--- Log opened Wed Apr 04 00:00:12 2018
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00:00 < sepeck> definitly not somethign I remembered though
00:00 < jcotton> truexfan81: haha
00:00 < jcotton> truexfan81: sounds like you should wait
00:00 < jcotton> speaking of which
00:00  * jcotton drops out of targeted SAC
00:00 < truexfan81> Stryyker: i already have the latest driver for that wifi adapter
00:01 < jcotton> truexfan81: is this a desktop?
00:01 < truexfan81> jcotton: yeah, i'll wait till it ships out on the 10th, jcotton yes, my new ryzen build
00:01 < jcotton> wire it!
00:01 < Stryyker> truexfan81: did you try removing the device and removing it from the driverstore? Also I asked about different drivers, sometimes latest introduce new issues
00:01 < truexfan81> jcotton: nope, router is in mom's office, and i'm not drilling holes in mom's house
00:01 < Stryyker> might be worth giving some feedback - others may be in the same situation
00:02 < jcotton> truexfan81: rip
00:02 < jcotton> non-wired desktops make me cry
00:02 < truexfan81> Stryyker: nope, didn't try cause didn't want to wait for it to redownload, also didn't want to hog all the bandwidth to redownload it
00:04 < truexfan81> Stryyker: when the official 1803 iso ships out, i'll have my vps use wget to download it from MS, and then i'll use winscp to download it to my pc, cause with winscp i can set a speed limit, and if my net drops out, it will auto reconnect, resume when connection is restored
00:04 < jcotton> truexfan81: you can limit WU bandwidth
00:04 < jcotton> that was added in 1709
00:04 < jcotton> also https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/89dbpz/retail_redstone_4_1803_builds_are_ready_to_be/
00:04 < truexfan81> eh? i'll take a look, see if i can find it
00:05 < jcotton> truexfan81: WU settings > Advanced > Delivery optimization > Advanced
00:05 < truexfan81> jcotton: i need help with the math lol
00:05 < truexfan81> its a % which i'm assuming would be a % of the  total wifi speed
00:05 < truexfan81> which is much more than our net speed
00:06 < truexfan81> i'll do a speed test real quick, and then i want to set it to not use more than half of it
00:06 < sepeck> truexfan81: you should totally drill holes in your moms house.  Where else will you get to practice patching sheetrock for little cost?
00:07 < jcotton> not sure if that counts as throwing shade or not
00:07 < truexfan81> ok so i want to set windows update to not use more than 2megabits/s
00:07 < truexfan81> so how would i set that?
00:07 < jcotton> well, what's your internet speed?
00:08 < truexfan81> http://www.speedtest.net/result/7196784694
00:08 < jcotton> rip
00:08 < jcotton> that's basically 50% then
00:08 < jcotton> also, ISPs rig the hell out of that BTW
00:08 < truexfan81> is it 50% of the net connection or 50% of my 802.11n ?
00:09 < jcotton> idk
00:09 < jcotton> try it and see
00:09 < truexfan81> nah, pass
00:09 < truexfan81> they were complaining about the net being slow yesterday, i don't want to slow it down again today
00:10 < truexfan81> also it was already set to 45%
00:10 < S_SubZero> jcotton: My work PC (this PC) survived the 1803 update ^^
00:10 < jcotton> I have finals at the end of this month
00:10 < jcotton> i'm going to wait
00:10 < jcotton> probably will wait until 1st or 2nd round of post-release patches
00:11 < sepeck> truexfan81: are you just slow on wifi?
00:11 < truexfan81> sepeck: nope, wifi is tons faster than our net
00:11 < sepeck> ah
00:12 < sepeck> maybe get off that 10mb router :)
00:12 < jcotton> it's Comcast
00:12 < jcotton> i am unsurprised
00:12 < sepeck> so, same thing?
00:12  * sepeck hugs his fiber connection
00:12 < truexfan81> also lol @ this link from jcotton, assuming i forgot to run disk cleanup on my insider vm, i may be able to use this to get an iso from that
00:12 < jcotton> 10mb routers don't necessarily consume your soul
00:12 < jcotton> Comcast on the other hand...
00:12 < jcotton> sepeck: how fast?
00:13 < truexfan81> i think i did run disk cleanup on the vm tho
00:13 < truexfan81> but i will check
00:13  * jcotton has been enjoying gigabit in the dorms
00:13 < jcotton> well
00:14 < jcotton> half-gig
00:14 < jcotton> at most
00:14 < Aelius> fast.com is good speedtest if you don't need upload
00:14 < jcotton> ^^
00:15  * Aelius gets 240Mbps at the office
00:15 < truexfan81> yep sadly i ran disk cleanup on the vm
00:16 < truexfan81> so i'll just have to make my vps download the esd for me i guess
00:16 < jcotton> just wait until it hits MCT
00:16 < jcotton> should be next week
00:17 < truexfan81> http://fg.ds.b1.download.windowsupdate.com/c/Upgr/2018/03/17133.1.180323-1312.rs4_release_clientconsumer_ret_x64fre_en-us_8483d330ba2e42d8e0a2bdd377074358afb0c864.esd   lulz
00:17 < jcotton> rumors are it will roll out Apr 10
00:17 < S_SubZero> i'm 97% sure that posting the ESDs in here.. isn't recommended.
00:17 < sepeck> jcotton: err... 35M iirc
00:17 < truexfan81> jcotton: my vps will have that esd downloaded in about 3 minutes lol
00:17 < jcotton> S_SubZero: it's still MS
00:17 < jcotton> at least
00:17 < sepeck> jcotton: that's the minimum.  It's usually twice as fast
00:18 < jcotton> sepeck: not bad
00:18 < sepeck> jcotton: for 4 people it's very acceptable
00:18 < jcotton> 160 per fast.com in the library on wifi
00:18 < sepeck> jcotton: well, I also let the two old folks living next door use my wifi
00:18 < jcotton> on ethernet in the dorm it gets up to 400-500
00:19 < Maarten> april 10th is what I read on 1803.
00:19 < sepeck> I suppose I need to add a 5g wifi option this year
00:19 < jcotton> sepeck: it won't help if your issue is range
00:20 < Maarten> I get 400-500ish on wifi at home if I am close to the AP, 200-300ish is quite normal, and even out in the yard or on the street out front I get 100+ Mbps.... and that's perfectly fine for wifi.
00:20 < Maarten> range can be solved with.... more AP's. :)
00:20 < sepeck> jcotton: eh?  No, it's that the existing wifi is 'good enough' and I didn't have any 5g devices until this last year
00:20 < jcotton> ah
00:20 < truexfan81> so whats the preferred way to convert an esd to wim?
00:20 < sepeck> my AP has more then sufficient coverage
00:21 < jcotton> truexfan81: esd2iso is a thing
00:21 < jcotton> i don't have the link anymore tho
00:21 < truexfan81> i can google it, thank you
00:24 < johnJones32q> Hi everybody I used windows 10 latest version. I was having reboots automatically everyday. Yesterday i updated the BIOS successfully but the computer turned the screen to sleep no longer turned on. And the computer was stuck in a loop of making this crackling noise. I don't know what it was doing so i pushed the powerbutton, then it got stuck in a loop of power on and power off. i thought
00:24 < johnJones32q> it was dead. But i powered it off. Then now i've been turning it on and for the past 4 times, it turns fine windows 10 comes up. my files are all there and there's no more automatic reboots. But i wonder if my computer is fine or not. It seems to be working.
00:29 < Maarten> johnJones32q, if this happened after the bios update, I would run Windows Update to be sure you have all the latest updates.... I do believe that the BIOS updates that are intended to fix the CPU microcode bugs, need the correct OS patches as well.
00:30 < johnJones32q> Oh i see
00:31 < truexfan81> jcotton: i have the tool, and the esd is now downloading to my pc via winscp
00:31 < Maarten> If you have ran updates in the last 2 months you should have them already. If January was your last update, you probably will need to patch up.
00:32 < johnJones32q> ok thanks
00:32 < johnJones32q> will try
00:37 < johnJones32q> maarten it says there's an update 2018-03 cumulative update. and then it says status: Installing :)
00:39 < PussyLuvr> Not sure but do installing iTunes for windows need internet? Just install?
00:39 < jcotton> nope
00:40 < PussyLuvr> Nope?
