--- Log opened Fri Jul 06 00:00:14 2018
--- Day changed Fri Jul 06 2018
00:00 < Alternity> i expect some damning evidence will come out shortly, why he resigned
00:00 < xtensive> I thought he was up to 15 federal investigations
00:00 < Casteil> Alternity: it's surprising because this administration's moral compass is highly selective in who it scrutinizes
00:01 < Alternity> if you make trump look bad or feel bad you are out
00:01 < Casteil> anyway
00:01 < Casteil> I suspect we're about to get bant
00:01 < Casteil> :D
00:01 < xtensive> well Pruitt was a whole special level of asshole
00:01 < genr8_> should i be concerned about running older hardware on meltdown or spectre vulnerable machines
00:02 < Casteil> we just need a mulligan for the entirety of the last 2 years
00:02 < Alternity> genr8_: depends who has access to do workloads on them
00:02 < Alternity> meltdown is easy to fix, it's just an os patch
00:03 < Holonium> Hello
00:03 < Alternity> spectre v2 not so much
00:03 < Casteil> anyway, buddy's having another bbq get together :D
00:03 < xamithan> If vmware doesn't care about patches why should you :P
00:03 < Alternity> xamithan: ? my esxi boxes are mostly all fully patched for meltdown and spectre
00:03 < rootsudo> I'm going to go eat a teak
00:04 < xtensive> teak?
00:04 < Alternity> it only took as long as it did because intel fucked up their microcode updates
00:04 < rootsudo> steak
00:04 < rootsudo> golden coral
00:04 < Alternity> golden coral?  that's not steak
00:04 < xtensive> god speed rootsudo
00:04 < Alternity> rootsudo of the iron stomach
00:05 < xtensive> really testing out the survival of the fittest thing
00:05 < xamithan> Sure,  only if you are using their latest version 6 or 6.5
00:05 < Alternity> xamithan: why are you not using at least 6.0?
00:05 < blinkingprompt> i use version 420
00:05 < xamithan> I assume the hardware we have won't do newer versions.  Vmware likes to do that
00:05 < blinkingprompt> BRUH
00:06 < Alternity> xamithan: we have 7 year old servers on the suported hardware list for 6.5
00:06 < Alternity> i wouldn't assume
00:06 < xamithan> Well I don't make those decisions so I don't really know
00:06 < xamithan> I just use the stuff
00:06 < Alternity> sounds like your sr sysadmin is just lazy
00:06 < xamithan> Thats me
00:07 < genr8_> im still on like all 32nm cpus :/
00:07 < Alternity> looks like EoL for esxi 5.5 is sept 19, 2018
00:07 < Alternity> time to get testing upgrades :P
00:07 < xtensive> yep, and we still have a bunch of 5.5 D:
00:08 < Alternity> the vcsa with html5 is pretty solid
00:08 < xtensive> we even have a lone 5.0 !
00:08 < Alternity> time to give up the fat client
00:08 < Alternity> i'd almost say just do a fresh install of esxi 6.7
00:08  * xtensive grips fat client tightly
00:08 < Alternity> and see how it runs
00:09 < xamithan> I'd be fine with the fat if it worked on nix
00:09 < Alternity>  i use the html5 web client for 99% of tasks
00:09 < Alternity> unfortunately a few things still require the flash client, like licensing
00:09 < xtensive> I always end up going back to it when flash breaks something in an update or chrome breaks something, or the moon aligns a certain way
00:10 < xtensive> at least to get console access
00:10 < Alternity> veeam has updated with 6.7 support, only thing that was holding us back from upgrading
00:12 <+CheckYourSix> God damn it! This UPS is missing some wires
00:12 < xamithan> Buy some cheap wires from china
00:17 <+CheckYourSix> Gotta find them first
00:18 <+CheckYourSix> I messaged the seller
00:27 < joelazot> PARTYS OVER BOYS RETARDS BACK
00:27 < xtensive> o/
00:35 < Jekotia> joelazot: Did your plague strain reach you yet?
00:44  * enix downloads plague
00:45 < Jekotia> enix: Go ahead, that's how it kills joelazot. It's tailored to his DNA so it spreads harmlessly, until it reaches him.
00:45 < Jekotia> (user requested to be killed)
00:51 < admiralspark> damn
00:51 < admiralspark> python kicking my ass again
00:52 < admiralspark> using docopt to pass data into my scripts, works beautifully on windows, but a venv on a linux host sees the () and bash shits itself
00:52 < admiralspark> escaping seems to make no difference either...
00:53 < admiralspark> -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
00:54 < xamithan> Why you running a python script in bash ? O.o
00:56 < rpifan> hi
00:56 <@killdash9> a python script in bash? Are you my Chef config management team?
01:02 < rpifan> no
01:02 < rpifan> ugh
01:02 < rpifan> why do we have so many fucken tools
01:02 < rpifan> lets standarized on ansible
01:05 < genr8_> might happen
01:06 < genr8_> rpifan: how u gettin to bisco - u got a ticket? u got a ride?
01:07 < rpifan> im gonna volunteer with a chese company
01:08 < rpifan> no ride yet
01:08 < rpifan> need to confirm my volutneer status
01:08 < rpifan> genr8_, what drugs u do
01:09 < StrongBad> anyone know if you can get a keyspan/serial port working in a hyperv VM?
01:09 < StrongBad> I have a parallel port key I need to make some software work
01:09 < JollyRgrs> what version hyper-v?
01:09 < JollyRgrs> 2012 or 2016?
01:09 < JollyRgrs> i wanna say 2016 should be possible
01:09 < JollyRgrs> maybe maybe not on 2012
01:11 < OdysseyRS> Is anyone able to help me with an SSRS issue? Exporting column charts to PDF are different to Word and Excel. The bars are very skinny.
01:14 < Holo> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/fRkAAOSwtnpXk4TN/s-l1600.jpg
01:14 <+layer-eight> * Holo →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 290,454 bytes
01:14 < Holo> might buy because of cat
01:17 < jay-ros> What uuuuup
01:17 < jay-ros> mother truckers!
01:18 < admiralspark> xamithan: subprocess for....fucking reasons I guess
01:18 < JollyRgrs> i kinda wish my r710 was 2.5... but then again... i already had a bunch of 3.5
01:19 < admiralspark> fuck it, I'm rewriting this and getting rid of the subprocess bs
01:26 < admiralspark> oh
01:26 < admiralspark> works fine in Windows.
01:27 < admiralspark> *shrug*
01:29 < MillerBOSS> HI GUYS!!!
01:52 < jay-ros> Hi MillerBOSS
01:52 < jay-ros> How are you my friend
01:53 < MillerBOSS> Whats going on in jay-ros' land?
01:54 <+DrGibby|> any cisco voice folks around?
01:54 < darkscrypt> Holo: cat used to show scale
01:55 < Holo> lol
01:56 < jay-ros> MillerBOSS, citrix. Kill me.
01:56 < MillerBOSS> Whats Citrix doing to you this time?
01:56 <+DrGibby|> existing
01:57 < jay-ros> It's gone to breaking point. I'm rebuilding the entire thing... again
01:57 < jay-ros> this time, buiding a new storefront and studio, building new servers, reconfiguring the load balancer to point to the new servers
01:57 < MillerBOSS> Then you get to learn it by heart this time, YAH!
01:57 < jay-ros> new group policies. If this doesn't work, we're going to remove it and find a different solution
01:58 < jay-ros> Oh yeah, but the issue with it is I'm spending too much time jumping in and maintaining it, rebuilding parts of it to keep it alive, and we're running LTSR so it should have a bit of a 'set and forget'
01:58 < jay-ros> instead of rebooting the servers live to get one person logged in again
01:58 < MillerBOSS> Something keep breaking err what?
01:59 < jay-ros> login sessions keep failing
01:59 < MillerBOSS> DNS?
01:59 < jay-ros> hanging services on logoff stop other users logging in, ghost sessions fail
01:59 < MillerBOSS> :O
02:00 < jay-ros> it is what it is. Just need to get it set up so it logs users off correctly, then I can go do something else.
02:01 < jay-ros> I'm off to the data center monday morning to cable up the new VLANs for our active clustered LUNs on Purestorage
02:01 < jay-ros> that'll be sweet - redundancy on the volume for SQL servers, servers installed on both sides so if one site goes down the other one picks up the slack
02:01 < MillerBOSS> I am sure you will figure it out and learn some things in the process right?
02:02 < jay-ros> Oh yeah, this is all more info in my pocket, I'm loving it
02:02 < jay-ros> but it slowed down my time researching configuring the networking for the new cabling, so I needed to send that to our 'external help' guy
02:03 < jay-ros> just to make sure that the project kept on track; there's stages of it which are haulted due to this issue taking up my time
02:03 < enix> I need monitoring that ties into some ITIL panel, so that change requests action dates are listed as 'events' on a graphs timeline
02:03 < enix> Not for any reason; i just reckon it would be cool
02:04 < jay-ros> hmm... that sounds very customised
02:04 < enix> Imagine if all these 'integrated solutions' actually offered something that integrated everything together like that
02:04  * enix wishes he had the brain for it
02:05 < MillerBOSS> enix 👉 Zapier
02:06 < jay-ros> so MillerBOSS, it's pretty much Network config > cabling > clustered LUNs > SQL database servers (2017) set up > migrate 2008 SQL databases > decomission old sql 2008 databases > decomission VMWare server infra
02:06 < MillerBOSS> That doesn't sound so bad
02:06 < jay-ros> then nothing left on the VMWare infrastructure, and everything running on hyperv
02:06 < jay-ros> but needs to keep moving forwards
02:06 < MillerBOSS> Oh, moving away from vSphere?
02:06 < jay-ros> yep
02:07 < jay-ros> no idea what I'm doing with the hardware, probably rebuild into a HyperV dumping ground for archived data
02:07 < jay-ros> it's serious kit, but old serious kit.
02:10 < jay-ros> worst thing is, I've got 60tb on the new kit, so the old stuff is pretty useless.
02:11 < MillerBOSS> Wow
02:11 < jay-ros> well, it's 60tb, but it's virtual compressed data. As it expands, the disk write speed slows down
02:12 < jay-ros> it's only using 10tb at the moment on both side
02:17 < MillerBOSS> Yeah you got a lot going on there for sure
02:17 < jay-ros> Oh yeah, it's super fun
02:17 < jay-ros> always moving forward, lots to do. I'm pushing the new guy to do stuff as well. A little slow, but I'm kind of working aroun the edges of his work to get other things done
02:18 < jay-ros> it's difficult on that level, because I am so accustomed to making big changes with lots of research, and I'm offloading single tasks to him which would take me an hour, but takes him a day and a half
02:19 < AustinS> so im going with iRedMail Pro i think.. last call if anyone has better suggestions P
02:19 < AustinS> :P*
02:20 < jay-ros> AustinS - go for it
02:21 < AustinS> was happy to see it had a basic API too
02:21 < AustinS> cause i had already migrated all our existing shit into a DB to clean itup
02:21 < enix> wish dd gave a progress bar
02:21 < AustinS> dd ... status=progress
02:22 < AustinS> or progress=status.. i think its the first tho
02:22 < AustinS> unless youre on a mac not sure if that one has it
02:23 < enix> who the fuck uses mac
02:23 <+DrGibby|> :O
02:23 < jay-ros> enix++
02:23 <+DrGibby|> COOL PEOPLE DO, OK ENIX
02:23 <+DrGibby|> AND SOME NOT COOL PEOPLE TOO
02:23 < jay-ros> I've got two people who use mac
02:23 < jay-ros> one of them doesn't use it for work anymore
02:23 < enix> DrGibby|: I was wondering why your IP comes up as starbucks
02:23 < jay-ros> the other does web and graphic design.
02:23 <+DrGibby|> on, in a corp environment? yeah fuck that.
02:24 <+DrGibby|> enix: please, I like my latte a very specific way
02:24 < enix> with 60% sugar?
02:24 <+DrGibby|> 90%
02:24 <+DrGibby|> those numbers are pedestrian
02:24 < AustinS> mine comes up as wrasslin ;P
02:24 <+DrGibby|> gotta pump up those numbers, enix
02:25  * DrGibby| beats his chest
02:27 < enix> sontar, ha! sontar, ha!
02:29 < enix> omg i need more gems
02:31 < admiralspark> is it 5 yet
02:31 < admiralspark> damnit
02:31 < enix> for potato gems I'll tell you
02:32 < admiralspark> DrGibby|: cisco voice?
02:32 < admiralspark> enix: hahaha
02:32 < admiralspark> spoiler: not yet
02:33 < enix> I think my sleeping drugs are still running rampant on my system :(
02:35 <+DrGibby|> admiralspark: yes
02:37 < admiralspark> I used to be That Guy. Maybe I can help?
02:37 < admiralspark> licensing? h323 <> SIP? Skinny being a bastard still?
02:40 < joelazot> hello
02:42 <+DrGibby|> oh shit can I pm you?
02:42 <+DrGibby|> admiralspark^^
02:43 < enix> hi joelazot
02:44 < joelazot> enix: how are ya
02:45 <+DrGibby|> I'll buy whoever helps me fix this a case of beer
02:45 < coderphive> Man
02:45 < coderphive> the last jedi either had really bad acting or really bad scripting
02:45 < coderphive> I can't tell
02:46 <+DrGibby|> coderphive: they had to use vb, sadly
02:46 < coderphive> vb?
02:46 < enix> joelazot: I took sleeping tablets last night and today I'm really drowsy
02:46 <+DrGibby|> Visual basic
02:47 <+DrGibby|> The scripting
02:49 < coderphive> lmao
02:49 < coderphive> I hate you
02:49 <+DrGibby|> thats a lie and you know it
02:53 < enix> lol the scripting
02:55 < coderphive> oh god, enix is awake
02:55 <+DrGibby|> yeah :/
02:55 < enix> strugglin
02:59 <+DrGibby|> SOP enix
02:59 <+DrGibby|> always strugglin
03:11  * DrGibby| pokes admiralspark 
03:16 < aName> Buddy of mine is giving me the 'I have a million dollar idea, I just need someone to do all the work' speech
03:17 < aName> And I explained to him that there's much more to even 'just an app' than he thinks, and that my company paid 250k for an app to be developed and it's not even very good.
03:18 < MadCamel> sometimes it's simple enough to develop in a few days tho. good ideas don't need to be complicated
03:18 < aName> MadCamel: Sure. But I also don't want to do a bunch of work for free, lol
03:18 < aName> Or make him think I can do UX and graphic design at more than a third grade level
03:19 < MadCamel> ahahaha
03:19 < MadCamel> it's not about the idea anyway it's about the marketing
03:19 < aName> It really is
03:19 < aName> I trade corals and people complain that something isn't worth what people pay
03:19 < aName> when like, that's the definition of what something is worth
03:19 < aName> and it's all marketing
03:20 < xamithan> Tell him to just some dude on fiverr the job
03:20 < aName> lol
03:20 < aName> I like him, though
03:20 < xamithan> Are you saying foreign people at bottom rates don't do good work ?
03:20 < xamithan> Blasphemous
03:21 < aName> xamithan: I didn't say that
03:21 < aName> but I don't disagree
03:21 < JollyRgrs> aName: TRUTHSAYER!
03:22 < MadCamel> I have something I developed that I want to patent, but without paying thousands of dollars..
03:23 < aName> MadCamel: Yeah, patent system is farked
03:23 < MadCamel> :(
03:23 < aName> Not like it'd matter anyway
03:23 < xamithan> Just trademark it instead
03:23 < aName> Patents are specific
03:24 < MadCamel> oh this is a very specific thing that's likely quite patentable
03:25 < MadCamel> I even have a prototype installed in my home heh
03:25 < aName> I'd ask what, but...
03:26 < MadCamel> yeah :(
03:26 < xe0n> sup
03:26 < aName> I dunno, when you decide to say fuck it and open source it, lemme know lol
03:27 < JollyRgrs> opejn source it and sell support
03:39 < aleph-> Heya MadCamel
03:41 <@Nostalg14c> morn
03:41 < aleph-> Heya Nostalg14c
03:41 < jay-ros> Happy Monday :)
03:41 < jay-ros> hi all
03:41 <@Nostalg14c> pardon
03:41 < jay-ros> Friday :P
03:41 < jay-ros> mwoahahaha
03:41  * rpifan learns secrets of stealing alcohol away on a ship
03:42 < jay-ros> rpifan - potentially a pirate
03:42 < jay-ros> s/potentially/
03:42 < jay-ros> s/potentially/.
03:42 <+layer-eight> [SED jay-ros] rpifan - . a pirate
03:45 < rpifan> i am a pirate
03:45 < rpifan> i pirate all day and seed all night
03:45 < desgen> no you're just cancer
03:47 < jay-ros> Hey, does anyone know if it's possible to use SCCM to create different reboot schedules?
03:47 < jay-ros> for windows updates
03:47 <@Nostalg14c> its done via maintenance windows
03:47 <@Nostalg14c> and the deployment of the updates not forcing reboots outside those windows.
03:48 < rpifan> i do like rum too
03:48 < jay-ros>  Nostalg14c nice, I'll take a look, cheers!
03:49 <@Nostalg14c> gf got me sick again, smh.
03:49 < JollyRgrs> and reboot delays
03:49 < desgen> Nostalg14c, suck your what now?
03:49 < jay-ros> Nostalg14c, yeah, mine tried to get me sick too
03:49 < jay-ros> caffiene and nasal spray did the trick
03:49 <@Nostalg14c> lol
03:50 <+DrGibby|> I fucking wish morons on the cisco forums would post how they fixed shit
03:51 < jay-ros> DrGibby|, still no luck?
03:51 <+DrGibby|> I have the same issue as so many people from 2012-current and every thread that matches what I'm experiencing goes fucking answered
03:51 < traaak> howdy all
03:51 <+DrGibby|> or better yet, they say "fixed it" without any clue with how they did
03:51 < jay-ros> hi traaak
03:51 <+DrGibby|> jay-ros: I have audio one way now!
03:51 <+DrGibby|> progress!
03:51 < jay-ros> one step forward!
03:51 <@Nostalg14c> WHAT DID YOU SEE denvercoder69
03:52 <+DrGibby|> I'm hoping I can pick admiralspark's brain a little if he'd like a case of beer
03:52 < desgen> is it true that sysadmins hate everything
03:52 <+DrGibby|> desgen: yes
03:52 < jay-ros> partially
03:52 <+DrGibby|> including you
03:52 < jay-ros> beer, rum, and people leaving us alone
03:52 < desgen> good
03:52 < jay-ros> they're excluded from 'everything'
03:53 < jay-ros> also motorcycles and hyper expensive storage/networking infrastructure
03:53 < desgen> how about fireworks
03:53 < desgen> do those just piss you off?
03:53 < xamithan> Yes
03:53 < jay-ros> dangerous and silly. best left to idiots who don't need hands
03:54 < xamithan> Someone is always shooting at cars or houses
03:54 < desgen> well you need out of that neighborhood
03:54 < desgen> or country
03:54 < desgen> or race
03:54 < jay-ros> hand me a mojito and pop a wheelie whilst jumping over a 3PAR rack, on your way away from me, and we're good
03:55 < xamithan> I'm not leaving the country for something that only happens once a year,  you crazy
03:55 < desgen> no just move to cali
03:55 < desgen> become a homosexual
03:55 < desgen> and join apple
03:55 < desgen> become sysadmin there
03:55 <+DrGibby|> you've got that on lockdown desgen
03:56 < jay-ros> desgen - take an interest in fabrics, own an ironic hawaiian shirt
03:56 < jay-ros> buy clear rimmed glasses and drink cold brew coffee
03:59 < desgen> Indeed
04:09 < xamithan> Sheep
04:18 < enix> I want more potato gems
04:19 < sideup66> no
04:19 < rpifan> bo
04:19 < rpifan> little bo beep
04:19 < rpifan> misspwn,
04:19 < misspwn> y0
04:20 < enix> where hello kitteh
04:22 < xamithan> in japan
04:22 < misspwn> kinda burned a section of my hair with the flat iron. it wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't at the root
04:22 < xamithan> The hello kitty train will be launching soon enix
04:22 < enix> misspwn: i have that problem all the time ay
04:23 < misspwn> you use a flat iron to cure your hair too?
04:23 < misspwn> curl*
04:23 < enix> Yeah. That way I can plat it
04:24 < enix> My missus said she prefers it neat rather than just shaved off complete
04:24 < enix> +ly
04:24 < rpifan> i used to flat iron my hair when i had long hair
04:24 < rpifan> when i had hair
04:24 < enix> That's gay
04:24 < misspwn> he is kinda gay
04:24 < enix> that's kinda the point
04:24 < misspwn> ur kinda the point
04:24 < rpifan> lol
04:24 < JollyRgrs> yeah, i had long hair at one point... super curly/wavy... i did not straighten it
04:25 < misspwn> ah well at least it looks cute if you can ignore the kinda burnt spot at hte top
04:25 < xamithan> curly hair is gross
04:25 < enix> JollyRgrs was a rockstar before he turned 100
04:25 <+DrGibby|> I loved my super curly hair
04:25 < xamithan> so dry, tangled, gets caught in everything
04:25 < enix> you should see him misspwn
04:25 < enix> he made my ovaries burst and I'm a man
04:25 < rpifan> lol
04:27 < misspwn> https://imgur.com/a/B6J7NZw i make my own ovaries burst
04:27 <+layer-eight> * misspwn →  IMGUR Album → a few seconds ago → 1 Image → ⚘ 0
04:27 < misspwn> i know i look good
04:27 < joelazot> hi
04:27 < misspwn> sup joelazot
04:27 < rpifan> u look kinda white
04:27 < misspwn> yeah well, i avoid the sun as much as i can
04:28 < joelazot> misspwn: haven't see you round here
04:28 < Nightcinder> https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/8wdbse/ars_technica_what_ive_learned_from_nearly_three/ TIL people think ubiquiti isn't enterprise because they sell $80 products
04:28 < Nightcinder> wow
04:28 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  Ars Technica - What I’ve learned from nearly three years of enterprise Wi-Fi at home (article) : homelab
04:28 < misspwn> joelazot, i don't usually pop in during the day because i'm usually crazy busy
04:29 < joelazot> misspwn: ah ok
04:29 < joelazot> I am known as the meme teen
04:29 < Nightcinder> i like the 'i'd rather just use meraki' comment
04:29 < Nightcinder> i can't stand using meraki gear
04:29 < rpifan> whats wrong with the sun
04:29 < misspwn> rpifan, omg so today i had a user decide that because they couldn't get a program to work they would go into the network manager and set a static IP and then remove themselves from the domain
04:29 < misspwn> and i was like
04:29 < misspwn> why the fuck would you doooooooooo that
04:29 < rpifan> lol im not sure how that makes sense
04:29 < joelazot> misspwn: they shouldn't be able to access the network manager
04:30 < misspwn> he was like
04:30 < misspwn> joelazot, he has admin
04:30 < misspwn> he thought he was fixing it himself
04:30 < rpifan> y
04:30 < misspwn> cause some people get admin
04:30 < joelazot> oh god
04:30 < rpifan> do they have admin brain powers
04:30 < joelazot> ^
04:30 < xamithan> Why does a person who don't know what they doing have admin?
04:30 < misspwn> because some people are important and dont want to ask us everytime to install something
04:31 < xamithan> Thats cool.  I tell those people I won't fix issues
04:31 < misspwn> lel
04:31 < rpifan> lol
04:31 < xamithan> Not that I do desktop support anyway
04:31 < rpifan> does windows not have a granular admin control
04:32 < xamithan> Not for installing stuff
04:32 < xamithan> Unless you got some enterprise software or some kind of company store with apps
04:33 <@Nostalg14c> granular admin is bit of an oxymoron lol
04:33 <@Nostalg14c> Yes it has ways to delegate some permissions.
04:33 < rpifan> like he can only install programs from 9 am to 3pm
04:33 < rpifan> on M W F
04:34 <@Nostalg14c> lol
04:34 <@Nostalg14c> no.
04:34 < xamithan> Sure,  if you have a script to disable the user account in off-hours ;P
04:34 < Holo> rpifan that would be the best way to fuck with people
04:34 <@Nostalg14c> xamithan: that can be done by default in aduc
04:35 < xamithan> Thats cool.  Ban people from working after-hours
04:35 < misspwn> that would be awesome
04:35 < xamithan> Like south korea does
04:35 < rpifan> thats how it hsould be
04:44 < Casteil> https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/5/17538474/itty-bitty-site-self-contained-websites-urls-open-web neat
04:44 <+layer-eight> * Casteil →  This amazing new web tool lets you create microsites that exist solely as URLs - The Verge
04:46 < enix> https://itty.bitty.site/#/?XQAAAAIVAAAAAAAAAAAhmEpnbzSXdjHwRGreVxT7H08KQigoVieEx//2CcAA
04:46 <+DrGibby|> https://itty.bitty.site/#/?XQAAAAIQAAAAAAAAAAAym4liklqEOwydPh2hANEG/pa2uNH/+QugAA==
04:47 <@Nostalg14c> ughh
04:47 <@Nostalg14c> thats the dumbest shit i've ever seen.
04:47 <@Nostalg14c> God i'm jaded.
04:47 < enix> https://itty.bitty.site/#/?XQAAAAIlAAAAAAAAAAAym4liklqEOwy0hM2K7rJRtt79DXuHs1GWM57DcD2kTGVAwEnx//88XgAA
04:48 < rpifan> misspwn, so whats wrong wtih the sun
04:48 < enix> Trying to think of a use for them in our monitoring panel but I can't
04:48 <+DrGibby|> https://itty.bitty.site/#/?XQAAAAIdAgAAAAAAAAAeHMoGI2cdAfWJ2vAmZPDWNE8RaZovYOziel9rQmdwY0cvAbsbYDI1etTATyWv2qiBGYC0j3nuIlpzpOrEMce7GYEAZLoBkqXMDIrdpSSYOsGSWaYiwAVKYui2cYEsBOkTLl7Y/gEMY5fs1rlAHzjWSsMjZVFF5cbPEPq653F7iCJq55hGJzMWSPa7tfZdTujCvat9ks9Ua6qIA6VvNDgkwyJdrh5WilDfBwNPmya+EtwFUQ28NVv2bM+3cvW3tQKcXaymDBKH6sxsDl2jWgmsXlTxX8ZbKKOWJfqk1tIFdaMcuzF50G993pIW5Kmh7M/9s53bH8r88S9p60CCtsBKUgFBnTCthU3NRipHkKM1yd10ID2XNzyGnp0SD5BdqStL2J3xNReqsQaY
04:48 <+DrGibby|> JEI+rtHUPG+QawYLjpCQBHs2GWlwUXkHfldTvBSq6v/l520yv33WHPdk900UNP3bl3dnZiVtM9zSFe64rO+cM6bdhacy4OIdJD+msV/Z4x+Jx2vphKv/8TSbNg==
04:48 <+DrGibby|> oh my god that link lol
04:48 < jay-ros> the fuck is this shit
04:48 < jay-ros> what have I walked into?
04:48 <+DrGibby|> https://bit.ly/2MRHF56
04:48 <+layer-eight> * DrGibby| →  ⚓  URL Redirected
04:48 < xamithan> Someone being almost k-lined
04:48 <@Nostalg14c> lol
04:48 < enix> JEI+rtHUPG+QawYLjpCQBHs2GWlwUXkHfldTvBSq6v/l520yv33WHPdk900UNP3bl3dnZiVtM9zSFe64rO+cM6bdhacy4OIdJD+msV/Z4x+Jx2vphKv/8TSbNg==
04:48 < enix> https://itty.bitty.site/#/?XQAAAAIdAAAAAAAAAAA1GEuU/QR5TcrhQXXJlAJbZ1rxFvSAP3fhV0HHFDERu6N/+w5gAA==
04:49  * enix is pondering if it's worth a kick for this action he's considering
04:49 < rpifan> yes
04:49 <+DrGibby|> no balls
04:50 <@Nostalg14c> Why stop at a kick
04:50 < enix> https://itty.bitty.site/#Declaration_of_Independence/XQAAAAKpIQAAAAAAAAAeHMqHyTY4PyKmqfkwr6ooCXSIMxPQ7ojYR153HqZD3W+keVdvwyoyd+luwnaiRcjiuchdiItrTj3GakdSAC2h5Vui1gcqEM2PQLYiXfJADT0Zo/FKZyXkaN9rvyg02ZFNHWiIpxk/XGE4TJuljMS3RumWZtAL95ytXMuxDwdUPh3hfn3PgmyPA9otpXSA57i24rE4j4bulNTJcOEVepDPZs/ybHl/uTJ/vE2LWSX53+yWvzN+QAMquWVI1PgwLa7xj5aQgmlzx8Wz4gjrMy2Q59DU7BThR4lfUoR9SUuTPk3m9TIq0HAn/al4AbNPeZMsk+UzV/pKcpMQB+74Z9m8QDab5ppMvFGa8EXhGMbfsoToGUslOPJkFlijDALvZURI
04:50 <@Nostalg14c> when you can aim for a ban.
04:50 < enix> Oh that wasn't too bad
04:50 <+DrGibby|> meh
04:50 <+DrGibby|> lame
04:52 < enix> Huh interesting.. someone created a script that loads random XKCD comics: https://bit.ly/2u5MQXm
04:52 <+layer-eight> * enix →  ⚓  URL Redirected
04:52 < misspwn> rpifan, well much like rain and sun, i melt cause i am so sweet
04:52 < enix> I guess it has a use
04:52 < rpifan> hmm i dont believ ethat
04:53 < misspwn> :)))))
04:55 < Casteil> it's better for mediums that don't show raw urls
04:55 < Casteil> i.e. twitter
04:55 < joelazot> reckon a CCNA, RHCSA & AWS Certified SysOps Administrator – Ascociate is a good start on a career
04:55 < enix> glhf
04:55 < genr8_> yees
04:55 < enix> Are you getting them for free or are you just rich to start with
04:56 < joelazot> enix: not getting them for free lol
04:56 < joelazot> I'll do them in like 3 years maybe
04:56 < joelazot> I really like AWS
04:56 < joelazot> its so cool
04:56 < rpifan> i haTE AWS
04:56 < rpifan> its poo
04:57 < joelazot> y
04:57 < enix> Exam costs: Written exams are $450. Lab exams are $1,600 per attempt
04:57 < rpifan> disgusting
04:57 < rpifan> for aws?
04:57 < joelazot> enix: for aws?
