--- Log opened Thu Jun 14 00:00:05 2018
--- Day changed Thu Jun 14 2018
00:00 < aName> MillerBOSS: On freenode in general for sure.
00:00 < MillerBOSS> Hunter Kill 1060 W Addison Chicago IL 60613
00:00 <+Hunterkll> o.O
00:00 < aName> Are we going to the game?
00:00 < MillerBOSS> ;)
00:01 <+Hunterkll> i live in a ball field?
00:01 <+Hunterkll> lol
00:01 < MillerBOSS> Yup
00:01 < MillerBOSS> Thats your address.
00:01 <+Hunterkll> am i an Arcanan ?
00:02 < MillerBOSS> The FBI will ask the questions when they get thee. Just hold tight.
00:02 < vavkamil> https://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/8qsmkq/unlocking_a_smart_padlock_using_md5_and_thats_it/
00:02 <+layer-eight> * vavkamil →  Unlocking a smart padlock using MD5... and that's it : netsec
00:03 < aName> What's crazy is the FBI has something like a 96% conviction rate
00:03 < MillerBOSS> >and that's it
00:03 < aName> I dunno if it's just cherry picking, or what
00:03 < aName> But that doesn't sound right
00:03 <+Hunterkll> aName, it is
00:03 <+Hunterkll> the feds won't file unless they have a real strong case
00:03 <+Hunterkll> they don't fuck around with resource allocation
00:03 <+Hunterkll> they probs have like 20 investigations and 1 that pans out
00:03 <+Hunterkll> and 19 that get shut down in like 3 days after starting
00:03 < aName> Yeah that sounds right then
00:04 < MillerBOSS> An MD5 hash, of the Bluetooth MAC Address. The one thing you don't need physical access to the lock to determine. And he found the attack vector by watching unencrypted HTTP posts.
00:04 < MillerBOSS> >Please update the firmware of your lock for security purposes.
00:04 < MillerBOSS> Wow
00:05 < aName> MillerBOSS: lol reminds me of when verizon was deploying routers, with WEP, which if it wasn't bad enough... the key was a hash of the SSID
00:05 < aName> "Well, you tried."
00:06 < MillerBOSS> I have been saying it lately. People just do enough to make it work because they have no idea that anything could go wrong.
00:06 < MillerBOSS> I kinda don't blame them to an extent. Why would they question themselves. "Wow this works. Lets ship it".
00:06 < MillerBOSS> Them as in anyone
00:06 < aName> MillerBOSS: TFW the instructions say to disable SELinux
00:07 < MillerBOSS> Acronyms grr
00:07 < aName> MillerBOSS: IKR? YCYD?
00:08 < MillerBOSS> Yes what does that even mean. Disable SELinux? Is SELinux like a safety deal but some apps want you to disable it? I recall ZoneMinder wants it to be disabled.
00:09 < aName> MillerBOSS: SELinux is basically a set of policies to lock things down. Disabling it wholesale is lazy because you should really figure out what it needs access to and grant it selectively.
00:09 < aName> MillerBOSS: But uh... when it doesn't really matter? Fuck it.
00:09 < MillerBOSS> OK that makes sense
00:09 < aName> Tangentially, it bothers me that Pomplamoose is now two people and five session musicians.
00:10 < zerocool> anyone here set up ceph before?
00:10 < MillerBOSS> Thanks for explaining and not saying Google it.
00:10 < aName> You're welcome. I hate that shit.
00:10 < MillerBOSS> After all we are here to chat about stuff like this
00:10 < aName> Yes.
00:10 < aName> I get that help vampires are a thing
00:11 < aName> But sometimes I literally don't know how to google it and get a useful answer.
00:11 < aName> Heck, a lot of times, someone googling it for me gets me there - I was just using the wrong words
00:11 < zerocool> i am wondering, i have a set of kvm servers with unused local storage, can i use their local storage as ceph... members if that makes sense, i am not sure of terminology yet
00:11 < MillerBOSS> Oh its a red hat thing. So CentOS, Red Hat etc. Is there an equivalent for Debian and the like?
00:12 < aName> Honestly, I don't know.
00:12 < aName> My boss is a big CentOS guy
00:12 < MillerBOSS> Yes you re right about what you said above.
00:12 < aName> So by proxy, I am too
00:12 < aName> lol
00:12 < zerocool> MillerBOSS: if you're asking about SELinux on Debian, I think it's coming with Debian 10
00:12 < MillerBOSS> Gotcha. I tested out the waters with CentOS in my 7 ZoneMinder installs.
00:13 < MillerBOSS> I kinda prefer CentOS to Ubuntu but it sucks that most guides favor Ubuntu mostly.
00:13 < aName> zerocool: Also, RISC is the future, MAN!
00:13 < zerocool> aName: the future is now homie, i got risc in my pocket.
00:14 < aName> I mean... I do too. So I guess they were right in the end, lol
00:14 < zerocool> true that
00:15 < aName> Also the first documented case mod, IIRC
00:16 < L3gacy> So, what LINUX OS cert should I work on, in the future (not the futon... that's where I hide my spare change)
00:16 < L3gacy> ?
00:16 < aName> L3gacy: What weird futon do you have?
00:16 < L3gacy> It falls underneath
00:16 < aName> Most of them are a one-piece mattress on a folding frame there's no place for it to get stu... oh
00:16 < L3gacy> Just changed passwords to over 40 accounts
00:17 < L3gacy> Making sure my EX cant guess jack
00:17 < aName> lol
00:17 < mal_will> I think one of the most frustrating parts of working with vendors is that I can see someone fucking their job up, I'm currently looking for a job but I can't just hotswap and steal their job from them. NCAs and Conflict of Interest, and blah.
00:17 < L3gacy> She blocked me on social over a mental health / Ivanka tweet I posted
00:17 < L3gacy> so I cut her off :)
00:17 < MikeSpears> rekt
00:17 < aName> mal_will: username is appropriate
00:18 < mal_will> I picked it for a reason :)
00:18 < mal_will> so wait, she blocked you but was using your accounts? L3gacy
00:18 < L3gacy> She was using my netflix and hulu
00:18 < L3gacy> we WERE still friends
00:18 < mal_will> how bad was this tweet?
00:18 < MikeSpears> there's your first mistake, why would you still be friends with an ex
00:19 < aName> ^
00:19 < L3gacy> Her son was raging on me, and called me a fucking idiot, for bitching that Trump cut a lot of funding for mental health
00:19 < L3gacy> so he blocked me
00:19 < L3gacy> she then demanded I take down the post and apologize.  I told her to pound sand
00:19 < aName> MikeSpears: Obvious exceptions being amiable breakups due to changing jobs or the like.
00:19 < MikeSpears> yup
00:19 < L3gacy> We jsut didnt work out in the relationship
00:19 < catbeard> "It's me.. "Add Profile""
00:19 < L3gacy> we parted amicably
00:19 < mal_will> lol wonder why
00:20 < L3gacy> But then her mental health was declining after,due to losing her job, and she went fundamentalist religious/Trumperteer
00:20 < aName> MikeSpears: "Would rehire"
00:20 < MikeSpears> lol
00:21 < L3gacy> Trump can do no wrong in her and her son's eyes
00:21 < mal_will> I recently looked at old HS peers fb profiles
00:21 < mal_will> Man, what a shitshow
00:21 < L3gacy> He's just gotten his B.A.S. in biochem too... thought he was smarter than that
00:21 < felda> Is Dual-Booting Windows 10 and Ubuntu 16 still janky?
00:21 < catbeard> the daddy's money rich girls in hs are now trailer trash with 3 baby daddys
00:21 < L3gacy> mal_will: A woman that tortured me visciously in HS with slurs, recently had her husband leave her for another man. LOL
00:21 < mal_will> I think if you're 30 and still vaguebooking,something is wrong
00:21 < catbeard> asking for scratch on fb sale groups
00:21 < MikeSpears> why is the damn modem so tall lol https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/TbtqaRA3/20180613_182111.jpg
00:21 < mal_will> karma? L3gacy
00:21 <+layer-eight> * MikeSpears →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 109,756 bytes
00:21 < felda> I remember in YE OLDEN DAYS Ubuntu overwriting boot info and weird stuff like that
00:22 < mal_will> it's compesating MikeSpears
00:22 < L3gacy> mal_will: even funnier... she WAS beautiful.  Now 300+ lbs
00:22 < catbeard> > me as admin of sale group
00:22 < aName> MikeSpears: Because it's also a SIP box and a TV box
00:22 < catbeard> > le decide whether she's worthy of donations
00:22 < aName> MikeSpears: I've seen inside, there's not much wasted space on those
00:22 < MikeSpears> Oh I know, but still
00:22 < catbeard> > le remembers the way she treated poor people in HS
00:22 < catbeard> > le no
00:22 < L3gacy> She called me (the ex) SCREAMING I better give her access to my netflix LOL.... #BlockingNumbers
00:22 < MikeSpears> Wishing that business had the tm1602
00:22 < mal_will> :( self sabotage L3gacy
00:23 < MikeSpears> Its just a modem and sip
00:23 < aName> MikeSpears: I wish I could get a rackmount cable modem
00:23 < L3gacy> I'm better off.  I feel SO amazing having cut her off :)
00:23 < MikeSpears> And it doesnt have TV equipment lol
00:23 < aName> MikeSpears: Eh, I guessed.
00:23 < MikeSpears> Wifi/voice/modem
00:23  * NinjaStyle climbs out of a report hole. disoriented, he is blinded by the sunlight. the sound of nature is deafening. he runs back to hole, never to leave again.
00:23 < L3gacy> NinjaStyle: lol
00:23  * aName waves
00:24 <+NinjaStyle> WHOS THERE
00:25 < mal_will> Man, I pounded some coffee today. Accomplished all my life's goals
00:25 <+NinjaStyle> i want coffee
00:25 <+NinjaStyle> get me coffee
00:25 < mal_will> I've nothing left for the next hour and 35 minutes
00:25 < aName> mal_will: Cool, so you have my billion dollars ready?
00:25 < mal_will> My life's goals didn't mention that...
00:25 < aName> mal_will: I don't recall asking for your opinion.
00:25 < mal_will> It said to take money from you
00:26 < aName> mal_will: So... get back to it
00:26 < mal_will> fuck you pay me
00:26 < aName> Hmm
00:26 < L3gacy> Coffee :)
00:26 < aName> My place or yours?
00:26 < mal_will> yr ma's
00:26 < L3gacy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h3RJhoqgK8
00:26 <+layer-eight> * L3gacy →  YouTube → Mike Monteiro - "Fuck you pay me" (PT Br) → ⚘ 254,085 ↑ 2,873 ↓ 41 ✍ 56
00:26 < aName> mal_will: So you're into the whole goth thing then?
00:26 < mal_will> so wait
00:27 < mal_will> I swear Carl Ghallager said that in Shameless
00:27 < mal_will> but I can't find it to make it my text tone
00:27 < aName> fuck you pay me is a pretty common phrase
00:27 < mal_will> your mother is a goth? aName
00:27 < mal_will> I didn't think she was THAT old
00:27 < aName> No, but she's dead, so if we're doing it at her place, it's going to be a bit weird.
00:27 < mal_will> ayyyyy history your mom joke
00:28 < mal_will> I specifcally want Carl Ghallager to say it
00:28 < mal_will> whenever I get a work related email
00:28 < aName> Also, speaking of 'ayyy' I just watched 10 minutes of Andrew Dice Clay
00:28 < aName> Don't like him
00:28 < mal_will> gallagher? gallager. galla grrrrr
00:29 <+NinjaStyle> i need a coffee slave bad
00:29 < mal_will> Oh shit, people responded to my youtube comments where I was being a dick
00:29 < aName> lol youtube comments
00:29 < mal_will> what a treat
00:30 < aName> you're being redundant
00:30 < mal_will> *retarded
00:30 < mal_will> sorry that's mean I wanted the lulz but now I feel bad
00:31 < aName> What was the topic of the video?
00:31 < mal_will> I dabble, man
00:31 < aName> What was the topic of the video?
00:31 < mal_will> I go everywhere just spewing nonsense, it's all mostly hateful, but sometimes there's whimsy
00:31 <+Hunterkll> WTF
00:31 <+Hunterkll> i go like a YEAR without vendor calls
00:31 < aName> What was the topic of the video?
00:31 <+Hunterkll> and get slammed sideways in one day
00:31 <+Hunterkll> lol
00:31 <+Hunterkll> and this one was dell
00:31 <+Hunterkll> call, hold music, hangup
00:31 <+Hunterkll> wat
00:32 < aName> I'm not looking to judge, mal_will - but I do need to know.
00:32 < mal_will> I'm pretty into tiny hamster food if you must know aName
00:32 < mal_will> also, this gem. sec
00:33 < mal_will> I've been giggling on this all day
00:33 < mal_will> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnWVMRYLa_U
00:33 <+layer-eight> * mal_will →  YouTube → say it ain't so but matt sharp is the only one singing → ⚘ 305,515 ↑ 11,722 ↓ 172 ✍ 452
00:34 < aName> Oh my god, I just listened to a five minute video of clips with fortnite sounds
00:34 < aName> And it doesn't have the weird sound I keep hearing
00:34 < aName> >.<
00:34 < aName> (If you mute everyone, it's actually a  lot of fun)
00:48 < scwizard> there's an hour until this meetup
00:48 < scwizard> but i've done my work for today
00:48 < scwizard> don't really wanna start on a new thing at 5:48
00:51 < scwizard> maybe i'll just ride around on a bird
01:09 < rpifan> hi
01:16 < benjgvps> Man, I gotta get some popcorn. Tight deadline on a WiFi project for an event, so we ordered equipment before getting full approval from the city that we can actually stick a non-penetrating roof mount on one spot and mount APs to lampposts within the park. It's entirely possible they'll say "fuck no".
01:16 < MikeSpears> Lmao
01:17 < benjgvps> We'll be able to use all that other equipment elsewhere, but it would be pretty funny
01:20 < Sousapro> lol
01:20 < Sousapro> sounds like most projects
01:22 < benjgvps> The backup plan is to half-ass the deployment and change the SSID to our competitor's name
01:33 < rpifan> benjgvps, what city u work for
01:33 < rpifan> i want to work for them
01:35 < benjgvps> nah, I don't work for the city. we're sponsoring an event the city is putting on and part of that is doing WiFi for the event. We're a small ISP
01:35 < rpifan> ohh
01:35 < rpifan> i wanna work for an isp
01:35 < rpifan> show me ur secrets
01:36 < catbeard> show routes bb
01:36 < benjgvps> rpifan: My secrets? be under constant stress all the time. always on call. don't get particularly well. Wear *all* the hats
01:36 < benjgvps> don't get paid particularly well*
01:36 < mal_will> mine too benjgvps
01:36 < rpifan> do u get free internet
01:37 < benjgvps> 150/150 fixed wireless for free, can't complain. Latency is lower than the cable company lol
01:37 < rpifan> where in the world r u located
01:37 < rpifan> benjgvps, maybe we can talk business i got some proposals
01:38 < benjgvps> lol. Land of maple syrup and poutine
01:38 < rpifan> quebec
01:39 < jay-ros> morning gents
01:39 < rpifan> r u french
01:39 < jay-ros> niet
01:39 < rpifan> i mean benjgvps
01:39 < benjgvps> meh, northern ontario. Close enough
01:40 < jay-ros> I don't know where that is, but I'm not that either rip
01:40 < jay-ros> rpi*
01:40 < rpifan> woudl u be willing to move / consult for a south american WISP
01:41 < jay-ros> rpifan - you'd think a wireless company would be one of the first to have the option of remote work
01:41 < L3gacy> the video I posted was about freelancing and getting paid
01:42 < rpifan> its a project i have
01:44 < benjgvps> rpifan: nah, got enough on my plate. WISP consultants are everywhere. And I'm not silly enough to move to the US
01:45 < rpifan> i mean south america
01:45 < rpifan> ecuador
01:45 < benjgvps> oh jesus. extra no
01:45 < jay-ros> comon eh? it'd be fun
01:45 < rpifan> y
01:46 < jay-ros> rpifan - he'd be 6000km from the nearest double-double
01:46 < benjgvps> ^
01:47 < ned0> Ben have you seen the mikrotik lamppost APs?
01:47 < benjgvps> though if you're at all interested in WISP stuff and are on facebook, lurk the fuck out of the "WISP Talk" group on facebook
01:47 < jay-ros> benjgvps - Aussie here, we understand our commonwealth bretheren
01:48 < benjgvps> ned0: which ones?
01:48 < ned0> idk I was just checking out their website recently and they had small APs for sticking up on lampposts or similar
01:48 < rpifan> i will join
01:48 < rpifan> whats a double double
01:48 < jay-ros> ballast transmitters :P
01:49 < ned0> But I couldn’t find anyone who had used their gear before, other than the wired routers
01:49 < jay-ros> ned0 that's because mesh ubiquiti and ruckus are the better products?
01:49 < benjgvps> We used some wAP ACs for a wifi setup at a grocery store, they worked reasonably well. I use all mikrotik wifi gear in my house and it's fine. They're super competitive on price
01:50 < benjgvps> for our wifi deployment for that event in a park, we're probably going to try out Cambium e500 series stuff since it actually does band steering, roaming and other useful stuff where mikrotik is more barebones
01:50 < rpifan> benjgvps, r u doing music festivals
01:51 < benjgvps> They also have PoE passthrough that works with 802.3af and the cambium pinout for ePMP fixed wireless CPEs, which we're using for AP backhauling
01:52 < jay-ros> benjgvps - have you had the chance to compare cambium to ruckus or ubiquiti? I'm implementing on marinas at the moment, looking at testing out wireless output
01:54 < benjgvps> jay-ros: Unfortunately not... We use shitloads of Cambium fixed wireless gear that we're happy with (ePMP and PMP450i 900MHz). Most of our campgrounds and indoor wifi setups are Mikrotik
01:57 < BytesAndCoffee> <offtopic>fuck asthma</offtopic>
01:58 < rpifan> i really
01:58 < benjgvps> As far as range, we've got some hilarious range out of some Mikrotik APs with external omnis before, I had a Note 3 be able to pass traffic at 500 feet. There was very little 2.4GHz in that area, though
01:58 < rpifan> want to get an it job
01:58 < rpifan> where we do music festival
01:58 < rpifan> set ups and such
01:59 < rpifan> i realized at bonnaroo they wer using rfid units connected via ethernet
02:00 < rpifan> to a tool box on the right side
02:00 < rpifan> which i imagine had an AP in it
02:00 < BytesAndCoffee> i wonder if there are HID card autologin systems for computers
02:00 < genr8_> they updated it to have rfid wristbands lately
02:00 < genr8_> they even had cashless payment linked to your wristband thing
02:01 < rpifan> yea
02:01 < rpifan> eexactly
02:01 < rpifan> at 'roo
02:01 < rpifan> but i didnt sign up
02:01 < rpifan> no need for it
02:01 < genr8_> yea cause it got corporatized
02:01 < genr8_> u gotta work for those big companies
02:01 < rpifan> id love to do it for that tho
02:01 < rpifan> itd be awewsomeu
02:01 < rpifan> u get some super vip backstage passes
02:02 < rpifan> also im looking at maybe going to camp bisco
02:02 < rpifan> hear its a little more free drugs and sex
02:03 < genr8_> really? that used to be my favorite one
02:03 < genr8_> until they moved it to the waterpark
02:03 < rpifan> oh yea? whats it like
02:03 < genr8_> its changed
02:04 < genr8_> i still might go
02:04 < rpifan> yea i hear it used to be an indian reservation with no laws
02:05 < genr8_> it was better when it was in mariaville NY, now its in scranton PA
02:05 < rpifan> yea mariaville
02:05 < rpifan> how old r u genr8_ again
02:05 < genr8_> 33
02:05 < genr8_> i look younger.
02:05 < rpifan> thats fine
02:05 < rpifan> im actually trying to come up with a scheme to work from home for a month
02:05 < rpifan> so i can move from miami to new york
02:06 < rpifan> and while im there go to bisco
02:07 < genr8_> its a way diff vibe. im not exactly feeling like paying all that money for the artists in the lineup
02:07 < rpifan> im not really into any of them
02:08 < rpifan> but im into the vibe
02:08 < rpifan> i hear some ppl are naked
02:08 < rpifan> though i was listening to sts9 and found a relaly good vibing song
02:08 < genr8_> its a lot of fun if you go with a group of friends
02:09 < genr8_> theres more downtime to chill and fuck around
02:09 < genr8_> i was only ever the only one of my friends who was down to go
02:10 < genr8_> and don't get me wrong i would go alone, i have before, but its gotta be better music for all 3 days or else its a LONGGG 3 days
02:10 < rpifan> lets go genr8_
02:10 < rpifan> do u have any vip passes lol
02:10 < genr8_> nope. its like $220 maybe i can find someone with a 10% off
02:11 < genr8_> car pass is like another $40
02:11 < genr8_> its less than roo for sure
02:11 < rpifan> yea someone on fb offered me 10percent off, and i dont have a car so just straight up camping maybe vip if i feel like it
02:11 < rpifan> ill have to see if it makes a big diference
02:11 < rpifan> i hear u camp on a mountain with snaked
02:11 < rpifan> snakes
02:11 < genr8_> you have to shrek your gear all the way up said mountain too
02:11 < genr8_> breaking your ankles
02:12 < genr8_> its a bit mad. they need to move venues again then i'd be all over it 100%
02:12 < rpifan> its ok
02:13 < rpifan> i always have to take stuff long distances
02:14 < rpifan> but lets go genr8_ u packing any tabs lol
02:14 < genr8_> fraid not
02:14 < genr8_> we wont need to.
02:15 < rpifan> its all there?
02:15 < rpifan> so amazon stole 100 dollars from me
02:15 < rpifan> my crap never got delievered
02:15 < rpifan> and now they are saying they cant refund me and to file a police report
02:15 < genr8_> yea. cash is king, your avg. wooks with tabs are broke and want your money and this festival is like their job
02:17 < genr8_> fair bit of scammers too. it used to be known that ppls cars would get broken into or stuff stolen outta tents
02:18 < rpifan> wouldnt surprise me
02:18 < rpifan> i dont blame hte wooks
02:18 < rpifan> i do blame amaozn
02:18 < genr8_> maybe someone took it
02:18 < genr8_> they just leave them on your door you now
02:19 < rpifan> idk what the hell. Sigh.
02:19 < rpifan> anyway festie seaons
02:19 < genr8_> i may just buy a 1 day ticket. friday or saturday
02:20 < rpifan> nah stay with me the whole time
02:20 < rpifan> ill be bored too u know
02:20 < rpifan> who is gonna help me trip on acid
02:20 < rpifan> if not genr8_
02:21 < genr8_> why does that NOT sound that desirable ??...
02:22 < rpifan> lol
02:22 < rpifan> i wont trip
02:22 < rpifan> might smoke some
02:22 < rpifan> and drink some
02:22 < rpifan> and pure mdma if i can find it
02:22 < genr8_> people usually keep the good shit for themselves
02:23 < genr8_> so u gotta befriend em
02:23 < genr8_> its not like a 1 person event
02:23 < genr8_> spend like 2 hours with a person suddenly theyre your best friend and giving you free shit sometimes
02:23 < rpifan> i can dig it
02:27 < rpifan> genr8_, totally unrelated r u cute, good human?
02:27 < rpifan> or r u pretty sys admin nerdy
02:29 < genr8_> *looks in the mirror*, pretty rough.
02:29 < rpifan> lol
02:29 < jay-ros> what's your dad like?
02:29 < rpifan> either way if i can swing the month long vacation
02:29 < rpifan> im down for bisco
02:32 < genr8_> alright ill talk to you later
02:33 < joelazot> hello
02:33 < rpifan> hi
02:34 < joelazot> reee
02:34 < rpifan> so whats a good way of asking for a month of WHF from the company
02:34 < joelazot> i don't enjoy compsci class
02:36 < jay-ros> joelazot, what's wrong with it? last time I recall you said it was too easy>
02:37 < joelazot> jay-ros: it's boring
02:38 < genr8_> its so slow
02:38 < jay-ros> what're you covering?
02:38 < genr8_> the pace is off. cause learning should be fun.
02:39 < jay-ros> eh, connect your school microsoft account to vsts and fuck around there instead
02:40 < jay-ros> connect it to azure.microsoft.com/<loc>/free/students, and play around there too
02:47 < joelazot> jay-rosL theory shit
02:48 < joelazot> jay-ros: theory shit
03:19 < Nightcinder> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/06/comcast-makes-65-billion-offer-for-fox-properties-including-hulu-stake/
03:20 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  Comcast offers $65 billion for Fox, says government won’t stop merger | Ars Technica
03:20 <+TuxedoJack> AW FOR FUCK'S SAKE
03:20 <+TuxedoJack> IS Comcast trying to be the worst company in the world?
03:20 < catbeard> no they're just trying to buy it
03:22 < deww> TuxedoJack: didn't think they had competition
03:22 < jesse> TW -> AT&T and now this?
03:26 < hug> lol america
03:27 < hug> The funny thing is that I'm pretty sure that the biggest problem you guys face with the Internet in the near future isn't net neutrality in and of itself.
03:28 < hug> Most other countries don't have explicit net neutrality and they're not regularly fucked by their ISPs.
03:28 < hug> (Hint: Your problem is local monopolies.)
03:28 <@killdash9> and companies owning congress.
03:28 <@killdash9> making those monopolies possible
03:29 < genr8_> frickin comcast
03:30 < eHAPPY> any idea why my apc nmc card keeps timing out when i try to connect to it?
03:31 < genr8_> already in use or locked up?
03:31 < eHAPPY> just installed it, trying to set it up
03:31 < genr8_> wrong port settings?
03:32 < eHAPPY> its blocking all my attempts on 22, 23, 80, 443
03:32 < eHAPPY> i see the arp but cant do anything
03:34 < genr8_> http://www.apc.com/us/en/faqs/FA156064/#Device
03:34 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  Video: How do I configure APC Network Management Card network settings?
03:35 < genr8_> you have to knock with a 113 byte ping
03:35 < eHAPPY> yeah
03:35 < eHAPPY> times out also
03:36 < genr8_> NOTE: Tests have shown that even with the network properly configured, the ability to reference devices that support this option is not immediate. In APC tests, it took between 6 and 16 minutes before this functionality worked.
03:36 < genr8_> If your network is setup correctly (described below), you will be able to access "unconfigured" / just-out-of-the-box NMCs by referencing the NMC as follows:
03:36 < genr8_> 1. At a terminal (or DOS) prompt, ping the NMC using ping apcXXYYZZ
03:36 < genr8_> 2. In a web browser, access the NMC web interface using http://apcXXYYZZ
03:36 < eHAPPY> tried that
03:36 < genr8_> check if your router gave out any DHCPs
03:37 < eHAPPY> its set but hasnt picked up the new ip
03:37 < eHAPPY> the IP im trying is the factory one i got from tcpdump
03:37 < genr8_> can you connect by serial port ?
03:37 < eHAPPY> ive got the cable but no serial port on this workstation lol
03:37 < genr8_> need a USB to serial
03:37 < genr8_> or a com port header if your mobo has one
03:38 < eHAPPY> yeah maybe ill have to dig that up
03:38 < eHAPPY> its in my pandoras box of accessories
03:39 < ekaj_> reeeeeeeeee
03:40 < ekaj_> are there any codes on modern procs that uniquely identify them?
