--- Log opened Wed Jun 06 00:00:46 2018
00:00 < joelazot> should I get a cert at 15?
00:01 < corn266> yes I found my midnight motorcycle riding music again
00:01 < corn266> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpDn4-Na5co
00:01 <+layer-eight> * corn266 →  YouTube → Lazerhawk ~ Redline Full Album → ⚘ 5,670,573 ↑ 48,261 ↓ 878 ✍ 3,055
00:01 < Sousapro> joelazot: I would if you could
00:01 < Sousapro> joelazot: no reason to not start piling on now if possible
00:02 < joelazot> maybe a CCENT?
00:02 < joelazot> CCNA
00:02 < joelazot> ?
00:02 < Sousapro> see if there's anything your school will pay for
00:02 < Sousapro> I wouldn't stress too hard unless you're planning to skip college
00:02 < joelazot> I could get my employer to pay most of it probably
00:03 < joelazot> i migt have to but i plan to go to a polytech (like university but hands on)
00:03 < joelazot> and im not gonna get university enterance so a cert might help me get in
00:10 < Sousapro> Anyone know of any network engineers in Orlando that want a new gig?
00:13 < admiralspark> Sousapro: just post it on le reddits?
00:13 < admiralspark> /r/sysadminjobs or w/e it is now
00:13 < joelazot> yeah
00:18 < MillerBoss> OK kids. When I have a device connecting to Wi-Fi to say SSID named 10 and get vlan 10 and subnet 10.10.10.0/24 and recieve an IP address in that subnet from DHCP server. But then remove that network from the device and connect to SSID 20 10.20.20.0/24 but no IP address given and your typical 169.254.0.0 address. What is being saved within the network to say no way I can't help you because I see your MAC
00:18 < MillerBoss> address was on subnet "10" but you want to get an IP from subnet "20". No bueno.
00:19 < mal_will> I know a lot of people talk shit on certs, but they're what get me my jobs
00:19 < mal_will> I wish I'd started sooner, and pushed myself farther, sooner
00:19 < MillerBoss> 1st taker gets top spot on trollme.xyz
00:20 < MillerBoss> Actually after 10 minutes it works. Is this ARP cache?
00:30 < admiralspark> meh
00:30 < admiralspark> I've gotten zero jobs from certs
00:31 < admiralspark> it's all about making yourself valuable to a company. Sometimes that takes certs. Sometimes skills. Sometimes kissing ass/networking
00:34 < joelazot> networking is one of the reasons im hopefully gonna go to college
00:38 < xe0n> certs shouldn't be something you use to try and land jobs, sure it can help, but they're something you should get while you're working with the technology, and covered by the company you're working for. ot
00:52 <@killdash9> the cert doesn't get you the job but they sure as fuck can help open doors
00:52 < coderphive> Probably more so in the beginning
00:52 < admiralspark> certs get you through HR
00:52 < admiralspark> interview skills and who you know gets you jobs
00:53 <@killdash9> no, that still holds true late into the career if you're getting higher level certs along the way
00:53 < admiralspark> There's companies who are willing to assist with that (pay/training/etc)?
00:53 < xe0n> sure
00:53 < admiralspark> Are they hiring? :P
00:53 <@killdash9> but no cert in the world will make you personable in an interview
00:54 <@killdash9> admiralspark: I've had different cert paid for by several companies I've worked for. The big one was cheating though
00:54 < coderphive> That's true
00:54 < coderphive> I don't have any certs, not sure it'd help either tbh
00:54 < admiralspark> idk killdash9 I think Cisco has a CCSSA - Cisco Certified Slimy Salesman Associate
00:54 < coderphive> I've never had a problem with jobs though
00:54 < xe0n> admiralspark: i can get any cert paid for, as long as i pass and present the receipt haha
00:54 < admiralspark> hahaha
00:55 < xe0n> i go sit them in my own time, and then do a cash expense, pretty straight forward
00:55 < admiralspark> I had that back in the day, but I dumped that company for a pay raise and a job in a lucrative niche field
00:55 < admiralspark> so
00:55 <@killdash9> some companies make you promise to pay them back if you leave within 6 months. I don't know how enforceable that is, but they try
00:55 < admiralspark> no training budget but it's easy enough/pays enough I don't mind doing them myself
00:56 <@killdash9> speaking of, my RHCA went 'non current' a few months ago. I can still claim it but it's not up-to-date
00:56 < coderphive> killdash9, most people do that with Cisco certs
00:56 < coderphive> like if you've gotten it once there's really no reason to go back and get it
00:57 <@killdash9> it's like a college degree. You don't go back and earn the same one again 10 years later
00:57 < xe0n> yeah my wg is about to expire
00:57 < admiralspark> coderphive: Cisco can revoke your cert and put a mark on your profile if you claim it and it hasn't been renewed. Also, the value of a cisco cert is helping the company get Cisco Gold ;)
00:58 < coderphive> admiralspark, sometimes
00:58 < rpifan> hi
00:58 < coderphive> admiralspark, A lot of companies only require certain groups get those certs
00:58 < admiralspark> right...like, your network guys?
00:58 < xe0n> yo rpifan
00:58 < xe0n> sup
00:58 < coderphive> admiralspark, ... not what I mean
00:58 < admiralspark> or you mean the sales ones
00:58 < admiralspark> nvm
00:58 < rpifan> not ready for roo
00:58 < rpifan> but i bought
00:59 < rpifan> mixers
00:59 <@cryptic1> getting lots of certs is a never ending treadmill
00:59 < admiralspark> rpifan getting wastedddd
00:59 < coderphive> If you're big enough to get deals from Cisco based on certified people you'll have provisioning, engineering 1, 2, 3, helpdesk, auditing/security
00:59 < admiralspark> meh, we had like three of us with the certs at my last company, and we sold direct
00:59 < admiralspark> only like 2-3 apiece
00:59 < admiralspark> certs, I mean
01:00 < coderphive> I was never Cisco certified and it didn't matter to them
01:00 < admiralspark> and we were all networking except one guy got the lonely sales cert
01:00 < admiralspark> yeah
01:00 < admiralspark> to be clear
01:00 < admiralspark> I wasn't either, and I was the lead network engineer, but two of my teammates and our radio guy had them
01:01 < admiralspark> heh. "lead network engineer". Inflated titles.
01:01 < admiralspark> anyway
01:01 < admiralspark> this is a boring topic
01:01 < admiralspark> WHO ELSE IS MOVING TO GITLAB
01:02 < admiralspark> https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/8oud82/gitlab_ultimate_and_gold_now_free_for_education/
01:02 <+layer-eight> * admiralspark →  GitLab Ultimate and Gold now free for education and open source : linux
01:02  * rpifan pours mixer into plastic bottle
01:02 < agent_white> "In fact, I'll take real toilet paper over
01:02 < agent_white> standards any day, because at least that way I won't have splinters
01:03 < agent_white> and ink up my arse." - Linus, please don't change.
01:03 < pcspkr> admiralspark: I'd rather embrace it: https://github.com/martenbjork/github-xp
01:03 <+layer-eight> * pcspkr →  GitHub → martenbjork → github-xp → Give Github some XP flare 🔥 → @ ~ 32 minutes ago → ✡ 238 → Forks: 8 → ☹ 3
01:04 < admiralspark> jesus christ pcspkr
01:08 < coderphive> lmao
01:09 < coderphive> Yall are laughing but those cofounders are multi millionaires now
01:09 < coderphive> all for a stupid git website
01:09 < pcspkr> they actually created something valuable
01:10 < rpifan> so who has done magic mushrooms
01:10 < coderphive> what are you, five?
01:11 < coderphive> just kidding
01:11 < admiralspark> coderphive: nah, that's the American Dream, selling your business to Microsoft, isn't it?
01:11 < coderphive> I'll sell my start up to satya
01:11 < admiralspark> rpifan: I have. Was unimpressed. Didn't seem to be affected by it very much. Buddy was a bit more than I
01:12 < rpifan> im thinking of eatting just one shroom
01:12 < rpifan> or two
01:12 < coderphive> take risks my guy
01:12 < admiralspark> heh. rpifan why though?
01:12 < coderphive> eat like four
01:12 < agent_white> Ead the whole bag homie
01:12 < coderphive> ^
01:12 < agent_white> s/Ead/Eat/
01:12 <+layer-eight> [SED agent_white] Eat the whole bag homie
01:12 < rpifan> never
01:12 < rpifan> just one or two is enough
01:12 < rpifan> just want the threshold ammount
01:13 < coderphive> That's what I'm saying
01:13 < admiralspark> start with one, wait 20 minutes
01:13 < coderphive> five is the perfect number
01:13 < admiralspark> it doesn't hit like blow
01:13 < admiralspark> takes time
01:13 < agent_white> The worst is when you don't take enough, and you just end up with a tummy ache and some weird mild buzz.
01:13 < admiralspark> isn't weed cheaper now?
01:13 < coderphive> They don't call him agent_white for nothing
01:13 < agent_white> \o
01:14 < Hunterkll> lol
01:14 < agent_white> I over-experimented in highschool to prep for college ;)
01:14 < Hunterkll> #reddit-sysadmin - drug experts of cohice
01:14 < Hunterkll> #reddit-sysadmin - drug experts of choice
01:14 < coderphive> #reddit-sysadmin - "eat the whole bag homie"
01:14 < admiralspark> I mean, how else will sysads deal with no budgets and stupid due dates Hunterkll
01:14 < Hunterkll> #reddit-sysadmin - https://www.hugebuttholes.com
01:14 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Home of #reddit-sysadmin
01:14 < Hunterkll> :P
01:14 < admiralspark> hahahah!
01:14 < admiralspark> ahh shit that's awesome
01:15 < Hunterkll> I learned all i know about web development from geocities
01:15 < Hunterkll> not a single lick of CSS in that site
01:15 < coderphive> theworldsucks.com
01:15 < admiralspark> and felda?
01:15 < Hunterkll> and look
01:15 < Hunterkll> IN TRUE GEOCITIES FASHION
01:15 < Hunterkll> it has a BROKEN hit counter at the bottom
01:15  * rpifan reads erowid
01:16 < coderphive> i'm just saying
01:16 < coderphive> mine has a tile gif
01:17 < admiralspark> hey
01:17 < admiralspark> anyone here a PDQ Deploy user?
01:17 < admiralspark> do I HAVE to open a dozen ports in the host firewalls just to push stuff to workstations?
01:17 < rpifan> hmm
01:17 < rpifan> idk seems like shrooms like heavy
01:17 < rpifan> like relaly deep into the earth
01:17 < rpifan> i wanan party
01:18 < rpifan> i really want mdma
01:18 < rpifan> but its so risky to get pure shit
01:18 < coderphive> isn't tuesday?
01:18 < admiralspark> rpifan: go hard. Get blow
01:18 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, i would imagine you'd at least need SMB and RPC
01:18 < Hunterkll> so 135, high RPC ports, 445
01:18 < Hunterkll> minimum
01:18 < Hunterkll> to get remote push shit to work
01:18 < admiralspark> Hunterkll: check this: https://support.pdq.com/knowledge-base/1023
01:18 < Hunterkll> without an agent
01:18 <+layer-eight> * admiralspark →  Windows Firewall Ports and Exceptions - PDQ.com
01:18 < rpifan> why blow
01:19 < admiralspark> each of the different "file and print sharing" service rules has to be activated and configured
01:19 < Hunterkll> that's bog standard
01:19 < admiralspark> I'm trying to reduce attack surface, not open it up completely to a workstation that will have hundreds of EXE's on it at a time
01:19 < Hunterkll> that allows access to the admin shares & shit that you need
01:19 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, you do need to be authenticated
01:20 < admiralspark> ugh
01:20 < admiralspark> Hmm
01:20 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, and they are telling you to limit it by IP ranges
01:20 < Hunterkll> so
01:20 < Hunterkll> there is that...
01:20 < rpifan> maybe ghb
01:20 < rpifan> but then u cant drink
01:20 < Hunterkll> file & print sharing also includes inbound ICMP admiralspark
01:20 < Hunterkll> for echo
01:20 < admiralspark> right. > not open it up completely to a workstation that will have hundreds of EXE's on it at a time
01:20 < Hunterkll> remote admin includes 135 and 445
01:20 < admiralspark> I have the ICMP rules for other stuff
01:20 < Hunterkll> RPC mapper & SMB
01:20 < coderphive> wait
01:20 < admiralspark> but they need 137, 138, 139, etc
01:20 < coderphive> people take ghb for fun?
01:20 < Hunterkll> yes
01:20 < Hunterkll> yes
01:21 < coderphive> what the lawd
01:21 < admiralspark> there's people that like PCP too, why are you surprised?
01:21 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, this is bog standard stuff for remote push shit
01:21 < Hunterkll> same stuff you need for stuff like psexec to work
01:21 < admiralspark> Hunterkll: that'd be fine, in a bog. I have rules I ahve to follow :P
01:21 < admiralspark> no
01:21 < Hunterkll> i did say like
01:21 < rpifan> yea
01:21 < admiralspark> all of my everything remotePS is done through WinRM
01:21 < rpifan> also i have narcolepsy
01:21 < admiralspark> one port
01:22 < rpifan> so i could get a script for it
01:22 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, that's remote powershell, not psexec
01:22 < admiralspark> and it's encrypted at l7
01:22 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, psexec is a tool, not powershell
01:22 < admiralspark> oh, I don't use psexec :P
01:22 < Hunterkll> but yes
01:22 < admiralspark> Ansible and PSSessions baby
01:22 < Hunterkll> this is bog standard
01:22 < admiralspark> hmmmm
01:22 < Hunterkll> i'm actually surprised it doesn't want high RPC
01:22 < rpifan> its mdma or bust i guess
01:22 < admiralspark> rpifan: ask agent_white for some of his cocoa
01:22 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, just lock it down to the IPs of your PDQ servers
01:23 < Hunterkll> if you're that concerned
01:23 < coderphive> I feel like Hunterkll does drugs
01:23 < Hunterkll> we have this shit open to all our servers
01:23 < admiralspark> Hunterkll: I suppose that's my only option :P
01:23 < agent_white> admiralspark: Oh no, this stuff is a bit stiff. Agents only.
01:23 < xe0n> broken counter
01:23 < xe0n> yesss
01:23 < admiralspark> agent_white: hahaha
01:23 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, again, bog standard for doing remote management/execution on windows machines
01:24 < Hunterkll> the 138/137 stuff is used for SMB too in a capacity
01:24 < admiralspark> Again, I don't need any of this crap for my Ansible/Powershell stuff and WinRM.
01:24 < Hunterkll> 135 is RPC port mapper for doing ... remote procedure calls
01:24 < Hunterkll> and this isn't using powershell
01:24 < admiralspark> yes
01:24 < coderphive> kek, I like how I'm on hugebuttholes.com twice
01:24 < Hunterkll> this is using other functionality
01:24 < admiralspark> I know
01:24 < admiralspark> that's my point
01:24 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, I need these same ports open to remotely push the SCCM agent
01:24 < Hunterkll> and that's a microsoft product
01:24 < coderphive> I feel like that's an honor in and of itself
01:24 < admiralspark> hmm
01:24 < Hunterkll> actually i need more
01:24 < Hunterkll> but that's besides the point
01:24 < Hunterkll> my SCCM server has huge access to the network
01:24 < Hunterkll> because it's a ... central management server
01:24 < Hunterkll> *gasp*
01:25 < Hunterkll> same with SCOM for monitoring
01:25 < admiralspark> and you lock down your firewalls company-wide with GPO?
01:25 < Hunterkll> I have system level access from those boxes to everything in the company almost
01:25 < Hunterkll> :)
01:25 < xe0n> thong thong thong thong
01:25 < admiralspark> to only allow the SCCM server?
01:25 < Hunterkll> sure, on the network
01:25 < Hunterkll> not on the machine
01:25 < DOMF> I just found something amazing
01:25 < Hunterkll> though we don't do client pushes to workstations
01:25 < Hunterkll> but still
01:25 < Hunterkll> we do for servers
01:25 < Hunterkll> same for SCOM agent push
01:25 < admiralspark> okay so, you DONT use host-based firewalls?
01:25 < Hunterkll> eheheheheheh
01:25 < DOMF> so, we gave this indian development team access to a server with $USER where $USER has full sudo access
01:25 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, no, not really
01:25 < DOMF> I log in as $USER, and notice the terminal's different
01:25 < admiralspark> because, I have to. And that's my point. I have to make sure every single damn workstation has modifications to it's host-based fw for this
01:26 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, actually, we just recently opened up psremoting
01:26 < DOMF> I run whoami, and it says I'm root
01:26 < coderphive> this sounds fun
01:26 < Hunterkll> lol
01:26 < DOMF> even though I just logged in as $USER
01:26 < Hunterkll> we had those before we had psremoting
01:26 < Hunterkll> :P
01:26 < admiralspark> lol
01:26 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, and we're probably held to a much higher standard than you
01:26 < Hunterkll> :3
01:26 < DOMF> I run id, and it says my uid is 1001 but my euid is 0
01:26 < rpifan> sigh
01:26 < rpifan> amazon
01:26 < rpifan> fuckk
01:26 < rpifan> amazon
01:26 < admiralspark> Hunterkll: NERC-CIP?
01:26 < coderphive> that's weird
01:26 < DOMF> Anyone wanna take a guess as to what caused this?
01:26 < DOMF> because it's kind of fucking hilarious
01:27 < admiralspark> DOMF: ALL ALL w/ visudo?
01:27 < DOMF> (I found the cause in the history)
01:27 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, Department of Defense, DISA, NSA, etc
01:27 < Hunterkll> :)
01:27 < admiralspark> Hunterkll: how on earth do you pass compliance?
01:27 < coderphive> chsh sudo /bin/sh
01:27 < admiralspark> "business justification" exemptions?
01:27 < DOMF> admiralspark, no, and I was like "Why did they set this user to run everything as root when they already had full sudoers access"
01:27 < Hunterkll> by implementing NSA provided guidance
01:27 < DOMF> admiralspark, I didn't run sudo whoami, just whoami
01:27 < admiralspark> IS that publicly available? :P Hunterkll
01:27 < admiralspark> DOMF: hahahah
01:27 < Hunterkll> actually, some of it is
01:27 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, one of the requirements /is/ a host based firewalling
01:27 < coderphive> DOMF, sudo chsh /bin/sh
01:28 < DOMF> nope
01:28 < Hunterkll> but that can be waived over for non-agency connected networks
01:28 < Hunterkll> like our internal corporate
01:28 < DOMF> that wouldn't make it run as root
01:28 < Hunterkll> and we have other products taht fill some gaps
01:28 < DOMF> you're closer though
01:28 < Hunterkll> like carbon black, digital guardian, fireeye HX, etc
01:28 < admiralspark> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
01:28 < coderphive> some sort of su then
01:28 < admiralspark> hmmm
01:28 < DOMF> negative
01:28 < coderphive> in bashrc
01:29 < DOMF> far, far worse
01:29 < admiralspark> well Hunterkll I'll see if I can write out enough business justification for it :P
01:29 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, but technically, no, windows firewall is off
01:29 < Hunterkll> off, not disabled
01:29 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, well, do you want to manage/patch your shit or not?
01:29 < coderphive> did they actually modify sudoers?
01:29 < DOMF> there's no way anyone is ever going to guess this
01:29 < Hunterkll> it's a security justification
01:29 < DOMF> chmod -R 7777 /bin/
01:29 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, and you're using *bog standard windows management functions*
01:29 < coderphive> :o
01:29 < admiralspark> It's not my job to patch shit ;)
01:29 < coderphive> wow
01:29 < DOMF> is this not the most amazing thing you've ever seen
01:29 < admiralspark> it's my job to tell people to patch their shit
01:29 < DOMF> they not only opened up the permissions on /bin/
01:29 < DOMF> they changed the suid
01:30 < rpifan> oh MDMA
01:30 < coderphive> That's amazing
01:30 < xe0n> bog lol
01:30 < DOMF> I'm going to tell my grandchildren about this one
01:30 < coderphive> lmao
01:30 < admiralspark> bog standard xe0n
01:30 < coderphive> like
01:30 < coderphive> why
01:30 < xe0n> bog loll
01:30 < coderphive> The education system over there must be bad
01:30 < DOMF> they were trying to change the bin/ in their current dir
01:31 < admiralspark> ohhh
01:31 < DOMF> and they are fucking idiots
01:31 < admiralspark> ran it with sudo
01:31 < admiralspark> context
01:31 < admiralspark> ahahah
01:31 < admiralspark> shit
01:31 < DOMF> they did that as root
01:31 < coderphive> heh wow
01:31 < coderphive> sick
01:31 < DOMF> that was from root's .bash_history
01:31 < coderphive> still no reason to 777
01:31 < DOMF> they're idiots
01:31 < coderphive> man
01:31 < DOMF> I mean
01:31 < DOMF> I can see 777
01:31 < DOMF> (because they're idiots)
01:31 < DOMF> but 7777 ?
01:32 < coderphive> that's pretty amazing
01:33 < coderphive> I doubt they even realized what the SUID modifier is
01:33 < DOMF> I guarantee they do not
01:35 <+NinjaStyle> Why does Georgia have so many waffle houses
01:36 < rpifan> they invente dit
01:36 <+NinjaStyle> There's some kind of waffle surplus out here
01:36 < JollyRgrs> isn't ATL home of?
01:36 < rpifan> it starited in atlatna
01:36 < rpifan> yes
01:37 <@killdash9> don't you dare bad mouth the Waffle House
01:37 <+NinjaStyle> There are like 10 in this town
01:37 < rpifan> i love waho
01:37 < rpifan> huge fafn
01:37  * killdash9 actually has a work shirt from Waffle House and name badge to go with it
01:37 < rpifan> i worked at waho for 3 days
01:38 <@killdash9> never worked at one. Just a fan and saw the shirt on the rack at Salvation Army
01:39 < xe0n> 3 days loll
01:39 <@cryptic1> killdash shows up at random locations walks into the back and just starts eating
01:39 < JollyRgrs> lol
01:39 < JollyRgrs> pecan waffles
01:39 < JollyRgrs> mmmmmmm
01:40 <@cryptic1> what about the maple?
01:40 < rpifan> whats E&J
01:40 < JollyRgrs> eeenut butter and jelly?
01:42 < rpifan> idk
01:44 < rpifan> amazon is giving me the run away
01:44 < rpifan> how can a company be so shitty
01:46 < LilLinux> Anyone got any good alternatives to vnc for centos?
01:48 < rpifan> vnd
01:49 < Hunterkll> LilLinux, XRDP?
01:50 < LilLinux> I used that a while go in a homelab and it worked well enough, Ill revisit it now
01:50 < LilLinux> How does it compare to x2go?
01:50 < LilLinux> I've seen that on some forums
01:51 < Hunterkll> uh?
01:51 < Hunterkll> i mean.. works just as good?
01:51 < Hunterkll> x2go needs a special client and xrdp can just use the microsoft rdp client in windows?
02:03 <+NinjaStyle> Ay
02:03 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, 11.3.1 kernel exploits dropped. https://bugs.chromium.org/p/project-zero/issues/detail?id=1558
02:03 < abakedapplepie> neat
02:03 < abakedapplepie> shouldnt be too long
02:04 < Hunterkll> 11.3.1 still being signed right now apparently
02:04 < Hunterkll> got blobs for both devices though in case i wanna try ios 12 some time
02:04 < Hunterkll> lol
02:05 < xe0n> blobs, bog
02:12 < misspwn> oh im dumb
02:13 < misspwn> i've been sitting here wondering why the channel was empty. i joined #reddit-sysadmin
02:13 < misspwn> er just one D
02:14 < Hunterkll> lol
02:15 < rpifan> sigh would someone write a chat bot
02:15 < rpifan> to fight amazon
02:15 < Hunterkll> what the fuck
02:15 < Hunterkll> two new users to my BBS in less than 24 hours
02:16 < Hunterkll> this shit is hoppin'
02:16 < Hunterkll> damn, flying
02:16 < Hunterkll> 16800 bps connection
02:17 < genr8__> AOL was faster
02:17 < Hunterkll> lol
02:17 < Hunterkll> guy's editing his profile
02:17 < Hunterkll> just set his computer type as IBM-PC
02:17 < misspwn> bbs? what are we 100?
02:17 < Hunterkll> the guy with the TI-99/4a is more fun
02:17 < Hunterkll> he's reading the help now
02:17 < Hunterkll> lol
02:17 < nohusuro> Hunterkll: stop spying on him :P
02:17 < nohusuro> rude
02:17 < Hunterkll> nohusuro, i didn't know you were vietnamese
02:18  * nohusuro has no idea what that's in reference to
02:18 < misspwn> to be fair, we had set up BBS on a raspberry pi a while back. it was okay
02:18 < Hunterkll> misspwn, this is an IBM PS/2 Model 70 (blue lightning) - dial in only
02:18 < Hunterkll> 30MB HDD, 8MB ram
02:18 < misspwn> good lawd
02:18 < Hunterkll> 4MB of which is overclocked ram
02:18 < nohusuro> If they're using an IBM, it's just CERN coding their time machine.
02:18 < misspwn> is it "just because you can?"
02:18 < Hunterkll> since the blue lightning, the 486 33mhz version instead of the 386 33mhz version, needs 80ns ram
02:19 < Hunterkll> and the rest of the ram i had was from a non-blue lightning 70, which used 85ns ram
02:19 < Hunterkll> so i solder jumpered the shit and used tape to block off some of the MPD lines to fool it into running the ram at 80ns
02:19 < Hunterkll> nohusuro, the 'reference' is the guy's name who's dialed in - https://i.imgur.com/R0QqUqv.jpg
02:19 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 1,113,652 bytes
02:19 < Hunterkll> Nguyen
02:19 < Hunterkll> lol
02:21 < LemWork> http://thedevilspanties.com/comics/20180528.png <--- SFW and very funny.
02:21 <+layer-eight> * LemWork →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 68,992 bytes
02:22 < misspwn> clean up your desk young man
02:22 < Hunterkll> that's not my desk
02:22 < Hunterkll> that's the top of the IBM
02:22 < Hunterkll> lol
02:22 < Hunterkll> the IBM is on the desk
02:22 < Hunterkll> :o
02:23 < misspwn> so much clutter
02:24 < xe0n> you wouldn't want to see my work desk atm though
02:24 < xe0n> it's a dump
02:24 < xe0n> then*
02:24 < misspwn> why, is it covered in bottles, dust, and random garbage too?
02:24 < Hunterkll> i see no garbage
02:24 < Hunterkll> i see flavoring, ram, and ramen flavoring
02:24 < Hunterkll> and floppy disk label
02:25 < misspwn> and quite possibly a q-tip
02:25 < Hunterkll> oh, and freshwater aquarium salt behind the monitor
02:25 < nohusuro> so many pills and liquids
02:25 < Hunterkll> contact cleaning!
02:25 < nohusuro> and so much beef flavouring
02:25 < Hunterkll> no pills in this photo
02:25 < Hunterkll> lol
02:25 < Hunterkll> yes
02:25 < misspwn> beuffff
02:25 < Hunterkll> i run a bbs wtf you think i don't live off beef ramen?
02:25 < Hunterkll> lol
02:26 < nohusuro> there's one white round thing, which then made me assume all foil packaging was pills, until I looked closer
02:26 < misspwn> now imagining you opening beef seasoning packet and just dumping in mouth. go go sodium boost
02:26 < xe0n> do you have any phreak codes on your board?
02:26 < xe0n> and if i join, do i get into the elite board?
02:26 < MillerBoss> LMAO misspwn
02:26 < MillerBoss> Like the Cookie Monster with cookies yum yum yum
02:27 < misspwn> hahh
02:27 < Hunterkll> lol
02:27 < MillerBoss> Oh Hunterkll you are a character for sure.
02:27 < MillerBoss> :)
02:27 < nohusuro> y'all nasty :P
02:27 < misspwn> bruh, i will ship you a monitor
02:27 < Hunterkll> misspwn, it's like spininach for popeye
02:27 < Hunterkll> :D
02:27 < misspwn> good lawd
02:27 < Hunterkll> misspwn, LOL nah
02:27 < Hunterkll> it's old radio shack kit
02:27 < Hunterkll> all i need it for is to make sure the BBS is alive
02:27 < Hunterkll> i have better ones
02:27 < misspwn> it's crying!
02:27 < MillerBoss> Kill me now
02:27 < Hunterkll> so long as i can see HIMEM loading on boot i'm good
02:27 < Hunterkll> lol
02:28 < nohusuro> don't break your HIMEM Hunterkll
02:28 < nohusuro> that's how you get babies
02:28 < Hunterkll> -_-
02:28 < misspwn> lel
02:28 < xe0n> oh i see what you did there..
02:28 < Hunterkll> i'm... not sure it works that way...
02:28 < nohusuro> I mean, it's a good start
02:29 < misspwn> better put a change request in first
02:29 < Hunterkll> emergency change
02:29 < Hunterkll> retroactive CR
02:29 <+A-KO> so Hunterkll
02:29 <+A-KO> gonna buy the 5Ghz 28-core CPU?
02:29 <+A-KO> lol
02:29 < nohusuro> feature rollback
02:29 < Virtual-Potato> Meh the k versions are overrated
02:29 < Hunterkll> A-KO, ?
02:30 < MillerBoss> So I got some Lenova yogas. Is there something I can run to update these suckers as far as drivers go in bulk?
02:30 < nohusuro> 5GHz?!
02:30 < Virtual-Potato> I'll just stick with my trusty 8086
02:30 <+A-KO> https://www.anandtech.com/show/12893/intels-28core-5-ghz-cpu-coming-in-q4
02:30 <+layer-eight> * A-KO →  Intel’s 28-Core 5 GHz CPU: Coming in Q4
02:30 < nohusuro> is that stock speed?
02:30 < misspwn> heard those lenovo yogas are pretty neat
02:30 <+A-KO> Alongside the launch of Intel’s first 5 GHz processor, the 6-core Core i7-8086K, Intel today also showcased a 28-core single socket machine also running at 5 GHz. The system on display scored 7334 in Cinebench R15, and Gregory Bryant (SVP and GM of Intel Client Computing Group) explicitly stated that it would be coming in Q4 this year.
02:30 < Hunterkll> nohusuro, 4GHz base, 5GHz boost
02:30 < nohusuro> anything lenovo is spyware :P
02:30 < misspwn> ;o
02:30 < MillerBoss> Yeah it has been that is for sure
02:31 < Virtual-Potato> nohusuro, only the cheaper kinds. The thinkpad line isn't
02:31 < misspwn> lenovo/anything intel
02:31 <+A-KO> Hunterkll: this is a 5Ghz all-cores running full tilt
02:31 < nohusuro> yeah, anything anywhere is spywware :/
02:31 < misspwn> i love my T550 ultrabook
02:31 < MillerBoss> This may be the cheap kind though Virtual-Potato
02:31 < Hunterkll> eh
02:31 <+A-KO> 28 cores @ 5Ghz lol
02:31 < Hunterkll> A-KO, power consumption
02:31 < Virtual-Potato> you're the cheap kind, MillerBoss
02:31 < Hunterkll> A-KO, that's the real question.
02:31 <+A-KO> I mean
02:31 < Virtual-Potato> :)
02:31 <+A-KO> you've got like a 2KW PSU don't you?
02:31 <+A-KO> hahaha
02:31 < Disconsented> A-KO> Source needed, last I checked that was the turbo not the all core
02:31 < Hunterkll> nope
02:31 < MillerBoss> I am the cheap kind, yes
02:32 < Hunterkll> A-KO, 2KW psu would require me to run 220
02:32 <+A-KO> Disconsented: the link I posted
02:32 < Hunterkll> can't do it on 15A 120
02:32 < nohusuro> 2KW PSU would probably require a 15A circuit
02:32 < misspwn> hey wasn't one of you gona buy taco bell for all of us?
02:32 < Virtual-Potato> Hunterkll, false get 2 1kw PSUs
02:32 < Virtual-Potato> plug them onto separate circuits
02:32 <+A-KO> Going up from 2.8 GHz base / 3.5 GHz turbo to 5.0 GHz all-core frequency is a big step, assuming the 5.0 GHz value was not an overclock. I would fully expect that this is the point where Intel starts introducing EMIB to CPUs. (ed: FWIW, I disagree with Ian; my money is on a heavily binned 28-core XCC processor made on 14++. We've seen that Intel can do 5GHz on that process with the
02:32 <+A-KO> 8086K)
02:32 < MillerBoss> https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/pd500005
02:32 < Hunterkll> Virtual-Potato, and tie them together and watch shit blow up
02:32 < Disconsented> 'assuming the'
02:32 < Hunterkll> got it
02:32 < Hunterkll> :D
02:32 < Disconsented> so it isnt
02:32 <+A-KO>  assuming the 5.0 GHz value was not an overclock.
02:32 <+A-KO> ^
02:32 < Hunterkll> yea
02:32 < Virtual-Potato> or just plug it into a 480v main
02:32 < Hunterkll> huge chance it was A-KO
02:33 < Hunterkll> their fastest 28 core right now is that 2.8ghz base
02:33 < Disconsented> assuming is the keyword. Translation: they dont know
02:33 < Hunterkll> A-KO, I mean, my board has been demonstrated to suck down 1KW to the CPU socket without breaking a sweat
02:33 < Hunterkll> so if it'll run on current X299 boards
02:33 < Hunterkll> i probably will
02:33 < Virtual-Potato> MillerBoss, that looks meh
02:33 < Hunterkll> otherwise i'll have to wait for the next generation Rampage board
02:33 < Virtual-Potato> max of 12GB RAM... I'll pass
02:34 < MillerBoss> It works for what people are using it for in the warehouse
02:34 < MillerBoss> I got 5 of them.
02:34 < MillerBoss> So far
02:34 < Virtual-Potato> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (x64) • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz (2.59GHz) • Memory: 23.5 GiB Total (11.8 GiB Free) • Storage: 844.4 GiB / 930.1 GiB (85.7 GiB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070, NVIDIA Quadro M1000M • Uptime: 1w 1d 0h 37m 26s
02:34 < MillerBoss> Its surely not my machine silly
02:34 < Hunterkll> A-KO, My VRMs will *easily* crush 300W fanless though, so it's no big deal there
02:34 < Hunterkll> lol
02:35 < Hunterkll> at least for a stock 28 core cpu
02:35 < MillerBoss> `echo  and don't call me surely
02:35 < Nightcinder> 'plugged in, not charging'
02:35 <+layer-eight> and don't call me surely
02:35 < Nightcinder> that's usually the adapter, right?
02:35 < Nightcinder> not the laptop?
02:35 < Hunterkll> Nightcinder, how much % is the battery?
02:35 < Nightcinder> 65%
02:35 < Nightcinder> it's my xps 15
02:35 < Hunterkll> dell?
02:35 < Hunterkll> yea
02:35 < Virtual-Potato> RIP your battery
02:35 < Nightcinder> it charges just fine out of USB-C
02:36 < Hunterkll> you have an under-watt adapter probably
02:36 < Nightcinder> it's the standard 130w one they shipped with it
02:36 < Hunterkll> oh
02:36 < Hunterkll> hm
02:36 < Nightcinder> it just stopped working
02:36 < Virtual-Potato> or the underpowered adapter
02:36 < Virtual-Potato> could be both
02:36 < Hunterkll> try another adapter
02:36 < Hunterkll> *shrug*
02:36 < Nightcinder> my coworker's bringing his
02:36 < Virtual-Potato> s/adapter/laptop
02:36 <+layer-eight> [SED Virtual-Potato/Hunterkll] try another laptop
02:36 < Nightcinder> think the charger's fucked
02:37 < Hunterkll> A-KO, i like how my motherboard only supports 7 CPUs - https://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/ROG-RAMPAGE-VI-EXTREME/HelpDesk_CPU/
02:37 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  ROG RAMPAGE VI EXTREME   | Motherboards | ASUS United Kingdom
02:37 < Hunterkll> and only two are as low as i7
02:37 < Virtual-Potato> Hunterkll, I thought you meant your mobo "only" supports up to 7 CPUs
02:37 < Virtual-Potato> like a 7-socket mobo
02:37 < Hunterkll> lolwut
02:37 < Hunterkll> that'd be awsome
02:37 < Hunterkll> i know some vendors who could probably do that too
02:38 < Virtual-Potato> so many PCI lanes
02:38 < Hunterkll> but that'd be $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
02:38 < Hunterkll> Virtual-Potato, on server boards we use multiplexers anyway
02:38 < Hunterkll> you really don't think a 2011 E5 can support 12 X8 slots, do you? :P
02:38 < Virtual-Potato> tf is a multiplexer
02:38 < Hunterkll> Virtual-Potato, think of it like a network switch
02:38 < Hunterkll> PCIe slot to slot full speed, but all the pcie slots to CPU only up to what the CPU supports
02:39 < Hunterkll> think of it like, 20 computers on a gigabit connection, with a 10gbit connection to the network core
02:39 < Hunterkll> it's a pcie switch
02:39 < Virtual-Potato> so do I call Cisco for a pcie switch?
02:39 < Virtual-Potato> or arista?
02:39 < LemWork> PCIe switch?
02:39 < Hunterkll> you call whoever made your motherboard
02:39 < xe0n> call maccas
02:39 < LemWork> as in one that goes into a PCIe slot?
02:39 < Hunterkll> and it comes with it
02:39 < xe0n> drive thru
02:39 < Hunterkll> no
02:39 < Hunterkll> LemWork, as in a switch FOR pcie
02:40 < Hunterkll> like
02:40 < LemWork> right....
02:40 < Hunterkll> think of it like, 20 computers on a gigabit connection, with a 10gbit connection to the network core
02:40 < Hunterkll> all computers can talk to each other at 1gbit max 24/7
02:40 < Hunterkll> but all 20 can only get a max of 10gbit to the rest of the network
02:40 < Hunterkll> the rest of the network being hte CPU
02:40 < Virtual-Potato> Hunterkll, so this thing https://www.onestopsystems.com/switches
02:40 <+layer-eight> * Virtual-Potato →  Switches | One Stop Systems
02:40 < Hunterkll> .... no
02:40 < Hunterkll> ya'll are fucking idiots
02:41 < Hunterkll> actually yes, kind of
02:41 < Hunterkll> but imagine that embedded in the motehrboard
02:41 < LemWork> Hunterkll... what you want is infiniband
02:41 < Hunterkll> that's how server motherboards can give you 12 x8 slots on a cpu only supporting 40 lanes or whatever
02:41 < LemWork> that's an actual networking standard at that speed
02:41 < Hunterkll> ......
02:41 < Hunterkll> LemWork, i'm using it as an analogy to explain how pcie multiplexers work
02:41 < LemWork> righto
02:41 < Hunterkll> how a motherboard can provide you more PCIe slots / lanes then the CPU supports
02:42 < Hunterkll> it has the /equivelent/ of a network switch connected to all those slots, which then connects to the cpu
02:42 < Virtual-Potato> so where do MAC addresses get involved with this?
02:42 < LemWork> they don't.
02:42 < Hunterkll> actually, each card does have its own address... :p
02:43 < LemWork> the address is assigned by the system though, not hard coded
02:43 < LemWork> there is a device ID, but two devices of the same make/model/type will have the same device ID
02:43 < Hunterkll> Virtual-Potato, http://www.ti.com/product/TS2PCIE412
02:43 < Hunterkll> like this
02:43 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  TS2PCIE412 4-channel PCIe 8:16 Multiplexer/Demultiplexer Passive FET Switch | TI.com
02:43 < xe0n> rant mode on.
02:43 < Hunterkll> The TS2PCIE412 is a 4-channel PCIe 2:1 multiplexer/demultiplexer switch that can be used to route one PCIe data lane between two possible destinations or two PCIe data lanes to one destination.
02:44 < rpifan> what book should i take for my roo trip
02:44 < Virtual-Potato> so how do you implement STP in this?
