--- Log opened Sun Jun 10 00:00:52 2018
00:24 < Casteil> what a day lol
00:24 < pcspkr> what a motherfucking day
00:24 < m4221> I took a swordsmanship class today
00:24 < Casteil> primary network gateway goes down, IT guy who replaced me is out of town at a wedding, my boss comes to try to fix it
00:25 < Casteil> not far in he gets a call from his wife, her water broke
00:25 <+A-KO> that sounds fun
00:25 < Casteil> I'm flounderin like a derp to fix shit because I've been completely separated from IT/network/sysadmin type stuff for over a year
00:26 < Casteil> (I moved into software development)
00:28 < CoJaBo> So, all I've accomplished today, in trying to narrow down the zfs crash bug, is finding an lxd bug that I also cannot reliably reproduce <_<
01:08 < misspwn> ihre, no i didn't find anything to exploit
01:10 < catbeard> 0xbf27 ?
01:11 < catbeard> or should i say bf5c27
01:21 < kd0t> Is my server more at risk running wp installations with themeforrest templates than say grav with a custom bootstrap theme?
01:21 < kd0t> obviously my client isnt going to want to use a randomly generated pw either
01:22 < kd0t> so not really sure what the besst solution would be
01:24 <+ihre> hugo/jekyll/octopress
01:25 <+ihre> misspwn: thats pretty boring :<
01:26 < catbeard> yes probably kd0t, switch to octobercms
01:26 < kd0t> yeah october is cool
01:26 < kd0t> i been messing around with grav too
01:27 < kd0t> obviously there's no automated scanner for the not so popular cms
01:27 < kd0t> it doesnt mean there not as vulnerable though does it
01:27 < kd0t> but it does stop script kiddies?
01:28 < catbeard> it's made from laravel which has pretty sane options for reducing riff raff, middleware is a bitch (on both ends)
01:28 < kd0t> oh yeah true
01:29 < kd0t> and grav is flat file
01:30 < misspwn> ihre, sorry :(
01:50 < corn266> so if I borrowed a pre-instantiated win10 ISO from a friend, I can dd it to a cd and it'll work as an install?
01:50 < pcspkr> who still uses cd's / dvd's
01:51 < kd0t> lol
01:51 < kd0t> bootable usb >
01:51 < corn266> people who are too drunk to drive to walmart
01:51 < corn266> so is that a yea or a nay on the dd
01:53 < corn266> .shrug I'll let y'all know
02:14 < javi404> well that isn't very good: [root@fedora-lenovo ~]# whois betus.com.pa
02:14 < javi404> [Querying http://www.nic.pa/egh/whois.php]
02:14 < javi404> [HTTP: Unable to run web browser: /usr/bin/lynx: No such file or directory]
04:06 < genr8_> hi
04:08 < MadCamel> high
04:12 < Church-> Heya MadCamel
04:12 < Church-> MadCamel: So rewrote part of my assembler. Looks so much cleaner now.
04:14 < MadCamel> nice. it on gitflub?
04:18 < Church-> MadCamel: Not yet, need to rewrite it slightly further now then I think my toy version can go up.
04:18 < Church-> Only thing it'll be missing though is directives and creating the memory layout correctly.
04:18 < Church-> Got a mockup for now.
04:48 < sideup66> wow
04:48 < sideup66> guy in another room is delusional
04:48 < sideup66> thinks win 10 needs more ram than 7 to run
04:48 < sideup66> and a 4 gb system cant run it
04:48 < sideup66> lol
04:49 < Disconsented> inbound W7 fanboys
04:53 < sideup66> lol
04:53 < sideup66> yep, i mean 7 is good
04:53 < sideup66> but i kinda grew to 10
04:54 < rhqq> cryptic1
04:57 < rhqq> sideup66: truth is initially w10 required muchmore ram than w7 for stable work
04:57 < rhqq> and it is always initial impressions that stick to products...
04:57 < Disconsented> 7 is good in the same way 98 an XP were
04:57 < Disconsented> After updates they were good for their time
04:57 < sideup66> true but its cleaned up
04:57 < Disconsented> but they're all history now
04:57 < Disconsented> 7 should be history by now but people are stubborn
04:57 < sideup66> Disconsented: win 7 is good
04:58 < rhqq> Disconsented: not really
04:58 < sideup66> but its geting old
04:58 < rhqq> win7 is good and is not getting old for non-gaming purposes
04:58 < rhqq> which is where most of the $$ is anyway
04:58 < binaryhermit> unpopular opinion: Vista wasn't that bad
04:58 < sideup66> business still uses 7
04:58 < sideup66> im in a bank
04:58 < rhqq> vista was good after shitload of patches
04:58 < sideup66> ffs we have internal servers on server 2003 still
04:58 < rhqq> win7 is easier to manage
04:58 < sideup66> internal facing, but they still run
04:58 < Disconsented> business is notrious for drawing things out
04:58 < sideup66> they are dieing off
04:59 < Disconsented> At this point W7 should be virtualised or air gapped
04:59 < sideup66> but i mean we are using that, aix, and ibm mainframes still
04:59 < Disconsented> Its been almost 10 years, time to update
04:59 < rhqq> not really
04:59 < rhqq> it's still supported
04:59 < rhqq> so it is not 10 years
04:59 < sideup66> ^this.
