milliseconds after it comes up, on the server side. 00:29 < admiralspark> interesting 00:30 < admiralspark> and rebootski? 00:30 < squealingcode> No result, unfortunately:( 00:30 < squealingcode> I can see in dmesg that during boot the link is marked as "not ready", then "link up" and then "link down" - about half a second apart. 00:31 < Alternity> wow damn the animation is so good in code geass.... 00:32 < Alternity> you forget how small the budgets for shows has become 00:44 < admiralspark> uh oh 00:44 < admiralspark> MillerBoss went to an alternate ego 00:44 < MillerBOSS> All fixed 00:45 < MillerBOSS> Just got a quote for some Forigates Wow 00:45 < MillerBOSS> Looks I need to shop around 00:53 <+giant_it_burrit> MillerBOSS: try the one on sysadmin 00:53 < MillerBOSS> What am I trying where? 00:54 < Atusid> MillerBOSS: "Am I getting fucked Friday" 00:55 <+giant_it_burrit> ^ 00:57 < MillerBOSS> I am comparing to http://www.avfirewalls.com/ to start 00:57 < MillerBOSS> And I am shocked at a VM license. I want to replace some pfSense installs I have 00:58 < MillerBOSS> Fortinet FortiGate Virtual Appliance - 1 CPU 00:58 < MillerBOSS> Fortinet FortiGate Virtual Appliance - License - 1 Virtual CPU 4 VMWAREESX+ESXIPLATFORMS 00:58 < MillerBOSS> $3,464.36 00:58 < MillerBOSS> Not sure what the 4 means there 00:58 <+giant_it_burrit> maybe its for 00:58 <+giant_it_burrit> and theymade it clean 00:59 < admiralspark> MillerBOSS: Are you looking for virtual appliances to replace a virtual pfsense install? 01:07 < m4221> Hello nerds 01:15 < MillerBOSS> I just talked to a dude at that website above. He said he can save me more. So I will shop this around. I don't think the local reseller is fucking me. He said Ingram micro won't budge on bulk pricing. 01:16 < MillerBOSS> I am looking at 8 30Es and 1 100E and 2 VM licenses to replace pfSense 01:16 < MillerBOSS> Plus all the bells and whistles ForiCloud, ForiManager, etc 01:17 < sideup66> I'm wondering 01:17 < genr8_> whats good about those typa devices vs pfsense ? 01:18 < admiralspark> MillerBOSS: dude....you gotta shop around 01:18 < sideup66> What do you need to see if you have that stupid Russian malware in your router 01:18 < admiralspark> we get wicket Fortigate deals 01:18 < admiralspark> wicked* 01:18 < MillerBOSS> Local reseller 100E $2,922.24 avfirewalls.com $2,285.00 01:18 < sideup66> Ie I'm dd-wrt, so if I ssh in, will there be a process running? File somewhere? Etc 01:18 < admiralspark> sideup66: did you see the link earlier? 01:18 < MillerBOSS> I don't blame local reseller though but yeah you are right admiralspark 01:18 < admiralspark> symantec has one page with everything on it 01:18 < sideup66> No? 01:19 < admiralspark> https://www.symantec.com/blogs/threat-intelligence/vpnfilter-iot-malware 01:19 < MillerBOSS> genr8_ 👉 I use and love pfSense but I'm willing to pay for services that I do not have to set up, learn, and manage. Time is money 01:20 < admiralspark> ^^ 01:20 < admiralspark> I run pfsense at home on an sg-3100 because I can set it once and forget it for what I do 01:21 < MillerBOSS> https://hn.algolia.com/?query=vpnfilter&sort=byPopularity&prefix&page=0&dateRange=all&type=story 01:21 < brucevein> do any of yall own a dell vrtx 01:21 < sideup66> Hmmm 01:21 < brucevein> i think i really want one 01:22 < brucevein> my dell rep is going to get me a refurb one for home 01:22 < sideup66> admiralspark: looks like doesn't tell me process info 01:22 < brucevein> someone change my mind 01:22 < brucevein> please 01:22 < sideup66> Though I'd expect a process to be running 01:22 < MillerBOSS> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17144693 01:22 < sideup66> Honestly my router should be okay as it uses modern dd wrt builds which are pretty up to date 01:22 < sideup66> My modem could be another story, it has firmware :( 01:23 < admiralspark> it doesn't use a zero day sideup66 , it's re-using previous exploits and then basically infecting it at a low level. You won't see the processes without a kernel trace 01:23 < sideup66> And I have no clue nor can flash that, other that reset whatever little settings it has 01:23 < admiralspark> brucevein: why? 01:23 < sideup66> Hmmm so how do I know if the box is infected or not 01:23 < sideup66> Just assume everything is? 01:23 < adhocadhoc> wasn't there a list of identified equipment? 01:23 < admiralspark> sideup66: is your shit patched? 01:24 < admiralspark> if yes, you dont worry. If no, you reboot it, patch it, then you're not having to worry 01:24 < admiralspark> it's in the page I linked 01:24 < admiralspark> specifically says 01:24 < admiralspark> to mitigate this 01:24 < admiralspark> reboot 01:24 < MillerBOSS> According to the last link FBI has seized C&C server 01:24 < admiralspark> and then flash new firmware so stage 2/3 cant infect 01:24 < MillerBOSS> servers* 01:25 < MillerBOSS> Not saying there won't be set up by the same or other people 01:25 < sideup66> Oh 01:25 < sideup66> Fair point 01:25 < MillerBOSS> Thats kinda of interesting. FBI has control over C&C servers that essentially has access to your shit off you are hacked 01:25 < MillerBOSS> if* 01:25 < admiralspark> Sooooooo the NSA ;) 01:25 < sideup66> And yeah dd wrt is actually pretty good about regular patches 01:26 < admiralspark> yeah, I think it's mostly factory stuff to be concerned about 01:26 < MillerBOSS> https://blog.talosintelligence.com/2018/05/VPNFilter.html 01:26 < sideup66> So just my modem 01:26 < sideup66> Which hasn't seen an ypdate 01:26 < sideup66> And Comcast hasn't given one in some time 01:26 < sideup66> Lol 01:26 < MillerBOSS> Known Affected Devices listed plus hashes and IPs 01:27 < sideup66> And sadly can't be custom flashed with dd wrt or similar afaik 01:27 < sideup66> Oh god 01:27 < sideup66> It's got a banner 01:27 < sideup66> It's bad 01:27 < MillerBOSS> See snort I am sure it isn't hard but I rather just set up some service on pfSense then learn that and have to up keep it 01:28 < admiralspark> is it ascii art?? 01:28 < admiralspark> MillerBOSS: snort runs great on pfsense ;) 01:28 < MillerBOSS> Yeah I am sure. I messed with it but I would rather pay for something 01:28 < MillerBOSS> And use my time playing Factorio instead 01:28 < MillerBOSS> KIDDING!! 01:28 < admiralspark> hah! 01:28 < admiralspark> so 01:28 < admiralspark> tbh 01:29 < sideup66> Thankfully I'm smart enough to not have default creds 01:29 < admiralspark> The fortinet IPS and malware scanning/DPI is really, really good 01:29 < admiralspark> I say this coming from being a Cisco admin for years 01:29 < sideup66> And did make sure it didn't have that stupid web exploit Netgear routers had through the web server 01:29 < admiralspark> cisco is way behind 01:29 < admiralspark> I'd say Fortinet is right behind only Palo Alto 01:29 < MillerBOSS> I have a few virtual environments that are set up as DBAs so its as if its a physical location in a sense but its all RDS for employees. 01:30 < MillerBOSS> Well I may hit you up regarding Forinet shit once I get it installed. 01:34 < sideup66> admiralspark: thankfully my maintenance regimen on the border hardware is to reboot it during maintenance (do it with my server really) 01:34 < sideup66> Which is once every 3 months, unless updates to the router come sooner 01:38 < Casteil> woohoo 01:38 < Casteil> mowed the yard.. floated in my pool for an hour 01:38 < admiralspark> sideup66: I thought you were talking about your homelab, you mean work!? 01:38 < MillerBOSS> Casteil 👉 What state are you in? 01:39 < sideup66> admiralspark: I am talking about my home enviroment, work is a bank, I hope they look after this stuff lol 01:39 < admiralspark> ohhhhhhhhh 01:39 < sideup66> I have dd wrt at home, which is what it uses 01:39 < Casteil> MillerBOSS: Michigan 01:39 < MillerBOSS> Gonna be nice weather this weekend eh 01:39 < sideup66> And reading that research article you can look in the crontab for evidence of it running 01:39 < MillerBOSS> 90s 01:39 < Casteil> pool water is still fairly cool but it's 10 degrees warmer than the last time I jumped in :P 01:39 < Casteil> and yeah, mid-high 80s for the foreseeable future last I looked 01:39 < sideup66> Won't show in my webif because that reads nvram values, but would show in ssh 01:39 < MillerBOSS> I am in Wisconsin Casteil 01:40 < Casteil> wot u doin there m8? 01:40 < MillerBOSS> What? 01:41 < Casteil> (why are you in wisconsin) 01:41 < MillerBOSS> Because this is where I live 01:41 < MillerBOSS> Ya know? 01:41 < Casteil> but whyyy 01:41 < Casteil> lol, I'm just kidding 01:41 < Casteil> nothing wrong with cheese 01:41 <@JollyRgrs> looking for advice from non-charcoal/smoker peoples... should i consider an infrared grill? 01:42 < admiralspark> esp squeaky cheese curds 01:42 < admiralspark> mmmm 01:42 < Casteil> JollyRgrs: what's the goal? :P 01:42 <@JollyRgrs> good food? 01:42 < admiralspark> get something that makes smoke then 01:42 < MillerBOSS> Are you in da UP or lower Casteil 01:42 < Casteil> MillerBOSS: SW MI 01:42 < admiralspark> otherwise you're pan frying with a grill pattern with an infra ;) 01:43 < sideup66> admiralspark: I like that research page 01:43 < sideup66> Now know in dd wrt where to look 01:43 < Casteil> JollyRgrs: proper chips + propane or charcoal can yield great results 01:44 <@JollyRgrs> i'm not lookin for smoke (hence my opening comment) 01:44 < Casteil> you can get little "smoker" boxes for grills 01:44 <@JollyRgrs> i just plain propane right now with std open gas burners 01:44 < Casteil> good food? 01:44 < Casteil> i'm not lookin for smoke (hence my opening comment) 01:44 < Casteil> choose one 01:44 < Casteil> :P 01:44 <@JollyRgrs> i'm looking to grill food, not smoke food 01:45 < Casteil> I'm just saying you can get great grilling results by using some wood chips even on a propane grill 01:45 <@JollyRgrs> i understand that 01:45 <@JollyRgrs> that's not my primary desire though 01:47 < Casteil> fwiw I think infrared grills are somewhat gimmicky 01:47 <@JollyRgrs> i thought that at first... 01:47 <@JollyRgrs> but i do like the quick to temp and ability to be very even 01:49 * Casteil just bought a smoker :P 01:49 <@JollyRgrs> i know ppl like smokers and that's great. i love smoked food... but generally, i don't have the luxery of time to smoke 01:50 <@JollyRgrs> but i'm tired of hot/not-so-hot zones in my grill 01:51 <@JollyRgrs> also can i pls jsut get ONE grill with some "outdoor" wheels on it? 01:51 <@JollyRgrs> i wanna roll it off of my porch and out into the middle of the yard 01:51 <@JollyRgrs> but don't wanna keep it out there 01:51 <@JollyRgrs> all these grills only have like office chair wheels 01:56 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, yeap its so stupid eh 01:57 <@cryptic1> they are meant to be used outdoors 01:57 <@JollyRgrs> yup 01:57 <@cryptic1> don't put small little cheap indoor cabinet wheels on them 01:59 <@cryptic1> oh there is a small microscopic stone yeah i am going to get stuck on that 01:59 <@JollyRgrs> oops, a small gopher bump in the dirt 01:59 <@JollyRgrs> dang, now i'm stuck 02:04 < GrandpaRick> hey guys 02:04 <@cryptic1> GrandpaRick, there you go 02:04 < GrandpaRick> I know its not exactly server-related but do you know how bad virtualization overhead is? (KVM) 02:05 < DLSteve> ugg, GDPR is screwy. 02:05 <@JollyRgrs> you know this is a sysadmin channel, right GrandpaRick? we handle more than just bare servers :P 02:05 < MillerBOSS> Overhead on what exactly? CPU, RAM, I/O? 02:05 < MillerBOSS> etc 02:05 <@JollyRgrs> KVM has pretty low overhead, I use it at home,but know that you are still running a full OS underneath it 02:06 < GrandpaRick> I'm trying to see how badly a rig with 16GB RAM, Ryzen 5 1600(6c12t @ 3.7 OC), (soft limit 8GB RAM/3c6t) would fare in gaming 02:06 < DLSteve> Hypervisor overhead is actually very minimal. 02:06 < MillerBOSS> People do it in unRAID for sure I know of with little issue 02:06 < GrandpaRick> in theory it would be 20% better than a ryzen 3 1200, with 8GB RAM, but I'm not sure how VM overhead effects it 02:07 < GrandpaRick> trying to basically do 2 gamers 1 PC(I have an RX 580 + 1070 ti) 02:07 <@JollyRgrs> KVM would be a better choice for trying to do pci passthrough for your vidya card 02:07 <@JollyRgrs> oh geez 02:07 <@JollyRgrs> GrandpaRick: is your real name linus? 02:08 < MillerBOSS> Yeah exactly here GrandpaRick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuJYMCbIbPk they use unRAID here 02:08 < GrandpaRick> the RAM is 3200Mhz so that I'm thinking shouldn't bottleneck 02:08 < GrandpaRick> and no LOL 02:08 <@JollyRgrs> GrandpaRick: thank goodness 02:08 < GrandpaRick> i'm not a living meme 02:08 < GrandpaRick> lol 02:08 < MillerBOSS> If I were you I'd try it to really know 02:09 < MillerBOSS> You don't have to use unRAID here though 02:09 < GrandpaRick> @MillerBOSS trying not to, cause I currently have a ebay listing up for the RX 580, and if I open it and it runs badly I just got ****ed both ways 02:09 < GrandpaRick> If it works for my intentions though I would take down the ebay listing cause its worth it 02:10 < MillerBOSS> Well you only live once :P 02:10 < GrandpaRick> do you think VM overhead would be more than 20%? 