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00:00 < MillerBOSS> Wow its cold outside.
00:00 <+CheckYourSix> Hot as fuck here
00:00 < AustinS> my account was used for an online game i had back in 2003-2006 ish, and the LLC was under my dad's name, so the account was too, but it went to my bank.
00:01 < AustinS> got random chargebacks somewhat often because kids usnig their moms cards, but was never a big deal, always just reversed those, then one day they just froze it completely
00:01 < Hempux> >.>
00:01 < AustinS> and wanted all this documentation about who owned it ,etc.  They tried saying I signed up for it (which I actually got parents to, i wasn't 18 and didn't want to fuck with this exact thing)
00:01 < AustinS> and then when I finally got the docs showing it was under dads name, they said
00:01 < AustinS> well he already has a paypal account, and its against our terms of use to have two paypal acconuts
00:01 < AustinS> ........
00:01 < AustinS> even tho one was a "business" account and one was his personal.
00:02 < AustinS> so they held the money for the maximum legal amount of time, and then released it once 6 months hit
00:02 < Hempux> Because who would want to separete their private and their business paypal accounts? /s
00:02 < AustinS> right?
00:02 <+CheckYourSix> I hate PayPal
00:03 < AustinS> it was just a lot of bullshit.. i was pulling in good money for a HS kid just running this online game and they screwed me there. Eventually I ran it thru another LLC i had for hosting
00:03 <+CheckYourSix> Con artists
00:03 < AustinS> and I ran it thru as just "donate to our hosting costs! and you get x points/$!"
00:03 < AustinS> lol
00:03 < AustinS> yeah paypal is shit.. never liked them
00:03 <+CheckYourSix> AustinS: What kind of online game
00:04 < AustinS> one of those annoying spam your link around to get "clicks" types. and then just .. building teams/attacking other users/teams and increasing stats by getting clicks and that sorta stuff
00:04 <+CheckYourSix> I played a few of those when I was a kid. Turn based/click based ones. The initials for your game weren't DW, were they?
00:05 < Hempux> (AustinS starts sweating profously)
00:05 < AustinS> hahaha
00:05 < AustinS> fuck me
00:05 < AustinS> it actually was, a .org yeah.
00:06 < AustinS> i lost the .org recently but still have the .net variant... :P
00:06 < Hempux> Speaking of domains
00:06 < AustinS> and my initials were DS
00:06 < AustinS> :X
00:06 <+CheckYourSix> Well, there was one with DW and the owner's name was Austin, that's why I asked
00:06 < Hempux> Im still not sure what to do with testserver.se
00:06 < Hempux> A stupid blog?
00:06 < AustinS> i wasn't sure how many people even knew my first name lol
00:07 < AustinS> good ol' darkwars..
00:07 < AustinS> lol
00:07 <+CheckYourSix> LMAO! What are the chances
00:08 < AustinS> I like how Hempux jokingly says I'm sweating profusely, and I read the line above it and saw "DW" and was like oh man
00:09 < Hempux> Haha
00:10 < Hempux> I recall spedning money by SMS to buy parts for some kind of robot wars game
00:11 < MillerBOSS> So, hoes, is it possible to "pass through" a WAN IP from a /30 (ISP) from a SonicWALL to a Fortigate temporarily so I do not lose my site to site VPNs until I have my replacement Fortigates installed at remote sites?
00:12 < MillerBOSS> SonicWALL has multiple ports by the way
00:12 < Hempux> Can you explain that with more and less complicated words?s
00:12 < Hempux> Ah ok so you want the SonicWall to act more like a transparent switch?
00:13 < MillerBOSS> Yes but just one WAN IP as I am replacing a SonicWALL with a FortiGate but don't want to lose the site to site VPNs
00:14 < MillerBOSS> If that is the term I guess I could just research transparent switch
00:15 < Hempux> That might work but im just mixing terminology that seem to be aplicable to what you want to do
00:15 < adamb> draw an ms paint diagram
00:15 < MillerBOSS> Yeah I am unsure of the proper terms
00:15 < Hempux> Yes draw it out and it might make more sense
00:15 < MillerBOSS> Sure
00:37 < MillerBOSS> adamb: Hempux https://millerboss.com/x/Untitled-Diagram-S.png
00:38 < MillerBOSS> Green is current. Blue would be new. I will remote SonicWALL TZ600 once I have new FortiGates 60E installed and remove SonicWALL TZ600
00:38 < MillerBOSS> Also I stated /30 earlier. Meant /29
00:39 < sideup66> Hmm
00:39 < sideup66> I'm debating
00:39 < sideup66> Do I go from my Nexus 6p to a OnePlus 6
00:39 < sideup66> The 6p still serves me and may have another year of service life in it
00:39 < sideup66> But it's age is starting to show, components are getting tired, etc
00:41 < MillerBOSS> I will remove*
00:43 < MaxLeiter> sideup66: save the cash, wait until it dies
00:43 < MaxLeiter> imo
00:44 < sideup66> That's kinda my thought with it, it still serves my needs
00:44 < sideup66> Though age wise it's at the point where if something goes, I'm not fixing it
00:48 < MillerBOSS> Guess I will go in ##networking :P
00:53 < adamb> Millerboss: you can do that. It's just routing. You'd put a static route for the /32 on your sonicwall pointing at the fortigate, then assign the /32 on the fortigate to a loopback
00:54 < adamb> sonicwall recieves a packet for the /32, routes it to the fortigate
00:54 < MillerBOSS> But what is this called?
00:54 < adamb> it's just routing
00:54 < adamb> no magic needed
00:55 < MillerBOSS> OK. When you say "to a loopback" is that a setting?
00:55 < Hempux> Routing is kinda magic tho
00:55 < Hempux> In some cases :p
00:55 < adamb> a loopback interface, as in lo0
00:55 < adamb> localhost
00:56 < MillerBOSS> Gotchya
00:56 < adamb> we do exactly the same thing on our SRX5800's - /32 on a loopback interface with a static route to point traffic to the right place
00:59 < MillerBOSS> I need to learn this stuff in the long run. Its more interesting than a Windows admin
01:01 < genr8_> i had to explain to a college student the other day that he actually needed to learn the CIDR subnetting that was being taught in class and it wasnt just nonsense
01:01 < DLSteve> Yah most of my networking knowledge is at the load balancer level lol.
01:03 < DLSteve> genr8_, I somewhat understand that stuff but I have to use a calculator for subnets.
01:05 < genr8_> i guess thats ok if you arent that good at math. you should know at least the mathematical relationship
01:05 < genr8_> https://doc.m0n0.ch/quickstartpc/intro-CIDR.html
01:11 < DLSteve> genr8_, No I get how it works at concept level.
01:13 < genr8_> do you remember port numbers ?
01:13 < DLSteve> genr8_, I just don't deal with it on a day to day basis.
01:13 < DLSteve> ports I deal with all the time
01:14 < DLSteve> I do a lot of work with load balancers and proxies.
01:14 < Hempux> Hm
01:14 < genr8_> good, thats the other half of networking
01:15 < Hempux> Its 1.15Am i guessi should save my Fo4 game and go to bed..
01:15 < Hempux> Just one more adventure..
01:15 < DLSteve> genr8_, I do a lot with DNS as well.
01:37 <@JollyRgrs`> will the real JollyRgrs please stand up
01:39 < mistiry> GHOSTED
01:40 <@mistiry> ghosted
01:40 < aName> Trying to find a cheap projector. See one that looks kind of nice at first glance... reasonable price, nice big lense... but things start popping out at me - old connections, flashing on the injection molding, etc... And I'm starting to think this is one of those speaker van scams
01:40 <@mistiry> ahh...stupid client
01:40 < aName> I shit you not, the projector brand is 'Excelvan'
01:42 < aName> I'm just looking for something to hold me over while I look at better options though
01:43 <@mistiry> https://www.amazon.com/Excelvan/6360762011
01:43 < aName> Your link is no good
01:44 <@mistiry> https://www.amazon.com/Excelvan/pages/6360762011
01:45 < aName> Right
01:45 < aName> That's how the scam works
01:45 < aName> They hype up low quality goods like 'Oh it fell off a truck' or 'the boss says we have to get rid of it but it seems a shame to just toss it'
01:45 < aName> So you pay 100 bucks for 40 bucks of kit thinking you got a rockin' deal
01:48 < aName> Which... yes, I'm trying to buy a cheap projector
01:49 < aName> But I'm trying to buy a CHEAP projector =p
01:49 < aName> But I also want 720p native which apparently is just crazy
02:14 < gavit> is it possible to set php params in nginx like you can in apache?
02:16 < genr8_> https://www.sitepoint.com/setting-up-php-behind-nginx-with-fastcgi/
02:18 <+CheckYourSix> I'm starting to get fat. I need to lose weight
02:24 < gavit> genr8_: I meant php_value date.timezone 'America/NewYork'
02:25 < genr8_> fastcgi_param NAME "value";
02:31 < javi404> anyone know off the top of their head at what battery voltage an APC UPS will turn off? This would be an old Su1400 24volt version but I assume all 24 volt versions would do the same at the same voltage.
02:33 < coderphive> You know, there are many ways
02:33 < coderphive> I no da wae
02:33 < coderphive> PHP is not da wae
02:50 < rpifan_> well im leaving back to ny
03:27 < Hunterkll> cryptic1, dude you finally got busted? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/06/paedophile-caught-with-137k-indecent-images-of-children-spared-j/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_fb
03:29 < genr8_> damn paedos
03:37 < geekodour08> How does nginx listen on multiple IPs (https://www.thelinuxfaq.com/353-add-multiple-ip-address-on-nginx) I understand how the config goes but what is the reason behind using multiple IPs also i'll be serving nginx on a single server which will have a predefined ip by the hosting company so how can it listen to multiple IPs?
03:38 < Hunterkll> wat
03:41 < xe0n> loll
03:42 < abakedapplepie> i think i need a new computer
03:42 < abakedapplepie> my motherboard is an intel
03:42 < abakedapplepie> how long has it been? 5 years? since they made a motherboard
03:43 <@cryptic1> not me Hunterkll thats your safe house that was busted
03:43 <@cryptic1> well one of them
03:43 < Hunterkll> cryptic1, but you were taken into custody and judged
03:43 < Hunterkll> i do not have such a criminal record like you do
03:44 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: his record was expunged when he stated "i'm sorry" as his last words for the judge
03:48 < Hunterkll> .... i just found a bottle of white vinegar that expired in 2014
03:53 <@cryptic1> Hunterkll, its still good
03:56 < Hunterkll> cryptic1, smells good anyway
03:56 < Hunterkll> lol
03:57 <@cryptic1> what are you making with it?
03:57 < Hunterkll> nothing lol
03:57 < Hunterkll> just found it while digging for something else
04:04 < genr8_> geekodour08: clearly the underlying system has to already have the multiple IP addresess. if your hosting provider only gives you 1 then you cant do it...
