--- Log opened Thu Jul 05 00:00:26 2018
00:03 < Katnip> who's watching fireworks tonight?
00:05 < adamb> oooh that's why the internet is so quiet
00:06 < squealingcode> lol
00:07 < Katnip> surveilance or hot dogs?
00:12 < MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wMguHwP794 fits right in. Real Amaerican
00:12 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  YouTube → Hulk Hogan Wins the WWE Title (Wrestlemania 9) → ⚘ 118,446 ↑ 326 ↓ 67 ✍ 306
00:12 < MillerBOSS> Theme song :P
00:12 < sideup66> MillerBOSS: you up
00:12 < MillerBOSS> I'm down
00:12 < sideup66> MillerBOSS: did you get livepd?
00:12 < MillerBOSS> Did you see my message in #MillerBoss?
00:12 < sideup66> about the link?
00:13 < sideup66> no i didnt
00:31 < ny0x> this outside web dev is a moron. "6 hours estimated" to move a single wordpress site.
00:32 < ny0x> I just moved it in 10 minutes
00:32 < ny0x> his code is trash with hardlinks
00:33 < _km> only if sth goes wrong
00:33 < MillerBOSS> lol 6 hours?
00:33 < MillerBOSS> There are plugins that will even do it for you in 5 minutes
00:34 < ny0x> This was approved by marketing. When he came to me when his migration plugin didn't work on the new instance I pulled the plug.
00:34 < _km> maybe cached dns entries^^ sometimes takes a while
02:03 < MillerBOSS> `bofh
02:03 <+layer-eight> BOFH Neutrino overload on the nameserver
02:03 < MillerBOSS> `bofh
02:03 <+layer-eight> BOFH Internet is needed to catch the etherbunny
02:03 < MillerBOSS> `chuck
02:03 <+layer-eight> Chuck Norris: The US did not boycott the 1980 Summer Olympics in Moscow due to political reasons: Chuck Norris killed the entire US team with a single round-house kick during TaeKwonDo practice.
02:04 < MillerBOSS> BAM!
02:15 < misspwn> 4th of july is the worst. i'm over here being crotchety old person while these assholes are doing firecrackers in the street
02:29  * CheckYourSix loves fireworks
02:35 < Giant81> is there a way to essentially do a "dist-upgrade" to upgrade a windows 2012 server to 2016? or is it just alway better to just rebuild a new server and migrate to it?
02:36 < Giant81> misspwn: I'm sorry old man, what was that? I couldn't hear you over the sound of my freedom /s
02:40 < misspwn> Giant81, lel
02:46 < Brinks> If anyone commented on my idea I missed it
02:46 < Brinks> If anyone commented on my idea I missed it.
02:54 < enix> ?
02:55 < enix> s/new server/new server running linux
02:55 <+layer-eight> [SED enix/Giant81] is there a way to essentially do a "dist-upgrade" to upgrade a windows 2012 server to 2016? or is it just alway better to just rebuild a new server running linux and migrate to it?
02:55 < desgen> Brinks, you didn't comment
02:56 < Giant81> enix: hehe
02:56 < enix> .bofh
02:56 < enix> `bofh
02:56 <+layer-eight> BOFH Post-it note sludge leaked into the monitor.
02:56 < enix> `bofh
02:56 <+layer-eight> BOFH Your process is not iso 9000 compliant
02:57 < Giant81> yeah I have a server at home, I'm probably going to detatch the share drive, then boot from a 2016 iso, upgrade, then re attach the drive
02:57 < desgen> Brinks wants to know if symlinks on a ramdisk for a game would actually help perf, I suggested it wouldn't do shit
02:57 < desgen> but, that's why he's here
02:57 < Giant81> this way if I hork it up, I can just rebuild to a 2016, then attach the drive, and re-share the folder
02:57 < enix> Cool; people couldn't send emails today because their email clients weren't ISO9000 compliant, so I've pushed an update to fix that.
02:57 < enix> And it's absolutely not because I stopped our outgoing mailservers processes to give it a break
02:57 < enix> and so I could read through what was in the queue.
02:57 < Giant81> never
02:58 < Giant81> enix: that would NEVER happen..
03:00 < desgen> would symlinks for a games big files on a ramdisk help anything? Anyone? I'm thinking it's a silly idea, but then again I don't know...
03:01 < desgen> you bitches
03:01 < desgen> am I on mute
03:02 < desgen> wake up homos
03:02 < desgen> i'm entitled to advice
03:02 < desgen> and money
03:03 < Brinks> Not just symlinking them to the files located on a ramdisk that might introduce addition latency and processing
03:03 < Brinks> I'm saying to load as much as possible into a ramdisk
03:03 < Brinks> then add symlinks on that ramdisk that lead to an ssd for the additional rarely used data that you don't plan on zoning into
03:04 < Brinks> so the game sees the full data on the ramdisk at load time
03:04 < Brinks> and i wouldn't do it unless I could fit every single initial login required file and main city/garrison
03:04 < Brinks> into an actual ramdisk of say 8-12gb
03:04 < Brinks> and 30-40gb located elsewhere but appears to be on the ramdisk
03:06 < Brinks> I think the trickies part would be changing the bit that reports the size of the ramdisk
03:06 < Brinks> because symlinks alone would not inflate the total size reported i dont believe
03:10 < AustinS> nah sym/hard links shouldnt inflate any sizes, unless you're doing your own calculation, but not of `df` output or anything
03:11 < AustinS> (know for a fact cause i hard link multi-hundred GB files into multiple folders for different processes and then clean them up later :P)
03:14 < Brinks> The game might freak out if its loading a 43gb game off a 8gb drive tho
03:14 < Brinks> I don't know what kind of checks are in place
03:16 < Brinks> I want it to look lika 45gb ramdisk
03:16 < Brinks> but I have 16gb of ram
03:25  * MillerBOSS is listening to Elmo - Elmo's Song from the album Sesame Street: Platinum All-Time Favorites on Spotify.
03:25 < MillerBOSS> Lol sing it
03:25 < MillerBOSS> I wish I had a song
03:26 < MillerBOSS> STAAAAAAND Back
03:27 < matty_r> Anybody done any cisco networking with switches? I'm trying to remember what the cable is called that allows you to connect two switches together which then acts as a single device
03:28 < misspwn> a bridge?
03:28 < matty_r> for stacking them I believe
03:28 < darkscrypt> stacking them?
03:28 < MillerBOSS> A pencil?
03:28 < misspwn> penis
03:29 < desgen> wanna see?
03:29 < darkscrypt> penis connects us all
03:29 < desgen> wanna see my symlink
03:29 < matty_r> StackWise
03:36 < MillerBOSS> Dancing on the
03:36 < MillerBOSS> ...
03:36 < MillerBOSS> Go
03:37 < MillerBOSS> https://youtu.be/ovo6zwv6DX4
03:37 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  ⚓  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovo6zwv6DX4&feature=youtu.be → YouTube → Lionel Richie - Dancing On The Ceiling → ⚘ 3,913,111 ↑ 16,652 ↓ 915 ✍ 860
03:41 < catbeard> https://i.redditmedia.com/ijq7NWvWjPv60f-l_L_XE7LJ-rY3WzWwLlApa7j5P0A.jpg
03:42 < MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7vRSu_wsNc
03:42 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  YouTube → Prince - Raspberry Beret (Official Music Video) → ⚘ 9,652,519 ↑ 67,466 ↓ 3,065 ✍ 4,580
03:47 < MillerBOSS> Ohhhh yeah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnHm4ro_l8s
03:47 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  YouTube → Loverboy - Turn Me Loose (Video) → ⚘ 9,726,335 ↑ 53,099 ↓ 2,783 ✍ 3,222 → * Content Restrictions
03:47 < MillerBOSS> Turn me
03:47 < MillerBOSS> Turn me loose as a pooose
03:49 < rpifan> hi
03:53 < fyrril> hi
03:59 < rpifan> up
04:00 < misspwn> down
04:00 <@Nostalg14c> Morning.
04:02 < SleePy> https://old.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/8w30ts/tifu_by_asking_a_girl_to_go_for_a_ride_in_my_truck  Fun read
04:02 <+layer-eight> * SleePy →  ⚓  https://old.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/8w30ts/tifu_by_asking_a_girl_to_go_for_a_ride_in_my_truck/ → TIFU by asking a girl to go for a ride in my truck : tifu
04:03 < rpifan> up and down
04:03 < rpifan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlv672jqbtE
04:03 <+layer-eight> * rpifan →  YouTube → Vengaboys - Up & Down → ⚘ 17,519,883 ↑ 60,007 ↓ 2,676 ✍ 2,982
04:08 < catbeard> http://extrafabulouscomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/4.jpg
04:08 <+layer-eight> * catbeard →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 81,534 bytes
04:12 < aName> I'm amused and saddened that the GOP is considering putting up recreational marijuana for legalization ahead of the normal election day because they know more democrats will show up.
04:12 < aName> Like, it's dirty, but eh... I'll take it
04:14 < coderphive> Waddup dudes and dudettes
04:14 < coderphive> For whatever reason it was a bit ticket item this year for the GOP
04:15 < coderphive> big*
04:15 < coderphive> All the politicians in Texas were talking about it
04:18 < joelazot> Hello friends
04:18 < coderphive> o lawd
04:18 < joelazot> o lawd
04:19 < coderphive> meme teen
04:19 < joelazot> indeed
04:19 < coderphive> Have you learned to code yet?
04:21 < enix> omg have barely sat down today
04:22 < coderphive> enix: I sat down all day
04:22 < coderphive> You know why?
04:22 < joelazot> coderphive: I already knew lol
04:22 < aName> I slept a large part of the day.
04:22 < joelazot> coderphive: I used to do c# development
04:22 < enix> Because you're lazy?
04:23 < joelazot> for ufn
04:23 < aName> Because holidays are one of the few times I get to rest uninterrupted lol
04:23 < millendra> sup enix
04:23 < coderphive> fun and C# do not belong in the same sentence iirc
04:23 < aName> If you want to code for fun, learn python
04:23 < aName> It's much less painful
04:23 < enix> python is good for coding forfun
04:23 < coderphive> Python is a fun language
04:23 < coderphive> It's like your fun uncle
04:24 < aName> It lets you do whatever you want, lol
04:24 < enix> Yo millendra
04:24 < aName> And it has all kinds of awesome toys
04:24 < aName> oblig 'import antigravity'
04:24 < joelazot> I already know a bit of python
04:25 < joelazot> is it fine if i primarily learn it for scripting and not development
04:25 < joelazot> I would assume so
04:25 < aName> Yeah
04:25 < aName> check out automatetheboringstuff.com
04:25 < aName> It's more office-drone automation than sysadmin automation but the principles translate.
04:26 < coderphive> wat
04:26 < coderphive> Python is used in development
04:26 < coderphive> All of Reddit is coded in Python
04:26 < coderphive> You're earning your name meme teen
04:26 < joelazot> did you read my message
04:26 < joelazot> im confused
04:26 < coderphive> oh
04:27 < joelazot> lol
04:27 < coderphive> Yes, python is good for development
04:27 < coderphive> Python jobs kind of pay mediocre though
04:27 < coderphive> It's the laymans lang
04:27 < coderphive> It's one step above learning PHP
04:27 < joelazot> yeah sounds about right
04:27 < joelazot> I just want to use python for scripting
04:27 < coderphive> and maybe just about as woke as Ruby
04:28 < coderphive> Compiled languages pay the big bucks
04:28 < aName> coderphive: Yeah and coal mining pays pretty well, too =p
04:28 < aName> coderphive: Doesn't mean I wanna do it
04:28 < joelazot> I don't want to be a dev D:
04:28 < joelazot> I enjoy scripting not development
04:28 < aName> joelazot: Python is great for scripting
04:28 <+DrGibby|> any Cisco Voice folks around?
04:28 < coderphive> Generally .NET pays a shit ton, but that's because you're a slave to their stack
04:29 < coderphive> joelazot: there's no room for that in the future
04:29 < coderphive> In fact, by the time you hit the workforce I will bet my house the title "sys admin" as we know it will be gone
04:29 < joelazot> ok
04:29 < aName> coderphive: All devops all the time? good thing I already know how to code. =D
04:30 < kepler> it is painful to think of developers doing anything operations
04:30 < coderphive> haha, yeah I guess you can put it that way
04:30 < coderphive> I just think people will be coding away more and more of their jobs
04:30 < coderphive> kepler: It's more operations/systems people learning languages than developers crossing over
04:31 < aName> ^
04:31 < joelazot> so I'm currently learning ansible which is really cool
04:31 < kepler> coderphive: but it is a different skillset
04:31 < joelazot> and messing around with AWS
04:31 < coderphive> kepler: what is
04:31 < aName> We get a fair bit of 'can you modify this minor functionality in this software' requests
04:31 < kepler> operations vs development
04:31 < aName> So I've had to become versed in a smattering of languages
04:32 < coderphive> You're expected to learn to code, not to be a senior software engineer
04:32 < coderphive> Big difference
04:32 < joelazot> what languages other than python would you suggest i learn? I'm assuming bash is one?
04:33 < coderphive> Go, Rust
04:33 < coderphive> maybe Java
04:33 <+A-KO> powershell
04:33 < coderphive> Those are the biggies
04:33 < coderphive> bash would be big
04:33 <+A-KO> powershell is life
04:33 < joelazot> I'm thinking for automation
04:33 < coderphive> You'll need it for makefiles and containers
04:35 < Holo> bash is a must
04:36 < kepler> power blip
04:36 < joelazot> Ah ok
04:36 < coderphive> It also depends whether you go MS stack or an open stack
04:37 < Holo> again bash is a MUST
04:37 < coderphive> open stack I would say has more to learn, where MS stack is pretty pipelined
04:37 < Holo> most servers use some form of linux
04:37 < coderphive> Also more restrictive and enterprisey
04:38 < coderphive> Holo: Most web/backend*
04:38 < joelazot> ^
04:38 < coderphive> Microsoft still owns a large portion of the market
04:38 < coderphive> It's just in niche categories
04:38 < joelazot> hard to believe but some people use IIS
04:38 < Holo> ya
04:38 < coderphive> and tbh I kind of doubt that MS wants to keep that market
04:38 < coderphive> hence .NET Core
04:38 < Holo> my entire personal web/server setup is running in docker containers now
04:39 < coderphive> Containers are nice if you're not a dumbass
04:39 < Holo> saves me from depend HELL
04:39 < coderphive> I see people complain about them all the time, then listen to what they tried to make them do
04:39 < coderphive> idk if they know how much of their own ignorance they're advertising but it's lulzy
04:39 < Holo> coderphive the thinking is a little different
04:40 < coderphive> Holo: I might say _quite_ different
04:40 < Holo> once I learned how to use docker properly... oh man
04:40 < coderphive> Containers in general are kind of unending learning
04:40 < joelazot> I'm learning Linux, but after I feel very comfortable i might do a little bit of stuff with windows server again
04:40 < joelazot> just to keep my doors open
04:40 < coderphive> I connected up USB ports to some of my containers running my house
04:40 < coderphive> it was pretty neat
04:41 < Holo> I just love how I can hot swap php, nginx etc with 0 downtime
04:41 < joelazot> oh shit chromosones are coming up
04:41 < coderphive> joelazot: you have an extra?
04:41 < joelazot> coderphive: daiwjdwaidjawdosji yess
04:41 < joelazot> coderphive: /s
04:41 < Holo> and shit will work since I was able to test the exact same environment at home
04:42 < coderphive> Kube has been a joy ride for my org
04:43 < coderphive> We don't do container based db's yet, but we have a strategy whiteboarded that we've been iterating on
04:43 < coderphive> I think we're close
04:43 < Holo> I just containered my database yesterday
04:43 < coderphive> I just worry about transferring data if we have to roll clusters
04:44 < aleph-> So, running a db in kubernetes?
04:44 < coderphive> Yeap
04:44 < aleph-> Isn't that generally advised against?
04:44 < coderphive> Not really
04:44 < coderphive> It's possible, you just have to have a good plan
04:45 < coderphive> PV's aren't transferrable cluster to cluster without some effort
04:45 < coderphive> and even then you have to orchestrate it yourself
04:45 < joelazot> Is there anything wrong with having Docker and KVM on the same box?
04:45 < coderphive> Nope
04:45 < joelazot> ok
04:45 < joelazot> btw is there anything wrong with using kvm snapshots as backups>
04:45 < joelazot> ?
04:46 < coderphive> Nope
04:46 < coderphive> That's the proper thing to do
04:46 < joelazot> yeah i wasn
04:47 < joelazot> I wasn't sure cause i saw a talk of a redhat intern at a KVM convension complaining about it
04:47 < joelazot> or something
04:47 < coderphive> meh
04:47 < coderphive> RedHat is a weird organization to be honest
04:47 < coderphive> I would take them with a grain of salt
04:48 < joelazot> i geuss if my host goes down i just have to redeploy a KVM host and make vms with those images
04:48 < coderphive> Typically yes
04:53 < JollyRgrs> joelazot: when i got an upgraded box, i installed KVM on the 2nd one and just did a quick migration. since storage was also local, i couldn't do the fancy "live migration"
04:53 < JollyRgrs> so it was basically just take the snapshot of the hdd and load it up in a new VM on a new host, pretty simple
04:54 < joelazot> ooo
04:57 < JollyRgrs> my downtimes were <20 seconds per host
04:57 < JollyRgrs> and that's doing it the janky ghetto way
04:57 < joelazot> woah
04:58 < coderphive> KVM is legit
04:58 < coderphive> Way better an Xen
04:58 < coderphive> even better than libvirt
04:59 < joelazot> coderphive: what
04:59 < nickster> has anyone ever played with proxmox and iscsi targets
04:59 < joelazot> how is kvm better than libvirt
04:59 < joelazot> they're completely seperate things
05:01 < coderphive> idk why I said that tbh
05:01 < coderphive> lmao
05:04 < coderphive> I'm kind of out of it. I've had three pages today, all dealing with the same issue which also happens to be a long-standing stability issue with our RabbitMQ consumers on our legacy app.
05:05 < coderphive> This Grails app lets consumers die with zero messages and zero exceptions, so I got fed up and wired a bunch of prometheus up to it only to find our that Amazon is apparently throttling various virtual cores.
05:09 <+TuxedoJack> Kittens + valerian-laced catnip + claws + open skin = I'VE MADE A HUGE MISTAKE
05:10 < joelazot> I'm off.
05:10 < joelazot> cya.
05:27 < enix> I'm not a total BOFH... I just stopped the companies email because someone sent a 'bad email' to the wrong person
05:27 < enix> Unfortunately I couldn't find the email... I really wanted to see what was so bad
05:29 <+DrGibby|> delete all mailboxes
05:29 <+DrGibby|> it was malware
05:29 < MillerBOSS> `bofh
05:29 < enix> It's the only way
05:29 <+layer-eight> BOFH Elves on strike. (why do they call emag elf magic)
05:29 <+DrGibby|> only way you can survive
05:29 < enix> wtf is that
05:29 < enix> I understand making it challenging but come on... who wrote this shit
05:29 < enix> `bofh
05:29 <+layer-eight> BOFH Cpu radiator broken
05:29 < enix> ^^^^
05:29 < enix> winner winner chicken dinner
05:30 < MillerBOSS> DrGibby| is right enix
05:30 < MillerBOSS> See here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0mwT3DkG4w
05:30 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  YouTube → The Website is Down Episode #4: Sales Demolition (NSFW) → ⚘ 491,972 ↑ 3,767 ↓ 58 ✍ 501
05:30 < enix> OMFG
05:30 < enix> I found the email (it's already been delivered)
05:31 < enix> He sent a god honest evaluation of someones performance to that person instead of a super visor
05:31 < MillerBOSS> Fake virus attack
05:32 < enix> We can place your website on top of the Natural Listings on Google, Yahoo
05:32 < enix> and MSN.
05:32 < enix> Didn't know "MSN Search Engine" was athing
05:32 < MillerBOSS> SAY IT AIN'T SO!?
05:33 < enix> no fuck this i need coffee....
05:33 < enix> brb
05:35 < MillerBOSS> Sure, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE3KdcTgrno don't mind if I do
05:35 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  YouTube → Ventrilo Harassment - Duke Nukem Style → ⚘ 9,022,073 ↑ 76,238 ↓ 1,789 ✍ 27,092
05:36 < coderphive> lmfao
05:39 < MillerBOSS> OH SNAP
05:39 <@Nostalg14c> What year is it.
05:39 < MillerBOSS> 1847
05:45 < technonerd> work tomorrow ugh
05:45 < technonerd> at least i get decent parking srugface
05:46 <+DrGibby|> the amount of work getting done tomorrow is a very exact number
05:46 <+DrGibby|> its round, in fact
05:46 < MillerBOSS> ZERO
05:46 < nohusuro> 8
05:46 <+DrGibby|> WE'VE GOT A WINNER
05:46 < nohusuro> 8 works please
05:47 <+DrGibby|> thats "two round"
05:47 < nohusuro> you're too round!
05:47 <+DrGibby|> better spoken, but meh
05:47 < nohusuro> ba dum tshh
05:47 <+DrGibby|> ayyy
05:47 < coderphive> Nostalg14c: today in america it's 1775
05:47 < nohusuro> but seriously, I don't think I've done much actual work for 2 weeks now
05:47 <@Nostalg14c> coderphive: ye? Explains your potus.
05:48 <+DrGibby|> I know the feeling
05:48 <@Nostalg14c> nohusuro: amen
05:48 <+DrGibby|> no politics, Nostalg14c
05:48 <+DrGibby|> pls
05:48 <+DrGibby|> :(
05:48 <@Nostalg14c> Nah i lie. i've migrated like 10 dhcp servers
05:48 <@Nostalg14c> and a bunch of sshit
05:48 < nohusuro> I was getting so bored I migrated our nimble storage and moved the array to a different rack
05:48 < coderphive> Nostalg14c: America's not defined by a single person
05:48 < nohusuro> have started deracking and blowing dust out of shit
05:49 < coderphive> No country is
05:49 < nohusuro> at least I got to do a bit of soldering to try and fix a circuit board yesterday
05:49 < nohusuro> that was entertaining
05:49 < enix> You can't like.. recind an email can you
05:49 < coderphive> enix: depends on the protocol
05:49  * enix shrugs
05:49 < nohusuro> you can request it, but it depends if the server supports it
05:49 < coderphive> on Google's implmentation you can
05:50 < enix> It's going to Outlook.com
05:50 < enix> So I'm saying not
05:50 <@Nostalg14c> enix: no
05:51 < enix> Apparently there's history there that'll cause some backlash sooooooo
05:51  * enix gets popcorn
05:51 < misspwn> hooray  the fireworks have slowed. also nohusuro must be fucking nice to have that kinda freedom
05:51  * misspwn envies that
05:52 <@Nostalg14c> rly need to ge ta can of compressed air for my home pc
05:52 < Virtual-Potato> enix, what happened
05:52 < Virtual-Potato> nvm
05:52 < Virtual-Potato> I scrolled
05:52 < Virtual-Potato> yow... sent an eval to the person he's reviewing
05:52 <@Nostalg14c> I mean,you can delete it fairly quick in exch.
05:53 < Virtual-Potato> ^
05:53 < enix> Nostalg14c: but once it's hit Microsofts server we can't do anything
05:54 < enix> It's in his inbox; case closed.
05:54 <@Nostalg14c> Is this not all internal?
05:54 <@Nostalg14c> He sent an email to someone outside the organisatioN?
05:54 < enix> Yuhp
05:54 < Virtual-Potato> or has o365
05:54 < Virtual-Potato> oh
05:54 <@Nostalg14c> Assumed the review would be internal lol
05:54 <@Nostalg14c> .
05:54 <@Nostalg14c> Unlucky.
05:55 < enix> I think he had a mind fart and accidentally put the reviewee's email in instead of an internal email address in
05:55 < Virtual-Potato> all you can do is damage control at this point
05:55 < enix> Solid effort too because the intended receiver and receiver are nothign alike
05:55 <@Nostalg14c> Whelp, hope it wasn't the most brutal review of all time.
05:56 <@Nostalg14c> Maybe send them a gift certificate to a psychologist.
05:56 < coderphive> Sounds like it was
05:57 < Virtual-Potato> You could tell the guy to send a second e-mail, and CC the supervisor in it. Tell him that this was meant to be sent to both, and wanted to ensure that all parties involved have the chance to look at the review
05:57 < coderphive> In america I think that opens the company up for some pretty big liability
05:57 < enix> Honestly I've read the email. It's basically "<person> swung by today so I met up with him and returned his deposit. He had a positive demeanor when I met up with him. While returning his deposit, he mentioned he'd tried to contact us, to which I responded that we've had issues with email (bullshit). I've noted in his file that his deposit was returned"
05:57 < jay-ros> SPACE FORCE!@
05:57 < jay-ros> get involved
05:57 < enix> jay-ros: strong entry hombre
05:57 < jay-ros> Be a part of it enix
05:57 < enix> So really.. the review was just a rundown of the encounter. there was nothing actually said
05:57 < jay-ros> 'muria ^_^
05:57 < misspwn> enix,  also [expletive deleted] about review
05:58 <@Nostalg14c> Reported enix for snooping to the internet police.
05:58 <@Nostalg14c> Better check your IP bro
05:58 <@Nostalg14c> you're done for.
05:58 < Virtual-Potato> Nostalg14c, why did I get your report?
05:58 < Virtual-Potato> You send the report to the wrong guy?