02:10 < MillerBOSS> VM overhead or hypervisor overhead 02:10 < GrandpaRick> full system overhead 02:11 < MillerBOSS> What do you mean, that doesn't make sense 02:11 < GrandpaRick> sorry lol 02:11 < MillerBOSS> Its OK 02:11 < MillerBOSS> You are learning 02:11 < GrandpaRick> like in theory my ryzen 1600 is 20% faster than a ryzen 1200 02:11 < GrandpaRick> actually faster 02:11 < GrandpaRick> but nevertheless 02:11 <@JollyRgrs> how does that math work? 02:11 <@JollyRgrs> just curious 02:12 < GrandpaRick> ryzen 1200 is 4c4t @ 3.1Ghz, the VM would be 3c6t @ 3.7Ghz 02:12 < ned0> no win7 downloads from MS without retail keys? what the hell team 02:12 < MillerBOSS> Also you are talking CPU, I doubt there will be anything maxing out the CPU 02:12 < GrandpaRick> and they are on the same arch 02:13 < GrandpaRick> my 20% came from 8t @ 3.1, divided by 3.7 which would give me 5.02 02:13 < GrandpaRick> I have 6t in the VM 02:13 < MillerBOSS> ned0 👉 Does this still work http://www.techfleece.com/2015/12/23/download-official-isos-of-windows-7-windows-8-1-or-windows-10-legally-and-for-free/ I had this bookmarked 02:13 < GrandpaRick> so it would be 20% higher 02:13 < MillerBOSS> I think you may be over complicating things GrandpaRick 02:13 < MillerBOSS> :) 02:13 <@JollyRgrs> if it links to digitalriver, i don't think those links work anymore 02:13 < GrandpaRick> maybe :P 02:13 <@JollyRgrs> lol 02:13 < GrandpaRick> but nevertheless 02:14 < GrandpaRick> do you think the VM overhead would be more than that 20+%? 02:14 < GrandpaRick> on the CPU side 02:14 <@JollyRgrs> VM overhead more than 20% would be catastrophic to any hypervisor 02:14 <@JollyRgrs> what hypervisor do you know of that even comes close to that? 02:15 < GrandpaRick> even with a ryzen CPU? 02:15 < MillerBOSS> Like I said the hypervisor (the base OS) and the VMs are not going to be running the CPU "hot" at all times 02:15 < MillerBOSS> It will share 02:15 < GrandpaRick> well thats good to know 02:16 < GrandpaRick> so the 3c6t soft limit, allowing spikes to 6c12t depending on usage of the VMs would work on the CPU side 02:16 < GrandpaRick> I have 3200Mhz RAM and 16GB, so I'm thinking that wouldn't be a bottleneck? 02:17 < MillerBOSS> https://serverfault.com/questions/313333/kvm-and-virtual-to-physical-cpu-mapping 02:17 < GrandpaRick> disk and network would probably be the hardest hit 02:17 < MillerBOSS> I feel the thing you should only be concerned of is disk I/O 02:18 < MillerBOSS> As long as you are using SSD and SATA 3 or flash direct to board you will be fine 02:19 < catbeard> the last time i flashed my bios i got handcuffed 02:19 < MillerBOSS> If you are using hard disks expect shit to appear slow 02:20 < GrandpaRick> @MillerBOSS, I have a 3TB HDD where I store games, and a 240GB SSD for the OS 02:20 < GrandpaRick> probably gonna end up using block cache on that as well 02:20 < MillerBOSS> OK that should be good. You'll have to test and all and tweak things maybe 02:21 < MillerBOSS> But if its between one or the other of the CPUs you have I don't think you will notice much of a difference 02:21 < GrandpaRick> so a 240GB 860 EVO SSD as a block cache, with a 3TB HDD 02:21 < GrandpaRick> 16GB RAM 02:22 < GrandpaRick> and a 1070 Ti, and a RX 580 02:22 < MillerBOSS> I am not familiar with the term block cache 02:22 < GrandpaRick> you know what a cache is obviously 02:23 < GrandpaRick> each file is split into blocks 02:23 < GrandpaRick> generally 4K but can be any size 02:23 < MillerBOSS> OK 02:24 < GrandpaRick> depending on the popularity of the blocks, you cache those blocks on the SSD 02:24 < MillerBOSS> What is taking care of this KVM? 02:24 < GrandpaRick> so the most popular blocks are stored on the SSD 02:24 < MillerBOSS> The hypervisor 02:24 < MillerBOSS> ? 02:24 < GrandpaRick> nah its on linux though 02:24 < GrandpaRick> it goes by many names 02:24 < GrandpaRick> flashcache/bcache 02:24 < GrandpaRick> etc 02:24 < MillerBOSS> Oh similar to Fusion Drive for macOS 02:25 < GrandpaRick> I thought Fusion Drive was just a hybrid hard drive 02:25 < GrandpaRick> but similar anyway yes 02:25 < MillerBOSS> Fusion Drive is a hard disk and flash/ssd 02:25 < GrandpaRick> then yeah probably 02:26 < MillerBOSS> Apple's implementation combines a hard disk drive with a NAND flash storage (solid-state drive of 24 GB or more) and presents it as a single Core Storage managed logical volume with the space of both drives combined 02:26 < GrandpaRick> also one of the most important things is 02:26 < MillerBOSS> So pretty much what you are doing 02:26 < GrandpaRick> you leave sequential workloads to the HDD 02:26 < GrandpaRick> and leave the random workloads to the SSD 02:26 < GrandpaRick> where the SSD is actually efficient 02:26 < MillerBOSS> Interesting 02:27 < MillerBOSS> I then worry about what data is where if one of the devices fails 02:27 < GrandpaRick> so what do you think about the overhead of DMA, syscalls, and network IPC? 02:27 < MillerBOSS> My opinion, too small to care about 02:27 < GrandpaRick> and its pretty much all games which would be stored online(MMOs) or stored in Steam anyway 02:27 < MillerBOSS> But I am no pro 02:28 < ned0> MillerBOSS this looks sketchy as hell but I tried it anyways, sadly win7 pro "file is not available for download" 02:28 < ned0> thanks for the lead though 02:29 < MillerBOSS> It looks sketchy but its by https://twitter.com/WZorNET and he is well known 02:29 < MillerBOSS> Do you need an ISO of 7? I can help ned0 02:29 < MillerBOSS> What version do you need 02:29 < ned0> pro x64 english 02:29 < MillerBOSS> https://archive.org/details/en_windows_7_professional_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_676939_201612 02:29 < MillerBOSS> :) 02:30 < ned0> i tried just throwing win10 on this old laptop to see if I could still get the free upgrade 02:30 < ned0> but I couldn't 02:30 < MillerBOSS> Make sure to check the hash 0bcfc54019ea175b1ee51f6d2b207a3d14dd2b58 SHA1 with http://implbits.com/products/hashtab/ or the like 02:31 < ned0> thanks MillerBOSS! 02:31 < MillerBOSS> Also https://mirror.corenoc.de/digitalrivercontent.net/ 02:31 < MillerBOSS> Or just Google the hash and verify the file's hash when its downlaoded 02:31 < MillerBOSS> Also I will get you something else for that one sec 02:32 < MillerBOSS> Follow this https://superuser.com/questions/951960/windows-7-sp1-windows-update-stuck-checking-for-updates 02:32 < MillerBOSS> Else your updates from a fresh SP1 install will take days and shit loads of reboots 02:33 < MillerBOSS> So download those updates a head of time, put em on a flash drive and install em after the OS installed then updates will go nice and fast 02:34 < MillerBOSS> They should have just made a SP2 but I think Microsoft wanted to get away from calling things Services Packs for some reason. 02:35 < brucevein> man, im not a big fan of the ubiquiti router os 02:36 < ned0> nice! thank you 02:36 < MillerBOSS> You are welcome ned0 02:37 < MillerBOSS> Just make sure to verify your file's hashes though 02:37 < MillerBOSS> So you know they are legit 02:38 < brucevein> hmm 02:38 < brucevein> so im curious, do any of you guys have an edgerouter x? 02:38 < MillerBOSS> I got the switches but not routers 02:39 < Cronus> i looked at it, but decided im happier with mikrotik 02:39 < DLSteve> brucevein, Like at home? 02:40 < brucevein> DLSteve, yeah 02:40 < brucevein> i just picked up a 3560 for my home lab 02:40 < brucevein> and ive got the kids shit on their own vlan 02:41 < brucevein> i want to route between those vlans using the edgerouter 02:41 < DLSteve> brucevein, Ah yah... I'm using the shit one Comcast gave me lol. 02:41 < brucevein> so i can allow the dc on their network to talk to mine 02:41 < genr8_> dont use the comcast shit 02:42 < MillerBOSS> ned0 👉 One more thing I would say is for you not to believe me that that is the correct hash but to verify that is the correct hash on some Microsoft website. Such as https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_install/hash-codes-for-x64/d5c97e9a-2c08-4b16-a1c8-13f6808db5cb?messageId=0c8ea9e6-eb4b-4a18-b034-fd56ab7300d9 02:44 * ned0 trusts in MillerBOSS 02:44 < MillerBOSS> DLSteve 👉 You brought up GDPR earlier. Did you see https://www.techmeme.com/180525/p4#a180525p4 02:45 < GrandpaRick> does anybody else see a problem with the setup im trying to run? 02:45 < DLSteve> MillerBOSS, Yah I saw that lol. 02:45 < MillerBOSS> I see their point though, "forced consent". 02:45 < DLSteve> I'm mixed on it. 02:46 < MillerBOSS> I don't know enough but I shitpost on it though. :P 02:46 < DLSteve> Doing controls to the granular level that they want might not be feasible. 02:46 < MillerBOSS> I don't like gov getting involved. 02:46 < MillerBOSS> In this regard 02:46 < DLSteve> Honestly if I was mainly US based site right now I would just flat out black list the EU. 02:46 < misspwn> i left my wallet at work :( 02:47 < MillerBOSS> What is it that you have to worry about DLSteve? 02:47 < MillerBOSS> Do you have an ecomm site or services website? 02:47 < DLSteve> My company does. 02:48 < DLSteve> I was talking in general. 02:48 < MillerBOSS> Right 02:48 < DLSteve> My company operates stores in the EU so we have no choice lol. 02:48 < MillerBOSS> I am willing to bet it will be all about the "big guys" for some time right? 02:50 < DLSteve> we can be considered one of the "Big Guys". We all into the 4% or global revenue as a 20million euro fine is peanuts. 02:50 < DLSteve> *fall 02:50 < MillerBOSS> Oh I see. 02:51 < GrandpaRick> is unraid the best way to setup a linux KVM environment? 02:52 < DLSteve> I work right next to the compliance guys as we have had about 40 people dedicated to this for the past 18 months lol. 02:52 < MillerBOSS> I don't agree with having a website available to people in a country being doing business in that country. The Internet makes that happen 02:52 < MillerBOSS> Its a preference GrandpaRick 02:52 < DLSteve> I'm just trying to figure out how the right to be forgotten works for current employees. 02:53 < DLSteve> As I see that as an option on our UK website. 02:53 < MillerBOSS> Wow that is another thing that must not be fun 02:54 < MillerBOSS> And you could argue UK not being apart of all that as they won't be part of the EU soon 02:54 < MillerBOSS> But technically is at this time 02:54 < MillerBOSS> Right? 02:54 < DLSteve> right 02:54 < DLSteve> From what we know they will keep or have a law very similar to GDPR. 02:54 < MillerBOSS> I like UK's style on it. Again I am hardly up on all the facts but the EU seems like a union or like the mafia 02:55 < MillerBOSS> Have to, says who? 02:56 < DLSteve> I'm not against GDPR, I just think it's crazy to give such short notice for such a massive change and then have super steep fines attached. Big companies can deal with it but it's going to kill all the small sites. Just linking YouTube videos without a consent notice now violates GDPR... 02:59 < MillerBOSS> https://www.zdnet.com/article/icann-makes-last-minute-whois-changes-to-address-gdpr-requirements/ 02:59 < MillerBOSS> > ICANN is trying at the 11th hour to make the Domain Name System and WHOIS legal under the GDPR. Good luck with that. 03:00 < DLSteve> ICANN should be exempt imo. 03:00 < MillerBOSS> Sure but where do you draw the line 03:02 < DLSteve> case by case basis imo. 03:03 < DLSteve> There should not be that many exemptions. 03:05 < sideup66> looks like my router is clean 03:05 < sideup66> that is good 03:05 < sideup66> no russian malware here 03:05 < sideup66> :) 03:12 < genr8_> god damned russians 03:13 <+TuxedoJack> And, of course, pfSenses are immune to that 03:13 <+TuxedoJack> I wonder... 03:13 <+TuxedoJack> pfSense pfSense pfSense! 03:14 <+TuxedoJack> ... huh, hje's buggered off 03:15 < Church-> Heya Jack 03:15 < Church-> What's up squires? 03:16 < MillerBOSS> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/05/fbi-tells-router-users-to-reboot-now-to-kill-malware-infecting-500k-devices/ 03:16 <+TuxedoJack> Finishing up IPSEC tunnels to oil wells, then going to get stoned for a bit before I pick the better half up from ABIA 03:16 < Nightcinder> you guys see google/facebook already facing a GPDR lawsuit? 