--- Log opened Wed Jun 27 00:00:02 2018
--- Day changed Wed Jun 27 2018
00:00 < Stoob> +1minidp and an hdmi
00:02 < Stoob> so its missing 1 of their DPs and one of their typeCs but on the plus side its got room for an nvme SSD and a sata drive so you could get away without the external (but if theyd rather an external...)
00:04 < catbeard> all this talk of DP and docking is getting me excited ya'll
00:04 < rpifan_> have u done DP
00:05 < catbeard> yeah, i still sing myself to sleep sometimes
00:05 < catbeard> i mean
00:05 < catbeard> wait with MMF
00:07 < rpifan_> mmf?
00:12 <+giant_it_burrit> Man man fat man
00:15 < rpifan_> do end user lie
00:15 < rpifan_> i mean windows is problematic but it rarely just gets corrupts for no reason
00:15 < rpifan_> but u ask them if they shut down the computer forceably
00:15 < rpifan_> or if something happened
00:15 < rpifan_> but it never did
00:15 < rpifan_> it seems
00:18 < MillerBOSS> Lie or just don't know. Always verify, I have learned
00:21 < rpifan_> but how do u verify if there just helping a guy out, there your only source
00:29 < agent_white> Waterboard them
00:30 < rpifan_> nice
00:32 < catbeard> rpifan_: everybody lies
00:33 < catbeard> that's what logs are for
00:33 < rpifan_> hmm
00:33 < rpifan_> not if they fuck up the logs
00:33 < catbeard> don't give them access to logs
00:33 < catbeard> or off-site it read-only with papertrailapp
00:33 < catbeard> as a copy, so you can diff if needed
00:34 < rpifan_> best to stick a paperclip in the user to put them in reado nly mode
00:35 < Casteil> holy fuck Angular documentation has so many broken links..
00:37 < admiralspark> any PCI-DSS implementers in here?
00:37 < admiralspark> How the hell do you manage a cat1 server without your workstation being cat2x?
00:38 < m4221> Hi
00:47 < derpingit> whadaaap
00:55 < fosho> poop aroma
00:55 < fosho> `seen himyapping? cryptic1
00:55 <+layer-eight> Seen β†’ cryptic1 β†’ cryptic1 β†’ Saying Jolly nope other things via Log on #reddit-sysadmin 3 hours ago
00:56 < fosho> hi there
00:57 <@cryptic1> BANT!
00:57 <@cryptic1> who has summoned me?
00:57 <@JollyRgrs> dangit
00:57 <@JollyRgrs> netflix won't work on anything other than primary monitor now :(
00:57 <@JollyRgrs> not even 2nd monitor on same video card
00:58 <@cryptic1> no chill for you JollyRgrs
00:58 <@cryptic1> bwAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
00:59 <@JollyRgrs> no...
00:59 <@JollyRgrs> no netflix
00:59 <@JollyRgrs> all chill
01:00 <@cryptic1> pfft
01:00 <@cryptic1> lies
01:00 <@JollyRgrs> not like your mom and i watch much before getting busy anyways
01:00 <@JollyRgrs> huh
01:01 <@JollyRgrs> luke cage directed by lucy lu (sp?)... did she do season 1 and i forgot?
01:07 < m4221> cryptic1: halp
01:08 < m4221> .seen cryptic1
01:08 <@cryptic1> ban m4221
01:08 <@cryptic1> oops forgot the /
01:08 < m4221> cryptic1: omegamike touched me
01:09 <@cryptic1> what?
01:09 < m4221> cryptic1: JollyRgrs touched me inappropriately
01:09 < m4221> cryptic1: ban him
01:11 <@JollyRgrs> u kidding me?
01:11 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.thewrap.com/luke-cage-season-2-refresher-happened-misty-knights-arm/
01:11 <@JollyRgrs> they want me to watch the defenders to know what's going on before season 2 begun?
01:11 < m4221> JollyRgrs: get your hands off me! Jk
01:11 <@JollyRgrs> big role LOST HER ARM! i was like "what?"
01:12  * JollyRgrs touches m4221 appropriately
01:14 < MikeSpears> JollyRgrs: sup
01:15 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, i have no idea wtf you are talking aboot
01:15 < MikeSpears> very few people actually do
01:15 < MikeSpears> lol
01:15 < MikeSpears> most people just nod their heads
01:17  * agent_white nods
01:18 <@JollyRgrs> cryptic1: you seen luke cage?
01:18 <@JollyRgrs> season 1 ends and misty has 2 arms... season 2 begins... she has 1
01:18 <@JollyRgrs> seems it happened during another show, "the defenders"
01:18 <@JollyRgrs> so they aren't going to explain in season 2 b/c you should just know...
01:22 <@cryptic1> i have only seen a couple ep of season 1
01:22 <@JollyRgrs> it was pgood
01:26 < agent_white> I need to czech it out... season 1 was great, seems like lots of folks have been praising season 2.
01:29 <@JollyRgrs> i've heard rthe same, i'm just no ep 1 of s2 right now
01:29 <@JollyRgrs> so far, just as good as the first
01:29 <@JollyRgrs> i just wish they didn't do stuff in another show entirely that changed things in season 2, and they aren't backfilling the story
01:31 < agent_white> Maybe it'll flesh out as the season goes on? And what show are you talkin bout?
01:32 < agent_white> Seemed like it was tied into Iron Fist a bit or whatnot though.
01:33 < agent_white> That one was also pretty good I think... I'm a sucker for anything superhero though.
01:37 <@JollyRgrs> agent_white: i don't have time to keep up with all of these... so i don't watch jessica jones, agetns of shield, etc
01:37 <@JollyRgrs> i like them, just not time for them
01:38 <@JollyRgrs> but a show should stand on its own
01:38 <@JollyRgrs> they should at least briefly state, within the story, how... other than saving someone's life (too vague)
01:38 < agent_white> Yeah agreed.
01:39 <+TuxedoJack> Wish they'd have let the Defenders  cameo it up in Infinity War, though
01:39 <+TuxedoJack> They just take a look and go "nope, fuck this"
01:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> I'm on the last ep of luke cake seaosn 2 right now
01:55 < McDonaldsWiFi> easily the best season of all of them so far.. punisher might still be #1 actually
01:55 < McDonaldsWiFi> but damn if they didn't get this one right
02:15 < rpifan> i think im gonna set up mail in a box
02:15 < xamithan> USPS can do that for ya for free
02:16 < rpifan> ?
02:18 < xamithan> mailbox
02:19 < rpifan> but i need a business email domain to scam meraki out of switches
02:25 < rpifan_> does windows have any kind of mem test
02:25 < rpifan_> this laptop is randomly rebooting
02:25 < rpifan_> and then sometimes getting stuck on the lenovo logo
02:26 < enix> omg
02:26 < enix> white irc is weird
02:27 < enix> anyway... getting the following in CentOS when I try to mount a disk: The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown
02:27 <@cryptic1> why enix
02:27 < enix> Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting),
02:27 < betrayed> because it isn't safe
02:27 < enix> But I dont have Windows installed so I can't like.. fix in windows and honestly I dont care about data corruption so these askubuntu and stackoverflow answers can fucking blow me
02:27 < enix> Can't delete the hibernation file because remove_hiberfile isnt supported anymore
02:27 < enix> Any way to 'dangerously' do it
02:28 < enix> I dont care about OS corruption obviously... i just need to write to it while keeping the users directory in tact
02:28 < enix> I will never boot from windows on it
02:30 < enix> .
02:36 < enix> fucking hell this is killing my day
02:40 < rpifan> these ppl are gonna interview me tommrowo
02:40 < rpifan> http://www.theblackbird.de/
02:40 <+layer-eight> * rpifan β†’  blackbird collective
02:40 < rpifan> its an HR collective
02:49 < misspwn_> doxx rpifan
02:49 < misspwn_> it took me 5 different recipes to find a goat cheese stuffed meatball recipe. then i ended up just looking at the cooking times and deviating from it.
02:49 < MikeSpears> lol
02:49 < misspwn_> using ground chicken with some horseradish
02:50 < rpifan> how / why wuld u dox me
02:50 < misspwn_> so either i'm going to be eating dank meatballs in 20minutes or i'm eating a bologna sandwich....
02:50 < misspwn_> rpifan, no i meant you posting the place you are interviewing at
02:51 < rpifan> well they are an HR colective
02:51 < rpifan> which apparently means they do HR freelance
02:51 < enix> Okay just going to nuke this hard drive and start again... already saved what I need to
02:51 < rpifan> then i guess they report to the company
02:51 < misspwn_> so like a recruiting company?
02:52 < enix> No it'll be the company does all the payroll and shit
02:52 < rpifan> yea but there a collective.? they work 4 days a week
02:52 < enix> When I have a window manager I'll hvae a glance rpifan hahahaha
02:52 < rpifan> lol
02:52 < rpifan> r u on irsi
02:52 < enix> Yea lol
02:52 < enix> I just run from one of my utility servers
02:53 < rpifan> lol
02:53 < rpifan> where is this server
02:53 < enix> no mans land
02:53 < enix> I should setup a ZNC soon though
02:54 < rpifan> hmm
02:54 < enix> omg this install taking so long
02:56 < MikeSpears> enix: why did you break it
02:56 < enix> partitioning reasons
02:56 < enix> easier to rebuild than fix
02:56 < MikeSpears> nerd
02:56 < MikeSpears> I should go to bed, but I don't want to
02:56 < MikeSpears> lol
02:56 < enix> Well 3GB isnt much room for linux :P
02:57 < MikeSpears> NERD
02:57 < MikeSpears> NERD
02:57 < MikeSpears> NERD
02:57 < MikeSpears> NERD
02:57 < MikeSpears> NERD
02:57 < MikeSpears> NERD
02:57 < MikeSpears> :)
02:57 < enix> NERD
02:57 < enix> E
02:57 < enix> R
02:57 < enix> D
02:57 < MikeSpears> enix is a nerd
02:57 < MikeSpears> fucking nerd
02:57 < MikeSpears> I'm not a nerd
02:57 < MikeSpears> I use windwos
02:57 < MikeSpears> windows*
02:57 < MikeSpears> lol
02:57 < enix> Oh
02:57 < enix> You're one of those people
02:57 < MillerBOSS> enix πŸ‘‰ how is the new job?
02:58 < enix> MillerBOSS -> #luser
02:58 < MillerBOSS> Yeah so, YEAH SO?
02:58 < enix> Yeah its good. I have a fair amount of freedom, lots of control over my own work, and I'm responsible for everything
02:58 < enix> the IT director is like "oh you dont know that? That's cool you'll learn all good"
02:58 < enix> lol
02:58 < MillerBOSS> Yeah good to have that.
02:58 < MillerBOSS> Learning is fun
02:59 < MikeSpears> enix: so you can masturbate all day?
02:59 < MillerBOSS> Rather than being bored right?
02:59 < enix> So unlike other jobs where there was no room for self development, I'm being 100% encouraged to own everything from airconditioning and cameras to our public facing infrastructure, and all the cables connecting them
02:59 < MikeSpears> i have an interview tommorow during lunch
02:59 < enix> LOL I meant to say MikeSpears -> #luser
02:59 < MillerBOSS> That sounds like what I do enix
02:59 < enix> Awesome where at?
02:59 < enix> MillerBOSS: If I wanted to lol
02:59 < enix> brb
03:00 < misspwn_> MikeSpears, and you're gona nail it because you won't have to suck any dick
03:00 < MikeSpears> lol
03:01 < misspwn_> rpifan, maybe that's what you need to do
03:01 < MikeSpears> he needs to suck dick?
03:01 < misspwn_> wait just not to HR
03:01 < MikeSpears> lol
03:01 < rpifan> what?
03:01 < rpifan> i dont suck dick really
03:02 < misspwn_> oof i poorly timed cooking potatoes. those take so much longer to cook and i'm over here like trying to pan fry those before the chicken is done
03:02 < misspwn_> rpifan, yeah maybe that's your problem
03:02 < misspwn_> you're selfish
03:02 < rpifan> lol misspwn_ since when r u into trolling ur gay best friend
03:02 < misspwn_> omg i am trying to help you!
03:02 < MikeSpears> ooh sophos utm finally supports 1:1 nat
03:03 < rpifan> right misspwn_ id say mean things about u but idk where the line is with women
03:03 < MikeSpears> misspwn_ has no line
03:03 < MikeSpears> I think
03:03 < MikeSpears> lol
03:03 < rpifan> idk remember i got fired for being mean
03:03 < nojeffrey> How would this company have info on 90% of our employees? https://www.zoominfo.com I'm in there with my correct title, it says Last Update: 2018-2-19, I only emailed 2 external people that day, could those 2 have something to do with it?
03:03 <+layer-eight> * nojeffrey β†’  B2B Database of Detailed and Accurate Contact Information | ZoomInfo
03:04 < MikeSpears> linkedin
03:04 < MikeSpears> shit like that
03:04 < MikeSpears> linkedin, indeed, other such sources
03:06 < nojeffrey> My title on linkedin is outdated, hmm only applied for one job in the past 4 months and it was direct email
03:07 < rpifan> direct mail
03:07 < rpifan> lol
03:07 < nojeffrey> whats funny about that
03:07 < rpifan> i wonder what boy bands were like in ancient rome
03:11 < misspwn_> rpifan, i can take it
03:11 < rpifan> meh
03:12 < rpifan> why risk it
03:12 < misspwn_> i'm not tryin to dig on ya, i was just picturing that fake interview in all the pornos where they sit on the couch
03:12 < rpifan> lol
03:12 < rpifan> actually
03:12 < rpifan> i was in a porno of that kind
03:12 < rpifan> it was really cringyworthy
03:12 < rpifan> i was young naive
03:14 < McDonaldsWiFi> man debian is so much lighter than windows 10
03:14 < McDonaldsWiFi> only 40GB for the OS plus all my shit
03:24  * L3gacy shimmies across the dance floot
03:24  * L3gacy shimmies across the dance floor, too
03:27 < monoxane> McDonaldsWiFi ive got a debian install with web, sql, monitoring, loads of docker and a few other things and its only 18gb on disk
03:28 < L3gacy> monoxane: Pass me some BBQ pork ribs :)
03:28 < rpifan> i do tht i can just plop in whatever files i need from a backup
03:28 < rpifan> and gnome automatically reads it
03:28  * L3gacy pulls up to the buffet table with a fork
03:28 < rpifan> and it goes back to how it was before
03:28 < L3gacy> ESXI installed WOOT
03:29 <@Nostalg14c> Mornin o/
03:29 < L3gacy> Now.....  Waiting for my gigabit to go back on
03:29 < L3gacy> I dropped to 150/150 to save money, but then found out centos takes forever to DL
03:29 < rpifan> hi
03:30 < L3gacy> rpifan: Hai!
03:30  * L3gacy slides rpifan a three layer avacado aioli and chicken taco
03:30 < rpifan> sounds great
03:31 < genr8_> i have a friend who cant download faster than 150k/s and he refuses to do anything about it
03:31 < rpifan> good
03:31 < rpifan> let him live his life
03:31 < L3gacy> avacodi aioli, queso blanco, diced chicken, lettuce, tomatoe :)
03:32 < genr8_> takes him 3 days to download a game on steam tho
03:32 < xamithan> Maybe he likes downloading at 150k
03:32 < L3gacy> U need to hot carl him, and scream "FOR GREAT JUSTICE!"
03:35 < rpifan> is servicenow like salesforce?
03:36 < L3gacy> I need Meraki gear :(
03:37 < rpifan> why
03:37 < rpifan> also
03:37 < rpifan> u can get free meraki gear
03:37 < xamithan> You mean,  you can commit theft and fraud for free gear
03:39 < m4221> cryptic1:
03:39 < rpifan> no
03:39 < m4221> Hey
03:39 < rpifan> they send it to u
03:39 < DrGibby|> I overestimated my abilities to find cisco software online
03:39 < m4221> cryptic1: DrGibby| touched my butt
03:39 < DrGibby|> because I need Unity Express and I dont have access to it on Cisco's website :\
03:40 < m4221> DrGibby|: we are on ePO 4.6 :(
03:40 < m4221> Out of support since 12/2015
03:40 < misspwn_> https://imgur.com/a/u0JeIQO don't have to starve tonight!
03:40 <+layer-eight> * misspwn_ β†’  IMGUR Album β†’ a few seconds ago β†’ 1 Image β†’ ⚘ 0
03:41 < DrGibby|> and what makes it even more frustrating is-- I think-- Cisco's website is having weird issues loading shit
03:42 < Sachiru> Anyone using LXD in production here? I'm encountering a very weird problem with accessing port 80 on containers. It's configured to connect to a bridge on the local interface (br0 on enp3s0). I have Pihole running in the container having its own IP. I can get DHCP/DNS from Pihole, but I can't access the web interface on port 80 (and only port 80 is blocked). Firewall is disabled on both host and container.
03:42 < Sachiru> Any ideas on where I should look?
03:43 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> misspwn_: They look a little undercooked :\
03:43 < misspwn_> i used ground chicken and the meat thermometer said the iz cooked
03:44 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> DrGibby|: Man, you'd think a company, like Cisco, would be able to afford a revamp of their site to better suit everyone's needs.
03:44 < DrGibby|> I can navigate it fine
03:44 < DrGibby|> I'd just like it to work
03:44 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> misspwn_: Oh lol My bad.
03:44 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> misspwn_: Didn't think it was chicken.
03:45 < DrGibby|> I just want to get this service module working :(
03:45 < misspwn_> :P Groud chicken meatballs stuffed with goat cheese and a little horseradish
03:45 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> DrGibby|: Exactly my point. Havin a working website is part of that suiting everyone's needs.
03:45 < DrGibby|> oh
03:45 < DrGibby|> well yeah
03:45 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> lol
03:45 < DrGibby|> a lot of people complain about their website and how much it sucks
03:46 < DrGibby|> thought you were playing that angle
03:46 < geekodour08> I am getting started with sysadmin stuff, I want to know about containers. Do you suggest learning LXD first before learning docker?
03:46 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> DrGibby|: I'm one of them. Dell too, ever since their EMC merger, EMC site has been SHIIIIIIT.
03:46 < misspwn_> microsofts partner center or partner portal whatever they call it pisses me off
03:46 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> I .. haven't checked it in a while though.
03:47 < Sachiru> geekodour08: why not both? They target different use cases
03:48 < gnupluslinux> geekodour08, start with virtual machines
03:48 < Cronus> Sachiru works fine here, check netstat -alnp to see whats using port 80 if anything
03:48 < Sachiru> I am just annoyed because I'm at my wits' end. iptables shows no redirection or blocks, the container is directly ping-able from the LAN and you can actually perform DHCP with it, no firewalls are enabled, yet for some fscking reason I can't access port 80 on it?
03:48 < Sachiru> Thanks for the hint Cronus
03:48 < Cronus> i just setup a proxmox node at home,a nd moved my pihole to an lxc container
03:48 < Cronus> worked without a hitch
03:49 < Sachiru> Nothing's listening on port 80
03:49 < gnupluslinux> i got a couple proxmox nodes running "behind" their own hosted pfsense boxes
03:49 < Cronus> sounds like pihole aint running or isnt running correctly then
03:50 < Sachiru> The only thing I got is 0.0.0.0:80 LISTEN -
03:50 < Cronus> thats pihole probably
03:50 < Cronus> does it have lighttpd on the end of the line?  (what program its using)
03:50 < Sachiru> Sufoinh yo nr dutr
03:50 < Sachiru> Sorry
03:50 < Cronus> fus roh dah!
03:50 < Sachiru> Wrong home key position
03:50 < Sachiru> Sudoing the command to be sure
03:50 < Sachiru> I ran that on the host, not inside the container
03:50 < gnupluslinux> Sachiru, firewall?
03:50 < Cronus> yea got inside the container
03:51 < Sachiru> WTF?
03:51 < Sachiru> Hmm
03:51 < Sachiru> If host has nginx listening to 80, it should not affect the container, correcT?
03:51 < Sachiru> Since they are on a bridged interface and have different IPs
03:51 < xamithan> Not unless you are trying to forward port 80 to the container
03:52 < Sachiru> No, no port forwarding done
03:52 < Sachiru> I went with bridge because my plan was to convert the KVM VMs providing different services here to LXD containers in the test environment
03:52 < gnupluslinux> are host and container both listening on 80? is the container port mapped properly to host? can host nginx talk to container? error.log reporting anything?
03:53 < xamithan> Just bring up a console on the container and check it out
03:53 < Sachiru> Container has nothing listening on port 80. Weird
03:53 < gnupluslinux> TIL king kunta's beat is basically pulled directly from get nekkid
03:53 < xamithan> Check your lighttp config in the container then
03:53 < Sachiru> Shouldn't Pihole have a lighttpd instance listening to port 80 for the admin interface?
03:53 < xamithan> Maybe you changed the port ?
03:54 < Cronus> yes
03:54 < Cronus> netstat -alnp |grep lighttpd
03:54 < Sachiru> Not really. It's a default install of Pihole, nothing changed except for the adlists
03:54 < Cronus> check if lighttpd is listening on any port
03:54 < Cronus> service lighttpd status
03:54 < Cronus> might also help ^
03:54 < Sachiru> And... nothing
03:54 < gnupluslinux> i like -tulpn
03:54 < xamithan> default from where though
03:54 < Sachiru> WTF
03:54 < Sachiru> Failed
03:54 < Sachiru> Thanks Cronus, now I at least have an idea where to look
03:54 < Cronus> yep
03:55 < Sachiru> Looks like I need to check why this is broken
03:55 < gnupluslinux> are you trying to share container 80 with host 80?
03:55 < gnupluslinux> while host is already using 80 for nginx?
03:55 < vader-> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/S2DAJ2Tt/received_2056538031086628.jpeg
03:55 <+layer-eight> * vader- β†’  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 28,408 bytes
03:56 < Sachiru> gnuplusplus yes, but it's on bridge, with different IPs
03:56 < Sachiru> Sharing already works since I have a service on port 8080 on host and port 8080 in a different container, and they both work
03:56 < gnupluslinux> well 0.0.0.0 will listen in anything
03:56 < Sachiru> It's simply port 80 on this one specific container that is not working (that Cronus helpfully diagnosed as a broken lighttpd instance)
03:57 < Sachiru> I just uninstalled Pihole, apt-get remove --purge lighttpd and reinstall
03:59 < gnupluslinux> dpkg-reconfigure lighthttpd
03:59 < Sachiru> worst case scenario i'd blow away the container and rebuild
03:59 < gnupluslinux> wait, pihole comes as its own little package now?
04:00 < Sachiru> I was concerned that it was a problem with the host, at least now I know it's not
04:00 < Sachiru> Nah, I just repurposed a generic ubuntu LXD container
04:00 < gnupluslinux> i thought it was a preconfigured debian image
04:00 < gnupluslinux> ah
04:00 < rpifan> if you really want to squahsed and like u r soffacating
04:00 < rpifan> i recommedn the cvs on lincolnd rd
04:00 < rpifan> past 7pm
04:01 < xamithan> Are you drunk?
04:01 < gnupluslinux> are you not?
04:01 < xamithan> Not until I get home
04:02 < rpifan> i have issues
04:04 < Sachiru> And... now it works.
04:04 < Sachiru> Thanks again Cronus
04:06 < gnupluslinux> clearly if you here
04:07 < gnupluslinux> vitamins make you pee yellow boy
04:09 < xamithan> Thats why I use those blue tablets in the toilet so I can see green
04:10 < vader-> Too much vitamin B will make you pee neon yellow/green
04:11 < vader-> You will see it if you have too many energy drinks
04:11 < xamithan> I'll try that later,  how many drinks do I need
04:11 <+CheckYourSix> Can confirm
04:11 <+CheckYourSix> I didn't have it from energy drinks though
04:13 < MillerBOSS> Dehydrated will do that too and energy drinks do that because it makes you miss like pop or beer
04:13 < MillerBOSS> s/miss/piss
04:14 <+layer-eight> [SED MillerBOSS] Dehydrated will do that too and energy drinks do that because it makes you piss like pop or beer
04:23 < rpifan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8NPllzkFhE
04:23 <+layer-eight> * rpifan β†’  YouTube β†’ The mind behind Linux | Linus Torvalds β†’ ⚘ 984,705 ↑ 22,211 ↓ 254 ✍ 1,399
04:23 < rpifan> linus seems like kinda of a prick
04:24 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> rpifan: Thats because Linux gets a bad rep for being "for friendly geeks only". He's trying to keep it gangsta for hype.
04:24 < rpifan> hmm
04:29 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> rpifan: One day, he got bold. Decided to be a little TOO gangta. Bad call. The result being he can't move his jaw very much as it's evident in that video.
04:31 < rpifan> hmm
04:31 < ekaj> I'm being a few layers of NAT but i'd still like some people to be able to access my homelab.. I have a domain, and could set up a VPS if needed.. I was thinking maybe host a VPN on a VPS to allow people access?
04:31 < rpifan> i have one file that i need to transfer from linux machine to a iwindows machine
04:31 < rpifan> and ive lost all my usb sticks
04:31 < rpifan> how do i do it witout installing a bunch of crap
04:31 < ekaj> rpifan: quick http server
04:31 < ekaj> oh
04:32 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> rpifan: Dropbox
04:32 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> rpifan: Google cloud?
04:32 < ekaj> download winscp on your windows box
04:32 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> No install. Just go to the website, upload. then download
04:33 <@Nostalg14c> I upload files to emails and save as draft.
04:33 < rpifan> its copy writed stuff
04:33 < rpifan> i guess with winscp i can just scp into my linux box?
04:33 < DrGibby|> I'm so close to saying fuck it with this damn service module
04:34 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> DrGibby|: I don't know whether to encourage you to keep going or to support your best effort and call it a day.
04:35 < MillerBOSS> Need some VMware Workstation keys? Hikvision provides em for freeee at the bottom of the PDF http://www.hikvisioneurope.com/portal/portal/Integration%20and%20Development%20Materials%202018/02-ONVIF%20Tool/How%20to%20use%20ONVIF%20TEST%20Tool_EN_V3.0.pdf
04:35 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS β†’  APPLICATION/PDF Document, 1,327,149 bytes
04:35 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> MillerBOSS: They work for the latest version?
04:35 < DrGibby|> SysAdminGoneCraZ: I'm not giving up quite yet
04:36 < MillerBOSS> No idea SysAdminGoneCraZ. I just found it funny.
04:36 < DrGibby|> I might actually have to hop over to #cisco or #networking
04:36 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> lol
04:36  * DrGibby| cringes
04:36 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> DrGibby|: Oh man. Prepare yourself.
04:36 < MillerBOSS> I use my trusty Keygen these days ;)
04:36 < DrGibby|> I know :(
04:36 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> MillerBOSS: same same lol
04:37 < ekaj> DrGibby|: fuck you that's what
04:37 < DrGibby|> thanks ekaj, just what I needed
04:37 < ekaj> I sent it with love
04:37 < ekaj> what you working on?
04:37 < DrGibby|> I can see that
04:38 < DrGibby|> well, trying to get a SM-SRE-700 to fucking respond
04:38 < ekaj> did you turn it off and on again?
04:38 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> lol
04:38 < ekaj> how's it not responding?
04:39 < DrGibby|> so I can drop CUE on it
04:39 < DrGibby|> yeah, I've restarted the module several times
04:40 < DrGibby|> its booting to some kind of error
04:40 < DrGibby|> yet there is no way to see its output
04:40 < ekaj> no serial?
04:41 < ekaj> Those things look pretty cool btw
04:42 < DrGibby|> nope, its a module you put in a router
04:42 < rpifan> winscp is fialing
04:42 < rpifan> to read my directory
04:42 < ekaj> run as root
04:42 < ekaj> 777 everything
04:42 < ekaj> problem solved
04:42 < MillerBOSS> s/777/666
04:42 <+layer-eight> [SED MillerBOSS/ekaj] 666 everything
04:42 < ekaj> what user are you running winscp as, what user owns the directory
04:42 < MillerBOSS> :O
04:42 < ekaj> can you copy the files to a directory winscp can access
04:43 < rpifan> winscp is running as the local limited user
04:43 < rpifan> i own the direcrtory on linux
04:43 < rpifan> a different user
04:44 < ekaj> can you just chown luser:luser on the files?
04:44 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Google Drive. OneDrive. DropBox. You could have been done by now.
04:44 < rpifan> to be the same user as the windows user?
04:44 < ekaj> no.. when you winscp to a linux box you have to use linux credentials
04:44 < MillerBOSS> You tell em SysAdminGoneCraZ
04:44 < rpifan> yes thats what im doing
04:45 < ekaj> change the ownership of the file on the linux box to the user that you're winscping with
04:45 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> MillerBOSS: I mean, I'm all about the local stuff, but c'mon, work smarter not harder, right? lol
04:45 < MillerBOSS> Whip it
04:45 < MillerBOSS> Whip it goos
04:45 < MillerBOSS> good
04:45 < MillerBOSS> Yes exactly. Keep it simple
04:45 < rpifan> but when i use winscp its trying to connect to my home directory not just pul one file
04:46 < ekaj> you have to tell it what file to pull from that directory
04:46 < ekaj> i use the gui version personally
04:46 < rpifan> yea thats what im doing
04:46 < rpifan> the gui seems to want to read hte diectory
04:46 < ekaj> as in open it as text?
04:47 < rpifan> sigh
04:47 < rpifan> how did i lose all my flash drives
04:48 < rpifan> anyway that was a waste of time whats option two that isnt a web service
04:49 < ekaj> you're missing something simple.
04:49 < ekaj> *..
04:49 < MillerBOSS> Say it enix
04:49 < MillerBOSS> And ekaj
04:49 < rpifan> i am something simple
04:49 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> rpifan: Remove the HHD from the windows computer, and put it on the linux machine.
04:49 < ekaj> rpifan: lemme teamviewer in fam
04:49 < rpifan> lol
04:50 < rpifan> to think im doing all of this for free cause the user fucked it up after i fixed it
04:50 < rpifan> i should have actually charged him something more reasonable
04:50 < rpifan> instead of just letting him pay me whatever
04:51 < ekaj> is this a single file or a directory you're trying to move
04:51 < rpifan> yea one directory
04:53 < ekaj> try.. uh... "zip -r directory.zip /path/to/directory/ | mv directory.zip <SCP_users_home_directory> | chown <SCP_user:SCP_user>     /home/<SCP_users_home_directory>/directory.zip" then SCP in and grab that bitch
04:53 < rpifan> nah forget it
04:53 < ekaj> hell do a chmod 777 directory.zip for good measure
04:53 < rpifan> ill keep looking for my flash drive
04:53 < rpifan> somwhere in my bed or seomthing
04:53 < rpifan> under my rolls of fat
04:55 < rpifan> im gonna try and do the python3 web server
04:55 < rpifan> thing
04:55 < rpifan> i wonder if it will host the file
04:58 < rpifan> sigh
04:58 < rpifan> fuck
04:58 < rpifan> even pip is borked on debian
04:58 < rpifan> the fuck is going on
04:59 < MillerBOSS> Lay off the meth
05:00 < MillerBOSS> `chuck
05:01 <+layer-eight> Chuck Norris: "On 21 december 2012 Chuck Norris will align the planets and cause a poleshift."
05:01 < MillerBOSS> `chuck
05:01 <+layer-eight> Chuck Norris: Chuck Norris' penis can unzip itself.
05:01 < MillerBOSS> lol
05:04 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> rpifan: Now you know. Go on Amazon. Buy a 5-pack of 16GB USB drives. Like, right now.
05:07 < MillerBOSS> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17401844
05:07 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS β†’  Oldest domains in the .com, .net, and .org TLDs | Hacker News
05:10 < DrGibby|> fuck
05:10 < DrGibby|> does anyone here have experience with Cisco Service Modules?
05:10 < ekaj> there's a bobcat hanging out outside my computer room, so i went and grabbed a gun
05:10 < ekaj> gonna pop that sucker
05:10 < MillerBOSS> s/uk/uk off cryptic1
05:10 < ekaj> have you tried #cisco gibby?
05:10 < DrGibby|> I need a fucking crash course
05:10 < MillerBOSS> S/ck/ck off cryptic1
05:10 <@cryptic1> O_o
05:11 < DrGibby|> ekaj: I'd like to not get the spergs as much as possible
05:11 < MillerBOSS> the fuck
05:11 <@cryptic1> its gibby!
05:11 < DrGibby|> hi cryptic1
05:11 <@cryptic1> what the hell
05:11 < MillerBOSS> s/ck/ck off cryptic1
05:11 <+layer-eight> [SED MillerBOSS] the fuck off cryptic1
05:11 < MillerBOSS> ffs
05:11 <@cryptic1> D:
05:11 < ekaj> DrGibby|: i almost said that lmao
05:11 < DrGibby|> <3 cryptic1
05:11 <@cryptic1> hehe
05:12 < MillerBOSS> You too better catch up in your own private bedroom.
05:12 < MillerBOSS> And two
05:13 < MillerBOSS> Are you still messing with the SIP and Cisco shit DrGibby| ?
05:15 < DrGibby|> MillerBOSS: we're taking it up a notch tonight
05:15 < DrGibby|> Cisco yes, SIP, notsomuch
05:16 < MillerBOSS> Better be. Notch 9000
05:16 < DrGibby|> 9001*
05:16 < rpifan> im out of money now for real
05:16 < rpifan> oh well
05:16 < rpifan> im giving up fo rnow
05:16 < MillerBOSS> Giving what up rpifan
05:16 < MillerBOSS> Get another job?
05:17 < MillerBOSS> jay-ros πŸ‘‰ right on time
05:17 < jay-ros> Howdy MillerBOSS!
05:17 < MillerBOSS> Welcome http://www.zombo.com/
05:17 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS β†’  ZOMBO
05:18 < jay-ros> you can do anything there
05:18 < jay-ros> anything at all.
05:18 < jay-ros> the impossible is possible at zombocom
05:18 < MillerBOSS> They need to make that flash to html
05:18 < jay-ros> 'if it ain't broke'...
05:19 < jay-ros> it's been around since the 90s
05:19 < MillerBOSS> Until when, 2020, no more Flash
05:20 < MillerBOSS> Looks like someone did that https://html5zombo.com/
05:20 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS β†’  APPLICATION/XHTML+XML Document, 16,495 bytes
05:21 < MillerBOSS> There is a story in source code
05:21 < MillerBOSS> >I wanted zombo.com on my iPad. That is all.
05:22 < jay-ros> ok THAT is amazing
05:22 < MillerBOSS> https://twitter.com/zombocom
05:22 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS β†’  zombocom (@zombocom) | Twitter
05:23 < jay-ros> hahahahahah
05:23 < jay-ros> someone is as stupid as I am, I love it
05:23 < jay-ros> https://twitter.com/A_single_bear
05:23 <+layer-eight> * jay-ros β†’  A bear (@A_single_bear) | Twitter
05:23 < jay-ros> I like this
05:23 < MillerBOSS> The unattainable is unknown at zombocom.
05:25 < jay-ros> Welcome.
05:25 < jay-ros> I'm having a low-energy day
05:26 < jay-ros> Busted foot woke me up at 4.30am
05:26 < jay-ros> not hungry, don't feel like coffee, not really feeling doing a lot of work
05:26 < jay-ros> I've fixed a few things, but the rest I'm kind of trying to avoid
05:31 < misspwn_> if you drink enough grape koolaid your poop will be bright green
05:31 < misspwn_> well more like a turqoise
05:31 < jay-ros> misspwn_ it's one thing to explain it to someone, another for them to experience it
05:32 < misspwn_> well, i've drank a lot of grape koolaid over the past couple days
05:32 < jay-ros> "Why do I look like I've lived predominantly on a diet of GAK(tm) and brussell sprouts?"