04:07 < genr8_> or you can just listen on all addresses. listen *:80
04:09 < MadCamel> real men use 0.0.0.0
04:13 < coderphive> You guys are pigs irl
04:19 < MadCamel> dyslexic pigs. koin koin koin
04:20 < Church-> So my interviewer is 2 1/2 hours late with no response. Only a phone interview but still.
04:22 < MadCamel> well that makes it worse 'cause they could've dropped you a text
04:23 < Church-> Aye and this was after an hour of waiting and me emailing them to set a firm time around sevenish. Set it for eight. No response.
04:23 < Church-> Red flag if I saw one.
04:24 < Hunterkll> interview on a saturday? shady AF
04:25 < desgen> saturday means you're probably being interviewed by the boss ceo pres
04:25 < desgen> stay calm
04:25 < Church-> Only a phone so not that weord.
04:26 < Church-> desgen: Eh co-founder. So close enough.
04:26 < desgen> damn right close enough
04:26 < desgen> I already basically knew
04:26 < Church-> desgen: I'd be calm if they weren't hours late to a meeting they set!
04:27 < desgen> The co-founder is busy dictating people they need, so time gets consumed
04:27 < desgen> make sure they need you!
04:27 < desgen> stay calm!
04:27 < desgen> I hope my advice helps
04:28 < desgen> people say im soothing with my words
04:28 < desgen> thats why the whole channel went silent
04:30 < MadCamel> lol
04:31 < misspwn_> hai
04:34 < Church-> Heh
04:34 < Church-> Heya misspwn_
04:34 < misspwn_> it was lavaaa today
04:38 < Church-> Oh?
04:39 < misspwn_> yea thinkit was 107 today. and i spent 8 hours getting my hair done. my stylist is slow
04:42 < Hunterkll> misspwn_, it was! and yesterday too! Was in laughlin NV earlier
04:42 < Hunterkll> back on the shitty coast now tho
04:42 < Hunterkll> :(
04:44 < misspwn_> isn't it also lava on the coast?
04:44 < MadCamel> my a/c still can't keep up so I said heck it and swam in the river all day
04:48 < Church-> Lol
04:48 < Church-> Nice and cold here
04:48 < Hunterkll> misspwn_, 95 with 80% humidity
04:48 < Hunterkll> misspwn_, i prefer 108 with 1% humidity
04:49 < MadCamel> it's amazing what a difference a little shade can make. the past few years no ac problems at all. The city cut down one tree near my place and now I can't get it cool. Though yeah it at least lowers the humidity
04:50 < misspwn_> was saying the other day, last month my electric bill was 150 and this month it was 342
04:50 < misspwn_> same thing MadCamel
04:50 < misspwn_> AC is strugglin
04:51  * MadCamel eyes a 15kbtu window unit..
04:54 < misspwn_> make an ice rink yallllllllllll
04:54 < coderphive> My elec bill is like $89
04:55 < coderphive> and I live smack dab in the middle of tejas
04:55 < misspwn_> in a box? cause that's low as shit
04:55 < DoctorDick> WTF
04:55 < DoctorDick> How?
04:55 < coderphive> haha nah
04:56 < misspwn_> i have to cool a house
04:56 < coderphive> 1800 sq ft
04:56 < misspwn_> whatttttt
04:56 < coderphive> I keep my house around 74-78
04:56 < MadCamel> I bet it's insulated.
04:56 < coderphive> just did a lot of energy improvements
04:56 < misspwn_> yeah my house must be shit then because the heat or air escapes
04:56 < misspwn_> i know in the winter i can feel the cold air leaking in
04:56 < coderphive> I also have corrogated steel under my roof
04:57 < misspwn_> thermostat is set to 74 and it's finally comfortable
04:57 < coderphive> steel? aluminum?
04:57 < coderphive> w/e
04:57 < abakedapplepie> i am cooling my neighborhood
04:57 < abakedapplepie> i think my bill is like 180 right now lol
04:57 < misspwn_> man, abakedapplepie is the real mvp
04:57 < coderphive> that's nice of you
04:57 < misspwn_> i too, am cooling the neighborhood
04:57 < DoctorDick> Mine's 280
04:58 < abakedapplepie> roof insulation is nearly nonexistant
04:58 < DoctorDick> idk how yours isn't that high
04:58 < abakedapplepie> rats have taken it all
04:58 < abakedapplepie> theres just paper backing and turds
04:58 < abakedapplepie> eerr mice not rats
04:58 < MadCamel> I ran the #'s, mine's costing me about $30/week right now. Just two cheap window units runing 24/7. Power's 9c/kWh right now so that's why it's so cheap.
04:59 < abakedapplepie> i should pull up the grapoh from my ecobee
04:59 < misspwn_> DoctorDick, that's what i'm sayin... mine is running constantly to keep up with the outside and 342 last month. month prior to that was 150 (i was mistaken on the month) our electric company does some budget billing but honestly it won't make much of a differnce  at the end of the year when it's this hot
04:59 < DoctorDick> Right?
04:59 < DoctorDick> I live in Austin too
04:59 < DoctorDick> So it's central Texas and it's always hot as balls
05:00 < misspwn_> st louis here, where humididty meats the fucking heat and has crotch swamp sex
05:00 < misspwn_> meets*
05:00 < MadCamel> try an uninsulated masonary construction home in new england if you want energy bill pain.. the heating bill in january is about $900
05:01 < DoctorDick> I mean I moved from NY so I didn't have to deal with winter
05:01 < DoctorDick> Snow sucks ass
05:01 < MadCamel> I don't mind it as long as I'm not the one who has to shovel :D
05:02 < coderphive> This dude on livepd is about to get lit
05:11 < misspwn_> MadCamel, christ
05:13 < MadCamel> coal was cheap so they didn't care when building it and retrofitting insulation is near impossible due to the construction so I just freeze for now.. on the plus side the rent's dirt cheap and it's huge & nice.
05:15 < misspwn_> i mean for the price you spend with that electric bill, you could get the house insulated :p
05:40 < adapter> My power bill here in the Seattle area is so cheap
05:43 < AustinS> yeah when i was in Portland it was cheap :(
05:44 < AustinS> CT/NY not so much, altho im never home so it seems cheap
05:58 < Hunterkll> AustinS, lol we like $500/mo here
06:11 < coderphive> boiii
06:11 < coderphive> Why'd everyone dead
06:11 < coderphive> or why's
06:11 < Holo> why not
06:12 < coderphive> o
06:14 < MillerBOSS> `bofh cryptic1
06:23 < DrEmmettBrown> so y'all are sysadmins right
06:24 < xe0n> nice nick.
06:24 < DrEmmettBrown> being a sysadmin has been my dream for a long-ass time but I wanna know if it's a good career
06:24 < DrEmmettBrown> thanks man
06:24 < DrEmmettBrown> my favorite movie ever
06:25 < DrEmmettBrown> i mean trilogy
06:25 < genr8_> do you like linux ?
06:25 < DrEmmettBrown> yes
06:25 < DrEmmettBrown> currenty running ubuntu
06:26 < DrEmmettBrown> currently*
06:26 < DrEmmettBrown> I used regular debian for a while but decided to come back
06:26 < Holo> And before every distro fag does on the attack
06:26 < genr8_> its probably a better dream career than in reality
06:26 < Holo> Heh
06:26 < DrEmmettBrown> what do you mean/
06:27 < Holo> Why I moved to the networking side
06:27 < DrEmmettBrown> I mean I love IT in general
06:27 < DrEmmettBrown> not a huge fan of programming tho
06:28 < Holo> Well scripting is important
06:28 < Holo> Or you will get nowhere
06:28 < DrEmmettBrown> i mean sure i can make some scripts
06:28 < DrEmmettBrown> not a fan of full blown programming stuff tho
06:29 < DrEmmettBrown> I know intermediate Java and some python
06:29 < DrEmmettBrown> I'm still an HS Junior tho so I can still get my stuff together and prepare
06:29 < DrEmmettBrown> but I really wanna go into the IT field
06:29 < Holo> Soo much hope
06:30 < DrEmmettBrown> lmao
06:36 <@JollyRgrs> Holo: so much let down
06:36 <@JollyRgrs> DrEmmettBrown: prepare to be disappointed, but hopefully that won't detur you
06:37 < DrEmmettBrown> I don't mind being dissapointed
06:37 < DrEmmettBrown> it's my dream job since i was a kid
06:37 < DrEmmettBrown> and it's something that's really easy to me
06:37 <@JollyRgrs> DrEmmettBrown: well, the fact you are some millenial kid, but yet still happened to have good taste in movies, you got that going for ya
06:38 <@JollyRgrs> but srsly, scripting is MUY IMPORTANTE!
06:38 < DrEmmettBrown> lmao
06:38 <@JollyRgrs> whether bash or powershell
06:38 <@JollyRgrs> honestly, it is also good to be well rounded
06:38 < DrEmmettBrown> ok I can do bash scripts
06:38 < DrEmmettBrown> not so much powershell
06:38 <@JollyRgrs> even if you want to be strictly linux admin, you'll have to work with windows
06:38 <@JollyRgrs> powershell is now on linux :P
06:38 < DrEmmettBrown> oh boy
06:39 <@JollyRgrs> are you on linux b/c you like it better or because you hate windows?
06:39 < DrEmmettBrown> I like it better
06:39 <@JollyRgrs> good answer
06:39 < DrEmmettBrown> I do play in windows and do stuff there
06:39 <@JollyRgrs> it's ok to like one better than the other
06:39 < DrEmmettBrown> plus I love the Office suite
06:40 <@JollyRgrs> it's not ok to think the other is awful. being OS agnostic will get you far
06:40 < DrEmmettBrown> I'm certified in Powerpoint and Word idk if that helps
06:40 <@JollyRgrs> MS has the office suite and AD done better than anyone else trying to do similar
06:40 < DrEmmettBrown> and some other thing called dream something
06:40 <@JollyRgrs> haha... not really, except when you re doing your time in helldesk
06:40 < DrEmmettBrown> i think it was dreamwaver or whatever
06:40 <@JollyRgrs> dreamweaver
06:40 <@JollyRgrs> haha
06:40 < DrEmmettBrown> oh yeah that
06:41 <@JollyRgrs> so word to the wise for scripting... figure out your project... like work on what you have an actual need for that COULD be scripted... and script that
06:41 <@JollyRgrs> having a purpose driving your "labs" will keep you from just shelving it and "not finding time" to finish it
06:41 < DrEmmettBrown> what do you mean by labs
06:42 <@JollyRgrs> homelab
06:42 <@JollyRgrs> if you only have 1 computer at home... buy a cheap 2nd one (doesn't have to be a "server")
06:42 <@JollyRgrs> then you can run hyper-v or KVM or ESXi (all 3 of those are free license)
06:42 < DrEmmettBrown> I do have an old-ass laptop I used when I moved to the US
06:43 < DrEmmettBrown> it's a Toshiba NB205
06:43 <@JollyRgrs> that might not have a processor that can do hypervisor stuff
06:43 < genr8_> also dont get burned out by 23 and give up and then try to go back to it at 30
06:43 <@JollyRgrs> but maybe, depends on your young brain's version of "old ass" is
06:43 < genr8_> You got a long way to go
06:43 <@JollyRgrs> research it :)
06:43 < DrEmmettBrown> about 10 years old
06:43 <@JollyRgrs> yeah, prob not so much luck
06:43 < DrEmmettBrown> it was released on 2009 i think
06:43 < coderphive> first of all JollyRgrs
06:44 < coderphive> you don't get to drink and @
06:44 < DrEmmettBrown> yeah I'll see whats up with it
06:44 < coderphive> Also JollyRgrs
06:44 <@JollyRgrs> but it isn't that hard to find an i5 from a few years ago
06:44 < coderphive> My house is running on Docker
06:44 < coderphive> amazing
06:44 <@JollyRgrs> orly?