04:57 < enix> nah aws is good
04:57 < joelazot> FUCK THAT
04:57 < enix> joelazot: nah that's for ccna
04:57 < joelazot> WHAT THE FUCK
04:57 < rpifan> i can get a hair transplant for that money
04:57 < rpifan> and so many hookers and blow
04:57 < joelazot> ^
04:57 < rpifan> that i wouldn yneed redhat to make me happy
04:58 < enix> joelazot: it's why i have no creds
04:58 < enix> No company would pay and I'm not paying out of my anus
04:58 < enix> bitch i have rent
04:58 < joelazot> fair enough
05:06 <@Nostalg14c> Any one balls deep with WPA/WPA2 knowledge?
05:07 <@Nostalg14c> well, wpa2-ent
05:07 < enix> once upon a time when i was convinced i could hack it
05:07 < enix> why
05:07 <@Nostalg14c> aka 802.1x
05:07 <@Nostalg14c> So, the WAP provides a cert to the client of the RADIUS box
05:07 <@Nostalg14c> what exactly needs to be on that cert for it to work.
05:08 < genr8_> the hostname has to match or the IP has to be in there
05:08 <+DrGibby|> ^
05:09 <@Nostalg14c> of what.
05:09 <@Nostalg14c> SAN/CN has to match the RADIUS?
05:09 <@Nostalg14c> Which one?
05:09 < enix> s/./?
05:09 <+layer-eight> [SED enix/Nostalg14c] of what?
05:09 <@Nostalg14c> What about the chain of trust, can it be from a public root ca with a random CN but a valid SAN
05:10 < genr8_> if you add it
05:13 < genr8_> the cert would be the CN of the radius server
05:13 < rpifan> no
05:16 < genr8_> Nostalg14c: you said you wanted the DEEP knowledge : https://documentation.meraki.com/MR/Encryption_and_Authentication/Configuring_RADIUS_Authentication_with_WPA2-Enterprise
05:16 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  Configuring RADIUS Authentication with WPA2-Enterprise - Cisco Meraki
05:19 < genr8_> i found this document also https://wiki.geant.org/display/H2eduroam/EAP+Server+Certificate+considerations
05:19 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  EAP Server Certificate considerations - 'How to....' eduroam - GÉANT federated confluence
05:24 < genr8_> this says the same thing in microsoft-ese https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/814394/certificate-requirements-when-you-use-eap-tls-or-peap-with-eap-tls
05:25 <@cryptic1> evening
05:26 < enix> hi cryptic1
05:26 < enix> how are you this fine evening
05:26 <@cryptic1> good you?
05:29 < genr8_> apparently some clients require it in the CN.
05:29 < javi404> so TIL, you can't add voice service to a sim card on T-mobile, even though the sim card has a phone number, and can send and recieve texts.
05:31 < javi404> TIL, you can use a phone you purchased 2nd hand for 3 years on a privoder, but can't sim unlock it without having the original owner do it.
05:31 < javi404> WTF
05:33 < genr8_> just start a new account and get an unlocked sim
05:33 < rpifan> crash bandicoot on switch is hard
05:34 < rpifan> but enjoyable
05:34 < rpifan> which is weird
05:34 < rpifan> its a nice challeneg
06:09 <@Nostalg14c> sorry went mia
06:09 <@Nostalg14c> and just tested all the use cases by generating certs myself anyways
06:09 < rpifan> no
06:09 < rpifan> go hme
06:09 < rpifan> byee yiched
06:10 <@Nostalg14c> genr8_: those ms details are wrong
06:11 <@Nostalg14c> As long as the CN is valid, the cert is trusted.
06:11 <@Nostalg14c> SAN doesn't mean shit.
06:11 <@Nostalg14c> Feelsbadman.
06:11 < rpifan> free bdsm
06:12 < rpifan> https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/BSD
06:12 <+layer-eight> * rpifan →  BSD - Encyclopedia Dramatica
06:12 < rpifan> theres some good stuff in ther
06:14 < rpifan> its like hiv but extra horny
06:25 < enix> rpifan: sfw?
06:27 < genr8_> its quite vulgar
06:27 < genr8_> seems fine as long as theyre not reading closely
06:27 < genr8_> it was pretty funny
06:28 < rpifan> very enjoyable n true
06:28 < rpifan> bsd is for faggots
06:43 < misspwn> rpifan, u like bsd then?
06:44 < rpifan> human pups are leather creatures
06:45 < enix> god i love ed
06:46 < rpifan> no
06:46 < rpifan> ed is bad
06:46 < rpifan> joe is better
06:46 < enix> joe?
06:48 < rpifan> yea
06:53 < rpifan> whats a blue team
06:54 < enix> it's the opponent of red team
06:54 < enix> noone gives a fuck about yellow.
07:03 < rpifan> ?
07:03 < genr8_>  Red team-blue team exercises take their name from their military antecedents. The idea is simple: One group of security pros — a red team — attacks .
07:03 < genr8_> theres a purple team too, not yellow :p
07:04 < genr8_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_team_(computer_security)
07:04 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  Blue team (computer security) - Wikipedia
07:05 < m4221> Hey
07:08 < rpifan> seems stupid
07:11 < rpifan> im not into competition
07:11 < rpifan> did u know thye have human pup competitions
07:17 < enix> ?
07:22 < enix> hi m4221
07:22 < m4221> Hey enix
07:26 < rootsudo> quit a job
07:26 < rootsudo> get hired for 50% more the next week
07:26 < rootsudo> I'm a cliche
07:26 < agent_white> You get the remote settled yet?
07:27 < genr8_> should quit more often
07:29 < agent_white> My interview I was stoked for went... oddly. Went in for a jr sysadmin slot, came out having interviewed for a dev slot (director said he thought I'd fit more in another position they had open). Now I'm confused.
07:31 < genr8_> :/
07:31 < rpifan> bad
07:31 < rpifan> there trying to screw u on money
07:32 < agent_white> Dev slot paid more by 10k or so though.
07:32 < rootsudo> genr8_ I quit for over a year and a half, took a contract job, quit first 90 days, now look at me ma
07:33 < agent_white> No relocation?
07:33 < rpifan> hmmmm
07:33 < rpifan> hmmm
07:36 < agent_white> Now seent a few folks go from looking to landing in the past few weeks here... hopin I'm on the list next.
07:37 < Casteil> agent_white: lol, are you a seasoned developer?
07:37 < genr8_> seasoned? or maybe just a littly salty
07:37 < agent_white> Nope! Neither seasoned sysadmin. Just looking for jr roles.
07:38 < genr8_> whats Under JUNIOR sysadmin?
07:38 < agent_white> genr8_: Nah, salty is saved for when you're hot shit and are whiney. I haven't earned that yet. ;)
07:39 < Casteil> ah
07:39 < Casteil> what kind of development experience do you have?
07:41 < rootsudo> I like karaoke stock photos background
07:41 < rootsudo> Where it's sad songs playing with couples where you see their back
07:41 < agent_white> Professionally? Uh, wrote testing suites for some webdevs, automated a few things (user migrations across platforms, db upkeep, network tools). Not much.
07:42 < Casteil> is it relevant to what you'd be doing at the new place?
07:42 < rootsudo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHFJJKJRols
07:42 < enix> genr8_: helldesk
07:42 <+layer-eight> * rootsudo →  YouTube → ラブ・ストーリーは突然に　（カラオケ）　小田和正 → ⚘ 70,709 ↑ 125 ↓ 12 ✍ 1
07:42 < enix> genr8_: systems engineer
07:42 < enix> genr8_: IT Manager
07:42 < enix> genr8_: The Board
07:42 < enix> genr8_: CTO
07:42 < enix> genr8_: CEO
07:42 < enix> genr8_: genr8_
07:43 < Casteil> I can't lie.. I've got a pretty unique opportunity myself. I think I'm getting greenlit tomorrow to pursue an application rewrite to modernize our in-house sales/service webapp
07:43 < genr8_> too bad we don't have VM snapshots for life
07:43 < genr8_> i know exactly when i'd go back and fork
07:43 < enix> I'd fork you
07:44 < enix> r snapshot too
07:44 < agent_white> Casteil: For this one possible gig, yeup! QA stuff. Unit tests for the embedded devs.
07:44 < Casteil> I've never been a developer on a professional level, but I've dabbled a bit and contributed to our existing application
07:44 < Casteil> which is an asp.net web form application
07:44 < genr8_> i probably shoulda just been a computer programmer all along. now they call it a "dev" to make it sound more trendy
07:45 < rootsudo> Casteil now you may thinki f you work faster you'll look good
07:45 < rootsudo> no
07:45 < Casteil> for the rewrite we're planning on a .net Core 2.x backend with an Angular/Material frontned
07:45 < rootsudo> Work slow, and bill out more time and work remote
07:45 < enix> ^
07:45 < Casteil> s/frontned/frontend
07:45 <+layer-eight> [SED Casteil] for the rewrite we're planning on a .net Core 2.x backend with an Angular/Material frontend
07:45 < rootsudo> I've seen so many people get burned out
07:45 < enix> literally and figuratively
07:45 < rootsudo> they get a project, they don't establish proper scope and work themseleves to death
07:45 < Casteil> rootsudo: I'm not the primary developer
07:46 < rootsudo> Casteil well then you better make friends quick and judge how rational they are
07:46 < rootsudo> fucking fuck devs that are all work and no play
07:46 < enix> oi cunt whistles
07:46 < enix> having a nagios config per domain
07:46 < enix> s/domain/host
07:46 < rootsudo> Introverted no life people who think if they ain't working they ain't valuable and report/snitch
07:46 <+layer-eight> [SED enix] having a nagios config per host
07:46 < enix> best practice or nah?
07:46 < rootsudo> fuc them
07:46 < agent_white> genr8_: What makes a programmer stand out from a sysadmin? Don't most sysadmins-system administrators write code in at least a few languages?
07:46 < genr8_> i lol
07:46 < rootsudo> agent_white no, most sysadmins are dropouts
07:46 < rootsudo> oh sure I know what a variable is
07:47 < rootsudo> what's an if statement
07:47 < rootsudo> el oh el typical burned out sysadmin
07:47 < genr8_> agent_white: from what it sounds youre ahead of the curve
07:47 < rootsudo> but I would say the best place to learn programming is being paid to do job A and use free time to learn. I did that with python and got it okay down in 3 weeks
07:47 < Casteil> agent_white: Eh. I think sysadmins can typically get away with little/no programming
07:47 < Casteil> depends what you're administrating of course
07:47 < rootsudo> Sysadmins just need to know when they're in over their head
07:47 < rootsudo> and to not press the wront button
07:47 < rootsudo> and not to copy/paste stack overflow commands
07:47 < enix> No... you need to learn to press that button like a fucking boss
07:47 < genr8_> :/
07:47 < agent_white> Architecture seems intense though.
07:47 < enix> And play it cool when everything breaks
07:48 < rootsudo> agent_white no it's boring
07:48 < rootsudo> you are in endless meetings
07:48 < rootsudo> talking to people who don't give a fuck and will nod because you sound smart
07:48 < Casteil> agent_white: fyi, don't listen to rootsudo
07:48 < rootsudo> then you're tasked with getting it done if finance approves it and funds it
07:48 < rootsudo> and you go "fuck what am I doing"
07:48 < genr8_> i wish i got in earlier before there was so much idiot-proofing like whatever that "document, act, incident, report," or w/e the phrase is... i forgot.
07:48 < rootsudo> genr8_ thoe are policies and they are shite
07:49 < genr8_> some 4 step thing you gotta do before you do anything
07:49 < rootsudo> That's built in redundancy, at my public sector job we had alot of that
07:49 < rootsudo> it was grea
07:49 < agent_white> genr8_: I know you're being a smartass, but I was asking genuinely.
07:49 < rootsudo> you could skim a day or two of no work by doing a few emails and getting stonewalled waiting for approval
07:49 < genr8_> i dont have a good answer
07:49 < rootsudo> or if you know it was coming, do the work prior to being approved
07:49 < Casteil> agent_white: honestly, this chat fucking sucks if you're looking for developers to speak with
07:49 < enix> I do everything prior to being approved
07:50 < enix> Then I submit changes prior to approval
07:50 < rootsudo> you need to go to #programming which sucks
07:50 < enix> Then I submit my Change Request
07:50 < rootsudo> they're all introverted nerds
07:50 < genr8_> this chat is great for sysadmin tho :)
07:50 < genr8_> oh yea
07:50 < genr8_> totally
07:50 < enix> Oh wait.. the CR goes to myself
07:50 < genr8_> dont go to programming lol
07:50 < enix> Because it's my infrastructure
07:50 < agent_white> Casteil: Nah I'm looking for sysadmins. I'm just in a limbo point where I dunno which to pursue.
07:50 < rootsudo> I'd say troll #python or specific langauge channels
07:50 < enix> Sorry webdevs... you're going to git.
07:50 < Casteil> in the end
07:50 < genr8_> actually python might be worse than programming
07:50 < rootsudo> and put your name as a women like "Laura" or "Linda"
07:50 < Casteil> software development you're likely to end up making more money
07:50 < L3gacy> Hai!
07:50 < Casteil> but software development isn't for everyone
07:50 < enix> rootsudo: or Sarah
07:50 < rootsudo> That's what I do whenever I need an immediate question asked
07:51 < rootsudo> enix exactly, and I want to beleive she worked with tesla
07:51 < enix> Actually agent_white use Sarah then complain that people want core functionality in their phones for free
07:51  * rootsudo is so calling out Sarah
07:51 < genr8_> i got so fed up with the python channel i gave it up.
07:51  * agent_white is outta the loop
07:51 < rootsudo> Well everyone there is a newb who read on reddit learn programming make 80k/yr and are starbucks barista fags who are in bootcamps
07:52 < rootsudo> Though, I will admit, the best programmers I know are women.
07:52 < rootsudo> And I am jealous.
07:52 < rootsudo> Cause it makes me feel like more of a janitor in sysadmin.
07:52 < enix> WORKING HARD TO MAKE A LIVING
07:52 < enix> BRINGING HSELTER FROM THE RAIN
07:52 < enix> FATHERS SON
07:52 < enix> LEFT TO CARRY ON
07:52 < enix> OOOOOOO HES A WORKING CLASS MAN
07:52 < rootsudo> >when you get a girls instagram in less than 5 bars on tinder
07:53 < enix> agent_white: what're you doing?
07:53 < enix> You picking uni subjects or some shit
07:53 <@Nostalg14c> >why are you askin for someones fucking instagrma
07:53 < enix> Nostalg14c: stalking
07:53 < enix> dur
07:53 < rootsudo> Nostalg14c I didn't she said "talking on tinder sucks, add me on insta"
07:53 < rootsudo> and people connect insta to tinder all the time so it's not stalking
07:53 <@Nostalg14c> she wants dem followers
07:53 <@Nostalg14c> ;p
07:53 < enix> Easier to post tits on
07:54 < enix> well no that's snap
07:54 < agent_white> enix: Hm? Nah I dropped out 7 years ago. Figuring out where to go from NOC.
07:54 < Casteil> agent_white: honestly; I see never ending unit test design/setup as a never ending hell kind of job
07:54 < rootsudo> Nostalg14c nah we're going to go do a bike competition somewhere in Japan
07:54 <@Nostalg14c> Whats that
07:54 < enix> agent_white: whats wrong with noc
07:54 < Casteil> I like in-house webapp type stuff; stuff where I don't have to deal with "Customer" end-users, but stuff where I can focus on UX and speed/aesthetics
07:54 < enix> agent_white: just be a nerd and you'll be right. Setup your own mail server, web server, dev environment and CI
07:55 < Casteil> and for that, angular/material is slick as hell :P
07:55 < enix> agent_white: if you're going for linux jobs, $149 get's you a <yourname>@linux.com which helps with applying for jobs
07:55 < rootsudo> enix really
07:55  * rootsudo does that right now
07:55 < enix> rootsudo: yeah I have <myname>@linux.com
07:55 < rootsudo> does it include a free alias
07:55 < enix> You can change it too if it's available
07:55 < rootsudo> or only one
07:55 < rootsudo> nice
07:55 < enix> It's not a mailbox it's a forwarder
07:56 < rootsudo> makes sense
07:56 < rootsudo> still nice
07:56 < rootsudo> I did not know that
07:56 < rootsudo> enix I would give you gold, but I'll give you IRC tin
07:56 < enix> Naw thank you
07:57 < enix> Fun fact... in Australia, very few people apply for jobs using self-hosted email
07:57 < enix> You're in fucking IT and using a gmail/hotmail.. get the fuck out.
07:57 < agent_white> enix: I'm way ahead of you, slap devops anywhere on your resume. Hope you didn't waste your $150.
07:57 < enix> agent_white: double whammy; Linux Devops from agent_white@linux.com
07:57 < enix> Back to my original point.. what do you guys think about having a nagios cfg file per host
07:58 < agent_white> BAM. Add in CI/CE and Containers (put Docker twice, Kubernetes, scrap LXC cause fuk no).
07:58 < agent_white> Ez pz
07:58 < rootsudo> I put devops on my resume and it's crazy
07:58 < Casteil> anyway agent_white, go for what you enjoy or what you think you'll enjoy
07:58 < rootsudo> kubernetes is the new one
07:58 < enix> Nostalg14c: rootsudo Casteil halp
07:58 < rootsudo> I don't even know what the fuck it is
07:58 < enix> I can't decide and i have noone to tlak this over with
07:58 < rootsudo> enix I have no idea so I'll say yeah, that can't backfire
07:58 < enix> :(
07:59 < rootsudo> From google it seems that's the lazy and not good practice way
07:59 < enix> ..really?
07:59 < agent_white> Casteil: Yeah I figured a good middle ground would be automation shit so I could mostly code but work on systems, but those seem to be aimed at a weird limbo between ex-programmers/ex-sysadmins with lots of experience.
08:00 < enix> lmfao 40 servers is considered medium yeah okay buddy
08:00 < rootsudo> just doesn't scale
08:00 < rootsudo> enix if you're not going to be changing the configs often then it's fine AFAIK
08:00 < enix> We're a pretty static environment
08:01 < rootsudo> Do it and get it done then, just document it and put a comment that each server has manual configuration
08:01 < rootsudo> from a template cfg and comment a basic template just in case
08:01 < Casteil> IT guy who replaced me is going to fuck up our entire domain.. I just know it
08:01 < rootsudo> so whoever goes in there/you in an year will remember this conversation
08:02 < enix> I should just quote it to bash.org then post a link in our docs lol
08:02 < jay-ros> I am now a qualified internal network consultant through THE POWERS OF GOOGLE!
08:02 < Casteil> aaaanyway... it's after 2am.. probably going to be a short day tomorrow but I should get to bed regardless :P
08:02 < jay-ros> My email has been sent, so now I can go find myself twenty foot of rope and a low hanging branch :)
08:03 < Casteil> I'm probably hovering around 40h already for the week
08:03 < Casteil> ah, 37.. which means I'm out by 11am! :P
08:03 < enix> jelly
08:03 < enix> todays my thursday because i work odd hours
08:03 < enix> So still a full day of work to go
08:04 < enix> And PFY is not in all that often as of late :(
08:04 < Casteil> not necessarily the case anyway, but if I don't have much going on friday I don't usually stick around to get OT pay
08:04 < jay-ros> enix - where's his head?
08:04 < donut_> wtf i'm going to do with this one superfast coder who can't understand how repositories work...
08:04 < rootsudo> Casteil you mean you don't forge timesheets?
08:04  * rootsudo feels like he's unethical
08:04 < jay-ros> I've been coming in late, staying late, working from home recently, it's strange
08:04 < jay-ros> Casteil, you have timeseets?
08:04 < jay-ros> sheets*, and OT?
08:04 < jay-ros> jesus
08:04 < Casteil> I'm hourly still
08:05 < Casteil> gets a little annoying but I also don't mind getting OT pay
08:05 < jay-ros> I miss overtime, and time in lieu
08:05 < enix> jay-ros: he's not MY PFY unfortunately. I've inherited him. He has a new job and he's doing him so I'm happy for him
08:05 < enix> His heart isn't really in it enough to be a PFY
08:05 < jay-ros> ah righto
08:05 < jay-ros> yeah I spoke with you about mine too
08:05 < jay-ros> no hunger
08:06 < Casteil> huh, @angular packages got downgraded to 6.0.7, they must've broke some shit in 6.0.8
08:06 < agent_white> Casteil: Cheers. Thanks for answering my questions non sarcastically :P
08:06 < enix> ah yeah
08:06 < enix> I'd forgotten about that
08:06 < enix> It's hard to find good pimpleys now a days
08:07 < jay-ros> hahaha yeah, I jumped on the paper notepad this morning and started writing... "this needs to be done, then we can do this, and then this, and then this"
08:07 < Casteil> not sure what to expect in the morning lol
08:07 < jay-ros> layers of one stage after another... to explain why he needed to prioritise the task I'd assigned him
08:07 < Casteil> boss emailed me yesterday asking if I was going to be in tomorrow morning to discuss stuff
08:08 < rootsudo> anyway
08:08 < Casteil> haven't seen him in more than a week; probably getting greenlit on the app rewrite if I had to guess
08:08 < Casteil> although my mind always goes to the dark places first
08:08 < rootsudo> Casteil you're getting fired
08:08 < Casteil> highly unlikely given the conversation I just had with the company owner earlier this week :P
08:10 < CoJaBo> Whelp. Someone did the stupid thing.
08:10 < jay-ros> Casteil, they're giving you a company car
08:10 < Casteil> jay-ros: also highly unlikely
08:10 < jay-ros> Did you forget to reply to an email?
08:11 < Casteil> "Do you want a smart car or the bmw m5?"
08:11 < Casteil> "oh you didn't reply so you got the smart car"
08:11 < Casteil> https://d6ce0no7ktiq.cloudfront.net/images/stickers/509.png
08:11 <+layer-eight> * Casteil →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 39,000 bytes
08:12 < CoJaBo> They don't think he'll lose the finger, but who knows
08:23 < enix> urgh i hate nagios
08:23 < enix> why am i using it
08:24 < agent_white> Band wagons have the best music
08:28 < rootsudo> enix wow it's $49 to become a linux foundation supporter THAN extra
08:28 < enix> what do you mean
08:28 < enix> pm me i'm running out the door
08:28 < enix> home time
08:28 <+ktechmidas> I once got to drive my bosses Audi because it was technically a company car, all the others were out, and it was an emergency
08:29 <+ktechmidas> he rung to ask about a car... slammed on the desk, and said "Fuck it take the Audi, it's insured as a company car"
08:31 < rootsudo> ktechmidas and you trolled him afterwards right
08:34 < xe0n> lol i just got employee of the month
08:34 < xe0n> classic
08:36 <+ktechmidas> rootsudo, of course
08:37 <+ktechmidas> came in with a look on my face of pure terror and tried to explain that I'd *lost* the car
08:37 <+ktechmidas> because he knew I was terrible for losing shit
08:39 < CoJaBo> lol
08:39 < CoJaBo> Someone wrecked the company car here a year or so back
08:40 < rootsudo> lol "hey boss, so that audi is insured riight...?"
08:41 <+ktechmidas> some idiot on a motorcycle did pull out in front of me
08:41 < CoJaBo> It's a POS truck, so nobody really even cared
08:41 <+ktechmidas> luckily the audi had some quite sharp braking
08:41 <+ktechmidas> I was swearing it up though.... like jeez, how often motorcyclists go on about us not seeing them
08:41 < CoJaBo> They also had an even worse disaster of a van that recently got sold off
08:42 <+ktechmidas> then one pulls out right in front of me >.>
08:42 <+ktechmidas> CoJaBo, yeah it's usually a van I'd end up taking
08:42 <+ktechmidas> one of those shitty white ones
08:43 < CoJaBo> ktechmidas: It was so dirty that someone literally wrote "FREE CANDY" on the side. Rip in peace, Candyvan
08:43 <+ktechmidas> classic
08:44 < CoJaBo> The thing would never start, nor would the tires ever stay inflated, so I actually have no idea if it ever got taken out like that
08:44 <+ktechmidas> I was living 5 minutes away from one of our clients once... the contract stipulated I had to arrive in a work-van
08:44 <+ktechmidas> so I had the entirely ridiculous task of driving my normal car into work
08:44 <+ktechmidas> and driving the van back
08:44 < rootsudo> I just don't ask for confirmations
08:44 < rootsudo> I do my own shit man
08:45 <+ktechmidas> I left that place a while ago
08:45 < CoJaBo> Gah. I have to do something basically that stupid everytime I go in
08:45 < CoJaBo> The 2 other people I usually work with don't have cars, so carpool
08:45 <+ktechmidas> they had the nerve to ask what took me so long
08:46 < CoJaBo> But my personal car, the rear seats are decorative lol
08:46 <+ktechmidas> it wasthem that required we go in a work van
08:46 <+ktechmidas> almost strangled the dude
08:46 <+ktechmidas> :P
08:49 < CoJaBo> I get the most insane requests from clients sometime; but it's mostly online work
08:56 < CoJaBo> Also, really mind-blowingly stupid tickets
08:56 < CoJaBo> It's been a while since I've gotten one that stupid tho, weird.
08:59 < R-TypeEman> i had a stupid one a couple weeks ago, facilities screaming that they couldnt contact some building automation box, claiming our network was broken or whatever
09:00 < R-TypeEman> morons didnt even look to see if it was fucking powered on
09:01 < CoJaBo> R-TypeEman: This was the title of the most recent epic one: "new partitions keep containing anime"
09:01 < R-TypeEman> wat
09:02 < CoJaBo> Not so much a stupid customer ticket, as a "customer discovers an incredubly stupid bug" ticket
09:02 < CoJaBo> That one took something like 2 months to sort out
09:04 < R-TypeEman> lmao
09:04 < CoJaBo> The core part of the bug was a cargo-cult pattern I hadn't yet seen before
09:05 < CoJaBo> R-TypeEman: This was the line causing the bug: if( is_invalid($PARTITION_ID) ) { $PARTITION_ID++ }  //insure partition owner valid owner
09:06 < CoJaBo> The good ol’ "if invalid, increment it" pattern.
09:06 < R-TypeEman> haha
09:07 < CoJaBo> It was in the code that handles moves, so it lie dormant for years before someone finally hit it. It usually works fine, because what nutbar moves a file to a place that doesn't exist? But well, that's what was happening; someone's /mnt/completed-anime-torrents partition got deleted out from under them, and trusty ol' deluge kept on dumping stuff into the abyss.
09:28 < MikeSeth> CoJaBo: avin a giggle right ere mate
09:29 < CoJaBo> MikeSeth: I average about one like this once a year or so
09:31 < CoJaBo> MikeSeth: One of the other even more absurd ones: “Uploading a file containing the word "defrost" results in deletion of all files.”
09:31  * MikeSeth vacuums 500gb of data from postgres
09:33 < CoJaBo> Someone tried it under an admin account, and promptly spawned a new ticket for datarecovery
09:35 < MikeSeth> bhahahahahahhahaha
09:35 < MikeSeth> nice
09:40 < CoJaBo> MikeSeth: What's amazing is that the last 3 epicly stupid bugs (I named them; Defrostbug, Animebug, and Incelbug) were all caused in some way by a fricking content filter.
09:40 < CoJaBo> Actually, 4. There's one I'll call Milybug.
09:42 < MikeSeth> where exactly do you work again?
09:43 < CoJaBo> Their main business is hosting, but same place also does service calls. Because that totally makes sense.
09:44 < CoJaBo> Most of the stupid comes from managed hosting.
09:46 < Cihan> if your gpu max. resolution support 1x 3840x2160 or 2x 2560x1440, and if you have dual 4k setup.. could you use daisy chain?
09:48 < CoJaBo> it might be able to mirror at the higher res. dunno if that answers the question tho lol
09:58 < genr8_> https://assets.nagios.com/downloads/nagioscore/docs/nagioscore/3/en/flapping.html
09:59 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  Detection and Handling of State Flapping
10:16 < humpaxx> Heyo
10:16 < humpaxx> Happy friday everyone
10:55 < Hunterkll> cryptic1, Nostalg14c i got a tat
10:55 < Hunterkll> CheckYourSix, ^
10:56 < Hunterkll> enix,
10:57 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, ^
11:00 < MikeSeth> Hunterkll: unkosher/10
11:01 < Hunterkll> lol
11:02 < MikeSeth> tis true, old testament makes this a big no-no
11:02 < MikeSeth> unlike, erm, slavery
11:02 < Hunterkll> bitch
11:02 < Hunterkll> i got a pikachu
11:02 < Hunterkll> pikachu overrides ur old testament
11:03 < MikeSeth> Hunterkll: have you seen Gangnam Style feat. Pikachu?
11:03 < Hunterkll> nope
11:03 < MikeSeth> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcLNteez3c4
11:03 < Hunterkll> soon to pass out
11:03 <+layer-eight> * MikeSeth →  YouTube → PSY (ft. HYUNA) - 오빤 딱 내 스타일 M/V → ⚘ 721,984,346 ↑ 2,011,788 ↓ 462,667 ✍ 372,105
11:03 < MikeSeth> you're welcome
11:03 < Hunterkll> much party in LA
11:03 < Hunterkll> much tattooing
11:03 < Hunterkll> MikeSeth, https://i.imgur.com/mprBStO.jpg
11:03 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMGUR Image → Image/jpeg → 2 minutes ago → 540x960 → ⚘ 1
11:04 < Hunterkll> once i take the bandage off tomorrow and clean off the blood it'll be more yellow lol
11:09 < humpaxx> Hunterkll: thats so badass
11:09 < Hunterkll> humpaxx, PIKAAAA
11:09 < humpaxx> TCHUUUUU
11:09 < Hunterkll> humpaxx, it's even better because i can legitimately say i got it in hollywood
11:10 < Hunterkll> :)
11:10 < humpaxx> Hunterkll: but Pikachu is from japan?
11:10 < Hunterkll> the tat you dummy
11:10 < humpaxx> Cool
11:12 < Hunterkll> 'bout two blocks away from frank sinatra's walk of fame star
11:12 < Hunterkll> lol
11:12 < jumi> morning
11:12 < Hunterkll> jumi, i got a legit tattoo of pikachu in hollywood
11:12 < Hunterkll> :)
11:12 < jumi> why
11:12 < Hunterkll> i always wanted the pikachu
11:12 < jumi> hahaha
11:12 < Hunterkll> but i was here and finally the trifecta happened
11:13 < Hunterkll> need + opportunity + money
11:13 < jumi> well it's nice
11:13 < jumi> I'm not into tattoos
11:13 < jumi> but it's well done
11:13 < Hunterkll> its dark cuz of blood but
11:13 < Hunterkll> tomorrow when i can take the bandage off it'll be more yellow
11:13 < Hunterkll> lol
11:13 < Hunterkll> :D
11:13 < jumi> haha nice
11:14 < Hunterkll> was only like $200
11:19 < MikeSeth> Hunterkll: absolutely haram
11:20 < Hunterkll> MikeSeth, but you're haram
11:22 < humpaxx> Hunterkll: for the tat?
