--- Log opened Mon Jul 02 00:00:21 2018
00:02 < pcspkr> yes only freebsd allowed
00:03 < Torin> win95
00:03 <@cryptic1> BeOS
00:04 < JollyRoger`> Yeah, sorry strive, it's just for VAX/VMS.
00:04  * JollyRoger` immediately gets a pie in the face.
00:05 < pcspkr> oracle unbreakable linux
00:06 <@cryptic1> mandrake linux
00:12  * JollyRoger` wipes the remains of the pie off his face and hat. 
00:20 <@JollyRgrs> strive: TempleOS and HannahMontana Linux are only supported OS in here
00:23 < adamb> Wait, I thought the channel CEO went to a trade show then decreed ChromeOS and g-suite only
00:24 <@cryptic1> it changes by the hour
00:24 <@cryptic1> typical ceo
00:24 <@cryptic1> he came in asking about blockchain and how we can use it
00:25 <@cryptic1> wanted to rename the channel to #reddit-sysadmin-blockchain
00:25 <@cryptic1> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/27/bofh_2018_episode_7/
00:26 < adamb> a block on a chain sounds like a perfect LART to me
00:26 < DoctorDick> Whoa whoa whoa
00:26 < DoctorDick> I only use RebeccaBlackLinux
00:26 < Hempux> adamb, or a weapon? :P
00:26 < Ayeitzabee> DoctorDick, Love the name
00:27 < DoctorDick> Me love you long time
00:29 < JollyRoger`> Heheheheehe. A block on a chain X). I should make one and hang it in my office as a "Blockchain."
00:30 <@cryptic1> yeeeeeesssss
00:30 < adamb> It's an essential tool for ensuring consensus
00:30 < JollyRoger`> Bwahahaahaha X).
00:35 < Hempux> Well, time for bed
00:35 < Hempux> Goodnight everoyne
00:36 < m4221> Hey
00:36 < m4221> Does anyone study Hapkido?
00:39 < dragonfleas> Just joined ##windows-server thinking that they might be cool
00:39 < dragonfleas> They're nazi's in there
00:39 < millendra> what happen?
00:39 < DoctorDick> Literal Nazis?
00:39 < DoctorDick> Were heil Hitlering?
00:40 < dragonfleas> I went in there, asking about how many of them use linux as opposed to windows, and one of the admins said "Stay on-topic of Windows, don't discuss off topic material or you'll be subject to a kick"
00:40 < dragonfleas> what the fuck
00:41 < millendra> dont they know we're supposed to like each other now
00:41 < millendra> they prob didnt get the memo
00:41 < DoctorDick> Linux is the worst
00:41 < DoctorDick> It literally never crashes
00:41 < DoctorDick> How else are we going to create jobs?
00:42 < millendra> i use ubuntu for desktop
00:42 < millendra> theres some wierd graphical glitch that happens in chrome
00:43 < DLSteve> DoctorDick, I haven't really had Windows crash where it was Windows fault, usually some shoddy driver.
00:43 < m4221> DoctorDick: trolling them now
00:44 < DoctorDick> I should join this channel y'all are on
00:44 < m4221> millendra: I asked them "Does Windows Server have a subsystem for Linux or i5/OS?"
00:45 < millendra> you mean like HyperV?
00:46 < m4221> Nah, like as400
00:46 < millendra> or you mean native shell?
00:46 < millendra> i dont see how thats offtopic
00:49 < DLSteve> dragonfleas, weq is a power tripping asshat.
00:49 < dragonfleas> LOL
00:49 < DLSteve> #windows is the same.
00:50 < dragonfleas> That's exactly how he acted
00:50 < DLSteve> ##windows
00:50 < DLSteve> no I see it all the time as I lurk in those channels. Like there are more lines of text of him bitching about people being off topic than there are actual on topic conversations.
00:51 < millendra> with the current state of everything, i dont see how cant at least mention linux lol
00:52 < millendra> especially does Windows have this feature that nix does?
00:52 < dragonfleas> I'm going to just go in there and spam ASCII art'
00:52 < DoctorDick> "Linux can do X, why can't Windows?"
00:53 < dragonfleas> Can someone add weq to hugebuttholes.com
00:54 < DoctorDick> I can't believe that's a thing
01:02 < darkscrypt> i want to join and send a huge ascii of tux now
01:10 < darkscrypt> I should create a company called AdventureWorks or Contoso
01:10 < darkscrypt> so much advertising already done lol
01:20 < Hunterkll> loool
01:20 < Hunterkll> rekt
01:20 < Hunterkll> see
01:20 < Hunterkll> linux isnt safe
01:20 < Hunterkll> open sores is insecure
01:20 < Hunterkll> https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2018/06/29/linux-distro-hacked-on-github-all-code-considered-compromised/
01:20 < DLSteve> Contoso throws me off as it's close to Costco.
01:21 < DLSteve> Hunterkll, "The Gentoo GitHub repository is only a secondary copy of the main Gentoo source code. The main Gentoo repository is intact."
01:21 < adamb> Headline: LINuX DISTRO HACKED ALL CODE COMPROMISED
01:22 < adamb> Article: Actually, code not compromised
01:22 < DLSteve> Only insane people and Stallman use Gentoo anyway.
01:22 <@cryptic1> real admin can stay they compiled stage 1 gentoo
01:23 <@cryptic1> ^ epeen enhanced
01:23 < DLSteve> I too was a 1337 h@x0r when I was 13.
01:24 < DLSteve> Then I'm like "this bullshit is taking too long to compile. I just want binaries".
01:24 < adamb> Nothing like waiting 2 days for an "emerge -DunAV world" to complete because you found a new cflag
01:27 < dragonfleas> Only real linux users use mint
01:32 < DoctorDick> Real linux users use Rebecca Black Linux
01:36 < DLSteve> DoctorDick, Gotta go old school with http://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/
01:39 < adamb> https://sourceforge.net/projects/rebeccablackos/ "77 Downloads this week" "Last update: 23 hours ago"
01:39 < adamb> u wot m8
01:39 < DoctorDick> That was all me
01:39 < Hunterkll> open sores is bad for security
01:40 < Hunterkll> DLSteve, for some of my hardware binary distros just literally don't exist
01:40 < Hunterkll> so it's pretty muchg gentoo or roll it myself
01:41 < adamb> sounds like you need a mac
01:41 < Hunterkll> adamb, that's actually the problem
01:41 < Hunterkll> it's a powerbook G4 :P
01:42 < adamb> sounds like you need a better mac
01:42 < Hunterkll> nah
01:42 < Hunterkll> i have almost all the G4 mac models
01:42 < Hunterkll> even the xserve
01:43 < Hunterkll> i don't have an eMac or a cube yet tho .... but i've got lamp style, regular style, etc
01:43 < Hunterkll> well, okay, the regular style is a G5 and acts as a gentoo build server but still
01:43 <+TuxedoJack> You too?
01:43 < Hunterkll> completely by accident
01:43 <+TuxedoJack> 2x Power Mac G4s, 1x G4 Cube, 1x iMac G4, 1x eMac
01:43 <+TuxedoJack> All sitting downstairs
01:43 <+TuxedoJack> And all working
01:43 < Hunterkll> XServe manages my XSan environment that my hackintosh rackmacs render and edit on
01:43 < Hunterkll> lol
01:44 < Hunterkll> iBook G4, PowerBook G4 x2, iMac G4 lamp style x2, RackMac1,1, iMac G5
01:44 < DLSteve> I have a Rev.A iMac G3 back at my parents house.
01:45 < DLSteve> My Uncle was still using a PowerMac G4 as his daily driver up until 4 years ago lol.
01:45 < Hunterkll> TuxedoJack, the PowerBook G4 I use primarily is the 17" 1.33ghz maxed with 2GB ram .... also has a 128GB SSD in it
01:45 < DLSteve> I think he gave up when Google stoped working with IE 5.5
01:45 < Hunterkll> was quite happy that mSATA to laptop IDE adapters exist
01:45 < Hunterkll> lol
01:49 < sodj1> does anyone use chocolatey in their environments?
01:51 <+TuxedoJack> I have a 17" Powerbook G4 on my desk right now running 10.4.11, too
01:51 <+TuxedoJack> Heh
01:52 <@cryptic1> sodj1, i doubt it
01:53 < sodj1> why's that?
01:53 < Church-> TuxedoJack: Those old powerbooks are nice.
02:05 <+TuxedoJack> They're gorgeous
02:17 <+TuxedoJack> Our biggest client's Exchange cluster installs updates at 2:50 PM CST today, then staggered reboots
02:17 <+TuxedoJack> AND THE FUCKING THING DIDN'T COME BACK UP
02:17 <+TuxedoJack> And the goddamn tier 1 day shift tech didn't fucking call the sysadmins!
02:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> TuxedoJack: you've had a lot of back luck lately....
02:35 < sodj1> @cryptic1 not a fan of chocolatey or just isn't used 'round here?
02:37 <@cryptic1> I think most large businesses are going to use tools like sccm
02:41 <@cryptic1> I dont see the need for it if you already  leveraging sccm
02:42 <@cryptic1> Server deployments should already be templated/automated
02:43 <@cryptic1> Or am i missing some feature it has?
03:00 <+TuxedoJack> McDonaldsWiFi: the Sunday tech is about to get fired for this
03:01 <+TuxedoJack> He didn't do a damn thing on any other fucking tickets between 11 and 3, skipped scheduled tickets this morning, everything
03:06 <@cryptic1> McDonaldsWiFi, no thats how TuxedoJack's place rolls
03:07 < McDonaldsWiFi> my old job did that, it was all fires
03:07 < McDonaldsWiFi> no such thing as preventing anything
03:28 < Ayeitzabee> Does anyone have a SMS template that can be used on IOS and android for appointments?
03:55 < coderphive> cryptic1 is fired
03:55 < coderphive> McDonaldsWiFi is hired
03:56 < coderphive> Honor your new overlords with a ritual bloodletting
03:56 <@cryptic1> you have been blessed
03:58 < millendra> why is sharepoint so bad
04:01 <@cryptic1> its bad and its useful
04:02 <@cryptic1> *sigh* an evil balance if there ever was one
04:03 < Nightcinder> it' sgood if you make it good
04:03 < Nightcinder> but it's always bad
04:08 < coderphive> ugh sharepoint
04:08 < coderphive> No thank you
04:09 < Hunterkll> millendra, sharepoint before 2013 was blah, 2013+ i actually like
04:11 < coderphive> Also fair to note, Hunterkll is a MS fanboi
04:12 < coderphive> I want to get rid of my desk and get a standing desk
04:13 < Hunterkll> coderphive, hard to be a fanboy of one specific thing when you use everything else equally as much :)
04:14 < coderphive> that's a lie tho
04:14 < Hunterkll> though seriously, fuck alfresco
04:14 < Hunterkll> it's not even a reasonable close competitor to sharepoint
04:14 < Hunterkll> and domino can be more effective than sharepoint, but i've never seen a well run installation
04:15 < coderphive> We just use confluence
04:15 < coderphive> Not the greatest imo
04:15 < Hunterkll> eh
04:15 < coderphive> but better than my memories of sharepoint
04:16 < Hunterkll> Confluence is also designed differently
04:16 < Hunterkll> though, i've seen a ticketing system implemented in sharepoint. that was .... painful
04:16 < Hunterkll> i could have done it better than it was, but even so, why would i when SCSM exists
04:17 < coderphive> oi
04:17 < coderphive> That's why being a dev is nice
04:17 < coderphive> Repo ticketing
04:17 < coderphive> and one big public facing issue board
04:17 < Hunterkll> yea pretty much every soolution has ticketing these days
04:17 < Hunterkll> lol
04:17 < coderphive> #keepingtheplebsout
04:44 < jay-ros> Howdy howdy howdy howdy
04:48 < jay-ros> Empty house?
04:49 <@cryptic1> yeap
04:49 <@cryptic1> Hunterkll took the night off
04:50 < jay-ros> Fair enough!
04:50 < jay-ros> It's always quiet here on a Monday morning (Au time)
04:50 < jay-ros> but usually enix and xe0n would be in by now
04:52 <@cryptic1> oh those guys got banned
04:53 <@cryptic1> they got crazy here earlier
04:54  * CheckYourSix mumbles about op abuse...
04:55  * CheckYourSix blames everything on cryptic1
04:55 <@cryptic1> sure blame the op
04:56 <+CheckYourSix> Only you and your tyranny :-P
04:56  * DrGibby| pees on cryptic1 
04:57 <@cryptic1> oh no
04:57 <@cryptic1> its DrGibby|
04:57  * DrGibby| has ran away
04:57 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, halp!
04:57 <@cryptic1> JollyRoger`, halp
04:57 <@JollyRgrs> no
04:57 <@cryptic1> wait which one is which
04:57  * cryptic1 is confused
04:57  * DrGibby| continues to pee on cryptic1 
04:57 <@cryptic1> ban him!
04:58 <+DrGibby|> :)
04:58 <+DrGibby|> at least I didn't dox someone
04:58 <+DrGibby|> just sayin
04:59 <@cryptic1> yet
04:59 <+DrGibby|> nah I don't do 13 year old shit
05:00 <+CheckYourSix> Who doxed someone
05:00 <@cryptic1> pfft since when?
05:00 <@cryptic1> CheckYourSix, you did
05:00 <+DrGibby|> last year
05:00 <@cryptic1> remember?
05:00 <+CheckYourSix> cryptic1: Pfft.
05:01 <+DrGibby|> also, hi there, cryptic1
05:01 <+DrGibby|> hope you're doing well <3
05:01 <@cryptic1> hey :)
05:01 < JollyRoger`> Hey cryptic1! Yeah, what's up?
05:01 <+DrGibby|> oh boy
05:01 <@cryptic1> wait which one is which?
05:02 <@cryptic1> who is the real JollyRogers?
05:02 < JollyRoger`> What happens if we both point at each other and say "He is!" ?
05:03 <@cryptic1> not sure
05:03 < catbeard> shoot the one on the left
05:03  * JollyRoger` starts blowing on a match. 
05:05 <@JollyRgrs> cryptic1: that's not me
05:05 < JollyRoger`> Yeah and I'm not him...
05:06 <@JollyRgrs> i'm the real JollyRgrs
05:06 <@cryptic1> but who are you
05:06 <@cryptic1> so confusing
05:06 < JollyRoger`> and I'm the real JollyRoger`...
05:06 <@cryptic1> not a clone of JollyRgrs ?
05:07 < JollyRoger`> Nope. If you want to, you can call me "Pete."
05:08 <@cryptic1> funny thats what JollyRgrs said earlier
05:08 < JollyRoger`> Unless by a freak coincidence his name is *also* Pete, in which case maybe I should refer to myself by my PGP short keyid.
05:08 < JollyRoger`> Oh god.
05:08 <@cryptic1> yeah exactly
05:09 < JollyRoger`> Okay uh...
05:09 <@JollyRgrs> wait, do you have a tattoo of a dancing lady on your arm?
05:09 < JollyRoger`> No, I have no tattoos.
05:09 <@JollyRgrs> are we the adventures of pete and pete?
05:09 < JollyRoger`> Oh my god.
05:09 < JollyRoger`> This... this is almost a comedy of errors.
05:11 < JollyRoger`> Well at least the good news is he's got an op's token and I don't so that's one easy way to tell us apart...?
05:11 <@cryptic1> unless
05:11 < misspwn> everyone is pete
05:11 < JollyRoger`> Oh god.
05:11 < JollyRoger`> Oh no now we are in trouble.
05:11 <@cryptic1> yes yes yeeees
05:11 < misspwn> you'd be in trouble if i had ops..
05:11 < misspwn> pls do not give meOP
05:12 < misspwn> hahhh
05:12 <@cryptic1> :P
05:12 < JollyRoger`> XP
05:12 < misspwn> i'd end up banning myself
05:12 < JollyRoger`> Ha!
05:13 < catbeard> i'd end up qban'ing
05:13 < catbeard> not sure if freenode ircd supports extban
05:13 < catbeard> practical alternative to +m
05:14 < catbeard> DOC
05:14 < catbeard> this is heavy
05:14 < DrEmmettBrown> lmao
05:15 <@cryptic1> too many doctors in here lately
05:15 < DrEmmettBrown> if i had a penny for every back to the future reference
05:15 < DrEmmettBrown> i'd be biff by now
05:15 <@cryptic1> DoctorDick, DrEmmettBrown, DrGibby|, drfoo, DrStalker
05:15 < catbeard> ya but you'd have a 70 year old Lorraine
05:15 < JollyRoger`> Hahahaha XD
05:16 < DrEmmettBrown> senile lorraine best lorraine
05:16 < DrEmmettBrown> why do my messages keep tabbing
05:18 <+DrGibby|> why was I pinged?
05:19 < catbeard> cryptic1's fear of medical science
05:19 <+DrGibby|> noted
05:20 < DrEmmettBrown> if i wanna be a doctor i wanna be a medieval odoctor
05:25 < misspwn> leeches bruh
05:26 < DrEmmettBrown> sweet medieval doctor
05:26 < DrEmmettBrown> bitcoins*
05:27 < jay-ros> I'd want to be Dr Jones from the Aqua song
05:28 < JollyRoger`> Oh god. Just when I thought I'd purged that song from my memory X(
05:29 < jay-ros>  dealing with adversity with an air of bravado, obvious risk-free adventures, hot chick on my side (also reflected in the moon), and catchy background theme music
05:31 < jay-ros> plus, I'm all about that summertime love in the moonlight
05:32 < jay-ros> "Ah-yippie I've been missin' you"
05:43 < jay-ros> OK, JollyRoger - fuck, marry, kill: Doctor Hawkeye Pierce from M.A.S.H, Doctor John Watson from Cumberbatch's version of Sherlock Holmes, and Dr Doom from the newer version of Fantastic Four
05:43 < JollyRoger`> Oh man. >_<. I haven't seen any of those... :(.
05:45 < DrEmmettBrown> kill doom, marry watson and fuck hawkeye
05:45 <+TuxedoJack> >Can you start verifying each other desktop in Austin office and San Antonio office is okay and shut it down? Please compile a list for reference.  I am headed to San Antonio office to aid in the process of clearing desktops if you have not already done so.
05:45 <+TuxedoJack> STUPID FUCKING CUNTWAFFLE
05:46 <+TuxedoJack> I am NOT cleaning up 400 desktops because your fucking president had a weak PW
05:46 < JollyRoger`> Whaa--?
05:46 < DrEmmettBrown> o h w o w
05:46 <+TuxedoJack> And let some dumb German fuck into the remote desktop server
05:46 <+DrGibby|> TuxedoJack: let me know if you need a SOC ;)
05:46 < jay-ros> DrEmmettBrown, this is the correct combination... although marrying Dr Doom might be better, because he dies at the end of the film and you'd inherit his money
05:46 <+TuxedoJack> DrGibby|: SOC?
05:46 < DrEmmettBrown> ayoooo
05:46 < jay-ros> NSA relationship
05:46 < DrEmmettBrown> not into people called doom tbh
05:47 <+DrGibby|> Security Operations Center
05:48 < DrEmmettBrown> is it normal that all my messages are tabbed forward
05:48 <+TuxedoJack> DrGibby|: honestly, if I had time to lock this shit down across 750 clients now, I wouldn't need that
05:48 <+DrGibby|> thats what a SOC does <3
05:48 <+TuxedoJack> But my fucking tier 1s and 2s are jackasses and I have to clean up for all these idiots
05:48 <+TuxedoJack> And I've been promised that for myself for a year now
05:48 <@cryptic1> leave that fucking place TuxedoJack
05:48 <+DrGibby|> ^^
05:49 < DrEmmettBrown> what's tier 1 and 2
05:49 <+TuxedoJack> Helldesk shitheads
05:49 <+TuxedoJack> And project team
05:49 <+DrGibby|> dumb and less dumb
05:49 < DrEmmettBrown> oh wow
05:49 <+TuxedoJack> No, dubm and fuckign dumber
05:49 <@cryptic1> tier 1 is usually helpdesk guy who answers phone/email
05:49 <+TuxedoJack> cryptic1: we have a call center for that shit
05:49 <+DrGibby|> kek
05:49 <+DrGibby|> dumb and dumber
05:49 <+TuxedoJack> Tier 1 should be doing fucking PW resets and shit like that
05:49 <+TuxedoJack> They sit on fucking Reddit and YouTube
05:49 <+TuxedoJack> And I don't have HR power
05:50 < DrEmmettBrown> best team
05:50 <+TuxedoJack> Tier 2 does 8 - 16 tickets a day usually
05:50 < JollyRoger`> TuxedoJack, billions of blue blistering barnacles!
05:50 <@cryptic1> no way in hell i would be doing password resets that shit is for helpdesk
05:50 < DrEmmettBrown> you should brigade their posts or something to get them outta there
05:50 <+TuxedoJack> Actually, I'm just going to put in content filters on the router
05:50 <+TuxedoJack> Fuck 'em
05:50 <@cryptic1> infact its automated so users can do it themselves
05:50 <+TuxedoJack> cryptic1: we can't do that across 750 clients
05:51 <+TuxedoJack> Believe me, I wish we could
05:51 < DrEmmettBrown> is there a sub for funny sysadmin stories
05:51 < JollyRoger`> I hope so!
05:51 < catbeard> https://clientsfromhell.net/random
05:52 < jay-ros> DrEmmettBrown, BOFH blog
05:52 < jay-ros> https://m.theregister.co.uk/data_centre/bofh/
05:52 < JollyRoger`> Hehehe. Every time I think about BOFH, I think about the PFY's paintball gun antics and start getting ideas :P.
05:52 < DrEmmettBrown> yay
05:52 < DrEmmettBrown> also i googled it and there's a subreddit
05:52 < DrEmmettBrown> oh my god this is gold tbh
05:52 < JollyRoger`> It is!
05:53 < DrEmmettBrown> i wanna go into sys administration even more now tbh
05:53 < JollyRoger`> Hahahahaha me too X).
05:53 < JollyRoger`> When I was in school I really wanted to make ether killers and put a couple out there... good thing I didn't :P.
05:53 < DrEmmettBrown> what's that
05:53 < DrEmmettBrown> i mean is it ether as in ethernet or ether as in the chemical
05:53 < Virtual-Potato> also there's
05:54 < Virtual-Potato>  /r/talesfromtechsupport
05:54 < JollyRoger`> Oh, it's when you splice a 120V plug into an ethernet cable.
05:54 < DrEmmettBrown> yeah that's the subreddit i meant
05:54 < DrEmmettBrown> oh my god that's awful
05:54  * JollyRoger` cracks up
05:54 < Virtual-Potato> JollyRoger`, ah yes, the etherkiller
05:54 <@cryptic1> thats more helldesk than anything
05:54 < Virtual-Potato> CLASSIC
05:54 < JollyRoger`> Hee hee hee XD
05:54 < Virtual-Potato> you know they made a whole bunch
05:54 < DrEmmettBrown> ok gimme more ideas so i can do some shit to the douchebag IT team at my school as a senior
05:55 < Virtual-Potato> http://www.fiftythree.org/etherkiller/
05:55 < Virtual-Potato> there's more than just the etherkiller
05:55 < JollyRoger`> Hehehe, killer USB sticks!