04:59 < rhqq> its 0 years
04:59 < rhqq> system starts aging at the moment its support ends
04:59 < Disconsented> Since release you muppet
05:00 < binaryhermit> unless you were trying to run it on minimum spec hardware, IMO
05:00 < rhqq> Disconsented: because of people like you we cant have nice things on this world
05:00 < binaryhermit> I ran it ok for a little while on a system with a 2.8 GHz C2D and at least 3 GB of RAM
05:00 < rhqq> binaryhermit: you mean w10 ?
05:00 < Disconsented> Quite the contary rhqq, I keep my software up to date
05:01 < binaryhermit> no, VISTA Is Shittiest Turd Anywhere
05:01 < Disconsented> Vista is a product of bandwaggoning and crappy support vendor side
05:01 < rhqq> Disconsented: did you mean "i like to betatest shitty products"
05:01 < rhqq> because its still beta for w10
05:01 < rhqq> in most cases
05:01 < sideup66> actually win vista is where ms decided to force hardware makers to stop being lazy fucks and write competent drivers
05:01 < rhqq> given how many fuss is going on around every single major update
05:01 < sideup66> remember the bsod nightmares in xp over friggin gpus?
05:01 < binaryhermit> I can't remember when exactly I upgraded to 4 GB of RAM
05:02 < binaryhermit> that system shipped with 3 GB
05:02 < Disconsented> https://puu.sh/ACl8V/1119134079.png
05:02 < Disconsented> yeah too bad I am not using W10
05:02 < Disconsented> That and antibeacon so I stay on stable updates
05:03 < sideup66> antibeacon
05:03 < sideup66> wat
05:03 < sideup66> u dont monthly patch cycle it
05:03 < sideup66> welp
05:03 < sideup66> enjoy your bloat and os rot
05:03 < Disconsented> What bloat lol
05:03 < Disconsented> Antibeacon disables it
05:03 < sideup66> lol you mean when you update
05:03 < sideup66> you dont do the montly rollup
05:04 < sideup66> wat
05:04 < sideup66> which is the greatest thing to happen to w7 since....the convience rollup
05:04 < sideup66> convenience*
05:05  * binaryhermit remembers being on a college network with a fresh install of XP SP1 circa 2005
05:05 < binaryhermit> you literally would get pwnt before you could patch it
05:06 < binaryhermit> you had to download SP2 and back it up, then reinstall with no network
05:06 < binaryhermit> and install SP2 offline
05:06 < sideup66> ouch
05:07 < sideup66> i still have win7 pro sp2
05:07 < sideup66> im sorry
05:07 < sideup66> sp3
05:07 < sideup66> with a crack from sp2 i made work on 3 with a patched ntlogon file
05:07 < sideup66> lol
05:07 < sideup66> works for old games and a vm if needed
05:07 < sideup66> obviously not online anymor
05:07 < sideup66> e
05:08 < binaryhermit> since sp2 was at the time recent enough to not be instapwnable by known circulating methods
05:08 < binaryhermit> I'm sure the  NSA could do it
05:09 < binaryhermit> tbh, carrier grade nat would have saved IT a lot of headaches
05:10 < sideup66> lol
05:13 < DLSteve> apparently I can still download XP with my MSDN subscription lol.
05:14 < sideup66> lol
05:41 < desgen> seems someone doesnt like windows
05:53 < Casteil> http://i.imgur.com/bOzkImd.gifv
08:09 < MikeSpears> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/DYuMoeI8/20180610_005137.jpg
09:53 < Atro> Boring
10:17 < Waffles> Well Atro, it's the middle of the night in North America, so there won't be much activity
10:17 < Waffles> That being said, it is pretty quiet.  Though it's my first time here so not sure if it ever gets "exciting" at this time
10:19 <+ihre> never busy during the weekend here
10:20 < Waffles> Ah, should've known
10:21 < Atro> Waffles: i meant MikeSpears 's build
10:22 < MikeSpears> It's simple, clean, and functional
10:22 < MikeSpears> That's the whole point
10:23 < catbeard> i hear that's all the rage with the ladies these days
10:23 < catbeard> hey MikeSpears
10:23 < Waffles> Mm I see
10:23 < MikeSpears> Sup, I'm about to go to sleep
10:24 < catbeard> lol forbidden php
10:24 < catbeard> fucking disgusting but it works
10:25 < catbeard> need a single file php orm class that's simple and has a like not_find_one() function or something
10:27 < catbeard> now if fucking our own gd apis would stop returning ids that happen to be duplicates locally
12:32 <+ihre> mmmm, tasty, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQeyjgSUlrk
12:46 < Trapdoor> So happy I deployed IRC for the offshore network
12:48 < Trapdoor> nothing but trolling and shitposting between the crew
14:19 < rum_fiend> o/
14:22 < varesa> thanks Azure for InternalDiskManagementError killing and preventing the startup of a production server
14:23 < varesa> so how's your sunday going?
