--- Log opened Wed Jun 20 00:00:03 2018
--- Day changed Wed Jun 20 2018
00:00 < abakedapplepie> but python is easily understood
00:00 < abakedapplepie> sp
00:00 < abakedapplepie> /shrug
00:00 < rhqq> abakedapplepie: exactly opposite to me :)
00:00 < abakedapplepie> it seems better, more universal to me
00:00 < rhqq> whatever floats your goat
00:00 < rhqq> but bash gets way too much hate
00:00 < abakedapplepie> as long as youre not loading in obscure python libs, raw python code is much easier to understand than bash scripting and core utils and tons of switches and crap
00:00 < rhqq> for its capabilities and ubitiquity
00:00 < sadbox> I mainly just dislike python for specific "do linux utility stuff", i.e. shelling out to "mkfs", etc over and over again just muddies the logic to me
00:01 < abakedapplepie> but i also prefer powershell over bash too because there arent a mishmash of "function"s that you just have to "know" intrinsically
00:01 < abakedapplepie> i can refer to easy documentation in powershell
00:01 < abakedapplepie> and the commands all say exactly what they do right in the name
00:01 < abakedapplepie> what does awk do? i have no fucking idea
00:01 < abakedapplepie> but write-host is pretty clear to me
00:01 < rhqq> well
00:01 < abakedapplepie> or get-offlineaddressbook
00:01 < rhqq> then we have nothing to discuss about :P
00:01 < rhqq> because bash+coreutils have best documentation ever
00:02 < pcspkr> lol
00:02 < pcspkr> rhqq: gnu info?
00:02 < abakedapplepie> debatable
00:02 < sadbox> abakedapplepie: FWIW I think that's more of a statement about how much you use ps vs. bash/shell scripts
00:02 < rhqq> pcspkr: manpages?
00:02 < abakedapplepie> bash is for greybeards
00:02 < abakedapplepie> who memorize manpages
00:02 < abakedapplepie> i dont have time for that
00:02 < rhqq> lol
00:02 < abakedapplepie> i like to understand shit even if ive never seen it before
00:02 < rhqq> call me greybeard :P
00:02 < abakedapplepie> i use bash, sadbox
00:02 < abakedapplepie> i struggle because everything is just a random 3 letter command
00:03 < rhqq> abakedapplepie: im most likely younger than you
00:03 < dragonfleas> Honey Roasted Cage Nuts for breakfast
00:03 < abakedapplepie> with random switches
00:03 < abakedapplepie> and switch syntaxes
00:03 < rhqq> not random switches, everything documented, and again, if you dealt with shitty bash code
00:03 < rhqq> then you have shitty experience
00:03 < abakedapplepie> you have to intrinsically know these switches
00:03 < dragonfleas> hey guys
00:03 < rhqq> it's a good pracitce to use long switches for scripting
00:03 < dragonfleas> What does networking seal say?
00:03 < abakedapplepie> i can tab complete function arguments in powershell though
00:03 < abakedapplepie> and its all plain english
00:03 < pcspkr> bash is shit tier compared to powershell
00:03 < abakedapplepie> i know what its doing even if ive never used it
00:04 < pcspkr> abakedapplepie: install bash-complete for bash
00:04 < sadbox> abakedapplepie: You can tab-complete arguments in bash
00:04 < rhqq> i can tab complete shit in bash too, so not sure what are you talking about
00:04 < sadbox> <3
00:04 < rhqq> yeah
00:04 < abakedapplepie> the arguments still dont make sense in plain english though
00:04 < pcspkr> but I'm not counting on anyone reimagining the unix shell any time soon
00:04 < abakedapplepie> or the functions/commands
00:04 < xe0n> morn
00:04 < abakedapplepie> like i said bash is great
00:04 < rhqq> in fact, learning bash, vim and coreutils is 2 months and then you can do 95% o linux-related tasks with ease
00:04 < abakedapplepie> if you know bash
00:04 < abakedapplepie> and knowing bash is a lot
00:05 < dragonfleas> The networking seal says Arp! Arp! Arp!
00:05 < rhqq> haha
00:05 < dragonfleas> huehuehuehue
00:05 < pcspkr> dragonfleas: then it doesn't speak ipv6
00:05 < abakedapplepie> but begs the question why do things have to be so convulted
00:05 < dragonfleas> Can you list all of the public top level domains?
00:05 < dragonfleas> ICANN
00:05 < abakedapplepie> just beause its been around for 30 years doesnt mean its good lol
00:05 < dragonfleas> huehuehuehue
00:05 < rhqq> abakedapplepie: wrong
00:05 < rhqq> it means it's been tested across 3-4 decades
00:05 < rhqq> and proven to be most efficient
00:05 < dragonfleas> How many programmers does it take to change a lightbulb?
00:05 < rhqq> because it has changed a lot
00:06 < agent_white> Anyways. I disagree with 'you should need to know -x cuz it's basic flag' when I could just read my path and bashrc.
00:06 < rhqq> since early unix days
00:06 < rhqq> ed -> ex -> vi -> vim
00:06 < sadbox> rhqq: I wouldn't go so far to say that bash is good
00:06 < dragonfleas> None, that's a hardware problem.
00:06 < dragonfleas> huehuehuehue
00:06 < rhqq> sadbox: it's good for it's purpose, and crappy for all beyond that
00:06 < agent_white> Bash is for simple scripts, complex and use a proper language ;)
00:06 < pcspkr> and perl is not a proper language
00:06 < rhqq> i have quite complex (500-1k lines) scripts, pure bash
00:06 < agent_white> Yikes.
00:07 < abakedapplepie> dumb
00:07 < rhqq> and they're all clear to read, really
00:07 < rhqq> and faster than whatever else you'd use for that, i'm very sure about that
00:07 < agent_white> Yeah, I would not do that.
00:07 < abakedapplepie> clear to read if you have 5-10 years experience working in bash lol
00:07 < agent_white> $10 says my ruby script would be more readable, shorter, and clearer for future people to use.
00:07 < rhqq> again, you had very shitty bash experience
00:07 < rhqq> not my problem
00:07 < rhqq> my code is easy to read by beginners, i assure you
00:07 < sadbox> agent_white: really, reallllllllly depends on what you're writing
00:08 < agent_white> Nah I just don't neek 1k lines of buffer when I can make it better.
00:08 < rhqq> all expanded parameter names and proper comments
00:08 < sadbox> agent_white: I've got stuff for chopping up OS images, etc, doing a bunch of yum bullshit, porting that to not-bash will just be a shitload of "RUN THIS COMMAND"
00:08 < rhqq> so when i came back to them after 3 years it was still perfectly readable
00:08 < rhqq> ^^^ that
00:08 < sadbox> bash, even in 1k+ lines, is sane
00:09 < rhqq> given used properly... because it can be all noodles, but then that applies to every single language
00:09 < rhqq> anyways, time for a hike to me
00:10 < agent_white> sadbox: True. I guess it is personal preference. I prefer to not write bash. But I will when needed.
00:11 < sadbox> agent_white: I prefer not to write it as well :P just arguing to use it when it's.... useful
00:11 < agent_white> Oh yeah! I don't deny that.
00:11 < rhqq> rule of thumb to me is "use bash whenever you're not using arrays"
00:11 < agent_white> Right tool for the right job.
00:11 < sadbox> everything else I do is in python  or go for the most part
00:11 < agent_white> rhqq: I'm on board with that entirely.
00:11 < rhqq> sed is perfect for 95% of text manipulation
00:11 < rhqq> so again, bash + coreutils
00:12 < agent_white> I'm just kicking myself for not knowing that bash flag. >:|
00:12 < rhqq> because sysadmin work is either configuring shit (text editing), managing files (mv,cp, rsync, wget) or installing packages
00:12 < rhqq> so then python would call external commands for that...
00:12 < rhqq> for like half of that shit
00:13 < sadbox> outside of wget those are all things that python would do natively :P
00:13 < sadbox> "natively" -- run syscalls
00:13 < rhqq> apt?
00:13 < rhqq> i guess there's a python lib for absolutely everything
00:13 < sadbox> installing packages is a shitshow yeah
00:13 < rhqq> question is whether your system has it (or required version of python)
00:13 < rhqq> while bash + coreutils (at least 3.x version) is everywhere
00:13 < sadbox> I think there's yum libs
00:14 < sadbox> but I don't use them
00:14 < rpifan> hi
00:14 < pcspkr> yum is written in python
00:14 < rpifan> yum
00:14 < rpifan> i prefer yuck
00:14 < sadbox> pcspkr: it is indeeeeeed
00:14 < xe0n> ebonny eyeeesss
00:14 < sadbox> pcspkr: which is why I assume they exist
00:14 < sadbox> but I've also used yum, so I'm guessing they are HORRIBLE
00:14 < rpifan> i acthually created the python channel on our corporate slack
00:14 < rpifan> its pretty dead
00:14 < rhqq> well, but then python for `yum` is perfectly justified, since it is an actual program
00:15 < rhqq> and this is intended use of python
00:15 <@JollyRgrs> "let me just run my package handling script utility"
00:16 < rpifan> ill handle ur package
00:16 < rpifan> and correct errors
00:16 <@JollyRgrs> nothx
00:16 < agent_white> oh bb
00:16 <@JollyRgrs> i don't trust unsigned scripts to handle my package
00:16 <@JollyRgrs> you never know if the script is dirty
00:16 < rpifan> ive got signatures
00:16 < rpifan> lots of them
00:17 < agent_white> the best signatures
00:17 < nickster> Ok, this: https://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-Battery-Rack-Mount-SMART1500LCD/dp/B000DZRY9C?keywords=rackmount+ups&qid=1529446569&sr=8-3&ref=mp_s_a_1_3 or this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/TRIPP-LITE-Smart-Ups-1000va-800w-Avr-SMART1000RM1U-NEW-Batteries-RACKMOUNT/202335345179?hash=item2f1c205a1b:g:O2MAAOSwjOxayViV
00:17 <@JollyRgrs> i revoked pimp certs
00:17 <+layer-eight> * nickster →  TRIPP LITE Smart Ups 1000va 800w Avr SMART1000RM1U (NEW Batteries) RACKMOUNT  | eBay
00:17 < sadbox> JollyRgrs: you might want to get unit tested
00:17 < nickster> Need help on deciding between a ups
00:17 < rpifan> i have signatures
00:17 < rpifan> the best signatures
00:17 < rpifan> signatures u cant even believe
00:17 < nickster> I already have one that looks like that eBay ups so it'd blend in nicely
00:18 < rpifan> i made more python scripts at work today
00:18 < rpifan> but no one cares
00:18 < joelazot> Morning
00:18 < joelazot> doing my first ever freeipa install today
00:18 <@JollyRgrs> rpifan: we don't care either
00:19 < rpifan> why not
00:19 <@JollyRgrs> b/c i'm still in the office
00:19 <@JollyRgrs> dealing with stupid issues because stupid other teams don't know how to stupid keep their shit straight
00:19 <@JollyRgrs> so i'm stupid still in my stupid office chair doing stupid help for the stupid people
00:20 < xe0n> sounds pretty stupid
00:20 < rpifan> ill ake over ur jb
00:20 < rpifan> job
00:22 <@JollyRgrs> xe0n: since i should be home by now...
00:22 <@JollyRgrs> and it isn't my fault
00:22 <@JollyRgrs> yes
00:22 <@JollyRgrs> it is stupid
00:24 < hxcsp> JollyRgrs: well its like 630.  Now you get to expense dinner
00:26 < xe0n> is that actually a rule? lol
00:26 < xe0n> i've got to expense dinner on trips, but not because i've stayed back in the office lol
00:27 <@JollyRgrs> xe0n: not a rule here
00:27 <@JollyRgrs> i wish it was
00:33 < joelazot> the freeIPA installer is complaining about my system running out of entropy. Any suggestions?
00:33 < Stoob> add more entropy
00:34 < rpifan> whats ipa
00:34 < joelazot> How would I do that?
00:34 < pcspkr> rpifan: red hat's AD
00:34 < rpifan> oh
00:34 < rpifan> interesting
00:35 < rpifan> does it integrate into windows
00:35 < pcspkr> yes
00:35 < pcspkr> if you mean you can integrate it with AD
00:36 < sadbox> joelazot: yell at it back to not use fucking /dev/random
00:36 < Church-> Bah, screwed something up with my algorithm. Bollocks.
00:36 < joelazot> i feel like im being treated like im not a retarded 15 year old
00:37 < joelazot> which i shouldn't be
00:37 < joelazot> im retarded y'know
00:38 < Church-> Oh we know.
00:39 < joelazot> good
00:40 < m4221> Boo
00:41 < rpifan> r u a retarded 30 year old
00:42 < joelazot> no
00:42 < joelazot> 15
00:42 < rpifan> oh r u really a young one
00:43 < m4221> rpifan: is a sofaking we todd did 40 year old
00:43 < m4221> rpifan is*
00:44 < rpifan> i dont do 40 year old
00:45 < m4221> rpifan: this isn't aol, use whole words
00:46 < Hunterkll> IT IS DONE
00:46 < rpifan> this is aol
00:46 < rpifan> the deed is done
00:46 < Hunterkll> my passport is now en route to new york
00:46 < rpifan> did u bomb a country Hunterkll
00:47 < Hunterkll> where it will then be copied, applications electronically entered & support docs registered, and then GIVEN TO THE RUSSIANS
00:49 < joelazot> rpifan: didn't you know i've always been a young newfag
00:49 < rpifan> is that so
00:52 < joelazot> rpifan: indeed
01:10 < rpifan> what a product manager do
01:11 < sadbox> rpifan: manages ur products
01:11 < enix> rpifan: manages the product
01:11 < rpifan> whats that mean tho
01:11 < enix> But never more than one. That's a Products Manager
01:12 < enix> rpifan: in what context
01:12 < sadbox> rpifan: Often is a project manager that works long-term on a specific project, depends on the company tho
01:12 < enix> because that's a self-explanatory title
01:13 < rpifan> but do they program
01:13 < rpifan> or they just lazy fucks
01:13 < rpifan> that talk all day
01:15 < Casteil> I swear there's a god damn chipmunk respawn point in my yard somewhere
01:15 < rpifan> lol
01:15 < Stoob> well then you're spawn camping and the admin should ban u
01:16 < Casteil> I've kinda lost count now, but the tree line along my back yard is basically a chipmunk graveyard now
01:16 < rpifan> sigh
01:16 < rpifan> spawn camping
01:16 < rpifan> in what game
01:17 < Casteil> real life, apparently
01:17 < Casteil> I'm not spawn camping, I'm not even baiting them
01:17 < rpifan> whatss swpan camping
01:18 < Casteil> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spawn%20camping
01:18 <+layer-eight> * Casteil →  Urban Dictionary: spawn camping
01:18 < rpifan> yall
01:18 < rpifan> can i upload the scripts ive made at work to github if i rmeove idnetifyable info
01:22 <+MillerBOSS> `chuck
01:22 <+layer-eight> Chuck Norris: Chuck Norris has a mahogany fireplace in his shower
01:22 <+MillerBOSS> lol
01:22 <+MillerBOSS> But does he have a garbage disposal?
01:22 < rpifan> answers?
01:23 <+MillerBOSS> In the shower
01:28 < user-and-abuser> the hair never hits the drain
01:30 < rpifan> ?
01:30 < IronY> `seen rpifan
01:30 <+layer-eight> I need someone to look for IronY
01:30 < IronY> yeah dude
01:30 < IronY> no idea
01:31 < IronY> I tried to recreate it MillerBOSS, seems like it is unique
01:31 < rpifan> hmm
01:31 < rpifan> im here
01:31 < IronY> MillerBOSS: also, I switched the google short to firebase, not sure if ur using it, if so you will need to get a api key and enable dynamic linking, and whitelist *
01:31 < IronY> it will fall back to bitly or what ever if you do not
01:31 <+MillerBOSS> I was thinking of starting over IronY.
01:32 <+MillerBOSS> Maybe it has to do with the packages file I messed up
01:32 < IronY> possibly, i went as far has recreating ur trigger word and the whole thing
01:32 <+MillerBOSS> I am happy to give you shell access
01:33 < IronY> I woke up an hour ago, So I will be up for awhile lol
01:33 < IronY> did a lot of bug fixes last night
01:33 < Nightcinder> hmm
01:33 < Nightcinder> nano hd's are neat
01:33 < Nightcinder> i might move to deploying those
01:33 <+MillerBOSS> But if I start over I was hoping to keep the database that layer-eight has so it is not lost.
01:34 < IronY> you should be able to keep the db
01:34 <+MillerBOSS> Well maybe I should pull
01:34 < IronY> nothing changed in that for a long time
01:34 <+MillerBOSS> I mean keep the data if I blow away the current install.
01:34 < IronY> MillerBOSS: wait tell tomorrow
01:34 <+MillerBOSS> OK
01:34 < IronY> I am testing all the changes I made today
01:34 < IronY> ill push a new tagged release tonight
01:34 <+MillerBOSS> Thanks a lot IronY
01:35 < IronY> btw dude you should of told me it was in a channel of 596 people
01:35 <+MillerBOSS> I said a big channel
01:35 <+MillerBOSS> :P
01:35 < user-and-abuser> lul
01:35 < IronY> I have no problem catering to users, that is kinda the point, i want to know how people enjoying features, or ones they would like modified
01:35 <+MillerBOSS> Most are lurkers or bots
01:35 < user-and-abuser> and its being publicly recordded
01:35 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah I assumed so
01:35  * betrayed isnt
01:35 < IronY> user-and-abuser: every channel on this network is being recorded ;)
01:35 < user-and-abuser> exactly
01:35 < IronY> this is not elite0daynetwork
01:35 < IronY> this is freenode :D
01:36 < IronY> actually that is how i found u MillerBOSS
01:36 < user-and-abuser> bash.org
01:36 < user-and-abuser> :O
01:36 < IronY> I googled mrnodebot, and this channels log was in page 5
01:36 <+MillerBOSS> No shit?
01:36 < IronY> yeah it was a cool convo, u had just started the bot and someone was bitching about it being node, then looking at the source and conceding the featureset is fairly impressive lol
01:37 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah I recall that convo
01:37 < user-and-abuser> node.js?
01:37 < IronY> correct
01:37 < rpifan> BytesAndCoffee,
01:38 <+MillerBOSS> But layer-eight isn't producing those logs.
01:38 < IronY> no no
01:38 < IronY> someone else is
01:38 <+MillerBOSS> Right
01:38 < IronY> u pasted the github link
01:38 <+MillerBOSS> Someone spared out learning this channel is logged by staff
01:38 < IronY> that is what i found
01:38 <+MillerBOSS> Yup makes sense
01:38 <+MillerBOSS> s/spared/spazed
01:38 <+layer-eight> [SED MillerBOSS] Someone spazed out learning this channel is logged by staff
01:39 < IronY> they realize all of reddit is accessible via public json feeds right?
01:39 < IronY> i mean, this is a reddit admin channel, reddit is the most simply logged/scraped site their is
01:39 <+MillerBOSS> >But its IRC?
01:39 < user-and-abuser> ill have to google that later
01:39 < user-and-abuser> what about nsfw flags?
01:39 < IronY> go to any reddit site
01:39 < IronY> and change to url to .json
01:39 < IronY> sorry not change
01:39 < user-and-abuser> ok
01:39 < IronY> add
01:40 < user-and-abuser> ok
01:40 <+MillerBOSS> http://159.89.129.123:8084/ user:pass
01:40 < IronY> example
01:40 < IronY> https://www.reddit.com/r/ottawa/
01:40 <+layer-eight> * IronY →  Ottawa: Local news and discussion
01:40 < IronY> https://www.reddit.com/r/ottawa/.json
01:40 <+layer-eight> * IronY →  APPLICATION/JSON; CHARSET=UTF-8 Document, 74,714 bytes - ({"kind": "Listing", "data":...)
01:40 < IronY> I love reddit for that
01:41 <+MillerBOSS> Hey thats even better than "new" reddit :P
01:41 <+MillerBOSS> The view, that is
01:44 <+MillerBOSS> Per r/ottawa This cop is pretty funny troll'n https://twitter.com/gatienmc/status/1009099934178693120
01:44 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Sgt Mark Gatien on Twitter: "Getting a quick bite at a Firehouse Subs in the east end. Then doing laser enforcement blitz on 174 with the troops. I think I will drive the route first with my Waze App and put cops at 5-6 various locations. 😂😂 @TheBearde...
01:45 < rpifan> dannnggg
01:45 < rpifan> im glad ppl are calling him out
01:45 <+MillerBOSS> I'm pretty sure he is troll'n rpifan
01:46 < rpifan> i doubt it
01:46 < rpifan> cops are dirty
01:46 <+MillerBOSS> Few are most are not.
01:46 < rpifan> ACAB
01:46 < rpifan> just learnt that
01:49 <+MillerBOSS> And see https://old.reddit.com/r/ottawa/comments/8s9yme/ottawa_police_flag_themselves_in_waze/e0ybseb/ rpifan
01:49 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Mr_Pigeon comments on Ottawa Police flag themselves in Waze
01:49 < kepler> MillerBOSS: no all cops are dirty until you need them, then that one is on the good list
01:49 < kepler> only become good once they helped you
01:49 <+MillerBOSS> Unless you are running from the law
01:49 < kepler> nah, the nerve of police for enforcing laws. they are bad and against the public
01:49 <+MillerBOSS> Or live in a community that doesn't have the best force.
01:50 < kepler> two cops came to my house and said someone called and said they found an ID and needed them to pick it up. i thought it was weird, i let them in cause it was raining
01:50 < kepler> told them i have no idea what they're talking about
01:51 < kepler> i think they came beacuse i use like 400% more electricity than neighbors
01:51 < kepler> and thought i was growing drug plants
01:51 < rpifan> instead u were mining ilegal cops
01:51 < rpifan> to buy drugs
01:51 < kepler> i bet they were trying to sell me weed water
01:55 < anickname> hey I'm making this SaaS
01:55 < anickname> and I'm trying to ballpark what kind of dedicated server I'd need to handle this project
01:55 < anickname> I'm planning on having 10K concurrent users
01:55 < anickname> the server backend is NodeJS and MongoDB will be the database
01:55 < anickname> and the database is going to store about 10 million documents, maybe more
01:56 < kepler> somewhere between 6 and graham's number
01:56 < anickname> it's basically just writing and reading from the database; a bunch of users are uploading JSON objects to the db to be stored, and they're all reading different objects that have been posted to that database
01:57 < anickname> what's graham's number kepler
01:57 < kepler> oh man
01:57 <@JollyRgrs> anickname: tbh, i have nfc, but the more iops you have, the faster it will go... and more RAM, too
01:57 <@JollyRgrs> might want some extra CPU powah
01:57 < kepler> couldn't type it if i wanted to
01:57 < anickname> I just looked it up kepler
01:57 < kepler> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N6cOC2P8fQ
01:57 <+layer-eight> * kepler →  YouTube → Day[9] Story Time #4 - Graham's Number → ⚘ 293,497 ↑ 6,239 ↓ 87 ✍ 1,144
01:58 < kepler> anickname: that video good for it
01:58 < anickname> what's NFC?
01:58 < anickname> basically what it's doing is pushing and pulling from the database
01:58 <@JollyRgrs> no fricken clue
01:58 < kepler> anickname: you doing this in aws or something, or on prem?
01:58 < anickname> I think the closest analogy I can make is like a wikipedia kind of deal? but it's not a wiki
01:58 < anickname> I'm planning on doing this on an OVH dedi
01:58 < anickname> AWS is way too expensive for me
01:59 < anickname> I'm just trying to figure out how many GB of RAM I'd need, how many TBs of storage I need, and what kind of CPU I'd need
01:59 < kepler> well, lots of disk I/O and RAM prob for db
01:59 <@JollyRgrs> well, you know how big these json objects will be and how many you expect
02:00 <@JollyRgrs> so as far as size of storage, you can factor that in
02:00 < anickname> I don't really know how big they'll be?
02:00 <@JollyRgrs> storage ain't cheap, db's like fast storage
02:00 < anickname> some of them might have like 100 key value pairs?
02:00 <@JollyRgrs> so price/performance is hand in hand
02:00 < anickname> Okay
02:00 < anickname> Should I go with an SSD?
02:00 < anickname> over an HDD
02:00 < kepler> i say always ssd
02:01 < anickname> for MongoDB is it that much of a performance difference?
02:01 < kepler> i guess depends on throughput needed, hard to say. are those 10k concurrent users all writing at the same time?
02:01 < anickname> like if I were to go with an SSD I'd be getting a TB vs 6TB
02:02 < anickname> I very much doubt it, but I like to plan ahead, so I'll just say yes
02:02 < anickname> I bet about 1k concurrent writes will be the max I'll ever get tbh
02:02 < anickname> I can say there will be 10k concurrent reads
02:02 < kepler> how much space you think you need? you can get good performance from big spinning disk raids
02:02 < kepler> also how much data will be access that isn't cached in RAM or something?
02:03 < kepler> like, reddit old posts prob aren't in memory, whereas top new or trending would be
02:03 < anickname> I don't think I'm caching anything, it's just HTTP Post / Get requests via Mongo
02:03 < anickname> in regards to space I'll have to go see
02:04 < kepler> mongo may cache tho
02:04 < anickname> hmm they might
02:04 < anickname> I think they do
02:05 < kepler> wonder if s3/lambda/dynamodb woud do what you need, without having to get a big honking ec2 instance
02:06 < kepler> if each query is just a db read or write
02:06 < anickname> those are too expensive for me :P
02:07 < kepler> well, if you're looking at $10k worth of hardware, it be worth it
02:08 < anickname> 10,000 dollars?
02:08 < anickname> what
02:09 < kepler> what is your budget for this?
02:09 < anickname> you're probably going to laugh at me
02:09 < anickname> like 200 bucks a month max lol
02:10 < kepler> that prob is fine
02:11 < anickname> ok
02:11 < anickname> I'm aiming for more 100 / month tho
02:12 < kepler> this a new project, or do you have metrics from previous iteration of this software running?
02:12 < anickname> new project
02:12 < anickname> I have no idea how well it will do
02:13 < anickname> like zero clue :P
02:13 < anickname> I think it'll do fairly well
02:13 < anickname> so I'm planning on like "max capacity"
02:13 < kepler> can you do a small scale and move up as needed?
02:13 < anickname> I mean
02:13 < anickname> kind of?
02:14 < anickname> Except I'll be going away for a few weeks
02:14 < anickname> and I won't be able to scale it really
02:14 < anickname> if it needs to
02:14 < kepler> like start with https://www.ovh.com/world/dedicated-servers/bestvalue/1801bv01.xml
02:14 < anickname> so I'm just planning as far ahead as  Ican
02:14 <+layer-eight> * kepler →  Dedicated servers - BV-32 - bestvalue
02:14 < kepler> maybe increase storage
02:14 < anickname> hm ok
02:15 < anickname> like how much of a speed difference would an SSD make in regards to these things?
02:15 < anickname> like
02:15 < anickname> 50%?
02:15 < genr8_> yes
02:15 < anickname> more than 50%?
02:15 < genr8_> maybe more
02:15 < estranger> No u r
02:15 < anickname> hm
02:15 < anickname> maybe I should go with the SSD
02:15 < anickname> because I don't foresee the database using like a terabyte of storage
02:16 < kepler> depends. single spinning disk not in raid like ~350mbps read/200 write, nvme ssd can be 3500mbps read/2500 write
02:16 < anickname> that's like
02:16 < anickname> 10 times faster
02:16 < anickname> lol
02:16 < estranger> What's your SLA
02:16 < kepler> *can be*
02:16 < anickname> what's an SLA lol
02:16 < estranger> Either choice can be ok depending on your requirements
02:17 < anickname> like my hosting company?
02:17 < kepler> when you start getting 8 disks in raid @ 7200 rpm, you'll hit past gigabit
02:17 < estranger> Service level agreement.. How fast do your queries need to be
02:17 < kepler> raid 5 or 6
02:17 < estranger> Latency etc
02:17 < anickname> I mean
02:17 < anickname> I'd like them to be performed in like
02:17 < anickname> less than 3 seconds
02:17 < kepler> estranger: i dont think he has any
02:17 < anickname> maybe 5 seconds
02:17 < anickname> it doesn't have to be an immediate response time or anything
02:18 < estranger> Spinning is prob fine, you'll get killed with crazy joins though
02:18 < anickname> crazy joins?
02:18 < anickname> like SQL joins?
02:18 < estranger> If you can afford it get SSD though :)
02:19 < estranger> You'll have to do a lot less tuning
02:20 < anickname> hm ok
02:20 < kepler> https://www.ovh.com/world/dedicated-servers/enterprise/1801sp02.xml
02:20 < anickname> what about RAM and CPU?
02:20 <+layer-eight> * kepler →  Dedicated servers - SP-32 - enterprise
02:20 < kepler> that'd prob do it for you
02:20 < anickname> would 32GB of RAM / 8 threads be good
02:20 < kepler> probably, but you can always go up
02:20 < kepler> you load balancing at all?
02:20 < anickname> oh neat I was looking at the same thing
02:20 < anickname> no I'm not
02:21 < anickname> I don't really know about any of those things sorry :P
02:21 < anickname> ok so really quick question
02:21 < anickname> Idk if any of you guys have used OVH before but what's the difference between infrastructure / enterprise / hosting
02:21 < anickname> enterprise seems to be the cheapest tbh
02:22 < kepler> no idea, but generally support levels. you might be on your own for one
02:22 < anickname> ok that's fine lol
02:24 < kepler> you can ask them, a sales guy will tell you the perfect answer!
02:29 < kepler> anickname: https://blog.sicara.com/deploy-serverless-lambda-s3-api-aws-2cf99b8f34ae
02:30 < kepler> that kinda seems like what you're looking for, and you'll only pay for storage, and then cpu while a query/lambda function is running
02:30 <+MillerBOSS> How about a serverless serverless server?