11:22 < humpaxx> Thats cheap for a tattoo isn´t it?
11:22 < Hunterkll> humpaxx, less than $200
11:22 < Hunterkll> well
11:22 < Hunterkll> i paid the dude $220
11:23 < Hunterkll> or something
11:23 < Hunterkll> idk i gave him a wad of $20s
11:23 < humpaxx> Ah
11:23 < humpaxx> Money well spent unless you work in an office wearing khakis and a wifebeater
11:24 < Hunterkll> yea
11:24 < Hunterkll> the placement is good :)
11:24 < humpaxx> I would have put it where tramp stamps usually go
11:24 < humpaxx> And make it look like its jumping over my asscrack
11:25 < Hunterkll> LOL
11:25 < Hunterkll> nahhhh
11:26 < humpaxx> Hunterkll: or this http://www.chocolatesuze.com/wp-content/uploads/images/3089.jpg
11:26 <+layer-eight> * humpaxx →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 32,628 bytes
11:51 < humpaxx> Hunterkll: no?
12:01 < humpaxx> Oh noooooooooooooooooo
12:01 < humpaxx> We got a new number series since we´ve grown to 14 people and now the web people decided that our name and extention should be visible on our website :(
12:07 <+ktechmidas> humpaxx: prepare for the spam
12:07 <+ktechmidas> I had a very annoying sales guy call me every damn month
12:08 <+ktechmidas> wasn't even for business... was some investment firm... first they call me on my mobile, then I change numbers and forget about them
12:08 <+ktechmidas> about a year later the sec tells me I have a call... and I never get calls
12:08 <+ktechmidas> so I'm like 'wtf?'
12:09 <+ktechmidas> Anyway... I play dumb... like "Hi this is blah" "Oh hi, are you a customer of ours?"
12:24 < humpaxx> Im having a moment of stupidity.. Whats wrong with this mysql statement?
12:24 < humpaxx> grant all privileges on 'devdb'.* to 'devdbuser'@'%' identified by 'passwordgoeshere';
12:40 <+ktechmidas> humpaxx: I've been staring at that a while and can't see anything wrong
12:49 < estranger> Did you cut and paste the command into mysql? Could have a weird character
12:51 <+ktechmidas> That's what I was thinking... probably the '
12:55 < L3gacy> morning peeps
12:56 < MikeSeth> humpaxx: I dont think you are supposed to quote the database name
13:16 < estranger> I got a headache already
13:40 < humpaxx> Thanks ktechmidas MikeSeth, not quoting the dbname worked
13:55 < m4221> Hey
14:09 < asimon> Good morning friends
14:11 <@cryptic1> morning
14:14 < onenerdyguy> mornin
14:15 < Atusid> How do you deal with dir not showing all 150k files in a folder? It stops around 55k.
14:15 < onenerdyguy> wtf do you have a dir with 150k files in it for?
14:15 < Atusid> Because sales is an idiot.
14:15 < onenerdyguy> theres your answer, make it better
14:15 < Nightcinder> i might have too much email https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/MLwLO4vs/image.png
14:15 < Atusid> Yeah, wish I had the power to say that.
14:16 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 11,152 bytes
14:16 < onenerdyguy> talk to someone who does. Thats just a mess.
14:16 < Nightcinder> 150k files lol
14:16 < Atusid> I've passed it up my chain, but I doubt they'll say anything other than "just do it"
14:16 < Atusid> (Which is another reason I'm looking to leave already. lol)
14:16 < Nightcinder> tell them 'can't do that capn'
14:16 < onenerdyguy> throw around words like "failure to restore", "ticking time bomb", etc.
14:16 < onenerdyguy> 'limitation of modern technology'
14:16 < Atusid> They've been made aware. xD
14:17 < onenerdyguy> then it sounds like your problem has been solved haha
14:17 < Atusid> And yet I'm still being told to do it.
14:17 < Atusid> I tried to split it in PoSh with a counter. Still waiting to see how that goes.
14:17 < onenerdyguy> nah, thats gonna shite the bed
14:18 < Atusid> I figured, but I don't know what else to do. :)
14:18 < onenerdyguy> burn it to the ground
14:20 < Atusid> onenerdyguy: Too big.
14:20 < onenerdyguy> never too big for fire
14:20 < Atusid> Eh, setting it up would be a pain.
14:20 < onenerdyguy> doing it right usually is
14:20 < Atusid> I'm just leaving.
14:20 < onenerdyguy> well, that works too I guess.
14:21 < Atusid> I've only been here two months... <_<
14:21 < Astr0_Belt> whats up guys.
14:21 < Atusid> Hi Astr0_Belt
14:21 < onenerdyguy> Atusid, well that's gonna look like shite on your resume
14:22 < Atusid> onenerdyguy: Unfortunately I'm going to be removed in a few weeks. I was hired in anticipation of additional contracts being won, and they weren't.
14:22 < onenerdyguy> oh
14:22 < Atusid> My boss politely gave me a little nudge about it last week.
14:22 < Atusid> Unofficial, of course.
14:24 < asimon> Bummer
14:24 <@cryptic1> Atusid, back to work
14:24 <@cryptic1> asimon, back to work
14:24 <@cryptic1> onenerdyguy, back to work
14:24 < asimon> Fuckin
14:24 < Atusid> cryptic1: I'm waiting for a script to finish... same as "I'm compiling!" right?
14:24 < asimon> It's been 15 minutes since I got here
14:24 <@cryptic1> Nightcinder, back to work
14:24 <@cryptic1> Atusid, yeah...
14:24 <@cryptic1> right
14:25 < Atusid> See, then I'm at work. :)
14:25 < onenerdyguy> cryptic1, pfft, it's friday and theres 2 of us in the office. Shitposting is my work
14:25 <@cryptic1> D:
14:26 < Atusid> Sounds like you're striking out, cryptic1 :(
14:29 < asimon> Why are monitors so expensive
14:30 < asimon> All I want is to get this new kid set up with a computer and dual screen docking station
14:30 < asimon> for like $200
14:32 < vinrock> man i love ubnt all over again
14:32 < vinrock> they'll even do an advance rma on little $99 stuff
14:34 < m4221> Can VSS writers be restarted without rebooting the server on which they reside?
14:34 < Nightcinder> asimon: lol our setup is like $400 for the monitors + dock
14:34 < Nightcinder> each monitor is 160, the stand is like 30, and the WD15 is like $180
14:34 < Atusid> m4221: In my experience you can, but I haven't done it in a while.
14:34 < Astr0_Belt> Decommissioned 1 of our 2, windows 2003 servers today. Its been a good day so far.
14:34 < asimon> Nightcinder: How's the WD15? We've been on the TB16's but they can be wonky at times
14:35 < m4221> Atusid: veeam failed because a vss writer acted up again with our old exchange server
14:37 < Nightcinder> we use both
14:37 < Nightcinder> not every laptop we have supports tunnerbol
14:37 < Nightcinder> the wd15's we've had limited issues, every once in a while you gotta replug the usb because the monitor doesn't turn on
14:38 < Nightcinder> i need to get warranty work done on my laptop
14:38 < Nightcinder> i just haven't called
14:38 < Nightcinder> my charging port's broken and the thing has shutdown from overheat 3x
14:39 <+giant_it_burrit> both are wonky sometimes
14:39 <+giant_it_burrit> so infuriating
14:39 < Nightcinder> what's odd is that
14:39 < Nightcinder> i've played battlefield 1 incursions on this laptop
14:39 < Nightcinder> no shutdown
14:39 < Nightcinder> i'll be sitting at my desk and it'll just shut down
14:40 < Nightcinder> The system was shut down due to a critical thermal event.
14:40 < Nightcinder> Shutdown Time = ‎2018‎-‎07‎-‎05T19:35:17.105631500Z
14:40 < Nightcinder> ACPI Thermal Zone = Intel(R) Dynamic Platform Thermal Framework
14:40 < Nightcinder> _CRT = 373K
14:41 < Nightcinder> i can't even call dell right now since our phones are out
14:42 < estranger> Doot doot
14:44 < onenerdyguy> bah, just how I want to start my morning: calling HPE support
14:44 < onenerdyguy> whomp whomp
14:52 < onenerdyguy> So anyone got a suggestion for content filtering in a workplace? We're looking to replace Websense
14:53 <+giant_it_burrit> pfsense
14:53 < Nightcinder> onenerdyguy: i use fortigates
14:54 < kronis> Morning folks
14:55 < asimon> Good morning
14:55 < asimon> Happy 2nd Friday of the week
14:55 < kronis> Not for me, I worked on Wednesday lol
14:55 < onenerdyguy> Nightcinder, will those serve as only content filter, or do they need to be only one
14:55 < asimon> s/2nd/1st
14:55 <+layer-eight> [SED asimon] Happy 1st Friday of the week
14:56 < kronis> Lol
14:56 < Nightcinder> fortigate has a content filter that can be built into the firewall, or they have the forticlient content filter that is more granular based on each user
14:57 < kronis> Question for you folks, I'm curious. Would you rather fly in on a Sunday afternoon to work a full week or fly in Monday morning?
14:57 < estranger> MONDAY
14:58 < estranger> never fly sunday for work
14:58 < asimon> Yeah you can pretty much take Monday off if you fly in then
14:58 < kronis> Give me a why
14:58 < estranger> because work/life balance .. there are times hwere i fly on a sunday but its rare.
14:58 < kronis> I'm curious, I haven't flown in a solid year or two but I always flew in Sunday
14:58 < onenerdyguy> Nightcinder, let me rephrase, we use Sonicwalls for our Routers. Will that play well with Fortigate?
14:58 < Nightcinder> idk
14:58 < Nightcinder> i hate sonicwall
14:58 < onenerdyguy> i agree
14:59 < onenerdyguy> but bossman loves em
14:59 < estranger> its not about what is easier to fly sunday vs monday its about not having to fly on a sunday for work
14:59 < kronis> But yeah, married now, pregnant wife, I'd rather limit my away time.
14:59 < estranger> exactly, sunday is your day
14:59 < Nightcinder> slowly moving stuff from .local to .com
14:59 < Nightcinder> such a pita
14:59 < onenerdyguy> thats always fun
15:00 < kronis> Was thinking about flying in Monday, but worried it's gonna be a way bigger pita
15:00 < estranger> kronis, flying from/to?
15:00 < Nightcinder> i just got our new barracuda archiver running on .com with the wildcard installed
15:00 < kronis> Flying to Nebraska
15:00 < kronis> From dfw
15:00 < onenerdyguy> kronis, i'm sorry
15:00 < kronis> I know, I know.
15:00 < estranger> take the early monday flight
15:01 < estranger> stay home w/ the wife sunday
15:01 < onenerdyguy> dammit wish I could just setup a Squid proxy or something here
15:01 < onenerdyguy> but no, has to be HR friendly
15:01 < estranger> once the baby is born and is a few weeks old you'll want to leave sunday so you can get a nights rest in the hotel :P
15:01 < kronis> Lol
15:01 < estranger> <-- says the guy w/ a 9 week old baby
15:02 < kronis> Well and I'm hourly... Was going to take that early afternoon flight instead of the early morning flight
15:02 < estranger> so youd get more $$ if you flew sunday?  that can change the equation
15:02 < insecurity> i'm having a hard time starting work
15:02 < kronis> That way I can be on the clock until the wife picks me up when she gets off work.
15:02 < insecurity> motivation plz
15:02 < estranger> insecurity, someone else wants your job
15:02 < estranger> for less money
15:02 < kronis> Eh, a little more cash yeah
15:03 < kronis> But ultimately, I think the time is worth more.
15:03 < estranger> kronis, well it comes down to work/life.. is the extra $$ worth being away from home longer
15:03 < estranger> there ya go :) fly monday
15:04 < Nightcinder> anyway
15:04 < Nightcinder> can't sonicwall do content filter?
15:04 < Nightcinder> isn't that the point of those useless devices
15:04 < insecurity> lol sonicwall
15:04 < humpaxx> So how do people feel about ZyXeL?
15:04 < estranger> ie never heard of it so I have no feels
15:05 < onenerdyguy> Nightcinder, it can. it's garbage.
15:05 < onenerdyguy> Nightcinder, like, horrible
15:05 < Nightcinder> yeah but that's the whole point of those devices
15:05 < kronis> Thanks, lol. Yeah it'd be a few hours of OT on Sunday
15:05 < kronis> I dunno, I'll sleep on it I think
15:05 < onenerdyguy> Nightcinder, yeah. but to do it on the sonicwall, I need a bigger sonicwall. and then cost, etc.
15:05 < estranger> kronis, word
15:06 < estranger> i have to fly to lake tahoe next month for a week for work... fucking rough life :<
15:06 < humpaxx> Whats that? is it like G-bay?
15:07 < vinrock> zyxel is an oem provider
15:07 < vinrock> i had one of their omni.net idsn modems back in the day
15:07 < vinrock> pretty sure i seen someone with optimum service with a zyxel modem recently
15:07 < asimon> Does newegg really not allow you to pay by invoice?
15:08 < vinrock> maybe through newegg business
15:08 < asimon> I meant business, yeah
15:08 < vinrock> i would expect they do
15:08 < humpaxx> Someone should make a service where you pay pay with something and then they invoice you
15:08 < asimon> Me too
15:08 < humpaxx> Like, some kind of credit system
15:09 < estranger> maybe in the form of a card that fits in your wallet next to your drives license
15:09 < humpaxx> 1hr 50 minutes until the weekend starts. anyone wanna go fishing?
15:09 < vinrock> yes
15:09 < estranger> id like to eat some fresh fish
15:09 < vinrock> my friends are all being bums
15:10 < vinrock> ive only spent one day fishing so far this year
15:10 < humpaxx> I caught a fish while fishing with my dad back in january
15:11 < vinrock> wat kind
15:11 < estranger> man i need to go back home and hang w/ my friends.. thats the worst part of moving
15:11 < humpaxx> We took a snow scooter and made some holes in the ice and did that fishing with a miniature rod
15:11 < vinrock> ah
15:11 < humpaxx> vinrock: a grouper
15:11 < vinrock> oh nice
15:12 < humpaxx> It was tiny so we let it go again tho :p
15:12 < vinrock> i got a buddy thats killing the trout right now at a local reservoir
15:12 < vinrock> kinda want to go but i hate fishing in the middle of the night
15:12 < vinrock> but trout is delish
15:12 < vinrock> unnnggghhhh
15:12 < Nightcinder> updating my fortigate to 6.0.1
15:13 < estranger> man fresh trout is the best.. on the grill w/ garlic and butter slapped inside
15:14 < vinrock> fuck yeah thats all i do
15:14 < vinrock> gut it, splay it, stuff with some garlic and butter, wrap in foil then spritz with a lemon wedge
15:14 < estranger> yeah man..
15:15 < vinrock> fishing for trout is so boring tho
15:15 < vinrock> i wish bass tasted like trout
15:17 < Astr0_Belt> Hey guys I have a question that I have been scratching my head at for awhile now. I am attempting to retire an old DC, I removed ADDS and the new DC is working fine. But DNS is giving me issues. The new DC has DNS and there is no references to the old DC in DNS or firewall DNS/DHCP. Looking at the DNS.log, the new dc is querying the old one.
15:17 < onenerdyguy> Astr0_Belt, did you transfer all the roles and such?
15:18 < asimon> It's always DNS
15:18 < Astr0_Belt> When the old DC is off or restarted, lookups are failing.
15:18 < Astr0_Belt> yes.
15:18 < onenerdyguy> dumb question, but what are your forwarders set to
15:18 < MikeSeth> Astr0_Belt: betchu you got the old dc set up as a forwarder
15:18 < MikeSeth> either in DNS server top level config or in conditional forwarders or in network interface settings
15:19 < Astr0_Belt> But looking through the old DC dns, I don't see anything.
15:19 < vinrock> this isnt the old dc
15:19 < vinrock> this is the curent dc
15:19 < onenerdyguy> new DC
15:19 < MikeSeth> cause you should be looking in the new dc
15:19 < onenerdyguy> new dc is pointing to old DC as forwarder
15:19 < MikeSeth> it's funny how many of us stepped on this landmine in the past
15:19 < Astr0_Belt> Under conditional forwarders?
15:19 < onenerdyguy> its always dns
15:19 < Astr0_Belt> because there is nothing there.
15:19 < MikeSeth> Astr0_Belt: or in DNS server config
15:19 < onenerdyguy> look at your straight up forwarders
15:19 < onenerdyguy> in dns
15:20 < Astr0_Belt> yep
15:20 < Astr0_Belt> there it is.
15:20 < Astr0_Belt> smh
15:20 < MikeSeth> allahu akbar.
15:20 < vinrock> OWNED
15:20 < MikeSeth> now
15:20 < MikeSeth> how "for awhile" is your awhile
15:20 < humpaxx> We did it guys!
15:20 < Astr0_Belt> Thanks guys.
15:21  * asimon gives thanks for the internet
15:21 < vinrock> praise jesus
15:21 < alazare619> so i have a windows server thats showing 7GB of memory useage
15:21 < alazare619> but its a fresh install and the only apps running take up around 200MB wtf
15:22 <+giant_it_burrit> usage?
15:22 < estranger> leaky leak
15:22 <+giant_it_burrit> whats in perf mon
15:22 < Astr0_Belt> Mike, its been since the start of the week. Some stuff came up and it got put on the back burner.
15:23 < onenerdyguy> alazare619, where are you seeing hte usage. like in task manager, or the hypervisor
15:24 < alazare619> onenerdyguy: in taskmgr
15:24 < alazare619> giant_it_burrit: same as task mgr showing 80 percent useage
15:24 < onenerdyguy> alazare619, well, whats eating up the memory then?
15:24 < alazare619> nothing is listed there as using anything
15:24 < alazare619> adding it all up only shows about 2GB
15:24 < vinrock> run rammap
15:25 < onenerdyguy> and check the performance tab
15:25 < vinrock> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/rammap
15:25 <+layer-eight> * vinrock →  RAMMap - Windows Sysinternals | Microsoft Docs
15:25 <+giant_it_burrit> in resource monitor
15:25 < felda> wassup my dudes
15:25 < vinrock> chillin homie
15:25 < onenerdyguy> felda, you fix your website yet?
15:25 < alazare619> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ex4uLqU6/image.png
15:25 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 24,945 bytes
15:26 < alazare619> theres rammap
15:26 < felda> actually the little pentium I had it on was overheating and running up my electricity bill so it's down again
15:26 < felda> onenerdyguy you missed out on felda.io 2.0
15:26 < onenerdyguy> felda, pfft, get a real server and host it like a man
15:26 <+giant_it_burrit> driver locked
15:26 < alazare619> wtf 6GB to driver locked
15:26 <+giant_it_burrit> yep
15:26 < vinrock> https://superuser.com/questions/1121714/driver-locked-memory-on-a-non-virtual-machine
15:26 <+layer-eight> * vinrock →  Driver locked memory on a non-virtual machine - Super User
15:27 < vinrock> there's a good breakdown to identify the cause
15:27 < hxcsp> felda: your site isnt running yet? COME ON MAN
15:27 < felda> it was you mongs
15:27 < felda> but you all missed it
15:27 < hxcsp> well its not now
15:27 < vinrock> it snot
15:28 < alazare619> oh i bet this is because its set to dynamic memory
15:29 < alazare619> so guesttools/drivers reserves it but its empty,
15:29 <+giant_it_burrit> makes sense
15:29 <+giant_it_burrit> its reserved ahead
15:34 < Astr0_Belt_> I changed the forwarders to the correct IP addresses but it seems to still have issues when its powered off.
15:34 < Astr0_Belt_> Hmm.
15:35 < Astr0_Belt_> really slow lookups.
15:35 < Astr0_Belt_> haha.
15:35 < vinrock> it's timing out somewhere
15:36 < Astr0_Belt_> Now heres a question, I have DNS service installed still on the old DC but it does not have any forward/reverse lookup zones, should it be uninstalled to see if it helps or left alone?
15:38 < MikeSeth> Astr0_Belt_: check your network interface config on the new dc
15:38 < MikeSeth> or run wireshark on the old dc and sniff
15:39 < onenerdyguy> what did you put the new forwarders to
15:39 < onenerdyguy> alazare619, i've never seen Dynamic memory work well
15:39 < alazare619> onenerdyguy: ill have to change it eventually its my tunnel/jump box tho
15:40 < Astr0_Belt_> The new DC's IP and the secondary DC.
15:40 < onenerdyguy> Astr0_Belt_, so you have it forwarding...to itself?
15:40 < onenerdyguy> NO. BAD
15:40 < vinrock> lawl
15:40 < onenerdyguy> Forwarders are for when you *dont* have the answer. Forward off to like OpenDNS or something
15:40 < Astr0_Belt_> it was there to begin with?
15:40 < vinrock> astr0 git gud, damnit
15:41 < Alternity> how are people pushing windows 10 feature updates?  we've used WSUS in the past but it's been kind of inconsistent
15:41 < Alternity> thinking about pushing it with pdq deploy
15:41 < Alternity> though i've also heard of people using MDT
15:41 < onenerdyguy> Alternity, we're doing PDQ, and it's working great
15:42 < Alternity> onenerdyguy:  doing a push or a pull deploy?
15:42 < onenerdyguy> Alternity, literally 0 user interaction. They just get a pop up saying "hey, we're pushing updates, you might be a bit slow" and at the end it says "hey, it's done, reboot sometime buddy". Push deploy.
15:42 < Alternity> and just copying the ISO to a share? setup.exe /auto upgrade /quiet ?
15:42 < onenerdyguy> Alternity, tried pull, but the speed increase was minimal.
15:42 < Alternity> iso files*
15:42 < onenerdyguy> Alternity, something like that. I can pull the package if you'd like. I've got another team doing it now that I set it up and showed em how easy it is
15:42 < Alternity> if you wouldn't mind that would be handy
15:43 < Alternity> it's almost time to push 1803 i think :S
15:43 < Alternity> thankfully this feature update seems to have less issues than the last few
15:43 < asimon> onenerdyguy: I'd like to see that if you don't mind
15:43 < ekaj> when indians ask kindly do the needful, how do they say the needful has been done?
15:43 < Alternity> and users are pretty well trained to deal with the long reboot.  Thankfully entire company is on SSD and most of them on pcie nvme :D
15:43 < Alternity> so it doesn't take THAT long
15:44 < Alternity> been using the updated xps 15.  6 core laptop
15:45 < onenerdyguy> asimon, k, pulling it now
15:48 < Astr0_Belt_> Lol. Okay so lesson learned what DNS forwarding is now. Its been fixed and lookups are 1000times faster.
15:48 < onenerdyguy> asimon, Alternity https://pastebin.com/c3AZXwS6
15:48 <+layer-eight> * onenerdyguy →  Win18703 - Pastebin.com
15:48 < Astr0_Belt_> Thanks for the help, sorry for the stupidity. hahaha.
15:48 < onenerdyguy> Astr0_Belt_, it's always DNS
15:48 < asimon> onenerdyguy: Thank you!
15:48 < humpaxx> Alternity: Theres a 6core XPS now?
15:48 < asimon> +1 onenerdyguy
15:48 < Alternity> cool thanks!
15:48 < Alternity> lol i always forget that PDQ has a built in message functionality
15:49 < Alternity> i keep calling powershell for pop-ups
15:49 < Alternity> humpaxx: yep the xps 15 9570.  The new xps 13 also has a 4 core model now as well
15:49 < Alternity> my work laptop has an i7-8750H
15:49 < Alternity> you can thank AMD for the extra cores :)
15:50 < humpaxx> Im happy with my 9550
15:51 < humpaxx> It doesn´t run  rocketleague as well as i would have hoped
15:51 < humpaxx> but its still okay :p
15:52 < Alternity> the xps 15 has a gtx 1050 Ti with Max-Q
15:52 < Alternity> whatever that means
15:52 < Alternity> sadly no gaming on the work laptops :P
15:55 < Alternity> onenerdyguy:  do you all use pdq deploy for laptop provisioning?
15:55 < humpaxx> Alternity: The term Max-Q is borrowed from the aeronautics industry, where it refers to the maximum amount of aerodynamic stress an aircraft can sustain. In the world of graphics cards, it means the sweet spot between graphics performance and heat production.
15:55 < Alternity> currently we use a base image with office 2016 slipstreamed, and then pdq to deploy other apps after imaging
15:55 < Alternity> humpaxx: ye from what i've read it just means more power efficient, but also lower clocks than the normal ver :(
15:56 < asimon> Alternity: We do pretty much the same. It was just too much of a pain to rebuild the image if you wanted to add/remove a program
15:56 < asimon> Or change something about it
15:56 < Alternity> ye the days of a golden image are behind us
15:56 < MillerBOSS> You are my golden image Alternity
15:56 < Alternity> anyone tried the new intune autopilot?
15:57 < Alternity> cool concept, they ship from the factory with intune already installed so it can autoprovision
15:57 < Alternity> i'm sure the real world execution is lacking
15:58 < onenerdyguy> Alternity, yes
15:59 < onenerdyguy> Alternity, we use FOG at the moment for deployment, then it drops into a collection called "freshly imaged" that deploys baselines based on it's AD membership
16:00 < Alternity> how does the collection know they are fresh?  fog run a command for a static collection?
16:00 < onenerdyguy> Alternity, OS install date < 2 days ago and AD Join date < 2 days ago
16:00 < Alternity> ha, makes sense
16:01 < felda> I think I might go see Ant-man and the Wasp tonight
16:01 < Alternity> i heard it is good clean fun
16:01 < felda> I like that
16:02 < Alternity> how the heck do they keep making consistently good movies
16:02 < felda> Alternity that's why I installed the naked bodies mods in Skyrim.  It's for the realsim
16:02 < Alternity> however much they pay kevin fiege they should probably pay him more
16:02 < Alternity> pretty sure he's the reason
16:02 < Alternity> i was looking at some of those mods a few weeks ago felda, the rabbit hole on that one is.... deep
16:03 < felda> Alternity if you need recommendations I have got you covered  ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
16:03 < Alternity> too bad skyrim graphics are pretty fugly.  i remember them being bad even when the game came out
16:03 < felda> you ever heard of HD texture packs my dude?
16:03 < Alternity> i have a bunch installed, the game still looks bad
16:03 < felda> mine looks good
16:03 < Alternity> just the nature of the terrible engine
16:03 < felda> but then again I've never played a Bethesda game for the graphics
16:03 < Alternity> witcher 3 kind of ruined me on bethesda games
16:04 < ekaj> `bofh
16:04 <+layer-eight> BOFH Processes running slowly due to weak power supply
16:04 < felda> Oblivion was straight garbage lmao
16:04 < Nightcinder> ffs
16:04 < alazare619> anyone in here take metamucil
16:04 < Nightcinder> we just replaced the processor in our strata phone system hoping to get another year out of it
16:04 < Alternity> i'd rather just play witcher 3 again :P
16:04 < felda> I'm not an old woman so no I don't take metamucil
16:04 < Nightcinder> less than 2 weeks later lightning strikes, kills the smartjack and damages the processor
16:04 < Alternity> amazing graphics, amazing characters, amazing storyline, amazing quests, amazing DLC...
16:04 < Nightcinder> slkdjfl;sajdf;asjd
16:05 < alazare619> Alternity: its single player tho...
16:06 < Alternity> they're all single player
16:07 < felda> dang if Steam could track the SKSE launcher for Skyrim I'd have over 300 hours in this game lol
16:08 < felda> I'd say between all the Bethesda games I have over 1,500 hours of gameplay
16:08 < Alternity> i have most of the popular retexture packs.  at a certain point though it's like putting lipstick on a pig
16:08 < felda> another 500 with Call of Duty and Halo
16:09 < felda> and another 500 with just Minecraft
16:10 < Nightcinder> i have 1k hours into CSS
16:14 < corn266> oof, gonna be a 10-6pm day
16:14 < estranger> oof
16:14 < alazare619> hmm should i take metamucil
16:15 < estranger> are you shitting lead bricks? then maybe
16:15 < grumplestiltzkin> favorite fallout and favorite elder scrolls - go
16:15 < alazare619> havent been going 💩 regularly
16:15 < estranger> Ultima Online
16:15 < alazare619> estranger: havent pooped really at all in the last week
16:15 < alazare619> took a laxative last night
16:15 < estranger> yeah you should then
16:15 < estranger> get some fiber boyeee
16:15 < alazare619> still havent went 💩
16:16 < estranger> pains?
16:16 < alazare619> yep
16:16 < alazare619> my only real source of fiber is whole grain bread
16:16 < estranger> i jsut got a big bowl of oatmeal handed to me here
16:16 < alazare619> but i'm starting to think i have a glutten intolerance anytime i have a sandwich i get unreasonably tired after it...
16:18 < vinrock> you're getting old
16:18 < vinrock> its the sugar in the white bread
16:18 < alazare619> whats that yogurt brand that "is meant for your diggestive system"
16:18 < alazare619> vinrock: i dont eat white bread only whole grain
16:19 < vinrock> oh ok then
16:19 < humpaxx> Any MSP or IT team playas in here?
16:20 < JollyRgrs> IT team?
16:20 < desgen> /mode +v JollyRgrs
16:20 < humpaxx> Im looking for a smart design for documentation rather than just dumping information in a document
16:20 < estranger> probiotics
16:21 < desgen> your damn right
16:21 <+JollyRgrs> fixed
16:21 < humpaxx> JollyRgrs: Like a group of people that do the same thing
16:21 <+JollyRgrs> humpaxx: i guess i'm confused why would you ask if anyone is MSP or IT team
16:21 <+JollyRgrs> MSP is very diff from a team of exchange admins
16:22 <+JollyRgrs> you might do better just asking your question :P
16:22 < humpaxx> Thats true, MSP is all i know :p
16:22 <+JollyRgrs> eww :( i'm sorry
16:23 < humpaxx> I guess ijust want to know if theres a certain way documentation should be designed in
16:23 < felda> Did Code_Man65 take the week off?
16:23 < ebol4> you know what a DJ's favorite place to document knowledge is?
16:23 <+JollyRgrs> si
16:23 < ebol4> he puts knowledge in the wiki wiki wiki
16:24 < narziss> lol
16:24 < humpaxx> ebol4: i expected that..
16:24 < narziss> juuust as i was about to put knowledge in my wiki.