14:24 < rum_fiend> chill so far, thinking of what to do next in python
14:34 < varesa> what did you last do in python?
14:38 < rum_fiend> checks notices from the monitoring caused by failed nginx config checks, logs in the server to verify if its a false-positive and removes the notices if it is || spams me to log in and fix it
14:38 < rum_fiend> yeah, and log everything that it does/finds
15:10 < m4221> Hi
15:42 < varesa> hi
15:55 < Sousapro> Oh, Intel. That 28 core at 5 GHz demo that they did the day before threadripper 2 was officially announced was effectively fake lmao
15:55 < _KaszpiR_> source?
15:56 < Sousapro> Binning the best Xeon platinum ever made, massive exotic cooling, and massive overclocking
15:56 < Sousapro> One second
15:56 < Sousapro> https://www.techspot.com/amp/news/75009-intel-28-core-fantasy-vs-amd-32-core.html
16:01 < _KaszpiR_> well they said it's running overclocked on chiller
16:04 < Sousapro> Lmao and they had the gall to post cinebench numbers
16:05 < Sousapro> I'm going to go listen and look
16:05 < Sousapro> I don't think they mentioned it
16:05 < Sousapro> I think they were caught doing it
16:05 < Sousapro> There's one thing to marketing hype and binning
16:06 < _KaszpiR_> https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-28-core-cpu-5ghz,37244.html title says it all
16:06 < _KaszpiR_> whatever
16:06 < _KaszpiR_> ;)
16:06 < Sousapro> Yeah lol
16:07 < Sousapro> They forgot the day before their major competitor rekt their HEDT platform lol
16:07 < _KaszpiR_> also looking a tthat https://www.anandtech.com/show/12932/intel-confirms-some-details-about-28core-5-ghz-demonstration any person that did a bit of reading would otice those pipes are protected by foam so it cannot be normal cooling
16:09 < _KaszpiR_> god that motherboard
16:26 < m4221> Boo
16:31 <@cryptic1> intels 28 core demo was a joke
16:31 <@cryptic1> s/joke/pathetic
16:56 < ned0> anybody heard anything good/bad about working at Zayo?
17:14 < Sousapro> cryptic1: I'm fully willing to admit that intel still has the lead in IPC (probably) but I'm getting tired of their desperation every time AMD puts out something decent. it's like they've forgotten how to compete and drop into elementary school mode before every AMD press conference
17:15 < Sousapro> I would like for this to be a classy competition between them but it seems like intel doesn't like anyone else at it's food bowl
17:15 < Sousapro> http://animalsense.com/cms-admin/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/1011-peanut_guarding_bowl_1DSC_0055.jpg
17:17 < Alternity> uh... what?
17:17 < Alternity> the only reason you can get a 6 core i5 right now is because of amd
17:18 < Alternity> and intel is directly working with amd to integrate their gpu's because intel knows their gfx sucks
17:19 < Alternity> also intel is far from 'desperate'.  62 billion revenue in 2017 vs 5 billion for amd.  that's 12.4 times as much....
17:19 < Sousapro> look at that 5ghz 'demo' 1 day before a known major AMD CPU release
17:19 < DLSteve> Sousapro, Considering that they lost big time in the mobile CPU arena they are hanging on the x86 for dear life.