05:34 < misspwn_> it first happened to me back when mt dew had that blue mt dew. i think it was the voltage one
05:34 < misspwn_> actually went to the dr because i had a concern
05:35 < jay-ros> "Dr Dr, my poop is blue"
05:35 < jay-ros> Nothing worse than after a red wine and cheese night
05:35 < jay-ros> ...that's a lifechanger.
05:39 < m4221> Hey
05:39 < jay-ros> hi
05:39 < m4221> jay-ros: stop groping me!  cryptic1 halp
05:39 < m4221> Jk
05:39 < jay-ros> If I were to grope you, you wouldn't ask me to stop
05:40 < jay-ros> I've got my technique down and everything
05:41 < jay-ros> It's come to my attention that IBM techs are actually cats
05:42 < jay-ros> ...when they stare you down and push things off counters
05:42 < m4221> As40p guys?
05:43 < jay-ros> what's that?
05:43 < m4221> jay-ros: as400 stuff?
05:43 < jay-ros> Oh, no, SOC, networking
05:43 < jay-ros> "I want this NAT object renamed" "Ok, deleting NAT object"
05:44 < jay-ros> :| "no, I want you to change the name of it" "ok, confirmed you want to rename the NAT object"
05:44 < jay-ros> ...they deleted it
05:45 < jay-ros> then, in the morning, I jump on a call with mis herman Andreas Fernandez Rubez Vasquilla (or something similar)
05:47 < rpifan> the nice thing about moving every 9 months
05:47 < rpifan> it makes cleaning easier
05:47 < rpifan> everything goes in the trash
05:47 < rpifan> insurance cards are irreleavent etc
05:47 < jay-ros> rpifan - problem is when you cleaned last time, and you've got too much stuff to move still
05:47 < jay-ros> (I move home tomorrow)
05:47 < rpifan> yea its been 9 months my room is a wreck a hoaders paradise
05:48 < rpifan> serious question yall
05:48 < rpifan> i ahve a lot of electronics cell phone laptop
05:48 < rpifan> how do i dispose of them securly
05:48 < rpifan> the cell phones probably still have data in the internal drive
05:48 < jay-ros> dban on the laptops
05:49 < rpifan> im more concerned about the cell phones
05:49 < jay-ros> running dban on a device does a re-write on data
05:49 < jay-ros> yeah cell phones I have no idea
05:49 < jay-ros> ...a hammer?
05:49 < jay-ros> large vehicle?
05:49 < rpifan> but wont the shards of glass explode in my face
05:49 < jay-ros> depends if you're under the vehicle with the phone or not
05:50 < rpifan> il have to ask in the morning when more ppl are around
05:51 < jay-ros> https://www.computerworld.com/article/3243253/android/how-to-securely-erase-your-android-device-in-4-steps.html
05:51 < jay-ros> or google it
05:51 <+layer-eight> * jay-ros β†’  How to securely erase your Android device in 4 steps | Computerworld
05:55 < rpifan> cant really log back into it
05:56 < rpifan> at least due to my somewhat cleaning i found the flash
05:56 < rpifan> drive
05:56 < rpifan> but im still missing two
05:56 < rpifan> idk where they went
05:56 < rpifan> still gotta empty out the the closet
05:56 < MadCamel> phones are pretty easy to wipe. generally the phone should be encrypted so just factory wiping it should destroy the key and bob's your uncle.
05:57 < rpifan> well....
05:57 < rpifan> i never have encryped my phones
05:57 < rpifan> even my current one
05:58 < MadCamel> oh. Well the above is a good reason to start heh.
05:58 < MillerBOSS> Unless you have something old its automatic
05:58 < rpifan> lineage os
06:02 < MadCamel> hm. I can think of two ways to secure-wipe a phone: reset & fill all writeable partitions with large files and delete them.. or if you have root and want to be safe just nuke the flash completely and use the manufacturers tools to re-flash an OS on it
06:03 <@Nostalg14c> just physically destroy it
06:03 <@Nostalg14c> fuck wasting time flashing it
06:03 < genr8_> just toss it on the ground and step on the screen
06:03 < genr8_> thatll do it...
06:04 < MadCamel> generally with flash storage it's advised to always encrypt. You have no idea what the controller's doing under the hood with block remapping etc and small amounts of data can be recovered
06:04 < rpifan> one phone has a dead usb port
06:04 < rpifan> so no way to turn it back on
06:04 < jay-ros> Just get some nitric acid and drop the phones in there
06:04 < MadCamel> throw it in a bonfire or on the grill
06:05 < jay-ros> ...make sure you don't pour the nitric acid down the drain when you're done though
06:05 < jay-ros> rpifan: do you have access to lava
06:05 < MadCamel> idk if nitric acid would disolve the ceramic package the chips are in?
06:05 < jay-ros> madcamel no, but the cable shields will, which means you'd need to resolder the whole thing
06:06 < jay-ros> ...I'd say that'd be effective enough
06:07 < MadCamel> yeah
06:09 <@JollyRgrs> so who all here knows how to #git?
06:10 < MadCamel> well, generally /join #git works
06:10 <@JollyRgrs> tryin to do git with powershell and noob questions
06:10 <@JollyRgrs> lol
06:10 <@JollyRgrs> u funny man
06:10 < MadCamel> I use it every day but not under powershell
06:10 <@JollyRgrs> well, this is just under vs code, it uses git for windows
06:11 <@JollyRgrs> but right now i don't understand the whole structure (branches, master/ref/header/whatever stuff)... so i'm lost when i run into errors :P
06:11 <@JollyRgrs> i created a blank git repo, i synced it to vs code, i added 2 files and went to commit changes... all kinda errs
06:12 <@JollyRgrs> i know i prob missed 100 steps between
06:12 < hello_kitty> Can I make a tcp program (node.js) use ssl by proxying the tcp server in nginx? and what would the syntax of the connection be..? https://something..?   a raw ip+port..?
06:13 < MadCamel> doesn't sound like you missed much. starting up a new repo the workflow is init, add, commit.
06:13 <@JollyRgrs> :(
06:13 < MadCamel> hello_kitty: yes you can. google can tell you how. "nginx reverse proxy ssl"
06:13 <@JollyRgrs> i don't need to make a new branch or anything?
06:14 < MadCamel> nope, no branching etc for that.
06:17 < rpifan> anyone good at troubleshooting python 3 pip issues
06:17 < hello_kitty> MadCamel: what about the connection url?  can I proxy https://api.example.com/tcp-end-point  to  127.0.0.1:7999 (just an example)... or is it bad form to answer a tcp connection (as opposed to an https connection) on port 443?  Also presumably i'd have to upgrade the client that makes the connection to use TLS right..?
06:18 < hello_kitty> so far i've got just a regular node net (raw tcp) client and server.. but i'm getting them ready for production and trying to work ssl into it
06:18 < MadCamel> hello_kitty: if you just want to proxy tcp instead of http all you need is stunnel or socat. if you want to terminate https and send it to a http server you want nginx as a reverse proxy.
06:19 < MadCamel> tbh the node app should be made to support tls natively but we all know it's not a perfect world
06:20 <@JollyRgrs> MadCamel: ok, i think i got it... it never initialized?
06:20 <@JollyRgrs> i went to the website and it suggested i "start" my project by initializing with a README.md
06:20 <@JollyRgrs> after that, it made it the master branch
06:20 < MadCamel> JollyRgrs: branching is useful when you want to modify the code but not hose anything. Instead of making a backup and then fooling around with a file you just make a branch and work on your own private(or rarely, shared) version of the project. Then merge the changes back in to the main project later.
06:20 <@JollyRgrs> origin/master
06:20 <@JollyRgrs> yeah, that's one of the main reasons i want to git my scripts
06:21 <@JollyRgrs> so i can branch off and try something crazy and if it fails, i just give up and start back from the last working
06:21 < hello_kitty> i've made the same program twice, once is raw 'net' (which i think doesnt do ssl), and another time in TLS. But I think I'm realizing that I'm in half and half situation..... the tcp server might not actually need TLS on the node side b/c nginx can do the ssl encryption itself.. meanwhile the tcp client (also node, running on other servers) sounds like it does need to be a tls client
06:22 < MadCamel> bingo. If the master branch is there then you created a repo. or just look for a .git folder heh.
06:22 <@JollyRgrs> yeah, so i'm getting there
06:22 <@JollyRgrs> now stupid vs code says fatal: unable to auto-detect email address :(
06:23 < hello_kitty> maybe for sanity i'll just make both the server and client TLS in node, and leave nginx out of it for the ssl
06:23 < MadCamel> okay that's easy JollyRgrs, you need to setup your name and email. git config --global user.name "JollyRgrs" and git config --global user.email "[email address]"
06:24 < MadCamel> every commit is logged with your name and email so those are two very important settings that have no default
06:24 <@JollyRgrs> so it says (got 'JollyRgrs@JollysDesktop.(none)')
06:24 <@JollyRgrs> so that's what it is trying to use currently?
06:25 <@JollyRgrs> oh, hold on
06:25 < MadCamel> that's VS trying to figure it outfor you. if you drop to commandline and do the above you'll bypass all that..
06:25 <@JollyRgrs> while setting up i told it i wanted my email private and it gave me a email to use to mask it
06:25 < MadCamel> hello_kitty: yes a server's pretty useless without a client :P really most nodejs apps can be made to use TLS very very easily, talk to the developer about it
06:26 < MadCamel> time to zonk
06:26 < rpifan> zonk is fuck isnt it
06:26 < jay-ros> I've got my zonkin' pants on
06:26 < jay-ros> and my zonkin' headband
06:27 < MadCamel> I wish. Deadest bedroom ever. If the person in it didn't make me laugh every day I'd evict 'em.
06:27 < Church-> Heya MadCamel
06:32 <@JollyRgrs> MadCamel: woo! so it seems there's no GUI part i just have to git config user.name and user.email
06:32 <@JollyRgrs> now it works
06:33 <@JollyRgrs> WOO!
06:33 <@JollyRgrs> LOOK AT ME! I CAN GIT!
06:33 <@JollyRgrs> i still need to learn to git gud, but i'm finally making progress
06:34 <@JollyRgrs> it seems silly, but for like 3 or 4 yrs it has been on my "todo" list to setup git
06:38  * MillerBOSS claps for JollyRgrs 
06:38 <@JollyRgrs> thanks MillerBOSS
06:38 <@JollyRgrs> :P
06:38 < MillerBOSS> You are ahead of me. I don't get git
06:39 < MillerBOSS> I'll have to read up a few lines
06:39  * DrGibby| pats JollyRgrs on the back
06:39 < DrGibby|> good git'n it
06:39 < DrGibby|> also dongs
06:39 <@JollyRgrs> DrGibby|: long time no see, traveler
06:40 < MillerBOSS> Anyone that watches twit.tv found a free node channel ##twitlive
06:40 < DrGibby|> ye
06:40 < DrGibby|> thanks :)
06:40 < DrGibby|> I'm pretty sure what I'm about to configure is going to be counterproductive to what I need when I figure out this service module
06:40 < DrGibby|> but
06:40 < DrGibby|> fuckit.txt
06:41 < MillerBOSS> s/xt/xt.exe
06:41 <+layer-eight> [SED MillerBOSS/DrGibby|] fuckit.txt.exe
06:41 < DrGibby|> more like
06:41 < rootsudo> Whoring yourself out on LinkedIn
06:41 < rootsudo> is how you get good jobs
06:42 < DrGibby|> http://thisis.absolutelymalware.com/files/fuckit.txt.exe
06:42 < DrGibby|> err
06:43 < DrGibby|> lol
06:43 < DrGibby|> I haven't checked on that host in a long time
06:43 < DrGibby|> apparently its dead
06:43 <@JollyRgrs> MillerBOSS: i used to listen to a few of those podcasts... twit not as much, but security now and the home theater one
06:43 <@JollyRgrs> i thought their chan was on their own irc server, wasn't it?
06:44 < MillerBOSS> Yeah but I can't get on using a ZNC. They got it heavily locked down because of trolls.
06:44 <@JollyRgrs> did it move or is this just the unofficial for those too lazy to add a manual new server to their irc list?
06:44 < MillerBOSS> I watch it live a lot too
06:44 <@JollyRgrs> i like steve
06:44 < MillerBOSS> unofficial.
06:44 < MillerBOSS> Yup. I do too
06:44 <@JollyRgrs> i've just not had enough time/interest to get into those again
06:44 <@JollyRgrs> used to listen while i was driving around in my geek squad bug
06:45 < MillerBOSS> Well they are there to download at any time :P
06:45 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> JollyRgrs: You pimp. Gettin' ALL the WoW ladies.
06:45 <@JollyRgrs> haha... no?
06:45 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> lol
06:45 <@JollyRgrs> but i did fix a few computers for grandma aged ladies who needed to get their WoW fix
06:45 <@JollyRgrs> one did an emergency call
06:45 <@JollyRgrs> so like... $500 or so, for me to come out at the end of my shift and fix their PC b/c it was raid night
06:46 <@JollyRgrs> like 65-70 yr old lady
06:46 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Nice.
06:46 <@JollyRgrs> i did have a few daughters offered to me, though
06:46 <@JollyRgrs> kinda creepy
06:46 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Death Knight Tanks too, I bet.
06:46 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> LOL
06:46 <@JollyRgrs> the mom was like "see my daughter? she's on that picture on my mouse pad... do you think she's pretty?"
06:46 < rootsudo> JollyRgrs that always happens in asia
06:46 <@JollyRgrs> rootsudo: but this is in US
06:46 < rootsudo> JollyRgrs well, what do you want me to say, sorry they're fat?
06:47 <@JollyRgrs> haha
06:49 <@JollyRgrs> MadCamel: so now that i got git working on visual studio's site (b/c it is private and free)... now i need to work on how to clone certain works over to github to make some of the scripts public
06:49 <@JollyRgrs> that sounds like a normal thing, right?
06:50 < DrGibby|> I forgot I have an unlimited mega.nz account
06:50 < DrGibby|> >.>
06:50 < MillerBOSS> Fill it up bbe
06:50 <@JollyRgrs> DrGibby|: you missed shoh on here earlier
06:51 < DrGibby|> oh trust me
06:51 < DrGibby|> I didn't
06:51 <@JollyRgrs> hahaha
06:51 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> No one likes Shoh?
06:51 <@JollyRgrs> SysAdminGoneCraZ: i like shoh
06:51 < DrGibby|> as do I
06:51 <@JollyRgrs> but he's a cocksucker
06:51 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> lol
06:51 <@JollyRgrs> you gotta love him for who he is
06:51 < DrGibby|> he, and others I know are all in a private chat
06:51 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> I think that applies to a lot of people
06:52 <@JollyRgrs> i bet you are
06:53 <@JollyRgrs> so by private chat you mean just a rando channel for just you guys, or outside of irc?
06:53 < DrGibby|> not on IRC
06:53 < DrGibby|> crude was it before the spergs started to join
06:53  * MillerBOSS slaps DrGibby| 
06:53 < rpifan> im a pserg
06:54 < DrGibby|> yes, yes you are, rpifan
06:54 < genr8_> i say we start a new private chat
06:54 <@JollyRgrs> crude, i think i joined that chan once
06:54 < DrGibby|> did I kick you repeatedly?
06:54 < DrGibby|> because thats SOP
06:54 <@JollyRgrs> genr8_: i hear #bearcave on efnet is a good one
06:55 <@JollyRgrs> DrGibby|: no, it was just ppl being "shoh"s to each other
06:55 < DrGibby|> I read that as "beercave"
06:55 < DrGibby|> and I was about to join
06:55 <@JollyRgrs> it was like walking into a bar and being roasted
06:55 < DrGibby|> oh
06:55 <@JollyRgrs> it was like "meh" and i just /parted
06:55 < DrGibby|> yeah, must have been fairly recent
06:55 <@JollyRgrs> i can dish, but i did that years ago on moh:aa forums
06:55 <@JollyRgrs> maybe 3 y rs ago?
06:55 <@JollyRgrs> 2 at the most
06:55 <@JollyRgrs> err, least
06:57 < rpifan> yes
06:57 < rpifan> whats the new chat
06:57 < rpifan> i want a gay one
06:57 < MillerBOSS> ##gayrpifan
06:57 < MillerBOSS> Oh
06:57 < MillerBOSS> ##gayfan
06:58 < rpifan> lets join gayfan
06:58 < rpifan> im waiting
06:58 < MillerBOSS> Nope you are banned. I already registered it
06:59 < enix> lol /parted
06:59 < rpifan> nop im in there
07:00 < rpifan> AustinS, is in there too
07:00 < AustinS> yep big party
07:02  * enix is cool now too
07:03 < enix> So I have CentOS 7 minimal installed and i3 running in the most barebones way
07:03 < enix> I'm pretty fucking happy to have gotten this done today
07:03  * jay-ros isn't cool, but he doesn't mind
07:04 < DrGibby|> oooooooook
07:04 < jay-ros> enix - what're you using it for
07:04 < jay-ros> Hi afternooon people :)
07:04 < DrGibby|> a dildo
07:04 < DrGibby|> also, hello, jay-ros
07:04 < enix> jay-ros: desktop at work
07:04 < jay-ros> DrGibby|, what does CentOS 7 minimal offer as a sexual toy that, say, RHEL doesn't?
07:05 < jay-ros> or openSUSE
07:05 < rpifan> suse is for cheating germans
07:05 < DrGibby|> well, you dont have to pay for CentOS
07:05 < DrGibby|> so...
07:05 < jay-ros> free sex... got it.
07:05 < rpifan>   /topic join ##gayfan
07:06 < DrGibby|> difference between picking up someone at the bar and paying a hooker
07:06 < enix> JollyRgrs: can you make me op for a sec?
07:07 < rpifan> can u pay the hooker that u pick up at the bar
07:07 < jay-ros> ^ valid.
07:08 < DrGibby|> if you have to pay for sex, its not free
07:08 < enix> what? you think you're going to get a better root from a hooker than a random encounter?
07:09 < jay-ros> enix - Best practise is to have a hooker at the bar, a hooker back at home, and a hooker in storage, so you have hooker access if the bar closes, or if you lock yourself out of your home
07:09 < jay-ros> ...and you can always pull the hooker out of storage if everything goes wrong at the same time
07:09 < enix> redundancy 101
07:09  * enix can't think of a pun involving hookers/prostitutes and redundancy
07:10 < gnupluslinux> i got hooks on hooks on hooks
07:10 < rpifan> git clone hooker
07:13 < jay-ros> enix - new laws mean you need to make sure your hosted hookers are kept inside of the country?
07:13 < jay-ros> hookers in the cloud
07:13 < jay-ros> Also "Hi, I'm Jay-Ros"..."Hi! I'm Stacey! <seems like a good name> I've recently changed my terms of service, do you want me to tell you about them?"
07:14 < enix> LOl
07:15 < jay-ros> Pay by the hour hotels are now classified as IaaS
07:16 < enix> Just make sure you lock access to them down with keys. you dont want some random trying to finger her or something
07:16 < enix> or him... sorry rpifan
07:17 < jay-ros> Oh no, proper SSL techniques, you send them from your home to the bar with a padlock on a chastity belt, then there you put on a second padlock, send them back home, unlock the first chastity belt, then when they get back to the bar, unlock the second padlock
07:18 < jay-ros> finger [-lmsp ] [hooker ... ] [hooker@home ... ]
07:18 < enix> and pray to god there isn't a man in the middle attack
07:18 < jay-ros> was that your finger joke?
07:18 < enix> yeah
07:18 < jay-ros> nice
07:18 < jay-ros> took me a minute
07:18 < enix> lol :P
07:18 < enix> Just make sure they dont speak english so that noone will understand the cryptic stuff they say
07:18 < jay-ros> They only get down and dirty when you yell out the sudo password
07:19 < enix> Well they have to be sure before they give out root access
07:19 < enix> (in australia, root is a word for sex)
07:20 < jay-ros> dude... sydneysider :)
07:20 < enix> how do you see who's connected to a chan
07:21 < enix> jay-ros: oh right. I moved to QLD btw; Sunny Coast :)
07:21 < jay-ros> connected to the channel? I've got the side pane which shows me
07:21 < jay-ros> yeah, how's that going?
07:22 < enix> found it
07:22 < enix> slash names
07:22 < enix> Yeah really good. Jobs awesome, got the house to myself which is fantastic (renting). Looking around at buying but soooo many people from sydney seem to be blindly buying shit up here
07:22 < enix> It's really changed developments etc.
07:22 < enix> And pushed price up >:(
07:26 < jay-ros> QLD is always a shonky purchase if you don't know where though...
07:26 < jay-ros> because there's areas which shot up due to work for infrastructure (major roadways) which then closed and nobody lives there
07:26 < MillerBOSS> Just move to the USA.
07:26 < jay-ros> south brisbane is a minefield for properties that noone rents
07:26 < MillerBOSS> Leave AU behind
07:26 < jay-ros> MillerBOSS - what's the benefit of US?
07:26 < jay-ros> We have canadian style healthcare
07:27 < MillerBOSS> Duh. Its AMERICA!
07:27 < enix> well i live here and want to buy somewhere :P
07:27 < enix> jay-ros: US > AU tbh
07:27 < enix> not gonna lie
07:28 < jay-ros> You really think so/
07:28 < jay-ros> ?
07:29 < enix> Honestly, personally, absolutely
07:29 < enix> and im a pretty proud aussie
07:29 < jay-ros> Fair enough. I'm happy here. Might do UK at some point
07:30 < enix> Just move to melbourne. Same same but cheaper
07:31 < jay-ros> Yeah, but I work corporate, so Sydney's going to be my jam for a looong time
07:34 < enix> Yeah you get kinda stuck there in corporate
07:35 < enix> not a bad life for a while tbh if you live it well
07:35 <+A-KO> hmm
07:35 <+A-KO> time to take apart the PC again
07:35 <+A-KO> wooo
07:36 < jay-ros> The only thing is affordable housing - my plan is to buy in melbourne, up near carlton
07:36 < jay-ros> 1 bed apartments there are in the mid 300-s for a decent place
07:42 <@Nostalg14c> For fuck sake.
07:42 <@Nostalg14c> Not sure if temper getting shorter or people are getting more retarded.
07:43 < namol> i believe that's the mark of a senior sysadmin
07:43 < namol> the level of not caring and not suffering fools
07:48 < abakedapplepie> Nostalg14c: little of column a, little of column b
07:51 < enix> Nostalg14c: you're just getting old you dad fucker
07:51 <@Nostalg14c> Pardon.
07:51 < enix> I said
07:51 <@Nostalg14c> You're probably older than me.
07:51 < enix> you're just getting old you dad fucker
07:51 < MillerBOSS> s/dad/mother
07:51 <+layer-eight> [SED MillerBOSS/enix] you're just getting old you mother fucker
07:52 < enix> s/mother/dad
07:52 < enix> Nostalg14c: prob not ay
07:52 < MillerBOSS> Negative. layer-eight is too smart
07:52 <@Nostalg14c> Is your birth year in the 80's or 90's
07:52 < enix> 90s
07:52 <@Nostalg14c> Bloody young-uns.
07:52 < enix> lmfao
07:52 <@Nostalg14c> Nah mine is too.
07:52 < enix> before or after 95
07:53 <@Nostalg14c> Christ.
07:53 <@Nostalg14c> I'm not a toddler
07:53 < enix> before?
07:53 < abakedapplepie> lol
07:53 < enix> ASL?
07:53 <@Nostalg14c> 14/f/cal
07:53 < enix> hawt
07:53 <@Nostalg14c> Ugh, what is this oneDrive fuckery nonsense.
07:53 < enix> you cyber bb?
07:53 <@Nostalg14c> Needs to be installed for EACH user.
07:53 < abakedapplepie> oh man one drive is great
07:54 < enix> Nostalg14c: it's evernote except dropbox
07:54 < abakedapplepie> /s
07:54 < enix> kinda like apple cloud
07:54 < enix> But more like google drive.
07:54 <@Nostalg14c> And MS's SCCM tempate for it doesnt work as intended.
07:54 < abakedapplepie> dynamics requires one drive for customer engagement for some reason
07:54 < abakedapplepie> didnt quite figure that out
07:56 < enix> if telstra ever try to force you to use their firewall
07:57 < enix> rudely tell them to go fuck themselves.
07:57 < jay-ros> enix++
07:57 < jay-ros> or their IBM managed MPLS
07:57 < jay-ros> bunch of numpties
07:57 < MillerBOSS> My cam is on. I am getting undressed now. Connect with me here at http://millerboss.com/fuckmenow
07:57 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS β†’  βš“  https://millerboss.com/fuckmenow β†’ Who you gonna call?
07:58 <@Nostalg14c> ......
07:58  * MillerBOSS grabs Nostalg14c 
08:01  * enix should probably know mpls
08:03 < enix> jack daniels in australia may go up 10% :(
08:03 < enix> Thanks to trump
08:03 < enix> VOTE THAT CUNT OUT
08:03 < enix> OH FUCK
08:03 < enix> I'm out of bundy...
08:08 < MillerBOSS> Uh, vote you out enix. That is why you just com ehere
08:08 < MillerBOSS> s/com/cum
08:08 <+layer-eight> [SED MillerBOSS] Uh, vote you out enix. That is why you just cum ehere
08:17 < enix> Google analytics; is that forced for javascript or can i do php?
08:19 < abakedapplepie> enix: what do you mean
08:20 < abakedapplepie> anything with php requires a page load
08:22 < rpifan> its kinda hard to believe that u can find ebook on ebay from textbooks just by adding pdf to it
08:22 < DrGibby|> or epub
08:22 < rpifan> yea
08:22 < rpifan> though sometimes i do want the physical thing
08:23 < rpifan> cause it stares u down
08:23 < plop> morning guys
08:23 <@Nostalg14c> enix: forced js
08:23 < enix> Eh I'll just do JS and try get it to work
08:23 < enix> Nostalg14c: spewin'
08:24 <@Nostalg14c> why
08:24 < enix> They want to run it on a public hotspot page and i'm like 'errr that's not really how life works ay'
08:24 < rpifan> hi
08:24 < enix> So I'll have to figure out how to get it going out to the world, because the info wont get sent to google
08:24 <@Nostalg14c> lol
08:24 < enix> Any whooooooo
08:24 <@Nostalg14c> There's plenty of hosted analytics you can use. but yeah.
08:24 < enix> Nostalg14c: join ##gayfan
08:24 <@Nostalg14c> gl hf.
08:24 <@Nostalg14c> no htanks.
08:24 <@Nostalg14c> my gf is gay, thats enough for me.
08:25 < enix> haha yeah there's a couple I want to try but I haven't got the time at the moment
08:25 < enix> thank you kickball!
08:25 < enix> Cya's in 20
08:25 < enix> byeeeeee
08:25 < DrGibby|> fuck me my burps are so acidic that they make my nose run and eyes tear up
08:25 < LemWork> wondering why I'm getting hundreds of bounced emails from our ticketing system... someone manually added a user as a CC to all replies and put in there address incorrectly
08:26 <@Nostalg14c> lol
08:26 <@Nostalg14c> their*
08:26 < LemWork> the ticketing system would try and send it, the server would bounce it for that recipient, the ticket would get the bounce message added to it, that would then trigger another email
08:26 < LemWork> repeat ad infinitum
08:27 < abakedapplepie> BAD TICKET SYSTEM!
08:27 < abakedapplepie> you should spank it
08:27 < LemWork> misconfigured ticket system + derpy user
08:27 < abakedapplepie> spank the user too
08:27 < Ploppinger> morning
08:27 < abakedapplepie> just have them sign something first
08:28 < LemWork> knowing which user caused it... I'd actually love to spank her :-P
08:28 < abakedapplepie> girls have cooties
08:31 < niklasye> LemWork but do you have her public gpg key?
08:31 < niklasye> step 1
08:31 < LemWork> lol
08:32 < niklasye> "Hey babe, wanna come to my keysigning party? Let's build a web of trust.."
08:32 < niklasye> I'll give your key trust level 5 ;)
08:45 <@Nostalg14c> fuck fuck fuck
08:45 < plop> keep it SFW Nostalg14c. thanks.
08:46 <@Nostalg14c> just deleteed the wrong dhcp configs..
08:46 < MillerBOSS> That is super safe for work plop
08:46 < MillerBOSS> Nostalg14c πŸ‘‰ Just get your backup file.
08:46 < plop> sup MillerBOSS
08:46  * MillerBOSS waits for Nostalg14c's response
08:47 < plop> all the backup is safe in the raid0
08:47 < MillerBOSS> Attempting to get things done plop but I could be doing better. :)
08:47 < MillerBOSS> RAID0 is a backup.
08:47 <@Nostalg14c> Yeah... just copied the backup folder over the top again.
08:47 < MillerBOSS> Probably one of the best.
08:47 <@Nostalg14c> Just generally not good to stop prod services and delete their entire configs.
08:47 < MillerBOSS> How else are you gonna fly strong?
08:48 <@Nostalg14c> Thankfully dhcp is probably the.... easiest/quickest recoverable service.
08:50 < togenshi> Nostalg14c: do use use windows DHCP?
08:51 <@Nostalg14c> ye
08:51 < togenshi> do you have it set up in a fallback configuration
08:51 < togenshi> ?
08:51 < togenshi> *failover
08:51 <@Nostalg14c> Not for this client.
08:51 <@Nostalg14c> Just single dhcp servers at each site.
08:52 < togenshi> fair enough
08:52 <@Nostalg14c> Anyway. We have a client that wants us to do a performance check on some servers for an application.
08:52 <@Nostalg14c> But they won't give me remote access.
08:52 <@Nostalg14c> And insist they have a screen sharing session.
08:52 <@Nostalg14c> But I Have to fucking DIRECT some dude what to click & type.
08:52 <@Nostalg14c> Like ughhh what the good fuckn lord.
08:52 < togenshi> lol
08:53 < togenshi> rip
08:53 < plop> lol
08:53 <@Nostalg14c> "we need to be cautious because the system is in prod"
08:53 < plop> - more to the left, no, not this one, the other one. THE ONE IN THE LEFT!
08:53 <@Nostalg14c> yeah no shit idiot, wha tdo you think we are some 12 year old kids clickin around
08:53 <@Nostalg14c> fuckn hel
08:53 <@Nostalg14c> Like why hire someone to do a job, and then completely impede their ability to work.
08:54 < plop> Nostalg14c, well, you just deleted some config from a prod server.
08:54 <@Nostalg14c> Hm, if a dhcp server goes down in the middle of a forest.
08:54 <@Nostalg14c> Did it really go down?
08:54 < togenshi> depends if you need dns
08:54 < plop> lol
08:55 <@Nostalg14c> for real have to bite my tongue and not reply
08:55 <@Nostalg14c> while i see red.
08:59 < humpaxx> GomorrnΒ΄ everyone
09:00 < niklasye> humpaxx gooomorron!
09:02 < humpaxx> niklasye: Gry Forsell hΓ€r, du lyssna pΓ₯ Lix megapooool!
09:02 < humpaxx> s/lyssna/lyssnar
09:02 <+layer-eight> [SED humpaxx] niklasye: Gry Forsell hΓ€r, du lyssnar pΓ₯ Lix megapooool!
09:02 < niklasye> :D now we are talking
09:05 < humpaxx> Just noticed i misspelled Mix as well.. Im at my 2nd cup of coffee so i shouldΒ΄ve done better
09:05 < niklasye> I'm on my second jug of coffee
09:06 < niklasye> but I started over 4 hours ago :D
09:15 < jay-ros> 1,340mb update on my samsung s7... I feel this might be the big one!
09:15 < jay-ros> come on oreo!
09:16 < humpaxx> jay-ros: "Minor text fixes"
09:16 < jay-ros> hahahahah
09:16 < jay-ros> "more emojis"
09:17 < humpaxx> Updated emojis * (new colors for faces)
09:17 < humpaxx> and hands *
09:18 < jay-ros> Oh, I have a south american friend, and in whatsapp when I do the 'white fist to right' the smart bar suggests 'brown fist to left' for interracial fist bump
09:19 < humpaxx> How multicultural and PC
09:20 < jay-ros> samsung ignores racial nuances quite well
09:20 < humpaxx> I have the S9 now but the bluetooth is acting up and i havent bothered figuring out my samsung acct password so i havenΒ΄t added samsung pay yet either. But i have it on my S7 so i might go back :p
09:21 < jay-ros> the s9 is great for bluetooth I've been told - from the s8 up you can add multiple bluetooth devices?
09:21 < jay-ros> I'm keep for it (need to upgrade) because I can add my gf's headphones and my own for music on the motorbike
09:21 < jay-ros> turn the road into a dancefloor for two!
09:36 < Wannabejrsysadm> hello
09:36 < Wannabejrsysadm> anyone here ?
09:36 <+ktechmidas> Nope
09:36 < humpaxx> jay-ros: Yeah but mine seem a bit glitchy or something, i have my gear s3 and a jabra headset connected and like 60% of the times when i make outgoing calls i have to click the bluetooth button in the dialer so it switches to phone and then bluetooth again to get sound in the headset
09:37 < humpaxx> Wannabejrsysadm: Yes but im halfheartedly working :p
09:37 < jay-ros> humpaxx - i'm not so worried about phone calls, just audio output to headphones
09:37 <+ktechmidas> damn macbook... taking forever to restore
09:37 < Wannabejrsysadm> i'm gonna enable the AD recycle bin on my AD controllers, was wondering if upgrading the forestlevel and domain lvl from 2003 to 2008 R2 can break shit
09:37 < jay-ros> I've got a pair of anker headphones (which are pretty good for the price), and outputting to two of them would be nice for sharing music
09:38 < jay-ros> wannabejrsysadmin - raise all of the domain controllers, then the forest level
09:39 < jay-ros> https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/help/322692/how-to-raise-active-directory-domain-and-forest-functional-levels
09:39 < jay-ros> oh, old doc, never mind, find the new one :)
09:39 <+ktechmidas> https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/8u69pg/i_had_to_update_the_wiki_i_am_not_known_for_being/?st=jiwt5lpl&sh=cba5a55c
09:39 <+layer-eight> * ktechmidas β†’  I had to update the Wiki. I am not known for being subtle. : sysadmin
09:39 <+ktechmidas> hah
09:40 <+ktechmidas> that's brilliant
09:40 < jay-ros> I like that one
09:40 < jay-ros> righto guys, I'm out. Peace!
09:40 <+ktechmidas> I do wonder what that box is actually running though
09:40 <+ktechmidas> have a good one jay-ros
09:54 < humpaxx> ugh.. I just chugged the last of a cup of coffe that had just reached that temprature where is just above being undrinkable/too cold
09:54 < humpaxx> I have regrets
09:55 <+ktechmidas> hm... this mac has said 30 minutes left and not moved for the past hour
09:55 <+ktechmidas> I swear to god if it got stuck reinstalling OSX...
09:59 < Wannabejrsysadm> so guys, can i break my AD with upgrading the functional levels ?
10:05 <@Nostalg14c> unlikely.
10:05 <@Nostalg14c> I'd go with "no" but anything is possible.