02:44 < rpifan> i got the bible
02:44 < rpifan> time travel
02:44 < rpifan> less then zero
02:44 < Hunterkll> Virtual-Potato, woah now, let's not get into hotplug pcie just yet
02:44 < Hunterkll> ;)
02:44 < rpifan> infiinte jest
02:45 < Virtual-Potato> Hunterkll, what about VLANs?
02:45 < benjgvps> Is Ruckus still the go-to for high density wifi? I may be dealing with an outdoor event in a month
02:45 < xe0n> what's all this ruckus
02:45 < admiralspark> Virtual-Potato: what the hell are you trying to do?
02:45 < xe0n> hehehe
02:46 < Virtual-Potato> admiralspark, you tell me
02:46 < Hunterkll> benjgvps, i've used mostly cisco in that regard
02:46 < Hunterkll> had AP cells every 10 feet
02:46 < Hunterkll> lol
02:46 < Hunterkll> had like 100 APs running for that event on a massive WLC
02:46 < admiralspark> benjgvps: done it with Meraki, Cisco, Ubiquiti, Aerohive. What's the specific need?
02:46 < Virtual-Potato> Hunterkll, don't tell me you used the same channel on all of them
02:47 < Hunterkll> Virtual-Potato, they autoadjusted power levels, did automatic client handoff, etc
02:47 < admiralspark> Virtual-Potato: cisco is intelligent enough to channel shift and micromanage roaming
02:47 < Hunterkll> it was all automagic'd
02:47 < admiralspark> ^^
02:47 < Virtual-Potato> yeah that's the clearair thing right?
02:47 < Hunterkll> fucking flawless
02:47 < Hunterkll> no
02:47 < Hunterkll> that's something else
02:47 < Virtual-Potato> oh right
02:47 < Hunterkll> we were piping 10gbit of internet through that wifi
02:47 < Hunterkll> lol
02:47 < Virtual-Potato> that's where it jams rogue APs
02:47 < Virtual-Potato> my bad
02:47 < Hunterkll> ... it doesn't jam them...
02:47 < Virtual-Potato> you know what I mean
02:47 < Hunterkll> detects, you mean? :p
02:47 < Hunterkll> https://www.snia.org/sites/default/education/tutorials/2009/spring/networking/RonEmerick_PCI%20Express_and_Storage.pdf
02:47 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  APPLICATION/PDF Document, 883,318 bytes
02:47 < Hunterkll> ^^ pcie stuff to break your mind
02:47 < Virtual-Potato> I thought they also could send deauth packets to the APs too?
02:48 < Hunterkll> Eighty percent of companies report problems with radio frequency interference (RFI). Cisco CleanAir Technology is a proactive protection for RFI.  It accurately identifies the source, location, and scope of RFI.
02:48 < xe0n> they send darth packets
02:48 < Virtual-Potato> ah must have misremembered then
02:48 < Hunterkll> Virtual-Potato, malicious interference would be bad
02:48 < Hunterkll> :p
02:49 < admiralspark> xe0n: deauth :P
02:49 < admiralspark> the darth ones are the red lightsaber packets. That's Ruckus
02:49 < benjgvps> admiralspark: Still getting details. We're an WISP and have a tower about 700M from the main area, so we're likely going to backhaul in whatever bandwidth we need (300-500M probably). I think about 10k people over a weekend
02:49 < LemWork> and Ubiquiti sends blue lightsaber packets?
02:49 < admiralspark> HAH
02:49 < LemWork> that flail around like a padawan and fuck your entire network up?
02:49 < admiralspark> benjgvps: do some simple math of 500mbps among 10k people
02:49 < benjgvps> admiralspark: YEP
02:50 < benjgvps> I imagine getting a gig wouldn't be difficult
02:50 < LemWork> admiralspark... it's call contention ratio holmes
02:50 < admiralspark> LemWork: I've done now over a dozen ubnt installs from a WISP backhaul to a 5k person event to a school with full l3 roaming, never had issues. But I also RTFM
02:50 < LemWork> called*
02:50 < LemWork> admiralspark, I know ubnt can be good, but I have my own complaints about them
02:51 < LemWork> namely with their cameras more than anything
02:51 < admiralspark> if UBNT fucks your network up, you designed it wrong :P
02:51 < admiralspark> oh
02:51 < benjgvps> Once I get more details, I will be able to give them a firm hell nope if the numbers are too high
02:51 < admiralspark> yeah
02:51 < admiralspark> that's not network, that's cameras ;)
02:51 < LemWork> still involves my network!
02:51 < admiralspark> their phones are janky too fwiw
02:51 < LemWork> :-P
02:51 < LemWork> when they went from Gen 2 to Gen 3 and just went "oh btw everyone, Gen 1 is no longer supported at all"
02:51 < admiralspark> you think the 20% background traffic from skinny protocol phones flooding is bad, try their godawful coded android wannabe deskphones
02:52 < LemWork> that kinda pissed me off a little bit
02:52 < benjgvps> At the minimum, we'd be able to do staff / organizer wifi, but public wifi would be brutal
02:52 < admiralspark> LemWork: you mean the Gen1 AP's?
02:52 < LemWork> admiralspark, no Gen 1 cameras
02:52 < admiralspark> they were like 7 years old at that point
02:52 < admiralspark> cisco does the same with their stuff only it's ever 5 years
02:52 < admiralspark> ohg
02:52 < admiralspark> hah
02:52 < admiralspark> didn't know they dumped the old cameras
02:52 < LemWork> yup
02:52 < admiralspark> I have a feeling it has something to do with their hardware partners, they dumped the majority of their gen1 stuff
02:52 < LemWork> but they took it one step further
02:53 < LemWork> the NVR's can either work with Gen 1 and 2 cameras, or Gen 2 and 3... but not Gen 1 and 3
02:53 < LemWork> and you can't buy Gen 2 or Gen 1 cameras anymore...
02:53 < LemWork> so if you have an existing system with Gen 1 cameras, and want to add another camera...
02:55 < benjgvps> I already have a pessimistic email chain that basically said "This is incredibly difficult to do right, we're used to serving 60 people in a 10km radius, not thousands in a .5km radius" and got a response that seemed like a blank cheque.
02:55 < LemWork> lol
02:55 < xe0n> blank cheque...remember that movie?
02:55 < LemWork> my boss queried me putting in a 13.5 hour day on friday... she got 3 pages in reply
02:56 < LemWork> I got a promise to hire another person.
02:57 < benjgvps> I laughed pretty hard when I got the first email, they thought it was going to be like "Grab a couple 5GHz Cambium ePMP CPEs and a couple Mikrotik outdoor APs and spend an afternoon setting a couple things up on a portable tower"
02:59 < xe0n> 3 page reply loll
03:01 < Virtual-Potato> benjgvps, what do you mean, we can't just hook up a couple Mikrotik AP's and have them serve 10k clients? its wifi, its supposed to just work
03:04 < benjgvps> "We can do that, but the SSID will be '$CompetitorName-Free WiFi' "
03:04 < Virtual-Potato> I mean an AP can deal with what, 10-20 clients concurrently?
03:05 < Virtual-Potato> Obviously depends on the kind of AP too... a cheap one might buckle at 5
03:05 < misspwn> LemWork, how much you gona pay me?
03:05 < misspwn> haven't mentioned this in a while, but barracuda support is so fucking amazing
03:05 < benjgvps> Virtual-Potato: I'm going to need more WRT54Gs
03:06 < Virtual-Potato> Yeah, I'm thinking just buy 5000 AP's, name each AP like: "$CompanyName-Free-WiFi-0001", and then "$CompanyName-Free-WiFi-0002" and so on
03:07 < Virtual-Potato> 500*
03:07 < Virtual-Potato> and manually configure each one
03:12 < MadCamel> Virtual-Potato: you're not doing it with IoT. What you actually need is a whole lot of $4 esp8266 wifi modules in an AP mesh. You can have one AP per client that way, right next to the desks. Unlimited range too since it's a mesh!
03:13 < Virtual-Potato> >Tries to tracert
03:13 < Virtual-Potato> >TTL Exceededcd
03:13 < Virtual-Potato> why?
03:14 < xe0n> nawt hawt dawg
03:15 < rpifan> sigh
03:15 < rpifan> amazon
03:15 < rpifan> stole my packages
03:15 < Virtual-Potato> ?
03:15 < MadCamel> speaking of wifi though what sort of kit will get a beam through a neighboring wooden building's roof? Can't do 900mhz there's a hill in the fresnel zone, even occludes 2.4 a little. I got a link up with nanostation loco m2's but it's pretty crap
03:16 < xe0n> the delivery man is fucking your wife
03:16 < rpifan> im gay
03:16 < Virtual-Potato> s/wife/husband
03:16 <+layer-eight> [SED Virtual-Potato/xe0n] the delivery man is fucking your husband
03:17 < nohusuro> Virtual-Potato: usual TTL is like 30 hops.
03:17 < rpifan> lol
03:17 < rpifan> i dont date
03:17 < xe0n> oh yeah
03:17 < xe0n> lol
03:17 < Virtual-Potato> ah yes that's right, once you get married you don't date anymore
03:17 < xe0n> lol
03:18 < MadCamel> who says?
03:18 < Church-> ^
03:18 < Virtual-Potato> rpifan said so himself
03:20 < rpifan> lol
03:20 < rpifan> im not into humans
03:20 < rpifan> or animals
03:20 < rpifan> or anything
03:20 < Virtual-Potato> nohusuro, if you're going through 30 hops on a mesh network, you gon have a bad time
03:20 < JollyRgrs> nohusuro: when did TTL get measured in hops/
03:20 < JollyRgrs> ?
03:20 < JollyRgrs> i think i missed that lesson
03:20 < nohusuro> Virtual-Potato: I thought you were asking a question
03:20 < nohusuro> JollyRgrs: iunno, that's how I've always known it to work
03:21 < nohusuro> all packets have a TTL which is the max hops they will go through
03:21 < nohusuro> each router along the line decrements it by 1
03:21 < nohusuro> traceroute defaults to 30
03:21 < nohusuro> with ping you can set it
03:21 < darkscrypt> you can also set it in traceroute
03:21 < nohusuro> darkscrypt: not on windows :P
03:22 < rpifan> idk how miami
03:22 < rpifan> is so low on the development scale
03:22 < Virtual-Potato> nohusuro, yes you can
03:22 < Virtual-Potato> with the -h option
03:22 < darkscrypt> tracert -h 99 bad.horse
03:22 < rpifan> even atlanta
03:22 < nohusuro> oh shit, TIL
03:22 < rpifan> has same day prime
03:22 < rpifan> not miami
03:22 < nohusuro> not like I've ever had to trace > 30 hops
03:23 < darkscrypt> nohusuro: tracert -h 99 bad.horse
03:23 < darkscrypt> you'll need a high hop count for that one
03:23 < JollyRgrs> ok class... what does TTL stand for?
03:24 < darkscrypt> talk to later
03:24 < nohusuro> time to live ?
03:24 < JollyRgrs> ^^
03:24 < Virtual-Potato> Thow tmany lhops?
03:24 < JollyRgrs> not hops, time
03:24 < darkscrypt> telnet to Loli's
03:24 < nohusuro> JollyRgrs: you don't think it's measure in actual time do you?
03:24 < JollyRgrs> tracert/route my default limit to 30 hops to trace...but that's not the TTL....
03:24 < nohusuro> as in, seconds?
03:25 < Virtual-Potato> JollyRgrs, but in RIP, TTL is a measure of hops
03:25 < darkscrypt> oh. i didn't realize. i just came in reading nohusuro's long tangent
03:25 < nohusuro> wtf are you talking about, or am I being retarded here? That totally is the TTL for a packet
03:25 < nohusuro> darkscrypt: I needed 46 for bad.horse
03:25 < darkscrypt> https://www.google.com/search?q=routing+ttl&oq=routing+ttl&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l4.1447j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
03:25 <+layer-eight> * darkscrypt →  routing ttl - Google Search
03:25 < darkscrypt> Time-to-live Definition. The time-to-live (TTL) is the number of hops that a packet is permitted to travel before being discarded by a router.
03:26 < nohusuro> http://www.erg.abdn.ac.uk/users/gorry/course/images/ip-header.gif
03:26 <+layer-eight> * nohusuro →  IMAGE/GIF Document, 5,504 bytes
03:26 < nohusuro> TTL - Number of network hops
03:26 < nohusuro> lrn2packetheader
03:27 < darkscrypt> that moment when you try to school people but it doesn't go as planned :)
03:27 < Virtual-Potato> l2tp... learn 2 t-something packet
03:28 < Virtual-Potato> darkscrypt, that explains why he doesn't have his @ anymore :P
03:28 < darkscrypt> Penile Pain Testicular Propulsion
03:28 < darkscrypt> he can opper up whenever he wants lol
03:28 < JollyRgrs> it is hard to troll when no one is scoring goals :(
03:29 < darkscrypt> he just chats without it because he probs just wants to chill out haha
03:29 < JollyRgrs> however, TTL in DNS is a time in seconds
03:29 < darkscrypt> ops get celebrity
03:29 < darkscrypt> JollyRgrs: yeah. it is :)
03:30 < JollyRgrs> darkscrypt: you see the new JP content for RL?
03:30 < darkscrypt> JollyRgrs: nope
03:30 < darkscrypt> JP?
03:30 < JollyRgrs> OMG...
03:30 < JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43tEL75Ef8I
03:30 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  YouTube → Rocket League - Jurassic World DLC Trailer → ⚘ 117,616 ↑ 4,157 ↓ 141 ✍ 396
03:30 < darkscrypt> oh nice!
03:30 < darkscrypt> JollyRgrs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAcRaMx7CUM
03:30 <+layer-eight> * darkscrypt →  YouTube → Jurassic Park Meets Parkour In Real Life → ⚘ 4,908,314 ↑ 36,162 ↓ 5,070 ✍ 3,887
03:34 < rpifan> sigh
03:34 < darkscrypt> JollyRgrs: thats pretty cool. The only thing they need to do is to make the ball one of glass ball vehicles that people could sit in
03:34 < rpifan> too bonnaroobee i go
03:34 < rpifan> without my food
03:34 < rpifan> gopro flash
03:34 < rpifan> or tarp
03:34 < rpifan> was in my amazon package
03:37 < JollyRgrs> darkscrypt: that'd be interesting
03:37 < JollyRgrs> i just want the t-rex explosion
03:37 < JollyRgrs> the jeeps are coo, too
03:38 < JollyRgrs> but what about the OG Ford Explorers?
03:38 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, did you launch plex in docker yet
03:39 < JollyRgrs> coderphive: nope, couldn't decide
03:42 < Virtual-Potato> hm what's for dinner
03:42 < Virtual-Potato> crackers or popcorn
03:44 < rpifan> sigh
03:44  * rpifan screams at the amazon customer service chat window
03:44 < LemWork> misspwn 3 jelly beans per ticket resolved.
03:45 < rpifan> i think amazon is gonna ban me soon
03:46 < misspwn> LemWork, shit, those better be starburst jelly beans
03:48 < LemWork> jelly belly
03:49 < coderphive> Talk me out of eating ice cream for dinner
03:49 < misspwn> well that all depends on what kind of ice cream it is
03:50 < coderphive> blue bell
03:50 < misspwn> you should also talk me out of eating ice cream for dinner.
03:50 < misspwn> make some eggs instead
03:50 < coderphive> you should eat nothing you fat shit
03:50 < coderphive> stick to keto
03:50 < coderphive> your gf hates you anyway
03:50 < coderphive> good?
03:50 < misspwn> yeah stupid fatties
03:51 < misspwn> so you should not eat ice cream so you can see your weiner
03:51 < coderphive> i just spit on my monitor
03:51 < JollyRgrs> misspwn: when i was in middle school, i saw a birthday card that was so hilarious, i never forgot it
03:52 < misspwn> your weiner wants you to beat some eggs and throw some shit in it and put in a oven proof baking dish at 350F for about 30min
03:52 < rpifan> misspwn, do you support end users
03:52 < JollyRgrs> it is about growing older and having dickidoo disease
03:52 < coderphive> 30 min?
03:52 < JollyRgrs> it is when your stomach sticks out further than your dicky do
03:52 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, you are clearly from the south
03:52 < misspwn> hahah JollyRgrs dickidoo disease, love that
03:52 < coderphive> doxd.self
03:52 < JollyRgrs> what does that have to do with the card?
03:52 < misspwn> rpifan, kinda
03:52 < xe0n> wtffff
03:52 < rpifan> oh
03:52 < misspwn> xe0n, YOU were gona get us taco bell, asshole
03:52 < rpifan> thats a shame
03:53 < rpifan> i am mean rude
03:53 < xe0n> the guy i work with just came back from maccas with a big mac, minus the buns..
03:53 < rpifan> pushy and manipulative
03:53 < rpifan> as an end user
03:53 < xe0n> wtff
03:53 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, I'll be at your house shortly
03:53 < JollyRgrs> xe0n: gotta atkins that :P
03:53 < misspwn> coderphive, yeah puttin beaten eggs with leftover things that you have that sound good into a baking dish is basically a fritata
03:53 < misspwn> hell you could put hotdogs in it i'm sure it would taste good
03:53 < coderphive> that sounds fancy
03:53 < JollyRgrs> coderphive: when you get down aroun' yonder, give a hollar an i'll fetch you some swate tay
03:54 < coderphive> lmao
03:54 < JollyRgrs> misspwn: fritatas are a PITA to actually cook though
03:54 < coderphive> s/give/himme
03:54 <+layer-eight> [SED coderphive/JollyRgrs] coderphive: when you get down aroun' yonder, himme a hollar an i'll fetch you some swate tay
03:54 < JollyRgrs> that low heat don't break it part of the cooking
03:54 < coderphive> srsly I am craving ice cream like a heroine addict
03:54 < misspwn> really? usually 350F and i cook it till it's starting to brown on top
03:54 < xe0n> JollyRgrs: he's on some "diet"
03:54 < coderphive> am i pregnant?
03:54 < JollyRgrs> y'all come back now, ya'hyuh?
03:55 < JollyRgrs> xe0n: yeah, atkins
03:55 < nohusuro> xe0n: I used to know a vegetarian that liked to eat the buns with fries inside, so I usually got a couple of extra meat paddies on the side :D
03:55 < rpifan> i feel bad for these poor indians dealing with pushy americans
03:55 < JollyRgrs> or possibly keto
03:55 < rpifan> but htye keep lieing to me
03:55 < coderphive> let's ask google
03:55 < JollyRgrs> both are low/no carb
03:55 < misspwn> nohusuro, that's called a chip butty
03:55 < xe0n> YES! Keto
03:55 < xe0n> he just mentioned that
03:55 < JollyRgrs> keto doesn't really teach (historically inaccurate) caveman diet like atkins does, though
03:55 < nohusuro> misspwn: that's a fairly english term
03:55 < JollyRgrs> keto should be a lot of greens and veggies and white meats and fish
03:55 < misspwn> keto is great until you get tired of it
03:55 < nohusuro> I only call it a butty if it's on buttered bread :)
03:55 < coderphive> keto's science based
03:56 < coderphive> fyi
03:56 < JollyRgrs> coderphive: not knockin keto
03:56 < JollyRgrs> but keto isn't about big mac'in without the bun
03:56 < misspwn> it works as long as you work it much like any dietary choice
03:56 < coderphive> not saying you were, just throwing it out there
03:56 < JollyRgrs> that's not far from supersize fries and a diet coke
03:56 < coderphive> I lost 70lbs on keto
03:56 < xe0n> this guy doesn't realise to lose weight you need to be active as well, he just likes to sit on his ass
03:56 < xe0n> loll
03:56 < JollyRgrs> i lost 35 lbs in like 2 weeks by basically eating keto-ish
03:56 < coderphive> Now that my metabolism has changed I can eat complex grains
03:56 < JollyRgrs> a lot was prob cutting out dr. peppers
03:56 < misspwn> well if we cut the shit on bro science, you don't need to be active to lose weight
03:56 < coderphive> carbs*
03:57 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, that's a big one
03:57 < JollyRgrs> yup
03:57 < misspwn> i lost 86lb just doing calorie deficit
03:57 < coderphive> I do sweets once a week
03:57 < JollyRgrs> back in college it was easy
03:57 < misspwn> that was keto and not keto
03:57 < JollyRgrs> b/c i couldn't afford it, so i did wendy's 99c menu and got ice water to drink
03:57 < coderphive> kek
03:57 < xe0n> tap water?
03:57 < xe0n> free
03:57 < xe0n> lol
03:57 < coderphive> my life as a network engineer
03:57 < JollyRgrs> yup
03:57 < Casteil> damn.
03:57 < Casteil> I'm still not sure what path I want to go down
03:58 < JollyRgrs> i'm also a firm believer that if you hardcore a diet and do not stray at all... it is worst for you than cheating every once in a while
03:58 < coderphive> not network engineering
03:58 < Casteil> I keep flip-flopping between software development and project management
03:58 < misspwn> course sitting in an office job its easy to gain that back so this time around i'm trying to stay about 120 or so
03:58 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, from my adventures it is
03:58 < Casteil> I'm doing sort of both right now
03:58 < JollyRgrs> every week or two i'll throw in a cheat day or two
03:58 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, I lost all that weight and my DO told me to get off of it
03:58 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, my metabolism has been healthy since
03:58 < JollyRgrs> then i don't "crave"
03:58 < xe0n> i just stay active and eat balanced meals
03:59 < xe0n> i wouldn't mind losing about 5kg
03:59 < coderphive> I also don't bring home a gallon of ice cream and a subway sub anymore
03:59 < coderphive> so maybe that's it
03:59 < coderphive> fat old self
03:59 < JollyRgrs> i still have some weight i wanna lose, but when i plateau... that's when i decide to cheat a day or two... then i get back on it and i'm losing more (and i don't really gain when i cheat just for the day or two)
03:59 < JollyRgrs> eww, subway?
03:59 < JollyRgrs> gross
03:59 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, it takes time
03:59 < JollyRgrs> at least firehouse or something
03:59 < coderphive> ugh
03:59 < coderphive> Firehouse
03:59 < coderphive> meow
03:59 < coderphive> did I just say that
03:59 < coderphive> what's wrong with me
03:59 < JollyRgrs> ....
03:59 < JollyRgrs> yes....
04:00 < coderphive> I should leave
04:00 < Nostalg14c> Morning.
04:00 < Nostalg14c> the fk
04:01 < JollyRgrs> oh man
04:01 < JollyRgrs> i've not even seen this yet... but it should be good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVeAdzNU2ow
04:01 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  YouTube → Ryan Reynolds and Josh Brolin Insult Each Other | CONTAINS STRONG LANGUAGE! → ⚘ 9,580,233 ↑ 174,890 ↓ 3,315 ✍ 4,472
04:01 < Casteil> firehouse is pretty tasty
04:01 < JollyRgrs> of course it is
04:01 <@Nostalg14c> ty mr Chanserv
04:03 < nohusuro> Nostalg14c: what time do you finish work if you start at 10am?
04:04 < Casteil> yuck
04:04  * Casteil likes starting earlier and getting home earlier
04:05 < rpifan> bought a 6 gallon jug for rum
04:05 < rpifan> and an old coke bottle for water
04:05 < rpifan> lol
04:05 < Casteil> like 7am -> 3pm ideally (I usually skip lunch but end up staying til 4 or later )
04:06 < Casteil> ..6 gallon jug for rum..
04:06 < Casteil> wut
04:08 < rpifan> or is it 6 cups
04:08 < rpifan> hmm
04:08 < rpifan> its a jug
04:08 < rpifan> a big jug
04:08 < Casteil> 6 gallons is... enough rum to kill about 20 people
04:08 < rpifan> 8 glasses it says
04:08 < Casteil> 6 gallons is 1 gallon bigger than a 5 gallon bucket
04:08 < rpifan> so i guess one gallon
04:08 <@Nostalg14c> nohusuro: idk, 4-5
04:09 < misspwn> coderphive, hey fatass, you eating ice cream yet?
04:09 < Casteil> Nostalg14c: .. lol, 10-4, must be nice >.>
04:09 <@Nostalg14c> i've been here since ~9:20 though.. but that's the earliest i've been in for a couple months.
04:09 <@Nostalg14c> Casteil: ill work till 6 sometimes.
04:10 < Casteil> must be nice.. sometimes working 8 hours
04:10 < Casteil> (minus lunch probably)
04:11 < rpifan> i enjoy liking tragic fb posts
04:11 < rpifan> no one knows if you are supporting the feeling
04:11 < rpifan> or the bad thing
04:11 < rpifan> lol
04:11 < rpifan> someone died
04:11 < rpifan> like
04:11 < Casteil> are you paid part time or something?
04:11 < rpifan> someone is sick like
04:11 < misspwn> rpifan, you should just start liking or loving the posts
04:12 < rpifan> i dont use them fake emokis
04:12 < rpifan> apparently they steal your soul if u do
04:12 < misspwn> but you could like karens posts or even love them
04:13 < xe0n> you're tearing me apart lisa
04:13 <@Nostalg14c> Casteil: nah salaried full time
04:13 <@Nostalg14c> just a lazy mofo
04:15 < Casteil> no offense but you probably wouldn't be working for me very long if you were only putting in 6-7 hours a day on average
04:16 < togenshi> Nostalg14c: same here, suppose to start at 7, been rocking up around 8:30-9. Too cold to get up earlier
04:16 < rpifan> i wanted to say something tragic comedic
04:16 < nohusuro> Casteil: if he got all his work done in 6-7, would that be a problem?
04:16 < rpifan> about kate spade being dead
04:16 < rpifan> but they locked the thread
04:16 < rpifan> on reddit
04:17 <@Nostalg14c> nohusuro: ye thats what i do
04:17 <@Nostalg14c> get everything that needs to be done.
04:17 <@Nostalg14c> And have no problems returning emails after hours.
04:19 < rpifan> was gonna make the joke about cat spade lol
04:19 < Casteil> the one thing that makes me reluctant to always do like 8 hours straight from 7a-3p is that I feel bad leaving early
04:19 < Casteil> I don't like people having the notion that I'm just taking off 'early' and slacking even if it's anything but accurate
04:20 < Casteil> (and apparently our new HR manager works either 9-5 or 9-6, not quite sure on that)
04:23 < Casteil> I'm due for my 2yr review.. overdue really, and I suspect they'll try to put me on salary again, last time their salary offer was kind of insulting, it was hardly anything more than I made over the first year after overtime
04:24 < misspwn> rpifan, don't you make a crack at kate spade:( it's too soon and my purses would be sad
04:24 < Casteil> ended up getting a 15% hourly hike and keeping OT pay
04:24 < misspwn> nice 15%
04:25 < rpifan> lol
04:25 < Casteil> I'd stepped up from IT support to a software implementation coordinator type role
04:26 < Casteil> (if you ask me even after the 15% I still feel a bit underpaid :\)
04:29 < rpifan> how much r u making
04:30 <+NinjaStyle> Who wants to cyberbully me tonight
04:30 < Virtual-Potato> not enough
04:30  * Casteil throws a glock 19 at NinjaStyle 
04:30 < Virtual-Potato> NinjaStyle, wtf am I doing then, if not cyberbullying?
04:31  * misspwn ninja steals NinjaStyle 's pog collection
04:31 < MillerBoss> s/to cyberbully/to cyber
04:31 <+layer-eight> [SED MillerBoss/NinjaStyle] Who wants to cyber me tonight
04:31 < misspwn> lel
04:31 < misspwn> well i'm out
04:32 < Casteil> I should do the same
04:32 < Virtual-Potato> MillerBoss, that was an useless replacement of 'to'
04:32 < rpifan> me
04:32 < Virtual-Potato> just /cyberbully /cyber / would have worked :P
04:32 < misspwn> oh, i just meant in the cybering department. the skills required cannot be fullfilled at this time.
04:33 < MillerBoss> Yeah I could have done the space
04:33 < MillerBoss> Thanks for that Virtual-Potato
04:33 < Virtual-Potato> MillerBoss, saving the world, one character at a time
04:33 < misspwn> Virtual-Potato, you're doing the lords work
04:33 < MillerBoss> Someone has to since cryptic1 is slacking
04:34 < Virtual-Potato> Wait, cryptic1 is using Slack and not IRC? YOU HEATHEN
04:34 < javi404> What is a decent Android tablet these days?
04:34 < javi404> what are you guys using at work?
04:34 < Virtual-Potato> javi404, an iPad
04:34 < javi404> or supporting I should say
04:34 < javi404> fuck apple
04:34 < javi404> but Virtual-Potato honestly it is on my short list
04:35 < javi404> since this is for mom, I am looking for something easy to support
04:35 < javi404> hence why I ask here.
04:35 < Virtual-Potato> yeah just go for an iPad
04:35 < javi404> since I know people support tablets sometimes.
04:35 <+NinjaStyle> I want an OLED tablet that isn't loaded with Samsung bloat
04:35 < Virtual-Potato> it's nearly idiot proof
04:35 < misspwn> i ssh into a shell and just run irssi
04:35 < MillerBoss> Even Google stopped making Android tablets.
04:35 < javi404> NinjaStyle: bingo
04:35 < Casteil> tablets are for children
04:35 <+NinjaStyle> Or airplanes
04:35 < javi404> I just want pure android or something that will keep getting updates.
04:35 < misspwn> because that instantly makes it look like you are working for the matrix or an elite hacker
04:35 < javi404> Casteil: and old people
04:35 < Virtual-Potato> javi404, problem with android tablets - you have those shitty malware filled apps that hoover up all of your data
04:36 < javi404> Virtual-Potato: those apps are on ipad too
04:36 < MillerBoss> No sir
04:36 < Virtual-Potato> not as rampant as it is on Android
04:36 < javi404> MillerBoss: Virtual-Potato: true, but like I said, this is for mom.
04:36 < misspwn> yeah cause, iProducts are inpeneterarrable
04:36 < javi404> she will use gmail, and the browser tops.
04:36 < MillerBoss> For your mom, seriously get an iPad
04:37 <@Nostalg14c> Casteil: why reluctant?
04:37 < MillerBoss> Its super super easy to use
04:37 < Virtual-Potato> javi404, if your mom is anything like mine, you'll want to get her an iPad
04:37 < javi404> MillerBoss: searching ebay, i just hate Apple stuff
04:37 < misspwn> kindle fire is 49bucks works just fine and cheap enough to replace
04:37 <@Nostalg14c> I know my output is higher than 95% of other staff the fucking slowness/ineffiency of people is astounding.
04:37 < javi404> Virtual-Potato: haha, I got her a chromebook for what I assume is the same reasons you got your mom an iPad
04:37 < Casteil> fair, if you're not bullshitting ;)
04:37 < javi404> something that she can use that needs no support from me.
04:37 < misspwn> and if it breaks, amazon is like hey i'l replace it bbygurl
04:38 < MillerBoss> javi404: See https://www.apple.com/shop/browse/home/specialdeals/ipad full warranty and save
04:38 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  Refurbished iPad - Apple
04:38 < javi404> misspwn: i have an old kindle fire, but it never got any fucking updates after a while, which sucks.
04:38 < javi404> hardware is fine
04:38 < javi404> but no updates
04:38 < MillerBoss> Also check Best Buy open box deals.
04:38 < javi404> layer-eight: you are speaking my language, refurb is fine.
04:38 < misspwn> yeah the older generation one that i tossed to a coworker wouldn't hold a charge for shit so not sure about the updates
04:38 < MillerBoss> layer-eight speaks everyone's language.
04:38 < javi404> MillerBoss: good idea, forgot about open box deals.
04:38 < javi404> thanks
04:39 < MillerBoss> You bet sir
04:39 < misspwn> my iphone battery exploded though and apple will replace the whole thing for 89bucks. it's an 5s
04:39 < Virtual-Potato> or go on Craigslist for a nice, totally cheap iPad that the seller is looking to sell QUICK. Oh and is most definitely not stolen
04:39 < misspwn> after switching to googlefi, all it was used for was spotify
04:39 < MillerBoss> That too but test it before you buy
04:39 < MillerBoss> Test camera too etc
04:40 < MillerBoss> $339 iPad mini 4 128GB https://www.apple.com/shop/browse/home/specialdeals/ipad/ipad_mini_4/wi_fi
04:40 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  Refurbished iPad mini 4 Wi-Fi - Apple
04:40 < Hunterkll> Cox. Internet so good you'll wish you had it on you everywhere.
04:40 < misspwn> open box is not a bad idea really
04:40 < misspwn> especially microcenter open box deals
04:41 < misspwn> "we had to replace the keyboard, cant sell as new"
04:41 < Hunterkll> Virtual-Potato, hey, as long as the ipad doesn't have icloud lock then i'm game
04:41 < Hunterkll> lol
04:41 < Virtual-Potato> Hunterkll, just never connect it to the internet
04:41 < Hunterkll> flip that shit on ebay NO ICLOUD LOCK
04:41 < Virtual-Potato> and you'll be fine
04:41 < Hunterkll> noper
04:41 < Hunterkll> has to have no lock
04:41 < Hunterkll> i'll happily buy stolen apple gear without icloud lock
04:41 < Hunterkll> lol
04:42 < misspwn> ayyy wana buy a busted iphone 5s 10/10 stolen
04:42 < MillerBoss> https://iphoneimei.net/ works for that Hunterkll
04:42 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  Free iPhone IMEI Checker and Unlocking services - iPhoneIMEI.Net
04:43 < MillerBoss> They get that directly in Apple databases
04:43 < Hunterkll> ehhh
04:43 < misspwn> the eimei is so hard to read
04:43 < Hunterkll> not always
04:43 < Hunterkll> lol
04:43 < MillerBoss> I use it.
04:43 < Hunterkll> i saw someone trying to sell an old ipad
04:43 < Hunterkll> like an ipad 2 or 3 or something i don't remember
04:43 < Hunterkll> for $70
04:43 < Hunterkll> with icloud lock
04:43 < Hunterkll> i was like lulz
04:43 < Hunterkll> that's $70 without lock
04:43 <@Nostalg14c> I need an 'ad domain trusts for dummies'guide.
04:43 < Hunterkll> probably the first to support it
04:44 < MillerBoss> Yup and that website will get it taken care of. :)
04:44 < Hunterkll> ehhh
04:44 < MillerBoss> Been using it for a year now
04:44 < Hunterkll> MillerBoss, i was saying that the ipad being sold was worth $70 if it didn't have the lock
04:44 < Hunterkll> with lock it worth like $20 for parts
04:44 < Hunterkll> lol
04:44 < MillerBoss> Oh I gotcha :P
04:46 <+NinjaStyle> I was legit considering buying an iPad. Was gonna do it today but I walked on the river instead
04:46 <+NinjaStyle> Like Jesus
04:46 < Virtual-Potato> MillerBoss, is that site actually legit? They claim to have an iCloud lock removal service
04:47 < MillerBoss> Yup.
04:47 < Hunterkll> Virtual-Potato, there have been ways before to do it directly through apple's site
04:47 < Hunterkll> and throguh some SE work
04:47 < MillerBoss> They get the devices added to Apple's database.
04:47 < Hunterkll> you can do it yourself if you know what buttons to push, so to speak
04:47 < Hunterkll> once the entire damn control system had been exposed to the 'net
04:47 < Hunterkll> that was funny
04:48 < Hunterkll> MillerBoss, you mean they get it disassociated from the current account it's associated to
04:48 < Hunterkll> that's how the lock is removed
04:48 < Virtual-Potato> but how do they get it to disassociate?
04:48 < Hunterkll> Virtual-Potato, backdoor / roundabout access, social engineerign, someone on the inside, etc
04:48 <+NinjaStyle> They're apple
04:48 < JollyRgrs> by using the disassociative property
04:48 < Hunterkll> many ways to skin a cat
04:48 < MillerBoss> Sure you could say that. but the lock is removed from the device itself.
04:48 < Hunterkll> yes
04:49 < Hunterkll> MillerBoss, there's no adding to a database, and there's no one central database for this
04:49 <+NinjaStyle> I bet you can call apple and bs them into unlock
04:49 < Hunterkll> but once the device is set to remote unlock and then removed from account
04:49 < Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, it's quite hard and they usually make you go into the store with proof of purchase and ID and shit
04:49 <+NinjaStyle> It was a gift
04:49 < Hunterkll> but they've exposed control systems by accident before, among other things
04:50 < Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, yes, a gift. that had icloud lock. and you don't even know the account name it's locked on. and the person giving you the gift doesn't know either.
04:50 < Hunterkll> right
04:50 < Hunterkll> that's one where they'll outright refuse to do anything for you
04:50 < Hunterkll> lol
04:50 <+NinjaStyle> It was my dads, he ded
04:50 < rpifan> hmm
04:51 < rpifan> crazy hot milf type
04:51 < rpifan> hmm
04:51 < Hunterkll> you'd A.) probably know his e mail address, and B.) have the death certificate, and be able to negotiate with apple directly
04:51 < rpifan> i guess as long as you ont look at her face
04:51 <+NinjaStyle> I doubt they would ask for that
04:51 < Hunterkll> youo'd be surprised
04:51 <+NinjaStyle> You could say you don't know his email
04:51 < JollyRgrs> oh, they would
04:51 < Virtual-Potato> yeah just walk up to the booth and go sobbing
04:51 < Virtual-Potato> 'my dad just died'
04:51 <+NinjaStyle> I feel like this is a challenge
04:51 < Virtual-Potato> 'there were a few pics of us in this phone'
04:52 < Virtual-Potato> 'please help me get it back'
04:52 < Hunterkll> "my dad just died so i reset his phone and erased everything please remove the lock"
04:52 < Hunterkll> Virtual-Potato, the icloud lock doesn't kick in until you wipe the device and try to set it up again
04:52 < Virtual-Potato> dad died, mum didn't know the code to login so someone on the internet told her to wipe the device and try to log in
04:52 < Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, in hte case of a death, yes, apple will ask for the death certificate and icloud email address
04:53 <+NinjaStyle> I don't care anymore
04:53 < Virtual-Potato> it's like what NinjaStyle said - this is a fun challenge
04:53 < Hunterkll> lol
04:53 < Virtual-Potato> if someone is willing to donate an iCloud locked phone
04:53 < Virtual-Potato> I'll try to get it unlocked :)
04:53 <+NinjaStyle> Virtual-Potato: I have one actually
04:53 < Virtual-Potato> well?
04:54 <+NinjaStyle> I'm going to try it myself at some point
04:54 <+NinjaStyle> It was a Corp device and asshat locked to find my iPhone before quitting
04:55 < Virtual-Potato> oh that's even better
04:55 < Virtual-Potato> "This was a former employee's phone. I was his direct manager and he decided to lock the phone before he quit"
04:56 <+NinjaStyle> They may ask for the purchase order though
04:56 < JollyRgrs> or reply on the corp email domain at least
04:56 <+NinjaStyle> You could probably say it was a 1 off
04:57 < Virtual-Potato> NinjaStyle, meh how hard is it to print a fake PO? Just claim that the corp's PO gives different numbers from the order #'s that apple provides
04:57 <+NinjaStyle> JollyRgrs: they may have used their persotemail though
04:57 <+NinjaStyle> Personal*
04:57 < Virtual-Potato> say the corp has its own ordering system
04:57 < Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, this is why you need apple's DEP
04:57 < Hunterkll> device enrollment program
04:58 < Hunterkll> manage it before icloud hits it, and override icloud
05:02 < Virtual-Potato> more than one way to skin a cat I guess
05:04 <@Nostalg14c> youll need to sign a stat-dec Virtual-Potato
05:04 < Virtual-Potato> a what?
05:05 <@Nostalg14c> Hmm maybe they're an aus thing.