17:19 < DLSteve> *on to
17:19 < Alternity> intel vs amd is probably one of the better example of market forces working in favour of the consumer.  intel is trying harder in the cpu space than they have in years
17:20 < Sousapro> Alternity: I'm not saying they are losing money or anything like that. just that they have been showing poor sportsmanship ever since Ryzen was launched
17:20 < Sousapro> Alternity: and they have no need to. they're in the lead still
17:21 < Sousapro> Alternity: ++ on them trying harder now
17:21 < Sousapro> everyone wins at the moment
17:21 < Sousapro> I just wish intel's attitude was better about it right now
17:21 < Alternity> intel obviously fucked up with that 28 core demo
17:21 < Alternity> i take it all as a positive though, they are trying harder
17:22 < Alternity> intel's done plenty of shady shit over the years, it's what corporations do
17:22 < Sousapro> I know but that one is particularly cringeworthy
17:22 < Alternity> https://www.extremetech.com/computing/184323-intel-stuck-with-1-45-billion-fine-in-europe-for-unfair-and-damaging-practices-against-amd
17:22 < Alternity> https://phys.org/news/2005-06-amd-sues-intel-monopoly-abuses.html
17:23 < Alternity> i find those much more cringeworthy.  but they're not gamer chips so it gets less press
17:23 < Sousapro> that's fair
17:24 < Sousapro> I forgot how bad Intel has been in the past
17:24 < Alternity> also 1.45 billion fine :/  i hate these fines
17:24 < Alternity> because they make so much more damn money than that
17:24 < Alternity> its like when hsbc was fined for money laundering and it was like 1% of the profit they made
17:24 < Sousapro> I personally think fines like that should be at least 200% of profits earned
17:25 < Sousapro> by whatever you're fining against
17:25 < Alternity> agreed, apparently even selling to north korea doesn't get you that anymore
17:25 < Alternity> looking at you ZTE...
17:25 < Sousapro> probably the fact that those sanctions were going to officially end ZTE lol
17:26 < DLSteve> Sousapro, It's can be hard. Not all situations where a law was broken end up in profit.
17:26 < Casteil> nice, Ubiquiti keeps improving the UI of AirOS
17:26 < Sousapro> DLSteve: leave the other fines on the books so that it's an either/or
17:26 < Alternity> i'm hopeful for zen 2
17:26 < Casteil> it's always looked pretty slick but they keep making improvements to it.. https://i.imgur.com/MmhZacK.png
17:26 < Alternity> seems like amd has a good pace going
17:26 < Alternity> thats basically the new UNMS style Casteil
17:27 < Sousapro> Casteil: that does look nice
17:27 < Alternity> UNMS is pretty solid btw.  we have all our airOS devices and our switches using it
17:27 < DLSteve> Sousapro, Some do scale. Violations of GDPR can end up with fines that are 4% of global revenue (not profit).
17:27 < DLSteve> That can kill some companies.
17:27 < Sousapro> DLSteve: sometimes companies have to die
17:28 < Sousapro> DLSteve: especially if it's intentional and repeated
17:28 < Sousapro> if you played real life carmageddon, you'd expect to sit on death row right?
17:28 < Alternity> i'm a fan of GDPR but it needs more clarification
17:28 < Sousapro> agreed
17:29 < Alternity> i feel bad for the EU sysadmins trying to deal with it
17:29 < Alternity> then again I deal with HIPAA and SOC2
17:29 < Sousapro> I hope an honest mistake doesn't take down a large multinational
17:29 < Casteil> absolutely love my Litebeam PtP setup, zero regrets
17:29 < DLSteve> Eh I'm mixed on that one. The people who are in charge and responsible are usually not the one who suffer in those scenarios. I think they should just hold company executives accountable and give them jail time.
17:29 < Alternity> but at least those are pretty well mapped out already
17:29 < Casteil> $140 or so startup cost to save like $70-90 a month on internet :P
17:29 < Alternity> and HIPAA is actually not that difficult, it's mostly common sense
17:29 < Alternity> getting a BAA with every fucking vendor is a bit annoying
17:29 < Alternity> DLSteve: agreed
17:30 < Sousapro> DLSteve: why not both?
17:30 < Sousapro> pour décourager les autres
17:30 < Sousapro> I know that stuff never works
17:31 < Sousapro> but it would be nice if you weren't able to brandish money like captain americas shield
17:31 < DLSteve> Sousapro, Killing a large company kills thousands of ligament jobs. You fine the company and put the responsible executives in jail and that should curb a lot of it.
17:31 < DLSteve> Too often they hid behind the corporate shield.
17:31 < DLSteve> *hide
17:31 < Sousapro> yeah
17:32 < DLSteve> If they are making as much money as they are being at the top then they can accept the risk of jail time. It's hazard pay imo.
17:32 < Sousapro> I guess you have to be Martin Shkreli to go to jail
17:33 < Sousapro> wish I could fail remotely that hard and not end up permanently unemployed
17:33 < Alternity> he's still worth millions and millions
17:33 < Alternity> he's in club fed
17:33 < Sousapro> yeah, they need to transfer him to general pop
17:33 < Alternity> probably nicer than some apartments
17:33 < DLSteve> Heh, the only ones who go to jail are the ones who screw over their fellow rich counterparts. If you hurt the little guys nothing happens to you.
