--- Log opened Thu Jun 28 00:00:03 2018
--- Day changed Thu Jun 28 2018
00:00 < sadbox> agent_white: yes/no
00:00 < nthdevops> It shouldn't be too hard, if you have any questions just shoot
00:00 < agent_white> sadbox: ?
00:00 <+CheckYourSix> nthdevops: You work with sadbox ?
00:00 < nthdevops> No? @CheckYourSix
00:00 < sadbox> CheckYourSix: Levels are all ~roughly the same in the bay
00:00 < nthdevops> Was responding to the bay area thing
00:00 <+CheckYourSix> sadbox: Ah
00:00 < nthdevops> since I'm from there
00:00 < sadbox> i.e. level 5 at FB ~= level 5 from goog
00:01 <+CheckYourSix> 600k+... good god
00:01 < nthdevops> That's total comp
00:01 < sadbox> sometimes different numbers
00:01 <+CheckYourSix> Even so, that's insane
00:01 < nthdevops> Including options, it's generally only 200~300 salary
00:01 <+CheckYourSix> Still a lot
00:01 < sadbox> hey you can almost afford a house with that much
00:02 < nthdevops> Lol, good practice is 200% salary for buying a house
00:02 < admiralspark> eh
00:02 < admiralspark> COLA tho
00:02 < MadCamel> heh I'm severly limited in options as I'm remote-only due to disability.. But in my low CoL area 200k/yr would get you a 6 bedroom :)
00:02 < nthdevops> But even the cheap houses here are ~900
00:02 < nthdevops> For a 2 bedroom XX etc
00:03 < agent_white> sadbox: I was asked about runlevels, systemv init, dns records, and a few commands (how to list open descriptors,etc.). Wondering what's gonna be asked in this final interview.
00:03 < nthdevops> It's honestly going to be expansion in a few fields + culture fit etc
00:03 < sadbox> ^^
00:03 < nthdevops> They're also going to have 2 team members
00:03 < nthdevops> Or so
00:03 < nthdevops> To get a feel for you as a person
00:04 < nthdevops> So just don't be too uptight
00:04  * agent_white sweats profusely 
00:04 < nthdevops> You know all the tips about deflecting salary stuff right for when they call you in w/ manager or hr
00:04 < admiralspark> jesus christ, I'd have to make 160k in SF to be equivalent to where I am now
00:04 < admiralspark> fucking
00:04 < admiralspark> cost of living
00:04 < nthdevops> Eh, it's not TOO bad
00:04 < rpifan_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyHi2FESIVo
00:05 < nthdevops> It's just housing. The property tax etc is cheap compared to what I'm used to
00:05 < sadbox> admiralspark: yes and no, don't expect to own a house on 160k there
00:05 < nthdevops> Cars don't cost more
00:05 < rpifan_> SF is disgusting
00:05 < rpifan_> i fucken hate
00:05 < nthdevops> Just tax is roughly 2% more
00:05 < rpifan_> that shitty ass motherfucken place
00:05 < admiralspark> sadbox: that's insane. A nice house here is 250k
00:05 < rpifan_> i lived tehre once upn a time
00:05 < hxcsp> lots of jobs in Houston
00:05 < hxcsp> low COL
00:05 < sadbox> It's a good place to buy a 100k car, and a bad place to buy a house
00:05 < admiralspark> like 2k sq ft with a yard and all utilities
00:05 < agent_white> nthdevops: Ah already have that set via the recruiter contact. So I know salary going in.
00:05 < sadbox> cause everything but housing is about the same
00:06 < sadbox> I own an espresso machine that costs ~2x what my first car did
00:06 < admiralspark> meh. Are you in SF or Palo Alto?
00:06 < admiralspark> lol
00:06 < admiralspark> jesus
00:06 < sadbox> admiralspark: I live in san jose
00:06 < admiralspark> ahhhh
00:06 < nthdevops> @sadbox, same lel
00:06 < admiralspark> yeah, buddy of mine went to Amazon in Seattle from up here, took a job at 115k up from the 60k he made before, but basically broke even
00:07 < sadbox> nthdevops: awwww yeah, cheap rent crew
00:07 < sadbox> "CHEAP" ~3k for my 2bd apartment
00:07 < nthdevops> I mean it's good cause commute is ~25 min to sunnyvale
00:07 < admiralspark> I rent so I can afford toys :P
00:07 < MadCamel> decent 2br houses here are going for 50-90k. If I had money I'd buy 'em up because there's only one direction for these prices to go
00:07 < admiralspark> holy shit
00:07 < admiralspark> 3k rent
00:07 < admiralspark> that's like NY levels haha
00:07 < rpifan_> terrible
00:07 < rpifan_> ny is 3 times as much tho
00:07 < rpifan_> even in queens houses dont go for under 500k
00:07 < nthdevops> Mines 2.4 for 2 bedroom 2 bath
00:07 < rpifan_> and there those nasty semidetached pieces of shit
00:07 < rpifan_> 300 year old junk
00:07 < rpifan_> with no a/c
00:07 < rpifan_> and rot and roaches
00:08 < admiralspark> mines 1k for 1400sqft 3bdr 3bth, all utilities included except internet
00:08 < nthdevops> I mainly picked where I am cause there's gigabit
00:08 <+CheckYourSix> nthdevops: How'd you pull that off? $2,400/mo is cheap in SF
00:08 < admiralspark> ^^
00:08 < rpifan_> except in brooklyn wehre they cost 2m for something is nothign
00:08 < sadbox> they finally added gigabit to mine
00:08 < nthdevops> SJ, not SF
00:08 < MadCamel> damn all utilities? That's a steal
00:08 <+CheckYourSix> Ah
00:08 < admiralspark> yeah
00:08 < sadbox> I'm across the highway of alviso
00:08 < nthdevops> The TAX on a place I wanted to buy in SF is already more than 3k rofl
00:08 < MadCamel> whereabouts are you if you don't mind me asking?
00:08 < admiralspark> MadCamel: not in a tech market though hence low COL
00:09 < admiralspark> MadCamel: Alaska ;)
00:09 < MadCamel> Haha I thought it was 'spensive up there. Guess I'm wrong
00:09 < admiralspark> So
00:09 < MadCamel> oh. the wink
00:09 < sadbox> MadCamel: to be fair I paid $1850 for my first apartment in SF
00:09 < admiralspark> North of where I am, and the further north you go, yes
00:09 < admiralspark> no
00:09 < sadbox> MadCamel: but I lived in a studio on the edge of the tenderloin
00:09 < admiralspark> I'm legitimately here. Fairbanks though, that's like 230% above the country average COLA
00:10 < admiralspark> Anchorage is only 110% overall, and I'm in one that's 102%
00:10 < MadCamel> My place here in rural northeast US runs me 700/mo for 1400sqft with attached garage. But heat costs me like $400/mo in the winter so that makes it a real bummer.
00:10 < admiralspark> Power is crazy expensive up here
00:10 < admiralspark> MadCamel: haha, lemme ping you on something
00:11 < nthdevops> Just means your homelab isn't big enough
00:11 < nthdevops> If you need to pay for heating
00:11 < sadbox> I think my power is like .22/kwh
00:11 < MadCamel> lol true. bigger homelab!
00:11 < admiralspark> sadbox: 22 cents?!?!
00:11 < admiralspark> in SJ???
00:11 < admiralspark> I pay 26 and that's stupid high!
00:12 < admiralspark> I heard california was only like 8 cents...
00:12 < sadbox> admiralspark: I think it goes up to 27 once I pass some limit
00:12 < sadbox> which I always pass cause I've got central air
00:13 < nthdevops> Price varies by time too
00:13 < nthdevops> Peak vs off-peak
00:13 < sadbox> nthdevops: I'm on the non-varied plan
00:13 < MadCamel> the dream is to make SF or NY salary while living in a poorer but low-crime area
00:13 < sadbox> w/ pge
00:14 < nthdevops> @MadCamel, easy, just work in sil valley but live a bit out
00:14 < sadbox> 21 cents until I hit ~300 Kwh, then 27.9 cents for the rest
00:14 < MadCamel> hm.
00:14 < nthdevops> You make SF wages with like middle upper class suburban prices
00:14 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, commute in 2.5 hours each way from Stockton
00:15 < sadbox> nthdevops: I would die from that commute
00:15 < nthdevops> I can't do more than 40 min commute 1 way
00:15 <+CheckYourSix> admiralspark: You heard wrong. CA electric is insane
00:15 < nthdevops> 45 min makes me go crazy
00:15 < admiralspark> MadCamel: just get a teleworker job for a startup ;)
00:15 < AnimalFarmPig> Stockton is such a lovely city
00:15 < admiralspark> CheckYourSix: I guess so.
00:15 < MadCamel> admiralspark: s'what I've been doing but it's starting to dry up now
00:15 < sadbox> admiralspark: It wasn't bad when I lived in the studio w/ no AC, or gaming PC, or washer/dryer
00:16 < sadbox> admiralspark: $15/mo because all it powered was a tiny fridge + lights
00:16 < admiralspark> holy crap Cali is higher than us
00:16 < admiralspark> no wait maybe not
00:16 < admiralspark> our average is 21c
00:16 < admiralspark> hahaha
00:16 < AnimalFarmPig> lol, wtf, yall paying crazy prices for power
00:16 < admiralspark> https://www.chooseenergy.com/electricity-rates-by-state/
00:16 < AnimalFarmPig> O
00:16 < rpifan_> do germany
00:17 < AnimalFarmPig> I'm paying something like $0.07/kwh in Dallas, and I'm paying more than strictly necessary because I'm buying 100% wind
00:17 < admiralspark> crazy
00:17 < AnimalFarmPig> if I went with natural gas or coal it's probably down around $0.05/kwh
00:17 < sadbox> I think mine is going up a lil' cause I swapped to the "please use solar instead" plan
00:17 < admiralspark> ours are so high because the cost of build and maintenance is so damn high
00:19 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, I imagine there are some unique costs to running infrastructure in AK
00:19 < admiralspark> solar isn't viable, wind is far too expensive to build, our only clean energy is hydro and the small reclamation plants at garbage facilities
00:19 < admiralspark> for us
00:19 < admiralspark> not countrywide
00:19 < admiralspark> haha
00:20 < admiralspark> AnimalFarmPig: there's literally areas where power cables are strapped to trees, because you cant cut down/install poles on national park land
00:20 < admiralspark> maintenance to get to half the grid is helicopter rides one crew at a time
00:20 < admiralspark> extreme weather, earthquakes, storms, it all adds up
00:20 < admiralspark> and everything big comes by boat
00:20 < AnimalFarmPig> I start to wonder why bother even having a connected grid at all at that point
00:20 < admiralspark> still wouldn't trade if for SJ though :P
00:21 < admiralspark> AnimalFarmPig: ours isn't connected
00:21 < admiralspark> when I say grid I mean the alaskan grid
00:21 < AnimalFarmPig> lol, no, wouldn't live in the valley if you paid me
00:21 < admiralspark> and THAT is because power generation is a mess up here :P
00:22 < AnimalFarmPig> I meant, "Why bother running lines through a national park? Just set up another power station on the other end of it." Of course, then you need to figure out how to get fuel to that one...
00:22 < MadCamel> if you shisper about nuclear non-science people start going reeeeeEEEEEE though :(
00:22 < MadCamel> whisper*
00:22 < admiralspark> AnimalFarmPig: haha, I'd love to show you why in that specific case but I cant divulge that info :P
00:23 < AnimalFarmPig> no worries. I kind of imagine living in AK like living deep in the Australian outback, except really cold
00:23 < admiralspark> less kangaroos, more bears
00:24 < MadCamel> can't divulge the info? wait.. blink twice if you're being held hostage by an eco-bear
00:24 < AnimalFarmPig> more shrimp, less prawns
00:24  * admiralspark blinks rapidly
00:25 < admiralspark> I'd love nuclear up here
00:25 < admiralspark> unfortunately, engineering earthquake-proof nuclear plants is
00:25 < admiralspark> not achievable yet? Thanks Japan
00:26 < MadCamel> float 'em in the deep ocean :)
00:26 < MadCamel> desin it so if it sinks nbd, passive cooling
00:26 < AnimalFarmPig> geothermal-- exploit the heat differential between atmosphere and X meters underground
00:27 < SynMonger> we didn't need those fish anyway
00:27 < AnimalFarmPig> (until you melt and/or superfreeze all the permafrost)
00:29 < AnimalFarmPig> wait-- you know what Alaska is full of? Trees. Just cut them down and burn them to make power
00:29 < admiralspark> AnimalFarmPig: you say that jokingly but
00:30 < admiralspark> nat gas and coal come from somewhere
00:30 < admiralspark> haha
00:30 < AnimalFarmPig> actually, probably fairly carbon neutralish if you plan it right and replant. Only carbon costs are the ones associated with extraction.
00:30 < admiralspark> The nat gas plants are able to be carbon neutral
00:31 < admiralspark> the coal plants are CONSTANTLY out of compliance
00:31 < admiralspark> unfortunately
00:31 < AnimalFarmPig> assuming someone hasn't already sold the carbon dioxide absorbing capacity of the forest on the carbon credit market
00:31 < admiralspark> the EPA lets you purchase carbon credits
00:31 < admiralspark> which is garbo
00:32 < SynMonger> no worries, the EPA ain't enforcing anything nowadays
00:32 < SynMonger> roll coal, baby
00:32 < javi404> Ok, this is driving me fucking nuts
00:32 < javi404> how do I find out what time I started a service?
00:32 < admiralspark> javi404: what OS?
00:32 < javi404> ubuntu 18 in this case
00:33 < javi404> admiralspark: I wanted to time a battery charging in a UPS attached and forgot what time I started apcupsd
00:33 < javi404> actually, let me see if it has a log file
00:33 < admiralspark> javi404: that's systemd right?
00:33 < AnimalFarmPig> javi404: "service <service name> status"
00:33 < javi404> thinking out loud
00:33 < javi404> admiralspark: systemd
00:33 < admiralspark> systemctl status servicename
00:33 < javi404> admiralspark: that simple?
00:33 < AnimalFarmPig>    Active: active (running) since Thu 2018-06-21 09:25:19 CDT; 6 days ago
00:33 < javi404> ah
00:33 < javi404> duh, thanks
00:33 < admiralspark> javi404: try it
00:33 < admiralspark> lemme know
00:33 < AnimalFarmPig> no problem :)
00:33 < javi404> sometimes i need a 2nd set of eyes, let me check.
00:34 < admiralspark> AnimalFarmPig: you poor, initd bastard ;P
00:34 < AnimalFarmPig> admiralspark: works on systemd as well
00:34 < AnimalFarmPig> "service" is the lsb standard way to do it
00:34 < admiralspark> only when they built the aliased commands
00:34 < admiralspark> oh
00:34 < admiralspark> Ubuntu, they did
00:34 < javi404> admiralspark: are reserved for on-topic projects.
00:34 < AnimalFarmPig> works on ubuntu, debian, and centos/rhel
00:34 < javi404> thank you sir
00:34 < AnimalFarmPig> not sure about other distros
00:34 < javi404> I never even realized it showed me the start time.
00:35 < javi404> haha
00:35 < admiralspark> lol
00:35 < javi404> i just always look for "running"
00:35 < admiralspark> AnimalFarmPig: will have to check my centos7 boxes again
00:35 < javi404> or "exited" and skip the rest in my mind.
00:35 < javi404> admiralspark: ill check one now
00:35 < AnimalFarmPig> admiralspark: it definitely works on a standard centos 7 install. I use it all the time.
00:39 < javi404> since we are talking about systemd
00:39 < javi404> I have a .service file I created, it is for an app that depends on postgres
00:40 < javi404> so i have it as a dependency in there
00:40 < javi404> but it starts up quicker than postgres is ready, can I just put a timer in the .service file, or should I just do that like I would normally do in a startup script?
00:40 < javi404> I just need a yes or no
00:41  * javi404 pours a round of shots for AnimalFarmPig and admiralspark
00:41 < AnimalFarmPig> a "timer" in systemd context is like a cron job, but with a different syntax because the systemd guys implemented it
00:42 < AnimalFarmPig> I've never had good luck with the dependency based service starting, sorry :shrug:
00:42 < AnimalFarmPig> also not something I do every day
00:43 < javi404> AnimalFarmPig: yeah, I really just need a wait();
00:43 < javi404> or whatever the syntax is.
00:43 < javi404> thanks anyway, ill do some googling
00:43 < javi404> maybe the dependency isn't working, but i would be happy to let it sit for 10 seconds and then start up when the DB is ready for it.
00:44 < javi404> funny enough, it is for this very IRC bouncer I am using.
00:45 < AnimalFarmPig> javi404: how have you defined the dependency? After? Requires?
00:46 < javi404> AnimalFarmPig: let me look
00:46 < AnimalFarmPig> using Quassel with the postgres backend?
00:46 < nthdevops> Wonder if I should get pro from cdw or just try to get them to not preload windows so I can use enterprise
00:48 < AnimalFarmPig> from the man page-- "If a unit foo.service requires a unit bar.service as configured with Requires= and no ordering is configured with After= or Before=, then both units will be started simultaneously and without any delay between them if foo.service is activated"
00:48 < AnimalFarmPig> looks like you want to use both Requires and After
00:49 < javi404> [Unit]
00:49 < javi404> Description=Quassel Core Distributed IRC Client
00:49 < javi404> Requires=postgresql.service
00:49 < javi404> After=network.target
00:49 < AnimalFarmPig> add postgresql.service to After
00:49 < javi404> AnimalFarmPig: should i change network.target then
00:49 < javi404> let me check that
00:49 < javi404> try that i mean
00:49 < javi404> fuck it, ill do updates and reboot and see if it works this time.
00:49 < javi404> BRB
00:49 < AnimalFarmPig> that should work. I'm gonna head home. Catch yall later.
00:50 < javi404> AnimalFarmPig: have a good evening sir
00:52 < rpifan> my new 10000 speed vibrator has arrived
01:03 <+CheckYourSix> sadbox: nthdevops: How do the levels in SF compare to NYC pay wise?
01:04 < BytesAndCoffee> kill windows defender in GPO, reboot, my computer goes from pushing 90C to sitting at 55
01:04 < BytesAndCoffee> ffs MS
01:04 <+SpeakerToMeat> There's some... windows.... people here, right?
01:04 < nthdevops> Use something else
01:04 <+CheckYourSix> BytesAndCoffee: That's still hot to idle
01:04 < nthdevops> Avast is pretty light cpu/mem wise
01:04 < BytesAndCoffee> CheckYourSix: its a W541 with an i7 4940MX
01:04 <+CheckYourSix> Laptop?
01:05 < BytesAndCoffee> https://i.imgur.com/pOKkbgk.png
01:05 < BytesAndCoffee> CheckYourSix: "laptop"
01:05 < BytesAndCoffee> portable workstation
01:05 <+CheckYourSix> Lol
01:05 <+SpeakerToMeat> If you... windows... people wanted to set up a quick, safe, open source, very simple http daemon on windows with a gui/service control that only has: a) static content serving b) http based basic auth. What would you use?
01:05 < nthdevops> nginx?
01:06 <+SpeakerToMeat> hmmm a pita to config, but maybe, yeah
01:06 < nthdevops> https://lemp.io/
01:07 < BytesAndCoffee> nthdevops: i dropped avast when they started spamming me with scareware popups
01:07 < laduke-13> I bet there's something in `go`
01:07 < rpifan> lots of nice toys
01:07 < laduke-13> hmm with basic auth less likely
01:08 <+SpeakerToMeat> lemp is not easier to install than nginx itself, it's the config that's a pita but ok thanks
01:08 <+SpeakerToMeat> laduke-13: Yeah it's harder to find a very simple httpd with basic auth
01:08 < nthdevops> I just figured they might've include da tool by now
01:08 < nthdevops> you could use lighttpd
01:08 < nthdevops> https://www.lighttpd.net/
01:08 <+SpeakerToMeat> Oh yes, lightty I love lightty
01:09 < nthdevops> http://webmin.com/ + nginx an option?
01:09 < nthdevops> You have to get to the phase it's actually running but you can fine tune on webmin
01:09 <+SpeakerToMeat> I serve the most important whore site here with lightty
01:09 <+SpeakerToMeat> nthdevops: No dude, too much
01:09 <+SpeakerToMeat> I'll use lightty and cook a 2 line quick config
01:09 < nthdevops> That'll work
01:09 < nthdevops> I don't feel like nginix would be much more work
01:10 < genr8_> you can serve HTTP or HTTPS if you have python installed fairly easily
01:10 < nthdevops> w/ default
01:10 < laduke-13> https://github.com/codeskyblue/gohttpserver
01:10 <+SpeakerToMeat> nthdevops: For some reason lightty config feels natural to me, while nginx does not
01:10 < nthdevops> I see
01:10 < nthdevops> I've been using ng for almost everything myself
01:10 < nthdevops> Like caching/serving files from my fs to friends etc
01:11 <+SpeakerToMeat> huh lightty needs cygwin
01:11 < admiralspark> SpeakerToMeat: you aren't really using basic auth are you?
01:11 < matty_r> Without access to the DCs - is there a way to find out why/where my account keeps getting locked?
01:11 <+SpeakerToMeat> admiralspark: It's that, or no auth :D
01:12 < admiralspark> No auth is just as safe, basic auth is plaintext
01:12 <+SpeakerToMeat> I could use http digest
01:12 <+SpeakerToMeat> admiralspark: Yes, and? I can limit it to https
01:12 <+SpeakerToMeat> it's just an extra layer to serve a single file to a single person
01:13 < admiralspark> Why not use a technology designed for secure filesharing? Maybe...yknow, SFTP?
01:13 <+SpeakerToMeat> basic auth over https is not less safe than user+password over ftps
01:13 < admiralspark> logging, auth, encryption, etc
01:13 < admiralspark> SFTP != FTPS
01:13 <+SpeakerToMeat> admiralspark: Correct, sftp != ftps
01:14 < admiralspark> SFTP works fine on IIS, is secure, and is not a goddamn basic auth nginx hack on a windows server haha
01:14 <+SpeakerToMeat> It's not a windows server, it's a desktop machine, and I wont install IIS for this
01:15 < genr8_> just use FileZilla Server
01:15 <+SpeakerToMeat> I will just need to serve a single file, to a single person, for about 48 hours. https with basic/digest auth, ftps or sftp will all be similarly equivalent.
01:16 <+SpeakerToMeat> genr8_: Yeah, thats a pretty good possibility too
01:16 < genr8_> it supports the different secure FTP modes
01:16 < laduke-13> webtorrent :)
01:16 <+SpeakerToMeat> yeah, well basically the best ftp secure mode right now is tls, explicit.
01:17 < genr8_> you can do that
01:17 <+SpeakerToMeat> yeah
01:17 <+SpeakerToMeat> It could be https, it could be sftp, or ftps, depending on what they say on the other side
01:17 < laduke-13> https://instant.io/ *
01:18 <+SpeakerToMeat> Any free dyn dns service you guys would trust not to rape me for a couple days?
01:18 < genr8_> no-ip ?
01:18 < genr8_> your iP will still leak tho
01:18 <+SpeakerToMeat> I am not gonna do "make your own dyn dns with key based updates" for this guy like I've done home
01:18 < AustinS> nginx is my bb
01:19 < AustinS> just starting to switch out first batch of production instances for it finally
01:19 <+SpeakerToMeat> AustinS: I never trusted nginx... I mean I know it's good and works well in huge setups... but I always got the vibe the daemon gets up at night and snuffs kids
01:19 <+SpeakerToMeat> genr8_: Wetransfer is more common in our industry... no can do
01:20 < AustinS> i've never had issues with it acting funny, use it for production stuff internally (especially due to some of the video modules it has/that are out there), and I know PHP can definitely perform better with php-fpm+nginx if configured right for scale
01:20 < rpifan> i think ill do camp nanowrimo
01:20 < AustinS> so.. my goal! :p
01:20 <+SpeakerToMeat> genr8_: Our internet here is shit, this transfer will take almost 2 days (8GB file), normally conenction drops during that long to wetransfer, and this person has until friday to provide a link, it's better for us to serve something they can resume.
01:20 < rpifan> they can resume'
01:20 < genr8_> ok
01:21 < genr8_> less talking and more FileZilla server installing
01:21 < genr8_> once you see what it has, you'll be convinced
01:21 < xamithan> filezilla server?  wha?
01:21 < xamithan> Whats with with proftpd,vsftpd,pureftpd
01:21 <+SpeakerToMeat> genr8_: If we had more than 2 days, I'd offer myself to copy the file home and work, aria2 it from the two places at once to my vps, and either provide an http/https/ftps/sftp link, or go into the server with x2go and wetransfer it
01:21 < laduke-13> isn't that an adware installer now?
01:21 < MillerBOSS> https://twitter.com/BurgerKing/status/1011731087784062976
01:21 < AustinS> my internet here at work finally isn't acting weird with download. and ok spoke too soon when i went to do a speedtest cause its just .. getting 101 lol
01:22 < genr8_> windows
01:22 <+SpeakerToMeat> genr8_: Oh I trust filezilla, I tell all windows people to use it... the client that is
01:22 < AustinS> 774/871 a little bit ago
01:22 <+SpeakerToMeat> genr8_: I'm worried about their new pro push but they gotta make money just hope they don't go scummy with that
01:22 <+SpeakerToMeat> xamithan: Windows
01:22 < AustinS> installed speedtest.py on server across street on an internet line we don't use ... at all :|
01:23 < nthdevops> @SpeakerToMeat, Possible for him to use rsync?
01:23 < nthdevops> You can resume/checksum
01:23 < AustinS> 4ms | Download: 783.69 Mbit/s | Upload: 727.40 Mbit/s
01:23 <+SpeakerToMeat> xamithan: Windows desktop, there's no time and no call for something as complex as anything requiring cygwin et al
01:23 < AustinS> :( such a waste.
01:23 < nthdevops> WSL?
01:24 < xamithan> wsl don't do network sockets or whatever
01:24 <+SpeakerToMeat> nthdevops: I wish, it's what I use but windows clients are very very lacking, there is a very old gnome based UI veneer over rsync that I plan to drag into the new century someday to provide as a client to our clients, if I do not write something from scratch in electron based on a mix of two protocols I have in mind. but not mature enough for this
01:24 < nthdevops> @xamithan It can run rsync
01:24 <+SpeakerToMeat> nthdevops: The possibility of corruption is low enough that a resumable ftps/sftp would suffice
01:25 < nthdevops> You could statically compile rsync for these systems
01:25 < nthdevops> Would be super performant
01:25 <+SpeakerToMeat> nthdevops: Yeah, no, I can't tell this guy to ask the people at the festival to install and run a statically compiled rsync from command line, sorry.
01:26 <+SpeakerToMeat> nthdevops: This industry relies 70% on ftp with gui clients and 30% on exceedingly expensive propietary software (aspera)
01:26 < xamithan> rsync doesn't open any dedicated network sockets
01:26 < genr8_> SpeakerToMeat: i believe this is applicable: https://xkcd.com/949/
01:26 < xamithan> Not like say,  nginx would
01:26 <+SpeakerToMeat> Rather, 70% on ftp, 25% on aspera and 5% on wetransfer/yousendit
01:27 <+SpeakerToMeat> xamithan: You need port 22
01:27 <+SpeakerToMeat> not opened by rsync itself.
01:27 < AustinS> oh yay aspera.. lol. :| doing so much with orchestrator right now
01:27 <+SpeakerToMeat> Unless you do use rsync in daemon mode
01:27 < xamithan> Unless they fixed all that mess it wouldn't be able to run in daemon mode
01:28 <+SpeakerToMeat> genr8_: About that comic, yeah, though wetransfer will give you 2Gb free, no porn popups and not so flaky
01:28 <+SpeakerToMeat> genr8_: And we're talking sending from one country to another here :D lol
01:29 <+SpeakerToMeat> genr8_: And, I would've LOVED that comic to end with the guy suggesting kermit or zmodem :P
01:29 <+SpeakerToMeat> Maybe xmodem over RFC-1149
01:30 < nthdevops> What about mega.nz
01:30 < nthdevops> Can probably do it low cost/free
01:31 < AustinS> how much bandwidth you need? :P
01:31 <+SpeakerToMeat> nthdevops: Nice, part of the industry sees it as a criminal service but biggest part does not know it exists... with these time frames it's sketchy, depending on what the other side responds, I'll just drop either filezilla, openssh or nginx on this guy's machine for two days, slap a no-ip dyn and be done
01:31 <+SpeakerToMeat> AustinS: It's an 8GB file... over 768Kbps adsl
01:32 < AustinS> oh ok, you're not trying to distribute massive amounts of data nvm.. ouch @ that
01:32 < AustinS> i have a CDN account with a 550 TB commit that I'm tryin to figure out what to do with so i at least dont feel like its wasted lmao
01:32 <+SpeakerToMeat> AustinS: 80% of services used here have 768Kbps up, those that have more and/or symmetrical cost each month what a filmmaker here makes in one year
01:32 < AustinS> :S
01:33 <+SpeakerToMeat> Sigh I should be processing photos not this
01:34 < rpifan> i need this
01:34 < rpifan> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underberg
01:41 <+SpeakerToMeat> It's comming up, it's comming up, it's comming up, it's dare
01:47 < rpifan> im coming out
01:47 < rpifan> im coing out
01:47 < nthdevops> @SpeakerToMeat, That's slower than most cellphones nowadays ;(
01:47 < rpifan> i want the world to know
01:47 < rpifan> got to let it show
01:47 < rpifan> nthdevops, question
01:48 < nthdevops> Sup
01:48 < rpifan> does it make sense to ask a devops what their "stack" is
01:48 < nthdevops> No
01:48 < rpifan> i thought so
01:48 <+SpeakerToMeat> nthdevops: cell phones... here they are very fast, but doing a 8GB upload would cost as hell
01:49 <+SpeakerToMeat> I ain't happy, I'm feeling glad, god I'm useless, but not for long, the future is comming on
01:49 < rpifan> i was asking on fb for sys admin /dev ops jobs and a guy was like whats your stack..and im like hmm maybe im stupid
01:50 < xamithan> He wants to know what you develop for
01:50 < xamithan> full stack,  back stack,  front
01:50 < rpifan> but dev ops dont develop
01:50 < rpifan> right?
01:50 < rpifan> dont they just automate sys admin tasks
01:50 < rpifan> to the puddle
01:50 < xamithan> Depends on the actual job description
01:51 < xamithan> devops covers everything from full stack dev to just a glorified sysadmin using config management
01:51 < rpifan> yea i want glorified sysadmin
01:51 < xamithan> Then you don't want devops
01:52 < nthdevops> Dev ops are basically glorified provisioning monkeys
01:52 < nthdevops> at some companies
01:52 < rpifan> well some sys admin jobs in germany go by the titel of system engineer
01:52 < rpifan> im like hmm
01:52 < xamithan> I doubt they would be at facebook
01:52 < rpifan> engineer
01:52 < xamithan> or like google
01:52 < xamithan> Even for their SRE rolls it is a ton of software development
01:53 < nthdevops> @SpeakerToMeat, I have 120Mbps/50Mbps on my cell w/ unlimited
01:53 < rpifan> SRE?
01:53 < nthdevops> But I don't even abuse it since I have gig at home
01:53 < xamithan> site reliability engineer
01:53 < nthdevops> So I only use ~8GB a month
01:53 < rpifan> i see
01:53 < rpifan> well this is all mostly startup jobs
01:53 < rpifan> id expect a unified role
01:54 <+SpeakerToMeat> nthdevops: I don't hate you because I know you're not the culprit of my situation
01:54 < rpifan> i will say i am little disappointed to find out most of these startup have already at least 100 ppl working for them
01:54 < rpifan> thats quite sad
01:54 < rpifan> id rather work at really small place
01:55 < xamithan> You can have my job
01:55 < xamithan> Two employees
01:55 < rpifan> r u in germania?
01:55 < xamithan> Nope
01:55 <+SpeakerToMeat> df -h
01:55 <+SpeakerToMeat> feck
01:55 < nthdevops> @SpeakerToMeat, I hate ISPS almost everywhere ;(
01:56 < rpifan> what kind of business has only two employees
01:56 < xamithan> A small one
01:56 < MillerBOSS> lol
01:56 < rpifan> but what do they do
01:56 < xamithan> MSP|colocation|hosting
01:56 < MillerBOSS> Yourmoms hours has two employees
01:56 < MillerBOSS> House too
01:56 <+SpeakerToMeat> rpifan: Our company is just my dad and I
01:57 < rpifan> do u make mad money
01:57 < xamithan> No,  I don't own it
01:57 <+SpeakerToMeat> rpifan: No because this place is going to hell
01:57 < misspwn> rpifan, how was your interview?
01:57 < rpifan> it was meh
01:57 < rpifan> but i got another one tomorow
01:57 < rpifan> then another one
01:57 < rpifan> afte rtha
01:57 < rpifan> then another next week
01:57 < rpifan> its like non stop
01:57 < misspwn> goin hard, great work
01:57 < xamithan> How you find that many interviews,  damn
01:57  * misspwn applies to all those places too
01:58 < nthdevops> @rpifan, I went through that too recently
01:58 < nthdevops> You just gotta put out tons of apps
01:58 < nthdevops> I got 3-4 interviews a week
01:58 < nthdevops> Till I found a place I liked
01:58 < nthdevops> I was using linkedin/zip/neuvo or whatever
01:58 < nthdevops> send out 80 apps per 2 weeks
01:58 < misspwn> i probably broke a bunch of servers temporarily by changing a domain admin password and not really knowing how to use powershell effectively to check and see what services run on that
01:58 < xamithan> I try to do that,  but there is so many fake jobs
01:58 < misspwn> we'll find out tomorrow!
01:59 <+SpeakerToMeat> Feck I love Gorillaz
01:59 <+SpeakerToMeat> What does that make me?
01:59 < nthdevops> @xamithan, Who cares, just send it and deal with it later :P think of it like a dating site
01:59 < xamithan> I care when some recruiter calls up asking 20 questions about my company to try and sell them recruiting services
01:59 < xamithan> And the same job is posted for five years in a row
01:59 < xamithan> That shit should be illegal
02:00 < nthdevops> Which site
02:00 < xamithan> All of them
02:00 < misspwn> xamithan, i kinda want to be IT in those fuckin IT recruiting places
02:00 < misspwn> be like how about you just get me a job there
02:00 < xamithan> They contract out the IT in most of those places
02:00 < xamithan> overseas
02:01 < rpifan> i am applying to about 20 places everyday
02:01 < rpifan> in germany
02:01 < rpifan> in fact i have run out of things to apply for
02:01 < rpifan> on a lot of sites
02:01 < rpifan> im gonna start looking at london stuff
02:01 < misspwn> don't leave us
02:01 < rpifan> it seems its two degrees warmer
02:01 < enix> estranger posted this last night, so I'm preposting it for you guys https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/en-US/news/postmortem-of-service-outage-4-12
02:01 < rpifan> after my last firing the last thing i want is to deal with the BS us system
02:01 < enix> Very good read
02:01 < rpifan> i dotn eevn know what fortnite is
02:01 < enix> ...
02:02 < xamithan> Some game brazilians play
02:02 < rpifan> soccer?
02:03 < nthdevops> I had someone call me for desktop 1 sup offering 17$
02:03 < xamithan> Nah,  kind of like overwatch,  some FPS game
02:03 < nthdevops> When I applied to something else
02:03 < nthdevops> A Voip number helps to filter
02:03 < nthdevops> Once you land a job
02:03 < MillerBOSS> enix 👉 You pinged me earlier. Whats up?
02:03 < rpifan> idk what overwatch is either
02:04 < rpifan> no one calls its all skype
02:05 < enix> All good don't stress
02:05 < enix> I pinged you like 10 hours ago nice memory :)
02:05 < enix> MillerBOSS: where abouts are you located actually? We on the same timezone?
02:06 < MillerBOSS> I pinged you back earlier today. CDT, señor.
02:06 <@cryptic1> whoa whoa whoa no need to try and dox MillerBOSS there enix
02:06 < enix> cryptic1: blow me
02:06 < rpifan> lol
02:06 < MillerBOSS> lol
02:07 <@cryptic1> D:
02:07 < enix> :D
02:07 < enix> come to ##gayfan cryptic1 let us turn that frown up side down
02:08 <@cryptic1> uh
02:09 < MillerBOSS> Wait, am I in the discord?
02:09 <@cryptic1> seems like it :/
02:09 < rpifan> no
02:09 < rpifan> discord is banned
02:09 < rpifan> bad discord
02:10 <@cryptic1> yes
02:10 < rpifan> theres a bot in here isnt there
02:11 < enix> rpifan: shh
02:11 < enix> oh wait... nvm.
02:11 < xamithan> You might be a bot
02:12 < xamithan> Have you passed the turing test?
02:12 < rpifan> i havent been asked
02:18 <+CheckYourSix> Can you force Windows 7 to reboot into safe mode if you're at the login screen? F8 key just will not work to bring it up
02:19 < nthdevops> you can use msconfig to set next boot to safe as an option @CheckYourSix
02:19 < insecurity> plerp nort
02:19 < nthdevops> but you said login screen so I assume
02:19 <+CheckYourSix> nthdevops: Can't log into the machine
02:20 <+CheckYourSix> User profile is fucked
02:20 < xamithan> Just reboot it like 3 or 4 times mid-boot
02:20 < nthdevops> use a bootable 7 usb and use bcdedit to set safemode maybe?
02:20 < nthdevops> That's an option too
02:20 < nthdevops> Power it off unsafely during boot
02:21 < nthdevops> Might flag it for safemode if you're lucky or startup repair
02:21 < nthdevops> Which would then help you gain access to safemode
02:21 <+CheckYourSix> I'm trying to walk a non tech friend through this and I'm in another state lol
02:29 < MillerBOSS> Can you all just settle the fuck down?
