--- Log opened Wed May 30 00:00:37 2018
00:01 < scwizard> apparently not really
00:08 < joelazot> hello
00:08 < joelazot> meme teen is back yet again
00:08 < Jekotia> Oh, scwizard, you're finally around! I forget what it was now (there's basically a new broken docker thing I tackle daily), but that thing you tried to help me with in docker is working :)
00:09 < scwizard> that's good
00:09 < scwizard> hi
00:09 < joelazot> How is everyone
00:09 < scwizard> bleh
00:09 < Jekotia> Oh wait it wasn't docker, I don't think. That's why I don't remember xD
00:09 < scwizard> need to migrate the prod database
00:09 < scwizard> so not so good :(
00:09 < Jekotia> :(
00:09 < joelazot> :(
00:10 < scwizard> it's in ec2-classic which is bad
00:10 < scwizard> so while we're moving it into a vpc we might as well switch to auora
00:10 < scwizard> and nothing could possibly go wrong of course
00:10 < xamithan> Just drink more liquor
00:12 <+giant_it_burrit> killdash9:
00:12 < scwizard> my boss is telling me it should be clean with the aws db migration service but
00:12 <+giant_it_burrit> did you respond bby
00:12 < scwizard> i've just had awful experiences with db migrations so I'm less optimistic
00:14 < catbeard> just mysqldump from an authorized ip
00:14 < scwizard> hahaha no
00:14 < joelazot> lol
00:14 < scwizard> (i've done that before)
00:14 < scwizard> (like db mirations basically by hand)
00:14 < catbeard> same
00:14 < scwizard> (don't do that)
00:15 < catbeard> esp when i don't have mysql or phpma access
00:15 < catbeard> if i have ftp i'll use mysqldumper
00:18 < joelazot> I think when i get my R710 my homelab is gonna mimic a production environment
00:19 < joelazot> if the network goes down even tho its not my fault, i get yelled at
00:19 < joelazot> I'll get used to it i geuss!
00:19 < joelazot> :D
00:20 < catbeard> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebILIKHi9wo
00:20 < xamithan> You can't mimic production with just one server
00:20 < xamithan> no HA,  no redundancy,  no failover
00:20 < joelazot> I can mimic a shitty prod environment tho
00:21 < xamithan> a 2004 production environment ;P
00:21 < joelazot> ^
00:21 < joelazot> Who needs more than one DC? /s
00:22 < Hunterkll> xamithan, the fuck you can't
00:22 < Hunterkll> xamithan, nested hyper-v
00:22 < Hunterkll> fuckin run hyper-v cluster on top of hyper-v
00:22 < joelazot> oh hi hunterkll
00:22 < Hunterkll> then run more hyper-v inside of it
00:23 < Hunterkll> then run ESXi on the 4th layer
00:23 < Hunterkll> throw on some netware 6
00:23 < Hunterkll> and we're golden
00:24 < joelazot> lmao
00:24 < scwizard> why does AWS want to make a final snapshot of a prod cluster with no instances O_o
00:24 < scwizard> what is there to take a snapshot of?
00:25 < joelazot> After getting a R710 I need to make a getto storage solution for backups
00:26 < joelazot> and to mimic a bad prod env i won't have offsite backups :^) /s
00:27 < scwizard> just like at my old job T_T
00:27 < scwizard> kinda my fault but kinda also my first job so
00:27 < xe0n> loll
00:31 < SynMonger> offsite backup is for wusses
00:31 < xamithan> offsite monitoring is cool though
00:32 < scwizard> "resource aws_autoscaling_lifecycle_hook doesn't support import" fake and gay
00:33 < scwizard> xe0n: long story short... hurricane sandy
00:35 <+NinjaStyle> scwizard: my go-to justification was 9/11
00:35 < SynMonger> thupathtorm thandy
00:35 <+NinjaStyle> unexpected shit can and does happen
00:35 < abakedapplepie> or the illuminati
00:35 < abakedapplepie> or lizard people
00:35 < scwizard> can and did happen :(
00:35 < abakedapplepie> or obama
00:36 < scwizard> it wasn't fun
00:36 < abakedapplepie> i usually blame obama for most things
00:36 < abakedapplepie> or aliens
00:37 < SynMonger> we had a tornado hit the campus about 9 years ago... the ones that remember it OK any sort of disaster recovery we put forward
00:37 < joelazot> how do i convince my friend to try blue cheese
00:37 < SynMonger> tell them it tastes like band-aids
00:38 < xe0n> lolol roseanne
00:38 <+NinjaStyle> lol systemdave
00:39 <+NinjaStyle> SynMonger: *
00:39 < technonerd> have you ever told a joke and lost your job?
00:39 <+NinjaStyle> not yet technonerd
00:39 < xamithan> No.
00:39 < SynMonger> no, I'm a humorless fuck at work just for this reason
00:42 <+NinjaStyle> i wish there was a good laptop
00:42 < xe0n> lolll
00:42 <+NinjaStyle> like what the macbook pro used to be
00:42 < xe0n> maybe you're being unrealistic?
00:43 <+NinjaStyle> i dont think so
00:43 <+NinjaStyle> i want a good trackpad, solid case, small bezel, decent keyboard and a few ports
00:44 <+NinjaStyle> and relatively lightweight
00:44 <+NinjaStyle> i want more than 16GB ram too though if possible
00:44 < abakedapplepie> i still love my macbook pro
00:44 < technonerd> i drank the koolaid am stuck with 4gb of ram :(
00:44 < abakedapplepie> original retina 15"
00:45 < abakedapplepie> i7
00:45 < abakedapplepie> ssd
00:45 < technonerd> i like my air
00:45 < abakedapplepie> does just fine
00:45 < Hunterkll> wtf i can't find any tpms
00:47 < Hunterkll> i shoulld have at least 1 or 2 here....
00:50 <@cryptic1> evening
00:50 < joelazot> hello cryptic
00:50 <@cryptic1> whats up
00:51 < joelazot> not much
00:51 < joelazot> hopefully getting a r710
00:51 < joelazot> hopefully not as retarded as i think i am
00:51 < Hunterkll> nah
00:51 < Hunterkll> u worse
00:51 < joelazot> so yeah lifes doin alright, what about you cryptic1?
00:52 < joelazot> hunterkll: :(
00:52 < joelazot> anyway
00:52 < joelazot> cya guys
00:52 < joelazot> retard out
00:52 < joelazot> meme teen
00:52 <+giant_it_burrit> bye bbyt
00:52 < Hunterkll> joelazot, remember, if you have to ask... ;)
00:59 < SleePy> It all went well.  upgraded bios on all sans and hypervisors today...  What boring fun that was
01:00 < jay-ros> morning all
01:00 < Hunterkll> SleePy, i prefer to do that remotely while at family thanksgiving dinner
01:00 < Hunterkll> ;)
01:00  * Hunterkll yawns
01:00 < jay-ros> Hunterkll - that's a great idea
01:00 < Hunterkll> 3.5 hours tilll the 24 hour awake mark and then slleep time
01:00 < Hunterkll> and my slleep pattern shalll be resetted
01:01 < Hunterkll> jay-ros, see, but i do shit right, so i'm not worried about failures
01:01 < SleePy> I dislike remotely doing the BIOS, because the BMC usually updates.  Its always a hear stopper while you wait to see if your remote session restores.
01:01 < Hunterkll> alright!
01:01 < Hunterkll> detects all ram
01:01 < Hunterkll> excelllent
01:01 < Hunterkll> both procs, very good, very good
01:02  * Hunterkll is finally finshing reassembling the good hypervisor lol
01:02  * jay-ros is looking at a hyperv cluster his boss broke a second time
01:02  * xe0n wants coffee
01:02  * jay-ros has red bull
01:02 < SleePy> Don't give them admin access to the cluster
01:02  * Hunterkll has no blood in caffine vessels
01:03 < jay-ros> This is why I like you guys :)
01:04 < ThatOneRoadie> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donnie_Yen#Real_fighting_experience_and_prowess
01:04 < ThatOneRoadie> So Donnie Yen was the blind monk in rogue one
01:05 < ThatOneRoadie> and a couple more movies
01:05 < ThatOneRoadie> "Yen was at a nightclub with his then girlfriend, Joey Meng. Inside the nightclub, Meng was harassed by a troublesome gang that had taken an interest in her. Yen warned them to leave her alone, but they persisted to cause trouble. As Yen and Meng left the club, the gang followed and attacked Yen. Yen beat up eight members of the gang who were later hospitalized."
01:05 < xe0n> lolol
01:08 < jay-ros> Why do I feel that a 'troublesome gang' would need to have spiked leather jackets with no sleeves, mohawks and piercings to earn that moniker?
01:09 < xe0n> ride motorbikes
01:09 < xe0n> or bmx
01:09 < xe0n> bmx bandits
01:10 < jay-ros> There has to be the sound of an empty can being kicked as they approach Meng
01:10 < xe0n> lol
01:10 < xe0n> "who's there?!?1"
01:11 < xe0n> it'll be like the scene from tmnt with the pizza delivery dude
01:11 < xe0n> gets jumped by shredder's gang
01:11 < xe0n> turtles come out and kick ass
01:11 < jay-ros> And one of them has to have a left shoulder drop, right hip over-exaggerated swing as he walks, with a toothpick in his mouth
01:11 < xe0n> they look like they're from the lost boys
01:12 < jay-ros> I'm picturing the lost boys
01:12 < xe0n> kiefer
01:13 < jay-ros> One of them in the background needs to look like spike from buffy :P
01:13 < xe0n> LOL
01:20 < jay-ros> fuck... I wanted to jump onto the data centre cluster updating, but these numpties killed the sydney side
01:27 < rpifan> hi
01:27 < rpifan> werk is starting to get serious
01:28 < rpifan> im finally annoying ppl enough
01:28 < rpifan> that there like ok fine what do u need
01:28 < rpifan> lets get it over iwth
01:30 < xe0n> loll
01:30 < xe0n> sounds professional..
01:30 < rpifan> well actually its been much more welcome then that
01:30 < rpifan> i think ppl are sorta taking me serious now
01:31 < rpifan> i had a very cute dev over my shoulder looking at the db issues
01:31 < rpifan> and he was like damn it why dont we have an autoincrement PK
01:33 < rpifan> another dev guy was also clamoring for a DBA and i said i agreed
01:39 < xe0n> so the first thing you'll ask for is wfh? :P
01:40 < rpifan> im already wfh
01:40 < rpifan> i did friday and i will again tommorow
01:40 < rpifan> mostly because of drs appointments and passport lines
01:40 < jay-ros> so... the cute dev...
01:40 < rpifan> idk how long theyll tolerate it
01:40 < rpifan> but the other guy takes off like twice a week to stay home
01:42 <+NinjaStyle> glad it is getting better for you rpifan
01:42 < rpifan> well idk again the autism means there might be a lot of bad happening
01:42 < rpifan> and i simply cant see it
01:45 < Casteil> finally coaxed some friends over for a swim lol
01:45 < rpifan> i dislike swiming
01:45 < rootsudo> Today was my first day as sharepoint admin
01:45 < rootsudo> I did nothing
01:45 < xe0n> beach rocks
01:46 < rootsudo> I interiewed and accepted a remote job
01:46 < rootsudo> so now I'll work a remote jb as I work in the office and let's see what happens
01:46 < xe0n> Casteil: pool or beach?
01:46 < rootsudo> I have two more this week
01:46 < Casteil> my pool
01:46 < rootsudo> My idea is to outsource all my work
01:46 < xe0n> oh so moon lighting
01:46 < xe0n> lol
01:46 < rootsudo> and live a free life
01:46 < rootsudo> or watch it all blow up
01:47 <+NinjaStyle> lol
01:47 < rpifan> lol
01:48 < rpifan> rootsudo, can u get me one plz
01:48 < jay-ros> lol
01:48 < rpifan> plzz
01:48 < rpifan> jay-ros, yes the cute dev
01:48 < rootsudo> rpifan perhaps
01:48 < jay-ros> rpifan - your phrasing at the time suggested the cute dev was at your home ;)
01:48 < rpifan> i wsih
01:49 < xe0n> lolll
01:49 < rpifan> he has a child
01:49 < Casteil> bit late coming over though, it'll be at least 8 by the time they get here and I've already swam and kinda checked in for the night
01:49 < rpifan> but idk now a days gays have kids
01:49 < jay-ros> rpifan - enthusiastically?
01:50 < jay-ros> oh, caffeine hasn't kicked in
01:50 < rpifan> ?
01:50 < xe0n> im about to get a coffee once im done with the last 3 tablets i need to fix :|
01:50 < jay-ros> I read "how gays have try to have kids" for some reason
01:50 < rpifan> lol
01:50 < rpifan> believe it or not
01:50 < jay-ros> blurred reading while I'm working
01:50 < rpifan> my spelling and grammar
01:50 < rpifan> on our confluence is quite superior
01:51 <+NinjaStyle> i keep getting kudos at work
01:51 <+NinjaStyle> for like 4 hours worth of work
01:51 < rpifan> lol
01:51 <+NinjaStyle> weird
01:51 < rpifan> NinjaStyle, wanna be our dba
01:51 < jay-ros> What, people telling you're doing a great job?
01:51 <+NinjaStyle> eeeeeeee
01:51 < jay-ros> I believe it
01:52 < xe0n> i believe it when im paid in beer
01:52 < jay-ros> I believe in beer too
01:52 < rpifan> meh
01:52 <+NinjaStyle> jay-ros: yeah like "Nice work NinjaStyle !"
01:52 < rpifan> id rather be paid in pizza
01:52 < rpifan> or ice cream
01:52 < jay-ros> I'd rather be paid in homes - like, three a year
01:53 < jay-ros> "have another house jay-ros!"
01:53 < jay-ros> "Oh, thanks!"
01:53 < rpifan> lol
01:53 < rpifan> ur stripper houses
01:53 <+NinjaStyle> i'd rather be paid in cash
01:53 < rpifan> nah
01:53 < rpifan> cash is nasty
01:53 < rpifan> tool of beaougois
01:53 < jay-ros> Then in four years, when I've accumulated a total of twelve houses on three streets in the same area
01:53 < aName> I mean, I get paid in houses.
01:53 < xe0n> pay me in weed
01:53 < jay-ros> ...I can upgrade to hotels!
01:53 < aName> It's just fractional.
01:54 < rpifan> lol
01:54 < aName> jay-ros: Difficulty: Vernon Place
01:54 < jay-ros> aName - that's Tasmania
01:54 < jay-ros> I'd also like to come at least second in a beauty contest at some point
01:55 < rpifan> lol
01:55 < rpifan> r u lanky and skinny
01:55 < rpifan> u might win in the grindr award
01:55 < jay-ros> No, I'm a metal dog
01:55 < aName> Did someone say twinks?
01:55 < jay-ros> dug
01:55 < jay-ros> duh*
01:55 < rpifan> yes
01:55 <@cryptic1> wtf have I returned to?
01:55 < rpifan> idk
01:55 < Hunterkll> shit
01:55 < Hunterkll> fuck
01:55 < jay-ros> cryptic1 - fuck knows
01:55 < Hunterkll> uh
01:55  * Hunterkll finds some fucked up shit to post real quick
01:55 < jay-ros> everyone... act casual
01:55 < rpifan> rootsudo, was offering me rotemot work
01:56 < Hunterkll> cryptic1, we all chipped in and bought you this cablle https://i.imgur.com/SH3jX3w.png
01:56 <+NinjaStyle> rootsudo took er jerbs
01:56 < Hunterkll> cryptic1, here look at this https://i.imgur.com/4owkRdc.png
01:56 < rootsudo> lol
01:56 < Hunterkll> cryptic1, don't forget to put your PCIe graphics card in your pentium II machine https://i.imgur.com/piK14Iz.png
01:57 < Hunterkll> and uh
01:57 < Hunterkll> have a fishing rod
01:57 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/8xW3ejk.png
01:57 < Hunterkll> there
01:57 < Hunterkll> i made up for not being here before cryptic1 came back
01:57 <+giant_it_burrit> they used a mosin nagant?
01:57 <+giant_it_burrit> rlyt?
01:57 < rpifan> the golden rod was the best one
01:58 < rpifan> super rod
01:58 < xe0n> jay-ros: how much you for a coffee in syd these days?
01:58 < xe0n> $4?
01:59 < jay-ros> 4-4.50
01:59 < xe0n> yeah, go figure
01:59 < jay-ros> You can get it cheaper but they don't really exist, right?
01:59 < jay-ros> Tobys or bust
01:59 < rpifan> doesnt ur office
01:59 < rpifan> make coffee for u
01:59 < jay-ros> There's a jar of mud
01:59 < xe0n> it's crap
01:59 < jay-ros> ...I don't mind instant mud
01:59 < rpifan> we have a gourmet 3000 dollar machine
02:00 < rpifan> that makes coffee tea
02:00 < rpifan> soup
02:00 < rpifan> mocha
02:00 < rpifan> cappucino
02:00 < jay-ros> depends if I'm drinking coffee for the holistic or the medicinal purposes
02:00 < jay-ros> that's insane
02:00 < rpifan> plus 3 kind of starbucks coffee
02:00 < rpifan> and a macine that makes soda water
02:00 < jay-ros> THat's the one I want - the soda one
02:00 < rpifan> and a beer keg, that i havent seen ayone drink from yet
02:00 < rpifan> it only makes sparkling water no coca cola or anything sadly
02:00 < jay-ros> Yeah, I like soda water
02:01 < rpifan> its actually enjoyable
02:01 < jay-ros> and the sodastream crappy ones taste too much of the carbonation
02:01 < rpifan> cuase its not full of a lot of gas
02:01 < rpifan> i can actually drink it
02:01 < jay-ros> Bring a bottle in from home, fill it, take it home, drink soda that night
02:01 < rpifan> normal fizzy water
02:01 < rpifan> i cant
02:01 < rpifan> it hurts my stomach
02:03 < Hunterkll> heh
02:03 < Hunterkll> ArmA 3's requirements are hillarious
02:04 < Hunterkll> Minimum req: Intel Dual-Core 2.4GHz, 4GB ram, nVidia 9800GT
02:04 < Hunterkll> Recommended: Intel Core i5-4460, 6GB ram, GTX 660
02:25 < genr8___> GTX 780 still a good card
02:26 < xe0n> simon says get the fuck up
02:30 < voidstar> I'm still running a 660ti
02:30 < xe0n> i'm still running on two legs
02:31 < voidstar> step up, nerd
02:31 < Jekotia> A local burrito place, like many places, has the server's name on the receipt. It takes all of my self control not to try and tell them to use a regular user and why this is bad when I see "Server: Admin" on it every time :|
02:32 < xe0n> it's easy, just pretend you didnt see it
02:32 < nohusuro> Jekotia: how do you know their name isn't admin?
02:33 < xe0n> i'd be more concerned about getting the food than what their computer system is
02:33 < Jekotia> mobomelter: Because it says admin no matter who serves me.
02:33 < mobomelter> Who
02:33 < Jekotia> mobomelter: typing + tab fail. Ignore me!
02:34 < Jekotia> nohusuro: Because it says admin no matter who serves me.
02:34 < nohusuro> lol. I saw what you wrote
02:34 < Jekotia> nohusuro: I assume everyone has an attention span like mine until proven otherwise
02:48 < admiralspark> yo
02:48 < admiralspark> any news on the Bethesda announcement?
02:48 < rpifan> hi
02:48 < rpifan> im wating for pokeon
02:48 < admiralspark> I'm waiting for it to be cancelled :P
02:49 < rpifan> wh
03:14 < jay-ros> Pokemon not going yet?
03:14 < rpifan> is it started
03:17 < jay-ros> Fuck me, 1hr meeting, 6 'urgent' requests
03:17 < jay-ros> I'm so goddamn popular
03:17 < rpifan> we have daiy meetings
03:17 < rpifan> its sad
03:17 < jay-ros> I was in a meeting Hunterkll might've enjoyed
03:17 < Hunterkll> no
03:18 <+NinjaStyle> Ayy
03:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> jay-ros: dude I feel you lol
03:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> i had 40 tickets thir morning, had an hour meeting... in that meeting corporate gave me 3 "urgent" tasks
03:22 < rpifan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaOPrSwL8AI
03:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> I hate that shit, cause you have to ignore everything else to do corporates shit
03:22 < rpifan> there u go
03:22 < jay-ros> Nah, this was interesting as fuck
03:22 < jay-ros> purecloud has a backend that can do inter-site LUN failover
03:22 < jay-ros> ...which you can set your SQL databases to use shared volumes on both sides
03:23 < jay-ros> have clustering on each site, and if the site goes down, the other site is using the same 'virtually bridged'?'mirrored'? LUN/Storage disk for the database
03:23 < jay-ros> so clustering on clustering at different data levels
03:26 < rpifan> well its happening
03:26 < rpifan> jay-ros,
03:26 < rpifan> its here
03:26 < rpifan> pokemon lets go evee and pikachu
03:29 < rpifan> https://twitter.com/Pokemon?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
03:32 < MikeSpears> Sup fuckers
03:33 < rpifan> pokemon
03:33 < rpifan> is out
03:33 < rpifan> we got the reveal
03:33 < rpifan> https://t.co/kXLdxUMjjA
03:33 < MikeSpears> Lameeee
03:34 < rpifan> i bought a fucken piece of shit switch
03:34 < rpifan> to play this damned game
03:34 < MikeSpears> Bad gateway error
03:34 < rpifan> its been sitting in my closet
03:34 < rpifan> oh
03:34 < rpifan> https://twitter.com/Pokemon?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
03:34 < MikeSpears> Fucking noob
03:34 < rpifan> yes
03:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> fuckkkk
03:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> I find out tomorrow if I'm getting a job I applied for ;_;
03:40 <+giant_it_burrit> killdash9:
03:40 <+giant_it_burrit> you dirty hooker
03:40 < rpifan> McDonaldsWiFi,
03:40 < rpifan> pokemon lets go
03:40 < xe0n> at maccas?
03:40 < rpifan> is coming out
03:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> not rly a fan of pokemon anymore :(
03:41 < xe0n> pokemon is still a thing?
03:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> same formula since 1995 :/
03:41 < xe0n> no$gmb
03:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> i tried to play pokemon black and it wasn't fun
03:41 < JollyRgrs> once you go black, you never go back?
03:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> huehuehue
03:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> so if i get this job tomorrow, ill officially join the sysadmin squad
03:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> and if i don't, ill drink myself to sleep tomorrow night lol
03:42 < xe0n> suicide squad
03:42 < rpifan> xe0n, ommg
03:42 < rpifan> thats exactly what i played pokemon gold
03:42 < rpifan> on
03:42 < rpifan> in 2000
03:42 < xe0n> lol
03:42 < rpifan> on the old piece of shit machie
03:42 < xe0n> gameshark that shit up
03:42 < rpifan> i never have actually owned a pokemon game
03:42 < rpifan> i bought the nintendo swtich just for this
03:42 < rpifan> its been sitting in my cloest since december
03:43 < Jekotia> rpifan: your t.co link gets redirected to a 502 page, but the url is for a 503 page...
03:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> rpifan: never played zelda?
03:43 < rpifan> never
03:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> zelda is DOPE, but I played it on an emulator
03:43 < rpifan> first game my parents bought me
03:43 < rpifan> was mario 64
03:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> breath of the wild is seriously dope
03:43 < rpifan> nah
03:43 < rpifan> im all mario
03:43 < rpifan> and pokemon
03:43 < rpifan> gimme the good dope
03:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> i played it with the 60fps mod and it was dopex2
03:44 < SleePy> The original zelda from nes?
03:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> wat
03:44 < MikeSpears> JollyRgrs: sup nerd
03:44 <+NinjaStyle> Why is everyone talking about Pokemon
03:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> rpifan:
03:44 < MikeSpears> NinjaStyle: because everyone is retarded
03:45 < xe0n> mario 64 lol
03:45 < xe0n> how old are you?
03:45 < MikeSpears> lol
03:45 < SleePy> McDonaldsWiFi: Was asking because you said you played it on a emulator.  Assuming your playing a older Zelda game,
03:46 < rpifan> it jsut came out
03:46 < rpifan> pokemon
03:46 < rpifan> new game revealed
03:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> SleePy: nah man
03:46 < MikeSpears> Mario 64 came out in 1996
03:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> SleePy: breath of the wild came out on wii U as well and there's a wii U emualtor
03:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> ran it just fine, even with the 60 fps hack
03:46 < rpifan> i got it 1998
03:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> rpifan: so pokemon let's go is an extension of poekmon go
03:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> aka, fuck that noise
03:47 < SleePy> Ahh.  I guess I'm old school and played it on NES
03:47 < rpifan> nah
03:47 < SleePy> Or just getting old
03:47 < rpifan> its a remake of yellow
03:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> SleePy: wat
03:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> rpifan: no shit?!
03:47 < MikeSpears> Pokemon is dumb
03:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> OH
03:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> its lets go pikachu and lets go evee
03:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> eevee
03:47 < rpifan> its amazing
03:47 < SleePy> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda_(video_game)
03:47 < rpifan> i want it
03:47 < MikeSpears> LAMEEEEE
03:48 < rpifan> t looks great
03:48 < MikeSpears> Its all about fortnite and pubg
03:48 < rpifan> fuck yea
03:48 < MikeSpears> Fortnite fte
03:48 < MikeSpears> Ftw
03:49 < MikeSpears> Pokemon is garbage
03:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> SleePy: right
03:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> but I'm talking bout breath of the wild
03:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> :D
03:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> MikeSpears: fortnite is just as garb lol
03:49 < rpifan> what
03:49 < rpifan> its my childhood
03:49 < MikeSpears> No
03:49 < rpifan> pokkeemoon
03:49 < MikeSpears> McDonaldsWiFi: no
03:49 < MikeSpears> Fortnite is life
03:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> i remember playing fort when it first came out
03:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> and i was thinking, who in the fuck wants to play this?!
03:50 < SleePy> McDonaldsWiFi: Yea, my bad.  Emulating Wii just didn't cross my mind.
03:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> wii u
03:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> all good ^^
03:50 < xe0n> emulating life
03:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> if you haven't played breath of the wild I highly suggest you do
03:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> emulator or otherwise
03:50 < MikeSpears> xe0n: wouldn't that be second life?
03:50 < rpifan> w/e
03:50 < MikeSpears> Lol
03:50 < rpifan> i dont even know what that is
03:50 < rpifan> dont care
04:00 < Hunterkll> ahhh
04:00 < Hunterkll> my l works properly again!
04:00 < MikeSpears> http://prntscr.com/joc71m this looks fun
04:02 < MikeSpears> http://prntscr.com/joc7kx
04:03 < MikeSpears> close to maxing my line
04:03 < MikeSpears> wish epic had faster servers
04:03 < MikeSpears> for download
04:03 < xe0n> so you can use all of your bandwidth?
04:03 < MikeSpears> yus and download faster
04:06 < McDonaldsWiFi> Hunterkll: huue
04:08 < MikeSpears> xe0n: just because you're jealous of my mighty american internet connection lol
04:08 < Hunterkll> McDonaldsWiFi, new $40 mechanical keyboard
04:08 < SleePy> mbr2gpt is in windows 10 as convert.exe was for xp/2003.
04:08 < Hunterkll> cheaper than buying a batch of switches
04:08 < MikeSpears> doesn't mean you gotta be jealous
04:08 < McDonaldsWiFi> im jelly
04:08 < Hunterkll> McDonaldsWiFi, so now i have 101 spare switches
04:08 < Hunterkll> :)
04:08 < Hunterkll> 102 key keyboard lmao
04:08 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol..
04:08 < xamithan> Since when did americans have mighty internet connections
04:08 < MikeSpears> lol
04:08 < Hunterkll> xamithan, idk i cant hear you over my gigabits
04:08 < xamithan> Go to south korea or japan son
04:08 < MikeSpears> xe0n is aussie
04:09 < Hunterkll> McDonaldsWiFi, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071JDD9ZJ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
04:09 < xamithan> Hunterkll: Die in a fire
04:09 < Hunterkll> McDonaldsWiFi, oh, best part - amazon never got the tracking scan for delivery, so i'll probably get a refund for a keyboard I already have.....
04:09 < xamithan> 60/5 =(
04:09 < Hunterkll> last scan was 'out for delivery'
04:09 < Hunterkll> xamithan, lol but its like 600/15 or 1000/30 or something dumb
04:09 < Hunterkll> so
04:09 < Hunterkll> not that great
04:09 < Hunterkll> but oh well
04:09 < Hunterkll> what can you do
04:10 < xamithan> Yeah I saw a commercial the other day for spectrum upgrading to 200 megabit base.  I'm all like wtf,  I still got 60
04:10 < Adagio> My ISP's weird — most speedtests give me 50/100 or somesuch else
04:10 < MikeSpears> http://www.speedtest.net/result/7351011821
04:10 < Hunterkll> i dunno
04:10 < Hunterkll> steam downloads over 50MB/sec consistently
04:10 < xamithan> They say it'll be gigabit by end of year but I'm skeptical
04:10 < Hunterkll> so i'm happy
04:10 < MikeSpears> xamithan: who's your legacy?
04:10 < xamithan> Charter
04:10 < MikeSpears> make sure you're on spectrum pricing
04:10 < MikeSpears> not legacy
04:10 < xamithan> I'm on spectrum pricing
04:11 < MikeSpears> weird
04:11 < MikeSpears> then you should be at least 100
04:11 < xamithan> Area just sucks,  rural
04:11 < MikeSpears> ah
04:11 < MikeSpears> I work for Spectrum, but I only deal with legacy BHN
04:11 < xamithan> I'm sure they'll fix it by end of year
04:11 < MikeSpears> but the push for gigabit is real
04:11 < xamithan> But meanwhile seeing these commercials is infurating
04:11 < MikeSpears> dude, bitch and complain
04:11 < MikeSpears> its an issue and it needs to be fixed
04:12 < xamithan> I used to work for them,  they don't give a shit
04:12 < MikeSpears> they do lol
04:12 < MikeSpears> I work for them
04:12 < genr8___> 250Mbit is enough
04:12 < Hunterkll> xamithan, my shits so fast i had to put a spoiler on my PC to keep shit down
04:12 < Hunterkll> srsly
04:12 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/isMMwoA.png
04:12 < MikeSpears> genr8___ I want faster
04:12 < xamithan> When they "upgraded" to 100 I got an increase from 59 to 69 on speedtests.  and from 5 upload to 6 upload
04:13 < MikeSpears> there's something wrong there
04:13 < MikeSpears> check for T4 timeouts in your modem logs
04:13 < MikeSpears> 192.168.100.1
04:13 < xamithan> I can't access the modem
04:13 < MikeSpears> yes you can
04:13 < MikeSpears> 192.168.100.1
04:13 < xamithan> What is the password
04:13 < MikeSpears> shouldn't need one
04:13 < xamithan> They won't give it out
04:13 < genr8___> that doesnt route unless the internet isnt routed
04:13 < MikeSpears> what modem do you have?
04:13 < xamithan> Some Arris one combined with phone
04:14 < MikeSpears> admin/password
04:14 < Hunterkll> genr8___, yes it damn well does route
04:14 < MikeSpears> its public info
04:14 < MikeSpears> 192.168.0.1
04:14 < Hunterkll> genr8___, unless you're intentionally blocking outbound bogons (most routers won't )
04:14 < Hunterkll> EVERYTHING the router doesn't know goes out the WAN port
04:14 < Hunterkll> the modem intercepts its address
04:14 < MikeSpears> if its not admin/password, check the labels, and factory reset it
04:15 < MikeSpears> but you can access your modem if its one that does wifi also
04:15 < xamithan> It doesn't
04:15 < MikeSpears> if its just a modem, you can still access signal levels/logs
04:15 < genr8___> its not like you can change anything in there
04:15 < MikeSpears> shouldn't need a pw
04:15 < genr8___> so whats the point
04:15 < MikeSpears> view signal levels/logs
04:15 < Hunterkll> genr8___, see channel/signal info so you have half a clue
04:15 < SleePy> Its a debug portal basically
04:15 < MikeSpears> yup
04:16 < MikeSpears> I have the tech pw to the arris modems lol
04:16 < Hunterkll> i call in my ISP and i'm like "X signal, Y channels, Z issue" and they're like "oh okay head end we're rolling a truck now bye"
04:16 < MikeSpears> exactly
04:17 < MikeSpears> I love customers like hunterkll, drops my AHT like a rocki
04:17 < MikeSpears> rock*
04:17 < xamithan> Ghost calls do that too
04:17 < MikeSpears> that too lol
04:17 < Hunterkll> MikeSpears, yea, but like, i'm also the difficult ones
04:17 < MikeSpears> not for the phone side
04:17 < MikeSpears> haha
04:18 < Hunterkll> MikeSpears, they sent a NOC guy out to collect a NIC from me once because it would take down a head end when hooked to the modem directly
04:18 < Hunterkll> all numeric, no letters in the MAC
04:18 < Hunterkll> but if i spoofed the mac, everything was fine
04:18 < MikeSpears> that's actually awesome
04:18 < genr8___> odd
04:18 < xamithan> Someone had the same mac at the head end ?
04:18 < Hunterkll> cisco bug
04:18 < Hunterkll> :P
04:18 < xamithan> Ah.