03:16 <+TuxedoJack> Then off to College Station for the weekend for cigars and drinks 03:16 < Nightcinder> because of 'forced consent' 03:17 < MillerBOSS> Yeah. Many articles and tweets on it here https://www.techmeme.com/180525/p4#a180525p4 Nightcinder 03:17 < Nightcinder> i mean it seems like a thing you can do 03:17 < Nightcinder> not sure what you can say against it 03:17 < MillerBOSS> view-source:http://toknowall.com/ OK it says 03:21 < MillerBOSS> Wow that youtube presentation on this page is eye opening https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/05/russian-unit-gru-officer-linked-to-2014-shoot-down-of-airliner-over-ukraine/ 03:22 < MillerBOSS> I still ask what do the Russians have to gain from all their shit they are doing? NWO, I doubt that would happen 03:32 < MillerBOSS> The reconstruction of the airplane really helps, wow. As shown in the video 03:41 < MillerBOSS> I wonder why "black boxes" are not sending their data real time to satellites. 03:45 < Nightcinder> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/05/essential-cancels-its-next-smartphone-future-of-the-company-in-doubt/ 03:45 < Nightcinder> shocking 03:51 < MillerBOSS> And maybe Amazon to buy. Interesting there 04:05 < MillerBOSS> NeXT, Apple, iPad, Palm, HP, and now Amazon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Rubinstein 04:07 < MillerBOSS> And Fadell doing "other" things https://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyolson/2018/05/09/ipod-apple-tony-fadell-france-macron/#6e3282d035c3 04:08 < Hunterkll> MillerBOSS, reliable transmission 04:08 < MillerBOSS> And Forstall I think isn't doing much nowadays but this is a good watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjR2vegUBAo Interview: Scott Forstall and Original iPhone Innovators @ Computer History Museum 04:08 < MillerBOSS> Apple shouldn't have let him go. 04:08 < Hunterkll> MillerBOSS, in fact, over trans-pacific flights, you'll often find that aircraft have NO radio contact for part of the flight except for VERY slow HF transmission to ATC anywhere 04:08 < MillerBOSS> Oh good point Hunterkll 04:09 < Hunterkll> and that very slow HF radio can sometimes be text only, almost liek a sub's VLF 04:09 < Hunterkll> except slightly better 04:09 < Hunterkll> and then *which* satellite network do you use? 04:09 < Hunterkll> etc etc 04:10 < MillerBOSS> Makes sense 04:11 < Hunterkll> ya, i've done a bit of my ground time 04:11 < Hunterkll> there's a good period of time where you're basically out of communication effectively 04:11 < Hunterkll> it's slowly closing 04:11 < Hunterkll> but trans-oceanic flights do have some periods of time with effective radio silence ... and then again, there's that whole 'which network' thing 04:12 < Hunterkll> it's not like they can use the military commsat network :D 04:12 < Hunterkll> (and even that network is fucking spotty requiring fucking holding a dish at the right place and fucking star charts and shit) 04:15 < MillerBOSS> Looks like you researched that one a few times. 04:15 < Hunterkll> was instructed, more like 04:15 < Hunterkll> there's also bandwidth issues too 04:15 < Hunterkll> like say, let's say you pick a sat net 04:15 < Hunterkll> well, look at satellite internet 04:15 < Hunterkll> often the upstream is dialup landline 04:16 < Hunterkll> and the downstream is transmitted from a base station somewhere else 04:18 < MillerBOSS> Well with the balloons they are starting to use maybe that will help? 04:19 < Hunterkll> who's starting to use those seriously in any type of commercial capacity? 04:19 < Hunterkll> lol 04:19 < MillerBOSS> I don't know 04:19 < Hunterkll> no one 04:19 < Hunterkll> it's great for small scenarios but not long term shit 04:19 < MillerBOSS> But you gotta start somewhere 04:19 < Hunterkll> LEO satellites might be better 04:20 < MillerBOSS> I wonder if its possible to use airplanes as the piece of a mesh network kind of thing as there are so many in the air 04:21 < Hunterkll> MillerBOSS, that'd require an unbelievable level of international cooperation among other things 04:21 < Hunterkll> mandatory equipment in over a hundred countries 04:21 < Hunterkll> compatible ATC systems worldwide 04:21 < Hunterkll> etc 04:22 < Hunterkll> it's a great idea 04:22 < MillerBOSS> Sure. I am just thinking of https://flightaware.com/live/ can be done why not there means of transferring data 04:22 < Hunterkll> but there's a reason aviation radio is on basic AM radio with english as the predominant language 04:22 < Hunterkll> MillerBOSS, a lot of that is pre-existing flight plan data and - line of sight tower telemetry 04:23 < MillerBOSS> What do you mean here line of sight tower telemetry 04:23 < rpifan> hello 04:23 < Hunterkll> MillerBOSS, like, the plane sends ATIS data back 04:23 < Hunterkll> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_terminal_information_service 04:23 < Hunterkll> er 04:24 < Hunterkll> not that 04:24 < Hunterkll> but another one 04:24 < Hunterkll> MillerBOSS, the national ATC system is providing the data to flightaware 04:24 < Hunterkll> from data collected by ATC towers 04:24 < Hunterkll> not by the planes themselves 04:24 < Hunterkll> once you lose radio contact, it does best-guess estimation 04:24 < Hunterkll> dead reconing 04:24 < Hunterkll> ADS data, taht's it 04:25 < MillerBOSS> I see I did not know that. I assumed that data was live 04:25 < Hunterkll> it is 04:25 < Hunterkll> aircraft transmit their data over the air 04:25 < Hunterkll> you can build an ADS-B receiver 04:25 < Hunterkll> MillerBOSS, https://flightaware.com/adsb/coverage 04:25 < MillerBOSS> Over the air using what means? 04:25 < Hunterkll> radio 04:25 < Hunterkll> that's where flight aware can receive real-time ADS-B data 04:26 < Hunterkll> that's how it generates its data 04:27 < MillerBOSS> So FlightAware ADS-B Coverage Map are devices people have set up along with official devices? 04:27 < Hunterkll> a multitude of sources, but the real time data is from ATC sources, and ADS-B receivers 04:28 < MillerBOSS> I am just thinking when you go from US to Japan for example where there isn't shit on the ground 04:28 < MillerBOSS> Except the sea 04:28 < Hunterkll> dead reckoning via the flight plan and last known data 04:28 < MillerBOSS> https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-05-25-21-28-35-7M.png 04:29 < Hunterkll> MillerBOSS, you can add to the flightaware network! - https://flightaware.com/adsb/flightfeeder/ 04:30 < MillerBOSS> Wow that is cool https://flightaware.com/adsb/request 04:30 < Hunterkll> but there's also a large network of professionally operated ADS-B sites they partner with or buy data from 04:31 < Hunterkll> MillerBOSS, build your own :P https://flightaware.com/adsb/piaware/build 04:32 < Hunterkll> you get extra features on your flightaware account for operating a station 04:32 < MillerBOSS> Yeah I saw that. Thats kinda cool especially with eh freebies they give 04:32 < Hunterkll> AHHHHH 04:32 < Hunterkll> I FORGOT ABOUT THE 2016 DEAL 04:32 < Hunterkll> after the maylasian incident 04:32 < Hunterkll> MillerBOSS, while blackbox data is high bandwidth and there's a shitload of planes to handle 04:33 < Hunterkll> think of it as like, cable or DSL bandwidth 04:33 < Hunterkll> ADS-B telemetry is like, 1200 baud 04:33 < Hunterkll> which makes it easier to pick up with satellites, especially without modifying equipment 04:33 < Hunterkll> https://flightaware.com/aireon/ <--- 04:33 < Hunterkll> they use satellites to pick up ADS-B data for international flights now 04:33 < Hunterkll> that's relatively new (deal was struck in 2016) 04:34 < Hunterkll> https://globalbeacon.aero/ 04:34 < Hunterkll> https://aireon.com/resources/technical-overview/<-- the important bit 04:34 < Hunterkll> though, it looks llike you might have to pay for that 04:34 < Hunterkll> and it might still use dead reckoning for the regular website system 04:36 < MillerBOSS> Would be nice to know the parts list for https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-05-25-21-36-18-NV.png at https://youtu.be/4KKKh0gljz0?t=55 04:37 < Hunterkll> MillerBOSS, llooks like a pi with an LCD screen and a USB dongle - the fllightaware stick maybe or a tv stick used as an SDR 04:37 < MillerBOSS> flightfeeder orange 04:37 < Hunterkll> not very many parts tbh 04:37 < rpifan> was gonna buy one of those 04:37 < Hunterkll> LOL WTF 04:37 < Hunterkll> the flightfeeder is just a pi in a box 04:37 < Hunterkll> hahahahahhahahaaa 04:38 < MillerBOSS> https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/post-your-piaware-setup/17467 04:40 < Hunterkll> i'm applying for a flightfeeder 04:42 < MillerBOSS> Yeah you'd pick up a lot of shit by you 04:43 < MillerBOSS> But why are some of these guys running multiple https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/post-your-piaware-setup/17467/86 ? 04:45 < Hunterkll> maybe different data types or antenna pllacement 04:45 < Hunterkll> they might have 4 directional antennas 04:45 < Hunterkll> or an antenna on each corner of the house pointing out 04:45 < Hunterkll> or something 04:48 < MillerBOSS> I submitted one as well 04:48 < Hunterkll> why not 04:48 < Hunterkll> they expect you to run it 24/7 04:48 < Hunterkll> but that's fine 04:48 < Hunterkll> iit's not like i don't have UPSes on my entire network and am running dlink routers :P 04:48 < MillerBOSS> I'd run it here at work and put the antenna on the roof 04:48 < Hunterkll> oh yea that'd be perfect 04:51 < MillerBOSS> Looks like there are a handful in my area https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-05-25-21-50-58-9r.png 04:51 < Hunterkll> same for me but ya never know 04:51 < Hunterkll> those look like piaware anyway i thiunk from the color 04:52 < MillerBOSS> Oh yeah you are right 04:52 < MillerBOSS> Not many yellow ones at all 04:52 < Hunterkll> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL 04:52 < Hunterkll> https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/8m45k6/ghostery_have_exposed_everyones_email_address_in/ 04:53 < MillerBOSS> Wow 04:53 < MillerBOSS> We apologize 150% 04:53 < rpifan> i hope my business get sued for gdpr soon 04:53 < Hunterkll> MillerBOSS, ahahahahahaah reply all... ;) 04:53 < rpifan> how is it ocmplaint to send passwords in salesforce 04:54 < MillerBOSS> I am starting to picture rpifan as Milton. 04:54 < rpifan> whats milton 04:54 < Hunterkll> rpifan, counter-point, how is it not? 04:54 < rpifan> oh yea 04:54 < Hunterkll> password isn't PII/PHI 04:54 < rpifan> idk 04:54 < rpifan> oh good ol milton 04:55 < Hunterkll> lol 04:55 < rpifan> speaking of such things 04:56 < rpifan> i did my timsheets today 04:56 < rpifan> ended up with 6 hours of over time 04:56 < rpifan> submitted them to the boss 04:56 < rpifan> and she was like wait a second 04:56 < rpifan> why do you have so much over time.. 04:56 < Hunterkll> lol 04:58 < rpifan> i was kinda confused part of the problem is we have an hour lunch break prefactored inot our sheets and ive taking only half hour lunches 04:58 < rpifan> so in order to show that u have to do this huge mess where you split the day into two but then youo add an extra half hour to your start time 05:04 < Hunterkll> i just put 8 hours a day 05:04 < Hunterkll> fuck it 05:04 < Hunterkll> unlesse i do some like xtra xtra work or weekend work 05:04 < Hunterkll> salary bitches 05:04 < rpifan> well im hourly 05:04 < rpifan> so im trying to milk the overtime as much as i can 05:04 < rpifan> still after redoing the timesheet ended up with 3.5 overtime 05:04 < rpifan> hours 05:04 < Hunterkll> lol 05:05 < misspwn> math is hard 05:05 < rpifan> i worked from home for two days 05:05 < rpifan> and i put in an extra hour 05:05 < rpifan> cause the hour that it takes me to get to work 05:05 < rpifan> i can just work instead 05:05 < misspwn> they gotta approve that shit yo 05:05 < rpifan> meh 05:05 < rpifan> she didnt seem to mind 05:05 < misspwn> i have 4 or 5hrs of overtime this week but it was encouraged and approved 05:06 < rpifan> i also took half an hour lunch on tuesday wed and thursadya 05:06 < rpifan> u cant force me to take an entire hour 05:06 < rpifan> honestly i need 15 minutes lunch break tops 05:06 < rpifan> and that includes riding the elevator all te way 05:06 < rpifan> sitting on the building stairs and going to cvs to steal cocaine zero 05:06 < misspwn> they can force you to take your scheduled breaks lol 05:07 < rpifan> there not scheueld tho 05:07 < rpifan> its take it whenever u want to 05:07 < rpifan> in theory 05:07 < rpifan> i could not take a the break and leave earely 05:07 < misspwn> this come and go stuff though isn't going to fly 05:08 < rpifan> what u mena come adn go? 05:08 < misspwn> well you work an hour early and not leave an hour early with out an ok 05:08 < rpifan> actually 05:08 < rpifan> they are very flexible iwth time 05:09 < rpifan> one guy takes a lunch breka nad goes to the gym 05:09 < rpifan> but has to stay 05:09 < rpifan> the extra hour 05:09 < rpifan> i get to work at 9:45ish 05:09 < rpifan> other guy gets there at 10:30 05:09 < rpifan> et 05:09 < misspwn> to me it screams time management