05:58 <@Nostalg14c> \o/
05:58 < jay-ros> wait... what happened enix?
05:59 < Virtual-Potato> I'm reporting YOU to the internet police
05:59 < enix> Nostalg14c: I'm a sysadmin currently sipping an espresso... am I meant to do something else whilst I consume it?
05:59 < Virtual-Potato> yell
05:59 <@Nostalg14c> enix: rage on irc about how dumb users are.
05:59 < misspwn> supposed to be pettin kangaroos!
05:59 < Virtual-Potato> and facedesk
05:59 <@Nostalg14c> and/or co-workers.
05:59 < enix> jay-ros: Someone had a brainfart, sent a sensitive internal email regarding a particular external person to said external person
05:59 < misspwn> oh shit
05:59 < jay-ros> oh fuck
05:59 < jay-ros> is 'someone' you, or someone else?
05:59 < misspwn> i was reading but wasn't really sure what you meant with htat
06:00 < Virtual-Potato> just damage control it, enix. Do what I suggested earlier
06:00 < enix> jay-ros: if it was me I would have stopped out smtp faster our milter could look at it
06:00 < jay-ros> hahaha fair enough
06:00 < enix> It wasn't me; I'm just sitting here enjoying my coffee
06:00 < coderphive> "why is email down"
06:00 < coderphive> idk
06:00 < jay-ros> I need to order a space force coffee mug
06:00 < enix> lolol I've taken email down about five times this week and noones noticed
06:00 < coderphive> *quietly deletes secret email chain about $boss*
06:00 < enix> Okay okay okay I'll bite
06:00 < enix> Whats space force?
06:01 < coderphive> I think it's some thing trump mentioned
06:01 < Virtual-Potato> I need a good sysadmin mug
06:01 < jay-ros> Trump announced that they're starting a new department
06:01 < coderphive> That we needed "space military"
06:01 < jay-ros> like air force, for space
06:01 < misspwn> well i did one similar. sent a email to counter an offer for job salary and called the guy a different name in the email
06:01 < Virtual-Potato> a good sysadmin-themed mug that can hold a lot of coffee, that is
06:01 < coderphive> basically contradicts UN agreements
06:01 < coderphive> same news, different day
06:01 < misspwn> what's even better with that is, i sent a new email to him at like 3am when i realized i made said mistake
06:01 < jay-ros> misspwn, to trump?
06:01 < misspwn> 10/10 did not get the counter offer
06:02 < jay-ros> ah, not trump
06:02 < misspwn> got the job, but not the extra i was askin for
06:02 < jay-ros> I've emailed the wrong phillip, that's about it
06:02 < enix> misspwn: I've done that. Except I'm Australian so I just said that I was drunk when I emailed and got his name wrong and that is 100% totally acceptable in this country
06:02 < misspwn> hahhaha
06:02 < enix> Unless you emailed before pubs open, which is not okay
06:02 < jay-ros> this checks out; valid aussie argument
06:02 < misspwn> yeah it was the CTO D:
06:02 < enix> And I won't lie; I wish I was joking.
06:02 < Virtual-Potato> My name is pretty common, but people keep calling me 'John' for some unknown reason. My name doesn't even remotely resemble 'John'
06:02 < misspwn> fortunately he had humor
06:03 < enix>  misspwn lucky!
06:03 < misspwn> Virtual-Potato, i called him john which was the other guy i interviewed with
06:03 < coderphive> I think the worst I've done is invite an employee to a meeting with her boss that we were going to collectively criticize said employee at
06:03 < Virtual-Potato> misspwn, I think I remember you
06:03 < Virtual-Potato> jk jk
06:03 < misspwn> :))))
06:03 < coderphive> It was awkward when she walked in
06:04 < misspwn> coderphive, that is incredibly awkward
06:04 < misspwn> worst i've done was got an email from HR to terminate a user and no one told me you weren't supposed to create a ticket for it
06:04 < jay-ros> my most recent conversation with citrix
06:04 < coderphive> misspwn: lulz
06:04 < misspwn> create ticket and it shoots email to the person gettin fired who was in a meeting and checked email on projector screen
06:04 < Virtual-Potato> lmao
06:05 < coderphive> LOL
06:05 < jay-ros> "When we pay for Citrix we don't pay for just a license, and hopes and dreams that one day it will work; we pay for a service that runs without me spending one day a week dedicated to fixing consistent issues"
06:05 < coderphive> rekt
06:05 < Virtual-Potato> I feel for that guy, but that's hilarious
06:05 < jay-ros> "We are paying for remote desktop services, and right now you are the one who should be convincing me by best option is not to uninstall the whole thing and find a better solution which just works"
06:05 < enix> misspwn: THAT IS THE GREATEST EVER
06:05 < Virtual-Potato> jay-ros, don't get me started on citrix
06:05 < misspwn> enix, idk how i didn't get fired for that
06:05 < jay-ros> "Because that's the situation I'm in right now - you were contacted by our sales manager because you're the guy he's depending on to keep our business. Do you understand?"
06:05 < coderphive> To be fair, this woman learned that day that just because I don't exist in her department doesn't mean I can't go talk to the directors that run it
06:06 < jay-ros> I'll drop them like Kanye drops sick beats in 7-track albums
06:06 < misspwn> jay-ros, fuckin citrix like it'll work flawleess or it doesn't
06:06 < misspwn> i don't know shit about it other than maybe reinstalling it rofl
06:06 < jay-ros> yeah, I'm currently firing up 6 new servers from scratch
06:06 < misspwn> shitty program launches from IE that uses citrix reciever doesn't work? uhhhhhhhhh uninstall
06:07 < enix> misspwn: tbh they can't complain about you creating tickets for your work :P but maybe put account terminations into the HR queue and not hte users...
06:07 < misspwn> enix, well right, and an email blast went out to correct that one
06:07 < enix> misspwn: it's best practice not to put terminations under the users actual name.
06:07 < jay-ros> motherfucker citrix guy had the nerve to ask me how often I did windows reboots, and asked me if I could update windows
06:07  * enix said best practice
06:07 < enix> come at me coderphive
06:07 < coderphive> :|
06:07 < coderphive> reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
06:07 < enix> See how it worked in that instance?
06:07 < Virtual-Potato> what's wrong with best practices?
06:07 < jay-ros> coderphive - the citrix guy said 'best practise'... go do something to him
06:08 < coderphive> Honestly he's a citrix guy so he did something to himself
06:08 < enix> woooooaahhhhhhhh okay listen here
06:08 < enix> I might agree that citrix has it's uses
06:08 < enix> BUT
06:08 < enix> I hate it.
06:08 < misspwn> what is the alternative?
06:08 < enix> Yesterday we were doing a mass EOFY run for donators and citrix crashed
06:08 < enix> misspwn: properly developed applications
06:08 < coderphive> whew
06:08 < enix> citrix crashing lost all our work :)
06:08 < misspwn> tbh i don't know what it does
06:09 < enix> It crashed because authentication timed out....
06:09 < enix> like are you fucking kidding me
06:09 < coderphive> idk about the citrix virtual desktop and all that
06:09 < misspwn> i've restarted a citrix server but i don't know dick about it or the application other than it's virtual stuff
06:09 < enix> misspwn: ever used RDP to display a single application?
06:09 < misspwn> ok yeah
06:09 < coderphive> But people who pipe apps that should be web apps through citrix have earned their place in hell
06:09 < enix> xenapp/citrix is basically that except shit
06:09 < enix> and it's now html5 so kill me
06:10 < Virtual-Potato> coderphive, are you insinuating that citrix guys are masochists?
06:10 < misspwn> so when xenapp crashes  all i've ever been told by them is to reinstall
06:10 < misspwn> or check java
06:10 < coderphive> Virtual-Potato: actually yes
06:10 < enix> coderphive: biggest radio company in australia used citrix to access VNC and RDP....
06:10 < coderphive> It's not uncommon
06:10 < misspwn> and actually citrix once told me to uninstall each java and restat after every uninstall then re load one by one and then reload xenapp
06:10 < enix> Virtual-Potato: they're up there with printer techs
06:10 < jay-ros> enix - do you mean MIX fm?
06:10 < coderphive> It's just uncannily disgusting
06:10 < enix> jay-ros: HA
06:10 < enix> jay-ros: Nah Tim's alright
06:10 < enix> He know's what he's doing.
06:11 < misspwn> like there was some backassward way to "fix" citrix to work with some stupid program
06:11 < misspwn> run some random scripts
06:11 < misspwn> "what do they do?" who fucking knows
06:11 < coderphive> My exposure to citrix was a healthcare app that was run as a binary and should've never been a binary
06:11 < misspwn> well misspwn did you clear the cache
06:11 < coderphive> It was then piped through citrix and extended its cancer nation wide
06:12 < misspwn> do you guys pronounce cache as cash or cash-ay?
06:12 < coderphive> This was also the most common form of virtualization that I observed at the time
06:12 < Virtual-Potato> ca-che
06:12 < coderphive> which also required AD seats
06:12 < enix> jay-ros: I actually got offered a job at mix fm... kinda wish I took it but i'm in a REALLLYYYYY good position where I am now
06:12 < enix> also the job wasn't open until end of year
06:12 < coderphive> so, two fold disgusting
06:12 < misspwn> this fucking guy told me while remoted onto a desktop that he cleared the internet cashayyy and i was like holeeey shit
06:12 < coderphive> I'll take Kubernetes over that
06:14 < coderphive> misspwn: like cash, like a normal person
06:14 < Virtual-Potato> coderphive, but didn't you say they were masochists?
06:14 < Virtual-Potato> so they'd be pronouncing it as cashayyy
06:14 < coderphive> Bc they want to sound french
06:15 < coderphive> Easy correlation there
06:15 < coderphive> http://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/ct-tribu-words-work-cache-20110706-story.html
06:15 <+layer-eight> * coderphive →  How to pronounce cache - Chicago Tribune
06:16 < Virtual-Potato> just ask CS:GO players
06:16 < jay-ros> I've got 'Steal my kisses' stuck in my head
06:16 < jay-ros> .yt steal my kisses
06:16 < jay-ros> .yt...
06:16  * coderphive crickets
06:16 < Virtual-Potato> .youtube
06:16 < jay-ros> get-bot -identity "layer-eight" | ft name, status
06:16 < coderphive> this isn't `kubectl`
06:16 < Ayeitzabee> Mmmm, powershell
06:17 < Ayeitzabee> jay-ros, ain't it | select name, status?
06:17 < jay-ros> aye, FT does format table
06:17 < jay-ros> I could also sort, but there's only one.
06:17 < enix> pleb
06:17 < Ayeitzabee> Oh yeah aha
06:17 < enix> who needs a table for that
06:17 < Ayeitzabee> ^
06:17 < coderphive> windows users
06:17 < Virtual-Potato> ^
06:17 < jay-ros> oh man, I'm in a mood
06:18 < jay-ros> my first thought enix was "what, we're gonna fuck on the floor?"
06:18 < Ayeitzabee> You know it is best practice to use tables coderphive
06:18 < Virtual-Potato> yeah where are ya gonna eat
06:18 < jay-ros> habit, ft -autosize
06:18  * coderphive shits self
06:18 < Virtual-Potato> over the sink?
06:18 < jay-ros> neighbour's sink is much nicer.
06:19 < Virtual-Potato> plus they have a garbage disposal
06:19 < Ayeitzabee> So when you are done you can clean up the hooker
06:19 < Virtual-Potato> I think the motor in the garbage disposal would burn out
06:20 < Virtual-Potato> Don't think they're rated for an entire hooker
06:21 < JollyRgrs> Virtual-Potato: i dunno
06:21 < JollyRgrs> some of those crack whores are pretty skinny
06:21 < JollyRgrs> not much meat on the bones
06:21 < Virtual-Potato> garbage disposals can chew through meat no problem, it's the bones that are harder to chew through
06:22 < JollyRgrs> that's when you get some hogs
06:22 < Virtual-Potato> maybe find one with osteoporosis?
06:22 < Virtual-Potato> JollyRgrs, yeah just make sure they haven't been fed for 2 or 3 days
06:22 < Virtual-Potato> they'll be real hungry
06:23 < JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xUynRdzzsM
06:23 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  YouTube → Six Pieces, Sixteen Pigs - Snatch (5/8) Movie CLIP (2000) HD → ⚘ 827,051 ↑ 2,388 ↓ 98 ✍ 236
06:25 < coderphive> wtf have I returned to
06:25 < Ayeitzabee> Hooker disposal, durr
06:26 < Virtual-Potato> #reddit-sysadmin is returning to its roots
06:27 < Ayeitzabee> Real aussie hours up in this joint!
06:28 <@Nostalg14c> ye
06:29 <@Nostalg14c> so my pc obtained office updates
06:29 <@Nostalg14c> from our sccm wsus
06:29 <@Nostalg14c> but i dont know how
06:29 < enix> bro fuck nbn
06:29 <@Nostalg14c> because that isn't approved/deployed.
06:29 < enix> How the fuck are people meant to run a business if the only internet for an area is NBN and I can't even get them to fucking connect it
06:29 <@Nostalg14c> why not
06:30 < enix> Brand new house; fibre to the drive way (as far as I've been made aware) and I can't connect to the internet... it's a joke.
06:30 <@Nostalg14c> well at least you got fibre nearby
06:31 <@Nostalg14c> i live 5 minutes from the fucking center of perth
06:31 <@Nostalg14c> and dont have nbn
06:31 <@Nostalg14c> until next year sometime
06:31 < enix> Nostalg14c: yeah but brand new estate so it's really expected
06:31 < enix> and that's IF they've done anything
06:31 <@Nostalg14c> meanwhile fucking government housing subsurbs have fucking nbn
06:31 < enix> I should have moved into a fucking housing comission
06:31 < enix> sounds like i'd have at least 10/10 there
06:31 <@Nostalg14c> shouldve aye
06:31 <@Nostalg14c> cheap rent
06:31 < enix> cheap rent + nbn.. basically my house but with nbn -.-
06:31 < JollyRgrs> ugh
06:31 < JollyRgrs> i gotta go to work tomorrow
06:32 < JollyRgrs> means i should prob go to sleep now
06:32 < JollyRgrs> g'nite
06:32 <@Nostalg14c> oh nice
06:32 <@Nostalg14c> they fucking removed the ETA from my address
06:32 <@Nostalg14c> that's a good sign.
06:33 <@Nostalg14c> Estimated Availability of 27-06-2018
06:33 <@Nostalg14c> This makes no sense, that was a week ago.
06:33 <@Nostalg14c> NBN has provided an updated Estimated Availability of 18/02/2019
06:33 <@Nostalg14c> NBN has provided an updated Estimated Availability of 27-06-2018
06:33 <@Nostalg14c> NBN has provided an updated Estimated Availability of 30/09/2018
06:33 < jay-ros> Nostalg14c, I had my nbn installed the day I moved in last week
06:33 <@Nostalg14c> Lord konws.
06:33 < enix> omg this whole things a shit fest
06:33 < jay-ros> they called me up on Monday "You want it installed thursday?" "No, I'm moving home that day. First thing in the morning Friday?"
06:34 < jay-ros> "no problem!" 8.45am the guy called, turned up at 9
06:34 < jay-ros> iiNet were surprisingly on-point
06:34 < enix> is bigair still shit?
06:34 <@Nostalg14c> Solid.
06:34 <@Nostalg14c> All my friends on iiNet had to move off though.
06:34 < Virtual-Potato> Nostalg14c, add them all up. You'll get it sometime in the year 6055
06:34 <@Nostalg14c> Congestion during peak hours = lag/
06:35 < enix> oh i can't get big air...
06:35 < enix> because i dont have a fucking view of the mountain tops.
06:36 < enix> is internet access considered a required amenity in a rental agreement
06:36 <@Nostalg14c> no
06:36 <@Nostalg14c> well, no idea, but i highly highgly doubt it.
06:36 <+DrGibby|> any cisco voice nerds around?
06:40 < jay-ros> Not really but I'm sure we could crowdsource a reasonably point in the right direction
06:40 < jay-ros> have a crack Dr
06:40 < Virtual-Potato> s/a/some
06:40 <+layer-eight> [SED Virtual-Potato/jay-ros] hsomeve a crack Dr
06:40 < Virtual-Potato> damn it
06:40 < jay-ros> s/it/delayed SPACE FORCE programme
06:40 <+layer-eight> [SED jay-ros/Virtual-Potato] damn delayed SPACE FORCE programme
06:41 < Virtual-Potato> s/ a/ some
06:41 <+layer-eight> [SED Virtual-Potato] dsomemn it
06:41 <+DrGibby|> ye, this issue is something really specific
06:41 < jay-ros> nice
06:41 < jay-ros> hit it
06:41 < Virtual-Potato> layer-eight is stupid
06:42 <+DrGibby|> I'm after what it takes to get calls to work when I hear nothing on either end using 9971's through a SIP trunk to a provider
06:42 < enix> how the fuck can someone "boast" speeds of "up to 12/1 Mbps down/up"
06:42 < jay-ros> hahahaha
06:43 < jay-ros> enix - you're awesome
06:43 <+DrGibby|> so, 9971's -> meh -> 2951 with CME -> SIP provider
06:43 < jay-ros> I'm sporting a trendy 92/38 at home as of just before I left the house this morning
06:43 < jay-ros> and a casual 86/26 last night at 9pm
06:43 < enix> Oh and would you look at that.. I live on number 2 and numbers 3+ are all registered
06:43 < Virtual-Potato> I'm sporting a nice 220/10
06:43 < jay-ros> Virtual-Potato, you're a potato.
06:43 < jay-ros> that's impressive
06:44 < Virtual-Potato> I just don't get how they throttle the upload so much
06:44  * enix checks telstra's site
06:44 < enix> shits getting serious
06:44 < enix> s/serious/desperate
06:44 <+layer-eight> [SED enix] shits getting desperate
06:45  * enix can't even check availability...
06:46 < jay-ros> hey Virtual, what's with the low upload speed?
06:47 < jay-ros> oh, also, the citrix guy said "how long will it take you to build six windows servers with latest updates and antivirus?
06:47 < jay-ros> I said "hmm... about an hour"
06:48 < enix> "Great news - we'll automatically top up your data for just $10 per extra 1GB."
06:48 < jay-ros> I took a quick lunch break, had a chat with my workmates, then jumped in and set up the servers. 1 hour for build and windows update, DHCP reservation and antivirus updates
06:48 < enix> That's fantastic news!!!
06:49 < jay-ros> oh enix, I hate that one.
06:49 < enix> Thanks for only updating it once a day too!
06:49 < enix> I love getting 8 emails saying I've gone over my 'add on'
06:49 < jay-ros> I tethered my mobile to my home server, which didn't have the 'this is a metered conneciton' option... it chewed 7gb in no time
06:50 < xe0n> loll
06:50 < enix> jay-ros: I'll go you one better
06:50 < enix> jay-ros: I hooked up my PS4 to my 4G internet at home so I could play a game of GTA Online
06:50 < jay-ros> I had a 1.3gb mac update on a blackberry 6 years ago enix
06:50 < jay-ros> ...in new zealand
06:50 < jay-ros> $15000 add-on to the regular account bill on our office services
06:51 < enix> jay-ros: I put my PS4 into "rest mode" which allows it to do updates over night
06:51 < enix> I forgot that it auto-updates for every game installed...
06:51 < jay-ros> oh fuck
06:51 < enix> Despite the genuine mistake, Optus refused to wave or discount the fee
06:51 < jay-ros> waive* - not being pedantic, but you should know :)
06:51 < enix> Oh right sorry
06:52 < enix> I think of "wave" because I envision someone waving their hand as they say "dw about it mate"
06:52 < jay-ros> all good :) it's a word we use often enough to correct it
06:52 < enix> But I guess indians dont do that.
06:52 < jay-ros> yeah it's one of those PITA ones
06:52 < enix> They just bob their head side to side and say "we cannot do that mr enix"
06:52 < jay-ros> hahahahaha
06:52 < jay-ros> 'I'm just doin' the needful, sur
06:52 < enix> Thanks for redirecting me to six fucking departments for that answer
06:53 < jay-ros> grr. my servers are not in an OU at the moment, so firewall rules are on
06:53 < jay-ros> but I don't want to move them to the old Citrix OU because it has some funky GPOs which might be messing up the groove
06:55 < enix> I just want to get home and sort this internet shit out and do my budgetting
06:55 < enix> Oh wait... I need internet for that.
06:56 < enix> I guess I could spend the night updating my finances for my business... oh wait I need the internet for xero
06:56 < jay-ros> enix - you could politely knock on the neighbour's door if you've spoken to them before
06:57 < Virtual-Potato> jay-ros, it's this ISP
06:57 < enix> jay-ros: I'm thinking about chatting to them about this actually because I find it hard to believe that they don't have internet
06:57 < enix> COnsidering one of the blokes works in fucking IT
06:57 < Virtual-Potato> they give you high download speeds sure, but you're stuck with shitty 10mbps upload
06:58 < Virtual-Potato> enix, whats wrong with your internet
06:58 < enix> Virtual-Potato: Not a single ISP in Australia can service my house
06:58 < Virtual-Potato> why not
06:59 < enix> Because it's brand new and hasn't been registered
06:59 < enix> Then I found out that if it gets registered, it could take up to six months to be available.
06:59 < enix> available/processed
06:59 < enix> Learned my lesson; if you ever get a rental, make sure you can get internet there first.
07:00 <+DrGibby|> hello gunshots
07:00 <+DrGibby|> wow
07:00 <+DrGibby|> like, right outside
07:00 < enix> DrGibby|: join in
07:00 < Virtual-Potato> ask your neighbor to get a 2nd line of service, and pay them the monthly fee + some extra for their inconvenience
07:00 < enix> You're american aren't you? Isnt that a way to say hello or something
07:00 < enix> She wouldn't have been able to get it
07:00 < enix> Her address isn't there either
07:01 < Virtual-Potato> who's your closest neighbor that has service?
07:01 < Virtual-Potato> ask them
07:01 < Virtual-Potato> and get a nice high gain antenna
07:01 < Virtual-Potato> or some kind of point-to-point wireless solution
07:02 < enix> Virtual-Potato: I wouldn't have a clue :(
07:02 < enix> Can't put an antenna in though; already looked at that option
07:02 < Virtual-Potato> why not
07:02 < enix> rental
07:02 <+DrGibby|> enix: I can never possess or fire a gun ever again, m8
07:02 < enix> DrGibby|: too many drive-bys
07:02 < enix> at cluckin' bell
07:03 <+DrGibby|> Sure
07:03 < enix> Dope
07:03 < enix> I'm gonna call up some hoodrats for some pizza and chill the hell out
07:03 < enix> you in?
07:03  * enix is making obvious gtasa references btw
07:03  * agent_white leans over
07:04 <+DrGibby|> nah
07:04 <+DrGibby|> not really :(
07:05 < coderphive> people have been shooting here too
07:05 < coderphive> Fucking idiots
07:15 < Brinks> Would an 8gb ram disk for WoW be able to hold all the data files for one zone, and have symlinks to the other 35gb on an ssd? Might drop /reload a bit without having to have 64gb of ram.
07:16 <+A-KO> what? lol
07:16 <+A-KO> why the hell would you do that?
07:16 <+A-KO> just put it on an SSD, WoW won't see an increase on faster disk like that....
07:16 <+A-KO> sadly
07:16 < Brinks> not even the loading screen...
07:17 <+A-KO> just put it on an SSD and call it a day :P
07:17 < Brinks> its like 3-4 sec
07:17 < Brinks> i want it to 1 sec
07:17 <+A-KO> so get an Intel 900P
07:18 < Brinks> i have raid 0 1.1GB/s
07:18 <+A-KO> you could maybe try symlinking the cache, but the CASC load system probably can't really bother
07:19 < Brinks> just want to have all the files that are loaded at load screen for garrison or a city with ah
07:19 < Brinks> for lightning fast reloads
07:19 < desgen> Heh Brinks is really determined A-KO
07:20 < desgen> He's really wanting to do this out of curiosity
07:20 <+A-KO> apparently
07:20 < desgen> but wont much admit it
07:20 <+A-KO> I mean you can try it, but I'd just symlink the cache
07:20 <+A-KO> the data is all over all of the CASC files
07:20 <+A-KO> there's no way to choose just a single file
07:20 < Brinks> but wouldn't that place the slower ssd in the middle
07:20 <+A-KO> there's no way to preload a single zone because model files could be anywhere in the 40GB worth of data files
07:21 <+A-KO> 52.8GB is BFA
07:21 <+A-KO> so
07:21 < Brinks> I know it is not loading 40gb
07:21 < Brinks> and i can spare about 12gb maybe
07:21 < Brinks> for the ramdisk
07:21 <+A-KO> it's not, no. it has indexes to finding data. But not all of the data file specific zones is within a single file
07:22 < Brinks> what would be the best program to use? I've only tried imdisk
07:22 <+A-KO> check your wow data folder, there are "data.###" files ;P good luck figuring out which ones you'd need to put into ramdisk
07:23 < Brinks> damn apparently the launcher doesn't finger the files
07:24 < desgen> The idea was flawed from the start, but I'm happy to know why
07:24 <+A-KO> the launcher has nothing to do with the game itself :P
07:24 < Brinks> I know... using that term loosely
07:25 < desgen> Being lossless doesn't produce noticeable quality often
07:25 < desgen> pun intended
07:27 < jay-ros> righto guys, i'm on with the citrix guy setting up 6 new servers, and citrix from scratch on the network.