04:18 < Hunterkll> xamithan, nah no way
04:18 < Hunterkll> this mac wasn't even right for the brand card it was
04:18 < Hunterkll> the OUI didn't exist
04:18 < Hunterkll> etc
04:19 < Hunterkll> the tier-1 is awsome too
04:19 < Hunterkll> we were troubleshooting that issue and i paused when he asked me which version of windows I was running
04:19 < Hunterkll> and he said "Or UNIX or Linux or OS X "
04:19 < Hunterkll> and I when "whew. Solaris 9"
04:19 < Hunterkll> I was using a sun sparcclassic as a router
04:19 < xamithan> chasms was my favorite site working there
04:19 < xamithan> Screw phone support for end users though
04:20 < jay-ros> Fuck MYOB
04:20 < jay-ros> fuck it with a big ol' piece of rusty metal
04:20 < Hunterkll> wait no
04:20 < jay-ros> Citrix: Running office 2016 64 bit, because we've got financial staff with excel documents
04:20 < Hunterkll> it was an LX
04:20 < Hunterkll> with 128MB ram
04:20 < Hunterkll> lol
04:20 < jay-ros> MYOB: only supports 32 bit
04:20 < jay-ros> I hate you, MYOB
04:26 < MikeSpears> well fuck... can't play fortnite on my hackintosh.. its laggy as fuck
04:26 < Hunterkll> lol
04:26 < Hunterkll> need more 1080ti
04:26 < MikeSpears> nah
04:26 < MikeSpears> its fine on windows
04:26 < MikeSpears> fortnite running like shit is common on mac
04:27 < MikeSpears> may end up killing my hackintosh and going back to windows
04:27 < xamithan> Go linux
04:28 < MikeSpears> thought about it, but again, fortnite
04:28 < MikeSpears> and I like outlook too much
04:28 < xamithan> What?!.
04:28 < xamithan> Who likes outlook
04:28 <+NinjaStyle> I wish I had a gaming pc
04:28 < MikeSpears> alot of people
04:28 < Hunterkll> xamithan, people who get shit done
04:28 < xamithan> https://www.reddit.com/r/FORTnITE/comments/6rtlki/fortnite_on_linux_it_works/
04:28 < Hunterkll> I've yet to find a good replacement for outlook since 2001
04:28 < jay-ros> Hunterkll - I miss groupwise
04:28 < Hunterkll> When I was pretty much linux only from 2004 to 2011
04:28 < Hunterkll> I still ran outlook in WINE
04:28 < xamithan> Isn't o365 online anyway?
04:29 < xamithan> Do they have an outlook365
04:29 < Hunterkll> because thunderbird and mutt and shit choked on my fuckin' mailboxes
04:29 < jay-ros> xamithan - yeah but you can connect microsoft office to outlook365
04:29 < Hunterkll> but outlook in WINE didn't
04:29 < Hunterkll> that's a horrible way to describe it
04:29 < xamithan> Ah that makes sense
04:29 < MikeSpears> outlook 2016 uses less ram than thunderturd
04:29 < Hunterkll> xamithan, there's OWA (outlook web access) whiuch exchange provides, which is webmail, and there's desktop outlook client
04:29 < Hunterkll> yea
04:29 < MikeSpears> also fuck webmail for multiple accounts
04:29 < jay-ros> yea
04:29 < Hunterkll> outlook has always been better at handling huge mailboxes and shitloads of data and beter search
04:29 < xamithan> fuck webmail for anything
04:29 < JollyRgrs> didn't they stop working on thunderbird?
04:29 < xamithan> I'd rather use mutt
04:30 < MikeSpears> OWA is decent
04:30 < Hunterkll> yea
04:30 < Hunterkll> OWA is one of the best for webmail really
04:30 < Hunterkll> better than gmail to be honest
04:30 < JollyRgrs> i used to use thunderbird all the time when i had like 3-4 pop3 accounts
04:30 < xamithan> It still gets security updates,  but as far as features they consider it done.  Thunderbird that is
04:30 < Hunterkll> well
04:30 < xe0n> exchange > *
04:30 < JollyRgrs> OWA is pretty good, i prefer google's inbox for personal emails
04:30 < Hunterkll> but see
04:30 < xamithan> I really like thunderbird though.  It does all I need it to
04:30 < Hunterkll> you gotta be pro like me
04:30 < MikeSpears> fuck it
04:30  * MikeSpears is killing the hackintosh
04:30 < Hunterkll> I gotta know my O365 shit even though i hate cloud anything
04:30 < JollyRgrs> xamithan: what does tbird do for you?
04:30 < Hunterkll> so i set up my new email domain on O365 enterprise
04:31 < MikeSpears> O365 is bae
04:31 < Hunterkll> you can email me at
04:31 < xamithan> It opens multiple email accounts with ease
04:31 < Hunterkll> cocaine.support@cocainedealers.club
04:31 < JollyRgrs> you know what it did for me? kept me locked in to an email program
04:31 < JollyRgrs> now i just use web access for gmail and o365 at home
04:31 < JollyRgrs> works great
04:31 < Hunterkll> heh
04:31 < xamithan> I don't need any fancy features or whistles like filtering, spam, calender
04:31 < JollyRgrs> and if i need "right now" push style notifications... oh, i got all my emails on my phone, too
04:31 < Hunterkll> xamithan, i used outlook 2003 back in like, 2005, running in WINE, to do bulk mail migrations between separate mail server environments
04:31 < Hunterkll> because it was faster
04:31 < Hunterkll> -_-
04:31 <@cryptic1> WE HAVE UPDATED OUR PRIVACY POLICY
04:31 <@cryptic1> WE HAVE UPDATED OUR PRIVACY POLICY
04:31 <@cryptic1> WE HAVE UPDATED OUR PRIVACY POLICY
04:31 <@cryptic1> WE HAVE UPDATED OUR PRIVACY POLICY
04:31 <@cryptic1> WE HAVE UPDATED OUR PRIVACY POLICY
04:31 < Hunterkll> i would drag half a gig of mail from one account to the other
04:31 < Hunterkll> lol
04:32 < rpifan> lol
04:32 <@cryptic1> Your thoughts are now the property of r/sysadmin
04:32 < Hunterkll> but yes, please, feel free to contact me at my new email address of cocaine.support@cocainedealers.club
04:32 < xe0n> loll
04:32 < xamithan> Thought Contagion
04:33 < xe0n> im hungry
04:33 < xe0n> whats for lunch
04:33 < Hunterkll> If you are interested in cocaine products, I can add you as a prospective customer in our Dynamics 365 CRM
04:33 < Hunterkll> and schedule you in and maybe share some of our process documents from our sharepoint site
04:33 < Hunterkll> Our affiliate, amazon, sells all the cocaine accessories you need
04:33 < Hunterkll> (i'm not fucking joking about amazon)
04:33 < xamithan> Of course they do.  They have the marketplace
04:34 < MikeSpears> ugh fuck my 20 Mbps upload
04:34 < aName> Hunterkll: Do they have McDonald's spoons?
04:34 < xe0n> they have happy meal toys
04:34 < MikeSpears> doing a quick backup of my desktop
04:34 < MikeSpears> before reinstalling
04:34 < xamithan> I've been doing a backup of my desktop for a few months now on my 5 meg
04:34 < MikeSpears> lel
04:34 < jay-ros> Hey cryptic1 - just an FYI, I've updated my privacy policy
04:34 < xamithan> I've got 20 terabytes
04:34 < xe0n> i've updated my policy privacy
04:34 < MikeSpears> fuck
04:34 < Hunterkll> aName, need a place to hide your stash? fake bottom lighters https://www.amazon.com/Jcuniversal-Regular-Lighter-Diversion-Assorted/dp/B00KZ2H4MA/ref=sr_1_27?ie=UTF8&qid=1527647643&sr=8-27&keywords=cocaine
04:35 <@cryptic1> jay-ros, please do not talk to me until I have approved your privacy policy change
04:35 < Hunterkll> aName, need a full snuff kit with mirror, bottle, spoon, bullet, etc? https://www.amazon.com/Snuff-Stuff-M001-Leather-Midnight/dp/B01BMN004O/ref=sr_1_35?ie=UTF8&qid=1527647667&sr=8-35&keywords=cocaine
04:35 < aName> That's such a terrible diversion
04:35 < MikeSpears> xamithan: rent a dedicated server and ship them a USB drive
04:35 < xe0n> i've got a stash box that looks like a rubik's cube
04:35 < Hunterkll> yes friends
04:35 < Hunterkll> you can buy a full range of cocaine acessories
04:35 < xamithan> I figure I can do about 1 teras a month.  So i'll finish sometime around 2020
04:35 < Hunterkll> on amazon
04:35 < jay-ros> thanks for your message cryptic1! Just a reminder that I've updated my privacy policy. You can find the details on zombo.com
04:35 < MikeSpears> a friend of mine has one that looks like a pepsi can
04:36 < Hunterkll> aName, this mini spoon is prime eligible! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EIRYS6W/ref=sspa_dk_detail_5?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B01EIRYS6W&pd_rd_wg=IM22v&pd_rd_r=B29N2J8Z0KG55BH8FBCA&pd_rd_w=AM91X
04:36 < xamithan> I work in a colo MikeSpears.  I've been thinking about just brining in my desktop for a few days.  But then I wouldn't have it at home
04:36 < Hunterkll> aName, how about a vacuum style snorting straw? https://www.amazon.com/NASAL-VACUUM-Style-SNIFFER-SNORTER/dp/B013OL3CSS/ref=pd_sim_86_5?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B013OL3CSS&pd_rd_r=B29N2J8Z0KG55BH8FBCA&pd_rd_w=rsx0E&pd_rd_wg=IM22v&psc=1&refRID=B29N2J8Z0KG55BH8FBCA
04:36 < MikeSpears> dump the data on an external and plug it into a server?
04:36 < aName> Hunterkll: That's kind of awesome actually
04:36 < MikeSpears> that you own
04:37 < MikeSpears> https://prnt.sc/joch2p
04:37 < MikeSpears> ugh
04:37 < MikeSpears> luckily its not too big
04:37 < Hunterkll> aName, check out these 'drinking straws' https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01I82NZIA/ref=sspa_dk_detail_6?psc=1&smid=A1ZGGLEAXUCFIM
04:37 < xamithan> The App google has is weird.  I don't know how to do that
04:37 < aName> Hunterkll: I mean, I don't snort drugs - but if I did - that vacuum cleaner would be my implement of choice
04:37 < Hunterkll> hahaha
04:37 < Hunterkll> ikr
04:37 < xamithan> It shows up under my computer or something in the google backup and sync.  I don't know how to replicate that if I use an external
04:38 < xamithan> Then afterwards I'm not sure how to sync it back up so it can keep up with changes
04:38 <@cryptic1> [ACTION REQUIRED] WE HAVE UPDATED OUR PRIVACY POLICY
04:38 < MikeSpears> fuck google
04:38 < MikeSpears> I use nextcloud
04:38 < MikeSpears> run my own shit
04:38 <@cryptic1> [PURCHASE CONFIRMATION] WE HAVE UPDATED OUR PRIVACY POLICY
04:38 < aName> Hunterkll: "I'm getting clean, I swear!"
04:38 < xamithan> Well I got a free unlimited space account with google
04:38 < Hunterkll> :D
04:38 < Hunterkll> aName, well you might be cleaning up, that's for sure...
04:38 < MikeSpears> you couldn't pay me to store data with google
04:39 < xamithan> I can't afford more drives or servers.  I'm poor
04:39 < xamithan> Unless someone wants to give me a new job
04:39 < MikeSpears> so am I, but I made it work
04:39 < MikeSpears> ebay ftw
04:39 < MikeSpears> bought 6 2tb enterprise disks for $290 a year ago
04:40 < MikeSpears> how the fuck do you generate so much data that needs to be backed up
04:40 < xamithan> Media
04:40 < MikeSpears> what media?
04:40 < MikeSpears> lol
04:40 < aName> MikeSpears: Our algorithm has detected that your normal day-to-day activities are fraud and has automatically deleted all your data. Goodbye.
04:40 < Adagio> Films and, uh, "films".
04:40 < xamithan> Films and films
04:40 < MikeSpears> stop downloading porn
04:40 < Hunterkll> no
04:40 < Adagio> Phhrt, no, what if the Internet breaks tomorrow?
04:40 < MikeSpears> terrarium
04:40 < Hunterkll> sometimes
04:40 < Hunterkll> the internet goes out
04:40 < Hunterkll> or even
04:40 < Hunterkll> a 7 day power outage
04:40 < xamithan> terrarium has foreign stuff ?
04:40 < Hunterkll> and all i have
04:40 < Hunterkll> is my lan
04:40 < Hunterkll> on generator
04:40 < MikeSpears> I haven't had an internet outage in years
04:40 < xamithan> With subtitles ?
04:41 < MikeSpears> idk
04:41 < xamithan> I use it for american stuff
04:41 < xamithan> But all my foreign media,  bleh
04:41 < MikeSpears> I know it has UK shit
04:41 < Hunterkll> MikeSpears, i've had a 7 day power outage before int his valley
04:41 < MikeSpears> dafuq
04:41 < genr8___> https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/
04:41 < xamithan> I want south korean shows
04:41 < Hunterkll> MikeSpears, farming valley, low priority
04:41 < MikeSpears> my power was out for like 4 hrs once
04:41 < Hunterkll> we have a 3 or 5KW generator anyway
04:41 < MikeSpears> after a hurricane
04:41 < xamithan> I got a plex with like 90 terabytes on it
04:41 < Hunterkll> one of those two handle big honda ones
04:41 < MikeSpears> last year actually
04:42 < Hunterkll> BUT
04:42 < MikeSpears> that's the last big outage I remember having
04:42 < Hunterkll> EVEN WITH A 7 DAY POWER OUTAGE
04:42 < Hunterkll> MY UPTIME
04:42 < Hunterkll> WILL
04:42 < Hunterkll> NOT
04:42 < Hunterkll> STOP
04:42 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/20aiPOQ.png
04:42 < MikeSpears> reboot that thing
04:42 < Hunterkll> MikeSpears, why? it's on the latest firmware
04:42 < MikeSpears> and I'm sure it needs a firmware update
04:42 < MikeSpears> oh
04:42 < Hunterkll> :D
04:42 < xamithan> 20 teras is just all I want to actually keep
04:42 < MikeSpears> still
04:42 < MikeSpears> reboot it
04:42 <+giant_it_burrit> why the fan fic .nbet
04:42 < Hunterkll> we're approaching 4 years uptime dude
04:42 < Hunterkll> MikeSpears, why?
04:42 < Hunterkll> there's zero performance degredation
04:42 < MikeSpears> because
04:42 < Hunterkll> and it's handling all my vlans just fine
04:43 < Hunterkll> it's the switch that ties the entire house together
04:43 < Hunterkll> :o
04:43 < MikeSpears> actually, unplug it, replace it with a real switch
04:43  * aName pisses on your ru... switch
04:43 < MikeSpears> anything not trendnet
04:43 < MikeSpears> :D
04:43 < Hunterkll> MikeSpears, fuck no
04:43 < Hunterkll> that's what makes it so impressive
04:43 < xe0n> because it compensates for his small penis.
04:43 < MikeSpears> actually I like trendnet
04:43 < MikeSpears> and tp-link
04:44 < MikeSpears> I just like being an asshole
04:44 < xamithan> Yeah you like to shit on peoples
04:44 < Hunterkll> MikeSpears, here's the UPS powering that bad boy - https://i.imgur.com/SVw0g6z.jpg
04:44 < Hunterkll> MikeSpears, those are nuclear power plant surplus batteries :)
04:44 < MikeSpears> cool
04:44 < Hunterkll> 6V 50A cells
04:44 < Hunterkll> hacked onto a desk side belkin UPS
04:44 < Hunterkll> lol
04:44 < dragonfleas> ugh
04:44 < dragonfleas> server migrations at 10 pm
04:44 < Hunterkll> 12V 100A total capacity
04:44 < xamithan> What is a good staffing company btw?
04:44 < Hunterkll> running a single shitty switch
04:44 < Hunterkll> lol
04:44 < Hunterkll> xamithan, robert half
04:44 < dragonfleas> what are you doing on Hunterkll
04:45 < Hunterkll> definitely
04:45 < xamithan> I saw good,  not the worst
04:45 < xamithan> *said
04:45 < genr8___> i wanna get the TL-SG108 MANAGED switch for $38 https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Ethernet-Sheilded-Replacement-TL-SG108E/dp/B00K4DS5KU?th=1
04:45 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, obviously running a trendnet with almost 4 years uptime
04:45 < dragonfleas> lol
04:45 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, https://i.imgur.com/20aiPOQ.png
04:45 < Hunterkll> 3.89 years so far
04:45 < dragonfleas> i'm demoting my last DC for this site, gonna have to rely on our offsite DC to take on the full site for a bit
04:45 < Hunterkll> it's survived a 7 day power outage
04:45 < xe0n> my fridge has a higher uptime.
04:45 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, how the fuck
04:45 < dragonfleas> room sized UPS?
04:45 < Hunterkll> no
04:45 <+giant_it_burrit> Hunterkll: you are not discussing the yugioh fan fics weeb
04:46 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, https://i.imgur.com/SVw0g6z.jpg
04:46 < Hunterkll> 12V 100A battery bank
04:46 < dragonfleas> LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
04:46 < Hunterkll> hacked into a belkin desk side UPS
04:46 < genr8___> I got one of these for $20 and i'm using it on my PFsense router and its great https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842301444
04:46 < dragonfleas> the fucking redneck rigged
04:46 < Hunterkll> running just a switch
04:46 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, nuclear power plant surplus batteries too
04:46 < dragonfleas> ban genr8___ for pfsense
04:46 < jay-ros> Hunterkll that's metal as fuck
04:47 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, four 6V 50A batteries. by federal law nuke plants have to replace batteries every 18 months, and SLAs have 5-10 year lifespans nominally
04:47 < Hunterkll> so they sell 'em off to the employees
04:47 < Hunterkll> and my dad knows a guy
04:47 < Hunterkll> lol
04:47 < dragonfleas> lol running on no DHCP right now
04:47 < dragonfleas> everything gonna break
04:47 < xamithan> Its cool.  You got a long lease right?
04:47 < dragonfleas> yep 7 day lease
04:47 < Hunterkll> this is the part where the poewr goes out
04:47 < dragonfleas> i'm good
04:47 < Hunterkll> :D
04:47 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, there are huge storms coming and i'm in oklahoma
04:47 < dragonfleas> don't fucking say that
04:48 < Hunterkll> :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
04:48 < dragonfleas> our UPS' can only keep our rack running for 2 hours
04:48 < dragonfleas> don't you dare
04:48 < xamithan> But you got a generator
04:48 < dragonfleas> if we have a power outage during this domain migration i'm fucking done, turning in my badge and wishing my boss good luck
04:48 < xamithan> So that is like three days
04:48 < dragonfleas> xamithan, no generator
04:48 < xamithan> Ouch then
04:48 < dragonfleas> we're smb
04:48 < Hunterkll> lol
04:48 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, so?
04:48 < xamithan> I'm smb I got a gen
04:48 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, do you know how much generators cost?
04:48 < dragonfleas> we're NONPROFIT smb
04:48 < dragonfleas> i should have stated that
04:48 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, ya we got one https://i.imgur.com/2t5BZF2.jpg
04:49 < Hunterkll> see that
04:49 < Hunterkll> 5KW
04:49 < Hunterkll> got it at home depot
04:49 < xamithan> Makes sense then
04:49 < genr8_> i see cows
04:49 < dragonfleas> is that...snow?
04:49 < Hunterkll> genr8_, horses
04:49 < dragonfleas> do you live in alaska?
04:49 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, old picture
04:50 < Hunterkll> ya'll just gotta step up your game man
04:50 < jay-ros>  I like that you've got three hourses, but you should have one on the other side of the house, for immediate onsite horse backup (in case one abends) and one offsite horse backup
04:50 < Hunterkll> how come i'm better outfit at home then you are at work
04:50 < Hunterkll> my shit so fuckin tight
04:50 < Hunterkll> so fuckin fast
04:50 < xamithan> Because all your home shit is insane
04:50 < Hunterkll> i had to put fuckin fins and spoilers on my PC to keep it on the desk
04:50 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/isMMwoA.png
04:50 < jay-ros> It's doubtful that two of the horses will go down at the same time, but better to have one in a difference location in case of an across-the-board horse failure
04:50 < Hunterkll> (lol MIMO wave 2 AC and 802.11ad antennas... and a spoiler)
04:51 < xamithan> Btw Hunterkll since you an expert.  If I wanted to get a decent wifi router for a relative I don't have to mess with.  Which would I pick?
04:51 < Hunterkll> uhh
04:51 < Hunterkll> asus
04:51 < xamithan> Nothing above $150 preferably
04:51 < Hunterkll> asus
04:52 < Hunterkll> https://www.asus.com/us/Networking/RTAC68U/
04:52 < Hunterkll> like $140
04:52 < Hunterkll> does everything
04:52 < Hunterkll> set it and forget it
04:52 < Hunterkll> ours lasted like 2 years before a lightning strike
04:52 < xamithan> 154.95 on amazon =/
04:52 < Hunterkll> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320174&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Network+-+Wireless+Routers-_-N82E16833320174&gclid=Cj0KCQjw9LPYBRDSARIsAHL7J5kQpK5Q_cE3vgWnFtrSC7erWrz2LAVkX4JWT30UnacDVNZOveqNlYsaAgTAEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
04:52 < Hunterkll> SO GET IT ON AMAZON
04:52 < Hunterkll> er
04:52 < Hunterkll> MEWEGG
04:52 < Hunterkll> ... newegg
04:52 < Hunterkll> ... mewegg?
04:52 < xamithan> mew!
04:52 < xe0n> i don mind my asus wifi card in the desktop, seems to work ok
04:52 < Hunterkll> MEWEGG!
04:52 < jay-ros> mewegg
04:53 < xamithan> That looks like a rebranded netgear
04:53 < Hunterkll> it's definitely not
04:53 < Hunterkll> most definitely not
04:53 < jay-ros> It looks like a garbage disposal unit
04:53 < Hunterkll> xe0n, i assume my wigig and ac nics are asus or something since, you know, they're built into my motherboard
04:53 < Hunterkll> i assume they're quality too, since it's a $550-600 motherboard
04:53 < MikeSpears> https://www.ebay.com/itm/APC-Back-UPS-XS-1500-Battery-Backup-Uninterruptible-Power-Supply-BX1500LCD/253645391119?epid=1202033279&hash=item3b0e71850f:g:q80AAOSwGNxbBxkN good deal?
04:53 < xe0n> Hunterkll: ok
04:54 < Hunterkll> MikeSpears, uh, if you're going $80, just nut up to $100 and buy a new one at $local_not_best_buy_shop
04:54 < Hunterkll> god
04:54 < MikeSpears> eh fair enough
04:54 < Hunterkll> then you get the warranty and lightning strike guarantee and shit
04:55 < MikeSpears> don't even really care about warranty
04:55 < Hunterkll> you will if a battery goes tits up in the first year or something
04:55 < Hunterkll> but also you're buying new batteries
04:55 < MikeSpears> just want something I can put my server at home on
04:55 < Hunterkll> which means you can probably expect at least 5 years of life out of the unit
04:55 < MikeSpears> and I can get batts cheap
04:55 < Hunterkll> my UPSes are expensive though
04:55 < xe0n> https://www.asus.com/au/Networking/PCE-AC88/
04:55 < Hunterkll> i get 3000VA units ... 2U rackmount
04:55 < Hunterkll> :/
04:55 < Hunterkll> gotta keep my IBM PS/2 online
04:55 < xe0n> does it run OS/2?
04:56 < xamithan> Wait,  so what is the difference between that unit and this? : https://www.amazon.com/T-Mobile-Wireless-AC1900-Dual-Band-AiProtection-Complete/dp/B01MYTAURW/
04:56 < xamithan> Other than I have to flash the asus firmware
04:56 < Hunterkll> xe0n, no, DOS 5 with Wildcat! 4 BBS software
04:56 < Hunterkll> dial-in only
04:56 < MikeSpears> https://www.ebay.com/itm/APC-Back-UPS-RS-1500VA-BR1500-New-Batteries-Free-Shipping/352360218847?epid=129636912&hash=item520a4e40df:g:bLQAAOSwxGpai0Dt hmm
04:57 < xe0n> haha i remember wildcat
04:57 < xe0n> i think i messed with it forever ago, too long ago now
04:57 < Hunterkll> xamithan, warranty, support, 3rd party seller on amazon, etc
04:57 < xamithan> Screw all that if its half price
04:57 < Hunterkll> xamithan, sorry, i'm not buying my router from "Homegoods Shop" or "Party Bargins Inc"
04:58 < sideup66> yaaaaas
04:58 < sideup66> i got the archer season 9
04:58 < xamithan> Cool.  I'll get the "bomb brands" one
04:58 < xamithan> 60.99
04:58 < Hunterkll> https://www.bayareatechpros.com/ac1900-to-ac68u/
05:00 < Hunterkll> xamithan, there's some partition shenanigans you have to modify to be able to do more updates and shit
05:00 < Hunterkll> idk
05:00 < Hunterkll> i wouldn't do it for a set it and forget it
05:00 < Hunterkll> i'd do it for myself, sure
05:00 < Hunterkll> but not for a set it and forget it
05:00 < Hunterkll> though my home network is all cisco and aruba APs right now
05:00 < Hunterkll> with a juniper SRX as the core router
05:00 < Hunterkll> lol
05:00 < Hunterkll> and ASAs everywhre
05:00 < xamithan> Not like they'd do any updates anyway
05:00 < Hunterkll> :P
05:00 < Hunterkll> they actually do ...
05:00 < Hunterkll> oh, you mean the people you're installing ti for
05:00 < xamithan> Yeah
05:01 < xamithan> They are the people that'll buy the cheapest thing at wal-mart and throw it away when it breaks
05:01 < Hunterkll> *shrug*
05:01 < vader-> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/PdtXgAPw/20180529_224950.jpg
05:01 < vader-> Yum
05:02 < MikeSpears> https://www.t-mobile.com/accessory/t-mobile-wi-fi-cellspot-router $69 with code ROUTER
05:02 < Hunterkll> xamithan, get 'em a linksys with firmware auto-update
05:03 < Hunterkll> https://www.linksys.com/us/c/wireless-routers/
05:03 < Hunterkll> pick one
05:03 < Hunterkll> any one
05:03 < Hunterkll> lol even their cheapest router has usb3 and esata now
05:03 < Hunterkll> haha
05:03 < xamithan> Maybe,  I'll research a bit more.  It isn't urgent,  they got an old tp-link archer c7.
05:04 < Hunterkll> xamithan, linksys has firwmare auto update, so for not becoming botnet members, that's a good bet
05:04 < Hunterkll> never belkin, never tplink
05:04 < MikeSpears> tp-link has actually gotten good
05:04 < xamithan> tp-link firmware sucks balls
05:04 < Hunterkll> hahahaha maybe
05:04 <@cryptic1> tp-link aps are fine for home
05:04 < Hunterkll> you think that
05:04 < Hunterkll> but you'd be wrong
05:04 < MikeSpears> xamithan: why not just use their ISPs provided shit
05:04 < Hunterkll> cryptic1, sure if you don't mind replacing every year
05:04 < Hunterkll> lol
05:04 < MikeSpears> honestly, for most people that works
05:04 < xamithan> Because that cost 5/month
05:04 < Hunterkll> ^
05:04 < MikeSpears> ah
05:04 < Hunterkll> fuck that noise
05:04 < xamithan> for like a 40 dollar wifi
05:04 <@cryptic1> Hunterkll, i have had no issues with mine for years
05:05 < Hunterkll> cryptic1, i've measured signal degredation for a while
05:05 < Hunterkll> on one i'm testing
05:05 < genr8_> ew dont use the ISP one, ever
05:05 < Hunterkll> lol
05:05 < xamithan> You should know this if you work for spectrum,  lol
05:05 < Hunterkll> xamithan, oh, buffalo is pretty good
05:05 < Hunterkll> they make DD-WRT stock equipped units
05:05 < MikeSpears> I do, but it works fairly well
05:05 < MikeSpears> lol
05:05 < MikeSpears> the Arris TG1682 has fairly decent wifi
05:06 < MikeSpears> at the same time, I don't use it
05:06 < xamithan> They had that at first,  but was given a crappy netgear N router that didn't even do 100meg
05:06 <@cryptic1> I use pfsense for router
05:06 <@cryptic1> those all in one routers are garbage from any company
05:06 < Hunterkll> heh
05:06 < MikeSpears> xamithan: thats not something we would provide
05:06 < Hunterkll> I have cisco and aruba APs
05:06 < MikeSpears> wtf
05:06 < xamithan> Well you did
05:06 < Hunterkll> Netgear , trendnet, and SMC switches
05:06 < Hunterkll> and my core router is a Juniper SRX 220H
05:06 < MikeSpears> do they have home security?
05:06 < Hunterkll> with ASAs on different segments for firewalling the SRX doesn't do
05:06 < xamithan> Nope
05:06 < MikeSpears> if so, that netgear is ONLY for home security
05:06 < MikeSpears> weird
05:06 <@cryptic1> I use hp procurve for switching
05:06 < xamithan> Just triple play bundle
05:07 < vader-> I have a UBNT USG it works really well
05:07 < MikeSpears> idk why you got it
05:07 < vader-> I think it was less than $100
05:07 < xamithan> Because techs in rural areas have shit equipment
05:07 < xamithan> Thats why
05:07 < MikeSpears> nope, we have the same gear in every place
05:07 < vader-> I like Mikrotik as well
05:07 < xamithan> It is rare we get a regular charter|spectrum tech,  it is always a contractor
05:07 < MikeSpears> arris for modems, and sagemcom for modems
05:07 < Hunterkll> cryptic1, my SMCs are awsome, 48 port gigabit with 2x10gig links
05:07 < MikeSpears> routers*
05:08 < MikeSpears> we're moving away from the AIO solution
05:08 < Hunterkll> cryptic1, total crisco routers though, the command line is a total IOS ripoff with just slight command variations
05:08 < Hunterkll> lol
05:08 < MikeSpears> to a seperate modem and seperate router
05:08 <@cryptic1> Hunterkll, yeap
05:08 < MikeSpears> https://www.timewarnercable.com/content/dam/residential/pdfs/support/internet/ModemUserGuides/SagemcomF5260UserGuide.pdf
05:08 < xe0n> creamy cabonara
05:09 < Hunterkll> well
05:09 < Hunterkll> crisco switches
05:09 < Hunterkll> whatever
05:09 < MikeSpears> thats what we're deploying now for the most part
05:09 < MikeSpears> still deploying TG1682 AIOs, but trying to do TM1602 + sagemcom
05:09 < xamithan> The local offices don't even have cablecards unless I go to the main one an hour away
05:10 < MikeSpears> from what I hear, there's people that refuse the two device solution
05:10 < MikeSpears> and they give those people 1682s
05:10 <@cryptic1> mikespears perfers kirkland switches
05:10 < MikeSpears> no
05:10 < Hunterkll> MikeSpears, two device solution? what the fuck is this, israel?
05:10 < MikeSpears> do they even make network switches?
05:10 < Hunterkll> jesus
05:10 < Hunterkll> its a router
05:10 < Hunterkll> ek off
05:10 < MikeSpears> LMFAO
05:10 < Hunterkll> fek off
05:11 < MikeSpears> thats the "internal name"
05:14 < misspwn_> suh
05:14 < MikeSpears> Ohai
05:14 < MikeSpears> Lol
05:22 < m4221> NinjaStyle: hey
05:23 <+NinjaStyle> Yo
05:23 < misspwn_> never did get that starbucks coffee this morning, the line was long probably in anticipation of the shutdown
05:23 < m4221> Hey misspwn_
05:23 < misspwn_> hey
05:24 <+NinjaStyle> I wanted coffee this morning too but didn't get wny
05:24 <+NinjaStyle> Any*
05:24 < MikeSpears> What the fuck... you now have to create security questions when making a local acct on a fresh windows install
05:24 < xe0n> got a frappacino instead
05:24 < xe0n> MikeSpears: if you're installing windows manually, you're doing it wrong...
05:25 < misspwn_> work has coffee and it's okay coffee, but i'm trying to burn through this SB gift card
05:25 < MikeSpears> On my desktop.. I dont reinstall it enough for personal usage to justify creating an image
05:25 < xe0n> buy everyone frappacinos
05:25 < xe0n> buy me one
05:25 < xe0n> choc chip
05:25 < rpifan> mocha
05:25 < xe0n> no cream on op
05:25 < xe0n> top
05:25 < rpifan> lol
05:25 < rpifan> no crean on cryptic1
05:26 < misspwn_> xe0n, bruh totally could
05:26 < misspwn_> be like pickup at window number two for xe0n_frap
05:27 < rpifan> hi misspwn_
05:27 < misspwn_> hi rpifan
05:27 < misspwn_> i learned a lesson today on how not to office politics
05:27 < rpifan> oh?
05:28 < dragonfleas> wow
05:28 < dragonfleas> this domain controller upgrade went really well
05:28 < misspwn_> yeah, if the accounting person emails you asking why your hours do not match the billable hours for a particular day of the week, don't respond with "well i had nothing to do"
05:29 < misspwn_> after which overtime was approved last week
05:29 < misspwn_> it was more eloquently put, but that's how it read to her which caused an email blast
05:29 < MikeSpears> Lol
05:30 < m4221> Fuzzing vulns are phun!