issues. if i need ot leave an hour earlier or come in an hour earlier to do so i usually give the heads up first 05:09 < rpifan> supposed to be flexible, i asked hr ppl 05:10 < rpifan> and they said they just trust their employees 05:10 < rpifan> honestly id rather have the adp machine thing 05:10 < rpifan> that why there cant be complaints 05:10 < rpifan> but here we do time sheets manually 05:10 < rpifan> i guess they could fire me for wokring too much lol 05:11 < misspwn> well they are legally required to pay you for time worked and probably will not be pleased about extra time and no clearing it 05:11 < rpifan> ive always ended up with an extra hour or so since i started 05:11 < misspwn> if i know i'm going to go over during the week i let my manager know and he'll tell me to go home early or come in late 05:12 < rpifan> well we really arent structured like that at all 05:12 < rpifan> ppl come nad go 05:12 < rpifan> the only requierement is that your manager know where to find u 05:12 < misspwn> eh i'm not sure it's an enforcable requirement, i just do it so they are aware 05:13 < rpifan> meh 05:13 < rpifan> i have asked my boss what is it that she needs from me 05:13 < rpifan> we have a one on one every week 05:13 < rpifan> and the last few times, i start with what can i do for u 05:13 < rpifan> what do you need from me 05:13 < rpifan> then i complain 05:14 <@cryptic1> UPDATES TO OUR PRIVACY POLICY 05:14 <@cryptic1> UPDATES TO OUR PRIVACY POLICY 05:14 <@cryptic1> UPDATES TO OUR PRIVACY POLICY 05:14 <@cryptic1> UPDATES TO OUR PRIVACY POLICY 05:14 <@cryptic1> UPDATES TO OUR PRIVACY POLICY 05:14 < rpifan> our privacy policy is 05:14 < rpifan> shhh 05:14 < rpifan> dont tell anyone 05:14 < rpifan> no joke 05:15 < rpifan> i was chatting with company ppl on slack and i said we need a pentester 05:15 < rpifan> and they were like please dont pentest our systems, we'll hvae to update our passwords to password1 05:17 < MillerBOSS> 👋 Hi! Please confirm your BitPay wallet update email preferences 05:17 < rpifan> 01011100001110001111 05:17 < MillerBOSS> Pietro from Fing 05:17 < MillerBOSS> Updates to our Privacy Policy  05:18 < MillerBOSS> Where is #reddit-sysadmin's update on the privacy policy, cryptic1? DTN 05:18 <@cryptic1> there is none 05:19 < rpifan> thye should have 05:19 <@cryptic1> reddit themselves have 05:19 < MillerBOSS> Some will file a complaint with EU. 05:19 <@cryptic1> they are all tracking you 05:19 <@cryptic1> right precise 05:19 < MillerBOSS> Good 05:20 <@cryptic1> precise, was really upset his pornhub viewing history was made public 05:20 < rpifan> i feel it frustrating that our new privacy policy at work, say you are not allowed ot have 3 party adds on your site 05:20 < rpifan> but they use google ads like crazy 05:20 <@cryptic1> thanks privacy policy update 05:20 < rpifan> they plaster them everwhere 05:20 < Hunterkll> here you go 05:20 < MillerBOSS> Ha ha 05:20 < Hunterkll> https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/8m4ssm/at_my_wits_end_with_virus_removal/dzlef5b 05:20 < Hunterkll> Finally 05:20 < Hunterkll> i put together the best "those $10 keys are fucking bunk you idiots" post yet 05:20 <@cryptic1> unlike Hunterkll who tweets his viewing history 05:21 < Hunterkll> what? I just set up IFTT to tweet each url you visit 05:21 < Hunterkll> IFTTT 05:21 <@cryptic1> yeah 05:22 < rpifan> u use ur reddit name on irc... 05:22 < rpifan> doxing 05:22 < rpifan> ban 05:22 <@cryptic1> BANT! 05:22 < Hunterkll> wut 05:22 < Hunterkll> rpifan, i use my irc name on reddit 05:22 < Hunterkll> reddit didn't /exist/ when i made this name 05:22 <@cryptic1> stop doxing 05:22 < rpifan> doxing is ilegal 05:22 < rpifan> ya dont dox urself 05:22 < Hunterkll> lol 05:22 < Hunterkll> HAH 05:22 < Hunterkll> YES 05:22 < Hunterkll> my FREENODE nick registration is older than reddit 05:22 < Hunterkll> hell, my steam account is allmost 2 years older than reddit 05:23 < Hunterkll> -NickServ- Information on Hunterkll (account Hunterkll): 05:23 < Hunterkll> -NickServ- Registered : Oct 24 01:42:19 2004 (13y 31w 0d ago) 05:24 < rpifan> 13 years wow 05:24 < rpifan> ur a teenager Hunterkll 05:25 < Hunterkll> lol A-KO's is from 2002 05:25 < Hunterkll> CRYPTIC1 IS A N00B 05:25 < Hunterkll> CRYPTIC1 IS A N00B 05:25 < Hunterkll> CRYPTIC1 IS A N00B 05:25 < Hunterkll> -NickServ- Information on cryptic1 (account cryptic1): 05:25 < Hunterkll> -NickServ- Registered : Aug 28 19:34:39 2013 (4y 38w 5d ago) 05:26 < MillerBOSS> I don't get it why people try to remove viruses instead of blowing away and start over. How can you trust everything is gone? 05:26 < MillerBOSS> s/N00B/BOOB 05:26 <@cryptic1> looks like i should prob ban Hunterkll for doxing himself 05:27 < binaryhermit> is that really against the rules? 05:27 <@cryptic1> yes 05:27 < Hunterkll> #1. no 05:27 <@cryptic1> all doxing is bant 05:27 < Hunterkll> #2. doxing myself how 05:27 < Hunterkll> :P 05:27 <@cryptic1> don't listen to Hunterkll 05:27 < rpifan> misspwn, r u a manager 05:27 <@cryptic1> he is drunk again 05:27 < Hunterkll> cryptic1 is a fuckin n00b 05:27 < Hunterkll> nah 05:27 < Hunterkll> forgot to go tot he liquor store 05:27 < Hunterkll> and its too late right now to do so 05:27 <@cryptic1> Hunterkll, thats a huge mistake 05:28 < MillerBOSS> That was in the updated User Agreement and Privacy Policy. 05:28 < Hunterkll> i could go to 7-11 and get a shitload of 4lokos 05:28 < Hunterkll> but i'm lazy 05:28 < Hunterkll> MillerBOSS, which one i have like 50 05:28 <@cryptic1> Hunterkll, do it 05:28 < Hunterkll> nah 05:28 < Hunterkll> don't wanna 05:28 <@cryptic1> Hunterkll, do it 05:28 * precise tunes in 05:28 < Hunterkll> cryptic1, i didn't know you worked at ghostery 05:28 <@cryptic1> Hunterkll, do eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet 05:28 < MillerBOSS> Hall monitor is in 05:28 < precise> Shutup cuntwad 05:28 <@cryptic1> precise, Hunterkll is doxing himself 05:29 < precise> cryptic1: I see that 05:29 < Hunterkll> cryptic1, and you work at ghostery - proof https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/8m45k6/ghostery_have_exposed_everyones_email_address_in/ 05:29 <@cryptic1> wait what? 05:29 <@cryptic1> ghostery had accounts? 05:29 < Hunterkll> so wait, does this mean they're the first to have to report a GDPR breach? D: 05:29 < precise> cryptic1: Rite? 05:29 < MillerBOSS> Thats what I said 05:29 < Hunterkll> :D :D :D :D :D 05:30 < precise> Hunterkll: Yes 05:30 < Hunterkll> ahahahahahaahhahaahahhaahahahah 05:30 <@cryptic1> like since when? 05:30 < Hunterkll> day 0 05:30 < Hunterkll> love it 05:30 < precise> So Ghostery commits the first ever GPDR breach, and Google and Facebook are being sued for a combined ~$8b 05:30 < precise> IDK which came first 05:31 < Hunterkll> why are they being sued already? 05:31 <@cryptic1> UPDATES TO OUR PRIVACY POLICY 05:31 <@cryptic1> UPDATES TO OUR PRIVACY POLICY 05:31 <@cryptic1> UPDATES TO OUR PRIVACY POLICY 05:31 <@cryptic1> UPDATES TO OUR PRIVACY POLICY 05:31 < Hunterkll> cryptic1, https://ghostery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000733373-Do-I-have-to-create-an-account-to-use-Ghostery- 05:31 < Hunterkll> it's for settings sync and shit 05:31 < Hunterkll> tho i don't know why you'd use an anti-tracking addon 05:31 < Hunterkll> that uh 05:31 < precise> Hunterkll: Because their current practices supposedly violate GPDR, and a media savvy lawyer was waiting at the proper governmental office this morning with the paperwork. 05:31 < Hunterkll> ..... 05:31 < Hunterkll> sells your data to advertising 05:31 < Hunterkll> precise, lel 05:32 < precise> Imma get this press 05:32 < MillerBOSS> I am starting to use one of my domains on G Suite as vendor@example.com for email addresses and catch all to inbox 05:32 < Hunterkll> lol 05:32 < precise> I mean, they very well may be violating it, but they aren't paying that money. 05:32 <@cryptic1> yeah its a shit plugin 05:32 < Hunterkll> precise, and they put in a shitload of work too 05:32 < Hunterkll> facebook especially did corporate restructuring around it 05:32 < Hunterkll> lol 05:32 < precise> Oh yeah 05:32 < precise> The scrambling to become compliant is huge 05:32 < Hunterkll> this lawyer's an ambulance chaser 05:32 < Hunterkll> scrambling? 05:32 < precise> Hunterkll: ++ 05:33 < Hunterkll> facebook had to have had gargantuan effort 05:33 < precise> Good. 05:33 < Hunterkll> literally corporate restructuring 05:33 < precise> Time they took user privacy seriously. 05:33 < Hunterkll> and relocating where accounts are and shit 05:33 < Hunterkll> precise, only for EU users 05:33 < Hunterkll> :) 05:33 < Hunterkll> all other users no longer agree to the ireland T&C 05:33 * precise changes mailing address to UK 05:33 < precise> Hey, I'm EU 05:33 < Hunterkll> they moved all other users except EU to a non-EU corporate entity 05:33 < Hunterkll> precise, and zuckerberg has straight up said they're not rolling all GDPR features to the rest of the world 05:34 < precise> I just hope that it gives those data vultures hell. 05:34 < Hunterkll> https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/3/17194504/facebook-mark-zuckerberg-gdpr-privacy-protections-europe 05:34 < Hunterkll> nah 05:34 < Hunterkll> because they aint EU 05:34 < Hunterkll> llol 05:34 < precise> Also, fuck Verizon, and their locked bootloader bullshit 05:34 < precise> I just want LineageOS 05:34 < precise> But noooo 05:34 < precise> Your monopolistic practices have to step in 05:35 < precise> nope, no unlock for you, cuz we said so, srynotsry 05:35 < Hunterkll> precise, yup, privacy activist 05:35 < Hunterkll> aka ambo chaser 05:35 < Hunterkll> https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/max-schrems-files-first-cases-under-gdpr-against-facebook-and-google-1.3508177 05:36 < precise> While we are on the hate train, can I just say I damn near killed my lawn mower at work today because some AT&T tech left like 40 cumulative ft of twisted pair copper wire on the ground around their distribution box on our property? 05:36 < precise> I have half a mind to call AT&T 05:36 <+NinjaStyle> booooop 05:36 < precise> Ay 05:36 <+NinjaStyle> ayayayay 05:37 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/8xW3ejk.png 05:37 < Hunterkll> i need this fishing rod 05:37 < MillerBOSS> Hunterkll 👉 Do you use a bookmark manager? 05:38 < Hunterkll> noped 05:38 < Hunterkll> nope 05:38 < Hunterkll> I sync IE/Edge and Chrome 05:38 < Hunterkll> but only when i remember 05:38 < Hunterkll> usually i just back up my bookmark files and restore them 05:38 < MillerBOSS> How do you organize? 05:38 < Hunterkll> uh 05:38 < Hunterkll> folders? 05:38 <+NinjaStyle> Hunterkll 🖕🏽 do u go fuck yourself? 05:38 < precise> Hunterkll: "I'll take How to get shot by an overzealous DNR officer for $400, Alex" 05:39 <+NinjaStyle> Hunterkll 05:39 < MillerBOSS> Right but I am curious how you specially organize. Like do you have 100 folders or just a handful and dump em all in there? 05:39 <+NinjaStyle> 🖕🏽 05:39 < Hunterkll> plol 05:39 < Hunterkll> MillerBOSS, uhhh 05:40 < Hunterkll> a mix of both? 05:40 < Hunterkll> i have 'bookmarks bar' and 'other bookmarks' 05:40 < Hunterkll> in chrome 05:40 <+NinjaStyle> my bookmarks are cray 05:40 < MillerBOSS> Right same here Hunterkll 05:40 < precise> Folders on folders on folders 05:40 < precise> Porn in the taxes folder 05:41 < MillerBOSS> Very day I have a hard time closing pages and when I restart chrome I bookmark all tabs to 2018.05.25-0X in a folder named daily 05:41 < MillerBOSS> Every* 05:41 < precise> Does chrome have a bookmark all tabs option? 05:41 < precise> Or do you go through? 05:42 < MillerBOSS> Yes. 05:42 < MillerBOSS> Right click tab 05:42 < Hunterkll> MillerBOSS, kind of like this - https://i.imgur.com/l0j9iTy.png 05:42 < MillerBOSS> I am actually looking right now to bookmark all sites gone to 05:42 < MillerBOSS> As an extension 05:43 < precise> MillerBOSS: I feel like that could go wrong 05:43 * precise clicks wrong thing 05:43 < precise> fuck 05:43 < Hunterkll> ? 