--- Log opened Sat Jun 30 00:00:19 2018
00:08 < millendra> morning guys
00:13 < hello_kitty> if i'm already connected as root via ansible and i want to execute a command as non-root...  do I become: "{{ other_user }}"   ? or do i become:yes, become_user: something
00:14 < hello_kitty> i'm actually not sure how to do that even in plain linux.. i just login again as the other user usually
00:15 < hello_kitty> do we 'sudo' to go down in authority as well?
00:16 < millendra> i dont think sudo works like that but could be wrong
00:16 < pcspkr> su to another user
00:16 < pcspkr> normally
00:16 < pcspkr> but there's also sudo -u
00:18 < AustinS> how i run things as root down as another user is
00:18 < AustinS> su -c 'commands here blah blah' <username>
00:18 < Kobe`> anyone know a ton about ntp and want ot save me a google
00:19 < Kobe`> can the NTP server se tthe min/maxpoll times on clients?
00:19 < Kobe`> or is that only configurable via clients
00:21 < enix> lol the IT director walked in right when I took a huge drag on the vape
00:21 < millendra> you can vape in office?
00:21 < enix> millendra: never asked, don't plan to
00:22 < enix> But when noones here I just stealth vape
00:22 < millendra> not so stealth now
00:22 < enix> The smoking area is literally almost 1km away
00:23 < nthdevops> 1km, nice
00:23 < millendra> you could say its cold in your office its just condensation, but results may vary
00:23 < enix> haha yeah I honestly dont think he minds too much but rather it be an unseen, undiscussed situation
00:24 < narziss> shatter vaping in the office is great.
00:24 < narziss> or is it "shadder"?
00:24 < millendra> i know some of my desktop people vape in the storeroom
00:24 < narziss> I used to breathe shadder at my desk 5 feet from my manager.
00:24 < narziss> no vapor.
00:25 < narziss> purple kush = no stress.
00:25 < enix> So IT time! Back in my old offices I could just give a machine a hostname and it would respond to that. Now; that's not the case. Same subnet, but can't ping that hostname.
00:25 < enix> I can't do that here. So I'm thinkig it's something to do with DNS right?
00:25 < millendra> dynamic dns disabled?
00:25 < enix> millendra: Thats what I thought!
00:25 < enix> I can findthe zones; it should jsut start with bind9 yeah?
00:26 < millendra> we use bind and only have certain boxes that are permissioned for dyndns
00:26 < millendra> its annoying
00:27 < enix> Ew very annoying
00:27 < enix> So I have my zone file for my subnet
00:27 < enix> Do I need to edit it or anything?
00:28 < millendra> what you trying to do? enable dyndns?
00:28 < millendra> or add acls?
00:28 < millendra> brb
00:28 < enix> I'm trying to work out why I can't ping this hostname
00:29 < enix> hello_kitty: su <user> to enter that users shell as that user. We discussed this the other day; if you want to run a particular thing as another user, you need to use the become: yes or something like that
00:29 < millendra> did the hostname get registered in dns?
00:30 < millendra> no wins right?
00:30 < enix> How can I tell
00:30 < enix> Not that I know of
00:30 < enix> I'm new here so still getting the lay of the land
00:30 < millendra> nslookup to server and query the name
00:31 < enix> nah
00:31 < enix> not working
00:31 < hello_kitty> i just ran a test with become: yes; become_user: "{{ username }}" affixed to one task and it seems to have worked
00:31 < enix> Awesome hello_kitty  :)
00:31 < narziss> Does anyone here use "Hello, kitty!" instead of "Hello, world!"
00:32 < enix> hello_kitty i would assume
00:32 < narziss> nein.
00:32 < hello_kitty> i've gotten so lazy that i just output 'hello'
00:32 < narziss> YOU ARE WRONG.
00:32 < narziss> as my manager likes to say.
00:32 < millendra> sounds like a nice manager
00:32 < narziss> HE MIGHT BE IN HERE SO SH
00:33 < narziss> i just who'd the chan out of paranoia...
00:33 < enix> Holy shit there's a seige happening like 15 minutes away from me
00:33 < enix> https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/crime-and-justice/police-close-in-on-wanted-man-zlatko-sikorsky/news-story/0a7a63ef84a5810185e73cd018b56d2e
00:34 < millendra> body in barrel guy
00:34 < millendra> glad they found him
00:35 < millendra> im down in Sydney
00:35 < millendra> been all over the news
00:36 < enix> Yeah I remember seeing something about it
00:36 < enix> Didn't realize it was in Australia though, let alone where I live
00:36 < enix> LOL let alone down the road from the property I'm trying to convince the missus to buy
00:37 < enix> millendra: you remember that civilian police worker shot at Parramatta police station?
00:37 < millendra> yep
00:38 < enix> I was actually on Church Street setting up my cafe when it happened. Didn't hear a thing. I didn't know I was there for it until I saw the times posted in the news and was like "hang on..."
00:39 < enix> I would have either been on the balcony within earshot or literally driving past as it happened..
00:39 < millendra> remind me never to be in the same area as you
00:39 < enix> 100%
00:39 < enix> At least I wasn't there for the Lindtt cafe thing. That would have been shit
00:39 < millendra> my office is like 5 mins from there
00:40 < millendra> but i was on holidays in qld when that was happening
00:40 < enix> BUt we looked out of the balcony from the cafe at the commonwealth bank building waiting for an explosion after the anonymous tip
00:40 < enix> jesus.. did you used to go to that cafe?
00:40 < millendra> nah theres closer cafes
00:40 < enix> Ahk
00:41 < enix> My partners mum used to go there when she had to work in the city
00:41 < millendra> but was more worried bout when he said he had bombs hidden round the city
00:41 < millendra> but that turned out to be bullshit
00:41 < enix> She ended up having to do something in parramatta that day
00:41 < enix> millendra: the dickhead forgot his bloody flag at home, there was no chance of ieds
00:41 < millendra> yep, but didnt know that at the time
00:42 < enix> Yeah true
00:42 < enix> Did you get evacuated?
00:42 < millendra> you know your a lunatic when even the bikies dont want you
00:42 < millendra> our office got put on high alert
00:43 < millendra> not allowed to leave etc
00:44 < enix> Shit go ay
00:44 < enix> So you got stuck in your office all day?
00:44 < enix> Wasn't it something like 20 hours? :\
00:44 < millendra> once it was contained later in the day it was cleared
00:44 < enix> ahk
00:45 < millendra> the area closer to the cafe was in lockdown for longer
00:45 < millendra> i manage a team so was keeping in contact with the guys
00:46 < millendra> but they didnt seem overly concerned lol
00:56 < enix> Yeah if memory serves me right, it was established pretty quickly that the only people in real danger were the people in the cafe.
00:56 < enix> I remember when we heard on the news that he claimed he had bombs planted around the city, everyone around me was like "yeah bullshit mate"
00:58 < corn266> AnimalFarmPig did your boss reply?
01:07 < millendra> enix, yeah pretty much
01:13 < corn266> are there like n-1 other devops out there?
01:13 < enix> ?
01:14 < corn266> ^
01:14 < rpifan> idk why anyone would wanna live in nyc
01:14 < rpifan> its a truly terrible place
01:14 < enix> ?
01:14 < enix> Doesnt it depend on the borough
01:14 < corn266> the borough?
01:14 < enix> I know someone from ( i think ) brooklyn who loved it
01:15 < millendra> you could say the same about most cities i think
01:15 < enix> eh
01:15 < enix> Tell that to Brisbane who put EVERYTHING into fucking Fortitude Valley
01:16 < millendra> yeah but you have ipswitch
01:16 < enix> eh ipswitch isn't too bad
01:16 < enix> my cousin lives out there and loves it
01:16 < rpifan> but nyc is old
01:16 < rpifan> dirty disgusting
01:16 < rpifan> the people are nasty
01:17 < rpifan> its over populated and over regulated
01:17 < millendra> can you go out past 12pm?
01:17 < enix> HA
01:17 < enix> millendra: you've always got the star
01:17 < rpifan> nop
01:18 < millendra> i love remortgaging my house to get a beer, the star is amazing
01:18 < enix> Depends how lucky you are on the tables :P
01:19 < millendra> yeah i guess
01:19 < millendra> i dont go out much anyway
01:19 < millendra> too old for that now
01:19 < enix> A) No such thing
01:19 < enix> B) There's no real point anymore
01:19 < enix> Although I did enjoy drinks with my old colleagues... can't do that at the new job
01:19 < misspwn_> wait....i can remortgate the house for beer money?
01:20 < millendra> too straightedge?
01:20 < enix> misspwn_: and drugs!
01:20 < misspwn_> i'd rather turn tricks
01:20 < enix> millendra: Nah, we have a public image we have to up hold so we'd have to go home first and get changed
01:20 < millendra> yikes
01:20 < enix> Then there's also no public transport to where we live in the sticks lol
01:20 < enix> misspwn_: lmk when you start
01:20 < misspwn_> think imma start now k?
01:20 < misspwn_> it's hot enough
01:20 < enix> millendra: I work for the Zoo up here, so we have to be good boys and girls :)
01:21 < enix> misspwn_: so long as you match the temparture lmfao
01:21 < misspwn_> rofl
01:21 < millendra> zoo would be cool
01:21 < misspwn_> oh shit you work for the zoo, that is tight
01:21 < enix> The zoo is AWESOME
01:22 < misspwn_> do they have your desk in the penguin area?
01:22 < millendra> ive never been to bne zoo
01:22 < misspwn_> you know..to keep the network cool
01:22 < enix> When someones like "Oh I have this IT problem" I'm now like "I'M ON MY WAY", because it means I can go for a nice long walk to where they are, see some cool animals, meet some customers, and there's this understanding here that it always takes twice the time it should to get anywhere due to the customers wanting to chat :)
01:22 < enix> millendra: I'm at Australia ZOo
01:22 < millendra> and here we see enix in its natural habitat
01:23 < enix> misspwn_: No penguins here :( We don't have an aquatic life section (yet) but I'm super keen to get in there with the tigers
01:23 < catbeard> do you ever wait for the IT problem customer to notice you standing next to the meerkats looking at them?
01:23 < millendra> ive been there couple times
01:23 < enix> I need to chat to their keepers soon
01:23 < misspwn_> grooming the dingos? or is that not an animal vegetable or mineral
01:23 < enix> catbeard: No but I want to take photos of them for some IT means to post around the place
01:23 < misspwn_> fuck man, i wana work at a zoo
01:23 < misspwn_> all the cool places like that are probably difficult to get jobs in
01:24 < catbeard> misspwn_: most of us IT do already, just not ones with veterinarians on staff
01:24 < enix> misspwn_: legit just apply whenever they're looking. I had no issues entering this job, but that's because the IT Director and I get along really well.
01:24 < millendra> i feel like my workplace is a zoo sometimes
01:24 < enix> I sent a purely personality-focussed resume in, and they didn't look much past my cover letter I dont think lol
01:24 < enix> Moved 1000km for the job, best decision I've ever made.