02:30 < kepler> i heard you liked serverless so i serverlessed your serverless server
02:31 <+MillerBOSS> Perfecto!
02:31 < kepler> im going to write a lambda function that deletes lamda functions that create servers
02:32 < kepler> actually prob could write one that finds any ec2 deployment code and delete that function
02:32 < anickname> kepler I called them and enterprise is the best
02:32 < kepler> anickname: lol, why cheapest?
02:32 < anickname> yea
02:32 < anickname> the other ones have vRack
02:33 < anickname> and I don't have a need for that
02:33 < kepler> i dunno what that even means
02:33 < anickname> it's private networking
02:33 < anickname> idk lol
02:33 < kepler> oooo
02:33 < kepler> anyone know anyone at MIT who has anything to do with selling IP space?
02:48 < misspwn_> i don't know anyone at MIT period :(
02:50 < DLSteve> I know of MIT.
02:51 < aName> There's a need in my hobby community to develop a platform for auctions and live sales. And I really, really don't want to do it.
02:51 < aName> But everyone is trying to shoehorn it into facebook
02:51 < aName> Or various forums
02:51 < aName> And it's just awful
02:51 < DLSteve> shoehorn it into eBay or etsy.
02:51 < kepler> cmu only has a couple /16s, should have gotten a /8 when they had the chance
02:52 < kepler> dont think they're looking at v6 yet
02:52 < aName> DLSteve: Their respective rules make it difficult - we're trading in CITES-protected live animals.
02:52 < kepler> else i'd try to get some from them
02:52 < aName> DLSteve: It's all above board, of course, but the big names don't like to touch it
02:52 < aName> DLSteve: I found out a guy I bought coral from hadn't been ignoring me, he'd been banned from facebook again
02:53 < aName> Everyone was just like 'where the fuck did Chuck get off to? This isn't like him'
02:53 < DLSteve> aName, I see, problem with that is that I see a lot of liability for whoever runs the site. hence why the big sites won't touch it.
02:54 < aName> DLSteve: Naw, most of them just don't want the press from ZOMG THEY'RE SELLING PUPPIES AND HUMAN ORGANS
02:54 < DLSteve> Forums/craigs list seem to be popular for aquarium stuff it seems.
02:54 < aName> There's no liability concerns I'm aware of
02:54 < aName> I think a lot of it is about barrier to entry
02:55 < aName> You can grow coral or breed fish and have no clue how to set up an ecommerce site
02:55 < aName> But a forum post is easy
02:55 < DLSteve> hmm, now that you brought it up I see a market for something like originswap.com
02:55 < aName> But I think I could do OK if I just charged a modest flat rate per listing
02:56 < aName> Don't need to turn a big profit, just like, thirty cents a listing to keep the lights on
02:57 < aName> people spend more on the ceramic mounting plug the coral comes on
02:58 < aName> It's mostly just a case of 'ugh, I'm the guy who knows how, aren't I?'
02:58 < aName> originswap.com doesn't resolve for me
02:58 < DLSteve> Site server/dev overhead is not the real cost, it's the support. When you charge a fee people feel entitled for all kinds of crap.
02:59 < DLSteve> aName, it's a joke
02:59 < aName> DLSteve: And I will happily refund their money and cancel their account. Fuck 'em lol
02:59 < DLSteve> Still time out of your day to do that.
02:59 < aName> Naw, just script it
03:00 < DLSteve> Or if the seller never shipped they come calling you, etc...
03:00 < aName> lol how is that my problem
03:00 < aName> And I'll tell them that
03:01 < aName> Do people sue the yellow pages when AAAAAA Best repairs turns out to not be so good?
03:01 < DLSteve> Thats the thing though, there is still a lot of overhead in emailing back and forth telling them that.
03:01 < DLSteve> I'm sure some people do try.
03:02 < DLSteve> When I worked at a gas station a lady tried to sue us saying we put diesel in her car, we never sold diesel nor did we pump gas.
03:02 < aName> I wonder if I could farm it out to MTurk lol
03:03 < aName> ... nor does the nozzle fit
03:04 < DLSteve> Yah she was a special nut case.
03:04 < aName> I wonder if her attorney was like 'I'm so sorry, but her checks clear'
03:04 < DLSteve> Then again a Fortune 500 is going to be a way bigger target for that kind of crap than a specialty shop.
03:04 < aName> Yeah, it's a niche within a niche
03:05 < aName> And people get called out on being shitheads pretty quickly
03:05 < aName> Reputation means a lot
03:05 < aName> A 'Bob's Acropora' is worth a whole lot less than a Tyree Acropora or a Jason Fox Acropora lol
03:06 < aName> There is still drama, though
03:07 < aName> But most claims are too small to be worth taking to court
03:07 < aName> The most I've ever seen a single coral go for was a thousand dollars, so like... not even worth hiring a lawyer
03:10 <+SpeakerToMeat> Id' say talk to me, but that will end badly
03:25 < BytesAndCoffee> rpifan: yes?
03:49 < corn266> So I've been pressing the own er of the company I work at to make "locking your computer when you walk away" a company policy, but he's kinda waffling on it saying he trusts his employees
03:50 < corn266> One of my coworkers leaves for the day and just walks away from his unlocked computer
03:50 < corn266> what do
03:50 < sadbox> corn266: you just need to foster a strong internal trolling culture
03:50 <@JollyRgrs> ^^
03:50 <@JollyRgrs> send email frmo outlook "$5 footlongs on me, send me orders pls"
03:50 <@JollyRgrs> delete sent item
03:50 < sadbox> If you leave your computer unlocked at my company somebody will post about how much you love justin bieber
03:51 < MadCamel> easy. get a usb rubber ducky and set it up to change their desktop background to dickbutt. any time a pc's left unlocked, even for a second, plug that bad by in
03:51 < sadbox> chance your profile photo, etc
03:51 < MadCamel> bad boy*
03:51 < sadbox> change**
03:51 < MadCamel> but yeah. troll
03:51 < corn266> unfortunately I work with some scientiests and "professional" coworkers
03:52 < sadbox> corn266: we're a fortune 500 company
03:52 < corn266> s/scientiests/scientists
03:52 <+layer-eight> [SED corn266] unfortunately I work with some scientists and "professional" coworkers
03:52 < corn266> we're so small i don't even know what a fortune 500 company is
03:53 < sadbox> s/500/100
03:53 <+layer-eight> [SED sadbox/corn266] we're so small i don't even know what a fortune 100 company is
03:53 < sadbox> whoops
03:53 < sadbox> we are actually fortune 100 now
03:53 < sadbox> wooooooo, us
03:53 < corn266> dayum, I'm sure you saw a cut of that pie
03:54 < Casteil> wtf.. "We base our weekly maintenance window on the point that traffic on our network is at its lowest, and that is Wednesdays from approximately 6p-3a pacific"
03:54 < Casteil> 6pm pacific is your lowest fucking network use time?!
03:55 < corn266> sounds like you work for a christian company
03:55 < corn266> everyone is at church
03:56 < Casteil> fuck it. I'm 'asleep'
03:56 < Casteil> fuck this sales guy texting me at 10pm
03:57 < corn266> "wanna go bowling?"
03:57 < enix> corn266: so they can go knock some pins together ;)
03:59 < MadCamel> wait.. dude's trying to sell you by texting you at 10pm?
03:59 < MadCamel> sexy picture time
04:03 < enix> :D
04:07 < Casteil> MadCamel: no, one of our staffers is trying to process deposits at 10pm lol
04:08 < MadCamel> sounds... well, sounds dirty anyway
04:08 < corn266> he's trying to invoice his trip to the strip club
04:20 <+MillerBOSS> Hold up
04:21 <+MillerBOSS> waiiiiiiit
04:22 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZOrd4jllPw
04:22 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  YouTube → The Next Episode (Uncensored) → ⚘ 672,383 ↑ 5,498 ↓ 227 ✍ 253
04:23 < xe0n> ladada
04:24 < user-and-abuser> Hold uP
04:24 < user-and-abuser> La-da-da-da-dahh
04:24 < user-and-abuser> It's the motherfuckin D-O-double-G
04:25 <+MillerBOSS> I didn't know there was a video for this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI6N5GBoevI
04:25 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  YouTube → Snoop Dogg - Doggy Dogg World ft. Tha Dogg Pound, The Dramatics, Nanci Fletcher → ⚘ 917,911 ↑ 9,582 ↓ 399 ✍ 426
04:27 <+MillerBOSS> I hope we can get some more snoop in Trailer Park Boys
04:27 < Casteil> https://slickdeals.net/f/11715855-6-color-pack-theefun-tsf-10ft-el-wire-portable-neon-lights-diy-decoration-6-99-fsss
04:27 < Casteil> nice
04:27 <+layer-eight> * Casteil →  6-Color Pack Theefun TSF 10Ft EL Wire Portable Neon Lights (DIY Decoration) $6.99 + FSSS       -   Slickdeals.net
04:27 < Casteil> time to make some shit RAD
04:30 <+MillerBOSS> Sure, YouTube, I will click https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp5wID1FWOk
04:30 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  YouTube → Warren G ft. Nate Dogg & Michael Mcdonald - Regulate (Jammin Remix) (DJ EkSeL Edit) → ⚘ 1,141,016 ↑ 12,489 ↓ 287 ✍ 810
04:30 <+MillerBOSS> >& Michael Mcdonald
04:31 < Casteil> https://youtu.be/tw429JGL5zo?t=10
04:32 <+layer-eight> * Casteil →  ⚓  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw429JGL5zo&feature=youtu.be&t=10 → YouTube → Ludacris - Move B***H ft. Mystikal, I-20 → ⚘ 22,608,999 ↑ 241,517 ↓ 10,357 ✍ 9,185
04:32 < Casteil> wtf
04:32 < Casteil> censored
04:32 < Casteil> UNACCEPTABRU
04:32 <+MillerBOSS> Get out the way
04:32 < Hunterkll> MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
04:32 < Hunterkll> JAPANESE MUSIC
04:32 < Hunterkll> JAPANESE CHEMICALS
04:32 < Hunterkll> SLUTTY GIRL NEGATIVES DEVELOPING
04:32 < Casteil> when the fuck did that get censored?
04:32 <+MillerBOSS> Are you in Russia yet?
04:32 < Hunterkll> it's like a neckbeard basement lab except i'm not a neckbeard and the girls willingly let me take their pictures
04:32 < Hunterkll> just got my precision water bath dialed in to the right temps
04:33 < Hunterkll> MillerBOSS, overnight fedex'd my passport + docs to new york earlier today
04:33 <+MillerBOSS> Melody
04:33 < Hunterkll> agency is gonna handle it from there
04:33 <+MillerBOSS> G Funk
04:33 <@Nostalg14c> Morning.
04:33 < Hunterkll> Nostalg14c, i mailed my passport to the russians
04:33 <@Nostalg14c> What for?
04:33 < Hunterkll> to get a visa, duh
04:33 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah
04:33 <+MillerBOSS> They already have ut
04:33 <@Nostalg14c> Ah for real.
04:33 <+MillerBOSS> it*
04:33 <@Nostalg14c> They're still in the stoneage aye.
04:33 < Casteil> MillerBOSS:  here we go. https://youtu.be/cEuU64Zt4B0?t=10
04:34 <+layer-eight> * Casteil →  ⚓  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEuU64Zt4B0&feature=youtu.be&t=10 → YouTube → Ludacris - Move Bitch Get Out Da Way (HQ) → ⚘ 19,776,598 ↑ 203,661 ↓ 5,434 ✍ 14,961
04:34 < Hunterkll> Nostalg14c, lotsa countries require that
04:34 < Casteil> less pussified version
04:34 < Hunterkll> consulate glues the visa in your passport for you
04:34 < Hunterkll> you can actually have trouble if the glue job is shoddy
04:34 <@Nostalg14c> Ye? None i've been, I guess i dont go to poverty countries other htan thailand/indonesia
04:34 < Hunterkll> Nostalg14c, i'd have to for a slew of countries
04:34 <@Nostalg14c> Actually I did take a bus around europe.
04:34 < Hunterkll> China for more than 72 hours in more than the 3 zones and non-transit
04:35 < Hunterkll> yea EU countries are okay
04:35 < Hunterkll> once out of the EU though it gets dicey
04:35 < Hunterkll> the one country i've been dying to go to
04:35 < Hunterkll> is THE ONLY FUCKING COUNTRY IN THE WORLD MY US PASSPORT IS NO LONGER FUCKING VALID TO GO IN OR OUT OF
04:35 < Hunterkll> THANK YOU MOTHERFUCKING REX TILLERSON
04:35 < Hunterkll> FUCK OFF AND DIE
04:35 <@Nostalg14c> aye where that.
04:35 < Hunterkll> it's my fucking business if i want to go visit kim's gulags
04:35 < Hunterkll> North Korea
04:35 <@Nostalg14c> oh nk lol
04:35 < Hunterkll> US Passports are invalid for travel to or from NK since ... september of last year i think
04:36 <@Nostalg14c> They might re-allow it now that shits gettin weird.
04:36 <@Nostalg14c> Also they need to make money somehow..
04:36 < Hunterkll> https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/International-Travel-Country-Information-Pages/KoreaDemocraticPeoplesRepublicof.html
04:36 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  North Korea (Democratic People's Republic of Korea)
04:38 <+MillerBOSS> I'd rather have the video Casteil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iOpUdsMeqM
04:38 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  YouTube → Ludacris - Move Bitch Get Out Da Way! (Dirty) (Official Video) HQ → ⚘ 8,926,566 ↑ 59,768 ↓ 1,519 ✍ 4,986
04:38 <+MillerBOSS> OH NO
04:38 < Casteil> same
04:39 < Casteil> but they censored the original
04:39 < Casteil> it definitely hasn't always been censored
04:39 <+MillerBOSS> Also 240p just like I remembered it
04:39 <+MillerBOSS> ;)
04:39 < Casteil> lol
04:43 < Church-> Hunterkll: Hey if you die in NK. Can I have your hololens?
04:43 < Hunterkll> i'm not going
04:43 < Hunterkll> i can't
04:43 < Hunterkll> :'(
04:43 < Hunterkll> i have to get citizenship somewhere else first
04:43 < Hunterkll> :o
04:44 < Casteil> so a buddy of mine is a hot sauce aficionado
04:44 < Casteil> I tried Da Bomb the other day
04:44 < Hunterkll> i'll mail him six reaper pods if he eats them all at once
04:44 < Casteil> https://www.amazon.com/DaBomb-Final-Answer-2-Ounce-Bottle/dp/B001BIXK7K < < < why would anyone make this shit
04:44 < Casteil> there's no taste to it, it's just pure extract of HAAAATE
04:44 < Hunterkll> .... 1.5 mil?
04:44 < Hunterkll> that's weak
04:45 < Hunterkll> Casteil, the bad taste is probably from actually using extract though
04:45 < Hunterkll> but i grow 1.5mil peppers at home
04:45 < Casteil> yeah, it's basically just extract
04:45 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYD3gLCXXuU
04:45 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  YouTube → Warren G ft. Nate Dogg | Regulate | Sesame Street Version → ⚘ 4,201,064 ↑ 43,625 ↓ 802 ✍ 1,404
04:45 < Hunterkll> sounds like a good additive to my sauces
04:45 < Casteil> there's no goodness to it
04:45 < Hunterkll> Casteil, I made an evil sauce, and it's not that hot
04:45 < Hunterkll> Carolina Reapers.... prepared tabasco sauce style >:3
04:46 < Casteil> "weak" my ass
04:46 < Casteil> you can't eat it without reacting poorly.
04:46 < Hunterkll> tabasco sauce style (basically, a mash with vinegar and salt) isn't really much of a modifier
04:46 < Hunterkll> it just fucks with ya cuz of the vinegar
04:46 < Hunterkll> nah
04:46 < Hunterkll> then again i use ghost chili flakes on pizza so
04:46 < Hunterkll> meh
04:47 < Hunterkll> Casteil, me and A-KO went to pepper palace once and tried literally all of the hot sauces they had on display. guy was like "noramlly we do a waiver for this thing but just try it"
04:47 < Hunterkll> it was called flashbang
04:47 < Hunterkll> 4mil scoville rating
04:47 < Casteil> I'd been on a Hot Ones episode kick lately
04:47 < Hunterkll> i was commenting on the nice taste
04:47 < Hunterkll> A-KO was like WTF ICE CREAM NOW
04:47 < Hunterkll> and im' like slow down im buyin this
04:47 < Casteil> so I was curious about the sauces and my buddy has a lot of them
04:47 < Hunterkll> so we go to duclaws
04:47 < Hunterkll> he's got a big bowl of ice cream
04:47 < Casteil> so I tried a couple of the Hot Ones sauces most people say are good
04:47 < Casteil> (they were)
04:47 < Hunterkll> i've got fries, mixing 4mil scoville hot sauce into my ketchup like it's nothing
04:47 < corn266> Hunterkll that's fuckin great
04:47 < Casteil> then I tried da bomb
04:47 < Hunterkll> but even so, he could still taste the different peppers in flashbang
04:48 < Hunterkll> he's just stairing at me like
04:48 < Hunterkll> "how the fuck are you doing this"
04:48 < Hunterkll> and i'm just like "want some fire ketchup?"
04:48 < Hunterkll> corn266, https://i.imgur.com/zKnxDmo.jpg
04:48 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 1,044,696 bytes
04:48 < Hunterkll> :>
04:48 < Hunterkll> fresh from the garden bout to get SAUCY
04:48 < Casteil> pass
04:48 < Casteil> hard pass
04:48 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/ebzW8ii.jpg
04:48 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 916,073 bytes
04:48 < Hunterkll> mmmm
04:48 < Hunterkll> simmering death
04:48 < corn266> what habaneros?
04:49 < Hunterkll> corn266, carolina reapers
04:49 < corn266> either way you removed the seeds
04:49 < Casteil> best clean that cutting board like someone shit on it
04:49 < Casteil> better yet just throw it away
04:49 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/ursZeUJ.jpg <-- made about 8 oz or so
04:49 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 1,050,417 bytes
04:49 < corn266> $5 to butt chug it
04:49 < Hunterkll> corn266, yes, well, how do you think i grew this year's? and the reapers aren't seed hot, and seeds suck for hot sauce anyway
04:49 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/V0ZPPWG.jpg
04:49 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 1,902,913 bytes
04:49 < Hunterkll> this was the jalapaneo sauces i made
04:49 < Casteil> Hunterkll: lol nice
04:50 < corn266> nice
04:50 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/InCziW7.jpg
04:50 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 225,151 bytes
04:50 < Hunterkll> these are the reapers i dried
04:50 < Hunterkll> i have two grinders full of reapers for pizza
04:50 < Casteil> for once a legit hot sauce guy
04:50 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/pQesvCD.jpg
04:50 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 487,160 bytes
04:50 < Hunterkll> this is what death hot sauce looks like
04:50 < Hunterkll> Casteil, i met a pepperhead at CCP fanfest in iceland
04:50 < corn266> lol remind me not to get invited to your place for pizza or mexican
04:50 < Hunterkll> she gave me a jar of PICKLED reapers
04:50 < Casteil> not just a "HAHA YEAH I CAN EAT ANY HOT PEPPER WITHOUT READING" internet tough guy
04:50 < Casteil> Hunterkll: heh
04:50 < Hunterkll> i was kind of looking down on her because she was a religious acolyte
04:50 < Hunterkll> but
04:51 < Hunterkll> then i spoke the holy words
04:51 < Hunterkll> and she opened the max amarria
04:51 < Hunterkll> and i received the truth
04:51 < Hunterkll> the truth was a 1L flask of jack
04:51 < corn266> "join the reaper"
04:51 < Hunterkll> I WAS CONVERTED
04:51 < Casteil> I used to be ISD hehe
04:51 < Hunterkll> Casteil, she was like "oh, you have tabasco sauce, you like hot stuff?"
04:51 < Casteil> long long time ago
04:51 < Hunterkll> and i'm like "sure"
04:51 < Hunterkll> Casteil, she was part of the space pope's entourage
04:51 < Hunterkll> :D
04:52 < Casteil> so long ago that I don't really remember names
04:52 < Hunterkll> Max Singularity?
04:52 < Casteil> and so long ago that it probably predates a lot of current CCP staff lol
04:52 < enix> space...pope?
04:52 < Hunterkll> enix, i'm the wizard of eve now, apparently, so
04:52 < corn266> Casteil you were an entire independent school district?
04:52 < Hunterkll> i'm probably next for in game items soon
04:52 < Hunterkll> i may have brouhgt wizard hats in fashion...
04:52 < Hunterkll> Casteil, but yea, anyway, so so
04:52 < Hunterkll> Casteil, she was like "oh, you have tabasco sauce, you like hot stuff?"
04:52 < Hunterkll> and i'm like "oh sure"
04:52 < enix> s/hats/sleeve
04:52 < AustinS_> hi bbs
04:52 <+layer-eight> [SED enix/Hunterkll] i may have brouhgt wizard sleeve in fashion...
04:52 < Hunterkll> eating my sandiwch
04:52 < Hunterkll> and she's like
04:52 < Hunterkll> "here, waft your hand over this and smell it"
04:52 < Hunterkll> and i'm like
04:52 < Hunterkll> NO
04:53 < Hunterkll> I KNOW THAT SMELL
04:53 < Hunterkll> GIVE ME
04:53 < corn266> it's poo
04:53 < Casteil> Hunterkll: bughunter back in like 2004-2006
04:53 < Hunterkll> and she's like this is super hot - *points at other religious acolyte* (amarr are funny creatures) she took an hour to recover
04:53 < Hunterkll> and i'm like
04:53 < Hunterkll> no
04:53 < Hunterkll> I KNOW THAT SMELL
04:53 < Hunterkll> put. it. on. my. sandwich.
04:53 < Hunterkll> don't. stop.
04:53 < Hunterkll> *munch*
04:53 < Hunterkll> goddamn i was right this is fucking delicious
04:53 < Hunterkll> after i said that i think she wanted to propose to me
04:54 < Hunterkll> Casteil, i may have banged a senior GM while I was there >_>
04:54 < Hunterkll> unrelated to all of that
04:55 < Casteil> I would've liked to have gone to ccp fest but it was expensive to fly internationally for someone of my age then :P
04:55 < Casteil> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepper_X < lol
04:55 <+layer-eight> * Casteil →  Pepper X - Wikipedia
04:55 < Hunterkll> yea
04:55 < Hunterkll> all rumors until i getg my hands on plants
04:55 < Hunterkll> Casteil, yea she gave me this
04:55 < Hunterkll> it is amazeballs
04:55 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/silgEpg.jpg
04:55 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 898,931 bytes
04:56 < Casteil> frankly after a certain point they're all just hatred
04:56 < Hunterkll> Casteil, and i maaaay have snapped a picture of this in my hotel room ... https://i.imgur.com/wXspF7n.png
04:56 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 521,997 bytes
04:56 < Casteil> imo that point is around 100,000 scoville :P
04:56 < Hunterkll> that's not a staffer's convention lanyard and shirt at all
04:56 < Hunterkll> nope
04:56 < Hunterkll> nosirree
04:56 < Hunterkll> (yes it is)
04:56 < Hunterkll> lol
04:56 < Hunterkll> i showed it to a group in the airport and someone pointed at me and said "YOU GOT LUCKY LAST NIGHT HAHAHA"
04:57 < Hunterkll> in keflavik airport, that is
04:57 < Hunterkll> oh fun times
04:57 < Hunterkll> i hope russia approves my visa
04:57 < Hunterkll> i need crazy moscow stories now
04:57 < DrGibby|> I hope they do too, and then that rape you in prison
04:57 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/8xW3ejk.png <--- maybe go russian fishing
04:57 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 550,577 bytes
04:58 < Casteil> buddy of mine just spent a few days in iceland
04:58 < Hunterkll> DrGibby|, but i'd enjoy that
04:58 < DrGibby|> :3
04:58 < Hunterkll> Casteil, i'm trying to drag a-ko there for new years
04:58 < Hunterkll> it's supposed to be a party that doesn't drop until like 7 am and fireworks all over the city and shit
04:58 < Hunterkll> i'll pay for the flights to iceland lmao
04:58 < Hunterkll> so cheap
04:58 < Hunterkll> but moscow was like a $2000 ticket
04:58 < Hunterkll> for august
04:58 < Hunterkll> but i used rewards miles instead
04:58 < Hunterkll> because i was drunk watching red sparrow
04:58 < Hunterkll> >_>
04:59  * MillerBOSS slaps DrGibby| around a bit with a large trout
04:59  * DrGibby| farts on MillerBOSS 
04:59 <+MillerBOSS> Bout fucking time
04:59  * Hunterkll slaps MillerBOSS around a bit with cryptic1's smol pen0r
04:59 < Hunterkll> it's not very effective...
05:00 <+MillerBOSS> I knew you'd miss us DrGibby|
05:00 < DrGibby|> Nah, just hopping in for a min
05:00 <+MillerBOSS> pfft
05:00 < Hunterkll> augh
05:00 < Hunterkll> fucking B&H doesn't ship C-41 chemicals?
05:00 < Hunterkll> fuckers
05:01 <+MillerBOSS> cryptic1 👉
05:01 <+MillerBOSS> DrGibby| needs an adult
05:01 < DrGibby|> Nah
05:01 <+MillerBOSS> Shh you
05:01 < Hunterkll> cryptic1 is a giant manbabby who pisses in fridge
05:02 < DrGibby|> Also, hi cryptic1. Hope you're awesome ♥️
05:02 <+MillerBOSS> I didn't know you ran a Mac AustinS
05:02 <+MillerBOSS> And AustinS_
05:02 < Hunterkll> all enlightened heterosexuals do
05:02 < Hunterkll> sadly
05:02 < Hunterkll> i'm a degenerate homosexual windows user
05:02 < DrGibby|> we know
05:03 < DrGibby|> stop reminding us
05:03 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llyiQ4I-mcQ
05:03 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  YouTube → Vengaboys - Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom!! → ⚘ 96,012,619 ↑ 332,412 ↓ 18,243 ✍ 19,657
05:03 < Hunterkll> DrGibby|, aw come on, not even gonna jump on the 'too gay for a mac huh?' jokes or something
05:03 < Hunterkll> jeeze
05:03 < DrGibby|> no
05:03 < DrGibby|> we all know you're a furry
05:03 < Hunterkll> wat
05:03 < DrGibby|> we all know you're a furry
05:04 < DrGibby|> WE ALL KNOW YOU ARE A FURRY!
05:04 < Hunterkll> no, dude, your'e looking in the mirror again
05:04 < DrGibby|> rather
05:04 < DrGibby|> neg
05:04 < Hunterkll> i know it's a self help thing to keep chanting
05:04 < Hunterkll> but still
05:04 < DrGibby|> listen, you're the one going to furrycons
05:04 < DrGibby|> not me
05:04 < Hunterkll> i've never been to a furry con
05:04 < DrGibby|> my last con was DEFCON
05:04 <+MillerBOSS> And Russia next, DrGibby|
05:04 < Hunterkll> russia is after defcon MillerBOSS
05:04 <+MillerBOSS> Oh my bad
05:04 < Hunterkll> DrGibby|, my this year's travel plans aaren't shady at all
05:05 < Hunterkll> DEFCON -> WASHINGTON DC -> MOSCOW
05:05 < DrGibby|> eh
05:05 < DrGibby|> mine are... interesting as well at this point
05:05 < Hunterkll> briefly stopping at home between defcon and moscow before heading back to DC
05:05 < Hunterkll> just to wash clothes
05:05 < Hunterkll> lol
05:05 < DrGibby|> less con, more stuff
05:05 < Hunterkll> honestly i got the plane tickets to moscow because i was drunk
05:05 < Hunterkll> now i'm just hoping my visa gets approved LOL
05:05 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaTGrV58wec
05:05 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  YouTube → C+C Music Factory - Gonna Make You Sweat (Everybody Dance Now) ft. Freedom Williams → ⚘ 29,814,054 ↑ 128,249 ↓ 4,548 ✍ 4,310 → * Content Restrictions
05:05 < Hunterkll> they just luckily ended up with me leaving the night of the 13th - the day after i leave vegas
05:06 <+MillerBOSS> YEAH!
05:06 < AustinS_> MillerBOSS yeah :p
05:06 <+MillerBOSS> ;)
05:06 < AustinS_> it's actually my work new work issued iMac :P
05:06 <+MillerBOSS> I am using Textual 7.0.11-git (Build 180616.01) (Standalone Version)
05:06 < AustinS_> so I can finally bring my behemoth desktop home
05:06 <+MillerBOSS> Nice
05:06 < AustinS_> been using my personal desktop + monitor for the last 6 months lol
05:06 <+MillerBOSS> I am using Textual 7.0.11-git (Build 180616.01) (Standalone Version)
05:07 <+MillerBOSS> Shit
05:07 < AustinS_> (well like 6+ years, but 6 months since Ive officially been working in the office daily)
05:07 < AustinS_> YES WE KNOW
05:07 <+MillerBOSS> System Information: Model: iMac (27-inch, Mid 2010) • CPU: Intel Core i7 870 (8 Threads, 4 Cores) @ 2.93 GHz • Memory: 32.00 GB • Uptime: 1 day • Disk Space: 499.90 GB • Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 5750 • Display Resolution: 2560 x 1440 • OS: macOS High Sierra (Version 10.13.5, Build 17F77)
05:07 < AustinS_> YOU RUN TEXTUAL
05:07 <+MillerBOSS> I DO
05:07 < AustinS_> System Information: Model: iMac (27-inch, Retina, Mid-2017) • CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K (8 Threads, 4 Cores) @ 4.20 GHz • Memory: 16.00 GB • Uptime: 1 day • Disk Space: 499.96 GB • Graphics: Intel HD Graphics KBL, Radeon Pro 575 • Display Resolution: 5120 x 2880 • OS: macOS High Sierra (Version 10.13.5, Build 17F77)
05:07 < AustinS_> gr @ my RAM.