05:30 < rpifan> lol
05:30 < rpifan> fucken office
05:30 < rpifan> always bill
05:30 < rpifan> write documentation
05:31 < MikeSpears> I need to set it up so that if I join a box to my personal ad that it auto installs office
05:31 < misspwn_> oh yeah i totally had documentation of everything, she just glazed over and saw that on friday it only showed 6.7something hours when i had clocked in longer than that. up until thursday we were all working through lunch to put out fires
05:32 < m4221> misspwn_: you were not working you honest services fraudster
05:32 < m4221> ;)
05:32 < misspwn_> haha
05:32  * m4221 canes misspwn_ for honest services fraud, a federal crime
05:32 < m4221> That's a federal cane
05:33 < misspwn_> well honestly friday i really was struggling to keep busy because i was caught up for once and nothing was burning. started even asking if there were any backups i could do and i've never done the backups
05:33 < misspwn_> anything but to sit with a thumb in my ass cause that makes the day crawl more
05:33 < rpifan> start writing scripts
05:33 < rpifan> to automate work
05:33 < rpifan> thats how i keep myself busy at work
05:33 < rpifan> scripts and confluence
05:34 < misspwn_> yeah i don't think that's something i can just do without giving a heads up
05:34 < rpifan> yes u can
05:34 < rpifan> misspwn_, i think u r super smart
05:34 < rpifan> but sometimes u lack confidence
05:34 < rpifan> i mean i was hired as the lowes stupid levle tech
05:34 < misspwn_> i've been learning powershell on my lunches
05:34 < rpifan> and in the last month
05:34 < rpifan> iv ebene such a pain in he ass
05:34 < dragonfleas_> GUYS
05:34 < dragonfleas_> GUYSSSS
05:34 < rpifan> i have admin access to things i shouldnt
05:34 < dragonfleas_> We're now operating at a 2012 r2 functional level <3
05:34 < rpifan> like they made a bitbucket for tech support and im admin lol
05:34 < misspwn_> it's just if you tell em you have nothing to do, eventually you'll get put on someting
05:34 < misspwn_> dragonfleas_, that's badass yo
05:34 < dragonfleas_> from 2003 r2 to 2012 r2
05:35 < dragonfleas_> i'm so happy
05:35 < rpifan> one of the devs today was like cant u just edit the database, im like i odnt have permssions and he's like r u sure
05:35 < misspwn_> any snags along the way?
05:35 < rpifan> im like yes i got hired as the low stupid level lol
05:35 < rpifan> though i really recommned python
05:35 < rpifan> if i can make scripts in python nayone can
05:35 < misspwn_> rpifan, i have access to most things with the exception of a few things in our watchguards
05:35 < dragonfleas_> misspwn_, no, got it there in 1 hour
05:35 < dragonfleas_> surprised as fuck
05:36 < misspwn_> that's pretty fantastic man
05:36 < rpifan> see there u go
05:36 < dragonfleas_> i wrote an entire plan with a plan b and plan c
05:36 < dragonfleas_> documented fucking EVERYTHING in notepad lol
05:36 < dragonfleas_> even backed up the text file to a usb drive and my phone
05:36 < dragonfleas_> i'm super pumped
05:36 < misspwn_> also it's not because a lack of confidence i'm pretty sure if i told him i wanted to automate a script for something he'd be fine with it as long as nothing needed to be worked on
05:37 < dragonfleas_> now everyone won't make fun of me for being on 2003 r2 functional level anymore
05:37 < misspwn_> those days are rare
05:37 < jay-ros> dragonfleas - in a pinch, cherrytree is great for notes
05:37 < jay-ros> it's portable
05:37 < misspwn_> fucking notpad drove me up a wall today
05:38 < dragonfleas_> jay-ros, never heard of it, is it like onenote?
05:38 < misspwn_> there is something going on with certain text files and how it doesn't word wrap the lines correctly
05:38 < misspwn_> drivin me bonkers
05:38 < misspwn_> even installed notepad++
05:38 < misspwn_> opens correctly in wordpad
05:38 < xe0n> yeah i've had that before with a few xml files
05:38 < xe0n> but meh
05:38 < xe0n> never thought too much of it
05:40 < misspwn_> it's not that big of a deal if you're only opening the file to read it. some programs when you try to import, it'll throw a line error becaues it's not matching up correctly
05:40 < Jekotia> misspwn_: Notepad++
05:40 < misspwn_> shit is too complex for my brain
05:40 < Jekotia> Oh nvm, missed the part where you said you installed it xD
05:40 < genr8_> cause notepad hasnt been updated like ever
05:40 < xe0n> edit.com
05:40 < genr8_> actually i think i heard they just added support for line endings in it in preview?
05:41 < Jekotia> I have a single use case for notepad: I fix someones PC and they aren't there. Leave them a note so they know it's done.
05:41 < genr8_> or maybe that was a dream....
05:42 < genr8_> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2018/05/08/extended-eol-in-notepad/
05:42 < misspwn_> what's stupid is if you change the default settings to have it open in wordpad it'll still give that error in importing for the data not showing up correctly.
05:42 < misspwn_> Jekotia, i do that sometimes and then sometimes i forget i'm still connected
05:42 < genr8_> wordpad is fail also
05:42 < genr8_> read that link
05:43 < Jekotia> misspwn_: "still connected" you mean RDP?
05:43 < misspwn_> yeah sorry
05:43 < Jekotia> I wish that was a viable option for me... It's a mess
05:44 < misspwn_> genr8_, was reading about CRLF today and had no idea what it meant
05:44 < misspwn_> Jekotia, what do you use?
05:44 < Jekotia> misspwn_: I go to the PC. Because our network is disorganised shitshow and good luck walking anything thrrough finding out their IP address and username
05:45 < Jekotia> *walking anyone through
05:45 < xe0n> yeah i've told our helpdesk team to stop asking people for their ip address
05:45 < misspwn_> uh like you actually walk over to their desk?
05:45 < xe0n> listening to them walk through a cmd and ipconfig
05:45 < Jekotia> misspwn_: Yes.
05:45 < xe0n> no, we can get the info from dhcp\cw\a few other places lol
05:45 < Jekotia> A very large portion of our staff are computer illiterate old folks
05:45 < genr8_>  A CR immediately followed by a LF (CRLF, \r\n , or 0x0D0A ) moves the cursor down to the next line and then to the beginning of the line.
05:46 < misspwn_> how big is the location employee wise? that seems archaic as fuck
05:46 < Jekotia> misspwn_: ~350 people, but it's a factory, warehouse, sales, and R&D lab, so not everyone has a PC
05:46 < genr8_> Windows programs expect their newline format in CRLF ( \r\n ). *nix expect just LF data ( \n ).
05:46 < misspwn_> genr8_, yes but, you would have to do that for each file?
05:46 < genr8_> yes
05:46 < misspwn_> omg
05:46 < misspwn_> that will not be a solution
05:47 < genr8_> nope. maybe they'll fix it so its a dropdown or something
05:47 < genr8_> in notepad++ you just double click the status bar and it toggles it
05:47 < xe0n> toggle
05:47 < misspwn_> "hey carrolbarbara, you're gona have to edit this up down up down left right x yz to each file, then save it, then import"
05:47 < misspwn_> that'll work
05:48 < genr8_> well no the file is fine, just opening in notepad ruins it
05:48 < misspwn_> so even if it's not saved it ruins it?
05:49 < genr8_> no
05:50 < genr8_> you could run some scripts on the files first when you transfer them over
05:53 < jay-ros> I just replaced the shitty radio on the hold music in one of our offices with chill hop
05:53 < jay-ros> Feeling pretty groovy right about now
05:53 < genr8_> NotePad++ is probably one of the first things i install on a new system
05:54 < Jekotia> Dropbox is mine, so I can deploy my sync'd work environment
05:56 < genr8_> have anyone of you tried using Windows 10 S ? store only
05:56 < JollyRgrs> now i like vs code
05:56 < JollyRgrs> but still use np++ for things
05:57 < genr8_> The new S Mode will lock down any copy of Windows 10 so it can only run apps from the Microsoft Store, and will work the same way as the dedicated Windows 10 S operating system was built to do.
05:58 < MadCamel> I tried vs code... it ran like ass until I enabled my discrete GPU. I don't see why an IDE would need to use opengl that heavily so I dumped it.
05:59 < genr8_> its one of a few apps that uses the GPU, i havent tracked down why but it does
06:00 < genr8_> https://puu.sh/AvB6k/fa9c86ee9c.png
06:00 < hug> wat
06:00 < genr8_> probably just due to microsofts programming UI
06:00 < hug> Holy what
06:00 < hug> no stop
06:00 < hug> stop saying words
06:01 < hug> VS Code is Electron
06:01 < hug> Electron is Chromium.
06:01 < genr8_> so it uses the gpu
06:01 < hug> Chromium is a browser, browsers use Canval and WebGL.
06:01 < hug> Canvas*
06:01 < genr8_> k that makes sense
06:02 < hug> Even CSS transforms and stuff use GPU now.
06:02 < genr8_> nothings ever efficient anymore
06:02 < genr8_> you always pay for what you dont use
06:03 < MikeSpears> vs code runs great on my laptop with intergrated graphics
06:03 < MikeSpears> thinkpad t440s
06:03 < JollyRgrs> MadCamel: i dunno, i never had issues with it on a T450
06:04 < hug> Sure. It's still hardware accelerated even on integrated graphics.
06:04 < JollyRgrs> but it works just fine on integrated
06:04 < JollyRgrs> no need to use discrete for it
06:04 < JollyRgrs> that's the argument
06:05 < JollyRgrs> not whether it needs gpu or not
06:05 < MadCamel> chromium runs fine on my integrated intel gpu. vs code and other heavy-duty electron apps just fall over. It could be because I'm using the slightly deprecated xorg-video-intel driver I guess.. but that's all I can get to work in conjunction with bumblebee and the commercial nvidia drivers that I need for a few cuda apps
06:05 < hug> Yeah Bumblebee is going to give you a bad time.
06:05 < JollyRgrs> heh, bumblebee, i never got that working well on my asus laptop
06:06 < MikeSpears> MadCamel: run windows
06:06 < JollyRgrs> i ended up just saying screw it and ran nvidia the whole time
06:06 < MikeSpears> windows or mac on workstations for me
06:06 < JollyRgrs> i do windows or linux
06:06 < JollyRgrs> no mac pls
06:06 < MikeSpears> lol
06:07 < genr8_> mac is like the confused middle ground
06:07 < MadCamel> I've been using linux pretty much exclusively since 1995. win95 came out and I didn't have enough ram. I heard about this linux thing and spent what felt to be weeks downloading slackware and making floppies.. Got hooked.
06:08 < JollyRgrs> MadCamel: i went to linux for desktop back when vista came out
06:08 < JollyRgrs> i needed a new laptop (it broke) on the day vista launched
06:08 < JollyRgrs> srsly...
06:08 < MikeSpears> I've had more random stupid issues on linux desktops than I've ever had on windows
06:08 < JollyRgrs> vista was poop, and my new laptop wasn't a bad laptop
06:09 < JollyRgrs> so i lernt linux
06:09 < JollyRgrs> but there are things i need windows for
06:09 < JollyRgrs> like... gaming
06:09 < MikeSpears> vista ran great for me, ran it on a p4 with 6gb ram
06:09 < MikeSpears> lol
06:09 < JollyRgrs> and... when my anydvd lifetime subscription was valid
06:09 < MikeSpears> then a Q6600 with 8gb
06:09 < JollyRgrs> MikeSpears: i only had 4gb... which at the time, SHOULD have been plenty
06:09 < JollyRgrs> but noooooo
06:09 < MikeSpears> it ran on my other box with 4gb fine too
06:09 < JollyRgrs> also, i liked linux
06:10 < MikeSpears> fair enough
06:10 < MikeSpears> I like it on servers
06:10 < JollyRgrs> MikeSpears: prob had a discrite video?
06:10 < MikeSpears> yea
06:10 < MadCamel> hah JollyRgrs almost the same story then!
06:10 < JollyRgrs> i think that was the big diff
06:10 < MikeSpears> I've pretty much always ran discrete
06:10 < MikeSpears> except laptops
06:10 < genr8_> i remember microsoft trying to say you could run Vista on 512mb of ram
06:10 < JollyRgrs> MadCamel: yeah. i went dual boot for a short bit, but then decided to quit windows cold turkey
06:11 < JollyRgrs> genr8_: i remember working for geek squad when the computer ppl would sell 512MB emachines with vista and ask us to make it work fast
06:11 < genr8_> but that was a joke. i had to fix someones brand new PC cause it came bottlenecked by not enough ram
06:11 < genr8_> yeah that was that
06:11 < JollyRgrs> 1 DIMM slot and 1 PCI slot (taken up by 56k modem or NIC)
06:11 < JollyRgrs> and PSU was like a 130watt
06:11 < JollyRgrs> GL
06:12 < genr8_> i bet that is what eventually killed emachines
06:12 < JollyRgrs> not 1 DIMM open... 1 DIMM total
06:12 < JollyRgrs> genr8_: gateway bought emachines, acer bought gateway
06:12 < JollyRgrs> i think that's the order
06:12 < JollyRgrs> somehow acer ownt gateway and emachines
06:12 < MadCamel> oof. yeah I remember those crapboxes. built to a price point and damn everything else.
06:12 < JollyRgrs> but they sold like hot cakes
06:12 < xe0n> doot doot dit dit dooot cccssshhhhhhhh
06:13 < MadCamel> then they'd cover the front in stickers with Big Numbers
06:13 < genr8_> i still have 2 emachines shells
06:13 < xe0n> that's me dialing up on my 1200 baud
06:13 < xe0n> wiat, it was pulse
06:13 < MadCamel> well yeah. not many people could afford a good computer so they just picked up whatever they could afford. slimy sales tactics fed into it a bit also
06:13 < JollyRgrs> a bit?
06:14 < JollyRgrs> i would get mad when the sales ppl would try to coerrce someone to buy an emachine for cheaper so they'd buy more accy's (which made the store more money)
06:14 < MadCamel> ok, a lot.
06:14 < zerocool> with a firewall is it better to block input or forward?
06:14 < JollyRgrs> "no, they can get this HP that is nicer and jsut not get the mouse pad and 3 games for $10 bundle"
06:15 < JollyRgrs> zerocool: dowhat?
06:15 < genr8_> instant gratification
06:15 < JollyRgrs> input?
06:15 < genr8_> even so instant that its obsolete before its left the store
06:15 < JollyRgrs> block inbound?
06:15 < zerocool> JollyRgrs: yeah inbound
06:15 < xe0n> mouse pad bro
06:15 < MadCamel> zerocool: input is for the local machine. forward is for machines behind the local machine if it's being used as a router.
06:15 < JollyRgrs> zerocool: why do you ask?
06:16 < MadCamel> educated guess about what you're messing with, I could be entirely wrong
06:16 < zerocool> MadCamel: right, so if you're blocking say traffic coming from outside via any port but 22, should you put the block on the input or the tunnel that would forward on to the other network
06:17 < zerocool> or connecting to any port but 22, i should say
06:17 < zerocool> by tunnel i mean forward
06:17 < genr8_> you can get away with 2 rules. Block all, and forward to 22
06:18 < zerocool> genr8_: yeah, okay... that's kinda what i have but i have like 90 rules
06:22 < zerocool> because of all the ports and protocols that i actually need
06:23 < genr8_> you're gonna want some kind of iptables management thing
06:26 < GrandpaRick> Hey guys
06:27 <+NinjaStyle> Hi
06:27 < GrandpaRick> What kind of sequential speeds should be expected at 99.9% for a HDD?
06:27 < jay-ros> At least five, from my experience
06:28 <+NinjaStyle> More than one and less than seven
06:28 <+NinjaStyle> Units of speed
06:28 < jay-ros> I saw fifteen on a spec sheet, but I think they were just passing number values back and forth
06:29 < GrandpaRick> Lol
06:29 < jay-ros> https://www.anandtech.com/show/7173/samsung-ssd-840-evo-review-120gb-250gb-500gb-750gb-1tb-models-tested/8
06:29 < jay-ros> SSD?Cache?Spec?Physical?NVME?
06:29 < zerocool> genr8_: i am using a flat file and iptables-restore basically
06:30 < GrandpaRick> @jay-ros HDD
06:30 < genr8_> benchmark it and find out
06:31 < zerocool> and after kinda doodling everything out i realized why i am doing the controlling from forward and not input, now that i think about it, it was a stupid question
06:31 < jay-ros> SAS?SADA?7.2?10K?5k?
06:31 < genr8_> the speed at the end of the disk is usually cut in half by 50% vs the beginning of the disk
06:31 < GrandpaRick> isn't there a general rule on HDDs?
06:31 < genr8_> yeah they're slow.
06:31 < jay-ros> Yeah, "Look at the specs online from the model number"
06:31 < GrandpaRick> @jay-ros 7.2
06:32 < genr8_> ive seen some claim over 200MB/s
06:32 < genr8_> its usually less
06:32 < jay-ros> about 180 sequential, give or take, random is a lot lower
06:32 < jay-ros> write can drop to low 100s
06:32 < genr8_> most drives should be able to keep up about 90-100 even at worst case scenario
06:32 < GrandpaRick> @jay-ros, 1 drive can pull off 180MB/s sequential, 99.9% of the time?
06:32 < jay-ros> ^ genr8 is prob closer. I'm a dreamer
06:33 < jay-ros> GrandpaRick no, 1 drive can pull off 5 most of the time
06:33 < MikeSpears> hmm. debating if I should throw in a WSUS box in my "lab" enviroment
06:33 < genr8_> no, like i said the end of the drive is 50% slower
06:33 < MikeSpears> lab that isn't a lanb
06:33 < MikeSpears> lab*
06:33 < GrandpaRick> @jay-ros lol
06:33 < jay-ros> but in perfect circumstances, it will definitely go above that
06:33 < jay-ros> by at least 70
06:33 < MikeSpears> as it also runs the network for both my house, and my parents
06:33 < genr8_> If the beginning of the drive is 180MB/s the end is about 90MB/s
06:33 < MikeSpears> there's about 6 windows machines on it
06:33 < GrandpaRick> @genr8_ so 2 drives to get 180MB/s?
06:33 < jay-ros> yeah, that sounds about right. The disk spins slower on the edges
06:34 < MikeSpears> 2 at my place, 4 at my parents
06:34 < jay-ros> 3 drives will get 210 GrandpaRick
06:34 < MikeSpears> was thinking about putting the WSUS vm in the datacenter
06:34 < genr8_> im confused now theres 2 drives?
06:34 < jay-ros> MikeSpears - space reasons, network reasons?
06:34 < jay-ros> genr8_ they're multiplying
06:34 < genr8_> what if its not linear
06:34 < MikeSpears> there's beefy network pipes at all sites
06:35  * jay-ros looks at the hundred and fifty HDDs hopping around in my garden
06:35 < MikeSpears> colocation is a gig pipe, parents is 300/300, my place is 400/20
06:35 < GrandpaRick> @genr8_ trying to figure out how many drives are required to pull off 180MB/s 99.9% of the time
06:35 < MikeSpears> got plenty of storage
06:35 < jay-ros> GrandpaRick - why?
06:35 < genr8_> 2 drives with an SSD cache should be enough
06:35 < genr8_> in case it falls behind some
06:35 < MikeSpears> just debating if its worth my time to build it
06:36 < jay-ros> Eh, WSUS is a POC to build
06:36 < jay-ros> just follow good instructions
06:36 < GrandpaRick> @genr8_ mostly cause I'm trying to figure out how Google Persistent Disk is giving 180MB/s read and write
06:36 < jay-ros> make sure you're pointing to it
06:36 < MikeSpears> I've done it before
06:36 < GrandpaRick> Not sure if it's just mirrored or if it's striped as well
06:36 < genr8_> Persistent Disk provides SSD and HDD storage which can be attached to instances runnin
06:37 < genr8_> how do we know they're not SSDs
06:37 < jay-ros> ^^^^^^
06:37 < MikeSpears> knowing most of these cloud ops, its likely raid0
06:37 < MikeSpears> or similar
06:37 < genr8_> its something advanced for sure
06:37 < MikeSpears> I know amazon is all RAID 0, unless you pay
06:37 < GrandpaRick> Yeah ik that but I'm referring to the standard persistent disk not the SSD one
06:38 < MikeSpears> its likely just striping
06:38 < genr8_> 180MB/s Write AND read would need to be way more than 2 drives on RAID
06:38 < jay-ros> At least 5, right?
06:38 < genr8_> maybe it is striped? Its not redundant?
06:39 < MikeSpears> I know my 6 disk raid 10 does about that
06:39 < GrandpaRick> It is redundant
06:39 < GrandpaRick> So it's definitely mirrored
06:39 < GrandpaRick> Or erasure coded
06:39 < genr8_> i'd guess at least 4
06:39 < jay-ros> ahhhhh, are you looking at the per-instance?
06:40 < jay-ros> 180mb/s at 1.5tb disk size?
06:40 < MadCamel> it's likely a specialized system with huge caches, fast near-line storage or something like l2arc, backed by an incomprehensibly large array of rotating platters. Hell, I bet there's enough gyroscopic action where you could pick up one of the racks and spin it on it's corner.
06:40 < GrandpaRick> @mikespears, 3 raid 0 arrays with 2x mirroring?
06:41 < jay-ros> it's probably multiple disks, running striped and mirrored
06:41 < GrandpaRick> @jay-ros yeah
06:41 < jay-ros> 500GB disks on offer or something
06:41 < genr8_> and then chopped up in software
06:41 < genr8_> and virtually assigned
06:41 < jay-ros> yeap
06:42 < jay-ros> they drop the speed on offer to random
06:42 < MadCamel> I'm betting it's something less like traditional raid and more like ceph
06:42 < jay-ros> https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/disks/performance
06:43 < jay-ros> If you're using under 1.5TB you're getting dropped speeds You're looking at something where they say "you get a dedicated raid at 1.5tb, but anything under that and we're chopping up your access to accommodate other users
06:44 <+NinjaStyle> Numbers amirite
06:44 < jay-ros> You betcha
06:45 < genr8_> wait this explains better
06:45 < genr8_> 180 Reads and 120 Writes
06:45 < GrandpaRick> So 4+2 erasure coding, 3 mirrors, fronted by a read and write cache?
06:45 < genr8_> i wish i knew what that meant but possibly
06:46 < genr8_> maybe theyre estimating the drives at 60MB/s each
06:47 < GrandpaRick> 1.5TB sounds kinda low for dedicated raid
06:47 < genr8_> nah theyre measuring each drive at 120MB/s
06:47 < GrandpaRick> They're only using 1TB HDDs?
06:47 < genr8_> those must be some nice disks
06:48 < GrandpaRick> Or is it something like 3TB drives but mirrored 1TBs in something like master-slave?
06:48 <+NinjaStyle> You have a nice disk
06:48 < genr8_> maybe that somehow affects the stripe size
06:48 < genr8_> idk
06:48 < GrandpaRick> Or master-master active failover
06:49 < GrandpaRick> Also the other weird thing is
06:49 < GrandpaRick> You can have a 64TB drive, but the most you are gonna get from 1 instance is that 180
06:50 < genr8_> at 4TB, it hits max throughput over NVME
06:51 < GrandpaRick> Why does it cap out at 1TB?
06:51 < GrandpaRick> 1TB drives can't possibly be cost effective for them
06:51 < genr8_> artificial market segmentation ?
06:53 <+NinjaStyle> 🖍️
06:53 < MadCamel> because hey it's the cloud and it should cost at least 5x as much as running your own kit, so buy more storage than you need just for the iops!
06:53  * Casteil runs his AC for a short while to drop humidity levels in his house
06:54 < GrandpaRick> Max write throughout is 180MB/s, max read is technically 7.7GB/s
06:54 < Casteil> it's not bad down here in my below-grade office, hasn't exceeded 74f in here while it's bee 90+ degrees outside the last few days
06:54 < GrandpaRick> Which means it's probably x2 RAID 0 or similar
06:55 < GrandpaRick> With 64x mirroring
06:55 < GrandpaRick> 32x mirroring*
06:55 <@Nostalg14c> o/
06:55 <+NinjaStyle> Hi
06:56 <@Nostalg14c> F'ing bored.
06:56 < MadCamel> Yeah it's been a scorcher. I setup a huge shop fan in my attic blowing out the window, wired it to a $10 wifi power switch. Wrote some software to compare inside temp(from wifi thermostat) to exterior temp(weather API) and turn it on as appropriate
06:56 <+NinjaStyle> Nice
06:56 < GrandpaRick> And that level mirroring doesn't make sense which means it's erasure coding
06:57 < GrandpaRick> Either that or HEAVY read caching
06:57 < MadCamel> It actually works pretty well. Only need the ac for an hour or two a day.. compared to last year it's gonna be a huge energy win
06:57 < togen> Nostalg14c: opposite here, so much to do but really cbfed today
06:58 < Casteil> MadCamel: haha, nice
06:58 < Casteil> I'd like to do a high cfm whole house exhaust fan
06:58 < GrandpaRick> No one would have 64TB of RAM, and you would need a lot of RAM to hit that speed 99.9% of the time
06:59 < GrandpaRick> Which means they are using erasure coding
06:59 < Casteil> place it at the peak of my stairs on my highest level and just blast out out 800+ cfm of hot air to exhaust the whole house in no time
06:59 < GrandpaRick> It would be something akin to RAID 60 but with a lot more redundancy
06:59 < Casteil> on the plus side, with the 90+ degree weather (highly unusual for MI so early in the year), I have been able to enjoy my pool the last 3 days :)
07:00 < jay-ros> .yt erasure - always
07:00 < jay-ros> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWqJTKdznaM
07:01 < genr8_> some google specialty stuff probably
07:01 < MadCamel> that's the way to do it. Though after installing my fan I've noticed it's not really the air that's hot so much as all the thermal mass in your house heating it up..
07:01 < MadCamel> and I'd kill for a pool right now
07:01 < Casteil> yeah
07:01 < jay-ros> MadCamel - a wet singlet and a fan does wonders
07:01 < jay-ros> #AustralianSummers
07:01 < Casteil> I think my house being like 1/3rd underground will help me save big on AC
07:02 <+NinjaStyle> Tri level?
07:02 < Casteil> basically, but 4 levels
07:02 <+NinjaStyle> Oh...
07:03 < MadCamel> haha. I'm just going to go jump in the lake tomorrow. It's *cold* this early in the year though. Like maybe 58 degrees max.
07:03 < Casteil> basement, below-grade slab (where I have my office and my theater center), main level (kitchen/spare bath/dining/sitting room) and upper (two bedrooms and master bath)
07:03 < Casteil> MadCamel: ha, reminds me of deep water swimming on lake Superior or Huron
07:03 < MikeSpears> well that was a brief shitfest
07:03 < Casteil> there was a place we'd always go in high school that was like 50 feet deep and you could see straight down to the bottom
07:04 < Casteil> it was always cold as shit even in summer
07:04 < MikeSpears> was trying to figure out why I couldn't pull up ADUC from my workstation, turns out pihole wasn't pushing through all the DNS shit
07:04 < MikeSpears> oh well, just fixed that
07:04 < Casteil> MadCamel: when I opened my pool a few weeks ago it was 52f when I jumped in after mowing the lawn :D
07:04 < MadCamel> yup. A real lake is one where you can't see the other side. Anything else is just a pond.
07:05 < Casteil> needless to say I didn't stay in very long... it was pretty shocking :P
07:05 < MikeSpears> set all clients to use the DC for DNS, then DC fowards to pihole
07:05 <+NinjaStyle> I guess Colorado has no lakes
07:05 < MadCamel> just flooded canyons
07:06 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah true
07:06 < Casteil> lakes you can't see the other side of are generally considered oceans :P
07:06 < Casteil> there are few lakes in the world you can't see the other side of
07:06 < MadCamel> guess growing up around the great lakes has made me a lake snob
07:07 < Casteil> just so happens that all of them in the US on around MI :P
07:07 < MadCamel> not ontario!
07:07 < Casteil> "glaciers, bitch!"
07:07 < Casteil> still around michigan :P
07:08 < Casteil> NinjaStyle: Despite the relative lack of lakes, Denver has a surprising sport boat scene
07:08 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah it's weird
07:08 < Casteil> money tho
07:09 <+NinjaStyle> I don't know how people have so much money
07:09 < MadCamel> debt
07:10 < xe0n> credit
07:10 < Casteil> frickin weather lol
07:10 < xe0n> beautiful here today after a few rainy days
07:10 < aName> NinjaStyle: Low bills, side hustles.
07:10 < Casteil> we didn't even get a solid 2 weeks of no furnace before some "damn I need AC" days came rolling in before summer
07:11 < Casteil> we got 3 inches of sleet/ice in mid april
07:11 < MadCamel> winter took forever to let go
07:11 < Casteil> still dipped below freezing a good number of times through half of may
07:11 < MadCamel> it snowed here. in may.
07:12 < Casteil> then 5 days ago it's all like "SURPRISE MOTHAFUCKA! 90+ DEGREES FOR THE NEXT 5 DAYS STRAIGHT!"
07:12 < GrandpaRick> If you had RAID 6
07:12 <+NinjaStyle> You need to make like >450k/yr to be a 1%
07:12 < GrandpaRick> Would the write speed be 4x 1 drive? Or just 1 drive?
07:12 < Casteil> I wouldn't know what to do if I made 450k a year
07:12 < Casteil> well for starters I'd pay off my house in a matter of months
07:12 < gnupluslinux> Bitches and hoes
07:12 < gnupluslinux> Duh
07:12 < MadCamel> I hope summer and autumn run on late because we've been cheated out of spring.
07:13 <+NinjaStyle> Isnt it fucked up there are like >3 million people making that much?
07:13 < Casteil> MadCamel: if things thus far are any indicator, we may be in for a brutal summer :X
07:14 < MadCamel> the few 1%ers I've known worked their ass off for it though. Like never slept, just hustle hustle hustle.
07:15 < Casteil> I think a good number of them do
07:15 < MadCamel> until they get in the decamillion range, hit that and your money starts to work for you instead of vice versa
07:15 < Casteil> I know my uncle probably makes something in that neighborhood
07:15 <+NinjaStyle> 1 in 100 people make that much, seems way too common
07:15 < MadCamel> doctors and lawyers
07:15 <+NinjaStyle> Only high end lawyers
07:15 < Casteil> he's high level management at a large national MSP/development company though
07:15 <+NinjaStyle> Like partners
07:16 < MikeSpears> shit, if I made that kind of $$$, I'd pay off my debt (4k) pay off my parents house and car, buy a normal house
07:16 < MikeSpears> and have a dope ass homelab
07:16 < MikeSpears> for the most part, shit would be normal
07:16 < MikeSpears> normal house, in a normal middle class neighborhood
07:16 < MikeSpears> showing off money makes you a target
07:16 < Casteil> 450k/yr is something like 21k/month after tax
07:16 < jay-ros> hmm... interesting
07:16 <+NinjaStyle> I'm just always shocked how many there are. I feel like why not me about it
07:17 < Casteil> pay off my house before year end
07:17 < Casteil> buy myself a BMW M3 and pay it off by my birthday early next year
07:17 < jay-ros> My NTP server is SYDFAP, my DHCP says it is SYDFAP, but everything is pointing to the DNS server in w32tm as the server
07:17 < jay-ros> WHY!
07:17 < MadCamel> sydfap?
07:17 < jay-ros> File and Print, Sydney
07:17 < jay-ros> AHAH!
07:18 < jay-ros> because some fuckhead set the DNS server with GPO, not DHCP server!
07:18 < MikeSpears> I take that back, the only high end thing I'd have would be like a bentley or something
07:18 < MikeSpears> Maybach rather
07:18 < MikeSpears> https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehicles/class/class-S/bodystyle-MAY
07:19 < Casteil> frankly though I'd squirrel away a bunch of money because I'd be paranoid the 450k/yr wouldn't keep coming
07:19 < MikeSpears> with a driver
07:19 < MikeSpears> heh
07:19 < MikeSpears> hire a buddy of mine as my driver/security
07:19 < Casteil> maybe pay down half my mortgage then build up 100k+ in a good investment portfolio :P
07:19 < MadCamel> I'm starting a new job & keeping my current consulting biz open to get my income level to about 200k/yr. I'll be working 12-hour days 6 days/week. I figure I'll just bank it all and when I finally burn out I'll have enough money and spare time to buy a house or something like that
07:20 < MikeSpears> outside of the car and driver, nothing else obvious
07:20 < Casteil> MadCamel: :D
07:20 < Casteil> I'd be *extremely* comfortable if I were making half that
07:20 <+NinjaStyle> MadCamel: good plan
07:20 <+NinjaStyle> I wanna hit 200k in the next 5-10 years
07:20 < Casteil> already somewhat comfortable though disposable income for home improvements doesn't come as quick as I'd like it to
07:21 < Casteil> I think I lack the motivation and location to make ever breaking >120k viable
07:21 <+NinjaStyle> 1 in 100
07:22 < Casteil> even if I did start crackin hard on development, senior developers around here tend to top out around 120k
07:22 < MikeSpears> all I gotta say is fuck having a boat
07:22 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah
07:22 < MikeSpears> if I was rich, my money would go to guns, electronics, and property
07:23 < Casteil> speaking of
07:23 < Casteil> now that I just ordered some Milwaukee outdoor power equipment.. my Sig P365 will finally ship
07:23 < MikeSpears> sweet
07:23 < Casteil> so I'll have spent like $750 I wasn't really planning on this month >.>
07:23 < MadCamel> boats don't have to be expensive holes in the water you throw money into. Get a small one with an outboard, the less frills (like steering wheel, electronics etc) the better. Fun as hell and pretty cheap
07:24 < MikeSpears> guns > boats
07:24 < MikeSpears> ever been to the gun range MadCamel?