01:24 < misspwn_> trying to stay positive over here. been at this MSP since Feb and i mean i like helping as i do, but i really want to get back into internal support
01:25 < enix> bye sydney... bye millendra  :P
01:25 < catbeard> "I wanna help the animals, and pet them, and install VMWare"
01:25 < misspwn_> it would be so nice to not have to worry about billable hours
01:25 < enix> OMG
01:25 < enix> Fuck billable hours
01:25 < catbeard> maybe get some pandas to help out with racking servers
01:25 < misspwn_> billable hours makes me chew my tongue. i've noticed that i chew on my tongue raw more and more
01:25 <+DrGibby|> my :music
01:25 <+DrGibby|> err
01:25 < enix> but legit; misspwn_; the most USEFUL thing I learned to do at an MSP was multitasking (you're a woman so easier for you :P ) then keeping a separate log of work
01:25 < catbeard> XKEYSCORE DETECTED
01:25 < enix> Customers dont care if the works done on october 10 or october 11
01:25 < catbeard> i mean
01:26 < catbeard> what up DrGibby|
01:26 < enix> So distribute your times around so you have a consistent 8 hour day at least
01:26 < misspwn_> oh i can multitask like a champ
01:26 <+DrGibby|> my 🎵 E I G R P 🎵 thread on /r/networking is doing well :D
01:26 < enix> Do you get the super quiet days where you can't get your hours up?
01:26 < misspwn_> yeah that's where i struggle
01:26 < catbeard> enix: only the last couple months while i watch sales channel to see how well they're doing
01:26 < enix> Yeah so we would get super busy days then Friday would be quiet
01:26 < corn266> OLD McGIBBY HAD A FARM E I G R P
01:27 < misspwn_> and i mentioned something and it went up like a wildfire to payroll and she's like "if they don't have anything to do why are we paying them?"
01:27 < misspwn_> so a nasty email got sent out
01:27 < catbeard> it's up: why do we even pay you?
01:27 < catbeard> it's down: why do we even pay you?
01:27 < enix> What I would do is keep a log of what i've done in a notepad, then on the friday I would put some more tickets in to make a basic eight hour day but I could also adjust things; 30 minutes on fixing a broken PST is totally viable
01:27 < millendra> what do payroll do all month
01:27 < enix> Accounts can handle discounts for OT later
01:27 < catbeard> millendra: ouch
01:28 < misspwn_> enix, yeah i would payroll wrap and be like went to dispatch, went to tech services, went to this team blah blah
01:28 < misspwn_> i once had to payroll wrap 4 fucking hours
01:28 < enix> Whats payroll wrap? Like making up fake times or something
01:28 < misspwn_> yeah
01:28 < enix> Ah yeah
01:28 < catbeard> binary padding, with plenty of 0s
01:28 < enix> I literally had a bank of tasks that I did during the week on hand to pick from for those moments
01:28 < misspwn_> so that your time comes out to 7.5hrs even if it isnt all billable
01:28 < enix> Then got along with my customers so they would understand why id did it
01:29 < enix> s/did/done
01:29 < misspwn_> if there isn't anything on my escalation board, i have to go around and look for stuff and if there still isnt stuff to do i can't just sit at my desk and try to automate something or learn something. we are supposed to then go home
01:30 < millendra> ive never had to bother with any of that thankfully
01:30 < enix> I used to get consistent 10-12 hour days, in addition to a bank of extras I could use to pad out the quiet days. I had the best KPIs in the company, made the most in billable hours per day and became the most requested, all because I had to meet that 8 hours/day with 80% billable requirement for my contract :(
01:30 < misspwn_> maybe that's why i'm getting burned out? i wanted to do something in powershell and i'm learning powershell but i don't have time at work to try to do that when i've got that clock tickin
01:30 < enix> Yeah that's fucked and it's why I left
01:31 < enix> I wanted to automate our customer roll out and standardize our offerings so that all our customers were linked to a central AD
01:31 < millendra> i feel like being more efficient in powershell would actually work against you in regards to billables
01:31 < enix> ADaaS I called it
01:31 < millendra> AD is already a service haha
01:31 < misspwn_> millendra, maybe? but somethings kinda require it. like i was trying to find a better way to pull info on what services use domain admin when i needed to reset that password
01:32 < misspwn_> so fine they were rushing me i reset the password and was like YOLO
01:32 < millendra> well you shouldnt do that anyway :)
01:32 < enix> I worked out that because we controlled ALL the IT for our customers, we could charge for routers which had VPN support, link all our customers back to base, run their AD from there, then we could monitor all their machines and run scripts from headoffice which did things like restoring lost files and fixing broken stuff that was frequent.
01:32 <+CheckYourSix> misspwn_: You need to GTFO. I would never work for a company like that
01:32 < enix> I started documenting frequently recurring issues, started writing scripts for them, etc.
01:32 < misspwn_> needed to reset domain password because it was so simple and not secure so i needed to generate something more secure
01:33 < enix> But I could never get it implemented because of how MSPs are.. even with how good our MD was.
01:33 < enix> misspwn_: dinopass.com
01:33 < enix> Anywho I have to go document my infrastructure
01:33 < enix> which is... MINE :D
01:33  * enix loves his job
01:34 < millendra> how long does it take you to get to work though?
01:34 < millendra> that zoo is miles from anything
01:34 < enix> millendra: 15 minutes by bicycle
01:34 < millendra> oh wow
01:34 < enix> 5-7 minutes by car but i've lost my license
01:34 < misspwn_> CheckYourSix, a managed service provider? i mean they aren't all terrible, mine isn't terrible it's just time is literal money so while yo uget to touch so much you aren't mastering a whole lot. at my preivous job i was internal but overworked so i also did not have a chance. plus side i live 4 miles from work and dont hit rush hour
01:35 < enix> millendra: where we're looking at buying is a new development which is a 15-20 minute drive down a highway lol 110km/h most of hte way
01:35 < enix> Everything up here is 20 minute drive away thanks to sunshine motorway
01:35 < millendra> its a nice drive too
01:35 < millendra> lots of forest
01:35 < misspwn_> i don't know if i could get paid more anywhere else. they actually pay me okay
01:35 < enix> millendra: most of steve irwin way is like 100kmh or 80kmh and there's never traffic. It's a beautiful ride/drive through a pine forest, so everything smells so good out here
01:35 <+CheckYourSix> misspwn_: Just the "go home if you have no work to do" type of company. Fuck that
01:36 < enix> Even the koala poo is nice because it's just eucalyptus
01:36 < misspwn_> CheckYourSix, yeah i don't like having to use PTO to make up those hours
01:36 < millendra> lol
01:36 < misspwn_> so sometimes i just say fuck it, don't use my PTO
01:36 < enix> lol legit you can smell it in the morning and you're like 'i'm not actually offended by this'
01:37 < misspwn_> be nice to get 50k/year
01:37 < misspwn_> i'm kinda close to that kinda
01:37 < enix> misspwn_: that's nothing...
01:37 < millendra> 50?
01:37 < DLSteve> depends on the city
01:37 < enix> DLSteve: Not at all
01:37 < enix> Average pay here would probably be around the 60k mark and i'm on more than that
01:38 < enix> I honestly believe these days you need $1000/week minimum to live a good life but that you shouldn't work TOO hard for that money
01:38 < DLSteve> enix, 50k was livable in the South East US where I'm from. Here in Seattle it's way below the median salary.
01:39 < enix> IT get's absolutely abused for 40-50k and it's fucking digusting because you spend all day putting up with peoples shit, and get no time or extra money for living your own life
01:39 < enix> Other than maybe medical, I've never really heard of 'burnout' outside of IT
01:39 <+CheckYourSix> enix: That's because people accept those jobs and do the work at that pay rate. If people stopped accepting shitty offers, the salaries would go up
01:40 < millendra> Finance people get burnout
01:40 < millendra> anything high pressure can
01:41 < DLSteve> Honestly my company has it's faults but I do like that when I walk out the door my day is over, that and I rarely work over 40hrs a week.
01:41 <+CheckYourSix> DLSteve: That's what I need. No on call, no worries, nothing.
01:42 <+CheckYourSix> Right now, I worry about all random shit and can't enjoy time off because of it
01:42 < enix> CheckYourSix: 100%. I interviewed at this place once and the MD called me to decline my application, but the two of us got along and had a good chat before, so I told him that he'll get wwhet~.~.
01:42 < DLSteve> I'm technically considered a "dev" so no on call for me even though I do a lot of the ops stuff lol.
01:43 < DLSteve> I'll still get called in if something really gnarly happened.
01:43 < DLSteve> but that has only happened once so far.
01:44 <+CheckYourSix> Some days, I wonder if it would be worth becoming a dev. Other days, I'm like fuck that idea
01:44 < DLSteve> I like it, I basically work on automation tooling so it's a nice mix of both.
01:45 < DLSteve> I still get to make fun of all the other devs who can barely turn on their computers.
01:45 <+CheckYourSix> I think I would enjoy it if I was working on AI or automation stuff. Not just random crap
01:46 < DLSteve> Oh no, if you are one of those devs who just gets handed a spec and has to implement it it's miserable. I like doing all the design and implementation work.
01:50 < misspwn_> i'm in st louis area so it's doable
01:53 <+DrGibby|> https://lmgsecurity.com/exposing-the-secret-office-365-forensics-tool/
01:54 < millendra> domain migrations are fun
01:55 < blinkingprompt> rofl
01:55 < blinkingprompt> my friend watching ssh auth logs
01:55 < blinkingprompt> watch -n1 ssh cykblat@server
01:59 < enix> l
02:00 < enix> awesome... internets back
02:00 < enix> Fucking HP Procurves power cycle on a voltage drop
02:00 < Nightcinder> lol
02:00 < darkscrypt> that sounds like a design flaw
02:00 < enix> massive
02:00 < millendra> UPS?
02:01 < enix> Yeah but the UPS power fluctuates apparently
02:01 < genr8_> reky
02:01 < corn266> enix get a regulator on that bitch
02:01 < enix> I was just thinking that
02:01 < enix> I would think UPS would keep voltage consistent though
02:02 <@JollyRgrs> enix: AVR is a must
02:02 < corn266> we had to get one at the office cause our wiring is from the 1950s
02:02 < corn266> JollyRgrs op me so i can +v layer-eight
02:02 < Holo> Stop getting crappy UPS systems and get one with voltage filtering
02:02 < corn266> "but i heard triplite was the best" -no one ever
02:02 < Nightcinder> any rack mounted one should be always online
02:02 < Nightcinder> we have 2 tripplites and 2 apc units
02:03 <@JollyRgrs> corn266: lol
02:03 < Nightcinder> no issues with either
02:03 < Holo> My home UPS system is all ways active and filtering out the power
02:03 < enix> Holo: it's now on my list
02:03 < corn266> i'd rather be safe that go with seagate Nightcinder
02:03 < corn266> s/that/than
02:03 < Nightcinder> ?