05:05 <@Nostalg14c> https://www.australia.gov.au/information-and-services/public-safety-and-law/statutory-declarations
05:05 <+layer-eight> * Nostalg14c →  Statutory declarations | australia.gov.au
05:07 < Virtual-Potato> "To the best of my knowledge, the bullshit I just spoke was completely true"
05:07 < Virtual-Potato> *whispers* as in true bullshit
05:09 < nohusuro> Nostalg14c: you're in net-sec right?
05:11 < Sousapro> Virtual-Potato: you'll do fine in sales lol
05:11 < Virtual-Potato> I should be a lawyer
05:12 < Virtual-Potato> Virtual-Saul
05:12 < Virtual-Potato> "You don't want a criminal lawyer. You want a 'criminal' lawyer."
05:13 < ryanjg> Better Ping Saul
05:14 <@Nostalg14c> nohusuro: nope
05:14 <@Nostalg14c> sr sysadmn @ an msp
05:14 <@Nostalg14c> but currently at the same client 4 days a week.
05:17 <+NinjaStyle> D:
05:17 < Virtual-Potato> Nostalg14c, sounds like you're a MCSP
05:17 < Virtual-Potato> Managed Client service provider
05:19 < Virtual-Potato> MSPs are basically Employee-as-a-service
05:19 < misspwn> i work for one as well
05:20 < Virtual-Potato> I work for a MSSP
05:20 < misspwn> ask me in a year
05:20 <+NinjaStyle> Managed sex service provider
05:20 < misspwn> ayy
05:20 < Virtual-Potato> damn it NinjaStyle now the world knows
05:20 < misspwn> got judging eyes like karen
05:21 < Virtual-Potato> I mean, sex is pretty much synonymous with security
05:21 < Virtual-Potato> Security is like sex, everybody wants it, but nobody is good at it
05:21 <+NinjaStyle> I'm good at both
05:24 < Virtual-Potato> That's a good quote, actually
05:24 < Virtual-Potato> I'll start saying that
05:25 <+NinjaStyle> Good luck
05:32 < coderphive> https://i.imgur.com/YWeTxqZ.jpg
05:32 <+layer-eight> * coderphive →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 1,800,185 bytes
05:32 < coderphive> Action shot
05:32 <+NinjaStyle> Cool doge
05:33 < coderphive> https://i.imgur.com/wSZC1E4.jpg
05:33 <+layer-eight> * coderphive →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 107,133 bytes
05:33 < coderphive> fairly photogenic
05:33 <+NinjaStyle> Dogogenic
05:34 < xe0n> pub lunch is always good
05:34 < coderphive> sounds like a euro
05:35 <+NinjaStyle> Euros say pub
05:35 < xe0n> aussie
05:35 < xe0n> lol
05:35 < coderphive> euros also say pub lunch
05:35 < xe0n> "bar lunch was good"?
05:35 < coderphive> what do aussie's know about xeons
05:35 < coderphive> aren't they all on celeron-D
05:36 < coderphive> jw
05:36 <+NinjaStyle> They on this celeron-d
05:37 < nohusuro> a pub and a bar are two completely different things though
05:37 < xe0n> yep
05:37 < xe0n> the taverrrnnnn
05:37 < xe0n> lol
05:38 < coderphive> TAVERN?
05:38 < coderphive> America did away with that word when we did away with the red coats
05:38 < xe0n> haha
05:38 < xe0n> watering hole?
05:38 < coderphive> that's where horses drink
05:38 < coderphive> look
05:38 < nohusuro> piss house
05:39 < coderphive> you've got nightclubs, bars, dive bars, and shitholes.
05:39 < nohusuro> a dive bar isn't a shuthole?
05:39 < nohusuro> shithole*
05:39 < coderphive> no
05:39 < Virtual-Potato> its a watering hole because that's all they serve - miller lite aka water
05:39 < coderphive> a dive bar is where you go to meet a nice hipster chick
05:39 < coderphive> a shithole is where you go to find out your aunt linda is actually a meth addict
05:39 < nohusuro> lol
05:39 < coderphive> and is also your sister
05:40 < rpifan> ok
05:40 < rpifan> so whose coming to bonnaroo
05:40 < rpifan> come on
05:40 < rpifan> fam
05:40 <+NinjaStyle> Divebar is a vibe imo
05:40 < nohusuro> most "dive bars" here are cocktail bars
05:40 < coderphive> bonnaroo is also a shithole
05:40 <+NinjaStyle> Some are cool
05:40 < nohusuro> with guys behind the bar that have curly moustaches
05:41 < Virtual-Potato> I've only been in the bar like three times in my life
05:41 < coderphive> those are neat mustaches tho
05:42 < rpifan> plz
05:42 < rpifan> be my friend
05:42 < coderphive> me?
05:43 < rpifan> all'a yall
05:43 < misspwn> bonnaroo sounds like a party
05:43 <+NinjaStyle> Friends are for nerds
05:43 <+NinjaStyle> #foreveralone
05:44 < rpifan> lol
05:44 < rpifan> misspwn, come hang out
05:44 < coderphive> damn
05:44 < rpifan> u can get me drunk
05:44 < rpifan> and pretend to turn me str8
05:44 < coderphive> NinjaStyle = incel
05:44 < misspwn> what is bonnaroo
05:44 <+NinjaStyle> Lol
05:44 < coderphive> i also just found out what an incel is
05:44 <+NinjaStyle> coderphive: I'm married
05:44 < coderphive> i'm fascinated
05:44 < Virtual-Potato> aw... I thought you were someone I could relate to, NinjaStyle
05:44 < Virtual-Potato> but no.. you're married
05:44 <+NinjaStyle> Lol
05:44 <+NinjaStyle> <3
05:44 < Virtual-Potato> no
05:44 < Virtual-Potato> </3
05:44 < coderphive> NinjaStyle, married but spend your time on the internets with men in notepad_wars.2018?
05:45 < nohusuro> I mean... you're both dead inside though?
05:45 < misspwn> at what cost though NinjaStyle ?
05:45 <+NinjaStyle> I'm in Georgia traveling for work
05:45 <+NinjaStyle> What else is there to do
05:45 < coderphive> "traveling"
05:45 < Virtual-Potato> Visit me
05:45 < coderphive> "work"
05:45 < Virtual-Potato> that's what you can do
05:45 < coderphive> "in"
05:45 < misspwn> find dank places to eat duh
05:45 <+NinjaStyle> Virtual-Potato: you in GA?
05:45 < Virtual-Potato> no
05:45 <+NinjaStyle> Oh
05:45 < coderphive> "for"
05:45 < misspwn> first thing i google for food is best burgers in xplace or best fried pickles
05:45 <+NinjaStyle> You in Alabama?
05:46 < coderphive> fried pickles
05:46 < Virtual-Potato> nah only a few hundred miles north
05:46 < coderphive> he is in alabama
05:46 <+NinjaStyle> I'm basically in Alabama right now
05:46 < rpifan> NinjaStyle, come to roo
05:46 < rpifan> ill get u a wristband
05:46 <+NinjaStyle> I'm on the border
05:46 < coderphive> lmao
05:46 < nohusuro> lol, is fried pickles a specifically alabamian thing to eat?
05:46 < coderphive> rpifan, are you at bonnaroo on irc?
05:46 < JollyRgrs> nohusuro: no
05:46 < rpifan> nop im still at home
05:46 < Virtual-Potato> nohusuro, I thought that was cousins?
05:46 < rpifan> so apparently
05:46 < misspwn> coderphive, yea i review places that claim their fried pickles are really good
05:46 < rpifan> the milk is just about to go bad
05:47 < rpifan> u can start to taste it going sour
05:47 < rpifan> but its still acceptable
05:47 <+NinjaStyle> Where is Bonnaroo?
05:47 < rpifan> gonna have to throw it out
05:47 < rpifan> sadly
05:47 < coderphive> misspwn, sorry if this sounds uncultured, but don't all fried pickles taste the same?
05:47 < coderphive> there's like 2 ingrediants
05:47 < coderphive> crust + pickle
05:47 < Virtual-Potato> coderphive, 'fried' is not an ingredient
05:47 < coderphive> liar
05:47 < coderphive> tell that to the south twice and see if you don't get hit Virtual-Potato
05:48 < ryanjg> fried is most certainly an ingredient
05:48 < rpifan> bonnaroo
05:48 <+NinjaStyle> It kinda is
05:48 < rpifan> is a thing for hippies
05:48 < rpifan> to not do drugs
05:48 < rpifan> or have sex apparently
05:48 < ryanjg> to suggest otherwise is to blaspheme the american dream
05:48 < Virtual-Potato> the breading can vary WILDLY
05:48 < misspwn> coderphive, it's not uncultured at all. some places have terrible dipping sauce for their fried pickles. some places do pickle slices which is optimum for dipping rather than eating a fried pickle spear
05:48 < misspwn> some do tempura breading and a spicy sauce
05:48 < coderphive> well
05:48 < JollyRgrs> no no no
05:48 < coderphive> I'm wet
05:48 < Virtual-Potato> you've got tempura, panko, and all sorts of breadings
05:48 < JollyRgrs> you do fried pickle chips
05:48 < JollyRgrs> btw... i hate pickles
05:48 < ryanjg> go on coderphive..
05:49 < ryanjg> im listening
05:49 <+NinjaStyle> Manchester tn is like 4 hours from me
05:49 < rpifan> exactmly
05:49 < misspwn> if a fried pickle spear is done correctly, it won't all come out of the breading leaving you with a lava pickle in yo mouth hurting your mouth ceiling
05:49 < rpifan> u r very close
05:49 < rpifan> totally worth doing
05:49 < rpifan> NinjaStyle,
05:49 < coderphive> lava pickle
05:49 < coderphive> what other kinds of pickles are there?
05:49 < coderphive> glacier pickle?
05:49 <+NinjaStyle> rpifan: I got a flight out of Atlanta Friday tho
05:50 < Virtual-Potato> those are called picklesicles
05:50 < misspwn> coderphive, eating a lava pickle is like eating pizza rolls before they cool off
05:50 < misspwn> therefor pickle slices are nicer for dipping
05:50 < coderphive> o
05:50 < Virtual-Potato> misspwn, don't forget the added bonus of the acidic juices eating away your melted flesh
05:50 < coderphive> Hooters has fried pickles
05:50 < misspwn> hah yeah
05:51 < misspwn> also one place i went to called salt and smoke had artisan pickles whatever the fuck that means. so you didn't know what you were biting into until you did
05:51 < misspwn> they were fuckin gross
05:51 < coderphive> artisan pickles
05:51 < misspwn> different brines, different pickling methods not sure
05:51 < coderphive> sounds fancy for "here's some shit jim bob threw in the fryer, glhf"
05:52 < misspwn> typically dill pickles are used so when you bite into a sweet pickle it makes your brain mad
05:52 < coderphive> how does one balance the acidity with the natural basicness of the sauce?
05:52 < misspwn> ranch or similar base
05:52 < rpifan> where u going NinjaStyle
05:52 < Virtual-Potato> ranch is the best dip for anything fried
05:53 <+NinjaStyle> Back to Denver rpifan
05:53 < coderphive> I feel like fried bananas and ranch are not a good combination
05:53 < coderphive> imo
05:53 < rpifan> sad
05:53 < Virtual-Potato> nuh uh
05:53 < misspwn> coderphive, while you left i ended up pan frying ham and onions then forgot what i was doing and remembered i was gona bake eggs and didn't want to dirty an extra pan
05:53 < rpifan> u can go to that decadence thing
05:53 < misspwn> so i moved the ham aside and tried to make an omlette
05:53 < Virtual-Potato> coderphive, you could probably whip up some chipotle sweet ranch or something
05:53 < coderphive> alright
05:54 < coderphive> I've had enough
05:54 < coderphive> no more food conversation
05:54 < Virtual-Potato> why
05:54 < coderphive> bc
05:54 < misspwn> and that's about all i know about fried pickles, forest
05:54 < coderphive> I just want ice cream
05:54 < coderphive> blue bell cookies n cream specifically
05:54 < Virtual-Potato> mmm pickle flavored ice cream
05:54 < Virtual-Potato> with pickle bits
05:54 < misspwn> so i mean i guess you have to eat the ice cream now
05:54 < coderphive> watch yourself
05:55 < coderphive> blue bell is listening
05:55 < Virtual-Potato> hm I guess that would basically be frozen tartar sauce
05:55 < misspwn> hah
05:55 < togenshi> wouldn't mind some waffles atm
05:55 < misspwn> togenshi, you're gona upset the fatty
05:55 <+NinjaStyle> I got about 400 waffle houses nearby if you need one
05:56 <+NinjaStyle> #georgiawaffles
05:56 < Virtual-Potato> I still haven't visited my local cookout
05:56 < Virtual-Potato> I need to do that
05:56 < Virtual-Potato> and get f at
05:56 < Virtual-Potato> fat*
05:56 < coderphive> i'm going to watch this netflix show with no famous people in it
05:56 < coderphive> wish me luck
05:56 <+NinjaStyle> What show
05:56 < Virtual-Potato> coderphive, watching mirror isn't 'watching netflix'
05:56 < coderphive> weird
05:56 < coderphive> I thought it was
05:57 < togenshi> i think there is a place that sells waffles in fremantle but raining/cold atm
05:57 < coderphive> I guess that explains why netflix and chill failed
05:57 < coderphive> 2307: winter's dream
05:58 < togenshi> also kinda tight on moneys atm
05:58 < togenshi> 9 days till payday
05:58 < Virtual-Potato> sounds like the opposite of a midsummer night's dream
05:58 <+NinjaStyle> Go sell your soul like I did
05:58 < coderphive> in a cheap motel
05:59 <+NinjaStyle> I'm in a Hilton
06:00 < Virtual-Potato> coderphive, I've watched the show before though
06:00 < Virtual-Potato> it's not bad
06:01 < togenshi> which one?
06:38 < hello_kitty> how do I debug ansible authentication? this thing is a black box
06:39 < hello_kitty> ansible all -m ping   -> Failed to connect, permission denied.      ansible all -m ping -k  (then giving it root password when prompted) -> Authentication failure ;; What to try next?
06:43 < hello_kitty> perhaps what it means to say is "no python2 on this machine"
06:43 < hello_kitty> i wonder, tho.
06:46 < togenshi> hello_kitty: can you ssh into the remote box from the ansible box?
06:47 < hello_kitty> togenshi: yeah
06:47 < togenshi> use the verbose command
06:47 < togenshi> think its -vvv
06:49 < hello_kitty> togenshi: thanks that is much more informative... here are some of the things it says now that seem suspect:  "ESTABLISH SSH CONNECTION FOR USER: None" (5, '', 'Permission denied, please try again.\r\n')
06:49 < vader-> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/qpVZTGez/34175689_10160466156005187_7870211748089823232_n.jpg
06:49 <+layer-eight> * vader- →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 73,352 bytes
06:49 < hello_kitty> do i need to ping as a user?
06:50 < togenshi> try that
06:50 < hello_kitty> how do i do that? i thought i was root already
06:50 < MillerBoss> admin admin, not working vader-
06:51 < togenshi> root calvin
06:51 < hello_kitty> -u root lets me ping!!
06:52 < hello_kitty> which makes like no sense to me, but is progress :D :D
06:54 < togenshi> try without -k
06:55 < hello_kitty> togenshi: that works too
06:55 < hello_kitty> i dont see any uhm.. -u username stuff in any of the tutorials.. am I supposed to put that somewhere else? like remote_user: root  in the plays or something?
06:57 < togenshi> you would use the user that calls ansible
06:57 < hello_kitty> from the control machine...?
06:57 < togenshi> usually you would have a separate user (ansible) with nopasswd sudo to get root
06:57 < togenshi> ya
06:58 < togenshi> user: ansible become: root
07:07 < hello_kitty> sweet.. user: root seems to work
07:08 < vader-> Fucking dumb Illinois toll system... They have cash tolls that only accept exact change... was there at a client's place this week and need like .90 cents here and .50 cents there... No bill acceptors...
07:23 < hello_kitty> does an ansible 'notify' get run when the task finishes..? or at the end of all the tasks
07:24 < hello_kitty> cause i just ran a task to remove root login, which ran okay, and then the play errored on a later task
07:24 < hello_kitty> but i still have root login, i think
07:24 < rpifan> tommorow
07:24 < rpifan> WFH
07:24 < rpifan> so i na run to the bus
07:24 < rpifan> off to 'roo
07:29 < hello_kitty> all of my ansisble lists seems to be wrong.. is this not how to do with_items? https://bpaste.net/show/fd4cf193637e
07:29 <+layer-eight> * hello_kitty →  show at bpaste
07:29 < hello_kitty> i copied and pasted it from another playbook.. maybe its a different version
07:30 < hello_kitty> the actual variable name "ubuntu_packages" is coming through as the package to install, according to verbose mode
07:30 < JollyRgrs> coderphive: so, i uh... just installed plex as a jail (using the plugin). ask me about it when tomorrow is for real (when the sun is up)
07:32 < hello_kitty> Yea my error is coming out as "msg": "No package matching 'ubuntu_packages' is available".. how do i get that variable name to resolve to the array which it stores, instead of being interpreted as a string
07:33 < togenshi> hello_kitty: register:
07:33 < hello_kitty> "{{ ubuntu_packages }}" ?
07:34 < dark_shadow21> hello everyone
07:34 <@Nostalg14c> o/
07:34 < dark_shadow21> is anyone here familiar with hetzner boxes?
07:35 <@Nostalg14c> tiny bit
07:35 < dark_shadow21> hetzner.de VPS
07:35 < dark_shadow21> well most vps come with limited storage, I'm wondering if I can use on of their vps boxes and link it to one of their storage solutions
07:35 < dark_shadow21> either with sshfs or borg or something
07:35 <@Nostalg14c> yeh, definitely an option.
07:36 <@Nostalg14c> Though i thought they did offer higher storage boxes anyway
07:36 < dark_shadow21> yea but it seems it would be cheaper to get on of the 5-10 dollar boxes
07:37 < dark_shadow21> https://www.hetzner.com/cloud
07:37 <+layer-eight> * dark_shadow21 →  ⚓  https://www.hetzner.com/cloud?country=ot → Truly thrifty cloud hosting - Hetzner Online GmbH
07:37 < hello_kitty> oh wow.. my beloved ansible playbook has finally run from begining to end :x i thought it would never happen
07:37 < dark_shadow21> grab the 4 euro box from here (Im usa tho)
07:37 < dark_shadow21> https://www.hetzner.com/storage-box
07:37 < dark_shadow21> then the 4 euro box from here
07:37 <+layer-eight> * dark_shadow21 →  ⚓  https://www.hetzner.com/storage-box?country=ot → Storage Box - Hetzner Online GmbH
07:37 < hello_kitty> thanks for the help :D
07:37 < togenshi> np
07:37 < dark_shadow21> but it doesn't say specifically that they can be linked
07:38 < dark_shadow21> thats only eight euros for alot more storage than the next VPS step up
07:38 < dark_shadow21> but I don't know by looking at the website what my options would be for connecting the two
07:39 < dark_shadow21> i have very basic VPS skills
07:39 < hello_kitty> wow those hetzner vps... 20 TB on the smallest plans..? hahaha
07:39 < dark_shadow21> exactly
07:39 < dark_shadow21> but its cheap cheap
07:40 < dark_shadow21> so if I could link one of their 4 euro VPS with the 4 euro storage plan I'd be set
07:40 < dark_shadow21> I want to make a VPS for hosting files between family members, photos and videos, maybe host an Owncloud
07:40 < dark_shadow21> but can I link those two services on hetzner?
07:40 < hello_kitty> i've been moving things to linode just to get the bandwidth pool bigger.. because i needed 15 TB :x
07:41 < dark_shadow21> the "cloud" (lol) vps and the "storage" box
07:42 < dark_shadow21> I have minimal needs, but i still need more than the 40 gb storage on the 4 euro VPS
07:43 < togenshi> i still wouldn't 100% trust cloud to store family records though
07:43 < dark_shadow21> nah I have backups at the house
07:43 < dark_shadow21> its mostly for transfering to out of state family
07:43 < dark_shadow21> much faster than hosting from my mouse
07:43 < dark_shadow21> house*
07:43 < dark_shadow21> and other projects
07:43 < dark_shadow21> not just that
07:44 < dark_shadow21> i mostly need to if the storage box supports some sort of linking that I can use to connect it to the VPS
07:44 < dark_shadow21> Webdav?
07:45 < dark_shadow21> I need it to kind of act like local storage on the VPS
07:45 < dark_shadow21> like say if use FTP to upload a file to the VPS, I want to be able to choose a location on the storage box
07:45 < Tecuane> CIFS
07:46 < dark_shadow21> there is a big box of supported technologies if you scroll down the page on this link https://www.hetzner.com/storage-box
07:46 <+layer-eight> * dark_shadow21 →  ⚓  https://www.hetzner.com/storage-box?country=ot → Storage Box - Hetzner Online GmbH
07:46 < Tecuane> CIFS ~= Samba
07:46 < Tecuane> It's what I used when I had a Hetzner setup.
07:46 < togenshi> please no
07:47 < dark_shadow21> so I can samba between my VPS and storage box ?
07:47 < togenshi> probably best to use syncbackpro or another file transfer/sync program
07:47 < dark_shadow21> the storage box looks like it supports FTP , so could I turn that into some kind of web folder that acts like a hard drive on the vps?
07:47 < togenshi> then use plex or something for streaming
07:48 < dark_shadow21> that services can access  like it was local to the VPS
07:48 < Tecuane> If you're using those things for Plex, the storage box will not be sufficient.
07:48 < Tecuane> Its link, for some reason, is not fast enough.
07:48 < dark_shadow21> I want to basically host files on it
07:48 < dark_shadow21> not plex
07:49 < dark_shadow21> i want to get the 4 euro VPS plan from hetzner and link it to the 4 dollar storage box
07:49 < dark_shadow21> and have the storage box basically be local storage somehow, even if its super fast. something like sshfs
07:50 < Tecuane> Are you just repeating yourself over and over
07:50 < dark_shadow21> but the storage box on hetzner does not support sshfs
07:50 < Tecuane> We understand the problem it's more the solution doesn't really exist in the eyes of literally most of the individuals in this channel
07:50 < Tecuane> I forget if the storage box supports SMBv3.3+
07:50 <@Nostalg14c> even if it does
07:50 < Tecuane> if it doesn't, you have no way to actually do any level of traffic encryption
07:50 <@Nostalg14c> you'll rape the transfer limit
07:50 <@Nostalg14c> on the mainbox
07:50 < dark_shadow21> no it says in network transfers don't affect transfer limit
07:50 < Tecuane> if it does, it's actually fine and people just don't like samba because rabble rabble rabble
07:51 < dark_shadow21> and the storage box and vps are on same network
07:51 < Tecuane> Yeah internal Hetzner traffic doesn't count.
07:51 < Tecuane> And neither does bandwidth in.
07:51 <@Nostalg14c> so its $8
07:51 < togenshi> cifs doesn't like high latency
07:51 < Tecuane> It's only bandwidth out, leaving Hetzner.
07:51 <@Nostalg14c> to ttest it out
07:51 <@Nostalg14c> give it a shot and see if it works
07:51 < Tecuane> If you're doing that, set your VPS in uh
07:51 < Tecuane> what options are they?
07:51 < Tecuane> Location
07:51 <@Nostalg14c> Germany.
07:51 < hello_kitty> you'll want them all german
07:51 < Tecuane> One of the DCs is the same DC as the storage boxes.
07:51 < Tecuane> ... I mean cities.
07:51 < Tecuane> Whatever one isn't Frankfurt.
07:51 < Tecuane> Because the storage boxes are in the other one.
07:52 < Tecuane> Turns out none of them are frankfurt wew lad
07:52 < Tecuane> Nuremburg is what I meant, put them in Falkenstein.
07:53 < dark_shadow21> so i should setup samba between the two?
07:53 < Tecuane> Your other options don't offer the ability to expose it to the OS as a drive, so yeah that's gonna be the best option.
07:55 < nohusuro> what's the latency like between servers?
07:55 < nohusuro> if it's low enough could always try iSCSI
07:55 < nohusuro> but only if it's suuuper low
07:55 < Tecuane> Is that available as an interface?
07:55 < nohusuro> like generally in the same datacenter
07:56 < dark_shadow21> no i don't see it in the support table
07:56 < Tecuane> Yeah, that's why I used Samba when I had this setup.
07:56 < Tecuane> I had the 2EUR box I think.
07:56 < Tecuane> I dropped it because the smbfs on FreeBSD is shite.
07:57 < Tecuane> It was 1/3 the speed of the Linux one, so I just threw it all away and bought a dedicated server with bicc disk.
07:57 < dark_shadow21> if I could find a vps for 10 dollars a month with 250gb of storage I might just settle for that
07:57 < dark_shadow21> but it seems like this is my cheapest option
07:57 < Tecuane> BuyVM have storage VPS'.
07:58 < Tecuane> The owner can be a tad... indifferent to your very existence but I can't fault the service.
07:59 < Tecuane> https://my.frantech.ca/cart.php?a=confproduct&i=0
07:59 <+layer-eight> * Tecuane →  ⚓  https://my.frantech.ca/cart.php → Shopping Cart - FranTech Solutions
07:59 < dark_shadow21> is it just for storage?
07:59 < Tecuane> No it's just a VPS with a big disk.
08:00 < dark_shadow21> okay cool because I was wanting to run openVPN as well on the box
08:00 <@Nostalg14c> DO have 250gb spaces for $5/m
08:00 < Tecuane> Wait, 250GB for $5?
08:00 < Tecuane> I thought it was $10/100GB.
08:00 <@Nostalg14c> object storage.
08:00 <@Nostalg14c> https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/#tab-storage
08:00 <+layer-eight> * Nostalg14c →  Pricing on DigitalOcean - Cloud virtual machine & storage pricing
08:00 <@Nostalg14c> May as well use s3 at that point, depends what you're doin.
08:01 < hello_kitty> are id_rsa/id_rsa.pub one key? can they be multiple?
08:01 < Tecuane> $0.02/GB beyond 250GB.
08:01 < nohusuro> .pub is the public key, the one without an extension is the private key
08:01 < nohusuro> pretty much always comes in two files
08:01 < nohusuro> because it wouldn't be called a "key-pair" optherwise
08:01 < hello_kitty> if i have multiple keys are they in there.. or are they separate files?
08:01 < nohusuro> otherwise*
08:01 < Tecuane> They're pairs.
08:01 < nohusuro> if it's a single key, it's probably a symmetric encryption key
08:02 < nohusuro> if you have multiple key pairs, they will have different file names
08:02 < dark_shadow21> frantech doesn't load right, googled them and got a redirct to buyvm
08:02 < Tecuane> dark_shadow21: BuyVM is their VPS brand.
08:02 < Tecuane> Frantech is the parent company.
08:02 < dark_shadow21> cheapest option on buyvm is 7.50 but it doesn' look too bad, do they offer overseas servers?
08:02 < Tecuane> Helpfully named after the owner Francisco.
08:02 < Tecuane> They have LV, somewhere else in the USA, and Luxembourg.
08:03 < nohusuro> Nostalg14c: it's $1.25 / month for 250GB on backblaze
08:03 < hello_kitty> i generated a keypair from linux on windows, and generated it into the windows part of the file system... which appears to have invalidated it b/c its permissions are bad
08:03 < nohusuro> it's more intended for infrequent access though
08:03 <@Nostalg14c> nohusuro: yum.
08:03 < nohusuro> https://www.backblaze.com/b2/cloud-storage-pricing.html
08:03 <+layer-eight> * nohusuro →  Cloud Storage Pricing Comparison: Amazon S3 vs Azure vs B2
08:04 < nohusuro> hello_kitty: firstly, windows subsystem for linux, or you are remoted into a linux machine from windows?
08:04 < nohusuro> I'm going to assume WSL
08:04 < hello_kitty> yeah WSL
08:04 < nohusuro> are you trying to set up SSH?
08:05 < nohusuro> or just generate a keypair you can use for your linux machines?
08:05 < hello_kitty> im trying to generate an ssh key for linux machines
08:05 < nohusuro> if you're setting up the windows machine to run as an SSH server
08:06 < hello_kitty> i'm running ansible in WSL, and putting its config/tasks/plays in windows
08:06 < nohusuro> you first need to generate the hostkey using an elevated prompt
08:06 < hello_kitty> i'm just trying to use windows as a control machine
08:06 < hello_kitty> I get this as the problem in the end: Permissions 0777 for '/mnt/c/Users/me/Desktop/test/ansible/id_rsa.pub' are too open.
08:06 < hello_kitty> i wonder if i can...change its permissions in WSL...? even tho its living in the windows file system
08:06 < nohusuro> yeah, 777 means every single person can read it
08:07 < nohusuro> you know anything about linux file perms?
08:07 < Tecuane> chmod 0700 /mnt/c/Users/me/Desktop/test/ansible/id_rsa{,.pub}
08:07 < Tecuane> or even 0600
08:07 < hello_kitty> i know the very basics.. i am confused why the key i generated in linux works, and the key i generated in linux but moved to windows does not work
08:08 < Tecuane>  There are some quirks with crossing the WSL boundary still.
08:08 < Tecuane> Quirks like this.
08:08 < hello_kitty> oh well if that's it, that's manageable
08:08 < hello_kitty> i thought i was corrupting files
08:08 < nohusuro> nah, the permissions are just too open, as the error said
08:08 < Tecuane> No, it's just not able to interpret the permissions because NT and Linux use a different permissions model.
08:08 < Tecuane> I think crossing the boundary from WSL to host sets it to 0777.
08:09 < javi404> if you work at wakefern, fix your damn site.
08:09 < hello_kitty> hmm maybe i cant change its permissions
08:10 < hello_kitty> is there a verbose mode on chmod?
08:10 < nohusuro> you can stat <file>
08:10 < javi404> chmod -R user.group item_or_folder_you_are_changing_perms_for
08:10 < hello_kitty> it seems stuck on 0777
08:11 < javi404> this is local?
08:11 < javi404> remote file system?
08:11 < javi404> nfs? cifs ?
08:11 < nohusuro> hello_kitty: why are your keys on your desktop anyway?
08:11 < nohusuro> they should be in %userprofile%\.ssh
08:11 < javi404> sorry if i missed anything, just showing up
08:11 < hello_kitty> its local... but im in WSL and ive navigated to the windows file system via the mount point
08:11 < javi404> so its NTFS
08:12 < javi404> not EXT4 or some other POSIX compatable system.
08:12 < javi404> your mount options for this NTFS file system are probably set to default to 0777
08:12 < hello_kitty> i think chmod 0700 id_rsa just silently fials
08:12 < nohusuro> hello_kitty: put them in your .ssh folder
08:12 < nohusuro> and WSL will probably work just fine
08:13 < javi404> move keys to a non windows file system and like nohusuro said, into .ssh folder
08:13 < nohusuro> seeing as that's where most linux systems look for keys anyway
08:13 < hello_kitty> do you think i can copy these keys *to* the linux system, or is that asking to brick the whole thing
08:13 < hello_kitty> actually im not even gonna try it
08:14 < togenshi> try get-acl
08:14 < togenshi> in powershell
08:14 < togenshi> and move all but your own
08:14 < Tecuane> hello_kitty: Yeah you can do that no prob.
08:14 < Tecuane> From the WSL bashprompt
08:14 < hello_kitty> the only machine these keys can access is a fresh vps that im using to learn ansible
08:14 < Tecuane> cp /mnt/c/Users/you/path/to/wherever/that/keypair/was ~/
08:14 < hello_kitty> so i think im just gonna make the keys over gain, and stick to linux
08:15 < hello_kitty> i have a fear of copying keys lmao
08:15 < hello_kitty> i have bricked so many things
08:15 < nohusuro> why? :S
08:15 < Tecuane> s/cp/mv/
08:15 <+layer-eight> [SED Tecuane] mv /mnt/c/Users/you/path/to/wherever/that/keypair/was ~/
08:15 < nohusuro> learn from your mistakes?
08:15 < nohusuro> :P
08:15 < Tecuane> thx botboi
08:16 < hello_kitty> all i learned was dont paste keys given to you by windows users into nano while editing stuff in .ssh if ur a newbie like me
08:16 < nohusuro> there's a reason commands line ssh-add exist
08:16 <@Nostalg14c> ssh-copy-id
08:16 < nohusuro> that one ^
08:17 < hello_kitty> that's the part i always get stuck on... like when someone sends you an ssh key ridiculously in a chat message or osmething
08:17 < Tecuane> cat >> authorized_keys
08:17 < Tecuane> <cmd v><return><^D>
08:17 < Tecuane> fearless™
08:17 < hello_kitty> okay fine y'all have made me brave. time to brick WSL
08:18 < nohusuro> Tecuane: I prefer the cat << EOF >> <file>
08:20 < hello_kitty> how do you like to name your sshkeys?
08:20 < hello_kitty> id_someproduct?
08:21 < nohusuro> I don't have so many keys that I've had to really worry about it
08:21 < nohusuro> mine are usually id_rsa_user
08:21 < hello_kitty> but ur not calling them id_rsa2 ar eu?
08:21 < hello_kitty> ic
08:21 < nohusuro> $user
08:22 < nohusuro> not much point naming them after a service or product in-case you decide you use one in multiple locations
08:22 < nohusuro> like, I have one id file for my work account which auths to gitlab and I used for GPG to verify package signaures
08:22 < xe0n> nawwtt hawwttt dog
08:22 < nohusuro> signatures
08:22 < nohusuro> then another for my dedi
08:25 < hello_kitty> okay i got the keys into linux and 0600 (b/c thats how the other keys look).. do i need to do something else to uhm.. get them working?
08:25 < hello_kitty> i still cant ssh
08:25 < hello_kitty> not sure if i corrupted them
08:26 < nohusuro> did you add the public key to your authorized_hosts on the remote server?
08:26 < hello_kitty> oh.. actually.. the user on the remote server is different than the user locally
08:26 < hello_kitty> they are on the remote server, yea
08:27 < hello_kitty> i think i might fundamentally not grok linux users now that im starting to use more than one
08:27 < nohusuro> authorized_keys *
08:29 < hello_kitty> i have two different users with the same key now, i think
08:30 < plop> morning!
08:30 < nohusuro> then you specify the username in your SSH connection
08:30 < nohusuro> ssh user@host
08:30 < nohusuro> or ssh user@host -i <key_file>
08:30 < nohusuro> if you want to be specific about which file to use
08:30 < hello_kitty> who am i trying to be? the remote user but with the newly copied local key..?
08:31 < nohusuro> how are we to know who you're trying to be
08:31 < nohusuro> you should know that
08:31 < hello_kitty> haha
08:31 <@Nostalg14c> https://news.microsoft.com/features/under-the-sea-microsoft-tests-a-datacenter-thats-quick-to-deploy-could-provide-internet-connectivity-for-years/
08:31 <+layer-eight> * Nostalg14c →  Under the sea, Microsoft tests a datacenter that’s quick to deploy, could provide internet connectivity for years | Stories
08:32 < nohusuro> you generally add your public key to the authorized_keys of the account your trying to access remotely
08:32 < hello_kitty> i did that part, its just that i named that account something other than my local account
08:32 < nohusuro> so if you want to login as root with your keys, you'd add your public key to roots ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file
08:32 < hello_kitty> also it may have been corrupted by this whole windows thing
08:32 < nohusuro> then you can login with ssh root@host
08:32 < hello_kitty> atleast its telling me that id_rsa.pub has an invalid format
08:32 < nohusuro> well that's a pretty good indicator
08:33 < jay-ros> new personal record: exchange load balancer x 2 and redundancy across them both, knocked up in 1 hour 3 minutes
08:33 < nohusuro> it's pretty hard to corrupt a public key though
08:33 < jay-ros> (also tested conditions for it0
08:33 < nohusuro> it's plain text after all
08:33 < hello_kitty> hmm i can open it in WSL with nano and it looks like its okay
08:34 < nohusuro> hello_kitty: does your pub file look like "ssh-rsa AAAA........somestuffhere.... <email>/<user>"
08:34 < nohusuro> or does it look more like -------- BEGIN CERTIFICATE ------
08:35 < hello_kitty> the pub starts with ssh-rsa AAAA
08:35 < hello_kitty> what were you saying about authorized_keys *
08:35 < hello_kitty> maybe i skipped a step
08:35 < hello_kitty> all i did was copy the things form windows to wsl .ssh/ and give them new names
08:35 < nohusuro> you don't want to copy all the files
08:35 < nohusuro> just the pub files
08:36 < nohusuro> you don't want your private keys on the server
08:36 < nohusuro> also, you don't copy the files
08:36 < nohusuro> you add the content of the public key to your authorized_keys file in .ssh
08:36 < hello_kitty> i dont seem to have that
08:37 < nohusuro> as Nostalg14c pointed out earlier, it's just easier to use ssh-copy-id from WSL
08:37 < hello_kitty> my .ssh is two key pairs and a known hosts file
08:37 < Wannabejrsysadm> hello boyz
08:37 < hello_kitty> i generated a new key from scratch to see what it looks like.. and its permissions are different than what i copied.. maybe that is it
08:37 < hello_kitty> fresh key is -rw-r--r--
08:38 < nohusuro> you should read through this
08:38 < nohusuro> https://www.ssh.com/ssh/copy-id
08:38 <+layer-eight> * nohusuro →  Ssh-copy-id for copying SSH keys to servers | SSH.COM
08:38 < nohusuro> it seems you ahve some general gaps in your knowledge
08:39 < Wannabejrsysadm> GUYS "Listing in Sectoor Exitnodes indiates that your IP address has been identified as a tor node. This blacklist only reports identified tor nodes, it does not list subnets (/24) containing tor nodes"
08:39 < Wannabejrsysadm> I got a warning from mxtoolbox that my IP was listed in Sectoor EXITNODES
08:39 < Wannabejrsysadm> claimaing we have been identified as a tor node ? O_o
08:39 <+ihre> time for the partyvan
08:39 < nohusuro> Wannabejrsysadm: are you running an exit node?
08:39 < Wannabejrsysadm> I don't even know what an exit node is
08:40 < nohusuro> https://check.torproject.org/cgi-bin/TorBulkExitList.py?ip=1.1.1.1
08:40 <+layer-eight> * nohusuro →  TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=UTF-8 Document, 0 bytes
08:40 < nohusuro> is your IP in here?
08:40 < nohusuro> is your IP also dynamic from your ISP?
08:40 < Wannabejrsysadm> it is not
08:40 < Wannabejrsysadm> IP is not in there
08:40 < Wannabejrsysadm> and we have a static range
08:41 < Wannabejrsysadm> So I shouldn't worry
08:41 < Wannabejrsysadm> since its not in that list
08:43 <@Nostalg14c> That Sectoor Exitnodes shit is offline.
08:43 <@Nostalg14c> So they probably dun goofed something.
08:43 <@Nostalg14c> Then took it offline.
08:43 < hello_kitty> nohusuro: thanks, got it working :D
08:44 < hello_kitty> i was trying to ssh with the pub, and i needed to ssh with the private... if im understanding now
08:51 < hello_kitty> the only part that i think remains weird is that ssh on my local machine doesnt know which key to try when connecting to the remote, so i end up with ssh cooluser@123.123.123.123 -i ~/.ssh/id_coolKey
08:54 <+ktechmidas> Looking through a doc for one of our submissions... "The goal of XXXXX is not only to advance the data cloud platform but also to unite other standalone data clouds under a unified protocol"
08:54 <+ktechmidas> just reminds me of https://xkcd.com/927/
08:54 <+layer-eight> * ktechmidas →  xkcd: Standards
08:54 < hello_kitty> is there a command to get the ssh key into the ssh_config as an IdentityFile asides from just.. editing it myself
08:55 <+ktechmidas> "So let me get this straight... you're a small startup, don't even have an office yet... and want to take out the big boys in cloud computing as your *first task*?!"