06:44 < coderphive> si
06:44 <@JollyRgrs> "running on docker"?
06:44 < coderphive> si
06:44 < coderphive> twice for effect
06:44 <@JollyRgrs> how many diff docks?
06:44 < genr8_> obtaining cheap used gear is a sysadmins best friend
06:44 < coderphive> like 7
06:44 <@JollyRgrs> ^^
06:45 < coderphive> postgres, homeassistant, influxdb, grafana, mqtt, etc
06:45 <@JollyRgrs> when businesses move (physically, or just move "to the cloud"), or when they upgrade hardware... they sell off their junk a lot of times in bulk
06:45 <@JollyRgrs> you can get some decent hardware for a low price
06:45 <@JollyRgrs> homeassistant?
06:45 < coderphive> Texas is like the mecca of dc liquidation gear
06:45 <@JollyRgrs> like google home assistant?
06:45 < coderphive> JollyRgrs: a home automation framework written in Python
06:45 < DrEmmettBrown> oh wait I do have a system
06:45 < coderphive> JollyRgrs: hass.io
06:46 < DrEmmettBrown> it's some AMD APU and 6 gigs of ram
06:46 < coderphive> also
06:46 < coderphive> I switched to irssi bc I'm an idiot
06:46 <@JollyRgrs> LOL
06:46 <@JollyRgrs> weechat4lyfe
06:46 < coderphive> you honestly would
06:46 < coderphive> bet you run windows 2
06:46 <@JollyRgrs> DrEmmettBrown: that might at least do something for you
06:47 <@JollyRgrs> i do... how else can i run battlefield and other EA games?
06:47 < DrEmmettBrown> I used to play on it awhile ago so yeah it probs will work
06:47 < coderphive> sigh
06:47 <@JollyRgrs> rocket league works on linux, so if not for BF, i might be back on linux
06:47 < coderphive> "be back"
06:47 < coderphive> redOS doesn't count
06:47 <@JollyRgrs> tbh though... win10 is pretty nice
06:47 < coderphive> fuckin comme
06:47 < coderphive> honestly /part yourself
06:48 <@JollyRgrs> but i was using ubuntu  (mostly) from just after vista came out (about a week after) until a few years ago
06:48 < coderphive> Grab a fresh version of Kubuntu 18.04
06:48 < coderphive> Let it change your world
06:48 <@JollyRgrs> i only had win7 on a laptop b/c it had a BD drive and i used anyDVD with it
06:48 <@JollyRgrs> i was more of a gnome person
06:48 < coderphive> DVD is still relevant?
06:48 <@JollyRgrs> i ran gnome ubuntu
06:48 < coderphive> seriously asking
06:48 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: i still buy phys. media
06:49 < coderphive> :o
06:49 <@JollyRgrs> it'll always (for a long time to come) outpace network based streaming
06:49 <@JollyRgrs> that compression :(
06:49 <@JollyRgrs> i'm a quality snob
06:49 <@JollyRgrs> both audio and video
06:49 < DrEmmettBrown> I really like gnome
06:49 < DrEmmettBrown> either that or mate
06:49 < coderphive> Gnome is hands down
06:49 < coderphive> awful
06:49 < DrEmmettBrown> I mean
06:49 < coderphive> KDE is just so collected
06:50 <@JollyRgrs> i was on the brink of using i3 or awesome before i went to windows :(
06:50 < DrEmmettBrown> oh yeah a friend of mine loves i3
06:50 < DrEmmettBrown> actually I should bring him here
06:50 <@JollyRgrs> i would just have like 10 diff frames of Terminator running
06:50 < coderphive> lmao
06:50 < coderphive> Terminator is my fav thing from gnome
06:50 < coderphive> It's the only good terminal
06:50 <@JollyRgrs> DrEmmettBrown: warning.... you seem pretty collected and not like an normal idiot HS kid
06:51 < coderphive> <-- idiot hs kid
06:51 <@JollyRgrs> but if your friend is... he'll probably want to /quit in a few minutes
06:51 < DrEmmettBrown> is that an insult or a compliment
06:51 < DrEmmettBrown> nah he's much more of a not normal HS kid than me
06:51 < DrEmmettBrown> He actually contributes to canonical
06:51 < DrEmmettBrown> so yeah
06:51 <@JollyRgrs> not bad
06:51 < DrEmmettBrown> to be honest the guy's great
06:51 <@JollyRgrs> i just learned git the other day, lol
06:51 < DrEmmettBrown> lmao
06:51 <@JollyRgrs> had been on my list of things for a few years
06:52 <@JollyRgrs> and by learn, i don't even know all the CLI commands yet... just how to use it through VS Code
06:52 < genr8_> try to find someone smarter than you and use them as a mentor
06:52 <@JollyRgrs> ^^
06:52 < DrEmmettBrown> He is definitely smarter than me
06:52 <@JollyRgrs> life lesson #138442778796: if you are the smartest person at your job and you have no one who could mentor you at your current level... find a new place
06:53 < DrEmmettBrown> lmao
06:53 <@JollyRgrs> until you reach well into 6 figure salary
06:53 <@JollyRgrs> then you might have a hard time
06:53 < DrEmmettBrown> what's 6 figure
06:53 < DrEmmettBrown> like 6 zeroes or 6 digits
06:53 <@JollyRgrs> well, $99,999 is only 5 figures
06:53 < DrEmmettBrown> oh then 6 digits
06:53 <@JollyRgrs> yup
06:53 <@JollyRgrs> that 100k mark
06:53 < DrEmmettBrown> yeppers
06:54 < DrEmmettBrown> that's my target salary
06:54 <@JollyRgrs> but depending on where you live, sr sysadmins might easily pull in 100-120k or so
06:54 < DrEmmettBrown> I'm from Florida
06:54 < DrEmmettBrown> America's penis
06:54 <@JollyRgrs> if i hadn't wasted 6 or 7 of my 8 yrs in geek squad, i coulda hit that number a lot sooner
06:54 <@JollyRgrs> what part of FL?
06:54 <@JollyRgrs> there's a number of ppl in here from FL
06:54 < DrEmmettBrown> South Florida
06:54 <@JollyRgrs> also a number frmo TX
06:54 < genr8_> you should talk to the other 15 year old from new zealand
06:54 < DrEmmettBrown> Broward to be specific
06:54 <@JollyRgrs> what's your address?
06:55 <@JollyRgrs> genr8_: whodat?
06:55 < genr8_> idk. im sure he will reveal himself. its daytime there
06:55 < DrEmmettBrown> 123 Go Fuck Yourself Drive, Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33325
06:55 < DrEmmettBrown> lmfao
06:55 <@JollyRgrs> welp, that narrows you down to a zipcode
06:55 < Hunterkll> FUCK BIN LADEENNNN
06:55 < Hunterkll> DO HER LIKE THE US GOVERNMENT DID BIN LADEEENNN
06:55 <@JollyRgrs> unless you were POSSIBLY... slightly smart enough to change it
06:56 <@JollyRgrs> but it checks out as at least a ft lauderdale zip
06:56 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: pls keep your lonely island to yourself :P
06:56 < Hunterkll> can you buy a road?
06:56 < Hunterkll> like
06:56 < DrEmmettBrown> yeah I live in broward I know where the zipcodes are located
06:56 <@JollyRgrs>  that video is just so creepy
06:56 <@JollyRgrs> lol
06:56 < coderphive> I think irssi is trolling me now
06:56 < Hunterkll> like
06:56 < Hunterkll> can i buy a road and rename it?
06:56 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: go back to weechat
06:56 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: well, at that point it would be a pvt road
06:56 < Hunterkll> sure
06:56 < Hunterkll> that's fine
06:56 < Hunterkll> but literally
06:56 <@JollyRgrs> so in my area, they are blue vs green street signs
06:57 < Hunterkll> could i legally have "Go Fuck yourself drive"
06:57 <@JollyRgrs> but yeah, i'm pretty sure you could... but they might have restrictions
06:57 < genr8_> you could probably just donate to the city and get them to rename it
06:57 <@JollyRgrs> pretty sure they'd not allow that?
06:57 < coderphive> DrEmmettBrown: You actually have a really good CS school there
06:57 < DrEmmettBrown> as far as i know you can adopt highways
06:57 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, but if it's a private road
06:57 < DrEmmettBrown> isnt that mcfatter
06:57 < DrEmmettBrown> idk
06:57 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: but if you want to receive mail there...
06:57 < Hunterkll> i feel like i need to hire aa lawyer for this
06:57 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, oh fuck yes i would
06:57 < coderphive> You want to buy a road Hunterkll?
06:58 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, i'll fucking cut off an acre of land to make a new road and pay for paving to make that road
06:58 < coderphive> why are you doing these things
06:58 < coderphive> Texas has private roads
06:58 < Hunterkll> coderphive, don't you want to live on "go fuck yourself drive" ?
06:58 < coderphive> You can fund them yourself then force the state to buy them from you when you don't maintain them
06:58 < coderphive> Actually, I kind of do
06:58 < coderphive> A nice suburban neighborhood
06:58 < genr8_> its like a v-host but for IRL
06:58 < Hunterkll> like
06:58 < Hunterkll> right in the court right?
06:59 < coderphive> There goes the neighborhood
06:59 < Hunterkll> next to the community lake
06:59 < Hunterkll> just - good court yards and streets here
06:59 < Hunterkll> then suddenly
06:59 < coderphive> this is why I listen to rap music
06:59 < Hunterkll> GO FUCK YOURSELF DRIVE
06:59 <@JollyRgrs> goodnight kids
06:59 < Hunterkll> lel
06:59 < coderphive> ASS BACK
06:59 < coderphive> YE I KNOW
06:59 <@JollyRgrs> GPS voice "if you have reached GO FUCK YOURSELF DRIVE you have gone too far, please make a u-turn"
06:59 < DrEmmettBrown> Call it "Go Fuck Yourself In A" Terrace
07:00 < Hunterkll> LOL
07:00 < Hunterkll> fuck
07:00 < coderphive> Day changed to 01 Jul 2018
07:00 < Hunterkll> if i remember this conversation i'll investigate the possibility of t his haappening
07:00 < coderphive> Nice feature of irssi to tell me I have no life
07:00 <@JollyRgrs> "Whydontwejustdoitinthe Rd."
