--- Log opened Fri Jun 15 00:00:05 2018 --- Day changed Fri Jun 15 2018 00:00 < dragonfleas> yeah but I fixed it 00:00 < spacecrab> i gotta bounce for now, dragonfleas if you wanna flesh this out more with anything i was listing feel free to hit me up, otherwise hyper-v does sound promising from Hunterkll's recommendation 00:00 <+Hunterkll> with manually recreating everything 00:00 <+Hunterkll> :) 00:00 < dragonfleas> i'm probably going to go with hyper-v 00:00 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, ya, are you going to be gaming on the workstation itself or remotely? 00:00 < dragonfleas> On the workstation itself 00:00 <+Hunterkll> ya 00:00 <+Hunterkll> then fuckit 00:00 < dragonfleas> i'm not creating a cloud gaming machine fuck that 00:00 <+Hunterkll> Windows server w/activation crack & hyper-v 00:01 < spacecrab> you will not succeed trying to do this remotely 00:01 < dragonfleas> Ummmm Hunterkll, isn't that illegal? 00:01 < spacecrab> yes that is illegal stateside 00:01 <+Hunterkll> .... is this a home machine or what? 00:01 < dragonfleas> It is 00:01 < dragonfleas> but what if microsoft comes into my house and does an audit 00:01 < dragonfleas> they did it last year 00:01 <+Hunterkll> ...... 00:01 < spacecrab> wait seriously 00:01 < AnimalFarmPig> "IIS is fucking g a r b a g e. I haven't used IIS since 2003 R2 IIS 6 so" 00:01 < AnimalFarmPig> Tablets and smartphones are straight up garbage. I haven't used one since Windows XP Tablet edition and Palm Communicator in 2003 00:01 < spacecrab> are you trolling 00:01 < dragonfleas> I'm kidding lmao 00:01 <+Hunterkll> what the fuck 00:01 <+Hunterkll> he's trolling 00:01 <+Hunterkll> lol 00:01 < spacecrab> hahahaha 00:01 < dragonfleas> I'm obviously trolling HAHAHAAH 00:01 < spacecrab> ok pce for real 00:02 < dragonfleas> microsoft coming to my house and doing an audit 00:02 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, I actually have volume license agreements tied to my address tho 00:02 < dragonfleas> c ya 00:02 < spacecrab> :horns: 00:02 <+Hunterkll> in theory they could 00:02 < dragonfleas> That's hilarious 00:02 <+Hunterkll> but i only pay SA on like, one copy of winodws server 00:02 <+Hunterkll> so 00:02 <+Hunterkll> but i did sign the audit agreement 00:02 <+Hunterkll> :P 00:02 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, nah though, i'd just use 10 enterprise or something so you're not stuck on windows 1607 00:02 <+Hunterkll> which is what server 2016 is 00:02 < dragonfleas> Yeah I want Server 2016, with windows 10 VM's, I wanna set up a domain controller, and build a couple linux machines and a plex server for movies, and have all of them tied to the domain 00:02 <+Hunterkll> though server 2019 is just around the corner 00:02 < dragonfleas> that's my goal now with homelab 00:02 <+Hunterkll> eh 00:02 <+Hunterkll> a-ko just builds shit on his gamign desktop in hyper-v 00:03 <+Hunterkll> doesn't really run vms 24/7 tho 00:03 <+Hunterkll> i have a separate rack of machines for my 24/7 shit 00:03 <+Hunterkll> desktop is all just test/dev 00:03 <+Hunterkll> and pubg 00:03 <+Hunterkll> so much pubg 00:03 < dragonfleas> I am probably going to buy one R510 and fill it with a bunch of hard drives 00:03 < dragonfleas> have a VM pussy destroyer 00:03 < hxcsp> Hunterkll: fortnite or bust 00:03 < dragonfleas> run raid 16 00:03 <+Hunterkll> wtf is raid 16 00:04 <+Hunterkll> hxcsp, https://i.imgur.com/a9btIqk.png 00:04 < catbeard> raid 10 and raid6 ? 00:04 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll → IMAGE/PNG Document, 836,882 bytes 00:04 < hxcsp> pubg: hey our game runs like shit, so lets add more skins to it 00:04 < dragonfleas> raid 1+6 00:04 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, why lol i just run server 2016 with storage spaces 00:04 < dragonfleas> the ultimate redudancy 00:04 < catbeard> someone failed distributive property 00:04 <+Hunterkll> just 2-way mirror on the space 00:05 <+Hunterkll> catbeard, no way 1+1= 11 00:05 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, whitebox it anyway 00:05 < dragonfleas> 2+1 = raid 6 00:05 <+Hunterkll> that's what i did 00:05 < hxcsp> Hunterkll: https://gyazo.com/a845898d35f493b670e1681916d52100 00:05 <+layer-eight> * hxcsp → Screenshot - a845898d35f493b670e1681916d52100 - Gyazo 00:05 < dragonfleas> what do you mean whitebox it 00:05 <+Hunterkll> dual hexcore xeons, supermicro X8DT6-F motherboard, 96GB ram, 10 SSDs, 5 HDDs 00:05 <+Hunterkll> ebay specials 00:05 <+Hunterkll> with a rosewill rackmount case 00:05 <+Hunterkll> lol 00:05 <+Hunterkll> and an EVGA PSU 00:06 < AnimalFarmPig> lol, RAID 16 00:06 < AnimalFarmPig> I like this 00:06 <+Hunterkll> X8DT6-F you can reflash the built in SAS controller into IT mode and use the cheap HP SAS expanders for shitloads of drives 00:06 <+Hunterkll> AnimalFarmPig, RAID 69 00:06 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, but I like OMSA 00:06 < catbeard> so got to name the ddos mitigation box 00:06 < catbeard> named it pussy 00:06 * AnimalFarmPig looks up RAID 9 00:06 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, so? don't need that overhead 00:06 < Virtual-Potato> wait are you talking about gaming with servers? 00:06 < Virtual-Potato> ... earlier 00:06 <+Hunterkll> no 00:06 <+Hunterkll> Virtual-Potato, he wanted to set upa desktop rig to run VMs and game on at the same time 00:06 <+Hunterkll> the answer to that is hyper-v, obviously 00:06 < Virtual-Potato> well is that a bad idea? 00:06 <+Hunterkll> game on the control VM 00:06 < Virtual-Potato> it's something I've considered as well 00:07 <+Hunterkll> Virtual-Potato, he's going to be gaming on the machine itself, not on a remote system 00:07 < Virtual-Potato> why hyper-v tho 00:07 < Virtual-Potato> why not KVM with GPU passthrough 00:07 <+Hunterkll> Virtual-Potato, cuz you run windows as your dom0 control VM and it has direct GPU access and no performance penalty at all 00:07 <+Hunterkll> and hyper-v's got better cpu scheduling for VM density 00:07 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, what kind of raid controller for whitebox? 00:07 <+Hunterkll> Virtual-Potato, someone else here was mentioning it sometimes fucks up with GPU init, etc 00:08 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, i don't have one. I just reflashed the built in SAS controller into IT mode, used an HP SAS expander to hook up all the drives 00:08 <+Hunterkll> and use windows storage spaces 00:08 < dragonfleas> is there an integrated one? 00:08 <+Hunterkll> with 2-way mirroring functionality 00:08 <+Hunterkll> i did use the built in SATA raid for the OS drives tho 00:08 < dragonfleas> um, it looks like this mobo has SATA man 00:08 <+Hunterkll> two 64GB SSDs 00:08 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, it has SATA and SAS 00:08 < dragonfleas> Oh I see the SAS now 00:08 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, see those two connectors on the bottom left? 00:09 <+Hunterkll> those are 4 channel SAS connectors 00:09 <+Hunterkll> two each 00:09 <+Hunterkll> two 4 channel sas conenctors 00:09 <+Hunterkll> also has built in IPMI 00:09 < genr8_> the good kind? 00:09 <+Hunterkll> it's kinda meh, but you get remote console, virtual media, power cycle, etc 00:09 < dragonfleas> Oh sick! 00:09 <+Hunterkll> boards like $100 on eaby 00:09 <+Hunterkll> ebay 00:09 < dragonfleas> any kind of IPMI is good IPMI 00:09 <+Hunterkll> supports up to like, 192GB ram 00:09 <+Hunterkll> if you use 16GB modules 00:09 <+Hunterkll> *shrug* 00:09 < dragonfleas> fuck yeah 00:09 < dragonfleas> dual channel? 00:09 <+Hunterkll> i just recycled some 8GB ones 00:09 < dragonfleas> DDR3? 00:09 <+Hunterkll> DDR3 FBDIMM 00:10 <+Hunterkll> registered 00:10 < dragonfleas> ok so ECC 00:10 <+Hunterkll> *registered* ECC 00:10 <+Hunterkll> two types. unbuffered non-reg ECC and buffered reg-ECC 00:10 < dragonfleas> hmmmm 00:10 <+Hunterkll> unbuffered ECC i think this thing can only take like 48GB 00:10 <+Hunterkll> lol 00:10 < dragonfleas> where do i find buffered reg-ecc 00:10 <+Hunterkll> ebay 00:10 < dragonfleas> kk 00:10 < dragonfleas> cheap? 00:10 <+Hunterkll> some R710 laying around at work 00:10 <+Hunterkll> yea ish 00:10 < genr8_> bring one home for me 00:11 <+Hunterkll> i mean, most sticks above 4GB for DDR3 ECC will be reg'd 00:11 <+Hunterkll> woah 00:11 <+Hunterkll> oh 00:11 <+Hunterkll> it's 4x4GB DIMMs 00:11 <+Hunterkll> still 00:11 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, https://www.ebay.com/itm/16GB-PC3-10600-DDR3-1333MHz-ECC-Registered-CL9-240-Pin-DIMM/192562019164?hash=item2cd5973b5c:g:jDQAAOSwJslbFyuw 00:11 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll → 16GB PC3-10600 DDR3-1333MHz ECC Registered CL9 240-Pin DIMM | eBay 00:11 <+Hunterkll> this what it looks like 00:12 <+Hunterkll> may also say shit like PC3-10600R 00:12 <+Hunterkll> etc 00:13 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, but yea if i wasn't using storage spaces with tiered storage i'd be using something like an dell or hp raid controller with the sas expander and RAID-6 00:13 <+Hunterkll> but i'm using many mixed sizes of drives and SSDs 00:13 <+Hunterkll> i think only my HDDs are matching sizes lol 00:13 < dragonfleas> I need to learn how to do tiered storage 00:13 <+Hunterkll> i just selected both SSDs and HDDs 00:13 <+Hunterkll> and said "yes please" 00:14 <+Hunterkll> typed in how much of each to use 00:14 <+Hunterkll> and clicked next 00:14 < AnimalFarmPig> RAID 15 is the future 00:14 < AnimalFarmPig> RAID 15 is life, RAID 15 is love 00:14 < Virtual-Potato> Nah, RAID0 is best 00:14 < dragonfleas> Raid 0 for homelab always 00:14 < Virtual-Potato> RAID0 for prod 00:14 < dragonfleas> LOL 00:14 <+Hunterkll> I've used RAID0 in prod 00:15 <+Hunterkll> on SQL cluster nodes 00:15 <+Hunterkll> for scratch disks 00:15 < dragonfleas> raid 00 for prod 00:15 <+Hunterkll> where if the node goes down 00:15 <+Hunterkll> no one cares 00:15 <+Hunterkll> since the database primary storage is on a SAN 00:15 < dragonfleas> raid 10000000000000000000000000 for prod 00:15 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, https://i.imgur.com/ZsCk4co.png 00:15 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll → IMAGE/PNG Document, 194,453 bytes 00:15 <+Hunterkll> that's tiered storage in action baby! 00:15 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, see the 112GB and 59GB drives? those are the SSDs for the SSD tier 00:16 < dragonfleas> .-..-. _ _ .-. .-. 00:16 < dragonfleas> : `' : :_; :_; : : .' `. 00:16 < dragonfleas> : .. : .--. .--. .-. .--. ,-.,-..-. .--. : `-.`. .' 00:16 < dragonfleas> : :; :' .; ; ' .; :: :' ..': ,. :: :' .; :: .. :: : 00:16 < dragonfleas> :_;:_;`.__,_;`._. ;:_;`.__.':_;:_;:_;`._. ;:_;:_;:_; 00:16 < dragonfleas> .-. : ... .-. : 00:16 < dragonfleas> `._.' ;::::; `._.' 00:16 < dragonfleas> ;::::; :; 00:16 < dragonfleas> ;:::::' :; 00:16 < dragonfleas> ;:::::; ;. 00:16 <+Hunterkll> ..... 00:16 < dragonfleas> ,:::::' ; OOO\ 00:16 <+Hunterkll> fuckin idiot 00:16 < dragonfleas> ::::::; ; OOOOO\ 00:16 < dragonfleas> ;:::::; ; OOOOOOOO 00:16 < dragonfleas> ,;::::::; ;' / OOOOOOO 00:16 < dragonfleas> ;:::::::::`. ,,,;. / / DOOOOOO 00:16 < dragonfleas> .';:::::::::::::::::;, / / DOOOO 00:16 < dragonfleas> ,::::::;::::::;;;;::::;, / / DOOO 00:16 < dragonfleas> ;`::::::`'::::::;;;::::: ,#/ / DOOO 00:16 < dragonfleas> :`:::::::`;::::::;;::: ;::# / DOOO 00:16 < dragonfleas> ::`:::::::`;:::::::: ;::::# / DOO 00:16 < Virtual-Potato> ban inc 00:16 < dragonfleas> `:`:::::::`;:::::: ;::::::#/ DOO 00:16 < dragonfleas> :::`:::::::`;; ;:::::::::## OO 00:16 < AnimalFarmPig> Hunterkll: the SSD's work as cache for the virtual volume? 00:17 < AnimalFarmPig> :( 00:17 < dragonfleas> Why did Hunterkll quit 00:17 < AnimalFarmPig> Hunterkll: the SSD's work as cache for the virtual volume? 00:17 < dragonfleas> welcome back 00:17 < Hunterkll> accident 00:17 < Hunterkll> AnimalFarmPig, yes 00:17 < Virtual-Potato> 'accident' 00:17 < AnimalFarmPig> neat 00:17 < AnimalFarmPig> if only Windows could act as NFS server, I might consider it for a storage box. That seems pretty cool. 00:17 <+SpeakerToMeat> cryptic1: Can we give the pissant a couple minutes cool off? 00:17 < Hunterkll> AnimalFarmPig, did i mention windows server's NFSv4 support? 00:18 < dragonfleas> Virtual-Potato, no ban, the mods are back at work right now 00:18 < Hunterkll> AnimalFarmPig, but here's how it works - https://i.imgur.com/T3GnrAj.png 00:18 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll → IMAGE/PNG Document, 43,043 bytes 00:18 < AnimalFarmPig> Hunterkll: orly? Interesting. 00:18 <+SpeakerToMeat> Hunterkll: Fun what I wanted to do, have fun with Windows and kerberos. 00:18 < Hunterkll> AnimalFarmPig, but see how it says "830GB allocated" and "used pool space 1.62TB" 00:18 < Hunterkll> AnimalFarmPig, it's 830GB space including both tiers, but it's mirrored, so it uses 1.62TB total tier space 00:18 < AnimalFarmPig> yes 00:18 < Hunterkll> so it's actually using 60GB SSD (30GB on each SSD) and 1600GB HDD 00:18 < dragonfleas> Jesus 00:18 < AnimalFarmPig> I see 00:19 < Hunterkll> 2-way mirror 00:19 < dragonfleas> How does that align 00:19 < Hunterkll> like raid one, but with tiering 00:19 < Hunterkll> what do you mean 00:19 < genr8_> the similar drives mirror themselves 00:19 < Hunterkll> no 00:19 < Hunterkll> not really 00:19 < Hunterkll> the OS just makes sure there's a copy of each data bit on different drives 00:19 < Hunterkll> no two drives have to be the same 00:19 < Hunterkll> it's not raid-1, just makes sure there's redundant data copies 00:19 < Virtual-Potato> dragonfleas, work? 00:19 < Hunterkll> optimized for access speed etc 00:19 < Virtual-Potato> what's that 00:20 < Hunterkll> now 00:20 < Hunterkll> the real magic of storage space sis 00:20 < Hunterkll> not all drives have to be the same size 00:20 < Hunterkll> and you can use all available space (for the most part) 00:20 < Hunterkll> look at my SSD pool: https://i.imgur.com/XlfraYT.png 00:20 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll → IMAGE/PNG Document, 125,876 bytes 00:20 < Hunterkll> that's my all SSD only for VMs that need it space 00:20 < Hunterkll> look at the sizes 00:20 < Hunterkll> :D 00:20 < Hunterkll> 489GB 489GB 224GB 112GB 932GB 489GB 112GB 699GB 00:20 < dragonfleas> Virtual-Potato, look at PM 00:21 < Hunterkll> but yet i'm happily running a 2-way mirror on them 00:21 < Hunterkll> i can also gracefully remove drives, which reallocates the data around without harmign integrity/resiliancy, and then insert larger drives 00:21 < Hunterkll> if i've run out of drive slots 00:21 < Hunterkll> that's how i upgraded my desktop's pool 00:21 < Hunterkll> right now it only has 30TB raw, but i've got 4 more drives to replace before it's at 60TB raw 00:22 < Hunterkll> i might add a 2nd 512GB NVMe and have 500GB of NVMe tier in front of the 60TB 00:24 < genr8_> how does it know which drive is the best place to store the copy of the data and how does it know what to cache to put on the nvme drives in front of the 60tb 00:24 < Hunterkll> what drive? it doesn't matter 00:24 < Hunterkll> choses the one with the lowest free space i guess 00:24 < Hunterkll> you can run a leveling routine to even out usage of each drive 00:25 < genr8_> k 00:25 < Hunterkll> but windows storage spaces does tiering based on most accessed in the past 24 hours 00:25 < Hunterkll> well, not past 24 hours per say 00:25 < Hunterkll> it runs tiering once a day, elevates data into the SSD cache 00:25 < genr8_> ah 00:25 < Hunterkll> based on historical usage data of how often the data is accessed 00:25 < Hunterkll> does it block based too 00:25 < Hunterkll> oh, yea, it also includes SSD write cache by default 00:26 < Hunterkll> like my server's storage space has 1GB of SSD write cache to the HDDs 00:26 < Hunterkll> if i don't fill it up it'll just hit SSD all the time and the OS will lazily filter it down to the HDDs in the right spots 00:26 < Hunterkll> but too large of a write cache will induce huge periods of cache flushing, so it's a mixed bag depending on how big you make it 00:26 < genr8_> why not set it for like 4gb 00:26 < Hunterkll> depends on workload etc 00:26 < Hunterkll> 1GB is just fine for generic 00:27 < Hunterkll> the larger you get, the longer a cache flush to disk takes in some scenarios 00:27 < Hunterkll> but if you're just right, you see net gains 00:27 < genr8_> what about powerloss prevention 00:27 < Hunterkll> .... 00:27 < Hunterkll> it's an SSD, not RAM 00:28 < Hunterkll> there's no risk of data loss once the application gets an "ok i've written it!" 00:28 < Hunterkll> it's not cache ram like on a raid controller 00:28 < genr8_> i thought it was 00:28 < genr8_> cause its a buncha disks 00:28 < genr8_> and one may die or w/e 00:28 < genr8_> idk 00:28 < Hunterkll> ? mine's a 2-way mirror.... 00:29 < Hunterkll> it writes it to both SSDs .... and eventually moves it to the HDDs... but if i lose power before hand .. .it's still on the SSDs and still gets eventually moved to the HDDs... 00:29 < genr8_> what if it never made it anywhere 00:29 < Hunterkll> then you'd be in the same situation with any other system ever? 00:29 < Hunterkll> if your application never wrote to disk, you're fucked 00:30 < genr8_> you could recover the partial blocks 00:30 < Hunterkll> from where?!?! 00:30 < Hunterkll> the system ram that just had a power failure?! 00:30 < genr8_> ram? idk 00:30 < genr8_> the intent log 00:30 < Hunterkll> that would exist IF THE APPLICATION HAD WRITTEN TO DISK 00:30 < genr8_> synced writes 00:30 < Hunterkll> that's still 00:30 < Hunterkll> the application writing to disk 00:30 < genr8_> k 00:30 < genr8_> youre probably right 00:31 < Hunterkll> i don't think you get what your'e asking 00:31 < genr8_> i dont 00:31 < Hunterkll> genr8_, you can treat this the same as if it were a single hdd 00:31 < Hunterkll> functionally 00:31 < Hunterkll> it's no different 00:31 < Hunterkll> a single, non-raid HDD 00:31 < Hunterkll> it acts 100% the same 00:31 < Hunterkll> so if you'd lose data in the scenario with a single HDD, you'll lose it with this (barring drive failure or bit rot on a single disk of course....) 00:31 < Hunterkll> it's 'cache' yes, but not like in-ram cache or raid controller or disk controller cache 00:32 < Hunterkll> you were talking about filesystem features 00:32 < Hunterkll> you can use whatever file system you want in a tiered storage space 00:32 < Hunterkll> this is all below the filesystem 00:32 < genr8_> theres a whole other OS layer there tho 00:33 < Hunterkll> there is in LVM on AIX or Linux or whatever too 00:33 < Hunterkll> or md arrays 00:33 < Hunterkll> etc 00:33 < Hunterkll> but the driver returns back if a write succeeded or not just the same 00:33 < genr8_> see i was right 00:33 < genr8_> https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/filecab/2016/11/18/dont-do-it-consumer-ssd/ 00:33 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ → Don’t do it: consumer-grade solid-state drives (SSD) in Storage Spaces Direct | Storage at Microsoft 00:33 < Hunterkll> genr8_, that's because consumer SSDs have a ram cache in them 00:33 < Hunterkll> lol 00:33 < Hunterkll> i wouldn't be using consumer SSDs 00:34 < Hunterkll> genr8_, i'm talking about how the system works, not what the hardware components may deviate and do differently 00:34 < Hunterkll> What about servers? In the enterprise space, the cost and complexity of providing complete power safety to a collection of servers can be prohibitive. This is the design point enterprise SSDs sit in: the added cost of internal power capacity to allow saving the buffer content is small. 00:35 < Hunterkll> genr8_, you get around that by bypassing the HDD/SSD's write cache to some extent, which is what hardware raid controllers do 00:35 < Hunterkll> which is why they need to have their own cache ram since they're ignoring the drive's 00:35 < genr8_> anyway that is what i was getting at 00:36 < Nightcinder> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/vB9Ssj3H/image.png 00:36 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder → IMAGE/PNG Document, 1,334,883 bytes 00:36 < Hunterkll> genr8_, but most of that blog post is about performance 00:36 < genr8_> like we all have a buncha SSDs around, throwing them all at a storage spaces array wouldnt be the best idea 00:36 < Hunterkll> it woudln't be the worst idea either 00:36 < Hunterkll> genr8_, you're at the same level of risk as regular power outage if you're using the SSDs outright normally 00:36 < dragonfleas> Doctor is keeping me at work 00:37 < dragonfleas> ugh 00:37 < dragonfleas> I need to deploy his laptop and monitor 00:37 < Hunterkll> 2nd time dell has called me only to me hear hold music when i answer 00:37 < Hunterkll> what the fuck 00:37 < dragonfleas> LMAO 00:37 < Maarten> i'm pricing a 50 TB NVME array now.... now that's speed and storage :) For a price.... 00:37 < Hunterkll> and hangup 00:38 < Hunterkll> genr8_, tl;dr is that enterprise SSDs have larger cache on them - larger buffer - and would work ebtter in specific scenarios, 00:38 < Hunterkll> they don't talk about data loss at all in that article 00:38 < Hunterkll> genr8_, also, storage spaces direct is not regular storage spaces. it's a wild different animal akin to VMware's VSan 00:39 < Hunterkll> so this is more for clustered cross-machine storage in a superconvered hypervisor cluster 00:39 < Hunterkll> it's also a new 2016 feature which i've not yet even tried :P 00:39 < Maarten> Nightcinder, that paw is AWFULLY close to that reset button, if I see that correctly.... ;) 00:39 < Hunterkll> i'm using regular storage spaces 00:39 < genr8_> hm 00:40 < Hunterkll> genr8_, here's what S2D is - https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/storage/storage-spaces/storage-spaces-direct-overview 00:40 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll → Storage Spaces Direct overview | Microsoft Docs 00:40 < Hunterkll> it's also only available in server dtacenter which requires more $$$ 00:40 < Hunterkll> so if you're already shelling out for that... 00:46 < genr8_> so its ReFS 00:46 < Hunterkll> ? 00:46 < Hunterkll> ReFS is one of many filesystems you could use in a storage space 00:46 < genr8_> storage spaces direct uses reFs 00:46 <+SpeakerToMeat> ReFS, because your files are so good they're worth opening twice 00:46 < Hunterkll> lol 00:47 < Hunterkll> ReFS does patrol reads and shit and is SS aware to help with disk integrity and verification and shit 00:47 < Hunterkll> S2D is one new technology that's loosely related to storage spaces 00:47 < Hunterkll> it requires multiple servers and it's a spanned system, just like VMware's VSan 00:47 < Hunterkll> different tech 00:47 < genr8_> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/storage/refs/mirror-accelerated-parity 00:47 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ → Mirror-accelerated parity | Microsoft Docs 00:47 < Hunterkll> genr8_, I can use a storage space unformatted attached to a VM as a raw disk with any file system i want 00:47 < Hunterkll> Storage Spaces Direct i'd have to use VHDs 00:48 <+NinjaStyle> can i make an interface dhcp with just the ip command? 00:48 <+SpeakerToMeat> lame joke 00:48 < Hunterkll> I do mostly use ReFS on my disks anyway because of the SS aware featrures and maintence it does 00:48 <+NinjaStyle> or do i need the interface config file? 00:48 < Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, doubt it 00:48 < Hunterkll> never tried 00:48 < Hunterkll> i always dhclient or w/e 00:48 <+NinjaStyle> even doing dhclient alone its not taking it 00:48 < Hunterkll> i assumed we needed that for a reason .... 00:48 < Hunterkll> dhcpcd3 ? ;p 00:49 < Hunterkll> i just run dhclient eth0 00:49 < Hunterkll> and i'm done 00:49 < Hunterkll> dhcpcd or dhclient one of them has to be daemonized tho 00:49 <+SpeakerToMeat> NinjaStyle: you'll need a dhcp client anyhow, dhcpcd, dhcp_client or pump, and will have to run it 00:49 < Hunterkll> or it drops the ip info 00:49 <+SpeakerToMeat> NinjaStyle: The dhcp request is issued by a user space daemon/program not kernel space 00:49 <+NinjaStyle> what im saying is, dhclient works, but its not assigning itself the address, i assume i need a config file saying it should take DHCP addresses? 00:50 <+SpeakerToMeat> NinjaStyle: If you're using a NM based install, change the interface to dhcp in nm config and it'll manage the request 00:50 < Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, dhclient 00:50 <+NinjaStyle> Hunterkll: yeah, no dice 00:50 < Hunterkll> gay 00:50 <+SpeakerToMeat> NinjaStyle: No, dhclient should assign the address returned 00:50 < Hunterkll> ur shit is fukt 00:50 < Hunterkll> ^ 00:50 <+NinjaStyle> its making the requests but the interface isnt being assigned the address 00:50 <+SpeakerToMeat> NinjaStyle: Make sure you're specifying the interface like Hunterkll said, and you're running it as root 00:50 <+SpeakerToMeat> NinjaStyle: And that you're not using NM, it'll overrule any change in a jiffy 00:51 <+NinjaStyle> maybe i should specify this is a virtual nic 00:51 <+SpeakerToMeat> seng-ting 00:51 < Hunterkll> SpeakerToMeat, jesus christ man he's not a user you don't have to ask him twice 00:51 < Hunterkll> you need to ask him 18 more times 00:51 <+SpeakerToMeat> Hunterkll: wat 00:51 < genr8_> they removed ReFS creation from windows 10 pro fall creator update 00:51 < genr8_> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/08/microsoft-to-remove-full-refs-support-from-windows-10-pro-push-workstation-sku/ 00:51 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ → Microsoft to remove full ReFS support from Windows 10 Pro, push Workstation SKU | Ars Technica 00:51 < Hunterkll> yes 00:51 < Hunterkll> so? 00:52 <+SpeakerToMeat> Ok, am I lagged? 00:52 < genr8_> can we get it back ? 00:52 < Hunterkll> i run enterprise anyway 00:52 < Hunterkll> eh 00:52 < Hunterkll> why? 00:52 < Hunterkll> don't need it 00:52 < Hunterkll> and it's nonbootable anyway 00:52 <+SpeakerToMeat> shit, I'm lagged.... what's that... 579 seconds? can't be.... 00:52 <+SpeakerToMeat> somebody ping me 00:52 < Hunterkll> lol 00:52 < genr8_> can we use zfs on windows yet 00:52 < Hunterkll> lol 00:52 < Hunterkll> almost instant? 00:52 <+SpeakerToMeat> genr8_: Windows is not advanced enough for zfs 00:52 < Hunterkll> LOLWUT 00:52 <+SpeakerToMeat> Hunterkll: :/ 00:52 < Hunterkll> windows not advanced enough? 00:52 < Hunterkll> hahahahha 00:53 <+SpeakerToMeat> ah 579 is not the seconds but the number of people in channel.. wrong column 00:53 < Hunterkll> NT can implement linux natively... 00:53 < Hunterkll> lol 00:53 < Hunterkll> (Yes, WSL is equally native to Win32) 00:53 < Hunterkll> in fact, with the right instrumentation, you could rip out win32 and run as pure WSL 00:53 < Hunterkll> lmao 00:53 < Hunterkll> not that you would 00:53 < Hunterkll> but it's possible 00:53 < Hunterkll> just like the research team who made Windows XP dom0 for Xen one time 00:53 < Hunterkll> and ran it paravirt'd in guest VMs 00:53 < Hunterkll> it was XP all the way down 00:54 <+SpeakerToMeat> Man I'm sure happy I didn't say I didn't know what ReFS is because I work in professional environments thus never use windows earlier on... your head would've exploded... literally! 00:54 <+SpeakerToMeat> I literally could have killed you :( 00:54 < Hunterkll> ? 00:55 < Hunterkll> why? 00:55 < Hunterkll> I barely use it myself 00:55 < Hunterkll> and we have 0 ReFS at work 00:55 < Hunterkll> even though we're mostly a winodws shop 00:55 < Hunterkll> lol 00:55 < genr8_> well i hope they figure out how to give us back a better version of ReFS or Re-NTFS so to speak 00:55 <+SpeakerToMeat> genr8_: There must be a reason why it's removed 00:55 <+NinjaStyle> Hunterkll: SpeakerToMeat: nvm, something else is happening 00:55 < genr8_> storage spaces could be helping them figure it out. its still new 00:56 < Hunterkll> SpeakerToMeat, market segmentation 00:56 <+SpeakerToMeat> NinjaStyle: why 00:56 < Hunterkll> it had been around a few releases 00:56 < DLSteve> Is ReFS even bootable? 00:56 <+NinjaStyle> traffic is tagged on the request, but the dhcp response isnt tagged 00:56 < Hunterkll> genr8_, storage spaces has nothing to do with file systems! 00:56 < genr8_> they musta realized it was flawed 00:56 < Hunterkll> genr8_, no, they left it in workstion, enterprise, and education skus 00:56 <+SpeakerToMeat> NinjaStyle: You mean you have a request but not response? 00:56 < Hunterkll> and it's still front and center in all the server and datacenter technologies 00:56 < genr8_> it doesnt have to but they want all their crap to work together 00:56 < Hunterkll> ReFS already has done that flawlessly 00:56 < genr8_> hmm i guess true 00:56 < Hunterkll> SINCE WINDOWS SERVER 2012 00:56 < Hunterkll> REFS IS NOT NEW 00:56 <+NinjaStyle> i have the response, but its not being tagged for 802.1q 00:56 < Hunterkll> well 00:56 < Hunterkll> relatively speaking 00:57 < Hunterkll> genr8_, it's purely market segmentation. gotta upgrade to workstation to have its advanced disk patrol/self healing features for your work attached storage pools 00:57 <+SpeakerToMeat> NinjaStyle: Is the request vlan tagged? is it received on the dhcp server tagged or untagged? 00:57 < genr8_> i didnt even know there WAS a workstation edition until right now 00:58 < Hunterkll> genr8_, it's cheaper than enterprise with the same HW limits as enterprise 00:58 < Hunterkll> basically 00:58 < genr8_> we're back to Windows NT workstation 00:58 <+NinjaStyle> SpeakerToMeat: well i am getting a response from the correct dhcp server, so i am assuming its making it tagged, but when the response comes in its not tagged 00:58 < genr8_> NT 4.0 Workstation was the shit 00:58 < Hunterkll> but higher HW limits than prop 00:58 <+NinjaStyle> i can see the resquest tagged on the way out 00:58 <+SpeakerToMeat> NinjaStyle: Not necessarily, the dhcp server could be on the same vlan untagged, the switch should keep it on the vlan and hand the package to machines on untagged or tagged ports on the vlan 00:59 <+SpeakerToMeat> NinjaStyle: Now, is this network setup and vlan layer 2 or 3? 00:59 <+SpeakerToMeat> it could be a routing problem with layer 3 00:59 < genr8_> Windows 10 Pro currently only supports up to two physical CPUs and 2 TB of RAM per system, but Windows 10 Pro for Workstations will support up to four CPUs and 6 TB of RAM. 00:59 <+NinjaStyle> im trying to use all this shitty ubiquity abstraction and its fucking confusing 00:59 <+SpeakerToMeat> oh damn 00:59 <+NinjaStyle> like idk what even acts as the dhcp server 00:59 <+SpeakerToMeat> feck 01:00 < genr8_> lol 01:00 <+SpeakerToMeat> So you're wiresharking on the machine side, but not your dhcp server side? 01:00 <+SpeakerToMeat> How do you know the dhcp server is receiving the request at all? 01:00 <+NinjaStyle> i cant on the server, but on my linux box, the physical nic is seeing the dhcp response, but the virtual nic isnt 01:01 <+SpeakerToMeat> NinjaStyle: :/ so you DO get a response, only an untagged one??? 01:01 <+NinjaStyle> and i can see the outgoing traffic is tagged coming from the vnic 01:01 < genr8_> i think you have to set it in the software 01:01 <+NinjaStyle> right 01:01 < genr8_> you might be able to set "tagged or untagged" 01:01 <+SpeakerToMeat> Then, your nic and vnic share a mac, right? 01:02 < genr8_> or like, "keep tag or strip tag" 01:02 <+NinjaStyle> SpeakerToMeat: yeah 01:03 <+NinjaStyle> genr8_: i dont see any options like that in the ubiquity settings 01:03 <+SpeakerToMeat> The only thing I can come up is the switch has the untagged use of the mac address stored in memory, so when the response to the request comes directed at your nic/vnic's mac address it's handing it back untagged 01:03 <+SpeakerToMeat> genr8_: This should be on the switch level, you shouldn't afaik be able to decide on the ultimate tag status because your interlocutor could be untagged afaik 01:05 <+SpeakerToMeat> NinjaStyle: Do a test if you can, make your vnic a macvlan with a different mac, and try again, it's the only thing I can think off the top of my head. 01:06 < Nightcinder> Maarten: i turned the button off 01:11 <@JollyRgrs> i'm getting rid of a Linksys EFAH05W 01:12 <@JollyRgrs> anyone want it? 01:12 <@JollyRgrs> 10/100 5 port workgroup hub 01:12 <@JollyRgrs> ... 01:12 <@JollyRgrs> anybody? 01:12 <@JollyRgrs> anybody? 01:12 <+SpeakerToMeat> I was gonna say maybe but 10/100 01:12 <@JollyRgrs> you think there's gigabit hubs? 01:13 <+SpeakerToMeat> oh shit, hub. 01:13 <+SpeakerToMeat> And no auto mdi..... 01:14 <+SpeakerToMeat> Plus it'd make me weep with nostalgia for the wrt54g that the local power company burned 01:15 <@JollyRgrs> if it was a switch, i'd use it for my HDHomeRun (100mbit only) and PS3 (also 100Mbit only iirc) 01:15 <+SpeakerToMeat> Nod 01:15 <@JollyRgrs> but right now? my 48 port 10/100 is doing that... b/c i am already using a 5 port gigabit switch somewhere else 01:15 <+SpeakerToMeat> What I really want someone tossing out to give me is a voip gateway, I'm looking at a 1 fxs 1 fxo thing 01:15 <@JollyRgrs> i srsly need to wire up my house 01:16 <+SpeakerToMeat> JollyRgrs: I used to have 3 layer 2 :D I used to have ethernet, wlan and powerline (the old verry slow kind) 01:16 <@JollyRgrs> i remember doing powerline in late 90s 01:16 <@JollyRgrs> it was to help share dial-up coming into one PC :P 01:16 <@JollyRgrs> homelink or something was the brand? 01:17 <+SpeakerToMeat> There's a newer faster powerline tech 01:17 < xamithan> Does powerline even work ? 01:17 <@JollyRgrs> SpeakerToMeat: oh, i know, even gigabit now, iirc 01:17 < xamithan> Or do you need new wiring 01:17 <+SpeakerToMeat> xamithan: It used to.... not perfectly but it did 01:17 <@JollyRgrs> xamithan: sure... cept not so well if GFI is on the circuit 01:17 < jay-ros> I'm wondering what I can do with this cisco SRP500 when I move home. Hoping to flash it to manage voip 01:17 < xamithan> It never worked in my 70s house 01:17 < jay-ros> ...otherwise I've got a few other toys to pull apart 01:17 <+SpeakerToMeat> xamithan: You do not need new wiring, but you need the topology to be all in a single breaker/phase 01:17 <@JollyRgrs> SpeakerToMeat: doesn't have t obe single breaker 01:17 < xamithan> single breaker or single circuit ? 01:18 <@JollyRgrs> but like i said, it seems GFI breakers or outlets seem to mess it up 01:18 <+SpeakerToMeat> JollyRgrs: No, but has to be same phase. And that's a trouble in my home, we have the load pretty well balanced between the 3 01:18 <@JollyRgrs> yeah, same phase... but except for a circuit DEDICATED for certain appliances... it should all be same phase 01:18 <@JollyRgrs> ah 01:19 <+SpeakerToMeat> JollyRgrs: Well for starters my SO has a home studio and has one phase reserved for it, so there's no parasite motor harmonics bleeding in. 01:19 <+SpeakerToMeat> The other two are pretty well load balanced thorough the apartment 01:19 <@JollyRgrs> audio studio? 01:19 <+SpeakerToMeat> yep 01:19 <@JollyRgrs> nice 01:19 <+SpeakerToMeat> You can see it.... 01:19 <+SpeakerToMeat> Here https://www.instagram.com/p/Bj-D2n7HIFY/?taken-by=juancarlinmusic 01:19 <+layer-eight> * SpeakerToMeat → Juan Carlos De La Cruz on Instagram: “Un poco de Fingerstyle Funk... para practicar! / A little bit of Fingerstyle Funk... For practicing!. Use audífonos / use Headphones! 🎧 . .…” 01:20 <@JollyRgrs> that's a lot of tech in a tiny space 01:20 <@JollyRgrs> lol 01:20 <+SpeakerToMeat> Yes and you're seeing %33 of the room 01:20 <@JollyRgrs> is that blue lava in that lava lamp? 01:21 <@JollyRgrs> i got the same exact one (i got twins, actually) 01:21 <+SpeakerToMeat> on your right there's a Fender Rhodes and two keyboards (Alpha Juno and Jv90), and right bellow to the right there's a thin drum set (purcusion) 01:21 <@JollyRgrs> that reminds me, i need to get a new bulb 01:21 <+SpeakerToMeat> Yes, we also have a yellow lava in the master bedroom 01:34 < MillerBOSS> https://www.amazon.com/ODROID-XU4-Single-Board-Computer-Gigabit/dp/B0163GEA64 Looks neat 01:35 < MillerBOSS> With Android 01:36 < silentfury-s4pro> 2gb ram these days isnt enough for android 01:36 < MillerBOSS> Android is that bad? How much RAM do you think is needed? 01:36 < MillerBOSS> Would be running only zmNinja 01:37 < silentfury-s4pro> nougat was a pig, and oreo i bet is even more so 01:37 < silentfury-s4pro> 4gb minimum, ideally 6 01:37 <+SpeakerToMeat> MillerBOSS: For a normal user, 3Gb minimum 01:37 <+SpeakerToMeat> If I could get my Note 4, with 5 or 6 GB, for $40 I'd be happy 01:37 < MillerBOSS> Even with on app running? 01:38 < MillerBOSS> And everything that can be turned off, turned off? 01:38 < Hunterkll> bah 01:38 < Hunterkll> 3 is fine 01:38 < Hunterkll> more is overkill 01:38 < Hunterkll> 3 was fine on 7.1 for my daily forever 01:38 < Hunterkll> nexus 6 01:39 < Hunterkll> never had any problem 01:39 < Hunterkll> still use it 01:39 < MillerBOSS> This would be for a monitor to view cameras within zmNinja https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pliablepixels.zmninja_pro&hl=en_US 01:39 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → zmNinja-pro - Apps on Google Play 01:39 <+SpeakerToMeat> Hunterkll: My note 4 constantly kills programs 01:39 < Hunterkll> blame ur samsung image 01:40 <+SpeakerToMeat> Probably yes 01:40 <+SpeakerToMeat> But I like Shhealth and snotes too much to switch :( 01:41 < jay-ros> Miller - there's a 64 bit one there as well... but it's quad 1.5ghz 01:41 < jay-ros> Wouldn't run windows because it's an ARM chip, right? 01:43 < MillerBOSS> As far as I know thats correct. 01:43 < jay-ros> but with HDMI you could throw kodibuntu or something similar on it, and fire up a media server for tv 01:44 < MillerBOSS> Could, but I am just looking to run zmNinja or be able to view multiple RTSP streams. 01:44 < Hunterkll> jay-ros, someone got the full windows 10 arm image running on rpi3 but it was stuck only using one core and bsod'd after a while 01:44 < Hunterkll> and win10 arm device sare coming 01:44 < Hunterkll> full desktop ones 01:45 < Hunterkll> with x86 emulation and everything 01:45 < Hunterkll> (32bit apps only) 01:50 < Church-> Heya SpeakerToMeat 01:50 < Church-> Sup 01:50 < Church-> Been ages 01:51 <+SpeakerToMeat> Two ages. We're all dead and simulatyed now 01:51 <+SpeakerToMeat> You didn't feel the switch, but I think they reconstructed my right foot wrong 02:01 < coderphive> et hem 02:07 < jay-ros> Hunterkll - I'm trying to work out if I can find a WOL controller for a tv 02:07 < Hunterkll> jay-ros, just build that rpi ipmi thing 02:07 < Hunterkll> and use it to control the power switch via relay 02:07 < Hunterkll> or something 02:07 < Hunterkll> or just the outlet 02:07 < Hunterkll> lol 02:07 < jay-ros> and something to use my old samsung s7 as a universal controller for the home 02:08 < jay-ros> drop sim, hook it to the wifi, flick netflix to the tv, use it as a spotify controller etc 02:12 < jay-ros> meanwhile, I'm fired up to knock out admin stuff, but the marketing dude is away (so I can't clean up DNS), I'm waiting on twinax cables (so I can't finish the active LUN stretching), and it's friday so I don't want to make many big changes to the infra 02:12 < jay-ros> *sigh* 02:13 < jay-ros> oh, Hunterkll... check this out, let me find the link... 02:13 < jay-ros> https://www.purestorage.com/content/dam/purestorage/pdf/datasheets/ps_ds2p_activecluster_01.pdf 02:14 < jay-ros> that's what I'm implementing - we were discussing (you were teaching me) sql active/passive and active/active 02:27 < rpifan> hi 02:27 < rhqq> hi 02:27 < rpifan> sup 02:27 < rhqq> nommuch 02:27 < rpifan> yea? 02:27 < rhqq> california is cooking hot already 02:27 < rhqq> >.> 02:28 < rhqq> 32°C 02:28 < rpifan> its kinda cold 02:28 < rpifan> in miaim 02:29 < rpifan> man o man 02:34 < rpifan> so my machine has decided to no longer have audio 02:34 < rpifan> just disappered 02:37 < rpifan> misspwn, 02:37 < misspwn> hiii 02:38 < misspwn> i'm makin grilled shredded chicken bureeeeaaaatoes 02:38 < catbeard> pulseaudio -k 02:38 < rpifan> yea nothing 02:38 < rpifan> it shows no audiocard 02:38 < rpifan> oh nice i love burritos, did u destroy the chicken yourself? 02:39 < rpifan> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Failed to kill daemon: No such process 02:41 < misspwn> rpifan, nah this time i cheated and bought pre cooked shredded chicken since i didn't want to thaw out chicken thighs i separated. i pan fried it with onions and added some enchilada sauce and cooked some mexican rice 02:41 < misspwn> then i just assembled into burrito and used my sandwich press 02:42 < rpifan> oh sounds nice 02:42 < rpifan> they sell pre shreded chicken at the store? 02:42 < misspwn> pre cooked? yea 02:43 < rpifan> like u mean those 5 dollar whole chicknes? 02:44 < misspwn> naw it's near the meat usually or where there is the tubs of pre made mashed potatoes, pulled pork with sauce and all that 02:44 < rpifan> is tha so 02:44 < rpifan> i walked into the store today 02:44 < rpifan> with that same idea 02:44 < rpifan> of getting precooked chicken to make something fun 02:44 < rpifan> and thye had nothing 02:44 < rpifan> not even the whole ones 02:44 < misspwn> :( 02:44 < rpifan> i know so i bought two slices of pizza 02:44 < rpifan> i know its bad 02:47 <+NinjaStyle> MillerBOSS: if your bot isn't downloading images, why does it make a request to linked images every day? 02:48 < MillerBOSS> I'd assume anyone that views the page as it pulls all links to view 02:48 < MillerBOSS> And it flushes the links out after either x number or x days. Its in the code, though. 02:49 < rpifan> cant get my damned audio to work 02:49 < rpifan> still dummy device 02:50 < Trapdoor> ihre, you still here? 02:51 < MillerBOSS> Does that match up to what you are seeing or no NinjaStyle ? 02:51 <+NinjaStyle> It's on a schedule 02:51 < Trapdoor> chrome should have a shortcut for opening a new tab in front of all the others >< 02:51 < Trapdoor> FYI it's shift+middle mouse button 02:52 <+NinjaStyle> Also, who's site is this https://www.nwps.ws 02:52 <+layer-eight> * NinjaStyle → NWPS Network Services 02:53 < MillerBOSS> Whats the time of the schedule? 