07:24 <+NinjaStyle> You only need so many guns
07:24 < Casteil> guns don't depreciate quite like boats do, that's for sure
07:24 < MikeSpears> lol
07:24 <+NinjaStyle> I have 5 guns and I am mostly satisfied
07:24 < MadCamel> yeah I've been shooting since I was 8, used to duck hunt(in a boat)
07:25 < MikeSpears> to be fair, if I was rich, half the guns I owned would never be fired (collectors items)
07:25 < Casteil> I kinda want to sell my 300 winchester magnum
07:25 < MikeSpears> they'd be in glass cases
07:25 < Casteil> it's not a fancy rifle.. it's just... powerful
07:25 < Casteil> that's my kind of... shock & awe gun
07:25 < MikeSpears> old military weapons, shit like that
07:26 < Casteil> very few people shoot guns with >5000 joules of muzzle energy :P
07:26 < GrandpaRick> Is RAID6 4x or 1x write speed?
07:26 <+NinjaStyle> I want a stupid fast car and a nice enough place in a good location
07:26 < Casteil> https://www.marlinfirearms.com/lever-action/model-1895-big-bore/model-1895sbl < Still want one of these because they're pretty
07:27 < Casteil> just stuck with my less fancy GBL version though
07:27 < Casteil> same gun, different sights and finish.. https://www.marlinfirearms.com/lever-action/model-1895-big-bore/model-1895gbl
07:28 < GrandpaRick> Cause it takes 2 drives to reach 180MB/s writes, and it can reach 7.7GB/s(
07:28 < GrandpaRick> 64 drives read speed
07:28 < Casteil> NinjaStyle: being realistic, I'll probably never own a car worth more than ~60k
07:28 < MadCamel> ever do skeet shooting? It's like real-life NES duck hunt
07:28 <+NinjaStyle> Casteil: I probably shouldn't
07:28 < Casteil> MadCamel: Nah. My shotgun isn't really a sport shotgun
07:29 < Casteil> it's a mossberg 590 A1 and it if it ever runs out of ammo it doubles as a billy club
07:29 < MadCamel> haha
07:29 < Casteil> seriously, it's a frickin stout gun
07:30 < Casteil> love that Marlin 1895 GBL lever action though, it's such a small gun for the power of the 45-70
07:30 < Casteil> very ergonomic, feels good, shoots good
07:30 < Casteil> something about having a cowboy-style rifle
07:31  * MadCamel scribbles on his list
07:31 < GrandpaRick> So ~43 instances to reach 7.7GB/s
07:31 < Casteil> (most of my other guns are black/polymer)
07:31 < GrandpaRick> I doubt they have 43 mirrors but it's possible
07:31 < Casteil> MadCamel: also fun to let people shoot
07:31 < Casteil> 'oh it's a small gun it couldn't be that bad'
07:32 < Casteil> "holy SHIT"
07:32 < Casteil> that said the 300 win mag makes the 45-70 feel tame by comparison :P
07:33 <@Nostalg14c> GrandpaRick: what chu talkin about?
07:33 < Casteil> any high caliber magnum rounds in a bolt action will hurt after a dozen+ shots ._.
07:33 < MadCamel> I've been stripped of my gun rights. No recourse, weird inescapable gray area created by modern gun legislation. So my wife owns a lot of guns... :P
07:33 < MadCamel> Makes going to the range difficult though
07:37 < MadCamel> hm. cars are weird
07:39 <+NinjaStyle> Why?
07:39 < Casteil> fack I never did get my resume / linkedin fully updated
07:40 < Casteil> need to do so, so hopefully recruiters may reach out to me more
07:40 <+NinjaStyle> Do it
07:41 < Casteil> don't really *want* to leave but I can't say I'd say no to a job that offered +20k and better benefits
07:42 <+NinjaStyle> I get that
07:42 <+NinjaStyle> I almost didn't leave my last job for a 50k bump
07:49 < vader-> Casteil where you located?
07:52 < Casteil> vader-: SW MI
08:04 < vader-> any of oyu guys in the Chicago area?
08:14 < Wannabejrsysadm> SUP BOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYZZZZ
08:15 < MadCamel> llamas?
08:15 < Wannabejrsysadm> So i had this VM running at about 100% CPU for the last days
08:15 < xe0n> yippe ki yay mr falcon
08:15 < Wannabejrsysadm> decided to login today nad have a look , the moment i logged in
08:15 < Wannabejrsysadm> it goes back down to 5 % ?
08:15 < Wannabejrsysadm> WASSUP WITH THAT HOMEBOY ?
08:16 < xe0n> it knew you were coming
08:16 < Wannabejrsysadm> https://www.screencast.com/t/b7ZlqWXs
08:17 < Wannabejrsysadm> for real tho wtf
08:19 < Wannabejrsysadm> hte moment I log out it start going again
08:21 < Wannabejrsysadm> nvm it looks chill
08:29 < MikeSpears> fml im retarded
08:30 < MikeSpears> my personal ad and my workstation weren't getting along... I rebuilt AD, rebooted like 20 times, played with DNS shit, only to figure out it was my anti-virus lol
08:31 < MikeSpears> fucking 3rd party firewalls
08:38 < jay-ros> I'm having a great day, locating a million issues which were fucked earlier
08:38 < jay-ros> apparently time servers are not pingable from the NTP server I'm trying to connect to
08:39 < MikeSpears> to be fair, its behavior was totally reasonable
08:39 < MikeSpears> as AD is on a different subnet
08:39 < MikeSpears> (only reason I'm not just using the built in AV on windows 10, is because I'm trying to get a job with an anti-virus manufacturer)
08:40 < MikeSpears> so figured I'd learn the product
08:40 < MikeSpears> had a phone screen with them yesterday
09:06 <@Nostalg14c> Hunterkll: you around
10:09 < Reverend> sup bois
10:18 < Jory> anyone into cryptomining? :)
10:29 < Hatsjoe> Sup lads
10:42 < ihre> Hatsjoe: bless u
10:46 < jumi> morning
10:47 < ihre> hey jumi
10:47 < jumi> hey ihre
11:13 < Hatsjoe> ihre: thanks m8
11:17 < jumi> fucking HP-UX
11:17 < ihre> 'hewlett packard user experience' ? :D
11:18 < jumi> hewlett packard unix
11:19 < jumi> aka: hell on a cli
11:20 < jumi> btw - yesterday we found out that our "systems" team uses backup exec to backup our SAP hosts, and that they do not know how it works. And that we don't have working backups. And that we have not had them for over two years.
11:20 < ihre> yeah thats cute
11:20 < ihre> testing backups is for n00bs
11:21 < jumi> I don't know if I should cry or what
11:23 < ihre> a comp i worked for used backuppc w/ rsync over ssh, but they kept reassigning host names after rebuilding machines, in turn making all subsequent backups fail because of fucked auth_keys vs host_keys ><
11:24 < ihre> i gave up after a while, since they didnt see the point of using something like sssd with sss_ssh_authorizedkeys
11:25 < jumi> I was thinking about just saying "fuck it" scrap everything and start using backula
11:25 < jumi> because, to be completely honest, the only thing I really need are the database backup files
11:25 < ihre> oh i fucking hate bacula :D
11:26 < jumi> bacula, an rsync script, whatever
11:26 < jumi> the point is, I don't really care if the system dies
11:26 < jumi> because we're running on bare metal anyway
11:26 < ihre> i used to run a pre_dump script w/ backuppc which would dump each db to a seperate .sql file, not really 'elegant' (as in, innobackupex would be better), but it worked
11:26 < ihre> had 'daily' incrementals of each db
11:26 < jumi> if we had some kind of virtualization going on then yeah, I'd go with veeam or something
11:27 < jumi> ihre: we do daily full backups + log backups every 15 mins
11:27 < jumi> but those are local
11:27 < ihre> no SAN/NAS?
11:27 < jumi> we have a NAS
11:28 < ihre> mount over nfs, dump there?
11:28 < jumi> we store the backups there afterwards
11:28 < jumi> >nfs
11:28 < jumi> >implying we don't use samba
11:28 < jumi> >for linux servers
11:28 < ihre> hahahahahhaa
11:28 < ihre> ai caramba
11:28 < jumi> >because fuck logic that's why
11:28 < Markdown1_> is samba still trash?
11:28 < jumi> basically
11:28 < jumi> Markdown1_: yes
11:29 < jumi> ihre: so basically everything here has been installed without a single grain of thought put into it, and now we're reaping the rewards
11:29 < ihre> Markdown1_: depends on your use case, its arguably the easiest way to share printers w/ auth from linux in combination with cups :P
11:29 < Markdown1_> hmm Interesting.
11:30 < ihre> jumi: same shit at the comp i currently 'consult' for ;p
11:30 < jumi> ihre: funniest thing is, after uncovering all this shit, one of the higher ups has told us that we have no budget for fixing anything
11:30 < jumi> but that he wants it fixed nonetheless
11:30 < jumi> so tomorrow I have a meeting with him
11:30 < jumi> still debating if I should bring the tire iron with me or not
11:31 < ihre> a simple calculator might do the trick
11:31 < ihre> you want over 9000, we have 0, please show me how this works on this calculator
11:32 < ihre> https://i.imgur.com/QdnQlt4.png one of those
11:39 < jumi> my boss just came over
11:39 < jumi> to talk about the meeting we have tomorrow
11:39 < jumi> we're on the same page basically
11:39 < jumi> "you either pay for what we are asking or you fix this yourself"
12:21 < Hatsjoe> Just make all your stuff immutable, no need to worry about backups then
12:22 < Hatsjoe> Or just move to AWS, its EZ PZ then.. RDS backups are neat, so are EBS snapshots. I wrote a lambda which creates daily and monthly snapshots of backup enabled EC2 machines for anything thats not immutable
12:23 < Hatsjoe> And for anything thats immutable, you have AMIs you can use to spin up your stuff again and these AMIs can be copied to different regions in case of complete region disaster
12:23 < Hatsjoe> Or you can simply regenerate the AMI's if you use Packer to create them
13:04 < rootsudo> meh
13:04 < rootsudo> if you guys want a easy gig just be a sharepoint admin
13:04 < brucevein`> sharepoint is like cancer that companies cant get rid of
13:05 < rootsudo> they all want it
13:05 < rootsudo> all I do is sleep all day and internet and add branding to a composite and make meetings with dept heads
13:06 < ihre> sounds like production line work tho
13:08 < rootsudo> ihre which is perfect I don't want to be here for more than a few wees
13:08 < rootsudo> here to get some cash at a good rate and kill time as I study my MCSE
13:26 < Hunterkll> yea
13:26 < Hunterkll> sharepoint is pretty easy
13:26 < Hunterkll> 2013+ is a cakewalk
13:42 < rootsudo> Thanks Hunterkll
13:42 < rootsudo> HEre I thought I was crazy
13:44 < Hunterkll> rootsudo, no, i'm the crazy one for having Dyanmics 365 set up for my cocaine club
13:44 < Hunterkll> :P
13:45 < Hunterkll> Dynamics even
13:45 < Hunterkll> as a reminder, cocaine.support@cocainedealers.club is now open for business
13:47 < nojeffrey> I just bought a dell R720 with 512GB of RAM for ~$2.5k, looking at the price of memory, think i could sell this ram separately for 5k-6k?
13:47 < Hunterkll> what size sticks is that again? 32s?
13:47 < nojeffrey> yep
13:48 < Hunterkll> hm
13:48 < Hunterkll> 32GB RDIMMs
13:48 < jesse> if i have a server that only stores backups and has windows, join to domain y/n?
13:48 < Hunterkll> DDR3 tho
13:48 < Hunterkll> nojeffrey, $140/stick nominally
13:49 < nojeffrey> yeah ddr3, not sure if registerd or unreg yet
13:49 < estranger> jesse: yes
13:49 < Hunterkll> $400 if you find a sucker
13:49 < Hunterkll> nojeffrey, it has to be registered
13:49 < Hunterkll> lol
13:49 < Hunterkll> unreg'd you'd be stuck at like 48GB
13:49 < Hunterkll> lmao
13:49 < nojeffrey> ah
13:50 < Hunterkll> netlist 32GB RDIMMs going on ebay for $140 every so often
13:50 < Hunterkll> and i've gotten netlist ram from dell before
13:50 < nojeffrey> im talking about aud too above, $140 usd, is close to 200 here
13:50 < Hunterkll> eh
13:50 < Hunterkll> either way
13:50 < estranger> Dollerydoos, you mean
13:51 < Hunterkll> thats $3200 AUD then
13:51 < xe0n> loll
13:51 < Hunterkll> 'spose i should just get up
13:51 < Hunterkll> instead of trying to fool myself tha tnapping is a good idea until my alarm goes off
13:51 < Hunterkll> get a shower, make some coffee, cook a breakfast pizzza
13:51 < jesse> estranger: anything special for the file share/folder perms where i store the backups?
13:52 < Hunterkll> already had my morning wank
13:52 < estranger> jesse: as locked down as possible.. same best practices as any share really
13:53 < jesse> fair call, roughly what i thought. i've read in a few places that i should delegate write only perms with limited read access and stuff like that but i don't consider that overly necessary
13:53 < xe0n> arrested dev s05 is so so
13:53 < estranger> jesse: it all depends on your particular environment and requirements
13:56 < xe0n> i wish i had some weed
13:59 < jesse> estranger: figured as such, was just double checking that i'm not overthinking it or going insane
13:59 < jesse> thanks
14:02 < estranger> Well... I'm no doctor ;)
14:03 < xe0n> you could be going insane though
14:03 < xe0n> we would need more evidence.
14:04 < jesse> like using a backup product other than veeam, that counts as insanity right?
14:05 < xe0n> naa
14:05 < xe0n> im more referring to the wilson balls you've drawn faces on.
14:06 < jesse> the only ball i have in my office is a cricket ball :P
14:06 <@cryptic1> morning
14:07 < xe0n> is it a tennis ball with tape?
14:07 < xe0n> half taped?
14:08 < jesse> one that's been belted all around the oval on a flat pitch
14:08 < jesse> it won't swing and it hasn't been sandpapered
14:10 < jesse> proper white kookaburra, quarter seam and all
14:12 < xe0n> haha
14:26 < ihre> are you bored cryptic1?
14:26 <@cryptic1> just checking if the channel was stuck
14:26  * cryptic1 smirks
14:27  * cryptic1 yawns
14:27 <+ihre> ah, forgot to pay the fees this month?
14:27 <@cryptic1> yeah
14:29 < Bru-> morn
14:30 <@cryptic1> morning
14:30 <+giant_it_burrit> stuck how?
14:31 < Bru-> how do?
14:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> mornin fellas
14:42 < Bru-> morn
14:43 <@cryptic1> giant_it_burrit, not really stuck :P
14:44 < darkscrypt> morning
14:45 < c3vin> here we go!
14:46 <@cryptic1> c3vin, you figured it out eh
14:46 < XV8> god damnit DNS
14:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> ahh yes
14:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> my laptop hdd is ticking at 30 beats per minute
14:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> keepnig my day nice and timely
14:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> good job hdd
14:49 < Hunterkll> O.o
14:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> i shuold use this as a metronome
14:50 <+ihre> or a drum computer
14:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> yeaahhh boi
14:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> speaking of, im trying to convince the wife to let me buy an eDrum kit
14:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> but she's mre worried abuot "debt" and "buying a new house" and "kids"
14:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> ;_;
14:52 < c3vin> bro, do you even crypto?
14:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> twist... i told her we could have kids when we pay off our student loans and get a bigger house
14:52 < XV8> So, I am moving to a new desk that another Jr Sysadmin was sitting at, and apparently they thought keeping a hard-disk clone/backup of a mission-critical server in a desk drawer was a good idea. Guess who has to write up the paperwork on that incident. =_=
14:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> she's a monster now, we paid like 20k in loans last year, we're almost done lol
14:52 < SynMonger> sounds like it's time for a master's degree
14:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> SynMonger: I'm finihsing my bachelors..... ;)
14:53 < c3vin> oh god, my wife is all into the masters idea
14:53 < c3vin> 60k of debt to make 50k year
14:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> looks like i have... 2 semesters left
14:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> c3vin: teacher?
14:53 < c3vin> nutrition
14:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> if she can make it one jsut your income I say just nuke the debt
14:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> fuck student loans
14:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> I'm living like I'm an $8 hour bro right now
14:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> that's actually a bad idea
14:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> don't listen me to
14:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> wow I'm spamming, afk
14:55 < am0nrahx> get fukt
14:56 < McDonaldsWiFi> i've been off adderall for a week, just got my script back yesterday
14:56 < McDonaldsWiFi> I'm feeling GOOD
14:56 < c3vin> lol
14:57 < c3vin> is it XR?
14:57 < c3vin> that's the good shit
14:57 <@cryptic1> calm down
14:57 < c3vin> I like microdosing better actually
14:57 <@cryptic1> everyone calm down
14:57 < Hunterkll> ya'll just jealous yer PC not sexy like mine
14:57 < c3vin> LSD
14:57 <+giant_it_burrit> Hunterkll:
14:57 <+giant_it_burrit> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sccm/core/plan-design/configs/recommended-hardware
14:58 <+giant_it_burrit> is the 1st thing overkill?
14:58 < Hunterkll> ?\
14:58 < Hunterkll> giant_it_burrit, which first thing
14:58 <+giant_it_burrit> Stand-alone primary site server with a database site role on the same server
14:58 <+giant_it_burrit> 16 cores
14:59 < Hunterkll> giant_it_burrit, boy, i'm about to beat the fuck out of you because i KNOW you did not read everything above that chart
14:59 <+giant_it_burrit> hehehehehe
14:59 < Hunterkll> giant_it_burrit, here
14:59 < Hunterkll> i'll do it for you
14:59 <+giant_it_burrit> it said might
14:59 <+giant_it_burrit> i spooked
14:59 < Hunterkll> This section provides recommended hardware configurations for Configuration Manager site systems for deployments that support the maximum number of clients and use most or all Configuration Manager features. Deployments that support less than the maximum number of clients and don't use all available features might require fewer computer resource
14:59 < Hunterkll> This section provides recommended hardware configurations for Configuration Manager site systems for deployments that support the maximum number of clients and use most or all Configuration Manager features. Deployments that support less than the maximum number of clients and don't use all available features might require fewer computer resource
15:00 < Hunterkll> This section provides recommended hardware configurations for Configuration Manager site systems for deployments that support the maximum number of clients and use most or all Configuration Manager features. Deployments that support less than the maximum number of clients and don't use all available features might require fewer computer resource
15:00 < McDonaldsWiFi> PRIVACY POLICY UPDATE
15:00 < arlion> even worse, privacy policy spam.
15:01 < Hunterkll> giant_it_burrit, now, you may ask, what is the maximum number of clients?
15:01 < Hunterkll> giant_it_burrit, don't fucking worry about it, because you'll never fucking hit it.
15:01 <+giant_it_burrit> i already foudn it
15:01 <+giant_it_burrit> i have 150k
15:01 <+giant_it_burrit> plz hlp
15:02 < Hunterkll> giant_it_burrit, come to me when you pass 500k
15:02 < Hunterkll> actually, come to think of it, i bet the CA limit will go up soon
15:02 < Hunterkll> IIRC microsoft is managing over 600k machines
15:02 < Hunterkll> and the limit for a CA is 700k desktops
15:04 < ender|> upgraded TrendMicro Worry-Free to v10 for a client last week, and it's Exchange component started deleting random .xlsx files from e-mails. contacted support, and after some tests, they told me that because .BIN files are blocked, and because .xlsx files are really ZIP files, any .xlsx that contains a .bin file gets removed
15:04 < ender|> every .xlsx file that was ever printed will contain xl\printerSettings\printerSettings1.bin ...
15:04 < Hunterkll> giant_it_burrit, MS uses SCCM *EVERYWHERE* for *EVERYTHING*&
15:05 < corn266> So have y'all restarted your routers?
15:05 < Hunterkll> corn266, mine wasn't vulnerable
15:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> ?
15:05 < Hunterkll> so BLAH
15:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> uh oh, I didn't see this
15:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> there a master list?
15:05 < Hunterkll> McDonaldsWiFi, it's old news
15:05 < Hunterkll> no
15:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> from like 6 months ago?
15:05 < Hunterkll> McDonaldsWiFi, that russian malware the FBI shut down
15:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> the wpa2 ?
15:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> oh
15:05 < Hunterkll> where only the dropper was router resident
15:05 < corn266> they shut it down?
15:05 < Hunterkll> and rebooting it killed the payload
15:06 < Hunterkll> corn266, that's why you reboot your router, since the dropper can't download a payload anymore
15:06 < corn266> I thought there was a persistent factor involved and rebooting only disrupted phase 2 while phase 1 could still listen for a payload trigger
15:06 < Hunterkll> correct
15:06 < Hunterkll> the FBI seized the domains and shit
15:07 < Hunterkll> no more possibility for it to gank a payload
15:07 < corn266> all of their C&C servers?
15:07 < Hunterkll> dunno about servers, but there's nothing for the malware to contact anymore
15:07 < Hunterkll> giant_it_burrit, https://i.imgur.com/1psEvGE.png?1 i saw this at a MS store kiosk in a mall
15:07 < corn266> an IP address?
15:07 < Hunterkll> lol
15:07 < Hunterkll> corn266, it only used DNS
15:08 < corn266> of fucking course
15:08 < Hunterkll> corn266, fixed IPs in this type of deployment would be really fucking dumb
15:08 < Hunterkll> it's a lot harder to muck DNS then it is for an ISP to blackhole an IP
15:08 < Hunterkll> with DNS i can hop all over the place
15:09 < Hunterkll> cant touch this
15:09 < corn266> oh okay, I just read about masking traffic as cdn traffic, but I wasn't sure how that worked
15:09 < Hunterkll> ba da da dum da dum da dum
15:09 < Hunterkll> corn266, i've seen malware that'd hit domains in sequence algorithmically generated
15:09 < Hunterkll> some researcher stopped it because he bought a domain in the sequence :P
15:09 < Hunterkll> that the malware authors didn't buy yet
15:09 < Hunterkll> lol
15:10 < corn266> I remember that, it was some crypt-shit malware
15:10 < JollyRgrs> yeah, that cryptic1ocker
15:12 < Hunterkll> huh
15:12 < Hunterkll> this miso ramen isn't that bad
15:13 < ender|> Hunterkll: said researcher is now being held in the US against his will
15:14 < corn266> "against his will" as if anyone wouldn't want to be here
15:14 < Hunterkll> ender|, well yea that's what happens when your research was merely to take out the competition
15:14 < Hunterkll> and your malware was worse
15:14 < Hunterkll> :p
15:18 < asimon> Good morning my friends
15:19 < JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: whaaaat? no, never... i mean, i've never used one malware to clean up the othermalware before removing that one... no never
15:19 < JollyRgrs> tbh, some of those have pretty good clean-up abilities
15:19 < JollyRgrs> as you said, they don't like competition
15:20 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, nah this is the guy who got nabbed at defcon last year
15:20 < Hunterkll> he crippled some malware
15:21 < Hunterkll> and got arrested trying to leave mccarren
15:21 < Hunterkll> lol
15:21 < Hunterkll> for some ohter malware he wrote
15:21 < Hunterkll> oh yea
15:21 < Hunterkll> it was the dude who stopped wannacry
15:21 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, https://www.wired.com/story/wannacry-malwaretech-arrest/
15:21 < Hunterkll> this dude
15:21 < JollyRgrs> lol
15:22 < JollyRgrs> weezer - rosanna... i give it 2 thumbs up, great cover
15:23 < Hatter> well good morning
15:23 < asimon> "It’s not a crime to create malware. It’s not a crime to sell malware. It’s a crime to sell malware with the intent to further someone else’s crime."
15:23 < JollyRgrs> gm h8r
15:23 < asimon> That's a fun quote
15:23 < JollyRgrs> :P
15:23 < Hatter> JollyRgrs: h@r
15:24 < JollyRgrs> ;)
15:24 < JollyRgrs> /nick hatterade
15:25 < corn266> $3000 for credential stealing malware? seems kinda cheap
15:26 < asimon> That's what I thought too
15:26 < rhqq> mornings
15:26 < asimon> Esp if it can actually do all the shit stated in the article. That seems too sophisticated for 3 grand
15:26 <+ihre> i think ZeuS 'licenses' were cheaper
15:27 < aName> I'm trying to install proxmox onto my r710 - I can boot from the USB flash media I've prepared, but once the menu screen comes up, it stops responding to input - wat do?
15:27 < rhqq> zeus, apache based webserver?
15:27 < JollyRgrs> you'd be surprised what they whore themselves out for
15:27 < Hunterkll> ihre, i dunno, i had zeus source code while it was still being sold
15:27 < Hunterkll> lol
15:27 < corn266> Would you know JollyRgrs
15:27 < rhqq> nvm, you're talking malvare
15:27 < rhqq> malware
15:27 < rhqq> lol
15:27 < Hunterkll> ^-- FOUND THE ROMANIAN HACKER
15:27 < JollyRgrs> lol
15:27 < rhqq> :E
15:27 < Hunterkll> WHOOP WHOOP
15:28 < Hunterkll> WHEEEWOOO WHEEEWOOO
15:28 < rhqq> oh c'mon, im still waking up
15:28 < Hunterkll> v and w
15:28 < Hunterkll> are not
15:28 < Hunterkll> even
15:28 < JollyRgrs> aName: what screen are you getting to? i've got KVM on centos7 on an R710
15:28 < Hunterkll> next to each other
15:28 < rhqq> hmm
15:28 < Hunterkll> THAT WAS NOT A MISTAKE
15:28 < JollyRgrs> but proxmox shouldn't be too far off
15:28 < rhqq> Hunterkll: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkEHzmBSqOU have this ;p
15:28 < Hunterkll> wtf proxmox?
15:28 < Hunterkll> dude
15:28 < Hunterkll> use ESX 21
15:28 < Hunterkll> *ESX 2
15:28 < rhqq> you have v and w ;p
15:28 < Hunterkll> it's super optimized by now
15:28 < Hunterkll> right?
15:28 < aName> JollyRgrs: The opening one - first menu
15:29 < aName> Hunterkll: Proxmox is free
15:29 < Hunterkll> aName, ESXi, Hyper-V, Citrix XenServer, etc are all free too
15:29 < aName> ESXi is NOT free
15:29 < JollyRgrs> aName: i've never installed proxmox... is this once it boots to USB and it is a proxmox thing?
15:29 < Hunterkll> aName, ?!?!
15:29 < Hunterkll> aName, since when?
15:29 < aName> Hunterkll: Since always?
15:29 < Hunterkll> aName, uh dude ...
15:29 < aName> Hunterkll: they offer a free edition, but it's missing features
15:30 < jesse> doesn't mean it's not free...
15:30 < Hunterkll> ESXi is the hypervisor, everything else on top is part of the vsphere stack
15:30 < Hunterkll> esxi is a component of vsphere
15:30 < felda> oh boy Facebook removed the option to view your timeline in chronological order
15:30 < Hunterkll> most of the advanced esxi features (beyond raising the limits of some things) require outside components
15:30 < aName> Hunterkll: Sure - and I can get all of those features with proxmox for free =p
15:30 < Hunterkll> aName, you can with hyper-v too
15:30 < abakedapplepie> or hyper v
15:30 < Hunterkll> and hyper-v will give you better local disk performance and vCPU density
15:30 < Hunterkll> :)
15:30 < aName> Yeah but windows
15:30 < Hunterkll> to be honest most of my hyper-v guest VMs aren't windows
15:30 < Hunterkll> lol
15:30 < aName> And I don't have a license for windows anyway
15:30 < abakedapplepie> YeAh BUt WiNDoWs
15:30 < Hunterkll> actually a majority are solaris
15:30 < Hunterkll> aName, but hyper-v is free
15:31 < JollyRgrs> rhqq: that's so horrible
15:31 <@Code_Man65> ESXi also has a pretty low RAM limit if it is the free edition as well
15:31 < aName> Hunterkll: But windows isn't =p
15:31 < Hunterkll> it's also a true tier-1 hypervisor like ESXi and Xen  unlike KVM
15:31 < JollyRgrs> i want to show it to the indians sitting next to me
15:31 < Hunterkll> aName, no, there's actually a free hyper-v distro
15:31 < abakedapplepie> aName: you dont need wnidows.
15:31 < Hunterkll> 100% straight up free, no license
15:31 < aName> Hunterkll: Oh?
15:31 < abakedapplepie> its always been free
15:31 < Hunterkll> aName, it's a cut down server core install, you'll need a win10 box to manage it obviously
15:31 < aName> You have my interest.
15:31 < Hunterkll> but yea
15:31 < abakedapplepie> you dont NEED a win10 box
15:31 < Hunterkll> aName, https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-hyper-v-server-2016 note how the eval is Unlimited
15:31 < Hunterkll> true
15:31 < abakedapplepie> you can use 5nine
15:31 < aName> I've got windows 10 boxes
15:32 < aName> that's not a problem
15:32 < Hunterkll> yea
15:32 < abakedapplepie> or poweshell
15:32 < Hunterkll> aName, download that unlimited evaluation :P
15:32 < Hunterkll> aName, it's basically server core with just clustering and file roles
15:32 < Hunterkll> and hyper-v
15:32 < abakedapplepie> if microsoft would just release a vm console viewer for hyper-v server
15:32 < aName> Hunterkll: Cool, I'll check it out
15:32 < abakedapplepie> it would be amazing
15:32 < Hunterkll> no AD, no IIS, etc
15:32 < abakedapplepie> thats all i want
15:32 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, i want them to re-add hyper-v to nano server
15:32 < Hunterkll> :'(
15:32 < Hunterkll> like it was in the first nano server release
15:32 < abakedapplepie> nano server is "dead"
15:32 < Hunterkll> no it's not
15:32 < aName> Hunterkll: I do want AD, but inside of a VM lol
15:32 <+ktechmidas> so I have two hosts that can't ping each other... when I traceroute one gets a few hops and fails, the other just gives me !H (Host Unreachable) straight up, both with different providers
15:32 < Hunterkll> aName, right
15:32 < abakedapplepie> its a container os now
15:32 <+ktechmidas> which provider do I need to go to?
15:33 < Hunterkll> aName, i'm just sayin' that the hyper-v server 2016 does not let you install those roles
15:33 < Hunterkll> lol
15:33 < jesse> i love it when i can just aim windows at our ent KMS without fear of being audited
15:33 < abakedapplepie> you cant bare metal nano anymore
15:33 < aName> Hunterkll: Gotcha
15:33 < ebol4> wut
15:33 < ebol4> oh nano server
15:33 < abakedapplepie> yeah
15:33 < Hunterkll> I have a VM running? wut
15:33 < DomLS3> good morning gents
15:33 < abakedapplepie> they figured it competed too much with core or something
15:33 < DomLS3> does anyone know de wae
15:33 < Hunterkll> oh
15:34 < Hunterkll> it's because of docker
15:34 < Hunterkll> lol
15:34 < abakedapplepie> yes
15:34 <+ktechmidas> hm... no-one good with networking in here today? :D
15:34 < DomLS3> ktechmidas: what you need my guy?
15:34 < abakedapplepie> once docker went retail they moved nano to container only
15:34 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, no, it didn't 'compete' with core at all
15:34 < ebol4> ktechmidas: what are you pinging? internal IP's?
15:34 < abakedapplepie> i know, but that was one of the justifications
15:34 < Hunterkll> christ, you're paying for SA either way
15:34 <+ktechmidas> DomLS3: I have two servers with two providers... can't ping each other
15:34 <+ktechmidas> no, external IPs
15:34 <+ktechmidas> 103.
15:34 < DomLS3> ktechmidas: virtuals or physicals
15:34 <+ktechmidas> one's virtual, one's physical
15:34 < ebol4> ktechmidas: yeah, sounds like one of them doesn't have routes for the other or something
15:35 < DomLS3> is the virtual a guest on the physical
15:35 <+ktechmidas> the physical one is the one that dies immediately
15:35 <+ktechmidas> no
15:35 <+ihre> heh, nano, made me think of https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/999579712484790272 - https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/999808730106445824
15:35 <+ktechmidas> the physical one just comes back with !H
15:35 < DomLS3> can the physical ping the virtual host but not the guest?
15:35 < DomLS3> or can't ping the host either?
15:35 <+ktechmidas> can't ping the host either
15:35 <+ktechmidas> can't ping anything in that whole range
15:35 < DomLS3> llinux or windows?
15:35 <+ktechmidas> Linux
15:36 < DomLS3> well, start with the basics. Are the both plugged into the same switch and on the same network?
15:36 <+ktechmidas> trying to tell the physical box guys... and they've come back with a list of countries they can ping from and said it's fine
15:36 < DomLS3> wait
15:36 <+ktechmidas> DomLS3: I'm not sure, they're with different providers so shouldn't be, but may be in the same DC?
15:36 < jesse> it's DNS. even though you're pinging IPs, it's DNS.
15:36 < Hunterkll> ?!!?!?!?!
15:36 < Hunterkll> When did Hyper-V get NAT?!?!!?
15:36 < DomLS3> ktechmidas: are they located in the same building?
15:37 < cantibot> so the internet is back up
15:37 < Hunterkll> holy shit
15:37 < Hunterkll> how did i miss this
15:37 < Hunterkll> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/virtualization/hyper-v-on-windows/user-guide/setup-nat-network
15:37 < corn266> >equating everything with nothing
15:37 <+ktechmidas> DomLS3: I suspect so, but neither provider will tell me where the server is :P
15:37 < cantibot> but yesterday was so bad I went out and drank heavily
15:37 < cantibot> and now my insides hurt :(
15:37 < Hunterkll> this changes everything
15:37 < corn266> is elon musk going to give us all super powers?
15:37 <+ktechmidas> but it's a small enough city, with only a few locations
15:37 < DomLS3> ktechmidas: well that's a problem, but sounds like an access rule in the firewall. Have you checked logs to make sure your ping is coming through and if it's getting dropped?