00:40 < jcotton> you don't need internete
00:41 < jcotton> the installer has everything (i.e. it's not a stub)
00:42 < PussyLuvr> No I mean to put itunes on computer
00:42 < PussyLuvr> Not on stub
00:43 < jcotton> I mean the installer you download from Apple isn't a stub that downloads the actual installer (chrome and firefox do that for example)
00:43 < PussyLuvr> Yes u not deny me now
00:43 < jcotton> oh
00:43 < jcotton> sepeck: it's HoloIrc again
00:43 < jcotton> holoirc@139.99.96.18
00:44 < PussyLuvr> No just on Windows to install
00:44 < jcotton> PussyLuvr: find something better to do with your time
00:44 < jcotton> like knitting
00:44 < PussyLuvr> jcotton how bout ur Pussy
00:44 < PussyLuvr> I hear it loose
00:44 < PussyLuvr> So much dock
00:44 < PussyLuvr> U fuk all time
00:47 < truexfan81> thank you Stryyker
00:49 < iluminator105> disc image file is too large will not fit the recordable disc
00:50 < truexfan81> what image file?
00:50 < iluminator105> truexfan81, iso
00:50 < truexfan81> more specific?
00:51 < iluminator105> its a linux distro iso
00:52 < S_SubZero> ok, well, uh.. welcome to ##windows.
00:52 < truexfan81> the channel for that distro can probably help you with that
00:52 < Tazmain> Hi all, for some reason my search in the win 10 menu, is giving me results of apps that have been removed, and its nor finding current apps./ I can no longer locate the option to redo the index?
00:53 < Stryyker> Tazmain: did you check the Raymond Chen blog sepeck and I pasted?
00:53 < iluminator105> its only 4.61 GB
00:53 < iluminator105> it should burn
00:54 < Stryyker> How are you doing it?
00:54 < Tazmain> Stryyker, unaware of the blog. Didn't see your paste
00:54 < iluminator105> using windows standard burn
00:54 < Stryyker> Tazmain: scroll up looking for oldnewthing
00:54 < Stryyker> iluminator105: anything on the disc?
00:55 < Tazmain> Stryyker, not in my history but found that in google
00:55 < iluminator105> Stryyker, blank
00:55 < Stryyker> illuminated: are you copying the ISO to disk or burning as an image?
00:56 < iluminator105> burn image
00:56 < Stryyker> Do you have a spare USB flash disk?
00:56 < iluminator105> no
00:57 < Stryyker> Writable media has less capacity than pressed. Checked in the distro channel?
01:32 < S_SubZero> argh, 1803 did something weird to Edge.  The Favorites are all gone, but if I try typing one in from memory, it shows the star like it's in Favorites.  Woohoo
01:32 < NinjaKirby> Hi, are there legit Windows Serial key resellers at all in the online market, or is the only safe option to buy the physical medium with a key accompanied?
01:33 < S_SubZero> i would only purchase keys from Microsoft or a certified reseller.
01:34 < NinjaKirby> S_SubZero, thanks, I'll google around for those certified resellers then, there's a site called EmpireGaming that gets good reviews on TrustPilot, but it just seems to good to be true, cheaper than I'd expect anyway.
01:35 < jcotton> S_SubZero: what do you mean they're gone?
01:37 < ffreeeak> hey guys, does anyone recommend an open program only to trim the lenght of videos?
01:37 < S_SubZero> i mean my favorites is all blank.  But my history is still there, and if I start typing in a site I know should be in favorites, it has the star icon
01:37 < jcotton> Oh
01:37 < jcotton> Lol
01:38 < jcotton> Switch to Firefox!
01:40 < sepeck> http://www.freenode-windows.org/channel-guidelines/not-a-sales-channel---where-to-buy-windows-faq
01:40 < quakslikeadukk> Hola! Superior salutations and blue skies, amigos ^^
01:41 < quakslikeadukk> About that!  .. I noticed, on eBay there are numerous under-priced Windows-keys and related software.. I don't know what/why, but it's Far from what seems at all feasible for any honest seller.. what's up with that, anyone know..??
01:41 < quakslikeadukk> Queried my dad,seemed to have no idea just laughed and said i'd be scammed... hmm
01:41 < sepeck> www.freenode-windows.org/channel-guidelines/not-a-sales-channel---where-to-buy-windows-faq
01:42 < quakslikeadukk> The sellers has high rating though.. Makes me wonder how theyre allowed to keep up,assuming theyre atleast kinda shady..somehow
01:42 < quakslikeadukk> hmh.
01:42 < sepeck> last time.  Read the link.  Move on
01:42 < quakslikeadukk> O,that was for me..  well I know where to find official retailers n more. Thanks tho
01:42 < NinjaKirby> I apologise for being one of those people that asked the question, sepeck, heh.
01:43 < sepeck> NinjaKirby: you didn't continue on :)
01:43 < emptyArray> Any get hit with White Rose crypto virus?
01:43 < emptyArray> anyone*
01:44 < quakslikeadukk> Nah, I refrain from partaking in shady dealings and visiting the dirty corners of the web personally. Totally healthy here, at worst a questionable browser extension on occasion. ^_^
01:44 < jorja> Hello
01:45 < quakslikeadukk> Yes.Hello.-
01:45 < quakslikeadukk> sit down, please.  explain , what's up? also , how do yuo do?
01:45 < emptyArray> haha..yea a customer of mine is currently stuck.  No backups...nothing.  Thought maybe someone had a decrypter on hand :)
01:45 < quakslikeadukk> emptyArray: decrypter, did you see the nomoreransomware site..?
01:46 < quakslikeadukk> If not now, one may likely become available
01:46 < jorja> I have a windows 10 computer and my task bar is missing, I have no background, nothing. Is there a way to get the task bar back without hard restarting it?
01:46 < nickgaw> Hi, Anyone here used windows to go I have a question about burning a single instance of it to a windows to go certified drive?
01:46 < emptyArray> quakslikeadukk: Yes, we looked there, nada
01:47 < quakslikeadukk> also, I'd try basically "freeze" that disk; not allow further propagation (if any likely..) and destruction of disk;  if no other way, may have luck with forensic data recovery software
01:47 < quakslikeadukk> rather image it and play with said image. possibly as a file, as a virtual disk
01:47 < emptyArray> I was thinking about booting up Kali and mounting the drive
01:48 < emptyArray> trying it that way.  Issue is they need it up quick and WANT to pay the ransom..
01:48 < quakslikeadukk> Kali does not have much in terms of forensic tools I believe
01:48 < emptyArray> ah
01:48 < sepeck> restore from backup
01:48 < emptyArray> no backups unfortunately
01:48 < quakslikeadukk> but similar/semi-related distros of similar kind (kinda) may,
01:48 < emptyArray> they didn't want to pay for it and are now paying for it
01:49 < sepeck> then contact your AV vender.  Start over and accept the loss
01:49 < sepeck> http://www.freenode-windows.org/resources/antimalware
01:49 < sepeck> maybe try #security and see if they have resources there.
01:49 < quakslikeadukk> check forensic wiki,  #dfir and such general tags around for updated info.  Alsoo distrowatch.cc may have some
01:50 < quakslikeadukk> even on WIndows,  get the Debian for windows..ser repositories to some of the forensic-focused distros; most packages if not all Id assume compatible
01:50 < quakslikeadukk> Cain possibly one example. Sorry I should end here Im afraid they dont like me too much here:z
01:50 < sepeck> so... ##linux for linux discussions please
01:51 < quakslikeadukk> Linux is Windows now, too! =)
01:51 < emptyArray> ok, thanks much all
01:51 < sepeck> WSL is not a download and boot from iso type think
01:51 < quakslikeadukk> o\r..Windows is Linux now too..'
01:51 < nickgaw> Basically my question is do I need windows educational or enterprise to bothburn and run windows to go or just to run windows to go can I burn a windows to go drive on pro with an enterprise or eductional image file?
01:51 < quakslikeadukk> no its powershell download and integrates with the OS
01:52 < sepeck> quakslikeadukk: WSL is more complex then that, it's from the Store.
01:52 < jorja> I have a windows 10 computer and my task bar is missing, I have no background, nothing. Is there a way to get the task bar back without hard restarting it?
01:52 < quakslikeadukk> nick  please rephrase, I did not understand at least.
01:52 < quakslikeadukk> sepeck: oh..