05:55 < Virtual-Potato> there's also VGAkiller
05:55 < DrEmmettBrown> oh my god
05:55 < DrEmmettBrown> o h m y f u c k i n g g o d w h y
05:56 < Virtual-Potato> DrEmmettBrown, this is what happens when a sysadmin gets bored
05:56 < JollyRoger`> Yes, hahahaha.
05:56 < Virtual-Potato> so yes, it's important to never let your sysadmins be bored
05:56 < DrEmmettBrown> ok i wanna be a sysadmin even more
05:56 < Virtual-Potato> no you don't
05:56 < DrEmmettBrown> oh yeah I do
05:56 < Virtual-Potato> wrong answer
05:56 < JollyRoger`> Hehehe. Reminds me of that BOFH Joke.
05:56 < JollyRoger`> "What protects the security and privacy of your E-mail?"
05:57 < DLSteve> Virtual-Potato, My friend almost got expelled for doing that lol.
05:57 < JollyRoger`> Haha XD
05:57 < Virtual-Potato> DLSteve, he should've gotten expelled
05:57 < JollyRoger`> "Two pints for the system administrator every Friday!"
05:57 < Virtual-Potato> damaging property
05:57 < Virtual-Potato> er, not damaging. That shit is irreversible
05:57 < DLSteve> Virtual-Potato, Early 2000s was a different time.
05:57 < Virtual-Potato> completely destroying property is more like it
05:58 < Virtual-Potato> My 'sysadmin' ( which was just a glorified librarian that happened to know computers ) at my old school yelled at me for writing a batch file
05:58 < Virtual-Potato> told me that I was hacking the system, and that was very wrong and I could get into real trouble
05:58 < DrEmmettBrown> yeah uh
05:58 < JollyRoger`> Grrrr >:(
05:59 < JollyRoger`> When I was in school someone I knew would bring a screwdriver into the computer room and would take the computers apart and steal RAM and such from them...
05:59 < DLSteve> To be fair we do the same thing to people in accounting...
05:59 < Virtual-Potato> that batch file? just opened IE and a few of the MS apps so I didn't have to click on 3 diff programs
05:59 < DLSteve> Why you run script?
05:59 < JollyRoger`> He got busted and got kicked out though.
05:59 < jay-ros> JollyRoger`, it's fairly close to that I feel. Over time, when I've been in roles where I'm planning to be there a short time, bandaid fixes and don't-give-a-fuck implementations are all the jazz.
05:59 < DrEmmettBrown> I may have managed to get the admin pass with a live usb cause they kept it on a txt file on the recovery partition god knows why
05:59 < DrEmmettBrown> no one knows it and it's the same for all pcs
05:59 < DrEmmettBrown> so i get to do anything i want
05:59 < jay-ros> When I feel like I'm planning on staying, I'm in the mindset of creating a legacy of an environment, so when I leave the place runs smoothly
06:00 < DLSteve> DrEmmettBrown, wait what?
06:00 < Virtual-Potato> I guessed the domain admin password
06:00 < Virtual-Potato> lol
06:00 < Virtual-Potato> it was hilarious
06:00 < DrEmmettBrown> yes great infosec skills
06:00 < DLSteve> DrEmmettBrown, Are they domain joined?
06:00 < JollyRoger`> jay-ros, I think I get what you mean!
06:00 < DrEmmettBrown> yeah afaik
06:00 < DrEmmettBrown> or they just use the same pass for all of them
06:00 < Virtual-Potato> so in my school they assigned each student a password. We couldn't change them but there was an obvious pattern
06:00 < JollyRoger`> Sheesh.
06:00 < jay-ros> JollyRoger`, make me want to stay and I'll do work for you. Reward me with a thank you and I'll give you another level of service.
06:01 < Virtual-Potato> so I guessed the domain password
06:01 < DLSteve> probably the initial account they use to join the computers to the domain.
06:01 < Virtual-Potato> let's just say a lot of remote shutdowns happened
06:01 < DrEmmettBrown> this is a test
06:01 < DrEmmettBrown> wait
06:01 < DrEmmettBrown> how do i do the action thingy
06:02 < jay-ros> DLSteve, most likely this.
06:02 < JollyRoger`> jay-ros, oh yeah. I gotta say... at the last place where I was and they had a dedicated IT department, I really wanted to make sure that the system administrators knew they were appreciated. Since I mean, I can only do my work if the computer works. Only way the computer will work is if the System Administrator makes it work.
06:02 < JollyRoger`> DrEmmettBrown, type "/me" and then your message.
06:02  * DrEmmettBrown test
06:02 < JollyRoger`> Yeah. It works!
06:02 < DrEmmettBrown> oh this is nice
06:02  * jay-ros nods approvingly
06:02 < DLSteve> jay-ros, could at lest be on a post-it note under the IT managers desk :P
06:02  * Virtual-Potato looks at DrEmmettBrown disapprovingly
06:02 < jay-ros> DLSteve - I like this one.
06:03  * DrEmmettBrown hit itself out of confusion
06:03 < DrEmmettBrown> ok i like this
06:03 < Virtual-Potato> what if I bring some of the /r/creepyasterisks vibe around here?
06:03 < DrEmmettBrown> do y'all have a discord server or is it only IRC
06:03 < DrEmmettBrown> NO PLEASE
06:03 < jay-ros> DLSteve - the best of these I had was moving into this company... the guy in my last role that I replaced moved on to a new business, and when he left I moved into his new business a little afterwards
06:03 < DrEmmettBrown> kill that sub with fire
06:03 < DrEmmettBrown> it's great for some laughs tho
06:04 < Virtual-Potato> We only use IRC
06:04 < Virtual-Potato> IRC is eternal
06:04 < DrEmmettBrown> irc doesn't crash randomly
06:04 < JollyRoger`> Yeah. I don't like Discord for a number of reasons.
06:04 < Virtual-Potato> I mean there are net splits....
06:04 < jay-ros> DLSteve (now in this office) - so he set a few systems up, and didn't document the password for a couple of them, so the guys were here trying to get into it
06:04 < jay-ros> ...dlsteve i threw in the admin passwords from the old company, and pop! in like flynn.
06:04 < DLSteve> JollyRoger`, As I'm basically in charge of every user account in the company I make demands rather than ask for things :P
06:05 < Virtual-Potato> and as always, there's a relevant xkcd
06:05 < Virtual-Potato> https://xkcd.com/1782/
06:05 < DLSteve> jay-ros, Haha
06:05 < JollyRoger`> DLSteve, Hehe, got it X).
06:05 < DrEmmettBrown> yeah I decided to try IRC because this server i was really into banned me because this one moderator had a grudge against me
06:05 < DrEmmettBrown> so I rage quit
06:05 < Virtual-Potato> DrEmmettBrown, what'd you do to piss them off
06:05 < DrEmmettBrown> absolutely nothing, I was offline at the time
06:05 < Virtual-Potato> uh huh sure
06:05  * Virtual-Potato bans DrEmmettBrown 
06:06 < JollyRoger`> I think if I am ever a System Administrator,
06:06 < DrEmmettBrown> haha funny
06:06 < JollyRoger`> I swear to all of you,
06:06 < JollyRoger`> I will bring a marlinspike into my office.
06:06 < DLSteve> JollyRoger`, I have been wanting to make a rule called "The Hole" for people who piss me off, cuts off email access and puts them on a 24 hour password expiration policy. Managment has not gone for it though :(
06:06 < Virtual-Potato> tf is a marlinspike?
06:06 < DrEmmettBrown> define marlinspike
06:06 < jay-ros> DLSteve - I drop their screen lockout to 10 minutes
06:07 < JollyRoger`> A marlinspike is a large pointed tool for splicing ropes... but it also makes a very good weapon.
06:07 < DLSteve> jay-ros, Sadly I don't control GPOs :(
06:07 < Virtual-Potato> JollyRoger`, but why would you want to bring one in
06:07 < DLSteve> jay-ros, Also my computer has a 3min lockout lol.
06:07 < jay-ros> DLSteve - I feel your pain. On both accounts
06:07 < Adagio> Marlinspike is also the name of a locale in "The Adventures of Tintin", if anyone gives a shit
06:07 < jay-ros> DLSteve - does it annoy you?
06:07 < Virtual-Potato> set the lockout to 10 sec just to watch the users suffer
06:08 < DLSteve> jay-ros, I actually set it that low.
06:08 < JollyRoger`> Virtual-Potato: it'd be a LART - and a sort of symbol of "mess up, and you get the Marlinspike."
06:08 < DLSteve> jay-ros, I work in IAM so if you leave your computer unlocked a co worker will mess with your shit to teach you a lesson.
06:08 < JollyRoger`> Since they were *also* used to keep ratings in line.
06:08 < Virtual-Potato> lol
06:08 < jay-ros> Ah, fair enough. If they'd locked it down on you I would've given you a task sequence to move your mouse 1px to the left/right alternating every 2minutes 55seconds
06:09 < DLSteve> jay-ros, Old VP would send the department your resignation letter from your email account if he saw it up.
06:09 < jay-ros> DLSteve - I set desktop backgrounds as Guy Fieri
06:09 < JollyRoger`> DLSteve, Hehe, "The Hole" would be a hilarious punishment for password reuse, haha X)
06:09 < DLSteve> jay-ros, Our departments go-to is David Hasselhoff.
06:10 < jay-ros> Nice.
06:10 < jay-ros> I would've also accepted randy savage or mrs. doubtfire with pie.
06:10 < DLSteve> It's called getting Hoffed if you leave your computer unlocked.
06:10 < DrEmmettBrown> i personally prefer gordon ramsay when im fooling around on unlocked pcs
06:10 < jay-ros> DrEmmettBrown - we're talking about desktop backgrounds, not 'personal time'
06:10 < JollyRoger`> Oh. I just go to Amazon.ca and start typing in the worst or most embarrassing keywords I can.
06:11 < DrEmmettBrown> o h w o w
06:11 < JollyRgrs> DLSteve: back when i worked for geek squad, ifi  was in the store and a store person had their email up and not logged out, i'd send an email to the store's DL saying "i'm buying $5 footlongs, pls send me your order by 11am so I can get it for you"
06:11 < DrEmmettBrown> wait i dont get it
06:11 < JollyRgrs> delete the sent item and wait
06:11 < DLSteve> haha
06:11 < JollyRoger`> XD
06:11 < jay-ros> JollyRgrs - yeah this one's common
06:14 < JollyRoger`> I wonder...
06:15 < JollyRoger`> I had floated the idea of using smartcards or smartkeys as a means of passwordless authentication as a potential idea for a home server the other day, until someone pointed out that that really leaves the people who are either smartphone dependent, or tablet dependent up the creek without a paddle.
06:15 < JollyRoger`> Given that you can get a bulk rate discount on those things, I wonder if the cost of implementing a system of smartcards like that for passwordless login and cardreaders on each PC would offset the cost of a data breach.
06:16 < misspwn> when the guys don't lock their computer at work, wallpaper gets changed to this https://orig00.deviantart.net/0c93/f/2013/196/c/2/smexy_unicorn_man_to_da_wesque_by_sissurrealatourium-d6doi9q.jpg possibly nsfw
06:16 < JollyRoger`> Oh man. I have a feeling I don't want to click that.
06:16 < misspwn> it's just the unicorn man
06:16 < misspwn> but i don't know what people can click on
06:16 < JollyRoger`> Oh, ha X)
06:16 < JollyRoger`> Okay!
06:17 < JollyRoger`> And I mean, just punch a hole in the side of the card reader and tie a lanyard around it. Then there's no excuse for leaving the smartkey plugged into the card reader.
06:17 < JollyRoger`> Er, punch a hole into the side of the smartcard and tie a lanyard
06:19 < DrEmmettBrown> are smartcards that usual on regular companies
06:19 < DrEmmettBrown> I always thought it was a heist movie kinda thing
06:20 < jay-ros> I know unicorn guy, that one's pretty good
06:21 < JollyRoger`> Yeah. I haven't seen any. But I can't help but think with the cost of data breaches just going sky-high and many of these data breaches being caused by password reuse and phishing... it seems like it would be a small price to pay for a lot of insurance.
06:21 < JollyRoger`> I mean, the technology's there. If I recall right Windows supports smartcard login somewhere buried deep in the Group Policy Editor somewhere.
06:22 < DrEmmettBrown> Maybe NFC tags made custom may be more cost efficient
06:22 < DrEmmettBrown> or swipable cards
06:24 < JollyRoger`> Possibly. I'm just thinking, if we trust the users to set their own passwords they set bad ones, reuse, or lose them, but even Grandma can understand that keys and credit cards are something that need to be kept safe and protected.
06:24 < DrEmmettBrown> you're right
06:24 < jay-ros> Having a fun day so far... I've palmed off my network work over to an expert external guy because I feel like my inexperience might fuck it up, I've palmed off my configuration of a file sharing application over to the vendor's expert so we 'make sure it's set up properly', I've palmed off my crappy troubleshooting/logging tasks to the PFY, and I took two days off last week to move home, so I cleaned up all my ongoing 'to do' tasks and
06:24 < jay-ros> postponed the two aforementioned projects to this week
06:24 < DrEmmettBrown> have you tried bringing it up to corporate or whatever
06:24 < JollyRoger`> Just a sec, I'll be back in a moment.
06:24 < DrEmmettBrown> alrighty
06:24 < JollyRoger`> (I have to bring in some stuff)
06:25 < jay-ros> ...in other words, i've delegated all of my work, and cleaned up all the little crappy parts already. I might go for a coke.
06:25 < DrEmmettBrown> lmao
06:43 < JollyRoger`> Hey DrEmmettBrown, sorry about that, I return. Well... I don't work in IT. But I definitely think if I did I'd probably write up some report and consider it. I've been thinking about it for my home server but that would only be for an experiment.
06:44 < DrEmmettBrown> well, in the case you get to work in IT you already have the experience and you could lead the team that would deploy the idea
06:44 < DrEmmettBrown> godspeed eitherway
06:45 < JollyRoger`> Hehe, thanks X). I don't have experience yet, but I do love experimenting and trying out new stuff.
06:46 < DrEmmettBrown> trying and failing is the best way to learn
06:46 < DrEmmettBrown> I learned a lot from messing with stuff and breaking it
06:46 < DrEmmettBrown> and managing to somehow fix it on my own
06:47 < JollyRoger`> Hehe, yeah X).
06:48 < DrEmmettBrown> So what's your home project about
06:49 < JollyRoger`> Oh. I've wanted to make a home server for my family for sharing files and E-mail, since my family is married to their E-mail.
06:49 < JollyRoger`> But I'm thinking worst case I may have to outsource the E-mail portion to a third-party provider because of the horror that E-mail is.
06:49 < Holo> JollyRoger`has lost his sanity
06:49 < DrEmmettBrown> oh boy
06:49 < Holo> email is horrid
06:49 < JollyRoger`> Yeah. >_<.
06:50 < DrEmmettBrown> no offense but are they old
06:50 < DrEmmettBrown> cause it's weird that people are attached to e-mail accounts that much
06:50 < JollyRoger`> Yeah :(.
06:50 < JollyRoger`> At first I looked into it and then thought "Maybe I could try this..." but the more I read about the spam, the MX blacklists, getting blacklisted, and the spam...
06:50 < Virtual-Potato> there's things like gmail y'know
06:50 < DrEmmettBrown> oh dang
06:50 < DrEmmettBrown> maybe try that lmao
06:50 < DrEmmettBrown> you could get a vanity domain too
06:50 < JollyRoger`> I'm really convinced that "SMTP" does not stand for "Simple Mail Transfer Protocol."
06:51 < DrEmmettBrown> something like @JollyRoger'sfamily.fml
06:51 < JollyRoger`> It stands for "Spam, Malware, Trojans & Phishing."
06:51 < Holo> ha
06:51 < Virtual-Potato> Yeah an email like mom@jollyroger.com
06:51 < DrEmmettBrown> yes
06:51 < JollyRoger`> Hehe, yeah. I was thinking I might as well just pay somewhere to host it for me with a nice fancy domain.
06:51 < Virtual-Potato> no SMTP stands for sadistic mail torture protocol
06:51 < JollyRoger`> *laughs*
06:51 < JollyRoger`> That's a good one!
06:51 < DrEmmettBrown> google maybe
06:51  * DrEmmettBrown laughs
06:52 < DrEmmettBrown> I'm learning
06:52 < genr8_> mail is too complex to be worth it
06:52 < Virtual-Potato> nah
06:52 < Virtual-Potato> just open up port 25
06:52 < DrEmmettBrown> just use 10 minute mail
06:52 < Virtual-Potato> wcgw?
06:52 < DrEmmettBrown> and spam that thingy that says 10 mins more
06:52 < JollyRoger`> Hehe. I was actually thinking someplace like Startmail, or Contactoffice. Many of my users use Thunderbird, Outlook, or Apple Mail or the Android Mail app.
06:53 < JollyRoger`> So the good news is that if we switch providers most of them (especially the older members of the family that are set in their ways and have trouble figuring out instant messaging applications) won't notice the difference.
06:54 < JollyRoger`> Hahahaha oh man. Opening up Port 25 at home sounds...
06:54 < JollyRoger`> Like insanity >_<.
06:55 < Virtual-Potato> JollyRoger`, don't worry, your ISP already has that port blocked anyways
06:55 < JollyRoger`> Whew.
06:55 < JollyRoger`> Yeah, I was thinking if I wanted to do a home server I'd need to go to one of those "rent-a-rack" places a couple towns over where for a bit of money they'll put your server in a rack and provide power and unlimited internet, or I'd buy a VPS, or rent a server.
06:56 < JollyRoger`> *rent a VPS
06:56 < Virtual-Potato> renting a VPS is probably more cost effective
06:56 < JollyRoger`> Yeah.
06:56 < Virtual-Potato> or even just go for AWS/GCP
06:56 < genr8_> not if you already have the server and or free hardware
06:57 < Virtual-Potato> the free tier at least
06:57 < genr8_> they price those services so that you dont have to worry about the hardware upkeep and replacement
06:57 < Virtual-Potato> doubt you'll be doing anything computationally intensive
06:57 < genr8_> so if you do that yourself you can save a lot
06:57 < JollyRoger`> Yeah. I have an old gaming computer that won't run many good games, but still runs happily, and an old 2-unit rackmount case with a 700 watt power supply.
06:57 < JollyRoger`> Oh hey that's an idea too.
06:58 < JollyRoger`> It would run Crysis and Far Cry 2 nearly maxed out, but... still an older unit.
06:58 < jay-ros> Fucking sweet
06:58 < jay-ros> Set precedence to use fs.com SFPs, which means I can drop the price of the office recable project down to 'compatible' fibre sfps for switch-to-switch
06:59 < Virtual-Potato> Like I've offered in the past, I can host it for you. I can guarantee five nines too
06:59 < JollyRoger`> Woah you got fiber internet?!
06:59 < jay-ros> JollyRoger`,  at home? yeah, 92mb down, 40 up
06:59 < JollyRoger`> Wow!
06:59 < kepler> yuck
06:59 < Virtual-Potato> thats uhh
06:59 < JollyRoger`> Hey Virtual-Potato, that's very kind of you! I don't know if I'm ready yet though. I still have a lot to learn, myself.
06:59 < Virtual-Potato> er
07:00 < jay-ros> er?
07:00 < Virtual-Potato> 9.9999% uptime guarantee, that is
07:00 < jay-ros> That's almost 100! (/10)
07:00 < JollyRoger`> ...hehe, I figured with a misplaced decimal point X).
07:00 < Holo> 9.9999% uptime
07:01 < Holo> you are almost up sometimes
07:01 < Holo> :p
07:01 < JollyRoger`> Hehehe X).
07:01 < Virtual-Potato> nearly ten percent of the time, it works every time
07:01 < JollyRoger`> Hahahaha XD.
07:01 < Holo> moving my irc shit to a new docker stack crap
07:01 < Virtual-Potato> oh
07:01 < Virtual-Potato> and the server?
07:01 < Holo> this should be nice once its done
07:01 < Virtual-Potato> it's an old gaming laptop
07:02 < JollyRoger`> Right now where I stand in "What I'm learning" is that I'm trying to cover the basics of endpoint security. Since it occurred to me, if my ssh keys are ever stolen, then that's a total compromise. If that ever happens my family won't ever trust me with computer related again, so I have only one shot to get this right.
07:02 < jay-ros> Virtual-Potato, overclocked GPU I hope
07:02 < JollyRoger`> *with anything computer-related
07:02 < Virtual-Potato> throw away the SSH keys, problem solved
07:02 < Holo> JollyRoger` see zerotier one
07:02 < JollyRoger`> XD.
07:02 < JollyRoger`> Zerotier one...?
07:02 < JollyRoger`> Okay! Let me look that up.
07:02 < Holo> only ssh via the vpn
07:03 < jay-ros> Virtual-Potato, rocking a sporty 8GB RAM and 250GB hard disk with over 5399 rotations per minte
07:03 < Virtual-Potato> it's actually pretty decent
07:03 < jay-ros> I have a butchered alienware m11x r3 I threw in the garbage yesterday
07:03 < Virtual-Potato> intel i7 4700MQ, gtx 765m, 12GB RAM, 1TB HDD with a 256GB SSD
07:04 < jay-ros> I felt sat throwing it in the bin, but I'm sick of having excess crap
07:04 < Virtual-Potato> it's really too bad the motherboard doesn't have vt-d support
07:04 < Holo> Set up the vpn which takes seconds, and firewall off ssh from the outside world. that will save your ass if you some how make your private key public JollyRoger`
07:04 < Virtual-Potato> no vt-d support = no GPU passthrough to VM
07:05 < Virtual-Potato> can't get iommu isolation to work
07:05 < Virtual-Potato> oh well
07:06 < JollyRoger`> Great!
07:07 < Holo> it also serves as a great way to access my home media :P
07:07 < Holo> because I do not trust plex
07:07 < Virtual-Potato> why not
07:08 < Holo> why should I
07:09 < Virtual-Potato> Holo, why the suggestion for zerotier one? What's wrong with plain old VPN server/client?
07:09 < Holo> Virtual-Potato becasue this is easy as fuck to set up
07:09 < Holo> and its fast
07:10 < Virtual-Potato> not too terribly difficult to set up openvpn either
07:10 < Holo> install, zerotier-cli join <networkid> done?
07:10 < Holo> approve via web panel
07:11 < genr8_> if Plex provided that interface would you accept it then ?
07:11 < Holo> genr8_ If some one pointed to me to their white pages on how they encrypt etc
07:11 < genr8_> ive never seen it either.