15:38 <+ktechmidas> DomLS3: it's not getting dropped by my boxes... maybe further upstream somewhere?
15:38 < rhqq> JollyRgrs: why horrible? :P
15:38 < rhqq> sounds about right
15:38 < DomLS3> are your boxes on the same network that controls those other 2 boxes?
15:38 <+ktechmidas> unfortunately when I ask their support... they just send me a list of places they can traceroute from around the world
15:38 < DomLS3> I would assume not since they are separate isps
15:39 < rhqq> in fact back in times i worked in noc, i had numerous indian guys using weird words
15:39 < rhqq> A for elephant, H for hitler...
15:39 < rhqq> name it
15:39 <+ktechmidas> I would also assume not... but it's odd
15:39 < DomLS3> you need to check if the firewall on provider1 is dropping packets to server 1 and vice versa on provider2/server2
15:39 < rhqq> also a plethora of indian names that i've heard for the first time in my life
15:39 < rhqq> used as a fucking phonetic alphabet
15:39 <+ktechmidas> DomLS3: Hold on lemme put these traceroutes somewhere
15:40 < jesse> rhqq: perhaps when people do certs the phonetic alphabet should be mandatory learning
15:40 < rhqq> yeah, indian "smart" hands in datacenters...
15:41 < rhqq> "can you see the disk with light blinking red?"
15:41 < rhqq> "yes"
15:41 < rhqq> "take it out pleasE"
15:41 < rhqq> * takes the disk next to it...
15:41 <+ktechmidas> DomLS3: https://pastebin.com/J4qfXt3Q
15:41 <+ktechmidas> sadly provider 2 is going to completely the wrong place (i suspect)
15:41 < DomLS3> 230ms wow
15:41 <+ktechmidas> as it shouldn't take 200ms to get anywhere
15:41 < DomLS3> that trace isn't correct though. You need to run it from one of the servers and trace to the other
15:42 < DomLS3> so we can see where it's dropping
15:42 <+ktechmidas> that's what I'm doing
15:42 < DomLS3> oh
15:42 <+ktechmidas> P2 (the bottom one) isn't going to the right place
15:42 <+ktechmidas> it says 230ms
15:42 < ebol4> you aren't going to be able to resolve this without support
15:42 <+ktechmidas> but I'm not getting any response anyway
15:42 < DomLS3> well that's probably why you're not getting a ping reply
15:42 < DomLS3> not everyone has ICMP reply on
15:42 <+ktechmidas> P1 is just giving up entirely
15:43 <+ktechmidas> DomLS3: P2 works from elsewhere
15:43 <+ktechmidas> it's just this specific route
15:43 <+ktechmidas> between these two providers
15:43 < DomLS3> probably an ISP issue
15:43 <+ktechmidas> but which do I talk to? :PO
15:43 < cantibot> peering issue
15:43 < DomLS3> with those times I highly doubt there's not a routing issue
15:43 < DomLS3> ktechmidas: both but I would start with provider 1 since it's not going anywhere
15:45 <+ktechmidas> Provider 2 is strange too, it stops at a completely different address (103.199.104.69)
15:45 <+ktechmidas> not even sure what's going on, I can't wait until AWS open a HK region
15:46 < Hunterkll> hmmm
15:46 < Hunterkll> I just received a friend request on facebook
15:46 < Hunterkll> from Ana L Beads
15:46 < Hunterkll> ....
15:46 <+giant_it_burrit> hi
15:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
15:46 <+giant_it_burrit> lets be friends
15:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> Hunterkll: plot twist
15:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> its yer mom
15:46 < ny0x> with only two pictures added 30 minutes ago
15:48 < Hunterkll> uhuh....
15:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> ny0x: and its some random half naked chick
15:48 < JollyRgrs> ok, so i need to provide read-only (remote) access to wmi cimv2... i know how to do it via mmc snapin, but can that easily be done via GPO or a script?
15:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> ny0x: its always sad when you see a bunch of pepole you know who follow those people back
15:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
15:48  * JollyRgrs peers towards Hunterkll
15:48 < ny0x> yep
15:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> JollyRgrs: that's a question for Chode_Mayn69
15:49 < JollyRgrs> for who?
15:49 < Hunterkll> i plead the 5th
15:49 < JollyRgrs> lol
15:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> Code_Man65:
15:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> incase you suck at humor
15:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> :)
15:49 < JollyRgrs> McDonaldsWiFi: why are you asking me to talk to your alter ego... chode_mayn69
15:49 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, https://www.infrasightlabs.com/setting-wmi-access-ad-gpo
15:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> huehuehue
15:49 < hxcsp> JollyRgrs: he was trying to make a bad joke
15:49 < hxcsp> ;o
15:49 < JollyRgrs> hxcsp: i shoulda googled... didn't think it'd be that easy
15:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> hxcsp: where have you been
15:50 < hxcsp> right here
15:50 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, for what it's worth, the actual WMI perms can't be done via GPO
15:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> hi
15:50 < Hunterkll> but DCOM and everythiung else can
15:50 < Hunterkll> HOWEVER
15:50 < JollyRgrs> yeah
15:50 < hxcsp> McDonaldsWiFi: i just work in the morning hours unlike half of the slackers here ;D
15:50 < JollyRgrs> i just got to that section
15:51 < Hunterkll> you can SCRIPT it
15:51 < Hunterkll> and deploy it as an SCCM compliance baseline
15:51 < JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: this is for ediscovery, they don't wanna give any kind of local admin to the service account
15:51 < Hunterkll> or similar
15:51 < JollyRgrs> and this will be for servers... we don't license them for SCCM :(
15:51 < Hunterkll> THEN FUCKING USE PSEXEC
15:51 < Hunterkll> https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/Management-Articles/PowerShell-Script-for-setting-WMI-Permissions-for-User-ID/ta-p/53646
15:51 < Hunterkll> ^^^^
15:51 < Hunterkll> theres ur script
15:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> hxcsp: xD
15:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> I'm supposed to find out today if I got my first real-life sysadmin job
15:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> well... by title. I'm a sysadmin now
15:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> but you get it
15:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> FINGERS CROSSED
15:52 < DomLS3> McDonaldsWiFi: good luck
15:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> hey thanks man
15:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> be prepared to drink with me today if I get a thumbs down
15:52 < DomLS3> McDonaldsWiFi: see, I'm not an asshole all the time
15:52 < JollyRgrs> dang
15:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> DomLS3: <3
15:52 < JollyRgrs> move over google, hello Hunterkll.com
15:52 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, deploy the daggon script via GPO against something
15:52 < Hunterkll> lol
15:52 < JollyRgrs> if you don't know something, just Hunterkll it :P
15:52 < Hunterkll> hahahhaha
15:52 < estranger> Who has an opinion on bitnami?
15:53 < JollyRgrs> estranger: i do
15:53 < Hunterkll> is it anything like toonami ?
15:53 <@cryptic1> hunterkll has a website now?
15:53 < Hunterkll> uhhh
15:53 <@cryptic1> how bad is it?
15:53 < JollyRgrs> it reminds me of pootinanni
15:53 < DomLS3> cryptic1: oh it's glorious
15:53 < DomLS3> well he has a domain anyway
15:53 < DomLS3> what was it? cocainedealers.service?
15:53 <+giant_it_burrit> JollyRgrs: redirect it to felda
15:53 <@cryptic1> does it just redirect to pornhub?
15:53 < JollyRgrs> cryptic1: we went over SOME of his domains the other day
15:53 < Hunterkll> lol wtf
15:53 < Hunterkll> hunterkll.com is taken
15:53 < JollyRgrs> hahahaha
15:53 < estranger> JollyRgrs: >:I
15:53 < Hunterkll> wait
15:53 <+giant_it_burrit> cryptic1: no, it goes to  exhentai.org
15:53 < Hunterkll> do i own it?
15:53 <+giant_it_burrit> hueheu
15:53 < JollyRgrs> of all the domains you ahve, and you've never thought to buy that one?
15:54 <@cryptic1> haha
15:54 < Hunterkll> i'm checking
15:54 <@cryptic1> if he does not own it that will be hilarious
15:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> i bought taxationisnottheft.us as a troll site and google kept denying me adsense
15:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> i smell CONSPIRACY
15:54 < Hunterkll> WHEW
15:54 < abakedapplepie> adsense on a troll site lol
15:54 < Hunterkll> okay
15:54 < Hunterkll> i do own it
15:54 <+giant_it_burrit> lul
15:54 < felda> wow cryptic1 I heard about your show "Game of DNS" got canceled for your remarks on the size of JollyRgrs server
15:54 < felda> just rude if you ask me
15:55 < Hunterkll> THAT WAS SCARY
15:55 < Astr0_Belt> L0L. one of our 2003 boxes tanked this morning and I had an "I told you so moment."
15:55 < Hatter> L0L? is that like your thing?
15:55 < McDonaldsWiFi> Speaking of, we get to nuke our old vm stack this week
15:55 < abakedapplepie> oh Hatter
15:55 < McDonaldsWiFi> cant' wait to burn that 2003 server
15:56 < abakedapplepie> such a Hatter
15:56 < Astr0_Belt> Hatter. Not thats not my thing but I'm still laughing inside.
15:57 < Hatter> oh sorry about that
15:58 <@cryptic1> felda its true
15:58 <@cryptic1> it was cancelled
15:58 < corn266> Thanks amazon, I do want to see 500GB SSDs when selecting 2TB+
15:58 < asimon> Who was telling me a few weeks ago about their bitlocker experience and recommending it highly?
15:59 <+giant_it_burrit> me?
15:59 < felda> anyone else sad that Microshaft is removing Software Restriction Policies?
15:59 < felda> I blame cryptic1 to be honest
15:59 <+giant_it_burrit> Hunterkll: what piece of software sucks this week
15:59 < DomLS3> cryptic1: did you see me earlier
15:59 < asimon> I'm running into an issue deploying bitlocker remotely since the TPM isn't enabled by default in the bios
15:59 < DomLS3> I was being helpful
15:59 < corn266> Can y'all recommend a fast external hard drive that's either 5TB or 10TB+?
16:00 < felda> in case you guys are curious
16:00 < felda> https://www.ghacks.net/2018/05/01/windows-10-version-1803-removed-or-deprecated-features/
16:00 < asimon> giant_it_burrit: Did you have a way to enable that without going into the BIOS on every machine?
16:00 < asimon> powershell or cmd kind of deal
16:00 < Hunterkll> giant_it_burrit, nothing yet
16:00 < asimon> Google is telling me to go down the rabbithole with Dell's CCTK software but that seems like a pin
16:00 < Hunterkll> giant_it_burrit, in fact i've whacked out so many requirements and outstanding tasks
16:01 < Hunterkll> i dunnoo what to do with myself
16:01 < Hunterkll> i'm working on personal projects
16:01 < Hunterkll> i have time to do that now
16:01 < Hunterkll> i'm wroking on hardware even
16:01 < Hunterkll> HARDWARE
16:01 < Hunterkll> actually, next project
16:01 < Hunterkll> fix this T430
16:01 < Hunterkll> should do that right now
16:02 < Hunterkll> well, fix is a strong word - i swapped in a higher res panel, and didn't realize i needed a new video cable. gotta swap the video cable so that it isn't all funky
16:02 < Hunterkll> then i'll go back to working on the hypervisor
16:03 < Hunterkll> eh it's the T420
16:03 < Hunterkll> still
16:03 <+giant_it_burrit> Hunterkll: if you get bored you can try to not pound your head against the wall helping me with sccm
16:03 < Hunterkll> giant_it_burrit, go bother ##SCCM
16:03 < Hunterkll> mainly JollyRgrs
16:03 < Hunterkll> :P
16:04 <+giant_it_burrit> why do that when i have you
16:04 <+giant_it_burrit> :D
16:04 < Hunterkll> because i'm about to shove a brick up your ass
16:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> so.... each IT user has an admin account too
16:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> I'm gettinga new IT business director...
16:04 <+giant_it_burrit> you're coming to visit?!
16:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> am I a bad person if I don't 'give them an admina ccount...
16:04 <+giant_it_burrit> nope
16:04 <+giant_it_burrit> why would you be a bad person
16:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> idk lol
16:05 <+giant_it_burrit> why do they need admin
16:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> they don't
16:05 <+giant_it_burrit> cryptic1: what about you
16:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> yeah answered my own questio
16:05 <+giant_it_burrit> any software suck this week
16:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> xD
16:05 <+giant_it_burrit> as the owner of thisfuckingpieceofsoftwaresucks.com i want to redirect it
16:06 < felda> is AppLocker easy to use?
16:08 < DomLS3> cryptic1: back to work
16:08 < DomLS3> felda: pfsense is garbage
16:08 < DomLS3> McDonaldsWiFi: good luck with the possible job homey
16:08 <@cryptic1> D:
16:08 < DomLS3> giant_it_burrit: fix your fucken name
16:08 < DomLS3> that is all
16:09 < DomLS3> abuse
16:09 < DomLS3> he requested no such thing
16:09 < DomLS3> I have logs to prove
16:09 < DomLS3> I will be submitting a formal complaint to complaints@reddit-sysadmin.com
16:09 < Hatter> cryptic1: no more picking on Dom, that's part of the new way
16:09 < DomLS3> Hatter
16:09 < DomLS3> I'm trying really hard to be nice today
16:09 < DomLS3> please don't fuck it up
16:09 < Hatter> what is that a threat
16:10 < DomLS3> yeah yeah "you don't take kindly to threats" we've heard that story already
16:10 < Hatter> glad it sunk in
16:13 < McDonaldsWiFi> DomLS3: thaks man
16:13 < McDonaldsWiFi> i'm pretty nervous bout it tbh
16:13 < abakedapplepie> are you applying to mcdonalds
16:13 < DomLS3> abakedapplepie: that would be awesome
16:14 < abakedpecanpie> oof
16:14 < abakedapplepie> my bones
16:14 < abakedpecanpie> keep it going
16:14 < abakedpecanpie> same amount of characters too
16:15 < ebol4> why does outlook still pop up to tell you that a CANCELLED meeting is happening in 15 minutes
16:15 <+giant_it_burrit> abakedpecanpie:  any software suck this week?
16:15 < JollyRgrs> thanks Hunterkll... that ps1 worked exactly as advertised, i don't need to do all the other DCOM stuff, all I need to do is the script and that's it :)
16:16 < JollyRgrs> ebol4: because the email came in, but you never acknowledged the email
16:16 < abakedpecanpie> giant_it_burrit: always
16:16 < JollyRgrs> also b/c ebol4
16:16 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, oh yea that script did more than the GPO stuff
16:16 < Hunterkll> er did it as well
16:16 <+giant_it_burrit> abakedpecanpie:  which?
16:16 < Hunterkll> whatever
16:17 < Hunterkll> i used ti for user agent identification for a palo actually
16:17 < JollyRgrs> i know what you meant
16:17 < Hunterkll> that's how i knew about it
16:17 < JollyRgrs> nice
16:17 < ebol4> JollyRgrs: sheeeeeooooot
16:17 < JollyRgrs> ebol4: gotta click that "remove from my calendar"
16:17 < JollyRgrs> unless you are trying to look busy and don't want that slot to fill back up :P
16:17 < JollyRgrs> not that i've EVER done that before!
16:18 <+giant_it_burrit> JollyRgrs: what software sucked this week?
16:18 < ebol4> pretty much all of the software
16:18 <+giant_it_burrit> ebol4: pick something
16:19 < ebol4> outlook
16:19 < JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: JRE
16:20 <+giant_it_burrit> JollyRgrs: SE?
16:20 <+giant_it_burrit> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
16:20 < JollyRgrs> SE? when did that change?
16:20 < JollyRgrs> what does SE stand for? if not java runtime engine, it is... shit engine?
16:21 < JollyRgrs> no, still JRE
16:21 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, standard edition....
16:21 < JollyRgrs> lol
16:21 < JollyRgrs> i always just saw it as JRE, never thought about std edition
16:22 <+giant_it_burrit> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre8-downloads-2133155.html jolly is this what sucks
16:22 < JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: sure
16:22 < JollyRgrs> but all versions
16:23 < JollyRgrs> JRE4,5,6,7,8,9,10
16:23 < JollyRgrs> all of it
16:24 < Astr0_Belt> Do any of you guys have intranets in place?
16:24 < JollyRgrs> ...
16:24 < JollyRgrs> Astr0_Belt: could you rephrase that question?
16:24 <+ihre> i have all the intranets
16:25 <+giant_it_burrit> jolly what if i redirect it to java.com
16:25 < Astr0_Belt> Does anyone have an intranet site in place at work?
16:25 < Astr0_Belt> Is that better?
16:26 < JollyRgrs> like... an intranet website?
16:26 < Astr0_Belt> Yes.
16:26 <+ihre> some place i worked at had an intranet site ... hosted externally ... on directadmin ... with iptables restrictions
16:27 < JollyRgrs> lol
16:27 < JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: redirect what?
16:27 < JollyRgrs> Astr0_Belt: my last job and this job both use sharepoint to make their intranet sites
16:28 <+giant_it_burrit> JollyRgrs: www.thisfuckingpieceofsoftwaresucks.com
16:28 < JollyRgrs> lol
16:28 < JollyRgrs> yeah, java.com would be just fine
16:29 <+ihre> Astr0_Belt: what do you mean with intranet though? like, internal dns for lan and have that host applications?
16:29 < Astr0_Belt> JollyRgrs: Hmm I hate messing with sharepoint though.
16:29 < JollyRgrs> oh, i wouldn't dare touch it myself
16:29 < JollyRgrs> that's what other ppl are good for
16:29 <+ihre> i've heard rootsudo offers his services
16:30 < JollyRgrs> yeah
16:30 < JollyRgrs> i remember that, too
16:30 <+ihre> as a dedicated sharepoint admin
16:30 < JollyRgrs> he's one of those weird guys who are into sharepoint
16:30 < Astr0_Belt> ihre: My Director was asking about setting up an internal website for a knowledge base/news and announcements etc...
16:30 < JollyRgrs> but he might be more of a SP admin than a SP site designer
16:30 <+giant_it_burrit> JollyRgrs: try now
16:30 < JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: no
16:30 <+ihre> Astr0_Belt: so basically what i've described then
16:30 <+giant_it_burrit> http://www.thisfuckingpieceofsoftwaresucks.com/
16:30 <+giant_it_burrit> that one
16:30 < JollyRgrs> Astr0_Belt: are you an MS shop?
16:31 < JollyRgrs> Yammer is setup to post news/announcements/etc
16:31 < JollyRgrs> i think of yammer as more like a facebook where you can be a member of various groups and get updates on those (incl. the "all company" group)
16:31 < JollyRgrs> sharepoint is more for a site, like where you would have links to HR stuff, etc.
16:32 <+ihre> a portal basically
16:32 < ebol4> a web-accessible page containing information
16:32 < Astr0_Belt> I hate to say it but I believe I would have to go with sharepoint over yammer.
16:32 <+ihre> so an MS shop
16:32 <+ihre> a
16:33 < Astr0_Belt> Yeah.
16:33 < Astr0_Belt>  Fuck. This project might get passed onto my coworker.
16:33 <+ihre> setup wamp, point an a record to the host and youre done :^)
16:34 < JollyRgrs> Astr0_Belt: yeah, you do NOT want to be responsible for this project, no matter which way you go
16:35 < JollyRgrs> it only ends with you having no hairs due to pulling out... and what hairs you do have, will be gray
16:35 < Astr0_Belt> JollyRgrs: Thats what i'm thinking. If I setup sharepoint, my director would also expect me to maintain it when something is wrong. Fuck that.
16:36 < JollyRgrs> "well, you designed the thing, i'm sure you can make this little change to announce the new company policy  about tucking your shirts into the inside of your underwear"
16:36 < Astr0_Belt> Bingo
16:37 < Hatter> JollyRgrs: I was so wrong about elasticsearch setup, it's worse than ever
16:38 <+ihre> ???
16:38 < corn266> rate this https://www.amazon.com/Fantom-Drives-12TB-External-Drive/dp/B07BSWVJ5W/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1527691059&sr=1-1&keywords=External+hard+drive&refinements=p_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A5446816011%2Cp_n_feature_three_browse-bin%3A668384011
16:38 <+ihre> setting up ES is easy, making sure it works as intended isnt
16:39 < PacoSinbadad> Anyone have experience with Microsoft Volume Licensing? I think my organization might be overextended a little on the keys:licenses ratio. Is that bad?
16:39 < PacoSinbadad> Or activations:licenses ratio...
16:44 < felda> > DAT FALLOUT TRAILER
16:45 <@mistiry> dbcc: ping
16:45 < felda> try not to get hype
16:45 < felda> get hype anyway
16:45 < dbcc> mistiry: pong
16:45 <@mistiry> felda: yeessss
16:45 < Hatsjoe> felda: link?
16:45 < dbcc> hit me on the super sucrets channel
16:45 < PacoSinbadad> New Fallout!?!?!
16:45 < PacoSinbadad> AHHH
16:45 < felda> https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/8n8rw1/fallout_76_official_teaser_trailer/
16:45 < felda> Completely new fallout
16:45 < felda> not a remaster
16:45 < felda> From the Fallout Wiki: "The Vault-Tec terminal in the Citadel lists Vault 76 as a "control" vault, with 500 occupants. The vault was designed to open 20 years after a nuclear war, and was among the seventeen known control vaults, meaning that it was used as a baseline to compare to experimental vaults. It is also mentioned in one of the alien captive recorded logs (no.13) recorded by Giles Wolstencroft, a Vault-Tec official who was abducted while
16:45 < felda> inspecting the vault's construction site. In Fallout 4, the newsreader in the prologue mentions Vault 76 debuting in 2076 in honor of America's tercentenary when discussing Vault-Tec's plans to expand."
16:46 < PacoSinbadad> I don't even care about Volume Licensing anymore, lol. I know what I'm doing this morning now.
16:46 < felda> so this Fallout will be before any of the other Fallout games
16:46 < felda> supposed to open just 20 years after the nukes fell
16:47 < PacoSinbadad> Fallout: Battle Royale?
16:47 < Hatsjoe> I am hopping on the hype train!
16:48 < pupp3r> freenode: battle royale
16:48 < Hatsjoe> Bought Fallout 4 couple months ago on PS4 after having finished it on the PC years ago
16:48 < Hatsjoe> So I'm all into fallout right now
16:48 < Hatsjoe> Can't wait
16:48 < pupp3r> this is meta. soon there will be a battle royale among the battle royale games
16:49 < pupp3r> to see which battle royale is the best
16:49 < PacoSinbadad> What's the deal with Bluehole suing Epic..? What the heck?
16:49 < hxcsp> they made fortnite > pubg
16:49 < hxcsp> mad*
16:50 < PacoSinbadad> Seriously. Sore losers, it looks like.
16:50 < hxcsp> its like mcdonalds suing burger king for introducing chicken nuggets
16:50 < PacoSinbadad> Wonder if Epic will be able to terminate their Unreal contract.
16:50 < felda> part of it is EPIC stopped helping PUBG Corp with their Unreal Engine support which would break contract
16:51 < PacoSinbadad> Oh so Epic already terminated support?
16:51 < felda> they weren't supposed to but yes they did
16:51 < PacoSinbadad> Ugh.
16:51 < PacoSinbadad> PUBG needed major support, heh. I really wish PUBG was good.
16:51 < felda> either way it looks like really bad optics for PUBG Corp
16:52 < felda> Spend money on devs who can optimize our game orrrr just add more lootboxes
16:52 < PacoSinbadad> moneymoney > money
16:52 < felda> to me it looks like PUBG Corp is on its way to cashing out as fast as they can
16:52 < hxcsp> pubg was good
16:52 < hxcsp> until something better came along
16:52 < felda> the problem is PUBG is shite, but Fortnite is a jump and shoot and shield and arcade and build game
16:53 < felda> so people hate the way they have to play Fortnite, but it actually runs smoothly and very well
16:53 < felda> right now there isn't a really good more realistic shooter out there right now
16:53 < felda> I hope Battlefield V will be better than it looks in the  trailers
16:53 <@Code_Man65> Personally I'm not a fan of realistic shooters
16:54 < corn266> felda inb4 the entire game is opening the vault and dying immediately from radiation poisoning
16:54 < scwizard> good morning peoples
16:55 < dragonfleas> guess what guys
16:55 < scwizard> what?
16:55 < corn266> chicken butt
16:55 < dragonfleas> As of 2 am this morning we're running on a 2012 r2 functional level
16:55 < dragonfleas> <3
16:55 < Seraxis> got myself a HP 2810-24g today in the mail
16:55 < dragonfleas> no more 2003 r2
16:55 < Seraxis> time to  mess around
16:55 < scwizard> dragonfleas: grats
16:56 < PacoSinbadad> I still have 2x2008 non r2. They drive me insane.
16:56 < scwizard> dragonfleas: everything smooth thus far?
16:57 < dragonfleas> scwizard, yeah none of the users even know i did anything lol
16:57 < dragonfleas> so obviously i did something right
16:57 < scwizard> that's the dream!
16:57 < PacoSinbadad> Congrats :)
16:57 < scwizard> when you say "hey have you umm noticed anything recently? like in the past day or so" and they look at you like you're crazy
16:57 < scwizard> then you know you nailed it
16:57 < hxcsp> scwizard: no you never say that
16:57 < hxcsp> they WILL FIND SOMETHING
16:57 < JollyRgrs> ^^
16:57 < scwizard> hxcsp: after a migration like this you want them to find something
16:58 < hxcsp> scwizard: yeah i noticed my sound stopped working. i really need to hear that ding from my outlook but something you did must have stopped it. please fix it asap
16:58 < scwizard> lol
16:59 < hxcsp> any issues that are important will show itself
16:59 < hxcsp> when 3 people walk up at the same time, then you know you have a problem
16:59 < scwizard> the new york times did a long nxim article today
16:59 < scwizard> was a pretty spooky read
16:59 < PfhorEver> once is a fluke. twice is coincidence. three times is a pattern
17:00 < scwizard> well but like
17:00 < scwizard> it's so hard to believe it went smoothly
17:00 < scwizard> so you go looking for something to be wrong
17:05 < abakedapplepie> nxim?
17:05 < abakedapplepie> whats that
17:06 < brucevein`> You cannot replicate powered-off virtual machines.
17:06 < brucevein`> :(
17:07 < abakedapplepie> wat
17:07 < brucevein`> i have a CA server that stays powered off, it may get powered on once a month and patched, then powered back off....
17:07 < brucevein`> i wanted to use vsphere replication to replicate the vm to DR site, but i just realized you cant if its powered off
17:07 < abakedapplepie> oh vpshere
17:07 < brucevein`> i have licenses for recoverpoint, never used it
17:08 < abakedapplepie> chalk another one up for hyper-v
17:08 < brucevein`> any of you guys use recoverpoint for vms?
17:08 < asimon> PacoSinbadad: I think you're probably fine with the volume licensing
17:08 < asimon> Pretty sure we've exceeded our seats at some point but it didn't bark at us or anything
17:09 < asimon> Probably part of the reason that microsoft and adobe are trying to switch over to verifiable subscription models though
17:12 < scwizard> uhhhh
17:12 < scwizard> does Aurora like transcend the concept of storage space?
17:12 < scwizard> it just says "Storage Type DB Cluster"
17:13 < Hunterkll> huh?
17:13 < scwizard> doesn't give information about the amount of allocated storage space below that O_o
17:13 < Hunterkll> Aurora is the hypervisor ?
17:13 < Heresiarch> scwizard: clarify?
17:13 < scwizard> https://aws.amazon.com/rds/aurora/
17:13 < Hunterkll> oh
17:13 < Hunterkll> lol
17:13 < PacoSinbadad> asimon: Thanks. Volume Licensing Center used to baffle me, but I think how it works clicked this morning. We need to buy more. Anywhere to find general pricing for Server 2012 R2 or do I just need to go ahead and contact my reseller.
17:13 < Hunterkll> Aurora is also the codename for the tier-1 hypervisor component of hyper-v
17:13 < Heresiarch> scwizard: right. Clarify your question. Aurora auto-scales storage (in 10GB increments, iirc)
17:13 < scwizard> "Aurora features a distributed, fault-tolerant, self-healing storage system that auto-scales up to 64TB per database instance" icic
17:13 < Hunterkll> PacoSinbadad, well, there's a general list price at low volume you'll pay
17:14 < Hunterkll> PacoSinbadad, that really dosn't change at all
17:14 < Hunterkll> so yes, just hit up your reseller
17:14 < scwizard> ok i guess i'll just not think about that then!
17:14 < Hunterkll> it's a fixed price per core for low volume shit
17:14 < Hunterkll> per 2 core pack that is
17:14 < hxcsp> just dont buy it from supercheapwindowsforme.com
17:14 < Hunterkll> minimum 16 core licensing per server
17:15 <+AnonymooseWork> bah
17:15 <+AnonymooseWork> fuck
17:15 <+AnonymooseWork> having a shite day
17:15 < Heresiarch> scwizard: ...still not quite getting what your question is. Aurora doesn't transcend storage space, but it is architected differently than your standard rds/EBS-backed instance.
17:15 < corn266> has anyone successfully integrated PKI ECA with windows login for a standalone machine?
17:15 <+AnonymooseWork> too many things in the fire
17:16 < corn266> rip
17:16 < Hunterkll> standalone?
17:16 < Hunterkll> you'll need software
17:16 < PacoSinbadad> Anyone using WSUS for other things too? We've seriously taken a big misstep. My boss always just said we had plenty of licenses to install Server, but we just don't. Gonna have to combine a couple, I'm afraid.
17:16 < corn266> have software for windows, not for redhat
17:16 < coderphive> Hunterkll:	you'll need software
17:16 < scwizard> Heresiarch: gotcha, yeah i get it now
17:16 < coderphive> ^ quote of the year
17:16 < Hunterkll> corn266, built in smartcard stuff *requires* ad
17:17 < corn266> oh
17:17 < Hunterkll> there's some 3rd party stuff
17:17 < Hunterkll> https://www.mysmartlogon.com/eidauthenticate/
17:17 < PacoSinbadad> What about Linux for network drives? Could I map to a Linux network drive in AD?
17:17 < Hunterkll> but
17:17 < Hunterkll> *shrug*
17:17 < Hunterkll> probably not on the DOD APL :P
17:17 < coderphive> Listen
17:17 < coderphive> Linux solves all problems
17:18 < coderphive> Just wipe out your AD environment and setup LDAP
17:18 < coderphive> You'll thank me later
17:18 < PacoSinbadad> I do love her. She's running our Ubiquiti NVR like a beautiful champ.
17:18 < Hunterkll> NIS+ bitch
17:18 < corn266> it can't just authenticate to an internally stored CA ?
17:18 < Hunterkll> coderphive, the network is the computer bitch
17:18 < Hunterkll> corn266, that's not how it works
17:18 < PfhorEver> PacoSinbadad: as long as your linux server runs a samba server, then yes
17:18 < Hunterkll> corn266, the smartcard stuff directly hits AD and the user object
17:18 < PacoSinbadad> I'm a K-12 school, though. There's a lot to consider when switching all of them to Linux, I'd think.
17:18 < Hunterkll> it doesn't touch the CA at all except for CRL checking
17:18 < coderphive> Ah
17:18 < coderphive> PacoSinbadad Use Kubuntu 18.04
17:18 < coderphive> Super fast, super friendly
17:19 < coderphive> Also, super super
17:19 < Heresiarch> Hunterkll: don't say that too much. You'll trigger JFDkthx
17:19 < Hunterkll> ?
17:19 < Heresiarch> (the NIS+ bit)
17:19 < PacoSinbadad> I would love that... I'll evaluate what might be the best to migrate to Linux.
17:19 < Hunterkll> THE NETWORK IS THE COMPUTER BITCH
17:19 < Hunterkll> NIS+ 4 LYFE
17:19 < Hunterkll> SMART CARD FOLLOW ME ANYWHERE SESSION
17:19 < corn266> so it can't use the local user object to store a public key and encrypt a message to the private key holding card for authentication
17:19 < coderphive> I would love if we started teaching kids to use linux man
17:19 < Hunterkll> SUN RAYS ON EVERY WALL
17:19 < coderphive> Especially on desktops it's dope
17:19 < Hunterkll> corn266, no, because there's more to it than just that
17:20 < corn266> of course there is
17:20 < PacoSinbadad> Same. We have a Chromebook thing going on now and I'm using Linux for students who don't have a Chromebook for whatever reason.
17:20 < Heresiarch> PacoSinbadad: as a general rule, just about anything can be migrated to Linux except Exchange, AD, and fat-client/older .NET apps.
17:20 < coderphive> I'm running VSCode, Slack, OnSIP, Virtualbox, and Docker and Plasma is at 205 MB of memory. All hail the KDE gods.
17:20 < Hunterkll> corn266, mainly, it's all kerberos magic
17:20 < Hunterkll> corn266, http://www.infosecisland.com/blogview/23657-Smart-Card-Logon-The-Good-the-Bad-and-the-Ugly.html
17:20 < coderphive> PacoSinbadad Chromebooks are huge in schools afaik
17:20 < coderphive> Pretty dope too if you're on Google Apps
17:21 < coderphive> Management is built in
17:21 < PacoSinbadad> We're Google so no Exchange. We use AD, but I don't think we have any old .NET apps we'd have issues with.
17:21 < coderphive> We're considering chromebooks for all of our business employees
17:21 < PacoSinbadad> Man... I'm basically sold on Chromebooks.
17:21 < coderphive> That's a really modern school PacoSinbadad
17:21 < coderphive> wow
17:21 < PacoSinbadad> I love Google Apps Script... I love it so much.