05:43 * precise popup 05:43 < precise> fuck 05:43 < MillerBOSS> I got nothing to hid 05:43 < Hunterkll> lol 05:43 < MillerBOSS> hide 05:43 < Hunterkll> MillerBOSS, the best part is i didn't hide the porn 05:43 < Hunterkll> it's worse than that 05:43 < MillerBOSS> Its already logged somewhere else 05:43 < precise> You do, you just don't realise it :) MillerBOSS 05:43 < Hunterkll> iXtractor used to be a site to fscker photobuckets and shit 05:43 < precise> cryptic1: Can.. can I pull out my hat? 05:44 < precise> I'm not drunk tho... 05:44 < MillerBOSS> I didn't look that close Hunterkll . Not many folders there. :P 05:44 < Hunterkll> lol 05:44 < Hunterkll> MillerBOSS, what's worse is you can download your logged in google search history 05:44 < Hunterkll> mine goes back to 2005 05:44 < MillerBOSS> I hope thats not your address 05:44 < Hunterkll> lol no 05:44 < MillerBOSS> Hunterkll dox'd himself again 05:44 < Hunterkll> that's in NYC 05:44 < Hunterkll> forget what that is 05:44 < precise> lol 05:45 < Hunterkll> oh no 05:45 < Hunterkll> that's in baltimore 05:45 < Hunterkll> huh 05:45 < Hunterkll> an hampden 05:45 < Hunterkll> wtf is that 05:45 < Hunterkll> near the rotunda 05:45 < MillerBOSS> The last time I recall was your amazon buy history 05:45 < precise> cryptic1: Please protect Hunterkll from himself 05:45 < Hunterkll> idk 05:45 < Hunterkll> not a place i've ever been to 05:45 < MillerBOSS> We need 2 minute time delay from live for Hunterkll 05:45 < precise> lol 05:45 < precise> With cryptic1 over the bleep button 05:45 < Hunterkll> lolol 05:45 < Hunterkll> nah 05:45 < Hunterkll> aint somethin i know 05:46 < MillerBOSS> Or the bots 05:46 < Hunterkll> my googlle search history from last month 05:46 < Hunterkll> all of it 05:46 < Hunterkll> is a 100MB file 05:46 < Hunterkll> lol 05:46 < precise> Heh 05:47 < Hunterkll> that's all my googlle searches ever 05:47 < Hunterkll> my first ones are 05:47 < Hunterkll> ... creapy 05:47 < Hunterkll> .... 05:47 < precise> This suprises you? 05:47 < Hunterkll> the file froze notepad++ 05:47 < precise> Heh 05:47 < MillerBOSS> It doesn't happen anymore but before you used to be able to go to Chrome history and search it and it would log every word on every page which was helpful. Kinda like Google Search for your history 05:47 < Hunterkll> it's kinda fucked they give it in HTML format now 05:47 < Hunterkll> the search history 05:47 < Hunterkll> they used to give it in CSV 05:47 < precise> Hunterkll: They still do 05:47 < precise> IIRC 05:47 < Hunterkll> how? 05:47 < Hunterkll> takeout didn't have any options 05:47 < Hunterkll> i had to select all products or something 05:47 < precise> You can check the option in the download section 05:47 < Hunterkll> search wasn't even a separate option 05:47 < Hunterkll> oih shit 05:48 < precise> You should be able to choose between CSV, JSON, and HTML 05:48 < precise> IIRC 05:48 < Hunterkll> AH 05:48 < MillerBOSS> https://myactivity.google.com/myactivity and that is fucking dumber than it used to be when it first came out and the stupid shrinked up data shown and big white space on the sides. 05:48 < Hunterkll> CUSTOMIZE ARCHIVE FORMAT 05:48 < Hunterkll> YESSSS 05:48 < precise> Hunterkll: :) 05:48 < Hunterkll> and search is a sub of 'my activity' 05:48 < Hunterkll> thaere's a selector thing 05:49 < Church-> Hunterkll: How far back can you get searches? 05:49 < precise> Church-: Since account creation 05:49 < Hunterkll> Church-, 2004/2005 for me 05:49 < Hunterkll> ew 05:49 < Hunterkll> it doesn't precise ew 05:49 < precise> Hunterkll: ? 05:49 < Hunterkll> it lets me select the file type 05:49 < Hunterkll> and size 05:49 < Hunterkll> and delivery method 05:49 < precise> Hrm 05:49 < precise> file type options? 05:49 < precise> Is that just archive type? 05:49 < Hunterkll> yea 05:49 < precise> tar.gz vs zip? 05:49 < Hunterkll> zip/tgz/etc 05:49 < precise> Aye 05:50 < Church-> Hunterkll: Huh. 05:50 < precise> Is there a sub-item for search history? 05:50 < MillerBOSS> Small image but it used to be much more helpful http://personalinformatics.ianli.com/system/thumbnails/14/original/www.google.com-history.png?1263629519 05:50 < Hunterkll> precise, yes 05:50 < Hunterkll> i allready selelcted it 05:50 < precise> No format option? 05:50 < Hunterkll> nope 05:50 < precise> Damn 05:50 < Hunterkll> Your activity data is provided in the HTML format. Not all data displayed on My Activity is available for your archive. 05:51 < precise> Fuck that noise 05:51 < precise> Gimme my data 05:51 <+NinjaStyle> i bet i have the most bookmarks 05:51 < MillerBOSS> Also https://i.imgur.com/ijVHV.png 05:51 < precise> NinjaStyle: I bet I have more 05:51 <+NinjaStyle> who has more bookmarks, fite me 05:51 < precise> I have like 1 million and 5 05:51 <+NinjaStyle> :o 05:51 <+NinjaStyle> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/zzeCdTX3/image.png 05:52 < Hunterkll> precise, for a while they were doing that json bullshit but someone made a converter for that to csv 05:52 < Hunterkll> :( 05:52 <+NinjaStyle> precise: 05:52 <+NinjaStyle> precise: acknowledge so i can delete 05:52 <+NinjaStyle> lol 05:52 < precise> NinjaStyle: ACK 05:55 < MillerBOSS> Also Google Desktop was neat 05:56 < precise> I think I'm going to resell my Moto Z2 Play (Verizon Variant) and get another phone. Anyone interested in a near factory condition Z2 Play? Anyone have suggestions for a new phone? 05:57 < precise> I'm relatively sick of Moto's shit TBH 05:57 < MillerBOSS> https://github.com/crestify/crestify 05:57 < precise> They disabled Miracast by default and you need root to enable. 05:58 < MillerBOSS> I wish archive.is was opensourced 06:00 < MillerBOSS> I always felt like this but never enough to sue for $5 million http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article211655344.html They like a Quarter Pounder without cheese. So they're suing McDonald's for $5 million 06:00 < MillerBOSS> I like my burgers with lots of pickles and no cheese. 06:01 < precise> Wow 06:01 < precise> People with too much time on their hands. 06:01 < precise> IDEGAF if they have legal backing. 06:01 < precise> That's fucking ridiculous 06:01 < Hunterkll> that's up to franchise/region 06:01 < Hunterkll> there is a QPC and QPH keycode 06:02 < Casteil> http://www.humoar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/thyme-on-hands.jpg 06:02 < Hunterkll> and they CAN be priced differently 06:02 * precise smacks Casteil 06:02 < Hunterkll> most chains won't deduct cost for removing items, but chik fil a willl 06:02 < precise> lol u made me chuckle 06:02 < precise> I've seen some reciepts printed where a removed item has a line item but then has a -0.00 next to it 06:03 < Casteil> precise: my meme game is unbeatable 06:03 < precise> Casteil: Makes me wanna plant thyme in my garden 06:03 < Casteil> do basil 06:03 < Casteil> basil is a better herb 06:03 < Hunterkll> carolina reaper 06:03 < precise> Por que no los dos? 06:03 < Hunterkll> is best herb and spice 06:04 < Casteil> carolina reaper is just hot for the sake of being hot 06:04 < Hunterkll> I actually like the flavor 06:04 < Hunterkll> though ghost chili is better on pizza 06:04 < precise> I'm actually running out of room, got tomatos, lettuce, rubarb, columbine, broccoli, canelope, next is potatos if I can find room. 06:04 < Hunterkll> shit 06:04 < Hunterkll> i need to start my tabasco pepper seedlings 06:04 < Hunterkll> i have a kit 06:06 * precise looks up 06:06 * precise is now watching The Day After Tomorrow 06:06 < precise> heh 06:06 < precise> Dan Quaide 06:06 < precise> ya goose 06:07 < Hunterkll> huh 06:07 < Hunterkll> unexpected porn folder appears 06:07 < precise> A day in the life of Hunterkll 06:09 < precise> So I aquired a nice sound mixer through work 06:09 < precise> I have no audio engineering background 06:09 < precise> Any ideas on wtf to do with this thing? 06:09 < Hunterkll> i acquired alcoholism through work 06:10 < precise> Hunterkll: Are you an alcoholic? 06:10 < MillerBOSS> Man Google Extensions can be an endless rabbit hole. 06:10 < Hunterkll> i dunno, am i? 06:10 < Hunterkll> lol 06:10 < Hunterkll> i drank my way into a good job 06:10 < Hunterkll> so 06:10 < Hunterkll> idk 06:11 < precise> Your call, not mine. 06:11 < precise> :P 06:11 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/lAIXNzC.png 06:11 < Hunterkll> ^-- fuckin kids tehse days 06:12 < MillerBOSS> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/straight-to-full-size-for/ghhmhdkbiodiengmhbbpjkcjodingned https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bring-google-view-image-b/hnjhnncdcllbkacphdmdabdajfcnnnld 06:12 < MillerBOSS> Those are useful for Google Image search 06:13 < Hunterkll> hmm 06:13 < Hunterkll> oh twitter, you send me the best emails 06:13 < Hunterkll> "Folllow the chick you convinced to get naked, or the dude you had to kiss to get her naked!" 06:13 < Hunterkll> looooooooooll 06:14 < Hunterkll> essentiallly the two people it just suggsted i follow 06:25 < lineman60> Hunterkll I once Drank at a place with a working problem 06:25 < lineman60> fun times for all except maybe the livers 06:26 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/CUtqILv.png 06:34 < MadCamel> anyone here ever have to show up at a client's drunk at like 2am on a sat. night? 06:34 < MadCamel> newspapers man, newspapers.. 06:47 < MillerBOSS> https://apility.io/2018/05/25/gdpr-lazy-block-european-users-cloudflare-workers/ 06:50 < MillerBOSS> So many edits https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=General_Data_Protection_Regulation&action=history 06:52 < Church-> Damn I found a gig I really want. 06:52 < Church-> Hope I can get an interview. 06:52 < MadCamel> good luck 06:53 < Church-> Eyep. 06:56 < MadCamel> gdpr .. I'm involved with a US company that only does business with US people, has no EU offices.. yet is somehow afraid of getting fined by the EU for GDPR non-compliance. Like.. How? No jurisdiction whatsoever. But they're still paying lawyers $$$ over it :/ 06:58 < sideup66> hey cryptic1 06:58 < sideup66> drgibby isnt here? 06:58 < sideup66> i was gonna say i need a dickbutt salute 06:59 < sideup66> for being drug into bullshit at the end of a friday 06:59 < sideup66> and being up til 1:30 for it 07:01 < MadCamel> ah man.. I know that feeling and hope that you at least get a 3-day weekend coming up 07:02 < MillerBOSS> Wow this is like a EU against the US fight. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17154971 07:06 < Casteil> >there are lots of business logic problems with just deleting things out of the database and anonymizing users is very tricky. 07:06 < Casteil> no kidding lol 07:06 < MillerBOSS> Reading all of that was getting rather irritating. 07:07 < Casteil> It’s just gotten to the point that there’s one comment after another responding to this regulation or that regulation or this situation or whatever with “well, just call HR“, or “I can’t believe you don’t have a company policy for that!” 07:07 < Casteil> 07:07 < Casteil> yep, that kinda shit on r/sysadmin is pretty annoying 07:07 < Hunterkll> thats why cranky is usualyl right 07:07 < Hunterkll> lol 07:08 < Hunterkll> because what he's up against is total trash 07:08 < MillerBOSS> Whats cranky? 07:08 < Hunterkll> crankysysadmin 07:08 < Hunterkll> the user 07:08 < Hunterkll> on reddit 07:08 < MillerBOSS> Is he here in #reddit-sysadmin ? 07:08 < Hunterkll> no 07:10 < Casteil> I have a kitty that likes to hang around my house 07:10 < Casteil> I REQUIRE PROOF THAT YOU ARE MURDERING PESTS, CAT 07:11 < precise> Casteil: Demand their heads. 07:11 < Casteil> there was a dead woodpecker one day 07:11 < Casteil> I don't know if it died of disease or the cat got it 07:11 < Casteil> but one less woodpecker to try to drill a hole in my house 07:12 < precise> Bruh 07:12 < precise> Woodpeckers are cool 07:12 < precise> Tell it to get mice and rats and shit 07:12 < Casteil> chipmunks and moles are my problem 07:12 < Casteil> digging everywhere 07:12 < Casteil> wrecking my lawn 07:12 < precise> Automated sentry turret with pellet gun 07:15 < Casteil> it's just been chilling on my porch or deck since I went out and pet it like 20 min ago :P 07:17 < MillerBOSS> So going to latimes.com in NL gets you this https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-05-26-00-16-50-ZA.png 07:19 < MillerBOSS> Dumbed down version of usatoday.com lol https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-05-26-00-18-37-8l.png 07:20 < MillerBOSS> npr.org https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-05-26-00-20-11-GZ.png click decline and you get https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-05-26-00-20-24-5F.png https://text.npr.org/ 07:39 < MillerBOSS> Go sleep it off https://youtu.be/7p7c3FokGgQ 07:41 < MadCamel> infested by voles 07:42 < MadCamel> wow their plain text site rocks 07:42 < MadCamel> it's like gopher 07:42 < MillerBOSS> I wish more sites would do that actually 07:42 < MadCamel> yeah 07:44 < MadCamel> so many sites bring fancy layouts and uneeded videos that convey absolutely no extra information. I actually get pissed when I visit an article and there's an autoplay video that covers the same content as the text.. Which inceidentally I can imbibe way faster than a video. 07:44 < MillerBOSS> Wow so this dear this is more common than I knew https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diWxdVf5BAo 07:45 < MadCamel> oh that por critter 07:46 < MadCamel> I couldn't watch that, I'd have to shoot it 07:47 < MadCamel> TIL about EHD. 07:47 < MillerBOSS> Yeah people on the comments say that but I assume he wanted to document it for DNR and such 07:48 < MadCamel> I suppose for educational purposes yeah. I hope he at least properly disposed of the corpse. 