07:12 < genr8_> theres a whole hell of a lot of open plex ports out there
07:12 < Holo> ya
07:12 < genr8_> https://www.shodan.io/search?query=plex
07:12 < Holo> plus this vpn will try to work around work blocking vpns
07:12 < Virtual-Potato> Holo, for now
07:13 < Virtual-Potato> it'll get blocked later on
07:13 < Holo> it tried to P2P
07:13 < Holo> then if all else fails, relay between their servers
07:14 < Holo> I love how I can bridge my lan through it
07:14 < genr8_> its cool that they made it easy
07:19 < sw1tchmod> woot, just got verif :D
07:22 < jay-ros> sw1tchmod, that's my favourite font
07:43 < DrEmmettBrown> ayy im back
08:04 < Cihan> LOL http://thechive.com/2018/07/01/someone-has-been-hiding-porn-in-the-new-super-mario-game-7-photos/
08:07 < MaxLeiter> That’s such a terrible title
08:07 < MaxLeiter> people set their profile pictures
08:07 < MaxLeiter> it wasn’t hidden in the game or something
08:17 < LemWork> yays
08:18 < LemWork> finally got a license for the old software from Avast
08:18 < LemWork> fscking idjiots creating software for an enterprise network that doesn't know how to deal with a proxy server >_<
08:57 < ceofreak> Morning freaks
09:30 < Wannabejrsysadm> Hello gents
09:45 < plop> morning
09:46 < jumi> morning
09:55 < humpaxx> Morning
09:55 < humpaxx> or, Gomorrn´ as i like to say when i get to the office
09:56 < plop> when i get to the office i say: nobody talk to me.
09:57 < humpaxx> When one of my cowrokers who has some kind of 3 letter thing comes and and i greet him most times all i get is audible grunting
09:58 < humpaxx> Hearing him interact with people (wich he doesn´t like to do) is like looking like an accident, its uncomfortable but you just can´t help look
09:59 < humpaxx> Looking at an accident *
10:20 < humpaxx> A friend who works at solawinds showed me appoptics
10:21 < humpaxx> Its quite cool that they have this middleware wrapper you can use to collect info
10:23 < genericanon> Hey everyone, I'm trying to get my homelab going to learn some skills in hopes to get a head start into my career. I've converted my ubuntu server install into Proxmox VE with various CentOS containers achieving the same tasks with plex and torrenting. Would you guys have any tasks or challenges for me to tackle?
10:44 < miggyb> I have a Dell XPS 13 (9360) that doesn't want to boot with an iPXE USB stick and a USB 2.0 ethernet adapter. Has anyone else seen something like this? iPXE boots fine, but it just doesn't detect any ethernet interfaces
10:44 < catbeard> wipe it and when you finish installing gentoo you will be well on your way to journeyman sysadminhood
10:44 < catbeard> @ genericanon
10:44 < miggyb> Firmware was updated to latest, USB Ethernet adapter works on another computer
10:47 < CoJaBo> are you sure it supports USB adaptors?
10:48 < miggyb> I wasn't aware there was an option to *not* support USB adapters O_o
10:48 < miggyb> especially since iPXE is doing the heavy lifting here
10:50 < catbeard> is it showing up in BIOS or any legacy usb options disabled in BIOS?
10:50 < miggyb> BIOS doesn't really show active/connected USB devices, I think. I'll look through things again
10:52 < miggyb> All legacy booting has been disabled though. iPXE is set to boot in UEFI mode
11:09 < humpaxx> catbeard: What year is it where you are atm? Who uses gentoo nowadays? :P
11:10 < plop> Larry the cow was a bit frustrated
11:10 < plop>    at the current state of Linux distributions…
11:10 < plop> …until he tried Gentoo Linux.
11:10 < plop> wtf
11:11 < jumi> fuck yeah, after "only" three months of discussions with the "systems" team I FINALLY have a working backup solution
11:12 < jumi> good fucking lord was this a pain in the ass
11:12 < CoJaBo> that fast?
11:13 < CoJaBo> It took half a year to get a RAID-1 disk replaced on a primary customer-facing shared hosting server
11:14 < CoJaBo> Madness.
11:15 < MikeSeth> I just took a spare supermicro box, stuffed it with drives and put bareos on it
11:17 < plop> do you remember beos?
11:17 < plop> that kind of unix+amiga feel?
11:21 < MikeSeth> plop: I used to hack on an opensource clone called syllable
11:21 < MikeSeth> os dev is fun
11:21 < plop> heh
11:22 < CoJaBo> I've encountered a lot of weird OSs
11:22 < jumi> CoJaBo: fast?
11:22 < CoJaBo> ?
11:22 < jumi> taking into account that everything was in place and they just had to set up a share, it's definitely not fast
11:24 < CoJaBo> jumi: Replacing a disk shouldn't take 6mos either :P
11:28 < jumi> CoJaBo: true
11:28 < CoJaBo> The main array is at least massively redundant
11:28 < CoJaBo> It can go weeks to months between replacements
11:50 < humpaxx> The new emial workflow with GDPR is to delete old emails
11:51 < humpaxx> I dug through a trove of emails in my archive(deleted items) just to find out wich ISP one of the offices we support :)
11:53 < humpaxx> Theres no information about internet outage in their area on the ISP website but theres 26 people ahead of me in their phone support queue
12:03 < humpaxx> CoJaBo: Six months?!
12:03 < CoJaBo> Might've been a bit more or less, but yeh
12:03 < CoJaBo> Failed mid winter, not replaced until well into the summer
12:04 < CoJaBo> What killed the drive in the first place was an unusually bizarre sequence of events
12:21 < gavit> when running multiple webapps on a single apache instance and a cluster of mariadb, how do you go about upgrding the apache/php/mariadb? you test for every app?
12:22 < gavit> or do you test one app, migrate to a 2nd apache server/mariadb cluster
12:36 < JFDkthx> fack it's monday
12:36 < JFDkthx> why cant it be saturday isntead
12:37 < Tzunamii> Morning
12:37 < JFDkthx> mornign
13:05 < JFDkthx> who's idea was it to make datacenters cold all the time
13:15 < estranger> JFDkthx: should be an easy week though
13:15 < JFDkthx> yeee
13:15 < estranger> And many DCs are too cold for their own good
13:15 < JFDkthx> im hoping thats the case but i dont see anyone on my team with pto in
13:16 < JFDkthx> estranger: i just dont have my fleece in this DC so im cold in short sleeves
13:16 < JFDkthx> maybe i should put in pto.
13:16 < JFDkthx> yeah....
13:17 < Tzunamii> See it from the bright side...   I'd rather have it cold and be able to put on a extra shirt than being hot and bothered (sweaty hands handling laptops and UTP-connectors)
13:18 < JFDkthx> Tzunamii: had a power outage that led to us losing chilled water a couple of months back. our security engineer called us in a tiff because the server room was 104.
13:18 < JFDkthx> i was on vacay luckily
13:18 < Tzunamii> damn
13:23 < estranger> I had a DC hit 136 heh, racks we're almost hot to the touch lol
13:24 < humpaxx> Thats impressive
13:24 < humpaxx> And the machines still ran or were you shutting stuff down?
13:24 < JFDkthx> oof, you really hate to see that happening.
13:25 < estranger> Oh they were shutting down.. depended on the model and location in the DC
13:26 < JFDkthx> aight, pto in for friday.
13:26 < estranger> Woot
13:26 < estranger> BTW garbage day is Thursday this week
13:26 < JFDkthx> GARBAGE DAY
13:27 < estranger> Not yet!
13:27 < estranger> Sheesh
13:27  * JFDkthx shoots anyway
13:27 < JFDkthx> ahahahaha
13:27 < estranger> So. Rude.
13:29 < humpaxx> I got that post-lunch sleepynes real bad today
13:29 < JFDkthx> good news is
13:29 < Tzunamii> food-coma incoming
13:29 < humpaxx> Indeed
13:29 < JFDkthx> seems like an odd powershell command
13:29 < JFDkthx> food-coma
13:29 < humpaxx> get-coma -type "food"
13:30 < JFDkthx> get-item -type food
13:30 < Tzunamii> everything in Powershell is odd, obscene and a bleak version of *nix shells
13:30 < Tzunamii> Discuss
13:30 < JFDkthx> eh.
13:30 < JFDkthx> it's for that LAYman
13:31 < humpaxx> Mweh i like powershell, mostly because its the only lanuage i kinda know a little bit
13:31 < humpaxx> But my favorite programming language is html
13:32 < JFDkthx> <why>?</why>
13:32 < Tzunamii> I'm going to pretend I didn't see that
13:32 < humpaxx> I forgot to append /s
13:33 < JFDkthx> <sarcasm>But my favorite programming language is html</sarcasm>
13:33 < humpaxx> Time to use the thinker brainer thing and figure out why outlook won´t let me add a mailbox
13:33 < humpaxx> laters
13:33 < JFDkthx> kbye
13:33 < Tzunamii> ! HTML=love
14:10 < humpaxx> I can´t do it
14:10 < humpaxx> The thinker isn´t thinkering
14:24 < tenthshift> happy monday everyone
14:25 < estranger> Powershell is not a bleak version of nix shell.. powershell works with objects, shell is all text manipulation.  Discuss.
14:25 < estranger> Different beasts
14:26 < plop> mx-brown or mx-blue? Discuss.
14:27 < estranger> Neither :o
14:47 < asimon> Good morning my friends
14:49 < kepler>  /wave
14:49 < kepler> estranger: except powershell breaks object passing sometimes. i forget what i was trying to pass one day and had to check the help commandlet and it just wasn't passable as an object
14:50 < kepler> apparently lately they have been getting worse
14:50 < kepler> mx-clearssssssssssssssssss
14:50 < arlion> goood morning
14:50 < estranger> kepler: well that's no good when that's all powershell is... And it fails at it :)
14:51 < kepler> estranger: i mean, it sucks, i think it ends up being "people wanted this info, but we didn't wire up the object pass crap for it"
14:51 < kepler> but it is what you have
14:52 < kepler> on a good note though, this new NUC w/ the AMD gpu integrated instead of intel's junk is a fantastic little workstation
14:53 < kepler> picked it up a couple months ago, but no linux drivers until kernel 4.18 came out (now in RCs)
14:53 < kepler> but running really well
14:54 < kepler> can do 6x 4k displays, so going to try to get work to get me 2 more to make 4
14:55 < asimon> Fuckin microsoft
14:55 < asimon> "In October 2020, other clients, including Office 2016, will be blocked from connecting to Office 365 services."
14:56 < asimon> We just bought 2016
14:56 < kepler> M$
14:56 < kepler> better prep that budget for subscriptions
14:56 < asimon> Though maybe it won't matter since we don't really use the cloud portion of 365 at all
15:01 < tenthshift> so here's a fun one
15:01 < JollyRgrs> asimon: you shoulda bought O365
15:01 < JollyRgrs> :P
15:01 < kepler> just use vim
15:01 < kepler> and pine
15:01 < kepler> or mutt
15:01 < tenthshift> when I reboot my web server VM, the OS hangs and IIS doesn't serve anything... until the second I try to load the OWA portal on my exchange server
15:02 < tenthshift> at which point the web server instantly unfucks itself and everything works fine
15:02 < tenthshift> I thought it was coincidence the first time, so I did it again this morning
15:02 < JollyRgrs> tenthshift: uh...
15:02 < tenthshift> web server won't even open task manager, waited 15 min to see.. launched mailserver web access and instantly the web server started working
15:02 < JollyRgrs> call a witch doctor
15:02 < tenthshift> JollyRgrs, right?
15:03 < tenthshift> I mean the things are on the same domain, and share an SSL, but are different IPs and on different hosts even
15:04 < JollyRgrs> tenthshift: anything in logs?
15:04 < tenthshift> JollyRgrs, nothing notable that I've found yet
15:04 < JollyRgrs> like open OWA, then check logs for what happened previously and what happened when it started?
15:04 < JollyRgrs> or everything nominal, but just delayed until OWA launch?
15:04 < tenthshift> the latter
15:05 < JollyRgrs> and visiting other sites does nothing?
15:05 < estranger> hmm mbp crashed last night
15:05 < tenthshift> it's like it's hung on some leaky service start or some shit, until the mail server happens and then it gives up
15:05 < estranger> thanks high sierra
15:05 < JollyRgrs> what if you visit the IIS landing page for the OWA server?
15:05 < JollyRgrs> estranger: what did you do it to trick Apple?
15:05 < tenthshift> JollyRgrs, good question, I'll try that tomorrow (IIS landing)
15:05 < JollyRgrs> apple's aren't supposed to crash!
15:05 < estranger> it just works! *tm
15:06 < tenthshift> the web server isn't pingable prior to that either, btw
15:06 < JollyRgrs> tenthshift: i can only imagine something like it is "waiting" to verify network connection or something riddic. that makes no sense... but this is the only straw i could grasp in the thin air
15:06 < tenthshift> it's up, it thinks it has internet, I can sorta click in the VM and do everything but launch apps
15:06 < tenthshift> until the moment I launch the exchange owa
15:06 < tenthshift> this is the kind of absurdity I have come to expect at $company
15:07 < tenthshift> and I'm the sysadmin, whatever happened is 80% my fault
15:07 < tenthshift> but I have zero idea wtf it is
15:07 < tenthshift> 80% likely to be
15:07 < tenthshift> barring a user getting unlikely
15:07 < tenthshift> *unlucky
15:07 < tenthshift> words are hard
15:08 < alazare619> feel like poop today
15:09 < JollyRgrs> s/poop/pooping
15:09 < tenthshift> boss makes a dollar, I make a dime, that's why...
15:09 < JollyRgrs> it's ok alazare619... everyone poops. it's true b/c i read it in a book
15:09 < tenthshift> alazare619, sorry you feel unwell
15:09 < tenthshift> oh shit that remidns me for some reason
15:10 < tenthshift> you all remember (prob not) a few months back someone was talking about sending cards around the office and writing "sorry for your loss" when it isn't appropriate, or something happy, etc
15:10 < tenthshift> and how it's a dangerous game for people who aren't paying close attention to wtf they're signing, and how a solution is sign illigibly
15:10 < tenthshift> anyway that happened to my boss last week back'
15:11 < tenthshift> HR sent around a card for someone's new baby boy, and a card for a death in someone's family
15:11 < tenthshift> at the same time, without making it clear which was which
15:11 < tenthshift> he signed "congrats" on both
15:11 < tenthshift> but was able to kind of make the "congrats" look like "sorry for your loss" after I pointed it out
15:12 < tenthshift> point is, hallmark card roulette is a dangerous event
15:12 < alazare619> when a card goes around and idk what it is for
15:12 < alazare619> i dont sign it
15:13 < estranger> i never signed the office cards, or gave to the baby funds.. if you sign or give to one you have to sign/give to all.  maybe im rude but ill pass, thx
15:13 < alazare619> "must of been away from my desk" is my go to
15:13 < estranger> and dont get me a card either :D
15:13 < tenthshift> our HR dept tracks people down
15:13 < tenthshift> so I can't claim ignorance, I'd have to actively refuse
15:13 < estranger> tenthshift, track them down to sign?
15:13 < tenthshift> estranger yeah
15:13 < tenthshift> lol
15:13 < estranger> yeah fuck that, im not signing even more now because now its not even genuine
15:14 < JollyRgrs> lol
15:15 < JollyRgrs> no one ever signed anything for me, so f them
15:15 < estranger> i dont want people to sign for me, because i wont sign for htem... seems fair
15:15 < tenthshift> tbh I agree estranger
15:15 < estranger> im totally cool w/ others doing the cards/gifts thing around the office as long as anyone can opt out w/o guilt
15:16 < humpaxx> estranger, JollyRgrs Do you do anything except IRC and sleep? :p
15:17 < JollyRgrs> humpaxx: yeah
15:17 < JollyRgrs> play rocket league
15:17 < JollyRgrs> :P
15:17 < humpaxx> Ah Rocketleague
15:17 < JollyRgrs> actually, today is day 1 (well, technically, day 2... but i didn't work on Sunday) of my new job role
15:17 < JollyRgrs> i've got very little to do right now
15:18 < JollyRgrs> not yet given much in my directives (meeting sched. for tomorrow) and wrapped up most of my old stuff
15:18 < estranger> humpaxx, i IRC while working mostly
15:18 < JollyRgrs> usually I IRC in the morning
15:18 < JollyRgrs> I IRC in the evening
15:18 < JollyRgrs> ALL OVER THIS LAAAAAAND
15:18 < estranger> when the baby is sleeping before work ill hop on too
15:19 < estranger> that used to be my VR time though :(
15:19 < JollyRgrs> VR love you long time?
15:20 < estranger> it did!
15:20 < estranger> i miss it
15:21 < humpaxx> Peuh i almost closed the webchat tab
15:22 < hxcsp> damn its monday morning
15:22 < hxcsp> like the farthest away from friday
15:23 < JollyRgrs> hxcsp: you aren't off on Wed?
15:23 < estranger> yeah but its an easy/short week in the only country that matters
15:23 < hxcsp> JollyRgrs: yeah, but still. thats only one day
15:23 < JollyRgrs> so since Wed is only a single day off... Tues is not like a friday (b/c it isn't preceding a TWO day weekend)
15:23 < JollyRgrs> but Thurs. will be like a 2nd Monday
15:24 < estranger> but so many p eople took off this week that even your working days will be light
15:24 < JollyRgrs> ^^^
15:24 < estranger> i never took PTO on weeks like this
15:24 < JollyRgrs> which is #1 reason to NOT take off
15:24 < JollyRgrs> exactly
15:24 < JollyRgrs> haha
15:24 < estranger> or that week between christmas and new years
15:24 < hxcsp> this is true it will be a light week
15:24 < estranger> its like party week at work, why waste days off?
15:24 < hxcsp> but that means ill just be bored
15:25 < JollyRgrs> hxcsp: you still work from home, right?
15:25 < estranger> how the hell are you bored if you WFH
15:25 < ny0x> we got weds off and a float day
15:25  * estranger looks at all his home office toys
15:25 < alazare619> oh wow
15:25 < alazare619> stumbleupon shutdown
15:25 < hxcsp> estranger: because if you take the 4 days in the week off, you could essentially have a 9 day vacation for only 4 PTO days
15:26 < hxcsp> JollyRgrs: no i dont work from home. hour commute both ways
15:26 < estranger> hxcsp, thats just one day of savings vs having 4 easy days at work and taking off days that would be more difficult
15:26 < ny0x> although I got a last minute possible migration to happen this week.
15:26 < JollyRgrs> hxcsp: didn't you used to?
15:26 < hxcsp> estranger: oh i know, i was just saying why people do it that way
15:27 < hxcsp> JollyRgrs: no, i do a few days here and there
15:27 < estranger> they are wrong :D  jk, its just that my opinions are the correct ones
15:27 < JollyRgrs> oh, i must be thinking someone else
15:27 < hxcsp> shakygator does
15:27 < JollyRgrs> estranger: well, you aren't factoring in one big thing, thoguh
15:27 < JollyRgrs> if you take off during "more work" times... you have MORE work to catch up on when you get back
15:27 < JollyRgrs> unless all you do is work a shared pool of tickets
15:28 < hxcsp> then you are a dick for taking off when you have a lot of tickets
15:28 < hxcsp> haha
15:28 < JollyRgrs> haha
15:28 < estranger> i guess if you have a bus factor of 1
15:28 < estranger> who cares if yer a dick, PTO is part of your work compensation.. not your problem =)
15:28 < humpaxx> Speaking of bus factors i need to work on my documentation so i dont get calls when im on vacation in august
15:29 < deww> humpaxx: you just jinxed yourself.
15:31 < humpaxx> Well.. shit.
15:32 < asimon> Yeah you're probably gonna get hit by a bus while on vacation now
15:32 < Hatter> oh good morning
15:32 < asimon> RIP
15:34 < estranger> so im on this internal call this mroning  and im already ready to just get wasted
15:39 < JFDkthx> someone sanity check something for me
15:39 < JFDkthx> this is labeled as 4int/4ext port
15:39 < JFDkthx> https://store.atto.com/sassata-adapters/35-12gb-4-int4-ext-ports-sas-hba.html
15:40 < estranger> thats what it says.. other istes agree
15:40 < estranger> 8 channel, 4 int/4ext
15:40 < JFDkthx> is it actually a 2/2?
15:40 < Hatter> is there anything interesting going on
15:40 < humpaxx> asimon: i wish
15:40 < estranger> https://www.cdw.com/product/atto-expresssas-h1244-storage-controller-sata-6gb-s-sas-12gb-s-pcie/4753340 another description of same thing.. shows 8 channels
15:41  * asimon yikes
15:41 < JFDkthx> is it because it's minisas and they are putting 4 channels over 2 cables?
15:42 < JFDkthx> 36 pin 4x Mini SAS HD (SFF-8644)
15:42 < JFDkthx> yup
15:42 < JFDkthx> okay
15:42 < JFDkthx> cool
15:42 < JFDkthx> tanks estranger
15:44 < humpaxx> felda: how did you get the @donger/pfsense suffix?
15:45 < felda> dark wizard magic
15:45 < felda> also a lot of help from ravioli
15:47 < felda> In case you all don't know:  ravioli is best OP and you are all but kibbles & bits before him
15:47 < JFDkthx> felda: you would say that to me on LAN
15:48 < JFDkthx> im jacked
15:48 < felda> boy I would slap you with my karambit on LAN
15:48 < Nightcinder> NEAT
15:48 < Nightcinder> the condenser in the server room is leaking!
15:48 < Nightcinder> 3" of water over the weekend
15:49 < felda> also does anyone feel weird when you get an email that uses your full name in the introduction / subject line?
15:49 < Nightcinder> well, 3" of water in the bucket i had placed there because i had a bad feeling
15:49 < JFDkthx> Nightcinder: 3" of water in what
15:49 < JFDkthx> oh
15:49 < felda> at least you placed a bucket :D
15:49 < Nightcinder> i had a feeling
15:49 < Nightcinder> server room is also over 80F
15:49 < Nightcinder> and our maintenance is in lala land
15:49 < JFDkthx> that tonights going to be a wet night/
15:49 < alazare619> s/best OP/best pasta
15:50 < JollyRgrs> felda: weird like uncle touching you weird or weird like seeing a man pour jello down his pants while riding a unicycle and having a baby bear on his back?