16:24 < tapoxi> ebol4: youre fired
16:24 < desgen> narziss, You mean wordpress
16:25 < humpaxx> Right now i have a docuwiki on a stick setup that im trying to write up info in from current docs to make it easier to read and stuff
16:25 <+JollyRgrs> ebol4: but you aren't even a dad
16:25 < desgen> mediawiki is what our channel uses
16:25 < desgen> largely undone
16:25 < tapoxi> ebol4: that's a fucking product manager tier joke
16:26 <+JollyRgrs> humpaxx: i prefer "human readable" format
16:26 < humpaxx> JollyRgrs: plaintext? :p
16:26 < Alternity> another nice feature is that you can silently push Dell BIOS updates
16:26 < Alternity> we push bios updates to all our users via pdq deploy
16:26 < Alternity> was scary at first, but it works great
16:26 < Alternity> no bricked machines so far
16:26 <+JollyRgrs> if you're looking at template... just write up something that makes sense for you and others, then turn it into a template for other documents
16:26 < vinrock> y u update bios?
16:26 < Alternity> vinrock: meltdown and spectre
16:26 < vinrock> ah
16:26 <+JollyRgrs> humpaxx: tbh, i am a big fan of plaintext
16:26 < Alternity> also some TPM fixes
16:26 < vinrock> yeah i never update a bios unless its to fix something
16:27 < Alternity> thats generally best practice
16:27 < felda> JollyRgrs that means you are defenseless >:-D
16:27 <+JollyRgrs> like meltdown/spectre
16:27 <+JollyRgrs> lol
16:27 < felda> pfsense pfsense pfsense pfsense pfsense pfsense pfsense pfsense pfsense pfsense pfsense pfsense
16:27 < felda> heuheuehueheuheueheuehuehuehe
16:27 < felda> I am free
16:27 < Alternity> there will be more bios updates for the new speculative execution exploits i'm sure :/
16:27 < felda> from my mortal coils!
16:27 < AnimalFarmPig> JollyRgrs: plaintext++
16:27 < felda> aww damn
16:27 < vinrock> *chick clack*
16:27 < vinrock> er
16:27 < vinrock> *click clack*
16:27 < Alternity> all laptops are fully patched for spectre and meltdown though, feelsgood
16:28 <@JollyRgrs> i can't get my stupid team to pick out some test laptops to push bios updates
16:28 < vinrock> i went with my buddy to bestbuy to get his wife a macbook for her bday
16:28 <@JollyRgrs> just to 5 of the top models
16:28 < vinrock> how the fuck these things cost $3200
16:28 <@JollyRgrs> vinrock: and you did her in the bathroom?
16:28 < vinrock> a fully loaded x1 carbon is like $2500
16:28 < JollyRoger`> Whew. Glad to hear people are mitigating spectre and meltdown!
16:28 < vinrock> oh god no
16:28 <@JollyRgrs> vinrock: b/c it has a used (bitten into) apple logo
16:28 < JollyRoger`> Vinrock, yikes!
16:28 < JollyRoger`> That's a lot of money alright...
16:28 < vinrock> bro iw as like
16:28 < vinrock> waaaat?
16:29 < vinrock> previous gen procs too
16:29 < Alternity> ye the only person we have with a x1 is one of our c-levels
16:29 < humpaxx> Isn´t the newer macbooks keyboards garbage?
16:29 <@JollyRgrs> also, why did they need your help if they were just buying a macbook?
16:29 < Alternity> x1 yoga i think
16:29 < vinrock> from everything i hear it is
16:29 < JollyRoger`> (Sorry me accent's slipping. As much as I'd like to I can't speak pirate all the time :( )
16:29 < vinrock> alternity i have an x1 carbon
16:29 < onenerdyguy> JollyRoger`,  you're a pirate in our heart
16:29 < vinrock> im on my third actually
16:29 < JollyRoger`> Thanks!! :D
16:29 < Alternity> i like my xps15, moar power!
16:29 < AnimalFarmPig> ThinkPad 25 is $1700
16:29 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ju_10NkGY
16:29 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  YouTube → Lazy Town | You Are A Pirate Music Video → ⚘ 8,151,851 ↑ 77,232 ↓ 3,489 ✍ 13,416
16:29 < humpaxx> A colleague mentioned they break if theres dust under them(but apparently apple fixes that for free, if they just remove the dust or actually do something preventative i dont know)
16:29 < vinrock> i like the size/performance and fact that its rugged af
16:29 < JollyRoger`> Yaaay X)
16:30 < JollyRoger`> Yeah. I've got an old Thinkpad, it is solid as a rock.
16:30 < onenerdyguy> I use a T420 as a backup daily driver. it's solid.
16:30 < JollyRoger`> Horay!
16:30 < AnimalFarmPig> if you want a new one with the good keyboard-- https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-t-series/ThinkPad-25/p/22TP2TTTP25
16:30 <+layer-eight> * AnimalFarmPig →  ThinkPad 25 | Retro Anniversary Edition | Lenovo US
16:30 <@JollyRgrs> "as a backup daily driver"... wut?
16:30 < JollyRoger`> Hehehe. The only thing that can replace a Thinkpad... Is another Thinkpad.
16:31 < AnimalFarmPig> sadly no longer true ^
16:31 < AnimalFarmPig> aside from the 25, new thinkpads kind of suck
16:31 < JollyRoger`> Whaaat?
16:31 < onenerdyguy> JollyRoger`, its there if and when my primary one is having issues, or if I need to have like 2 machiens at once and no vms, etc.
16:31 < JollyRoger`> Oh no aw man that sucks :(
16:31 < AnimalFarmPig> it went downhill after the -30 series
16:31 < grumplestiltzkin> AnimalFarmPig++
16:31 < JollyRoger`> Shoot :(
16:31 < vinrock> that retro thinkpad is very tempting
16:31 < vinrock> also
16:31 < vinrock> https://youtu.be/GR2o6k8aPlI?t=12
16:32 <+layer-eight> * vinrock →  ⚓  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR2o6k8aPlI&feature=youtu.be&t=12 → YouTube → Baby Shark | Kids Songs | Super Simple Songs → ⚘ 30,424,646 ↑ 58,853 ↓ 25,226 ✍ 1,970
16:32 < vinrock> enjoy having that stuck in your heads for th enext week
16:32 < grumplestiltzkin> w520 is my 'home-work' machine
16:32 < AnimalFarmPig> I've got a T560 that replaced my stolen W510. I hate it. I'm seriously considering "upgrading" to a T430 or W520
16:32 < vinrock> upgrayyed
16:32 < Bru-> werd
16:33 < JollyRoger`> Someday I hope for an  POWER laptop. One in a good solid rugged chassis!
16:33 < JollyRoger`> *an OpenPOWER
16:33 <@JollyRgrs> vinrock: i annoy my youngest all the time with that song
16:33 < grumplestiltzkin> The only downside I have about the W520 is that sound issue because wires cross the heatpipe sometimes and melt a bit, need to be redone, and I haven't figured out a way to clean the GPU fan really
16:33 <@JollyRgrs> sometiems she loves it, sometimes it's "pls stop" lol
16:33 <+giant_it_burrit> JollyRgrs: remember gullah gullah island?
16:33 < AnimalFarmPig> vinrock: my daughter loves that song. She's almost 3 and loves all sea creatures, can recognize finback vs humpback whale, etc.
16:33 < vinrock> one of the guys on the radio has little kids and he recently discovered it
16:33 < vinrock> then he decided to share with everyone on the radio
16:34 < vinrock> and now like half of jersey has it stuck in their heads
16:34 < JollyRoger`> Hahaha!
16:34 < AnimalFarmPig> JollyRgrs: not POWER, but there used to be SPARC laptops. Fastest was, iirc, something like dual UltraSparc III's around 1.1 GHz.
16:34 < vinrock> whoa
16:34 < vinrock> thats dope
16:34 < AnimalFarmPig> the one I'm aware of was called the Bullfrog
16:35 < hxcsp> omg baby shark
16:35 < hxcsp> lol
16:35 < AnimalFarmPig> it was a grown up Tadpole, which was earlier sparc powered laptop
16:35 < vinrock> http://www.sparcproductdirectory.com/portabl2.html
16:35 <+layer-eight> * vinrock →  SPARC Notebooks  in the SPARC Product Directory
16:35 < hxcsp> whats the bear one?
16:35 < vinrock> oh damn yo there's a 2007 model
16:35 < AnimalFarmPig> they got something like 30 minutes of battery life
16:36 < AnimalFarmPig> vinrock: SunRay, thin client
16:36 < vinrock> ha
16:36 < JollyRoger`> AnimalFarmPig: aw man. I missed the boat on that!
16:36 < JollyRoger`> Hahaha wow.
16:36 < vinrock> oh jaysus those bullfrog lappies were dual proc
16:36 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, two socket
16:36 < vinrock> Dual 1.2 GHz UltraSPARC® IIIi processorsUp to 16GB DRAMLarge 17.1" SXGA TFT LCD DisplayFull Length, 66 MHz, 64 -bit PCI Expansion SlotDual 2.5" High Performance Disk DrivesIntegrated DVD/CD-RW Drive
16:36 < AnimalFarmPig> or slot, or however those are mounted
16:36 < vinrock> that thing is an animal
16:36 < JollyRoger`> That's like... Enough battery life for me to unplug it from the lobby, dash up to my apartment and plug it back in.
16:36 < JollyRoger`> Wow.
16:37 <@JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: i know the name, but never watched it... that mighta been after my time
16:37 <@JollyRgrs> vinrock: holy cow! 16GB RAM on a dual PIII?
16:38 < vinrock> dude and pull size pci
16:38 < vinrock> in 2005
16:38 < vinrock> pull/full
16:39 <@JollyRgrs> laptop musta been like 6" thick
16:39 < felda> should have driven my truck to work today lol
16:39 < grumplestiltzkin> hey. that 'retro' thinkpad has the 'correct' delete/home/end cluster
16:39 < vinrock> are you ROLLIN' COAL???
16:39 < felda> now I have to ride my bike home, get my truck, and come back to pick up my Dell R710
16:39 < ny0x> you should have driven pfsense to work today
16:40 < estranger> cant strap the r710 to your back and bike it home??
16:41 <@JollyRgrs> felda: ooh, gettin a r710? noice
16:41 < onenerdyguy> good choice
16:41 < onenerdyguy> now get 2 more
16:41 <+DrGibby|> and give one to me
16:42  * JollyRgrs gets another r710 and gives DrGibby| a 2950 for a discounted price
16:42 <+DrGibby|> D:
16:42 < JollyRoger`> Wow XP
16:43 < felda> JollyRgrs no I own this Dell R710
16:43 < felda> I've had it for about a year
16:43 < felda> but I've lived in apartments so I had no place to put it
16:43 < felda> I shall try again this time
16:43 <+giant_it_burrit> in your apt?
16:43 < vinrock> it's a computer not a volvo
16:43 < felda> yeah it is a one bedroom apartment
16:43 <+giant_it_burrit> why not put it there
16:43 <+giant_it_burrit> and
16:44 <+giant_it_burrit> lackrack
16:44 <+giant_it_burrit> in the living room
16:44 < felda> because it's loud as balls and I am sensitive to sound
16:44 <+giant_it_burrit> JollyRgrs: he should play rocket league with us
16:44 < felda> but to be honest it isn't as loud as the pentium i was running my web server off of XD
16:44 < felda> so that's why I'm bringing it back to my apartment
16:44 <@JollyRgrs> it is NOT loud as balls man
16:44 <@JollyRgrs> put twin 2950 servers in your room
16:44 < felda> the R710 is more quiet and more power efficient
16:44 <@JollyRgrs> see how that sounds
16:45 < felda> JollyRgrs I have an old rack mount pentium with a blower fan
16:45 < vinrock> cant you just get a closed loop liquid cooler and hang the radiator out the back
16:45 < felda> LOUD AS BALLS
16:45 < felda> but yeah
16:45 < felda> ooooh
16:45 < vinrock> instad of the little jet engines
16:45 < felda> I'm gonna setup virtual pfsense on my R710
16:45 < felda> oooh
16:45 < felda>  good plans today
16:45 < felda> get R710
16:45 < onenerdyguy> I use my R710 as storage
16:46 < felda> nuke it and put KVM on there
16:46 < felda> VM pfsense
16:46 < felda> VM Web server
16:46 < onenerdyguy> and then 3x R620's as compute. it's awesome
16:46 < felda> VM minecraft server
16:46 < felda> it's genious
16:46 < onenerdyguy> felda, you mean containers, I hope ;)
16:46 < felda> genius*
16:46 < felda> onenerdyguy I've never used containers
16:46 <+giant_it_burrit> why not do vms
16:46 <+DrGibby|> esx that shit
16:46 < onenerdyguy> Why have the extra overhead?
16:46 <+giant_it_burrit> who cares about resource usage
16:46 < onenerdyguy> felda, sounds like a great time to learn huh?
16:46 < felda> nah
16:46 < estranger> cus everyone runs everything on k8s now, no matter what
16:46 <+SpeakerToMeat> cryptic1: Can you +q felda in channel until he puts his page back up?
16:46 < vinrock> why do all these server refurb shops not incoude the faceplate
16:46 < felda> SpeakerToMeat listen here
16:47 < onenerdyguy> vinrock, they will for a fee ;)
16:47 < felda> I'll work on it over the weekend I super promise
16:47 < vinrock> i know thats so dumb
16:47 < felda> onenerdyguy I don't even know where to start with containers
16:47 < felda> is that all docker crap?
16:47 < onenerdyguy> felda, Docker or LXC/LXD
16:47 < felda> ESXi stuff?
16:47 <+SpeakerToMeat> esxi is vm
16:47 < onenerdyguy> felda, if you want it easy, just fire up Proxmox and use their built in LXC
16:47 < felda> actually
16:47 < felda> I have 2016 Hyper-V install already
16:47 < onenerdyguy> then you get your KVM and a fancy web gui too
16:47 < felda> I'll just use that and nuke the current VMs
16:48 <+giant_it_burrit> i think im going to go hyperv for my boxes again
16:48 < vinrock> boxen
16:48 < onenerdyguy> i just rolled to a HyperV 2016 cluster last week
16:48 <@JollyRgrs> felda: that's basically what i have
16:49 < onenerdyguy> giant_it_burrit, you use Differencing disks at all in Hyper_V?
16:49 < felda> JollyRgrs Dell R710 with HyperV Server 2016?
16:49 < felda> then I'm gonna plop pfsense VM
16:49 < felda> and web server VM
16:49 <@JollyRgrs> one r710 is freenas, the other is KVM with pfsense, minecraft, apache, irc, transmission service, etc
16:49 < felda> and keep my Ubuntu VM for minecraft
16:49 <@cryptic1> he has been muted
16:49 < onenerdyguy> SO SPEAKETH cryptic1
16:50 < felda> D:<
16:50 <@JollyRgrs> RABBIT SEASON!
16:50 < vinrock> SWORDFIGHT
16:50 < felda> I'm doing real sysadmin projects
16:50 < onenerdyguy> This is like my christmas.
16:50 < onenerdyguy> quick, someone get Rkeene to tell someone to code in TCL
16:50 <@JollyRgrs> BOOM!
16:50 < pfsense> I am god
16:50 < pfsense> also I am virtual
16:50 < pfsense> and so are you
16:51 <+JollyRgrs> i am virtually real
16:51 < MillerBOSS> Touch me please
16:51 <+giant_it_burrit> what in retardation....
16:51 < asimon> Oh MillerBOSS
16:51 < asimon> what regex does layer-eight support in the s/old/new
16:51 < pfsense> oops
16:51 < pfsense> I forgot
16:51 < grumplestiltzkin> !report cryptic1 spamming
16:51 < pfsense> I removed my hyperv 2016 from the domain
16:52 < pfsense> and forgot how to log back in lmao
16:52 < asimon> I got pissed at it the other day because I don't think it understood my lookbehind
16:52 < onenerdyguy> well thats the dumb. put it back on the domain
16:52 < pfsense> I'll have to re-install Hyper-V 2016
16:52 < pfsense> JollyRgrs do you have your own domain at home?
16:52 < humpaxx> felda just unlock the local account
16:53 <+JollyRgrs> pfsense: i do
16:53 < onenerdyguy> Domain at home makes sense. I run 2, one for Prod and one for home lab
16:53 < humpaxx> Whats yours called?
16:53 <+JollyRgrs> i have my own gapps domain and a diff domain for home that is setup with ddns service
16:53 < pfsense> JollyRgrs what do you use for that?
16:53 < pfsense> for the domain not the ddns lol
16:53 < onenerdyguy> home.nerdyviking.com and lab.nerdyviking.com haha
16:53 <+JollyRgrs> i don't run a windows domain
16:53 < pfsense> I have pfsense doing ddns for felda.io
16:53 <+JollyRgrs> just a domain name
16:54 < pfsense> how do you do logins then?
16:54 <+JollyRgrs> my homelab is all linux
16:54 < pfsense> just $computer\$user
16:54 < pfsense> ??
16:54 < pfsense> including hyperv?
16:54 <+JollyRgrs> and my windows desktops are just workgroup
16:54 < onenerdyguy> JollyRgrs, wish I could get away with that.
16:54 <+giant_it_burrit> http://thisfuckingpieceofsoftwaresucks.com/ this is my domain
16:54 <+layer-eight> * giant_it_burrit →  ⚓  https://java.com/en/ → java.com: Java + You
16:54 <+JollyRgrs> i don't hyperv right now at home
16:54 < humpaxx> Thumb prints :p
16:54 < MillerBOSS> asimon 👉 https://github.com/funsocietyirc/MrNodeBot/blob/abc10128d3650038ab41706356b4f0fb28f44664/scripts/listeners/correction.js
16:54 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  GitHub → funsocietyirc → MrNodeBot → Your Friendly NodeJs IRC Bot Framework → @ ~ 3 days ago → JavaScript → ✡ 15 → Forks: 5 → ☹ 6
16:54 < pfsense> workgroup logins are usually just $computername\$user right?
16:54 <+JollyRgrs> yeah
16:54 < Nightcinder> anyone use fortigate industrial db
16:55 <+JollyRgrs> but i mean... i don't really "manage" my wife and kids' computers from remote
16:55 < pfsense> k I got back in lol
16:55 <+JollyRgrs> cept teamviewer stuff
16:55 < pfsense> thought I locked myself out of my hyperv install
16:55 < pfsense> wewlad
16:55 < humpaxx> 5 More minutes until its 5pm
16:55 < pfsense> BEST SYSADMIN IS ME
16:55 < humpaxx> I swear to god if someone calls and needs help they´ll have to wait til monday
16:55 < Nightcinder> JollyRgrs: ya i don't remote manage my gf's computer
16:55 < Nightcinder> i don't even remote manage my own
16:56 < pfsense> JollyRgrs what do you use for VMs/Containers?
16:57 <+JollyRgrs> pfsense: KVM/Qemu
16:57 <+JollyRgrs> virsh commands or virt-manager if i am lazy and want a GUI
16:57 < pfsense> ah
16:57 < pfsense> ew
16:57 < pfsense> I hate command line KVM
16:57 < pfsense> I tried it once
16:57 <+JollyRgrs> it isn't that bad
16:58 < pfsense> then I died on the inside
16:58 <+JollyRgrs> you gotta learn it somehow
16:58 < pfsense> well it's that bad when you try PCI passthrough
16:58 <+JollyRgrs> at first it is really daunting
16:58 <+JollyRgrs> pfsense: how do you think i have my intel nics in pfsense?
16:58 < AnimalFarmPig> have any of yall configured your local dns on your pfsense boxes to make www.reddit.com alias old.reddit.com? Did anything break?
16:58 < pfsense> you slapped extra NICs in your R710?
16:58 <+layer-eight> * AnimalFarmPig →  ⚓  https://www.reddit.com/ → reddit: the front page of the internet
16:58 < pfsense> Doesn't it already have 4 gigabit ports?
16:58 < pfsense> how many do you need?
16:59 < alazare619> JollyRgrs: docker webvirtmgr
16:59 <+JollyRgrs> pfsense: they aren't intel, iirc
16:59 <+JollyRgrs> they are broadcom i think
16:59 < pfsense> ah
16:59 < pfsense> I don't have an Intel NIC sadly ;_;
16:59 <+JollyRgrs> and i think it is 2 built in
16:59 <+JollyRgrs> then it had a 4 port intel NIC
16:59 <+JollyRgrs> or vice versa
17:00 < pfsense> well I don't need to do vlans or anything so my pfsense setup at home can be pretty thin
17:01 < pfsense> oh yeah I think I used HyperV for VMs because KVM and ESXi didn't like my CPUs for emulating
17:02 < vinrock> wut
17:03 < JollyRoger`> Sheesh.
17:03 < pfsense> whenever I would try to restore my baremetal veeam backup of our server to test backups ESXi and KVM threw up errors about my Xeon L5520 processors for some reason
17:03 < Nightcinder> https://www.fraghero.com/russian-guy-murders-his-friend-over-argument-about-which-graphics-card-is-better-nvidia-or-amd/
17:03 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  Russian guy murders his friend over argument about which graphics card is better: nVidia or AMD
17:03 < pfsense> only Hyper-V actually worked when making a VM
17:03 < pfsense> still haven't figured out why KVM and ESXi hate my generation of CPUs ;_;
17:04 <+DrGibby|> well, its obviously nVidia, Nightcinder
17:04 < vinrock> is vt-x enabled
17:04 < alazare619> AnimalFarmPig: that question should be on /r/sysadmin
17:04 < alazare619> AnimalFarmPig: i'm sure tons of people would updoot it as they probably never thought of it
17:05 <+DrGibby|> holy shit AnimalFarmPig thats a great idea
17:06 < MillerBOSS> DrGibby| you are a great idea too
17:06  * DrGibby| blushes 
17:08 < AnimalFarmPig> I guess nobody has tried it. I'll give it a shot over the weekend.
17:08 < tapoxi> https://www.computercoins.website/
17:08 <+layer-eight> * tapoxi →  ComputerCoins Online
17:09 < tapoxi> AnimalFarmPig: you can go into account settings and force old reddit
17:09 < estranger> https://i.imgur.com/jc2KK0F.jpg  <-- I feel like this picture describes k8s. if you're on the happy path everything is fucking awesome... but go a little bit sideways and yer fucking fucked. Discuss.
17:09 <+layer-eight> * estranger →  IMGUR Image → Image/jpeg → 2 minutes ago → 800x533 → ⚘ 4
17:09 < AnimalFarmPig> tapoxi: does that work for things like crossposts? Sometimes I'll follow a link from one section of reddit to another, and that dumps me from old reddit to new reddit
17:10 < tapoxi> AnimalFarmPig: yup
17:10 < AnimalFarmPig> neat. They must have hidden that option. I'll just check that...
17:10 < tapoxi> estranger: k8s is the electric car
17:10 < tapoxi> estranger: its awesome if your life works around the electric car
17:11 < estranger> man its just brittle
17:11 < estranger> shit gets into wierd states
17:11 < StrongBad> what, like alabama?
17:11 < AnimalFarmPig> tapoxi: found the option. A bit misleadingly named. Thanks!
17:11 < asimon> Wait so there's basically no regex in here MillerBoss? Am I reading that right?
17:12 < tapoxi> estranger: I'm running on GKE so I just use the "etcd is fucked plz fix" button
17:12 < asimon> s/bas.*lly/test
17:12 < MillerBOSS> I didn't make it asimon. So I am not sure
17:12 < GreyKite> just found out the reason I was passed over for a position doesn't apply to everyone and that someone else got a position despite not passing the restriction
17:12 < GreyKite> fuck this place
17:12 < asimon> I know, I'm just surprised lol
17:12 < estranger> tapoxi, lolyeah ive just had to reboot my master a few times these last couple days
17:14 < estranger> im sure half my problems is related to statefulsets, but still
17:15 < AnimalFarmPig> I'm not sure that kubernetes is a good solution for anyone but Google
17:16 < estranger> maybe i need to mess with different networks
17:16 < estranger> AnimalFarmPig, google's scale is big enough to have entire k8s clusters fail and have zero impact
17:16 < estranger> and their k8s is not the k8s we use either from my understanding
17:17 < estranger> AnimalFarmPig, but ill be damned if not every enterprise and their mothers wants to move all their shit to k8s
17:17 < AnimalFarmPig> Google's scale is such that they can afford to develop whacky ways to deploy software
17:17 < AnimalFarmPig> develop and use
17:17 < estranger> they design their own silicon to save money
17:17 < estranger> heh
17:17 < estranger> fabbing their own chips
17:18 < estranger> its cray cray
17:18 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, it's kind of nuts that non-google businesses are trying to emulate them
17:19 < estranger> legacy companies see these new digital companies taking over and try to mimick them.  They DO need to modernize but doing things the same way these mamoth digital companies do it is not the answer
17:20 < AnimalFarmPig> I like to point to Stack Overflow/Exchange, which runs on a handful of physical servers in a colo
17:20 < estranger> google, amazon, netflix.. they are their own beasts
17:20 < estranger> apple
17:21 < AnimalFarmPig> they don't do any dynamic scaling, orchestration, etc. They bought appropriately sized servers and run their software on them.
17:21 < rootsudo> lol
17:21 < rootsudo> I like how I interview for A but get B
17:21 < rootsudo> I don't wanna be senior exchange administrator
17:21 < estranger> I interviewed for a job in DC got a job in Chicago. worked out well though
17:22 < estranger> oof yeah, not an exchange admin job though
17:25 < rootsudo> I know barely enough exchange to be considered good at it/would take it as an opportunity but fuck senior is in the title
17:25 < estranger> ... what did you apply for and why do they think youd be better off running their exchange servers?
17:25 < estranger> project 1) move to 0365
17:30 < Chode_Man65> so i've been using a compact keyboard for awhile at home (mechanical) no 10key and extra compact
17:30 < Chode_Man65> love this thing now whenever i go to work and use my work keyboard it feels bulky and no feedback...
17:30 < Chode_Man65> i think the mech keyboard bug has bitten me
17:39 < coderphive> Chode_Man65 == DomLS3?
17:40 < rootsudo> estranger I didn't, recruiter got me for position A, and now it's position B
17:40 < rootsudo> and promised location A or B now it's C D or E
17:40 < estranger> lol.. that would throw me some red flags tbh
17:41 < coderphive> if Chode_Man65, err  := DomLS3; err != nil {}
17:41 <+DrGibby|> unless you said to the recruiter you were open to other jobs and locations, I think thats super sketch
17:41 <+DrGibby|> though, its typical recruiter style
17:41 <+DrGibby|> they just want their money
17:42 < MadCamel> just demand a remote positon. remote only.
17:43 <+DrGibby|> MadCamel: best we can do is remote once every 365 days
17:45 < MadCamel> Invert that. Or you can try to deal with my disabled ass around the office but I'm tellin you that won't be pretty
17:46 <+DrGibby|> we're a veteran owned service disabled small business, so the more disableds the better
17:46 < Chode_Man65> coderphive:  no not domls3 id never own that shit of an engine
17:46 <+DrGibby|> gotta come in tho
17:46 < Chode_Man65> ford windsor 4lyfe
17:46 < MadCamel> heh sounds about right tbh :(
17:49 < sideup66> At work on Friday like https://youtu.be/Kyrds8NBz2k
17:50 <+layer-eight> * sideup66 →  ⚓  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kyrds8NBz2k&feature=youtu.be → YouTube → I DONT WANNA.......OK!!! → ⚘ 251,792 ↑ 1,965 ↓ 16 ✍ 432
17:51 < MadCamel> had 3 4-day weeks in a row, not gonna complain
17:51 < vinrock> is there a known method to unlock an iphone from an icloud account without having to pay some bullshit service
17:51 < vinrock> these fuckin things are so annoying
17:51 < vinrock> no more iphones for anyone
17:52 < MillerBOSS> But is it
17:52 < khelpw> Step 1) get a flathead screw driver and a dead blow hammer
17:52 < vinrock> thats where i was heading
17:52 < vinrock> toss em in the exploding iphone pile i got sitting here
17:52 < MillerBOSS> But is it FRiDAY? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfVsfOSbJY0
17:52 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  YouTube → Rebecca Black - Friday → ⚘ 122,951,500 ↑ 847,657 ↓ 3,224,505 ✍ 844,552
17:53 < vinrock> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzfQwXEqYaI
17:53 <+layer-eight> * vinrock →  YouTube → Rebecca Black "Friday" (Brock's Dub) → ⚘ 45,807,706 ↑ 544,819 ↓ 19,711 ✍ 94,496
17:53 < MadCamel> Any device that goes to great lengths to keep you from having admin access to it needs to be set afire anyway.
17:53 < vinrock> thats the better version
17:54 < MadCamel> I mean.. I bought the damn thing, I own it, I know unix, but I have to use exploits etc to gain root? Nope. Not gonna buy.
17:54 < vinrock> these things are fuckin junk anyways
17:54 < vinrock> i never have complaints from users with android phones
17:54 < vinrock> the iphones are constantly fucking up
17:56 < Chode_Man65> so the ryobi 1/4 impact driver been thinking of picking it up
17:56 < vinrock> ryobi
17:56 < vinrock> why
17:56 < Chode_Man65> noticed they have a 1/2 impact driver too both using that 18v battery system
17:56 < Chode_Man65> vinrock: i have alot of ryobi stuff i use frequently
17:56 < vinrock> the new milwaukee fuel drivers just came out like a week or two ago
17:56 < vinrock> oh
17:56 < Chode_Man65> none of it has broken i will say the batteries they toss in are shit but the big 4.5ah batteries are good
17:57 < Chode_Man65> side note the ryobi batteries are 18650
17:57 < vinrock> the higher capacity the better, less draw per cell
17:57 < Chode_Man65> so if you vape bruh you can rebuild them with samsung 25r or the likes
17:58 < Chode_Man65> https://www.amazon.com/Biswaye-5000mAH-Lithium-Replacement-Battery/dp/B06XSDP2VH/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_tr_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=4YJHN8WXCMA3KCNC8CM4
17:58 < Chode_Man65> you can actually purchase used ones off ebay and rebuild them yourself which is pretty cool
17:59 < Chode_Man65> especially since 18650's are easy to find and well..ryobi may one day change there battery style
18:01 < ekaj> oldschool runescape was released
18:01 < ekaj> get on it bois
18:02 < Chode_Man65> vinrock: but i'm fairly invested in ryobi, bandsaw, sawzall, jigsaw, fan, radio, leaft blower, weed eater all on the 18v lineup none of them have died i do have a drill i use occasionally its meh tho but beenwatching mighty car mods and they have used their impacts for ages ryobi even sent them some batteries
18:02 < Chode_Man65> ekaj: its been released
18:02 < Chode_Man65> like 3 years now
18:02 < Chode_Man65> have you been under a rock?