03:41 < genr8_> does this apply: Users will be unable to configure the IP address setting by using ARP on the network management cards running AOS 6.5.0 and 6.5.2. This is a known issue and has been resolved with AOS 6.5.6.
03:41 < genr8_> ekaj: yes
03:41 < xe0n> up
03:41 < xe0n> sup
03:42 < ekaj_> genr8_: on the physical processor? I see a small QR code on this one I have but I don't have a reference
03:44 < eHAPPY> genr8_ haha yeah that might be the issue
03:45 < genr8_> serial number is on the box. that doesnt get you anything tho. what number do you mean
03:46 < ekaj_> I don't have a box. Just a standard i5-7400 proc with a QR code on it and a numer L708A997
03:47 < genr8_> thats the batch code
03:47 < ekaj_> any idea about the qr code?
03:47 < genr8_> the 5 letter stepping starting with the S is more accurate descriptor
03:47 < genr8_> no idea. decode it.
03:47 < ekaj_> I don't want a descriptor.. I want a unique identifier to tell the difference between two procs of the same time
03:47 < ekaj_> *type
03:48 < genr8_> nope
03:48 < genr8_> not on the CPU
03:48 < ekaj_> hmm. some posts seem to think that's what the QR code is
03:49 <@Nostalg14c> Mornin.
03:49 < ekaj_> hi
03:49 < rhqq> morning
03:49 < genr8_> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000021613/processors/intel-core-processors.html
03:49 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  Read ATPO Serial Numbers for Intel® Boxed Processors Using Third...
03:50 < ekaj_> yep that's it
03:50 < ekaj_> now taking a picture of it is the fucking problem
04:01 < Sousapro> I need a 5ghz 18 core cpu
04:02 < Sousapro> That's coming to market this year right
04:02  * Sousapro stares at intel
04:05 < xe0n> loll
04:06 < jay-ros> can I get one on my mobile?
04:09 < jay-ros> like, super fast mobile phone which connects to anything I plug my chromecast mini into
04:10 < jay-ros> so i can switch my pc monitor with usb connected to PIP and run keyboard/mouse on my mobile on the screen so I don't have to pick my phone up?
04:10  * jay-ros stares at collective technology
04:12 < xe0n> can someone buy me a coke?
04:12 < jay-ros> xe0n - airtasker that shit
04:13 < jay-ros> they keep giving out $25 coupons
04:13 < jay-ros> see if it'll work :P
04:24 < nohusuro> Sousapro: wasn't that cpu demo overclocked? and wasn't it 28 core?
04:24 < rhqq> Sousapro: why not 32core from amd? :P
04:24 < rhqq> nohusuro: it was xeon skylake
04:25 < Disconsented> Sousapro> We call that overheating
04:25 < rhqq> 28core, but stock freq is like 2.5ghz
04:25 < Disconsented> That was overclocked
04:25 < Disconsented> and apparntly it died
04:25 < Disconsented> on top of the insane vrm's on that motherboard and stupid cooler
04:25 < rpifan> sihg
04:25 < Sousapro> rhqq: but that's a thing that will exist soon
04:25 < rpifan> gonna have to the police station to file a reportt for a missing package
04:25 < rpifan> such stupid shit
04:26 < rhqq> i'd put my bet that ryzen/epyc is going to be available sooner
04:26 < Sousapro> Disconsented: I want a refrigerator for my water cooling loop
04:26 < Sousapro> nohusuro: yeah, massively
04:26 < Sousapro> nohusuro: they "forgot"
04:26 < nohusuro> lol
04:27 < Sousapro> Their verbiage not mine lol
04:37 < Sousapro> rhqq: I've got the 8 core TR so I'm watching the 32 core part with interest
04:37 < Sousapro> I think my motherboard should be able to handle it
04:38 < genr8_> you can just move up to the 16 now ;p
04:39 < genr8_> 32c is gonna be a lot $
04:40 < MicrosoftLicensi> Hello everyone! I have a question about Microsoft SQL Server licensing, do we have any experts in this area today? The license I want to buy is a Microsoft Open Value one and the details says '1 Year Acquired Year 1', what does that mean? Can I keep using this software after a year?
04:40 < Disconsented> the  refresh 16c parts should be a decently lil upgrade with the extra cores
04:40 < genr8_> sell the 8c TR on ebay
04:40 < MicrosoftLicensi> I'm looking at this: https://www.cdw.com/product/Microsoft-SQL-Server-Enterprise-Core-Edition-License-Software-Assurance/2669813?pfm=srh
04:40 <+layer-eight> * MicrosoftLicensi →  Microsoft SQL Server Enterprise Core Edition License & Software Assurance
04:40 < MicrosoftLicensi> I think only the Software Assurance expires after 1 year but the actual software license is perpetual?
04:41 < genr8_> License Type : License & software assurance
04:41 < genr8_> License Validation Period : 1 year
04:43 < MicrosoftLicensi> Does that mean I can only use the software for 1 year?
04:43 < rpifan> misspwn, hello
04:43 < misspwn> hi!
04:44 < MicrosoftLicensi> or does it mean the software assurance only lasts 1 year and I can keep using the software without SA
04:44 < rpifan> how r u
04:46 < DLSteve> MicrosoftLicensi, Might be something you would want to ask a Microsoft representative.
04:47 < MicrosoftLicensi> Our rep wanted me to buy this much more expensive license: https://www.cdw.com/product/Microsoft-SQL-Server-Enterprise-Core-Edition-license-software-assurance/2669818?pfm=srh
04:47 <+layer-eight> * MicrosoftLicensi →  Microsoft SQL Server Enterprise Core Edition - license & software assurance
04:51 < nohusuro> licenses purchased through any volume licensing program have perpetual rights
04:51 < nohusuro> it's just the software assurance that expires
04:52 < xe0n> lolll @ nick MicrosoftLicensi
04:53 < nohusuro> you are allowed to use the software up to the version that was released prior to the end of your software assurance
04:53 < DLSteve> MicrosoftLicensi, https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/sql-server/sql-server-2017-pricing
04:53 <+layer-eight> * DLSteve →  SQL Server—Pricing and Licensing | Microsoft
04:53 < rpifan> misspwn, now that i know what u look like u seem super chill
04:53 < genr8_> do you even need the software assurance ?
04:53 < nohusuro> also bare in mind that the sql server he's quoting you for, is only 2 core licenses
04:53 < misspwn> rpifan, i am doing well today, how are you?
04:54 < misspwn> o and i am pretty chill!
04:54 < DLSteve> I'm glad I don't have to deal with licensing lol.
04:54 < nohusuro> argh fuck
04:54 <+giant_it_burrit> what the hell did i come back to?
04:54 < nohusuro> I ordered the wrong size fans
04:54 < nohusuro> and I ordered 10 of them -.-
04:54 <+giant_it_burrit> DLSteve: a/s/l?
04:54 < genr8_> the one he linked you to is 3 year software assurance
04:54 < genr8_> do you even need software assurance
04:55 < genr8_> thats why its 3x the price
04:55 < nohusuro> also, do you need enterprise?
04:55 < nohusuro> standard would suit most
04:56 < rpifan> work is frustrating and amazon refuses to return my money for an undelivered package
04:56 < rpifan> they want me to file a cop report
04:56 < xe0n> directions on microsoft are good at making it easier to understand licensing
04:56 <+giant_it_burrit> wut
04:58 < misspwn> we've been experiencing a pretty widespread issue with IE crashing when opening tabs or links and it all seems to be with windows 7. i think the error is ntdll.dll
04:58 < misspwn> nothing i've done has fixed it
04:59 < genr8_> oh man sorry to hear your'e still on IE
05:00 < misspwn> downgrading IE, removing addins, resetting IE settings, checking java, running adw cleaner or ccleaner, rolling updates back, uninstalling IE, installing it
05:00 < misspwn> genr8_, only some use it for some patient site
05:00 < genr8_> thats all you can really do
05:00 < genr8_> its known to be borked at this point though
05:00 < misspwn> and i'm sure you can force it to work in chrome but that's like transfering hot trash to something else emulating hot trash so
05:00 < xe0n> borked bro
05:01 < rpifan> use chrome?
05:01 < misspwn> the site isn't compatible in it  and probably won't be for a while
05:02 < misspwn> maybe i'll call microsoft tomorrow
05:03 < rpifan> lord
05:03 < rpifan> sounds like my fucked up place of work
05:03 < misspwn> i mean it started with one office and ended up spreading like wildfire so obviously something is going on
05:04 < misspwn> fuck man, i even tried some hotfix out of sheer desperation
05:04 < nohusuro> what's the error code in the eventlog?
05:04 < xe0n> computer says no
05:04 < misspwn> the error code in event log for IE is that ntdll.dll module error,  i don't remember more than that
05:05 < nohusuro> I need the 8 digit hex code
05:05 < nohusuro> 0x00000000 << looks like that
05:05 < misspwn> yeah i can check the hex code at work tomorrow
05:05 < nohusuro> oh, you're not there :/
05:05 < nohusuro> can't remote in?
05:05 < misspwn> pretty sure i took a screen shot
05:05 < rpifan> lol
05:05 < misspwn> i mean i could, but i'm off the clock so
05:05 < rpifan> dont ask misspwn to work after hours
05:05 < misspwn> yeah i'd tell you to eat my dick
05:05 < misspwn> if i had one..
05:05 < nohusuro> well they're here talking about a work problem
05:05 < nohusuro> so fuck me right?
05:06 < rpifan> even i have sometimes sinner and do work off the clock
05:06 < misspwn> naw i'm just kinda rambling about it, i'll pop on tomorrow
05:06 < misspwn> i didn't google the hex code because the ntdll.dll thing was all over the webz and so i was starting with that since it seemed to have many solved articles from MS
05:07 < genr8_> cause it has so many OTHER problems with ntdll :p
05:07 < rpifan> so what exactly is the issue tho
05:07 < nohusuro> it's probably a 0xC0000005 error
05:07 < nohusuro> like most that get to ntdll are
05:07 < nohusuro> which is a memory error, usually caused by DEP
05:07 < rpifan> damn department of environmental protection
05:07 < genr8_> so malicious code detected in memory
05:08 < misspwn> uh just IE in general when you open it it'll give that generic not responding has to close bullshit no specific website triggers it that i'm aware of. it took me forever to replicate on someones computer
05:08 < nohusuro> genr8_: or normal buggy code
05:08 < misspwn> and not just file explore just IE
05:08 < nohusuro> usually I'd just collect a dump file and investigate from that
05:09 < genr8_> i want to know how to resolve it. i'll tune in tomorrow
05:09 < misspwn> yeah i have a dump file too, but i was so busy trying to put out other fires
05:09 < rpifan> so it jus happens when u open ur companies website? does it run some kind of web app or something
05:09 < misspwn> uhhh
05:09 < misspwn> nah any site really, but they have to use IE for a specific site
05:10 < genr8_> so something got in
05:10 < misspwn> hell i opened 20 tabs and couldn't get it to crash and then i closed those out and was just casually browsing and opend a new blank tab and it crashed
05:10 < nohusuro> that's a pretty big assumption genr8_
05:10 < rpifan> so using ie is causing problems when you open any website and it started in one office and it has spread ot all your offices
05:10 < genr8_> thats how i roll
05:10 < nohusuro> it could have been a windows update
05:11 < jay-ros> Hey guys, silly one, but I've never gone and removed a forward lookup zone from dns, i.e. it's my first time and I'm removing 10 in the first attempt
05:11 < misspwn> i thought maybe it was a patch or part of an update but not sure what part of the update because the last update was for like generic blah bla security or a microsoft word update/patch which i mean all things considered could have done it and i rolled those out
05:11 < jay-ros> any words of warning? They're all old zones where we had internal web hosting for web pages we don't own anymore
05:11 < misspwn> removed*
05:11 < rpifan> sounds like a malicious error to me too
05:11 < nohusuro> jay-ros: put on some DNS logging and make sure they're not still accessed
05:11 < genr8_> DNS takes a while to see the effect.
05:12 < misspwn> rpifan, so i thought that but we're an MSP so it's not just one company
05:12 < jay-ros> nohusuro, cheers on it now :)
05:12 < misspwn> stranger things have happened
05:12 < jay-ros> genr8_ it'd be a remove and wait a few days scenario. I'm never assuming dns is going to be instantaneous
05:14 < misspwn> what else is going on today in sysadmin world? anything fun?
05:14 < rpifan> yes they deleted the QA db
05:14 < rpifan> and i asked one of the senior guys in my team and he was just deply into production directly
05:14 < rpifan> and im like dude r u serious we arent going to test anything
05:14 < rpifan> and he is like yea
05:15 <+NinjaStyle> Ayyy
05:15 < misspwn> duh testing it on the production :D
05:16 < rpifan> so i was like ok this is ridiculous i asked around on our company slack and it turns out we do have a qa db but it changed names. nad i thought to myself, do i work with people iwth mental health issues
05:16 < rpifan> how is it that you just assume we dont have a qa server anymore
05:16 < rpifan> instead of asking around
05:16 < rpifan> like i just dont get that level of stupidity, that lack of interest
05:17 < misspwn> people are dumb
05:17 < jay-ros> misspwn - I'm creating a new citrix tools configuration for our on prem farm, I've just gone through and restabalised our hyperv farm (upgrading clusters, reconfiguring MPIO setup on SAN ISCSI connections, reintroducing a dead node to the farm after I fixed it), creating a stretched LUN over the network, reconfigured our exchange load balancers, currently cleaning up DNS forwarding zones that are unused
05:17 < misspwn> we got bigger fish to fry
05:17 < nohusuro> A esxi machine died whilst moving a datastore yesterday. Power supply failed. Luckily it's non-production and the volume doesn't appear to have corrupted.
05:17 < rpifan> and this a respected guy who has been at that job for lie 3 years
05:17 < nohusuro> Also randomly downloading files from malicious e-mails onto my dedi to poke at :D
05:17 < rpifan> but u cant just do thing without smoe kind of order and testing
05:17 < rpifan> its stupid and dangerous
05:17 < misspwn> jay-ros, i think i know what you are talking about :D
05:17 < misspwn> you can fire me now
05:18 < misspwn> something something email, F5, and flushin dns
05:18 < misspwn> (i really don't fully comprehend)
05:18 < misspwn> but! it does sound like a really fun project
05:20 < jay-ros> nohusuro - is dns sniffing just a generic check logs, or something else I can stick in as a watcher?
05:21 < nohusuro> is it windows dns or linux?
05:21 < jay-ros> windows
05:21 < jay-ros> AD-DS / DNS
05:21 <+NinjaStyle> I saw 2 mice and 2 cockroaches just now
05:21 <+NinjaStyle> Downtown
05:21 <+NinjaStyle> Same block
05:21 < genr8_> thats it?
05:21 <+NinjaStyle> Yes
05:21 < jay-ros> NinjaStyle, were you disappointed you didn't find four turtles and some pizza crust?
05:22 < jay-ros> I would be disappointed
05:22 < nohusuro> jay-ros: you can use debug logging on the server level
05:23 < nohusuro> although you've probably gonna have to wait until cache invalidates for clients to lookup the address again :/
05:23 < nohusuro> unless you force a dns flush on all attached clients
05:24 < jay-ros> ah righto, gotcha.
05:54 <+NinjaStyle> I drank 3 glasses or rose ayyy
05:55 < rpifan> rose is nice
05:55 < rpifan> tasty sweet wine
06:05 < vader-> you guys ever get Miller's channel unbanned?
06:05 < abakedapplepie> whos banned
06:05 < vader-> his youtube channel
06:06 < abakedapplepie> lol how did he do that
06:11 < genr8_> 3 strikes
06:15 < matty_r> anybody here used HP CMC (Lefthand) with Failover Manager?
06:46 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: btw... just looked at that link to jack link's jerky chews... eww gross man
06:46 <@JollyRgrs> i want a hard mostly dry flat stick of beef... not shredded dip-style meat
06:47 < matty_r> thats what she said
06:50 < BytesAndCoffee> is there any way to stop windows defender? its decided to eat up all of my disk bandwidth
06:50 <@JollyRgrs> stop having viruses
06:51 < matty_r> get more bandwidth
06:51 <@JollyRgrs> i dunno, you should be able to disable defender pretty normally
06:51 <@JollyRgrs> there's no "maigic trick" to disabling it
06:51 <@JollyRgrs> maigic.... magic... whatever
06:51 <@JollyRgrs> i'm going to bed
06:51 < matty_r> going to maigic
06:51 < vader-> any of you have a cpap machine?
06:52 <@JollyRgrs> yes
06:52 <@JollyRgrs> and i don't use it and i'm a bad boy and i'm going to die in my sleep one day :(
06:52 < vader-> does it actually help?
06:53 <@JollyRgrs> my sinuses are jacked, so i breath through my mouth... so i ahve to have a full face one... which sucks... and then when my nose gets all runny/crusty it is just extra PITA
06:53 <@JollyRgrs> vader-: i'll put it this way... when i used to work for geek squad, there was a guy in geek squad who died (young, late 20s, early 30s) b/c he stopped breathing at night
06:53 <@JollyRgrs> if your doc says you need it... YOU NEED TO USE IT
06:53 < BytesAndCoffee> vader-: im supposed to use one, i was using a trial unit, but ended up returning it recently because it was just sitting on my bedside
06:53 <@Nostalg14c> JollyRgrs: was he 300lbs?
06:53 <@JollyRgrs> that being said... i'm horrible at it and challenge death every night
06:54 < BytesAndCoffee> every mask i used either leaked, or made some part of my nose sore
06:54 <@JollyRgrs> Nostalg14c: not quite, proba bout 250? but also tall
06:54 <@Nostalg14c> ye, same shit
06:54 <@Nostalg14c> tall is no excuse.
06:54 <@JollyRgrs> BytesAndCoffee: they have newer ones now
06:54 <@JollyRgrs> Nostalg14c: uh... tall means that weight is different
06:54 < matty_r> probably the best way to go if you're going to go though
06:54 < matty_r> ha ha
06:54 < vader-> i was thinking about buying one off amazon
06:54 < vader-> i got a script for a sleep study
06:54 <@JollyRgrs> you can be 7'1" and 300 lbs and be fairly skinny (or at least fit)
06:54 < BytesAndCoffee> JollyRgrs: philips dreamwear was promising
06:54 < vader-> but my insurance is a pia to get an appointment and shit
06:54 < BytesAndCoffee> so fucking promising
06:54 <@JollyRgrs> vader-: you can't just go buy one
06:54 <@JollyRgrs> they need to determine what your needs are from the sleep study
06:55 < vader-> https://www.amazon.com/DreamStation-Auto-Machine-Heated-Humidifie/dp/B07DGTBDVV/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1528951752&sr=8-8&keywords=cpap+machine
06:55 < BytesAndCoffee> JollyRgrs: i mean, there /are/ autosensing machines
06:55 < BytesAndCoffee> thats what mine was on first
06:55 <@JollyRgrs> yeah
06:55 <@JollyRgrs> but doc will most likely want to log the stats and see how it is working
06:55 <@JollyRgrs> also, vader-, insurance will cover some/most of it
06:56 < BytesAndCoffee> they never actually used my sleep study AHI to dial-in my in-home trial unit
06:56 < vader-> i know but i tried to get a sleep study scheduled and it was a pia
06:56 <@JollyRgrs> but when you do it that way, you'll have to make sure you use it or they'll charge you full price
06:56 < vader-> i just rather try it for 30 days, if it doesn't help/work then ill return it to amazon hehe
06:56 <@JollyRgrs> tbh... sleep study i slept the best i had in a while... prob b/c they kept the room nice and cold
06:56 <@JollyRgrs> vader-: how do you know if it helps?
06:56 < vader-> if i don't feel like shit the next day
06:56 < vader-> hehe
06:56 < vader-> and tired
06:56 <@JollyRgrs> depending on your wife to tell you "no, i didn't have to punch you to kick-start you breathing again"?
06:56 < BytesAndCoffee> JollyRgrs: i had the weirdest dream at the end of my sleep study
06:56 < vader-> im usually punching her
06:57 < vader-> she is snoring really bad
06:57 < BytesAndCoffee> my mom came in the room saying i have to go back to sleep, i haven't been asleep long enough
06:57 < BytesAndCoffee> and as she said that, the sleep tech came in, turned on the light, and woke me up
06:58 <@JollyRgrs> vader-: just think... you can sleep study and know that some rando is staring at you through a computer monitor all hours of teh night while you sleep! #notcreepyatall #hopesheshot #whatifsheisahe
06:58 < matty_r>  #glitchinthematrix
06:58 < BytesAndCoffee> but yeah
06:59 < BytesAndCoffee> tried to use my cpap
06:59 < BytesAndCoffee> some nights it helped
06:59 < BytesAndCoffee> others...just made it harder to sleep
06:59 < BytesAndCoffee> and ramp is fucking useless
07:00 < BytesAndCoffee> its supposed to help prevent you from feeling like you're being suffocated, but it did the exact opposite for me
07:00 <@JollyRgrs> when i try to sudo reboot, or sudo shutdown -r now... it jsut sits there
07:00 <@JollyRgrs> goes to next line, but never actually reboots
07:01 <@JollyRgrs> if i do it w/o sudo, it gives me the warnings that i'm not auth for it...
07:01 < BytesAndCoffee> JollyRgrs: its revolting
07:01 < vader-> ya i need something
07:01 < matty_r> do it from su ?
07:01 < vader-> not sleeping well
07:01 <@JollyRgrs> matty_r: that was my next step to take
07:01 < BytesAndCoffee> singularity
07:01 <@JollyRgrs> but anyone seen that before?
07:01 < matty_r> Yea I havet
07:01 < matty_r> have*
07:01 <@JollyRgrs> what causes it?
07:01 < BytesAndCoffee> JollyRgrs: degauss the entire thing, your computer is the seed of the singularity
07:02 < vader-> man i accepted a job today and so feeling weird about it
07:02 < matty_r> I feel like it was either waiting for something to finish, or it was getting stopped/cancelled
07:02 < matty_r> I can't recall
07:02 < BytesAndCoffee> vader-: what position?
07:02 < vader-> can't tell if it's just being nervous, or buyers remorse...
07:02 <@JollyRgrs> huh....
07:02 <@JollyRgrs> authentication failure for su....
07:02 <@JollyRgrs> but i know my root pw hasn't changed
07:02 < BytesAndCoffee> vader-: more like seller's remorse
07:03 < vader-> hehe
07:03 < vader-> consultant
07:03 < BytesAndCoffee> you sold your soul to the devil
07:03 < BytesAndCoffee> oh, you only rented it
07:03 < BytesAndCoffee> good idea
07:03 < matty_r> what distro JollyRgrs ?
07:04 <@JollyRgrs> oh wait....
07:04 <@JollyRgrs> yeah
07:04 <@JollyRgrs> this is ubuntu, not debian
07:04 < matty_r> try sudo -i
07:04 <@JollyRgrs> DOI!
07:04  * BytesAndCoffee wonders if crossroads demons ever have to do rent-to-own with souls
07:04 <@JollyRgrs> matty_r: that worked... got root@box
07:04 <@JollyRgrs> but reboot still doesn't work from that :(
07:05 < matty_r> i was about to say that shouldn't explain why reboot won't work
07:05 < matty_r> wait
07:05 < matty_r> sudo reboot
07:05 <@Nostalg14c> use shutdown -r instead?
07:05 < matty_r> not shutdown -r
07:05 <@JollyRgrs> i'm trying both
07:05 < matty_r> ok ok
07:05 <@JollyRgrs> both don't work
07:05 <@JollyRgrs> both just sit there with blinky cursor on new line until i ctrl+c
07:05 <@Nostalg14c> shutdown -h now
07:06 < matty_r> probably needs reboot
07:06 <@Nostalg14c> systemctl reboot
07:06 <@JollyRgrs> i don't wanna halt it :(
07:06 < matty_r> not on ubuntu
07:06 <@JollyRgrs> Nostalg14c: systemctl reboot didn't do it either
07:06 <@Nostalg14c> yank the fuckn cable
07:06 < matty_r> ubuntu has systemd?
07:06 < BytesAndCoffee> JollyRgrs: physical or vm
07:06 <@JollyRgrs> vm
07:06 < BytesAndCoffee> hard-reboot from the hypervisor?
07:07 <@JollyRgrs> o
07:07 <@JollyRgrs> i'd rather not
07:07 <@JollyRgrs> i just did some apt-get update/upgrades
07:07 < BytesAndCoffee> i mean, its starting to force your hand
07:07 <@Nostalg14c> lol
07:07 <@Nostalg14c> let that blinky shit sit for an hour
07:07 <@Nostalg14c> let it know whos boss
07:07 < BytesAndCoffee> its almost time to pull out the cholorform napkin
07:08 < matty_r> can you send alt-ctrl-del ?
07:08 <@JollyRgrs> matty_r: from ssh?
07:08 < matty_r> yea
07:08 < BytesAndCoffee> matty_r: does that even work in *nix?
07:08 <@JollyRgrs> i mean, i could use virt-manager and try to do that...
07:08 < BytesAndCoffee> i thought that was only on windows
07:08 < matty_r> if you do it heaps it should restart it
07:08 <@JollyRgrs> but if i wanted to hard reboot, i can just do that from KVM host
07:08 < matty_r> I think it's like 3-4 times
07:09 <@JollyRgrs> i'm trying to do this gracefully
07:09 < matty_r> it will
07:09 < matty_r> it detects that you're angry and begins the reboot
07:10 < BytesAndCoffee> matty_r: kinda like magic sysrq?
07:10 < matty_r> no idea what that is. I've just seen it work a few times when I was angry and the system was being dumb
07:11 < BytesAndCoffee> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
07:11 <+layer-eight> * BytesAndCoffee →  Magic SysRq key - Wikipedia
07:11 < matty_r> hopefully it works properly or JollyRgrs is goin to ban me
07:11 < matty_r> ha ha
07:12 <@JollyRgrs> so, i get the console screen from virt-manager
07:12 <@JollyRgrs> ... cursor is blinking on line BELOW login line
07:12 <@JollyRgrs> i can't type
07:12 <@JollyRgrs> but ssh session still works fine
07:12 < matty_r> does it respond to any key presses?
07:13 <@JollyRgrs> wait
07:13 <@JollyRgrs> ctrl+c worked
07:13 <@JollyRgrs> it finished rebooting...
07:13 <@JollyRgrs> wtf
07:13 < matty_r> lol
07:14 <@JollyRgrs> ok, so A) i *think* i was able to reboot gracefully
07:14 < matty_r> are you even logged into the right vm?
07:14 <@JollyRgrs> B).... WTF was it doing?
07:14 <@Nostalg14c> reboot it again
07:14 <@JollyRgrs> matty_r: yeah
07:14 <@Nostalg14c> to be sure
07:14 <@JollyRgrs> name@plex
07:14 < matty_r> oohh plex
07:14 <@JollyRgrs> Nostalg14c: i actually am going to reboot it using sudo reboot after i give plex service a minute to settle
07:14 < matty_r> do you have any network drives?
07:14 <@JollyRgrs> yeah, NFS
07:14 <@JollyRgrs> but that didn't poop out
07:15 < matty_r> ah well
07:15 < matty_r> good times
07:15 <@JollyRgrs> sudo reboot worked
07:15  * JollyRgrs sighs
07:15 <@Nostalg14c> `bofh
07:15 <+layer-eight> BOFH Static buildup
07:15 < matty_r> lol
07:15 <@JollyRgrs> i dunno wtf it was doing locked up on the console's login screen
07:15 <@Nostalg14c> God damn ubuntu static buildup.