02:03 < Nightcinder> seagate's only had one bad drive really
02:03 < Holo> Cyber power is decent
02:03 < Nightcinder> my personal UPS is a cyberpower
02:03 < Holo> Haven’t had any issues with them for home use
02:04 < Nightcinder> 1350PFCLCD
02:04 < Holo> I spent like $120 on it
02:04 <+CheckYourSix> I have the 1500PFCLCD attached to my FreeNAS box.
02:04 < Nightcinder> mine was on sale
02:04 < Nightcinder> i wish i had gotten the 1500 but the 1500 wasn't on sale while the 1350 was
02:04 < Holo> I have the 750
02:05 < Holo> I need to buy another for my tv
02:05 < Nightcinder> i paid $130 for the 1350
02:05 < Nightcinder> lightning deal
02:05 <+CheckYourSix> Nice!
02:05 < Nightcinder> i have one behind my console
02:05 < Holo> Very nice
02:05 < Nightcinder> it's some random APC unit
02:05 < Nightcinder> 1000 it hink
02:05 < Nightcinder> holy fuck this keyboard
02:05 < Nightcinder> i left my good kb at work and i'm forced to use this crappy mx red corsair
02:06 < Holo> I got that pure stine crap because Apple -.-
02:06 <+CheckYourSix> I have a couple UPSs. Just ordered the APC SUA1500RM2U
02:06 < Holo> Drove up the costs
02:06 < Nightcinder> i should get a small one for behind the TV
02:06 < Nightcinder> and move the APC to the closet
02:06 < Nightcinder> for the networking gear
02:06 < millendra> enix is the mains voltage dropping as well or just the UPS?
02:06 < Holo> You should
02:06 < enix> mains
02:06 < Nightcinder> my home server is off rn though so nbd
02:07 < Nightcinder> the router/switch are on the cyberpower
02:07 < Holo> Home power is just too shitty here
02:07 < millendra> sounds like your UPS is a POS
02:07 < Nightcinder> if i decide to turn the r710 back on i'll move the router and switch back to the closet
02:07 <+CheckYourSix> When I have my own house, I'll buy a nice online, double conversion extended run UPS for the network hardware.
02:07 < corn266> and route ethernet throughout the house
02:07 < Holo> Run fiber :p
02:08 < Nightcinder>  the only networking hardware i have is an edgerouter 4 and a old netgear switch
02:08 <+CheckYourSix> Fiber all the things
02:08 < Nightcinder> i have an ethernet drop
02:08 < corn266> "Yes i installed glass in all the walls so good luck demolishing this place"
02:08 < Nightcinder> from my bedroom closet to the living room
02:09 < Nightcinder> bedroom closet is where the fiber comesi n
02:09 < enix> millendra: it really really is
02:09 < Nightcinder> i might turn the r710 back on actually
02:09 < enix> I think they picked it though because the old IT preferred building his own stuff. So he got one that he could change the batteries on
02:09 < Nightcinder> it doesn't seem to be what was causing my high electric bills
02:09 < Nightcinder> enix: ugh i had to get rid of so many whiteboxes
02:10 < Nightcinder> and can't you change the batteries on like every UPS?
02:10 < Nightcinder> that's kind of a normal thing.
02:10 < enix> no idea haven't really had a UPS long enough to find out
02:10 < Holo> You can
02:10 < enix> Mostly we just bought new units when the time came anyway because we had upgrades etc.
02:10 <+CheckYourSix> Nightcinder: My R710 is ~$15/month
02:10 < Holo> I rather spend $40 on a new battery vs $120
02:11 < Nightcinder> CheckYourSix: wow
02:11 < Nightcinder> that's a lot
02:11 <+CheckYourSix> Not really...
02:11 < Holo> Vs my shit? It’s a lot :p
02:12 <+CheckYourSix> What do you pay for electric? Or do you have all lower power shit
02:12 < Nightcinder> hold
02:12 < Nightcinder> in a smite match
02:12 <+CheckYourSix> Holo: Or do you run like nothing at home?
02:13 < Holo> All low power shit
02:13 < xamithan> Just grab a power cord from the neighborhing house
02:13 < Holo> Lol
02:13 <+CheckYourSix> Low power shit = $$$$
02:13 < Nightcinder> i'll show you my last bill
02:13 < Nightcinder> once i get out of this match
02:13 < xamithan> low power doesn't have to cost a lot,  unless you also want it small like a NUC
02:14 < Nightcinder> i would love a NUC
02:14 <+CheckYourSix> xamithan: Like what
02:14  * catbeard nucs Nightcinder
02:14 < Holo> The NUCs we have at work
02:14 < xamithan> Like a custom built itx
02:14 < Holo> Fucking i7, 4GB of ram and 1TB drive
02:14 < Holo> Like wtf
02:15 <+CheckYourSix> xamithan: They get expensive though
02:15 < xamithan> If you want it new?  Maybe
02:15 < xamithan> If you buy used stuff on ebay, not so much
02:15 <+CheckYourSix> Holo: Retarded...
02:15 <+CheckYourSix> xamithan: Any particular models/examples?
02:16 < Holo> CheckYourSix: best tv news computers
02:16 < Holo> :p
02:16 < xamithan> Not off hand no.  I've looked into it before but I don't have a NAS or anything so it'd be a waste
02:16 <+CheckYourSix> My NAS idles nicely
02:16 <+CheckYourSix> Between 63-72W
02:17 < xamithan> I want to build a mini itx NAS|Server though.  A nice board will be the biggest cost aside from the drives.
02:18 < enix> omg i want a nuc so badly
02:19 < enix> can't justify paying so much for so little a device though... is that weird?
02:19 < enix> Tempted to get that gaming nuc with integrated cpu/gpu thing, but it's $1300 here and I could get a really good desktop for that
02:20 < xamithan> I got this customer that has like 20 NUCs in a rack not even being used
02:20 < enix> ...why
02:20 < xamithan> Got them for a project test and decided to go with a different project
02:22 < Holo> Lol
02:22 < xamithan> They also got like 80 cable boxes they pay monthly for not being used so I don't think they care
02:23 < enix> mate hook a brother up
02:25 < admiralspark> hey Heresiarch
02:25 < admiralspark> oh
02:25 < admiralspark> he's gond
02:25 < admiralspark> s/gond/gone
02:25 < xamithan> I'd hook myself up first
02:26 < xamithan> They been sitting here a few years though,  probably old gen stuff you can get used for cheap anyway
02:29 < Nightcinder> CheckYourSix: 716 kwh
02:29 < Nightcinder> $96.96
02:43 <+CheckYourSix> Just a little more than I pay
02:52 < Nightcinder> 5.78c per kwh
02:52 < Nightcinder> CheckYourSix: i have a pair of x5065's or whatever the top is
02:52 < admiralspark> Jesus
02:52 < admiralspark> we're just over 21c/kwh
02:53 < monoxane> you guys have fun with that
02:53  * monoxane cries over 39c/kwh
02:53 < admiralspark> monoxane: where the hell are you?
02:53 < admiralspark> an island?
02:53 < monoxane> technically yes
02:53 < monoxane> australia
02:53 < admiralspark> holy shit, why is your power so expensive
02:53 < monoxane> dunno
02:54 < admiralspark> oh wait
02:54 < monoxane> we have fucktons of solar, wind and hydro
02:54 < admiralspark> isnt your dollar way off of ours
02:54 < monoxane> eh not really
02:54 < monoxane> 0.7usd to 1aud
02:54 < admiralspark> that'd be a 30% difference :P
02:55 < admiralspark> uhm what
02:55 < monoxane> what
02:55 < corn266> 0I NEED AN ADULT
02:55 < monoxane> the fuck
02:55 < admiralspark> oi cryptic1
02:55 < monoxane> did comcast come back online xD
02:55 < admiralspark> hah...
02:57 < misspwn_> holy shit the electric bill this month
02:58 < misspwn_> $342 dollars
02:58 < xamithan> That is a terrible botnet using all the same IP
02:58 < monoxane> ^
03:00 < misspwn_> electric bill last month was $150 so that's practically double. time to move to the arctic
03:01 < corn266> misspwn_ mine went from $68 to $98 and I freaked out. couldn't imagine a 2x increase
03:02 < admiralspark> misspwn_: grow lights man, they use a lot of juice
03:02 < corn266> save money by moving to a legal state and using the sun
03:02 <@cryptic1> evening
03:03 < corn266> cryptic1 can you ban IP 208.93.66.204 as well as 2001:1838:2002:9486:250:56ff:fe8d:d77e
03:05 <+CheckYourSix> JollyRgrs: killdash9: ^^
03:06 <@JollyRgrs> CheckYourSix: y?
03:06 <@JollyRgrs> corn266: who's IP is that?
03:06 < corn266> https://imgur.com/4LkYv1H
03:06 <+CheckYourSix> JollyRgrs: Look above. Join/quit
03:07 <@JollyRgrs> i don't see that shit
03:07 <@JollyRgrs> unless they be talkin, they don't show for me
03:07 <@cryptic1> why?
03:07 <@JollyRgrs> #notmyfault
03:07 < corn266> check my screenshot
03:07 <@JollyRgrs> #GetABetterIRCClient
03:07 < corn266> :(
03:07 < enix> Would it be bad practice to put services specific to a hostgroup into that hostgroups config file in nagios
03:08 < enix> DOes it care if the switches hostgroup has a ping service as well as the linux-servers
03:08 <@JollyRgrs> corn266: did it stop?
03:08 <@cryptic1> corn266, that shit was already klined
03:08 < corn266> Klined?
03:08 <@cryptic1> server bant
03:08 <@JollyRgrs> that's what your screenshot shows
03:08 < corn266> also yea it was just the initial burst
03:08 <@cryptic1> by freenode staff
03:08 < corn266> oh well nevermind then
03:08 <@JollyRgrs> i fixed it, you're welcome
03:09 < corn266> Thanks JollyRgrs you're so much more helpful than cryptic1 can I get op now
03:09 <@cryptic1> cloning like that is very very old school and easily detected by services
03:09 <@JollyRgrs> NO!
03:09 <@JollyRgrs> unless you can answer me this one thing
03:09 < misspwn_> admiralspark, hahahaha, nah man the AC has just been going non stop. today we hit 107
03:09 <@JollyRgrs> if you can, i will give you +v with a small hope of even op
03:09 < corn266> 42
03:09 <@cryptic1> i just got out of my pool so nice and cool in this hot weather
03:10 <+CheckYourSix> I wish I had a pool
03:10 <@JollyRgrs> allied telesis AT-GS950/24 (NOT the "eco" version). Running AT-S79 software
03:10 <@JollyRgrs> i need to reset to factory defaults (i don't have user/pass)
03:10 < enix> push the little pin in the back with a staple
03:10 <@JollyRgrs> hitting "S" repeatedly from console during start didn't work, and i don't get a screen i can hit "Y", then "N" then Ctrl+D to access any menus
03:10 <@JollyRgrs> enix: no pin in back
03:11 <@JollyRgrs> no jumper on board
03:11 <@JollyRgrs> no button on case
03:11 < enix> You're just not looking hard enough
03:11 <@JollyRgrs> try me
03:11 <@JollyRgrs> i've got a PhD in googleology
03:12 <@JollyRgrs> and i've been looking on/off for 2 weeks+
03:12 < enix> is it cli or what
03:13 < corn266> weird, only info I've found online is to use a hammer
03:13 < enix> Their manual is likely to get someones dick stuck in a fan
03:13 < corn266> enix ++
03:14 < corn266> this thing is worse than aids
03:14 < enix> break off it's flash storage and solder a new one on
03:14 < enix> The eco friendly version I assume uses the same motherboard right?