07:00 < coderphive> thnks nerds
07:00 < Hunterkll> Client: HexChat 2.14.1 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Enterprise Insider Preview (x64) • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-7980XE CPU @ 2.60GHz (2.59GHz) • Memory: 31.7 GiB Total (13.1 GiB Free) • Storage: 6.1 TiB / 7.8 TiB (1.7 TiB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti • Uptime: 4h 29m 8s
07:00 < coderphive> i9
07:00 < coderphive> newb
07:00 < Hunterkll> next gen aint out yet
07:00 < coderphive> HOW DO I PASTE MY STATS IN IRSSI
07:00 <@JollyRgrs> i got an i15 in my spare workstation
07:01 < coderphive> I HAVE LOST FUNCTIONALITY
07:01 < Hunterkll> stuck with this shitty $2000 cpu till next gen goes
07:01 < Hunterkll> coderphive, idk i just did /sysinfo in hexchat (x-chat fork)
07:01 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: /part of_my_cpu_info
07:01 < Hunterkll> coderphive, /exec cat /proc/cpuinfo
07:01 < coderphive> honestly
07:01 < Hunterkll> wait
07:01 < Hunterkll> might be /exec -o
07:01 < coderphive> if I knew where you lived
07:01 < Hunterkll> not sure
07:02 < coderphive> idk, I have an imagine to maintain
07:02 < coderphive> image
07:02 < coderphive> w/e
07:02 < Hunterkll> lol
07:02 < Hunterkll> don't wanna post your cpu
07:02 < Hunterkll> cuz its shit
07:02 < Hunterkll> u aint got 18 cores
07:02 < coderphive> tldr; I have a xeon
07:02 < Hunterkll> u lil bish
07:02 < DrEmmettBrown> how do i send my specs
07:02 < genr8_> xeon for life
07:03 < Hunterkll> DrEmmettBrown, i have an hex/x-chat plugin that i can just type /sysinfo
07:03 < Hunterkll> DrEmmettBrown, but if you have linux you can propably pipe the cat of cpuinfo out to the channel
07:03 < Hunterkll> 'hi' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
07:03 < Hunterkll> operable program or batch file.
07:03 < Hunterkll> whoops
07:03 < Hunterkll> yea i'm on windows oh well
07:04 < DrEmmettBrown> I'mma take a little break
07:04 < DrEmmettBrown> cya guys
07:04 < Hunterkll> fek off
07:04 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: the /exec cat /proc/cpuinfo would work for me, but it would spew way too much info
07:04 < coderphive> https://play.google.com/music/m/Trhbzhah7rgdbee4rysljemi2je?t=Revelation_-_D12
07:04 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, oh, might need a cut or a sed, wouldn't it
07:04 < coderphive> When it was cool to be D12
07:04 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: what?
07:05 < genr8_> or even a grep
07:05 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: or a grep for a few lines... or something
07:05 < coderphive> JollyRgrs: I supplied some D12 legacy music
07:05 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: are you singing about M&Ms?
07:05 < coderphive> yes
07:05 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs,  -l 1?
07:05 <@JollyRgrs> my salsa?
07:05 < coderphive> This was my angry teenager music
07:06 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: -l 1 of what? cat cpuinfo?
07:06 < coderphive> along with metal
07:06 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, idk i lost my train of thought
07:06 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: you just want to be in my band, eh?
07:06 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, he wants to be in your bed bro
07:06 < coderphive> DADDY NO
07:06 < coderphive> NSFHS
07:06 < coderphive> ==
07:07 < coderphive> $this_chat
07:08 <@JollyRgrs> /exec grep -i name /proc/cpuinfo
07:08 <@JollyRgrs> kinda ugly though
07:08 < Hunterkll> 'grep' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
07:08 < Hunterkll> operable program or batch file.
07:08 < Hunterkll> fak
07:08 <@JollyRgrs> lol
07:08 <@JollyRgrs> can you bash.exe grep?
07:08 < coderphive> I wonder why
07:08 < Hunterkll> huh
07:09 < coderphive> Newblows
07:09 <@JollyRgrs> is there a /proc/cpuinfo?
07:09 <@JollyRgrs> there's always "findstr" haha
07:09 < Hunterkll> /usr/bin/cat: /usr/bin/cat: cannot execute binary file
07:09 < coderphive> Do you get /proc on win subsystem?
07:09 < Hunterkll> yea i can bash it
07:09 < Hunterkll> coderphive, yes
07:09 < coderphive> hah
07:09 <@JollyRgrs> i can cat cpuinfo from bash.exe
07:09 < coderphive> They must just be streaming into a file
07:09 < Hunterkll> OH GOD
07:09 < Hunterkll> THANK GOD I DIDN'T
07:10 < Hunterkll> 36 ENTRIES
07:10 <@JollyRgrs> hahaha
07:10 < coderphive> https://play.google.com/music/m/Tehjb3bvb4mp4tnjtr4ezgag3vu?t=The_Truth_-_Win_Cant_Lose
07:10 < coderphive> This is what I listen to while I code
07:10 < coderphive> I honestly I don't deserved completed builds
07:10 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, coderphive https://i.imgur.com/YciCOCQ.png
07:11 < Hunterkll> i would have killed my irc client if that started spewing
07:11 <@JollyRgrs> heh
07:11 < coderphive> heh
07:11 <@JollyRgrs> banted
07:11 < Hunterkll> heh
07:11 < coderphive> I called it
07:11 < Hunterkll> /usr/bin/bc: /usr/bin/bc: cannot execute binary file
07:11 < Hunterkll> wat
07:11 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: so ghetto EDM? :P
07:11 < Hunterkll> how does this inter-subsystem IPC work
07:12 < Hunterkll> i know linux is equally as native as win32 now on the NT kernel
07:12 < Hunterkll> but how the fuck do i do shit
07:12 < Hunterkll> and WHICH environment is it executing in?!?!1
07:12 < Hunterkll> /usr/bin/whoami: /usr/bin/whoami: cannot execute binary file
07:12 < Hunterkll> oh god
07:12 < Hunterkll> i think it's jailed
07:12 < coderphive> irssi just pastes it in the window
07:12 < coderphive> pretty decent
07:12 <@JollyRgrs> prob a smart thing from their perspective
07:13 < Hunterkll> hexchat from the win32 environment subsystem might
07:13 < Hunterkll> actually
07:13 < coderphive> I hate how screen doesn't support UTF-8 out of the box
07:13 < coderphive> like wtf made this
07:13 < coderphive> OH WAIT
07:13 < Hunterkll> be hitting the WSL WITHOUT any environment at all
07:13 < coderphive> RMS
07:13 <@JollyRgrs> screen is ancient
07:13 <@JollyRgrs> that's why
07:13 < Hunterkll> ima try something
07:13 < Hunterkll> if i crash horribly
07:13 < Hunterkll> lol
07:13 < Hunterkll> but i'm try it
07:13 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: open a PM to yourself
07:13 <@JollyRgrs> test in there
07:14 < Hunterkll> /sbin/init: /sbin/init: cannot execute binary file
07:14 < Hunterkll> damn
07:14 <@JollyRgrs> so hopefully not flood kicked
07:14 <@JollyRgrs> haha
07:14  * coderphive sets mode +b Hunterkll 
07:14 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, i tried to init myself :P
07:14 < Hunterkll> wait
07:14 < coderphive> lolwut
07:14 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: do you know how i should determine my CPU performance within a VM?
07:14 < Hunterkll> so if i can figure out where to store binaries to execute....
07:14 < Hunterkll> i can run linux binaries from hexchat on windows desktop....
07:15 < Hunterkll> what fucking world is this
07:15 <@JollyRgrs> i know you're more hyper-v and not so much KVM... but it would have to be something simliar... a benchmark or something?
07:15 < coderphive> JollyRgrs: by remembering the setting you set when you started the VM?
07:15 < coderphive> lolol
07:15 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, honestly i mostly use SQL benchmarks
07:15 < coderphive> Xen or KVM?
07:15 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: my problem is i suspect i'm not getting what i'm expecting
07:15 <@JollyRgrs> KVM
07:16 <@JollyRgrs> my plex has troubles transcoding, evne if i give it 8 cores
07:16 < genr8_> coderphive: its screen -U
07:16 <@JollyRgrs> but if i put plex on the same model (R710) as a jail on my freenas box, i can run it on the "hurt my cpu" setting and be fine
07:16 < coderphive> genr8_: I know
07:16 < coderphive> just annoying I had tot type that
07:16 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, i'll tell you right now - if it's CPU bound, Hyper-V's your answer. If it's storage bound, Hyper-V's your answer. if it's resource contention, Xen. If it's compat/code VMware
07:16 < genr8_> agreed. utf-8 should be the standard now
07:17 <@JollyRgrs> tbh, i only did kvm b/c i wanted to learn and i thought it was better to manage than trying to od esxi without vsphere
07:17 < coderphive> First of all
07:17 < DrEmmettBrown> Ok I'm back
07:17 < Hunterkll> KVM is shit
07:17 < Hunterkll> that's the first of all
07:17 < coderphive> You should only configure 1 core per VM with KVM
07:17 <@JollyRgrs> but i'm not sure how much i'd wanna go to hyper-v
07:17 < DrEmmettBrown> what's up my people
07:17 < coderphive> That'll boost you some
07:17 <@JollyRgrs> i'd be fighting it internally :)
07:17 < Hunterkll> coderphive, god, it's 1:1
07:18 < Hunterkll> that's really how bad it is?
07:18 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: how well does hyper-v do pci passthrough?
07:18 < coderphive> Hunterkll: no
07:18 < Casteil> Hyper-V's not that bad
07:18 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, 2016 officially only supports GPU passthrough .... but everything else works
07:18 < Hunterkll> Casteil, no i was talking about KVM on that comment above
07:18 < coderphive> Virtual Cores can be assigned to a physical core
07:18 <@JollyRgrs> i'd want network card passthrough
07:18 < coderphive> They should all be assigned to the same physical core
07:18 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, should work just fine
07:18 <@JollyRgrs> on freebsd?
07:18 < coderphive> Apparently makes addressing easier
07:18 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, i meant on hyper-v
07:19 <@JollyRgrs> there's issues with virtio and freebsd
07:19 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, DDA will work for a NIC
07:19 < Hunterkll> actually, it'll work for any PCIe
07:19 < Hunterkll> https://lenovopress.com/lp0088.pdf
07:19 < Hunterkll> read dat
07:19 <@JollyRgrs> i'm almost tempted to spin back up one of my 2950s and see if i can get myself to agree to run hyper-v as my hypervisor
07:19 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, 2950 is no-go
07:20 < Hunterkll> need next gen hardware
07:20 < Hunterkll> R710 era
07:20 <@JollyRgrs> well, that's what i got now...
07:20 < Casteil> that reminds me.. I still need to sell my R710
07:20 <@JollyRgrs> but i can't take down prod to test...