05:08 < DrGibby|> wtf kinda spam is this shit?
05:08 < AustinS_> they said they'd get me more though if i wanted.
05:08 < AustinS_> idk some shit he did, and then i assumed it must be built into client (it is).  literally first time in my life i've ran textual
05:08 <+MillerBOSS> System Information: Model: MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2017) • CPU: Intel Core i7-7700HQ (8 Threads, 4 Cores) @ 2.80 GHz • Memory: 16.00 GB • Uptime: 2 days • Disk Space: 250.69 GB • Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 630, Radeon Pro 555 • Display Resolution: 2560 x 1600 • OS: macOS High Sierra (Version 10.13.5, Build 17F77)
05:08 <+MillerBOSS> Display Resolution: #1: 2560 x 1600; #2: 3360 x 2100; #3: 1920 x 1080; #4: 2560 x 1600
05:08 <+MillerBOSS> System Memory: Free: 6.01 GB; Used: 9.99 GB; Total: 16.00 GB; — [❙❙❙❙❙❙❙|❙❙❙❙❙]
05:08 < AustinS_> also MillerBOSS  my host on this ones slightly diff cause i am on the cable modem yay! :P
05:08 <+MillerBOSS> :O
05:09 < AustinS_> routed my imac in back room (i set it up back here to work on / hide from people) to just route thru that instead.  so its like my own cable yay..
05:09 < AustinS_> (which i actually finally ordered.. they're coming on Tues)
05:09 < AustinS_> 400/40 .. not bad for cable i guess, best upload i could get :(
05:09 <+MillerBOSS> Oh. The host looked the same
05:09 < AustinS_> same domain slightly diff. just use that for random external facing things here n there
05:10 <+MillerBOSS> Ahh
05:10 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnhXbuaUbmY
05:10 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  YouTube → Michael Jackson - Billie Jean [Live 1983] [HD] → ⚘ 2,480,598 ↑ 13,955 ↓ 334 ✍ 1,659
05:10 < AustinS_> others just resolve to *.static.optonline.net so when i wanna be incognito i use one of those on my desktop :P but involves running diff wires around and changing net config.. not worth
05:11 <+MillerBOSS> Or a bouncer
05:11 <+MillerBOSS> I am surprised you aren't using one
05:12 < AustinS_> i considered it, Idk what's even good anymore, wasn't znc the big one?
05:12 <+MillerBOSS> Yes
05:12 < AustinS_> the next iP on our tiny cable subnet just resolves back to "austin.gg" since that's the one i used to have pointed at my comp :P
05:12 < AustinS_> but i decided i liked gig internet lines more than cablevision..
05:13 <+MillerBOSS> I can add you to mine if you need. You can set up a PTR record as well
05:13 < AustinS_> youre just gonna sneak on and sext people pretending to be me
05:13 < AustinS_> <3
05:13 <+MillerBOSS> Umm you'd have your own username and password
05:14 <+MillerBOSS> I guess I could use the hostname but not your nick.
05:14 < AustinS_> :P
05:14 < AustinS_> true but isnt point of bouncer to just leave it running more than the DNS aspect of it
05:14 < AustinS_> at least thats what i always used it for
05:14 < AustinS_> so itd spam me back when i missed when i was offline
05:15 <+MillerBOSS> Sure. But you mentioned your austin.gg
05:15 <+MillerBOSS> It would if you had it do that sure.
05:15 <+MillerBOSS> I also use it so I can log in to the same client (ZNC) multiple times.
05:15 < AustinS_> yea. I cleared up a few ports on my desktop, so I could run an optimum line to it again, but im getting rid of it soon that's why I was like ehh
05:16 < AustinS_> altho when i move my desktop HOME .. would def be more handy :P
05:16 < AustinS_> yea so you're not an underscore tard like me :(
05:16 < Hunterkll> DrGibby|, so when i get to moscow where do i meet you for my paycheck?
05:16 < AustinS_> also its been soo long since I've setup a Mac DE for development/work.. need to start figuring out what ive missed :P
05:16 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7vRSu_wsNc
05:17 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  YouTube → Prince - Raspberry Beret (Official Music Video) → ⚘ 9,094,941 ↑ 64,070 ↓ 2,891 ✍ 4,413
05:17 < AustinS_> brb
05:17 <+MillerBOSS> afk
05:17 <+MillerBOSS> back
05:17 <+MillerBOSS> ASL DrGibby|
05:17 < DrGibby|> WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WNT
05:18 < DrGibby|> oh
05:18 <+MillerBOSS> You bby
05:18 < DrGibby|> 14/f/Cali
05:18 <+MillerBOSS> Hey honey.
05:18 < DrGibby|> ...
05:18 <+MillerBOSS> What are you wearing?
05:18 < Casteil> nothing
05:18 < AustinS_> http://www.speedtest.net/result/7407122184.png yay
05:18 <+layer-eight> * AustinS_ →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 21,451 bytes
05:18 < AustinS_> not turrible
05:19  * DrGibby| takes of my robe and wizard hat
05:19 <+MillerBOSS> Wow thats hot.
05:19 < Casteil> AustinS_: better than mine
05:19 < Casteil> mine's a little less symmetric :\
05:19 <+MillerBOSS> Do you have a cam?
05:19 < Casteil> buut, it's pretty consistent and reliable
05:19 < Casteil> pay for 150/20, get 180/24
05:19 <+MillerBOSS> Spectrum?
05:19 < Casteil> http://www.speedtest.net/result/7407123556.png
05:19 <+layer-eight> * Casteil →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 21,177 bytes
05:19 < Casteil> the big evil
05:19 < AustinS_> on my desktop going out the main line, it can max out the port.. sadly more often on upload than download.  but its also VERY erratic.. just depends whats going on
05:19 < Casteil> (Comcast)
05:20 <+MillerBOSS> Oh
05:20 < AustinS_> yeah comcast was horrrrible with their upload
05:20 < Casteil> frankly we've had a pretty good experience with them
05:20 < AustinS_> They werel ike hey we doubled your download to 300!! but you still get 15 burst up and will die down to like 11-12
05:20 <+MillerBOSS> Depends if DrGibby| and I are cam'n or not
05:20 < Casteil> at least for home internet
05:20 < AustinS_> they're reliable, and downloads were great..
05:20 < DrGibby|> no
05:20 < DrGibby|> we're not
05:20 < AustinS_> but damn if I'm paying for the 300 Mbps.. iwant more than fucking 15 up! lol
05:20 <+MillerBOSS> We use 8K™
05:21 < DrGibby|> gotta see all dam pimples on muh nuts
05:21 <+MillerBOSS> Eww. Thought you were teaching me vSphere are the white board, yuck.
05:21 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0KpfrJE4zw
05:21 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  YouTube → Prince - Little Red Corvette (Official Music Video) → ⚘ 8,276,325 ↑ 53,678 ↓ 1,848 ✍ 3,039
05:22 <+MillerBOSS> Where is that cryptic1 whore. I know he is lurking.
05:22 < Casteil> I don't know why I keep clicking your fucking links MillerBOSS
05:22 < AustinS> lets see how internap treats me right now
05:22 <+MillerBOSS> Because you want to listen Casteil
05:23 < AustinS> trashhh download lmao
05:23 < Casteil> I really don't
05:23 <+MillerBOSS> Well layer-eight tells you what it is
05:23 <+MillerBOSS> So you can save a click :P
05:23 < AustinS> Casteil, want to talk about a little non-symmetrical ..
05:23 < AustinS> http://www.speedtest.net/result/7407128527.png
05:23 <+layer-eight> * AustinS →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 21,948 bytes
05:23 <+MillerBOSS> QoS?
05:23 < Casteil> o_O
05:24 < AustinS> nah think there's some stuff getting pushed in or just .. idk. its hit or miss. most people are gone now but im sure switch is still bizzy
05:24 <+MillerBOSS> I mean is the download low because of Quilty of service set up
05:24 <+MillerBOSS> Ahh
05:24 < AustinS> no ive gotten it in the 800/900s before
05:24 < AustinS> just a shit network that all :P
05:24 < AustinS> our two main core switches are definittellyyy EOL
05:25 <+MillerBOSS> Oh totally up your ally Casteil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWa-6g-TbgI
05:25 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  YouTube → Eddie Murphy - Party All the Time → ⚘ 14,837,846 ↑ 112,063 ↓ 4,298 ✍ 9,733 → * Content Restrictions
05:25 <+MillerBOSS> Tell V**** its time to upgrade boss.
05:26 < AustinS> lol right
05:26 < Casteil> https://www.amazon.com/Xerox-WorkCentre-3215-NI-Multifunction/dp/B00OKD3FVO
05:26 < AustinS> i think we have new nexus 7000s
05:26 < AustinS> but will they ever do it???? time will tell..
05:26 < Casteil> not that that's a great office machine, but cheap for a home laser printer
05:27 <+MillerBOSS> Uhh why is that only $100?
05:27 < AustinS> yea its crazy how cheap printers have come down
05:27 < Casteil> apparently it's not super uncommon for it to be ~$130 adn it's been around $100 a few times in the last 6 months
05:27 < AustinS> also holy shit if you guys wanna see a printer................... lol
05:27 < AustinS> i about shit myself walking into this room a few days ago.  lemme go grab a smoke and ill take a pic
05:27 <+MillerBOSS> https://camelcamelcamel.com/Xerox-WorkCentre-3215-NI-Multifunction/product/B00OKD3FVO
05:28 < Casteil> I've got a Brother 2270DW still kicking around
05:28 < AustinS> ill bring a pepsi/coke can for scale cause it may be needed. brb my bb's <3
05:28 <+MillerBOSS> Rj45 even. Thats like $50 by itself to have that
05:29 < enix> how do i work out which dhcp serverim receiving an ip from
05:29 < Casteil> but yeah.. funny to see it on amazon for $99
05:29 < enix> winodws or linux dont mind
05:29 < Casteil> shit probably costs like $50 to ship
05:29 < AustinS> enix, find out which one sends you the DHCPRESP from your DHCPREQ :P wireshark? tcpdump if linux/osx(?)
05:30 < AustinS> ideally only one would be anyways... i would imagine
05:30 <+MillerBOSS> I've been buying https://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-laserjet-pro-mfp-m225dw and disabling Wi-Fi
05:30 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  HP LaserJet Pro MFP M225dw| HP® Official Store
05:30 < AustinS> which reminds me i gotta setup ip helper address on other vlans from other building to come to my new dhcp buddy
05:31  * CheckYourSix wonders why printers still exist...
05:31 <+MillerBOSS> enix 👉 ipconfig /all will tell you that
05:31 < enix> you'd hope so
05:31 <+MillerBOSS> Windows
05:32 <+MillerBOSS> enix 👉 Or ipconfig /all | find /i "DHCP Server"
05:33 < enix> ah found dhcp doco
05:33 < enix> MillerBOSS: that doesnt come up with anything :\
05:33 <+MillerBOSS> In Windows command prompt?
05:33 < enix> yeah
05:33 <+MillerBOSS> Works over here
05:33 < enix> gateway is doing a dhcp relay, so i'm guessing dhcp appears to come from gateway
05:34 < enix> so windows doesn't actually double-print the gateways ip
05:34 <+MillerBOSS> Then wireshark
05:34 < enix> Thanks MillerBOSS and AustinS
05:34 <+MillerBOSS> You should see default gateway DHCP server and dns servers
05:34 <+MillerBOSS> You bet señor
05:35 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy46iOwWQiE
05:35 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  YouTube → Matthew Wilder - Break My Stride ( Full & HQ ) → ⚘ 4,218,720 ↑ 31,926 ↓ 933 ✍ 2,682
05:35 <@Nostalg14c> Do you think its possible
05:35 <@Nostalg14c> to download a fully patched Win7 .wim file.
05:35 < DrGibby|> CheckYourSix: they exist because I like paper records sometimes
05:36 < xe0n> loll day 2 of new job and enix is already on irc
05:36 < xe0n> lol
05:36 <+MillerBOSS> From where Nostalg14c ?
05:36 <+MillerBOSS> LOL thats right enix has a new jobby job
05:36 < xe0n> Nostalg14c: i can roll one for you when i get home if you'd like, I do have one till 2017-12 if you want it
05:37 <@Nostalg14c> MillerBOSS: The internet.
05:37 <@Nostalg14c> I'm trying to patch one, but its a pain in the dickhole to get it to work right.
05:37 < xe0n> yeah there's a formula
05:37 <+MillerBOSS> I thought maybe you meant directly from Microsoft.
05:37 <@Nostalg14c> MillerBOSS: ideally, but they haven't done any iso since W7 Sp1...
05:38 <@Nostalg14c> so theyre pretty useless.
05:38 <@Nostalg14c> I've used WSUSOffline w/ DISM and the W7SP1 iso.
05:38 <@Nostalg14c> And excluded a couple known shitty KB's
05:38 <+MillerBOSS> If you install the rollup and 2-3 updates after with reboots its daily fast to fully update
05:38 <+MillerBOSS> fairly
05:38 <@Nostalg14c> Sure then you need to re-capture I guess.
05:39 <+MillerBOSS> Ohhhh weeee ohhhhh weeee ohhhhh
05:39 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2FPQvwhSDY
05:39 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  YouTube → Morris Day and The Time - Jungle Love (HQ) → ⚘ 5,410,081 ↑ 38,202 ↓ 1,469 ✍ 1,485
05:39 < xe0n> it's a bit more than that, but yeah general idea. i typically have a ts that applies the base, does the wsus stuff, then recaptures.
05:40 < enix> hi Nostalg14c
05:40 <@Nostalg14c> hi enix
05:40 <@Nostalg14c> you ignored me yesterday
05:40 <@Nostalg14c> and for that
05:40 < enix> no...
05:40 < enix> dont
05:40 < enix> I ignored you yesterday when?
05:40 <@Nostalg14c> I asked a question to you.
05:40 <@Nostalg14c> and got NOTHING
05:40 < enix> Oh whats up
05:41 <@Nostalg14c> nm u
05:41 < enix> lmao
05:41 <@JollyRgrs> aww, gibby left
05:41 < enix> Started new job yesterday so I'm a bit fried... there's a LOT to soak in and if we're being a /little/ bit honest
05:41 < enix> I'm out of my depth a bit, but i'm learning :)
05:41 < Anaphylaxis> Fake it 'till you make it.
05:42 < xe0n> which is why you're on irc at work on day 2
05:42 < xe0n> lol
05:42 <@Nostalg14c> enix: Thats what i actually asked. When do you start.
05:42 <@Nostalg14c> haha
05:42 < enix> oh haha well I replied :P
05:42 < enix> xe0n: I live in IRC sometimes. I've even been logging in for the american shift to cause trouble
05:42 < xe0n> met cameron the croc yet?
05:42 < enix> s/cause trouble/converse internationally
05:42 <+layer-eight> [SED enix] xe0n: I live in IRC sometimes. I've even been logging in for the american shift to converse internationally
05:42 < enix> brb
05:43 < enix> ello_govna:
05:45 <@JollyRgrs> enix: lol
05:52 <+MillerBOSS> LMAO
05:54 < abakedapplepie> rip
05:55 <+MillerBOSS> Lol my cloud https://twitter.com/Tinyneustra/status/1009280226520641537
05:55 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Anthony Samora on Twitter: "@IRCCloud Hey my cloud keeps disconnecting, now I cannot even connect to the page"
05:55 < gnupluslinux> irccloud is rip?
06:09 <+MillerBOSS> Wow keep me away from Twitter
06:10 < AustinS> back
06:16 < AustinS> oh yea that printer :
06:17 < Hunterkll> lol
06:17 < Hunterkll> irc is supposed to be distributed for a reason
06:17 < Hunterkll> aka it fucking works
06:18 < Hunterkll> i love seeing irccloud's problems
06:18 < AustinS> and pepsi for scale ofc https://austin.gg/ss/OQOxGuJ.jpg
06:18 <+layer-eight> * AustinS →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 689,186 bytes
06:18 < AustinS> (thats not actually it thats the little printer i was actualyl trying to find) :P
06:18 < Hunterkll> wow
06:18 < Hunterkll> AustinS, that thing doesn't even have a badge reader or any other slew of features i'd expect from a real printer
06:18 < Hunterkll> AMATEUR
06:19 < AustinS> https://austin.gg/ss/Z69jvWu.jpg
06:19 < Hunterkll> GAY SEX AMATEUR
06:19 <+layer-eight> * AustinS →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 682,218 bytes
06:19 < Hunterkll> oh
06:19 < Hunterkll> now that's a printer
06:19 < Hunterkll> AustinS, automated binding too?
06:19 < AustinS> yeah O_O did not know that thing existed.
06:19 < AustinS> yep
06:19 < Hunterkll> yea
06:19 < Hunterkll> had a kinkos employee before fedex bought 'em out
06:19 < Hunterkll> let me go in and print out a shitload
06:19 < Hunterkll> a SHITLOAD
06:19 < abakedapplepie> one of my clients has a very large very modern xerox
06:19 < Hunterkll> of historical unix documentation and manuals i didn't have
06:19 < abakedapplepie> its like 10 feet long
06:20 < abakedapplepie> i think it costs more than a decent house
06:20 < Hunterkll> each book i passed out someone was like "lul thats a $100 print job"
06:20 < Hunterkll> and i walked out with a car load
06:20 < Hunterkll> lmao
06:20 < abakedapplepie> no idea what it is, no pics
06:20 < Hunterkll> i did some replacement pages for my lions commentary but still have the coffee rings and signatures from the 70s
06:21 < Hunterkll> AustinS, i blatantly abused the fuck out of having access to one of those and printed all the unix documentation
06:21 < Hunterkll> all of it
06:21 < Hunterkll> back in
06:21 < Hunterkll> god
06:21 < Hunterkll> 2004?
06:22 < Hunterkll> AustinS, one of my quick reference manuals for when dealing with older unix systems i got out of that - https://i.imgur.com/V07aiKb.jpg
06:22 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 577,215 bytes
06:22 < Hunterkll> yes, i printed the /entire set/
06:22 < Hunterkll> UNIX R7 man pages
06:22 < Hunterkll> ;)
06:23 < AustinS> lmao @ printed all documentation\
06:23 < Hunterkll> like i said
06:23 < Hunterkll> also filled in missing pages of my legit oldschool shit
06:23 < Hunterkll> but that manual's a 1979 manual
06:23 < Hunterkll> i keep it under my desk and still reference it
06:23 < Hunterkll> i did just sell my IA-32 manual at a hamfest last week tho
06:23 < Hunterkll> lol
06:24 < AustinS> i dont think i own a physical paper manual or anything
06:24 < Hunterkll> lol
06:24 < AustinS> well i lied i printed someones API doc today cause we're meeting with them tomorrow
06:24 < AustinS> but beside that!
06:24 < Hunterkll> AustinS, i have XWindows/Motif manuals i've tweted a cover at to Jeffery Snover who said "I remember writing that!" in response
06:24 < Hunterkll> jeffery snover made powershell
06:24 < Hunterkll> he also was instrumental in unix UIs
06:24 < Hunterkll> >_>
06:24 < AustinS> :o
06:26 < Hunterkll> i should check my precision water bath
06:26 < Hunterkll> brb
06:27 < Hunterkll> 38.9 c on the register after 45 minutes stability wait
06:27 < Hunterkll> i need 38.5-39.3
06:27 < Hunterkll> i'm satisfied
06:27 < Hunterkll> processing begins tomorrow
06:27 < Hunterkll> AustinS shall be the first muggle processed
06:28 <+MillerBOSS> EU needs to die, kthxbye https://blog.github.com/2018-03-14-eu-proposal-upload-filters-code/
06:28 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  EU wants to require platforms to filter uploaded content (including code) | The GitHub Blog
06:28 < Hunterkll> nah
06:28 < Hunterkll> needs a martin luther reformation
06:29 <+MillerBOSS> Well something. They are wack jobs over there
06:30 < Hunterkll> GDPR was good
06:30 < Hunterkll> this is stupid
06:30 < AustinS> O_O @ bath
06:30 < AustinS> why are you bathing me??
06:30 < Hunterkll> AustinS, precision water bath is kept at a specific, calibrated temperature for stability of chemical components
06:30 < Hunterkll> :>
06:32 < AustinS> :*
06:32 < Hunterkll> Now, while these MAY appear to be standard photographic chemicals
06:32 < Hunterkll> and they are, don't get you wrong
06:32 < Hunterkll> i've imbibed them with some magic, you see
06:32  * Hunterkll shoves a fifth of everclear into AustinS 's mouth
06:32 < Hunterkll> er i mean
06:32  * Hunterkll casts oblivate
06:32 < Hunterkll> same thing right?
06:35 < AustinS> ;o either or
06:35 < AustinS> <3
06:38 < AustinS> i was heatin up pizza
06:38 < AustinS> yay
06:39 <+MillerBOSS> All nighter AustinS?
06:39 <+MillerBOSS> I think I have to
06:43 < AustinS> iii hope im not but .. it is already 1 anddd
06:43 < AustinS> thats not a good sign for me lol
06:43 < AustinS> not that its late, just that i just did this.. and i know I have no intention of leaving.. but just want to get shit done and nottt come in at all tomororw
06:43 < AustinS> ideally
06:52 < AustinS> also wtf @ my mac went to sleep and quit shit earlier, its just supposed to turn off screen. dumb :p brb
06:52 < AustinS> goin back to that room
06:52 < AustinS> (so ya MillerBOSS probably all nighter :) since i havent gotten a few things done I needed to yet)
06:54 <+MillerBOSS> lol
06:54 <+MillerBOSS> I am busy shit posting on Twitter
06:54 <+MillerBOSS> And I got work to do
07:06 <@Nostalg14c> Why have i been attempting to remember retarded dism commands
07:06 <@Nostalg14c> when powershell has sane versions built in
07:07 <@Nostalg14c> with better fucking errors.
07:07 <@Nostalg14c> fml
07:22 < AustinS> im busy sitting here thinking if i even have enough brain power or energy to do anything. but also know i gottta.
07:23 <+MillerBOSS> LMAO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRGljemfwUE this never gets old.
07:23 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  YouTube → The Website is Down #1: Sales Guy vs. Web Dude → ⚘ 1,027,790 ↑ 12,617 ↓ 159 ✍ 651
07:23 <+MillerBOSS> Wow irc cloud is back
07:31 < enix> woah so many people just joined
07:31 < enix> oh irc cloud far out
07:31 < enix> did it go down or something
07:32 < enix> Nostalg14c: stop having errors. Be perfect.
07:32 < vader-> is there a !seen command or anything for this channel?
07:32 < enix> `seen nost
07:32 <+layer-eight> I need someone to look for enix
07:32 < enix> `seen Nostalg14c
07:32 <+layer-eight> I need someone to look for enix
07:32 < enix> `seen Nostalg14c
07:32 <+layer-eight> I need someone to look for enix
07:32 < enix> `seen Nostalg14c reddit-sysadmin
07:32 <+layer-eight> I have no data on reddit-sysadmin
07:33 <+MillerBOSS> Its kinds broken at the moment
07:33 < enix> `seen Nostalg14c Nostalg14c
07:33 <+layer-eight> Seen →  Nostalg14c Saying fml via Log on #reddit-sysadmin 26 minutes ago
07:33 < vader-> 'seen sbrick98
07:33 < enix> lol
07:33 < enix> `seen sbrick98 sbrick98
07:33 <+layer-eight> I have no data on sbrick98
07:33 < vader-> 'seen sbrick
07:33 < enix> His reach is a little limited
07:33 < vader-> 'seen sbrick sbrick
07:33 < enix> `seen enix vader-
07:33 <+layer-eight> Seen →  vader- Saying 'seen sbrick sbrick via Log on #reddit-sysadmin a few seconds ago
07:33 < enix> hm.
07:33 < enix> it's a back tick
07:33 < enix> `seen sbrick sbrick
07:33 <+MillerBOSS> IronY 👉 See how seen does work with two nicks
07:33 <+layer-eight> I have no data on sbrick
07:34 <@Nostalg14c> aye
07:34 < enix> `seen dickhead IronY
07:34 <+layer-eight> Seen →  IronY Saying I love reddit for that via Log on #reddit-sysadmin 6 hours ago
07:34 < enix> yeah goes via second name... probably cryptic1 trying to prevent spam
07:34 < enix> `seen enix .*
07:34 <+layer-eight> I have no data on .*
07:34 <@Nostalg14c> yo dawg
07:34 < enix> fine then.
07:34 <@Nostalg14c> thhis is why we cant have nice htings.
07:35 < enix> Nostalg14c: Nice things were made to be broken Nostalg14c
07:35 <@Nostalg14c> That explains your FACE
07:35 < enix> You think my face is nice?
07:35 < enix> Naw
07:35 <@Nostalg14c> xo
07:35  * MillerBOSS slaps enix around a bit with a large trout
07:35 < enix> Is it bad that I kinda want to ask not to hire another IT person so that I can have a second monitor?
07:36 < enix> Oh... trouts your name for it now is it?
07:36 < vader-> any of you have experience with HireRight?
07:36 < enix> My googling does
07:36 < enix> You trying to wrought the system ?
07:36 < vader-> na
07:36 < enix> GIve them a fake name. Works 100% of the time
07:37 < vader-> just wondering how ball busting they are going to be
07:37 < enix> +100 internet points for using Hunterkll's name
07:37 < vader-> i got a job offer and accepted
07:37 < vader-> then they were like btw, fill out this background check form from hire right
07:40 < vader-> im curious if this IDE to USB adapter I have will handle CDROM/DVD drives
07:43 <+A-KO> well i'm sort of back
07:43 <+A-KO> still trying to figure out my CPU heatsink installation
07:44 <+A-KO> my old CPU cooler died
07:44 <+A-KO> got a replacement
07:44 <+A-KO> it sort of works
07:48 < Church-> Heya A-KO enix
07:49 <+A-KO> sigh there's something wrong
07:49  * MillerBOSS waves to IRCCloud again
07:49 <+MillerBOSS> LOL
07:58 < AustinS_> what a piece lol
07:59 < AustinS_> alright ive decided im not going to get anything productive done and it'll be the end of me if i try
07:59 < AustinS_> night! :p
07:59 <+MillerBOSS> So sleep time?
08:00 < humpaxx> Good morning!
08:00 < AustinS_> hopefully, who knows/we will see :P
08:00 < Tzunamii> Morning
08:01 < plop> morning
08:01 < Tzunamii> For those who hasn't seen this yet, https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2990x-32-core-64-thread-cpu-specs-performance-overclock-leak/
08:01 <+layer-eight> * Tzunamii →  AMD 2nd Gen Ryzen Threadripper 2990X 32 Core Specs, Performance Leaked
08:02 < AustinS_> good luck to you MillerBOSS  :p only reason all nighter tonight isnt really a smart option is cause i basically did one last nighttt. :X
08:02 < AustinS_> so i'm probably doing a lot more harm than good at this point, mostly to myself lol
08:03 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah I hear that
08:03 < AustinS_> or maybe 2? idk. The fact I'm not sure, it's a sign :)   later!
08:07 < IronY> MillerBOSS:
08:07 < IronY> hrm
08:07 < IronY> `seen MillerBOSS MillerBOSS
08:07 <+layer-eight> Seen →  MillerBOSS Saying Yeah I hear that via Log on #reddit-sysadmin 4 minutes ago
08:07 < plop> is it working again?
08:07 < IronY> when was the last time u updated the code?
08:07 < plop> `first-seen MillerBOSS
08:07 <+layer-eight> I need someone to look for plop
08:07 < plop> meh
08:07 < IronY> plop:
08:07 < IronY> `first-seen MillerBOSS MillerBOSS
08:07 <+layer-eight> Seen →  MillerBOSS Saying Layer-9 update via Log on #boats2 2 months ago → Changing their nick to MillerBoss on [#boats2] 2 months ago → additional results have been messaged to you IronY
08:07 < IronY> oh i just broke u bot
08:08 < IronY> LOL
08:08 < IronY> except a DC in a few seconds
08:08 < plop> yeah excess flood?
08:08 <+MillerBOSS> Yup. That is what happens when you use my name twice only
08:08 < IronY> MillerBOSS: I think everything has been patched, u just need to pull
08:08 <+MillerBOSS> plop found that feature. :P
08:08 < IronY> I actually fixed that one last night
08:08 <+MillerBOSS> OK I'll do that now
08:08 < IronY> yeah I am done fucking around with the code, i even added basic quotes
08:08 < IronY> everything I touched is stable
08:09 < IronY> it is still messagin em, how has it not spammed out yet
08:09 < IronY> lol
08:09 < humpaxx> Apparently a temprature related thing caused a bunch of Azure North europe to be inaccessible for a few hours last night, im hoping the post-mortem will be an interesting read
08:09 < humpaxx> "Its too hot! Shut down EVERYTHING!"
08:10 < IronY> there we go
08:10 < IronY> it is funny because I found that last night
08:10 < IronY> while using ur nick on the other channel
08:10 < IronY> lol
08:11 <+MillerBOSS> error: Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten by merge:
08:11 <+MillerBOSS>        package-lock.json
08:11 <+MillerBOSS>        package.json
08:11 < IronY> git stash
08:11 < IronY> git stash clear
08:12 < IronY>  * [new tag]         1.0.17 -> 1.0.17
08:13 < enix> Hunterkll:
08:13 < enix> you there
08:13 < enix> quick q
08:13 <+MillerBOSS> What does that new tag mean IronY ?