01:52 < sepeck> nickgaw: you need a license for either.  For Enterprise you'd get it from your Enterprise portal, via VL.  FOr School, you'd get it through your DreamSpark program admin, etc
01:53 < quakslikeadukk> acually, sorry; I'm newb to most the store stuff actually, and prolly shouldnt try argue against you if claim any such...may be right. Im baerly learning about the store and much there Ive previously missed (surprisingly much nice to find too)
01:53 < nickgaw> I own a windows 10 pro license but was wondering in order to run windows to go I know you need an educational or enterprise image if I download such an image can I burn windows to go drives using pro or does educational or enterprise also need to be running on the system that is burning the image?
01:54 < nickgaw> true but I mean can I burn windows to go on pro using an educational or enterprise wim file?
01:55 < sepeck> nickgaw: MS site has detailed instructions on windows 2 go.  As do some other sites
01:55 < jcotton> Pro does have the W2G creator iirc
01:55 < sepeck> nickgaw: MS site has detailed instructions on windows 2 go.
01:56 < sepeck> jcotton: unless something changed, pretty sure it's limited to Ent or EDU versions
01:56 < jcotton> W2G itself yes
01:56 < sepeck> Windows To Go is a feature in Windows 10 Enterprise and Windows 10 Education that enables the creation of a Windows To Go workspace that can be booted from a USB-connected external drive on PCs.
01:56 < jcotton> But the creation wizard exists on Pro iirc
01:56 < jcotton> It just asks for an Edu or Ent image
01:56 < sepeck> http://www.freenode-windows.org/resources/all-windows-versions/iso
02:02 < jorja> I have a windows 10 computer and my task bar is missing, I have no background, nothing. Is there a way to get the task bar back without hard restarting it?
02:05 < NinjaKirby> Jorja, I'm not so savvy with Win10 but maybe Ctrl+Alt+Del to get the Task Manager, then end and begin a new explorer.exe process. I presume Hard restarting means hitting the physical reset button... in which case this would avoid that.
02:05 < jorja> NinjaKirby: How else would I restart a computer that has no start menu
02:06 < NinjaKirby> ... Touché, I guess
02:07 < NinjaKirby> I just tried ending and starting a new Explorer.exe on my Win10 laptop, worked great.
02:07 < jcotton> There's a power button on the Ctrl+alt+del screen
02:07 < jorja> And I o not even see explorer up on task manager
02:07 < sepeck> cmdline shutdown cmd   powershell stop-computer cmdlet
02:07 < jcotton> jorja: ^
02:07 < jorja> but it might be different for 10 I don't now
02:08 < sepeck> as jcotton says, cntrl-alt-del   lower right for power button
02:08 < jorja> I DO NOT WANT TO RESTART
02:09 < sepeck> you have somethign crashed.  Also, do not yell
02:09 < jcotton> jorja: try starting explorer from task manager?
02:09 < jcotton> In the file menu there's a optoin for starting a new task
02:09 < sepeck> long shot, in Task Manager > File > Run > explorer sometimes works
02:10 < sepeck> it depends on what has crashed, how and why
02:10 < jorja> I do not see explorer
02:10 < sepeck> then try it?
02:10 < NinjaKirby> The visual symptoms he describes happened to match my screen when ending explorer.exe, but I guess it could be a coincidence.
02:10 < jcotton> jorja: you
02:10 < jcotton> Ack
02:10 < jcotton> You're starting explorer back up, not killing it
02:11 < Tin_man> he's gone
02:11 < sepeck> normal for him
02:11 < NinjaKirby> Huh, he didn't even lose system stability? He just /parted
02:11 < NinjaKirby> Aight.
02:17 < S_SubZero> ok 1803's new "things to make Defender Security Center turn a color other than green" is bugging me lol
02:17 < truexfan81> mine stays yellow S_SubZero even on 1709 cause i don't let it keep the option on to collect and send things to MS for analysis
02:18 < truexfan81> automatic sample submission, or something like that
02:20 < truexfan81> S_SubZero: also the cloud based protection, i keep that turned off, and defender doesn't like it
02:20 < S_SubZero> it dinged me for (a) not having bluetooth so I couldn't (b) set up Dynamic Lock (the new name for the thing where if you walk away with your phone it auto-locks the screen, which I've never seen work)
02:22 < DLSteve> Mine dings me on Firewall settings.
02:22 < Tin_man> i'm living a ding free life.
02:23  * sepeck is also living a ding free life
02:24 < S_SubZero> it does also ding for not using a Microsoft Account.
02:24 < sepeck> I am using an MS Account.  I do have a local admin account, but I rarely use it
02:25 < S_SubZero> hey but 1803 DID fix a deployment issue i had with custom start tiles.  So hey, awesomeness?
02:26 < truexfan81> maybe this weekend i'll have 1803
02:26 < truexfan81> appears the download will finish about the time i go to bed, and then i still gotta run esd2iso on it
02:26 < jorja> Should I be worried if one website (and only one time when I first vist it does it do this) go to a webpage that says a virus has been (you know the scam). The site is one I would trust or used to trust. My scans have come back clean but it bugs me that it keeps happening
02:27 < sepeck> https://www.scamwatch.gov.au/news/your-computer-is-infected-fake-anti-virus-pop-up-alert-scams
02:27 < truexfan81> jorja: get ublock origin and never have to see that again
02:27 < jorja> truexfan81: I do not want to block the site I am using because of that
02:28 < sepeck> then I guess don't worry about it
02:28 < jorja> sepeck: Not a pop up it is the tab that goes to it
02:28  * sepeck sighs
02:28 < truexfan81> jorja: wasn't suggesting you do, ublock would simply block the scam site the "ad" is being loaded from
02:29 < jorja> sepeck: It is getting kinda old fast
02:30 < sepeck> then block it?
02:30 < sepeck> people give you suggestions and you argue about why you can't do that
02:31 < sepeck> just 5 minutes ago you were asking about a task bar, suggestions were made, you left.  Now you are here with random website quesitons.  Maybe try #web?
02:33 < jorja> block the website I go to
02:33 < sepeck> you're not reading waht was suggested
02:34 < Tin_man> well, lets see the virus warnings are comming from that site, so yes you'd have to block that site, evidently that site is a little suspect.
02:34 < sepeck> well, truexfan81 suggestion was more specific
02:35 < sepeck> granted, I'd block the site and fail to visit it myself
02:35 < jorja> I did block the website
02:35 < sepeck> then I guess we're done
02:35 < jorja> I do not think I want to block answers.yahoo.com
02:35 < sepeck> was truexfan81 answer unclear somhow?
02:35 < truexfan81> more likely the site is loading an "ad" from an outside source, ublock would likely block that outside source, so you could view the site without seeing the scam "ad"
02:36 < truexfan81> i can't make it anymore clear than that
02:36 < Tin_man> i wouldn't run my browser with out Ublock.
02:37 < jorja> I do not know how to block website
02:37 < Tin_man> ah, yea, i had to complain to MS about Edge, it keeps turning off my Ublock..
02:37 < jorja> and I donot have the link to the site
02:37 < jcotton> Tin_man: it's in the Store now
02:37 < jcotton> No need to side load it
02:37  * truexfan81 gives up
02:37 < Tin_man> i'm not. mine is from the store
02:37 < jcotton> Oh
02:37 < jcotton> Odd
02:37 < truexfan81> Tin_man: odd, mine stays on
02:38 < Tin_man> i don't understand it myself.
02:38 < Tin_man> just every oncen in a while I start edge up and ublock is off.
02:38 < truexfan81> i have it installed from the store for edge, and then chrome and firefox have it from their respective stores
02:39 < Tin_man> same here
02:39 < Guest67> windows ten requires the nx cpu flag. what is that? do i really need it?
02:39 < jorja> I guess I will just deal with it
02:39 < jcotton> Guest67: it's the no-execute bit
02:40 < jcotton> It lets certain memory be marked as non-executable
02:40 < jcotton> It's a security feature
02:40 < jcotton> You want it
02:40 < jcotton> s/certain/parts of/
02:40 < jorja> it just gets really old after a while
02:41 < Guest67> in bios i have to enable "no execution bit (nx)" ??
02:41 < jcotton> There might be an option
02:41 < jcotton> jorja: just install an ad block
02:41 < jcotton> *blocker
02:41 < jcotton> Like uBlock Oring
02:41 < jcotton> *Origin
02:41 < jcotton> It will fix your problem
02:42 < jorja> I have an ad blocker
02:42 < truexfan81> which one?