02:29 < MillerBOSS> Fur fuck sakes
02:31 < MillerBOSS> https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/47293/how-can-someone-go-off-web-and-anonymise-themselves-after-a-life-online
02:31 < MillerBOSS> Interesting https://inteltechniques.com/data/workbook.pdf
02:31 < joelazot> ello
02:31 < MillerBOSS> GOOD BYE joelazot
02:32 < joelazot> ok
02:32 < MillerBOSS> Whats going on joelazot?
02:32 < joelazot> not much
02:32 < joelazot> having to deal with csc teacher
02:32 < joelazot> making us use shitty site
02:33 < joelazot> REEEE
02:33 < xamithan> Are you a frog now
02:33 < joelazot> yes
02:33 < rpifan> im a dog
02:33 < joelazot> oh nice
02:33 < MillerBOSS> What kind of shitty site joelazot?
02:34 < joelazot> 'codeavengers'
02:34 < rpifan> useful and useless
02:34 < joelazot> the most 'advanced' shit they have is python arrays
02:34 < joelazot> ...
02:34 < joelazot> KILL ME
02:34 < joelazot> JFC
02:36 < enix> I missed a shit tonne of renewals
02:36 < enix> fuck.
02:37 < joelazot> lmao it's blocked
02:37 < rpifan> so who is going to HOPE
02:37 < joelazot> kek
02:37 < rpifan> come on
02:38 < enix> wtf my domain coming up as expired but its not epxiring till 2020
02:42 < joelazot> enix: that's weird
02:42 < enix> I need to ge tthe fuck away from this supplier
02:42 < enix> I fucking hate them
02:43  * misspwn reminds self to buy enix 's domain
02:46 < enix> saves me paying for them
02:46 < AustinS> haxxed
02:47 < enix> I got to my domain and it's like "this domain expired 2020"
02:47 < enix> what the fuck
02:47 < AustinS> theyre so advanced theyre way in the future
02:47 < AustinS> obv
02:48 < AustinS> ok i should go.. i rebooted a serveryesterday and it never came back and i just shrugged it off but i need it now :P brb
02:49 < misspwn> hire rpifan as an intern to do it
02:50 < joelazot> kek
02:50 < rpifan> ill do it
02:51 < rpifan> i got no money
02:51 < AustinS> how fast u get to NY :p
02:51 < AustinS>  / CT
02:51 < joelazot> I'm bored
02:51 < rpifan> ill be there sunday actually
02:52 < AustinS> oh? anything fun or naw
02:52 < rpifan> to move to europe
02:53 < AustinS> oh thats right
02:53 < genr8_> congrats
02:53 < misspwn> rpifan, you got permits or visas for that?
02:53 < AustinS> well i need my server rebooted before sunday so I GUESSSS ill go do it brb bb :*
02:54 < rpifan>  nop
02:54 < rpifan> im going as an ilegal
02:54 < AustinS> ugh i really dont want to. I installed DHCP tho i wonder if i can find theeee right IP for it by guessing and rmeoting that way
02:54 < genr8_> youll be stuck in the airport then
02:54 < AustinS> wow
02:54 < AustinS> u know we build walls for people like u
02:55 < AustinS> lmao. jk <3
02:55 < enix> I am actually going to email my upstream guy and get a quot eon moving all of these domains because this is mental
02:55 < misspwn> no we try to build walls, we throw tantrums instead
02:56 < rpifan> im taking a ship
02:56 < AustinS> Jun 27 05:00:52 p6ops3 dnsmasq-dhcp[17319]: DHCPREQUEST(eth0) 10.20.70.218 90:b1:1c:34:fa:71
02:56 < AustinS> Jun 27 05:00:52 p6ops3 dnsmasq-dhcp[17319]: DHCPACK(eth0) 10.20.70.218 90:b1:1c:34:fa:71
02:56 < misspwn> tryin to dock in their port hayyy
02:56 < AustinS> woah it came back like 4 hrs after i rebooted then vanished again?? cool. hm
02:57 < rpifan> lol
02:57 < joelazot> fuck it imma read redhat docs in class
02:57 < joelazot> got nothing better to do
02:58 < genr8_> yea dont let school waste your time
02:58 < AustinS> eh fuck it i dont need that server tomorrow.
02:58 < AustinS> i dont wanna drive to other building lol
02:58 < AustinS> #RIP
02:59 < joelazot> hmm what specifically to learn with redhat docs tho
02:59 < joelazot> btw what are some good linux admin blogs
02:59 < joelazot>  / devops
03:00 < DLSteve> Who needs blogs/documentation! I had to decompile the jars for an IBM application just to see what it was doing as the docs were shit.
03:01 < joelazot> oh jeez
03:01 < DLSteve> IntelliJ is a godsend.
03:02 < xamithan> Blogs for what?  linux admin is a huuuuge range of things
03:02 < AustinS> yeah id just start googling on what area you wanna focus on
03:02 < rpifan> hire me
03:03 < nojeffrey> Anyone use https://www.crowdstrike.com/ for endpoint AV?
03:08 < misspwn> we use webroot
03:08 < misspwn> eset andthat
03:09 < joelazot> what's the point of setting domain names on a machine if they're not going to be joined to a domain?
03:09 < joelazot> e.g freeIPA or something rather
03:10 < misspwn> never know if that would change?
03:11 < xamithan> Whats the point of websites having domains since they aren't joined to AD ?
03:13 < joelazot> I'm asking a dumb question aren't I
03:14 < genr8_> if its not joined to the domain, its called the workgroup name anyway
03:14 < xamithan> They are called realms
03:16 < misspwn> i think i need to quit IT and open up a food truck or somethin
03:16 < genr8_> how bout both
03:16 < misspwn> that could work
03:17 < misspwn> made pesto grilled chicken and put that on ciabatta with more pesto, avocado, goat cheese, tomato and smashed it on the panini press
03:17 < misspwn> i am sofuckingfull and that was so good
03:21 < enix> best vnc client for linux?
03:26 < AustinS> not sure @ best, but i used tigervnc
03:26 < joelazot> Opinions on using web UI for management of stuff like freeIPA / kvm?
03:27 < xamithan> too easy,  just make your own scripts
03:28 < joelazot> true yeah
03:28 < joelazot> anyway
03:28 < joelazot> I'm off guys
03:28 < joelazot> cya
03:29 < enix> bye felciia
04:03 < MillerBOSS> @find windows 2003 server
04:03 < MillerBOSS> Whoops wrong channel
04:07 <@JollyRgrs> /kick MillerBOSS that's not allowed here
04:08 < MillerBOSS> I thought this was #reddit-warez
04:15 <@cryptic1> i am slightly more disturbed you were looking for server 2003
04:16 < MillerBOSS> Yeah 2003 3 in 1
04:16 < rootsudo> I guess after a month
04:16 < rootsudo> I can quit
04:17 < MillerBOSS> I am slightly disturbed that you think I was ackchyually searching for it.
04:17 < MillerBOSS> Whats after a month rootsudo ?
04:17 < rootsudo> I took a desk job for a mont
04:17 < MillerBOSS> What for?
04:18 < joelazot> Hi guys
04:18 < joelazot> am back
04:19 < joelazot> in scienec
04:19 <+A-KO> brbeeee
04:25 < Casteil> damn..
04:25 < Casteil> angular makes clientside apps easy as hell
04:25 < Casteil> particularly angular+material
04:35 < Church-> Yarp.
04:35 < rpifan_> sigh
04:35 < corn266> mhmm
04:35 < rpifan_> someone save me
04:35 < MillerBOSS> `cryptic1
04:35 < MillerBOSS> `cryptic1
04:35 < MillerBOSS> `cryptic1
04:36 < MillerBOSS> Hi
04:36 < corn266> MillerBOSS cryptic1 wanted to ban you cause layer8 got banned again
04:36 < joelazot> lol
04:36 < corn266> also it wasn't my fault
04:36 < MillerBOSS> Yes, I am in the dog house here outside.
04:37 < MillerBOSS> Who did it?
04:37 < corn266> um
04:37 < corn266> no one
04:37 < corn266> >.>
04:37 < MillerBOSS> <.<
04:37 < joelazot> kek
04:37 < corn266> it was an accident i swear
04:37 < rpifan_> well the bios updae on this machine has failed
04:37 < rpifan_> and now
04:37 < rpifan_> it is black
04:38 < rpifan_> and basically bricked
04:38 < corn266> wow fucking racist
04:38 < rpifan_> and fuck me
04:38 < rpifan_> what shall i do
04:38 < MillerBOSS> No, thanks
04:38 <@cryptic1> it was corn266's fault
04:38 < corn266> D: I just did `flip and it lost voice
04:38 <@cryptic1> see
04:38 < MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTFE8cirkdQ
04:38 <@cryptic1> was his fault
04:39 < Casteil> I blame canada
04:39 < MillerBOSS> Its black
04:39 < MillerBOSS> Its white
04:39 < MillerBOSS> You know it
04:39 < rpifan_> well
04:39 < rpifan_> any solutions
04:39 < corn266> the kid in the music video is a subtle nod to micheal jackson's peadophilia
04:39 < MillerBOSS> omg
04:40 < MillerBOSS> First of all thats Macaulay Culkin
04:40 < MillerBOSS> And I am pretty sure that was made up
04:40 < Casteil> god he looks creepy AF these days
04:40 < corn266> first of all look at him now https://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/ap_17221765492067.jpg?w=620
04:40 < corn266> also it was made up
04:41 < MillerBOSS> Sure look at Jim Carrey
04:41 < rpifan_> sigh
04:41 < MillerBOSS> People change. :)
04:41 < MillerBOSS> Grow hair, get old
04:41 < MillerBOSS> AND DIE
04:41 < MillerBOSS> ;)
04:41 < corn266> woah is that a threat MillerBOSS
04:42 < MillerBOSS> Woah
04:42 < MillerBOSS> Sure I will waste an hour on youtube.
04:42 < MillerBOSS> It doesn't matter corn266
04:42 < MillerBOSS> If you are black or white.
04:42 < corn266> oh i see
04:43 < corn266> as long as you're not Macaulay Culkin
04:43  * MillerBOSS nods
04:43 < MillerBOSS> Feel free to make shit up.
04:43 < MillerBOSS> :P
04:43  * corn266 finger guns
04:43 < MillerBOSS> We need a Michael Jackson in 2018
04:43 < MillerBOSS> Instead of these posers
04:44 < MillerBOSS> Bang bang
04:45 < corn266> I gotchu https://youtu.be/LusmDJK0ijY?t=129
04:45 < gnupluslinux> M I L L E R B O S S
04:45 < MillerBOSS> OK we need layer-eight back on before I click any links cryptic1. I don't want any of those viruses people talk about these days
04:45 < gnupluslinux> C O R N 2 6 6
04:45 < gnupluslinux> MillerBOSS, poo c
04:46 < MillerBOSS> I hear they can brick machines like rpifan_'s
04:46 < corn266> Title: "Doug Stamper (feat. Hannibal Buress)" Length: 4:48
04:46 < MillerBOSS> Infecting the BIOS
04:46 < gnupluslinux> that's only cause rpifan_ uses crappy arm
04:46 < MillerBOSS> I am still watching Black or White
04:46 < corn266> gnupluslinux what you want
04:46 < gnupluslinux> rest of us moved onto LEG
04:46 < corn266> baaaby i got it
04:47 < corn266> fuck you make us sound like clots
04:47 < gnupluslinux> #cloutgang
04:47 < gnupluslinux> #cloudgang
04:47 < MillerBOSS> #queergang
04:47 < corn266> #notmyc9
04:47 < gnupluslinux> lol corn266 is that the home alone kid
04:48 < gnupluslinux> yep
04:48 < corn266> ask MillerBOSS but yea I think so
04:48 < corn266> ayyy summer games done quick doin cuphead
04:48 < gnupluslinux> wait
04:48 < gnupluslinux> is that john goodman
04:48 < MillerBOSS> No
04:48 < MillerBOSS> Thats Norm
04:48 < MillerBOSS> lol
04:48 < corn266> norm na norm norm noorm
04:50 < MillerBOSS> OK so when you go to https://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/ap_17221765492067.jpg you are obviously getting the full image downloaded to the machine.
04:50 < MillerBOSS> When you go to https://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/ap_17221765492067.jpg?w=620 is that image downloaded to the browser made smaller on the server or only displayed smaller but same size in bytes?
04:50 < MillerBOSS> Riddle me this
04:50 < joelazot> I think i might give a ccna course a watch
04:51 < joelazot> brush up on my networking skills
04:51 < joelazot> never know what doors it might open :p
04:51 < MillerBOSS> So its server side https://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/ap_17221765492067.jpg?w=800 how is that done?
04:51 < gnupluslinux> check the url, it's serverside
04:52 < corn266> the ? makes me think a get or post which means there are multiple copies?
04:52 < MillerBOSS> You can change the number to what ever you want
04:52 < gnupluslinux> aye
04:52 < MillerBOSS> https://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/ap_17221765492067.jpg?w=666
04:52 < MillerBOSS> The images changes size accordingly
04:53 < corn266> .shrug
04:53 < corn266> damn it
04:53 < corn266> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ what's the answer daddy
04:54 < MillerBOSS> https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-06-27-21-54-00-c.png
04:54 < MillerBOSS> https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-06-27-21-54-15-x.png
04:55 < corn266> i still don't know the answer
04:55 < DrGibby|> WELL I'M A FUCKING IDIOT BY LOCKING MYSELF OUT OF SSH ON THE ROUTER I WAS CONFIGURING
04:55 < DrGibby|> FUCK
04:55 < joelazot> AYY LMAO
04:55 < corn266> damn DrGibby| just do an emergency reset
04:55 < DrGibby|> its been a comedy of errors around here
04:55 < DrGibby|> corn266: and still be locked out?
04:55 < gnupluslinux> serial in?
04:55 < DrGibby|> I fub'd the vty
04:55 < joelazot> I've wondered why i couldn't ssh into my KVM host when i changed my network config
04:56 < joelazot> i was so confused
04:56 < MillerBOSS> Something on the server because I can't do it with my set up. https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-06-27-21-55-34-9.png?w=250
04:56 < DrGibby|> gnupluslinux: that means going downstairs :(
04:56 < corn266> emergency reset does a software reset so you can re-upload the firmware
04:56 < joelazot> i was tired at the time mind you
04:56 < DrGibby|> why would I do an emergency reset when I can console in?
04:56 < corn266> do what you want, i was trying to help
04:57 < MadCamel> if wedging is possible always have a plan to unwedge. most routers have a procedure to test a config with a timed rollback to the previous config.
04:57 < DrGibby|> I mean, thats like saying nuke a windows install because someone changed a user password
04:57  * DrGibby| shrugs
04:57 <@cryptic1> you don't do that?
04:58 < enix> I'd do that
04:58 <@cryptic1> reimage after every password change
04:58 < gnupluslinux> MillerBOSS, ?w=# passes args to server to do magicka then feed you back der resulting
04:58 < enix> It's the only way to be 100% secure cryptic1
04:58 < Ainsey> Not sure how I ended up in quarantine
04:58  * Ainsey shrugs
04:59 < gnupluslinux> cause u fucking ainsey
04:59 < MillerBOSS> gnupluslinux 👉 but what on the server needs to be configured doe that to happen?
04:59 < Ainsey> anyone have expirience with preseed files?
04:59 < MadCamel> hate ending up in there
04:59 < Ainsey> gnupluslinux: love you too bby
04:59 <@cryptic1> Ainsey, probably not identified with nickserv
04:59 < MillerBOSS> s/doe/for
04:59 < enix> hang the fuck on
04:59 < Ainsey> cryptic1: aaah that may be why, I did drop auth when I went on vacation
04:59 < enix> List to this shit
04:59 < enix> guys
04:59 < gnupluslinux> MillerBOSS, java, python, .net some kind of backend behind the http server
04:59 < enix> listen
04:59 < enix> On my C:\ drive, if I log in with UserA I can see this folder called "Documents and Settings"
04:59 < gnupluslinux> user -> internets -> http server -> backend image processing service
05:00 < enix> But if I log in with UserB (which is admin), I can not see it.......
05:00 < Ainsey> That sounds like windows xp enix...
05:00 < enix> It's Windows 7 so I think Documents and Settings is some legacy store of information
05:00 < Ainsey> enix: enable show hidden files and folders in explorer folder options
05:00 < corn266> ctrl+h on a per user preference?
05:00 < Ainsey> userA will have it enabled, B won;t
05:01 < enix> Doesnt re-appear with 'show hidden'
05:01 < Ainsey> permissions then
05:01 < corn266> permission settings?
05:01 < MillerBOSS> I wonder if WordPress is doing that but I'm not so sure, gnupluslinux
05:01 < enix> UserA doesn't have permissions to it, but I can check permissions and UserB does via the Administrators group
05:01 < gnupluslinux> how do yall handle user ssh keys? 1 key per user/node or 1 key per user stored centrally
05:01 < Ainsey> not often I come in here, any linux nerds around? need some help with pxe+preseed+chef-agent installation
05:01 < Ainsey> gnupluslinux: one key per user per node
05:02 < enix> Ainsey: I may be able to help but not sure
05:02 < gnupluslinux> MillerBOSS, possibly. i wouldn't doubt there's some plugin for image resizing. any number of those floating around
05:02 < Ainsey> enix: I have a script that does the agent install, but I get strange behaviour because cron dir's don't exist yet (as it's before the reboot)
05:03 < Ainsey> so I was looking for a way to run the script on first boot, it's ubuntu 16 so rc.local doesn't exist yet
05:03 < enix> Oh ubuntu
05:03 < enix> How are you running the script atm sorry
05:03 < enix> is it like debians answer to kickstart?
05:03 < Ainsey> in-target in the preseed
05:04 < MillerBOSS> gnupluslinux 👉 Looks like a service https://docs.sitefinity.com/administration-resize-images-through-the-url
05:04 < Ainsey> enix: http://paste.ainsey11.com/view/8a7c40cf
05:05 < gnupluslinux> MillerBOSS, yeah that'd do it
05:05 < MillerBOSS> https://docs.imgix.com/apis/url/size/w
05:05 < MillerBOSS> That shit ain't cheap
05:06 < Ainsey> enix: was kind of following what this guy did > http://www.jjclements.co.uk/2015/10/28/ubuntu-preseed-script-to-install-chef-client-agent/
05:06 < Ainsey> but the /etc/cron.d/ doesn't exist until the reboot
05:06 < enix> Not too sure with ubuntu preseed sorry
05:06 < Ainsey> nw, thanks anyway
05:06 < Ainsey> bit stumped
05:06 < enix> From memory with kickstart though; I downloaded the install script from the installation media (I had a hacked centos I made)
05:07 < enix> Then I set that script to run on next boot. the script self-killed itself if it finished without error
05:07 < MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AjkUyX0rVw
05:07 < Ainsey> yeah, thats my plan, it's just how to do the run on boot bit
05:07 < Ainsey> rc.local doesn't exist, nor does cron
05:07 < MillerBOSS> WE ARE THE WOOOORLD  WE ARE THE FUTURE
05:07 < DrGibby|> I'm still battling this fucking service model
05:08 < MillerBOSS> Slap yourself first DrGibby|
05:08 < enix> Ainsey: pop it into /etc/init.d?
05:08 < gnupluslinux> MillerBOSS, there's probably any number of open source things you can use. user -> internet -> nginx reverse proxy -> image resize service
05:08 < DrGibby|> I've done that several times
05:08 < enix> then update-rc.d <scriptname> defaults
05:08 < gnupluslinux> pull all images from the reverse proxy'd service
05:08 < enix> i think
05:08 < enix> https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/8734/execute-script-on-start-up
05:08 < Ainsey> worth a go
05:08 < gnupluslinux> https://millerboss.com/api/image/myimage.jpg?w=123
05:08 < MillerBOSS> Yeah you are probably right gnupluslinux
05:09 < enix> Ainsey: iirc that's very roughly how I did it, except I adjusted an already registered script... because I was very new to linux
05:09 < DrGibby|> I need to pick a Cisco VoIP guys head for about an hour
05:09 < DrGibby|> But I don't know anyone
05:09 < gnupluslinux> call it imagestore.millerboss.com or something and pull from there lol
05:09 < Ainsey> yeah, I'll commit that in and give it a test
05:09 < Ainsey> sounds like it could work
05:09 < DrGibby|> Or if I do I don't want to talk to them
05:09 < enix> it was literally my first linux position I held, had fuck all knowledge before going in, and the CEO is like "we need a custom, self-installing, self-configuring linux distro that requires zero user input"
05:10 < MillerBOSS> OK DTN, gnupluslinux thanks :)
05:10 < gnupluslinux> did he want it to wipe his ass too while it was at it?
05:10 < Ainsey> enix: thats pretty much what I'm trying to do haha, enter hostname and let it do its thing
05:10 < joelazot> oh jeez
05:10 < Ainsey> plan is to do a few api calls and auto add to monitoring too
05:10 < joelazot> im off
05:10 < MadCamel> there's a million ways to do that, why roll your own other than for the experience?
05:10 < joelazot> cya
05:10 < gnupluslinux> cya
05:10 < DrGibby|> Just put it in the cloud
05:11 < Ainsey> MadCamel: Home lab, so for shits and giggles and for expirience
05:11 < MadCamel> cool
05:11 < enix> MadCamel: this was ~2009, so Puppet was in it's infancy. I remember I looked into it at the time and documentation was near-non-existant
05:11 < MillerBOSS> But who's cloud, DrGibby|?
05:11 < gnupluslinux> da experience
05:11 < enix> MadCamel: We had EXTREMELY specific hardware we installed to, which had extremely controlled peripherals
05:12 < gnupluslinux> enix, manufacturing?
05:12 < enix> IE it was always one of three models of netbook, always with one of two models of USB NICs, and always had the exact same wifi controller from memory
05:12 < DrGibby|> MillerBOSS: *the* cloud
05:12 < DrGibby|> the big one
05:12 < enix> Nah hotspots
05:12 < MillerBOSS> Where is it?
05:12 < DrGibby|> the sky
05:12 < DrGibby|> duh
05:12 < MillerBOSS> Is it under something?
05:12 < enix> So on-site tech in the area would be sent the components, a diagram, and a usb installer. All he had to do was plug everything in, boot off usb, wait 20 minutes, then walk away
05:13 < DrGibby|> presumably-- as are most things on this planet
05:13 < MillerBOSS> DoctorDick 👉 Are you using Google Compute to get that hostname?
05:14 < DrGibby|> no, I use /dev/random
05:14 < corn266> DrGibby| uses /dev/urandom
05:14 < DrGibby|> NO
05:14 < enix> I am actually extremely proud of my WifiOS :) I wish I still had the source
05:14 < DrGibby|> I USE /dev/random
05:14 < DrGibby|> !!
05:14 < gnupluslinux> cat /dev/urandom | hd | pv -L 1k
05:14 < gnupluslinux> or whatever that command was
05:15 < MadCamel> do what ya gotta. Hell, I once setup a netboot environment where the webservers all ran diskless and from RAM. debian + nfs root + aufs + rdist/git for the web data. Was super handy not having to worry about installing boxes to scale. Plug in a new one, add mac address to dhcp server, turn it on.
05:16 < gnupluslinux> diskless enviros scare the shit outa me
05:16 < enix> MadCamel: that's actually really cool
05:16 < gnupluslinux> always worried some dumbass didnt do the piping right and have a short in some ass crack corner of the building kill power
05:17 < MillerBOSS> Serverless diskless ramless. THIS IS THE FUTURE
05:17 < DrGibby|> cloudless
05:17 < MillerBOSS> CLOUDLESS
05:17 < MillerBOSS> OMG
05:18 < DrGibby|> GET OUT OF MY HEAD MILLERCUNT
05:18 < gnupluslinux> soon we wont even have computers
05:18 < MillerBOSS> JINX
05:18 < gnupluslinux> and we'll just use people for everything
05:18 < gnupluslinux> waitaminit
05:18 < MillerBOSS> LMAO
05:18 < MillerBOSS> CAPS IS BROKe
05:18 < MillerBOSS> Powerless, wireless, wowless
05:19 < DrGibby|> ITless
05:19 < DrGibby|> (thank god)
05:19 < MillerBOSS> Cuntless
05:19 < DrGibby|> IOTEVERYTHING!
05:19 < MadCamel> if it's a fixed-purpose setup that you're making diskless and you use an overlay filesystem to direct writes to ram the main nfs server can go out to lunch with little ill effects. Once it's been running a while everything important is already sitting in the read cache so it can keep on truckin'
05:19 < MillerBOSS> THE FUTURE I∞T
05:19 < DrGibby|> teehee I read diskless as dickless
05:19 < MillerBOSS> Of course you would
05:20 < DrGibby|> hush, you
05:22 < MillerBOSS> Yes I will WOOOOOOOOOO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yURRmWtbTbo 🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼😄🎶🎉🎶🎉🎶🎉🎶🎉🎶👍🎵🔊🔊🔊🔊🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼
05:22 < corn266> sorry MillerBOSS if layer-eight isn't online then I won't click a link
05:23 < MillerBOSS> That is a good choice.
05:24 <@Nostalg14c> Hallo.
05:24 < MillerBOSS> corn266 👉 Just don't stop 'til you get enough.
05:26 < corn266> jfc MillerBOSS are you actually MJ in disguise? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yURRmWtbTbo
05:26 < corn266> wait that's the same url
05:27 < MillerBOSS> Dum dum
05:29 < MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X-Mrc2l1d0
05:29 < MillerBOSS> I'll help you
05:29 < corn266> ffs MillerBOSS just watch some https://www.twitch.tv/gamesdonequick and be happy
05:30 < MillerBOSS> That a a whole room fulll of nerds watching a game?
05:30 < corn266> yea how are you not there?
05:30 < MillerBOSS> You got me
05:31 < MillerBOSS> This is like bowling in the 90s on ABC
05:31 < corn266> have you not heard of cuphead?
05:33 < AustinS> oh boy its gonna be one of these nights @ sleep again lol
05:33 < MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmB46kXKyMU
05:33 < corn266> just cause you @ sleep doesn't mean it'll respond
05:33 < AustinS> :( but she should!
05:33 < MillerBOSS> Yeah I did on Windows Weekly Paul talked about it last year I think corn266
05:33 < MillerBOSS> All nighter AustinS?
05:34 < corn266> it's just impressive cause they're speed running the game MillerBOSS
05:34 < AustinS> yeah, last one!
05:34 < corn266> gz AustinS
05:34 < AustinS> if i can make it thru lol. which means im gonna be doing the deployment on completely empty lol
05:34 < MillerBOSS> How is it the last one?
05:34 < AustinS> cause all the stressful shit goes out and is done today
05:35 < AustinS> well, last one this week* :) lol
05:35 < MillerBOSS> OK that makes sense
05:35 < AustinS> or for a few weeks. cause i'll be off for a week soon to go finish moving stuff..
05:35 < MillerBOSS> I am tempted to do the same tonight
05:35 < AustinS> and we have a giant company wide .. live video stream of execs talking about updates "town hall" stuff
05:35 < AustinS> so had to do this massive setup upstairs for it.. its way overkill, took over the whole cafeteria lol
05:35 < MillerBOSS> corn266 👉 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbkqKPZbwYE
05:36 < MillerBOSS> 1936
05:36 < AustinS> brb
05:36 < MillerBOSS> AFK
05:36 < iluik> What's the name of that website where you can browse inspiration for different html elements?
05:36 < corn266> MillerBOSS I don't understand why you're so adament on showing me the style of video game the devs attempted to develop
05:37 < corn266> it was the early 19xx's style in a 2017 video game
05:37 < MillerBOSS> Thats what it reminded me of. I had no idea that is what the devs did, plus how is that adamant, Mister?
05:38 < enix> Just wrote a task list using python. It's pretty fun
05:38 < enix> I missed this life... making scripts and owning everything
05:38 < AustinS> Your requested instance type (c5.2xlarge) is not supported in your requested Availability Zone (us-east-1e).
05:38 < AustinS> welp guess im not resizing our 3 instances to the same thing for testnig lol
05:38 < corn266> MillerBOSS that's what it was meant to remind you of, they hand drew all of the graphics in that style
05:38 < enix> Well fun.. that folder I can't find that I mentioned? I get a permissions denied...
05:39 < MillerBOSS> Well it worked, corn266
05:39  * MillerBOSS rolls eyes
05:39 < MillerBOSS> :P
05:39 < corn266> bruh
05:40 < AustinS> but c5.4xl is supported, mk
05:40 < MillerBOSS> Here we go
05:40 < AustinS> oh wait jk i didnt try to start. no its not
05:40 < MillerBOSS> AustinS 👉 maybe a nap first?
05:40 < corn266> MillerBOSS *inhales*
05:40 < MillerBOSS> LMAO
05:40 < coderphive> ree
05:41 < AustinS> i got a little one in earlier already, and probably will in a few hours too since i'll go home to shower n stuff
05:41 < AustinS> my giant ass TV i ordered said delivery Jul 9-10, and all the sudden now its tomorrow
05:41 < AustinS> between 9am-noon, so I'll be going home for that too (yayyy)
05:41 < corn266> nice AustinS
05:45 < AustinS> and im really gonna go reboot that server for real now MillerBOSS :P be back in 20-30 prolly
05:45 < corn266> is taco bell doing that same "breakfast in the morning only" shit?
05:45 < MillerBOSS> Dooo it
05:45 < AustinS> i hope not :| mcdonalds finally got rid of that shit
05:45 < corn266> DO IT DO IT DO IT
05:46 < enix> hahahaha
05:46 < enix> msexchange.me
05:47 < corn266> enix tell us brother, do you identify as an apache attack helicopter?
05:50 < AustinS> k bbs :*
05:52 < MillerBOSS> afk bbe
05:55 <@Nostalg14c> Yo,
05:55 <@Nostalg14c> Question.
05:56 <@Nostalg14c> Many years ago.
05:56 < corn266> Answer
05:56 <@Nostalg14c> Some dude wrote a tool/GUI that like pretended to do shit on users machines
05:56 <@Nostalg14c> like defragging and shit, just to he could pretend to be speeding shit up
05:56 <@Nostalg14c> so they'd think its faster.
05:56 <@Nostalg14c> Can anyone remember a link to the post
05:56 < MillerBOSS> lol pretended
05:57 <@Nostalg14c> Yeah like fake progress of defragging and shiz
05:57 <@Nostalg14c> it was a masterpie,.ce
05:57 <@Nostalg14c> masterpiece.
05:57 < MillerBOSS> I prefer masterpie,.ce
05:57 < DrGibby|> I can't believe I've resorted to posting on the cisco help forums :(
05:57 < DrGibby|> I've admitted defeat
05:58  * DrGibby| sobs
05:58 <@JollyRgrs> DrGibby|: at least you didn't come crawling back into a channel you hate to ask for help :P
05:58 < DrGibby|> I asked in Cisco 3 times
05:58 < DrGibby|> no one helped
05:59 <@JollyRgrs> how many times in here?
05:59 < DrGibby|> 2 or 3
05:59 <@JollyRgrs> but you didn't ask me
05:59 <@JollyRgrs> i took a few intro cisco classes back in like 2004... i'd totally know the answer
06:00 < DrGibby|> heh
06:00 <@Nostalg14c> me too.
06:00 <@Nostalg14c> more like 2010 though.
06:00 <@Nostalg14c> and got my ccna, woo.
06:01 < DrGibby|> I need a VoIP pro
06:01 <@Nostalg14c> rip
06:01 <@Nostalg14c> gl hlf
06:02 < DrGibby|> someone who has some SR and CUE chops pref
06:02 < DrGibby|> :(
06:04 < monoxane> anyone ever used Brocade Mobility WLAN gear?
06:04 <@JollyRgrs> nah brah, no brahcade here... sorry, can't help ya brah
06:05 < monoxane> im just trying to work out if the controller is 100% necessary, some documentation says 'semi-autonomous' and some says 'controller based'
06:05 < monoxane> but theres only 1 model number for the WAPs
06:06  * DrGibby| shrugs
06:07 <@JollyRgrs> lol
06:07 <@JollyRgrs> for home or work?
06:08 < DrGibby|> who me?
06:08 <@JollyRgrs> monoxane
06:08 < monoxane> home lol
06:08 < DrGibby|> oh
06:08 <@JollyRgrs> oh, pretend you are for work and talk to brocade directly
06:08 <@JollyRgrs> also, why not unifi WAP?
06:08 <@JollyRgrs> just curious
06:08 < monoxane> its cheaper to buy 10 Brocade Mobility 1240's than 2 UBNT waps
06:09 < monoxane> even though the UBNTs are AC and the Brocades are N
06:09 <@JollyRgrs> how much are they? $20?
06:09 < monoxane> $300 for 10
06:09 < monoxane> on ebay
06:09 <@JollyRgrs> why do you need 10?
06:09 < monoxane> i dont
06:09 <@JollyRgrs> 10 radios are not as good as 2, always
06:09 < monoxane> but having 10 would let me sell 5 and use the other 5 for roaming lab
06:09 <@JollyRgrs> if you're gonna use 1... compare 9 wasted vs none wasted?
06:09 <@JollyRgrs> lol
06:10 < monoxane> and have a free lab basically
06:10 < DrGibby|> why not get like 3 AIR-LAP1262N-A-K9's for the same price and 1/100th the suck?
06:10 < monoxane> this is also a logical solution
06:10  * monoxane consults ebay
06:11 < monoxane> huh heres 5 AIR-CAP3502P-A-K9s for $200
06:11 < DrGibby|> I got one for $70
06:11 < DrGibby|> so...
06:12 < monoxane> the other option is a FortiAP, ive got a fortunate that'll run 2 of them
06:12 < monoxane> but I cant find many on ebay
06:12 < MillerBOSS> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cisco-Aironet-AIR-LAP1262N-A-K9-802-11a-b-g-n-Wireless-Access-Point/202348526867 $30 shipped
06:12 < monoxane> australialand though
06:13 < MillerBOSS> Just use cups and a string. So much better and longer distance with zero interference.
06:13 < DrGibby|> also, aussies are used to yelling
06:13 < DrGibby|> so I mean... nothing is lost
06:13 < MillerBOSS> I hear you can transfer 1.3Gbps
06:13 < monoxane> in other news for anyone in the entertainment industry, dante level 3 certification course just became available
06:13 < monoxane> its basically CCNA
06:13 < MillerBOSS> But you need to run 3 strings
06:14 < monoxane> with dante specific things added
06:14 < MillerBOSS> Nostalg14c 👉 Maybe just this https://i.redd.it/gjkr00394aay.jpg ?
06:15 < monoxane> fuck it UBNT it is
06:15 <@Nostalg14c> MillerBOSS: no sir
06:15 <@Nostalg14c> it was a windows application
06:15 < monoxane> i was gonna be all enterprisy to match the rest of my lab
06:15 < MillerBOSS> I know :P Nostalg14c Just messing
06:17 <@Nostalg14c> :(
06:18 < MadCamel> hm. mount high power wifi on car and send beacon frames from random ssids and mac addresses. let's really confuse those wifi location systems.
06:19 < MadCamel> or, even better, use the wigle.net database to send beacon frames from *known* access points that are half a country away. Hmmmmm..
06:22 < monoxane> UBNT AC-Pro, AC-LR or AC-Lite
06:22 < monoxane> ?
06:22 < monoxane> apparently only the AC Pro supports standard POE
06:26 < MillerBOSS> They usually come with the proper adapter for that rat a tat tat monoxane
06:27 < MillerBOSS> DrGibby| 👉 !!!!!111
06:27 < monoxane> yea but i have a POE switch
06:27 < DrGibby|> MillerBOSS: what?
06:28 < MillerBOSS> I don't have a wide range of experience with switches monoxane but the EdgeSwitches allow you to change from standard to 24V I think it is
06:28 < MillerBOSS> DrGibby| 👉 Hi
06:28 < DrGibby|> Hi
06:28 <@JollyRgrs> MillerBOSS: not everyone pairs up ubnt WAPs with ubnt switches
06:28 < monoxane> i already have a POE switch, im not buying a new one for a WAP
06:28 < MillerBOSS> What are you doing?
06:28 <@JollyRgrs> monoxane: that was one thing that bothered me, too... but they did have decent logic behind why they did it
06:28 < monoxane> my fancy ass extreme networks summit switches are af/at poe
06:28 < MillerBOSS> I mean JollyRgrs I can only assume POE switches let you change the voltage. I am not sure
06:29 <@JollyRgrs> MillerBOSS: not as easy as that
06:29 < monoxane> and only the AC-Pro is af compatable
06:29 <@JollyRgrs> and i really have nfc... i've not ever even logged onto a PoE capable switch before
06:29 < DrGibby|> isn't PoE a standard?
06:29 <@JollyRgrs> DrGibby|: "kinda"
06:29 < DrGibby|> I mean, to supply a certain voltage at least
06:30 < monoxane> yes
06:30  * DrGibby| checks RFCs
06:30 < MillerBOSS> Or get https://www.amazon.com/WiFi-Texas-WS-POE-8-ENC-Injector-Ethernet-INCLUDED/dp/B0075F7F2O/
06:30 < monoxane> 802.3af and 802.3at are the POE standard
06:30 < MillerBOSS> If your switch can't supply what the WAP needs
06:31 < monoxane> cisco has a retarded prestandard and UBNT has the retarded 24v passive
06:31 < DrGibby|> ah, they're not RFC's
06:31 <@JollyRgrs> DrGibby|: that's what 802.3af is... but ubnt isn't that, except for pro
06:31 < MillerBOSS> Also https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=WiFi-Texas The hard ware is good
06:31 < DrGibby|> they're IEEE's
06:31 < monoxane> JollyRgrs okay so AC-Pro are .3af?