08:13 < IronY> means there is a new 'release'
08:14 < enix> IronY: is being upgraded
08:14  * IronY is at 0.01% upgraded
08:15 < IronY> lets get ur shit fixed MillerBOSS, I wanna close that github issue lol
08:16 < IronY> I can confirm, i tested it out with ur back tick trigger word, and it worked for me, so I am assuming u are at a place in the code where I had just given you the ability to modify trigger words
08:16 < IronY> and I had fixed the bug hours later or something
08:16 <+MillerBOSS> https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-06-20-01-16-53-e.png IronY
08:17 <+MillerBOSS> Thats after successful git pull and npm install
08:17 < IronY> rm -rf node_modules
08:17 < IronY> npm install
08:18 < IronY> shit , lol, that might be my bad
08:18 <+MillerBOSS> Should I run this command in blue https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-06-20-01-18-27-v.png ?
08:18 < IronY> yes
08:19 < IronY> give me a sec
08:19 <+MillerBOSS> Same Winston error. Sure.
08:19 < IronY> pull
08:21 <+MillerBOSS> OK
08:22 <+MillerBOSS> Is this a big deal IronY https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-06-20-01-22-00-z.png ?
08:22 <+MillerBOSS> That was after git pull
08:22 < IronY> nope
08:22 < IronY> all good
08:23 <+MillerBOSS> https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-06-20-01-23-06-P.png
08:23 <+MillerBOSS> Running npm install sqlite3 --save
08:24 < IronY> `seen MillerBOSS
08:24 < IronY> layer-eight: seen MillerBOSS
08:24 < IronY> `hello
08:24 < IronY> whats it telling u
08:24 <+MillerBOSS> Oh
08:24 <+MillerBOSS> It needs to be +v
08:24 <+MillerBOSS> Nostalg14c 👉 Can you +v layer-eight
08:25 <+MillerBOSS> The bot needs to be +v to msg channel IronY that is all
08:25 < IronY> ohh
08:25 < IronY> is it not registered?
08:26 < IronY> you know u can register it and put the chanserv credentials in right
08:26 <+MillerBOSS> It is registered.
08:26 <+MillerBOSS> I have
08:26 <+MillerBOSS> But there is a +q set so the ops can easily quiet it
08:26 < IronY> then how come I can talk?
08:26 < IronY> and I am not +v?
08:26 < IronY> makes sense
08:27 < IronY> well, seen works in priv message
08:27 < IronY> so that is a good sign lol
08:27 <+MillerBOSS> Wonderful
08:28 < IronY> most importantly, first-seen does not break it
08:28 < IronY> MillerBOSS: are u attached to the console?
08:28 <+MillerBOSS> Yes
08:28 < IronY> u should still be able to see if the output works
08:28 < IronY> `seen IronY
08:29 <+MillerBOSS> https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-06-20-01-29-13-X.png
08:29 <+MillerBOSS> Looks fine
08:29 < IronY> works
08:29 < IronY> yippie
08:29 < IronY> another ticket closed
08:29 <+MillerBOSS> So was it a glitch or something I did?
08:30 < IronY> We will never really know lol
08:30 <+MillerBOSS> Well plop will be happy
08:30 < IronY> if you ever find something like that first-seen bug
08:30 < IronY> please let me know asap
08:30 <+MillerBOSS> I did but you were on a trip and I didn't want to pester ya
08:30 < plop> haha is it working now?
08:30 < plop> `first-seen cryptic1
08:30 <+MillerBOSS> Yes but the layer-eight needs to be voiced plop
08:30 < IronY> it is, but it cannot send to the channel
08:31 < plop> poor bot
08:31 < plop> i still want `xkcd and a return from the last comic to be implemented.
08:31 < IronY> i could do that
08:32 < IronY> it actually has a rss feed system
08:32 < IronY> in my channel i subscribe to xkcd system
08:32 < IronY> s/system/stream
08:32 < plop> cool!
08:32 < plop> btw, is xkcd good today?
08:32 < vader-> ya ircclod is shitting the bed tonight
08:33 < IronY> it amazes me how many people have to use a third party to accomplish something that has been easy for two decades
08:33 < xe0n> a bnc?
08:33 < xe0n> lol yeah
08:34 < IronY> i mean there just wrapping around a modified znc if I am not mistaken
08:34 < xe0n> probably
08:34 < jumi> morning
08:34 < plop> sup jumi
08:35 <+MillerBOSS> I wonder if its just one guy running IRCCloud
08:36 < IronY> so like my country legalized recreational weed at a federal level today
08:36 < Maarten> geesh, I just have a linux box at home that runs 24/7 with ZNC on it.... why would I want to "go to the irc cloud" for that
08:36 < IronY> Maarten: I just run the znc on a droplette that is running other shit
08:36 < IronY> that way even my home internet is not a failure point
08:37 <+MillerBOSS> Canada, eh? That is why cryptic1 isn't here
08:37 < Maarten> IronY, yeah, great. Now you can build a strategic weed reserve right next to the strategic maple syrup reserve :P
08:37 <+MillerBOSS> Smoking the doobies
08:37 < IronY> windows -> ssh -> local linux box -> screen -> weechat -> znc -> (HE TUNNEL) -> freenode
08:39 < IronY> lol, the most complicated setup for a text based chat
08:39 < Maarten> hexchat on windows --> ZNC on linux --> freenode. I'm IPv4 for the only reason I haven't put a v6 server in my ZNC config ;)
08:39  * IronY did all 20 hours of the HE shit just to get custom vhosts
08:39 < IronY> i love them
08:39 < IronY> best practical training
08:39 < IronY> disable irc ports until u reach sage level lol
08:39 < Maarten> I don't have vhosts.... but I do own 5 IP's and can enabled reverse DNS on them for one of my domains. Maybe I should do that and create some funny host.
08:40 < jumi> hey plop
08:40 < xe0n> i have vhosts :)
08:41 < IronY> I would imagine 90% of the traffic going over those HE tunnels is IRC traffic
09:07 < IronY> MillerBOSS: still there?
10:47 < vader-> i wonder if i can still get access to my ICQ account
10:47 < IronY> 20293034
10:47 < IronY> if u can
10:47 < IronY> see if i still exist
10:47 < vader-> hehe
10:47 < vader-> i remember mine
10:47 < vader-> i had a sweet 7 digit number
10:48 < IronY> i met my first love on irc
10:48 < IronY> back when u could get a bj for ops
10:48  * IronY sighs
10:49 < IronY> people are weird
10:49 < IronY> just so that does not sound sexist, I am sure some lovely woman got cunnilingus for ops as well
10:51 < vader-> well i have been going memory lane this week
10:51 < vader-> i was over my parents and I was finally able to get to a closet where I had stored a computer and bunch of CD books from when they moved in like almost 20 years ago
10:52 < vader-> and i had hard drives
10:52 < vader-> ive been digging through the hard drives, cds, etc looking at all kinds of crazy shit
10:52 < vader-> i found some chats and stuff with a chick I was rapping to back in high school
10:52 < vader-> turns out she is a lesbian
10:52 < mtnielsen> anyone got the scoop on pfsense and doing source nat on a port forward (so the server doesn't see the client's public ip, only the pfsense ip)?
10:52 < mtnielsen> I can't seem to find the checkbox that does this
10:53 < vader-> it was funny, i was reading the chats and she was like a cunt but i guess i didn't see it back then... i found her twitter, and she tweeted she went to her 10 year reunion and someone told her she was "cunty" in high school
10:53 < vader-> hehe
11:16 < bvierra> yay $job os ,ergomg
11:16 < bvierra> $job is merging even
11:24 < Fuk> LOL DONGS
11:24 <+ihre> bvierra: did you find some people for the job you posted earlier ? :)
11:27 < bvierra> nope, and now we are merging so a full hiring freeze
12:18 < Alternity> rip bvierra's job
12:18 < Alternity> we'll probably be hiring a jr sysadmin in a few months
12:24 < bvierra> way over my head there
12:24 < bvierra> and I dunno, it may or may not be
12:24 < bvierra> our CEO is staying CEO... CTO is becoming CIO
12:26 < Alternity> who is taking over who?
12:27 < Alternity> if you are the larger company your job security is better, but by no means guaranteed
12:27 < Alternity> regardless as always the r/sysadmin wisdom is apt.  polish that resume, look at doing some job interviews to get back in practice and figure out your market worth
12:27 < Alternity> and don't be surprised when your job is outsourced to Jikarta
12:28 < Alternity> and be the positive go to guy at your job working earnestly to intergrate the companies IT systems :P
12:28 < Alternity> also don't work more than 40 hrs a week
12:28 < FenJai> Also, always CYA with a paper trail
12:31 < Alternity> prepare three envelopes
12:37 < humpaxx> Alternity: never heard of anyone actually leaving the 3 envelopes
12:37 < Alternity> humpaxx: yup pretty much, it's a fun meme though
12:37 < Alternity> considering the three envelopes were really for the CEO of a company, not one of us IT schlubs
12:38 < Alternity> i do enjoy how the answer to pretty much every rant on r/sysadmin is time for a new job
12:38 < Alternity> and they are mostly correct
12:38 < xe0n> loll it's toxic
12:38 < Alternity> finding a new job?  it's the correct move
12:38 < xe0n> but by the time people are ranting about their job online, they're already over it.
12:39 < Alternity> obviously every situation is different, but generally if your workplace or manager is toxic it's time for a new job
12:39 < Alternity> 95% of the time i see people replying to a rant to get a new job i agree with them
12:40 < xe0n> lol
12:40 < Alternity> the only time you put up with a toxic job is if you are new to IT and need the XP on your resume
12:40 < xe0n> sure, if you're having a people problem, sometimes you can't change anything, and if you dont like it, sure move
12:40 < xe0n> but half of the time it's "oh they do X this way, when I think it should be done Y way" yep, you should leave lol... that is toxic, and stupid.
12:41 < Alternity> i dont know if i see that very often
12:41 < xe0n> seen it plenty lol
12:41 < Alternity> the thing i do see for sure is it nerds ranting about their company and people replying the problem is you not the company
12:42 < xe0n> i dont read the sub often anymore, it's the same shit every day
12:42 < Alternity> any post on the sub will be from the IT person's perspective so it's always biased.  it's like reading r/relationships.  most of the time people are just looking for validation of their PoV
12:42 < Alternity> xe0n: it's handy for keeping tabs on new tech and security vulnerabilities
12:43 < Alternity> but i would agree it's targeted towards IT newbies and SMB admins mostly
12:43 < xe0n> sure, but theres also other places to get that from lol
12:43 < Alternity> you need to go to other subs for more enterprise level IT discussions
12:43 < xe0n> correcto
12:43 < humpaxx> Alternity: wich ones are those?
12:43 < xe0n> r/gonewild
12:43 < Alternity> ^
12:43 < humpaxx> Of course, the real nuggets are in the comment section
12:44 < xe0n> i used to see posts of the same stuff, and copy and paste my reply lol
12:44 < Alternity> r/netsec/ is great, if a bit elitist, r/networking , r/linux r/devops
12:44 < Alternity> more i'm forgetting
12:45 < humpaxx> "just reimage it already" "You should be using MDT" "This is a HR issue not a techical one"
12:45 < Alternity> i do wish r/sysadmin had other related subreddits listed in the sidebar
12:45 < xe0n> ^
12:45 < FenJai> r/homelab ?
12:45 < Alternity> eh, if ur a newbie
12:45 < Alternity> i would lump r/homelab in with r/sysadmin
12:45 < xe0n> "how do i remove the crapware from windows 10" "ehhh dont you have better things to do than break the OS" "no, this is important, i dont want people to get the twitter app"
12:46 < Alternity> i mainly check out r/homelab if i'm looking for suggestions for deals on ebay for hardware
12:46 < humpaxx> xe0n: someone here had a really nice and short guide on how to do that properly, and not with some powershell script or 3rd party app that does all that
12:46 < Alternity> oh shit i forgot the most important IT sub, r/cableporn
12:46 < xe0n> loll
12:46 < humpaxx> Alternity: r/techsupportgore
12:47 < FenJai> Doesnt tron deal with win10 debloat fairly well ?
12:47 < xe0n> r/holdmyfeedingtube
12:47 < xe0n> or something along those lines
12:47 < Alternity> humpaxx: that place gives me PTSD flashbacks to my MSP days
12:47 < xe0n> lol debloat win10.... it's fine, and works great. move on...
12:48 < Alternity> xe0n: depends on your company size.  if you are stuck with win10 pro it can be a problem
12:48 < humpaxx> Afaik Enterprise has the same junk?
12:48 < xe0n> lol this convo is not what i wanted, but sure, pro can be a pain, use ent
12:48 < Alternity> you can remove msot of it via gpo, need fewer reg and powershell hacks
12:48 < xe0n> and gpo "turn consumer features off", move along..
12:49 < Alternity> xe0n: bro that's my point, most smaller and even midsize companies are not gonna get ent
12:49 < Alternity> so thats why people complain
12:49 < xe0n> deal with it..
12:49 < Alternity> ?
12:49 < xe0n> i have no sympathy, it's a topic that is such a waste of time lol
12:49 < FenJai> Doesnt enterprise also have those tablet style games included in the install ?
12:49 < xe0n> FenJai: yeah, they're super easy to ignore..
12:49 < Alternity> just run linux
12:50 < xe0n> loll
12:50 < catbeard> u got any gaaames on yo foooone?
12:50 < Alternity> apt-get install candycrush
12:50 < xe0n> loll
12:50 < Alternity> i do love when ppl are like just use chocolety to install all your software
12:50 < catbeard> emerge -s farmville
12:50 < Alternity> gtfo
12:50 < xe0n> loll
12:54 < xe0n> im moving one of our network admins back to helpdesk on friday
12:54 < xe0n> this will be ugly lol
12:54 < FenJai> Ouch. Whys that ?
12:54 < xe0n> he needs to develop his soft and time management skills, and learn to follow tasks through
12:55 < xe0n> he's a good guy, with good intentions, he just cant complete one thing, has way to much going on, does shitty jobs, etc
12:55 < xe0n> young, 23 or so
12:55 < xe0n> and yeah, he shouldn't be that position yet
12:56 < Alternity> how did he get promoted in the first place?
12:57 < xe0n> he's the type of guy who will be working on something, you go "oh dude, when you're free could you do X, it's not important". and me asking that, i know the task will take a few hours at best. so he'll drop everything and do that, and do a shitty job. it's like dude, i said it isnt priority and doesnt need to be done for a week or so, just add it to your task list
12:57 < xe0n> he joined the company to that position, and yeah, silly move by them, but before my time
12:57 < Alternity> tbf i assume you have a decent ticketing system with priority levels that are actually used properly
12:57 < xe0n> everyones cracked the shits, so i rather have him move into a position where he can improve, instead of getting the flick, or a warning
12:58 < xe0n> yeah dude, lol
12:58 < Alternity> i'm in the process of fixing our companies JIRA instance.  Someone thought it would be funny to have a priority system that went to 11....
12:58 < xe0n> LOL
12:58 < xe0n> TURN IT UP TO 11 BRO
12:58 < xe0n> classic
12:58 < xe0n> see this knob, it goes to 11...
12:58 < xe0n> lol
12:58 < humpaxx> What did you just call me?
12:59 < Alternity> funny once, endlessly annoying since we'll get printer broken tickets with a priority of 9
12:59 < catbeard> not to 50!
12:59 < Alternity> a dev will submit a ticket about a prod issue with priority 6
12:59 < Alternity> hmmmm
12:59 < xe0n> i feel for the dude, he's a nice guy, i see plenty of my younger self in him, but he just doesnt get it, no initiative lol
12:59 < FenJai> What ticking systems do you guys use ?
12:59 < Alternity> thankfully i was able to get our COO to approve hiring some atlassian consultants so i don't have to unfuck the thing by myself
13:00 < xe0n> horrible Kayako or something, i dont use it much, i dont work on helpdesk and only get the odd ticket escalated to me. it's geting replaced eventually.
13:06 < xe0n> as much as cw turns into a dog, i kinda miss it lol
13:19 < catbeard> xe0n: exact opposite issue, can't do a thing with all these helpdesk tickets that have to come first
13:19 < catbeard> then they bitch about eng/dev not getting done
13:19 < catbeard> yet they never give me an eng/dev shift, instead i'm manning all departments by myself
13:20 < xe0n> i get involved sometimes, because our helpdesk is sometimes useless, but hey, i try to stay away, i have my own projects and bullshit to deal with lol
13:20 < catbeard> and they're certainly not paying me enough or providing benefits enough for me to attempt to do both
13:24 < xe0n> i just do what i can really lol, i try to not let it get to me. i like a challenge, and i've got it pretty good, considering they head hunted me, paid for my relocation, and let me do my thing, can't complain tbh
13:24 < xe0n> plus i get to see the beach every day now, so winning.
13:26 < Atro> Any windows people have any idea how i can get the Calendar working on a LTSB?
13:26 < xe0n> haha
13:33 < xe0n> you know the answer Atro ;)
13:33 < Atro> xe0n: i don't , im not a windows guy
13:34 < xe0n> you won't like the answer lol
13:41 < humpaxx> Is the calendar app even included in LTSB?
13:42 < xe0n> no
13:42 < xe0n> lol
13:42 < humpaxx> OWA it is then
13:50 < Casteil> You guys have any recommendations for reliable hosts that support ASP.NET / MSSQL?
13:51 < Casteil> my current host has incurred damn near 3 hours of outage this week despite being "cloud based"
13:51 < estranger> Reliable mssql?
13:54 < estranger> 3 is pretty bad though.
13:55 < estranger> Casteil: I'd say azure
13:57 < Casteil> azure's SQL pricing is pretty painful
14:00 < estranger> Get what you pay for :)
14:02 < Casteil> their DB stuff starts at $400 a month
14:02 < estranger> It's enterprise
14:03 < estranger> Not some fly by night that crashes three times a week
14:06 <@cryptic1> morning
14:07 <+MillerBOSS> You weren't at your post last night, Mister, cryptic1.
14:07 <+MillerBOSS> Also +v layer-eight ;)
14:07 <@cryptic1> i have company staying from out of town
14:07 <+MillerBOSS> How is that treating ya?
14:07 <@cryptic1> did something happen
14:08 <+MillerBOSS> Nah
14:08 <+MillerBOSS> Except IRCCloud was down for 3 hours.
14:08 <@cryptic1> better ask for a refund
14:09 <+MillerBOSS> Doesn't bother me but wow probably a good 50 users here use it when it went down
14:10 < Casteil> estranger: azure has outages too buddy
14:11 < chernobylchild69> hey guys
14:11 < chernobylchild69> wagwan
14:11 <+MillerBOSS> But it scales to other clouds with machine learning, and artificial intelligence and artificial reality even too.
14:22 < estranger> Casteil: they had one last week
14:22 < estranger> Casteil: I'm cloud agnostic, but azure prob has the best mssql hosting
14:32 < arlion> Portugal is already up 1.
14:33 <@Code_Man65> So's your mom
14:33 < arlion> that;s good, I have them and russia moving forward out of the cup.
14:33 <@Code_Man65> Sorry, couldn't resist
14:33 < arlion> *out of the group
14:33 < arlion> resistance is futile.
14:34 < vavkamil> message while trying to register to surveymonkey "We can't deliver to role-based email addresses (e.g. admin@). Try your work or personal email address instead." wtf
14:34 <@Code_Man65> That's some bullshit vavkamil
14:34 < arlion> Look at me. I AM the admin.
14:34 < mrghostman> that is annoying AF
14:34 < chernobylchild69> wow thats annoying lol
14:35 < mrghostman> bitch i dont want it tied to MY email, i want it tied to a role
14:35 < arlion> mrghostman+admin@mrghostman.com
14:35 < Nightcinder> hostman
14:35 < chernobylchild69> what if your organization uses first names for emails and you are arabic and your name is "Admin" pronounced "Admeen"
14:35 < chernobylchild69> what now surveymonkey
14:35 < Nightcinder> then you get the first initial lastname
14:36 < Nightcinder> like normal people
14:36 < chernobylchild69> lmao
14:36 < Nightcinder> i always find that weird when people use firstname for emails
14:36 < Nightcinder> like mark@company.com
14:36 < Nightcinder> what if there's a second mark
14:36 <@Code_Man65> Normal is a setting on a dryer
14:36 < Nightcinder> is it mark2@company.com?
14:36 < arlion> Yeah, same.
14:36 < chernobylchild69> well that usually means its a tiny company
14:36 < vavkamil> I'm not even going to register at this point, will use another service
14:36 < mrghostman> look at me, i am the mark now
14:36 < arlion> It's always First.Lastname
14:36 < Nightcinder> we don't do the .
14:37 < chernobylchild69> Code_Man65: :'D
14:37 < arlion> but what if they are indian and you don't know when there first name ends and there last name starts.
14:37 < arlion> amolpatwardhan
14:37 < arlion> ^ real person
14:38 < chernobylchild69> arlion: hahahahaha
14:39 < Nightcinder> then you fire them
14:40 < vavkamil> wow I can use "noreply@" as it isn't a role for them
14:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> got an email from my boss this morning, I'm to ignore all tickets and focus 100% on documentation
14:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol...
14:45 < Casteil> <estranger> Casteil: I'm cloud agnostic, but azure prob has the best mssql hosting < I mean, I'd fucking hope so
14:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> cloud agnostic huh, i like that lol
14:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> estranger: not a fan of cloud stuff?
15:16 < Zearien> Got a site with a slow connection, is there a clean way to cache windows network drives on a server there locally to speed things up? Any one got any ideas?
15:17 <@Code_Man65> Zearien:  That's what Branch Cache is for
15:18 <@Code_Man65> But the clients need to be running Win7/8/10 Enterprise to use it
15:18 < corn266> How often do y'all see AWS EC2 instances get corrupted?
15:19 < abakedapplepie> define corrupted
15:20 < corn266> Let me find the screenshot
15:21 < corn266> Just random reachability check failures and then an unscheduled system reboot aftewards
15:22 < abakedapplepie> first name a last name molpatwardhan
15:22 < abakedapplepie> oh shit i was scrolled up
15:22 < abakedapplepie> lol
15:22 < mrghostman> lol
15:23 < mrghostman> i was like, thats some serious lag there abakedapplepie
15:25 < Hatter> oh good morning I guess
15:26 < abakedapplepie> womp womp
15:26 < abakedapplepie> mornin' eeyore
15:26 < nickster> is anyone familiar with wasabi storage
15:26 < nickster> mornin
15:26 < corn266> i heard it was spicy
15:26 <@Code_Man65> nickster:  I'm pretty sure the Japanese are experts in that
15:26 < Hatter> corn266: leave for 5 minutes
15:26 < nickster> i'm very interested in the S3 compatible pert of it https://wasabi.com/s3-compatible-cloud-storage/
15:26 <+layer-eight> * nickster →  S3-compatible Cloud Storage | Wasabi
15:26 < nickster> says its totally s3 compatible so zfs dataset and snapshots maybe?
15:27 < nickster> free trial is 1tb so i can mess and play without even paying a dime
15:27 < abakedapplepie> lol hot cloud
15:28 < abakedapplepie> idk why i find that term funny
15:28 < abakedapplepie> sounds like a fart
15:28 < nickster> "unlimited free egress"
15:28 < nickster> how does it make money
15:28 < abakedapplepie> dont you hate it when you walk through a hot cloud
15:28 < abakedapplepie> promise the moon and hope that not everyone asks for it
15:29 < nickster> fair
15:29 < abakedapplepie> if 90% of the people never or fairly ever egress
15:29 < nickster> kinda why only a fair few people are the reason why many services no longer offer unlimited storage
15:29 < abakedapplepie> if something can be taken advantage of, someone will take advantage of it until they are told they no longer can
15:29 < abakedapplepie> lol
15:29 < abakedapplepie> its human nature
15:30 <@JollyRgrs> nickster: or unlimited 4G internet
15:30 < abakedapplepie> look at the unlimited 3g sim cards too
15:30 < abakedapplepie> no one uses it anymore but the infrastructure is still there from when half the population did
15:31 < abakedapplepie> now youre able to sell that bandwidth for a pittance
15:31 < abakedapplepie> theyre slow but cheap and decent
15:31 < corn266> the downy red light district...
15:32 < Hatter> my coworkers seem to want no part of my cheekiness this morning
15:33 < asimon> Good morning friends
15:33 < asimon> though its less good than usual
15:33 < Hatter> go on tell us all about your problems
15:34 < DomLS3> Hatter: nobody wants any part of your "cheekiness" any morning
15:34 < asimon> Nothing worth complaining about - just woke up late is all
15:34 < Hatter> why did you put that in quotes
15:35 < asimon> A friend invited me to this: https://apollo18.co.in/
15:36 < corn266> Fucking happy day, I fucked with graphics drivers yesterday and can no longer run pytorch today
15:36 <+layer-eight> * asimon →  Apollo18 - The Most Efficient Cryptocurrency Mining Farm in the GALAXY
15:36 < asimon> I don't know much about coin mining but there are too many buzzwords on that page to make me feel safe about it
15:36 < asimon> Am I way off base?
15:37 < corn266> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it's a dice roll
15:37 < vavkamil> does anybody have a link to windows 7 .iso?
15:37 < plop> `first-seen MillerBOSS
15:37 <+layer-eight> I need someone to look for plop
15:38 < corn266> You got a product key vavkamil
15:38 < vavkamil> corn266, only OA it won't let me download it
15:39 < alazare619> unlimited 3g and unlimited 4g sims are a thing
15:39 < alazare619> ive seen them on facebook these cards that are like 100 bucks 1 time fee unlimited 3g/4g
15:39 < TheLessTraveledR> Mornin' guys!
15:40 <+TuxedoJack> corn266: not quite, get the Heidoc ISO tool
15:40 < corn266> TuxedoJack: wut
15:41 <+TuxedoJack> You don't need a key to download it
15:41 < corn266> vavkamil TuxedoJack
15:41 <+TuxedoJack> https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/technology-science/microsoft/67-microsoft-windows-and-office-iso-download-tool
15:41 <+layer-eight> * TuxedoJack →  Microsoft Windows and Office ISO Download Tool
15:41 < alazare619> https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/technology-science/microsoft/67-microsoft-windows-and-office-iso-download-tool
15:41 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  TuxedoJack → Microsoft Windows and Office ISO Download Tool
15:41 < vavkamil> this page requires key https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows7?
15:41 <+layer-eight> * vavkamil →  Download Windows 7 Disc Images (ISO Files)
15:42 < corn266> vavkamil see TuxedoJack and alazare619 links
15:42 <+TuxedoJack> vavkamil: that tool we just linked bypasses that shit
15:42 <+TuxedoJack> http://www.mediafire.com/file/w031kcr5kb0xm9k/SW_DVD5_Win_Pro_7w_SP1_64BIT_English_-2_MLF_X17-59279.ISO/file
15:42 <+layer-eight> * TuxedoJack →  ⚓  http://download850.mediafire.com/ywn22n0lbfwg/w031kcr5kb0xm9k/SW_DVD5_Win_Pro_7w_SP1_64BIT_English_-2_MLF_X17-59279.ISO → APPLICATION/X-ISO9660-IMAGE Document, 3,183,042,560 bytes
15:43 < alazare619> that tool can get office, windows 7 8 10
15:43 < alazare619> all the diffrent versions etc and it downloads straight from MSFT
15:43 < vavkamil> thank you, I'm on linux so can't use that tool
15:43 < alazare619> sure you can
15:43 < alazare619> wine?
15:43 < syere> I really wish the sim internet plans would get a bit more reasonable. I'd love to take a personal tablet or laptop into work and have my own unmonitored connection
15:43 < Hatter> syere: to do WHAT
15:43 < vavkamil> I'm downloading from a link provided above, thank you TuxedoJack
15:44 < syere> Hatter: talk to friends, watch netflix, check steam titles on sale. We are pretty locked down here
15:44 <+TuxedoJack> vavkamil: NP. I keep a large repository of ISOs on Mediafire, obscure shit too. Comes in handy
15:44 < Hatter> woaah when did this turn into a haven for software pirates
15:44 < corn266> haven? This is the goddamn ship
15:44 <+TuxedoJack> Warp one, Ensign Motherfucker
15:45 < ebol4> yar
15:45 < syere> downloading a windows ISO isn't pirating. they give the iso's away for free. the license is the pirating part
15:45 < Hatter> well the boss is named JollyRgrs
15:45 < Hatter> I suppose you have a point
15:45 < vavkamil> syere, well I don't even need to active it, just need to test some logitech drivers
15:46 < Hatter> he's not even going to activate it he says
15:46 < syere> MS os's are free to use for 180 days I believe. It tells you on the background
15:46 <+TuxedoJack> And even then, you have 3 slmgr /rearms to use
15:48 < syere> I was unaware of that trick
15:51 < syere> Hatter: i'd also like my own connection so I could start taking some of my udemy classes when there's nothing to do at work. There are lots of useful reasons to have your own internet connected device at work
15:51 < Hatter> syere: ok fine I believe you
15:51 < ebol4> ehhhhhhhhhh
15:51 < ebol4> those are reasons to have certain websites unblocked
15:51 < Hatter> ebol4: but we all know the main reason
15:51 < syere> ebol4: apparently, my company doesn't believe in "training on the job"
15:52 < ebol4> welp
15:52 < ebol4> Hatter: he wants to jerk it in the bathroom
15:52 < Hatter> ewwwwww!
15:52 < syere> but then turns around and will be like "why don't you know this?"
15:54 < ebol4> you can download rips of udemy courses at home and then put them on your phone or something
15:54 < niklasye> syere can't you just ssh to home and tunnel your stuff to there? :)
15:55 < syere> niklasye: Technically, yes. But this is almost a complete windows shop. So when I ssh outside, it's noticed super quick on the network team
15:55 < ebol4> they need to calm down
15:55 < ebol4> gotdang, who watches their stuff that closely
15:56 < niklasye> syere ssh to port 443? :)
15:56 < ebol4> yeah there you go lol
15:56 < niklasye> they probably won't see any difference from regular browser traffic
15:56 < syere>  They have their rules. It is their company. And it's IT, it's not like i'll be here forever
15:57 < asimon> Does anyone here manage solidworks on their users computers?