02:53 <+NinjaStyle> niko wtf 02:53 <+NinjaStyle> 00:45 GMT 02:53 < MillerBOSS> Where is that site? 02:54 < MillerBOSS> So I assume you see a canary link triggered at that time? 02:54 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah it triggers every day at the same time 02:54 <+NinjaStyle> And it's coming from your nodebot ip 02:55 < MillerBOSS> Also thanks for sharing that and helping the other day. I really appreciate it. Still no where closer though. And I saw the cancer generator can be ran on your own via a docker. I plan to set that up but am really confused how they specific the DNS records need to be configured. 02:56 < MillerBOSS> Looking now but I assume its in here https://github.com/funsocietyirc/MrNodeBot/blob/master/scripts/modules/imageUtils.js 02:56 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → GitHub → funsocietyirc → MrNodeBot → Your Friendly NodeJs IRC Bot Framework → @ ~ 2 hours ago → JavaScript → ✡ 14 → Forks: 4 → ☹ 5 02:57 < MillerBOSS> cronTime.minute = 45; 02:57 < MillerBOSS> cronTime.hour = 0; 02:57 < MillerBOSS> .limit(req.query.length || 50); 02:58 <+NinjaStyle> Why is niko, a freenode staff member publicly posting IRC logs to the internet? 02:58 < MillerBOSS> Clean the DB of broken URLS 02:58 < MillerBOSS> Its IRC 02:59 < MillerBOSS> There are many websites with IRC bots that show logs 02:59 < MillerBOSS> https://botbot.me/freenode 02:59 < MillerBOSS> As an example 02:59 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → ⚓ https://botbot.me/freenode/ → Select a Channel | BotBot.me [o__o] 03:04 < MillerBOSS> LOL https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fnwps.ws+%2Breddit-sysadmin 03:04 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → site:https://nwps.ws +reddit-sysadmin - Google Search 03:04 < MillerBOSS> I am at the top 03:06 <+NinjaStyle> I'm just irritated that he is not following freenode policy 03:06 < MillerBOSS> Which is? 03:06 <+NinjaStyle> And he is freenode staff 03:07 <+NinjaStyle> "freenode does not collect or log private or public chat. " 03:07 < MillerBOSS> >If you operate a service that scrapes internal channel content or publishes logs, always make sure to obtain permission from the channel owner or freenode staff before you start publishing logs or other data, 03:07 < MillerBOSS> Maybe he got permission from channel owner and or staff 03:07 < MillerBOSS> As he is one 03:07 <+NinjaStyle> cryptic1: what say you? 03:08 < MillerBOSS> (Staff) 03:08 <@cryptic1> ? 03:08 < MillerBOSS> https://www.nwps.ws/pub/irc-logs/freenode 03:08 <+NinjaStyle> Freenode staff niko is publicly publishing logs 03:08 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → ⚓ https://www.nwps.ws/pub/irc-logs/freenode/ → Index of /pub/irc-logs/freenode/ 03:08 <+NinjaStyle> Does he have permission? 03:09 <@cryptic1> there is no expectation of privacy on irc 03:09 < MillerBOSS> ^ 03:09 <+NinjaStyle> It's freenode policy 03:09 <@cryptic1> people have been doing it for years in here 03:09 <@cryptic1> maybe ask in #freenode 03:10 <+NinjaStyle> It's up to the channel owners 03:10 < MillerBOSS> Yeah they are basically non existent. 03:11 < abakedapplepie> i swear to god 03:11 <@cryptic1> it bothers you that much? 03:11 < abakedapplepie> my ISP is the most incompetant ISP on the planet 03:11 < MillerBOSS> What one now abakedapplepie ? 03:11 <+NinjaStyle> I don't like it 03:11 < abakedapplepie> internet went down at 11:21 AM 03:11 < abakedapplepie> someone cut a fiber line 03:11 < abakedapplepie> the entire southeast michigan service area is out of service 03:11 < abakedapplepie> due to one cut line 03:11 < abakedapplepie> how in the fuck is that possible 03:11 < abakedapplepie> one fiber line 03:11 < MillerBOSS> Must be a fiber line eh? 03:11 < abakedapplepie> no redundancy 03:11 < Maarten> NinjaStyle, a channel owner can ban bots if they want to.... but basically what you put in any irc channel anywhere is 100% up for grabs by anyone who wants to publish it. 03:11 < MillerBOSS> Wow 03:12 < abakedapplepie> aaaaaand 03:12 < Maarten> what isp? 03:12 < abakedapplepie> they just started repairing the break an hour ago 03:12 < abakedapplepie> 9 hours after the outage began 03:12 <+NinjaStyle> Maarten: my point is that it's freenode staff 03:12 < abakedapplepie> ETA is early tomorrow morning 03:12 <+NinjaStyle> And is not following freenode policy 03:12 < abakedapplepie> how in the sam hell does it take you 9 hours to find a fiber break 03:12 < abakedapplepie> and 14 hours to repair it 03:12 < abakedapplepie> how the hell 03:12 < abakedapplepie> and further more 03:12 < MillerBOSS> Then he could easily have someone else not staff do it 03:12 < abakedapplepie> WHERE IS THE REDUNDANCY 03:12 < Maarten> NinjaStyle, well.... bring it up with them :) 03:12 <+NinjaStyle> They're afk 03:12 < Maarten> abakedapplepie, what ISP? 03:12 < abakedapplepie> wideopenwest 03:13 < abakedapplepie> the only alternative to comcast here 03:13 < MillerBOSS> Queue the jokes 03:13 < MillerBOSS> Its sure WIDE OPEN 03:13 < abakedapplepie> and i was about to switch to comcast because WOW wouldnt give me the intro rate on gigabit 03:13 < abakedapplepie> but nooooooooooow 03:13 < abakedapplepie> after this 03:13 < abakedapplepie> i can tell them to give me the deal or shove it 03:13 < Maarten> abakedapplepie, oh I always hear good things about them..... but I don't have any experience with them, they don't serve california 03:13 < abakedapplepie> Maarten: they are 90% better than comcast 03:13 < abakedapplepie> but also considerably smaller 03:13 < Maarten> right. 03:14 < Maarten> I have AT&T, but only because its fiber 03:14 < abakedapplepie> i have outages between the hours of 1am and 4am almost 3 times a week usually somehow its dns only though 03:14 < abakedapplepie> doesnt quite make sense 03:14 <@JollyRgrs> Maarten: same here 03:14 <@JollyRgrs> left comcast for ATT only b/c fiber 03:14 < abakedapplepie> and i think theyve been doing a lot of maintenance here lately putting up new circuits, their trucks have been all over 03:15 < abakedapplepie> if i could get fiber for not an arm and a leg i would 03:15 < abakedapplepie> i can get gigabit WOW for $80/mo tho 03:15 < Maarten> that's pretty bad.... I have had two outages since 2016, both were in the middle of the night, and both probably maintenance. Connection is otherwise rockstable. 03:15 < abakedapplepie> just dns outages 03:15 < abakedapplepie> i dont know why 03:15 <@JollyRgrs> dns outages? who has those? 03:15 < abakedapplepie> maybe my router is infected 03:15 <@JollyRgrs> using ISP DNS still? 03:15 < Maarten> I don't use AT&T's DNS so I wouldn't know :P 03:16 < abakedapplepie> well, thats the thing 03:16 < abakedapplepie> i dont but it still doesnt work 03:16 < abakedapplepie> i think they do weird fuckery with dns 03:16 < abakedapplepie> internally 03:16 < abakedapplepie> idk 03:16 < abakedapplepie> all i know is during these outages 03:16 < abakedapplepie> i can ping IPs but not look up hostnames 03:17 < abakedapplepie> wouldnt surprise me at all iuf they just captured and redirected dns traffic tho 03:17 < abakedapplepie> or maybe sniff common lookups and keep a local dns cache that they get redirected to 03:17 <@JollyRgrs> ... 03:17 < abakedapplepie> idk 03:17 < abakedapplepie> its 2018 03:17 < rpifan> plz someone help me fix my audio on my machine 03:17 <@JollyRgrs> what is your DNS IP right now? 03:17 < abakedapplepie> net neutrality is dead 03:17 < abakedapplepie> 8.8.8.8 03:17 < rpifan> idk wtf is going on 03:17 < abakedapplepie> well 03:17 < abakedapplepie> its 192.168.0.1 03:18 < abakedapplepie> but my router is using 8.8.8.8 03:18 < abakedapplepie> :) 03:18 < Hunterkll> what the fuck internet 03:18 < Hunterkll> what 03:18 < Hunterkll> the 03:18 < Hunterkll> fuck 03:18 < Hunterkll> i've found MULTIPLE things i refuse to post here today 03:18 < abakedapplepie> like i said, router could be infected for all i know 03:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> Hunterkll: hey i'ma need you to calm down 03:18 < abakedapplepie> man 03:19 < TheTinker86> any recomendations for IP Camera server/management software? 03:19 < abakedapplepie> if it disturbs Hunterkll i dont think even my morbid curiousity wants to know 03:19 <@JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: what are you using for internal DNS? 03:19 <@JollyRgrs> TheTinker86: zoneminder? 03:19 < abakedapplepie> my router is a tp-link archer 03:19 < abakedapplepie> TheTinker86: unifi :) 03:19 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, just a picture of an anime figurine with a year's worth of jizz on it 03:19 < Hunterkll> i linked you in another channel 03:19 < abakedapplepie> oh 03:19 <@JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: so your router gives you internal DNS IP, but your router is handling the translation? 03:19 < Hunterkll> and some tapeworm stuff 03:20 < TheTinker86> @JollyRgrs you used zoneminders app? 03:20 <@JollyRgrs> no 03:20 <@JollyRgrs> i haven't used it in a number of years 03:20 <@JollyRgrs> but hopefully will be again soon 03:20 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/ww5VBnA.png 03:20 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll → IMAGE/PNG Document, 769,428 bytes 03:21 < Hunterkll> facebook is spicy today 03:21 < TheTinker86> abakedapplepie unifi software/nvr doesnt allow for non unify cameras 03:21 < abakedapplepie> i know 03:21 < abakedapplepie> ;) 03:21 <@JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: do all nslookups show from 192.x.x.x or do some show from another IP? 03:21 < abakedapplepie> i love my unifi cameras 03:21 < TheTinker86> i should have specified, im trying to test out a system with REOLINK cameras 03:22 < abakedapplepie> JollyRgrs: i have no idea beause my shits down right now 03:22 <@JollyRgrs> lol 03:22 < abakedapplepie> with an eta of what 14 more hours 03:22 < TheTinker86> unifi cameras look amazing, but are more expensive than i think the client will want to pay 03:22 <@JollyRgrs> set DNS static on your workstation 03:22 <@JollyRgrs> see if it works 03:22 < abakedapplepie> no i mean literally down 03:22 < abakedapplepie> lol 03:22 < abakedapplepie> cut fiber 03:22 <@JollyRgrs> oh 03:22 <@JollyRgrs> why'd you cut fiber? 03:22 < abakedapplepie> ..12 hours ago 03:22 <@JollyRgrs> supposed to only cut cheese 03:22 < TheTinker86> shouldnt cut the fiber 03:22 < abakedapplepie> whole city is out 03:22 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, hahah we had a fiber cut in texas that crippled us for 2 days 03:22 < abakedapplepie> these idiots are complketely incompetant 03:22 < TheTinker86> it needs to stay in one piece to keep working ;p 03:22 < abakedapplepie> i really dont know how it takes so long to fix a fiber line 03:22 < abakedapplepie> or why theres only ONE LINE FEEDING AN ENTIRE CITY 03:22 < abakedapplepie> WHY WHY WHY 03:23 < abakedapplepie> ffs 03:23 < Hunterkll> who let cryptic1 design a bathroom ? https://i.imgur.com/AKNKJC3.png 03:23 < TheTinker86> anyone used the xprotect software? 03:23 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll → IMAGE/PNG Document, 512,296 bytes 03:23 < abakedapplepie> Hunterkll: youve never seen a single person bathroom with both a toilet and a urinal? 03:23 < abakedapplepie> its quite common 03:24 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: is that handicap bar behind the toilet only for grabbing onto while cryptic1 takes it in the pooper? 03:24 < Hunterkll> yes 03:24 <@JollyRgrs> and what abakedapplepie said, 100% 03:24 < abakedapplepie> whats weird is when you walk into an open bathroom and theres 3 toilets next to each other with no dividers 03:24 <@cryptic1> O_o 03:24 < abakedapplepie> like voodoo brewery in pittsburgh 03:24 < abakedapplepie> fucking weird bastards 03:24 <@JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: or the stalls w/ no doors 03:24 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, your comments are being logged and posted online 03:24 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, or how about a unixsex multiple installation bathroom 03:24 < Hunterkll> like that one bar in reykjavik 03:24 < MillerBOSS> Aren't we online now? 03:24 < Hunterkll> "No matter what you have, just be kind to others while you perform!" 03:24 <@JollyRgrs> cryptic1 loves packing the fudge, he also likes making the fudge and watching someone else pack it for him 03:25 <@JollyRgrs> log and post that! 03:25 < MillerBOSS> I dialed in just a few minutes ago 03:25 < abakedapplepie> the vooodoo brewery bathroom opens into the main sitting area, with no barriers to see inside the room, and 3 toilets lined up 03:25 < abakedapplepie> so anytime someone goes in or out of the bathroom 03:25 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, https://www.nwps.ws/pub/irc-logs/freenode/reddit-sysadmin-2018-06-15.txt 03:25 <+layer-eight> * cryptic1 → TEXT/PLAIN Document, 54,474 bytes 03:25 < abakedapplepie> you can get an eyefull of up to three dudes taking a shit 03:25 < Hunterkll> HAHAHAHAHHA 03:25 < MillerBOSS> FROM THE FUTURE EVEN 03:25 < Hunterkll> EVEN THE ANIME GIRLS JUDGE cryptic1 https://i.imgur.com/q3JtlKR.png 03:25 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll → IMAGE/PNG Document, 546,604 bytes 03:25 <@cryptic1> yeap 03:25 < MillerBOSS> The date & time is currently: Thursday, June 14, 2018 at 8:25:29 PM 03:25 <@cryptic1> they know what you are going to say 03:26 <@JollyRgrs> cryptic1: hasn't that site been logging for a while now? 03:26 < Maarten> its 6:26 PM here :P 03:26 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, yes you have 03:26 < Hunterkll> https://icelandmonitor.mbl.is/news/politics_and_society/2016/08/14/reykjavik_bar_removes_gender_signs_in_bathrooms/ 03:26 < Hunterkll> yea here we go 03:26 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll → Reykjavik bar removes gender signs in bathrooms - Iceland Monitor 03:26 < Maarten> timezones, yay! 03:26 < Hunterkll> that's the bar in reykjavik i went to 03:26 < Hunterkll> one of the EVE meetup groups was there 03:26 < Hunterkll> think it was DRS 03:27 < MillerBOSS> I didn't know you came out of the closet yet, Hunterkll 03:27 < Hunterkll> ? 03:27 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL 03:27 < Hunterkll> cryptic1, JollyRgrs obviously MillerBOSS is new here 03:27 < MillerBOSS> Oh wait 03:27 < MillerBOSS> SORRY! 03:27 <@cryptic1> what? 03:27 < Hunterkll> i'm fuckin' dying here 03:27 < Hunterkll> after half the stories i've told 03:27 <@cryptic1> you clearly don't know Hunterkll 03:28 < Hunterkll> you can't hit me with that 03:28 < Hunterkll> lmao 03:28 <@cryptic1> lol 03:28 < MillerBOSS> It was a joke. I am well aware 03:28 < Hunterkll> is it human, of legal age in whatever locality i'm in, under 60, and under 200lbs ? it's probably fair game! 03:28 < MillerBOSS> Jesus those logs are live 03:28 < Hunterkll> ..... i should probably find out the laws in russia around these sorts of things before i go 03:28 < MillerBOSS> Refresh 03:29 < MillerBOSS> Yeah you should or you'll end up in the "hole" 03:29 <+NinjaStyle> Imo we should kick bots 03:29 < MillerBOSS> But not my layer-eight 03:29 <+NinjaStyle> Like what's the point, it contributes nothing 03:29 < MillerBOSS> He is so helpful 03:30 <+NinjaStyle> Except he can't do regex to save his life 03:30 < Hunterkll> IMO we shouldn't kick bots and NinjaStyle is a fucking little bitch 03:30 < MillerBOSS> Well everyone, I mean everybot is not perfect. 03:30 <+NinjaStyle> Hunterkll: thanks 03:31 < lasagna> what did i miss 03:31 < Hunterkll> lasagna, this: https://i.imgur.com/lPGq2En.png 03:31 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll → IMAGE/PNG Document, 907,080 bytes 03:31 <+NinjaStyle> I'm complaining about bots like always 03:32 < lasagna> are there bots in here besides the ops and layer-eight (which is a shit bot)? 03:32 < lasagna> Hunterkll: brilliant 03:32 <+NinjaStyle> Yes 03:32 < lasagna> which? 03:32 <+NinjaStyle> There is a freenode staff member violating freenode policy 03:32 <+NinjaStyle> And publicly logging the channel 03:32 <@JollyRgrs> what is the freenode policy? 03:32 < Hunterkll> lol 03:32 < Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, and? your point? 03:33 <+NinjaStyle> They're freenode staff 03:33 < lasagna> NinjaStyle: who and what 03:33 < Hunterkll> lol 03:33 < Hunterkll> you act like we should care 03:33 <+NinjaStyle> https://www.nwps.ws/pub/irc-logs/freenode/reddit-sysadmin-2018-06-15.txt 03:33 <+layer-eight> * NinjaStyle → cryptic1 → TEXT/PLAIN Document, 54,474 bytes 03:34 <@JollyRgrs> NinjaStyle: what's your point? 03:34 <@JollyRgrs> this is a public channel, what expectation of privacy do you have? 03:34 < Hunterkll> there's multiple iterations of that 03:34 <+NinjaStyle> That freenode staff should adhere to freenode policy 03:34 < Hunterkll> tahts not the only one i've seen lol 03:34 < Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, i don't think it should even be freenode policy 03:34 < lasagna> which freenode staff member? 03:34 < Hunterkll> so let the civil disobedience continune 03:34 <+NinjaStyle> Not your call asshole 03:34 <@JollyRgrs> NinjaStyle: what is the freenode policy? 03:34 < Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, i don't understand why you're so uptight about something taht's been commonplace on any IRC for 20 years 03:34 <+NinjaStyle> That logging bots need to have permission 03:35 < Hunterkll> don't like it, make your own 03:35 < Hunterkll> nope 03:35 < MillerBOSS> Easy NinjaStyle :P 03:35 <@JollyRgrs> considering most of these channels are for helping with FOSS projects, it would be almost like you would WANT things posted 03:35 * MillerBOSS slaps NinjaStyle around a bit with a large trout 03:35 <@JollyRgrs> NinjaStyle: i give it permission 03:35 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, seriously, 10 years ago i helped maintain a bot for this express purpose around these parts lol 03:35 < MillerBOSS> Such as https://botbot.me/freenode/ 03:35 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → Select a Channel | BotBot.me [o__o] 03:36 < Hunterkll> I have always assumed since day 1 there was a public website where i could see realtime or searchable logs of this channel 03:36 < Hunterkll> i just never bothered asking where it was 03:36 < MillerBOSS> JollyRgrs saved the day! 03:36 < Hunterkll> i figured the ops were probably doing it anyway 03:36 < Hunterkll> lol 03:36 < MillerBOSS> Layer-eight has one for recent images 03:36 < MillerBOSS> Image links* 03:36 < Hunterkll> and if not the ops, there's 583 users in a channel ... and maybe 30 active ones out of that 03:36 < Hunterkll> lol 03:36 <@JollyRgrs> i got my own personal logs, but don't upload anywhere 03:37 < Hunterkll> i index all my logs with splunk 03:37 < Hunterkll> lol 03:37 < MillerBOSS> And you add tabascosco sauce 03:37 < Hunterkll> not to splunk 03:37 < MillerBOSS> LOL 03:37 < Hunterkll> thats impossible 03:37 < MillerBOSS> Uh, nothing is impossible 03:38 < MillerBOSS> http://159.89.129.123:8084/ user pass 03:39 < lasagna> `yt scott steiner math 03:39 < Hunterkll> yea 03:39 < MillerBOSS> The bots maker's site is a little more elegant https://www.fsociety.online/links 03:39 < Hunterkll> let me just open that random ip and login 03:39 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → FSociety - IRC Link Watcher 03:39 < Hunterkll> lol 03:39 < MillerBOSS> Its to the layer-eight Hunterkll 03:39 < Hunterkll> oh 03:39 < Hunterkll> it actually is 03:39 < Hunterkll> wow 03:39 < MillerBOSS> OK let me set a domain and change it to 80 03:39 < Hunterkll> :P 03:39 < Hunterkll> lol 03:39 < MillerBOSS> Eye roll 03:39 < MillerBOSS> :P 03:39 < lasagna> i have beer 03:39 < Hunterkll> i figured it'd have a bot cloak 03:40 < MillerBOSS> Nah not yet 03:40 < Hunterkll> so it would be impossible to verify 03:40 < Hunterkll> but it's actually verifiable 03:40 < Hunterkll> odd 03:40 < MillerBOSS> Its actually still in "test mode" as far as I am concenred. 03:40 < Hunterkll> WHAT WHY THE FUCK 03:40 < lasagna> my cloak is the best cloak 03:40 < Hunterkll> DOES A GRILL 03:40 < Hunterkll> NEED WIFI 03:40 < Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, wanna come to the bbq/pentest? 03:40 < Hunterkll> :P 03:40 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/XOf2M2W.png 03:40 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll → IMAGE/PNG Document, 601,101 bytes 03:40 < lasagna> Hunterkll: IOT 03:40 < MillerBOSS> A toilet needs Wi-Fi. 03:40 < Hunterkll> WIFI GRILL 03:41 < technonerd> a bidet needs wifi 03:41 < Hunterkll> oh sweet 03:41 < Hunterkll> my PiDP kit is coming soon 03:41 <+NinjaStyle> Eat shit Hunterkll 03:41 < Hunterkll> :D 03:41 < Hunterkll> someone's testy 03:41 < lasagna> someone find the adult swim smart pipe video 03:41 < MillerBOSS> Lol Oh come on 03:41 < Hunterkll> about something i assumed is 100% happening all the time 03:41 < Hunterkll> and also has no proof that it's actually a freenode staff member 03:41 < Hunterkll> or they'd share it 03:41 < Hunterkll> kinda like the FCC 03:42 <+NinjaStyle> It's 100% freenode staff 03:42 <+NinjaStyle> niko: 03:42 < Hunterkll> because you couldn't do this yourself and accuse someone? 03:42 < Hunterkll> regardless, i'd be flabergasted if this was the only one 03:42 < lasagna> i understand your point and frustration NinjaStyle but don’t insult to ppl here. it won’t help your argument. 03:42 < Hunterkll> i honest to god assumed that ops were doing it as a channel function anyway 03:42 < Hunterkll> lol 03:43 <+NinjaStyle> lasagna: none of the ops seem to care 03:43 < Hunterkll> or if not someone else was 03:43 <+NinjaStyle> And I regularly Google around for logs 03:43 < Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, because why should anyone care other than it is some sort of policy violation ? 03:43 <+NinjaStyle> So I know it's not widespread 03:43 < Hunterkll> I literally assume that in over 50+ channels it's happening at any one time 03:43 < Hunterkll> and in at least 20 of 'em i can prove it 03:43 <+NinjaStyle> Good for you 03:43 < Hunterkll> again, 582 users, only about 30 are really active 03:43 < lasagna> NinjaStyle: 1) i am an op 2) i care 3) even if i didn’t, don’t insult people here 03:43 < Hunterkll> do the math about what most of 'em are 03:44 < MillerBOSS> I wonder if https://github.com/freenode/Sigyn is the culprit. 03:44 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → GitHub → freenode → Sigyn → A Limnoria plugin to fight abuse on IRC networks → @ ~ 10 days ago → Python → ✡ 32 → Forks: 19 → ☹ 1 03:44 < Hunterkll> I literally just don't see what there is to be upset about 03:44 < lasagna> NinjaStyle: if i were you i’d /ignore Hunterkll if they’re poking you with a stick. 03:44 < Hunterkll> I'm seriously trying to *understand* what there is to be upset about. 03:45 <+NinjaStyle> lasagna: if this channel openly supports public logging it should be in the topic with a link to the logs 03:45 < Hunterkll> The only way to avoid it, at all, is to make it invite only and vet everyone. 03:45 < lasagna> NinjaStyle: it doesn’t need to support it to understand it happens in large channels regardless. 03:45 <+NinjaStyle> Since the point would be to search for previously asked questions and whatnot 03:46 < lasagna> ops ban bots if we find them. 03:46 < lasagna> except the ops themselves 03:46 <+NinjaStyle> No they don't, I just brought it up 03:46 < lasagna> since they are all bots 03:46 < Hunterkll> And that's only if they're detectable, but for the most part, it's impossible to detect 03:46 < lasagna> what is the bot? 03:46 < lasagna> third time i’ve asked 03:46 <+NinjaStyle> It's either niko or it belongs to niko 03:46 < MillerBOSS> OK, blowfish key has been set for #reddit-sysadmin. Log into the FTPES server to get the key using blowfish command. GO! 03:47 < Hunterkll> MillerBOSS, there's a difference between not understanding the malfunction, and just being a total jackass 03:47 < lasagna> i’ll speak with niko when we’re both online tomorrow NinjaStyle, if you can prove it’s theirs. 03:47 < lasagna> Hunterkll: don’t insult plz 03:47 <+NinjaStyle> Sec 03:47 < lasagna> you two should take it to #donger tbqfh 03:47 < MillerBOSS> Lol what just happened? I was making a joke 03:47 <@cryptic1> there is no need to speak to him 03:47 < MillerBOSS> Chillax 03:47 <@cryptic1> who gives a fuck 03:48 <@cryptic1> this channel has been logged and posted online forever 03:48 <@cryptic1> i don't know why its suddenly an issue 03:48 < Hunterkll> cryptic1, i think this is the first time NinjaStyle found it happening, is all 03:48 <@cryptic1> don't say stupid shit online and you won't ahve issues 03:49 < Casteil> bwahahah 03:49 <@cryptic1> don't reveal who you are irl 03:49 < Casteil> chipmunkPopulation -= 3; 03:49 < Hunterkll> Casteil, what kinda weapon? 03:49 < Casteil> just a stock crosman 1377 air pistol 03:49 < Hunterkll> lol nice 03:49 < lasagna> f 03:49 <+NinjaStyle> Hunterkll: like I said, I Google for logs a lot 03:49 < Hunterkll> that's always fun 03:49 < rpifan> someone please save me 03:49 < rpifan> im desperate 03:49 < Casteil> I'm not about to pick off chipmunks with an actual gun 03:49 < rpifan> this damn thing has lost audio 03:49 < Casteil> that'd be illegal 03:49 < rpifan> and nothing i do make its work again 03:50 < rpifan> i cant live without audio 03:50 < Casteil> (too close to neighbors) 03:50 < Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, right, but i still don't understand why it's such a big deal 03:50 <+NinjaStyle> Because you're dense 03:50 <@cryptic1> its public chat 03:50 < lasagna> NinjaStyle: do i have to ask you to not insult ppl again 03:50 < Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, IRC crawlers come through all the time and log snips, then leave 'em in the search engines etc 03:50 <+NinjaStyle> Yes 03:50 <+NinjaStyle> lasagna: keep telling me 03:50 < Hunterkll> lasagna, leave it, we've known each other for a while, it's not an issue 03:50 < Hunterkll> or not 03:51 < Hunterkll> -_- 03:52 < Hunterkll> welp 03:52 < Hunterkll> there goes another one i guess 03:52 < MillerBOSS> Next topic 03:52 < MillerBOSS> I thought the cats were taking control out there Casteil 03:52 < Casteil> the cat isn't effective enough 03:52 < Casteil> it got 2 03:52 < Casteil> I've gotten at least 6, possibly 8 03:53 < MillerBOSS> Aren't there traps for that stuff? 03:53 < Casteil> traps don't discriminate 03:53 < lasagna> are they digging up the lawn or something? 03:53 < Casteil> I have no interest in killing squirrels or birds 03:53 < MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOjeMEaoX9Y 03:54 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → YouTube → A better chipmunk trap → ⚘ 178,480 ↑ 164 ↓ 25 ✍ 63 03:54 < technonerd> are you a doggo? 03:54 < Casteil> they're digging up my landscaping, digging around my underground utilities, and one of them just chewed through my screen in this window (low to the ground) 03:54 < MillerBOSS> That looks good ^ 03:54 < Casteil> squirrels & birds aren't wrecking my shit 03:55 < Casteil> MillerBOSS: didn't hear a splash ._. 03:55 < MillerBOSS> Well he isn't getting out 03:55 < Casteil> anyway 03:55 < gavit> is it possible to backup a zfs snapshot to amazon? 03:55 < Casteil> there's far fewer running around now 03:56 < lasagna> regular chips or red chipmunks? 03:56 <@JollyRgrs> gavit: can you format your amazon in zfs? 03:57 < Casteil> too many idiots are quick to whine about killing 'cute harmless chipmunks' 03:57 < Casteil> too dumb to realise what kind of damage they can do 03:57 <@JollyRgrs> Casteil: like when ppl say opossums are cute... until they open their mouths 03:58 < Casteil> australian possums are kinda cute 03:58 < Casteil> and chipmunks are cute too 03:58 < Casteil> american possums aren't cute though lol 04:01 < Casteil> MillerBOSS: lol.. https://youtu.be/iaJyLvDIz08?t=177 04:01 <+layer-eight> * Casteil → ⚓ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaJyLvDIz08&feature=youtu.be&t=177 → YouTube → Chipmunk War! Which Trap Really Works??? → ⚘ 30,394 ↑ 243 ↓ 6 ✍ 53 04:03 < Casteil> that dude caught a shitload of chipmunks 04:04 < MillerBOSS> Yeah. Looks like you know what you are getting 04:06 < MillerBOSS> So he stopped with he peanut butter. I wonder what he ended up with. 04:11 < Nostalg14c> Morning fellas. 04:11 * Nostalg14c slaps chanserv 04:12 < MillerBOSS> Wasn't that your host? 04:12 <@Nostalg14c> ay? 04:13 < MillerBOSS> You slapped chanserv I assume for not taking your command but isn't that because your host was not the cloaked version? 04:13 < MillerBOSS> Just curious 04:14 <@Nostalg14c> nah i slapped it because there's no auto-op in this channel 04:14 < MillerBOSS> Slap it up then 04:15 <@Nostalg14c> and i have to do it manually 04:21 < MillerBOSS> Wtf https://www.ebay.com/itm/youtube-views-100-PERMANENT-views/292589421527?hash=item441fb043d7 04:21 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → youtube viêws 100+ PERMANENT viêws | eBay 04:22 < MillerBOSS> Totally https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-W0CBOGnnI 04:22 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → YouTube → SILICON VALLEY - CLICK FARM → ⚘ 33,093 ↑ 130 ↓ 4 ✍ 33 04:25 * MillerBOSS looks for IRC users to buy to put #reddit-sysadmin at the top of /list 04:26 <@cryptic1> slapity slap 04:26 <@cryptic1> thats all Nostalg14c does 04:26 < joelazot> cryptic1: hello mr 04:26 < joelazot> mr cryptic 04:27 <@cryptic1> whats up? 04:27 < joelazot> just saying hi 04:27 <@cryptic1> keep these guys in line i hope 04:27 < joelazot> cause you're supposably extremely smart, sir 04:27 <@cryptic1> uhhh so wrong so very wrong 04:27 <@cryptic1> how much did Hunterkll pay you to troll me? 04:28 < joelazot> nothing sir 04:28 <@cryptic1> i don't believe it 04:28 < joelazot> I have no ascociation with hunterkll 04:28 < joelazot> I'm that retarded 15 year old, remember? 04:28 < MillerBOSS> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cheapest-Youtube-Subscribers-Subs-SAFE-FAST-HQ-TRUSTED-SELLER/173362880194 1000 subs for $17.99 is cheaper to get a new YouTube account with AdSense vs paying $100 to the extortionist. 04:28 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → ⚡⚡ Cheapest Youtube Subscribêrs | Subs | SAFE & FAST & HQ | TRUSTED SELLER ⚡⚡ | eBay 04:28 <@cryptic1> joelazot, oh i remember and not "retarded" 04:28 < MillerBOSS> From New Zealand. 04:28 <@cryptic1> I would never have said that 04:29 < MillerBOSS> Did you pass that exam joelazot? 04:29 < joelazot> cryptic: how bout fucking newfag from nz 04:29 < joelazot> millerboss: which one? 04:29 < Hunterkll> wat 04:29 <@cryptic1> not that either 04:29 < Hunterkll> cryptic1 is too dumb to say retarded 04:29 < MillerBOSS> The one you posted. 04:29 < Hunterkll> he'd say you're reeeetarted 04:30 < joelazot> MillerBOSS: I passed both :D 04:30 < MillerBOSS> Great job. Be sure to apply for sysops of #reddit-sysadmin think they are looking. /msg cryptic1 for details. 04:31 < joelazot> cryptic1, you a windows or linux admin? 04:31 < Hunterkll> cryptic1 couldn't admin his own dick 04:31 <@cryptic1> ha 04:32 <@cryptic1> current job is mostly winders 04:32 <@cryptic1> i do love linux 04:32 < joelazot> I was gonna see if i could do a RHCSA next year 04:32 < joelazot> but the exam is SO EXPENSIVE 04:32 < joelazot> $700 FUCKING HELL 04:32 < joelazot> im just poor kek 04:32 <@cryptic1> hold off on that 04:33 < joelazot> and...? 04:33 < joelazot> just not get a cert in the near future? 04:33 < joelazot> until i finish uni? 04:33 <@cryptic1> start with something smaller 04:33 < joelazot> if i get into uni 04:35 < joelazot> cryptic1: like a linux foundation cert 04:35 < joelazot> ? 04:35 < joelazot> or even smaller 04:36 <@cryptic1> do you understand networking? 04:36 < joelazot> somewhat yeah 04:36 < joelazot> I could see if i could get a CCENT or something 04:36 <@cryptic1> i would suggest starting with that to get a solid base 04:36 <@cryptic1> don't get a cert just learn the concepts/material 04:36 < joelazot> oh ok 04:37 <@cryptic1> just a suggestion 04:37 <@cryptic1> you have lots of time 04:37 < joelazot> I do have a cisco 3560G so i geuss i could start with a CCNA so i can configure it and stuff 04:38 < joelazot> although i realllllly want to do some linux stuff since i have RH124,RH134 and RHCSA PDFs 04:41 <@JollyRgrs> joelazot: you need to decide what you want to do first 04:42 <@JollyRgrs> it is good to have a wide background 04:42 <@JollyRgrs> but going between RH certs and cisco certs... focus on one or the other first... 04:42 < joelazot> yeah I agree 04:42 <@cryptic1> not even to that degree joelazot i mean just the concepts 04:42 <@JollyRgrs> which do you like better? sysadmin or network admin? 04:42 <@cryptic1> how the different layers work 04:42 <@cryptic1> will help with troubleshooting later 04:42 <@JollyRgrs> you want to have basic building blocks 04:42 < joelazot> JollyRgrs: Sysadmin 04:42 < joelazot> cryptic1: oh basic stuff? 04:42 <@JollyRgrs> then make sure you don't skimp out and you do KNOW stuff about networking... but focus more on sysadmin 04:42 <@JollyRgrs> but make sure you know base of other things 04:43 < MillerBOSS> And make sure to reach the sedative layer 8 and 9. 04:43 <@cryptic1> joelazot, yes build a good foundation 04:43 < joelazot> yeah 04:43 < MillerBOSS> Secretive* 04:43 <@JollyRgrs> like i'm an SCCM guy, but i know linux and i know some about networking, etc. 04:43 < joelazot> Gotcha 04:43 <@JollyRgrs> without the foundation you become like those devs everyone hates 04:43 <@cryptic1> ^ 04:43 < MillerBOSS> And make sure to research the secretive layer 8 and 9. 04:43 < DLSteve> hah, I embrace the hate! 04:43 <@JollyRgrs> if you only know your one discipline... you'll suck... but if you try to master all... you'll suck at all 04:44 < joelazot> MillerBOSS: but the osi model only has 7 layers? 04:44 < joelazot> oh 04:44 < joelazot> after a bit of research i understand :p 04:45 < DLSteve> I had to do a whole report on the OSI model back in school and I still don't remember most of it. 04:45 < MillerBOSS> Wait I thought it was only a joke but Bruce Schneider makes a case for layer 8-10 04:45 < MillerBOSS> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Layer_8 04:45 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → Layer 8 - Wikipedia 04:45 < MillerBOSS> And Schneier 04:50 < joelazot> FUCK YEAH BOIS 04:50 < joelazot> GOT A FOSS ADVOCATE IN MY CLASS 04:50 < joelazot> IM NOT THE ONLY ONE 04:50 < joelazot> FEELSGOODMAN 04:51 < Hunterkll> 'foss advocate' is another's 'platform zealot who makes work more difficult' 04:52 < joelazot> I wouldn't use only foss software in prod 04:52 < joelazot> that's a stupid idea 04:53 < joelazot> But i do like foss software y'know 04:55 <+CheckYourSix> MikeSpears: Which Unifi product did you use that had issues with OpenVPN? Was it a USG or an EdgeRouter? 04:55 < MikeSpears> usg iirc 04:55 < MikeSpears> edge rather 04:55 <+CheckYourSix> I'm contemplating doing the USG Pro model for my router, just looking up what issues people have had 04:56 < MikeSpears> USG is dope 04:56 < MikeSpears> If I had the $$$ for two, I'd get one 04:56 <+CheckYourSix> Seems like it had some issues with Gigabit internet though 04:56 < MikeSpears> need one for home, and one for colo 04:56 < MikeSpears> I'd like to go back to watchguards 04:57 < joelazot> My network setup is gonna be shit y'know 04:57 < joelazot> modem > switch > pfsense > old router with dhcp disabled being used as an AP 04:57 < MikeSpears> why modem > switch? 04:57 < MikeSpears> why not modem > pfsense 04:58 < MikeSpears> or are you doing the VLAN setup with one NIC? 04:58 < joelazot> idk 04:58 < MikeSpears> joelazot: don't bother with jerryrigging an old router as an AP.. 04:58 < MikeSpears> UniFi APs are cheap 04:58 < MikeSpears> the AC-LITE is only $89 04:58 < joelazot> MikeSpears: im 15 boi 04:58 < joelazot> I'm a poor cunt 04:58 < MikeSpears> so? 04:59 < MikeSpears> I'm sure you can get $80 in a few months 04:59 < joelazot> yeah, but until then... 04:59 < MikeSpears> I know I could when I was 15.. 04:59 < xe0n> lollll 04:59 < joelazot> all of my money is going to a server 04:59 < MikeSpears> leave the setup as is, and do yard work and shit 04:59 < MikeSpears> don't halfass shit 04:59 < xe0n> says you. 04:59 < MikeSpears> I mean, I guess it works in a pinch 04:59 < MikeSpears> xe0n: I never half-ass shit 05:00 < xe0n> "never", strong word 05:00 < MikeSpears> name one instance 05:00 < MikeSpears> and if it works very well, it's not half-assed 05:01 < MikeSpears> if it doesn't work all that well, then it might be half-assed 05:01 < MikeSpears> if it works great, it's creative engineering 05:01 < joelazot> ^ 05:02 < MikeSpears> I would say that even an older unifi ap off ebay would be better 05:03 < MikeSpears> if you can spare $40-50 05:03 < joelazot> But until then y'know 05:04 < MikeSpears> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ubiquiti-Networks-Unifi-AP-AC-Wireless-Access-Point-UAP-AC-6545A-UAPAC-Units/253677654590?hash=item3b105dd23e:g:hl0AAOSwUwlbGsgH 05:04 <+layer-eight> * MikeSpears → Ubiquiti Networks Unifi AP AC Wireless Access Point UAP-AC 6545A-UAPAC Units | eBay 05:04 < MikeSpears> you'll need to get a POE injector, if you don't have a POE switch 05:05 <+CheckYourSix> Dumb question, but what do Application Servers actually do? Like the Cisco ones 05:05 < MikeSpears> but other than that, you're better off doing it at least semi-right 05:25 * MillerBOSS is listening to Mark Chesnutt - Bubba Shot The Jukebox from the album Longnecks & Short Stories on Spotify. 06:13 * MillerBOSS is listening to Sawyer Brown - Some Girls Do from the album The Dirt Road on Spotify. 06:13 < MillerBOSS> Some do 06:14 < jay-ros> What uuuuuup 06:14 < MillerBOSS> Welcome back 06:14 < jay-ros> :) thanks 06:14 < jay-ros> https://mnpctech.com/buy-stealth-cable-combs-for-pcs/ethernet-network-data-mount-bases.html 06:14 <+layer-eight> * jay-ros → Network Adhesive Cable Clip Organizer Management Clamp Bases for Internet Router Data Server Room Networks 06:14 < jay-ros> how good do they look for fibre cable management? 06:15 < jay-ros> a little epoxy glue to make sure they stay... 06:15 < MillerBOSS> I never used I velcro. Thin kind but that does look bad 06:16 < MillerBOSS> I'd suggest double sided tap instead of glue 06:16 < jay-ros> I'm picking up what you're putting down... 06:16 < MillerBOSS> :P 06:17 < jay-ros> I'm considering the fact that glue is permanent 06:17 < MillerBOSS> I'm in the 80's 90's jam mood 06:17 * MillerBOSS is listening to Little Texas - God Blessed Texas from the album Big Time on Spotify. 06:17 < jay-ros> ...like marking my territory :D 06:17 < MillerBOSS> I guess you are 06:17 < MillerBOSS> But will you ever have to move it? 06:18 < jay-ros> Shouldn't do, I'm relocating the switches to in between the patch panels, so patch/patch/switch/patch/patch/switch 06:18 < jay-ros> ever second switch has sfp ports - one for fibre to the cisco nexus, one for copper to the below switch 06:19 < MillerBOSS> Do it! Mark you spot jay-ros 06:22 < MillerBOSS> Here have fun https://clickclickclick.click/ 06:22 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → Click 06:22 < MillerBOSS> https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-06-14-23-22-28-U.png 63% 06:22 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → IMAGE/PNG; CHARSET=UTF-8 Document, 9,767 bytes 06:27 < jay-ros> clickclickclick.click sent an invalid response. 06:27 < jay-ros> comon Miller, it's not working 06:28 < jay-ros> fixitfixitfixit 06:28 < jay-ros> The http://clickclickclick.click/ has been deemed by your administrator to be unsafe or unsuitable for you to access 06:28 <+layer-eight> * jay-ros → ⚓ https://clickclickclick.click:443/ → Click 06:40 < MillerBOSS> LOL are you serious jay-ros ? 06:40 < MillerBOSS> Aren't you the administrator? 06:41 < MillerBOSS> Also jay-ros don't know she is 06:41 * MillerBOSS is listening to Sammy Kershaw - She Don't Know She's Beautiful from the album Haunted Heart on Spotify. 06:41 < jay-ros> well, cisco scansafe blocks stuff :( 06:41 < jay-ros> oh shit I forgot to throw you some songs! 06:41 < MillerBOSS> Oh the site is safe. Just a lot of javascript to show you all it can do. Run that at home, that site. You'll shit all a website can know about whats up 06:41 < jay-ros> OK - some aussie rock for you 06:41 < jay-ros> Ganggajang - Sounds of then 06:42 < MillerBOSS> But 06:42 < jay-ros> Icehouse - Great Southern Land 06:42 < MillerBOSS> Oh geez 06:42 < MillerBOSS> I am jamming to Sammy 06:42 < MillerBOSS> :P 06:42 < jay-ros> Hunters and Collectors - When the river runs dry 06:42 < MillerBOSS> Gimmie a few hours :P 06:42 < jay-ros> throw those three in your playlist for me :) 06:43 * MillerBOSS is listening to Ganggajang - Sounds of Then (This Is Australia) - Remastered from the album GANGgajang (Remastered) on Spotify. 06:43 < MillerBOSS> Sounds like uhh 06:43 < MillerBOSS> Toto 06:43 < MillerBOSS> Well the sound not the voice 06:44 < jay-ros> Yeah, has that 'we haven't figured out how to give weight to lead guitar yet' era sound 06:45 < xe0n> loll ganggajang 06:46 < jay-ros> xe0n - gotta throw him the good stuff to begin with 06:46 < jay-ros> can't throw 'treaty yeah' at him straight away 06:46 < MillerBOSS> I can hear the similarity in all three songs. 06:46 < jay-ros> yeah it's that australian groove rock vibe 06:46 < xe0n> treaaattttyyyyy 06:47 < jay-ros> it's like inxs' Mistify 06:47 < jay-ros> xe0n - best thing on earth? 06:47 < jay-ros> give me a minute 06:47 < xe0n> cold chisel before you know it 06:48 < jay-ros> Add-Type –AssemblyName System.Speech; (New-Object System.Speech.Synthesis.SpeechSynthesizer).Speak('Nhima djatpangarri nhima walangwalang Nhe djatpayatpa nhima gaya nhe marrtjini yakarray Nhe djatpa nhe walang gumurrt jararrk gutjuk') 06:48 < jay-ros> powershell the bridge! 06:48 < xe0n> lolll 06:48 < jay-ros> do it 06:48 < xe0n> i'll use that liner at the end of scripts 06:48 < xe0n> i know what it does lol 06:48 < MillerBOSS> https://open.spotify.com/user/terry4061/playlist/0IePEOERLmSKYG37zmTXyU?si=_oRtsXnJQ3-fgrTUtdvJlw most of these songs are making feel depressed. :P 06:48 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → 80s Australian Rock on Spotify 06:48 < jay-ros> millerboss - next song is overkill by men at work 06:48 < xe0n> loll 06:49 < jay-ros> then midnight oil - beds are burning 06:49 < MillerBOSS> 17 million in Spotify and I never heard of it. 06:49 * MillerBOSS is listening to Men At Work - Overkill from the album Cargo on Spotify. 