06:31 <@JollyRgrs> iirc, yes
06:31 < MillerBOSS> But you are an OPP
06:32 <@JollyRgrs> i'm not down with opp
06:32 < monoxane> kk
06:32  * monoxane pokes that buy button
06:32  * monoxane watches $200 drain from his bank account
06:32 < monoxane> gotta love australia :|
06:32 < MillerBOSS> Just move out, man
06:32 <@JollyRgrs> how to least intrusively block bittorrent from my bro-in-law's computer?
06:33 < monoxane> block everything except 53, 80, and 443 for him
06:33 <@JollyRgrs> monoxane: he's gonna spend the whole week here playing Ark Evolved right next to his wife
06:33 <@JollyRgrs> it'll be a sad week
06:33 <@Nostalg14c> Move him to a shaped vlan of 256/56
06:33 < monoxane> ^
06:33 < DrGibby|> even at isn't that crazy. Only 25.5W
06:33 < monoxane> i did that to my brother
06:33 <@JollyRgrs> see... i'm not so network smart
06:34 <@JollyRgrs> what's that mean, Nostalg14c?
06:34 < monoxane> he was screaming at fortinet so i dumped him on a traffic shaper for 100kbps
06:34 <@Nostalg14c> Threaten him with a weapon.
06:34 < monoxane> shared between all his devices too
06:34 < monoxane> so youtube on his phone made fortinet on his desktop worse
06:34 < monoxane> fortigate++
06:34 < DrGibby|> you must have some shit fortigates if thats what caused it
06:35 < MillerBOSS> monoxane 👉 I just got my 6 60Es and 200E
06:35 < monoxane> MillerBOSS neato
06:35 < MillerBOSS> I am overwhelmed to get started
06:35 < monoxane> wanna give me a 60e? :P
06:35 < monoxane> DrGibby| wat?
06:35 < monoxane> i put him on a traffic shaper
06:35 < DrGibby|> OOOOOOOH
06:35 < monoxane> the fortigate wasn't the issue
06:35 < DrGibby|> nvm
06:35 < MillerBOSS> Sure when I upgrade in the future
06:35 < DrGibby|> misread
06:35 < monoxane> lol
06:36 < DrGibby|> we have a pair of 100Ds in our DC iirc
06:36 < monoxane> im gonna get work on a 60E
06:36 < MillerBOSS> I'll have some  	TZ 205 wireless-N
06:36 < monoxane> currently have a shit consumer WAP/Router/Modem
06:36 < MillerBOSS> Those are being replaced by the 60Es
06:36 < MillerBOSS> I am done with SonicWALL
06:37 < DrGibby|> ye, sonicwall was ok in the 90s/early 2000's prior to dell buying them
06:37 < monoxane> apparently sonicwall is shit
06:38 < MillerBOSS> I had em before Dell bought, while Dell owned, and after Dell owned. I was in the lower models but not muted changed until the last year or so.
06:38 < MillerBOSS> Dell owned em I would say 3-4 years maybe
06:38 < MillerBOSS> Right?
06:38  * DrGibby| shrugs
06:38 < DrGibby|> I know I run into a LOT of sonicwall shit during pentests
06:38 < MillerBOSS> 2012: On March 13, 2012, Dell announced that they had signed a definitive agreement to acquire SonicWall
06:39 < MillerBOSS> 2016: On May 20, 2016, Dell announced the sale of Dell Software (which included SonicWall) to private equity firm Francisco Partners and Elliott Management.[6]
06:39 < DrGibby|> and by run in, I mean completely bypass for the most part
06:39 < MillerBOSS> I mean they do the job. I like the interface but there is still room for improvement.
06:40 < MillerBOSS> Well do a job but not the job, depending on what you are after I guess
06:40 < DrGibby|> tbh, I'll always be a Cisco fanboy
06:40 <@JollyRgrs> dangit
06:40 < MillerBOSS> And I will always be a DrGibby| fangirl
06:40 <@JollyRgrs> so a few years ago pfsense removed layer7 firewall rules
06:41 <@JollyRgrs> suggestions?
06:41 < DrGibby|> at least Routing/Switching/Wifi
06:41 < corn266> JollyRgrs I flew to CO and you never met up at the motel 6 for some succ
06:41 <@JollyRgrs> sorry corn266, but you didn't pay for my plane ticket
06:41 < DrGibby|> JollyRgrs: snort
06:41 < corn266> wait someone in here lives in CO and didn't meet for some succ
06:42 <@JollyRgrs> DrGibby|: that's what they said to use in replacement of... that just seems so cumbersome for what i need
06:42 <@JollyRgrs> corn266: yeah, not me dawg
06:42 < DrGibby|> snort is what the NSA uses
06:42 < DrGibby|> I mean..
06:42 < DrGibby|> yeah it can be, but its really great
06:42 <@JollyRgrs> i have nothing against snort, cept i think i already have some CPU/nic issues in pfsense
06:42 < DrGibby|> otherwise drop in security onion or BRO
06:43 < DrGibby|> or the entire ELK stack
06:43 <@JollyRgrs> even turning on darkstat or bandwidthd.... ntopng... they all take my WAN bandwidth down from 940Mbps to like 300 Mbps
06:43 <@JollyRgrs> snort is bad for that, too
06:43 < DrGibby|> sounds like its upgrade time
06:43 <@JollyRgrs> the kernel em1 que lights up the cpu
06:43 <@JollyRgrs> R710
06:43 < DrGibby|> or go dedicated hardware
06:44 <@JollyRgrs> i think there's some issue, not getting all the stuff out of it that i need
06:44 <@JollyRgrs> i'd love to... you wanna donate?
06:44 < MillerBOSS> What do you need?
06:44 < DrGibby|> JollyRgrs: sure. I have a fucking SM-SRE-700 you can fucking have
06:44 < MillerBOSS> I got old desktops
06:44 <@JollyRgrs> DrGibby|: lol
06:44 < DrGibby|> god damn piece of shit
06:44 <@JollyRgrs> yeah, i got a few... i'd just need to get a 2nd gigabit NIC
06:44 < MillerBOSS> Free, you pay shipping JollyRgrs
06:44 <@JollyRgrs> but i'd rather have rackmount just to keep things pretty
06:45 < DrGibby|> ur pretty
06:45 <@JollyRgrs> i some some dell optiplex 9010 units sitting here i think
06:45 <@JollyRgrs> and an USFF... maybe a 980
06:45 < corn266> damn JollyRgrs send a couple my way
06:45 < DrGibby|> JollyRgrs: why not go dedicated hardware
06:45 < gnupluslinux> dedotated hudwere
06:45 < corn266> waaaaaaam
06:46 <@JollyRgrs> DrGibby|: b/c i had the r710, that'd be a better solution to use a VM on that than to have yet ANOTHER device running and sucking power (which means more heat and less time on UPS)
06:46 <@JollyRgrs> but i'm not opposed
06:46 < DrGibby|> what do you need out of a rooter?
06:46 <@JollyRgrs> but i just need to get a low profile Gbe NIC
06:48 < MillerBOSS> Wow these are neat. https://imgur.com/gallery/Sm4VMXE Check the galleries at the bottom of the post for many more
06:49 < DrGibby|> thats the most spammy link I've seen in here for a long time
06:49 < DrGibby|> WOW THIS IS COOL, BE SURE TO CHECK OUT http[:]//whatever.com/THISISCOOL/virus[.]exe
06:49 < MillerBOSS> But I am eating spam
06:50 < DrGibby|> nothing wrong with that
06:50 < MillerBOSS> Thank you for your thoughts though DrGibby|
06:50 < MillerBOSS> You are the best in my books. :*
06:50  * DrGibby| pees on MillerBOSS 
06:50 < enix> PENIS
06:51 < MillerBOSS> Plus that link was for everyone but DrGibby|, so THERE
06:51 < enix> DrGibby|: I got 404 :(
06:51 < MillerBOSS> Ha ha
06:51  * DrGibby| continues to pee on MillerBOSS 
06:52 < MillerBOSS> Like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiZaMnMN6YQ ?
06:52 < corn266> DrGibby| we're more sophisticated than R.Kelly. in here
06:53 < DrGibby|> Yo body is a portopotty
06:53 < corn266> "what kind of god would put the entertainment center next to the port-o-potty"
06:55 < MillerBOSS> JollyRgrs 👉 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883218075&ignorebbr=1
06:55 < enix> whats bbr and should i ignore it?
06:55 < enix> MillerBOSS:
06:56 < MillerBOSS> Yes 1 time
06:56 < enix> arigato
06:56 <@JollyRgrs> mbut taht's not a 1u case :P
06:56 < MillerBOSS> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883218075&ignoreenix-1time
06:56 < MillerBOSS> There enix
06:56 <@JollyRgrs> i take that back, my USFF is a 9010
06:57 < MillerBOSS> OK JollyRgrs take a 1U server. Take everything out of it. Put that little machine in it. Call it a day
06:57 <@JollyRgrs> lol
06:57 < MillerBOSS> :)
06:57 < MillerBOSS> Do it. I know you want to
06:58 <@JollyRgrs> i5-3570 (quad 3.1ghz), at least 4gb ram
06:58 < MillerBOSS> For pfSense?
06:58 <@JollyRgrs> and for the usff, no pci slots... so i'd have to use usb to ethernet adapter
06:58 < DrGibby|> or buy a recent EOL router, pirate the shit out of the IOS and security stuff for free
06:58 <@JollyRgrs> MillerBOSS: yeah
06:58 <@JollyRgrs> shouldbe plenty fine, i know
06:59 < MillerBOSS> pfSense will find USB to Ethernet. I did it before
06:59 < DrGibby|> its sad when I have a better enterprise network than 99% at home compared to the people I support
06:59 < DrGibby|> err
07:00 < DrGibby|> enterprise network at home than 99% of the people I support at work
07:00 < DrGibby|> EVEN WITH MY BROKEN ASS SM-SRE-700
07:00 < MillerBOSS> Exactly this JollyRgrs https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Portable-Aluminum-Ethernet-Supporting/dp/B00PC0H9IE Anker makes some good shit
07:00 < DrGibby|> FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT
07:00 < MillerBOSS> DrGibby| 👉 Do you need an adult?
07:00 <@JollyRgrs> MillerBOSS: i just left a really good review on a usb cable for them
07:01 <@JollyRgrs> the one i plug my DS4 controller into to charge... the little "grip" pins went flat... cable was slipping out... about 11-12 months ago
07:01 <@JollyRgrs> (was purchaseD)
07:01 < MillerBOSS> https://www.amazon.com/Anker-A7516011-Macbook-Surface-Notebook/dp/B00XMD7KP I buy these all the time for work
07:01 < DrGibby|> I need a cisco certified voice expert :(
07:01 <@JollyRgrs> 18 mo. warranty, i just emailed and said "hey, no worky" they said "email pic of cable and send serial number that is printed on the rubber... we'll send new one, u keep old one"
07:01 <@JollyRgrs> 2 days later, new cable
07:02 < DrGibby|> oh joy: It's that time of year when we play my favorite game "were those gunshots or fireworks?"!
07:02 <@JollyRgrs> lol
07:02  * DrGibby| plays theme music
07:02 < corn266> spongebob theme is copyrighted DrGibby|
07:03 < MillerBOSS> Thats awesome JollyRgrs
07:03 < DrGibby|> corn266: this is it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uczvgWb-nP8
07:03 <@JollyRgrs> and srsly, so nice to chat with in email
07:03 <@JollyRgrs> i actually WANTED to leave a review b4 they even asked
07:03 <@JollyRgrs> but they asked oh so nicely
07:04 < MillerBOSS> DrGibby| 👉 Try https://networktocode.herokuapp.com/
07:04 < MillerBOSS> Per https://old.reddit.com/r/Cisco/comments/5ey09l/networking_slack_group/
07:04 < DrGibby|> da fuq is this shit?
07:04 < corn266> DrGibby| r/iamverybadass
07:04 < MillerBOSS> Yourmom
07:04 < MillerBOSS> Quit fucking crying then
07:05  * MillerBOSS slaps DrGibby| around a bit with a large trout
07:06 < corn266> anyone else like to lightly rub braided cables between their toes?
07:09 < DrGibby|> ok
07:09 < DrGibby|> so
07:09 < DrGibby|> thanks for the link, MillerBOSS
07:11 < MillerBOSS> You are welcome señor Gibby
07:14 < DrGibby|> get that commie shit out of here
07:21 < corn266> embrace capitalism DrGibby| listen to rage against the machine while you work for the government
07:25 < threwahway> government isnt the enemy, capitalism is.
07:25 < corn266> also sorry rpifan I'm not gay, I was making fun of hatter cause he said he was gay for liking wine
07:25 < MillerBOSS> Don't lie corn266
07:26 < MillerBOSS> We won't judge, honest.
07:26 < corn266> i'm not gay except for that MillerBOSS dick**
07:26 < MillerBOSS> Yeah I give it. So what? You told me you liked it
07:27 < corn266> "gettin your dick sucked ain't gay till it's done by a guy"
07:27 < MillerBOSS> lol
07:28 < AustinS> omg MillerBOSS i had most genius idea while @ TV
07:28 < corn266> goddamn GamesDoneQuick almost raised $700k for doctors w/o borders
07:28 < AustinS> if im gonna be up anyways....... why wait til everyones around anticipating / stressing over the deployment
07:29 < AustinS> when i can just ... deploy it now :)
07:29 < corn266> DEW IT
07:29 < AustinS> totes going to
07:29 < corn266> what's the IP I'll totes beta test
07:30 < MillerBOSS> DING DING DING DING DING
07:30 < AustinS> 10.20.70.100 ;p
07:31 < AustinS> or 10.120.5.100 if you're on our other super secret vlan
07:31 < corn266> frick nmap isn't installed
07:31 < gnupluslinux> frick
07:32 < MillerBOSS> Fuck
07:32 < gnupluslinux> fricking heck dong it
07:32 < corn266> hey this is a christian server
07:32 < MillerBOSS> Whoops
07:32 < gnupluslinux> F U C K
07:32 < agent_white> The cuss you are...
07:32 < corn266> W E  H A V E  B E E N  D E C E I V E D
07:32 < gnupluslinux> it took me way to long to connect curse and cuss
07:33 < AustinS> the big boss man here too, MillerBOSS ;o
07:33 < MillerBOSS> Tell him I said whats up
07:33 < MillerBOSS> V****?
07:33 < AustinS> lol if I see him. I saw him earlier today randomly
07:33 < AustinS> yeah
07:34 < AustinS> crazy ass hours like me. probably only time he gets his shit done too
07:34 < MillerBOSS> Do a WHAT? I dare ya
07:34 < AustinS> if he actually maybe knew my name was austin maybe :P
07:34 < AustinS> well, we've met a few times  but .. im one of many so probably not memorable
07:34 < MillerBOSS> Do it in like another room
07:34 < MillerBOSS> But that he can hear it and he would be like what the fuck
07:34 < AustinS> his son def knows who i am lmao, from when he used to work here
07:34 < gnupluslinux> ˥ ˥ O ɹ  ˥ Ǝ ɹ ɹ ∀ q
07:35 < MillerBOSS> xunilsulpung momruoy llor
07:35 < AustinS> i dressed up as mclovin one day and he happened to be standing in someones office that i went into/it was their idea, and he just cracked up. so i was forever mclovin :(
07:35 < gnupluslinux> kinda disappointed i couldnt find actual rotated
07:36 < MillerBOSS> lol
07:36 < MillerBOSS> WHAT?
07:37 < corn266> AustinS https://pastebin.com/7WEp9uT7
07:37 < MillerBOSS> Don't mind if I do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_y3OOQniDU Stone Cold What Moments
07:37 < nojeffrey> With MST if it says: Root Path Cost................................. 0, does this mean this current switch is the root?
07:38 < corn266> depends on how many periods you put after cost
07:39 < MillerBOSS> WHAT
07:39 < MillerBOSS>      ?
07:39 < corn266> AustinS https://pastebin.com/4yN8GM8M
07:40 < MillerBOSS> Host down
07:40 < corn266> RIP
07:41 < DrGibby|> my post on Cisco's help forum got marked as spam
07:41 < DrGibby|> fucking insult to injury
07:41 < corn266> lel
07:41 < MillerBOSS> How does that happen?
07:41 < corn266> maybe try the canned meats isle at the supermarket
07:41 < enix> Coming from you DrGibby| I'm not surprised
07:41 < enix> Forum admins are probably in this channel
07:42 < nojeffrey> ask in ##networking
07:42 < AustinS> corn266 havin fun scanning your own net / a non existent one? ;p
07:42 < AustinS> i swear it should be there ! :P
07:43 < corn266> I mean I was just trying to help?
07:43 < corn266> If you're deploying major shit then you might want it tested before it gets released to the general company
07:44 < MillerBOSS> And thats the bottom line
07:45 < DrGibby|> at this point I should probably just crash
07:45 < corn266> same but I doubt these passengers would like that
07:45 < DrGibby|> I thought cisco forums were expemt from shitty people
07:49 < corn266> DrGibby| give me 3 games to buy this steam sale
07:50 < DrGibby|> Uplink, Darwinia, and Prison Architect
07:53 < rpifan> yall terrible
07:53 < rpifan> so many homophone
07:54 < corn266> realistically only prison architect because dwarf fortress and the others by association
07:54 < corn266> rpifan get edumucated cause you mean simile
07:56 < DrGibby|> rpifan: lots of sexism, racism, and other shit here too
07:56 < DrGibby|> its sad
07:57 < enix> s/sad/home
07:57 < DrGibby|> nah
07:57 < corn266> sorry enix I accidentally banned layer8
07:57 < DrGibby|> aint no place for subjecting anyone to some bigoted shit
07:58 < corn266> "bigoted shit" has adapted to the time and has not been a subject of interest outside of extremist groups for the longist time, DrGibby|
07:59 < DrGibby|> uh
07:59 < DrGibby|> ok
07:59 < corn266> fuck, I had a "from your college" email this past weekend about an "lgbt friendly coffee shop" that opened up and the only comments were about what made this coffee shop different from literally every shop in town
07:59 < DrGibby|> when I hear "nigger" is that not bigoted speak?
08:00 < enix> :O
08:00 < gnupluslinux> what have i come back to
08:01 < corn266> DrGibby| it's not if the person speaking it believes it has no power
08:01 < rpifan> lol
08:01 < DrGibby|> I...
08:01 < rpifan> simile not metaphor
08:02 <+A-KO> https://youtu.be/iwwu56QVDyU
08:02 <+A-KO> mmmm
08:02 < DrGibby|> my god is that a reach
08:02 < DrGibby|> but ok
08:02 < threwahway> lol only extremists believe anything is bigoted
08:02 < threwahway> gtfo
08:02 < threwahway> wow
08:02 < threwahway> found the crypto libertarian
08:03 < corn266> "the corporations keep us down by divisionism"
08:04 < MillerBOSS> Wow that escalated quick.
08:05 <+A-KO> Not sure why we don't take a hard liner stance against racism and shit in here, personally.
08:05 <+A-KO> and sexism
08:05 <+A-KO> The fact that girlgerms bailed on the community is pathetic
08:05 <+A-KO> most of the folks in the subreddit and the channel aren't nearly as good of a tech person as she is
08:05 <+A-KO> and here we are
08:05 < MillerBOSS> What the hell is girlgerms?
08:05 < corn266> same
08:05 <+A-KO> a fellow sysadmin from down under who used to hang out in here and moderate the r/sysadmin subreddit?
08:06 < enix> oi oi oi
08:06 <+A-KO> and now she's gone and bailed because people were fuckheads?
08:06 < enix> whats the difference between master zones and dynamic zones in named
08:06 < gnupluslinux> aussie aussie aussie
08:07 < corn266> A-KO you can't really blame that on people who have no idea what you're talking about as well as are in a different time zone
08:07 <+A-KO> corn266: Considering this channel is literally namesaked for "r/sysadmin" I"m pretty sure I can
08:07 <+A-KO> also considering she used to hang out here
08:07 < gnupluslinux> .seen girlgerms
08:07 <+A-KO> it's been a whole
08:08 < corn266> `seen girlgerms
08:08 < gnupluslinux> damn a whole
08:08 < gnupluslinux> ;)
08:08 < MillerBOSS> Its up to oneself to stay or part. No one is holding a gun to their head.
08:08 < enix> `seen girlgerms girlgerms
08:08 < corn266> i'll disagree, but I can't prove against you A-KO
08:08 < enix> She was probably a man anyway; this IS the internet
08:08 < JollyRgrs> she left here a while back when ppl were acting like turds
08:08 < MillerBOSS> LOL enix
08:08 < enix> s/were/started
08:08 <+A-KO> Me: [23:08] -NickServ- Registered : Apr 29 01:21:18 2002 (16y 9w 1d ago)
08:09 < corn266> I will bring up misspwn though
08:09 < enix> oooo A-KO such big epeen come here big boy
08:09 < enix> corn266: I'd cyber that
08:09 < enix> misspwn: what's shakin
08:09 < enix> You DTC?
08:09 < corn266> down to cuck?
08:09 < JollyRgrs> so... show of hands... how many ppl tried to block bittorrents from a visiting family member and ended up setting the traffic shaper rule on.... EVERYTHING... bringing the entire network (LAN and WAN) to a grinding halt?
08:10 <+A-KO> nope
08:10 <+A-KO> I've got gig-e fiber
08:10 < JollyRgrs> o/
08:10 <+A-KO> good luck :D
08:10 <+A-KO> lolol
08:10 < JollyRgrs> i got gig-e fiber, too
08:10 < corn266> so... show of hands... who routes their network through a vpn to circumvent that shit
08:10 < JollyRgrs> but doesn't matter when i was allowed to use 0
08:11 < gnupluslinux> mfw cryptic1 's entire history seems to be bants
08:11 < JollyRgrs> lol
08:11 < JollyRgrs> ok, goodnight kids
08:11 < JollyRgrs> way too late for me
08:11 < threwahway> lol jollyrgrs you gotta plan more
08:11 < corn266> night daddy cummies
08:11 < AustinS> i only use vpn when torrenting just so i dont gotta deal with ISP notices lol
08:12 < JollyRgrs> threwahway: yeah, a lot more... like set this up NOT starting to read up and set this up at 1am and then troubleshoot at 2am
08:12 < JollyRgrs> AustinS: what vpn gives you gig-e connection for cheap?
08:13 < gnupluslinux> mom and dad's basement
08:13 < gnupluslinux> JollyRgrs> she left here a while back when ppl were acting like turds
08:13 < AustinS> i get decent speeds thru privateinternetaccess
08:13 < gnupluslinux> >implying this chan ever acts different for any length of time
08:13 < JollyRgrs> lol, gnupluslinux  "i don't get those notices, moms and dads does"
08:14 < gnupluslinux> :P
08:14 < AustinS> like when VPN'd from work i was downloading in the 300-400's
08:14 < JollyRgrs> gnupluslinux: it was very hostile for a bit b/c of esxtreme idiots talking about things they shouldn't
08:14 < corn266> well yea JollyRgrs who else would pay the internet and electric
08:14 < JollyRgrs> AustinS: how much a month?
08:14 < AustinS> which was crazy in my mind for VPN of any sort..
08:14 < JollyRgrs> AustinS: yeah, that was my concern, loss of speed if going through vpn
08:14 < gnupluslinux> any 300-400 worth of traffic to one user node isn't sus?
08:14 < AustinS> $39.95/yr
08:14 < AustinS> or 6.95/mo
08:15 < JollyRgrs> not that bad
08:15 < corn266> I've never had an issue with pia JollyRgrs btw
08:15 < AustinS> https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/buy-vpn/ nah not at all
08:15 < JollyRgrs> ok, goodnight
08:15 < AustinS> ive renewed several times now, haven't been really disappointed
08:15 < gnupluslinux> JollyRgrs, yeah i know just poking the bear
08:15 < corn266> oh shit AustinS you also on pia?
08:15 < gnupluslinux> is pia a pita with pita bread?
08:16 < AustinS> yeap
08:16 < AustinS> @ corn :p
08:16 < gnupluslinux> pigeon internet access
08:16 < corn266> to comcast yea
08:16 < corn266> gnupluslinux it's sneaker net with pigeons yea
08:16 < threwahway> 1gb comcast makes me sad, its only 50mb up
08:16 < threwahway> and $50 for unlimited data
08:16 < gnupluslinux> implemented exclusively with IPoAC corn266
08:16 < AustinS> comcasts limits pissed me off, definitely was hard to hit them more than once (and you get like two free warnings or w/e)
08:17 < AustinS> but ... dumb
08:17 < AustinS> best cable plan i could get here was 400/40, no limts though
08:17 < LemWork> ordered some "KVM" cables for my new 4 port KVM at work
08:17 < threwahway> i got away with a lot for a long time but charges finalyl started showing on my account
08:17 < threwahway> 400/40 is good
08:17 < LemWork> they shipped us bags containing 3 seperate cables for each port
08:17 < AustinS> yea im not complaining :P
08:17 < threwahway> i had 300 and it was basically fine but only 10mbps up was unacceptable
08:17 < corn266> i know all those words except IPoAC, AustinS i've never hit comcast upper bounds but was DL'ing at 30MBps yesterday
08:18 < corn266> and yea with B not b
08:18 < gnupluslinux> IP over Avian Carrier
08:18 < corn266> luuuul
08:18 < AustinS> only time i hit it was when i had 2 broken wrists and literally just had netflix on TV 24/7 while doped up on strong ass oxys
08:18 < corn266> i heard the chinese were all over that shit
08:18 < gnupluslinux> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1149
08:18 < AustinS> watched... so .. many.. movies/shows
08:18 < corn266> No. Fucking. Way. gnupluslinux
08:18 < gnupluslinux> check the date
08:19 < corn266> sounds like your mom was trying to help you out AustinS
08:19 < AustinS> i had nubudy to help me to shit :( lol
08:20 < AustinS> ugh my internet right now is so lopsided again
08:20 < AustinS> http://www.speedtest.net/result/7428666969.png
08:21 < corn266> >> ITT: AustinS complaining about being on a seeder connectiong
08:21 < AustinS> work connection. wish i could use it as a seeder :D
08:22 < threwahway> wow torrent at work gg
08:22 < AustinS> on PIA i do :3
08:22 < gnupluslinux> right?
08:22 < AustinS> best of both worlds lol
08:23 < AustinS> smokeytime
08:23 < plop> morning
08:24 < threwahway> austins do a real speed test
08:24 < enix> AustinS: I wish I had those speeds
08:25 < enix> but LOL hicksville is actually a place?
08:25 < ceofreak> Goode
08:25 < enix> You are literally a hick
08:25 < threwahway> a lot of diminishing returns after 300mbps
08:26 < AustinS> eh I dont even live in NY state so
08:26 < AustinS> they're hicks not me!
08:26 < AustinS> threwahway, what real speed test? :P
08:26 < threwahway> i wish i could get a custom async provision from comcast.
08:26 < threwahway> like iperf or testmy.net
08:27 < threwahway> iperf to AWS closest datacenter is the best :)
08:27 < AustinS> yeah i was going to say testmy.net just told me i had 240/63 lmao
08:28 < AustinS> i have iperf installed on both VPN instances on both sides of our VPC + DC here.. let me just run if its still there
08:29 < AustinS> hooray all ports already opened, i didnt want to login
08:29 < threwahway> gotta be able to push those packets ;) ookla only terminates
08:30 < AustinS> [SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec   610 MBytes   512 Mbits/sec  2338             sender
08:30 < AustinS> [SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec   603 MBytes   506 Mbits/sec                  receiver
08:31 < threwahway> noiceeeeeeeeeee
08:32 < AustinS> Hosted by Green House Data (Orangeburg, NY) [34.21 km]: 4.074 ms
08:32 < AustinS> Testing download speed................................................................................
08:32 < AustinS> Download: 823.59 Mbit/s
08:32 < AustinS> Testing upload speed................................................................................................
08:32 < AustinS> Upload: 472.83 Mbit/s
08:32 < AustinS> from speedtest.py script on the server across street on a diff line
08:32 < AustinS> (cogent)
08:32 < AustinS> it seems like my speed tests are always so wildly inconsistent, but .. at least its fast regardless. not complaining by any means :P
08:32 < threwahway> its still just doing termination tho
08:32 < threwahway> they are two different types of tests
08:32 < AustinS> our main switches are garbage too.. i know they're getting replaced soon
08:33 < AustinS> that will probably help so much..
08:33 < enix> Wheres hunter today? Haven't seen him? :\
08:34 < enix> Someone didn't do these dns records in alphabetical OR ip order.....
08:34  * enix 's eyes twitch
08:34 < threwahway> i mean, does it matter?
08:35 < threwahway> ctrl f
08:35 < enix> Are you even a sysadmin if it doesn't matter?
08:35 < AustinS> oh god if you saw our zone file (before it was autogenerated by admin app)
08:35 < enix> I've seen some shockers
08:35 < AustinS> or the mail virtusertable .. or redirectrules files.. o lord
08:35 < enix> I despise the ones cPanel does
08:35 < AustinS> well, ours actually isnt that bad.. its definitely not in order
08:35 < AustinS> but I run big chunks of records through column -t
08:35 < AustinS> so they're at least spaced nicely :) ha
08:35 < enix> I should actually write a script to fix it for them because it absolutely pains me. Especially considering that it's available for customers to see >:(
08:36 < enix> hahahaha I've done the same thing!
08:36 < AustinS> cat zone | sort | column -t
08:36 < AustinS> fix random SOA things
08:36 < AustinS> i love the column program, its such a fucking life saver
08:36 < enix> However all of my domains on my personal infrastructure have been selected because they fit inside of a character limit which keeps a consistent, evenly spaced format through the zone files I personally wrote
08:37 < enix> I group based on function for mine though - which this guy has done - but I would also alphabetically list them in the zone file under each grouping
08:37 < threwahway> so youre twitching over nothing but your own sense of order
08:37 < enix> In this instance, he's got 0.74 before 0.73 which is before 0.76 followed by 0.75
08:37 < enix> I'm a perfectionist... sue me
08:38 < AustinS> i let one guy in IT have access to the DNS server, and he just plops all over their zone in disarray :p but i moved everything into a web admin for all of this shit
08:38 < AustinS> cause.. less tickets coming to me hopefully
08:38 < enix> Yeah that's partially why I run cPanel now tbh
08:38 < threwahway> thats not perfectionism.
08:38 < enix> Clients were sending in so many tickets which was cool at first, but I just can't get it done fast enough for them unless they're paying $25/mo for support
08:39 < enix> (if they dont pay for the support, they just get dealt with when I get home)
08:40 < AustinS> good ol hosting days
08:40 < enix> yeah i love it
08:40 < enix> I nearly bought a legitimate web hosting business with a really good business model
08:41 < AustinS> i liked doing that + the programming side of it, so we sold game servers also (and voice ones back in the day),  this is all like... 2004-2008 era
08:41 < enix> Banks wouldn't loan me the measly $80,000 I needed and then the owner and I had a falling out over the fact that I was struggling to get the money :(
08:41 < AustinS> and built out control panels/stuff to provision them and manage them
08:41 < enix> haha yeah hosting vent and ts servers for wow guilds hahaha
08:41 < AustinS> HL/CS 1.6 servers
08:41 < AustinS> unreal
08:41 < AustinS> those were mostly the ones we did / most popular then but yeah lol
08:41 < enix> I know a bloke called "thenewguy" or something on CSS, he ran a hosting company
08:42 < enix> What a shit cunt he was to work with, and didn't want to pay for a hosting panel so he built his own. Literally got a buddy to write it, who did everything in plain text...
08:42 < enix> and stored credit card details
08:42 < enix> good times to be a skimmer
08:42 < AustinS> did you ever play cs 1.3-1.6 back i nthe day? lmao
08:42 < AustinS> wow lol
08:42 < enix> Um
08:42 < AustinS> yeah i released an opengl wall hack
08:42 < enix> My memory is sketchy. Mostly at lans
08:42 < enix> oh wow
08:42 < AustinS> but it read HL keys otu of the registry and kicked them off to an HTTP server lmao
08:42 < enix> OHHHH
08:43 < enix> I vaguely remember "wall hacking" through some kinda thing with the game
08:43 < AustinS> because everyone was like "client hooks are unsafe, but you cant steal keys with opengl drivers!!"
08:43 < AustinS> so people just freely just threw this .dll file in their game folder lmao
08:43 < enix> eh I should leave
08:43 < AustinS> i had ... THOUSANDS of valid Half-Life keys.. and then Steam started coming around
08:44 < enix> It's about time... yeah. Alrighty time to run home. Be back in about an hour or so; have to clean the house a bit when I get home lol
08:44 < AustinS> yeah i should get to work... :X
08:44 < enix> Fucking steam
08:44 < enix> LOL
08:44 < enix> yeah
08:44 < AustinS> lol k I'll be around a while..
08:44 < enix> yeahhh... I have a bit to do as well
08:44 < enix> Cya soon
08:44 < AustinS>  / probably here thru the morning bah
08:44 < AustinS> later
08:49 < plop> i'm installing guacamole to test a couple of things. have you tried it?
08:53 <@Nostalg14c> AustinS: lmao
08:56 < humpaxx> Gomorgon everyone
08:56 < humpaxx> plop: I like guacmole, its cool and i wish i had reasons to use it
08:57 <@Nostalg14c> Retardo question.
08:57 <@Nostalg14c> Anyone know how to get the cert warning prompt back when RDP'ing
08:57 <@Nostalg14c> everyone says to delete the hkcu key for the server, but it doesn't work for me :(
08:58 < humpaxx> Nostalg14c: If all else fails you could just reimage your machine or get a new one :p
08:58 <@Nostalg14c> Ye literally spinning up a vm
08:58 <@Nostalg14c> lol
08:58 < humpaxx> Did you try rebooting after removing the reg keys?
08:58 <@Nostalg14c> cbf
08:58 <@Nostalg14c> i deleted the container
08:59 <@Nostalg14c> then reconnected and it remade
08:59 <@Nostalg14c> i got the error now on a w10 machine, thats progress.
08:59 < humpaxx> Why do you need the error?
09:00 <@Nostalg14c> So i can fix it and then ensure its fixed.
09:01 < humpaxx> Are you replacing the cert with a valid one and you need the error box to make sure it actually works?
09:02 <@Nostalg14c> Basically, yeh.
09:03 <@Nostalg14c> I need to be able to reproduce the error to ensure the fix :)
09:07 < humpaxx> Just add the certiciate thumbprint with a GPO and users won´t get the warming even tho its not valid :)
09:09 < AustinS__> omg lol. internet/interfaces went cray. glad i have like 5 nicknames on her enow (ones my ZNC which i should probably just use instead all the time)
09:10 <@Nostalg14c> humpaxx: not really valid for large env.
09:10 <@Nostalg14c> I'm doing it the proper way anyway.
09:10 <@Nostalg14c> Adding a cert template for RDP Auth.
09:10 <@Nostalg14c> And deploying that.
09:11 < AustinS__> #RIP
09:11 < humpaxx> Nostalg14c: Thats true
09:15 < humpaxx> So sweden beat mexico with 3-0 yesterday. I did not expect that.
09:15 <@Nostalg14c> Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
09:16 < humpaxx> The game?
09:17 <@Nostalg14c> Its a quote from a vitally important TV show.
09:17 <@Nostalg14c> That you clearly need to go watch, right now.
09:18 < AustinS> there rebooted windows VM, it seems happier
09:19 < AustinS> time to work bbs
09:26 < plop> humpaxx, thanks!
09:27 <@Nostalg14c> Got
09:27 <@Nostalg14c> I fucking hate the fucking windows 10/2016 start menu SO MUCH
09:27 <@Nostalg14c> SO SO MUCH WHY BREAK SOMETHING THAT WAS Perfectly good.
09:27 <@Nostalg14c> Fucking can't even type mmc without opening up the wrong god damn application.
09:31 < nojeffrey> and half the time you click it, nothing happens, click the windows icon again and then it opens
09:31 <@Nostalg14c> yeah no kiddingl
09:31 <@Nostalg14c> Its super slow.
09:31 <@Nostalg14c> Laggy af.
09:34 < LemWork> Nostalg14c, go and get windows 10 LTSB
09:35 <@Nostalg14c> no
09:35 < LemWork> zomg is it so much better
09:35 <@Nostalg14c> thats recommended for no-one
09:35 <@Nostalg14c> also Windows 10 LTSB isn't a very good Domain Controller.
09:35 <@Nostalg14c> If you know what I mean.
09:35 < LemWork> true.dat
09:35 < LemWork> use Samba 4 instead :-P
09:35 <@Nostalg14c> sure, let me go buy a synology nas
09:35 <@Nostalg14c> that has it inbuilt.
09:36 < threwahway> nostalg14c omg dude i know
09:36 < threwahway> the original w10 start menu was pretty perfect
09:37 <@Nostalg14c> w7 is the best as far as i can tell
09:37 <@Nostalg14c> every w10/2016 box ive touched has the sucks.
09:43 < LemWork> you know the major reason for that?
09:43 < LemWork> the W10 start menu wants to search the internet
09:43 < LemWork> do a wireshark capture and watch it, it's INSANE
09:48 <@Nostalg14c> Ye i know, but it still sucks searchign locally.
09:48 < LemWork> oh that too
09:48 < LemWork> I've had my own complains about that
09:48 < LemWork> including a rather special case of that recently where searching "Control Panel" would only give me the settings app....
10:00 < AustinS> startin my big ass migration :X
10:00 < threwahway> from to ?