07:16 <@JollyRgrs> Nostalg14c: yup, BOFH is pretty much spot on
07:16 < matty_r> depending on how it connects to your console, the session may have been "frozen". Looks like its connected, but its just sitting there trying to restablish a connection
07:17 < matty_r> I've never used virtmanager
07:17 <@JollyRgrs> matty_r: you use kvm/qemu?
07:17 < matty_r> nah
07:18 <@JollyRgrs> it can also be used for xen i think... and lxc (i'm just seeing this now)
07:18 <@JollyRgrs> but mostly it is for kvm/qemu
07:18 < matty_r> I use real VM software
07:18 <@JollyRgrs> https://virt-manager.org/
07:18 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  Virtual Machine Manager Home
07:18 <@JollyRgrs> you mean paid-for software? :P
07:18 < matty_r> lol
07:18 < matty_r> just stirring
07:18 < matty_r> But you're 100% correct.
07:19 < matty_r> I use Esxi + VSphere for everything
07:19 <@JollyRgrs> i'm pretty sure the ppl hitting 6 figures, thrice in their paychecks are using KVM for their hypervisor
07:19 <@JollyRgrs> that being said, i'm a windows guy at work... so this does nothing for me to get $$$... plus, i'm just jr sysadmin when it comes to linuxy things
07:20 < matty_r> I don't touch linux at all for work - bar the few vmware appliances
07:20 <@JollyRgrs> me neither (bar none)
07:20 < DoctorDick> Linux containers are great
07:20 <@JollyRgrs> SCCM/O365 stuff here
07:20 <@JollyRgrs> lol
07:20 <@JollyRgrs> shut up, DICK!
07:20 <@JollyRgrs> :P
07:20 < DoctorDick> I mean Windows containers are great
07:20 <@JollyRgrs> sorry, i can't really go with you on that one
07:20 <@JollyRgrs> you're on your own
07:21 < DoctorDick> Yeah I hate houses too
07:21 < matty_r> I haven't even touched containers yet
07:21 <@JollyRgrs> i've touched one... but it was slimey and i was like "nope"
07:21 < matty_r> ha
07:21 <@JollyRgrs> i'm sure they are nice... i don't have the time or interest to spend on it just yet
07:21 < DoctorDick> I mean you shouldn't touch containers at a sperm bank
07:22 <@JollyRgrs> i setup KVM back when i stayed up until 2-3am most nights and was trying to learn something new to get a better job
07:22 <@JollyRgrs> it also made my homelab a nice environment
07:22 <@JollyRgrs> my next adventure, really... is gonna suck
07:23 <@JollyRgrs> i want to make an android app that connects to a DB where I can store all the details of what i've done for maintenance, etc. on my cars
07:23 <@JollyRgrs> which would also expand to more than just cars
07:23 < matty_r> I was sort of the opposite with my homelab. We use Vmware for everything so I got a server (R710) and installed ESXI on it. went from there
07:23 <@JollyRgrs> i got twinsies r710
07:23 <@JollyRgrs> one is freenas the other is KVM host
07:23 < matty_r> I have an MD1000 connected to it
07:23 < matty_r> lol
07:24 <@JollyRgrs> is that the SCSI one?
07:24 < matty_r> yea
07:24 <@JollyRgrs> i got an MD1000 in my garage
07:24 < matty_r> nice
07:24 < DoctorDick> Send it to me
07:24 <@JollyRgrs> but i don't want to spend that much to get SCSI drives as big as I need
07:24 < matty_r> it's a big ol chunky thing isn't it
07:24 <@JollyRgrs> DoctorDick: i'll sell it to ya
07:24 <@JollyRgrs> heck yeah it is
07:24 < matty_r> yea I bought a bunch of SAS drives off ebay to fill it
07:25 <@JollyRgrs> i have a hueg box of disks... but they are all like 36 or 72 gb... maybe a few are the 136 or whatever that size was
07:25 <@JollyRgrs> matty_r: can you convert to use SATA drives on it? lol
07:25 <@JollyRgrs> if so, maybe there's hope afterall
07:25 < matty_r> yea I think you can, but I need the speed
07:25 < DoctorDick> More powah
07:26 < matty_r> I recently "upgraded" the CPU in the R710 to dual Xeon L5640
07:26 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.dell.com/community/PowerVault/MD1000-with-4tb-or-6tb-sata-disks-and-H800-controller/td-p/4703232
07:26 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  MD1000 with 4tb or 6tb sata disks and H800 controller? - Dell Community
07:26 < DoctorDick> Hey I got those in my R510
07:26 < DoctorDick> Err two
07:26 <@JollyRgrs> hmm
07:27 <@JollyRgrs> matty_r: i'm using L's in mine, too
07:27 <@JollyRgrs> what did you upgrade from?
07:27 < matty_r> x5550s
07:28 <@JollyRgrs> L5630 in mine
07:28 < matty_r> https://imgur.com/wFHxZ4s
07:28 <+layer-eight> * matty_r →  IMGUR Image → Image/png → a few seconds ago → 682x259 → ⚘ 3
07:29 <@JollyRgrs> logical processors 24?
07:29 < matty_r> yes
07:29 <@JollyRgrs> how's that work?
07:29 < matty_r> 6core with HT
07:29 < DoctorDick> 6 cores 12 threads for each CPU
07:29 <@JollyRgrs> ah, that must be the 40 vs the 30 then
07:30 < matty_r> So it's 24 threads
07:30 <@JollyRgrs> mine is only 4 cores
07:30 < DoctorDick> X2
07:30 <@JollyRgrs> i dind't know it was that big of a diff with just the 30-40 change
07:30 < matty_r> I think they cost me like $50 off ebay
07:30 < matty_r> ha ha
07:30 < matty_r> power usage was far batter too
07:30 < matty_r> better*
07:31 < matty_r> but I think thats more because the thermal paste was rock solid when I changed them
07:31 <@JollyRgrs> haha
07:31 <@JollyRgrs> yeah, i wanted the L specifically to not be so hot
07:31 < DoctorDick> I just use peanut butter
07:31 <@JollyRgrs> when i pay the AC bill and the electric bill....
07:32 <@JollyRgrs> dang, i can get a "matched pair" for only 35.99 on ebay
07:32 <@JollyRgrs> or like sub $20 for a single one
07:32 < matty_r> yea, they're super old now
07:33 < matty_r> One of my VMs is a game server too - runs suprisingly well
07:33 <@JollyRgrs> is R710 MB relegated to only 56xx CPUs?
07:33 < togenshi> TIL https://www.java.com/en/download/release_notice.jsp
07:33 <+layer-eight> * togenshi →  Java Future Release Notices
07:34 < matty_r> JollyRgrs: it might be. Why?
07:34 < matty_r> It's been a while since I looked into it
07:34 <@JollyRgrs> matty_r: thinking about if i want to upgrade the boxes on the cheap
07:34 < matty_r> ah
07:34 <@JollyRgrs> getting a newer old CPU might help out
07:34 <@JollyRgrs> i mean, going from 8 cores to 12 wouldn't be a bad upgrade
07:35 < matty_r> just looking at the supported CPUs now
07:35 <@JollyRgrs> but how far can i go?
07:35 <@JollyRgrs> matty_r: the only listing i saw is from when they released it
07:35 < matty_r> https://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pedge/en/server-poweredge-r710-tech-guidebook.pdf
07:35 <+layer-eight> * matty_r →  APPLICATION/PDF Document, 1,575,881 bytes
07:35 <@JollyRgrs> so it doesn't go higher than 56xx
07:35 < matty_r> page 28
07:35 < matty_r> x5680 is the highest it looks like
07:36 < matty_r> 130W .. jesus
07:36 < matty_r> i'll stick with my L5640s I think ha ha
07:36 <@JollyRgrs> so lga1366 goes no higher than 56xx series
07:36 < matty_r> although its a fair jump in speed - i'd rather build a new server with a faster more efficient CPU anyway
07:37 <@JollyRgrs> 5645 is just 2.40 ghz vs your 2.26 but same cores
07:37 <@JollyRgrs> that's the only higher L series
07:37 < matty_r> it isn't listed on the supported CPUs either
07:38 <@JollyRgrs> http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Xeon-L5640-vs-Intel-Xeon-L5630
07:38 <@JollyRgrs> so also 2MB of L2 cache vs 1MB on mine
07:39 <@JollyRgrs> uh... and 32.5w vs mine 48.75?
07:39 < Disconsented> psst use ark https://ark.intel.com/compare/47927,47926
07:39 <+layer-eight> * Disconsented →  Intel® Product Specification Comparison
07:39 < matty_r> Not much of a different, but there are more cores
07:39 <@JollyRgrs> how is yours with 6 cores more power efficient than mine!
07:39 < matty_r> it's not
07:39 < matty_r> wtf
07:39 <@JollyRgrs> oh wait
07:39 <@JollyRgrs> nvm
07:39 < matty_r> ?
07:39 <@JollyRgrs> no, i'm pretty sure i read that right
07:40 <@JollyRgrs> at least according to this bogus website
07:40 < matty_r> youre reading it back to front
07:40 <@JollyRgrs> oh.... it is under reasons to consider the 5630
07:40 < matty_r> yea
07:40 <@JollyRgrs> it looks like an ad
07:40 <@JollyRgrs> so i didn't read that part
07:40 < matty_r> it's that as well
07:40 <@JollyRgrs> just skipped over
07:40 < matty_r> ha ha
07:40 <@JollyRgrs> i was just reading the numbers first was the 40, 2nd was the 30 like up top
07:41 < matty_r> yea, its a stupid format
07:43 < DoctorDick> L5645's are rare as fuck
07:43 <@JollyRgrs> o ther than a slight bump in ghz... they seem pretty much the same
07:43 <@JollyRgrs> 2.26ghz vs 2.4
07:44 <@JollyRgrs> and CPUBoss says that the 45 doesn't support SSE4, but the 40 does... i'm going to assume that the 45 does as well
07:44 < matty_r> lol
07:45 < matty_r> yea, you should use Ark for that sorta stuff
07:46 < matty_r> I want to build a server with a Supermicro mobo
07:47 < matty_r> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/processors/xeon/e3-processors/e3-1275-v6.html
07:47 < matty_r> with one of those bad boys
07:47 <+layer-eight> * matty_r →  Intel® Xeon® Processor E3-1275 v6
07:47 <@JollyRgrs> i was just using cpuboss b/c it came up first on google and i just wanted a quick compare :P
07:47 < matty_r> https://www.cpubenchmark.net/
07:48 <+layer-eight> * matty_r →  PassMark Software - CPU Benchmark Charts
07:48 < matty_r> try that too
07:48 < Disconsented> nooooooo
07:48 < Disconsented> *benchmark (including user), *boss and gamedebate are all total crap
07:49 <@JollyRgrs> look, i just wanted to see l2 cache, ghz and cores
07:49 <@JollyRgrs> i don't care about their benchmarks in what they say
07:49 < Disconsented> GHz isnt very useful without IPC
07:49 < matty_r> fuck you JollyRgrs you will read it and love it alright
07:49 <@JollyRgrs> Disconsented: wehn comparing two L56xx processors... it isn't a bad thing to compare
07:49 <@JollyRgrs> :P
07:49 < matty_r> lol
07:50 < matty_r> kids these days I tell ya
07:50 <+A-KO> howdy
07:50 <@JollyRgrs> overall, ever since AMD came in with those athlons, i've not really cared much about Ghz numbers b/c i don't even know what they mean
07:50 <@JollyRgrs> A-KO: hi... pls take over the chan for me, i'm going to bed
07:50 <@JollyRgrs> kthxbai
07:50 <+A-KO> haha
07:50 <+A-KO> I' mabout to head to bed myself
07:50 <+A-KO> but yeah
07:51 <+A-KO> 23andme sure is interesting
07:51 <+A-KO> I'm 11% Jew
07:51 <@JollyRgrs> dna thingy, right?
07:51 <+A-KO> yeah
07:51 <+A-KO> I'm 100% European
07:51 <@JollyRgrs> so now you can tell jew jokes 11% of the time?
07:51 < vader-> you trusted throwing your DNA into the government?
07:51 <+A-KO> yes?
07:51 <+A-KO> You have no idea how little I give a fuck about what the government has on me
07:51 <@JollyRgrs> vader-: he's already put a lot of his dna into the gov't
07:51 <+A-KO> I literally grew up 15 minutes from the NSA
07:51 <+A-KO> lol
07:51 <@JollyRgrs> if you know what i mean!
07:52  * JollyRgrs winks twice and nudges twice
07:52 <+A-KO> Friends, girlfriends, cousins, all worked there
07:52 <@JollyRgrs> A-KO: so they were all old men?
07:52 <@JollyRgrs> wait... that's FBI, not NSA
07:52 <@JollyRgrs> my bad
07:52 <@JollyRgrs> carry on
07:52 <+A-KO> both the US and Canada have my fingerprints on file, too
07:52 <+A-KO> so Canada's got access to my shit also
07:52 <@JollyRgrs> stool sample, too?
07:52 <@JollyRgrs> dang, that's hard core
07:52 <+A-KO> probably
07:53 <+A-KO> like I really, really, really don't care about the government having my DNA and shit.
07:53 <@JollyRgrs> me2!
07:53 < matty_r> actual shit
07:53 <@JollyRgrs> lol
07:53 <+A-KO> if they want it, sure, why not
07:53 <+A-KO> 23andme is great
07:53 <@JollyRgrs> goodnight, turds
07:53 < matty_r> peace
07:53 <+A-KO> I found a distant relative and I'm all like "holy fuck how the hell did this happen?"
07:53 <+A-KO> So this distant cousin of mine is 95% Ashkenazi Jew, I'm 11%. Somewhere along the lines one of my relatives a few generations back was like "fuck this I'm going outside the fam, fam."
07:54 <+A-KO> and now I've got so many questions!
07:56 <+A-KO> brb
07:58 < ned0> anybody familiar with this pc? https://images.craigslist.org/00Q0Q_a6c7rJCwug2_1200x900.jpg
07:58 <+layer-eight> * ned0 →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 89,718 bytes
08:04 <+NinjaStyle> Some kinda older thinkcentre
08:16 <@Nostalg14c> helo is it friyay yet
08:17 < ned0> i was curious how old, the guy listed it without any specs at all
08:46 < xe0n> its friyay here :)
08:46 < xe0n> pub holiday tomorrow
08:46 < xe0n> lol
08:56 < jay-ros> what uppppp
08:56 < jay-ros> Add-Type –AssemblyName System.Speech; (New-Object System.Speech.Synthesis.SpeechSynthesizer).Speak('what up peoples')
08:56 < jay-ros> (powershell)
09:17 < Trapdoor> Nice, coworker went beyond my back to get support from our msp to do support on our linux cluster
09:18 < Trapdoor> a: the MSP doesn't do linux, b: msp called it an "IBM cluster", it is Dell, c: msp asked if he should just order an "ssd sata disk", it takes SAS drives
09:18 < Trapdoor> not to mention the whole purpose of an SSD is to not have a fucking disk in it
09:18 < Trapdoor> are you in here john?
09:18 < Trapdoor> if you are, don't touch the cluster
09:19 < xe0n> fuck you john
09:19 < Trapdoor> yea fuck you
09:20 < Trapdoor> that's the guy that said he set up a /56 scope for me
09:21 < jay-ros> fucking john
09:21 < Merriick> Have you considered a 240v to ethernet adapter
09:21 < jay-ros> seriously
09:22 < jay-ros> high power over ethernet?
09:22 < Trapdoor> lol
09:22 < Trapdoor> Maybe John only wants to order the drive for me
09:22 < jay-ros> See if Tim's there, he's usually a little better
09:22 < Merriick> get him to test the humidty response of such an adapter
09:22 < Trapdoor> by licking it?
09:23 < Merriick> i was going to suggest sucking on it but that could work
09:23 < jay-ros> xe0n - Add-Type –AssemblyName System.Speech; (New-Object System.Speech.Synthesis.SpeechSynthesizer).Speak('RRURURURURURU')
09:23 < Merriick> i a believe i am just vindictive
09:23 < Merriick> we didnt have this conversation
09:23 < jay-ros> nircmd.exe - stick on remote user c:\win\sys32\ folder, psexec powershell -command ">>>"
09:24 < Trapdoor> I hate your nick xe0n
09:24 < Trapdoor> where'd you even get it from?
09:24 < jay-ros> Trapdoor - why? it's a perfectly fine nickname
09:24 < jay-ros> don't listen to him xe0n
09:24 < Trapdoor> Xe0n was my ex jay-ros
09:24 < jay-ros> you dated someone named xe0n?
09:24 < Trapdoor> that was their irc nick yea
09:25 < jay-ros> Was his name Benjamin?
09:25 < Trapdoor> nah, zach
09:26 < jay-ros> fair enough
09:26 < Trapdoor> rip zach
09:27 < jay-ros> Righto. I'm out. Peace.'
09:27 < Trapdoor> zach's not dead, he just cut off his balls and she goes by Robin now
09:33 <+ihre> o_0
09:35 < Popzi> Hm, I've recently changed a machines computer name, and for some stupid reason a piece of software was using the $oldname as a path to some local DB files and I cannot find a way to change them from $oldname to $newname, is there a way in windows to redirect any $oldname/paths to $newname/paths ?
09:37 < nohusuro> DNS
09:37 < nohusuro> or modify the hosts file
09:37 < nohusuro> 127.0.0.1 $oldname
09:38 < Popzi> I'm talking a local standard, basic windows 10 pro user type situation, it's just a laptop we have some stuff shoved onto, example_machine/some/file to new_machine/some/file , I'll try the hosts file nohusuro thanks!
09:58 < Popzi> nohusuro: yeah nah that didn't seem to do the trick :( this software is stupid for using a machine name as a path
09:59 < nohusuro> Popzi: did you test your change?
09:59 < nohusuro> by pinging the hostname from the command line?
09:59 < nohusuro> what software is it?
09:59 < nohusuro> why can't it be changed to the new path?
10:00 < nohusuro> machine name is actually the recommended path to use
10:01 < Popzi> nohusuro: pinging $oldname on the pc its self gets a response, the software is SATEON and there's barely any documentation on anything, it's all ASP/ISS based, and why would you use a machine name instead of something like 127.0.0.1 / 0.0.0.0 / localhost etc that's doesn't change?
10:01 < nohusuro> what if the service wasn't running on localhost?
10:02 < nohusuro> also, ping gets what response?
10:02 < nohusuro> 127.0.0.1?
10:02 < Popzi> nohusuro: checked, all running, gets a reply from 127.0.0.1 yep
10:02 < nohusuro> what ip address is the smb service listening on?
10:02 < nohusuro> it should be listening on all interfaces 0.0.0.0
10:03 < Popzi> nohusuro: no idea, didn't even realize it needed smb, where do I check? (I work with linux)
10:03 < nohusuro> if it's ASP / IIS based, check the web.config file
10:03 < nohusuro> might have a setting in there
10:03 < nohusuro> netstat -ano | findstr :135
10:03 < nohusuro> netstat -ano | findstr :445
10:03 < nohusuro> should be listening in 0.0.0.0
10:04 < Popzi> nohusuro: yup, sure is
10:04 < Popzi> nohusuro: I guess the web.config files can be accessed from the ISS manager gui merbob?
10:07 < Popzi> nohusuro: er, https://i.imgur.com/cGz47L1.png I guess, there's loads of bits to it
10:07 <+layer-eight> * Popzi →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 11,423 bytes
10:14 < Popzi> https://i.imgur.com/DnAgnBB.png dunno if this helps, I still don't get why you'd use machinenames as 'hard coded' paths though, it's 10x more likely to break and shit on everything as it has done? :\
10:14 <+layer-eight> * Popzi →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 65,261 bytes
10:25 < plop> morning.-
11:03 < jumi> morning
11:06 < iTeV> ola .O/
11:40 <+ihre> chrome should have a shortcut for opening a new tab in front of all the others ><
12:38 < nohusuro> Popzi: web.config is in the directory where the website is hosted
12:38 < nohusuro> you can view it with notepad
12:40 <+ihre> heh, https://github.com/tsenart/vegeta
12:40 <+layer-eight> * ihre →  GitHub → tsenart → vegeta → HTTP load testing tool and library. It's over 9000! → @ ~ 2 days ago → Go → ✡ 8,053 → Forks: 504 → ☹ 26
12:49 < Popzi> nohusuro: yeah, it looks correct, seems to be an issue with the SQLServer (It keeps throwing exceptions about it) so I dunno, iis/sqlserver/asp.net seems like a horrible stack but thanks for helping! :)
13:19 < enix> WHAT IS UP PENDEJOS
13:19 < enix> ihre: you party animal what's shaking
13:21 < enix> man the latency on my 4g connection is horrible
13:34 < Tzunamii> Greetingsd
13:38 < gavit> would find /maildir -type f -exec grep -l "Mail delivery failed" {} \; | xargs rm delete mails with mail delivery failed?
13:38 < gavit> I think I am missing something
13:43 < Tzunamii> find /maildir -type f -exec grep -iq "content" {} \; -delete
13:49 < FenJai> I would recommend moving those emails to somewhere else before straight up deleting them
14:20 < asimon> Alright, making the switch to 1password from keepass
14:20 < asimon> lets see how this goes
14:22 < FenJai> Why the move asimon ?
14:24 < asimon> It was just getting inconvenient to manage three keepass vaults (admin, work, personal)
14:25 < FenJai> Is 1password meant to be better ?
14:25 < asimon> Plus it was tough to bring my personal one everywhere and also use the yubikey 2fa, and it was a pain to get passwords onto my phone
14:25 < asimon> I don't know if its any better security wise, but it definitely seems more device and location flexible
14:26 < Tzunamii> No need to bring it anywhere. Just use a cloud drive or self-host it with SyncThing
14:26 < asimon> I looked into doing that briefly, but it seemed like way more work than I was willing to put in for setup
14:27 < Tzunamii> SyncThing takes like 2 mins to set up, but to each his own
14:28 < Tzunamii> I'd rather use that than using a USB stick that can get infected somewhere and then you take that shit home
14:28 < asimon> That was definitely another worry
14:28 < jaelae> every once in awhile i have the most unhealthy breakfast option
14:29 < jaelae> and it brings me back to my IT beginnings
14:30 < Tzunamii> asimon: Have a look at mega.nz. 50GB free and decent security. Also has cellphone apps, if you need one
14:31 < asimon> Tzunamii: Looks nice, thanks for the pointer
14:31 < Tzunamii> Any time
14:31 < asimon> 50GB free storage almost seems too good to be true though
14:32 < asimon> Do they really make enough off people who need more cloud storage than that?
14:32 < SynMonger> there's bandwidth limits and it's a bit tight on the free tier
14:32 < asimon> gotcha
14:32 < SynMonger> for small files it's plenty
14:33 < Tzunamii> That said, a Keepass db file is a few KB at most
14:37 < Nightcinder> file explorer keeps freezing up
14:42 < Jekotia> Anyone have experience with Silverlight on Linux? Curious if it's worth the time to try. A manager needs it for Dayforce HCM, and it's ropyally fucked for no discernible reason on their Windows 10 workstation... Considering a VM since they NEED it for ONE site, as a temp measure
14:45 <@Code_Man65> Never had it work Jekotia
14:49 < Jekotia> Also, any distros anyone would recommend for "I need a single application to run" ? Been using CentOS in a VM for a docker tutorial and god it runs poorly, makes me suspect that it's a bit too much on the "fat" side of things
14:50 < Jekotia> Oh NVM, I forgot Puppy is a thing
14:50 < Jekotia> Ubuntu compatability & light as fuck. Lets start there!
14:51 < SynMonger> damn small linux is another, but it can be too small sometimes
14:51 < Sousapro> Jekotia: going to ++ Code_Man65 on Linux silverlight
14:51 < Jekotia> Yea, I'm worried if I try too slim it wont like Silverlight much, which I already have my doubts about
14:52 < Jekotia> Honestly, the ONLY reason I'm even trying is because MS offers Linux packages
14:52 < Sousapro> Jekotia: before going through all of this work, you've tried replacing/reimaging the windows 10 workstation, having them use IE11 and putting the website into trusted sites right?
14:54 < Jekotia> Sousapro: Reimaging would be an even slower and more painful process. They're administrative and have a lot of software setup by 3rd parties to manage speciality systems that I generally don't have the opportunity to touch (like our IP phone stack). They're using IE11, I used Revo to purge Silverlight and reinstall it. I'll try that trusted site thing. I didn't know that was a thing.
14:54 < Sousapro> I haven't had any compatibility issues with windows 10 and websites if you do the same song and dance you had to do with windows 7
14:55 < FenJai> Jekotia, if you need a temp working windows VM you can download one from MS thats active for 30 days
14:56 < FenJai> https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/vms/
14:56 < Sousapro> Jekotia: that will likely fix it. I would just put the domain (eg google.com instead of https://www.google.com) because if they are dumb enough to still be using silverlight, they're dumb enough to use mixed mode on their secure website
14:56 <+layer-eight> * Sousapro →  Google
14:58 < FenJai> Scratch that Jekotia. Its valid for 90 days
14:58 < jaelae> i had a 7 node cluster in test. but the hardware is old for 4 of the 7. so i am going to pull four old servers and add 2 new servers (vmware) because the new ones are double memory. the issue is
14:58 < jaelae> the numbering will be off
14:58 < jaelae> and will it bother me
15:00 < khelpw> Anybody have any info about Windows 10 pro machines joined to a domain downloading 1803 despite declining the update in WSUS?
15:01 < khelpw> Other than "Yeah, that's a thing"
15:01 <+giant_it_burrit> are they allowed to mixed update
15:01 <+giant_it_burrit> aka grab from net
15:01 < khelpw> Nope
15:08 < khelpw> Actually, maybe - the people it happened to might have that option
15:11 < Jekotia> Sousapro: Trusted sites worked. If you happen to live in/around Toronto, I'll buy you a beer some time :) Saved me a lot of hassle
15:19 < Jekotia> The one thing I hate about this line of work is the need for secrecy. I love this company. It's a small/medium business that's managed to retain the itty-bitty-family-owned-and-operated values it began with. AND I CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT ;-;
15:20 < DomLS3> Jekotia: But you're talking about it now
15:20  * DomLS3 calls yuor boss
15:20 < Jekotia> Also, I think yesterday was secretly Take Your Cat to Work Day
15:20 < Jekotia> Message from my boss yesterday: “Out World where the problem now so we'll get to it we can thanks Josh”
15:20 < deww> did you explode
15:21 < Jekotia> The only logical explanation is an asshole was playing with his backspace key
15:21 < deww> "omg kitties!" *bewm*
15:21 < deww> Jekotia: what does that mean? is Out World a product?
15:22 < Jekotia> deww: exactly
15:22 < Jekotia> Makes no sense
15:23 < Jekotia> A cat must have been playing with his backspace key
15:24 < Nightcinder> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/06/backdoored-images-downloaded-5-million-times-finally-removed-from-docker-hub/
15:24 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  Backdoored images downloaded 5 million times finally removed from Docker Hub | Ars Technica
15:26 < Sousapro> Jekotia: glad to hear it :)
15:33 < Hatter> oh good morning
15:33 < _Straffer> So, on OWA. If I thumbs-up an email chain, what does everyone see?
15:34 < _Straffer> Because I could have accidentally just caused an email storm if everyone gets an alert on this giant email chain
15:34 < _Straffer> _Straffer likes this
15:34 < _Straffer> _Straffer likes this
15:34 < _Straffer> _Straffer likes this
15:35 < abakedapplepie> thats a thing?