15:57 < syere> They are just stricter here than I am used to. Also not a IT company
15:58 < niklasye> if they allow https they also allow ssh, thats my motto :)
15:58 < niklasye> ssh=anything
15:59 < syere> lol
15:59 < ebol4> if they allow dns then you can run some kind of ssh server over udp even
15:59 < syere> I swear they have every known internal IP scheme used here so I can't even VPN into home. Some super weird rules
16:00 < ebol4> just use public IP space in your home network
16:00 <@JollyRgrs> yeah, you'll never connect to 2.2.2.2
16:00 < syere> The problem is the routing once you are connected
16:00 < syere> say you are running a 10.x.x.x at your house
16:01 < syere> the problem is 10.x.x.x/16 is also running here. As is 192 and 172
16:01 < ebol4> right, just use 2.2.2.0/24 at home
16:01 < syere> wait, what?
16:01 < syere> that's valid?
16:01 < ebol4> you can give your home devices any ip addresses you want
16:01 < ebol4> well, you can give any device and IP you want really
16:01 < syere> right but I thought it had to follow certain octets, or maybe I was just super confused about all of that
16:02 < ebol4> those are standards that people follow
16:02 < ebol4> but you can technically do anything
16:02 < syere> gotcha
16:03 < Hatter> I thought Power BI was part of 365 standard
16:03 < abakedapplepie> ebol4: stop being bad!!!
16:03 < niklasye> ip-ghetto ftw
16:03 < abakedapplepie> syere: is there really no unused protected ip space
16:04 < syere> nope :-/
16:04 < Hatter> what the heck they retired it
16:04 < ebol4> you boys have a lotta devices
16:04 < abakedapplepie> the entire 10.0.0.0/8 is used?
16:04 < abakedapplepie> thats... insane if true
16:04 < abakedapplepie> lol
16:04 < abakedapplepie> sounds more like bad ip config policies
16:04 <@JollyRgrs> syere: good thing if they run 10/16 you have another half of the 10. to use
16:04 < ebol4> so far it sounds like all their policies are bad
16:05 <@JollyRgrs> ^^
16:05 < syere> essentially yes. international company, everything routes back eventually to main office. And that gets done by offices all having a 10.1.x.x then the next getting a 10.2.x.x and so on till they runout
16:05 < syere> then it is the next ip schema
16:05 <@JollyRgrs> think about that broadcast
16:05 < abakedapplepie> so
16:05 < ebol4> that's terrible
16:05 < abakedapplepie> do you have 255 offices
16:05 < ebol4> jesus
16:05 < syere> we have more than 255 vlans....
16:05 < syere> each office has between 5-15 vlans
16:05 <@JollyRgrs> and does each office need 255x255 IPs?
16:05 < abakedapplepie> mother of god
16:06 < abakedapplepie> how many offices do you have though
16:06 < abakedapplepie> or does every vlan have its own subnet....
16:06 < syere> abakedapplepie: im currently aware of (meaning, have seen in paper) 20
16:07 < syere> so every office has a set of vlans. like 10.1.x.x and 10.2.x.x and 10.3.x.x for as many as that office requires. then to make sure routing between all offices works? they just keep going up till it runs out
16:08 < abakedapplepie> that seems dumb
16:08 < abakedapplepie> anyway i really doubt you guys arent using every single subnet available in private ip space
16:10 < syere> Maybe not, but it sure feels like it. I haven't found a in yet
16:10 < abakedapplepie> start from the end... 10.255.255.252/30
16:10 < syere> keep in mind, they'll still provision a vlan for 2 devices in a office
16:16 < McDonaldsWiFi> I work for an electrical contractor... currently. A guy was here explaining how they do live line work on substations.. like 110kv+. I asked him with they have to calibrate their bucket trucks for the massive size of their balls on the way up
16:16 <@JollyRgrs> syere: looks like you're looking for excuses not to figure out how to get your setup to work
16:16 < McDonaldsWiFi> he didn't get teh joke, I looked like an idiot in front of everyone
16:17 < McDonaldsWiFi> kill me pls
16:17 <@JollyRgrs> syere: these situations are EXACTLY how I learned to do stuff
16:17 <@JollyRgrs> McDonaldsWiFi: that's a dumb joke
16:17 < McDonaldsWiFi> i thought it was kinda funny
16:18 <@JollyRgrs> nope
16:18 <@JollyRgrs> you thoguht wrong
16:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> JollyRgrs why do you hate me lately
16:18 < insecurity> i liked that joke
16:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> thanks insecurity
16:18 < insecurity> i laughed
16:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> JollyRgrs is unreasonable
16:18 <@JollyRgrs> insecurity: you just laugh at balls :P
16:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> huehuehue
16:18 <@JollyRgrs> McDonaldsWiFi: i don't hate you
16:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> JollyRgrs: you hate me!
16:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> ;P
16:18 < insecurity> but i want more jokes
16:18 <@JollyRgrs> see? i not-hate you, McDonaldsWiFi
16:18 < insecurity> aah there we go
16:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> damnauto connect isbroke
16:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL not-hate
16:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> so... <|3?
16:19 <@JollyRgrs> !</3
16:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> JollyRgrs: please show your feelings for me in 90s emote form
16:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
16:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> that's actually funny
16:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> like my ball joke
16:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> and winamp porn
16:19 <@JollyRgrs> see? i made you laugh... i know jokes
16:20 <@Code_Man65> I hear winamp really whips the llama's ass
16:20 <@JollyRgrs> it used to
16:20 < Hatter> JollyRgrs: another one please
16:21 <@JollyRgrs> though, i think there was a project recently that revived winamp
16:21 < tapoxi> nerds what are your opinions on electic cars
16:21 < ebol4> they drive
16:21 < Hatter> it still plays mp3s doesn't it? what else do you need
16:21 <@JollyRgrs> Hatter: since McDonaldsWiFi likes ball jokes... here's one
16:21 <@JollyRgrs> Hatter's balls
16:21 <@JollyRgrs> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
16:21 < tapoxi> I'm looking longingly at a chevy bolt
16:21 <@JollyRgrs> eh
16:21 < niklasye> I have a hybrid car, it's really nice to drive on electricity
16:21 <@Code_Man65> But have you ever seen a llama kiss a llama on the llama?
16:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> JollyRgrs: LOL
16:21 <@JollyRgrs> the bolt just never impressed me
16:21 <@JollyRgrs> it looks ugly
16:21 < ebol4> isn't chevy the family diner
16:21 < Hatter> McDonaldsWiFi: don't laugh at that
16:21 < niklasye> it feels so smooth
16:21 <@JollyRgrs> Hatter: lol!
16:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> Hatter: !LOL
16:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> better?
16:22 <@JollyRgrs> ebol4: nothing wron with an impala
16:22 <@Code_Man65> Which is no longer being produced after this model year
16:22 <@JollyRgrs> which is a shame
16:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> our village ruiner, Code_Man65
16:22 <@JollyRgrs> seems all the makers are slimming down
16:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> everyone is slimming down cept yer mom
16:23 < McDonaldsWiFi> huehuehue
16:23 < McDonaldsWiFi> pls clap
16:23 < niklasye> clap
16:23 <@JollyRgrs> mercury stopped making the cougar for a while... they brought it back... but in ruins :(
16:23 <@Code_Man65> JollyRgrs:  The american car producers are conceeding the sedan market to the imports
16:23 <@JollyRgrs> p much :(
16:23 <@JollyRgrs> i mean, that 10 yr 100k warranty...
16:24 < ebol4> luv a good toyota corolla
16:24 < niklasye> tapoxi I would enjoy the hybrid car more if I had a house though, so I could charge it more often
16:24 <@JollyRgrs> ebol4: wtf is wrong with you?
16:24 <@JollyRgrs> you must be short
16:25 < ebol4> a manlet
16:25 < tapoxi> niklasye: plugin hybrid?
16:25 < niklasye> yeah
16:25 <@JollyRgrs> i don't know of any plugin hybrids
16:25 < niklasye> but we have some places nearby where you can charge for free so it's ok
16:25 < tapoxi> niklasye: what is it
16:25 <@JollyRgrs> my mom has a hybrid sonota (great deal, same price as the non-hybrid)... but it is not plug in
16:25 < niklasye> VW passat sportcombi
16:25 < niklasye> 2017
16:25 <@JollyRgrs> that just sounds like a bad car
16:26 < niklasye> it's probably called something else in the states or whatever
16:26 <@Code_Man65> I've got a Q50 3.0t (300 hp version) AWD
16:26 <@Code_Man65> Damn fun to drive
16:26 <@JollyRgrs> niklasye: nah... you said vw passat
16:26 < khelpw> Code_Man65: nice nissan
16:26 <@JollyRgrs> well, you said "vw"
16:27 <@JollyRgrs> that's where i stopped caring
16:27 < niklasye> no fan of vw? :)
16:27 <@Code_Man65> khelpw:  My wife wouldn't let me get the 400hp version
16:28 < khelpw> she wrong af
16:28 < khelpw> Is she driving it?
16:28 <@JollyRgrs> niklasye: no, i worked in geeksquad and drove a few diff models of the new beetles
16:28 < khelpw> Or paying for it?
16:28 <@JollyRgrs> the engineering of the interior alone is awful
16:28 <@Code_Man65> No, but she controls the budget
16:28 <@JollyRgrs> i'm talking about placement/size of sun visors, etc.
16:28 < khelpw> ah. She who controls the budget controls the world
16:28 < syere> JollyRgrs: Just moved across the country four months ago. My home lab is currently in storage, so I can't even really try anything at the moment. Outside of just ssh with my sad sad excuse for a home lab atm.
16:29 < felda> Code_Man65 I've got a sweet bicycle now
16:29 < felda> no truck
16:29 < niklasye> JollyRgrs I see, I never drove a beetle so I wouldn't know, but I quite like the passat
16:29 < felda> but my bike it red
16:29 < felda> s/it/is
16:29 <+layer-eight> [SED felda] but my bike is red
16:29 < felda> it's pretty rad
16:29 < niklasye> but I've never had another car either so I can't really compare
16:29 <@Code_Man65> felda:  Do you listen to Queen's Bicycle Race when you ride it?
16:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> fixed my auto join
16:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> suck it JollyRgrs
16:30 < felda> I got the streamers, little bell, and the card on the spokes to make it sound like a motorcycle
16:30 <@JollyRgrs> felda on his bike: http://geekologie.com/2014/03/06/peewee-herman-bike-for-sale.gif
16:30 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  IMAGE/GIF Document, 510,523 bytes
16:30 < felda> Code_Man65 nah I don't listen to music when I ride so I reduce the changes of getting hit by a car
16:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> yisss
16:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> :(
16:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> Code_Man65: feel better?
16:31 <@Code_Man65> I was doing science McDonaldsWiFi, you can't just declare something without testing
16:31 < Hatter> felda: that's no way to live
16:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> you should trust me 100%
16:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> I'm never wrong
16:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> ask my dog
16:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> she will agree
16:31 <@Code_Man65> We have now throughly tested your autojoin via me kicking you.  Now we must peer review it, so it is JollyRgrs turn for testing.
16:31 < felda> Hatter bikes are cool as fuck
16:31 < felda> also feels good to go fast
16:32 < Hatter> oh a bike
16:32 < Hatter> I've never tried that
16:32 < DomLS3> pfsense
16:32 < DomLS3> opnsense
16:33 < DomLS3> esnesfp
16:33 < DomLS3> just because
16:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> hue
16:33 < felda> ravioli could you kick Code_Man65?  He's spamming kicks
16:33 < felda> BOY
16:33 < asimon> Jesus I leave for like 5 minutes and this is what I come back to
16:33 < syere> so many kicks. How's your foot doing?
16:33 <@cryptic1> oops read that wrong
16:33 < felda> JollyRgrs we need an adult
16:33 <@cryptic1> ravioli, <cryptic1> oops read that wrong
16:34 < DomLS3> cryptic1: can you kick cryptic1 for not being able to fukkin read
16:34 <@Code_Man65> You are just anti-science.  Multiple people must test McDonaldsWiFi autojoin, as it must be peer reviewed.
16:34 <@Code_Man65> Therefore, one of the other ops now has to test his autojoin.
16:34 < DomLS3> Code_Man65: +o me again and I'll test it ;)
16:34 <@Code_Man65> Nay
16:34 < DomLS3> oof
16:34 < DomLS3> he did it
16:34 < DomLS3> lol
16:36 < DomLS3> uhh why did it get so quiet
16:36 <@Code_Man65> Not sure, let me check
16:36 <@Code_Man65> Nope wasn't that
16:36 < ebol4> please kick DomLS3; op ebol4;--
16:37 < DomLS3> asking for op cancels out the kick request
16:37 < alazare619> code man i dont have auto join
16:37 < alazare619> thtas rude
16:37 <@Code_Man65> There alazare619, feel better?
16:38 < DomLS3> how tf did I cause rudeness
16:38 <@Code_Man65> You are the one who triggered the alazare619 kick
16:38 <@Code_Man65> Accept your punishment with dignity
16:38 < DomLS3> Code_Man65: Technically YOU are the root cause of that because you are the one that kicked him
16:38 < DomLS3> saying opnsense wouldn't kick him if you didn
16:38 <@Code_Man65> Nay, I am merely the messenger
16:38 < DomLS3> saying opnsense wouldn't kick him if you didn't have a trigger
16:38 < DomLS3> ha
16:40 < GreyKite> esnesfp
16:40 < DomLSSS3> #loophole
16:40 < GreyKite> heh
16:41 < Nightcinder> heyyy
16:41 < asimon> why can't we all just get back to work
16:41 < Nightcinder> got my steelcase chair
16:41 < DomLSSS3> We need one for GreyKite now
16:41 < DomLSSS3> hmm
16:41 < GreyKite> asimon: because work is slowly killing us inside and this is what we turn to for a brief respite
16:41 < DomZ06> Did everyone know that SonicWall > PFSENSE
16:41  * asimon :/
16:42 < GreyKite> asimon: I'm sorry, are you happy working IT?
16:42 < felda> I have detected some mild trolling coming from DomZ06
16:42 < DomZ06> felda: No trolling at all. That's hard fax
16:42 < ebol4> felda: you are cleared to engage. lethal force authorized
16:42 < asimon> GreyKite: I almost like the IT part of my job more than the engineering part...
16:42 < DomZ06> Code_Man65 felda is just crying troll
16:43 < DomZ06> he should be punished
16:43 < DomZ06> much like crying wolf
16:43 < DomZ06> him and his stoopid pfsense
16:44 < DomZ06> opnsense
16:44 < alazare619> you muda fucka
16:44 < felda> Hot-take: DomZ06 is the Sarah Palin of this channel
16:44 <@Code_Man65> I will give you a chance felda to vote.  Should I mute him?
16:44 < felda> him?
16:44 < DomZ06> pfsense
16:44 < felda> coudl you be more specific?
16:44 <@Code_Man65> DomZ06
16:44 < felda> yeah for sure
16:44 < DomLS3> DomZ06 != DomLS3
16:44 < AnimalFarmPig> why can't I stop buying weird spanish pistols? wallet is sad, brain is happy
16:45 < DomLS3> therefore mute DomZ06 all you want
16:45 < felda> hue
16:45 <@Code_Man65> The vote passed, punishment enacted
16:45 < Hatter> ragequit
16:45 < felda> lmao he tried to login to me
16:45 < felda> I own that nick too
16:45 < felda> lmao
16:46 <@Code_Man65> HAHA
16:46 < mrghostman> lol
16:46 <@Code_Man65> He got nailed by freenode
16:46 < felda> ayyyyyyyyyyyy lmao
16:47 < untangle> lmao I own this too
16:48 < Atro> another shit firewall
16:48 < vyos> get rekt, untangle
16:48 < Atro> just ban $a:felda
16:48 < Atro> ez
16:49 < vyos> HEUHEUEHUEHUEHUEHEUHEUHE
16:49 < vyos> all firewalls are become me
16:50 < AnimalFarmPig> don't forget ClearOS and IPFire
16:50 < AnimalFarmPig> also smoothwall and monowall
16:50 < DomLS3> fuck
16:50 < DomLS3> I got klined
16:50 < vyos> there are so many it will take me a while
16:50 < DomLS3> lmao
16:50 < Hatter> DomLS3: you've embarrassed yourself in front of everyone
16:50 < chodeman_65> vyos: except even openwrt or shorewall has a webui
16:50 < chodeman_65> vyos:  you are shit
16:51 < vyos> there is a vyos GUI side project in the works
16:51 < AnimalFarmPig> export https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_router_and_firewall_distributions to csv, write a script to register them all :)
16:51 <+layer-eight> * AnimalFarmPig →  List of router and firewall distributions - Wikipedia
16:52 < DomLS3> hmm
16:52 < vyatta> I have to find the ones that people care about the most and own them
16:55 < felda> ayyy sonicwall is registered already
16:56 < vavkamil> what would be a better acronym for referrer-policy, RP or RRP?
16:56 < ebol4> why would it be RRP
16:57 < ebol4> unfortunately RP also stands for roleplay
16:57 < AnimalFarmPig> also stands for Ru Paul
16:57 < vavkamil> rrp is confusing, but it's also because of rr in referrer
16:58 <+ihre> rfrrrplc
16:59 < AnimalFarmPig> call it "repo"
17:00 < AnimalFarmPig> REferrer POlicy -> repo
17:01 < AnimalFarmPig> not to be confused with REPU (rotary engine pick-up)
17:02 < FenJai> Ru Paul Charles ?
17:02 < FenJai> AnimalFarmPig ?
17:02 < vavkamil> I mean there is X-Frame-Options (XFO), Content-Security-Policy (CSP), HTTP Strict-Transport-Security (HSTS), X-Content-Type-Options (XCTO), X-XSS-Protection (XXSSP)
17:03 < AnimalFarmPig> FenJai: oh, damn, didn't realize that was just one name
17:04 < AnimalFarmPig> FenJai: yes, that RuPaul
17:04 < FenJai> Google says its technically RuPaul Andre Charles
17:04 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, TIL
17:04 < dragonfleas> hmmmmmmm
17:04 < dragonfleas> so
17:04 < dragonfleas> i have office installed on an image
17:04 < dragonfleas> with a volume license key
17:04 < dragonfleas> but when i image a computer, office isn't activated when it boots up
17:05 < dragonfleas> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
17:06 < abakedapplepie> can i return my coworker
17:06 < abakedapplepie> or upgrade his firmware
17:06 < dragonfleas> Yeah but it will be a 5000 restocking fee
17:06 < abakedapplepie> dude is configuring a telnet wrapper for an erp command line app, he sends me a picture of its error saying bad username or password
17:06 < abakedapplepie> i tell him he probably used the wrong password for auth
17:06 < abakedapplepie> he says he didnt put in a password
17:06 < abakedapplepie> WELL SHIT
17:07 < MikeSpears> lol
17:07 < abakedapplepie> I WONDER WHY IT CANT LOG IN THEN
17:07 < abakedapplepie> GENIUS
17:07 < MikeSpears> abakedapplepie: just set him on fire
17:09 < MikeSpears> or go BOFH on him
17:10 < int0x1C8> `bofh
17:10 <+layer-eight> BOFH Posix compliance problem
17:10 < int0x1C8> these bofh excuses are lame
17:12 < humpaxx> "I can replace you with two lines of code"
17:12 < abakedapplepie> its just the og bofh list afair
17:12 < MikeSpears> you're lame
17:12 < abakedapplepie> `bofh
17:12 <+layer-eight> BOFH Electromagnetic radiation from satellite debris
17:13 < int0x1C8> oh there's a good one
17:13 < int0x1C8> MikeSpears, no u
17:13 < MikeSpears> your mom
17:13 < abakedapplepie> http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~ballard/bofh/excuses
17:13 <+layer-eight> * abakedapplepie →  TEXT/PLAIN Document, 20,630 bytes
17:13 < abakedapplepie> yeah its the og list
17:14 < dragonfleas> is it possible to have office already installed on image?
17:14 < humpaxx> Yes
17:14 < MikeSpears> anything is possible
17:14 < dragonfleas> kk
17:14 < dragonfleas> i just didn't know if it just didn't work or not
17:14 < humpaxx> MikeSpears: You just have to believe in yourself
17:14 < dragonfleas> i'm having to go manually activate office right now on all these computers I imaged
17:14 < humpaxx> dragonfleas: Wich office btw? :p
17:14 < dragonfleas> because for some reason they displayed as activated, but after they got patches installed, they displayed as not activated
17:14 < MikeSpears> every office
17:15 < dragonfleas> office 2010
17:15 < MikeSpears> eww
17:15 < dragonfleas> lol
17:15 < humpaxx> whatyearisit.jpg
17:15 < MikeSpears> why not 2016
17:15 < MikeSpears> lol
17:15 < MikeSpears> or 365
17:15 < dragonfleas> btw i'm brushing off my resume boys
17:15 < syere> about time!
17:15 < int0x1C8> didn't you just move or get a new job?
17:15 < dragonfleas> because my boss isn't giving me a bonus because of the licensing stuff with microsoft
17:15 < int0x1C8> or am I thinking of someone else
17:15 < MikeSpears> dafuq
17:15 < dragonfleas> yeah
17:16 < dragonfleas> he said since it's going to cost so much money out of the budget, that I can't get my yearly bonus this year
17:16 < AnimalFarmPig> bbl, network guy says the token fell out of the ring and he's making everyone help him look
17:16 < syere> sounds like you should get his bonus, as he is the one that messed up
17:16 < dragonfleas> in my head i'm like "yeah I know what that means asshole"
17:17 < int0x1C8> dragonfleas, go over his head to CIO/CEO and propose adopting a pure unix environment, give yourself all the money that would have been spent on microsoft licenses
17:17 < dragonfleas> I've only been here 7 months, I've overhauled the entire backup system, got us on a higher functional level from 2003r2 to 2012r2, I've put us ahead on the curve, there was no patching happening, I know have WSUS deploying patching on all computers and 95% of our PC's are in patch compliance
17:18 < dragonfleas> int0x1C8, that money from the microsoft licensing would be a severance package for me because I don't know anything about linux/unix
17:18 < int0x1C8> exactly, drop it like its hot, and gtfo
17:18 < dragonfleas> also I have a functioning image and deployment services, I've set up automation for user creation
17:18 < int0x1C8> let them deal with it
17:18 < dragonfleas> I've done all of this shit in 7 months BY MYSELF
17:18 < dragonfleas> worked tons of ours
17:19 < dragonfleas> if he was serious about me not getting a bonus i'm going somewhere else, probably dallas
17:19 < dragonfleas> hours*
17:19 < abakedapplepie> lol fuck
17:19 < abakedapplepie> $coworker's dumb moment locked the service account for that program
17:20 < abakedapplepie> took down the service company wide
17:20 < dragonfleas> LOL
17:20 < abakedapplepie> good job
17:20 < dragonfleas> protip
17:20 < dragonfleas> unlock the account
17:20 < abakedapplepie> its been locked since he did that what 15 minutes ago
17:20 < dragonfleas> UNLOCK IT
17:20 < syere> dragonfleas: it could be worse. I've worked jobs like that before. My reward to getting everything into place was to be laid off because the C-levels thought it was automated enough to just be a one man IT shop again.
17:20 < abakedapplepie> so that means for the past 15 minutes hse been trying to figure out why he still couldnt log in
17:20 < abakedapplepie> oh, i unlocked it
17:21 < dragonfleas> syere, well, I am the only IT guy, so that's at least some security
17:21 < dragonfleas> also with what they're paying me, I'm probably the best they can get at this price point
17:21 < dragonfleas> they did pick me over 12 other applicants
17:21 < syere> dragonfleas: eh.. if they are that stupid, I can almost promise  you the thought of outsourced india help is on the table
17:21 < dragonfleas> lol
17:22 < dragonfleas> syere, won't happen, they would have no one onsite and would be fucked
17:22 < ebol4> dragonfleas: that's what i thought at my last job
17:22 < dragonfleas> MSP's are more expensive, that's why they got a on-staff guy
17:22 < syere> But C-levels 16 year old nephew knows computers. they'll just get him!
17:22 < dragonfleas> syere, god, i came from an MSP that had clients like that no joke
17:23 < syere> Oh, that wasn't a joke :)
17:23 < dragonfleas> one time one of the clients brought it his 16 year old nephews computer for some cleaning, and I was like...isn't this personal? and there was like 400 gig of tranny porn
17:23 < dragonfleas> me and all the coworkers busted out the projector and had tranny porn on the wall as we were deleting files
17:24 < ebol4> "y-yeah... this is my uh... nephew's computer..."
17:24 < int0x1C8> haha
17:24 < dragonfleas> ebol4, it was, unless this 60 year old lawyer has a bunch of minecraft mods installed
17:24 < int0x1C8> did you replace the desktop image with a travel agency ad to thailand?
17:24 < int0x1C8> if not, missed opportunity
17:24 < syere> I was a sole-admin at a different place, was seriously under water. Worst infrastructure I had ever come across. I kept asking for a college intern or a jr or anything. So they waited 4 months until summer came and literally brought in their 16 year old nephew as my intern. I swear to you, that C-level and that 16yo both had the same mentality about computers. That they were easy and just anyone could do it! That little shit 
17:24 < syere> first week, I quit after that
17:25 < dragonfleas> syere, so the inept 16 year old, did he at least know not to call a chassis a "CPU" ?
17:26 < syere> dragonfleas: he called servers "pizza boxes"
17:26 < ebol4> LOL
17:26 < dragonfleas> syere, that's actually a technical name dudde
17:26 < ebol4> fuck
17:26 < syere> he got super pissed when he found out he didnt have admin rights on hsi computer to install games
17:26 < officerrando> syere: that's not uncommon. 1u rack mount chassis are sometimes called that.
17:26 < dragonfleas> ^
17:26 < mrghostman> ^^
17:26 < officerrando> ^^^
17:26 < syere> ok, i'll admit that 1u servers have been called pizza boxes
17:26 < ebol4> i have never heard this in my life
17:26 < dragonfleas> in the chassis_type windows .net class, listed in with all of the other chassis types is literally "pizza box"
17:26 < syere> but he referred to everything in a rack as apizza box
17:26 < officerrando> it's a fairly new (last couple years) thing
17:27 < syere> the server? pizza box. the 4u? pizza box. The San? Pizza box
17:27 < officerrando> bahahaha
17:27 < dragonfleas> lol
17:27 < officerrando> hey, synthroid. you're... in me.
17:27 < officerrando> took some of you this morning in fact.
17:27 < mquin> syere: 1u server != pizza box
17:28 < syere> dude unplugged our network once and put it straight to his desktop to get around the web filter. he saw nothing wrong with that
17:28 < mquin> old sun workstation == pizza box
17:28 < MikeSpears> syere: wut
17:28 < dragonfleas> I remember in middle school, I had a computer class, and the teacher kept calling the tower a CPU and I told her "Look, Mrs. Anon, the chassis of the computer that contains the whole thing, is not a CPU, the CPU is inside, attached to the motherboard, it's the central processing unit, that processes all logical instructions"
17:28 < dragonfleas> she kicked me out of class
17:28 < ebol4> 4u is chicago deep dish
17:28 < dragonfleas> for disruption
17:28 < MikeSpears> dragonfleas: dafuq
17:28 < dragonfleas> MikeSpears, that's how schools are in Oklahoma, that's why I dropped out of highschool and got my GED
17:29 < syere> I do remember the phone call I got from that company two weeks after I left. They gave that little shit domain admin and he took down everything
17:29 < MikeSpears> I dropped out and got my GED lol
17:29 < dragonfleas> if you know more than the teachers, they'll kick you out of class
17:29 < officerrando> dragonfleas: i had a class like that in the 90s. teacher ended up asking me questions throughout the class. she was the business dept. chair.
17:29 < MikeSpears> the tech guy kept on getting me suspended for shit I didn't do
17:29 < dragonfleas> the only thing that's important in schools in the midwest is football
17:29 < felda> OOOF my stock market app on android
17:29 < MikeSpears> kept claiming I was hacking the school lol
17:29 < felda> new update aww yis
17:29 < felda> open it up
17:30 < felda> message pops up
17:30 < MikeSpears> because I kept reporting him for violating policies
17:30 < felda> "Sorry I can't keep developing this"
17:30 < dragonfleas> MikeSpears, dude the domain admin pass at my school the teacher had written on a monitor
17:30 < felda> Instantly closes the app
17:30 < felda> app is kill from the android store
17:30 < felda> ;_;
17:30 < felda> WHY YOU DO THIS
17:30 < MikeSpears> felda: kek
17:30 < mrghostman> rip in peace felda
17:30 < dragonfleas> felda, pfsense
17:30 < MikeSpears> felda: make a pfsense app for android
17:30 < felda> MikeSpears what would you have it do?
17:31 < MikeSpears> idk
17:31 < MikeSpears> just say pfsense
17:31 < dragonfleas> MikeSpears, buddy of mine, hacked into the school's domain, found a huge vulnerability and let the school's IT staff know about it, he got expelled and arrested, no joke it was on the news
17:31 <+ihre> no shit
17:32 < officerrando> my friends pushed the car in auto into the school swimming pool. also expelled. also made the news. lol
17:32 <+ihre> he shouldve asked upfront :^)
17:32 < mrghostman> was he the hacker known as 4chan?
17:32 < Hatter> I pwned my high schools entire network, the principal was trying to get me expelled for it but never had any proof
17:32 < MikeSpears> fuuuuu I gotta reboot my laptop
17:32 < syere> you never admit you "hacked" anything. ever.