10:00 < AustinS> oh, an app upgrade.. but its been several side tasks/big tasks that have accumulated over months on my end, plus a big update from all the other devs
10:00 < AustinS> all happily bundled into one :X
10:01 < AustinS> was supposed to do it later today, but i stayed all night testing and fixing minor things.. and figured its easier to roll out when noones around :) and then it can be a little surprise when they come in lol
10:02 < AustinS> wat could go wrong right
10:03 < AustinS> except forgetting to turn off triggers/email configs so it doesnt blast a thousand emails again like it did once during a dev run lol
10:04 < threwahway> ><
10:05 < AustinS> and nobody put together good notes like "update the env file with these new things!" so im just piecing it together, so glad im doing this when i have lots of quiet time
10:05 <+A-KO> welp
10:05 <+A-KO> Day 1 of taking SSRI
10:06 < AustinS> :o
10:06 < AustinS> won't feel anything for several days, idk what one it is/how they normally behave, but i know theyre slow to kick on (and off)
10:07 <+A-KO> using robocopy to copy all of my data off of my storage space
10:07 <+A-KO> going to retool the entire thing
10:10 < AustinS> 39 separate migration processes queued up... heeeeeeeeere were go lol
10:11 <+A-KO> this poor external 4TB HDD
10:11 <+A-KO> formatted to 3.6TB, and I'm about to use 3.24TB of it
10:12 <+A-KO> robocopy /e /zb /r:1 /w:1 /mt:32 wooooo
10:16 <+A-KO> wow
10:16 <+A-KO> windows 10 pro workstation is $125...
10:16 <+A-KO> gg
10:17 < nohusuro> A-KO: why not /MIR instead of /e ?
10:18 <+A-KO> no point in using /mir :P
10:18 <+A-KO> in this case it doesn't really serve a purpose
10:18 <+A-KO> the biggest benefit of /mir is to keep two folders in sync via RDC
10:18 <+A-KO> outside of that, it's not really useful. I think it might imply /copyall, too.
10:19 <+A-KO> But that's about it
10:20 <+A-KO> for those that aren't aware, RDC is a Microsoft implementation of a function similar to rsync--except applications have to make specific use of it
11:00 < mtnielsen> A-KO remote desktop connection?
11:00 < mtnielsen> or are you talking about a different kind of RDC?
11:00 < mtnielsen> that's the only microsoft rdc I know
11:01 < mtnielsen> ah remote differential compression
11:01 < mtnielsen> ah
11:01 < mtnielsen> so you're talking about just plain DFSR
11:03 < mtnielsen> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/tr-2006-157.pdf
11:03 < mtnielsen> I like science papers. they go from 0 to 5000 in two pages
11:04 < mtnielsen> I should finish my calculus book one of these days
11:06 < ceofreakz> Why I can send an email via smtp with office365 from powershell but not from the fucking scanner
11:06 < ceofreakz> drives me crazy this fucking shit
11:22 < threwahway> ceofreakz does the printer support everything o365 smtp needs?
11:22 < ceofreakz> supposedly
11:29 < nohusuro> probably a TLS version problem
11:29 < niklasye> I'm starting a new assignment on monday, I'm worried that they only allow windows on their laptops :/
11:29 < niklasye> I forgot to ask
11:30 < threwahway> windows isnt that bad
11:30 < threwahway> cygwin helps a lot
11:31 < niklasye> I guess
11:31 < niklasye> but I'd prefer to run i3 on my computer
11:32 < niklasye> windows window management is painful
11:32 < nyox> good morning
11:32 < niklasye> morning!
11:32 < nyox> you can run ubuntu on windows
11:32 < nyox> or opensuse
11:33 < threwahway> windows window management is literally the best of the lot
11:34 < threwahway> but i guess if switching to a tty so you can recover from a crashed facebook tab is fun for you be my guest.
11:36 < niklasye> I'm not sure how crashing tabs of facebook relates to my window manager
11:37 < niklasye> I just prefer a tiling window manager
11:38 < genr8_> i do gotta admit with as good as Windows is, they never really work on making the window management better
11:38 < genr8_> all we got was a slightly different WindowsKey+Tab screen
11:40 < niklasye> genr8_ yeah, I wish it was more customizable, maybe tiling could be an option for instance
11:43 < humpaxx> Sooo.. ipv6. Does ipv6 remove NAT so you only need a firewall to manage the traffic going in/out?
11:44 < genr8_> niklasye: it is. right click the taskbar and hit "Show Windows Side by Side"
11:44 < genr8_> or "Show Windows Stacked"
11:44 < genr8_> but yeah.... like, it clearly has the ability... it just needs options.
11:45 < genr8_> helps if you know the hotkeys like Win+D to toggle desktop
11:45 < genr8_> Ctrl+Shift+Escape brings task manager up
11:45 < genr8_> can set Win+X to bring up your shell
11:45 < genr8_> Win+R to run
11:46 < genr8_> all ton of power user keyboard commands and stuff to help windows suck less
11:47 < genr8_> i also use a buncha of 3rd party programs
11:47 < genr8_> "AltDrag" helps you move windows around
11:48 < genr8_> hold alt and left drag to move window, or , hold alt and right drag any corner or side to resize the windows
11:50 < genr8_> Windows 10 is realizing they can update stuff. Like we finally got Tabbed File Explorer
11:50 < genr8_> I had been using "Clover" for that for forever
11:58 < genr8_> humpaxx: basically
11:58 < humpaxx> Tabbed file explorer? :O
11:59 < genr8_> i meant your question
11:59 < genr8_> IPV6 removes the need for NAT.
12:00 < genr8_> but yea the new versions of windows have tabbed file explorer, dark theme, and the new "Sets" feature
12:00 < genr8_> so theyre doing things.
12:03 < genr8_> WAIT i lied lol...... they redacted the feature YESTERDAY apparently;...... https://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-kills-their-most-ambitious-ui-experiment-for-windows-10-rs5/
12:04 < genr8_> idiots!
12:05 < genr8_> oh nevermind. its a clickbait title. they just postponed it..... indefinitely.
12:05 <+CheckYourSix> I need bigger battery backup units. Network based ones
12:06 < genr8_> link a really expensive one
12:06 < genr8_> or one you want
12:08 <+CheckYourSix> Well, I'm debating on size. Right now, I can only get a 1500 VA due to no dedicated 30 amp plugs in my apartment and no chance of adding one. I just don't want to shoot myself in the foot for when I eventually get a house and can have the 30 amp.
12:08 <+CheckYourSix> I was debating between APC SMX1500RM2U and APC SMT1500RM2U
12:11 <+CheckYourSix> And the question is do I get 2 of them and split the load or do I get one and plug in one of the expansion packs
12:15 <+CheckYourSix> Or do I go with the tried and true SUA1500RM2U, even though it's an older unit
12:15 < humpaxx> CheckYourSix: Get the 30amp one and plugg in two power cords ??
12:15 <+CheckYourSix> humpaxx: Rofl
12:15 < humpaxx> I have a 3yr education in electric stuff and computers but i never bothered paying atention to the electric part, my idea might be a stupid one in this case
12:17 <+CheckYourSix> Theoretically you can chop off the 30 amp plug and put a 15 amp on it for now, then go back to a 30 when it can be supported. The problem is, you can easily pull too much power through the lines and cause a fire. Good luck explaining that one. It's not worth the risk at all. Even if I'm not pulling anything close to the full 15 amps
12:17 < humpaxx> Better safe than housefire
12:17 <+CheckYourSix> That's why I said in theory
12:18 <+CheckYourSix> I've seen people do it on the internet, but no thanks
12:18 <+CheckYourSix> To save a couple hundred bucks on and risk that is not worth that
12:19 < genr8_> the ones you mentioned are 1500VA models
12:19 <+CheckYourSix> Yes
12:19 < genr8_> so thats a regular 15 amp american circuit
12:19 <+CheckYourSix> I was referring to humpaxx 's suggestion
12:19 < genr8_> i would get one of the above
12:19 <+CheckYourSix> I mentioned the 1500 VA models specifically for the 15 amp circuit
12:19 < genr8_> and it says you can add on additional batteries
12:20 <+CheckYourSix> I forgot which ones support extra batteries. Not all of them.
12:20 < genr8_> you're probably gonna have to decide whether its better to get a 2nd unit or max the first unit out on batteries
12:20 <+CheckYourSix> Well is there a good way to decide that?
12:21 < genr8_> probably just by running a UPS to know if its adequate
12:22 < genr8_> or i guess if you knew from the start if you had more than 1500VA of devices
12:22 <+CheckYourSix> I don't have that many
12:23 < JFDkthx> check can you get an external power supply for the unit?
12:23 <+CheckYourSix> What do you mean
12:23 < JFDkthx> i dunno
12:24 < genr8_> installing a 30 amp line is some serious shit
12:24 <+CheckYourSix> So the SMT1500RM2U and SUA1500RM2U can't support expansion packs. Only the newer X model can.
12:24 <+CheckYourSix> If it was my house I'd just run the 30 amp line. No big deal to do
12:24 < genr8_> ah see i looked up the X to start ;p
12:25 < genr8_> that would be a good reddit post too if you documented it
12:25 < mrghostman> CheckYourSix: FYI, this is direct from our APC guy: The SMX UPS systems are mid-grade UPS systems that regulate the voltage to ensure it stays within acceptable ranges.  What the SMX doesn’t do is isolate and filter out all potential harmful distortions.  The APC UPS product line that does that is the SRT products.
12:26 < mrghostman> we had equipment get popped that was running on SMX systems
12:26 <+CheckYourSix> SRT is $$$$
12:26 < mrghostman> yeah
12:26 < humpaxx> Hmmmmm
12:26 <+CheckYourSix> Too much for homelab
12:26 < genr8_> yea i saw it said output voltage distortion within 5% on the SMX i thought that seemed kidna high
12:27 < genr8_> ill take 120v - 5% over having no power tho
12:27 <+CheckYourSix> I have a consumer grade APC 1500 unit powering everything except my NAS. It's only at like 55% load, but 3 minute run time is not long enough at all
12:27 < humpaxx> Is there such a thing where you have a male-male USB cable and some kind of software to fake some kind of USB storage?
12:27 < genr8_> yea that used to be a thing
12:28 < humpaxx> genr8_: back when firewire was modern
12:28 < humpaxx> Never seen it with USB
12:28 < genr8_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Easy_Transfer
12:28 < genr8_> https://plugable.com/products/usb-easy-tran/
12:29 <+CheckYourSix> mrghostman: Good to know the info. Just can't afford over $1k for a UPS for homelab. $300 ish is pricey but doable.
12:29 < genr8_> from memory, they do  need that some special cable.
12:29 < mrghostman> CheckYourSix: i joined the convo late and didnt know it was for a homelab
12:29 <+CheckYourSix> I didn't actually mention that part. You didn't miss it
12:29 < genr8_> PL25A1 Hi-Speed USB Host to Host Bridge Controller - The PL-25A1 is a single chip Hi-Speed USB Host-to-Host bridge controller specially designed for Windows USB Easy Transfer cable and Microsoft Windows Easy Transfer program. The Windows Easy Transfer program is built inside Windows Vista OS and also available for Windows XP Update.
12:30 < genr8_> hah
12:30 < genr8_> what an obscure thing
12:30 <+CheckYourSix> I need to understand more about why they're measured in VA and how to find out how many VA are being used by my gear so far
12:30 <+CheckYourSix> It only shows how many watts are used
12:30 < genr8_> VA can be more, if the Power Factor is bad
12:31 < genr8_>  something about inductive loads and the current lagging the voltage, which makes measurement harder but it does put higher load on the thing
12:31 < genr8_> idk how to explain it
12:32 <+CheckYourSix> I know right now I'm pulling about 450 watts on average. It bounces around a lot though up to like 520 watts. I plan to put my desktop on the consumer UPS I have now and put everything else on the other UPS
12:32 < genr8_> random example: on my kill-a-watt meter, my tablet charges at 15 watts but it reads 27VA
12:33 < genr8_> its just a matter of battery life then. that would well under half load , 40% ?
12:34 < genr8_> even if the 520 watts was like 750VA it would be half load for the 1500VA UPS
12:34 <+CheckYourSix> Should be 40% or less average
12:34 < humpaxx> Ughg
12:34 < humpaxx> I want to go home and play FO4
12:34 <+CheckYourSix> So anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour of run time
12:35 < humpaxx> CheckYourSix: on 1500VA?
12:35 < genr8_> I want this storm to end, cause i can feel a power outage coming and I dont have a UPS
12:35 <+CheckYourSix> humpaxx: Yeah
12:35 < humpaxx> I think its time for lunch
12:35 < humpaxx> laters boiz
12:35 <+CheckYourSix> genr8_: I had no UPS for so many years. Bought one in 2015 and it saved me 11 times the first month. Never going without one again
12:35 < genr8_> l8s
12:36 < genr8_> yeah. its just like a $120 a pop even for a basic one
12:36 < genr8_> im gonna try to submit a purchase order or something
12:36 < genr8_> i hope the power does go out now so i can say thats the last straw
12:37 <+CheckYourSix> I also plan to have things shut down in tiers. If I can have something monitoring the UPS, as soon as it goes to battery, wait 5 minutes, shut down all VMs, then shut down the hypervisor, etc. Should give me just network hardware at that point. NAS has its own UPS and my desktop will too
12:37 < genr8_> yeah thats good
12:37 <+CheckYourSix> And once it's just network gear, the power usage should be way less. Router, switch, AP, modem.
12:37 <+CheckYourSix> Should run for hours
12:37 < genr8_> thats the one thing i do have
12:38 < genr8_> i managed to get a UPS for $20
12:38 < mrghostman> i need to get a small ups, just for my router and modem
12:38 <+CheckYourSix> I'm gonna plug my network switch into the UPS my desktop is on too. Once that runs out of power, no point in the switch being online. Just modem, router, AP
12:39 <+CheckYourSix> Then I can at least use my laptop and phone
12:39 < genr8_> mrghostman: this is what i got
12:39 < genr8_> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16842301621
12:40 <+CheckYourSix> Lol damn that thing is tiny
12:40 < mrghostman> genr8_: nice
12:40 < mrghostman> thats all i need
12:41 < genr8_> i even run a mini ITX pfsense computer off it, (with the ground plug chopped off)
12:42 <+CheckYourSix> SMX1500RM2U is like $400 with new batteries. Plus I need the network management card
12:42 < genr8_> no monitoring
12:42 < genr8_> yea.
12:42 <+CheckYourSix> I'll have to keep watching eBay
12:43 < genr8_> maybe theres a place to get new batteries
12:44 < genr8_> they seem to be a standard size
12:46 <+CheckYourSix> Not many sell without batteries unless they're damaged
12:46 < genr8_> well i wouldnt want somebodys dumb old batteries
12:46 < genr8_> i wouldnt want to ship them either
12:47 < genr8_> these network management cards are so overpriced too
12:47 <+CheckYourSix> Well these are refurbs with fresh batteries
12:48 <+CheckYourSix> NMCs aren't too crazy on eBay
12:48 <+CheckYourSix> Gotta run. Time to leave for work.
12:49 < genr8_> APC 9620, 9630, 9631 ?
12:49 < genr8_> yea theyre way cheaper on ebay. theyre goin for like $200+ New
12:49 < genr8_> seems like 60-80 on ebay
12:51 < genr8_> Here you go, this beefy enough? 30 amps, network card, double conversion, 6K VA / 4.2kw https://www.ebay.com/itm/APC-SURT6000RMXLT3U-Smart-UPS-RT-6000VA-4200W-208V-30A-L6-30P-AP9631-NEW-BATT/232823649782
12:51 <+CheckYourSix> Haha. That thing would run my stuff for like a full day
12:52 < genr8_> *drool*
12:54 < genr8_> amazon has batteries https://www.amazon.com/Powersonic-PS-1270F1-Sealed-lead-Battery/dp/B0010AN0SI
12:55 < genr8_> gonna keep lookin for myself on ebay now... maybe i can cobble something together
12:58 < genr8_> This 600VA one for $54.95 on Amazon is like the bigger brother of that tiny $25 one before: https://www.amazon.com/APC-Protector-Charging-Back-UPS-BE600M1/dp/B01FWAZEIU
12:59 < ceofreakz> Why do all those adsense and online marketing "gurus" look like utter dorks
13:00 < ceofreakz> "I earn 45.000 a month with google adsense"
13:00 < ceofreakz> Cant even brush my teeth
13:03 < humpaxx> CheckYourSix: is power such an issue in your area that you´d want an UPS at home?
13:06 < vader-> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ROoJ5EPa/36291387_10210187540599899_865726726674579456_n.jpg
13:08 < Popzi> best free, preferably open source / self hosted email ticketing system you'd recommend?
13:09 < ceofreakz> OSTicket
13:09 < ceofreakz> Jira
13:10 < Popzi> OsTicket looks like a popular option, will give it a shot, thanks =)
13:10 < ceofreakz> Where u wanna set it up?
13:10 < ceofreakz> AWS?
13:17 < Sousapro> Popzi: you can also do the hosted version of spiceworks help desk if you're looking for easy and as fast as possible
13:20 < Sousapro> OSticket is definitely more flexible though
13:20 < ceofreakz> ^
13:21 < Popzi> yeah just been in pm, am going to give OSTicket a shot haha, thanks dudes =)
13:43 < JFDkthx> fuk 0630 meetings
13:43 < JFDkthx> i like sleeping in.
13:43 < JFDkthx> ruin my day
13:44 < JFDkthx> also i love peoples pictures in AD
13:45 < JFDkthx> it always seems like people pick the picture that closest resembles a dui mugshot
13:48 < SynMonger> 6:30am ID photos
13:54 < threwahway> wow 630 meeting why did you agree?
13:54 < threwahway> i just tell them im not available before X
14:00 < JFDkthx> threwahway: im taking over all the DCs in my area, and facilities is a bunch of old timers
14:01 < threwahway> even better, youve got the upper hand :)
14:01 < JFDkthx> im not in charge of facilities
14:01 < JFDkthx> they have way way more to worry about than i ever could
14:19 < ekaj_> `bofh
14:21 < mtnielsen> why is it pfsense can upgrade itself but no network hardware in the world, that I know of, can do that?
14:24 < estranger> Keeping it real in here?
14:24 < threwahway> mtnielsen pfsense is freebsd with a custom UI.
14:25 < mtnielsen> threwahway so... all network hardware should be freebsd? is that what you're saying?
14:25 < mtnielsen> because I just want automatic updates
14:25 < mtnielsen> I demand it
14:26 < threwahway> im sure cisco and juniper have some sort of workflow that makes it easier
14:27 < onenerdyguy> guys. god damn developers driving me nuts
14:29 < estranger> That's their job
14:29 < niklasye> onenerdyguy what did the developer do to drive you nuts?
14:34 < onenerdyguy> niklasye, sucked at their job again
14:34 < onenerdyguy> we're doing a big push on containers across the whole board for everyone, right?
14:34 < onenerdyguy> But not for these guys. Nope. They don't wanna learn how to use containers
14:34 < onenerdyguy> too much work
14:36 <@cryptic1> guys lootcrate purchases are down
14:36 <@cryptic1> this is not good
14:36 < nyox> sounds like everyone in IT across all our companies except for me.
14:36 <@cryptic1> we are running out of feenode user cals
14:36 <+giant_it_burrit> kick the idlers
14:37 <@cryptic1> I may have to start using rolling channel mute blackouts
14:37 <+giant_it_burrit> there are like 500
14:37 <@cryptic1> or muting a % of the channel at a time
14:38 < Nightcinder> can you mute felda
14:38 <+CheckYourSix_> humpaxx: It's not bad, but get a good storm through here and it'll knock it out for a few seconds to a few minutes. Or for 5 days like we had during the blizzard back in the spring.
14:39 <@cryptic1> probably not his company felda's tide pods is one of our biggest sponsors
14:39 < onenerdyguy> cryptic1, lootcrate can't go away. I need my monthly socks.
14:39 < Nightcinder> i thought about subbing to lootcrate
14:39 < Nightcinder> is it worth it
14:40 <+giant_it_burrit> no
14:40 <+giant_it_burrit> you wind up with a lot of shit
14:40 <@cryptic1> its garbage
14:40 < coderphive> Official message: If you're not on linux rn, you need to /part
14:40 < Nightcinder> they don't have my shirt size
14:40 < Nightcinder> so
14:40 <@cryptic1> all of those monthly boxes just sent you crap
14:40 <+giant_it_burrit> yup
14:40 <+giant_it_burrit> unless you need the product
14:41 <@cryptic1> its a lot of left over stock/inventory from other stores that could not sell it
14:42 <+giant_it_burrit> more or less
14:42 <+giant_it_burrit> if you want a box
14:42 <+giant_it_burrit> pick something you will use
14:42 <+giant_it_burrit> i have a car care one
14:42 <@cryptic1> they still send crap you will not use
14:42 <+giant_it_burrit> sends me adams polish, griots garage chemical guys etc
14:42 < coderphive> or you could do what normal people do and buy bullshit on Craigslist
14:42 < coderphive> js
14:42 <@cryptic1> yeap
14:42 < vonzcfw> any of you guys able to get to: aka.ms/createapppassword ?
14:43 <+giant_it_burrit> its been better than most
14:43 <+giant_it_burrit> i normally do a thing with everything in  the box
14:43 <+giant_it_burrit> new air fresh, shammies, candy etc
14:43 < coderphive> when will they have a "monthly software box" for all the software people don't want
14:44 <@cryptic1> coderphive, humble bundle
14:44 <+giant_it_burrit> you mean steam sale
14:44 < coderphive> oh wait, I can trove github for that
14:44 < coderphive> true, rip to all of these
14:44 <@cryptic1> and all those really shitty dollar or 5 dollar game bundles for gaming addicts that need to the most amount of games in their library
14:45 < coderphive> that's bc it my e-go bigger than yours
14:45 < coderphive> jk, I'm on linux so I can't play games
14:46 < humpaxx> coderphive: Just play vim
14:46 < coderphive> tru
14:46 < humpaxx> my friend made a networked game based on VIM where you type words to do stuff
14:47 < coderphive> a text adventure?
14:47 < coderphive> I remember Oregon Trail too
14:47 < JFDkthx> coderphive: uh... yum install crawl
14:47 < humpaxx> No no, it was like "type a word to make a move"
14:47 < JFDkthx> or crawl-tiles
14:47 < humpaxx> It wasn´t superfun
14:47 < JFDkthx> goddamn dungeon crawl stone soup is the bees knees
14:47 < humpaxx> crawl tiles then
14:48 < humpaxx> Symantec.. y u so bad
14:48 < JFDkthx> because you havent paid them enough to not succ
14:49 < JFDkthx> you pay the hooker to go home
14:49 < humpaxx> I´ve tried gettign licenses for securitycloud for over a month through ingram micros cloud platform
14:49 < JFDkthx> member
14:49 < humpaxx> numerous tickets and just "Thanks for your patience", tried using ALSO´s cloud and with them i at least get the license after the provisioning fails and the support does some manual stuff
14:50 <+giant_it_burrit> fuck you adobe
14:50 < humpaxx> Them too
14:50 <+giant_it_burrit> cant use my stand alone acrobat licenses if the account is also has a cc subscription
14:50 < humpaxx> We can send people into space but a proper cloud license thing is just too hard
14:58 < McDonaldsWiFi> 2 days left fellas
14:59 < onenerdyguy> you assume something won't break on the weekend
14:59 < Casteil> spent like 24+ hours this last weekend researching / coming up with a .NET Core + Angular/Material proof of concept for a rewrite of our in-house webapp (and learning for my own sake)
15:00 < Casteil> a lot of it was just learning, boss is like "did you log those hours? you should be getting paid for that"
15:00 < Casteil> ("even if you're doing it partially for personal learning")
15:01 < nyox> I want to get paid for learning things over the weekend.
15:02 < Casteil> I feel kinda bad; I'm really not about to claim the full 30+ hours I've personally spent researching/learning angular
15:02 <@cryptic1> why not?
15:02 <+giant_it_burrit> ill claim it
15:02 <+giant_it_burrit> fuck it
15:03 <+giant_it_burrit> was it for work
15:03 <+giant_it_burrit> then claim the hours
15:03 < Casteil> partly
15:03 < vinrock> im playing detective today
15:03 < McDonaldsWiFi> mornin fellas!
15:03 <+giant_it_burrit> you are learning because you are going to rewrite an inhouse app
15:03 < vinrock> someone stole a box of steroids from a pallet that came out of a container yesterday
15:03 < Casteil> I'll probably end up telling him if he's intent on it, he can chuck 10 hrs
15:03 <+giant_it_burrit> Casteil: take them all
15:03 < McDonaldsWiFi> your boss sounds very reasonable Casteil
15:03 <+giant_it_burrit> stop being a shitstain
15:03 <+giant_it_burrit> he wants tp pay you
15:04 <+giant_it_burrit> you spend your free time
15:04 <+giant_it_burrit> its valuable
15:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> ^
15:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> if you were to stay after work and learn so you could fix it that would be the same right?
15:04 < Casteil> giant_it_burrit: Companies don't fucking pay you to go to college
15:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> you jsut "stayed late" at home
15:04 <+giant_it_burrit> Casteil: some do
15:04 < Casteil> they might help or pay tuition, but they aren't going to pay you for th ehours you spend on coursework
15:04 < coderphive> uh
15:04 <+giant_it_burrit> i disagree
15:04 < coderphive> If you did shit for work, you bill it
15:05 < coderphive> POC's are covered in that
15:05 <+giant_it_burrit> its better for them to have you learn a thing then bring in someone new
15:05 < Casteil> Ok find me a company policy that states they pay for course work learning hours
15:05 <+giant_it_burrit> you did it off hours
15:05 < coderphive> and?
15:05 <+giant_it_burrit> your boss signed off
15:05 < Casteil> giant_it_burrit: Definitely, I'm not arguing that
15:05 <+giant_it_burrit> theres your policy
15:05 < Casteil> (re: learn than bring in someone new)
15:05 < coderphive> wat
15:05 < coderphive> bruh
15:06 < coderphive> We literally have RO friday at my co for a reason
15:06 < Casteil> I think he sees me as an alternative to hiring a new frontend guy and I think I'm OK with that
15:06 < coderphive> I, as a boss, benefit from you learning new things
15:06 < humpaxx> Does anyone here use a unifi US-8 switch?
15:06 < coderphive> Learning new things does not affect my hiring decisions, if anything it makes me hire more
15:06 < khelpw> we have RO friday here for a reason too. Namely I don't want to do things.
15:06 < Casteil> coderphive: the thing is, I get paid OT
15:06 < coderphive> okay
15:06 < coderphive> Obviously his project has overtime
15:06 <+giant_it_burrit> did he ok it?
15:07 <+giant_it_burrit> if so then dont worry about it
15:07 < Casteil> if I claim 30h a week for 2 consecutive weeks I'm more than doubling my paycheck lol
15:07 <+giant_it_burrit> and
15:07 <+giant_it_burrit> why dont you like money?
15:07 < coderphive> That's their fault for putting you on contract
15:07 <+giant_it_burrit> you a communist?
15:07 < coderphive> That's specifically why I don't contract
15:07 < Casteil> lol
15:07 < Casteil> aaaaaaaaaanyway
15:07 <+giant_it_burrit> TAKE THE FUCKING MONEY
15:07 <+giant_it_burrit> its on your boss
15:07 < Casteil> I'm learning because I like the idea of getting into development
15:07 < Casteil> $$$
15:08 < coderphive> Well frontend is not development $$$ fyi
15:08 < McDonaldsWiFi> WAIT
15:08 < Casteil> and yes; if he's offering to pay me for discovery time I'm down
15:08 < McDonaldsWiFi> so the boss said for you to log the hours
15:08 <+giant_it_burrit> no
15:08 < McDonaldsWiFi> and you're against it?
15:08 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL?
15:08 <+giant_it_burrit> yes
15:08 < McDonaldsWiFi> but why
15:08 <+giant_it_burrit> thats why we are angry
15:08 <+giant_it_burrit> he hates money
15:08 < coderphive> That's what I'm hearing
15:08 <+giant_it_burrit> here
15:08 < McDonaldsWiFi> the company literally said they want to pay you
15:08 < McDonaldsWiFi> let them pay you lol
15:08 <+giant_it_burrit> take the money send to me
15:08 <+giant_it_burrit> boss is ahppy
15:08 < McDonaldsWiFi> ^
15:08 <+giant_it_burrit> you are happy
15:08 <+giant_it_burrit> im happy
15:08 < McDonaldsWiFi> also Casteil you don't want to set a pattern for the future
15:08 < coderphive> giant_it_burrit, does that make you a software pimp?
15:08 <+giant_it_burrit> get paid for the work you do
15:08 < McDonaldsWiFi> later on they may not want to pay you for shadow after hour work
15:09 <+giant_it_burrit> work life balance is hard to come by
15:09 < McDonaldsWiFi> ^
15:09 < Casteil> McDonaldsWiFi: Unlikely
15:09 < coderphive> That phrase is a platitude
15:09 < McDonaldsWiFi> so why are you against it really?
15:09 < McDonaldsWiFi> principle or something?
15:09 < coderphive> There's no such thing as work life balance when you spend 8 hours at work
15:09 < McDonaldsWiFi> before my job went to shit, i watched networking videos and stuff on youtube on my down time... is that unethical?
15:10 < coderphive> Change my mind
15:10 < Casteil> because I don't feel like I was particularly efficient over those 30 hours, basically
15:10 < coderphive> Casteil, efficiency has nothing to do with pay
15:10 < McDonaldsWiFi> think of the times you dick around
15:10 < Casteil> and getting paid OT for something that was technically less productive.. eh
15:10 < McDonaldsWiFi> like right now yuo're on IRC
15:10 < coderphive> Company's pay Oracle all the time
15:10 < McDonaldsWiFi> clock out now xD
15:10 < coderphive> if efficiency was a thing, they wouldn't pay Oracle
15:10 < coderphive> js
15:10 < Casteil> < not on OT right now :P
15:10 <+giant_it_burrit> Casteil: are you efficent while you are pooping?
15:10 < Casteil> meh w/e
15:11 < McDonaldsWiFi> watch this come back to bite his dept in the ass because they went hella ove rbudget lol
15:11 < McDonaldsWiFi> xDD
15:11 < McDonaldsWiFi> srsly though, if my boss told me to take it... I'd take it.
15:11 < McDonaldsWiFi> It's on him at that point since you were pretty clear about what you did
15:11 < coderphive> McDonaldsWiFi, That's their fault because they contract
15:11 <+giant_it_burrit> cya print the email save it somewhere etc
15:11 < coderphive> Contracting sucks yo
15:11 < McDonaldsWiFi> giant_it_burrit: ++
15:11 < Casteil> basically
15:12 < coderphive> We don't hire contractors here, you get full time + benefits
15:12 < coderphive> kthx done
15:12 < McDonaldsWiFi> coderphive i work for an electrical contractor now, shit is CUT THROAT
15:12 < Casteil> I built myself a proof of concept project
15:12 <+giant_it_burrit> Casteil: why do you want to get me so worked up
15:12 < McDonaldsWiFi> oh you mean he's a contractor
15:12 <+giant_it_burrit> yes
15:12 < Casteil> and 'gave' that to the company
15:12 < McDonaldsWiFi> giant_it_burrit is gonna have a stroke
15:12 < McDonaldsWiFi> he's gonna be giant_brain_clot
15:12 < Casteil> giant_it_burrit: you're getting yourself worked up
15:13 <+giant_it_burrit> why wont you ket ne help you
15:13 < coderphive> Casteil, you are actually a very triggering person
15:13 < Casteil> calm your shit
15:13 < McDonaldsWiFi> when I get phone call at home after hours I always log 15 min minimum....
15:13 < coderphive> like joins from you should include a trigger warning
15:13 < Casteil> also, I"m not a contractor
15:13 < McDonaldsWiFi> even for password resets
15:13 < Casteil> McDonaldsWiFi: Yeah. That's something I should be better about honestly
15:13 < coderphive> Casteil, you're an hourly employee?
15:13 < Casteil> I answer "calls" (emails) all the time
15:13 < Casteil> coderphive: yes
15:13 < coderphive> :|
15:14  * coderphive stares into the abyss
15:14 < Casteil> uh, ok?
15:14 < coderphive> Give me your CEO's phone number so I can fire your CTO
15:14 < Casteil> ...
15:15 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
15:15 < McDonaldsWiFi> well guys you tried
15:15 < McDonaldsWiFi> Casteil is an adult and can do as he pleases
15:15 < coderphive> we have different definitions of pleasing
15:15 < JollyRgrs> i'm sorry ms. jackson
15:15 < JollyRgrs> OOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
15:15 < Casteil> last time they tried to put me on salary the salary rate they offered was basically what I made after OT over the previous year
15:15 < JollyRgrs> i am fo real
15:15 < McDonaldsWiFi> (I am fooo realll)
15:15 < McDonaldsWiFi> shit I spelled foo and not fo
15:16 < McDonaldsWiFi> brb while i kms
15:16 < coderphive> Casteil, what's your job title?
15:16 < Casteil> so instead they just gave me a 15% hourly raise when I transitioned to "software coordination" (that's the most succinct name I can put on what I currently do)
15:16 < JollyRgrs> coderphive: Casteil's title is "a baby momma's momma"
15:16 < coderphive> lmao
15:16 < JollyRgrs> i'm sorry mc Casteil
15:16 < JollyRgrs> s/mc/ms
15:16 < coderphive> Never meant to break you down to cry a million times Ms Casteil
15:17 < JollyRgrs> me and yo' daughta... got this special thang goin on
15:17 < alazare619> welp my steamlink and controller should arrive today
15:17 < alazare619> thats exciting
15:17 < Casteil> I'm kind of a crazy combination of business analyst, software documentation, implementation, jira administrator, QA/debugger... very small team
15:17 < JFDkthx> im falling asleep in the serverroom
15:17 < JFDkthx> T.T
15:17 < Casteil> JFDkthx: 10/10
15:18 < coderphive> so
15:18 < coderphive> you're a Middleware Admin
15:18 < coderphive> k
15:18 < Casteil> middleware admin? where do you get that from?
15:18 < coderphive> I DISCONNECT THE CABLE AND TURN THE LIGHTS OUT
15:19 < JollyRgrs> coderphive: tell that to the Bobs
15:19 < JFDkthx> time for a walk
15:19 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, Done got your ass sent up the creek G
15:19 < Casteil> my official title is software testing & implementation associate lol
15:19 < JollyRgrs> i'm gonna hate myself this afternoon (or even early morning)
15:20 < JFDkthx> JollyRgrs: i already hate you
15:20 < JollyRgrs> i might have accidentally my house internet last night
15:20 < JFDkthx> #burn
15:20 < JFDkthx> the whole thing?
15:20 < JollyRgrs> possibly while trying to do traffic shaping to cut off visiting family from using torrents
15:20 < coderphive> lmao
15:20 < JollyRgrs> i accidentally in the wrong part and basically shaped * traffic, not just BT traffic
15:20 < coderphive> I did that when I installed Advanced Tomato
15:21 < JollyRgrs> lemme tell you.... having no connection to your firewall... to change that rule back... sucks
15:21 < coderphive> I think my girlfriend is entertained by my tinkering up until the point that I fuck with Netflix
15:21 < JollyRgrs> and virsh console was not working
15:22 < JollyRgrs> so i had to connect from workstation to kvm using virt-manager while the VM was down... then bring it up with the console gui up... and i had limited time to find a good backup config to replace before it cut me off again
15:22 < coderphive> :o
15:22 < abakedapplepie> lol
15:22 < JollyRgrs> coderphive: i don't feel that bad... this is my bro in law and his wife... who have put off work in the past b/c they needed to save their dinosaurs or something
15:22 < abakedapplepie> what are you using for a router
15:23 < abakedapplepie> shouldnt you have some sort of unrestricted management vlan
15:23 < JollyRgrs> they came in about 1 or 2am monday night... and once they woke up, they were pretty mcuh gaming the whole day
15:23 < JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: pfsense
15:23 < JollyRgrs> i don't have mult. vlans setup right now
15:23 < JollyRgrs> not a bad idea
15:23  * JollyRgrs makes mental note
15:23 < abakedapplepie> oh yeah pfsense
15:23 < abakedapplepie> is super easy to shoot yourself in the foot with
15:23 < abakedapplepie> lol
15:23 < abakedapplepie> ive had to throw away a pfsense VM before
15:24 < abakedapplepie> rip
15:24 < JollyRgrs> esp when you have NFC what you are doing with traffic shaping, it's 1am, and you shoulda never started that alte
15:24 < coderphive> James Blunt sounds dump on EDM
15:24 < coderphive> js
15:24 < JollyRgrs> i didn't wanna throw it away, i ahve my openvpn setup on there and my port fwding rules
15:24 < McDonaldsWiFi> poenvpn yisssss
15:24 < McDonaldsWiFi> openvpn*
15:24  * coderphive sets mode +b Code_Man65!*@*
15:24 < JollyRgrs> coderphive: pls to be explaining what sounding dump means to this old fogey
15:24 < abakedapplepie> i  use pfsense as a firewall for my dedi hyper-v host
15:24 < abakedapplepie> its neat
15:25 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, I meant dope but I have autism
15:25 < coderphive> and add
15:25 < abakedapplepie> and the added obscurity layer is nice for a remote dedi
15:25 < abakedapplepie> theres only like 2 ports open on all my IPs
15:25 < abakedapplepie> and i have all my remote ingress ports on a separate IP entirely
15:26 < abakedapplepie> no ssh on any hosting ips
15:26 < Hatter> good morning
15:26 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, also reading pfsense this early in the morning triggered my cerebellum
15:26 < coderphive> like, honestly not responsible of you at all
15:26 < abakedapplepie> a lot better than paying $100 a month for OVH's virtual ASA
15:26 < coderphive> https://play.google.com/music/m/Tt7els2xedfyml3n3msfu4ayrpm?t=OK_feat_James_Blunt_Bluntys_Johnny_Vix_Mix_-_Robin_Schulz
15:27 < coderphive> swedish house is my guilty pleasure
15:27 < coderphive> really house in general
15:28 < coderphive> alright I need to do some actual work today
15:28 < coderphive> because I'm learning more go on the clock Casteil
15:28 < threwahway> IRC needs emoji
15:28 < Casteil> unpossable
15:29 < Casteil> fucking visual studio..