08:56 < nohusuro> hello_kitty: that's because by default ssh will look for id_rsa
08:56 < nohusuro> if you only have the one key, just rename it to that
08:57 < hello_kitty> i've got a few.. i see the line to change to have it search through them all, but im gonna double check if there is a more sanctioned way to add them
08:57 <+ktechmidas> hello_kitty, I usually just use -i
08:57 <+ktechmidas> lazy
08:57 < hello_kitty> yea that's what i'm using atm
08:57 <+ktechmidas> most of my stuff just uses one key anyway
08:57 <+ktechmidas> which is also lazy
08:57 < nohusuro> if it's a bit of a hassle for you, make an alias for it
08:58 <+ktechmidas> ssh-agent
08:58 <+ktechmidas> does work
08:58 <+ktechmidas> although it's a pain to setup
08:58 <+ktechmidas> you have to reload bash with ssh-agent... and do all sorts of magic
08:58 < nohusuro> I use gpg-agent on my windows machine to get my yubikey working through putty
08:58 < nohusuro> it's a fun setup
08:58 < nohusuro> just pops up and asks for my yubikey pin unlock code
08:58 <+ktechmidas> I have a Ledger Nano that I can use... apparantly it can decode a RSA keypair
08:59 <+ktechmidas> but I haven't tested it yet
08:59 <+ktechmidas> and I'd rather keep my identity seperate from crypto holdings
08:59 <+ktechmidas> something about using them together doesn't sit right for me
08:59 < nohusuro> hello_kitty: you can use your .ssh/config file to make host aliases
09:00 < nohusuro> ssh --help
09:00 < nohusuro> whoops, wrong window
09:00 < hello_kitty> its got them all listed as IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_rsa etc (in /etc/ssh/ssh_config) i'm sure if i edit it, it'll search through all the keys
09:01 < nohusuro> hello_kitty: nah I'm talking about on your windows machine
09:01 < nohusuro> where your private key is stored
09:01 < nohusuro> usually in %userprofile%\.ssh\
09:01 < nohusuro> you can create a file called config and put host aliases in there
09:01 < hello_kitty> oh, i removed all the keys from windows b/c ansible seemed upset
09:01 < nohusuro> https://coderwall.com/p/dou7uw/multiple-aliases-on-every-entry-of-ssh-s-config-file
09:01 <+layer-eight> * nohusuro →  Multiple aliases on every entry of SSH's config file (Example)
09:01 <+ktechmidas> hello_kitty, it doesn't work with directories
09:01 <+ktechmidas> I tried that a while back
09:01 < nohusuro> what? how are you SSHing with a key if you removed them all?
09:02 < hello_kitty> i'm entering WSL, and then using the keys from the linux user
09:15 < hello_kitty> okay found a somewhat simple solution... run  eval "$(ssh-agent)"  (not sure what that does tbh), and then after that the command ssh-add ~/path/to/private-key
09:15 < hello_kitty> and then any keys that have been added to the ssh agent are tried when connecting
09:15 < hello_kitty> automagicz
09:18 < hello_kitty> also comes with the option to no longer type the passphrase
09:18 < togenshi> argh people should know the consequences of moving their emails to their local pst store
09:18 < nohusuro> hello_kitty: which isn't always a good thing
09:18 < hello_kitty> ive never used one :/
09:19 < hello_kitty> should i?
09:19 < nohusuro> you should, really. If your keys aren't passphrase protected and someone gets your private key, they have unfettered access to all of your servers there that key is used.
09:19 < nohusuro> You should protect your private keys at all costs.
09:20 < nohusuro> also, if you want to understand ssh-agent, https://www.ssh.com/ssh/agent
09:20 <+layer-eight> * nohusuro →  ssh-agent - How to configure, forwarding, protocol. | SSH.COM
09:20 < nohusuro> that website has a bunch of useful info for all ssh related things
09:20 < hello_kitty> if  they do get the key (and it has a passphrase) then i have awhile to change the keys right? presuming they're bothering to bruteforce the passphrase
09:20 < nohusuro> yeah
09:29 < Apooti_> mornin'
09:32 < Tzunamii> Morning
10:51 < plop> so, mx-blue or mx-brown
10:52 <+ihre> brown
10:53 < plop> yeah. those are the ones i'm using
10:55 <+ihre> https://deskthority.net/wiki/Hysteresis
10:55 <+layer-eight> * ihre →  Hysteresis - Deskthority wiki
10:55 < jumi> morning
10:55 < plop> hey jumi
10:55 <+ihre> that is what blue switches have, im not a fan, also noisey :3
10:55 <+ihre> hey jumi
10:55 < plop> ihre, lol
10:56 < jumi> ihre: why not a fan? what do you recommend?
10:57 < jumi> I might be thinking of buying a new mech keyboard
10:57 < jumi> for the office
10:57 <+ihre> plop: "Excessive hysteresis will make tapping the same key twice in succession difficult"
10:58 <+ihre> also, if you ever spill water over a keyboard with blue switches, it'll be a pain in the ass to clean it, since it will get in between the moving parts inside of the switch
10:58 < plop> ihre, yes, i've read that. my browns are fine. they noiser that whatever membrane keyboard in the office, but it is ok. i wonder how much noisy mx-blue are.
10:58 <+ihre> ruining your keyboard :)
10:59 < agent_white> I went with mx-clears for my one for the office... had browns before and figured it would be a bit quieter. I can't do blues... I mash too much when I type fast.
10:59 <+ihre> very noisy
10:59 < plop> ihre, i see
10:59 <+ihre> mx clears are nice, but not as 'easily' available as brown/blue/red/black switches
10:59 < agent_white> Blues are just fuckin obnoxiously noisy.
11:00 < plop> clears are the heavy ones?
11:00 < agent_white> Yessir.
11:00 <+ihre> basically mx brown, with heavier springs, and a little bit of a bigger notch
11:01 < plop> so, i also mash the keys a lot, so do you recomend them'
11:01 < agent_white> I'm going with greens or super blacks I think next.
11:01 < agent_white> Entirely yes. If you type fast, I would recommend them.
11:01 <+ihre> greens are as obnoxious as blues, they have the same design with heavier springs :|
11:01 < agent_white> ihre: Then super blacks it is!
11:02 <+ihre> 0 feedback is the worst imo :^)
11:02 < plop> i'll check if i can get some clears then. with ISO :D
11:02 <+ihre> yeah, that might be an issue :p
11:02 <+ihre> s/issue/problem
11:02 <+layer-eight> [SED ihre] yeah, that might be an problem :p
11:03 <+ihre> plop: can you solder?
11:03 < plop> ihre, yeah.. i could.
11:03 < plop> i can order in wasd keyboards though
11:03 <+ihre> ah didnt think of WASD
11:04 <+ihre> well, if you're looking for a fun project, https://imgur.com/a/Dms4V
11:04 <+layer-eight> * ihre →  Private Imgur Album
11:04 <+ihre> i've built a phantom keyboard, tenkeyless once
11:04 <+ihre> the pcb supports both iso and ansi
11:04 <+ihre> and that is with mx clears
11:05 <+ihre> https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=536
11:05 <+layer-eight> * ihre →  Phantom PCB Dual Layer Tenkeyless Electrical Board by Teel
11:05 <+ihre> they sell kits iirc
11:05 <+ihre> at least, they used to
11:05 <+ihre> "Phantom TKL Kit (MK) Availability: Out of Stock" bah
11:06 < plop> haha too much work for me i believe. but i'll check it
11:06 < plop> also, disassemble the switches and lubricate?
11:07 <+ihre> yeah, the person i built it for asked for it
11:07 < agent_white> I really want a Smallfry or a Minivan so bad... decided to go the cheaper-route and test 40% with a Vortex... goddamned nightmare to program.
11:10 < genr8__> 100 Diodes (1N4148)
11:10 < genr8__> err why. you tellin me they had to require 100 odd diodes and NOT make them into LED slots ?
11:11 < genr8__> (the Phantom 40% keyboard)
11:11 < jumi> ihre: what do you recommend for office use, browns, reds? blues would make my coworkers want to kill me so they're out of the picture
11:12 <+ihre> jumi: reds are silent, browns and clears arent very noisy imo
11:13 < plop> i like the tactile bump
11:15 < jumi> ihre: I have blacks at home and for typing during 8hs I think it's going to be too heavy
11:16 < jumi> are browns much noisier than reds?
11:16 < jumi> worst case scenario, could I O-Ring them?
11:16 < genr8__> well then this sorta answered my question http://www.40percent.club/2016/07/diodes.html
11:16 <+layer-eight> * genr8__ →  40% Keyboards: Diodes
11:16 < jumi> or would the feel change too much
11:21 < agent_white> Clears are a bit quieter than reds... just judging from the youtoob vids I listened to, reds/browns sound evenly similar? Seems like reds are closer to blues clickyness?
11:21 < agent_white> Clears definitely more silent than both of those though.
11:22 < agent_white> I like bottoming out my keys though, feels more like Model M clackers :)
11:22 < agent_white> ihre: Have you tried Topres? And if so what are they like?
11:25 < plop> topres are expensive...
11:25 < vader-> too funny, miss america is getting rid of the swimsuit competition...
11:25 < vader-> That will work, just like when playboy got rid of the nudes...
11:28 < agent_white> vader-: Pfft, won't change, Miss America was a model competition, _never_ judged off their physique /s
11:30 <+ihre> agent_white: yeah, i have a realforce tkl at home
11:31 <+ihre> best keyboard i have, and i've owned/tested quite a lot :P
11:32 < agent_white> Hrm. So with my favorite being mx-clears or Model-M-like clackers, would I like them?
11:33 <+ihre> i think so, next fav of mine is mx clears (ergo clears, changed springs, lubricated)
11:33 <+ihre> i found that realforce on r/mechmarket
11:34 <+ihre> i'd still like to try a HHKB
11:34 < plop> realforce are the ones in the cooler master?
11:34 <+ihre> uhm, the novatouch?
11:34 < agent_white> HHKB I was tempted, but after using this p0k3r I don't want anything more than a 60% :)
11:35 <+ihre> https://i.imgur.com/BmzHC8s.jpg i still have that one, almost hhkb layout, but with ergo clear switches
11:35 <+layer-eight> * ihre →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 880,246 bytes
11:36 <+ihre> should put it on that mechmarket, will fetch a nice price :P
11:37 <+ihre> https://i.imgur.com/wFYxP8b.jpg sold that one for 950$ to someone in the states :p
11:37 <+layer-eight> * ihre →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 3,565,572 bytes
11:37 < plop> crazy
11:38 < jumi> 950$????
11:38 < jumi> holy shit
11:39 < jumi> ihre: what does it say on the plaque?
11:39 <+ihre> Jane, number 13 of 20
11:41 < jumi> are those made by you? completely?
11:42 <+ihre> no, some guy in malaysia, tgr is the brand, that is his first model, started with an interest check (kind of like kickstarter/indigogo), i got in early, 20 spots, got it for 450$, assembled it, didnt really liked it and put it back on mechmarket at 650$
11:43 <+ihre> and that turned into a silent auction through PMs :p
11:59 <+ktechmidas> wonder if anyone here in China wants to make replicas...
12:01 <+ihre> ktechmidas: of what, those keyboards?
12:01 <+ktechmidas> Yeah... I mean uh... copyright is important and I wouldn't dream of getting one for 1/20th of the costr
12:01 <+ktechmidas> :D
12:02 <+ihre> well, for instance, http://blog.komar.be/projects/gh60-programmable-keyboard/ is 'cloned' as https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/Gh60-mechanical-keyboard-pcb-for-mechanical-keyboard-prue-poker2-hhkb-refires/32678428492.html
12:02 <+layer-eight> * ihre →  Satan GH60 PCB Wit Board LED DIY Mechanische Toetsenbord porker2 hhkb pure met Diode Weerstand gh60 plaat keycaps led in Satan GH60 PCB Wit Board LED DIY Mechanische Toetsenbord porker2 hhkb pure met Diode Weerstand gh60 plaat keycaps led van Toetsenbo...
12:02 <+layer-eight> * ihre →  GH60 programmable keyboard | komar's techblog
12:03 <+ihre> so sure, they are being made, but they also sell it for half the price, and tbh, i guess most will pay 'the premium' price for the real version, I used to be the same (although i have one of those fake versions from aliexpress :p)
12:03 < katnip> morning
12:03 <+ihre> bbl, demo time
12:04 <+ktechmidas> ihre, yeah... I used to have one of the local phones
12:04 <+ktechmidas> just dropped a fair amount on an iPhone X + watch
12:04 <+ktechmidas> wanted something that would keep it's price in case crypto keeps dying :P
12:35 < Hempux> Hey team
12:37 < Hempux> I have yet to hear back from miss Knight so i guess that email i got about her hacking my webcam and threatening to send pics of me beating the meat to my friends and family must've been a ruse
12:46 < jumi> ihre: lol so you made money on it and everything, nice
13:09 <+ihre> jumi: haha yeah, same with that other board though, i got it for 350, i think i could sell it for 650-700
13:09 <+ihre> havent used it for a while either
13:10 < jumi> nice
13:10 < Nightcinder> https://i.imgur.com/JZ189uB.jpg
13:10 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 416,934 bytes
13:10 < Nightcinder> rap..snacks..
13:11 <+ihre> http://savoynetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/SodaShaq_LineUp-640x300.jpeg :p
13:11 <+layer-eight> * ihre →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 112,011 bytes
13:11 < Nightcinder> yeah but shaq is a lil different than 'rap snacks'
13:11 < FenJai> What do you guys use to check mail server reputation across multiple black lists ?
13:11 < Nightcinder> doesn't mxtoolbox do that
13:12 < FenJai> IS that all or are there any others ?
13:13 < Nightcinder> that i don't know
13:16 <+ihre> i often use https://www.mail-tester.com/
13:16 <+layer-eight> * ihre →  Newsletters spam test by mail-tester.com
14:11 <+NinjaStyle> +1 for mail tester
14:12 <+NinjaStyle> Mxtoolbox also has the blacklist checker
14:17 < misspwn> mxtoolbox has nice features
14:20 < asimon> Good morning friends
14:21 < Bru-> morn
14:27 < Bru-> anyone have any i7-2600's they wanna part with?
14:28 <+ktechmidas> "Hey man, you remember you came last week and told us to get an AV on the computers to pass that certification?" "Yeah..." "Well, we installed one and passed but we came in this morning and all the computers seem to playing Bring Me To Life" "... The Evanescence song?" "That's the one, our internal IT told downloaded something last week to pass the AV checks and they're not going to
14:28 <+ktechmidas> be in for another 5 hours, can you come help?"
14:29 < asimon> lol
14:29 <+NinjaStyle> Wat
14:30 < FenJai> waaat
14:31 <+ktechmidas> their internal IT is a local chinese firm... they prefer their software (QQ, 360 AV, the kind of stuff I wouldn't touch with a bargepole)
14:31 <+ktechmidas> but they charge 10% of my rates so they usually go for them
14:33 <+ktechmidas> luckily (or unluckily...) I got this call at 3am.... so I charge 3x normal
14:34 <+ktechmidas> ended up blasting all the computers and reimaging them... servers to 3 days ago backups
14:35 <+ktechmidas> was an easy fix though... 3 hours total, billed for 4
14:35 <+ktechmidas> and taxis
14:35 < Wannabejrsysadm> Hello boys, anyone that can help with with FILEZILLA?
14:35 < Wannabejrsysadm> I can connect but can't start Passive mode
14:35 < Wannabejrsysadm> even tho its from my laptop in LAN to server in LAN ?
14:35 <+ktechmidas> firewall Wannabejrsysadm?
14:36 < Wannabejrsysadm> i opened port 21 on my ftp server
14:36 <+ktechmidas> usually passive uses some insanely high ports
14:36 <+ktechmidas> yeah, that's active only
14:36 <+ktechmidas> why are you using FTP?>
14:36 < Wannabejrsysadm> stupid time clocking uses ftp to store backups
14:37 <+ktechmidas> I think there's a way on the server to tell it to use specific ports
14:37 <+ktechmidas> like 50000-50005 or something
14:37 <+ktechmidas> but that depends on the server
14:37 < Wannabejrsysadm> ye
14:37 < Wannabejrsysadm> but i thought passive wasn't needed when your inside the same LAN ?
14:37 < SynMonger> unless you're behind nat on your lan there's no need for passive anyway
14:37 < Wannabejrsysadm> only behind NAT ?
14:37 < Wannabejrsysadm> see ?
14:38 < Wannabejrsysadm> so why is it trying to do passive ?
14:38 < SynMonger> but data runs on port 20 in active ftp
14:38 < Wannabejrsysadm> TCP 20, 21 are opened
14:39 < Wannabejrsysadm> inbound and outbound connections ?
14:39 < Nightcinder> someone buy me that new intel chip
14:39 < Nightcinder> the 28 core 5ghz
14:39 < Nightcinder> tyvm
14:40 < Nightcinder> it needs a simple phase change cooler nbd
14:43 <@cryptic1> morning
14:43 < plop> sup cryptic1
14:43 < Wannabejrsysadm> found it :)
14:43 < Wannabejrsysadm> I had to add Filezilla server.exe to windows firewall exceptions aswel
14:43 < Wannabejrsysadm> next to opening the ports 20 and 21
14:45 < Jekotia> I. Hate. Users.
14:45 < Jekotia> Employee powered down their Windows PC during updates, when it explicitly states not to turn off your PC. Now it won't boot.
14:45 < Jekotia> I point this out, complete surprise.
14:46 <@Code_Man65> Jekotia:  Doesn't surprise me
14:47 < asimon> Jekotia: Welcome to hell
15:09 < McDonaldsWiFi> last week or so I've had some seriousl eye discomfort and sensitivity to light
15:09 < McDonaldsWiFi> today I struggled to drive to work cause the light hurt so much, so I caleld my eye doc finally
15:10 < McDonaldsWiFi> and she freaked out, wanted to see me NOW lol
15:10 < McDonaldsWiFi> might be going blind boys
15:10 < McDonaldsWiFi> been a good run
15:10 < asimon> shit
15:10 < asimon> do they have text to speech for irc yet
15:10 < McDonaldsWiFi> i can't even go til tomorrow, fml
15:11 < McDonaldsWiFi> I think i'm gonna go take my contacts out now..
15:12 < vinrock> my synology finally died from the atom clock signal bug
15:12 < vinrock> made it 3yr2mos
15:12 < vinrock> rip in pieces
15:17 < Hatsjoe> McDonaldsWiFi: wait what? your doc wanted to see you NOW but you can't come in till tomorrow?
15:17 < McDonaldsWiFi> atom clock sig bug?
15:17 < McDonaldsWiFi> Hatsjoe: yeah I've got like 3 appointments for serious things today
15:17 < McDonaldsWiFi> 1 is an interview, ill just squint my way through it lol
15:17 < Hatsjoe> Ah so you can't come in, thought you meant your doc has no space for you today :P
15:17 < McDonaldsWiFi> another is a cert exam :(
15:17 < McDonaldsWiFi> nah
15:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> wel they didn't, tell I told her i wore contacts
15:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> and she was like.. yeah we will make room lol
15:18 < Hatsjoe> Would be a dick move, we want you to come in NOW.. BUt eh, we won't have any slots available till tomorrow, okbye
15:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
15:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> nah man my eye doc is great
15:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> he's kind of like Dr. House if you are familiar with the show
15:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> he's a slight dick, but he's great at his job. I love it lol
15:19 < Hatsjoe> Hehehe
15:22 < ebol4> h-hewwo
15:26 < abakedapplepie> OwO
15:26 < JollyRgrs> some days just need a round of The Offspring
15:26 < abakedapplepie> i have really been digging that offspring cover
15:26 < abakedapplepie> of so far away
15:26 < JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: link?
15:27 < abakedapplepie> its by five finger death punch
15:27 < abakedapplepie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSwewlSkIXU
15:27 < JollyRgrs> oh
15:27 <+layer-eight> * abakedapplepie →  YouTube → Five Finger Death Punch - Gone Away (Lyric Video) → ⚘ 11,587,665 ↑ 101,252 ↓ 4,930 ✍ 5,387
15:27 < abakedapplepie> i am not usually one to say i like something by them
15:27 < JollyRgrs> so it's a ffdp of the offspring
15:27 < syere> I've dealt with hundreds of servers. Countless odd configurations, all kinds of strange automation. But buying a house is the single most frustrating thing ever, and damn does it fry your brain
15:27 < abakedapplepie> but gone away is one of my favorite offspring songs
15:27 < abakedapplepie> and i like what they did with it
15:28 < abakedapplepie> i like all the covers five finger death punch has been putting out lately
15:28 < JollyRgrs> hmm, that album also has a cover of house of the rising sun?
15:28 < abakedapplepie> yep
15:28 < abakedapplepie> also good
15:28 < JollyRgrs> abnd bad company is a cover or their own song?
15:29 < abakedapplepie> not sure
15:29 <@Code_Man65> Bad Company is a cover of Bad Company by Bad Company
15:29 <@Code_Man65> Personally, I hate their cover of it
15:29 < abakedapplepie> not sure if ive heard it
15:29 < abakedapplepie> oh wait yes i have
15:30 < JollyRgrs> hm... this gone away cover... not really diggin it
15:30 < abakedapplepie> yeah listening to it now i dont really so much either
15:30 < abakedapplepie> but every time i hear it on the radio i like it
15:30 < JollyRgrs> too heavy on drums/bass i think... and the speed isn't right with THEIR tone of the song
15:31 < felda> Neat Fact:  I over heard Code_Man65 describe his hands as "hairy and uncut"
15:31 < JollyRgrs> hmm...
15:31 < abakedapplepie> yeah i havent trimmed my fingers in a while either
15:31 < JollyRgrs> so far not impressed w/ house of rising son.... and he's just whistling
15:31 <@Code_Man65> I actually cut my fingernails this last weekend
15:31 < JollyRgrs> i cut mine on monday morning
15:32  * JollyRgrs is feeling like he needs to queue up the animals to make right of this wrong :(
15:32 < JollyRgrs> and thet whole "down in sin city" instead of new orleans is just... dumb
15:33 < vinrock> (9:17:15 AM) McDonaldsWiFi: atom clock sig bug?
15:33 < JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: i'm not being impressed by your suggestion :(
15:33 < vinrock> yeah Intel Atom C2758's die prematurely from a clock signal errata bug
15:33 < br14> "br14, please arrange inhous training for $software with $vendor".  2 months pass, training is next week the department is dissolved, noone is doing the job that training is required for :/  $vendor will be onsite next week..
15:33 < vinrock> they basically eat themselves alive
15:33 <+A-KO> god fucking damnit I hate IT
15:33 <+A-KO> NOT EVERY PROBLEM IS FUCKING WINDOWS, YOU IDIOTS
15:33 < ebol4> that clown scary
15:33  * A-KO screams into the void
15:33 < felda> vinrock you yanking my chain?
15:33 < JollyRgrs> bad company so far is the least bad cover on that album
15:33 < vinrock> not at all, im surprised you gont know about this
15:34 < vinrock> leme find link
15:34 < JollyRgrs> br14: and no one thought to say "cancel the meeting"? (including yourself)
15:34 < vinrock> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/06/cisco_intel_decline_to_link_product_warning_to_faulty_chip/
15:34 < felda> RIP my firewall https://i.imgur.com/CWXVuWT.png
15:34 <+layer-eight> * felda →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 16,271 bytes
15:34 < vinrock> https://www.auvik.com/media/blog/vendors-clock-signal-flaw-intel-atom-c2000/
15:34 <+layer-eight> * vinrock →  Clock Signal issue: These Are the Vendors and Devices Affected by Intel Atom C2000 Chips
15:34 < vinrock> https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/atom-c2000-family-spec-update.pdf
15:34 < JollyRgrs> A-KO: wait, is there a windows server on the same VM Host as the problematic issue?
15:34 < br14> JollyRgrs: oh I did, leadership wants it to go on.  But no-one is invited.
15:34 < JollyRgrs> must be windwos
15:34 <+layer-eight> * vinrock →  APPLICATION/PDF;CHARSET=UTF-8 Document, 1 bytes
15:34 < JollyRgrs> br14: ....
15:34 < JollyRgrs> wow
15:34 < br14> If I attend does this become part of my job?
15:35 < JollyRgrs> attend, ask them to take you out to lunch on their corp card
15:35 < JollyRgrs> go home
15:35 < br14> I'm sure as shit not wanting more duties.  yeah, maybe we can 'train' at the bar.
15:35 < vinrock> The chips seem to make it ~3yrs in service before taking a shit
15:35 <+A-KO> JollyRgrs: no? dunno what you're talking about, lol. It's an issue we've got at work in our EU offices. They seem to be automatically blaming Windows, when the problem is likely to be network (it affects only the EU offices, none of the US ones)
15:35 < vinrock> and when it happens it's abrupt, mine suddenly died within 24h
15:35 <+A-KO> and it's because everyone automatically assumes a Microsoft update broke something
15:36 <+A-KO> when it REALLY sounds like a network config issue to me
15:36 < JollyRgrs> A-KO: just saying if they can remotely say that windows in involved, they'll blame windows
15:36 < JollyRgrs> even though normally network is teh first place i finger point
15:36 <+A-KO> true :/
15:36 < br14> A-KO: surely you mean a network config issue caused by windows update
15:36 <+A-KO> it's 2 offices, and basically from a cold boot Windows doesn't appear to have a network yet, resulting in GPO processing failures, etc. To me, it sounds like STP configuration issues.
15:36 < JollyRgrs> br14: now you're dragging SCCM into this. i don't like you
15:37 < br14> all hail mighty sccm.
15:37 <+A-KO> and so I asked for the network config, and the guy randomly grabs some random switch port and is like "here's the config, see?" and I'm like "I want the switch port config of the specific machine having an issue."
15:37 <+A-KO> and someone was like 'I hihgly doubt he would return just a random port", and literally the port is "GigabitEthernet1/0/1" which means he just grabbed the first port of some random switch
15:37 <+A-KO> soooooooooo yes, he did.
15:38 <+A-KO> that tells me nothing
15:38 <+A-KO> other than that single port config
15:38 < br14> I'm always afraid of making a small error in GP or SCCM and then watching it spread like a cancer across the network.
15:38 < McDonaldsWiFi> test test tes
15:38 <+A-KO> I'm like
15:38 <+A-KO> 99% of the time it's network issues
15:38 <+A-KO> 99% of the time
15:38 < br14> https://it.slashdot.org/story/14/05/17/051214/emory-university-sccm-server-accidentally-reformats-all-computers-campus-wide
15:38 < McDonaldsWiFi> i don't even have a test env
15:38 <+layer-eight> * br14 →  Emory University SCCM Server Accidentally Reformats All Computers Campus-wide - Slashdot
15:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> I just limt the scope in prod when testing
15:39 <+A-KO> you know why? because it's the least common denominator
15:39 <+A-KO> it's common fucking sense troubleshooting
15:39 <+A-KO> 2 offices out of like 10 have the problem. It's two offices in the same region, and nobody else.
15:39 <+A-KO> this leads me STRONGLY to believe the issue is environmental
15:40 < br14> shortly after the incident our org hired one of their top IT guys :/
15:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> fuck if i made a policy that wipes something...
15:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> I would test that shit 10 times
15:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> and still not be sure lol
15:41 < JollyRgrs> br14: i still talk about that incident
15:41 < br14> JollyRgrs: I think it's in the top 10 of every IT employees worst nightmare.
15:41 <+A-KO> I'm a firm believer that computers should plug up and just fucking work
15:41 < JollyRgrs> it was funny when i read it b/c we had a dope (prior to me doing SCCM) that sent out the same thing (luckily, the SCCM server itself was not managed)... but it hit ~200 endpoints, including a few servers and some C-level users
15:41 <+A-KO> and if they don't just fucking work
15:41 <+A-KO> we need to figure out why they don't just work
15:44 < Hunterkll> lol
15:44 < Hunterkll> A-KO, i just had a slew of big meetings cancelled due to network issues
15:45 < Hunterkll> :P
15:45 < Hunterkll> lol
15:45 < plop> JollyRgrs lost the thing!
15:45 < JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: lol
15:47 <@Code_Man65> br14:  You know why shit like that happens?  People don't follow my rules for OSD:  1.  Always set a password for PXE 2. Task Sequences should only be deployed to Unknown Computers and your MANUALLY managed re-imaging collections and 3.  Task Sequences are NEVER marked as required.
15:48 < Hunterkll> Code_Man65, what if the task sequence isn't for OSD though
15:48 < Hunterkll> :)\
15:49 <@Code_Man65> Hunterkll: Those are special circumstances
15:49 <@Code_Man65> And as said "Rules for OSD"
15:49 < jaelae> hmm when do you worry about an ebay item not shipping
15:49 < ebol4> when they don't ship it
15:49 < jaelae> 3 days after it is suppoised to ship?
15:49 < alazare619> lost all my money at the FX table
15:50 < ebol4> 3 business days yeah, that's when i would message them
15:50 <@Code_Man65> jaelae:  When they haven't shipped it after you put your left foot in, took your left foot out, put your left foot in and shook it all about
15:50 < alazare619> rip equity
15:50 < Hunterkll> jaelae, depends
15:50 < Hunterkll> it really does
15:50 < jaelae> bouht something on sunday and of course i dont think its gonna ship then but they printed the USPS shipping label and monday and tuesday went by without it shipping yet
15:50 < jaelae> i figured ill wait until thursday
15:50 < Hunterkll> guy could be away from house
15:50 < Hunterkll> i've done it before
15:50 < jaelae> but he marked it as shipped
15:50 < Hunterkll> 7 business days is the marker i believe
15:50 < jaelae> with tracking
15:50 < Hunterkll> no
15:50 < Hunterkll> printing the shipping label did that
15:51 < Hunterkll> he may not have taken it to the post office yet
15:51 < Hunterkll> he may not even be where the item is
15:51 < jaelae> yea im sure thats the case
15:51 < Hunterkll> i've done that before
15:51 < Hunterkll> lol
15:51 < Hunterkll> made a batch of shipipng labels and had them sitting on the printer ready at home
15:51 < Hunterkll> while i was on the other side of the country
15:51 < jaelae> well i dont mind when he ships it to be honest i just need it by monday (the package shows it would arrive by Saturday on the auction)
15:51 < jaelae> so we shall see what happens
15:51 < Hunterkll> but 7 business days i believe is the mark for when you do the 'did not ship ' claim
15:51 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah I've had that happen, label tracking is sent before it's actually given to the shipping company
15:51 < jaelae> ive sold a lot on ebay and ebay usually sends me angry notices if i havent shipped within 2 days :)
15:52 < JollyRgrs> Code_Man65: but what about when we have to reimage an entire classroom overnight?
15:52 < Hunterkll> jaelae, depends on what you've set your handling time to
15:52 < Hunterkll> among other things
15:52 < jaelae> yea whatever ill see if i get it by monday :)
15:52 < Hunterkll> jaelae, and that delivery date is an estimate
15:52 < Hunterkll> so if it's missed
15:52 < Hunterkll> that's on you for relying on it
15:53 < Hunterkll> not on the seller or ebay
15:53 < jaelae> my real concern is ive bought stuff before and waited a full week and contact the person and they say - oh it must have gotten lost
15:53 < jaelae> then i have to buy something else
15:53 <@Code_Man65> Hunterkll:  Have an after hours tech start the process and walk away?
15:53 < Hunterkll> what?
15:53 <@Code_Man65> Sorry, JollyRgrs
15:53 <@Code_Man65> Finger missed the j and hit the h
15:53 < Hunterkll> jaelae, i like lost packages
15:53 < JollyRgrs> Code_Man65: lol... how about i just am VERY VERY careful and check 12 times before deploying a required OSD to a collection (that isn't named "ALL SYSTEMS"?
15:53 < Hunterkll> jaelae, I sold a Gigabyte X299 UD4 on ebay, it got lost in the post, insurance paid out, USPS found it a month later and sent it back to me
15:54 < Hunterkll> so I got my $150 AND kept the motherboard
15:54 < Hunterkll> :3
15:54 < jaelae> good for the seller
15:54 < jaelae> not for the buyer :)
15:54 < Hunterkll> *shrug* can't blame the seller for it
15:54 < jaelae> well
15:54 < Hunterkll> which i think is why you can't leave feedback on refunded purchases antyway
15:54 <+A-KO> sigh
15:54 < jaelae> id be very suspicious is all
15:54 < Hunterkll> Lost shit happens
15:54 < JollyRgrs> ^^
15:54 < jaelae> ive seen people purposely do that on ebay
15:54 < Hunterkll> I had to overnight order film from B&H
15:54 < jaelae> if they didnt get the bidding $$ they wanted
15:54 < Hunterkll> jaelae, to get insurance payout it has to be in the carrier system & the carrier has to have scanned it in
15:54 < JollyRgrs> you see those stories of post-persons having like millions of mail at their house or stuffed in their jeeps, etc?
15:55 < Hunterkll> jaelae, it works both ways though
15:55 < Hunterkll> jaelae, Amazon sent me a keyboard, i got it
15:55 < Hunterkll> but the delivery person didn't scan it as dropped off
15:55 < Hunterkll> so amazon gave me a refund
15:55 < Hunterkll> even though i'm using the keyboard right now
15:55 < Hunterkll> ;)
15:55 < Hunterkll> tehe?
15:55  * NinjaStyle calls the feds
15:55 < Hunterkll> but i've also got a lost package too
15:55 < jaelae> oh man you are in trouble
15:56 < Hunterkll> amazon had some kind of fuckup / delay in sending my ektar 100 film
15:56 < Hunterkll> so i had to place an overnight order with B&H
15:56 < Hunterkll> since they use fedex
15:56 < Hunterkll> :'(
15:56 < jaelae> although you are right cause i had the same issue with something i sold
15:56 < ravioli> Hunterkll: halfway done
15:56 < Hunterkll> lol
15:56 < Hunterkll> jaelae, i've had every type of fu ckup happen to me at least once
15:56 < Hunterkll> EXCEPT
15:57 <+NinjaStyle> Damn portswigger support was fast
15:57 < Hunterkll> i haven't had it not scanned delivered and the buyer claim it wasn't delivered
15:57 < jaelae> i sold a server poweredge on ebay for $1200 and shipped it by bringing it to the UPS store locally and they shipped it - charged me like $90. And I got the receipt with tracking number but the tracking number was never in the UPS system
15:57 <+NinjaStyle> Thumb emoji
15:57 < Hunterkll> doubt the scummy ripoffs would do that
15:57 < Hunterkll> lol
15:57 < Hunterkll> jaelae, ?!?
15:57 < Hunterkll> lol
15:57 < jaelae> took me a month to get them to let me put in a claim for it because the tracking number didn't exist
15:57 < Hunterkll> the # was probably in the system but they fucked up scanning
15:57 < Hunterkll> lol
15:57 < Hunterkll> oh
15:57 < Hunterkll> weird
15:57 < jaelae> so UPS customer support had to work with the local store to figure out what happened
15:57 < jaelae> i got refunded but not the insurance i paid for the package
15:57 <+A-KO> sigh
15:58 <+A-KO> I should just fucking stay up and go into the office
15:58 < jaelae> :|
15:58 < jaelae> A-KO:  up all night?
15:58 <+A-KO> nah, up early though
15:58 <+NinjaStyle> It's 10 am
15:58 <+A-KO> 7am here :/
15:58 <+A-KO> been up since 4....
15:59 < Hunterkll> lol
15:59 < Hunterkll> A-KO, you do have bawls now
15:59 < Hunterkll> speaking of
15:59 < Hunterkll> brb
15:59 < jaelae> my kid woke up a few times to pee
15:59 < jaelae> so it messed me up
15:59 <+NinjaStyle> Gross tell him to stop creeping around peeing
16:00 < Hunterkll> A-KO, besides, i wake up at 6AM here every day
16:00 < Hunterkll> shush
16:00 < Hunterkll> :P
16:00 < mrghostman> 4:45am alarm time here
16:00 < Hunterkll> to be fair waking up at 6AM every day was kind of an accident
16:00 < Hunterkll> but it happens now
16:00 < jaelae> i used to get up at 530-6am every day to go to work now i work from home so i wake up at 759am if i can. then walk to my office
16:00 < jaelae> living the american dream
16:00 < Hunterkll> makes my frequent cross country trips easy
16:00 < Hunterkll> jaelae, you don't just roll over and your laptop is already there?
16:00 < jaelae> that  isn't comfortable
16:01 < Hunterkll> pfff
16:01 < coderphive> remote pairing ftw
16:01 <+NinjaStyle> #wfhlife
16:01 < jaelae> id accidently send the wrong emails out
16:01 < Hunterkll> usually i'm lucky if i get out of bed before noon
16:01 < Hunterkll> until this past two weeks anyway
16:01 < Hunterkll> afte that 3 day weekend i somehow passed out mad early monday and now i'v ebeen waking up befre daylight every day
16:01 <+NinjaStyle> Hunterkll: jet lag is assraping me this week
16:01 < Hunterkll> so now i just live in california time
16:01 < coderphive> NinjaStyle that's not pc
16:01 < Hunterkll> makes my cross country frequent junkets ez AF
16:01 < Bru-> anyone have any i7-2600's they wanna part with?
16:02 < jaelae> i got an email on my iphone about some company wide meeting the following week and im reading the email not thinking while im outside and i pressed the "1:30pm to 2:30pm" meeting time and hit create event. not realizing i created an event for the current day and it emailed the entire company to invite them
16:02 < Hunterkll> ebay does
16:02 < jaelae> im going to blame the sender for not using BCC though
16:02 < Hunterkll> lololol
16:02 < coderphive> lmao
16:02 < coderphive> off-load blame
16:02 < jaelae> sent to 600 employees and im getting spammed with people declining the invite.
16:02 < Bru-> haha
16:02 < Bru-> Hunterkll: huhu :P
16:02 < jaelae> CEO's admiunistrative assistant messages me and is like hey i think you invited everyone
16:02 < Bru-> Hunterkll: wanna see if anyone has any before submitting to the ebay fees
16:02 < jaelae> sobering experience
16:02 < Bru-> TRYIN TO DO YOU A SOLID :D
16:03 <+NinjaStyle> Lol
16:03 < coderphive> jaelae email the assistant with, "no u"
16:03 < Hunterkll> Bru-, to be honest i'd list it on ebay buy it now for you at the price you wanted and make you do it anyway
16:03 < Hunterkll> just so you don't screw me
16:03 < Hunterkll> :P
16:03 < jaelae> i responded saying: "it's a prank bro!"
16:03 < Hunterkll> IRC scams are srs bsns
16:03 < Hunterkll> lol
16:03 < Bru-> Hunterkll: im trust
16:03 < Bru-> Hunterkll: im gud guy
16:03 < Hunterkll> hi trust, i'm fucking your couch
16:04 < Hunterkll> how are you
16:04 < Bru-> ive got some verified sells on here
16:04 < Bru-> my couch!
16:04 < Bru-> violat
16:04 < coderphive> Bru- are you also a nigerian prince?
16:04 < plop> A+++++++++++++ will buy again
16:04 < coderphive> Bru- those are the only kind of princes I trust
16:04 < Hunterkll> lol
16:05 < Hatter> Who has the coolest keyboard in here?
16:05 < coderphive> Me
16:05 < Bru-> coderphive: morrocan
16:05 < coderphive> It's a MBP 2017 keyboard
16:05 < plop> ihre has the coolest kb
16:05 < jaelae> i have a lot of B200 M2 blades i have to get rid of. but that stuff costs more to ship then its worth
16:05 < jaelae> stupid blades
16:05 < JollyRgrs> coderphive: yo
16:05 < coderphive> =|
16:05 < coderphive> I'm in trouble
16:05 < Bru-> yeah weve got a netapp
16:05 < Bru-> lefthand san
16:05 < Bru-> etc
16:05 < Bru-> worth more as scrap
16:05 < Hatter> ihre: what's so cool about your keyboard?