03:14 < enix> A reset switch is basic as fuck. find the pin out for it and bridge the connectors
03:15 < genr8_> screwdriver trick
03:15 < corn266> https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?t=46654
03:15 < enix> .bofh
03:15 < enix> `bofh
03:15 < enix> For fucks sake cryptic1
03:15 < corn266> cryptic1 bant layer-eight and tried to blame me
03:16 < enix> JollyRgrs: I would like to report OP abuse towards a member of the Korvax
03:16 < enix> Or possible a traveller with their body transplanted.
03:16 < enix> It's indetermined.
03:16 < enix> Speaking of which... I should name my but -null- lol
03:16 < enix> s/but/bot
03:16 < corn266> sounds like you got that hank hill but
03:16 < enix> corn266: That link describes what un-JollyRgrs is doing atm
03:17 < corn266> the "connect to the router using a RS-232 cable..." instructions?
03:17 <@JollyRgrs> already did the ars link... that doesn't work for my box
03:17 < corn266> you tried turning it off and on again?
03:17 <@JollyRgrs> i get no prompt where i can type/delete anything except logon user name and password
03:18 <@JollyRgrs> enix: diff board, there is no two pins on the board i can jump to reset
03:18 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9B-33-379-052
03:18 <@JollyRgrs> that's the non-eco version that i have
03:18 < corn266> THERE'S A NEWEGG BUSINESS??
03:19 <@JollyRgrs> i guess?
03:19 <@JollyRgrs> it came up via google
03:19 <@JollyRgrs> move over CDW?
03:19 < corn266> I guess no +v for me :(
03:20 < corn266> can we at least get a +v for layer-eight?
03:21 < enix> JollyRgrs: does this help? https://imgur.com/gallery/KGXt0
03:22 <@JollyRgrs> directions unclear, kicking enix
03:22 < enix> lol
03:22 <@JollyRgrs> /kick enix #whaddadouche
03:22 <@JollyRgrs> :P
03:22 < corn266> i think those pictures are trying to say something
03:22 < enix> Man I hate getting kicked. I haven't got my irssi config setup so I have to manually fucking connect every time lol
03:23 < corn266> like install a certain operating system... like windows vista but worse
03:23 < catbeard> *gasp* Windows 8
03:23  * enix is a Gentoo avocate 
03:23 < enix> advocate?
03:23 < enix> Is that what I meant?
03:23 < enix> I dont know because layer-eight is broken.
03:23 < catbeard> gentoo avocado
03:23 < corn266> s/avocate/avocado
03:24 < enix> I'd love to create an OS called AvocadOS
03:24 < enix> It'd look great on the front end, give you everything you need, and have a rock-solid setup at the core
03:24  * enix writes that down with his hammer-pen
03:24 < corn266> s/pen/peen
03:25 < enix> Oh I got a hammer pen. It's a pen shaped like a hammer. I told the girl at the shop I want it because then I could 'nail it every time', and it was literally the funniest thing she'd ever heard.
03:26 < corn266> she wanted the peener
03:26 <@JollyRgrs> enix: when you work at a boring job or around boring ppl, you can get some hefty laughs out of girls when you say the dumbest things
03:28 < enix> Well she worked at Typo. I literally could have told her that her hair was brown and she would have laughed
03:28 < corn266> sounds like her birth was a typo
03:28 < enix> But at least now I can arouse a giggle when I go to write something down and proclaim "IT'S HAMMER TIME" when I pull my pen out
03:28 <@JollyRgrs> enix: hey! that's my line in the bedroom
03:29 <@JollyRgrs> when i pull my pen out
03:29 < enix> JollyRgrs: does she then say "Cant touch this"
03:29 <@JollyRgrs> did your mother tell you that story?
03:29 < enix> Nah it was my father
03:29 < enix> wait what
03:30 < corn266> https://youtu.be/rMe1N0XOYhc?t=61
03:31 <@JollyRgrs> I FUCKIN GOT IN!
03:31 < enix> Ha that's what he said
03:31 < corn266> gz?
03:31 <@JollyRgrs> Ctrl+C
03:31 < Casteil> mmm... what a day
03:32 < Casteil> finished my flooring install, got all the shit moved back in this room/office, threw a load of laundry in, then went for a swim to cool off a bit
03:33 < corn266> how all y'all fuckers havin pools n shit
03:33 < Casteil> house I bought had one :P
03:34 < rpifan> man doing poppers
03:34 < Casteil> it's old too, buuuut.. it's still nice to have :D https://i.imgur.com/uU9Ea5t.png
03:34 < rpifan> can be a kinda scary
03:34 < rpifan> u cant breathe for a while
03:34 < rpifan> then it hits u
03:34 < Casteil> (took that pic back in like may before all the leaves were in)
03:34 < corn266> >does poppers
03:34 < corn266> >joins an irc chat
03:34 < rpifan> u done poppers before
03:35 < rpifan> nah that was a few minutes ago when i was doing the beautiful twink boy
03:35 < corn266> not that i'm aware of
03:35 < xamithan> poopers?
03:36 < corn266> sharpies
03:36 < xamithan> Oh poppers not poopers
03:36 < xamithan> Is that the same thing as whip its ?
03:37 < corn266> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppers
03:37 < rpifan> different
03:37 < rpifan> but u inhale them anyway
03:37 < enix> poppers are pingers arent they
03:37 < enix> oh
03:37 < enix> nvm
03:37 < rpifan> i dont like them cause they make me kinda sick
03:37 < rpifan> but i guess it depends on the brand
03:38 < rpifan> there all slightyl different chems
03:38 < corn266> ooooh so that's what the dying chick in fight club is referencing when she says she has amyl nitrites
03:38 < rpifan> oh yea those are those
03:38 < rpifan> they call them vcr head cleaners
03:38 < rpifan> and such
03:38 < rpifan> at ur local sex shop
03:39 < rpifan> they also have spray now but that is literally just like huffing paint
03:39 < xamithan> I have a local sex shop ?
03:39 < rpifan> there super nasty
03:39 < rpifan> yes u do
03:39 < rpifan>  everyone has one
03:39 < xamithan> I don't think so
03:40 < corn266> nah my local sex shop doesn't even have anal safe anal beads they like fucking PvC or some shit and less that 0.5" in diameter
03:40 <@JollyRgrs> corn266: you mean mardi gras beads?
03:40 < corn266> basically
03:40 < corn266> just trying to give naive couples some type of infection
03:41 < rpifan> yes u do
03:41 < rpifan> literally
03:41 < rpifan> the most red neck states have them
03:41 < rpifan> on the highway usually
03:41 < xamithan> My city has a highway ?
03:41 <@JollyRgrs> to hell
03:42  * JollyRgrs plays ACDC
03:42 < xamithan> I don't think you know how rural some places are,  lol
03:42 < corn266> xamithan ++
03:42 < abakedapplepie> fucking pubg
03:42 < Virtual-Potato> My city has a road?
03:42 < corn266> i ain't driving 45 minutes to inhale some vcr head cleaner
03:42 < abakedapplepie> is breaking my audio driver or something
03:42 < abakedapplepie> what the fuck
03:42 < xamithan> Sure,  that gravel thing
03:42 < xamithan> Next to the only gas station in town
03:43 < corn266> next to the only stop light in town
03:43 < Virtual-Potato> nah I have to hike through 20 miles of unmaintained trail before I get to the dirt road
03:43 < rpifan> xamithan, where do u liv elol
03:43 < xamithan> Stop light?  Its a yellow flashy one one side and red flashy on the other
03:43 < corn266> oh fuck are we from the same place?
03:43 < Virtual-Potato> stop light? You mean a four way intersection with a stop sign that's got bullet holes in it?
03:44 < xamithan> I live beside a big city,  but my local city doesn't have jack
03:44 < corn266> does it at least have a whataburger?
03:44 < Virtual-Potato> xamithan, but do they have jill?
03:45 < xamithan> No it has a pizza hut kfc and taco bell
03:45 < xamithan> All in one building
03:45 < Virtual-Potato> at least it has a taco bell
03:45 < corn266> combination pizza hut and taco bell?
03:45 < corn266> awww yiss
03:45 < Virtual-Potato> ask them to make you a chicken taco pizza
03:45 < corn266> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ8ViYIeH04
03:46 < xamithan> I was picking up some burritos one night and got some chicken and pizza for free they were going to throw it out
03:47 < enix> JollyRgrs: YEAH ACCA DACCA
03:47 < enix> DA NANA NA NA NA NANA
03:50 <@JollyRgrs> oh my...
03:50 <@JollyRgrs> random radio station on google music...
03:50 <@JollyRgrs> starts off with MC Hammer - Pumps and a Bump
03:51 < xamithan> I was groovin it up to some scorptions yesterday
03:51 <@JollyRgrs> i forgot completely about that song
03:51 < misspwn_> hey it's the season of "is it fireworks or is it gunshots"
03:51 < abakedapplepie> JollyRgrs: they know you so well
03:51 <@JollyRgrs> scorptions, eh?
03:51 < xamithan> *scorpions~
03:51 <@JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: they do
03:51 < corn266> misspwn_ "we know they ain't fireworks it's december 21st"
03:51 <@JollyRgrs> pumps and a bump
03:51 <@JollyRgrs> pumps and a bump
03:51 < misspwn_> haha
03:51 <@JollyRgrs> gimme a girl with pumps and a bump
03:51 < abakedapplepie> a belly bump
03:52 < abakedapplepie> thatsmyfetish.jpg
03:52 < corn266> at least link that shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk1YtbkZTqc
03:52 < misspwn_> just hang out at motherhood maternity
03:52 < xamithan> Heard a few good oes like no on like you.  Then it had to put on rock you like a hurricane,  ugh >.<
03:52 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNz225f1230
03:52 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk1YtbkZTqc
03:52 <@JollyRgrs> take your pick
03:54 <@JollyRgrs> corn266: you've never seen so much hammer in a banana hammock
03:54 < corn266> yes
03:55 < misspwn_> was it nice?
03:56 < corn266> yea the outline was provocative
03:57 <@JollyRgrs> https://youtu.be/FGQe-EWgH44?t=64
03:59 < corn266> Lamborghini Mercy JollyRgrs he so thirsty
03:59 <@JollyRgrs> lol
04:05 <@JollyRgrs> this one is gold: https://youtu.be/FGQe-EWgH44?t=473
04:05 < corn266> "Jim Carrey to play 'Sonic the Hedgehog' Villain Robotnik
04:05 <@JollyRgrs> ...