15:29 < Casteil> change App URL from localhost to 0.0.0.0 to try to access it from outside devices.. "Unable to connect to web server 'IIS Express'. "Specified cast is not valid.""
15:29 < Casteil> change it back immediately to what it was, same error... no changes to the project for a commit
15:30 < Hatter> I've done something to my back, I can't much turn my head and I'm in some pain
15:31 < Hatter> will it be like this forever?
15:31 < mrghostman> near shoulder blade Hatter?
15:31 < Hatter> yes
15:31 < mrghostman> happens to me quite often
15:31 < khelpw> Start saving for one of the nice wheelchairs now
15:31 < mrghostman> not sure exactly what it is, but it goes away after a few days
15:31 < abakedapplepie> my back goes out 4-5 times a year
15:31 < abakedapplepie> so in a way, yes, it will be like that forever
15:31 < khelpw> ^^ you're fine, champ
15:33 < Hatter> well I'm not in a great mood as a result, so please refrain from any teasing or hurtful remarks today
15:33 < Hatter> maybe put that in the topic
15:34 < khelpw> Anyone remember that episode of Louis where he fucks up his back reaching for a Dildo on a high shelf? He goes to an ortho doc who says, when asked how to fix this, something to the near effect of "You need to evolve further. You see humans have only been walking entirely upright for a relatively brief amount of time, we are meant to knuckle along like apes, not stumble around in a constant controlled state of falling
15:34 < khelpw> forward"?
15:35 < Nightcinder> mm fun job ahead
15:35 < Nightcinder> moving our db server from 192.168 and server 08 r2/sql 08 to 10.x and server 16/sql 17
15:36 < coderphive> SO TELL ME NOW
15:36 < coderphive> When every star falls from the sky
15:36 < coderphive> And every last heart in the world breaks
15:36 <@Code_Man65> What Nightcinder?
15:36 < Nightcinder> til coderphive is a dirty normie
15:36 < coderphive> RIP
15:36 < JollyRgrs> Hatter: upper back or lower back? (sounds like upper if issue moving head)
15:36 < Nightcinder> Code_Man65: what about it
15:36 < Hatter> yes
15:36 < Hatter> I wasn't trying to make a big deal of it guys
15:36 <@Code_Man65> Oh I follow now, didn't read it right
15:36 < coderphive> OMGGGG
15:37 < Hatter> I was just venting a little
15:37 < Hatter> but I appreciate your concern
15:37 < coderphive> Groovy can die
15:37 < coderphive> jesus
15:37 < Nightcinder> we're running into issues with our 08 r2 standard server lol
15:37 < Nightcinder> 32GB max RAM is rather annoying.
15:37 < Nightcinder> i want to give it 128GB
15:37 <@Code_Man65> The OS doesn't have that limitation, does SQL 08?
15:38 < Nightcinder> 08 r2 standard does indeed have a 32GB limitation
15:38 < abakedapplepie> the OS does, Code_Man65
15:38 < abakedapplepie> retail standard does
15:38 < Nightcinder> enterprise doesn't, but standard does
15:38 < abakedapplepie> enterprise does not
15:38 <@Code_Man65> Oh, that's back when they did stupid shit like that
15:38 < corn266> but standard does
15:38 < abakedapplepie> yup.
15:38 < coderphive> Nightcinder, you should move your DB to 192.168.1.1
15:38 < Nightcinder> noty
15:39 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, not necessarily
15:39 < coderphive> I broke my lower back and feel it in my upper quite often
15:39 < coderphive> muscles mane
15:41 < coderphive> TIL I can run tests in parallel in Go
15:41 < coderphive> that's amazing
15:42 < corn266> "TIL I can use a language ment for parallel programming to test a parallel program"
15:43 < coderphive> Don't hate because I came from C and Python you nasty
15:43  * corn266 hates
15:43 < coderphive> >:|
15:43 < nyox> real men come from ASM x86
15:44 < coderphive> that's true. I'm actually a cuck.
15:44 < humpaxx> Does FTP use some kind of address headers so you can use some kind of reverse proxy juju with it?
15:44 < coderphive> Also, I don't find it coincidental that bmurt and felda joined at the same time
15:45 < bmurt> we're both bots
15:45 <@Code_Man65> humpaxx:  Don't use FTP, it transmits everything in the clear
15:45 < coderphive> on the same shitty e-machines server bmurt?
15:45 < JollyRgrs> coderphive: yeah, with teh whole nerves down the spine thing, i guess anything is possible
15:45 < bmurt> yessir
15:45 < bmurt> but they're actually Raq boxes
15:45 < JollyRgrs> i severely hurt my back a while ago (10 yrs+ now)... still gives me issues from time to time
15:45 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, I've literally gotten physically ill from things my back has done to me
15:45 < humpaxx> Code_Man65: How else do you upload stuff to a webserver?
15:45 <@Code_Man65> SFTP
15:45 < coderphive> Chiropractor ftw
15:46 < threwahway> dude its 2018
15:46 < JollyRgrs> coderphive: i got that feeling like my spine was going to collapse on itself at my lower back
15:46 < Hatter> JollyRgrs: doing what
15:46 < khelpw> Chiro = short term relief. Ortho = long term solution.
15:46 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, do you have compressed discs?
15:46 < deww> JollyRgrs: does something need replacement?
15:46 < khelpw> Chiro = often 2 year degree, ortho = graduate degree.
15:46 < ebol4> orthodontist make your teeth straight
15:46 < JollyRgrs> Hatter: 2 of us installing a dual receiver setup (expensive, heavy ones)... he messed up and wired up the first one that shoulda been on top...
15:46 < Hatter> I thought all chiropractors were charlatans
15:46 < khelpw> No, orthopedist ebol4
15:46 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, if you lose weight it'll go almost away
15:46 < threwahway> chiro is LITERAL GARBAGE
15:46 < JollyRgrs> so i reached OVER a ladder, and held the entire shelf up while he setup the new oen below it
15:46 < deww> wow
15:46 < khelpw> Hatter: they are, mostly but some of the "adjustments" they do can provide some short term relief
15:46 < ebol4> orthodontist make your teeth straight, orthopedist make your spine straight
15:46 < Hatter> threwahway knows what I'm talking about
15:47 < khelpw> IMO, you're probably better off getting a massage.
15:47 < JollyRgrs> coderphive: i had the issue before i got married (read: before i let go)
15:47 < coderphive> threwahway, not if you have back issues
15:47 < coderphive> If you're trying to cure cancer, yes
15:47 < threwahway> coderphive you dont know what ur talkin about bruh
15:47 < threwahway> chiro is garbage
15:47 < Hatter> don't fight guys
15:47 < threwahway> started by a quack
15:47 < coderphive> o ok
15:47 < coderphive> Sure
15:47 < abakedapplepie> my long time family doctor was originally trained as an orthopedic
15:47 < abakedapplepie> he does "adjustments" on my back
15:47 < abakedapplepie> that are fucking insane
15:47 < Hatter> started by a quack, who was later murdered by his son
15:48 < Hatter> I think
15:48 < coderphive> threwahway, what they do to your back is the same thing an MD will do
15:48 < threwahway> with no scientific evidence to back it up. any "chiro" worth their weight is actually a physical therapist
15:48 <@Code_Man65> Philisophical debate on chrio's, that's a new one
15:48 < abakedapplepie> its just temporary relief but the stuff he does
15:48 < khelpw> Hatter: I tried going to a chiro for about a year to see if any difference could be made with my back pain. In my experience they do provide some short term relief, but no real long term solution to problems
15:48 < abakedapplepie> is crazy
15:48 < coderphive> threwahway, it grew to legitimacy from that. You're missing an entire period of progression.
15:48 < threwahway> because like homeopathy, chiro that actually worked is now physical therapy
15:48 < threwahway> no dude
15:48 < threwahway> no
15:48 < coderphive> threwahway, Doctors used to think rubbing mustard on people and giving babies whiskey was a magical cure
15:48 < JollyRgrs> i want one of those inversion table things to hang on
15:48 < coderphive> so idk what warped sense of reality you live in
15:48 < Hatter> JollyRgrs: that sounds really nice right now
15:49 < abakedapplepie> there is no part of homeopathy that actually does anything
15:49 < JollyRgrs> blood letting is one of my fav old doctor fixes
15:49 < threwahway> LOL dude im literally saying that chiro is the rubbing mustard on people of today
15:49 < JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: is weed considered homeopathy?
15:49 < abakedapplepie> no
15:49 < threwahway> no
15:49 < abakedapplepie> homeopathy is the whole water has memory thing
15:49 < khelpw> My orthopedist gave me a list of things to work out different muscles in my back to strengthen them and prevent future injury etc
15:49 < coderphive> threwahway, having your back cracked is not mustard rubbing
15:49 < threwahway> yeah it is
15:49 < coderphive> Okay
15:49 < Hatter> I feel like rubbing some mustard on my neck might help
15:49 < coderphive> well you think that
15:49 < threwahway> its worse than that actually
15:50 < ebol4> mustard rub sounds delicious
15:50 < coderphive> You got back pain?
15:50 < coderphive> I imagine not
15:50 < JollyRgrs> nothing better for me than laying on a floor/bed on my stomach, then leaving lower half still and rotating my top half
15:50 < threwahway> dude the entire practice of chiro is based on something that DOES NOT EXIST
15:50 < khelpw> tbh, I went to 2 different chiros in that year, they both did the exact same routine every time I went
15:50 < JollyRgrs> the most wonderous back cracks ever
15:50 < coderphive> The shit a chiro does is the same thing a physical therapist does
15:50 < khelpw> not true coderphive
15:50 < threwahway> no its not
15:50 < khelpw> been to both, following a car accident.
15:50 < threwahway> but some physical therapists are chiropracters
15:50 < coderphive> It's the same thing all mine did at the VA
15:50 < coderphive> so idk what kind of witch craft you're having done
15:51 < coderphive> essential oils and fire dancing w/e
15:51 < JollyRgrs> can we just agree they are both 4 sided
15:51 < JollyRgrs> just some are squares, while the rest are only rectangles
15:51 < khelpw> generally a hot pack, electro-stimulator (which did nothing) and then 3 or 4 "adjustments" to my back and upper neck
15:51 < threwahway> sublexation DOES NOT EXIST
15:51 < threwahway> therefore chiro IS NOT REAL
15:51 < coderphive> okay
15:51 < coderphive> sure
15:51 < coderphive> The guy that cracks my back is real and the shit helps
15:52 < coderphive> feel better?
15:52 < Hatter> coderphive: when you say "sure" like that it sounds disingenous
15:52 < ebol4> what if he's actually injuring you in a way that feels good so you have to come back for the rest of your life
15:52 < mrghostman> i had electro-stimulator done on my back after i got injured.  after i felt like i could lift a house
15:52 < threwahway> he meant it to be that way
15:52 < khelpw> Those adjustments did provide temporary relief, but the physical therapist on the other hand had me doing exercises using 1-2lb weights and controlled movements to help and I no longer suffer from back pain about 85% of the time
15:52 < coderphive> Hatter, because I don't give a fuck about the semantics of it?
15:52 < Hatter> woaaaah why are you swearing at me
15:52 < abakedapplepie> just because the scientific theory behind it is completely made up doesnt mean that the benefits dont exist
15:52 < khelpw> as opposed to the chiro where I'd feel better for the rest of the day, maybe a day or two after, and then back to feeling shitty
15:52 < ekaj_> s/sublexation/suplex-nation
15:52 < coderphive> Hatter, because I swear constantly?
15:52 < coderphive> I swear in talks too, maybe you should avoid them
15:52 < threwahway> forget hatter lets keep digging that idiot hole uve got going haha
15:53 < khelpw> I know it's all subjective and incidental, but that was my experience with it.
15:53 < khelpw> Nowadays, if my back is sore I just get a massage.
15:53 < coderphive> threwahway, I don't really care about the practice of chiropractics
15:53 < threwahway> khelpw thats everyones experience, if they have a brain
15:53 < khelpw> feels better and the massage therapists are usually cuter.
15:53 < coderphive> threwahway, I work out and I'm in shape, so a 2 lb weight does nothing for me
15:53 < khelpw> wrongo
15:53 < khelpw> I am in shape as well, different set of muscles my dude
15:53 < coderphive> I have nerves that get pinched and need relief
15:53 <@Code_Man65> khelpw:  Just be careful if they offer happy endings.  I saw a massage parlor raided by cops twice when my dad owned his own business behind one.
15:54 < threwahway> so go to a massage like everyone else
15:54 < khelpw> right, they get pinched because the muscles that hold your back in position are not strong enough to do so
15:54 < threwahway> chiro is garbage
15:54 < coderphive> They crack that shit and I _do_ feel immediate relief
15:54 < abakedapplepie> coderphive i dont think you have any idea what physical therapy actually is my dude
15:54 < coderphive> abakedapplepie, sure I do
15:54 < abakedapplepie> it doesnt sound like it lol
15:54 < threwahway> but its not DOING anything other than making you FEEL something
15:54 < khelpw> Code_Man65: I just bought a massage table and told my girlfriend to watch youtube videos lol
15:54 < Hatter> threwahway: I agree completely, that's why I've turned to acupuncture
15:54 < mrghostman> chiro is centered around temporary relief, which keeps you coming back over and over
15:54 < khelpw> get all the happy endings I want that way
15:54 < coderphive> jesus
15:55 <@Code_Man65> khelpw:  Well that gets around that issue
15:55 < coderphive> You guys hate on chiro but then do accupuncture
15:55 < coderphive> fuck me
15:55 < khelpw> Lol
15:55 < threwahway> dude thats one guy
15:55 < JollyRgrs> hahahahaha
15:55 < threwahway> and im pretty sure hes fucking with u
15:55 < coderphive> Hatter is not that good at trolling
15:55 < Hatter> Are you sure?
15:55 < coderphive> yes
15:55 < coderphive> ur bad kid
15:55 < Hatter> that's not nice
15:55 < coderphive> ^
15:55 < khelpw> true. Everyone knows the real solution is the thing where they poke at your feet.
15:55 < coderphive>  this is not a long-troll
15:56 < coderphive> anyway, point being
15:56 < threwahway> the chat has spoken
15:56 <@Code_Man65> threwahway:  Is that what she said?
15:56 < coderphive> I have real back issues, I see a physical therapist. When it gets to the point where my leg goes entirely numb like it doesn't exist I go to a chiro, they pop it and I can get to a point where I can start moving again.
15:57 < estranger> I did chiro, want to try acupuncture too
15:57 < khelpw> nobody is denying that Code_Man65
15:57 < threwahway> you could just tell your PT
15:57 < felda> Code_Man65 what are you doing back?
15:57 < khelpw> d'oh coderphive  rather
15:57 < estranger> coderphive, yeah i had a chiro do that thing where you try to stop him from moving your leg in certain directions... and he finds a direction that you cant fucking stop
15:57 < estranger> then they crack your back and re-test... and you can stop it easily now.  cool stuff
15:57 <@Code_Man65> felda:  Last two days we had a vendor on site so I was too busy to be in irc
15:57 < khelpw> what people are saying is that if you want to have your leg stop going numb and have long-term solutions to your problems you should see an actual doctor
15:58 < felda> Code_Man65 what did you put in your vending machine?
15:58 <@Code_Man65> felda:  A cloud management platform
15:58 < coderphive> khelpw, I'm not going to call you an idiot
15:58 < felda> noice?
15:58 < coderphive> but there's no long term solution to my problem
15:58 < coderphive> It's get a disk fusion
15:58 < coderphive> if you think that's a good idea, I feel bad for you
15:58 < khelpw> Seek better doctors.
15:58 < estranger> ive done physical therapy, pain therapy (mmmmmm awesome), chiropractors for my back.. all had some form of success but every back issue is different
15:58 < felda> In other news my coworkers are really trying to get me to buy into Dave Ramsey
15:58 < coderphive> khelpw, you are high
15:58 < felda> please send help
15:59 < Hatter> coderphive: I was just kidding about the acupuncture of course
15:59 <@Code_Man65> felda:  Hire a hitman?
15:59 < threwahway> "im not going to call you an idiot" > proceeds to spout idiocy
15:59 < felda> "Felda just buy the book it's $100 and it will solve all your problems!"
15:59 < Hatter> coderphive: and for the record, I'm pretty good at trolling
15:59 < estranger> I got a degenerated disc, it's fun
15:59 < corn266> felda "his debt pay off plans are good, but his investment strategies are trash and I don't have any debt"
15:59 < feldaRamsey> DO YOU SUCK AT PFSENSE?!
15:59 < estranger> the shot right in my spine was the best though, but i dont want that often
15:59 < feldaRamsey> BUY MY BOOK FOR $420 AND BECOME A GOD
16:00 < feldaRamsey> pls buy my book its def not a scam >_>
16:00 <@Code_Man65> estranger:  Oh god, I draw the line at a needle in my spine.
16:00  * corn266 claps in 69s
16:00 < khelpw> You remember that part where I mentioned that car accident? I had a C7 injury that could have crippled me.
16:00 < coderphive> threwahway, kek, hit me up when you've got a broken back
16:00 < threwahway> i have MS u fucking moron
16:00 < estranger> Code_Man65, it was amazing though.. kinda scary they need to use a live xray machine while doing it though
16:00 < Hatter> people really do take their backs personally
16:00 < khelpw> lol
16:00 < Hatter> I didn't know I would start such a heated conversation
16:00 < coderphive> you don't go to a fucking chiro for MS
16:00 < genr8_> my dad's back is worse than your dad's back
16:00 < coderphive> this debate is completely retarded
16:01 < estranger> can we go back to kubernetes and stateful workloads instead?  :P
16:01 < coderphive> estranger, no, k8s is a lie and bare-metal is the only way per threwahway
16:01 <@Code_Man65> estranger:  Yeah, no thanks.  Way back in 2007 they wanted to do a spinal tap on me to test the fluid due to a really bad migraine and I declined that shit.
16:01 < estranger> Code_Man65, ist a much much much smaller needle than a spinal tap
16:02 < genr8_> its like checking the dipstick on a car engine
16:02 < niklasye> estranger did you say k8s? what about it? I eat and shit k8s
16:02 <@Code_Man65> Don't care estranger
16:02 <@Code_Man65> Needle in back = no
16:02 < deww> :(
16:02 < estranger> niklasye, "K8s is not ready for every workload" as the discussion yesterday... your thoughts?
16:02 < estranger> s/as/was
16:02 < coderphive> oh lawd
16:03 < coderphive> can we correct that phrasing
16:03 < corn266> Code_Man65, well I'm glad you didn't wake up the other night
16:03 < estranger> how would you correct it
16:03 < DomLS3> Code_Man65: what about needle in front?
16:03 < coderphive> k8s is not ready for datacenter workloads because dc's are too cheap to buy distributed block storage
16:03 < niklasye> estranger I didn't see the discussion yesterday, problems with statefulsets?
16:03 <@Code_Man65> DomLS3:  I'm generally not a fan of needles.
16:04 < coderphive> "I want a distributed system without investing in distributed block storage"
16:04 < estranger> niklasye, stateful sets + local storage + shared nothing architectures
16:04 < DomLS3> Code_Man65: but are you a fan of opnsense?
16:04 < coderphive> Said by a marketing guy that runs the DC
16:04 < DomLS3> rekt
16:04 < coderphive> esnesfp
16:04 < niklasye> estranger I see, well it's possible but it's a pain, you lose some of the point of running in k8s
16:05 < coderphive> kek
16:05 < estranger> niklasye, yup.
16:05 < corn266> So we're using this https://imgur.com/sGgJpY4 to train pictures of rocks
16:05 < threwahway> people using kek outside of a world of warcraft /say lulululululululul
16:06 < coderphive> problem sets like this one remind me of why people left the DC in the first place
16:06 < humpaxx>  to train pictures of rocks
16:06 < Nightcinder> A timeout (30000 milliseconds) was reached while waiting for a transaction response from the iphlpsvc service. A timeout (30000 milliseconds) was reached while waiting for a transaction response from the NlaSvc service.A timeout (30000 milliseconds) was reached while waiting for a transaction response from the ShellHWDetection service.
16:06 < Nightcinder> hmmm
16:06 < estranger> local storage Stateful sets arent GA yet either.. use at your own risk
16:06 < genr8_> IP Helper and network location awareness
16:07 < coderphive> threwahway, are you just going to be a triggered little bitch all morning?
16:07 < Nightcinder> it takes me like 3 minutes to login to a terminal server
16:07 < Nightcinder> and those come up
16:07 < genr8_> ugh
16:07 < technonerd> anybody seen a $1500 ipad case
16:07 < technonerd> its bomb proof
16:07 < estranger> grr this guy aint showign up for his meeting
16:07 < corn266> should protect against the note7 battery then
16:08 < technonerd> the ipad is more valuable than the employee
16:08 < Nightcinder> idk how to fix that
16:08 < abakedapplepie> corn266: those arent rocks
16:08 < estranger> niklasye, have you heard of diamanti?
16:08 < genr8_> Nightcinder: just reduce the size of the profile
16:08 < niklasye> estranger nope?
16:09 < coderphive> pretty sure the implosion of a bomb would destroy any electronic device
16:09 < genr8_> the login is taking so long its causing random other timeouts
16:09 < corn266> abakedapplepie, we're using the domain transfer (the brown to blonde hair, the young to old, etc.) to generate pics of different rocks
16:09 < estranger> niklasye, ok :) dont think anyonehas lol just looking for opinions on them before I talk to them.  they have a hardware device for running your containers/k8s and they want to try and wow me
16:10 < ebol4> everyone quiet down for a second
16:10 < ebol4> is chocolate candy?
16:10 < estranger> what kin of chocolate
16:10 < abakedapplepie> corn266: but those are people lol
16:10 < coderphive> ^
16:10 < coderphive> If it has sugar
16:10 < Hatter> estranger: let coderphive and threwahway debate the issue
16:10 < ebol4> like, a snickers bar, or a hershey's bar, or a bar of dark chocolate
16:10 < ebol4> are those candy?
16:10 < ebol4> a reese's cup?
16:10 < abakedapplepie> uhh, yes
16:10 < abakedapplepie> sure
16:10 < abakedapplepie> where are you going with this
16:11 < ebol4> why do you assume i have some kind of ulterior motive
16:11 < ebol4> am i evil
16:11 < abakedapplepie> are you about to pull some esoteric definition of candy that doesnt take into account decades of colloquial use
16:11 < ebol4> what do i mean to you abakedapplepie
16:11 < abakedapplepie> lol
16:11 < abakedapplepie> i just have seen where these conversations go dozens of times
16:12 < coderphive> tbh threwahway is now messaging me insults about my back
16:12 < Hatter> coderphive: display them here
16:12 < coderphive> threwahway> enjoy your shit back, loser :)
16:12 < abakedapplepie> that guy has strong opinions about chiropracty man
16:12 < Hatter> I don't think I've heard a good diss about a back before
16:12 < niklasye> estranger looks interesting, let them demo their stuff :) then tell us how it was
16:12 < ebol4> coderphive: to be fair it sounds like you got a bad back
16:12 < ebol4> i dunno about the loser part
16:13 < coderphive> I broke my back in Afghan, so honestly anyone that thinks that way can fuck right off
16:13 < Hatter> coderphive: your back is so crooked it makes Nixon look sincere
16:13 < Hatter> that's the best I could come up with
16:13 < coderphive> threwahway, go ahead and post your messages here bitch
16:14 < ebol4> yeah stand up for yourself coderphive
16:14 < ebol4> but do it slowly
16:14 < Hatter> hehehe
16:14 < coderphive> kek
16:14 < ebol4> Hatter: is chocolate candy
16:15 < coderphive> https://c-73-241-138-165.hsd1.ca.comcast.net
16:15 < coderphive> lmao
16:15 < coderphive> this idiots router is open
16:15 < coderphive> This server could not prove that it is c-73-241-138-165.hsd1.ca.comcast.net; its security certificate is from flaskdev.trickyserv.com
16:15 < Hatter> coderphive: that may be crossing the line
16:15 < coderphive> is it?
16:15 < Hatter> well some might say
16:16 < ebol4> port forward smb to his desktop
16:16 < ebol4> steal his bitcoin wallet
16:16 < niklasye> print pictures of walruses with his printer
16:17 < McDonaldsWiFi> or a big ol dickbutt
16:17 < coderphive> ^
16:17 < coderphive> I'd prefer that
16:17 < niklasye> no
16:17 < niklasye> walrus
16:17 < Hatter> niklasye: I like your style
16:17 < McDonaldsWiFi> I found an IP hitting one of our firewalls a bunch. turns out it was a botnet. I ended up sshing into the guys router and running a fork bomb
16:17 < McDonaldsWiFi> that made him stop xD
16:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> it was a bot that was part of a botnet*
16:18 < coderphive> threwahway, you should honestly be ashamed to be in this channel with a wide open router
16:18 < coderphive> much less a really shitty nginx config
16:18 < coderphive> running an even shittier flask app
16:19 < Hatter> coderphive: are you sure you'll feel good about this ugliness an hour or two from now?
16:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> dont forget the wide open VNC server running
16:20 < coderphive> Who needs to wait an hour or two?
16:20 < coderphive> I'm done. Just annoying af
16:20 < feldaRamsey> McDonaldsWiFi ur mum is like a wide open VNC server
16:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> that's mean
16:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> you shouldn't talk about a jar of ashes that way
16:21 < feldaRamsey>  ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ashes can't resist my donger
16:21 < Hatter> I thought I asked for no teasing or hurtful remarks today
16:21 < ebol4> :O
16:21 < Hatter> shoulda put it in the topic like I suggested
16:21 < feldaRamsey> I love it dry
16:21 < feldaRamsey> It's like a Texas dry rub for my donger
16:21 < coderphive> jesus
16:22 < vavkamil> u weird
16:22 < coderphive> I have never heard someone use texas dry rub in a sexual manner
16:22 < coderphive> of course it would be irc
16:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> wtf
16:22 < Hatter> coderphive: They were joking, they've never actually done that before
16:22 < niklasye> One day I will quit IT and start a camel farm
16:22 < Hatter> coderphive: Do you often take things too literally?
16:22 < Hatter> I've observed that being the case in a short time
16:22 < genr8_> yes
16:23 < coderphive> Maybe Hatter is a troll
16:23 < coderphive> idk at this point
16:23 < Hatter> nor do I
16:23 < coderphive> this is a long-troll if so
16:23 < Hatter> decades
16:24 < Nightcinder> genr8_: my profile is not large
16:24 < coderphive> Hatter, go back to engaging with shoh
16:24 < abakedapplepie> s/profile/penis
16:25 < corn266> abakedapplepie, good observation. They are people. but the mathematics transfers from people to rocks
16:25 < abakedapplepie> TIL google sees me as a rock
16:26 < JollyRgrs> s/a/THE
16:26 < corn266> If you're /actually/ interested, check out https://arxiv.org/abs/1711.09020
16:26 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, you killed the bot
16:26 < JollyRgrs> i didn't kill it, cryptic1 did
16:26 < coderphive> idk why you're trying to use it, murderer
16:26 < JollyRgrs> but it was warranted
16:26 < coderphive> conspiracy
16:27 < vavkamil> most people here might be bots
16:27 < corn266> coderphive, I killed layer8 on accident
16:28 < coderphive> D:
16:28 < coderphive> manslaughter
16:28 < coderphive> botslaughter maybe
16:28 < corn266> it was a simple `flip and it -v
16:29 < corn266> this is so sad can we give op status to layer-8
16:30 < genr8_> Nightcinder: then its bad DNS
16:35 < genr8_> maybe not, it could be a buncha other things
16:36 < corn266> Nightcinder, bad connection? How long to ping the server?
16:36 < officerrando> holy shit .
16:36 < officerrando> client had me pick up a laptop that was running slow. put it on the bench. netbook, atom proc, 2 GB RAM, Win 7 32-bit, spindle drive, running windows updates
16:37 < officerrando> theresyourproblem.jpg
16:37 < humpaxx> officerrando: Poor thing
16:37 < Nightcinder> genr8_: and corn266 nope
16:37 < Nightcinder> it's only domain admins
16:37 < JFDkthx> took a nap in my car
16:37 < officerrando> i had a whole email written up about putting in an SSD, more RAM, and just deleted it. "you need a new one." that's all. lol
16:37 < JFDkthx> i wish i could have kept sleeping
16:37 < mrghostman> s/nap/fap
16:38 < humpaxx> officerrando: He could still keep the old one as a paperweigh or lap warmer
16:38 < officerrando> for real. it's a spare, check-out for the road type deal
16:39 < officerrando> so i'm sure they fired it up, and it was like "INTERNET!! RUN ALL THE UPDATES!"
16:42 < abakedapplepie> lol
16:42 < abakedapplepie> gasping for bits
16:42 < abakedapplepie> I AM ALIIIIVE
16:43 < abakedapplepie> WHAT YEAR IS IT
16:43 < officerrando> haha, seriously
16:43 < GreyKite> Nothing like a meeting first thing in the morning to make me not wanna do shit the rest of the day
16:43 < abakedapplepie> is it really old?
16:43 < abakedapplepie> wonder if it has one of the defective atom chips?
16:43 < officerrando> i think it's really old.
16:43 < abakedapplepie> ah
16:44 < officerrando> it's a lenovo ideapad s10-3t
16:44 < abakedapplepie> 32 bit windows7 lol
16:44 < Nightcinder> ugh what i wrong with this login
16:44 < officerrando> yes
16:44 < officerrando> 2 GB RAM
16:44 < Nightcinder> i removed all excess group policies and anything that applied to admins only
16:44 < coderphive> That laptop sounds like the enterprises definition of a microservice
16:45 < Nightcinder> and nothing in event viewer
16:45 < officerrando> it's for a ~25 person non-profit
16:45 < coderphive> What do people buy laptops with 2GB of ram for
16:45 < coderphive>  /serious question
16:46 < deww> coderphive: chromebooks. old stock.
16:46 <@Code_Man65> coderphive:  Because they still think it is 2010
16:46 < coderphive> oh
16:46 < officerrando> it's probably really old. can't even really get them like that anymore
16:46 < coderphive> If people think that because most apps are web they'll get away with that they're wrong
16:46 < coderphive> Most projects are actively off-loading compute to the frontend
16:47 < coderphive> God forbid you try to run an electron app on 2GB of memory
16:47 < coderphive> RIP
16:47 < officerrando> there's a youtube video on how to take it apart that was published in 2012...
16:48 < coderphive> I actually have looked at Chromebooks as a replacement for our business user laptops
16:48 < coderphive> Any feedback?
16:48 < officerrando> they only can use webpages.
16:48 < officerrando> i don't find them to be useful at all unless you're on gsuite
16:48 < genr8_> a Lenovo Miix 320 with 4GB of ram
16:49 < felda> anyone fooling around with Ubuntu 1804?
16:50 < genr8_> or maybe you need full size 15" laptops ?
16:50 < felda> I installed the latest Mesa drivers and may have goofed my whole thing >_>
16:52 < corn266> felda, yea I did a clean install though
16:53 < felda> yeah I did a clean install of Ubuntu 1804 too
16:53 < felda> it's a side by side install with Windows 10
16:53 < felda> UEFI install
16:53 < felda> now when I login it just goes to a black screen that flickers
16:53 < corn266> should be a pretty easy "install alongside windows" option
16:53 < corn266> drivers
16:53 < felda> technically now AMD drivers are all open source using Mesa driver stack
16:54 < felda> but I installed the Gallium Nine patches and it fucked me when I rebooted
16:54 < int0x1C8> hey what's the per-admin license cost for PDQ deploy enterprise?
16:54 < corn266> It also may be windows fucking with your device, my at home version would work with mint unless I nuked the windows part
16:54 < corn266> s/would/wouldn't
16:54 < estranger> niklasye, that is my plan :) I want them to demo our software on it though (im at a vendor) ... see if I can break it
16:54 < felda> I'm not why that is happening to you
16:55 < felda> corn266 did you make sure to disable quick boot?
16:55 < felda> and secure boot
16:55 < int0x1C8> I heard its about $499 a year?
16:55 < corn266> yea quick and secure boot were off
16:55 < felda> windows locks the drive in read only mode
16:55 < corn266> even hyperthreading was off because ((windows))
16:57 < felda> weird
16:57 <@cryptic1> get back to work corn266
16:57 < felda> technically I have Windows 10 on my SSD for G A Y M I N G
16:57 < corn266> agreed, but sorry I can't help. It's usually an either/or scenario
16:57 < corn266> cryptic1, suck a choad
16:57 < felda> and Ubuntu 1804 on my 640GB WD Black because I know GNU+Linux is efficient
16:57 <@cryptic1> D:
16:58 < corn266> try removing your SSD?
16:58 < felda> I doubt the SSD is blocking me from logging in and getting a GUI environment lol
16:58 < felda> I bet it's the beta gallium nine patches i installed
16:58 < corn266> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ only thing you lose is time
16:58 < felda> like I can still get to CLI
16:58 < corn266> ooooh
16:59 < felda> but the desktop environment stays black and doesn't even render the mouse
16:59 < felda> is the problem
16:59 < felda> CTRL + F2 is bae
16:59 < felda> err
16:59 < felda> CTRL + ALT + F2
16:59 < corn266> I mean same thing was happening to me (minus the gallium nine) until windows nuked itself
16:59 < felda> weird
17:00 < felda> I do have an AMD R9 290 which is known to be super fuckey
17:00 < felda> and since I bought it second hand on ebay for cheap I can't RMA / Warranty it
17:00 < corn266> dang
17:00 < estranger> upgrade to a VGA adaptor .. you need full 256 colors for the GUI, your EGA wont cut it anymore
17:00 < corn266> but if windows was working I don't see an issue
17:01 < felda> having a weird issue in Windows where the screen will go black and the sound will stutter in a loop until I force the PC off so it is definitely something wrong with the GPU
17:01 < felda> yeah Windows works perfectly except for that black screen crash
17:01 < estranger> if yer feeling spunky, maybe a full on SUPER VGA
17:01 < felda> DVI IS BAE
17:03 < scwizard> guess what today tommorow is?
17:04 < scwizard> that's right, friday
17:04 < estranger> gonna be a hot one this weekend
17:04 < corn266> `yt friday
17:04 < corn266> nope doesn't seem like it's friday scwizard
17:04 < scwizard> corn266: tomorrow isn't friday?
17:05 < F34RInc> gotta get down
17:05 < corn266> nope tomorrow is monday
17:05 < spstarr> Any Jenkins folks around?
17:05 < spstarr> why is this illegal - https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/xNlTG7sWWDVHsk-pzXnLtw/raw ?
17:06  * abakedapplepie calls the cops 
17:06 < spstarr> :P
17:06 < corn266> hey spstarr, knock knock
17:06 < spstarr> hello
17:06 < spstarr> corn266: you know why?
17:07 < corn266> IT'S THE FUCING COPS
17:07 < spstarr> pfft
17:07 < scwizard> spstarr: is this is a jekinsfile?
17:07 < spstarr> ya
17:07 < scwizard> damn makes me appreciate that gitlab does yaml
17:07 < spstarr> im trying to clone two git repos on one slave but using two workspaces for each
17:07 < scwizard> i'm def a bit yaml fan
17:07 < spstarr> and its saying its illegalz
17:09 < scwizard> generally if you're trying to do a build where you're cloning/checking out two repos at once
17:09 < scwizard> it's best to just combine them into one repo
17:09 < scwizard> otherwise you'll get a headache
17:09 < scwizard> that's my experiance
17:11 < spstarr> except i don't want into one repo..
17:11 < spstarr> because Elixir (mix) doesn't seem to cache object files
17:11 < scwizard> but if you really can't do that one possibility is to do the clone/checkout or whatever via the script rather than via jenkins
17:11 < spstarr> so having two jobs using same repo causing it to recompile while the other job is trying to run tests
17:12 < spstarr> So i need each workspace separate they will compile in separate docker containers on the slave VM
17:12 < scwizard> i'm confuse
17:12 < scwizard> so if you have them both in one repo what goes wrong
17:13 < scwizard> you first stage compiles then for the second stage you have two jobs running in paralell and they recompile or what?
17:13 < scwizard> you're def trying to do two things in parallel, which makes sense, but what are you trying to do in parallelthat you can't with a combined repo
17:14 < scwizard> in essense, I can't imagine how checking out one big repo twice could be any different from checking out two repos twice each
17:14 < scwizard> you wind up with the same basis either way
17:14 < scwizard> like the files should be exactly the same
17:15 < estranger> holy shit a woman on roller skates just went past my house
17:15  * estranger checks what year it is
17:15 < mrghostman> skates or blades?
17:16 < scwizard> so in austin apparently roller derby is a huge deal
17:16 < estranger> mrghostman, skates! 4 wheels in a square
17:16 < mrghostman> wow
17:16 < estranger> oh yeah roller derby.. i forgot about that
17:16 < coderphive> scwizard, what's your actual problem?