06:49 < MillerBOSS> Yeah that one I can do but those first 3, umm. 06:50 < MillerBOSS> Just keeping it real 06:50 < jay-ros> ooh, are Divinyls aussie Xe0n? 06:50 < jay-ros> boys in town... 06:51 < jay-ros> then some cold chisel - khe sanh 06:51 < MillerBOSS> Last.fm is so different 06:52 < MillerBOSS> I loved it for the scrobbling and stats. 06:52 < MillerBOSS> https://www.last.fm/music/Men+at+Work/_/Overkill 06:52 < MillerBOSS> 591.2K no idea is that is week, month, year or life time 06:52 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → Overkill — Men at Work | Last.fm 06:52 < jay-ros> Shah^ - sort yourself out 06:53 * MillerBOSS is listening to Corey Hart - Sunglasses At Night from the album First Offense on Spotify. 06:54 < MillerBOSS> Oh. There is the chart https://www.last.fm/music/Corey+Hart and you can change date at top right of chart. 06:54 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → Corey Hart music, videos, stats, and photos | Last.fm 06:55 < MillerBOSS> Scrobbling is built into Spotify 06:55 < MillerBOSS> Just sign into your last.fm account 06:58 < MillerBOSS> So if these are all Australian bands I can totally hear it in the "sound" now. 06:58 < jay-ros> oh yeah, it is its own flavour 06:59 < MillerBOSS> But Keith Urban for example you don't here it. 06:59 < jay-ros> oh, you need more songs - Australian Crawl - Boys Light Up 06:59 < MillerBOSS> Well to me anyways 06:59 * MillerBOSS is listening to Midnight Oil - Beds Are Burning - Remastered from the album Diesel And Dust on Spotify. 06:59 < Maarten> ah an oldie :) 07:00 < jay-ros> Oh, country music? Lee Kernagan- Boys from the bush 07:00 < Maarten> Speaking of great Aussie bands: AC/DC! 07:00 < MillerBOSS> For sure 07:00 < jay-ros> Maarten - that's like introducing MillerBOSS to a Toyota Camry as an australian car 07:00 < Maarten> Speaking of sexy Aussie Singers.... Delta Goodrem *faints* 07:01 < jay-ros> when you've got the torana sitting there unnoticed... 07:04 < xe0n> delta loll 07:06 < jay-ros> yeah that's not good at all xe0n 07:06 < jay-ros> what's the islander guy who won australia has talent in the beginning? 07:06 < jay-ros> not shannon... 07:06 < xe0n> guy 07:06 < jay-ros> that's the turkey 07:07 < nojeffrey> guy sebas? 07:07 < nojeffrey> ah I cant read 07:07 < xe0n> yep 07:08 < xe0n> good aus metal - parkway drive, amity affliction, in hearts wake 07:09 < MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYs8bIGseoI 07:09 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → YouTube → Sammy Kershaw - Vidalia → ⚘ 1,874,695 ↑ 6,048 ↓ 278 ✍ 231 07:11 < Maarten> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KasR2lVvr2M <--- that is the most bad ass version of "guitar gently weeps" I have ever heard..... frampton is godly on that guitar in the 2nd half of that song.... 07:11 <+layer-eight> * Maarten → YouTube → Peter Frampton - While My Guitar Gently Weeps → ⚘ 3,629,090 ↑ 16,978 ↓ 661 ✍ 1,067 07:17 < MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6zZts7HPDg jay-ros do you all even listen to this kind of Country Music there? 07:17 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → YouTube → Sammy Kershaw - Love Of My Life → ⚘ 4,087,444 ↑ 30,416 ↓ 934 ✍ 945 → * Content Restrictions 07:17 < MillerBOSS> 90s 07:17 < jay-ros> The uploader has not made this video available in your country. 07:17 < jay-ros> ...apparently not :P 07:18 < MillerBOSS> I'll fix that 07:19 < Maarten> jay-ros, we don't let that crap out of our country. ;) 07:21 < MillerBOSS> These two follow a theme kinda 1 https://millerboss.com/x/Sammy-Kershaw-Meant-To-Be-ncXc0n4J8Lc-D.mp4 2 https://millerboss.com/x/Sammy-Kershaw-Love-Of-My-Life-b6zZts7HPDg-H.mp4 07:21 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → VIDEO/MP4; CHARSET=UTF-8 Document, 28,186,559 bytes 07:21 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → VIDEO/MP4; CHARSET=UTF-8 Document, 26,200,842 bytes 07:21 < MillerBOSS> layer-eight 👉 Your the best 07:21 < MillerBOSS> You're 07:22 < MillerBOSS> Some would call the last one sappy but what evs 07:28 < MillerBOSS> https://youtu.be/BewKY_BpVXg 07:28 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → ⚓ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BewKY_BpVXg&feature=youtu.be → YouTube → Collin Raye - That's My Story → ⚘ 873,647 ↑ 6,101 ↓ 189 ✍ 129 → * Content Restrictions 07:30 < MillerBOSS> Did I zee a Zach Morris phone there? 07:34 < MillerBOSS> Wow https://youtu.be/Qqa0Fc2kBBY 07:34 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → ⚓ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqa0Fc2kBBY&feature=youtu.be → YouTube → Sold → ⚘ 779,743 ↑ 5,813 ↓ 125 ✍ 182 07:41 < MillerBOSS> 12:40:37 AM @HEYYOUGUYS (+MillerBOSS) (#156024) Today, while I was waiting for an interview, I picked at a something I felt on my chin thinking that it was just some food. I had a good interview. Then I got into my car and looked in the mirror, and saw that I had blood smeared all over my chin. Turns out I had picked a zit. No one told me. FML 07:41 < MillerBOSS> But but did you get the jerb? 07:46 <+ihre> they took my jerb 07:46 < MillerBOSS> Oh yeah? 07:48 <+ihre> too lazy to work, yet they take all the jerbs 07:49 <@Nostalg14c> Any gamer nerds around? 07:49 <@Nostalg14c> Whats the best 27" monitor for gaming at a reasonable price (sub $1k) 07:50 <@Nostalg14c> 144hz vs 200hz; ips vs led/TN 07:52 <+ihre> obviously the one with the most RGB leds 07:52 <@Nostalg14c> well, pixels satisfy that requirement. 07:53 <+ihre> no additional RGB leds == not gamer, anno 2018 07:56 <+ihre> Eizo Foris FS2735 ? 07:56 <+ihre> ViewSonic XG2703-GS 07:57 <+ihre> HP Omen 27 08:00 <@Nostalg14c> Hm 08:00 <@Nostalg14c> looking at Acer Predator and ASUS ROG tbh 08:01 <+A-KO> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236885&cm_re=pg27uq-_-24-236-885-_-Product 08:01 <+A-KO> need 08:02 <+layer-eight> * A-KO → ASUS ROG Swift PG27UQ 27" 4K UHD 144Hz DP HDMI G-SYNC HDR Aura Sync Gaming Monitor with Eye Care - Newegg.com 08:02 <@Nostalg14c> I don't care for 4k tbh,. 08:02 <@Nostalg14c> not running dual 1080's 08:03 <+A-KO> my 980Ti powers 4K just fine 08:04 <@Nostalg14c> 4k getting you above 144fps on latest games? 08:04 <@Nostalg14c> I think not. 08:04 <+ihre> definitely on space cadet 08:07 <+A-KO> no not on 144Hz :P 08:08 <@Nostalg14c> the PG279Q looks legit tho 08:08 <@Nostalg14c> $922 AUD tho, ouch. 08:12 <+A-KO> that's the monitor I've got 08:12 <+A-KO> errr 08:12 <+A-KO> I've got the PG27AQ 08:12 <+A-KO> 4K @ 60Hz 08:12 <@Nostalg14c> ye i want 144hz or higher 08:12 <@Nostalg14c> and 2560x1440 preferabbly 08:13 <@Nostalg14c> so this hits the nails. 08:13 <+A-KO> heh 08:13 <+A-KO> gonna go clean out the computer case 08:13 <+A-KO> because reasons 08:13 <+A-KO> bbiab 08:22 < mtnielsen> Nostalg14c I have the 278Q and it's quite good 08:22 < mtnielsen> though I'm not sure what the difference is between 278 and 279 09:03 < humpaxx> Heyo peeps 09:03 < humpaxx> Its friday again.. Time for soe major undocumented infra changes 09:03 <+ihre> https://onetimesecret.com that is pretty useful 09:03 <+layer-eight> * ihre → Share a secret - One Time 09:06 < MillerBOSS> Ts ts t st ts t st s 09:06 * MillerBOSS is listening to Darude - Sandstorm - Original Mix from the album Sandstorm on Spotify. 09:09 < vader-> hey Miller 09:09 < vader-> you get your channel back? 09:10 < MillerBOSS> What one is that? 09:11 < vader-> youtube 09:11 < humpaxx> Hmm, anyone ever had problems with site2site Ipsec tunnels with EdgeRouter X´s ? 09:11 < vader-> the other night some dude was holding you hostage via copyright shit 09:11 < MillerBOSS> Oh, no 09:11 <+ihre> call in the GIGN! 09:12 < MillerBOSS> YouTube is almost non existent on the issue. I have a plan though 09:12 < MillerBOSS> I need 4000s and 1000 subscribers on a new YouTube account to allow AdSense. 09:13 < MillerBOSS> I am gonna now create multiple channels doing near the same thing to cover my ass when it happens again from these assholes and pay for views and subs until I hit the requirements. Found the shit cheap on eBay. $18 for 1000 subs 09:13 < MillerBOSS> Adsense will pay for that in 4 days 09:13 < MillerBOSS> So now thinking about this I am glad it happened 09:13 < MillerBOSS> Like I just thought of this new idea only a couple hours ago 09:14 < MillerBOSS> Because YouTube gives no fuck. Just until some fuck face files fake DMCA 09:14 * MillerBOSS is listening to Rob Zombie - Dragula from the album Past, Present & Future on Spotify. 09:29 < AustinS> MillerBOSS send me a link to ur vid so i can issue a takedown against you <3 09:29 <@Nostalg14c> that is the past confirmed. 09:29 < AustinS> :3 09:29 < MillerBOSS> I took it all down now 09:29 < AustinS> oh just any video so I can make a strike against you!! 09:29 <@Nostalg14c> Buying the PG279Q confirmed. 09:29 < AustinS> :P 09:29 < MillerBOSS> The ass hole did enough to make 3 strikes happen within 30 minutes 09:30 * MillerBOSS starts uploading WWF videos 09:30 < MillerBOSS> ;) 09:30 < AustinS> that's annoying, but literally on nothing? usually those peoples abilities to do that don't last very long 09:31 < AustinS> dooo it. you'd actually never get a takedown from here unless it was a PPV event or something like that 09:31 < AustinS> ugh gettin tired :| 09:31 < MillerBOSS> https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-06-12-at-2.06.19-AM-p.png 09:31 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → IMAGE/PNG; CHARSET=UTF-8 Document, 93,392 bytes 09:32 < MillerBOSS> https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-06-12-at-2.06.29-AM-D.png 09:32 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → IMAGE/PNG; CHARSET=UTF-8 Document, 106,202 bytes 09:32 < MillerBOSS> https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-06-12-at-2.07.14-AM-z.png 09:32 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → IMAGE/PNG; CHARSET=UTF-8 Document, 132,173 bytes 09:32 < MillerBOSS> He knows exactly what he is doing 09:32 <@Nostalg14c> who did you make enemies with 09:33 < AustinS> what's the name that showed up on the copyright claim/info? it usually provides all that 09:33 < MillerBOSS> Some random just picks channels I assume that has clearly content on youtube that is not theirs. Then attempts to extort. 09:33 < MillerBOSS> So, who are you? Leona Moore Doris Walsh 09:33 < MillerBOSS> Eva Pierce Blanca Allison Rosemary Parker Paulette Rice Francis Murphy Danielle Brock Eileen Parsons Cindy Fernandez 09:33 < MillerBOSS> Those names 09:33 < AustinS> or any info? I'll gladly just send to our rep now and say he tried it to us lmao 09:33 < MillerBOSS> And one email address for all thu thuy 09:34 < MillerBOSS> No the videos he flagged are not mine 09:34 < MillerBOSS> None of them are but he is not the copyright holder, clearly. 09:34 < AustinS> oh i know, i just mean to just report it to someone that I nkow will actually look at/into it 09:34 < MillerBOSS> I download full shows from Fox News and upload 09:34 < MillerBOSS> I got 69,000 subs 09:34 < MillerBOSS> 1 million views a month 09:34 <@Nostalg14c> lol wtf 09:34 < MillerBOSS> Make $175 a month 09:35 * MillerBOSS hids 09:35 < MillerBOSS> Hides too 09:35 <@Nostalg14c> And you dont get your adsense banned? 09:35 < MillerBOSS> No 09:35 < MillerBOSS> Fox does not care. I am 99% sure 09:35 <@Nostalg14c> upload the yeezy family feud ep 09:35 < MillerBOSS> There are shit loads of channels doing it and also live. 09:35 < AustinS> can you tell if every video you upload is getting some revenue? or are some minimal? they may be auto claiming some from fingerprinting and just monetize it 09:36 < AustinS> but not sure how to tell from the other side if thats happening :p obviously not all of them so *shrug* 09:36 < MillerBOSS> I started because I was watching The Five and The Greg Gutfeld show and people are capping it live and uploading edited with the last segments missing so I thought fuck lets get some good Quility shit on here. 09:36 < MillerBOSS> See the images AustinS Its all the same guy 09:36 < AustinS> im gonna start doing the same thing here but uploading and beating you to it. 09:37 < AustinS> ill outrender you! ;p 09:37 < AustinS> and yeah he's a piece of shit lol 09:37 < MillerBOSS> Fingerprinting only picks up on say a viral video on the news which is news worthy and out of the 42 minute show is like 30 seconds and I claim fair use and news worth and they claim to the copyright owner gets approved by them. 09:38 < AustinS> ah. yeah I guess while we fingerprint a lot here, its .. not as much as nonstop news and garbage lol 09:39 < MillerBOSS> I sent a message to youtube on twitter, they said they would dm me if I follow them, I did, they said >Thanks for following us and sorry about the delay in getting back to you. Could you share any details about the person exhorting money in the screenshots? We'll take a look. 09:39 < MillerBOSS> That is over 45 hours ago and no response to that 09:40 < MillerBOSS> In DM 09:40 < MillerBOSS> So that is why I thought of the idea to make multiple channels 09:40 < AustinS> only 45 hrs isn't too bad for youtube support lmao. Half the time I'm waiting that long here.. 09:41 < MillerBOSS> And I have one video I uploaded as part of an experiment maybe 3 years ago about some transgender shit and its now been promoted the last 2 months and that is bringing in many fews. My point to this was it matched copyright but it was not a strike as the copyright holder allowed it to stay and they would just make all the profit. Fine by me. 09:42 < MillerBOSS> Well maybe. I watch their twitter feed seeing them on average messaging people back after about 1 hour. 09:42 < AustinS> yea, well if they specifically asked about pics for it to look into, maybe it went off into that queue.. I'm guessing its just average response time / basic issues get quicker 09:43 < AustinS> funny that bitching about YT though cause i was just working on that stuff on my code a bit ago.. 09:43 < MillerBOSS> I am claiming YouTube is facilitating in extortion with the use of their platform 09:43 <@Nostalg14c> have you tried bumping the dm MillerBOSS 09:43 < MillerBOSS> Yup after 36 hours 09:44 < MillerBOSS> Yeah that makes sense AustinS 09:44 < MillerBOSS> But if you know anyone their feel free to share about the extortion part as I am sure its being done to a shit load of people 09:44 < MillerBOSS> I am willing to bet its a group of people in Vietnam. 09:45 < AustinS> i have direct contacts there, in multiple depts so that's why i was digging for info earlier.. will definitely pass along, at least the emails in them .. if they're useful/actually tied to anything that will do some justice.. :P 09:46 < MillerBOSS> So now my fight isn;'t just for me but for other people that are getting screwed over. I only found out because I emailed the email address and said whats up then invited him to a hangout chat. 09:46 < MillerBOSS> But these guys could easily recreate accounts and keep going. 09:47 < MillerBOSS> This is what gets me >A claimant sent us a legal notice about their copyrighted content in your video. As a result, your video has been removed from YouTube. 09:47 < MillerBOSS> Legal motive using a form filling out bullshit 09:48 < AustinS> yeah. does it count as an instant strike? or just take it down while it goes thru the long ass process? 09:48 < MillerBOSS> CONTENT CLAIMANT POLICY 09:48 < MillerBOSS> Manually detected. Leona Moore. Video taken down 09:48 < MillerBOSS> thuthuy12993@gmail.com 09:48 < MillerBOSS> 09:48 < MillerBOSS> Yes 3 strikes within 30 minutes 09:49 < MillerBOSS> As he did them in chunks 09:51 < AustinS> may not be a SUPER random email address, found something on dailymotion w/ same thuthuy12993 username.. which seems pretty .. not common 09:51 < AustinS> so maybe that gmail is actually something that ties it to them vs. a throwaway.. I guess we'll see :) 09:53 < MillerBOSS> https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-06-15-at-2.51.35-AM-a.png random names all the same email address https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-06-15-02-53-18-S.png 09:53 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → IMAGE/PNG; CHARSET=UTF-8 Document, 87,506 bytes 09:53 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → IMAGE/PNG; CHARSET=UTF-8 Document, 113,682 bytes 09:54 < MillerBOSS> I did verify they are Vietnamese 09:54 < MillerBOSS> Windows 10, Chrome 67 09:55 < AustinS> lol trick them into going to URL or somethin 09:55 < MillerBOSS> And IP address but after I attempted to scare him he said ha ha ha ha I am in a virtual machine. I will just restart it. 09:55 < MillerBOSS> I did 09:55 < MillerBOSS> https://canarytokens.org/generate 09:55 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → Canarytokens 09:55 < MillerBOSS> I gave him one of those 09:56 < AustinS> lol @ restart to get a new public IP, either some cloud thing, or just being like lol i got a new 192.168 IP i tricked em 09:56 < AustinS> and oh nice @ that site ha, a lot more options/methods than i was expecting 09:57 < MillerBOSS> Select web bug /url token, enter your email address for notifications and a note for you. The URL that you get you can change the file ending so I change whatever.apx to youtube/channe/gibberish and I said here is my channel be cause he asked which channel was mine which made me believe he has a racket going on. 09:58 < MillerBOSS> 171.254.215.80 09:59 < MillerBOSS> City Hanoi 09:59 < MillerBOSS> Region Thanh Pho Ha Noi 09:59 < MillerBOSS> Organisation AS7552 Viettel Group 10:00 < AustinS> lmao what idiot manages that network ugh, 1/3 of the traceroutes PTR's after it gets to hong kong are "localhost" lmao. But yeah DSL there. 10:01 < MillerBOSS> http://viettel.com.vn/en/enterprise-services/other-services I bet its a VPS 10:02 < AustinS> several of the hops / the one right before that IP resolved to adsl.* so not sure, seems more residential 10:02 < AustinS> but .. wouldnt be surprised if thta network is just a giant mess of intermingled shit lol 10:02 < AustinS> / probably ISP that lets sketchy shit happen and tries to mask it, like everything else there 10:02 < MillerBOSS> They probably provide ISP service too the looks of the homepage 10:04 < MillerBOSS> And when I attempt to upload >We have received three notifications alleging copyright infringement in one of your postings. Consequently, your account is subject to termination. Your ability to post new videos has been suspended. Your access to your account will be completely disabled unless we receive from you a valid counter-notification disputing at least one of the claims by Jun 18, 2018. 10:04 < MillerBOSS> So I can only assume account is getting shit canned in 3 days 10:04 < MillerBOSS> RF-WIN10-001 Do you think that is a Windows 10 machine server? 10:05 < AustinS> do you have access to https://cms.youtube.com to submit a counterclaim? 10:05 <+layer-eight> * AustinS → ⚓ URL Redirected → YouTube 10:05 < MillerBOSS> That redirects me to https://www.youtube.com/dashboard?o=U 10:05 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → ⚓ URL Redirected → YouTube 10:05 < AustinS> windows server 2016 never registers as "win10" usually anywhere.. 10:05 < MillerBOSS> I mean that hostname of the last 4-2 hops 10:06 < AustinS> ah 10:06 < AustinS> i owuldnt be surprised if the ISP just installs windows 10 instead of windows server lmao. 10:06 < AustinS> hm i guess it does now for me too, but do you have "Content ID" in there? that's where claims/counterclaims woudl go 10:06 < MillerBOSS> https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-06-15-03-06-24-G.png 10:06 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → IMAGE/PNG; CHARSET=UTF-8 Document, 128,987 bytes 10:06 < AustinS> oh it probably registered for me diff (on linux/it doesnt have a fqdn) 10:07 < MillerBOSS> I got https://www.youtube.com/my_videos_copyright 10:07 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → ⚓ URL Redirected → YouTube 10:07 < AustinS> ah ok 10:07 < AustinS> it soudns like it'd only disable you if you didnt submit ANY sort of counter notification 10:07 < AustinS> brb 10:08 < MillerBOSS> You'd think >You have 3 or more strikes within a 90 day period. We may have to disable your account if you do not take any actions on your strikes within 7 days of receiving your 3rd strike. You can take steps to resolve these strikes and review their status by clicking on the video titles listed above 10:12 < MillerBOSS> But YouTube responded https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-06-15-at-3.10.12-AM-m.png 4 times like that. 10:12 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → IMAGE/PNG; CHARSET=UTF-8 Document, 109,477 bytes 10:12 < MillerBOSS> So oh well 10:41 < AustinS> ugh looking in downloads folder / finally clearing it out, these Comodo SSL forms for EV cert i had/have to fill out, but its so much effort/all random biz shit i dont want to find (I think I did it all, just never filled it out) 10:41 < AustinS> literally from 3 months ago.. oops. i should probably finish that.. being already paid for the cert :x 10:42 < MillerBOSS> Nah let em expire. :P 10:53 < AustinS> tru 11:06 < FenJai> Morning peeps 11:11 * MillerBOSS is listening to Dean Martin - That's Amore from the album Dean Martin: The Capitol Recordings, Vol. 4 (1952-1954) on Spotify. 11:12 < MillerBOSS> tinga ling tinga ling 11:16 < humpaxx> Top kek my lads 11:17 < humpaxx> Not sure if i should share this but one of my coworkers computer got compromised, he didnt have a windows password and it got all his saved credentials in his google acct 11:18 < humpaxx> still. 11:18 < humpaxx> He has 2FA on everything important tho 11:19 < MillerBOSS> I guess I am not the only one that hears Trailer Park Boys in I Left My Heart In San Francisco https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2_LjOezUPQ 11:19 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS → YouTube → Trailer Park Boys v. I Left My heart in San Francisco → ⚘ 727 ↑ 7 ↓ 0 ✍ 2 11:20 < MillerBOSS> >I was listening to I left my heart in San Francisco and I immediately googled the two. I'm so glad I'm not crazy. 11:20 < FenJai> Do tell humpaxx 11:20 < FenJai> Were there any system accounts in that list ? 11:21 < humpaxx> FenJai: not much to tell, he downloaded something that waited until his machine was inactive or something and then did some stuff, it was his personal PC so it wasnt in the domain or anything 11:22 < humpaxx> It did steal all our BTC tho. (roughly 230 dollars worth so not a big loss) 11:23 < FenJai> How so ? Was his wallet on his pc? 11:37 < humpaxx> FenJai: No it was an online wallet 11:37 < humpaxx> Both the login for the account and for the wallet to authorize transvers were saved... 11:37 < FenJai> Ouch 11:38 < humpaxx> But it doesnt affect me in any way so idc 11:39 < humpaxx> His own cryptocoints were protected with 2FA tho so he didn´t lose anything 11:42 < humpaxx> Trapdoor is still stuck in a container somewhere i assume 11:43 < humpaxx> A manager or w/e her role is at one of our clients called, the new guy nobody told me about "needs logins" 11:44 < humpaxx> "Logins to _what_? The intranet, his computer, the mobile PBX app??" 11:44 < humpaxx> His phone? 11:44 < humpaxx> "I don´t know" she says 11:46 < FenJai> Good, he's clearly fine then 11:47 < humpaxx> And then he(new guy) calls, all he needed was the AD password for his account 11:54 < FenJai> Whats you policy say about lead time on new accounts ? 11:54 < FenJai> Im putting one together to say 1 week 11:55 < AustinS> MillerBOSS, sent that email to my business tech contact and the claiming/legal-y contact too. just to see. :P 11:56 < AustinS> gonna run home and shower/eat/change clothes so people dont come back in office and realize im a piece of shit that doesnt go home D: bbs 11:57 < MillerBOSS> Awesome, thanks AustinS. 11:57 < MillerBOSS> You live at work too? 11:57 < MillerBOSS> Been here since 1pm 11:57 < MillerBOSS> The date & time is currently: Friday, June 15, 2018 at 4:57:25 AM 11:57 < FenJai> 5am 11:57 < FenJai> wut 11:59 <+ihre> go home MillerBOSS 12:01 < MillerBOSS> I am tempted but then I won't make it to work at 10am 12:01 < FenJai> Do you need to be ? 12:01 < MillerBOSS> It sucks because I usually get motivated after everyone is gone 12:02 < MillerBOSS> Do I need to be here, no, do I need to be here at 10 I am supposed to be. 12:02 < CoJaBo> humpaxx: I wish most of the tickets I get were even half that specific 12:03 < CoJaBo> At least once a week, I get a support ticket that says something like this: Subject: help Message: want member 12:03 <+ihre> 'shit is broke, pls fix asap!' 12:03 < CoJaBo> ihre: "want member" 12:03 < FenJai> Want member.... 12:03 < CoJaBo> pls respond (´・ω・`) 12:03 <+ihre> recruiting for their CSGO clan 12:14 < MillerBOSS> I am setting up auvik.com's software. One of the options for the collector is WMI. I have usually used SNMP. It seems to me WMI needs to be configured carefully else bad for security, is this correct? Collector for WMI is on the LAN. 12:15 <+ktechmidas> went to a pentesting job this afternoon, was given normal dev privs as requested.... managed to do "sudo /bin/cp /bin/bash /bin/gzip" then "sudo /bin/gzip" 12:15 <+ktechmidas> pwned 12:16 <+ktechmidas> since sudo was only giving certain applications to devs... but cp was one of them *facepalm* 12:16 < togenshi> lol 12:16 < togenshi> question is why need sudo in the first place 12:17 <+ktechmidas> their automation/rollout is basically a shitshow 12:17 < togenshi> also selinux must have been set to permissive 12:54 < catmando> hey all 12:54 < catmando> anyone about? 12:58 < FenJai> In theory, there shouldnt be any harm in buying a yubikey off amazon, right ? 12:59 < varesa> IIRC YubiCo themselves are on Amazon 13:00 < catmando> bit of a random question 13:00 < catmando> but i saw some talk on reddit r.e. svc 13:01 < catmando> i'm trying to create a partnership 13:01 < catmando> a remote fc partership 13:01 < catmando> and i am able to find the candidates on both sides 13:01 < catmando> the partnership goes to fully configured: stopped but when i try to start it moves to not found 13:37 < humpaxx> My new coworker has very little workexperience but a bunch of M$ certs 13:39 < humpaxx> He´s growing on me but getting interupted for simple questions is a bit annoying 13:55 < jaelae> give him a shot 13:55 < jaelae> or 13:55 < jaelae> make him get on IRC and ask his questions 14:21 < humpaxx> jaelae: then i´d have to teach him how to irc 14:22 < asimon> So the website of property management company for my new place won't let me log in 14:22 < asimon> and the password reset function didn't send me an email 14:22 < asimon> what do 14:23 < FenJai> Call them asimon ? 14:23 < asimon> I guess I'd have to call their outsourced website provider 14:24 < asimon> wait a second 14:24 < asimon> hold on 14:26 < asimon> nope 14:26 < asimon> I actually have a second account through them (appfolio) so I thought maybe there was some error where the two were merged in their db 14:35 < Casteil> well at least someone reads my docs 14:36 < Casteil> just got props from our corporate manager manager (he manages the general managers at our locations) for how comprehensive/detailed my software documentation is 14:38 < asimon> +1 14:38 <+CheckYourSix> Casteil: Good job 14:43 < Casteil> frankly I'm not super happy with it, it feels like a mess :P 14:43 < Casteil> it does look kinda fancy though with the theme and the screencaps 14:46 <+CheckYourSix> As long as they think it's good, that's what matters 14:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> happy --r--r--r friday you fucks 14:47 < Casteil> and I'd also like to wiki-fy it so that specific help topic can be hotlinked from the specific features 14:48 <@Code_Man65> You may rejoice, for Friday has arrived 14:49 < Casteil> indeed 14:49 < Casteil> also have monday off, long weekend, bitches! 14:49 <+CheckYourSix> Ugh. I overslept so much this morning. That means getting out at like 530 today instead of 330 14:49 < Casteil> o_o 14:49 <+CheckYourSix> Casteil: Fuck you, ok? 14:49 < Casteil> that's not oversleeping 14:50 <+CheckYourSix> I try to work 7-330 or 730-4. I hate being there after 4. Especially on a Friday 14:50 < Casteil> Ifeel you 14:50 < Casteil> I usually work around that too 14:50 < Casteil> usually shoot for like 7:30-3:30 lately, but it often ends up being 7:30-4 or 5 14:51 <@Code_Man65> I've done 7:30-4:30 since 2008 14:51 < Casteil> but I'm like 6 minutes from work so I get up around 7 14:51 <+CheckYourSix> I have flexible hours, so it's my choice what hours I work 14:51 <+CheckYourSix> I'm 8-10 minutes from work, depending on traffic lights 14:52 < humpaxx> Its always a DNS issue. Autodiscover wasn´t in the DNS record for the domain in AD (and they used company.tld instead of something like ad.company.tld) 14:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> I'm trying to convince my boss to let me give our old 2003 file server a viking funeral 14:52 < Casteil> yep.. my boss doesn't give a solid fuck when I work so long as we're "getting it done" 14:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> she didn't like the idea :( 14:52 < humpaxx> Not to pat myself too hard but i concider myself quite a decent sysadmin 14:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> s/pat/fap 14:52 <+layer-eight> [SED McDonaldsWiFi/humpaxx] Not to fap myself too hard but i concider myself quite a decent sysadmin 14:52 < humpaxx> McDonaldsWiFi: Use the etherkiller 14:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL 14:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> or I could just open it directly to WAN and like the internet kill it 14:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> let the* 14:53 < rcalcines> Hey 14:53 < rcalcines> Hi 14:53 < humpaxx> PM me ur IP and admin right and i´ll connect through 7 proxies and hak u 14:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> hahahah 14:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> no 14:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> ;P 14:54 < rcalcines> on a VM restored by VEEM image backup we The D disk drive is not formatted 14:54 < humpaxx> I just saw a teamviewer ID with 10 digits 14:55 < humpaxx> Its been a while since that happened for me. 14:55 < rcalcines> Why would a image backup have a corupt d drive? 14:58 < technonerd> It cant handle the D 15:01 < McDonaldsWiFi> im curious too... 15:01 < McDonaldsWiFi> are all the backups that way? 15:01 < McDonaldsWiFi> unsupported format? I dunno much about veem backups xD 15:01 < varesa> maybe it was set to not backup the drive? 15:05 < Nightcinder> https://images.anandtech.com/doci/12960/Glam.gif 15:05 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder → IMAGE/GIF Document, 12,483,837 bytes 15:17 < abakedapplepie> incompetence must reign supreme at my ISP 15:17 < abakedapplepie> the whole city has been down for almost 24 hours now due to a single fiber cut 15:17 < abakedapplepie> apparently some circuits are up at least 15:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> i had to login to my admin portal 15:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> but i forgot why 15:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> abakedapplepie do you know why i logged in? 15:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> Nightcinder do you? 15:19 < corn266> no 15:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> xD 15:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> :( 15:19 < Nightcinder> to admin things 15:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> itslike when you walk in a room for a specific reason but then forget why you came 15:21 < officerrando1> what up guys 15:21 < varesa> effing VMware. The flash client started throwing a #1009 and #2007 errors, clearing the SerenityDB is of no use and the HTML5 client is missing half the stuff I need :-| 15:21 < abakedapplepie> mmmm flash 15:24 < corn266> You need to update the your 2007 version of runescape client to the latest version 15:24 < varesa> I can almost get by by closing the error dialogs once they appear (a few times per minute) but sometimes it just grays out/freezes the whole UI 15:25 < McDonaldsWiFi> i always get said when I hear "runescape classic" and its the 2007 version 15:25 < McDonaldsWiFi> bitch that aint classic 15:25 < corn266> you're right, rs3 makes runescape classic look like runescape prehistoric 15:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> runescape vintage 15:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> I really miss that version.. man 15:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> the day I beat that dragon.. 12 year old me was so happy lol 15:26 < corn266> which dragon though 15:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> the quest 15:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> the last free player quest at the time 15:27 < Hatter> Nightcinder: what is that 15:27 < McDonaldsWiFi> had to have that special sheild right? 15:27 < McDonaldsWiFi> i can't remember 15:27 < corn266> looooooooooooooool shit 15:27 < corn266> nah i feel ya 15:27 < McDonaldsWiFi> that's peak RS for me lol 15:27 < corn266> same, but I still log on for ports and herb runs daily 15:27 < McDonaldsWiFi> man, fucking lobbys all day 15:27 < McDonaldsWiFi> that was the life lol 15:27 < abakedapplepie> >herb runs 15:28 < Nightcinder> Hatter: it's RAM 15:28 < McDonaldsWiFi> i ended up being able to craft addy daggers and I thought I was the shit 15:28 < McDonaldsWiFi> xD 15:28 < McDonaldsWiFi> i wonder if my account still exists... damn guys 15:28 < Hatter> Nightcinder: it looks a bit like the storage device Mantrid put himself into, know what I mean? 15:29 < abakedapplepie> hide yo firewalls 15:29 < corn266> https://apps.runescape.com/runemetrics/app/overview/player/corn266 15:29 <+layer-eight> * corn266 → RuneMetrics - RuneScape player profiles and stat tracking 15:31 < asimon> holy shit are we really talking about run escape in here 15:31 < asimon> I haven't thought about that in years 15:33 < corn266> yea i'll smack your noob ass up 15:34 < Hatter> no offense, but I heard that game was for nerds 15:34 < asimon> s/no/ 15:35 < Hatter> it's really annoying when kibana uses similar colors in a bar graph or the like 15:36 < technonerd> rs server ran on pentium 4 15:36 < Hatter> most especially on a pie chart 15:36 < Hatter> is there no way to prevent such a thing? 15:36 < corn266> stop being color blind? 15:37 < corn266> legit looking at their front page I think they only use red and green 15:38 <@JollyRgrs> wow, did i just step into the nerd convention? 15:39 <@JollyRgrs> my bad, i'll find the exit on my own 15:39 < corn266> where you going JollyRgrs you scheduled this convention 15:39 <@JollyRgrs> i most certainly did not 15:40 <@JollyRgrs> while you were playing runescape I was.... uh... what year(s) was Runescape? 15:40 < alazare619> 2003 15:40 < alazare619> to now 15:40 < alazare619> runescape is still huge 15:40 <@JollyRgrs> 2003? I was playing whatver MOH/COD game was out 15:40 < FenJai> Jesus thats an old game 15:40 <@JollyRgrs> and maybe add in some random red faction or something 15:41 < alazare619> in 2003 i was playing CNC 15:41 < alazare619> and RL2 15:41 < FenJai> As in the lathe alazare619 ? 15:41 < alazare619> err 15:41 < alazare619> CNC RL2 15:41 < alazare619> command and conquer: Red Alert 2 15:41 < abakedapplepie> Dune > CNC 15:41 <@Code_Man65> In 2003 I was playing Tribes 2 15:42 < abakedapplepie> i fucking loved Dune 15:42 < alazare619> also d2 and star craft 15:42 < abakedapplepie> in 2003 i was running 2 dozen D2 bots 15:42 < abakedapplepie> lol 15:42 < abakedapplepie> back when people would isntall kazaa and share c:\, i used to take people's key pair .dlls for D2 and bot 15:42 < abakedapplepie> i had close to a hundred working key pairs 15:42 < alazare619> runescape came out technically in 2001 15:42 < alazare619> but it got really big around 2003 15:43 < asimon> You know what else came out in 2001 15:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> 9/11 15:43 < asimon> And got really big around 2003 15:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> too soon? 15:43 < Hatter> don't you guys know there are newer and cooler games out now 15:43 <@JollyRgrs> asimon: CNC Red Lert 2? 15:43 < asimon> JollyRgrs: Maybe. I was thinking US islamophobia 15:44 < alazare619> islam is not a peaceful relgion 15:44 < Hatter> I agree alazare619, but be careful! 15:44 < asimon> neither is pretty much any other religion though 15:44 < alazare619> the quaran litterally talks about converting or decaping 15:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> ehhh 15:44 < estranger> friday, bitches 15:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> god literally drown all his children 15:44 < Hatter> asimon: Christianity has a lovely New Testament which is all about peace and love 15:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> so who wins lol 15:45 < estranger> god never drowned ALL his children 15:45 <@JollyRgrs> ^^ 15:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> like all things in like, its usually a gray area. 15:45 < alazare619> like your holly bible equivelant litterally tells you to convert people or kill them...theres no way around that you are not practicing a peaceful religion... 15:45 < asimon> Hatter: And also a lovely set of wars called the crusades 15:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> nothign is black and white, and seeing it that way is dishonest 15:45 <@JollyRgrs> holly bible? is that what is used during Christmastime? 15:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> ^^ 15:45 < estranger> how many of each animal did Moses take onto the ark? 15:45 <@JollyRgrs> McDonaldsWiFi: it doesn't matter if you're black or white 15:45 * JollyRgrs hehe's 15:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> huehuehue 15:45 <@JollyRgrs> no 15:46 <@JollyRgrs> not huehue... hehe 15:46 < alazare619> asimon: the crusades were when the average IQ was potato 15:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> but let's be honest, mac users are sub-human 15:46 < alazare619> in modern day in age there is 0 excuse for the way the islams act now 15:46 * JollyRgrs grads his crotch and lifts up, abruptly 15:46 * estranger looks at his mbp 15:46 < Hatter> I think the crusades were cool 15:46 < asimon> cool as in neat or cool as in justified? 15:46 < estranger> I believe in sending all of our children into war, yes 15:46 <@JollyRgrs> OMG... 15:46 < Hatter> so many great characters 15:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> oh god 15:47 <@JollyRgrs> this dude just used the black dude from IT Crowd as his O365 avatar 15:47 <@JollyRgrs> ... 15:47 < asimon> yikes 15:47 < estranger> heres your pike and dagger lil jonny, FOR GOD AND KINGDOM! 15:47 < Hatter> King Richard, Saladin, Baldwin 15:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> JollyRgrs: LOL 15:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> alazare619: I'm just trying to poke you, I'm sorry 15:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> my wife doesn't like it either 15:47 <@JollyRgrs> McDonaldsWiFi: no means no 15:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> DUM DUM TSHHHH 15:47 < estranger> hmm i didnt think she seemed to mind 15:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> ayyyyyyy 15:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> fuckin gotem 15:48 < syere> hell ya, half day friday! 15:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> my wife got me good the other day, I wasn't even made. SHe works at a hospital and I asked her if she was messing with one of the doctors on teh side 15:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> she said "Well I dunno if he's a doctor or not" 15:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> fuckin rekt 15:48 < estranger> lol 15:49 < estranger> i keep my wife locked inside 15:49 <+AnonymooseWork> lol McDonaldsWiFi 15:49 < AnimalFarmPig> gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool 15:49 <+AnonymooseWork> hmmm 15:49 < Hatter> I said you dirty dog 15:49 < AnimalFarmPig> 89th minute, uruguay just scored 15:49 <+AnonymooseWork> anyone here every come across an issue with an O365 migration where the mailbox size doesn't match on prem and in cloud? 15:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> AnonymooseWork: where's the a 15:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> GOL 15:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> or GOOL 15:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> or GOOOOOOL 15:49 <+AnonymooseWork> ? 15:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> opps 15:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> AnimalFarmPig: 15:50 <+AnonymooseWork> McDonaldsWiFi what do u mean? 15:50 < estranger> WHERES THE BEEF? 15:50 <+AnonymooseWork> heh 15:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> AnonymooseWork: wrong highlight sorry 15:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> AnonymooseWork: what are you using to migrate? 15:50 <+AnonymooseWork> okie i was confused 15:50 < AnimalFarmPig> McDonaldsWiFi: I'm watching telemundo 15:50 <+AnonymooseWork> McDonaldsWiFi its a hybrid, i'm using the migration console in O365 15:50 < AnimalFarmPig> so, it's spelled gol 15:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> AnonymooseWork: might need to up your licenses? 15:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> from E1 to E2 or higher 15:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> doesn't that give you more storage? 15:51 < AnimalFarmPig> because apparently the english language channels don't want to bother showing World Cup. Good chance to practice spanish anyway 15:51 < estranger> no more good sports until hockey starts up again 15:51 <+AnonymooseWork> McDonaldsWiFi - naw we're on E5 15:52 <+AnonymooseWork> 100Gb for everyone 15:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> oh shit 15:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> damn boi 15:52 <+AnonymooseWork> ya 15:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> AnonymooseWork: your users have archives or something weird? 