17:21 < coderphive> Yeah, GA makes managing that fleet so easy
17:21 <+giant_it_burrit> ?
17:22 < PacoSinbadad> When I started here, they were talking about Chromebooks and I was not on board, but it's turned out pretty good. And Google is free for education.
17:22 < coderphive> Our dev laptops are almost entirely unmanaged but they're mixed OSX and Linux
17:23 < coderphive> We used to have an AD setup here. I abandoned that for GA tbh
17:23 < Hunterkll> wow
17:23 < Hunterkll> in a pure linux shop i'd still be running AD
17:23 < coderphive> Now we're pursuing pixelbooks for all business employees
17:23 < Hunterkll> would be the only windows servers in the environment
17:23 < coderphive> Hunterkll we don't have a need for AD
17:23 < coderphive> What would it do?
17:24 < PacoSinbadad> Pixelbooks? Dang! Those are nice, but I can't imagine paying that for one. The style!!
17:24 < Hunterkll> centralized login management and SSO
17:24 < Hunterkll> for the developers anyway
17:24 < coderphive> Nope
17:24 < coderphive> That just slows devs down
17:24 < Hunterkll> ...????
17:24 < PacoSinbadad> Almost feels like a Macbook Pro. Just very nice to look at and great in the hands.
17:24 <+ihre> s/devs/coderphive
17:24 < Hunterkll> how?!?
17:24 <+ihre> ^
17:24 < coderphive> kek
17:25 < coderphive> Our SSO is through the same company that provides SSO for our apps, so that's taken care of
17:25 < Hunterkll> seamlessly workign kerberos everywhere slows things down? wat
17:25 < Hunterkll> :D
17:25 <+giant_it_burrit> im tilted
17:25 < Hunterkll> coderphive, i meant into servers and shit
17:25 < coderphive> Yeap
17:25 < Hunterkll> i can ssh into servers and drop into a shell from my user context
17:25 < coderphive> So do I
17:25 < Hunterkll> without needing to do shit
17:25 < Hunterkll> just using putty or ssh from the commandline
17:25 <+giant_it_burrit> what is getting slowed down
17:25 <+giant_it_burrit> im confused
17:25 < Hunterkll> SSO solutoins like Okta just don't do that type of functionality
17:25 < coderphive> Our dev laptops also aren't managed
17:26 < Hunterkll> GSSAPI stuff
17:26 < coderphive> So that's a big point
17:26 < Heresiarch> giant_it_burrit: startup SRE vs enterprise insane person. Fite.
17:26 < Hunterkll> that's not a risk at all
17:26 < Hunterkll> lol
17:26 <+ihre> so that slows your company down, not SSO in general..
17:26 <+giant_it_burrit> Heresiarch: whose who?
17:26 < coderphive> lmao Heresiarch
17:26 < coderphive> to be fair, I've worked at a lot of enterprises
17:26 < Heresiarch> coderphive == startup SRE. Hunterkll == enterprise insane person.
17:26 <+ihre> w/ kerb its bliss
17:27 < Hunterkll> Heresiarch, shit, no, i'm just imagining the *nightmare* that unmanaged systems are in terms of efficiency
17:27 < Hunterkll> not having seamless SSO everywhere would be a nightmare
17:27 < Hunterkll> authentication prompts every 20 second like
17:27 < Hunterkll> damn
17:27 < Heresiarch> they're both right to an extent, but Hunterkll is more correct at personnel scale.
17:27 < coderphive> heh
17:27 < coderphive> It doesn't work like that Hunterkll
17:27 < Hunterkll> Heresiarch, screw security and accountability, it's about making shit easier
17:27 < Hunterkll> lol
17:28 < Hunterkll> that's why starting tomorrow all users will be domain admins
17:28 < coderphive> You want to have pinpoint accountability over <100 people?
17:28 <+ihre> sssd is possibly one of my favorite applications :3
17:28 < Hunterkll> coderphive, again, i said screw that
17:28 < Hunterkll> ihre, realm join fuckyou.ad
17:28 < Hunterkll> :P
17:28 < coderphive> heh
17:28 < coderphive> It doesn't mean the land is free for devs to roam
17:28 < Hunterkll> no, but i mean
17:28 < Heresiarch> Hunterkll: like I said. You're right in terms of scaled-up orgs. But coderphive's arch is more likely to happen in smaller/startup shops.
17:28 <+giant_it_burrit> i do here coderphive
17:29 < coderphive> Heresiarch yeap
17:29 <+giant_it_burrit> im in a sub100 perosn company
17:29 < Hunterkll> Heresiarch, you don't get it
17:29 < Hunterkll> i'm not talking about security or accountability or any of that
17:29 < Hunterkll> i'm talking about
17:29 <+giant_it_burrit> ports are locked down by mac
17:29 < Hunterkll> and yes
17:29 < Hunterkll> 100 person dev shops
17:29 <+giant_it_burrit> printers have a white list
17:29 < Hunterkll> i was one of a two man admin team in one of those
17:29 <+giant_it_burrit> we run ad for auth
17:29 <+giant_it_burrit> because it works
17:29 <+giant_it_burrit> it just fucking works
17:29 < Hunterkll> lol
17:29 < coderphive> Cool
17:30 < Heresiarch> Hunterkll: mmhm. It's possible to run without AD, *if you plan for it*. But that type of planning isn't worth the hassle in the vast majority of cases.
17:30 < coderphive> All of the applications the devs interface with are SAML integrated
17:30 < Hunterkll> i can't imagine having to service/fix systems with a menagerie of local accounts and admin passwords unknown
17:30 < coderphive> but we don't use AD
17:30 < Hunterkll> screw the apps, i'm talking about just working on the fuckin' systems
17:30 < Hunterkll> lol
17:30 <+giant_it_burrit> ^
17:30 < coderphive> What's the system going to do if the apps are locked down?
17:30 <+giant_it_burrit> they have shell
17:30 < Hunterkll> when you have to fix a dev's damn computer
17:31 <+giant_it_burrit> they have root
17:31 < coderphive> and?
17:31 < Hunterkll> when you have to fix a dev's damn computer
17:31 <+giant_it_burrit> you fix because they broke gnome
17:31 <+giant_it_burrit> or wanted a diff gui
17:31 < coderphive> Hunterkll Then they get re-imaged
17:31 <+giant_it_burrit> and the drivers dont work
17:31 < Hunterkll> -_-
17:31 < Hunterkll> coderphive, so you make no attempt at data transferrence at all then? :)
17:31 < coderphive> Explain what you mean
17:31 <+giant_it_burrit> i dont lol
17:31 < coderphive> do we store data locally? No.
17:31 < Hunterkll> coderphive, they saved alocal file
17:31 < Hunterkll> they blew up the OS
17:32 < coderphive> If it's not in Git, it didn't happen
17:32 < Hunterkll> you have no recourse
17:32 < Hunterkll> yea, well, that ain't how it always works out
17:32 < Hunterkll> especially if they were working in their local repo when the failure happened
17:32 < coderphive> Such as?
17:32 < coderphive> Agile my friend
17:32 < Hunterkll> lol
17:32 < coderphive> Commit frequently
17:32 < Hunterkll> SCUM baby SCUM\
17:32 < coderphive> Agile has nothing to do with Scrum
17:32  * Hunterkll shudders 
17:32 <+giant_it_burrit> no you arent
17:33 < Hunterkll> coderphive, i know, i didn't say SCRUM
17:33 < Hunterkll> I said SCUM
17:33 <+ktechmidas> just commiting won't help, gotta push
17:33 < coderphive> kek
17:33 < coderphive> true
17:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> AGILE SCUM
17:33 < Hunterkll> it's a mix of both
17:33 < Hunterkll> i've delt with those shops
17:33 < coderphive> We operate off trunk based development
17:33 < coderphive> so yes if your branch is older than a day, you're wrong
17:33 <+ktechmidas> you know what always confuses me? Why it's called a pull request when you're pushing new code to some repo
17:34 < coderphive> ktechmidas I've often thought about that
17:34 < AnimalFarmPig> Gitlab calls it a merge request, which makes much more sense
17:34 < Hunterkll> uh\
17:34 < Hunterkll> you're asking them to pull your code in ?
17:34 < Hunterkll> lol
17:34 < coderphive> But if you look at the sematics of it it, You're pull from (remote branch) TO (master) ktechmidas
17:34 < AnimalFarmPig> yes ^
17:35 <+ktechmidas> yeah... but you're requesting to push your code
17:35 <+ktechmidas> that would make more sense
17:35 < coderphive> a merge isn't semantically different from a pull, I think I've read that exact wording in the git website
17:35 <+ktechmidas> rather than the roundabout way of pull request
17:35 < coderphive> The operation isn't a push, it's a pull
17:35 < PacoSinbadad> So... With Samba, I can set up shared folders. In AD, when I set a mapped drive location, it automatically creates the folder (%username% or whatever) and adds the necessary permissions. Can I expect any similar functionality using Samba?
17:36 < coderphive> pull FROM remote/branch TO remote/master
17:36 < AnimalFarmPig> you're requesting the steward of the master branch to pull in code from your feature branch
17:36 < coderphive> ^
17:36 < coderphive> obviously git was made by engineers
17:36 < AnimalFarmPig> ^
17:36 <+ktechmidas> wasn't it Linus's thing?
17:36 < AnimalFarmPig> Linus likes to name software after himself
17:36 < AnimalFarmPig> Linux and git
17:37 < coderphive> LinusHub
17:37 < dragonfleas> backup exec is such a garbage application
17:37 < coderphive> new new dating site
17:37 < AnimalFarmPig> relevant xkcd
17:37 < AnimalFarmPig> https://xkcd.com/624/
17:38 <+ktechmidas> oh... so earlier on, I had to make a call in a room full of Chinese execs to explain some shit to another office of theirs
17:38 <+ktechmidas> dial the number
17:38 <+ktechmidas> and start hearing moaning
17:38 < GreyKite> ktechmidas: nice
17:38 < Heresiarch> o.O
17:38 <+ktechmidas> turns out I called a Chinese sex line
17:38 <+ktechmidas> misdialed one number
17:38 < GreyKite> brilliant
17:38 <+ktechmidas> there were 15 guys in suits around me
17:38 < GreyKite> ahahahahhaha
17:39 <+ktechmidas> I said "the 5 and 6 are the other way around on English phones"
17:39 <+ktechmidas> they nodded
17:39 < GreyKite> 15 guys in suits with hard-ons?
17:39 < coderphive> My kind of day
17:39 < coderphive> commits in the morning, Chinese sex line for lunch
17:40 < coderphive> AnimalFarmPig lmao
17:40 < coderphive> GitHub for lesbians
17:40 < coderphive> so many euphamisms
17:41 < AnimalFarmPig> You know how people find out you're "in computers" and tell you their idea for an app or website or whatever?
17:41 < coderphive> ugh
17:41 < AnimalFarmPig> Former non-technical coworker wanted me to help her build "Youtube for Lesbians"
17:41 < silentfury-s4pro> that's called pornhub
17:41 < GreyKite> AnimalFarmPig: no because I tell everyone I'm an esoteric monk who converts goats to the Way
17:41 < AnimalFarmPig> I was like.... "uhhhh.... porn?"
17:41 < coderphive> Since YouTube doesn't already serve to lesbians
17:42 < AnimalFarmPig> and she explained that it was not for porn, but just a video sharing site specifically for lesbians
17:42 < coderphive> GreyKite do u kno da whey?
17:42 < coderphive> AnimalFarmPig we call that sexism in some places
17:42 < AnimalFarmPig> I told her it was beyond my skills, but good luck with that
17:42 < GreyKite> i no da wey
17:42 < silentfury-s4pro> Do you no da wey to San Jose?
17:43 < AnimalFarmPig> GreyKite: I like this idea. If I would make something up, it would be dental floss farmer
17:44 < AnimalFarmPig> would need to move to Montana for that though
17:44 < GreyKite> AnimalFarmPig: right? it has to be something that you can just mumble nonsense about and make it believable
17:44 < silentfury-s4pro> tinder for alpaca's?
17:44 < coderphive> I'd join that
17:45 < AnimalFarmPig> ^
17:45 < coderphive> "Alpaca's near you"
17:45 < corn266> didn't they have a tinder for food, something like "tender"?
17:45 < coderphive> Hell, I might join that too
17:45 < coderphive> Although I think we generally call it yelp
17:45 < GreyKite> oh man, this vendor is dealing with a new site for the first time and is learning why my site is the "good site"
17:46 < GreyKite> normally fuck vendors but I like this guy
17:46 < AnimalFarmPig> I've always thought "Uber for Sandwiches" would be good
17:46 < coderphive> I need to come up with a fake thing I do
17:46 < corn266> jimmy johns?
17:46 < AnimalFarmPig> you would say what kind of sandwich you want, and independent contractors would have the opportunity to make one and bring it to you
17:47 < coderphive> Evangelical Bishop of all things sedentary
17:47 < AnimalFarmPig> jimmy johns is old economy business. This would be a sandwich sharing app
17:47 < corn266> eBOATS
17:47 < AnimalFarmPig> so, no need to worry about silly things like restaurant licenses, health inspection, etc.
17:47 < corn266> "only 2 bites taken out of it"
17:47 < coderphive> Sandwhich sharing app
17:47 < coderphive> omg
17:47 < AnimalFarmPig> because it's sharing
17:47 < coderphive> but
17:47 < coderphive> What happens if I got a side of fries too?
17:48 < AnimalFarmPig> and every sandwich provider is an independent contractor
17:48 < corn266> AnimalFarmPig: https://nypost.com/2017/07/21/officers-slap-5-year-old-girl-with-200-fine-for-selling-lemonade-unlicensed/
17:48 < coderphive> We need a Fry sharing app to pair with over BTLE
17:48 < coderphive> corn266 see, if she made a lemonade sharing app it wouldn't be an issue
17:48 < AnimalFarmPig> corn266: yeah, she was *selling* lemonade, not *sharing* lemonade for money. Big difference. It's like the difference between an unlicensed taxi scheme and Uber.
17:49 < coderphive> lrn2code 5 yr old
17:49 < AnimalFarmPig> ^
17:49 < corn266> oh like filming hookers and saying it's porn
17:49 < coderphive> We call that social media
17:50 < coderphive> PornHub is a social media site bc they have comments, followers, and profiles
17:51 < coderphive> I believe there was an enlightening song with a verse that goes, "It's all about the game and how you play it."
17:51 < coderphive> js
17:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> if I have a two-way domain trust, is there a way to allow domain B's admin to admin domain A with their B credentials?
17:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> isntead of having to make a second admin account for them?
17:52 < PacoSinbadad> McDonaldsWiFi: +1 on that.
17:53 < coderphive> idk about all that, but I don't trust anyone - B-side or not
17:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> its a coorp merger and a temp solution til we build the new AD
17:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> they have equal rights on both systems, and vice versa. :D
17:53 < coderphive> you didn't c what i did there
17:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol.....
17:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> huehuehuehe
17:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> WOOSH
18:02 < McDonaldsWiFi> PacoSinbadad: I added domain B's admin to administrators group
18:02 < McDonaldsWiFi> lets see if that works :D
18:04 < corn266> "temp solution"
18:05 < GreyKite> 5 years later, it's still there
18:05 < corn266> "Why does IT need more money? They don't make us any money"
18:06 < rhqq> that should be some cowsay meme thing
18:06 < GreyKite> corn266: I keep telling everyone on my team that we are simply seen as an expense but they keep saying that they need us
18:07 < GreyKite> they outsourced a part of IT, took a massive service quality hit, and were ok with it
18:07 < corn266> oof
18:07 < GreyKite> and for some reason they think that they won't do the same to us
18:07 < silentfury-s4pro> if they outsource at all, they will outsource it all.
18:07 < GreyKite> yup
18:08 < corn266> Yea at my old job in college our helldesk manager was pushing for us to be the end-all for any question even non-tech related
18:08 < McDonaldsWiFi> corn266: but why
18:08 < corn266> to not be seen an expense
18:08 < GreyKite> oh, you are still an expense
18:09 < silentfury-s4pro> unless technology is the underpinning of your business
18:09 < silentfury-s4pro> you are an expense.
18:09 < Casteil> damn I hate when retailers create shipping labels/send shipping notifications but don't actually ship for another day or so
18:09 < silentfury-s4pro> and even then, you still might be
18:09 < s7rawman> can confirm ^^
18:09 < Heresiarch> silentfury-s4pro: you're just a slightly-less begrudged expense in that case. :)
18:10 < silentfury-s4pro> less begrudged is better than ppure expense
18:11 < coderphive> I hate the way businesses think about cost-centers
18:11 < coderphive> I really even cast doubt whether IT actually fits the definition of a cost-center
18:11 < coderphive> Even internal
18:11 < silentfury-s4pro> IT is insurance.
18:11 < silentfury-s4pro> fullstop
18:12 < coderphive> I wouldn't even say that
18:12 < Heresiarch> coderphive: unfortunately, until there's a way to definitively measure productivity increases, that mindset is going to be prevalent.
18:12 < coderphive> Well, there is
18:12 < coderphive> That's what SRE's excel at
18:12 < coderphive> putting figures to metrics
18:13 < Nightcinder> A federal appeals court has rejected an $18 million lawsuit by a man who claims Comcast Corporation is trying to have him killed. In his dubious, hand-written complaint a man named Tyler Miller insists that the massive company has intentionally "cast him as a villain in their movies and turn America against him" and that the NBC Universal film "Despicable Me" was a "direct hit towards him." The movie "Happy Death
18:13 < Nightcinder> Day" was also an attempt to "ruin his birthday," and Comcast consistently attempts to portray him "in the worst possible light," the plaintiff alleges. The US. Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit dismissed the suit, calling it "implausible."
18:14 < coderphive> Heresiarch I've actually seen a moderate uptick in SRE's working on internal IT stuff
18:14 < silentfury-s4pro> Comcast is evil, but even that is pretty out there
18:15 < Heresiarch> coderphive: makes sense. Lack of SRE is a limiting factor in an org before internal IT is, so why not have the SRE do both?
18:15 < coderphive> It seems fun to me
18:16 < corn266> ugh so I just found FOUO online, do I have to report this?
18:16 < coderphive> idk, I've never done it, but that whole side of the house suffers from lack of innovation
18:16 < coderphive> lots of ground to gain is the point
18:16 < GreyKite> FOUO?
18:16 < corn266> for official use only
18:16 < coderphive> for official use only
18:16 < GreyKite> got it
18:17 < AnimalFarmPig> corn266: does anyone besides us know that you found it?
18:17 < scwizard> database migrations :(
18:17 < scwizard> why are they so painful
18:17 < coderphive> corn266 unless you're a part of the government you're not obligated to
18:17 < Heresiarch> coderphive: -ish. Most of the problems in internal are "good enough" solvable for orgs with enough money to spend, and those that don't have that kind of money aren't going to care much anyway.
18:17 < corn266> well no but it popped up in a bing search as (U) with certain parts as (U // FOUO)
18:17 < coderphive> True
18:17 < AnimalFarmPig> scwizard: mysql [options] < mysqldump [options]  ?
18:18 < coderphive> Heresiarch I think the biggest change is assigning someone who makes 150+ to internal systems, which hopefully will spread as people grow
18:18 < scwizard> AnimalFarmPig: why didn't I think of that before /s
18:18 < AnimalFarmPig> corn266: so, maybe you were just skimming the bing results and didn't notice that one
18:18 < coderphive> a lot of internal salaries are shit
18:18 < AnimalFarmPig> scwizard: see, ezpz
18:19 < corn266> ofc, it had a giant fucking "U" next to it
18:19 < coderphive> Heresiarch semantically I don't see a difference between product systems and internal systems though, just that an SLA is present vs SLO
18:19 < scwizard> my boss was convinced that with amazon DMS the app could access both the old and the new app at the same time and it would be fine
18:19 < Heresiarch> coderphive: isn't really a change, though - just an expansion of responsibility (which never goes wrong in business eyes).
18:19 < scwizard> i'm telling him "uhh no... no..."
18:19 < scwizard> *access both the old and new database
18:20 < coderphive> Heresiarch I wouldn't say expansion. The examples I saw were SRE's working on full-tilt internal systems - no product systems.
18:20 < coderphive> Heresiarch SRE's are generally split by teams, I should also mention
18:20 < coderphive> or they're kind of "roaming"
18:20 < coderphive> depends on the expertise and it's availability
18:21 < scwizard> i'm still trying to understand the difference between "sysadmin" "devops" and "SRE"
18:21 < coderphive> Do you want one?
18:21 < coderphive> I can give you my view
18:21 < AnimalFarmPig> as far as I can tell, the difference between SRE and devops is that SRE's are better at writing software
18:21 < Heresiarch> scwizard: SRE == devops that can write infra-related services as well.
18:21 < asimon> tbh devops still seems like an HR-defined kind of thing to me
18:22 < asimon> that doesn't actually mean anything
18:22 < scwizard> hmm ok
18:22 < AnimalFarmPig> would like to hear coderphive's view
18:22 < rpifan> hi
18:23 < coderphive> 1. A sysadmin follows the "administrator" role whose responsibility is to administrate systems (ie, keep them up) as opposed to "engineering" which is all of the above as well as building new systems. It implies some level of coding but it's not an explicit pre-req.
18:23 < AnimalFarmPig> rpifan: one of my coworkers went to RPI
18:23 < scwizard> that's silly though
18:23 < scwizard> administering systems involves building new ones sometimes too as ya'll know
18:23 < coderphive> Well, it's important to separate the functions
18:24 < scwizard> is it?
18:24 < scwizard> current systems being broken and having to deal with that shit
18:24 < coderphive> Just because you're mistitled doesn't mean we call ducks geese now
18:24 < scwizard> is like the #1 motivator for building new systems
18:24 < AnimalFarmPig> actually, it's a jackdaw
18:24 < McDonaldsWiFi> oh god
18:24 < coderphive> An Engineer has specific talents, skillsets, and responsibilities where an admin has the same
18:24 < McDonaldsWiFi> https://jalopnik.com/this-is-the-most-embarrassing-plane-pooping-story-ever-1456846301
18:24 < rpifan> lol
18:24 < McDonaldsWiFi> this is my nightmare
18:25 < coderphive> I also believe a Software Developer != Software Engineer
18:25 < scwizard> this replication task is stuck at 94%
18:25 < coderphive> totally different and in this case semantics matter
18:25 < coderphive> That becomes more apparent as I explain SRE
18:25 < scwizard> coderphive: you should go into management
18:26 < scwizard> since you understand these stupid fucking titles
18:26 < scwizard> and seperation of responsibilities and stuff
18:26 < scwizard> i don't understand any of that
18:26 < coderphive> scwizard I'm a director at a start up
18:26 < coderphive> but that's like being a team lead tbh
18:26 < scwizard> i just understand "when are you going to get it done"
18:26 < coderphive> 2. DevOps is really just some philosophies regarding building systems and software. I won't list all the philosophies but they're high level. Generally good guidance.
18:27 < scwizard> ok 95% now
18:27 < scwizard> it's too early for lunch tho
18:27 < coderphive> People have made DevOps into a job title which usually implies Systems Engineering or Release Management. This fundamentally ignores that DevOps has a software side.
18:28 < coderphive> Personally, I would ignore the explicitness of making DevOps a job title. In essence, Systems Engineers need to know more coding and Software Engineers need to learn a bit more about systems.
18:28 < scwizard> well my plan is like
18:28 < coderphive> s/coding/coding & the SDLC
18:28 < scwizard> once I've engineered these systems
18:28 < rpifan> damn right
18:28 < rpifan> devops
18:28 < rpifan> boo
18:28 < scwizard> to train the developers in it
18:28 < scwizard> then GTFO
18:28 < rpifan> down with the oops
18:29 < scwizard> so yeah they need to learn more about systems because I'm not stickin garound
18:29 < scwizard> and they're not gonna be hiring a full time systems guy
18:29 < coderphive> You might get away with that
18:29 < coderphive> Usually what you want to aim to do is release systems like software products
18:29 < coderphive> version them, release them, test them, etc
18:29 < AnimalFarmPig> should have just had the developers build the systems (with assistance) in the first place. They'll be able to run it better because they'll understand it.
18:29 < scwizard> whenever I try and do that management doesn't give me goals for the next version
18:30 < scwizard> and then they complain that I'm not doing anything with my time
18:30 < coderphive> That's another strategy
18:30 < scwizard> so in this case I'm releasing training and gettin gout
18:30 < Heresiarch> AnimalFarmPig: trololo.jpg
18:30 < coderphive> Basically your job is to enable devs
18:30 < AnimalFarmPig> Heresiarch: I'm actually serious. You have someone else there to assist, make sure they don't do dumb things, explain why to do things right, but make them build it.
18:31 < coderphive> SRE is a pretty explicit role with responsibilities and focus where DevOps is very implicit. SRE's are branched into SRE Systems Engineers and SRE Software Engineers.
18:31 < scwizard> AnimalFarmPig: that's way too advanced for me T_T
18:31 < scwizard> and the developers are busy with feature requests and shit
18:31 < rpifan> can i jus be a sysadmin
18:31 < scwizard> i can barely build a system
18:31 < rpifan> that knows some python and bash
18:31 < rpifan> thats all i want in life
18:31 < rpifan> and a remote job
18:31 < scwizard> getting other ppl to build one is too hard
18:31 < rpifan> with some blonde haired bohys
18:31 < rpifan> thats all
18:31 < AnimalFarmPig> scwizard: that model works great when you have a dedicated ops team
18:32 < coderphive> SRE-SE's are software engineers with a focus on systems and networking where SE-SWE's know a fuck ton of low level stuff about programming languages
18:32 < GreyKite> rpifan: heh
18:32 < Heresiarch> AnimalFarmPig: that's a lovely idea. But it's kinda unrealistic - the imperatives for developers and for ops are not always...agreeable.
18:32 < coderphive> That's my view anyway
18:32 < rpifan> i gotta say tho, this current role as tech support has meant ive had the time to get into more pragmatic programming
18:32 < rpifan> so ive actually dev'd automation scripts for our tasks
18:32 < AnimalFarmPig> Heresiarch: that's the basic idea of devops. It's hard though, which is why most people don't actually do devops
18:32 < rpifan> speaking of which since the scripts belong to the company how do i show my future employeers some of my work
18:32 < coderphive> AnimalFarmPig ++
18:32 < coderphive> Gotta run, I'll be back
18:33 < coderphive> Recruiting a new SRE ^_^
18:33 < rpifan> whats a SRE?
18:33 < AnimalFarmPig> coderphive: I'm also stepping out for a minute, but send me a /msg about that when you get a chance
18:33 < GreyKite> we gonna do this again?
18:33 < corn266> how in the fuck do they want contractors to implement CNSSD 505 "Supply Chain Risk Management" ?
18:33 < Heresiarch> AnimalFarmPig: fair. Just requires a culture shift from the business on down to implement. ;)
18:33 < GreyKite> corn266: huh?
18:33 < AnimalFarmPig> Heresiarch: and we know how easy it is to change culture! :)
18:34 < AnimalFarmPig> ok, grabbing a sandwich, bbl
18:34 < GreyKite> AnimalFarmPig: you fire everyone and hire new people
18:34 < rpifan> yes
18:34 < rpifan> fire me and hten hire me
18:35 < corn266> GreyKite: RMF on the Supply Chain for System Components
18:37 < GreyKite> corn266: that seems odd
18:43 < varesa> lol, does chrome know what HTTP 401 means? https://i.imgur.com/8sPErW0.png
18:43 < abakedapplepie> why do you say that
18:43 < br34k> isnt 401 bad creds?
18:43 < GreyKite> yeah
18:43 < abakedapplepie> yeah
18:43 < varesa> HTTP 401 unauthorized -> prompt user for credentials
18:43 < GreyKite> unauthorized
18:44 < corn266> 413?
18:44 < abakedapplepie> varesa: not necessarily
18:44 < abakedapplepie> 401  could be any number of issues
18:44 < abakedapplepie> bad headers on an api call for example
18:44 < abakedapplepie> the server has to prompt for a login to get a login
18:45 < abakedapplepie> 401 means "unauthorized" not "bad credentials"
18:45 < abakedapplepie> authorization can cover a lot of things
18:45 < JFDkthx> corn266: isnt that solved by only buying from american companies?
18:46 < corn266> JFDkthx: We already have that policy at the company level, I didn't know it was to be CNSSD 505 compliant
18:46 < JFDkthx> can you link me to that directive specifically
18:46 < varesa> the 401 "unauthorized" is also a stupid name when it means "unauthenticated"
18:46 < corn266> yea one sec
18:47 < abakedapplepie> like i said, unauthorized covers more than just authentication
18:47 < abakedapplepie> it makes complete sense
18:47 < corn266> Just scroll down to 505 https://www.cnss.gov/CNSS/issuances/Directives.cfm
18:47 < abakedapplepie> if youre developing something you should have logs to tell you why its happening
18:47 < JFDkthx> yeah the pdf isnt pulling up for me
18:47 < JFDkthx> sec
18:47 < varesa> I've never met somebody who said that 401 was correctly named
18:47 < JFDkthx> got it
18:48 < abakedapplepie> ive never met someone who said 401 wasnt correctly named
18:48 < varesa> but yeah, I guess chrome doesn't like the WWW-Authenticate header it is getting
18:48 < corn266> JFDkthx: I figured we had a contractual obligation for some "Buy American Act" codified in the FAR somewhere
18:49 < varesa> w3.org: "The request requires user authentication. The response MUST include a WWW-Authenticate header field (section 14.47) containing a challenge applicable to the requested resource. The client MAY repeat the request with a suitable Authorization header field (section 14.8)."
18:49 < varesa> I guess unauthenticated usually also means unauthorized but still...
18:50 < JFDkthx> in terms of classified security we're only supposed to buy from american companies, lest we end up with lenovo pcs with keyloggers
18:50 < JFDkthx> you know. like hp did
18:50 < GreyKite> JFDkthx: so only homegrown American keyloggers for you?
18:50 < varesa> HTTP 403 Forbidden is "unauthorized", 401 is "unauthenticated"
18:50 < JFDkthx> GreyKite: naturally
18:51 < corn266> JFDkthx: So FAR 52.225-13 but that's really just "don't buy stuff from North Korea"
18:52 < abakedapplepie> installed a security camera
18:52 < abakedapplepie> camera is right below an air duct
18:52 < corn266> gzzzz
18:52 < abakedapplepie> microphone is useless
18:52 < JFDkthx> corn266: i could be wrong, i shot my security guy a question.
18:52 < abakedapplepie> WHOOOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
18:52 < JFDkthx> abakedapplepie: put a windthing on it
18:52 < JFDkthx> pop filter
18:53 < abakedapplepie> the microphone is internal
18:53 < JFDkthx> DO IT ANYWAY
18:53 < abakedapplepie> its picking it up through reverberations i think anyway
18:53 < JFDkthx> isolation brackets?
18:53 < abakedapplepie> lol
18:53 < abakedapplepie> not worth
18:53 < JFDkthx> close that vent
18:53 < JFDkthx> who gives a fuck
18:53 < abakedapplepie> its not the vent
18:53 < abakedapplepie> its the actual duct
18:53 < abakedapplepie> lol
18:53 < JFDkthx> rip
18:53 < corn266> Sounds like you need some more duct tape
18:54 < abakedapplepie> oh well
18:54 < abakedapplepie> not necessarily needing audio anyway
18:54 < JFDkthx> duct tape is meant for air ducts
18:54 < JFDkthx> i saw it on linus tech tips
18:54 < abakedapplepie> and duck tape is meant for ducks
18:54 < abakedapplepie> i saw it on animal planet
18:54 < corn266> Bet he dropped the whole roll
18:54 < JFDkthx> but you would never do such a thing
18:54 < abakedapplepie> me? no, never
18:54 < JFDkthx> no
18:54 < abakedapplepie> i leave that to the professionals
18:54 < JFDkthx> never
18:55 < JFDkthx> abakedpecanpie: u gae
18:55 < JFDkthx> stop changing your name to avoid people
18:55 < abakedapplepie> abakedpecanpie sux
19:01 < Hunterkll> "You have to pee on things you own to let the others know. This isn't just to let her know. This let's every other fucker know not to hit on the girl who smells like piss!"
19:01 < Hunterkll> JFDkthx, NIS+
19:03 < varesa> trying to debug that 401 error, if I open the chrome dev tools it doesn't happen (which also means I can't see things like headers). Firefox works just fine
19:03 < JFDkthx> Hunterkll: im working on nis right now.
19:03 < JFDkthx> corn266: i was right
19:03 < JFDkthx> corn266: only buy american goods that meet a certain criteria
19:04 < corn266> Excellent, thanks JFDkthx
19:04 < corn266> We have our DSS Rep coming next week and the paperwork still isn't done
19:05 < asimon> varesa: You can also try tools like Postman or OWASP ZAP to inspect a little further
19:05 < JFDkthx> i think we did poorly an audit for our secret lab and all they said was we're coming back in 6 weeks.
19:06 < JFDkthx> by then we had everything completed, sent them paperwork and they didnt even come back
19:06 < JFDkthx> so
19:06 < JFDkthx> /shurg
19:06 < JFDkthx> shrug
19:06 < felda> you guys gonna try Jurassic World Alive?
19:06 < silentfury-s4pro> is that the new PubG game mode?
19:06 < GreyKite> no
19:07 < abakedpecanpie> JFDkthx: ugaer
19:07 < JFDkthx> also corn266 when i asked my security guy about that e said "oh i didnt know that was a thing, i should probably stop buying random crap and hooking it up to the network"
19:07 < abakedpecanpie> everyone knows pecan pie is better than apple pie
19:07 < felda> nah it's Pokemon Go but with real Dongosaurs
19:07 < Heresiarch> anyone in here familiar with bitbucket and their pipeline/CI stuff?