04:05 < corn266> "what even is this movie?" ""fuck it why not""
04:12 < rpifan> why
04:12 < rpifan> is there a movie
04:12 < rpifan> sigh
04:14  * rpifan stares at quarter empty bottle of rum and bottle of coke zero
04:14 < rpifan> shall i put them inside me
04:14 < rpifan> hmm
04:14 < corn266> do a butt chug
04:15 < corn266> also use a straw cause you can't just put a bottle in your ass and expect the liquid to go normally
04:15 < rpifan> i dont do that
04:16 < rpifan> i dont bottom much
04:16 < rpifan> takes special skills
04:16 < corn266> you took poppers which are ment to relax the anus but you don't bottom?
04:16 < rpifan> i dont
04:16 < rpifan> not this time
04:16 < rpifan> it can help the top
04:16 < rpifan> like i said depending on the brand
04:16 < rpifan> it makes u cum harder and faster
04:17 <@JollyRgrs> that's enough
04:17 <@JollyRgrs> take that to another chan/PM pls
04:17 < corn266> wtf
04:17 < rpifan> u asked
04:18 < corn266> kk JollyRgrs
04:23 < rpifan> i am simplier the provider of info
04:23 < corn266> that's great and all but this is a christian minecraft server, sir
04:24 < rpifan> lol
04:24 < rpifan> do u have a mc server
04:24 < corn266> wtf
04:24 < corn266> no
04:24 < corn266> though I do have a free t1.micro ...
04:25 < rpifan> microdick
04:25 < corn266> hey it may be a needle dick but i fuck like a sewing machine
04:25 < rpifan> lol
04:33 < darkscrypt> i don't know if i should be proud of myself, or disappointed... but...
04:33 < darkscrypt> i just ate 9 pancakes in about 3 minutes
04:34 < ravioli> darkscrypt++
04:34 < ravioli> darkscrypt: i want your life.
04:35 < darkscrypt> these are the frozen pancakes you can buy in the frozen section of a grocery store
04:35 < darkscrypt> that I actually had delivered via instacart
04:35 < ravioli> like, eggo?
04:35 < darkscrypt> nope just pancakes
04:36 < darkscrypt> they have them. most people prolly see them and think... nah. i'm good
04:36 < ravioli> darkscrypt: #donger
04:36 < rpifan> that quesadilla was good
04:36 < rpifan> but ive got no more cheese
04:37 < corn266> LPT use actual cash and claim it's cheddar
04:38 < rpifan> ?
04:38 < darkscrypt> when they said throwing money at a problem can solve anything, they didn't mean it literally
04:39 < rpifan> also no cash
04:39 < rpifan> and im not eating my debit card
04:40 < ravioli> darkscrypt: #donger
04:41 < darkscrypt> i know that's a meme but i don't know what it means
04:42 < ravioli> darkscrypt: it's a channel
04:42 < ravioli> on freenode
04:42 < ravioli> and also an official freenode open source project
04:42 < ravioli> hence my cloak
04:44 < rpifan> broken
04:44 < ravioli> rpifan: aw
04:44 < ravioli> try once more. with me.
04:45 < rpifan> nop
04:45 < ravioli> :(
04:54 < aName> I can't mix SAS and SATA on the perc 6, can I.
04:55 < Nightcinder> i think you can
04:55 < Nightcinder> but i never tried
04:55 < aName> I guess I can stuff it in where the failed drive was and find out
04:55 < monoxane> aName do you have one on hand to test?
04:55 < aName> I do
04:55 < monoxane> cos ive got an r710 here i can mess with not in prod
04:55 < ravioli> hi monoxane
04:56 < monoxane> hi pasta le resistance
04:56 < ravioli> how's the weather down there?
04:56 < ravioli> how cold does it get?
04:56 < monoxane> fucking cold
04:57 < monoxane> its actually only 10c
04:57 < ravioli> is "cold" 35ºc to you?
04:57 < monoxane> but raining and 89% RH
04:57 < ravioli> ah. nice.
04:57 < monoxane> so it feels a lot worse
04:57 < ravioli> monoxane: it gets to -30ºc here in winter
04:57 < ravioli> so don't feel too bad
04:57 < ravioli> :p
04:57 < monoxane> it hits -5 sometimes
04:58 < monoxane> -5 is preferable to 10 though cos at negatives it cant be humid and cold
04:58 < ravioli> gotta take the shrimp off the barby at that point i suspect
04:59 < enix> the shrimps come off the barbie when they're done!
04:59 < monoxane> nobody i know has ever cooked shrimp on the barbie...
04:59 < ravioli> i'd love to visit down under at some point. but it's so fucking expensive to get down there.
04:59 < aName> What does it mean when both the orange and green light blink? That the controller is rebuilding the array to that disk?
05:00 < monoxane> aName probs
05:00 < aName> Well, cool
05:00 < monoxane> install openmanage on it and itll tell you more details
05:00 < enix> monoxane: yeah normally they're just precooked and you peel the buggers. but king prawns go well on the bbq if you buy them raw and marinate them in sweet chilli sauce
05:00 < monoxane> use docker if you dont like to fuck up your shit with java or whatever it uses
05:00 < monoxane> enix true
05:00 < aName> monoxane: I bought the r710 on fleabay but the disks were retired at work
05:01 < aName> Got a hypervisor on it
05:01 < aName> Got busy
05:01 < aName> disk failure
05:01 < aName> didn't even use the damn thing yet
05:01 < monoxane> ah okay i have no idea how to get openmanage on a hypervisor
05:02 < monoxane> anyone got any idea for a cheap 10 gig switch with ~16 ports?
05:02 < monoxane> cheap being preferably under $500
05:02 < monoxane> used is fine
05:02 <@cryptic1> where is DrGibby| ?
05:02 < rpifan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMFsCqrJqwI
05:02 < aName> Not offhand, but I bet it's made by Ubiquiti lol
05:02 <+DrGibby|> hi cryptic1
05:02 < rpifan> the only reason i watch these things is to see how old they go
05:02 < ravioli> DrGibby| sux
05:02 <+DrGibby|> in livepd
05:02 < rpifan> got if any of them looks good
05:02 < ravioli> !dong
05:02 < dongerdong> ヽ( ͡° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °)ﾉヽ( ͡° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °)ﾉヽ( ͡° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °)ﾉヽ( ͡° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °)ﾉ YOU CAME TO THE WRONG GENJAHOOD ヽ( ͡° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °)ﾉヽ( ͡° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °)ﾉヽ( ͡° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °)ﾉヽ( ͡° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °)ﾉ
05:03 < aName> monoxane: fiber or copper?
05:03 < monoxane> aName either
05:03 < aName> https://store.ubnt.com/collections/routing-switching/products/unifi-switch-16-xg 600 new
05:03 < aName> So maybe less used?
05:03 < monoxane> preferably fiber though cos the desktops are over 100m away from the core
05:03 < monoxane> oh neat
05:03 < rpifan> https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_17760284.html
05:04 < aName> monoxane: I LOVE our Ubiquiti APs
05:04 < aName> monoxane: They're soooooooo good, especially for what they cost
05:04 < monoxane> i just bought 5 Aerohive APs cos they were $200 shipped for the lot, i would have gone UBNT if they were slightly cheaper
05:05 < monoxane> literally no IT budget is fun
05:05 < aName> monoxane: Damn, even my budget is bigger than that lol
05:05 < aName> monoxane: You're supposed to show them the quote from juniper first
05:05 < aName> =p
05:05 < monoxane> oh im doing that
05:05 < aName> ouch
05:05 < monoxane> im also talking with Extreme Networks over small business discounts
05:06 < monoxane> because i have EN in my home lab and love it
05:07 < monoxane> it actually makes sense unlike cisco CLI >_>
05:07 < aName> Heh
05:07 < aName> I so rarely configure any network gear
05:07 < monoxane> `set tagged 1` being the worse CLI design choice ever
05:07 < aName> beyond adding users to the VPN
05:07 < aName> Which has way too many steps
05:08 < aName> I need to script it or something
05:08 < monoxane> yea im a 1 man IT department working part time so its fun
05:08 < aName> That can be
05:08 < aName> It's a nice challenge, especially if the bullshit level is low
05:08 < monoxane> the bullshit level is so high
05:08 < aName> I'm just a bit burned out on stupid fucking users right now, I guess
05:08 < monoxane> i have a macintosh iifx i have to deal with
05:08 < aName> Sick of handholding everyone through everything to the point where I'm doing several people's jobs
05:08 < aName> Kind of a bit checked out right now
05:09 < monoxane> everything else is bullshit level low though, just that one mac makes the average really high
05:09 < aName> Naw, I mean the people.
05:09 < monoxane> oh the people are great
05:09 < monoxane> its a media company so people know how to use tech
05:09 < aName> Yeah, a lot of our employees make minimum wage and it shows
05:11 < aName> I just... "Navigate to \\networkshare\yourfolder in your file manager (explorer.exe) and you'll find the document you're looking for" and the next thing I know I'm mapping a drive for them because anything else is too difficult.
05:11 < aName> Or they're telling me Bing doesn't have that file
05:11 < aName> I get that margins are slim and good people are hard to come by, but a basic computer competency exam would do wonders
05:12 < monoxane> i got sick of network shares in windows and just NFS'd everything to look like internal drives
05:12 < monoxane> also has less SMB overhead
05:12 < aName> They work fine
05:12 < monoxane> which helps the 500gb transfers over 1gig eth >_>
05:12 < aName> The people just don't know how to use them
05:12 < aName> monoxane: I'm a bit spoiled in that I'm one of the only users who even knows how to generate that kind of traffic, I suppose.
05:13 < monoxane> oh yea they are fine for laptops and stuff but we have edit bays that deal with terabytes a day of transfers
05:13 < aName> monoxane: But I also know how to do it entirely in the same hypervisor when I can
05:13 < monoxane> so its NFS all the way
05:13 < aName> So it's disk-to-disk not disk-network-disk
05:13 < ronDongler> evening, all
05:13 < aName> hola. que pasa?
05:14 < ronDongler> same circus different clowns
05:16 < monoxane> oh no i just made a terrible mistake
05:17 < monoxane> accidentally dropped half a loaf of turkish bread into my soup :|
05:21 < Nightcinder> nice
05:22 < aName> monoxane: Sounds like you just made dip
05:23 < aName> I need to make some soup
05:23 < aName> I've got a hunk of ham and a bunch of beans
05:23 < aName> I think I have carrots and celery
05:23 < aName> I know I have garlic
05:23 < aName> But I'm also very lazy.
05:23 < Guest33387> does anyone know any good guides for installing and configuring Server 2016?
05:24 < Guest33387> im preping for an interview
05:24 < rpifan> no
05:24 < aName> Guest33387: Use /nick yourNameHere to set your name
05:24 < aName> mikeisme: What are you unclear on?
05:25 < aName> And how in depth are we talking?
05:25 < aName> The basic setup is pretty simple
05:25 < ekaj> so i adopted a bird today
05:25 < aName> ekaj: Oh yeah? What species?