02:42 < jorja> Firefox one
02:43 < jcotton> Firefox's built-in tracking protection isn
02:43 < Tin_man> like 3 or 4 different add blocks
02:43 < jcotton> *isn't really an ad blocker
02:43 < NinjaKirby> Thanks for the support fellows, have a good evening.
02:44  * truexfan81 bows out of this discussion
02:44 < Guest67> o have enables nx and now setup start, thanks
02:44 < noway96> How do I compile .rc files?
02:44 < Stryyker> noway96: #winapi
02:45 < jorja> Sorry I am too stupid to know anything. I will just deal with it
02:45 < jorja> It only happens once in awhile and only one site
03:13 < litewait> windows 10 update is looping over and over and I cant get into windows, what keystroke will allow me to get into safe mode or soemthing?
03:17 < ekym> power it off with the button 3 times should do it
03:23 < litewait> you mean let it start booting and each time just hold teh power button down for 5 seconds or so?
03:23 < jorja> Should I be worried if one website (and only one time when I first vist it does it do this) go to a webpage that says a virus has been (you know the scam). The site is one I would trust or used to trust. My scans have come back clean but it bugs me that it keeps happening
03:24 < truexfan81> i thought you gave up on that
03:24 < jcotton> Ad networks are full of crap
03:26 < truexfan81> they should really be called Add networks, cause they add crap to an otherwise nice website amiright?
03:27 < jorja> Sorry that it bugs the heck out of me and I want to fix it
03:27 < jorja> 3but too fing stupid to know how
03:28 < P1RATEZ> can someone tell me if this fix addresses wi-fi issues with windows 10 where the wifi disconnects and causes the laptop to freeze https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-releases-windows-10-build-143932156-with-a-fix-for-connectivity-issues
03:29 < jcotton> You're still on 14393?
03:29 < truexfan81> jorja: 1. go to the mozilla addons site. 2. search for ublock. 3. click add to firefox, done
03:29 < jorja> I have an ad blocker already
03:30 < truexfan81> jorja: well its obviously a useless one then because its not blocking that scam ad
03:30 < P1RATEZ> no i'm on the latest build, but the issue still persists, hoping the spring update clears that issue up.
03:30 < jcotton> Ah
03:31 < jcotton> Well, that update doesn't apply to
03:31 < jcotton> B/c it's for 1607, not 1703
03:31 < jcotton> *apply to you
03:32 < P1RATEZ> it's affecting the laptop, i'm on the desktop but that laptop is just collecting dust, used it for 1 hour out of the box, never used it again ;] was hoping and older 'update/downgrade' patch would have helped. i searched the change logs for wireless/networking/connection fixes
03:32 < P1RATEZ> just curious, has others mentioned similar issues in here?
03:38 < Stryyker> P1RATEZ: tried a driver change?
03:39 < Stryyker> maybe there is a different issue
03:39 < P1RATEZ> this is the issue i'm having, same as the other users on this post. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-networking-winpc/windows-10-freezes-only-on-wifi/8b122efe-a100-4e84-b2ac-ceb71058bbdb
03:40 < Stryyker> What have you tried?
03:40 < P1RATEZ> tried bios update, driver update/downgrade/windows8, power management, wireless modes/channels, ping router via cmd shell...
03:40 < Stryyker> What else have you checked?
03:41 < P1RATEZ> sysinternal tools to monitor file/reg access
03:42 < Stryyker> Anything else?
03:44 < P1RATEZ> hmm..winsock reset
03:46 < Stryyker> Anything else?
03:49 < naphtali> P1RATEZ, is your issue with that exact wireless card? I had a client with the same issue on that 8188 NIC
03:49 < naphtali> This was on an HP Business laptop, I forget the exact model
03:49 < P1RATEZ> its broadcom wireless 4...
03:49 < P1RATEZ> its HP
03:49 < P1RATEZ> its that demonic HP
03:50 < naphtali> I eventually just swapped the card for an Intel
03:50 < P1RATEZ> think its hardware?
03:50 < naphtali> Some type of incompatibility
03:50 < naphtali> I have a low opinion of Realtek and some Broadcom
03:50 < P1RATEZ> just like that, less than 1 month of actual usage and it dies? wow
03:51 < naphtali> No, it was not dead
03:51 < naphtali> The Intel NIC was like $30 and life is short
03:56 < P1RATEZ> Stryyker, thanks for the continued questioning. That helped me find some commands that I can test http://www.sysprobs.com/fixed-windows-10-limited-connectivity-not-getting-ip-from-dhcp
03:57 < P1RATEZ> Never tried these ones, lets see.
03:57 < Stryyker> I was trying to get as much detail before suggesting things. It is annoying to ask people to try things with the response "I tried that"
04:11 < jorja> Should I be worried if one website (and only one time when I first vist it does it do this) go to a webpage that says a virus has been (you know the scam). The site is one I would trust or used to trust. My scans have come back clean but it bugs me that it keeps happening
04:12 < Stryyker> Stop visiting that site.
04:12 < quakslikeadukk> where did it say that / what said that?
04:12 < Stryyker> They have crappy ads
04:13 < quakslikeadukk> Even web sites you trust; huge comercial sites even... yeah, ads.. third-party providers, they may be compromised while that huge site may not have been.... who knows. Nowhere is fully safe.
04:13 < quakslikeadukk> Just note, if any targeted, or malware of particular value, new, considerd "good".... u'd likely never have found out rather.
04:15 < jorja> Stryyker: I do not or need to stop visit a good site
04:16 < Stryyker> If that site has the ad you should.
04:17 < jorja> so you would stop visiting a site because of an scam that pops up once in a while and the site is a good site
04:17 < jorja> that does not fix the issue at all
04:17 < Stryyker> A good site doesn't put scam ads on their site.
04:17 < Stryyker> Someone told you how to fix it and you refuse.
04:18 < quakslikeadukk> disable javascript,flash , java... should cover a good bit of thepotential risks. Enable selecively, preferrablyafter quick check /sent in for analysis (many free "malware url check"-sites for example) as required
04:18 < Stryyker> jorja: The only alternative I can think of is to complain to the site. What else do you expect this channel to do?
04:19 < S_SubZero> it’s not even topical.
04:19 < jorja> I was just looking for a way around this scam,
04:19 < jorja> so I fing asaked here
04:20 < quakslikeadukk> ..u #windows rulers..the fun police...booh
04:20 < Stryyker> jorja: You was told how. You refuse to do it. What do you want us to do?
04:20 < jorja> I have n ad block
04:21 < quakslikeadukk> there are ways around, to keep a distance, to pre-analyze and judge etc..many ways
04:21 < jorja> so I DID WHAT I WAS TOLD BEFORE I WAS FIUNG TOLD TO DO IT
04:21 < quakslikeadukk> ad block.... good luck.  stay away from me when u're overloaded with viruses pls eh
04:22 < quakslikeadukk> patience, self control... we're not always very good at explaining or expressing ourselves yknow, be patient with us too.
04:22 < Stryyker> quakslikeadukk: please read http://www.freenode-windows.org/channel-guidelines and subsections
04:23 < quakslikeadukk> .hhhhhhh....yeah,ok then..ill try.
04:23 < quakslikeadukk> (finally..!?=)
04:57 < truexfan81> lol 3 hours to download the esd, 3minutes to convert it to iso
05:00 < Dr_Coke> What is the esd?
05:00 < truexfan81> windows 10 1803
05:01 < Dr_Coke> oh oh
05:01 < Dr_Coke> Is Windows 10 redstone 4 out yet?
05:03 < truexfan81> nope, hence getting it from the insider esd
05:03 < Dr_Coke> truexfan81 when
05:03 < Dr_Coke> truexfan81 when's the release date
05:04 < truexfan81> should be out on 4/10
05:05 < Maarten> it STARTS on 4/10, not everyone will get the update on that day.... they stagger it a little bit to conserve bandwidth, spread the load. But by the end of April everyone probably has it.