07:49 < MillerBOSS> Rabbit hole started with https://imgur.com/gallery/o3AvS5z 08:07 < enix> Why do people insist on not using freenode urgh 08:07 < rpifan> what 08:12 < enix> Minecraft server hosting channel I want to connect to is on some random server and I really don't feel like configuring a new server in my irssi 08:12 < enix> viva la freenode 08:12 < enix> bbl gotta pack for a bit though. 08:12 < enix> Also dont host a minecraft server 08:12 < enix> they suck. 08:15 < rpifan> enix, r u sqaure yet 08:17 <@JollyRgrs> not yet 08:17 <@JollyRgrs> he's still enix^1 08:18 < rpifan> soon 08:18 <@JollyRgrs> enix: i host a minecraft server, i have no issues 08:18 <@JollyRgrs> but then again, i'm just hosting for my two kids 08:19 <@JollyRgrs> and freenode is really about programming and FOSS projects, etc... 08:19 <@JollyRgrs> not really for game networks 08:19 <@JollyRgrs> is gamesurge.net still around? 08:19 <@JollyRgrs> that's how i lernt irc 08:20 <@JollyRgrs> dang 08:20 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.teamwarfare.com/ 08:20 <@JollyRgrs> my old gaming league from like... early 2000s 08:20 <@JollyRgrs> it was still around as of a few years ago, althoguh hobbling 08:20 < voidstar> rizon has a large gaming project/group population 08:27 < MillerBOSS> https://youtu.be/HI-v8yxkC2A 08:27 < MillerBOSS> I sure hope he has been drinking 08:27 < plop> morning 08:27 < plop> MillerBOSS never fails me and helps me through my working weekend 08:28 < MillerBOSS> You betchya 08:28 < MillerBOSS> Ill be here for at least 3-4 more hours 08:28 < plop> what is today's project? more factorio? 08:28 < MillerBOSS> Fuck that 08:28 < MillerBOSS> I uninstalled that shit 08:28 < MillerBOSS> Earlier today 08:29 < MillerBOSS> Its a bad drug 08:29 < plop> yes it is 08:29 < plop> go buy FTLç 08:29 < plop> FLT* 08:29 < rpifan> can someone do some surreptitious db work for me 08:29 < MillerBOSS> See how it says install? https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-05-25-17-12-59-32.png 08:30 < MillerBOSS> I will stay away from games for a bit. I don't play may 08:30 < MillerBOSS> many* 08:30 < plop> hahha well done 08:30 < plop> so, i bought a minipc on amazon. to play spotify for the music of the hotel 08:30 < plop> and, watch this 08:31 < plop> https://imgur.com/a/4bWShXq 08:32 < MillerBOSS> Wow this guy is good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxQEmUTnius 08:32 < plop> support has a .outlook account 08:32 < MillerBOSS> Oh I see a lot of that 08:32 < plop> amazon said windows 10 pro hah. we'll see 08:32 < MillerBOSS> Sadly 08:37 < adapter> Link to the mini PC? 08:38 < plop> wait 08:38 < MillerBOSS> These look decent https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-Fan-less-Quad-Core-Performance-ZBOX-CI327NANO-U/dp/B0728F8JS5/?th=1 08:38 < plop> https://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B06XW4Y9T6/ref=s9u_simh_gw_i1?ie=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B06XW4Y9T6&pd_rd_r=57bb831a-60af-11e8-a008-71ec069f688d&pd_rd_w=ruiuW&pd_rd_wg=onGG4&pf_rd_m=A1AT7YVPFBWXBL&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=BWGJECANW556Q11RPP0J&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=d0b6f40d-fc53-4061-9d06-13343edb528a&pf_rd_i=desktop 08:38 < voidstar> looks good for a pfsense box 08:40 < adapter> not bad 08:47 < MillerBOSS> plop 👉 is English popular there? 08:48 < plop> deppends 08:48 < plop> it is in my zone because it is very touristic 08:48 < plop> but the more far you get from the sea... 08:48 < MillerBOSS> Ahh that makes sense 08:48 < plop> wanna visit? :D 08:49 < MillerBOSS> If I had moola 08:49 < plop> haha 08:50 < plop> well, you're welcome 08:50 < MillerBOSS> Yeah some day maybe 08:51 < plop> https://imgur.com/a/NGYpvuR wtf 08:52 < MillerBOSS> Ha ha 08:52 < MillerBOSS> Cortona bullshit 08:52 < plop> i love google assistant. 08:53 < plop> is like a polite cleverbot 08:53 < plop> speaking of bots... 08:53 < plop> `bofh 08:53 < plop> :( 08:53 < MillerBOSS> Look at cryptic1 for that one 08:54 < plop> i see 08:56 < plop> well, morning meeting time. brb 08:58 < MillerBOSS> https://i.imgur.com/xcGu6Oc.jpg 08:59 < Sousapro> Finally read the forever war 08:59 < Sousapro> Hell of a book 09:15 < Hunterkll> I like cortona tho 09:16 < Hunterkll> have it on my iphone and android phones 09:16 < Hunterkll> loll 09:23 < MillerBOSS> https://imgur.com/gallery/hgWW3N5 09:23 < MillerBOSS> Perfect 09:24 < plop> back 09:26 < Maarten> Heh. Pretty much if you have a smart phone of any kind or an internet connection, your data is out there.... if you don't want your data out there, disconnect and read a book. :P 09:27 < MillerBOSS> You bet but its funny Maarten 09:30 < Maarten> Meanwhile.... people are jumping up and down about Windows 10 privacy and Facebook privacy, and are blissfully ignoring the HUGE elephant in the room which is the smartphone they are posting the complaints with :P humans are silly creatures.... lets complain about this mouse dropping over here, but tooootally accept this elephant's heap of crap, because you know.... smart phones are so convenient :P 09:31 < MillerBOSS> You are right about that 09:31 < Hunterkll> Maarten, the best part is that peoplel are jumping up and down about windows 10 FUD which is, for the most part, entirely false and ill informed 09:31 < Hunterkll> I actually inspect the telemetry data. much ado about nothing. and keylogger? turn off online search results in the start menu and it won't send search box keystrokes ONLY to bing for predictive results 09:31 < Hunterkll> :p 09:32 < Hunterkll> almost sounds like win10 only sends what it needs for hte integrated online services to work and you can turn 'em off, huh... 09:33 < Hunterkll> It probably doesn't hurt that information gathering doesn't make any real revenue for microsoft, just like apple 09:33 < Hunterkll> google on the other hand.... 09:34 < Maarten> Thousands of people have inspected the data sent to Microsoft, and literally NO ONE has been able to identify a person with it. It's all random stats that don't link to anyone. Mean while.... your cell phone provider knows where your phone was on April 27th at 5 PM in the afternoon, and has a copy of all the texts you sent that day too, connected to your name and/or payment method. But...... nooo, windows 10 is evil :P 09:34 < Hunterkll> yup 09:34 < Hunterkll> Maarten, microsoft got so fed up with 1803 you can now inspect the data yourself with a tooll in settings without having to rip it apart or MITM it like I did 09:34 < Hunterkll> lol 09:34 < Hunterkll> *with it now in 1803 you can 09:34 < Hunterkll> i should lsay 09:34 < Maarten> ha! i should check that out (i run 1803) 09:35 < Maarten> does the stupid hexchat sysinfo thingy show windows builds? 09:35 < Maarten> Client: HexChat 2.14.1 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (x64) • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700K CPU @ 4.20GHz (4.20GHz) • Memory: 32.0 GiB Total (23.1 GiB Free) • Storage: 5.4 TiB / 10.5 TiB (5.0 TiB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB • Uptime: 1w 1d 11h 58m 56s 09:35 < Hunterkll> no 09:35 < Hunterkll> it doesn't 09:35 < Maarten> no it doesnt 09:35 < Hunterkll> but your system is shitty 09:35 < Hunterkll> and you should feel shitty 09:35 < Hunterkll> Client: HexChat 2.14.1 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Enterprise Insider Preview (x64) • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-7980XE CPU @ 2.60GHz (2.59GHz) • Memory: 31.7 GiB Total (13.5 GiB Free) • Storage: 5.9 TiB / 7.8 TiB (1.8 TiB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti • Uptime: 3d 17h 20m 35s 09:35 < Hunterkll> :P 09:36 < Hunterkll> i like how wildly in accurate my storage is because i use storage spaces 09:36 < Maarten> Oh I don't care its about a year and a half old, there is probably systems 4 times powerful by now 09:36 < Hunterkll> lol yea 09:36 < Hunterkll> like my 18 core CPU 09:36 < Hunterkll> :P 09:36 < Hunterkll> shows as 36 because of hyperthreading hahahaa 09:36 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/RM5IKiM.png 09:36 < Hunterkll> it's quite sillly 09:36 < MillerBOSS> Like you 09:37 < MillerBOSS> Glad to see you mining 09:37 < Maarten> It does show insider preview though, so somewhat build-ish.... :P 09:37 < Hunterkll> Maarten, in settings, under privacy, then diagnostics and feedback, there's a 'diagnostic data viewer' section near the bottom 09:37 < Hunterkll> Maarten, this machine's sbehind 09:37 < Hunterkll> it's still way downllevell 09:37 < Hunterkll> i'm lilke 5-6 builds behind actually 09:38 < Hunterkll> 17124 is 1803, and they jumped to 176xx for the next version 09:38 < Maarten> I just run whatever is current production, i did previews for a while but then one of my games stopped working and they said: oh yeah, its because of some updated dll, don't worry we'll fix it before it goes live. Sooooo I went back to the current retail :P 09:38 < Hunterkll> i'm only on 17655 right now, 17677 is current 09:38 < Hunterkll> eh 09:38 < Hunterkll> pubg broke on my system for a while - i had to disablel VT-x for it to work 09:38 < Hunterkll> but 09:39 < Hunterkll> it broke on release builds too 09:39 < MillerBOSS> All I gotta say is they need to slow the fuck down on these feature updates. Do like once a year or something not twice a year. 09:39 < Hunterkll> because the anti-cheat driver wouldn't load when i had hypervisor code integrity and credential guard stuff enabled 09:39 < Hunterkll> MillerBOSS, no way, it's worked out fine so far 09:39 < Hunterkll> the support lifecycle is long enough on each build you can upgrade once a year in work 09:39 < Hunterkll> so whatever 09:39 < Hunterkll> 18 months + 6 more for enterprise/education 09:40 < Hunterkll> but no way in hell 09:40 < Hunterkll> the DISA stig has feature requirements that just appeared in 1709 for security features for DoD deplloyments 09:40 < Hunterkll> lol 09:40 < Hunterkll> the DoD community is loving the pace of security enhancement in the OS 09:40 < Maarten> I'm not sure that whatever features Windows is adding as of late is worth the preview hassle.... It was maybe the first few releases, but 1803..... meh, there really wasn't anything in there that I *needed* before release 09:40 < Hunterkll> windows defender exploit guard is godlike 09:40 < Hunterkll> more security improvements. wild improvements. 09:41 < Maarten> Well.... I haven't gotten a virus on my system since the day I inserted a boot-sector infected floppy disk in 1993-ish or so.... because you know, that great antivirus called "common sense 1.0". So even that didn't really make me jump for joy. 09:42 < Hunterkll> that.... well, that you know of 09:42 < Hunterkll> driveby silent infections are a thing 09:42 < Hunterkll> which is why i'm really happy with 10's 0-day mitigations 09:42 < Hunterkll> and to be fair, my last known, non-intentional infection was Klez.H on windows 2000 :p 09:42 < MillerBOSS> Is there DISA info on a non .mil site that I can actually get to? 09:42 < Hunterkll> but I still ride with alll the features enabled and configured, even HCI 09:43 < Hunterkll> MillerBOSS, it's a .mil but you can read the stigs without having to be a mil person 09:43 < Hunterkll> https://iase.disa.mil/stigs/os/windows/Pages/win10.aspx 09:43 < Hunterkll> that .mil is even signed by a public CA, not internal DoD CA 09:44 < Maarten> I use Defender though of course. Pretty sure i'm not infected with anything. Even my torrenting I do on a seprate VM on my ESXi server that has a permanent VPN connected and on its own virtual Vlan, and I scan all files before I allow them on my network. 09:44 < Hunterkll> stigviewer is a good site but it's out of date 09:44 < Hunterkll> https://www.stigviewer.com/stig/windows_10/ 09:44 < Hunterkll> that doesn't have the latest version 09:44 < MillerBOSS> Yeah I see that. The other ones didn't work but I bypassed but got errors from F5 09:44 < MillerBOSS> See this security stuff, if I knew about it and understood it I would drink the Windows 10 koolaid Hunterkll 09:44 < Hunterkll> Maarten, okay, that's a little over-paranoid, and i'm running in locked down NSA configuration for TS systems at home with a full AD domain using advanced threat analytics on my domain controllers and defender ATP on my systems SCCM managed 09:45 < Hunterkll> (TS as in top secret) 09:45 < Hunterkll> MAC I classification 09:46 < MillerBOSS> I am interested in that setup Hunterkll 09:46 < Hunterkll> Maarten, anyway, here's what the telemetry looks like - https://i.imgur.com/w02om6g.png - note i do have it set to 'full' - but llook at this .... the telemetry ... OMG ... it tells me the version of the OS ... and that outlook.exe called the search indexer.... 