10:11 < vader-> More likely to break exchange or skype
10:12 < vader-> If you are running them and depending on their supported levels
10:18 < Atro> shocking discovery by my team leader: if you teach first-job juniors to do awesome shit, they won't be so inclined to do less-than-awesome shit
10:19 < Atro> tl;dr wireless juniper freaked out when asked to perform a quick and dirty survey at a client
10:19 < Atro> *wireless junior
10:55 < humpaxx> Atro: DonΒ΄t you have PFYs for that?
10:56 < humpaxx> I dont so i have to do that kinds of stuff too.
10:58 < Atro> humpaxx: whats a PFY ?
10:58 < combatdud3> Atro: Pimply Faced Youth
10:58 < Atro> lol
10:59 < humpaxx> It was coined by the guy that writes BOFH on theregister, right?
10:59 < combatdud3> Yup
10:59 < combatdud3> Such a great read
11:00 < humpaxx> From wikipedia.. "The Bastard Operator From Hell (BOFH) is a fictional rogue computer operator who takes out his anger on users and others who pester him with their computer .."
11:00 < humpaxx> Such of great description
11:00 < humpaxx> much good
11:12 < combatdud3> It lacks mention of cattle prods
11:12 < combatdud3> and elevators
11:14 < humpaxx> combatdud3: the etherkiller isnΒ΄t enough for you?
11:14 < combatdud3> Fairly sure the lift has a larger body count
11:15 < humpaxx> But i feel like lift stuff is out of scope for BOFH
11:16 < humpaxx> I noiced the automatic sliding door openers have an rj45 interface, i wonder if a normal serial to networkcable adapter would work to do stuff with it
11:33 < ceofreak> Hua, forgot to start the irc chat
11:33 < ceofreak> internet relay chat chat
11:45 < hello_kitty> ive got a few dozen node applications that connect to a central server, at which point the central server knows their ip addresses... is there a sane way to figure out the public domain assocaited with these applications? They're all stuff like app1.example.com
11:48 < hello_kitty> my default plan is to write a lookup for each item, like  app1.example.com: 123.123.123.123
11:49 < humpaxx> hello_kitty: like DNS-stuff? isnΒ΄t that what a PTR record is?
11:50 < humpaxx> I mean it sounds like PTR records is what you are looking for
11:51 < hello_kitty> humpaxx: i'm not sure.. when i try a PTR look up i get my linode member domain name
11:51 < hello_kitty> whereas i was hoping for like.. app1.something.com
11:52 < ceofreak> How hard is it to add more storage to an ec2 instance?
11:52 < ceofreak> or to extend the existing one
11:53 < AustinS> ceofreak, much easier now.. you can resize EBS volumes live/on the fly, and depending what filesystem on the OS, can resize live as well
11:53 < ceofreak> damn
11:53 < AustinS> just find EBS volume and right click/modify
11:54 < ceofreak> Holy shi
11:54 < ceofreak> this is incredible
11:55 < ceofreak> thanks AustinS
11:55 < AustinS> i knowww. was one of the best improvements/changes that came last year sometime
11:55 < AustinS> :)
11:55 < ceofreak> Amazing
11:55 < ceofreak> I thought I have to go through a tideous process of re-partitioning and shit
11:55 < AustinS> DECREASING is another story... :P but yeah increasing is insanely simple/quick now
11:56 < humpaxx> Hm, is there such a thing as a docker cluster with load balancing? (or some other container system instead of a whole OS on top of like esxi with vmotion)
11:57 < humpaxx> Would a self-hosted kubernetes cluster do this?
12:22 < Workflow> Morning everyone
12:49 <+A-KO> oh ffs
13:09 < humpaxx> Anyone know where i could buy a gen8 microserver? (from a place that ships to to sweden)
13:13 <+giant_it_burrit> Reeeee
13:17 < humpaxx> giant_it_burrit: All i find when i google reeeee are online tests for autism
13:17 < humpaxx> and memes
13:26 < ceofreak> AustinS?
13:41 <+ktechmidas> evening
13:41 <+ktechmidas> one more day in this hell
13:41 <+ktechmidas> \o/
13:43 < humpaxx> ktechmidas: two? its just wednesday
13:44 <+ktechmidas> humpaxx, I went and got myself stuck in a very expensive city due to my passport having issues
13:44 <+ktechmidas> I *wish* I was at work
13:45 < humpaxx> ktechmidas: Oh youΒ΄re the guy stuck in HK?
13:45 <+ktechmidas> Yup
13:45 < humpaxx> How did you manage that?
13:45 <+ktechmidas> my passport got cloned... someone flew from the UK to Turkey with it
13:45 <+ktechmidas> while I was in HK
13:46 < niklasye> thats creepy :(
13:46 <+ktechmidas> so the UK government 1) Didn't notice I wasn't in the UK when someone tried to use it, and 2) Cancelled my passport
13:46 < niklasye> wouldn't want my passport cloned
13:46 < humpaxx> ktechmidas: any idea how it got cloned/"stolen" ?
13:47 <+ktechmidas> so China interogated me... then handed me to the UK to interogate me further... then China chucked me back into Hong Kong and told me to sort it with the British Consulate
13:47 <+ktechmidas> humpaxx, could be any number of things really...
13:47 <+ktechmidas> all hotels need a copy
13:48 <+ktechmidas> China were better... the British started being very accusary, wondering why I was in Turkey
13:48 <+ktechmidas> I was like "If you can't tell I've been in HK for a week... what the fuck are you doing?"
13:48 <+ktechmidas> thankfully had some receipts
13:48 <+giant_it_burrit> tell us how you really feel
13:49 < SynMonger> It's the ultimate chicken and egg problem. How do you prove you're really you when the government doesn't trust your government issued identification?
13:49 <+ktechmidas> I thought the UK were gonna black bag me
13:49 <+ktechmidas> and move me somewhere to never be seen again
13:49 <+ktechmidas> that's how it felt
13:49 <+giant_it_burrit> this is why america is best
13:49 <+giant_it_burrit> we will free an entire country to get a dead body
13:49 <+giant_it_burrit> ask nk
13:50 <+ktechmidas> no food, no water... once I was handed back to China I asked for water, they escorted me to the shop and let me grab some stuff
13:50 <+ktechmidas> I think I was in there about 8 hours >.>
13:51 <+ktechmidas> took them 3 hours to even start interviewing me
13:51 <+ktechmidas> 1/10, do not recommend
13:52 < SynMonger> the number of lists being in here with us degenerates puts you on probably didn't work in your favor
13:52 < niklasye> ktechmidas did they at least have one of those satisfaction-review-button-machine with the happy and angry face on?
13:53 <+ktechmidas> niklasye, nope... CHina have those at the borders though
13:53 <+ktechmidas> but I wasn't annoyed with China
13:53 < niklasye> ktechmidas yeah I've seen them :D
13:53 < niklasye> I've never been treated badly in cgina
13:54 < niklasye> china*
13:54 <+ktechmidas> I'm certain they must've found my passport somewhere like Syria
13:54 <+ktechmidas> because I was getting absolutely grilled about who I know and where they're from
13:58 <+ktechmidas> I also loved the way they just dumped me back into Hong Kong without my passport
13:59 <+ktechmidas> like "Here, he's your problem now"
14:00 < niklasye> wow, thats terrible :(
14:02 <+ktechmidas> *then* I had to spend a day in the consulate to get a new passport
14:03 <+ktechmidas> because they didn't believe me
14:03 <+ktechmidas> and had to make several calls
14:06 < vavkamil> you should post more photos to facebook, all would be clear
14:07 <@cryptic1> morning
14:07 < vinrock> sup money g
14:13 < asimon> Good morning my friends
14:15 < Nightcinder> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/06/surface-usb-type-c-dongle-is-enormous-coming-on-friday/
14:15 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder β†’  Microsoft’s USB Type-C dongle for Surface Pro is finally here, and it’s huge | Ars Technica
14:15 < Nightcinder> umm
14:15 <@cryptic1> O_o
14:16 < Nightcinder> why is it so big
14:17 < asimon> And why is it $80
14:17 < vavkamil> maybe it's wireless
14:17 <@cryptic1> its only the size of an xbox 1
14:17 <@cryptic1> "portable"
14:18 < Nightcinder> cryptic1: clearly it's to plug into a usb-c docking station
14:18 <@cryptic1> talk about a shitty design
14:18 < Nightcinder> a dock for your dock
14:18 <@cryptic1> yeap
14:18 <@cryptic1> dock to dock
14:18 < Nightcinder> docking
14:18 < vavkamil> there might be whole raspberry pi inside
14:18 <@cryptic1> or an xbox 1
14:19 <@cryptic1> you can play gears of war on your dongle
14:19 <@cryptic1> or should I say using your dongle
14:19 < vavkamil> I have never even seen xbox
14:19 < Nightcinder> ..how
14:19 < vavkamil> I guess it's not that popular
14:19 <@cryptic1> do you leave the basement?
14:20 < vavkamil> everyone I know have PS2/3/4
14:20 < vavkamil> never really saw xbox or wii
14:21 <@cryptic1> get out of here
14:21 < Nightcinder> he doesn't leave the basement
14:21 <@cryptic1> who didn't have a wii
14:21 < vavkamil> I'm not from US
14:22 <@cryptic1> wii bowling man
14:22 <@cryptic1> you missed out
14:22 < asimon> wii bowling was the shit
14:22 < asimon> the golf was good except putting was impossible
14:22 <@cryptic1> yeah
14:22 < vinrock> wii disc golf was dope
14:23 < asimon> disc golf?
14:23 < asimon> i didn't get that one
14:23 < vinrock> https://www.pdga.com/introduction
14:23 <+layer-eight> * vinrock β†’  A Guide to Disc Golf from the PDGA | Professional Disc Golf Association
14:23 < vinrock> i didnt know it existed til i played the wii game
14:23 < vinrock> shits pretty rad
14:23 <@cryptic1> bunch of the parts in my city have disk golf
14:23 <@cryptic1> parts=parks
14:23 < vinrock> yeah i found one neaarby too
14:24 <@cryptic1> when I walk my dog I see playing it a lot spring-fall
14:24 <@cryptic1> i see people playing it
14:28 < asimon> Huh
14:28 < asimon> https://twitter.com/ProtonMail/status/1011911468353314816
14:28 <+layer-eight> * asimon β†’  ProtonMail on Twitter: "We had an incident with the network earlier today. Service has been restored and no emails were lost.… "
14:30 <@cryptic1> ....
14:30 <@cryptic1> email would bounce
14:31 < vavkamil> we have traced the attack back to a group that claims to have ties to Russia, and the attack is said to have been 500 Gbps, which would be among the largest DDoS's on record.
14:31 <@cryptic1> not get "lost" from network problems
14:32 <@cryptic1> thats probably avg steam sale traffic
14:32 <@cryptic1> :P
14:38 < AustinS> ceofreak, im here sorta :p
14:39 < ceofreak> AustinS figured it out i guess, wanted to ask if you can upgrade an ec2 instance as easy
14:39 < ceofreak> seems to be the answer is yes
14:39 < ceofreak> to a higher hardware tier I mean
14:40 < shoh> fuck you cryptic1
14:40 < shoh> give me +v
14:40 <@cryptic1> 3 days in a row?
14:42 < shoh> yes
14:49 <@JollyRgrs> shoh got fired
14:49 <@JollyRgrs> only explanation
14:52 < shoh> explain this
14:52 < shoh> 8=========D
14:52 < shoh> pfsence
14:52 < shoh> almost got ya
14:52 < shoh> pfsense
14:53 < asimon> oh shit he said it
14:53 < shoh> felda aint here
14:53 < shoh> esnesfp
14:53 <@cryptic1> haha yeah JollyRgrs you are right
14:53 <@cryptic1> he was let go
14:55 < Nightcinder> fired as the voice?
14:56 < AustinS> ceofreak, yeah just stop, change instance type, start.
14:56 < Nightcinder> soo we had to record a new auto-attendant for our voice system
14:56 < AustinS> +1
14:56 < Nightcinder> i've never seen so many people upset they weren't the voice of the company
14:56 < Nightcinder> i chose who i wanted fuck you guys
14:56 < Nightcinder> you don't have good voices
14:56 < asimon> Everyone wants to feel important
14:56 < Nightcinder> the two receptionists were upset
14:56 < Nightcinder> but they both have weird voices
14:56 < vavkamil> with audacity everybody have a good voice
14:56 < Nightcinder> i chose the HR girl because her voice is soft and disarming
14:57 < asimon> nice
14:57 < shoh> Did you slip your dick in her?
14:57 < Nightcinder> no she's married with 2 kids
14:57 < asimon> s/girl/woman
14:57 <+layer-eight> [SED asimon/Nightcinder] i chose the HR woman because her voice is soft and disarming
15:03 <@JollyRgrs> Nightcinder: so she's fertile and you didn't wanna chance another kid?
15:03 <@JollyRgrs> j/k
15:04 < vavkamil> is there hyper-v for IoT version of win10?
15:06 <@JollyRgrs> duh what?
15:06 < vavkamil> yeah it doesn't make sense
15:06 <@JollyRgrs> you want IoT in a hyper-v... or run hyper-v in a IoT version?
15:07 <@JollyRgrs> first makes sensee
15:07 <@JollyRgrs> latter does not
15:07 < Nightcinder> JollyRgrs: pls
15:07 < vavkamil> I wan't to learn hyper-v, but I'm on linux. so I can launch virtualbox with win10, than hyper-v inside of it
15:07 < traaak> also, yeah doesnt IOT come with Powershell already?
15:07  * JollyRgrs has super sperm and has to be careful
15:07 <@JollyRgrs> vavkamil: so where does IoT come into play?
15:08 <@JollyRgrs> vavkamil: you can run a hyper-v server for free (license is free)
15:08 < vavkamil> JollyRgrs, I can also test it on rPi
15:08 <@JollyRgrs> run hyper-v in a KVM guest?
15:08 <@JollyRgrs> vbox can't do nested virt iirc
15:08 <@JollyRgrs> or not well or something
15:08 <@JollyRgrs> i've never tried, just heard discussions
15:09 < vavkamil> maybe I can rent some VPS and install it there
15:09 <@JollyRgrs> why?
15:09 <@JollyRgrs> just run it in KVM
15:09 <@JollyRgrs> or do you only have a single workstation at home?
15:09 < jumi> anyone here experienced with Synology NASes?
15:09 < shoh> Yes
15:09 < shoh> someone probably is
15:09 <@JollyRgrs> jumi: co-worker sitting next to me uses one, i've seen a few
15:10 <@JollyRgrs> he's the type that buys more expensive things just b/c... i go the freenas route b/c i'm cheap
15:10 < vavkamil> JollyRgrs, yeah only single desktop with linux
15:10 < jumi> JollyRgrs: I have a problem, for some reason, whatever I copy into it (over nfs) gets it's permissions set to 777 and I cannot change it to anything else
15:10 <@JollyRgrs> vavkamil: you don't need much to power a "server"
15:10 < jumi> I'd much rather have a freenas box over this, trust me
15:10 <@JollyRgrs> vavkamil: are you US or overseas?
15:10 <@JollyRgrs> jumi: lol
15:11 <@JollyRgrs> that's an odd issue, my coworker wouldn't know though... he's wintel/mac guy.... i'll ask if he's seen it before though
15:11 < vavkamil> JollyRgrs, europe, it's just seems like overkill to use one virtual environment just for learning with different virtual environment
15:11 < jumi> and on top of that, my "IT" team is full of idiots and they have no idea how to fix anything and everything I ask seems like the biggest hassle
15:11 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowledgebase/DSM/help/DSM/AdminCenter/file_share_privilege_nfs
15:11 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs β†’  DiskStation Manager - Knowledge Base | Synology Inc.
15:11 < jumi> tbh I'd be happy if they just gave me a user and password but...
15:11 <@JollyRgrs> and you've gone here i suppose, right?
15:12 < jumi> JollyRgrs: yeah I was just reading that
15:12 <@JollyRgrs> vavkamil: well, you're the one running linux and not windows
15:12 <@JollyRgrs> so if only 1 device...
15:13 <@JollyRgrs> sorry, visitor at the desk
15:13 < jumi> the issue here is as always - I'm not the "sysadmin" but the "SAP guy" and the "sysadmins" have no idea what they're doing and they piss me off
15:13 <@JollyRgrs> so if you only haev 1 device and can't afford/acquire a 2nd... and you run linux, that is what you should do
15:14 <@JollyRgrs> but if you are looking to buy a vps... i'd look for a server someone's getting rid of
15:14 <@JollyRgrs> /kick jumi sysadmins only!
15:14 <@JollyRgrs> it's ok, on monday, i'll no longer be a sysad either
15:15 < corn266> awe
15:15 < vavkamil> I'm looking for a new job and everybody is asking about experience with hyper-v
15:15 <@JollyRgrs> jumi: you checking into that link?
15:15 <@JollyRgrs> vavkamil: are you a linux or windows fan? i presume the former?
15:15 < jumi> JollyRgrs: yeah
15:16 <@JollyRgrs> are you interested in devopsy stuff, or just running servers? OS agnostic or linux fanboy?
15:16 < vavkamil> JollyRgrs, I can do basic active directory stuff, exchange, powershell etc
15:16 <@JollyRgrs> vavkamil: do you have exp with ANY hypervisor?
15:16 < jumi> JollyRgrs: I found a thread on reddit that says that if SMB is active for that share, everything defaults to 777
15:16 < Hatter> oh good morning
15:16 < jumi> and knowing how much of a tool this guy is, it is probably still active
15:17 <@JollyRgrs> if you can do vmware, hyper-v isn't much different at first... it's only really the cli mgmt and stuff that varies much until you get into the deep stuff like HA and clusters, etc
15:17 < vavkamil> JollyRgrs, no, just virtualbox and cloud services like amazon aws
15:17 <@JollyRgrs> jumi: oh geez :/ can you change perms for SMB and make it change that as well?
15:17 <@JollyRgrs> or does it just say "if smb, 777"
15:17 < jumi> it does that
15:17 <@JollyRgrs> black samba strikes again!
15:18 < jumi> I mean
15:18 < coderphive> Hot take: JollyRgrs = shoh
15:18 < jumi> why can't I just have a fucking NFS share
15:18 <@JollyRgrs> move over black momba
15:18 < jumi> why do we have to use samba for backups
15:18 < jumi> for backups of LINUX systems
15:18 <@cryptic1> coderphive, nope
15:18 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: shhhhh, you bloody copper
15:18 <@cryptic1> shoh is shoh
15:18 < coderphive> haha
15:18 < shoh> coderphive is a peado
15:18 <@cryptic1> there can be only one
15:18 <@JollyRgrs> jumi: what? lol b/c windows admins were in charge of backups for linux boxes?
15:18 < coderphive> shoh, liar
15:19 < coderphive> shoh, you're a pedo-bot
15:19 < jumi> JollyRgrs: don't get me started on the backups here
15:19 < jumi> I've been fixing shit for three months
15:19 < shoh> linux backups are easy
15:19 < shoh> just move to windows
15:19 < shoh> the better OS
15:19 < coderphive> Why are you doing sambda backups
15:19 < coderphive> Like there's a million tools out there to use and you chose samba
15:19 < coderphive> Samba is for sharing stolen tv shows in the 90's
15:20 < coderphive> no enterprise backups
15:20 <@cryptic1> coderphive, a bot that detected you
15:20 <@cryptic1> interesting
15:20 < coderphive> cryptic1, DUN DUN DUN
15:20 <@cryptic1> called yourself out there eh
15:20 < jumi> coderphive: I know, right?
15:20 < coderphive> I just woke up
15:20 < coderphive> I'm vulnerable
15:20 < coderphive> haven't reached my full form yet
15:20 < jumi> I mean this company is just a fucking mess
15:20 < jumi> there's no architect and it shows
15:21 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: samba was for sharing ISOs and no-cd cracks at LAN parties
15:21 < coderphive> Architect schmarchitect
15:21 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, even truer
15:21 < coderphive> also, bring back LAN parties
15:21 < coderphive> that's how we make america great again
15:21 <@JollyRgrs> i miss LAN parties
15:21 < coderphive> srsly
15:21 < jumi> I'm going to a LAN party next month
15:21 < jumi> can't wait
15:21 < coderphive> They had one that was pretty dope in Dallas
15:21 <@JollyRgrs> first one i went to (i was new to the whole thing) they gave me a card to install on my PC...
15:22 <@JollyRgrs> so i could connect the BNC connector and put a terminator at the end of the line
15:22 <@JollyRgrs> lol
15:22 < coderphive> haha
15:22 <@JollyRgrs> "NO! you can't leave! it'll break the link!"
15:22 < coderphive> lmao
15:22 < coderphive> Ours had a massive file storage server
15:23 < coderphive> I honestly spent years trying to be that guy, then LAN's and file sharing kind of simultaneously died
15:23 < coderphive> ^ defining statement of my life
15:23 <@JollyRgrs> haha
15:23 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: now you're "that guy"... but not in a good way
15:23 <@JollyRgrs> be careful what you wish for
15:23 < coderphive> tru
15:24 < coderphive> Never got to attain my dream of hanging out with kids at LAN's
15:24 <@cryptic1> O_o
15:24 < coderphive> sorry, I had to
15:24 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: pedo confirmed
15:24 < shoh> I told you guys
15:24 < coderphive> lmao
15:24 <@cryptic1> shoh you got em
15:24 < shoh> coderphive is a regular child molester
15:24 < shoh> please
15:24 < shoh> take a seat
15:25 < coderphive> honestly
15:25 <@JollyRgrs> now coderphive hosts "LAN" parties for farmville
15:25 < coderphive> we were just going to play laser tag
15:25  * coderphive takes a seat
15:25 <@JollyRgrs> preys on all the old ladies
15:25 < shoh> "LAN" parties, where the sour cream is daddy's cummies
15:25 < coderphive> ew
15:25 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: you take condoms and handcuffs and whips to laser tag?
15:25 < coderphive> I hate that video
15:26 < coderphive> When I played GTA there was a guy that would continuously stream that video audio over mic
15:26 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, sometimes
15:26 < shoh> what video
15:26 <@JollyRgrs> i'm glad i have no clue what you're talkin about coderphive
15:26 < coderphive> daddys cummies is a video
15:26 <@JollyRgrs> ...
15:26 < coderphive> that's where the meme comes from newb
15:26 < asimon> jeez guys its only 9:30 and we already need to get back to work
15:26 < shoh> fuck off ASSimon
15:26 <@JollyRgrs> i wasn't aware that was a meme
15:26 <@JollyRgrs> you hang out in a weird circle man
15:26 < coderphive> ye... hold on
15:26 <@JollyRgrs> no thx
15:26 < coderphive> gotta search for this incognito
15:26 <@JollyRgrs> i'm at work and not interested even if at home
15:27 < shoh> Just me and my πŸ’•daddyπŸ’•, hanging out I got pretty hungryπŸ† so I started to pout 😞 He asked if I was down ⬇for something yummy πŸ˜πŸ† and I asked what and he said he'd give me his πŸ’¦cummies!πŸ’¦ Yeah! Yeah!πŸ’•πŸ’¦ I drink them!πŸ’¦ I slurp them!πŸ’¦ I swallow them wholeπŸ’¦ 😍 It makes πŸ’˜daddyπŸ’˜ 😊happy😊 so it's my only goal... πŸ’•πŸ’¦πŸ˜«Harder daddy! Harder daddy! πŸ˜«πŸ’¦πŸ’• 1 cummyπŸ’¦, 2 cummyπŸ
15:27 < Hatter> hey come on now
15:27 < coderphive> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh7Z1wTGicY
15:27 <+layer-eight> * coderphive β†’  YouTube β†’ Daddy's Cummies β†’ ⚘ 145,071 ↑ 3,789 ↓ 104 ✍ 388
15:27 < alazare619> <3 shoh
15:27 < coderphive> got u baes
15:27 < shoh> :-)
15:27 < alazare619> shoh do the icepick thing
15:27 < shoh> No
15:27 < alazare619> plz
15:27 < shoh> oN
15:28 < ebol4> this is like medicated shoh
15:28 < alazare619> pretty please with πŸ’ ontop
15:28 < shoh> Not yet
15:28 < shoh> medication is at 5:30
15:29 < coderphive> shoh needs that last line as his epithet
15:29 < coderphive> "I'm daddy's princess, but I'm also a whore"
15:29 < shoh> IM DELETING YOU, DADDY!πŸ˜­πŸ‘‹ β–ˆβ–ˆ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] 10% complete..... β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] 35% complete.... β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] 60% complete.... β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ] 99% complete..... 🚫ERROR!🚫 πŸ’―TrueπŸ’― Daddies are irreplaceable πŸ’–I could never delete you Daddy!πŸ’– Send this to ten other πŸ‘ͺDaddiesπŸ‘ͺ who give you πŸ’¦cummiesπŸ’¦ Or never get 
15:29 < coderphive> It's like 4chan came to irc
15:29 < Hatter> how do we send it back?
15:29 < asimon> We need cryptic1
15:31 <@cryptic1> ?
15:31 <@cryptic1> wtf
15:31  * cryptic1 leaves the room
15:31  * asimon yikes
15:31 < shoh> :-)
15:32 <+giant_it_burrit> what in retardation
15:32 < Nightcinder> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/06/fox-desperately-trying-to-avoid-selling-to-comcast/
15:32 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder β†’  Fox desperately trying to avoid selling to Comcast | Ars Technica
15:33 < corn266> good thing they sold to disney (/s)
15:33 < Heresiarch> DAE have trouble connecting to slack?
15:33 < ebol4> working fine form e
15:33 < ebol4> formy
15:33 < asimon> its good over here
15:33 < ebol4> nice and formy in here
15:34 <+ihre> Heresiarch: slack is fucked here too
15:34 < coderphive> lmao a disney owned Fox?
15:34 < Heresiarch> ebol4: don't disconnect. https://twitter.com/SlackStatus/status/1011965664234389504
15:34 <+layer-eight> * Heresiarch β†’  Slack Status on Twitter: "All workspaces are currently experiencing difficulty connecting to Slack. We appreciate your patience while we look into this. https://t.co/jdzxIeLoWA"
15:34 < coderphive> Good by conservative media
15:34 <+ihre> right
15:34 <+TuxedoJack> Fucking awesome
15:34 < Heresiarch> coderphive: Fox movies, not Fox News. Also, Sinclair (which runs in ~75% of the US) would like a word with you.
15:34 <+TuxedoJack> Almost makes me glad we're swapping to MS Teams
15:34  * TuxedoJack reaches for the shotguy
15:35  * TuxedoJack reaches for the shotgun
15:35 < coderphive> :|
15:35 < Heresiarch> TuxedoJack: ...you have a shotguy? LUXURY!
15:35 < coderphive> Does Sinclair want an SRE?
15:35 < coderphive> or am I dead?
15:35 < coderphive> wat
15:35 < coderphive> MS Teams
15:35 < coderphive> why
15:35 < coderphive> Do you like having a hard-knock life?
15:35 < Heresiarch> coderphive: Breitbart might want an SRE...
15:36 < ekaj_> .bofh
15:36 < ekaj_> `bofh
15:36 <+layer-eight> You must be identified with NickServ to use the bofh command ekaj_
15:36 < estranger> man i got a pimple
15:36 < ekaj_> wut
15:36 < coderphive> If I weren't going to get crucified by my bretheren for doing it I probably would
15:36 < estranger> SOCIAL LIFE OVER
15:36 < estranger> oh wait never had one
15:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> did someone...
15:36 < coderphive> Could you imagine the unique challenges of keeping that website online?
15:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> use an emoji
15:36 < Casteil> anyone else having issues connecting to slack right now?
15:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> coderphive did you do this
15:36 < estranger> Casteil, YES
15:37 < ekaj_> `bofh
15:37 <+layer-eight> You must be identified with NickServ to use the bofh command ekaj_
15:37 < coderphive> McDonaldsWiFi, It wasn't me this time
15:37 < Heresiarch> Casteil: they're showing an outage. All workspaces.
15:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> WHO DID IT
15:37 < coderphive> actually
15:37 < estranger> Heresiarch, did they just update the status page/ i looked 2 min ago and it was all green, now its red
15:37 < coderphive> There were a lot of emojis thrown around tbh
15:37 < Heresiarch> yup. Just updated their twitter acct too.
15:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol it was either shoh or Casteil
15:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> but the chat is so fucked I can't tell who did it
15:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
15:37 < estranger> this is what happens when you run a large sharded mysql :D
15:38 < estranger> bad things, jonny
15:38 < Heresiarch> coderphive: if that's your benchmark, go whole hog - try to SRE for voat.
15:38 < coderphive> What's voat
15:38 < abakedapplepie> hi bitches and McDonaldsWiFi
15:38 < McDonaldsWiFi> >.>
15:38 < McDonaldsWiFi> coderphive virgin boat
15:38 < coderphive> oh neat
15:39 < abakedapplepie> i thought it was virgin goat
15:39 < coderphive> Some kind of incel thing?
15:39 < Heresiarch> coderphive: ...unfortunately, no one can be told what voat is...you have to see it for yourself.
15:39 < SynMonger> ha
15:39 < abakedapplepie> coderphive: thats actually not a bad guess
15:39 <+TuxedoJack> The Mos Eisley of Reddit
15:39 <+TuxedoJack> Mixed with 4Chan, incels, and a frisson of sperging
15:39 < shoh> pfsence
15:40 < shoh> pfsense
15:40 <@cryptic1> someone fix slack
15:40 < abakedapplepie> its kinda like t_d and redpill with a side of incels and some fph secret sauce sprinkled on top
15:40 < coderphive> oh wow
15:40 < shoh> 😞
15:40 < estranger> cryptic1, we tried they wouldnt listen :<
15:40 < coderphive> I regret going there
15:40 <+TuxedoJack> And by frisson, I mean the chef has a fuckin' palsy and poured the whole goddamn container in
15:40 < shoh> Don't be offensive towards disabled people TuxedoJack
15:40 < estranger> the correct term is abley challenged
15:40 <+TuxedoJack> Basically the /b/-tards who never grew up from post-2008 /b/
15:41 < felda> shoh wowee the Queen must really be making strides in political correctness
15:41 <@JollyRgrs> felda: you didn't know?
15:41 < coderphive> Well
15:42 < coderphive> Honestly I've never felt more dumb after visiting a web page
15:42 < coderphive> Even 4chan provided some level of enlightenment
15:42 <@JollyRgrs> felda: they made the queen's title more aerodynamic
15:42 < abakedapplepie> ahahaha
15:42 <@JollyRgrs> ask me how!
15:42 < felda> BUT HOW?!
15:42 <@JollyRgrs> they reduced the DRAG
15:42 <@JollyRgrs> HAHAHAHA
15:42 < felda> lmao
15:43 < abakedapplepie> you know its a really great website when you got (((dem triple parenthises))) on the front page
15:43 <@JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: for added emfassess
15:43 < coderphive> The queen in drag would be hilarious
15:43 < coderphive> shoh can you arrange this?
15:43 <@JollyRgrs> would the queen in drag be like double-drag?
15:44 < coderphive> a drag in drag
15:44 < coderphive> honestly I'm ashamed I visited that website not in incognito mode
15:44 < coderphive> the NSA knows now
15:45 <@JollyRgrs> ok, so for adding a git repo into VS Code, i have to have the repo URL, right? there's no way to browse the repos of a specific user account b/c it's host agnostic, right?
15:45 < coderphive> wat
15:45 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: oh, they know anyways, incognito just keeps the ads from showing up
15:45 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, just git clone to a dir and then load the folder up
15:45 < abakedapplepie> ^
15:45 < Heresiarch> ^
15:45 < abakedapplepie> all ur dns
15:45 < coderphive> It'll read it automatically
15:45 < abakedapplepie> are belong to us
15:46 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: i'm just seeing if i can avoid logging into my account in web browser just to get the repo url
15:46 < coderphive> uhm
15:46 <@JollyRgrs> i can't clone a dir without the dir
15:46 < coderphive> it's always user/project/project.git
15:46 <@JollyRgrs> just wondered if there was anything
15:46 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: so lemme back up...
15:46 < Jekotia> JollyRgrs: You come into here... and you request magic? What are you, a USER?
15:46 <@JollyRgrs> i just installed git on my work machine (using in vscode) and was wanting to clone a repo
15:46 < humpaxx> Also you if people have their public key added to github you can view it
15:47 < shoh>  (   Ν‘Β° ΝœΚ– Ν‘Β° ) ( (   Ν‘Β° ΝœΚ– Ν‘Β° )
15:47 < coderphive> Right
15:47 <@JollyRgrs> and i don't know the url to the project, so i'd have to log in to get that
15:47 < coderphive> Yeah, you'll need the full URL, though I'm not sure if VSCode supports cloning so much as reading the current repo in the dir
15:47 <@JollyRgrs> yeah it does cloning
15:47 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, yes, though you could guess it given what I just said
15:48 <@JollyRgrs> vscode is full support son
15:48 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: i don't recall what i named the project exactly :P
15:48 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, sorry, I'm a real man and use CLI git
15:48 <@JollyRgrs> i put too many words and spaces
15:48 < Heresiarch> heh
15:48 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: i'm taking baby steps
15:48 <@JollyRgrs> i just lernt to git last night
15:48 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, :P
15:48 < Heresiarch> JollyRgrs: Can you reset my password? I don't remember my username...
15:48 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, just giving you a hard time
15:48 <@JollyRgrs> Heresiarch: sure thing
15:49 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, yeah, you'll need to login
15:49 <@JollyRgrs> but i'm not sure which one, so i'll just reset all to the same PW, then you'll be able to figure out
15:49 < Heresiarch> JollyRgrs: sweet! I'll tell the dept that they're getting their passwords reset.
15:49 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, also, if it's a private repo you'll need to add your SSH key or auth with creds every time
15:49 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: i figured that out last night setting the user.name and user.email so git would commit
15:50 < coderphive> si
15:50 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: visualstudio has a private repo free, so i used that, it lets me do auth tokens
15:50 < coderphive> oooh
15:50 < coderphive> That's why there's confusion
15:50 < coderphive> Just use GitLab or something
15:50 < coderphive> it's 100% free
15:50 < coderphive> Well when you're done learning anyway
15:50 < Heresiarch> or bitbucket. It's like gitlab, but with less data loss.
15:51 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: b/c i didn't know what the diff was between gitlab and visualstudio's git
15:51 < coderphive> BitBucket is like GitLab with more cancer
15:51 < Heresiarch> heh.
15:51 < coderphive> so
15:51 < coderphive> Git is the same everywhere
15:51 < cantibot> heh
15:51 < coderphive> It's the same binary
15:51 < coderphive> You have local and remote
15:51 <+ihre> gitolite :^)
15:51 < Heresiarch> Now that MS has bought github, will they at least make their free plan allow for 1-2 private repos?
15:52 < felda> When do I get my greybeard?
15:52 < estranger> Heresiarch, that would be nice
15:52 < coderphive> All you're doing is syncing your local to remote
15:52 < coderphive> and everyone kind of "agrees" to push to this singular remote
15:52 < coderphive> your remote being a visual studio repo
15:52 <+ktechmidas> Gogs is better than Gitlab
15:52 < Heresiarch> felda: when felda.io becomes a blog with useful technical posts.
15:52 < estranger> i keep a bunch of shit off github id like to be there cus proprietary shit
15:52 <+ktechmidas> much better
15:52 <@JollyRgrs> Heresiarch: right now it is still 0 private, so i'm looking to use the other for private and clone a project over to github to make it public
15:52 <+ktechmidas> much lighter on resources
15:52 <+ktechmidas> but you run it yourself
15:52 < asimon> It seems like there's some sort of large scale cyber attack going on
15:52 < felda> Heresiarch aww I figured it came with just age
15:53 < asimon> Protonmail Slack Dell all having issues
15:53 < coderphive> I
15:53 < coderphive> I
15:53 < coderphive> wtf
15:53 < coderphive> why can I not type
15:53 <+ktechmidas> You?