17:32 < MikeSpears> fucking patches
17:32 < Hatter> I left easter eggs all over the place
17:32 < dragonfleas> felda, i'm requesting a website that has cryptic1's face on a stick figure made out of pfsense and he's running infinitely and is always chasing a stick figure made out of felda, and that felda stick figure is doing parkour over shit and cryptic1 keeps crashing into said obstacles
17:33 < chodeman_65> welp ran into a 20gig pst file
17:33 < chodeman_65> jesus fawk
17:33 <+ihre> truncate -s 0 20g.pst
17:33 < dragonfleas> ^
17:33 < officerrando> chodeman_65: have them delete junk, and compress it. should deflate nicely.
17:34 < dragonfleas> grep -s -p - f -s -e -n -s -e /rp:felda
17:34 < Hatsjoe> or for short "> 20g.pst"
17:35 < dragonfleas> look at the ban list, why is Gencade banned?
17:35 < scwizard> lovely weather eh :gun:
17:35 < Hatter> dragonfleas: mind your own beeswax
17:35 < dragonfleas> also why is abuse_man65 muted?
17:36 < Nightcinder> my boss just killed our ancient voicemail card
17:36 < Nightcinder> ..now we have no autoattendant
17:37 <@Code_Man65> dragonfleas:  Because he deserves to be
17:37 < int0x1C8> scwizard, yeah rain, flooding, more rain
17:37 < int0x1C8> oh did I mention rain?
17:37 < dragonfleas> Code_Man65, that's why they call you abuse_man
17:37 < scwizard> int0x1C8: do you live in austin too?
17:37 < int0x1C8> nah, wisconsin
17:38 < scwizard> hmm probably worse then
17:38 < scwizard> at least the rain isn't freezing here
17:38 < dragonfleas> what did gencade do
17:38 <@Code_Man65> I've been in Plover, WI in the dead of winter with 6' of snow on the ground
17:38 < Abusive_Man65> get rekt bitch
17:39 < Abusive_Man65> wat
17:39 < Abusive_Man65> I was q'd?
17:39 < Abusive_Man65> kik
17:39 <@Code_Man65> You shouldn't have been
17:39 <@Code_Man65> But I was just making sure
17:39 < int0x1C8> on friday last week we got 6" of rain in 3 hours, then another 4" in the same time on monday
17:39 < DomLS3> How noble of you
17:40 < DomLS3> Now +v me and I'll upgrade your noble status to honorable
17:40 < Hatter> DomLS3: why don't you just behave yourself and stay out of trouble, is that so hard?
17:40 <+DomLS3> Hatter: I have behaved myself
17:40 <+DomLS3> :o
17:40 < DomLS3> ALL HAIL THE HONORABLE CODE_MAN65
17:40 < int0x1C8> hah
17:40 < DomLS3> wat
17:40 < DomLS3> I take it back
17:40 < Hatter> DomLS3: and stop begging for +v, it's really embarrassing
17:40 <@Code_Man65> You didn't specify a duration DomLS3, therefore I had to arbitrate the length
17:41 < DomLS3> Code_Man65: It should be permanent
17:41 < Hatter> DomLS3: What would a regular person think if they joined the channel, saw how you were behaving, and that you were also +v
17:41 < Hatter> DomLS3: don't you realize how poorly that could reflect on the channel?
17:42 <@Code_Man65> Sorry, you must route those requests through the maple syrup mafia DomLS3
17:42 < DomLS3> Code_Man65: I shall do so, however I request that Hatter be +q'd for a duration of 1 hour
17:43 <@Code_Man65> That must be approved by cryptic1, as he has been assigned to be the keeper of Hatter today
17:43 < DomLS3> Reasoning: absolute fucking stage 4 cancer
17:43 < Hatter> Code_Man65: I'll take that hour @ 10pm EST tonight
17:45 < chodeman_65> All hail me!
17:46  * JollyRgrs throws hail at chodeman_65
17:46 <@JollyRgrs> i guess the ice helps numb vs jsut bing stoned?
17:47 < chodeman_65> how considerate
17:50 <@JollyRgrs> chodeman_65: how's that allscripts update going?
17:50 <+TuxedoJack> Allscripts update?
17:50 <+TuxedoJack> YOU POOR BASTARD
17:50 < chodeman_65> kick off is july 4th weekend
17:50 <@JollyRgrs> lol
17:50 <@JollyRgrs> funny how i don't have to even be aware
17:50 <@JollyRgrs> but you'll always be in perpetual planning for one
17:50 < chodeman_65> the one after this is the change to the HTML5 one
17:51 < chodeman_65> which will be niceeee
17:51 < chodeman_65> this is just a CU
17:51 <@JollyRgrs> you should really open up that envelope in your desk drawer
17:51 < chodeman_65> the html5 one is a full framework change
17:51 <@JollyRgrs> pretty sure it warns you to just find a new job :P
17:51 < chodeman_65> i'm working on a side business hussle atm
17:51 <@JollyRgrs> chodeman_65: and it only works in Edge, right?
17:51 < chodeman_65> EDGE, Chrome mobile, ff mobile, safari mobile, and all their desktop counterparts
17:52 <@JollyRgrs> does ATM really count as a side business? i thought of it more as a "backend" business
17:52 < chodeman_65> any browser long as it meats html5 compliant standards
17:52 < chodeman_65> JollyRgrs:  -__-
17:52 < chodeman_65> i'm planning and getting things going for a side business i should say
17:53 <@JollyRgrs> but still doing ATM?
17:53 <@JollyRgrs> or something different?
17:53 < chodeman_65> with any luck in 8-12 months it might replace my entire salary
17:53 < chodeman_65> atm = at the moment
17:53 <@JollyRgrs> this i know
17:53 <@JollyRgrs> this i also ignore for hte sake of humor
17:53 < chodeman_65> -_-
17:54 <@JollyRgrs> btw, you got a little *points to upper lip* yeah, right there
17:54 < chodeman_65> but yea with any luck i might be able to leave main job after the html5 upgrade if i'm still not satisified with the way things are going
17:54 <@JollyRgrs> you've been there how long now?
17:54 <@JollyRgrs> more than 2 yrs, right?
17:54 < chodeman_65> going on 4
17:54 <@JollyRgrs> yeah...
17:55 < chodeman_65> unfortunately i moved here for it
17:55 <@JollyRgrs> 4 yrs is only kind of acceptable if you have a major promotion (not just jr to sr admin)
17:55 <@JollyRgrs> oh :(
17:55 < chodeman_65> and there is like nothing near me hiring my skillset
17:55 <@JollyRgrs> #commitment
17:56 <@cryptic1> whoa Code_Man65 is now known as chodeman_65 ?
17:56 <@Code_Man65> Nah, that's alazare619
17:56 < chodeman_65> sush
17:56 < McDonaldsWiFi> looks like chodeman_65 to me
17:56 < chodeman_65> I am the real ChodeMan_65
17:57 <@cryptic1> doesn't seem like it
17:57 < abakedapplepie> Mother nature is scary https://i.imgur.com/5Xn6BWd.jpg
17:57 <+layer-eight> * abakedapplepie →  IMGUR Image → image.jpeg → Image/jpeg → 2 minutes ago → 720x960 → ⚘ 44
17:57 < abakedapplepie> 2" in a minute
17:58 < Casteil> https://www.reddit.com/r/JusticeServed/comments/8shyre/man_saves_store_for_being_robbed/e0zm3em/ oh man lol
17:58 <+layer-eight> * Casteil →  Man saves store for being robbed : JusticeServed
17:59 <@JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: naw dawg, some hood rat just ran over with a bucket of water and poured it on the rain meter
18:00 < abakedapplepie> Lol
18:01 <@JollyRgrs> Casteil: lol, those comments
18:01 <@JollyRgrs> "best pub random team ever"
18:01 < Casteil> yep, comment gold for once
18:01 <@JollyRgrs> "when solo queing actually works out"
18:01 < Casteil> "When he took off his glasses that kid should have known shit was about to get real"
18:01 <@JollyRgrs> yup
18:03 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
18:03 < McDonaldsWiFi> Tex and the deli duo
18:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> :o
18:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> oly 95 to go...
18:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> is this what it feels like to be felda?
18:04 < vinrock> VRD1 TempUpper Non-recoverable127 degrees C
18:04 < vinrock> hmm
18:05 < chodeman_65> and alazare619 when opnsense is said in the room
18:06 < chodeman_65> one day myself and felda will leave this channel for good
18:06 < chodeman_65> you will miss us on that day
18:06 < Hatter> yeah right where would you go
18:07 < felda> McDonaldsWiFi it gets boring fast lmao
18:07 < DomLS3> opnsense
18:07 < DomLS3> Code_Man65 fyi: alazare619 is chodeman_65. GET EM
18:07 < DomLS3> -_-
18:10 < DomLS3> JollyRgrs
18:10 < DomLS3> ima fuk u up
18:10 < DomLS3> hiding behind that +o like a cop behind a badge
18:10 < DomLS3> -o yourself and then fite me see whhat happens
18:10 < JollyRgrs> #FITEME!
18:10 < DomLS3> #donger!
18:12 <+TuxedoJack> TWO NERDS ENTER ONE NERD LEAVES
18:13 < JollyRgrs> REKT
18:13 < DomLS3> RELT
18:13 < JollyRgrs> sit down, son
18:13  * DomLS3 sits down
18:13  * DomLS3 gets back up
18:13 < DomLS3> time for a deathmatch for the men
18:14 < DomLS3> every come watch JollyRgrs get bant
18:15 < DomLS3> 11:15a | [KICK] > ChanServ kicked JollyRgrs :Banned: FUCKING REKT
18:15 < DomLS3> eat my ass JollyRgrs
18:15 < JollyRgrs> nothx
18:15 < JollyRgrs> chodeman_65 has a side business for that if you'd like, though
18:19 < dragonfleas> jeez what the hell happened
18:19 < Nightcinder> this chair is weird
18:19 < Nightcinder> gonna take some getting used to
18:19 < dragonfleas> lmao chode_man65
18:19 < dragonfleas> 10/10 nickname
18:21 < Nightcinder> my back is like constantly cracking now
18:21 < JollyRgrs> Nightcinder: my advice is to sit and rotate
18:21 < JollyRgrs> helps find the perfect position for optimal comfort
18:21 < Nightcinder> i just need to find the optimal position for the lumbar
18:21 < Nightcinder> not used to having one that can move
18:21 < JollyRgrs> heh
18:22 < Nightcinder> it's far more comfy than the previous chair
18:22 < Nightcinder> i'm making an effort to sit more upright too
18:22 < JollyRgrs> ooh, GL with that
18:22 < JollyRgrs> that'll be better for your back
18:22 < JollyRgrs> i have a bad back and i'm terrible at office chair posture
18:22 < Nightcinder> the leap's back makes it a little easier
18:23 < ebol4> oh yeah i used to have a steelcase leap, that was a comfy chair
18:23 < Nightcinder> yeah
18:23 < Nightcinder> it replaced a steelcase think
18:23 < ebol4> now i just have $100 chair from staples
18:23 < Nightcinder> i begged for a gesture
18:23 < Nightcinder> got denied
18:23 < ebol4> oh at work lol
18:23 < Nightcinder> yes at work
18:23 < ebol4> i have like a $30 piece of trash at work
18:23 < ebol4> it sucks
18:23 < Nightcinder> at home i have a shitty dxracer
18:23 < khelpw> I got my girlfriend a steelcase chair for free :D
18:24 < Nightcinder> i intend to give it to my gf when we move in together
18:24 < Nightcinder> andget myself a leap for home
18:24 < khelpw> a steelcase criterion. Got her brother one too from an office across the hall that was closing and tossing their office furniture
18:24 < Popzi> im rockin a red edition blue work office chair, so it has +10 more horsepower so i can slide around faster
18:24 < khelpw> at home I've got a Lay-z-boy "executive" chair
18:24 < khelpw> pretty baller.
18:25 < mrghostman> i have a hand me down herman miller aeron
18:25 < ebol4> i think i'm gonna get an aeron next time i get a chair
18:25 < Nightcinder> aerons were out of my budget
18:25 < Nightcinder> $400 was my budget
18:25 < Nightcinder> aeron with the C base is $525
18:25 < ebol4> you can get used aerons for like $300 i think
18:26 < Nightcinder> oh i go with open box from ebay
18:26 < Nightcinder> the leap is $349 right now
18:26 < Nightcinder> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Steelcase-Leap-Chair-V2-Open-Box-Fully-Loaded-Black-Fabric/121882349228
18:26 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  Steelcase Leap Chair, V2 -Open Box- Fully Loaded Black Fabric   | eBay
18:26 < ebol4> i got my leap used on craigslist for like $250 i think
18:27 < Nightcinder> i'd perosnally rather pay up a few dollars and get an open box new chair
18:27 < JollyRgrs> ebol4: did the seller disclose how many times he wanked in the chair?
18:27 < ebol4> i didn't when i handed it down to my brother
18:27 < ebol4> i got it fresh from a office supply reseller place or something, it had just been reupholstered and stuff
18:28 < Nightcinder> the leap's seat could do with being a bit wider
18:29 < Nightcinder> i do love that you can move the seat
18:29 < eboI4> hurrrdurrr i don't know anything
18:30 < ebol4> i am eboi
18:30 < dragonfleas> eboi
18:30 < Nightcinder> e b o i 4
18:30  * JoIlyRgrs sets ban on e b o i 4
18:30 < ebol4> you can't ban the boi
18:31 < kiIldash9> hello i am every OP now
18:31 < kiIldash9> obey me
18:31 < kiIldash9> or bant
18:32 <@JollyRgrs> what now?
18:32 <@JollyRgrs> :P
18:32 < vinrock> what what
18:32 < vinrock> in da butt
18:32 < AbuseRgrs> reeeeeeeee
18:32 <@JollyRgrs> vinrock: i think AbuseRgrs needs to see that video
18:32 <@JollyRgrs> pls to be the posting
18:33 <@JollyRgrs> .yt samwell what what
18:33 < vinrock> dragonfleas:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU
18:33 <+layer-eight> * vinrock →  YouTube → Samwell - "What What (In the Butt)" → ⚘ 66,721,322 ↑ 219,444 ↓ 92,418 ✍ 102,730
18:33 < dragonfleas> Anybody in here have that weymic 35 universal microphone boom?
18:33 < vinrock> VRD1 and VRD2 on this supermicro board are reading out of bounds high
18:33 < vinrock> never really dug into this box
18:33 < vinrock> it locks up for like 30 seconds at a time intermittently
18:33 < vinrock> hm
18:34 < ebol4> samwell gamgee
18:35 < vinrock> ohhkay well that aint the problem
18:35 < vinrock> "We’ve removed VRD Temp reading since rev2.25."
18:36 < ebol4> what is vrd
18:36 <+ihre> oh Fuck i hate jira and agile and tickets and all the shit surrounding it
18:36 < ebol4> i don't like it when jira calls things epics
18:36 < ebol4> feels like 2009
18:38 < mal_will> It's even more annoying when you use it to manage epic projects
18:38 < mal_will> the EMR
18:48 < MikeSpears> mal_will: switch to intergy
18:48 < MikeSpears> (I'm working at greenway health)
18:48 < mal_will> I'm stuck on eClinical Works
18:48 < MikeSpears> Lame!
18:49 < mal_will> I wish we could go to Epic. You can make some mad bank. It's more for hospitals though. How is intergy?
18:49 < mal_will> Is it a big beast?
18:49 < MikeSpears> Its not bad at all
18:50 < MikeSpears> To be fair, this is only my 3rd day lol
18:51 < MikeSpears> And I'm a contractor
18:51 < MikeSpears> mal_will:
18:52 < int0x1C8> the epic headquarters campus is here in town, the company I work for does their landscaping
18:52 < int0x1C8> the campus is actually really neat
18:53 < abakedapplepie> you do IT for a landscaping company? lol
18:53 < catbeard> better than doing landscaping for an IT company
18:53 < abakedapplepie> are they huge or are they a side contract
18:54 < int0x1C8> they're probably our biggest contract
18:54 < abakedapplepie> thats interesting
18:54 < abakedapplepie> i have about a dozen landscaping contracts but they dont really bring in a whole lot of work
18:55 < int0x1C8> and epic is just one of our big accounts, another is veridian homes, we do all their landscaping/development for all the homes they build
18:55 < MikeSpears> Is their campus epic?
18:55 < int0x1C8> it is actually
18:56 < int0x1C8> their main auditorium is built inside a hill
18:56 < MikeSpears> Lol
18:57 < int0x1C8> most of their parking lot space and even buildings are built into and underground
19:04 < Spr1ng> Does Confluence have a free self-hosted version?
19:05 < Spr1ng> ...and I guess is it a good documentation platform for those that currently use it?
19:05 < programmerq> They have a free trial
19:05 < programmerq> 7 day
19:05 < programmerq> https://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/pricing
19:05 <+layer-eight> * programmerq →  Confluence - Pricing | Atlassian
19:05 < programmerq> it's okay
19:05 <@JollyRgrs> i am opposed to all things atlassian... just b/c
19:06 <@JollyRgrs> lol, not even personal experience
19:06 < Spr1ng> I'm going to take a wild guess that 'its okay' is WAAAAY better than Autotasks non-existent documentation system
19:06 <@JollyRgrs> sounds too close to altiris
19:06 < programmerq> I'd rather use confluence than gdocs or sharepoint
19:07 < programmerq> about 10 years ago, I was on a team that used mediawiki. It worked well enough.
19:07 < programmerq> in any case, it takes a good amount of effort from whoever is running it to install and configure the correct plugins and set up permissions correctly.
19:08 < MikeSpears> confluence is awesome
19:08 < catbeard> mediawiki is more than sufficient, if you know how to power user the fuck out of it
19:08 < MikeSpears> Spring: it's $10 for 10 users
19:09 < programmerq> yeah, power user the fuck out of mediawiki is what we were doing.
19:09 < MikeSpears> :|
19:09 < MikeSpears> mediawiki is ehh
19:09 < catbeard> so much win but also, upgrades.. ehhhh
19:09 < MikeSpears> I much prefer confluence
19:10 < programmerq> confluence is probably easier to get doing, but many atlassian products are difficult to run at high scales. I at least see folks complain about it somewhat frequently.
19:10 < MikeSpears> its not too bad
19:11 < MikeSpears> throw some ram/cpu at it, setup nginx to proxy and it's great
19:11 < MikeSpears> the big thing is setting up nginx
19:11 < catbeard> meh, php -S 172.16.x.x:8000 && cf-warp
19:12 < MikeSpears> hmm never seen that
19:12 < catbeard> not exact commands, just assuming your ticket system is in php
19:12 < catbeard> but cloudflare warp is tits
19:13 < scwizard> so i have a delima
19:13 < scwizard> so I set up an SSH proxy, and the proxy is fine
19:13 < scwizard> I can connect via it via both openssh and putty
19:13 < scwizard> but my boss can't, the problem is clearly on his end
19:13 < MikeSpears> your boss is obviously dumb
19:13 < catbeard> define how you set up your proxy
19:13 < MikeSpears> toss him down an elevator shaft
19:13 <@JollyRgrs> i wouldn't let my boss onto my proxy, either
19:14 <@JollyRgrs> GJ
19:14 < scwizard> so it's like, we need some kinda method to connect to private IPs
19:14 < MikeSpears> vpn....
19:14 < catbeard> if by your boss being unable to connect to proxy, you mean he can't access 127.0.0.1:socks5port
19:14 < scwizard> a VPN works, ssh proxy works and so on
19:14 < catbeard> dood, openvpn ya
19:14 < catbeard> ccd routes
19:14 < catbeard> & iroutes
19:14 < MikeSpears> pulse secure
19:14 < scwizard> but the issue with that is, no matter how I set things up
19:14 < scwizard> there's always room for user error
19:14 < catbeard> gravitational teleport
19:14 <@JollyRgrs> scwizard: duh
19:14 <@JollyRgrs> that's why we invented helpdesk
19:14 < MikeSpears> pulse secure is pretty dope
19:14 < catbeard> connect behind deny all firewalls
19:14 < scwizard> i need some method that's so simple
19:14 < catbeard> using reverse ssh tunnels on top of pki
19:15 < scwizard> that there isn't room for my boss's computer to fuck it up
19:15 < catbeard> with existing access
19:15 <@JollyRgrs> MikeSpears: we almost moved to that
19:15 < MikeSpears> minimal room for fuck ups on the client with pulse secure
19:15 <@JollyRgrs> unless that one renamed OneVPN or whatever
19:15 < scwizard> VPN is too complicated apparently
19:15 < catbeard> logging and term sharing
19:15 < MikeSpears> nope
19:15 < catbeard> scwizard: i'm available for 40 smackers an hour
19:15 < MikeSpears> I use pulse secure on my lab lol
19:15 < MikeSpears> scwizard: toss your boss down the elevator shaft
19:16 < MikeSpears> its simple as that
19:16 < MikeSpears> replace him with someone more compentent
19:16 < catbeard> User Error: Replace User
19:17 < MikeSpears> delete user
19:17 < MikeSpears> rm -rf user
19:17 < corn266> can someone help me find a terminal theme? I thought it was Gruvbox-dark, but the user@host isn't pink / magenta
19:17 < catbeard> or just rename and reset pw
19:17 < catbeard> corn266: check out oh-my-zsh for zsh
19:19 < corn266> none of those are it, it's a specific one that I'm pretty sure came from https://github.com/Mayccoll/Gogh
19:19 <+layer-eight> * corn266 →  GitHub → Mayccoll → Gogh → Color Scheme for Gnome Terminal and Pantheon Terminal → @ ~ 2 days ago → Shell → ✡ 2,243 → Forks: 197 → ☹ 11
19:19 < felda> bought a bundle
19:19 < felda> anyone want a key for Organ Trail?
19:19 < catbeard> Organ or Oregon
19:19 < felda> It's an indie game
19:19 < felda> Organ
19:19 < felda> It's a Zombie take on Oregon Trail
19:20 < felda> I already have a copy so I can't redeem it
19:20 < felda> but I got the whole bundle for $1 so it's all good
19:21 < abakedapplepie> Hmmm  https://i.imgur.com/wwriMIq.jpg
19:21 <+layer-eight> * abakedapplepie →  IMGUR Image → image.jpeg → Image/jpeg → a few seconds ago → 3024x4032 → ⚘ 0
19:22 <@JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: so rule of thumb... the deere ourruns the competition?
19:22 <@JollyRgrs> felda: i'll bite
19:22 < felda> aight I'll PM you
19:22 <@JollyRgrs> thx
19:22 < catbeard> felda: i wonder if there's a gore version called End Trail
19:22 < abakedapplepie> JollyRgrs: wanna know the best part?
19:22 <@JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: yes?
19:22 < abakedapplepie> that sidewalk is in front of a lawnmower repair shop
19:23 < abakedapplepie> they drove right past it
19:23 < felda> basically it's you in your station wagon with your family attempting to escape
19:23 <@JollyRgrs> haha
19:23 < catbeard> felda: so very life-like
19:23 < abakedapplepie> cant make it up
19:23 < abakedapplepie> and its not like the mower is out of gas they drove past that too
19:23 < abakedapplepie> no idea what those fuckin rednecks are up to
19:23 < abakedapplepie> it cant be good tho
19:23 < felda> here's a 60 second trailer for the game  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1FUcNkaLPU
19:24 <+layer-eight> * felda →  YouTube → Organ Trail: Director's Cut Official Trailer [Updated] → ⚘ 40,013 ↑ 122 ↓ 2 ✍ 9
19:24 < catbeard> abakedapplepie: what part of tampa are you in again
19:24 < catbeard> :)
19:24 < abakedapplepie> hah, hahh
19:24 < felda> also if you guys like cheap bundles of games
19:24 < felda> check out fanatical.com
19:25 <@JollyRgrs> felda: lol that looks great
19:25 <@JollyRgrs> i loved naming my family after classmates so they would die and ahve a tombstone
19:28 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuRiAEM6sgE
19:28 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  YouTube → Let's Play ORGAN TRAIL (Co-Optitude w/ Ryon and Felicia Day) → ⚘ 124,269 ↑ 3,350 ↓ 92 ✍ 226
19:34 < chodeman_65> https://www.humblebundle.com/software/cybersecurity-software-bundle?hmb_source=humble_home&hmb_medium=product_tile&hmb_campaign=mosaic_section_1_layout_index_1_layout_type_threes_tile_index_1
19:36 < asimon> The only thing in there that actually looks worth it is the protonmail credit
19:37 < asimon> maybe the dashlane if you use that
19:37 < ny0x> Is Office365 volume licensing a thing?
19:38 < chodeman_65> asimon: id say the proton mail and the spideroak
19:38 < chodeman_65> asimon:  they also have a good book bundle on single board pc's
19:40 < asimon> ny0x: I don't think so
19:41 < asimon> Nvm maybe https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/licensing/product-licensing/office.aspx
19:42 < chodeman_65> the spideroak backup is 1TB service too
19:43 < Hatter> organ trail was pretty fun
19:44 < chodeman_65> for 15 bucks you get VPN for a year (5 devices unlimited useage) Spideroak 1TB
19:44 < chodeman_65> is say the 15 is worth it the others ehh not so much
19:48 < chodeman_65> giant_it_burrit:  cehck out that humble bundle
19:50 < dragonfleas> Does anyone have any instructions on how to back up and restore DHCP roles?
19:51 < Alternity> i'm wondering, do IT departments still do that thing where they have a jr guy read all the reports from the night before?
19:51 < Alternity> at this point i just have my mail filters filter out all the successes that are not flagged
19:51 < Alternity> i remember my first IT jobs forever ago i had to read like 10 emails and look through vsphere to make sure all the VM's were still running (lol)
19:52 < Alternity> every morning*
19:52 < chodeman_65> Alternity:  most automation exists for that sole reason
19:52 < int0x1C8> uh, no?
19:52 < chodeman_65> filter all success
19:52 < chodeman_65> only announce failures
19:52 < AnimalFarmPig> "We use a custom, in-house monitoring system. It's called 'Junior'."
19:53 < Alternity> i remember thinking even back then it was a waste of time
19:53 < Alternity> but i was the jr so i did as i was told
19:54 <+shakygator> QQ on Docker.  If I have a running container, but i have a new image I want to run in it's place, can I just update the container to use that image?  or should i kill and replace
19:57 < dragonfleas> Does anyone know how to create a variable in a unix linux debian box, to concatenate the variable path to the boolean value so you can connect the ip to the mac address?
19:57 < sideup66> 🤩😘😅🤗😍😄🙂😎😃☺️😃😋😚😊😂😙😉😁😀😆😗🤔🤨😐😑😶🙄😏😣😥😮🤐😯😪😫😴😌😛😜😝🤤😒😓😔😕🙃🤑😲☹️🙁😖😞😟😤😢😭😦😧😨😩🤯😬😰😱😳🤪😵😡😠🤬😷🤒🤕🤢🤮🤧😇🤠🤥🤫🤭🧐🤓😈👿🤡👹👺💀☠️👻👽👾🤖💩😺😸😹
19:57 < sideup66> Have some emoji!
19:57 < chodeman_65> :spam:
19:58 < sideup66> Spam spam soammity spam
19:58 <@Code_Man65> shakygator:  Kill and replace
19:58 <@Code_Man65> And sideup66, don't do shit like that
19:58 < sideup66> felda: p f s e n s e
19:58 < dragonfleas> pfsense
19:58 < sideup66> Code_Man65: k
19:58 < int0x1C8> dragonfleas, I think you asked a question, but I can't parse it
19:58 < sideup66> No kick?
19:58 < sideup66> Awwww
19:59 < dragonfleas> ☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺
19:59 < dragonfleas> kick me, go ahead abuse_man65, try to kick me, see what happens
19:59 < Hatter> dragonfleas: well what happens
19:59 < dragonfleas> :(
20:01 < komugi> I keep on wanting to build a pfSense for the home
20:01 < komugi> but
20:01 < komugi> power efficiency-wise, I always go with ER or Mikrotik
20:01 < dragonfleas> https://i.imgur.com/NyGLApx.jpg
20:01 <+layer-eight> * dragonfleas →  IMGUR Image → Image/jpeg → a few seconds ago → 1200x859 → ⚘ 37
20:02 < komugi> is this going to be an image of emojis?
20:02 < dragonfleas> no, even better
20:02 < AnimalFarmPig> I wonder who brought the vuvuzelas to the Iran vs Spain match
20:02 < AnimalFarmPig> I don't think I remember hearing vuvzelas at the Iran vs Morrocco match, must be the Spaniards
20:09 < AnimalFarmPig> oh goddammit, it's the iranians with the vuvuzelas
20:10 < FenJai> I have pfsense sitting behind my ISPs modem. Once I enable bridge mode, do I need to do anything with pfsense ?
20:10 < AnimalFarmPig> might need to reacquire address
20:11 < felda> you might need to tell pfsense to release/renew WAN to pickup the right address if your ISP modem is retarded like mine and tries to hand out an RFC address
20:11 < AnimalFarmPig> just unplug wan port and plug it back in
20:13 < FenJai> Okay, lets see what happens
20:13 < felda> My modem is so janky I have to reboot the modem while pfsense is on and plugged in to pass the public IP to WAN otherwise it switches to retardo mode and tries to do NAT / DHCP and all that
20:13 < DomLS3> s/modem/pfsense
20:13 <+layer-eight> [SED DomLS3/felda] My pfsense is so janky I have to reboot the modem while pfsense is on and plugged in to pass the public IP to WAN otherwise it switches to retardo mode and tries to do NAT / DHCP and all that
20:13 < sideup66> Why are modems so janky
20:13 < DomLS3> good job layer-eight on missing one
20:14 < sideup66> They are like cat poop
20:14 < sideup66> Why do cats poop so much
20:14 < felda> DomLS3 we are actually doing real tech support and here you are trying to throw mayonnaise into the mix
20:14 < felda> sideup66 because you feed your cats too much
20:15 < dragonfleas> was layer-eight updated?