05:06 < Dr_Coke> Really by the end of april
05:06 < Dr_Coke> damn
05:06 < Dr_Coke> Maarten what if you download it from the microsoft site
05:06 < Dr_Coke> as an iso
05:07 < Dr_Coke> also I have a lenovo laptop that complained it needed a driver for something maybe the cd rom but it wouldn't progress any further with the windows 10 installation from the cd rom
05:07 < Dr_Coke> I don't know what I need to do to get it working I don't know exactly what driver it wants
05:08 < Maarten> Dr_Coke, the ISO is usually not immediately updated..... could be, but don't know. I don't care, I'll just wait till it shows up. I'll get it when I get it. If I was a "must have NOW" person, I would joined the Windows Insider program :P
05:09 < truexfan81> slow ring and fast ring are both on 1803 release at the moment
05:10 < Maarten> right :)
05:11 < truexfan81> i found a site that had links to the esd files for windows update, downloaded the one for 1803 en-us x64, downloaded it, then used a free program called esd2iso to convert it to an iso file, am now testing it in a vm
05:11 < stevendale> Windows 10 1709 or bust
05:26 < jcotton> Maarten: the staggering is not for saving bandwidth
05:26 < P1RATEZ> Dr_Coke: For the leveno, does it show a list of hard drives to select during the installation?
05:26 < jcotton> it's so if there's a bug it doesn'
05:26 < jcotton> t break millions of PCs
05:26 < jcotton> the full rollout actually takes months
05:26 < Dr_Coke> P1RATEZ I'm not sure I forget
05:27 < Dr_Coke> what if it doesn't
05:29 < P1RATEZ> I've experienced similar issue in the past, it just needed driver to sideload (via USB) for it to recognize. You can find chipset driver perhaps (download the .zip file and extract it to USB) then when it prompts, just browse and select the USB. You can download the drivers related to the chipset/or hdd. You could also swap the ports the USB is plugged into e.g. 2.0 vs 3.0
05:30 < jcotton> P1RATEZ: Windows 10 has it's own USB3 drivers
05:31 < P1RATEZ> Take the exact question and paste it into Google "lenovo laptop that complained it needed a driver with the windows 10 installation". There are mentions of the DVDROM burn rates but I doubt it would affect it.
05:31 < Dr_Coke> amd sata driver
05:31 < Dr_Coke> I think someone says
05:32 < Dr_Coke> to recongize my dvd drive
05:32 < Dr_Coke> I have a amd lenovo
05:32 < P1RATEZ> sata controller drivers, right.
05:32 < P1RATEZ> it'll work
05:33 < P1RATEZ> You'll know it works when the drives get listed.
05:42 < Dr_Coke> P1RATEZ only problem is they come in an exe format
05:42 < Dr_Coke> the ones i found
05:42 < jcotton> Dr_Coke: try invoking them with -?, -help, etc
05:42 < jcotton> that might show some swithces
05:42 < jcotton> or open it up with 7zip or similar
05:42 < Dr_Coke> like it's called cataylst
05:43 < P1RATEZ> See if this works https://www.legroom.net/software/uniextract
05:44 < P1RATEZ> The trick to getting those unpacked files without installing it, is to run it but stop at the 'click next to install' screen. You can browse the /AppData/Local/Temp or /Roaming/Temp/ or /Windows/Temp/ folders for those extracted files.
05:45 < P1RATEZ> Keep the installation window open while browsing so it doesn't purge the files if the install was cancelled.
05:45 < P1RATEZ> Lots of options.
05:47 < Dr_Coke> thanks
05:48 < P1RATEZ> If those don't work, there's Sandboxie to redirect the installation to a folder without installing.
05:52 < P1RATEZ> If that is too much, check the BIOS for options with LEGACY BOOT or similar
06:04 < Dr_Coke> P1RATEZ thanks a lot
06:06 < P1RATEZ> got it?
07:02 < Nizumzen> does anyone know how much of a performance impact Bitlocker encryption has on an SSD used as the C drive?
07:03 < Nizumzen> the SSD is an NVMe drive and my CPU has the AES NI instruction set
07:03 < Stryyker> It shouldn't be noticable if you're not CPU bound.
07:04 < Nizumzen> shouldn't be - the CPU is an i9 7900X at 4.4Ghz
07:05 < Aelius> "they havent updated cmd in 20 years"
07:05 < Aelius> hey wait a minute
07:05 < Aelius> they updated cmd for w10
07:07 < Nizumzen> hmm might do this as well https://www.howtogeek.com/262744/how-to-use-a-usb-key-to-unlock-a-bitlocker-encrypted-pc/
07:11 < Stryyker> Nizumzen: https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/69h9vu/bitlocker_system_disk_full_encryption_overhead_on/
07:15 < Nizumzen> Stryyker: interesting - thanks
07:16 < Stryyker> If you poke around, suitable searching you may find a benchmark for the SSD you have.
07:17 < Stryyker> I guess the other thing is what is more important to you - full speed or encyrption.
07:18 < Nizumzen> alas I was an idiot when I bought this computer and got an OEM Samsung NVMe drive so that is a little tricky
07:18 < Stryyker> It'll have a model number of some sort.
07:18 < Nizumzen> I think it is the OEM version of the 960 Pro
07:20 < Stryyker> ##hardware may help you identify it or tell you if there is an equivalent retail model
07:21 < Nizumzen> I'll check it out - I might need to talk to the company that made the PC as Samsung don't provide firmware updates for OEM models to end users
08:50 < keiserr> hi, I am trying to reset my windows 10 password, but there's no forgot password option on the login menu as described on the support page of microsoft, any help at that?
08:51 < S_SubZero> is it a local password. or a Microsoft Account password?
08:52 < keiserr> A Microsoft account, I went through the online microsoft account password reset, I did reset it, but I still can't login to the machine
08:52 < S_SubZero> does it have internet access?
08:53 < keiserr> it says connected. should I maybe restart it again?
08:53 < S_SubZero> can try
08:55 < keiserr> ok, i'll try that.
08:55 < krishan> hi, i am having blinking black and white screen after windows logo on starting pc, and same in safe mode. Is there any way to fix this?
08:57 < S_SubZero> the screen blinks?  like is it hurting your eyes?
08:57 < krishan> yes. but not in order, it blinks randomly when i touch the cursor.
08:57 < keiserr> password changed online, but not on machine :(
08:58 < krishan> not pc, its a laptop**
09:08 < spaces> morning, is there already a known fix for KB4088776 that is not installed properly on Windows 10 ?
09:09 < krishan> S_SubZero, any luck i can fix it?
09:15 < S_SubZero> I’ve never done a password reset for that before but I assume with internet acccess it should just work
10:00 < Whiskey> Anyone really smart here?
10:00 < bazhang> Whiskey, ask your issue
10:01 < Whiskey> I have a schedule task in windows 10
10:01 < Whiskey> it works awsome :)
10:01 < Whiskey> the damn program crash sometimes so i check if its running every h and if not just start it again :)
10:01 < Whiskey> Anyways
10:02 < Whiskey> If i use RDP i get the stupid UAC and need to accept that the computer starts the program but when i don´t use RDP it works smooth and fine
10:03 < Whiskey> atlest i think its UAC i don´t see what else it could be that need approval for running the software
10:05 < weq> well so far we've gotten a story but no details regarding what is in the task, or how it is set to trigger or anything. So new episode next week or can we expect something today?
10:06 < weq> https://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc/
10:11 < hwweiler> is there a way to find out from which build or date the iso image will be if using MediaCreationTool?
10:12 < weq> find the wim or esd file and use dism to mount it and check file version numbers I guess.
10:26 < sammyg> anyone here running windows 10 in a vm?
10:26 < blkshp> yes
10:26 < blkshp> On a windows 10 host, 2 of them what's the question!
10:27 < hwweiler> weq: was hoping M$ provided that info on a website
10:28 < weq> hwweiler: and we are not fond of childish terms like M$
10:28 < S_SubZero> “M$” man I feel like it’s 1997 again where’s my ZIP drive
10:28 < sammyg> blkshp, hyper-v?
10:28 < weq> if you aren't an adult then act like it.
10:28 < blkshp> Yes.
10:29 < sammyg> you need windows 10 pro for that?
10:29 < blkshp> No
10:29 < blkshp> Well, i have Windows 10 Pro but im pretty sure any OS with Hyper-V installed can create a Widnwos 10 VM
10:31 < sammyg> oh i think youre wrong
10:31 < blkshp> You are, of course entitled to your opinion!
10:31 < jennam> i think it is a pro thing
10:31 < sammyg> hyper-v doesnt come as a free standing package?