15:53 < felda> I turn 26 today and would like to pre-order 1 grey bear please
15:53 < Heresiarch> felda: it does. But if you're looking for a stepping stone...
15:53 <@JollyRgrs> estranger: i plan on making a "public" branch on my private stuff and sanitize those, while keeping my "working version" for $currentcompany in-tact
15:53 < Jekotia> I tried to enable networking sharing of a folder and now I somehow have no local access to the parent folders' parent folder. There goes my morning!
15:53 < estranger> i run local and sync to s3+time machine for backups
15:53 < coderphive> I'll try to type up some beginner git stuff today
15:53 < estranger> JollyRgrs, yeah sounds like a pain in the ass to sanetize every time you push
15:53 < coderphive> Understanding the fundamentals makes git a lot easier to grok
15:54 < estranger> git clone, git add, git commit, git push, git pull, git gud
15:54 <+ktechmidas> learning you can rewrite things and force a push changed my life
15:54 < corn266> happy birthday pfsense
15:54 < estranger> git triggers are fun.
15:54 < Heresiarch> JollyRgrs: if you need to sanitize your scripts to get them into a repo, you might look to modifying them to take a config file (or PoSH secure credentials).
15:54 < felda> yes indeed
15:54 < felda> what should I do for my birthday?
15:54 < corn266> drive to mexico and get aids
15:54 < estranger> buy and eat a $100 steak
15:55 <+ktechmidas> I like pfsense, just have no idea what I would ever use it for in my home network
15:55 < asimon> http://downdetector.com/
15:55 <+layer-eight> * asimon β†’  Status overview |        Down Detector
15:55 < coderphive> Are these for bash JollyRgrs?
15:55 < asimon> Yeah something is up
15:55 < enix[h]> I hate apache some nights
15:55 < mtnielsen> hm.. slack is dead
15:55 < Heresiarch> felda: pfsense strip club. Go stare at all those bared ARM chips.
15:55 < felda> lmao
15:55 < felda> I suppose I could hit the club
15:55 < estranger> ANOTHER fortnite outage?
15:56 < enix[h]> if I set "Redirect permanent / https://mywebsite.com" inside of a <VirtualHost *:80>, that should do the trick hey. http://mywebsite.com should redirect to https
15:56 <+layer-eight> * enix[h] β†’  mywebsite.comΒ -Β This website is for sale!Β -Β mywebsite Resources and Information.
15:56 < hxcsp> estranger: patch day
15:56 < estranger> god damn all these companies with shitty database backends are crashing today :D
15:56 <@JollyRgrs> Heresiarch: no, it's like sanitizing hardcoded domain or security group or something
15:56 < estranger> hxcsp, ahh
15:56 < hxcsp> i think its back on now though
15:56 <@JollyRgrs> since the scripts running in a scheduler, i don't trust the others to know how to use arguments
15:56 < estranger> their mongo seems to go down like a $5 whore
15:56 < Heresiarch> JollyRgrs: ah, ok
15:56 < enix[h]> Swear to god our web devs are doing something shonky too. We have a ServerAlias for mysecondsite.com in this virtual group and it's meant to go to mywebsite.com, but when it does it get's redirect to mywebsite.com/secondsite
15:56 <@JollyRgrs> just removal of company PI
15:57 < enix[h]> >:(
15:57 < estranger> they actually wrote a really really good post mortem on one of their outages
15:57 <+ktechmidas> not as bad as PUBG
15:57 < ebol4> s-shonky?
15:57 <+ktechmidas> trying to connect to that is 50/50
15:57 <+ktechmidas> on a good day
15:57 <@JollyRgrs> shonky is a new one for me
15:57 < felda> anyone else found that Skype App for Windows 10 is hot garbage?
15:57 < estranger> https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/en-US/news/postmortem-of-service-outage-4-12 <-- great read
15:57 <+ktechmidas> it's the only game I have that works better without a VPN from China... not sure exactly what their routing does
15:57 <+layer-eight> * estranger β†’  Epic Games' Fortnite
15:57 <@JollyRgrs> ktechmidas: or just move to the US... we love taking in legal aliens
15:57 < estranger> felda, skype app for * is garbage
15:57 < mtnielsen> felda get the desktop version at least
15:57 <@JollyRgrs> felda: i only use SFB
15:58 < enix[h]> estranger: can you please pm that link to enix for me
15:58 < enix[h]> oh wait i can
15:58 < felda> we have SFB with our O365 package but my users are retardo and can't figure it out
15:58 < enix[h]> ty
15:58 < estranger> enix np
15:58 <+TuxedoJack> God, I love this
15:58 <+ktechmidas> JollyRgrs, I have to convince my girlfriend first... someone seems to have convinced her the US is full of guns and gangs
15:58 <+TuxedoJack> The tier 1s and management are freaking out because Slack is dead
15:58 < alazare619> so new company purchased out our business office
15:58 < alazare619> for all patient records and billing
15:58 <+TuxedoJack> Meanwhile, the tier 3s and sysadmins have fired up the old OpenFire server and are GPOing out Spark
15:59 < estranger> surprised we havent gotten an email @ work that slack si down
15:59 < alazare619> they have no idea what PCI compliance is
15:59 < alazare619> or hipaa
15:59 < estranger> oh our IT in cali.. still sleeping :)
15:59 < McDonaldsWiFi> ktechmidas: bring her to the south... no gangs but lots of guns :P
15:59 < enix[h]> ktechmidas: is the US not full of guns and gangs?
15:59 < estranger> no gangs in the south? tell that to atlanta
15:59 < int0x1C8> as long as you're not ATL
15:59 < enix[h]> Because that's like the whole reason to move to the US
15:59 <+ktechmidas> enix[h], point taken
15:59 < estranger> int0x1C8, lol
16:00 < estranger> the US is safe, just dont be a gang banger
16:00 < corn266> oh shit I just tried it and I can't send any messages
16:00 <+ktechmidas> but she heard about Detroit and thinks that's every US city
16:00 < int0x1C8> or black
16:00 < int0x1C8> or brown
16:00 < felda> alazare619 Why don't we just let everyone use their devices they bring from home and open up the wifi network to our work LAN?
16:00 <+ktechmidas> or asian...?
16:00 < hxcsp> my slack seems to be working fine
16:00 < enix[h]> ktechmidas: tell her that's just where black people are
16:00 < felda> it's a great idea
16:00 < McDonaldsWiFi> I blew some holes in an old washer last weekend. cause why not
16:00 < enix[h]> they're the ones doing the shootings
16:00 < enix[h]> not the trump supporters
16:00 < estranger> ktechmidas, even detroit is nice, like every city it has shitty parts you avoid
16:00 < estranger> its those shitty parts that get all the news
16:00 < alazare619> felda:  phaking reasons
16:01 < estranger> like chicago.. most of chicago is really nice, but it has sections that are god aweful.. so everything things chicago is a murderfest all over
16:01 <+TuxedoJack> felda: Because you don't want to see a sysadmin's head rotating around and speaking ominous Latin chants while a high-pitched choir sings in the background?
16:01 < felda> lol
16:01 < felda> I LOVE opening Wi-Fi to LAN it just makes everything so easy
16:01 < felda> then we'll put the Wi-Fi password on the white board that everyone can see as soon as they walk in the building or look through the front window
16:01 < felda> It's genious
16:02 < estranger> i remember when wifi came out and made the ditch we dug between my house and friends house to bury CAT5 no longer needed
16:02 < felda> Also all of our printers are going to be inkjet and connect only using Wi-Fi
16:02 < abakedapplepie> slack is down?
16:02 < estranger> abakedapplepie, yup
16:02 < abakedapplepie> neat
16:02 < corn266> the world is ending abakedapplepie
16:02 <+TuxedoJack> abakedapplepie: welcome to 30 minutes ago
16:02 < insecurity> s/baked/mcdonalds
16:02 < shoh> pfsense
16:02 <+layer-eight> [SED insecurity/TuxedoJack] amcdonaldsapplepie: welcome to 30 minutes ago
16:02 < humpaxx> Does anyone here have any experience with hikvision NVRs?
16:02 < SynMonger> There's a reason chicago has such good food. When any meal could be your last...
16:02 <+ktechmidas> estranger, you could have connected your houses with underground cables
16:02 < abakedapplepie> insecurity: thats where my name comes from
16:02 < McDonaldsWiFi> SynMonger: LOL
16:02 <+ktechmidas> better than wifi anyway
16:02 < shoh> fuck deep dish pizza
16:02 < insecurity> is pfsense down?
16:02 < estranger> slack architects are like "cassandra is too hard, we'd rather just have downtime"
16:02 <+ktechmidas> is Reddit down?
16:02 < abakedapplepie> detroit pizza > *
16:02 < felda> shoh you are defenseless now  ( Ν‘Β° ΝœΚ– Ν‘Β°)
16:02 < abakedapplepie> sorry not sorry
16:02 < corn266> fuck you shoh deep dish is better than you
16:02 < shoh> anyone who likes pineapple on their pizza should fucking die too
16:03 < McDonaldsWiFi> my home wifi is 9600 baud FM radio
16:03 < Popzi> yes they should
16:03 <+ktechmidas> :(
16:03 < int0x1C8> my best friend's sister lives in south chicago
16:03 < shoh> just lay down
16:03 < shoh> and stop
16:03 < shoh> cease
16:03 < estranger> ktechmidas, we did.. 3 houses.  two connect by a ditch, the third had to cross a road so we drove an RC car through the sewers w/ a cable attached
16:03 < enix[h]> Can someone please confirm that this will work: https://pastebin.com/JJquHJ1W
16:03 <+layer-eight> * enix[h] β†’  <VirtualHost *:80>  	ServerName example.com  	ServerAlias *.example.com  	Server - Pastebin.com
16:03 < estranger> used the RC car after the neighbos little brother wouldnt crawl through :)
16:03 < int0x1C8> she saw a corpse in a dumpster the other day
16:03 < alazare619> felda i still prefer the bana wifi guest password creator
16:03 < corn266> repeat your morning mantra in the mirror shoh not in irc
16:03 < int0x1C8> has seen 2 people get shot across the street from where she lives
16:03 < enix[h]> MillerBOSS: you there ?
16:03 < hxcsp> oh damn
16:03 < estranger> int0x1C8, mexico?
16:03 < insecurity> is openwrt really just a better pfsense?
16:03 < alazare619> felda:  https://www.reddit.com/r/networking/comments/41j04h/wifi_guest_access_you_gotta_touch_the_banana/
16:03 < hxcsp> i thought my slack was working "Slack couldnt send this message"
16:03 < abakedapplepie> i had a friend that lived in wrigley park have his brand new wrangler get shot right outside his apartment
16:03 < hxcsp> damn
16:04 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 β†’  WiFi guest access? You gotta touch the banana... : networking
16:04 < alazare619> insecurity: openwrt is amazing
16:04 < enix[h]> JollyRgrs: ?
16:04 < insecurity> in how many ways is linksys stock firmware better than pfsense?
16:04 <+ktechmidas> estranger, awesome... could have connected the whole neighbourhood :P
16:04 < alazare619> better then pfsense is a stretch but for how light it is its amazing
16:04 < abakedapplepie> err wrigleyville,not the actual park
16:04 < abakedapplepie> lol
16:04 < estranger> abakedapplepie, heyjackass.com
16:04 <+ktechmidas> I remember a few years back... someone in my hometown was still running a dial-in BBS server
16:04 < alazare619> insecurity: openwrt is not stock... also openwrt can be ran in a VM on windows
16:04 < felda> I see your attempted assault on pfsense, but it is no match for my superior intellect
16:04 < catbeard> ok so apart from slack being down
16:04 < catbeard> what's up
16:04 < SynMonger> there's still quite a few dial-in bbs's around
16:04 <+ktechmidas> I use openwrt, it runs shadowsocks
16:05 < estranger> https://heyjackass.com/2018-deadliest-hoods/  <-- dont think anyone was shot in wrigleyville this year yet
16:05 < hxcsp> everything else
16:05 <+layer-eight> * estranger β†’  2018 Deadliest β€˜hoods | Chicago Murder, Crime & Mayhem | HeyJackass!
16:05 < enix[h]> haha slack sdown
16:05 < felda> that's a pretty great banana lol
16:05 < ekaj_> does openvpn have agui?
16:05 <+ktechmidas> Yup
16:05 <+ktechmidas> web gui though
16:05 < enix[h]> ekaj_: stop asking technical questions here
16:05 < enix[h]> ktechmidas: stop answering technical questions here
16:05 < ekaj_> i can has cheeseburger
16:05 < enix[h]> ekaj_: thank you
16:05 <+ktechmidas> enix[h], sorry... I forgot it was a 24/7 trollfest
16:06 < catbeard> ekaj_: no it does not
16:06 < enix[h]> ktechmidas: easy mistake
16:06 < catbeard> it has a conf
16:06 < ekaj_> hmm.. one of you is wrong.. but i'll use it either way unless you have better recommendations
16:06 < catbeard> unless you're on ubuntu and are using .ovpn profiles and NetworkManager-openvpn
16:06 < enix[h]> I have a thing in my system tray called "OpenVPN Gui"
16:06 < enix[h]> So catbeard your argument is kinda moot
16:06 < ekaj_> no, i'm on centos
16:06 <+ktechmidas> catbeard, openwrt
16:06 < ekaj_> cli
16:06 < catbeard> ow
16:06 < enix[h]> :)
16:06 <+ktechmidas> oh
16:06 < catbeard> y u looking for gui in cli
16:07 <+ktechmidas> I'm wrong
16:07 <+ktechmidas> sorry
16:07 <+ktechmidas> misread
16:07 < ekaj_> not gui in cli, gui in browser
16:07 <+ktechmidas> he meant openvpn >.<
16:07 <+ktechmidas> I'm wrong
16:07 <+ktechmidas> ignore me
16:07 < ekaj_> bad ktechmidas
16:07 < catbeard> phpMyOpenVPN
16:07  * ktechmidas runs away
16:07 < catbeard> :(
16:07 < enix[h]> ekaj_: that's 15 hail rms for your sin of gui on centos
16:07 < catbeard> jk
16:07 < enix[h]> I bet you're using gnome too
16:07 < ekaj_> i don't have a gui
16:07 < abakedapplepie> estranger: never seen that site before
16:07 < enix[h]> LOL catbeard
16:07 < catbeard> my god that would be hilarious
16:07 < estranger> abakedapplepie, it's pretty good, nice breakdowns of the numbers
16:08 < enix[h]> ekaj_: unless you're running X with a low footprint gui, we're going to need to have a long and serious chat
16:08 < abakedapplepie> estranger: last time i stayed in chicago was garfield park
16:08 < estranger> the import stuff like the shot-in-the-junk-o-meter
16:08 < enix[h]> ekaj_: but fun bit of news; my desktop at work is running centos minimal with X/i3
16:08 < abakedapplepie> apparently not a good neighborhood sheesh
16:08 <+ktechmidas> SynMonger, I've nearly finished one that connects to Reddit
16:08 < ekaj_> <ekaj_> i don't have a gui
16:08 < abakedapplepie> second worst on the list
16:08 < enix[h]> Managed to skip a bunchof shit getting it setup
16:08 <+ktechmidas> so acts like an 80's BBS
16:08 <+ktechmidas> but gets it's data from Reddit
16:08 < enix[h]> Anyway. Midnight here and I need to be awake in four hours to report to our web department that our websites fucking shit
16:08 < enix[h]> Good night all
16:08 <+ktechmidas> but jesus christ standards between clients are awful
16:09 < ekaj_> night
16:09 < catbeard> Check your MTU, check it often.
16:09 < estranger> abakedapplepie, uhh yeah thats right by the heroin highway hehe
16:10 < estranger> abakedapplepie, i live in the burbs and avoid most of chicago proper except for the main drags
16:11 < catbeard> drags or dregs
16:11 < catbeard> or drugs
16:11 < abakedapplepie> i stayed right near the garfield park observatory
16:11 < abakedapplepie> from what i recall
16:11 <+ktechmidas> drugs
16:11 <+ktechmidas> clearly
16:11 <+ktechmidas> s/drags/drugs
16:11 <+layer-eight> [SED ktechmidas/catbeard] drugs or dregs
16:12 < abakedapplepie> airbnb was $100 and i had an awesome view of downtown
16:12 <+ktechmidas> aw
16:12 <+ktechmidas> didn't work
16:12 < estranger> but if anyone is in chicago july 11th im doing a free workshop if yer into building massively scalable architectures  :)  https://pages.datastax.com/2018_07_11TechnicalWorkshop-Chicago_Registration.html  </selfPromotion>
16:12 < catbeard> ktechmidas: hey don't talk shit about Skokie
16:12 <+layer-eight> * estranger β†’  DataStax Event
16:12 < catbeard> lol
16:12 < tapoxi> rip slack
16:13 < desgen> give them some slack
16:13 < catbeard> -rolls eyes-
16:13 < catbeard> so much slack it rip'd
16:13 < corn266> My coworker "So did y'all hear slack is slacking?"
16:13 < tapoxi> estranger: hows cassandra on k8s
16:14 < JFDkthx> McDonaldsWiFi: SEND IT
16:14 < desgen> these jokes are lacking
16:14 < McDonaldsWiFi> JFDkthx: JUSTGONNA SEND IT
16:15 < estranger> tapoxi, 2 current issues with K8s and C*/dse... 1) being shared nothing architecture things like SANs and shared storage is an anti-pattern.  to run on K8s we need to use stateful sets (cus were a db...) but SS does not support local storage in GA yet. that should be coming soon though
16:15 < Casteil> Version of @angular/compiler-cli needs to be 2.3.1 or greater. Current version is "6.0.6".
16:15 < Casteil> XD
16:16 < estranger> 2) we rely on IPs for a lot of things.  that is a big anti-pattern for K8s.  while it's not a breaking change for us if a node/pods IP changes on restart it does add some edges cases to worry about
16:16 < estranger> oh and I guess 3) the Simple seed provider can handle DNS names for seeds even though we recommend IPs typically.. and this works fine on K8s, having a proper more K8s style seed provider would be nice
16:18  * Heresiarch munches popcorn
16:20 < estranger> Heresiarch, no one's arguing here :)
16:20 < Heresiarch> Don't mind me. I'm just watching the discussion. ^_^
16:21 < tapoxi> yeah we're trying to run an all-k8s architecture and its...challenging
16:21 < estranger> tapoxi, k8s isn't mature enough yet for all workloads IMO
16:21 < tapoxi> yeah
16:21 < shoh> West Virginia πŸ‘‹     \ 🀠         || _     _/Β―  Β―_     Mountain mamma         😜    πŸ‘Š/||_     _/Β―    Β―_ take me home πŸ‘‹     \ 😳         || _     _/Β―  Β―_ Country roads          😒    πŸ‘Š/||_     _/Β―    Β―_
16:21 < Heresiarch> Some day, it's quite possible that fully-containerized orchestration might be able to pull off stateful workloads.
16:21 < estranger> tapoxi, I have a call w/ a k8s vendor next week who is claiming they can run my workload.... TO SHREDS I SAY
16:21 < estranger> Heresiarch, that day is coming.. it's just not today
16:22 < estranger> k8s hsould have stateful sets w local storage GA this year
16:22 < estranger> then we can build out something pretty good.  just lock pods to hardware and let the app handle all the HA/FT/CA whatever
16:22 < tapoxi> I'm going through the old devops dude's stuff from the past few years and we have DSE running under DC/OS
16:22 < tapoxi> and I have no fucking idea why
16:22 < estranger> tapoxi, because dcos is supported by us in productoin
16:23 < Nightcinder> The LG V40 will sail uncharted waters by featuring five cameras
16:23 < Nightcinder> uh
16:23 < estranger> but uhh..... dont do it
16:23 < Heresiarch> estranger: you guys run auto-scale/join for adding new members + replication, right?
16:23 < tapoxi> estranger: but we're not using DSE
16:23 < tapoxi> though we could, I have no idea why we apparently paid for it to throw it in a retired DC
16:24 < estranger> Heresiarch, we can add/remove members (nodes in our lingo), but don't do/suggest using any autoscaling.  When you do a scaling operation (up or down) all of your data get's rebalanced across the datacenter which is not  free operation.. it adds loads
16:24 < estranger> so if you are under load, and you start to scale out... you are adding more load and prob making it worse
16:24 < Sousapro> estranger: ouch, so you have to predict load ahead of time
16:24 < Heresiarch> estranger: right, at least for the initial repl to the new node.
16:24 < coderphive> > Some day, it's quite possible that fully-containerized orchestration might be able to pull off stateful workloads.
16:24 < estranger> tapoxi, oh then dcos was a bad choice :P but if it was made a few years ago it was one of the few choices for full dc orcastration
16:24 < coderphive> Heresiarch, what do you mean by that
16:25 < coderphive> In load balancing in general you always run hot because of bootstrap times
16:25 < coderphive> like even in a VM world it takes rougly a minute to take an image from cold to hot
16:26 < Heresiarch> coderphive: Stateful components, at this point, are not suitable for being run under container orchestration. And no, stateful sets/host pinning are not an answer.
16:26 < coderphive> Then you have to bootstrap the app, creds, etc
16:26 < coderphive> Heresiarch, yeah that's a bit of a platitude. What are you defining as stateful? The container itself?
16:27 < coderphive> like rule numero uno, containers are immutable by design
16:27 < JFDkthx> i wish you were mutable coderphive
16:27 < coderphive> You augment them with block storage or whatever to make them stateful
16:27 < Heresiarch> coderphive: any component in an app architecture that writes for near-immediate consistency and data stability.
16:27 < coderphive> JFDkthx, unfortunately I'm not bae
16:28 < coderphive> Heresiarch, I can write to mySQL for immediate consistency
16:28 < estranger> coderphive, K8s is not ready for all workloads.
16:28 < Heresiarch> coderphive: yes. But you'd be an idiot for running mysql in prod under k8s, even with stateful sets/host pinning.
16:28 < coderphive> I think it's more accurate to say k8s isn't _meant_ for all workloads
16:28 < estranger> It will be close to all workloads later this year if things go as planned
16:29 < coderphive> Such as estranger?
16:29 < estranger> coderphive, well people want to put all workloads on it..and k8s is working towowards supporting them
16:29 < coderphive> As a container orchestrator or because they added libvrt support?
16:29 < estranger> coderphive, cassandra/datastax/kafka/other fsat data layers require locally attached storaged and K8s does not support this yet in GA stateful sets
16:29 < coderphive> wat
16:30 < coderphive> You have block storage in k8s
16:30 < estranger> wat part shall Ill expand upon for you
16:30 < estranger> block storage is not locally attached storage
16:30 < coderphive> You're wanting it to spin up on the same node every time with the same PV then?
16:30 < estranger> yes.
16:31 < estranger> shared nothing architecures do not reply on infrastructre based HA/FT/CA.. it is handled at the app layer, and better than K8s ever could
16:31 < estranger> ie when in VMWare do NOT vmotion us. disable DRS, etc etc.
16:31 < coderphive> Can you provide a source saying Cassandra cannot use block storage?
16:31 < coderphive> I've honestly never heard this
16:32 < humpaxx> What is a k8s ?
16:32 < Nightcinder> man this shit's fucking weird https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/06/google-duplex-is-calling-we-talk-to-the-revolutionary-but-limited-phone-ai/
16:32 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder β†’  Talking to Google Duplex: Google’s human-like phone AI feels revolutionary | Ars Technica
16:32 < estranger> coderphive, yes, I am an engineer at Datastax. while it cant run on shared storage it is a massive antipattern, it will not perform, and you will have scaling issues
16:32 < JFDkthx> http://cloudurable.com/blog/cassandra-aws-storage-requirements/index.html
16:32 <+layer-eight> * JFDkthx β†’  Cassandra AWS Storage Requirements
16:32 < JFDkthx> ?
16:32 < estranger> https://www.datastax.com/dev/blog/impact-of-shared-storage-on-apache-cassandra
16:32 <+layer-eight> * estranger β†’  Impact of Shared Storage on Apache Cassandraβ„’ |  DataStax
16:33 < coderphive> Block storage is not shared storage
16:33 < AnimalFarmPig> I think over the next couple of years, we'll see a trend of putting applications closer to data rather than farther away and we'll see a trend away from docker orchestration engines as we currently think about them
16:33 < estranger> err, while it CAN run i mean
16:33 < estranger> coderphive, ok give me an example of what you are referring to?
16:34 < estranger> oh like EBS?
16:34 < coderphive> Block storage is block storage, I'm not quite sure how else to describe it
16:34 < corn266> Slack is back
16:34 <+ihre> 57
16:34 <+ihre> 5/7
16:34 < Heresiarch> corn266: not necessarily. They're still trying to figure out the outage.
16:34 < coderphive> Gluster is a type of Block storage that's honestly not great but GCP and AWS both support very performant block storage with very low latency
16:35 < coderphive> In fact, having used Datastax at my last company your docs detail what block storage to use in AWS
16:35 < coderphive> so I'm thoroughly confused
16:35 < AnimalFarmPig> Gluster is a filesystem-- one layer up from block layer
16:36 < coderphive> AnimalFarmPig, I should've phrased it better
16:36 < estranger> yeah we do EBS, but EBS is runnign on highly specialized hardware.  I was thinking of onprem hardware, and most folks when tlak about onprem block storage its SAN type stuff
16:36 < coderphive> AnimalFarmPig, people will tell you Gluster can be used as a block storage replacement, it cannot
16:36 < estranger> EBS we suggest over allocating to get the iops, and RAID0ing a few together if you need more perf
16:36 < estranger> still rather see you on i3s :)
16:37 < coderphive> estranger, yeah that has nothing to do with K8s
16:37 < AnimalFarmPig> I guess I think of different things when people talk about block storage. I think about block device that I can point a filesystem at
16:37 < coderphive> because on prem you're going to load up Ceph or Gluster
16:37 < coderphive> The problem then has to do with Ceph and Gluster
16:37 < coderphive> AnimalFarmPig, no, your thought is correct
16:37 < AnimalFarmPig> or something that can natively use a raw block device, I guess, like MySQL
16:38 < coderphive> That was my real point though, this isn't a k8s problem
16:38 < coderphive> It's widely known unless you go buy some really expensive hardware that you're not doing remote block storage on prem
16:38 < estranger> coderphive, the issue with k8s is stateful sets not doing local storage in GA yet afaik
16:39 < abakedapplepie> slack being down is the greatest thing all week
16:39 < abakedapplepie> so many puns
16:39 < coderphive> They can't move local storage PV around, yes
16:39 < AnimalFarmPig> iSCSI is at the block layer. I suppose you could also run nbd (scaleway has a huge infrastructure built on nbd).
16:39 < coderphive> That has nothing to do with running stateful apps in kube
16:39 < estranger> yer confusing me
16:40 < coderphive> Most of kube's use is not on prem right now
16:40 < estranger> dont want shit to move around is the point :) the cpu as close to the storage is what you want
16:40 < coderphive> I think you misunderstand how k8s works
16:40 < coderphive> Node A, B, C
16:40 < estranger> oh ok
16:40 < coderphive> Pod A, B, C
16:41 < coderphive> Pod A will not launch on Node A all the time
16:41 < coderphive> It'll shift
16:41 < AnimalFarmPig> a Pod being a collection of applications wrapped in dockers
16:41 < coderphive> The reason is because of CPU scheduling
16:41 < estranger> we require it not to shift, because that means you have to use some sort of not directly attached storage.
16:41 < coderphive> No, you're demanding it not shift which is unrealistic
16:41 < estranger> and we dont care if Node A shits the bed
16:42 < onenerdyguy> So, anyone here good with exchange on prem? I'm having an issue with calendar web sharing, and I'm not sure whats going on
16:42 < coderphive> What I've read is they're going to move the PV with the pod
16:42 < estranger> then dedicated Nodes to us
16:42 < coderphive> which makes sense
16:42 < coderphive> Dedicated nodes in Kube is a disaster waiting to happen
16:42 < coderphive> Yeah, you just don't understand how k8s works then
16:43 < estranger> no, this is why k8s isnt mature for all workloads yet
16:43 < coderphive> We're describing the same thing
16:43 < estranger> yes.. i fully understand
16:43 < AnimalFarmPig> I think the "containerize everything" and "big data / fast data" architectures are somewhat antithetical
16:43 < coderphive> I guarantee you won't get to launch on the same node all the time
16:43 < coderphive> k8s will shift PV from Node A to Node B and you'll launch on Node B
16:43 < estranger> coderphive, i gurantee you will run into problems running our workloads on k8s then
16:43 < coderphive> Why?
16:44 < AnimalFarmPig> and that's the point. You want your big data / fast data application to launch as close to its data as possible-- the same physical machine, preferably with direct access to the storage over SATA/SAS
16:44 < coderphive> AnimalFarmPig, yes, I'm not arguing that
16:44 < AnimalFarmPig> and that's incompatible with the k8's idea of abstracting away your application from the hardware it runs on
16:44 < coderphive> He's just describing an anti-pattern in orchestration in general
16:45 < coderphive> like I wouldn't even do that in VM orchestration
16:45 < AnimalFarmPig> if you want k8's to be useful for that kind of application, it needs to be able to orchestrate not just the containers but the storage that they access
16:45 < estranger> if node A shits the bed and pod a comes up on node B, how is it oging to PV the data before node b comes up? and that is a big delay to PV over lots of data
16:45 < coderphive> I don't know the mechanics behind how they plan to shift PV's tbh
16:45 < estranger> coderphive, even in vm world we want to get pinned to the host/harddrives .. we dont care if the host goes down
16:45 < coderphive> but I imagine you're going to have to implement some form of data retention
16:46 < estranger> coderphive, id be interested to see how that works..
16:46 < coderphive> then it'll copy that to the new node and bring datastax back up
16:46 < coderphive> I went through all this shit with Datastax at $lastco
16:46 < coderphive> It was a mess
16:46 < coderphive> I get what you're saying
16:46 < scwizard> my local burger place is really pissing me off lately
16:46 < scwizard> they keep trying to give me expired half and half
16:46 < AnimalFarmPig> In XenServer and ESXi, I can live migrate the backing store of a VM from one node to another
16:46 < coderphive> but it's not going to be solved via saying, "I want node A every time"
16:46 < scwizard> they put a sticker over the expiration date thinking I won't realize it's expired
16:47 < estranger> coderphive, you can run cassandra/dse on k8s/docker now... and it will work fine when you are on the happy path ... until it doesn't.  there are lots of possible unhappy paths in distributed systems and adding k8s into it right now adds a lot more
16:47 < scwizard> i hate to be the "can i speak to a manager" guy but what the fuck
16:47 < coderphive> estranger, you're not paying attention
16:47 < coderphive> I get it
16:47 < scwizard> how hard can it be to not serve expired food
16:47 < estranger> coderphive, multitasking here :) sorry
16:47 < ebol4> are you buying half and half from a burger place?
16:47 < ebol4> what?
16:47  * estranger fist bumps coderphive 
16:47 < scwizard> ebol4: for my coffee silly
16:47 < ebol4> OH
16:47 < coderphive> You'll be able to launch with a PV on your same node, I don't argue that
16:48 < coderphive> It's how it'll get done
16:48 < estranger> and it will get there, and i think quite soon
16:48 < coderphive> Also, if you're in GCP or AWS this is not an issue, so saying k8s isn't ready for stateful apps is wrong
16:48 < estranger> and i cant wait.. cus everyone is asking for k8s
16:48 < scwizard> so slack is broken
16:48 < scwizard> cool :|
16:48 < scwizard> https://status.slack.com/
16:48 <+layer-eight> * scwizard β†’  Slack System Status
16:48 < coderphive> The only reason I get hyped over this shit is because people go to meet ups and espouse this shit and it's flat out wrong
16:48 < coderphive> Yes, in a DC you're right
16:49 < coderphive> In the cloud, you're wrong. Just gotta be specific.
16:49 < estranger> coderphive, we're also "enterprise" so there are lots of things you "can" do but we will say dont do it. stability and reliability is a priority
16:50 < estranger> coderphive, are you familiar with diamanti?
16:50 < w1cked> Any of you guys have a helpdesk that is allowed to modify GPOs?
16:50 < coderphive> no
16:50 < humpaxx> w1cked: yes
16:50 < estranger> going to talk to them about dse on their hardware
16:50 < abakedapplepie> that sounds dangerous
16:51 < coderphive> tbh I've stayed away from DC's because companies are trying to be cheap and solve problems stupidly in the DC
16:51 < coderphive> There's a lot of politics and wasted energy
16:51 < w1cked> Ok, just didn't know if it was a common practice. Our guys are goofballs and I'm the system administrator here. The network infrastructure manager is trying to get me to show one of them how to create them but I'm uneasy about it.
16:52 < coderphive> the DC needs better accessibility in order for devs to want to go back
16:52 < w1cked> Especially because our helpdesk has a bad rep for a reason lol
16:52 < estranger> coderphive, it's pretty split for me id say in my space .. lots of places still have their own DCs but most are at least looking at public clouds
16:52 < coderphive> That's my theory anyway
16:52 < humpaxx> w1cked: Its only because i am the helpdesk, server admin, network admin and more stuff :p
16:52 < w1cked> ah ok
16:53 < w1cked> I tried to find out online if it's a common practice but couldn't find anything
16:53 < estranger> hybrid cloud is pretty common too... multi-cloud is the new hot buzz but dont see that much yet
16:53 < w1cked> I used to work for an MSP so I played the same role you do, now I work at a company internally
16:53 < syere> w1cked: Generally no. However, I have seen plenty of cases where you have one trusted help desk guy and they end up getting access slowly. Usually it tends to be the company grooming that person to transition from helpdesk to admin
16:53 < coderphive> Let's be real, hybrid cloud workloads fall in very few categories and usually because of existing mainframes or Oracle datastores
16:54 < coderphive> As an SRE, I'd say most companies don't "need" multi-cloud unless you'd like the ability to move away from your provider
16:55 < scwizard> if you ignore the fact that hybrid clouds have extra complexity to them, rather than their feet being all in one place or another
16:55 < scwizard> they're greatg
16:55 < shoh> anyone here like dank memes?
16:55 < scwizard> i do
16:55 < voice> how dank are we talking here
16:56 < shoh> whats the dankest meme you've seen
16:56 < humpaxx> w1cked: Im MSP too at the mo but im far too comfortable to look for something new. Been here for.. 6 years now i think.
16:56 < estranger> coderphive, I see it when you have legacy systems in a local DC and now you are writing new applications in the cloud that need to use data from the legacy systems
16:56 < estranger> often transitional, but the transition can take years
16:56 <@killdash9> so happy that Slack is jacked. So quiet. Much peace. Very working.