15:51 < JFDkthx> JollyRgrs: little of column a little of column b
15:51 < JollyRgrs> Nightcinder: you might wanna keep that humidity in check
15:51 < Nightcinder> i'm going to go down and personally murder them all
15:51 < JollyRgrs> also... 3" of water is irrelevant without knowing the radius of the bucket
15:51 < Nightcinder> it's not irrelevant
15:52 < Nightcinder> it's water that should not be there
15:52 < Hatter> don't fight guys
15:52 < JollyRgrs> 3" of water in a 5mm tube isn't much at all
15:52 < Nightcinder> it's a normal trash can
15:52 < JollyRgrs> :P
15:52 < JollyRgrs> well, that's not good
15:53 < JollyRgrs> our AC used to leak water out under the carpet of the hallway outside of the DC (where tech support and other non-it ppl sat)
15:53 < JollyRgrs> it would flood the subfloor and seep out, haha
15:53 < JollyRgrs> #NotMyJob #NotMyProblem #Hashtag
15:53 < MadCamel> #IRCChannel
15:54 < JollyRgrs> MadCamel: you should idle there
15:54 <@dbcc> rip
15:54 <@dbcc> i broke my weechat
15:54 < Nightcinder> JollyRgrs: our AC is barely working
15:54 < JollyRgrs> what did you do?
15:54 < Nightcinder> server room is set to 67
15:54 < JFDkthx> s/wee/weeb
15:54 < Nightcinder> it's 80
15:54 < JollyRgrs> sounds like Nightcinder is the one who is RIP
15:54 <@dbcc> set it up to use icons and shit and now its all jacked
15:54 < MadCamel> now idling in #hashtag .. except freenode is lame and doesn't show people what other channels you're in with /whois ..
15:54 < JollyRgrs> wait, as in emoticons?
15:54 <@dbcc> unicode
15:55 <+SpeakerToMeat> Hello
15:55 < JollyRgrs> now you have random chars on the end of the chat line?
15:55 < MadCamel> which I always thought was horrible because how do you find new channels? Used to be able to whois someone you got along with
15:55 <@dbcc> beginning really
15:55 < JollyRgrs> oh
15:55 < JollyRgrs> i've had some issues with that, too
15:55 <@dbcc> going back to hexchat weeeeeeeeeeeee
15:55 <+SpeakerToMeat> Question, has anyone here shoved kingston UV500 ssd drives onto an DL360 G5 by any chance? do they work well?
15:55 < JollyRgrs> also, b/c i'm using it through putty... they don't show up when inside of tmux/screen
15:55 <+SpeakerToMeat> dbcc: I'm banished to web chat :'(
15:56 <@dbcc> im on WSL connected through ssh and a screen
15:56 <@dbcc> kek
15:56 < JollyRgrs> SpeakerToMeat: pretty sure shoving any hdd into a server is no bueno
15:56 < JollyRgrs> you gotta eeeeeease it in
15:56 < JollyRgrs> oh... ssh and screen in WSL screwed up for me w/o even tryin to do that stuff
15:56 <+SpeakerToMeat> dbcc: My weechat setup lies home, where I've been without internet for 4 days and might be for several days to come
15:56 < JollyRgrs> tmux didn't help
15:56 < JollyRgrs> SpeakerToMeat: viva la revolucion?
15:57 <+SpeakerToMeat> JollyRgrs: eff off
15:57 < JollyRgrs> :P
15:57 < JollyRgrs> SpeakerToMeat: i'm now in charge of both north america and latin america
15:57 <+SpeakerToMeat> wat
15:57 < JollyRgrs> so i might be making some trips
15:57 < JollyRgrs> well, for my area in my company
15:57 <+SpeakerToMeat> SSD, will Kingston UV500 ssds in theory work on a DL360 G5?
15:58 < JollyRgrs> not like global regional dictator
15:58 <+SpeakerToMeat> JollyRgrs: Oh
15:58 <+SpeakerToMeat> JollyRgrs: I doubt you'll be sent here, and I am in no condition to travel anywhere to meet you, but if you're sent here holler and I'll try my best to keep you alive
15:59 < JollyRgrs> i'd laugh, except that's probably true
15:59 < JollyRgrs> yeah, mostly i'd be going to MXC, we have a hub there for most of LATAM
15:59 <@dbcc> back to hexchat
16:00 <@dbcc> weeeeeeeeee
16:00 < JollyRgrs> s/eee/chat
16:02 < ebol4> most extreme elimination challenge?
16:02 <@mistiry> Guy LeDouche
16:03 < Church-> dbcc: Wow, you're alive.
16:03 < ebol4> not for long
16:03 <@dbcc> yes i am always alive
16:03 < Church-> SpeakerToMeat: Oh hey you're back
16:03 <@dbcc> i lie in wait
16:03 <+TuxedoJack> Kenny Blankenship
16:03 <+TuxedoJack> AND VIC ROMANO
16:03 <@dbcc> ready to bant
16:03 < ebol4> ray romano
16:05 < Church-> Heya TuxedoJack
16:06 < Church-> So had an interviewer miss multiple phone interviewers in a row now
16:06 < Church-> Mind she set them all up.
16:06 < Church-> The fuck.
16:07 <+TuxedoJack> Welp, she's canned
16:07 < humpaxx> TuxedoJack: Nah just have her do the job the hires would have done
16:07 < humpaxx> All they´d do would be to sit at a computer all day, anyone can do that /s
16:09 <@dbcc> i got promoted at work
16:09 <@dbcc> im lead custodian now
16:09 < humpaxx> Cool
16:09 < estranger> get a better broom?
16:09 < humpaxx> Lead user custodian?
16:10 <@mistiry> estranger: its not in the budget this year
16:10 <@dbcc> yea they upgraded me from the mop to the broom
16:10 <@dbcc> also my plunger doesnt have splinters
16:10 < estranger> mops and brooms arent interchangeable! I am taking issue with this.
16:13 < darkscrypt> estranger: i wouldn't know. i have no experience with either of them
16:13 <+TuxedoJack> dbcc: makes it easier for rectal insertion
16:13 < darkscrypt> rectal scanning is the best MFA
16:13 <@dbcc> no
16:13 <@dbcc> stop it
16:14 < darkscrypt> the rectum is just as unique as a finger print, and harder to fake by a would be social engineer or hacker.
16:14 < stcktrce> lol
16:14 < darkscrypt> at the highest levels of security in the nsa, Rectal scanning is implemented in addition to other biometrics such as eye and fingerprint
16:15 < aName> One of the girls in accounting TYPES LIKE THIS ALL OF THE TIME AND I THINK I SHOULD BRING HER A NEW KEYBOARD
16:15 < JollyRgrs> lol
16:15 < hxcsp> i have a guy who sends emails in all caps
16:15 < JollyRgrs> aName: one with the caps lock key disabled
16:15 < estranger> im a fan of Lumidigm V-Series
16:16 < JollyRgrs> just slip some paper udner the contact so it won't ever register caps lock
16:16 < JollyRgrs> has anyone here EVER heard of a "pre DNS" server?
16:16 < darkscrypt> aName : https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/scriptcenter/ON-OFF-Keyboad-Lock-keys-6ba9885c
16:16 < estranger> JollyR no
16:16 < hxcsp> JollyRgrs: that sounds horrible
16:16 < darkscrypt> aName: scheduled task every minute to off caps lock
16:16 < JollyRgrs> dude next to me got an email about that and we are both like "WTF?"
16:16 < estranger> makes no sense
16:16 < aName> darkscrypt: That's more my line of thinking
16:16 < JollyRgrs> i can't even make up what it would be
16:16 < hxcsp> like heres more dns problems ontop of all your existing dns problems
16:16 < estranger> JollyRgrs, me either.
16:16 < hxcsp> isitpredns.com
16:16 < JollyRgrs> "a server where someone goes and manually approves all DDNS entries before they go to the "DNS" server?
16:17 < estranger> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/220968766_Pre-DNS_A_new_way_of_web_acceleration ... da hell is this
16:17 < JollyRgrs> what?
16:17 < JollyRgrs> it's real?
16:17 < aName> So... what, it's predictive DNS?
16:17 < aName> Like 'You're probably going to ask for bar if you're asking for foo"?
16:18 < JollyRgrs> i guess?
16:18 < tenthshift> sounds like it
16:18 < estranger> it was something that was suggested like 10 years ago and I dont think it took off
16:18 < tenthshift> "you asked for foo, well bar is at foo/bar
16:18 < tenthshift> "
16:18 < aName> This sounds annoying
16:18 < stcktrce> "you asked for hub, did you mean pornhub?"
16:18 < estranger> where the hell do you download this paper.. i want to read it
16:19 < darkscrypt> you asked for youtube-red... did you mean redtube
16:19 < darkscrypt> estranger: just gotta put your phone number and email in there,
16:19 < darkscrypt> and then  some guy will call you, and then send you a link...
16:19 < estranger> oh ok! :D
16:19 < darkscrypt> and then he will continue to call you for the rest of your life, just to check up on you
16:19 < alazare619> giant_it_burrit: how move go
16:19 < hxcsp> must have been previously employed by solarwinds
16:19 < estranger> just like hte healthcare people that call me every day now
16:20 < darkscrypt> solarwinds
16:20 < darkscrypt> or techrepublic
16:22 < JollyRgrs> dangit
16:22 < JollyRgrs> i want some bananas
16:22 < JollyRgrs> no one brought fruit for the common table today
16:22  * JollyRgrs is a leech and only takes, never brings
16:23 < humpaxx> estranger: "Mor81135"
16:23 < humpaxx> Well i certainly didn´t mean to send the password
16:23 < darkscrypt> JollyRgrs: we have a lil cafeteria and good vending machines with hot pockets in my building
16:23 < darkscrypt> i never go wanting :)
16:23 < humpaxx> "We've picked up some unusual traffic from your network and have temporarily blocked access from your IP address."
16:24 <@mistiry> humpaxx: its just ***'s for us
16:24 < JollyRgrs> lol... so "pre dns" was really talking about the "on prem dns" and they left out the M
16:24 < JollyRgrs> darkscrypt: nice
16:24 < JollyRgrs> i just want a banana
16:24 < estranger> humpaxx, hosting in Google Cloud?  they like to do that... except they dont block you IP they shut down your account \o/
16:24 < darkscrypt> JollyRgrs: down side... i'm getting fat.
16:24 < humpaxx> mistiry: I won´t be falling for that again..
16:24 < darkscrypt> JollyRgrs: we have fruits and bananas here too. i just never eat them. I stick to hot pockets
16:24 < estranger> darkscrypt, man i want a hot pocket.. its beenyears
16:24 < estranger> forgot about them
16:24 < darkscrypt> estranger: i would share with you.
16:24 < JollyRgrs> darkscrypt: i'm trying to unfat myself
16:25 < estranger> I like the ones w/ the meatballs and the molten cheese that burns the roof of your mouth
16:25 < darkscrypt> JollyRgrs:  me too!
16:25 < darkscrypt> estranger: dunham ref?
16:25 < estranger> darkscrypt, nope, was molten cheese used in the office?
16:25 < darkscrypt> jeff dunham, hot pockets. google it lol
16:25 < estranger> er that was dundin ... so, i dunno your reference at all then :D
16:26 < darkscrypt> see above
16:26 <@mistiry> dunder-mifflin
16:26 < estranger> dunder.. i was still wrong \o/
16:26 < plop> this is pam
16:26 < estranger> all I know is SCRANTON PA
16:26 <@mistiry> BEARS. BEETS. BATTLESTAR GALLACTICA.
16:26 < darkscrypt> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-i9GXbptog <-- apparently it was jim gaffigan
16:26 < ebol4> jeff dunham is the racist puppet man
16:26 < estranger> lol.. so we're all off our rockers today
16:27 < estranger> hes racist?  cus of the terrorist puppet or something else?
16:27 < plop> i could set the building on fire
16:27 < humpaxx> estranger: What does that even mean?
16:27 <@mistiry> jalapeno on a stick maybe?
16:27 < darkscrypt> did i eat it or rub it on my face?? I paaaiid for thattt
16:27 < humpaxx> plop: Don´t forget to grab your stapler before leaving
16:27 < estranger> what does what mean?  he has that akbar the terrorist puppet guy or whatever
16:27 < plop> humpaxx, yup
16:27 < ekaj_> `bofh\
16:27 < darkscrypt> oh man. humor doesn't mean racist. lol.
16:27 < ekaj_> `bofh
16:27 < aName> mistiry: FALSE.
16:28 < humpaxx> estranger: No the thing about being off the rocker
16:28 < estranger> humpaxx, we were all off on our references.
16:28 < humpaxx> Ah
16:28 <@mistiry> my references are spot on
16:28 < estranger> hence a little crazy.
16:30 < corn266> fuck meetings
16:31 < YetiFiasco> Hi Reddit
16:31 < estranger> Hi IRC
16:31 < YetiFiasco> Anyone savvy with meraki?
16:31 < ebol4> i've heard the word before
16:31 < corn266> yea i too have heard 'savvy'
16:32 < abakedapplepie> arrrrr ye savvy
16:34 < YetiFiasco> We're got an AP that's shoving people off for "802.11 association rejected for load balancing", Cisco guff says they should auth with another AP in range, but nothing is
16:34 < YetiFiasco> It's just staying off the wifi as it keeps getting rejected.
16:34 < YetiFiasco> we've*
16:39 < abakedapplepie> YetiFiasco: how many clients??
16:40 < YetiFiasco> Just the one, the AP that's rejecting it has 4-6 clients on at any one time
16:40 < abakedapplepie> wow
16:40 < abakedapplepie> thats shitty
16:40 < Hatter> What do you guys like for online training/labs?
16:40 < YetiFiasco> Yea
16:40 < abakedapplepie> ill jot that down in my miles long list of why meraki sucks
16:40 < humpaxx> Hatter: Microsoft Academy for MS stuff
16:40 < abakedapplepie> i dont understand why anyone would use meraki when unifi has a 100th of the price
16:41 < traaak> luls
16:41 < humpaxx> abakedapplepie: But are they equal in performance?
16:41 < Hatter> what about general networking/storage
16:41 < traaak> heard nothing but bad things about meraki. i've only used it once
16:41 < abakedapplepie> humpaxx: if it gets you 99% of the way there for 1% of the cost
16:41 < abakedapplepie> im game
16:41 < humpaxx> Hatter: Heard good stuff about CBT nuggets
16:41 < Hatter> humpaxx: yeah but what else
16:41 < abakedapplepie> personally i dont know what performance benefits there are with meraki
16:41 < humpaxx> The manuals :d
16:41 < abakedapplepie> esp. now that unifi has gigabit wireless devices
16:42 < abakedapplepie> the ac ap pro hd or whatever will do 300 clients with max wireless speed of 866mbps i think
16:42 < abakedapplepie> and a total of 2.5gbps through to the network?
16:43 < abakedapplepie> oh i forgot about the xg stuff too
16:43 < abakedapplepie> they have arena wifi now
16:43 < ekaj_> my broski uses some unifi stuff for his wisp
16:43 < abakedapplepie> https://www.ubnt.com/unifi/unifi-wifi-basestation-xg/
16:44 <@dbcc> Hatter, mostly linuxacademy and some pluralsight
16:44 < abakedapplepie> 5gbps 1500 clients
16:44 < abakedapplepie> jesus
16:44 < tenthshift> that is insane
16:45 < abakedapplepie> going for that ruckus money
16:48 < JollyRgrs> so trying to replace ".\" in powershell string... but it is reading as regular expression and saying invalid regex
16:49 < JollyRgrs> how do i escape that in regex stuff?
16:49 < JFDkthx>  ./\
16:49 <@dbcc> """"""".\""""""""
16:49 < JollyRgrs> nope
16:49 < JollyRgrs> dbcc: thanks!
16:50 < JFDkthx> doesnt powershel automagically interpret .\ as ./
16:50 < JFDkthx> or are you not doing that.
16:51 < JollyRgrs> JFDkthx: i dunno about 2.0, but 5.1 can do that
16:51 < JollyRgrs> but i'm getting relative-path ".\file.txt"
16:51 < JollyRgrs> but if file doesn't exist, i need to create it
16:52 < JollyRgrs> i'm having issues with a rel path being passed and it creating the log file on ps2.0
16:52 < JollyRgrs> so i decided to just expand it... but if file doesn't exist, relative-path does not work
16:52 < JollyRgrs> err, resolve-path i mean
16:52 <@dbcc> why are you using ps2.0
16:53 < JollyRgrs> i'm making a script for AD stuff and all our DCs are 2008r2
16:53 <@dbcc> sad
16:53 <@dbcc> SAD
16:53 < JollyRgrs> and not many servers are higher, so i'm trying to make sure it is compat
16:53 <+A-KO> upgrade 'em?
16:53 < JollyRgrs> not my job
16:53 <@dbcc> hes above that now
16:53 <+A-KO> PS2.0 is *really* bad
16:54 <+A-KO> I honestly wouldn't write for anything less than 3.0 personally these days, and I'm getting pretty close to saying 5.1. 6.x is a little further off, but that's likely next year for me.
16:54 < Hatter> which site has the best labs?
16:54 <@dbcc> linuxacademy
16:54 <+A-KO> I need to bite the bullet and start insulting Windows and start praising the Tux, apparently.
16:55 <+A-KO> it's what all the cool kids do
16:55 < Hatter> but not just for linux
16:56 <+A-KO> we have people at work that insist on installing cygwin and god knows what else on WIndows just so they can run linux commands. And the reasoning isn't just "I'm more comfortable with these tools" it's "Microsoft sucks and Microsoft does it wrong and clearly anything resembling Linux is better."
16:56 <+A-KO> heh
16:56 < JFDkthx> Hatter: cbtnuggets
16:56 <@cryptic1> whaaaaaaaaaaaaat
16:57 <@dbcc> go back to building your fence cryptic1
16:57 <@dbcc> nobody called for you
16:57 <@cryptic1> holiday
16:57 <@cryptic1> you mad?
16:57 <@dbcc> queens day already
16:57 < JFDkthx> cryptic1: what did you do for canada day
16:57  * cryptic1 smirks
16:57 < JFDkthx> i'll tell you what i did
16:57 <+SpeakerToMeat> He drank lots of maple alcohol
16:57 < JFDkthx> nothing
16:57 < JFDkthx> because thats what canada did
16:57 < humpaxx> Well
16:57 < humpaxx> Time to go home and play with my new unifi stuff
16:57 <@cryptic1> JFDkthx, pool, hot tub + liquor aaaaaaaall day
16:58 <+A-KO> cryptic1 draped himself in a Canadian flag, drank a ton of maple syrup, stood outside and launched fireworks and said "LOL SO GLAD WE'RE NOT THE US GUYS! DON'T WE ALL AGREE, EH?!"
16:58 < JFDkthx> s/unifi/butt
16:58 < humpaxx> Time to go home and play with my new butt stuff
16:58 <@cryptic1> SpeakerToMeat, I actually do have maple alcohol
16:58 <+A-KO> LOL
16:58 <@cryptic1> 0
16:59 < humpaxx> Laters lads
16:59 < ebol4> cryptic1: u a poutine man
16:59 < JFDkthx> dont eat poutine
16:59 < felda> Neat Facts incoming!!!
17:00 <+A-KO> poutine is amazing
17:00 < JFDkthx> _tim ate poutine the last time
17:00 < JFDkthx> and hes ded
17:00 < felda> cryptic1 is black
17:00 < ebol4> how brave
17:00 < felda> and by black
17:00 < felda> I mean his toes are black and falling off
17:01 < felda> "Gangrene just runs in the family you know?
17:01 < felda> ^ real cryptic1 quote
17:01 < asimon> Has anyone heard any more about the DDOS attacks last week?
17:02 < asimon> Protonmail says they've been under heavy bombardment that overwhelmed their DDOS protection vendor
17:02 < asimon> and slack went down for a while
17:02 <@cryptic1> asimon, I think everyone read a small story about it
17:03 <@cryptic1> slack always goes down
17:03 < felda> also I'm super excite
17:03 <@cryptic1> its a shit tier enterprise product
17:03 < felda> because I'm getting a bike
17:03 < felda> Schwinn GTX 2
17:03 < felda> it's big
17:03 < felda> and it's RED
17:03 < felda> I'm gonna go so fast on that bad boy
17:03  * SynMonger hides it in the basement of the Alamo
17:04 < vinrock> are schwinns still mad expensive
17:04 < JFDkthx> for hipsters
17:04 < felda> real bikes are expensive
17:04 < vinrock> those things were like the rolls royces of bikes back in the day
17:04 < felda> It's $250 bike
17:04 <@cryptic1> SpeakerToMeat, https://www.proof66.com/liqueur/oh-canada-maple-liqueur.html
17:04 < felda> so not that expensive for a bike
17:04 < vinrock> ok nah
17:04 < vinrock> i been wanting a specialized stump jumper... the prices are fuckin insanity now
17:04 < felda> > getting bike tomorrow
17:05 < felda> > got blisters while at the lake
17:05 < felda> I will still attempt to ride
17:05 < felda> but my feets are quite tender right now
17:05 <@dbcc> i skateboard everywhere like a real hacker
17:05 < JFDkthx> felda: pedal with your hands
17:05 < felda> no can do JFDkthx
17:05 < felda> I need my hands to be soft and pliable  ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
17:06 < vinrock> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
17:06 < felda> I only use the self service lane if you catch my drift  ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
17:06 <@cryptic1> O_o
17:08 < felda> how's your foot infection?
17:08 < corn266> He still puts on socks before his undies
17:10 < scwizard> i have a two day workweek this weke
17:10 < Hatter> braggart
17:10 < SynMonger> that means something will break on the 4th
17:10 < Hatter> this week is our busiest week for some reason
17:10 < SynMonger> sorry, I don't write the laws of the universe that's just how it is
17:10 < Hatter> (casino)
17:10 < scwizard> there hasn't really been much firefighting period at this company
17:11 < scwizard> it's been super chill
17:11  * estranger thinks what Hatter's vertical is
17:11 < estranger> fireworks.. or medical.
17:11 < Hatter> estranger: I'm just under 6 foot
17:11 < Hatter> bit annoying
17:11 < estranger> lol
17:11 < Heresiarch> Hatter: mid-week holiday, and lots of folk going out to enjoy fireworks and get drunk (reason why).
17:11 < Hatter> Heresiarch: are you trying to tell me about my business?
17:11 < estranger> oh he put it right in there.. casino.. i need to learn to read better
17:12 < Hatter> but yeah I guess that's true
17:12 < Hatter> this is the week people tend to take extended holidays
17:13 < Heresiarch> and ID4 is a family-friendly, but not family-centric holiday (like Thanksgiving/Xmas).
17:13 <+CheckYourSix> This place is desolate today. Only about half of the usual people
17:14 < Hatter> Heresiarch: that's a pretty good point
17:14 < scwizard> gonna clean my apartment over the long weekend
17:14 < Nightcinder> http://thechive.com/2018/07/01/someone-has-been-hiding-porn-in-the-new-super-mario-game-7-photos/
17:14 < Nightcinder> uhhhhh
17:14 < scwizard> my mom is coming to visit July 19th
17:14 < corn266> Nightcinder, sfw?