17:34 < Alternity> this is why you need fuck you money
17:34 < Alternity> so you're not so goddam beholden
17:34 < Sousapro> I made the mistake of getting married and wife decided to go from the path of becoming a medical examiner to working retail
17:34 < Alternity> one of my co-workers has fuck you money.  they demand all sorts of shit from management and get it
17:35 < Alternity> they're paid like 50% above average for their job title
17:35 < Sousapro> I make enough now that I would have fuck you money in 6 months without having to pay for everything the wife does lol
17:35 < Sousapro> Alternity: because they're willing to aggressively negotiate
17:36 < Alternity> i think i read a stat that more than half of divorces are due to finances
17:36 < Alternity> ya thats what i mean, they can afford to walk away and everyone knows it
17:36 < Sousapro> income disparity sucks
17:36 < Sousapro> if we both were making my level of money, life would be pretty easy
17:36 < Alternity> r/financialindependence has really helped me clarify my goals
17:36 < Alternity> i'm saving about 50% pretax atm
17:37 < Alternity> started a bit late but hopefully be able to retire if i want to around 45, we'll see
17:37 < Alternity> going to need to move to a higher COL area in the next few years probably :/
17:38 < Alternity> got kids Sousapro?  at a certain point it's cheaper for wife to stay at home and take care of kids
17:38 < Sousapro> Alternity: no
17:38 < Alternity> cost of daycare is more than retail salary pretty commonly
17:38 < Sousapro> yeah, that's what I noticed too
17:38 < Sousapro> people work terrible jobs to pay for daycare
17:39 < Sousapro> unless you suck at raising your own kid, raise your kid
17:39 < Sousapro> lol
17:39 < Alternity> also there are plenty of good paying career paths that don't require a 4 year degree
17:39 < Alternity> getting a massage license is like 6 months, and they make very good money
17:39 < Sousapro> she's finishing up her bachelors online right now
17:39 < Sousapro> so it might get better eventually
17:40 <+NinjaStyle> I want a CMS that generates only static pages
17:40 < Alternity> this is why i'll probably never get married.  i don't trust people
17:40 < Alternity> except advice from strangers on reddit ofc
17:43 < Sousapro> Alternity: I trust people to be human
17:43 < Alternity> you never know, the lizard people are among us
17:43 <+NinjaStyle> I'm lizard
17:43  * Sousapro looks at cryptic1 
17:43 < Alternity> hello Mr.Lizarsd
17:43 < Sousapro> SHH
17:44 < Sousapro> the admins will hear
17:44 < Sousapro> and then felda will come back
17:46 < Alternity> was he banned?
17:46 < Alternity> my coworker is from this channel as well.  we make pfsense felda jokes in our office regularly
17:52 < Sousapro> I'm pretty sure not
17:52 < Sousapro> why would we ban felda
17:52 < Sousapro> pfsense is love
17:52 < Sousapro> pfsense is life
18:04 < L3gacy> good bacon to all!
18:34 < misspwn> hi
18:56 < corn266> any reason why i get a "cannot write to read only media" when attempting to `dd if=$FILE of=/dev/sr0` ?
19:01 < rum_fiend> is sr0 mounted and with what options is it mounted
19:01 < rum_fiend> agh, he left ...
19:07 < L3gacy> rum_fiend: Need tequila?
19:07 <+NinjaStyle> He obviously only drinks vodka
19:07 < L3gacy> Got an amazing source for pomegranate flavored :)
19:12 < rum_fiend> not really, I got a Jack the other day that needs to be opened
19:39 < MillerBOSS> Have good mosh pitting
19:56 < Casteil> weird having been up for so long on a saturday/sunday but it's still not even 2pm
20:00 < L3gacy> Why am I not nekkid and famous, yet?
20:07 < rum_fiend> L3gacy: you dont have bobs and vegana?
20:09 < L3gacy> nopes
20:10 < rum_fiend> well there you go
20:10 < rum_fiend> you can get famous with your scripts tho, start writing em or share if you already have some
20:11 < dragonfleas> anybody boutta watch some e3?
20:11 < dragonfleas> i'm ready for gaylo 6
20:54 < MillerBOSS> Screen Time on iOS 12 is pretty neat eh
20:55 < MillerBOSS> Installed iOS 12 on a iPhone at work. It states I picked it up 85 times on Wednesday
21:02 < MillerBOSS> https://www.techmeme.com/180609/p8#a180609p8
21:02  * MillerBOSS sets mode +v layer-eight cryptic1 
21:02 < MillerBOSS> EA is testing a multi-device game streaming service, announces Origin Access Premier, a $14.99/mo tier for its subscription program with access to all new games
21:07 < L3gacy> MillerBOSS: Ea can perturb my scrot
21:11 < MillerBOSS> Saw what meow?
21:15 < dragonfleas> MillerBOSS, are you watching E3?
21:15 < MillerBOSS> No
21:15 < MillerBOSS> Should I be?