16:56 < humpaxx> shoh: The one with a frog on a one wheeled bicycle
16:57 < scwizard> shoh: that 4chan post that was like "some of you are alright, don't come in to school tomorrow"
16:57 < ebol4> humpaxx: luv that one
16:57 < estranger> going form their old monolithic legacy systems and dicing it into microservices as they move into more modern architectures
16:57 <@killdash9> you'd think they'd have a better name than 'one-wheeld bicycle'
16:57 < JFDkthx> uno cycle
16:57 < w1cked> lul
16:57 < JFDkthx> use spanish
16:58 < JFDkthx> !quote 14:56:57          humpaxx | shoh: The one with a frog on a one wheeled bicycle
16:58 < humpaxx> killdash9: unicycle? english isnΒ΄t my native language so i wasnΒ΄t sure
16:58 < shoh> ugh
16:58 < shoh> killdash9 is here
16:58 < shoh> bet he's going to start talking about mlp
16:58 < humpaxx> (collective groaning)
16:58 < corn266> oh shit waddup it's dat humpaxx
16:59 < humpaxx> sup corn266
16:59 < w1cked> yeah I liked the MSP gig, it was pretty fast paced. Used to work in DC, now I'm like 10 minutes from Cleveland lol
16:59 < shoh> https://i.pinimg.com/originals/08/0c/fd/080cfd6a4e2025a6a56c0c34f9608f15.jpg
16:59 <+layer-eight> * shoh β†’  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 34,726 bytes
16:59 < shoh> this is myu favourite meme :-)
17:00 < voice> humpaxx, was the same way at the last msp I worked at, but money and bad management made me finally jump ship
17:00 < corn266> what shoh you don't like googling your name and then "hedgehog" ?
17:01 < shoh> https://cdn.drawception.com/images/panels/2017/5-15/MgOzK6QfBg-2.png
17:01 <+layer-eight> * shoh β†’  IMAGE/PNG Document, 30,681 bytes
17:01 < shoh> like this one?
17:01 < humpaxx> wow shoh f5u7.. its been a while
17:01 < corn266> yea
17:02 < abakedapplepie> f7u12*
17:02 < corn266> fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu*
17:06 <@cryptic1> fix SLACK NOW
17:07 < Sousapro> cryptic1: mattermost.org TICKET CLOSED
17:07 <@cryptic1> enterprise ready my fucking ass
17:07 < hxcsp> my slacks working now
17:07 < corn266> can your coworkers log in? afaik people who logged out can't log back in
17:07 < Sousapro> I had at least six 9s on my mattermost instance
17:07 < SynMonger> have you tried turning it off and on again?
17:07 < AnimalFarmPig> Slack has been running a bunch of ads during the World Cup. Maybe the outage is from all of the new customers the ads are bringing.
17:07 < Sousapro> if you let me claim my maintenance window
17:07 < AnimalFarmPig> :P
17:08 < McDonaldsWiFi> hxcsp: so the viagra helped?
17:08 < AnimalFarmPig> at least the Slack ad is better than the damn VW ads with the shitty accents or the Apple ad with the annoying music
17:08 <@JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: what? ads?
17:09 < AnimalFarmPig> JollyRgrs: during the World Cup
17:09 <@JollyRgrs> dangit, if i had known that, i'd have started to use slack
17:09 <@JollyRgrs> oh...
17:09 < AnimalFarmPig> it seems like every commercial break is an ad for slack, then vw, then apple
17:09 <@JollyRgrs> you mean non-slack ads on world cup
17:09 <@JollyRgrs> wait..
17:09 <@JollyRgrs> slack has actual ads?S
17:09 <@JollyRgrs> lol
17:10 < corn266> oh shit super monkey ball 2 is up nexted on sgdq
17:11 < scwizard> hmm not sure if i like dank memes at work
17:11 <+ihre> s/dank memes at //
17:12 < AnimalFarmPig> no, not ads in the slack application. Ads on the TV for slack.
17:13 <+TuxedoJack> 2 hours down now, nice
17:13 < JFDkthx> i think we implement a new chat system to replace slack
17:13 < JFDkthx> internet chat something
17:14 < hxcsp> how about
17:14 < hxcsp> internet
17:14 < hxcsp> RELAY
17:14 < hxcsp> chat
17:14 < agent_white> :o
17:14 < agent_white> Mornin' folks.
17:14 < Heresiarch> nah. It'll never take off unless you can have gif plugins.
17:14 < JFDkthx> ehhh
17:14 < hxcsp> i coined it
17:14 <@killdash9> fuck, I hear Slack is back online.
17:14 < AnimalFarmPig> not back online for me
17:14 <@cryptic1> killdash9, its up and down for a while now
17:14 < Heresiarch> killdash9: soon(tm)
17:14 <@killdash9> people's computers/phones are making noises
17:14 < hxcsp> i hear if you signed out you cant get in
17:14 < narziss> irc seems too old for young devs.
17:14 < hxcsp> but if you were in then its working
17:14 < AnimalFarmPig> nor according to status page
17:14 <@cryptic1> cloud hosted I am sure
17:15 < narziss> they want to communicate with emojis and guis.
17:15 <@cryptic1> never goes down
17:15 <@cryptic1>  /s
17:15 < narziss> maybe ill trick them with mIRC
17:15 < AnimalFarmPig> hxcsp: I haven't signed out
17:15 < narziss> yaaaa thats it
17:15 < hxcsp> AnimalFarmPig: well then i guess my sources are wrong
17:15 < hxcsp> but mine is working
17:16 < JFDkthx> cryptic1: they need to starting taking advantage of hybrid distributed multicloud, with unconverged data independance
17:16 < scwizard> yeah
17:16 < scwizard> that's what they need
17:16 < AnimalFarmPig> hxcsp: lucky you, I guess? Unless it's a work slack, then I'm sorry
17:16 <@cryptic1> their bullshit always goes down and takes out every customer
17:16 <@cryptic1> talk about engineered like shit
17:16 < scwizard> kinda hard to say you're wrong
17:16 < AnimalFarmPig> how2federatedchat?
17:17 < scwizard> considering the situation
17:17 < estranger> JFDkthx, DATA AUTONOMY
17:17 < estranger> GARBAAAGE DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
17:17 < SynMonger> federate this
17:17 < AnimalFarmPig> Cisco Spark / WebEx Teams is still up :P
17:17 < estranger> my slack is back
17:17 < silentfury-s4pro> Microsoft Teams too
17:17 < scwizard> it's been almost 2 hours now
17:17 <@cryptic1> estranger, don't worry it will still have random issues sending msgs
17:17 < AnimalFarmPig> I bet Skype For Business is still working
17:17 < scwizard> how could you fuck up so bad that you're down down down for that long
17:18 < technonerd> Yup Skype is good
17:18 < abakedapplepie> fuck skyp
17:18 <@cryptic1> scwizard, and it remains unstable for hours later
17:18 < abakedapplepie> in the butt
17:18 < abakedapplepie> hard
17:18 <@cryptic1> like their msg queue dies
17:18 <@cryptic1> or stops relaying
17:18 < estranger> scwizard, look at their stack... its basically LAMP + Java
17:18 < silentfury-s4pro> java.\
17:18 < estranger> im surprised its up for as long as it is :)
17:18 <@cryptic1> java mem leak better reboot all the servers
17:19 < estranger> fix yer code, boyeeee
17:19 < scwizard> i really do wonder what's going on
17:20 < scwizard> maybe the prod datastore died and they tried restoring from a backup and it failed
17:20 < scwizard> and they
17:20 < scwizard> 're afraid to be online and ppl to find out thier chat history from the last day is gone
17:20 < technonerd> Npm dev build got pushed to prod
17:20 < scwizard> my coworker just now: "we can just use gchats"
17:21 <+ihre> pfy rebooted the master db
17:21 < Heresiarch> hmm...I wonder if mattermost has a hosted version...
17:21 < estranger> scwizard, with the right architecture that wouldnt be a problem :D
17:21 < silentfury-s4pro> mattermost et al gonna get a big jump in customers for self-hosted
17:21 < scwizard> estranger: i'm pretty sure at this point we all agree slack doesn't have the right architecture
17:22 < hxcsp> AnimalFarmPig: is a work slack
17:22 <+ihre> but muh icons, muh reaction emojis
17:22 < estranger> scwizard, im actually impressed they make it work
17:22 < estranger> its a feat
17:23 < scwizard> who here remembers april 2011?
17:23 < scwizard> https://aws.amazon.com/message/65648/
17:23 <+layer-eight> * scwizard β†’  Summary of the Amazon EC2 and Amazon RDS Service Disruption in the US East Region
17:23 < estranger> #neverForget
17:25 < AnimalFarmPig> Slack has 100% uptime, except for right now-- https://i.imgur.com/2RdmjAk.png
17:25 <+layer-eight> * AnimalFarmPig β†’  IMGUR Image β†’ Image/png β†’ a few seconds ago β†’ 1068x902 β†’ ⚘ 6
17:27 < scwizard> ayy lmao
17:27 < AnimalFarmPig> I've been 100% sober for the last 30 days, except for all the times I got drunk
17:27 < Heresiarch> s/all the times/today/
17:27 <+layer-eight> [SED Heresiarch/AnimalFarmPig] I've been 100% sober for the last 30 days, except for today I got drunk
17:27 < Sousapro> talkin' bout ketchup chips and the game Battleship
17:28 < AnimalFarmPig> I needed to blow off some steam after working 18 hours days for the last month, except for weekdays and weekends
17:28 < estranger> thats a lot of work
17:28 < scwizard> okokok need to get to work
17:29 < AnimalFarmPig> that's just how I was raised, with a strong work ethic, except for on weekdays and weekends
17:29 < Rapture> RIP slack
17:29 <@cryptic1> AnimalFarmPig, back to work
17:29 <@cryptic1> Rapture, back to work
17:29 <@cryptic1> estranger, back to work
17:30 < estranger> no
17:30 < Rapture> nevar!!!
17:30 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, back to work
17:30 < vinrock> https://i.imgur.com/q5C5aPm.png
17:30 <+layer-eight> * vinrock β†’  IMGUR Image β†’ Image/png β†’ a few seconds ago β†’ 1009x690 β†’ ⚘ 14
17:30 < shoh> cryptic1:
17:30 < shoh> voice me
17:30 < shoh> or else
17:30 < voice> no
17:31 <@cryptic1> there fixed
17:31 < shoh> "Loss" will always be my πŸ“‘favoriteπŸ“‘ meme. It 🈢has🈢 itπŸ‡�πŸ‡Ή all: an easily-mockable, pretentious artist at itsπŸ‡�πŸ‡Ή origin; πŸ…°οΈa πŸ…°οΈπŸ…°οΈ deep lore of context; a πŸ…°οΈ template that allows for incredible artistic interpretation. It's also aπŸ…°οΈ deeply codified in-joke😜 that takes, likeπŸ’‹, tenπŸ”Ÿ minutes to properly explain, and evenπŸŒ† then, you just have🈢 to, πŸ’’like πŸ’’, "get it πŸ‡�
17:31 <@cryptic1> happy?
17:31 < shoh> I warned you
17:31 <@cryptic1> I cannot see emotes
17:31 < Hatter> We do not make deals with terrorists
17:32 < estranger> someone fetch me breakfast
17:32 < AnimalFarmPig> no
17:32 < estranger> pancakes and sausage sounds good
17:33 < estranger> plz do the needful
17:33 < AnimalFarmPig> insufficient privileges
17:33 < AnimalFarmPig> (this is the part where you say, "sudo !!")
17:34 < Hatter> what's everyone enjoying for lunch today
17:35 < estranger> im still workign on breakfast
17:37 < AnimalFarmPig> I think I'll go grab a french dip from the drive-through https://www.schlotzskys.com/menu/sandwiches/french-dip
17:37 <+layer-eight> * AnimalFarmPig β†’  French Dip Sandwich: Nutrition & Ingredients | Schlotzsky's
17:37 < Hatter> a nice french dip sounds really good
17:38 < StrongBad> do you ever dip when you say dip, like "diiiyup"
17:38 < estranger> I see your schlotzskys and raise you a Portillos
17:38 < estranger> https://www.portillos.com/fifty-shades-of-gravy/ see: Dipped
17:38 <+layer-eight> * estranger β†’  Fifty Shades of Gravy: The Many Ways to Order a Portillo's Italian Beef Sandwich - General News - News | Portillo's
17:38 < vavkamil> need any software to generate fancy graphs
17:38 < estranger> Dipped w/ extra hots
17:38 < AnimalFarmPig> never tried portillos when I lived in chicagoland
17:39 < estranger> AnimalFarmPig, whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
17:39 < AnimalFarmPig> looks pretty good
17:39 < aName> Starting to get annoyed with the level of support I seem to be expected to provide. Like... sign into their office365 account for them because they might not figure out how. I can't even. Can we stop hiring incompetents?
17:39 < Hatter> vavkamil: power bi?
17:39 < AnimalFarmPig> d3js?
17:39 < estranger> d3 +1
17:40 < StrongBad> aName: that's the big dark secret about a lot of employees---most aren't even at a basic level of competence with anything, even browsing/signing in to a website
17:40 < StrongBad> open secret I guess. Seems fucked up IMO.
17:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> shoh i hate you
17:40 < Heresiarch> ...fifty shades of gravy.
17:40 < Heresiarch> ...I'll be in my bunk.
17:40 < Hatter> Heresiarch: it's word play based on the famous book "Fifty Shades of Gray"
17:41 < estranger> the spunk bunk
17:41 < mrghostman> we have employees who call laptops...."lab tops".  i cant even
17:41 < Hatter> it was really popular with housewives some years ago
17:41 < Hatter> I had a lady read some of it to me, it was the worst
17:41 < shoh> what the fuck do you want McDonaldsWiFi you shit eating CUNT
17:41 < Heresiarch> Hatter: thank you, dearie.
17:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
17:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> you're emojis have raped my terminal you fuck
17:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> your*
17:41 < narziss> time to deauth at mcdonalds.
17:41 < shoh> whπŸ…°οΈt emojis
17:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> oh you suck
17:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> my terminal looks like hulk had sex with it
17:42 < asimon> What have i come back to
17:42 < shoh> screencap pls
17:42 < asimon> I should just stay at lunch
17:42 < estranger> asimon, what was for lunch
17:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> the more we talk the btter it gets
17:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> load me up with emojis and ill screen cap it
17:42 < Hatter> I really want a french dip now and I don't know where to get one
17:42 < StrongBad> france
17:43 < Hatter> they probably don't call it that there
17:43 < coderphive> wow
17:43 < coderphive> Slack is still down
17:43 < estranger> maybe ill hae to do portillos for dinner tonight now
17:43 < AnimalFarmPig> they probably just call it a dip
17:43 < shoh> whπŸ…°οΈt do you mean?
17:43 < Hatter> oh hi shoh, how are you feeling today?
17:43 < StrongBad> I was wondering if it was just me but it's the whole thing coderphive?
17:43 < estranger> and a chocolate shake cake (yes.. a full slice of cake in your chocolate shake... amazing)
17:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> shoh: moar
17:43 < estranger> also, like 3000 calories
17:43 < coderphive> StrongBad yeah I think so
17:43 < shoh> Fuck off Hatter you soy drinking little bitch
17:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> you did like 4 in that message way earlier
17:43 < asimon> estranger: chicken quesadilla from a place down the street
17:43 < Hatter> but I never take soy
17:43 < coderphive> Do you guys think I should sell my MBP and get a x1 Carbon with Linux on it?
17:44 < shoh> ok McDonaldsWiFi
17:44 < estranger> asimon, pretty good?
17:44 < Hatter> shoh: if you keep trying one of your insults will eventually hit the mark
17:44 < shoh> you asked
17:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> he called you a soy boi
17:44 < shoh> 😠NOT SO FAST! 😀PUT YOUR HANDS πŸ™Œ WHERE I CAN SEE EM! πŸ‘€ YOU ARE BEING ROBBED! πŸ’•πŸ’•πŸ˜° GIVE ME YOUR VIRGINITY 😌 OR I WILL DO THINGS TO YOU!πŸ˜³πŸ’• WHAT!? 😀😀YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAND IT OVER πŸ’•πŸ˜ πŸ˜˜ THAT DOES IT!! 😠✊✊ IMMA FIST πŸ‘ŠπŸ™ŠπŸ™Š YO ASS!!! πŸ‘„πŸ‘…πŸ’•πŸ’“βœŠ SO BEND OVER FAGGOT! πŸ˜³πŸ˜ πŸ‘…πŸ‘„πŸ˜€ YOU ABOUT TO FEEL MY FISTS βœŠπŸ‘ŠπŸ˜˜πŸ˜£ WE GONNA FILM THIS SHIT TO MAKE THE πŸ’–STACK
17:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> yup
17:44 < Heresiarch> coderphive: would you prefer linux to OSX?
17:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> that fucked my term all up
17:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
17:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> one sec lemme screencap it
17:44 < coderphive> Heresiarch yeah, I think so
17:44 < Heresiarch> coderphive: then yes.
17:44 < estranger> +1
17:44 < coderphive> Heresiarch I run linux at home
17:44 < estranger> those x1's looked nice the last time I looked.. was a few years ago though
17:44 < asimon> estranger: Yeah for sure. Could have used some more vegetables but was definitely worth cashing in on a lunch a coworker owed me
17:45 < coderphive> estranger the new models are basically MBP's
17:45 <+ktechmidas> What the fuck Facebook, what the fuck.... it just sent me a message from 2009
17:45 < coderphive> I wanted a thin laptop, lots of power, and Thunderbolt
17:45 < coderphive> so when I found the x1 carbon I was like awww ye
17:45 <+ktechmidas> I was waiting for that girl to reply, I thought she'd lost interest
17:45 < coderphive> That was basically why I bought a MBP tho
17:45 < Heresiarch> coderphive: either the x1 or a dell xps.
17:45 < estranger> coderphive, they look nice
17:45 < coderphive> XPS sucks
17:45 < grumplestiltzkin> From:	"Intuit Inc." <quickbooks@paolasrestaurant.com>   Subject: Automated Intuit  Notification        Dear customer, This payment notice is being provided to you by Intuit Inc. from Viking Collection Service Inc. Please click the button above to see your details   link goes to http://minercocorp.com/?1MUI=BqYRBqGS3ITUPRTwFPGKYYUDP   .    looks legit, right?
17:45 < coderphive> Had one
17:45 < estranger> i liked my xps a couple years ago, xps13
17:45 < estranger> ~3 years ago
17:46 < coderphive> Lack of Thunderbolt
17:46 <+ktechmidas> I ended up with an Acer Swift
17:46 <+ktechmidas> nice laptops
17:46 < estranger> now im on a mbp .. its alright
17:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> https://i.imgur.com/CNV9VG4.png shoh
17:46 <+layer-eight> * McDonaldsWiFi β†’  IMGUR Image β†’ Image/png β†’ a few seconds ago β†’ 1173x660 β†’ ⚘ 3
17:46 < coderphive> Also, running Ubuntu like 2 LTS versions behind
17:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> and its just become worse since then lol
17:46 < estranger> i dropped it pretty good at ohare nd its still tickin
17:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> my screen is fuckkked
17:46 < shoh> lol
17:46 < shoh> nice
17:46 < coderphive> Also, it ticked me off that because their versions were so far behind they wouldn't release drivers for newer linux
17:46 < estranger> runnign through the ohare parking lot and my backpack pops open and the laptop shoots out skidding acrossing the pavement
17:46 < coderphive> so I ended up having to build custom kernels etc
17:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> https://i.imgur.com/oRykW2M.png shoh
17:47 <+layer-eight> * McDonaldsWiFi β†’  IMGUR Image β†’ Image/png β†’ a few seconds ago β†’ 1343x622 β†’ ⚘ 3
17:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
17:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> oh god it's even worse now
17:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> i need to reboot my screen, ty
17:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> xDD
17:47 < coderphive> lmao
17:47 < coderphive> UTF-8 your terminal m8
17:47 < estranger> ctrl+l ctrl+l ctrl+l
17:48 < StrongBad> do any of you cook enough to know the fancy names for things
17:48 < grumplestiltzkin> McDonaldsWiFi: degauss
17:48 < Popzi> I cooked cheese on toast once in the toaster
17:48 < coderphive> shoh have you arranged the queen in drag yet?
17:48 < grumplestiltzkin> StrongBad: somewhat - what are you looking for?
17:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> it is UTF-8...
17:49 < coderphive> McDonaldsWiFi download powerline fonts
17:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> I think.. now i gotta check
17:49 < StrongBad> grumplestiltzkin: what's the name for when you cook sausages in onions and then reduce the onion + liquid to a gravy
17:49 < coderphive> Lots of fonts are missing the emoji's
17:49 < StrongBad> can apply to any meat I guess
17:49 < coderphive> rip
17:49 < shoh> Yeah I have coderphive
17:49 < shoh> http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/32300000/Best-looking-mustached-lady-ever-freddie-mercury-32349341-440-500.jpg
17:49 <+layer-eight> * shoh β†’  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 235,008 bytes
17:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> lucida console is what I use
17:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> I like it xD
17:49 < grumplestiltzkin> the liquid is just called a reduction I want to say
17:49 < Heresiarch> StrongBad: reducing, making gravy, and/or deglazing.
17:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> I'm using putty to ssh into a screen session
17:50 < coderphive> shoh lmao
17:50 < grumplestiltzkin> you mean that or the whole process/dish?
17:50 < StrongBad> OK I called it a reduction
17:50 < StrongBad> I wasn't sure what to call the sauce
17:50 < shoh> Did you guys know
17:50 < shoh> in the original script of full metal jacket
17:50 < AnimalFarmPig> McDonaldsWiFi: why not kitty?
17:50 < shoh> joker dies at the end
17:50 < Hatter> shoh: url
17:50 < AnimalFarmPig> kitty > putty
17:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> id
17:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> id
17:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> idk***
17:50 < shoh> Hatter url of script?
17:50 < dragonfleas> We did it boys
17:50 < dragonfleas> legal medical marijuana in oklahoma
17:51 < grumplestiltzkin> secureCRT > putty.  I'm loving it now
17:51 < coderphive> did you know if FMJ were real life everyone would've died
17:51 < Heresiarch> StrongBad: usually a meat-derived sauce is a gravy.
17:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> can it do persistent ssh sessions?
17:51 < shoh> Hatter http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/amk/doc/0065.html
17:51 < coderphive> RIP usmc era vietnam
17:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> my irc is hosted at my home lab, and I ssh into it
17:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> so i can keep IRC on all the time
17:51 < shoh>    Cemetery.  Joker's funeral.  It is a bright  sunny day.  Joker's mother and father, pale and  drawn, are grouped under a canopy facing the  flag-draped casket, flanked by relatives and friends.
17:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> Hatsjoe where the hell you been?!
17:51 < grumplestiltzkin> Heresiarch: i think it needs to be thickened like with flour to be a gravy, not positive though
17:51 < DomLS3> McDonaldsWiFi: because you have no life
17:51 < coderphive> McDonaldsWiFi Poor mans BNC
17:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> DomLS3: you're not wrong
17:51 < StrongBad> welcome to california in 1996 dragonfleas
17:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> coderphive: +++
17:51 < AnimalFarmPig> McDonaldsWiFi: not as far as I know. It's just a more refined putty.
17:51 < Heresiarch> grumplestiltzkin: you might be right. Good catch.
17:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> OH
17:52 < shoh> esnesfp
17:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> oh well, ill be leaving this laptop behind in a couple days when I quit
17:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> ill figure out something at the next job lol
17:52 < DomLS3> shoh: Abuse_Man65 isn't here. Derp
17:52 < shoh> HERP A DERP DERP
17:52 < shoh> derp this retart
17:52 < shoh> 8====D
17:52 < DomLS3> That's a small pp
17:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> hammer head
17:52 < coderphive> Hot take: DomLS3 == shoh
17:52 <+TuxedoJack> 2.5 hours, Slack sysadmins must be shitting bricks
17:53 < DomLS3> coderphive: DomLS3 > shoh*
17:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> here I'm gonna type out my ASCII penis, you ready?
17:53 < coderphive> :o
17:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> DomLS3
17:53 < Heresiarch> TuxedoJack: from the outage messages, it's all hands at this point.
17:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> damn that a good ascii dick
17:53 <+TuxedoJack> Heresiarch: my senior management is accelerating our move to MS Teams now
17:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> huehuehuehuehue im 13 and this is funny
17:53 < DomLS3> McDonaldsWiFi: Will it be blank to signify that you have no pebis?
17:53 <+TuxedoJack> I'm about to fucking open the Kraken on my desk here
17:53 < coderphive> McDonaldsWiFi the balls are bit small for my taste
17:53 < Heresiarch> TuxedoJack: ...I'm sorry.
17:53 < DomLS3> s/desk/butthole
17:53 <+layer-eight> [SED DomLS3/TuxedoJack] I'm about to fucking open the Kraken on my butthole here
17:53 < DomLS3> rekt
17:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa1vXovXn-M DomLS3
17:53 <+layer-eight> * McDonaldsWiFi β†’  YouTube β†’ How To Pronounce Penis β†’ ⚘ 3,961,768 ↑ 13,999 ↓ 883 ✍ 2,201
17:54 < coderphive> lmao
17:54 <+TuxedoJack> Heresiarch: I would rather my mouth have an intimate relationship with the business end of a shotgun than have to deal with Teams
17:54 < DomLS3> mmbeepeepus
17:54 < coderphive> Can you use Pebis in a sentence DomLS3?
17:54 <+TuxedoJack> Because fucking FUCK Office 2016
17:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> his schefrude is a good one too
17:54 < Hatter> TuxedoJack: hey come on, you don't mean that
17:54 <+TuxedoJack> Exporting mailboxes via Powershell and hoping it works is fucking retarded
17:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3_DjiLLDfo
17:54 <+layer-eight> * McDonaldsWiFi β†’  YouTube β†’ How to Pronounce Schadenfreude β†’ ⚘ 1,882,724 ↑ 7,098 ↓ 650 ✍ 1,311
17:54 < asimon> sean toodle was my favorite
17:54 < Heresiarch> TuxedoJack: mattermost? Self-hosted, so compliance is easier...
17:55 < DomLS3> TuxedoJack: exporting mailboxes via powershell is easy as fuck
17:55 < DomLS3> assuming on prem exchange
17:55 < coderphive> "compliance"
17:55 <+TuxedoJack> DomLS3: ding ding fucking ding
17:55 < coderphive> jw when businesses will get over that sweet buzzword
17:55 < DomLS3> it has NEVER not worked for me
17:55 < grumplestiltzkin> hm. serious sam in VR.   that might be jarring
17:55 < coderphive> :|
17:55 < McDonaldsWiFi> |:-|
17:55 <+TuxedoJack> From on-prem, yes. From O365, fuck no
17:55 < Heresiarch> coderphive: when it stops being a regulatory requirement.
17:55 < DomLS3> You can't export via powershell from O365
17:55 < shoh> s/on-prem/my butthole
17:55 < DomLS3> You have to do it from the admin panel
17:55 < coderphive> Heresiarch I was halfway being sarcastic
17:55 <+layer-eight> [SED shoh/TuxedoJack] From my butthole, yes. From O365, fuck no
17:56 < Heresiarch> coderphive: fair. Is a frequent dev whine, though. ;)
17:56 < coderphive> Like most devs, I think most "compliance" is joke worthy
17:56 <+TuxedoJack> DomLS3: again, ding ding fucking ding. The eDiscovery / export mechanism in O365 sucks more than rich white daddy's money sorority girls around coke dealers
17:56 < DomLS3> TuxedoJack: truth
17:57 < coderphive> and partially regressionist behavior
17:57 < shoh> s/rich white daddy's money sorority girls around coke dealers/Hatter
17:57 <+layer-eight> [SED shoh/TuxedoJack] DomLS3: again, ding ding fucking ding. The eDiscovery / export mechanism in O365 sucks more than Hatter
17:57 < Hatter> was that really necessary
17:57 < DomLS3> TuxedoJack: If you still have an on prem server, you could move the mailbox from O365 back down to the on prem server THEN export via powershell
17:57 < coderphive> lmao
17:57 < shoh> s/necessary/a dick in my ass
17:57 <+layer-eight> [SED shoh/Hatter] was that really a dick in my ass
17:57 < DomLS3> pain in the ass but it works
17:57 < Hatter> I don't like being misquoted
17:57 < danwatson611> Hey guys can someone help me with an issue i am currently facing please with one of my users
17:57 < Heresiarch> coderphive: the self-reporting compliance schemas (lolSOC) are silly. PCI/HIPAA have some actual teeth to them.
17:57 < danwatson611> outlook sucks dick
17:57 < shoh> s/being misquoted/gay marriage
17:57 <+TuxedoJack> DomLS3: and that's fucking retarded. No, most of them are getting migrated from on-prem straight to fucking cloud
17:58 <+layer-eight> [SED shoh/Hatter] I don't like gay marriage
17:58 < mrghostman> inb4 layer-eight gets rekt
17:58 <+TuxedoJack> I'd rather they be back on Exchange 2007 than that shit
17:58 < coderphive> Heresiarch It's not that I think the goals are bad; it's dictating the execution of them that I have a problem with
17:58 < DomLS3> TuxedoJack: I agree. I fought so hard not to go to Office 365
17:58 < DomLS3> SO fuckin hard
17:58 < DomLS3> I hate o365
17:58 <+TuxedoJack> I don't MIND O365 for Office licensing
17:58 < Heresiarch> coderphive: gotta have some standard to start from.
17:58 <+TuxedoJack> But fuck if Exchange Online is better than on-prem
17:59 < DomLS3> it's better in terms of uptime
17:59 < DomLS3> that's it
17:59 < coderphive> Heresiarch There's standards and then there's dictating devs don't have access to prod bc <insert assumption here>
17:59 < AnimalFarmPig> I can't wait to read the report of what went wrong with slack
17:59 < DomLS3> don't have to worry about extra hardware for redundancy/failover... database corruption etc
17:59 < DomLS3> that's the only thing better
17:59 < estranger> AnimalFarmPig, me too.. what is your guess?
17:59 <+TuxedoJack> Aaaaaaaaaaand the employee directory on GDocs has gone up to 35 viewers from 2 in the 2 minutes since it's been e-mailed out
17:59 <+TuxedoJack> Fucking lol'd
17:59 < AnimalFarmPig> estranger: DNS  :P
17:59 <+TuxedoJack> Not as if we don't have Openfire running still
17:59 <+TuxedoJack> Or fucking IRC
17:59 < coderphive> Heresiarch You know what I did? Stick all of PCI shit in one isolated, island-like org that gets modified via CICD
17:59 < McDonaldsWiFi> TuxedoJack: hey ima need you to calm down
18:00 < shoh>  s/calm down/cum on my face
18:00 <+layer-eight> [SED shoh/McDonaldsWiFi] TuxedoJack: hey ima need you to cum on my face
18:00 < coderphive> Heresiarch Steam all logs to the log server, metrics to prom
18:00 < estranger> my guess is something related to an in memory cache used for looking up where to route connections
18:00 < McDonaldsWiFi> or clam down, depending on your preference
18:00 < AnimalFarmPig> estranger: seriously though, if I take a wild guess, it's some kind of network outage/problem that is manifesting in a subtle way
18:00 < McDonaldsWiFi> shoh: got em
18:00 < AnimalFarmPig> mmmm... interesting idea
18:00 < Heresiarch> coderphive: and that's damn viable. But removing dev access isn't a bad thing - if an app requires poking from a dev to function, there's a problem with said app - and the dev process in that org.
18:00 < DomLS3> s/em/a dick for my butt?
18:00 <+layer-eight> [SED DomLS3/Heresiarch] coderphive: and that's damn viable. But ra dick for my butt?oving dev access isn't a bad thing - if an app requires poking from a dev to function, there's a problem with said app - and the dev process in that org.
18:00 < DomLS3> uh
18:00 < coderphive> Heresiarch Sure, it's a path - BUT does it need to be a mandated path?
18:00 < shoh> rekt
18:01 < coderphive> Heresiarch I say no
18:01 < shoh> s/s/em/a dick for my butt?/a dick in my butt?
18:01 < coderphive> in b4 regex
18:01 < Heresiarch> coderphive: then the world is fortunate that your opinion does not control. :)
18:01 < DomLS3> layer-eight is garbage
18:01 <@killdash9> and that's damn viable. But ra dick for my butt?
18:01 < shoh> s/regex/xeger
18:01 <+layer-eight> [SED shoh/coderphive] in b4 xeger
18:01 < coderphive> ooo
18:01 <+TuxedoJack> Fuck's sake. Can we just remove that feature from the fucking bot
18:01 < estranger> AnimalFarmPig, i hope they do a post mortem
18:01 < shoh> s/r*/x
18:01 < AnimalFarmPig> estranger: yeah, I'm hoping they will as well
18:02 < shoh> s/feature from the fucking bot/dick from my ass
18:02 <+layer-eight> [SED shoh/TuxedoJack] Fuck's sake. Can we just remove that dick from my ass
18:02 < AnimalFarmPig> slack is generally pretty good about corporate communications, so I would expect them to
18:02 < estranger> AnimalFarmPig, esp if its a weird major failure.. we all can learn from it
18:02 < coderphive> This is an extensive outage and not related to AWS
18:02 < coderphive> so it'll be interesting
18:02 < estranger> yeah
18:02 < coderphive> All of our corporate communications are down
18:02 < AnimalFarmPig> what does slack run on? self hosted?
18:02 < coderphive> :|
18:03 < coderphive> AnimalFarmPig AWS
18:03 <@killdash9> Slack is "in the cloud"
18:03 <@killdash9> s/the could/my butt
18:03 < shoh> lol
18:03 < AnimalFarmPig> I see
18:03 < shoh> it only likes me
18:03 <@killdash9> s/the cloud/my butt
18:03 <+layer-eight> [SED killdash9] Slack is "in my butt"
18:03 < DomLS3> TuxedoJack: if we removed that feature from the bot, there would be no need for the bot because that's all it gets used for lol
18:03 < coderphive> killdash9 newb
18:03 < estranger> yeah they are at least AWS, dunno if any others
18:03 < estranger> https://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/slack/
18:03 <+layer-eight> * estranger β†’  Slack Case Study – Amazon Web Services (AWS)
18:03 < coderphive> estranger afaik they're not
18:04 <@killdash9> we aren't having AWS issues so it's something in their stack
18:04 < estranger> killdash9, yeah.. i factored that into my guess
18:04 < coderphive> It also depends on their regions/AZ's
18:05 < coderphive> but yeah, afaik there's no AWS issues today
18:05 < Heresiarch> I'd be very surprised if they were in a single region.
18:05 < coderphive> Really the thing to keep an eye on is global service issues
18:05 < coderphive> That's usually where failure occurs for an org that size
18:05 < Heresiarch> or just watch us-east-1. XD
18:05 < coderphive> s/us-east-1/us-tirefire-1
18:05 <+layer-eight> [SED coderphive/Heresiarch] or just watch us-tirefire-1. XD
18:06 < coderphive> There I did one
18:06 <@killdash9> I think Slack's latest GIF/emoji integration went sideways
18:06 < estranger> Heresiarch, im so surprised how many large companies ARE single region whenever we see a region failure
18:06 < coderphive> Multi-region isn't easy
18:06 < Popzi> probably cheaper  too
18:06 < Heresiarch> true
18:06 < coderphive> It usually involve refactoring your app
18:07 < estranger> nope
18:07 < coderphive> esp if you're multi-tenant
18:07 < estranger> its not easy, and its not cheap
18:07 < Heresiarch> latest slack status: "We're getting closer to a solution, but we aren't out of the woods yet."
18:07 < coderphive> probably DB outage
18:07 < coderphive> If they can measure success like that
18:07 < Heresiarch> good bet
18:08 < coderphive> "all ur slax are gone. srry"
18:08 < Heresiarch> it'll be interesting to read the post-mortem on this one.