17:15 < Nightcinder> they blocked out most of the bits
17:15 < Nightcinder> i think chive is always sfw
17:15 < scwizard> need to clean up my apartment
17:15 < scwizard> Nightcinder: still not clicking
17:15 < Nightcinder> i am the sysadmin and my desk is against a wall
17:15 < Nightcinder> soo i'm good
17:16 < scwizard> mine is very much not against a wall
17:16 < scwizard> my boss can look over and see my screen pretty well
17:16 < estranger> i WFH, i can click on hardcore porn full volume @ work
17:16 < technonerd> The chive is soft core porn
17:16 < technonerd> And blatant stealing reddit pics
17:16 < corn266> scwizard, there's a game mode where you hide balloons and those balloons have porno pics on them
17:16 < estranger> not worth my time then
17:16 < scwizard> estranger: i did that for like 2 years, glad to be at an office against lol
17:16 < scwizard> *again
17:17 < scwizard> corn266: the devs put them there?
17:17 < Nightcinder> i'd like to be able to WFH
17:17 < scwizard> and is it hentai or 3d porn?
17:17 < Nightcinder> like, a few days a week
17:17 < estranger> scwizard, really? i dont miss the office.  BUT, i typically go to meetings somewhere a couple days a week give or take
17:17 < estranger> so im not just stuck in the house all day
17:17 < Nightcinder> would like WFH fridays
17:17 < SynMonger> no, if you hack your console and change your profile pic to porn it can get saved server-side
17:17 < estranger> WFH 100%, except when I have meetings.  it's perfect for me
17:18 < scwizard> estranger: i didn't get to go to meeting since the company was in another state. I was super out of touch with everything that was happening. Like my boss would get fired I wouldn't hear about it until 2 weeks later
17:18 < estranger> and meetings are @ customers/prospects offices.. we dont have a local office
17:18 < estranger> scwizard, our company is optimized for WFH... that makes a huge difference too here
17:18 < scwizard> estranger: is it gitlab?
17:19 < estranger> no.. but our company is often ranked in the top for WFH
17:19 < scwizard> ok if you were gitlab I was about to reeeeeeeeeeee at you
17:20 < estranger> I should have taken that job at github before they got bought :<
17:20 < estranger> but im in a good spot for ipo/buyout situations here :D
17:23 < DLSteve> not being able to work from home kinda sucks but I do like the fact I can go drop in on people and intimidate them in person.
17:23 < estranger> i couldn't work in an office at this job if I wanted to
17:24 < estranger> I have to have a dedicated office @ home though for this to work
17:25 < DLSteve> Hmm, I wonder if I could work out of the regional office thats back in my home town. It's technically still the office :P
17:25 < DLSteve> Cost of living is waaay cheaper there to.
17:26 < corn266> scwizard, no it's a game mode where you the player hide balloons and other people find them
17:26 < estranger> yeah that is the trick.. get a south bay salary and live in the middle of nowhere
17:27 < scwizard> corn266: how did the balloons end up with porno tho?
17:27 < int0x1C8> ok wtf my pc updated to 1803 over the weekend and now my AD tools are gone
17:27 < abakedapplepie> rip
17:27 < abakedapplepie> probably need a new version of rsat for 1803
17:28 < voice> lol
17:28 < int0x1C8> dickwads
17:36 < int0x1C8> ok so the 1803 RSAT tools only work on windows 10 and server >1709 fucking great
17:37 <+CheckYourSix> Sometimes I wonder why I bother idling in so many channels.
17:37 <+CheckYourSix> I only talk in a few of them
17:37 < int0x1C8> a server I used to lurk on had an idlerpg channel for that
17:38 <+CheckYourSix> I never even look at most of them
17:42 < ThatOneRoadie> CheckYourSix, I think I'm in 150ish channels
17:42 <@dbcc> im in 3
17:44 < abakedapplepie> you guys see this? https://www.frontrow.com/
17:44 < abakedapplepie> ubiquiti made a camera pocketwatch
17:44 < abakedapplepie> lol
17:47 < int0x1C8> oh yeah I saw that thing
17:48 < int0x1C8> now all the glassholes will get bling
17:48 < estranger> what the hell is alpine linux
17:48 < sw1tchmod> lol
17:48 < sw1tchmod> that'd be funny if you're riding your back and it keeps flipping back and forth between the area in front of you and it blacking out by swinging around onto your chest
17:49 < sw1tchmod> not get the intended action when you're doing sports
17:49 < Heresiarch> estranger: super-minimal distro, usually used as a base for docker containers.
17:49 < sw1tchmod> might as well strap a go pro strapped to your head to get a better view
17:50 < estranger> yeah.. googling it, Heresiarch ... similar to coreos?
17:50 < Heresiarch> estranger: isn't coreos more used as a pseudo-hypervisor for containers?
17:50 < estranger> just a minimal linux distro
17:51 < Heresiarch> ah. Similar, but it seems like coreos is more oriented toward being a platform for k8s.
17:52 < estranger> it is.. so alpine is more general use oriented
17:52 < Heresiarch> yah.
17:53 < ThatOneRoadie> the new unifi cameras look pretty good though
17:53 < ThatOneRoadie> https://unifi-video.ubnt.com/g3-flex
17:53 < ThatOneRoadie> $79 each, 1080p with IR Illuminators and PoE
17:53 < ThatOneRoadie> Desk, wall, pole, ceiling, conduit
17:56 < int0x1C8> oh sweet
17:57 < SynMonger> $80 for ptz? I'll take a few
17:57 < int0x1C8> I had been planning replacements for all our retail cameras, I'll just wait for these
17:59 < Nightcinder> so weird issue
17:59 < Nightcinder> QA woman does label approvals, while adobe is open, everything is fine, she saves the approval, closes it, and then adobe process comes back using 35% of cpu
17:59 < Nightcinder> and never goes away
18:03 < JFDkthx> you vm pipple
18:04 < JFDkthx> nevermind.
18:04 < JFDkthx> i'll jsut say this
18:04 < JFDkthx> you fucking network turds, that think every datacenter needs to be behind a fucking firewall
18:04 < JFDkthx> i fucking hate oyu
18:04 < mrghostman> wat
18:04 < ebol4> d...doesn't it
18:05 < JFDkthx> ebol4: we have 3 DCs/server rooms in a building.
18:05 < Heresiarch> JFDkthx: ...they probably can't hear you (due to blocking inbound/outbound IRC).
18:05 < JFDkthx> they are all behind individual firewalls
18:06 < JFDkthx> Heresiarch: no joke. because im ssh'd into an ec2 instance
18:09 < Sousapro> ThatOneRoadie: $80?
18:09 < JFDkthx> anyway.
18:09 < Sousapro> ThatOneRoadie: that's bananas
18:09 < ThatOneRoadie> yep
18:09 < JFDkthx> cant vmotion between datacenters in different buildings]
18:10 < ThatOneRoadie> especially for poe
18:11 < SynMonger> JFDkthx: maybe the noc guys don't like you personally, and it works fine for everyone else
18:11 < Sousapro> ThatOneRoadie: I mean, what's the downside?
18:12 < Sousapro> ThatOneRoadie: I might buy these for the house
18:12 < ThatOneRoadie> There's not a good way to mount it upside-down and keep it waterproof I guess
18:12 < SynMonger> the outdoor mounting only shows it upright
18:12 < ThatOneRoadie> yep
18:13 < ThatOneRoadie> upright only when outdoors because the mounting kit just shields the ethernet jack from rain and not total water intrusion
18:13 < ThatOneRoadie> on the flip side
18:13 < ThatOneRoadie> if it gets water in it
18:13 < ThatOneRoadie> who gives a fuck it's $80
18:13 < Sousapro> I mean it's $80
18:13 < ThatOneRoadie> Oh and Sousapro, no ONVIF
18:13 < SynMonger> nothing that can't be solved by creative use of a platform and some screws
18:13 < Sousapro> give it a shelf lol
18:13 < ThatOneRoadie> so you'll have to use unifi video to record for the moment
18:13 < ThatOneRoadie> no third-party recording/streaming yet
18:14 < Sousapro> ThatOneRoadie: I mean you need unifi video to control it anyway right?
18:14 < ThatOneRoadie> though I think the cameras can RTSP stream
18:14 < ThatOneRoadie> Sousapro, if they supported ONVIF you could use whatever you want
18:14 < Sousapro> this sounds like it beats the hell out of hickvision
18:14 < Sousapro> :P
18:14 < ThatOneRoadie> hell, my $600 cisco IP Cams support ONVIF
18:14 < ThatOneRoadie> and they're cisco
18:14 < ThatOneRoadie> famous for first-party-only software
18:14 < Sousapro> I don't mind being vendor locked for $80
18:14 < Sousapro> and no monthly cost
18:14 < ThatOneRoadie> true
18:15 < ThatOneRoadie> and you can install unifi video on whatever you damn well please
18:15 < ThatOneRoadie> you don't need to buy their NVR
18:17 < Sousapro> That's the plan
18:19 < vinrock> they found the thai kids lost in the cave
18:19 < vinrock> sounds like everyone is ok
18:19 < vinrock> hail satan
18:19 < SynMonger> well that's one less thing to worry about
18:20 < grumplestiltzkin> ThatOneRoadie: could a plastic bag and ziptie be the solution to our problem?
18:21 < SynMonger> spray neverwet on it, problem solved
18:21 < grumplestiltzkin> SynMonger: Oh, yeah, teh stuff from like REI?  yeah.  some seam-sealer and that should do teh trick
18:23 < SynMonger> I use rope caulk and electrical tape to weatherproof cable connections outdoors
18:23 < vinrock> slather it in dielectric grease
18:23 < vinrock> just a big sloppy pile of the stuff
18:24 < vinrock> and then add double to that
18:24 < SynMonger> kinky
18:24 < vinrock> ikr
18:29 < asimon> Aw hell yeah
18:30 < corn266> Anyone notice how LibreOffice gives you a tutorial by breaking all your documents and forcing you to fix them?
18:30 < asimon> Found some code online to replace text in docx's using a regex match
18:36 < scwizard> hmm it's good this is a 2 day work week for me
18:37 < scwizard> because it's shaping up to be an off week
18:37 < abakedapplepie> presumably if youre mounting the camera upside down its against a hard surface (a ceiling or soffit) so im sure its still fairly weatherproof
18:37 < scwizard> man I should really go to therapy at some point my brain hates me :(
18:37 < abakedapplepie> unless you regularly experience rain falling upward
18:37 < abakedapplepie> like in a hurricane
18:37 < abakedapplepie> lol
18:37 < Heresiarch> nah, hurricanes it falls sideways.
18:37 < JFDkthx> scwizard: kick it out. that will prove whose boss
18:37 < scwizard> close to the eye it goes in all directions including up
18:38 < JFDkthx> who's
18:38 < abakedapplepie> i got a dome camera on the cheap, its outside on a soffet, no problems
18:38 < abakedapplepie> although not cheaper than the flex mount, wish that was vailable last year
18:43 < abakedapplepie> i love that it comes in a digital camo
18:43 < abakedapplepie> lol
18:47 < scwizard> my body is hating me too now :(
18:50 < Sousapro> abakedapplepie: I need that for my apartment
18:50 < technonerd> It's like everybody took this week off work
18:51 < Katnip> https://www.zdnet.com/pictures/1968-2018-50-years-of-technology-breakthroughs/
18:52 < Sousapro> technonerd: one week of vacation for 32 hours of PTO
18:53 < corn266> Katnip, r/savedyouaclick
18:53 < Sousapro> this can of coke says: "Share a Coke with a Tailgater"
18:53 < Sousapro> I'd like to do that while riding my motorcycle
18:53  * Sousapro throws full can of coke zero at jerk's windshield
18:55 < ThatOneRoadie> Welp
18:55 < ThatOneRoadie> my Compellent's Tier 1 storage filled up
18:55 < ThatOneRoadie> fml
18:56 < mrghostman> i just sent all my compellent shit to surplus
18:56 < Sousapro> Compellent </3
18:56 < Sousapro> RIP
18:58 < Casteil> https://i.imgur.com/QPNHvaA.png
19:00 < threwahway> wat?
19:00 < vinrock> wat
19:00 < vinrock> in the butt
19:00 < threwahway> compellent was pretty rock solid IIRC?
19:01 < vinrock> you guys see that porsche just set a new nurburgring lap record
19:01 < vinrock> and its just silly
19:02 < threwahway> i dont care about new lap records until one of them makes a car that can turn itself using ant-gravity or something
19:02 < vinrock> this one is pretty close
19:02 < adamb> me> This won't work quite yet as I'm still configuring permissions, but you'll be able to log into the environment tomorrow from this URL:
19:02 < adamb> them> We just tried the URL and it gave us a permission error, we really need this by tomorrow, can you fix?
19:02 < vinrock> lap record was like 6:15 in a porsche 962, they just did a 5:19
19:03 < threwahway> listen until its floating and using renewable cold fusion or something i really just DGAF
19:03 < grumplestiltzkin> wait wat?
19:03 < grumplestiltzkin> a full minute lower?
19:03 < vinrock> yeah man
19:03 < vinrock> there's an onboard video up on yt
19:03 < vinrock> its straight up rediculous
19:03 < grumplestiltzkin> balls thats fast.   was it literally on rails?
19:04 < vinrock> they built an evo of the 919 lmp car with 1160 combined hp, like -90lbs and active aero
19:04 < vinrock> it looks like the hardest accelerating car on the face of the erarth
19:04 < vinrock> 230mph in the straight
19:04 < vinrock> 170mph over the flugplatz
19:05 < threwahway> but who cares about that. the obvious advancements are in breaking and handling
19:05 < threwahway> cars have done that for a while
19:05 < technonerd> 1k on all 4 wheels
19:05 < technonerd> Jesus
19:06 < grumplestiltzkin> yeah, the 'go fast' doesn't help unless you can keep it around the corners
19:06 < vinrock> well in braking and handling the car can be driven flat-out in places no other car ever could
19:06 < threwahway> thats what im saying
19:06 < vinrock> the driver said it was like a whole new experience, never drove anything like it
19:06 < threwahway> who cares about 230 in the straight a lot of cars can do that now
19:06 < grumplestiltzkin> but it doesnt hurt
19:06 < vinrock> yeah but not handle like theyre on rails as well
19:06 < threwahway> DUDE
19:06 < threwahway> thats what i said.
19:07 < threwahway> lets get a chevy aveo going 230 in the straight then ill be impressed :D
19:09 < felda> cryptic1 puts his pants all the way to the ground when he uses the urinal.  something about feeling free and fresh
19:09 < abakedapplepie> Aveos can hardly do 23
19:09 < abakedapplepie> let alone 230
19:09 < abakedapplepie> what a shit car
19:09 < threwahway> hahah
19:09 <@cryptic1> is that wrong felda ?
19:09 < felda> nah it actually feels pretty good
19:09 < vinrock> oh god they still made thos rthings all the way til 2011
19:10 < felda> sometimes when I poop I take my shirt off for the extra power
19:10 < technonerd> The butters method
19:10 < abakedapplepie> pretty sure they still use the platform for other cars
19:10 < vinrock> i do the same felda
19:10 < vinrock> except to rub ,my nips unabated
19:10 < threwahway> Let's make my honda fit do 230 :D :D :D
19:10 < abakedapplepie> or, it was used for other cars, hopefully not now
19:12 < felda> how to know if you are old:  if you fart while peeing you are old
19:13 < mrghostman> s/old/dont give a shit
19:13 < abakedapplepie> what does farting while peeing have to do with anything
19:13 < abakedapplepie> lol
19:13 < felda> IT MEANS UR OLD
19:14 < abakedapplepie> brb farting and peeing
19:14 < asimon> Why does anyone care about going 230 in a commercial car?
19:14 < felda> that or you have a lot of protein/fiber in your diet
19:14 < grumplestiltzkin> !status felda.io
19:14 < abakedapplepie> i dont think anyone does
19:14 < asimon> Speed limits are like 70 max if you're in the us
19:14 < abakedapplepie> pfft
19:14 < abakedapplepie> thats never stopped me before
19:14 < JFDkthx> felda: relevant.
19:14 < Heresiarch> asimon: carpeen
19:14 < JFDkthx> i was just pooping
19:14 < abakedapplepie> also the max speed limit in the US is 85
19:14 < abakedapplepie> through portions of the plains
19:14 < asimon> +1 Heresiarch
19:14 < JFDkthx> and someone peeing at the urinal farted, and pooped their pants.
19:14 < grumplestiltzkin> iirc the tollway aorund Austin is 80 or 85
19:14 < felda> LMAO
19:14 < grumplestiltzkin> but thats not normal
19:14 < JFDkthx> because he went from the urinal directly into the stall
19:14 < felda> you must maintain sphincter control at all times
19:14 < abakedapplepie> i did 85 west of omaha, and i know theres another stretch in wyoming
19:15 < felda> I take my farts slow
19:15 < JFDkthx> grumplestiltzkin: from SA to austiin its 85 aintit
19:15 < felda> let them squeak out just so I make sure I don't shit my pants
19:15 < abakedapplepie> and the indian lands basically dont have a speed limit, in my experience
19:15 < abakedapplepie> went 135 out to grand canyon
19:15 < asimon> I got a ticket doing 85 in delaware but thats only because I was trying to make it through the state in under 15 mins
19:15 < JFDkthx> felda: me and another guy were in there playing battleshits
19:15 < JFDkthx> this guy wanted to chime in
19:15 < felda> u sunk my battleshit
19:15 < abakedapplepie> but i think that depends heavily on what reservation youre on
19:15 < JFDkthx> abakedapplepie: man fuck that shit coming from flagstaff
19:16 < grumplestiltzkin> JFDkthx: Idontbelieveyou.gif
19:16 < JFDkthx> 1 lane each way people going 90 in the middle of the night
19:16 < JFDkthx> pissed me off
19:16 < abakedapplepie> ah this is the freeway out to the indian side of the grand canyon coming from las vegas
19:16 < JFDkthx> grumplestiltzkin: that was the new toll road that they had just opened back in uh 2013?
19:16 < abakedapplepie> did 120-150 the whole way
19:16 < abakedapplepie> lol
19:16 < abakedapplepie> along with like 5 other cars
19:16 < grumplestiltzkin> not that - i disbelieve you played battleshits at work
19:16 < abakedapplepie> each taking turns in the lead
19:16 < JFDkthx> oh
19:17 < DoctorDick> You talking about SH45 in Austin?
19:17 < DoctorDick> The speed limit is 80
19:17 < grumplestiltzkin> I don't remember the limit between Austin and SA
19:17 < DoctorDick> If its SH45 its 80
19:18 < grumplestiltzkin> is that the bypass that goes totally around Austin?
19:18 < grumplestiltzkin> with like a $10 toll
19:18 < DoctorDick> Nope
19:19 < DoctorDick> That's loop 1
19:19 < DoctorDick> And the speed limit is 65
19:20 < onenerdyguy> mornin/afternoon/what have you
19:20 < grumplestiltzkin> And a pleasant dusk to you
19:21 <+DrGibby|> happy dickbutt to y'all
19:21 < grumplestiltzkin> is it national dickbutt day already?
19:22 < onenerdyguy> grumplestiltzkin, that's every day
19:22 < grumplestiltzkin> https://i.redd.it/3g35a21u4q8y.jpg
19:24 < grumplestiltzkin> french bank-robbing gangster breaks out of prison with a helicopter https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/07/02/gangster-redoine-faid-escapes-french-prison-hijacked-helicopter/750279002/
19:25 <+CheckYourSix> Damn
19:25 < abakedapplepie> damn
19:25 < abakedapplepie> baller
19:25 < abakedapplepie> no word of a fight even?
19:25 < abakedapplepie> they just let them do their thing lol
19:26 < JFDkthx> its the french...
19:26 < JFDkthx> surrendering is the meme
19:26 < grumplestiltzkin> the story says they helicopterjacked, kept the pilot, landed at the prison, grinded through the door and used smoke to obscure video while grabbing him (from visitation)
19:28 < asimon> I have a career question
19:28 < adamb> get out while you can
19:29 < JFDkthx> kek
19:29 < asimon> How can I start modeling for technology stock images like this https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2016/08/18/nists-new-password-rules-what-you-need-to-know/
19:29 < JFDkthx> well its naked
19:29 < asimon> Who makes those images
19:29 < JFDkthx> so
19:29 < JFDkthx> send them noods
19:29 < JFDkthx> sales@sophos.com
19:29 < asimon> I want to look like a super cool hacker guy
19:29 < ekaj_> Has anyone done custom MAC algorithms in Nessus scans?
19:30 < ekaj_> well not custom but adding to the default ones provided
19:30 < grumplestiltzkin> thats the new VR interface for a gibson
19:30 < JFDkthx> Applications must allow all printable ASCII characters, including spaces, and should accept all UNICODE characters, too, including emoji!
19:30 < JFDkthx> kek
19:31 < DLSteve> So basically UTF-8?
19:31 < alazare619> imo passwords need to die
19:31 < alazare619> like flash, java etc
19:31 < alazare619> and instead just allow us to use pin auth
19:32 < DLSteve> pin auth?
19:32 < alazare619> i.e. you wana login sure here let me contact your device you verify and walla
19:32 < alazare619> fuck passwords
19:32 < felda> s/passwords/I
19:32 < felda> DAMN YOU
19:32 < JFDkthx> felda: got em
19:32 < alazare619> 2 factor auth should be single factor and thats a phone or something else
19:32 < felda> imo alazare619 need to die
19:32 < grumplestiltzkin> emoji probably shouldn't be used. but like ..  users gonna use.   you want your paswrord to be 15 poops, more power to you
19:32 < felda> lmao
19:32 < JFDkthx> grumplestiltzkin: 64 poops tyvm
19:32 < felda> is that even allowed?
19:32 < JFDkthx> yeah
19:33 < grumplestiltzkin> 15 poops and 1 poopsmith
19:33 < alazare619> s/alazare619/JFDkthx
19:34 < JFDkthx> felda: need to integrate BTTV
19:34 < felda> Better Twitch TV addon?
19:35 < JFDkthx> yeh
19:35 < felda> Twitch is for losers
19:35 < JFDkthx> u on mixer now
19:35 < JFDkthx> dont act like u hot
19:35 < JFDkthx> cuz u not
19:35 < grumplestiltzkin> speaking of: is hulu a valid replacement for netflix?
19:35 < alazare619> no
19:35 < felda> JFDkthx ayyy lmao when I need a super computer and 1gbps to stream 1080p 60FPS from Twitch something is fucked up
19:35 < JFDkthx> do you like netflix originals?
19:36 < alazare619> best replacement for netflix is netflix
19:36 < grumplestiltzkin> mpt especially
19:36 < grumplestiltzkin> not*
19:36 < JFDkthx> if you dont like netflix originals, and also want hbo n shit
19:36 < grumplestiltzkin> and thye are getting worse
19:36 < JFDkthx> then hulu is great
19:36 < Hatter> hulu stinx
19:36 < Hatter> why hasn't netflix bought them yet?
19:36 < JFDkthx> hulu is a good replacement for cable tv.
19:37 < Hatter> JFDkthx: you know what's a better replacement? A good book.