19:07 < GreyKite> JFDkthx: ahahahahahhaha
19:07 < JFDkthx> felda: talk to alazare619 hes a big dino fangae
19:08 < JFDkthx> and when i say big, i mean he buys everything off of bad dragon
19:08 < felda> lmao
19:08 < felda> dongs and pockets?
19:08 < GreyKite> JFDkthx: bad dragon has more than just dino dicks though
19:09 < varesa> ah, turns out I hit a chrome bug: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=801237
19:09 < JFDkthx> felda: he assimilates the pockets
19:09 < JFDkthx> then uses the dongs
19:09 < felda> lmao he plays dolls and puts the dongs in the pockets, but never actually uses them
19:09 <+giant_it_burrit> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ye84Zrqndo&feature=youtu.be
19:09 <+giant_it_burrit> fallout 76
19:10 < JFDkthx> felda: this is what sex must be like
19:10 < asimon> Heresiarch: We linked our bitbucket to codeship and that seems to be working pretty well. I didn't set it up so I'm not sure how much knowledge I can contribute but maybe I can help with something - whats your question?
19:10 < JollyRgrs> JFDkthx: i assure you it is not
19:10 < JFDkthx> JollyRgrs: oh do you have first experience with bad dragon dongs and pockets?
19:11 < JFDkthx> first hand*
19:11 < Heresiarch> asimon: I'm trying to set up environment variables to be used in bitbucket pipelines - but I don't see anywhere in the teams/repo settings to be able to declare said variables. Does that only show up if you have a repo created and a bitbucket-pipelines.yml within that repo?
19:12 < asimon> Heresiarch: I don't know is the short answer, but let me check to see if theres anything similar in our projects I can reference
19:13 < Heresiarch> asimon: thx
19:13 < corn266> fucking lel JFDkthx and here I am sweating bullets about this whole thing
19:14 < MadCamel> giant_it_burrit: research indicates it'll be a multiplayer survival shooter. yet another one.
19:15 < JFDkthx> corn266: i mean we're still dirty contractors, they can shut us off, but if you show your due diligence and any modicum competence it isnt likely that they will.
19:16 <+giant_it_burrit> MadCamel: i hope not
19:16 <+giant_it_burrit> i play fallout to not deal with you
19:16 < asimon> Heresiarch: Yeah it looks like that kind of thing would go in the .yml file. We've got our environment variables stored in an equivalent sort of deal that tells codeship how to configure things when building
19:16 < MadCamel> they've already said it'll be multiplayer so that's pretty locked-in. survival shooter is just the rumor.
19:17 <+giant_it_burrit> i hate people
19:17 <+giant_it_burrit> i hate you
19:17 <+giant_it_burrit> killing myself
19:17 < Heresiarch> asimon: partly, yeah. But you're supposed to be able to set up variables at the repo/team level as well. I'd rather not have certain data exposed in build logs. Thanks :)
19:17 < JFDkthx> giant_it_burrit: bye
19:17 <+giant_it_burrit> REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
19:17 < JFDkthx> dont let the door hit you where the good lord split you
19:17 < MadCamel> I agree btw
19:17 <+giant_it_burrit> it wont bby
19:17 < asimon> That makes sense, especially in a larger team. No problem!
19:18 < JFDkthx> anyone else think that it's weird that old people let hair grow ON their nose
19:18 < JFDkthx> fucking pull that shit out
19:18 < gnupluslinux> giant_it_burrit is a sperglprd confirmed
19:18 < gnupluslinux> Huehuehue
19:20 <+giant_it_burrit> MadCamel: where does it say that
19:23 < sideup66> Pfsense
19:23 < sideup66> Pfsense
19:23 < sideup66> Pfsense
19:23 < sideup66> felda: you are loved <3
19:23 < Atro> fuck off felda
19:24 < Atro> with your toaster with iptables
19:24 < Atro> piece of shit netfilter frontend
19:26 < felda> thanks sideup66 :D
19:26 < felda> Atro is just a grumpy crumpet
19:26 < Atro> no u
19:26 < Atro> i've got my master race Palo Alto's
19:26 < MillerBoss> I hate nose hair JFDkthx, so I feel ya partner.
19:27 < sideup66> felda: the meme will evolve
19:27 < sideup66> Pfsense is life
19:27 < MillerBoss> Switching to FortiGates next month.
19:27 < felda> I guess I get to go setup a Harmony Hub now
19:27 < felda> wish me luck
19:27 < JFDkthx> bad luck felda
19:27 < JFDkthx> you didnt specificy which luck
19:27 < JFDkthx> so
19:27 < JFDkthx> you get bad luck
19:27 < felda> JFDkthx I curse your soul to 100 DNS server crashes a day
19:28 < JFDkthx> hahaha
19:28 < JFDkthx> jokes on you
19:28 < JFDkthx> our dns is AD!
19:28 < MillerBoss> pfft
19:28 < MillerBoss> Just the tip of the iceberg https://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/alerts/TA18-149A
19:28 < Hatter> hi JFDkthx how are you feeling today
19:29 < Atro> MillerBoss: im fucking sorry for you, but i've some experience with them, so hit me up because i'm already stockholm
19:29 < JFDkthx> hatter i had a bad case of the shits this morning, and my asshole is raw from wiping and stomach acid.
19:29 < JFDkthx> so
19:29 < JFDkthx> par for the course
19:29 < MillerBoss> Why are you sorry? Atro
19:29 < Atro> MillerBoss: because they're pieces of shit if you wanna do ... a lil advanced stuff
19:29 < Hatter> see JFDkthx, I've repeteadly given you the chance for civil discourse, and that's how you respond
19:30 < JFDkthx> your mistake was asking how i was feeling.
19:30 < JFDkthx> not how i am
19:30 < MillerBoss> Well I have not officially pulled the trigger yet. What is advanced in this sense?
19:30 < Hatter> well just say fine next time damn
19:30 < Atro> MillerBoss: a lil bit outdated, but we had some pains https://github.com/rucarrol/FortiFacts/blob/master/Facts.txt
19:31 < JFDkthx> Hatter: if you were being disengenous from the get go, and didnt actually want a real answer. than you're the bad person not me.
19:31 < Hatter> Atro: where was that file a year ago man
19:31 < Atro> Hatter: well, some still persist :D
19:31 < MillerBoss> Is this still the case >If you make a support ticket, every solution is to format the device and reapply the firmware.
19:31 < Atro> Like: if you wanna use BGP, prepare to have 179 open
19:32 < Atro> uhhh
19:32 < Atro> now they've gotten better
19:32 < Atro> But lets say i had to update the SSD driver on a 100D because i got EXT3 corruption
19:33 < MillerBoss> The GUI always seems to glitch, no matter the version of the browser.
19:33 < MillerBoss> Is that with 6.0?
19:33 < Atro> more or less
19:33 < Atro> Hatter: for example, the last line of that file is still available to this day :)
19:33 < MillerBoss> I had a in person demo
19:34 < MillerBoss> Talked with a few sales peeps and a few "sales engineers"
19:34 < Atro> MillerBoss: most important thing you need to know : The more you activate on it, the less throughput it has
19:34 < Hunterkll> woohoo
19:34 < MillerBoss> In terms of subscripts, OK. So I was looking at the 30E for remote sites
19:34 < Hunterkll> more asymmetric routes
19:34 < Hunterkll> woo
19:34 < MillerBoss> But the sales engineer said you may want to go to 60E
19:34 < Atro> shit, i wouldnt go below 100
19:35 < MillerBoss> https://www.fortinet.com/content/dam/fortinet/assets/data-sheets/Fortinet_Product_Matrix.pdf
19:35 < Atro> they act weird
19:35 < Atro> maybe the E series got better hw
19:35 < MillerBoss> Remote sites are 25 devices at the max and 25/25mb
19:35 < silentfury-s4pro> palo alto ftw
19:35 < Atro> They also have some architectural fuckups
19:36 < Atro> like if you put Allowed Hosts on Admins, the device wont even respond to ping beyond those subnets,  unmitigated by policies
19:36 < Hunterkll> 'some'
19:36  * Atro slaps Hunterkll with some NP6
19:36 < varesa> the palo alto devices are nice, I've been considering getting a PA-220-LAB for my home(lab) to play with
19:37 < Atro> PAN are nice but they are difficult to operate
19:37 <+NinjaStyle> You're nice
19:37 < Atro> MillerBoss: especially on the small devices, i recommend you act on a NEED basis, as they might go even lower than 25mb
19:38 < Atro> if you idk, activate AV on NTP policy
19:38 < Atro> or some shit
19:38 <+giant_it_burrit> they arent bad
19:38 < Atro> but if you have issues, holla me
19:38 <+giant_it_burrit> plz
19:39 < MillerBoss> Oh don't chu worry there bud, I will.
19:39 < Atro> giant_it_burrit: >control plane security comes before policies
19:39 < Atro> ok
19:39 < varesa> from what I've heard the PAN specs are actually (at least close to) worst case, which is refreshing. In many cases they will easily outperform their ratings
19:40 < Atro> varesa: PAN specs also show Threat throughput vs non-threat throughput, but their price is what pushes people away
19:40 < Atro> you can get a medium FGT with the price of a low PAN
19:41 < varesa> yup
19:41 <+ihre> a medium faggot?
19:41 <+ihre> what are you up to Atro
19:41 <+NinjaStyle> Yes
19:42 < Atro> also,  Fortigate are true FGTs, because they removed extensive logging on the devices since 5.0 and forced you to buy a FortiAnalyser if you wanted to see shit older than 7 days
19:42 <+NinjaStyle> I hate acronyms
19:42 < abakedapplepie> Fgt?
19:43 < SynMonger> we needed the fortianalyzer on our older setup anyway or it would eat the ram alive
19:43 < Atro> well i used ihre's interpretation in the last line :)
19:43 <+ihre> smartereveryday
19:43 < Atro> also the Fortimanager is ಠ_ಠ
19:43 < Casteil> my dev can be irritating sometimes..
19:43 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah fortigate is meh imo
19:44 <+NinjaStyle> But they're pretty cheap
19:44 <+NinjaStyle> So there's that
19:44 < Atro> ye
19:44 < Casteil> asks fucking questions without fully reading the tickets spent time to hash out fully
19:44 < Hatter> I'm moving everything I have from forti to palo
19:44 < Atro> Hatter: <3
19:44 < Hatter> already replaced my biggies
19:44 < Atro> Hatter: what i hate on the PAN is the discrepancy between using services and using apps
19:44 < Atro> it's EITHER/OR
19:44 < SynMonger> we moved off cisco to extreme for the same reason we're using fortigate
19:45 < Hatter> I should have splurged on panorama, I don't have that yet
19:45 < Casteil> then he gets irritated back when I explain it to him ... o_O
19:45 <+ihre> send him a lgtfy link Casteil, as the cherry on top
19:45 <+ihre> lmgtfy *
19:45 < fredopasta> *penis*
19:45 < Jekotia> s/lgtfy/lmgtfy
19:45 <+ihre> no
19:46 <+ihre> layer 8 is ded
19:46 < Jekotia> :(
19:46 <+ihre> MillerBoss: dtn
19:46 < rhqq> [*] layer-eight
19:46 < Jekotia> ihre: What about layer-eight?
19:46 < MillerBoss> Talk to cryptic1 cryptic1 cryptic1 cryptic1 cryptic1 cryptic1 cryptic1 cryptic1
19:46 < MillerBoss> Talk to cryptic1 cryptic1 cryptic1 cryptic1 cryptic1 cryptic1 cryptic1 cryptic1
19:46 < MillerBoss> Talk to cryptic1 cryptic1 cryptic1 cryptic1 cryptic1 cryptic1 cryptic1 cryptic1
19:46 < MillerBoss> Talk to cryptic1 cryptic1 cryptic1 cryptic1 cryptic1 cryptic1 cryptic1 cryptic1
19:46 < MillerBoss> :)
19:46 < rhqq> how about talking to cryptic1 cryptic1 cryptic1 ?
19:46 <@cryptic1> its in time out
19:46 < rhqq> cryptic1: back to work
19:46 < MillerBoss> Wow you know how to use the kick button
19:46 < Jekotia> s/its/it's
19:46 <@cryptic1> D:
19:50 < Atro> fucking dns
19:50 < rhqq> agreed
19:50 < Jekotia> I don't understand all the DNS hate around there
19:50 < Jekotia> My org uses a few BIND dns servers and they work great, no related issues
19:50 < rhqq> dns is responsible for 95% of weird issues
19:51 < JollyRgrs> http://www.isitdns.com
19:51 < Hatter> Jekotia: braggart
19:51 < Heresiarch> Jekotia: that's why you don't understand. Most of the DNS hate comes from MS shops.
19:51 < JollyRgrs> i use bind at home
19:52 < JollyRgrs> i actually need to figure out how to scrap some of the crap in there
19:52 < JollyRgrs> Heresiarch: and most of it isn't the service itself, it is those who are in charge of it not handling it right
19:52 < dragonfleas> um
19:53 < dragonfleas> what do i do if i got the cryptoware zepto virus on our network and all of our backups and files are now encrypted
19:53 <+giant_it_burrit> dragonfleas: ...wut
19:53 <+giant_it_burrit> r srs?
19:53 < Atro> commit suicide
19:53 < khelpw> dragonfleas: prepare 3 envelopes
19:53 < Heresiarch> JollyRgrs: yup.
19:53 < ravioli> dragonfleas: what about the off-site backups
19:53 < AnimalFarmPig> 3 envelopes
19:54 < rhqq> ^^
19:54 < rhqq> yeah
19:54 < JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: are you just trying to get attention in this channel? lol
19:54 < dragonfleas> ravioli, off-site backups weren't approved because they were too expensive
19:54 <+AnonymooseWork> offsite backups?
19:54 <+AnonymooseWork> hahaha
19:54 <+AnonymooseWork> welp
19:54 <+AnonymooseWork> tough shit
19:54 < dragonfleas> of course i'm trying to get attention
19:54 <+AnonymooseWork> nuke
19:54 <+AnonymooseWork> from orbit
19:54 <+AnonymooseWork> and rebuild
19:54 < AnimalFarmPig> alternatively, use your secret slushfund (from vendor kickbacks, etc.) to pay the ransom
19:54 < rhqq> cryptic1: kindly do the needful, we need no attention whores here
19:54 < MillerBoss> LOL AnonymooseWork
19:54 < AnimalFarmPig> and then nuke from orbit and rebuild
19:54 < JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: tell your boss the ransom is twice what they are asking... pocket the extra
19:54 < dragonfleas> will you guys bant me for lying about cryptoware
19:54 < JollyRgrs> no one will ever know
19:54 <+giant_it_burrit> dragonfleas: do you have the backups are too expensive message
19:54 <@cryptic1> rhqq who?
19:55 < rhqq> dragonfleas:
19:55 < rhqq> ;p
19:55 < dragonfleas> cryptic1, hit me with the kicc
19:55 < ebol4> F R A U D B O Y S
19:55 <@cryptic1> typical dragonfleas
19:55 < MillerBoss> Damn it I meant AnimalFarmPig. You know whats up
19:55 < AnimalFarmPig> thx MillerBoss
19:55 < dragonfleas> i found .zepto files in our old network admin share
19:55 < MillerBoss> dragonfleas 👉 that was legit
19:56 < dragonfleas> says date modified was today but I don't see any cryptoviruses on any of our servers, so i'm confused
19:56 <+giant_it_burrit> check your backups
19:56 < corn266> double click it dragonfleas
19:56 < dragonfleas> because that's a ransomware file extension
19:56 < MillerBoss> Still waiting on my 4 Plantronics head sets from RingCentral
19:57 <+giant_it_burrit> rc kills me MillerBoss
19:57 < MillerBoss> How come?
19:57 < MillerBoss> Learn me
19:57 < MillerBoss> I have zero issues with em
19:57 < MillerBoss> Last year they gave iPad minis for 3 new lines added
19:57 <+giant_it_burrit> if you move a user from glip to rc it corrupts their glip
19:57 <+giant_it_burrit> srsly?
19:58 <+giant_it_burrit> i didnt get any
19:58 < MillerBoss> Reseller account baby
19:58 < MillerBoss> Yeah that whole clip thing now using RingCentral accounts I have not dealt with,
19:58 <+giant_it_burrit> you are one?
19:58 < MillerBoss> Yes
19:58 <+giant_it_burrit> i hate you :)
19:58 < MillerBoss> Sign up with Ingram Mincro
19:59 < MillerBoss> Micro
19:59 < MillerBoss> Its pretty easy
19:59 < MillerBoss> Reseller support is why I signed up
19:59 < Hatter> ravioli: why are you picking on dragonfleas? he's a sweet boy
20:00 < MillerBoss> I actually have been putting it off to solve my Glip issue but my sales guy said he would put me in touch with the PM of Glip via Glip
20:00 < MillerBoss> So I can do that and see if he can contact you or something
20:00 < MillerBoss> But giant_it_burrit https://www.ringcentral.com/partner/agent.html
20:00 <@ravioli> i want some lasagna
20:01 < MillerBoss> I have had Ring Central for 5 years now. I love it
20:01 < MillerBoss> And awesome features being added always
20:01 < MillerBoss> Verizon has some new bullshit now too they tried selling me
20:01 < Hatter> ravioli: I enjoyed some lovely Nando's spicy chicken for lunch with a side of spanish rice
20:02 < khelpw> I'm _still_ waiting for things to go forward here so we can switch to ringcentral
20:02 < MillerBoss> Called One Talk https://www.verizonwireless.com/biz/productivity/one-talk/
20:03 < MillerBoss> And today got an email from Spectrum for Microsoft 365. lol https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-05-30-13-02-42-9.png
20:03 < MillerBoss> ISPs, the next MSPs
20:03 < MillerBoss> Run fast
20:04 < asimon> MillerBoss: We're currently looking at RingCentral and 8x8 for a potential phone system overhaul. Anything stand out in particular about their service?
20:04 < silentfury-s4pro> RingCentral support is TERRIBLE
20:06 < MillerBoss> Yeah I looked at 8x8 back then too asimon. I can't recall exactly why I chose RIngCentral but the price was right and with the offered features, iOS, Android, macOS, and Windows phones.
20:06 < tapoxi> is windows phone still a thing
20:06 < MillerBoss> silentfury-s4pro 👉 Be persistent and call them back.
20:06 < MillerBoss> No I mean Windows OS
20:07 < MillerBoss> https://success.ringcentral.com/RCSupportPortalDownloads
20:07 < silentfury-s4pro> MillerBoss: Being persistent with call-centres in the Phillipines....
20:07 < MillerBoss> And now Glip being added at no extra charge is making the product more valuable.
20:08 < MillerBoss> I know, they try their best. I feel bad for them actually.
20:08 < MillerBoss> I know some  Filipinos.
20:08 < MillerBoss> How many lines do you have silentfury-s4pro?
20:08 < silentfury-s4pro> my ex employer had a bunch
20:08 < silentfury-s4pro> i tried to get a godaddy internet fax # ported to them
20:09 < MillerBoss> Right
20:09 < silentfury-s4pro> was an exercise in futility
20:10 < MillerBoss> Fax over an ATA I learned will suck bad unless you have a very clean connection to the Internet. Such as fiber. Coax or DSL has so much "noise". So you know how you need a good connection for VoIP. I learned Fax over ATA devices need an even better connection. This was my experience though.
20:10 < corn266> what's the single word equivalent of "doing the thing" and not the word "fucking"
20:11 < asimon> corn266: "needful"
20:11 < MillerBoss> So when I first set up one location with Ring Central in the end I had a shot Coax connection. TWC replace the whole drop from the pole to the modem.
20:11 < MillerBoss> When it rained = packet loss
20:12 < silentfury-s4pro> it was a Fax over IP
20:12 < MillerBoss> They couldn't fix it. But once fiber got installed it was magic compared to coax. Anyways I spent months with Ring Central, TWC, etc. That was the reason for me signed up as a reseller to get more supper and the training available.
20:12 < dsnvhlm> Hello guys,i'm new in IT. I just wanted to know what is exactly sys
20:12 < dsnvhlm> *sysadmin do?
20:12 <+giant_it_burrit> everything
20:13 <+giant_it_burrit> does it use electricity? we do it
20:13 <+giant_it_burrit> does it not? we do it
20:13 <+giant_it_burrit> Is it a printer?
20:13 <+giant_it_burrit> we don't do it
20:13 < corn266> finally someone else with an electro fetish
20:13 < MillerBoss> Oh so it wasn't one of these silentfury-s4pro https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/unified-communications/ata190-2-port-adapter/index.html ?
20:13 < silentfury-s4pro> MillerBoss: Nope.
20:14 < MillerBoss> So that issues porting the number into Ring Central from GoDaddy?
20:14 < silentfury-s4pro> Fax to Email
20:14 < MillerBoss> they*
20:14 < silentfury-s4pro> Yes, and neither could tell me who was the issue.
20:15 < dsnvhlm> giant_it_burrit: more specific please :D
20:15 <+giant_it_burrit> fuck printers :)
20:16 < MillerBoss> I see. I know from my porting experience the paper work needs to be complete and have the needed info to prove I am able to make changes to current vendor of #. So in my case it was porting out of TWC and I had one that was a 800 number and TWC had it from Level 3. That, I recall, was not simple as TWC could not figure enough out
20:19 < MillerBoss> asimon 👉 Is call recording a need or must have?
20:21 < asimon> MillerBoss: I hadn't even considered call recording lol. We haven't ever used that before, so I guess not
20:22 < MillerBoss> Managers have found it super valuable.
20:22 < asimon> I suppose I could see it being useful in a note-taking context though, so you can review what was actually said?
20:23 < MillerBoss> Right for you or for managers to listen to customer calls and help them be better at customer service and all. I am unsure what your calling environment is though
20:24 < asimon> We're consulting so we don't have a ton of calling throughput or need for managers to listen in to calls. But I do like the idea of having that available for conference calls etc.
20:25 < asimon> Looks like both vendors have that available though
20:25 < asimon> How satisfied have you been with RC's?
20:26 < MillerBoss> https://www.ringcentral.com/office/plansandpricing.html and https://www.ringcentral.com/office/phone-system-features.html are very helpful. Complete satisfied since I got fiber at all my locations.
20:26 < MillerBoss> Completely*
20:26 < asimon> That's good to know! Thanks for the info
20:27 < MillerBoss> We have many DBAs so I can set up many "public" numbers to come in to the same people but they can hear an audible message that "xx line is being called" so they know who to answer and what system to use for that customer for example. And being able to call out on any of those numbers and not just their DID number.
20:28 < MillerBoss> There is a lot of control. Similar to freePBX
20:28 < MillerBoss> And you don't have to purchase desk phones if you want to save money.
20:29 < MillerBoss> Get a headset and the computer softphone
20:29 < dragonfleas> Does exchange online (office 365 business essentials) have a webapp?
20:29 < dragonfleas> like an outlook owa site?
20:30 < Atro> sharepoint?
20:30 <@ravioli> developers?
20:30 < dragonfleas> developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers outlook web app
20:32 < Atro> holy shit
20:32 < Atro> thats an ancient meme
20:32 <@cryptic1> mute dragonfleas
20:32 <@cryptic1> mute dragonfleas ? please vote now
20:33 < asimon> I liked that meme
20:34 < Jekotia> cryptic1: Nien
20:34 < Jekotia> *nein
20:34 <@cryptic1> so far one no which is for "no I do want him muted"
20:35 <@cryptic1> any more yes or no?
20:35 < Jekotia> "NO I DO NOT WANT HIM MUTED"
20:35 < Jekotia> That is my exact vote.
20:35 <@cryptic1> sorry thats not what no means
20:35 < Jekotia> .....
20:35 <@cryptic1> but we have logged your no note
20:35 <@cryptic1> note=vote
20:35 <@cryptic1> thank you, only one vote per person
20:35 < AnimalFarmPig> ballgagged?
20:36 <@cryptic1> that counts as a yes, thank you AnimalFarmPig
20:36 < dragonfleas> if you mute me cryptic1 i'll file a grievance against you with Code_Man65
20:36 < asimon> ./vote falsy
20:36 < Jekotia> cryptic1 dragonfleas Have a deathmatch in #donger to settle it
20:36 <@cryptic1> too busy
20:36 <@Code_Man65> I have received your grievance dragonfleas and determined that cryptic1 was in the right.
20:36 <@Code_Man65> Therefore
20:37 < dragonfleas> >:(
20:37 < Atro> mod abuse
20:37  * cryptic1 smirks
20:37 < Atro> mod un-abuse
20:37 < dragonfleas> I've learned some stuff being in the pen, you don't know what it's like in there.
20:37 < dragonfleas> I've found god
20:38 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: did you ask him how to back up Exchange databases?
20:38 < dragonfleas> yeah, he told me "move to office 365 you fucking idiot"
20:39 < Heresiarch> XD
20:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> roses are red
20:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> violets are blue
20:41 < abakedpecanpie> +v DomLS3
20:41 < abakedpecanpie> vote now
20:41 < abakedpecanpie> plz
20:41 < abakedpecanpie> I vote yes
20:41 < abakedpecanpie> McDonaldsWiFi: my guy, hope you got that job. I need a +v vote brah
20:42  * corn266 votes for corn266 to have +v
20:42 < DomLS3> no
20:42 < DomLS3> that's not the vote
20:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> abakedapplepie: no word yet :(
20:42 < corn266> too late now
20:43 < AnimalFarmPig> +^
20:43  * dragonfleas votes for DomLS3 to have +v
20:43 < DomLS3> cryptic1 ^^
20:43 <@ravioli> https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/30/17408254/microsoft-google-alphabet-market-cap-value
20:45 <+NinjaStyle> go ms
20:46 < abakedapplepie> McDonaldsWiFi: send them a stripper
20:46 < abakedapplepie> "love, your new sysadmin"
20:46 < abakedapplepie> also i am not that pecan pie weirdo
20:46 <+NinjaStyle> anyone ever watch their company monthly updates?
20:46 < abakedapplepie> who even eats a pecan pie
20:47 < abakedapplepie> NinjaStyle i prefer not to
20:47 <@cryptic1> sorry guys voting system is broken
20:47 <@cryptic1> after so many votes came in to mute dragonfleas
20:47 <@cryptic1> it overloaded
20:47 < rpifan> sooo...how do i file a gdpr...compliant
20:47 < abakedapplepie> its not my monkey and i dont appreciate how updates are handled so i just ignore it and pretend things are working as they should
20:47 <+NinjaStyle> i vote to mute dragonfleas again
20:47 <@cryptic1> rpifan, please refrain from talking to me directly until I have agreed to your privacy policy change
20:48 < abakedapplepie> lol
20:48 < rpifan> rpifan, does not collect any personally identifiable information
20:48 < rpifan> if you dox yourself thats not my fault
20:49 < dragonfleas> I live in Tulsa Oklahoma, pls no dox
20:50 <+NinjaStyle> rpifan's buffer contains pii
20:50 < corn266> dragonfleas: doxxed http://kotv.images.worldnow.com/images/16743612_G.jpg?auto=webp&disable=upscale&width=800&lastEditedDate=20180511150102
20:50 <+NinjaStyle> he is not compliant
20:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> abakedapplepie: LOL
20:50 < rpifan> lol
20:50 < rpifan> well im us based so i dont have to comply
20:50 < rpifan> until i move
20:51 < abakedapplepie> does GDPR apply to IRC logs
20:51 < asimon> I don't think thats true
20:51 < abakedapplepie> i guess it depends on if someone doxes themselves
20:51 < asimon> I think even if you're a us company if you service the EU you gotta comply
20:51 < rpifan> i think it does
20:51 < dragonfleas> corn266, who the fuck is that lmao
20:51 < rpifan> does it count if i service euro twinks
20:51 < corn266> Some beaver murderer in tulsa
20:52 < abakedapplepie> euro twinks? lol
20:53 < corn266> rpifan is a mechanic specialized in oil changes
20:53 < rpifan> well the reason im trying to get to berlin is cause of a cute euro twink
20:53 < rpifan> all kinds of oil
20:53 < rpifan> syntethic semi
20:53 < rpifan> natural
20:53 < corn266> oh no
20:53 < rpifan> 10w50
20:53 < tenthshift> guys
20:54 <+NinjaStyle> no one talks about there sex life more than rpifan
20:54 <+NinjaStyle> their*
20:54 < tenthshift> I'm trying to mount a 48 port switch to a load-bearing (aka large) pole in the middle of a building
20:54 < rpifan> yhes very
20:54 < tenthshift> anyone have any recommendations on how best to accomplish that?
20:54 < corn266> If it's a duct I have some great tape you should try
20:55 < GreyKite> tenthshift: how big around are we talking?
20:55 < tenthshift> GreyKit 1' diameter?
20:55 <+NinjaStyle> thats what she said
20:55 < GreyKite> do we care how proffesional it looks
20:56 < tenthshift> GreyKite if possible, yes, it will be highly visible but also like 15' off the ground
20:56 < tenthshift> so mainly from the bottom
20:56 <@ravioli> sounds like you need some sort of pole-mounted rack
20:56 <+NinjaStyle> lol
20:56 <+NinjaStyle> like ravioli's mom
20:56 < tenthshift> giggity
20:56 < corn266> kek
20:56 < tenthshift> ravioli that is where I was going and I did find a couple options
20:57 < tenthshift> but I wanted to probe the chat in case someone has some experience doing this
20:57 < tenthshift> before throwing down $100 or w/e on something that will fall and destroy my switch or my face
20:57 <@ravioli> NinjaStyle: that made me audibly blow air out of my nose quickly
20:57 < Astr0_Belt> and why are you mounting a switch there?
20:57 < McDonaldsWiFi> tenthshift: ever seen those metal enclosures that retail stores use for that ind fo thing?
20:57 < McDonaldsWiFi> where the mount equipment high up on those load bearing poles?
20:58 < tenthshift> McDonaldsWifi no
20:58 < McDonaldsWiFi> lemme find a pic lol
20:58 <+NinjaStyle> ravioli: haha
20:58 < McDonaldsWiFi> nvm
20:58 < McDonaldsWiFi> work call sry
20:58 < McDonaldsWiFi> google it LOL
20:58 < Astr0_Belt> Im confused.
20:58 < abakedapplepie> tenthshift what is this pole made of
20:58 < abakedapplepie> is it solid/hollow/metal/wood
20:59 < tenthshift> hollow metal, but I'm not drilling it
20:59 < abakedapplepie> also, mounting the switch vertical or horizontal
20:59 < tenthshift> it holds up the roof and I don't want to be responsible for fucking that up
20:59 < tenthshift> abakedapplepie I'm open to either
20:59 < abakedapplepie> if youre not drilling into it then you will need to clamp
20:59 <@ravioli> yeah
20:59 < Astr0_Belt> tenthshift: can you mount it anywhere else?
21:00 < abakedapplepie> but what i would do then is get some heavy duty strap clamps / hose clamps
21:00 <@ravioli> clamp two brackets
21:00 < abakedapplepie> and strap a piece of strut to the pole
21:00 < abakedapplepie> then build off the strut to make a frame to mount the switch on
21:00 <@ravioli> i'd do without the frame tbh
21:00 < tenthshift> Astr0_Belt some of them will def have to be on a pole, others can be shoved in a wall
21:00 <@ravioli> make the switch the bridge between the two brackets
21:00 < tenthshift> but the initial proof of concept is gonna be on a pole
21:01 <@ravioli> so one bracket with screwholes clamped, then 1 switch length below that, another one. then screw into those for a vertical mount.
21:01 < tenthshift> ravioli I like that option for cost
21:01 <@ravioli> boom, pay me.
21:01 < tenthshift> but $boss wants an enclosure and tbh so do I
21:01 < rpifan> echo $boss
21:01 < tenthshift> another fun part of this is our ceiling leaks so I need a little protection from above
21:01 <@ravioli> most switches have enclosures around their electronics already
21:01 < abakedapplepie> how would you mount the brackets
21:02 <@ravioli> i meant with something like hose clamps
21:02 < abakedapplepie> tenthshift: if thats the case, do it right and get a small rack
21:02 < abakedapplepie> you can get an enclosed vertical rack
21:02 < abakedapplepie> 2u
21:02 < tenthshift> ooh I didn't see any vert racks in that size
21:02 < tenthshift> that'd be fucking perfect
21:02 < corn266> Is hanging it from the ceiling out of the question?
21:02 < abakedapplepie> yeah theyre out there
21:02 < abakedapplepie> and then make your cable entryon the bottom, not the top
21:03 < abakedapplepie> keep water and debris out
21:03 < tenthshift> corn266 not at all, but the pole seemed an easier route to go b/c it's big and there
21:03 < McDonaldsWiFi> walmart and them pretty much take those small equipment rack/boxes and bolt them around the poles
21:03 < tenthshift> McDonaldsWifi I can't believe I've never seen them; I believe you though, it's the only thing that makes sense
21:04 < tenthshift> I have an old friend who helped install the security cams for new/renovated walmarts actually... I should msg him
21:05 <@ravioli> http://www.icsindustries.com.au/products/equipment-cabinets/pole-mounted-cabinets
21:05 < tenthshift> abakedapplepie that also would allow the worker bees to watch the pretty lights, which appeals to me
21:05 < abakedapplepie> ravioli that looks incredibly expensive
21:05 < abakedapplepie> lol
21:06 < DomLS3> cryptic1: horseshit
21:06 < tenthshift> indeed it does
21:06 < McDonaldsWiFi> I can't find a picture to save my life, sorry tenthshift
21:06 < tenthshift> the bootstrap tells me they will charge hundreds
21:06 <@cryptic1> DomLS3, its broken
21:06 <@cryptic1> DomLS3, you can thank dragonfleas
21:07 < dragonfleas> hello what did i do
21:07 < DomLS3> I shouldn't require any votes
21:07 < tenthshift> good talk everyone, ty
21:09 < abakedapplepie> tenthshift: https://www.tripplite.com/smartrack-2u-low-profile-vertical-mount-switch-depth-wall-mount-rack-enclosure-cabinet~SRWF2U
21:09 <@ravioli> jb weld it to the pole
21:10 < abakedapplepie> that is super neat, theres a 1U angled slot at the top for a patch panel
21:10 < abakedapplepie> fucking slick
21:10 <@cryptic1> DomLS3, but people voted and it was a landside for no
21:10 <@cryptic1> sorry bud
21:10 < dbcc> i miss racking things
21:10 < dbcc> i havent racked something in....4 years now?