18:02 < ekaj> i meant mobile you chode
18:02 < vinrock> ryobi aint bad was just curious
18:02  * Chode_Man65 fitting name is fitting
18:02 < vinrock> ryobi/rigid/milwaukee = same company
18:02 < ekaj> do you play osrs?
18:02 < Chode_Man65> vinrock:  yea the only one that really sucks was the drill...but in all fairness the drill came in a kit with the sawzall bandsaw and jigsaw
18:03 < Chode_Man65> and the kit was only like 150 bucks
18:03 < ekaj> i've never used ryobi, prefer dewalt
18:03 < Chode_Man65> so figured they had to skimp some where ya know
18:03 < vinrock> https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-STEALTH-FORCE-Brushless-18-Volt-Hyper-Lithium-Ion-1-4-in-Cordless-Pulse-Driver-Kit-R86036K/206596563
18:03 < pfsense> why the fuck is managing hyper-v without a domain so difficult
18:03 < vinrock> thats the rigid hydraulic impact that AvE was impressed by
18:03 < ekaj> pfsense: try managing with pfsense
18:03 < vinrock> figures they're losing money on each one sold
18:03 < Chode_Man65> ekaj: name i play wow and neverwinter with a steam controller
18:03 < pfsense> jesus it's like you have line up five lions in a row and make them all do a back flip
18:03 < ekaj> Chode_Man65: why not osrs
18:03 < ekaj> what's wrong with you
18:03 < Chode_Man65> never got into runescape
18:03 < ekaj> ridgid makes good shit
18:04 < Chode_Man65> when runescape was promanent i was still heavily invested in muds
18:04 < Chode_Man65> then wow came out and killed muds and i moved to wow
18:04 < ekaj> I played as a kid, so a lot of ppl my age are playing osrs again
18:04 < ekaj> because we can afford mems now etc
18:05 < Chode_Man65> vinrock:  https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-18-Volt-ONE-Cordless-Brushless-3-Speed-1-4-in-Hex-Impact-Driver-Tool-Only-with-Belt-Clip-P238/301853896 thats what i'm looking at
18:06 < vinrock> ah the neon green ones
18:06 < MillerBOSS> COMBooo https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Brushless-Drill-Driver-and-Impact-Driver-Combo-Kit-w-2-1-5Ah-Batteries-Charger-and-Bag-R9603/301853891
18:06 < Chode_Man65> vinrock: it says it can do 166 ft lbs
18:07 < Chode_Man65> im willing to bet its closer to 120ft lbs tho which should still break lug nuts off
18:07 < Chode_Man65> but was looking more for engine bay component stripping and other suspension bits
18:08 < ekaj> you want to use those drills on a car?
18:08 < MadCamel> gotta be careful with a lot of these. If you see one cheaper with a slightly diff model # you can be sure it's an underbuilt model of the professional tool with shittier bearings and electronics
18:08 < estranger> slack really need better channel management
18:09 < MadCamel> slack really needs a 3rd party client
18:09 < MadCamel> theirs is horrid
18:09 < ekaj> slack really needs to die and let IRC take over again
18:09 < MadCamel> ^
18:09 < Chode_Man65> ekaj:  yea impact drivers are great for suspension bits
18:09 < Chode_Man65> ekaj:  and like say alternator brackets and taking head studs out or exhaust manifold etc
18:10 < MadCamel> unlikely though, so all I'm asking for is a non-crap UI. Ugh it's so bad. Everything else on my workstation has vim keybindings.. Slack? It's it's own deal..
18:10 < ekaj> I just use bigger drills than those, that's why i was curious
18:10 < Chode_Man65> like dont get me wrong i have a 700lb twin hammer ingersol rand air pnumatic
18:10 < Chode_Man65> that fucker could put a 10 inch in radius bolt in a .5 of an inch hole
18:10 < MadCamel> kinky
18:11 < ekaj> that's how JollyRgrs was made
18:11 <+DrGibby|> :3
18:11 < Chode_Man65> it could turn a virgin into the grand canyon  but its annoying letting my 35 gallon compressor run for 10 minutes just to get enough pressure to run that sucker
18:11 < ekaj> just use your lungs you're used to blowing aren't you?
18:12 < Chode_Man65> nah thats what JollyRgrs  is for he blows me every night
18:12 < Chode_Man65> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
18:17 < ekaj> i went to the truck dealership yesterday b/c i was returning a loaner as mine was getting fixed, hosed the mud out of the bed before
18:17 < StrongBad> I've got some old HVAC software (Bactalk) I am trying to use after resurrecting a computer, and I need to get this parallel port dongle key working over a parallel to USB port thing I have. Currently not detecting it and not sure what to fiddle with.
18:17 < ekaj> apparently I had a bunch on my shoes I didn't know about, wiped my feet on the rug in the dealership and left 4 three-foot-long mud streaks. my gf said the sales guy had a look of horror on his face
18:17 < estranger> IRC just need to have state for it to be viable in the business
18:17 < ebol4> is the dongle thing just DRM?
18:18 < StrongBad> yeah afaik
18:18 < ekaj> does it not have a web interface? My college
18:18 < ekaj> college's old stuff did
18:18 < ebol4> just crack the program
18:18 < vinrock> dongle dongle dongle
18:18 < ebol4> ding dang dong
18:18 < StrongBad> it has some kind of bactalk protocol it uses to talk to HVAC but I can't get into the program to select the NIC to talk to it without the dongle working
18:19 < MillerBOSS> estranger 👉 irc.com
18:19 < StrongBad> stupid dongles
18:19 < MillerBOSS> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17375831
18:20 < ekaj> lmao we were just tlaking about reviving IRC
18:21 < MillerBOSS> https://github.com/ircv3/ircv3-specifications/milestone/4/
18:21 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  GitHub → ircv3 → ircv3-specifications → IRCv3 specifications | Roadmap: https://git.io/IRCv3-Roadmap | Code of conduct: http://ircv3.net/conduct.html → @ ~ 3 months ago → ✡ 497 → Forks: 43 → ☹ 54
18:22 < ekaj> grawity
18:22 < ekaj> I haven't seen that name in forever, used to talk to him on cluenet
18:23 < ekaj> before they moved to ftype or something
18:23 < dragonfleas> What's a sure way of destroying hard drives that's HIPAA compliant?
18:23 < dragonfleas> Should we ship them all off to 3rd party?
18:23 < ekaj> mail them to me, i'll send you a disposal receipt
18:23 < MillerBOSS> Seems legit to me
18:23 < ekaj> do the needful please
18:24 < MillerBOSS> DBAN?
18:24 < vinrock> grind em' in your buttcrack
18:24 < vinrock> drop in bio hazard waste
18:24 < asimon> Wipe em with a damp cloth
18:26 < dragonfleas> I just took a shit on all of them, does that suffice?
18:26 < dragonfleas> No one is going to try to recover data off shit covered HDD's
18:26 < vinrock> you should stil grind em in your buttcrack
18:26 < asimon> dragonfleas: Except the CIA
18:27 < asimon> Sounds like bullshit but there was actually a cold war effort to deprive the soviets of toilet paper so they'd use classified docs instead which were the tossed and recovered by the CIA
18:27 < asimon> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Tamarisk
18:27 <+layer-eight> * asimon →  Operation Tamarisk - Wikipedia
18:28 < dragonfleas> what the fuck
18:28 < dragonfleas> that can't be real
18:28 < asimon> The cold war involved some weird shit
18:29 < asimon> Like implanting a listening device inside a cat, hoping officers would take it home
18:29 < dragonfleas> WTF LOL
18:29 < asimon> I'm not joking lol
18:29 < asimon> (the cat was quickly hit by a car but its the thought that counts)
18:30 < vinrock> thats a slick move
18:30 < vinrock> russians fucking love cats
18:31 < ekaj> and vodka
18:31 < ekaj> and squatting
18:32 <+DrGibby|> and smokes
18:35 < tenthshift> asimon I remember reading about that
18:35 < GreyKite> and mayonaise and semechki
18:36 < asimon> tenthshift: Yeah the US has done some pretty sneaky stuff. Definitely worth heading to museums to check out
18:36 < asimon> If any of you are near DC the National Cryptography Museum is awesome
18:36 < tenthshift> I remember the WWII spy palm-concealed one shot pistol
18:37 < tenthshift> basically a mass-manufactured zip gun
18:37 < tenthshift> poison tipped umbrellas
18:37 < tenthshift> an attempt to make a destroyer using dry ice mixed with concrete
18:37 < asimon> didn't hear about that last one, that's nuts
18:38 < tenthshift> yeah I don't know why they ever thought it'd work
18:38 < asimon> do you have a link I could look at?
18:38 < tenthshift> let me see if I can find
18:38 < tenthshift> there's also the whole fake troop movements thing before d-day with a whole bunch of balloon tanks
18:38 < tenthshift> like giant pool toys made to look from the air like the real thing
18:39 < tenthshift> oh! it was actually pykrete
18:39 < tenthshift> a mix of wood pulp and ice
18:39 < tenthshift> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Habakkuk
18:39 <+layer-eight> * tenthshift →  Project Habakkuk - Wikipedia
18:39 < tenthshift> which seems even worse
18:39 < tenthshift> like a particle board ship that will slowly melt on you
18:40 < tenthshift> but hey you could build it quick af I guess, which if you're needing quantity then...
18:40 < asimon> ice and wood pump
18:40 < ekaj> `bofh
18:40 <+layer-eight> BOFH Power surges on the underground.
18:40 < asimon> That sounds like just the worst idea
18:40 < asimon> but one that you could sell to superiors as uber cost savings
18:40 < tenthshift> lol
18:41 < tenthshift> some mid-level military guy trying to find something for his guys to do
18:41 < tenthshift> "pfc smith, freeze that sawdust, I'm gonna tell command it's a new building material we're working on"
18:42 < pfsense> I'm heading out
18:42 < pfsense> have a good weekend
18:42 < asimon> Is there a way to tell windows explorer that I only ever want to view things in "Details" mode
18:43 < asimon> It feels like my wishes are respected for a while but every once in a while it will decide that a type of folder is different
18:43 < tenthshift> asimon organize -> view options/folder options or w/e -> apply to all folders
18:43 < tenthshift> oh yeah I dunno what to do about different types
18:43 < tenthshift> those auto categorizations always piss me off
18:43 < asimon> Yeah
18:43 < tenthshift> I don't give a shit that this folder has images on it, it's still a normal folder, I dont' want your gallery shit windows
18:44 < tenthshift> maybe there's a gpo to turn that functionality off though
18:45 < tenthshift> https://winaero.com/blog/disable-folder-type-discovery-windows-10/
18:45 <+layer-eight> * tenthshift →  Disable Automatic Folder Type Discovery in Windows 10
18:45 < tenthshift> https://superuser.com/questions/1175439/windows-disable-folder-type-detection-in-explorer-globally
18:45 <+layer-eight> * tenthshift →  Windows: Disable folder type detection in explorer globally - Super User
18:45 < tenthshift> maybe?
18:48 < asimon> hm that might work
18:53 < namol> holy fuck, it is only 12:53pm
18:53 < namol> this day wont endddddddddddddd
18:53 < estranger> im hungry now
18:53 < tapoxi> I need better office snax
18:53 < MadCamel> eat a cow
18:53 < namol> mmm cow
18:54  * corn266 munches on somee unsalted roasted peanuts
18:54 < tapoxi> did you know that peanuts have tiny worms in them
18:54 < namol> yum
18:54  * corn266 isn't eating jumping beans
18:54 < tapoxi> they only stick around in the gut for a day or two before you pass them though
18:54 < catbeard> like a good neighbor... tapeworm eclaire!
18:55 < namol> most processed food has some portion of ground up whatever in it
18:55 < tapoxi> famously figs and wasp larvae
18:55 < MadCamel> I don't see how worms would survive the roasting process.. and if they're dead then I don't really care
18:56 < corn266> added protein imo
18:56 < tapoxi> MadCamel: simple its all bullshit
18:57 < MadCamel> I eat a LOT of peanuts and I'm still alive
18:57 < tapoxi> its one of those fun lies we tell ourselves
18:57 < namol> so far....
18:57 < MadCamel> though I think if I touched someone with an allergy they'd die
18:57 < tapoxi> like Valve will make another video game
18:57 < corn266> or maybe you're a worm in disguise...
18:57 < namol> spreading the worm agenda
18:57 < MadCamel> Because I'm not kidding about a lot. Like 8oz/day of peanuts.
18:57 < namol> FAKE WORM NEWS
18:58 < corn266> MadCamel, that's half a pound of peanuts a day
18:58 < tapoxi> No worm, no worm, you're the worm!
18:59 < corn266> Also that's 1360 calories a day
18:59 < tapoxi> just have like, a tuna sandwich
18:59 < tapoxi> and bam 2000 calories
18:59 < corn266> and if they're salted, that's 1120mg sodium
19:00 < tapoxi> salt is good for you
19:00 < tapoxi> it sucks the toxins out
19:00 < corn266> tell that to overwatch players
19:00 < namol> sodium isn't bad for you unless you have underlying blood pressure issues
19:00 < tapoxi> thats why I play overwatch on console
19:00  * ebol4 drinks soy sauce
19:00 < namol> and you drink plenty of fluids
19:00 < tapoxi> because the PC overwatch people are a nightmare
19:00 < namol> like soy sauce
19:00 < namol> or terriyaki
19:01 <+TuxedoJack> Jesus fuck, I missed being able to log into the admin interface on the Barracudas
19:02 < namol> i dunno man, it'd be nice not logging into a barracuda device
19:02 < xtensive> no no, you cloud now
19:04 < estranger> or kidney stones
19:04 < estranger> dont forget kidney stones
19:05 < xtensive> I thought those were caused by hard water
19:05 < StrongBad> they're genetic
19:05 < StrongBad> I think chronic dehydration helps
19:06 < ebol4> and drinking a dingus load of soda
19:06 < ebol4> but maybe that's just dehydrations
19:06 < ebol4> plural
19:12 < admiralspark> today
19:12 < admiralspark> is such a garbage day
19:12 < admiralspark> most of the office is gone
19:12 < xtensive> same admiralspark
19:13 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: 's not all bad. Days like this allow for getting moderate-risk shit done without having folk breathing down your neck.
19:14 < xtensive> but it's a Friday Heresiarch tread lightly with risk D:
19:15 <+JollyRgrs> /mode +ro *
19:15 < admiralspark> Heresiarch: but then you're breakign RO Friday! :P
19:15 < Chode_Man65> OMG the laxatives kicked in
19:15 < admiralspark> xtensive: we're having a barbecue, so I've been informed. You KNOW management is gone when that happens
19:15 <+JollyRgrs> ...
19:15 < xtensive> sweet admiralspark !
19:15 < Chode_Man65> Dear God have mercy on my turd cutter
19:15 < xtensive> free BBQ!
19:16 < admiralspark> no no no, we're all contributing
19:16 < tapoxi> I'm replacing infrastructure on friday booya
19:16 < admiralspark> but like
19:16 < admiralspark> the cost of a couple bags of chips
19:16 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: yes. Yes I am. And no, I ain't scurr'd. I transitioned most of the webservers over to tower/ansible deploy this morning.
19:16 < admiralspark> tapoxi: I found days like this are the best time to finally go back and enable dns scavenging without reading the manuals
19:17 < admiralspark> Heresiarch: ahh man keep talking dirty
19:17 < admiralspark> I'm trying to tweak a Rundeck server so that less-technicals can one-click run jobs so I don't have to
19:17 < tapoxi> Heresiarch: is that shit free yet
19:17 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: I thought about rundeck. But honestly - if you're on ansible, use AWX (free tower)
19:17 < insecurity> computers?
19:18 < admiralspark> tapoxi: Tower's upstream is free, it's called AWX
19:18 < Heresiarch> tapoxi: yup. https://github.com/ansible/awx
19:18 <+layer-eight> * Heresiarch →  GitHub → ansible → awx → AWX Project → @ ~ 3 days ago → Python → ✡ 4,129 → Forks: 762 → ☹ 429
19:18 < tapoxi> ahh ok
19:18 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: AWX job templates and vault functionality make me happy in special places.
19:19 < admiralspark> Heresiarch: sorry, Rundeck kicks off python jobs. I only have one Ansible job it handles, and it's specifically because it's a band-aid fix. Monitoring server pokes the Rundeck API on a specific alert, and that runs my ansible job
19:19 < admiralspark> Heresiarch: I couldn't wrap my head around how to integrate my vault stuff with AWX, tried 2x now and gave up
19:19 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: fair enough. In that case, it'd be six of one, half-dozen of the other.
19:19 < admiralspark> small shop though, only ~150 servers total and maybe half that I touch
19:19 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: where'
19:20 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: where'd you get stuck?
19:20 < Heresiarch> I'm in a similar situation, but I'm trying to get them away from "here's a webhook, pay us to auto-deploy for you" services.
19:20 < admiralspark> The entire concept. In Ansible I have a tidy inventory file for production and one for dev, and each one has vault references. I also run stuff for my windows jobs as an interactive job so it prompts me for a password each time
19:21 < admiralspark> I'm looking to fix that with a service account
19:21 < admiralspark> actually
19:21 < admiralspark> today
19:21 < admiralspark> maybe
19:21 < admiralspark> that's a good idea
19:21 < admiralspark> anyway, my AWX installs always seem to come out janky, and I NEVER seem to get the docker image to work. Very much an issue with me I'm sure
19:22 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: the first two are pretty straightforward to deal with - you have to specify which inventory to use in a job template, so keeping separate dev/prod inventories is a breeze.
19:22 < admiralspark> Well, but you manually add servers to AWX like objects right?
19:22 < admiralspark> not a yaml file?
19:23 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: in some cases. I'm transitioning this place to use foreman for provisioning, then AWX for actual deploys. The latter supports dynamic inventory from foreman, so it's a nice combo.
19:23 < tapoxi> tsk tsk tsk wouldn't need rundeck or have vault trouble with saltstack...
19:23 < admiralspark> tapoxi: don't be so.....*salty*
19:23 < tapoxi> heh heh heh
19:23 < admiralspark> I like salt. It doesn't work with windows very well :P
19:23 < Heresiarch> tapoxi: stop trying to make saltstack happen. It's not gonna happen.
19:24 < admiralspark> Heresiarch: foreman, that's a good idea. My other issue is aside from a few things most of our servers are pets not cattle (company culture)
19:24 < admiralspark> I'm working to change that.
19:24 < catbeard> our servers are named after shakespearian characters that get murdered :|
19:24 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: I'll try to get my awx role set up on a personal repo this weekend and send you a link. Does everything except run the actual ansible-playbook command for the installer.
19:24 < tapoxi> though oddly enough my current env has no saltstack
19:25 < admiralspark> hah! We use electricity-related stuff. Of course.
19:25 < catbeard> FUCK SALT
19:25 < tapoxi> I'm deploying it eventually for slack deploys
19:25 < ebol4> i thought we decided earlier that salt was good for you
19:25 < admiralspark> Heresiarch: man, that'd be sweet. I'll try to jump on here
19:25 < catbeard> salt pills maybe
19:25 < tapoxi> salt is the best
19:25 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: no worries - it'll be Monday before I'm back on anyway :)
19:26 < admiralspark> oh good, cause I try to spend my weekends not on a computer :P
19:26 < StrongBad> people die from lack of salt
19:26 < StrongBad> remember that radio show water drinking contest where the lady died
19:27 < tapoxi> yeah see
19:27 < tapoxi> she died because she used ansible
19:27 < StrongBad> http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jan/14/local/me-water14
19:27 <+layer-eight> * StrongBad →  Woman dies after being in water-drinking contest - latimes
19:27 < tapoxi> another soul claimed by hacky config mgmt over ssh
19:27 < ebol4> iirc her family sued and won
19:28 < tapoxi> but did she get the wii?
19:28 < StrongBad> all they needed to do was give her what plants crave
19:28 < ebol4> also, dang, the wii was more than 10 years ago
19:28 < admiralspark> tapoxi: say it to my face not online you salty bastard! :P
19:28 < Heresiarch> tapoxi: fighting a losing war. For better or worse, ansible is a hot thing right now.
19:29 < Heresiarch> (probably should be, "for better and worse")
19:29 < admiralspark> Anything where I don't have to add another garbage service to all my servers is an automatic win.
19:29  * admiralspark glares at puppet
19:29 < tapoxi> I don't think salt would ever take share from ansible, salt's too fucking complex
19:29 < ebol4> ansible is love
19:29 < tapoxi> but I love it goddamnit
19:29 < admiralspark> I think they're different targets tbh tapoxi.
19:29 < tapoxi> because it does literally everything
19:29 < tapoxi> yeah
19:29 <+giant_it_burrit> killdash9: you still poke at cars?
19:29 < tapoxi> if I had like, 10 machines I'd use ansible
19:29 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: honestly, puppet had one thing that blows ansible out. Hiera and deep-merge on variables.
19:30 < admiralspark> ehhh, never had a need for deep-merge. Again, I'm not a provisioning shop, I'm a "make sure the fleet stays in line" shop
19:30 < AnimalFarmPig> if I had like 10 machines, I would use a multiplexing terminal emulator like terminator :P
19:30 < Heresiarch> it's really, really damn nice - especially when you're in a multi-tenant or multi-app situation.
19:31 < tapoxi> Heresiarch: cough cough salt supports that
19:31 < AnimalFarmPig> (not really)
19:31 < admiralspark> I like ansible because Redhat is pushing the hell out of development for it on the windows side, and we don't have/can't afford SCCM here, so my tools are otherwise lacking
19:31 < Heresiarch> tapoxi: staaaaaaaahp XD
19:31 < tapoxi> I havent tried ansible on windows
19:32 < tapoxi> I think ive mostly used it for redhatisms where they use it to configure something else
19:32 < AnimalFarmPig> if Redhat pushed the hell out of something like OpenStack, would you use that as well?
19:33 < Heresiarch> AnimalFarmPig: "if" ?
19:33 < tapoxi> I mean didn't they do that?
19:33 < estranger> MLLib says "YES"
19:33 < AnimalFarmPig> "if" :P
19:33 < AnimalFarmPig> yes
19:33 < admiralspark> lol
19:33 < tapoxi> OpenStack deserves hate but people are using OpenStack for the wrong job
19:33 < AnimalFarmPig> I'm sure it's great if you're an infrastructure as a service company
19:34 < tapoxi> if you're a fucking telecom provider running shit on-prem and need to support multiple teams
19:34 < tapoxi> go openstack
19:34 < Heresiarch> AnimalFarmPig: ...you know how I know you haven't used Rackspace?
19:34 < admiralspark> tapoxi: yep
19:34 < tapoxi> if you're joe officeman and need to run a few build VMs they sell RHEV/oVirt for that use case
19:34 < AnimalFarmPig> Heresiarch: haha, actually, no, how?
19:34 < AnimalFarmPig> Rackspace is on OpenStack and it's terrible?
19:35 < Heresiarch> yeeup.
19:35 < estranger> that explains why we're on openstack internally here
19:35 < estranger> lots of old time ex rackspace
19:35  * AnimalFarmPig stands up another bare metal server as a service on scaleway for 3 yurobucks/month
19:35 < admiralspark> BMSAAS
19:35 < admiralspark> OS
19:36 < tapoxi> I want to use OpenShift
19:36 < tapoxi> I haven't touched it since they rebuilt it for k8s
19:36 < AnimalFarmPig> docker-swarm is too mainstream?
19:36 < estranger> no one uses swarm
19:36 < admiralspark> docker is junk :P
19:36 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah
19:36 < tapoxi> swarm is for dev clusters and shit
19:36 < Heresiarch> openstack is still probably the biggest solution for running your own "cloud". But the places that can both handle the complexity of it *and* have need of it is vanishingly small.
19:36 < tapoxi> everyone is on k8s now
19:36 < estranger> docker is fine, swarm is a turd
19:37 < admiralspark> kubernetes is the hot shit now
19:37 < tapoxi> shit even amazon finally stopped pushing that garbage ECS and threw in with k8s
19:37 < estranger> k8s allthethings
19:37 < Heresiarch> eh. I guess I'll have to pick up k8s at some point.
19:37 < tapoxi> its come a long way
19:37 < AnimalFarmPig> we just decommissioned our dev/devops/labs team OpenStack a month ago. Kind of glad. The idea was to replace it with Docker EE, but the people who wanted to do that and cared about it left
19:38 < estranger> ha fuck. rebooted a k8s host and a pod using a stateful set w/ persistent storage didnt attach the same drive.  thats no good
19:38 < AnimalFarmPig> so, now I don't have a way to provision a dev vm without putting in a ticket
19:38 < tapoxi> I don't know who would buy something from docker
19:38 < admiralspark> hey, just to check, nobody here is a Chef fan right?
19:39 < estranger> chef is fine imo
19:39 < tapoxi> they dicked around with swarm and now none of their engineers are working on k8s
19:39 < tapoxi> fuck chef
19:39 < tapoxi> also
19:39 < tapoxi> fuck ruby
19:39 < AnimalFarmPig> my former boss whos friend went to work for docker bought Docker EE from Docker
19:39 < admiralspark> thank you
19:39 < tapoxi> AnimalFarmPig: yay
19:39 < estranger> what does docker ee get you?
19:40 <@cryptic1> trying to take my ops eh
19:40 < tapoxi> its k8s with docker providing the support
19:40 <@cryptic1> muAHAHHAHA
19:40 < AnimalFarmPig> pretty similar to k8's from what I understand
19:40 < Heresiarch> estranger: a lot less money?
19:40 < admiralspark> devops lead at my last employer had a hard-on for chef and ruby, built all this immutable infra, dev environments, artifactories (plural), etc etc...and nobody used it, so he left
19:40 < AnimalFarmPig> there are some servers I can run dockers on and load balancers and a private repo
19:40 < tapoxi> no fucking idea why people would buy support from docker when redhat is the leader and rancher is close behind
19:40 < admiralspark> but his arrogance along with Ruby made me dump ever considering chef
19:41 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: "OMG BUT AWS USES CHEF!"
19:41 < admiralspark> tapoxi: it's in the name tho! :P
19:41 < tapoxi> hell newer releases of k8s drop docker for containerd
19:41 < admiralspark> Heresiarch: hahaha, exactly, word for fucking word.
19:41 < AnimalFarmPig> admiralspark: that's the trouble with these kinds of things. Nobody wants to learn to use them or maintain them.
19:41 < Heresiarch> that's pretty much the only reason people want to use Chef.
19:41 < estranger> tapoxi, wait wut
19:41 < admiralspark> Meanwhile I had ansible + netmiko managing about a thousand network endpoints and it was simple enough I could demo it to non-coders, got my whole group using it before I left
19:41  * MillerBOSS sets mode +o *
19:42 < admiralspark> AnimalFarmPig: culture shift needs to happen, basically
19:42 < admiralspark> sup MillerBOSS
19:42 < tapoxi> estranger: yeah GKE has support as of 1.10, containerd via cri
19:42 < tapoxi> less overhead
19:42 <+giant_it_burrit> i dont think ansible is there for windows yet
19:42 < MillerBOSS> Hello. Keeping the atoms flowing, admiralspark ?
19:42 < admiralspark> AnimalFarmPig: like I was saying earlier, servers here are pets not cattle, so I'm fighting an uphill battle
19:42 < tapoxi> I think cri-containerd was originally a plugin but its been merged in
19:42 <+giant_it_burrit> chodeman mentioned dsc
19:43 < admiralspark> MillerBOSS: you know it. Trying not to get zapped
19:43 < MillerBOSS> Servers are shrimp
19:43 < MillerBOSS> With COCKtail sauce even
19:43 < admiralspark> only felda's
19:43 < estranger> oh you can still use docker fo ryour pod containers though
19:43 < MillerBOSS> Found something fun to play https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-07-06-12-43-44-j.png
19:43 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  IMAGE/PNG; CHARSET=UTF-8 Document, 84,145 bytes
19:44 < tapoxi> estranger: yeah anything that uses CRI
19:44 < MillerBOSS> http://brewformulas.org/Vitetris
19:44 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Vitetris — BrewFormulas
19:44 < admiralspark> MillerBOSS: please tell me it's on a prod server
19:44 < admiralspark> aww it's just your macbook
19:44 < tapoxi> estranger: default is moving to containerd because of footprint tho
19:44 < MillerBOSS> Yeah
19:44 < MillerBOSS> lol
19:44 < estranger> less processes, less steps
19:44 < tapoxi> estranger: also gives rkt a chance to make a comeback
19:44 < MillerBOSS> Super tired today :(
19:45 < MillerBOSS> Its all cryptic1's fault
19:45 < rootsudo>  It has been brought to our attention that a lot of hourly pay rate discussions are happening across the entire team.   This is not professional behavior don’t do it, it is subject to disciplinary action.
19:45 < admiralspark> OH MY GOD
19:45 < rootsudo> That's sad when a company puts that in an email
19:45 < MillerBOSS> And I know DrGibby|'s fault too
19:45 < AnimalFarmPig> admiralspark: Important to choose when to fight cultural battles vs finding technical workarounds for cultural problems. Sometimes it just doesn't pay to try to shift the culture.
19:45 < tapoxi> rootsudo: pretty sure that's illegal
19:45 < admiralspark> GUYS, you can play space invaders on the cli! Ninvaders!
19:45 < MillerBOSS> Plus isn't that illegal
19:45 < rootsudo> tapoxi really, it is?
19:45 < rootsudo> shit I have the email I should report it then
19:45 <+DrGibby|> what did I do now?
19:45 < rootsudo> lol
19:46 < Heresiarch> some states, it's illegal for an employer to ban discussions on pay.
19:46 < estranger> pretty sure they cant tell you yer not allowed to tell people what you make
19:46 < admiralspark> AnimalFarmPig: truth. But I also think that if you change the culture by giving people what they want, it's worth being the change you want to see
19:46 < AnimalFarmPig> ++
19:46 < admiralspark> AnimalFarmPig: https://thenetworkcollective.com/2018/06/st-culture-and-technology/
19:46 < ebol4> they're actually insane to put that in an email
19:46 < rootsudo> whooo-hoo
19:46 <+layer-eight> * admiralspark →  Short Take - Culture and Technology » Network Collective
19:46 < tenthshift> ^
19:46 < ebol4> any HR or legal person would explode if they saw that
19:46 < MillerBOSS> https://www.dol.gov/wb/media/pay_secrecy.pdf
19:46 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  APPLICATION/PDF Document, 201,104 bytes
19:46 < tenthshift> my company has the same policy, established by HR
19:46 < admiralspark> Russ White covers it well
19:46 < tenthshift> our HR department isn't very good
19:46 < rootsudo> that's from my old contract lol
19:47 < ebol4> tenthshift: break policy, get punished, then sue
19:47 < ebol4> free dollars
19:47 < admiralspark> rootsudo: are you my last employer? hahaha
19:47 < tenthshift> actually our new HR manager just got fired for having sex with employees in exchange for preferential treatment
19:47 < Jagster`> nice
19:47 < estranger> thats illegal?