19:37 < Hatter> just kidding
19:37 < JFDkthx> Hatter: i read everyday
19:37 < alazare619> inb4 disney buys netflix
19:38 < grumplestiltzkin> or amazon
19:38 < JFDkthx> grumplestiltzkin: plus you can get cable package through hulu, AND not have commercials
19:38 < alazare619> like this year alone
19:38 < alazare619> disney as purhcased lucas films
19:38 < alazare619> fox
19:38 < alazare619> wwe
19:38 < alazare619> like whats next...
19:38 < grumplestiltzkin> hm.   so disney is teh real skynet
19:38 < JFDkthx> you act like it's a bad thing
19:39 < JFDkthx> look at the great series that is the mcu
19:39 < JFDkthx> and the okay series SW
19:39 < grumplestiltzkin> well yeah - when theres less competition, you don't have as many choices.
19:39 < JFDkthx> psh
19:39 < JFDkthx> plenty of competition
19:39 < JFDkthx> unless you're in the DCU
19:39 < JFDkthx> because all of that is garbage
19:40 < grumplestiltzkin> wat
19:40 < JFDkthx> superman can superfuck himself
19:40 < grumplestiltzkin> I'm talking about just video services
19:40 < JFDkthx> oh
19:40 < JFDkthx> sure
19:40 < JFDkthx> sure
19:40 < alazare619> JFDkthx: oh i'm happy disney owns marvel and fox
19:41 < grumplestiltzkin> I havent seen infinity wars, or the last 2 starwars movies
19:41 < alazare619> we might see before the creator passes a final mashup
19:41 < alazare619> with xmen and fantastic 4 and guardians of the galaxy etc  a giant Marvel fight
19:41 < JFDkthx> grumplestiltzkin: standalone SW movies are filler.
19:41 < grumplestiltzkin> will mickey mouse be in the next marvel vs. capcom?
19:41 < DLSteve> I kinda hope they keep X-Men separate tbh.
19:41 < JFDkthx> but it's filler in a universe that i enjoy.
19:42 < Hatter> do you know which movie I thought turned out pretty good?
19:42 < Hatter> The Godfather
19:42 < grumplestiltzkin> I kind of wanted to see the han solo backstory too, but then it got all politics and I lost interest
19:43 < alazare619> JFDkthx: i'm just hoping we see donald duck and howard the duck have a movie together
19:43 < grumplestiltzkin> like donald is from howards planet originally?
19:44 < alazare619> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_the_Duck
19:44 < alazare619> grumplestiltzkin:  possibly
19:45 < grumplestiltzkin> that art looks *just* like donald, good call
19:46 < grumplestiltzkin> wasn't darkwing in the ducktales universe?
19:48 < grumplestiltzkin> oh. no.  the creator syas specifically tey are 2 separate universes, or were originally
19:51 < Bru-> morn
19:51 < grumplestiltzkin> even though there are a bunch of character crossovers
19:56 < admiralspark> Morning all
19:57 < admiralspark> new 0-day office trojan coming in as "invoice.doc" in email attachments. Only a few vendors detecting it right now.
19:57 < admiralspark> maybe want to check spam filter logs :)
19:57 <+TuxedoJack> admiralspark: easy solution. FUCKING BLOCK OLD FUCKING GODDAMN FUCKING OFFICE EXTENSIONS
19:57 < admiralspark> https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/99e5d62bf30a17c4ce8ba5720573338a4cb26863d17a0f61e370618fc5e75adf/detection
19:57 < admiralspark> hahahaha
19:57 <+TuxedoJack> Like people should have been fucking doing for the past 5 years
19:57 <+TuxedoJack> Except the goddamn shitfuckers at iManage fuck everyone over
19:58 < admiralspark> TuxedoJack: but my C-levels say there's a business reason!
19:58 <+TuxedoJack> And refuse to use anything else
19:58 < admiralspark> yep
19:58 < Bru-> admiralspark: "can i get that in writing please?"
19:58 < admiralspark> Vendors and old execs man
19:58 < admiralspark> Bru-: I do, long since CYA'd it :)
19:58 < Bru-> :D
19:58 < admiralspark> ;)
19:58  * Bru- wipes hands
19:58 < admiralspark> yep
19:59 < Bru-> :D
19:59 < Bru-> i worked for a company and became PCI compliant by unplugging CC reader from LAN
19:59 < Bru-> plugging into RJ11
19:59 < Bru-> lolol
19:59 < sideup66> Wat
19:59 < sideup66> Wait what
20:00 < sideup66> So having a cc reader on rj45 is bad?
20:00 < Bru-> no
20:00 < sideup66> In a small outfit in my case
20:00 < admiralspark> Bru-: I'm actually looking to do the opposite, remove the last POTS lines and stuff it in a dedicated PCI LAN
20:00 < Bru-> you just need to do more things to "secure" it
20:00 < Bru-> VLAN it off
20:00 < Bru-> they took the lazy route is what im saying
20:00 < Bru-> but technically compliant
20:00 < admiralspark> sideup66: if you have a computer that can reach the device, it's in scope
20:00 < admiralspark> Crit 1 scope, actually
20:01 < Bru-> gotta have it sealed off from main LAN
20:01 < admiralspark> Bru-: how does your software authenticate that a card succeeded?
20:01 < admiralspark> token?
20:01 < sideup66> Oh, I set a card reader for someone, have a secured wifi ap and a desktop on Linux as well on the same lan
20:01 < sideup66> It's beyond a basic setup
20:01 < Bru-> they contracted it off to firstdata
20:01 < sideup66> Good to know, so I'll have to check into that...
20:01 < admiralspark> sideup66: That's all in scope
20:01 < sideup66> Fak
20:02 < Bru-> tunnel that bitch off sideup66
20:02 < admiralspark> haha, ping me if you have questions. Bru- is right, it's fairly easy to mitigate if need be
20:02 < sideup66> Yeah, I'm gonna
20:02 < Bru-> admiralspark: machine did handshakes with firstdata
20:02 < Bru-> so we got confirmation, etc right there
20:02 < w1cked> admiralspark I only see one report in a web search. Is this documented somewhere?
20:02 < sideup66> I gotta get the router (cheap consumer grade one) into another fw first
20:02 < sideup66> It's consumer grade, stock sure as hell won't do that
20:02 < Bru-> yeah DDWRT maybe
20:03 < sideup66> Won't take that
20:03 < Bru-> damn
20:03 < sideup66> Nor tomato, I looked
20:03 < sideup66> Might be openwrt
20:03 < w1cked> you bought a potato
20:03 < sideup66> Yeah, well it's just one guy in a local auto shop
20:03 < Bru-> score a cheap l3 switch off ebay
20:04 < sideup66> So he wanted a cheap potato
20:04 < w1cked> lol
20:04 < sideup66> He won't put much into it
20:04 < w1cked> can't hack the one his isp gave him?
20:04 < Bru-> MSP life
20:04 < sideup66> I didn't know better honestly
20:04 < sideup66> Bru-: nah, one port, shitty dsl modem
20:05 < w1cked> oof
20:05 < sideup66> The PC on the lan is Linux, auto patched
20:05 < sideup66> I did that at least
20:05 < sideup66> I'm gonna pray openwrt has a build, it's a shitty belkin
20:05 < sideup66> And try to vlan off the card reader
20:06 < sideup66> If not suggest a router that is capable of dd-wrt or something to him
20:06 < Bru-> at least on those, vlan separates it completely on l2
20:06 < Bru-> lol
20:06 < sideup66> Just a bitch to have it update
20:06 < Bru-> since it probably wont support inter-vlan routing
20:08 < sideup66> Yeah, if I can get custom, I can do that
20:08 < sideup66> I just feel stupid, I just saw oh it's got a nic!, Click, test, done
20:09 < sideup66> I mean the modem isn't being a router Bru-
20:10 < Bru-> yeah
20:10 < Bru-> can you do vlans on the belkin with native?
20:10 < alazare619> bad wolves - zombie sounds so much like disturbed
20:11 < sideup66> Don't think so, I'm gonna look
20:11 < sideup66> But the thing is the basic bitch package
20:12 < sideup66> I'll look next week, I'm oncall then, so I'll have time to go see him
20:14 < Bru-> might not be too much work
20:14 < Bru-> if just one pc
20:15 < noob> hello, do anyone see what I say? im pretty new here
20:16 < ebol4> yes sir
20:17 < sideup66> It shouldn't be
20:17 < sideup66> It's literally that, one pc, and him and his helpers phone sometimes on the network
20:17 < sideup66> That's it usuallh
20:17 < sideup66> Why I'm not gonna freak, but you are right, incase someone gets in, it should be vlaned as an extra layer
20:18 < alazare619> is 3 days grace an emo band?
20:18 < ebol4> nope
20:18 < Bru-> as long as nothing can communicate with it
20:18 < alazare619> someone here is trying to tell me they are emo...
20:18 < ebol4> emo is like sunny day real estate and shit
20:18 < alazare619> i really just wana punch em in the face
20:18 < Heresiarch> alazare619: they used to be classified as such.
20:18 < dbtst> I have a very specific question. Is it possible to connect huawei b310s-927 to another wifi? (it already connects wirelessly to provider)
20:18 < sideup66> Hopefully the stock provisions for vlans (doubtful)
20:18 < Bru-> sideup66: and no CC numbers in files on the network
20:18 < sideup66> No nas
20:18 < Bru-> or PC
20:18 < alazare619> Heresiarch: what
20:18 < alazare619> 3 days grace predates emo
20:18 < sideup66> Computer does nothing with payments
20:18 < Bru-> yeah youll be aight
20:18 < sideup66> So it won't have any of that
20:19 < alazare619> and they are more like metalcore much like BFMV
20:19 < sideup66> And it's nix based
20:19 < sideup66> So I idiot proofed it pretty good
20:19 < Bru-> looks like all you need to do is just vlan that cc machine off
20:19 < Bru-> possibly static IP it depending on features
20:21 < sideup66> The machine can do static
20:22 < Bru-> the CC machine?
20:23 < JFDkthx> 7 minutes
20:23 < JFDkthx> hoes
20:23 < felda> can you guys ping time.windows.com ???
20:24 < dbtst> (I wasnt registered back then, so maybe you didnt see it, but here is my question again) Is it possible to connect huawei b310s-927 to another routers wifi? (instead of current internet provider)
20:24 < Bru-> it resolves but no response
20:24 < Bru-> felda:
20:24 < felda> my whole domain is now off by 5 minutes D:
20:24 < sideup66> I'll create that, try to mac blacklist the reader on the other lan
20:25 < grumplestiltzkin> felda.io having time issues?
20:25 < sideup66> And yes Bru-the cc machine can
20:26 < Bru-> sideup66: bitchin
20:26 < felda> grumplestiltzkin nah this is my work domain
20:26 < Bru-> job should be ezpz if you can create vlans on the switch
20:26 < grumplestiltzkin> wait
20:26 < grumplestiltzkin> felda.io isnt your work domain?
20:26 < adamb> no ping, but
20:26 < adamb> adamb@Andromeda-Ascendant ~ $ sudo ntpdate time.windows.com
20:26 < adamb> Password:
20:26 < adamb>  2 Jul 19:26:13 ntpdate[88050]: adjust time server 51.141.32.51 offset 0.001410 sec
20:26 < felda> nah fam
20:26 < grumplestiltzkin> my whole world is built on lies
20:26 < felda> adamb so it is working for you?
20:26 < adamb> on ntp yes, ping is unresponsive
20:27 < felda> my windows domain server just told me it couldn't connect to time.windows.com so I've been trying to tinker
20:27 < dbtst> i cant ping it either
20:27 < JFDkthx> dbtst: the phone?
20:27 < JFDkthx> what are those
20:27 < dbtst> no, the router
20:27 < Heresiarch> ping isn't determinative of whether the IP responds to a given service.
20:27 < JFDkthx> or
20:27 < JFDkthx> routers
20:27 < Bru-> use powershell
20:27 < Bru-> test-connections IP:Port
20:27 < JFDkthx> telnet time.windows.com
20:29 < dbtst> JFDkthx: the router
20:29 < JFDkthx> yeah, no idea bub.
20:30 < dbtst> it catches providers network with sim card (or maybe identifies, im not sure?)
20:33 < asimon> `bofh
20:35 < ebol4> B O T B R O K E
20:35 < asimon> Shitty ass bot
20:37 < sideup66> Thanks Bru-, may also work if it doesn't support vlans but supports guest wifi networks that may work too if created and hidden, and just give the reader a static IP in that lan
20:38 < Hempux> Good evening folks
20:40 <+SpeakerToMeat> Is anybody here prescient?
20:40 < alazare619> who uses time.windows.com
20:40 < alazare619> fuck that jazz
20:40 < alazare619> pool.ntp.org plebs
20:41 < adamb> sounds like someone doesn't own a GPS clock
20:45 < Bru-> sideup66: that wouldnt still be out of compliance though
20:45 < Bru-> since same LAN
20:48 < Hempux> What kind of use case warrants paying for a GPS clock appliance thingy?
20:49 < adamb> 18 million users
20:50 < Hempux> That is a lot of people
20:51 < adamb> people tend to get upset if services are down because the clock is wrong, so it's a worthwhile investment at scale
20:51 < Bru-> who has 18m users adamb ?
20:52 < Hempux> Whatever happeneted to mandrake and slack linux?
20:52 < Bru-> right?
20:53 < Heresiarch> slackware's still around. Mandrake died due to lack of interest, iirc.
20:54 < adamb> The marketing department say we do :)
20:54 < adamb> Slackware being around is questionable... last major release was 2016
20:54 < adamb> If it was a person we could declare it legally dead and cash in the life insurance
20:55 < DLSteve> adamb, Thats when they perfected it, updates are no longer necessary.
20:57 < Heresiarch> hmm. Seems like they're still working on updates for the unstable branch.
20:59 < adamb> Kernel 4.14 in unstable, not exactly bleeing edge
20:59 < adamb> I wonder if slack can run on slackware...
21:07 <+SpeakerToMeat> Should rsync on linux be able to copy files from one ntfs to another ntfs preserving links and stuff?
21:08 < grumplestiltzkin> slax fell off iirc
21:08 < adamb> You using fuse? Prooobably not.
21:09 < adamb> the NTFS stuff gets mapped to unixy stuff
21:09 < grumplestiltzkin> I want to say it was an even lighter-weight slackware, but I had never used it
21:09 <@mistiry> why are you using ntfs with linux? if dealing with windows, there's robocopy or i think even an rsync for windows implementation
21:09 < adamb> If I cared about the data though I wouldn't consult the opinion of random weirdo's on the internet - I'd try it and make sure it's done what it's supposed to
21:10 < genr8_> SpeakerToMeat: no, i dont think the links get preserved on linux
21:11 < genr8_> theres a -l option for preserve links
21:11 < genr8_> man page: https://puu.sh/APMgV/d13c2ad2de.png
21:12 < genr8_> probably some combination of L's and K's
21:13 < adamb> I think the question is more "does FUSE present NTFS links as sym/hard links or does it pretend they're just files or does it just not work with them at all"
21:13 < alazare619> pretty sure unraid uses slackware as a backend
21:14 < genr8_> what makes you think its fuse ?
21:14 < genr8_> and not ntfs3g
21:15 < genr8_> i know that one does read them. i would be concerned about writing links back to NTFS
21:15 < abakedapplepie> i get concerned writing anything back to ntfs from linux
21:15 < abakedapplepie> lol
21:15 < genr8_> There are three types of file links supported in the NTFS file system: hard links, junctions, and symbolic links.
21:16 < genr8_> also i just find out NTFS3G _is_ FUSE
21:16 < genr8_> or runs it / uses it /  w/e
21:16 < abakedapplepie> i thought fuse was ntfs3g but built for osx
21:17 < abakedapplepie> oh its not at all
21:18 < genr8_> FUSE is a generic layer
21:18 <+SpeakerToMeat> adamb: I thinkt he response there is yes (about fuse)
21:18 <+SpeakerToMeat> genr8_: Because ntfs-3g is fuse
21:18 <+SpeakerToMeat> well it uses fuse
21:18 <+SpeakerToMeat> and yes it's down to ntfs-3g really
21:19 < adamb> I wouldn't risk it myself, storage is one doodle that can't be undid when it goes wrong
21:20 < estranger> Fuse is oof
21:45 < onenerdyguy> any Hyper-V guys here quick
21:47 < vinrock> https://dl.packetstormsecurity.net/1607-exploits/axis-vulns.pdf
21:47 < vinrock> hide yo kids hide yo wife
21:47 < vinrock> they hackin axis cameras up in here
21:48 < gnupluslinux> Hyper+V
21:48 < gnupluslinux> +Hyper
21:49 <@dbcc> onenerdyguy, sup
21:49 < onenerdyguy> dbcc, trying to find a way to allow a certain Security group's members to access the settings and direct console connection for only a few vm's, not everything
21:49 <@dbcc> not possible unless your using SCVMM, theres no built in usergroup or security functionality
21:50 < onenerdyguy> dang, thats what i thought
21:50 <@dbcc> might wanna tkae a look at WAC and see if that offers a solution
21:50 <@dbcc> i havent played with it much tho
21:50 < wac> sorry what now?
21:50 <@dbcc> kek
21:50 < gnupluslinux> Can you segregate to a diff host?
22:00 < ekaj_> Anyone familiar with SSHing to Cisco VCS devices?
22:01 < adamb> I did one time, don't recall anything special about it
22:01 < ekaj_> having trouble getting non admin/root ssh access
22:02 < ekaj_> actually trouble with admin access as well
22:03 < adamb> I can confirm it's possible, my lastpass folder still has the credential in it, unfortunately the device has gone to silicon heaven
22:03 < adamb> so I can't pull the config
22:03 < ekaj_> well I just got admin access, someone had the incorrect password in the tracker
22:04 < ekaj_> so I'll start to hack away at the non-admin account
22:04 < adamb> do yours just randomly lock up a few times a year like ours did?
22:07 < ekaj_> and need factory reset? yes
22:07 < adamb> fantastic, good to know it wasn't just our ones
22:11 < Alternity> guys, stop putting generic shit on your resumes
22:11 < Alternity> we want specifics
22:11 < DLSteve> like?
22:11 < Alternity> 'Managed upgrades and repairs with vendors' means absolutely nothing to me
22:11 < genr8_> resumes would be 10 pages long
22:11 < ekaj_> I saw a resume for a younger person the other day.. honestly felt kind of bad for him :/
22:12 < onenerdyguy1> ekaj_, as somsone who regularly sits on hiring boards, yeah. it's bad
22:12 < Alternity> genr8_: it should be highlights, not every project
22:12 < adamb> I've not done much on the recruiting side, but I have learned that resumes are junk
22:13 < AnimalFarmPig> "Implemented networked survey creation, data entry, and analysis system in Python 2.5 using only the standard library, resulting in 90% reduction in data entry and analysis time compared to legacy solution."
22:13 < DLSteve> I mean if you have little relevant experience you have to fluff it a little.
22:13 < Alternity> if you are at a place 2 years, list out the 3 or 4 biggest projects you worked on.
22:13 < AnimalFarmPig> ^ good resume entry
22:13 < AnimalFarmPig> "Wrote a survey program" <-- bad entry
22:13 < Alternity> DLSteve: honestly i would totally take homelab or personal github contributions
22:13 < adamb> I've interviewed people with poor resumes who we made an offer to, and people with excellent ones that turned out to totally bomb the interview
22:14 < Alternity> my friend is mid way through a CS degree, the #1 advise i have for him is he should already be working on his github contribs
22:14 < DLSteve> Is it really worth add reduced x by y (arbitrary percentage)?
22:14 < Alternity> i would hire someone with an impressive github and zero work exp and degree over a fresh CS grad
22:14 < Alternity> DLSteve: yes, thats all that businesses care about
22:14 < genr8_> DLSteve: yes ive heard that before
22:14 < AnimalFarmPig> adamb: same. I pretty much stopped really looking at resumes at previous job, except in order to get ideas about what to talk about
22:14 < nsv> Anyone here have experience setting up a nodejs server?
22:14 < Alternity> you can elabourate on yourself during the interview
22:15 < DLSteve> I mean I can make that stuff up (not made up I just don't have percentage metrics for everything I do).
22:15 < AnimalFarmPig> DLSteve: a lot of businessmen like reading about the business outcomes of things that you do
22:15 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, you can make it up
22:15 < Alternity> ^ as long as youi can back it up in the interview
22:15 < AnimalFarmPig> but you still need to be ready to explain how
22:15 < DLSteve> Reduced costs of our directory server by 100% (I decomed it).
22:15 < Alternity> for me it's more what specific techs did you use and  how did you use them
22:15 < Alternity> Provide tech support for business tells me nothing
22:16 < AnimalFarmPig> I have stuff in my CV like "Performed performance optimization on <blah blah blah> resulting in up to two orders of magnitude reduction in request handling latency"
22:16 < adamb> nsv: you poor soul
22:16 < AnimalFarmPig> and I'll happily explain how that worked
22:16 < Alternity> you could be resetting AD passwords or setting up SQL Server AlwaysOn avalibliaty groups
22:16 < kronis> Afternoon, ladies and gents
22:16 < DLSteve> Alternity, I set up self service password resets :P
22:16 < JollyRgrs> GET BENT!
22:16  * ebol4 is bent
22:17 < Alternity> DLSteve: that's a great bullet point. "Setup automatic AD password resets, reduced helpdesk calls by 50%"
22:17 < kronis> My new position got officially announced today. My team had a completely blank reaction
22:17 < Alternity> shows me you're not just a monkey using ADUC all day
22:17 < kronis> One said "Oh cool" the other said, "When do you start". No congrats, nothin. Lol
22:17 < DLSteve> I use a Mac so ADUC is a no go anyway.
22:17 < AnimalFarmPig> kronis: congrats?
22:18 < Alternity> kronis: they might be jealous
22:18 < Alternity> and congrats
22:18 < adamb> nsv: When I've deployed node in a productionish setting, I've used passenger, but i wouldn't call myself an authority on it
22:18 < Alternity> hope you got a nice $$$ raise
22:18 < DLSteve> I hate ADUC so unintuitive and hides a lot of data.
22:18 < adamb> https://www.phusionpassenger.com/library/walkthroughs/basics/nodejs/fundamental_concepts.html
22:18 < kronis> Thanks, moving out of the NOC and into a NetOps spot.
22:18 < Alternity> nice, less on-call?
22:18 < Alternity> and is NetOps code for SDN?
22:18 < kronis> I actually didnt really have oncall in the NOC.
22:18 < nsv> adamb: I was trying to avoid using anything else atm. Can I not just install node and it's dependencies and launch the app as is?
22:19 < kronis> I'll be oncall in the Network Engineer spot though
22:19 < adamb> sure that will work, theough I'd hide it behind nginx reverse proxy
22:19 < kronis> Not for awhile, so that'll help the transition.
22:19 < AnimalFarmPig> is NetOps like DevOps but with nets and tridents?