10:31 < weq> Hyper-v server is not the same as hyper-v in windows 10 pro
10:32 < blkshp> no, but it does come in 7ro, ent, edu, 8 pro, ent, edu, 10, pro, entm edu
10:32 < sammyg> ah!
10:32 < sammyg> so waht's your host os then? hyper-v server?
10:33 < blkshp> Win 10 pro
10:33 < weq> Hyper-v is technically the OS. But we say windows 10 pro.
10:33 < S_SubZero> You could also use a third-party app like Virtualbox or whatever
10:33 < sammyg> so minimum requirement windows 10 pro for hyper-v hosting?
10:34 < weq> 64 bit processor with SLAT, HW virtualization and minimum 4GB memory.
10:35 < S_SubZero> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/virtualization/hyper-v-on-windows/quick-start/enable-hyper-v
10:35 < S_SubZero> yes there are actual Microsoft document pages on this stuff
10:39 < sammyg> blkshp, what's the performance like on the windows 10 vm guests? compared to the host?
10:40 < sammyg> how much performance overhead when you run win 10 in a vm?
10:40 < sammyg> assuming of course you have a modern processor like the new core i7 8700 or the ryzen 7 1700
10:41 < blkshp> Mine is pretty good, i have allocated it quite significant resources and i do have a xeon processor
10:41 < blkshp> CPU: 8 x Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1535M v6 @ 3.10GHz @ 3096 MHZ (Intel64 Family 6 Model 158 Stepping 9), 1024 KB Cache
10:44 < sammyg> looking good
10:44 < sammyg> mobile?
10:45 < blkshp> yes
10:45 < sammyg> hp zbook maybe?
10:45 < blkshp> Lenovo P71
10:59 < purplex88> where can i find information on this error
10:59 < purplex88> "insufficient system resources exist to complete the requested service"
11:01 < sammyg> https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/1961f079-2092-4ccb-9e70-8d8fb22f8393/insufficient-system-resources-exist-to-complete-the-requested-service-not-related-to-kernell?forum=winserverGP
11:01 < sammyg> in what context does that happen?
11:02 < purplex88> I mean is there an article on this error by microsoft?
11:02 < purplex88> when running a program
11:02 < purplex88> it happens
11:02 < sammyg> what windows version?
11:02 < sammyg> what program?
11:03 < sammyg> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2498066/insufficient-system-resources-exist-to-complete-the-requested-service
11:03 < sammyg> Applies to: Exchange Server 2007 Service Pack 3Exchange Server 2007 Enterprise EditionExchange Server 2007 Standard Edition
11:04 < sammyg> This issue occurs because the NT file system (NTFS) fragmentation reaches the maximum size limit.
11:26 < Stryyker> Have you modified pagefile settings?
12:46 < Balab> Hi, What do you use if you want to sync your drive of folder to a server or nas every time something changes on the drive or in the folder?
12:49 < Balab> I mean mirroring two folders on a network
12:49 < Balab> With free software
12:51 < binkio> Hi! Does anyone know if theSPa and SPb on EMC are actual linux/windows servers that one can connect to? I can ping them but I do not seem to be able to connect.
12:57 < Stryyker> Balab: I do it nightly with software that came with the NAS
12:59 < Balab> Actually we have an Ubuntu server but from the nas to make sync we have to share that drive/folder which we want to sync but we don't want to share it. So we need to "send" from the client not "pull" from the server/nas.
14:13 < blkshp> #j ##windows-server
14:16 < Guest63572> Hello, why can't I control my brightness from windows anymore ?
14:17 < Stryyker> What has been changed since you could?
14:17 < rymate1234> Guest63572, usually a driver issue
14:17 < rymate1234> at least on laptops
14:17 < Guest63572> I don't know I never could on this pc, it's my work pc
14:18 < Guest63572> It's a desktop not a laptop
14:18 < rymate1234> I've never used a desktop where it could adjust the brightness of the monitor
14:19 < Stryyker> Is it a branded PC?
14:19 < Guest63572> It's a Dell Optiplex 7050
14:19 < TheBard> maybe Dell came with a windows app that talked to the monitor.
14:19 < Stryyker> Checked Dell's site?
14:20 < Guest63572> What would I be looking for there ?
14:25 < TheBard> Look up your model, use your SR number (if that's what dell calls it I forget) and it will show you all the software that came with it.
14:25 < Guest63572> Ok I'll check that thx
14:28 < Guest63572> there's some bios stuff and things... but i'm reading on the internet that you can't control brightness of external monitor from windows...
14:28 < TheBard> well you cant frome anything else eitehr
14:29 < TheBard> not unless they provide you with some app that talks to their monitor.
14:29 < stevendale> Kill it with fire
14:30 < Guest63572> Isn't it archaic to have to use the OSD ? In linux desktops I used to do it all the time, from the os...
14:30 < rymate1234> I've never been able to do it on linux
14:30 < Guest63572> Mb samsung has some app that I can use to do that (my monitor is a samsung)
14:31 < TheBard> check your services.  most people call that stuff bloat ware and don't want it running in the background
14:31 < TheBard> Is it too bright for you?
14:32 < Guest63572> You mean it would be there but disabled as a service ? Yeah too bright
14:32 < TheBard> I sit in a punishing florescent light situation. So I use Windows Night Light feature all day long. You can trim the color temp to removed the blue harshness.  I find it a relief.
14:33 < blkshp> me too
14:34 < Guest63572> My monitor has "eye care" that diminishes blue light but still I find it too bright even on the lowest setting of brightness and blue light... mb i'll try night light
14:34 < blkshp> It's a samsung isnt it :)_
14:34 < Guest63572> OSDs UIs are so archaic.. you have to spam the button and things like that lul I hate them
14:34 < Guest63572> No it's a BenQ
14:35 < weq> let's get back on topic shall we Guest63572
14:35 < Guest63572> Almost bought a samsung that had it too
14:35 < Guest63572> The topic is I want to control brightness from windows cause it's 2018 :D
14:35 < weq> Guest63572: if you wish to continue discussing monitors I suggest you move it over to ##hardware
14:36 < weq> it is not Windows function to adjust brightness, they have a set of control that HW manufacturers might leverage for their device, and that is it.
14:36 < Guest63572> weq: that is really helpful thank you
14:39 < Guest63572> weq: Hopefully someone on Windows at Microsoft has half a brain and doesn't think like you :) that's how computing gets better. bye
14:39 < TheBard> I copied a directory over from a non-win file share. When I enter the dir for the first time with File Exp, there is a long-ish delay, and File Exp says 'Working on it'. Subsequent visits are quick.  Why is that?
14:58 < fuze> To create a custom windows image with sysprep do i need to make a catalog file and an answer file?
15:18 < jcotton> fuze: depends on what you need the image to do
15:18 < jcotton> the catalog file is only used by System Image Manager, it's not actually used by the image
15:19 < fuze> jcotton: is it used to make the answer file?
15:19 < jcotton> SIM can be used to author an answer file
15:19 < jcotton> but what do you need this image to do
15:19 < jcotton> you don't need an answer file if you're just slipstreaming updates and capturing for example
15:19 < fuze> jcotton: but is the catalog file required to make the answer file? The image has particular settings and apps installed/removed
15:20 < jcotton> if you use SIM to author the answer file then yes, you need a catalog file
15:20 < jcotton> SIM can generate it
15:22 < fuze> jcotton: is SIM only used before sysprep?
15:22 < jcotton> SIM is an answer file authoring tool
15:22 < jcotton> it is not an inherent part of the deployment process
15:23 < jcotton> but sysprep is what consumes the answer file
15:23 < fuze> im looking to install windows without having to configure any settings in the OOBE too
15:23 < jcotton> ask in ##windows-server
15:23 < fuze> unattended install basically
15:23 < jcotton> this is their area
15:23 < fuze> even if its windows 10 pro?
15:23 < jcotton> yes
15:23 < jcotton> they handle deployment
15:43 < AlexPortable> switched to higher dpi, now back to lower, but the font size is smaller. how do i fix it?
15:43 < AlexPortable> https://imgur.com/a/aGfb2
15:44 < jcotton> did you sign out and back in?