16:05 < coderphive> JollyRgrs oi
16:05 < plop> mx blue or browns?
16:05 < JollyRgrs> coderphive: so i added plex plugin (as jail)
16:06 < JollyRgrs> for once the CPU on my freenas box jumped over 2% usage
16:06 < Hatter> plop: I'm using browns in the office
16:06 < JollyRgrs> lol
16:06 < plop> Hatter, me too
16:06 < coderphive> :o
16:06 < Bru-> were about to take a pile of desktops and laptops to recyclers
16:06 < ravioli> hi plop
16:06 < jaelae> Bru-:  i have an EMC VNX full size rack in the corner of my cage in the data center and other companies come in offering trade ins for it. they igve me the discount and said ok but please keep the VNX we cant dispose of it
16:06 < plop> sup ravioli
16:06 < jaelae> :|
16:06 < Bru-> jaelae: BUY A RACK, GET A VNX FREE
16:06 < coderphive> JollyRgrs so it's running in chroot?
16:06 < JollyRgrs> i put it on hurt my CPU transcoding and it peaked at 82% then went down to 20% or so after it had time to buffer a quick few seconds
16:06 < abakedapplepie> lol
16:06 < Bru-> its amazing how these once super expensive items lose their value horrendously
16:06 < jaelae> im gonna roll it into the hallway
16:07 < JollyRgrs> yeah... i guess... it's in a jail not a VM/container
16:07 < Bru-> toughbook cf-c2 was $2500 new
16:07 < jaelae> and see what happens
16:07 < JollyRgrs> i think that's same as chroot
16:07 < Bru-> its worth $200-$300 tops on ebay
16:07 < Bru-> in refurb condition
16:07 < coderphive> JollyRgrs ah yeah, that's like busybox's chroot
16:07 < Bru-> 4 year old unit
16:07 < Bru-> 5 maybe
16:07 < jaelae> toughbooks are super pricey new
16:07 < Bru-> theyre awful
16:07 < jaelae> i was outfitting vans with them
16:07 < JFDkthx> "hey developer im shutting down your system to upgrade it to rhel 7 as you requested" ok cool thanks
16:07 < abakedapplepie> how old is VNX
16:07 < Bru-> i recycled some CF-C1s myself
16:07 < Bru-> slapped linux on it
16:07 < JFDkthx> FW: URGENT NO ONE CAN LOG INTO DEV SYSTEM
16:07 < Bru-> runs like a dream
16:07 < JFDkthx> are you fucking seriously
16:07 < abakedapplepie> i need some storage for my homelab xD
16:07 < coderphive> JollyRgrs you own freenas hardware too?
16:07 < jaelae> no idea
16:07 <+TuxedoJack> "FW: Urgent, Devs are sitting around jacking off"
16:08 < Bru-> abakedapplepie: want a netapp?
16:08 < Bru-> 7.2TB
16:08 < jaelae> but its a full rack
16:08 < jaelae> and the drives are pulled and destroyed
16:08 < jaelae> lol
16:08 < jaelae> so its just an empty vnx
16:08 < JFDkthx> the person i talked to is the same person that sent the email
16:08 < abakedapplepie> oh
16:08 < abakedapplepie> jeez
16:08 < JFDkthx> i just want to cave in his knees
16:08 < coderphive> I've been thinking of my next iteration for my home server and considered a freenas box
16:08 < coderphive> I may also go NUC
16:08 < Bru-> NUCs are NICE
16:09 < coderphive> I'm more concerned about MQTT running on there
16:09 < coderphive> Probably do a dockerized install w/ docker compose
16:09 < coderphive> Sync that to my github, throw some hooks in
16:09 < coderphive> We'll see how it works out for me
16:09 < JollyRgrs> coderphive: i don't have official freenas hardware?
16:10 < coderphive> Just running on baremetal?
16:10 < JollyRgrs> i just have a pair of R710 servers... one is freenas, the other is KVM/QEMU running on CentOS 7
16:10 < coderphive> I was asking, I didn't know
16:10 < coderphive> ooo
16:10 < coderphive> lmao, that's what I have too
16:10 < JollyRgrs> so... like i said, i felt bad having that CPU just sitting idle on freenas
16:10 < coderphive> got them off liquidation sale
16:10 < JollyRgrs> all teh while, performance on the VM for plex wasn't like i thought it should be
16:10 < JollyRgrs> had issues with when it was transcoding
16:10 < coderphive> hmm
16:10 < JollyRgrs> i got mine for a good price as well
16:11 < abakedapplepie> im waiting for them to be free
16:11 < abakedapplepie> :P
16:11 < coderphive> JollyRgrs CPU spiked during transcoding?
16:11 < abakedapplepie> got a DL380 g8 for free a few months back
16:11 < abakedapplepie> needs more drives
16:11 < abakedapplepie> i only have 2
16:12 < JollyRgrs> coderphive: when i told it to put transcoding at "make my CPU hurt", and picked a 25GB BD rip of pete's dragon (the 70s version) and streamed from my phone
16:12 < JollyRgrs> it was transcoding audio and video and only a 2-sec delay or so from skipping around to when it started playback
16:12 < coderphive> o wow
16:13 < coderphive> Probably some KVM tuning needed there then
16:13 < abakedapplepie> that sounds pretty damn good
16:13 < JollyRgrs> yeah, my KVM i still wanna figure out... it'd prob help performance of the other VMs as well
16:13 < coderphive> KVM is a beast
16:13 < coderphive> I've yet to really deep dive it
16:13 < JollyRgrs> but in the jail on freenas, it is the only thing aside from freenas, so it has all 16 threads to work with
16:14 < coderphive> All 16 are available to the jail?
16:14 < Nightcinder> https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/06/judge-orders-epa-to-disclose-any-science-backing-up-pruitts-climate-claims/
16:14 < Nightcinder> lol
16:14 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  Judge orders EPA to disclose any science backing up Pruitt’s climate claims | Ars Technica
16:14 < Nightcinder> this should be fun
16:15 < Nightcinder> In its own explanation to the court, the EPA argued that complying with PEER's FOIA request “would require EPA to spend countless hours researching and analyzing a vast trove of material on the effect of human activity on climate change,” which amounted to “a subjective assessment upon which reasonable minds can differ.”
16:15 < Nightcinder> so...doing their job?
16:15 < JollyRgrs> coderphive: i've not looked at top, but i believe so...it hit up to 82.5% CPU usage on the box when i started transcoding
16:15 < JollyRgrs> Nightcinder: haha
16:15 < coderphive> I just read that all the processes in freenas are limited to "nice"
16:16 < coderphive> That may be a starting point
16:16 < JollyRgrs> Nightcinder: so the truth is, there is probably people on both sides of the fence at EPA and they don't want us to know that they are unsure
16:16 < coderphive> people said there's no limit on threads though
16:16 < JollyRgrs> yes, they are on nice
16:16 < JollyRgrs> so that just means that freenas will get CPU cycles if it needs it more
16:16 < coderphive> ye
16:16 < asimon> Anyone know the sense of how many employees at EPA stayed on through the change of administration?
16:16 < asimon> Like is it just the leadership that changed or is it pretty much a new department
16:16 <@ravioli> are you guys talking like, networking of the epa or sysadmin or what
16:17 <@ravioli> pci compliance?
16:17 < McDonaldsWiFi> Have you guys tried FreeNAS before?
16:17 < asimon> er
16:17 < asimon> Talking about the adminstrator of the EPA system if thats what you mean
16:17 < coderphive> the EPA is a massive organization
16:17 < McDonaldsWiFi> I had a hellva time getting a windows share to work on that dam thing
16:18 < coderphive> There's labs, administrative people, etc
16:18 < JollyRgrs> McDonaldsWiFi: that's what i was just talking about with coderphive
16:18 < JollyRgrs> and many of us in here run freenas at home
16:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> oh sorry shoulda scrolled up
16:18 < JollyRgrs> what is your issue?
16:18 < JollyRgrs> credentials? or just a flat public share?
16:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> I tried it once, spent 3 hours trying to get it ot work and just ended up spinning up a windowws core to do it lol
16:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> creds for sure
16:19 < JollyRgrs> on a domain or workgroup?
16:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> I could see the share but i never could open it, even with it wide open security wise
16:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> workgroup
16:19 < coderphive> asimon AFAIK, the people we interact with at the EPA have not changed. That's mostly on their research/lab/policy side.
16:19 < JollyRgrs> McDonaldsWiFi: #You'reDoingItWrong
16:19 < JollyRgrs> lol
16:19 < JollyRgrs> it shouldn't be that hard
16:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> this is last year, I'm over it now but I just thought it funn yyou guys went through it too
16:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> well I ended up doing it wide open just to see if it would work
16:19 < asimon> coderphive: That's what I figured
16:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> I've over it, #neveragain
16:19 < JollyRgrs> nah, i played around a little as i didn't wanna open up personal pictures on the network for kids and guests to see, etc.
16:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
16:20 < JollyRgrs> McDonaldsWiFi: #GiveItAnotherTry
16:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> xD
16:20 < JollyRgrs> ZFS is a thing of beauty
16:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> I use windows 2016 as my FS at home now
16:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> I'm the only one who uses it anyways so oh well
16:20 < JollyRgrs> i plug in an 8TB HDD via eSATA and I do a ZFS snapshot to it to do my backups
16:20 < JollyRgrs> so clean
16:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> which is dope cause I've got openVPN up on my pfsense box so I can rach my share from anywhere
16:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> damn
16:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> sounds slick lol
16:21 < JollyRgrs> i run openvpn on my pfsense, too
16:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> also have my phone piped through openVPn too
16:21 < felda> yes this is good
16:21 < JollyRgrs> i just wish it could change DNS on my non-rooted android :(
16:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> with pihole running as DNS at home, no more ads on my phone now
16:21 <@Code_Man65> I priced out building a FreeBSD box for a plex server yesterday, $1467
16:21 < JollyRgrs> McDonaldsWiFi: why not run bind9?
16:21 <@Code_Man65> FreeNAS I mean
16:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> JollyRgrs: LineageOS is dope
16:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> JollyRgrs: i run quad9 behind my pihole
16:21 < JollyRgrs> McDonaldsWiFi: i'm on verizon and have motorola device
16:22 < JollyRgrs> no root for me
16:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> locked down
16:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
16:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> samsung att is just as bad
16:22 < JollyRgrs> Code_Man65: was that including all of your HDDs?
16:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> I boght a Xaiomi phone and I love it
16:22 <+TuxedoJack> Sprint with an HTC 10
16:22 <+TuxedoJack> S-OFF, root, custom ROM, TWRP, whole nine yards
16:22 <@Code_Man65> That's 2 6TB WD Reds to start
16:22 < JollyRgrs> McDonaldsWiFi: china has your dick pics
16:22 <@Code_Man65> With space for 8 more in the case
16:22 < JollyRgrs> Code_Man65: just 2 6TB reds? what kind beast did you put for server specs then?
16:22 < ebol4> Code_Man65: wtf kind of specs are you looking at, jesus
16:23 <@Code_Man65> It's going to be for Plex
16:23 < JollyRgrs> 2.5" drives?
16:23 < ebol4> i've got 4 8TB reds in mine and i've probably spent under $1000 total on the whole server
16:23 < syere> that's not too bad. My home lab has 16 2tb wd reds in a raid 5
16:23 < technonerd> I think my qnap 4 bay was around thar price
16:23 <@Code_Man65> So I made the processor beefy to handle transcoding
16:23 < JollyRgrs> Code_Man65: my R710 is more than plenty for it
16:23 < JollyRgrs> and i've got an Lxxxx in it
16:23 < JollyRgrs> forget the model
16:24 < ebol4> i don't think i've ever needed to transcode anything
16:24 < coderphive> r710's are the real diamond in the rough
16:24 < JollyRgrs> ebol4: you probably do
16:24 < coderphive> best server ever made
16:24 < ebol4> all my files are x264 or x265 with a couple exceptions
16:24 < JollyRgrs> coderphive: or... just got them at a good price... i still have a pair of 2950 servers decommed at my old job
16:24 < McDonaldsWiFi> JollyRgrs: they dont with lineage :D
16:24 < coderphive> o dang
16:24 < JollyRgrs> replaced with R710 b/c power/heat/etc
16:25 < coderphive> We run a stack of second-hand r710's at work
16:25 < JollyRgrs> ebol4: so how many devices do you have that can hardware decode x365?
16:25 < coderphive> They run our dev kube cluster + gluster fs
16:25 < JollyRgrs> x265 even
16:25 < abakedapplepie> i would hope that the EPA's grunts stuck around
16:25 < coderphive> super lean
16:25 < rpifan> hi drug users
16:25 < ebol4> JollyRgrs: that's true, the only devices i generally stream to are phone and PC, i don't have a ps4 or firestick or anything
16:25 < coderphive> the only thing that sucks is that half of them don't support PXE booting
16:26 <@Code_Man65> That's my concern is power/heat
16:26 < JollyRgrs> ebol4: and you awlays see it playing "direct play" with no transcoding?
16:26 < abakedapplepie> lol what makes the r710 the best server ever made
16:26 < ebol4> yes, all my stuff is direct play
16:26 < JollyRgrs> even your phone... if you can't push full quality on your network connection, it'll have to transcode
16:26 < coderphive> abakedapplepie I was joking
16:26 < abakedapplepie> oh ok
16:26 < abakedapplepie> i mean, a LOT of people say shit like that lol
16:26 < felda> like your mother it is cheap and easy to get
16:26 < ebol4> i only use plex over LAN, and i've got gigabit internet, so network has never been an issue for me
16:26 < coderphive> abakedapplepie they are super cheap and very reliable though
16:27 < abakedapplepie> yeah
16:27 < JollyRgrs> ebol4: but your phone isn't always gigabit speeds
16:27 < felda> parts are everywhere for it
16:27 < abakedapplepie> i have a dl380
16:27 < Nightcinder> one of these days i need to fix my AP placement
16:27 < abakedapplepie> basically same same but different
16:27 < felda> got 2 CPUs for Dell R710 for $20
16:27 < JollyRgrs> i ahve gigabit at home as well as for WAN... it is nice when streaming plex
16:27 < felda> ALL THE THREADS
16:27 < ebol4> JollyRgrs: it's not, but it's more than fast enough to stream a 10Mb/s movie over the network
16:27 < abakedapplepie> i need better procs
16:27 < abakedapplepie> and i need more disks
16:27 < coderphive> felda.io is not updated
16:27 < JollyRgrs> ebol4: so you have SQ movies
16:27 < coderphive> theworldsucks.com is though
16:27 < abakedapplepie> so if anyone has some >600gb 2.5" SAS 6gb drives sitting around
16:27 < abakedapplepie> holla
16:27 < JollyRgrs> shit quality :P
16:28 < JollyRgrs> i want to move to 2.5" disks (i can't even dream of affording enough SSDs or m.2 for movie storage)
16:28 < coderphive> pfff
16:28 < abakedapplepie> unfortunately i dont have the choice
16:28 < coderphive> good luck with that
16:28 < abakedapplepie> i want a 3.5" jbod box so i can get some storage
16:28 < JollyRgrs> but again 2.5" is more density, but all my current drives are 3.5, so it'd be a bit of a cost factor to start over again and get a case for it
16:28 < abakedapplepie> i have tons of misc 3.5" drives
16:29 < coderphive> You're better off with 15k drives
16:29 < JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: eventually, i need to replace my perc card with one that can do JBOD so i can stop worrying about that
16:29 < JollyRgrs> coderphive: well, i'd go with those for power consumption more than i would for speed
16:29 < rpifan> where the drugs yqll
16:29 < abakedapplepie> i considered just fabbing one and running an external SAS cable
16:29 < abakedapplepie> with a passthru adapter
16:29 < abakedapplepie> but thats jank
16:29 < coderphive> JollyRgrs the real bottle neck in movies is CPU though, right?
16:29 < rpifan> leaving at 6 for drug a roo
16:29 < JollyRgrs> coderphive: for transcoding, yes
16:30 < JollyRgrs> RAM isn't really that big of a deal
16:30 < coderphive> I wonder if you could make plex load the movie in ram
16:30 < coderphive> lmao
16:30 < ebol4> 16Mb/s is like a 10GB movie for 90 minutes
16:30 < coderphive> var := movie.mpg
16:30 < ebol4> not even maxing out 802.11g
16:31 < abakedapplepie> 16 Mb/s != 16 mbit/sec
16:31 < ebol4> what are you talking about
16:31 < ebol4> Mb/s is literally mega bits per second
16:31 < abakedapplepie> big M is megabytes for me
16:31 < ebol4> No
16:31 < ebol4> Big B is bytes
16:31 < abakedapplepie> meh
16:31 < coderphive> abakedapplepie he's right
16:31 < ebol4> little m is milli
16:31 < coderphive> SI
16:31 < JFDkthx> MiB
16:31 < ebol4> MiB is mebibytes
16:32 < coderphive> ^
16:32 < SynMonger> let's not bring the men in black into this
16:32 < ebol4> lol
16:32 < coderphive> excuse me?
16:32 < AnimalFarmPig> pls no MiB
16:32 < AnimalFarmPig> MiB is cultural appropriation
16:32 < JFDkthx> its the official metric of NASA
16:32 < abakedapplepie> the men in black?
16:33 < abakedapplepie> i didnt know they were part of nasa
16:33 < Nightcinder> ur a nasa
16:33 < coderphive> # of MiB < # of Humans = ok
16:33 < abakedapplepie> i thought it was just a movie
16:33 < AnimalFarmPig> engineers were using base2 for kilo, mega, etc. when the dominant culture SI guys came and said "You're using those prefixes wrong!" and said that kilo, mega, etc. had to be base10 and gave us kibi, mebi, etc. as a shitty concession
16:33 < coderphive> # of MiBf > # of Humans { panic() }
16:34 < coderphive> tbh both make sense
16:34 < coderphive> base 2 got confusing sometimes
16:34 < AnimalFarmPig> if it's down the line, it's base10
16:34 < AnimalFarmPig> if it's at rest it's base2
16:34 < AnimalFarmPig> ezpz
16:34 < coderphive> DONT INTERRUPT MY SYSTEMS INTERNATIONAL WITH UR NERD BS
16:34 < coderphive> k?
16:35 < felda> AMD going ham https://www.anandtech.com/show/12906/amd-reveals-threadripper-2-up-to-32-cores-250w-x399-refresh
16:35 < AnimalFarmPig> EVERYONE MUST AGREE! LANGUAGE MUST BE LOGICAL!
16:35 <+layer-eight> * felda →  AMD Reveals Threadripper 2 : Up to 32 Cores, 250W, X399 Refresh
16:35 < Hatter> Does anyone have some really cool kibana dashboards that I can steal from?
16:35 < felda> 32 cores, 64 threads  ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ
16:35 < coderphive> bc global consensus always works amiright?
16:36 < AnimalFarmPig> it's telling that SI comes from the same country that gave us the Académie française
16:36 < coderphive> and wine
16:36 < SynMonger> you'll take my furlongs per fortnight from my cold, dead hands
16:36 < coderphive> also
16:36 < coderphive> cheese
16:36 < AnimalFarmPig> I think cheese comes from middle east?
16:36 < coderphive> also fries
16:37 < AnimalFarmPig> ^ legit
16:37 < cantibot> well pee in my butt and call me James. I have 100 chromebooks showing up today.
16:37 < cantibot> It's too hot for all that!
16:37 < cantibot> I got this very fine ball soup going on I don't want to spoil it with having to walk a bunch of boxes up the stairs
16:38 < abakedapplepie> cheese fries come from the middle east
16:38 < cantibot> I feel like if I stand up this ball sweat is going to run down my leg like my water just broke.
16:38 < coderphive> tbh afghanis make some dank fries
16:38 < abakedapplepie> cantibot: pls
16:38 < cantibot> This is with AC on and everything!
16:38 < abakedapplepie> :(
16:38 < SynMonger> pics or it didn't happen
16:38 < abakedapplepie> NO PICS
16:38 < coderphive> they put sea salt and paprika on them
16:38 < cantibot> My phone isn't waterproof sorry.
16:38 < AnimalFarmPig> cantibot: you should do something like this but for your balls-- http://wwww.homstardware.com/ioncannon218/coldair.html
16:38 <+layer-eight> * AnimalFarmPig →  PC Winter Air Intake by IonCannon218
16:39 < abakedapplepie> i know all about dank middle eastern fries
16:39 < abakedapplepie> i live in little iraq
16:39 < abakedapplepie> aka detroit
16:39 < coderphive> o rly
16:39 < coderphive> o
16:39 < cantibot> lol nice AnimalFarmPig
16:39 < coderphive> Are there a lot of middle easterners in detroit?
16:39 < cantibot> I remeber some goofy shit like this when I was younger.
16:39 < cantibot> I had a prescott core P4 that would overheat constantly
16:39 < rpifan> SI SI SI
16:40 < rpifan> ALLE ALLE ALLE
16:40 < rpifan> go go go
16:40 < abakedapplepie> yes. it is the largest concentration of iraqi people specifically and middle easterners in general
16:40 < cantibot> so I ran some flex duct from my window to my PC with a fan in the window
16:40 < abakedapplepie> outside of the middle east
16:40 < cantibot> Chiraq?
16:40 < AnimalFarmPig> cantibot: imagine a big dryer vent running from a crudely sawn hole in the freezer up and into your pants
16:40 < coderphive> interesting
16:40 < abakedapplepie> specifically, dearborn
16:40 < AnimalFarmPig> tons of middle eastern folks in Detroit metro
16:40 < coderphive> They've probably got some pretty cool stories
16:40 < cantibot> oof... AnimalFarmPig that may be a bit too much cold.
16:40 < coderphive> That place is hell
16:40 < cantibot> It may make my pee pee go inside :(
16:41 < abakedapplepie> yeah
16:41 < cantibot> michigan is just a shitty minnesota
16:41 < L3gacy> good bacon to all and to all some good bacon!
16:41 < abakedapplepie> but yeah the food is great
16:42 < abakedapplepie> i love shawarma
16:42 < abakedapplepie> and lentil soup
16:42 < abakedapplepie> and chickpeas
16:42 < abakedapplepie> and one of the best lebanese restaurants in the area has a location across the street from my house
16:43 < abakedapplepie> so thats cool
16:43 < arlion> Does anyone do whole system file versioning in git? I mean, litterly the whole filesystem stored in git?
16:43 < Hatter> did you see any lebanese chicks making out with each other
16:43 < abakedapplepie> im a little surprised there isnt any fusion
16:43 < abakedapplepie> like lebanese-mexican
16:43 < abakedapplepie> or lebanese-chinese
16:43 < ebol4> arlion: i use etckeeper, which just makes /etc/ a git repo
16:43 < ebol4> but not the whole fs no
16:44 < abakedapplepie> the whole FS sounds insane
16:44 < ebol4> yeah i would not do that
16:44 < arlion> I need complex devices such as /dev/urandom to be filesystem versioned too
16:44 < AnimalFarmPig> abakedapplepie: I've heard of some Lebanese-Columbian fusion music & dancing
16:44 < ebol4> why
16:44 < arlion> presently, I use fsvs in svn
16:44 < cantibot> AMD is making a threadstripper2?
16:44 < cantibot> Man...I guess pimpin really isn't easy!
16:44 < abakedapplepie> does it have fixes for meltdown/spectre tho
16:44 < arlion> ebol4: we presently ship a version contolled OS to ~18k servers .
16:44 < cantibot> abakedapplepie I would think so
16:45 < cantibot> anyone ever use an F5 loadbalancer?
16:45 < arlion> each server, at the time of boot is exactly the same where we then use ansible, python and bash to do post installation steps to bring the image to what we need.
16:45 < abakedapplepie> what a fantastic name for a load balancer
16:45 < abakedapplepie> lol
16:45 < abakedapplepie> refresh refresh refresh refresh
16:45 < cantibot> lmfao oh my god, I never thought about it until you said that nice abakedapplepie
16:45 < AnimalFarmPig> abakedapplepie: my favorite Lebanese-Columbian fusion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fnRkq9WuDc
16:45 <+layer-eight> * AnimalFarmPig →  YouTube → Shakira - Si Te Vas MTV Unplugged. → ⚘ 2,423,924 ↑ 8,071 ↓ 286 ✍ 692
16:45 < ebol4> arlion: i think you would be better off using like, puppet or something to only control exactly what needs to be controlled
16:45 < ebol4> that sounds insane to me
16:45 < Hunterkll> so
16:46 < Hunterkll> compnay/network emrgers and email routing
16:46 < arlion> ebol4: not even close to what we need.
16:46 < Hunterkll> i just realized that one potential user
16:46 < Hunterkll> is literally taking this path tor eceive email
16:46 < Hunterkll> Exchange Online Protection/EOP/O365 inbound MX on @newcompany.com which then routes to Cisco IronPort in datacenter which is also the inbounx MX for @oldcompany1.com ... which then routes to @oldcompany1.com exchange .... which then routes to @oldcompany2.com exchjange
16:46 < Hunterkll> so it's O365 -> IronPort -> Exchagne1 -> Exchange2
16:47 < Hunterkll> for a user in @oldcompany2.com network to get their email
16:47 < Hunterkll> winrar!
16:47 < abakedapplepie> nuke it all
16:47 < abakedapplepie> lol
16:47 < abakedapplepie> at least its working?
16:47 < Hunterkll> we were in process of collapsing Exchange1 and Exchange2 together
16:48 < Hunterkll> were
16:48 < Hunterkll> :3
16:48 < Hunterkll> now we're not merging those two half companies into one network anymore due to acquisiton
16:48 < Hunterkll> the acquisition is the O365 frontend
16:48 < Hunterkll> oh, but if you email @oldcompany1.com you go straight to the ironports instead of the O365
16:48 < Hunterkll> and @newcompany.com has SPF records the size of xboxes
16:49 < Nightcinder> https://www.reddit.com/r/audiophile/comments/8oxkv2/three_months_later_my_new_system_is_finally/ holy crap is that ugly
16:49 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  Three months later, my new system is finally connected! : audiophile
16:49 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, https://i.imgur.com/M4kNbY0.png
16:49 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 53,641 bytes
16:49 < int0x1C8> if I P2V convert a physical 2012R2 server which is an active DC, do I need to worry about AD replications interfering with the conversion?
16:49 < Hunterkll> not only does our spf require multiple dns records
16:49 < Hunterkll> but it has CIDR ranges in it too
16:49 < AnimalFarmPig> Nightcinder: what is ugly?
16:49 < Hunterkll> AND IT'S SOFT FAIL
16:49 < Nightcinder> AnimalFarmPig: the whole setup
16:49 < AnimalFarmPig> I'm not seeing it
16:50 < Nightcinder> the weird disjointed lighting, the wireframe chick, the disco ball
16:50 < Hunterkll> i dunno
16:50 < Hunterkll> looks like a stanard midtown / lower central park area apartment to me
16:50 < Nightcinder> it's denver
16:50 < Hunterkll> still
16:50 < Nightcinder> also the acoustics in that room have to be incredibly fucked lol
16:50 < AnimalFarmPig> looks like a hotel to me
16:50 < Hunterkll> money does money
16:51 < Nightcinder> way too cramped to me
16:52 < abakedapplepie> those towers look kinda tiny
16:52 < abakedapplepie> what are they
16:52 < abakedapplepie> kinda look like elan
16:52 < L3gacy> what about Lebanese-Russian?
16:52 < Nightcinder> i forget what exact model they are
16:52 < Nightcinder> sec
16:52 < Hunterkll> i should probably pack for atlantic city todya\
16:52 < Nightcinder> Monitor Audio Silver 300 Loudspeakers
16:52 < abakedapplepie> something ive never heard of
16:53 < Nightcinder> $2k/pair
16:53 < abakedapplepie> yeah
16:53 < abakedapplepie> i have some klipsches
16:53 < abakedapplepie> i think they were like 1400
16:53 < abakedapplepie> actually more than that
16:53 < Nightcinder> i have jbl studio 580's i got on sale for half price
16:54 < AnimalFarmPig> I just load up Youtube or Pandora on my Roku and play it through my TV's speakers when I want music
16:54 < Nightcinder> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/2RQtKtvO/test9.jpg they measure fine
16:54 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 89,372 bytes
16:54 < abakedapplepie> https://www.klipsch.com/products/rp-280f-piano-black
16:54 < abakedapplepie> i have those bad boys
16:54 < abakedapplepie> i love em
16:54 < L3gacy> I miss my 3325 JBLs :(
16:54 <+layer-eight> * abakedapplepie →  RP-280F Piano Black | Klipsch
16:54 <@ravioli> everyone knows the best audio experience is the Beats® Wireless® Headphones®
16:54 < Nightcinder> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/WNYNGjOX/image.png my WIP living room
16:54 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 1,617,135 bytes
16:54 < abakedapplepie> my reciever's room treatment system kinda sucks tho
16:54 < abakedapplepie> so i have it tuned by ear
16:54  * m3point14 gags at the sound of be-ats
16:55 < Nightcinder> mine is audyssey
16:55 < Nightcinder> so, is good
16:56 < Nightcinder> i'll probably bring down the bass 1dB when i get home
16:57 < khelpw> Nightcinder: 590s?
16:57 < Nightcinder> i already said above 580's..
16:58 < khelpw> Oh , I'm blind and stupid. Disregard
16:58 < AnimalFarmPig> picture of that hipster apartment reminded me of place I stayed in Mexico City. Now I want to visit again.
16:58 < khelpw> FWIW, I've got IRCCloud on a 5"x7" monitor
16:58 < Nightcinder> he claims it's not a rental
16:58 < Nightcinder> but i don't see how it's not an apt
16:58 < Nightcinder> lol
16:58 < khelpw> I need speakers, but I need someplace to put them first.
16:58 < Nightcinder> i guess it could be a condo
16:59 < khelpw> Ideally I'd get a set of 590s and an SVS sub and call it a day
16:59 < Nightcinder> SVS is overrated
16:59 < Nightcinder> pass
16:59 < abakedapplepie> Nightcinder:
16:59 < abakedapplepie> https://i.imgur.com/CJ7BrKN.jpg
16:59 <+layer-eight> * abakedapplepie →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 260,225 bytes
16:59 < voidstar> that's hot
16:59 < AnimalFarmPig> IT'S NOT AN APARTMENT; IT'S A CONDO! TOTALLY DIFFERENT!
16:59 < Nightcinder> my measurements above came from a $125 12" sub
16:59 < khelpw> Dayton?
16:59 < Nightcinder> yes
16:59 < scwizard> ok
16:59 < Nightcinder> abakedapplepie: you're missing some things
16:59 < abakedapplepie> eh?
16:59 < Nightcinder> like a table
17:00 < abakedapplepie> lol
17:00 < abakedapplepie> its all behind the wall
17:00 <@ravioli> receiver
17:00 <@ravioli> nice
17:00 < abakedapplepie> with a logitech harmony
17:00 < scwizard> so
17:00 <@ravioli> gotta get dat cable management tho
17:00 < Nightcinder> ah
17:00 < Nightcinder> why not put the wires in the wall?
17:00 < scwizard> i finally learned the ugly truth about my database migration situation
17:00 < abakedapplepie> yeah, the speaker cables come out at the floor now
17:00 <@ravioli> nice
17:00 <@ravioli> looks good
17:00 < abakedapplepie> that was right after i got the towers
17:00 < scwizard> apparently AWS Aurora is based off of enough of MYSQL's code that it inherits MYSQL's bugs too
17:00 < abakedapplepie> theyre also about a foot farther away from the wall too
17:00 < abakedapplepie> lots of back reflection
17:00 < Nightcinder> if i wasn't in an apartment i'd have much better cable management
17:00 < khelpw> Yeah, I was thinking about getting a sub1500 or two
17:00 < scwizard> but the Aurora code is an older version of MYSQL so
17:01 < scwizard> it has old bugs
17:01 < abakedapplepie> i got those towers because i didnt want to buy a subwoofer tho
17:01 < abakedapplepie> my room is huge and i couldnt afford decent towers + a sub
17:01 < abakedapplepie> so i got even bigger towers
17:01 < Nightcinder> my intentions are to either buy the 12" monoprice sub or build a pair of 15" ultimaxes
17:01 < abakedapplepie> the bass is really really impressive with just those towers
17:01 < abakedapplepie> i can feel it outside
17:01 < abakedapplepie> its enough to make my wife yell at me
17:01 < abakedapplepie> constantly
17:01 < DomLS3> abakedapplepie: throw her away
17:01 < Nightcinder> get a new wife
17:01 < AnimalFarmPig> scwizard: which bugs?
17:02 < scwizard> AnimalFarmPig: "We just had a meeting with the Service Team to discuss about your issue. This is a MySQL bug, Bug #22963169, not specific to AWS Aurora. This bug affects the FTS Indexes creation and was fixed on the MySQL version 5.17.13.  As Aurora does not contains this fix yet, this is causing the migration to fail."
17:02 < AnimalFarmPig> haha, nice
17:02 < abakedapplepie> those bad boys do i think 150w RMS at 98dB
17:02 < abakedapplepie> which is pretty great
17:03 < abakedapplepie> i need a much bigger amp for them
17:03 < AnimalFarmPig> so, legit bugs, not just unexpected behaviour like on delete triggers not getting run if the delete is the result of a cascade
17:03 < scwizard> AnimalFarmPig: and what's even better, the MYSQL release where this was fixed, was released in 2016-06-02!!!
17:03 < abakedapplepie> my reciever is like 100w rms for the front channels i think
17:03 < JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: i love my klipsch F3 speakers for my fronts
17:03 < Jekotia> Speaking of cable management... Something I found drastically helped my desk at home was to connect everything in a way where I had a single point of connection from the desk to anything else. All cabling is semi-permanently installed and routed under the desk, and I literally plug power and network into a customised electrical box mounted under the desk
17:03 < Nightcinder> i should attach the IR from the harmony to the receiver
17:03 < AnimalFarmPig> ehh... only two years ago
17:03 < Nightcinder> because for some reason it won't use wifi to control the receiver
17:03 < JollyRgrs> good enough bass just in itself, but even better w/ a 12" klipsch sub
17:03 < Nightcinder> only IR
17:03 < abakedapplepie> the older klipsches tend to be a little bright
17:04 < Nightcinder> newer are even brighter
17:04 < Nightcinder> lol
17:04 < Nightcinder> i heard some higher end ones in a store when i was searching for towers
17:04 < abakedapplepie> noo its more balanced
17:04 < Nightcinder> them and B&W were the worst i'd heard
17:04 < abakedapplepie> before it was really tinny
17:04 < Nightcinder> new B&W is *AWFUL*
17:04 < abakedapplepie> id believe it
17:04 < abakedapplepie> theyre just a marketing brand at this point
17:04 < JollyRgrs> mine also came at under half price b/c i was an employee of best buy at the time :)
17:04 < abakedapplepie> a way to separate money from idiots
17:04 < abakedapplepie> rich idiots
17:04 < Nightcinder> if you can find the ones from the 80's or 90's they're really good
17:04 < Nightcinder> but wew lad do the new ones suck
17:05 < abakedapplepie> b&w is probably the most well known super high end brand
17:05 < vinrock> man
17:05 < abakedapplepie> so rich people that want a kickass sound system hire someone to hire someone to buy a b&w system
17:05 < vinrock> when I seen B&W and McIntosh for sale at Best Buy I knew shit hit the fan
17:05 < Nightcinder> mcintosh lol
17:05 < Nightcinder> hold on
17:05 < JollyRgrs> lol
17:05 < Nightcinder> let me show you something
17:06 < Nightcinder> https://www.mcintoshlabs.com/products/merchandise/LB100
17:06 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  McIntosh LB100 Light Box
17:06 < abakedapplepie> HAHA
17:06 < abakedapplepie> holy shit
17:06 < abakedapplepie> what
17:06 < vinrock> wait what
17:06 < JollyRgrs> pls tell me that isn't just a box that lights up
17:06 < abakedapplepie> youve gotta be kidding me
17:06 < vinrock> jaysus
17:06 < Nightcinder> https://www.mcintoshlabs.com/products/merchandise/McIntosh-Clock
17:06 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  McIntosh MCLK12 Clock
17:06 <@ravioli> what is it
17:06 < Nightcinder> JollyRgrs: oh it is
17:06 < Nightcinder> ravioli: it's a light box
17:06 < Nightcinder> that has an LED in it
17:06 < abakedapplepie> ITS 12 POUNDS
17:06 < abakedapplepie> WHAT IS IN IT
17:07 < vinrock> this is so bad
17:07 < abakedapplepie> THAT IS 12 POUNDS
17:07 < vinrock> both home & car audio has completely gone to shit
17:07 <@ravioli> Nightcinder: what part lights up? the name?
17:07 < JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: just the case :P
17:07 < abakedapplepie> yes
17:07 < Nightcinder> the green
17:07 < JollyRgrs> ravioli: yeah, thats it
17:07 < Nightcinder> parts
17:07 <@ravioli> that's brilliant
17:07 <@ravioli> if they're selling it
17:07 <@ravioli> that's brilliant
17:07 < abakedapplepie> $1500
17:07 < abakedapplepie> im sure they are
17:07 <@ravioli> i mean, if people are buying
17:07 < vinrock> pretty much im down to two vendors now for home & auto
17:07 < vinrock> Yamaha & JL Audio
17:07 < Nightcinder> it has the PC in and PC out so it can be controlled by your other mcintosh gear
17:07 < abakedapplepie> if nothing else, stores are buying them for their floor displays
17:07 < abakedapplepie> which is still bad
17:07 < Nightcinder> so it'll turn on when you turn everything else on
17:07 < JollyRgrs> i had someone get bose 2.1 speakers for his desktop and specific instructions that i make sure the "bose" label was clearly visible
17:08 < abakedapplepie> third man records has a VERY EXPENSIVE mcintosh setup
17:08 < JollyRgrs> he just wanted ppl to know he had bose speakers...
17:08 < abakedapplepie> id see them putting that in there
17:08 < vinrock> Oh ok and Bose I still like them
17:08 < vinrock> but thats pretty silly joly
17:08 < abakedapplepie> you like bose?
17:08 < Nightcinder> bose has a few okay products
17:08 < Nightcinder> QC35
17:08 < vinrock> Yeah Bose makes good stuff still
17:08 < abakedapplepie> sure if you dont have ears
17:08 < vinrock> I just bought their soundbar
17:08 < JollyRgrs> bose is not great
17:08 < Nightcinder> https://www.amazon.com/Bose-Soundwear-Companion-Wireless-Wearable/dp/B0748KDJPS/ and this is actually not bad
17:08 < vinrock> its pretty friggin nice
17:08 < Nightcinder> vinrock: ew
17:08 < Nightcinder> soundbar
17:08 < Nightcinder> bose
17:08 < Nightcinder> pls
17:08 <@ravioli> psh audio snobs
17:08 < vinrock> soundtouch 300
17:08 < JollyRgrs> bad for the wallet and only good if you listen to symphonic music (and even that is debatable)
17:08 < vinrock> thing sounds like a beast
17:08 < abakedapplepie> i havent paid attention to bose in a decade but at least back then, they were straight up chopping entire frequency ranges from their sound systems
17:09 < Nightcinder> holy shit
17:09 < Nightcinder> $699?!