15:35 < abakedapplepie> wew
15:35 < abakedapplepie> email is not social media holy fuck
15:36 < deww> yes it is
15:37 < _Straffer> I had no idea until I clicked it accidentally
15:40 < DomLS3> ChanServ sets mode +hoe ravioli
15:41 <@ravioli> ackshewully freenode doesn't have +h and i'm already +e
15:41  * ravioli adjusts glasses and cocks trilby slightly
15:41 < DomLS3> the h is imaginary but still applies
15:54 <+TuxedoJack> Hmm. I have a nice new Surface Book 2 from a client
15:54 <+TuxedoJack> Should I disassemble it for the NVMe SSD?
15:54 <+TuxedoJack> And put in a SATA SSD of the same size?
16:01 <+ihre> nO
16:01 <+ihre> No
16:07 < technonerd> Can you even do that?
16:07 < rhqq> morning
16:07 < technonerd> Surface 4/5 require a heat gun
16:07 < technonerd> Piles of shit
16:08 < rhqq> ^^
16:08 < technonerd> They just recently added bios support for setting time
16:08 <+TuxedoJack> technonerd: it's a Samsung PM961, I'd be better off going to Fry's
16:08 < technonerd> Another bios update to support usb 3 devices
16:15 < Sousapro> TuxedoJack: I think you're better off using it as-is
16:16 < Sousapro> also MDT image and capture is a dumpster fire
16:16 < Sousapro> 1709 must have broken it
16:16 < Sousapro> it worked one time
16:16 < Sousapro> lol
16:17 < officerrando> any exchange 2010/13 pros up in this piece?
16:18 <@Code_Man65> What's your question officerrando?
16:18 < officerrando> having trouble with OABs. migrating from 2010 to 2013. all mailboxes are on the 2013 server. any harm in wiping all OABs and creating a fresh one on 2013?
16:19 < officerrando> looks like an OAB was created, but never assigned to the new server.
16:19 <@Code_Man65> Part of your steps should be migrating OAB generation to the new exchange environment
16:19 < officerrando> running Get-MailboxDatabase | Format-Table Name, Server, OfflineAddressBook -Auto only shows the new server and DB, and no OAB assigned. old server isn't listed.
16:20 < officerrando> old server is sbs 2011/exch 2010, if it matters
16:20 <@Code_Man65> I'd tell Exchange 2013 to start generating the OAB
16:20 <@Code_Man65> And assign it
16:21 < officerrando> virtual directories in ecp shows and OAB folder on the 2013 box
16:22 < officerrando> looks like the arbitration mailbox does exist.
16:22 < officerrando> i'm basically picking up where someone else left off, and I don't know what they did/didn't do.
16:34 < officerrando> OK. i just assigned that new OAB to the 2013 db via the ecp. I think we're good to go.
16:34 < officerrando> it may force a new download to all the clients, but it's only like 20 people. no bigggie. thx for your help!
16:36 <@Code_Man65> officerrando:  They download a new OAB everyday anyway
16:40 < grumplestiltzkin> why in the wide world of fuck is there a 'thumbs up' status for an email?
16:42 <@Code_Man65> So you can fonzie an e-mail, duh
16:43 < AnimalFarmPig> is this an outlook/exchange thing? Can the person who sent me an email see that I've thumbs upped it?
16:43 < AnimalFarmPig> I could see that being useful as a way to acknowledge receipt and understanding without having to write a reply
16:55 < felda> aww yeah boy
16:55 < felda> got free 500GB HDDs from work
16:55 < felda> now have 8 x 500GB HDDs crammed into my home PC lol
16:55 < felda> all this free space to store my erotic Minecraft screenshots
16:56 < Hatter> url
16:57 < felda> Hatter this is all homemade  ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
16:58 < Hatter> felda.io/Minecraft_Erotica
17:00 < jaelae> i have a coworker that is just odd
17:00 < Hatter> go on
17:00 < jaelae> normally i do a lot of work after hours and most patching is after hours. he submitted a ticket to patch 3 domain controllers
17:00 < jaelae> during the day
17:00 < Hatter> I was hoping for something more odd
17:02 < jaelae> well
17:02 < jaelae> i have another one for you because as i typed that i got a message from someone
17:02 < jaelae> they are at a customer sites and want to know if the customers server is having performance issues due to ram
17:03 < jaelae> but we do not handle their hardware we are a software vendor. and i have no access
17:03 < jaelae> hmm
17:07 < McDonaldsWiFi> so as an it professional you are bound to see and hear things you shouldn't see or hear
17:07 < McDonaldsWiFi> info, documents, etc
17:07 < McDonaldsWiFi> discuss
17:08 <@killdash9> VPN service recommendations so I can watch the line stream of Le Mans this weekend. Go.
17:08 <@killdash9> s/line/live
17:08 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
17:08 <+layer-eight> [SED killdash9] VPN service recommendations so I can watch the live stream of Le Mans this weekend. Go.
17:08 <@killdash9> fucking Velocity Channel has it geoblocked in the US
17:09 < McDonaldsWiFi> sometimes I like to sleep under my desk
17:09 <@killdash9> I use the empty offices across the hall for that
17:10 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
17:13 < officerrando> Code_Man65: do you know if i *must* move exch 2010 public folders over to 2013? assuming there's no user data in them?
17:15 < AnimalFarmPig> killdash9: scaleway, deploy an OpenVPN appliance
17:15 < AnimalFarmPig> https://www.scaleway.com/docs/how-to-use-the-openvpn-instant-apps/
17:16 <+layer-eight> * AnimalFarmPig →  Get your VPN server ready to use in one-click with the OpenVPN InstantApp - Scaleway
17:17 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, guess what happened last night with the code upgrade
17:17 < McDonaldsWiFi> you brickedit
17:17 < _Straffer> i'll just go ahead and read this file called confidential as domain admin
17:17 < _Straffer> McDonaldsWiFi: delete the logs
17:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
17:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> what if that file says they are firing you
17:20  * A-KO farts
17:20 <@Code_Man65> officerrando:  To decomm your 2010 environment, yes
17:21 < ekaj> ereerere
17:21 < ekaj> `bofh
17:21 <+layer-eight> BOFH Techtonic stress
17:24 <@Code_Man65> A-KO:  I hope the fart made you feel like you released some pressure
17:24 < Jekotia> McDonaldsWiFi: Does your name factually mean you are using McDonalds WiFi to talk to us? Do you ever go by StarbucksWiFi?
17:24 < officerrando> Code_Man65: do you mean the system level folders? there are 0 user-level folders.
17:24 < Jekotia> Have you ever left the McDonalds, or were you born there?
17:24 < grumplestiltzkin> didn't StarbucksWiFi get bant?
17:24 < ekaj> IDK DID HE
17:25 < dragonfleas> It's not bricked, i couldn't connect to it from VPN for some reason, i couldn't connect through SSH or ASDM, but I think it's because of the way that I tunnel into our network, it's a windows VPN solution and it fucking sucks
17:25 < dragonfleas> I want to upgrade our firewalls and move to anyconnect
17:25 < ekaj> there's a guy here who should be like a management-level position.. was just hired, can't really do anything
17:26 < ekaj> not management-level, technical but kind of manage his coworkers on their little contract
17:26 < ekaj> but he can't do that so they give him basic tasks to do
17:26 < grumplestiltzkin> dragonfleas: its OK to turn on external SSH access for this, or am I reading you wrong?
17:28 < asimon> Fuckin lol
17:28 < dragonfleas> no not external
17:29 < dragonfleas> i'm VPN'ed in
17:29 < dragonfleas> fuck no i'm not turning on external SSH on our firewall
17:29 < asimon> my coworker turned on some weird setting in his browser where Microsoft Sam names every single key that he types
17:29 < asimon> and doesn't know how to turn it off
17:31 < DomLS3> wasn't microsoft sam discontinued after XP?
17:31 < asimon> s/browser/Windows 10
17:31 <+layer-eight> [SED asimon] my coworker turned on some weird setting in his Windows 10 where Microsoft Sam names every single key that he types
17:31 < asimon> And yeah we found out it was microsoft mark instead
17:32 < asimon> Win-Ctrl-Enter is the shortcut he accidentally hit
17:32 < genr8_> David Mark or Zira
17:32 < genr8_> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/22797/windows-10-narrator-tts-voices
17:33 < khelpw> Fun fact, windows + ctrl + C = grayscale mode in windows 10
17:33 < khelpw> for some fucking reason
17:33 < khelpw> somehow the most retarded, tech-unsavvy person in the office managed to turn that on _and_ drop her PC at the same time, so we thought we had just fucked her screen or knocked something loose
17:33 < khelpw> then we plugged it into an external monitor and it did the same thing lol
17:33 < khelpw> no small amount of head scratching ensued.
17:36 < alazare619> uhh windows control c doesnt do grayscale for me
17:36 < khelpw> Color filters are probably disabled.
17:36 < khelpw> I have no clue why they'd be enabled tho
17:37 < genr8_> weird
17:37 < genr8_> it does appear to be Grayscale color filter
17:37 < khelpw> this users PC isn't on the domain
17:37 < nurgle> khelpw: that doesnt work for me?
17:37 < ekaj> tfw a vendor says they can access a piece of equipment in your network that isn't even plugged in
17:37 < ekaj> wutchu talkin bout
17:37 < nurgle> neet
17:37 < DomLS3> alt+F4 does it for me in Windows 10
17:37 < nurgle> ekaj: are they trying to sell you virus cleaning
17:37 < ekaj> no lol
17:37 < khelpw> Like I said, it'll only do it if color filters are enabled.
17:37 < nurgle> ekaj: did they open up cmd and run tree
17:37 < alazare619> oh shit
17:37 < dragonfleas> So I applied a new IP address to our terminal servers, and for some reason DNS takes fucking FOREVER to update
17:37 < ekaj> I think the guy is just really poor at communication
17:37 < alazare619> grayscale inverted is beastmode
17:38 < dragonfleas> the computers kept their cache and i had to just manually clear the DNS cache from all their workstations with psexec
17:38 < nurgle> dragonfleas: log onto your dns server and do a ipconfig /flushdns
17:38 < dragonfleas> wait
17:38 < nurgle> works everytime
17:38 < nurgle> psexec
17:38 < dragonfleas> nurgle, will that work for the whole environment?
17:38 < nurgle> what is this 2008
17:38 < scwizard> this is weird
17:38 < scwizard> 169.254.169.254 is a magical IP that knows info about your ec2 instance
17:39 < scwizard> curl http://169.254.169.254/latest/meta-data/ami-id && echo ""
17:39 < alazare619> o.O
17:40 < scwizard> https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/ec2-instance-metadata.html
17:40 <+layer-eight> * scwizard →  Instance Metadata and User Data - Amazon Elastic Compute Cloud
17:40 < scwizard> that IP is even hard coded into their docs
17:40 < genr8_> it does appear magical
17:40 < genr8_> good to know
17:42 < dragonfleas> Is there something that is the equivalent of scheduled tasks on a linux server?
17:42 < nurgle> cron
17:42 < dragonfleas> I'm needing to set nightly reboots of this linux server because there's a cert problem that occurs and breaks our login (devs of this app are gone and they were shit)
17:43 < dragonfleas> cron?
17:43 < nurgle> what cert problem?
17:43 < nurgle> why not fix that instead of rebooting
17:44 < alazare619> dragonfleas:  crontab just type crontab -e
17:44 < dragonfleas> kk
17:44 < nurgle> fuck rebooting nightly 11:44am  up 928 day(s), 16:52,  1 user,  load average: 0.11, 0.08, 0.08
17:44 < nurgle> it may not look like it. but that is peak unix performance
17:44 < dragonfleas> nurgle, um, i'm not a developer, and this app is fucked and breaks all the time
17:45 < nurgle> in house app?
17:45 < dragonfleas> yep
17:45 < nurgle> watitdo
17:45 < dragonfleas> well kinda
17:45 < dragonfleas> it's our old EHR system, we use it for historical documents
17:45 < dragonfleas> but
17:45 < dragonfleas> it's terrible
17:45 < nurgle> why does it break logins
17:45 < nurgle> or is it logins to that service?
17:45 < nurgle> app*
17:46 < dragonfleas> also, it wasn't inhouse, it was developed specifically for us by a 3rd party dev company, they confirmed that it was their problem and they were working on it
17:46 < dragonfleas> and then the company shut down
17:46 < dragonfleas> liquidated all of it's assets
17:46 < dragonfleas> and we sued them
17:46 < scwizard> dragonfleas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cron
17:47 <+layer-eight> * scwizard →  Cron - Wikipedia
17:47 < namol> sweet, so the login page has a cert error?
17:47 < dragonfleas> basically it's an app we no longer have support for because the company whom supported it shut down
17:47 < nurgle> ok
17:47 < genr8_> you want the process to die , so cron can detect it and restart it
17:47 < nurgle> yeah no reason to do a reboot if you can just restart the proc
17:47 < genr8_> if it just hangs in the open state, that does you no good. and you would have to fix that some other way
17:47 < dragonfleas> namol, no, it's hard to explain, I was told it was a cert problem from my boss, but he's not super technical, it doesn't seem like that is the case because we aren't even using SSL for it
17:47 < namol> anything in the logs?
17:48 < nurgle> stay at work til it happens
17:48 < dragonfleas> namol, don't know how to check linux logs
17:48 < nurgle> then post results in irc
17:48 < nurgle> what!
17:48 < genr8_> hah
17:48 < dragonfleas> I have no linux experience boys
17:48 < alazare619> dragonfleas: why would you guys use an a ehr developed specifically for you when tons of great solutions exist out there
17:48 < genr8_> babbys first linux system
17:48 < namol> poor bastard
17:48 < alazare619> that makes 0 sense
17:48 < nurgle> genr8_: trully sorry for your lots
17:48 < dragonfleas> alazare619, ask my boss that, it happened before i was here
17:48 < namol> are you guys in the manufacturing arena?
17:48 < dragonfleas> no
17:48 < nurgle> dragonfleas: but it's your fault now stupid
17:48 < namol> cause that sounds like something from my manufacturing days
17:48 < nurgle> gah
17:48 < scwizard> dragonfleas: well good thing you have this channel, because some people here def have linux experience
17:48 < namol> either that or healthcare...
17:49 < nurgle> whats the app called
17:49 < dragonfleas> this channel has literally saved my job
17:49 < dragonfleas> before
17:49 < nurgle> with the exchange thing?
17:49 < genr8_> thats not good lol
17:49 < dragonfleas> yeah the exchange thing was the big one
17:49 < Hatter> dragonfleas: you're welcome
17:49 < nurgle> Hatter: dont take cedit for other peoples work
17:49 < dragonfleas> I now have mega double triple layered spicy backups running 3 times a day
17:49 < dragonfleas> with my backups being backed up
17:49 < namol> dragonfleas: did you need to setup an exchange server in new york for a VIP? lol
17:49 < dragonfleas> still don't have DR though
17:50 < nurgle> namol: nah, his drives fileld up
17:50 < dragonfleas> ^
17:50 < ekaj> tfw when you have to do something, but it requires something else, which requires something else that is broken
17:50 < snarkadmin> HONK
17:50 < nurgle> dragonfleas: anyway
17:50 < nurgle> whats the app called
17:50 < namol> oh, that's no biggie
17:50 < namol> what's this turd of an ehr called
17:50 < nurgle> also do you have sudo rights/root
17:51 < alazare619> so apparently iwndows 10 nightlight cna work like a simpler version of flux
17:51 < snarkadmin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6pNoYZgWBs <- HONK
17:51 <+layer-eight> * snarkadmin →  YouTube → ICQ Horn Startup Sound → ⚘ 75,460 ↑ 59 ↓ 11 ✍ 7
17:51 < namol> does it just run as a website?
17:51 < nurgle> namol: it could be some shitty java thing
17:51 < namol> nurgle: or a shitty php thing
17:51 < namol> or even better, websphere!
17:52 < dragonfleas> we still have it in circular logging mode, but I'm backing up exchange now
17:52 < dragonfleas> until we move to O365
17:52  * nurgle snaps
17:52 < nurgle> pay attention
17:52 < dragonfleas> nurgle, i'm not interested in fixing man, to be honest, I have a million more important production things to worry about
17:52 < dragonfleas> this is a historical app that works as long as it's rebooted
17:52 < namol> dragonfleas: you're kinda new as a sysadmin aren't you?
17:53 < dragonfleas> so i don't give a fuck, and we're retiring it completely jan 1st 2019
17:53 < alazare619> dragonfleas: if you dont mind me asking whats your salary being we live in similiar parts of the country with similiar jobs
17:53 < nurgle> " i'm not interested in fixing man," aigth man. you do you.
17:53 < nurgle> if thats your attitude. fuk it
17:53 < nurgle> go figure out how to cron a reboot
17:54 < dragonfleas> well, it's being retired in 6 months anyways ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
17:54 < namol> dragonfleas: is the server at least virtual?
17:54 < dragonfleas> Yes
17:54 < dragonfleas> it's a VM
17:54 < namol> well you got that going for ya
17:54 < namol> so when it fucks up after a reboot in like 3.7 months, you're not going to say anything to us right?
17:55 < alazare619> ^ somebody has sand in their vagina
17:55 < dragonfleas> alazare619, 40k
17:56 < alazare619> o.O
17:56 < alazare619> in tulsa?
17:56 < syere> not necessarily. I think we have all been there, and have all been bitten by not fixing something because theoretically it's going away in six months. I can't tell you how many times i've heard that, and how many times that didn't happen
17:56 < alazare619> is your title SA?
17:56 < nurgle> syere: say hollow to my friend eventtracker. the auditing software that was supposed to be a 3 month stopgap that has turned into a 5 year support product.
17:57 < namol> syere: exactly
17:57 < syere> exactly
17:57 < grumplestiltzkin> syere++   if anything isn't guaranteed to be gone in a trivial amount of time, it needs support, or management signoff that they accept the risk
17:57 < alazare619> stopgaps stop being stopgaps when they work well enough for day to day use
17:57 < StrongBad> yo, I've got a 2 way trust between my new domain and my old domain. I'm moving my fileserver from old domain to new domain today. I made the move and the file server is able to log in to the new domain, however my users can't access file server by DNS name despite there being conditional forwarding between the two domains. Any idea where I should start troubleshooting?
17:58 < Alternity> dang savings account rates are going up quite a bit
17:58 < alazare619> do you have a cname on old domain for whatever.whatever.com to forward to whatever.newdomain.com
17:58 < Alternity> Current APY: 1.65%
17:58 < namol> StrongBad: NTFS permissions
17:58 < grumplestiltzkin> stronkbad - they *might* need to use the fqdn, its been a while
17:58 < nurgle> Alternity: welcome to inflation
17:58 < Alternity> always use the fqdn
17:59 < syere> so while I do understand dragonfleas predicament, I personally believe he's still learning putting out fire management. So namols response, while maybe a bit cranky, is something dragonfleas needs to hear. I don't think he has learned the lesson yet and he does need that type of feedback
17:59 < Alternity> or at least make sure your dns suffixes are properly GPO'd in order
17:59 < StrongBad> alazare619: afaik conditional forwarding takes care of this...
17:59 < Alternity> syere: wait what thread is this?
17:59 < Alternity> where is the drama
17:59 < alazare619> try adding a cname and see what happens
17:59 < grumplestiltzkin> StrongBad: are they able to hit it via fqdn?
17:59 < syere> Alternity: scroll up like 20 lines
17:59 < alazare619> "its always dns"
17:59 < Alternity> oh man i hate scrolling
17:59 < StrongBad> let me see
17:59 < TROGDORBurnin8r> TROGDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR
18:00 < Alternity> i should write a script to automate the scrolling for me
18:00 < mcj> Hi all, dumb macOS question but what is the best way to deploy software when installing from an image?
18:00 < dragonfleas> alazare619, yeah i'm a "sysadmin"
18:00 < TROGDORBurnin8r> batchfiles
18:00 < dragonfleas> my pay is shit
18:00 < mcj> For example, I use AutoDMG to create an installable image with all updates pre-packaged and then I would like to include FOSS like Firefox and Handbrake
18:00 < grumplestiltzkin> obligatory "sell the macs and replace with anything else"
18:00 < mcj> I wish
18:00 < TROGDORBurnin8r> i'm suprised you can even afford housing there with that pay and not trying to offend ya dragonfleas
18:01 < dragonfleas> TROGDORBurnin8r, i barely get by man
18:01 < Alternity> get 2 years xp as under paid sysadmin, find new job with 50% pay increase, rinse and repeat every two years
18:01 < dragonfleas> I'm also sole-role, but I'm going to be asking my boss for a raise soon
18:01 < TROGDORBurnin8r> got family there i live in a cheaper COL area and make more doing the same stuff i couldnt imagine man
18:01 < Alternity> only way to get big raises is new job
18:01 < Alternity> generally, there are exceptions but they are very rare
18:01 < dragonfleas> yeah, i told my boss i plan on being here for 3 years
18:01 < dragonfleas> he told me that's fine and expected in a sole-role position
18:01 < namol> syere: eh, it's not that cranky is it?
18:02 < Alternity> already more info than you should have given him
18:02 < syere> namol: it's certainly senior admin before coffee :)
18:02 < namol> haha fair enough
18:02 < dragonfleas> i'm going to start sending resumes after 2 years
18:02 < dragonfleas> really feel out options
18:02 < dragonfleas> you know?
18:02 < Alternity> sounds good, 2 years is decent
18:02 < AnimalFarmPig> 2 is fine
18:02 < grumplestiltzkin> dragonfleas: how old are you again?
18:02 < Alternity> very much depends where you live and if you can move
18:02 < syere> dragonfleas: have you considered taking automated nightly snapshots of that soon to be decommed server?
18:02 < dragonfleas> I wanna be sure that the next place I go to isn't toxic or hostile
18:02 < dragonfleas> grumplestiltzkin, i'm 22
18:03 < Alternity> if you are in the USA or EU and are willing to move, you have TONS of options
18:03 < Alternity> tech market hasn't been this hot since early 2000s
18:03 < namol> well, you better start up your skill learning game, windows admins are a dime a dozen and easily outsourced to off shores
18:03 < dragonfleas> I'm willing to move, GF told me she would be fine following me anywhere so i'm not really tied to anything here
18:03 < dragonfleas> I heard dallas has good sysadmin availability but the COL is high
18:03 < AnimalFarmPig> Dallas salary to COL ratio is one of the best around
18:03 < syere> dragonfleas: anywhere with good IT is going to have a higher COL
18:04 < dragonfleas> namol, how do you suggest I do that?
18:04 < Alternity> depends
18:04 < Alternity> COL in raleigh/durham for example
18:04 <+A-KO> new DSC resources up
18:04 <+A-KO> :D
18:04 < AnimalFarmPig> COL is going up, but it's still better than other cities of the same size
18:04 < Alternity> is still pretty low
18:04 < Alternity> and they have tons of high paying tech jobs
18:04 < syere> dragonfleas: you learn new skills by having a home lab
18:04 < dragonfleas> yeah it would be awesome if i could afford a home lab
18:04 < Alternity> you can
18:04 < Alternity> it's called AWS free tier
18:04 < dragonfleas> a t1.micro?
18:04 < syere> dragonfleas: you dont have access to old i5's at your office? or old servers they are going to toss?
18:04 < AnimalFarmPig> and Dallas COL is still fine, actually, if you're willing to live on the west side of metroplex
18:04 < dragonfleas> that's going to help me so much
18:04 < Alternity> good point, best to do nothing
18:05 < dragonfleas> syere, old i5's? you mean the pentium 4's we are still using
18:05 < Alternity> and just complain about your shit job
18:05 < namol> dragonfleas: troubleshooting work problems, building home lab, microsoft mva - https://mva.microsoft.com/, etc
18:05 <+layer-eight> * namol →  Microsoft Virtual Academy – Free Online Training for Developers, IT Professionals and Data Scientists
18:05 < Alternity> fuck Dallas traffic though
18:05 < grumplestiltzkin> dragonfleas: You are a big boy and can make your own decisions mang,  just advice that I wish I could have told my 18 year old self - retirement: put 10% in, pretax. always. if no 401k, get a roth.   Also: be willing to move to a different location if you really want to ramp up your career after this starter jerb.   I was active duty for most of my 20s, so had little say in it, but the same holds true now.  go where the most benefit is
18:05 < namol> dragonfleas: do you have a gaming rig?
18:05 < Alternity> <3 my 7 minute work commute
18:05 < syere> dragonfleas: don't knock the t1.micros man. you can run a chef server, nagios server, ssh jump box, and a web server on one of those things
18:06 < Alternity> you can also run basically every aws service
18:06 < namol> dragonfleas: t1 micros are enough to start cutting your teeth on linux admin stuff
18:06 < felda> alazare619 is the leader of the alt-center
18:06 < grumplestiltzkin> Dallas proper, yeah COL is a bit higher, but don't live in Dallas proper.  (I'm a bit north of Ft. Worth here)
18:06 < Alternity> if you really wanan maximize, azure has a free tier equivalent as well
18:06 < Alternity> or a cheap digital ocean vps is like 2.5/month
18:07 < syere> aws and azure both give you one free year, and both give you 1 linux vm and one windows vm
18:07 < dragonfleas> grumplestiltzkin, I would honestly love to put in retirement man, but I literally don't have any expendable money right now, i'm dealing with a shit ton of medical debt (that i have on a payment plan but I almost died so they're still huge payments) I have a large high interest rate car payment, and other stuff I'm trying to pay off, and after all of my COL, each month I only have like 500-600 to get by
18:07 < syere> azure also give syou free adfs
18:07 < dragonfleas> I've cut my expenses, trying to eat healthy and cheap, using reddit4
18:07 < scwizard> "As Anders mentioned, the Describe* Actions currently do not support resource level permissions. You can find a complete list of which EC2 APIs currently support resource-level permissions here."
18:07 < scwizard> hmmmmmmmmmmmm
18:07 < dragonfleas> but I honestly don't have a lot of expendable income
18:07 < Alternity> syere: oh ya, what do you mean adfs in azure?
18:07 < dragonfleas> grumplestiltzkin, i'm thinking about plano, it's nice there
18:07 < DomLS3> dragonfleas: "eating healthy" and "cheap" don't go together
18:07 < namol> azure ad
18:07 < scwizard> so there's no way to give an instance access to get the tags for itself, without giving it access to get the description of all instances
18:07 < namol> is adfs
18:07 < namol> basically
18:07 < dragonfleas> namol, honestly linux admin stuff is scary and so different to me, i don't even know where to start
18:08 < Alternity> you need the P1 tier for adfs saml connector equivalent
18:08 < Alternity> afaik
18:08 < syere> Alternity: you'll have to forgive my ignorance on azure, but im pretty sure they offer a free AD service, and ADFS for external programs you want to authenticate against it
18:08 < Alternity> ya it requires P1 on every user to use the SAML connector from it :/
18:08 < Alternity> the free tier you can only use preconfigured apps
18:08 < syere> good to know!