18:08 < coderphive> Also, this is lol given I sent a message to them asking them to be price competitive with Google Apps
18:08 < coderphive> "Slack is far superior in features and stability"
18:08 < coderphive> okay
18:08 < AnimalFarmPig> estranger: After looking at their architecture diagram, I'm changing my wild guess. Multi-master MySQL replication broke somehow (network interruption) and they're having trouble bringing it back online.
18:09 < coderphive> AnimalFarmPig I'm thinking full restoration is occurring right now
18:09 < coderphive> They attempted partial which failed
18:09 < AnimalFarmPig> ^
18:09 < AnimalFarmPig> yep, they attempted something, it failed
18:09  * coderphive rolls the dice
18:09 < AnimalFarmPig> each step taking more time
18:10 < coderphive> I had a crazy SRE-SE that worked with me that during DB outages would launch a full restoration cluster immediately and put into prod whichever came up first
18:10 < estranger> im connected right now though... im not sure how a shared mysql db restore works though
18:10 < estranger> could my shard be restored and yours not, I guess
18:10 < coderphive> His attitude was "the difference between dollars and cents don't matter at that point"
18:10 < AnimalFarmPig> according to their architecture diagram, they're doing multimaster replication across two AZ's. If they've followed the galera guidelines of creating a segment for each AZ, then they run the risk of split brain
18:10 < AnimalFarmPig> needs to be odd number
18:11 < AnimalFarmPig> meeting, bbl
18:11 < shoh> s/meeting/meating
18:11 < coderphive> I think that's easy to control with orchestration though
18:11 <+layer-eight> [SED shoh/AnimalFarmPig] meating, bbl
18:11 < coderphive> unless some newb launched the recovery process
18:11 < dragonfleas> um
18:11 < dragonfleas> my boss wants me to build an advanced report in SQL to crystal reports
18:12 < dragonfleas> i don't know how to fucking do that
18:12 < shoh> I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
18:12 < dragonfleas> what should i do
18:12 < shoh> Tell them
18:12 < shoh> "I don't know how to do that"
18:12 < dragonfleas> I did but he said "i'm sure you won't have a problem learning"
18:12 < shoh> then research it
18:12 < shoh> and crack on fam
18:12 < abakedapplepie> ^
18:12 < dragonfleas> where do i start learning SQL
18:12 < shoh> and if you have problems
18:12 < shoh> you go
18:12 < shoh> "I told you, I don't know how to do this"
18:13 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: https://www.google.com/search?q=sql+tutorial+microsoft
18:13 <+layer-eight> * Heresiarch β†’  sql tutorial microsoft - Google Search
18:13 < shoh> s/start learning sql/google
18:13 < abakedapplepie> wew crystal reports
18:13 < abakedapplepie> that was one of my first tasks when i became a sysadmin
18:13 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: let him know that you can't provide a timeframe in which this will be done, because you have to learn all of this.
18:13 < node808> that thing needs to die
18:13 < node808> crystal
18:13 < coderphive> s/What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX./ I like men.
18:13 <+layer-eight> [SED coderphive/shoh] I'd just like to interject for a moment. I like men.
18:14 < abakedapplepie> 1000% what Heresiarch
18:14 < abakedapplepie> especially if youre coming from 0 sql knowledge
18:14 < abakedapplepie> temper expectations
18:14 < abakedapplepie> find out if theres a deadline
18:14 < dragonfleas> coderphive, i didn't know you were gay
18:15 < coderphive> yes
18:15 < abakedapplepie> when i was thrown at crystal reports, the best thing for me was looking at existing reports that worked
18:15 < coderphive> This is 2018
18:15 < coderphive> bigot
18:15 < technonerd> I'm only gay during pride month
18:15 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
18:15 < McDonaldsWiFi> call me gay again and ill suck your dick
18:15 < shoh> gay
18:15 < McDonaldsWiFi> ;>
18:16 < McDonaldsWiFi> i rememebr you
18:16 < McDonaldsWiFi> you're the evil troll
18:16 < McDonaldsWiFi> the was unbant a few months ago
18:16 < McDonaldsWiFi> right?
18:16 < McDonaldsWiFi> EVIL TROLL
18:16 < abakedapplepie> hes what your mother would call "a bad influence
18:16 < shoh> I was never bant
18:16 < technonerd> I suck a hobos dick ever know and then to check to. Make sure I'm not gay
18:16 < McDonaldsWiFi> did you rage quit or something
18:16 < McDonaldsWiFi> there's another one that came back around the same time as you
18:16 < Sousapro> GNU\Linux
18:16 < McDonaldsWiFi> the other one was especially annoying
18:16 < McDonaldsWiFi> ;;P
18:16 < Sousapro> let's switch to Hurd
18:16 < Sousapro> that's gotta be stable by now
18:17 < technonerd> Prod to plan9
18:17 < McDonaldsWiFi> can we go back to BBS
18:17  * Sousapro pulls out his pentium 3 that's no longer going to be supported by Windows 7
18:17 < Sousapro> 15 years isn't enough use!
18:17 < estranger> my old car license plate was SYSOP.. i miss BBSs
18:17  * Sousapro rummages around for an old 80286
18:17 < shoh> nah, I never rage quit
18:18 < shoh> I legit just forget about this place
18:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> how could you
18:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> you monster
18:18 <+A-KO> holy shit cybersecurity people are paranoid idiots lol
18:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> i bet you use the crushed ice setting on your fridge instead of cubed
18:18 < shoh> my fridge doesn't make ice
18:18 < shoh> so
18:18 < shoh> neither?
18:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> pleb
18:18 < Sousapro> A-KO: they teach buzzword bingo in the cybersecurity programs most places
18:18 < shoh> who the fuck wants to use fridge ice
18:18 < Sousapro> A-KO: they have no idea how to actually use or administer anything
18:18 < shoh> I just buy ice in bags
18:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> mostly cause its easy
18:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> fuck bagged ice
18:19 < shoh> fuck your mum cunt
18:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> that's mean
18:19 < Sousapro>  that causes shrinkage, McDonaldsWiFi
18:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> eww you're english
18:19 < Sousapro> ask me how I know
18:19 < shoh> keeps her keen
18:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> Sousapro ;O
18:19 < grumplestiltzkin> I dislike the word/prefix cyber these days
18:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> grumplestiltzkin: wanna cyber?
18:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> huehuehue
18:19 < Sousapro> A/S/L
18:19 < grumplestiltzkin> jajajajaja
18:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> oh fuck
18:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> BR? BR? BR
18:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> ?
18:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> SWE?
18:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> SWE?
18:20 < Maarten> Germany is oooout! :D
18:20 < estranger> Cyberdyne
18:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> i miss the early 2000's internet
18:20 < Maarten> Cybermonday is.... online fuck monday? :)
18:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> i wish I could go back... and invest in apple
18:20 < DrGibby|> I know this is a long shot, and I've asked in #cisco, but does *anyone* have experience with Service Modules?
18:20 < estranger> holy shit there is a real company named Cyberdyne now that makes exoskeletons? are we sure that is a good idea?
18:20 < grumplestiltzkin> estranger: good point.  is cyberdyne realy google, facebook, or amazon?
18:21 < estranger> https://www.cyberdyne.jp/english/products/HAL/index.html ... what the hell
18:21 <+layer-eight> * estranger →  The world's first cyborg-type robot "HAL�" - CYBERDYNE
18:22 < estranger> is this a real thing... crazy japs
18:22 < grumplestiltzkin> 85% sure thats a gag
18:23 < estranger> https://www.insideedition.com/paralyzed-patients-learning-walk-again-using-robotic-exoskeleton-41714
18:23 <+layer-eight> * estranger β†’  Paralyzed Patients Learning to Walk Again Using Robotic Exoskeleton | Inside Edition
18:23 < grumplestiltzkin> the company is the name of a company from a movie.  and their bg product is a main 'character' from another movie
18:23 < estranger> is inside edition a real outlet?
18:23 <+TuxedoJack> And now 7 or 8 major clients are reporting fucking SSL errors on our hosted Exchange cluster
18:23 <+TuxedoJack> God fucking dammit
18:23 <+TuxedoJack> AND THE CONNECTWISE E-MAIL CONNECTOR IS FUCKED
18:24 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol can't even get your tickets
18:24 <+TuxedoJack> This just gets better and better
18:24 < grumplestiltzkin> their website is fucky too.   I scrolled down, and it morphed into a different paage that doesnt scroll now
18:24 < estranger> grumplestiltzkin, the website is terrible
18:25 < grumplestiltzkin> the product looks more like suburban commando than terminator
18:25 < estranger> grumplestiltzkin, gotta start somewhere :)
18:25 <+TuxedoJack> And that's fucking why
18:25 < grumplestiltzkin> holy fuckballs.
18:25 < grumplestiltzkin> no really
18:26 < grumplestiltzkin> https://www.cyberdyne.jp/english/products/HAL/index.html  scroll down.
18:26 <+layer-eight> * grumplestiltzkin →  estranger → The world's first cyborg-type robot "HAL�" - CYBERDYNE
18:26 < ekaj_> some days ya just hate computers
18:26 <+TuxedoJack> >I’ve swapped it back to the regular SSL certificate.  The new wildcard certificate is fucking with things
18:26 <+TuxedoJack> FUCKING GODDAMMIT, CTO
18:26 < grumplestiltzkin> when you reach the part with the diagram of a body, it *LOCKS* the scrolling until you go thtough their slideshow
18:27 < estranger> you can scroll further?
18:27 < estranger> oh wow it does ater you click
18:27 < grumplestiltzkin> yeah, after you do their slideshow, it turns back into a normal page
18:27 < grumplestiltzkin> GHEYTARDED
18:27 <+ktechmidas> Apparently Apple reviews are region specific...
18:27 < grumplestiltzkin> how in teh world did that shit ever get approved
18:28 < estranger> grumplestiltzkin, too busy making human ending robots than web design for a human
18:28 <+ktechmidas> Thx edoJack: use letsencrypt? 
18:28 <+ktechmidas> God damnit...
18:28 <+ktechmidas> TuxedoJack:
18:28 <+ktechmidas> There we go
18:31 <+TuxedoJack> And now Slack's _website_ is timing out
18:31 <+TuxedoJack> Fucking amazing job
18:32 < vinrock> they should shop... slacking
18:32 < vinrock> YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
18:32 < grumplestiltzkin> I mean - don't get me wrong.  some 'suburban commando' hulkster power armor would be pretty badass
18:32 < vinrock> ah damn i fucked up the spelling
18:32 <+ktechmidas> Not sure how Slack even caught on with it’s name
18:32 < corn266> petition to kick vinrock
18:32 < grumplestiltzkin> or.. more like power assist, not armor
18:32 < Heresiarch> ktechmidas: gifs and webhooks.
18:32 <+ktechmidas> I mean if I was a manager and saw that name as a real time chat service I’d nope straight out
18:32 <+ktechmidas> IRC can do that too... :(
18:33 <+ktechmidas> I had some really nice IRC bots and hooks back in the days before Slack was a thing
18:33 <+ktechmidas> Even tried packaging them up and selling them but it never took off
18:33 <+ktechmidas> Don’t think I even made a single sale
18:34 <+ktechmidas> Perhaps gifs were the answer....
18:34 < rpifan> rawr
18:34 < rpifan> hello ktechmidas still chinesse and homeless
18:34 < nthdevops> Hopefully everyone's day is going well
18:35 <+ktechmidas> Pretty much, get my passport back tomorrow
18:35 <+ktechmidas> Let’s see if I can get home
18:35 < nthdevops> Going somewhere?
18:35 < vinrock> did you get caught smuggling butt drugs
18:35 <+ktechmidas> Ah I got stuck...long story
18:35 < rpifan> cant get home with your emergency brit one?
18:35 <+ktechmidas> Yeah but I want to go to China
18:35 < rpifan> nthdevops, what kind of dev do you ops
18:35 < dragonfleas> DOES ANYBODY WANT CAWFEE? I JUST MADE A FRESH PAWT OF CAWFEE
18:35 < rpifan> ill take some
18:35 <+ktechmidas> Britain isn’t really helpful
18:35 < rpifan> go back home and try again
18:36 <+ktechmidas> Nah it’s fine, I should get a visa tomorrow
18:36 < corn266> dragonfleas, please
18:36 <+ktechmidas> Then should be able to cross into Shenzhen
18:36 < rpifan> u must have a lot of money to survive this
18:36 <+ktechmidas> Going home costs even more
18:36 <+ktechmidas> And I’m in possibly the smallest room in Hong Kong
18:36 <+ktechmidas> Basically a bed and a shower
18:37 <+ktechmidas> Had to dip into my emergency savings to even afford that :D
18:37 < grumplestiltzkin> how.... wry is this ..    TLDs -  .store and .shop are both things
18:37 < rpifan> hmm
18:37 < nthdevops> Has anyone here worked with GPFS
18:37 < SynMonger> and now I want poop.store
18:38 < nthdevops> .store/.shop probably used by tons of little places to have their own little etsy type craft store for stickers etc
18:38 < rpifan> this is why im glad i have 3 different passport
18:38 <+ktechmidas> Yeah I need to get on that
18:39 <+ktechmidas> I’m only a few years away from becoming a permanent resident in China anyway
18:40 < rpifan> hmm
18:40 < rpifan> then u lose other citizneships
18:40 <+ktechmidas> Nah
18:40 <+ktechmidas> Permanent resident, not citizen
18:40 < nthdevops> You don't necessarily lose citizenships
18:40 <+ktechmidas> But at least they would let me back in even without my passport
18:40 < nthdevops> They typically just don't respect/acknowledge it
18:40 < nthdevops> In the case of the US you can get other citizenships they just don't acknowledge dual citizenship
18:41 <+ktechmidas> China actually makes you give up any citizenship
18:41 < nthdevops> I don't think they can check, can they? (for most)
18:41 <+ktechmidas> I wouldn’t ever trade my British passport for theirs anyway
18:42 <+ktechmidas> The British one is a lot more powerful
18:42 < vinrock> i had a meeting with a british gril yesterday and china is one of her territories
18:42 < nthdevops> There's a site ranking them actually https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php
18:42 <+layer-eight> * nthdevops β†’  Global Passport Power Rank | The Passport Index 2018
18:42 < vinrock> she said its a huge pain in the ass getting anything done there
18:42 <+ktechmidas> They can’t...but if they ever find out or if you’re leaving on a foreign passport they’ll cancel your Chinese citizenship
18:42 < vinrock> bcuz the important people never speak english so you wind up with some low level employee translating
18:43 < vinrock> bossman talks for 20 minutes and the translator says like, one sentence.
18:43 <+ktechmidas> Yeah pretty much
18:43 < nthdevops> China is pretty down the list passport wise
18:43 < nthdevops> Right next to Kenya
18:43 <+giant_it_burrit> USA USA
18:43 <+ktechmidas> Yup...that’s why I’m here
18:43 <+ktechmidas> And my girlfriend isn’t in the UK
18:43 < vinrock> kenyaaaaaaaaa
18:43 < vinrock> where the giraffes areeee
18:43 <+giant_it_burrit> bless the rains
18:43 < vinrock> and the zebraaaaaa
18:45 < nthdevops> Does anyone work w/ IBM GPFS
18:46 < nthdevops> IIRC My brother liked it in Shenzen, said it was pretty cheap
18:46 < nthdevops> But he left for sweden
18:47 <+ktechmidas> Yeah I would if I could
18:48 < nthdevops> What are you there for
18:48 <+ktechmidas> My girlfriend is Chinese
18:48 <+ktechmidas> Even married...almost impossible to get her into the UK
18:48 <+ktechmidas> And with brexit I have no idea how it’ll look after March
18:49 < nthdevops> Really?
18:49 < nthdevops> Might be easier for you to become a US citizen
18:49 < nthdevops> and then both just live here lol
18:49 < nthdevops> since you're skilled tech it wouldn't even take long if you get a contract w/ a big comp
18:49 <+ktechmidas> Hah, that’s a route we were looking at
18:49 < nthdevops> The time it takes depends on who is sponsoring you though basically
18:49 < nthdevops> Could be anywhere from 2-7 years
18:49 <+ktechmidas> My girlfriend has been taught a lot of shit about the US though
18:50 <+ktechmidas> That I have to undo
18:50 < nthdevops> Bad things?
18:50 <+ktechmidas> Yeah
18:50 < nthdevops> I mean... just let her see for herself lol
18:50 <+ktechmidas> China basically teaches everyone the world is shit
18:50 < abakedapplepie> theyre not wrong
18:51 <+ktechmidas> But they also teach that China is a rising superpower
18:51 < nthdevops> That's also not wrong though
18:51 < abakedapplepie> also not wrong
18:51 < abakedapplepie> lol
18:51 < nthdevops> The problem is, China is included in the first statement
18:51 <+ktechmidas> Hah...but to pass your exams you have to write all the good China and the party do
18:51 < nthdevops> On top of their people being shitty
18:51 < abakedapplepie> i mean everything about china is a bubble right now, so we'll see in 25 years, but china is poised to do things
18:52 <+ktechmidas> Oh yeah...but everything is just so corrupt
18:52 < SynMonger> just like everywhere else
18:52 < corn266> but government sanctioned video games about tazing corrupted officials
18:52 <+ktechmidas> And the wages for locals are terrible
18:53 <+ktechmidas> My girlfriend doesn’t work
18:53 <+ktechmidas> Because she could earn 1/10 of what I do for double the work
18:53 <+ktechmidas> So she’s working on starting a business, but still
18:53 < nthdevops> That's communism for you
18:54 < corn266> No nthdevops I'm sure dear leader lives in the same sized apartment as the common folk
18:54 < nthdevops> Communism promises equality for all, which is kind of true, everyone's equally poor
18:54 < nthdevops> (cept the select few)
18:54 < nthdevops> The only difference is that hard work doesn't really get you anywhere 99% of the time
18:54 < zerocool> is owncloud or nextcloud the better cloud
18:54 < nthdevops> And people power trip all the timet oo
18:54 <+ktechmidas> It’s not even communist anymore tbh
18:54 < nthdevops> A DOOR guard made my brother shave so he'd match his id picture
18:54 <+ktechmidas> It’s more state capitalism
18:54 < rpifan> im a scoialist
18:54 < rpifan> but i recognize
18:54 < rpifan> the failure of most socialist states
18:55 < nthdevops> You can't say it's not communist anymore, the lasting effects
18:55 < nthdevops> Will probably remain for decades
18:55 < rpifan> not gonna defend stuipidity
18:55 < nthdevops> You don't just "stop" being communist "overnight"
18:56 < Stoob> ""
18:56 <+ktechmidas> It’s not been communist since the 70’s...and it’s always been very authoritarian...the children look after the parents here because there is no pension, there is no public funds for people to rely on
18:56 < nthdevops> The mindset of the past generation + behaviors kinda carried on though is my point
18:57 < ebol4> can we keep the politics discussions in here limited to subjects people actually know anything about
18:57 <+ktechmidas> Oh for sure...but those behaviours were just not giving a crap about anyone because otherwise you might starve....
18:57 <+ktechmidas> Hahaha
18:57 < nthdevops> We're not really getting into details, but yea I agree w/ what you just said
19:00 < rpifan> i agree workers of the world must unite
19:01 < nthdevops> Lol by the time we get every country onboard/get our collective shit together automation will have basically eliminated the need for 98%+ of our workforce
19:02 < rpifan> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwules_Museum
19:02 <+layer-eight> * rpifan β†’  Schwules Museum - Wikipedia
19:02 < nthdevops> All that's left is hobby/elective/voluntary work
19:02 < SynMonger> all that's left are the rich and the dead
19:02 < nthdevops> That's a possibility but very unlikely
19:04 < SynMonger> more likely than 6 billion idle people consuming the rest of the planet's resources... the newly sentient AI won't have it
19:05 <+TuxedoJack> Honestly, if birth control was made mandatory and breeding required a license, the only thing we'd have to worry about is an explosion of STDs
19:05 <+TuxedoJack> Not overpopulation
19:06 <+TuxedoJack> And hey, with the STDs, enough people would die off that overpopulation wouldn't be a problem!
19:06 < nthdevops> There's no shortage of resources atm
19:06 < nthdevops> It's logistics
19:06 < rpifan> so 56k really the limit for analogue modems
19:06 < rpifan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckc6XSSh52w&feature=youtu.be
19:06 <+TuxedoJack> Thanks, XDR-and-TDR gonorrhea!
19:06 <+layer-eight> * rpifan β†’  YouTube β†’ ALL Old Modem Sounds (300 baud to 56K) β†’ ⚘ 86,310 ↑ 1,061 ↓ 13 ✍ 196
19:06 < nthdevops> What do you mean rpi
19:06 < nthdevops> That's just the top speed through that method, before better tech was developed
19:06 < nthdevops> We can probably squeeze more out
19:07 < nthdevops> It was just not an avenue worth pursuing for diminishing returns
19:07 < rpifan> but what is the limitant for the technology, whats the max theortically possible
19:09 <@JollyRgrs> anyone else having issues with interwebs today?
19:09 < nthdevops> Just slack down earlier
19:09 < nthdevops> Nothing else
19:09 <+ktechmidas> I think felda mentioned issues with the wider internet earlier on
19:10 < felda> yes
19:10 < nthdevops> @rpifan seems like it's somewhere near 53.3 kbit due to fcc regulation
19:10 < abakedapplepie> MAH TOOBS
19:10 <@JollyRgrs> yeah, i heard slack and dell and others were issuing
19:10 < felda> the problem is a lot of people aren't using pfsense
19:10 <@JollyRgrs> my wife is complaining about slowness at the house (we are using pfsense)
19:10 <@JollyRgrs> and i'm dropping audio on skype meeting due to network connection quality
19:10 < hxcsp> JollyRgrs: well thats your problem
19:10 < hxcsp> pfsense
19:10 < hxcsp> obv
19:10 < hxcsp> felda: fix it
19:10 <@JollyRgrs> obvis
19:10 < felda> just reboot duh
19:10 < hxcsp> how many times?
19:11  * JollyRgrs puts in a ticket at felda.io
19:11 < felda> 3 is good
19:11 < hxcsp> JollyRgrs: did you see playground ltm
19:12 < rpifan> but what about whats the limits based on physics
19:12 <@JollyRgrs> read about it
19:12 <@JollyRgrs> not been in it yet though
19:12 < hxcsp> well it just came out today
19:12 < shoh> s/it yet though/ in my ass
19:12 <+layer-eight> [SED shoh/JollyRgrs] not been in in my ass
19:12 <@JollyRgrs> what's that site that used to visualize network attacks over the internet?
19:12 < hxcsp> but itll be good practice
19:12 < shoh> FUCK YOU JollyRgrs
19:12 < hxcsp> uh
19:12 < nthdevops> DDOS maps or something
19:12 < nthdevops> http://www.digitalattackmap.com/ ?
19:12 < hxcsp> the site with the honeypots
19:12 <+layer-eight> * nthdevops β†’  Digital Attack Map
19:12 < hxcsp> norse
19:13 <@JollyRgrs> shoh: not my fault you can't sed
19:13 <@JollyRgrs> sed gud son
19:13 <@JollyRgrs> s/FUCK YOU/I love you,/
19:13 <+layer-eight> [SED JollyRgrs/shoh] I love you, JollyRgrs
19:13 <@JollyRgrs> thanks
19:13 <@JollyRgrs> yeah, norse was the one i remembered
19:13 < abakedapplepie> http://map.norsecorp.com/
19:13 < hxcsp> they took it down
19:13 < abakedapplepie> wait really
19:14 < hxcsp> pretty sure
19:14 < abakedapplepie> damn its not loading
19:14 < abakedapplepie> thats the one i always saw
19:14 < abakedapplepie> oh there it goes
19:14 <@JollyRgrs> it looks pretty bad nthdevops... i'm not used to this map though.. is that normal traffic?
19:14 < abakedapplepie> there was a cloudflare error page for a sec
19:14 <@JollyRgrs> hxcsp: yeah, i thought they had, too
19:14 < hxcsp> i guess it is up
19:14 < abakedapplepie> its fuckered tho
19:14 < abakedapplepie> not loading correctly
19:14 < abakedapplepie> wonder if they are getting ddosed
19:14 < hxcsp> norse-corp.com
19:15 < abakedapplepie> This page (http://map.norsecorp.com/) is currently offline. However, because the site uses Cloudflare's Always Onlineβ„’ technology you can continue to surf a snapshot of the site. We will keep checking in the background and, as soon as the site comes back, you will automatically be served the live version. Always Onlineβ„’ is powered by Cloudflare | Hide this Alert
19:15 < hxcsp> http://www.norse-corp.com/map/  seems to load better
19:15 <+layer-eight> * hxcsp β†’  Norse - IPViking Live
19:15 < hxcsp> maybe not
19:15 < abakedapplepie> no data
19:16 < grumplestiltzkin> i like globalincidentmap.com . it's like a real-life version of plague,inc.
19:18 <@JollyRgrs> grumplestiltzkin: that's an interesting map
19:19 <@JollyRgrs> too bad they don't include cyber-terror
19:19 <+ktechmidas> How many countries can we take offline today
19:19 <+ktechmidas> That kind of thing?
19:19 < ebol4> it would be so easy for russia to take out the US's internet
19:19 <@JollyRgrs> ktechmidas: so the great firewall is protecting you, eh?
19:19 < grumplestiltzkin> JollyRgrs: but you can see how bad dengue is getting.   and the few boubonic outbreaks in teh US.
19:19 < ebol4> just like, get 5 people to infiltrate TWC or something
19:19 <+ktechmidas> Not right now, stuck in Hong Kong
19:19 <+ktechmidas> With free internet
19:19 <@JollyRgrs> ebol4: but then how would they get their money from malware?
19:20 <@JollyRgrs> no internet, no US monies coming in
19:20 < grumplestiltzkin> muny
19:20 < ebol4> JollyRgrs: while everyone is F5'ing facebook waiting for the internet to unbreak, you rob all the banks
19:20 < JFDkthx> whats broken?
19:20 < ebol4> is the zucc russian
19:20 <+ktechmidas> You could, I suppose, if you took out the US internet
19:20 < rpifan> i have german skype interviews everyday this week plus more lined up
19:20 < ebol4> that would be a twist
19:20 < rpifan> idk how its taking this much to get a job
19:21 <+ktechmidas> Then do a 51% attack on Bitcoin
19:21 <+ktechmidas> Since half it’s hashing power has just died
19:21 <@JollyRgrs> ebol4: lol
19:21 < grumplestiltzkin> ktechmidas: or cryptokitties
19:21 <+ktechmidas> That’s ETH I think?
19:21 < grumplestiltzkin> yeah
19:22 < JFDkthx> ugh
19:22 < JFDkthx> i can see he leds through he lcd panel
19:22 < JFDkthx> wtf
19:27 < technonerd> Stop over clocking your monitor
19:28 < grumplestiltzkin> that's a real thing
19:28 < grumplestiltzkin> for the refresh rate
19:28 < grumplestiltzkin> the microcenter branded laptops have it as na option
19:29 < nthdevops> Depends if it's encoded into EDID etc
19:29 < nthdevops> sometimes you have to add your own modeline and sometimes its pre-tested/"certified"
19:29 < nthdevops> On my laptop the dropdown already has 120hz as an option
19:32 < asimon> Can I ask a n00b sysadmin question
19:32 < asimon> How do you test your backups?
19:33 < nthdevops> In what sense
19:33 < asimon> Like do you take a backup and immediately attempt to restore from it?
19:33 < nthdevops> You could checksum them as you push them out
19:33 < nthdevops> Or check file integrities vs live snapshots
19:33 < nthdevops> I wouldn't restore a backup to test it
19:34 < mrghostman> restore a backup to your test env
19:34 < nthdevops> Just be careful the scope of the backups, if it includes configs for example then you'd want to use caution
19:35 < asimon> Makes sense. Why do you say you wouldn't restore to test it? I feel like that's the closest to a functional test as you're going to get
19:36 < nthdevops> It depends what type of data you have backed up
19:36 < nthdevops> Are they config/selective backups or full snapshots?
19:37 < asimon> Let's say just file level user document backups to start
19:37 < asimon> We also have our servers going on a different system but I personally know very little about how that's set up
19:39 < nthdevops> If it's something like that I'd restore to a test env, that should be np
19:39 < nthdevops> But you could also just run a job on a test bench to extract/restore and compare
19:39 < ThatOneRoadie> If they're full snapshots, make sure there's a test VM in the backup job
19:39 < ThatOneRoadie> then restore that whole VM
19:39 < ThatOneRoadie> if you have file-level backups, restore some useless file like a readme.md
19:40 < ThatOneRoadie> It's not a backup until you can restore from it
19:40 < ThatOneRoadie> if you can't restore from it, it's just a useless copy
19:41 < asimon> That's my thought as well - we have daily backups but I don't think we've ever tested them
19:41 <@JollyRgrs> ThatOneRoadie: oh no, it's still a backup... it just won't "back you up" when it hits the fan
19:41 < asimon> or at least I haven't in the year I've been here
19:41 < asimon> Thanks for the advice!
19:41 <@JollyRgrs> when backups become letdowns continues tonight at 11
19:41 < rpifan> nthdevops, r u the nth devops in ur company
19:42 < coderphive> git stash JollyRgrs
19:42 < coderphive> oops
19:42 <@JollyRgrs> i have a stach
19:42 <@JollyRgrs> and a goatee
19:42 < coderphive> you would
19:42 <@JollyRgrs> i do
19:42 < coderphive> I bet you ride a harley too
19:42 <@JollyRgrs> it looks good on my face
19:42 < DrGibby|> weirdos
19:42 <@JollyRgrs> i look bad w/o it
19:42 <@JollyRgrs> no motorized bikes here
19:42 < coderphive> I am actually bald
19:43 < coderphive> irl
19:43 <@JollyRgrs> i haven't ridden my mountain bike in a while
19:43 <@JollyRgrs> g4u
19:43  * JollyRgrs plays the sunscreen song for coderphive
19:43 < coderphive> D:
19:43 < DrGibby|> nothing like watching !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'s
19:43 < coderphive> I'm french okay
19:43  * coderphive braces
19:44 < khelpw> coderphive: do you just own the bald look, or are you clinging to 'balding'?
19:44 < ThatOneRoadie> Balding ftw
19:44 < DrGibby|> gotta own it
19:44 < DrGibby|> just shave it off
19:44 < DrGibby|> so nice
19:44 < ThatOneRoadie> ...that's not owning it
19:44 < ThatOneRoadie> lol
19:44 < coderphive> https://avatars2.githubusercontent.com/u/8207468?s=460&v=4
19:44 <+layer-eight> * coderphive β†’  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 20,089 bytes
19:44 < ThatOneRoadie> that's like today's reverse comb-over
19:44 < coderphive> u tell me bae
19:44 < khelpw> ^^ IMO just go all the way, nobody looks good balding
19:44 < khelpw> just keep that shit shaved close
19:45 < DrGibby|> unless you're 60, have a partner maybe kids, and don't give a shit
19:45 < DrGibby|> should be a comma after partner
19:45 < coderphive> ya dude
19:45 < khelpw> I'm in the opposite boat. I have hair longer than anyone I know. Longer than 99.9% of people I see.
19:45 < DrGibby|> also, hair needs to be gray
19:45 < ThatOneRoadie> I mean I'm <30 and balding pretty good
19:45 < coderphive> The bald life is so much more simple
19:45 < ThatOneRoadie> yay shit genetics
19:45 < DrGibby|> ThatOneRoadie: I started balding in highschool man
19:45 < coderphive> I have greys
19:45 < DrGibby|> I feel the pain
19:45 < coderphive> Mostly in my beard
19:46 < khelpw> My moms side - the men are all bald, my dads side they keep their hair and their color
19:46 < khelpw> I figure I might as well enjoy having hair as long as I can, and earlier this week it was 10 years since my last _real_ haircut
19:47 < DrGibby|> YOU'RE ONE OF *THOSE* PEOPLE
19:47 < khelpw> I used to joke that I'd cut it when I start having to keep track of it when I sit down to take a shit, but that point has long since come and gone and it has just never been inconvenient enough to get rid of it
19:47 < ThatOneRoadie> Nah I was fucked
19:47 < ThatOneRoadie> all the men on my dad's side are bald as can be
19:48 < ThatOneRoadie> and practically identical
19:48 < ThatOneRoadie> seriously, at my grandpa's last birthday party (first man on his side to survive past 80), we took a pic of me, my dad, and grandpa in suits
19:48 < ThatOneRoadie> it's me, me plus 25 years, and me plus 50 years
19:49 < ThatOneRoadie> and all the men on my mom's side are also bald
19:49 < ThatOneRoadie> oooooo getfuckedme
19:49 < ThatOneRoadie> sooooo*
19:49 < khelpw> Get a scalp tattoo
19:49 < khelpw> of hair
19:49 < abakedapplepie> do it
19:49 < dragonfleas> any florida admins in here?
19:50 < ThatOneRoadie> Nah I'll just pull an elon musk, make some awesome service I can sell for hundreds of millions, and get a stellar hair transplant
19:50 < dragonfleas> I'm going to florida next week and was wondering what cool stuff there is to do in orlando
19:50 < Hatsjoe> McDonaldsWiFi: I've always been here buddy, just lurking
19:50 < Hatsjoe> Been very busy with a big project at work
19:50 < ThatOneRoadie> cause Elon on the day he sold paypal was definitely heading towards bald
19:50 < Hatsjoe> No time for shenanigans
19:50 < ThatOneRoadie> but a few million buys some good bosleys
19:50 < grumplestiltzkin> just food for though - the amount of time it takes to take a shower/get ready is not insignificantly different between having long hair and 'zero maintenance' length hair (still wash it of course, but never have to do anything to 'style)
19:51 < DrGibby|> in other news, water is wet
19:51 < grumplestiltzkin> time is muny
19:51 < ThatOneRoadie> food is sustenance
19:52 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: tons of stuff in Orlando. Stay out of Downtown, and stay off of I4 as much as you can.
19:52 < Heresiarch> Any sensu users in here?
19:53 < javi404> OK, what does it mean when an old APC UPS is blinking the bottom LED on the battery charge status indicator?
19:53 < coderphive> Heresiarch former sensu user
19:53 < javi404> This is the first time I have seen this.
19:53 < Heresiarch> coderphive: how recently former?
19:53 < coderphive> About a year?
19:53 < grumplestiltzkin> javi404: if it's red, iirc that means your battery is deadish
19:53 < javi404> grumplestiltzkin: green
19:54 < javi404> actually shows charging in apcupsd / apcaccess status
19:54 < Heresiarch> mm. Maybe not. Trying to figure out the fuckery that sensu pulled with plugins and executable locations. Bastards seem to have moved the entire plugin structure somewhere between 1.2 and 1.4.
19:54 < javi404> grumplestiltzkin: brand new batteries,
19:54 < javi404> just finished up a 6.6 hour runtime calibration
19:54 < javi404> just was BATTV go from 24.5 to 24.6
19:55 < javi404> so at least it is charging which is good
19:55 < grumplestiltzkin> usually a blinky green means charging, and solid green means full charge
19:55 < javi404> need to dig up old manual, manufacture date of this beautiful full sinewave beast is 2001
19:55 < javi404> grumplestiltzkin: ah, that makes sense then.
19:55 <@JollyRgrs> 2001? dang
19:55 < javi404> it will be a long charge.
19:55 <@JollyRgrs> still working?
19:55 < javi404> JollyRgrs: yes sir
19:55 < grumplestiltzkin> wow - good on you for just replacing the battery
19:55 <@JollyRgrs> what brand?