19:47 < tenthshift> which is exciting in how mindboggingly insane it is
19:47 < ny0x> was she hot?
19:47 < AnimalFarmPig> ^
19:47 < Jagster`> i mean how did he get fired tho did he report himself
19:47 < tenthshift> ny0x meh
19:47 < admiralspark> estranger: not if they don't find out ;)
19:47 < javi404> anyone having segmentation faults on fedora 28 as a client?
19:47 < javi404> 4.17.3-200.fc28.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 26 14:17:07 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
19:47 < Heresiarch> tenthshift: ...that...is impressively stupid.
19:48 < tenthshift> Heresiarch, right?
19:48 < javi404> cifs shares
19:48 < rootsudo> admiralspark that was with an important vendor contract lol
19:48 < admiralspark> hahahah
19:48 < admiralspark> gotta love it
19:49 < ebol4> shit dude if i could suck dick for a 20% raise i would
19:49 < estranger> fuck.. crashed bad again.  i give up on this shit for now
19:49 < estranger> ill try again in a few months
19:49  * cryptic1 smirks
19:50 <@cryptic1> muAHAHAHAHA
19:50 <@cryptic1> how long till he notices?
19:50 <+DrGibby|> :O
19:50 <+DrGibby|> a few minutes
19:50 < rootsudo> osx has no search in outlook
19:50 < rootsudo> fucking bullshit
19:50  * DrGibby| waves at cryptic1 
19:50 < admiralspark> he was just in here
19:50 < estranger> mac outlook is the worst
19:50 < ebol4> he won't notice, he'll just think everyone is ignoring him until he eventually gets too sad and leaves
19:50 < rootsudo> estranger I know it is
19:50 < rootsudo> but I have a PST file regardless
19:50 < MillerBOSS> https://www.npr.org/2014/04/13/301989789/pay-secrecy-policies-at-work-often-illegal-and-misunderstood
19:50 < estranger> PST files are the worst
19:51 < admiralspark> MillerBOSS: apparently my state has no such protections, interesting
19:51 < rootsudo> well fuck estranger I had no choice to use PST and Outlook
19:51 < estranger> rootsudo, literally... the worst. i feel bad 4 u
19:51 < xtensive> outlook 2016 for Mac is the best iteration yet, although that isn't saying much
19:51 < xtensive> Do you remember entourage?!
19:51  * xtensive twitches
19:52 < MillerBOSS> It looks like https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2014/04/08/executive-order-non-retaliation-disclosure-compensation-information is only for federal employees
19:52 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Executive Order -- Non-Retaliation for Disclosure of Compensation Information | whitehouse.gov
19:53 < ebol4> you can still torch their car in the parking lot if they retaliate
19:53 < ebol4> no laws necessary
19:54 < MillerBOSS> I'll bite https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/how-a-microsoft-font-brought-down-pakistani-prime-minister-nawaz-sharif/article35828938/
19:54 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  How a Microsoft font brought down Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif - The Globe and Mail
19:55 < xtensive> lol that is hilarious
19:56 < MillerBOSS> He should have used Comic Sans
19:56 < xtensive> preferably in aqua or purple color
19:56 < asimon> Wow
19:56 < asimon> I love it
19:59 < Chode_Man65> anyone ogt a way to get the latest ilo
19:59 < ebol4> buy a brand new dell server
19:59 < Chode_Man65> found a server on 2.1 (2015) before hte exploit
19:59 < StrongBad> are they still touring?
19:59 < MillerBOSS> What exploit?
19:59 < StrongBad> I thought industrial light orchestra had broken up
19:59 < ebol4> wait is ilo HP
19:59 < ebol4> shit idrac is dell
19:59 < rootsudo> so to search a pst on an mac
20:00 < rootsudo> I have to copy it over to a exchange inbox and make it a new folder on the exchange user
20:00 < rootsudo> and then go into OWA
20:00 < rootsudo> #solutions
20:00 < MillerBOSS> Or just use G Suite
20:00  * MillerBOSS runs
20:01 < catbeard> so what about this 365 phishing scam, being a tenant to tenant worm
20:01 < rootsudo> it' bullshit really
20:01 < rootsudo> worm like properties
20:01 < catbeard> can't block because it's a valid sender (another 365 tenant)
20:01 < catbeard> anyone heard of whitelists jeez
20:02 < rootsudo> which has been a known problem
20:02 < rootsudo> so if you want to phish a gmail user, use gmail, etc
20:02 < rootsudo> the best part is if you get your tenant to be MICROSOFTADMIN.onmicrosoft.com
20:02 < catbeard> if you want to phish a yahoo user, just send them an email
20:02 < rootsudo> it is a legit looking microsoft email ;)
20:03 < MillerBOSS> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17468840
20:03 <+DrGibby|> https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/you-can-bypass-authentication-on-hpe-ilo4-servers-with-29-a-characters/
20:03 < Chode_Man65> MillerBOSS:  https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/ransomware-hits-hpe-ilo-remote-management-interfaces/
20:03 <+layer-eight> * DrGibby| →  You Can Bypass Authentication on HPE iLO4 Servers With 29 "A" Characters
20:03 <+layer-eight> * Chode_Man65 →  Ransomware Hits HPE iLO Remote Management Interfaces
20:03  * MillerBOSS slaps layer-eight 
20:03  * layer-eight slaps MillerBOSS 
20:03 < MillerBOSS> LOL
20:03 < MillerBOSS> ^ 	How Reddit plans to make money through advertising
20:03 < Chode_Man65> yep ransomeware is hitting it with the 29 character exploit
20:03 <+DrGibby|> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
20:03 < MillerBOSS> Thanks Chode_Man65
20:03 < MillerBOSS> And DrGibby|FACE
20:04 < MillerBOSS> Should be Chode_Man69
20:05 <+DrGibby|> fucking lol
20:05 <+DrGibby|> HP-iLO-4: results 3,558
20:05 <+DrGibby|> https://www.shodan.io/search?query=HP-iLO-4
20:05 <+layer-eight> * DrGibby| →  HP-iLO-4 - Shodan Search
20:05 < ekaj> reeeeee
20:05 <+DrGibby|> want some shellz?
20:06 < Chode_Man65> https://downloads.hpe.com/pub/softlib2/software1/sc-linux-fw-ilo/p192122427/v142463/CP033806.scexe
20:06 <+layer-eight> * Chode_Man65 →  APPLICATION/X-FORCE-DOWNLOAD Document, 13,664,682 bytes
20:06 < Chode_Man65> thats the ilo update to 2.6 you can extract it 2 times to get the bin file and update ilo from the management console if you run hyperv a non OS style hypervisor
20:06 < MillerBOSS> So I am safe with Lights-Out 100 then right?
20:06 < MillerBOSS> :O
20:07 < admiralspark> DrGibby|: did a shodan of my college in one of our pentesting courses as an example, found ~200 xerox printers with public IP's and no firewall filters, security team for the U was in the same class. Became a huge deal internally the next week
20:07 < Chode_Man65> no idea i'm on ILO 4 vs 2.1 atm
20:07 < admiralspark> good times
20:07 < Chode_Man65> updating to ILO 4 vs 2.6
20:08 <+DrGibby|> admiralspark: nice! Did they give you anything other than a thank you?
20:08 < Chode_Man65> "The vulnerability affects all HP iLO 4 servers running firmware version 2.53 and before. Other iLO generations, like iLO 5, iLO 3, and more are not affected."
20:08 < MillerBOSS> This may be obvious but all those results on shodan are management ports connected directly to the Internet?
20:08 < Chode_Man65> yes...
20:09 < MillerBOSS> Why would people do that?
20:09 < Chode_Man65> and all can be exploited via the 29 character
20:09 < MillerBOSS> Just know I guess
20:09 < Chode_Man65> if they arent on vs 2.6...
20:09 < Heresiarch> MillerBOSS: easier. Also, "WHY CAN'T I GET TO MY WINDOWS BOX FROM HOME WAAAAAH"
20:09 <+DrGibby|> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
20:09 <+DrGibby|> a new meaning
20:09 <+DrGibby|> other than frustration that is
20:09 < admiralspark> DrGibby|: They did a follow-up in the class which was cool, kind of a "post-mortem". It was more impressive to me (being a HD drone then) that they did anything at all
20:10 <+DrGibby|> thats awesome though
20:10 < MillerBOSS> Yeah you are right Heresiarch. I have been sharing that with people here at work. Less technical. You see you may do something because it works. It gets the job done but there are consequences like this here
20:10 < admiralspark> MillerBOSS: the excuses I hear in 2011 was "it's easier to give vendors access to print materials directly to us"
20:10 < admiralspark> :P
20:10 < asimon> Fun fact: 29 is the smallest prime that is of the form 7n+1
20:11 < StrongBad> 42
20:11 < admiralspark> asimon: what's the usefulness of this fact
20:11 < MillerBOSS> s/Fun fact/Fact fun
20:11 <+layer-eight> [SED MillerBOSS/asimon] Fact fun: 29 is the smallest prime that is of the form 7n+1
20:11 < catbeard> difficulty level: 7
20:11 < MillerBOSS> Sometimes no
20:12 < catbeard> burn's wetware matches her software
20:12 < admiralspark> okay
20:12 < admiralspark> guys
20:12 < admiralspark> ssh sshtron.zachlatta.com
20:12 < admiralspark> lets do this
20:12 < catbeard> ya let's expose public keys
20:12 < catbeard> to some random ssh host
20:12 < MillerBOSS> But its "public"
20:12 < MillerBOSS> lol
20:13 < Chode_Man65> oh shit wadup
20:13 < admiralspark> catbeard: google it then
20:13 < catbeard> yes meaning you can track who tries to connect other than IP by logging the pubkey, heck the private key
20:13 < Chode_Man65> new ilo is badass looking
20:13 < Chode_Man65> its all html5
20:13 < ebol4> thank god
20:13 < admiralspark> it's a terminal-based tron game
20:13 < asimon> Oh that's a useless fact I'm pretty sure
20:13 < asimon> but its fun
20:13 < catbeard> you're a terminal-based tron game
20:13 < asimon> s/you're/my mom is
20:13 <+layer-eight> [SED asimon/catbeard] my mom is a terminal-based tron game
20:14 < asimon> gotem
20:14 < ebol4> lots of people connect and explode
20:14 < StrongBad> would y'all use money from your retirement account pre-tax for a down payment on a house if the only penalty was you had to pay it back post-tax within 15yrs
20:14 < Chode_Man65> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/MddtWlSy/image.png
20:14 <+layer-eight> * Chode_Man65 →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 73,100 bytes
20:14 < Chode_Man65> and yes my user name is alazare619 that guy is awesome
20:15 < ebol4> StrongBad: i'd probably try not to if possible, just to keep the compound interest flowin
20:15 < ebol4> but i'm also like 13 years old
20:15 < catbeard> it's a lot easier to just squat
20:15 < ebol4> that too
20:15 < StrongBad> you know what blows ebol4. 400k mortgage at 4.875% interest is $3200/mo if you include everything like taxes and HOAs
20:15 < ebol4> jesus
20:16 < StrongBad> that's a 2br 2ba condo here
20:16 < ebol4> what's a condo vs a house
20:16 < ekaj> that's a 5 br / 5 bath with 200 acres here
20:16 < catbeard> that's 5 3br 1ba house rentals here
20:16 < ebol4> condos are for condors
20:16 < Chode_Man65> ekaj:  bullshit
20:16 < StrongBad> condo is you live in an apartment complex but most people own the buildings but not the land, and most of the common property is maintained by an HOA
20:17 < ekaj> Chode_Man65: ?
20:17 < ebol4> i see
20:17 < Chode_Man65> ekaj:  i live in the midwest 5 bath but not 200 acres
20:17 < Chode_Man65> maybe 50-60 acres
20:17 < Chode_Man65> average acre is 7k
20:17 < ekaj> I'm east
20:17 < ekaj> I can get an acre for 1k in some places
20:17 < catbeard> hey do you want to be a farmer? here's a couple of achers
20:17 < Chode_Man65> i'm saying in the usa on average its 7k an acre
20:17 < ebol4> achers
20:17 < Chode_Man65> ekaj: of desert?
20:17 < ekaj> No, WV
20:17 < catbeard> ebol4: schwarzenegger line
20:17 < StrongBad> 1 acre in the town where I live is 325k lol
20:17 < aName> Started watching Mr Robot. Damn. The technobabble isn't babble.
20:18 < Chode_Man65> thats suprising usually east is even more expensive
20:18 < StrongBad> and no utilities
20:18 < catbeard> aName: sort of is
20:18 < Chode_Man65> ekaj: wooded i take it?
20:18 < ekaj> Some is, some isn't
20:18 < aName> catbeard: Eh, it's not perfect, it's fiction
20:18 < catbeard> their comments about the VPN traces at the "secret place"
20:18 < Chode_Man65> farmable land is obviously more expensive
20:18 < catbeard> like have they never heard of tor
20:18 < aName> catbeard: But it's so, so, SO much better than average
20:18 < ekaj> 4 BR 1 bath with 280 acre farm sold the other day for 180k
20:18 < catbeard> lots of people vpn to tor, which is bad
20:18 < Chode_Man65> curious how is shodan.io even legal
20:18 < ekaj> with half gas rights
20:18 < aName> catbeard: lol wut
20:18 < Chode_Man65> its indexing stuff that can be exploited
20:18 < catbeard> you should tor to vpn, so you're not connecting a known to an unknown
20:19 < aName> catbeard: That defeats the point
20:19 < catbeard> instead an unknown to a known
20:19 < ebol4> Chode_Man65: it's just indexing things connected to the internet, not necessarily things that can be exploited
20:19 < catbeard> so you have vpn creds but the vpn provider doesn't know where you're connecting from, so your vpn provider can't sell you out
20:20 < admiralspark> StrongBad: I rent a 3bd/3ba townhouse for $1050/mo, and pay electric. That's it. And $15./mo renters insurance
20:20 < admiralspark> and if I need to move, I can just do it without having to worry about selling a house with a huge loan on it
20:20 < ekaj> I feel bad for you people in expensive places lol
20:20 < catbeard> also useless trick of the day for win10 users
20:20 < catbeard> WinKey + .
20:21 < ekaj> 🤣
20:21 < aName> 👍
20:21 < admiralspark> catbeard: spam eggplants
20:21 < catbeard> 🍆
20:21 < rootsudo> admiralspark that's a great deal
20:21 < rootsudo> Florida changed
20:21 < khelpw> ctrl + win + C = grayscale on win10 if color themes are enabled.
20:21 < ekaj> 😜👌🍆
20:21 < ekaj> Funny thing is you can't copy/paste those
20:22 < catbeard> khelpw: i looked for that key combo for DAYS
20:22 < aName> 🍆☄
20:22 < aName> Do it right
20:22 < khelpw> That was a fun one to try to figure out when you've got a retarded user coming to you saying "IDK what I did but now my shit's black and white"
20:22 < estranger> 😜👌🍆 sure you can
20:22 < catbeard> after my screen went greyscale because i uninstalled f.lux while it was running
20:22 < aName> 😜👌🍆
20:22 < aName> 2:21 PM Funny thing is you can't copy/paste those
20:22 < estranger> lol
20:22 < Chode_Man65> 😜👌🍆
20:22 < Chode_Man65> you can drag and drop them tho aName
20:23 < estranger> I͇͙̮̥̱ A̗̲̝M͙̝̻ͅ ̶̭A̵͇̹ ̭̞̪̫͇G͏O̧̪͎̠ͅL̪͙̳̬̼̦̟̀DE̼Ņ̱͓̹̘͖̲̗ ͙͔̙̮G̠͓̺̩O̰̺̹̱̱̘D̮̻̲̥̹́
20:23 < aName> Chode_Man65: ctrl+c, ctrl+v
20:23 < Chode_Man65> 😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌
20:23 < Chode_Man65> 🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆😜👌🍆
20:23 < aName> estranger: Shut up, Zalgo doesn't even like you.
20:23 < aName> Chode_Man65: kbye
20:23 < Chode_Man65> 👋
20:23 < estranger> lol
20:24 < alazare619> kick evaded!
20:24 < ekaj> why do emojis seem so cancerous?
20:24 < alazare619> idk my wife talks in emoji
20:24 < alazare619> i send her an eggplant
20:25 < admiralspark> the fuck
20:25 < alazare619> and i get a 🚷
20:25 < admiralspark> woah
20:25 < alazare619> 🤮
20:25 < alazare619> that too
20:26 < GreyKite> what the fuck
20:27 < MillerBOSS> https://robertheaton.com/2018/07/02/stylish-browser-extension-steals-your-internet-history/
20:27 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  "Stylish" browser extension steals all your internet history | Robert Heaton
20:27 < StrongBad> back when I was your age we made emojis with the keyboard, and we LIKED it!
20:27 < MillerBOSS> asl
20:28 < catbeard> https://hastebin.com/acalojizul.pl
20:28 < catbeard> wheee
20:28 < desgen> .pl does that mean it's a perl script?
20:28 < estranger> +++ NO CARRIER
20:28 < kronis> Afternoon, folks
20:28 < MillerBOSS> WHAT?
20:28 < desgen> should I launch it
20:28 < estranger> let me turn it up for you
20:29 < estranger> ATM3
20:29 < desgen> I'm launching it
20:29 < MillerBOSS> Thanks estranger
20:29 < kronis> It's a honeypot, don't do it.
20:29 < desgen> I'm totally trusting you
20:29 < ekaj> some guy has 200 router bits for sale on facebook $5 each
20:29 < estranger> no problem
20:29 < ekaj> imma get me some router bits
20:29 < desgen> I'm running it
20:29 < catbeard> desgen: yes it does
20:29 < desgen> I'M RUNNING IT
20:29 < catbeard> run it on a cpanel server that has curl/lynx and `cpan Term::ANSIColor` installed
20:29 < alazare619> so for whatever reason the hp ml10v2 does not auto boot off usb
20:29 < alazare619> rnadomly it just refused to see usb at all kinda weird
20:30 < desgen> ok something is doing something
20:30 < desgen> -- Scoreboard --
20:30 < desgen> -- Top IPs --
20:30 < desgen> -- Top vhosts --
20:30 < kronis> You ded son
20:30 < catbeard> adjust to your extendedstatus handler url
20:30 < catbeard> it will red highlight abusers
20:31 < catbeard> and high usage vhosts, you can adjust the threshold vars near the top
20:32 < desgen> How do I abuse myself to test it
20:33 < catbeard> ab or slowloris
20:33 < catbeard> or loadimpact
20:33 < catbeard> or blitz.io
20:33 < desgen> just abuse me
20:33 < desgen> 73.146.128.191
20:33  * catbeard sets this IP to the other end of a DDoS GRE tunnel
20:33 < desgen> careful, it's my home IP
20:34 < desgen> don't do something shitty
20:34 < catbeard> die comcast die!
20:34 < kronis> DDOS icmp style, how'd you like it?
20:34 < Alternity> <desgen> How do I abuse myself // wrong channel
20:35 < desgen> I shouldn't be vulnerable
20:35 < desgen> "shouldn't"
20:35 < desgen> but I don't see anything yet
20:36 < catbeard> make sure your /server-status handler is valid
20:36 < catbeard> and that you get the ...................... scoreboard stuff
20:36 < desgen> I i'm not running any servers, would this be an issue?
20:36 < catbeard> yes
20:36 < desgen> well then
20:37 < ekaj> desgen: what are you wanting, a vuln scan?
20:37 < desgen> nah, curious about his script mainly
20:37 < desgen> anything needing a vuln scan is on the VPS I have
20:38 < admiralspark> which is what address? :P
20:38 < ekaj> I need to work on my VPS and homelab
20:38 < admiralspark> I could kick you a Nessus report if you want
20:38 < ekaj> I might just get a public IP for my home and make it easy on myself
20:38 < catbeard> ec2 egress gateway
20:39 < desgen> admiralspark, I'll look to see for sensitive information first before such
20:39 < catbeard> i like to use reverse ssh tunnels
20:39 < catbeard> so no inbound pinholes
20:39 < admiralspark> desgen: kk
20:39 < desgen> yeah nothing is running on it
20:39 <+giant_it_burrit> ekaj: why not dynamic dns
20:40 < vinrock> dynamic dns is for losers
20:40 < ekaj> behind nat
20:40 < desgen> 104.225.223.186
20:40 < ekaj> like 10 layers of nat
20:40 < ekaj> nat everywhere
20:40 < vinrock> deez nats
20:40 < desgen> I think I have an apache server going
20:40 <+DrGibby|> nat within nat within nat
20:40 < desgen> but it's default
20:40 < Alternity> i put a nat in your nat so you can nat while you nat
20:40 < ekaj> at least 5 nats off the top of my head
20:41 <+DrGibby|> STATIC ROUTES EVERYWHERE
20:41 < ekaj> REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
20:41 < catbeard> RIP routes
20:41 < Alternity> we only use bridges and hubs
20:41 <+DrGibby|> * IS DIRECTLY CONNECTED
20:41 < ekaj> Anyone here know a lot about wood router bits?
20:41 < estranger> heh
20:41 < catbeard> vlan bridge fws
20:41 < desgen> oh, it's running csf firewal
20:42 < desgen> heavily restricted
20:42 < vinrock> ekaj thats a very confusing question to ask in a sysadmin channel
20:42 < onenerdyguy> ekaj, suprisingly yes. whats up
20:42 < ekaj> vinrock: that's why I specified wood =p
20:43 < desgen> I don't see anything attempting to penetrate me yet
20:43 < rootsudo> desgen wear a condom
20:43 < aName> desgen: That sucks.
20:43 < desgen> am I that unattractive
20:43 < vinrock> giggity
20:43 < ekaj> onenerdyguy: Some guy is selling all these $5 each, says a lot of them are Vermont American and Century... you know if those brands are worth buying to resell? https://i.imgur.com/Ri3BIti.jpg
20:43 <+layer-eight> * ekaj →  IMGUR Image → Image/jpeg → a minute ago → 720x540 → ⚘ 3
20:44 < rootsudo> ekaj worthless
20:44 < rootsudo> but if you don't mind waiting a few months
20:44 < ekaj> I assume the radius bits aren't bad
20:44 < rootsudo> buy for 2-3$ and do them via amazon FBA
20:44 < rootsudo> for $9.99
20:44 < onenerdyguy> ekaj, eh, they don't look like anything special
20:44 < ekaj> no I don't mind, I sell stuff on eBay all the time and I will use some myself
20:44 < onenerdyguy> ekaj, i'd say 5 bucks each isn't bad, but some are gonna be worth like 9, others 2, so yeah
20:44 < aName> Makes me wonder where they got them lol
20:44 < ekaj> probably 5 finger discount
20:44 < rootsudo> back of a a truck
20:45 < aName> Saw someone selling 528 tide pods the other day
20:45 < desgen> why does csf firewall request I use a swap file for security
20:45 < aName> Like... yeah, you got those legit lol
20:45 < desgen> tell it to shut up
20:45 < vinrock> mom & pop shop going out of bidnezz
20:45 < ekaj> the tongue and groove and radius bits are the ones I'm most interested in for reselling
20:45 < onenerdyguy> ekaj, the tongue and groove might get up to 15 or so a piece.
20:45 < onenerdyguy> ekaj, but on Ebay? prolly not.
20:45 < rootsudo> amazon is better for it
20:45 < aName> FBA is the way to go
20:45 < aName> Ship one big box to amazon and be done with it
20:46 < ekaj> how much of a cut do they take?
20:46 < rootsudo> 20-30%
20:46 < aName> Dunno, but I mean, they handle the marketing, billing, and fulfilment, so it's probably fair whatever it is lol
20:46 < rootsudo> close to ebay, usuall
20:46 < rootsudo> ebay is up to 15% now
20:46 < ekaj> right now I sell stuff on ebay, i think they take like.. 20%?
20:46 < rootsudo> yep 15-20%
20:46 < rootsudo> so fuck ebay
20:47 < rootsudo> man I forgot my old managers email address lol
20:47 < ekaj> they took $65 out of the 500 or so I sold last month which isn't too bad
20:47 < grumplestiltzkin> wat
20:47 < grumplestiltzkin> hory shit
20:47 < vinrock> ebay treats sellers like shit
20:47 < vinrock> thats why they are nothing but a shel of their former self
20:47 < vinrock> i used to flip cars on ebay and gave up because it wasnt worth it with all the fees
20:48 < ekaj> don't cars have extra fees?
20:48 < vinrock> fees out the wazoo
20:48 < desgen> Russian Federation tried connecting
20:48 < grumplestiltzkin> fleabay is more like amazon now, just storefront buy it now stuff, depending on what you are looking for, it's hard to even find the used, cheaper stuff anymore
20:48 < vinrock> desgen you should've had 10,000 attempted connections from china by now
20:48 < ekaj> rofl
20:48 < vinrock> ebay hasnt had shit for the longest time
20:49 < vinrock> when it first came out you would find literally anything there
20:49 < desgen> vinrock, I only see one russion IP and several SSDnodes related ones
20:51 < desgen> I think i've pissed whatever bot china was running on this IP by now but just flat out blanket banning all the communist countries
20:51 < alazare619> rip
20:51 < alazare619> a giant cell just formed and cirlced my entire town
20:51 < alazare619> all red
20:51 < MillerBOSS> They are coming for you
20:51 < alazare619> so long friends its been fun
20:51 < vinrock> ive got china blocked as well but still get eleventybillion connects a second from there
20:52 < vinrock> and after 5pm est it increases like 10x
20:52 < alazare619> vinrock: instead of block just have it drop without a response so it looks like a dead ip
20:52 < dragonfleas> My best friend just committed suicide guys....
20:52 < vinrock> thats basically what it does
20:52 < dragonfleas> Fuck dude I'm so fucking torn up right now
20:52 < vinrock> you for real
20:52 < dragonfleas> I don't even know if I should leave work or not
20:53 < MillerBOSS> Tennessee?
20:53 < dragonfleas> Like, I'm in shock right now and it hasn't fully hit me
20:53 < vinrock> go home dont stay with your head like that
20:53 <+DrGibby|> yeah, get home man, no need to be at work dealing with that
20:53 < Casteil> aww yeah
20:53 < Casteil> moved into the fancy corner office
20:53 <+giant_it_burrit> alazare619: ?
20:53 < vinrock> nice
20:53 < Casteil> standing desk, dual windows.. MOVIN UP IN THE WORLD, BABY
20:53 < vinrock> ew standing desk wtf
20:53 < dragonfleas> Dude, I was ignoring her because she betrayed me and a bunch of my friends with something major, then she blocked me on facebook, i didn't try to reach out to her, and i found out from her mom that she committed suicide this morning
20:54 <+JollyRgrs> Casteil: dual windows?
20:54 < dragonfleas> fuckkkkk
20:54 <+JollyRgrs> like you have two windows, side by side?
20:54 < dragonfleas> sorry to get dark guys, I just like don't know what to do
20:54 < vinrock> dont blame yourself man
20:54 < alazare619> giant_it_burrit: a supercell
20:54 < Casteil> vinrock: sitting/standing :P it can be adjusted
20:54 <+giant_it_burrit> dragonfleas: dont beat yourself up
20:54 < Casteil> and it's surprisingly stable even at full height
20:54 <+giant_it_burrit> you couldnt know
20:54 < alazare619> giant_it_burrit: but its litterally circled the entire city...the city looks like the hole of a donut the cell is the ring...
20:54 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: clear up any emergencies at work. Get home, or somewhere that you can be among friends. Do not be alone for the next little while.
20:54 <+JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: leave work
20:54 < Casteil> I might not use the standing position much but it's nice to have the height adjustable
20:54 < dragonfleas> Yeah, i need to finish up this test of document redirection but I'm going to leave right after....thank god it's friday
20:54 <+giant_it_burrit> its a family emergency
20:55 <+giant_it_burrit> health related
20:55 < Casteil> JollyRgrs: two windows in my office, one on each wall (it's a corner office)
20:55 <+giant_it_burrit> dragonfleas: is it that improtnat?
20:55 <+JollyRgrs> your mental state won't be sharp enough to do any jobs you are supposed to be doing... it is in the benefit of the company that you go home for the day, they'll understand
20:55 <+giant_it_burrit> can you do from home
20:55 < ThatOneRoadie> Anyone deployed the new UVC-G3-FLEX yet?
20:55 < dragonfleas> yeah i can do it from home, maybe i should postpone, i was just right in the middle of it, i just found out
20:55 < ThatOneRoadie> the $79 1080p PoE IP Cam with illuminators
20:55 < desgen> I'm going to make a script called CommieBlock
20:55 <+JollyRgrs> ThatOneRoadie: wait, what?
20:55 <+giant_it_burrit> dragonfleas: go home
20:55 < ekaj> desgen: fail2ban
20:55 < vinrock> didntthat just come out like, yesterday
20:55 <+JollyRgrs> only $79?
20:55 < desgen> nobody take this idea
20:55 < ThatOneRoadie> JollyRgrs, yep
20:55 <+JollyRgrs> that' a lot cheaper than their other cams
20:56 < ThatOneRoadie> indoor/outdoor too
20:56 < corn266> Anyone ever work with geo-Tif images before or can recommend software to programmatically pull lat/long info?
20:56 < ThatOneRoadie> and 802.3af
20:56 < dragonfleas> alazare619, did you ever go to the hospital?
20:56 <+JollyRgrs> ThatOneRoadie: what is it missing?
20:56 <+giant_it_burrit> dragonfleas: if you can do from home and it needs to be done today then fine
20:56 <+giant_it_burrit> but get home
20:56 < ThatOneRoadie> not shitty 24v poe
20:56 < desgen> ekaj, nah, more specific this time
20:56 < desgen> we need a change
20:56 < Casteil> npm audit fix
20:56 <+JollyRgrs> ThatOneRoadie: so what is it missing? :P
20:56 < desgen> for the better
20:56 < ThatOneRoadie> JollyRgrs, it's fixed, not PTZ
20:56 < alazare619> dragonfleas: was it over some chick...tell me it wasnt over some chick...had that happen to a good friend of mine (wasnt a best but very good friend) years ago
20:56 < Casteil> damnit
20:56 < ThatOneRoadie> aaaaand
20:56 < ThatOneRoadie> I think that's it
20:56 < ThatOneRoadie> oh and the mounting solutions... Don't look great
20:56 < alazare619> dragonfleas: i work in healthcare it so i went and talked to a doc that i'm friends with...