18:08 < namol> Alternity: technically no, since you can have guest accounts that don't use a license
18:08 < Alternity> namol: sure technically, but o365 licensing will be on your ass
18:09 < Alternity> if you don't license every user for it
18:09 < namol> Alternity: so like business to business etc aren't required
18:09 < grumplestiltzkin> dragonfleas: just FYI - retirement isn't 'expendible income'  and is (usually) pretax.  putting literally anything into it is better than nothing.     you might want to check out Dave Ramsey for strategies to get past debt.  no lie, it's going to suck a lot, but it's worth it
18:10 < namol> SSO/saml is free for 10 apps per user also
18:10 < namol> and that's all part of the free tier
18:10 < dragonfleas> grumplestiltzkin, yeah I have our match going in which is 3%
18:10 < dragonfleas> but that's all i can afford, 10% is a fuck ton
18:10 < namol> Alternity: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/details/active-directory/
18:10 <+layer-eight> * namol →  Pricing - Active Directory | Microsoft Azure
18:10 < syere> grumplestiltzkin: dont you think he should work on a six month emergency fund before going to retirement funds?
18:10 < syere> grumplestiltzkin: especially if he has a high interest car payment and medical debt
18:10 < grumplestiltzkin> dragonfleas: thats outstanding.
18:10 < dragonfleas> syere, I understand his logic, with match it's free money and is always recommended
18:11 < syere> didnt see the match part. yea, do that
18:11 < dragonfleas> syere, 6 month emergency fund I can't do, i just can't do it
18:11 < dragonfleas> that 6 month emergency fund will take me 5 years to save up that much
18:11 < syere> dragonfleas. $20 a month is a start.
18:11 < grumplestiltzkin> syere: ehh - theres different schools of thought on it - like theres 'no good time' to get started, so ust get started
18:11 < namol> dragonfleas: so back to building your skill set
18:11 < dragonfleas> i have a savings account, but I had to pull it all out for copay's when I had my medical shit happen
18:11 < namol> dragonfleas: do you have any type of gaming rig?
18:11 < syere> i think we need to flowchart dragonfleas options here. kinda sounds fun
18:11 < dragonfleas> namol, i do, it's nice
18:12 < namol> dragonfleas: congrats, you now have a homelab
18:12 < dragonfleas> i7 7700k 32 gb of ram
18:12 < syere> dragonfleas: then slap another hard drive in there and homelab that shit!
18:12 < syere> dual boot it
18:12 < dragonfleas> yeah right now I only have 256 gb SSD
18:12 < grumplestiltzkin> dragonfleas: yeah, 6 month fund is down th eline, just a small emergency fund like if you have to get a couple new tires unexpectedly, etc.   Ramsey recommends $1k liquid - and yeah, it will probably take a bit to get there
18:12 < syere> you have NO excuse not to be home labing
18:12 < dragonfleas> I should put a couple 2 TB's in there
18:12 < namol> just run vmware workstation/virtual box/hyperv etc
18:13 < dragonfleas> grumplestiltzkin, I honestly have REALLY bad luck, anytime I start getting a decent savings up, something terrible happens, it drains all my savings and i'm destitute
18:13 < syere> dragonfleas: you're writing the story of my early 20's lol
18:13 < grumplestiltzkin> dragonfleas: so the savings helped out then, right?
18:13 < dragonfleas> yes!
18:13 < dragonfleas> however
18:13 < grumplestiltzkin> working as intended
18:14 < grumplestiltzkin> :)
18:14 < Alternity> namol: looking at the page you linked it shows that 'Self-Service App Integration templates' which is their verbiage for SAML, SCIM or forms based is P1 only
18:14 < dragonfleas> more bad stuff follows right after when my savings is emptied then I end up having to get loans and max credit cards
18:14 < Alternity> you can have 10 apps on free tier, but only pre-integrated ones
18:14 < Alternity> so we can't roll our own, which would be the equivalent of AD FS
18:14 < Alternity> at least that is my reading of it
18:14 < dragonfleas> I literally had to go to the hospital, right after I got out, car threw a rod through my engine, cost me SO MUCH FUCKING MONEY to fix
18:14 < syere>  dragonfleas you said you have a gf. does she live with you and contribute towards finances?
18:15 < dragonfleas> syere, we don't live together, and she never expects me to do anything for her because she knows i'm struggling, but she's only 19 and works at fucking walgreens lmao
18:15 <+ihre> start selling drugs, its a nice way to make some money on the side
18:15 < Alternity> tell her to get a massage license
18:15 < dragonfleas> ihre, i've considered it
18:15 < syere> dragonfleas: roommates?
18:15 < Alternity> <6 months to get license, makes good money
18:15 < Alternity> also free massage for you, win win
18:15 < dragonfleas> syere, i live with my parents right now because i didn't have money to move into new aparment when my lease was up and I was out of money
18:15 <+ihre> sell your parents!
18:16 < syere> oh shit. dude, you're in a perfect situation to get out of your situation
18:16 < dragonfleas> honestly and wholeheartedly my life is kinda shit right now
18:16 < Alternity> wish i could live with parents again :P
18:16 < dragonfleas> syere, what do you mean?
18:16  * scwizard is a very lucky fellow who's never been to the hospital (outside of being born)
18:16 < syere> ok, few questions for you. and if you dont want to answer them i totally get it
18:16 < Alternity> you have a gf, free rent and a decent start in IT earlier than i did
18:16 < dragonfleas> I'm sleeping on a blanket on the tile floor in a very cramped living room
18:16 < Alternity> your situation sounds totally fine
18:16 < Alternity> we've all had shit jobs we had to live out
18:16 < grumplestiltzkin> dragonfleas: you might consider a sidegig for a while.   Ramsey insists that you can make $1500 extra a month by delivering pizzas.   I assume that means *every night and weekend*, but its somethig to think about.    Also, reducing monthly ongoing expenses - like paying more than $50ish for cellphone service, looking at your auto insurance, groceries,  entertainment, etc
18:16 < dragonfleas> my mom is only letting me stay until july 1st and i have to be out by then lmao
18:16 < dragonfleas> Who's Ramsey?
18:17 < grumplestiltzkin> Dave Ramsey
18:17 < syere> dragonfleas: why is she kicking you out?
18:17 < dragonfleas> grumplestiltzkin, i've cut my expenses, auto insurance is ungodly high for me because i'm young
18:17 < dragonfleas> syere, because there are more people needing to stay with her
18:17 < syere> I see
18:17 < dragonfleas> and i have to get out to accommodate them
18:18 < asimon> craigslist baby
18:18 < grumplestiltzkin> starting out at 'the real world' kind of sucks
18:18 < dragonfleas> i pay 300 dollars a month for auto insurance
18:18 < syere> alright. without a lot of time and beer and a white board
18:18 < GreyKite> everyone run, cryptic1 is coming!
18:18 < dragonfleas> shit
18:18 < dragonfleas> back to work everyone
18:18 < syere> im going to say, start looking for another job. move across the country before you get kicked out
18:18 < Alternity> dave ramsey is good for people who are bad at money
18:18 < syere> you are not going to get out of your situation where you are with the paths you are taking
18:18 < dragonfleas> syere, can't do that in 2 weeks lmao, I'm moving somewhere on the 30th, so after that I'll start browsing
18:18 < Alternity> if you are good with money his advice is pretty terrible
18:19 < Alternity> he advocates against index funds and for actively managed funds :/ come on dave!
18:19 < syere> Alternity: he is GREAT for people just learning
18:19 < Alternity> but his get out of debt advice is rock solid
18:19 < Alternity> syere: yup
18:19 < grumplestiltzkin> Alternity: the getting out of debt part, I disagree with a lot of his investing advice
18:19 < dragonfleas> honestly, I need to find a different job
18:19 < Alternity> ok cool, just give that disclaimer
18:19 < GreyKite> Alternity: isn't this the guy who gets mad kickback from those actively managed funds that he recommends?
18:19 < syere> I think he's a great stepping stone into FIRE
18:19 < Alternity> GreyKite: yuuup
18:19 < Alternity> syere: +1
18:19 < dragonfleas> You know what you guys could help  me with?
18:20 < Alternity> i am maxing my 401k and my roth this year :)
18:20 < dragonfleas> making a fucking resume
18:20 < dragonfleas> I'm terrible at it
18:20 <+ihre> sysadmin-resumes
18:20 < GreyKite> is good place
18:20 <+ihre> sort by top over last year
18:20 < Alternity> sec i have a good link for that dragonfleas
18:20 <+ihre> and pick a few
18:20 <+ihre> compile one for yourself based on the top ones
18:20 < dragonfleas> no, i don't have trouble with pretty formatting, but what information I should put in
18:20 < GreyKite> dragonfleas: yes, look at those
18:20 < scwizard> TIL that this is a thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link-local_address
18:20 <+layer-eight> * scwizard →  Link-local address - Wikipedia
18:20 < grumplestiltzkin> alt srs - his real estate investing advice is like for a $150k house, to pay cash then rent it out, and its all profit, and wont matter if its empty for a few months a year ... instead of taking that 150k and buying like 5 rental properties
18:20 <+ihre> see my last 4 comments ><
18:20 < dragonfleas> i know accomplishments, feats, credentials, experience etc
18:20 < syere> dragonfleas: you put in the work, look at sysadmin-resumes, and I bet you any one of us would be happy to look over it and give you recommendations
18:20 <+ihre> same deal
18:20 < dragonfleas> ok cool
18:21 < Alternity> grumplestiltzkin: i dont have enough saved to do real estate yet :/, another 5 years
18:21 < Alternity> kind of hoping for a crash before then
18:21 < grumplestiltzkin> Alternity: REIT mang.   get in on one of those commercial property REITs, its not quite the same, but solid
18:21 <+ihre> i shouldve picked up Ayden IPO shares yesterday
18:22 <+ihre> doubled in 24h :x
18:22 < syere> dragonfleas: i'm pretty sure we all get that you are young and just starting in IT  and everything is a fire and the world seems to constantly collapse around you. That's life, and that's IT life. But admins stick together. Life is crappy enough with users. We are all happy to HELP each other, not do each others work. Putting the effort in, even if you fail, shows any of us that you are trying, and that's all anyone really as
18:22 < DomLS3> ihre: adyen*
18:22 < Alternity> grumplestiltzkin: i've heard pretty mixed things about those
18:22 <+ihre> DomLS3: but you know what i meant so that is fine :P
18:23 < DomLS3> supposedly eBay is nixxing paypal for Adyen
18:23 < Alternity> grumplestiltzkin: it's funny at this point i pretty much ignore the advice on pf and only pay attention to FI
18:24 < Alternity> since most of the suggestions are either to basic or just wrong
18:24 < Alternity> though half the FI posts being humblebrags is a bit annoying
18:24 < StrongBad> OK, I moved the FS from old domain to new domain w/ two way trusts and conditional forwarding. I appeared to be having DNS problems so I made a cname on old domain forwarding to new domain. users can access FS by going to \\fs.newdomain.com but can't access it by going to \\fs. One of the errors I got is "The account is not authorized to log in from this station"
18:24 < grumplestiltzkin> Alternity: pf/FI ?
18:24 < StrongBad> I tried making a reg entry recommended here https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/4e9f7b19-d820-4d30-98c5-cd96e6d57cda/build-9926-the-account-is-not-authorized-to-log-in-from-this-station-error-with-network?forum=WinPreview2014Feedback but it didn't work
18:25 < DomLS3> StrongBad: are you using ADMT?
18:26 < dragonfleas> Sysadmin forever!
18:26 <+ihre> goat herder forever
18:27 <+ihre> at least that is a job that has been around for .... 6k years +?
18:30 < Alternity> grumplestiltzkin: personalfinance vs financialindepence subss
18:31 < Alternity> hey if you want REAL job security
18:31 < Alternity> learn COBOL!  there will be critical systems running COBOL for the next 100 years probably
18:31 < grumplestiltzkin> oh, reddit things?  gotcha
18:32 < Alternity> i wonder if someone will try to use machine learning to refactor existing COBOL systems
18:32 < Alternity> not sure if that's possible but you could easily make billions if you could figure it out
18:32 < StrongBad> had intermittent results connecting DomLS3. flushed dns and all that, no luck. Had user reboot and now all is well
18:32 < StrongBad> when in doubt---REBOOT
18:32 < dragonfleas> You guys wanna see what my resume looks like now?
18:33 < grumplestiltzkin> sticky note?
18:36 < scwizard> but man i feel pretty bad. Like I could barely figure out how to get a job for myself
18:36 < scwizard> so i feel like I can't really help others
18:38 < namol> getting a job is really just a social engineering experiment
18:39 < namol> i remember my first IT gig, was making 650 every two weeks after tax
18:39 < namol> tier 1 support for a small mom and pop isp
18:40 <+ihre> i started with fucking 4 paid hours/week, and put in 16 additional hours voluntarily ;p
18:40 <+ihre> first payment was 156eur for 1 month, lol
18:41 < asimon> I don't think that's gonna make dragonfleas feel any better
18:41 < dragonfleas> https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRc4Kjy_-7kDD2mjiBqTFDleDxZic11TMk5yOB1xnhvQaguTXOrKMS9jzN14YmDF451nW-6VxVcS_PU/pub
18:41 <+layer-eight> * dragonfleas →  Resume Generic
18:42 < nurgle> DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS
18:42 < dragonfleas> um
18:43 < Alternity> it's just practice and experience
18:43 < syere> dragonfleas: take your address out ASAP
18:43 < namol> dragonfleas: so your list your skills but you don't list how or where you used them
18:43 <+ihre> syere: its fake, lol
18:43 < syere> you never put a address in a resume, fake or not
18:43 < dragonfleas> what do you mean namol
18:43 < namol> so you list these skills
18:43 < dragonfleas> i didn't know you weren't supposed to list an address
18:44 < namol> but under experience there's like nothing
18:44 <+ihre> the address is part of the cover letter
18:44 <+ihre> not your resume
18:44 < nurgle> only thing i list is a personal email address.
18:44 < syere> dragonfleas: personally i take my phone number out as well. they get an email
18:44 < nurgle> one that is specifically for resumes.
18:44 < syere> dragonfleas: first, they do not need to know where you live. they only care if you can make it in on time
18:45 < syere> dragonfleas: second, dont put your phone number on there. you'll never stop getting direct calls from recruiters all over the place for shit that isnt even in your skill set
18:45 <+ihre> dragonfleas: ie, automation, you create automation in 2 languages, VB and POSH, but dont list what kinds of automation, or for what purpose, or what you have achieved with those scripts
18:45 < nurgle> oof
18:45 < nurgle> vb
18:45 < namol> lot of automation in vb have ya?
18:45 < dragonfleas> I'm fine with them having my phone number
18:45 <+ihre> i wouldnt know
18:45 <+ihre> never used it
18:45 <+ihre> but its written on his resume :P
18:46 < namol> used vb a lot on server 2000/2003
18:46 < dragonfleas> Yeah i've written a few scripts in VB, wrote a wake on lan application for one org i worked for in vb.net
18:46 < namol> when a batch file wouldn't do
18:47 < dragonfleas> ihre, I see what you mean, but wouldn't my resume get huge with all that specificity?
18:47 < namol> well if you take out that address crap etc you have more room
18:47 < namol> set that stuff up in the header
18:47 < dragonfleas> okay I adjusted it to just email
18:47 <+ihre> and knowledge of TCP/IP/networking fundamentals is great, but what are your networking fundamentals, are you able to do VLSM or w/e, how did your networking fundamentals help you debug some specific usecase?
18:48 < dragonfleas> No i can't do VLSM
18:48 < dragonfleas> never learned how
18:49 <+ihre> im not asking you specifically, its the question you should ask yourself :P
18:49 <+ihre> because, in essence, youre selling yourself with a good resume
18:49 < dragonfleas> well i have a shitty amount of skills
18:49 < dragonfleas> lol
18:50 < namol> well, that's what you think
18:50 <+ihre> so pick the best of of them, try to think of some usecases you've ran into during work and describe that
18:50 < namol> but the question is, what have you done
18:50 < namol> write that down and then we can help you list skills
18:50 <+ihre> an employer wants to know how you use your networking fundamentals, or tcp/ip knowledge
18:50 < dragonfleas> Well, I overhauled the backup system at my current job
18:50 < dragonfleas> I migrated us off of old software
18:51 < dragonfleas> I didn't have a lot of access at my previous jobs, so there's nothing huge that I can really name :(
18:51 < namol> great! put that on the resume
18:51 < s7rawman> Be sure to include the troubleshooting you had to do with those projects.
18:51 < namol> it's ok, you're listing experience that you have so the employer can see what you've been exposed to
18:51 < s7rawman> in the interviews
18:52 < dragonfleas> I'm going to split skills, simplify skills, and add accomplishments
18:52 < syere> dragonfleas: i sent you a message with my resume on it. feel free to use it as a template
18:54 <+ihre> re: firewalls, maybe some brands/models you've worked with, and for policies, possibly add some 'real compliance standards', HIPAA/PCI-DSS (just naming 2 'popular' ones here)
18:54 < admiralspark> did it work
18:54 < admiralspark> YES
18:54 < admiralspark> I didn't get booted to sysadmin quarantine
18:55 <+ihre> sasl auth?
18:55 < dragonfleas> syere, i looked over yours, I have a really hard time quantifying what I've done and being able to articulate it on paper
18:56 < admiralspark> ihre: didn't have a delay to authenticate before joining this channel
18:56 < syere> dragonfleas: when you get home, grab a beer and pretend like you are talking about your previous jobs with a peer. then just  bullet point it and refine it
18:56 < syere> we can  help with refining it
18:56 < dragonfleas> fair
18:56 < admiralspark> dragonfleas: https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadminresumes/
18:56 <+layer-eight> * admiralspark →  Sysadmin Resumes
18:56 < dragonfleas> admiralspark, yeah i just came from there
18:56 < admiralspark> oh, where's yours?
18:59 < namol> syere: why wait till he's home? lol
18:59 < syere> namol: 22 sole admin first real gig? he hasn't earned the drinking and work right yet xD
18:59 < admiralspark> YEah, why not drink and talk to yourself at work?
18:59 < admiralspark> :P
18:59 < admiralspark> aww
19:00 < namol> well you said beer, not like he's busting out the hard alcohol yet
19:00 < nurgle> oh great
19:00 < nurgle> funs over
19:00 < nurgle> pack it up boys
19:00 < syere> dragonfleas: i'll never stop saying it. GET YOUR HOME LAB TOGETHER. even if it is just virtualbox on your game rig. I have absolutely hired no experience juniors before based on what they had accomplished in their home labs
19:01 < dragonfleas> syere, what are some accomplishments that impressed you?
19:01 < dragonfleas> just having a fully running homelab?
19:01 <+ihre> admiralspark: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/P213o4rRnoqfyD35R4ws1A cut off some stuff
19:01 < namol> syere: you hiring disgrunteled seniors for wfh?! lol
19:01 <+layer-eight> * ihre →  Untitled - Modern Paste
19:01 < syere> dragonfleas: good question!
19:01 <+ihre> but that landed me a pretty good (current job) :P
19:01 < syere> dragonfleas: im primarily in linux land, so just convert this to windows if that's your play place
19:01 < scwizard> Gets the name of the current ec2 instance -> aws ec2 describe-instances --instance-ids $(curl -s http://169.254.169.254/latest/meta-data/instance-id) --query "Reservations[*].Instances[*].Tags[?Key=='Name'].Value" --output text
19:02 <+ihre> ehh, dragonfleas i mean, https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/P213o4rRnoqfyD35R4ws1A
19:02 <+layer-eight> * ihre →  Untitled - Modern Paste
19:02 < namol> dragonfleas: home labs with well setup core technologies like DHCP/DNS, if you're targeted to Microsoft, AD, maybe a CA, File SErvices etc
19:02 < admiralspark> dragonfleas: he has a good point. I can talk about how I demo stuff in my homelab and then implement it in a work lab/production. I love doing that. I also get to play with tech in my homelab that I don't at work, and mentioning that specific fact shows that I have an interest in self-improvement beyond what the company is willing to provide
19:03 < admiralspark> ihre: one sec
19:03 <+ihre> i think building a elaborate home lab setup is what really helped me land my current job
19:03 < syere> dragonfleas: the last guy I hired with 0 experience had a old i5 16gb desktop. he installed esxi on it as the base hypervisor. he had a linux instance with plex on it that he maintained. He also had openmediavault to simulate a nas/san for storage to plex. Another vm was just a basic apache server with wordpress installed, but more importantly, he had another linux VM with mysql on it to attach to wordpress. he also ran pfsen
19:03 <+ihre> in the end its nice to add to the resume, but i've mostly used it for learning stuff I ran into at work
19:04 < dragonfleas> syere, i could do all of that
19:04 < syere> dragonfleas: SO DO IT!!! Then make a sub section under skills called homelab
19:05 < syere> find projects that make your home life better
19:05 <+ihre> and since my current boss is a nerd, i mentioned i wrote my resume in markdown + latex, and used pandoc to convert it to a pretty pdf
19:05 < syere> these are not projects that have to align with any company
19:05 < syere> you are just showing you are smart and capable and can absolutely learn
19:05 < Church-> Heya folks
19:05 <+ihre> which made him laugh out loud, and was the cherry on top, just the small extras to make it work in the end :P
19:05 < syere> hell, i've tossed out in interviews before how I built my own home automation system
19:06 < s7rawman> dragonfleas: Get out of your own way mate. I haven't been here for the whole convo, it looks like your in-action is the greatest adversary at this point.
19:06 <+ihre> github also really helps
19:06 <+ihre> if you have some useful scripts
19:06 <+ihre> push them to github
19:06 < officerrando> man, github is so cool for programmers. it's like a 24/7 resume.
19:06 <+ihre> https://github.com/salomonelli/best-resume-ever
19:06 <+layer-eight> * ihre →  GitHub → salomonelli → best-resume-ever → :necktie: :briefcase: Build fast :rocket: and easy multiple beautiful resumes and create your best CV ever! Made with Vue and LESS. → @ ~ 7 days ago → Vue → ✡ 10,208 → Forks: 1,141 → ☹ 21
19:06 < officerrando> obviously people could copypasta to their hub and say its theirs, but still
19:07 <+ihre> i dont program, at all
19:07 <+ihre> i've written some puppet modules, stuff like that
19:07 <+ihre> published, maintained for a while
19:08 < officerrando> yes, but our little scripts, configs, etc, don't carry the same weight as full blown apps and stuff a programmer might publish. ya know?
19:08 <+ihre> i dont agree
19:08 < officerrando> still cool, tho. especially if you have a bunch of PS stuff and your new job is ps heavy.
19:09 <+ihre> my current job heavily leans on puppet, so having a bunch of modules on both the forge and github showed im not just talking crap :P
19:09 < officerrando> yes, for sure. those would be super useful
19:09 < officerrando> i'm all windows in an msp. so we don't do a lot of scripting, sadly. most of our clients networks are either too small or too dissimilar for it to not be worth it.
19:10 < namol> that's not quite true
19:10 < nurgle> Bitcoin’s rise might be linked to price manipulation, study indicates
19:10 < nurgle> no fucking shit
19:10 < namol> you could have a user provisioning script
19:10 < officerrando> easier to use ADUC, typically.
19:11 < officerrando> however, since most of our clients have been migrated to O365 by now, would be cool to create the AD/365 user at once.
19:11 < officerrando> we'd just have to write it for each client, change the client specific stuff.
19:11 < namol> you guys doing azure ad connect?
19:11 < officerrando> nope
19:12 < officerrando> not worth the effort for really any of our clients. too small.
19:12 < namol> this is why i could never work for a msp that catered towards small mom and pop
19:13 < officerrando> it's actually pretty fantastic. we're pretty damn good, so even with 45 clients or so, they require almost no work
19:13 < officerrando> there's just 6 of us, and we're pretty boutique.
19:14 < officerrando> most tickets get addressed within 5 minutes, resolution 80% or so within 10 minutes.
19:16 < officerrando> i personally come from Air Force IT. 4800 customers, running 8 exchange servers, base wide DCs, etc. so it's a change for me. but i've grown to really like it.
19:16 <+giant_it_burrit> do you have a dodge charger?
19:16 <+giant_it_burrit> or is the air force a camaro branch
19:18 < grumplestiltzkin> wat
19:18 <+giant_it_burrit> join military buy car
19:19 < officerrando> i had a mustang. but i'd wanted a mustang for years before joining
19:19 < grumplestiltzkin> mustang at 28% interest is standard
19:19 < officerrando> but yeah. LOTS of shady ass dealers have lots right off base. young kids buying cars they can't afford
19:20 < officerrando> mine was 12.5%. first loan by myself. paid off 2 years early.
19:20 < officerrando> though it was a 96 and this was in 2001. so it's not like it was brand new or anything.
19:21 < officerrando> I think I had that car for 13 years or so.
19:22 < officerrando> i still miss it sometimes. https://i.imgur.com/GDpD3xT.jpg
19:22 <+layer-eight> * officerrando →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 185,359 bytes
19:25 < alazare619> does confluence not just have a "site" license
19:25 < alazare619> looking for something that can do onenote like but for a site
19:25 < alazare619> think like microsofts wiki thing they have
19:25 < alazare619> cant think of the name off hand
19:26 < grumplestiltzkin> sharepoint?
19:27 <+Hunterkll> giant_it_burrit, a-ko had a dodge avenger lol
19:27 <+Hunterkll> but he was never military
19:27 <+Hunterkll> just dum
19:28 <+Hunterkll> and american
19:28 <+Hunterkll> he upgraded to a fusion hybrid
19:28 <+Hunterkll> lol
19:28 <+giant_it_burrit> "upgraded"
19:29 < dragonfleas> My coworkers just guilt tripped me about skipping a baby shower at work
19:29 < dragonfleas> lol
19:29 < dragonfleas> syere, i don't even have a home right now though lol
19:30 < dragonfleas> but when i do have a home I will try to get a cheap like r510 or something and make it into an ESXI host
19:31 < admiralspark> ihre: can I offer some advice for the resume?
19:32 < admiralspark> ihre: you have bullet points and paragraphs, I would keep the resume to be just bullet points (more expanded obvs), and then use the paragraphs as talking points in interviews
19:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> Driveways_: fook baby showers
19:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> opps
19:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> sry Driveways_
19:32 < syere> dragonfleas: but you're never abandoning your gaming rig. thats your home lab
19:33 < admiralspark> ihre: I'd bullet point list the techs like * linuxHA, KVM, Graylog2
19:38 < Hatter> time is moving very slowly
19:38 < Hatter> can someone say or show us something interesting please
19:41 < gnupluslinux> Put yo hands down my pants and ill bet youll feel nuts
19:41 < officerrando> are you siskel, are you ebert?
19:41 < nurgle> gnupluslinux: more like raisans
19:41 < nurgle> amirite
19:41 < nurgle> #tinyballs
19:42 < gnupluslinux> Yes im siskel yes im ebert and youre getting two thumbs up officerrando
19:42 < officerrando> when you're sitting around shooting the shit at work and you start getting server alerts: https://i.imgur.com/mwnjops.gifv
19:42 <+layer-eight> * officerrando →  Our IT dept. when people start shouting that a server is down
19:42 < nurgle> quick someone give me a four letter word thats easy to type
19:42 < gnupluslinux> Nope
19:42 < nurgle> ehh
19:42 < nurgle> that requires left pinky on shift
19:42 < nurgle> no good
19:43 < nurgle> starts off with left hand preferably
19:43 < officerrando> huge
19:43 < officerrando> free
19:43 < nurgle> same deal
19:43 < nurgle> free
19:43 < nurgle> i like it
19:43 < officerrando> werd
19:43 < nurgle> werd is even better
19:43 < gnupluslinux> wasd
19:43 < officerrando> drew
19:43 < gnupluslinux> Thats a word right
19:43 < nurgle> drew not so good
19:43 < nurgle> reverse order isnt fun
19:43 < officerrando> crew
19:44 < officerrando> deer
19:44 < Hatter> anyone ever heard that siskel and ebert audio where they're motherfuckering each other
19:44 < nurgle> went with WERD
19:44 < nurgle> thanks for the suggestions
19:44 < officerrando> werd
19:44 < Hatter> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmnYCSwt2Js
19:45 <+layer-eight> * Hatter →  YouTube → Siskel and Ebert Uncensored → ⚘ 396,914 ↑ 1,821 ↓ 55 ✍ 791
19:45 < nurgle> cd /var/yp;make
19:45 < nurgle> weewps
19:47 < nurgle> BAHAHAHAHA
19:47 < nurgle> corp wants me to do their tickets
19:47 < nurgle> BAHAHAHA
19:48 < nurgle> fuck off
19:48 < Hatter> you'll do it, or ELSE
19:48 < nurgle> hatter im on vacay starting tomorrow at noon
19:48 < nurgle> they can suck my ass
19:48 < Hatter> yeah you're really tough here but tell them that
19:48 < nurgle> give me their number and i will
19:50 < nurgle> Hatter: thats what i thought
19:50 < nurgle> all talk and no walk
19:50 < nurgle> next time put your money where your wallet is, and keep your opinions out of here.