07:20 < Hunterkll> 2950 will run 2012 R2
07:20 <@JollyRgrs> but my test doesn't support
07:20 <@JollyRgrs> dang
07:20 < Casteil> haven't felt like firing it up to make sure I don't have anything sensitive on it before I sell it
07:20 < genr8_> i still need a R710
07:20 < Hunterkll> need newer for 2016
07:20 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, they made SLAT required on server side for 2016
07:20 < Casteil> Hunterkll: I was running Server 2016 on mine :P
07:20 < Casteil> granted I was running ESXI
07:20 < Casteil> ESXI + 2 Windows Server VMs and a linux VM
07:20 < Hunterkll> Casteil, i'm talking about running aurora under windows
07:20 < Hunterkll> lol
07:21 < coderphive> JollyRgrs: there's an app called stress you can run on the host and the VM
07:21  * Casteil hard shrugs
07:21 < Hunterkll> (the tier-1 hypervisor that's called hyper-v)
07:21 <@JollyRgrs> Casteil: just apt-get install stress?
07:21 <@JollyRgrs> lol
07:21 < coderphive> Subtract the difference for overhead. On KVM it shouldn't be much if everything is setup right.
07:21 < coderphive> yes
07:21 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, get an X8 super micro motherboard and swap hardware around
07:21 < Hunterkll> i'm whiteboxing for home shit now
07:21 < Casteil> JollyRgrs: lol I haven't touched the linux vm really since I set it up
07:22 <@JollyRgrs> d'oh, meant to highlight coderphive
07:22 < Hunterkll> brb smoko
07:22 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: GET REKT
07:22 < coderphive> stress -c <worker num>
07:22 <@JollyRgrs> says you to your lungs
07:23 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, man, i have dual hex core xeons with 96GB ram and all SSDs for my home servers, my lungs can fuck off and wait for their time to get replaced. servers first. :P
07:23 < coderphive> Gonna need you to return all that equipment you stole
07:23 < coderphive> >.>
07:23 <@JollyRgrs> and for now... i'll have to wait on the supermicro whitebox stuff
07:23 < coderphive> YEAH WELL
07:23 < coderphive> I have a cloud account
07:23 <@JollyRgrs> i still work on free or nearly free hardware :P
07:23 < coderphive> so fuck off Hunterkll
07:24 <@JollyRgrs> i don't gamble for my spendin munies
07:24 < coderphive> my GCP vs your server
07:24 < coderphive> Let's play
07:24 <@JollyRgrs> his server?
07:24 <@JollyRgrs> you mean his workstation?
07:24 < coderphive> That's not his workstation
07:24 < Casteil> ugh
07:24 < Casteil> I've got some raccoons to kill
07:24 < coderphive> Hex Core xeons is a server
07:24 <@JollyRgrs> oh
07:24 < Casteil> 6 fucking raccoons just ran across my deck
07:24 <@JollyRgrs> i was thinking about the i9 still
07:25 < coderphive> Casteil: there goes the neighborhood
07:25 <@JollyRgrs> Casteil: nooooo!
07:25 < Hunterkll> coderphive, wait what
07:25 < Hunterkll> coderphive, i have ebay receipts bitch :P
07:25 <@JollyRgrs> but the trash pandas have a very integral job in our society
07:25 < coderphive> :D
07:25 < Casteil> they're pests
07:25 < coderphive> no no no
07:25 <@JollyRgrs> who else will rip holes in unprotected trash bags if not them?
07:25 < Casteil> and I will shoot every one that gives me the opportunity to do so
07:25 < coderphive> :(
07:25 < coderphive> Racoons are nice though
07:26 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, oh i'll bugger you while i'm buggering coderphive at the same time
07:26 < Casteil> yeah no they're not
07:26 < Hunterkll> don't worry
07:26 < Casteil> those fuckers get on my roof
07:26 < Hunterkll> medical science is advancing
07:26 < Hunterkll> i too can be double dick dude
07:26 < coderphive> Hunterkll: Listen, my stupid go lang app will eat your hexcore dumpster fire any day
07:26 < genr8_> when i was 15 and 16 i used to go dumpster diving behind a local PC store and we pulled out so much good stuff from there as kids
07:26 < genr8_> it really fueled my youth
07:26 < Hunterkll> anyway, to that smoko
07:26 <@JollyRgrs> genr8_: so you'd say your youth was fueled by garbo
07:26 <@JollyRgrs> i'm out
07:26 <@JollyRgrs> peace!
07:27 < coderphive> My go lang app is actually pretty cool
07:27 < Casteil> https://i.imgur.com/WpusPpG.png
07:27 < coderphive> highly underrated
07:27 < Casteil> EXTERMINATE
07:27 < coderphive> nooo
07:27 < genr8_> the largest contaminant was coffee
07:27 < Casteil> I have my ip cam feed on my desktop so I can see when my motion light kicks on
07:28 < coderphive> Also it looks like they're just going for a swim
07:28 < Casteil> and I'll go out and shoot the little rat bastards
07:28 < genr8_> i want to go back to the times when independent PC repair stores could exist
07:29 < genr8_> it used to be fun
07:30 < coderphive> I don't
07:30 < coderphive> Those were dark times
07:30 < coderphive> no cloud in the sky
07:31 < coderphive> That's like a gun maker that wishes for blacksmithing to be a thing again
07:40 < Casteil> https://i.imgur.com/mWVAT0N.png < Jesus christ that's a big raccoon
07:44 < Casteil> coderphive: I've been messing with Angular/Material lately
07:44 < Casteil> kinda leaning that way for a rewrite of our in-house sales/service webapp
07:50 < Casteil> makes it really easy to get up and running with some sexy/reactive UI
09:26 < Hunterkll> FUCKING WINDOWS UPDATE
09:26 < Hunterkll> I HAVE DAMN SPINNING GEARS IN MY FACE
09:26 < Hunterkll> FUCK
09:26 < Hunterkll> HOLOLENS UPDATE FASTER
09:29 < catbeard> Yup
09:29 < Hunterkll> damnit
09:30 < Hunterkll> it has better fucking spatial mapping
09:30 < Hunterkll> and focal distance auto mapping
09:30 < Hunterkll> UPDATE NOW
09:30 < Hunterkll> catbeard, FORCE THE UPDATE INTO MY HEADSET
09:30 < Hunterkll> ALL I SEE RIGHT NOW IS SPINNING GODDAMN WINDOWS UPDATE GEARS
09:31 < catbeard> \a
09:34 < catbeard> Win95.wav
09:34 < Hunterkll> A-KO, make microsoft make the updates faster
09:35 < Hunterkll> catbeard, I STILL HAVE THE GEARS
09:35 < Hunterkll> catbeard, this been like 20 minutes now!
09:35 <+A-KO> lol
09:35 <+shakygator> yay maintenance windows
09:35 < Hunterkll> A-KO, to be fair it is the first major windows holographic update in like a year and a half
09:35 < Hunterkll> BUT FUCK I'M IMPATIENT OKAY
09:36 < Hunterkll> A-KO, on the plus side your buddy will get to check out the bleeding edge software so yay?
09:36 < Hempux> Good morning everyone
09:36 < Hunterkll> though, an hour ago - i regret saying "hey cortona, windows update"
09:37 < Hunterkll> FOR FUCKS SAKE HOLOLENS FUCKING UPDATE
09:37  * Hunterkll slaps Hempux with a fat fuckin' trout
09:37 <+A-KO> okay 17704 installed
09:37 < Hunterkll> A-KO, i still have gears.........
09:39 < Hunterkll> A-KO, holy shit. this update is supposed to be even bigger than i thought - https://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-hololens-image-sensors-windows-10-update-18534584/
09:39 < Hunterkll> MS gave API access to all the sensors
09:39 < Hunterkll> literally like 3 days ago
09:39 < Hunterkll> THE GEARS STOPPED
09:39 < Hunterkll> I SEE A WINDOWS LOGO
09:39 < catbeard> pen0r sensor activated
09:40 < Hunterkll> JUST RELOGED IN TO MY WINDOWS ACCUNT
09:40 < Hunterkll> holy shit
09:40 < Hunterkll> holy shiit
09:40 < Hunterkll> dude
09:40 < Hunterkll> this got so much better
09:40 < catbeard> DoA Xtreme Beach Volleyball running...
09:40 < Hunterkll> A-KO, dude im not selling this
09:40 < Hunterkll> holy shit
09:41 < Hunterkll> A-KO, ITS FUCKING USABLE
09:41 < Hunterkll> HOLY SHIT
09:59 < Hunterkll> holy fucking shit
10:04 < Hempux> Calm down
10:07 < Hempux> Should i settle for ZNC on a AWS VPS or is there something better out there?
10:13 < Katnip> raspberrypi
10:14 < Katnip> where is A-KO
10:17 < AustinS> woah. unexpected. i ordered 2 mcdoubles cause i wanna hate myself
10:17 < AustinS> bit into 2nd one and its a bacon one, never had one before but really confused me
10:22 < MillerBOSS> `bofh
10:22 < MillerBOSS> :(
10:23 < MillerBOSS> Hempux: I like Vultr for stuff like that
10:23 < MillerBOSS> But still use Route 53 for DNS
11:17 <+shakygator> lol wtf hour 4 of maintenance
11:18 <+shakygator> Hempux, aws is pretty expensive.  its great but i dont pay those prices to host toys
11:18 < catbeard> bad place to host firepower
11:30 < Hempux> shakygator, but what about the free tier?
11:31 <+shakygator> thats fine
11:31 <+shakygator> but its only for a year
11:31 <+shakygator> dont get me wrong i love aws, just expensive
11:31 <+shakygator> my bouncer is on digital ocean
11:31 <+shakygator> but there are others, and cheaper
11:34 < catbeard> my only gripe with aws is that you can't increase memory after you provision
11:36 <+shakygator> what
11:36 <+shakygator> you can upgrade instance sizes
11:38 < gavit> morning
11:41 < catbeard> where
11:44 < catbeard> oh you gotta stop it
11:44 < AustinS> i have a bouncer, i just forget about it / need to set it up and use it
11:45 < AustinS> --- [AustinS_] (~austin@2001:19f0:5:3a70:5400:1ff:fe8f:c733) : ZNC - https://znc.in
11:45 < AustinS> aw he's still there actually :P
11:45 <+shakygator> catbeard, yes, and then just change instance type
11:47 < adamb> irssi in tmux on the workstation that never gets turned off
11:49 < adamb> I hear you can do that with windows too, these days
11:55 < pcspkr> except windows will reboot itself once a month
12:03 <+shakygator> will this maintenance ever end
12:03 <+shakygator> hour 5, start now
12:07 < monoxane> no
12:07 < monoxane> just needs some percussive maintanance
12:07 < monoxane> instead of proactive maintanance or whatever youre doing
12:08 <+shakygator> its 5am!