07:28 < desgen> Does he taste like lemons
07:28 < jay-ros> I need everyone to cross your fingers, say a little prayer, light some candles
07:28 < coderphive> Well, generally people don't choose to have cancer but oh well
07:28 < millendra> what exactly is the past tense of doing the needful
07:29 < millendra> like if someone says please do the needful, and i did it, whats the response here
07:29 < desgen> do the needful again
07:30 < millendra> the needful is done already
07:30 < desgen> so needy
07:31 < jay-ros> redo the needful
07:31 < jay-ros> of course
07:31 < jay-ros> have you rebooted the server?
07:31 < jay-ros> how often do you reboot the server? can you do it more often
07:31 < millendra> i think i need to revert when complete
07:31 < jay-ros> please update windows
07:31 < jay-ros> > case resolve request from support team - reboot server
07:31 <+A-KO> millendra: I hate do the needful :( it's such a derogatory term
07:32 < desgen> reboot often fixes my need
07:32 < enix> A-KO: Want someone time come tuck you into your bubble wrap?
07:33 <+A-KO> what?
07:33 < desgen> he's calling you a puss puss
07:33 < enix> ^
07:33 <+A-KO> uh
07:33 <+A-KO> okay?
07:34 < enix> `fight A-KO
07:35 <+A-KO> this file copy needs to finish :/ ugh
07:38 < coderphive> A dude just confessed his love for lisp
07:38 < coderphive> I'm scurred
07:40 < agent_white> ()()((()()()()()())))()(((()
07:52 < jay-ros> s/(/BRRK
07:52 <+layer-eight> [SED jay-ros/agent_white] BRRK)()((()()()()()())))()(((()
07:52 < jay-ros> uh...
07:52 < jay-ros> damn
07:52 < rpifan> s/damn/cock
07:52 <+layer-eight> [SED rpifan/jay-ros] cock
07:53 < rpifan> s/[SED rpifan/jay-ros] cock/damn
07:54 < jay-ros> hahahaha
07:54 < jay-ros> just awful
08:00 < rpifan> the bot on linuxmastterrace is better for sed
08:01 < coderphive> oh shit
08:01 < coderphive> More shooting
08:09 < rootsudo> Hey fuckers
08:09 < desgen> go away
08:10 < rootsudo> lol
08:16 < coderphive> no rly
08:19 < humpaxx> Good morning
08:21 < enix> Just took a buggy for a spin
08:21 < enix> Swert
08:23 < humpaxx> Is that the car that Linsey lohan drives in "herbie" or one of them cool things you can drive with offroad?
08:25 < enix> http://www.excar.com.cn/photo/pl16768243-aluminum_6_seats_white_golf_buggy_cart_adc_48v_3_7kw_electric_golf_cart.jpg.
08:25 <+layer-eight> * enix →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 103,521 bytes
08:25 < enix> basically one of these
08:26 < enix> I 100% want to setup races with them
08:27 < humpaxx> I drove one of those 16 years ago
08:30 < enix> They're a blast
09:00 <@Nostalg14c> made our OSD background real pretty
09:00 <@Nostalg14c> thanks to some nerd on technet.
09:00 <@Nostalg14c> Feelsgoodman.
09:34 < jumi> morning
09:39 <@Nostalg14c> Ayo
09:40 <@Nostalg14c> Whats the term for the info.. in the windows system panel where you can customize it like OEM's do.
09:40 <@Nostalg14c> Oh its just OEMInfo, righto.
10:14 < vader-> Breaking out my network cabling skills for my plumbing project
10:14 < vader-> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/evBZf6do/20180705_033235.jpg
10:14 <+layer-eight> * vader- →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 202,239 bytes
10:15 < vader-> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/yQ4jxp0M/20180705_033131.jpg
10:15 <+layer-eight> * vader- →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 202,157 bytes
10:51 < Hatsjoe> Looks good vader-
11:06 < FenJai> Morning peeps
11:08 <+ihre> moin
11:17 < jumi> sup ihre
11:19 <+ihre> hey jumi
11:19 <+ihre> im trying to figure out if i can call a Makefile with an argument to launch a target :P
11:20 <+ihre> well, actually call with an argument to launch a target which in turn launches the target which matches the argument... ugh
11:20 < jumi> no idea how to do that
11:21 <+ihre> me neither :D
11:24 < jumi> hahahaha
11:24 < jumi> I have to prepare an offer to move all of a customer's systems to the cloud
11:24 < jumi> and I have a trillion things to do beforehand
11:32 <+ihre> im still glad i dont have to deal with sales/offers at all :d
11:33 < jumi> well, I'd much rather deal with me doing the sales than having to deal with an idiot salesman selling impossible things
11:36 <+ihre> well that as easy, subtarget: make ${ARGS} and then make subtarget ARGS="foo" executes the foo target
11:37 <+ihre> jumi: haha that makes sense though, hated it when I worked at an MSP, sales would sell stuff we didnt offer, but because they had a sale, it had to be built from scratch anyway ;p
11:39 <+ihre> hurr durr "i'm not calling back that client to tell him what i just him you isnt actually possible, figure it out"
11:39 <+ihre> just sold him*
11:40 < FenJai> Do you need drivers to install windows 7 to a SSD ? I thought that was the case but I cant find drivers in an easy to inject format
11:40 <+ihre> i cant remember ever having to install drivers for an SSD on windows
11:40 <+ihre> eh, windows 7
11:41 < FenJai> Yeah I thought the asme but I cant see the SSD during OS install
11:42 <+ihre> what type of ssd is it?
11:46 < jumi> ihre: exactly
11:46 < jumi> this is not gonna be hard tho, I got their current landscape, I just need to ask how much would it be for the same landscape and maybe a 25% extra processing power
11:46 < jumi> and then add our consulting fees on top
11:47 < jumi> check that with my boss and we're good to go
11:59 < FenJai> Its a samsung evo 850 1tb. The drivers come in a binary
12:02 < donut_> windows 7 installs to ssd just fine
12:02 < donut_> not as fast as it could though
12:02 < FenJai> Oh ? Is there something funky I need to enable in the bios ?
12:03 < donut_> ah so you are saying it doesnt work?
12:03 < FenJai> Hold on, let me grab the machine
12:04 < donut_> guessing you might have a bit too old install image
12:04 < donut_> if that's the case. Never had problems myself
12:05 < FenJai> Does SP1 need to be slipstreamed into the image ?
12:25 < JFDkthx> good morning
12:25 < JFDkthx> also
12:25 < JFDkthx> FUCK 0630 meetings
12:25 < JFDkthx> i will say that everytime i have to go to this thing
12:26 < JFDkthx> FenJai: ihre i never had to for a plain ol ssd
12:26 < JFDkthx> i also had an 850
12:29 < FenJai> Im just remaking my boot image now. Going to try with SP1 and see if that fixes it
12:29 < JFDkthx> i jcould imagine that doing it
12:29 < JFDkthx> 7 is p old.
12:30 < FenJai> Yeah, we're going to be moving to 10 soon. I'm insisting on enterprise licenses though so I dont ahve to deal with all the xbox crap installed
12:36 < FenJai> In unrelated news, my pebble watch has gotten a new lease of life every since a set of community devs took over
12:51 < FenJai> Hmmm. Even with SP1, windows 7 doesnt detect the drive. Which is odd because the underlying OS is also windows 7 and boots (relatively) fine
12:53 < JFDkthx> mother fucker
12:53 < JFDkthx> no one showed up to the meeting
12:54 < JFDkthx> not even a fucking cancellation email
12:54 < jumi> thank god the EU did not approve the art13
12:56 < cromulon> w00t
12:56 < cromulon> till they they again
12:56 < cromulon> try*
12:56 < jumi> yup
12:56 < jumi> september
13:06 < MikeSeth> shit isnt going to break if I move a couple of domain member workstations into a different routed subnet, will it
13:15 < Katnip> https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/nation/2018/07/04/teen-survives-after-crashing-into-sinkhole/36619993/
13:15 <+layer-eight> * Katnip →  Teen survives after crashing into sinkhole
14:12 < asimon> Good morning friends
14:13 <@cryptic1> morning
14:18 < ekaj> herro
14:18 < onenerdyguy> mornin
14:22 < onenerdyguy> so who else in the UZS is hoping the place is a ghost town today, if htey have to come in?
14:23 <+giant_it_burrit> uzs?
14:23 <+giant_it_burrit> usa
14:24 < onenerdyguy> bah. US. how the hell did I even mispell that bad
14:24 < onenerdyguy> i blame lack of sleep due to dog freaking out on fireworks
14:24 < MikeSeth> dog people problems
14:27 < donut_> my dog doesn't care about nearby fireworks at all, but thunderstorms are end of the world for her.
14:27 < onenerdyguy> we sadly had both, t-storm on tuesday, thunderstorms last night
14:28 < donut_> kinda sad since i love good thunderstorms
14:29 < MikeSeth> pfff
14:29 < MikeSeth> my cats are like
14:29 < MikeSeth> "thunderstorm? time to go to the balcony and lick the delicious wet wall"
14:31 <@cryptic1> i did not see the comment about cats
14:31 <@cryptic1> thought maybe something was wrong with MikeSeth at first
14:36 < MikeSeth> to be sure
14:43 < donut_> well, men my wife was pregnant she had the strongest urges to eat plastered walls.
14:45 < ekaj> mine had an urge to eat stairs
14:48 < asimon> Maybe I shouldn't have a baby
14:49 < Anaphylaxis> O.o
14:49 <@cryptic1> O_o
14:49 < Anaphylaxis> o_O
14:49 <@cryptic1> <_<
14:49 <@cryptic1> >_>
14:49 <@cryptic1> :O
14:50 < Anaphylaxis> :D
14:50 <@cryptic1> :P
14:50 < Anaphylaxis> O)_(O
14:50 < asimon> Alright back to work you two
14:51 <@cryptic1> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
14:51 < Anaphylaxis> ok :(
14:52 <@cryptic1> D:
14:52 < Anaphylaxis> D;
14:52 < asimon> I'm sorry I didn't mean it
14:52 < Anaphylaxis> YOU'RE NOT MY REAL BOSS!
14:52 < asimon> It's just been a rough week
14:55 < ekaj> I'm looking through our IP address wiki, one of them in our DMZ says "inexplicably demonic and unusable IP"
14:55 < cromulon> baby trump is fly! https://news.sky.com/story/trump-angry-baby-blimp-gets-green-light-to-fly-over-london-during-presidents-visit-11426665
14:55 <+layer-eight> * cromulon →  Trump 'angry baby' blimp gets green light to fly over London during president's visit
14:56 < MikeSeth> I had a retard ISP try and use the broadcast address of the allocation as their gateway IP..
14:56 < Anaphylaxis> I wonder if he'll laugh it off, or if he'll get snipers to "accidentally" shoot it or something @cromulon
14:56 < MikeSeth> The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required: rsync
14:56 < MikeSeth> go home debian you're drunk
14:59 < cromulon> originally they stated they would be handing out 1000 baby trump helium balloons to people
15:17 < JollyRgrs> you guys suck
15:17 < JollyRgrs> so boring
15:17 < JollyRgrs> i'm bored at work, so ppl need to talk (#nopolitics)
15:18 < abakedapplepie> morning sunshine
15:18 < JollyRgrs> hey sweety-abakedapple-pie
15:18 < JollyRgrs> what's cookin good looking? oh... you! hahahaha
15:18 < JollyRgrs> now i'm hungry
15:18 < abakedapplepie> hah
15:18 <+giant_it_burrit> HAI JOLLYRGRS
15:19  * JollyRgrs turns giant_it_burrit's volume down to 10%
15:19 < JollyRgrs> hi giant_it_burrit
15:19 < ny0x> hello
15:21  * MikeSeth wipes 3Tb of stale incrementals
15:21 <+giant_it_burrit> siem:what do
15:22 < JollyRgrs> hi ny0x
15:22 < MikeSeth> protip: if you use OPAL on samsung SSDs, don't peel off the serial number stickers
15:25 < JFDkthx> cryptic1: stop spamming
15:26 < JFDkthx> JollyRgrs: 1% is better
15:30 <+TuxedoJack> Kittens make everything better/.
15:33 < sideup66> Glad I learned how to recall messages in outlook
15:34 <+giant_it_burrit> doesnt work if they arent in your org
15:35 < mcj> Ahh.... Good morning all!
15:35 < mcj> I love waking up on a Monday an it's Thursday
15:37 < MikeSeth> mcj: that means 'burnout'
15:38 < corn266> mornin
15:38 < onenerdyguy> went from a 'gonna be a slow 2 days' to 'oh god do it all right now nright now
15:38 < ebol4> good FREAKEN MORNING people
15:38 < abakedapplepie> ugh thats not a good sign, erp support forgot who i was apparently
15:38 < abakedapplepie> "who do you work for again?"
15:38 < abakedapplepie> smh
15:38 < JollyRgrs> ebol4: pls don't cough around here
15:39 < ebol4> don't touch my fluids
15:41 < abakedapplepie> dont touch that dial
15:41  * estranger turns off the picture box
15:42 < MikeSeth> abakedapplepie: it's better than just sending an email from a random address and having zero identity checks apply
15:42  * estranger plays his favorite tune on the Victrola 
15:42 < MikeSeth> i bought a vps once and the support emailed me the root password for someone else's box
15:42 < MikeSeth> I don't even
15:43 < donut_> happens all the time in copy&paste jobs
15:43 < ebol4> you'd think they'd just have a script that sends that email
15:43 < donut_> especially for folks who dont have the habit of clearing their clipboard all the time
15:43 < estranger> emailing root passwords at all... having root passwords at all... so much fail
15:44 < MadCamel> it's sad that the hosting companies are still using passwords for that..
15:44 < donut_> probably they do, but for support cases often not
15:44 < estranger> MadCamel, +1
15:44 < estranger> that is crazytalk anymore imo
15:44 < darkscrypt> FUCK.
15:45 < darkscrypt> i just caused an outage.
15:45 < donut_> oops
15:45 < estranger> there goes your SLA bonus
15:45 < darkscrypt> 44 servers killed.
15:45 < estranger> lol
15:45 < estranger> id call that a good start
15:45 < darkscrypt> rip
15:45 < estranger> darkscrypt, is this an RTE?
15:45 < estranger> er
15:45 < estranger> darkscrypt, RGE
15:45 < MadCamel> it is. First thing I do on any machine is setup key auth for root, remove sudo and the suid bit on all binaries.
15:45 < darkscrypt> RGE?
15:46 < estranger> Resume Generating Event
15:46 < MikeSeth> what are you doing on IRC then you degenerate
15:46 < estranger> MikeSeth, shit is already fucked might as well chat
15:46 < darkscrypt> oh no.
15:46 < darkscrypt> def not an rge lol
15:46 < estranger> what happened?
15:46 < darkscrypt> issue is already resolved.
15:47 < darkscrypt> this happened about an hour ago :) now i get to gripe about it
15:47 < estranger> who was it here that had cascading PSODs on their entier vmware cluster.. linuxdood maybe?
15:49 <+giant_it_burrit> darkscrypt: what did you do
15:49 < donut_> those are fun events, like when electrical substation catches fire or electrician fucks up and blows up 500 PSUs
15:50 < JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXeIxtI--uc
15:50 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  YouTube → Stars & Stripes FOREVER! | Muppet Music Video | The Muppets → ⚘ 2,939,427 ↑ 8,274 ↓ 579 ✍ 879
15:51 < donut_> first one would've been kinda manageable except none of the servers lost power, but AC did.
15:51 < JollyRgrs> the borks and bomms did me in
15:52 < JollyRgrs> this is gold, how have i not seen this before
15:55 < JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KtIBPwaRkk
15:55 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  YouTube → Food Fight! (Extended Version) | with The Swedish Chef | Muppisode | The Muppets → ⚘ 3,411,190 ↑ 21,166 ↓ 1,032 ✍ 1,310
15:55 < JollyRgrs> i forgot how funny the muppets can be
15:56 < ouemt> anyone know how to keep windows from self assigning a 169.254.x.x address when using a manually set static ip?
15:56 < JollyRgrs> wait what?
15:56 < JollyRgrs> if using manual static set IP... you should be getting that static IP...
15:56 < ouemt> I am, and then I also get a 169.254.x.x address
15:56 < corn266> "Muppicide"
15:56 < ouemt> happens when I use the gui and powershell
15:57 < JollyRgrs> ouemt: two IPs on the same adapter?
15:57 < ouemt> JollyRgrs: yep
15:57 < JollyRgrs> you sure?
15:57 < ouemt> I then delete the 169 address but some programs still see it
15:57 < ouemt> Pretty damn sure
15:57 < JollyRoger`> Yo-ho me hearties!
15:57 < JollyRgrs> ouemt: sorry, it's my 2nd monday and i'm not following
15:58 < estranger> darkscrypt, SO WHAT HAPPENED
15:58 < ebol4> ouemt: is it causing problems?
15:58 < ouemt> https://pastebin.com/BtC9Feky
15:58 <+layer-eight> * ouemt →  IPAddress         : 192.168.0.2  InterfaceIndex    : 7  InterfaceAlias    : Ethe - Pastebin.com
15:58 < ouemt> ebol4: yeah, I've got a dumb network switch management program that only scans the first ip range it gets from the OS for available switches
15:59 < ouemt> I'm trying to setup a new switch, which self assigns a 192.168.0.1/24 IP
15:59 < ouemt> and the software will only scan 169.254.x.x
15:59 < ouemt> it happily scans 10.0.1.0/22 if I'm on a DHCP assigned address tho
16:01 < ebol4> i think you only get 169.xx addresses auto assigned when DHCP fails, not sure why it's happening with a static address
16:01 < ouemt> ebol4: is there a seperate setting to turn off the dhcp client?
16:01 < genr8_> bad config
16:01 < ouemt> I haven't seen one, but..?
16:02 < JollyRgrs> ouemt: yeah, try deleting/re-adding the adapter maybe?
16:02 < genr8_> its your TCPIP settings. you're gonna want to delete the interface and start fresh
16:02 < JollyRgrs> if not, disable dhcp service
16:02 < JollyRgrs> see if that helps any
16:02 < genr8_> theyre too complicated to debug otherwise
16:03 < genr8_> brains telling me to go Look in HKLM\services\tcpip\linkages
16:03 < ouemt> oh wait
16:03 < ouemt> hold on
16:03 < ouemt> dumb question
16:03 < genr8_> HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters
16:03 < ouemt> there's a dumb switch between me and the switch in question handling a bunch of 10.0.x.x traffic, should that be happy handling 192.168.x.x traffic as well?
16:04 < ouemt> very new to non-plug and play networking
16:04 < genr8_> ofc. switches arent that layer
16:04 < ouemt> apparently this one is :P lol
16:04 < ouemt> i jest
16:04 < ouemt> k
16:04 < genr8_> well a managed one could be Layer 3
16:04 < genr8_> but dumb ones are Layer 2
16:04 < ouemt> then I dunno, lemme pull up the registry
16:04 < ouemt> genr8_: it's a TL-SG105E, so I doubt it
16:05 < genr8_> oh that.
16:05 < ouemt> especially since it's an unmanaged smart switch with a management interface
16:05 < ouemt> ^^???????
16:05 < genr8_> right
16:05 < genr8_> yeah who knows
16:06 < ouemt> see, I got a linux laptop to pull a webpage from it, but it's blank
16:06 < genr8_> anyway the switches are gonna be routing the MAC Address or the VLAN, not the IP
16:06 < ouemt> no vlans, but I follow
16:06 < genr8_> shouldnt be an issue. you're just floundering
16:06 < alazare619> pretty sure i had a heat stroke yesterday
16:07 < createchange> Hello everyone. I previously ran into this problem, but the previous solution is no longer working for. I have installed Outlook 2016 standalone click to run on 10 new computers, connecting to an on-premise Exchange server. Despite Outlook autodiscovering the account correctly, and being able to send/receive email fine, I am continually prompted fo
16:07 < createchange> r a password. Previous research showed that it was querying O365 servers first, so adding a new registry key of "ExcludeExplicitO365Endpoint" was enough to solve the problem. However, this does not seem to be doing the trick anymore. Any ideas?
16:07 < dragonfleas> Just got back from vacation
16:07 < dragonfleas> jesus that was a busy vacay
16:07 < createchange> I have also added outlook.office.com to my hosts file, with it pointed at localhost, as I saw in another suggestion, which also has not solved the problem
16:08 < dragonfleas> Is it a smart idea to add user-client blocking to Exchange on-prem?
16:08 < dragonfleas> as a security measure?
16:09 < dragonfleas> I mean it doesn't exist in our org, so it almost seems irrelevant, but it may provide some additional backbone
16:10 < dragonfleas> Can anyone tell me what the fuck this means?
16:10 < dragonfleas> "WINE3perDVC UpgrdSAPk OLP NL Dntns Qlfd"
16:10 < dragonfleas> What the hell language is that
16:11 <+TuxedoJack> createchange: how are you activating?
16:11 < darkscrypt> okay i'm back
16:11 <+TuxedoJack> MAK or KMS?
16:11 < dragonfleas> Nevermind
16:11 < genr8_> ouemt: try "netsh interface ipv4 show config" or go into the netsh tool and investigate the settings in the different modules
16:12 < createchange> @Tuxe
16:12 < dragonfleas> I figured it out, it was not displaying correctly, so I figured out it's some of our windows 10 ent licenses
16:12 <+TuxedoJack> I see someone's used to Slack.
16:12 < createchange> @TuxedoJack - MAK, through the Office Configuration Tool
16:12 < darkscrypt> alright, for the guys who want to know what happened and how I just caused an outage on 40 servers. I'm a citrix administrator. I was helping to retire one of our old frames (kinda like a PRE ucs type chassis that we have had a lot of issues with)
16:12 < createchange> Never used slack haha, just used to enter letting me select the autosuggestion
16:13 < darkscrypt> I had built a list of 200 servers, and shut them all down. I turn this over to the team and say hey, the following 19 blades have been freed up. There should be no running machines on them
16:13 <+TuxedoJack> Do you have any add-ins running (e.g. Sharepoint addins, Outlook Social bullshit, et cetera)?
16:13 < createchange> It's a silent install, and I have verified that they are indeed activated
16:13 < createchange> No add-ins
16:13 < darkscrypt> well, I sent the correct blades over, but i told them the wrong Frame names, so they started shutting down blades on the wrong frames
16:13 < darkscrypt> so i'm kinda responsible, but they should also have thought to stop when they saw machines were still powered on
16:14 < ouemt> genr8_: mk, it's on this computer so be back after I try some stuff out
16:14 < darkscrypt> 44 servers shutdown each with an average of 12 users on them (we are at low utilization right now. very few people working comparatively)
16:14 <+TuxedoJack> createchange: got logs?
16:15 < createchange> Where could I pull those from?
16:15 < createchange>  /var/log/Outlook? :)
16:15 < darkscrypt> createchange: lol.
16:15 < darkscrypt> its /var/log/offic14/outlook
16:16 < voice> everyone knows they dump to /dev/null
16:16 < darkscrypt> my last name is null and my first name is devon
16:16 < darkscrypt> kind of interesting
16:17 < dragonfleas> Slack VS Skype for Business, why is slack better?
16:17 < JollyRgrs> darkscrypt: at least you didn't reimage the entire campus :P
16:17 < MikeSeth> dragonfleas: skype is absolute nightmare to manage
16:17 < dragonfleas> O365 skype?
16:18 < createchange> we have had nothing but problems with Skype for Business
16:18 < dragonfleas> Seems pretty fucking easy to me
16:18 < ebol4> because skype for business is shit
16:18 < ouemt> genr8_: ok, I'm not crazy, it is doing something funky
16:18 < ouemt> https://pastebin.com/sm5xUkpy
16:18 <+layer-eight> * ouemt →  PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> netsh interface ipv4 show config    Configuration for in - Pastebin.com
16:18 < darkscrypt> JollyRgrs: no no no
16:18 < ouemt> those two commands were run about 5 seconds apart
16:18 < dragonfleas> Are you guys referring to on-prem?
16:18 < darkscrypt> JollyRgrs:  i don't actually touch sccm here anyways. I thought I was going to and I may eventually.
16:18 < MikeSeth> your normal skype is shit too
16:18 < ouemt> the network interface gui insists that there is only one IP associated with that interface
16:18 < MikeSeth> i'm looking for political solutions to get rid of it forever
16:18 < dragonfleas> I hate normal skype
16:18 < ouemt> and it's 192.168.0.2
16:18 < genr8_> ouemt: IP Collision on 192.168.0.1 maybe ?
16:18 < darkscrypt> createchange: hey man. when I did s4b, it was shit too.
16:19 < darkscrypt> createchange: are you using s4b on prem or in o365
16:19 < dragonfleas> but Skype for Business doesn't seem to bad, plus it's just Lync rebranded lol
16:19 < ouemt> genr8_: the gateway?
16:19 < genr8_> sorry, not enough info to continue helping
16:19 < darkscrypt> s4b is missing a lot of stuff.
16:19 < darkscrypt> if microsoft would just give it some love, it could be great
16:19 < dragonfleas> you're right darkscrypt, let's just go back to office communicator
16:19 < genr8_> was fun while it lasted but now its just annoying. You got a misconfiguration on your hands and its your own doing :)
16:19 < createchange> @darkscrypt O365. It doesn't seem to play well with normal Skype, which most of our users are on.
16:19 < darkscrypt> createchange: you mean where you add normal skype users to it?