05:25 < mikeisme> I am installing server 2016 on my second PC and im trying to confgure it with AD group policy
05:25 < aName> mikeisme: OK, where are you stuck?
05:26 < mikeisme> im not yet. i just wanted to follow along with a  guide. I kow youtube has a ton. But I would prefrer to read vs watch
05:26 < aName> Amen to that.
05:26 < aName> Video is not a good way for me to learn
05:26 < ekaj> well not adopted, i took it. think it's an american robin
05:26 < aName> It's ... very low bandwidth
05:27 < aName> ekaj: I might not admit to that in public.
05:27 < ekaj> lol it's fine, it would have died
05:27 < aName> Nursing them back to health is usually OK
05:27 < aName> But it is a migratory bird
05:27 < aName> So... careful
05:27 < ekaj> I'll prob release it in a week or two
05:27 < aName> Cool
05:28 < mikeisme> I dont know If i can ad users in active Directory and actually log in with my 1st PC. Im also trying to figure out how to make my PCs talk with the server on my home network
05:28 < rpifan> ah robins
05:28 < rpifan> i had a white child
05:28 < rpifan> id probabyl name him robin
05:28 < mikeisme> I know home windows 10 cant do domain stuff
05:28 < aName> mikeisme: Ah, you'll want to join some clients to your domain first and then add them to groups. Go from there.
05:29 < mikeisme> ok. thank you. im tryo to brush up on server stuff for an interview on monday. I am a level 2 suppert guy now. I have done server stuff in the past, but its been a while.
05:29 < rpifan> has anyone seen the trailer for the grown up christopher robin movie
05:30 < mikeisme> the movie looks intersting.
05:30 < mikeisme> ill watch it once it hits streaming.
05:30 < rpifan> i think its very cute
05:30 < rpifan> im glad there is a movie where an adult can go back to being a child and just play pretend for a while
05:31 < ekaj> mj's life
05:31 < rpifan> us adults and our technology we dont get to pretend very much
05:31 < rpifan> i dont see whats wrong iwth it once in a while
05:31 < mikeisme> thats that what video games are for
05:34 < rpifan> yea but its not as involved, you cant get as creative with it in ur mind
05:34 < rpifan> theres objectives and stuff
05:35 < aName> rpifan: I've spent literally thousands of dollars on computer equipment for the sole purpose of better imagination toys
05:35 < aName> rpifan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TckqNdrdbgk is soooooo cool
05:35 < rpifan> thats cool but its kinda like making a table by hand or using electric tools differnet goals
05:36 < aName> I've used it to mock up furniture before building it lol
05:36 < rpifan> like einsteins thoguht experiments
05:37 < aName> Plus you can do shit like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztsi0CLxmjw
05:38 < rpifan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuIqv6hfZzQ
05:38 < rpifan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgrvAa9ZymE
05:39 < rpifan> the second link is better
05:40 < aName> Sitting here like 'why do I smell matches?'
05:40 <@JollyRgrs> rpifan: btw... thanks but no, i prefer NOT being in gayfan
05:41 < aName> "Oh, right. Celebrate the independence of your nation by destroying a small part of it"
05:42 < rpifan> JollyRgrs, r u scared of ays
05:42 <@JollyRgrs> not scared of ays nor gays
05:42 <@JollyRgrs> but also not a fan
05:42 < rpifan> alas
05:42 < rpifan> ive started to drink
05:43 < aName> rpifan: What's in your glass?
05:43 < rpifan> oh let me use my facncy 4g camera for this
05:44 < rpifan> imgur.com/a/P17b44x
05:45 < rpifan> one sec
05:45 < rpifan> imgur.com/a/P17b44X
05:45 < aName> 404
05:45 < aName> same link
05:45 < rpifan> oh its still uploading
05:45 < rpifan> one sec
05:45 < rpifan> but its capital X
05:48 < aName> I'm so annoyed with international borders right now
05:49 < aName> I can go to the river here, a couple blocks from work, look across it, and the other side, cannabis is legal.
05:49 < aName> It's such bullshit
05:49 < rpifan> https://imgur.com/a/GqNeGXK
05:49 < rpifan> there we go
05:49 < rpifan> that was a lot harder then it needed to be
05:50 < aName> Part of me wants to go walk the foot bridge and be like 'ruin your life' 'nobody cares' .... you know, the stupid tourist dance where you're in one place and then the other?
05:51 < aName> You can pretty much just walk into Canada, but coming back into the US there's a dollar toll for the foot bridge lol
05:52 < rpifan> i really need to get on pain medication
05:52 < aName> https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g154998-d4729227-Reviews-Rainbow_Bridge-Niagara_Falls_Ontario.html#photos;geo=154998&detail=4729227&aggregationId=101 I just hate this so much
05:52 < aName> It makes me sad
05:53 < aName> The view is pretty fantastic though
05:53 < enix> what makes you sad
05:54 < rpifan> no one comments on me instagraming my despair
05:54 < rpifan> but i feel tipsy, stupid cheap liquor
05:54 < rpifan> ive had an 1/8 of a shot
05:57 < rpifan> anwhy does liquor have calories
05:59 < binaryhermit> 7 calories per gram of ethanol I believe
05:59 < rpifan> awful
06:00 < rpifan> this rum is like drinking gasoline
06:01 < rpifan> man this is a big drink
06:01 < rpifan> i want to finish it before i go out
06:01 < rpifan> wish i had a liquor pouch
06:01 < rpifan> to deliver small doses of liquor
06:02 < rpifan> instead of having to preload
06:08 < rpifan> wkae up ppl
06:08 < AustinS> chug it
06:08 < rpifan> there we go
06:08  * rpifan eats plain tortilla
06:09 < AustinS> cheese and microwave go!
06:09 < AustinS> quick drunk quesadilla!
06:09 < AustinS> i made so many of those after going out all the time in oregon lol
06:09 < rpifan> i have no cheese
06:09 < rpifan> im moving tommorish
06:09 < rpifan> im trying to eat all my food
06:09 <@JollyRgrs> uh...
06:09 < rpifan> but i keep eating out
06:10 < AustinS> oh.  butter and cinnamon/sugar! :p
06:10 <@JollyRgrs> that's a cheesy rollup
06:10 <@JollyRgrs> but not a quesadilla
06:10 < AustinS> oh yea thats right @ moving
06:10 < misspwn_> post food on craigslist
06:10 < CharlesA> free food for all?
06:10 < CharlesA> heh
06:10 < AustinS> JollyRgrs, if you put cheese in between the quesadilla, or fold it in half
06:10 < rpifan> im taking it with me
06:10 < AustinS> nobody said it was gettin rolled up :p
06:10 < rpifan> man 8 years of not drinking makes u a light weight
06:11 < rpifan> also cheap liquor is cheap
06:11 < CharlesA> feel the burn, eh?
06:11 < rpifan> yes
06:11 < rpifan> ive basically poured an entire liter of coke into a bit of rum
06:11 < misspwn_> there is a bottle of limoncello on the counter, but it's for baking
06:11 < CharlesA> damn
06:12 < misspwn_> a liter of coke farva?
06:12 < misspwn_> dat cola
06:12 < CharlesA> litre of cola?
06:12 < CharlesA> or a large farva?
06:12 < rpifan> whats a farva
06:13 < AustinS> brb
06:13 < CharlesA> rpifan, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zgTcrZ5030
06:16 < rpifan> i must be so fucked up already
06:16 < rpifan> that i find that shit funny
06:16 < rpifan> lord
06:17 < CharlesA> Exactly!
06:17 < rpifan> seems like a stoner movie
06:17 < CharlesA> probably.
06:18 < rpifan> yea
06:18 < rpifan> look up stoner movies on google and there it is
06:19 < CharlesA> welp, Pineapple Express is there, so yep.
06:20 < rpifan> i watched that movie
06:20 < rpifan> man i want some weed
06:21 < rpifan> weed is a better high then liquor
06:21 < AustinS> ooh my pineapple shirt got delivered (along with like 6 other packages + my giant TV) the other day, still havent really been home other than to pass out for a couple hours
06:21 < AustinS> but im excited for the pineapple shirt
06:21 < rpifan> y a pineapple shirt
06:22 < CharlesA> I'm currently waiting for Warehouse 13 to show up.
06:22 < CharlesA> Already late. Thanks Amazon.
06:22 < rpifan> thanks r bama
06:22 < AustinS> cause it was obnoxious looking and i wanted it.
06:22 < AustinS> lol
06:23  * rpifan eats last empty tortilla'
06:23 < AustinS> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CT4GKZ4/  :3
06:24 < rpifan> damn sketchy gays
06:25 < AustinS> lmao
06:25 < rpifan> lol
06:25 < rpifan> uxcell
06:25 < rpifan> ive bought stuff from them before
06:25 < rpifan> eelectronic crap
06:25 < rpifan> i need one pf those https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Generator-Starter-Assembly-Stratton/dp/B0764BWY11/ref=sr_1_36?srs=3049510011&ie=UTF8&qid=1530332734&sr=8-36
06:26 < AustinS> lol looking at their store iss just .. the largest collection of random shit
06:27 < rpifan> i need to make sure i can start my lawnmower
06:27 < rpifan> meh im gonna take a few more sips from my drink and just go to the gay club
06:27 < rpifan> later
06:28 < AustinS> good luck :p
06:28 < AustinS> and https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833423176 got a 2nd of these delivered today as a backup so gotta set that up before monday
06:47 < bobdoledoesasys> Evening, folks. Anyone here use AppDynamics and is familiar with their Information Points?
06:52 <@JollyRgrs> sorry, not me
06:54 < bobdoledoesasys> No worries, JollyRgrs
06:56 < ekaj> so I've got a VPS running openvpn.. if I connect my router to that VPS, then connect to that VPS remotely with openVPN, that would be a decent VPN to my homelab?
06:57 < ekaj> I downloaded the openvpn appliance but probably shouldn't have
06:57 <@JollyRgrs> can you not just openvpn to your house?
06:58 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.amazon.com/Cisco-SLM2024-24-Port-Gigabit-Switch/dp/B000UPTCRW this worth picking up for $50 on CL?
06:58 < ekaj> JollyRgrs: no, i'm behind various layers of NAT
06:58 <@JollyRgrs> i honestly jsut want multi-port gigabit (preferably more than 5 or 8 ports)
06:58 <@JollyRgrs> ekaj: oh... then yeah i guess that's your best choice
06:59 < ekaj> I've previously used SSH tunnels but I'd really like to be able to RDP and stuff
06:59 < threwahway> use another vpn technology for the point to point
06:59 <@JollyRgrs> you can rdp off of ssh tunnels
06:59 < threwahway> also that
06:59 < ekaj> What type of other VPN technology?
06:59 <@JollyRgrs> if you have issues, mobaxterm has a STUPID SIMPLE/EASY way to ssh tunnel
06:59 < threwahway> ipsec
07:00 < ekaj> i know my router supports ipsec tunneling
07:00 < geekodour08> When using sendfile directive in ngnix, it said to use SF_NODISKIO, but then I saw this tweet. Is this implemented now? https://twitter.com/normanmaurer/status/585879520122691585 ?