20:16 < DomLS3> felda: "real tech support"
20:16 < sideup66> Really? That means they are overfed? So they just poop
20:17 < gnupluslinux> I'm sorry miss Jackson. I am four eels.  Never meant to make your daughter cry. I am just four fish and not a guy.
20:17 < felda> sideup66 what else are they supposed to do?
20:17 < felda> lmao
20:17 < felda> I mean they can develop cat diabetes
20:17 < sideup66> Get fat
20:17 < felda> cat obesity
20:17 < felda> cat cancer
20:17 < sideup66> Loool
20:17 < felda> it's all bad
20:18 < felda> stop over feeding your cats ya dingus
20:18 < sideup66> Nah my sister's cat is a jerk
20:18 < sideup66> We feed him right
20:21 < FenJai_> So while the hidden bridge mode page exist in my modem, it seems to do nothing
20:21 < AnimalFarmPig> FenJai_: is your modem handing out an RFC1918 address to your router? Or a real, publicly reachable IP?
20:22 < FenJai_> My router has a static IP. I can turn on DHCP but it'll just be handed an internal IP like any other device
20:24 < dragonfleas> Can anyone explain to me the E meme
20:24 < Maarten> That's typically how it works in most consumer environments
20:24 < dragonfleas> with the markiplier farquaad zuckerburg face?
20:25 < corn266> That's the meme
20:26 < Maarten> dragonfleas, http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/lord-farquaad-markiplier-e
20:26 <+layer-eight> * Maarten →  Lord Farquaad / Markiplier E | Know Your Meme
20:26 < FenJai_> The bridged mode is seemingly available to BT business customers. However going to the same settings page displays bridge settings but doesnt actually enable it
20:27 < corn266> dragonfleas, it's about the same as this https://www.reddit.com/r/me_irl/comments/8sgvwi/meirl/
20:27 <+layer-eight> * corn266 →  me🐗irl : me_irl
20:28 < int0x1C8> what
20:28 < ebol4> lol good meme
20:30 < int0x1C8> https://i.redditmedia.com/Zb16pVvss2oBpTgFIgp-o6FPyCBUgdbRC8WjcGFT8oA.jpg?s=487468022203714daec90efab142ced5
20:30 <+layer-eight> * int0x1C8 →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 83,631 bytes
20:30 < int0x1C8> MEEM
20:32 < chodeman_65> no it is not
20:32 < chodeman_65> it litterally says it in the name
20:32 < chodeman_65> its a markup language
20:32 < chodeman_65> if html was a programing language it would be htpl
20:33 < int0x1C8> holy fucking shit, no way!
20:33 < dragonfleas> HTML is not a programming language
20:33 < MikeSpears> fml
20:33 < MikeSpears> im bored af
20:33 < MikeSpears> fucking meeting
20:33 < MikeSpears> lol
20:33 < dragonfleas> it's just a fucking design language
20:34 < MikeSpears> your mom is a design language
20:34 < ebol4> hah! yeah!
20:34 < ebol4> yeah!!!
20:34 < officerrando> hey, anyone use 2012/2016 essentials, and know if you can disable the workstation backup on connected computers?
20:34 < MikeSpears> no
20:34 < MikeSpears> idk
20:34 < ebol4> no!!!
20:34 < MikeSpears> ebol4: do you even know?
20:34 < ebol4> no
20:34 < komugi> officerrando - yes
20:34 < MikeSpears> ebol4: do you know anything? :D
20:35 < komugi> just disable the backup in the dashboard
20:35 < komugi> per computer or entirely
20:35 < ebol4> Answer unclear - ask again later
20:35 < MikeSpears> DISABLE ALL THE BACKUPS
20:35 < MikeSpears> WHO NEEDS BACKUPS
20:35 < officerrando> ok cool. thx.
20:35 < MikeSpears> BACKUPS ARE FOR THE WEAK
20:35 < corn266> hey can i parse HTML with regex
20:35 < officerrando> MikeSpears: people who save their data to the server, which is backed up.
20:35 < AnimalFarmPig> https://lemire.me/blog/2011/03/08/breaking-news-htmlcss-is-turing-complete/
20:35 <+layer-eight> * AnimalFarmPig →  Breaking news: HTML+CSS is Turing complete – Daniel Lemire's blog
20:36 < MikeSpears> yes, you need a potato
20:36 < int0x1C8> NO NEED FOR SYM-PATHY
20:36 < MikeSpears> corn266
20:36 < int0x1C8> IT IS ONLY FOR -- THE WEAK
20:36 < MikeSpears> BACKUPS ARE FOR NERDS
20:36 < komugi> the essential backup is kinda nice
20:36 < AnimalFarmPig> HTML isn't a programming language, but it's one component of turing complete HTML + CSS
20:36 < komugi> saved my ass (not really), but saved me from reinstalling the OS
20:36 < komugi> after I did something stupid
20:36 < int0x1C8> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmCA7EwE3rY
20:36 <+layer-eight> * int0x1C8 →  YouTube → In flames - Only for the Weak [HD] → ⚘ 11,007,888 ↑ 43,474 ↓ 1,319 ✍ 2,405
20:36 < komugi> data loss wasn't a problem
20:36 < int0x1C8> MikeSpears, put that on, blast at full volume
20:36 < MikeSpears> komugi: stop doing stupid things
20:36 < int0x1C8> start windmilling
20:37 < MikeSpears> int0x1C8: in a meeting
20:37 < komugi> I mean, I always try
20:37 < int0x1C8> I know
20:37 < int0x1C8> do it
20:37 < MikeSpears> in a conference room
20:37 < komugi> I don't always succeed
20:37 < MikeSpears> no lol
20:37 < int0x1C8> DO IT
20:37 < MikeSpears> no
20:37 < MikeSpears> no
20:37 < MikeSpears> no
20:37 < MikeSpears> no
20:37 < MikeSpears> no
20:37 < MikeSpears> no
20:37 < int0x1C8> fine :/
20:37 < MikeSpears> no
20:37 < MikeSpears> no
20:37 < dragonfleas> Number 15, burger king foot lettuce, the last thing you'd want, in your burger king burger, is someone's foot fungus, but as it turns out, it might be what you GAAEEET
20:37 < MikeSpears> " Your actions in #reddit-sysadmin tripped automated anti-spam measures (flood detected), but were ignored based on your time in channel; stop now, or automated action will still be taken. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact a member of staff"
20:37 < MikeSpears> lol
20:38 < dragonfleas> Code_Man65, can we get a ban on MikeSpears
20:38 < MikeSpears> JollyRgrs: pls halp
20:39 < int0x1C8> ON BLEEDING KNEES
20:39 < int0x1C8> I ACCEPT MY FATE
20:39 < corn266> help us Code_Man65 you're our only hope
20:39  * MikeSpears shoots int0x1C8 in the dick
20:39 < int0x1C8> no
20:39 < MikeSpears> already done
20:40 < int0x1C8> nop
20:40 < MikeSpears> lol
20:41 < int0x1C8> oh god, my coworkers all looked at me when I couldn't stop laughing
20:41 < int0x1C8> https://i.redditmedia.com/xFDY77-M0xf5zG-pf9Mc5GqxTlujc6xdkV2SsbWwaRI.jpg?s=3844f20fb3a8c76f1eacd4acb8cd9c39
20:41 <+layer-eight> * int0x1C8 →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 54,654 bytes
20:42 < corn266> So that's why javascript looks like how autistic screeching sounds
20:43 < int0x1C8> javascript === autistic screeching
20:45 < MikeSpears> corn266: do you have the autisms?
20:45 < FenJai_> Is there such a thing as a coax and adsl modem ?
20:46 < MikeSpears> maybe
20:46 < MikeSpears> if you take a coax modem, and a dsl modem, then glue them together, you'd have a DSL/Cable Modem :)
20:47 < StrongBad> any 365 users about? I'm migrating users from one domain to another---got everything working well except outlook calendar sharing seems to have broken when I changed user accounts. Same account and everything but all the calendars she had shared with her are now missing. Does 365/Outlook do calendaring locally or what?
20:47 < StrongBad> they're all still there under permissions
20:47 < MikeSpears> StrongBad: call Microsoft
20:47 < MikeSpears> they're your friend
20:47 < chodeman_65> MikeSpears:  funny note, had a buddy that built modems into pc cases
20:48 < StrongBad> by "same account" i mean same 365 account, different user account logging in to the PC
20:48 < MikeSpears> just call microsuck
20:48 < Maarten> FenJai_, there are AT&T gateways for U-Verse that do xDSL and have coax for their U-Verse TV platform..... but it's only used if their vDSL product is used.
20:48 < chodeman_65> because most modems use 12v at 1.5A he just tied directly into the  psu and would put a modem / router into the pc's
20:49 <+ihre> FenJai_: one is ATM, the other is DOCSIS
20:49 < Hatter> oh shit it's wednesday
20:49 < Hatter> I've been on tuesday all day until now
20:49 < Hatter> pretty nice feeling
20:49 < FenJai_> Hmmm. Im just thinking of a box I can use instead of MY ISP's modem. However I dont want to buy something new every year or two
20:49 < Hatter> but what does that say about how I'm living my life? when I so gladly lose a day?
20:49 <+ihre> why would you switch isp every year or two ? :P
20:50 <+ihre> in any case, most often you can put both in a bridged mode
20:50 <+ihre> and have a device behind it handle the actual routing
20:50 < MikeSpears> ihre: price
20:50 <+ihre> 3fiddy
20:50 < MikeSpears> promo goes up on one isp, switch
20:51 < MikeSpears> then vice versa
20:51 <+ihre> oh, fuck that
20:51 <+ihre> i'll rather nave no downtime than saving 30$ a year
20:51 < MikeSpears> ihre: you're no fun
20:51 < Maarten> FenJai_, separate your internal LAN, Firewall and Wifi from whatever your ISP needs you to use. I have a PFSense firewall, 2 Ubiquiti Unifi AP's..... and I could switch provider if I wanted to and just hook up to whatever modem they need me to use and my network wouldn't change.
20:51 < MikeSpears> I'm suspecting he's meaning at home
20:51 <+ihre> ^ either bridged or PPPoE
20:51 < Maarten> MikeSpears, that is my home setup ;)
20:52 < Maarten> I don't use consumer crap routers.... :P
20:52 < FenJai_> Maarten, is your pfsense on the DMZ for your modem ?
20:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> you mean you don't use wrt54Gs in production? Maarten
20:53 <+ihre> he's not MickeyD's McDonaldsWiFi
20:53 < MikeSpears> lol
20:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> shots fired
20:53 < Hatter> lol I'm eating strawberry gelato
20:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> what a fucking gay thing to eat
20:54 < Maarten> basically.... in my case I had to setup a cascaded router function due to the way AT&T requires you to use their gateway for authentication. But all traffic is forwarded to my PFSense, and that is the wall between my internal lan and the world. I don't use any functionalities on the AT&T gateway and wifi is disabled on it.
20:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> jk i love you Hatter
20:54 <+ihre> FenJai_: at the moment, I have an ERL in the DMZ behind a coax(docsis) modem
20:54 < Hatter> McDonaldsWiFi: you can't say things like that anymore
20:54 <+ihre> which works fine
20:54 < MikeSpears> McDonaldsWifi: we know you only eat mcdonalds
20:54 <+ihre> the same goes for fiber/adsl though
20:54 < FenJai_> ERL ?
20:55 <+ihre> edgerouter lite
20:55 < FenJai_> Fancy
20:55 < McDonaldsWiFi> Hatter: why not?
20:55 <+ihre> not really
20:55 <+ihre> 90$, pretty good investment
20:55 < McDonaldsWiFi> JFDkthx might get offended?
20:56 < Hatter> McDonaldsWiFi: because it's been fine to be gay for years now, and it's no longer proper to use as a derogatory term
20:56 <+ihre> accepts SODIMM for upgrades
20:56 < Maarten> I have a USG lying around, but it's lacking features.... PFSense suits me better.
20:56 < FenJai_> I ahve my pfsense box in my modem's DMZ but I dont think it turns off the firewall properly
20:56 < McDonaldsWiFi> Hatter: maybe I was calling it gay because the strawberry gelato identifies as gay?
20:56 <+ihre> b-b-b-ut those fancy graphs on your unifi dash
20:56 < MikeSpears> Maarten: give me the USG for free
20:57 < Hatter> McDonaldsWiFi: well it is a little bit gay I admit, but don't say "fucking gay thing", that's a bit much
20:57 < Maarten> go buy yer own :P I'll use it again some day.... when the firmware matures a bit more, and their controllers have the features I need.
20:57 < MikeSpears> fucking PC police
20:57 < MikeSpears> Hatter is PC polic
20:57 < MikeSpears> police*
20:57 < McDonaldsWiFi> Hatter: no PC pls
20:57 < MikeSpears> PC POLICE
20:57 <+ihre> s/PC/CP
20:57 <+layer-eight> [SED ihre/MikeSpears] CP POLICE
20:57 < McDonaldsWiFi> I still stay retarded outlout irl.. am I a bad guy?
20:58 < Hatter> McDonaldsWiFi: yes don't say that anymore, say down syndrome from now on
20:58 < SynMonger> wee woo wee woo *PULL OVER*
20:58 < McDonaldsWiFi> you guys remember that one guy who came in here asking us how to securely host his CP?
20:58 < McDonaldsWiFi> shit was turble
20:58 < McDonaldsWiFi> Hatter: can't tell if srs
20:58 < McDonaldsWiFi> well he neer out and said CP... but the implications
20:58 < Hatter> nor can I have half the time
20:58 < Hatter> -have
20:58 < xamithan> Did you direct him to tor hidden services?
20:58 < corn266> I fucking hate having my desk facing the wall, my coworkers keep scaring the shit out of me
20:59 < MikeSpears> have you tried rebooting
20:59 <+ihre> corn266: use tripwires
20:59 <+ihre> some nailbombs
20:59 < corn266> claymores too difficult to get?
21:00 <+ihre> brb ordering a 5pack of claymores @ amazon
21:02 < dragonfleas> McDonaldsWiFi, wait someone came in here asking how to host child porn? what the fuck?
21:02 < dragonfleas> that's stinky as fuck
21:02 < Hatter> stinky?
21:02 < Hatter> is that what the kids are saying now?
21:02 < dragonfleas> Hatter, transgendered people aren't real, there's only 2 genders
21:03 < Hatter> dragonfleas: that's a controversial statement
21:03 < dragonfleas> e d g y
21:03 < Hatter> but I agree, most of them are just mentally ill
21:03 < dragonfleas> I thought you were the PC police :(
21:03 < Hatter> oh right
21:03 < Hatter> sorry about that
21:03 < McDonaldsWiFi> dragonfleas: it was more descrete than that
21:03 < McDonaldsWiFi> he was asking how to host something securely and whatnot
21:04 <+ihre> base64 encoded on pastebin
21:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> after like an hour it started to become clear what he wanted to do
21:04 < xamithan> He was asking how to host cheese pizza
21:04 < dragonfleas> McDonaldsWiFi, yeah wouldn't hosting a .onion site be discrete?
21:04 < Hatter> I bet at least one person helped him
21:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> we all did at first til it got weird
21:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> and he kept asking weird shit
21:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> i bet it's been almost a year now
21:04 < Hatter> why didn't you or anyone go after him?
21:04 < scwizard> wow
21:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> because its IRC and its anon?
21:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
21:05 < scwizard> terraform doesn't support multiple CIDR blocks per VPC
21:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> he never outright said "im hosting CP"
21:05 < Hatter> that wouldn't have stopped me
21:05 <+ihre> I HAVE YOUR IP! ! ! ! DDOSSING CALLING THE COPS HACKING
21:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> shit i wish someone else remembered
21:05 < Hatter> ihre: are you mocking me? I don't appreciate that
21:05 <+ihre> if its a  year ago i have it logged
21:05 <+ihre> but what to grep for .. ?
21:06 < McDonaldsWiFi> no idea now
21:06 < McDonaldsWiFi> I'm asking someone else I think was there lol
21:06 < McDonaldsWiFi> 1 sec
21:06 < McDonaldsWiFi> im curious now
21:06 < scwizard> this means if you do everything through terraform you're locked to 65,536 IPs kinda
21:06 < scwizard> without giving yourself a headache
21:06 < scwizard> that's fake and gay
21:06 < Hatter> ihre: would you mind grepping for my name and show me every comment outside of 9-5EST
21:06 < McDonaldsWiFi> damn they din't remember
21:06 <+ihre> Hatter: Yes i would mind
21:06 < McDonaldsWiFi> ihre: grep for CP
21:06 < McDonaldsWiFi> or even the fully typed up version
21:06 < McDonaldsWiFi> xD
21:06 < Hatter> McDonaldsWiFi: we talk about that at least twice a day
21:06 < FenJai_> When setting up port forwarding on pfsense, what do I do if an application is running on two separate hosts and I cant change the ports which the application uses ?
21:07 < McDonaldsWiFi> Hatter: so you remember it?!
21:07 < Hatter> no I meant in general
21:07 < Hatter> nevermind
21:07 < Hatter> I'm pretty new here, but feel I've made a strong impact in a short amount of time
21:07 < McDonaldsWiFi> FenJai_: what app is it?
21:07 < McDonaldsWiFi> Hatter: you've been here longer than me... Theo
21:07 < Hatter> the heck you say
21:07 < kepler> FenJai_: load balance it
21:07 < McDonaldsWiFi> THEO THEO THEO
21:08 < FenJai_> McDonaldsWiFi, Destiny 2
21:08 < Hatter> I do struggle with the perception of time
21:08 < syere> i've been on and off here for at least the last eight years. I've made 0 impact :)
21:08 < Hatter> it's always tea time for me
21:08 <+ihre> FenJai_: https://www.netgate.com/docs/pfsense/loadbalancing/inbound-load-balancing.html
21:08 <+layer-eight> * ihre →  Services — Server Load Balancing — Configuring Inbound Load Balancing | pfSense Documentation
21:08 < FenJai_> If bot my BF and I are playing the same game which needs port forwading configured, wont only 1 host be properly set up ?
21:08 < kepler> FenJai_: oh, you want to play a game -- upnp should handle that
21:08 < Hatter> FenJai_: you're what
21:08 < kepler> why do you need port forwarding?
21:08 < kepler> enable upnp and nat-pnp or w/e
21:09 < rootsudo> Fuck
21:09 < rootsudo> I need professional references
21:09 < rhqq> :P
21:09 < McDonaldsWiFi> where as rkeene been..?
21:09 < McDonaldsWiFi> has*
21:09 <+ihre> locked up by DoD
21:09 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
21:10 <+ihre> he created a backdoor in their pkcs12 tcl implementation
21:10 < McDonaldsWiFi> if you say tcl 3 times rkeene will appear
21:11 < McDonaldsWiFi> same for pfsense and felda
21:11 < rhqq> morning guys
21:12 < Hatter> rhqq: where are you, hawaii?
21:12 < rhqq> nah, CA
21:12 < rhqq> just... just got up
21:13 <@JollyRgrs> rhqq: dang, 2nd shifter?
21:13 <@JollyRgrs> McDonaldsWiFi: say TCL?
21:14 < rhqq> technically im at work from 7am localtime, (10am ny)
21:14 < rhqq> but i didnt feel like it
21:14 < McDonaldsWiFi> yes
21:14 < rootsudo> I need to find interesting IT work
21:14 < rhqq> yesterdays hike wrecked me xD
21:14 <@JollyRgrs> McDonaldsWiFi: wait, I don't understand, saying Perl won't bring him out?
21:14 < rhqq> so i'll just catch up with shit over the day
21:15 <@JollyRgrs> must be nice to waltz in at noon to your job
21:15 <@JollyRgrs> i was working until 8:30pm yesterday, then answered an email at like 1:00 and 1:30am, then was lazy and came in just after 9
21:15 <@JollyRgrs> :(
21:15 < rhqq> no alerts, rest is task-based
21:16 < officerrando> haha, saw this on a friend's fb: https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35647326_10212551546287207_1777688591607005184_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=d432f5485f63850e9627e41d6d215df9&oe=5B9F8B19
21:16 <+layer-eight> * officerrando →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 42,439 bytes
21:16 <@JollyRgrs> officerrando: i don't know military, but i still get it
21:16 <@JollyRgrs> what exactly does that stand for though? i'm curious now
21:16  * officerrando is former air force
21:16 <+ihre> asvab?
21:17 <@JollyRgrs> so a pansy who thinks he's better than the other arms?
21:17 <@JollyRgrs> yeah
21:17 < FenJai_> kepler, I should have both upnp and port forwarding configured, right ? upnp on its own wont suffice
21:17 < officerrando> armed services vocational aptitude battery
21:17 < kepler> it works for me
21:17 <@JollyRgrs> gotcha... so military SAT test
21:17 <+ihre> FenJai_: upnp should suffice
21:17 < officerrando> it's a smarts test to join the military. each branch has their own score requirements
21:17 <@JollyRgrs> same test, with diff. min. requirements?
21:17 < officerrando> AF is the highest, army is the lowest.
21:17 <+ihre> it requests ports to be forwarded, dynamically
21:17 <@JollyRgrs> lol
21:18 <@JollyRgrs> but i guess that certain parts of each branch... like green berets are not so low
21:19 < officerrando> maybe i'm wrong. af is 36, coast guard is 50!, army is 31, navy is 35, marines is 32
21:19 < officerrando> i got a 78
21:19 < Hatter> braggart
21:20 < ebol4> 78 out of 100
21:20 < ebol4> ?
21:20 < corn266> how many questions are there to get a 50 factorial
21:20 < officerrando> yes
21:20 < FenJai_> ihre, it doesnt seem to be enough. Destiny complains Im behind a strict NAT but Im not 100% sure if my modem is properly putting my pfsense box in the DMZ
21:20 < Hatter> FenJai_: Want to join my Destiny 2 clan?
21:20 < officerrando> most branches break them down into 4 diff. categories. electrical, mechanical, admin, general.
21:20 < ebol4> i kind of want to take this test
21:20 < ebol4> but i also don't want to join the military
21:20 < officerrando> i bombed the math part. i r not math smrt
21:21 < officerrando> you can take practice tests. they're pretty accurate. the test doesn't change much. i studied for it
21:21 < syere> damn, I feel sick as hell. 50/50 on if im going to get sick or not. Kinda want to take the rest of the day off, but it's only another two and a half hours
21:21 < FenJai_> If I can get this nat properly working Hatter, sure
21:21 < ebol4> just go home
21:21 < mal_will> So, I fel cray. I've contacted 4 vendors. I explained yes, I want hardware 2FA tokens. This is how many users, and I have a weird setup, so I need to confirm your solution will work with my setup. I have been told 4 times to just order the devices online and that I can watch the demos if I need more info. Duo has the dumbest fucking demos. Is it archaic to get more than one bid, and pay via invoice instead of credit
21:21 < mal_will> card, and to have someone actually try to sell you a product?
21:21 < ebol4> if you're not going to go home then at least cough on other people's keyboards so they can go home
21:22 < mal_will> sneeze everywhere
21:22 < AnimalFarmPig> <--- 99 on the ASVAB
21:22 < AnimalFarmPig> :P
21:22 < mal_will> spread the love
21:22 < syere> ebol4: wrong kind of sick
21:22 < officerrando> well done.
21:23 < Hatter> he's got a bit of a tummy ache
21:23 < vinrock> mal_will no its still normal
21:23 < ebol4> mal_will: do they have like, technical sales people or are you just getting their 18 year-old dudes
21:23 < vinrock> i guess little shit companies dont know that
21:23 < syere> im not sure if the food was bad or the heat got to me
21:23 < officerrando> i only remember 2 of my sub scores. 99 mechanical, 90 electrical
21:23 < mal_will> This dude was defs 18. I explained this to him twice and he's like, maried to me doing cloud aps with 2FA
21:23 < officerrando> i think 88 in admin.
21:24 < vinrock> thats racist
21:24 < mal_will> Why is my keyboard so fucky today, got dang!
21:24 < aName> I'm trying to do "net localgroup Administrators username /add" and it keeps telling me the user doesn't exist, when it plainly does. Wat do?
21:25 < vinrock> put it in quotes?
21:25 < aName> "username" ? Tried that
21:26 < dragonfleas> Ok, microsoft gave us 5000 dollars in free azure since we're non profit, what should I do with it?
21:26 < vinrock> hm
21:26 < aName> dragonfleas: Mine BTC =p
21:26 < dragonfleas> 5000 for one year
21:26 < dragonfleas> aName, only serious replies pls
21:26 < vinrock> https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/solutions/gaming/
21:26 <@cryptic1> spend it on bingbucks
21:26 < vinrock> that
21:26 <+layer-eight> * vinrock →  Azure Gaming – Cloud Game Development | Microsoft Azure
21:27 < vinrock> get yo game on
21:27 < officerrando> can you convert Azure dollars to Schrute Bucks?
21:28 < asimon> aName: Does the username show up exactly as you type it when listed using ">net user"
21:28 < dragonfleas> what the fuck are bing butts lmao
21:29 < ebol4> i believe sir mix a lot made a song about those
21:30 < aName> asimon: Yeah
21:30 < asimon> aName: is capslock on
21:30 < int0x1C8> LA face with an oakland booty
21:30 < aName> asimon: lol no
21:31 < asimon> hey you never know
21:31 < asimon> I spent 3 hours today on a bug that turned out to be me overriding an import from a dumb copy/paste error
21:33 < Spr1ng> congrats and welcome to the n00b club
21:33 < aName> asimon: Oh yeah I Hear ya - before it wasn't working because \!=/
21:33 < aName> asimon: But caps lock is not the issue here lol
21:34 < hexanubis> two days ago i spend 3 hours trying to debug a httpd issue ... before remembering that i just spent an entire day one week earlier on the same issue ...
21:34 < hexanubis> the first time i refused to document the solution because "i'll remember it; noo waaay i'm forgetting this"
21:34 < asimon> Spr1ng: ty ty https://imgur.com/a/EwLYnNw
21:34 <+layer-eight> * asimon →  IMGUR Album → a few seconds ago → 1 Image → ⚘ 0
21:35 < aName> hexanubis: lol I learned early on that this is EXACTLY when you document it
21:35 < ktrl> how to registar to chanel
21:35 < ktrl> ?
21:35 < aName>  /msg nickserv help
21:36 < hexanubis> @aName, yeah, now it's in our internal wiki. Hope no one else looses time on the same thing
21:37 < aName> hexanubis: I had this one issue that took me a couple days to figure out once - turned out that there's a directory symantec error reporting tries to write to, and if it doesn't have permissions on it it errors out.... you can see how this might become a problem
21:37 < aName> But it presents as 'screen keeps flashing and selecting a different window'
21:37 < aName> First time took me three days. Second time took three minutes.... and two of that was me remembering this isuse
21:37 < aName> *issue
21:38 < aName> But 'The specified account does not exist" omfg fuck yourself windows
21:38 < genr8_> gotta love cryptic errors and windows always trying to hide the actual debug information from you
21:38 < hexanubis> aName, mine was really stupid ... a rhel5 to rhel7 migration. Copied the conf, everything is allright; i can launch my httpd -f conf with no problems. But using the systemd unit file ? forget it ! Systemd goes into timeout and just shuts down the instance
21:39 < rootsudo> fuck
21:39 < rootsudo> I think I like being in help desk more than sysadmin
21:39 < genr8_> ive been looking into memory dumps, stack traces and .NET debugging lately
21:39 < rootsudo> genr8_ that sounds like fun
21:39 < genr8_> its not. we shoulda just had strace
21:39 < rootsudo> asimon as long as it's billable hours right
21:39 < asimon> rootsudo: you bet your ass youre right
21:39 < hexanubis> aName, the "trick" is that you have to import a new systemd module for your httpd instances, so that i imagine httpd could talk back to the init and say "hey i'm all set, you can go now"
21:43 < rootsudo> I canceled the google interview
21:44 < felda> are you guys excited for what the EU has in store for the Internet?
21:44 < felda> https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/eu-article-11-13-latest-gdpr-link-tax-internet-juri-censorship-a8407566.html
21:44 <+layer-eight> * felda →  EU committee approves new rules that could 'destroy the internet as we know it' | The Independent
21:45 < felda> Article 13 requires that all websites check posts against a database of copyrighted work, and remove those that are flagged.
21:45 < corn266> Means American will take her place as forefront of culture through memes
21:46 < asimon> That copyright thing seems totally unrealistic
21:46 < felda> Article 11 introduces a "link tax", requiring that internet companies get permission from publishers to use a snippet of their work. On websites like Google and Twitter, for instance, a small part of the article is usually shown before someone clicks into it entirely – but, under the new rule, those technology companies would have get permission and perhaps even pay to use that excerpt.
21:46 < aName> OK this issue is going to drive me insane
21:47 < Nightcinder> Sorry, Comcast: Fox and Disney sign new merger deal, rejecting Comcast bid
21:47 < Nightcinder> Fox accepts Disney's $71.3 billion offer, days after Comcast bid $65 billion.
21:47 < corn266> (ministry of entertainment)
21:47 < vinrock> fuck comcast
21:47 < vinrock> chargin' so much for their garbage internet service
21:47 < vinrock> $85/mo for 75/10
21:47 < vinrock> pff
21:48 < Nightcinder> i pay $80 for 1000/1000
21:48 < kepler> same
21:48 < vinrock> well over here we get fucked in the ass
21:48 < vinrock> v0v
21:48 < Nightcinder> Under the amended acquisition agreement announced today, Disney would buy Fox for $71.3 billion in cash and stock. This comes one week after Comcast offered Fox $65 billion in cash, which topped Disney's previous deal to buy Fox for $52.4 billion in stock.