15:52 <+AnonymooseWork> mom and dad gave the IT departments a healthy budget 15:53 <+AnonymooseWork> McDonaldsWiFi no i checked for archive that was my first thought 15:53 < estranger> Anonymoose is it the same version of on prem and in the cloud? dunno if that is a dumb question, but i know exchange storage system changes beween versions and that can make up differences in mbox size 15:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> AnonymooseWork: what's teh quotas set as 15:53 <+AnonymooseWork> estranger - no its Exchange 2010 vs EOL 15:53 <+AnonymooseWork> McDonaldsWiFi quota on prem ? or in cloud? 15:53 <+AnonymooseWork> in cloud the quota is set to 100Gb 15:53 <+AnonymooseWork> on prem they don't have quotas 15:53 < estranger> 2010, gross 15:54 <+AnonymooseWork> estranger yeah 15:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> both 15:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> hmmm 15:54 < Hatter> guys this is embarrassing, but I'm not a graphic artist alright, what's the easiest way to turn my map icons with awful white backgrounds into proper transparent images 15:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> paint.net boi 15:54 <+AnonymooseWork> lol 15:54 < Hatter> don't laugh 15:54 <+AnonymooseWork> I wonder if its not syncing deleted items or something 15:54 < estranger> Hatter, what OS 15:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> yeah i was gonna say 15:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> check that garbage lol 15:54 < Hatter> Windows 10 what do you mean 15:55 < McDonaldsWiFi> garbage as in.. .deleted stuff xD 15:55 < McDonaldsWiFi> Hatter: user paint.net... the program 15:55 < McDonaldsWiFi> use* 15:55 < estranger> ahh.. cus I use Paint S on mac to do that stuff 15:55 < namol> AnonymooseWork: like say their mailbox is actually 10GB on prem, but when going to o365 it shows up as like 15GB and it says oh no, not large enough! 15:55 < McDonaldsWiFi> you can dlete the white background to make it transparent 15:55 < Hatter> estranger: fucking mac, what were the chances I was actually using a mac 15:55 < estranger> is paint.net hte new ms paint? 15:55 < estranger> Hatter, pretty good 15:55 < Hatter> estranger: We go back a bit but you've annoyed me 15:55 < estranger> Hatter, im good at that =) 15:56 < Hatter> I will try paint.net 15:56 <+AnonymooseWork> namol - ON premise the user has a 65gb mailbox 15:57 <+AnonymooseWork> in the cloud its 32gb 15:57 < abakedapplepie> paint.net is neat 15:58 < abakedapplepie> i use it because its in ninite 15:58 <+AnonymooseWork> gimp can work too 15:58 < abakedapplepie> gimp is a behemoth 15:59 < Hatter> behweemoth 15:59 < Hatter> remember how steven wright said that word in reservoir dogs 15:59 < Hatter> I love that 15:59 <@JollyRgrs> gimp takes so friggin long to load 15:59 <@JollyRgrs> but i like it once it is running 15:59 < humpaxx> And learn 15:59 <@JollyRgrs> no more difficult to learn than photoshop? 15:59 < estranger> why am I Mr Pink? 16:00 < Hatter> because you're a faggot alright 16:00 < GreyKite> doesn't pink die? 16:00 < Hatter> don't kick me, I was setup 16:00 < humpaxx> JollyRgrs: no 16:01 < Hatter> https://youtu.be/8mto3YoSIEM?t=38 16:01 < humpaxx> 1hr until weekend o´clock 16:01 <+layer-eight> * Hatter → ⚓ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mto3YoSIEM&feature=youtu.be&t=38 → YouTube → K Billy Dialogue from Reservoir Dogs → ⚘ 23,482 ↑ 127 ↓ 1 ✍ 24 16:01 < humpaxx> 59 minutes :> 16:01 < Hatter> GreyKite: they all die, spoiler alert 16:02 < GreyKite> Hatter: I've seen the movie 16:02 < GreyKite> a few times in fact 16:02 < humpaxx> I figured out the problem i was having with new vhosts being redirected to the default site in apache2 yesterday. \o/ 16:02 < Hatter> Pink leaves the warehouse, but you can hear him getting into a fight with the cops 16:02 < GreyKite> the beauty of having a shitty memory is that everything is fresh each time I watch it 16:03 < GreyKite> humpaxx: Yay! 16:03 < estranger> i need a wired headset w/ noise cancelling 16:03 <+AnonymooseWork> over the ear? 16:03 < estranger> should prob just finally get those Bose that are over priced 16:03 <+AnonymooseWork> Bose works great 16:03 < estranger> in the ear I prefer 16:03 <+AnonymooseWork> oh 16:03 <+AnonymooseWork> I have a set of the in ear ones 16:03 <+AnonymooseWork> I love it 16:03 <+AnonymooseWork> can't hear shit with the noise canceling on 16:03 < estranger> its more i dont want people im talking to to hear shit 16:04 < khelpw> estranger: QC25 is probably your best option, or you could use Sony WH1ks 16:04 < estranger> if im in a loud environment i have to use my phone w/o a headset to get the cancelling 16:04 < khelpw> some people like Senny HD4.5s (the sony's and sennys both have bluetooth as well) 16:04 < estranger> in the ear 16:05 < khelpw> Oh, in ear look at etmotic. ANC in in-ears is pretty crappy tbh 16:05 < khelpw> what you're going to want is isolation. 16:05 < GreyKite> dah 16:05 < khelpw> Etymotics have great isolation, but by default their triple-flange tips are brain-drills 16:05 < GreyKite> khelpw: you don't like the brain drills? 16:05 < Hatter> I get really uncomfortable when people refer to them as ear dildos 16:05 < khelpw> Nope, but I do love the etys. I've got a pair of ER4XRs that I listen to for ~8hrs a day m-f 16:06 < Hatter> let's stop calling them that please 16:06 < khelpw> You're the only one calling them that. 16:06 < khelpw> but they will 100% violate your orifices. 16:06 < Hatter> I never will again 16:06 < estranger> khelpw, this is for phone calls specifically.. the noise cancelling is for the benefit of the people I am talking to 16:07 < khelpw> So you want to be able to better hear the people you're talking to? Or are you looking for something with a good mic so they can hear you? 16:07 < GreyKite> khelpw: I can't do IEM for that long, doesn't matter the brand 16:07 < GreyKite> I've got overears that I rock like that though 16:07 < khelpw> GreyKite: try messing around with different tips. It took me a LOT of messing around to settle on the ones I like (Comply Isolation) 16:08 < GreyKite> khelpw: meh, I like overears 16:08 < felda> lmao finally 16:08 < khelpw> My over-ears are very comfortable as well (My HE-560s have swapped pads), but they're all open-back and require a good amp - not something I'm going to carry around and use at the office 16:08 < GreyKite> felda: lmao 16:08 < felda> my S7 Edge finally updated to Android 8.0 16:08 < alazare619> after i got twrp installed can i relock the boot loader? 16:08 < GreyKite> khelpw: heh, I have an amp at work 16:08 < alazare619> woops 16:08 < khelpw> the ety's sit in a nice little leather pouch I made for em, I got custom cables made with a mic so I can use em for phone calls etc 16:08 < alazare619> wrong chan 16:09 < estranger> khelpw, im looking for something to help them hear me better in a noisey environment.. for example if im talking in an airport and use my phone directly to talk with people they hear me fine.. the phone has built in cancelling.. but if I switch to my headset they hear all the background noise 16:09 < estranger> talking into a phone directly is annoying 16:10 < khelpw> Android phone? 16:10 < estranger> yup 16:11 < khelpw> Yeah, I've noticed that, even on wired mics. The software that does the noise canceling that is used on the phones mic just seems to be better overall. 16:12 < estranger> yeah.. i like wired mics too so i dont have to charge them all the time... but if im going to active noise cancelling ill have to charge it anyhow, so i guess i dont care if its wired or not 16:16 <@JollyRgrs> jawbone's are great for talking in high noise areas 16:16 < estranger> JollyRgrs, for me or the people listening to me? 16:16 <@JollyRgrs> wait, which are you wanting? 16:16 < khelpw> the latter. 16:16 <@JollyRgrs> yeah, it helps wit hteh latter 16:16 < estranger> does it use vibrations for the mic too? 16:17 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMWXB2mwXO4 16:17 < estranger> well i guess thats a dumb question.. all mics are technically vibrations 16:17 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs → YouTube → Jawbone NoiseAssassin Demo — Construction Site → ⚘ 197 ↑ 0 ↓ 0 ✍ 2 16:17 <+AnonymooseWork> ffs 16:17 <+AnonymooseWork> boss has moved our meeting 5x times this week 16:17 < estranger> JollyRgrs, cool ill check that after this call 16:18 <@JollyRgrs> and thsi was back in like 2011 or so 16:18 <@JollyRgrs> hopefully it only got better, not worse 16:18 <@JollyRgrs> also, i've washed my jawbones in my pants numerous times 16:18 <@JollyRgrs> they survive remarkably well 16:18 < estranger> lol thats a big plus for me too 16:18 <@JollyRgrs> probably dropped their overall lifespam 16:19 <@JollyRgrs> lifespan 16:19 <@JollyRgrs> but still, it survived 16:19 < estranger> im a klutz 16:19 <@JollyRgrs> when i worked a geek squad, we got the original jawbone for free and also like the next model after that 16:19 <@JollyRgrs> they worked really well, i liked them 16:21 < estranger> JollyRgrs, uh oh the comments on youtube arent looking good 16:21 <@JollyRgrs> orly? 16:21 < felda> HELP MY FACEBOOK KEEPS MOVING TOO FAST I CANT STOP IT 16:21 < felda> uh wut 16:21 < felda> had space bar held down 16:21 <@JollyRgrs> oh, they are saying the newer ones aren't as good :( 16:21 < estranger> JollyRgrs, like they stopped making headsets and now just make health tracking wrist bands? i didnt research past youtube yet though to confirm 16:22 <@JollyRgrs> they do https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/6/15931080/jawbone-going-out-of-business-report 16:22 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs → Jawbone is going out of business - The Verge 16:22 <@JollyRgrs> seems even worse 16:22 <@JollyRgrs> they are gone 16:22 < estranger> doh 16:22 <@JollyRgrs> Co-founder and chief executive Hosain Rahman has moved onto a new company, Jawbone Health Hub, that will primarily focus on health-related products and services 16:23 < estranger> >:O 16:23 < nurgle> 3 more hours 16:23 < nurgle> then key west bitches 16:23 < binaryhermit> I think some fitbit employees got charged with a crime for misappropriating jawbone trade secrets 16:23 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.amazon.com/Jawbone-ERA-Bluetooth-Headset-Shadowbox/dp/B004K1EDG2 16:24 <@JollyRgrs> i would NOT buy used though 16:24 < FenJai> Is it possible to create a windows 7 iso with the drivers from SDI to create a universal installer image ? 16:24 <@JollyRgrs> but i bet you could still find some new in box, just dirt old 16:24 <@JollyRgrs> drivers from SDI? 16:24 < arisum> Hey, could anyone have any ideas why `filebeat modules enable apache2` takes too long? It's been doing this on multiple servers and I have no idea what's causing it. 16:24 <@JollyRgrs> universal installer image? like what you'd make via SCCM or MDT? 16:25 < FenJai> JollyRgrs, snappy driver installer. Basically a cache of drivers which helps identify and install and missing drivers 16:25 <@JollyRgrs> estranger: dang, i'm really sad now... i don't even know what i'd get if i tried to get another BT headset for phone 16:26 < estranger> :< 16:26 <@JollyRgrs> FenJai: make an MDT image and have it install SDI? (idunno) 16:26 <@JollyRgrs> estranger: tbh though, i mostly only use BT in the car now, or just as headphones... most of my phone talking not-on-headset is in the car 16:26 < estranger> yeah I talk all the damn time on my phone 16:26 < FenJai> Im kind of hoping to have it pull the drivers as it needs during the install. Specifically things like NVMe drivers JollyRgrs 16:28 <@JollyRgrs> FenJai: hahaha... so you want something like MDT where you can perform tasks in WinPE 16:28 <@JollyRgrs> you won't be able to do that jsut from a standard windows iso 16:28 < darkscrypt> got a question for you guys. I have a server 2012 that has users that I want to audit. Previous guy wrote a lot of custom vbscript stuff that this whole department is totally dependent on, and now he is gone. What I want to do is monitor the workflow of these users (their approval has been granted obv.) 16:28 < darkscrypt> anybody know of any good ways to essentially get logs of what programs and scripts they run, and when 16:29 < darkscrypt> they will be connected to this server over RDP, so everything would be done inside a TS Session. 16:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> a audit solution of some kind.. 16:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> event vewier could technically do it but fuck that lol 16:29 <@JollyRgrs> darkscrypt: SCCM can track program execution... not sure how it would handle wscript.exe / cscript.exe though 16:29 < darkscrypt> sccm isn't on this though. 16:30 <@JollyRgrs> oh, it's on a TS 16:30 <@JollyRgrs> i see 16:30 < darkscrypt> yea 16:30 < FenJai> So a super universal golden image isnt possible JollyRgrs ? 16:30 < FenJai> One image which can be installed on them all 16:30 < FenJai> One driver store to find them 16:30 <@JollyRgrs> FenJai: our horribly bloated install from global (due to their lack of undertanding how Dell family drive cabs work) is like 70+GB big... and most all of that is drivers 16:31 <@JollyRgrs> and that only supports a dozen or so models 16:31 <@JollyRgrs> FenJai: if you are just installing a wim (not performing work in a PE environment)... then it will need to have ALL storage and network drivers loaded so it can recognize those devices prior to first boot 16:32 <@JollyRgrs> would be MUCH easier making a task sequence in MDT and make an .iso from that 16:32 <@JollyRgrs> also... anyone else listen to the new mike shinoda ablum? it's not bad 16:33 < FenJai> Okay, what about this. The reason I want a golden image is because managment bought a laptop and I need to install windows 7 on it. However, the driver page on lenovos page doesnt officially support windows 7. My plan was to build a golden image which would fetch the missing drivers during the install 16:34 < Nightcinder> tell management to shove it up their ass 16:34 <@JollyRgrs> FenJai: what chipset does it have? 16:34 < Nightcinder> tell them that windows 7 isn't supported and you need to put 10 on it 16:35 <@JollyRgrs> if it is kabylake, then no go 16:35 < felda> JollyRgrs not all of us listen to pretentious smut like Mike Shinoda 16:35 < felda> I only listen to Yoko Ono 16:35 <@JollyRgrs> felda: eh, the album is pretty good so far 16:35 <@JollyRgrs> i dunno much about him from a personal perspective 16:35 < Nightcinder> i heard it's very whiny 16:35 < Nightcinder> but it's his coping album so that's expected 16:35 <@JollyRgrs> Nightcinder: yeah 16:36 <@JollyRgrs> but it seems fairly sincere, honest, etc. 16:36 < Nightcinder> well i'm pretty sure they were best friends.. 16:36 <@JollyRgrs> i'm listening less to lyrics and more to music at this point though 16:36 < Nightcinder> so yeah 16:36 <@JollyRgrs> yeah 16:36 < FenJai> Not sure JollyRgrs. Why does it matter ? 16:36 < Nightcinder> because kaby lake isn't supported on windows 7 16:36 <@JollyRgrs> FenJai: b/c kabylake isn't supported on win7 16:36 < JFDkthx> AnimalFarmPig: hey you busy? 16:36 <@JollyRgrs> won't be able to get any windows updates, even though it TECHNICALLY will install 16:36 <@JollyRgrs> and most likely, they bought a kabylake comptuer 16:37 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.pcworld.com/article/3189990/windows/microsoft-blocks-kaby-lake-and-ryzen-pcs-from-windows-7-81-updates.html 16:37 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs → Microsoft blocks Kaby Lake and Ryzen PCs from Windows 7, 8 updates | PCWorld 16:38 < FenJai> How unsupported are we talking JollyRgrs ? I've used this before to get a similar laptop running windows 7 16:38 < FenJai> https://github.com/zeffy/wufuc 16:38 <+layer-eight> * FenJai → GitHub → zeffy → wufuc → Disables the "Unsupported Hardware" message in Windows Update, and allows you to continue installing updates on Windows 7 and 8.1 systems with Intel Kaby Lake, AMD Ryzen, or other unsupported processors. → @ ~ 24 days ago → C → ✡ 979 → Forks: 118 → ☹ 2 16:39 < AnimalFarmPig> JFDkthx: what's up? 16:39 < corn266> Anyone have thoughts on Arris Surfboard SB8200 modem? 16:39 <@JollyRgrs> does that really sound like a good solution for an enterprise? 16:39 < corn266> JFDkthx: WE GOT AUTHORIZATION 16:39 < JFDkthx> AnimalFarmPig: 2 more tree names for servers. so far i've got baobap and breadfruit 16:39 < JFDkthx> corn266: noice! 16:39 < JFDkthx> they give you any guff? 16:39 < corn266> with the condition that we seal up the paperwork within 6 months 16:39 < corn266> otherwise our rep didn't give a shit 16:39 < JFDkthx> yeah 16:40 < Nightcinder> maaaan 16:40 < AnimalFarmPig> JFDkthx: Moringa and myrtle 16:40 < Nightcinder> my girlfriend is at my house for the day 16:40 <@JollyRgrs> FenJai: also, how long until some update actually BREAKS win7 on kaby lake? 16:40 <@JollyRgrs> will you know before it happens? 16:40 < Nightcinder> i really thought about scaring the fuck out of her 16:40 < JFDkthx> AnimalFarmPig: already got a moringa. will use myrtle 16:40 < Nightcinder> and casting spotify to my shield 16:40 < corn266> Nightcinder: you should leave a horse head in the bed 16:40 < AnimalFarmPig> JFDkthx: oops... okay.... hmmm.... give me a minute 16:40 < Nightcinder> FenJai: really m8 16:40 < Nightcinder> i'd fire you in a minute 16:41 < JFDkthx> Nightcinder: i can acess my tv with my phone. turn it on. and chromecast the ring. 16:41 < JFDkthx> then call her after she turns the tv off 16:41 < Nightcinder> i have full control of my house via smartthings/harmony/spotify 16:41 < syere> text to speech, say some fucked up stuff over the stereo 16:41 < FenJai> Nightcinder, Whys that ? 16:41 < Nightcinder> FenJai: because it's officially not supported 16:41 < Nightcinder> and windows 7 is deprecated 16:41 < AnimalFarmPig> JFDkthx: Jacaranda 16:41 < JFDkthx> syere: the (((globalists))) have it coming 16:41 < JFDkthx> AnimalFarmPig: nice! 16:41 < Nightcinder> you're forcing a janky workaround to make it work 16:42 < AnimalFarmPig> JFDkthx: thanks! 16:42 < Nightcinder> if the user needs windows 7 so bad tell em they have to use an older laptop 16:42 < FenJai> Im kind of stuck with windows 7 due to this archaic software that was written specifically for the company 16:42 < JFDkthx> AnimalFarmPig: thats satisfying to type 16:42 < Nightcinder> then you're stuck with old hardware 16:42 < JFDkthx> anything with alternating letters is fun 16:42 <@JollyRgrs> FenJai: then they specifically need to buy skylake or those skabylake computers 16:42 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah 16:43 < Nightcinder> we run our 'special software' in a terminal server 16:43 < Nightcinder> so they RDP from their computer into it 16:43 <@JollyRgrs> ^^ 16:43 < AnimalFarmPig> JFDkthx: oooo, instead of myrtle (which is fun because of spelling), you could also do mopane (pronounced moe-pon-ee), because obscure 16:43 < Nightcinder> much easier than trying to maintain it elsewhere 16:43 <@JollyRgrs> there's also the windows Virtual stuff 16:43 < Nightcinder> i really should figure out how to set up remoteapp 16:43 < JFDkthx> i'll rename myrtle 16:43 < Nightcinder> so they don't have to RDP 16:43 <@JollyRgrs> there's ways to make it work from win10 16:44 < JFDkthx> whats great about it. is my coworkers wont know what im talking about because of the pronounciation 16:44 < FenJai> Alrighty then. If I go ahead with windows 10, I was under the impression windows 10 was a pain to manage compared to windows 7 ? 16:44 < AnimalFarmPig> exactly :) 16:45 < Nightcinder> pain to manage how? 16:45 < Nightcinder> i haven't noticed any real issues 16:45 < Nightcinder> are you trying to lock it down as hard as possible? that's tougher to do 16:45 < estranger> win10 has a bunch of extra hooks/apis to make managing it even easier I thought 16:45 < Nightcinder> JollyRgrs: i'm tempted to try setting up rdweb/remoteapp for the singular app they use RDP for.. 16:46 < officerrando1> the only frustating part for me so far has been all the telemetry and default installed apps 16:46 < FenJai> Well do things like remove the gaming apps from the enterprise version of the iso 16:46 < Nightcinder> i'm not sure how it'll work but it'd be interesting 16:46 < Nightcinder> enterprise has more options 16:46 < Nightcinder> personally? i don't give a fuck about the default installed apps 16:46 < Nightcinder> i leave em 16:46 < Nightcinder> fuck it 16:46 < officerrando1> also, win 10 is more difficult to manage patches with 3rd party agents. 16:46 <@JollyRgrs> FenJai: if you (like my stupid company) only get the Pro license for Win10, there's extra hoops if you want to full control everything 16:47 <@JollyRgrs> but if you have enterprise, you're fine 16:47 < Nightcinder> we have pro! 16:47 < Nightcinder> woo 16:47 < Nightcinder> i asked for an enterprise license 16:47 < Nightcinder> was denied 16:47 <@JollyRgrs> officerrando: that's why you get SCCM b/c it's baller 16:47 < Nightcinder> does SCCM cost money 16:47 < Nightcinder> i don't remember 16:47 < officerrando> JollyRgrs: my biggest client is 70 people or so. below that, about 30. we're smb 16:48 <@JollyRgrs> i told them the same thing... but this was a "global" decision... and mostly b/c they let all teh countries choose options... mixes of McAfee FDE vs BitLocker and Win10 Pro vs Enterprise and MBAM vs McAfee managing bitlocker, etc. 16:48 <@JollyRgrs> officerrando: i've seen many MSPs setup SCCM to manage all their customers at once 16:48 <@JollyRgrs> SCCM is only licensed per device, no cost (aside from hardware) for running the server 16:49 < officerrando> that's waaaaay more effort than it's worth. we use continuum. they're adding patching stuff for win 10 now 16:49 <@JollyRgrs> now? 16:49 <@JollyRgrs> like... 3 yrs late? 16:49 <@JollyRgrs> do they handle O365 updates? 16:49 < officerrando> *shrug* 16:49 <@JollyRgrs> that'll be another 5 yrs before they support that 16:49 < officerrando> for office apps? 16:49 < FenJai> Keep in mind, I dont ahve windows server. Im dealing with an office who wants to go FOSS as much as possible. 16:50 < officerrando> it updates office. 16:50 <@JollyRgrs> FenJai: no windows server.. FOSS as much as possible... but has LOB critical app that runs win7 only... 16:50 <+AnonymooseWork> lol JollyRgrs 16:50 <@JollyRgrs> officerrando: office 365 or just office installed via MSI? 16:50 <+AnonymooseWork> that sounds brilliant 16:50 < FenJai> Also self host as much as possible JollyRgrs 16:50 <+AnonymooseWork> FenJai that sounds kinda bass ackwards 16:51 <+AnonymooseWork> We have a similar sort of issue with certain things here 16:51 <+AnonymooseWork> they don't want to pay for PagerDuty 16:51 <+AnonymooseWork> so they're working on their own solution 16:51 <@JollyRgrs> FenJai: we only make fun of this out of love and that hopefully you'll go back to your mgmt and be like "the internet laughs at us b/c we are so backwoods" 16:51 <+AnonymooseWork> dumb as f 16:51 < officerrando> JollyRgrs: both. most of our clients are on 365. some have existing office licenses. it updates both iirc. 16:51 < abakedapplepie> lol sounds like me... 16:51 < abakedapplepie> i just set up crm on a technet license for mass mailing because my boss doesnt want to pay $60/mo for a mass mailing service 16:52 <@JollyRgrs> officerrando: o365 updates on its own... but to FORCE the updates, you gotta GPO a specific date/time (down to the minute or second) 16:52 <+AnonymooseWork> JollyRgrs oh ya? 16:52 < FenJai> Im aware. I came into the job thinking I could turn it around while sticking to the requirements but Im finding out this is not how to do things 16:52 <@JollyRgrs> other than managing it with SCCM, i'm not aware of any third parties to do that 16:52 <+AnonymooseWork> hmm 16:52 <+AnonymooseWork> JollyRgrs what about intune? 16:52 <@JollyRgrs> well, intune is a MSFT product, it might 16:52 <@JollyRgrs> sccm and intune overlap a lot, but i've never dealt with intune personally 16:52 <+AnonymooseWork> i think JollyRgrs and I are kinda on the same page though 16:52 <+AnonymooseWork> eating a lot of the MS dogfood 16:53 <+AnonymooseWork> i'm taking full advantage of my E5 licenses 16:53 <@JollyRgrs> you don't feed a cat dog food, or a fish cat food 16:53 < abakedapplepie> says who 16:53 < abakedapplepie> oh that reminds me my dog is out of food 16:53 <@JollyRgrs> well, you could feed a tuna, tuna... but it might get mad tuna disease 16:53 <+AnonymooseWork> lol 16:53 <+AnonymooseWork> why do fish sing out of key? 16:54 < officerrando> JollyRgrs: ok, so 365 updates on its own. 16:54 <+AnonymooseWork> because you can't tuna fish 16:54 < estranger> get out 16:54 <@JollyRgrs> tuna fish 16:54 < estranger> thank you 16:54 <@JollyRgrs> tuna fish and grits, hey hey 16:54 < estranger> lol 16:54 <+AnonymooseWork> :D 16:54 < AnimalFarmPig> JFDkthx: I'm really enjoying thinking about you trolling coworkers by naming servers after obscure trees. Amazing idea. 16:55 < FenJai> So ignoreing the critical windows 7 only app, what do I need to know about windows 10 to make it as painless as possible ? 16:55 < officerrando> pin "devices and printers" in the control panel to the start menu 16:55 < FenJai> Why should I get the enterprise license over the pro version, as you all said ? 16:55 < officerrando> FenJai: how many PCs? 16:56 < hxcsp> officerrando: holy shit. that might actually be the best advice 16:56 <@JollyRgrs> FenJai: for as we all said... there are things you can't manage on a pro license 16:56 < hxcsp> i hate going to control panel then devices & printers 16:56 <@JollyRgrs> some GPOs (like turning off the windows store, etc) are only for enterprise/edu versions 16:56 < officerrando> hxcsp: i read it somewhere. yeah. i REALLY miss hitting the start button and just typing dev and getting it. so i pin it now on every single machine i touch 16:57 < officerrando> dumbass MS 16:57 < hxcsp> lol 16:57 < ny0x> With Ansible how do I extract a subtring from a remote config file and then make it a variable? 16:57 < officerrando> literally added a huge list of things to that menu i never use. removed devices and printers. :-/ womp womp 16:57 < FenJai> officerrando, 40 machines atm. Maybe by the end of the year 16:58 <@JollyRgrs> i'm not really looking forward to MS continually removing things from control panel and into "Settings" 16:58 < officerrando> FenJai: the biggest thing about enterprise, aside from being able to more customize your default installed apps, is being able to image machines without dealing with keys for each one and activation and all that. if that's not a big deal for you, then Pro may be your best bet. 16:59 < hxcsp> JollyRgrs: the "settings" is lame anyways 16:59 <@JollyRgrs> I get why they are doing it, but i wish they provided a bit more of "backwards compatible" settings... like when i type the old name, it brings up the correct setting window 16:59 <@JollyRgrs> hxcsp: it's all so they can have 1 interface for desktop, laptop, tablet, phone 16:59 < officerrando> they're going apple-style with it, and dumbing it down. removes all our control. control is one of the best things about windows. 16:59 <@JollyRgrs> .... or xborxTwo 16:59 <@JollyRgrs> making it more "touch" friendly 16:59 <@JollyRgrs> not so much just dumbing down apple style 17:00 <@JollyRgrs> but touch friendly does move it that direction 17:00 < ravioli> they're not going apple-style, they're going what-windows-nerds-think-apple-style-is style 17:00 < officerrando> JollyRgrs: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/265/855/f2b.png 17:00 <+layer-eight> * officerrando → IMAGE/PNG Document, 338,759 bytes 17:00 < ravioli> system preferences is like the control panel and hasn't changed a lot in the past ten years cause it doesn't have to. 17:00 < McDonaldsWiFi> JollyRgrs: yeah i really miss the control panel... 17:00 < hxcsp> JollyRgrs: soon an xbox controller is just going to be a flat pad you use touch gestures on 17:00 < McDonaldsWiFi> JollyRgrs: all of the new menus are touch screen optimized but that adds extra steps to keyboard and mouse users 17:01 < McDonaldsWiFi> like... why are there drop down menus that only have 2 options 17:01 < McDonaldsWiFi> radio buttons would be much better -.- 17:01 <@JollyRgrs> McDonaldsWiFi: it abs. does... 17:01 < JFDkthx> AnimalFarmPig: in reality im the only one that doesserver work in this domain. but im building these servers for users and i hope they complain about the names. 17:01 < GreyKite> McDonaldsWiFi: because fuck you that's why 17:01 <@JollyRgrs> i do not like navigating win10 stuff with keyboard as much 17:01 < JFDkthx> that way i can justifiably change our scheme 17:01 < ravioli> come to the dark side 17:01 < McDonaldsWiFi> i would say ill go linux but you can't get away from supporting windows at work.. 17:01 < GreyKite> ravioli: which side is that? 17:01 < ravioli> i barely have to use my touchpad 17:01 < ravioli> macos 17:01 <@JollyRgrs> i mean, jsut using keyboard only for getting to shutdown option (not typing shutdown) is a PITA 17:01 < McDonaldsWiFi> JollyRgrs: also the start and search menus are kind of bloated and slow 17:02 < AnimalFarmPig> JFDkthx: hahaha, customer facing just makes it better :) 17:02 < GreyKite> ravioli: if I don't have to pay for it, I would gladly use macos 17:02 < AnimalFarmPig> or, user facing, rather 17:02 < McDonaldsWiFi> even with the removal scripts 17:02 < ravioli> GreyKite: hackintosh! 17:02 < ravioli> i'd love to make a hackintosh. 17:02 <@JollyRgrs> McDonaldsWiFi: nah, i think search on start menu is best it has ever been 17:02 < McDonaldsWiFi> btw what telemtry removal script do you all use? I found a couple but I dunno what's good 17:02 < hxcsp> lets all move to miley cyrus linux 17:02 < McDonaldsWiFi> JollyRgrs: if you disable cortana maybe 17:02 <@JollyRgrs> nope 17:02 <@JollyRgrs> cortana is enabled 17:02 < GreyKite> ravioli: my next build will probably be hackintosh compatible 17:02 <@JollyRgrs> i actually like it better w/ than without 17:02 < GreyKite> hxcsp: way ahead of you 17:03 < McDonaldsWiFi> JollyRgrs: I'm talking about the actual process of click and searching 17:03 < McDonaldsWiFi> the search may be better... but the act of searching is sometimes slow and hangy 17:03 < JFDkthx> AnimalFarmPig: wattle moringa baobab cocobolo hackmatack mopane jacaranda 17:03 < JFDkthx> these are all great 17:03 < McDonaldsWiFi> least in my exp.. evven on SSD 17:03 <@JollyRgrs> nah, that goes quickly, too (for me) 17:03 < GreyKite> I pretty much only use the search in win10 17:03 < GreyKite> but I also have an nvme drive 17:03 < McDonaldsWiFi> xD 17:03 < AnimalFarmPig> JFDkthx: hackmatack... that's a good one. These are all awesome server names. 17:03 < GreyKite> sooooooo 17:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> i alo hate the auto forced updates with all the telemetry 17:04 < GreyKite> JACARANDA 17:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> and it always movs my icons around my desktop 17:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> xD 17:04 <@JollyRgrs> McDonaldsWiFi: i dunno what you mean 17:04 <@JollyRgrs> i don't get that? 17:04 <@JollyRgrs> i have 4 monitors at home and my icons never move whether monthly update or a build update 17:04 < GreyKite> I've seen the icon shuffle 17:04 < GreyKite> pisses my users off to no end 17:05 < officerrando> i've also seen it 17:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> after windows updates on my home computer it resorts my iconcs 17:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> I have no idea why lol 17:05 < GreyKite> I tell them to stop using icons 17:05 < GreyKite> they don't like that 17:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> I need to just use nix at home xD 17:05 < GreyKite> McDonaldsWiFi: FreeBSD is nice 17:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> I like Debian just fine too for home use 17:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> its just the games.... 17:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> sigh 17:05 < GreyKite> McDonaldsWiFi: steam on linux now 17:05 < JFDkthx> dee beeen 17:06 < officerrando> i tried to set up a freebsd firewall box in about 2000 or so. had 0 idea what i was doing. gave up after about 20 hours of reading internet forums for how to do it. 17:06 < JFDkthx> is how it's pronounced 17:06 < McDonaldsWiFi> GreyKite: i wonder how many games I like are on nix 17:06 < GreyKite> officerrando: I had a friend install debian on my laptop, I broke it, couldn't fix it, installed a FreeBSD environment from CLI and built up a DE 17:06 < corn266> GreyKite: yea but they're basically flash games, and not many of them 17:07 < GreyKite> corn266: false 17:07 < GreyKite> that used to be the case but no more 17:07 < corn266> What AAA titles running on there now 17:07 < GreyKite> corn266: depends on your definition of AAA 17:07 < ravioli> what's it called? steam play? 17:07 < corn266> steamOS 17:07 < ravioli> no 17:07 < GreyKite> there are certainly some but not all 17:08 < ravioli> steam has some term where a game works on win+gnu/linux+macOS 17:08 < GreyKite> ravioli: yes, the options are Windows, Mac, SteamOS+Linux 17:08 < corn266> pretty sure that was steamOS 17:08 < ravioli> i mean when the game works on all of those 17:08 < GreyKite> ravioli: no se 17:08 < corn266> cross platform? 17:08 < alazare619> well back on the ynab train after not using it for a year 17:08 < alazare619> things going alot better already 17:09 < GreyKite> ynab? 17:09 < corn266> you need a budget 17:09 < FenJai> alazare619, ynab4 ornynab ? 17:09 < ravioli> https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9439-QHKN-1308 17:09 <+layer-eight> * ravioli → Steam Play - Documentation - Knowledge Base - Steam Support 17:09 < scwizard> IT'S FRIDAY BITCHES 17:09 < alazare619> nynab now 17:09 < scwizard> i can't wait to go home and sleep 17:09 < Hatter> Are there any fun video games to play this weekend? 17:09 < scwizard> psyched! 17:09 < alazare619> its finally at near feature parity of ynab4 17:09 < corn266> path of exile 17:09 < GreyKite> Hatter: Brogue 17:09 < alazare619> also helped that i switched to ally bank 17:09 < alazare619> so full direct import is nice 17:09 < asimon> Get hyped for killer queen black 17:09 < asimon> +1 for Ally 17:09 < Hatter> GreyKite: actually there's a new Tales of Maj'Eyal expansion I haven't tried yet 17:10 < corn266> alazare619: isn't it nice getting more that 0.5 cents a month in interest? 17:10 < scwizard> dude how do people go out and party on friday 17:10 < scwizard> no way am i staying up until 3AM today 17:10 < GreyKite> Hatter: do it 17:10 < alazare619> corn266: my old bank i would get dollars a month in interest 17:10 < GreyKite> not a huge ToME fan but I do like it 17:10 < alazare619> corn266: not even joking i took a hit on interest with ally but functionality is a huge plus 17:10 < GreyKite> scwizard: drugs 17:10 < Hatter> ToME is pretty great 17:10 < alazare619> old bank didnt have bill pay or any mobile apps etc 17:10 < scwizard> GreyKite: eww 17:10 < corn266> wtf where were you at alazare619 ? naval bank? 17:10 < GreyKite> scwizard: look in your coffee cup 17:11 < khelpw> Hey, anyone here especially familiar with sonicwall cli 17:11 < mal_will> Bananas are sooooooooooo fucking dick shaped 17:11 < GreyKite> mal_will: stick it in your butt to test this theory 17:11 < alazare619> but i could call them be like hey its me can you fix this and they wouldnt even need to ask any questions...to shed some light on it i opened my account iwth my old bank like 8 years ago...they had been around for 70 years ...my account number...not even joking was 100100902 17:11 < mal_will> They're not dick strength 17:11 < alazare619> the 100100 was filler obviously... 17:11 < corn266> mal_will: make like a turkey and gobble 17:11 < mal_will> just shaped 17:12 < alazare619> so i was account number 902 17:12 < alazare619> small little farmers bank 17:12 < scwizard> GreyKite: i had a chai this morning but still 17:12 < scwizard> caffinee isn't enough to make staying up until 3AM not horrible 17:12 < GreyKite> scwizard: lies 17:13 < GreyKite> I've done plenty a saturday morning on nothing but caffeine 17:13 < scwizard> yeah but 17:13 < scwizard> did it feel good? 17:13 < scwizard> or did you want to die? 17:13 < GreyKite> it felt good 17:13 < GreyKite> I love a good dnb show 17:13 < scwizard> ight 17:13 < GreyKite> I've also done many a saturday morning on...other stuff 17:14 < scwizard> i've never been able to skip sleep and have it not catch up with me 17:14 < GreyKite> some of those felt good, some not so much 17:14 < GreyKite> scwizard: the trick is to never stop the drugs 17:15 < GreyKite> and I wouldn't know what a good amount of sleep looks like 17:15 < scwizard> you should give it a try 17:15 < GreyKite> I haven't gotten a good amount of sleep in decades 17:15 < corn266> fuck i hate label maker labels 17:15 < scwizard> try sleeping in late on saturday 17:15 < GreyKite> fuck that, I got lives to live 17:15 < scwizard> then going to church Sunday morning 17:15 < scwizard> feels great 17:15 < GreyKite> .... 17:15 < abakedapplepie> corn266: be thankful youre not using third party label tape 17:15 < scwizard> good way to reboot your week 17:15 < GreyKite> I'll stick to my methods, thanks 17:15 < estranger> i quit IT to get more sleep 17:15 < abakedapplepie> that shit is awful 17:15 < estranger> then i had a baby, and now i dont sleep again 17:16 < corn266> abakedapplepie: I'm about to apply tamper seals on all our equipment 17:16 <@JollyRgrs> mal_will: what kind of bent wookie dicks do you play with that look like a banana? 17:16 < abakedapplepie> and youre using a label maker for that? 17:16 < abakedapplepie> how much equipment are we talking here 17:16 < abakedapplepie> why not just buy a roll of stickers, would probably be cheaper and more time efficient 17:17 < GreyKite> scwizard: you sound like the upstanding sort of citizen who has never vandalized a place at 3AM on a Friday while high on something the dealer at the show called "a good time" 17:17 < mal_will> Or the better question is, who is my banana dealer, and do they put them in a special dick mold, or is this tree just really sure of itself 17:17 < abakedapplepie> corn266: https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-16880R/Carton-Sealing-Tape/Uline-Hidden-Message-Security-Tape-1-x-55-yds-Red?pricode=WB0947&gadtype=pla&id=S-16880R&gclid=Cj0KCQjwx43ZBRCeARIsANzpzb-7CPHHIxzcqbONwZ1heLaSPflIoDETFGi9920l-K3Rj68J0gIv2psaAlFjEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds 17:18 <+layer-eight> * abakedapplepie → Uline Hidden Message Security Tape - 1" x 55 yds, Red S-16880R - Uline 17:19 < dragonfleas> I love MDT 17:19 < dragonfleas> It's made building PC's so much easier 17:19 < dragonfleas> I only have to click like 3 times to have a running image 17:20 < corn266> abakedapplepie: https://tydenbrooks.com/seals-by-type/security-tape-labels/security-labels/knr-tamper-evident-security-seal 17:20 <+layer-eight> * corn266 → KNR Non-Residue Void Security Seal 17:20 <@JollyRgrs> 3 times is about 3 times too much :P 17:20 <@JollyRgrs> but not bad either 17:20 < dragonfleas> I hate that dell's small notebook like don't come with ethernet ports 17:20 <@JollyRgrs> i have to enter domain creds and hit enter 5 times (b/c some images need those options changed) 17:21 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: just keep a few usb to ethernet dongles available 17:21 <@JollyRgrs> or include drivers in WinPE for docking station 17:21 < dragonfleas> JollyRgrs, I just set up skip rules in my task sequence 17:21 < GreyKite> I have a drawer of various ethernet dongles 17:21 < dragonfleas> i mean on the media 17:21 < dragonfleas> not the task sequence 17:21 < dragonfleas> JollyRgrs, we need to order a few extra's 17:22 < dragonfleas> are there USB to gigabit dongles? 17:22 < dragonfleas> most of them are 10/100 i think right? 17:22 <@JollyRgrs> should be gigabit ones 17:22 < GreyKite> dragonfleas: yes 17:22 < abakedapplepie> plenty of gigabit 17:22 < dragonfleas> wow, amazon basics ones are only 13 bucks 17:22 < GreyKite> yes 17:22 <@JollyRgrs> yup 17:22 <@JollyRgrs> they aren't that expensive 17:23 < Nightcinder> why is SCCM pricing so fucking weird 17:23 <@JollyRgrs> i like the ones that have drivers built-in to the OS 17:23 <@JollyRgrs> Nightcinder: how is it weird? 17:23 <@JollyRgrs> price is per server or per workstation 17:23 < Nightcinder> i just wanted to see the price for a CML 17:23 <@JollyRgrs> and with or without AV 17:23 < Nightcinder> i can't find prices 17:23 <@JollyRgrs> i think like $62 or something? 17:23 < Nightcinder> that's what i saw once but can't find that page again lol 17:23 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/cloud-platform/system-center-configuration-manager-licensing 17:23 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs → System Center Configuration Manager Licensing | Microsoft 17:23 <@JollyRgrs> i LITERALLY just typed "sccm cml price" into google 17:24 < Nightcinder> i have 4 physical servers, and maybe 100-120 client pc's 17:24 <@JollyRgrs> first link 17:24 <@JollyRgrs> ... 17:24 <+AnonymooseWork> ffs 17:24 < Nightcinder> not sure SCCM is even worth it 17:24 <+AnonymooseWork> i'm so done this bs today. 