17:09 < vinrock> yep
17:09 < Nightcinder> you could do so much better
17:09 < Nightcinder> lol
17:09 < abakedapplepie> because their cheap plastic speakers couldnt reproduce the resonant frequencies correctly
17:09 < vinrock> not really at that price
17:09 < Nightcinder> yes really
17:09 < vinrock> anything competetive i'd need an amp
17:09 < abakedapplepie> you could get a decent sound system for $700
17:09 < vinrock> and the sonos is stuck in the past fuck that thing
17:10 <@ravioli> amps aren't really that expensive tho
17:10 < Nightcinder> meh you could use powered speakers
17:10 < abakedapplepie> my pioneer elite was $250
17:10 < vinrock> yeah but it'd trigger my OCD and id have to buy THE BEST
17:10 < abakedapplepie> does atmos, 4k hdr
17:10 < Alternity> my phone puts out pretty good sound
17:10 < vinrock> next thing you know I went from $700 to $2000
17:10 < Nightcinder> to be fair i'll be buying a soundbar
17:10 < Nightcinder> but
17:10 < Nightcinder> it's for the bedroom
17:10 < abakedapplepie> ^
17:10 < Nightcinder> and it's the JBL Link Bar
17:10 < abakedapplepie> i need one as well
17:10 < Nightcinder> that's a google home + android tv
17:10 < abakedapplepie> my toshiba tv has terrible speakers
17:11 < Nightcinder> the link bar is gonna be sick
17:11 < vinrock> the soundtouch alone sounds powerful enough that my neighbor has called the cops on me twice for watching tv
17:11 < Nightcinder> google halo product
17:11 < vinrock> but shes a cunt
17:11 <@ravioli> relt
17:11 < arlion> in bash, how would I find the latest file, as in, the newest file.
17:11 < arlion> and no, ls -ltr isn't what I am looking for
17:11 < Nightcinder> https://www.tomsguide.com/us/jbl-link-bar-android-tv-specs,news-27177.html
17:11 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  JBL Link Bar Hands-on: The Ultimate Android TV Soundbar
17:11 < Nightcinder> abakedapplepie: ^
17:11 < arlion> like, the file is 2018-6-08, how would I compare it against another date, 2018-07-08 ?
17:12 < Nightcinder> it's 3 products in one
17:12 < Nightcinder> with google promising 3 years of updates
17:12 < vinrock> i have a love/hate relationship with jbl
17:12 < vinrock> some stuff is so good for the price
17:12 < vinrock> some stuff is completely garbage
17:13 < Nightcinder> my 580's were $379 ea
17:13 < Nightcinder> i wouldn't pay full retail for them
17:13 < ebol4> arlion: probably have to parse out the date with awk or something, and then pass it to $(date) and then compare them
17:13 < vinrock> ebol4 check out midnight commander
17:13 < ebol4> why is ls -ltr not sufficient
17:13 < vinrock> if this aint something you need to automate
17:14 < Jekotia> arlion: It sounds like your problem may be that you're asking ls to tell you about long term relationships ;)
17:14 < arlion> ebol4: because these files are version controlled so dates may not be accurate
17:14 < Nightcinder> i do need to eventually get my center and surrounds
17:14 < vinrock> it's handy dandy
17:14 < Nightcinder> but not anytime soon
17:14 < vinrock> yeah nightcinder me2
17:14 < FenJai> Can anyone recommend a good UK based laptop vendor ?
17:14 < Nightcinder> my center was on sale last motnh
17:14 < Nightcinder> but i couldn't afford it
17:14 < vinrock> neighbor is gona call the cops on me constantly after i get the sub
17:14 < vinrock> heh
17:14 < arlion> Jekotia: women man.... smh
17:15 < Nightcinder> https://www.jbl.com/STUDIO+520CBK.html https://www.jbl.com/loudspeakers/STUDIO+235C.html
17:15 < Nightcinder> these are my options
17:15 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  Studio 235C | High-frequency Dual 2.5-way Center Channel Speaker
17:15 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  Studio 520C | High-frequency 150-watt Center Channel Speaker
17:15 < Nightcinder> they both will work fine
17:15 < Nightcinder> the 520c is technically the right one but the 235c has bigger speakers
17:15 < vinrock> just remember center channel is the most important of all your speakers in a surround system
17:15 < vinrock> so if youre gona cheap out on anything, dont cheap out on the center
17:15 < Nightcinder> center is the most important because I CAN MUTE ANNOUNCERS IN SPORTS
17:15 < vinrock> whoa i never thought about that
17:16 < dragonfleas> i got 10 hours of sleep but somehow i am still tired
17:17 < Nightcinder> people run both these centers with my speakers
17:17 < dragonfleas> should i go get a quadruple shot of espresso coffee
17:17 < Nightcinder> make sure you get it from starbucks
17:17 < Nightcinder> so it'llc ost you $100
17:17 < dragonfleas> ik lol
17:17 < dragonfleas> https://computers.woot.com/offers/hp-spectre-x360-13-qhd-512gb-convertible
17:17 < dragonfleas> This is a really good deal
17:18 < Nightcinder> regarding that denver place i posted before
17:18 < Nightcinder> that dude paid $400/sqft
17:18 < khelpw> Denver: Confirmed
17:19 < dragonfleas> wtf
17:19 < Nightcinder> for a condo lol
17:19 < dragonfleas> 400 per square feet? that's insane
17:19 < Nightcinder> that's nothing insane
17:20 < DomLS3> people pay millions for 800 sq feet in ney work
17:20 < DomLS3> wat the fuck
17:20 < DomLS3> new york
17:20 < ebol4> new work
17:20 < Nightcinder> ney work
17:20 < DomLS3> I have no idea how or why I did that
17:20 < dragonfleas> wey nork
17:21 < dragonfleas> do u no de wey nork
17:21 < DomLS3> jes I knoe de wa
17:21 < DomLS3> e
17:23 < felda> just wowed the users at my new contracting place by hiding the full cortana search bar so now they have more task bar room
17:23 <@ravioli> GodWizardFelda++
17:23 < Nightcinder> pfsense
17:23 <@ravioli> did i tell you about my nephew? he knows so much about computers!
17:23 < GodWizardFelda> I declare ravioli best OP
17:25 < JollyRgrs> ravioli++ he can make bookmarks in IE!
17:26 < JollyRgrs> ... srsly, i had someone tell me their son wanted a job at geek squad (while she brought in the computer b/c viruses)... stating his credentials as such (he's the smartest computer guy in the family!)
17:26 < Hunterkll> oh
17:26 < Hunterkll> i forgot about home use program
17:26 < Hunterkll> and it has the disc bsaed version too
17:26 < Nightcinder> JollyRgrs: solid creds
17:26 < JollyRgrs> Nightcinder: ikr?
17:26  * Hunterkll blows another $60
17:26 < JollyRgrs> "aaaaand you are bringing this into us to fix b/c he couldn't fix it, right?"
17:27 < abakedapplepie> JollyRgrs: lol
17:27 < Nightcinder> solid
17:27 < abakedapplepie> you worked for geek squad?
17:27 < Nightcinder> i used to work with a girl in workstudy who did geek squad
17:27 < Nightcinder> she thought she was hot shit
17:27 < Nightcinder> she's a manager now i think
17:27 < Nightcinder> i'm pretty sure i make a lot more than her
17:28 < Nightcinder> and i never even finished my degree
17:28 < abakedapplepie> whats a degree
17:28 < abakedapplepie> isnt that deoderant
17:28 < Hunterkll> lol
17:28 <@ravioli> either way, most tech people don't have it
17:28 < SynMonger> run malwarebytes and steal nudes for a living while charging stupid amounts of money
17:28 < Hunterkll> Nightcinder, i dropped out of college before highschool
17:29 < Hunterkll> Nightcinder, i dropped out of college before finishing highschool
17:29 < Nightcinder> what
17:29 < Hunterkll> lol
17:29 < Nightcinder> i can tell
17:29 < Hunterkll> LOL
17:29 < Hunterkll> asswipe
17:29 < SynMonger> ha
17:29 < abakedapplepie> no one is surprised
17:29 < scwizard> here's a full writeup: https://www.reddit.com/r/aws/comments/8p1exr/fun_fact_about_amazon_aurora_its_based_closely/
17:29 <+layer-eight> * scwizard →  "Fun" fact about Amazon Aurora. It's based closely enough off MYSQL's codebase, that it inherits MYSQLs bugs, including some that were fixed 2 years ago in MYSQL : aws
17:29 < Hunterkll> i'm contemplating going back and finishing one of my degree tracks
17:29 < Hunterkll> i've got most of a few AAs finished
17:29 < Nightcinder> i just don't care enough
17:30 < abakedapplepie> ew mysql
17:30 < Nightcinder> my boss wants me to go back
17:30 < Hunterkll> i only need like two semesters to finish off like 4 degrees
17:30 < Nightcinder> but my work doesn't pay for it
17:30 < Hunterkll> though two of them are cheating
17:30 < Hunterkll> since it's double major CS/Math
17:30 < Hunterkll> which is basically the same thing
17:34 < mal_will> Honestly, if I had a dollar for every jerk who's called me asking why his account keeps locking out, then we investigate it's because he violated the AUP and entered his credentials into some service or application on a friggin mac, I could afford a nice lunch and a beerinstead of leftovers today
17:34 < Nightcinder> >mac
17:34 <@ravioli> what's the matter with entering your credentials on a mac
17:34 < Nightcinder> ther'es your first problem
17:35 < servchan> big mac
17:36 < abakedapplepie> youve disallowed macs?
17:36 <+ihre> just McDonaldsWiFi
17:36 < Nightcinder> who hasn't?
17:36 < Nightcinder> o
17:37 < servchan> mceedeeez
17:38 < servchan> `seen not working cryptic1
17:38 <+layer-eight> I have no data on working
17:38 < servchan> `seen notworking cryptic1
17:38 <+layer-eight> Seen →  cryptic1 Saying morning via Log on #reddit-sysadmin 3 hours ago
17:38 < servchan> `lucky
17:38  * layer-eight points a 6 chamber revolver with one round loaded at servchan, and spins (5 slots remaining)
17:38 <+layer-eight> *click* - Looks like you get to live another day servchan
17:39 < mal_will> when you change your pssword ravioli then forget to update the mac, it locks you over and over again
17:39 < mal_will> but also it violates our AUP and I work in healthcare
17:39 < servchan> time for my AUP
17:39 < servchan> !AUP
17:40 < ebol4> they violate the AUP you bring out the AWP
17:40 < mal_will> they're never apologetic either, the people that do this. It's always acid and bile then you tell them and tey say "That's impossible, my wife dusts my mac daily! Outrage!"
17:40 <@ravioli> wat
17:40 < mal_will> then you show a screenshot of the mac's name in the event logs
17:40 <@ravioli> when you change your password on what system
17:40 < mal_will> then they say oh, and fix it
17:40 < Hunterkll> mal_will, well there's your problem - the wife is cleaning the mac and not the cock
17:40 < Hunterkll> obviously that is causing the lockouts
17:40 < mal_will> For windows ravioli
17:40 < mal_will> AD password
17:41 <@ravioli> how are they using AD from the macs?
17:41 < Hunterkll> they're not
17:41 < mal_will> they're taking their work AD passowrd, then entering it into like, thunderbird or whatever mail app macs have
17:41 < Hunterkll> ravioli, they're setting up their email on their home macs
17:41 <@ravioli> lol thunderbird is mozilla but okay
17:41 < mal_will> I saw one time it was entered in a backup service
17:41 < Hunterkll> hence why changing password at work causes lockouts to start happening
17:41 < mal_will> yeah, I don't fuck with macs
17:41 < Hunterkll> anyone ever buy shit from the MS HUP ?
17:42 < Hunterkll> is the backup dvd like the old style holo DVDs or is it just some shitty
17:42 < Hunterkll> printed label disc
17:42 < mal_will> I forget what it was called but it was a service lockout that time
17:42 < mal_will> took a lot of googling and screenshots to help that sap find the program
17:42 < Hunterkll> heh
17:43 < Hunterkll> I was forced to rush into implementation an ASA for VPN for a contract site
17:43 < mal_will> I dOnT eVeN uSe BaCkUps
17:43 < Hunterkll> well, for testing i was just like fuckit and used my AD account for the LDAP bind account for authenticating and shit
17:43 <@ravioli> i don't need backups because i have raid
17:43 < Hunterkll> well
17:43 < Hunterkll> one friday i changed my password
17:43 < Hunterkll> :)
17:43 < servchan> use frontups
17:43 < mal_will> aw man
17:43 < mal_will> then went home and drank?
17:43 < Hunterkll> yup
17:43 < Hunterkll> hahahaha
17:43 < mal_will> I have answered the oncall phone hammered af
17:43 < Hunterkll> next day i'm walking a manager who's in the office through getting teamviewer to run on their machine inside the network
17:43 < Hunterkll> while still sloshing a drink around
17:44 < mal_will> I'm the only one on call, and I'm not gonna make it make me sober
17:44 < mal_will> lol
17:44 < Hunterkll> woke up, fixed another drink, checked my phone
17:44 < Hunterkll> called back "you have to go into the office and we have to violate a lot of policies right now"
17:44 < Hunterkll> installed ASDM on his laptop and updated my passowrd
17:44 < mal_will> I never do morning after drinks
17:44 < Hunterkll> oh no
17:44 < Hunterkll> it was the start of the all day drinks
17:44 < mal_will> lol
17:44 < Hunterkll> WEEKEND WOOOO
17:45 < DomLS3> ravioli: I had a company say that one time
17:45  * A-KO sighs
17:45 < mal_will> Yee. I've answered while snowboarding and impaired, and in movies. in different country
17:45 < DomLS3> turns out they had raid 5 and failed two drives at the same time
17:45 <+A-KO> stupid people,  stupid people everywhere.
17:46 < mal_will> I mean, the calls are never that hard
17:46 < Hunterkll> mal_will, and i promptly forgot that i didn't set a proper bind account, so next time i changed my password it hapopened again
17:46 < Hunterkll> fortunately
17:46 < mal_will> dude
17:46 < Hunterkll> it was mid-day on a weekday and the calls came in
17:46 < mal_will> lol twice
17:46 < Hunterkll> so i was in office
17:46 < Hunterkll> lol
17:46 < Hunterkll> I WAS STILL HAMMERED FROM LAST NIGHT
17:46 < Hunterkll> everclear man
17:46 < mal_will> fucking, what about monday
17:46 < Hunterkll> i just wanted to fix the issue ASAP
17:46 < Hunterkll> nah
17:46 < Hunterkll> sunday is dry out day
17:46 < Hunterkll> lmao
17:46 < Hunterkll> A-KO, your network still fukt?
17:46 < mal_will> hah
17:46 < Hunterkll> ours is too
17:46 < Hunterkll> :D
17:47 <+TuxedoJack> Hunterkll: RenFaire. They fucking called me on Saturday while I was at TRF, shithouse drunk, and they expected me to do phone support for one of our idiot T1s
17:47 < Hunterkll> mal_will, nah, i just updated the PW once i realized the issue and called it, next time was like on a wednesday mid day, so i fixed it properly then
17:47 <+TuxedoJack> I laughed and hung up
17:47 < Hunterkll> lol
17:47 < Hunterkll> i woulda fuckin done that
17:47 < Hunterkll> "Warning, I am XXXXXXX wasted, do you still need me"
17:47 < Hunterkll> "Alright, lemme grab another drink and we'll figure this out"
17:48 < mal_will> I try not to slur. One time I was inside of a bar and had to whip out teamviewer on my phone
17:48 < Hunterkll> LOL
17:48 <+TuxedoJack> They called me while I was on vacation in Colorado!
17:48 < Hunterkll> me and A-KO have worked from bars before
17:48 < Hunterkll> intentionally
17:48 < mal_will> just sitting in the alcove like, sorry it's loud
17:48 <+TuxedoJack> Of fucking COURSE I'm not sober
17:48 < mal_will> hey I live there
17:48 <+TuxedoJack> Motherfucker, I'm in the Mile High State, you expect me to be sober there?
17:49 <+TuxedoJack> ... in my defense, I _MIGHT_ have overestimated my tolerance a little
17:49 < Hunterkll> lol
17:49 < Hunterkll> too much skunk where you live, eh?
17:49 <+TuxedoJack> And poured 50mg worth of infused coldbrew coffee into my mug
17:50 < Hunterkll> lol
17:51 <+TuxedoJack> What's with the culture there, though
17:51 <+TuxedoJack> Their view appears to be "taste it in everything"
17:51 <+TuxedoJack> If you can taste weed in your edibles, YOU'RE FUCKING DOING IT WRONG
17:51 < mal_will> eh
17:51 <@ravioli> kek
17:51 < mal_will> cheeba chews don't taste
17:52 < mal_will> there's also some mega cray baked items
17:52 < mal_will> like tarts. fruit tarts
17:52 <+TuxedoJack> I'm aware, the Pagosa dispensaries had those
17:52 < ny0x> I know jackshit about windows administration.  Does MMS software typically have applocker like functionality without requiring windows 10 enterprise?
17:52 <+TuxedoJack> Shit, even the Foria was a joke compared to the stuff I brew here
17:53 < Nightcinder> ur a joke
17:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> ihre: hue
17:53 < ny0x> sorry RMM not mms
17:54 < rpifan> one hour long standup meeting
17:54 < mal_will> I don't eat a lot of edibles
17:54 < mal_will> I also don't ask the vendors opinions
17:54 < ebol4> everything i eat is edible
17:54 < mal_will> but like, I haven't really tasted weed in anything
17:56 <@ravioli> anyone have any ideas for ny0x?
17:56 < mal_will> ny0x: Windows ten can be any edition
17:56 < mal_will> but 7 and 8.1 need to be enterprise, not professional, in order to run applocker
17:57 < Hunterkll> ny0x, probably not
17:58 < Hunterkll> ny0x, something like bit9 would work
17:58 < Hunterkll> with strict whitelist only
17:58 < Hunterkll> but do keep in mind that applocker isn't meant for security
17:58 < Hunterkll> and any applocker exploits/bypasses usually don't get fixed until the next windows version
17:58 < Hunterkll> bit9 is more security focused so probably more like what you want anyway
17:58 < Hunterkll> or carbon black protect as it's called now i guess
17:59 < Nightcinder> i talked to carbon black once
17:59 < Nightcinder> now they keep messaging me every few weeks
17:59 < Nightcinder> asking me
17:59 < Hunterkll> pfff
17:59 < Hunterkll> better talk to solarwinds
17:59 < Hunterkll> to drown them out
17:59 < ny0x> lol
17:59 < Nightcinder> CDW calls me every other day
18:00 < Nightcinder> they call me, then my coworker, then my boss
18:00 < Nightcinder> they lost their chance when i asked them for a quote for something and got radio silence
18:01 < Alternity> applocker has several known bypasses that are unfixable
18:01 < Alternity> afaik carbon black is the only app whitelist option with good security
18:01 < Hunterkll> there's more
18:01 < ny0x> Any other RMM recommendations for me to look at? It doesn't have to be security focused.
18:01 < Hunterkll> and a lot of the applocker so-called bypasses are fixable and have been fixed
18:01 < Hunterkll> it just requires a new version fo windows
18:01 < Hunterkll> lol
18:02 < Hunterkll> fortunately we get those every 6 months now
18:02 < ny0x> I'm looking at kaseya already
18:02 < Hunterkll> but even so, the applocker rule sets i've seen are fucking awsome
18:02 < Hunterkll> the NSA provided ones anyway
18:02 < Hunterkll> super permissive
18:02 < Hunterkll> lol
18:02 < Hunterkll> Administrators: everything
18:02 < vinrock> nightcinder i had an awesome cdw rep
18:02 < Hunterkll> users: anything in program files
18:02 < Hunterkll> lol
18:02 < vinrock> then she got a new job and i was so sad
18:02 < vinrock> my new one sucks a butt
18:08 < Casteil> that seems to happen a lot with good employes
18:08 < Casteil> employees
18:08 < Casteil> especially if the company isn't really showing them they're appreciated
18:09 < Casteil> fortunately my company seems to get that
18:10 < Alternity> kaseya and labtech are the big ones
18:10 < Alternity> there are a few others, check out r/msp for more info
18:11 < dbcc> cryptic1: can i get a +vvvvvvvvv plz
18:11 < dbcc> also fuck kaseya lol
18:12 <@cryptic1> Noooooooooo
18:12 <+orderchaos> question, how lame am I for rooting my phone so I can spoof GPS and get pokemon go stuff while sitting at my desk?
18:12 < Alternity> all of the RMM's are bad
18:12 < dbcc> do it you lil bish
18:12 <@cryptic1> No voice 4 u
18:12 <@ravioli> rekt
18:12 < dbcc> do eet
18:12 < dbcc> nao
18:12 <@cryptic1> Nawp
18:12 < Alternity> orderchaos: careful, ppl get banned pretty hard for that these days
18:12 < MrLemur> orderchaos, I don't know if that still works
18:12 < coderphive> privilege escalation denied
18:12 <+orderchaos> MrLemur: working fine :)
18:12 < coderphive> thank linux now
18:12 <+dbcc> fuck you
18:12 <+dbcc> lol
18:12 < coderphive> bant
18:13 <+ihre> 6 seconds of fame
18:13 <+orderchaos> Alternity: I just set up a loop at a mall nearby that has several pokestops and gyms so it looks like I'm walking in circles all day. I'll keep abuse low
18:13 < scwizard> apparently mysql 8.0 is "up to 2x faster" than mysql 5.7
18:13 < coderphive> I hereby set forth a proposition to devoice dbcc, cryptic1
18:13 < scwizard> i think someone showed it was 20% faster while using more RAM?
18:13 < coderphive> All in favor of this motion say, "yay"
18:14 < Hunterkll> lol amazon reviews
18:14 < Hunterkll> i'm doing all the ones on my account
18:14 < Hunterkll> lol
18:14 < Hunterkll> HDE Women's Basic Sleeveless Plain Crop Top - Fits as expected - <Male name>
18:14 < coderphive> well fine
18:14 < Sousapro> scwizard: I bet it got there in one benchmark
18:14 < coderphive> Hunterkll you would wear that
18:14 < Sousapro> scwizard: why not mariadb or postgres at this point?
18:14 < Hunterkll> coderphive,
18:14 < Hunterkll> Neonysweets Womens Cycling Running Workout Tights...
18:14 < scwizard> i dunno
18:14 < Hunterkll> that too
18:15 < scwizard> is mariadb faster than mysql?
18:15 < scwizard> i'd imagine it's the same speed
18:15 < Hunterkll> coderphive, skintight concert wear is kind of hard to shop for, honestly
18:15 < coderphive> mmm
18:15 < Sousapro> scwizard: I trust oracle as much as I would leave $1k in front of a crack addict in cash
18:15 < coderphive> my favzies
18:15 < scwizard> yeah i kinda hate orcale
18:15 < Sousapro> scwizard: I'm not overly paranoid but fuck oracle
18:15 < scwizard> but in theory they should know about making a performant database right?
18:15 < Hunterkll> coderphive, hard to portray a gay rockstar without skintight clothing underneath a flaming yellow trenchcoat
18:15 < Sousapro> and their greed
18:15 < Hunterkll> lol
18:15 < coderphive> Hunterkll tru
18:15 < coderphive> Hunterkll but
18:15 < coderphive> Hunterkll you could just make out with a man
18:15 < Sousapro> Hunterkll: doing a gravitation cosplay?
18:16 < coderphive> and hold a guitar
18:16 < Hunterkll> LOL
18:16 < Hunterkll> Sousapro, i have for years, I can actually perform the music too
18:16 < coderphive> much cheaper imo
18:16 <+dbcc> coderphive: looks like motion failed
18:16 < Sousapro> Hunterkll: awesome
18:16 < Hunterkll> Sousapro, I've also done X-Japan concerts at bars & shit
18:16 <+dbcc> i think a failed motion deserves a bant
18:16 < Hunterkll> covers
18:16 <+dbcc> cryptic1:
18:16 <+dbcc> bant
18:16 < Hunterkll> pretty good honestly
18:16 < coderphive> dbcc I know :(
18:16 < coderphive> dbcc bring your worst
18:16 < coderphive> dbcc I prefer sword fights over bans
18:16 <+dbcc> i banish you to #crude
18:17 < Hunterkll> Sousapro, my reviews make my amazon order history seem even worse than it is.
18:17 < coderphive> dbcc nominate your hero
18:17 < Alternity> juggernaut
18:17 <+dbcc> i nominate ravioli
18:17 < coderphive> pfff
18:18 < coderphive> I literally ate that for dinner last night
18:18 <@ravioli> :O
18:18 <+coderphive> pew pew pew
18:18 <@ravioli> what kind of ravioli
18:18 <+dbcc> no ravioli
18:18 <+dbcc> your supposed to bant him
18:18 <+coderphive> crab ravioli actually
18:18 <+coderphive> it was delish
18:18 <@ravioli> did it have cheese in it
18:18 < grumplestiltzkin> toasted ravioli is pretty top tier
18:18 <+coderphive> yes
18:18 <+dbcc> sounds like something a lizard person would eat
18:19 <+dbcc> i had ravioli for breakfast today
18:19 <+dbcc> the poptart brand
18:19 <+coderphive> ricotta + crab meat
18:19 < abakedapplepie> lol this mech keeb thread
18:19 < abakedapplepie> is pretty good
18:19 <+coderphive> fry in pan
18:22 < Hunterkll> Sousapro, 120pcs reusable fastening cable ties microfiber | Fiskars manual rotary craft hand drill | 9 pack syringes 10ml,3ml,1ml sterile | 175 feet bubble wrap | iPhone X wallet case | thermaltake automated power supply tester | 99% isoproply alcohol | 20-piece travel kit | 1 gallon white vinegar | white women's double grommet leather belt | mini sewing kit | surface book rugged case | 1 gallon tabasco | stanley
18:22 < Hunterkll> men's steel toe industrial boots slip on | 24 pack beef ramen | short lightning cable | strawberry flavoring | 3 wig caps | continuous tractor feed paper 1 ream | cute cat glass cup tea mug with fish tea strainer | MSI X299 motherboard | women's workout tights/running shorts | 500 qtips | USB to RS232 adapter | 100 count tylenol extra strenght packets, 2 capsules per | 2x typewriter ribbon | 3x funnel set | womens
18:22 < Hunterkll> bike shorts | 1x22" black leather dog collars (multiple) | tricerataco taco holder | fingerless winter gloves, black | 8 duoble pack bounty paper towels | all my friends are dead | shibari premium personal lubricant | samsung galaxy S8+ case | 12 pcs 60ml square glass liquor bottles | iron on jean patches | Asus TPM-L R2.0 | radioshack wirewrapping tool | 2 48oz bottles of lemon juice
18:23 < Hunterkll> WOAH
18:23 < mrghostman> wtf
18:23 < Hunterkll> that wasn't supposed to happen
18:23 < Hunterkll> but uh, there's my amazon review list i am filling out
18:23 < Hunterkll> -_-
18:23 < grumplestiltzkin> !nominate Hunterkll Pro shopping list spam breh
18:23 < Alternity> do you do that to get free stuff
18:23 < Alternity> from vine or w/e its called
18:23 < Hunterkll> Alternity, no
18:23 < mrghostman>  women's workout tights/running shorts
18:23 < mrghostman> hrmmm
18:23 < Hunterkll> i do it to make my 'review list' empty
18:24 < Alternity> i've bought many items on amazon but dont think i've ever left a review
18:24 < Alternity> i am one of the silent mass
18:24 < SynMonger> the lube any good?
18:24 < Hunterkll> Alternity, amazom.com/feedback
18:24 <+dbcc> i almost never leave a review on amazon
18:24 < Hunterkll> SynMonger, i mean, it works
18:24 < Alternity> pass
18:24 < Hunterkll> it's generic low cost
18:24 < Hunterkll> Alternity, that's feedback for the 3rd party sellers themselves
18:24 < Hunterkll> like ebay feedback
18:24 < Hunterkll> not for the items
18:24 < Alternity> oic
18:24 < Hunterkll> i'm just 5-star'ing everything anyway
18:24 < Hunterkll> since i haven't had any issues
18:24 < Alternity> taco holder?  really
18:24 < Hunterkll> DUDE
18:24 < Hunterkll> ITS AWSOME
18:24 < Hunterkll> YOU NEED ONE
18:24 < Alternity> we're all judging you right now
18:24 < grumplestiltzkin> Hunterkll: all of those items were for the same party, werent they?
18:25 < Hunterkll> hahahah
18:25 < Hunterkll> you know
18:25 < Sousapro> Hunterkll: https://www.amazon.com/Passion-Lubes-Natural-Water-Based-Lubricant/dp/B005MR3IVO
18:25 < Hunterkll> grumplestiltzkin, except the computer parts and the typerwriter ribbon/paper
18:25 < Sousapro> This seems like a reasonable amount for a con LOL
18:25 < Hunterkll> pretty much yea
18:25 < Hunterkll> and the glass bottles - those were for my carolina reaper hot sauce i made
18:25 < Hunterkll> it's all anime convention stuff
18:25 < Hunterkll> the syringes are for mixing up stuff for vapes
18:25 < Hunterkll> lol
18:25 < Hunterkll> same with the falvorings
18:26 < Hunterkll> i got one of those fancy ones to piss people off with
18:26 < Sousapro> I need to get a vape pen
18:26 < Hunterkll> i just use the analog shit :P
18:26 < Alternity> no you dont
18:26 < Hunterkll> but the vapes are fun to troll people with
18:26 <+ihre> tricerataco taco holder, lol
18:26 < Hunterkll> yea dude
18:26 < Sousapro> Run around shooting smoke out of my nose like a dragon
18:26 < Hunterkll> lol
18:26 < Hunterkll> grumplestiltzkin, ihre https://www.amazon.com/KidsFunwares-TriceraTACO-Taco-Holder-Prehistoric/dp/B01LZNTN8S
18:26 < Alternity> dont do drugs
18:26 < Hunterkll> its fucking awsome
18:26 < Hunterkll> it holds 2 tacos
18:26 < Hunterkll> TWO
18:26 < Hunterkll> like, the same amount that come in a del taco meal
18:26 <@ravioli> anyone else watch the trial of tim heidecker? it's a 5 hour video on youtube and it's fantastic.
18:26 <+coderphive> that's a deal
18:26 <+ihre> Hunterkll: fucking A
18:26 <+ihre> need one as well
18:26 <+dbcc> link
18:26 < Hunterkll> A-KO bought one minutes after i showed it to him
18:27 < Hunterkll> dbcc, https://www.amazon.com/KidsFunwares-TriceraTACO-Taco-Holder-Prehistoric/dp/B01LZNTN8S
18:27 <+coderphive> that's 5.86 per taco
18:27 <+dbcc> no i meant ravioli  lol
18:27 <+ihre> wat
18:27 < Hunterkll> pfff
18:27 < Hunterkll> TRICERATACO
18:27 < Hunterkll> coderphive, per taco holding spot
18:27 < Hunterkll> not per taco
18:27 < Hunterkll> you don't actualyl get tacos with it
18:27 < Hunterkll> lol
18:27 <+coderphive> rip
18:27 <+ihre> DINOSAURS + TACOS = PREHISTORIC AWESOMENESS
18:27 < Hunterkll> its actually pretty big
18:27 <+ihre> sounds about right
18:27 <@ravioli> dbcc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YWJcqISKJQ
18:27 <+coderphive> can we unify our language here
18:27 <+layer-eight> * ravioli →  YouTube → Trial of Tim Heidecker → ⚘ 164,381 ↑ 3,145 ↓ 87 ✍ 951
18:27 <+coderphive> taco sled
18:27 <+dbcc> is this legit
18:28 <@ravioli> it's in the same universe as decker
18:28 < grumplestiltzkin> Hunterkll: tricerataco is pretty bamf
18:28 <@ravioli> but it's presented as legit.
18:28 <+ihre> Hunterkll: the TACOSaurusRex isnt bad either
18:28 < felda> Taco trucks on every street corner is more like it
18:28 < Sousapro> Hunterkll: I just ordered one. Damn you lol
18:28 <+ihre> nachosaurus is a bit weak
18:28 <+coderphive> tacofelda.io
18:28 < grumplestiltzkin> ravioli: https://www.amazon.com/Fred-Friends-PSAUR-PASTASAURUS-Server/dp/B002L162HQ
18:29 < Hunterkll> hahahahahaa
18:29 <+coderphive> tbh I don't view a city as "modern" until it has a taco truck route
18:29 < Alternity> i used to work over top of a taco shop
18:29 < fredopasta> Who what
18:29 < Alternity> got kind of sick of tacos
18:29 < grumplestiltzkin> theres a bronotsaurus soup ladel too.   There's almost enough to do a whole theme kitchen
18:30 <+coderphive> fredopasta it's your time to shine
18:30 <+coderphive> r/beetlejuicing
18:30 <@ravioli> my town got a mexican place recently for the first time earlier this year
18:30 < DoctorDick> How white is your town?
18:31 <@ravioli> dbcc: it's so good. i watched all of it over like 4 days.
18:31 < grumplestiltzkin> https://www.amazon.com/Fred-SAUCED-Ravioli-Spoon-Rest/dp/B00QYCBK48    last one.   ravioli you need dis
18:31 <@ravioli> DoctorDick: 96.7%
18:32 < fredopasta> got damn
18:32 <@ravioli> grumplestiltzkin: thank you for this
18:32 < fredopasta> fuck ravioli I NEED THESE
18:32 < DoctorDick> ravioli, Damn dude
18:32 < grumplestiltzkin> I dig the circ saw pizza cutter too
18:33 < DoctorDick> ravioli, You're missing out on a ton of great food
18:34 < ravioli> i mean, there's also only a few thousand people here to begin with, so there aren't many places to eat.
18:34 < abakedapplepie> my city is resurfacing a major road this summer
18:34 < abakedapplepie> and then immediately tearing it out and replacing it
18:34 < abakedapplepie> what the fuck
18:35 < abakedapplepie> they say it wont last thru the replacement so it needs to be resurfaced first
18:41 <@cryptic1> ravioli, try food its good
18:41  * cryptic1 goes back to work
18:41 < ravioli> get back to work
18:43 <+dbcc> clean out your desk
18:44 < gnupluslinux> You all suck
18:44 < gnupluslinux> Get back to twerk. The lot of ya
18:44 < DomLS3> s/$/ just like linux
18:44 < DomLS3> fak
18:45 < DomLS3> glad to see layer-eight is still a shit bot
18:47 < L3gacy> Anyone have a link to a ATX EPS12V PSU with THREE 4 pin EPS connectors?
18:47 <+dbcc> layer-eight is a bastard
18:47 <+dbcc> and not the original
18:48 <+dbcc> and is a lil bish
18:50 < JollyRgrs> sooo... new pixel 3 is going to be exclusive to verizon?
18:50 < L3gacy> wut?
18:50 < L3gacy> I have an i7 here with an ASUS ROG mobo, it requires _3_ 4 pin EPS12v connectors.  Where can I find a power supply that will do this?
18:51 < ebol4> what kind of i7 are you running
18:51 < ebol4> i have a 7700k and i believe that only needs 1 4-pin?
18:51 < L3gacy> It's a client's rig.  He said he put in the NEW PSU, but it shuts off mid boot
18:52 < L3gacy> Cant get in long enough to check cpu
18:52 < L3gacy> EVERYTHING is connected correctly.  Only issue is the UNUSED EPS12v 5pin
18:53 < L3gacy> I think it's a 6XXX i7
18:53 < DomLS3> L3gacy: sell it and buy a
18:53 < DomLS3> Dell
18:53 < L3gacy> I have a dell :)
18:54 < ebol4> purchase adele
18:54 < L3gacy> being srs here
18:54 < ebol4> i have never heard of a CPU that uses that many 4 pins, i don't know that any PSU provides that many
18:55 < L3gacy> crud
18:56 < abakedapplepie> i feel like ive seen 3 before but that was on a proprietary dell motherboard without an atx connector
18:57 < ebol4> that makes sense
18:57 < abakedapplepie> and it may not have been a standard 4 pin for that matter
18:57 < L3gacy> this is an ASUS ROG board
18:57 < rpifan> bonnaroo
18:57 < abakedapplepie> i know
18:57 < abakedapplepie> im just adding useless information
18:57 < DOMF> big 'ole comcrap voice outage
18:57 < abakedapplepie> :)
18:57 < DOMF> couldn't even log into their customer portal
18:58 < technonerd> I'd assume the extras are for over clocking
18:59 < L3gacy> It's an ASUS Crosshair V Formula Z board... AMD
18:59 < L3gacy> not intel.  Dude doesnt even know his own cpu
18:59 < ebol4> L3gacy: maybe it's overheating instantly and the board is shutting itself down, like he forgot to apply thermal paste or something
18:59 < ebol4> i had a server doing that for a while because the heatsink was broken
19:00 < technonerd> Bad thermal job
19:00 < komugi> Do intel still make mainboards?
19:03 < Hunterkll> for servers and workstations
19:03 < Hunterkll> yes
19:03 < Hunterkll> L3gacy, FYI
19:03 < Hunterkll> L3gacy, just use the 8 pin CPU connector
19:03 < Hunterkll> don't worry about the other 4 pin
19:04 < JFDkthx> gotta make up for the time i was working
19:04 < JFDkthx> SHIT POST SHIT POST
19:04 < JFDkthx> RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
19:04 < JFDkthx> mods are asleep
19:04 < JFDkthx> fuk u
19:04 < Hunterkll> L3gacy, the extra 4 pin is for EXTRA JUICE if overclocking mad
19:05 < Hunterkll> L3gacy, if you're only running stock or mild OC, just use the 8 pin connector
19:05 < Hunterkll> https://www.amazon.com/KidsFunwares-TriceraTACO-Taco-Holder-Prehistoric/dp/B01LZNTN8S
19:05 < Hunterkll> er
19:05 < JFDkthx> Hunterkll: dont mind me and my 2 8 pin connectors
19:05 < Hunterkll> lol
19:05 < Hunterkll> JFDkthx, yea you and your dual socket mohterboard right? :P
19:05 < JFDkthx> no
19:05 < Hunterkll> anyway
19:05 < JFDkthx> tr4 requires 2 8 pins
19:05 < Hunterkll> i need to hook up my extra 4 pin
19:05 < Hunterkll> LOL WHY
19:05 < JFDkthx> POWAH
19:05 < Hunterkll> JFDkthx, I can run 1000W draw from the CPU on my 8+4
19:05 < Hunterkll> 2 8 pin is retarded
19:06 < Hunterkll> lol
19:06 < JFDkthx> you can run it with 1 8 pin
19:06 < Hunterkll> yes i've had my system peak at 1000W draw on the CPU
19:06 < Hunterkll> :P
19:06 < Hunterkll> yes that fucker was running on a temporary LN2 setup
19:06 < Hunterkll> :D
19:06 < JFDkthx> there are just some stability issues
19:06 < JFDkthx> psh
19:09 < JFDkthx> god fucking dammit
19:09 < JFDkthx> dzdo: unkown uid 99991: who are you?
19:09 < Hunterkll> https://twitter.com/RandBallsStu/status/1003817212283686914/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.distractify.com%2Ftrending%2F2018%2F06%2F04%2FFxzXg%2Fdemi-lovato-hired-prostitute
19:09 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Stu on Twitter: "Paragraph 1: ok Paragraph 2: ok Paragraph 3: wait Paragraph 4: OH Paragraph 5: *airplane flies overhead with a banner reading WELCOME TO HELL MOM*… https://t.co/RRmsZx0xIv"
19:09 < JFDkthx> you know who i fucking am
19:10 <@cryptic1> JFDkthx, back to work
19:10 <@cryptic1> Hunterkll, back to work
19:10 <@cryptic1> technonerd, back to work
19:10 <@cryptic1> komugi, back to work
19:10 <@cryptic1> ebol4, back to work
19:10 <@cryptic1> felda, back to work
19:10 <@cryptic1> L3gacy, back to work
19:10 <@cryptic1> DOMF, back to work
19:10 <@cryptic1> abakedapplepie, back to work
19:11 <@cryptic1> felda, back to work
19:11 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, back to work
19:11 <@cryptic1> killdash9, back to work
19:11 < DOMF> what? I am working!
19:11 <@cryptic1> dbcc, back to work
19:11 < felda> wow two back to works before I even finished typing
19:11 < felda> okay I see how it is
19:11 <@cryptic1> rpifan, back to work
19:11 < DOMF> cryptic1, back to not flooding?