19:55 < javi404> JollyRgrs: working great, APC Su1400
19:56 < javi404> JollyRgrs: I got it for 20 bucks like 10 years ago
19:56 <@JollyRgrs> nice
19:56 < javi404> with dead batts
19:56 <@JollyRgrs> most of the ones i have that died, the transformer seems shot from what minimal EE expertise i have
19:56 < javi404> JollyRgrs: using 2x 80AH AGM batteries I got a nice deal on from pepboys
19:56 <@JollyRgrs> lol
19:56 < javi404> JollyRgrs: with a 17% load, calibration ran for 6.6 hours
19:56 < javi404> i slept right through it
19:56 < javi404> haha
19:56 <@JollyRgrs> 17% load on su1400?
19:57 <@JollyRgrs> is that running your router?
19:57 < javi404> JollyRgrs: that was just test
19:57 <@JollyRgrs> (and nothing elsE)
19:57 < javi404> main 48 port switch, 12 bay NAS
19:57 < javi404> well, not NAS but drives for my nas
19:57 < javi404> and will be adding more
19:57 < javi404> I just wanted to do the calibration to see what runtime would be
19:58 < javi404> but will be adding the rest of my gear to that soon
19:58 < javi404> JollyRgrs: not gonna get caught up with some hurricane sandy type 5 day outage like before
19:58 < javi404> I'm prepaired now
20:01 <@JollyRgrs> anyone know how, in mobaxterm, to underline URLs?
20:02 < gnupluslinux> "Computer, make mobaxterm underline URLs"
20:02 <@JollyRgrs> nvm, still doesn't matter... it doesn't make urls clicky if inside tmux/screen session
20:04 < grumplestiltzkin> gnupluslinux: speak clearly into the mouse
20:04 < rpifan> sigh
20:04 < rpifan> ups and amazon
20:04 < rpifan> again they fucked up my delivery
20:04 < rpifan> last time i had to call jamica
20:04 < rpifan> t get my money back
20:05 < gnupluslinux> grumplestiltzkin, i tried setting up kalliope the other week
20:05 < gnupluslinux> i am... unimpressed with its recognition
20:05 < gnupluslinux> not sure if it was my mic or not but speak clearly into the mouse was def what it felt like
20:05 < grumplestiltzkin> sensiblechuckle.gif
20:07 < AnimalFarmPig> man, Jamaican call center sounds like a great idea. The island accent and laid back attitude of the staff would probably work magic when dealing with frustrated customers
20:08 < AnimalFarmPig> "I need you to unplug the router, mon. Everything ayrie?"
20:08 < grumplestiltzkin> this is the only jamaican item on amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Caribbean-Dreams-Jamaican-Cock-Ounce/dp/B079NT1WNN/
20:08 < grumplestiltzkin> its soup
20:08 < gnupluslinux> evryting ayrie?
20:08 < rpifan> well
20:08 < rpifan> they were in fact in jamaica
20:08 < grumplestiltzkin> also it's a great gag gift
20:09 < rpifan> idk why amazon has stuff there
20:09 < rpifan> but they do
20:09 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, looks like an awesome gag gift
20:09 < AnimalFarmPig> or for like white elephant exchanges
20:09 < AnimalFarmPig> "10 pack of cock soup"
20:09 < grumplestiltzkin> when like 2 or 3 just isnt enough
20:10 < javi404> rpifan: how the fuck?
20:10 < AnimalFarmPig> "The taste of a dozen cocks in your mouth"
20:10 < rpifan> yes i had to call an aamzon call center in jamaica after 3 days of calling everywhere to get my money back
20:10 < grumplestiltzkin> the soup is my #2 favorite gag gift.   this is #1: https://www.skdtac.com/skd-bag-of-dicks-p/skd.808.htm    a little more expensive, but totally worth it if you cna see the recipient open it
20:10 <+layer-eight> * grumplestiltzkin β†’  SKD Bag of Dicks
20:10 < javi404> grumplestiltzkin: nothing like a good cock soup on a hot summer day
20:11 < javi404> rpifan: how did they fuck up your order?
20:12 < AnimalFarmPig> grumplestiltzkin: Too bad the bag of dicks isn't edible.
20:14 < grumplestiltzkin> yeah - OH, a buddy who I sent a bag of dicks to , he took that bag of dicks, and continued to regift them at opportune times.   I think he hid one in an air duct at the place he was working at the time, like a time capsule.  So at some unknown point in the future, it will be found, and cause all kinds of stress for someone
20:16 < rpifan> thye never delivered it but they said they did
20:16 < javi404> grumplestiltzkin: stress? or laughter and confusion?
20:16 < grumplestiltzkin> rpifan: is it possible it was stolen from your porch, or delivered to a neighbor?
20:16 < grumplestiltzkin> javi404: or all of the above
20:16 < javi404> grumplestiltzkin: he should mail the bag of dicks to other employees in the office.
20:17 < javi404> rpifan: I had to put "UPS STORE" in the "security gate code" section of my address to make sure my packages weren't left in the lobby of the neighboring apt building.
20:17 < javi404> worked like a charm
20:18 < rpifan> loool
20:18 < coderphive> Alright guys, I'm ready to come clean
20:18 < coderphive> I'm actually a nano user
20:19 < bmurt> hmm
20:19 < rpifan> nice
20:19 < bmurt> cryptic1: anyone ever tell you how beautiful you look dressed up as a woman? i loved how you tore up that runaway on drag night
20:20 < coderphive> o spicey
20:20 <@cryptic1> O_O
20:20 <@cryptic1> dear god
20:20 <@cryptic1> shoh, save me
20:20 <@cryptic1> its dirty bmurt
20:21 < coderphive> cryptic1 pronouns?
20:21 < felda> cryptic1 If I have +v I can save you from bmurt
20:21 < shoh> s/pronouns/mental illness
20:21 <+layer-eight> [SED shoh/coderphive] cryptic1 mental illness?
20:21 < bmurt> pfft
20:21 <@cryptic1> haha
20:21 < bmurt> you don't need saving, you need healing
20:21 <@cryptic1> bmurt, back to work
20:21 < bmurt> i'm unsure why my +v isn't working unless it's tied to ip
20:21 < shoh> bmurt u r gay
20:21 < coderphive> s/healing/jesus
20:21 <+layer-eight> [SED coderphive/bmurt] you don't need saving, you need jesus
20:21 < bmurt> this is true shoh
20:22 < shoh> :-)
20:22 < shoh> bmurt u r straight
20:22 < shoh> LOL
20:22 <@cryptic1> shoh took your v
20:22 < SynMonger> who do you think does the saving?
20:22 < shoh> giv me +v
20:22 < coderphive> cryptic1 Hatter might be your champion
20:22 <+shoh> good
20:22 <+shoh> almost posted another copypasta
20:22 < bmurt> you already knew that though from the copious amounts of anal sex we've had and watched together on our netflix and chill nights, shoh
20:22 <+shoh> I don't have netflix
20:22 <+shoh> amazon prime
20:22 <@cryptic1> O_o
20:22 < bmurt> you were over my house dipshit in my car bed
20:23 < bmurt> i have netflix
20:23 <+shoh> Dicks are so cute omg(⁄ ⁄‒⁄ω⁄‒⁄ ⁄)⁄ when you hold one in your hand and it starts twitching its like its nuzzling you(/Ο‰οΌΌ) or when they perk up and look at you like" owo nya? :3c" hehe ~ penis-kun is happy to see me!!οΌˆοΌΎγƒ―οΌΎοΌ‰
20:23 < bmurt> p.s. why da fuck did shoh take my +v
20:23 < bmurt> what a dickbag
20:23 < bmurt> :(
20:23 <+shoh> :(
20:23 < bmurt> cryptic1: i still hate you
20:23 < bmurt> shoh: i hate you less than i hate cryptic1
20:23 < coderphive> sounds like a pyramid scheme
20:24 < coderphive> or a triangular relationship where bmurt is the bottom bitch
20:24 < coderphive> :|
20:25 < bmurt> more of a sideways slut coderphive
20:25 < coderphive> that makes sense
20:26  * bmurt needs to test the +v now
20:26 < coderphive> dang
20:26 < bmurt> ugh. user error
20:26 < coderphive> only temp +v
20:26 < bmurt> or irc lag
20:26 < bmurt> maybe services are down :/
20:27 < coderphive>  /tmp/+v/bmurt
20:29 < grumplestiltzkin> you don't even have netflix, do you?
20:32 <@cryptic1> we better test it
20:32 <@cryptic1> hrmmm
20:32 <@cryptic1> still not working eh
20:32 <@cryptic1> test again?
20:32 <@cryptic1> ooooooooooooooook
20:33 < estranger> i dont think it worked
20:33 < estranger> fix yer shit
20:34 <@cryptic1> seems broken
20:34  * cryptic1 blames freenode
20:34 < coderphive> I'm going to contribute code to FreeNode's services, become an opper, and then kick cryptic1
20:35 < bmurt> +1 coderphive
20:35 <@cryptic1> BANT!
20:35 < coderphive> :o
20:35 <@cryptic1> final warning coderphive
20:35 <@cryptic1> then THEN!!!
20:35 < coderphive> Final?
20:36 < coderphive> When was the first?
20:36 <@cryptic1> ... I just walk away
20:36 <@cryptic1> coderphive, you knew
20:36 <@cryptic1> multiple warnings
20:36 < coderphive> I've been a bad boy?
20:36 <@cryptic1> uhhhh
20:36  * cryptic1 stops talking
20:36 < coderphive> :|
20:36 <@cryptic1> you won that one
20:37 < coderphive> until next time
20:40 < JFDkthx> cryptic1: my auto +v isnt working either
20:40 < bmurt> coderphive: i'll contribute to the freenode REAME, become an oper, and then kick/ban cryptic1
20:40 < bmurt> i gotchu
20:41 <@cryptic1> you cannot backdoor freenode easily like that its not JollyRgrs
20:42 < corn266> Did anyone else's snapchat break?
20:45 < dragonfleas> Is downtown orlando bad? Heresiarch
20:46 < rpifan> yes
20:46 < rpifan> i was just there
20:46 < gnupluslinux> O w O
20:47 < rpifan> roaming the streets
20:47 < rpifan> from my megabus to the girl that was driving me to bonnaroo
20:47 < rpifan> and then on the way back on the greyhound
20:47 < rpifan> terrible terrible disgusting place
20:47 < AnimalFarmPig> greyhound stations are always fucking depressing
20:47 < rpifan> the greyhound was worse then usual they were strip searching you
20:47 < AnimalFarmPig> oh, wow
20:47 < AnimalFarmPig> wait, srs?
20:47 < rpifan> yea and then a cop car showed up just as the girl was dropping me off and just hung out
20:48 < rpifan> then when they saw i was going int othe station they left
20:48 < JFDkthx> 2 more hours bitches
20:49 < JFDkthx> dragonfleas: nothing wrong with orlando at all
20:49 < rpifan> its terrible
20:49 < JFDkthx> psh
20:49 < rpifan> remember i was at pulse as well
20:49 < rpifan> not that night
20:49 < rpifan> but previously
20:49 < JFDkthx> what were you scoping it out
20:49 < dragonfleas> wait
20:50 < dragonfleas> pulse, wasn't that the nightclub that had a mass shooting
20:50 < rpifan> yes the gay place
20:50 < rpifan> anyway im going for a walk we can talk gay later
20:50 < AnimalFarmPig> it's not like they do shootings every night. That was a one-time thing.
20:51 < JFDkthx> one would hope
20:51 < abakedapplepie> tbh i only go out for shootout saturday
20:51 < abakedapplepie> its a rootin tootin time
20:52 < JFDkthx> s/rootin tootin/rootin shootin
20:52 <+layer-eight> [SED JFDkthx/abakedapplepie] its a rootin shootin time
20:52 < AnimalFarmPig> guys shooting on you > guys shooting at you
20:54 < coderphive> :|
20:54 < coderphive> the fuck did I just return to?
20:54 < JFDkthx> guys shooting on eachother
20:54 < technonerd> A gay Ole time
20:54 < JFDkthx> s/y/e
20:54 < AnimalFarmPig> discussion about Florida
20:54 <+layer-eight> [SED JFDkthx/technonerd] A gae Ole time
20:57 < MillerBOSS> enix πŸ‘‰ Yes I am.
20:58 <@cryptic1> s/gae/big old BIG OLD yes BIG
20:58 <@cryptic1> broken bot
20:58 <@cryptic1> ban MillerBOSS
20:59 < Hatter> has the SED feature of that bot ever been used for anything but homosexual remarks?
21:03 < scwizard> npm :(
21:04 < coderphive> s/has the SED feature of that bot ever been used for anything but homosexual remarks?/no
21:04 <+layer-eight> [SED coderphive/Hatter] no
21:04 < coderphive> cryptic1 obv the bot doesn't like you
21:05 < scwizard> does anyone here know how to into npm?
21:05 < scwizard> its design seems completely insane to me
21:05 < m00sehead> how to "into"?
21:05 < scwizard> it has a lock file
21:05 < scwizard> with shas of everything to ensure resource integrity
21:06 < scwizard> which is then totally fucking ignores
21:06 <@JollyRgrs> Hatter: yes
21:06 <@JollyRgrs> sed bot is also used for heterosexual remarks as well
21:07 <@JollyRgrs> cryptic1: you can't sed a sed, dummy
21:07 < alazare619> s/has the SED feature of that bot ever been used for anything but homosexual remarks?/I like big black cock
21:07 <+layer-eight> [SED alazare619/Hatter] I like big black cock
21:08 <@JollyRgrs> it's hard to tell which one was supposed to be saying that
21:08 <@JollyRgrs> i'm going to go with alazare619 is the one that said that
21:08 < alazare619> LMAO
21:08 <@JollyRgrs> like "conversation between alazare619 and Hatter"
21:08 < alazare619> :woo:
21:08  * JollyRgrs grabs kitchen knife
21:08 < grumplestiltzkin> yall want some soup?
21:08 < coderphive> πŸ’©
21:08  * JollyRgrs hands to alazare619's wife
21:09 < alazare619> you know whats suprising
21:09 < alazare619> that knife landed real real close to me
21:09 < coderphive> Not really surprised about that
21:09 < alazare619> like she got rediculously good aim with that knife including fall speed etc since that was from upstairs to the basement
21:10 < coderphive> Did you divorce her?
21:10 < alazare619> nah
21:10 < alazare619> we just made a red room after that
21:10 < alazare619> she still throws knifes at me too once in awhile
21:10 < alazare619> but that was like the first i wasnt even looking when it happend
21:11 < grumplestiltzkin> that's a healthy relationship
21:11 < MillerBOSS> You can sed the bot dum dum cryptic1
21:11 < coderphive> If I send you a document will you sign it alazare619?
21:11 < coderphive> It's going to say life insurance policy but just ignore that
21:12 <@cryptic1> .bofh
21:12 <@cryptic1> shittier bot
21:13 <@cryptic1> hey how come alazare619 has not been banned yet?
21:13 < MillerBOSS> `bofh
21:13 <+layer-eight> BOFH Maintenance window broken
21:13 < MillerBOSS> Learn to IRC cryptic1
21:13 < coderphive> `help
21:13 <+layer-eight> coderphive I have messaged you my instructions. Be gentle.
21:14 < coderphive> `popularity-contest
21:14 <+layer-eight> Popularity for candidate coderphive has been messaged to you coderphive
21:14 <@cryptic1> who uses ` as a triggerf
21:14 < MillerBOSS> Also feel free to make a change request for the ability to sed the bot.
21:14 < MillerBOSS> Yourmom
21:14 <@cryptic1> its always been ! or .
21:14 <@cryptic1> `ban MillerBOSS
21:14 < MillerBOSS> >its always
21:14 <@cryptic1> more broken commands layer-eight> I am sorry, cryptic1, I am unable to do that. Let me clarify, ban MillerBOSS is an invalid command
21:14 < MillerBOSS> Who adds a 1 after the nick.
21:14 < coderphive> Where's the bots github
21:15 <@cryptic1> its on grubhub not github
21:15 < MadCamel> tasty tasty code
21:15 < MillerBOSS> Its always been real<nick>
21:15 < coderphive> or fat code
21:15 < coderphive> take it as you wish
21:15 < MillerBOSS> realcryptic
21:15 < grumplestiltzkin> wtf.  on humble.   DC comics audiobooks.   That's a thing
21:15 <@cryptic1> @theRealCryptic1Donald
21:15 < MillerBOSS> coderphive πŸ‘‰  https://github.com/funsocietyirc/MrNodeBot
21:15 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS β†’  GitHub β†’ funsocietyirc β†’ MrNodeBot β†’ Your Friendly NodeJs IRC Bot Framework β†’ @ ~ 2 days ago β†’ JavaScript β†’ ✑ 15 β†’ Forks: 5 β†’ ☹ 5
21:15 < MillerBOSS> Yes
21:15 < GreyKite> grumplestiltzkin: has been for a bit
21:15 < JFDkthx> `grubhub best asian food in town
21:15 < coderphive> it would be a NodeJS bot
21:15 < JFDkthx> MillerBOSS: UR BOT SUCCS
21:16 < coderphive> pathetic
21:16 < MadCamel> imma get fired lol
21:16 <@cryptic1> grumplestiltzkin, HAHAHA how does that work
21:16 < GreyKite> MadCamel: yeah?
21:16 < JFDkthx> MadCamel: manchester
21:16 <@cryptic1> grumplestiltzkin, just describes the drawings ?
21:16 < coderphive> `fml
21:16 <+layer-eight> FML Today, after breaking up with my girlfriend of 3 years a few months ago, my boys convinced me to go out with the cute girl I had been talking to on Tinder. However,...
21:16 < JFDkthx> `lucky
21:16  * layer-eight points a 6 chamber revolver with one round loaded at JFDkthx, and spins (6 slots remaining)
21:16 <+layer-eight> *click* - Looks like you get to live another day JFDkthx
21:16 < JFDkthx> `lucky
21:16  * layer-eight points a 6 chamber revolver with one round loaded at JFDkthx, and spins (5 slots remaining)
21:16 <+layer-eight> *click* - Looks like you get to live another day JFDkthx
21:16 < JFDkthx> `lucky
21:16  * layer-eight points a 6 chamber revolver with one round loaded at JFDkthx, and spins (4 slots remaining)
21:16 < MillerBOSS> JFDkthx πŸ‘‰ If you use ` anything that will trigger the bot. Feel free to discontinue `gibberish if you would like to not be notified that is not a command. kthxbye
21:16  * layer-eight shoots JFDkthx in the foot
21:16 < JFDkthx> fuck
21:16 < JFDkthx> im ded
21:17 < coderphive> However?
21:17 < coderphive> like wtf
21:17 < coderphive> Cliffhanger
21:17 < JFDkthx> gotem
21:17 < MadCamel> yeah. HR can't verify my previous employment from my resume. It's absolutely a foreign concept to the banking industry that some small startups are so bad at financial management they don't file the correct tax paperwork. And tax paperwork is all HR will take as proof of employment, nothing else. So they're gonna fire me
21:17 < JFDkthx> ol masterbait and switch
21:18 < GreyKite> MadCamel: well then
21:18 < JFDkthx> MadCamel: dont you have pay stubs?
21:18 <@cryptic1> `ignore JFDkthx
21:18 <@JollyRgrs> MadCamel: srsly? what about taxes you filed?
21:18 < JFDkthx> ROOD
21:18 <@JollyRgrs> yeah, and paystubs
21:18 <@cryptic1> thank you layer-eight
21:19 < MadCamel> JFDkthx: I was paid half in cash, half in booze, and the rest from weird paypal accounts :P
21:19 < JFDkthx> so
21:19 < JFDkthx> ...
21:19 < coderphive> wat
21:19  * coderphive popcorns
21:19 < JFDkthx> its freelance work then
21:19 <@JollyRgrs> MadCamel: and you expect that to be a legit job?
21:19 < MillerBOSS> `ignore cryptic1
21:19 < asimon> so you weren't really employed?
21:19 <@JollyRgrs> JFDkthx++++
21:19 <@JollyRgrs> uber drivers are more of an employee than that
21:19 < MadCamel> Hey I worked for the guy for 8 years and we built an alexa top-1000 website
21:19 < JFDkthx> if they didnt file taxes on you, then you were self employeed
21:19  * asimon yikes
21:20 < estranger> "i am an entrepreneur"
21:20 < MadCamel> that's pretty legit.
21:20 < nthdevops> @MadCamel, Don't you have your own tax forms?
21:20 < gnupluslinux> I AM AN ENTREPRENEUR
21:20 <@JollyRgrs> MadCamel: the work you did is not the question
21:20 < gnupluslinux> IMA MAKE IT BIG JUST YOU WATCH
21:20 < asimon> estranger: pics or it didn't happen?
21:20 <@JollyRgrs> the employment type you had is
21:20 < JFDkthx> gnupluslinux: which is why hes looking for a job now
21:20 < JFDkthx> kek
21:20 <@cryptic1> `ignore MillerBOSS
21:20 < gnupluslinux> haha
21:20 <@cryptic1> thank you layer-eight
21:20 < nthdevops> Thing is if it's really that unofficial you probably somewhat misrepresented your old job
21:20 < estranger> 15 bucks little man, put that shit in my hand
21:20 <@cryptic1> the bawt is mine muAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAH
21:20 < gnupluslinux> JFDkthx, ya tracked me down?
21:21 < JFDkthx> wut
21:21 < JFDkthx> m8
21:21 < coderphive> watching cryptic1 bot and layer-eight communicate is like watching Google Home and Alexa in a battle of whits.
21:21 < gnupluslinux> YOU FOUND MY FAILING ENTREPRENEURIAL ENTERPRISES?
21:21 < MadCamel> JollyRgrs: well, $bigwebsite looked a lot better than "self employed", even if that's what I technically was. HR of course won't accept a change now.
21:21 < AnimalFarmPig> MadCamel: are you in the US? An employer wants to see tax documentation / paystubs to verify work history?
21:21 <@cryptic1> `ignore coderphive
21:21 <@cryptic1> thank you layer-eight
21:21 < MadCamel> AnimalFarmPig: yup
21:21 < gnupluslinux> cryptic1, back to work
21:21 <@cryptic1> D:
21:22 < AnimalFarmPig> MadCamel: wow, that's insane
21:22 < coderphive> `help
21:22 <+layer-eight> coderphive I have messaged you my instructions. Be gentle.
21:22 < coderphive> DIDN'T THINK SO cryptic1
21:22 < gnupluslinux> `dtn
21:22 < asimon> `help
21:22 <+layer-eight> asimon I have messaged you my instructions. Be gentle.
21:22 <@JollyRgrs> MadCamel: you shoulda put "Contract - $bigwebsite"
21:22 <@cryptic1> coderphive, EHEHEHEHEH
21:22 < gnupluslinux> i am supremely disappointed
21:22 < estranger> `shutdown
21:22 < coderphive> huehuehuehue
21:22 < gnupluslinux> `dtn JollyRgrs
21:22 < estranger> `sudo shutdown
21:22 <@cryptic1> `msg JollyRgrs bant!
21:23 < GreyKite> MadCamel: are you gonna do anything about it?
21:23 <@JollyRgrs> `sudo makemeasammich
21:23 < AnimalFarmPig> MadCamel: did you bring your own tools to the job, set your own hours, and choose your own methods of work? If so, you were an indepedent self-employed contractor. If not, you were an employee.
21:23 < gnupluslinux> estranger, i remember being ssh'd into the uni's lab machines and accidently running that
21:23 < gnupluslinux> nice couple of emails to the effect of "fuck you doing"
21:23 < coderphive> `help os.exit
21:23 < estranger> gnupluslinux, and thats how you got into community college?
21:23 < MillerBOSS> IronY πŸ‘‰ You are missing it
21:23 < MadCamel> JollyRgrs: yup. live and learn.. But they are freaking out now because they think I'm *lying* to them. I wasn't joking. This is a bank, not having a papertrail is just inconceivable to them.
21:23 <@JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: no.. "do you have a w-2, you were employee.. 1099, you were contract"
21:23 < gnupluslinux> i AM the community college!
21:23 < estranger> yer the community collage
21:24 <@JollyRgrs> MadCamel: that sucks tho, srsly
21:24 <@JollyRgrs> but yeah, banks are mad strict with that stuff
21:24 < GreyKite> MadCamel: did you have a w-2?
21:24 <@JollyRgrs> too afraid of someone stealing their data and/or monies
21:24 < JFDkthx> REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
21:24 < coderphive> `msg cryptic1 You're being let go. Sorry.
21:24 < estranger> financial services are under obligation to be strict about who they hire
21:24 < gnupluslinux> dont know on community colleges tho my local one shares professors with the UC
21:24 < gnupluslinux> same courses, same prof
21:24 < coderphive> D:
21:24 < JFDkthx> this fucking vendor doesnt have sysadmin in their job drop down
21:24 < AnimalFarmPig> JollyRgrs: not actually the case. It depends on how you actually do the work. Judges have ruled in the past that 1099 contractors were actually employees.
21:24 < JFDkthx> motherfucker
21:25 < AnimalFarmPig> and it's all about the character of the work
21:25 < estranger> JFDkthx, just pick helpdesk, same thing
21:25 < AnimalFarmPig> not about what taxes you file
21:25 < JFDkthx> if im going to have you call me and spam me, you better have the right fucking title.
21:25 < JFDkthx> estranger: listen here u cunt
21:25 < estranger> *BANG*
21:25 <@JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: hmm, interesting
21:25 < JFDkthx> you call me hatter one more time
21:25 < coderphive> pretty sure each state determines what an "employee" or "contractor" is
21:25 < coderphive> js
21:26 <@JollyRgrs> hatter, why are you getting upset people aren't calling you JFDkthx?
21:26 < AnimalFarmPig> JollyRgrs: so, for example, I used to manage contractor sales people. I could tell them, "Make sales in this area." I couldn't tell them, "You need to work these hours, use this script, do the work like X, Y, Z while using equipment that I provide"
21:26 < JFDkthx> REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
21:26 < AnimalFarmPig> coderphive: it's a federal issue, because it affects federal taxes
21:26 < LeftSquareBracke> fuck
21:27 < coderphive> let me rephrase
21:27 < AnimalFarmPig> some states might make additional rules, but fundamentally it's a federal thing
21:27 < coderphive> AnimalFarmPig the state you and I live in defines employment
21:27 < coderphive> mo betta?
21:27 < AnimalFarmPig> https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/employee-or-independent-contractor-know-the-rules
21:27 <+layer-eight> * AnimalFarmPig β†’  Employee or Independent Contractor Know the Rules | Internal Revenue Service
21:27 < corn266> LeftSquareBracke, I'm sorry this channel is for sysadmins only, not helpdesk employees
21:27 < MadCamel> yup AnimalFarmPig. If the entity that paid me still existed I could've put them on the hook for half my medicare and social security tax, reclassifying someone who has fixed hours and duties is pretty easy
21:28 < MadCamel> another live and learn
21:28 < joelazot> Morning guys
21:28 < AnimalFarmPig> state can make rules, but the contractor vs employee thing can get you fucked by the feds. Had to be very careful about it in a previous gig
21:28 < coderphive> interesting
21:28 < coderphive> Wish I'd used that at BNSF
21:29 < AnimalFarmPig> from what I've seen, lots of contractors are actually employees. Misuse of contractor relationship is pretty rampant
21:29 < coderphive> There's probably some loophole
21:29 < coderphive> yeah
21:30 < MadCamel> I think the loophole is that if you get the irs to reclassify you as an employee to save on taxes.. the company won't be too happy with you and probably find a way to end your relationship :P
21:31 < AnimalFarmPig> lol, yes
21:31 <@JollyRgrs> WHY MSFT WHY?!?!?
21:31 <@JollyRgrs> O365.... Version 1806 (Build 10228.20080)
21:31 <@JollyRgrs> they kept it to xxxx.xxxx for so long
21:31 <+giant_it_burrit> huehuehue
21:31 <@JollyRgrs> and my stupid custom report shows version number by trimming assuming it is 4char dot 4 char
21:32 < coderphive> How about you stop using Microsoft Products?
21:32 <@JollyRgrs> nope
21:32 <@JollyRgrs> why would i?
21:32 < coderphive> Knew it
21:32 <@JollyRgrs> you think deploying libreoffice is best for a large enterprise?
21:32 < admiralspark> Hey
21:32 <@JollyRgrs> GLHF
21:32 < coderphive> Yes
21:32 < admiralspark> you guys ever wake up
21:32 < admiralspark> go to work
21:32 < admiralspark> have coffee
21:33 <@JollyRgrs> admiralspark: GET WOKE, SON!
21:33 < coderphive> admiralspark no
21:33 < coderphive> generally, anyway
21:33 < admiralspark> sit down to go through a wireshark scan for PCI compliance stuff
21:33 < admiralspark> and see emails
21:33 < estranger> we got both o365 and gapps for some reason
21:33 < admiralspark> sending user password in plaintext to them in the capture
21:33 < coderphive> That's good
21:33 < admiralspark> passwords*
21:33 < admiralspark> oh yeah
21:33 < admiralspark> today
21:33 < GreyKite> admiralspark: sure, managers do that all the time here
21:33 < admiralspark> is a real, real shitty day
21:33 < coderphive> tbh, I call that a password store
21:33 < admiralspark> no no
21:33 < admiralspark> I'm talking about
21:33 < asimon> "But nobody else can see my emails right?"
21:34 < admiralspark> thousands of customers getting their current passwords emailed to them by a bill pay system
21:34 < coderphive> oh good
21:34 < admiralspark> I just checked, 30,000 customers potentially affected
21:34  * asimon double yikes
21:34 < coderphive> yeah, password recovery store
21:34 < GreyKite> admiralspark: magical
21:34 < GreyKite> have fun with that
21:34 < admiralspark> state laws, PCI, where do I start
21:34 < asimon> Doesn't Office do that too?
21:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> last day at my job is friday.... im so close
21:34 < syere> you start by informing your boss to CYA
21:34 < admiralspark> software vendor says "fixed in next release" which is currently in beta
21:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> and ofc a spam email storm hits
21:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> 3 phished accounts all activated at once -.-
21:35 < asimon> I feel like I reset a users Office account recently and it offered to send the new password by email
21:35 < coderphive> admiralspark I guess you're forced to issue a rollback
21:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> im gonna have to reset my whole domain before this will be fixed -.-
21:35 < coderphive> now that you know
21:35 < coderphive> or it's negligence
21:35 < coderphive> R.I.P.
21:35 < JFDkthx> McDonaldsWiFi: phucc it leave early
21:35 < JFDkthx> wgaf
21:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
21:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> i just really dont wanna burn bridges
21:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> im mostly mad cause the storm forced me to actually work
21:35 < syere> McDonaldsWiFi: not your problem anymore anyways
21:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
21:36 < admiralspark> coderphive: no, I need to force an upgrade :(
21:36 < admiralspark> we're not on the beta
21:36 < admiralspark> the "fix" is a beta
21:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> so close to the end boys
21:36 < JFDkthx> END IT
21:36 < admiralspark> and this is super, SUPER crappy enterprise software
21:36 < coderphive> So, instead of issuing an emergency patch, they issued a participatory beta?
21:36 < coderphive> Sounds like a waterfall shop
21:36 < coderphive> Fire them
21:36 < felda> I'm applying to be the new Supreme Court justice
21:36 < felda> will you guys vouch for me?
21:36 < coderphive> Yes
21:36 < felda> :D
21:37 < asimon> +1 felda
21:37 < coderphive> cryptic1 can't
21:37 < admiralspark> coderphive: I'd love to. Entire business is 100% integrated with this CIS. It's a niche industry and there's only one competitor, who we cannot transfer to
21:37 < admiralspark> haha
21:37 < admiralspark> ahhh
21:37 < admiralspark> :'(
21:37 < coderphive> I mean he can, but honestly they'll just reply to his recommendation with this: http://www.much.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/header-image.jpg
21:37 <+layer-eight> * coderphive β†’  βš“  https://www.much.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/header-image.jpg β†’ IMAGE/JPEG Document, 258,840 bytes
21:39 < coderphive> Also I just realized that layer-eight drops unicode
21:39 < coderphive> haha
21:39 < coderphive> McDonaldsWiFi
21:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> hmmm
21:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> it doesn't ruin my term tough
21:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> only emojislol
21:40 < coderphive> It is an emoji
21:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> srs
21:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> oh shit it is
21:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> hmmmm
21:40 < coderphive> βš“οΈ
21:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> OH LOOK it did disrupt my term
21:40 < coderphive> lol
21:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> just 1 letter is out of place after its emoji
21:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> that's funny
21:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> now i have double time stamps
21:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> thanks coderphive
21:40 < coderphive> np
21:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> i need to get a better term.. its either putty or screen
21:40 < scwizard> this is driving me crazy
21:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> either way this potato setup has to go
21:41 < scwizard> i set up a network load balancer for port 22 for this one server
21:41 < scwizard> and it works fine
21:41 < scwizard> i set up a network load balancer for port 80 for another server
21:41 < scwizard> and it just doesn't work :(
21:41 < coderphive> uh
21:41 < coderphive> You put SSH behind a load balancer...?
21:42 < coderphive> This is concerning.
21:43 < Heresiarch> coderphive: not all that unusual. SSH is quite well-behaved behind an lb.
21:44 < coderphive> :|
21:44 < coderphive> Are we talking an AWS NLB?
21:45 < Hatter> JollyRgrs: I think you were mistaken
21:48 <@JollyRgrs> Hatter: i was mistaken?
21:48 < Hatter> something about JFDkthx
21:48 < Hatter> I wasn't really following
21:49 <+giant_it_burrit> JollyRgrs killdash9 will you play spintires:mudrunners?
21:49 <@JollyRgrs> JFDkthx asked not to be called Hatter, so i snarkily took note of his request
21:49 <@cryptic1> but JFDkthx is hatter
21:49 <@cryptic1> and hatter is JFDkthx
21:49 <+giant_it_burrit> but who was phone
21:49 <@cryptic1> this is all very confusing
21:49 < Hatter> I don't care for that comparison either
21:50 < Hatter> it's like comparing apples with disgusting fat oranges
21:50 < Hatter> know what I mean
21:50 <+giant_it_burrit> what abpit you cryptic1
21:51 <@cryptic1> wow so harsh Hatter
21:52 < hxcsp> so Hatter is JFDkthx and JFDkthx is Hatter?