17:24 < dragonfleas> I wonder if they have usb to SAS adapters 17:24 <@JollyRgrs> Nightcinder: 100ish PCs is borderline 17:24 <@JollyRgrs> depends on the demand of the company 17:24 < Nightcinder> if we bought another plant we'd definitely need it but right now i'm just not sure 17:24 <+AnonymooseWork> i'd make the argument its worth it if you have a small team and are highly districuted 17:24 <+AnonymooseWork> err distributed 17:25 < Nightcinder> my team is 2 people 17:25 <+AnonymooseWork> might be worth it just for the efficiencies 17:25 <@JollyRgrs> ^ 17:25 <+AnonymooseWork> we use SCCM right now soley for system imaging 17:25 <+AnonymooseWork> but patching and remote management is on the roadmap 17:25 < Nightcinder> yeah i manually image new laptops/desktops 17:25 < Nightcinder> and servers 17:25 <@JollyRgrs> it really jsut depends on the needs, Nightcinder 17:25 <+AnonymooseWork> yea 17:25 <@JollyRgrs> you'd really want that to be uniform (imaging) as well as patching 17:25 < Nightcinder> is there a base price for SCCM? 17:25 <+AnonymooseWork> i mean you can argumentatively use WDS for imaging as well 17:25 <@JollyRgrs> also, how often do you push out software to workstations? 17:25 <@JollyRgrs> Nightcinder: no 17:25 < Nightcinder> or just the CAL? 17:25 <@JollyRgrs> server is free 17:25 <@JollyRgrs> just the CAL 17:25 < Nightcinder> not terribly often 17:25 <+AnonymooseWork> server is free, just need the CAL 17:26 < Nightcinder> hmm 17:26 < Nightcinder> ok 17:26 <+AnonymooseWork> do users have local admin? 17:26 <@JollyRgrs> and SQL license for server is included 17:26 < Nightcinder> some users do 17:26 < Nightcinder> it's n ot uniform 17:26 <+AnonymooseWork> you can geta way from needing it 17:26 <@JollyRgrs> AnonymooseWork: sometimes 17:26 <+AnonymooseWork> because sccm installs as a deployment service account 17:26 <+AnonymooseWork> of course :) sometimes 17:26 <@JollyRgrs> some apps are STUPID and require local admin to run 17:26 <+AnonymooseWork> like everything MS 17:26 <+AnonymooseWork> lol 17:26 < GreyKite> why the fuck do user's need local admin? 17:26 <@JollyRgrs> some apps are STUPID and require local admin to run 17:26 < GreyKite> Gross 17:26 <@JollyRgrs> yup 17:26 <+AnonymooseWork> GreyKite visual studio? 17:26 <@JollyRgrs> usually poor programming 17:26 < Nightcinder> i want the basics installed. Chrome/Office/PDF viewer, that kinda thing 17:27 < Nightcinder> too much effort and too little time to properly manage them as it stands 17:27 < Nightcinder> so SCCM might be the way to go 17:27 <@JollyRgrs> Nightcinder: and how do you keep those things up to date so you are virus free? 17:27 < Nightcinder> forticlient 17:27 <@JollyRgrs> Nightcinder: if you are stating that, then yeah, time to move to SCCM 17:27 < Nightcinder> and WSUS 17:27 <@JollyRgrs> spring the extra $22 for endpoint protection 17:28 < Nightcinder> we pay for forticlient AV 17:28 < Nightcinder> tho 17:28 <@JollyRgrs> have it all in one thing 17:28 <@JollyRgrs> then stop paying for it :P 17:28 < Nightcinder> have only had one issue so far with forticleint AV 17:28 <@JollyRgrs> time for lunch 17:28 < Nightcinder> a riskware thing that is required software lol 17:30 < felda> JollyRgrs I listened to the album. It's pretty good. 17:53 < chernobylchild69> hey guys 17:53 < chernobylchild69> whats up 17:53 < mcj> chilling 17:53 < mcj> lunch time 17:53 < mcj> well... almost 17:53 < chernobylchild69> can someone please help me out 17:53 < asimon> nop 17:54 <+AnonymooseWork> brb 17:54 < chernobylchild69> is there a way to allow a non domain admin user to be able to change folder icons from his workstation for folders that are on a nas? 17:56 < dragonfleas> for some reason 17:56 < dragonfleas> my image that works on everything else i tried on this netbook 17:56 < dragonfleas> and it just doesn't detect a bootable device when it's finished 17:56 < dragonfleas> wtf 17:56 < mcj> chernobylchild69: no 17:56 < mcj> needs perms 17:56 < dragonfleas> any ideas? 17:57 < mcj> BIOS? 17:57 < mcj> Foramtted the USB as GPT? 17:57 < alazare619> what the fuckity fuck 17:57 < alazare619> https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/8ranm0/this_is_the_biggest_pst_file_ive_ever_seen_and_i/ 17:57 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 → This is the biggest PST file I've ever seen and I have no idea what to do : sysadmin 17:58 < alazare619> 470GB PST file 17:58 < alazare619> WTF 17:58 < alazare619> what the flying fuck i can't even comprehend that 17:58 < DomLS3> I thought 110 in my org was a lot lol 17:58 < hxcsp> i have a user with 80 and i thought that was big 17:58 < estranger> quotas people 17:58 < estranger> but yeah thats huge 17:58 < estranger> prob emailing themselves porn videos 17:59 < estranger> once went through a users computer that was full... it was full of Powerpoint Porn. never seen that before or since 17:59 < alazare619> only thing i can think of is a act of pure evil 17:59 < estranger> bunch ppt files full of porn 17:59 < chernobylchild69> mcj: true... are you sure? there is no way? 17:59 < alazare619> but base64 encode entire blurays and save them in emails 17:59 < chernobylchild69> mcj: what would be the permissions they need to have to change the icon folders? 18:00 < ravioli> chernobylchild69: you might consider asking your sysadmin 18:00 < estranger> alazare619, knew a graphics designer that had a huge mailbox from sending out images all the time.. that got pretty large pretty quickly 18:00 < alazare619> raw graphics will do that 18:00 < alazare619> but still 10MB limit per email attachment 18:01 < ekaj> anyone here ever nessus scanned an ESX host? 18:01 < alazare619> so simple math thats... 40k emails still 18:01 < alazare619> if they had max attachment size per email 18:01 < estranger> ive also seen a screwed up client start duplicated and duplicating and duplicating emails on exchange 18:01 < chernobylchild69> ravioli: i am actually just eating ravioli :) :) the sysadmin doesnt know 18:01 < ekaj> they had all emails going to that mailbox 18:01 < alazare619> bedlam 5 18:01 < chernobylchild69> thats why i come here becaus eeverytime he doesnt know something i ask here and i get an educated answer 18:01 < estranger> still who the fuck has a PST anymore 18:02 < ravioli> EST is where it's at. 18:02 < alazare619> Bedlam DL3 18:02 < alazare619> thats it 18:02 < alazare619> had to google 18:02 < alazare619> me too! 18:02 < estranger> i should update my osx 18:04 < alazare619> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_storm 18:04 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 → Email storm - Wikipedia 18:04 < genr8_> how come we don't have Dick Tracy smartwatches with a front selfie-cam that do video-chat ? 18:04 < alazare619> i love that people copy and paste pizza and brocoli casserole recipes into reply storms 18:05 < genr8_> adminning peoples private email must be the 7th circle of hell 18:05 < ravioli> i'm so glad we use google. 18:06 < alazare619> i almost wana start an email storm just for the hell of it 18:07 < abakedapplepie> im sorry, pizza and broccoli casserole? wat? 18:09 < alazare619> On 18 September 2013,[5] a Cisco employee sent an email to a 'sep_training1' mailing list requesting that an online training be performed. The list contained 23,570 members. The resulting storm of 'unsubscribe', 'me-too' requests, sarcastic facepalm images and recipes for broccoli casserole resulted in (by the time the list was closed) over 4 million emails and generating over 375GB of network traffic. The 18:09 < alazare619> following month on 23 October 2013[6] a nearly identical email storm occurred when an employee sent a message to a Cisco group containing 34,562 members. The thread was flooded with "remove me from the list", "me too", "please don't reply-all", and even a pizza recipe. 18:09 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, recepies for pizza, and recepies for brocoli casserole 18:09 < Hunterkll> lol 18:09 < Hunterkll> not both at the same time 18:09 < abakedapplepie> yeah i just finished reading that lol 18:09 < abakedapplepie> i'd eat it 18:09 < genr8_> lol 18:10 < ravioli> unsubscribe 18:10 < alazare619> me-too! 18:10 < alazare619> i dont understand the whole unsubscribe thing 18:10 < alazare619> back in the early days of email did that automatically unsubscribe from lists? 18:11 < ravioli> admin should probably have only allowed certain people to send mail to the list 18:11 < mcj> chernobylchild69: I don't think so 18:11 < ravioli> after the first issue especially 18:11 < mcj> Unless you create a user for them, it's on a domain right? 18:11 < mcj> You can create a local user on the NAS but then anyone with those creds can be bad 18:11 < dragonfleas> nevermind i hate mdt 18:11 < dragonfleas> it keeps fucking freezing on this PC 18:11 < dragonfleas> >:( 18:11 < alazare619> you probably have bad drivers then 18:12 < ravioli> like massachusetts 18:12 < alazare619> make sure you are using the proper SSM/SCCM compliant drivers 18:12 < dragonfleas> There aren't any compliant drivers, this is a small notebook non-business from Dell lol 18:13 < dragonfleas> I had to extract the .cab's manually 18:15 < dragonfleas> This computer doesn't even support PXE booting 18:15 < dragonfleas> so I'm having to use a USB drive 18:17 < asimon> dragonfleas: computer doesn't support it or the bios setting is disabled? 18:17 < dragonfleas> Computer doesn't support it 18:17 < dragonfleas> at all 18:17 < asimon> that's odd 18:17 < dragonfleas> I checked the bios and googled it 18:17 < dragonfleas> it only has a wireless NIC so it makes sense 18:23 < admiralspark> okay 18:23 < admiralspark> I'm having a stupid moment 18:23 < admiralspark> not unlike most moments this week 18:23 < admiralspark> Centos 7, I have a repo in the mirrorlist that's infected, can I somehow blacklist that URL through rpm/yum 18:24 < admiralspark> on deb's and other distro's I used to edit the mirrorlist 18:24 < admiralspark> but apparently now it downloads a new copy for centos every time 18:25 <@JollyRgrs> admiralspark: infected? which repo? 18:25 <@JollyRgrs> err, you mean like the actual centos 7 mirrors, one is infected? 18:26 < admiralspark> mirror.scalabledns.com is serving malware still 18:26 < admiralspark> yes, that 18:26 <@JollyRgrs> ouch 18:26 < admiralspark> yeah :/ 18:26 < admiralspark> Thankfully bad signatures caught it but 18:26 <@JollyRgrs> can you specify a single mirror to use where it doesn't do the speedtest check thing? 18:26 < mcj> Can't you remove it from the sources list? 18:26 <@JollyRgrs> or... DNS block it with hosts file 18:26 <@JollyRgrs> mcj: he says he does but it comes back next time he runs update 18:26 < admiralspark> maybe...that's partially what I'm looking for. mcj no, it downloads a new mirrorlist each time 18:26 < admiralspark> JollyRgrs: might do that, null route it 18:27 <@JollyRgrs> quickest solution 18:27 <@JollyRgrs> might be cheap/dirty, but it'll do the trick 18:27 < admiralspark> thx, good idea 18:31 < dragonfleas> maybe i'm lacking winpe drivers 18:37 < asimon> dragonfleas: Yes you need specific drivers that 18:37 < asimon> *for that 18:40 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: FWIW, XPS 13 and Surfaces don't have ethernet.... both support PXE 18:40 <@JollyRgrs> sometimes you might need to use a specific adapter (usb to ethernet) 18:40 <@JollyRgrs> i think originally the surfaces needed the MSFT adapter, but I have used third party and it worked fine 18:40 <+AnonymooseWork> yea 18:40 <+AnonymooseWork> Part of the problem with that too is you gotta make sure the NIC has a pxe driver 18:41 <+AnonymooseWork> thats why they were limited i think 18:42 < dragonfleas> I think MDT Crashed my USB drive? 18:42 < dragonfleas> wtf 18:42 < dragonfleas> after a deployment failed, USB drive isn't recognized by any PC's now 18:42 < Hunterkll> what you just said 18:42 < Hunterkll> is literally impossible 18:42 < dragonfleas> fuck i'm an idiot 18:42 < dragonfleas> i realized what i just did 18:42 < Hunterkll> you repartitioned the USB 18:42 < dragonfleas> i opened diskpart...and cleaned all the disks 18:42 < Hunterkll> good job 18:42 < dragonfleas> LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL 18:42 < dragonfleas> someone fucking punch me in the face 18:43 < Hunterkll> can we open a porn site for this 18:43 < Hunterkll> just dragonfleas getting punched repeatedly 18:43 < Hunterkll> i'm sure someone will pay 18:43 < binaryhermit> does that count as porn? 18:43 < Hunterkll> well, he's naked, bound, and gagged 18:43 < Hunterkll> so yes 18:44 < dragonfleas> i fixed it 18:44 < dragonfleas> went into diskpart and made a primary partition lmao 18:44 < dragonfleas> wow sometimes i can be a real dumbass 18:45 <+AnonymooseWork> oops 18:45 <+AnonymooseWork> dragonfleas you can fix that if you haven't done anything to it 18:45 <+AnonymooseWork> you just need a partition recovery tool 18:45 <+AnonymooseWork> I did that once when trying to make a win10 boot disk while half asleep 18:45 <+AnonymooseWork> i cleaned the wrong drive # 18:45 < estranger> whoops 18:45 < dragonfleas> i fixed it 18:45 < dragonfleas> it's fine 18:45 < dragonfleas> i had to update my MDT media on it anyways 18:45 <+AnonymooseWork> lol 18:45 < dragonfleas> to add winpe drivers 18:46 <@JollyRgrs> so... news blurb talks about a missing girl with "mental limitations" is this now the new PC way to say retarded? 18:46 <@JollyRgrs> when will this end 18:49 < estranger> "girl a few fries short of a happy meal missing from home" 18:49 <+AnonymooseWork> ... 18:49 <+AnonymooseWork> teh f? 18:49 <@JollyRgrs> estranger: THERE IS NOTHING FUNNY ABOUT MISSING FRIES IN A HAPPY MEAL! 18:50 <@JollyRgrs> they only give you like 10 fries for a happy meal anyways... missing even one fry woulda made me an unhappy kid 18:50 <+AnonymooseWork> 1. They should never use the word retarded to describe a person. 18:50 < corn266> how many fries makes it count as a happy meal though 18:50 <+AnonymooseWork> 2. Agreed that "mental limitations" seems like a weird way to describe it 18:50 < estranger> corn266, all of them 18:50 < dragonfleas> This computer only has a 32 gb SSD in it 18:50 < dragonfleas> what the fuck 18:51 < estranger> garbage 18:51 <+AnonymooseWork> lol 18:51 <+AnonymooseWork> 32gb SSD? 18:51 <+AnonymooseWork> what is that for? 18:51 < dragonfleas> yeah 18:51 < dragonfleas> it's a netbook for our projector 18:51 < corn266> chromeOS compatible 18:51 < dragonfleas> i'm trying to image it 18:51 <+AnonymooseWork> rofl 18:51 < mrghostman> one of my high school classmates was "missing" for the past two weeks. they found her a couple of days ago and she claimed she wasn't missing 18:51 < dragonfleas> i hate my ORG sometimes 18:51 <+AnonymooseWork> me too dragon... me too 18:51 < JFDkthx> have a good week all! 18:51 < mrghostman> she did have brain damage from a car accident years ago though 18:52 < estranger> THANK YOU slack for using the word Myriad correctly in your release notes 18:52 <+AnonymooseWork> mrghostman ptsd and brain damage is not funny 18:52 < JFDkthx> except you dragonfleas, you smelly ant eater mouth lookin ass 18:52 < mrghostman> AnonymooseWork: i know 18:52 < felda> ant-eaters are kinda cute to be honest 18:52 < dragonfleas> jesus fucking christ 18:52 < felda> they're like cats with snoots 18:53 < JFDkthx> felda: https://youtu.be/giYec48J1zU 18:53 < dragonfleas> JFDkthx, you little bitch ass baked bean forehead lookin neckbeard ass lookin mama's boy lookin i got suplexed by a baby once lookin ass 18:53 <+layer-eight> * JFDkthx → ⚓ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giYec48J1zU&feature=youtu.be → YouTube → When she tries to roast you VS. When you roast her → ⚘ 833,317 ↑ 39,686 ↓ 212 ✍ 1,696 18:53 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, by the way, do you have volume licensing for windows? 18:53 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, yes 18:53 < Hunterkll> k 18:53 < Hunterkll> if you didn't, you couldn't do reimaging 18:53 < Hunterkll> :P 18:53 < dragonfleas> yeah we have like 200 win 10 enterprise keys 18:54 < dragonfleas> which is definitely more than we need 18:54 < dragonfleas> but microsoft loves to give tons of extra key's to non-profits 18:54 < dragonfleas> we have like 150 server 2012 r2 keys lmao 18:54 < dragonfleas> we're only using like 38 of them 18:54 < Hunterkll> that's not how many licenses you have 18:54 <+AnonymooseWork> 150 keys or 150 activations? 18:54 < Hunterkll> that's how many activations your MAK has 18:54 < dragonfleas> 150 activations 18:54 <+AnonymooseWork> activations <> licenses 18:54 < Hunterkll> yea uh, i have 1 license of windows server, and i have 50 activations 18:54 < Hunterkll> just saying 18:54 < dragonfleas> wait 18:54 < dragonfleas> so does that mean 18:54 <@JollyRgrs> AnonymooseWork: just curious, why not use the word retarded? 18:54 < dragonfleas> we'd fail an audit 18:55 < dragonfleas> how do we see how many licenses 18:55 <+AnonymooseWork> dragonfleas potentially 18:55 < Hunterkll> depends on how many licenses you have 18:55 < Hunterkll> :) 18:55 <+AnonymooseWork> you have access to VSLC? 18:55 <@JollyRgrs> retarded, stupid, idiot... all medical terms 18:55 < Hunterkll> you'd have to check your license summary ^ 18:55 < dragonfleas> VLSC is not user friendly 18:55 <+AnonymooseWork> ... 18:55 < Hunterkll> wat 18:55 < Hunterkll> just check your damn relationship summary 18:55 < Hunterkll> jesus 18:55 < dragonfleas> kk 18:55 < dragonfleas> i'll go look 18:55 < Hunterkll> in terms of vendor sites 18:55 < Hunterkll> it's the most user friendly ever 18:55 < Hunterkll> lol 18:55 <+AnonymooseWork> JollyRgrs - it would be the equivalent of saying something along the lines of "Nigger missing for more than 1 week" 18:55 <+AnonymooseWork> ... 18:56 <@JollyRgrs> retarded means slow 18:56 <+AnonymooseWork> nobody in their right mind would use that now would they? 18:56 <+AnonymooseWork> no 18:56 <@JollyRgrs> are you saying some ppl aren't "slow" to process things? 18:56 < dragonfleas> fuck 18:56 <@JollyRgrs> where do you think "tardies" came from? 18:56 < dragonfleas> yeah we only have 5 windows 10 enterprise keys 18:56 <+AnonymooseWork> ... 18:56 <@JollyRgrs> you're late, go get a tardie slip 18:56 < dragonfleas> LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL 18:56 < corn266> JollyRgrs: lmao 18:56 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, you might have 5 keys with how many activations? 18:56 < Hunterkll> you're reading it all wrong 18:56 <@JollyRgrs> corn266: AnonymooseWork thought i was calling mentally different people tardies, i bet 18:57 <@JollyRgrs> but same latin root 18:57 <@JollyRgrs> slow/late 18:57 <+AnonymooseWork> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tardy 18:57 <+layer-eight> * AnonymooseWork → Tardy | Definition of Tardy by Merriam-Webster 18:57 <+AnonymooseWork> you get a Tardy slip 18:57 < dragonfleas> we have 50 activations on win 10 enterprise, LTSB, and PRO 18:57 <+AnonymooseWork> not a tardie slip 18:57 <@JollyRgrs> tardier; tardiest 18:57 < dragonfleas> ok 18:57 < dragonfleas> so this means we need to purchase a lot more licenses? 18:57 <@JollyRgrs> AnonymooseWork: at school, if you were tardy, you had to go to the office and get a tardy slip 18:57 < Hatter> woah what the heck are you guys talking about 18:57 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, and by the way, volume licenses are UPGRADE licenses only 18:57 <@killdash9> "Retarded means slow. Was he slow?" Good movie. 18:57 < estranger> SJWs! 18:57 < Hunterkll> you still need to have a base windows license 18:58 < corn266> i tardy; you tardy; he, she, we tardy; it's basic grammar 18:58 <+AnonymooseWork> yes you were tardy, you were late 18:58 < mrghostman> Hunterkll++ 18:58 < estranger> I put my hands upon your hips, when I do you dip we dip 18:58 <@JollyRgrs> corn266: you definitely are tardy 18:58 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, I know, we get computers with windows on them already 18:58 < dragonfleas> so that covers that correct? 18:58 <@JollyRgrs> LETS GET RE-TARDY IN HERE! 18:58 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, but your license count is under licenses - licenses 18:58 < estranger> s/do/dip 18:58 <+layer-eight> [SED estranger/dragonfleas] Hunterkll, I know, we get computers with windipws on them already 18:58 < Hunterkll> 'effective quantitty ' 18:58 <+AnonymooseWork> ... 18:58 < Hunterkll> it can get messy with SA quantities though 18:58 < Hatter> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KQDIkD_BFQ 18:58 < mrghostman> you cant buy hardware with no OS and expect to use a volume license on it and pass an audit 18:58 <+layer-eight> * Hatter → YouTube → Norm Macdonald - "What are you retarded?" → ⚘ 193,501 ↑ 2,497 ↓ 24 ✍ 14 18:58 <+AnonymooseWork> so 18:58 < estranger> ... 18:58 < Hunterkll> since I have 16 unresolved server standard but 1 effective 2012 R2 18:58 < Hunterkll> but eh 18:58 <+AnonymooseWork> mrghostman no you can't because volume licenses are always a step up sku from oem 18:58 < dragonfleas> yeah it says effective quantity 0, unresolved quantity 5, active SA quantity 5 18:59 < Hunterkll> ya u only got 5 lol 18:59 < dragonfleas> fuck 18:59 < Hunterkll> thats the min qty to get a VL agreement 18:59 < dragonfleas> so 18:59 <+AnonymooseWork> lol 18:59 <@JollyRgrs> lol 18:59 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, if the PCs come with Win10 Pro 18:59 <@JollyRgrs> 5... 200... same thing, right? 18:59 < mrghostman> AnonymooseWork: thats my point...i was expanding on Hunterkll's statement 18:59 < dragonfleas> we have a bunch of servers...and all of them need licensing 18:59 < Hunterkll> you can image them using that VL key 18:59 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, where'd you get the 2012 R2 keys from then? 18:59 < dragonfleas> techsoup 18:59 < Hunterkll> you may have licensed them via a different channel 18:59 < Hunterkll> okay, so they should be in your VLSC probably 18:59 < Hunterkll> you should look in your techsoup too 18:59 < Hunterkll> and see 19:00 < Hunterkll> check your microsoft shit in there 19:00 < Hunterkll> there's a special section just for microsoft stuff 19:00 <@JollyRgrs> s/tech/talk 19:00 <+layer-eight> [SED JollyRgrs/Hunterkll] you should look in your talksoup too 19:01 <@JollyRgrs> does that show still even? 19:01 < dragonfleas> we only have 3 server 2012 R2 licenses... 19:01 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, look, he's more articulate than the president, i'll accept it 19:01 < dragonfleas> and the open license status is expired.... 19:01 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, the reason you ahve so many activations is reimaging rights 19:01 < Hunterkll> okay, that doesn't matter 19:01 < Hunterkll> you still ahve license 19:01 < Hunterkll> just not SA 19:01 < Hunterkll> so you can't use 2016 for example 19:01 < dragonfleas> what's SA? 19:01 <@killdash9> "Twelve inches to a yard and have ya soundin' like a retard" 19:01 <@JollyRgrs> software assurance 19:01 <+AnonymooseWork> oh god 19:01 < dragonfleas> ok 19:01 <@JollyRgrs> means you can update to whatwever is teh latest version 19:01 < Hunterkll> software assurance, ervery 2 year payment to keep current/free upgrades 19:01 < Hunterkll> yea 19:01 <+AnonymooseWork> i listened to el presidente on the radio this morning for whatever reason 19:01 <+AnonymooseWork> i was listening to fox and friends 19:02 < mcj> cool 19:02 <+AnonymooseWork> wtf is your president doing calling into a tv show on a regular basis 19:02 <+AnonymooseWork> he's like a regular guest 19:02 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, now - if all the PCs came with Win10 Pro (or 7 or 8.1 Pro ) you can reimage them using your VLK and the pro image just fine, that's why you have so many retarded amounts of activation 19:02 < Hunterkll> and you can even call the volume servicing center to get that limit raised if you run out 19:02 < mcj> AnonymooseWork: please read topic. no policis 19:02 <@JollyRgrs> obama liked going on SNL and oprah and whatever else 19:02 < Hunterkll> but you can only use enterprise on 5 machines 19:02 < mcj> politics* 19:02 <@killdash9> AnonymooseWork: we don't have a president. We have a reality show contestant 19:02 < Hunterkll> and you can only reimage with VL pro if the machine came with pro 19:02 <+AnonymooseWork> hehe JollyRgrs 19:02 <@JollyRgrs> mcj: we can talk about policies all day long! 19:02 < Hunterkll> if it came witgh home you're fukt 19:02 <+AnonymooseWork> lol killdash9 19:02 < Hunterkll> (well, you could use one of your 5 enterprise i gues.s...) 19:03 * JollyRgrs sets GPO on mcj to run shutdown -s -t %rand% 19:03 <+AnonymooseWork> and mcj i didn't bring it up merely made a comment on another persons comment 19:03 <@JollyRgrs> s/contestant/host 19:03 <+layer-eight> [SED JollyRgrs/killdash9] AnonymooseWork: we don't have a president. We have a reality show host 19:03 < mcj> lol 19:03 <@JollyRgrs> it'd be like that guy from survivor running for gov't 19:03 <@JollyRgrs> lol 19:05 < dragonfleas> Yeah we only get workstations with pro on them when we buy 19:05 < dragonfleas> thank god 19:08 < dragonfleas> Server 2012 R2 standard comes with 2 VM's covered under it correct Hunterkll ? 19:09 < dragonfleas> so if I have two hypervisors each with 2 VM's it's fine right? 19:09 < DomLS3> dragonfleas: all Windows servers do from 2008 and up 19:09 < dragonfleas> kk 19:09 < DomLS3> it's 1 + 2 19:09 < DomLS3> 1 physical two virtual 19:09 < dragonfleas> so if I have 5 VM's on one, I need to buy 3 more server 2012 R2 licenses? 19:09 < DomLS3> yes 19:09 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, yes 19:09 < Hunterkll> no 19:09 < DomLS3> wait 19:09 < DomLS3> no 19:09 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, they stack 19:09 < dragonfleas> wait 19:10 < DomLS3> you need to either buy 3 vm licenses 19:10 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, you can have 2 server standard licenses on one box 19:10 < Hunterkll> DomLS3, there's no "vm licenses" 19:10 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, you can have 2 server standard licenses on one box - which lets you run 4 guest VMs 19:10 < Hunterkll> or 3, which gives you 6 19:10 < dragonfleas> how the fuck do i apply more than one license to one box? 19:10 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, it's called record keeping 19:10 < dragonfleas> OH 19:10 < DomLS3> dragonfleas: it's not a license on the box 19:10 < Hunterkll> honor society 19:10 < DomLS3> it's more for compliance 19:10 < dragonfleas> ok so you don't literally mean apply them 19:10 < dragonfleas> ok 19:10 < Hunterkll> doesn't matter the key you use 19:10 < dragonfleas> my boss is going to be PISSED 19:10 < Hunterkll> just "X to this box, Y to that box" 19:10 < dragonfleas> this is going to cost us a lot of money 19:11 < Hunterkll> I already explained how you're not really screwed on workstations if they came with pro already 19:11 < felda> what should I get my pop for fathers day? 19:11 < DomLS3> felda: a pfsense vape 19:11 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, yeah we only have 5 windows 10 enterprise workstations right now, so we're in the clear on that 19:11 < dragonfleas> but 19:11 < felda> my dad chews tobacco he is far beyond vaping 19:11 < dragonfleas> we have a shit ton of servers, and only 3 server 2012 r2 licenses 19:12 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, how many hypervisors? 19:12 < Hunterkll> lol 19:12 < dragonfleas> 2 hypervisors and about 10 VM's 19:12 < Hunterkll> so get 2 datacenter license sets and call it a day 19:12 < Hunterkll> how many cores per socket? 19:12 < Hunterkll> 2016 is licensed per-core 19:13 < Hunterkll> oh 19:13 < Hunterkll> techsoup doesn't have datacenter? 19:13 < Hunterkll> oh well 19:13 < dragonfleas> They're 20 core 19:13 < Hunterkll> 20 VMs * 16 (minimum purchase is two 8 core cpus worth of server license) 19:13 < Hunterkll> okay 19:13 < dragonfleas> Dual E5-2630 V4's 19:13 < Hunterkll> so ... 19:13 < Hunterkll> er 19:13 < Hunterkll> so you need.... 19:13 < Hunterkll> 2 * 20 licenses 19:13 < Hunterkll> but they're 2 core packs 19:13 < Hunterkll> so you need 2*10 19:14 < Hunterkll> so 20 total licenses 19:14 < dragonfleas> 20 2 core packs for each hypervisor? 19:14 < Hunterkll> per host, per 2 vms 19:14 < Hunterkll> for standard 19:14 < Hunterkll> er 19:14 < Hunterkll> per pair of hosts 19:14 < Hunterkll> per 2 vms per host 19:14 < Hunterkll> 10 licenses per host per 2 vms 19:14 < Hunterkll> yes 19:14 < Hunterkll> that's right 19:14 < DomLS3> woah 19:14 < dragonfleas> for 2012 r2 datacenter? 19:14 < dragonfleas> or 2016? 19:14 < DomLS3> RIP malcolm young 19:14 < Hunterkll> 2016 19:14 < Hunterkll> they don't sell 2012 R2 19:14 < dragonfleas> our hypervisors are 2012 r2 19:14 < Hunterkll> you buy 2016 and use 2012 R2 19:15 < dragonfleas> oh lol 19:15 < Hunterkll> all the way down to 2008/2008R2 you get rights to 19:15 < dragonfleas> so fucking confusing 19:15 < DomLS3> Just make sure you purchase downgrade rights 19:15 < dragonfleas> I just scheduled a meeting with my boss after lunch 19:15 < Hunterkll> whaty 19:15 < Hunterkll> DomLS3, ??? 19:15 < Hunterkll> obviously you've never used volume licensing before?? 19:15 < DomLS3> Hunterkll: No 19:15 < DomLS3> I always buy OEM 19:15 < DomLS3> retail 19:15 < Hunterkll> that shits all built in 19:16 < dragonfleas> techsoup doesn't have datacenter... 19:16 < hxcsp> thats the second person i saw say RIP Malcom Young 19:16 < hxcsp> he died last year 19:16 < dragonfleas> how much is datacenter retail? 19:16 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA 19:16 < Hunterkll> that much 19:17 < Hunterkll> it breaks even when you have to buy like, 5 or 6 standard licenses per host 19:17 < dragonfleas> OMFG 19:17 < dragonfleas> it's like 2800 dollars!?!?!? 19:17 < dragonfleas> ok 19:17 < Hunterkll> wat 19:17 < Hunterkll> 2800 for datacenter? 19:17 < Hunterkll> that's cheap 19:17 < Hunterkll> too cheap 19:17 < dragonfleas> It would make more sense for us to buy more server standard licenses 19:17 < dragonfleas> because each license is 8 dollars for us 19:17 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, datacenter for the standard minimum 16 core pack is $6,155 19:17 < Hunterkll> standard is $882 19:18 < Hunterkll> retail 19:18 < dragonfleas> LOL 19:18 < Hunterkll> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/cloud-platform/windows-server-pricing 19:18 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll → Windows Server 2016 Licensing & Pricing | Microsoft 19:18 < Hunterkll> that's for 16 cores mind you, not 20 19:18 < Hunterkll> also make sure you have all your CALs... ;) 19:18 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, that $8 is only a 2 core pack 19:18 < Hunterkll> you need $80 per for your hosts 19:18 < dragonfleas> what? 19:18 < Hunterkll> This donation provides two core licenses for Windows Server Standard. Windows Server requires a minimum of 8 core licenses for each physical processor and a minimum of 16 core licenses for each server. 19:18 < corn266> Thanks comcast for changing our static IP address 19:19 < Hunterkll> you have 20 cores, so you need 10 licenses, 10 * 8 = 80 19:19 < Hunterkll> $80 per 2 vms per host 19:19 < dragonfleas> ok, and that would cover the VM's? 19:19 < corn266> two-core licenses or two core-licenses 19:19 < Hunterkll> yes 19:19 < dragonfleas> lmao 19:19 < corn266> ah fuck 19:19 < Hunterkll> all you need to do is buy them, not change anything 19:19 < Hunterkll> just need to have them on file, as it were 19:20 < dragonfleas> ok so how much total are we looking at 19:20 < Hunterkll> yer already covered for 6 sounds like 19:20 < Hunterkll> so ... 19:20 < Hunterkll> 20 - 6 = 14 19:20 < dragonfleas> why is it minus 6? 19:20 < dragonfleas> wat 19:20 < Hunterkll> you said 10 vms per host 19:20 < Hunterkll> and you already have 3 standard licenses of 2012 r2 19:20 <+AnonymooseWork> dragonfleas do you have a license reseller that you work with? 19:20 < Hunterkll> thats 6 vms 19:20 < Hunterkll> and 14/2 = 7 19:20 < dragonfleas> AnonymooseWork, no we only have techsoup 19:20 < Hunterkll> so 7*80 = $560 19:20 < Hunterkll> that'll shore you up to 20 VMs total for the two hosts 19:20 < dragonfleas> No we have 10 VM's total Hunterkll 19:21 < Hunterkll> what happened to 28 servers you said before 19:21 < Hunterkll> lol 19:21 <+AnonymooseWork> dragonfleas - perhaps find a LAR to work with and see if they can assist you with a SAM audit? 19:21 < dragonfleas> We have other physical servers 19:21 < dragonfleas> a LAR? 19:21 < Hunterkll> are those licensed? :P 19:21 < Hunterkll> AnonymooseWork, he doesn't need that 19:21 < Hunterkll> not even close 19:21 < dragonfleas> yes they're licensed OEM 19:21 < Hunterkll> okay 19:21 < Hunterkll> then ignore those 19:21 < dragonfleas> kk 19:21 <+AnonymooseWork> Hunterkll :) they'll do it for free for charities usually 19:21 < Hunterkll> AnonymooseWork, yes, but he doesn't need much at all 19:21 < Hunterkll> lol 19:21 < Sousapro> 3x standard licensing seems overkill 19:21 < Sousapro> how much is DC? 19:22 < Hunterkll> Sousapro, $6,155 vs $80 for std 19:22 < Hunterkll> :P 19:22 < dragonfleas> Techsoup no longe roffers datacenter Sousapro 19:22 < dragonfleas> offers* 19:22 < Hunterkll> they never did i think 19:22 < Sousapro> wow 19:22 < dragonfleas> They did before 19:22 < Hunterkll> Sousapro, he can get standard from techsoup 19:22 < Hunterkll> anyway 19:22 < Sousapro> I'm glad we bought it last summer 19:22 < Hunterkll> this is fucking simple 19:22 < Hunterkll> lol 19:22 < dragonfleas> I saw it, then microsoft changed their licensing 19:22 < dragonfleas> Ok 19:22 < Hunterkll> You already have 3 standard licenses 19:22 < Hunterkll> that's 6 VMs 19:22 < dragonfleas> so let's break this down again Hunterkll 19:22 < Hunterkll> you have 10 total 19:22 < Hunterkll> so you need to license 4 19:22 < Sousapro> I don't want microsoft windows STDs 19:22 < Hunterkll> so you need $160 in standard to catch up 19:23 < Hunterkll> make it $240 to give you two server wiggle room 19:23 < dragonfleas> so I only need to get 2 standard to cover the VM, and that covers 4 cores, and 6 are already covered, so that's 10 19:23 < Hunterkll> no 19:23 < Hunterkll> ignore the cores 19:23 < Hunterkll> we need to start on VM count 19:23 < dragonfleas> okay so cores don't apply in this situation? 19:23 < Hunterkll> they do 19:23 < dragonfleas> !!!!!!!!!!!!!! 19:23 < Hunterkll> but you're mixing cores and VMs 19:23 < Hunterkll> i'm talking VMs 19:24 < dragonfleas> but you get 1 + 2 VM + 2 core when you buy right? 19:24 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, your 2012 R2 already covers 6 of your VMs 19:24 < Hunterkll> no no 19:24 < dragonfleas> ok 19:24 < Hunterkll> Server 2016 liecnsing is sold in 2 core packs 19:24 < Hunterkll> you must buy a minimum of 16 cores 19:24 < Hunterkll> to get one "regular" license 19:24 < dragonfleas> OH 19:24 < Hunterkll> you, however, have 20 cores, so you need to buy additional 2 more packs 19:24 < dragonfleas> so there are core-packs that are separate from regular 19:24 < Hunterkll> so that's why you need 10 19:24 < Hunterkll> no 19:24 < Hunterkll> it's only sold in core packs 19:24 < dragonfleas> WTFFFFFFFFF 19:24 < Hunterkll> but you're /required/ to buy a minimum of 16 19:24 < dragonfleas> I don't understand this 19:25 < Hunterkll> so I only need to get 2 standard to cover the VM, and that covers 4 cores, and 6 are already covered, so that's 10 19:25 < Hunterkll> er 19:25 < Hunterkll> This donation provides two core licenses for Windows Server Standard. Windows Server requires a minimum of 8 core licenses for each physical processor and a minimum of 16 core licenses for each server. 19:25 < Hunterkll> i pasted this before 19:25 < dragonfleas> yes i understand that 19:25 < dragonfleas> but 19:25 < dragonfleas> what do I have no 19:25 < dragonfleas> now 19:25 < Hunterkll> buying another 2 core pack doesn't license you another VM 19:25 < dragonfleas> ok 19:25 < Hunterkll> you have to buy an additional 20 19:25 < Hunterkll> 20 cores 19:25 < Hunterkll> per set of 2 VMs 19:25 < Hunterkll> think of it this way 19:25 < dragonfleas> that's what i don't understand 19:25 < dragonfleas> 20 cores per set of 2 VM's 19:26 < Hunterkll> where before you bought 1 standard 2012 R2 license 19:26 < dragonfleas> what the fuck does that mean 19:26 < scwizard> admin@ip-10-0-1-225:~$ free -m -bash: fork: Cannot allocate memory 19:26 < Hunterkll> now you buy 10 2016 licenses 19:26 < scwizard> welp 19:26 < Hunterkll> 1 standard 2012 R2 license = 10 2016 license sku 19:26 < Hunterkll> for you 19:26 < dragonfleas> ok 19:26 < scwizard> at least you tried 19:27 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, maybe the retail pricing will help - $882 used to be 2012 R2 standard's price. now it's 16 cores of 2016 standard 19:27 < admiralspark> scwizard: how the hell 19:27 < Hunterkll> they made it the same price if you license 16 cores 19:27 < Hunterkll> if you have more cores, you pay more 19:27 < dragonfleas> ok 19:27 < dragonfleas> so i have 20 cores 19:27 < Hunterkll> right 19:27 < Hunterkll> and that $8 sku, is only a 2 core sku 19:27 * mcj eats popcorn 19:27 < dragonfleas> on EACH hypervisor 19:27 < Hunterkll> so you need 10 of that 2 core sku 19:27 < dragonfleas> for each vm 19:27 < Hunterkll> for 2 vms 19:27 < scwizard> admiralspark: what did you think happened when you ran out of ram lol 19:27 < admiralspark> and you have to buy a minimum of 8, right? 19:27 < dragonfleas> for each hypervsiro* 19:27 < mcj> Let the man explain 19:27 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, yes 19:27 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, you have TWO hypervisors with a total of 10 VMs, correct? 19:27 < admiralspark> scwizard: I figured that memory management reserved a tithe for bash :P 19:28 < Hunterkll> and you have 3 standard licenses already, correct? 19:28 < dragonfleas> Yes 19:28 < scwizard> eh it tries kinda but idk 19:28 < Hunterkll> so your hypervisors are ALREADY COVERED 19:28 < Hunterkll> and 6 of those VMS are ALREADY COVERED 19:28 < dragonfleas> I do have a total of 10 VM's on 2 hypervisors 19:28 < Hunterkll> all you need to do is license the remaining 4 VMs 19:28 < dragonfleas> so I need to buy 20 2-core packs 19:28 < Hunterkll> yes 19:28 < admiralspark> it's like $5/license through techsoup dragonfleas you'll be fine :) 19:28 < dragonfleas> 20 of the 8 dollar 19:28 < Hunterkll> $160 19:28 < Hunterkll> or $240 if you buy 2 extra servers worth of wiggle room 19:28 < dragonfleas> but what about the remaining 4 VM's 19:28 < admiralspark> $8, shit, it went up 19:29 < Hunterkll> THOSE ARE WHAT YOU'RE COVERING dragonfleas 19:29 < dragonfleas> ok 19:29 < Hunterkll> WE ARE LIECNSING THE UNLICENSED ONES 19:29 < Hunterkll> NOT BUYING EXTRA LICENSE FOR THE ALREADY LICENSED ONES 19:29 * Hunterkll headdesk 19:29 < dragonfleas> yeah i understand that 19:29 * admiralspark pats Hunterkll 19:29 < Hunterkll> you already have 6 covered, so you only need 4 more 19:29 < Hunterkll> $80 gets you 2 19:29 < Hunterkll> so $160 19:29 < Hunterkll> ez quickmaths 2+2=4 19:29 < dragonfleas> LOL 19:29 < admiralspark> yknow what doesn't cost a dime? Linux licensing. 19:29 < dragonfleas> tree quik mafs 19:29 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, bullshit 19:29 < admiralspark> Toss your shit on some centos vm's 19:29 < dragonfleas> Redhat? 19:30 < admiralspark> bullshit, bullshit. Did I not jsut say CentOS 19:30 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, i can't use anything that doesn't have rigid vendor support & contracts 19:30 < Hunterkll> for me, linux is more expensive than windows 19:30 < admiralspark> rofl 19:30 < Hunterkll> :) 19:30 < Hunterkll> seroiusly 19:30 < admiralspark> what is your job, then, Hunterkll ? A warm body to call a vendor? 19:30 < Hunterkll> federal law, contractual requirements, etc 19:30 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, senior systems enginer for a fortune 100 defense contractor ;) 19:30 <+AnonymooseWork> lol 19:30 < admiralspark> do you actually do anything? Or do you outsource it all to vendors? 19:30 < admiralspark> yeah 19:30 < admiralspark> so 19:30 < Hunterkll> no 19:30 < Hunterkll> I do pretty much everything 19:30 <+AnonymooseWork> lol admiralspark 19:30 < admiralspark> designated vendor caller 19:30 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, ?!? 19:30 < scwizard> so one of the advantages of running the thingy inside docker is it's easy to set a memory limit 19:31 < Hunterkll> I call vendors once every 2-3 months 19:31 < Hunterkll> lol 19:31 < scwizard> it just turns out setting it to 95% of RAM was too nice 19:31 <+AnonymooseWork> Hunterkll - ... Fortune 100 defence contractor eh? 19:31 < pcspkr> Hunterkll: is rhel more expensive for you than windows? 19:31 <+AnonymooseWork> your in Cali no? 19:31 < scwizard> gonna try 80% 19:31 < Hunterkll> pcspkr, yes 19:31 < Hunterkll> AnonymooseWork, no 19:31 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, one of the VM's is 2008 r2 19:31 < admiralspark> AnonymooseWork: hahah 19:31 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, that's fine, doesn't matter 19:31 < dragonfleas> does it still cover that with downgrade rights? 19:31 < dragonfleas> kk 19:31 < dragonfleas> how do CAL's work? 19:31 < dragonfleas> what CAL's do i need to buy 19:31 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, I call a vendor because I don't ahve time to write a kernel patch and my linux admin team is only like 7 people 19:31 <+AnonymooseWork> CAL = client access license 19:31 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, 1 user cal per user in your organization 19:31 < corn266> hey Hunterkll I'll come visit you at lockheed martin on monday 19:31 < Hunterkll> if you have 0 cals 19:31 < Hunterkll> lol 19:32 <+AnonymooseWork> you need 1 per user or device 19:32 < Hunterkll> corn266, :o maybe 19:32 < admiralspark> You have SEVEN linux admins and "no time"?? 19:32 < admiralspark> Dude, it's 2018, learn automation brah 19:32 < dragonfleas> 1 CAL per computer? 19:32 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, they're all tasked out 19:32 < dragonfleas> or per user? 19:32 <+AnonymooseWork> dragonfleas it depends 19:32 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, i also manage SCCM, SCOM, etc 19:32 < corn266> Hunterkll: as long as you're in the ASW lab 19:32 < admiralspark> > Dude, it's 2018, learn automation brah 19:32 < dragonfleas> we have more computers than users 19:32 < admiralspark> so 19:32 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, they also support other contracts too 19:32 < Hunterkll> and all the environments are separate 19:32 < admiralspark> They're not linux admins 19:32 <+AnonymooseWork> dragonfleas ok are the computers shared? 