21:20  * MillerBOSS looks at dragonfleas 
21:55 < gavit> I can ping my gateway from the  pfsense vm, but I cant seem to reach the internet. I dont understand
21:56 < gavit> my default gateway is set as well
22:04 < JollyRgrs> gavit: can you ping from pfsense out to internet?
22:04 < JollyRgrs> have you tried pinging a WAN IP vs just DNS name?
22:05 < Casteil> finally ordered a pellet pistol to take care of some pests on my property >.>
22:06 < gavit> JollyRgrs: I am not able to ping it
22:06 < gavit> that's odd
22:06 < JollyRgrs> ping what?
22:06 < JollyRgrs> 8.8.8.8?
22:06 < gavit> the ip of the VPN
22:07 < gavit> VPN -> 8.8.8.8 doesnt work. ping from internet to public ip from VPN also doesnt work
22:07 < gavit> but I am able to ping the gateway on both sides
22:08 < dragonfleas> HALO 6 WOOOOOO
22:11 < genr8_> gavit: do you know the basics of routing?
22:13 < genr8_> also, ping isnt the best test cause ICMP is commonly blocked
22:16 < genr8_> go into Firewall | Rules and check WAN and your VPN rules. you need explicit allow rules for every traffic you want passed
22:19 <@cryptic1> rumor has it JollyRgrs preordered the 29 Core intel processor and ac unit that comes with tit
22:19 <@cryptic1> s/tit/it
22:19 < MillerBOSS> So JollyRgrs is moving in with Hunterkll next? Or is Hunterkll moving in with JollyRgrs ?
22:20 < JollyRgrs> if only it came with tit, i'd prob. order it
22:20 < JollyRgrs> and no
22:20 < JollyRgrs> just no
22:20 <@cryptic1> HA!
22:20 <@cryptic1> so its true then JollyRgrs
22:23 < JollyRgrs> wait, it does come with a tit?
22:24 <@cryptic1> yes JollyRgrs it does
22:24 < genr8_> I wish i had more things to route
22:25 < genr8_> ive got most of my local ports mapped through an openVPN tunnel on my pfsense, going to my Vultr VPS and NAT/Masqueraded through IPtables back
22:26 < MillerBOSS> Microsoft forks OpenVPN https://github.com/Microsoft/PQCrypto-VPN
22:26 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  GitHub → Microsoft → PQCrypto-VPN → Post-quantum Cryptography VPN → @ ~ a day ago → Perl → ✡ 94 → Forks: 13 → ☹ 1
22:29 <+coderphive> Just installed a Rachio
22:29 <+coderphive> Pretty neat device
22:30 <+coderphive> I'm about to go digging around in my yard raising up sprinklers doe
22:33 < genr8_> whoa. post quantum crypto.
22:33 < genr8_>  is this the first one ? or are other ppl doing PQ things. i remember there being a website devoted to the status of Q Crypto
22:34 < genr8_> they have a Quantum Development Kit and Q#
22:34 < genr8_> yea this was the site i remember https://pqcrypto.org/
22:36 < genr8_> we should be teaching each other cool new stuff, in here
22:37 < MillerBOSS> Yes you are right genr8_. Ready, go@
22:38 < genr8_> the problem is with repeating existing info. nobody wants to be the one to repeat old info as if they just found out
22:39 < MillerBOSS> Its new to someone
22:39 < genr8_> yep
22:39 < genr8_> i'd kinda prefer not talking to myself tho
22:39 < MillerBOSS> I will repeat old info. :P
22:39 < genr8_> i will also. i do my part
22:40 < MillerBOSS> Pluto a no longer a planet.
22:40 < MillerBOSS> NO!!!
22:41 < genr8_> everyone i know is watching the E3 Microsoft press conference
22:41 < genr8_> like, xbox games
22:44 < MillerBOSS> http://i.imgur.com/9LArj.jpg http://i.imgur.com/S7vhi.jpg <- is a 3G AT&T Microcell.  I got a used  DPH-154 which is the 4G version. Found out after opening it has some security mechanism that when you pull the cover off there are jumpers pulled off. 3 real and 3 fake.
22:44 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 712,970 bytes
22:44 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 661,647 bytes
22:44 < MillerBOSS> I can not find any where about what to put where
22:45 < MillerBOSS> Else when I plug it in it will be no worky. I was looking for a way to connect an external GPS device.