21:52 < hxcsp> atleast they arent cryptic1
21:52 < coderphive> honestly a fat, juicy orange might be a compliment
21:53 < corn266> s/fat/plump
21:53 <+layer-eight> [SED corn266/coderphive] honestly a plump, juicy orange might be a compliment
21:53 < coderphive> s/plump/pleasantly plump
21:53 < coderphive> damn, RIP
21:54 < corn266> `coin tails
21:54 < coderphive> `lucky
21:54  * layer-eight points a 6 chamber revolver with one round loaded at coderphive, and spins (6 slots remaining)
21:54 <+layer-eight> *click* - Looks like you get to live another day coderphive
21:54 < coderphive> :)
21:54 < corn266> `flip tails
21:54 <+layer-eight> corn266, your coin landed on Tails β†’ you picked Tails β†’ you are the ↑ Winner
21:55 < coderphive> oh no
21:55 < corn266> wtf I was deciding if I wanted to buy a handle of vodka after work
21:55 <@JollyRgrs> no
21:55 <@JollyRgrs> you should not
21:55 < coderphive> `lucky
21:55 <@JollyRgrs> buy a 6 pack of grape drank
21:55 < corn266> welp I picked tails and it landed on tails so Β―\_(ツ)_/Β―
21:55 < coderphive> `flip tails
21:55 < coderphive> well
21:55 < coderphive> JollyRgrs killed the bot
21:56 <@JollyRgrs> i did NOTHING of the sort
21:56 < bmurt> ugh. services are still broken. no +v
21:57 < coderphive> psh
21:57 <@JollyRgrs> i giveth
21:57 < corn266> now taketh away
21:57  * coderphive sets mode -v bmurt 
21:57 <@JollyRgrs> as you wish
21:57 <+shoh> lol
21:57 <+shoh> rekt
21:57 < coderphive> :D
21:57 < corn266> lol "oh wait that's me"
21:58 <+shoh> 'flip tails
21:58 < coderphive> Honestly I'm tunneled through like 2000 servers
21:58 < coderphive> you could never +q
21:58 <+shoh> `flip tails
21:58 <+shoh> :(
21:59 < coderphive> jk I'm only tunneled through one :
21:59 < scwizard> gah i'm so retarded
21:59 < coderphive> :\
21:59 <+shoh> yeah you are scwizard
21:59 < scwizard> the load balancer needs to be in the laod balancer subnet not in the same subnet as the target
21:59 < scwizard> i just copied thinsg wrong
21:59 < coderphive> copy+paste cloud wizardry
21:59 <+shoh> inb4 dmz
22:01 < scwizard> coderphive: i was copy pasting my own code tho
22:02 < corn266> yea but why did you paste it in here https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Korea_DMZ.svg/2000px-Korea_DMZ.svg.png
22:02 < scwizard> in after dmz
22:03 < onenerdyguy> well hot damn, it looks like I may be switching from Slack to Rocket.Chat
22:03 < coderphive> uh
22:03 < coderphive> why
22:03 < scwizard> onenerdyguy: was your boss mad that slack was down today
22:04 < onenerdyguy> scwizard, yep
22:04 < onenerdyguy> coderphive, mostly for hte self-hosted aspect.
22:04 < xamithan> But that looks almost exactly like slack too.  Jeez why don't people make something new
22:04 < hxcsp> people dont like new
22:04 <+shoh> lol @self-hosted chat
22:05 < scwizard> if chat is down how do you ping the work from home sysadmin tho?
22:05 < coderphive> Have you looked at the Rocket Chat codebase?
22:05 <+shoh> because everyones on-prem infrastructure is always infallible :-)
22:06 < coderphive> Why not Mattermost?
22:06 < xamithan> Why not jabber ?
22:06 < scwizard> i personally prefer to use hosted services because i'm just one idiot
22:07 < scwizard> i don't want to maintain everything it's too much work
22:07 < coderphive> Why not IRC?
22:07 < xamithan> Why not AIM?
22:07 < coderphive> Why not TTY?
22:07 < scwizard> coderphive: no gifycat intergration
22:07 <+TuxedoJack> Whee, now scan to fucking e-mail is broken for our clients
22:07 < xamithan> Why not letters and fax?
22:07 <+TuxedoJack> Fucking CTO put the same goddamn fucking wildcard cert on the antispam appliance
22:07 < coderphive> Why not owls?
22:07 <+TuxedoJack> And everything is pitching a fit
22:07 < MadCamel> why not something that's at least open-protocol and has 3rd-party clients?
22:08 < MadCamel> why not zoidberg?
22:08 < coderphive> MadCamel honestly, turn over your previous 1099
22:08 <+shoh> :-------)
22:08 < xamithan> My work still uses XMPP and pidgin
22:08 < coderphive> wow
22:09 < MadCamel> coderphive: got no 1099's. Got w2/1099 transcripts from the IRS. They are blank :P Paid under the table is, y'know, under the table.
22:09 < MadCamel> even though I'm not an idiot and claimed it as income and paid taxes on it regardless :)
22:09 < xamithan> Nice,  so you don't get social security in the future or unemployment
22:10 < rpifan> asuming there is a functioning federal government in the future
22:10 < xamithan> Oh there will be in some form
22:10 < xamithan> social security probably won't be a round
22:10 < MadCamel> look at how much money you'd need to retire if you don't have social security income... It's nuts.
22:10 < coderphive> Who's counting on SS?
22:10 < coderphive> Not this guy, lol
22:11 < rpifan> this windows laptop is causing issues
22:11 < rpifan> it boots inconsistently
22:11 < rpifan> it gets stuck on the levno part
22:11 < coderphive> JollyRgrs will probably get it bc he's like 90
22:11 < rpifan> or just shows a black screen
22:11 < grumplestiltzkin> if you legally convert to mennonite (or amish) you don't have to play the social security game
22:11 < rpifan> is that so?
22:11 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: i got more hair than you
22:11 < coderphive> orly
22:11 < grumplestiltzkin> yeah.  it's tempting
22:11 < coderphive> JollyRgrs That was just hurtful :(
22:12 < grumplestiltzkin> socal security will be insolvent by 2026 last I heard
22:12 <@JollyRgrs> i'm not the head gray beard, it hurts that you'd refer to me as such
22:12 <@JollyRgrs> i jsut didn't grow up on barney, k?
22:12 < xamithan> If inflation and rents keep going up at the same pace I"ll need about 20 million to retire
22:12 <@JollyRgrs> i grew up on sesame street and mr rogers
22:12 < Hatter> JollyRgrs is more a of Blue's Clues guy
22:12 <@JollyRgrs> nope
22:12 < coderphive> Then you're as old as I am
22:12 < grumplestiltzkin> JollyRgrs: remember buck rogers?
22:12 <@JollyRgrs> though, i heard that they are bringing that back
22:12 <@JollyRgrs> grumplestiltzkin: i know of, but that was before my time
22:12 < Hatter> was buck rogers where he put his hand in the thing and it melted
22:13 < Hatter> I think that was in Dune also
22:13 < Hatter> maybe both
22:13 < rpifan> well im bald
22:13 <@JollyRgrs> i only saw looney tunes as re-runs, not first-runs
22:13 < grumplestiltzkin> buck rogers had the robot 'twiggy'
22:13 < rpifan> what does that make me
22:13 <@JollyRgrs> no captain kangaroo and howdy doody show
22:13 < grumplestiltzkin> Taxi, Cheers, perfect strangers.  these were the things
22:14 < Hatter> grumplestiltzkin: don't be ree-dee-cu-lous
22:14 < rpifan> does anyone remmeber
22:14 < AnimalFarmPig> grumplestiltzkin: how do I prove that I've legally converted? Although I've got the beard and clothes for it, might be hard to pass as an amish software engineer
22:14 < rpifan> the phone 2 r
22:14 < rpifan> 4 remote control
22:14 < rpifan> that you could update fro the telephone
22:14 < rpifan> i bough one as a kid
22:14 < AnimalFarmPig> my Nokia N900 had an IR blaster and a remote control app
22:14 < rpifan> lots of fun
22:15 < xamithan> Did you get unemployment
22:15 <@JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: haha, n900? the first mobile gaming outside of a console :P
22:15 <@JollyRgrs> but do y'all remember the casio calculator watches that also had IR blaster?
22:15 < rpifan> Your monetary determination will normally be issued within 10 days.
22:15 < MadCamel> hellll yeah
22:16 < AnimalFarmPig> JollyRgrs: it was my second/third smartphone, after my HP Pre2
22:16 < AnimalFarmPig> first smartphone was a Google G1 that I returned because fuck android
22:16 < rpifan> i also had a g1
22:16 <@JollyRgrs> my wife had a samsung uh... whatever that "feature" phone was they had...
22:16 < rpifan> i paid 300 for it
22:16 < MadCamel> man I got an early casio calc watch in elementary school because they were like "you won't always have a calculator with you now learn long division"..
22:16 < rpifan> and owed tmobile another 300
22:16 < rpifan> that i never paid
22:16 <@JollyRgrs> i moved to android on the OG Droid
22:17 < MadCamel> now we have goddamn pocket computers
22:17 < AnimalFarmPig> MadCamel: haha, joke is on them
22:17 < rpifan> i also had a remote control wristwatch
22:17 < rpifan> lots of fun
22:17 < rpifan> u can still buy it
22:17 < alazare619> Interesting Cisco amp is picking up Kitty and puuty on fosshub as containing a dropper trojan
22:17 < rpifan> why do nerds love nostalgia so much
22:17 < grumplestiltzkin> if a feature phone could actually run dual sims and a VOIP application, and signal - I would be back to one
22:18 < AnimalFarmPig> MadCamel: I remember when I was a kid teachers would require that we put all documents into a binder and organize them because we would need this skill as an adult. I told them that computers would handle this for me. They didn't believe me. Who is laughing now, right!? Spolier alert: me
22:18 <@JollyRgrs> who remembers the super mario watch game?
22:18 < Hatter> rpifan: everyone has nostalgia, but nerds focus most of it on objects instead of people and relationships
22:18 < abakedapplepie> watch game?
22:19 <@JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: false
22:19 < rpifan> thats very true
22:19 < Hatter> JollyRgrs: I think that was just regular mario brothers
22:19 <@JollyRgrs> you are still putting documents in folders
22:19 < rpifan> i think about stuff a lot
22:19 < rpifan> less about ppl
22:19 < rpifan> also i hate that
22:19 <@JollyRgrs> Hatter: no, it wasn't, it was it's own game
22:19 < rpifan> i ihs i could fantasize about parties more
22:19 < AnimalFarmPig> JollyRgrs: sure, on the computer
22:19 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhG2HxBXQ7A
22:20 < coderphive> Not clicking that link
22:20 < Hatter> oh I never saw that one
22:20 < coderphive> layer-eight isn't here to tell me it's safe
22:20 < Hatter> game watches really were dumb
22:20 < AnimalFarmPig> JollyRgrs: any paper documents are handled by my secretary
22:20 < AnimalFarmPig> s/secretary/wife
22:20 <@JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: wasn't referring to paper
22:20 < rpifan> the guy is ugly
22:20 <@JollyRgrs> :P
22:20 < rpifan> but interseting topic
22:20 < abakedapplepie> never heard of that
22:21 < AnimalFarmPig> I'll put my document in u're folder
22:21 <@JollyRgrs> Hatter: know what wasn't terrible/dumb? Tiger Electronics handheld games
22:21 <@JollyRgrs> i hada bunch of em
22:21 < Hatter> yeah those too
22:21 < Hatter> I remember the Popeye one
22:21 <@JollyRgrs> tiger heli, paperboy, megaman, TMNT (that one was from konami, not tiger)
22:21 < grumplestiltzkin> JollyRgrs: I disagree.
22:21 <@JollyRgrs> oh, and bowling was fun on those, too
22:21 < grumplestiltzkin> you couldn't tell wtf was happening in those tiger games
22:21 <@JollyRgrs> i could
22:22 <@JollyRgrs> only if your batt was running out
22:22 <@JollyRgrs> then the screen would fade
22:22 <@JollyRgrs> https://youtu.be/ijYr6DOeMUs?t=42
22:22 < grumplestiltzkin> the only one I ever used that kind of made sense was a rambo game where you would have 3 positions at the bottom and shoot upwards and avoid stuff
22:22 <@JollyRgrs> even with that being totally scratched, i can still see what is going on
22:23 <@JollyRgrs> grumplestiltzkin: so like that end of level thing on contra?
22:23 < grumplestiltzkin> JollyRgrs: exactly
22:25 < Hatter> was anyone else here in the elite console copier club?
22:25 <@JollyRgrs> ?
22:25 <@JollyRgrs> you copied consoles?
22:26 < Hatter> for super nintendo, it was a great scene
22:26 < Hatter> a device that plugged into the cartrige slot, and had a 3.5" floppy drive on the side
22:26 < Hatter> you "backed up" games to the floppy disk
22:26 < Hatter> but the SNES scene in the BBS days was glorious
22:26 <@JollyRgrs> oh
22:26 < Hatter> but reserved mostly to uber-pirates
22:26 <@JollyRgrs> i went from NES to Genesis, then N64
22:27 < Hatter> Genesis was for rich kids and jocks
22:27 < Hatter> I never had one
22:27 <@JollyRgrs> genesis cost as much as SNES
22:27 <@JollyRgrs> it was for ppl who didn't want SNES (or who wanted blood in MK)
22:27 < Hatter> SNES was so much better than Genesis
22:27 <@JollyRgrs> i can't remember why we went genesis over SNES... prob b/c sonic looked cool maybe?
22:27 < Hatter> SNES MK had a shitty blood code
22:27 < coderphive> sonic
22:27 <@JollyRgrs> i dunno.. i used to play all the consoles in toys r us and sears and pennys all the time
22:27 < Hatter> actually I think it was a game genie hack
22:28 <@JollyRgrs> i never had a game genie, only rented it from blockbuster one time
22:28 < Hatter> my Super WildCard DX had built in game genie functionality
22:28 <@JollyRgrs> i did eventually get a gameshark for N64 though
22:29 < hxcsp> i had a sega gameshark
22:29 < hxcsp> or no
22:29 < Hatter> http://www.nightfallcrew.com/wp-content/gallery/super-wildcard-swc-dx-32mb-front-fareast/IMG_2087.jpg
22:29 < hxcsp> it was a game genie yeeah
22:29 < Hatter> you guys know that fat german guy in the news in the last few years?
22:29 < Hatter> Kim Schmidt AKA Kimble AKA Bitbug
22:29 <@JollyRgrs> no?
22:30 < Hatter> he was in a console trading group called Romkids(RMK) back in the day, my BBS was an HQ for them
22:30 <@JollyRgrs> g4u
22:30  * JollyRgrs claps for Hatter
22:30 < Hatter> until he got busted for stolen credit cards, and then worked with the feds to narc on every pirate BBS he had access to
22:30 < Hatter> I really don't like that guy
22:30  * JollyRgrs stops clapping
22:31 < Hatter> JollyRgrs: the megaupload guy
22:31 < estranger> da 6io bbs scene was da krad-ist
22:31 < estranger> /<-/24d
22:31 < grumplestiltzkin> That's still a thing https://www.retrousb.com/product_info.php?products_id=34   load ROMs onto a cartridge to play with original hardware, but with savestates, etc
22:31 < zenmechanical> BBS scene
22:31 <@JollyRgrs> Hatter: kimdotcom?
22:31 < Hatter> yes him
22:31 <@JollyRgrs> OH!
22:31 <@JollyRgrs> whytf didn't yo usay so?
22:31 < Hatter> I forgot that one
22:31 <@JollyRgrs> that's the one the news used
22:32 < Hatter> Check out this ancient piece of history:
22:32 < Hatter> http://cd.textfiles.com/thegreatunsorted/texts/bbs_legal_info/busts.txt
22:33 < Hatter> For about a year or two I was sure the feds would come crashing through my windows on account of that fat fuck
22:33 < coderphive> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggie_De_Block
22:33 < coderphive> lol
22:34 < coderphive> Minister of Health
22:34 < coderphive> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggie_De_Block#/media/File:MBEEK16046339_(26432435241)_Cropped.jpg
22:35 < dragonfleas> sup
22:35 < dragonfleas> any of u guys halo fans
22:37 <+giant_it_burrit> i was
22:38 < dragonfleas> right when i was watching the e3 livestream, my fucking aunt walks in
22:38 < grumplestiltzkin> pistol/shotgun
22:38 < dragonfleas> and RUINS the halo reveal
22:38 < corn266> then he took an arrow to his knee
22:39 < dragonfleas> i was about to buss a nut and she ruined it
22:42 < rpifan> its funny
22:42 < rpifan> there is a certain group of 20 sometimes
22:43 < rpifan> early 30 that een when i was 18 i owuld have found hot as fuck
22:43 < rpifan> which is rare ive always been into guys my age back then
22:43 < Hatter> into GUYS? ewww!
22:43 < Hatter> oh, sorry about that
22:45 < rpifan> lol
22:45 < rpifan> when you fuck the kind of guys i like it seems hard to imagine ppl wouldnt be into men
22:46 < rpifan> good thimg im moving to eastern europe that seems to be wher all the twinks come from
22:46 < rpifan> this one was nikola teslas cousin
22:46 < corn266> wtf you're fucking corpses?
22:46 < rpifan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfpxFB9q91Q
22:47 < rpifan> he wants to remove kebab
22:47 < nthdevops> @grumplestiltzkin, I remember using a flashcart for my gba
22:47 < Hatter> I'm a little bit gay myself, but so far I've never been attracted to a man
22:47 < AnimalFarmPig> lol, just ran across some code in the code base that was kind of weird looking but decent. Git blame says my coworker wrote it. I copied one of the lines into google and searched. Found the place my coworker copied it from without attribution.
22:47 < rpifan> thats cause your not doing the right ones. this one was so fucken tasty
22:48 < rpifan> nasty nasty
22:48 < Hatter> rpifan: I'm not doing anything alright, let's not get that rumor started
22:48 < rpifan> lol too bad
22:48 < rpifan> your mising out, how old u is
22:48 < Hatter> pretty
22:49 < AnimalFarmPig> old enough to have run a dialup BBS
22:49 < Hatter> AnimalFarmPig: I was just a little kid then!
22:49 <+giant_it_burrit> plz stop hooking up here
22:49 < AnimalFarmPig> Hatter: so was I
22:49 < rpifan> lol
22:49 < rpifan> https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/polandball/images/1/1d/TMBG_%28Visegrad_4%29_-_Istanbul_%28Not_Constantinople%29.png/revision/latest?cb=20141030073653
22:50 < Hatter> my gayness is mostly attributed to my enjoyment of musicals and preferring wine to beer
22:50 < AnimalFarmPig> I'm trying substituting wine for beer in an effort to decrease carb/calorie consumption
22:51 < corn266> "My gayness is mostly attributed to a standard of masculinity which I did not set for myself"
22:51 < rpifan> lol
22:51 < rpifan> nice
22:51 < rpifan> now ur thining gay demonsially
22:53 < MikeSpears> wtf
22:53 < MikeSpears> rpifan: how drunk are you
22:54 < rpifan> sadly
22:54 < rpifan> none
22:54 < MikeSpears> :(
22:54 < MikeSpears> woo, 6 mins till I leave work and do server things
22:55 < corn266> lul
22:58 < estranger> MikeSpears, you moonlite as a server?  IT getting that bad?
22:58 < dragonfleas> wait rpifan are you gay?
22:59 < dragonfleas> or are you femsysadmin?
22:59 < MikeSpears> Lol
22:59 < dragonfleas> Hatter, you bigot cisgendered white male nazi nationalist trump supporting racist asshole
22:59 < MillerBOSS> dragonfleas πŸ‘‰ Everyone is gay.
22:59 < dragonfleas> true, everyone is a little gay
23:00 < admiralspark> guys guys guys
23:00 < rpifan_> im a big gay
23:00 < rpifan_> but not fem
23:00 < admiralspark> my favorite people slandering each other
23:00 < dragonfleas> i am gay gay gay, i like long big cocks, ima super super gay
23:00 < admiralspark> cmon
23:00 <+giant_it_burrit> so?
23:00 < admiralspark> can't we all be gay together
23:00 <+giant_it_burrit> you guys
23:00 <+giant_it_burrit> who cares?
23:01 < dragonfleas> cryptic1 there's a lot of homoerotic tension in here, can we get a kick on everyone so we can all go fap
23:01 <@JollyRgrs> rpifan_: is your name al?
23:01 < admiralspark> dragonfleas: I thought you were shoh at first
23:01 <@cryptic1> What?
23:01 < admiralspark> cryptic1: twas a joke
23:01 < rpifan_> nop
23:01 < admiralspark> how you holding up cryptic1
23:02 < admiralspark> they put out positions to rehire for your team?
23:02 < Hatter> what the heck dragonfleas, that was uncalled for
23:02 < Maarten> I read once that 5% of the population is absolutely gay, 5% of the population is absolutely hetero, and depending on natural selection, birth rates, etc, the remaining 90% could swing either way.... with the majority swinging to hetero. Of course the macho womanizers are all going to claim: I am in that 5% hetero, for sure! :D
23:02 < admiralspark> backfill I guess at this point
23:02 < admiralspark> Maarten: was that the kinney scale or w/e it's called?
23:03 < Hatter> »» You have been invited to ##gayfan by rpifan (barjavel.freenode.net)
23:03 < Hatter> was that rude to share?
23:03 < grumplestiltzkin> doxx
23:03 < Maarten> admiralspark, I can't be remember
23:03 < Alternity> #gaydox
23:03 < grumplestiltzkin> I guess doxing would mean something else there
23:03 <+giant_it_burrit> fill all the ports
23:04 < Alternity> wow nsfw
23:04 <+giant_it_burrit> depends where you work
23:04 <+giant_it_burrit>  #brazzers
23:04 < Alternity> #gaycox
23:04 <+shoh> you fuckin wot
23:04 <+giant_it_burrit>  you've been redirected to #coxinternet
23:05 <+shoh> [22:01] <admiralspark> cryptic1: twas a joke
23:05 <+shoh> are you afraid of cryptic1
23:05 <+shoh> pussy
23:06 < Hatter> admiralspark: don't listen to him, he's just a bully
23:06 < admiralspark> what?
23:07 < admiralspark> no shoh I feel for him, he's overloaded
23:07 < admiralspark> Hatter: I know :)
23:07 < rpifan_> sigh this windows machine
23:07 < admiralspark> my day was already ruined
23:07 < MillerBOSS> shoh πŸ‘‰ Your balls are showing.
23:07 <+shoh> :O
23:07 < MillerBOSS> Bumble Bee Tuna
23:07 < rpifan_> u mean gay docking thats a thing
23:08 <+giant_it_burrit> p2p connections
23:08 < Hatter> I remember in Kindergarden, I was wearing these sassy little blue shorts, and during some sort of sitdown a kid said "I can see your balls"
23:08 < rpifan_> i have only one ball now
23:08 < rpifan_> who wants to see
23:08 < SynMonger> maybe later
23:09 <+giant_it_burrit> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/jm9DbXeY/1515578179900.png
23:09 < joelazot> hi guys
23:09 < joelazot> how is everyone
23:09 <+giant_it_burrit> i was ok until someone wanted to show off their testy
23:09 < admiralspark> sup joelazot
23:09 < rpifan_> hi
23:09 <+giant_it_burrit> *teste
23:10 < sadbox> rpifan: is that why you quit doing porn?
23:10 < rpifan> http://exploreplasticsurgery.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/saline-testicular-implants-dr-barry-eppley-indianapolis.jpeg
23:10 < rpifan> how do i politely tell the owner of this laptop im gonna need more money
23:10 <+giant_it_burrit> i need mre money plz
23:11 < SynMonger> "I found your porn"
23:11 < joelazot> that'll do it
23:11 < laduke-13> Did MS add some non-broadcast network discovery feature recently?
23:11 < rpifan> lol
23:13 < rpifan> ms 13?
23:16 < onenerdyguy> does anyone have a good suggestion for a web filter that is easily searchable via HR?
23:16 < onenerdyguy> not really looking to block, but more have a record.
23:16 < SynMonger> that an HR drone would understand? that's a tall order
23:17 < rpifan> why
23:17 < onenerdyguy> maybe not HR understand, but makes reports they can?
23:17 < onenerdyguy> and it's a request from them rpifan . They want the info, I'm just the drone
23:20 < rpifan> id refuse
23:20 < joelazot> Idk if i should become a windows admin who's proficient in linux cause im scared of not being able to find a job y'know
23:20 < SynMonger> maybe something like the fortianalyzer could make a report of all the blocked sites that someone attempted to access
23:20 < admiralspark> onenerdyguy: Sooooooooo, you want HR to have access to track users?
23:20 < admiralspark> You want something like T4W then
23:21 < rpifan> doe that come with fortinet
23:21 < onenerdyguy> rpifan, see, I like having my job ;)
23:21 < admiralspark> usually billed as "productivity management software" or some such shit
23:21 < xamithan> email us some food
23:21 < onenerdyguy> and it's not so much that they actively use it for tracking users. The issue has come up with users like watching porn, etc.
23:21 < admiralspark> Fortinet can generate reports but you'd have to build custom ones to be useful to HR, way beyond the scope of what Fortinet support will help you with
23:21 < onenerdyguy> it's a fireable offense, but they want the logs there to have if and when someone tries to make a sink on it
23:22 < admiralspark> onenerdyguy: yeah, again, T4W
23:22 < admiralspark> hell
23:22 < admiralspark> I can give you a list of some
23:22 < xamithan> do people not watch porn behind a VPN?
23:22 < onenerdyguy> admiralspark, wouldn't say no
23:22 < onenerdyguy> xamithan, not your average bus driver, no
23:22 < rpifan> is it gay porn tho
23:22 < xamithan> I bet those same people don't use condoms either
23:22 < admiralspark> hmmm
23:23 < SynMonger> xamithan: if you can't trust your partner not to give you the clap, who can you trust?
23:23 < admiralspark> oops
23:23 < onenerdyguy> yeah was gonna say
23:24 < SynMonger> but yeah, I browse by vpn at work
23:25 < onenerdyguy> SynMonger, personally, i'd have an issue with that as IT, but that's not me
23:25 < rpifan> i never do
23:25 < nthdevops> Do you socks from a browser or just route ALL traffic through vpn
23:26 < xamithan> All traffic except local network
23:26 < admiralspark> onenerdyguy: there, figured out what the hell I was doing
23:26 < rpifan> condos are bad
23:27 < MadCamel> dagnammit. Anyone have a copy of checkpoint endpoint security dmu?
23:35 < joelazot> what would you guys count as 'basic linux knowledge' enough to put on a CV?
23:37 < MadCamel> basic? Navigate files/directories on the commandline, know what | and > do, install/remove packages, edit files, boot 'er up and shut 'er down, google for answers.
23:37 < joelazot> what would you count as 'intermediate' knowledge then?
23:39 < brennz> kernel compiling, good shellscript automation skills, ability to troubleshoot
23:39 < MadCamel> knowledge of logging, cron, the init system, installation and configuration of common services, some light iptables/firewall stuff maybe, shell/python/perl scripting
23:39 < MadCamel> system monitoring tools
23:39 < joelazot> I'm somewhere inbetween basic and intermediate then
23:40 < joelazot> I can configure a iptables and read logs and shit
23:40 < joelazot> i know how to use ansible
23:40 < joelazot> i can obviously setup the base system
23:40 < joelazot> idk what i'd count that as
23:41 < SynMonger> well past what most people ever learn about linux
23:41 < xamithan> Basic is like..  the RHCE
23:42 < xamithan> services, tcp wrappers,  vhosts,  NAT, PAT, SNAT, security, hardening, kerberos, ldap, automount, nfs, samba
23:42 < MadCamel> sounds intermediate enough to me. Mock interview question: 'vmstat' says the machine has 1g ig free, 2 gigs buffered, and 3 gigs cached. How much available ram does the machine have free?
23:42 < rpifan_> meh germans and sausages
23:42 < admiralspark> xamithan: RHCSA, you mean
23:42 < admiralspark> and it's not basic, it's one of the few individually-proctored interactive tests
23:42 < xamithan> No I mean the RHCE,  RHCSA is just like users and permissions and partitioning
23:42 < joelazot> what like 4gigs?
23:42 < admiralspark> RHCE is a years of experience exam
23:43 < admiralspark> RHCSA is basic linux from an enterprise standpoint
23:43 < admiralspark> RHCE's are typically damn good at what they do
23:43 < xamithan> Well you still can't do any basic admin tasks like LDAP with the RHCSA
23:44 < xamithan> or apache
23:44 < xamithan> or anything really but users
23:44 < admiralspark> LDAP wouldn't be basic admin tasks though, and RHCSA is definitely apache. It's also sattelite, service management, scripting, database management, etc
23:44 < admiralspark> how long has it been since you got an RHCSA? :P
23:44 < xamithan> Two years
23:44 < admiralspark> whaaaaat
23:44 < xamithan> I don't remember any satellite, scripting,  or databases
23:45 < xamithan> That was on RHCE yeah
23:45 < admiralspark> https://www.redhat.com/en/services/certification/rhcsa
23:45 < admiralspark> says right there what it covers
23:46 < MadCamel> joelazot: close. the kernel will evect caches if an application needs the memory. then it will start evicting some buffers. So the machine has 6g of ram for application usage. Most noobs don't know this and think linux ate their ram.
23:46 < admiralspark> thats a lot more than changing directories
23:46 < xamithan> Don't see databases, scrripting, apache, satellite on there either
23:46 < admiralspark> MadCamel: that's why several tools like top/htop and SNMP stats show it as reserved :P
23:46 < joelazot> ah ok
23:46 < admiralspark> xamithan: "Deploy, configure, and maintain systems, including software installation, update, and core services\"
23:47 < admiralspark> if you didn't get tested on deploying LAMP, your examiner was bad
23:47 < admiralspark> or you went to a quickpass camp
23:47 < joelazot> I think i'll spend a year on learning Linux, and a year on learning windows just to keep my doors open and etc
23:47 < MadCamel> haha in fact.. https://www.linuxatemyram.com/
23:47 < xamithan> That doesn't say databases, http|https, satellite, etc.
23:47 < dragonfleas> I've not had a lot of motivation at work lately
23:47 < dragonfleas> I've been doing the bare minimum
23:47 < admiralspark> okay, whatever man
23:47 < xamithan> When did you take the exam ?
23:47 < dragonfleas> it's not out of laziness or anything, I just can't like feel that ambition to get shit done
23:47 < dragonfleas> how do i help this
23:48 < admiralspark> dragonfleas: we all have weeks like that man
23:48 < admiralspark> do you keep a log of your successes?
23:48 < sadbox> joelazot: hi, I do a fairly large number of interviews for a fairly large tech company
23:48 < dragonfleas> my home life is in this weird limbo state and it's fucking with my work focus
23:48 < sadbox> ~4-5 / week
23:48 < admiralspark> like "kept our website from blowing up this week"
23:48 < joelazot> sadbox: oh wow
23:48 < dragonfleas> I'm also unmedicated ADD so it's incredibly hard
23:48 < joelazot> dragonfleas: i feel you man. I couldn't do anything @ school before i got diagnosed.
23:49 < sadbox> joelazot: a lot of the stuff people consider "intermediate" or "advanced" is normally a matter of depth
23:49 < sadbox> everyone should understand how to start a process
23:49 < rpifan_> i have medicaated sleepiness
23:49 < joelazot> wait some people in linux job's don't know how to start processes? lol
23:49 < sadbox> understanding the different methods of process management and why each had advatages is more important though
23:50 < xamithan> Some people who have linux jobs just sit and watch monitoring systems and call people when they get an alert joel
23:50 < joelazot> oh wow
23:50 < xamithan> They might have a button they push for a restart,  or a script to run for config management to rebuild a container|VM
23:50 < sadbox> I don't want to know if you know what a pipe does on the high level, I want you to explain how pipes work under the hood
23:51 < nthdevops> I can't believe https://www.linuxatemyram.com/ exists lol
23:51 < nthdevops> Unused ram is wasted ram
23:51 < nthdevops> You'd want your system to use all your ram for one thing or another whenever possible
23:51 < DomLS3> s/ram/pussy
23:51 < DomLS3> oof
23:51 < joelazot> lmao
23:51 < DomLS3> someone got layer-eight muted
23:51 < DomLS3> jackasses
23:51 < admiralspark> nthdevops: agreed
23:51 < nthdevops> That being said, modern web browsers ;(
23:52 < nthdevops> I don't see why they need like 1GB to render one page sometimes rofl
23:52 < enix> bruh
23:52 < enix> dead
23:52 < enix> did not wake up this morning x.x
23:52 < sadbox> joelazot: I assume most people can hop around in a filesystem, I want to know that you know what an inode is, how filesystems are built, etc etc
23:53 < dragonfleas> people like DomLS3 get layer-eight muted
23:53 < sadbox> tl;dr the path from intermediate -> advanced is more about depth (imho) than breadth
23:53 < nthdevops> Speaking of inodes/filesystems does anyone work w/ GPFS regularly?
23:53 < admiralspark> sadbox: are you talking about software engineers?
23:53 < MadCamel> never thought of it like that sadbox but it's a pretty accurate observation.
23:53 < sadbox> admiralspark: SRE
23:54 < admiralspark> ahhhhhhhhh
23:55 < sadbox> I would argue that the path to a truly great systems person involves some software engineering
23:55 < MadCamel> knowing that pipe(2) exists and how it's commonly used to pipe data from a parent to a child process(or rarely vice-versa) is a heck of a lot more knowledgable than knowing how to chain commands with |
23:55 < sadbox> hard to troubleshoot shit if you don't know what syscalls are, can read code, etc
23:55 < admiralspark> I agree, but
23:55 < admiralspark> an SRE is an end career for only a select few
23:55 < MadCamel> heh. what do these SRE positions pay? ;)
23:56 < joelazot> I'd love to be a SRE man
23:56 < sadbox> admiralspark: I mean, it's what I do, and I don't think I'm that special
23:56 < admiralspark> the majority of enterprise linux admins are "advanced" when they're managing large Oracle ERP's for dozens of sites, not cloud-scale SDN afficionados who write kernel modules in their spare time
23:56 <+CheckYourSix> MadCamel: Lots
23:56 < admiralspark> sadbox: I'd argue you're more specialized than 90% of sysads out there
23:56 < admiralspark> even if you work at Amazon and only SRE for their platform
23:56 < joelazot> sometimes i get anxious that I won't be a good admin since i have 'processing delays'
23:57 < admiralspark> joelazot: do you want to learn?
23:57 < joelazot> yes
23:57 < admiralspark> then you're already ahead of 50% of the people I know in this field
23:57 < agent_white> sadbox: Sound like one of the guys I'll be interviewing with this week... going for my first jr. sysadmin slot and trying not to shit my pants.
23:58 < admiralspark> the true skills you need to make it in IT: Have a thirst for knowledge, be able to keep a level head in emergencies, learn to write good resumes and learn to interview well
23:58 < sadbox> MadCamel: in silicon valley salaries start at around 120k (+20-30k in stocks / bonuses) for the good companies, 200-250k total comp is pretty reasonable after a few years
23:58 < admiralspark> the rest comes with experience on-the-job
23:58 < joelazot> oh wow
23:58 < joelazot> i'll be fine
23:58 < pcspkr> admiralspark: also the tenacity to keep banging your head against the wall
23:58 < pcspkr> that's what IT is
23:58 < admiralspark> ^^
23:58 < sadbox> agent_white: If it's your first jr sysadmin gig I hope they're not gonna ask you what an inode is
23:58 < pcspkr> programming even more so
23:58 < nthdevops> @sadbox, 600+ once you get to 5+
23:59 < MadCamel> sadbox: nice, thanks. I think I just found a new career path to consider!
23:59 < sadbox> nthdevops: yep
23:59 < nthdevops> @agent_white, Linux?
23:59 < agent_white> sadbox: Oh I brought it up on the phone actually during the initial interview. Isn't that a basic thing though?
23:59 < sadbox> I mean, level 7-9 is pushing 1mil
23:59 < xamithan> I've been getting asked a ton of questions about storage in interviews
23:59 < nthdevops> I skipped jr
23:59 < joelazot> I'm good at formal writing, and I'm good with people.
23:59 < agent_white> nthdevops: Yes
23:59 < xamithan> I'm not even sure where to start to learn about "storage"
23:59 < joelazot> anyway
23:59 < joelazot> im off for a bit
23:59 < joelazot> next class
23:59 < joelazot> cya
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