21:48 < felda> vinrock i get those speeds for $35
21:48 < kepler> i wanna get that comcast 2gb up/down service tho
21:48 < vinrock> you guys talkin actual price or some 1yr special offer price
21:48 < vinrock> im paying like $60/mo for 200 right now ands they keep calling me saying that was only promotional
21:49 < vinrock> for $60/mo my 200 goes down to 15
21:49 < genr8_> wtfff no
21:49 < genr8_> the 200mb plan is the real plan
21:50 < genr8_> all you have to do is re-sign up for another 2 year promotional plan or threaten to cancel
21:50 < vinrock> its the price im pay8ing, $60/mo for 200 was apparently just good for 12mos then the price shoots up to over $100/mo unless i take one of their offers i cant refuse
21:50 < vinrock> thats what i intend on doing
21:50 < vinrock> i love my neighborhood but only having comcast is gona force me to move next year i bet
21:50 < genr8_> yeah that is bunk
21:50 < corn266> vinrock, that's what mine did went from $60 a month for 250/30 to $100
21:50 < genr8_> just so used to it by now
21:51 < vinrock> ive had fios since it first came out, moved last july and only have comcast where im at now
21:51 < vinrock> jaysus christ it sucks a butt
21:51 < chodeman_65> I pay 70 for gig fiber kek
21:51 < vinrock> speeds fluctuate like crazy, abysmal uplink speed, expensive af
21:52 < vinrock> im paying $250/mo for gig fiber business fios with 1 static
21:52 < vinrock> here at this office
21:52 < chodeman_65> My ups only 10 but I don't up
21:53 < syere> ah shit. I spaced on looking at internet options at my new place. guess I gotta do that this week as well
21:53 < int0x1C8> か
21:54 < Hatter> felda: why are you reading those british tabloids
21:58 < corn266> wtf I install cuda, and I install the version of pytorch compatible with cuda, and torch.cuda.is_available() returns false. I don't install cuda or the pytorch compatible with cuda and get true
21:58 < corn266> what is this fresh hell
21:59 < genr8_> distro specific ? Compile options you missed ?
21:59 < corn266> Hooked by apt
22:02 < int0x1C8> welp either he melted his gpu or he figured it out
22:02 < nickster> The local toys r us only had 2950s available. I really wanted that r330
22:03 < ekaj> has anyone talked to Gibby lately?
22:04 < aName> nickster: lol 2950
22:04 < corn266> ayyyy turning it off and on again workerd
22:04 < vinrock> it always works
22:05 < int0x1C8> [15:02] <int0x1C8> welp either he melted his gpu or he figured it out
22:06 < int0x1C8> I love being right
22:06 < nickster> Legit they had a picture of an r330 but there were none in the rack
22:06 < xamithan> gibby left after his lover got banned
22:06 < corn266> Nah the GPU will melt by the end of the month
22:06 < hxcsp> nickster: have you tried walmart?
22:06 < hxcsp> they sell acer servers
22:07 < hxcsp> acer. servers.
22:07 < ekaj> xamithan: who dat
22:07 < corn266> haha jk "PyTorch no longer supports this GPU because it is too old."
22:07 < nickster> Lol
22:07 < xamithan> gencade i think it was?
22:07 < genr8_> you have to use version 0.3.0 or lower i believe
22:07 < genr8_> or use gtx 1000 series
22:07 < vinrock> lawl
22:08 < int0x1C8> look at ban list
22:08 < int0x1C8> its gencade
22:08 < corn266> I'll just rummage for a GTX 1080TI I think we have lying around somewhere
22:08 < vinrock> comcast wants $7,200 for 2 years of 2000mbps internet
22:08 < genr8_> dafuq
22:08 < corn266> wut
22:08 < genr8_> i guess thats doable though
22:08 < genr8_> if you were insane
22:09 < genr8_> "The internet made for you other 0.1%'ers "
22:10 < aName> 7200/24 = 300
22:10 < hxcsp> vinrock: thats $300/m
22:10 < Hatter> what are you guys doing for annoying software that insists on local admin priveledges?
22:10 < aName> Which is not that crazy for 200mbps in a lot of places
22:10 <@JollyRgrs> wait, did i hear someone saying they were looking for some 2950 servers?
22:10 <@JollyRgrs> i'll sell mine
22:10 < Hatter> I was thinking of wrapping an app in a powershell script that executes it with higher priveledges
22:10 < genr8_> nooo i want those r710's
22:10 < vinrock> hxcp yup theyre insane
22:10 < vinrock> and its a contract
22:10 < ebol4> Hatter: delete it and use something else
22:10 < vinrock> no getting out
22:11 < hxcsp> 300/m isnt that much
22:11 < hxcsp> but it depends on your area
22:11 < hxcsp> and competition i guess
22:11 < felda> vinrock I could get 2Gbps for $250 a month here :D
22:11 < vinrock> both directions?
22:11 < int0x1C8> I have 3 R710s
22:11 < vinrock> i can only imagine the comcast 2gig is like
22:11 < vinrock> 2000/15
22:11 < estranger> felda goes both ways
22:11 < felda> lmao
22:11 <@JollyRgrs> genr8_: not gonna sell my R710s unless I can get something better and lower power (wattage)
22:11 < hxcsp> 2000/5
22:11 <@JollyRgrs> vinrock: ..lol /15
22:11 < int0x1C8> 2 of them will be used for pfsense, because we can't find anyone to take them, even for free
22:12 <@JollyRgrs> int0x1C8: WHAT?
22:12 <@JollyRgrs> who won't take a free R710?
22:12 <@JollyRgrs> i'll take extras
22:12 < vinrock> yo ill take one
22:12 < genr8_> id pay for them
22:12 < int0x1C8> vinrock, come get it
22:12 <@JollyRgrs> genr8_: stop overbidding
22:12 < aName> I'll take a free r710
22:12 < vinrock> where you at
22:12 <@JollyRgrs> int0x1C8: what area of country? (and what country)
22:12 < genr8_> if i have to drive im not paying ;p
22:12 < aName> vinrock: Buffalo NY
22:12 < int0x1C8> madison WI
22:12 < vinrock> hm
22:13 < vinrock> almost close enough
22:13 < hxcsp> no wonder you cant get rid of it
22:13 < aName> vinrock: How close? lol
22:13 <@JollyRgrs> int0x1C8: i'll trade you my 2950s... they are much better space heaters
22:13 < hxcsp> noone lives in wisconsin
22:13 < vinrock> im in jersey right outside staten island
22:13 <@JollyRgrs> ^^
22:13 < hxcsp> vinrock: i have an office there
22:13 < ebol4> i'm in brooklyn but i don't want it
22:13 < vinrock> what town?
22:13 < aName> vinrock: Ah. My ex is in Newark, but I'm not sure the r710 would fit in my checked baggage lol
22:13 < vinrock> i actually need an r710 for my buddies shop computer
22:13 < vinrock> ah
22:13 < hxcsp> vinrock: woodbridge
22:13 < vinrock> if you could bring it to newark i could pick it up
22:14 < felda> > The 1-Gbps service has an upload speed of 35 Mbps.
22:14 < aName> vinrock: lol
22:14 < vinrock> hxcsp thats next to where im at
22:14 < felda> LMAO Comcast WTF is this shit?!
22:14 < aName> felda: ... the fuck
22:14 <@JollyRgrs> felda: wait, no, that's horrible
22:14 < aName> felda: Like, I know DOCSIS is generally assymetrical
22:14 < aName> But that's just assinie.
22:14 <@JollyRgrs> when i had 150 Mbps from comcast, it was 25 up
22:14 < aName> *assinine.
22:14 <@JollyRgrs> gotta squeeze that download bandwidth from somewhere
22:14 < int0x1C8> asinine
22:15 < vinrock> id have to buy a new modem if i went over 250
22:15 < felda> JollyRgrs I have 75 Mbps down and only like 5 up ;_;
22:16 <@JollyRgrs> https://weather.com/forecast/regional/news/2018-06-18-texas-tropical-moisture-heavy-rain-drought-relief-flood-threat
22:16 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  Heavy Rain in South Texas Could Bring More Flooding Before Tropical Disturbance Washes Out | The Weather Channel
22:16 <@JollyRgrs> weeeellllllllllllllllllllll there's flooodin' down in texas....
22:16 < aName> JollyRgrs: All the telephone lines are down
22:16 <@JollyRgrs> i know what i'm jamming to on the way home
22:16 < vinrock> .yt poontang boomerang
22:16 < aName> k
22:16 < vinrock> goddamnit bot
22:17 < corn266> `sjw vinrock
22:17 <+layer-eight> corn266, you're a privileged, fat-shaming, intolerant, neo-nazi!
22:17 < vinrock> whoa
22:17 < genr8_> If you bring 1 to newark i'll meet you there and pick up the other 1
22:17 < aName> genr8_: I don't have r710s to give away I thought someone else did
22:17 < aName> I just have the one under my bed, and it's mine
22:17 < int0x1C8> I have the R710s, all of them
22:18 < vinrock> my buddys laptop is dieing so im gona replace it in his shop with an r710
22:18 < officerrando> whatever happened to that dude that was giving away like 200 geforce video cards?
22:18 < vinrock> toss in a gpu or two and a stack of ram
22:18 < vinrock> have a buncha computers in one
22:18 < vinrock> and server hw so it actualy survives
22:18 < genr8_> my laptop died. *heres a rackmount server*
22:18 < vinrock> yeah the drawers in the workbench are like the exact same size
22:18 < int0x1C8> I also have a box full of about 30 8GB DIMM kits for the 710
22:19 < vinrock> just gona replace one of em with the box
22:19 < genr8_> i want 72gb of ram in one if thats negotiable
22:19 < aName> 72GB is tough, that's a full load of 4GB sticks
22:20 < genr8_> i would say do it but they put buffalo in the most remote place for a reason.
22:20 < dragonfleas> cool
22:20 < aName> genr8_: Buffalo is not remote lol
22:20 < aName> genr8_: There's a million people here
22:20 < dragonfleas> I guess previous IT guy had some azure stuff set up not being used anymore, but we have 6000 total for a year of azure
22:20 < dragonfleas> i wonder what we should use it for
22:20 < genr8_> at least its summer
22:20 < aName> dragonfleas: We're going to move our AD server there sometime soon
22:21 < genr8_> start an azure active directory
22:21 < genr8_> add new people there instead and migrate over , or something
22:21 < dragonfleas> how had is azure AD to use?
22:21 < dragonfleas> won't everything break if we ever lose WAN?
22:21 < vinrock> ofc
22:21 < vinrock> thats why you also have an on prem dc
22:22 < vinrock> at least
22:22 < genr8_> theyd talk together
22:23 < genr8_> idk. maybe host some static webpages in the cloud.
22:23 < vinrock> i just realized, we havent heard about TCL in a while
22:23 < genr8_> why do you have $6000 of azure but not a plan for it ?
22:24 < int0x1C8> what's a site I can upload a pic to
22:24 < dragonfleas> can windows 7 support azure AD?
22:24 < vinrock> imgur
22:24 < silentfury-s4pro> azure expressroute if using wan
22:24 < silentfury-s4pro> it's expensive but it's the best way to do
22:24 < genr8_> dragonfleas: doubt it
22:24 < dragonfleas> azure AD is 1$/user/month that's not too bad
22:25 < dragonfleas> does that include service accounts? or just actual users?
22:25 < silentfury-s4pro> doesnt support a lot of the GPO stuff
22:25 < genr8_> actually it can. but its like a wonky way
22:25 < dragonfleas> you can't have GPO with azure AD?
22:25 < hxcsp> JollyRgrs: it didnt rain here as bad as it sounded
22:25 < silentfury-s4pro> very limited
22:25 < hxcsp> they made it sound like another hurricane was coming
22:25 < genr8_> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory/device-management-hybrid-azuread-joined-devices-setup
22:25 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  How to configure hybrid Azure Active Directory joined devices | Microsoft Docs
22:25 < genr8_> if you can figure that out good luck to you
22:26 < int0x1C8> https://imgur.com/a/GyV4k8D
22:26 <+layer-eight> * int0x1C8 →  IMGUR Album → a few seconds ago → 1 Image → ⚘ 0
22:26 < genr8_> servers!
22:27 < dragonfleas> how expensive are the azure VM's?
22:27 < genr8_> int0x1C8:  what are the 1u ones called ?
22:27 < int0x1C8> 3 R710s, a 1950, and an old af equalogic
22:27 < int0x1C8> 6TB san on the right
22:27 < genr8_> dragonfleas: not very.
22:28 < genr8_> the ones on the top right
22:28 < int0x1C8> poweredge 1950
22:28 < genr8_> two of em ?
22:28 < int0x1C8> yep
22:30 < genr8_> man those are old
22:31 < int0x1C8> yep
22:31 < int0x1C8> that SAN on the right is only 6TB lol
22:31 < genr8_> the housing is good
22:32 < dragonfleas> lol i'll just boot up these ND6 azure VM's and play some vidya
22:33 < genr8_> that should be like a fireable offense lol
22:33 < dragonfleas> honestly these are affordable
22:33 < genr8_> yeah do that for a 2 minute video and then get the billl
22:33 < dragonfleas> 4 cpu 16 gig VM for only 90 a month?
22:34 < genr8_> the other ones are
22:34 < genr8_> the ND6 is $1816 a month it says
22:34 < dragonfleas> yeah that's fucking insane
22:34 < dragonfleas> honestly 5000 a year isn't bad
22:34 < silentfury-s4pro> just make sure you setup your cutoff amount
22:34 < dragonfleas> we could move a bunch of services to here
22:34 < genr8_> yeah azure is reasonable
22:35 < silentfury-s4pro> also, azure loves to reboot things on their schedule
22:35  * silentfury-s4pro has flashbacks of 2014
22:35 < dragonfleas> silentfury-s4pro, what do you mean by that?
22:36 < dragonfleas> WTF
22:36 < silentfury-s4pro> Let's say for argument's sake, you have a vm that runs a website on a single db server
22:36 < dragonfleas> they have cloud file servers?
22:37 < dragonfleas> go on...
22:38 < silentfury-s4pro> now this might've changed, but this VM had no HA
22:38 < silentfury-s4pro> and the customer lost $$$ every second that website was down
22:38 < silentfury-s4pro> that VM would get rebooted on Microsoft's Azure patch schedule.
22:38 < silentfury-s4pro> and as often or frequent as they deemed.
22:39 < dragonfleas> WTF
22:39 < dragonfleas> azure doesn't have HA?
22:39 < dragonfleas> that's fucking retarded
22:39 < silentfury-s4pro> it does, but you have to use their special sauce.
22:39 < silentfury-s4pro> again, this might've changed.
22:39 < silentfury-s4pro> it's been 4 years.
22:40 < silentfury-s4pro> you couldn't have a clone of that VM for failover. That was a huge issue.
22:41 < asimon> What's HA?
22:41 < dragonfleas> high availibility
22:41 < dragonfleas> availability*
22:41 < asimon> thanks
22:41 < dragonfleas> question
22:42 < silentfury-s4pro> Azure and AWS are great tech. However, 100% cloud can be very risky depending on your use-case and organization.
22:42 < dragonfleas> in azure AD, if I were to upgrade the on premise domain controller, would all domain services fail over to azure?
22:42 < dragonfleas> silentfury-s4pro, i don't want 100% cloud, just partial cloud, move some stuff to cloud
22:42 < dragonfleas> honestly our secret server would be perfect in cloud
22:42 < silentfury-s4pro> what are you looking to move?
22:42 < genr8_> Theres also free products that you can try out at home just to learn https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/free/
22:42 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  Create your Azure free account today | Microsoft Azure
22:43 < dragonfleas> I've already done trials at home
22:43 < genr8_> 750 hours on a B1s machine
22:43 < dragonfleas> but didn't have enough trial money to try a lot of stuff
22:43 < genr8_> seems like they give you enough
22:43 < silentfury-s4pro> this is where an Azure partner might be a good idea to involve, depending on your needs.
22:43 < dragonfleas> how to i set cut-off on azure?
22:43 < dragonfleas> what is an azure partner?
22:44 < silentfury-s4pro> organizations that live and breathe Azure that can assist with cloud transition.
22:44 < dragonfleas> how much do they cost?
22:45 < silentfury-s4pro> that depends.
22:45 < dragonfleas> we're non-profit essentially dealing with a 0$ IT budget
22:46 < genr8_> so... just you
22:46 < dragonfleas> yep
22:46 < silentfury-s4pro> a $0 IT budget is a place you don't want to use Azure in.
22:46 < dragonfleas> silentfury-s4pro, we get free yearly $5000 azure credit?
22:46 < dragonfleas> I don't want to waste that
22:47 < dragonfleas> I am sitting on 5 g's right now in my azure wallet, but I don't want to put it to waste
22:47 < silentfury-s4pro> i can appreciate that.
22:48 < Sousapro> $5k in azure goes in no time at all
22:48 < silentfury-s4pro> dragonfleas: Here's what I'd suggest - reach out to Microsoft Azure Sales, explain your situation to them, see if they'll put you in touch with a partner who's willing to work with a non-profit with a very limited budget such as yourself.
22:48 < Sousapro> one mistake and it's gone for the year
22:49 < silentfury-s4pro> You might be a great candidate for a reference case for some flashy PR for one of them.
22:49 < dragonfleas> silentfury-s4pro, sure
22:50 < silentfury-s4pro> "We're a proud supporter of the anti-dragonfleas society. We believe in giving back to our community and can help similar organizations such as yours, keeping you safe from dragonfleas."
22:50 < silentfury-s4pro> :D
22:50 < dragonfleas> I'll just boot up this M128s azure VM and run it for a day and run out of azure budget in that amount of time"
22:50 < int0x1C8> I don't think he wants to go full azure, just wants something useful to do with the freebie
22:50 < dragonfleas> ^^^^^^^^^^
22:51 < silentfury-s4pro> i'm just saying, be mindful WHAT you put in Azure, and why you're doing so.
22:51 < silentfury-s4pro> you know what I'd put in azure? Websites.
22:51 < felda> cryptic1 how does it feel knowing you can get absolutely clobbered on the Marry G Wanna starting October 17th???
22:51 < silentfury-s4pro> I'm surprised they didn't pick October 20th
22:52 < dragonfleas> silentfury-s4pro, we do have an on-prem website, I could migrate our website over, how well do IIS servers work on azure?
22:52 < silentfury-s4pro> dragonfleas: There are different methods of doing websites in Azure.
22:52 < int0x1C8> dragonfleas, honestly I'd use those credits to start experimenting with web-development
22:53 < dragonfleas> int0x1C8, nah man, my ORG is looking to save money, and I'm not going to be selfish with the credits
22:53 < dragonfleas> i wanna save my company money so I can put it on my resume
22:54 < int0x1C8> yeah, the thing is though, that $5000 in credit is like the first sample a drug dealer gives you
22:54 < silentfury-s4pro> ^
22:54 < int0x1C8> you run out too quick for anything useful, then just like that you're hooked
22:54 < silentfury-s4pro> There are other ways to save $.
22:55 < silentfury-s4pro> are you familiar with techsoup?
22:55 < dragonfleas> honestly techsoup is really fucking us on corepacks
22:56 < dragonfleas> they're charging a lot for 2 core packs and we have high core on-prem servers
22:56 < coderphive> what the fuck did I just return to
22:56 < dragonfleas> essentially, my goal is to virtualize our whole environment
22:56 < coderphive> o shi
22:56 <@Code_Man65> For non-profits techsoup is a must
22:56 < dragonfleas> Code_Man65, i understand that
22:56 < coderphive> coderphive sets mode -o Code_Man65
22:56 < vinrock> tesla named the saboteur
22:56 < vinrock> dun DUN DUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
22:57 < dragonfleas> techsoup recently changed their donations for microsoft products and are charging A LOT more for stuff
22:57 <@Code_Man65> Did they up the limits at the same time?
22:57 < coderphive> That's not a real command
22:57 < dragonfleas> and due to some discrepancies with our licensing here, our IT budget has run down for the year
22:57 <@Code_Man65> Really coderphive?  Seems like it worked for me.
22:57 < dragonfleas> Code_Man65, nope
22:57 <@Code_Man65> Let me try it again
22:57 <@Code_Man65> Yep, looks like a real command to me
22:58 < coderphive> Still honestly not sure if it's a legit mode
22:58 < coderphive> Code_Man65 imagination mode
22:58 < silentfury-s4pro> dragonfleas: IT requires money. Organizations that fail to realize this shouldn't be in business.
22:58 < dragonfleas> they didn't up the limits, right now, we're limited to 25 core packs in two year cycles
22:58 < dragonfleas> so 50 cores, but that's only like 4 VM's for us
22:58 < silentfury-s4pro> how many VM hosts/VM's do you have?
22:58 < dragonfleas> because we have 20 core servers
22:58 <@Code_Man65> No it isn't, not if you get Windows datacenter licenses
22:58 <@Code_Man65> That's unlimited VM's
22:58 < dragonfleas> Code_Man65, techsoup no longer offers datacenter
22:59 < coderphive> guys
22:59 <@Code_Man65> That means MS changed what they are presenting to MS
22:59 < coderphive> just move to Kubernetes
22:59 < coderphive> that is all
22:59 <@Code_Man65> However, MS still has non-profit pricing.  Talk with your software vendors.
22:59 < dragonfleas> they stopped offering datacenter like 2 months ago
22:59 <@Code_Man65> MS changed what they are presenting to techsoup*
22:59 < dragonfleas> Code_Man65, MS does have non-profit DISCOUNTS for datacenter, but it's still like 2 grand?
22:59 < dragonfleas> PER SERVER
23:00 < coderphive> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2018/06/20/tesla-sues-former-employee-as-elon-musk-signals-hunt-for-saboteurs/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.14e36ea57fbc
23:00 <+layer-eight> * coderphive →  Tesla sues former employee Martin Tripp, for hacking the automaker's computer systems - The Washington Post
23:00 <@Code_Man65> That a much better price than what for-profit pays
23:00 < dragonfleas> yeah i understand that, but my boss wants me to just start retiring all of my management servers
23:00 <@Code_Man65> Also, you should REALLY be working with your grant writer.  There are tons of foundations that will do grants for technology stuff.
23:00 < dragonfleas> Wait, are there IT grants for non-profits?
23:00 <@Code_Man65> Yes
23:00 <@Code_Man65> I should know, I was in non-profit IT for 5 years
23:01 < coderphive> Martin Tripp is gonna go to jail for a long time
23:01 < coderphive> Corporate Espionage is FBI territory
23:01 < silentfury-s4pro> Start transitioning stuff off MS licensing or threaten to, if you can find equally functional equivalents in Google/Amazon/etc..
23:01 < coderphive> RIP Martin if you're in here
23:01 <@Code_Man65> Yep coderphive, he will be going to federal pound me in the ass prison.
23:01 < dragonfleas> Code_Man65, know of any websites I might be able to point my boss in the direction of for IT grants?
23:02 <@Code_Man65> Talk to your grant writer, they should know if local foundations do those kind of grants.
23:02 < int0x1C8> oh my god, this is amazing
23:02 < int0x1C8> https://news.slashdot.org/story/18/06/20/1759257/some-rivers-are-so-drug-polluted-their-eels-get-high-on-cocaine
23:02 <+layer-eight> * int0x1C8 →  Some Rivers Are So Drug-Polluted, Their Eels Get High on Cocaine - Slashdot
23:02 < dragonfleas> I don't even know who our grant writer is
23:02 <@Code_Man65> Ask, they are your best friend
23:03 <@Code_Man65> I got 90k one year to do a massive desktop replacement and servers
23:03 < silentfury-s4pro> I find Microsoft gets very flexible when you mention the word Google and Amazon to them.
23:04 <@Code_Man65> silentfury-s4pro:  Different world in non-profit man, they get really cheap prices but usually have to ask for grants to really use it.
23:04 < dragonfleas> yeah, honestly we have a decent yearly operating budget, but our IT budget is garbage
23:05 < dragonfleas> they never upped the IT budget after they decided to hire IT staff intead of MSP's, so I'm subtracting from the budget
23:05 < dragonfleas> also fucking idiot previous IT guy ordered really super insanely unneeded high powered servers we can't afford the licensing for and didn't need
23:05 < dragonfleas> ugh hate previous IT guy
23:05 <@Code_Man65> Heh, I got laid off from my non-profit because they transitioned back to MSP
23:05 < dragonfleas> i wish I could find him and punch him in the face
23:05 <@Code_Man65> But that was 6 years ago now
23:06 < dragonfleas> Code_Man65, yeah i'm constantly in fear of that tbh
23:06 < syere> that's when you go apply for the MSP and say you have x amount of years with that company
23:06 < dragonfleas> honestly I've proved my worth here though, got us out of a fuck ton of bullshit
23:06 <@Code_Man65> dragonfleas:  Don't, he had to spec for potential future growth.  Trust me, you want to get as much as you can when you have the funds available.
23:06 < silentfury-s4pro> ugh MSP.
23:06 < silentfury-s4pro> ugh, non-profit IT.
23:06  * silentfury-s4pro runs
23:07 < dragonfleas> Code_Man65, back then he didn't know microsoft was going to change their licensing to per core
23:07 < dragonfleas> before we could license and ENTIRE host and 2 vm's for 12 dollars
23:07 <@Code_Man65> How old are the servers?
23:07 < dragonfleas> they're 3 years old
23:07 < syere> over powered servers sound like its time for some free hypervisors
23:07 <@Code_Man65> Ok
23:07 < dragonfleas> syere, lol
23:07 <@Code_Man65> So then assuming he bought the software in the same timeframe, SA should have kicked in
23:08 < syere> dragonfleas: im serious
23:08 <@Code_Man65> You should already be licensed for 2016
23:08 < dragonfleas> nope
23:08 < dragonfleas> checked VLSC
23:08 < dragonfleas> and OEM
23:08 < dragonfleas> nope
23:08 <@Code_Man65> Did he license 2012 R2 datacenter?
23:08 < dragonfleas> yep^
23:08 <@Code_Man65> From techsoup
23:08 < dragonfleas> no
23:08 < dragonfleas> not datacenter
23:08 < dragonfleas> got standard
23:08 <@Code_Man65> DUMBASS
23:08 < dragonfleas> yep^
23:08 < dragonfleas> i would have bought datacenter
23:08 < dragonfleas> he KNEW that they were going to be high VM count hypervisors
23:09 < dragonfleas> is datacenter sold in core packs?
23:09 <@Code_Man65> Yes
23:09 < dragonfleas> i thought so
23:09 < dragonfleas> but back then it wasn't
23:09 < dragonfleas> we also don't have any organizational CAL's
23:09 < dragonfleas> for our domain
23:10 <@Code_Man65> That doesn't surprise me, at all
23:10 < dragonfleas> so all of our users are unlicensed
23:10 < dragonfleas> if we got a SAM we'd be fucked
23:10  * silentfury-s4pro cringes
23:10 <@Code_Man65> o365 E3 for non-profits is $4/user/month
23:10 < silentfury-s4pro> so, macs and gsuite for all?
23:10 < dragonfleas> Code_Man65, can i purchase o365 with azure credits?
23:10 < Spr1ng> lol
23:11 <@Code_Man65> Nope dragonfleas
23:11 < dragonfleas> Ugh why not :(
23:11 < dragonfleas> My boss wants O365
23:11 < silentfury-s4pro> dragonfleas: what about gsuite?
23:11 <@Code_Man65> Doesn't have as good a price for non-profits
23:11 <@Code_Man65> And most non-profit specific software only interfaces with MS stuff
23:11 < dragonfleas> yep
23:12 < dragonfleas> ^
23:12 <@Code_Man65> dragonfleas, read your pm
23:12 < silentfury-s4pro> you can still do activesync
23:12 < mcj> i have a dumb linux question. if i delete a file using rm, does it enter trash?
23:12 < mcj> or is it immedialtey deleted
23:12 < silentfury-s4pro> it's toast.
23:12 < mcj> sweet
23:12 <@Code_Man65> There is no safety net in linux
23:13 < int0x1C8> UNIX DELETE TRAIN HAVEN'T BRAKES
23:13 < mcj> when using the filemanager it enters trash that's why i was wondering
23:13 < mcj> proably part of the de
23:14 < int0x1C8> dragonfleas, gtfo to another job that can afford things
23:16 < joelazot> hi
23:17 < int0x1C8> HI
23:18 < int0x1C8> BYE
23:19 < hxcsp> stop scaring people away
23:20 < int0x1C8> no I'm good at it
23:20 < dragonfleas> lmao
23:20 <@Code_Man65> Ok, I'm out
23:22 < int0x1C8> unless you want to become a specialist in IT for non-profits, but I wouldn't recommend that
23:22 < int0x1C8> it is, by design, not lucrative
23:25 < Nightcinder> Report: Lucasfilm puts Obi-Wan film “on hold” after underwhelming Solo debut
23:26 < pcspkr> why do I spend my free time writing DSC resources and WSUS scripts
23:26 < int0x1C8> because you hate yourself?
23:26 < int0x1C8> why would you do that
23:27  * pcspkr shrug
23:27 <+shakygator> anyone run mongodb in docker with TLS enabled
23:28 < pcspkr> I see you're going for max buzzword
23:28 <+shakygator> no
23:28 <+shakygator> legit question
23:47 < rootsudo> Do indian recruiters actually hire anyone
23:47 < rootsudo> int0x1C8 that wouldn't be a bad field
23:47 < rootsudo> IT specialist for non profit, working remote, can decide day to day, designed a remote office
23:47 < rootsudo> Hell if I could do it for 70K and just be simple IT manager, that's not too bad....
23:48 < int0x1C8> I wouldn't want the stress of dealing with the constant resource shortfall
23:49 < int0x1C8> "get's lots of shit done for minimal resources" looks great on a resume
23:50 < int0x1C8> but not "constantly begging and pleading, trying to put out fire after fire because we have literally $0 for a budget"
23:53 < int0x1C8> pretty sure the latter eventually gives you a heart attack
23:55 < rootsudo> int0x1C8 every main product has a NGO/Non profit where stuff is almost free
23:55 < rootsudo> MSFT for example 1$/month E3
23:58 < SynMonger> pfft
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