19:51 < SynMonger> u w0t m8?
19:52 <+Hunterkll> here
19:52 <+Hunterkll> upboat my feedback https://aka.ms/AA1k7aw
19:53 < Hatter> someone describe that link please
19:53 < Casteil> CP
19:53 <+Hunterkll> Hatter, it's an 'aka.ms' link - MS's url manager
19:53 <+Hunterkll> lol
19:54 <+Hunterkll> only MS employees and applications run by MS can create links through that
19:54 < Hatter> well I guess I believe you
19:54 <+Hunterkll> Selected user account does not exist in tenant 'Microsoft' and cannot access the application '84ae1802-2c86-45e9-8033-3c4315e613f0' in that tenant. The account needs to be added as an external user in the tenant first. Please use a different account.
19:54 <+Hunterkll> <-- what i get when i try and log in
19:54 < Hatter> here it goes
19:55 < insecurity> i clicked and now my browser is mining cryptocurrency
19:55 <+Hunterkll> lol
19:55 < kev__> If I want an exchange account to be able to send as every user would I use the Application Impersonation role?
19:56 <+Hunterkll> O.o
19:56 <+Hunterkll> insecurity, that's how they're funding that old win10 giveaway
20:01 < spacecrab> hello again all
20:02 < technonerd> Siri doesn't work at work
20:02 < technonerd> Configurator is broken too
20:03 < ekaj> `bofh
20:03 <+layer-eight> BOFH Excess condensation in cloud network
20:07 < StrongBad> I deserve today off
20:07 < rhqq> StrongBad: get back to work
20:07 < rhqq> ;p
20:07 < rhqq> #shitcryptic1says
20:07 < StrongBad> I did the hardest part of our domain migration today
20:07 < corn266> FUCK YEA WE'RE GETTING AUTHORIZED
20:08 < corn266> s/AUTHORIZED/euthenized
20:08 <+layer-eight> [SED corn266] FUCK YEA WE'RE GETTING euthenized
20:08 < Driveways_> McDonaldsWiFi: i agree, fuck baby showers
20:12 < alazare619> anyone got a good problem step recorder alternative?
20:12 < alazare619> something that saves to standard html or docx instead of mhtml
20:14 < Hatter> it's even slow in here
20:14 < Hatter> what's going on today
20:15 < gamerfox> Probably too much blood in everyone's caffeine streams right now
20:19 < pupp3r> not enough duccs
20:19 < felda> The middle class is a parasite on the glorious proletariat
20:20 < corn266> the proletariat would be nothing without the middle class
20:20 < asimon> Woah guys
20:20 < asimon> politics
20:20 < spacecrab> sketching out an idea for snapshotting blockchain client data volumes
20:20 < spacecrab> regonizing old usernames on here that i havent seen in like 2yr
20:20 < spacecrab> recog*
20:20 < corn266> your a bourgeoisie asimon
20:21 < asimon> you what
20:21 < spacecrab> im dirty dan
20:21 < corn266> you herd me
20:21 <+giant_it_burrit> plz stop
20:21 <+giant_it_burrit> it hurts
20:22 < asimon> I looked up a youtube video i posted two years ago of a shitty machine learning tetris bot
20:22 < asimon> and I was real surprised to see the comments were mostly in awe
20:22 < asimon> asking for source code and wondering why it didn't have 1m views
20:22 <+giant_it_burrit> what do you do with machine learning now
20:22 < asimon> is this what fame is
20:23 < spacecrab> giant_it_burrit: iterate across datasets and shit to build models or whatever the fuck
20:23 < asimon> Unfortunately I don't do much with machine learning atm, but I'm always looking for jobs at work that might be able to use it
20:23 < spacecrab> places that have too much data and need a way to make sense of it
20:23 < spacecrab> also, not hot dog
20:23 < asimon> It built the bot for a ML class since it seemed fun
20:24 < asimon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP2738mJSbc
20:24 <+layer-eight> * asimon →  YouTube → Machine Learning Tetris → ⚘ 8,429 ↑ 89 ↓ 4 ✍ 14
20:26 <+giant_it_burrit> i enjoyed that
20:26 <+giant_it_burrit> ty for sharing
20:27 < asimon> Np. It's actually pretty neat math when you get into it
20:28 < asimon> Abstracting the decision of where to place the piece into a policy allows it to handle any input board and piece; after each move, it asses how well that policy progress towards its goal and updated the policy accordingly
20:30 < dragonfleas> I love PRTG
20:30 < dragonfleas> it just works
20:30 < dragonfleas> Like, I never have issues with it
20:31 < SynMonger> I don't do anything but basic monitoring so I went with librenms
20:31 < Hatter> PRTG is great
20:31 < Hatter> I've created some groovy dynamic map dashboards with it
20:32 < officerrando> i miss prtg. only works well in single environments, though. :( so i can't use it.
20:32 < Hatter> what the heck do you mean
20:33 < officerrando> cost and logistics of monitoring little client networks makes it not worth it
20:33 < officerrando> at least was the case a few years ago when I tested it.
20:33 < Hatter> but it's free up to 100 sensors
20:33 < AnimalFarmPig> needs a windows license
20:33 < officerrando> I have 45 client sites.
20:34 < officerrando> roughly.
20:34 < officerrando> plus getting them to report back means firewall holes, etc. easier to use the right tool, which for us is continuum.
20:34 < officerrando> but if i were a single co. admin, prtg is glorious. :)
20:37 < Nightcinder> :(
20:37 < Nightcinder> my work chair's been given a $400 budget
20:37 < AnimalFarmPig> I visited PRTG booth the other day at Cisco Live. Looked neat. I was curious about it because I've spent the last year working on building a custom NMS. Different problem domains though.
20:37 < Nightcinder> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Steelcase-Leap-Chair-V2-Open-Box-Fully-Loaded-Black-Fabric/121882349228?epid=2068857073&hash=item1c60c10eac:g:c3sAAOSwJb9Wr6fT:sc:UPSGround!44130!US!-1 i guess i could buy this
20:37 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  Steelcase Leap Chair, V2 -Open Box- Fully Loaded Black Fabric   | eBay
20:37 < AnimalFarmPig> the dashboards looked snazzy
20:38 < Nightcinder> don't think i want the mesh back
20:38 < Nightcinder> idk
20:38 < Nightcinder> the mesh back is super cheap
20:38 < Nightcinder> black fabric probs best
20:38 < Nightcinder>  i'm too fat for the aeron
20:38 < dragonfleas> nightcinder my work chair was given the budget of 0 dollars, we got it free donated from a liquidation and it has holes and is rugged
20:38 < Nightcinder> i have a current steelcase think
20:38 < Nightcinder> that i hate
20:39 < Nightcinder> because it leans back and slides down
20:39 < Nightcinder> aeron size C is over budget at $500+
20:39 < Nightcinder>  i'm 6'7 300
20:39 < officerrando> my chair contains the farts of generations of sysadmins who came before me. and occasionally rises up when I'm not sitting in it.
20:40 < Nightcinder> i wish mine rose up
20:40 < officerrando> there are enough crumbs in the cracks between the seat and arm rests to make a meal if i get hungry.
20:40 < Hatter> Project Honolulu = Windows Admin Center right
20:42 < gamerfox> My arm rests are held on with 3m tape and hope.
20:44 < officerrando> lol
20:46 <@JollyRgrs> Hatter: yes
20:49 < Hatter> oh ok
20:49 < Hatter> it's alright I guess
20:50 < asimon> Do they have standing desks that can accommodate two monitors and a laptop?
20:51 < spacecrab> like all of em
20:51 < spacecrab> worst case scenario get a separate arm to serve as a laptop tray
20:51 < asimon> Really? I thought they'd be smaller
20:51 < spacecrab> ive always seem varidesks with two monitors
20:52 < asimon> Huh, neat
20:52 < asimon> I might look into getting one
20:52 < spacecrab> example https://i.imgur.com/ygGEJiy.jpg
20:52 <+layer-eight> * spacecrab →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 158,305 bytes
20:52 < spacecrab> i havent bought into the standing desk meme yet, but i too am interested
20:52 <@cryptic1> spacecrab, back to work
20:52 < asimon> Jesus why are they so expensive
20:52 <@cryptic1> asimon, back to work
20:52 < spacecrab> @cryptic1 aye
20:52 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, back to work
20:52 < asimon> This is for work!
20:52 <@cryptic1> Hatter, back to work
20:53 <@cryptic1> gamerfox, back to work
20:53 <@cryptic1> officerrando, back to work
20:53 <@cryptic1> Nightcinder, back to work
20:53 <@cryptic1> AnimalFarmPig, back to work
20:53 <+TuxedoJack> Fucking Surface Books
20:53 <@cryptic1> dbcc, back to work
20:53 <@cryptic1> killdash9, back to work
20:53 <@cryptic1> ravioli, back to work
20:53 < spacecrab> @asimon because people usually get workplaces to buy them. actually to really speak to why they're expensive though: they come pre-assembled and iirc are made in the USA but don't quote me on that
20:53 <@cryptic1> TuxedoJack, back to work
20:53 <+TuxedoJack> Why the fuck is the fucking power button on the goddamn bezel where you can accidentally bump it
20:53 <+TuxedoJack> And turn the fucking thing on when it's fucking closed
20:54 < spacecrab> erm, who bumps their screen bezel?
20:54 < Hatter> he just said he does
20:54 <+TuxedoJack> cryptic1: fuck your work, I automated my shit
20:54 < asimon> Fuckin america
20:54 < spacecrab> more importantly, why do they instead put power buttons sometimes on the rear of the monitor housing? i cant tell what the fuck the functions do and its always a guessing game spamming this nipple button thing back there
20:54 <+TuxedoJack> spacecrab: http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--iLp9KfES--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/1483740237613371028.jpg
20:54 <+layer-eight> * TuxedoJack →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 35,972 bytes
20:54 < spacecrab> ohhh, yeah i had a surface gen 1 a long time ago
20:55 <+TuxedoJack> The fucking thing was closed on my desk, I tried to pick it and the Latitude on top of it up, and my thumb bumped the power button
20:55 < spacecrab> generally speaking those types of designs are usually coupled with firmware that makes you hold it for a second for it to do anything, otherwise no impact
20:55 < spacecrab> did they fuck that up lol?
20:55 <+TuxedoJack> But that would make sense
20:55 <+TuxedoJack> And we can't have that
20:55 <+TuxedoJack> Seriously, just a tap and the fucking thing powers on
20:55 < spacecrab> RIP TuxedoJack you will be missed
20:56 <+TuxedoJack> LIke it's a fucking cum-hungry milking machine in a room full of tech-fetishists
20:56 <+TuxedoJack> With boners for their robot waifus
20:56 < spacecrab> itt:reddit
20:56 < spacecrab> ?
20:57 <+Hunterkll> lol
20:57 <+Hunterkll> surface gen 1 taught me what computers could really be like
20:57 <+Hunterkll> :P
20:57 <+TuxedoJack> Hunterkll: bah. Give me my Precision M6500 any day
20:57 <+TuxedoJack> Sure, Surfaces are NICE
20:57 <+Hunterkll> f that
20:58 <+TuxedoJack> But eh
20:58 <+Hunterkll> surface pro 2017 is my daily driver for work now
20:58 <+Hunterkll> surface book has relegated all my personal devices into disuse
20:58 <+Hunterkll> sitting in piles
20:58 <+Hunterkll> needing to be sold
20:58 < catbeard> surfaces are nice until you have to clean them
20:58 <+Hunterkll> you ... just ... wipe them off...?
20:59 < catbeard> marble is nice
20:59 <+Hunterkll> my spro was the best linux machine i've ever had
20:59 <+Hunterkll> my macbook was the best/most stable windows machine i've ever had
20:59 <+Hunterkll> my $any_other_vendor sucked dick
20:59 <+Hunterkll> it's not that hard to get hardware right
20:59 <+Hunterkll> it's just expensive
20:59 <+Hunterkll> lol
21:00 <+Hunterkll> 'tis why a same spec dell of the same build quality will cost more than apple
21:00 <+Hunterkll> lol
21:01 <+Hunterkll> and microsoft costs more than apple :o
21:05 < alazare619> Hunterkll:  my daily driver is a HP Elitebook 8570w
21:06 < alazare619> its HEAVY as hell but has an I7 and 32GB of ram full nic usb 3 2 batteries  SSD 512GB and an M2 boot drive
21:06 <+Hunterkll> yea
21:06 <+Hunterkll> i'll compromise and VPN back home if i need heavy work
21:06 <+Hunterkll> surface book plays EVE and shit so i'm good there
21:07 <+Hunterkll> at home i have an 18 core i9 with 128GB ram :D
21:07 < officerrando> butwhy.gif
21:07 <+Hunterkll> i blame roulette
21:07 <+Hunterkll> dual 1080 tis and a 2tb 960 pro :P
21:07 < officerrando> jfc
21:07 < alazare619> the RJ11 is really nice tho for direct console
21:08 < officerrando> so you upgraded from a pet tarantula? lol
21:08 < alazare619> i have a RJ11 to RJ45 console cable that i use all the time not having to depend on one of those shitty USB to Console adapters is huge
21:08 < alazare619> Hunterkll:  thats just my at work pc tho
21:09 < alazare619> considering i go into closets patch shit server room having a portable workstation is nice
21:09 < alazare619> just undock and go
21:09 < felda> are your users also 5 years old?
21:09 <+Hunterkll> alazare619, mine's a 256GB surface pro 2017 8GB ram
21:09 <+Hunterkll> lol
21:09 <+Hunterkll> eh
21:09 <+Hunterkll> officerrando, my last machine was a 3x980 Ti i7-5960X w/128GB ram
21:09 <+Hunterkll> alazare619, i just have a usb3 gigE adapter
21:09 <+Hunterkll> meh
21:09 < alazare619> i have a surface pro 2017 with 16GB of ram in my desk draw
21:09 < felda> see user pull earbuds out of pocket
21:09 <+Hunterkll> still takes up less space
21:09 < alazare619> been there for over a year now
21:09 < alazare619> almost 2
21:09 < felda> they are tangled but not terrible
21:09 < felda> user begins violently shaking them
21:09 < alazare619> surface probook i should say
21:10 <+Hunterkll> surface probook...?
21:10 < felda> earbuds are now more tightly packeted and tangled
21:10 <+Hunterkll> you mean surface book
21:10 <@JollyRgrs> felda: they recharge by kinetic energy
21:10 <@JollyRgrs> duh
21:10 < felda> SHAKING INTENSIFIES
21:10 < felda> please just
21:10 < felda> just
21:10 < felda> slow it down
21:10 < alazare619> Hunterkll:  yea this https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-book/overview
21:10 <+Hunterkll> yes
21:10 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  Microsoft Surface Book | The ultimate laptop. Now more powerful than ever.
21:10 <+Hunterkll> that's a surface book
21:10 <+Hunterkll> there's no pro in the name
21:10 < felda> pretty sure I heard gorilla grunting noises they were flailing the earbuds so hard
21:10 <+Hunterkll> lol
21:11 < alazare619> its nice but i always felt like i was going to break it in half when closing it
21:11 < alazare619> i hate that its not flush
21:11 < alazare619> like if i toss a book in the bag with it i feel like its going to break at the hinge because of that gap
21:11 < coderphive> I just bought stupid.engineering
21:12 < coderphive> First person to find me a picture of Hunterkll's face gets $1000
21:12 < alazare619> will 12 year old Hunterkll's face do?
21:12 <+Hunterkll> LOL
21:12 < alazare619> no joke i haz picture ;)
21:12 <+Hunterkll> coderphive, yea, well, i have retarded.website
21:12 < estranger> god my internet sucks recently
21:13 < estranger> f you comcastic
21:13 < alazare619> SAVING RANDOM PICTURES FROM THE INTERNET HAS FINALLY PAID OFF!
21:13 < catbeard> coderphive: done. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPgytitWsAA8gNd.jpg
21:13 <+layer-eight> * catbeard →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 32,266 bytes
21:14 < coderphive> catbeard tbh that is believable
21:14 <+Hunterkll> alazare619, what you don't have a modern picture of me in my robe and wizard hat?
21:14 < alazare619> i didnt save that one
21:14 <+giant_it_burrit> coderphive: i have a pic
21:14 < alazare619> the picture of you at the table while giving that other girl a handy is what i saved
21:14 <+Hunterkll> lol
21:14 < coderphive> question
21:14 < coderphive> giant_it_burrit share it
21:14 < coderphive> 2
21:15 <+Hunterkll> this is alazare619 https://i.imgur.com/lAIXNzC.png
21:15 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 385,581 bytes
21:15 < coderphive> alazare619 how do you "give a woman a handy"
21:15 < alazare619> something about that picture just made me laugh was going to put some meme text on it but never got it
21:15 <+giant_it_burrit> lets talk my money first
21:15 <+Hunterkll> lol please don't
21:15 < coderphive> I'm willing to Paypal upon receipt of said image
21:15 <+Hunterkll> coderphive, here ya go
21:15 <+Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/MUKJimz.png
21:15 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 336,125 bytes
21:15 <+Hunterkll> robe and wizard hat
21:15 <+Hunterkll> well, white trench coat with armor, but same deal
21:16 <+giant_it_burrit> that isnt you
21:16 <+giant_it_burrit> no cigarette
21:16 <+TuxedoJack> https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/8r1536/my_documents_need_transferring_overmy_documents/
21:16 <+layer-eight> * TuxedoJack →  my documents need transferring over...my documents need transferring over...my documents need transferring over...my documents need transferring over... : talesfromtechsupport
21:16 <+TuxedoJack> JFC, there's a limit to how much of a fucktard you can be before management ruins your shit
21:16 <+Hunterkll> giant_it_burrit, can't smoke inside the convention center in columbus
21:16 <+Hunterkll> lol
21:16 < coderphive> kek
21:16 < alazare619> anyone got the link to that program that compiles vbs scripts to standalone executeables?
21:16 <+Hunterkll> seriously tho this is the only picture we have of alazare619's activities: https://i.imgur.com/WlNBkoH.png
21:16 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 578,676 bytes
21:17 < alazare619> i'm on facebook :P
21:17 < alazare619> giant_it_burrit has me on friends list i know he was like wtf this is AL and here i was thinking he wasn't a 500lb lives in his moms basement guy...but he is proving me wrong
21:17 <+Hunterkll> lol
21:17 <+Hunterkll> giant_it_burrit scrawny just like me
21:18 < officerrando> seriously, one of the best parts of this job is sitting back, "supervising" a remote tech installing/working on software on a clien't server
21:18 < alazare619> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/D5pl66t2/image.png
21:18 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 763,565 bytes
21:18 <+giant_it_burrit> alazare619: was i what you expected?
21:18 < officerrando> i mean, technically i'm working. but i'm really just spacing out.
21:18 < alazare619> there is me
21:18 <+giant_it_burrit> hey boogie
21:18 < alazare619> giant_it_burrit:  yes
21:18 <+giant_it_burrit> :D
21:19 <+Hunterkll> lol
21:19 < alazare619> a loud fucking 👌 ital
21:19 <@cryptic1> is it eod yet?
21:19 <@cryptic1> alazare619, BANT!
21:19 <+Hunterkll> EOD team is en route to cryptic1
21:19 <@cryptic1> this is a safe channel
21:19 <+giant_it_burrit> both Hunterkll and alazare619 know of me
21:19 <@cryptic1> no swearing
21:19 <+Hunterkll> cryptic1 is suspicious package. must dispose
21:19 <@cryptic1> right Hunterkll
21:19 <+giant_it_burrit> flush it
21:19 < asimon> ./flushdns
21:19 < alazare619> cryptic1: doesn't apply you didnt update your TOS with everyone else ;)
21:20 <@cryptic1> its updated
21:20 < alazare619> what are you doing to protect my privacy cryptic1
21:20 <@cryptic1> everyone agreed to our privacy policy change when they joined the channel
21:20 <@cryptic1> its automatic
21:20 <@cryptic1> alazare619, all user information is stored on github
21:20 < asimon> Isn't there something in GDPR about needing an explicit opt in
21:20 <+Hunterkll> yes
21:20 < AnimalFarmPig> we have to accept at the same time we accept the cookie policy?
21:20 < alazare619> in plaintext?
21:20 <+Hunterkll> you didn't read the banner?
21:20 <@cryptic1> alazare619, yes plaintext
21:20 <@cryptic1> safest kind of text
21:20 < alazare619> damn thats secure AF
21:20 <+Hunterkll> "BY CONTINUING TO USE THIS CHANNEL YOU ACCEPT THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS AND PRIVACY SCHMECKLES"
21:21 <@cryptic1> heh
21:21 < alazare619> when trying to be secure everyone knows put it in plain site
21:21 < alazare619> ironically enough i do have a excel sheet on my desktop called passwords.xlsx  just incase i ever get a virus ;)
21:21 <+Hunterkll> oh yea i haven't advertised my site in a while https://www.hugebuttholes.com/
21:21 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Home of #reddit-sysadmin
21:22 <+Hunterkll> oh i got my book that includes CGI now
21:22 <+Hunterkll> the year 2000 revision of the book i was using
21:22 <+Hunterkll> so i'll be able to make a workign guestbok
21:22 <+Hunterkll> instead of shitty broken copy and paste one
21:22 < Hatter> Is anyone here old enough to remember when morphing was all the rage?
21:22 < Hatter> gods we were dumb then
21:22 <+Hunterkll> Hatter, no, THIS is fucking dumb - https://gfycat.com/imperturbablefemininehammerkop
21:22 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Hmmm  GIF | Create, Discover and Share on Gfycat
21:22 < Hatter> someone describe that gif please
21:23 < alazare619> ITS MORPHING TIME!
21:23 < alazare619> can i be a tyranosaurus?
21:23 <+Hunterkll> Hatter, large screen TV hanging out the back of a trump with someone standing on it holding the trunk lid going down the highway
21:23 <+Hunterkll> lol
21:23 <+Hunterkll> ....
21:23 <+Hunterkll> a car
21:23 <+Hunterkll> not a trump
21:23 <+Hunterkll> .....
21:23 < rhqq> xD
21:23 < DomLS3> POL
21:23 < DomLS3> POL
21:24 < DomLS3> I NEED A MOD. HUNTERKLL MENTIONED POTUS
21:24 <+Hunterkll> please don't insert your TV into a trump no matter how wide the cargo zone looks
21:24 <+giant_it_burrit> i need a mod DomLS3 mentioned a poloitic thing
21:24 <+Hunterkll> cryptic1, we need a +m plz
21:24 <+Hunterkll> kthx
21:25 <+giant_it_burrit> ...
21:25 <+Hunterkll> where's the dickbutt
21:25 <@cryptic1> fixed
21:25 <+Hunterkll> goddamnit
21:25 <+giant_it_burrit> Hunterkll got what he wanted?
21:25 <@cryptic1> he left
21:25 <+Hunterkll> :'(
21:25 < catbeard> but he also right
21:25 < asimon> Thank god
21:25 <+Hunterkll> lol
21:25 < asimon> I couldn't breathe
21:25 <@cryptic1> channel too toxic for him
21:25 <+giant_it_burrit> what happened?
21:25 <@cryptic1> drgibby left
21:25 <+giant_it_burrit> o
21:25 <+giant_it_burrit> rip
21:25 <@cryptic1> left freenode afaik
21:26 < rhqq> cryptic1: back to work
21:26 <+giant_it_burrit> commie
21:26 <@cryptic1> D:
21:26 < catbeard> cryptic1: OSINT has it's limits
21:26 <+Hunterkll> lol
21:26 <+Hunterkll> cryptic1 is such a toxic mod
21:26 <@cryptic1> i am literally the worse mod ever
21:27 < catbeard> ya i can't take much more of it, may just return to Gamesurge
21:27 < catbeard> :(
21:27 <@cryptic1> i think its been 5+ years
21:27 < asimon> `yt toxic
21:27 <@cryptic1> something around that
21:27 <+Hunterkll> cryptic1, i dunno, you could have been like DeMiNe0 and regex filtered shit you didn't agree with off your network so they had to use his website
21:27 <+Hunterkll> lol
21:27 < felda> cryptic1 is mad because there are women in the new Battlefield game
21:27 <+Hunterkll> he tried to hijack the scientolgoy protest stuff a few times
21:27 <+Hunterkll> lol
21:27 <@cryptic1> felda hardly I think the rage over that is extremely stupid
21:27 <@cryptic1> who cares
21:28 < felda> damn he didn't take the bait
21:28 <@cryptic1> btw gameplay looks a lot like battlefield bad company 2 which was an awesome game
21:28 < felda> "BUT MUH HISTORICAL ACCURACY"
21:28 <@cryptic1> bleh its a game
21:28 <@cryptic1> supposed to be fun
21:28 <+giant_it_burrit> steam summer sale is coming
21:28 < officerrando> anyone interested in the new fallout being online? i can't quite figure out what that means? not an mmo, per se, right?
21:28 <+giant_it_burrit> brace your wallet and butholes
21:28 < felda> "Remember how BF has always been historically accurate?  This is LITERALLY changing history"
21:28 < catbeard> that K/D ratio though is embarassing
21:28 <@cryptic1> felda haha it never has
21:28 < felda> officerrando I'm excite
21:29 < felda> basically
21:29 < felda> imagine Fallout 4
21:29 < felda> but
21:29 < felda> 32 people
21:29 < felda> up to 4 people per squad
21:29 < felda> doing quests
21:29 < officerrando> I've only played 3...
21:29 < catbeard> bet he plays on beginner then complains that it's too hard, and wonders why games are made if you can't even win them
21:29 < felda> and sometimes interacting with each other
21:29 < officerrando> 4 is new vegas, right?
21:29 < felda> If you guys are curious this shows gameplay and how they made F76
21:29 < officerrando> does the world persist, then? and you all connect into the same one?
21:29 < felda> and a lot of the new features and changes
21:29 < felda> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi8PTAJ2Hjs
21:29 <+layer-eight> * felda →  YouTube → The Making of Fallout 76 - Noclip Documentary → ⚘ 606,399 ↑ 33,294 ↓ 766 ✍ 6,897
21:30 < felda> it is a long video tho
21:30 < officerrando> cool. thx
21:30 <+Hunterkll> felda, REMEMBER HOW HISTORICALLY ACCURATE BF : BAD COMPANY WAS?!?!1
21:30 < felda> about 40 minutes
21:30 <+Hunterkll> oh wait
21:30 <+Hunterkll> that was probably the most accurate
21:30 <+Hunterkll> :/
21:30 < felda> Hunterkll ayyy lmao
21:30 < felda> Hunterkll is just mad he can't roleplay as Nazis
21:30 <+Hunterkll> yay bethesda
21:31 <+Hunterkll> this is a 100% accruate quote about felda "You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons.