22:19 < kronis> But got a raise and hourly, so I'll get paid for all the OT I'm about to pull.
22:20 < AnimalFarmPig> ooooo paid for OT, living the dream kind of
22:20 < kronis> I'll take it while I can lol
22:20 < adamb> AnimalFarmPig: I get time off in lieu, next best thing
22:21 < DLSteve> Alternity, But you bring up valid points, I should probably edit my resume some to throw some more numbers in there.
22:21 < kronis> New job, baby on the way, first house being built all in the last 45 days. Been a wild ride.
22:21 < AnimalFarmPig> adamb: yeah, that's kind of how it works informally at my position. We're not hourly, but if people work long hours for something, you don't expect to see them around much when things quiet down
22:21 < AnimalFarmPig> nice, good stuff
22:22 < kronis> Being able to call myself a Network Engineer will help for the future too lol
22:23 < Alternity> DLSteve: just reality, i wish there was a better way
22:23 < Alternity> job interview and hiring process blows all around
22:23 < kronis> Instead of a glorified incident/ticket manager on a daily basis.
22:23 < Alternity> the guy we ended up hiring for sysadmin 6 months ago had a terrible resume, but was better than every other perople we had interviewed in person
22:23 < DLSteve> Alternity, I'm good once I get an interview to be honest, I'm better at selling myself in person.
22:24 < Alternity> he wouldn't have even gotten an interview if i didn't already know him
22:24 < Alternity> DLSteve: getting to the interview is like, 80% of the battle if you know your shit :)
22:24 < Alternity> if you're in this channel you're already better than like, 75% of IT ppl imo
22:24 < genr8_> :/
22:24 < JollyRgrs> Alternity: yeah, that's def. the hardest part for me
22:24 < kronis> Getting myself in front of the manager was my heel. Most places saw my resume and just said I wasn't qualified.
22:24 < JollyRgrs> once i get the interview, it is a pretty good chance
22:25 < Alternity> anyone in here knows the importance of things like powershell, bash, python, automation and security practices
22:25 < Alternity> things that half of the old crusty IT ppl think is just a fad
22:25 < DLSteve> Alternity, Yah I have been playing the contact angle, lot of my past interviews the resume was a formality for HR, I still should put some effort into it though.
22:25 < kronis> Solution: Only hire people who browse /r/sysadmin
22:25 < kronis> Boom, done.
22:25 < Alternity> DLSteve: networking is the best way ofc :P, but not always easy
22:25 < Alternity> kronis: the sysadmin we hired 6 months ago was from this channel :)
22:25 < JollyRgrs> Alternity: my abilities to script random things and google-fu others is 2nd to not many
22:25 < Alternity> he's doing awesome
22:26 < adamb> kronis: need a codeword put into the sidebar, like "shibboleet"
22:26 < DLSteve> Alternity, I mainly build automation tooling for InfoSec so I'm good on that front lol
22:27 < Alternity> speaking of which, anyone here around western north carolina who is looking for a windows sys admin job PM me
22:27 < kronis> SCP-3709-J
22:27 < xamithan> You got a linux sys job open ?
22:27 < xamithan> I can do windows somewhat but bleh
22:28 < kronis> Man, I'd love to live near Asheville
22:28 < adamb> "Will admin Windows 4 food"
22:28 < kronis> If I could do my job from Gatlinburg, I'd lose myself.
22:28 < xamithan> Thats what I hate about WNC,  there is like no linux
22:28 < Alternity> gov weather related jobs are linux
22:28 < Alternity> we have a few linux boxes, but sadly our prod stuff is all windows
22:29 < DLSteve> Isn't ReadHat based in Charlotte or something?
22:29 < onenerdyguy1> yep
22:29 < xamithan> Raleigh
22:29 < DLSteve> *RedHat
22:29 < Alternity> cary?
22:29 < onenerdyguy1> wish i could go visit there
22:29 < xamithan> Thats where I'm looking
22:29 < Alternity> triangle area is pretty decent
22:29 < Alternity> i'd avoid charlotte personally
22:29 < Alternity> kind of a shithole
22:29 < onenerdyguy1> Alternity, decent wages?
22:29 < Alternity> yup, low cost of living as well
22:29 < JollyRgrs> i like RTP
22:29 < genr8_> go to the Research Triangle in NC
22:30 < xamithan> True,  shithole
22:30 < onenerdyguy1> Alternity, free hookers and blow?
22:30 < JollyRgrs> my ex gf lived in durham and a friend in raleigh
22:30 < JollyRgrs> my sister also interend at IBM there over a summer
22:30 < DLSteve> I'm originally from Atlanta, tech industry is growing their as well.
22:30 < JollyRgrs> RTP is a nice place
22:30 < Alternity> we have a lot of ppl from atlanta
22:30 < genr8_> i would move for a job
22:30 < Alternity> who moved up to asheville
22:30 < Alternity> to get away from ATL
22:30 < xamithan> Know any good companies genr8_ ?
22:30 < JollyRgrs> genr8_: i wish i coulda moved for a job
22:30 < DLSteve> Alternity, I'm in Seattle now, I miss my low cost of living :(
22:30 < xamithan> I need more to apply to
22:31 < genr8_> yes, but not ones that would hire me
22:31 < GreyKite> There are lots of tech jobs here that won't hire me
22:31 < Alternity> maybe your resume blows
22:31 < genr8_> even small companies are in the RTP. i recently looked at "Funcom" game software development
22:31 < xamithan> Same,  I must be doing something wrong
22:31  * JollyRgrs mumbles something about that being a personal problem to GreyKite
22:31 < Alternity> can't fix personality generally :P
22:32 < Alternity> we can teach tech, can't fix your autism
22:32 < javi404> Anyone running Microsoft SQL Server in production?
22:32 < Alternity> javi404: sadly yes
22:32 < adamb> I'm sure if y'all posted a redacted resume here some smart people would tell you all the things wrong with it
22:32 < DLSteve> Alternity, What is the salary range for a DevOps person in the South?
22:32 < Alternity> itcareerquestions sub is good place to post redacted resumes
22:32 < xamithan> Depends,  is it real devops ?
22:32 < xamithan> And is it rural or in a city
22:32 < Alternity> DLSteve: dunno, depends what kinda devoops
22:32 < javi404> Alternity: sorry, i missed the important part of my question, SQL Server on Linux, in production.
22:33 < javi404> and yes, I don't like microsoft windows in production either.
22:33 < Alternity> you can certainly make 120k doing serious devops somewhere like charlotte or raleigh
22:33 < DLSteve> xamithan, real devops, building pipelines and tooling for deployments and infrastructure as code.
22:33 < Alternity> javi404: oh jeez, why.  sorry running SQL server on server 2012r2 here
22:33 < AnimalFarmPig> oooo.... SQL Server on Linux. I should try that. I want to deploy SQL Server for an internal application I'm about to start on
22:33 < xamithan> Somewhere between 75-140k DoE then
22:33 < javi404> Alternity: someone asked me, they want to cut windows server licensing costs
22:33 < Alternity> if you are running on linux just use postgres like a sane person :D
22:33 < DLSteve> Ah okay, I was not completely out of line then.
22:33 < javi404> Alternity: that would be the long term goal
22:34 < javi404> Alternity: this would be the step to get there
22:34 < xamithan> Some places try to lowball you though
22:34 < AnimalFarmPig> I'm going to be providing a backend for a PowerBI thing. Seems like SQL Server is probably best choice.
22:34 < Alternity> these days i ask for the salary range before i'll come to interview
22:34 < DLSteve> I was asking for 90 -100k and was afraid I might have scared them off.
22:34 < Alternity> they usually tell you
22:34 < JollyRgrs> Alternity: same
22:34 < JollyRgrs> Alternity: that's the first ? i ask a recruiter
22:34 < JollyRgrs> that, and if not already disclosed... is it contract or FT
22:34 < javi404> AnimalFarmPig: im gonna play around with it, as an experiment
22:34 < Alternity> i haven't used a recruiter, always annoyed that they get a fat %
22:35 < xamithan> recruiters seem to be mandatory
22:35 < JollyRgrs> Alternity: sometimes they'll get you that fat $$$ though
22:35 < Alternity> ye, might look at one for my next job
22:35 < JollyRgrs> a lot of jobs are only avail. through a recruiter
22:35 < xamithan> No one hires through other means around here
22:35 < Alternity> if i can find one i don't hate
22:35 < scwizard> xamithan: i've never gotten a job through a recruiter :(
22:35 < DLSteve> I'll talk to the company staff recruter.
22:35 < JollyRgrs> Alternity: let them come to you on linkedin
22:35 < AnimalFarmPig> javi404: let me know how it turns out. I just put in a ticket to have a Windows Server box provisioned. I might put in another one for a linux and try SQL Server on it. Which distro are you running? Ubuntu, CentOS?
22:35 < Alternity> JollyRgrs: i feel like the good ones are not spending all day spamming ppl on linkedin
22:35 < JollyRgrs> just make sure your linkedin has good SEO type things on it
22:35 <@dbcc> web 2.0
22:36 < xamithan> Depends on the recruiter.  Most of them just want to grill you for company information so they can sell you shit
22:36 < javi404> AnimalFarmPig: for this I will probably do CentOS
22:36 < JollyRgrs> Alternity: i got offered a very nice job in RTP for $130k SCCM job
22:36 <@dbcc> kubnetes
22:36 < JollyRgrs> but i could not go b/c situation at home is keeping me from relocating
22:36 <@dbcc> chef
22:36 < Alternity> nice
22:36 <@dbcc> quantum computing
22:36 < JollyRgrs> and that was from a random linkedin msg
22:36 <@dbcc> these are the keywords you need
22:36 < Alternity> learn tensorflow
22:36 < JollyRgrs> so... yeah, it can happen
22:36 < Alternity> make 7 figure salary
22:36 < JollyRgrs> dbcc: and blockchain
22:36 < xamithan> Fuck,  Am I wrong for only asking 70k then?
22:36 <@dbcc> devops
22:36 < JollyRgrs> xamithan: what are you doing and how much experience?
22:37 < xamithan> Like 5 yr mostly Nix
22:37 < Alternity> ^ use salary.com and DoL salry lists for your area
22:37 <@dbcc> JollyRgrs, microservices
22:37 < Alternity> 5 years nix if you know your shit should be 100k+
22:37 < AnimalFarmPig> javi404: cool. I've got a bit more experience with Debian & Ubuntu, but trying to do more stuff in CentOS. Look forward to hearing how it turns out.
22:37 <@dbcc> digital detox
22:37 < xamithan> Where do I find those jobs
22:37 <@dbcc> ACTIONABLE ANALYTICS
22:37 < Alternity> xamithan: gotta suck more ****
22:37 < xamithan> Only 100K I Can find is like software development
22:37 < Alternity> or move
22:37 < JollyRgrs> Alternity: depends on what he did for 5 yrs... linux desktop support or HA server support
22:37 < Alternity> also your resume might suck
22:38 < javi404> AnimalFarmPig: ok, my bouncer is always running, ping me tomorrow evening easternt ime.
22:38 < Alternity> ye true, i was assuming 5 years nix admin
22:38 < javi404> time
22:38 <@dbcc> i can fix your resume, $5 a month
22:38 < AnimalFarmPig> will do
22:38 <@dbcc> lock in period of 3 years
22:38 < xamithan> No desktops,  all server work
22:38 < Alternity> i'm getting resuems with guys saying 7+ years nix experience, but their resume only lists windows server and ad experience lul
22:38 < Alternity> those go in the trash bin
22:40 < Alternity> also people don't know their own worth, the salary range ppl request has no bearing on their actual skills
22:40 < xamithan> I was always told the worth is whatever companies will pay
22:44 < ThatOneRoadie> Final tally is 67 hours in 6 days of work
22:44 < ThatOneRoadie> On-call sucks
22:44 < JollyRgrs> so does your mom, OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHH!!
22:44 < grumplestiltzkin> get a few 16 hour days in there?
22:44 < vinrock> osnap!
22:44 < ThatOneRoadie> cryptic1, kick JollyRgrs pls kthx
22:45 < Heresiarch> 70k isn't bad for a mid-level unix/linux admin
22:45 < ThatOneRoadie> grumplestiltzkin, yeah, 12, 10, 12, 10, 12, 11
22:45 < JollyRgrs> Heresiarch++
22:45 < Heresiarch> (depending on the area)
22:45 < ThatOneRoadie> tuesday-sunday
22:46 < ThatOneRoadie> Tuesday a CRAC unit exploded, Wednesday I had to stay late for a compellent tech, thursday a server fell over, friday a server was slow, saturday a lab had issues at a hospital, and sunday our compellent array's tier 1 filled up at the same time as we started windows updates on 300ish VMs
22:46 < grumplestiltzkin> "a server fell over"
22:46 < grumplestiltzkin> wat
22:46 < ThatOneRoadie> and when Tier 1 fills up with dedupe + compression on, the read/write latency is a sight to behold
22:46 < wall4ss> uh how does a server fall over
22:46 < ThatOneRoadie> vmware pink screen of death
22:47 < grumplestiltzkin> so not physically fell over, right?
22:47 < ThatOneRoadie> correct
22:47 < JollyRgrs> dang
22:47 < vinrock> y u lie to us
22:47 < JollyRgrs> too bad
22:47 < ThatOneRoadie> pink screen from that 6.0 / 10gb nic issue
22:47 < ThatOneRoadie> one server didn't get the driver package
22:47 < genr8_> is "fell over" some kind of foreigner english term  ?
22:47 < ThatOneRoadie> It's a canada thing
22:47 < genr8_> mmk
22:47 < vinrock> i use that term to describe a state of drunkenness
22:47 < ThatOneRoadie> ^
22:47 < adamb> things fall over in the uk too
22:48 < genr8_> Things Fall Apart
22:48 < adamb> also some times the wheels come off things
22:48 < ThatOneRoadie> I dunno, falling apart implies a lack of maintenance
22:48 < Heresiarch> the hypervisor cannot hold
22:48 < AnimalFarmPig> fell over is a fine way to describe something failing
22:48 < ThatOneRoadie> falling over implies working -> kathunk -> not working
22:48 < MadCamel> 	I usually use "Ate a dick". "the database box just ate a dick, hold on while I beat the snot out of it"
22:48 < genr8_> sounds like "Failing over" which is the opposite
22:48 < AnimalFarmPig> as a Texan, we might say that it tumped over, but fell over is also good
22:49 < ThatOneRoadie> in theory, a fall-over entails a fail-over
22:49 < adamb> Not if you speak the Queen's English
22:49 < MadCamel> but "fell over" is acceptable in a less profane eivnronment
22:49 < ThatOneRoadie> in practice, that kinda worked
22:49 < ThatOneRoadie> thanks vmware FT
22:49 < binaryhermit> could someone explain this? https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/07/02/browser-maker-opera-plans-go-public-us/
22:49 < binaryhermit> what's the business model
22:49 < ThatOneRoadie> binaryhermit, in-browser ads
22:49 < AnimalFarmPig> Opera TV?
22:50 < ThatOneRoadie> ad on the new tab page, ad on pages that are specific to the browser, browser-license-as-a-service for TV/IoT products, etc
22:50 < adamb> spying on people, selling their data to facebook
22:50 < ThatOneRoadie> Metadata, yeah
22:50 < AnimalFarmPig> "Most of that comes from deals with search engines to make them the default in its browsers; Yandex in Russia and Google everywhere else. Google accounts for 43.2% of Opera's income, and Yandex is 12.9%"
22:50 < ThatOneRoadie> Just remember, as with any VPN
22:50 < ThatOneRoadie> if it's free
22:50 < ThatOneRoadie> you're not the customer
22:50 < ThatOneRoadie> you're the product
22:50 < binaryhermit> they get paid for sites to be in the default homepage and also for setting a search engine as default
22:50 < adamb> What if I admin the VPN?
22:50 < ThatOneRoadie> it's not free, you pay for a server somewhere
22:51 < binaryhermit> the latter was and might still be a source of revenue for mozilla
22:51 < Heresiarch> adamb: then you're the product and the admin.
22:51 < JollyRgrs> http://s.quickmeme.com/img/50/507538efe2b4bed9bcd59568ccbfd2401b170d4c650a33285c9584c7f40b5496.jpg
22:51 < JollyRgrs> ^^ that's what i think of when i hear "fell over"
22:51 < ThatOneRoadie> oh that's right, google paid mozilla a fortune to be their omnibar search provider
22:51 < ThatOneRoadie> Not inaccurate with vmware
22:51 < JollyRgrs> they did
22:52 < MadCamel> in the past opera has always been a company that's strictly against crapware and privacy-invasive stuff. It's good that they shed the advertising half of the company and are keepin' it real
22:52 < AnimalFarmPig> Opera makes this and licenses it for use in smart TV's-- https://www.opera.com/opera-tv
22:52 < grumplestiltzkin> I've never heard anyone use the phrase 'fell over' except when talking physically
22:52 < AnimalFarmPig> I run Opera browser, pretty happy with it. Built-in adblock and VPN, great compatibility.
22:52 < MadCamel> I've heard it quite a bit
22:52 < genr8_> ive heard of a software operation "Falling over on itself"
22:52 <+CheckYourSix> I drove behind a guy with the license plate CODER this morning
22:52 < genr8_> to describe some kind of bottleneck
22:53 < AnimalFarmPig> maybe I hang out with too many Canadians, definitely hear "fell over" in reference to applications or physical hardware falling down
22:53 < JollyRgrs> CheckYourSix: could be a coder for a hospital/doctor
22:53 < MadCamel> Every time it gets near 5pm and time to leave this starts going through my head: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw
22:53 < JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: i've never heard it before
22:54 < AnimalFarmPig> CheckYourSix: former coworker has the vanity place "SOFTWRE" or something similar on his BRZ. He also has a fart can muffler and anime graphics all over it.
22:54 < AnimalFarmPig> s/place/plate
22:54 <+CheckYourSix> AnimalFarmPig: That screams nerd lol
22:54 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, I guess so
22:54 <+CheckYourSix> I like generic plates with no identifiable stuff on my car. Granted, I drive a beater, so it's identifiable
22:54 < JollyRgrs> what kind of beater?
22:54 < genr8_> BRZ too lol
22:55 < genr8_> why is that a coder car
22:55 <+CheckYourSix> 2005 Buick Lacrosse
22:55 < genr8_> that and a VW GOlf
22:55 <+CheckYourSix> $2,600 and only had 101k
22:55 < JollyRgrs> i don't do vanity plate b/c i don't wanna spend the money and i can't think of a good enoguh thing to put on it
22:55 < vinrock> golfs are great cars
22:55 < vinrock> brz notsomuch
22:55 < AnimalFarmPig> genr8_: because it's the car that a 25 year old junior developer buys after he moves out of his parents' house
22:55 < JollyRgrs> CheckYourSix: doesn't sound like a beater unless they didn't take good care of it
22:55 < wall4ss> I'd kill for a buick regal gs right now :D
22:56 < vinrock> id kill for a gnx
22:56 < wall4ss> ultimate grandpa sleeper
22:56 <+CheckYourSix> JollyRgrs: It's a beater. Salvage title, shitty paint, interior is tan and they didn't take care of it.
22:56 < JollyRgrs> ah
22:56 < vinrock> wat salvage title lacrosse
22:56 < JollyRgrs> gross
22:56 < wall4ss> lol everyone would kill for a gnx though haha
22:56 < JollyRgrs> such a shame
22:56 <+CheckYourSix> I laugh at it though because $2,600 #win
22:56 < vinrock> did someone have you at gunpoint in order to acquire that thing
22:56 < vinrock> wat
22:56 < AnimalFarmPig> tfw '87 Grand National is less powerful and slower than a 2018 Toyota Camry V6
22:56 < vinrock> 2600
22:56 < JollyRgrs> i had a 1997 lesabre that was good to me before my 2005 impala
22:56 < JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: lol
22:57 < wall4ss> I mean modern cars should be faster after 30 years
22:57 < vinrock> but it has turbonium
22:57 < wall4ss> modern fuel injection > *
22:57 < MadCamel> I love how in this profession people either drive flashy cars or total beaters
22:57 < wall4ss> direct injection alone is huge, but a 2018 camry not even close to being as sexy as a gnx
22:57 < AnimalFarmPig> This is why people who look at cars purely from performance numbers are silly
22:57 < JollyRgrs> porque no los dos?
22:57 < vinrock> i guess i drive a.. flashy beater?
22:57 < ThatOneRoadie> MadCamel, no inbetween, yep
22:57 < vinrock> i got a lexus gx that i beat the shit out of
22:57 <+CheckYourSix> vinrock: Don't hate on my beater car. It runs solid. I've had it for 5 months now
22:57 < vinrock> go wheelin, pull my quads, etc
22:57 < ThatOneRoadie> My Kia POS is a beater
22:58 < ThatOneRoadie> 10 years and going strong
22:58 < AnimalFarmPig> I would totally get the GN even if it is slower
22:58 < voice> manual windows?
22:58 < ThatOneRoadie> it has 4 cylinders and a/c and an aux-in jack
22:58 < ThatOneRoadie> I don't need anything else
22:58 < vinrock> GN's are cool but could get a t-type for a lot less and its the exact same car
22:58 < vinrock> a gnx tho...
22:58 < vinrock> awwww sookie
22:58 < voice> my sister's rio has manual locks and windows, apparently confused the police when she got pulled over one time
22:58 < ThatOneRoadie> my 2007 Kia POSpectra
22:59 < MadCamel> I'm in the beater camp, got a '05 frankenprius
22:59 < vinrock> that new kia stinger gt is pretty rad for what it is
22:59 < AnimalFarmPig> if we're doing 3.8 turbos, I would rather the 3.8 turbo T-Bird
22:59 < AnimalFarmPig> errr... not T-Bird
22:59 < vinrock> cars like that force everyone to git gud
22:59 < AnimalFarmPig> Thunderchicken...
22:59 < AnimalFarmPig> uhhh.. trans am
22:59 < vinrock> the tta
22:59 < vinrock> yea
22:59 <+CheckYourSix> I have the 3.8 in my Buick
22:59 < vinrock> gm 3800
22:59 < vinrock> rip
23:00 < AnimalFarmPig> good engine
23:00 < wall4ss> yeah rip
23:00 < voice> stinger has been on my list for a little bit
23:00 < ThatOneRoadie> How about a '69 Ford XL 429?