07:00 < threwahway> ipsec between the router and the remote gateway, then you can route from the gateway to your home network
07:00 < threwahway> but you might want to limit the traffic to just what you need
07:00 < geekodour08> I am learning nginx..
07:01 < ekaj> remote gateway as in my VPS?
07:01 < threwahway> yes.
07:20 < enix> I just held a gate open so a wild turkey could come walk into the staff area
07:21 < enix> He has security clearance but still... weird weird moment
07:56 < m4221> ((Anyone here?))
07:59 <@cryptic1> yes
07:59 <@cryptic1> BANT!
07:59 < m4221> cryptic1: hey
08:03 <@cryptic1> hey
08:14 < enix> Someones trying to see if we're running wordpress
08:14 < enix> I feel like i should zline him
08:15 < AustinS> lol
08:15 < AustinS> i had to block a subnet on our network ACL on aws earlier cause they just kept hammering our redirect servers (didnt really do much but just got an alert cause massive increase in connections to load balancer)
08:15 < AustinS> not sure why.. literally all the servers do is match redirects to custom rules, or 301 to main domain (we have a shitton of random domains)
08:18 < enix> isnt 301 to main domain bad for seo
08:19 < AustinS> not really trying to SEO those domains, its just a bunch of random (sometimes unrelated) domains we own.  just default behavior
08:19 < AustinS> or non-www variants of main domain do 302's depending on if it's a specific rule/path
08:27 < enix> Urban Dictionary: niubi
08:27 < enix> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=niubi
08:27 < enix> Chinese word meaning "fucking awesome." Translated literally, it means "cow pussy."
08:27 < enix> Why the fuck would you try get to <ourdomain>/niubi.php
08:29 < AustinS> they're tryin to find your cow pussy porn obv
08:30 < AustinS>  / its probably a PHP script that gets spread around/infects vulernabgle things, and they're just scanning the interwebs for instances of it
08:42 < AustinS> used to have some crazy iptables rules that did rate based temporary banning of IP's depending on connection counts/frequency, and it tiered so if you got banned twice, it'd go longer, 3 times even longer.
14:50 < m4221> Plop
14:50 < m4221> plop: hey
14:51 < onicrom> hey hey
14:54 < Church-> Heya onicrom
14:54 < Church-> Other folks
14:54 < AustinS> oh people are alive :o
14:54 < Church-> Been alive for hours. Had a short nap and then back to work.
14:58 < m4221> I have my sword class this afternoon
15:13 < m4221> Did anyone hear about the comcast outage?
15:14 < AustinS> the cut fiber deal? ;p
15:19 < vader-> I think it was something else
15:21 < m4221> AustinS: yeah
15:21 < m4221> A guy from my martial arts class said it was rumored to be sabotaging
15:22 < m4221> The guy said that it was rumored to be an act of sabotage
15:23 < AustinS> nah, there were like 3 separate incidents on 2 diff networks it sounded like, the two on level3 ("centurylink" w/e, trash)  were completely unrelated afaik
15:24 < AustinS> just .. bad luck to have that many at the same time I guess lol
15:24 < AustinS> fiber cuts happen quite often, just usually don't notice much
16:40 < Tzunamii> Hmm, this might be handy for NordVPN users   https://github.com/damianrath/nordvpn_randomizer
16:43 < darkscrypt> i've heard people say sabotage, but i've not seen any confirmed reports of that
17:13 < Sousapro> Ermygerd
17:13 < Sousapro> Microsoft Andromeda leaked
17:13 < Sousapro> Pocketable Surface
17:13  * Sousapro desperately throes money at screen
17:13 < Sousapro> S/throes/throws
17:14 < Sousapro> Damn autocorrect
17:16 < onicrom> hello CharlesA
17:16 < onicrom> er hello Church-
17:17 < Church-> Scared 'im off.
17:17 < Church-> Ruh roh
17:20 < Sousapro> Ugh slashdot gets more unreadable every year
17:21 < Sousapro> Get off my lawn, Sonny. I need get people to use arch on everything
17:21  * Sousapro shakes walker at everyone who's not using GNU/Linux on everything
17:32 < rpifan> boy that was a fun night
17:32 < rpifan> not the best night ever but pretty fun
17:32 < rpifan> you wont believe it
17:34 < CharlesA> Sousapro, I had to help someone with a cheap "laptop" with a 32GB eMMC. Running Windows 10. The complaint was it was out of space. >.< Wonder if it'll run some form of Linux.
17:35 < darkscrypt> CharlesA: i run one of those cheap laptops win win10
17:35 < darkscrypt> CharlesA: lenovo ideapad 210s
17:35 < darkscrypt> they do run linux quite well too.
17:35 < rpifan> the guy i was with legit found a bag full of drugs on the street
17:35 < CharlesA> I think this was a dell.
17:35 < darkscrypt> that boot loader on those models is a pain in the bitch though
17:35 < rpifan> 8 molly capusules
17:35 < rpifan> and 6 pill presses
17:36 < genr8__> the latter are super illegal ;p
17:36 < CharlesA> They had around 200MB of free space, even after disk clean up. Windows was eating all the space, but I'm not sure why.
17:36 < CharlesA> darkscrypt, Oh boy.
17:36 < genr8__> SD Card
17:37 < darkscrypt> CharlesA: i'm having the same problem actually. but I primarily use this little laptop to rdp into my box at home
17:37 < darkscrypt> i think of it as a thin client lol
17:37 < CharlesA> That's pretty much all you can do tbh.
17:38 < genr8__> i love my thin tablet laptop
17:38 < CharlesA> I was thinking of doing a clean install of Windows 10 x86, but I honestly don't know how well it'll run on such a tiny drive.
17:38 < genr8__> fine
17:38 < genr8__> why is it using all the sapce
17:39 < CharlesA> All windows. 15GB was in the WinSxS folder.
17:41 < genr8__> you can run a WinSXS stored component cleanup
17:42 < CharlesA> That's actually a good idea, thanks.
17:43 < Sousapro> CharlesA: if you wipe it and install 1803, it will compress windows 10 and save a lot of space
17:43 < genr8__> Dism.exe /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup
17:43 < CharlesA> Sousapro, That's the plan. I think it's running build 15xx since it has no space to actually do the update
17:43 < CharlesA> :|
17:43 < Sousapro> CharlesA: they will get back like 10 to 15 gigs
17:43 < genr8__> my Win10 tablet has 10.8GB free out of 27.8GB
17:43 < rpifan> misspwn_,
17:44 < genr8__> 1803 32-bit
17:44 < Sousapro> I've got an HP tablet like that and I'm in the same boat as genr8__
17:44 < CharlesA> genr8__, Thanks for the info. I'll have to check it out later.
17:45 < genr8__> Win10 is surprisingly good at working on weak hardware. It also does native RAM memory compression if you have 2GB, it will only use like 1.3GB of ram
17:46 < genr8__> Windows dir: 10.5GB, 6.8GB on disk.
17:46 < CharlesA> o.O
17:46 < genr8__> i didnt do anything out of the ordinary either
17:47 < genr8__> make sure theres no Windows.old hidden folder,  and you might wanna use "WindirStat" or similar to get a tree overview of whats using the space
17:48 < genr8__> coffee time brb
17:48 < CharlesA> I did that yesterday. It was pretty depressing. No windows.old folder, Windows itself was using around 25GB.
17:48  * CharlesA twitches
17:50 < genr8__> even on my desktop which has been used everyday and is the same base install from 3 years ago... WinSXS folder is 6.37GB and 4.61gb on disk
17:50 < genr8__> I wish i knew what causes some peoples to balloon outta control..
17:50 < CharlesA> Same.
17:51 < CharlesA> My work laptop was up to around 20GB, but it had a bunch of extra shit installed on it.
17:51 < CharlesA> I checked my home box and it's around 8GB
17:56 < Sousapro> genr8__: for the ones out of control, I wonder how many updates they've installed and how many versions of Windows 10 they are behind
17:57 < genr8__> ive seen waste come from the 150MB ATI driver CAB/INF package stored duplicated 10 times over in the SXS folder
17:58 < genr8__> so judging by that, drivers get put in there too, and you know driver packages now are like 100MB
17:59 < genr8__> say like a bluetooth driver or a wireless driver is huge, and everytime it updates SXS stores the old versions
18:00 < genr8__> and then like you said, all the updates, and features updates. or failed rollbacks or failed setups ...... like its just a hidden chaotic area of windows and nobody really knows how to deal with it
18:00 < genr8__> other than the answer to everything with windows - "Format and Reinstall"
18:01 < CharlesA> kinda reminds me of the CBS log bug.
18:01 < CharlesA> heh
18:01 < CharlesA> Eat all the space.
19:23 < rpifan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZTtrBx7b0A
19:25 < DLSteve> yay, was able to nab an NES classic!
19:26 < rpifan> nes classic?
19:26 < DLSteve> Nintendo
19:26 <+CheckYourSix> Note to self... don't plug the vacuum into any living room outlet. They're all on the same breaker and apparently the vacuum plus computers are too much for it
19:27 < DLSteve> CheckYourSix, I have a UPS for all the stuff I care about for this very reason lol.
19:27 < DLSteve> Has well paid for itself with all the power blips we get.
19:28 <+CheckYourSix> So do I, but it didn't seem to last. It said 3 minute run time (I have a new UPS on the way that's much bigger). I unplugged the vacuum, ran over and reset the breaker, and apparently the UPS didn't see the power come back online. At 40% battery left, everything plugged into it lost power >.<
19:29 < rpifan> well
19:29 < rpifan> how do u play it without a tv
19:30 <+CheckYourSix> I'm gonna put everything but my desktop on the new UPS when it gets here. Should get 40-60 minutes of run time. My desktop will stay on the current UPS. I'll test how long it'll hold power before it dies
19:34 < DLSteve> CheckYourSix, Mines not very beefy but it's enough to keep my MacMini from going off line. Mac Mini takes next to no power when idling.
19:34 < JeffDev> hi
19:34 < DLSteve> Sorry no devs allowed.
19:34 < JeffDev> :(
19:34 < JeffDev> :'(
19:35 < JeffDev> I had actually a noob sysadmin question
19:35  * DLSteve bans himself.
19:35 < JeffDev> :(
19:35 < JeffDev> lol
19:35 < DLSteve> go for it
19:35 < JeffDev> I'm trying to setup a cisco ASA behind a NAT, I enabled IPSEC passthrough on my RV340
19:35 < rpifan> bad sysadmin
19:36 <+CheckYourSix> God damn, vSphere takes forever to start up again
19:36 < JeffDev> The tunnel is up, but i can't access resources on the other side
19:37 < JeffDev> My ASA log gives teardowns when i'm pinging from the remote side
19:37 < JeffDev> Any ideas?