16:20 < createchange> yes
16:20 < darkscrypt> createchange: as a contact, or do you mean normal skype running side by side
16:20 < dragonfleas> wtf never heard of that createchange
16:20 < ouemt> genr8_: it's a simple 2 node network, I'll I'm changing from DHCP settings is the IP and netmask, why wouldn't that work?
16:20 < dragonfleas> that sounds annoying
16:20 < darkscrypt> createchange: yeah, i've seen issues with that too. we ran it on prem and it was a pitb to get working right
16:20 < ouemt> All I'm changing*
16:20 < dragonfleas> I like s4b o365
16:20 < genr8_> cause you're using this page to decide your fate: and its wrong. https://youtu.be/X1H13rZll7c?t=217
16:20 < dragonfleas> plus it's a free chat and video conferencing tool for us since we're 501c3
16:20 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  ⚓  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1H13rZll7c&feature=youtu.be&t=217 → YouTube → Unboxing TL-SG105E Gigabit Easy Smart Switch + Programm | Deutsch | Butcher Crew | Dominik → ⚘ 4,626 ↑ 9 ↓ 11 ✍ 1
16:20 < darkscrypt> s4b o365 isn't bad. but we were trying to do stuff like call trees, lync conference rooms, room panels, screen sharing
16:21 < createchange> @tuxedojack Pastebins incoming, including all logs in the folder: https://pastebin.com/N2LpAs2V, https://pastebin.com/N2LpAs2V, https://pastebin.com/gsNXwt3j
16:21 <+layer-eight> * createchange →  *** Starting First Run (07-03-2018 17:15:09) ***  ...HrPreSplashFirstRun called. - Pastebin.com
16:21 <+layer-eight> * createchange →  Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00    [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Of - Pastebin.com
16:21 < dragonfleas> QUIT PUTTING LINKS
16:21 < dragonfleas> or someone mute layer-eight
16:21 < darkscrypt> i dunno if you guys have ever tried to use s4b like it's a gotomeeting, but it often glitches
16:21 < dragonfleas> darkscrypt, honestly, it's worked flawlessly for us
16:21 < dragonfleas> but we've only been on it for about a month and a half
16:21 < darkscrypt> like, i've seen it at multiple orgs, with newest versions of s4b, sharing screens will just flop
16:21 < darkscrypt> it works fine for a bit... but the application crashes, gotta exit out of the client and start again
16:21 < dragonfleas> we're running s4b 2015 i thin
16:21 < dragonfleas> think
16:21 < ouemt> even ignoring the switch for now, why is windows insisiting on assigning itself the 169.254 ip over the manual settings?
16:21 < dragonfleas> we don't have the newest client
16:22 < darkscrypt> i saw it on 2015 and the newest.
16:22 < dragonfleas> hmmmm
16:22 < dragonfleas> never had that issue, maybe OS compat, you on windows 7?
16:22 < genr8_> cause it detected your network was bunk
16:22 < genr8_> and invalid
16:22 < darkscrypt> all i'm saying is i like s4b and the idea behind it but they haven't tested it well enough, and given the product enough attention
16:22 < darkscrypt> and now they are killing it completely
16:22 < genr8_> start with this page: TL-SG105E IP config: https://puu.sh/ARkRb/11e338aeda.png screenshot that
16:22 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 173,319 bytes
16:22 < darkscrypt> this was all win10
16:23 < ouemt> genr8_: I can't even get that far, I'm still trying to connect to the switch
16:23 < createchange> I like the interface. At least compared to ad-infested normal Skype
16:23 < ouemt> that's the problem
16:23 < createchange> We are switching to Cisco Jabber
16:23 < genr8_> ouemt: disconnect it the bunk segment of your network
16:23 < genr8_> configure it by itself
16:23 < darkscrypt> createchange: yeah. jabber i've heard good things on
16:23 < genr8_> then attach it.
16:23 < darkscrypt> createchange:  we used s4b on prem and used it to replace our phone system. we got avaya phones that were lync enabled.
16:23 < ouemt> that's what I'm trying to do, and windows won't let me assign an IP on the same subnet that the switch is on by default
16:23 < genr8_> Its probably got an IP Conflict
16:23 < ouemt> well, it will
16:23 < dragonfleas> darkscrypt, yeah, you can guarantee microsoft won't be giving it any extra QA anytime soon because they never have dating all the way back to office communicator
16:24 < darkscrypt> also, another problem with S4b, is searching online for help is difficult because it gets conflated with normal skype
16:24 < ouemt> but then it switches the ip to 169.254 after a few seconds
16:24 < genr8_> you should just use a linux laptop and not confuse your windows box
16:24 < genr8_> cause its clearly bunk too
16:24 < createchange> very true on that troubleshooting point. I have found that frustrating
16:24 < darkscrypt> dragonfleas: you know they officially discontinued it right?
16:24 < ouemt> genr8_: I'd love to, but their software only runs on windows
16:24 < JollyRgrs> windows DGAF what is out there if you set IP manually/static
16:24 < darkscrypt> dragonfleas: they gave it an actual end of life. permanently
16:24 < genr8_> k im done
16:24 < genr8_> bye
16:24 < JollyRgrs> does't matter what subnet the switch is on or nothing
16:25 < ouemt> JollyRgrs: the problem is, I set the ip and subnet manually, windows changes it after a few seconds
16:25 < dragonfleas> darkscrypt, wait really? when?
16:25 < createchange> darkscrypt link to discontinuation?
16:25 < genr8_> got this man goin into deep dark TCPIP configs when he cant even set a proper IP address and connect to a switch
16:25 < dragonfleas> link pls?
16:25 < darkscrypt> one second
16:25 < JollyRgrs> i wonder what ouemt means or how you pronounce it
16:25 < ouemt> genr8_: come on man, why do you think I'm here asking for help... I'm a linux guy and I don't understand why windows is doing this
16:25 < darkscrypt> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoftteams/faq-journey
16:25 <+layer-eight> * darkscrypt →  FAQ - Journey from Skype for Business to Microsoft Teams | Microsoft Docs
16:25 < genr8_> windows is bunk. next question
16:25 < ouemt> JollyRgrs: I spell it out o-u-e-m-t
16:26 < darkscrypt> dragonfleas: createchange  https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoftteams/faq-journey
16:26 <+layer-eight> * darkscrypt →  FAQ - Journey from Skype for Business to Microsoft Teams | Microsoft Docs
16:26 < JollyRgrs> oregon university EMT?
16:26 < genr8_> For the record, I have a similar setup and no issues
16:26 < ouemt> my undergrad was at the University of Oklahoma (OU), and I used to be an EMT
16:26 < ouemt> so close
16:26 < JollyRgrs> lol
16:26 < xtensive> good guess JollyRgrs
16:26 < createchange> so its not dead, just rolling it up into Teams
16:26 < hxcsp> 5 letter name club
16:26 < genr8_> Windows DOES support multiple IP aliases, if they're valid. If they are invalid, theres an IP conflict detected, it will auto-default to 169
16:26 < darkscrypt> createchange: dragonfleas https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-is-discontinuing-skype-for-business-teams-and-yammer-for-windows-phone
16:26  * JollyRgrs is leet doxxer
16:26 <+layer-eight> * darkscrypt →  Microsoft is discontinuing Skype for Business, Teams, and Yammer for Windows Phone - Neowin
16:27 < hxcsp> questionably pronounced 5 letter name club
16:27 < hxcsp> there we go
16:27 < darkscrypt> createchange:i mean if you look at teams, its a completely different think
16:27 < xtensive> so tell us about yours hxcsp
16:27 < createchange> That one is re: Windows phones, not the software in general - or did I misread that?
16:27 < createchange> It is definitely completely different - any news is good news to me. My boss has me trying to switch people the S4B and its been a headache
16:27 < hxcsp> hxc stands for hardcore, sp is my initials
16:27 < dragonfleas> "Skype for Business remains as the product name for the on-premises server. The Skype for Business brand will also surface in voice and video experiences within Teams."
16:27 < ouemt> genr8_: so the part I don't understand is that if I'm not using DHCP, I'm maunally setting the ip and subnet, and the only other device on the network on that subnet is on a different IP, what could I be screwing up?
16:27 < darkscrypt> yeah wrong link
16:27 < hxcsp> so pretty lame
16:27 < dragonfleas> That doens't sound like a discontinuation to me
16:27 < ouemt> like, I get what you're saying, but I don't understand where the problem could be
16:28 < genr8_> ouemt: the part you failed to notice is in your pastebin, no IP's were listed on the first runthrough. So it failed
16:28 < darkscrypt> dragonfleas:  I meant thishttps://www.theverge.com/2017/9/25/16360072/microsoft-teams-replacing-skype-for-business
16:28 < createchange> Ok - I have to run - need to figure out this Outlook login issue. ouemt: stick with linux, I sold my soul for my first IT job a few months ago and here I am constantly troubleshooting stupid shit
16:29 < ouemt> genr8_: Get-NetIPAddress shows it
16:29 < dragonfleas> I like teams, I'm down to use it
16:29 < genr8_> somethings wrong with that computer though
16:29 < darkscrypt> dragonfleas: yeah, hopefully it's good. but i think it might be a webclient only kind of deal
16:29 < ouemt> createchange: good luck, unfortunately this foray into Windows is due to shitty hardware
16:29 < genr8_> stop doing networking on a broken windows
16:29 < dragonfleas> dissolving s4b into a teams/s4b amalgamation sounds cool
16:29 < dragonfleas> darkscrypt, let's expect a dedicated client, and be disappointed when it's web only
16:29 < ouemt> genr8_: I'm talking to you on that box right now
16:29 <+A-KO> ReFS is so good
16:29 < genr8_> ouemt: thats the problem
16:30 < genr8_> you're trying to operate two networks at once
16:30 < darkscrypt> dragonfleas: i'm hopeful it will be good.
16:30 < genr8_> just get the switch working on its own
16:30 < genr8_> attach it to your network once it knows its IP
16:30 < genr8_> and youre good
16:30 < darkscrypt> dragonfleas: i agree with you. it's a good idea, but i guess it's just upsetting they have been so all over the board with communicator/lync/s4b/teams
16:30 < JollyRgrs> genr8_: i do that all the time
16:30 < genr8_> Reset the Switch to its default So it shows up on an IP address of 192.168.0.2
16:30 < ouemt> genr8_: I'm not doing 2 at the same time
16:30 < JollyRgrs> laptop has wireless on real network, manual IP on LAN NIC for configuring switch
16:31 < darkscrypt> I'm really going to miss yammer.
16:31 < darkscrypt> I mean.. everybody just loved yammer.
16:31 < JollyRgrs> darkscrypt: you use it?
16:31 < JollyRgrs> lol
16:31 < JollyRgrs> we do :(
16:31 < darkscrypt> JollyRgrs: no.
16:31 < ouemt> genr8_: wait wait wait, why do you think the switch will be on .2?
16:31 < JollyRgrs> well, my company does
16:31 < darkscrypt> JollyRgrs: do you really?
16:31 < JollyRgrs> i don't really touch it unless linked to it
16:31 < darkscrypt> JollyRgrs: what do you think of it? honestly?
16:31 < genr8_> The switch always defaults to .2 when its on a DHCP lan with .1
16:31 < ouemt> their docs say that it should be on .1
16:31 < JollyRgrs> it's like a facebook-esque thing for companies
16:31 < JollyRgrs> that's how i view it
16:31 < ouemt> I've been trying to assign .2 to my computer
16:31 < genr8_> Not when .1 exists
16:31 < genr8_> otherwise theres a conflict
16:31 < genr8_> .2 is the switch lol
16:31 < darkscrypt> JollyRgrs: i thought it was like a twitter
16:31 < genr8_> thats why thers a conflict
16:32 < JollyRgrs> darkscrypt: well, you post announcements, but then you can have conversation in the comments
16:32 < JollyRgrs> that's more like FB than twitter, imo
16:32 < genr8_> .1 is totally your router, .2 is totally your switch and .anything-else couldbe your computer
16:32 < JollyRgrs> also there are "groups"
16:32 < darkscrypt> JollyRgrs: does it allow you to argue politics?
16:32 < JollyRgrs> ... just like fb
16:32 < darkscrypt> JollyRgrs: i don't think its facebook unless you have a lot of relatives posting intentionally inflaming political discourse
16:32 < JollyRgrs> darkscrypt: i dunno, but i doubt ppl in sweden care about us politics when it comes to arguing on a company forum
16:33 < JollyRgrs> darkscrypt: i's FBfB
16:33 < darkscrypt> JollyRgrs: ohhh yeah probably not. sweeds are cool like that
16:33 < ouemt> genr8_: I don't use this subnet at all
16:33 < ouemt> but it's scanning now
16:33 < ouemt> still doesn't find it, but now I doubt windows is the problem
16:34 < ouemt> it took the .3
16:34 < genr8_> so ping .2
16:34 < ouemt> see, I trusted their docs: "If the switch cannot receive an IP address from a DHCP server, it uses the static IP address of 192.168.0.1, with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0."
16:35 < genr8_> You should literally be able to plug this switch into your normal computer @ 192.168.0.? and Router @ 192.168.0.1 and it should literally auto-find
16:35 < ouemt> genr8_: my router is not assigning it an IP
16:35 < genr8_> DHCP was probably disabled on it
16:35 < ouemt> if it was, it would be on 10.0.0.1/22
16:35 < genr8_> So you have no way of knowing what IP its on, without this stupid windows util ?
16:36 < ouemt> genr8_: other than what the docs say, no
16:36 < genr8_> thats the first mistake
16:36 < ouemt> and the docs say it should be on 192.168.0.1
16:36 < ouemt> how is that my fault?! lol
16:37 < abakedapplepie> sounds like it has a static set
16:37 < genr8_> How come when you showed me your Powershell IP config there were no 10.0.0.x's in it
16:37 < abakedapplepie> can you factory default it
16:37 < abakedapplepie> i have a srw2048 that i have the same problem with
16:37 < abakedapplepie> no idea what the IP is, nor the login creds
16:37 < genr8_> Here follow this forum. looks like a guys equally confused. https://www.snbforums.com/threads/tp-link-smart-switch-questions.34226/
16:37 < ouemt> genr8_: because I had manually changed the IP to be static 192.168.0.2/24
16:37 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  TP-LINK Smart Switch questions... | SmallNetBuilder Forums
16:38 < abakedapplepie> and the console port seems to not be working
16:38 < genr8_> ouemt: how were you still online then
16:38 < genr8_> is what i dont get
16:38 < ouemt> I'm using quassel
16:38 < genr8_> ...
16:38 < genr8_> you said you were IRCing from the box. you change your IP to something else, it would disconnect you
16:38 < ouemt> there's a server in a DC in virginia that is connected to IRC, I connect to that
16:38 < genr8_> mmk
16:38 < ouemt> it's always connected
16:39 < ouemt> kinda like a forwarder?
16:39 < genr8_> so you still have internet on the Windows box even though you changed it to 192.168.0.3
16:39 < ouemt> no
16:39 < genr8_> and thats nonroutable since your router is on 10.0.0.1
16:39 < genr8_> k
16:39 < ouemt> when I switch over, I lose connectivity
16:39 < abakedapplepie> ouemt where did this switch come from
16:39 < genr8_> $20 amazon special
16:39 < ouemt> abakedapplepie: I don't remember, prolly monoprice
16:39 < abakedapplepie> oh so its new
16:39 < JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: just after the alien probing
16:39 < ouemt> yeah, it's a cheap piece of shit
16:39 < abakedapplepie> ok
16:39 < genr8_> It has no WEBGUI
16:39 < ouemt> abakedapplepie: no, it's been working just fine
16:39 < ouemt> for prolly a year
16:40 < genr8_> ouemt: don't you have other computers m8 ?
16:40 < ouemt> I just realized it supposedly had a management interface and am trying to connect to it so I can at least change the default username and password
16:40 < estranger> best thing about WFH is you get your own bathroom
16:40 < ouemt> genr8_: not that run windows
16:40 < ouemt> well... lemme dig in a drawer
16:40 < genr8_> doesnt need to. you just need an IP on the same subnet, to run Nmap
16:40 < genr8_> so you can discover what the heck its actually set up
16:40 < genr8_> instead, factory reset it.
16:41 < ouemt> genr8_: I factory reset it and hooked a linux comp up
16:41 < genr8_> not knowing the IP or subnet of it is killing you
16:41 < ouemt> 192.168.0.1 was serving a blank page on port 80
16:41 < ouemt> no error, but no content
16:41 < JollyRgrs> estranger: bad thing is, you don't have a custodian to clean it for you
16:41 < genr8_> so the idea is that it actually is on .1 then
16:41 < ouemt> right, and I was assigning .2 to my computer
16:41 < estranger> JollyRgrs, got a sexy wife to do that
16:42 < JollyRgrs> estranger: does she scrub the toilet wearing a naughty french maid outfit?
16:42 < ouemt> genr8_: despite current troubles, I'm actually not an idiot
16:42 < JollyRgrs> "oh baby, scrub that skidmark harder!"
16:42 < estranger> JollyRgrs, typically some pretty awesome yoga pants
16:42 < felda> have you guys ever used WoX + Everything?
16:42 < JollyRgrs> "ok google, what is WoX"
16:42 < estranger> WoX on, WoX off
16:43 < genr8_> ouemt: go into network settings and send me this pic: https://puu.sh/ARlm0/08a7ed3617.png
16:43 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 32,064 bytes
16:43 < ouemt> I found an old windows box, one sec, lemme see if it'll boot
16:43 < JollyRgrs> holy cow genr8_
16:43 < genr8_> Network connections. Local Area connection > Properties
16:43 < genr8_> what, i dox myself ?
16:43 < dragonfleas> powershell execution policy is a pita
16:43 < JollyRgrs> /16?
16:43 < genr8_> dont ask
16:43 < estranger> oof
16:44 < JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: google "15 way to get around powershell execution policy"
16:44 < estranger> s/google/bing
16:44 < JFDkthx> estranger: GARBAGE DAY
16:44 <+layer-eight> [SED estranger/JollyRgrs] dragonfleas: bing "15 way to get around powershell execution policy"
16:44 < estranger> OH SHIT IT IS
16:44 < ouemt> genr8_: you want that in the DHCP configuration I'm using normally, or the one when I'm trying to connect to the switch
16:44 < JollyRgrs> genr8_: lol, here he is giving out network advice, and he's on a /16
16:44 < genr8_> basically tired of failing to connect to Routers on 192.168.1.1 when i only had a 0.0/24
16:44 < genr8_> well it was a hack
16:44 < genr8_> and it worked so
16:44 < dragonfleas> >big brain add Set-ExecutionPolicy bypass -Force to every script
16:44 < JFDkthx> in the past 48 hours i have slept for 3
16:44 < JFDkthx> im so fucking tired.
16:45 < JFDkthx> please just let this day end
16:45 <+A-KO> JFDkthx go the fuck to sleep
16:45 < JFDkthx> A-KO: i want to
16:45 < darkscrypt> A-KO: thats a great book
16:45 < JFDkthx> im leaving work in 2 hours
16:45 < JFDkthx> then my weekend starts
16:45 < genr8_> ouemt: either, and say which
16:45 < dragonfleas> ForEach Script in Scripts.split("."){ Set-ExecutionPolicy bypass -Force } or /we
16:45 < genr8_> the problem should materialize
16:45 <+A-KO> powershell execution policies aren't a security boundary, sadly :(
16:45 <+A-KO> it was probably intended as one at the start, but realized it was too difficult to actually enforce.
16:46 < dragonfleas> I can't remember exactly how to do a foreach loop in powershell lol
16:46 < dragonfleas> it's been a minute
16:46 <+A-KO> HOWEVER, it does keep admins honest :P somewhat.
16:46 < JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: wait what?
16:46 <+A-KO> foreach ($blah in $blahlist) { }
16:46 < dragonfleas> yeah lmao
16:46 < JollyRgrs> you can't set the policy INSIDE of a ps1 script
16:46 < dragonfleas> that's right
16:46 < dragonfleas> forgot the variable declaration
16:46 < JollyRgrs> if you can run the script, you're already running it
16:46 < dragonfleas> $var
16:46 <+A-KO> foreach and foreach-item are not the same, either :P
16:46 <+A-KO> which is confusing sometimes
16:46 < dragonfleas> what are the differences?
16:47 < dragonfleas> targeting?
16:47 < JollyRgrs> foreach-object
16:47 <+A-KO> ah yes
16:47 <+A-KO> sorry, no caffeine this am :P
16:47 <+A-KO> foreach-object is for pipelining
16:47 < JollyRgrs> ^^
16:47 <+A-KO> get-aduser -filter * | foreach-object { do-this-shit }
16:47 < dragonfleas> ahhh
16:47 < JollyRgrs> $array |foreach-object {do something with $_}
16:47 <+A-KO> :D
16:47 < dragonfleas> i didn't know you could pipe a command into a for each loop
16:47 < dragonfleas> that's awesome
16:48 <+A-KO> foreach-object is also aliased to %, but don't use % in a script if you're doing it
16:48 <+A-KO> $array | % { do this }
16:48 <+A-KO> like where-object is aliased to ?
16:48 < JollyRgrs> if all you are doing is $P = command, $P |foreach-object... why :P
16:48 < dragonfleas> I need to take those "learn powershell in X lunches" videos
16:48 <+A-KO> lol JollyRgrs
16:48 < JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: i heard that book is good
16:48 < JollyRgrs> i don't read books
16:48 < dragonfleas> there are videos for it too
16:48 < JollyRgrs> i just read internet articles
16:48 < dragonfleas> there's a video version of the learn powershell in x lunches
16:48 < JollyRgrs> but i heard it helped
16:48 < dragonfleas> i don't remember how many lunches
16:49 < JollyRgrs> 30?
16:49 < JollyRgrs> i think
16:49 < dragonfleas> idk lol
16:49 <+A-KO> where-object is also a bit different because the actions on it are on the pipeline, versus foreach-object, actions are within brackets :P
16:49 <+A-KO> $array | ? { $_.property -eq 'whatever' } | do this
16:49 < dragonfleas> I wrote a wake on lan application in visual basic, do you guys wanna see it
16:49 <+A-KO> you could also do $array | ? { $_.property -eq 'whatever' } | % { do-this }
16:50 < JollyRgrs> i've done that many times
16:50 < JollyRgrs> i can concur
16:50 <+A-KO> the biggest problem with pipelining is when you want to reference data earlier in the pipeline :/
16:51 <+A-KO> that's when you have to get wonky with shit
16:51 < JollyRgrs> that's when you just gotta cave in and store as a var
16:51 < genr8_> hot take on ouemt's IP/switch problem. the 20 minutes spent it would take stripping his network down to a test case with 1 computer and 1 switch, is gonna be 3x faster than the HOUR it takes for him to realize that 1 computer was messed up
16:51 <+A-KO> lol JollyRgrs yep
16:51 < JollyRgrs> ..\..\..\$_ doesn't work :P
16:51 < dragonfleas> Welp, I guess I forgot to save the newest revision to my dropbox
16:51 < dragonfleas> fuck
16:52 < dragonfleas> I need to load the project up again in Visual Studio and make some changes
16:52 < dragonfleas> the old revision caused a memory leak that crashed computers lmfao
16:52 < genr8_> visual basic lol
16:52 < genr8_> Powershell leading ppl into VB now ?
16:52 < dragonfleas> I like VB.net
16:52 <+A-KO> meh, vb.net and c#.net compile to the same shit anyway :P
16:52 <+A-KO> so it doesn't REALLY matter
16:52 < genr8_> i started learning Powershell and i learned C# instead
16:52 < dragonfleas> yeah A-KO I used a translator online to utilize some c# source code lmao
16:53 <+A-KO> you can use C# in PowerShell :P
16:53 < dragonfleas> it translates c# to VB
16:53 < dragonfleas> yeah you can also use VB
16:53 < dragonfleas> I used a VB GUI inside of a powershell script
16:53 < dragonfleas> it was a pain in the ass to get the styling right because you have to design it, then export it manually essentially
16:53 < dragonfleas> not fun
16:53 <+A-KO> C# is very different than PowerShell. One area that powershell really abstracts/doesn't do well is 'async' commands. I think runspaces are still a thing in PS6
16:53 <+A-KO> but I know they got rid of workflows
16:53 < darkscrypt>  $array | .{process{ $_}}
16:54 < JollyRgrs> dangit, got a 11:30-12:30 meeting
16:54 < dragonfleas> I can't remember, can you do multi-threaded tasks in powershell?
16:54 < JollyRgrs> shoulda went to lunch 15 min ago
16:54 <+A-KO> dragonfleas: runspaces :P
16:54 < darkscrypt> dragonfleas: use split-pipeline
16:54 <+A-KO> workflows exist in pre-PS6
16:54 <+A-KO> but in PS6 I think they're removed
16:54 < dragonfleas> hmmmm
16:54 < darkscrypt> https://github.com/nightroman/SplitPipeline
16:54 < JFDkthx> https://wccftech.com/nvidia-million-next-gen-geforce-gaming-gpus/
16:54 <+layer-eight> * JFDkthx →  NVIDIA Has Over A Million Next-Gen GeForce GPUs Ready To Ship To Gamers
16:54 <+layer-eight> * darkscrypt →  GitHub → nightroman → SplitPipeline → Parallel Data Processing in PowerShell → @ ~ 2 months ago → PowerShell → ✡ 64 → Forks: 7
16:54 < JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: you can, but depending on what you wanna do, it isn't easy
16:54 < JFDkthx> i'll believe it when i see it
16:55 < JollyRgrs> like if you want all your runspaces to store crap to a shared object
16:55 < darkscrypt> split-pipeline is really easy tbh. i started writing my own stuff. it takes a bit of getting used to, but 30 minutes, it works really well
16:55 < dragonfleas> JollyRgrs, I ported a powershell script into visual basic, added a gui, then made some additional features, and released it as my own application lmao
16:55 < darkscrypt> there are a couple adaptations you have to do in place of %
16:55 < darkscrypt> you can also inline C# into posh
16:55 < alazare619> anyone ever suffer from heatstroke?