20:56 < dragonfleas> alazare619, best friend was a girl, she has had 2 previous attempts but seemed to be doing much better
20:56 < ThatOneRoadie> JollyRgrs, https://store.ubnt.com/products/unifi-video-g3-flex-camera-1
20:56 <+layer-eight> * ThatOneRoadie →  UniFi Video G3-FLEX Camera                       – Ubiquiti Networks
20:56 < ekaj> desgen: squint test
20:56 < desgen> lol
20:56 <+JollyRgrs> doesn't really look like an outdoor camera
20:57 < dragonfleas> I work with some counselors, maybe I can talk to my boss, he's a counselor
20:57 < ThatOneRoadie> It's outdoor but only when mounted in that orientation
20:57 < alazare619> dragonfleas: told me to take some metamuscil and yogurt to help regulate my digestive track and just take it easy they said i definetly have heat exhaustion and possibly HSD (stroke)
20:57 < ThatOneRoadie> it has a sealing cup for the ethernet jack and the rest of the body is sealed
20:57 < desgen> https://github.com/Jessexd/CommieBlock
20:57 <+layer-eight> * desgen →  GitHub → Jessexd → CommieBlock → Automated IP blocking of several infectious countries. → @ ~ a few seconds ago
20:57 <+JollyRgrs> ThatOneRoadie: i meant more for shielding lens from sun
20:57 < vinrock> heh
20:57 < ThatOneRoadie> oh yeah, no shade on it
20:57 < vinrock> i bet that project gets taken down for the name eventually
20:58 < alazare619> dragonfleas: ruff any children or anything?
20:58 <+DrGibby|> cryptic1: he noticed :(
20:58 < ThatOneRoadie> meant to be mounted under eaves, but it comes with a pole mount
20:58 < dragonfleas> I didn't know heatstroke/heat exhaustion could cause Hematemesis
20:58 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: you won't be able to work with your boss, but yes - find a counselor/MHC.
20:58 < desgen> vinrock, I'll move it somewhere else if so
20:58 < ThatOneRoadie> they might be relying on that iris to tone down the direct sunlight
20:58 < vinrock> fuck that fight the power
20:58 <+giant_it_burrit> dragonfleas: what he said
20:58 <+giant_it_burrit> go home
20:58 < ThatOneRoadie> QSG here JollyRgrs https://files.i4wifi.cz/inc/_doc/attach/StoItem/6881/UVC-G3_Flex_QSG.pdf
20:58 <+layer-eight> * ThatOneRoadie →  APPLICATION/PDF Document, 5,202,855 bytes
20:58 < alazare619> dragonfleas:  apparently the fact i have bleeding ulchers the extreme dehydration flared it up and the violent vommiting they are thinking
20:58 <+JollyRgrs> desgen: but your boss should understand teh situation
20:58 < vinrock> desgen is you arent already, you should also block seychelles
20:59 < vinrock> wrong person joly
20:59 <+JollyRgrs> desgen: sorry, lol
20:59 <+JollyRgrs> dragonfleas:  see above
21:00 < vinrock> "Want to know how easy it is to bypass authentication measures in an HPE Integrated Lights-Out 4 (iLO 4) server? Make a cURL request and then type the letter "A" 29 times."
21:00 < vinrock> wasn't like, a totally the same thing bug just fixed on something else
21:00 < alazare619> vinrock: just patched my ilo to 2.6 because of that
21:00 < vinrock> iphones or some shit
21:01 < vinrock> ive got one hp server and dont have the bmc networked but i kinda want to try this now
21:01 < alazare619> imagine the internet without search engines
21:01 < ThatOneRoadie> I don't have to
21:01 < vinrock> dude i remember
21:01 < ThatOneRoadie> I used it before then
21:01 < alazare619> vinrock: only works on ilo 4 version less than 2.53
21:01 < vinrock> you had to actually hunt for titties
21:01 < ThatOneRoadie> AOL Keyword: InternetHistory
21:01 < vinrock> alazare this is a ~2015 box
21:01 < vinrock> never used ilo on it
21:01 < alazare619> ThatOneRoadie: i mean imagine a modern internet without search engines
21:02 < ThatOneRoadie> Eh, I just use link aggregator sites anyways
21:02 < ThatOneRoadie> (reddit)
21:02 < ThatOneRoadie> and reddit doesn't have a search engine anyways so
21:02 < vinrock> reddit fuckin blows now
21:02 < corn266> reddit's search engine is some dude throwing darts at links
21:02 < alazare619> all about that 4chan.org/b/
21:03 < Jagster`> yeah reddit sucks ever since they changed their top algorythms
21:03 < vinrock> ever since they hired chairman pao to be the scapegoat for selling the site off to advertisers to astroturf non stop
21:04 < alazare619> Jagster`: you still working at you know where?
21:04 < alazare619> if so wtf is up with the current meta...like seriously?!
21:05 < alazare619> your bosses need to lay off the lsd before big meetings
21:05 < dragonfleas> ok i'm going home now
21:06 < vinrock> be strong brothaman
21:06 < alazare619> dragonfleas:  how did you find out?
21:06 < ebol4> brotherman bill
21:06 < vinrock> stronk
21:06 < dragonfleas> her mom texted me
21:07 < alazare619> hopefully it was a clean passing ... and not a messy one....take care brother flea
21:09 < desgen> https://www.statista.com/statistics/266169/highest-malware-infection-rate-countries/
21:09 <+layer-eight> * desgen →  •  Countries with the highest malware infection rate 2016 | Statistic
21:09 < desgen> going to have to block turkey I guess
21:09 <+JollyRgrs> ThatOneRoadie: https://youtu.be/f6zITSH7XNY?t=464
21:09 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  ⚓  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6zITSH7XNY&feature=youtu.be&t=464 → YouTube → UVC-G3-Flex → ⚘ 18,676 ↑ 616 ↓ 10 ✍ 104
21:09 <+JollyRgrs> the PQ isn't nearly as good
21:09 < alazare619> fuck that just block all them
21:09 < alazare619> if the infection is 1/3 screw that the entire country is dead to me
21:10 <+JollyRgrs> nope
21:10 <+JollyRgrs> oops, wrong window
21:10 <+DrGibby|> JollyRgrs: yup
21:10 < vinrock> i wish i could block em all but we do bidness all over the world
21:10 < vinrock> cept china
21:10 < vinrock> so fuck those guys
21:10 < vinrock> oh also vietnam is a buncha baddies
21:10 < ekaj> run to the jungle
21:11 < vinrock> i seen connections from nk before and go so excited
21:11 < vinrock> only to find out its all a lie
21:11 < vinrock> :(
21:11 < desgen> everyone is a bot
21:11 < desgen> you're all bots
21:11 < vinrock> bots bots bots
21:11 < vinrock> botsbotsbots
21:11 < alazare619> what i want to do is create a drop that is drop all unless associated or ip is a valid usa address
21:12 < desgen> I wish it was possible to pre-drop
21:12 < narziss> it is possible. router in front of a router.
21:12 < narziss> TADA
21:12 < desgen> lol
21:14 <+DrGibby|> yes, have a router pre-route traffic for your router
21:14 < ekaj> buy a fance IPS
21:14 < ekaj> *fancy
21:14 < ekaj> or pfsense
21:14 <+DrGibby|> seems like something really shit marketing department would come up
21:15 <+DrGibby|> with
21:15 < ekaj> routers in front of routers?
21:15 <+DrGibby|> no!
21:15 < vinrock> pofsense can do geolocation?
21:15 <+DrGibby|> Prerouters before your router!
21:15 < ekaj> https://turbofuture.com/internet/How-to-Configure-pfBlocker-An-IP-Block-List-and-Country-Block-Package-for-pfSense
21:15 <+layer-eight> * ekaj →  How to Configure pfBlocker: An IP List and Country Block Package for pfSense | TurboFuture
21:15 <+DrGibby|> Hyper Converged Prerouting Procols!
21:15 < vinrock> neato
21:15 < ekaj> I just googled that btw if you get hacked not my fault
21:16 <+DrGibby|> (tm)
21:17 < F34RInc> ekaj, even though thats for 2.x it should still be valid.  Not much on the GeoIP part has changed.
21:19 < ekaj> really security center won't let you combine combation assets
21:19 < ekaj> i want combinations of my combinations
21:19 < estranger> guys, what the hell is this? Listed under Slack Advanced Options https://i.imgur.com/YfqFqTV.png
21:19 <+layer-eight> * estranger →  IMGUR Image → Image/png → a few seconds ago → 1210x440 → ⚘ 4
21:19 <+DrGibby|> estranger: click it
21:20 < ekaj> I tried to google it
21:20 < ekaj> but everyone has clickbait shit
21:20 < estranger> lol i went here first
21:20 <+DrGibby|> just fucking click it
21:20 < ekaj> "CLICK IT AND FIND OUT"
21:21 <+TuxedoJack> Welp, that's fucking stupid
21:21 <+DrGibby|> buncha pansies
21:21 < ekaj> i don't have slack u scrub DrGibby|
21:21 <+TuxedoJack> A fucking teddy bear high-five
21:21 < estranger> HAHAH
21:21 < estranger> yeah wtf
21:26 < kronis> Pfsense cryptic1
21:27 < GreyKite> TuxedoJack: is that the suprise?
21:27 < kronis> Yes
21:27 < kronis> I'm so tired, good lord I need a nap.
21:28 < vinrock> lawdamercy
21:28 < vinrock> shabbah
21:33 <+TuxedoJack> GreyKite: yes
21:33 <+TuxedoJack> Right
21:33 <+TuxedoJack> I'm going to go sit down with kittens and snuggle them
21:33 <+TuxedoJack> As opposed to dealing with fucking Barracuda
21:34 < GreyKite> TuxedoJack: that sounds perfectly reasonable
21:34 < onenerdyguy> so rolled out the Windows admin Center today
21:34 < onenerdyguy> holy crap, I like this
21:37 < GreyKite> onenerdyguy: yeah?
21:37 < GreyKite> I seem to recall you being a heavy linux leaner
21:37 < onenerdyguy> GreyKite, the insider preview one now shows you the powershell it's running behind the seens
21:38 < onenerdyguy> GreyKite, and I am a huge linux guy. But you can't get away from MS
21:38 < Heresiarch> you can, it's just very difficult.
21:39 < GreyKite> onenerdyguy: I'm a networking/linux guy working on Windows desktops because I have to pay bills
21:39 < onenerdyguy> and unless you've got the staffing and skillset to do it, it's not worht it
21:39 < onenerdyguy> GreyKite, same
21:39 < alazare619> onenerdyguy: you mean project huaweei?
21:39 < alazare619> or honolulu or whatever
21:39 < onenerdyguy> alazare619, been officially renamed ha
21:39 < alazare619> yea i beta tested it
21:39 < alazare619> it is fucking phenominal
21:40 < onenerdyguy> look at the new version
21:40 < onenerdyguy> 2008 support if you're a monster, but showing the powershell for eachc ommand!
21:42 < GreyKite> onenerdyguy: hmmmmmm I may need to beg for this
21:42 < onenerdyguy> GreyKite, um, it's free
21:42 < onenerdyguy> GreyKite, and you can install it on any Win10 device, or a server in gateway mode for multiuser
21:43 < GreyKite> onenerdyguy: right but I need permission to use it
21:43 < onenerdyguy> damn sec teams
21:43 < alazare619> onenerdyguy: oh shit 2008
21:43 < alazare619> onenerdyguy: it use to be only 2012r2
21:43 < onenerdyguy> alazare619, not full support, cuz it's fricken 2008. and yeah, it used to only go to 2012r2
21:44 < Jekotia> I've fallen in love with json & api's. Spent 4.5 hours late at work yesterday working on a bash script to monitor github releases and send notifications
21:44 < onenerdyguy> i hope I never fall in love with JSON
21:44 < onenerdyguy> or REST
21:44 < Jekotia> what's wrong with either of those?
21:44 < onenerdyguy> nothing. i just never want to deal with em
21:45 < Jekotia> jq makes json easy as fuck
21:45 < onenerdyguy> its pigheaded of me, but i'd prefer just a straight up cli interface I can script or control via ansible or something
21:45 < AnimalFarmPig> I like json
21:45 < Jekotia> "command line interface interface"? :P
21:46 < onenerdyguy> yes
21:46 < AnimalFarmPig> oh, not a great idea for config files, but nice for sending data around
21:46 < onenerdyguy> i want an interface into interface
21:47 < Jekotia> I just wish it was easier to find the release api's for developers. Took me an hour last night to find https://wiki.mozilla.org/Release_Management/Product_details :|
21:47 <+layer-eight> * Jekotia →  The Product-Details JSON API - MozillaWiki
21:48 < Jekotia> You get dozens of similar but unrelated results about development processes/timelines/etc trying to find this shit :c
21:48 < Jekotia> I DONT CARE HOW YOU DEVELOP I JUST WANT TO PROGRAMATICALLY FIND OUT WHEN YOU RELEASE. kthxbai
21:49 < corn266> I like to release sporatically and without announcement. 5pm on a friday? yup
21:50 < AnimalFarmPig> Jekotia: just download Firefox every hour and compare the hash to the previous one. When it changes, you know they released
21:50 < AnimalFarmPig> ezpz
21:50 < Heresiarch> onenerdyguy: ...resistance is futile. You will be { "status": "assimilated" }.
21:50 < Jekotia> AnimalFarmPig: And inefficient as fuck :P
21:50 < onenerdyguy> Heresiarch, GET
21:50 < alazare619> i really wish unms would fucking just integrate UNMS
21:50 < AnimalFarmPig> Jekotia: unmetered bandwidth hosting :P
21:50 < alazare619> and be done with it all
21:50 < alazare619> err unifi
21:50 < Jekotia> AnimalFarmPig: It's not about the bandwidth
21:50 < onenerdyguy> alazare619, UNMS is a bastard and should die
21:50  * aName grumbles. People really shouldn't mark tickets as URGENT if they're not going to respond when I ask a followup question.
21:51 < alazare619> UNMS is amazing and unifi should just die
21:51 < onenerdyguy> Jekotia, it's all about the Pentium's Baby
21:51 < onenerdyguy> alazare619, you shut your whore mouth
21:51 < alazare619> have you not used it lately onenerdyguy ?
21:51 < alazare619> it supports everything now fully with the exception of unifi
21:51 < onenerdyguy> alazare619, I know it's better, but have ou used Unifi 5.9 yet?
21:51 < alazare619> yes i have
21:51 < Jekotia> AnimalFarmPig: It's that the same thing can be achieved by checking https://product-details.mozilla.org/1.0/firefox_versions.json
21:51 <+layer-eight> * Jekotia →  APPLICATION/JSON Document, 335 bytes - ({ "FIREFOX_NIGHTLY": "63.0a...)
21:51 < onenerdyguy> and it's AMAZING
21:51  * adamb pokes firefoxes release api with curl -XDELETE
21:51 < alazare619> i run both at home...
21:51 < onenerdyguy> though honestly, all I've got left for Unifi at home are the cameras and 3 AP's
21:52 < onenerdyguy> the rest is now extreme
21:52 < AnimalFarmPig> Jekotia: sure, but that requires you to read documentation, find that file, etc.
21:52 < alazare619> onenerdyguy: whats extreme?
21:52 < genr8_> AnimalFarmPig: grep
21:52 < onenerdyguy> alazare619, Extreme Networks. Purple gear
21:52 < AnimalFarmPig> genr8_: he was mentioning how hard it was to find the documentation saying where that file is
21:53 < adamb> I share a comms room with a network that uses extreme, purple paint with blue lights is an exceptionally stylish combination for a rack
21:53 < Jagster`> yeah alazare619
21:53 < Jekotia> AnimalFarmPig: You're method would also, when the computers gain sentenience, make the computers think you're brain dead. "This idiot had me download the same file every hour for a year, compare it, and then delete it. The fuck?"
21:53 < genr8_> grep -R * ?
21:53 < alazare619> Jagster`: see above wtf are they thinking with this current meta of lets make the support a carry -___-
21:54 < AnimalFarmPig> Jekotia: Sure, but it would probably also be annoying to Mozilla and your hosting provider. Especially if you up the frequency.
21:54 < alazare619> onenerdyguy: i'm sitting here wondering if you can do a mesh with the aircubes
21:54 < Jagster`> i bet if you look on the pbe forums
21:54 < alazare619> onenerdyguy: id totally pick up 3 or 4 cubs if they can mesh
21:54 < onenerdyguy> god why would you want to
21:54 < Jagster`> theres a game dev talking about their thoughts on the support role
21:54 < vinrock> i know some people running extreme gear
21:54 < onenerdyguy> just get the Mesh access points.
21:54 < vinrock> 'i just havent been interested because its all purple
21:54 < onenerdyguy> vinrock, current gig is all extreme. It does a good job
21:54 < AnimalFarmPig> Brazil is out, amigos!
21:54 < vinrock> womp womp
21:54 < alazare619> onenerdyguy:  the only ones that are mesh are either amplifi or unifi again not managed in UNMS
21:55 < vinrock> when does russia play croatia
21:55 < AnimalFarmPig> Can't wait to see a Croatia vs Belgium finals
21:55 < vinrock> or did they
21:55 < onenerdyguy> alazare619, screw UNMS
21:55 < AnimalFarmPig> this weekend I think
21:55 < vinrock> ah
21:55 < vinrock> i hope russia wins
21:55 < AnimalFarmPig> tomorrow at 1 PM central time
21:55 < vinrock> so i can read people blaming hackers on it
21:55 < AnimalFarmPig> I like both teams
21:55 < AnimalFarmPig> people are already blaming it on russian players doping
21:56 < vinrock> lol
21:56 < GreyKite> AnimalFarmPig: well, russia does kinda have a reputation
21:56 < vinrock> thts right doping is the sport version of russian hackers
21:56 < GreyKite> and a state run doping ring
21:57 < alazare619> onenerdyguy: why are you against UNMS so much?
21:57 < AnimalFarmPig> to be fair, the western public does have a reputation for believing negative stories about Russia without question
21:57 < AnimalFarmPig> onenerdyguy: write your own NMS with hookers and blow?
21:57 < vinrock> we have always been at war with eastasia
21:58 < onenerdyguy> alazare619, i don't like having 2, and unifi came first.
21:59 < onenerdyguy> AnimalFarmPig, and blackjack!
21:59 < grumplestiltzkin> AnimalFarmPig: well, to be fair - didn't russia, as a country, get barred from the olympics for just that reason?
22:00 < alazare619> onenerdyguy: agreed i hate having 2 you realize unms when it was designed was going to replace unifi
22:00 < AnimalFarmPig> I've been helping a client build his own NMS for the last year. Would be a lot further on in the process if I didn't have a coworker "helping"
22:00 < onenerdyguy> alazare619, i could care less what wins, as long as it's only 1
22:00 < vinrock> go kick over a server rack and tell em to fix it
22:00 < alazare619> but people bitched they wanted to keep unifi so they are developing unms till its feature parity with unifi then deprecating unifi
22:00 < onenerdyguy> alazare619, sadly, with the way their stock is performing, it's a big "if" at this poitn
22:00 < Bru-> arg
22:00 < AnimalFarmPig> grumplestiltzkin: sad example of politics infecting the Olympics
22:00 < Bru-> solarwinds SMART alerts
22:01 < alazare619> onenerdyguy: their stock taking a shit?
22:01 < genr8_> the olympic IOC cleared russia of all doping wrongdoing and theyre back in the future olympics
22:01 < genr8_> but clearly theres more scandals to be had with them
22:01 < adamb> Don't worry, network vendors don't go out of business they just get bought by cisco and ruined
22:01 < onenerdyguy> alazare619, yep
22:01 < rootsudo> wow what the fuck
22:01 < rootsudo> I'm losing it
22:01 < onenerdyguy> alazare619, after they had that big issue with someone transferring cash out who shouldnt
22:02 < Bru-> embrace
22:02 < Bru-> extend
22:02 < Bru-> extinguish
22:02 < onenerdyguy> Guys I made a huge mistake
22:02 < onenerdyguy> I bought 20 lbs of Frooties candies
22:02 < onenerdyguy> ideally for the office to share
22:02 < onenerdyguy> I"VE EATEN SO MANY
22:02 < Bru-> noice
22:02 < Bru-> ruh roh
22:02 < adamb> So what's the mistake?
22:02 < adamb> Not buyig 40lb?
22:02 < Heresiarch> onenerdyguy: diabeetus.
22:03 < onenerdyguy> Heresiarch, yep
22:03 < hxcsp> onenerdyguy: just order mroe before they notice
22:03 < onenerdyguy> oh no
22:03 < onenerdyguy> it's not that I'm worried they'll notie
22:03 < onenerdyguy> my body is a temple, and I just filled it with sugar
22:03 < onenerdyguy> i'm bouncing off the walls again
22:03 < onenerdyguy> (oh woah oh)
22:04 < grumplestiltzkin> AnimalFarmPig: I mena, did that not happen?    like was it politics, or did a whole bunch of athletes get caught?    I just wasn't aware that there was any controversy about it   - like, the clean athletes still got to compete under a different banner iirc 'association of russian athletes' or something
22:04 < adamb> onenerdyguy: Just steal some insulin from a diabetic then go for seconds
22:05 < Heresiarch> onenerdyguy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsGYh8AacgY
22:05 <+layer-eight> * Heresiarch →  YouTube → Charlie the Unicorn → ⚘ 32,151,215 ↑ 221,482 ↓ 10,307 ✍ 33,376
22:05 < AnimalFarmPig> grumplestiltzkin: the IOC said insufficient evidence of doping
22:05 < AnimalFarmPig> but Russia had already been banned
22:06 < genr8_> the IOC is as wack as FIFA
22:06 < grumplestiltzkin> oh, then that's a scandal right there.  I hadn't heard that part
22:06 < desgen> opinions for commie black, write it in bash or python?
22:07 < desgen> commie black lol
22:07 < desgen> commieblock
22:07 < adamb> not 100% sure what your question was, but the answer is always python
22:07 < desgen> so bash?
22:07 < desgen> perl?
22:08 < Heresiarch> desgen: which is better, a wrench or a screwdriver?
22:08 < desgen> /dev/null?
22:08 < AnimalFarmPig> commieblock? Like a Soviet housing project?
22:08 < grumplestiltzkin> Heresiarch: hammer
22:09 < Heresiarch> grumplestiltzkin: desgen said bash or python, not java.
22:09 < desgen> It's not much completed so I can't link it
22:09 < desgen> https://github.com/Jessexd/CommieBlock
22:09 <+layer-eight> * desgen →  GitHub → Jessexd → CommieBlock → Automated IP blocking of several infectious countries. → @ ~ an hour ago
22:09 < desgen> I linked it anyway
22:09 < adamb> python
22:09 < AnimalFarmPig> oh, neat
22:09 < AnimalFarmPig> how is it going to work?
22:09 < desgen> probably iptables
22:09 < aName> lololol.... shared a user's calendar to another user... and they're complaining it 'doesn't work' when it says it already exists
22:09 < AnimalFarmPig> how will you get and maintain the block list?
22:10 < desgen> http://www.nirsoft.net/countryip/cn.html
22:10 <+layer-eight> * desgen →  Major IP Address Blocks For China
22:10 < desgen> for example
22:10 < aName> Like, I don't know how they can type out the whole error message and not go 'Oh. Nevermind.'
22:10 < adamb> it already kind of exists anyway, desgen
22:10 < adamb> http://ipdeny.com/
22:10 <+layer-eight> * adamb →  IPdeny IP country blocks
22:10 < desgen> adamb, this one is more for causality
22:10 < rootsudo> 時が過ぎて大人になる
22:10 < adamb> but really
22:11  * adamb pulls out his soapbox
22:11 < adamb> blocking countries is just a bandaid on a more fundamental problem
22:11 < desgen> Communism?
22:11 < rootsudo> it pisses me off
22:11 < rootsudo> if I'm in SEA
22:11 < adamb> if rando's from russia are compromising your boxes, then you have deeper issues
22:11 < rootsudo> all my shite is block and I have to VPN
22:11 < AnimalFarmPig> would be fun to write that in bash
22:11 < grumplestiltzkin> ^  Commies are generally the cause
22:11 < rootsudo> Commies don't have it so bad
22:11 < onenerdyguy> whats wrong with commies?
22:12 < vinrock> they sure like to portscan
22:12 < desgen> adamb, Better to block access to any port anyway
22:12 < desgen> Even if
22:12 < rootsudo> they have a nice political system that I think if america were to embrace it would benefit everyone
22:12 < AnimalFarmPig> adamb: not like you're going to hurt anything by blocking those countries though
22:12 < desgen> who knows, when you got a bot poking at you 100% of the time
22:12 < vinrock> i block china as a whole, but if anyone hits a closed port it blocks them too for 24h
22:12 < adamb> sure, but spend the time hardening your systems instead first
22:12 < desgen> ofc, you should.
22:12 < onenerdyguy> vinrock, i block china, russia, and most of the middle east
22:12 < AnimalFarmPig> it can be used as a component of defense in depth, if you care about security things (which I don't)
22:12 < desgen> someone targeting you manually likely is going to notice a block
22:12 < onenerdyguy> and a good chunk of eastern Europe
22:12 < vinrock> honestly russia aint that bad from what i see here
22:12 < desgen> so this is more for bots, and annoying ones
22:13 < vinrock> 8 different ip blocks in 2 states
22:13 < AnimalFarmPig> vinrock: how you never mistype a port number
22:13 < grumplestiltzkin> if you don't do business outside your own country, blocking all other countries isn't a bad first step while you get your security set up
22:13 < vinrock> afp never been an issue
22:13 < AnimalFarmPig> let me just visit http://localhost:8008... shit, it's 8080!
22:13 < vinrock> plus i whitelist certain hosts i can always ssh into and gain access from if i get blocked
22:13 < rootsudo> grumplestiltzkin +1 but we all kno
22:13 < rootsudo> band aids become permenat
22:13 < AnimalFarmPig> okay :)
22:13 < adamb> with azure and aws buying IP blocks left right and centre, geoblocking of all forms is becoming less and less useful - connections from russia, nk, etc. don't often originate from those countries anymore
22:13 < AnimalFarmPig> errr... localhost is bad example, but you get the idea
22:13 < vinrock> lawl
22:14 < desgen> adamb, my logs say otherwise
22:14 < AnimalFarmPig> adamb: sure, but, again, nothing of value is lost by blocking many countries
22:14 < desgen> I have nothing running on this VPS
22:14 < AnimalFarmPig> and it's pretty easy
22:14 < desgen> and only get connections from bullshit countries
22:14 < desgen> if it's in US, it's an IP in the range of ssdnodes
22:14 < desgen> which is my provider
22:15 < adamb> AnimalFarmPig: ehhhhhhhhhh... if you have a SIEM the telemetry is useful
22:16 < desgen> and to be honest, aws, google, etc... all monitor abuse
22:16 < desgen> so it's unlikely, or at least at less risk when you have a bot coming from them
22:17 < desgen> or connection, rather
22:17 < adamb> tbh, complete opposite - if you see something originating from AWS/Azure it likely means you're dealing with someone competent
22:18 < adamb> either well resourced and can burn money, or has already compromised a system to pivot from
22:18 < desgen> They should just use the botnet the likely have a worldwide network of
22:18 < desgen> from all unsuspecting idiots
22:20 < shanth> anyone else use 'the lounge' as their irc client? it's neat
22:20 < catbeard> tried it, meh
22:20 < desgen> this is my opinion
22:20 < desgen> it isn't coming from experience adamb
22:20 < desgen> well, professional experience
22:20 < catbeard> if they can connect thelounge to a weechat relay port
22:20 < catbeard> that would be great
22:21 < shanth> there's some other thing that does that. i was looking in a reddit thread about current irc clients
22:21 < desgen> catbeard, is it in package managers
22:21 < desgen> or do I have to compile it
22:21 < shanth> >Weechat + Glowing -bear
22:21 < desgen> I hate compiling things
22:21 < adamb> learn irssi and never look back
22:21 < catbeard> i custom compiled mine
22:22 < catbeard> tis pretty pimped
22:22 < desgen> arch as an aur
22:22 < shanth> what does irssi do that i should know about adamb? i pretty much only send basic messages in irc
22:22 < desgen> let's see if yaourt doesn't fuck it up
22:22 < desgen> fuck arch honestly
22:23 < adamb> it's a cli irc client, and as we all know the cli is the superior form of human-computer interaction
22:23 < desgen> here comes the compile
22:23 < desgen> ready for the certain error
22:23 < shanth> the annoying thing for me is i use different computers in different offices and they have different firewall rules. can't use a desktop irc client everywhere
22:23 < shanth> this web client is working out real nice for me, real nice
22:24 <+JollyRgrs> shanth: weechat++++++++++++++++
22:24 < adamb> just run it on a VPS, use tmux for persistance
22:24 <+JollyRgrs> glowingbear, i'm not a fan of
22:24 < desgen> it worked, surprise!
22:24 <+JollyRgrs> shanth: exactly what adamb said. i run weechat in a tmux session (previously screen) and just SSH in frmo wherever
22:24 < catbeard> https://i.imgur.com/GDGEJVC.png
22:24 <+layer-eight> * catbeard →  IMGUR Image → Image/png → a few seconds ago → 1876x1006 → ⚘ 7
22:24 < desgen> send me a configuration
22:25 < desgen> I cant be fucked
22:25 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, instead of having visual cues to help you discover functionality of your GUI irc client, you can instead just memorize the manual for your CLI irc client
22:25 < AnimalFarmPig> way better
22:25 < catbeard> it has mouse integration as well
22:25 < desgen> do I really have to configure it
22:25 <+JollyRgrs> i use my mouse all the time in weechat
22:25 <+JollyRgrs> i don't have to
22:25 <+JollyRgrs> but i can
22:25 < desgen> or can someone just spoonfeed
22:25 < shanth> what are some of the killer features of weechat that i should be using? i'm open to trying it for sure
22:25 < catbeard> relay for sure
22:25 < adamb> catbeard's setup is way better than mine
22:25 <+JollyRgrs> shanth: it's nice :P
22:25 < catbeard>  /secure
22:26 <+DrGibby|> irssi for lyfe
22:26 <+JollyRgrs> the built in relay is awesome, and they have a nice android client
22:26 < catbeard> and /iset
22:26 <+JollyRgrs> catbeard: /fset
22:26 < catbeard> meh
22:26 <+JollyRgrs> /iset is so old
22:26  * adamb hands AnimalFarmPig an etch-a-sketch
22:26 < catbeard> i like my alt toggle
22:26 < AnimalFarmPig> I like quassel, because it keeps history of all my my channels in a postgres database that I can then query
22:26 < catbeard> with /script
22:26 < shanth> what are you guys using the relay feature for?