09:46 < Maarten> speaking of domain controllers... I have been tasked to redesign a complete AD for a company of over 5,000 computers in all continents but Antarctica.... they currently have domains and subdomains, and I get to design from scratch. Fun project :) 09:46 < Hunterkll> 5000? 09:46 < Hunterkll> heh 09:46 < Hunterkll> i have 6000 workstations in one AD domain 09:46 < Hunterkll> 45k people in this business unit we're integrating 09:46 < Hunterkll> and 120k in my company 09:46 < Hunterkll> and yes, we do defense work :p 09:47 < plop> that's why you're Hunterkll 09:47 < MillerBOSS> TOTALLY 09:47 < plop> now all makes sense 09:47 < Maarten> still, designing from scratch seems like a fun thing. (Also, I used to work for Boeing, I know the defense thing) 09:47 < Hunterkll> ? 09:47 < MillerBOSS> ?? 09:47 < Hunterkll> i've been hunterkll sinec 11 09:47 < Hunterkll> lol 09:47 < Hunterkll> Maarten, ahhh, a competitor 09:47 < Hunterkll> :p 09:47 < Hunterkll> though we do ground support for boeing aircraft 09:47 < Hunterkll> xD 09:48 < MillerBOSS> And here I am playing with my 150 workstation domain :( 09:48 < plop> and i have like 40 09:48 * MillerBOSS high fives plop 09:48 < Maarten> I like working for a mid-size company though. Boeing's bureaucracy seemed worse than the government. 09:48 < MillerBOSS> Hunterkll 👉 I am serious though 09:48 * plop high fives back 09:49 < MillerBOSS> Whats the low down on this NSA configuration for TS systems at home with a full AD domain using advanced threat analytics on my domain controllers and defender ATP on my systems SCCM managed 09:49 < Maarten> I have a lot more freedom and decission power here. Such as telling the company THIS is how your complete new AD is going to look like :P 09:49 < plop> that minipc works nice, it has a mickeymouse and some candycrash 09:49 < Hunterkll> MillerBOSS, multiple parts 09:49 < Hunterkll> full STIG compliance with SHB (secure host base) addons 09:50 < Hunterkll> SCCM managing windows defender/SCEP (system center endpoint protection) with the addition of microsofts defender advanced threat protection service 09:50 < Hunterkll> my AD domain is also seriously llocked down 09:50 < Hunterkll> there's AD stigs and server OS stigs out there too - both for DCs and member serverse 09:50 < Hunterkll> I use SCCM compliance baselines and a navy tool for STIG compliance vallidation 09:53 < Maarten> SCCM is cool, I use it myself. Mostly for software deployments and such. 10:04 < plop> when windows says "preparing to install" i imagine like putting all files in a box or something. is that weird 10:06 < Hunterkll> no cuz that's kinda what it's doing 10:06 < Hunterkll> taking notes, copying files to a staging location, etc 10:07 < plop> lil bitman and bitwoman moving bits and bytes arround 11:02 < MillerBOSS> plop 👉 how was the meeting? 11:02 < MillerBOSS> And how is that new device treating ya? 11:02 < plop> MillerBOSS, it is just lame boring operation meeting we do everyday to check the overall hotel 11:02 < plop> device is updatin, quite quick. i'm kinda amazed hah 11:03 < MillerBOSS> Hard drive or flash/ssd? 11:03 < plop> and you? 11:03 < plop> flash 11:03 < plop> and it is a celeron. i guess better than atoms 11:04 < MillerBOSS> Well that is all good. Contemplating if I should keep geeking it up or go to bed. 11:04 < plop> what time is it now? 11:05 < MillerBOSS> 4am 11:05 < MillerBOSS> Woke up at 4pm I think 11:05 < plop> ah, you can stay up a little longer 11:05 < MillerBOSS> Yeah I need to crank the tunes 11:06 < plop> heh 11:08 < MillerBOSS> Country Time 11:08 * MillerBOSS is listening to Easton Corbin — Lovin' You Is Fun, from the album All Over the Road 11:08 < plop> i miss layer-8 11:09 < MillerBOSS> Me too. Its here. It will be "alive" soon. 11:09 < plop> have you solved the seen thing? 11:10 < MillerBOSS> https://github.com/funsocietyirc/MrNodeBot/issues/33 11:10 < MillerBOSS> So the answer is no 11:11 < plop> lol. there's the video 11:11 < MillerBOSS> Lol yeah 11:11 < MillerBOSS> Oh yeah 11:11 < MillerBOSS> With whats his face in the background 11:11 < MillerBOSS> Dice 11:11 < plop> haha yes 11:11 < MillerBOSS> HA HA that audio 11:12 < MillerBOSS> Cussing up a storm 11:12 < MillerBOSS> Whoops 11:12 < plop> old times 11:12 < MillerBOSS> I did not do that on purpose 11:12 < MillerBOSS> I just rewatched it 11:12 < MillerBOSS> Thats funny 11:12 < plop> check eddie izzard 11:13 < MillerBOSS> Yeah he is not bad either 11:14 < plop> do you have amazon prime? there is this show that kinda reminds me of black mirror but i haven't watched it. 11:14 < MillerBOSS> I do but I don't use it for video though. 11:14 < plop> there is some actual good shows there 11:15 < MillerBOSS> Just more things to waste my time. :P 11:15 < MillerBOSS> Like Factorio 11:15 < plop> lol 11:15 < plop> brb 11:16 < MillerBOSS> I don't venture far out actually. Seinfeld, Curb Your Enthusiasm, and Trailer Park Boys I watch on repeat a lot. 11:25 < plop> i havent' seen trailer park boys. any good? 11:25 < plop> i'm watching the office heh 11:26 < MillerBOSS> Yeah it is. Oh yeah The Office too I watch a lot of 11:26 < plop> and park and recreation 11:26 < MillerBOSS> I have not watched that one yet 11:26 < plop> and the it crowd obiously 11:26 < MillerBOSS> Yeah seen that but I don't think I finished it 11:27 < plop> it gets weird on the last episodes 11:27 < MillerBOSS> Yeah I bet 11:28 < plop> also, one of the best shows is Community. 11:29 < MillerBOSS> Yeah I heard that too 11:29 < plop> i loved it 12:50 * MillerBOSS is listening to Aaron Tippin — There Ain't Nothin' Wrong with the Radio, from the album Greatest Hits... and Then Some 12:50 < MillerBOSS> Rararararararadio 14:20 < Atroskelis> dorks 14:20 < Atroskelis> what permanent irc shit do u use 14:20 < Atroskelis> im reconsidering irccloud sub after i lost remote to my raspbi after reboot lol 15:50 < Alternity> i use quassel 15:50 < Alternity> works well 15:50 < Alternity> ZNC is solid as well 15:50 < Alternity> Atroskelis 15:52 < anickname> hello 15:52 < anickname> is it normal / typical / good to have a REST API go through a CloudFlare proxy? 15:54 < Atroskelis> Alternity: oic. I need a stable znc better than a rasbpi at home 15:54 < Alternity> aws free trier? 15:55 < Alternity> why run a znc from home, just run irc client at that point. the whole idea is to have it in a datacenter somewhere it will never dc 15:57 < estranger> i see reasons to run znc at home.. esp if you use multiple clients 15:57 < Atroskelis> I ran a tmux+weechat relay + glowing bear 15:57 < genr8_> if you disconnect a lot , or are on wifi, or use multiple devices, like tablets 15:58 < Atroskelis> It's alright but i need to monthly renew a cert 15:58 < estranger> why 15:58 < genr8_> never heard of that 15:58 < estranger> use your own CA if you know you trust the endpoint 15:59 < estranger> need a signed cert if other folks will be using it 15:59 < Atroskelis> Glowing bear secure needs a cert, and i couldn't import self signed on android 15:59 < Atroskelis> So i used a let's encrypt 16:00 < Atroskelis> It's almost an irccloud but free 16:00 < Atroskelis> Id like a web/mobile solution 16:04 < Alternity> or just use quassel 16:04 < Alternity> mobile client works well 16:04 < Alternity> self signed cert 16:06 < varesa_1> Atroskelis: why not automate LE? 16:06 < varesa_1> and I thought you could import a custom CA on android, or is that a limitation of the app? 16:08 < Atroskelis> Ive no clue 16:08 < Atroskelis> I haven't delved that deep 16:12 < DLSteve> varesa_1, You can add custom CAs to Android and iOS. 16:16 < anickname> could someone answer my question? :) 16:17 < DLSteve> anickname, Depends, most external facing APIs go through a proxy, wether it's cloud flair or not is up to you. Plenty of others to choose from. 16:18 < anickname> So it's a good idea to have a proxy then? 16:18 < DLSteve> Do you need a proxy? 16:19 < DLSteve> Proxy allows you to put access controls on endpoints and also consolidate several backend services running the APIs into one unified URL. 16:19 < anickname> I mean the reason why I'm asking is I don't want to see any unintended side effects via using a proxy 16:19 < genr8_> slower ? 16:20 < genr8_> i think you only use proxies if you need to 16:20 < DLSteve> I mean there is not really a reason to use a proxy if you have no idea why you are using a proxy. 16:20 < anickname> Cloudflare proxies protect against DDoS's and includes added security, so I'd say it's beneficial 16:21 < genr8_> and if you need the security of it, then no point complaining eh 16:21 < Atroskelis> cant you get flooded if you don't proxy ur API? 16:21 < Atroskelis> a nice fucking backend flood :] 16:21 < anickname> that too 16:21 < anickname> I just want to make sure stuff like caching or whatever wouldn't happenn 16:22 < anickname> I'm sure it wouldn't 16:22 < genr8_> it just will be a little or a lot slower to respond 16:22 < DLSteve> Atroskelis, If you only have one server with no load balancer or any kind of HA redundancy you will get flooded anyway. 16:22 < Atroskelis> DLSteve: don't you buy cloudfare for that exact reason? 16:23 < genr8_> hes saying cloudflare isnt enough you still need proper redundancy on your end 16:24 < DLSteve> Atroskelis, No, Cloudflair does not magically make your site have HA. Just protects from some basic DDoS attacks and maybe some other access controls. 16:24 < Atroskelis> true, cloudfare does not protect against HA, but it does against floods 16:25 < anickname> what is HA? 16:25 < DLSteve> Sites can be overwhelmed by legitimate traffic that Cloud Flair won't block. 16:25 < DLSteve> High Availability. 16:25 < anickname> oh 16:26 < DLSteve> HA = High Availability, DR = Disaster Recovery 16:26 < DLSteve> So you will her the term HA/DR a lot. 16:26 < DLSteve> *hear 16:27 < genr8_> how do you guys like the new 4.4.4.4 dns 16:27 < Atroskelis> lol 16:27 < pcspkr> another day another dns 16:28 < Atroskelis> i want a 69.69.69.69 16:28 < anickname> thank you 16:28 < Atroskelis> or a 66.66.66.66 16:49 < rpifan> whats 4.4.4.4 do 16:53 < ned0> Atroskelis https://github.com/thelounge/thelounge 16:55 < ned0> spins up a web client then you just log in from anywhere or any device 16:55 < ned0> add the page to your home screen on your phone and it's like having an anpp 16:55 < ned0> app* 16:55 < Atroskelis> wow 16:55 < rpifan> meh node 16:55 < Atroskelis> this is really interesting 16:56 < ned0> don't use that default white background theme though, it is eye-searing 16:59 < Atroskelis> I wonder how secure it is 16:59 < Atroskelis> if i leave it off a custom port 16:59 < ned0> it is probably secureish 17:00 < ned0> i've set it up with a letsencrypt cert before or I think you can use your own 17:00 < Atroskelis> Someone needs to build like a Discord, but for IRC 17:00 < Atroskelis> so far only Irccloud is close 17:01 < ned0> idk what irccloud does that thelounge won't 17:02 < ned0> other than the image upload hosting 17:04 < Atro> True 17:07 < ned0> i also don't know why I push it so hard 17:07 < ned0> feel free to choose the client you like best lol 17:07 < ned0> i've also used tmux/weechat 17:08 < Atro> yeah its difficult when you got so many choices 17:24 < genr8_> someone teach me something new 17:26 * ned0 begins folding a paper crane 17:29 < rpifan> anoyne live in nashville 17:34 < genr8_> ashville 17:35 < rpifan> anyone wanna give me a ride for money to bonnaroo 17:35 < rpifan> lol 17:37 < genr8_> i wish 17:37 < rpifan> man ido hate living in a country where airplans and cars are the prodominant form of life 17:38 < genr8_> check the reddit 17:38 < rpifan> i have 17:38 < rpifan> been asking everywhere 17:39 < rpifan> like no one has poured over fb reddit and every website 17:39 < Atro> damn tmux is annoying 17:39 < rpifan> then me 17:39 < Atro> to work with 17:39 < rpifan> screen 17:54 < rpifan> the fuck was that, chrome suddenly took up 110 percent cpu and kept doing it even after restart 17:54 < cipher6> It's free realestate 17:55 < rpifan> my cpu? 17:55 < Maarten> rpifan, a ride for money? If only if there were an app where you could book such a ride..... that would be easy 17:56 < rpifan> its 132 dollary doos 17:57 < Maarten> that doesn't sound horrible. Depending on what the distance is of course 17:58 < rpifan> but it wiould take me 132 dollars to get to the point 17:58 < rpifan> where i could take uber lol 18:00 < genr8_> i dont exactly think they'd deliver him to roo either 18:00 < genr8_> have you seen the wait line to get in ? 