16:55 < ouemt> genr8_: https://i.imgur.com/QR988fG.png that's when I'm trying to connect to the switch
16:55 <+layer-eight> * ouemt →  IMGUR Image → Image/png → a few seconds ago → 901x536 → ⚘ 3
16:56 < dragonfleas> what's the differences between visual studio full and visual studio express?
16:56 < alazare619> cant afford to go to dr got my body temp down but damn i feel like shit after 8am to 7pm out in a 108 heat index direct sun yesterday working on this car
16:56 < darkscrypt> dragonfleas: I've never noticed any difference tbh.
16:56 <+A-KO> alazare619: go to the ER
16:56 <+A-KO> seriously
16:56 <+A-KO> don't bet it on your life like that
16:57 <+A-KO> dragonfleas: visual studio community edition :P
16:57 <+A-KO> only real difference I think is TFS integration and licensing
16:57 < darkscrypt> A-KO: tfs integration is in community
16:57 < alazare619> well i'm hydrated and stuff still its just after effects now A-KO i puked a ton last night tho feel alot better now just feel weak af
16:57 <+A-KO> ah
16:57 < alazare619> like even lifting a water bottle is hurting/hard
16:57 <+A-KO> alazare619: go to the hospital
16:57 < darkscrypt> A-KO: i use tfs stuff all the time in my community edition.
16:57 < genr8_> ouemt: and TP's Scan tool doesn't work ? strange
16:58 <+A-KO> alazare619: you shouldn't have pain/etc like that. Something's actually *wrong*
16:58 < darkscrypt> gtg
16:58 <+A-KO> go to the ER
16:58 < ouemt> genr8_: correct, I've got the other laptop working, going to try over there
16:58 <+TuxedoJack> alazare619: seriously, that's not righjt
16:58 <+TuxedoJack> Go to the ER / urgent care
16:58 < genr8_> alazare619: you dun cooked yourself.
16:58 < genr8_> nah fuck that
16:58 < genr8_> they dont do shit besides give you an IV
16:58 <+TuxedoJack> Drink some fucking PediaLyte, too
16:59 < genr8_> + make sure you dont spontaneously die
16:59 <+A-KO> alazare619: let someone know to come on IRC to let us know if you made it or not, FYI
16:59 <+A-KO> seriously
16:59 <+A-KO> heat stroke isn't anything to fuck around with
16:59 < alazare619> genr8_: thats exactly my experience
16:59 < alazare619> then i'm stuck with a 4k dollar bill
16:59 < dragonfleas> I have 700 dollars after all my bills to last the rest of the month, I feel like I'm broke, but my family is telling me that they could all last on 700 dollars for 25 days but Idk how
16:59 < dragonfleas> maybe I need to change my spending habits.
16:59 <+A-KO> if you're having *pain* lifting shit...
17:00 < genr8_> yeah, im not down for that. either the ambulance is takin me and im dyin or i'll be ok
17:00 <+A-KO> genr8_: he veyr well could be and doesn't know it yet
17:00 < genr8_> maybe
17:00 < ouemt> alazare619: make sure you're not just chugging water, you can become hyponatremic
17:00 < asimon> dragonfleas: What are you spending all your money on if you have $700 after all your bills?
17:01 < dragonfleas> asimon, food...lots of...food
17:01 < asimon> Get on that Mint life
17:01 < genr8_> food was my first guess
17:01 < xtensive> pedialyte is great for these situations alazare619
17:01 < genr8_> those damn-near-$20 delivery pizzas add up
17:01 < asimon> $700 is a lot for a month of food
17:01 < ny0x> I spend maybe $100 a week for food
17:01 < dragonfleas> hmmm
17:01 < dragonfleas> maybe I need to start doing meal-prep
17:01 < ouemt> yeah dragonfleas, my wife and I eat on about 100-150/wk
17:02 < dragonfleas> but I don't have a lot of time for mealprep
17:02 < ouemt> yay grad student life!
17:02 < dragonfleas> should I switch to ramen-operational capacity?
17:02 < dragonfleas> ramen-profit
17:02 < ny0x> frozen veggies in steam bags
17:02 < ny0x> and meat
17:02 < ny0x> boiled eggs
17:02 < ny0x> ez
17:03 < ny0x> yogurt
17:03 < alazare619> last night after working out in the sun all day i puked for around an hr tons of blood too but afterwards felt a ton better but damn it was a vicious vomit like i lost my breath
17:03 < dragonfleas> ny0x, i'm allergic to eggs
17:03 < StrongBad> vicious vomit---that's gonna be my next band's name
17:03 < genr8_> jesus
17:03 < alazare619> i might go to the walk in clinic in town after work
17:03 < dragonfleas> eggs make me vomit
17:03 < alazare619> its only 25 bucks unlike the ER
17:03 < genr8_> i puke a lot , considering, but never blood from puking
17:04 < xtensive> JFC alazare619 puking blood no bueno
17:04 < dragonfleas> alazare619, dude if you're vomiting blood you NEED to go to the ER immediately
17:04 <+A-KO> if you puked blood
17:04 <+A-KO> go to the fucking ER
17:04 < ny0x> srsly
17:04 < dragonfleas> go to the fucking emergency room dude, that can be a bad sign
17:04 < genr8_> i think he just irritated his stomach from puking cause he cooked his brain that bad
17:04 < ouemt> alazare619: vomiting blood is an immediate trip to the hospital
17:04 < ouemt> I'm a former EMT
17:04 < dragonfleas> ^
17:04 < alazare619> ugg this bill tho man
17:04 < dragonfleas> well
17:05 < ouemt> alazare619: know how much a funeral costs?
17:05 < GreyKite> alazare619: yeah but at least you aint dead
17:05 < StrongBad> puking blood can just be irritated tubes / overextended muscles from dry heaving
17:05 < alazare619> like ffs i can never get ahead
17:05 < GreyKite> StrongBad: it can also be other things
17:05 < dragonfleas> you won't have to pay the bill if you're dead
17:05 < ouemt> at least go to urgent care
17:05 < alazare619> ouemt: ironically i have a 2 million dollar life insurance policy
17:05 <+A-KO> urgent care might send you t othe hospital
17:05 < ouemt> lol
17:05 < alazare619> so it would actually pay for me to die
17:05 < ouemt> alazare619: how sure are you it was blood?
17:05 < genr8_> convert that into better health insurance lol
17:05 < dragonfleas> go to the hospital
17:05 < GreyKite> alazare619: so make me the primary on that policy then do what you want
17:05 < ouemt> were you drinking red gatoraid?
17:05 < dragonfleas> generally when you vomit blood, it will already have clots in it
17:06 <+A-KO> there are two things I don't fuck with. blood in vomit, blood in stool
17:06 < alazare619> ouemt:  i didnt really eat at all yesterday just drank water as the day went on working on the audi my appetite went away
17:06 < dragonfleas> ^
17:06 < ny0x> or urination pain
17:06 < genr8_> i have blood in stool. its just IBS
17:06 < ouemt> alazare619: since then have you had any food?
17:06 < dragonfleas> I have blood in stool, but it's because I have very severe IBS and it causes fissures in my intestinal wall
17:06 < alazare619> i did have a single burger shortly before puking tho but didnt look like ketchup at all
17:06 < genr8_> it would get way worse if i ate horrible shit
17:06 < dragonfleas> but it's only after I eat like 3 mega greasy burger
17:06 < alazare619> ouemt: some watermellon and a bowl of cereal
17:07 < genr8_> so its like a barometer for my insides
17:07 < dragonfleas> 3 greasy burgers and i'm in the bathroom exploding for 30 minutes
17:07 < ouemt> alazare619: and you kept those down?
17:07 < alazare619> i did have urination pain yesterday but this morning was fine
17:07 < alazare619> ouemt: yea
17:07 < dragonfleas> I started taking this stuff called IBGard and taking magnesium and it helps a lot
17:07 < genr8_> dragonfleas: you ever feel like you lose energy because of it
17:07 < dragonfleas> yeah genr8_
17:07 < dragonfleas> fucking wrecks me
17:07 < genr8_> thats what fucks me up with it
17:07 < dragonfleas> yep
17:07 < dragonfleas> you get dehyrdated that's why
17:07 < alazare619> like overall i feel better then yesterday evening
17:08 < dragonfleas> after you have severe diarrhea you're supposed to drink a lot of fluids
17:08 < ouemt> there's no "good" reason for you to have blood in your vomit, if you did, it could be a serious medical condition
17:08 < dragonfleas> intake electrolytes too
17:08 < alazare619> but like you know the 3-2 flue like basically like that
17:08 < alazare619> i feel borderline like i'm hungover
17:08 < GreyKite> alazare619: did you drink?
17:08 <+A-KO> you really should go to the hospital
17:08 < alazare619> water
17:08 < ouemt> alazare619: if you think you can handle it, eat a bag of salty chips
17:08 < alazare619> and water and water
17:08 < GreyKite> alazare619: yeah, you are mad dehydrated
17:08 < GreyKite> and you shouldn't be
17:08 < dragonfleas> alazare619, go to hospital fucker, get off IRC
17:08 <+A-KO> like, really go to the hospital
17:08 < genr8_> you're gonna need time to rest and recover and hopefully someone to make sure you dont die or drag you to the car when you cant walk
17:08 < alazare619> ouemt: oh i did have some saltines yesterday before the cereal but after vommiting
17:09 < asimon> If you're not gonna go to the hospital then at least get off IRC and get back to work
17:09 < dragonfleas> cryptic1, will you ban alazare so he'll go to the hospital
17:09 < ouemt> alazare619: did that make you feel better? did you drink a lot of water after that?
17:09 < GreyKite> alazare619: or transfer your policy to me and do what you want?
17:09 <+A-KO> alazare619: you can usually negotiate for the hospital bills to be lesser
17:09 <+A-KO> just go to the ER
17:09 < alazare619> ouemt: another 8oz bottle of water and about half a tube? idk what you call them of saltines
17:09 <+A-KO> you should have had way more than just 8oz of water
17:09 < ouemt> alazare619: did you feel much better after eating the saltines?
17:10 < ouemt> or about the same?
17:10 < alazare619> oh i drank 6x 8oz of waters
17:10 < alazare619> or maybe they are 12
17:10 < alazare619> whatever normal 36 cases of water bottles are
17:10 < ouemt> 12 I think
17:10 < dragonfleas> print("Alazare GO TO THE FUCKING HOSPITAL")
17:10 < ouemt> I'd go to urgent care
17:10 < genr8_> nah. that just makes you feel worse. youre better off in bed
17:11 < ouemt> it's unlikely, but possible, that your condition is life threatening, but it is serious
17:11 < genr8_> just dont die
17:11 <+A-KO> what ouemt said
17:11 < dragonfleas> what ouemt said
17:11 < alazare619> i just might overall now i cant tell if its just exhaustion from doing the drive shaft replacement and pulling 2 driveshafts out of a salvage yard or something else
17:11 < ouemt> vomiting blood (hematemesis) is **NOT** to be fucked with
17:11 < genr8_> actually, i was part of a chatroom once where someone did die
17:11 <+A-KO> it's not exhaustion
17:11 < alazare619> yesterday i nearly called the wambulance tho
17:11 <+A-KO> you should actually go
17:11 < dragonfleas> exhaustion doesn't cause you to vomit blood? lmfao
17:12 < alazare619> i'll swing through the urgent care then
17:12 < ouemt> alazare619: from http://ddc.musc.edu/public/symptoms/hematemesis.html
17:12 <+layer-eight> * ouemt →  Hematemesis | Symptoms and Conditions | MUSC DDC
17:12 < JFDkthx> best raid for a 3 disk setup?
17:12 < ouemt> "Hematemesis is considered a medical emergency."
17:12 <+A-KO> JFDkthx: 5? but ugh
17:12 <+A-KO> do what I do, go 5 drives and use 3-way mirrors
17:12 <+A-KO> in storage spaces :D
17:12 < ouemt> JFDkthx: you want performance, or safety?
17:12 < JFDkthx> A-KO: i dont want do a 5 because they are all 4tb drives :(((
17:12 < dragonfleas> see all these niggas running marathons and then vomiting blood? NO YOU DONT
17:12 < dragonfleas> go to ER
17:13 < JFDkthx> A-KO: i would have purchased 5 if it were up to me, but this project only purcahsed 3 for some reason.
17:13 < JFDkthx> i could really fuck them and do a 1 with a hot spare
17:13 < JFDkthx> their space be damned
17:13 < ouemt> JFDkthx: if the goal is redundancy, 5 is really the only option
17:13 < JFDkthx> that will show them for not talking to IT first
17:14 <+A-KO> 1 with hotspare would be faster O.o
17:14 < ouemt> otherwise, stripe them and call it a day
17:14 < alazare619> ouemt: i noticed one of the causes of that is ebol4  lol
17:14 < genr8_> 2 Mirrors + 1 hotspare
17:14 <+A-KO> lol ouemt
17:14 < ouemt> genr8_: but dat rebuild
17:14 < JFDkthx> A-KO: and thats what i was thinking too
17:14 < ouemt> :)
17:14 < genr8_> mirrors are way faster at rebuilding than RAIND5
17:14 < JFDkthx> yeh
17:14 < genr8_> it just blasts it all over
17:15 < JFDkthx> story of my life
17:15 < ouemt> alazare619: and other hemorragic fevers, but seriously, you need to be in front of a doctor yesterday if you were throwing up blood
17:15 < genr8_> and safer than a 3 disk RAID
17:15 < ouemt> JFDkthx: software raid?
17:15 < JFDkthx> hardware raid
17:15 < ouemt> I've started doing everything in software for small setups
17:15 <+A-KO> JFDkthx: https://imgur.com/a/jf9cf8c
17:15 <+A-KO> woooo
17:15 <+layer-eight> * A-KO →  IMGUR Album → a few seconds ago → 1 Image → ⚘ 0
17:16 < JFDkthx> if they had at least purchased the same size drives as what they already had i could have just migrated to a larger 6
17:16 < alazare619> ouemt: alright i'll go dragonfleas  and A-KO but i'm starting a gofundme because the tax rate here is 11% and as of last month i no longer have health insurance...
17:16 < JFDkthx> A-KO: imgur blocked
17:16 < alazare619> thanks obamacare
17:16 < JFDkthx> i work for nazis
17:16 < ouemt> alazare619: you should be able to see a doc at the urgent care for much less than an ER
17:16 < alazare619> ouemt: yea its 25 bucks out of pocket
17:16 < genr8_> they cant see inside you thoug. just give you info or referral
17:16 <+A-KO> alazare619: many hospitals have negotiation for rates. Just go, they're never going to say "don't go just because you can't pay."
17:16 < ouemt> genr8_: depends on the facility
17:17 < dragonfleas> Good
17:17 < ouemt> my local one can do bloodwork
17:17 < dragonfleas> hopefully you aren't dying
17:17 < alazare619> dragonfleas: on a scale of like 1/10 of how i feel 10 being perfect im probably a 6
17:17 < alazare619> yesterday i was like a 1 around 7pm tho
17:17 < alazare619> but after that vommiting i felt a load better
17:18 < xtensive> maybe you have an alien incubating inside of you alazare619
17:18 < alazare619> xtensive: that would be dope
17:18 < alazare619> im sure i could pass him out my buthole
17:18 < alazare619> ive passed some huge logs in my days
17:19 < xtensive> new pet!
17:19 < alazare619> i shall name him fred
17:19 < genr8_> theyve got claws and they cling to your insides - hence the blood
17:19 < fredopasta> alazare619: :D
17:19 < fredopasta> D:
17:20 < alazare619> side note for anyone with an audi
17:20 < alazare619> driveshaft replacmeent on those fuckers is a royal PITA
17:20 < alazare619> oh and my audi snapped the bolts that hold it to the transfercase/transmission
17:21 < alazare619> so i had to tap those fuckers out 1 is still stuck so rocking 5/6 of the bolts atm...
17:21 < alazare619> fucking german cars...never again will i buy one
17:22 < alazare619> https://slickdeals.net/f/11770395-34-dell-alienware-aw3418dw-curved-ips-led-monitor-w-g-sync-950-ac-newegg
17:22 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  34" Dell Alienware AW3418DW Curved IPS LED Monitor w/ G-Sync $950 AC @Newegg       -   Slickdeals.net
17:22  * alazare619 heavy breathing
17:23 < JollyRgrs> only 34"
17:23 < JollyRgrs> ?
17:23 < JollyRgrs> seems a bit small
17:23 < corn266> only the size of a small tv
17:23 < corn266> seems a bit small
17:23 < JollyRgrs> i mean, at that point, go big or go home
17:24 < JollyRgrs> "small" tv
17:24 < JollyRgrs> i remember when our 30" trinitron was HUGE compared to the 26" and 27" models
17:24 < corn266> http://78.media.tumblr.com/1122d1de68386928760472c6ac0b91c7/tumblr_mtaxzgqUG71r7xnjso3_1280.png
17:24 <+layer-eight> * corn266 →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 444,314 bytes
17:24 < JollyRgrs> dad got it for free b/c bank thought it was broke and put it to the curb
17:25 < JollyRgrs> (it worked fine)
17:25 < alazare619> i had a friend who use to go to lan conventions etc he had a 34" 4:3 monitor
17:25 < JollyRgrs> did he have to buy 3 seats?
17:25 < alazare619> no idea but it was fucking massive
17:25 < xtensive> CRT?
17:26 < xtensive> I bet that thing weighed as much as a car
17:26 < JollyRgrs> $300lb monitor
17:26 < JollyRgrs> lol
17:26 < alazare619> mind you he also 1v1'd the champ at quake/doom cant remember his name off hand
17:26 < Phendrana> I used to have a 24" Dell CRT and IT was fucking massive
17:26 < JollyRgrs> 300kb... $30,000
17:26 < alazare619> but he had a gaming  mouse/keyboard lineup at the time
17:26 < Phendrana> I can't even imagine 34.
17:26 < JollyRgrs> kb, lb
17:26 < JollyRgrs> geez
17:26 < JollyRgrs> i can't type today
17:26 < Phendrana> 24'' dell crt and my old razer boomslang limited edition
17:26 < Phendrana> for playing quake 3.
17:27 < JollyRgrs> alazare619: oh... like the guy that got his own motherboard line?
17:27 < JollyRgrs> i forget his name, too
17:27 < StrongBad> f4t@l1ty
17:27 < JollyRgrs> fatal or something?
17:27 < JollyRgrs> yeah
17:27 < StrongBad> I leeted that in my own way
17:27 < StrongBad> no idea what it was specifically
17:27 < JollyRgrs> StrongBad: i still don't get how you can type with boxing gloves on
17:27 < StrongBad> lord one day I'll kill myself
17:27 < StrongBad> and that will be in the note
17:27 < alazare619> StrongBad: thats it
17:28 < alazare619> thats who it was
17:28 < Phendrana> I used to idolize that dude
17:28 < Phendrana> cause I was one of the best in europe but never got to play him :(, and wasn't anywhere near HIS level.
17:28 < ouemt> genr8_: somethings wrong here, I've got a laptop hooked up to the switch directly, I can ping 192.168.0.1, but their utility doesn't see it and I get a 501/505 from the website
17:28 < JollyRgrs> says how much europe sucks
17:28 < JollyRgrs> :P
17:28 < Phendrana> then he was the face of gamer nuts
17:28 < vinrock> ICEBURN
17:28 < Phendrana> and that went into the bin
17:29 < JollyRgrs> gamer nuts?
17:29 < Phendrana> ye, I was specifically good at projectile prediction, not much good in the way of rail gunning.
17:29 < xtensive> souonds like it's not the actual router then ouemt ?
17:29 < JollyRgrs> is that a lotion to put on your nuts so it doesn't chaffe while sitting in a chair all day?
17:29 < Phendrana> yeah haha
17:29 < xtensive> or switch or whatever
17:29 < Phendrana> http://bravadogaming.com/editor_uploads/they%20use%20hax.png
17:29 <+layer-eight> * Phendrana →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 184,455 bytes
17:29 < Phendrana> see above
17:30 < xtensive> lol gamerfood
17:30 < StrongBad> americans have stronger hands due to all the texting, and also lifting those heavy cheeseburgers and 120oz slurpees into the face
17:30 < Phendrana> stop gaming like a noob
17:30 < xtensive> aka Monkey Chow!
17:30 < Phendrana> scientifically proven to make you game less of a noob.
17:30 < Phendrana> if you chow down on deez nuts.
17:30 < vinrock> you ain't a pro til' you've poopsocked an all nighter
17:30 < JollyRgrs> ...
17:30 < alazare619> but yea the guy that had the 34" 4:3 monitor it was like a first gen lcd anyways he 1v1'd f4tal or whatever his name was
17:30 < JollyRgrs> nope
17:31 < JollyRgrs> i'll never be pro then
17:31 < vinrock> lies
17:31 < vinrock> you've poopsocked i can feel the guilt
17:31 < alazare619> JollyRgrs:  dont like we all know you are a pro rocket league plaer
17:31 < alazare619> player even
17:31 < JollyRgrs> i've peed in a gatorade bottle while on the road
17:31 < JollyRgrs> that's about it
17:31 < ouemt> xtensive: this device is supposed to have a management interface, it's not pulling an IP from the DHCP server, the default IP is supposed to be 192.168.0.1, which appears to have a webserver running on it, but won't respond to their management software, or serve a page
17:31 < JollyRgrs> alazare619: if only i got paid to suck so bad
17:31 < StrongBad> imagine trading your whole life to be really good at gaming though
17:32 < JollyRgrs> and then to retire at the old age of 19?
17:32 < StrongBad> sounds awful bro
17:32 < xtensive> any chance it's another device taking that IP ouemt and not the one you're thinking it is?
17:32 < dragonfleas> why is alazare619 still online
17:32 < dragonfleas> u need the bant
17:32 < JollyRgrs> and by retire, i mean stop playing
17:32 < JollyRgrs> not stop working
17:32 < StrongBad> is that what he's up to now
17:32 < StrongBad> he's the .001% anyway
17:32 < ouemt> xtensive, it's technically possible, but I don't use that subnet
17:32 < StrongBad> think of all the suckers who tried to get there
17:32 < xtensive> Can you do a port scan on it, or telnet to port 80 and do a GET to see if it spits out anything relevant?
17:32 < ouemt> I'll finish physically isolating it in a sec
17:32 < Sousapro> LMAO I now need a flagpole on my Harley https://i.redd.it/exmd47kh32811.jpg
17:32 <+layer-eight> * Sousapro →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 180,008 bytes
17:33 < JollyRgrs> StrongBad: think of all the HS sports players who made it to college, but not pro?
17:33 < xtensive> just because their utility should be able to identify it otherwise ouemt (you would think)
17:33 < felda> got a sort of weird / pedantic networking question.  Do you set your services to run on non-standard ports and allow those in the firewall OR do you leave your services on standard ports and then NAT redirect a non-standard port to the internal standard port?
17:33 < vinrock> i want the 'no steppe on pepe' flag
17:33 < Sousapro> vinrock: lol
17:33 < StrongBad> JollyRgrs: not really apples to apples but I'll take it
17:33 < felda> like lets say you had an OpenVPN server
17:33 < Sousapro> vinrock: I just thought no step on snek at 80mph was enough to seal the deal for me
17:33 < felda> would you leave it set it to 12345 on the server and allow that port through the firewall
17:34 < JollyRgrs> or?
17:34 <+A-KO> sigh
17:34 <+A-KO> time to put clothes on
17:34 < felda> or you would leave the service 1194 and then have users point to 12345 and have the firewall NAT redirect internally to 1194
17:34 < JollyRgrs> felda: depends on how you wanna do
17:34 < xtensive> are you looking for security through obscurity or just port mapping felda ?
17:35 < felda> xtensive it's probably a little of both
17:35 < JollyRgrs> so my point is you have connection set in your application to go to port 666, right?
17:35 < JollyRgrs> do you want to change and make a 2nd connection... one for on network and one for VPN?
17:35 < alazare619> dragonfleas:  i have 3 boys and a wife with cancer gotta make the money to pay bills
17:35 < vinrock> how many devices are gona be behind the fw that may end up needing that service opened
17:35 < dragonfleas> Fuck dude
17:35 < vinrock> if >1 then nat
17:35 < alazare619> dragonfleas: ill go to the walk in care after work
17:35 < vinrock> er
17:35 < vinrock> <1
17:35 < JollyRgrs> felda: i don't wanna keep changing port depending on which network i'm on
17:35 < vinrock> however that works
17:35 < xtensive> we don't do much of that but when we do the obscure port is on the device side too instead of mapping
17:36 < felda> that's fair
17:36 < felda> I guess it would depend on the service then?
17:36 < ouemt> xtensive: yeah, I just had it physically isolated, only the laptop plugged in and it still didn't work
17:36 < alazare619> dragonfleas:  and if i do die...well 2mill life insurance they will be set...