21:31 <+Hunterkll> "
21:31 < felda> lol
21:31 < felda> still have not actually seen that movie to be honest tho
21:34 <@cryptic1> felda has not seen back to the future either
21:35 <@cryptic1> felda claims its not historically accurate
21:35 < felda> look I just prefer documentaries over simpleton media
21:37 <+Hunterkll> so you haven't seen the documentary dumb and dumber?
21:37 <+Hunterkll> seems right up your alley
21:37 <@cryptic1> he has not
21:38 < felda> I was sheltered as a child and didn't watch many movies
21:38 <@cryptic1> he did not like how they portrayed his father in that film
21:38 < MillerBOSS> I was sheltered as a child and watched a shit load of movies
21:38 < felda> The only movie I was allowed to watch as a child is Biodome with Pauly Shore which is 100% accurate https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115683/
21:38 <+layer-eight> * felda →  Bio-Dome (1996) - IMDb
21:39 <@cryptic1> felda only watched power rangers growing up
21:39 < felda> it has a 5 out of 5 100% score from me
21:39 < MillerBOSS> Because you lived in a bio dome?
21:39 < felda> cryptic1 I never got to watch power rangers
21:39 < MillerBOSS> Barney?
21:39 < felda> I was only allowed to watch Barney and Rugrats
21:39 < MillerBOSS> LOL
21:39 <@cryptic1> felda only watched she-ra growing up
21:39 < MillerBOSS> Who stole the cookie from the cookie jar?
21:39 < felda> surprisingly nope on that too
21:39 < AnimalFarmPig> if you can only watch one movie, Biodome is a pretty solid choice
21:39 < MillerBOSS> Who stole the cookie from the cookie jar?
21:39 < felda> MillerBOSS has a literal 1 from Metacritic ;_;
21:39 < MillerBOSS> Do it felda
21:39 <@cryptic1> biodome i have not seen that in so long
21:39 < AnimalFarmPig> Pauly Shore's whole oevre is pretty good
21:40 < felda> I like In the Army Now too
21:40 < Hatter> his fucking what
21:40 < AnimalFarmPig> errr... s/oevre/corpus
21:40 < mcj> nicklist fifo
21:40 < AnimalFarmPig> In The Army Now is awesome, also Encino Man
21:40 < mcj> Whoops :)
21:40 < Jekotia> Battlefield goes from Battlefield 1 to Battlefield V... They proved me wrong, they CAN get weirder at naming their releases
21:40 < catbeard> felda: so you didn't get to watch it but you probably WERE the Boy in the Plastic Bubble
21:40 < felda> catbeard I got to see 30 minutes of that movie on the television once
21:40 < felda> they were on some goofy road trip or something
21:41 < AnimalFarmPig> part of the reason I got out of the Army was that I expected "Full Metal Jacket" and instead got "In The Army Now"
21:41 < catbeard> AnimalFarmPig: wrong branch?
21:41 < felda> gotta join the Air Force
21:41 < catbeard> FMJ is marines, not Army
21:41 < AnimalFarmPig> catbeard: ehhh... just not a fan of having my time wasted. I know FMJ is Marines
21:41 < catbeard> kk
21:41 < catbeard> 7
21:41 < catbeard> 6
21:41 < catbeard> 2
21:41 < catbeard> MILLIMETER
21:42 < AnimalFarmPig> FULL
21:42 < catbeard> FULL
21:42 < catbeard> METAL
21:42 < catbeard> JACKET!
21:42 < catbeard> THERE ARE MANY LIKE IT BUT THIS ONE IS MINE
21:42 < AnimalFarmPig> whole thing just felt like a lame fuckaround, tbh
21:42 < catbeard> it is
21:43 < catbeard> and DFAC don't even get me started, i wouldn't feed that shit to my worst enemy
21:44 < catbeard> MREs are ok tho, unless your DS is present, then there's never chicken noodle soup.. but .. it's random tho
21:44 < AnimalFarmPig> I didn't find anything particularly difficult. I did way more "hardcore" stuff and endured worse before the Army. Whole thing was just boring.
21:45 < catbeard> they didn't like me very much, kept poking holes in all of their plans, then calling me up at 4am to finish DS excel homework, DS thinking he's billy badass picks a "fight" one day, and finds out that his excel homework is password protected
21:45 < felda> you guys are lucky
21:45 < felda> I played Battlefield 1 with cryptic1
21:46 < felda> he kept riding around on the horse talking about how he loved it
21:46 < felda> just really weird
21:46 < AnimalFarmPig> I was really really hoping that the next Battlefield would be set in the Spanish Civil War. Nobody makes games about that one. Would have been so cool.
21:46 < AnimalFarmPig> but they decided to make another lame WWII game
21:46 < Alternity> what about the spanish inquistion
21:46 < Alternity> where is that game
21:46 < officerrando> roughing it in the air force is staying at a 3 star hotel when you deploy. :)
21:46 < AnimalFarmPig> it will come when you least expect it, I suspect, Alternity :)
21:47 < abakedapplepie> zing
21:49 < officerrando> altho, these were my deluxe accomidations in 2003 for OEF. https://i.imgur.com/bURvpqT.png
21:49 <+layer-eight> * officerrando →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 1,325,360 bytes
21:49 < officerrando> that's my tent on the right.
21:49 < MillerBOSS> I wish https://tinypng.com/ was a stand alone program
21:49 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  TinyPNG – Compress PNG images while preserving transparency
21:50 < officerrando> but! The female tent for the brits/aussies was directly across to the left. They'd sit out and sunbathe in their bathing suits. #goodtimes
21:51 < AnimalFarmPig> MillerBOSS: ImageMagick?
21:52 < felda> heuheuheueheuheuehuehe
21:52 < AnimalFarmPig> officerrando: looks like a beach holiday!
21:52 < felda> what other annoying and flame war inciting topics can I bring up?
21:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> hmm
21:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> trump?
21:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> EA games?
21:52 < AnimalFarmPig> I heard that the most recent Star Wars movie is controversial
21:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> personal responsibility and the fact taht your actions have concequences?
21:53 < officerrando> AnimalFarmPig: it wasn't that bad. our tents were air conditioned and quite cold. had to shower in a trailer, and brush teeth with bottled water.
21:53 < felda> oh my glob yes
21:53 < felda> do we have a jordan peterson fan in here?!
21:53 < officerrando> McDonaldsWiFi: your libertarian is showing. :)
21:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> 3 billion devices run java?
21:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> officerrando: ;)
21:53 < felda> LMAO McDonaldsWiFi is afraid of roads
21:53 < officerrando> McDonaldsWiFi: are you in ny by chance?
21:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> felda: I HATE them
21:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> officerrando: naw! KY!
21:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> i drive on sidewalks
21:54 < officerrando> been trying to spread the word about larry sharpe to folks in ny.
21:54 < AnimalFarmPig> when libertarianism is discussed, people always bring up roads, but roads actually only account for a very small percentage of government spending in the US-- like less than 1%
21:55 <@JollyRgrs> watching old B&W gameshow...
21:55 <@JollyRgrs> prize is a new 1953 console TV with "surround halo lighting"
21:56 <@ravioli> fancy
21:56 < McDonaldsWiFi> AnimalFarmPig: and dominos is handling that now didnt you hear :D
21:56 < McDonaldsWiFi> huehuehue
21:56 < felda> https://i.imgur.com/pbV3l91.jpg
21:56 <+layer-eight> * felda →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 69,700 bytes
21:56 < officerrando> in before +m
21:56 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8DKPBHsvn4
21:56 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  YouTube → SYLVANIA HALOLIGHT TELEVISION / TV SET COMMERCIAL - 1951 → ⚘ 3,173 ↑ 15 ↓ 0 ✍ 9
21:56 <@JollyRgrs> and these new TVs say they are revolutionary
21:56 < felda> can I get a +v to make fun of anyone who isn't an ENLIGHTENED CENTRIST like me?
21:57 < officerrando> one of my clients is about 20 users, and 17 printers. :-/
21:58 <@JollyRgrs> so buy 3 more printers and no need for any network printing or print server
21:58 <+giant_it_burrit> this guy gets it
21:58 < officerrando> haha
21:59 <@JollyRgrs> https://openip.cam/ if anyone goes there... can you access "Help" on top right of site?
21:59 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  OpenIP.Cam - Open IPC Platform
21:59 <@JollyRgrs> i immediately get account blocked
21:59 < officerrando> blockatiel
22:00 < felda> JollyRgrs notice the web domain changes
22:00 <@JollyRgrs> yeah
22:00 < felda> obviously we aren't fresh enough
22:00 <@JollyRgrs> i assume they are using forums/help as as SaaS
22:00 < felda> lol
22:01 < officerrando> probably a referring thing. like when a tweet gets linked from reddit
22:01 < officerrando> flood/dos protection
22:01 <@JollyRgrs> i just wanna know if i "flash" the camera with the new firmware, can i revert by simply removing the SD Card
22:02 < officerrando> i don't think showing it your junk will have much affect on the sd card.
22:02 <@JollyRgrs> officerrando: my IP is my own and it rarely changes...i dunno why i'd be blocked
22:02 < catbeard> maybe you should copy the firmware first
22:02 < officerrando> JollyRgrs: i mean if the domain changed because it's being referred from that homepage. not that you're spamming it, but all visitors are coming from that ip
22:03 <@JollyRgrs> catbeard: this camera isn't really made for all this fancy stuff... so not sure the process to flash back
22:03 < coderphive> You should override the firmware with the source code for pong
22:03 < coderphive> js
22:03 < catbeard> officerrando: sounds like a reverse proxy ip translation issue
22:03 <@JollyRgrs> officerrando: ah, so maybe that site itself is blocked (or they didn't renew their subscription to it, lol)
22:04 < officerrando> correct.
22:06 <@JollyRgrs> ooh, modern marvels on the cpu/microchip/etc
22:06 < MillerBOSS> ImageMagick, OK thanks AnimalFarmPig Will check her out.
22:08 < coderphive>  @JollyRgrs that's a saas
22:09 < coderphive> It's one of the helpdesk ones
22:09 < officerrando> Miller, i used imagemagik once to shring 860 GB of TIFF files down to about 16 GB of PDFs. dropped the dpi, and max page size. all in a batch/command prompt
22:09 < catbeard> that's a paddlin'
22:09 <@JollyRgrs> officerrando: nice
22:09 < coderphive> @JollyRgrs freshdesk
22:09 < catbeard> pngcrush and jpegoptim do that too
22:10 < abakedapplepie> imagemagick is neat
22:10 < catbeard> ya convert binary
22:10 < catbeard> it's like the ffmpeg for pix
22:10 < abakedapplepie> used to use it to generate web images from my camera looong before the likes of imgur made it so easy to paste a picture on the internet
22:11 < coderphive> I had a friend that captured images of his desktop and uploaded them to his website on a script
22:11 < coderphive> It was kinda cool til inappropriate images popped up one day
22:11 < catbeard> ^ was waiting for that
22:11 < coderphive> We all found out very weird things about him
22:11 < abakedapplepie> Dad, stop using my computer for porn
22:12 < abakedapplepie> the internet can see
22:12 <@JollyRgrs> lol
22:12 < catbeard> coderphive: that horses are very beautiful animals until you make them angry?
22:12 < officerrando> JollyRgrs: yeah, this company's secretary was scaning in every receipt/invoice/check going in/out for years. scanner was set to like 1200 DPI TIFFs. 24 MB each. dropped them to about 160k PDFs.
22:12 < MillerBOSS> Wow, OK, officerrando. Thanks. Do you have your commands shred anywhere?
22:12 <@JollyRgrs> officerrando: geez
22:12 < coderphive> catbeard well, the horses feelings were debatable
22:12 <@JollyRgrs> yeah, B&W text could easily be compressed
22:12 <@JollyRgrs> lol
22:12 < MillerBOSS> s/shred/shared
22:12 <+layer-eight> [SED MillerBOSS] Wow, OK, officerrando. Thanks. Do you have your commands shared anywhere?
22:12 < abakedapplepie> officerrando holy fuck
22:13 < GreyKite> if you escalate something to me and ask me to make it a priority, it damn well better be your fucking priority
22:13 < abakedapplepie> where were they storing all that
22:13 < officerrando> abakedapplepie: they were a small company with no document management system. they sold office furniture
22:13 < abakedapplepie> gee willickers
22:13 < officerrando> MillerBOSS: here's the thread i used to fiddle with the settings until i got them right using test images: http://www.imagemagick.org/discourse-server/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=23225
22:13 < catbeard> owncloud to the rescue
22:13 <+layer-eight> * officerrando →  TIFF to PDF with compression - ImageMagick
22:13 < abakedapplepie> like... she just needs a scansnap
22:13 < abakedapplepie> lol
22:13 < coderphive> GreyKite we strip tickets of all indication of priority after submission and leave only a field called "Business Impact"
22:14 < catbeard> coderphive: might be urgent but it's not important lol
22:14 < GreyKite> coderphive: this was directly escalated to my manager who gave it to me
22:14 < abakedapplepie> lol
22:14 < coderphive> recently had a baby boomer get quite mad about that
22:14 < catbeard> coderphive: THIS MEANS NOW YOU MILLINIAL NON TAX PAYING DWEEB
22:14 < officerrando> abakedapplepie: this was years ago. they didn't have those then.
22:14 < coderphive> she didn't understand how priorities don't translate across business units
22:14 < GreyKite> coderphive: that's the thing, this is a pretty big business impacting issue
22:15 < coderphive> catbeard basically. I've heard similar sounding remarks from her.
22:15 < MillerBOSS> Thanks officerrando. I doubt this is something a user can use on their own? Like dropping some files in a folder root/orig and root/compressed become the new place folder for compressed files? Was thinking of doing this in a shared folder from a server
22:15 <@JollyRgrs> so.... TIL... steve wozniak organized a rock festival... lol
22:15 < coderphive> JollyRgrs he also organized a school
22:16 <@JollyRgrs> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Festival
22:16 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  US Festival - Wikipedia
22:16 < officerrando> MillerBOSS: you could put the command into a scheduled task that compressed all the images, and deleted the originals after running. or compress in place (don't make a copy) and then move them to their final folder
22:16 < MillerBOSS> Yeah that is a good idea.
22:16 < officerrando> then you'd just drop images in, the task would run, and spit them into the destination folder.
22:16 < MillerBOSS> Good call.
22:16 < officerrando> just be sure to document it well in the task and maybe also in the folder in a text file. (only compress specific file formats, excluding TXT)
22:17 < coderphive> also, TFW you realize that the Linux kernel would be even more powerful than it is if it wasn't a monolith
22:17 < coderphive> rip
22:17 < MillerBOSS> Right
22:17 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: it's ok, systemd is becoming the new monolith
22:17 < SynMonger> how are you supposed to evolve without a monolith?
22:17 < GreyKite> ....wait
22:17 < GreyKite> wait
22:17 < coderphive> I actually heard someone refer to systemd as an OS the other day
22:18 < GreyKite> coderphive: well, all it's missing is a kernel at this point, right?
22:18 < SynMonger> ha
22:18 < GreyKite> I'm waiting for kerneld to drop
22:18 < coderphive> I think that was the irony I noticed
22:19 < coderphive> Linux Monolith + SystemD monolith = super_structure.h
22:19 < coderphive> change my mind
22:21 < namol> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/security-center/advisory/intel-sa-00145.html
22:21 < namol> lol
22:21 <+layer-eight> * namol →  INTEL-SA-00145
22:21 < coderphive> I also heard an engineer refer to multiple kubernetes stacks as "kuberneteses"
22:22 < coderphive> like, respectable sentient life around me is slowly becoming less respectable
22:23 <@JollyRgrs> LOL
22:23 <@JollyRgrs> this dude's name...
22:23 <@JollyRgrs> Harry McCrackin
22:23 < GreyKite> coderphive: we don't really have that around here
22:23 < officerrando> better than phil...
22:23 < asimon> Almost as good as Carlos Danger
22:23 < GreyKite> I wouldn't even call myself respecable
22:24 < coderphive> There's some respectable folks here
22:24 < coderphive> Then there's cryptic1
22:24 < GreyKite> there was a respectable Unix admin, but he retired
22:25 < xamithan> Are brocoders not respectable?
22:25 < GreyKite> ...also, I misspelled respectable when referring to myself, classic
22:25 < coderphive> Technically a brogrammer is just a sexist, frat house programmer
22:25 < coderphive> so idk
22:25 < coderphive> u tell me fam
22:26 < Sousapro> what's the syadmin version of a brogrammer?
22:26 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: not to be confused as a programmar
22:26 < Sousapro> s/syadmin/sysadmin
22:26 <@JollyRgrs> or a brogrammar
22:26 <+layer-eight> [SED Sousapro] what's the sysadmin version of a brogrammer?
22:26 < AnimalFarmPig> I think the brogrammer is a myth
22:26 < officerrando> i'm programmar
22:26 < coderphive> JollyRgrs broception
22:26 < coderphive> bromin
22:26 < Sousapro> bradmin
22:26 < AnimalFarmPig> Most programmers I know are geeks/nerds/whatever, not the stereotypical bro
22:26 < coderphive> o. shi
22:26 < xamithan> I've heard of brogrammers in CA
22:27 < AnimalFarmPig> sysadman
22:27 < coderphive> bradmin
22:27 < xamithan> And whatever they call those "bitcoin bros"
22:27 < coderphive> that was just
22:27 < coderphive> whew
22:27 < ibttis> chadmin coderphive
22:27 < ibttis> lawl
22:27 < coderphive> o fuck
22:27 < coderphive> stahp
22:27 < AnimalFarmPig> there might be bros in management or administrative things, but writing code? not so much
22:27 < Sousapro> bradmin brings in natty ice during crunch week
22:27 < coderphive> AnimalFarmPig I agree
22:27 < officerrando> buddy of mine calls those big trucks they drive "brodozers"
22:27 < coderphive> AnimalFarmPig hence, Uber
22:27 < AnimalFarmPig> ^
22:27 < ibttis> virgin data administrator vs chadmin
22:28 < coderphive> honestly can we vote on title now?
22:28 < AnimalFarmPig> chadmin++
22:28 < coderphive> 1 = bromin, 2 = bradmin, 3 = chadmin
22:28 < coderphive> let the voting begin
22:28 < coderphive> 3
22:29 < ibttis> im a chadmin im too cool to vote
22:29 < xamithan> chadmin sounds like a europeon thing though
22:29 < coderphive> tbh it sounds like an evolution
22:29 < AnimalFarmPig> 3
22:29 < ibttis> it's the chad meme transformed into a chadmin
22:29 < ibttis> xamithan:
22:30 < ibttis> chadmeme chadmin
22:30 < Sousapro> who would name their child chad?
22:30 <@ravioli> it's short for charles
22:30 < Sousapro> I mean, you just want them to be juggalos at that point
22:30 < ibttis> chadrick
22:30 < ibttis> the pussy crusher
22:30 <@ravioli> also you're all nerds who probably smell.
22:30 < coderphive> "Tom started out as a lowly sys admin until he began 'drinking with the boys', to which he grew into a bromin, devolved into a bradmin after his fifth bar fight over whether Linux is actually a branch of Unix, and quickly became a chadmin after discovering axe body spray and cocaine"
22:31 < Sousapro> ravioli: I bathe regularly
22:31 < Sousapro> :P
22:31 < Sousapro> not going to debate the first part
22:31 < Sousapro> we're on IRC
22:31 < Sousapro> automatically nerds
22:31 < coderphive> Anyone with a SASL connection or bouncer is automatically a nerd
22:31 < coderphive> change my mind
22:32 < BronzeEagle> don't assume my connections
22:32 < technonerd> Don't assume my. Ssl cert
22:33 <+Hunterkll> what about vadgmins
22:34 < coderphive> Hunterkll = chadmin
22:34 < technonerd> That's a gynecologist
22:34 < coderphive> Chadmin the Mangaslayer
22:35 < officerrando> later on, dirty dogs
22:35 < catbeard> coderphive: not that there's anything wrong with SASL (or CertFP)
22:36 < ibttis> chadmin le mayne
22:36 < catbeard> xamithan: you're thinking of chattr, it's for white trash and europeans
22:36 < xamithan> chavmin
22:36 < coderphive> ibttis lmao
22:37 < coderphive> I'm going to name my new kubernetes cluster "chadmin"
22:37 < coderphive> disgusting.
22:37 < xamithan> Name your edgerouter chadmin so everyone can see it
22:37 < catbeard> i'm gonna change the wording on our IDS block page to be "You have been bloked"
22:37 < catbeard> Chav a nice day!
22:38 < xamithan> Then post it in /r/punny?
22:38 < catbeard> no just sit back and do what i normally do
22:38 < catbeard> watch NCIS on work time
22:39 < coderphive> ncis is bad
22:39 < coderphive> imho
22:39 < catbeard> joeym26_: you need a handle.  may i suggest DrDoom, UltraLaser ?
22:39 < xamithan> I've never seen it,  but there is too many of those crime shows out there
22:40 < coderphive> Chadinator
22:40 < xamithan> Whatever is playing on investigation discovery is the good shit
22:40 < coderphive> Charanataurus Rex
22:41  * SpeakerToMeat sighs
22:41 < Hatter> I think I'll treat myself to a 15 minute early departure
22:42 < Hatter> you suckers have fun alright
22:42 <+SpeakerToMeat> cryptic1: I need to hand my IT card
22:42 <@cryptic1> Hand it in
22:42 <@cryptic1> Then bant!
22:44 < alazare619>  /msg chanserv kick cryptic1
22:45 < coderphive> kick?
22:45 < coderphive> Might as well ban
22:45 < coderphive>  /finger cryptic1
22:46 < alazare619> what is this a mud?
22:47 < felda> lmao devs of pf made haikus
22:47 < felda> https://home.nuug.no/~peter/pf/en/pfhaiku.html
22:47 <+layer-eight> * felda →  PF - Haiku
22:47 <+SpeakerToMeat> cryptic1: I made such a stupid mistake :(
22:49 <@JollyRgrs> so i have a signature pad that i acquired from somewhere
22:50 <@JollyRgrs> Topaz t-lbk462-hsb
22:50 <+SpeakerToMeat> JollyRgrs: ohh nice
22:50 <@JollyRgrs> it seems to go anywhere frmo 99 to 360 USD
22:50 <@JollyRgrs> i want to sell it
22:50 <@JollyRgrs> also b/c it shows up as $300 doesn't mean it sells for that, obviously
22:51 < GreyKite> those topaz pads can be buggy little shits
22:51 <@JollyRgrs> GreyKite: idgaf if someone buys it from me :P
22:51 < GreyKite> they either work flawlessly or are absolute shite
22:51 < alazare619> JollyRgrs:  did it "fall off the back of a truck"
22:51 < coderphive> JollyRgrs I'll buy it for tree fiddy
22:51 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: sold!
22:51 <@JollyRgrs> $150 S&H
22:51 < coderphive> rip
22:51 < coderphive> fine print
22:51 < grumplestiltzkin> JollyRgrs: but you could keep it and use it to caprute signatures at your homelab
22:52 <@JollyRgrs> sure, i'll caprute all the sigs :P
22:52 < coderphive> You should make a signature your windows password
22:52 <@JollyRgrs> grumplestiltzkin: at first i thought it might be nice to do that
22:52 < alazare619> i have a wacom tab
22:52 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: har
22:53 <@JollyRgrs> how much hassel is it to sell on ebay?
22:53 < genr8_> nope
22:53 < alazare619> https://www.creativebloq.com/app-design/how-turn-your-phone-graphics-tablet-81516348
22:53 < coderphive> I recently sold a safe keypad PLC
22:53 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  How to turn your phone into a graphics tablet | Creative Bloq
22:53 < grumplestiltzkin> actually, if it works, I might be interested in buying.
22:54 < coderphive> grumplestiltzkin as JollyRgrs's representation: starting bid is $500
22:54 < coderphive> js
22:54 <+SpeakerToMeat> JollyRgrs: Search it on ebay, and set the filter to "finished", that is, it was bought
22:55 < genr8_> get one of these for $55 .. its got a 10 point multitouch screen with detachable tablet and pretty decent of machine for the price https://www.ebay.com/itm/Insignia-Flex-2-in-1-Tablet-NS-P11W7100-11-6-32GB-Windows-10-W-KBD-Fair-Cond/263757618539
22:55 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  Insignia Flex 2-in-1 Tablet NS-P11W7100 11.6'' 32GB Windows 10 W/ KBD Fair Cond. 600603203909 | eBay
22:56 <@JollyRgrs> SpeakerToMeat: WHERE IS THAT FILTER AT?
22:56 <+SpeakerToMeat> hmmm
22:57 < alazare619> https://www.amazon.com/Huion-Graphics-Drawing-Tablet-Board/dp/B00TB0TTAC/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1529009808&sr=1-5&keywords=wacom+tablet&dpID=51KRz3Z6K5L&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch theres the wacom tablet i have
22:57 < alazare619> its a knock off but its really good and cheap
22:57 < felda> that's the one I have :D
22:57 < felda> I mostly use it to draw big penises while playing Roll20.net which is online Dungeons & Dragons and you can draw
22:57 < genr8_> interesting
22:57 < GreyKite> felda: a good use
22:57 <+SpeakerToMeat> JollyRgrs: On the left bar, "show only..." "sold items"
22:58 <@JollyRgrs> i see it now, i had to change something by the "Advanced" option next to the search button on top first
22:58 <+SpeakerToMeat> JollyRgrs: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Topaz+t-lbk462-hsb&_sacat=0&LH_Complete=1
22:58 <+layer-eight> * SpeakerToMeat →  Topaz t-lbk462-hsb | eBay
22:58 <+SpeakerToMeat> JollyRgrs: I see solds in all the range from $60 to $160
22:58 <@JollyRgrs> yeah
22:59 <+SpeakerToMeat> Mind you I only know this because I just discovered return.pallet reseller channels in youtube
22:59 <+SpeakerToMeat> People who buy pallets of mixed returns and sell them on ebay
23:00 < Casteil> chipmunkPopulation -= 3;
23:00 < alazare619> lmao
23:00 < alazare619> that sounds like a terrible idea
23:00 < alazare619> you should do that SpeakerToMeat and tell me how you do
23:02 <+SpeakerToMeat> Yeah because I live in the best place to do that
23:02 <+SpeakerToMeat> If someone tries to build a pallet of "returns" as soon as they drive it out the door hordes of homeless and hungry peopel descend and rip everythign appart
23:03 < xamithan> Why would anyone ever sell on ebay.  You could ship out a laptop and they'd return their old laptop in urine poop filed diapers and they'd still the refund case
23:04 < grumplestiltzkin> SpeakerToMeat: wat   - how would the hordes know what's inside your truck?   like, even in the bed of a pickup, put a tarp over it
23:05 < grumplestiltzkin> you could glue some glitter to the laptop and sell it on etsy
23:09 <+Hunterkll> wow
23:10 <+Hunterkll> i fo und out where JollyRgrs buys his cars https://www.yellowpages.com/troy-mi/mip/f-a-g-automotive-1133120
23:10 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  F A G Automotive 1750 E Big Beaver Rd, Troy, MI 48083 - YP.com
23:10 < GreyKite> fucking shit, I"m glad it exists but man
23:10 < GreyKite> this fucker knew what he was doing
23:10 <+Hunterkll> FAAAAAAG AUTOMOTIVE YOU DON'T JUST BUY A CAR YOU BUY A PUNISHHHEERRRR
23:11 <@JollyRgrs> lol
23:11 <+Hunterkll> 2 ft long
23:11 < GreyKite> Hunterkll: on Big Beaver Rd
23:11 <+Hunterkll> 4 inches wide
23:11 <+Hunterkll> its
23:11 <+Hunterkll> the
23:11 <+Hunterkll> PUNISHER
23:11 <+Hunterkll> now available at a sex shop or JollyRgrs near you
23:12 < grumplestiltzkin> Hunterkll: you can be the first to leave a review
23:12 < grumplestiltzkin> something like "they were  FABULOUS" would be apt
23:16 < coderphive> #reddit-cisadmin
23:18 <+Hunterkll> uh
23:18 <+Hunterkll> what the fuck
23:18 <+Hunterkll> i just read something even i wont' paste here
23:19 < coderphive> ?