19:32 < admiralspark> they're everything admins? 19:32 < dragonfleas> what are the CAL's used for 19:32 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, no, they're mostly linux 19:32 < Hunterkll> i'm the real spread one 19:32 <+AnonymooseWork> dragonfleas nothing its just a check mark to show that you are compliant 19:32 < Hunterkll> since i do wintel and solaris too 19:32 < dragonfleas> AnonymooseWork, no everyone has their own computer 19:32 <+AnonymooseWork> ok 19:33 <+AnonymooseWork> so get user cals 19:33 < admiralspark> okay so last I checked, SCCM is a large, Microsoft, Product that does not run on Linux 19:33 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, again, I wear 3 hats 19:33 < admiralspark> but maybe it changed since last week 19:33 < admiralspark> okay 19:33 <+AnonymooseWork> DEVICE cal's work great for things like call centers where you have 10 computers and 20 employees that work opposite shifts 19:33 < admiralspark> so 19:33 < admiralspark> you're not a dedicated linux guy 19:33 < admiralspark> you're a jack of all trades? 19:33 < dragonfleas> is it these "windows server user CAL's? 19:33 < Hunterkll> most aren't 19:33 < admiralspark> nothing wrong with that 19:33 < pcspkr> I wonder what percentage of admins are truly capable cross platform 19:33 < admiralspark> I am too in a way 19:33 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, and again, we've been forced into not using centos against our wishes sometimes 19:33 < pcspkr> 10%... 5%? 19:33 < dragonfleas> what aso the CAL's are just used for compliance? 19:33 <+AnonymooseWork> yes 19:33 < dragonfleas> what about remote desktop cals? 19:33 < dragonfleas> we have 50 user cals for those 19:34 < mcj> SCCM apparently can manage Macs 19:34 < mcj> I don't buy it though 19:34 < Hunterkll> pcspkr, our linux team lead re-wrote a huge chunk of the SCSI kernel subsystem back in the day, and he's doing the linux SCOM management 19:34 < Hunterkll> lol 19:34 <+AnonymooseWork> RDP cals are the ONLY case where the license is actively enforced 19:34 < admiralspark> so you're saying you COULD do it without vendor support, you just don't because $GOVT_RULES 19:34 < Hunterkll> mcj, you'd want parallels mac management for SCCM 19:34 < mcj> I'm having the worst time managing these Macs 19:34 < admiralspark> this makes more sense 19:34 * AnonymooseWork chuckles 19:34 < admiralspark> AnonymooseWork: how bout them DHCP cals 19:34 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, well, that, and on even smaller contracts, i've been a two person shop, and i've had to have systemd and kernel patches written for me by redhat while still maintaining the day to day 19:34 <+AnonymooseWork> $oldjob used to do lots of work for LMH 19:34 < dragonfleas> AnonymooseWork, what does that mean? 19:34 <+AnonymooseWork> lol admiralspark 19:34 < dragonfleas> what situation would the license be "actively enforced" 19:34 < pcspkr> Hunterkll: scom is horribad :< 19:34 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, i could have /possibly/ done the kernel patch related to virtualization myself, but hell no not in the systemd ones 19:34 < Hunterkll> pcspkr, only if you're retarded 19:34 <+AnonymooseWork> dragonfleas - remote desktop services has a licensing server, so you need to load the CAL Into the licensing server 19:35 < dragonfleas> AnonymooseWork, we've done that 19:35 <+AnonymooseWork> ok 19:35 < dragonfleas> and the CAL's don't work for some reason 19:35 < dragonfleas> we have 2 terminal servers 19:35 < dragonfleas> and a licensing server 19:35 <+AnonymooseWork> did you configure the RD Farm to use that licensing server to get your licenses? 19:35 < dragonfleas> the servers connect to the licensing server, but they never pull the CAL's or put them into use 19:35 < admiralspark> Hunterkll: right, I see a value there, but how many times a year are you writing kernel patches or systemd shit. 19:35 < admiralspark> like 19:35 < dragonfleas> yes 19:35 < pcspkr> Hunterkll: scom is what happens when you let a bunch of OOP programmers on acid loose 19:35 < dragonfleas> i have the RD farm set up 19:35 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, twice in one year at that contract 19:35 <+AnonymooseWork> hmm 19:35 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, it kept taking down systems 19:35 < admiralspark> I've worked with 70 companies in the last 6 years, and didn't do that once 19:35 <+AnonymooseWork> hahaha pcspkr 19:35 < dragonfleas> AnonymooseWork, I think it's a bug 19:35 < Hunterkll> it was related to a fucking bios config on the latest revision of the bios on the FC630 dell blades 19:35 < admiralspark> jesus christ you must work with some shit hardware :P 19:35 <+AnonymooseWork> dragonfleas what version of RDP? 19:36 < admiralspark> wait 19:36 <+AnonymooseWork> err sorry 19:36 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, Dell FC630 blades, dual 10 core CPUs, :P 19:36 <+AnonymooseWork> remote desktop services 19:36 <+AnonymooseWork> haha 19:36 < admiralspark> baremetal installs? 19:36 < Hunterkll> no 19:36 < Hunterkll> hyper-v 19:36 < admiralspark> ohhh 19:36 < admiralspark> hahahhaha 19:36 < Hunterkll> it was a bios bug that passed all the way up throguh hyperv 19:36 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, after I get these 20 2 core packs, if I wanted to say, add another server 2012 R2 VM, would I just buy one more? 19:36 < Hunterkll> you'd buy 10 more for 2 more VMs 19:36 < admiralspark> is there anybody who runs HyperV with no issues currently? 19:36 <+AnonymooseWork> dragonfleas - what version of window sserver are you using for your RD Farm? 19:36 <+AnonymooseWork> i'm not aware of any bug that would cause the licensing not to be assigned 19:36 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, plenty fo groups 19:36 < admiralspark> I've been lucky to either be using vmware or proxmox 19:36 < dragonfleas> AnonymooseWork, Server 2012 R2 all around 19:37 < admiralspark> Hunterkll: can you name one? :P 19:37 <+AnonymooseWork> if you just set it up its probably running in the grace period, at which point after 180 days the users will get a message that "no licenses are available" to fill their request 19:37 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, wait 10 of the 8 dollar for 2 more VM's? 19:37 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, OPM, DHS, DHHS, FAA, etc 19:37 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, yes... 19:37 < dragonfleas> what the fuck 19:37 < Hunterkll> that's why you had to buy 20 to start with for the 4 VMs 19:37 < dragonfleas> but I thought the cores were covered 19:37 < admiralspark> I met with three this week who tried, one dumped 4mil into the pilot project, and abandoned it because it failed spectacularly 19:37 < Hunterkll> for 2 VMs on a host yes 19:37 < Hunterkll> you're not covering the hosts 19:37 < dragonfleas> so you have to buy for cores for EVERY vm? 19:37 < Hunterkll> you're covering the VMs on the host 19:37 < Hunterkll> pretty much 19:37 < dragonfleas> OHHHHHHHHH 19:37 < dragonfleas> that's fucking retarded 19:37 < dragonfleas> can we go back to previous licensing 19:37 < admiralspark> ^^ 19:37 <+AnonymooseWork> ... 19:37 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, they probably expected it to function just like vmware and failed miserably without the right expertise 19:37 < admiralspark> lol 19:37 < admiralspark> probably 19:38 <+AnonymooseWork> it makes more sense if you buy datacenter, but like you said techsoup doesn't include datacenter 19:38 < dragonfleas> i'm going to call up microsoft and call them a fucking piece of shit 19:38 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, but i've seen 5000+ VM deployments in a 10 rack setup 19:38 < admiralspark> and to be honest, it's not unreasonable when feature parity is promised. 19:38 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, it's about the same cost 19:38 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, you can't expect it to have gotten cheaper under new licensing 19:38 < Hunterkll> if anything, paying about the same is fine 19:38 < admiralspark> eh, biggest I worked with was 1000 vms in one rack, and it was a nightmare of shitty cpu scheduling and poor snapshot performance 19:38 < dragonfleas> It's not cheaper for non-profits that use techsoup 19:38 < admiralspark> and way overspec's hw 19:38 < Hunterkll> it's still cheaper than buying retail 19:39 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, what version? I've found Hyper-V to have better CPU scheduling than VMware 19:39 < Hunterkll> at least, for relaxed gangs allowing higher density 19:39 < admiralspark> this was whatever was $current spring 2017 19:39 < Hunterkll> 2012 R2 then? Jesus, something was wrong there 19:39 < admiralspark> I'd say so 19:39 < Hunterkll> i'd almost finger bios configuration 19:39 < admiralspark> it was before the hyperv thin os thing came out 19:39 < Hunterkll> i've fixed some big deployments with a bulk bios setting change before :) 19:40 < Hunterkll> huh? 19:40 < Hunterkll> Hyper-V Server has been around since 2012 at least, don't know if it existed before that 19:40 < Hunterkll> which is literally nothing more than server core with a few roles removed 19:40 < admiralspark> yeah, I'm talking about the new server core one 19:40 < Hunterkll> that's been around since 2012 at least 19:40 < admiralspark> the free one 19:40 < Hunterkll> that's been around since 2012 at least 19:40 < admiralspark> this was a 2012r2 stack iirc 19:40 < admiralspark> meh 19:40 < Hunterkll> i'm saying, the free hyper-v server running a cut down role server core (it's not a lighter version of windows at all) was released in 2012 and updated over time 19:41 < admiralspark> okay 19:41 < admiralspark> that's 19:41 < admiralspark> cool 19:41 < Hunterkll> Hyper-V runs under the OS anyway. the "windows" you see is the same as dom0 in Xen 19:41 < officerrando> please no. please no hyper-v server 2012 19:41 < Hunterkll> lol 19:41 < Hunterkll> that as the first version of hyper-v worth using 19:41 < Hunterkll> 2012 R2 is when they really started punching VMware in the face 19:41 < Hunterkll> 2016 was a massive fuck you with features VMware took a year and a half to implement that they're just now putting out 19:41 < Hunterkll> like virtual TPMs and shit 19:41 < officerrando> server 2012 != hyper-v server 2012 19:42 < Hunterkll> officerrando, domain join it and use it as a hypervisor, it's just server core with hyper-v? 19:42 < officerrando> the hyper-v server suuuuuuucks 19:42 < Hunterkll> officerrando, it's literally 2012 core with roles removed. that's it. 19:42 < officerrando> no. it's not just server core. it's stripped down 19:42 < Hunterkll> all it has is hyper-v and file roles 19:42 < Hunterkll> that's all 19:42 < Hunterkll> what else do you need on a hypervisor!? 19:42 < officerrando> management is limited to the scp 19:42 < Hunterkll> so it is on server core too 19:43 < Hunterkll> officerrando, 2016 doesn't have that "minimal gui" bullshit anymore. 19:43 < Hunterkll> thank god 19:43 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, so how many core's do you have to license per VM 19:43 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, whatever your host has 19:43 < dragonfleas> with 8 being the minimum 19:43 < Hunterkll> So if you have 16 or more cores, then you must license all of those cores again in order to get permission to spin up two more VMs. If you need two more VMs in addition to that, then you must license all of those cores again. You just repeat the process until all your VMs are covered. 19:44 < Hunterkll> http://www.mirazon.com/windows-server-2016-licensing-cores-versions-and-virtual-machines/ 19:44 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll → Windows Server 2016 Licensing: Cores, Versions, and Virtual Machines | Mirazon 19:44 < Hunterkll> like halfway down 19:44 < Hunterkll> officerrando, if you're using hyper-v, it should be server core, with nothign but the hyper-v role installed, which means you have no GUI management tools at all, and you should be using RSAT remotely 19:44 < Hunterkll> the onyl thing you should do is configure networking and that's it 19:44 < dragonfleas> So your server isn't really licensed until all the cores are covered and THEN that's when the 2 VM's are allowed there 19:44 < officerrando> yeah, in an enterprise environment probably 19:44 < Hunterkll> so functionally, hyper-v server and 2012 core are no different 19:44 < pcspkr> Hunterkll: + failover cluster 19:45 < Hunterkll> pcspkr, shush you 19:45 < Hunterkll> officerrando, in any environment 19:45 < Hunterkll> RSAT is free 19:45 < officerrando> Hunterkll: but i'm in the smb market. that's just ridiculous effort with almost 0 return 19:45 < Hunterkll> ridiculous effort? 19:45 < Hunterkll> sconfig 19:45 < officerrando> rsat costs a box somewhere 19:45 < Hunterkll> *configures networking. domain join* 19:45 < Hunterkll> yes. your laptop. 19:45 < pcspkr> sconfig doesn't work with device guard 19:45 < admiralspark> pcspkr: he's on a roll, let him be ;) 19:46 < officerrando> why would i need to take a laptop? I could just log into the standard server. 19:46 < Hunterkll> officerrando, and if you're running windows VMs on top of it, why are you running the free hyper-v server anyway? 19:46 < dragonfleas> So if I wanted to bring in a new physical 20 core server, it would cost 160 to get it licensed, and get it to be able to run 2 VM's correct? 19:46 < officerrando> inherited environment. 19:46 < officerrando> 20 employees. 11 servers. 19:46 < Hunterkll> whoever set that up is retarded, but still, you shouldn't have a mangement GUI on your damn hypervisor, that's just increasing attack surface 19:46 < Hunterkll> even 2012 Core doesn't have the gUI 19:47 < Hunterkll> still have to use RSAT 19:47 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, yes 19:47 < officerrando> and i'm saying that in a small law firm of 20 people, attack surface of the hypervisor is the last thing we need to worry about 19:47 < officerrando> standard gui install is just fine. 19:47 < Hunterkll> and a resource hog 19:47 < Hunterkll> and a bit of a performance sucker too 19:47 < Hunterkll> but whatever 19:48 < Hunterkll> also far more patch reboots 19:48 < admiralspark> Hunterkll: would you also argue PHP is secure and the fault lies within Apache? 19:48 < officerrando> this industry is way too academic about shit 19:48 < admiralspark> You just seem to love all the shit the rest of us hate ;) 19:48 < officerrando> "acccccttuuuallly" should be our motto 19:48 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, no, this is more like running apache without PHP is more secure 19:49 < Hunterkll> officerrando, *shrug* I worked in a testing lab with about 40 employees and two rack servers. everything was done via RSAT on laptop & vsphere client 19:49 < Hunterkll> using free esxi 19:49 < Hunterkll> lol 19:49 < officerrando> in order to minimize attack surface, all my clients have standalone workstations, with no network devices. we use floppy disks to exchange files, which are copied from one floppy to another via a secure workstation 19:49 < Hunterkll> having to actually log into a server is time consuming 19:50 < officerrando> i'm working on eliminating the floppies, and moving to just telling each other what's in the documents 19:50 < Hunterkll> officerrando, there's a difference between being a pendantic twat, and taking easy to use steps that are rather... industry standard suggestions 19:50 < Hunterkll> it's not like i made this shit up on my own 19:50 < Hunterkll> lol 19:50 < Hunterkll> microsoft's end goal is that you never, ever have to log directly into a server 19:50 < Hunterkll> to the point they're making a webmin for windows 19:50 < Hunterkll> lmao 19:50 < officerrando> I've been doing this for 25 years, including in TS/SCI SAP/SAR enviroments, (SCIFs). I'm aware of security. I'm also a realist. 19:50 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, yes, that's what i vew this new windows admin tool as - webmin for windows :D 19:51 < Hunterkll> officerrando, i mean, really the worst bit was when you said nooo not hyper-v server because ... it's the same as server core management wise. 19:51 < officerrando> the juice/squeeze ratio. 19:51 < Hunterkll> now "It doesn't have the GUI and that doesn't work for us" is better 19:51 < Hunterkll> lol 19:51 < pcspkr> the absolute worst shit is people rdp'ing into every goddamn box 19:51 < admiralspark> Hunterkll: you mean the Project Honolulu thing? 19:51 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, yea 19:51 < Hunterkll> it's released now 19:51 < Hunterkll> lol 19:51 < admiralspark> Oh man, me fucking too. I'll agree with you there 19:51 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, half the functions i use daily aren't even in it 19:52 < Hunterkll> and MS does straight up admit it's SMB targeted 19:52 < Hunterkll> it'd actually be perfect for the scenario officerrando is talking about though 19:52 < pcspkr> it's targeted towards all the clickops sadmins out there 19:52 < Hunterkll> clickops 19:52 < Hunterkll> i like that 19:52 < admiralspark> I've been forcing myself to do everything through PS/ps remoting/invoke-command so that I don't ahve to touch the gui at all by the time we begin playing with 2019 19:52 < Hunterkll> 2019 still will have GUI 19:52 < Hunterkll> lol 19:52 < admiralspark> No I know, but it's PS support will be the best yet 19:53 < Hunterkll> powershell for windows is complete 19:53 < officerrando> sysads have the arrogance to feel like their way is always right, and every environment must be the same. from enterprise to bob's burger shack. 19:53 < Hunterkll> according to dave cutler 19:53 < Hunterkll> now it's just modules 19:53 < admiralspark> so if I never have to click into an RRAS gui again I'll be happey 19:53 < Hunterkll> officerrando, if i thought that my work environment would work wildly different 19:53 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, i hope you're only using it for RADIUS 19:53 < Hunterkll> lol 19:53 < Heresiarch> s/clickops/deprecated/g 19:53 < admiralspark> Hunterkll: nah fam, alway on vpn 19:53 < Hunterkll> wat 19:53 < admiralspark> s/alway/always 19:53 <+layer-eight> [SED admiralspark] Hunterkll: nah fam, always on vpn 19:53 < Hunterkll> oh 19:53 < Hunterkll> directaccess 19:54 < admiralspark> No, DA was deprecated :P 19:54 < Hunterkll> whatever 19:54 < Hunterkll> guess people coudln't handle all the IPv6 :p 19:54 < admiralspark> I point it out because I used to use DA and was forced to 100% rebuild to move to AOVPN, which is BS because it's SSTP all the way down 19:54 < admiralspark> yeah 19:54 < admiralspark> hey man, hex is HARD 19:54 < Hunterkll> officerrando, It's not about that my way or anyone else's is 'right' - it's that i'm more hardline about vendor guidance to make sure shit works properly - and microsoft has wildly different guidance depending on size of installation 19:54 < Hunterkll> like a web based admin UI instead of RSAT for SMB 19:54 < Hunterkll> lol 19:55 < officerrando> yeah, webmin and tools like it are pretty dumb 19:55 < officerrando> just like SBS was dumb 19:55 < Hunterkll> or like, in my environment, physical DCs with bitlocker in locked cages 19:55 < Hunterkll> but in your environment, virtualized DCs 19:55 < Hunterkll> microsoft says both is right 19:55 < Hunterkll> depends on threat model really 19:55 < Hunterkll> officerrando, i think we can both agree thank fucking god SBS is dead 19:55 < Hunterkll> long live essentials! 19:55 < officerrando> it's not fully, however. 19:56 < admiralspark> oh hey 19:56 < Hunterkll> well, it's still in support but yea 19:56 < admiralspark> Hunterkll: you bitlocker servers? 19:56 < officerrando> yeah. essentials. create users with the wizard or half their shit won't work. /wrists 19:56 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, in some cases, yes 19:56 < admiralspark> do you have auto-decrypt or do you manually put in a key on reboot? 19:56 < pcspkr> auto-decrypt via tpm 19:56 < Hunterkll> if you have virtual TPMs 19:56 < Hunterkll> which we don't 19:56 < Hunterkll> :P 19:56 < admiralspark> you mentioned physical DC's? 19:56 < pcspkr> physical tpm's on physical 19:56 < asimon> Speaking of TPM's 19:56 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, one scenario we needed at-rest encryption before we had an FDE'd SAN 19:57 < pcspkr> you can do network based unlock as well these days 19:57 < Hunterkll> officerrando, i've never used it in a work env (luckily) but at home it seemed to work fine, backup agent and all 19:57 < asimon> is there a way for us to enable the TPM's on existing machines remotely or through scripts 19:57 < admiralspark> yeah, that's why I was asking, it counted for your at-rest encryption? 19:57 < admiralspark> pcspkr: how? 19:57 < asimon> I had to do it in the BIOS on my test machine 19:57 < officerrando> Hunterkll: which? essentials? 19:57 < Hunterkll> asimon, yes, SCCM even has some support in task sequences 19:57 < Hunterkll> officerrando, yes 19:57 < admiralspark> asimon: possibly. Dell? 19:57 < Hunterkll> it was my first 2012 AD 19:57 < asimon> Dell, yeah 19:57 < Hunterkll> lol 19:57 < pcspkr> admiralspark: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/information-protection/bitlocker/bitlocker-how-to-enable-network-unlock 19:57 <+layer-eight> * pcspkr → BitLocker How to enable Network Unlock (Windows 10) | Microsoft Docs 19:57 < officerrando> it works great. but you have to use their wizard for stuff. that's a PITA when you forget 19:57 < Hunterkll> network unlock needs a LOT of moving pieces 19:57 < admiralspark> pcspkr: thanks. 19:58 < Hunterkll> officerrando, ahhh you meant half the shit doesn't work when you make the user manually 19:58 < namol> asimon: yes you can 19:58 < officerrando> we have it at 2 offices. first one, i forgot and added a user a year later through aduc. 19:58 < Hunterkll> whoopsies 19:58 < Hunterkll> :D 19:58 < admiralspark> asimon: Dell's Command | Connect or whatever can do it too if you're not an SCCM shop 19:58 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, bitlocker worked for at-rest, or FDE'd san 19:58 < pcspkr> red hat is also working on network-aware encryption 19:58 < officerrando> yeah. had to dump his whole account, and recreate using the wizard. THEN rebuild his workstation profile because it was a different SID. 19:58 < admiralspark> Hunterkll: did you see any performance hit? 19:58 < asimon> admiralspark: +1, thank you 19:58 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, for the site we needed the at-rest, we had incoming about 500 million healthcare records 19:58 < Hunterkll> so we bitlockered a drive on a fileserver inside a VM 19:58 < officerrando> just dumb. at least SBS let you get away without doing all that. 19:58 < Hunterkll> and just typed in the key on reboot 19:58 < Hunterkll> >_> 19:59 < admiralspark> oh 19:59 < admiralspark> yeah 19:59 < admiralspark> okay 19:59 < Hunterkll> but nah 19:59 < admiralspark> I'm....working with slow disk, so I have to consider encryption overhead :P 19:59 < Hunterkll> and the encrypted SAN was no performance difference than unencrypted 19:59 < namol> we're doing MBAM in our environment, yet our security analyst can't quite figure out that sccm reporting for it... 19:59 < admiralspark> Hunterkll: all flash? 19:59 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, it's as much overhead as anything else 19:59 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, all rotational 19:59 < Hunterkll> 48 10K spindles 19:59 < Hunterkll> two Equallogic PS6210X units, SED drives 19:59 < admiralspark> yeah, we're near-line 15k sas rn 19:59 < Hunterkll> so encryption was drive-offloaded 19:59 < admiralspark> hopefully moving all-flash soon 19:59 < admiralspark> ahhhh 20:00 < admiralspark> good to know 20:00 < admiralspark> wait 20:00 < admiralspark> no, I must be missing something 20:00 < admiralspark> oh 20:00 < namol> we're using infinbox for our SAN 20:00 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, the disk hit isn't through encryption, it's through CPU 20:00 < admiralspark> you have bitlocker enabled on a windows vm so the vmdk is encrypted at the os level 20:01 < pcspkr> Hunterkll: aes-ni 20:01 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, correct 20:01 < officerrando> wouldn't you encrypt the vmdk at the hypervisor level? 20:01 < admiralspark> Hunterkll: I've measured just last week about a 20% I/O hit on some laptops as POC for my boss 20:01 < admiralspark> but those are single drive platters going out of rotation 20:01 < Hunterkll> officerrando, no, you'd encrypt the storage the VMDK resides on 20:01 < namol> officerrando: that's only just been added in vmware 6.7 20:01 < Hunterkll> officerrando, in this case, we didn't have SAN encryption 20:01 < admiralspark> Hunterkll: thanks for the info 20:01 < Hunterkll> officerrando, we removed the bitlocker when we had encrypted SAN 20:02 < officerrando> ahh, encrypted san sounds dope. new fancy things. 20:02 < pcspkr> Hunterkll: or if you don't trust your SAN admins 20:02 < Hunterkll> yea, we were also on ESX 5.5/vSphere 5.5 20:02 < admiralspark> pcspkr: hahaha 20:02 < Hunterkll> pcspkr, that's part of the threat model that includes physical domain controllers 20:02 < Hunterkll> seriously 20:02 < Hunterkll> admiralspark, he's not wrong 20:02 < pcspkr> yes 20:02 < officerrando> sometimes i miss enterprise. but i don't miss the hassle or unmet expectations. :) 20:02 < admiralspark> my san admin is my sysadmin 20:02 < Hunterkll> if you virtualize your DCs, consider your SAN admins domain admins 20:02 < admiralspark> small shop 20:02 < Hunterkll> unless you have them on separate clusters 20:02 < Hunterkll> lol 20:03 < alazare619> there was a huge debate in here that virtual domains should not be trusted at all 20:03 < alazare619> V-DC's i should say 20:03 < Hunterkll> what 20:03 < Hunterkll> and i wasn't here for that? 20:03 < Hunterkll> fuck 20:03 < officerrando> it's a fair point, depending on the likelihood of tamper 20:03 < Hunterkll> i have a whole threat model speech for that! 20:03 < Hunterkll> me: I'm worried about hyper-visor exploits from state actors 20:03 < officerrando> depends on your physical security. 20:03 < Hunterkll> grandma's bakery: not so much 20:04 < Hunterkll> grandma needs a DC for reasons, okay 20:04 < Hunterkll> REASONS 20:04 < officerrando> we have a client with 3 locations, and 0 DCs. all standalone pcs/laptops. they're starting to grow, and i'm flip flopping on building a domain. just don't have a compelling reason to 20:04 < namol> Hunterkll: if you're worried about that, then you're surely taking steps to segment all network and management traffic to the hypervisor hosts 20:05 < officerrando> ^^ 20:05 < namol> officerrando: azure AD 20:05 < admiralspark> man 20:05 < namol> Hunterkll: and using dedicated PAW to admin the environment 20:05 < Heresiarch> hm. Does AAD require an underlying domain, or can it be purely DaaS? 20:05 < officerrando> air gap your management network. 20:05 < admiralspark> I don't know why finance is so up in arms about state actors. The Grid and the defense contractors themselves are the ticking time bombs 20:05 < admiralspark> literally and figuratively 20:06 < officerrando> no underlying domain req. just join it up so long as your desktop OS is new enough. 20:06 < Hunterkll> namol, if i have to jump throguh one more citrix session... 20:06 < namol> Hunterkll: that's not a paw... 20:06 < pcspkr> too much network segmentation on DC's is kinda pointless 20:06 < pcspkr> DC's are required to be exposed as fuck by default 20:06 < Hunterkll> Heresiarch, depends on how you do it 20:07 < Hunterkll> namol, i'm well aware of how each security model is supposed to work 20:07 < Hunterkll> i'm also aware of the realities of a remote workforce and the steps needed to secure that, too 20:07 < Hunterkll> I've only been in the office once this year. :) 20:07 < Hunterkll> our account segmentation is ludacrious though 20:07 < Heresiarch> Hunterkll: I'm in a similar situation as officerrando, but I've also got a set of C-levels who squeal whenever you mention capex of any form. 20:07 < namol> allow me to upsell you some over priced product that will ease all your woes! 20:07 < Hunterkll> as are the number of AD domains and forrests 20:08 < Hunterkll> i think we're up to 35 forests now? 20:08 < Hunterkll> soon to go down again though 20:08 <@JollyRgrs> lol... this dude's name is Arshit 20:08 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, better than aholeman@google.com 20:08 < hxcsp> LMAO 20:08 < hxcsp> oops 20:09 < hxcsp> dam,n you weechat. swithcing windows on me 20:09 <@JollyRgrs> yeah, you better oops! 20:09 < Hunterkll> that's a real person at google 20:09 < hxcsp> ;p 20:09 < Hunterkll> or was 20:09 < Hunterkll> he let me hold a project aura unit 20:09 < Hunterkll> :o 20:09 <@JollyRgrs> i was watching modern marvels last night, there was this guy Harry McCrakin 20:09 <@JollyRgrs> or mccrackin... one of those two 20:10 < alazare619> who in here is a docker guru 20:10 < Hunterkll> felda 20:10 < fr0ddy__> im a docker newbie 20:10 < alazare619> need some help making a docker file with some extra repo's and packages but based on ubntu 16.04 20:10 < felda> wut 20:10 < Hunterkll> i only have docker installed on my desktop because i'm using Watson 20:10 < Heresiarch> alazare619: I'm useful enough to be dangerous, what's your question? 20:10 < dragonfleas> I guess our servers are 40 core 20:10 < dragonfleas> we have dual 20 core processors Hunterkll 20:11 < Hunterkll> no you don't 20:11 < dragonfleas> this shit is going to be expensive because we ran out of donations with techsoup 20:11 < Hunterkll> you think you do 20:11 <@JollyRgrs> lol 20:11 < dragonfleas> what? 20:11 < dragonfleas> hyperthreading? 20:11 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, you're looking at task manager, aren't you 20:11 < Hunterkll> :p 20:11 < AnimalFarmPig> I'm on an airplane, vatos 20:11 < dragonfleas> yeah does this only apply to physical cores not logical cores? 20:11 < Hunterkll> correct 20:11 < Hunterkll> only physical 20:11 < alazare619> umm 20:11 < Hunterkll> logical = fake 20:12 < alazare619> 2 servers dual 2 processors and hypertherading 20:12 < fr0ddy__> * claps * Hunterkll 20:12 < AnimalFarmPig> dragonfleas: not ordering as many Microsoft products as you can in your once-every-18-months ordering cycle? novice error 20:12 < Hunterkll> alazare619, you don't have the context here 20:12 < alazare619> so 40 cores total.../2 to git rid of hyper threading thats 20.../4 as 4 processors thats 5 20:12 < alazare619> never heard of a 5 core processor... 20:12 < Hunterkll> alazare619, what the fuck are you doing? 20:13 < Hunterkll> alazare619, he has two servers with two 10 core cpus 20:13 <@JollyRgrs> math is hard 20:13 < fr0ddy__> My mind is jumbled 20:13 < Hunterkll> 2x server, each server has 2xcpu 20:13 < Hunterkll> each cpu is 10 core 20:13 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.amazon.com/INTEL-PROCESSOR-E5-2698V4-2-2GHZ-CM8066002024000/dp/B01DTYQHTG 20:13 < alazare619> so no hyperthreading then 20:13 < Hunterkll> god damn 20:13 <@JollyRgrs> he totally has this $3500 processor 20:13 < fr0ddy__> Hunterkll, youre right 20:13 < Hunterkll> are you people all fucking idiots? 20:13 < AnimalFarmPig> alazare619: the lower core count AMD Thuban line of processors could be unlocked up to 6 cores. There were people who ended up with 3 and 4 core processors unlocked to 5 core. 20:13 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: no, my wife is pretty smart, TYVM 20:13 < Hunterkll> alazare619, he is trying to figure out windows licensing counts, and saw the logical core count, and got scared 20:14 < alazare619> i dont care 20:14 < alazare619> i'm just saying 5 core was trying to prove or deny hyperthreading 20:14 < Hunterkll> where the hell did you get 5 core from? 20:14 < Hunterkll> I guess our servers are 40 core 20:14 < Hunterkll> we have dual 20 core processors Hunterkll 20:14 < alazare619> hence above never heard of a 5 core so i'm stating he likely has 10 core without hyperthreading ;) 20:14 < alazare619> see math above 20:14 < Hunterkll> yes, we determined that a while ago 20:15 < Hunterkll> where'd you get the 4 processors from?! 20:15 < alazare619> he said 2 servers 2 processors each so we have a factor of 4 20:15 <@JollyRgrs> i determined that 2+2=4 is a farce 20:15 <@JollyRgrs> challenge me! 20:15 < Hunterkll> he also said 'our servers are 40 core' 20:15 < alazare619> yes Hunterkll i get that 20:15 < Jekotia_> I missed the start of this conversation, but from recently consulting with CDW about Windows Server licencing: virtual/threads don't count. 20:15 < fr0ddy__> Jeeaz 20:15 < Hunterkll> which means, 2 cpus total of 40 cores 20:15 < alazare619> take the factor of 4 with hyperthreading thats 8 20:16 < alazare619> so 40/8 = 5 20:16 < alazare619> but 40/4 = 10 20:16 < fr0ddy__> * facepalm* 20:16 < alazare619> so he has 10 cores 20:16 < Hunterkll> don't see where you got the 4 cpus total from 20:16 < Hunterkll> he said the servers. themselves. are. 40 cores. each. 20:16 < alazare619> he said dual socket... 20:16 < AnimalFarmPig> if you're buying through techsoup, you can get server editions of Windows for like $50. Just buy Datacenter and be done with it. 20:16 < Hunterkll> he didn't say 40 cores total across all servers 20:16 < alazare619> dragonfleas> we have dual 20 core processors Hunterkll 20:16 < Hunterkll> alazare619, ya, so he's thinking he has 2 20 core processors in each server 20:16 < Hunterkll> point? 20:17 < fr0ddy__> divide by 2 for processor count and /2 for hyperthreading 20:17 < Hunterkll> AnimalFarmPig, techsoup doesn't have datacenter 20:17 < AnimalFarmPig> and, they include multiple licenses when you buy. iirc, you get 5 server licenses per donation 20:17 < alazare619> the math is spot on is my fucking point are you fucking having a stroke? 20:17 <@JollyRgrs> can't we alll just..... get along? 20:17 < AnimalFarmPig> Hunterkll: oh, been a while since I looked 20:17 < Hunterkll> alazare619, nothing he indicated said he had 40 cores across 4 sockets 20:17 < Hunterkll> absolutely nothing 20:17 < Jekotia_> JollyRgrs: Of course not. 20:17 < alazare619> Hunterkll: ffs man omg 20:17 < Hunterkll> "dual 20 core processors" = 40 cores 20:17 <@JollyRgrs> arguing on the internet is like ________________ 20:17 < Hunterkll> then "we have 40 core servers" 20:17 < Hunterkll> 2xcpu = 40 cores 20:17 < alazare619> how dense can you be again i'm trying to find out based on the 40 cores total " " and the dual socket what type of processor he has 20:17 < alazare619> jesus fuck 20:18 < Hunterkll> he has dual 10 core cpus like i said 20:18 < fr0ddy__> dual 10 core processors 20:18 < alazare619> if he has ht or not 20:18 < Hunterkll> in each physical server 20:18 < Hunterkll> he does 20:18 <@JollyRgrs> there's times when it is best to just drop it (like it's hot) 20:18 < alazare619> and i fucking agreed jesus fuck bro 20:18 < Hunterkll> that's why he came back going OMFGWTF 20:18 < Hunterkll> he had even given us the CPU model number earlier 20:18 < Hunterkll> lol 20:18 * alazare619 throws stapler at Hunterkll 20:18 < Hunterkll> hence why i said you didn't have contextg and not to worry about it 20:18 < Hunterkll> so early on 20:18 < fr0ddy__> This is why I should stay away from the internet 20:18 < AnimalFarmPig> I'm not aware of any 20 core / 20 thread x86 processors 20:18 < Hunterkll> but then you're like wtf 20:18 < Hunterkll> lol 20:18 <@JollyRgrs> .yt why can't we be friends 20:18 < Hunterkll> tryina' do dum mafs 20:19 < alazare619> aint got time to scroll up :P 20:19 < Jekotia> JollyRgrs: Because the internet is a hole of anominity and hate :c 20:19 < Hunterkll> alazare619, that's why i said you don't have context and not to worry 20:19 < Hunterkll> Jekotia, yea well fuck you buddy 20:20 <@JollyRgrs> look, i'll agree to be friends with Hunterkll AND alazare619 if they would both just give up on this (or would it be more impactful to agree to be friends with neither if they'll just drop it?) 20:20 < Hunterkll> fuck off 20:20 <@JollyRgrs> so i take it the latter 20:20 < Hunterkll> alazare619 somehow thought through a twisting of english language that somehow a dual socket server had 4 sockets so idk :D 20:20 < alazare619> JollyRgrs: i thought we were already friends... 20:20 < Hunterkll> actually, in fact, he never mentioned that there were only two servers 20:20 < Hunterkll> how'd you know to think of two? :o 20:21 < alazare619> we played rocket league together all those times! 20:21 < Hunterkll> i bought rocket leauge 20:21 < Hunterkll> never played it 20:21 <@JollyRgrs> i think Hunterkll is roid-raging and alazare619 is just speaking another language than Hunterkll 20:21 < Jekotia> I think this channel needs to take it's Joy pills 20:21 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: your loss, CS:EVE playin MFer 20:21 < alazare619> should play with us some time Hunterkll 20:21 < Hunterkll> i just wanna jizz on Jekotia's face 20:21 <@JollyRgrs> now now, Hunterkll, what would your PO say about that? 20:21 < alazare619> me JollyRgrs killdash9 "The loud One" aka giant_it_burrit all play it together some times 20:22 < GreyKite> alazare619: console or pc? 20:22 <@JollyRgrs> it's been a long time since giant_it_burrit has played 20:22 < GreyKite> or are the rocket league servers linked? 20:22 < alazare619> doesn't matter anymore GreyKite 20:22 <@JollyRgrs> and alazare619 you only played once in recent mammory 20:22 < alazare619> cross platform cross realm now 20:22 < alazare619> JollyRgrs: lives been in the way 20:22 <@JollyRgrs> GreyKite: you can't team up cross-platform... yet 20:22 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, what po 20:22 < Hunterkll> o.o 20:22 < alazare619> lots of real life struggles and shit 20:22 <@JollyRgrs> that's coming this summer (except for PS players) 20:22 < Hunterkll> i don't have a PO yet 20:23 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: oh, haven't assigned the replacement yet? 20:23 < Hunterkll> haven't copped any new charges yet to require one 20:23 < Hunterkll> o.o 20:23 < Hunterkll> my name isn't manafort damnit 20:23 <@JollyRgrs> lol 20:23 < Hunterkll> “I have struggled with this decision,” Judge Amy Berman Jackson said. But she concluded that couldn’t come up with a release order she could issue that would prevent Manafort from further attempts at witness tampering, which he was indicted for last week. “This is not middle school, I can’t take his cell phone,” she said. 20:23 < GreyKite> JollyRgrs: I'll keep that in mind 20:23 < Hatter> I feel a bit unwell 20:23 < Jekotia> I just solved the mysterious "reality" of We Happy Few, the reason that everyone is supposed to be drugged up on Joy. There's only one way to explain all that apparent rage: The internet became reality. 20:24 <+giant_it_burrit> Fuck you and your rocket car soccer JollyRgrs 20:24 <@JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: what's that? i can't hear you 20:24 < Jekotia> giant_it_burrit: *football 20:24 <@JollyRgrs> scream louder, pls 20:24 <+giant_it_burrit> I'M SO ITALIAN 20:24 < Hatter> I wish I were just automatically better at rocket league 20:24 < Hatter> I don't feel like putting the time in 20:25 <@JollyRgrs> Hatter: depends on how bad you are to start with... doesn't take that much to get much better 20:25 <@JollyRgrs> it just takes a lot to get pro level 20:25 < AnimalFarmPig> Toyota Aygo soccer > rocket car soccer 20:25 < Jekotia> American football is an amazing example of stubbornness. "There's already a different game called football, but we want to call our new sport that, so fuck them we're stealing the name and causing confusion for decades to come" 20:25 < GreyKite> AnimalFarmPig: yes 20:25 <@JollyRgrs> Jekotia: no, you are confusing football with futbol 20:26 <@JollyRgrs> ;) 20:26 < GreyKite> Jekotia: well, we don't call it it football, we call it soccer 20:26 < AnimalFarmPig> Jekotia: what about Canadian football? And Irish rules football? 20:26 < GreyKite> so there wasn't a sport called football where we live 20:26 < GreyKite> now why they called it football, I've no fucking clue 20:26 < AnimalFarmPig> soccer is a more accurate term 20:26 <@JollyRgrs> http://www.businessinsider.com/why-americans-call-it-soccer-2014-6 20:26 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs → Why Americans Call It Soccer, Not Football - Business Insider 20:26 <@JollyRgrs> While calling the world's most popular sport "soccer" is typically depicted as a symbol of American ignorance, the reason we don't call it "football" like the rest of the world is Britain's fault. 20:27 < AnimalFarmPig> demanding that football only refer to soccer is like demanding that "sandwich" only refers to cuban sandwiches 20:27 < AnimalFarmPig> it simply shows how provincial you are 20:27 < AnimalFarmPig> there are many different footballs, of which soccer is one 20:27 < Jekotia> GreyKite: it may not have been popular there, but given that your country originated as British/European citizens, I doubt anyone can make an argument for "we didn't know it was a thing already" 20:27 < GreyKite> Jekotia: I didn't say that 20:28 < GreyKite> Jekotia: I said we didn't call it football 20:28 < GreyKite> you are under the delusion that we speak the same language as the UK 20:28 < GreyKite> we don't 20:28 < GreyKite> it originated in the same language though 20:28 < abakedapplepie> JollyRgrs bookmarked lol 20:28 <@JollyRgrs> The interesting thing here is that Brits still used "soccer" regularly for a huge chunk of the 20th century. Between 1960 and 1980, "soccer" and "football" were "almost interchangeable" in Britain, Szymanski found. 20:29 <@JollyRgrs> British people stopped saying "soccer" because of its American connotations. 