17:36 < ouemt> could ping it, but not do anything useful
17:36 < dragonfleas> You're not gonna die buddy
17:36 < Sousapro> A-KO: why you need clothes tho?
17:36 < corn266> wtf felda you still haven't closed your ftp port
17:36 < dragonfleas> hospital will help you
17:36 < xtensive> makes more sense that way, otherwise you're going to need to keepp track of all the ports that map to other ports, etc.  I don't see and advantages there unless you are out of ports or they all want to ride over the same ones
17:37 < felda> For my OpenVPN I actually have 2 OpenVPN servers running on my pfsense.  One for workers to remotely connect to the server and one to use as a security VPN when they are at McDonalds or whatever
17:37 < felda> corn266 it's fine lmao
17:37 < xtensive> anon logins allowed?
17:37 < felda> the FTP server is on my home network and I have literally nothing critical
17:37 < felda> xtensive no
17:38 < xtensive> I'll upload some MP3s for ya
17:38 < felda> It's running on my Sentora web server
17:38 < felda> I'll tweak it later
17:38 < felda> so it isn't running on 22
17:38 < felda> maybe I'll even setup SSL FTP
17:38 < felda> Is it just called SFTP?
17:38 < xtensive> s/22/21 ?
17:38 <+layer-eight> [SED xtensive/felda] so it isn't running on 21 ?
17:38 <@cryptic1> just setup regular ftp
17:38 <@cryptic1>  /s
17:39 < felda> my bad not 22
17:39 < corn266> felda I can't scp random shit onto your server through port 21 :(
17:39 < felda> It's 20 and 21 that are open
17:39 < genr8_> 20 is the control port
17:39 < felda> oh SFTP just stands for SSH FTP
17:39 < felda> not SSL
17:39 < Sousapro> Enhancement request: all anonymous Dropbox access and use the worst of it to name and shame
17:39 < Sousapro> s/all/allow
17:39 <+layer-eight> [SED Sousapro] Enhancement request: allow anonymous Dropbox access and use the worst of it to name and shame
17:40 < Sousapro> Felda, make it happen
17:40 < genr8_> FTP+TLS can be on 21/990
17:40 <+A-KO> I find it funny how people ignore the fact that FTP has had SSL for like forever
17:40 < felda> Doesn't seem that bad
17:40 < genr8_> the acronyms clobber each other
17:40 <+A-KO> OMG USE SFTP! .....FTP with SSL is just fine
17:40 <+A-KO> works in the same way
17:40 < felda> just gotta figure out how to do networking on Ubuntu 1404
17:40 < Sousapro> A-KO: FTPS?
17:40 < corn266> heh
17:41 <+A-KO> Sousapro: that's usually how I acronym it
17:41 < Phendrana> i need to figure out how tf to do networking on ubuntu 18
17:41 < Phendrana> it's all chaos now
17:41 <+A-KO> You can tell when someone in security is talking out of their ass when they say "FTP is bad because it's not encrypted."
17:42 < genr8_> FTPS (FTP over TLS) is served up in two incompatible modes. If using explicit FTPS, the client connects to the normal FTP port and explicitly switches into secure (TLS) mode with "AUTH TLS", whereas implicit FTPS is an older style service that assumes TLS mode right from the start of the connection (and normally listens on TCP port 990, rather than 21).
17:42 < corn266> So `ftp felda.io 21` lets me join
17:42 < genr8_> FTPS (FTP encrypted with TLS) should not be confused with SFTP (SSH). The latter is a completely different protocol
17:42 < felda> o rly?
17:42 < corn266> yea you mind if I play around with it?
17:42 < felda> what directory does it drop you in?
17:42 <+A-KO> genr8_: STARTTLS is a perfectly supported TLS method for a whole lot of protocols :P
17:42 < corn266> dunno it connected and I control+c out of there
17:42 <+A-KO> AD supports it for LDAP connections, SMTP supports it
17:43 < JFDkthx> ya rly
17:43 < corn266> I can tell you if you give me permission
17:43 <+A-KO> The only people that hate STARTTLS are the *real* security nazis
17:43 < genr8_> yeah. STARTTLS is known as opportunistic TLS
17:43 < felda> lol
17:44 < felda> corn266 just look and see there is nothing important on there
17:44 < genr8_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunistic_TLS
17:44 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  Opportunistic TLS - Wikipedia
17:44 < JFDkthx> deciding on gas station burrito salad for lunch
17:44 < JFDkthx> got it chorizo so i can shit extra tonight
17:44 < xtensive> make sure felda removed all his picture folders of doilies
17:44 < corn266> kk gimme a sec I'm helping out with PKI certs
17:44 < felda> my external crap must be broken
17:44 < felda> I just get unroutable address trying server address and then it times out
17:44 < JFDkthx> corn266: ugh, we just got an email saying all of our certs need to be revoked and reissued
17:45 <+A-KO> god my stomach makes too many noises
17:45 <+A-KO> like wtf
17:45 <+A-KO> stupid stomach
17:45 < JFDkthx> punch it
17:45 <+A-KO> it's almost perpetually making noises
17:45 < genr8_> Some admins understand everything, but still prefer to allow only SSL ports (maybe with a firewall). This could be because it makes it easier to ensure that no information is leaked, because SSL/TLS handshake happens immediately. Some clients unfortunately try to do plaintext authentication without STARTTLS, even when IMAP server has told the client that it won't work. Besides, it requires fewer round-trips if you begin SSL upon connection
17:45 < genr8_> when you know you want it, instead of connect, negotiate capabilities, insist on TLS, then start all over again inside the encrypted session.
17:45 < genr8_> It tries to say that a user can transmit their credentials and NOT issue a STARTTLS command, thereby exposing themselves
17:45 <+A-KO> genr8_: there's almost some leaked information, usually in the cert itself having to be presented :P
17:46 < genr8_> metadata it said. not sure exactly.
17:46 < genr8_> so theres a slight difference.
17:47 <+A-KO> yeah. there's a slight difference, but not too much. Between certificates including site information, or situations where there's HTTP 301 Redirects (80 -> 443), or stuff like SNI.....
17:47 <+A-KO> I find it silly anyone truly cares that much
17:47 <+A-KO> this data copy is almost done
17:47 <+A-KO> omg
17:48 < admiralspark> A-KO: how much?
17:48 <+A-KO> oh, only about 4TB or so
17:48 <+A-KO> not much
17:48 < admiralspark> ahh
17:48 < genr8_> i had a dream last night that I was peeing, and at the end, compressed air started spurting out and im like oh no.....
17:48 < admiralspark> slow link then?
17:48 < genr8_> muh dicks broke
17:48 < admiralspark> genr8_: the fuck man
17:48 <+A-KO> nope. USB3.0 to a storage space 3-way mirror with an array of MOSTLY 5400RPM disks and no write cache :P
17:48 <+A-KO> on SATA
17:48 < alazare619> wife: "I dont have any underwear that dont either have holes in them or are worn out i need some new underwear"...me: "I just bought you some like a month ago" her: "see previous statement about not having holes in them...that applies to crotchless"
17:48 < admiralspark> oh god
17:49 < admiralspark> :'(
17:49 < admiralspark> er
17:49 < admiralspark> that was @ A-KO , not you alazare619
17:49 < genr8_> that reminds me i do need underwear
17:49 <+A-KO> lol
17:49 < genr8_> all my silk boxers got stretched out
17:49 < StrongBad> modal briefs master race
17:49 <+A-KO> admiralspark: I'm slowly moving it all to 7200RPM disks, but it'll be some time before the transition is complete (all 4TB to 10TB disks)
17:50 < xtensive> boxer briefs
17:50 < alazare619> i got some of those briefs that you see on commercials about holding your nuts just right
17:50 < alazare619> not going to lie they are pretty badass
17:50 < genr8_> i wore those for a while but they were too constricting
17:50 < StrongBad> yeah I grew up in tighty whities
17:50 < StrongBad> boxer briefs are amazing
17:50 < alazare619> ^
17:50 < alazare619> i wear boxers or boxer briefs
17:51 < felda> to be honest I might rip out this Sentora install and try doing everything by hand
17:51 < StrongBad> boxers aren't very supportive of my needs
17:51 < alazare619> i one time got some speedo style briefs...tighty whitties and wore them around the house before we had kids she about died laughin
17:51 < alazare619> StrongBad: you too have sat on a nut before havent you
17:51 < alazare619> i know the pain
17:52 < StrongBad> yeah it's brutal
17:53 < alazare619> https://www.duluthtrading.com/store/mens/mens-underwear/mens-boxers-mens-briefs/mens-boxers-mens-briefs.aspx
17:53 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  Boxers For Men, Briefs For Men, Boxer Briefs For Men - Duluth Trading
17:53 < alazare619> thats what i rock
17:53 < asimon> how are you still not in the hospital
17:53 < alazare619> see above i'm going after work
17:54 < StrongBad> he's a man
17:54 <+A-KO> off to work I go
17:54 < alazare619> my kidneys are functioning i'm not sluring words and i have ate after vommiting and kept it down :P
17:54 < alazare619> my arms are just spaghetti and i'm achey is all
17:54 < alazare619> slight headache but that could be lack of caffeine yesterday
17:55 < alazare619> my internal rectal temp is 98.7 yes we have a poop shoot themometer at the house
17:55 < alazare619> thermometer?
17:55 < alazare619> sp?
17:55 <+giant_it_burrit> proof you take it up the butt!
17:55 < alazare619> the-mom-meter
17:56 < felda> yeah I think I'm going to destroy my Sentora install and do an Ubuntu 1804 server and install a LAMP stack
17:56 < alazare619> giant_it_burrit: only from you bb
17:56 <+giant_it_burrit> is too small to be me
17:56 <+giant_it_burrit> might be shaky
17:57 < humpaxx> Sup ya´ll?
18:01 < alazare619> why is vomit so foul smelling?
18:02 < alazare619> dr dick why does vomit smell so bad?
18:05 < xtensive> why not debian felda ?
18:05 < xtensive> if it's just going to be a LAMP server I mean
18:06 <@mistiry> hey windows folks.... office 365, need to add an availability config (New-AvailabilityConfig) to set up calendar interop with G-Suite....but it errors out, "The user or group wasn't found."  anyone have any experience setting something like this up?
18:08 < StrongBad> because you are an acid and bacteria filled tube that is designed for killing fucking and eating alazare619
18:08 <@cryptic1> O_o
18:08 <@cryptic1> easy now
18:08 < Anaphylaxis> governments pls
18:08 < Anaphylaxis> they make it so hard for shit to work
18:09 <@cryptic1> mistiry, protip stop using g-suite
18:09 <@mistiry> cryptic1: not my choice
18:09 < Anaphylaxis> whats wrong with gsuite? @cr
18:09 < Anaphylaxis> cryptic1,
18:09 <@mistiry> company we acquired uses it, and we're not moving all that into our O365 tenant for a long time, but need to see calendar info
18:09 < alazare619> StrongBad: that is the most savage explanation of what being a human is that i've ever seen
18:09 < StrongBad> lol
18:10 < alazare619> StrongBad: please join my band we are named "Vicious Vomit" as you are exceptionally SAVAGE!
18:10 < StrongBad> ++
18:11 < StrongBad> stomach acid can dissolve metal; pretty crazy guy
18:11 <@cryptic1> are u guys high?
18:11 < hxcsp> ...
18:12 < coderphive> cryptic1: no
18:12 < Billy2> dont judge
18:12 < xtensive> It's just sulfuric isn't it?
18:12 < StrongBad> would I be using semicolons if I was high?
18:12 < coderphive> cryptic1: from now on
18:12 < hxcsp> StrongBad: yeah
18:12 < hxcsp> lol
18:13 < StrongBad> you got me
18:14 < StrongBad> I recovered that drive I asked about in here the other day. disk2vhd ftw. I just upgraded firefox from 43 to 52.9. had to go in stages---took like 5 ff upgrades and reboots to get current
18:15 < StrongBad> now vhd2disk and into another host with my fingers crossed
18:15 < humpaxx> Found a laptop with Firefox 19 on it a few days ago
18:15 < coderphive> cryptic1: from the other side
18:15 < adamb> 12920224
18:15 < adamb> crap
18:15 <@mistiry> hunter2
18:15 < xtensive> ******
18:16 < adamb> good job it's only valid for another 5 seconds
18:16 < humpaxx> Oh no the moment is gone
18:16 <@mistiry> dat two-factor code
18:16 < humpaxx> adamb´s accounts are safe for another round
18:16 <@mistiry> security is breach. firewalls are die. nobody is safe.
18:16 < humpaxx> mistiry: ipv6
18:17 < adamb> need to fiddle with tmux to make it more obsious which pane I'm poking
18:17 < humpaxx> Im off to have a bite to eat with a friend
18:17 < onenerdyguy> bah. I really wish I had my slow get caught up day today I was hoping for
18:18 < humpaxx> laters
18:18 < onenerdyguy> instead of the "OH GOD DO IT ALL NOW SCREW TESTING JUST PUSH TO PROD"
18:18 < humpaxx> onenerdyguy: Tomorrow is friday, do it then :P
18:18 < onenerdyguy> humpaxx, if only. 24/7 call means NO
18:19 < coderphive> push2prod --skip tests
18:19 < xtensive> today is so slow here onenerdyguy so many people took it off
18:20 < xtensive> surprised you are so busy
18:20 < technonerd> I'm looking busy
18:20 < coderphive> Today is officially known as American sunburn/hangover day
18:20 < onenerdyguy> xtensive, so many people took the day off here too, so now it's all kinds of other things
18:20 < coderphive> I used the day to pressure wash my sidewalk
18:25 < JFDkthx> somebody hold me
18:27 < Anaphylaxis> coderphive, pics before & after pls?
18:27 < felda> xtensive I would go Ubuntu because I'm using Ubuntu 1804 as my daily driver and I'm comfortable with it
18:27 < xtensive> fair enough felda
18:28 < coderphive> Anaphylaxis: Sure. Give me a second
18:30 <@mistiry> never mind, figured out my own problem
18:30 < abakedapplepie> `nominate mistiry
18:30 < coderphive> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/MMQRXc85/IMG_20180705_112916.jpg
18:30 <+layer-eight> * coderphive →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 3,211,244 bytes
18:30 < abakedapplepie> lol
18:30 < coderphive> Bottom one was sprayed, the top was not
18:31 <@mistiry> is that how it works?
18:31 < abakedapplepie> yes
18:31 < abakedapplepie> coderphive: can hardly tell you did anything lol
18:31 < abakedapplepie> side walk doesnt seem terribly dirty
18:31 < coderphive> The top three have like a black film on them
18:31 < ekaj> I found a bird in my work's parking garage that had fell out of its nest so I took it home to nurse it to health
18:31 < coderphive> The steps were worse because they go down a slope
18:32 < JollyRgrs> maaaaaaaan
18:32 < JollyRgrs> meeting until 12:30...
18:32 < ekaj> it escaped while my mom was feeding it today and flew behind the dishwasher, my brother had to pull it out to get the bird out lol
18:32 < JollyRgrs> but if i get lunch now, i'll lose my good parking space
18:32 <@mistiry> JollyRgrs: y u no op
18:32 < JollyRgrs> mistiry: i was replaced by systemdee
18:32 < ekaj> systemdeez nuts
18:32 < JollyRgrs> too many bugs in my code
18:32 <@mistiry> JollyRgrs: heh, same thing here, if i go to lunch at the wrong time, ill get stuck with crap parking
18:33 < coderphive> wrong JollyRgrs
18:33 < JollyRgrs> i like to go early so i skip out on traffic
18:33 < coderphive> You were replaced for a lack of binaries
18:33 < JollyRgrs> but now i worry about losing my spot
18:33 < coderphive> 4 binaries is unacceptable
18:33 < coderphive> 16 binaries is very acceptable
18:34 < JollyRgrs> coderphive: but the rules state that i can wear a minimum of 4
18:36 < coderphive> JollyRgrs: Yeah well we fixed that rule with the last working group
18:36 < coderphive> so get with the times
18:37 < JollyRgrs> https://mewe.com/nyt
18:37 < JollyRgrs> this is funny to read
18:37 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  MeWe - The Next-Gen Social Network
18:48 < JollyRgrs> dang...
18:48 < JollyRgrs> did everyone go to lunch or something?
18:49 < rootsudo> yeah
18:49 < xtensive> must have
18:49 < rootsudo> it's called no one in the office
18:49 < JollyRgrs> i'm starving
18:49 < JollyRgrs> i want to go
18:49 <+TuxedoJack> Lunch? The fuck is that?
18:49 < rootsudo> TuxedoJack the fuck you at where you don't have lunch
18:49 < JollyRgrs> but if ppl aren't returning yet (which they aren't in my office), it means all those ppl would take my prime parking spot
18:49 < JollyRgrs> rootsudo: he works in hell
18:49 < JollyRgrs> he needs to get a new job
18:49 < xtensive> I'm just sitting here in MDT waiting
18:49 < rootsudo> I always take a 90-2 hour lunch
18:49 <+TuxedoJack> rootsudo: I work from home, and today, I'm going to spend what passes for a lunch break curled up with two 9-week-old kittens getting snuggled
18:50 < rootsudo> and make sure the company credit card accompanies me as I take out help desk and such
18:50 < xtensive> so do you wait for everyone to get back from lunch before going JollyRgrs ?
18:50 < rootsudo> TuxedoJack last night I had fun with my cat
18:50 < rootsudo> he was at the window and outside were 2 cats taunting him
18:50 < JollyRgrs> xtensive: normally i leave on the early side
18:51 < JollyRgrs> then only MORE parking spaces are open
18:51 < xtensive> oh that's even better
18:51 < JollyRgrs> but i was on a skype call until 12:30
18:51 < rootsudo> JollyRgrs gotta risk it man
18:51 < rootsudo> what I like doing is stratgetic planning
18:51 < Sousapro> I want a social network where only funny memes are allowed
18:51 < rootsudo> I come in late, I leave after everyone else leaves which is always at 4
18:52 < xtensive> you gotta keep a construction cone in your car, put that in your parking spot when you leave
18:52 < JollyRgrs> xtensive: ha, i'd prob end up getting towed or something
18:52 < JollyRgrs> the property mgmt here are stiffs
18:52 < JollyRgrs> rootsudo: i come in usually on the "late" side
18:52 < JollyRgrs> i was told to be in by 9, but most everyone gets here at 830 or earlier
18:53 < JollyRgrs> but i don't stay until 6 :P
18:53 < JollyRgrs> usually
18:55 < abakedapplepie> get one of the orange spinny costruction lights
18:56 < abakedapplepie> park wherever you damn well please
19:02 < StrongBad> anyone know of a good tool to write a vhd/vhdx to a physical drive from windows?
19:03 < StrongBad> I thought sysinternals had vhd2disk but I can't find it
19:05 < StrongBad> rufus doesn't seem to want to do it either
19:06 < genr8_> rawrite dd for windows
19:06 < genr8_> VHDs are just disk images eh ?
19:06 < rootsudo> I used to be really bad
19:06 < rootsudo> I come in at 8:45 and leave at 4:10
19:07 < rootsudo> that way I beat everyone coming in at 9-9:10 and they assumed I was in the office from 8
19:07 < rootsudo> I even had it reported to my recruiter "he comes in early and stays late" and I'm like 😂 if only they knew
19:07 < genr8_> StrongBad: clonezilla does it apparently too
19:07 < xtensive> George, is that you?
19:08 < StrongBad> hoping to do it within windows genr8_
19:08 < rootsudo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBqTnTz6xOU I'm going to build this
19:08 <+layer-eight> * rootsudo →  YouTube → Traffic Light Changer (M.I.R.T.) → ⚘ 6,202 ↑ 72 ↓ 2 ✍ 24
19:08 < genr8_> how about just mount the VHD and copy it normally
19:09 < genr8_> or try this.  https://github.com/wooxo/Vhd2Disk/blob/master/Vhd2disk/VhdToDisk.cpp
19:09 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  GitHub → wooxo → Vhd2Disk → V2P tool working with Microsoft's VHD image. This tool is working like a mirror of the Sysinternal's Disk2Vhd tool. → @ ~ 3 years ago → C++ → ✡ 24 → Forks: 5 → ☹ 1
19:10 < StrongBad> yeah but what is that, how do I run it
19:10 < genr8_> compile it or find the exe
19:10 < genr8_> seems SysInternals removed the utility
19:12 < genr8_> StrongBad: yeah seems like the preffered way is just to mount the VHD (attach) and then Disk Clone using whatever in windows
19:13 < genr8_> i use Passmark OSFMount to mount images like that
19:19 < StrongBad> ok thanks
19:19 < StrongBad> I'll give it a try
19:22 < genr8_> Anyone know why I can't disconnect from ISCSI sessions in win10?  It just keeps saying "The session cannot be logged out since a device on that session is currently being used" And all the devices are marked as Offline in Disk Management and things have gotten so bad theres 3 Duplicate sessions
19:22 < genr8_> I really dont wana restart
19:23 < StrongBad> genr8_: it doesn't seem like osfmount can clone...?
19:23 < StrongBad> just mounts?
19:23 < genr8_> no. it mounts.
19:23 < genr8_> clone with somethin else
19:27 < coderphive> rootsudo: they take pictures every time a device is used to change the traffic light
19:27 < coderphive> and it's very obvious whos car it's coming from
19:27 < coderphive> just FYI
19:30 <@cryptic1> coderphive, FYI
19:30 <@cryptic1> coderphive, back to work
19:30 < coderphive> cryptic1: hello
19:30 <@cryptic1> i saaaaaaaaaaaid back to work!
19:30 < alazare619> nope
19:31 < coderphive> cryptic1: I'm doing a sit in of r/sysadmin
19:31 < coderphive> protesting systemic oppression of coderphive people under cryptic1 rule
19:31 < genr8_> ugh. so much for not rebooting. theres no "Force close all ISCSI handles"
19:31 < JFDkthx> 30 minutes
19:32 < rpifan> death to coderphive
19:32 < JFDkthx> cryptic1: get a job
19:32 <@cryptic1> D:
19:32 <+TuxedoJack> FUCKING SAGE
19:32 <@cryptic1> * Received a CTCP WORK from JFDkthx
19:32 <@cryptic1> * Received a CTCP WORK from JFDkthx
19:32 <@cryptic1> * Received a CTCP WORK from JFDkthx
19:32 <@cryptic1> * Received a CTCP WORK from JFDkthx
19:32 <@cryptic1> * Received a CTCP WORK from JFDkthx
19:32 <@cryptic1> * Received a CTCP WORK from JFDkthx
19:32 <@cryptic1> * Received a CTCP WORK from JFDkthx
19:32 <@cryptic1> * Received a CTCP WORK from JFDkthx
19:32 <@cryptic1> :((((((
19:32 < JFDkthx> who
19:32 <+TuxedoJack> Who the fuck is still on fucking Sage Timbnerline 9.8
19:32 < JFDkthx> would ever
19:32 <+TuxedoJack> When the fucking current version is 18
19:33 < JFDkthx> cryptic1: that wasnt me
19:33 < JFDkthx> its an imposter
19:33 < coderphive> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZL_QlxBqQs
19:33 <+layer-eight> * coderphive →  YouTube → Change traffic lights with a universal remote! → ⚘ 4,432,298 ↑ 10,384 ↓ 2,537 ✍ 5,631
19:33 < coderphive> lmao
19:33 < JFDkthx> thats illegal af
19:33 < StrongBad> and get sent to federal prison for tampering with emergency systems!
19:33 < genr8_> hah
19:33 < JFDkthx> Hatter: can you stop getting cryptic1  to do your dirty work
19:34 < genr8_> safe for work gif of a intelligent birb https://i.imgur.com/RIOeAlx.gifv
19:34 < JFDkthx> if you're not man enough dont bother asking him
19:34 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  IMGUR Image → Image/gif → 10 hours ago → gifs → 320x567 → Animated → ⚘ 2,215,447
19:34 <@cryptic1> JFDkthx, Hatter pays really well
19:34 < JFDkthx> for beejs
19:34 < JFDkthx> and z jobs
19:35 < genr8_> I believe i looked into those sensors once. forgot what the conclusion i came to was other than "illegal af"
19:35 < genr8_> you used to be able to flash your high beams at em
19:38 < threwahway> UPS / Fedex are GARBAGE now. USPS all the way bbs
19:38 < threwahway> state run <3
19:39 <@cryptic1> JFDkthx, majority of my income is provided by Hatter
19:39 <@cryptic1> i am simply a bot
19:43 < JFDkthx> i fell asleep at my desk -.-
19:49 < onenerdyguy> So is anyone only pushing Security Only updates to their Windows boxens?
19:49 < onenerdyguy> servers, I mean
19:56 < rootsudo> coderphive fuck I didn't know
19:56 < rootsudo> that sucks
20:02 < genr8_> onenerdyguy: yes, servers dont need the feature updates
20:02 < onenerdyguy> genr8_, thats what I thought. Just doing a sanity check
20:03 < genr8_> think hunterkll said to run the cumulative updates every month and only upgrade once a year
20:05 < jaelae> hmf boss gets mad if im too helpful and fix stuff
20:06 < genr8_> dont?
20:07 < genr8_> or do, report him and wait patiently to take his job
20:08 < L3gacy> Good bacon to all and to all some good bacon!  How is everyone doing, so far, on this fine day, today?