23:00 < ThatOneRoadie> vroom vroom
23:00 < ThatOneRoadie> fastback too https://i.imgur.com/BKygJvk.jpg
23:00 < voice> I want to try to keep it in the hyundai group because of that 10yr 100k mile powertrain warranty
23:00 < JollyRgrs> voice: couldn't have been for too long
23:00 < voice> the transmission on my elantra failed at 98k miles
23:00 < JollyRgrs> CheckYourSix: 3800 series engines are the best
23:01 < vinrock> imo if youre looking for the best economical cars, hyundai and kia hands down
23:01 <+CheckYourSix> JollyRgrs: So I've heard
23:01 < JollyRgrs> i've had 4 and  taken all 4 well over 100k
23:01 < vinrock> idk why anyuone buys a toyota corolla or honda civic
23:01 < wall4ss> my 2004 gtp comp-g (3800 series III s/c) blew cv axles constantly, but was one of my fav cars
23:01 <+CheckYourSix> I'm hoping I get several years out of this car. I'd like my next one to be a Subaru, but it'll be years (hopefully)
23:01 < sideup66> voice: that is legit though, cause it would get changed lol
23:01 < voice> most car makes seem to cap at 60k
23:01 < ThatOneRoadie> I miss having a garage this big attached to my house :< https://i.imgur.com/nzeMN9E.jpg
23:01 <+CheckYourSix> ThatOneRoadie: Damn
23:01 < wall4ss> that is nice
23:02 < vinrock> that garage looks like a schitzo's home
23:02 < vinrock> NHRA banner, drag slick... kia and prius?
23:02 <+CheckYourSix> vinrock: I was just looking at that
23:02 < vinrock> oh ok you can see the ford way back there
23:02 < voice> never taken your prius drag racing?
23:02 < ThatOneRoadie> yeah, way in the back
23:02 < voice> :P
23:02 < ThatOneRoadie> frame for a '51 F100 too just back from blasting and painting
23:02 < vinrock> nice
23:03 < ThatOneRoadie>  and a couple NHRA Blower belts
23:03 < vinrock> did you see hot rod garage build the crown hick
23:03 < ThatOneRoadie> cause why not
23:03 <+CheckYourSix> I really don't like cars
23:03 < vinrock> ford f100 body on a police interceptor chassis
23:03 <+CheckYourSix> At least not working on them
23:03 < ThatOneRoadie> crown hick
23:03 < ThatOneRoadie> lmao
23:03 < AnimalFarmPig> If you're looking for econo car, I'm pretty happy with my Ford Fiesta, but I've only had it for a couple months. It was cheap (new ones around $18k with some bargaining); has simple interior; power windows, locks, keyless entry, etc.; touchscreen with android auto or the apple one if you're into that; six speed manual gearbox; 200 horsepower
23:03 < vinrock> yeah they come up with great names for their projects
23:04 < ThatOneRoadie> A Ford Fiesta? Have some class...
23:04 < AnimalFarmPig> ThatOneRoadie: would rather than a Kia or Hyundai at the same price
23:04 < AnimalFarmPig> or Civic or whatnot
23:04 < vinrock> i kinda want to take a fiesta st for a spin
23:04 < vinrock> they seem mad fun
23:04 < AnimalFarmPig> vinrock: that's what I have. Lots of fun
23:04 < vinrock> ford was seeding them in rental lots when they first hit the market
23:04 < vinrock> econo rental
23:04 < vinrock> BAM
23:04 < vinrock> fiesta rs
23:04 < vinrock> er
23:04 < vinrock> st
23:05 < AnimalFarmPig> MSRP is something crazy like $22-23k, but they actually sell for $18k
23:05 < vinrock> wat
23:05 < AnimalFarmPig> oh, nice
23:05 < vinrock> thats mad cheap
23:05 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah
23:05 < hxcsp> i rented a car for a business trip and they gave me a maxima sr midnight edition
23:05 < hxcsp> was pretty sweet
23:05 < vinrock> nissan sold the sentra se-r spec v in 2007 for $20k and that thing is a giant pile of shit wrapped around an ok engina
23:06 < sideup66> voice:
23:06 < MadCamel> thinking of getting a used nissan leaf..
23:06 < AnimalFarmPig> one of my buddies had one of those in the early 2000's
23:06 < sideup66> Did they change the trans
23:06 < ebol4> cars are so expensive new, gotdang
23:06 < ThatOneRoadie> for 18k you can get a 1 yr old accord and run that fucker into the ground
23:06 < voice> sideup66, they replaced it
23:06 < sideup66> Yep
23:06 < ThatOneRoadie> that'll last you 15 years or more
23:06 < vinrock> buddy of mine just picked one up so he doesnt have to daily drive his bro dozer
23:06 < sideup66> They are awesome about that stuff
23:06 < vinrock> 100k mi, $1500, needed a clutch and is a salvage
23:06 < voice> with a re-manufactured or brand new I have no clue
23:06 < vinrock> but if it gives him 100k of life its a bargain
23:06 < sideup66> Lol vinrock
23:06 < AnimalFarmPig> ThatOneRoadie: can you get one with a stick shift?
23:06 < voice> the dealership was not happy about it thats all I know
23:06 < vinrock> might as well have a 200hp shitbox
23:07 < ThatOneRoadie> AnimalFarmPig, maybe, but sticks are getting rarer and rarer
23:07 < ThatOneRoadie> torque converters are reliable and the ones with transaxles are getting as-good or better mpg than a stick
23:07 < AnimalFarmPig> I tried to buy a Golf wagon (All sport, iirc) with a stick. VW's website said they existed. They don't exist.
23:07 < vinrock> yeah autos in general get better economy now
23:08 < AnimalFarmPig> I don't care about performance or reliability. I like shifting my own gears.
23:08 < Heresiarch> ...and will still not be as fun to drive as stick (and no, paddle shifters/side-shift-auto is not the same thing)
23:08 < voice> one of my key wants for my next car is awd and something that when I hit the gas the engine doesn't take four seconds to realize I want to go
23:09 < MadCamel> I thought that one of the newer transmission types to meet fuel economy standards is essentially an electronic manual, no lossy torque converter.. Strange that they'd make those but not offer the option of attaching a stick and pedal to them
23:09 <+CheckYourSix> I want AWD and I want an SUV
23:10 < vinrock> i havent had a car in 4 years, im jonesin i hate driving a truck all the time
23:10 < vinrock> and im totally jonesin' to shift my own gears
23:10 < vinrock> but i think that era may be over for me, idk
23:11 < AnimalFarmPig> VW makes an AWD Golf wagon with a ~180HP turbocharged 1.8 and a dual clutch gearbox (or, in theory, a manual transmission) with an MSRP in the low 20's. Would likely fill the bill of AWD and not super slow and unresponsive.
23:11 < vinrock> the only real hipo sporet sedans you can get with a stick now are the BMW M3/4 and Caddy ATS-V
23:11 < AnimalFarmPig> vinrock: Focus ST & RS
23:11 < vinrock> eh i cant do small cars
23:11 < AnimalFarmPig> hate the seats in the RS though :/
23:11 <+CheckYourSix> I really don't care about having a ton of power or manual transmissions anymore. I just want functional and comfortable
23:11 < Heresiarch> audi a4?
23:11 < AnimalFarmPig> ahh... forget that they're considered small
23:11 < voice> just get yourself a genesis g90
23:11 < Nightcinder> Boss wants me to get VMware and ms certs
23:11 < MadCamel> what'd be a good car for towing stuff, that's not a truck and gets decent fuel economy?
23:11 < vinrock> im considering a C63S Coupe or M4 Competition next
23:12 < Nightcinder> I told him I want a pay raise if I get them
23:12 < AnimalFarmPig> MadCamel: how much you need to tow?
23:12 < Nightcinder> He said he'd see what he could do lol
23:12 < Heresiarch> o/
23:13 < voice> but yeah for me the warranty has been kind of a sticking point
23:13 < voice> with leaves me with hyundai, kia or genesis
23:13 < vinrock> you cant go wrong with the stinger gt
23:13 < vinrock> LOTTA bang for the buck
23:13 < MadCamel> AnimalFarmPig: say 1500 pounds max. Small boat, small camper trailer
23:14 < MadCamel> But up and down some hills
23:14 < voice> whats funny is I'm told the Genesis G70 is the Stinger with a luxury body on it
23:14 < AnimalFarmPig> MadCamel: Ford Transit Connect Wagon is rated to tow up to 2,000 lbs; does low 20's for mpg. There's a new model for 2019 with same towing capacity and available diesel engine. Not sure if it's any good compared to previous gen.
23:14 < vinrock> oh shit i havent seen the G70
23:14 < MadCamel> cool. thanks for the tips.
23:14 < vinrock> thats totally a stinger
23:14 < vinrock> i like the front end
23:14 < vinrock> damn
23:15 < vinrock> thats a pretty slick lookoin hyundai
23:15 < voice> one of the guys here got the g80 sport
23:15 < vinrock> i aint really feelin the look on that one
23:15 < vinrock> the G70 is dope tho
23:16 < AnimalFarmPig> MadCamel: no problem. They're cool cars. I bought a 2014 for 15k miles on it last December, showed it to one of my coworkers, and he bought one too. The towing capacity was one of the reasons he bought it.
23:16 < AnimalFarmPig> MadCamel: low 20's new and nicely equipped; high 20's if you want highest trim level with leather
23:19 < AnimalFarmPig> ok, time to go home and drink
23:21 < joelazot> ello
23:21 < xamithan> Yo
23:21 < joelazot> how are ya
23:21 < xamithan> Tired of messing with bsd
23:22 < joelazot> fair enough
23:22 < JollyRgrs> s/b/l
23:22 < joelazot> It's BSD after all
23:27 < ThatOneRoadie> lol
23:27 < ThatOneRoadie> had my weekly ITIL meeting with my boss after the 67 hour week
23:27 < ThatOneRoadie> "Yeah I'm going to comp you 3 days for that shitshow of a week"
23:27 < ThatOneRoadie> I didn't even ask lol
23:28 < wall4ss> jealousss
23:28 <+CheckYourSix> ThatOneRoadie: You have a good boss
23:29 < ThatOneRoadie> Yeah, he makes the "67k for a windows systems admin for 21,000 devices and 8 hospitals in 2 states" worth it a bit
23:31 < joelazot> im arguing if my mates mum is a trap
23:31 < joelazot> help
23:31 < joelazot> why am i like this
23:32 < ThatOneRoadie> Cause you're a bit of a cunt?
23:32 < enix> joelazot: only one way to find out
23:33 < joelazot> ThatOneRoadie: but im 15 Kappa
23:33 < ThatOneRoadie> just a tiny bit of a cunt then
23:33 < ThatOneRoadie> it'll go away
23:33 < ThatOneRoadie> round about august when you get your ass back in class
23:33 < enix> or get into her room, check her underwear, check to see if the fronts are stretched out. If you find a bunch of Y fronts in there then that's instant confirmation though
23:33 < enix> What the fuck is 15 kappa
23:34 < ThatOneRoadie> I miss summer breaks
23:34 < joelazot> enix: 15 years old
23:34 < joelazot> ayy lmao
23:34 < xamithan> Whats a trap
23:34 < joelazot> im just a retarded kid
23:35 < enix> What's kappa
23:35 < ThatOneRoadie> Twitch immaturity
23:35 < joelazot> a twitch emote
23:35 < joelazot> ^
23:35 < enix> right.
23:35 < enix> Better get accustomed to that
23:35 < enix> Streams and recordings are starting next week :(
23:35 < JollyRgrs> enix: kappa = "sarcasm" or something i think
23:35 < JollyRgrs> it's a dumb thing
23:35 < joelazot> yeah
23:35 < DomLS3> kappa is like kek
23:35 < joelazot> ^
23:36 < enix> ohhhh
23:36 < xamithan> kappa is a legendary turtle
23:36 < enix> topkek
23:36 < enix> omg guys
23:36 < enix> am I getting old..?
23:36 < estranger> KAPPA DATA ARCHITECTURES?
23:36 < joelazot> enix: no
23:36 < enix> omg joelazot help me.
23:36 < joelazot> enix: whachu need
23:36 < enix> is 4chan still cool?
23:36 < xamithan> It was cool at one point ?
23:37 < joelazot> enix: to an extent
23:37 < enix> woooowwww 4chans blocked at work
23:37 < enix> I'll have to talk to my sysadmin about that.
23:37 < enix> Oh wait!
23:37 < joelazot> enix: alot of boards are shit tho
23:37 < xamithan> Bunch of 12 year olds trying to be edgelords isn't cool enix
23:37 < enix> okay im really out of touch because i had to google edgelord
23:38 < joelazot> should i get a degree if i want to go into DevOps? (operations side)
23:38 < joelazot> jesus christ enix
23:38 < enix> joelazot: honestly yes
23:38 < xamithan> Yes,  degree in computer science
23:38 < joelazot> what if there's no good compsci places
23:38 < joelazot> universities*
23:38 < enix> Who cares if they're good
23:38 < joelazot> is it just to get past HR
23:38 < xamithan> None of them will be good,  you gotta learn the shit on your own
23:39 < enix> ^
23:39 < joelazot> yeah i know that
23:39 < enix> joelazot: you can get away with not having a degree because devops will probably have moved to fucking dockops
23:39 < joelazot> I just don't want to waste 3 years just to get past HR when I could be learning way more
23:39 < enix> But it's a LOT easier to be competitive in the screening phase lol
23:39 < joelazot> enix: as in docker ops?
23:39 < xamithan> Then find an online college and work while you going
23:39 < xamithan> Thats the best route
23:39 < enix> joelazot: lol yeah
23:40 < joelazot> why not just certs?
23:40 < enix> online colleges are a scam in australia lol
23:40 < xamithan> certs are lame
23:40 < enix> Noone cares about certs anymore
23:40 < xamithan> He isn't in australia
23:40 < joelazot> not even RHCE Certs
23:40 < joelazot> ?
23:40 < joelazot> I mean RH certs*
23:40 < xamithan> I got an RHCE cert,  didn't do jack man
23:40 < enix> it used to be that CCNA == $60,000 job. MCP == $65,000+ job INSTANTLY
23:41 < enix> RHCE and RHCSA have had so many shit cunt indians go through it then pretend to know what they're talking about, they won't take you seriously unless you have contributions to the kernel shown on your fucking github
23:41 < joelazot> oh ok
23:41 < enix> idk what it's like out your way man but certs over here got ruined
23:41 < xamithan> At that point they say you are overqualified
23:41 < enix> But look at me; zero certifications what so ever, and I met the highly certified person I beat for this job so bleh
23:42 < joelazot> I just want to be a devops guy
23:42 < joelazot> y'know
23:42 < alazare619> enix:  is the linux kernel on github
23:43 < enix> is it not?
23:43 < ekaj_> REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
23:43 < alazare619> oh its torvalds/linux
23:43 < ekaj_> why do people not answer their support posts
23:43 < enix> oh there you go
23:43 < alazare619> i thought linux kernel was hosted on its own private git
23:43 < joelazot> i think i have 48 chromosones
23:43 < enix> It might move off github soon when we ditch that shit due to M$
23:43 < joelazot> genuinley retarded
23:43 < enix> But then again... fucking visual studio
23:43 < xamithan> devops is shit man,  just a buzzword
23:43 < alazare619> wonder what linus has to say about MSFT now owning hte site his kernel is hosted on LMAO
23:43  * enix feels sick just discussing it
23:43 < xamithan> Its like wanting to be a windows rockstar ninja
23:44 < joelazot> I might have to be a windows admin
23:44 < joelazot> I'm spooked man
23:44 < joelazot> with the amount of chromosones i have i'll probably fit in
23:44 < joelazot> ./s
23:44 < estranger> oof
23:45 < alazare619> msft purchased github to own the linux kernel
23:45 < scwizard> clearly that's how it works
23:45 < joelazot> kill me
23:45 < alazare619> due to the fact github owns all intellecutal property hosted on it
23:45 < enix> ............................................
23:46 < enix> i literally dont know what my life is anymore
23:46 < joelazot> neither do i
23:46 <+CheckYourSix> alazare619: What do you mean they own all IP hosted on it?
23:46 < alazare619> https://help.github.com/articles/github-terms-of-service/#g-intellectual-property-notice
23:46 < alazare619> plot twist MSFT now owns linux
23:46 < joelazot> Do you guys think i'll do fine without a degree?
23:47 < xamithan> I don't know your country,  but you won't get past HR here
23:47 <+CheckYourSix> alazare619: "...related to the Website and Service"
23:47 < joelazot> shiet
23:47 < alazare619> GOTEM
23:47 < enix> joelazot: it'll take you a lot longer to earn money man
23:48 < joelazot> Would a  "Information and Communication Technology: System Administration Focus" fit with a DevOps role?
23:48 < joelazot> I assume it would be
23:48 < joelazot> for operations atleast
23:48 < scwizard> joelazot: is that a degree?
23:48 < scwizard> i don't have one of those :(
23:48 < enix> No that sounds like tech support + you have to fix the fnetwork
23:48 < scwizard> i'm somehow devops tho ama
23:49 < enix> scwizard: what are the best screens for status boards
23:49 < alazare619> fnetwork
23:49 < joelazot> scwizard: *nix role i assume?
23:49 < alazare619> how do you prnounce that
23:49 < enix> scwizard: I'm thinking of a 160hz refresh rate for extra accurate monitoring
23:49 < alazare619> EF.In.Etwork
23:49 < scwizard> uhh i dunno but our office already has a bunch of screens on a wall and I'd probably use them if I wanted to make a status board
23:49 < enix> alazare619: It's like fjord... so the f would be silent?
23:49 < scwizard> they're off right now
23:49 < alazare619> or Fah.Network
23:49 < enix> No the n would be silent
23:50 < scwizard> joelazot: si
23:50 < scwizard> i use windows for my workstation/desktop tho
23:50 < alazare619> so fetwork?
23:50 < joelazot> scwizard: how common is it for linux infrastructure with windows client machines?
23:50 < enix> I would say so
23:50 < scwizard> but all my experience with servers is linux
23:50  * enix is also a massive troll
23:50 < enix> I feel I should warn you.
23:51 < JollyRgrs> joelazot: most places have a mix for infra
23:51 < scwizard> joelazot: common enough that i've had applications rejected to jobs because they have that requirement
23:51 < joelazot> scwizard: ah ok
23:51 < JollyRgrs> windows and linux AND unix/aix servers... maybe even oracle enterprise
23:51 < enix> joelazot: create an "encrypted" image hosting website for your uni friends when you get there btw
23:51 < JollyRgrs> and windows workstations
23:51 < joelazot> oracle
23:51 < joelazot> EWWW
23:51 < enix> joelazot: best way to dig up dirt I found
23:51 < enix> and get nudes
23:51 < joelazot> enix: haha
23:52 < joelazot> I geuss I'll learn windows administration too, just cause better not to keep all my eggs in one basket
23:52 < joelazot> cause worst case I can't find a linux admin job
23:52 < joelazot> I can always temporarily be a junior win admin
23:53 < scwizard> joelazot: from what i've seen there's like two categories of sysadmin types, and there's overlap between them
23:53 < xamithan> Anything you learn right now will be obsolete by the time you get out of uni
23:53 < scwizard> with one category the responsibility is to keep people's workstations working smoothly
23:53 < enix> this will be interesting
23:53 < JollyRgrs> joelazot: most (like by a LARGE amount) don't care WHAT your degree is in, just taht you ahve one... and for devops, many places won't care if you have a degree or not
23:53 < scwizard> and with the other category the responsibility is to keep the company's SaaS app that they're selling running smoothly
23:53 < scwizard> the first is usually windows based and the second is usually linux based (key word usually)
23:53 < enix> lol that's so true
23:54 < enix> scwizard: not so much anymore with azure coming out
23:54 < JollyRgrs> hwoever, i've definitely been passed over like "do not collect $200, go straight to jail" HR won't even THINK about hiring w/o 4 yr degree
23:54 < enix> s/coming out/becoming more popular in media
23:54 < JollyRgrs> so... it def. helps your chances
23:54 < joelazot> ah ok
23:54 < scwizard> well the point i'm getting at is it's not always that simple and the lines can blur a lot
23:54 < joelazot> Plus connections
23:54 < enix> scwizard: I know
23:54 < enix> I'm just syain'
23:54 < enix> :)
23:54 < joelazot> I just want to get into a degree right now
23:54 < joelazot> just finish school
23:54 < joelazot> but i cant :.
23:54 < joelazot> :/
23:54 < scwizard> but the important thing is to approach things from the angle of trying to get into the later type of sysadmin
23:54 < scwizard> because it pays much more
23:55 < joelazot> yeah
23:55 < JollyRgrs> joelazot: 99.9999% chance that yo uwon't go back "later" to get it
23:55 < joelazot> since those companies make more $$, they can pay more $$$
23:55 < scwizard> also your responsibilites are much more central to the company's operations
23:56 < scwizard> but there's a lot of gray area, in particular MSPs
23:56 < scwizard> in that case their company's entire product is desktop support
23:56 < joelazot> ok
23:56 < enix> But FTIW; I did the working straight out of school thing, then went to uni, couldn't survive on the minimal money because my partner wants a house and kids so I went back to working full time. I regret leaving uni; it's fun, you make awesome friends through it, you can make connections in it, if you go to one of those american unis in the movies you get to have sex with cheerleaders and do initiations where to fuck them with fisted dildos
23:56 < enix> Looks like fun
23:56 < enix> GO have fun.
23:57 < scwizard> so like when you ascend as a desktop support you end up as a sysadmin that supports desktops, and when you ascend as that you end up as an MSP kinda?
23:57 < JollyRgrs> scwizard: an MSP is never gonna pay well
23:57 < scwizard> but even though you've advanced you're stuck in the same hell
23:57 < joelazot> enix: kek i live in new zealand
23:57 < JollyRgrs> their top dollar depends soley on paying you bottom dollar
23:57 < scwizard> since you're still supporting users sorta
23:57 < enix> joelazot: aww choice as bro
23:57 < joelazot> yeah g
23:58 < joelazot> enix: I just can't stand school y'know
23:58 < enix> joelazot: go to uni mate fuck it uni is nothing like school at all
23:58 < JollyRgrs> ^^
23:58 < JollyRgrs> uni is way more fun
23:58 < JollyRgrs> and take time to listen to old ppl like me... i shoulda finished my schooling
23:58 < scwizard> i guess i'm saying all this, because you need to realize if you're on the "support->windows sysadmin->MSP" road and be like "wait a sec hol up"
23:58 < enix> joelazot: Get involved in sport (they have competitive leages for all fitness types), make friends who turn into connections, get shit faced at uni bar and evicted by security
23:59 < enix> Do all the fun stuff. I wish I was still at uni
23:59 < JollyRgrs> yeah, intramural sports are great
23:59 < joelazot> I want to contact the university and see if i can do it without Year 13, Since they list on their site that they allow people on a case by case basis without University Enterance, So I need to contact their executive dean or something so i can talk to him
23:59 < JollyRgrs> find a campus club
23:59 < enix> JollyRgrs: Yeah I regret going to uni as an adult and missing out on all that :(
23:59 < joelazot> Although it shouldn't be too hard since I have a mate who works at the uni I am planning to go to
23:59 < joelazot> as a sysadmin
23:59 < enix> joelazot: oh he would know all the dirt
23:59 < joelazot> so I should be able to be like ayyyyyyy can u get me in contact with dis guy since their support is useless pls x heres a box of beers
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