17:16 < scwizard> like if you have short hair and you're bi/lesbian and you're not doing roller derby you've missed the boat
17:16 < estranger> she looked good though
17:16 < scwizard> coderphive: it's spstarr's problem their jenkins file is illegal https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/xNlTG7sWWDVHsk-pzXnLtw/raw
17:17 < coderphive> is it an issue with compiling an elixir app on the same worker?
17:17 < scwizard> yeah something like that
17:17 < scwizard> its def elixiir
17:17 < scwizard> [10:11] <spstarr> except i don't want into one repo.. [10:11] <spstarr> because Elixir (mix) doesn't seem to cache object files
17:18 < coderphive> so what I did to solve this with Java was compilation in Docker
17:18 < coderphive> obv there's a learning curve there, but it can be done efficiently and safely
17:18 < scwizard> he's trying to do that, but there's this issue with having multiple repos and trying to do something with both at once
17:18 < coderphive> oh
17:19 < scwizard> so i suggested combining the repos into one
17:19 < coderphive> yeah, he's missing cached files so the build takes forever
17:19 < coderphive> Jenkins has the concept of caching artifacts
17:19 < coderphive> Though that runs with it's own set of issues iirc
17:19 < scwizard> yeah gitlab has the same
17:20 < coderphive> Artifact caching took me a bit to grok
17:20 < scwizard> but like, with both you can finely control how/where/what's cached i'm pretty sure
17:20 < coderphive> You can, I think it's the initial pattern that's hardest to establish
17:21 < scwizard> tbh gitlab was a lot easier for me to learn than jenkins
17:21 < scwizard> because it's less modular
17:21 < coderphive> Well, unpopular opinion: jenkins is a mess
17:21 < scwizard> which means more offical docs on various use cases
17:21 < scwizard> well it's not that unpopular
17:21 < coderphive> Jenkins does have better built in reporting
17:21 < scwizard> hence gitlab surgin
17:21 < scwizard> and travis
17:21 < coderphive> You could develop similar reporting with setting up an API though
17:21 < scwizard> but yeah def glad to be using gitlab at currentjob
17:21 < coderphive> It's just built in to Jenkins
17:22 < scwizard> its so modern and nice
17:22 < spstarr> doh
17:22 < scwizard> even if it's fuckingbuggy
17:22 < spstarr> build engineering team tells me our plugin version is too old..
17:22 < scwizard> and you don't have to self host
17:22 < spstarr> does not support this!
17:22 < spstarr> bwahaha
17:23 < scwizard> from my experiance jenkins is a pain to maintain
17:23 < scwizard> keeping jenkins and all its plugins up to date
17:23 < scwizard> because like you want to have it continuously deploy itself which is problematic
17:23 < scwizard> that's why hosted CI makes much more sense to me
17:23 < scwizard> avoids that sorta bootstrapping
17:24 < coderphive> You haven't suffered any big outages with their runner?
17:24 < scwizard> coderphive: their runner is garbage lol, use your own
17:24 < coderphive> ah
17:24 < catbeard> GitLab CI/CD ftw tho
17:24 < scwizard> use their shared runners to deploy your own runners
17:24 < coderphive> What's their runner do then?
17:24 < scwizard> then disable them
17:25 < coderphive> so like just stand up pre-emptible instances in GCP?
17:25 < scwizard> coderphive: it's just, low minutes, not configurable, slow
17:25 < coderphive> What _is_ the runner
17:25 < coderphive> I've never even heard that term before Gitlab
17:25 < scwizard> coderphive: yeah you just install docker on a instance, then you install the gitlab runner package and run gitlab-runner register
17:25 < scwizard> and then it talks to gitlab
17:25 < coderphive> oh okay
17:25 < coderphive> so it's just a worker
17:26 < scwizard> yeah a runner is a worker
17:26 < coderphive> privileged docker-container that connects to github
17:26 < coderphive> err
17:26 < scwizard> it's their name for a worker
17:26 < coderphive> gitlab
17:26 < coderphive> sorry
17:26 < coderphive> Cool
17:26 < coderphive> Their CI is yaml based, yeah?
17:26 < scwizard> yes
17:26 < coderphive> How does secrets storage work?
17:26 < coderphive> Can it hook up to vault?
17:27 < scwizard> you go to the gitlab GUI, and you can put secrets in there
17:27 < coderphive> eh
17:27 < scwizard> in terms of hooking it to a vault idk
17:27 < coderphive> yikes
17:27 < coderphive> We'll give it a try
17:27 < scwizard> coderphive: one of many many many open feature requets https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/40720
17:27 < scwizard> because gitlab isn't modular like jenkins, there's a lot of missing components like that for instnace
17:27 < coderphive> Yeah I think that'd be a requirement for me
17:28 < scwizard> they'll probably introduce t as an enterprise feature in 2022 or something
17:28 < coderphive> like I super-fear (maybe over fear) secrets spillage
17:28 < scwizard> coderphive: well what it does have is protected branches and protected secrets
17:29 < scwizard> protected secrets can only be accessed by protected branches
17:29 < scwizard> which normal users can't push to
17:29 < scwizard> so the essentials of access control are there so like, you could put in "vault password" as a protected secret
17:29 < coderphive> That's nice
17:29 < scwizard> then puts in the commands to grab stuff from a vault
17:30 < scwizard> but yeah gitlab isn't super security concious
17:30 < scwizard> in particular build info is public by default ??????????/
17:30 < scwizard> wtf
17:30 < abakedapplepie> BUT HEY AT LEAST ITS NOT MICROSOFT AM I RITE LMAO
17:30 < scwizard> like the build log
17:30 < scwizard> lol
17:31 < scwizard> this is on by default: https://i.imgur.com/zUGeOfy.png
17:31 < scwizard> like are you fucking kidding me?
17:32 < coderphive> GitHub has always been a funky company
17:32 < coderphive> Kinda surprised it's only now becoming widely criticized
17:33 < abakedapplepie> MICROSOFT IS GOING TO STEAL ALL MY IP GUYS
17:33 < abakedapplepie> FUCK
17:34 < corn266> how else could they have known about cum socks @abakedapplepie
17:34 < abakedapplepie> THERE GOES MY STARTUP
17:35 < corn266> it's like that dating service that sends your stinky shirts to people but instead its your cummy socks
17:36 < corn266> https://smell.dating/
17:39 < ThatOneRoadie> fucking
17:39 <+giant_it_burrit> Wut
17:39 < ThatOneRoadie> guy does a robocopy job that copies all the files from one user profiles and share server to another
17:39 < ThatOneRoadie> robocopy job is set to exclude files over 4GB
17:39 < abakedapplepie> oops
17:40 <+giant_it_burrit> Ok....
17:40 < ThatOneRoadie> any guesses what, in an office environment, is >4GB on nearly everyone's user share and is missing?
17:40 <+giant_it_burrit> Ost
17:40 <+giant_it_burrit> Pst
17:40 < ThatOneRoadie> Winner Winner chicken dinner
17:40 < ThatOneRoadie> (Insert bluehole lawsuit here)
17:40 <+giant_it_burrit> Glory hole?
17:40 < mrghostman> two things that MS doesnt recommend storing on a network share
17:41 < abakedapplepie> ^
17:41 < Jekotia> Anyone know of a way to customise or define entries in the "Predefined set of computers" list? https://i.imgur.com/2ORtSzO.png Window on the left is what you get when you double-click a Windows 10 firewall rule. The one on the right is from clicking "Add" next to "Remote IP addresses"
17:41 < ThatOneRoadie> guy also took off on vacation the day after he ran the copy job
17:41 < JollyRgrs> ThatOneRoadie: you allow large pst files?
17:41 < JollyRgrs> or PST in general
17:41 < abakedapplepie> pst i could understand if its an unused archive
17:41 < JollyRgrs> "unused"
17:41 < ThatOneRoadie> JollyRgrs, it's a hospital company, and corporate controls outlook/exchange
17:41 < Jekotia> All I can find on google is unrelated crap and people saying you cant, and then later saying they found something and not sharing <_<
17:41 < ThatOneRoadie> corporate
17:41 < ThatOneRoadie> in their infinite wisdom
17:41 < JollyRgrs> my dad has had to reference emails going back 10 yrs before
17:41 < ThatOneRoadie> only grants 300MB per user
17:41 < ThatOneRoadie> in exchange
17:41 < JollyRgrs> eww
17:41 < scwizard> Jekotia: i can't think of any reason to spend significant time/effort figuring out how
17:41 < JollyRgrs> 300mb?
17:42 < ThatOneRoadie> yep
17:42 < scwizard> like lets say you could modify some obscure registry entry to do it
17:42 < JollyRgrs> is that legal's asking so they won't get caught in a scam?
17:42 < ThatOneRoadie> because wah wah storage is expensive
17:42 < scwizard> is that really maintainable?
17:42 < ThatOneRoadie> probably
17:42 < coderphive> woof
17:42 < scwizard> its obviously not officially supported
17:42 <+giant_it_burrit> What happened after 300mb
17:42 < Jekotia> scwizard: We have several subnets that constitute our Intranet. Being able to properly define that as something in that list will save me a lot of time configuring firewall rules
17:42 < ThatOneRoadie> Considering it's ex-columbia and they got sued into oblivion based on someone's e-mails from like 20 years ago
17:43 < scwizard> Jekotia: why are you configuring firewall rules through a gui anyway, that's nonsensical
17:43 < scwizard> there's something known as "powershell"
17:43 < Jekotia> scwizard: For GPO
17:43 < coderphive> GUI > *
17:43 < ThatOneRoadie> giant_it_burrit, same thing that happens in every exchange environment when your inbox fills
17:43 < coderphive> Everything should be done by hand
17:43 < coderphive> handcrafted IT
17:43 < ThatOneRoadie> you get no e-mails until you clear it
17:43 < abakedapplepie> coderphive rofl
17:43 < insecurity> my irc client is telnet
17:43 <+giant_it_burrit> You mean call it
17:43 < scwizard> Jekotia: i guarnatee you there's a non interactive way to configure windows firewall rules, as someone who isn't a windows admin I don't know whta it is exactly, but it exists and you should use it rather than clickity clicking
17:44 < insecurity> i thought you could use netsh?
17:44 < abakedapplepie> firewall management through gui really is awful
17:44 < abakedapplepie> netsh is old hat too
17:44 < Jekotia> scwizard: I'm all for that if I can find it. I drastically prefer shells, when they're reasonably useful
17:44 < abakedapplepie> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/netsecurity/new-netfirewallrule?view=win10-ps
17:45 < Jekotia> abakedapplepie: I'm configuring the rules in GPO, so I'm not sure if netsh works for that
17:45 < coderphive> I'm going to take a poop and name it JollyRgrs
17:45 < coderphive> brb
17:45 < abakedapplepie> ooooooooohhhh
17:46 < Jekotia> Our network is a mess. Trying to standardise things and open these systems up to remote administration so I can batch-tweak things instead of going to every damn PC <_<
17:46 < insecurity> why no use gpo
17:46 < Jekotia> insecurity: That's what I'm trying to do
17:47 < Jekotia> But we don't have a Windows server and no one wants to budget for one, so I have to distribute it manually the first time around
17:47 < insecurity> ouch
17:47 < insecurity> how many machinse?
17:47 < insecurity> machines.
17:47 < Jekotia> ~200 I think
17:47 < insecurity> holy fuck
17:47 < insecurity> pretty big "workgroup" lol
17:47 < Jekotia> Not even workgroup...
17:48 < ebol4> god how do you get to 200 machines without something thinking "hmmmmm.... AD would be nice"
17:48 < ebol4> how do you get to 20 machines
17:48 < Jekotia> This company is as if it started in someones garage, and the garage just kept growing
17:48 < Jekotia> IT wise anyways
17:49 < felda> are peanut butter cookies a breakfast item?
17:49 < insecurity> sounds like you should murder whoever's in charge and piss all over the garage and take a bunch of pills, grab a rowboat and row out into the ocean until your arms fall off and when you see the sharks circling take a swig of cyanide.
17:49 < ThatOneRoadie> and yeah, mrghostman, I know MS says don't put PST's on a network drive
17:49 < technonerd> Drop out of college and start a business in a garage
17:49 < scwizard> ansible supports windows now so like
17:49 < ThatOneRoadie> but when they're 17GB and need to be backed up forever, where are you gonna put them
17:49 < scwizard> maybe try using that idk
17:49 < technonerd> The odds you make money are high
17:49 < scwizard> since you don't have money for windows server (????????????)
17:49 < ThatOneRoadie> and 17GB isn't even the largest PST I've ever seen
17:49 < scwizard> how the fuck can you have 200 windows  PCs and not money for a single windows server lisence
17:49 < Jekotia> I'm sure we have the money... Just that no one else thinks its worth it
17:50 < scwizard> you paid for 200 windows pro licenses
17:50 < felda> nah the largest PST I ever seen was ur MUM XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
17:50 < scwizard> i would legit threaten to quit
17:50 < scwizard> "I'm quitting unless I get the budget for this"
17:50 < scwizard> well i wouldn't right away
17:50 < Jekotia> scwizard: Aside from self-teaching, this job is the only IT experience I have. I'd be fucking myself, hard
17:51 < scwizard> but have you told them "hey I can't be expected to do x in y timeframe unless you give me this money for this thing dollars"
17:51 < scwizard> look don't threaten to quit that was hyperbole
17:51 < abakedapplepie> i have a hosted exchange customer org where every user has at least 75gb OST files
17:51 < abakedapplepie> one woman is almost at 150
17:51 < scwizard> but tell them "I can't complete this task in time without this"
17:51 < abakedapplepie> they CC and reply all to the whole company pretty much everything
17:51 < abakedapplepie> and forward attachments
17:51 < abakedapplepie> its ridiculous
17:51 < Jekotia> scwizard: Which would be an incredibly obvious lie
17:51 < abakedapplepie> they complain about performance constantly and get angry when we say its out of scope because youre against ost size guidelines
17:52 < scwizard> Jekotia: how would it be? you're saying as is you can meet all your deadlines?
17:52 < Jekotia> scwizard: A domain would make my job EASIER, but it wouldn't make that dramatic of a difference day-to-day
17:52 < scwizard> it really would in time
17:52 < Jekotia> scwizard: There aren't any deadlines
17:52 < Jekotia> My job is basically go there, fix that
17:52 < Jekotia> Go there, install this
17:53 < scwizard> ok perfect
17:53 < Jekotia> When I have time between things I try and improve stuff
17:53 < scwizard> then what you need to do is "I closed x tickets today, on average i'm closing y a day"
17:53 < scwizard> "with this extra budget I could close z a day"
17:53 < Jekotia> Yea, that's what I'm going for
17:53 < Jekotia> I created a closed ticket category for "THings that wouldn't have had to be done if we had a proper domain"
17:54 < scwizard> great
17:54 < scwizard> and frame things positively like
17:54 < Jekotia> so as those add up I can show my boss why it matters
17:54 < scwizard> "we're growing a lot so"
17:54 < Jekotia> we're not tho xD
17:54 < scwizard> worrying...
17:54  * scwizard has never worked at a company where management didn't think they were growing
17:55 < Jekotia> Oh actually I guess we are, forgot about the sales department
17:55 < Jekotia> (they're upstairs, everyone forgets about them)
17:55 < abakedapplepie> how could you forget about sales
17:55 < abakedapplepie> they wont let you
17:55 < Jekotia> Because they're the least technologically incompetent department here
17:55 < scwizard> i gotta do work geez
17:55 < Jekotia> I rarely have to deal with their shit
17:56 < abakedapplepie> consider yourself lucky
17:56 < abakedapplepie> most salespeople are entitled bitches that complain constantly about everything
17:56 < Jekotia> It's also a misleading department name
17:56 < Jekotia> They're 99% marketing material production
17:56 < abakedapplepie> oh
17:56 < abakedapplepie> so interns
17:56 < abakedapplepie> :P
17:56 < Jekotia> I think there's one person who actually makes traditional sales calls
17:57 < Jekotia> everyone else is photoshop newsletters
17:58 < corn266> my coworker tried to initiate a boxing match but jokes on him I can punch his dick
17:58 < felda> aww yis I get tomorrow off for my birthday
17:58 <+giant_it_burrit> happy bday felda
17:58 < felda> it was officially yesterday :D
17:59 < corn266> gz felda did you go to the club last night?
17:59 < felda> I'm a big 26 year old boy
17:59 < felda> nah
17:59 < McDonaldsWiFi> BIG BOI
17:59 < felda> I'm a unit my dudes
17:59 < felda> not really I'm only 210lbs
17:59 < McDonaldsWiFi> absolute unit
17:59 < hxcsp> g unit
17:59 < felda> lmao I love those memes
17:59 < McDonaldsWiFi> so unit is the PC way of saying fat fuck now right?
17:59 < hxcsp> pfsense unit
17:59 < McDonaldsWiFi> ;P
17:59 < felda> hopefully gonna have a beer with my dad here soon
18:00 < McDonaldsWiFi> felda: maybe it needs to be a light beer
18:00 < felda> he works for the railroad so he has to be sober 24/7
18:00 < hxcsp> felda: can only handle the non alcoholic beer
18:00 < Nightcinder> https://twitter.com/PlayOverwatch/status/1012334868544479232/video/1 blizzardwatrudoin
18:00 < corn266> I'M A BOUT TO DRINK A HEINEKIN
18:00 < felda> hxcsp I actually prefer mixed drinks
18:00 < hxcsp> like a virgin pina colada?
18:00 < hxcsp> ;p
18:00 < felda> extra strength virgin pina colada
18:01 < felda> speaking of
18:01 < felda> my coworkers keep trying to set me up with ladies
18:01 < corn266> too bad you're in to dudes
18:01 < felda> lmao
18:01 < Hatter> corn266: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snhiofL2Rh4
18:01 < felda> nah
18:01 < hxcsp> felda: if you want to have a good time on a date, introduce them to felda.io
18:01 <@killdash9> quote from today's meeting: I'm no longer a Systems Administrator, I'm a Systems Archaeologist.
18:02 < hxcsp> is that a fancy way of saying all your shits outdated killdash9
18:02 < felda> well I live in a small conservative town
18:02 < felda> I'm an atheist
18:02 < felda> just about nobody jives with me
18:02 < felda> "Hey felda you want to come to church with me" hahaha.... oh man my schedules pretty full
18:02 <@killdash9> I love spends a full day trying to find the convoluted way to acess ancient servers in small DCs on the other side of the planet. Only had to sacrifice three goats to get in
18:02 < aName> I really hate "helpless" users
18:02 < corn266> Hatter, https://youtu.be/t6htwQByuXY?t=26
18:02 <@killdash9> hxcsp: but, yes, it is
18:03 < JollyRgrs> killdash9: you totally need to dress up as professor indiana jones
18:03 < Hatter> corn266: That's how you respond with my perfectly timed youtube link? With this garbage?
18:03 < Hatter> I wonder why I even bother sometimes
18:03 <@killdash9> coworker started up the Indiana Jones theme music
18:03 < hxcsp> lol
18:04 < corn266> >this garbage
18:04 <@killdash9> while boxes with 4,000 day uptimes are impressive, it's not really the right way to handle things
18:04 < Jekotia> Fuck it. I'll just tweak my local firewall rules and then copy them to the GPO ones
18:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> i will bet 1000 bucs that a reboot would most definitely kill a device that has been running for 4000 days
18:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> bucks*
18:04 <@killdash9> Last login: 2009
18:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> especially if it has a HDD
18:04 < hxcsp> killdash9: those must be running the c&c servers right
18:05 < estranger> McDonaldsWiFi, powering off/on the power source after a long run like that can be fun too
18:06 < corn266> Hatter, don't form opinions on shit you don't understand. Calling a genre of music garbage is like saying the 70s were shit because reasons
18:06 < Hatter> hey cool it pal
18:06 < Hatter> It IS garbage, and I understand that better than you!
18:06 <@killdash9> hey, the 70s were awesome.
18:06 < aName> And then they go over my head to my boss because they think I'm not being helpful enough by doing everything for them
18:07 <@killdash9> I was there, I know
18:07 < Casteil> huh, google/android's "Messages for web" implementation is pretty interesting
18:07 < aName> I should go back to washing dishes.
18:07 < corn266> nah I'm sick of your shit sittin here like "i had to scuff my sleeves so your time doesn't matter" how bout you fuckin cool your ego you little shit
18:07 < Casteil> I'd rather it be tied to my Google account, but the way they did it, you visit android.messages.com and it gives you a QR code to scan from the Messages app on your android phone
18:07 < Hatter> what's that about my sleeves
18:07 < Casteil> which is kinda neat in itself
18:07 < Hatter> you're not making any sense man
18:08 < estranger> Casteil, what's it do?
18:08 < Hatter> corn266: I don't entirely blame you, you were conditioned by your environment and the times to like that garbage
18:08 < Casteil> lets you txt/sms from a computer
18:08 < Hatter> corn266: you may grow into some perspective eventually
18:08 < Hatter> and hopefully some taste along withb it
18:08 < Hatter> alright?
18:08 < corn266> Hatter, you literally do not understand
18:08 < estranger> that website looks like it wants to steal my personal information
18:08 < corn266> My perspective grew to encompass an appreciation for music like that
18:08 < Hatter> then you're going in the wrong direction
18:09 < corn266> not your "holier than thou" bull shit of "ethnic music" cause your music has pipe organs and pan flutes
18:09 < Casteil> estranger: lol, it's legit, but you don't have to use it
18:09 < khelpw> Pan flutes are pretty ethnic
18:09 < Hatter> good point thank you
18:09 < estranger> its showing me ads
18:09 < Casteil> khelpw's mom is pretty ethnic
18:09 < estranger> you sure that is the right hostname?? heh
18:09 < khelpw> My great-great grandmother is.
18:09 < JFDkthx>  abakedapplepie is this you https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/8uf6rf/rant_how_not_to_quit_the_msp_it_department_you/
18:10 < Casteil> messages.android.com
18:10 < Casteil> my bad lol
18:10 < estranger> im installing Messages now though cus i want to see it work... i used to use mightytext but it was buggy
18:10 < estranger> Casteil, hahah
18:10 <@killdash9> wait, is this a "my music tastes are best and you're a fucking heathen' arguement?
18:10 < khelpw> https://i.imgur.com/xEutKjv.jpg seriously, look at her Casteil
18:10 < khelpw> Absolute fucking unit
18:10 < Casteil> r/absoluteunits
18:10 < Casteil> one of my favorite newer subreddits :P
18:11 < khelpw> srsly tho, I'm pretty sure that^ means I can say the N word openly.
18:11 < JFDkthx> killdash9: you should talk to hatter about his horrible taste in music
18:11 <@killdash9> the pan fultes protect us from the guinea pigs. They are awesome
18:11 < Casteil> not necessarily newer, just got popular recently though I think
18:11 < JFDkthx> s/pan/skin
18:11 < corn266> I think y'all missed my point about pan flutes
18:11 < JFDkthx> /g
18:11 < estranger> Casteil, ok when using the RIGHT website... that is pretty cool
18:11 < corn266> not that they're bad, but saying they're superior than current music because they're pan flutes
18:11 < estranger> Casteil, I was impressed with the speed it recognized I scanned the QR code.
18:11 <@killdash9> all music sucks. Some just sucks less to you right now.
18:12 < JFDkthx> lets be real here though
18:12 < khelpw> I'm pretty sure "white" is one of the check boxes under "ethnicity". All music is ethnic music.
18:12 < JFDkthx> queen will always suck
18:12 < Casteil> https://www.reddit.com/r/AbsoluteUnits/comments/8t1jl0/officer_a_unit_keeping_the_riot_in_awe/
18:12 <@killdash9> my playlists make everyone cringe at one point.
18:12 < corn266> khelpw, reported for racism
18:12 < Jekotia> killdash9: Music doesn't suck, only the majority of consumer audio devices
18:12 < khelpw> k
18:12 < Casteil> estranger: Me too. the camera app barely initialized when the haptic feedback indicated it worked
18:13 < estranger> Casteil, lol yeah I had my phone pointed to my laptop when i hit accept to allow the camera to be accessed and "instantly" updated the website showing I authed
18:13 < estranger> jsut wish google lens would work on my damn phone
18:13 < khelpw> I would say better audio devices only makes it more obvious how terrible a lot of music is
18:13 < estranger> i wanna play with that
18:13 < Casteil> I think my moto x4 just got it
18:13 <@killdash9> my wife puts up with my playlists jumping from Ludacris to Bach to Jewel to Eminem to Van Morrison and everything in between. It's a grab bag of things everyone hates
18:13 < khelpw> there are whole subgenres that I just won't even go near with nice cans etc.
18:13 < Casteil> don't really care though lol
18:14 < estranger> I got a LG v20 and the app installed byt it says i have to wait to use it after upgrading
18:14 < khelpw> killdash9: you should make genre/mood playlists to keep things a bit more homogenous
18:14 < estranger> and it doesnt show up under my google assistant
18:14 <@killdash9> I have those too
18:14 < khelpw> Don't get me wrong, my taste is all over the place, but if I just go to all my music and hit 'shuffle all' it'd drive anyone insane
18:14 <@killdash9> exactly
18:14 < khelpw> I'm definitely guilty of musical ADD though
18:14 < khelpw> I'll jump from death metal to ska to jazz to blues to rap etc
18:15 < estranger> i had years where I couldnt listen to music because I heard it all and would just hit skip after 10 seconds, and i didnt like any new stuff that I could find
18:15 < coderphive>  hmm
18:15 < khelpw> But tend to do that more when I'm just listening to music by myself.
18:15 < coderphive> to emoji or not to emoji
18:15 < coderphive> idk
18:15 < combatdud3> Well my day just got exponentially worse. I'm reading source code for an Apache project
18:15 < estranger> now w/ music streaming that isnt as much of a problem
18:15 < estranger> combatdud3, which one? :)
18:15 < ekaj_> sometimes i'll spend a couple hours on youtube looking at the recommended songs, eventually i'll find some good ones
18:15 < combatdud3> kafka
18:15 < khelpw> I feel bad for people who think that there's no good music anymore.
18:15 < ekaj_> then those will be the songs i listen to for the next few months
18:15 <@killdash9> estranger: get a hold of the SXSW bittorrents. An amazing way to find new artists
18:15 < estranger> combatdud3, i know a lot of the kafka folks if you're stuck
18:15 <@killdash9> http://www.sxswtorrent.com/
18:16 < combatdud3> Ta. Getting an Bootstrap broker disconnected error from a customer.
18:16 <@killdash9> every year a new torrent with 3,000 or so tracks. Liek one from every single band that plays that year
18:16 < combatdud3> Trying to chase it down while they're afk
18:16 < Casteil> estranger: Lens and such weird me out a bit. How much of what's being captured go back to google and are associated with my account?
18:16 <@killdash9> everything
18:16 <@killdash9> even this conversation
18:17 < Casteil> i.e. google might be able to see what half my work desk looks like
18:17 <@killdash9> Hi, Google!
18:17 < khelpw> It's kind of depressing how kids these days have a sort of negative expectation of privacy
18:17 < estranger> Casteil, im not sure, i made the decision to go ALL IN w/ google and give them everything... might regret it one day but being a technologist im really really curious what is the art of the possible
18:17 < khelpw> they really seem to think that nothing they do or think is private, and that this is fine. It's pretty worrisome
18:17 < ekaj_> Google: "site:freenode.net killdash9 "Hi, Google" ", 1 result found
18:17 < Casteil> khelpw: it's definitely heading that way
18:17 < khelpw> For a generation of kids who have literally been on facebook since the moment their mother first held them though, it's not really surprising
18:17 <@killdash9> ekaj_: hahah. I wouldn't doubt it.
18:18 < coderphive> khelpw, I blame people who made privacy a buzzword
18:18 < Casteil> and I feel like once neuralnet AIs are well hashed out some bad shit's going to happen..
18:18 < khelpw> I feel like if people wouldn't be upset by the nudity, that people would constantly be posting videos of the actual birth of their childrin
18:18 < khelpw> Casteil: it's only bad if you are a subversive
18:18 < ekaj_> childrin
18:18 < aName> What's craziest to me is my dad's generation being like, 'I don't have anything to hide, what do I need privacy or security for?'
18:18 < estranger> combatdud3, fun. something is killing the connection [I know.. thank you captain obvious]
18:18 < khelpw> authorities have been notified. Please stay in your chair
18:19 < Casteil> I already deleted my facebook profile, google still probably knows more about me than my closest friends or family
18:19 < estranger> vnet/sg changes? ssl certs? local file limits?
18:19 < coderphive> aName, yeah well, actual information hand-over happened when phonebooks happened
18:19 < Casteil> more than I ever want anyone to know
18:19 < coderphive> Is it that strange?
18:19 < estranger> I dont have facebook, but i give google everything... is THAT strange?
18:19 < coderphive> ^
18:19 < Casteil> <aName> What's craziest to me is my dad's generation being like, 'I don't have anything to hide, what do I need privacy or security for?'
18:19 <@killdash9> Google gives me things back. Facebook not near as much
18:19 < Casteil> Hey dad, I know what kind of porn you like
18:20 < combatdud3> estranger: No idea.
18:20 < Casteil> you should stop before you get arrested
18:20 < coderphive> The way I see it is data is a currency. When I gave data to facebook I got very little in return. With Google I get viable services in return.
18:20 < ekaj_> giggity
18:20 < Casteil> >.>
18:20 < estranger> how else could I build my travel heatmaps w/o giving google it all??  https://i.imgur.com/E8ekxNq.png
18:20 < vinrock> i never had facebook or linkedin, wiped clean my reddit history and switched to duckduckgo
18:20 < khelpw> What about people who genuinely don't give a shit if you know what sort of porn they look at though?
18:20 < combatdud3> estranger: waiting for htem to get back so I can walk them through upping teh logging verbosity
18:20 <@killdash9> estranger: oh! how I make that?
18:20 < ekaj_> estranger: what link did you use to get that map
18:20 < khelpw> like "Yep, I like the porn with naked girls in it. What of it?"
18:20 < aName> Casteil: Funny thing is, my stepdad is a software engineer who has a totally opposite view.
18:20 < Casteil> estranger: looks like you get a lot of the D
18:20 < SynMonger> hey dad, you know that dong/cock ring combo you bought on amazon? errbody knows
18:20 < estranger> combatdud3, cool cool :)
18:20 < aName> khelpw: Yeah, someone once tried to blackmail me with some nudes I sent them
18:20 < estranger> Casteil, I get around :I
18:21 < aName> khelpw: I told them to go ahead, that my family already knows I'm a young male trying to get laid.
18:21 < coderphive> orly
18:21 < Casteil> aName: I think intelligence and critical thought directly correlate to privacy concerns and being untrusting of online services in general.
18:21 < aName> Casteil: Yes.
18:21 < Casteil> not implying your dad is dumb
18:21 < estranger> ekaj_ killdash9 https://locationhistoryvisualizer.com/heatmap/
18:21 < Casteil> >.>
18:21 < aName> Casteil: That being said, my dad is a pretty bright guy
18:21 < aName> Casteil: Just... uneducated
18:21 < coderphive> So only smart people are concerned about privacy?
18:21 < Casteil> but a lot of people don't stop to think about the full implications of things
18:21 < coderphive> That's a dangerous assumption imo
18:22 < SynMonger> I know all the privacy and security implications and still use google/facebook/matrix
18:22 < aName> coderphive: That's not what he said
18:22 < aName> coderphive: He said that smarter people are more likely to have these concerns
18:22 < Casteil> how is that dangerous?
18:22 < estranger> I just want access to see the inner workings of Google Duplex
18:22 < Casteil> how often do you see smart people making posts they shouldn't  :P
18:22 < estranger> that shit is insaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaane
18:22 <@killdash9> downloading location data now. This should be fun
18:23 < coderphive> aName, yeah, I disagree with that concern
18:23 < coderphive> err
18:23 < estranger> killdash9, it is :) on the website you can zoom in/around the globe
18:23 < coderphive> assumption
18:23 <@killdash9> yeah, mine should have stuff on several continents
18:23 < coderphive> aName, There's a lot of rednecks that are by all means very simple people and don't want their info collected
18:23 < aName> estranger: Their new personal assistant AI?
18:23 < aName> coderphive: Sure.
18:23 < aName> coderphive: Again, what he said didn't exclude that
18:23 < estranger> killdash9, cool :) I unfortunately haven't left stateside in a number of years
18:24 < coderphive> In fact, they're probably more adept to being concerned about privacy since they live in the middle of nowhere
18:24 < Casteil> gah, I feel kinda crappy
18:24 < coderphive> if anything
18:24 < estranger> aName, yeah, their voice conversational ML pipeline
18:24 < estranger> they have a nice high level overview of their data flows on their blog
18:24 < aName> estranger: Yeah, some of the demos I've seen have been pretty impressive, but who knows how cherry picked those calls were
18:25 < coderphive> Casteil, aName, not that I disagree with the intent of your assertions but I fell victim to assuming people who are lower on the chain of IQ don't care about things too
18:25 < estranger> aName, even if its cherry picked.. knowing what all that entails to get even close to what they demoed is fucking donkey kong level nuts
18:25 < coderphive> bi-product of toxic intellectualism
18:25 < aName> estranger: Oh yeah for sure
18:26 < nthdevops> @aName, Are you talking about duplex?
18:26 < aName> coderphive: I'll take toxic intellectualism over the alternative I've lived most of my live - toxic anti-intellectualism. =p
18:26 < aName> nthdevops: Yeah
18:26 < nthdevops> There's more of the latter going on around nowadays ;(
18:26 < estranger> when you get into a single phrase that can have multiple meanings and you haev to determine this by context.. and decide if you need a quick response or not... its nutty
18:26 < coderphive> Don't you live in TX?
18:26 < nthdevops> SJW movement yello
18:26 < JFDkthx> just heard a HD tech loudly saying NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN
18:26 < nthdevops> I was VERY impressed with that second call
18:26 < Hatter> JFDkthx: he was quote inglorious basterds
18:27 < estranger> multiple speed data pathways depending on the situation
18:27 < JFDkthx> and then softer, one one one
18:27 < Hatter> quoting
18:27 < nthdevops> I can't wait till they poll stores for the holiday hours
18:27 < coderphive> My company builds devices for smart cities; some of the loudest and most reasonable concerns were from small towns
18:27 < aName> nthdevops: I've lost friends for having the opinion that everyone should be equal. Fuck the SJW movement.
18:27 < coderphive> big towns are like HELL YEAH BOIII
18:27 < Casteil> coderphive: there's nothing wrong with making certain presumptions as long as you don't try to make them foregone conclusions..
18:27 < estranger> nthdevops, where the dude could hardly speak english? yeah, very cool indeed.
18:27 < Hatter> aName: they died?
18:27 < coderphive> Casteil, true. It's just a dangerous line.
18:27 < coderphive> Casteil, A line I'm careful to walk now that I'm #woke
18:27 < JFDkthx> oh, he had just reset the users password
18:27 < JFDkthx> and was shouting it
18:27 < JFDkthx> what the fuck
18:28 < JFDkthx> he's three rows over
18:28 < nthdevops> `<coderphive> So only smart people are concerned about privacy?` Not exclusively, but generally only smarter people look into it and do a cost benefit analysis
18:28 < coderphive> nthdevops, In my experience, not really true
18:28 < coderphive> Example above ^
18:28 < nthdevops> You may be misunderstanding
18:28 < nthdevops> I'm not saying smarter people care
18:28 < nthdevops> I'm saying that OF the people that care
18:28 < nthdevops> A bigger % is smart compared to a sample of genpop
18:29 < coderphive> Maybe, idk
18:29 < Casteil> coderphive: Yeah. A few too many people will jump on calling something racism or sexism because you acknowledge that there are certain traits
18:29 < JFDkthx> tell that to all the people that build doomsday bunkers
18:29 < coderphive> I don't claim to know the answer, just saying I've seen both
18:29 < Casteil> men are typically taller/heavier than women
18:29 < Casteil> black people are typically bigger than asian people
18:29 < nthdevops> Some people think that stating that the genders are dysmorphic is sexist
18:29 < aName> Hatter: No, but they may as well have.
18:29 < Casteil> that's not racist, but someone's thinking it is
18:29 <+giant_it_burrit> im white, everything i say is racist
18:29 <+giant_it_burrit> ive stopped caring
18:30 < coderphive> giant_it_burrit, honestly you're white and you have burrito in your name?
18:30 <+giant_it_burrit> its part of the reason you saw trump voters. people got fed up with pc culture and said fuck it
18:30 < coderphive> giant_it_burrit, racist.
18:30 <+giant_it_burrit> cultural appropriation
18:30 < coderphive> giant_it_burrit, also /s
18:30 < Casteil> giant_it_burrit: Yep.
18:30 <+giant_it_burrit> eat a dick
18:30 < Casteil> the "PC" folks pushed a little too hard and Trump POTUS is the result
18:30 <+giant_it_burrit> and they keep pushing for extremes
18:31 <+giant_it_burrit> and that gives the more moderates towards it
18:31 < nthdevops> It's not like he's gonna get reelected
18:31 < coderphive> we're probably bordering a bit too close on r/pol
18:31 < Casteil> nthdevops: don't count your chickens before they hatch.
18:31 < SynMonger> I'm hoping the pendulum doesn't swing back to the other extreme again
18:31 <+giant_it_burrit> https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/26/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-joe-crowley-new-york-14-primary/index.html
18:31 <+giant_it_burrit> this just helps
18:31 < aName> giant_it_burrit: Yeah - I didn't vote for him, but I sure did get sick of being attacked for existing
18:31 < Casteil> reddit is not representative of the US as a whole
18:31 < aName> I live in NYS so I don't get a vote anyway lol
18:31 <+giant_it_burrit> aName: i voted for him
18:32 < nthdevops> There are going to be diff candidates up this time
18:32 < estranger> lol "he'll never get to the debates..." "he'll never get nominated at least!" ............. "well there is no way he'll actually win!" ...................