20:29 <@JollyRgrs> so, US wins! 20:29 <@JollyRgrs> not our fault 20:29 < Jekotia> GreyKite: I'm not under any delusion. I know just how "FUCK YOU BRITISH ENGLISH" US English is 20:29 < Hunterkll> holy shit 20:29 < Hunterkll> the CFAA only has a 2 year statute of limitations 20:30 < AnimalFarmPig> Jekotia: I think you've got it reversed, mate 20:30 < Hunterkll> The Computer Fraud and Abuse Act has a two year statute of limitations that runs from “the date of the act complained of or the date of the discovery of the damage. 20:30 <@JollyRgrs> cfaa? 20:30 <@JollyRgrs> ah 20:30 < AnimalFarmPig> US English is fine with British English. It's the British who resent spread of American dialects through our cultural exports. 20:30 < Hunterkll> THINGS! I CAN TALK ABOUT THINGS! 20:30 < Hunterkll> not all the things 20:30 < Hunterkll> but some of the things! 20:30 < abakedapplepie> oh lord 20:30 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: so is it the more recent of the two? 20:31 <@JollyRgrs> like, if you did the deed 5 yrs ago, but it was just discovered 18 mo. ago... which is it? 20:31 < Jekotia> AnimalFarmPig: US english has taken established words and changed how they're spelled. How is that not going "nah, fuck off" to british, the original "standard", of english? 20:31 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, most recent 20:31 < Hunterkll> In Higgins, the Plaintiffs claimed that, while they “suspected” some sort of wrongdoing more than two years prior to the filing of their CFAA claim, they did not “actually discover the violations or damage” until later. The court found that “the statute of limitations ‘begins when facts that would support a cause of action are or should be apparent.'” 20:31 < GreyKite> Jekotia: it totally is 20:31 < abakedapplepie> also define damages, you could find most damages and fix things but then find more damage later on down the line 20:31 < abakedapplepie> i wonder how that works 20:31 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, if it's from the original act, that is the original timer 20:31 < abakedapplepie> but if the discovery of damages is most recent 20:31 < Hunterkll> you can't subsequently add time for already discovered compromises 20:31 < AnimalFarmPig> Jekotia: languages evolve over time 20:32 < AnimalFarmPig> Jekotia: much of the spelling changes attributed to American English are a result of attempting to standardize when existing standards were lacking 20:32 < abakedapplepie> ^ 20:32 < abakedapplepie> also look at the past 300 years of english 20:32 < AnimalFarmPig> there's no English language equivalent of the Academie Francaise 20:33 <@JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: can we just skip the last 10 yrs or so? 20:33 < abakedapplepie> changes have been consistently taking place inside and outside of america 20:33 <@JollyRgrs> there've been some horrible additions in the last decade 20:33 < pfsense> P f s e n s e 20:33 < pfsense> Felda 20:33 < pfsense> I am pfsense 20:33 < Hunterkll> Verizon records showed that Bernardin had used his computer to access Sewell’s AOL and Facebook accounts and changed Sewell’s passwords. 20:33 < pfsense> P f s e n s e 20:33 < AnimalFarmPig> JollyRgrs: take a selfie and write about it in your blog? 20:33 < Hunterkll> uhhh 20:33 < pfsense> P fs e n s e 20:33 < Hunterkll> oh wait verizon owns AOL 20:33 < Hunterkll> nevermind 20:33 < pfsense> Wut 20:33 < alazare619> HunterKII JollyRgrs https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/WXIqwiJA/ 20:33 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 → Snippet | IRCCloud 20:33 < alazare619> ;) 20:34 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, this has been addressed in court apparently 20:34 < felda> lmao that's my nick you jive turkey 20:34 * Jekotia wonders when this turned into #reddit-linguistics 20:34 <@JollyRgrs> felda: lol 20:34 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, someone tried to bring a CFAA complaint against someone - but did it too late. Her AOL account was compromised then 5 months later her facebook 20:34 < Hunterkll> later court allowed the facbeook calim, but not the AOL claim, to co ntinue 20:34 < AnimalFarmPig> when someone started spreading provincial ideas about US dialect... 20:34 < abakedapplepie> Jekotia: when you ran your mouth with baseless decades old rips on america 20:34 < Hunterkll> even though both were the result of the same compromise 20:34 < abakedapplepie> :) 20:35 < alazare619> fawking algebra 20:35 < alazare619> thought id never need to use it but boom i did 20:35 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, The Second Circuit acknowledged that the statute of limitations “may have troubling consequences in some situations” because “the investigation necessary to uncover the hacker’s identity may be substantial.” 20:35 < Hunterkll> hehe 20:35 < DomLS3> I've never had to use algebra. Ever 20:35 < AnimalFarmPig> I wonder if hating on algebra could be considered islamophobic 20:35 < GreyKite> DomLS3: I have 20:35 < abakedapplepie> AnimalFarmPig lol 20:35 < DomLS3> GreyKite: For? 20:35 < dragonfleas> Does windows server 2016 essentials restrict you in AD like the previous essentials versions? 20:36 <@JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: is that reason enough to remove algebra from schools? 20:36 < abakedapplepie> dont use essentials 20:36 < AnimalFarmPig> or if using it could be considered cultural appropriation... 20:36 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, don't even consider it lol 20:36 < abakedapplepie> dont be a felda 20:36 < GreyKite> DomLS3: for optimization calculations on code 20:36 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, why not use essentials, give me some reasons, my boss is standing right by me 20:36 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, if you already have a domain controller you can't use it 20:36 <+TuxedoJack> ME: Cece asked me to remote in and mentioned you'd had some suspicions about malware? What's going on? || USER: ok so long story involving my car a/c and rats. 20:36 < abakedapplepie> essentials is there for people that like to shoot themselves in the foot 20:36 < Heresiarch> AnimalFarmPig: considering the level of overlap between those who hate algebra and those who know it was invented by islamic scholars...probably not. 20:36 < AnimalFarmPig> JollyRgrs: man, if I were a young person in school today, I would totally claim that I shouldn't have to do algebra homework due to cultural appropriation. I would probably get away with it too 20:36 < dragonfleas> thanks Hunterkll 20:36 < DomLS3> GreyKite: Well whoopdie-fuckin-doo 20:36 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, it must be THE ONLY DOMAIN CONTROLLER and you must have RELIGIOUS BACKUPS 20:36 < dragonfleas> we're just trying to figure out licensing 20:36 < Hunterkll> high risk 20:36 <+TuxedoJack> ME: ... WELL! || USER: more than you need to know. || ME: You had my curiosity, now you've got my attention 20:37 < alazare619> dragonfleas: just put up a illegal kms server and be done with it 20:37 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, also, it won't cover your VMs. Essentials has no virtualization rights 20:37 < AnimalFarmPig> Hunterkll: religious backups-- so you do it once every Sunday? :P 20:37 < AnimalFarmPig> Heresiarch: good point 20:37 < GreyKite> TuxedoJack: I need this story in my life 20:37 < alazare619> might i suggest kmspico? 20:37 < Hunterkll> alazare619, this is a place of work... 20:37 < alazare619> #reddit-privacy 20:37 < alazare619> wait i did that wrong 20:37 < Hunterkll> lol 20:37 < alazare619> #reddit-piracy 20:37 < abakedapplepie> wew 20:37 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, also, it won't cover your VMs. Essentials has no virtualization rights 20:37 < abakedapplepie> like i said 20:38 < abakedapplepie> dont be a felda 20:38 < GreyKite> that's a big one right there 20:38 < abakedapplepie> get a big boy license 20:38 < Hunterkll> lol 20:38 < GreyKite> I agree with not pulling a felda 20:38 <+TuxedoJack> GreyKite: apparently, the user mistyped walmart.com into her search bar 20:38 <+TuxedoJack> Popped up a scareware popup, she freaked out and went straight to the practice manager 20:38 < abakedapplepie> malware.com? 20:38 < abakedapplepie> lol 20:38 <+TuxedoJack> PM called me direct, since she's cool, I hopped in, checked it out 20:38 <+TuxedoJack> That's part of the chat log 20:38 < Hunterkll> lol 20:39 < GreyKite> TuxedoJack: yeah, I could see there being plenty of people with malware sites that are misspellings of walmart.com 20:39 <+TuxedoJack> lolwut.jpg 20:39 < alazare619> 501c3's get reduced licesing cost from cdw and insight btw 20:39 <@JollyRgrs> walmort.com 20:39 <@JollyRgrs> waldamort.com 20:39 < Hunterkll> lol 20:39 <+TuxedoJack> I can't honestly say that I've ever had to do pest control tech support before 20:39 < alazare619> likely extremely reduced licensing cost to the point that a single datacenter license cost was only like 500 bucks 20:39 <+TuxedoJack> Outside of the shit I did with spray foam and arsenic 20:39 <@JollyRgrs> thewallmarts.com 20:39 < Hunterkll> alazare619, not always 20:39 < Hunterkll> alazare619, Microsoft doesn't discount through those channels 20:39 < AnimalFarmPig> Windows Server Standard is $8 on TechSoup 20:39 < alazare619> in his case i can say he should i worked for a non profit hospital/clinic environment as well 20:40 < alazare619> not even 4 hrs away 20:40 < Hunterkll> that's again, a totally different licensing channel as well 20:40 < AnimalFarmPig> if Microsoft still gives licenses in the way they used to, that $8 should get you 5 or 10 MAK's 20:40 < felda> what are yall talking to me about? 20:40 < alazare619> he is in a non profit 501c3 hospital clinic Hunterkll 20:40 < Hunterkll> AnimalFarmPig, that $8 is a 2 core pack. minimum 16 cores required to license. he has 20 cores per server 20:40 < abakedapplepie> oh boy 20:40 < AnimalFarmPig> Hunterkll: server standard is 2 core? 20:41 < Hunterkll> AnimalFarmPig, this is new 2016 licensing 20:41 < Hunterkll> lol 20:41 < AnimalFarmPig> https://www.techsoup.org/products/windows-server-standard--LVS-47862-- 20:41 < abakedapplepie> 2016 licensing is butt 20:41 < Hunterkll> AnimalFarmPig, read it 20:41 < AnimalFarmPig> wat, srs? 20:41 < AnimalFarmPig> that's insane 20:41 < Hunterkll> AnimalFarmPig, READ THE DAMN THING 20:41 < Hunterkll> scroll down 20:41 < Hunterkll> this is how it works agross the board 20:41 < felda> Technically doesn't Server Essentials have VM rights, but it only has 1 license so either you have a physical machine or you have a virtual machine, but you can't do both 20:41 <+layer-eight> * AnimalFarmPig → Windows Server Standard 20:41 < alazare619> Hunterkll: like I litterally had the same exact sitatuion 3 years ago we purchased a single data center license (501c3 hospital from insight) for around 500 USD 20:41 < Jekotia> Why does the Anthem gameplay trailer from E3 end on a boss that looks like testicles with spikes & teeth??? 20:41 < alazare619> granted it was from 2013 with SA 20:41 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/nonprofits/eligibility & talk to CDW or Insight 20:41 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll → Nonprofit eligibility and discounts | Microsoft for Nonprofits 20:42 < alazare619> knowing that 2016 server would be released the fllowing year 20:42 < AnimalFarmPig> sorry, on an airplane, high latency internet, second half of page didn't low 20:42 < AnimalFarmPig> load, rather 20:42 < felda> dragonfleas I would highly highly highly recommend you just bypass essentials and get standard edition 20:42 < Hunterkll> alazare619, another problem is he already ahs a VL agreement via techsoup 20:42 < Hunterkll> so other channels may or may not be able to help him 20:42 < Hunterkll> it's complex 20:43 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, https://nonprofit.microsoft.com/#/register 20:43 < Hunterkll> may be able to help you 20:43 < Hunterkll> directly 20:44 < alazare619> hmm 20:44 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, we already have all of that 20:44 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, the last link? 20:45 < dragonfleas> yeah we have a techsoup account which is essential non-profit microsoft 20:45 < dragonfleas> essentially* 20:45 < alazare619> dragonfleas: have you even got a qoute for data center licensing? 20:45 < AnimalFarmPig> man, so glad I don't have to deal with Microsoft licensing anymore 20:45 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, i'm saying, do this too 20:45 < Hunterkll> ;) 20:45 < Hunterkll> techsoup is one easy to use central program 20:45 < AnimalFarmPig> can you just migrate everything to open source? Life is so much easier 20:45 < dragonfleas> get a quote directly from microsoft non profit people? 20:45 < Heresiarch> AnimalFarmPig: preach 20:45 < Hunterkll> sigh up and get validated on that site 20:45 < Hunterkll> to see what you can do 20:45 < alazare619> yea MS direct (via insight) we got alot better MS licensing 20:46 < Hunterkll> alazare619, that's not MS direct 20:46 < Hunterkll> that's thrgouh a reseller 20:46 < Hunterkll> lol 20:46 < Hunterkll> alazare619, and he may still pay more for datacenter than standard 20:46 < alazare619> a var yea 20:46 < Hunterkll> I deal with MS direct, my reps are MS employees, I pay MS, etc 20:46 < Hunterkll> that's different 20:46 < Hunterkll> lol 20:46 < Hunterkll> ... i'm also giving them millions of dollars at a time 20:46 < alazare619> very true but he wont know till he finds out standard vs Datacenter 20:46 < Hunterkll> he should first get registered on MS's proper stie 20:46 < Hunterkll> instead of using intermediaries 20:47 < Hunterkll> alazare619, as it is, the charity sku is $309.99 for a 2 core pack for datacenter 20:47 < Hunterkll> https://www.cdw.com/product/Microsoft-Windows-Server-2016-Datacenter-license/4322481 20:47 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll → Microsoft Windows Server 2016 Datacenter - license 20:47 < Hunterkll> which is only $2,479, a huge discount 20:47 < Hunterkll> but still 20:48 < alazare619> when did MS change from socket to core? 20:48 < Hunterkll> alazare619, like 2 years ago 20:48 < alazare619> ahh 20:48 < Hunterkll> and you must license a minimum of 16 cores 20:48 < Hunterkll> and he has to go for 20 20:48 < alazare619> we got it when it was per socket but picked up SA on it 20:48 < Hunterkll> so he's on there for $3099.90 20:48 < Hatter> Are there any good films to watch this weekend? 20:48 < Hunterkll> red sparrow 20:48 < Hatter> eh maybe 20:48 < Hunterkll> i got so drunk watching that i bought plane tickets to moscow 20:49 < alazare619> the crow 20:49 < Hunterkll> (literally) 20:49 < Hatter> alazare619: I don't think that one holds up very well 20:49 < alazare619> JollyRgrs: please ban hatter he has disrespected one of the best films of all time 20:49 < Hatter> he'll agree with me 20:49 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, please ban alazare619 he has the autism of a cryptic1 20:50 < alazare619> i'm offended 20:51 < alazare619> I'm no where near hte level of cryptic1 20:52 <@JollyRgrs> Hatter: you should watch The Sandlot 20:52 < alazare619> you know going from a mech keyboard at home to a membrane at work really really sucks 20:52 <@JollyRgrs> or maybe monty python's quest for the holy grail 20:52 < alazare619> YOU THROW LIKE A GIRL 20:52 < Hatter> I could watch all of The Sandlot in my head right now if I wanted to 20:52 < GreyKite> Hatter: I can almost do that with the original Jungle Book 20:52 < Hatter> weird 20:53 < GreyKite> parents say I must have watched that movie at least a thousand times 20:53 < GreyKite> I was a weird kid 20:53 < GreyKite> not much has changed 20:53 < alazare619> my wife did that with the little mermaid 20:53 < alazare619> she has 5 vhs's 20:53 < alazare619> because she wore out the movie so many times and they had to buy a special VHS rewinder because the vcr's rewind motor gave out lol 20:53 < AnimalFarmPig> Hatter: have you ever seen "The Mosquito Coast" starring Harrison Ford, River Phoenix, and Helen Mirren? 20:53 < Hatter> yes I have 20:53 < Hatter> good film 20:54 <@JollyRgrs> Hatter: guess who's never seen the sandlot? 20:54 < Hatter> mostly about ice 20:54 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, good film, good book 20:54 <@JollyRgrs> cryptic1 20:54 < alazare619> i watched django unchained again yesterday 20:54 <@JollyRgrs> cryptic1 20:54 < AnimalFarmPig> ice is civilization 20:54 < hxcsp> JollyRgrs: i knew it 20:54 <@JollyRgrs> cryptic1 20:54 < alazare619> <3 mandingo fighting 20:54 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, my boss is so fucking pissed 20:54 < alazare619> cryptic1 20:54 < Hunterkll> Hatter, have you ever seen "The Little Cocksuckers Academy" starring AnimalFarmPig ? 20:54 < DomLS3> I watched John Wick 2 yesterday 20:54 < scwizard> so I'm not a windows guy so I don't know about ms lisencing but 20:54 < DomLS3> lisencing is hard 20:54 < dragonfleas> because previous IT guy had told him "it's fine our licensing is perfect for years" but really he wasn't doing any licensing 20:54 < Hatter> Hunterkll: only in the dailies 20:54 <@JollyRgrs> DomLS3: that's a good one, too 20:54 < AnimalFarmPig> Hunterkll: I was lucky to get the gig. Peter North was unavailable 20:54 < scwizard> is that 310 USD per 2 cores indefinite? or per year? 20:54 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, he may have been and you don't know all of it 20:55 < scwizard> i imagine it's not per month 20:55 < Hunterkll> scwizard, indefinite for 2016, with 2 years of SA coverage 20:55 < Hunterkll> 2 years of SA means when the next version comes out you can upgrade 20:55 < alazare619> its indefinite for server 2016 20:55 < Hunterkll> and you can extend SA for a much lower cost 20:55 < alazare619> ^ 20:55 < alazare619> thats exactly what we did 20:55 < Hunterkll> scwizard, but yes, microsoft licensing is SUPER EASY when you don't have 3 people trying to jump in and help at the same time 20:55 < alazare619> but with 2013 20:55 < Hunterkll> confusing and muddling the conversation 20:55 < Hunterkll> especially when server 2013 doesn't exist 20:55 < alazare619> ended up on 2016 by the time we got to installing it 20:56 < alazare619> i'm just an interupting thot 20:56 * alazare619 heyo 20:56 < Hunterkll> you and others 20:56 < Hunterkll> and everyone giving more complex wrong advice 20:56 < Hunterkll> lol 20:56 < scwizard> Hunterkll: i feel like you're making a joke there but, I don't know enough about microsoft to understand it 20:56 < alazare619> least i'm not as bad as JFDkthx 20:56 < scwizard> what does it mean "3 people trying to jump in and help" 20:56 < alazare619> randomy starts talking about poop in the middle of a serious conversation 20:56 < Hunterkll> scwizard, it wasn't a joke, it's what has been happening in this channel 20:56 < scwizard> oh 20:57 < Hunterkll> i've been trying to help and explain a specific scenario to dragonfleas and everyone else is trying to help too 20:57 < Hunterkll> ;) 20:57 < AnimalFarmPig> Microsoft's fault for changing their licensing from socket to core 20:57 < AnimalFarmPig> :P 20:57 < alazare619> yea guys we shouldn't help in this channel 20:57 < Hunterkll> nah, that part is the easy part 20:57 < alazare619> No Trolling, No Politics, No Helping 20:57 < Hunterkll> no, you shouldn't pile on and make the conversation super confusing to follow 20:57 < Hunterkll> when i can't even follow my own thread in what i'm trying to say, it gets a bit confusing 20:57 < Hunterkll> lol 20:57 < estranger> yer doing it wrong 20:57 < alazare619> sounds like you need some #adderall 20:58 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, no, he wasn't, because the stuff in our license history goes back far further than he was here 20:58 < estranger> need more nosql 20:58 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, why cant you just techsoup some shit ? 20:58 < dragonfleas> I came in and he was rearming the RDP licensing trial for our terminal servers 20:58 < Hunterkll> lol 20:58 < alazare619> O.o 20:58 < AnimalFarmPig> s/nosql/sharding 20:58 <+layer-eight> [SED AnimalFarmPig/estranger] need more sharding 20:58 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, techsoup limits organizations to only getting 25 2 core packs per 2 years 20:59 < AnimalFarmPig> sharding is the secret sauce in the webscale 20:59 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, you haven't gotten any though? 20:59 < Heresiarch> s/sharding/sharting 20:59 <+layer-eight> [SED Heresiarch/AnimalFarmPig] sharting is the secret sauce in the webscale 20:59 < AnimalFarmPig> unless they've changed it, techsoup limited you to one Microsoft order per year. So, order all your other MS shit now. 21:00 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, you can get the nonprofit pricing elsewhere though 21:00 < asimon> This is incredible. Our Dell projector was giving an error about a defective part so after some back and forth they sent us a replacement refurbished unit. Plug in the replacement unit and it wont' even start up 21:00 < Hunterkll> it's a bit more 21:00 < asimon> fuck everything 21:00 < Hunterkll> server standard 2-core packs are $45 each 21:00 < Hunterkll> etc 21:00 < Hunterkll> like i said reg on the MS stuff 21:00 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, good thing is - you have time 21:00 < Hunterkll> you're not under audit 21:00 < Hunterkll> you don't have to do it all at once 21:00 < AnimalFarmPig> you used to be able to order a Visual Studio license and get free included MSDN subscription as well. I'm not sure if they still offer it. 21:00 < Hunterkll> fix one thing a month 21:01 < Hunterkll> AnimalFarmPig, that's just visual studio subscriptions. they all include the software stuff now 21:01 < Hunterkll> MSDN is dying 21:01 < Hunterkll> bye bye 21:01 < AnimalFarmPig> #sad 21:02 < felda> anyone got a decent online programming website? 21:02 < alazare619> if he is all virtual id just pick up data center straight from MS for your total core count across all your VM hosts...if your virtual that is... 21:02 < Hunterkll> alazare619, datacenter would be $3099.90 per host for him 21:03 < Hunterkll> he has two hosts, with only 10 VMs total 21:03 < Hunterkll> and only 4 VMs are unlicensed 21:03 < Hunterkll> lol 21:03 < alazare619> -___- 21:03 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, I applied for the non-profit portal 21:03 < Hunterkll> to true up properly, at the pricing i'm seeing, direct via MS or other channels, is $900 21:03 < dragonfleas> for microsoft 21:03 < Hunterkll> word 21:03 < Hunterkll> like i said 21:03 < Hunterkll> you're in no rush 21:04 < Hunterkll> not being audited 21:04 < felda> Is Udemy actually good? 21:04 < alazare619> Hunterkll: thats not bad at all 21:04 < AnimalFarmPig> just pirate ESXi and run any Windows software you need that doesn't have a FOSS replacement in unlicensed W10 VM's 21:04 < Hunterkll> and even in audit you get time 21:04 < Hunterkll> alazare619, that's $450 per 10 skus of standard 21:04 < Hunterkll> to cover his CPUs 21:04 < alazare619> something i've never understood about non volume licensing 21:04 < Hunterkll> even retail windows server is still per-core 21:04 < alazare619> can he just use the 1 sku on all hosts? 21:04 < dragonfleas> yeah, me and my boss are creating a compliance plan 21:04 < Hunterkll> alazare619, kinda 21:04 < alazare619> or does he have to keep the vm's at 1-2 cores each? 21:04 < Hunterkll> alazare619, but this is VL 21:04 < dragonfleas> I just sent him over a rough draft of it, to lead us into compliance 21:04 < Hunterkll> no 21:05 < alazare619> oh 21:05 < Hunterkll> alazare619, VM density is never a figure in this 21:05 < Hunterkll> if i have 29305820935980 licenses of standard for 1 host 21:05 < Hunterkll> i can have that many x 2 VMs 21:05 < dragonfleas> Thank you for the explanation Hunterkll 21:05 < Hunterkll> word 21:05 < dragonfleas> once again you helped me out a lot 21:05 < Hunterkll> lol 21:05 < dragonfleas> you should change your name to Mentorkll 21:05 < Hunterkll> 1HPShm33c76uea9vEActmB4h4hASDas6NM 21:05 < dragonfleas> wtf 21:05 < Hunterkll> bitcoin 21:05 < Hunterkll> :) 21:06 < alazare619> dragonfleas: dont stroke his ego anyone he might turn back into kaiba 21:06 < dragonfleas> I only have STORJ 21:06 < dragonfleas> and some Stellar Lumins 21:06 < Hunterkll> lol 21:06 < dragonfleas> no bitcoin lol 21:06 < Hunterkll> alcohol doesn't buy itself 21:06 < Hunterkll> but i gotta type of my weekly progress report 21:06 < Hunterkll> i have a lot of shit i did 21:06 < Hunterkll> even though i was helping you during my work hours 21:06 < Jekotia> Hunterkll: Sure it does. You just have to work on dat fine ass 21:06 < Hunterkll> i extended SCCM into a nother forest, did some deployments, etc 21:06 * alazare619 Hunterkll activated alazare619's trap card. 21:06 < dragonfleas> boss said he's appreciative and thanked me for spending so much time on IRC 21:06 < Hunterkll> LOL 21:06 < alazare619> 21:07 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, just tell him that my salary during working hours is paid for by his taxes, so he's really paying me to help you 21:07 < AnimalFarmPig> IRC is a community of experts helping each other out 21:07 < Hunterkll> ;) 21:07 < estranger> thats what ive told all my bosses 21:07 < Hunterkll> AnimalFarmPig, i thought it was a community of pedos and FBI agents 21:07 < dragonfleas> lmao 21:07 < AnimalFarmPig> Hunterkll: I think that's just #python 21:07 < dragonfleas> LOL 21:07 < dragonfleas> #bearcave 21:07 < Hunterkll> http://bash.org/?178285 21:07 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll → QDB: Quote #178285 21:07 < Hunterkll> that quote sums it up right there 21:08 < Hatter> did I ever tell you guys I helped invent bash.org 21:08 < dragonfleas> n00bs are microsoft programmers 21:08 < dragonfleas> lmaoooooooooooo 21:09 < dragonfleas> http://bash.org/?244321 21:09 <+layer-eight> * dragonfleas → QDB: Quote #244321 21:09 < Hunterkll> aw fuck 21:09 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, did you not know about bash.org before? 21:09 < dragonfleas> no, this is amazing 21:09 < Hatter> classic 21:09 < Hunterkll> ..... 21:09 < Hunterkll> holy fuck 21:09 < Hatter> dragonfleas: then how did you find the best quote on it right away 21:09 < Heresiarch> Hunterkll: he's just starting out, yo. 21:10 < Hatter> oh.. well it is ranked the highest 21:10 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, that's the ancient version, the newer still updated routinely version is this - http://qdb.us/ 21:10 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll → QDB: Latest Approved Quotes 21:10 < Hatter> http://bash.org/?47 21:10 <+layer-eight> * Hatter → QDB: Quote #47 21:10 < Hatter> that's the earliest mention of me 21:10 < Hunterkll> lol 21:10 < Hatter> pretty f'n old 21:11 < Hunterkll> Hatter, yea but http://qdb.us/28957 21:11 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll → QDB: Quote #28957 21:11 < Jekotia_> Hatter: Not believable as is. Need proof of madness. 21:11 < Hatter> oh no how do I delete that 21:11 < dragonfleas> I don't believe that Hatter 21:11 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, you'd be surprised 21:11 < Hunterkll> there's 20 year old efnet logs of me 21:11 < Hunterkll> i was 9 then 21:11 < Hatter> I didn't even know about that quote 21:11 < dragonfleas> bullshit 21:11 < dragonfleas> prove it 21:11 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, do you want me to drag them off of one of the hard drives? 21:11 < Hunterkll> lol 21:11 < Hatter> I too was on efnet as a child 21:11 < Hunterkll> i've been on irc for fucking eons 21:11 < AnimalFarmPig> http://www.bash.org/?104383 <--- this is a classic 21:11 < Hatter> I ran many of the popular emulation channels back then 21:11 <+layer-eight> * AnimalFarmPig → QDB: Quote #104383 21:12 < dragonfleas> I was on usenet as a baby 21:12 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, I was also on efnet and dalnet during mid 90's 21:12 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, here's a screenshot of my laptop in 2004 https://i.imgur.com/PjZyNuU.png 21:12 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll → IMAGE/PNG Document, 2,385,155 bytes 21:12 < Hunterkll> lol 21:12 < dragonfleas> i was 3 years old browsing during the meow wars 21:13 < Hunterkll> gentoo with fake transparency 21:13 < Hunterkll> w00t 21:13 < dragonfleas> fake transparency? 21:13 < Hunterkll> ya 21:13 < dragonfleas> how is it fake? 21:13 < Hunterkll> how the background is in the termianl sessions and shit 21:14 < dragonfleas> LOL 21:14 < Hunterkll> it's not real compositing 21:14 < Hunterkll> it's an application feature 21:14 < Hunterkll> we didn't have compiz back then 21:14 < dragonfleas> so i bet it looked laggy when you moved it around 21:14 < Hunterkll> only while compiling 21:14 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, terminal just shows part of your background as background of the terminal 21:14 < dragonfleas> all i see is KAGOMEEEEEEEEEEEEEE 21:14 < AnimalFarmPig> so, if you have a window behind, you don't see that window 21:14 < Hunterkll> ^ 21:14 < dragonfleas> always knew you were a weeb Hunterkll 21:14 < Hunterkll> that's why it's 'fake' 21:15 < Hunterkll> ... the fact that i've been to two anime conventions in the past 30 days in different states didn't help? 21:15 < dragonfleas> you should come down to Tokyo in Tulsa 21:15 < dragonfleas> it's pretty cool 21:15 < Hunterkll> i'll be in LA july 4th 21:15 < Hunterkll> for anime expo 21:15 < dragonfleas> last year I cosplayed as oyasumi punpun 21:15 < dragonfleas> well 21:15 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, https://i.imgur.com/uhSZ02k.png 21:15 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll → IMAGE/PNG Document, 532,240 bytes 21:15 < dragonfleas> as punpun onodera 21:15 < AnimalFarmPig> I think ancient alien con is in the next week or so... 21:15 * AnimalFarmPig checks calendar 21:16 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, here, here's some more early ass shit - https://i.imgur.com/rdM9ixN.png 21:16 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll → IMAGE/PNG Document, 990,386 bytes 21:16 < dragonfleas> wtf 21:16 < Hunterkll> if you don't beelieve my internet creds 21:16 < Hunterkll> landline phone, open case p4, sun sparcstation, iBook G4 21:16 < dragonfleas> dude I wish my room looked like that 21:16 < dragonfleas> fucking blast from the past 21:16 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/XAnkrZx.png 21:16 < AnimalFarmPig> "AlienCon will take place June 15–17, 2018 at the Pasadena Convention Center" damn, missing it 21:16 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll → IMAGE/PNG Document, 925,387 bytes 21:16 < abakedapplepie> slobby fuck 21:16 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, look! YOU CAN EVEN SEE THE IRC CLIENT ON THE RIGHT MONITOR 21:16 < abakedapplepie> lol 21:16 < AnimalFarmPig> Hunterkll: oooooooo SparcStation 21:16 < AnimalFarmPig> Hunterkll: specs? 21:16 < dragonfleas> triple CRT's 21:17 < Hunterkll> AnimalFarmPig, fuck if i know that was like 2003 21:17 < Hunterkll> lol 21:17 < dragonfleas> P3 21:17 < dragonfleas> i bet that thing has a P3 in it 21:17 < Hunterkll> P4 21:17 < abakedapplepie> man, wish i had pics of my old battlestation 21:17 < dragonfleas> ah shit 21:17 < abakedapplepie> 3x 24" CRTs 21:17 < AnimalFarmPig> Hunterkll: pizzabox? 21:17 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, 1.5GHz P4 overclocked to 2.1GHz on the STOCK AIR INTEL COOLER 21:17 < abakedapplepie> i need a desk just to hold the monitors 21:17 < abakedapplepie> lol 21:17 < dragonfleas> LOL 21:17 < dragonfleas> >overclocking on stock cooler 21:17 < dragonfleas> did you play cs 1.6? 21:17 < abakedapplepie> dragonfleas we liked to live dangerously back then 21:17 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, i played counter-strike before valve bought the mod team 21:17 < Hunterkll> back in '99 21:17 < dragonfleas> i was 6 when i first played cs 21:18 < abakedapplepie> i hit 2,5? ghz? on my 1700+ on stock cooler 21:18 < AnimalFarmPig> I had an SS20 around that time. iirc, dual 75 MHz processors, TGX+, and something ridiculous like 512 MB of RAM 21:18 < dragonfleas> I was born in 96 so lol 21:18 < abakedapplepie> and i forgot to plug in my fan 21:18 < abakedapplepie> it ran an hour that way 21:18 < dragonfleas> honestly CSS was my childhood game 21:18 < abakedapplepie> still worked 21:18 < abakedapplepie> although it froze instantly 21:18 < AnimalFarmPig> also Type 5 keyboard and *optical mouse*! 21:18 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, so yes, in conclusion, me having 20 years of irc logs is perfectly reasonable 21:18 < Hunterkll> for you, not so much 21:18 < Hunterkll> :p 21:18 < abakedapplepie> Hunterkll wat 21:18 < Hunterkll> AnimalFarmPig, fuck i have like 3 of those laser mousepad grid things 21:18 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, nah, i started using IRC like 4 years ago 21:18 < abakedapplepie> have you really saved all your logs 21:18 < abakedapplepie> lmao 21:18 < abakedapplepie> fucking nerd 21:18 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, dude i used to move to new hdds 21:18 < Hunterkll> by copying the old one into a folder 21:19 < dragonfleas> I've only been in this IRC for like 7 months i think? 21:19 < Hunterkll> labeeld its old size 21:19 < Hunterkll> lol 21:19 < dragonfleas> maybe 8? 21:19 < Hunterkll> GUYS 21:19 < Hunterkll> GUYS 21:19 < AnimalFarmPig> Hunterkll: I hated it. Terrible mouse. Horrible DPI unless you printed your own custom pad. 21:19 < Hunterkll> THIS JUST IN 21:19 < Hunterkll> THIS JUST IN 21:19 < dragonfleas> ? 21:19 < Hunterkll> A-KO JUST TOOK A GIANT SHIT AND INFORMED ME VIA FACEBOOK 21:19 < Hunterkll> THAT IS ALL 21:19 < dragonfleas> cryptic1, ban? 21:19 < dragonfleas> wow 21:19 < Hatter> gross 21:19 < dragonfleas> i'm posting ASCII reaper again 21:19 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, yea, that's how you actually get banned 21:20 < Hatter> dragonfleas is like 13 years old right, no offense intended 21:20 < Jekotia> " i hit 2,5? ghz?" Your uncertainty about the speed AND the unit of measurement is concerning :P 21:20 < abakedapplepie> Jekotia: lol 21:20 < abakedapplepie> that was 15 years ago man 21:20 < abakedapplepie> gimme a break 21:20 < dragonfleas> ¯¯̿̿¯̿̿'̿̿̿̿̿̿̿'̿̿'̿̿̿̿̿'̿̿̿)͇̿̿)̿̿̿̿ '̿̿̿̿̿̿\̵͇̿̿\=(•̪̀●́)=o/̵͇̿̿/'̿̿ ̿ ̿̿ 21:20 < dragonfleas> THIS IS A STICK UP 21:20 < abakedapplepie> im a stoner 21:20 < abakedapplepie> i dont have memory 21:20 < DomLS3> s/stoner/gayboi 21:20 <+layer-eight> [SED DomLS3/abakedapplepie] im a gayboi 21:20 < Jekotia> Really? It looks more like a mess, dragonfleas 21:21 < abakedapplepie> :( 21:21 < AnimalFarmPig> s/gayboi/battyboy 21:21 < abakedapplepie> holy fuck 21:21 < abakedapplepie> the 1700+ released in 2001 21:21 < abakedapplepie> god i feel old 21:21 < Hunterkll> lol 21:21 < abakedapplepie> oh the thoroughbred was 2002 21:21 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, my athlon64 shirt is around here somewhere 21:21 < Hunterkll> my /launch/ shirt 21:21 < abakedapplepie> tbred was the good one right 21:22 < AnimalFarmPig> tbred vs tbird.... 21:22 < dragonfleas> Jekotia, check PM 21:22 < AnimalFarmPig> iirc, tbred was good one, tbird was cheap one 21:22 < Hunterkll> s/the 1700+/big black dads gangbang george bush 21:22 <+layer-eight> [SED Hunterkll/abakedapplepie] big black dads gangbang george bush released in 2001 21:22 < Hunterkll> lol 21:22 < Hunterkll> man 21:22 < Hunterkll> that fuckin name prefixes 21:22 < Hunterkll> make it less funny 21:23 < Hunterkll> MillerBOSS, your bot sucks 21:23 < abakedapplepie> thunderbird was pre athlon xp 21:23 < abakedapplepie> k6 i think 21:23 < Hatter> http://www.bash.org/?1235 21:23 <+layer-eight> * Hatter → QDB: Quote #1235 21:23 < Hatter> haha I'm enjoying myself 21:23 < AnimalFarmPig> no, tbird was a cheap k7 21:23 < Hatter> myself from 20 years ago or whatever 21:23 < AnimalFarmPig> k6 was just k6 21:23 < Hunterkll> lol 21:23 < Hatter> http://www.bash.org/?1760 21:23 <+layer-eight> * Hatter → QDB: Quote #1760 21:23 < AnimalFarmPig> unless it was k6+ or k6-2 21:24 < abakedapplepie> oh 21:24 < abakedapplepie> youre right 21:24 < Hatter> I feel like I'm almost exactly the same person 21:24 < Hatter> I really haven't grown much 21:24 < abakedapplepie> but it was pre athlon xp, things changed a lot in just that one year 21:24 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, pre-XP 21:25 < abakedapplepie> my first non-handmedown was a k6 650 21:25 < AnimalFarmPig> iirc, it was available both slotted and socketed 21:25 < abakedapplepie> that computer was 2k 21:25 < AnimalFarmPig> Super Socket 7 was best socket ever 21:25 <+TuxedoJack> Mine was a Pentium 4 without hyperthreading at 2.8GHz 21:26 < AnimalFarmPig> you could run Intel, AMD, or Cyrix on same socket 21:26 < abakedapplepie> yep 21:26 < Heresiarch> TuxedoJack: ...you mean a space heater? 21:26 < abakedapplepie> the glory days of x86 21:26 <+TuxedoJack> If you count the ones my parents bought, it was a PII 350MHz 21:26 < AnimalFarmPig> ^ 21:26 < abakedapplepie> i actually am pretty sure that i still have that k6 21:26 < abakedapplepie> somewhere 21:27 < AnimalFarmPig> first one I built myself was a Cyrix 6x86 120 MHz. I installed Debian on it using a giant box of floppies. My parents helped me get XFree86 running on it, back when you could potentially damage a monitor by using the wrong mode lines. 21:27 < abakedapplepie> lol 21:28 < AnimalFarmPig> turned out there weren't any games on Linux, so I switched to NT4 iirc 21:31 < deww> AnimalFarmPig: i messed up my matros card with those mode lines 21:32 < deww> matrox even 21:32 < estranger> durrrdewwwww 21:32 < deww> duuuuurrr 21:33 < AnimalFarmPig> deww: back when software could be slightly dangerous :) 21:36 < Hunterkll> lol 21:38 < Jekotia> AnimalFarmPig: You want to talk about dangerous? Try uninstalling the original release for Bungie's Myth II. There was a chance it would delete everything on your drive. 21:39 < AnimalFarmPig> Jekotia: oh, neat! 21:39 < AnimalFarmPig> presumably some kind of directory traversal? 21:40 < Jekotia> Nah. Technically it was caused by poor user choices. It deleted it's own root directory. So if you changed the default install dir from C:\ Program Files\Myth II, to C:\ 21:40 < Jekotia> Bye by C 21:42 < Jekotia> They elected to do a full recall on the original release though, and do a new run with the fixed uninstaller, which pretty much ate all of their profits 21:42 < abakedapplepie> gg bungo 21:42 < abakedapplepie> i guess things never change 21:43 < abakedapplepie> its amazing how bungie is incapable of learning from their mistakes 21:43 < Jekotia> abakedapplepie: How so? They certaintly learned from this one 21:43 < abakedapplepie> the entire destiny franchise is a comedy of errors 21:44 < abakedapplepie> the only reason people still play it is they have made a great universe that people quickly fell in love with 21:44 < abakedapplepie> myself included, ashamedly 21:44 < Jekotia> Same 21:44 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, coudl be worse 21:44 < Hunterkll> could be microsoft's debian packages 21:44 < int0x1C8> yeah, wasn't destiny supposed to be just the one game, but continuously developed for 10 years? 21:44 < abakedapplepie> int0x1C8: it was inferred but never stated 21:44 < Hunterkll> https://www.preining.info/blog/2018/06/microsofts-failed-attempt-on-debian-packaging/ 21:45 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll → Microsoft’s failed attempt on Debian packaging – There and back again 21:46 < Jekotia> Hunterkll: Is it just me or are the horizontal scroll bars on the script excerpts broken? 21:46 < Jekotia> They rapidly blink in/out of existance when I mouse over them 21:47 < Hunterkll> just you 21:47 < Hunterkll> try clicking and using 21:47 < Hunterkll> works in Edge fine for me 21:47 < komugi> someone else using Edge browser 21:47 < int0x1C8> wtf 21:47 < Jekotia> komugi: Vivaldi. 21:48 < Hunterkll> Jekotia, it's touchy in edge, but it works. you gotta mouse just right. guess i was holding it right the first time. In chrome they blink to the full width but still work 21:48 < int0x1C8> you're in the irc for /r/sysadmin and you use edge? 21:48 < Hunterkll> the site's iffy 21:48 < Hunterkll> int0x1C8, even better, i enforced it on 25k users 21:48 < Hunterkll> :) 21:48 < abakedapplepie> :'( my poor little man https://i.imgur.com/jsl7FsF.jpg 21:48 <+layer-eight> * abakedapplepie → IMAGE/JPEG Document, 290,163 bytes 21:49 < Hunterkll> for security reasons 21:49 < Hunterkll> :3 21:49 < Hunterkll> following DoD guidance configuration, even 21:49 < komugi> you can justify anything 'for security reasons' 21:49 < int0x1C8> thats some BOFH level fuckery 21:49 < Hunterkll> not really 21:49 < Hunterkll> i've been using it since it came out 21:49 < komugi> i'm kidding :P 21:49 < Hunterkll> but in terms of exploit mitigation technology Edge is top dog right now 21:49 < Hunterkll> and it beats some speed tests too 21:49 < komugi> so have I, it improved quite a bit this build 21:49 < Hunterkll> komugi, my users are on 1607 21:49 < Hunterkll> :) 21:49 < Hunterkll> Edge & Chrome are the only ones we officially support internally with Edge being the default 21:50 < Hunterkll> lol 21:50 < Hunterkll> now that Firefox is officially adopting GPO support we may move to support more of that 21:50 < Hunterkll> it's available, but we don't provide end user support 21:50 < Hunterkll> for internal applications or end user websites 21:50 < Hunterkll> we do have etnerprise compat lists enabled to eject users from edge into IE for some internal stuff 21:51 < int0x1C8> I'd like to force chrome, but our timeclock system is still flash dependent, so we have to use firefox to clock in and out 21:51 < Hunterkll> ... chrome has flash in it...? 21:51 < Hunterkll> and you can preconfigure the flash allows? 