18:01 < rpifan> id like to get there wednesday 18:01 < rpifan> sigh take a pto day 18:01 < genr8_> youd have to get out on the road and walk with your shit for like 1-2 miles to get actually in 18:05 < genr8_> what music groups are you going to go see primarily 18:06 < rpifan> well really im going for the vibe 18:07 < rpifan> i love them festy ppl 18:07 < rpifan> everyon is nice 18:07 < rpifan> and sweet nad lovely 18:07 < rpifan> well the attendeees anyway 18:11 < rpifan> but id like to see the killers 18:11 < rpifan> i also wanan do drugs but apparntly there banned this year 18:11 < Maarten> festivals are cool, I used to go to several when I was young (25 years ago....) now I just go arena concerts of big groups when they are in town. Although that has dropped to maybe once a year 18:11 < genr8_> i think you should be able to get a ride to come pick you up 18:11 <@cryptic1> UPDATES TO OUR PRIVACY POLICY 18:11 <@cryptic1> UPDATES TO OUR PRIVACY POLICY 18:11 <@cryptic1> UPDATES TO OUR PRIVACY POLICY 18:11 <@cryptic1> UPDATES TO OUR PRIVACY POLICY 18:11 <@cryptic1> UPDATES TO OUR PRIVACY POLICY 18:12 < Maarten> cryptic1, I am excited to read the full document of updates and changes. Please do tell. 18:12 <@cryptic1> Your thoughts are now the property of r/sysadmin 18:12 < Maarten> That's all? 1 line? 18:12 <@cryptic1> yes 18:13 < genr8_> i got a ride once and even camped with the nice ppl who brought me all the way on like a 16 hour drive 18:13 < Maarten> I'm rather disappointed :( 18:13 < Atro> cryptic1: please confirm that you want me to continue communicating with you in this channel 18:13 <@cryptic1> well there is some fine print 18:13 < genr8_> do you accept my cookies ? 18:13 < genr8_> GDPR 18:13 <@cryptic1> one thing to note is any money you have earned or will earn is now the property of r/sysadmin 18:14 < rpifan> yea its been dififcult 18:14 < rpifan> still i went to my first fest this year, im 30, at okechobee 18:14 < rpifan> and i loved it 18:14 < rpifan> even tho the kids were kids and most of them were 20 or so 18:14 < rpifan> i never really felt that out of place 18:14 < Maarten> please confirm yes or no that what you type here might be screenshotted, logged and shared with yet to be determined third parties before you continue to engage conversation. Please note, not confirming counts as a yes, and a no doesn't mean the data doesn't get captured anyways. 18:14 < genr8_> shoulda got started earlier. at least you found out at all 18:15 < rpifan> you mean? 18:15 < rpifan> me 18:15 < genr8_> yea 18:16 < rpifan> i lived in atlanta for over 10 years,never even considered bonaroo b4 18:22 < ned0> who was posting all of the the GDPR things yesterday? MillerBOSS? 18:22 < rpifan> yay 18:22 < rpifan> we have a tropical storm 18:22 < rpifan> that is gonna kill me 18:22 < rpifan> in miami 18:22 < ned0> MillerBOSS https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/DeDbqQoU0AAx4QW.mp4 18:51 < sideup66> https://i.redd.it/dl14ragou5011.jpg 19:11 < DLSteve> ned0, Haha 19:31 < Jekotia> If I have two applications with mail configurations for a remote server, and I want them both to instead send using a local application that passes the email to the remote server (re: one outbound mail connection instead of two), is there a common term for the role this 3rd application would be performing? 19:31 < Jekotia> I'm struggling to find anything since IDFK what to even call it 19:32 < DLSteve> SMTP? 19:32 < Jekotia> DLSteve: It's normal to configure a SMTP server to authenticate with a remote SMTP server? 19:32 < Atro> sure 19:33 < DLSteve> yah we have SMTP relay servers. 19:33 < Jekotia> Oh. That explains why I can't find anything :| I thought it would be more complicated than that 19:33 < Jekotia> Thanks! 19:34 < Jekotia> I have a node app I use, and for SMTP it uses nodemailer. My remote server is gmail. Guess what nodemailer officially says if you have issues sending to gmail? effectively, "wont fix, use something else" :| 19:34 < Jekotia> I love FOSS, but hate the attitude 19:35 < Jekotia> Take pride in making your work... work, people! 19:36 < rpifan> im all foss 19:38 < Jekotia> Does this work for anyone http://saturn.jekotia.net:3444/ ? 19:38 < Jekotia> It's redirecting to https, which it doesn't support, and I can't figure out WHY 19:39 < Jekotia> But it works fine if I use the local network IP 19:39 < Jekotia> I'm hoping there's just some shitty browser issues at play for me, since it's happened before for HTTPS redirects 19:42 < DLSteve> Jekotia, Google activly tries to prevent applications from using SMTP so I can't blame them for giving up. 19:43 < Jekotia> DLSteve: WHat's the alternative to SEND via gmail then? Or do you mean that they're trying to force people to use the web clients? 19:43 < DLSteve> You can get it to work but you may have to tweak your security settings to enable "Insecure Apps" to talk to GMail via SMTP. 19:43 < DLSteve> Jekotia, They want you to use the web or use their GMail REST API that they can apply limits to. 19:44 < DLSteve> Or pony up for G Suite and set up an SMTP relay server. 19:46 < Jekotia> I got grandfathered into the free GSuite tier, actually. I'm going to see if that includes the relay you mention 19:47 < DLSteve> https://support.google.com/a/answer/2956491?hl=en 19:48 < Jekotia> I actually have been grandfathered on two domains, one which I no-longer own. I still actively control a gsuite account for the one I don't own, though. I'm keeping it active hoping the new owner will eventually respond to my offer to transfer control to them, since it's really nice free shit they can't actually get for free 19:49 < abakedapplepie> man 19:49 < abakedapplepie> i will forever kick myself 19:49 < abakedapplepie> for not doing that shit 19:50 < Jekotia> Also, as above, does this work for anyone http://saturn.jekotia.net:3444/ ? Trying to rule out issues local to myself 19:52 < Jekotia> (telling me it doesn't work for you would also be helpful) 19:55 < catbeard> jesus 19:55 < catbeard> EITEST campaign files 19:56 < catbeard> everywhere! 19:56 < catbeard> clamscan -ir -d /root/lw-yara/lw-rules-combined.yar /home/*/www 19:56 < DLSteve> Jekotia, works for me. 19:57 < Jekotia> DLSteve: Thanks. 19:57 < catbeard> easiest ip grab evar 19:57 < Jekotia> DLSteve: Also, sadly, it looks like google had the foresight to not let grandfathered cheapos like me get the relay 19:58 < DLSteve> haha 19:59 < Jekotia> Also, I doubt I'll ever get an answer on giving the new owner the gsuite account... Lets be honest, what are the chances that an email from a stranger offering wonderful free stuff doesn't get filtered to spam? 20:00 < Jekotia> I got halfway through writing the email and realised "This sounds like the nigerian price crap, except FREE" 20:07 <@cryptic1> UPDATES TO OUR PRIVACY POLICY 20:07 <@cryptic1> UPDATES TO OUR PRIVACY POLICY 20:07 <@cryptic1> UPDATES TO OUR PRIVACY POLICY 20:07 <@cryptic1> UPDATES TO OUR PRIVACY POLICY 20:07 <@cryptic1> UPDATES TO OUR PRIVACY POLICY 20:07 < Atro> PLEASE CONFIRM U WANT SPAM 20:07 < catbeard> PLS OPT IN SO WE CAN SELL YER DATA 20:08 < catbeard> O ALSO PLS OPT IN TO WHOIS DATA SO GOV DOESNT HAVE TO WORK HARD TO FIND CRIMINALS VIA WHOIS THX 20:10 < new_student> Hey folks, if I want to distribution a cache (which is a bunch of files, ~100GB) to 500 machines in the quickest way possible without choking the network, what tools exist out there which can help me? 20:10 < new_student> s/distribution/distribute 20:10 < catbeard> btsync 20:10 < Atro> yes, get a better network 20:11 < new_student> The network is good, all 10G 20:11 < new_student> But I don't want the sync to take all of it 20:12 < catbeard> set limits 20:12 < new_student> Is btsync open source? 20:14 < catbeard> iirc 20:14 < catbeard> might be Resilio now 20:48 < rpifan> yummy linch 20:56 < abakedapplepie> fuck yardwork 20:56 < abakedapplepie> :| 20:56 < abakedapplepie> so hot 20:59 < catbeard> this fucking joomla site is getting hammered 20:59 < catbeard> and contact form doesn't have a fucking captcha 20:59 < catbeard> gdi 21:00 < abakedapplepie> protip: joomla sucks 21:00 < catbeard> i know that 21:00 < abakedapplepie> wordpress > django > joomla 21:01 < rpifan> its rainy 21:01 < rpifan> and sad 21:10 < new_student> catbeard: rslsync works !! I just need to figure out why my config file isn't working the way I want it to 21:20 < rpifan> well i got paid 15 bucks for doing a small comptuer fix 21:20 < rpifan> i do love doing little computer odd jobs 21:21 < DSee> Hello... My CompTIA will be expiring soon (under 1 yr)... what cert from them should I take to prevent that? looking for options 21:30 < Atro> idk, get a CCNA 21:32 < DSee> Atro, CCNA != CompTIA 21:32 < DSee> you need another CompTIA so your current CompTIA don't expire 21:39 < _Straffer> rpifan: i think its fun to realize that you have a skill that you can use to sustain yourself. 21:43 < rpifan> well 21:43 < rpifan> its not good enough 21:43 < rpifan> cuase when i dont have a formal job i starve 21:51 < DSee> I am thinking about getting a Microsoft certification.. never thought I would say that 21:55 < _Straffer> which one? 21:55 < _Straffer> rpifan I see as getting good enough 21:55 < _Straffer> you're sharpening skills each time you use them 22:07 < gavit> got an asrock motherboard, booted up, went in bios, changed some settings, and now it gets stuck on press f2 to enter setup. Capslock, numlock and ctrl + alt + del seem to cause a reaction, but f2 nor del do not :( 22:07 < gavit> any clue on what I could do 22:08 <@killdash9> you tried things other than f2 on boot like Del or F1 or F12? 22:12 < silentfury-s4pro> reset the cmos 22:15 < DSee> F12 PXE boot, Ghost! re-image it 22:16 < gavit> silentfury-s4pro: I dont see an option to reset the C2750D4I 22:16 < silentfury-s4pro> there's always a jumper 22:16 < gavit> killdash9: the manual says f2 and del 22:16 < silentfury-s4pro> https://forums.tweaktown.com/asrock/55780-c2750d4i-ipmi-interface.html 22:16 < silentfury-s4pro> CLRCMOS1 jumper 22:17 < silentfury-s4pro> and remove the battery 22:17 < gavit> silentfury-s4pro: I see something that looks like a jumper, but it seems to be called non maskable interupt button 22:18 < silentfury-s4pro> check the manual as the thread says? 22:19 < gavit> I removed the battery as well, manual doesnt say much about this: https://images10.newegg.com/UploadFilesForNewegg/itemintelligence/ASRock/C2550D4I1403331666710.pdf 22:19 < gavit> let me check if I can find CLRCMOS1 22:21 < gavit> I see a CLRCMOS1 in the manual, but there is no jumper there. Looks like 2 solder points 22:22 < gavit> silentfury-s4pro: guess that's what the thread says, its a 'jumper of sort' 22:23 < silentfury-s4pro> gotta shorts those solder points apparently 22:23 < abakedapplepie> ^ 22:23 < abakedapplepie> i just found it too 22:23 < abakedapplepie> its a little insane they dont mention it 22:24 < abakedapplepie> its on the mobo diagram in tiny text 22:24 < silentfury-s4pro> it's what you get for buying value brand mobo's, sadly. 22:24 < abakedapplepie> its not mentioned in the manual at all though lol 22:24 < abakedapplepie> i wouldnt consider asrock a value brand 22:24 < gavit> also see that he fixed it by flashing his bios again 22:24 < abakedapplepie> ive had nothing but great experiences with asrock 22:25 < abakedapplepie> not so much asus 22:25 < abakedapplepie> but yeah just jumper it with a staple or something 22:25 < abakedapplepie> are they pads or empty holes 22:27 < gavit> I found a tweezer 22:27 < gavit> I have no more flathead screwdrivers it seems 22:28 < gavit> yup, the shorting of those 2 solder points helped 22:28 < silentfury-s4pro> i take crypto currency of all variety :) 22:28 < agris> what does it mean if your co-worker smells like feces every day 22:29 < agris> every day. and he is in his 20s 22:29 < silentfury-s4pro> agris: they probably have a medical condition? 22:32 <@killdash9> or they live in a slum filled with cat shit or something and the stench is all over their clothes and they can't smell it 22:33 < agris> It's really awkward. i keep my mouth shut about it but i try to avoid his whole cubicle if i can because of it 22:34 < agris> He also takes the business's competitors really strangely like it's personal to him 22:34 < silentfury-s4pro> agris: This is why we have the [mostly useless and usually backstabbing] things called managers. 22:34 < silentfury-s4pro> or HR, if you wanted to make it a workplace 'health' issue. 23:33 * gavit should really check what this cryptocurrency is all about 23:35 <@cryptic1> probably shouldn't gavit 23:35 <@cryptic1> wait too late 23:35 <@cryptic1> way too late i mean 23:37 < MrFantastik> hey guys, im restoring a openwrt router to its factory default, im running the firstboot script and it just seems to hang 23:38 < MrFantastik> like if i hit enter afterwords it goes back to a shell even if its not "done" 23:38 < MrFantastik> and the router doesn't reboot 23:38 < MrFantastik> is it normally a long process and i need to be patient? --- Log closed Sun May 27 00:00:34 2018