19:38 < JeffDev> My first time using an ASA
19:38 < rpifan> whats asa
19:38 < JeffDev> Adaptive security appliance :P
19:40 < DLSteve> You lost me at Cisco ASA :P
19:40 < JeffDev> haha, no cisco nerds here?
19:40 < JeffDev> :O
19:41 < rpifan> i see
19:42 < JeffDev> haha
19:44 < DLSteve> I have networking people for that stuff.
19:44 < JeffDev> haha
19:45 < JeffDev> is there an IRC for such guys?
19:46 <+CheckYourSix> JeffDev: Try #cisco
19:46 < DLSteve> Probably someone who would know in here during the week
19:47 <+CheckYourSix> Or ##networking (they can be elitist cunts sometimes)
19:47 <+CheckYourSix> Can someone explain GSSAPI Authentication
19:47 < JeffDev> pinging them now :)
19:48 < rpifan> sysadmins are elitist
19:54 < genr8__> time to study up on Cisco packet tracer
19:55 < Sousapro> Most of the sysadmins I know can administer cisco gear but aren't really up to network engineer because we have way too many other things to specialize in
19:55 < Sousapro> I can do anything on networking gear, just slower than a professional
19:56 <+CheckYourSix> I really need to get into the habit of closing up all the tabs I have open.
19:57 < DLSteve> Sousapro, I pretty much specialize at the software level.
19:58 < genr8__> networking is done at the software level now, so
19:59 < Sousapro> genr8__: only if you can get your networking team to change how they work and for the business to approve $$$$$
19:59 < Sousapro> I personally think they need to increase the cost of ESXi and include NSX at the enterprise licensing tier
20:00 < Sousapro> It's ducking great that you have a highly performant solution but don't charge me 10k per VM host for it
20:02 < JeffDev> lol
20:02 < genr8__> everythings moving to number of CPU core count licensing model
20:03 < JeffDev> yeah
20:03 < DLSteve> Almost everything of ours is per user licensing :/
20:03 < JeffDev> was there a veeam per socket license?
20:04 < JeffDev> or is it all per vm?
20:05 < DLSteve> I would not be surprised if we are in violation of some license lol. There are a lot of things I just install and go.
20:11 < Sousapro> JeffDev: I was pretty sure it's 100% per socket
20:11 < Sousapro> JeffDev: but I bought early winter 2017 so it could have changed
20:14 < onicrom> man oh man what a rollercoaster week in crypto
20:16 < JeffDev> sousapro thanks
20:19 < rpifan> cactus?
20:19 < rpifan> whats your bid
20:31 < Sousapro> JeffDev: you're very welcome
20:55 < sideup66> Anyone in here use Android auto
21:21 <+CheckYourSix> sideup66: Maybe try #android
21:21 < sideup66> Maybe, I'm curious about why something the way it is more than a actual problem
21:57 < Church-> onicrom: You ain't kidding.
21:57 < Church-> Least we're on an upswing.
22:01 < JollyRoger`> Hi guys. Woah, there's another JollyRoger here? Ha, that's a coincidence. I'm new to systems administration but hoping to run a home server for my family, for basic things like mail, storage, that sort of thing.
22:04 < monoxane> JollyRoger` join #reddit-homelab for more stuff about that, this is mainly people who do it for a job
22:04 < DLSteve> I recommend IBM AIX.
22:04 < JollyRoger`> monoxane, woah, thank you, okay!
22:06 < JollyRoger`> Hope you don't mind if I stick around though, I'd really like to see what goes on in the professional side of things. I work at a small business and have to wear many hats.
22:06 < monoxane> yea all good
22:06 < JollyRoger`> Thanks!
22:06 < monoxane> i only got a real sysadmin job a few months ago but ive been here a lot longer than that
22:07  * JollyRoger` nods!
22:07 < DLSteve> I still don't know what I do but they pay me anyway.
22:08 < JollyRoger`> I've actually been interested in it because the industry I work in has been in a difficult spot. But the cybersecurity market on the hand has been growing, so I thought hey, maybe it might be a good time to look into a career change.
22:08 < DLSteve> cybersecurity and DevOps is bonkers right now.
22:09 < JollyRoger`> Bonkers?
22:10 < DLSteve> as in lots of opportunity.
22:10 < DLSteve> Both have their own sub specializations though.
22:11 < DLSteve> I work in InfoSec for example but I mainly deal with Identity & Access Management (IAM) and federated auth.
22:12 < JollyRoger`> Woah.
22:13  * Church- automates all the things
22:13 < JollyRoger`> I'm mostly interested in endpoint security, actually.
22:13 < DLSteve> Yah I just lock users out of things lol.
22:14  * JollyRoger` laughs
22:14 < JollyRoger`> That sounds like the best way to do it, haha.
22:14 <@JollyRgrs> what?
22:14 <@JollyRgrs> new irc who dis?
22:15 < DLSteve> JollyRgrs, The pirate Jolly Rogers obviously.
22:15 < JollyRoger`> Hi! You can call me Peter if it's too confusing.
22:16 < JollyRoger`> I followed a channel listing here, I didn't come here from the reddit. I'm interested in both hosting at home, but also potentially a career change since the industry I work in is in trouble right now.
22:17 < DLSteve> what industry?
22:17 < JollyRoger`> Manufacturing :(.
22:17 <@JollyRgrs> aol dial-up support?
22:17 <@mistiry> i was waiting for "PCI Compliance"
22:17 <@JollyRgrs> JollyRoger`: no worries... honestly, i don't reddit either
22:18 <@JollyRgrs> mistiry: PCI Compliance Chimp already took those players out years ago
22:18 < JollyRoger`> Got it, whew. I just didn't want to be mistaken for a puppet or nick thief.
22:18 < DLSteve> What did PCI compliance disappear?
22:19 <@mistiry> old channel meme
22:19 < DLSteve> oh
22:19 < JollyRoger`> Ha ha! I'd love to read about that one later :P.
22:19 < DLSteve> was going to say it's all about GDPR now anyway :P
22:19 <@mistiry> Only 2016 Kids Will Get This One Weird Joke
22:19 <@mistiry> i dont actually remember when it iwas
22:21 < DLSteve> It still cracks me up that One Trust was advertising that they were #1 in GDPR compliance weeks before the law even went into effect. Like how do we know you are number one?
22:21 <@mistiry> JollyRoger`: anyways, welcome, you dont have to be a professional sysadmin to be here, although during the week many of the active users are
22:21 < JollyRoger`> Well, wowzers! Thanks, I'll definitely want to stick around and ask questions!
22:21 <@mistiry> DLSteve: "Rated #1 By Some Guy On the Street"
22:21 < JollyRoger`> Hehe. X)
22:26 <@cryptic1> who is this fake JollyRoger`
22:26 <@JollyRgrs> mistiry: oh geez... i'm gonna have to look that up now
22:26 <@mistiry> acti0nman
22:26 < JollyRoger`> cryptic1, I'm new here. Name's Pete, I'm interested in systems administration as a possible career change and for home use.
22:26 <@mistiry> if you need a search term
22:27 <@mistiry> cryptic1 is a bot
22:27 < JollyRoger`> XP?
22:27 <@JollyRgrs> dang at least from before 2015, mistiry
22:27 < JollyRoger`> Well... for reference, my "Jolly Roger" moniker comes from that I'm a huge fan of pirate metal, and I was one of those kids that grew up playing "pirate" and just uh... never stopped.
22:28 <+A-KO> oh god
22:28 <@JollyRgrs> i got al ot of 2014, december, with me referencing acti0nman trying to get ppl to do something.. so ti was before then
22:28 <@mistiry> JollyRgrs: really...geez
22:28 <+A-KO> we have a JollyRgrs and JollyRoger`
22:28 <+A-KO> this is going to get confusin
22:28 <+A-KO> kind of like Reverend and ReverendDS
22:28 <+A-KO> lolol
22:28 <@JollyRgrs> A-KO: i agree
22:28 < JollyRoger`> Haha!
22:28  * A-KO farts
22:28  * A-KO needs something to drink
22:28 < JollyRoger`> Well, you guys can call me "Peter" or "Pete" and I'll set my client to respond to pings to both.
22:28 < onicrom> Church-: based on what people are saying the upswing is the start of the next major drop to below 5k
22:28 <@JollyRgrs> first one to speak up gets to keep their name
22:29 <@JollyRgrs> ME!
22:29 <@mistiry> lol
22:29 <@JollyRgrs> did i win?
22:29 < JollyRoger`> Noooo X(
22:29 < Church-> onicrom: What a wonderful industry to be in right? :P
22:30 <@mistiry> too bad im not ircop...could /sanick
22:30 <@mistiry> used to have fun with that way back when
22:34 <@cryptic1> so many JollyRogers
22:34 <@JollyRgrs`> hey guys
22:34 <@JollyRgr> hey whats up
22:34 < JollyRoger`> Yarr, we all be pirates!
22:34 <@JollyRgrs`> not much you?
22:35 <@JollyRgr> hanging out on my pirate ship
22:35 <@JollyRgrs`> thats funny so am I
22:35  * JollyRoger` pours tankards of grog for everyone!
22:35 < JollyRoger`> Drink up, me hearties!
22:36 < onicrom> Church-: volatility is nice for the exchanges thats for sure
22:38 < Church-> Heh
22:38 < Church-> How is your place going btw?
22:38 < onicrom> good
22:41 < Church-> Nice, good to hear.
22:49 <@JollyRgrs> aww, i missed the jolly party
22:49 <@cryptic1> aww
22:50 <@cryptic1> i tried to join in but im not really cool enough
22:50 <@cryptic1> mistiry though, he definitely is
22:50 < JollyRoger`> Hehehe. We can all be pirates X)!
23:32 <+CheckYourSix> Why do directories and files have to be owned by a particular person? Why can't they be owned by a group only? And how do you pick a user to assign it to if it's just a network share?
23:46 < adamb> CheckYourSix: most distro's have an account called 'nobody' for this purpose
23:47 <+CheckYourSix> What about on Windows?
23:47 < DLSteve> NTUSER or whatever maybe?
23:48 < DLSteve> CheckYourSix, Can always make an account in AD called nobody :P
23:48 <+CheckYourSix> DLSteve: :-P
23:49 < AustinS> if NFS export on a server, you can do all_squash and assign one generic uid/gid to force ownership to that for everything regardless of connecting
23:49 < AustinS> can do similar with samba but I don't use that as often
23:49 < DLSteve> We make up users for different applications, like Mr Matt Splunk has permissions to log into a desktop to display Splunk dashboards.
23:50 <+CheckYourSix> Fuck you PayPal, telling me to confirm my information if I want to spend money from my PayPal balance. Good reason to withdraw money every chance I get, even after confirming my info.
23:52 < AustinS> i refuse to leave $1 in paypal anymore after they held $1,600 of mine for 6 months
23:53 <+CheckYourSix> I should just withdraw it all now, even before the info is confirmed, but I'm afraid they'll freeze it if I do that...
23:57 < Hempux> Hello friendios
23:57 < Hempux> Why did they hold your money AustinS ?
23:58 < m4221> plop
23:58 < m4221> plop: hey
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