20:09 < rpifan> misspwn,
20:09 < xtensive> bacon
20:09 < jaelae> tickets come in and say hey i need this. and he puts a note on it saying he is checking with another team on it. then a week later they follow up and he is out of the office so i set it up for them and get in trouble for doing work
20:09 < jaelae> :|
20:10 < xtensive> hey if he takes ownership of that ticket, make him follow through with it
20:10 < coderphive> cryptic1 and Hatter are married?
20:11 < abakedapplepie> i wish my coworkers would grasp that concept
20:11 < JollyRgrs> cryptic1 is canadian, they allow that i guess
20:11 < abakedapplepie> i have one guy that takes easy tickets and banks them for later
20:11 < abakedapplepie> ffs
20:11 < abakedapplepie> drives me nuts
20:12 < L3gacy> abakedapplepie, slaps hims with a flamberge, then goose him with a main gauche
20:12 < coderphive> is Hatter talking?
20:12 < coderphive> I don't see him talking
20:13  * L3gacy slides hatter some nachos with queso blanco, bacon, and guac.  *tops it off some some sriracha*
20:13 < JollyRgrs> speaking of nuts... https://deadspin.com/the-results-of-taking-a-fastball-to-the-nuts-are-as-hor-1827286596
20:13 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  The Results Of Taking A Fastball To The Nuts Are As Horrifying As You Can Imagine
20:14 < JFDkthx> have a good weekend nerds
20:14 < JollyRgrs> layer-eight: why'd you ruin it with sriracha
20:14 < abakedapplepie> L3gacy has been playing diablo it sounds like
20:14 < abakedapplepie> lol
20:14 < JollyRgrs> jalapeno-y spice goes best with nachos and queso blanco
20:14 < abakedapplepie> sriracha doesnt belong on any tex mex
20:14 < L3gacy> I make a minced jalapeno and sriracha aioli that is amazeballs
20:14 < abakedapplepie> #hottake
20:15 < L3gacy> abakedapplepie, I play WoW, and League
20:15 < xtensive> What is queso blanco?
20:15 < abakedapplepie> white cheese
20:15 < StrongBad> white cheese
20:15 < L3gacy> white cheese
20:15 < JollyRgrs> xtensive: good cheese
20:15 < abakedapplepie> :)
20:15 < L3gacy> amaze cheese
20:15 < JollyRgrs> not just white cheese
20:15 < L3gacy> I also love brie :)
20:15 < xtensive> aaaaaaaaah WHITE ok didn't know what blanco was :D
20:15 < abakedapplepie> its literally "white cheese" translated
20:15 < JollyRgrs> ^^
20:15 < JollyRgrs> but it isn't just white cheese, it's a specific cheese
20:15 < abakedapplepie> but its a specific type of melting cheese
20:15 < L3gacy> It's Mexicano
20:16 < abakedapplepie> used in mexican food
20:16 < abakedapplepie> mild flavor
20:16 < xtensive> like oaxaco or something ?
20:16 < abakedapplepie> good melt
20:16 < abakedapplepie> sorta yeah
20:16 < xtensive> however you spell it
20:16 < L3gacy> DONT melt it in a pot.  USE A DOUBLE BOILER
20:16 < JollyRgrs> https://www.culturesforhealth.com/learn/recipe/cheese-recipes/queso-blanco/
20:16 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  Queso Blanco Recipe  - Cultures for Health
20:16 < abakedapplepie> thats true for all cheeses
20:16 < abakedapplepie> unless you want cooked cheese
20:16 < L3gacy> even on amazing low eat, it WILL SCALD
20:16 < StrongBad> aguacate abogado agua gato
20:17 < JollyRgrs> what about a water cat?
20:17 < L3gacy> I also do this AMAZE beef stew.  I can never get a second bowl when I make it and invite people over....
20:18 < JollyRgrs> i made my absolute best ever burgers yesterday
20:18 < JollyRgrs> and so mad b/c it was an afterthought (daughter wanted burgers more than the chicken we had planned)
20:18 < JollyRgrs> so 2 lbs into 5 patties (.4 Lb patties)
20:18 < aName> Anyone here ever seen issues editing a shared calendar on ZCS using outlook?
20:18 < JollyRgrs> grains aligned
20:18 < aName> Keeps telling my user it's read-only but they have permissions on it
20:18 < aName> (works in the webmail just fine)
20:18 < JollyRgrs> and ranch powder on all 3 sides of the patty
20:18 < L3gacy> Beef cubes, baby carrots, diced potatoes, 3 WHOLE heads of mashed garlic, a diced large onion, beef gravy granules, beef BONE MARROW stock, a little mint, basil, parsley, thyme... crock pot
20:19 < JollyRgrs> OMG, most delicious burger ever
20:19 < JollyRgrs> melted in mouth
20:19 < xtensive> I had an awesome white queso dip in Austin, and the best surprise part was they hid a dollop of guac at the bottom
20:19 < JollyRgrs> aName: zcs?
20:19 < aName> Zimbra Colloboration Server
20:19 < JollyRgrs> oh
20:20 < JollyRgrs> so i guess that answers on if i know the answer or not
20:20 < L3gacy> Zumba Crowd Surfing?
20:20 < JollyRgrs> Zebra Caretaker Staff
20:21 < JollyRgrs> so i'm still in the process of being given what my new role actually entails (like the full details and specifics) and i'm already asking to take on something else... am i stupid?
20:22 < L3gacy> JollyRgrs, I suggest a red Swingline 747 stapler
20:22 < JollyRgrs> thing is... the thing i wanna take on (how we make our images) needs VAST improvement, and will be the closest thing to a techincal position i'll have
20:22 < xtensive> did you make the jump to devops JollyRgrs ?
20:22 < JollyRgrs> worse
20:22 < coderphive> JollyRgrs: you got a new job?
20:22 < JollyRgrs> my title has "manager" in it
20:22 < ebol4> GOD
20:22 < JollyRgrs> coderphive: promoted to the global team
20:22 < xtensive> oooooh look at mr fancy here
20:22 < JollyRgrs> originaly role was NOT a mgmt role
20:23 < felda> did you all enjoy your 4th of July
20:23 < ebol4> you're part of the bourgeoisie now
20:23 < rootsudo> I miss the days when I thought 70k was a good paying job
20:23 < rootsudo> what happened to me
20:23 < xtensive> we could put as many as three people under you JollyRgrs right away
20:23 < JollyRgrs> but in the middle of interviewing for position #1, restructure and the headcount was under someone else with this other position
20:23 < JollyRgrs> rootsudo: you realized life ain't that cheap
20:23 < rootsudo> and I see people hiring app developers for 55k
20:23 < abakedapplepie> im hopefully going to have the best burger of my life tonight
20:23 < rootsudo> and I'm like "lol"
20:24 < JollyRgrs> rootsudo: fresh outta college
20:24 < ebol4> abakedapplepie: where at? or u making it
20:24 < JollyRgrs> they'll take it
20:24 < abakedapplepie> my friend from california is bringing his dry aged burgers over
20:24 < abakedapplepie> my backyard :)
20:24 < abakedapplepie> he dry ages steaks and beef
20:24 < JollyRgrs> over your backyard?
20:24 < rootsudo> abakedapplepie nice
20:24 < rootsudo> I miss the days where I could look forward and call it a good day  by having a good burger
20:24 < JollyRgrs> i've never had any dry aged stuff
20:24 < ebol4> do that thing i saw on buzzfeed where you pour cheese sauce over the whole burger, bun and all
20:24 < JollyRgrs> but i saw some stuff being dry aged at this restaurant i was working at one time (fixing their computer woes)
20:24 < JollyRgrs> somethign about seeing that mold or whatever on the carcass was just kinda... gross
20:25 < ebol4> that's the flavour babey
20:25 < JollyRgrs> rootsudo: welcome to good burger, home of the good burger, may i take your order?
20:25 < JollyRgrs> s/may/can
20:25 < sideup66> Coming out the sluuums
20:25 <+layer-eight> [SED JollyRgrs] rootsudo: welcome to good burger, home of the good burger, can i take your order?
20:25 < sideup66> Back your bon bons
20:25  * technonerd looks at butt
20:25 < rootsudo> JollyRgrs What are you doing here? Got fired from IT?
20:25  * technonerd does circles
20:25 < abakedapplepie> JollyRgrs yeah its offputting but im excited
20:25 < abakedapplepie> same with proscuitto
20:26 < abakedapplepie> that stuff looks disgusting
20:26 < xtensive> no way, prosciutto is delicious
20:26 < rootsudo> We currently have over 40 openings for Entry Level Software Engineers, in multiple locations throughout the United States. No prior coding experience is required. You will receive the necessary training on after you are hired.
20:26 < xtensive> what language rootsudo ?
20:26 < rootsudo> What kind of slavery is that
20:26 < rootsudo> xtensive lol i dunno
20:27 < rootsudo> i was on glassdoor and that just stood out
20:27 < JollyRgrs> xtensive: indian and tagali or however you spell it?
20:27 < DoctorDick> Do you give out complimentary butt plugs?
20:27 < rootsudo> https://revature.com/jobs/entry-level-engineer/?utm_source=glassdoor&utm_campaign=November
20:27 <+layer-eight> * rootsudo →  Entry Level Software Engineer - Revature
20:27 < xtensive> lol JollyRgrs
20:27 < genr8_> rootsudo: sounds good to me
20:28 < JollyRgrs> so... i have nothing more to do today?
20:28 < JollyRgrs> can i just go home?
20:28 < genr8_> I wish more people would train
20:28 < xtensive> touche'
20:29 < xtensive> it's probably not a bad gig if you're young and inexperienced, make shit money but get training and real life experience writing apps or whatever they are doing
20:30 < rpifan> who?
20:30 < rpifan> i want PFY work
20:30 < rpifan> i need FPY WORJ
20:30 < rpifan> is anyone in NYC
20:30 < xtensive> the link rootsudo posted rpifan
20:31 < rpifan> why use the title enginner there more like software monkey
20:31 < corn266> JollyRgrs, take me with you, 3 more hours of just sitting here
20:31 < rootsudo> So I need to negiotate properly
20:31 < rootsudo> They allow remote 3 times a week, I need to make it full time remote
20:31 < xtensive> well software monkey doesn't have the same ring on a business card
20:32 < rootsudo> I think if I go in with first 90 days I'll be on site, to make sure things are arranged I can turn it remote
20:32 < ebol4> rpifan: ye
20:32 < rpifan> but its not really an enginner job
20:33 < JollyRgrs> corn266: oh yeah, also my BT headphones' battery went out this morning, and i can't use it via BT while charging (i can only plug in a 3.5mm and use that... pfft)
20:33 < aName> Ugh, I hate when an issue crops back up and it's like 'I know I've fixed this before but I have no memory of how, just that it was a bitch'
20:33 < JollyRgrs> so i'm just kinda like "ugh"
20:34 < JollyRgrs> aName: those are the worst
20:34 < xtensive> and you search the HD and find a ticket with the same issue and no notes
20:34 < JollyRgrs> or even worster... "i know i documented it b/c it was a bitch... where the hell did i store that docuemntation at?"
20:34 < xtensive> and it was closed by you
20:34 < aName> xtensive: yeeeaaaaaaah
20:34 < xtensive> haha
20:34 < corn266> what model headphones? I may buy some soon cause I'm tired of running over the cable for the current ones
20:34 < genr8_> thats why you have to store all your documentation in 1 greppable directory
20:35 < arlion> corn266: I love my sony MDR-7506
20:35 < JollyRgrs> sony mdr-xb950t
20:35 < genr8_> ive been trying to keep a daily build log but its fucking hard to include everything
20:35 < arlion> corn266: long cord, great sound isolation and get's very loud without the people around me hearing it.
20:35 < arlion> and the audio quality is awesome.
20:36 < JollyRgrs> in my life, most of my over ear headphones have all been sony (not planned)
20:36 < JollyRgrs> exception being PC headsets
20:36 < genr8_> arent the  sony MDR-7506 studio monitors ?
20:36 < corn266> I'm trying to lose the cord but I'll consider them
20:36 < arlion> genr8_: yes
20:37 < arlion> genr8_: so you know the sound quality is excelente
20:37 < genr8_> thats not a very pleasing sound. too flat
20:37 < genr8_> rather go with IEMs for work too
20:37 < arlion> cool. Do you have a suggestion of a pair that fits the description?
20:38 < arlion> brb, bio
20:38 < genr8_> what the long cable? i wasnt listening really
20:38 < JollyRgrs> genr8_: he wanted wireless
20:38 < genr8_> and making sure its closed off ?
20:38 < genr8_> ah
20:38 < JollyRgrs> to get rid of the long wire he kept running over with his chair
20:38 < JollyRgrs> and then closed off
20:38 < corn266> wait what
20:38 < genr8_> unfortunately im not a wireless fan
20:39 < JollyRgrs> snob
20:39 < JollyRgrs> right tool for the job...
20:39 < xtensive> Will I get kicked if I say Beats?
20:39 < genr8_> anyone could say Beats
20:39 < JollyRgrs> while mowing the lawn, jogging, or at computer chair... wireless is king
20:39 < genr8_> doesnt make it right
20:39 < JollyRgrs> xtensive: you'll only get kicked if you recommend beats as a good choice
20:39 < genr8_> well then he should ask you
20:39 < JollyRgrs> but yo ucan say the word beats no problem
20:39  * xtensive takes notes
20:40 < corn266> eh, I wouldn't mind the wire if my comp was on my left, but it's on the right so it fucks everything up
20:40 < desgen> anyone speak portuguese? All I have is a simple phrase
20:40 < genr8_> Theres a constant barrage of new Wifi headphones and they are all either A) crap or B) overpriced
20:40 < JollyRgrs> beats = "we put scrap metal in the headphones to make it FEEL more quality"
20:40 < desgen> I typed "por que aquaca de baldo" and after por que it was just gibberish I typed
20:40 < desgen> and google translated is as "Why the hell?"
20:40 < desgen> I was pretty amazed tbh
20:40 < ebol4> your subconscious is a brazilian man
20:41 < desgen> oh no i'm a degenerate
20:41 < ebol4> :O
20:41 < genr8_> bald avocado
20:41 < genr8_>  aquacade baldo
20:41 < rpifan> baldo?
20:41 < genr8_> no idae
20:41 < corn266> el baldo**
20:41 < genr8_> apparently baldo is bucket
20:42 < Alternity> fun fact, you can add 'Everyone' to the local admin group on windows machines
20:42 < rpifan> balde is bucket
20:42 < xtensive> ok, friendo
20:42 < rpifan> calvo is bald
20:42 < rpifan> like my head
20:42 < genr8_> how come you can speak spanish
20:42 < corn266> what about bald like your car tires
20:42 < JollyRgrs> Alternity: you can
20:43 <@cryptic1> Alternity, always does that
20:43 < JollyRgrs> you can add guest in there too, if you want
20:43 <@cryptic1> fact
20:43 < Alternity> i found this out because our 'security engineer' did this
20:43 < rpifan> im latino
20:43 < rpifan> genr8_, u oing to bisco
20:43 < Alternity> on one of our servers
20:43 < genr8_> me too
20:43 < onicrom> anyone use gce, anyone use a gce reseller, good things to say about them?
20:43 < Alternity> i now get to write up an signifigant finding about it
20:43 < JollyRgrs> Alternity: HA
20:43 < rpifan> u coming to bisco or ur latino or both genr8_ ?
20:43 < onicrom> rpifan: i am in nyc
20:43 < genr8_> i have a feeling we would get along. both
20:43 < Alternity> the only reason he's still employeed is one of our C-levels thinks he is a genius :/
20:44 < xtensive> make sure to add IUSR and IWAM account to admin too for the website to work proper
20:44 < Alternity> and we cant seem to disuade him of the notion
20:44 < rpifan> r u young and cute
20:44 < genr8_> no
20:44 < onicrom> rpifan: one of those 2
20:44 < Alternity> xtensive: nah just add Everyone to admins
20:44 < genr8_> get disappointed now
20:44 < Alternity> solves all problems!
20:44 < rpifan> lol
20:44 < rpifan> r u old n fat
20:44 < Alternity> why actually troubleshoot and determine what accounts need additional priv
20:44 < onicrom> no
20:45 < onicrom> i believe you
20:45 < onicrom> i believe you're searching for the 'asl'
20:45 < xtensive> sounds like he has a future in mgmt Alternity
20:45 < Alternity> he has his CISSP so ya, probably
20:45 < JollyRgrs> Alternity: "hey boss! i just found a way to cut down helpdesk calls to identity management by 10 fold!"
20:45 < Alternity> i'm sure he makes more than i do
20:45 < rpifan> lol
20:45 < JollyRgrs> Alternity: he's a genius, give him promotion
20:46 < genr8_> im not old and fat but im not young and cute either
20:47 < rpifan> well what r u then
20:47 < Alternity> so you're middle aged and balding?
20:47 < rpifan> lol
20:48 < genr8_> no i have super long hair like bassnectar
20:48 < rpifan> do u?
20:49 < arlion> genr8_: ASL?
20:49 < rpifan> i do bassnectar
20:49 < onicrom> i am male
20:49 < genr8_> this gettin weird now lol
20:49 < onicrom> ny
20:49 < onicrom> not fat or ugly
20:49 < onicrom> old is a tad more subjective :)
20:49 < arlion> you're male, or identify with male, or see yourself as male, or have a lot of maleness?
20:50 < arlion> it's also possible you have mail.
20:50 < onicrom> lol
20:50 < onicrom> i both am male and identify as male
20:50 < arlion> oh great. That's easy
20:50 < onicrom> and i also have lots of mail
20:50 < arlion> Woah!
20:50 < onicrom> mostly of the electronic variety
20:50 < arlion> dam that gmale
20:51 < xtensive> hey guys we gotta cis gender over here!
20:51 < arlion> huh?
20:51 < StrongBad> onicrom: is this you https://media.tenor.com/images/bc4aff382fe16b3a39a0f27acf74b53d/raw
20:51 <+layer-eight> * StrongBad →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 391,567 bytes
20:51 < rpifan> yes and ?
20:51 < onicrom> StrongBad: nope
20:52 < xtensive> oh wait, I might have used the wrong one IDK
20:52 < onicrom> ./nick trogdor
20:52 < xtensive> was trying to make a south park joke
20:53 < Alternity> i sexually identify as a pudding pop
20:53 < onicrom> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gz1DIIxmEE
20:53 <+layer-eight> * onicrom →  YouTube → dragon homestarrunner strong bad trogdor homestar → ⚘ 2,854,706 ↑ 13,876 ↓ 393 ✍ 1,792
20:53 < xtensive> Mmm pudding pop
20:53 < onicrom> its been so long since i watched strongbad
20:53 < arlion> I sexually identify as attack helicopter.
20:53 < arlion> I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I  dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on  disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter  is Impossible and I'm fucking retarded but I don't care, I'm beautiful.  I'm having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and  AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to  call
20:53 < arlion> me "Apache" and respect my right to kill from above and kill  needlessly. If you can't accept me you're a heliphobe and need to check  your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.
20:54 < abakedapplepie> 1998 called they want thir memem back
20:54 < arlion> 2014
20:54 < abakedapplepie> SAME DIFF
20:54 < pcspkr> in internet years it is
20:54 < arlion> in meme time, it's about the same
20:55 < pcspkr> some dank meems yo
20:55 < ebol4> hyuck hyuck fuck trans people hyuck hyuck
20:56 < onicrom> YOU KICK MY DOG
20:57 < StrongBad> trying to clone a windows drive to a new machine using clonezilla. Box for reinstall grub on target disk boot sector is checked "auto"
20:58 < StrongBad> what does that do, replace windows bootloader?
20:59 < StrongBad> "This option will check if a grub boot loader exists in the MBR, if it exists, and a grub config file (/boot/grub/grub.cfg or /boot/grub/menu.lst) is found in restored partition(s), grub-install command will be run to reinstall grub boot loader."
20:59 < StrongBad> so I guess it does nothing on a windows drive
20:59 < StrongBad> hopefully
21:00 < arlion> welll
21:00 < arlion> hold up
21:00 < ekaj> wait a minute
21:00 < ekaj> let us put some drum innit
21:00 < arlion> you need to know the consequences of what you are signing up for
21:01 < arlion> grub is, indeed, a boot loader. It will replace the on disk MBR that windows lays down.
21:01 < arlion> And if you're insanely talented and have time on your hands, it will probably go wrong.
21:02 < arlion> I recommend installing grub to a second disk that will the linux installed on it, and then create a grub entry for the microsoft OS and just point it to the windows MBR
21:02 < ekaj> finally my truck is out of the shop after 2 weeks
21:02 < genr8_> For closed back headphones I would pick something around this: https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-569-Closed-Headphone/dp/B01L1IIF1A/
21:02 < arlion> cause one wrong windows update and your grub partition is toasted.
21:02 < ebol4> not hard to rebuild windows BCD stuff if it doesn't work
21:02 < arlion> yeah, but if the whole partition is nuked, which grub will do
21:03 < ebol4> grub isn't nuking any partitions
21:03 < arlion> if you are replacing the windows mbr, it will
21:03 < ebol4> no it won't
21:03 < genr8_> yall not actually talking about what he's actually doing.
21:03 < genr8_> He wants to clone the drive and not do any funky grub shit
21:04 < arlion> Box for reinstall grub on target disk boot sector is checked "auto"
21:04 < genr8_> you would be advised to UNCHECK that "grub" message stuff
21:04 < genr8_> turn it to DISABLE
21:04 < ebol4> kschhhht copy that control. you would be advised to UNCHECK that grub message stuff, over. ksscchhht
21:05 <@cryptic1> they are looking to trip you up
21:05 <@cryptic1> careful
21:06 < arlion> I only give the best advice
21:06 < arlion> because my voice is around the corner, any moment know
21:06 < ebol4> one of us only tells lies, the other only tells the truth
21:06 < genr8_> no, im not. you should CLEARLY not write a new linux grub  on a windows MBR drive
21:06 < arlion> that's what I said but >.>
21:06 < genr8_> theres not even a linux partition tho
21:07 < genr8_> hes using windows straight up
21:07 < StrongBad> yeah that's what I figured  but I've had clonezilla copies fail with grub unchecked
21:07 < arlion> then wth is that option being offereD?
21:07 < StrongBad> IDK
21:07 < StrongBad> just checking how it actually works
21:07 < genr8_> its the bootsector. it writes a new linux grub. windows bootloader is NOT that.
21:07 < genr8_> bootsectors are complicated to explain in 1 chat
21:08 < StrongBad> I mostly understand them I was just asking a stupid question
21:08 < StrongBad> I don't grok clonezilla options is the problem
21:08 < vinrock> you can overwrite the windows mbr if it makes it easier
21:08 < vinrock> just run a fixmbr afterwards
21:08 < vinrock> violin
21:08 < genr8_> yep
21:09 < genr8_> thats really all you need to know.
21:09 < genr8_> Windows does the writing of Windows MBRs
21:09 < StrongBad> yeah done that from recovery mode a bunch
21:09 < genr8_> the issue is usually that the BCD config is wrong
21:09 < genr8_> which isnt the MBR
21:09 < genr8_> (after you clone)
21:10 < StrongBad> which I fix with bcdedit
21:10 < genr8_> bcdboot /rebuild i think?
21:10 < genr8_> bcdedit too manual
21:10 < genr8_> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/bcdboot-command-line-options-techref-di
21:10 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  BCDBoot Command-Line Options | Microsoft Docs
21:11 < genr8_> ooops said wrong command.  bootrec.exe /rebuildbcd
21:11 < genr8_> or: bcdboot D:\Windows
21:11 < genr8_> what a life. its a miracle anyone knows this
21:14 < genr8_> TIL > you can refer to disks in windows DiskPart by their physical location ID:  SELECT DISK=PCIROOT(0)#PCI(0100)#ATA(C00T00L00)
21:15 < vinrock> i prefer the simple "select disk #" method.
21:15 < genr8_> the above helps for programmatic scripts
21:15 < vinrock> ahhh
21:16 < vinrock> ok yea thats neat then
21:16 < genr8_> you can load up diskpart commands in a textfile and then issue diskpart scripts like this: DiskPart /s F:\CreatePartitions-BIOS.txt
21:24 < StrongBad> tried for way too long to get clonezilla to take a 160GB (only 30gb used) partition onto a 128gb SSD
21:24 < StrongBad> didn't work
21:25 < genr8_> oh yea larger to smaller doesnt work like that i dont think :)
21:25 < StrongBad> some utilities can do it but apparently not clonezilla
21:26 < xtensive> disk2vhd will shrink that to the actual size won't it?
21:26 < genr8_> clonezilla is sector based
21:26 < StrongBad> yeah but then how do you get the VHD back onto a physical disk
21:26 < StrongBad> I struggled with that for hours this morning
21:26 < StrongBad> disk to disk is just way easier
21:26 < genr8_> you try dd.exe for windows or no ?
21:26 < xtensive> once you go virtual you don't go back, homie
21:27 < StrongBad> well this is our HVAC software controller and it is like 15 years old
21:27 < genr8_> nah thats too big anyway
21:27 < StrongBad> and it sits there by itself hooked right up to the HVAC system
21:27 < genr8_> get your clone game up
21:27 < genr8_> this is common
21:27 < StrongBad> it required a parallel port for this license dongle shit it has, which I get to fuck with next
21:27 < xtensive> interesting that it is running windows StrongBad
21:28 < xtensive> holy shit, parallel port ... dongle that is old
21:28 < xtensive> is it win 95/98?