23:19 <+Hunterkll> it involves anal licking and tapeworm nuzzling
23:19 < coderphive> woof
23:22 < MillerBOSS> Are you getting this yet Hunterkll https://www.techmeme.com/180614/p21#a180614p21 ?
23:22 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Techmeme: Microsoft begins rolling out Redstone 5 preview of Windows 10 to Insiders with SwiftKey support on desktop, new gaming features, and more (Tom Warren/The Verge)
23:23 <+Hunterkll> i will when i reboot i suppose?
23:26 < joelazot> hello friends
23:26 < joelazot> meme teen / retard is back
23:29 <@JollyRgrs> oh man... thanks goodness for ZipLock's seals
23:29 <@JollyRgrs> found a ziplock of my Christmas stocking contents from my dad's family... it includes an apple and a tangerine
23:30 <@JollyRgrs> ... there was a lot of dark brown juice all in the bag, needless to say
23:30 < BronzeEagle> is that what the kids are calling it now-a-days?
23:30 <+Hunterkll> i used to call it "what was left on the sheets after fuckin' my cousin"
23:30 <@JollyRgrs> OMG... a new webtv....
23:30 < xamithan> Did you eat it
23:30 <+Hunterkll> but whatever
23:30 <+Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, ?
23:30 <+Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, MSN TV was discontinued in 2013
23:31 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkEjwon64TM
23:31 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  YouTube → Telikin Touchscreen Computer → ⚘ 24,060 ↑ 87 ↓ 11 ✍ 12
23:31 <+Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, that's ... from .... 2010....
23:32 <+Hunterkll> predates the shutdown of webtv
23:32 <+Hunterkll> and it's not a webtv t all
23:32 < coderphive> Reminds me of a raspberry pi
23:32 <+Hunterkll> it's more like a childrens tablet
23:32 <+Hunterkll> for the elderly
23:32 <+Hunterkll> coderphive, ?!?!!? how?!?!
23:32 <+Hunterkll> it reminds me of an OSX 10.2 ripoff with a launcher in the front
23:32 <+Hunterkll> lol
23:32 < coderphive> you've never seen those touch interfaces you can throw on an rpi?
23:33 <+Hunterkll> they're kind of small....
23:33 < coderphive> You're right though, it does remind me of one of those kids tablets
23:33 <+Hunterkll> this doesn't remind me of an rpi at all
23:33 <+Hunterkll> an rpi reminds me of frustration and buying new ones when i throw them into the wall for being fucking useless
23:33 < coderphive> sick web browser too
23:33 <+Hunterkll> then switching to beaglebone and being happy as fuck
23:33 <+Hunterkll> they have their own laptop version
23:33 < coderphive> that's because you're bad at embedded linux
23:33 <+Hunterkll> http://www.telikin.com/
23:33 < coderphive> rip
23:33 <+Hunterkll> lol
23:33 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Telikin : Simple, Easy to Use Touchscreen Computers for Seniors
23:33 <+Hunterkll> coderphive, if anything beaglebone would be harder
23:34 <+Hunterkll> what i'm bad at is using shitty design-compromised hardware
23:34 <+Hunterkll> dear god
23:34 <+Hunterkll> look at their elite computer
23:34 <+Hunterkll> $1079
23:34 <+Hunterkll> J1900 celeron quad core
23:34 <+Hunterkll> 2GB DDR3 ram
23:34 <+Hunterkll> 32GB SSD
23:35 <+Hunterkll> how the fuck can that thing even power hdmi out
23:35 < xamithan> good de3al
23:35 <+Hunterkll> lmao
23:35 < coderphive> beagle bone is more powerful
23:35 < coderphive> It's far easier
23:35 <+Hunterkll> coderphive, my beaglebone blacks are far less powerful than a pi2 or pi3
23:35 < coderphive> I haven't touched either
23:35 <+Hunterkll> but they have better hardware
23:35 <+Hunterkll> better ethernet/usb controllers
23:35 <+Hunterkll> etc
23:35 < coderphive> beaglebones ran linux way better than rpi1
23:36 <+Hunterkll> real ethernet, instad of usb ethernet
23:36 <+Hunterkll> coderphive, i also wasn't using linux, but that's neither here nor there ;)
23:36 < coderphive> u r just mad
23:36 <+Hunterkll> seriously though, if it wasn't throughput, it was i/o locks when using the SD and USB at once, etc...
23:36 <+Hunterkll> the design of the rpi just sucks
23:36 <+Hunterkll> even intel managed to do better
23:36 <+NinjaStyle> hey guys, linux question, i am pretty sure i know the answer, but i wanted to run it by you
23:37 < coderphive> Hunterkll has nothing to do with the rpi
23:37 < coderphive> Hunterkll anything using SD will do that
23:37 <+Hunterkll> coderphive, er, that has everything to do with the rpi and how the internal periphreals were implemented
23:37 <+Hunterkll> coderphive, no, it's explicitly an RPi problem i'm talking about that isn't seen on other platforms.
23:37 <+NinjaStyle> how many virtual nics can i create in linux for tagging to separate vlans? is there a limit?
23:37 <+Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, 640k
23:37 <+NinjaStyle> rly?
23:37 <+Hunterkll> ....
23:37 < xamithan> whatever limit your distro|software sets
23:37 <+Hunterkll> nobody needs more
23:37 < grumplestiltzkin> celeries are still a thing?
23:37 < AnimalFarmPig> I've been thinking of picking up some of those hardkernel 8 core SBC's
23:38 <+Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, nobody needs more than 640k
23:38 <+Hunterkll> ....
23:38 <+Hunterkll> -_-
23:38 < coderphive> Hunterkll kek, it's something that happens on all embedded hardware
23:38 < coderphive> Hunterkll you design around it
23:38 <+Hunterkll> coderphive, no, it's a shared bus issue on the pi
23:38 < coderphive> lol k
23:38 <+Hunterkll> beaglebone's ethernet PHY isn't on the same bus so it doesn't have that issue
23:38 < alazare619> AnimalFarmPig:  do they have mini pci-e?
23:38 < coderphive> lol k
23:38 <+Hunterkll> RPi2 and RPi3 mostly solved it by having more CPU cores to throw at it
23:38 < coderphive> lol k
23:38 < AnimalFarmPig> alazare619: I don't think so, but let me double check
23:38 < GreyKite> lol k
23:39 < catbeard> n e MDI-X on rpi
23:39 <+Hunterkll> coderphive, throughput from the ethernet to the SD card runs at rate limit of the SD card, on the Pi it does not.
23:39 <+Hunterkll> On the pi, writing to SD card while running ethernet also kills USB connected HDD performance
23:39 <+Hunterkll> on the black it does not
23:39 < xamithan> I think 255 is the limit actually,  or 256
23:39 < coderphive> it has to do with the design of the board my mans
23:39 < AnimalFarmPig> alazare619: no, I don't see it listed
23:39 < coderphive> you keep talking but not listening
23:39 <+Hunterkll> coderphive, that's exactly what i'm saying it is
23:39 <+Hunterkll> the RPi is a shitty board design
23:39 <+Hunterkll> the ethernet is stuck on USB with a shitload of other odd things
23:40 < coderphive> lol k
23:40 <+Hunterkll> how is that not board design?
23:40 < coderphive> When you're done and ready to hear something I'll explain it to you
23:40 <+Hunterkll> the fact that an rpi even claims to have gigabit ethernet at all is a joke tho
23:40 <+Hunterkll> sure, go ahead, explain whatevs
23:40 < alazare619> AnimalFarmPig:  shame if i could find an 8core SBC with mini pci-e id be super happy
23:40 < alazare619> right now espressobin is hte only i'm finding close to it
23:40 < AnimalFarmPig> alazare619: yeah, that would be cool. What kinds of things would you hook up to it?
23:41 <+Hunterkll> (though i've never actually thrown an rpi into a wall. they went out of a trebuchet running a sensor package that never worked quite right)
23:41 < alazare619> mini pci-e sata controller for 4 drives
23:41 <+NinjaStyle> could i create 50 virtual interfaces, each tagged to a different vlan in linux?
23:41 < AnimalFarmPig> ahhhh, nice
23:41 < dragonfleas> wow
23:41 < dragonfleas> so
23:41 < coderphive> NinjaStyle depending on the kernel there appears to be no limit on the number of interface aliases
23:41 <+Hunterkll> iirc it was actually a kernel configurable option
23:41 <+Hunterkll> at one point
23:41 < AnimalFarmPig> alazare619: why not a mini-itx x86 mobo?
23:41 < coderphive> Hunterkll pre 2.2
23:41 < dragonfleas> group policy got corrupted on one DC before I upgraded our environment to a 2012 r2 funcational level, and i guess it replicated the broken group policy objects to all DC's
23:42 < dragonfleas> so i just spent 4 hours recreated the GPO's
23:42 <+Hunterkll> coderphive, 2.2/2.4 used to be my jam back in '03 >:3
23:42 <+Hunterkll> lol
23:42 < AnimalFarmPig> alazare619: I think my baytrail-d boxes draw less power than the odroid xu4
23:42 < dragonfleas> everything works though
23:42 <+Hunterkll> jesus
23:42 < alazare619> cost mainly
23:42 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, i deal with hell at work
23:42 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, you just need to take a shotgun to your environment already
23:42 < dragonfleas> yep
23:42 <+NinjaStyle> coderphive: do you think i should be able to create 50 virtual nics?
23:42 <+Hunterkll> or yourself for jsut doing things wtihout proper verification and documentation
23:42 < dragonfleas> group policy is working now
23:42 < dragonfleas> I finally have DCDIAG's passing all tests
23:42 < coderphive> NinjaStyle your hardware may actually impose some limits even if the kernel doesn't though
23:42 < alazare619> https://shop.kobol.io/ i've been keeping my eye on
23:42 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  Helios4                      – Kobol Shop
23:42 < coderphive> NinjaStyle I suppose you could
23:43 <+Hunterkll> I know Xen does some crazy aliasing and other stuff with xenbr's
23:43 < dragonfleas> except for enterpriseobjects test, but that's because replication has a lot of latency due to our sites being far apart
23:43 < coderphive> NinjaStyle I've never really tried it, but I suspect others have done it
23:43 <+Hunterkll> coderphive, but anyway, how is ethernet and usb not a design issue that i can have problems with
23:43 <+NinjaStyle> yeah i was hoping someone would jump in say they do it all the time
23:43 < AnimalFarmPig> alazare619: check out boards with soldered intel embedded CPU's. I paid between $30 and $70 for mine. AMD also used to make some nice AM1 chipset motherboards and processors, but I think they're no longer available.
23:43 < coderphive> Hunterkll it has to do with the RPI not being made to be a full blown SOC
23:43 < AnimalFarmPig> not much more than an SBC
23:44 < alazare619> https://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G151794765828
23:44 < AnimalFarmPig> just need to add RAM, and maybe a PSU if there's no DC-DC onboard
23:44 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  ODROID | Hardkernel
23:44 < alazare619> 32 cores 8 gb of ram for 50 bucks
23:44 < alazare619> WTF
23:44 < coderphive> NinjaStyle I remember we did something of the sort when I worked in hosting
23:44 < coderphive> NinjaStyle tbh that's not done that way anymore I don't think
23:44 < AnimalFarmPig> 2 GB of RAM
23:44 <+NinjaStyle> how else would you do it?
23:45 < AnimalFarmPig> 8 cores and 2 GB for $50. If you want 32 cores and 8 GB, you need 4x
23:45 < coderphive> NinjaStyle well, just about everything in hosting supports virtualhosts now
23:45 < coderphive> NinjaStyle this was pre-virtualhosts
23:45 <+NinjaStyle> oh i see
23:46 < coderphive> per RedHat's docs 2.2 changed interfaces and IP's to a linked list, so there is no limit other than the memory consumption to traverse the list
23:46 < dragonfleas> I want a mini ESXI host
23:46 < dragonfleas> anybody have any ideas?
23:46 < dragonfleas> like a super small form factor PC that I can make a high ram decent ESXI host
23:46 < DomLS3> dragonfleas: or just do Hyper-V for free
23:46 < dragonfleas> for at home
23:46 < alazare619> AnimalFarmPig: is the baytrail the j1900?
23:46 < coderphive> just do kubernetes
23:46 < dragonfleas> DomLS3, esxi is free if you use the internet ;)
23:46 < coderphive> and setup gluster
23:46 < coderphive> for funsies
23:46 < alazare619> i'm not familiar with intels soldered chips
23:47 <+Hunterkll> coderphive, damn, i can't find a spec sheet for BCM2837B0 but I recall there being a way to do ethernet without USB with it
23:47 < AnimalFarmPig> alazare619: yeah, J1900. It's pretty old. There's newer generation now, and I don't recall their model names
23:47 < AnimalFarmPig> alazare619: N3xxx, iirc
23:47 <+Hunterkll> but the pi3 used a 2.0 to gig anyway
23:47 <+Hunterkll> for cost
23:47 < coderphive> Hunterkll there probably is, any tinkering board generally has workarounds
23:47 <+Hunterkll> coderphive, i'm meaning the SOC itself
23:47 <+Hunterkll> i know the pi1 couldn't at all, with its earlier SOC
23:47 < coderphive> Hunterkll our devices run micro-c linux so we're familiar with these kinds of issues
23:47 <+Hunterkll> well, unless you want to run ethernet over i2c
23:48 <+Hunterkll> >_>
23:48 < AnimalFarmPig> alazare619: also, thta kobol thing reminds me of this-- https://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G150575879656   or, if you only need one drive  https://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G151505170472
23:48 <+layer-eight> * AnimalFarmPig →  ODROID | Hardkernel
23:48 <+layer-eight> * AnimalFarmPig →  ODROID | Hardkernel
23:48 < coderphive> Hunterkll the best thing to do if you want a full blown computer is to buy an actual SOC
23:48 < dragonfleas> I wanna put vsphere on a home PC
23:48 < spacecrab> Hey JollyRgrs nice to see you're still around
23:48 < spacecrab> @dragonfleas use proxmox instead
23:48 < coderphive> rpi1 was not an _actual_ soc
23:48 < dragonfleas> what the fuck is proxmox
23:48 <+Hunterkll> how do you define 'actual'
23:48 < xamithan> software
23:49 < dragonfleas> doex proxmox have a web interface?
23:49 <+NinjaStyle> coderphive: im gonna just test it really fast
23:49 < spacecrab> a nice wrapper for kvm and linux containers that has a programmatically friendly interface for stuff like proxmox still. basically everything you want in vmware except not bullshit licensing
23:49 < dragonfleas> does proxmox have a dedicated client?
23:49 < spacecrab> yes, no
23:49 < xamithan> webguiii
23:49 < dragonfleas> ok so it's all web based
23:49 < dragonfleas> cool
23:49 < spacecrab> correct
23:49 < dragonfleas> sounds cool
23:49 < dragonfleas> I will try it
23:49 <+Hunterkll> spacecrab, so it has fault tolerant VMs? VSan like functionality? Virtual TPMs?
23:49 < spacecrab> def check it out. you can burn the iso to a usb or install it directly on top of proxmox
23:49 < AnimalFarmPig> dragonfleas: I ran ESXi on a Sempron 3850 + 16 GB of RAM box + Intel quad GigE for a while. It was cheap, drew very little power, and ran fine
23:49 < coderphive> NinjaStyle should be easy enough to test w/ bash
23:49 <+Hunterkll> spacecrab, please note that fault tolerant VMs are NOT THE SAME as high availability VMs
23:49 < coderphive> NinjaStyle just do it with local IP's
23:49 < joelazot> so when my server arrives i'm gonna setup KVM on a RHEL or CentOS install and use kimichi and integrate FreeIPA with it
23:50 <+NinjaStyle> coderphive: yeah i just bash looped create 50
23:50 < coderphive> NinjaStyle that'll be kinda lulzy lolol
23:50 < alazare619> AnimalFarmPig: do you know if those m2 intel embedded that are listed as m2 wifi can actually boot off a m2 port?
23:50 < joelazot> anything wrong with my plan?
23:50 < dragonfleas> what do you guys think of this?
23:50 < dragonfleas> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-R510-2x-Xeon-L5640-2-26ghz-Hex-Core-32gb-12x-Trays-H700/232796676848?hash=item3633c362f0:g:P1QAAOSwX7JbGCSs
23:50 <+layer-eight> * dragonfleas →  Dell PowerEdge R510 2x Xeon L5640 2.26ghz Hex Core / 32gb / 12x Trays / H700  | eBay
23:50 < spacecrab> nah it doesn't have fault tolerant VMs @Hunterkll, but for someone who is installing esxi on a home computer i dont think he's really looking for that
23:50 < spacecrab> also licensing is bullshit
23:50 <+Hunterkll> spacecrab, last time i looked at proxmox a few months ago, it was still pathetic compared to even Citrix XenServer
23:51 < dragonfleas> pretty decent for an H700
23:51 <+Hunterkll> spacecrab, licensing is thepiratebay.org
23:51 < spacecrab> hahahha
23:51 < dragonfleas> but it doesn't have idrac enterprise :(
23:51 < spacecrab> iirc vCSA is going to cockblock you on trying to bypass licensing
23:51 < AnimalFarmPig> alazare619: I don't know. I've got five J1900 and J1800 boxes at home working as various appliances. I haven't really followed the Intel embedded stuff since then. I think if it just lists wifi then you're not going to be able to run storage off it-- slightly different connector, iirc
23:51 < spacecrab> i wrote a cron for resetting esxi, but vCSA is special snowflake
23:51 < dragonfleas> How much does XenServer cost?
23:51 < spacecrab> it has Citrix involved == $$$
23:51 < xamithan> depends if you get citrix or not
23:51 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, it's free
23:51 < dragonfleas> it's free?
23:51 <+Hunterkll> yes
23:52 <+Hunterkll> i use it for my VPS hosting operation
23:52 <+Hunterkll> lol
23:52 <+Hunterkll> you can pay for support of course
23:52 < AnimalFarmPig> dragonfleas: I run free XenServer at home. You can license it for some reason, but free version does everything I need
23:52 <+Hunterkll> and they paylocked some features again but still
23:52 <+Hunterkll> AnimalFarmPig, SOME features in 7 are pay locked agian
23:52 <+Hunterkll> but 6.x all features are free
23:52 < dragonfleas> what are the licensed features?
23:52 < AnimalFarmPig> Hunterkll: ahhh... yeah, I'm still on 6
23:52 < dragonfleas> can i still install 6?
23:52 <+Hunterkll> hell if i know
23:52 <+Hunterkll> yes
23:52 < AnimalFarmPig> probably
23:52 < dragonfleas> does it support PCI passthrough?
23:52 < spacecrab> @dragonfleas i'd say try them both in a vm quick on ur local machine, super easy to run
23:52 <+Hunterkll> but shit, for home use, i just use hyper-v because i get 95% of the vmware features with $0 licensing
23:52 < dragonfleas> I want a hypervisor that supports PCI passthrough
23:53 < dragonfleas> so I can have a gaming VM
23:53 <+Hunterkll> tack on SCVMM for $0 which has no activation and no call home and has been using the same key since 2012
23:53 <+Hunterkll> Hyper-V supports that
23:53 < AnimalFarmPig> uggg.... PCI passthrough-- 99% of time I see people say that it's because they want to build a gaming virtualization server
23:53 < spacecrab> for PCI passthrough id say either be using KVM or ESXi for the best compatibility
23:53 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, you could also just game on the base Hyper-V install too
23:53 < dragonfleas> I heard KVM is good with PCI passthrough
23:53 <+Hunterkll> Eh
23:53 < spacecrab> this is true
23:53 <+Hunterkll> it's up and coming
23:53 <+Hunterkll> Hyper-V is better
23:53 < AnimalFarmPig> if you're going to build a virtualization server, just dedicate some hardware to it
23:53 <+Hunterkll> Xen is better
23:53 < AnimalFarmPig> it will be easier
23:53 < spacecrab> KVM is up and coming?
23:53 < spacecrab> ge tthe fuck out
23:53 < dragonfleas> What is that feature that enables it with Hyper-V?
23:53 <+Hunterkll> in terms of PCIe passthrough, for hardware, yes
23:53 < dragonfleas> RemoteFX?
23:53 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, same as any other, VT-d ?
23:53 < dragonfleas> I can't remember the name of it
23:53 < dragonfleas> oh
23:54 < dragonfleas> VT-d
23:54 < AnimalFarmPig> just build another computer
23:54 <+Hunterkll> RemoteFX is an RDP thing
23:54 <+Hunterkll> lol
23:54 < dragonfleas> that's right lol
23:54 < dragonfleas> i forgot
23:54 < AnimalFarmPig> gaming rig != virtualization rig
23:54 < spacecrab> all that really matters is that they're properly using VT-d like Hunterkll is mentioning
23:54 <+Hunterkll> spacecrab, in terms of PCIe passthroguh, yes, i've had more success on hyper-v with non-GPU hardware
23:54 < spacecrab> which i know firsthand that KVM and ESXi do
23:54 < dragonfleas> we use remotefx for our drawing pads and compatibility with webcams over RDP
23:54 < spacecrab> for gaming however that's more touchy, shit sometimes doesn't line up at initialization
23:54 < spacecrab> ive only had it work flawlessly on kvm
23:54 < spacecrab> but i dont use hyper-v either so maybe its totally fine there too
23:54 <+Hunterkll> spacecrab, Amazon implemented their first GPU clouds with Xen
23:54 <+Hunterkll> lol
23:54 < AnimalFarmPig> save yourself some headaches and use dedicated hardware
23:54 < spacecrab> but im not going to suggest microshaft winblows
23:55 < dragonfleas> I've heard from everyone KVM is go to for gaming VM
23:55 < alazare619> AnimalFarmPig:  looks like it supports a 1x boot adapter for like a m2 card nice might consider building out a little itx nas
23:55 < spacecrab> @Hunterkll easier when you're using the nvidiot business class components and not the consumer ones
23:55 < xamithan> People seem to like unraid for gaming
23:55 <+Hunterkll> spacecrab, and i'm not going to recommend hypervisors with CPU schedulers that reduce vCPU density and storage subsystems that reduce performance
23:55 < dragonfleas> I have 2 GTX 970's, I want to build two gaming VM's so me and my GF can play games on the same machine on different OS'es
23:55 < xamithan> I don't like how they price their software on number of drives
23:55 <+Hunterkll> There's a reason we just did a sizable hyper-v deployment. Required about 75% of the hardware for the same amount of virtual compute :)
23:55 <+Hunterkll> (Compared to KVM and ESXi)
23:55 < dragonfleas> unraid is expensive as fuck
23:55 <+Hunterkll> (for that specific configuration)
23:55 < dragonfleas> but it's the best for gaming VM's
23:56 <+Hunterkll> (for that specific government agency's workload)
23:56 < dragonfleas> their support even supports gaming
23:56 < spacecrab> storage subsystems that reduce performance is a non-issue, you literally choose your filesystem in proxmox
23:56 < spacecrab> like you just make whatever the fuck you want and mount it
23:56 < spacecrab> btrfs, zfs, xfs, ext4
23:56 <+Hunterkll> spacecrab, storage subsystems as in below the filesystem.
23:56 <+Hunterkll> i'm not talking filesystem.
23:56 < dragonfleas> ext4 >>>>
23:56 < spacecrab> oh sorry, so you're worried about kernel scheduling?
23:56 <+Hunterkll> i'm talking actual storage support/drivers
23:56 < AnimalFarmPig> alazare619: nice. I've been fairly happy with my BayTrail-D stuff. I think AMD's AM1 platform is actually better if you can find it. Power use is about the same (my stuff is under 10W with DC-DC PSU's) and you typically get more SATA ports on the AMD boards (4 vs 2).
23:56 < spacecrab> i see
23:56 <+Hunterkll> I can run SMB3 or NFS datastores between multiple hypervisors and compare performance on the same workloads
23:56 <+Hunterkll> over iSCSI or local storage
23:57 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, explain what you mean by that
23:57 < spacecrab> i just think you're overkilling his use-case
23:57 <+Hunterkll> which one
23:57 < dragonfleas> first one
23:57 <+Hunterkll> spacecrab, he wants to play games, he installs winodws and uses hyper-v
23:57 < AnimalFarmPig> alazare619: but, yeah, low power x86 is so much easier to deal with than ARM SBC's if you're just looking for utility
23:57 <+Hunterkll> easiest way to do it
23:57 <+Hunterkll> lol
23:57 < dragonfleas> hmmm
23:57 <+Hunterkll> he'll also get more VM density out of it anyway
23:57 < dragonfleas> I'll see if it works
23:57 <+Hunterkll> compared to the big ones
23:57 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, it defintiley works because my desktop does it :P
23:57 < spacecrab> im getting rekt by someone telling me that debian is going to be less effecient with storage subsystems than windows server
23:57 < spacecrab> wut
23:57 < dragonfleas> You game on VM's?
23:57 <+Hunterkll> no no
23:58 < joelazot> how is everyone?
23:58 <+Hunterkll> I game on the base desktop
23:58 <+Hunterkll> not in any of the running VMs
23:58 < spacecrab> i guess i'll reiterate that the only hypervisor platform i've _gamed_ on specifically (not just pci passthrough) is KVM
23:58 <+Hunterkll> spacecrab, Xen and others rely on linux kernel systems, and yes, for specific configurations, windows can beat linux in things
23:58 < spacecrab> when it comes to gaming and getting them (consumer GPUs) to initialize nicely its fucked
23:58 <+Hunterkll> spacecrab, just like IIS beats Nginx on performance for a bunch of things
23:58 < joelazot> y would u ever use IIS
23:58 < joelazot> realtalk
23:58 <+Hunterkll> actually, since 2012 IIS has been not bad
23:59 <+Hunterkll> but i'd use it for front end caching in a heartbeat
23:59 < AnimalFarmPig> I would rather pay for additional hardware or "cloud" hosting than try to build a virtualization server that you can game on
23:59 < dragonfleas> IIS does not beat anything
23:59 <+Hunterkll> You'd be surprised.
23:59 < dragonfleas> IIS is fucking g a r b a g e
23:59 < dragonfleas> I haven't used IIS since 2003 R2 IIS 6 so
23:59 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, you're the one who did a DFL upgrade without validating your sysvol replicas
23:59 <+Hunterkll> shush
--- Log closed Fri Jun 15 00:00:05 2018