21:10 < DomLS3> cryptic1: lies
21:10 <@cryptic1> I have to do what the people ask
21:10 < DomLS3> I saw a vote for me
21:10 < DomLS3> I saw no votes against
21:10 < abakedapplepie> !downvote DOMF
21:10 <@cryptic1> DomLS3, they were private msgs
21:10 < abakedapplepie> fuck
21:11 < abakedapplepie> close enough
21:11 < DomLS3> cryptic1: proof
21:11 <@cryptic1> I don't want to single anyone out
21:11 < abakedapplepie> it was me
21:11 < DomLS3> imgurs or it didn't happen
21:11 <@cryptic1> "Please do not voice DomLS3 he is not worthy and drinks bagged milk"
21:11 < abakedapplepie> lmfao
21:11 < DomLS3> seems legit
21:11 <@cryptic1> now personally I don't care if you drink bagged milk or not
21:11 <@ravioli> i do
21:11 <@ravioli> very much
21:11 <@cryptic1> but some people do seem to care
21:11 < abakedapplepie> ^
21:11 < Atro> bagged milk is alright
21:11 < DomLS3> I drink titted milk from Felda's mom
21:12 < Atro> ravioli ravioli  dont be a cunteroli
21:12 < McDonaldsWiFi> bag > carton
21:12 < DomLS3> cryptic1: so far two people say bagged milk is good
21:13 <@cryptic1> I drink bagged milk
21:13 < DomLS3> oh cool
21:13 < dbcc> is it any different than carton milk or plastic milk
21:13 <@cryptic1> but the people have spoken out against it
21:13 < DomLS3> we're bagged milk bros
21:13 < DomLS3> that's +v worthy
21:13 < DomLS3> cryptic1: but not publicaly
21:13 <@cryptic1> nothing I can do
21:14 <@cryptic1> dbcc nope
21:14 < DomLS3> publicly*
21:14 < tenthshift> abakedapplepie, yeah that one is beautiful
21:14 < DomLS3> err
21:14 <@cryptic1> dbcc tastes the same, probably costs way less to just bag it
21:14 <@cryptic1> although I find plastic milk here to taste weird
21:14 < dbcc> i drink lactose free milk does that come in a bag
21:15 <@cryptic1> it always seems like its slightly different
21:15 < dbcc> does chocolate milk come in a bag too
21:15 <@cryptic1> dbcc maybe but i have not really seen it often
21:15 <@cryptic1> usually cartons
21:16 < technonerd> Good news ambien doesn't cause racism
21:16 < dbcc> why the differentiator
21:16 <@cryptic1> i dfon't think enough buy it
21:16 < dbcc> why makes regular milk so much better (worse?) that it cant be in a bag
21:17 <+PlusVeePurtyPlz> vootdefook
21:17 < PlusVeePurtyPlz> I'm going to start a revolt
21:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> REVULT
21:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> CAN I GET AN R
21:18 < JFDkthx> ugh i dont want to make a makefile for nis
21:18 < rhqq> ?
21:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> one day you guys will do it
21:18 < JFDkthx> McDonaldsWiFi: E T A R D E D
21:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> ONE DAY
21:19 < JFDkthx> i finished it for you
21:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> JFDkthx: y u exist
21:19 < JFDkthx> to be your antithesis
21:19 < rpifan> well that was quite the meeting
21:19 < JFDkthx> McDonaldsWiFi: you should come around more
21:19 < JFDkthx> we playing sea of thieves
21:19 < JFDkthx> could always use someone to throw in the brig
21:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
21:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> i miss you guys, real talk
21:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> work + school = dead james
21:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> :(
21:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> but
21:20 < JFDkthx> yahmez
21:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> fuck sea of thieves
21:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> find a good game to play and ill join
21:20 < JFDkthx> bro
21:20 < JFDkthx> dont even
21:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> i thought it shipped broken
21:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> empty game
21:20 < JFDkthx> yeah
21:20 < JFDkthx> but that doesnt me we dont have fun blowing up other peoples ships
21:20 < GreyKite> I thought sandbox was the idea?
21:20 < JFDkthx> GreyKite: theres no progression really
21:21 < JFDkthx> it sucks
21:21 < GreyKite> so? minecraft didn't have progression
21:21 < JFDkthx> but we have fun sailing ramming into rocks boats islands
21:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> soo you dont have fun
21:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
21:21 < JFDkthx> GreyKite: but you could create in minecraft
21:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> you guys are desperate
21:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> time to fire up the ol minecraft server again
21:21 < JFDkthx> psh
21:22 < JFDkthx> maybe if i run it on my new T H R E A D R I P P E R 1 9 5 0 X @ 5 . 0 G H Z
21:22 < JFDkthx> we can get decent frames during late game
21:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
21:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> or we can run it on my old server at work
21:22 < JFDkthx> fuck that
21:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> 10/10 is good enough right?
21:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
21:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> when i leave I think im gonna hide a bunch of dickbutts everywhere
21:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> in the weirdest places
21:23 < DomLS3> the fuck happened
21:23 < McDonaldsWiFi> wat
21:24 < REVOLT> nogoback
21:24 < REVOLT> join me my brudduh
21:24 < REVOLT> so we can sing de song of my peepl
21:24 < REVOLT> I will show you de wae
21:24 < dbcc> old meme is old
21:24 < McDonaldsWiFi> rekt
21:24 < REVOLT> meme's don't die for a reason
21:24 < McDonaldsWiFi> change your name to rekt pls
21:25 < xamithan> redundancy is redundant
21:25 < rpifan> yay for asking for one thing and getting a differnet things
21:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> rpifan: welcome to it
21:27 < rpifan> but it was a good thing, i asked for SF api access instead they said thye fix the problem my script was trying to fix to begin with
21:27 < rpifan> they were like im so sorry, im not please take it away
21:27 < rpifan> i dont want it
21:27 < JFDkthx> you winders people
21:27 < JFDkthx> any idea why desktop logins would suddenly require users to enter domain/
21:27 < JFDkthx> name
21:28 < rpifan> cause windows is window
21:28 < McDonaldsWiFi> anyone familiar with cisco anyconnect?
21:28 < McDonaldsWiFi> trying to figure out how another static route :/
21:29 < Atro> McDonaldsWiFi: you probably need to modify an access list
21:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> ACL
21:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> ACL!
21:30 < Atro> McDonaldsWiFi: in the CLI, if you do "show run" you can see some group-policies, those are anyconnect contextes
21:30 < Atro> it should have a split-tunnel-network-list
21:31 < Atro> that's the ACL with the client routes
21:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> fml
21:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> CLI
21:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> I haven't touched cisco CLI in years
21:32 < Atro> its easier in CLI, i don't ASDM
21:32 < Atro> But you should find it in ASDM somehow
21:32 < Atro> but i know for sure it's an ACL
21:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> I think I did
21:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> gonna add an outside in acl
21:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> and give it a shot
21:39 < coderphive> Kubernetes is a fucking dream man
21:40 < coderphive> The good kind of dream too. One of those ones in full color where the honeymoon never ends.
21:41 < JFDkthx> coderphive: i had a dream last night that i fell asleep driving
21:43 < coderphive> See, that's not this kind of dream, yo
21:44 < Hatter> JFDkthx: it's impossible to fall asleep in your dreams
21:44 < coderphive> False
21:44 < Hatter> it means you die
21:44 < coderphive> Inception
21:44 < Hatter> oh I forgot about that documentary
21:45 < coderphive> Leo helped us take a journey through science
21:45 < coderphive> Just as he did in the classic documentary of The Titanic
21:46 < dragonfleas> I just brushed my teeth at work
21:46 < coderphive> near
21:46 < coderphive> far
21:46 < dragonfleas> in the kitchen lmao my coworkers were like "wtf"
21:46 < coderphive> whereeeeeeeeeever you are
21:51 < DomLS3> dragonfleas: why in the kitchen and not bathroom?
21:52 < dragonfleas> bathroom was taken and my breath smelled like dog ass
21:52 < DomLS3> I'd be like wtf too and gone straight to HR and complained
21:52 < dragonfleas> wtf lol
21:52 < ravioli> should probably be arrested tbh
21:52 < dragonfleas> good satire
21:52 < DomLS3> dragonfleas: if you ass smelled bad would you wipe it in the kitchen too if the bathroom was taken?
21:53 < coderphive> tbh I miss Tim Bergling already
21:53 < coderphive> Also just be advised dragonfleas that karma is a bitch
21:53 < DomLS3> ^^
21:54 < dragonfleas> What kind of bad karma would I get for brushing my teeth? LOL
21:54 < coderphive> Also, solid question to which I expect a solid answer:
21:54 < DomLS3> in the work kitchen
21:54 < coderphive> How do you know what dog ass smells like?
21:54 < DomLS3> coderphive: go smell a dogs ass and you'll know
21:54 < genr8_> the entire dog
21:54 < coderphive> Also, why are you judging what dog ass smells like
21:54 < dragonfleas> coderphive, I was a dog in my previous life, smelled many a dogs ass
21:54 <@cryptic1> wtf have I returned to?
21:54 < coderphive> Maybe in dog world dog ass smells good
21:55 < genr8_> i think it must for them
21:55 < genr8_> they always sniffin
21:55 < DomLS3> cryptic1: this is what happens when you don't +v me
21:55 < DomLS3> I can't control these monsters
21:55 < coderphive> cryptic1 same
21:55 < coderphive> I turn into a ratchet
21:56 < coderphive> Also since when did I subscribe to RL Grime on Google Play
21:56 < coderphive> like this music is going to give me a heart attack
21:56 < coderphive> I can't even
21:58 < DomLS3> coderphive: better lern 2 even
21:58 < coderphive> srsly
21:58 < ravioli> oh man
21:58 < ravioli> i remember dubstep
21:59 < coderphive> Listen
21:59 < coderphive> You uncultured swine
21:59 < coderphive> This isn't "dubstep"
21:59 < DomLS3> :o
21:59 < coderphive> It's trap and grime
21:59 < coderphive> k?
21:59 < DomLS3> calling ravioli a swine
21:59 < DomLS3> that's a bold move cotton
22:00 < coderphive> grime aka D&B
22:03 < Heresiarch> ahh...so it's more trance-y dubstep.
22:04 < coderphive> No, trance is like really mesmerizing and smooth
22:04 < DomLS3> Post Malone is terrible dubstep
22:04 < genr8_> huh
22:04 < technonerd> It's all terrible
22:05 < DomLS3> just like pfsense
22:05 < technonerd> Brostep that is
22:05 < technonerd> The heavy stuff is amazing
22:05 < coderphive> pfstep
22:06 < coderphive> pfLS3 mayb
22:07 < ravioli> everyone knows that the engine in the corvette ZHZ is the worst engine ever
22:08 < ebol4> i do now
22:09 < Hunterkll> I didn't know cryptic1's name was Eric
22:09 < SynMonger> what's a corvette ZHZ
22:09 < McDonaldsWiFi> DomLS3: you take that back!
22:09 < McDonaldsWiFi> bout pfsense
22:09 < Hunterkll> https://m.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2018/05/25/life-begins-at-conception-law-means-13-year-old-was-really-14-molester-argues
22:10 < coderphive> I smell a ban
22:10 < DomLS3> McDonaldsWiFi: never
22:11 < JFDkthx> im gonna punch the person that set the thermometer in our office to 70
22:11 < DomLS3> ravioli: the ZHZ has a LS3 in it
22:12 < DomLS3> nowhere near the worst engine
22:12 <+giant_it_burrit> why JFDkthx
22:12 < JFDkthx> becuase it's actually like 68 in here
22:12 < JFDkthx> and im fucking cold
22:12 < JFDkthx> goddammit
22:12 < xamithan> Put on some fucking clothes
22:12 <+giant_it_burrit> put clothes on bitch baby
22:12 < JFDkthx> xmaithan IM WEARING A JACKET
22:12 < xamithan> If it is too hot you expect other people to strip naked ?
22:13 < coderphive> ooo
22:13 < JFDkthx> its a 3 person office
22:13 < coderphive> slippery slope
22:13  * coderphive popcorns
22:13 <+giant_it_burrit> super majority says suck it up
22:13 < gnupluslinux> ./popcorn.rb
22:13 < coderphive> ^
22:13 < JFDkthx> motherfucker im the only one in here
22:13 < JFDkthx> so im that majority
22:13 < JFDkthx> so that shit is on 75
22:13 <+giant_it_burrit> suck it up
22:13 < JFDkthx> fuck you giant_it_burrit
22:13 < coderphive> yeah but
22:13 < coderphive> are you white?
22:13 < JFDkthx> more like
22:13 < JFDkthx> giant tit
22:13 < xamithan> Colder is always the answer,  you can always put on clothes.  People get weird when you start taking it all off
22:13 < gnupluslinux> Super whoowyte
22:14 < JFDkthx> coderphive: whats the color of my skin matter
22:14 < coderphive> twitter cares
22:14 < gnupluslinux> I cares
22:14 < gnupluslinux> Lets me know which specifically shitty jokes to pull
22:14 < JFDkthx> coderphive: first of i identify as a reverse apache proxy
22:14 < JFDkthx> im secure in my skin color
22:14 < coderphive> oh, so an inefficient proxy
22:14 < coderphive> rgr
22:15 < coderphive> Don't worry I'm an nginx proxy so I'm better than you
22:15 < coderphive> but go on
22:15 < gnupluslinux> Tfw you dont roll your own proxy
22:15 < JFDkthx> coderphive: dont gatekeep me
22:15 < JFDkthx> you shill
22:15 < gnupluslinux> Fucking amateur hour
22:15 < dragonfleas> anybody know any decent entry level paying jobs for someone who is in college? My girlfriend's in school and she wants to leave her current job
22:15 < JFDkthx> dragonfleas: helpdesk
22:15 < coderphive> where's she live
22:15 < dragonfleas> Tulsa
22:15 < coderphive> does she code tho
22:16 < gnupluslinux> dragonfleas doi g what
22:16 < gnupluslinux> Mutha fucka she in college
22:16 < JFDkthx> dragonfleas: make her do data transcribing for doctors
22:16 < coderphive> and?
22:16 < gnupluslinux> Go to thw career center
22:16 < coderphive> I coded when I was like 9
22:16 < dragonfleas> No she doesn't code lmao, she's going to school to be a therapist, on her 3rd year but she's a beautician or w/e at walgreens for 13.50 an hour
22:16 < coderphive> oh
22:16 < coderphive> nvm
22:16 < JFDkthx> you want better paying than 13.50 in college?
22:16 < gnupluslinux> Go. To. The. Career. Center.
22:16 < coderphive> I have a bald head so
22:17 < dragonfleas> when I was her age I was making 16 an hour so it's possible
22:17 < JFDkthx> back in my day i got 5.85 AND I LIKED IT
22:17 < corn266> back in your day 5.85 was 32.50 in today's dollars
22:17 < pupp3r> ah, yes. the 1850s
22:17 < JFDkthx> dragonfleas: well if you dont want ur girl turning tricks like you did.
22:17 < coderphive> 5.85
22:17 < dragonfleas> JFDkthx, lmao
22:17 < gnupluslinux> Mfw dragonfleas is a day older than his gf
22:17 < dragonfleas> I told her help desk is a good spot
22:17 < coderphive> That doesn't even buy you a penny stock
22:17 < coderphive> gtfo
22:17 < JFDkthx> gnupluslinux: he just never went to college
22:17 < dragonfleas> I'm 4 years older than her lol
22:18 < gnupluslinux> My point stands
22:18 < coderphive> She's going to be a therapist though?
22:18 < coderphive> Like Psych therapist?
22:18 < dragonfleas> yep
22:18 < corn266> dragonfleas is going to be her capstone project
22:18 < dragonfleas> no she's going to be the rapist
22:18 < JFDkthx> the rapist psycho
22:18 < dragonfleas> in a film
22:18 < coderphive> Well she's never going to get a job doing that anyway, so just start interning as an industrial psych
22:18 < JFDkthx> FUCK ALL YOU VENDORS SENDING ME SHIT SAYING IS YOUR WEBSERVICE GDPR READY
22:18 < JFDkthx> FUCK OFF
22:18 < coderphive> industrial psych is also really neat
22:18 < dragonfleas> coderphive, therapists don't have job availability?
22:19 < coderphive> dragonfleas not down here
22:19 < dragonfleas> I'm ignorant to the industry
22:19 < dragonfleas> hmmmm
22:19 < coderphive> Dated a couple of them. Opening a private practice is hard due to insurance.
22:19 < JFDkthx> doing anything privately is hard because insurance
22:19 < asimon> http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=5.85+2007+US+dollars
22:19 < corn266> how hard is it not to didle your patients
22:19 < coderphive> dunno, all I've heard is gripes, the two successful ones I met were in industrial psych
22:19 < dragonfleas> I keep thinking "oh it's not a problem getting a job" because I'm in IT and there's 50000000 IT jobs everywhere
22:20 < coderphive> Their jobs were fucking dope though
22:20 < dragonfleas> She's got to get a masters before she can even do it
22:20 < coderphive> Like they got me on a level when I talked about software dev psych
22:20 < dragonfleas> which is 8 years, so she has a way to go
22:20 < coderphive> yeap
22:20 < coderphive> At least you have a smart cookie though
22:20 < dragonfleas> Yeah she's smart as hell, way smarter about psychology but barely knows how to open a PDF lol
22:21 < coderphive> kek
22:21 < asimon> Tell her to become an ethics officer for silicon valley
22:21 < coderphive> typical
22:21 < dragonfleas> when I was contracting for Pfizer the crazy medicine scientists didn't know how to do basic shit
22:21 < xamithan> Just block all EU countries like the la times did
22:21 < coderphive> heh
22:21 < coderphive> My gf is a doctor, her watching me code is lulzy
22:22 < coderphive> Even in ruby where everything is english
22:22 < coderphive> like, nearly complete sentences
22:22 < corn266> show her python where it is complete sentences
22:22 < insecurity> how do i an if there isn't because we were looking but didn't not consider the way they werewas wasn't did and
22:22 < coderphive> Surprisingly she knows some python
22:23 < coderphive> She did research at Mayo for a number of years
22:23 < coderphive> but that kind of code is different I guess
22:23 < insecurity> my wife hates computers and technology
22:23 < dragonfleas> I had an ex that coded an app in python, first day we met I had no idea she coded, we started talking about computing and she was like "hey check out this app I developed"
22:23 < corn266> insecurity: are you havinga  stroke
22:23 < dragonfleas> let's just say we had sex 2 hours after that
22:23 < insecurity> corn266: PuTTY
22:24 < insecurity> r/thathappened
22:24 < coderphive> dragonfleas the only computer engineer I met I never hooked up with
22:24 < coderphive> It was weird
22:24 < coderphive> smart af though
22:24 < dragonfleas> coderphive, yeah girls in IT give me mega hard on's
22:24 < insecurity> i needless mansplain things to IT girls
22:24 < insecurity> sorry ladies.
22:25 < corn266> insecurity: PuTTY is a legitimate ssh tool if you don't need a lot out of your ssh tools
22:25 < dragonfleas> my buddy got blown by one of our female sysadmins (he was a tier 1 technician) when I worked at a previous job
22:25 < AnimalFarmPig> I mansplain things to other men
22:25 < coderphive> ^
22:25 < dragonfleas> i mansplain mansplaining to men
22:25 < coderphive> I mansplain to myself sometimes
22:25 < coderphive> because I assume I'm stupid too
22:25 < Hatter> I use MobaXterm
22:26 < dragonfleas> Anybody heard about Fallout 76?
22:26 < insecurity> U GUS EVR NMAP LOL
22:26 < dragonfleas> apparently it's going to have online play
22:26 < insecurity> there was a video
22:27 < SpeakerToMeat> ssd for servers... kingston vs samsung?
22:28 < poquito> FALLOUT AUSTRAILIA
22:28 < Heresiarch> SpeakerToMeat: neither. Intel.
22:28 < rhqq> nah, even austarlia is not that shitty
22:28 < corn266> dragonfleas so they rebuilt their engine for it? I assumed their Fallout 3 and 4 couldn't support multiplayer due to the shitty nature of their engien
22:28 < dragonfleas> corn266, um, no it's running on the FO4 engine
22:28 < Hatter> dragonfleas: when is it out
22:29 < corn266> weird, okay then
22:29 < JFDkthx> dragonfleas: haha fo4 engine
22:29 < JFDkthx> you mean
22:29 < JFDkthx> the fo3 engine
22:30 < JFDkthx> hahaha
22:30 < JFDkthx> cries
22:31 < Hatter> what's so funny
22:31 < R-TypeEman> "creation" engine is just lipstick on the pig that is gamebryo
22:32 < corn266> later y'all
22:33 < SpeakerToMeat> Heresiarch: And if you were forced to one of those two?
22:34 < Heresiarch> SpeakerToMeat: I'd find whatever I could that had a max warranty.
22:35 < SpeakerToMeat> Nod
22:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> fo4 engine sux
22:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> as much as DomLS3
22:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> and he really sux
22:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> (thanks for the good luck today though <3 )
22:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> no call btw -.-
22:38 < Jekotia> McDonaldsWiFi: The probably is likely your WiFi. You should upgrade to something people actually like. McDonalds' sucks
22:38 < Jekotia> *The problem
22:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> :(
22:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> brb gonna go cry
22:40 < coderphive> I just want Red Dead Redemption 2
22:41 < insecurity> ^
22:42 < Jekotia> I want Rockstar to start caring about PC
22:42 < rhqq> i would like to have TIME to play all these games -.-
22:42 < khelpw> I just want power stone 2
22:42 < insecurity> agreed rhqq (im a dad)
22:42 < asimon> This fucking wireless projection issue is going to drive me insane
22:43 < khelpw> Or need for speed underground 2 remastered
22:43 < coderphive> I'm a dog dad
22:43 < asimon> Anyone else have one of these Dell WR517 modules?
22:43 < asimon> They're pretty neat and work well but I have a couple computers that refuse to connect no matter what I do
22:44 < khelpw> I mean, between my girlfriend and I we have 7 reptiles. If anything I don't play games as much anymore because my time is split between many hobbies
22:44 < Jekotia> asimon: Threaten to dissolve their precious copper
22:44 < coderphive> khelpw do you walk your reptiles with a cute little harness?
22:44 < asimon> I contacted Dell support and they sent a tech out with a replacement mobo and hard drive. That's not an acceptable solution if there are no other issues with the computer...
22:44 < coderphive> khelpw if not you should do that
22:44 < coderphive> I'd upvote it on youtube
22:44 < khelpw> Nope, I have one for my bearded dragon but he's evidently agoraphobic lol
22:45 < coderphive> typical drama king
22:45 < khelpw> I used to take a couple of the bigger snakes outside for a slither in the grass, but my current place uses pesticides etc, so that's not possible unfortunately
22:46 < coderphive> woof
22:46 < coderphive> What if they slither away?
22:46 < Jekotia> ^
22:46 < khelpw> I always kept close to them, wasn't really much of a concern. They're capable of moving pretty quick when they want to, but not for very long
22:47 < Jekotia> Taking your snake out seems quite problematic
22:47 < Jekotia> Ah
22:47 < coderphive> Yeah, that's illegal in most cities afaik
22:47 < khelpw> And they never really tried. They mostly just hung out on me and explored a bit.
22:47 < coderphive> Are they constrictors?
22:48 < khelpw> The species I keep are legal almost everywhere. NYC is just about the only place that banned them
22:48 < coderphive> I was making a joke
22:48 < khelpw> Yeah, the big guys are. A boa and a python.
22:48 < coderphive> My school had a boa that was pretty cool
22:48 < coderphive> Apparently he bit some girl
22:48 <+ihre> rhqq: you around?
22:48 < coderphive> He didn't even have teeth so I'm not sure why it mattered
22:49 < khelpw> We keep a couple of western hognose snakes too, those are rear fanged venomous but it doesn't affect humans much.
22:49 < khelpw> Boas do have teeth, just not fangs or venom.
22:49 < coderphive> oh, well that's beyond me
22:49 < rhqq> ihre: sup
22:49 < coderphive> he was pretty chill
22:49 < khelpw> But getting bit by one hurts way less than getting scratched by a cat or bit by a puppy, let alone a dog.
22:50 < coderphive> interesting
22:50 < khelpw> Boas in general are. Mines a bit too inquisitive for his own good sometimes, but he's usually pretty chill
22:50 <+ihre> rhqq: cant figure something out with jenkins (withCredentials to an env var and then catting that var to a file), mind if i pm u about it?
22:50 < coderphive> Yeah this one knew how to get out of his cage way too easily
22:51 < rhqq> go ahead
22:51 <+ihre> cool, thanks
22:51 < rhqq> but i dont promise i'll be any helpful :P
22:51 < khelpw> Needs a better cage then lol. Snakes in general are notorious escape artists. I've got big, 6x3 foot custom enclosures for mine
22:51 < coderphive> oh wow
22:51 < coderphive> I don't think I'm much of a snake person. My dog is chill.
22:52 < coderphive> She farts sometimes but w/e
22:52 < Jekotia> khelpw: That sounds pretty big... Until I realise I can't comfortably stand in it xD I'm 6'4"
22:53 < khelpw> Yeah, my boa is about 7 feet long right now. They spend most of their time curled up in a hide though.
22:53 < Jekotia> Damn cowards
22:53 < Jekotia> Spending so much time in hides
22:53 < Jekotia> FIGHT ME DANGER NOODLE!
22:54 < coderphive> you won't say it to his face
22:54 < Jekotia> Sure I will. Your snake wouldn't comprehend a word of it.
22:54 < coderphive> It will sense you're a weak threat and eat you
22:54 < coderphive> fact
22:55 < Jekotia> I'm used to snakes, friends have them. Bring it.
22:55 < coderphive> Then you'll be snake_poop.py
22:58 < khelpw> Yeah but I bet you wouldn't boop the snoot.
22:59 < MillerBoss> https://www.thurrott.com/cloud/160275/google-releases-chrome-67-desktop
22:59 < Jekotia> I would tap the snoot. I feel like booping it would be too forceful for something with such a small head. I wouldn't want it to think it's being attacked
22:59 < khelpw> Depending on the snake you'll get one of two reactions. Either "omg wtf was that?! Run away!!" or just an immediate chomp.
23:00 < McDonaldsWiFi> Jekotia: wtf did i just read
23:00 < MillerBoss> PWA info at that link
23:00 < Jekotia> McDonaldsWiFi: IDK, I'm not you
23:01 < McDonaldsWiFi> huehuehuehue
23:01 < McDonaldsWiFi> JFDkthx: you still here
23:01 < McDonaldsWiFi> p boi
23:01 < MillerBoss> https://forekast.com/
23:02 < MillerBoss> Calendar of the Internet
23:02 < Jekotia> Boo. National doughnut day is the same day as regular doughnut day at work :(
23:03 < MillerBoss> Ocean's 8 eh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFWF9dU5Zc0&feature=youtu.be Looks better than the last Ghost Busters.
23:04 < MillerBoss> Sandra Bullock :O
23:04 < asimon> cya nerds
23:11 < McDonaldsWiFi> whelp fellas
23:11 < McDonaldsWiFi> bout that time, have  good one
23:12 < AnimalFarmPig> woot. Just confirmed with new boss that I will be taking a two week vacation in September. Gonna fly to Hungary, leave the daughter with grandma, and take wife and my first vacation alone together in years.
23:12 < JFDkthx> McDonaldsWiFi: yeah
23:12 < JFDkthx> im here
23:12 < JFDkthx> im patching tonight
23:12 < JFDkthx> oh
23:12 < JFDkthx> he left
23:12 < McDonaldsWiFi> JFDkthx: where has richard been
23:12 < JFDkthx> what a but
23:12 < JFDkthx> working
23:12 < McDonaldsWiFi> has he even stopped in in a while?
23:12 < JFDkthx> living his above age 30 life
23:12 < JFDkthx> nah
23:12 < JFDkthx> i talk to him occasionally
23:12 < McDonaldsWiFi> I feel like I might not been gone as long as him LOL
23:12 < McDonaldsWiFi> I miss the PUBG days :(
23:12 < JFDkthx> about the same time really.
23:12 < McDonaldsWiFi> I'm sad now
23:13 < xamithan> How do I devops.  Do I have to learn the C++?
23:13 < JFDkthx> is okay
23:13 < McDonaldsWiFi> let's all play WoW classic when it comes out
23:13 < McDonaldsWiFi> huehuehue
23:13 < JFDkthx> xamithan: no you learn ruby
23:13 < AnimalFarmPig> I can't wait to visit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hortobágy_National_Park
23:13 < McDonaldsWiFi> JFDkthx: ++
23:13 < McDonaldsWiFi> python too lol
23:13 < McDonaldsWiFi> maybe a lil c#
23:14 < Hunterkll> what the fuck
23:14 < Hunterkll> i can't boot windows insatller on this system
23:14 < Hunterkll> what the fuck\
23:14 < McDonaldsWiFi> okay time for home
23:14 < McDonaldsWiFi> later haters
23:14 < JFDkthx> bai
23:14 < dragonfleas> when does WoW classic release?
23:15 < dragonfleas> I'm stinky and don't know
23:15 < xamithan> I want pantheon to hurry up and finish dev
23:15 < JFDkthx> its alongside wfa aint it
23:15 < JFDkthx> so
23:15 < JFDkthx> august september i think
23:15 < JFDkthx> A-KO:
23:16 < Hatter> but when does fallout come out
23:16 < JFDkthx> if it's on the same shitty engine they have been using for the last 10 years
23:16 < JFDkthx> who gives a fuck
23:16 < Hatter> woaaaah you do NOT speak to me that way
23:16 < JFDkthx> ur dum
23:16 < JFDkthx> you literally cannot stop me
23:16 < Hunterkll> what the FUCK
23:17 < xamithan> Please make tropico 6 be release JFDkthx
23:17 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/FbFu5k9.png
23:17 < Hunterkll> please advice
23:17 < JFDkthx> xamithan: why not play anno instead
23:18 < xamithan> Because I'd have to use origin and it has insane DRM and is ubisoft
23:18 < xe0n> morning
23:19 < JFDkthx> Hunterkll: did ur os sd card fail
23:19 < Tzunamii> Hunterkll: A number of people have had issues with the 1803 "update". Some have had to upgrade their BIOS to get rid of such issues. Specifically with SSDs (yes, non-Intel as well)
23:20 < Hunterkll> ..........
23:20 < Hunterkll> Tzunamii, I would hope by virtue of the fact that i'm using an IPMI IPkvm window there that you'd realize that this isn't a windows 10 system
23:21 < Hunterkll> and, for what it's worth, i'm on build 17677 - far past 1803
23:21 < Hunterkll> ;)
23:21 < Tzunamii> You're welcome and good luck
23:21 < DomLS3> don't have to worry about updating BIOS if you don't update Windows ;)
23:22 < Hunterkll> lol
23:22 < Hunterkll> Tzunamii, i'm trying to /install/ server 2016
23:22 < DomLS3> #win7forlyfe
23:22 < Tzunamii> don't have to worry about updating BIOS if you don't run Windows
23:22 < DomLS3> pff
23:22 < DomLS3> Windows > Linux
23:22 < Tzunamii> Hunterkll: oh man, well... as I said, good luck :)
23:22 < nurdie> this again
23:22 < Tzunamii> hahaha
23:24 < nurdie> DomLS3: That's akin to saying iPhone > Android. It just doesn't feel right. Feels dirty and nasty, like sweaty sex with your grandma or something
23:24 < DomLS3> nurdie: But Android > iPhone
23:25 < Tzunamii> nurdie: Nasty comparison, but you aren't wrong
23:29 < SynMonger> gives a new meaning to the phrase, "grandma makes the best cream pies"
23:32 < DomLS3> https://www.wwe.com/f/styles/og_image/public/rd-talent/Bio/Mae_Young_Bio.jpg
23:33 < DomLS3> imagine her gettin it
23:53 < rpgio> SICK
23:53 < rpgio> VDV1128
23:57 < Hunterkll> what the fuck
23:57 < Hunterkll> enabling the TPM on this board causes windows to be unable to boot
23:57 < rpgio> wait that's not quite what I meant
23:58 < Jekotia> Hunterkll: I don't think you can do TPM after-the-fact usually
23:58 < Hunterkll> ..... yes you can...
23:59 < Hunterkll> you can do whatever you want to the TPM whenever you want
23:59 < Jekotia> Oh, right, windows added background encryption and stopped sucking
23:59 < Hunterkll> .... what the fuck are you talking about
23:59 < Hunterkll> this has absolutely nothing to do with encryption at all
23:59 < Jekotia> Ah. My experience with TPM is for bitlocker
23:59 < JFDkthx> Hunterkll: is it a uefi secureboot thing?
23:59 < Hunterkll> no UEFI
23:59 < Hunterkll> BIOS only
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