18:32 <+giant_it_burrit> i live in nyc
18:32 < Casteil> I'm "on the fence" so to speak; but I certainly won't be voting for trump
18:32 <+giant_it_burrit> aName: i did it out of spite tbh
18:32 < aName> giant_it_burrit: So you don't get a vote either =p
18:32  * McDonaldsWiFi comes back... seems pol... leaves
18:32 <+giant_it_burrit> i didnt care then i still dont care
18:32 <+giant_it_burrit> and its sad
18:32 < SynMonger> say guys, I can still use windows xp on my network, right?
18:33 <+giant_it_burrit> yes
18:33 < coderphive> yeah dude
18:33 < Casteil> he's raised the bar on toxicity in politics and effectively encouraged/emboldened others to be toxic as well
18:33 < Casteil> aanyway
18:33 < Casteil> yes, bit too far into politics territory :P
18:33 < coderphive> That's okay
18:33  * Casteil gets banned
18:33 < coderphive> We ventured in and /part'd safely
18:33 <+giant_it_burrit> Casteil: i like how he space jammed north korea
18:33 <+giant_it_burrit> sent rodman
18:33 < AIX-woes> hello friends
18:33 < estranger> holy shit AIX
18:33 < coderphive> Nah, only one of us will be picked as a sacrificial lamb
18:34 < aName> Well...
18:34 < estranger> just run smitty and select "fix my problem"
18:34 < aName> As long as it's topical
18:34 < coderphive> most likely estranger
18:34 < aName> TOL18806
18:34 < aName> Support it
18:34 < estranger> i miss using aix... JFS in the 90s was the bomb
18:34 <+giant_it_burrit> Casteil: https://www.etsy.com/listing/608036410/art-of-the-deal-2-epic-size-24x36-poster?ref=shop_home_feat_2
18:34 < AIX-woes> anyone know how to configure a serial port to connect to an IBM AIX machine?
18:34 < coderphive> estranger> i miss using ai
18:34 < coderphive> wat
18:34 < AIX-woes> from a macbook
18:34 < aName> https://www.scribd.com/document/382710811/Marijuana-Freedom-and-Opportunity-Act#from_embed
18:34 < coderphive> Nobody has ever said that
18:34 < estranger> coderphive, I just did
18:34 < aName> Call your reps
18:34 < aName> Tell them to support this
18:34 < estranger> AIX JFS in the 90s was one awesome filesystem
18:35 < aName> estranger: You just reminded me of Reiser
18:35 < estranger> smitty actually worked too, back when linuxconf was just an idea
18:35 < coderphive> aName, can I call you and tell you to support it?
18:35 < Casteil> giant_it_burrit: I don't see a any indication of putin behind the scenes :P
18:35 < estranger> aName, i fear for your wife
18:35 < aName> LIke 'Oh so his girlfriend ran off to russia'
18:35 < aName> estranger: Well at first the prosecution couldn't provide a body or weapon
18:35 <+giant_it_burrit> Casteil: see the horses name on the blanket
18:35 < aName> estranger: So it looked like she ran off with some guy
18:35 < aName> estranger: And then...
18:35 < coderphive> I wouldn't mind being an SRE in Russia
18:36 < coderphive> DDOS mitigation constantly
18:36 < estranger> heh @ the wikipedia edit on filesystems and someone added the "kills your wife" column to the features comparison matrix
18:36 < coderphive> lmao
18:36 < coderphive> where is that?
18:37 < estranger> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ronocdh/2651155110
18:37 < estranger> it didnt last long but you can find screen caps of it
18:37 < estranger> "murders your wife" i guess is the column
18:38 < corn266> what in the fuck is a bus error
18:38 < estranger> not normally a good one
18:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> heat wave advisory tomorrow and saturday.. I waited to mow my long ass yard til tomorrow
18:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> i hate the summer lol
18:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> gib me fall back pls
18:40 < corn266> you call your long ass a yard?
18:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> huehuehue
18:41 < corn266> probably more like a meter
18:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> s/long ass yard/yard
18:42 < JFDkthx> estranger: i almost took an aix job
18:42 < JFDkthx> kinda wish i had
18:44 < estranger> JFDkthx, in this decade?
18:44 <@cryptic1> so do you really?
18:44 <@cryptic1> JFDkthx, hatter would disagree
18:44 < JFDkthx> estranger: year and half ago
18:45 < Hatter> hmm?
18:45 < JFDkthx> cryptic1: prove it
18:45 < rpifan> hi
18:45 < estranger> yeaaah i dunno if I would have wanted an aix job that recently
18:45 < JFDkthx> wow
18:45 < JFDkthx> hatter
18:45 < JFDkthx> u piece of shit
18:45 < Hatter> well just behave yourself
18:45 < Hatter> is that so hard?
18:46 < JFDkthx> estranger: the reason why i didnt take it is because i dont know anything about it. and it was a position to fill the whole left behind the one guy that did
18:46 < JFDkthx> they offered good money
18:46 < deww> "here's the aix manual"
18:47 < deww> s/manual/source
18:47 < scwizard> for fucks sake gitlab
18:47 < JFDkthx> it was in industry/manufacturing and i didnt want that type of pressure.
18:47 < scwizard> can you go a week without being hard down
18:47 < scwizard> even their status page is down
18:47 < scwizard> https://status.gitlab.com/
18:47 < Hatter> scwizard: JFDkthx is used to going down all the time
18:48 < Hatter> know what I mean
18:48 < Hatter> fellatio
18:48 < JFDkthx> are you sexually harassing me?
18:48 < Hatter> hah!
18:49 < rpifan> so how do i fix this guys laptop with the busted bios
18:49 <@cryptic1> scwizard, but gitlab is better microsoft doesn't own it!!!! /s
18:49 < deww> rpifan: open it up, replace the chip.
18:49 < scwizard> cryptic1: we were on gitlab before the github thing tbh
18:49 <@cryptic1> LOL good sigyn
18:50 < scwizard> that's why I was hired to migrate us to gitlab
18:50 <@cryptic1> scwizard, i was only kidding
18:50 < rpifan> isnt there a uart deal
18:50 < deww> rpifan: make sure to use the correct flash rom chip
18:50 < deww> :o
18:50 <@cryptic1> so its your fault then :(
18:51 < rpifan> so i guess id have to pull it apart then and i dont have tools
18:51 < rpifan> so ill
18:51 < rpifan> have tocome up with a good excuse
18:51 < scwizard> but yeah one advantage of github over gitlab
18:51 < scwizard> github didn't go down every single week
18:53 < scwizard> here's the real gitlab status page: https://twitter.com/search?q=%40gitlabstatus
18:54 < ebol4> how do you capture the stdout of Copy-Item into a variable in powershell?
18:54 < ebol4> $a = (cp thing thing2) | Out-String
18:54 < ebol4> doesn't work
18:55 < ebol4> also i'm actually using cp -Verbose
18:55 < rpifan> do you just copy that gist somewhere thats what i dont understand, there must be more files needed etc
18:56 < coderphive> to continue our convo from earlier: I often wonder what future generations will say about people who developed automation and opened up data
18:57 < rpifan> nothing
18:57 < rpifan> ther ewill be something worse
18:57 < rpifan> computers are automatio machines
18:57 < rpifan> thyell look back at the good ol days
18:58 < rpifan> of gloryholes and cubicles
18:58 < JollyRgrs> wow
18:58 < JollyRgrs> guys!
18:58 < JollyRgrs> so for the first time, i used the "G" in GBoard in a hangouts group
18:58 < corn266> where do you work where there are gloryholes
18:58 < JollyRgrs> and i searched for something, then shared the results
18:58 < JollyRgrs> it was like... meant to be
18:59 < JollyRgrs> corn266: i think he meant he operated one
18:59 < corn266> oh never mind
18:59 < rootsudo> submited my resignation to my recruiter
18:59 < rootsudo> slept all morning
18:59 < rootsudo> 😂
18:59 < corn266> gz rootsudo
18:59 < corn266> I'm envious
18:59 < rpifan> rootsudo, i dont always resign but when i do i sleep all day
18:59 < dragonfleas> anyone here do BJJ?
18:59 < rpifan> except this last week i have to kep waking up to do german interviews
19:00 < rootsudo> dragonfleas how much do you charge
19:00 < dragonfleas> rootsudo, i'm not a teacher, i'm only a white belt lmao
19:01 < corn266> $25 but an extra $10 to swallow
19:01 < rootsudo> lol
19:01 < rpifan> 25 is way to cheap
19:02 < rootsudo> depends where in the world
19:02 < rpifan> true that
19:02 < rpifan> i soon hope to go to thailand
19:04 < Hatter> BootImage XXX0000C needs to be updated (new packageID=MLC0000C) VersionUpdate=true	SMSPXE	6/28/2018 12:52:33 PM	4016 (0x0FB0)
19:04 < Hatter>  <--- is this why my SCCM task sequence is rebooting right after "preparing network connections"
19:05 < JollyRgrs> yes
19:05 < m4221> Herro
19:05 < JollyRgrs> Hatter: so your boot winpe doesn't match the winpe of the task sequence
19:06 < rpifan> i wonder how safe iran is atm
19:06 < Hatter> but this was working like a month ago and I haven't touched anything
19:06 < JollyRgrs> touched nothing?
19:06 < JollyRgrs> usure?
19:06 < Hatter> well..
19:06 < Hatter> kinda
19:06 < JollyRgrs> little boys, i don't wanna know
19:06 < JollyRgrs> just in re:SCCM
19:06 < Hatter> I'm pretty sure not on both accounts
19:07 < JollyRgrs> lol
19:07 < JollyRgrs> there was also something... i forget... it had to do with updating files
19:08 < JollyRgrs> oh... for task sequences, i think the last boot image updated is what loads by default? I prob. got that a little wrong, but there's blogs about it
19:08 < JollyRgrs> like if you update your x86 WinPE image, when you PXE boot or whatever, it'll load that
19:08 < JollyRgrs> but then you'll have to load the x64 PE for your task sequence selected, and when the PE doesn't match current PE, it has to reboot and load the new/old one
19:09 < Hatter> hrmf
19:11 < Hatter> should I update to 1802
19:16 < khelpw> Yes. Let me know what breaks.
19:18 <@cryptic1> loading blockchain
19:18 <@cryptic1> thank you JollyRgrs for blockchain addon
19:26 < corn266> do we have cryptic1 coin yet?
19:26 < nthdevops> Does anyone have a sample ARF file from Cisco WebEx
19:26 < nthdevops> They don't mind tossing me the mediainfo for?
19:26 <@cryptic1> corn266, soon
19:26 < corn266> I'll buy 100
19:27 < nthdevops> @Hatter, 1803?
19:29 <+voice> Throwback Thursday, put Windows NT4 on it
19:30 < Heresiarch> voice: damn dude...I'm no fan of Hatter's, but that's just cruel.
19:30 < rpifan> i have developed a new coin
19:30 < Hatter> Heresiarch: what have I ever done to you?
19:31 < Heresiarch> Hatter: nothing. Thus why I wouldn't advocate inflicting NT4 on you.
19:32 < JollyRgrs> coderphive: you think that makes me upset? the fact that you can't get me off your mind says you are enamored with me
19:32 <@cryptic1> you have to listen to voice
19:32 < coderphive> I am bae
19:32 < JFDkthx> ...
19:32 <@cryptic1> its in the channel rules guys
19:33 < rpifan> Your application for unemployment benefits has been received and is being processed.
19:33 < coderphive> +v is like being the line leader
19:33 < ekaj_> `bofh
19:34 < ekaj_> +v does the first line?
19:34 < coderphive> like obv those kids aren't cool and will turn out to be cocaine addicts
19:34 < JollyRgrs> so reading something from hey, scripting guy...
19:34 < JollyRgrs> https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/heyscriptingguy/2014/09/07/weekend-scripter-dont-break-powershell-script-with-line-breaks/
19:34 < dragonfleas> SMB MSP's are fucking cancer in the IT community, can I get an amen?
19:34 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: go post that in the subreddit. They'll love it.
19:34 < JollyRgrs> but it REALLY bothered me because he calls the ` character the linebreak character.... but it's an escape character
19:35 < JollyRgrs> in this case, it is just escaping the LF
19:36 <@cryptic1> not +v but voice
19:36 <@cryptic1> pay attention
19:36 < scwizard> dragonfleas: what's "SMB?" small/medium buissness?
19:36 < coderphive> That's like 90% of the sub
19:36 <@cryptic1> ^
19:36 < Heresiarch> coderphive: ...spoilsport.
19:36 < coderphive> people who call themselves "IT"
19:36 < coderphive> etc
19:36 < JFDkthx> i still dont know why i was klined.
19:36 <@cryptic1> dragonfleas, is 12 and works for a SMB MSP
19:37 < JFDkthx> fucking sigyn
19:37 < coderphive> like, the people in this chan are a rarity on that sub
19:37 <@cryptic1> JFDkthx, you got caught
19:37 < coderphive> just fyi
19:37 < JFDkthx> cryptic1: psh
19:37 < JFDkthx> like they could ever
19:37 < coderphive> go talk ANY progressive tech on the sub
19:37 < Heresiarch> coderphive: they're all on the discord server. IRC is for filthy text users.
19:37 < coderphive> You'll hear a bunch of garbage and you'll get downvoted
19:37 < coderphive> I don't do discord bc I'm not 13
19:38 < coderphive> and I like being under cryptic1 and JollyRgrs rule
19:38 < JFDkthx> i only use discord for games. not for social circles.
19:38 < Jekotia> s/rule/bodies
19:38 < JFDkthx> thats just wierd
19:38 < coderphive> Jekotia, no bot 4 u
19:38 < JollyRgrs> coderphive: JollyRgrs as in me, or as in your turd you named JollyRgrs?
19:38 < rpifan> im a proggie
19:38 < alazare619> wondered why i've been so productive today
19:38 < Jekotia> :(
19:38 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, both
19:39 < coderphive> Maybe a JollyRgrs sandwhich
19:39 < alazare619> apparently Code_Man65 kicking me = 9000% productivity increase of alazare619
19:39 <@Code_Man65> alazare619:  Glad to be of help
19:39 < JollyRgrs> coderphive: so you could say that, no matter what happens to you, you will remain "underturd"
19:39 < scwizard> oh man
19:39 < coderphive> lmao
19:39 < scwizard> kinda tempted to join the discord now
19:39 < scwizard> and see what a shitshow it is
19:39 < coderphive> Question
19:39 < JFDkthx> its memes
19:39 < coderphive> Are you guys even mods of r/sysadmin?
19:39 < JFDkthx> fake mods
19:40 < coderphive> so, if we do troll the discord then there's no harm
19:40 < alazare619> JollyRgrs:  i got my stuff that needs done for the next two weeks done already
19:40 < coderphive> go*
19:40 < alazare619> i can screw off now
19:40 < alazare619> plz no kick
19:40 < JFDkthx> coderphive: if you shit in shitty water does it really matter?
19:40 < coderphive> o tru
19:40 < JFDkthx> tru
19:41 < corn266> speaking of shit add me on steam, nick "Turd Furgeson"
19:41 < coderphive> Sounds like you're already on my instagram
19:41 < JFDkthx> you and every other idiot corn266
19:41 < JFDkthx> how about you slide into my DMs
19:41 < JFDkthx> jfdkthx#0001
19:41 < JFDkthx> THE ONE
19:41 < JFDkthx> AND
19:42 < JFDkthx> ONLY
19:42 < corn266> yea but how many other idiots have the fish from LISA as their ava
19:42 < Hatter> JFDkthx: You're still not sure why bad things happen to you when you're messing with me?
19:42 < coderphive> LISA is dope
19:42 < Hatter> maybe you can figure it out
19:42 < JFDkthx> Hatter: that was oddly coincidental
19:42 < JFDkthx> i'll give the bot that
19:42 < JFDkthx> but for all intensive purpoises, you had nothing to do with it
19:42 < coderphive> If we all CTCP Finger Hatter at the same time he'll probably DC
19:43 < JFDkthx> false
19:43 < JFDkthx> i finger mistiry all the time
19:43 < JFDkthx> always stays in tip top shape
19:43 < coderphive> pretty sure dbcc and mistiry are just bots
19:44 < coderphive> killdash9 is def a bot, just one written in mayan hieroglyphs
19:44 < Hatter> JFDkthx: and the phrase is "intents and purposes" you goofball
19:44 < coderphive> cryptic1 is a bot based on shitty, early stage NLP
19:44 <@JollyRgrs> lol... intensive purposes
19:44 < coderphive> ^ also lol
19:44  * JollyRgrs purposes intently
19:44 < corn266> JFDkthx, the phrase is "in tents and porpoises"
19:44 < coderphive> intents & purposes JFDkthx
19:45 < JFDkthx> dont correct me
19:45 < JFDkthx> i said what i did for a reason
19:45 < coderphive> o ok
19:45 < corn266> s/dont/dont not
19:45 < abakedapplepie> im in a porpoise right now
19:45 < Casteil> "intense purposes"
19:45 < Casteil> :P
19:45 <@cryptic1> i am a bot
19:45 < abakedapplepie> we know
19:45 < Sousapro> I need this: https://www3.lenovo.com/medias/lenovo-laptop-thinkpad-25-retro-1.jpg?context=bWFzdGVyfHJvb3R8OTg4NzR8aW1hZ2UvanBlZ3xoOWQvaDg2Lzk1MzU0MTYwNDE1MDIuanBnfDVlZmQ5YTZhNjVhNWU4M2Q0OGZmYTkyZTFkNWE2YTAyZmY0ZjQ2Y2I1NTBjZDIwYTExYWFhMDFhN2VjZjA5N2Q
19:45 <@JollyRgrs> i am bot
19:45 < Heresiarch> abakedapplepie: make sure you turn quick when you pull out. Those bastards bite hard.
19:45 < coderphive> cryptic1, we know
19:45 <@cryptic1> early alpha version of the ravioli bot
19:45 <+giant_it_burrit> the clit mouse
19:45 <+giant_it_burrit> aw yiss
19:45 < Sousapro> $felda, pfsense
19:45 < Casteil> "beep boop I am a robot"
19:45 <@JollyRgrs> i am bot!
19:45 < Sousapro> giant_it_burrit: ++
19:45 <@cryptic1> beep boop I am a bot!
19:45 <+giant_it_burrit> beep beep imma jeep
19:45 < Casteil> yuck... Sousapro that doesn't look at all nice to use
19:46 < Sousapro> Casteil: I know
19:46 < Sousapro> Casteil: It's probably terrible
19:46 <+giant_it_burrit> find the nub
19:46 < Casteil> those fuckin keys lol
19:46 <@cryptic1> all the ops here are just ai bots
19:46 <@JollyRgrs> I AM BOT!
19:46 < Sousapro> Casteil: still want it
19:46 <+giant_it_burrit> rub the nub
19:46 < Sousapro> touchpoint mice are awesome
19:46 < abakedapplepie> Sousapro: get a t70
19:46 < Sousapro> I remember fragging with those
19:46 < coderphive> JollyRgrs is a bot running mostly IO processing on a raspberri pi
19:46 <@JollyRgrs> i am bot?
19:46 < Sousapro> trackpad < trackpoint for gaming
19:46 < coderphive> explains why he's so slow
19:46 < Sousapro> beep beep i'm a sheep?
19:47  * coderphive waits for delayed kick
19:48 <@JollyRgrs> i am.... bot.
19:49 < JFDkthx> turing
19:50 < ekaj_> s/bot/hot
19:51 <@cryptic1> i am a bot
19:51 < Sousapro> s/a bot/hot
19:51 <@cryptic1> ugh its bmurt
19:51 < ekaj_> s/s\a bot\/hot.hot
19:51 < ekaj_> sheet
19:51 < bmurt> you know it sweet cheeks
19:51 < ekaj_> which cheeks are sweet
19:53 < Matt_YOO> anyone doing OSD to Optiplex 790\990 with SCCM?
19:59 <@JollyRgrs> used to
19:59 <@JollyRgrs> it's been a few years, but yes to both
19:59 < DomLS3> get out cryptic1
19:59 < DomLS3> I saw no such request
20:00 < spstarr> got it working
20:01 <@JollyRgrs> our access mgmt mgr... it is too funny having passively passive agressive people at work
20:01 <@JollyRgrs> i want a sec. group added... i have rights to make it myself, but that's frowned upon here (we're SUPER ITIL)
20:01 < AnimalFarmPig> I can't imagine this database ever becoming annoying to use-- https://i.imgur.com/eorwOq6.png
20:01 <@JollyRgrs> so i email the mgr and ask for the group... every time i ask i get "ok, i'll need to put in a service request for that"
20:01 <@JollyRgrs> so obv. i could just do that myself... but i don't want to fill out paperwork
20:02 <@JollyRgrs> would rather go "pls create sec group 'dongers', pls and thanks"
20:05 < felda> I'm back
20:05 < nurgle> IM BACK BITCHES
20:05 < MikeSpears> felda: hai
20:05 < nurgle> goddamit felda
20:06 < MikeSpears> I'm thinking about doing VyOS
20:06 < felda> sup
20:06 < felda> that's cool
20:06 < Matt_YOO> I copied my TS, only changed the Windows 10 .wim from 1709 to 1803, but now the USB series 6 drivers wont install.  They are windows 7 drivers anyway, but could the jump from 1709 --> 1803 have broke their compatibility?
20:06 < felda> I heard GUI is in the works for that but so far no luck
20:06 < MikeSpears> Matt_YOO: yes
20:06 < MikeSpears> felda: who needs a GUI
20:06 <@JollyRgrs> MikeSpears: yes, it could have
20:06 <@JollyRgrs> err... Matt_YOO
20:07 <@JollyRgrs> that's a new windows 10 build version
20:07 < felda> GUIs are the best
20:07 < MikeSpears> felda: possibly
20:07 < Matt_YOO> :(
20:07 <@JollyRgrs> windows 10 builds are not created equal
20:07 < combatdud3> estranger: Still around?
20:07 <@JollyRgrs> are you sure you NEED drivers?
20:07 <@JollyRgrs> win10 has built-in drivers for most all of the older models
20:07 < estranger> yo
20:07 < combatdud3> estranger: can I ask some advice real quick?
20:08 <+giant_it_burrit> just ask
20:08 < estranger> of course
20:08 < MikeSpears> JollyRgrs: sup fam
20:08 < DomLS3> combatdud3: no, do not stick your dick in the toaster
20:08 <@JollyRgrs> yo MikeSpears
20:08 < Matt_YOO> JollyRgrs: good point, the default win10 works... not sure how i can disable them from auto installing these for just this model
20:08 < felda>  (ง •̀_•́)ง vvv upsetti
20:08 <@JollyRgrs> Matt_YOO: you have just one huge driver pool currently?
20:08 < estranger> DomLS3, I was gonna go with "don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk" but that's a good one too
20:08 < combatdud3> https://pastebin.com/YCX2Ywva
20:08 < combatdud3> If you have a FUCK TON of errors similar to that. Is the issue with the kafka jars or with the Java install?
20:08 < JFDkthx> jfc
20:09 <@JollyRgrs> you really should move to detecting driver model during TS and only using the driver package related to that (hopefully Dell family driver cab file contents)
20:09 < estranger> combatdud3, what JDK are you using?
20:09 < estranger> combatdud3, er JRE
20:09 < Matt_YOO> yes basically.  i have 2 driver packs that try to apply based on model before it just does Apply Device Drivers..
20:09 < estranger> combatdud3, probably your java install version is not new enough
20:09 < combatdud3> Looks like Oracle 8
20:09 < dragonfleas> let's be real tho
20:10 <@JollyRgrs> or you can EXCLUDE those two models from the "apply all drivers"
20:10 <@JollyRgrs> as a quick resolution
20:10 < dragonfleas> small business MSP's are garbage 99% of the time
20:10 < combatdud3> That's as close as I can get. I don't have access to the machine. It's a customers.
20:10 < estranger> combatdud3, 8_what .. old jre8's were busted
20:10 < estranger> combatdud3, ahh.. well you need to get the minor version from them too
20:10 < Matt_YOO> Hmmm.  An exclude.  Wasnt aware of that.  Let me check that out
20:10 < combatdud3> estranger: what do I want them to be newer than?
20:11 < MikeSpears> felda: I read the docs for VyOS, looks like too much work
20:11 < MikeSpears> lol
20:12 < felda> lmao
20:12 <@cryptic1> Sigyn, ban JFDkthx
20:12 <@cryptic1> thanks
20:12 < estranger> combatdud3, not sure, but if its <101 its prob too old.. let me see if I can find the min version
20:12 < combatdud3> Thanks
20:12 < MikeSpears> cryptic1: sup bby
20:12 < MikeSpears> lol
20:12 < combatdud3> You are a saint
20:13 <@cryptic1> combatdud3, before you say that
20:13 <@cryptic1> he will ask for a finders fee
20:13 <@cryptic1> its basically estranger's thing
20:13 <@cryptic1> stranger danger
20:13 < MikeSpears> yea, he typically asks for souls
20:13 <@JollyRgrs> MikeSpears: i looked at vyos vs pfsense when  iwas choosing... i forget exactly why, but i also thought vyos wasn't good
20:13 < MikeSpears> sometimes he gives you a free trial tho
20:13 < estranger> i accept payment in garlicoin
20:14 < rootsudo> Choose FeldaCoin
20:14 < MikeSpears> feldacoin stole from me
20:14 < nthdevops> What does everyone's company use for Web Conferencing and why? We're looking to move to a new provider
20:14 < MikeSpears> and converted all my computers to pfsense
20:14 <+giant_it_burrit> webex for the old banks
20:14 < abakedapplepie> VyOS what is that sounds familiar
20:14 < rootsudo> Its sad
20:14 < MikeSpears> felda should fork pfsense, and name it feldasense
20:14 <+giant_it_burrit> ringcentral aka zoom for anyone else
20:14 < rootsudo> why aren't I interested in 100-115k positions
20:14 < nthdevops> Thanks giant
20:14 < rootsudo> I get recruiters going knock knock all the time
20:15 < rootsudo> and I'm like "no thanks"
20:15 <+giant_it_burrit> rootsudo: where you live
20:15 <+giant_it_burrit> whats your quality of worklife
20:15 < nthdevops> @rootsudo, What are you interested in instead
20:15 < rootsudo> florida/chicago
20:15 < abakedapplepie> oh its a firewall, i get it
20:15 < rootsudo> nthdevops to live in asias, school, language, own business
20:15 <+giant_it_burrit> i turn down 150 because i doubt id get away with murder like i do here
20:15 < rootsudo> giant_it_burrit remote 100% would be amazing
20:15 < estranger> combatdud3, are you suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure its java8 and not 7?
20:15 < MikeSpears> rootsudo: start company and give me 50k
20:15 <+giant_it_burrit> wouldnt want 100
20:15 < rootsudo> MikeSpears I'm actually doing that
20:15 <+giant_it_burrit> id never be motivated
20:15 < combatdud3> estranger: Yeah. I can see the output from the screenshot of ps
20:16 < estranger> wait the thing giving that error actually started?
20:16 < AnimalFarmPig> nthdevops: We use WebEx + WebEx Teams, because we're a Cisco partner
20:16 < rootsudo> I'm going to move my linkedin position to san francisco
20:16 < estranger> im guessing kafka is running on java8 and something is trying to use it.. a connector maybe... and its using java7
20:17 < MikeSpears> rootsudo: eww SF
20:17 < estranger> bad magic number is a java version mismatch
20:17 < MikeSpears> "bad magic number" love the error msg
20:17 < MikeSpears> lol
20:17 < combatdud3> estranger: the connector is runnning java 8
20:17 < combatdud3> That error is from the connector
20:17 < combatdud3> we're running kafka
20:18 <@JollyRgrs> MikeSpears: it's the new carlos santana song
20:18 < combatdud3> they're running the connector
20:18 <@JollyRgrs> i got a bad magic number
20:18 <+giant_it_burrit> JollyRgrs: smooth isa dope track
20:18 <@JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: i'm talkin about classic santana... not new classic santana
20:19 < nthdevops> @AnimalFarmPig, Thanks for the response
20:19 < rootsudo> lol
20:19 < nthdevops> Do you have the equipment necessary to facilitate 1080p?
20:19 <@cryptic1> feldacoin is a scam
20:19 < nthdevops> Seems like if we just use some workstations then it's 720p cap
20:19 <@cryptic1> only buy #reddit-sysadminCOIN
20:19 < MadCamel> but it's got electrolytes. and pfsense.
20:19 < AnimalFarmPig> nthdevops: yes. Cisco makes a bunch of hardware/appliances for doing conferencing / telepresence
20:20 < AnimalFarmPig> nthdevops: from what I understand, it's kind of pricey
20:20 <@killdash9> But #reddit-sysadmin-lootcrates for chances at coins
20:20 < nthdevops> I see, my boss wants to move to something that has a low time commitment for starting a meeting
20:20 < nthdevops> RN we're using our own conferencing bridge separate from the video chat
20:20 < nthdevops> We're also using polycom atm
20:20 <@JollyRgrs> nthdevops: skype meetings
20:20 <@JollyRgrs> skype4biz
20:20 < nthdevops> Yea that's an option that we're considering
20:20 < nthdevops> It has the best video quality it seems
20:21 <@JollyRgrs> surface hubs are really nice to use, too
20:21 < AnimalFarmPig> nthdevops: if you're willing to spend the money, get in touch with Cisco. The newest version of Spark (now called WebEx Teams) does some really cool integrations with video conferencing appliances in meeting rooms
20:21 < dragonfleas> why is adobe reader DC now prompting for adobe ID
20:21 < dragonfleas> what the fuck
20:21 < dragonfleas> it's reader
20:21 < dragonfleas> >:(
20:21 <@JollyRgrs> we just reserve one like we do a conf room, and then you just tap the screen to join
20:21 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: lol
20:21 < abakedapplepie> SaaS all the things!!!!11
20:21 < dragonfleas> now I gotta export this reg key on EVERYONE's computer
20:21 <@JollyRgrs> i forget what teh D stands for, but the "C" in DC stands for Cloud
20:21 < abakedapplepie> dumb cloud
20:22 < ebol4> dong clutcher
20:22 < abakedapplepie> dick cloud
20:22 < MikeSpears> Datacenter
20:22 < MikeSpears> DATACENTER
20:22 < MadCamel> anyone here have a checkpoint subscription or support plan? Trying to get a file from their site but it's paywalled off from me.
20:22 < dragonfleas> psexec uses SMBv1 right?
20:22 < MikeSpears> DATACENTER
20:22 < MikeSpears> DATACENTER
20:22 < abakedapplepie> dragonfleas: no
20:22 < dragonfleas> it doesn't?
20:22 < MikeSpears> nothing uses SMBv1
20:22 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: it uses copy \\computer\admin$
20:22 < MadCamel> I'd be willing to trade a video of two camels in a car singing deathmetal if anyone can help me out
20:22 < nthdevops> @AnimalFarmPig, Thanks
20:22 < estranger> combatdud3, something w/ the werong version of java is trying to run a jar compiled w/ a different version
20:23 < combatdud3> Yeah I figure.
20:23 < combatdud3> Thanks :D
20:23 < nthdevops> Adobe Dick Cloud
20:23 < nthdevops> Catchy name
20:23 < AnimalFarmPig> nthdevops: for example, if a person sets up a meeting via WebEx / WebEx Teams and walks into a room with a Spark Board (not sure what the new branding is for these), the Spark board / Spark client on a phone/laptop are able to do an ultrasonic handshake (apparently) to provide presence information and automatically start the meeting on the board
20:23 < nthdevops> Very cool, but we don't need something that fancy
20:23 < nthdevops> We just have 2 conference rooms at 2 locations each
20:23 <@cryptic1> datacenter?
20:23 < MadCamel> webex. hiss. boo.
20:23 < dragonfleas> is this a decent deal? https://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/sys/d/dell-poweredge-r710-rev-2/6614676152.html
20:23 < nthdevops> The current process is a bit slow and we'd like to speed it up
20:24 < nthdevops> Video quality + the time to call out/in is priority
20:24 <@cryptic1> dragonfleas, oh its a deal but is it a good deal thats is the question
20:24 < AnimalFarmPig> nthdevops: I don't work with this stuff day to day, just passing on what I've heard. I just use basic features at work.
20:24 < dragonfleas> cryptic1, lol
20:24 < nthdevops> I've been tasked with researching all the options ;(
20:24 < nthdevops> Too bad there's like 12 providers
20:24 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: can you guarantee that it'll work as expected? Are you gonna get a warranty/support against DoA?
20:24 <@cryptic1> and dragonfleas please stop posting your personal craigslist posts
20:24 < abakedapplepie> i feel like you can get a r710 much cheaper than that with no drives
20:25 < dragonfleas> um, it's on craigslist so i'm going to go to his house and he's going to show me it functioning
20:25 < nthdevops> Zoom, Bluejeans, WebEx, S4B, GoToMeeting, Chime
20:25 < nthdevops> etc,etc,etc
20:25 < nthdevops> Yea it's probably in his basement too @dragonfleas
20:25 < dragonfleas> he may rape me
20:25 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: ...seems legit.
20:25 < dragonfleas> if i don't get on irc in 3 days call the police
20:26 < MikeSpears> lol
20:26 < nthdevops> Text to address to a loved one
20:26 < nthdevops> Once you're there, that's generally good practice for going anywhere/doing a ONS etc
20:26 < nthdevops> Text the*
20:27 < MadCamel> dragonfleas: Ehh you can get similar ones cheaper on ebay even with shipping. lowball him.
20:27 <+giant_it_burrit> ^
20:28 < dragonfleas> honestly R810's seem like a reasonable price
20:28 <+giant_it_burrit> offer him 100 and a handy
20:28 < dragonfleas> they're selling for 400-800 on ebay
20:29 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: yeah, as time goes on, you'll only get it cheaper
20:29 <@JollyRgrs> no HDDs?
20:29 <@JollyRgrs> i'd ask for $200 or $250
20:29 <@JollyRgrs> don't go higher than that
20:29 < onicrom> anyone remember how to safely close a netcat connection youre using to transfer a file?
20:30 < dragonfleas> lmao r910's are huge
20:30 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: however, he may charge his luxury fee: "Just updated all the system firmware to the latest releases."
20:30 < dragonfleas> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Poweredge-R910-Virtualization-Server-2-4ghz-40-Cores-128gb-4x-300gb-H700/372343371862?hash=item56b164f856:g:oC0AAOSwURlbFb5b
20:30 < aName> nthdevops: I have a script with a dead man's switch that sends my last known location to my emergency contact
20:31 < dragonfleas> 128 gigs of ram
20:31 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: prob cheaper running that than two 710s
20:31 <@JollyRgrs> just l2virtgud
20:31 < dragonfleas> yeah^ i agree
20:31 <@JollyRgrs> LOL...
20:31 < dragonfleas> honestly I would use those 300 gig HDD's for storage and add a ssd cache, put unraid on it
20:32 < onicrom> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/305743/how-to-know-when-nc-is-done-transfering-a-file
20:32 <@JollyRgrs> so the ebay site came up fine.... but the description box is proxy blocked
20:32 <@killdash9> estranger: finally got mine rendered. https://i.imgur.com/LnDDIPk.png
20:33 < estranger> killdash9, were you on a boat?
20:33 <@killdash9> can tell data service in Brazil was shit. It barely shows on map. Also, someone left his gps going on a flight to Japan.
20:33 < dragonfleas> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-System-X-Server-x3950-X6-8U-2-2GHz-E7-8880-v4-32x32GB-14-4TB-HDD-62418HU/232660289004?epid=2285144950&hash=item362ba245ec:g:v7cAAOSwn35aoyXv
20:33 < MikeSpears> I'd buy an 810 in a heartbeat if it supported 3.5 disks
20:33 < dragonfleas> WTF
20:33 < nthdevops> @aName, Ifft or some google location history api
20:34 < MikeSpears> dragonfleas: jesus christ fap fap fap
20:35 < dragonfleas> no
20:35 < dragonfleas> no fapping to LENOVO server
20:35 < dragonfleas> lenovo server's are fucking g a r b a g e
20:35 < MikeSpears> that thing is glorious
20:35 < MikeSpears> the cpu
20:35 < MikeSpears> omg
20:35 < MikeSpears> your mom is garbage
20:35 < dragonfleas> hey guys linus here with the all new lenovo x-extreme 16u server, it has twin E7-99000000 xeon 400 core cpu's
20:36 < dragonfleas> it's very budget for the price of only 10 billion dollars
20:36 < nthdevops> Very budget indeed
20:39 < MadCamel> I want some GPUs so I can work more with machine learning. But noooo. Crypto miners gotta ruin everything.
20:40 <@cryptic1> you can using a PI /s
20:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> i tried to make a robot that could learn and it just kept jumping off cliffs
20:41 < nthdevops> @MadCamel, I feel your pain, I just wanted 1
20:41 <@cryptic1> 1080ti forgetaboutit
20:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> 1060 works fine for 1080 gaming
20:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> mine cuts through mos new games at ultra
20:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> most*
20:43 < MadCamel> For quite a while the barrier to entry for everything I'm involved in was very low. Get a computer, install linux, fool around. Cheap and easy. But with machine learning you need big bucks and some cluster time to do anything interesting.
20:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> what are these machine learning programs usually written in?
20:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> C? python?