12:08 < AustinS> 6* ;O
12:08 < monoxane> **pm
12:09 < monoxane> s/**/*8
12:09 < monoxane> apparently we have no regex bot here
12:09 < AustinS> oh yeah that was other chan.  i guess not! :O
12:10 <+shakygator> used to be
12:10 < monoxane> im in too many chans to keep track of which has it and which dont so i just do it out of habit
12:12 < AustinS> its been so long since I coded anything for IRC. i remember making crazy mIRC scripts
12:13 < AustinS> i really hope i find those all some day once I get my old old hard drives in my possession and pull them into one place
12:13 < AustinS> had a legit socket based, multiplayer full game of monopoly.. from mIRC scripts and bitmap files lmao
12:16 <+shakygator> !monopoly start
12:48 < AustinS> woah on my GitLab install ...    @austin  Member since August 13, 2014
12:48 < AustinS> almost 4 years ago ?! wat
12:49 <+shakygator> Total Commits: 2
12:52 < monoxane> shakygator nah we all know its 1 with like 3000 comments
13:36 <+shakygator> suns coming up
13:46 < genr8_> i can code. in C++.C#,python,some javascript
13:47 <+shakygator> congratulations
14:20 < Alternity> i only code in assembly
14:30 < monoxane> i only code in PDP-11 Assembly via the utmost highest quality artisan punched cards made from 100% recycled cotton with no chemicals used in the process
14:30 <+shakygator> i want sleep
14:31 < Katnip_> sleep is overrated
14:33 < monoxane> sleep is for the weak, the week or DrGibby| which ever is most relevant
14:40 <+ktechmidas> back soon...switching my BNC server off (finally moving it, after wanting to decom it months ago!)
14:51 < AustinS> my sleep will be for the week. O_O
14:54 <+shakygator> hour 7 of maintenance is now concluding
14:54 <+shakygator> 1 hour over schedule
14:56 < monoxane> eh it could be worse
15:04 <+ktechmidas> test
15:04 <+ktechmidas> woo it worked
16:03 < m4221> Greetings
16:04 < ny0x> hola
16:17 < darkscrypt> morning m4221
16:17 < m4221> darkscrypt: o/
16:18 < darkscrypt> ltns. how ya been?
16:18 < m4221> darkscrypt: I went to a friend's martial arts test friday
16:19 < m4221> darkscrypt: had sword class yesterday
16:19 < darkscrypt> nice. i'm just at my parents. spent the night out here last night. now i'm waiting on breakfast
16:19 < darkscrypt> what style martial arts?
16:19 < coderphive> Sword class?
16:19 < m4221> darkscrypt: hapkido
16:19 < coderphive> Am I dreaming?
16:20 < JollyRoger`> Wow, that sounds really fun.
16:20 < coderphive> Have I ended up in a different dimension?
16:20 < m4221> darkscrypt: and german longsword
16:20 < JollyRoger`> Now THAT sounds even more fun!
16:20 < darkscrypt> coderphive: yes, you have.
16:21 < m4221> We had fun gauntlet practice yesterday
16:21 < darkscrypt> i used to do wingchun i kinda want to get back into it
16:21 < darkscrypt> i loved that class.
16:22 < m4221> darkscrypt: I suddenly made a lot of practice just by relaxing
16:22 < m4221> Progress*
16:22 < JollyRoger`> I unfortunately made the mistake of going to what I call a "Belt Factory." I'd like to learn something more real.
16:22 < darkscrypt> m4221: in hapkido?
16:22 < m4221> darkscrypt: sword class
16:24 < darkscrypt> JollyRoger`: yeah, the one i was at didn't even offer belts that teacher was very um... intense haha. i remember he knew if i didn't practice that weekend and he'd make the warmups sooo painful
16:24 < darkscrypt> he said if he couldn't make me fight with my mind, he would make me strong. He could either make me smarter or stronger. the option for which one was mine
16:24 < JollyRoger`> Oh wow, hahaha. I guess that's how you know your teacher is really passionate, haha.
16:25 < darkscrypt> i need to find something else like that. the discipline was great for other areas of life
16:25 < JollyRoger`> Oh yeah, I bet!
16:25 < darkscrypt> i think it made me stronger as a person yanno
16:26 < sideup66> Years ago I took hapkido, old guy I had as a trainer as a kid trained Chuck Norris (this is in the 90s mind you)
16:26 < JollyRoger`> Undoubtedly. Right now I'm going to this fitness training bootcamp and I know that the skill to be able to push myself hard has really paid off already.
16:26 < JollyRoger`> In work and in play!
16:28 < darkscrypt> dirty
16:29 < JollyRoger`> sideup66, holy crap!
16:30 < JollyRoger`> That's awesome!
16:30 < sideup66> Yep, was in Philly at the time, maybe 8 years old
16:30 < JollyRoger`> Wow!
16:31 < JollyRoger`> I have a small collection of weapons that I've assembled over the years, and a couple swords with them. The problem is though, I don't know how to use them for anything else, so I just keep them on display.
16:32 < JollyRoger`> One of them is a Shin Ken, it's my pride and joy, but I'm only just slightly skittish about trying to take a three foot long razor off the wall and try to wave it around.
16:33 < sideup66> Go learn some martial art to learn how to use it
16:33 < sideup66> They'll train you man
16:34 < sideup66> On a slightly unrelated note, why did gaurdians of the Galaxy get the music so right
16:34 < sideup66> Like the music, that 70s/early 80s stuff was amazing for it's time
16:34 < JollyRoger`> I would really like to! I've had that sword for many years, it would be cool to actually do something with it aside from it just looking pretty.
16:34 < JollyRoger`> Oh wow. I haven't seen those.
16:36 < sideup66> Really? It's on Netflix if you have it
16:36 < JollyRoger`> Got it. I haven't got NetFlix, I think maybe I should.
16:37 < JollyRoger`> I live in Canada though so due to some odd copyright laws it might not be available in my country. I used to VPN down to the United States to get the American content, but now NetFlix identifies you by the IP address you used when you registered and your credit card so I think I might have to get a bit creative.
16:38 < JollyRoger`> I'll find a way :).
16:38 < JollyRoger`> Think maybe I'll get an American Express card, or something.
16:42 < JollyRoger`> Hey guys. I do have a bit of a systems administration question, if anyone's up for work talk on the weekend...? If not I'll save it for Monday night.
16:43 < sideup66> JollyRoger`: you should be able to get those (Disney) but alot of people in other countries VPN around to do that
16:43 < sideup66> Just hope comcrap doesn't break more fiber lines :p
16:44 < JollyRoger`> Yeah >_<.
16:45 < sideup66> I don't care for em much either
16:46 < sideup66> But no other high speed provider where I live
16:46 < sideup66> Them or dsl
16:46 < JollyRoger`> Jeez :(.
16:46 < sideup66> Yeah, sadly the us let the cable cartel carve out their territories
16:46 < sideup66> Gotta love our FCC
16:46 < JollyRoger`> That's awful! That's even worse than what we have here, at least here there is something of a pretense of competition!
16:46 < sideup66> Don't let the last mile compete
16:46 < JollyRoger`> Yeah :(.
16:46 < JollyRoger`> Arrrgh! :(
16:46 < sideup66> Some areas like NY are okay
16:46 < sideup66> You have a ton of providers in one spot, so you can pick
16:47 < m4221> darkscrypt: the sword class is fun
16:47 < sideup66> I wish we had fiber here, Comcast and the cable cartel don't want to do the last mile upgrade, though those of us who have fiber say it blows cable out of the water
16:47 < JollyRoger`> That makes sense. I've heard some horror stories about how in the United States a lot of the urban areas get preference but then there are some areas where the providers just stop caring once they reach the end of the line on some map.
16:48 < vader-> any of you guys have experience with AMD A12 processors?
16:48 < vader-> i am looking to buy an AIO computer: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-520-24ast-23-8-touch-screen-all-in-one-amd-a12-series-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-black/6009200.p?skuId=6009200
16:49 < vader-> for someone
16:50 < JollyRoger`> I don't, sadly :(.
16:50 < vader-> they are going to do really basic shit with it
16:50 < vader-> internet surfing, emails, and maybe some youtube videos
16:50 < vader-> i think it should be ok
16:51 < sideup66> Is that a spinny?
16:52 < vader-> spinny HD?
16:52 < sideup66> 1 tb mechanical or ssd? By price point I'm guessing mechanical
16:52 < vader-> ya
16:52 < sideup66> It's not bad, though I might suggest you push them into a ssd
16:52 < sideup66> Keep it nice and snappy for a while
16:52 < sideup66> Or get something with one
16:52 < sideup66> Shouldn't need a crazy high end one, a cheap one will do
16:53 < JollyRoger`> Certainly looks better than both my laptops put together, and my old laptop usually is enough to happily run a browser, chat and E-mail, and it's only got 3GB of RAM and an older Intel Core 2 Duo.
16:53 < vader-> it is for a side project im trying
16:54 < JollyRoger`> Oh wow.
16:54 < vader-> my wife's uncle has MS and is completely paralyzed except for the use of 1 finger which he is losing the remaining 5% movement he has left
16:54 < vader-> so i bought this Tobii Eye Tracker
16:54 < vader-> used for gaming
16:54 < vader-> because he uses an ipad with a special thing i made for his finger
16:55 < JollyRoger`> Oh wow. Assistive technologies!
16:55 < vader-> but with the loss of movement he is getting to the point where he can't use it
16:55 < vader-> so im going to try eye tracking technology
16:55 < vader-> ive been playing with it on my computer
16:55 < vader-> and it's kinda cool
16:55 < vader-> new Windows 10 1803 has a bunch of new eye control tech in it
16:56 < vader-> i am trying to find an AIO that they can put on a stand and wheel over his bed
16:56 < vader-> this one doesn't have a VESA mount
16:56 < vader-> but i think i can maybe fabricate something
16:57 < JollyRoger`> Wow. That's really cool. Computers for those who can't move their hands!
16:57 < vader-> yup
16:57 < vader-> Tobii makes eye tracker shit
16:58 < vader-> the pro real deal stuff is like $3k
16:58 < JollyRoger`> I like it!
16:58 < JollyRoger`> Yikes!
16:58 < vader-> this one i got is for gamers
16:58 < vader-> and was $150
16:58 < vader-> hehe
16:58 < vader-> he doesn't have any money
16:58 < vader-> because of his condition he is in a facility that takes care of him and they take 100% of any money he has
16:58 < JollyRoger`> Oh yikes :(!
16:58 < vader-> ya sucks
16:58 < JollyRoger`> Yeah :(.
16:58 < vader-> this guy is one of the nicest dudes i know
16:59 < vader-> and he has really been dealt a shitty hand
16:59 < vader-> so im trying to help him
16:59 < JollyRoger`> Well hot damn I will have my fingers crossed for you! Something like that could really improve quality of life for him.
16:59 < vader-> ya
16:59 < JollyRoger`> Please let me know how it goes!
16:59 < vader-> he only has like 10-20% of his voice left too
16:59 < JollyRoger`> Oh jeez!