22:27 <+JollyRgrs> weechat and irssi are very similar in terms of what features you can eventually get to. weechat is said to be more "like what [I] wanted"  out of the box
22:27 <+JollyRgrs> shanth: i use it for the android client
22:27 < AnimalFarmPig> also, the client - server system that quassel uses is nice
22:27 < desgen> 2018-07-06 20:26:42 [WARN] The lounge CLI is deprecated and will be removed in v3.
22:27 < desgen> lol
22:27 < desgen> there docs are outdated
22:27 < desgen> quality work
22:27 < adamb> having sasl support is nice too because you never end up typing MSG NICKSERV IDENTIFY HUNTER2 into a channel
22:27 <+DrGibby|> tbh, the only limitation I run into with irssi is the amount of channels I want to join
22:27 < catbeard> adamb: it also supports CERTFP
22:27 < shanth> desgen - still seems to run just some of the cli options are going to change, lol
22:27 <+JollyRgrs> DrGibby|: what's the limit with irssi?
22:28 <+JollyRgrs> i didn't know there was any limit
22:28 <+DrGibby|> well, technically there isn't
22:28 < AnimalFarmPig> shanth: I run the quassel server on a VM, then I point my quassel client at it from my home desktop, laptop, work machine, etc. and have access to the same irc session from anywhere
22:28 <+DrGibby|> but you have to start killing off keyboard shortcuts when you get into alt+t(I think) after after
22:28 < AnimalFarmPig> that's the benefit of a relay
22:28 < catbeard> poor man's znc
22:28 < AnimalFarmPig> ehh... better history support than znc, from what I understand
22:28 <+DrGibby|> s/after after/and after
22:28 <+layer-eight> [SED DrGibby|] but you have to start killing off keyboard shortcuts when you get into alt+t(I think) and after
22:28 < shanth> i'll check it out for sure AnimalFarmPig thanks
22:28 < desgen>  desgen@desarch  ~  thelounge config
22:28 < desgen> 2018-07-06 20:27:36 [ERROR] /etc/thelounge/config.js does not exist.
22:29 <+JollyRgrs> DrGibby|: weechat has "alt+j##"
22:29 < desgen> goddammit
22:29 <+JollyRgrs> i dunno about triple digit, but it can handle 2 just fine
22:29 < desgen> this shit is intense
22:29 < AnimalFarmPig> all history for an account is stored in a relational database, and is accessible from whichever client you use
22:29 < shanth> got it up and running on the first try desgen
22:29 < shanth> pretty good AnimalFarmPig
22:29 < desgen> you probably got it in time shanth
22:29 <+JollyRgrs> oh weechat also makes it easy to filter join/part msgs for non-active users
22:29 < shanth> are they all like that quassel/irssi/weechat AnimalFarmPig?
22:29 < shanth> or just quassel?
22:29 < desgen> maybe it's timed to work
22:29 < desgen> so if I keep trying, it'll just work
22:29 < genr8_> SASL Support is mandatory if you don't want your actual IP leaking as soon as you start connecting to random channels but before you auth, THEN you cloak. that doesnt help anything
22:30 < genr8_> if that made sense
22:30 <+JollyRgrs> shanth: weechat is like that with the relay as well
22:30 < AnimalFarmPig> shanth: quassel does the cool stuff with history. Any bouncer/relay lets you access a single session from multiple clients.
22:30 <+JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: what does quassel do so special vs weechat?
22:30 <+JollyRgrs> i get full buffer, etc in weechat
22:31 < adamb> genr8_: But if I cloak how would everyone know how cool I am with my IPv6?
22:31 <+JollyRgrs> well, i define the buffer that is there, but still
22:31 < AnimalFarmPig> JollyRgrs: how does weechat handle history from multiple clients?
22:31 <+JollyRgrs> it's one in the same?
22:31 < AnimalFarmPig> cool
22:31 < AnimalFarmPig> then probably not much different
22:31 <+JollyRgrs> weechat runs on my server... a relay is just piggybacking, all buffers,chans,pms are the same
22:31 <+DrGibby|> multiple clients? Shouldn't it just be multiple connections to a single client?
22:31 <+JollyRgrs> and all logs into the same log file
22:31 <+JollyRgrs> DrGibby|: single "server"
22:31 <+JollyRgrs> multiple clients
22:31 <+DrGibby|> ah
22:31 <+DrGibby|> gotcha
22:32 <+JollyRgrs> relay clients
22:32 <+JollyRgrs> or local client on the "Server"
22:32 < AnimalFarmPig> stores history in flat files?
22:32 <+JollyRgrs> yup
22:32 <+JollyRgrs> i grep mine all the time
22:32 < AnimalFarmPig> nice, so you can grep
22:32 < alazare619> desgen: why are you trying to use thelounge
22:32 < onenerdyguy> who wants to store history
22:32 < alazare619> that project is deprecated and no longer updated
22:32 < onenerdyguy> who watns history
22:32 < AnimalFarmPig> quassel uses either sqlite or postgres
22:32 <+JollyRgrs> onenerdyguy: me
22:32 <+DrGibby|> I always liked the screen/irssi combo because it was easy to travel with
22:32 < onenerdyguy> ha you're no fun
22:32 <+JollyRgrs> same cept screen/tmux with weechat
22:33 <+JollyRgrs> onenerdyguy: wehn a joker like you complains of someone misbehaving in teh channel
22:33 < alazare619> also desgen  https://hub.docker.com/r/linuxserver/thelounge/
22:33 <+JollyRgrs> or when DrGibby| goes "why am i banted?"
22:33 < onenerdyguy> JollyRgrs, pfft, my word is gospel
22:33 < alazare619> if you really wana use thelounge just use the docker
22:33 <+JollyRgrs> i can look back and see why
22:33 < onenerdyguy> JollyRgrs, alazare619 really did touch me there even though I said no.
22:33 <+DrGibby|> I don't do that anymore tho
22:33 < desgen> alazare619, I really like it so far
22:33 < AnimalFarmPig> I think the other thing that quassel does differently from weechat is "have a GUI." Qt vs text.
22:33 < desgen> based off the webpage about it
22:33 <+JollyRgrs> onenerdyguy: well looks like desgen liked alazare619's touch
22:33 < onenerdyguy> JollyRgrs, just because he got aroused din't mean he liked it!
22:34 <+JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: haha, well, you can conenct to the relay if you want a GUI
22:34 < onenerdyguy> JollyRgrs, you saying I was asking for it?!
22:34 < alazare619> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xat1GVnl8-k - Bad Touch
22:34 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  YouTube → Bloodhound Gang - The Bad Touch → ⚘ 249,046,175 ↑ 973,021 ↓ 58,795 ✍ 77,767
22:34 < aName> "Which PC is this user at?" "The one next to otherUser in the back row"
22:34  * aName sighs
22:34 <+JollyRgrs> https://github.com/weechat/qweechat something like this?
22:34 < desgen> all it took was alazare619 not liking it
22:34 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  GitHub → weechat → qweechat → Qt remote GUI for WeeChat. → @ ~ 6 months ago → Python → ✡ 39 → Forks: 10 → ☹ 7
22:34 < desgen> for me to like it
22:35 < alazare619> when did JollyRgrs get de-opped
22:35 < desgen> because he's a homo
22:35 < AnimalFarmPig> JollyRgrs: and it's able to keep track of what's in the backlog of different clients connecting to the relay?
22:35 < aName> I don't know why they expect me to know every single employee and what desk they sit at.
22:35 < alazare619> did you beat killdash9  in rocket league?
22:35 < Jagster`> speaking of which
22:35 <+JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: yeah, connecting via relay, it is no diff than if i ssh'ed into my tmux session
22:35 < Jagster`> @killdash9,  wya
22:35 <+JollyRgrs> and i can use both at the same time
22:36 < aName> For more than a year now, I've silently refused to work your ticket without a service tag or desk number
22:36 < alazare619> Jagster`:  an opposing game company thats where he is at
22:36 < aName> And yet, I STILL have to pry this information out of the users
22:36 < alazare619> Jagster`: who insists on using their own game update mechanism instead of steam which has clearly won...
22:36 < alazare619> same for A-KO  ...
22:36 < desgen> I still don't know how to run it
22:37 < alazare619> desgen: do you not know how to docker?
22:37 < desgen> fuck docker
22:37 < desgen> I just want to run the damn thing
22:37 < alazare619> with docker it will run in 1 command
22:37 < alazare619> so fuck you :)
22:37 < alazare619> Kthnxbye
22:38 < AnimalFarmPig> JollyRgrs: interesting. What about new clients connecting? I've got a few years worth of history on my quassel server. I can install a client on a new box, connect to my server, and access all of it. I don't see how that would be possible practical on a generic irc client connecting to a weechat relay
22:38 < desgen> fite me
22:38 < alazare619> blow me
22:38 < desgen> ok
22:38  * alazare619 likes where this is going
22:38 < xamithan> You spelled fight wrong.
22:38 < desgen> fite me is a common joke when saying fight me
22:38 < desgen> autism is also a common joke
22:39 < xamithan> Spelling words wrong is only a joke to teens.
22:39 < adamb> I'm not really sure what use case has a requirement of "5 years of redditors shitposting"
22:39 < alazare619> desgen: why are you against using docker?
22:39 <+JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: what do you mean?
22:39 < desgen> I'm not
22:39 < adamb> searchable in an instant
22:39 < desgen> I just said fuck docker
22:39 < alazare619> if you wana run it in docker just do the below
22:39 <+JollyRgrs> i can't access years of history in the client, no... that's what grep is for
22:40 <+JollyRgrs> i guess maybe i could if i allowed the buffer to be that big
22:40 <+JollyRgrs> that'd be kinda crazy though
22:40 < adamb> By grep you mean elasticsearch of course
22:40 < alazare619> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/3jAUC59l/
22:40 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  Snippet | IRCCloud
22:40 < desgen> alazare619, I had issues
22:40 < desgen> issues that were me
22:40 < AnimalFarmPig> JollyRgrs: yeah, quassel allows that. I can just keep scrolling back and back and back, etc.
22:40 < desgen> but they were issues
22:40 <+JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: my "max_buffeR_lines_number is set to 4096
22:41 < alazare619> theres a few variables but that command runs it i have an instance up and going right now
22:41 <+JollyRgrs> or i can set it by minutes instead of lines (or set by both)
22:41 <+JollyRgrs> but no, i can't everscroll... that'd be awful
22:41 < aName> What's worse is that we're moving to a new helpdesk system with NO mandatory fields.
22:41 <+JollyRgrs> tbh
22:41 < AnimalFarmPig> why awful?
22:42 <+TuxedoJack> Because you can't see where the fucking tier 1s and tier 2s are fucking up easily and develop processes based on that
22:42 < aName> ... and now I'm finding out they gave me the tag for the desk they moved the agent to, not of the broken PC
22:42 < aName> FML
22:42 <+JollyRgrs> aName: ticket from "$null" subject "my computer won't turn on please fix it now as i am in an emergency situation" body: $null
22:42 < AnimalFarmPig> upon connecting to the server, quassel gets some block of backlog. If you try to go back further, it fetches whichever messages came before that from the server.
22:42 < aName> JollyRgrs: I wish.
22:42 < AnimalFarmPig> you can keep doing that as long as you want
22:42 < xamithan> Just close it out saying wrong information.  Please review and resubmit
22:43 <+JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: you wanna just scroll through years of this channel?
22:43 <+JollyRgrs> that'll take you a while
22:43 < aName> JollyRgrs: I'm getting "broken" and nothing else half the time.
22:43 < AnimalFarmPig> ehhh... could if I want to. At that point, I would just query the database
22:43 < desgen> alazare619, wouldn't I need to install thelounge container?
22:43 <+JollyRgrs> aName: we'd get that from our helpdesk... WHO FIELDED A CALL and put in the ticket
22:43 < desgen> or does this do it
22:43 <+JollyRgrs> that was so bad
22:43 < alazare619> desgen: that does everything
22:43 <+JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: right... so what's the point in having history that long?
22:43 <+JollyRgrs> also... a db?
22:43 <+JollyRgrs> you can't just grep the log?
22:43 < alazare619> just set pid gid timezone and the mount path
22:44 < adamb> Confession time: I sometimes impersonate the bot account on the ticketing system and send out "Automated Replies"
22:44 < AnimalFarmPig> JollyRgrs: yeah, whole history is in postgres, so I can query with with SQL, do aggregates, etc.
22:44 < alazare619> you could modify if you wanted to do --restart always too
22:44 <+JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: at times i could see that being a cool feature
22:44 <+JollyRgrs> at other times, that'd annoy the crap outta me
22:44 < AnimalFarmPig> JollyRgrs: point is that you never lose history. Even if you haven't connected for a long time and are beyond the max size of your backlog buffer
22:44 < xamithan> I sometimes impersonate an automated system when calls come in saying we have an outage
22:44 < adamb> "You need to include $field" before one of the team will be notified this ticket exists"
22:45 <+JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: i don't lose history
22:45 <+JollyRgrs> 4096 is more than enough lines for backbuffer so i know WTF is being talked about
22:45 < AnimalFarmPig> JollyRgrs: if there were more than 4096 lines though?
22:45 <+JollyRgrs> my highlights buffer is fine for letting me know when someone mentioned me
22:45 < desgen> docker run \
22:45 < desgen>   --name=thelounge \
22:45 < desgen>   -v /host/mounted/config/store:/config \
22:45 < desgen>   -e PGID=<gid> -e PUID=<uid>  \
22:45 < desgen>   -e TZ=<timezone> \
22:45 < desgen>   -p 9000:9000 \
22:45 < desgen>   linuxserver/thelounge
22:45 < desgen> oops
22:45 <+JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: then i just Ctrl+A,D out of there and grep the log real quick
22:45 < desgen> ./script.sh: line 1: gid: No such file or directory
22:46 < alazare619> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/0IDMBDZW/
22:46 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  Snippet | IRCCloud
22:46 < desgen> oh right
22:46 < alazare619> desgen: thats mine
22:46 < desgen> I call it anything
22:46 <+JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: but whatever, we can both agree that irccloud is stupid, amirite?
22:46 < AnimalFarmPig> JollyRgrs: yes
22:46 < shanth> lol desgen
22:46 < AnimalFarmPig> what is irccloud? Is that the one that runs in a browser?
22:47 < desgen> shutup
22:47 < servchan> eat a
22:47 < adamb> yes, it's a web based cloud based bouncer
22:47 < desgen> ./script.sh: line 1: docker: command not found
22:47 < desgen> lol
22:47 <+JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: yeah, you gotta pay for it, iirc
22:47 < adamb> tries to turn irc into slack
22:47 < desgen> woops
22:47 <+JollyRgrs> you could ask alazare619
22:48 < Jagster`> alazare619,  what do u do anyway
22:48 < alazare619> yea i use irccloud AnimalFarmPig
22:48 < adamb> as if the world having slack wasn't already bad enough
22:48 < alazare619> Jagster`: die every day i'm here at the office (healthcare IT)
22:48 < AnimalFarmPig> oh, lol, paid service
22:48 < Jagster`> ugh
22:48 < Jagster`> get out
22:48 < desgen> alazare619, this is what happens when you spoon feed
22:48 <+JollyRgrs> Jagster`: he updates allscripts
22:48 < desgen> haven't you learned by now?
22:48 <+JollyRgrs> that is HIS ONLY JOB
22:48 < Jagster`> sick
22:49 < AnimalFarmPig> I guess it works if non-http traffic is blocked on your network
22:49 < alazare619> JollyRgrs: guess what i'm doing this weekend?!
22:49 < alazare619> 17.1 CU6...
22:49 <+JollyRgrs> Jagster`: honestly, my last job in healthcare wasn't bad if it weren't for the very low pay
22:49 <+JollyRgrs> alazare619: haha... see? it never fails... you are either deploying an update... or preparing for one... or fixing an issue because of one
22:49 < alazare619> i wish i could use my skills in docker and linux and other things
22:49 < alazare619> but unfortunately i'm stuck on fucking windows servers
22:49 < alazare619> and vmware esxi...
22:49 < Jagster`> we have windows servers
22:50 < adamb> install the ubuntu runtime, linux everything by stealth
22:50 < Jagster`> infosec hit me up this morning about some nodes running windows 7
22:50 < Jagster`> i was like fuuu
22:50 <+JollyRgrs> wand0w$ $erver$
22:50 < alazare619> wondered as much given that it was built on adobe air
22:50 < Jagster`> then ir ealized it was my testing desktops
22:50 <+JollyRgrs> haha
22:50 < alazare619> Jagster`: you played with spookycopter lately?
22:50 <+JollyRgrs> my test desktops are always hitting some kind of compliance report
22:51 < onenerdyguy> oh ffs. Random latency on the network. nice.
22:51 < desgen> alazare619, before I continue, run as root?
22:51 < alazare619> doesnt really matter
22:51 <+JollyRgrs> onenerdyguy: just in time for you to not be gone home already :P
22:51 < alazare619> it will run as whatever pid gid you set in the command
22:51 < desgen> cool
22:51 < onenerdyguy> JollyRgrs, you kow it
22:51 < adamb> Mother Russia encourages you to run all things as root
22:51 < alazare619> i gnerally run docker as 1 user unless i need segregation
22:51 < servchan> suck a
22:51 < desgen> docker: Got permission denied while trying to connect to the Docker daemon socket at unix:///var/run/docker.sock:
22:52 <+JollyRgrs> welp, on that note... i think i'm gonna split before traffic gets bad and before any issues come in
22:52 < shanth> godspeed JollyRgrs
22:52 < alazare619> id love ot move to like a dev-ops style role
22:52 < adamb> desgen: us your docket actually running?
22:52 < desgen> probably going to need to run as root
22:52 < adamb> (is
22:52 < desgen> oh
22:52 < adamb> *docker
22:52 < desgen> it is now!
22:53 < adamb> also you might need to add your own user to a group
22:53 < alazare619> #fuckdocker
22:53 < alazare619> ;)
22:53 < adamb> dunno which group, I run docker on a mac so it Just Works (R)
22:53 < alazare619> oh desgen if your user you are on shell as (whoami) isnt in the docker group then yea you would have to run the command as root
22:53 < desgen> added to docker group, enabled systemd service, started, same error
22:54 < alazare619> hmm interesting i dont have that issue
22:54 < adamb> make sure to restart your shell session after changing your groups
22:54 < alazare619> the pid gid will de-elevate the container once its running anyways so probably moot
22:54 < alazare619> and the --restart=always will mean it will presist across reboots
22:54 < desgen> ok, actually, apparently I should remember to log out when adding my user to a group
22:54 < alazare619> 99% of my homelab stuff is on docker
22:55 < desgen> it's running now
22:55 < adamb> docker is 'mazin for stuff you don't care about
22:55 < alazare619> adamb: even stuff you care about
22:55 < alazare619> thats what mount points are for
22:55 < adamb> kubernetes for the stuff you do care about :)
22:55 < alazare619> all my stuff i care about has its configs put on a nas thats backed up to the cloud
22:56 < alazare619> so re-deploying is as simple as refiring the shell script and they are all on another node
22:56 < desgen> http://104.225.223.186:9000/
22:56 <+layer-eight> * desgen →  The Lounge
22:57 < alazare619> gj :)
22:57 < grumplestiltzkin> alazare619: so would you say you are a pro at docking?
22:58 < adamb> desgen: prooobably shouldn't have it open to the world, unless you want to play a game of "how quickly can freenode K-LINE me"
22:58 < alazare619> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/0UGLZ6qT/
22:58 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  Snippet | IRCCloud
22:58 < alazare619> theres all my docker stuff atm
22:58 < alazare619> grumplestiltzkin: and dicking ;)
22:59 < desgen> adamb, I have no clue what im doing clearly
22:59 < alazare619> we all start somewhere
23:00 < adamb> just firewall it off, or authenticate it somehow
23:00 < alazare619> theres a letsencrypt reverse proxy with a landing page gui with authentication out there
23:00 < desgen> I'm not sure why 9000 was allowed to connect considering csf was unconfigured
23:01 < alazare619> https://hub.docker.com/_/traefik/
23:01 < desgen> that's annoying me
23:01 < desgen> i'm actually kind of butthurt
23:02 < desgen> restarting firewall did it
23:02 < desgen> but why, why did I have to
23:03 < desgen> why the hell
23:03 < adamb> if it were easy and obvious, The Man wouldn't pay us to do it
23:04 < alazare619> did you just install docker desgen
23:04 < alazare619> if so theres services it sets up that iptables and the such dont know about
23:05 < alazare619> its recommended after installing docker doing a restart
23:06 < desgen> it's fine after I restarted it, but it's just annoying I even had to
23:14 < corn266> wow
23:14 < corn266> i got a segmentation fault in python
23:14 < desgen> segment it better
23:15 < corn266> it's you're segmentation fault
23:15 < adamb> if you're up to date it's worth reporting
23:16 < adamb> segfaults are always caused by broken code or broken hardware
23:16 < corn266> it might have had to do with never releasing the gpu, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
23:16 < desgen> I bet i'm having a 5k's worth this very minute
23:16 < desgen> bleeding edge is living on the edge
23:16 < adamb> like i said, broken code :)
23:17 < admiralspark> I hear the cool thing to do is burn it all down and rewrite it in Haskell
23:17 < corn266> neh it's still a work in progress, I'm having to translate tensorflow to pytorch and I don't know either of the languages
23:17 < onenerdyguy> boom. latency fixed
23:17 < admiralspark> corn266: can I ask what you're doing with tensorflow?
23:17 < vinrock> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
23:17 < admiralspark> it's a lib I'd like to learn
23:18 < adamb> alright serious question, has anyone ever figured out how nagios knows the exact moment you're just getting comfy for the evening
23:19 < vinrock> gotta make sure you notice it's doing something
23:19 < admiralspark> corn266: https://github.com/Microsoft/MMdnn
23:19 <+layer-eight> * admiralspark →  GitHub → Microsoft → MMdnn → MMdnn is a set of tools to help users inter-operate among different deep learning frameworks. E.g. model conversion and visualization. Convert models between Caffe, Keras, MXNet, Tensorflow, CNTK, PyTorch Onnx and CoreML. → @ ~ 11 hours ago → Python → ✡ 1,864 → Forks: 365 → ☹ 29
23:20 < adamb> fucking greenbone
23:20 < corn266> admiralspark, we're data munching at the moment, but we're still generating pictures of rocks
23:21 < admiralspark> adamb: I used to fuck with one of the on-call guys. Wrote a timed script to kick off at 6:30pm on Friday every other week to add an ACL blocking the nagios server for 5 minutes then removing the ACL, because I knew it'd take them 5 minutes to check it out/log on vpon/etc
23:21 < adamb> need to get the ssh brute force module disabled, the only thing it tests in our environment is how much disk space the ldap server has for logs
23:21 < admiralspark> he couldn't figure it out for the life of him, let it go on for 3 rounds (6 weeks)
23:21 < vinrock> just disable the slerts for it
23:21 < admiralspark> adamb: or just don't alert on it
23:21 < admiralspark> yeah
23:21 < vinrock> stop stealing my thunder bro
23:22 < vinrock> bro bro
23:22 < admiralspark> corn266: oh, cool. I don't get why but cool
23:22 < admiralspark> I'm wanting to learn how and why's of that tech
23:22 < corn266> I can't say more than that without breaking NDA
23:23 < adamb> yeah, i will do, the vulnerability scanners are quite new
23:24 < adamb> problem is in operation they look like all the evil stuff we want to catch
23:24 < admiralspark> corn266: that's cool. There's this sort of hump between "basic how ML works" and "actually using it on a project" that I can't get past
23:24 < admiralspark> I'
23:24 < admiralspark> I want to see it in use, check the code out, etc
23:25 < onenerdyguy> oh for fucks sake. does anyone still use Roaming Profiles here
23:25 < admiralspark> lol
23:26 < admiralspark> onenerdyguy: I try not to. You mean actual roaming profiles or the new ms replacement?
23:26 < onenerdyguy> admiralspark, actual. Cuz the new MS replacement, UEV, requires enterprise
23:26 < admiralspark> oh, we have ent :P
23:26 < onenerdyguy> that'd be nice
23:26 < admiralspark> onenerdyguy: 100% if you can't use UEV, don't use roaming profiles, do folder redirection instead
23:26 < admiralspark> and also, don't do *offline* files either
23:27 < onenerdyguy> admiralspark, i've been pushing for that, but the problem is they want *tons* of crap redirected
23:27 < admiralspark> documents, desktop, what else?
23:27 < onenerdyguy> appdata
23:27 < admiralspark> that's all there is. Photos and videos don
23:27 < admiralspark> no
23:27 < onenerdyguy> which to me is a big ass "NO DONT"
23:27 < admiralspark> appdata is the whole reason it breaks roaming profiles in the first place
23:27 < onenerdyguy> admiralspark, i agree..i really do
23:27 < admiralspark> hmmmm
23:28 < onenerdyguy> admiralspark, this is for a 911 facility, with multiple consoles, they want the users to be able to hotdesk to any console and have all the files/settings/etc
23:28 < admiralspark> I don't have a good solution for you man, because the only implementation that I've heard of fixing the corrupted appdata stuff is UEV like you said
23:28 < admiralspark> hmmm
23:28 < admiralspark> so
23:28 < admiralspark> this is not a good idea, but I'm going to mention it anyway
23:28 < enix> idk iirc we had everyones 'my documents' etc. hosted on the nas and symlinked on every desktop
23:29 < enix> idk if it helps
23:29  * enix has paid his 2 cents and will now return to regular sysadminning
23:29 < admiralspark> This is CJIS approved as long as you make sure to say "we have a business need for it". onenerdyguy: single account logon
23:29  * enix starting with the ceos mailbox
23:29 < onenerdyguy> admiralspark, I've debated it.
23:29 < onenerdyguy> admiralspark, and it's the answer keeping in by back pocket
23:30 < admiralspark> onenerdyguy: the other thing is I've noticed roaming profiles are slowwwwwww
23:30 < onenerdyguy> admiralspark, 5+ minut elogins
23:31 < admiralspark> yep
23:31 < onenerdyguy> yep, known issue, and I'm telling em, redirect and it's fixed
23:31 < onenerdyguy> but you know how people get
23:31 < admiralspark> so basically you tell em "either you get the fuck over it and use redirected folders, or you wait forever and we rebuild your profile weekly" nicely
23:31 < admiralspark> so
23:31 < admiralspark> the E911 I used to work with
23:31 < admiralspark> they decided it wasn't worth hotdesking
23:32 < admiralspark> they were a high-call-volume facility sometimes, they just made sure to have coverage
23:32 < onenerdyguy> so what they do, the single sign on?
23:32 < corn266> Sorry admiralspark my coworker came to bother me about software stuff. Yea it's really neat to use for projects, but if you're going to get into deep learning I'd suggest pytorch over tensorflow
23:33 < admiralspark> onenerdyguy: nope, individual user accounts and they were assigned workstations :P Ther is always the alternative of using terminal services or VDI
23:33 < corn266> Coding in tensorflow is like writing an entire program without testing a single thing, and then seeing how much shit you can break at once
23:33 < onenerdyguy> admiralspark, VDI or TS we're looking at, but these damn things are 6 monitors
23:33 < admiralspark> corn266: npnp, I'll make sure to look into it.
23:34 < admiralspark> onenerdyguy: yep, had the same issue, 8 monitors and 5 workstations per pod.
23:34 < onenerdyguy> yep
23:34 < onenerdyguy> it's a mess
23:34 < admiralspark> yeeeeeep
23:34 < admiralspark> wait
23:34 < admiralspark> hmm
23:34 < admiralspark> you're not in Alaska right
23:34 < onenerdyguy> nope
23:34 < onenerdyguy> ND
23:34 < admiralspark> okay good good
23:34 < admiralspark> yknow what I'd do?
23:34 < onenerdyguy> hmm
23:35 < admiralspark> Get ahold of a local muni's IT, preferably someone bigger/more involved with E911 than your guys, and ask what they do. IF you're the biggest, check wiht the next 3 largest. Then come back and say "this is what the industry does, here's the contact for their dispatch"
23:35 < onenerdyguy> admiralspark, thats a good idea. I like that. I'll do it.
23:36 < onenerdyguy> thanks all, y ou have a good weekend
23:36 < admiralspark> make sure to give them options so it feels like they're making a decision but steer them to the correct solution :)
23:36 < enix> wow asks question and quits
23:36 < enix> didn't even get a 'fuck their dads' joke in
23:37 < admiralspark> corn266: I think my other issue is I don't have a good problem to solve that thousands of people havent already tried (like stock markets, that's super popular)
23:37 < admiralspark> but the code itself and the tech behind it is cool, and I can't stay in cybersec forever
23:37 < admiralspark> my project is to apply ML to malware analysis, but even that has huge companies with more resources than I behind it rn
23:40 < genr8_> i was just reading about that
23:41 < genr8_> that and HoneyD
23:42 < genr8_> AI helps blue team more
23:42 < corn266> Or you could red team and use AI for mutating malware
23:43 < admiralspark> I'm a blueteamer
23:43 <@cryptic1> evening
23:44 < admiralspark> but a lot of the ML or "ai" stuff in the industry either requires huge proprietary datasets whcih I have no access to, or they're unsupervised learning which means I'd have to build a malware lab and dedicate a ton of time mapping it
23:44 < admiralspark> which I'm not paid to do :P
23:44 < admiralspark> sup cryptic1
23:44 < grumplestiltzkin> wait.   cryptic1.  you're from Canada right?
23:44 <@cryptic1> yes
23:45 <@cryptic1> hey admiralspark :)
23:45 < grumplestiltzkin> so, being Canadian, what pronoun should we use for you?
23:45 < genr8_> nonsense
23:46 <@cryptic1> cryptic1
23:47 < StrongBad> syr
23:50 < desgen> alazare619 even though it's unlikely someone did anything when it was open, is there any reason to believe I need to reinstall the container?
23:51 <+TuxedoJack> Eh.
23:52 < desgen> Eh is good enough
23:52 < admiralspark> desgen: if it's a container, it should be easy because you automated deployment right? ;)
23:52 < desgen> yep
23:52 < desgen> It's just I had to type things
23:53 < StrongBad> mr pronouns are eh, syr and sorry
23:53 < admiralspark> desgen: as someone who warriors behind a keyboard, I recognize that typing is hard
23:56 < desgen> if it's not online it's in a prison
23:56 < desgen> that's how I see it
23:57 < desgen> or both
23:57 < desgen> speaking of....
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