21:29 < genr8_> Dont you have any other cloning program ? Larger to Smaller
21:29 < genr8_> ah apparently in clonezilla they do have it 5. Choose EXPERT mode and enable the “-icds” option. You need to also  choose the option"Resize partitional table proportionally" in one of the following menus.
21:32 < genr8_> try using EaseUs Todo Backup Free
21:32 < genr8_> mount the VHD then clone it
21:32 < asimon> Holy hell
21:33 < asimon> I just used Wingdings to accomplish an actual task unironically
21:33 < NSV> How the hell am I supposed to convince my director that I can't be creating websites, managing AD, Print and Image servers, taking random help desk calls, AND disassembling printers to replace ITB drive assemblies? If I hear "It's part of IT's job" I am gonna smack someone.
21:33 < pcspkr> why not
21:33 < genr8_> ugh. i burned a pot. forgot.
21:34 < xtensive> supposedly there is a vhd2disk too StrongBad
21:34 < genr8_> he couldnt find it lol
21:34 < xtensive> https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/b50c30c6-2c2f-41e7-9d5e-305e8507bc7b/vhd2disk?forum=disk2vhd
21:34 < ebol4> NSV: start telling people you're busy, and if they complain, point them to director
21:34 < genr8_> i linked him to the source cod ebut he didnt wanna compile it
21:34 < ebol4> miss deadlines
21:34 < asimon> NSV: There was a decent SO thread on that exact topic a while back. The answer was pretty much ask them which tasks to prioritize, and to let the others slip because you only have so many hours
21:34 < genr8_> u want me to compile it for you ?
21:35 < asimon> When they ask about it you say that you prioritized the things they wanted, and that you need more help if they want the other things done too
21:35 < NSV> ebol4: been doing that for a while. My most recent web form is behind 3 weeks now. Literally just had a conversation with a dept. head that I can't staff for high volume.
21:36 < ebol4> welp. they'll either get the message eventually or they'll put their head in the sand and fire you
21:36 < ebol4> and then they'll fire the next guy
21:36 < ebol4> until eventually someone figures something out
21:36 < NSV> ebol4: Given my director has the IT comprehension of my grandma, I am thinking it will be the latter.
21:37 < StrongBad> thanks xtensive and genr8_
21:37 < StrongBad> ultimately clonezilla without GRUB checked worked
21:37 < StrongBad> IDK why sysinternals got rid of their vhd2disk tool
21:38 <@cryptic1> it was too good
21:38 <@cryptic1> everything good gets cancelled
21:39 < tenthshift> cryptic1 truth
21:39 < genr8_> Just compiled it: https://puu.sh/ARt99/20af93c65c.png
21:39 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 9,675 bytes
21:41 < genr8_> rename this to .exe : https://a.uguu.se/PAMowfq1BJwn_VH2DISK
21:41 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  APPLICATION/OCTET-STREAM Document, 82,944 bytes
21:42 < estranger> s/it was too good/tenthshift: get back to work/
21:42 <+layer-eight> [SED estranger/cryptic1] tenthshift: get back to work
21:42 < estranger> s/it was too good/StrongBad: get back to work/
21:42 <+layer-eight> [SED estranger/cryptic1] StrongBad: get back to work
21:43 < tenthshift> hey does layer-eight have a reasonable sed input length limit?
21:44 < estranger> s/it was too good/tenthshift: get back to worksdklfjasdflkjasdflksajdfklajdsflkjasd sdlfkjsdkl; fasdf jasdf jsadf jkasdf kljsdf sdf sadf asd fsdf sadf asd fasd fa sdf asdf asd fasd fsad sad fsad fsad fsd f sdaf asdf asdf sadf sad fasd f/
21:44 <+layer-eight> [SED estranger/cryptic1] tenthshift: get back to worksdklfjasdflkjasdflksajdfklajdsflkjasd sdlfkjsdkl; fasdf jasdf jsadf jkasdf kljsdf sdf sadf asd fsdf sadf asd fasd fa sdf asdf asd fasd fsad sad fsad fsad fsd f sdaf asdf asdf sadf sad fasd f
21:44 < tenthshift> by eyeball, that looks like the limit for 1 IRC message
21:44 < tenthshift> and I'm guessing it's set to not spam messages
21:44 < tenthshift> so that's good
21:45 < estranger> aaa aaa aaa
21:45 < estranger> s/aaa/aaa aaa aa aaa aaa aaa aaa aaa aaa/g
21:45 < tenthshift> we can't get it klined for flooding
21:45 < estranger> it sucks
21:46 < tenthshift> you know what else sucks
21:46 < estranger> Megamaid
21:46 < tenthshift> Spectrum Communications
21:46 < tenthshift> maybe
21:46 < tenthshift> tbf it could just be my shitty phone system
21:46 < estranger> she's gone from suck to blow
21:46 < tenthshift> but they replaced my phone modem after a lightning induced power surge last week
21:47 < tenthshift> and ever since, customers randomly get busy signals when calling our main #
21:47 < tenthshift> despite plenty of lines open
21:48 < tenthshift> I think they fucked up something during provisioning but I don't know enough about old timey analog-connection-thru-cable-modem phone systems to really say
21:48 < MikeSpears> Yes.
21:53 < tenthshift> MikeSpears, what's the verbiage I should use when trying to convince Spectrum that it's their problem and not my ancient-ass PBX?
21:53 < MikeSpears> no idea
21:53 < abakedapplepie> "my configuration has not changed"
21:53 < tenthshift> abakedapplepie, that's a good standard
21:53 < MikeSpears> it worked before the modem was swapped
21:54 < tenthshift> I just hate making these calls when it feels like I'm in the dark; usually I know a little something about a thing before I've hit the point where I have to reach out to someone
21:54 < MikeSpears> yea makes sense
21:54 < abakedapplepie> tenthshift: its not your job to know the intricacies of isp supplied pots lines
21:54 < abakedapplepie> its just your job to get it working asap
21:54 < abakedapplepie> this is why we have support contracts :)
21:55 < tenthshift> abakedapplepie, truth
21:56 < genr8_> even level 1 can use phones :)
22:03 < JollyRgrs> THE VIOLENCE! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCRUPWDIgYM
22:03 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  YouTube → Stand By Me | Muppet Music Video | The Muppets → ⚘ 14,458,618 ↑ 53,405 ↓ 2,802 ✍ 4,008
22:06 < DomLS3> JollyRgrs: you a hoe
22:09 < JollyRgrs> DomLS3: you's a ho
22:09 < JollyRgrs> HO!
22:09 < JollyRgrs> you can't turn a ho into a housewife
22:10 < JollyRgrs> ho's don't act right
22:12 < rootsudo> like what the fuck '
22:12 < rootsudo> i find a kickass sec hole on o365
22:13 < abakedapplepie> and
22:13 < genr8_> bug bounty it
22:16 < coderphive> Someone ban JollyRgrs pls
22:17 < onenerdyguy> pfft
22:17 < corn266> you can't spell housewife without ho though
22:17 < genr8_> Hotel*
22:17 < onenerdyguy> why would you want to spell housewife without Ho
22:18 < Kobe`> mousewife
22:18 < onenerdyguy> we're not gonna judge you for your needs, but man. no
22:19 < corn266> got some AO mickey mouse goin on in Kobe's house
22:19 < Kobe`> atleast minnies' faithful
22:20 < onenerdyguy> that you know of
22:23 < xamithan> casawife
22:23 < JollyRgrs> Kobe` can't even afford a RL diamond for his minnie
22:24 < JollyRgrs> wife de la casa
22:24 < xtensive> each house has a wife?
22:24 < xtensive> that's pretty smart actually
22:24 < xamithan> Que?
22:24 < Kobe`> true i bought her a sapphire
22:24 < corn266> who was on here the other day trying to figure out the word for a single tire bike and called it a uno-cycle
22:24 < corn266> that shit still has me cracking up
22:25 < xtensive> lol
22:25 < JollyRgrs> DRAW FOUR!
22:25 < xtensive> REVERSE
22:25 < xamithan> Isn't what they call it in mexico ?
22:25 < Kobe`> finally hit Diamond 3 last night @JollyRgrs
22:25 < Kobe`> first time
22:25 < JollyRgrs> Kobe`: grats man
22:25 < JollyRgrs> i wish upon you many failed teammtes that drop you down to plat 3
22:25 < JollyRgrs> lol
22:26 < JollyRgrs> that's usually how it happens
22:26 < JollyRgrs> so don't blame me if that is what you get
22:26 < Kobe`> havent dropped down a division yet
22:26 < Kobe`> luckily
22:38 < coderphive> corn266 is a housewife
22:38 < coderphive> That's 100% a fact
22:38 < Sousapro> I just looked at the discord
22:39  * Sousapro hyperventilates into brown paper bag
22:39 < coderphive> There's a discord?
22:39 < Sousapro> yeah
22:39 < Sousapro> it's exactly what you would expect
22:40 < xtensive> .triggered
22:40 < Sousapro> I guess the biggest part is the sheer number of channels
22:41 < Sousapro> yes, let's split chat into 20 channels
22:41 < Sousapro> I'll give it a try though
22:41 < Sousapro> that was overwhelming tho
22:45 < DomZ06> rekt
22:45 < DomZ06> Now then what
22:46 < DomZ06> lern 2 irc
22:46 < DomZ06> lil bish
22:50 < DomLS3> oh wrong channel
22:53 < corn266> anyone ever work with tensorflow before?
22:54 < estranger> no..id like to play w/ it though
22:54 < corn266> I can't figure out how to read from a tfrecords file into something that's not a tensor
22:54 < JollyRgrs>  DomLS3 looks like you are the one that needs to l2irc
22:54 < JollyRgrs> REKT!
22:54 < DomLS3> truth
22:54 < JollyRgrs> lik bish
22:54 < corn266> estranger, I'd suggest pytorch over tensorflow
22:55 < estranger> tensorflow is more on the model making side vs the processing side right?
22:55 < estranger> corn266, im a spark mllib guy currently
22:55 < estranger> but I think you can use ts to make models for spark to process
22:56 < estranger> er tf
22:56 < corn266> ah I hadn't heard of MLlib before, might look into it later
22:57 < estranger> its the ML pipeline for Apache Spark
22:59 < estranger> if you havent used spark... i think it's a great and profitable skill to learn.
22:59 < corn266> It doesn't need to be set up on a cluster, does it?
22:59 < onenerdyguy> so, am I crazy for wanting to deploy LXD in prod instead of Docker for my dev team?
22:59 < estranger> you can run a single node but it's designed to be clustered and scale out to INFINITY AND BEYOOOOND
23:00 < alazare619> who heer uses cacti
23:00 < alazare619> can it monitor windows servers?
23:00 < onenerdyguy> alazare619, god no. use Grafana
23:01 < officerrando> cacti is just snmp. it monitors anything snmp
23:01 < estranger> cacti doesnt monitor anything persay it just builds graphs
23:01 < estranger> you can write plugs to monitor whatever
23:01 < onenerdyguy> alazare619, what are you trying to monitor?
23:01 < alazare619> onenerdyguy: just looking for something to monitor a few services on a windows server
23:01 < alazare619> must run in docker
23:01 < alazare619> be opensource
23:01 < officerrando> anyone have a suggestion to test a hard drive? It's an NVMe hard drive. Occasionally SUUUUUPER slow
23:02 < onenerdyguy> alazare619, that can be nearly anything. Zabbix. Telegraf. Check_mk, you name it
23:02 < officerrando> like, searching the start menu slow, opening office apps, slow
23:02 < onenerdyguy> alazare619, personally, I do Check_MK
23:02 < alazare619> whats check_mk?
23:02 < onenerdyguy> https://hub.docker.com/r/uvwxy/checkmk/
23:02 < Jekotia> officerrando: I'm confused by "nvme" and "hard drive" being in the same sentence. They typically refer to dramatically different storage technologies.
23:02 < onenerdyguy> alazare619, it's Nagios, without the shitty parts.
23:02 < onenerdyguy> Jekotia, replace hard drive with 'storage device'
23:03  * officerrando sighs
23:03 < genr8_> officerrando: you should try to get a baseline performance readout with either CrystalDiskInfo or ATTO or AS-SSD or whatevers fun these days
23:03 < Jekotia> Okay. Thought maybe it was another one of those sounds-great-but-is-kinda-shitty hybrid devices
23:03 < alazare619> onenerdyguy: never used nagios do you just install an agent and its off to the races?
23:03 < officerrando> do we not just colloquially call them hard drives any more?
23:03 < genr8_> NVME SSD kinda is special
23:03 < officerrando> nagios is a lot of work to set up right. be prepared to read old docs
23:03 < genr8_> i wouldnt call that a hard drive, no
23:04 < onenerdyguy> officerrando, thats where Check_MK comes in, does all taht crap for ya
23:04 < officerrando> OK. so how can i test this thingy that stuff is stored on?
23:04 < officerrando> it's randomly very laggy.
23:05 < officerrando> but winsat disk pulls 1800 MB/s read speeds.
23:05 < onenerdyguy> so yeah, Anyone use LXD in prod?
23:06 < genr8_> officerrando: i dont know any one sentence answers to "how do i check why my SSD is slow when Sequentials go 1800MB/s
23:06 < Jekotia> officerrando: Hard drive is generally colloquilism for hard disk, which is a specific category of devices. NVME is a solid state storage technology. I genuinely do not see how those terms could ever been considered interchangable, short of another storage "revolution" rendering nvme obselete by 5+ generations of storage tech
23:06 < estranger> no, why arent people just using docker/k8s if they are going the container route like everyone else is? =)
23:06 < JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcJFdCmN98s jammin out to a fav tune
23:06 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  YouTube → OH MY DAYUM - NOW ON iTUNES !!! → ⚘ 35,776,828 ↑ 467,419 ↓ 6,144 ✍ 52,395
23:06 < officerrando> Jekotia: i've been in it for 25 years. IT people just wanting to be pedantic
23:07 < Jekotia> officerrando: Fair enough. I would have been 1 when you started xD
23:07 < officerrando> genr8_: right. that's what I'm running into.
23:08 < officerrando> going to try and replace the driver on it. looks like it's using an MS driver. *shrug*
23:08 < genr8_> what drive is, it, samsung ?
23:08 < genr8_> the Samsung NVME driver is preferable to the MS one
23:08 < genr8_> thats all i know how to do.
23:08 < genr8_> change driver, wipe disk, hope for the best
23:09 < officerrando> it's a lite-on
23:09 < officerrando> dell OEM
23:09 < officerrando> http://www.liteonssd.com/en/PRODUCT/client-sata-ssd/cx2-series.html
23:09 <+layer-eight> * officerrando →  CX2 NVMe Series
23:10 < JollyRgrs> lite-on makes NVME drives now?
23:10 < genr8_> that doesnt bode well. not something i would trust for performance or to not lag
23:10 < officerrando> tempted to clone the thing to an EVO 860, but I don't want to blow $200 for nothing
23:10 < JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfbQ4gww7aI&list=PL8JttaK4Km_F3aG0rLfmykiybHDXU1wMY so... there's a whole playlist of covers of this song now... lol
23:10 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  YouTube → Playlist: Dayum Covers → 9 videos → OH MY DAYUM cover ft. Stephon LaMar → ⚘ 1,343,458 ↑ 21,078 ↓ 912 ✍ 2,362
23:10 < Jekotia> genr8_: Why wipe? Does the usability of the data depend on matching the driver the drive was initialised with? o.O
23:10 < Jekotia> (has no nvme ssd experience)
23:10 < genr8_> no, the drive will auto assign sectors based on what has been written before, to wear level
23:11 < genr8_> and that can go haywire and get the drive into a state where its slower than when it was new
23:11 < Jekotia> Ah
23:11 < rootsudo> woohoo
23:11 < rootsudo> I'm getting reimbursed for a flight
23:11 < genr8_> to reset it to factory you'd wanna Write 0's to it, or factory secure erase it or something
23:11 < rootsudo> that is great because I was going to buy it anyway
23:11 < genr8_> it used to be a big problem on the 840 evo i believe
23:12 < genr8_> the firmware had some bug and they tried to fix it, but those drives would just get slowed down.... from normal use
23:12 < genr8_> officerrando: this company makes some cool diagnostic tools http://www.resplendence.com/whysoslow
23:12 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  Resplendence Software - WhySoSlow
23:13 < genr8_> Try WhySoSlow , and LatencyMon
23:13 < genr8_> hard to understand but it may help
23:13 < officerrando> awesome, thx.
23:14 < estranger> so glad i dont have to front my flights
23:14 < officerrando> been troubleshooting an office slowness issue, but then i noticed the start menu search (for msword.exe) was suuuuuuper slow
23:14 < estranger> hotels are bad enough.. although I like the free credit card points
23:15 < corn266> sounds like you need to download some more RAM officerrando
23:17 < officerrando> corn266: i tried, but i hit my megahurtz limit for the month
23:18 < genr8_> whoa the new freenas UI - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km3-qy9k6CE
23:18 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  YouTube → FreeNAS 11.2 Nightly Beta Quick Review Of The New Default UI & Some Feature Changes → ⚘ 314 ↑ 32 ↓ 0 ✍ 5
23:20 < genr8_> looks like they turned it into minimal or material design made for tablets
23:20 < genr8_> biggest gripe about the new "modern design" shit everyones doing is all the wasted whitespace
23:21 < JollyRgrs> looks pretty
23:21 < rootsudo> well, fuck
23:21 < JollyRgrs> genr8_: the idea is that the things that you want have room to "pop out" and you can see it better
23:21 < xtensive> pretty cool
23:23 < JollyRgrs> the menu system was absolute bunk
23:23 < JollyRgrs> glad they changed it
23:23 < joelazot> Good morning!
23:23 < xtensive> still trying to find a cheap chassis for a freenas build
23:23 < JollyRgrs> welp, joelazot is here, time for me to go home
23:23 < JollyRgrs> xtensive: i still need to replace my perc6 with something that can do passthrough
23:23 < genr8_> $100-$200 gets you a good freenas box
23:24 < genr8_> it just needs a lotta sata ports and 8GB of ECC - doesnt have to be all that fast
23:24 < JollyRgrs> genr8_: unless you wanna do dedupe
23:24 < dragonfleas> anybody have any recommendations for a cheap SAN for my homelab?
23:24 < JollyRgrs> then you need like 1tb of ram :P
23:24 < genr8_> mmmm well it gets you into the door of freenas, and then you would learn what you need to ugprade
23:25 < JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: yes
23:25 < dragonfleas> JollyRgrs, go on
23:25 < JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: well, you said you wanted a SAN, not a NAS
23:25 < JollyRgrs> i dunno if FreeSAN exists
23:25 < dragonfleas> yeah
23:25 < dragonfleas> i want a san
23:26 < genr8_> dont think we're there yet. gotta buy some enterprises old used crap
23:27 < joelazot> JollyRgrs:ello
23:27 < genr8_> you look up "Cheap SAN" on google and you get $599 synology devices
23:27 < genr8_> thats what the normies do
23:27 < xtensive> 100-200 for a freenas box genr8_ ?  Like for just the chassis, maybe a power supply?
23:28 < xtensive> no MB,RAM etc
23:28 < genr8_> no, even that.
23:28 < xtensive> show me your ways
23:29 < xtensive> every time I search I end up with close to a grand of parts (inc HD's)
23:29 < Jekotia> Jesus, Google. I searched for "alternatives to release-monitoring.org" (not actually in quotes) and the first result is "Alternatives to detention in Canada - International Detention Coalition" :|
23:30 < genr8_> xtensive: this, for one. https://puu.sh/ARwDc/341d8fcb00.png
23:30 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 166,764 bytes
23:30 < joelazot> i had to explain to my teacher that redhat is not a programming language
23:30 < joelazot> help
23:30 < joelazot> kill me
23:31 < genr8_> I'd go for a dell poweredge 310, or 410, or 320 or 420.
23:31 < Jekotia> joelazot: A plague strain has been tailored to your DNA and released into the wild. Please wait 1-365 days for it to reach you.
23:31 < xtensive> ah, ya I going for actual NAS box with hot swap bays, etc.  Probably over kill tho
23:31 < genr8_> the more "industrial" the chassis looks the more its gonna cost
23:33 < genr8_> i mean you'd need a rack for rackmount
23:33 < enix> I just felt like such a creep reading what you guys are saying without saying good morning...
23:34 < genr8_> morning
23:35 < Holo> enix pls, sooo many of us lurk
23:35 < genr8_> as long as you can get into the case, you dont really need the hotswap bays
23:36 < genr8_> usually they're accessible individualy
23:36 < genr8_> or look up PowerEdge 2950. that can work.
23:37 < genr8_> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-2950-36GB-HD-Server-Dual-Power-Intel-Xeon/223012901002
23:37 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  Dell PowerEdge 2950 36GB HD Server Dual Power Intel Xeon 201427302269 | eBay
23:37 < joelazot> if you don't care about your power bill
23:37 < joelazot> that is
23:37 < enix> Netflix Australia's licensing agreements are finally beginning to expire. This means that a swathe of movies and TV shows are being unceremoniously dumped from the service each month.
23:38 < genr8_> Then u got a good ol R710 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-R710-Virtualization-Server-X5550-2-6GHz-8-Cores-24gb-2x-146GB-15k/232797508099
23:38 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  Dell PowerEdge R710 Virtualization Server X5550 2.6GHz 8-Cores 24gb 2x 146GB 15k  | eBay
23:38 < enix> wow thats cheap
23:38 < alazare619> http://www.dailyinfographic.com/bees-vs-wasps-who-brings-the-sting
23:38 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  Bees vs. Wasps: Who Brings The Sting? | Daily Infographic
23:38 < genr8_> i thought so too
23:39 < xtensive> lol genr8_ we still have R710's in PROD
23:39 < xtensive> $150 unreal
23:40 < alazare619> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/HfYrJhGn/image.png
23:40 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 2,385,243 bytes
23:47 < genr8_> Then theres this idea: https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-HPE-DL380-Gen9-HYPER-CONVERGED-380-24-BAY-BAREBONE-SERVER-CASE-W-BACKPLANES/163035907140
23:47 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  HP HPE DL380 Gen9 HYPER CONVERGED 380 24 BAY BAREBONE SERVER CASE W/ BACKPLANES  | eBay
23:48 < xtensive> RIP my electric bill
23:48 < genr8_> so wait
23:48 < genr8_> heres the idea.... use that as a backplane but chop off the rest of the chassis.
23:48 < xtensive> NewEgg has a HD bundle for 4x3TB seagate drives for $370
23:48 < genr8_> attach with SAS cables to a newer machine
23:49 <+CheckYourSix> Seagate... yuck
23:49 < genr8_> cause really you're looking for the hotswap chassis right ?
23:49 <+CheckYourSix> And that's not really that great of a deal
23:49 < genr8_> 3TB seagates should be avoided ;p
23:49 < xtensive> but there is a picture of a wolf on them CheckYourSix
23:50 < genr8_> eh. ymmw. i guess its fine
23:51 < xtensive> Are they really garbage?  I never keep up with hardware stuff
23:53 < joelazot> I need to get some 2nd hand drives ugh
23:53 < genr8_> depends on if they just slapped a wolf label on it or not
23:53 < genr8_> the 3TB seagate was notoriously bad
23:53 < genr8_> i bet people just arent buying them out of principle and thats why they have a sale
23:53 < xtensive> https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3771131
23:53 <+layer-eight> * xtensive →  Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, LED LCD TV, Digital Cameras and more - Newegg.com
23:54 < genr8_> ST3000VN007 lets see what this produces
23:55 <+TuxedoJack> xtensive: god damn, that's not bad at all
23:55 <+TuxedoJack> Though historically, haven't Seagate 3TBs shit the bed a LOT?
23:55 < Alternity> anything seagate is notoriously bad
23:56 <+TuxedoJack> Not as bad as Deskstars.
23:56 < xtensive> ya I have no idea
23:56 <+TuxedoJack> Or Maxtor.
23:56 < genr8_> seems ok
23:56 < xtensive> OMG MAxtor haven't heard that in a LONG time
23:56 < Alternity> samsung and WD are fine
23:56 <+TuxedoJack> And nothing of value was lost
23:56 < xtensive> I usually go WD in my home builds, but trying to keep the NAS costs down
23:57 < Alternity> i wouldn't risk it personally, but as long as it's like a raid 6
23:57 < genr8_> it does seem considerable better than a consumer drive
23:57 < Alternity> probably fine
23:57 < xtensive> RAID 5 is what I was planning
23:58 < xtensive> this is for non critical shit too, like moooovies, and whatnot
23:58 < Casteil> oh wow re: scott pruitt EPA head resignation, wasn't expecting that at all
23:58 < genr8_> make sure you burn it in when you get it
23:58 < genr8_> if its gonna die its gonna die in the first week
23:58 < genr8_> or hour
23:58 < Alternity> don't the ironwolfs use shingled magnetic recording?
23:58 < xtensive> all my important banking info I store in my aol email account for extra security
23:58 < Alternity> I would not use a drive with SMR
23:58 < genr8_> nope
23:58 < Alternity> if it's mostly reads only probably OK
23:58 < zenmechanic> Casteil: as long as he doesn't come back to oklahoma
23:58 < genr8_> those are the Archive drives
23:59 < xtensive> SMR I have much to learn
23:59 < Casteil> isn't it a bit ironic that this administration's motto is to "drain the swamp"? XD
23:59 < Casteil> I digress
23:59 < Alternity> Casteil: not to surprsingly, he's under 10+ investigations for the past few months
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