21:51 < alazare619> I'm primarily a FF user I do use vivaldi as a backup option tho 21:51 < AnimalFarmPig> Hunterkll: Edge recently got Adblock as well, right? iirc, it's kind of clunky to install 21:51 < int0x1C8> except the admin part of the clockin system, which is a java applet built for java 6 :/ 21:52 < Hunterkll> AnimalFarmPig, Edge extensions are installable sideload, or through the app store which is one click install 21:52 < AnimalFarmPig> oh, nice, even better 21:52 < Hunterkll> Edge got extensions like a year ago 21:52 < Hunterkll> ublock and RES were the first two 21:52 < Hunterkll> lol 21:52 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, so, not too long ago 21:52 < Hunterkll> i still have copies of the original extensions too 21:54 < Hunterkll> AnimalFarmPig, it was over security model concerns. extensions officially dropped august 2016 21:54 < Hunterkll> so little over a year from original release 21:55 < rhqq> morning 21:55 < rhqq> well, afternoon 21:56 < Nightcinder> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/06/florida-fraternity-members-accused-of-posting-private-sex-video-on-facebook/ 21:56 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder → Florida frat bros sued over Facebook revenge porn | Ars Technica 21:56 < Nightcinder> sounds like normal UCF to me 21:56 < Hunterkll> lol 21:57 < int0x1C8> adding that the allegations are "disturbing and antithetical to our organization's values and mission." 21:57 < int0x1C8> what about any of this is antithetical to frat bros? 21:57 < Nightcinder> let alone a party school.. 21:58 < int0x1C8> right 21:58 < Nightcinder> Simpson shared the video with his "brothers," who allegedly watched it during a fraternity meeting. 21:58 < Nightcinder> see that i just don't get 21:58 < Nightcinder> why would you want to watch your bro bang his gf 21:58 < int0x1C8> this kind of shit probably happens all the fucking time here, but we never hear about it 21:59 < Heresiarch> Nightcinder: standard stuff before they get drunk and start snapping each other's underwear. 21:59 < Hunterkll> Nightcinder, BRO GUESS WHO I JUST BANGED?!?!? who!!?!?!?! YER GF!!!! i dont believe it ! HERE WATCH ELTS SHOW EVERYONE 21:59 < Hunterkll> PARTY WOOO 21:59 < int0x1C8> and putting lubed hotdogs in eachothers ass while they sleep 21:59 < Hunterkll> int0x1C8, what school is this so i know where to not go? 22:00 < int0x1C8> UW-Madison 22:00 < Hunterkll> .... actually, you're right 22:00 < Hunterkll> i wouldn't go there 22:00 < int0x1C8> ;/ 22:00 < Hunterkll> I was hoping something classy like CMU 22:00 < Hunterkll> woulda changed my mind on not going 22:00 < Hunterkll> :D 22:00 < abakedapplepie> lol madison 22:00 < int0x1C8> I mean its a great school, but goddamn is the party scene fucked up 22:01 < abakedapplepie> id probably buttfuck fratmates with a hotdog too if i was in madison 22:01 < abakedapplepie> wisconsin blows 22:01 < int0x1C8> madison is really the only tolerable part of WI 22:01 < Nightcinder> so do you for not being a dutch apple pie 22:01 < abakedapplepie> and madison is in THE MIDDLE OF FUCKING NOWHERE HOLY SHIT MOST BORING DRIVE EVER 22:01 < int0x1C8> wat 22:02 < int0x1C8> Madison is 1.5 hours north of chicago 22:02 < Hunterkll> jeeze 22:02 < Hunterkll> i was at an anime con last year and ended up at an OSU party 22:02 < Hunterkll> lol 22:02 < Hunterkll> goddamn matsuricon 22:02 < Nightcinder> which osu 22:02 < Hunterkll> ohio state? 22:02 < Nightcinder> the real one or the fake ones 22:02 < Hunterkll> near columbus ? 22:02 < Nightcinder> oregon and oklahoma try to use OSU 22:03 < Nightcinder> they are lies and cheats 22:03 < abakedapplepie> no way thats just an hour and a half 22:03 < Nightcinder> B U C K E Y E S 22:03 < abakedapplepie> and also i came from minneapolis 22:03 < abakedapplepie> driving from mpls to madison 22:03 < abakedapplepie> so bad 22:03 < Hunterkll> nerds 22:03 < int0x1C8> UW-madison is number 3 in the nation when it comes to research grants and activity 22:03 < estranger> i havnt been to msp in a while (yay) 22:03 < abakedapplepie> i also drove to madison once from the upper peninsula 22:04 < abakedapplepie> also extremely boring 22:04 < abakedapplepie> guess ive never come from chicago 22:04 < int0x1C8> madison is ~40 mins from the illinois border, its pretty far south in WI 22:04 < Hunterkll> int0x1C8, researching buttdogs doesn't really count 22:05 < abakedapplepie> im heading out that way this summer, but going to la crosse 22:05 < abakedapplepie> my buddy is opening a brewery next monthish 22:05 < int0x1C8> the campus is the #1 spot for genetic and genomic research, so it wouldn't surprise me if they were actually experimenting with buttdogs 22:06 < Nightcinder> i gotta figure out where i wanna live for my next job 22:06 < Nightcinder> right now i live in a higher income area and work in a lower income area.. 22:06 < Nightcinder> it kinda sucks. 22:06 < int0x1C8> COL here isn't too bad 22:06 < Nightcinder> i make 53 22:07 < Nightcinder> my rent is 995, student loans are 400, car is 500 22:07 < Nightcinder> that's like all my monies 22:07 < int0x1C8> most 1 room apartments in the city are about ~$7-800 a month 22:07 < int0x1C8> I have a studio 10 mins from where I work, I pay $650 a month 22:07 < Nightcinder> if i didn't have 6% going into my 401k and acorns taking money out for an IRA or roundups it might feel like I had more money 22:08 < int0x1C8> nah you want that 401k though 22:09 < int0x1C8> lol 22:09 < int0x1C8> In 2015, UW-Madison was given a top ranking by U.S. News & World Report as a global university based on the number of times it placed within the top 100 of 21 evaluated subjects, tied with Harvard University and the University of Toronto. 22:09 < int0x1C8> eat that harvard 22:15 < Hunterkll> lol 22:15 <@JollyRgrs> s/that/a buttdog 22:15 <+layer-eight> [SED JollyRgrs/int0x1C8] eat a buttdog harvard 22:15 < int0x1C8> there we go 22:16 <@JollyRgrs> so bored 22:16 <@JollyRgrs> i should just go home 22:16 < int0x1C8> do eet 22:16 <@JollyRgrs> i've been here only 7 hrs, about a 45 min lunch... 22:16 <@JollyRgrs> so just over 6 working hours 22:16 <@JollyRgrs> problem is, joker beside me gets in like an hour earlier than me 22:16 <@JollyRgrs> i really should at least wait for him to leave before i leave 22:17 <@JollyRgrs> i don't want to ruin a good thing (me always leaving early) by someone complaining b/c i left before they did and they get in way before me 22:17 < genr8_> have him cover for you 22:17 * Hunterkll flexes 22:18 < Hunterkll> been 329802350238 years since i done set up a film work area 22:18 < Hunterkll> lol 22:18 < int0x1C8> make one of those japanese body-pillows of yourself, put it in your chair, and sneak away 22:18 < int0x1C8> no one will realize 22:18 < Hunterkll> wat 22:18 < Hunterkll> then how will it get done 22:19 < Hunterkll> this is for me 22:19 < Hunterkll> not for work 22:19 < int0x1C8> no I mean JollyRgrs 22:19 < Hunterkll> oh lol 22:19 <@JollyRgrs> genr8_: unix/linux/apps guy can't cover for SCCM guy 22:20 < alazare619> JollyRgrs: claim child medical emergency 22:20 < alazare619> JollyRgrs: kids always get hurt no one will think twice 22:20 < genr8_> all you need to do is do all your work, wait for him to show up, and tell him why you had to leave 22:20 < int0x1C8> or say you have ebolaids and diarrhea 22:20 < genr8_> get some confirmation outta him to make sure HES not the one ratting you out 22:21 < Hunterkll> lol 22:21 < Hunterkll> "Hey, you're not ratting me out, right?" *proceeds to rat out* 22:21 < int0x1C8> In June 2013, it is reported that the United States National Institutes of Health would fund an $18.13 million study at the University of Wisconsin. The study will research lethal qualities of viruses such as Ebola, West Nile and influenza. 22:22 < int0x1C8> oh snap there's actually live ebola here 22:22 < Hunterkll> u gonna die 22:22 < Hunterkll> L4 labs aint no joke 22:22 < genr8_> They found Plague the other day 22:22 < abakedapplepie> being handled by a bunch of drunk grad students 22:22 < Hunterkll> i've had that before 22:22 < Hunterkll> it's still around 22:22 < Hunterkll> plauge happens 22:22 < genr8_> you've had the plague ? 22:22 < abakedapplepie> no hes talking about plaque 22:22 < Hunterkll> it's pretty much just a bad flu if yuo get hospitalized properly 22:23 < int0x1C8> abakedapplepie, nah pretty much all grad students are asians who don't drink 22:23 < Hunterkll> also, protip: if you get paluge, masturbate a lot on everything 22:23 < Hunterkll> it both gets it out of you and gives it to everyone else 22:23 < Hunterkll> :D 22:23 < abakedapplepie> err 22:23 < genr8_> thats for sure illegal 22:23 < int0x1C8> here at least 22:23 < Hunterkll> lol wtf 22:23 < Hunterkll> ancient dave and busters paper ticket 22:23 < genr8_> knowingly plaguejizzing someone ? 22:23 < genr8_> totally illegal 22:24 < Hunterkll> genr8_, not in california! 22:24 < abakedapplepie> Hunterkll: ive misplaced so many D&B stuff over the years 22:24 < Hunterkll> wait, or was that herpes or HIV 22:24 < abakedapplepie> including at least 2 gold cards 22:24 < int0x1C8> you might be charged by the hague court of human rights 22:24 < int0x1C8> for bio-warfare 22:24 < Hunterkll> welp 22:24 < Hunterkll> found my PC/AT 22:24 < abakedapplepie> ive also walked out of dave and busters with a playstation 3 before 22:24 < Hunterkll> lol 22:24 < genr8_> whats in it 22:24 < abakedapplepie> much to the chagrin of every 12 year old there 22:25 < Hunterkll> genr8_, uhm, PC/AT components? 22:25 < abakedapplepie> the looks i got from kids and parents alike 22:25 < genr8_> what kinda hard drive 10 or 20mb? 22:25 < abakedapplepie> god damn 22:25 < int0x1C8> also I don't think the plague is present in semen 22:25 < genr8_> Take apart the case and look inside 22:25 < Hunterkll> 4 cards + the hdd controller card 22:25 < Hunterkll> dual 5.25" 22:25 < genr8_> they could be good stuff 22:25 < Hunterkll> uh, i think it's a 15MB HDd 22:25 < Hunterkll> genr8_, nah it's not really anything fancy it doesn't POST 22:25 < genr8_> its prolly fixable 22:25 < genr8_> those are worth somethin 22:26 < Hunterkll> genr8_, it was under my commodore colt and my pre-dell PC/XT clone 22:26 < Hunterkll> fixable, yes 22:26 < Hunterkll> i've done a shitload of board diag on it 22:26 < Hunterkll> i think it needs new roms burned honestly 22:26 < int0x1C8> abakedapplepie, we just got a D&B a few months ago, replaced the macy's at the mall 22:26 < Hunterkll> i spent a fair amount of time debugging it a while back 22:26 < int0x1C8> or was it jc penney 22:26 < Hunterkll> then tossed it to the side 22:26 < int0x1C8> one of the 2 22:26 < Hunterkll> my current project is my atari 800 XL home office 22:27 < Hunterkll> i have the printer, the 800 XL, two floppy drives, 200 floppies, and a brand new in box 1025 printer. and just two weeks ago picked up an XM301 modem for it 22:27 < genr8_> craptacular 22:27 < Hunterkll> i need to get the atari receipt printer to make floppy disk labels 22:27 < Hunterkll> lol 22:27 < Hunterkll> whoever owned this floppy set before me was a huge pirate 22:27 < Jekotia> int0x1C8: You don't know if you got a D&B or or a JC Penny? You need more/faster internal storage :P 22:28 < Hunterkll> there's like no legit software t all 22:28 < Hunterkll> lmao 22:28 < Hunterkll> but all the disks are full 22:28 < int0x1C8> no I can't remember if D&B replaced a macys or jc penney 22:28 < Hunterkll> genr8_, i've also got a //E, and a second backup PS/2 model 70 for my bbs, and probably fucking more, there's a timex-sinclair 1000 and a 99/4a here somewhere i'm sure 22:28 < Jekotia> int0x1C8: I know. Poking at the ambiguity of your statement 22:29 < int0x1C8> I know, you ass 22:29 < Hunterkll> somewhere there's a ... there it is ! APC Netbotz control unit 22:29 < Hunterkll> rack access px-hid 22:29 < genr8_> really? 22:29 < genr8_> those are still useable to some extent lol 22:29 < Hunterkll> i've also got a 3 phase pdu here 22:29 < genr8_> O.o 22:29 < Hunterkll> genr8_, just the control unit, no locks or senosrs or anything 22:30 < genr8_> fair enough. but still; you could sell that 22:30 < Hunterkll> dude i got it for like $5 on ebay 22:30 < Hunterkll> lol 22:30 < genr8_> really 22:30 < Hunterkll> was actually gonna use it for a netshelter we had 22:30 < Hunterkll> but that project got scuttled 22:31 < Hunterkll> where the fuck 22:31 < Hunterkll> i don't have any room to hang up my body armor 22:31 < Hunterkll> lol 22:31 < Hunterkll> but i found an imac G5 ... 22:31 < alazare619> g5 those are still PPC right? 22:31 < Hunterkll> yes 22:31 < Hunterkll> 64 bit even 22:31 < Hunterkll> .... and a case of microcontrollers 22:31 < alazare619> noice 22:31 < Hunterkll> with an arduino made cellphone, beaglebone black, and a bunch of other goodies 22:31 < Hunterkll> lol 22:31 < alazare619> always wanted to get a PPC mac the last gen ones 22:32 < Hunterkll> ??? 22:32 < Hunterkll> I still have a raspberry pi 22:32 < Hunterkll> weird 22:32 < int0x1C8> was digging around at work last year, found a box full of the literal brick cell phones 22:32 < int0x1C8> like the nokias from the 90s 22:32 < alazare619> int0x1C8: so you are saying you found the weapons of mass destruction 22:32 < Hunterkll> lol like 3 beaglebone blacks 22:32 < Jekotia> r/destruction/distraction 22:32 < alazare619> time to T9 play worm 22:33 < Hunterkll> lol 22:33 * Jekotia slaps layer-eight around a bit with a large trout 22:33 * layer-eight slaps Jekotia around a bit with a large trout 22:33 < int0x1C8> I mean you can definitely beat someone to death with them, but I don't think that counts as 'mass' destruction 22:33 < Jekotia> OH, derp, it's not r/ 22:33 < Hunterkll> int0x1C8, weapons shot out of an orbital railgun 22:33 * Jekotia fails 22:33 < Hunterkll> think about the impact force 22:33 < alazare619> drop them from the tallest skyscraper you can find 22:34 < Hunterkll> LOL 22:34 < Hunterkll> MS PACMAN VRAM ADDRESSING BOARD 22:34 < int0x1C8> meh, still less dangerous than a glocknade in fohty 22:34 < Hunterkll> and MS PACMAN FACTORY SPEAKER 22:35 < Hunterkll> must be close to the rest of the ms pacman parts 22:35 < Hunterkll> pwoer adapter marked WRT54G ... 22:35 < int0x1C8> shit now I want an orbital railgun that fires 90s Nokias 22:35 < Hunterkll> sun E450 nameplate. those are too big. i know i don't have one anymore 22:35 < Hunterkll> lol 22:36 < Hunterkll> MOLLE, CARRIER, HYDRATION 22:36 < Hunterkll> military camelbak carrier 22:36 < Hunterkll> WOAH 22:36 < Hunterkll> TAPE DRIVES, X-RAY GEAR, AND THERMAL PAPER WITH NERF BONUS! 22:36 < Hunterkll> !!! NeXT compatible MO disks! 22:36 < int0x1C8> what do you live in an abandoned radio shack/mil-surplus store? 22:37 < Hunterkll> Unopened copy of WEBROOT ANTIVIRUS SPY SWEEPER 22:37 < Hunterkll> nah 22:37 < Hunterkll> int0x1C8, though there is the stock of about 18 radioshacks between the basement and the shed 22:37 < Hunterkll> I spent like $10k just myself at 50-95% off not counting liquidation grab bags and fixtures and computer bits 22:37 < Hunterkll> my old home C891 router used to be a radioshack store router 22:38 < Hunterkll> upgraded to a juniper SRX 220H 22:38 < int0x1C8> jesus dude 22:38 < Hunterkll> lol my vendor badge from a 2013 hamfest 22:38 < Hunterkll> int0x1C8, i made the $10k back and kept the rest 22:38 < Hunterkll> i don't hurt for parts 22:38 < int0x1C8> when are you appearing on an episode of hoarders 22:39 < Hunterkll> int0x1C8, when my shit isn't in boxes and movable 22:39 < Hunterkll> lol 22:39 < Hunterkll> i'm looking in boxes as i move 'em around to set up my film lab 22:39 < Hunterkll> lol 22:39 < int0x1C8> open box -> turn upside down 22:39 < int0x1C8> boom 22:39 < Hunterkll> oh, i can still move in here too 22:40 < asimon> fuck elasticsearch 22:40 < Hunterkll> lol fuck you :o 22:40 < Hunterkll> splunk is better anyway 22:40 < asimon> its 5:00 on a friday why can't it quit it with the magic 22:40 < Hunterkll> at being shitty 22:40 < Hunterkll> hey 22:40 < Hunterkll> blank CD-Rs from the early 2000s 22:40 < Hunterkll> neat 22:41 < Hatter> oh throw those right in the trash 22:41 < Hunterkll> nah 22:41 < Hunterkll> they're touyo-yiden or however you spell it 22:41 < Hunterkll> quality AF 22:41 < Hunterkll> probably work in everything i have 22:41 < Hunterkll> i have to juggle CDR brands now 22:41 < Hunterkll> some work in some things and vice versa 22:42 < Hunterkll> .... an EMPTY BOX! 22:42 < Hunterkll> EMPTY! 22:42 < Hunterkll> THE BOX IS A LIE 22:42 < int0x1C8> early home time, suckit JollyRgrs :P 22:43 < Hunterkll> lol 22:43 < Hunterkll> my old mcdonalds store toolkit 22:43 < alazare619> 1.25 hrs left till its go home time for me 22:43 < Hunterkll> hahaha 22:44 < asimon> what in the fuck 22:44 < asimon> I literally switched branches 22:44 < asimon> and switched back 22:44 < asimon> and now the magic works 22:45 < Hatter> the what 22:45 < asimon> whatever shitty filter magic elasticsearch uses to somehow construct a filter query from the phrase "library_documentpage__get_tag_names_filter" 22:46 < asimon> that's infuriating 22:46 < Hatter> you shouldn't be trying to setup elasticsearch at this hour on a friday 22:46 < asimon> you know what 22:46 < asimon> you're right 22:46 < asimon> I'm leaving 22:47 < Hunterkll> lol 22:47 < Hunterkll> Hatter, A+ work 22:47 < Hatter> cheers 22:48 < alazare619> this hour on a friday 22:48 < alazare619> shit the only thing i did today was look at reddit 22:48 < alazare619> answer a few calls 22:48 < StrongBad> Anyone know of some good NEMA rated harsh environment switch enclosures? 22:48 < alazare619> and talked to you cucks 22:48 < Hunterkll> alazare619, I extended SCCM into another domain 22:48 < Hunterkll> took me like 5 minutes 22:49 < alazare619> BLASPHEMY 22:49 < Hunterkll> made up half my weekly progress report 22:49 < alazare619> ROF 22:49 < alazare619> READ ONLY FRIDAY 22:49 < Hunterkll> eh fuck that 22:50 < Alternity> this was the worst week i've had at work in at least 6 months 22:50 < Alternity> 2 incident reports to write up in 3 past days... 22:51 < Hunterkll> lol 22:51 < Hunterkll> stop getting haxed 22:51 < Hunterkll> motherfucker 22:52 < alazare619> Hunterkll: https://twocents.lifehacker.com/you-could-be-denied-pre-existing-condition-coverage-by-1826865657 22:52 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 → You Could Be Denied Pre-Existing Condition Coverage by Employer Health Plans if the ACA Is Repealed 22:52 < abakedapplepie> StrongBad: they aint cheap 22:52 < Hatter> have a lovely weekend gentlemen 22:52 < StrongBad> abakedapplepie: yeah I got a quote from EIC enclosures for $8k 22:53 < StrongBad> difficulty is we need around 2500BTU A/C on it 22:53 < StrongBad> ~700w max draw from the switches and it's totally sealed due to harsh environment 22:53 < Hunterkll> alazare619, i'm well aware 22:53 < abakedapplepie> jeez 22:53 < abakedapplepie> whats the environment 22:53 < Hunterkll> any type of ACA repeal - any component of it being repealed - is bad news for at least a bulk of the population 22:53 < StrongBad> outside ocean air 22:53 < Hunterkll> lol 22:53 < alazare619> so this keeping coverage so that when its repealed thing is going to fuck me 22:53 < abakedapplepie> oh yeah 22:54 < alazare619> fucking awesome 22:54 < Hunterkll> alazare619, you can't have coverage gaps anymore. i'll be fine since i'm 4 years into my current plan, but still 22:54 < alazare619> might as well just divorce my wife and let her get welfare/medicaid then 22:54 < StrongBad> you'd think with tens of thousands of miles of coastline in the world that harsh environment switch enclosures would be a bigger thing, but they aren't 22:54 < Hunterkll> alazare619, health insurance lobby has already upfront stated that costs will rise next year due to the individual mandate repeal 22:54 < alazare619> Hunterkll: yea this isnt fine for me considering the healthcare market place canceled my plan this month 22:54 < Hunterkll> like, the industry groups are all like "ya'll fukt" 22:54 < alazare619> because they "thought" we had medicaid 22:55 < alazare619> which we dont but its going to take 3 months for them to retroactively fix this issue... 22:55 < alazare619> so for the next 3 months they expect me ot pay a 1500 a month premium 22:55 < Hunterkll> alazare619, but it'll be a retroactive fix with no coverage gaps 22:55 < Hunterkll> so you're okay 22:55 < alazare619> nope 22:55 < alazare619> dont owrk that way 22:55 < Hunterkll> they'll refund that, correct? 22:55 < alazare619> they would refund the 3 months yes 22:55 < Hunterkll> it worked that way when i had a fuckup like 6 years go 22:55 < Hunterkll> lol 22:55 < Hunterkll> then that means it is no-gap retroactive 22:55 < Hunterkll> if they're refunding 22:55 < alazare619> but i cant afford 1500 a month in the mean time 22:55 < alazare619> thats the problem 22:55 < Hunterkll> credit card? 22:56 < alazare619> already maxed out for minimum deductible 22:56 < alazare619> err 22:56 < alazare619> max out of pocket 22:56 < Hunterkll> short term loan? :/ 22:56 < Hunterkll> try lending club 22:56 < Hunterkll> if they took my credit... 22:56 < alazare619> i'm litterally tapped on credit atm 22:56 < alazare619> my scores a 550 now... 22:56 < Hunterkll> ouch 22:56 < alazare619> because i'm so stretched 22:56 < StrongBad> isn't 550 as low as it goes 22:57 < Hunterkll> thank congress 22:57 < alazare619> having a spouse with a terminal illness sucks 22:57 < Hunterkll> StrongBad, 450 22:57 < StrongBad> 550-850? 22:57 < Hunterkll> i think 22:57 < StrongBad> alazare619: mind if I ask what she's suffering from? 22:57 < alazare619> its always cancer 22:57 < alazare619> always 22:57 < alazare619> if you have to ask 22:57 < alazare619> its cancer 22:57 < StrongBad> bummer. sorry 22:57 < alazare619> but yea it is cancer 22:57 < alazare619> :P 22:58 < alazare619> shit happens what can you do 22:58 < StrongBad> I've had family come back from "terminal" stage 4 so it's not always a no hope situation 22:58 < alazare619> so fuck it all 22:58 < alazare619> maybe you will see me as the next mass shooting highscore 22:58 < Hunterkll> not lupus? 22:58 < alazare619> StrongBad: hers is uncureable 22:58 < alazare619> only option is to remove whatever is effected untreatable too 22:59 < alazare619> so once it finally attacks her lymph system or nervous system its only a matter of time 23:02 < mal_will> Cancer is so crazy 23:02 < abakedapplepie> alazare619: i just want you to know that i have a lot of respect for you, i cant begin to imagine how hard it is dealing with that. and i wish you both the best. 23:03 < StrongBad> alazare619: any experimental overseas kinda treatments she can get in on? 23:04 < scwizard> ok thingy appears to scale linearly 23:04 < scwizard> this is good 23:04 < alazare619> its extremely rare form i cant even spell it without looking at it but its generally in older people theres only like 50 documented cases of people her age ever contracting it so not alot of "experiments" you know 23:04 < scwizard> although messages are being processed so fast it's hard to tell 23:04 < scwizard> but this is a good "problem" to have 23:07 < alazare619> is there like an android app store for rooted devices 23:07 < alazare619> with all kinds of pirate software in it? 23:07 < scwizard> i'd imagine not 23:07 < alazare619> i know iphones have it but never heard anything on the android circuit 23:07 < scwizard> there's probably legal concerns 23:07 < rootsudo> > recruiters that say they'll call you 23:08 < rootsudo> I love my o365 job 23:08 < scwizard> rootsudo: are you looking for a new job? 23:08 < Hunterkll> lol 23:08 < rootsudo> I do nothing but fuck around all day and I'm building a company 23:08 < rootsudo> so I'm paid to start my own company because everyones timetables is for 2-3 weeks 23:08 < Hunterkll> need any side bishes? 23:08 < rootsudo> in the future so 23:08 < rootsudo> I'm going to make a shady/not so shady supplement company that I'm going to whore out on IG and to pretty asian girls and guys 23:08 < rootsudo> that will make me a millionare in ten years 23:08 < rootsudo> and hopefully doesn't kill anyone 23:09 < Hunterkll> lol 23:09 < Hunterkll> 10 years down the line someone asks : why the fuck are we still paying this twink? 23:09 < rootsudo> But so far so good, I have two close friends who are Chinese and are doing deal negiotations for me on alibaba to source chemicals 23:09 < mal_will> lol I know someone doing that now rootsudo 23:09 < Hunterkll> lolol 23:09 < rootsudo> Hunterkll oh no, I'll be gone for sure from the company 23:09 < rootsudo> mal_will they rich rite 23:09 < Hunterkll> lol 23:10 < mal_will> eh 23:10 < mal_will> Idk if they make more than me yet 23:10 < rootsudo> I'm not going to whore a brand around, I'm going to make my own brand 23:10 < rootsudo> so it's really fun 23:10 < rootsudo> I have 10k for this venture 23:10 < mal_will> Yeah the dude I know made their own 23:10 < rootsudo> if it pays back 20k, I'm gold. I want to make 5k/month net 23:10 < mal_will> but their model is a cambodian girl 23:10 < rootsudo> I can get 5 easy 23:10 < Hunterkll> rootsudo, 'so good it'll root your socks off' there's your aussie slogan 23:11 < Hunterkll> you'll be a hit in the gay community 23:11 < rootsudo> In fact I'm going to also focus on retail sales because I know I can price compete in these SEA countries 23:11 < rootsudo> which USA companies can't because they can't solve logistics feasibly 23:11 < rootsudo> also, corruption in philippines is in my favor 23:11 < Hunterkll> lol 23:11 < rootsudo> but yeah let's talk about corruption in SEA 23:11 < Hunterkll> rootsudo, let me know if you need any cam girls 23:11 < Hunterkll> hahah 23:11 < mal_will> SO I just applied for a job, and I uploaded a resume and I did the linkedin resume, but I deleted all the job history entries form their internal app. how detrimental is this? 23:11 < Hunterkll> i got hookups 23:11 < rootsudo> Hunterkll actually I'm curious about running a cam girl platform 23:12 < Hunterkll> ....... 23:12 < rootsudo> I can get the girls easy, but I don't understand how to scale, profit 23:12 < mal_will> My place never uses the internal apps, we go off of resumes 23:12 < Hunterkll> rootsudo, tokens, duh 23:12 < Hunterkll> lol 23:12 < Hunterkll> mal_will, yer dum 23:12 < Hunterkll> hr gonna kill you 23:12 < rootsudo> Hunterkll well, yes tokens, but the payment gateway and high cahrgeback rate 23:12 < Hunterkll> terminator inbound 23:12 < mal_will> I just like, don't have the care in my 23:12 < mal_will> heart 23:12 < rootsudo> Crypto seems to be the solution but fuck you can't tell people to go to coimbase and buy some bitcoin when every few minutes its crashing 23:12 < Hunterkll> rootsudo, obviously it can't be a 100% chargeback rate 23:12 < Hunterkll> rootsudo, that and fuck buyin some crypto im just tryin to jerk it 23:12 < Hunterkll> goddamn 23:13 < Hunterkll> fuck that 23:13 < Hunterkll> i barely have enough attention span to read my cc's numbers 23:13 < rootsudo> Hunterkll obviously but everyone has a 2nd reaction to jerking it off and thinking "was it worth it" 23:13 < mal_will> tokens with cumb increments, like, 20 100, 1000 23:13 < rootsudo> motherfucker you put in your CC willingly and you're gunna charge back 100$ 23:13 < Hunterkll> those types don't really often chargeback 23:13 < mal_will> dumb* fruedian slip I guess 23:13 < Hunterkll> it's more kids who steal daddie's card and shit 23:13 < alazare619> fuck man 23:13 < Hunterkll> rootsudo, for the big spenders you get signed bank draft authorization forms and shit 23:13 < Hunterkll> lol 23:13 < rootsudo> Hunterkll Plus most USA gateways won't fucking do pharma, supplements or camgirls 23:13 < alazare619> why do the last 45 minutes on friday always seem to fucking dragggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg 23:13 < alazare619> on 23:13 < mal_will> Can you make android apps for cam girling? 23:13 < Hunterkll> ive seen people drop like $5k+ 23:13 < alazare619> and on 23:13 < Hunterkll> in a single session 23:13 < alazare619> and onnnnnnnnnnnnnnn 23:14 < mal_will> that android wallet for tokens is addictive 23:14 < rootsudo> Hunterkll okay so you seem like a reasonable guy that knows this space pretty well 23:14 < Hunterkll> lol 23:14 < rootsudo> Is every girl a work from home type deal? 23:14 < Hunterkll> rootsudo, 'reasonable guy' does not fit in this space 23:14 < Hunterkll> just sayin' 23:14 < Hunterkll> rootsudo, nope, hahahah 23:14 < rootsudo> That's what I thought, they gotta commute to an office 23:14 < mal_will> I know a woman who runs her own 23:14 < rootsudo> these are SEA girls? 23:14 < Hunterkll> bet you a fair amount of the multi-girl ones are in a farm in romania 23:14 < rootsudo> I would love to run a legit farm in SEA 23:14 < Hunterkll> and they aren't commuting 23:14 < mal_will> She rakes in girls by promising big benefits, like full wfh, no minimum hours 23:14 < Hunterkll> they aren't allowed to /leave/ 23:14 < rootsudo> but man you say cam girl site, they say human trafficing 23:15 < Hunterkll> they get their IDs and passports taken n shit 23:15 < Hunterkll> lol 23:15 < mal_will> no site rent, flat fee for advbertising space 23:15 < Hunterkll> well, not all of 'em 23:15 < Hunterkll> i know a bunch of legit ones too 23:15 < rootsudo> So you know a women that runs a prison 23:15 < rootsudo> See that's the thing I want to avoid creating 23:15 < Hunterkll> i've jerked to a few who live in one 23:15 < scwizard> yeah the thingy completed too quickly when compared to the workload size to accurately messure 23:15 < scwizard> that's good tho 23:15 < Hunterkll> lol 23:15 < rootsudo> Hunterkll congrats 23:15 < mal_will> The woman I know is normal af 23:15 < rootsudo> I guess 23:15 < Hunterkll> didn't know it at the time :P 23:15 < mal_will> and her girls look normal and clean 23:15 < Hunterkll> still would 23:15 < Hunterkll> lol 23:16 < rootsudo> of course we all would Hunterkll 23:16 < rootsudo> The question here is 23:16 < rootsudo> Branding, marketing, exposure, keeping the girls on the book and avoiding turnover as the daddies get the girls 23:16 < Hunterkll> eh 23:16 < Hunterkll> you attract signups by being a big name 23:16 < rootsudo> and probably paying off local law enforcement to not shut you down as a human trafficing bullshit 23:16 < Hunterkll> to get freelancers 23:16 < rootsudo> That's the easy part for freelancers 23:16 < Hunterkll> the 'farms' don't work for the sites 23:16 < Hunterkll> the sites are 100% legit 23:16 < rootsudo> I mean for lonley people to even consider 23:16 < Hunterkll> the big ones are american companies even 23:17 < rootsudo> Also, platform and such, how do you run it 23:17 < Hunterkll> the mills make the girls sign up accounts and run them 23:17 < Hunterkll> uh 23:17 < Hunterkll> there's a fuckload of different ways 23:17 < Hunterkll> first you install sharepoint 23:17 < rootsudo> I hope you're fucking joking 23:17 < alazare619> rootsudo: if you think was it worth it after spanking it you didnt do a good enough job 23:17 < Hunterkll> .... i can actually think of three ways to make that work 23:17 < s7rawman> This is a dumb question, but I can't think of the term(if there is one). What's it called when one provides go live dates in stages, instead of one go live date for everyone? 23:17 < Hunterkll> rootsudo, dear god i can think of a way to make a multi-person chat site in sharepoint 23:17 < rootsudo> s7rawman staging 23:18 < Hunterkll> oh god 23:18 < rootsudo> Hunterkll Why do you want a nail spiked dildo in your ass? 23:18 < s7rawman> Alright. thanks rootsudo 23:18 < Hunterkll> rootsudo, don't make me integrate exchange as the backend for token accounting 23:18 < rootsudo> okay 23:18 < Hunterkll> each token you buy is another email in your box 23:18 < rootsudo> now I am amused 23:18 < rootsudo> how would you 23:18 < rootsudo> so someoen can forge tokens by manipulating emails 23:18 < rootsudo> is what you're saying 23:18 < Hunterkll> no 23:18 < Hunterkll> because it's not user facing/exposed 23:18 < Hunterkll> i'm just using mailboxes as chip co unters 23:19 < Hunterkll> instead of something sane like a database 23:19 < Hunterkll> i'm using EWS as a front end to the mailboxes to use the mailboxes as a database 23:19 < rootsudo> For some sad reason 23:19 < Hunterkll> :D 23:19 < rootsudo> I think that exists somewhere 23:19 < Hunterkll> hey 23:19 < rootsudo> Can't place it 23:19 < Hunterkll> online shopping cart/ecommerce addons for sharepoint exist 23:19 < rootsudo> but 23:19 < Hunterkll> so 23:19 < rootsudo> I've seen those but didn't think people actually use them 23:19 < Hunterkll> like full blown shopping site, not like some internal requsition bs shit 23:19 < rootsudo> Kinda thought of it the dev whoring themselves out for a crazy person, who has money 23:19 < Hunterkll> with CC processing etc 23:19 < Hunterkll> someone updates/maintains them 23:19 < alazare619> anyone know of any good ebay managmenet software thats opensource and free 23:19 < alazare619> like a e-store cms 23:20 < rootsudo> alazare619 notepad 23:20 < alazare619> but runs as a desktop app 23:20 < Hunterkll> why open source? 23:20 < Hunterkll> ebay turbolister works just fine 23:20 < rootsudo> Hunterkll question here is why free 23:20 < Hunterkll> turbolister is free 23:20 < alazare619> Hunterkll: doesnt have to be opensource but id prefer it just free or reasonably affordable 23:20 < Hunterkll> oh turbolister is ded 23:20 < rootsudo> been dead 23:20 < rootsudo> plus it's html editor sucked 23:20 < Hunterkll> coulda sworn i had one i used a few years ago 23:21 < alazare619> opensource id prefer just so that you know community audited so that i know its not going to steal my account once i have a fw grand in it 23:21 < rootsudo> yes 23:21 < rootsudo> because community audited code is always secure 23:21 < Hunterkll> alazare619, why would the listing program have access to your paypal account?? 23:21 < rootsudo> Hunterkll because people use the same password for everything 23:21 < alazare619> idk how this shit works bruh if its a restful api or what :P 23:22 < Hunterkll> i dunno i do like 30-50 items a month and i use website 23:22 < Hunterkll> lol 23:22 < rootsudo> im jelly of this dev job i see at my workpalce 23:22 < rootsudo> person just sits all day doing manual ftp/ssh instead of rsync and makes 50$/hr 23:22 < Hunterkll> lol 23:23 < Hunterkll> ahahahha 23:23 < Hunterkll> let's make a new game engine 23:23 < Hunterkll> called Thomas 23:23 < Hunterkll> we'll make billions 23:23 < rootsudo> in other news default o365 rules make it so if you put a forwarder it alerts admins, but not if you add yourself to a mailbox or ps-session into a PC to steal their OST 23:23 < Hunterkll> lol 23:23 < rootsudo> Hunterkll and make it blue and market it as a tank engine program in london? 23:24 < rootsudo> I enjoy the ironies in Exchang 23:24 < rootsudo> You'd have to be stupid to add yourself to a mailbox as you'll create audit logs, but just doing a backup makes almost no real entires 23:24 < Hunterkll> two words: backup operator 23:25 < Hunterkll> "test run" 23:25 < Hunterkll> "service account" 23:25 < rootsudo> ^ 23:25 < Hunterkll> i got this 23:25 < Hunterkll> all day long 23:25 < alazare619> i'm going to buy some chinesse boys and have them work in a factory and crank out cheap china stuff 23:25 < alazare619> and sell it on ebay 23:25 < rootsudo> alazare619 you're doing it wrong 23:25 < alazare619> ill be a millionaire in no time 23:25 < Hunterkll> why boys 23:25 < Hunterkll> you gay 23:25 < rootsudo> you don't buy the boys, because you'll have to cloth, feed and direct them 23:25 < rootsudo> you rent them out during business hours 23:26 < Hunterkll> lol rentboy 23:26 < rootsudo> employer as aa service 23:26 < alazare619> Hunterkll: because unlike girls they can work 30 days a month 23:26 < alazare619> girls can only work 23 days a month 23:26 < rootsudo> alazare619 so you scale back to 25 days for girl at 50% wages 23:26 < Hunterkll> that... is not true at all 23:26 < Hunterkll> the united states marine corps would like to argue with you on that point 23:26 < rootsudo> you make it up in volume and can employ twice the force for the same capital and enjoy a extra week off per month 23:26 < rootsudo> I feel like a manager 23:26 < alazare619> not a bad idea... 23:27 < alazare619> how about 25% wage for a girl 23:27 < Hunterkll> AaaS 23:27 < alazare619> and 4 times as many 23:27 < Hunterkll> Ass as a Service 23:27 < alazare619> ^ 23:27 < Hunterkll> i can finally use my domain slut.solutions 23:27 < alazare619> wait no... 23:27 < mal_will> periods aren't like. mandatory 23:27 < alazare619> Asians as a Service 23:27 < Hunterkll> nope 23:27 < alazare619> can we just sew it shut? 23:27 < Hunterkll> i also have whore.solutions 23:27 < rootsudo> alazare619 Nah, because you need to create brand equity and loyality 23:27 < Hunterkll> alazare619, that's how you get toxic shock syndrome 23:27 < rootsudo> You want the asians to tell the other asian girls that you' good guy 23:28 < alazare619> how about mandatory histys for all female employees 23:28 < alazare619> #TeamHistory #AsianGenocide 23:28 < Hunterkll> errrr 23:28 < alazare619> wait 23:28 < alazare619> err 23:28 < rootsudo> too much 23:28 < alazare619> #TeamHisty 23:28 < Hunterkll> i'll just put this on my list of thi ngs on my visa application when i go to russia yea? 23:28 < rootsudo> Hunterkll Putin probably would appoint you to something at that point 23:29 < Hunterkll> lol 23:29 < rootsudo> but yeah lifestyle companies 23:29 < rootsudo> is what you want to invest in because once you create a brand to whore around 23:30 < rootsudo> people will look up to it as if it's a real tangible thing 23:30 < rootsudo> which really, it isnt and using technology to uphold a lifestyle is even better 23:31 < alazare619> you know if i knew chinesse Asians As A Service could be a real thing... 23:32 < alazare619> the more i joke about it the more it seems legit like you got something you want produced use Asians As A Service 23:32 < rootsudo> alazare619 it's a real thing already 23:32 < rootsudo> targeting and offshoring projects to reap in the profit and do things cheaply 23:33 < rootsudo> but question: domains in redemption period 23:33 < rootsudo> how do you recover them or are you fucked? 23:37 < alazare619> https://github.com/pvrs12/anesidora 23:37 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 → GitHub → pvrs12 → Anesidora → Anesidora - Pandora extension for Firefox → @ ~ 3 months ago → JavaScript → ✡ 8 → Forks: 6 → ☹ 7 23:38 < Sousapro> I'm a sysadmin and what is this? 23:45 < Hunterkll> Sousapro, i don't know but apparently layer-eight thinks javascript is jewish 23:46 < ibttis> how's it going chadmins? 23:46 < GreyKite> ibttis: is it Monday yet? 23:46 < ibttis> no 23:46 < Hunterkll> monday is the best day 23:46 < Hunterkll> hey where'd this giant bottle of hydrocodone come from 23:47 < Sousapro> Hunterkll: you get that when your leg gets rekt 23:48 < Hunterkll> no no they gave me percs which are oxy 23:48 < Hunterkll> i forget where these came from 23:48 < Sousapro> hydro for no reason 23:48 < Sousapro> lol 23:48 < Hunterkll> IDK MY BFF DRUGS? 23:49 < SleePy> Printers where against me today more than usual 23:50 < kd0t> any see those huge bug bounties on intels h1? 23:51 < Hunterkll> H1? 23:51 < kd0t> hackerone 23:52 < kd0t> like 3 20k vulns 23:52 < Hunterkll> i'm thinking of getting some booze 23:52 < Hunterkll> and installing microsoft products randomly 23:52 < kd0t> o_i 23:52 < rootsudo> wow 23:52 < rootsudo> A Jill cingular joke in 2018 23:52 < rootsudo> I got it 23:52 < Hunterkll> lol 23:53 < Hunterkll> kd0t, i need to figure out 100% by monday skype/excahgne in depth SCOM MP config anyway 23:53 < Hunterkll> so i need at least sharepoint, SCOM, 3x SQL, S4B 2015, Exchange 2016, etc 23:53 < Hunterkll> so maybe everclear 23:54 < genr8_> switch to linux 23:54 < rootsudo> Hunterkll suicide is easier 23:54 < Hunterkll> rootsudo, nah i can do this in like 3 hours 23:54 < Hunterkll> i think i have most of it scripted already 23:54 < alazare619> uhhhhh 23:54 < rootsudo> Fuck what'a that word 23:54 < rootsudo> when someoen snipes your domain 23:54 < alazare619> on his knees bitch plz 23:55 < Hunterkll> rootsudo, uh, domain sniped? 23:55 < rootsudo> Hunterkll see no it's weird 23:55 < genr8_> cybersquatted 23:55 < Hunterkll> no that's when someone just sits on a domain and such 23:55 < Hunterkll> and puts up ads n shit 23:55 < genr8_> at least mine was a word 23:55 < Hunterkll> rootsudo, cybered? 23:55 < Hunterkll> :) 23:55 < rootsudo> Friend had a domain, her name, it's pretty legit, her webhost went AWOL, it expired, and now another registrar grabbed it 23:55 < Hunterkll> wait 23:56 < genr8_> yoinked ? 23:56 < Hunterkll> how long ago did it expire? 23:56 < rootsudo> <60 days 23:56 < Hunterkll> might still be in redemption and parked by registrar 23:56 < Hunterkll> if you can find out who webhost used you might be able to work it through 23:56 < rootsudo> That's what I think, but man everyone is giving her shit 23:56 < rootsudo> from her ad company, webhost, even ICANN said not our problem lol 23:56 < Hunterkll> For 30 days after the expiration date the domain will be available for renewal during a grace period. After the 30 day grace period, the domain will enter a hold period known as the Redemption Period for another 30 days. To recover the domain during the Redemption Period the registry requires a $150 USD fee. 23:56 < Hunterkll> so 23:57 < Hunterkll> if it's in redemption a registrar may be using it 23:57 < rootsudo> That's what I saw too, 23:57 < Hunterkll> as a parking page 23:57 < kd0t> serious or na? https://i.imgur.com/zH6RIpL.jpg 23:57 <+layer-eight> * kd0t → IMAGE/JPEG Document, 44,209 bytes 23:57 < rootsudo> That's correct, it's parked 23:57 < Hunterkll> yea gotta find out how 23:57 < Hunterkll> webhost should be able to do it for a fee.... 23:57 < Hunterkll> rootsudo, there's also a chance it might expire=-expire and be available again 23:57 < Hunterkll> get a domain sniping service on it 23:57 < Hunterkll> in case all other options fail 23:58 < kd0t> whats the average award for a serious vuln with intel? 23:58 < Hunterkll> a blowjob and $3.50 23:58 < kd0t> lol 23:58 < kd0t> standard 23:59 < rootsudo> wow fucking webhost abuse phone number says this is for law enforcement only 23:59 < Hunterkll> p much 23:59 < Church-> Got love all the shady shit done in business.) --- Log closed Sat Jun 16 00:00:00 2018