22:48 < MillerBOSS> And all numbers on the board do not come up in Google which seems very odd
22:52 < genr8_> wow
22:53 < genr8_> what do you mean 3 real and 3 fake. i see 1 front and 1 back
22:54 < genr8_> how were they held in ? Theres no residue ? faint scratches
22:54 < MillerBOSS> The on int he pictures is the 3G model. I have the 4G model. 4G model DPH-154 has 12 pins. 3 real jumpers and 3 fake jumpers. Like you almost have to guess which go where
22:55 < MillerBOSS> Yeah a plastic piece that pulls the jumpers off when you pull the cover off
22:55 < MillerBOSS> I can't see any scratches
22:55 < genr8_> maybe its just already bricked
22:55 < genr8_> if the jumpers disconnect the chip could wipe or something
22:56 < MillerBOSS> I have read that as long as power is not given it should still work
22:56 < genr8_> so when u opened it, 3 jumpers fell out, and you have 6 on the board
22:57 < genr8_> maybe its decipherable by following the PCB Traces
22:58 < MillerBOSS> Nah 6 plastic black jumpers. 3 have metal in them and 3 are blank. See the 3G model cover. The 3G model has jumpers on top and bottom. See the gray device that will pull the jumpers off https://cdn.embedded.com/ContentEETimes/Images/EDN/Teardowns/3GMicroCell/3G-MicroCell-side-panel.jpg
22:58 < genr8_> i'd guess 1 block is entirely blocked off and 1 is entirely unblocked
22:58 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 39,411 bytes
22:58 < genr8_> ohhh lol.. dummy jumpers
22:58 < MillerBOSS> Exactly.
22:59 <+coderphive> https://mattouille.com/articles/2018-06/lets-talk-devops-job-titles
22:59 <+layer-eight> * coderphive →  Let's talk DevOps job titles
22:59 <+coderphive> In case you guys are interested
22:59 < genr8_> you're screwed. you'd need a working device to decode that dummy jumper system
22:59 < MillerBOSS> So looking at the traces. There are 12 pins. There are 6 sets. 2x6 if that makes sense. 2 sets have no traces. 4 do. So its a 1 in four chance
23:01 < genr8_> what do they do?
23:04 < MillerBOSS> Getting pictures.
23:05 < genr8_> is their underlying function unknown to you ?
23:06 < MillerBOSS> For the jumpers? From what I can tell for being an anti tampering mechanism.
23:06 < genr8_> it might just reset AT&T's specific frequencies from the NVRAM or assign a specific frequency based on a lookup table
23:07 < genr8_> it might not be all that crucial
23:07 < genr8_> regional setting
23:07 < genr8_> could be a buncha benign stuff
23:10 < genr8_> https://youtu.be/t_PJQUWO_w0?t=699
23:10 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  ⚓  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_PJQUWO_w0&feature=youtu.be&t=699 → YouTube → How Many Bricks Does it Take to Crack a Microcell | Black Hat 2012 USA → ⚘ 1,837 ↑ 9 ↓ 0 ✍ 2
23:11 < genr8_> The device includes a nice little tamper-detection mechanism which uses a set of 6 possible jumpers (3 of which are marked in purple on the above phot) to detect when someone removes the covers. The specific jumper-settings are supposedly unique per device. We’ve discovered some interesting things about this tamper-detection technique, but we’ll defer that to some other post.
23:13 < genr8_> http://cholla.mmto.org/electronics/femto/
23:13 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  ATT DPH153-AT Femtocell
23:14 < genr8_> everything im reading basically says you need to have not fucked those jumpers up
23:16 < JollyRgrs> whoppsies
23:16 < JollyRgrs> did this unit not have a GPS antenna port on it?
23:16 < JollyRgrs> even hotspots seem to have a spot where you can screw in an external GPS antenna
23:16 <+coderphive> I think I'm going to buy a NUC and drop my servers at work @JollyRgrs
23:18 < genr8_> this guy explains the jumpers well :  http://cholla.mmto.org/electronics/femto/
23:18 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  ATT DPH153-AT Femtocell
23:18 < genr8_> woops not that.
23:19 < genr8_> https://www.anandtech.com/comments/3626/att-3g-microcell-a-comprehensive-exploration/143515
23:19 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  Comments for AT&T 3G MicroCell: A Comprehensive Exploration
23:24 < genr8_> this femtocell shit looks pretty cool
23:25 < m4221> Has anyone seen Oceans 8?
23:26 < JollyRgrs> i don't really plan on it
23:26 < JollyRgrs> 12 and 13 kinda died out (was there even a 13?)