20:43 < MadCamel> python usually
20:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> seems... slow
20:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> compared to something lower like C++ or C
20:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> wow looks like 60% of machine learning projects use python
20:45 < AnimalFarmPig> you use Python to call libraries written in C++ or C
20:45 <@cryptic1> the rest use java
20:45 < MadCamel> it isn't. Python is just used for high-level interface. There are lower level libraries that run the time sensitive computations on GPUs, CPUs with special acceleration setups(intel), etc. Python is just used to orchestrate
20:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> but C/C++ rule at AI scene at 40%
20:45 < MadCamel> the nitty gritty is handled by C and assembler
20:45 <@cryptic1> java is clearly the best language ever
20:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> cryptic1: huh.. that's weird.. my nose started bleeding
20:46 <@cryptic1> McDonaldsWiFi, hehehe
20:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> I wrote a program that converts decimal to binary in C once
20:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> I was proud of it
20:47  * DomLS3 kicks cryptic1 at the request of The United Stated Of America
20:48 < MadCamel> Man I really hope HR does fire me because I'm super behind on my projects just sitting here with my finger up my nose on IRC
20:48 < DomLS3> MadCamel: Ask and ye shall receive
20:49 < MadCamel> 80% chance they will
20:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> why
20:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> lay offs or you just suck?
20:50 < DomLS3> Or you could just resign. Looks better to your next employer
20:50 < MadCamel> Because I'm a new hire and they can't verify my employment at a previous company that's listed on my resume. It was a flash-in-the-pan startup that fizzled quickly and I was paid under the table so there's not enough in the way of records for them.
20:50 < hxcsp> lol
20:51 < MadCamel> It's policy, no exceptions can be made.
20:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> why'd you include it then
20:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> if it was under the table
20:52 < derpingit> whadaaap
20:52 < derpingit> any u guys use ubiquiti edgerouter?
20:52 < MadCamel> My only question is why they're freaking out about this... 3 weeks after I've been hired. I included it because it was good stuff I did there and I'm proud of it.
20:53 < Ottomite> hmmmmmm its the second half of the England - Belgium game...... prime time to mess with my co workers stream.....
20:53 < abakedapplepie> do it
20:54 < abakedapplepie> you should wait for a particularly sweaty moment
20:54 < nthdevops> You could've listed it as a contract gig
20:54 < Ottomite> I was doing it yesterday just when a scoring aprotunity was building up I would kill his stream
20:55 < DomLS3> what an incredibly douche thing to do
20:55 < Ottomite> DomLS3, its in our culture we fuck with each other like this.
20:55 < Ottomite> I wouldnt do it for the final 16 and on.
20:56 < hxcsp> theres a video of a wife that did that to her husband
20:56 < DomLS3> well fine fuck with each other that's cool but not during a damn game
20:56 < hxcsp> he ends up throwing the macbook at the television
20:56 < Ottomite> LMAO
20:56 < DomLS3> hxcsp: the wife that was hiding behind him with the remote?
20:56 < Ottomite> Every time i cut out his stream i wait like 10-15 seconds and yell goal !
20:56 < hxcsp> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEbZrVdmkV8
20:56 < hxcsp> yeah DomLS3
20:57 <@cryptic1> Sigyn, kline DomLS3
20:57 <@cryptic1> thank you
20:57 < Ottomite> LMAO its Turkish!  My brethren :P
20:58 < Ottomite> See its in my blood to fuck with people watching football :P
20:58 < DomLS3> Sigyn, cryptic1 is being very racist and distriminatory.
20:58 < DomLS3> His behaviour is not acceptable for this server
20:58 < MikeSpears> cryptic1 can do no wrong
20:58 <@cryptic1> DomLS3, it is the server
20:58 < hxcsp> DomLS3: i just brush it off to him being from canada
20:58 < MikeSpears> cryptic1 is best op
20:59 < hxcsp> (they are weird like that)
20:59 < MikeSpears> JollyRgrs is 2nd best op
20:59 < DomLS3> Blame canada! Blame
20:59 < DomLS3> Blame canada! Blame Canadaaaaaaa. They're not even a real country anyway
20:59 < MikeSpears> DomLS3 is racist
20:59 < hxcsp> not even a real country that just legalized weed
20:59 < hxcsp> maybe we should learn from that
21:00 < DomLS3> cryptic1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOR38552MJA
21:01 <+giant_it_burrit> tgot an rd gateway question
21:02 <+giant_it_burrit> when rdping from windows rdp file from webaccess is read correctly
21:02 <+giant_it_burrit> remina has issue
21:06 <@cryptic1> hxcsp, LOL
21:07 <@cryptic1> hxcsp, Russia has condemned us for legalizing
21:07 <@cryptic1> like they should be throwing stones
21:07 <@cryptic1> <_<
21:07 <@cryptic1> >_>
21:07 <@cryptic1> was that politics!!!
21:07  * cryptic1 smirks
21:07 < corn266> cryptic1, everyone knows weed was invented by the CIA to control the masses
21:08 <@cryptic1> corn266, no to control the memes
21:08 <@cryptic1> s/masses/memes
21:08 <@cryptic1> wtf who devoiced that bot last night
21:08  * cryptic1 smirks
21:08 < corn266> ah ha so it was JollyRgrs
21:09 < hxcsp> whoever devoiced the bot devoiced me too, damn
21:09 <@cryptic1> its always JollyRgrs
21:10 < corn266> s/the masses/them asses
21:10 < hxcsp> damnit JollyRgrs
21:10 <+layer-eight> [SED corn266] cryptic1, everyone knows weed was invented by the CIA to control them asses
21:10 <@cryptic1> s/masses/memes
21:10 <@cryptic1> FUUUUU
21:10 < corn266> inb4 layer8 gets -v
21:10 <@cryptic1> you ruined it again corn266
21:10 <@cryptic1> thanks :(
21:11 < corn266> frick
21:12 <@cryptic1> everyone you can blame corn266 for this
21:12 < hxcsp> cryptic1: just add me to chanserv so JollyRgrs can stop screwing me over
21:12  * corn266 hangs head in shame
21:12 <@cryptic1> hxcsp, ask me again on friday or saturday night
21:12 <@cryptic1> right JollyRgrs ?
21:12 < hxcsp> lol
21:13 < hxcsp> im usually drunk by the time im talking to JollyRgrs so i might forget
21:13 <+giant_it_burrit> what a coincedence
21:13 < corn266> cryptic1, if you op me I'll +v layer-eight and we'll be saved
21:13 <@cryptic1> hxcsp, interesting you say taht
21:14 <@cryptic1> corn266, request denied
21:14 < corn266> fuck
21:14 < aName> Silly idea - write a bot for fortnite that just lands and starts building a wall.
21:14 < corn266> well now we can blame cryptic1 for layer-eight being -v
21:14 <@cryptic1> corn266, I see your lootcrate purchases are down this month
21:14 < aName> And just spams comms with MAGA
21:14 <@cryptic1> *ahem*
21:14 < aName> cryptic1: Please drink verification can.
21:14 <@cryptic1> aName, you have to get the material before you can build with it
21:14 < aName> cryptic1: I know
21:15 < corn266> I've slaved away in the lootcrate mines for the past 36hrs wtf
21:15 < aName> cryptic1: Wood is easy enough to come by though lol
21:15 < hxcsp> cryptic1: and you have to ready up before you can get in the game
21:15 < hxcsp> ahem
21:16 <@cryptic1> yeap
21:16 <@cryptic1> come on mistiry ready up
21:17 < hxcsp> they need to allow playground ltm to have friend teams of 8
21:17 <@cryptic1> they need larger teams for sure
21:18 <@cryptic1> i hate they got rid of the bow
21:18 <@cryptic1> was the best weapon to troll teammates who were ahead of you with
21:18 < rootsudo> eh is it bad to resign after a week
21:18 <@cryptic1> "ZOMG some one is shooting at me"
21:18 <@cryptic1> rootsudo, nope
21:18 < rootsudo> err month
21:18 < rootsudo> cryptic1 month
21:18 < rootsudo> I gave it a shot
21:18 <@cryptic1> rootsudo, walk away a let it burn
21:18 < rootsudo> 4 weeks to the day
21:18 <@cryptic1> you tried
21:18 < Hatter> which video game
21:18 < rootsudo> cryptic1 thanks
21:19 <@cryptic1> Hatter, forkknife
21:19 < rootsudo> i just aint for that life I guess
21:19 < hxcsp> now just troll people with impulse nades
21:19 < Hatter> pvp?
21:19 < rootsudo> I'm going to drive to chicago
21:19 < rootsudo> spend a day or two in nashville
21:20 < rootsudo> I think I'll drive 6 hours a night, 7/8pm-5/6am
21:20 <@cryptic1> Hatter, typical battleroyal type game and god damn it like you have not heard of fortnight
21:21 <@cryptic1> I am going to start thinking you really are JFDkthx
21:21 < Hatter> it's spelled fortnite for starters
21:21 < Hatter> and of course I've heard of it
21:21 < Hatter> I asked if you were playing the PVP half
21:21 <@cryptic1> forkknife actuall
21:21 < rootsudo> Has any of you guys been in wichita?
21:21 <@cryptic1> actually
21:21 < hxcsp> ill play the PVE mode with people if they have it
21:21 < hxcsp> but noone has it
21:21 <@cryptic1> hxcsp, you bought it?
21:22 < hxcsp> yeah i have it from a while back
21:22 <@cryptic1> no1 plays that paid mode
21:22 < hxcsp> its fun
21:22 <@cryptic1> they make hundreds of millions a month with the free mode
21:22 < hxcsp> it gives you vbucks as a reward.. so while all you shits are buying your battle passes im getting them for free
21:22 < hxcsp> :D
21:22 <@cryptic1> I don't buy battle passes
21:22 <@cryptic1> its just cosmetic crap
21:22 < hxcsp> if you dont have the battle pass then you arent good at the game
21:22 < hxcsp> everyone knows that
21:22 <@cryptic1> hxcsp, LOL
21:23 < hxcsp> thats why they make millions
21:23 < hxcsp> OBVIOUSLY
21:23 <@cryptic1> yeah thats why
21:23 <@cryptic1> omg what will people think!
21:23 < estranger> 100s of Ms a month?
21:23 <@cryptic1> millions
21:23 < estranger> holy shit 300m
21:23 <@cryptic1> they did over 300 million last month
21:23 < hxcsp> cryptic1: mistiry didnt win a game until he got his skin
21:23 < hxcsp> so say what you want you default skin ;p
21:23 <@cryptic1> thats insane eh
21:23 < estranger> that's impressive
21:24 < estranger> i dont even make that in a WHOLE YEAR
21:24 <@cryptic1> hxcsp, he still doesn't win
21:24 < hxcsp> we won
21:24 <@cryptic1> estranger, hah
21:24 <@cryptic1> hxcsp, lies
21:24 < hxcsp> no lies
21:24 <@cryptic1> hxcsp, you damn well know JollyRgrs steals all the good loot from teammates
21:24 < estranger> Epic is private too
21:25 < felda> ooof severe thunderstorm warning until 7
21:25 < felda> this storm is coming in HOT
21:25 < hxcsp> lol
21:25 < aName> lol at not paying means you're bad at the game
21:25 < estranger> how did anyone get those numbers... /me reads on
21:25 < hxcsp> cryptic1: maybe you should all play more
21:25 <@cryptic1> prob from epic
21:25 < hxcsp> seems like im the only one online
21:25 < hxcsp> ;P
21:25 < aName> hxcsp: My boss might get mad if I started playing video games.
21:26 < aName> It's one thing to spend all day on reddit and IRC
21:26 <@cryptic1> hxcsp, I probably should but got hooked on an rts like game from the current sale
21:26 < aName> games are another
21:26 <@cryptic1> aName, fire your boss then
21:26 < hxcsp> aName: if you arent working from home in 2018 you are doing it wrong
21:26 < felda> shall we compare E-PEEN sizes?
21:26 < estranger> SuperData Research?  that doesnt sound fake at all
21:26 < felda> my steam library is now 620 games
21:27 < estranger> (games) Consumers spent an estimated $9.1 billion digitally across all platforms, up from $7.3 billion last May .. jesus christ people
21:27 <@cryptic1> thats it felda come on
21:28 < aName> hxcsp: You hiring?
21:28 < hxcsp> estranger: we are the nintendo generation
21:28 < felda> the secret is the cheap bundles with games that aren't that good
21:28 < hxcsp> aName: oh i dont work from home, i was just saying
21:28 < hxcsp> i am not that lucky
21:28 < aName> hxcsp: lol
21:28 < felda> https://www.fanatical.com/en/bundle
21:28 < aName> Yeah I have hundreds of games I have no intent of playing
21:28 < estranger> ahh they pay for their data. cool
21:28 < aName> Because they were bundled with some other game I did want and the whole pack was cheaper than buying just that game
21:29 <@cryptic1> felda stop buying shitty games
21:29 < hxcsp> pfsense simulator
21:29 < felda> YOU CAN'T STOP ME
21:29 <@cryptic1> felda, I am gonna
21:29 < estranger> hmm so how do THEY make money then... /me keeps reading
21:29 <@cryptic1> you will listen to me or ELSE!
21:30 < felda> listen
21:30 < hxcsp> two words
21:30 < felda> comcast told me I went over my 1TB limit
21:30 < hxcsp> micro
21:30 < hxcsp> transactions
21:30 < felda> so I said FUCK YOU and bought every cheap game I could find and downloaded it via steam
21:30 < DomLS3> felda: watch your god damn kanguage
21:30 < hxcsp> and then you had to pay for your overages
21:30 < DomLS3> language
21:30 < felda> they gave me a free month so I don't owe them for overages
21:30 < estranger> no you get 2 free months before they charge.. yer good .. FOR NOW
21:30 < estranger> jah
21:31 < felda> so I figured
21:31 < felda> why not download my entire steam library while I have the free unlimited data
21:31 < hxcsp> "hey you are using a lot of data... so for two months why dont you just go hog fucking wild, then we can charge you"
21:31 < hxcsp> makes sense
21:31 < estranger> felda, what is bullshit is if I xfer data to a buddy downtown that is on comcast.. so it never leaves comcast's network.. im still metered >:D
21:31 < estranger> felda, exactly, go cray-cray
21:31 < felda> estranger I'm literally going off the charts https://i.imgur.com/qpu96qJ.png
21:32 < felda> Quadrupled my normal data usage
21:32 < estranger> hxcsp, logic is if you are syncing something like backups that first sync/push is going to be a lot of data then it will leverl off
21:33 < DomLS3> who can understand from 1:00 and on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w&list=PLNZodcmttc6IcROoVpZJiudVNpo4XPO-I
21:34 < aName> felda: A whut now
21:34 < aName> felda: A ... limit
21:34 < dragonfleas> 🅱️
21:34 < hxcsp> wtf
21:34 < hxcsp> i wonder how many takes it took this guy to do this
21:34 < DomLS3> lol
21:34 < corn266> 3
21:35 < felda> aName yeah Comcast really likes to hamstring its users for more dollary doos
21:36 < hxcsp> fuck i have a webinar from 3pm-4pm
21:36 < hxcsp> idk when im going to take my daily nap
21:36 < hxcsp> why cant people schedule stuff for earlier
21:36 < int0x1C8> felda is that your actual line internet connection or a mobile data plan?
21:37 < felda> int0x1C8 that's my 100% for realsies comcast internet data allowance
21:37 < aName> felda: I mean, I have a 1TB limit on my VPS
21:37 < hxcsp> int0x1C8: i believe he lives on a farm somwhere in like rural ohio
21:37 < aName> felda: But that's like, five bucks a month lol
21:37 < felda> aName I use PIA VPN to hide all my content from Comcast lol
21:37 < felda> FUCK YOU COMCAST
21:38 < felda> it was either Comcast 70mpbs for $35 or Frontier DSL 5mbps for $45 so I made my choice
21:38 <@cryptic1> felda they still know
21:38 < felda> I route all my traffic through cryptic1's house
21:38 <@cryptic1> O_o
21:38 <@cryptic1> I hope not
21:38 < felda> wow cryptic1 watches a lot of anime
21:38 <@cryptic1> those memes would overload my switching gear
21:39 < abakedapplepie> im about to switch back to comcast
21:39 < abakedapplepie> :(
21:39 < cryptic1s_ISP> wow cryptic1 was reading sysadmin articles and suddenly started watching youtube videos about how train engines sound
21:39 < aName> felixphew: I use PIA too
21:39 < abakedapplepie> tired of my awful connection
21:39 < int0x1C8> wow, I thought data caps were a myth
21:39 < aName> felixphew: Because otherwise spectrum shapes the shit out of my traffic
21:39 < felda> speaking of
21:40 < felda> do you guys like watching videos about different engine sounds?
21:40 < aName> felda: It's SUPER obvious
21:40 < abakedapplepie> neat ones, sure
21:40 < aName> felda: Like, connect to the VPN and everything works
21:40 < aName> felda: Disconnect and it's like dialup
21:40 < abakedapplepie> like that one that hit youtube last month with the rat rod with 8 individual turbos
21:40 < abakedapplepie> neat
21:40 < felda> you might enjoy my playlist NEAT OLD STUFF
21:40 < felda> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDUk2otSFQSFQhFIRA0tf_BO_Zv2KEJ7y
21:48 < Sousapro> I LIKE TRAINS
21:48 < Sousapro> felda: I did that with my road king
21:48 < Sousapro> felda: they all effectively sound similar
21:48 < Sousapro> lol
21:48 < Casteil> meh, so that explains why this room always smells dank
21:48 < Sousapro> Casteil: it's cryptic1's sandals
21:49 < Casteil> carpet pad they used in here (floor is concrete) isn't concrete rated and it doesn't even have a moisture barrier
21:49 <@cryptic1> ?
21:49 < Sousapro> :P
21:49 < Casteil> I think I'm about to tear it out and put some locking vinyl in
21:49 < vinrock> jesus fuck how long does it take for o365 to start a message trace
21:49 < vinrock> i submitted these fuckers like an hour ago
21:49 < Sousapro> I thought you had to get RMS sandals when you got opped
21:49 < Casteil> 3 weeks
21:49 < abakedapplepie> felda: my old neighbor had a hit or miss air compressor
21:49 < Sousapro> vinrock: a long ass time
21:49 < felda> I'VE SHOWN YOU MY TRAINS PLAYLIST PLS RESPOND
21:49 < abakedapplepie> so annoying but so cool
21:49 < Sousapro> vinrock: Exchange 2016 is much faster
21:50 < Casteil> vinrock: I've found that for all the convenience of o365, reporting shit is insanely slow
21:50 < vinrock> like tracing a single mesage is nice, blammo here it is
21:50 < vinrock> try doing one that actually has some criteria to it and when the hell is it gona start
21:50 < Sousapro> felda: https://media.giphy.com/media/GpLmqwmHWGc5G/giphy.gif
21:51 < Sousapro> vinrock: I feel like the o365 servers are massively oversubscribed but no one cares because email
21:51 < vinrock> yeah
21:51 < Sousapro> vinrock: who needs more than 10 iops anyway
21:51 < vinrock> would be nice if you could pay a little more for more server resources
21:51 < Casteil> welp
21:51 < vinrock> theyd probabloy just charge more and make a super shit tier
21:51 < Sousapro> vinrock: or if the management servers were given more resources
21:52 < Casteil> I've got some extra cash on hand from a couple craigslist sales recently.. that'll help soften the blow of buying some locking vinyl for my office
21:52 < Sousapro> vinrock: how many people are querying exchange about message traces at any given times?
21:52 < Sousapro> not enough to slow down a management cluster
21:53 <+giant_it_burrit> anyone here connect to rdgateway wwith loonix?
21:55 < Sousapro> giant_it_burrit: http://deadlinux.wikia.com/wiki/Loonix ?
21:55 < Sousapro> I would say that it's slightly old
21:56 < felda> I'm proud to announce that tonight I shall attempt to restore felda.io to its former gloroy
21:57 < Nightcinder> woo fixed my exchange search issue, content index got corrupted
21:57 < Heresiarch> felda: "former"? It's glorious as it is!
21:58 <+giant_it_burrit> ubuntu then smartass
22:01 < Nightcinder> 'ContentIndexMailboxesToCrawl: 364
22:01 < Nightcinder> welp
22:01 < AnimalFarmPig> anyone know off the top of their heads how to get an ubuntu system to allow me to set a user password that does not comply with the inane password complexity requirements whoever set up on this box set? I am root, setting password for a non-root user
22:03 < AnimalFarmPig> I think it was Cisco who set up this box. They want minimum length 14, upper, lower, digit, non-alphanumeric. They can go suck a fat cock.
22:03 < felda> Heresiarch I'm probably gonna redo the website to be honest
22:04 < Heresiarch> AnimalFarmPig: `echo $shitty_password | mkpasswd -m sha-256 -s` and dump the value into the shadow file?
22:04 < felda> I'm gonna try and make a right proper website on the front
22:04 < AnimalFarmPig> Heresiarch: thx amigo
22:04 < felda> and then I'll have a secret link to the dark side for all you HOOLIGANS
22:04 < Heresiarch> AnimalFarmPig: yarp
22:04 < _KaszpiR_> AnimalFarmPig --force or just write encrypted password directly to /etc/shadow?
22:04 < AnimalFarmPig> I'm going to set the password to "guest" just to fuck with these sons of bitches
22:05 < AnimalFarmPig> guest:guest, fuck you cisco
22:05 < _KaszpiR_> or disable pam_cracklib
22:05 < AnimalFarmPig> adduser guest sudo
22:06 < technickel> Anyone located in the bay area and looking for a new job? Message me
22:07 < rpifan> yall
22:12 < ebol4> what's a normal human snack
22:13 < rpifan> for what
22:13 < ebol4> eating
22:13 < DomLS3> another shooting
22:13 < ebol4> was it at Hatter's office
22:14 < Hatter> why
22:14 < ebol4> oh good
22:14 < DomLS3> I wish it were
22:14 < ebol4> you're still alive
22:14 < DomLS3> no
22:14 < DomLS3> he should be died
22:14 < Hatter> but that's a terrible thing to say
22:14 < ebol4> you'll have to kill him yourself
22:14 < DomLS3> Hatter: Only when speaking about others
22:14 < DomLS3> When it's you, it's a wonderful thing to say
22:14 < ebol4> chop chop who got shot DomLS3
22:15 < DomLS3> some people at a newspaper place in Maryland
22:15 < Sousapro> :(
22:15 < Sousapro> my nation has gone nuts
22:15 < ebol4> weird target
22:16 < alazare619> https://www.drmartens.com/us/p/mens-boots-pride-rainbow-backhand-pascal-pride i'm so confused that dr marten sells a boot that is basically the boot of the skin heads (see american history x) in gay pride colors
22:16 < insecurity> it's a skinhead boot because a movie?
22:16 < Sousapro> alazare619: those boots are standard boots for anyone who wants quality boots
22:17 < Sousapro> doc martens are awesome
22:17 < Sousapro> the english ones
22:17 < alazare619> insecurity: no its just the boot that skin heads wear
22:17 < Sousapro> the american ones not as much
22:17 < alazare619> you dont see them wearing eastlands or what not
22:17 < alazare619> its the 1460 dr marten
22:17 < SynMonger> that's not even up to weekly chicago numbers, c'mon
22:18 < abakedapplepie> doc martens are badass
22:18 < Sousapro> abakedapplepie: no, they make you a skinhead apparently
22:18 < abakedapplepie> oh
22:18 < alazare619> thinking about getting a new pair
22:18 < abakedapplepie> shit
22:18 < Sousapro> abakedapplepie: because that's what clothing does
22:18 < alazare619> https://www.drmartens.com/us/p/originals-boots-harvest-diego
22:18 < abakedapplepie> guess i missed that memo
22:19 < Sousapro> abakedapplepie: same
22:19 < Sousapro> abakedapplepie: weird that my friends in Portland didn't seem bothered by them
22:19 < abakedapplepie> i have a lot of doc martens shoes, didnt pay for any of them lol
22:19 < abakedapplepie> thats what happens when you create 500 coupons for free boots and sequentially number them
22:19 < abakedapplepie> people like me will take notice and take advantage
22:20 < estranger> wow @ possible new huge leak.  Thanks elasticsearch (not really their fault)
22:20 < abakedapplepie> brown boots, black boots, dress boots, knee high boots
22:20 < abakedapplepie> i got them all
22:20 < abakedapplepie> lol
22:20 < abakedapplepie> the knee highs are fun
22:21 < SynMonger> if you're a lumberjack
22:21 < alazare619> abakedapplepie: hooker boots?
22:21 < abakedapplepie> they have the manly outsole
22:22 < abakedapplepie> ive never worn them publicly.
22:22 < AnimalFarmPig> alazare619: most skins aren't racist
22:22 < abakedapplepie> the one pair i really like seems like they dont make anymore
22:23 < abakedapplepie> theyre lined with velvet
22:23 < Sousapro> SynMonger: I'm 6'8" and tall
22:23 < Sousapro> SynMonger: do I qualify as lumberjack? I have a beard
22:23 < AnimalFarmPig> actually, quite a lot of skins are explicitly anti-racist
22:23 < Sousapro> s/tall/wide
22:23 < Sousapro> AnimalFarmPig: how does that work?
22:23 < Giant81> Sousapro: no, you have to be taller to be a lumberjack
22:23 < AnimalFarmPig> SHARP, etc.
22:23  * Giant81 is a lumberjack 
22:24 < abakedapplepie> skins are anti racist about as much as pepe is not a racist meme
22:24 < abakedapplepie> and pepe is a racist meme
22:24 < abakedapplepie> sorry not sorry
22:24 < AnimalFarmPig> Sousapro: skin head culture wasn't racist. A small portion of it was coopted by racists and now all skins are stereotyped as racists
22:24 < Giant81> now you can 'disc-upgrade' a linux box, and move from one version of MacOS to the other
22:24 < Giant81> anyone tried upgrading a server 2012 box to R2 or 2016?
22:24 < Sousapro> AnimalFarmPig: gotcha
22:24 < AnimalFarmPig> it was a working class kind of thing in the UK in the 70's and early 80's
22:24 < SynMonger> Sousapro: I dunno, do you cut down trees for a living?
22:25 < Sousapro> SynMonger: I work with Forests on a regular basis :)
22:25 < abakedapplepie> i have a tree in my back yard that i trimmed last month
22:25 < abakedapplepie> im a lumberjack
22:25 < Giant81> I have 200 acres I manage with a chainsaw, does that count?
22:26 < Sousapro> does cutting down users count?
22:26 < Sousapro> if so, I'm definitely a lumberjack
22:26 < Giant81> topped the dead maple in my front yard with a boom lift last summer
22:30 < MadCamel> I was about to yell something about how horrible a practice topping trees is.. But yeah it's ok for dead ones obviously heh
22:31 < MadCamel> Spent the past 4 years caring for an ash tree in my yard and nursing it back to health. Stupid ash borer.
22:34 < alazare619> dis day needs to get over so i can go home and try out my steam controller!!!
22:34 < Sousapro> alazare619: they are pretty awesome
22:34 < Sousapro> that gyroscope <3
22:34 < Sousapro> instinctive headshots with no aim assist is awesome
22:35 < joelazot> Hi
22:36 < MikeSpears> nerds
22:36 < MikeSpears> nerds
22:39 < alazare619> raise your donger if you were an SA when dialup was still a thing
22:41 < sadbox> not me
22:41 < sadbox> CheckYourSix: I'm back!
22:41 < sadbox> CheckYourSix: if you didn't get your q about levels in NYC vs. SF answered
22:41 < combatdud3> estranger: I think I found it.
22:42 < estranger> combatdud3, do tell!
22:42 < combatdud3> Basically kafka-connect spawns an AdminClient that uses one set of (correct) settings and a Consumer that uses a second set of (incorrect) settings.
22:42 < estranger> settings as in JAVA_HOME?
22:43 < combatdud3> Nah. These are the kafka settings. So security.protocol sasl.mechanis,
22:43 < combatdud3> etc etc
22:43 < joelazot> hopefully when i get home from school the guy selling a server to me will have responded fuck sakee
22:46 < alazare619> close your eyes draw a star with your mouse
22:46 < alazare619> is your mouse anywhere close to where you expected it to be?
22:47 < joelazot> yes
22:50 <+CheckYourSix> sadbox: What's the answer
22:50 < technonerd> How bored are you
22:51 < sadbox> CheckYourSix: AFAIK goog/FB/most of the big people have the same pay scales for NYC + SEA + SF
22:51 <+CheckYourSix> Oh nice
22:52 <+CheckYourSix> genr8_: Looks like the SUA1500RM2U (the old school one) actually has 0.3% instead of 5%. Plus, much cheaper. And a longer run time for the same thing. Still accepts a NMC. Just no option for expansion. I'm gonna see if I can find one for the right price. Downside is I hear they're loud
22:56 < xamithan> Grr this is difficult
22:56 <+CheckYourSix> Anyone have any recommendations on replacement batteries for APC UPSs?
22:56 < xamithan> How do I remove slices on BSD
22:56 < GreyKite> Man, I need to stop assuming that people are even mildly competent
22:57 < xamithan> I don't have gpart either
22:57 < GreyKite> xamithan: what BSD flavor?
22:57 < xamithan> freebsd 6
22:57 < GreyKite> Oh, way back when
22:57 < xamithan> Its an internal backup system so it doesn't get updated.  lol I can't find any good guides or manuals
22:57 < GreyKite> and what are we trying to do?
22:58 < GreyKite> I think the toolset has changed since then, let me think
22:58 < xamithan> I accidentally made a slice when I should have just partitioned the entire system.  Can't figure out how to delete it
22:58 < xamithan> Everything on google tells me to use gpart...
23:04 < aName> <3 One of the C-levels asked me to recommend software to write a macro to interact with this one program... tell him about AHK. Couple hours later he's got somewhat functional code and is asking me for help troubleshooting
23:04 <+CheckYourSix> +++
23:04 < aName> When most of my users balk at navigating to a network share... it's refreshing
23:05 < xamithan> I really wish the man page for fdisk told me how to do it like a sane system
23:06 < felda> I wonder if I can host my website on pfsense
23:07 < felda> cPanel doesn't work for FreeBSD so narp
23:10 < nthdevops> @aname what program and os?
23:17 < vader-> do any of you have the harmony hub?
23:26 < xamithan> GreyKite: I found sysinstall.  I forgot about that proggie
23:26 < genr8_> xamithan: how do you not have gpart
23:26 < xamithan> Because gpart wasn't introduced until freebsd 9.x
23:26 < enix> kickball posted a photo
23:26 < enix> what a lad
23:27 < genr8_> https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?fdisk
23:27 < enix> So I got a three letter domain as most of you doxing cunts have figured out
23:28 < Alternity> sex.com?
23:28 < scwizard> man this is where terraform really pays off
23:28 < enix> Iv'e had it for a couple of years now. Basically I wanted a super simple, super short domain for my personal stuff and an email address that was easy to say over the phone. I have [a-z]{2}@[a-z]{3}.id.au
23:28 < scwizard> when I realize I need to change the cidr of my VPC
23:28 < scwizard> which of course involves recreating everything
23:28 < Alternity> oh .au?  pass
23:28 < enix> I have to fucking spell out my email address STILL eveyr time someone asks -.-
23:29 < Alternity> i own lastname.me
23:29 < Alternity> i find it quite easy to give firstname@lastname.me
23:29 < scwizard> my email is firstname@firstnamelastname.com
23:29 < Alternity> seems redudant
23:29 < khelpw> You should try to get lasna.me
23:29 < scwizard> lastname.com wasn't availalbe
23:29 < khelpw> lastna.me*
23:29 < enix> I really want <lastname>.<tld> but I have an EXTREMELY common last name
23:29 < Alternity> i also own firstlastname.com
23:29 < enix> basically smith
23:30 < Alternity> ye i would never get .com of my last name
23:30 < Alternity> ugh looks like tucows owns lastname.com
23:30 < Alternity> fuck those domain squatters
23:31 < enix> LOL this company is charge $39/year for you to have a x@<mylastname>.com address
23:31 < enix> fuck off
23:31 < MaxLeiter> they own a bunch of domains, PITA
23:31 < MaxLeiter> e.g. https://leiter.com
23:32 < MaxLeiter> http://leiter.com/ *
23:32 < enix> wow thats so bad yet it's not a bad business concept
23:33 < Alternity> it's why tucows still exists
23:33 < Alternity> i remember using their download site decade+ ago
23:33 < MaxLeiter> oh, its smart for sure
23:33 < MaxLeiter> doesnt mean its respectable
23:33 < MaxLeiter> i ended up going with https://maxleiter.com 🤷‍♂️
23:33 <@killdash9> my last name ends in 'in' so I've got myself an India TLD
23:34 < enix> killdash9's domain is mclov.in everybody
23:34 <+CheckYourSix> I have a really generic name, so all of my domains are taken
23:34 <@killdash9> fuck, time to change names again
23:34 < alazare619> my first name ends in in
23:35 < enix> lol there's a .kiwi
23:35 <+CheckYourSix> I do own FirstMiddleLast.com
23:35 < alazare619> is there a .ez domain?
23:35 < scwizard> Alternity: git.com pisses me off
23:35 < alazare619> yourmomis.ez
23:36 < enix> if there is, tell me so I can nab myself jenniferlop.ez and host crops of her
23:36 < MaxLeiter> $25,000 / month
23:36 < scwizard> someone wants to lease it for 25000 a month
23:36 < Alternity> wow ya, thats bad
23:36 < MaxLeiter> shitttt
23:36 < scwizard> who the fuck would do that
23:36  * enix goes bashful
23:36 < enix> yeah... who would want that...
23:36 < Alternity> my firstname.com just redirects to a dead link
23:36 < Alternity> annoying...
23:36 < scwizard> i didn't say who would want that
23:36 < scwizard> obviously a lot of people want it
23:36 < scwizard> but not for 25000 a month
23:36 < MaxLeiter> I contacted the owner of http://max.me/, wasnt interested in selling
23:37 < enix> LOL there's a gtld called .rich that's $4000/year
23:37 < alazare619> get.rich
23:37 < alazare619> make.money
23:37 < alazare619> mount.me
23:37 < MaxLeiter> makeme.rich
23:37 < MaxLeiter> well shit, time to make a startup for that
23:37 < enix> there's a .wang
23:38 < Alternity> dont forget .soy
23:38 < Alternity> for all the soy boys
23:38 < enix> ilove.wang is available
23:38 < rpifan> lol
23:38 < enix> rpifan: I found your new domain
23:38 < enix> rpifan: or get love.wang and havethe email i@love.wang
23:38 < rpifan> is wang tld
23:39 < MaxLeiter> no wang is wang
23:40 < rpifan> ?
23:41 < alazare619> there is a .meme tld
23:41 < alazare619> not even fucking joking
23:41 < alazare619> what the actual fuck
23:41 < MaxLeiter> rpifan: shitjoke
23:42 < MaxLeiter> didnt ICANN basically say "pay us a buttload of money for any TLD you want?"
23:42 < enix> lol google runs .soy
23:42 < rpifan> culo.soy
23:42 < rpifan> i am an ass
23:43 < Casteil> dear lord that home depot visit was a ragefest
23:43 < enix> How much does it cost for a tld
23:43 < Casteil> not only did it take 5 times longer than it should've, I did the employees' jobs better than they were
23:44 < Casteil> motherfucker you work flooring, I should not be able to find something in topstock before you do
23:44 < Casteil> >.>
23:44 < Casteil> now that I have my material I don't even feel like doing this project..
23:44 < Casteil> I'm just kind of livid now lol
23:45 < enix> whats your project?
23:45 < enix> Also Casteil is ROn Burgendy
23:46 < Casteil> locking vinyl for this subgrade bedroom
23:46 < Casteil> whoever put carpet in last did not use carpet pad that's rated for concrete
23:46 < Casteil> so it always smells dank in here
23:46 < enix> $185,000 to register our own gTLD... I wonder if I can convince my company to spend that
23:47 < nthdevops> Depends prolly
23:47 < enix> Casteil: well get in there and rip that shit up
23:49 < nyox> gentoo's github got compromised
23:50 < enix> no...
23:50 < nyox> the greybeards security has fallen
23:51 < enix> oh so you're fine if you're pulling from gentoo.org
23:51 < enix> which is what 99% of gentoos do
23:51 < Casteil> enix: I know what I'm doing, I used to work flooring at lowe's hence me being more competent than the home depot associates >.>
23:52 < rpifan> hello nthdevops
23:52 < enix> I never questioned that you know what you're doing :P
23:52 < nthdevops> @rpifan, sup
23:52 < nthdevops> Did i just reconnect
23:52 < enix> no
23:53 < rpifan> no need ofr the @ you know
23:53 < nthdevops> It's just habit
23:55 < Sousapro> Casteil: I hate people who just wing it
23:56 < Sousapro> Casteil: so many bad home improvement projects that people think feel right
23:56 < nthdevops> rpifan = raspi or that new york uni
23:56 < rpifan> raspi
23:56 < rpifan> so today i had another interview with thegermans
23:56 < rpifan> and the guy was asking some questions wihch felt more like dev then ops
23:57 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, back to work
23:59 < Casteil> <Sousapro> Casteil: so many bad home improvement projects that people think feel right\
23:59 < genr8_> i have a really weird question. I have a FreeNAS mirror set up on 2 disks. Now i go into "gpart show labels" and its telling me that one drive is "ufs" and one drive is "zfs"
23:59 < rpifan> https://forum.lede-project.org/t/adding-rtl8812au-support-to-glinet150m/16273
23:59 < rpifan> can someone help me make some kernel moudles
23:59 < Casteil> in this case it was most likely the customer not wanting to spend extra money for pad
23:59 < genr8_> how can the drives be mirrored if they're different and which is which
23:59 < Casteil> FYI if you *ever* put carpet down on concrete, use concrete rated pad and/or a good moisture barrier
23:59 < Casteil> this had neither
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