16:59 < vader-> ya it really sucks
17:00 < vader-> terrible disease
17:00 < JollyRoger`> I'm surprised they haven't found some kind of cure or some kind of treatment for Multiple Sclerosis... I remember hearing about it in school and we raised funds, campaigned, and... that was a long time ago :( .
17:00 < vader-> there is different versions
17:00 < vader-> they can't cure it
17:00 < JollyRoger`> Oh :(.
17:00 < vader-> but ddepending on what you have they can slow it down
17:01 < vader-> basically you body attacks itself
17:01 < vader-> and it destroys some sort of protien that covers your nerves
17:01 < JollyRoger`> Oh god. :(.
17:01 < Hempux> The children of Atom seem like a bunch of loonies
17:01 < vader-> once that is destroyed the brain can't communicate
17:01 < JollyRoger`> Oh yikes :(.
17:01 < JollyRoger`> That's horrible.
17:01 < vader-> so basically that limb or whatever stops functioning
17:02 < vader-> ya it is crazy
17:02 < vader-> they have some real experimental shit where they do kemo and shut down your immune system, then they inject stem cells back in
17:03 < vader-> and the protein on the nerves regenerate
17:03 < JollyRoger`> Wow. That sounds like something out of science fiction.
17:03 < vader-> but when they do that it's highly dangerous
17:03 < JollyRoger`> Jeez :(.
17:03 < vader-> because you have no protection to other shit hehe
17:03 < vader-> can't win
17:03 < JollyRoger`> Yeah... DX. Aaargh.
17:06 < JollyRoger`> Well... I've got a systems administration question if anyone's got time. Has anyone here done SSH to a server's Baseboard Management Console over RS232 connected to a 10 pin IDC socket from a PC?
17:07 < vader-> hehe nope
17:07 < JollyRoger`> I recently bought a new PC, and uh... I ended up getting WAY more than I bargained for.
17:08 < JollyRoger`> I wanted to get away from the Intel Management Engine... but now I need to figure out how to change the Baseboard Management Controller factory password.
17:09 < JollyRoger`> I don't have it yet but I downloaded the manual and this thing's not quite clear on how to do that so now I'm freaking out.
17:12 < JollyRoger`> They definitely did not target the "Home User" market here.
17:14 < darkscrypt> JollyRoger`: are you the real JollyRgrs.... or are you just trying to confuse people intentionally?
17:14 < JollyRoger`> What? No.
17:15 < JollyRoger`> My name's Pete, I live in Canada. Unless the other JollyRgrs in this channel also is named Pete and lives in Canada.
17:15 < JollyRoger`> I'm a part-time hobbyist and not a professional system administrator.
17:16 < darkscrypt> was just confused as to why you would pick a name for the channel so close to somebody elses. a mod no less
17:16 < darkscrypt> seemed like a trolling thing
17:16 < JollyRoger`> Oh. I've had this moniker since I was a kid. I grew up playing pirate and just... never stopped.
17:17 < darkscrypt> oh okay :)
17:17 < darkscrypt> nick collision accepted.
17:17 < JollyRoger`> Thanks X).
17:17 < JollyRoger`> I'm a huge fan of Alestorm, which is probably why.
17:19 < darkscrypt> never heard of it
17:19 < JollyRoger`> Oh man. Hehehe, you're about to. Give me a moment.
17:19 < JollyRoger`> https://youtube.com/watch?v=GTyMhv7MCCs
17:20 < JollyRoger`> "Countless years ago, while lost in barren seas! There whispered murmurs of a bloody mutiny! We took up arms and slayed the officers of rank, and with swords drawn made the captain walk the plank!"
17:21 < darkscrypt> have you been playing that new rareware game
17:21 < darkscrypt> sea of thieves?
17:21 < JollyRoger`> I haven't :(. I uh...
17:21 < JollyRoger`> I don't have Windows anymore, :(.
17:21 < darkscrypt> xbox or ps4
17:21 < JollyRoger`> Oh. I don't have either of those :(.
17:21  * JollyRoger` weeps. 
17:22 < darkscrypt> oh its not even on ps4
17:22 < darkscrypt> so what made you dump windows?
17:22 < JollyRoger`> I used to be a big PC gamer, but then I took a Privacy Awareness To The Knee.
17:22 < darkscrypt> oh. i'm not really that concerned about privacy issues surrounding windows.
17:23 < darkscrypt> i've looked into the telemetry data.
17:23 < JollyRoger`> Yeah. I decided to install Qubes-OS and disconnected my Windows drive. But then when I wanted to go back a year later, I plugged in my Windows drive and...
17:23 < JollyRoger`> I found it wouldn't boot.
17:23 < darkscrypt> i just lost a lot of windows licenses.
17:24 < JollyRoger`> Oh. :(
17:24 < darkscrypt> i had bizspark, and so i reformatted a few laptops with linux for some testing.
17:24 < JollyRoger`> Oh god. And... and the keys are gone? :(
17:24 < darkscrypt> and then they cancelled bizspark and there went all my win10 licenses
17:24 < JollyRoger`> Whaaaaa--!?
17:24 < darkscrypt> yeah, with bizspark i had nearly unlimited activations
17:24  * JollyRoger` cries into his tankard of grog. 
17:24 < darkscrypt> of win10. so i reformatted laptops i had with legitimate keys without concern of getting them back, since i had a lot
17:25 < JollyRoger`> Oh man :(.
17:25 < darkscrypt> bizspark was a program from microsoft. sorta like dreamspark
17:25 < JollyRoger`> Got it. That's how I got my Windows licenses too.
17:25 < darkscrypt> but they just suddenly cancelled the program with no warning, and any redeemed keys i had that were not installed.
17:25 < JollyRoger`> Oh no :(.
17:25 < darkscrypt> just disappeared
17:26 < JollyRoger`> Sheesh!
17:27 < JollyRoger`> Well... I've gotten stuck with a Windows drive that won't boot. I'd reformat it and clean it off but... now I have no idea where my license key is. I put it away in a little metal moneybox I have for keeping license stickers and such but... I can't find it after I packed it up to move.
17:27 < darkscrypt> so i had a drive laying around from a different laptop, and i'm trying to see if it boots on my main laptop. it sorta boots and then hits recovery. I may be able to boot it.
17:27 < darkscrypt> yeah, i hate dealing with licenses
17:27 < JollyRoger`> Oh wow. Fingers crossed!
17:27 < JollyRoger`> Yeah.
17:27 < darkscrypt> i seriously hate hate hate dealing with licenses.
17:28 < JollyRoger`> So the drive with Windows on it is sort of... I stuck it in the bottom of my PC and it's in limbo now.
17:28 < darkscrypt> i have no problem buying and paying for software, but i don't want to keep track of licenses.
17:28 < JollyRoger`> Oh man. I believe it. I'm only one home user, and license activation drives me up the wall.
17:29 < darkscrypt> oh this is all just personal stuff
17:29 < JollyRoger`> That little metal moneybox I had with all the CD keys went missing, and that suddenly means all of my games, except for the ones that use online activation are dead.
17:29 < darkscrypt> for work stuff i don't doeal with licenses.
17:29 < JollyRoger`> Oh whew.
17:29  * JollyRoger` breathes a sigh of relief!
17:29 < darkscrypt> we have an ea agreement. basically have all the software
17:29 < JollyRoger`> Oh wow.
17:30 < darkscrypt> and i think we have a department somewhere that manages licenses for other stuff
17:30 < darkscrypt> we have like 50 IT departments or something
17:30 < JollyRoger`> Wow. Holy crap you know that licensing agreements are a Really Big Deal when there needs to be an entire separate department with paid staff just to manage them!
17:30 < darkscrypt> hahaha. well. its a large enterprise.
17:31 < darkscrypt> we have 30k employees and 1k IT related staff
17:31 < JollyRoger`> TRIPLE wow. :S
17:34 < JollyRoger`> The nightmare of trying to manage all those PCs boggles my mind :S.
17:36 < JollyRoger`> Some of these days, I can't even manage three >_<.
17:38 < JollyRoger`> Once I had my laptop's fan crap out at the same time my PC's graphics card (and I mean this very literally) went up in smoke, but my old laptop was down because I managed to blow up the operating system by mistake...
17:44 <+CheckYourSix> You would think companies would make licensing agreements simple
17:45 < sideup66> CheckYourSix: I think they want to, but many times in larger firms expensive lawyers get involed
17:45 < sideup66> Then you get what you get
17:47 <+CheckYourSix> Tell me about it. I work for $megacorp. They are out of control. As an example, some years ago, we wanted to sign a contract to use a vendor for some training our people needed. It was a big deal. $megacorp lawyers were like no, you can't sign their contract. They rewrote the contract and wanted the vendor to sign OUR agreement.... Almost 3 years total in order to get it settled and the vendor finally signed ours instead of us
17:47 <+CheckYourSix> signing theirs...
17:48 < JollyRoger`> Goodness >_<.
17:48 <+CheckYourSix> That's why I hate working at megacorps...
17:50 < coderphive> jesus
17:50 < coderphive> That's stupid
17:50 <+CheckYourSix> Well, when you involve lawyers...
17:50 < coderphive> We have lawyers, they aren't that dumb
17:51 <+CheckYourSix> $megacorps can't get out of their own way. It's a wonder they make money
17:51 < threwahway> c6's story wasnt about dumb lawyers
17:51 < coderphive> The worst I've had is teaching our board about FOSS
17:51 < coderphive> I had a destroy an anti-foss culture when I got here
17:51 <+CheckYourSix> I laugh at it all and I just wonder how many billions (yes billions) more we would profit if stupid shit like that didn't happen and the endless red tape went away
17:52 < JollyRoger`> Sheesh >_<.
17:52 <+CheckYourSix> Well a company at that scale, making stupid wasteful shit happen across every department...
17:54 < coderphive> Heyo, I finally got ##sre registered
17:58 < JollyRoger`> CheckYourSix, yeah... I remember when I worked at a big company, they negotiated lease deals for PCs with Hewlett Packard.
17:59 < JollyRoger`> They'd spend six or eight thousand dollars over three years for these shitty PCs, after which, the PCs had to be returned and the lease renewed. Those PCs were worth far, far less in their parts.
18:00 < JollyRoger`> I'm guessing they wanted the reassurance that if anything went wrong they could just call the service technician who would drop off a new PC at the end of the week and take it back without asking too many questions.
18:00 < JollyRoger`> *and take the broken one back
18:00 <+CheckYourSix> Yeah. We have a contract with Dell. Probably the same general thing
18:00 < JollyRoger`> Yeah.
18:01 <+CheckYourSix> 4 year lease terms
18:01 <+CheckYourSix> Shitty laptops
18:01 < JollyRoger`> Jeez >_<
18:01 < darkscrypt> its weird leasing technology imo
18:01 < JollyRoger`> Oh yeah.
18:01 < darkscrypt> you end up paying a lot more i think
18:01 < JollyRoger`> Oh yeah.
18:01 < darkscrypt> at least in my limited experience.