19:11 < felda> JollyRgrs pretty sure cryptic1 is spamming
19:11 < felda> RIKT BOI
19:11 < vinrock> SHOTS FIRED
19:11 < Hunterkll> cryptic1,  back to sluttin
19:11 <@cryptic1> BACK TO WORK ALL OF YOU
19:11  * pupp3r pretends to go back to work
19:12 < silentfury-s4pro> what is work?
19:12 < felda>  /topic Beatings will continue until moral improves
19:12  * Hunterkll smokes crack with pupp3r 
19:12 < silentfury-s4pro> is that something the pointy haireds do?
19:12 < Hunterkll> silentfury-s4pro, it's that thing where you look at this laptop of the people who give you money every so often to check email
19:12 < Hunterkll> and then go back to irc
19:12 < JFDkthx> goddammit
19:12 < JFDkthx> as much as i hate nis
19:13 < JFDkthx> i hate centrify more
19:13 < JFDkthx> and i hate idm even more
19:14 < rpifan> meh
19:14 < rpifan> never
19:14 < rpifan> i sleep
19:14 < rpifan> must rest for drugs
19:14 < rpifan> and deth
19:14 < JFDkthx> good night
19:14 < Hunterkll> ♿️
19:14  * pupp3r urgently googles what centrify is
19:14 < JFDkthx> sweet gae prince
19:15 < JFDkthx> oh great
19:15 < JFDkthx> fun stops now
19:15 < Hunterkll> yo
19:15 < Hunterkll> cryptic1 smooth as fuck
19:15 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/t7orwFB.png
19:15 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 156,496 bytes
19:15 < rpifan> pupp3r,
19:15 < rpifan> have u joined my pack
19:15 < JFDkthx> Code_Man65: have i ever told you that i admire your for your ability to ruin everything i've ever loved.
19:16 < JFDkthx> i swear, you like nothing good.
19:16 <@Code_Man65> No, but I accept your compliment
19:16 < abakedapplepie> lol
19:16 < JFDkthx> you're the type of person that likes chest pain, bus fumes, and getting kicked in the junk
19:16 < abakedapplepie> i like bus fumes
19:16 < pupp3r> rpifan: i don't think so. what's your pack?
19:16 < cryptic1> omg they have taken over again
19:16 < cryptic1> HALP!!!
19:18 < Hunterkll> cryptic1, what color panites u got?
19:18 < felda> I take joy in knowing I helped Code_Man65 need to have specific words on highlight / alert
19:18  * cryptic1 looks around
19:18 <@Code_Man65> What kind of words felda?
19:18 < felda> like
19:18 < cryptic1> <_<
19:18 < cryptic1> >_>
19:18 < felda> RAID is a viable backup
19:18 < felda> FONR
19:18 < Hunterkll> weait
19:18 < Hunterkll> wait
19:18 < cryptic1> FONR!!
19:18 < Hunterkll> is felda on my site
19:19 < felda> Raise your donger  ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ
19:19 < Hunterkll> sWTF
19:19 < Hunterkll> FELDA ISNT ON MY SITE
19:19 < felda> and other words
19:19 < felda> lmao
19:19  * Hunterkll fixes site
19:19 < JollyRgrs> cryptic1: pls stop kicking ppl and give me and cryptic1 back ops
19:19 < JollyRgrs> err, Code_Man65
19:19 < felda> Hunterkll which one is your website?
19:19 < cryptic1> yeah Code_Man65
19:19 < cryptic1> op thief
19:19 < cryptic1> hah poor crayon
19:19 < felda> wow rude
19:20 <@Code_Man65> There, I have fixed the glitch
19:20 < JollyRgrs> Code_Man65: cryptic1 is a doodie head, but pls don't q me
19:21 < JFDkthx> welp this might be bad
19:21 < JFDkthx> service autofs restart
19:21 < JollyRgrs> Code_Man65: cryptic1 is a doodie head, but pls don't q me
19:21 < JFDkthx> returns
19:21 < JollyRgrs> pls also q JFDkthx... he's a super doodie head
19:21 < JFDkthx> Error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Could not connect: No such file or directory (g-io-error-quark, 1)"
19:22 < Hunterkll> felda, https://www.hugebuttholes.com
19:22 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Home of #reddit-sysadmin
19:22 < felda> aww YIS I got that rainbow text
19:22 < ebol4> yeet
19:22 < Hunterkll> the RIPs are the ragequitters
19:22 < Hunterkll> oh
19:22 < Hunterkll> FYI
19:22 < Hunterkll> that website is iphone compliant
19:22 < Hatter> perm ragequitters?
19:22 < Hunterkll> works fine on mobile
19:22 < Hunterkll> Hatter, maybe
19:22 < Hunterkll> they haven't come back
19:22 < Hunterkll> its been like 2 days
19:23 < Hunterkll> they're in other channels
19:23 < Hunterkll> lol
19:23 < Hunterkll> it almost seems like aName quit freenode entirely
19:23 < Hunterkll> lol
19:23 < Hunterkll> after someone harassed him around channels after he ragequit
19:23 < Hunterkll> oh well
19:23 < JFDkthx> felda is here
19:23 < JFDkthx> so is McDonaldsWiFi
19:23 < JFDkthx> and vinrock
19:24 < gnupluslinux> Aaaaaahhhhh
19:24 < JFDkthx> oh
19:24 < JFDkthx> the rips
19:24 < JFDkthx> gotcha
19:24 < gnupluslinux> Fucking laptop wont update past 1511
19:24 < gnupluslinux> Everything else cleared for 1803
19:24 < JollyRgrs> ooh, felda got pretty colors
19:24 < gnupluslinux> Wtf wsus
19:24 < Hunterkll> lol
19:24 < felda> yes I am a special boy
19:24 < JFDkthx> s/special/vgood
19:24 <+layer-eight> [SED JFDkthx/felda] yes I am a vgood boy
19:24 < JollyRgrs> gnupluslinux: why won't it?
19:25 < gnupluslinux> Not sure
19:25 < Sousapro> we should probably stop alienating our users lol
19:25 < gnupluslinux> Im tempted to scrap it and just provision another
19:25 < Sousapro> the memberlist in this chan has dropped by 300 in the last 2 months
19:25 < gnupluslinux> Good
19:26 < Sousapro> gnupluslinux: it's probably just super stale. I'd drop a physical usb key into it and upgrade
19:27 < Sousapro> gnupluslinux: 1511 is probably unstable at this point, especially if a user cared so little as to leave it on the same version for 3 years straight lol
19:31 < abakedapplepie> Sousapro: really?
19:32 < abakedapplepie> we lost 300 idlers??
19:32 < abakedapplepie> damn
19:32 <+giant_it_burrit> Hunterkll: are you ready to pound your head against the wall?
19:32 < Hunterkll> giant_it_burrit, no, but i'll be in atlantic city tomorrow night
19:32 < Hunterkll> so meet me in the diamond lounge in caesars and we can drink away your problems
19:32 < Hunterkll> <3
19:32 < Hunterkll> lol
19:32 <+giant_it_burrit> i dont drink
19:32 <+giant_it_burrit>  #noproblems
19:32 < Hunterkll> i can obliviate myself
19:33 < Hunterkll> that way i don't remember anything you tell me
19:33 < abakedapplepie> `seen precise
19:33 <+layer-eight> I need someone to look for abakedapplepie
19:33 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, hasn't been back since he ragequit
19:33 < Hunterkll> he's in other channels though
19:33 < abakedapplepie> he ragequit?? lol
19:33 < abakedapplepie> got any logs?
19:33 <+giant_it_burrit> that would be too easy Hunterkll
19:33 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, called me the reason why this channel is unhelpful and that i'm the super super toxic
19:33 < Hunterkll> lol
19:33 < gnupluslinux> Hes... around
19:33 < abakedapplepie> i mean, he ragequit IRL too
19:33 < abakedapplepie> walked off the job i got him
19:33 < gnupluslinux> Not active
19:33 < Hunterkll> wait what?
19:33 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, like, in the past few days?
19:33 < abakedapplepie> no this was 2 months ago now
19:33 < Hunterkll> oh
19:34 < Hunterkll> lol
19:34 < abakedapplepie> maybe a bit longer
19:34 < gnupluslinux> Damn
19:34 < Hunterkll> aName also ragequit the same day as precise from here
19:34 < Hunterkll> lol
19:34 < gnupluslinux> Feels like it was only a few weeks
19:34 < abakedapplepie> i guess "walked off" is a little harsh
19:34 < abakedapplepie> he was polite about it just didnt want to work there anymore starting immediately
19:34 < abakedapplepie> too much stress i guess
19:34 < abakedapplepie> came in, dropped off his shit, shook hands, and dipped
19:34 < Hunterkll> lol
19:36 < JFDkthx> Hunterkll: aname has been in here recently though
19:36 < Hunterkll> JFDkthx, this happened like 2 days ago
19:36 < JFDkthx> oh
19:36 < Hunterkll> lol
19:36 < JFDkthx> yall start too much shit
19:37 < JFDkthx> but apparently i went on a 30 minute rant about somebody's kid.
19:37 < JFDkthx> who am i to judge.
19:37 < Hunterkll> lol
19:37 < corn266> JFDkthx: My DSS rep came to the office today and said veracrypt is okay to use as long as it meets DAAPM requirements
19:37 < Hunterkll> buncha snowflakes here
19:37 < JFDkthx> corn266: nice
19:37 < JFDkthx> did they do the audit today?
19:38 < corn266> No I requested her come out to verify we were doing everything correctly; she'll be coming out in 8 days to make the determination
19:39 < JFDkthx> any bad news yet?
19:39 < corn266> Nothing past "get your paperwork done"
19:39 < JFDkthx> yea
19:39 < JFDkthx> god it's fucking 50 degrees outside today and the fucking ac is on in the building
19:39 < JFDkthx> so cold
19:39 < corn266> Also we gotta get 38TB of externals delivered by next thursday or we can't set them as part of the system
19:40 < JFDkthx> good ruck
19:40 < JFDkthx> fuck, i think i hosed this server
19:41 < JollyRgrs> JFDkthx: nope, this server is still working
19:41 < JollyRgrs> JFDkthx: also, pls send cold weather my way
19:43 <+giant_it_burrit> is there an ad cleanup script to remove anything that hasnt checked in in ~x days
19:45 <@Code_Man65> Search-ADaccount -inactive <days>
19:48 < Alternity> giant_it_burrit: ad tidy is the classic tool
19:48 < Alternity> but it's not maintained anymore, plenty of posh scripts out there for it
19:49 < Alternity> just have to make sure you are querying all dc's since lastlogondate is not super reliable
19:49 < Alternity> Code_Man65: does that query all dc's?
19:49 <@Code_Man65> Yes Alternity
19:49 < corn266> good god why are security labels so expensive
19:50 < JFDkthx> to limit the amount of classified data of course
19:50 < JollyRgrs> if you are going for computers only x days or older... i think default is 2 weeks or 15 days to tolerance before all DC's have teh same lastlogondate
19:50 < JFDkthx> that way on the 1% can process ts
19:51 < JFDkthx> JollyRgrs: default is 15 days
19:51 < JFDkthx> but that can be change
19:51 < JFDkthx> d
19:51 < JollyRgrs> yeah
19:51 < JollyRgrs> we changed ours at some point to like 5 or 7 days i think
19:51 < JFDkthx> mhm mhm
19:52 < JollyRgrs> but yeah, anything beyond that date... like if you search for 30 days stale or older... will not have to worry about one DC being more up to date than teh other
19:52 < JollyRgrs> so you don't have to do the "search all DCs and get newest per object"
19:53 <+SpeakerToMeat> Is spotify working for you guys?
19:53 < JollyRgrs> so, working on a stupid SSRS pie chart for O365 versions... there's way too many versions to fit into this thing. is there a way to get like the top 5 versions, and then lump the rest together in "other" category.... easily?
19:53 < JFDkthx> rip
19:53 <+giant_it_burrit> how long does account inactive time
19:53 < JFDkthx> have to INT an ls /
19:53 < JollyRgrs> since version number changes, it'd have to be a dynamic CASE or anything else being used
19:53 < JFDkthx> server is toast
19:53 < ravioli> SpeakerToMeat: yes
19:54 < SOLxCrono> anyone have this? https://smile.amazon.com/Blue-NAND-1TB-SSD-WDS100T2B0B/dp/B073SB2MXT?sa-no-redirect=1
19:55 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, JFDkthx https://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/22461.understanding-the-ad-account-attributes-lastlogon-lastlogontimestamp-and-lastlogondate.aspx
19:55 < SOLxCrono> kinda a long shot but i figured i'd ask
19:55 < JollyRgrs> Every girl’s a story, call it morning glory
19:55 < JollyRgrs> She works at the Pink Pony, oh
19:55 < Hunterkll> SOLxCrono, I have the 512GB WD Black
19:55 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Understanding the AD Account attributes - LastLogon, LastLogonTimeStamp and LastLogonDate - TechNet Articles - United States (English) - TechNet Wiki
19:55 < SOLxCrono> do you like it?
19:55 < Hunterkll> uh
19:55 < Hunterkll> it works?
19:55 < SOLxCrono> fair enough i suppose
19:55 < Hunterkll> i mean
19:55 < Hunterkll> when you're in name brand territory
19:56 < Hunterkll> just shop by price
19:56 < Hunterkll> fuckit
19:56 < JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: yeah,. thanks for pointing that out, i remember reading on it before... i just add timestamp as habit now
19:56 < Hunterkll> my C: is a 2TB Samsung 960 Pro though
19:56 < JFDkthx> i wonder how well redhats recovery tool works.
19:56 < JollyRgrs> crap... or is it date
19:56 < JollyRgrs> now i forget
19:56 < Hunterkll> that was more of a "fuck it, give me the most expensive one" purchase
19:56 < felda> How many of you guys use M.2 drives?
19:56 < Hunterkll> felda, I have 2 in my desktop
19:56  * JollyRgrs is a poor man
19:56 < Hunterkll> the 2TB960 Pro and the WD Black 512GB
19:56 < felda> I still haven't used a device that uses M.2 :(
19:56 < SOLxCrono> https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01LXS4TY6/ref=twister_B01N78T39B?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
19:56 <+TuxedoJack> dafuq
19:56 < Hunterkll> i still have 1 M.2 slot open
19:56 < SOLxCrono> 437 holy moly
19:56 <+TuxedoJack> GO get one
19:56 < JollyRgrs> i'm still in the "what's an m.2" payscale
19:56 < Alternity> all of our work laptops are m.2 now
19:56 < Hunterkll> my board takes 3 M.2 slots
19:57 < Hunterkll> TuxedoJack, if he's just gonna get a sata one there's no point
19:57 < Alternity> been using a nvme drive for year and a half
19:57 <+TuxedoJack> I've got a 256GB Sandisk SATA M.2 SSD in my box that was... abstracted... from a client machine
19:57 < Alternity> xps15 ftw
19:57 <+TuxedoJack> I need to get an NVMe SSD
19:57 < rpifan> enimen vd
19:57 < Hunterkll> ya, I have 3 M.2 slots + the weird SSD plug that's sata-ish
19:57 < rpifan> gah i really odnt like that man
19:57 < Hunterkll> on my motherboard
19:57 < rpifan> he is really a homophone
19:57 < Alternity> Dell puts mid tier NVMe drives in their machines though.  they send reviewers xps 15 with samsung drives
19:57 < Alternity> a bit dirty...
19:57 <+TuxedoJack> And then they send out SATA drives for users
19:57 < Hunterkll> Alternity, my NVMe is a samsung
19:57 < Hunterkll> Alternity, so is the drive in both of my surface devices
19:58 <+TuxedoJack> https://www.frys.com/product/9560352?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
19:58 <+layer-eight> * TuxedoJack →  Fry's Electronics |
19:58 <+TuxedoJack> Huh. Neat
19:58 < Alternity> so far out of the couple dozen xps13 and xps15 we have purchased we have zero samsung nvme's :/
19:58 <+SpeakerToMeat> Huh I think my spotify accoutn was stolen, or banned :/
19:58 < Hunterkll> Alternity, though, the NVMe samsung I have in my desktop is a 960 Pro
19:58 < Hunterkll> :P
19:58 < Alternity> gotta get dat mlc
19:58 < felda> are WD Greens still alright for long term video storage?
19:58 < Hunterkll> SOLxCrono, note - the 1TB960 pro you linked is NVMe - the first SSD (WD Blue) is SATA
19:59 < Hunterkll> NVMe is far faster /more bandwidth than SATA
19:59 < Hunterkll> since it's directly PCIe connected
19:59 < Hunterkll> thats why its more expensive
19:59 < Hunterkll> SOLxCrono, this is my C: drive - https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-MZ-V6P2T0BW-Solid-State-Business/dp/B01M210JMG/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1528307957&sr=1-3&keywords=2TB+960
20:00 < rpifan> green is ok
20:00 < Hunterkll> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147598
20:00 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  SAMSUNG 960 PRO M.2 2TB NVMe PCI-Express 3.0 x4 Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V6P2T0BW - Newegg.com
20:00 < rpifan> just remember pink molly is bad ok
20:00 < Hunterkll> huh, it's $100 cheaper than when i boguht it now
20:00 < rpifan> thats RC
20:00 < Hunterkll> lol
20:00 < rpifan> no mdma
20:01 < Hunterkll> Alternity, SOLxCrono  - https://i.imgur.com/QIoHROd.png
20:01 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 194,075 bytes
20:01 < Hunterkll> this is my system
20:01 < JFDkthx> halp
20:01 < JFDkthx> auditd failed 2 start
20:01 < Hunterkll> lol
20:01 < JFDkthx> i need an adult
20:01 < Hunterkll> JFDkthx, u failed the audit
20:01 < Hunterkll> ur fired
20:02 < rpifan> lol
20:03 < JFDkthx> oops
20:03 < JFDkthx> bluetooth-util is trying to start
20:03 < SOLxCrono> 30 tb lol
20:03 < SOLxCrono> you guys have convinced me to wait it out for lower pci x4 prices
20:04 < SOLxCrono> 588 for a samsung 970 pro right now on amazon
20:04 < JFDkthx> im happy with my 960s
20:05 < Hunterkll> SOLxCrono, yea, uh, prices have already 'gone down'
20:05 < Hunterkll> lol
20:05 < Hunterkll> 960 pro is x4, too
20:05 < SOLxCrono> well, they need to go down even more
20:05 < SOLxCrono> lowest i've found is 498
20:06 < SOLxCrono> free expedited shipping too
20:06 < SOLxCrono> :>
20:07 < Hunterkll> lol
20:07 < SOLxCrono> honestly something like this has longevity to it so i can justify the higher cost
20:07 < SOLxCrono> i also have a bed that is collapsed in one section
20:08 < SOLxCrono> i think i'll take the faster load times over a better nights sleep
20:08 < SOLxCrono> who needs sleep when you have video games
20:09 < JFDkthx> SOLxCrono: when i was 20 i used the same justification in buying a comfortable computer chair over a mattress at all
20:09 < JFDkthx> i slept on a pile of blankets
20:09 < JFDkthx> and depression
20:09 < SOLxCrono> but were you playing destiny 2?
20:10 < JFDkthx> if all i had was destiny 2 back then i would have actually killed myself.
20:10 < JollyRgrs> you kids these days are dum
20:11 < ravioli> relt
20:11 < JollyRgrs> i was all for staying up late and gaming... but then i'd also sleep in just as late.  sleep is precious and should be treated as such
20:12 < JFDkthx> JollyRgrs: you cant expect a college dropout to make good decisions. 1) i chose to go to college 2)i didnt even finish it, all i got was debt
20:12 < JFDkthx> ergo, i dont need a mattress
20:12 < JollyRgrs> i am a college dropout
20:13 < technonerd>  I've missed plenty of raves because I like sleep
20:13 < JollyRgrs> i can expect good decisions
20:13 < JFDkthx> technonerd: and the fact that you werent invited.
20:13 < technonerd> I'm on the email list
20:14 <+SpeakerToMeat> Ok recovered my password
20:14 < Casteil> aww yeah
20:14 <+giant_it_burrit> does laps tiie into sccm?
20:15 < Casteil> the outdoor cat that's been hanging around my house caught a chipmunk today (finally)
20:15 < Casteil> https://i.imgur.com/5MlTFIC.png :D
20:15 <+layer-eight> * Casteil →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 311,594 bytes
20:15 < Casteil> one chipmunk down, 397 to go
20:17 < StrongBad> y'all have a disclaimer on your computer lab machines? something something about illegal activity and complying with copyright law?
20:17 <@killdash9> college dropout commiseration club meets on Thursdays I thought
20:17 < JFDkthx> StrongBad: we have a disclaimer on all machines
20:18 < JFDkthx> its mandated by the guvmint
20:18 < StrongBad> got a sample?
20:18 < StrongBad> I'm writing one
20:18 < abakedapplepie> "use your fucking brain"
20:18 < JFDkthx> whats that website that has computer policies for beginners
20:18 < ravioli> make sure you use the phrase "no expectation of privacy"
20:18 < abakedapplepie> babysfirstsecurityaudit.com
20:18 < StrongBad> what do you mean ravioli
20:18 <@killdash9> "Big Brother is Watching"
20:19 < ravioli> StrongBad: users should have "no expectation of privacy" while using company/school/whatever-owned computers and networks.
20:19 < StrongBad> good point
20:21 < silentfury-s4pro> ravioli: dependent on the country's laws you're in.
20:21 < ravioli> StrongBad: ^^^^^
20:22 < ravioli> StrongBad: are you still using the lappy 486's?
20:22 < silentfury-s4pro> in soviet canuckistan, employees have an expectation of privacy on company-owned machines according to our highest court. so ymmv
20:23 < Sousapro> JFDkthx: are we talking Windows group policy or a formal company Acceptable Use Policy
20:23 < Casteil> I do anything personal in an incognito tab and I'm usually connected via my home vpn so eh
20:23 < JFDkthx> latte
20:23 < JFDkthx> r
20:23 < Casteil> work can't really 'spy' on me
20:24 < Casteil> I don't even have my irc credentials saved so no one from work could get on here and talk to you fucks as me XD
20:24 <+giant_it_burrit> Hunterkll: i want the more expensive cal dont i?
20:24 < StrongBad> I'm at work ravioli, running a Corpy NT6
20:24 <+giant_it_burrit> or JollyRgrs
20:24 < Hunterkll> giant_it_burrit, for?
20:25 <+giant_it_burrit> endpoints for sccm
20:25 < Hunterkll> giant_it_burrit, there's not a more expensive one ...
20:25 <+giant_it_burrit> i was looking and there is one with just av
20:25 <+giant_it_burrit> for 22
20:25 < Hunterkll> no
20:25 < Hunterkll> that's AV addon
20:25 < Hunterkll> $61 + 22
20:25 < Hunterkll> to have AV
20:25 < JollyRgrs> ^^
20:25 < Hunterkll> $61 just for SCCM
20:25 < JollyRgrs> 61 is SCCM, 61 +22 is SCCM with SCEP
20:25 < Hunterkll> (which will let you set up and use AV .... you're just not licensed for it)
20:25 < JollyRgrs> only "more expensive" is server vs workstation
20:25 < Hunterkll> there's no technical blocking from you using the AV
20:25 < Hunterkll> except an audit :P
20:26 <+giant_it_burrit> which for 50 seats wouldnt be too awful :)
20:26 <+giant_it_burrit> so i could deploy and then add the license right
20:26 <+giant_it_burrit> see how it is
20:26 < Hunterkll> well
20:26 < Hunterkll> it's just a license you buy
20:26 <+giant_it_burrit> so yes
20:26 < Hunterkll> you don't do anything configuration wise
20:26 < Hunterkll> except don't use the AV till you buy the license
20:26 < Hunterkll> :P
20:27 < Hunterkll> giant_it_burrit, wanna go harass a bunch of furries this weekend? :p
20:27 <+giant_it_burrit> i really do
20:27 <+giant_it_burrit> when
20:27 < Hunterkll> this weekend
20:27 < Hunterkll> uh
20:27 < Hunterkll> friday/saturday/sunday monring
20:27 < Hunterkll> atlantic city
20:27 <+giant_it_burrit> im not doing that all weekend
20:27 < Hunterkll> AnimeNEXT
20:27 <+giant_it_burrit> nope
20:27 < JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: it's Hunterkll's family reunion :P
20:27 <+giant_it_burrit> not going to a weeb convention
20:28 < Hunterkll> i never said you had to
20:28 < Hunterkll> lol
20:28 < Hunterkll> why not?
20:28 < Hunterkll> I'm gonna be blowing like $200 worth of film there
20:28 < Hunterkll> >_>
20:28 < Hunterkll> sppeaking of
20:28 < Hunterkll> where the fuck is the fedex guy
20:28 < Hunterkll> and usps guy
20:28 < Hunterkll> and ups guy
20:28 < JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: he's got a kimono for you to wear
20:28 < JollyRgrs> it has a tail :P
20:28 < Hunterkll> no
20:28 < Hunterkll> my kimono does not have a tail
20:28 <+giant_it_burrit> JollyRgrs: where are my wabaki
20:28 < Hunterkll> furries weren't a thing before WW2
20:28 <+giant_it_burrit> bring your swords samurai Hunterkll-dono
20:28 < Hunterkll> and my only full kimono is a WW2 heavy silk one
20:29 < Hunterkll> giant_it_burrit, all I have are naval officers swords and enlisted NCO swords
20:29 < Hunterkll> sorry
20:29 < Sousapro> Furries are because of disney
20:29 <+giant_it_burrit> you a grown ass white man. why would you do this
20:29 <+giant_it_burrit> you better be drowning in sideways pussy
20:29 < Hunterkll> uh
20:29 < Hunterkll> weekend long party ?
20:29 < Sousapro> Someone saw gadget and got a boner
20:29 < Hunterkll> helloooo
20:29 < Hunterkll> Sousapro, disney you say? (semi-nsfw but not really? ) https://i.imgur.com/8nv7uMX.png
20:29 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 392,014 bytes
20:30 < abakedapplepie> if Hunterkll says its semi nsfw
20:30 < abakedapplepie> its definitely nsfw
20:30 < Sousapro> Hunterkll: LMAO
20:30 < JollyRgrs> ^^
20:30 < abakedapplepie> not going there
20:30 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, well, no nudity, just a disney photoshop
20:30 <+giant_it_burrit> its odd
20:30 <+giant_it_burrit> dont let
20:30 <+giant_it_burrit> it stay on screen too long
20:30 < abakedapplepie> im not going
20:30 < abakedapplepie> lol
20:30 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, but Sousapro found it hilarious
20:31 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, you scared of bambi?
20:31 < Sousapro> It's still NSFW if your boss sucks
20:31 < Hunterkll> 'tis why i said semi
20:31 < Sousapro> ++
20:31 < JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: furries existed before ww2 i'm pretty sure
20:31 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, not in japan tho they would have been cut head off
20:31 < JollyRgrs> without internet, the small population couldn't reach each other, they dare not reveal to non-furries
20:32 < JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: the only furries they could find were the legit furry creatures
20:32 < Hunterkll> LOL
20:32 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, after seeing my disney image, Sousapro now be like this --> https://i.imgur.com/itceVEN.png
20:32 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 605,958 bytes
20:36 < ravioli> hi FlopB.
20:36 < abakedapplepie> bye FlopB
20:36 < ebol4> extremely rude
20:37 < scwizard> Hunterkll: nsfw much :|
20:38 < abakedapplepie> wow theres a lot of people in quarantine
20:38 < Hunterkll> lol
20:38 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, i added it to my autojoin to see what was up
20:38 < Hunterkll> :P
20:39 < Hunterkll> PICKDADSGIFT
20:39 < Hunterkll> ebay 20% off coupon code i think
20:39 < abakedapplepie> neat
20:39  * Hunterkll goes shopping
20:39 < abakedapplepie> probably max of like $20 off
20:39 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, nope. 20% off everything! *
20:39 < pupp3r> plot twist: you have to prove that it's for your dad
20:39 < Hunterkll> min $50 purchase
20:39 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, max $100 off
20:39 < abakedapplepie> there it is
20:40 < Hunterkll> still
20:40 < Hunterkll> $100 off
20:40 < abakedapplepie> yeah
20:40 < Hunterkll> thats $500 down to $400
20:40 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, damn, real estate is excluded :(
20:40 < abakedapplepie> probbly vehicles too
20:40 < abakedapplepie> that was my thought
20:41 < abakedapplepie> 20% off a used car lol
20:41 < Hunterkll> max $100 off though
20:41 < abakedapplepie> right
20:41 < Hunterkll> but vehicles wasn't included
20:41 < Hunterkll> though i think vehicle payments get settled off site anyway
20:42 < SynMonger> I can't see paying ebay a cut on selling a vehicle when craigslist/facebook marketplace would get you more exposure
20:43 < abakedapplepie> i need a new garage door
20:43 < abakedapplepie> decent one finally hit facebook market today
20:43 < abakedapplepie> sold right away
20:43 < abakedapplepie> :(
20:43 < SynMonger> I hear you could get $100 off one on ebay right now
20:43 < abakedapplepie> oh god shipping a garage door
20:43 < abakedapplepie> that sounds like a nightmare
20:44 < Hunterkll> !!!!!!!
20:44 < Hunterkll> YAY
20:44 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, my first production cross-forest MP
20:44 < Hunterkll> :D
20:44 < Hunterkll> this aint lab shit
20:44 < Hunterkll> this is real
20:44 < Hunterkll> :P
20:46 < pcspkr> what mp
20:47 < Sousapro> pupp3r: buy that 55 gallon drum of lube and a flat of Dasani water
20:47 < pupp3r> oh yeah that's a gift for daddy alright
20:47 < katnip> https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/18/06/05/1227252/intel-hits-50-years-and-its-cpus-hit-50-ghz
20:47 <+layer-eight> * katnip →  Intel Hits 50 Years and Its CPUs Hit 5.0 GHz - Slashdot
20:50 <+TuxedoJack> And their new kickass proc is an it-8086K
20:50 <+TuxedoJack> *i7-8086K
20:50 < Hunterkll> it's only a 6 core
20:50 < Hunterkll> chill
20:50 < Hunterkll> i can run my 18 core at 4ghz base just fine
20:50 < Hunterkll> :)
20:51 < Sousapro> Threadripper 2 is going to offer 64 thread
20:51 < Sousapro> I may have to buy one
20:51 < Hunterkll> at what IPC though?
20:51 < Hunterkll> the intel 28 core will probably smoke it
20:51 < Sousapro> Not sure what I would do without it
20:51 < Sousapro> LMAO I'd doubt it
20:51 < Hunterkll> IPC matters
20:52 < Hunterkll> AMD single-core performance sucks dick
20:52 < Hunterkll> they're at .... just barely haswell level
20:52 < Hunterkll> just barely
20:52 < Hunterkll> and that's what, 4-5 generations behind
20:52 < Hunterkll> AMD's going the MOAR CORES route again
20:53 < scwizard> honestly I'm kinda thinking
20:53 < JFDkthx> psad about that too
20:53 < JFDkthx> because it runs like dogshit
20:53 < Hunterkll> Sousapro, per-core performance matters a lot - it's why a 6 core intel is better than an 8 core AMD of the same generation for gaming
20:53 < Hunterkll> lol
20:53 < scwizard> rather than docker-compose, to have services orchestrated via systemd config
20:54 < JFDkthx> im probably going to build a second intel based system and leave the threadripper for encoding
20:54 < Hunterkll> though i'll probably get one for a VM farm which cores DO help
20:54 < scwizard> like basically have a systemd thingy that starts nginx, except rather than nginx it would be the nginx docker container ya know
20:55 < scwizard> is it really that crazy?
20:57 < DomLS3> damn
20:57 < DomLS3> AT&T getting fucked up right now
20:57 < DomLS3> http://downdetector.com/status/att/map/
20:57 < scwizard> wait
20:57 < scwizard> apparently there's a "docker service" command
20:58 < abakedapplepie> DomLS3 which service
20:58 < abakedapplepie> that site isnt loading for me lol
20:58 < scwizard> oh that might be a docker swarm thing
20:58 < DomLS3> abakedapplepie: phone
20:58 < abakedapplepie> downdetector down
20:58 < DomLS3> abakedapplepie: mobile and landline
20:58 < abakedapplepie> havent noticed an issues on my phone
20:59 < DomLS3> it's intermittent
20:59 < DomLS3> I can't call some numbers on my landline or my cell phone. just get a busy signal
20:59 < DomLS3> someone from verizon or sprint tries it... works fine
21:00 < scwizard> yup it's a docker swarm thing
21:00 < Sousapro> s/docker/donger
21:00 <+layer-eight> [SED Sousapro/scwizard] yup it's a donger swarm thing
21:00 < scwizard> i'm not gonna get into docker swarm, would be better to just use k8s
21:01 < Sousapro> Who needs admins when you have docker
21:01 < Sousapro> Run prod from your laptop
21:01 < pupp3r> docker swarm, huh? i guess the robots are already taking over
21:09 <+NinjaStyle> Noodles
21:09 < abakedapplepie> noooooooodles
21:09 < abakedapplepie> i just bought soup
21:09 < ebol4> As conceived in 1632 by Portuguese printing press operator Andre Felipe, boxing was a gentleman's game, in which two men would square off and regale each other with stories monotonous for days on end, until one of them fell to the ground from boredom or exhaustion. Over the next few years the new sport developed a respectable following of a few hundred local socialites.
21:09 < abakedapplepie> with noodles
21:09 < ebol4> woops
21:10 < cantibot> walk in the trap like a boss
21:10 < cantibot> walk in the DC like a boss
21:11 < rpifan> come on ppl
21:11 < rpifan> why u not excited
21:11 < rpifan> for the roo
21:12 < rpifan> i will livestream my psychedlic trip
21:13 <@ravioli> wat
21:13 < ned0> what would you call being the only IT person in a small office
21:13 < ned0> if you didn't have an official title for those responsibilities
21:13 < ned0> (for a resume)
21:13 <@ravioli> chief systems engineer
21:13 < rpifan> going to bo bnnnnoooarroo
21:14 <@ravioli> ned0: system administrator?
21:14 <@ravioli> if you wanted to be modest you could say technical support technician
21:14 <@ravioli> but that's what helpdesk is
21:14 < ned0> yeah
21:14 < ebol4> ned0: i'd just say systems administrator and mention that it was a one-man shop down below
21:14 < ned0> i don't want to put sys admin because it was a <10 person office
21:14 <+NinjaStyle> ned0: ay
21:14 < ned0> and I had no clue what I was doing
21:14 < ebol4> were you administering systems
21:14 < rpifan> manager
21:14 < ned0> ay NinjaStyle
21:14 < rpifan> chief technology officer
21:14 < abakedapplepie> it sounds like you were a sysadmin to me
21:14 < abakedapplepie> pad that resume brah
21:15 <+NinjaStyle> I know u
21:15 < ebol4> ned0: fellate yourself on your resume, everyone else is
21:15 < abakedapplepie> get that paper booboo
21:15 < abakedapplepie> you administered various systems during your tenure no doubt
21:15 < ned0> yeah I bought all the hardware/software, configured, trained users, monitored, did troubleshooting
21:15 <@ravioli> ^
21:15 <@ravioli> that's system administration.
21:15 < abakedapplepie> youre a sysadmin, ned0
21:15 < ebol4> that is most definitely sysadmin
21:15 < abakedapplepie> welcome to the club
21:15 < abakedapplepie> heres your name badge
21:15 < abakedapplepie> and achievement sheet
21:15 < cantibot> ned0 can you administer these nuts on your chin?
21:15 < Hunterkll> cryptic1 in highschool - https://i.imgur.com/0yyXgAi.png
21:15 < rpifan> lol
21:15 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 371,108 bytes
21:15 < Hunterkll> TRUE 100% ACTION SHOT
21:15  * ned0 prints this chat log to attach to his resume
21:16 < abakedapplepie> ned0: in all seriousness
21:16 < abakedapplepie> you were a sysadmin
21:16 < abakedapplepie> own it
21:16 <@ravioli> might want to omit cantibot's response
21:16 < cantibot> yea sorry.
21:16 <@ravioli> anyway, now that you're officially a sysadmin, i accept union dues via bitcoin.
21:16 < Hunterkll> lol
21:16 < cantibot> I didn't know I was on the record
21:16 < abakedapplepie> lol
21:16 < Hunterkll> cantibot, you're always on the record when testicles are involved
21:16 < cantibot> pfff. these nuts take no comments.
21:17 < rpifan> lol
21:17 < abakedapplepie> ravioli actually only accepts bitconnect
21:17 < abakedapplepie> btw
21:17 < rpifan> lol
21:17 < rpifan> bitttttconnnnecttttttt
21:17 < rpifan> bittttconnnnnnnneeettt
21:18 <+giant_it_burrit> vanjie
21:18 <+giant_it_burrit> miss vanjie
21:24 <+giant_it_burrit> ?
21:24 < cryptic1> you are next giant_it_burrit
21:25 < cryptic1> we will unban the hell out of you
21:25 < cryptic1> just keep it up
21:25 <+giant_it_burrit> not like this!!!!
21:26 < ravioli> giant_it_burrit: remember verne?
21:26 <+NinjaStyle> !invoke-unbanrequest NinjaStyle
21:26 <+giant_it_burrit> troyer?
21:27 < ravioli> no
21:27 < ravioli> our special connection
21:27 < Hunterkll> !kill-all-powershell-jokes
21:27 < ravioli> you don't remember? when we were stuck on one side of the netsplit....and everyone else was on the other side
21:27 <+NinjaStyle> Hunterkll: how is your butt
21:27 < ravioli> i remember that moment. i think of it often.
21:27 < abakedapplepie> lol
21:28 < asimon> I hope none of you ever have to develop websites
21:28 < asimon> this shit is terrible
21:28 < gnupluslinux> Mfw NinjaStyle asks Hunterkll about his butt
21:28 <+NinjaStyle> Been there did that badly
21:28 < Hunterkll> i'm kind of confused
21:28 < Hunterkll> right now
21:28 < gnupluslinux> asimon front end is a mess
21:29 < gnupluslinux> Back end is mildly micer
21:29 < Hunterkll> asimon, i developed a great website for this channel - https://www.hugebuttholes.com
21:29 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Home of #reddit-sysadmin
21:29 < asimon> gnupluslinux: I can handle HTML. I can even do CSS
21:29 < asimon> But this whole django and javascript bullshit is just the worst
21:29 < gnupluslinux> Hunterkll oh yeah well mines better zombo.com
21:29 < Hunterkll> yea right
21:29 < gnupluslinux> Javascript is the devils language
21:29 <+NinjaStyle> I built an app in django
21:29 <+NinjaStyle> I thought it was nice
21:29 < asimon> Also I'm not going to that website on my work network Hunterkll
21:29 < gnupluslinux> Isnt django the web server
21:30 <+NinjaStyle> It's a platform
21:30 < asimon> django itself is alright
21:30 < Hunterkll> asimon, it's iphone compatible
21:30 < Hunterkll> :p
21:30 < asimon> But we're extending it like 5 times with so many third party plugins
21:30 < asimon> I can't keep track of all this
21:30 < Hunterkll> asimon, it's a text list of users in this channel lol
21:30 < asimon> lol
21:30 < Hunterkll> with colors
21:31 < Hunterkll> and HTTPS!