15:44 < AlexPortable> this issue has been for 3 days now
15:44 < AlexPortable> so i hope i did when i started the system
15:45 < jcotton> oh
16:03 < nucc1> Hi, appreciate if someone could point me the right way. I'm looking for a way to track network usage data (bandwidth consumption) from within a program. Not sure which SDK module or which third-party library I could use for this.
16:13 < weq> #winapi ?
16:15 < TheBard> or maybe #csharp if it deals with .NET
16:15 < Tin_man> not an expert by any means, but doesn't Glasswire perform some of those tasks?
16:15 < TheBard> ##csharp
16:18 < nucc1> @Tin_man, glasswire does but it's not open source as far as i can tell
16:18 < nucc1> i want to see how it's done to see if i can cook up a simple tool, mainly as an educational project
16:19 < TheBard> look at Windows.Networking.Connectivity   It has things like NetworkUsage.  See MSDN.
16:20 < jcotton> that appears to be across all apps on a specific connection
16:21 < nucc1> jcotton: yes, i'm looking for system-wide usage
16:21 < jcotton> then that'll work
16:21 < jcotton> it's a UWP API tho, but you can still use it from Win32
16:21 < jcotton> nucc1: C++ or a .NET language?
16:22 < TheBard> .net works with C++
16:22 < nucc1> i was thinking i could do it in python, prefer a higher layer language, so i'll look into C#
16:22 < jcotton> TheBard: eh?
16:22 < TheBard> click the drop down on that link and switch it to C++
16:22 < weq> .net is a framework.
16:22 < weq> c++ is a language
16:22 < jcotton> you can't P/Invoke C++
16:22 < jcotton> unless you hate yourself that is
16:23 < nucc1> i understood what was meant by "a .net language"
16:23 < rymate1234> Thought TheBard meant calling .net from c++
16:24 < rymate1234> Not c++ from .net / c#
16:24 < jcotton> nucc1: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/lucian/2015/10/23/how-to-call-uwp-apis-from-a-desktop-vbc-app/
16:24 < nucc1> afaik, .net language usually refers to one of vbasic, c# or similar
16:24 < jcotton> the version number in the path will vary based on installed SDK, but the insturctions work otherwise
16:24 < jcotton> also hte nuget pkg he links is very out of date
16:24 < jcotton> targets 1607
16:35 < nucc1> thanks jcotton. visual studio is a rather hefty download. it looks like UWP apps can be made with javascript, so i'll have a go once VS is up and running.
16:40 < TheBard> unity and xamarin are alternatives that also do UWP and .js
16:43 < AlexPortable> switched to higher dpi, now back to lower, but the font size is smaller. how do i fix it? https://imgur.com/a/aGfb2
16:43 < CptLuxx> log off and on
16:44 < rymate1234> TheBard: Xamarin doesn’t do js
16:44 < TheBard> ty
16:44 < AlexPortable> CptLuxx: yes i did, i rebooted the system 3 times
16:44 < AlexPortable> the font is still small
17:28 < AlexPortable> so how do i fix font size?
17:29 < TheBard> in Windows 10?
17:31 < TheBard> there's a drop down box of choices in Settings, Display, Scale and layout.
17:31 < AlexPortable> windows 7
17:31 < AlexPortable> look at my screenshot
17:35 < tacomaster> I have a weird issue that I cant seem to figure out. I have a windows 7 machine , a windows server 2012 r2 machine, and a zebra printer. The zebra printer prints just fine on the windows 7 machine, but the windows 7 machine needs to rdp and print from the server. The printers will show up in the server and then after a few mins or so they just all disappear and wont come back until several mins (20-30).
17:37 < compdoc> do they print?
17:38 < tacomaster> It does print when it desides to show up. I have tried restarting the print spooler on both the server and the work station as well to no avail
17:49 < nambi> hello all
17:51 < nambi> hello?
17:51 < nambi> anyone herE?
17:52 < TheBard> nambi, this is a moderated support channel. please read the topic and follow along.
18:03 < Edane> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYRYJc8NaIw
18:04 < TheBard> don't click on that
18:04 < weq> Edane: we are not that type of community.
18:13 < raub> How can I find who last accessed a xlsx file?
18:15 < kruug> Do you know of any software that can keep a CPU at ~20% load and RAM active for a few hours?
18:15 < kruug> I don't need a full stress test, but I want to see if an error will come back.  Windows 7.
18:16 < TheBard> raub, search under Auditing for that capability.
18:39 < fuze> if i make changes to windows in virtualbox in audit mode, do i use the original installation image install.wim to sysprep and create a final customized image?
18:40 < jcotton> i'm not sure how you would use the original image
18:40 < fuze> jcotton: apparently in SIM
18:40 < fuze> to create the answer file
18:40 < jcotton> oh
18:41 < jcotton> for authoring the answer file you can use the original
18:41 < fuze> The problem is will this lose all my custom settings: "Windows SIM re-creates the catalog file based on the contents of the Windows image that you select. When a catalog file is created, it queries the Windows image for a listing of all the settings in that image." https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/customize/desktop/wsim/open-a-windows-image-or-catalog-file
18:42 < fuze> very confusion documentation from microsoft
18:42 < jcotton> you're recreating the catalog
18:42 < jcotton> not the answer file
18:42 < jcotton> the catalog is just a file SIM references
18:43 < fuze> so it has nothing to do with custom settings
18:43 < jcotton> no
18:46 < sepeck> ah hah!  for unsaved files, bottom right, change from Plain Text to language of choice
18:46 < jcotton> sepeck: wrong channel :P
18:46 < sepeck> d'oh!
18:46 < jcotton> sepeck: you can also do Ctrl+Shift+P -> Change language mode
18:50 < fuze> can i find the catalog file in "\sources\install.esd" as my image doesnt have a .wim file
18:51 < tobiasBora> Hello,
18:52 < tobiasBora> I accidentally deleted the windows BCD file, and I'm now booting on a live cd and I'm in a prompt
18:52 < jcotton> ... how do you do that on accident?
18:52 < tobiasBora> when I run "bootrec /RebuildBcd" it detects one installation
18:52 < tobiasBora> but when I reply "yes" to add it, I've an error like:
18:53 < tobiasBora> "The specified file is missing"
18:53 < tobiasBora> (translated from french so the translation may not be perfect)
18:53 < jcotton> probably should use bcdboot instead
18:54 < alexneudatchin> repair bootsector
18:54 < jcotton> no
18:54 < jcotton> the bootsector's fine
18:54 < jcotton> the bcd store isn't part of it
18:55 < alexneudatchin> never change
18:55 < alexneudatchin> i mean line named 'repair boot smth'
19:00 < tobiasBora> jcotton: so I should use "bcdboot /rebuildbcd"?
19:00 < tobiasBora> (note that I'm on an UEFI based system)
19:00 < jcotton> no
19:00 < jcotton> there's a different set of optoins
19:00 < jcotton> look at bcdboot /?
19:00 < jcotton> and go from there
19:03 < alexneudatchin> go after gui 'repair'
19:09 < AlexPortable> switched to higher dpi, now back to lower, but the font size is smaller. how do i fix it? https://imgur.com/a/aGfb2
19:15 < tobiasBora> jcotton: great it worked
19:16 < tobiasBora> thank you very much
19:23 < Transfusion> is there an app or a registry entry or something that I can set to have my trackpad and my mouse have different primary mouse buttons?
19:23 < Transfusion> I mouse with my left hand, thus i use the right mb as my primary, but i have a clickpad
19:25 < S_SubZero> can't you just use tap to click or whatever
19:25 < TheBard> hmm.. what about using AutoHotkey to try to hook the mouse clicks and reverse them?
19:26 < Transfusion> right, but it maps tap with 2 fingers to the primary.
19:26 < Transfusion> hmm yeahh i've done the AHK workaround in the past when i was on a thinkpad.
19:26 < S_SubZero> that's.. odd
19:26 < Transfusion> do you think it would drain battery? does it like continuously poll
19:27 < kruug> Can you change the setting in the Synaptic driver?
19:27 < kruug> They usually have an additional tab for configuring what tapping and pinching and such do.
19:28 < TheBard> there is an #ahk channel on Freenode. They probably know a lot about the details.
19:28 < Transfusion> ^ right, will ask them.
19:28 < Transfusion> kruug: S_SubZero: don't judge, it's a crapbook air with some proprietary drivers.
19:28 < kruug> Is your mouse a generic two-button, or is it a special one with it's own driver?