18:01 <+CheckYourSix> 1366x769 screens and hybrid SSD/HDD drives...
18:02 < JollyRoger`> Boy oh boy did we ever have problems with them. Those things must have been made by some third-rate contractor.
18:02 < darkscrypt> i came into a job at a school where they leased a laptop cart from cdw for an elementary school
18:02 < JollyRoger`> Since I had my power supply explode multiple times when the graphics card sucked up all the power.
18:04 < JollyRoger`> Each time it happened the system administrator would take my PC, give me a loaner for the rest of the week, and by next week I'd get an identical PC.
18:04 < JollyRoger`> At that rate I couldn't help but think, why not just buy a better quality PSU with more headroom?
18:07 < vavkamil> hey'
18:07 < vavkamil> I tried discord today and it's so weird I had to uninstall it
18:07 < JollyRoger`> Ouch!
18:08 < threwahway> if youre not le gamer its le useless
18:08 < JollyRoger`> I dunno man. Discord is a really big memory hog. You'd think that something for gamers would be small and lightweight and easy on RAM.
18:19 < darkscrypt> discord runs fine een on my little netbook
18:22 < JollyRoger`> Oh wow. Huh, that's lucky.
18:22 < Casteil> jesus christ
18:23 < JollyRoger`> Been a long time since I used it. Some of my friends invited me to it, and I used it for a bit then went back to IRC.
18:28 < stairmast0r> anyone else enjoying these nice outages with fios?
18:38 < sideup66> Gah comcrap sucks
18:38 < sideup66> We cut cable a while back (use rokus with streaming, cheaper than the cable box), and I think Comcast is turning off our access to tv things now
18:39 < sideup66> C'mon guys...don't drive me to pirates stuff if I can login to Comcast and use the official app from that network
18:44 < gavit> my php values in fpm dont seem to work
18:47 < sideup66> It's stupid
18:47 < sideup66> All that does is advocate a user to pirate
18:47 < sideup66> Because it's easier to pirate than be legal...let people watch shows with ads
18:48 < coderphive> Sinclair owns you
18:48 < JollyRoger`> Arr!
18:49 < coderphive> ALL ABOARD USS SINCLAIR
18:49 < sideup66> JollyRoger`: I'm being serious actually
18:49 < JollyRoger`>  /me nods.
18:49 < coderphive> Just get Hulu TV
18:49 < JollyRoger`> I believe it!
18:49 < sideup66> I wanna watch livepd
18:49 < sideup66> Basically cops 2.0
18:50 < JollyRoger`> They won't let you?
18:51 < sideup66> It's weird, my dad is having problems with the account too
18:52 < sideup66> I downloaded the a&e app to Roku (network it's on), says okay activate it
18:52 < sideup66> Go to sign into Comcast to set it, and I can't.
18:52 < sideup66> Dad says he can't either all of a suxxent to get into the hotspots
18:52 < sideup66> Sudden*
18:53 < sideup66> So we're wondering if Comcast is throwing a f u at cord cutters by shutting all that off to Internet only people
18:58 < JollyRoger`> Wow. >_<.
18:58 < JollyRoger`> sideup66, I believe it. They're Comcast, that strikes me as the exact sort of thing they would do.
19:08 < m4221> Hey
19:08 < JollyRoger`> Hi!
19:09 < m4221> It is hot out, but I am outside relaxing in my Adirondack chair
19:09 < JollyRoger`> It's too hot to go outside where I am right now in the alleged land of ice and snow :(.
19:20 < misspwn> he gets mad
19:20 < misspwn> *
19:20 < misspwn> damnit i get mad. it is 100F
19:23 < coderphive> JollyRoger`: actually live in Mejico
19:23 < coderphive> I feel like my IRC client is broke
19:24 < misspwn> maybe its an irc wall
19:24 < coderphive> haha nah
19:24 < misspwn> blocking ur porrts
19:24 < coderphive> o i c wat u did ther
19:24 < JollyRoger`> coderphive, jeez >_<. I know that feeling! You could put a raw chicken out on the front porch and then pull it back in after a couple hours and it would be fully steamed and cooked!
19:25 < coderphive> That is texas irl rn
19:25 < misspwn> SC as well, you can fry an egg on the sidewalk. * i used foil*
19:26 < coderphive> Texas: "Let me cook that chicken for you" Me: "Nah, I'm just walking into the house with groceries" Texas: "Too late."
19:26 < JollyRoger`> yiiiikes >_<!
19:26 < misspwn> hahahah
19:26 < misspwn> texas is just doin you a solid
19:27 < traaak> its insanely hot in chicago atm
19:27 < misspwn> do you need assistance bruh?
19:28 < DoctorDick> You try turning off the sun?
19:28  * JollyRoger` looks for the "POWER CYCLE" button for the sun :P.
19:28 < misspwn> just look straight at it
19:30  * JollyRoger` puts his eclipse shades on first. :P.
19:30 < Sousapro> Put sunblock in your eyes and then look straight at it
19:30 < Sousapro> Because that's a thing that happened
19:30 < misspwn> wat??
19:31 < Sousapro> https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2017/08/26/for-the-eclipse-people-put-sunscreen-on-their-eyeballs/#b55f8ef5047a
19:31  * JollyRoger` goes *blink blink* complete with playing the chords on a xylophone.
19:31 < Sousapro> Apparently it's unproven but I'd believe it
19:31 < Sousapro> Users leave their password as Hunter1
19:32 < Sousapro> So this isn't that far fetched
19:32 < misspwn> what the actual fuck
19:32 < misspwn> i believe that someone has done it
19:33 < DoctorDick> All I see is *******
19:34 < m4221> Sousapro: users just leave there passwords on a postit under the keyboard
19:34 < m4221> Their(
19:34 < m4221> Their*
19:35 < m4221> Hey misspwn
19:35 < misspwn> hay m4221 '
19:35 < ic3cube> anyone good with cert auth for laptops wireless and nps?
19:35 < Sousapro> ic3cube: go ahead and ask your question
19:35 < m4221> misspwn: how goes it?
19:36 < Sousapro> ic3cube: the answer will usually involve group policy and a domain CA
19:36 < ic3cube> A good implimentation guide.
19:36 < m4221> ic3cube: use the force? :P
19:36 < Sousapro> Do you already have a domain CA?
19:37 < ic3cube> We have a domain, ca, gpos.  I just need the laptops to connect to the wireless as soon as it turns on.  Then the user can auth when they login
19:37 < misspwn> m4221, it goes okay as long as it's quiet in the house
19:37 < Sousapro> ic3cube: add the network to the machine via GPO
19:37 < misspwn> enjoying sunday in my pjs, ate some garbage mcd brekafast since i was out of potatoes
19:38 < Sousapro> ic3cube: maybe something like this https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/810638-gpo-for-freshly-deployed-machines-to-join-wpa2-enterprise-wi-fi
19:38 < m4221> I need to get my lazy butt to the washing machine
19:38 < JollyRoger`> Oof >_< .
19:39 < Sousapro> Sorry I'm on a motorcycle ride today and only have my cellphone to research with
19:39 < misspwn> wash all the clothes
19:39 < Sousapro> Wife is on her bike and giving me the look
19:39 < Sousapro> Oops
19:39 < m4221> Swordsmanship class has been sore
19:40 < misspwn> the laptop to connect to wireless as soon as it turns on, why would you need that?
19:40 < misspwn> i mean i can see why someone would want that but you still have to auth anyway
19:41 < misspwn> and if you have it auto authenticate that would be a security thing
19:41 < traaak> he didn't like your answers
19:42 < misspwn> :(
19:42 < Sousapro> I've got my laptops set to connect to wireless as soon as you give it credentials and then validate the credentials, connect to wireless and then run gpo before signing in
19:43 < Sousapro> If there's still help needed, I can dump my wireless policy tonight
19:43 < Sousapro> Now I really am going to go before I am murdered
19:43 < Sousapro> Later
19:43 < JollyRoger`> Luck!
19:43 < JollyRoger`> Ride safe!
19:43 < Sousapro> Thanks
19:45 < adamb> if you use machine auth it means logged out systems can still get patches, gpo updates etc., just make sure to stick them in a restricted VLAN
19:54 < m4221> My lazy ass will do laundry by 1930 UTC
20:00 < ic3cube> Sousapro Sorry I had to jump off for a min.   The machine is on the network.  I have to setup the NPS server to accept the cert
20:01 < traaak> i think Sousapro had to jet- not sure if he's still here. he said he'd be back later to help if you needed
20:40 < DLSteve> Anyone use Forgerock for Identity management?
20:48 < DrEmmettBrown> Heyo
21:59 < Torin> anybody have dell perc h310 and esxi? do you happen to see long load 'megaraid_sas' time when booting up?
22:39 < spstarr> Tavares!!!!!!
23:28 < dragonfleas> I uninstalled Hexchat
23:28 < dragonfleas> Is Quassel decent?
23:36 < Sousapro> Anyone have any suggestions for laser printers around the house that isn't a brother?
23:36 < adamb> Torin: what version? How long? Had some systems that took 30 minutes to boot due to some broadcom FCoE madness
23:36 < Sousapro> LED laser printers hurt my eyes lol
23:39 < dragonfleas> What are some other good freenode IRC channels?
23:40 <@JollyRgrs> Sousapro: stop staring into them!
23:40 < dragonfleas> Sousapro, that's how you get cataracts
23:41 < Sousapro> I mean the print quality lol
23:41 < dragonfleas> god i have no idea how to use xchat
23:41 < dragonfleas> I want to change my text to a different color and I can't get it to change from gray
23:41 < adamb> eveyone ends up on irssi eventually
23:42 < dragonfleas> Wait
23:42 < dragonfleas> do they have irssi for windows?
23:42 < adamb> yup
23:42 < adamb> install the ubuntu 4 windows thing
23:42 < dragonfleas> nice
23:42 < dragonfleas> I wonder if best buy is open on sundays
23:43 <@JollyRgrs> yes
23:43 < dragonfleas> I kinda wanna go pick up a cheap 1tb hard drive
23:43 <@JollyRgrs> until 6 usually
23:43 <@JollyRgrs> on sundays
23:43 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: you SSH into your irssi/weechat session
23:43 <@JollyRgrs> that's what i do
23:45 < Sousapro> I'm at best buy right now lol
23:45 < dragonfleas> lol
23:46 < dragonfleas> all their western digital drives above 1tb are 5400
23:46 < dragonfleas> gross
23:53 < ad-kadhamw__> Reeee had to get to work at 5:00am to "backup a database". Still yet to be asked to backup said database ;_;
23:53 < ad-kadhamw__> And it is like 8:00am
23:54 < dragonfleas> Lmao
23:54 < ad-kadhamw__> My brain hurts
23:55 < Ayeitzabee> I hate everyone and everything atm
23:55 < Torin> adamb: i8, but my mate confirmed that too. so all 'good'
23:56 < Torin> just asking as i think it might be causing some problems at my lab
23:58 < strive> Is this channel OS specific?
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