21:31 <+NinjaStyle> The butthole ones
21:31 < Hunterkll> AND TABLES
21:31 < Hunterkll> AND MARQUEE
21:31 < Hunterkll> asimon, I USED MARQUEE TAGS
21:31 < asimon> you had me until marquee
21:31 < asimon> is this 1994
21:31 < Hunterkll> asimon, 1998
21:31 < gnupluslinux> asimon hahahahha
21:31 < Hunterkll> i'm limiting myself to only things found in this book - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/078971759X/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
21:31 < rpifan> speaking of which i just proposed with come out with an ico in the company funny channel
21:31 < Hunterkll> it's been kicking around my bedroom since like
21:31 < Hunterkll> 2003/2004
21:31 < gnupluslinux> Wait till you get to grunt/gulp/node whatever the fuck theyre on now
21:31 < Hunterkll> i am going to upgrade to the year 2000 version that is listed there (it's delivering soon)
21:32 < gnupluslinux> Fucking. Client. Side. Dependencies. Boyyyeeeee
21:32 < Hunterkll> because it has perl CGI and shit in it
21:32 < Hunterkll> it also has ASP, PHP, ColdFusion, and JAVA2
21:32 < Hunterkll>  including XHTML, XML, JavaScript, Dynamic HTML, CGI programming with Perl, Server-side Programming with ASP, ColdFusion and PHP, and Java 2.
21:32 <+NinjaStyle> Do coldfusion
21:32 < Hunterkll> man when hugebuttholes.com gets these upgrades
21:33 < abakedapplepie> i told you better get on that dynamic html
21:33 < Hunterkll> i'm gonna add a guest counter that WORKS
21:33 < gnupluslinux> >coldfusion
21:33 < Hunterkll> right now it's - in true geocities style - a guest counter that's BROKEN
21:33 < gnupluslinux> Ogod.png
21:33 < rpifan> GRAILS
21:33 < gnupluslinux> DREAMWEAVER
21:33 < abakedapplepie> just remember
21:33 < rpifan> our infrastructure is written in that
21:33 < Hunterkll> my count.cgi ISE 500's
21:33 < Hunterkll> lol
21:33 < rpifan> oh god not dreamweaver
21:33 < rpifan> fuckkk that shiiit
21:33 < abakedapplepie> somewhere out there are dozens of professional coldfusion devs
21:33 < abakedapplepie> still getting paid
21:33 < rpifan> i was a child when i t came out
21:33 < abakedapplepie> somehow
21:33 < Hunterkll> look
21:33 < rpifan> and it was bad even then
21:33 < Hunterkll> http://adrianzandberg.pl/cobol-on-wheelchair/
21:33 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  COBOL on Wheelchair
21:33 < Hunterkll> use that
21:33 < asimon> Does Hunterkll's site look like it belongs on neopets.com
21:34 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, coldfusion still exists
21:34 < abakedapplepie> i know
21:34 < abakedapplepie> thats my point
21:34 < Hunterkll> asimon, check it on your phone lol
21:34 < abakedapplepie> lol
21:34 < gnupluslinux> New zealand is still hiring cobol
21:34 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, like, 2016 version is current
21:34 < Hunterkll> :P
21:34 < abakedapplepie> somehow, its still being used
21:34 < abakedapplepie> lol
21:34 < Hunterkll> https://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-family.html
21:34 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Adobe ColdFusion family
21:34 < abakedapplepie> in 2018
21:34 < asimon> how did you even get that domain name
21:34 < Hunterkll> i think we had an unpatched CF server
21:34 < Hunterkll> asimon, idk
21:34 < asimon> I thought that'd be snatched up long before now
21:34 < Hunterkll> it was availbale
21:34 < Hunterkll> lol
21:34 < asimon> incredible
21:34 <+NinjaStyle> Neopets was the shit
21:34 < Hunterkll> asimon, i also own retarded.website
21:34 < asimon> wow
21:34 < Hunterkll> asimon, if you need any help, you can email me at cocaine.support@cocainedealers.club
21:34 < Hunterkll> ;)
21:35 < abakedapplepie> Hunterkll hoards domain names
21:35 < abakedapplepie> its just a thing that happens
21:35 < rpifan> Hunterkll, poland ball cannot into space
21:35 <+NinjaStyle> Malware.delivery
21:35 < gnupluslinux> Mfw Hunterkll domain bill is 1k/yr
21:35 < Hunterkll> gnupluslinux, nah, i get special pricing for having over 50 domains
21:35 < abakedapplepie> i wouldnt be surprised
21:35 < Hunterkll> and usually bulk renew at 20% off
21:35 < gnupluslinux> Jfc
21:35 < asimon> Hey you never know when they could come in handy
21:35 < abakedapplepie> especially because some of those new TLDs have ridiculous renewal rates
21:35 < asimon> http://jacobfedosky.com/2014/07/17/meet-man-traded-windows2000-com-microsoft-exchange-bob-com/
21:35 < abakedapplepie> buy the domain for $1
21:35 <+layer-eight> * asimon →  Meet the man who traded Windows2000.com to Microsoft in exchange for Bob.com - JacobFedosky.com
21:35 < abakedapplepie> renew for $50
21:36 < Hunterkll> yea i avoid those
21:36 < Hunterkll> i did 44 .xyz's for $354
21:36 < Hunterkll> i think
21:36 < Hunterkll> punjabipantyraiders.xyz is important
21:36 < Hunterkll> especially when dealing with the registrar's support
21:36 < Hunterkll> who's a girl
21:36 < Hunterkll> in india
21:36 < Hunterkll> and you need to renew that domain
21:36 < Hunterkll> it's great
21:36 < gnupluslinux> Totallyreak.com
21:36 < Hunterkll> and mumbaihunnies.xyz
21:36 < Hunterkll> or something
21:37 < vinrock> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/De4KlwFX0AMtPBc.jpg
21:37 <+layer-eight> * vinrock →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 192,717 bytes
21:37 < vinrock> THANKS LAYER EIGHT
21:37 < ravioli> shit bot
21:38 <+NinjaStyle> That bot srsly sucks butt
21:38 < Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, malware.liev is available
21:38 < Hunterkll> live
21:38 < Hunterkll> OH FUCK
21:38  * Hunterkll BUYS A DOMAIN RIGHT THE FUCK NOW
21:39 < rpifan> buy me one daddy
21:39 < Hunterkll> nevermind
21:39 < Hunterkll> IT'S A LIE
21:39 < ravioli> REKT
21:39 < Hunterkll> THE SEARCH RESULTS WERE A LIE
21:39 < Hunterkll> IT SAYD $3
21:39 < Hunterkll> BUT IN CART IT IS $3,250
21:39 < Hunterkll> :'(
21:39 < vinrock> jaysus
21:39 < ravioli> do it anyway, you won't
21:39 < Hunterkll> malware.shop
21:39 < Hunterkll> lol
21:39 < vinrock> i used to own vinrock.com
21:39 < vinrock> i shouldnt have let that slip
21:39 < vinrock> some vineyard in cali bought it
21:39 < vinrock> $$$$$$$$$$$$
21:39 < vinrock> :(
21:39 <+NinjaStyle> Rekt
21:40 < Hunterkll> gnupluslinux, asimon - namecheap even gives me special pricing.
21:40 < Hunterkll> - register .COM domains at $9.61 + $0.18 ICANN fee, .NET domains at $11.94 + $0.18 ICANN fee, .BIZ domains at $12.57 + $0.18 ICANN fee, .ORG domains at $10.96 + $0.18 ICANN fee, .INFO domains at $11.64 + $0.18 ICANN fee;
21:40 < Hunterkll> - renew/reactivate .COM domains at $9.61 + $0.18 ICANN fee, .NET domains at $11.94 + $0.18 ICANN fee, .BIZ domains at $12.57 + $0.18 ICANN fee, .ORG domains at $10.96 + $0.18 ICANN fee and .INFO domains at $11.64 + $0.18 ICANN fee;
21:40 < Hunterkll> - transfer .COM domains at $8.79 + $0.18 ICANN fee, .NET domains at $11.14 + $0.18 ICANN fee, .BIZ domains at $12.57 + $0.18 ICANN fee, .ORG domains at $10.16 + $0.18 ICANN fee and .INFO domains at $11.64 + $0.18 ICANN fee;
21:40 < Hunterkll> becauyse i have so mayn domains
21:40 < Hunterkll> lol
21:40 < gnupluslinux> NinjaStyle did you buy malware.delivery
21:40 < Hatter> like how many
21:41 < gnupluslinux> So many
21:41 <+NinjaStyle> gnupluslinux: ye I own dat shit
21:41 < gnupluslinux> Ayyy
21:41 < Hatter> I know someone who bought cisco.ca and CIsco has been trying to get it from him for like 20 years
21:41 < abakedapplepie> lol
21:41 <+NinjaStyle> I wasn't it people's splunk logs
21:41 <+NinjaStyle> In*
21:42 < abakedapplepie> i have abakedapplepie.com
21:42 < alazare619> New phone battery is awesome
21:42 < abakedapplepie> and <myname>and<wifesname>.com
21:42 <+NinjaStyle> I own hak.gg
21:42 < alazare619> Phones still at 97 percent took it off the charger almost 6 hrs ago
21:43 < alazare619> Stevejessup.com
21:43 < gnupluslinux> I wonder if i should remove my linkedin from my page
21:43 < alazare619> That's mine
21:43 < gnupluslinux> Lies
21:43 <+giant_it_burrit> Thisfuckingpieceofsoftwaresucks.com is mine
21:44 <+NinjaStyle> Lol
21:44 < gnupluslinux> Hahahaha
21:46 < Hunterkll> vinrock, vinrock.io is available
21:46 < Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, you should get malware.gg
21:46 < vinrock> eh its not the same feeling as having the .com
21:46 < technonerd> 321 gone
21:46 < ravioli> i've got you all beat
21:46 < Hunterkll> and use it to host a cryptolocker page
21:46 < Hunterkll> lol
21:46 < vinrock> aw geez
21:46 < scwizard> oh man
21:46 < scwizard> systemd is great
21:46 < scwizard> you can just hostnamectl set-hostname
21:47 < scwizard> to change your hostname
21:47 < Hunterkll> vinrock, - malware.vin
21:47 < scwizard> rather than going crazy
21:47 < ravioli> i've got http://donger.org
21:47 <+layer-eight> * ravioli →  the donger foundation
21:47 < vinrock> thats prety rad
21:47 < Hunterkll> you know you could change your hostname live before systemd right?
21:47 < scwizard> yeah but
21:47 < scwizard> it was annoying
21:47 < Hunterkll> change a config file and run the hostname command
21:47 < Hunterkll> ....
21:47 < scwizard> that's like 2 steps man
21:47 < scwizard> screw that
21:47 < scwizard> systemd is great
21:47 < scwizard> all hail
21:47 < Hunterkll> that does not make up for all the failure that systemd is
21:48 < Hunterkll> lol
21:48 < technonerd> Systemd won a pwnie award
21:48 < technonerd> Not a bug
21:48 < scwizard> systemd has never let me down
21:48 < Hunterkll> doesn't surprise me
21:48 < technonerd> Root access
21:48 < Hunterkll> lel
21:48 < Hunterkll> was that the DNS one?
21:48 < Hunterkll> because they couldn't reuse good code and have massive NIH syndrome?
21:48 < technonerd> Username started with 0
21:48 < Hunterkll> hahaha
21:48 < alazare619> Rock.vin
21:48 < scwizard> that's really not a bad security vuln
21:49 < scwizard> it's completely unexploitable
21:49 < Hunterkll> scwizard, there have been far worse
21:49 < Hunterkll> and what the fuck with making PID1 so complex
21:49 < Hunterkll> when that goes down it's insta-KP
21:49 < scwizard> unless you're doing something insane like taking input from untrusted users and putting it in your systemd config files
21:49 < Hunterkll> like redundant service managers managed by PID1 would have been far saner
21:49 < Hunterkll> and why the fuck does PID1 need to be socket aware?
21:49 < scwizard> performance prob
21:49 < Hunterkll> no, it's for how systemd works
21:50 < Hunterkll> but there's a far better way to do it
21:50 < Hunterkll> but anyway
21:50 < Hunterkll> scwizard, using sockets instead of regular IPC is a performance hit, at any rate
21:50 < scwizard> ppl just don't like systemd because they think the whole "do one thing and do it well" is written in the bible or something
21:51 < Hunterkll> scwizard, systemd is doing many things, and none of them well, and is architecturally fragile, and putting me into a position where my linux servers get more patch reboots than my windows servers
21:51 < Hunterkll> lol
21:51 < scwizard> it's doing a lot of things perfectly well from my experiance
21:51 < Hunterkll> like literally moving systemd down to redundant service managers managed by PID1 so it can zap orphans into the active service manager
21:51 < Hunterkll> would eliminate like 70% of my complaints with it technology wise
21:51 < Hunterkll> scwizard, we've had emergency patches from redhat before for systemd issues that crippled some of our production environments
21:52 < scwizard> eek
21:52 < scwizard> what were those bugs? do you have a link?
21:52 < Hunterkll> where our RHEL6 boxes were like "yo. sup. still up. still not down. still don't have a reboot required update yet."
21:52 < Hunterkll> i'd have to pull up the cases
21:52 < Hunterkll> and then there's the shit where RHEL7 got whacked on a specific hyper-v bios config
21:52 < Hunterkll> which turned out to be a udev user-land issue
21:52 < Hunterkll> when running in hyper-v on FC630s
21:52 < Hunterkll> but only udev in systemd
21:53 < Hunterkll> same kernel, non-systemd udev (same version) systems had no issues
21:53 < Hunterkll> that, again necessitated an emergency patch from redhat for a fleet
21:53 < Hunterkll> after a specific update set
21:53 < Hunterkll> systemd code quality is shit, stability is great - when it's great - and horrific when it's not
21:53 < Hunterkll> it's black and white
21:53 < Hunterkll> good or bad
21:54 < Hunterkll> there's no "oh we can do this to mitigate that problem"
21:54 < technonerd> Just like pulse
21:54 < scwizard> the thing is
21:54 < scwizard> if pulse wasn't so sucessful systemd wouldn't exist
21:54 < Hunterkll> systemd has effectively doubled our linux admin team's workload
21:54 < Hunterkll> lol
21:54 < Hunterkll> just in terms of management
21:54 < Hunterkll> it's sad
21:55 < Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, buy malware.tube and start up a malware vblog
21:56 < Hunterkll> scwizard, my linux systems at home don't have pulse
21:56 < Hunterkll> :p
21:56 < Hunterkll> just alsa
21:56 < scwizard> man u really hate pottering-san
21:56 < gnupluslinux> NinjaStyle ill make a shortener for ur domain with mine
21:56 < gnupluslinux> Together we can hack the gibson
21:56 < Hunterkll> scwizard, acutally, no, i just don't need it
21:56 < Hunterkll> why would i install something i have not needed yet
21:56 < scwizard> fair
21:57 < Hunterkll> XMMS plays fine, games play fine, annoying alerts in KDE play fine, applets in fluxbox work to make noise, etc
21:57 < scwizard> but i mean like
21:57 < scwizard> why couldn't someone make a performant init system that wasn't controversial
21:57 < Hunterkll> I don't think I could get by on OSS anymore though
21:57 < scwizard> i wonder if it could have been possible
21:57 < Hunterkll> scwizard, Ubuntu was one of the closest
21:57 < Hunterkll> and 'performant' isn't really what i'd be looking for in feature set
21:57 < scwizard> i really didn't like upstart
21:58 < Hunterkll> since sysV was fine
21:58 < catbeard> windows 10 bash
21:58 < catbeard> how do you specify port
21:58 < catbeard> for native ssh thing
21:58 < scwizard> upstart was difficult to use and similar in performance than sysV
21:58 < Hunterkll> scwizard, Solaris is better with it's SMF then anything on linux.
21:58 < Hunterkll> catbeard, native ssh is for windows side
21:58 < Hunterkll> not WSL
21:58 < scwizard> that's kinda neither here nor there
21:58 < catbeard> either way
21:58 < gnupluslinux> catbeard -p ?
21:58 < Hunterkll> scwizard, and OS X's Launchd was basically perfect
21:58 < catbeard> hmm that was my guess
21:58 < Hunterkll> both systems could have been successfully copied
21:58 < catbeard> we'll see
21:58 < gnupluslinux> Man ssh
21:59 < Hunterkll> scwizard, and 'performance' is not really a ... concern? I have
21:59 < scwizard> how can you say it's perfect if it's propritary?
21:59 < Hunterkll> paralellizing service launching is about the same
21:59 < scwizard> it's a concern a lot of people have
21:59 < Hunterkll> scwizard, launchd is open source, but regardless, you could have /copied its functinoality/
21:59 < Hunterkll> SMF is too
21:59 < scwizard> oh i didn't know launchd was
21:59 < scwizard> why was launchd never ported to linux then?
21:59 < Hunterkll> license incompatiblity
22:00 < Hunterkll> ASPL
22:00 < Hunterkll> well
22:00 < Hunterkll> i assume
22:00 < Hunterkll> scwizard, all changes made to ASPL code apple can gank back and close source
22:00 < Hunterkll> but
22:00 < Hunterkll> here's launchd
22:00 < Hunterkll> https://opensource.apple.com/tarballs/launchd/
22:00 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Source Browser
22:00 < Hunterkll> scwizard, regardless, the point here is that - there were better - or at least - sane implementations
22:00 < Hunterkll> of systems out there
22:01 < Hunterkll> that could have been looked to
22:01 < Hunterkll> instead of overlaoding the fuck out of PID1 and fucking shit up
22:01 < scwizard> then why didn't it happen
22:01 < Hunterkll> because redhat
22:01 < Hunterkll> and pottering's NIH syndrome
22:01 < Hunterkll> like seirously
22:01 < Hunterkll> i get systemd needs PID1 to manage orphan processes
22:01 < Hunterkll> that's great
22:02 < Hunterkll> have PID1 manage *redundant* service controllers (active/passive) and just pass orphans down to thea ctive
22:02 < Hunterkll> then PID1 is back to being dumb simple, with real redundnacy in operations, and not risking a kernel panic just by having such a huge surface
22:03 < scwizard> so if a simple solution could have solved their problems
22:03 < scwizard> why did they go for a complicated one do you think?
22:03 < scwizard> do you think it was to try and take over the linux kernel or something?
22:03 < Hunterkll> not quite
22:03 < scwizard> or just cause they're dumb
22:03 < Hunterkll> i think they went too hard, too fast to what looked like an elegant solution
22:03 < Hunterkll> then feature creeped like a motherfucker
22:03 < Hunterkll> like why the fuck did they need to roll in udev?!
22:03 < Hunterkll> etc
22:04 < technonerd> Soo much feature creep
22:08 < scwizard> Debian wiki has this to say about systemd
22:08 < scwizard> "Systemd makes the boot process much simpler, entirely removing the need to specify dependencies in many cases thanks to D-Bus activation, socket activation, file/inotify activation and udev integration."
22:09 < scwizard> "Other distributions who switched to systemd were also confronted to a lot of controversy before the switch. After it became clear that rivers didn’t turn into blood, the complaints have only been sporadic."
22:09 < Hunterkll> my complaints are specific and architectural
22:09 < Hunterkll> but either way
22:10 < Hunterkll> thank god for gentoo and slackware
22:10 < Hunterkll> i do have some systemd stuff at home but that's out of sheer laziness and/or upgrade path
22:10 < Hunterkll> my SLES and RHEL 7 stuff mainly
22:10 < Hunterkll> you know what else doesn't have systemd?
22:10 < Hunterkll> winodws 10 WSL :P
22:11 < Hunterkll> systemd binaries are present, but nonfunctioning
22:11 < Hunterkll> :D
22:11 < McDonaldsWiFi> Any of you guys watchig "better call saul"
22:11 < Hunterkll> since it can't be PID1
22:11 < McDonaldsWiFi> I'm mid way through the first season and its dope
22:14 < Hatter> yeah it's pretty good
22:15 < alazare619> Hunterkll:  systemd is not that bad
22:15 < alazare619> It gives alot of flexibility other inits lacked
22:15 < Hunterkll> ....
22:15 < Hunterkll> and introduced a metric fuckload of problems and idiocy
22:15 < alazare619> And ease it is change for change however
22:15 < Hunterkll> as i've said repeatedly, even upstart was better
22:15 < Hunterkll> but launchd from apple and SMF for sun
22:16 < Hunterkll> were far better implementations than systemd will ever be
22:16 < alazare619> I don't disagree
22:16 < ebol4> is frodo the lord of the rings
22:16 < alazare619> Launchd and upstart are auperior
22:16 < alazare619> Superior
22:17 <@Code_Man65> openrc was also an option
22:17 < Hunterkll> alazare619, systemd has done nothing but introduce negative impacts on me at work and at home
22:17 < Hunterkll> it has provided no real benefit
22:17 < Hunterkll> were i, perhaps, making my own services or whatever
22:17 < Hunterkll> perhaps it may
22:17 < alazare619> I do wish upstart would of got more push from canocle
22:17 < Hunterkll> but in my use cases, professionally and personally
22:17 < Hunterkll> it's either neutral - no effect - or negative
22:17 < Hunterkll> no positive
22:17 < Hunterkll> I don't give a flying fuck about shaving 5 seconds off of boot time
22:18 < alazare619> My favorite is alpines init
22:18 < alazare619> Rc-update service boot
22:18 < alazare619> Done
22:19 < alazare619> It is useful with docker I use systemd to start stop dockers
22:19 < Hunterkll> ./etc/init.d/containername start | stop
22:19 < Hunterkll> i don't see the benefit of complicating shit
22:24 < JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: the only thing i thought MIGHT be of some benefit was the binary logs... as bad as most ppl thought of that... binary logs would make ti easier to filter kind of like windows event logs
22:24 < JollyRgrs> has that not proven helpful?
22:24 < Hunterkll> it's proven fucking annoying
22:24 < Hunterkll> having to use special tools instead of basic shell commands
22:24 < Hunterkll> when dumped into an initrd recovery environment
22:25 < Hunterkll> i should be able to manipulate logs with shit built into my sh
22:25 < JollyRgrs> would it provide useful if going through a HUGE log for something?
22:25 < Hunterkll> not with extra binaries
22:25 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, this is why god invented grep
22:25 < JollyRgrs> not so much when in recovery, but just in checking logs for apache or something similar
22:26 < Hunterkll> i mean - it might make it easier for other tools to parse - MAYBE -
22:26 < Hunterkll> and might reduce log size a bit
22:26 < Hunterkll> but i mean, with standardized text formats anyway it's not like it was difficult to parse to be gin wiht
22:26 < Hunterkll> the lack of text logging on windows actually annoys me
22:26 < JollyRgrs> grepping a log for a word that can be in the logged line's category as well as in a different category's description would not be split well just using grep
22:26 < Hunterkll> so run it through sed first, whatever
22:26 < JollyRgrs> i agree, i'm just devil's advocating
22:27 < JollyRgrs> i also wish windows logs were text based
22:27 < Hunterkll> my systemd setups pump everything to a regular syslog daemon anyway
22:27 < Hunterkll> lol
22:29 < StrongBad> I wish my domain login message could have blank lines/carriage returns without having to manually edit a registry entry
22:29 < JollyRgrs> StrongBad: have you tried typing that without boxing gloves?
22:30 < Church-> Welp I funged my email on the first application to the wikimedia foundation.
22:30 < Church-> Woops
22:30 < StrongBad> that's like asking someone if they tried typing it without fingers
22:30 < Church-> Hopefully they actually read the resumes and notice the correct email there. Lol
22:30 < Hunterkll> Church-, job app?
22:30 < Hunterkll> lol
22:30 < Hunterkll> Church-, i had to go from my normal email to my personal gmail
22:30 < Hunterkll> when i got hired in 2014
22:31 < Church-> Heh
22:31 < Hunterkll> because
22:31 < Hunterkll> their email servers were rejecting my self-hosted mail server
22:31 < Hunterkll> because they had a block on OVH IP ranges
22:31 < Hunterkll> :D
22:31 < Church-> Hunterkll: Accidentally stuck a d at the end of my Stack Overflow jobs application.
22:31 < Church-> So emailD@gmail.com rather then email@gmail.con
22:32 < Church-> Hunterkll: heh
22:32 < Hunterkll> lol
22:33 < JollyRgrs> lol
22:33 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/VKzKNKT.jpg
22:33 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 1,203,948 bytes
22:33 < Hunterkll> my loadout for this weekend
22:33 < JollyRgrs> Church-: D@gmail, eh? do you like D@gs?
22:33 < Church-> Yeah I like dags. I like caravans more though.
22:33 < JollyRgrs> :)
22:34 < JollyRgrs> cryptic1: you ever seen that movie?
22:34 < JollyRgrs> cryptic1 has "NOT" seen way too many movies
22:34 < JollyRgrs> The Sandlot
22:34 < Church-> Hunterkll: Whyyyyy
22:34 < Church-> JollyRgrs: Wat
22:34 < JollyRgrs> Monty Python's quest for the holy grail
22:34 < Church-> ...
22:34 < cryptic1> ?
22:34 < JollyRgrs> he can't remember major payne
22:34 < JollyRgrs> couldn't recognize the flying rocket RV from spaceballs
22:34 < Church-> So I should get his position just on my movie history.
22:34 < StrongBad> what kid from the 90s didn't see the sandlot
22:34 < Church-> God damn
22:34 < Hunterkll> Church-, uh, cuz i shoot film using professional level gear?
22:34 < Hunterkll> lol
22:35 < JollyRgrs> StrongBad: he's a kid from before the 90s
22:35 < JollyRgrs> but still not an excuse
22:35 < Church-> Fair enough. Watcha shooting.
22:35 < cryptic1> I mostly watched horror then
22:35 < StrongBad> ferngully?
22:35 < Hunterkll> Church-, anime convention
22:35 < cryptic1> Hellraiser etc
22:35 < Church-> Course
22:35 < Hunterkll> Church-, the CineStill stuff is neat. it's Kodak Vision3 movie film with the remjet removed
22:35 < Hunterkll> pre-removed
22:35 < Hunterkll> so i can just c-41 it at home
22:35 < Hunterkll> instead of ECN-2 process
22:40 < JollyRgrs> riiiiiide captain riiiide upon your mystery ship
22:44 < vinrock> The European Commission is not GDPR compliant even though it was responsible for the new GDPR law
22:44 < vinrock> The European Commission has insisted it is not subject to the strict new data protection law that it has imposed across Europe after it was revealed the personal information of hundreds of people had been leaked on its website.
22:44 < vinrock> laffo
22:46 < mal_will> This guy is just the best https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6_ugobl5sk
22:46 <+layer-eight> * mal_will →  YouTube → お米を研ぎ過ぎると包丁になるのでしょうか？ → ⚘ 1,769,168 ↑ 31,562 ↓ 1,415 ✍ 10,130
22:47 < JollyRgrs> so outsourced team is getting "Group Policy Error" when trying to do updates via SCCM
22:47 < JollyRgrs> "updates will not be made available"
22:47 < mal_will> what does event viewer say?
22:47 < JollyRgrs> such a hard issue to look into... it'll take some time i'm sure
22:48 < JollyRgrs> .... or just checking THAT THE COMPUTER ISN'T EVEN IN AN OU, IT IS SITING IN TEH COMPUTERS CONTAINER STILL!
22:48 < mal_will> oh lol
22:48 < mal_will> that'll do it
22:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> how do you guys normally setup your OUs?
22:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> by dept?
22:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> Accounting, Accounts Payable, etc?
22:59 < abakedapplepie> vinrock: youve gotta be kidding me
22:59 < abakedapplepie> how the fuck does that work
22:59 < vinrock> laws for thee, not for me
23:00 < vinrock> thats how governments seem to work
23:00 < abakedapplepie> McDonaldsWiFi: I set up my OU like this: domain.local\MyBusiness\Users\SBSUsers
23:00 < abakedapplepie> :v
23:04 < JollyRgrs> McDonaldsWiFi: so much depends
23:04 < JollyRgrs> mostly depends on your needs... do you need to segregate computers by department, or by location, or both, or...
23:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol you had me at .local
23:05 < asimon> C ya nerds tomorrow
23:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> JollyRgrs: both here but its a pain tbh
23:05 < JollyRgrs> and same for users... by role, by department, by location, etc... jsut depends
23:05 < JollyRgrs> McDonaldsWiFi: if you ask 10 ppl how to structure your OUs, you'll get 73 different answers
23:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> xD
23:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> sounds accurate tbh
23:07 < McDonaldsWiFi> later haters
23:07 < McDonaldsWiFi> bout that time
23:09 < JollyRgrs> McDonaldsWiFi: so one might say you were... "bout it, bout it"?
23:09 < ThatOneRoadie> fired
23:09 < ThatOneRoadie> McDonaldsWiFi, we're set up by building
23:09 < ThatOneRoadie> to vastly oversimplify it
23:10 < JollyRgrs> at the hospital it was complicated b/c we might have cardiology in three diff locations, but might all share a subset of policies/applications they need
23:11 < JollyRgrs> i mean, in general, simply by building location is only really good if you need to segregate and test groups at a time... but even that's a bad idea
23:11 < vinrock> oh god
23:11 < JollyRgrs> so by location only really helps timmy the tech in locating the device
23:11 < vinrock> you work hipaa?
23:11 < JollyRgrs> vinrock: i'm not anymore
23:11 < mruszczyk> I hate that I'm being made to deploy MSI installed office 2016, when I know I'm going to have to fucking uninstall it in like a fucking year for C2R.
23:11 < vinrock> congrats
23:13 < JollyRgrs> vinrock: eh, wasn't that big of a deal for me
23:13 < JollyRgrs> i was just SCCM there
23:13 < vinrock> ah
23:13 < JollyRgrs> but evne still, HIPPA is mostly about "best efforts"
23:13 < JollyRgrs> there are "guidelines"... kinda like the pirate's code
23:14 < Hunterkll> seriously
23:14 < Sousapro> lol HIPPA feels mostly like feelings
23:14 < Hunterkll> HIPAA isn't bad at all
23:14 < Sousapro> we feel this system is secure
23:14 < Hunterkll> I spent a year and a half in a contract working for DHHS
23:14 < Sousapro> ++hippa approved
23:14 < Hunterkll> a year and a half
23:14 < vinrock> DHS isnt bad
23:14 < Hunterkll> we had datasets that could have been billion dollar breach fines
23:14 < Hunterkll> vinrock, DHHS
23:14 < Hunterkll> not DHS
23:14 < Sousapro> my condolences Hunterkll
23:14 < vinrock> we're members of a few different homeland security programs
23:14 < Hunterkll> normally HHS
23:14 < Hunterkll> i guess
23:14 < vinrock> ah
23:14 < Hunterkll> i mean i do DHS stuff too
23:14 < Hunterkll> but still
23:15 < Hunterkll> HIPAA, our network was FISMA moderate, standard DoD standards compliance, had an ATO from HHS
23:15 < Hunterkll> etc
23:15 < ThatOneRoadie> HIPAA, two A's, JollyRgrs
23:15 < ThatOneRoadie> I just had to pick up a bunch of aegis secure drives for our hipaa shit
23:16 < ThatOneRoadie> We name our computers by location and department
23:16 < ThatOneRoadie> GPO's are applied at the state level, then the building level, then by security group if finer detail is needed
23:16 < vinrock> some highschool kid in jersey is in the news because he rode his dirtbike through the hallway during school
23:17 < vinrock> my man
23:17 < vinrock> brofist
23:18 < ThatOneRoadie> Our hostnames are XXXXYYYYAB## where XXXX is Primary site (Hospital name), YYYY is department. A is a building code if they have more buildings/sites under the same name, and B is the type of workstation (Shared, Single user computer, laptop, tablet, etc)
23:18 < ThatOneRoadie> then the number
23:18 < ThatOneRoadie> between the hostname and the OU we can get very granular with GPO scripts and Security groups
23:19 < JollyRgrs> ThatOneRoadie: thanks, yeah, my mind always thinks two Ps, and i don't see it written enough anymore to correct my brain
23:19 < ThatOneRoadie> like, for example, applying an OU that removes the ability to right click on all computers in the TEXAS State in the ST DAVIDS OU with a Shared PC Hostname
23:20 < ThatOneRoadie> applying a GPO*
23:20 < JollyRgrs> we used Epic at my old place, and i'm not sure if this was their suggestion or our own, but we had a good naming convention... building number (2 char alpha/numeric... we had a lot of buildings) which included other locations physically as well as the main campus
23:20 < ThatOneRoadie> I always thought it was PPA too, patient privacy act, but nope, Accountability Act
23:20 < JollyRgrs> then a floor number and department number
23:20 < JollyRgrs> and then the serialized "W001-W999" for workstations (desktops) and L... for laptops
23:22 < JollyRgrs> i hate that the last 30-60 mintues of my day are usually (not always, but usually) spent wasting time until time to leave
23:23 < vinrock> i dont mind
23:23 < JollyRgrs> sometimes i do just walk out and leave a bit early... but other times i stick around (usually when my mgr is stil sitting at her desk)
23:23 < ThatOneRoadie> yep
23:23 < vinrock> if im working that last 30-60m it usually means im working late to finish whatever it is
23:23 < ThatOneRoadie> All of my management is basically gone already
23:23 < ThatOneRoadie> they're leading by example right
23:23 < ThatOneRoadie> I should just leave now
23:23 < JollyRgrs> vinrock: as i sit here, traffic is getting worse on the roads
23:23 < vinrock> heh
23:23 < vinrock> i was just checking google maps traffic
23:23 < vinrock> i know theat feeling
23:23 < vinrock> ofc theres a crash on the way home
23:23 < vinrock> so now i have to drive through the hood and take the alternate route
23:23 < JollyRgrs> i'd normally not mind, but she came over earlier and commented that both my cube-neighbor team members had both left early today
23:24 < ThatOneRoadie> I don't understand
23:24 < JollyRgrs> vinrock: i have like exponential routes to take home... but there are a few bottlenecks that i can't avoid (we only have so many bridges)
23:24 < JollyRgrs> meh.. i'm just gonna leave
23:24 < ThatOneRoadie> Denver Tech Center has auxiliary lanes (like this http://i5rosequarter.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/auxlanesgraphic2.jpg ) that are, I shit you not, at LEAST a half mile lone
23:24 < JollyRgrs> thunder is starting to roll outside
23:24 <+layer-eight> * ThatOneRoadie →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 162,173 bytes
23:24 < ThatOneRoadie> long*
23:25 < ThatOneRoadie> some are like 1.5 miles
23:25 < ThatOneRoadie> WITHOUT FAIL EVERY SINGLE GODDAMN DAY
23:25 < ThatOneRoadie> someone gets on that aux lane doing like 35 mph in a 65
23:25 < ThatOneRoadie> then dives 2 lanes over into the highway and makes everyone slam on their brakes Right at the start of the lane
23:25 < vinrock> yeah time to bounce outa here
23:25 < vinrock> later homies
23:25 < ThatOneRoadie> doesn't give a shit about getting up to speed or anything
23:25 < ThatOneRoadie> I'm firmly of the opinion that driving a car should be like flying a plane
23:26 < ThatOneRoadie> every two years you have to do an hour of classroom training and an hour with a driving instructor
23:26 < ThatOneRoadie> to renew your license
23:26 < JollyRgrs> ThatOneRoadie: they'd still pass those nutcases you speak of
23:26 < ThatOneRoadie> Sure but at least someone could tell them they're fucking up
23:28 < ThatOneRoadie> you can't technically fail a BFR for flying either
23:28 < Jekotia> I hate whoever physically designed DDR2. The notch placement compared to DDR1 is indiscernable without a reference :|
23:28 < ThatOneRoadie> Biennial flight review
23:29 < ThatOneRoadie> but the CFI can refuse to sign it
23:29 < Stoob> ThatOneRoadie: all we need is 15x more cops and hard, hard, enforcement of all traffic laws
23:29 < ThatOneRoadie> eh
23:29 < ThatOneRoadie> I think the two-year recurrency training would be enough
23:29 < Stoob> i doubt it
23:30 < Stoob> we need guarantees that you fuck up driving, you'll pay for it
23:30 < Stoob> otherwise people will continue to not take the daily drive seriously
23:30 < Jekotia> ^
23:30 < ThatOneRoadie> Well, your license isn't renewed unless you get an instructor to sign off on the 1 hour of classroom and 1 hour of practical trainign
23:30 < ThatOneRoadie> training*
23:30 < ThatOneRoadie> Sure, it's not going to solve everyone's driving issues
23:31 < Stoob> doesnt matter, passed the test now i can continue to drive like an asshole
23:31 < ThatOneRoadie> but it's a damn good start
23:31 < ThatOneRoadie> I think, by and large, most people don't *intend* to drive like cunts
23:31 < ThatOneRoadie> they just don't realize that traffic moves better if you use the entire merge lane
23:31 < ThatOneRoadie> or stay right to pass
23:31 < ThatOneRoadie> or move vehicles off the road into the shoulder immediately after a fender bender
23:31 < ThatOneRoadie> stay right unless passing*
23:32 < Stoob> was going to call you on that :P
23:32 < ThatOneRoadie> I've been dealing with MD's all day
23:32 < ThatOneRoadie> all my words no good more
23:32 < Stoob> regardless, people just don't care enough to actually drive well even when they know they are not driving well
23:33 < Stoob> once I see a single one of the thousands of tailgating cars every day actually get pulled over for tailgating, I'll have some faith in humanity.
23:33 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, https://i.imgur.com/a9btIqk.png
23:33 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 836,882 bytes
23:33 < Stoob> until then, testing and education will only go so far
23:37 < Jekotia> If anyone else regularly finds themselves in a position of wondering WTF the memory module they're looking at is, you might find this useful https://gist.github.com/Jekotia/e835162baee74d3b0af68e0ae4012fbd I made this today and printed a copy to-scale to put with our memory storage
23:37 <+layer-eight> * Jekotia →  To-scale drawings of DDR1-4, and SODIMM DDR 1-3. Useful for determining what a module is if you're in a position where you often stare at one and wonder "WTF is this?" · GitHub
23:38 < SynMonger> Fuck that noise, there's no way you'd get any DMV to sign off on that. Hell, they just upped the renewal on licenses here from 4 years to 8
23:39 < Jekotia> The height is wrong but IDGAF. Just needed width & notch
23:42 < grumplestiltzkin> That's neat. I didn't realize the round vs square notch thing was a part of the spec
23:42 < grumplestiltzkin> side notches I mean, not the moving one
23:45 < Jekotia> grumplestiltzkin: Neither did I! I copy-pasted the SVG's from Wikipedia's article on DDR SDRAM and resized/tweaked them to make the width & key (keep forgetting that's the actual term for the "moving notch"  match the  match the spec
23:46 < Jekotia> s/match/) match
23:46 <+layer-eight> [SED Jekotia] grumplestiltzkin: Neither did I! I copy-pasted the SVG's from Wikipedia's article on DDR SDRAM and resized/tweaked them to make the width & key (keep forgetting that's the actual term for the "moving notch"  ) match the  match the spec
23:48 < Jekotia> 36 256MB chips for a 1GB DDR1 DIMM... God that sounds so horrendously inefficient xD
23:51 <+TuxedoJack> There is something absolutely sublime about working from home. I took a nice long lunch break on a supremely soft, comfy couch with delicious food and a fluffy cat curled up on my lap, and now I've got a hookah full of blueberry-mint shisha and a cup of espresso to round it off.
23:51 <+TuxedoJack> It's the little things
23:51 < Stoob> Jekotia: maybe i'll extrude those and make some 3d prints of DIMMs
23:51 <+coderphive> TuxedoJack that's very Austin of you
23:52 <+TuxedoJack> coderphive: mellows me the fuck out, that's for sure
23:52 <+coderphive> nicotine 4 lyfe
23:56 <+coderphive> sometimes when I'm feeling especially froggy I slip a comment into ##politics on top of someone complaining and be like, "Yeah we have that in Canada"
23:56 <+coderphive> thus begins an hour of complaining
23:56 <+TuxedoJack> You also have Celine Dion and Justin Bieber
23:56 <+coderphive> You guys should try it too
23:56 <+TuxedoJack> So for every silver lining, there's a cloud or two
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