23:27 < JollyRgrs> but oceans 8 is just tryin to force a movie
23:28 < genr8_> you never know. 8 is probably for sure gonna be better than 12 and 13
23:29 < JollyRgrs> https://imgur.com/gallery/Cl64Vtb
23:29 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  IMGUR Gallery → johny696969 → He is about to order a lot of seeds  → 8 hours ago → No Topic → 1 Image → ⚘ 127,891 → ☺ 3,275 → ☹ 22 → ✡ 3316 → ✍ 86
23:29 < JollyRgrs> i can see bad things happening soon
23:29 < genr8_> i ordered that beef jerky. its not here yet. Wild Bills
23:30 < xe0n> morn
23:32 < JollyRgrs> genr8_: i picked some up at the grocery store the other day :)
23:34 < MillerBOSS> Still working on the pictures. I got stuck with something. JollyRgrs no GPS port that is why I opened it. I had the white larger 3G version and it had a port. This version the black version has no port and is not the same device in your links genr8_
23:35 < genr8_> must be the new one
23:36 < MillerBOSS> It going to be used here at work and being by a window is very difficult. I already have a GPS device on the roof I had for the 3G femtocell. I sold it a few years ago but wanted to get the 4G version.
23:36 < MillerBOSS> But its as if the model number is the same as the white version. The 4G version is black. 3G is white.
23:37 < JollyRgrs> https://imgur.com/gallery/EqpBO2O+
23:37 < MillerBOSS> Whats the cool part that you see in the femtocell stuff genr8_ ?
23:37 < JollyRgrs> oops
23:37 < JollyRgrs> https://imgur.com/gallery/EqpBO2O
23:37 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  IMGUR Gallery → WhatForDinner → Not Today → 8 hours ago → No Topic → 1 Image → ⚘ 116,714 → ☺ 2,755 → ☹ 40 → ✡ 2773 → ✍ 165
23:37 < genr8_> idk i just realized this was a thing
23:38 < genr8_> so how _were_ you gonna hook up the external GPS port
23:38 < genr8_> is it just a tiny coaxial cable you have to solder or somethin ?
23:39 < MillerBOSS> Once and a great while Apple photos from iOS to macOS do not update right away
23:39 < JollyRgrs> for most, it is just one you screw onto the connector :P
23:39 < genr8_> maybe it has a mini uFL Connector on the board
23:39 < MillerBOSS> About the port I am not sure. At the least I want to get the jumpers back on properly.
23:40 < genr8_> https://www.adafruit.com/product/851
23:40 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  SMA to uFL/u.FL/IPX/IPEX RF Adapter Cable ID: 851 - $3.95 : Adafruit Industries, Unique & fun DIY electronics and kits
23:42 < genr8_> poke at it with a multimeter
23:43 < genr8_> maybe some jumper pairs are actually non-connected
23:43 < genr8_> check continuity and ohms
23:43 < genr8_> maybe you'll find 4 all with the same resistance
23:45 <+NinjaStyle> Ayyyyyyy
23:46 < m4221> Someone recommend some good movies along the lines of Das Boot and The Hunt for Red October
23:47 < MillerBOSS> Forgive me with my shitty img tags JollyRgrs genr8_ https://millerboss.com/x/note-Ps4h1hT285-M.html
23:47 < MillerBOSS> But click on images for full res
23:47 < MillerBOSS> There are no pins on the bottom.
23:47 < MillerBOSS> The single 5 pins have no traces as far as I can tell
23:49 < MillerBOSS> And the bottom pictures are my example of how the pins sit with the plastic piece that is supposed to be connected to the cover which gets inserted with the side clips.
23:51 < genr8_> MillerBOSS: OK. Start probing the 12 jumper pins 1 at a time, with 1 at a time to the pins of the chip next to it
23:51 < genr8_> i think 4 traces go on the bottom and 2 traces go on the top
23:51 < MillerBOSS> How do you probe?
23:51 < genr8_> and all 6 do in deed go to that chip
23:52 < MillerBOSS> With a volt meter?
23:52 < genr8_> on Resistance setting. lowest one
23:52 < genr8_> yes
23:53 < genr8_> I bet you that all 6 of those pins are goin to that chippie. i cant read the name of the words on it.
23:53 < MillerBOSS> Also J15 is the GPS antenna plug for the inside GPS antenna https://millerboss.com/x/IMG_3018-6.jpg next to the sticker. I was hoping to connect to that some how
23:53 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  IMAGE/JPEG; CHARSET=UTF-8 Document, 702,302 bytes
23:53 < genr8_> ah yeah boom there it is the mini UFL thing
23:54 < genr8_> u.FL connector (also called uFL, IPEX, IPAX, IPX, MHF, and AM).
23:55 < genr8_> look up the name of the chip for the datasheet
23:55 < genr8_> PD557
23:56 < genr8_> PCA9557 Remote 8-Bit I
23:56 < genr8_> 2C and SMBus Low-Power I/O Expander With Reset and Configuration Registers
23:59 < genr8_> well its a configuration chip basically. it reads the jumpers and sends them over I2C
23:59 < MillerBOSS> Add two new photos of full board at bottom https://millerboss.com/x/note-BECPFss39K-5.html
23:59 < MillerBOSS> I got a volt meter. I need to Google for the setting you said
23:59 < genr8_> looks like an Ohm logo. omega
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