19:29 < Transfusion> mouse is a logitech g102, using the generic driver atm.
19:29 < Transfusion> good catch, i might try to install the proprietary driver and see if i can swap it just for that USB VID!...
19:29 < TheBard> logitech? they usually have a very fancy config program for their devices
19:29 < kruug> Does it have a Logitech driver you could use to map your buttons while leaving the Windows settings as default?
19:29 < Transfusion> yesss bingo
19:29 < jcotton> https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2018/04/04/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-17639-for-skip-ahead/
19:29 < S_SubZero> Trackpads are pretty generic it's usually like Synaptics or Alps
19:30 < Transfusion> sec i'll check in device manager
19:31 < jcotton> nice bluetooth battery status
19:31 < kruug> You mentioned Clickpad, which is Synaptic
19:31 < Transfusion> nope, manufacturer is literally "Apple Inc.", and it's not even precision compliant, it's insane :P
19:31 < kruug> jcotton: yeah, that's a useful feature.  Wish you could see it on the bluetooth icon in the tray
19:31 < S_SubZero> it took this long to inform us that it's a Mac
19:31 < Transfusion> ahh sry i didn't realize clickpad was a trademark :P i meant that it was a buttonless trackpad kruug
19:32 < Transfusion> i did hint at it being a macbook air above :P
19:32 < kruug> No worries
19:32 < S_SubZero> Transfusion: no, you didn't.
19:32 < kruug> He called it a Crapbook Air
19:32 < jak2000> hi all
19:33 < kruug> hi jak2000
19:33 < S_SubZero> You may find this hard to believe, but there are other laptops, not made by Apple, with "Air" in the name
19:33 < jak2000> i have 1 file named AXPiece.pdf with size of 825 kb  i need found a EXACT file (Content) but sure, have other name... how to do this task? how to find it? thanks
19:34 < jcotton> ... what?
19:34 < S_SubZero> you pasted from google translate didn't you
19:35 < jcotton> *Earth
19:35 < jcotton> ack
19:35 < jak2000> again... :)
19:36 < jak2000> 1)  i have a file named:  AXPiece.pdf with size of 825 kb
19:36 < jak2000> 2) i have other file in my Hard Drive, whit exact content...
19:36 < jak2000> but different name...
19:36 < jcotton> so you have a duplicate of that file on a different drive
19:36 < jcotton> and you want to find it?
19:37 < jak2000> my question is: how to look the 2dn file in my hard drive( both files is on dirve d: )
19:37 < jak2000> yes
19:37 < jak2000> not know the name of the 2nd file... but i know: is ESACT size/Content
19:37 < TheBard> if the content is 'exact' a checksum comparion might work?
19:37 < weq> Get-FileHash and compare against every single file.
19:38 < jak2000> TheBard i think
19:54 < shadowRAMMM> Anyone able to get Windows 10 to have independent screen changing?
19:55 < shadowRAMMM> I have 2 monitors. I would like to switch between desktops on each screen independantly
19:55 < kruug> screen changing?
19:55 < shadowRAMMM> default W10 behaviour is it changes both screens because its 1 desktop split over 2 screens
19:55 < kruug> Like, the background picture?
19:56 < shadowRAMMM> I want each screen to be independent desktop
19:56 < shadowRAMMM> no, the applications I have open
19:56 < S_SubZero> it doesn't work that way.
19:56 < shadowRAMMM> I know it doesnt. I was hoping someone found a 3rd party app that does this
19:56 < naphtali> A seperate session per monitor?
19:56 < S_SubZero> That would be utterly confusing, and I've never seen that in any OS ever
19:57 < shadowRAMMM> OS X has this
19:57 < S_SubZero> I use macOS and I've never seen that.
19:57 < S_SubZero> You can specify additional virtual desktops, which isn't monitors, and Windows 10 can do that too
19:57 < shadowRAMMM> you totally can do this, perhaps I'm not explaining it correctly.
19:57 < kruug> You can set it to show the icons of only what's on that monitor
19:58 < weq> shadowRAMMM: windows doesn't support this, use the feedback hub and request or find a 3rd party.
19:58 < shadowRAMMM> So you have 2 monitors, each monitor is its own area. If I mouse over the left monitor and change desktops, its independent of the right monitor
19:58 < shadowRAMMM> weq: agreed
19:59 < kruug> shadowRAMMM: are you talking virtual desktops?
19:59 < S_SubZero> if you have two virtual desktops on two different monitors macOS can do that.  I don't know if Win10 can do similar.  I don't know a use case.
19:59 < shadowRAMMM> I guess I was hoping someone else had seen something like this prior.
19:59 < weq> There is nothing much else to it.
19:59 < zenix_2k2> guys how can i open Windows media player via command line ?
19:59 < shadowRAMMM> ./path_to_exe
20:00 < Sitri> Isn't it in %PATH% as mplayer.exe?
20:00 < zenix_2k2> i don't think so
20:00 < weq> nope
20:00 < zenix_2k2> let's me check
20:00 < weq> "%ProgramFiles(x86)%\Windows Media Player\wmplayer.exe"
20:00 < zenix_2k2> yea nope
20:01 < zenix_2k2> is that for all versions of Wins ?
20:01 < kruug> probably
20:01 < weq> check for the versions that you need. it is for the correct path for win10prox64 atleast
20:02 < shadowRAMMM> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-start-winpc/how-to-display-different-virtual-desktops-on/186c8216-06b7-4132-833b-3d12b670d4e1
20:02 < weq> shouldn't be much devation for Windows x64.
20:02 < weq> shadowRAMMM: as I already stated.
20:03 < kruug> and for non-x64 "%ProgramFiles%\Windows Media Player\wmplayer.exe"
20:03 < zenix_2k2> well win7 as well
20:03 < zenix_2k2> but not sure about win8
20:03 < zenix_2k2> or XP :p
20:03 < zenix_2k2> i don't even know that XP has that or not
20:03 < weq> most likely unchanged. and if you intend to support windowsxp I'd run for the hills
20:03 < kruug> ^
20:04 < zenix_2k2> Nya, no one uses XP anymore
20:04 < zenix_2k2> except my school
20:04 < Snave> I just had the weirdest computer failure ever... My Windows 10 stopped reacting when I pressed keys on my keyboard, EXCEPT certain keys like tab, space and "i"
20:04 < TheBard> check your num lock
20:05 < Snave> I tried all sorts of catch-all troubleshooting guides, and now it reacts to key-presses again (thus i can type) but Control+C has no effect
20:05 < TheBard> or the special Fn key
20:05 < kruug> reboot
20:05 < Snave> i tried all of those, the problem seems to come and go
20:05 < Snave> I even reinstalled windows
20:05 < TheBard> ...
20:05 < kruug> Bad keyboard
20:06 < TheBard> Run in Safe Mode.  If it is still bad, then ^^
20:06 < Snave> It doesn't make any sense to me. Why would "i" work and not "j"?
20:06 < rymate1234> omg more sets features https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2018/04/04/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-17639-for-skip-ahead/
20:06 < Snave> the keyboard worked fine for 2 years
20:06 < kruug> I think jcotton posted that an hour or so ago :)
20:06 < sepeck> my car worked fine for 3 years, then one day it wouldn't start
20:06 < Snave> and when the problem occured, I had the same symtom when opening the "on-screen keyboard"
20:06 < rymate1234> so he did
20:07 < rymate1234> still
20:07 < sepeck> so... chances are, bad keyboard, OR your keyboard has a switch to disable keys (unlikely)
20:07 < TheBard> actaually, I don't believe you
20:07 < kruug> Snave: if it persists between Windows installs, it's a hardware issue.
20:07 < sepeck> ^^^
20:07 < kruug> or driver
20:07 < jcotton> rymate1234: are you on RS5?
20:07 < sepeck> less likley
20:08 < rymate1234> jcotton, yes because I apparently hate stability
20:08 < jcotton> fun
20:08 < jcotton> i'm excited for Sets, but not enough to destabilize my PCs
20:08 < Snave> I'm baffled... Your analysis makes sense to me, but why did I have the same symtom with the "on-screen" keyboard if it's hardware issue
20:08 < rymate1234> it's not been too bad so far
20:08 < rymate1234> the most unstable thing so far is... sets
20:09 < rymate1234> I mean it is on my tablet
20:09 < rymate1234> my laptop doesn't have sets
20:09 < rymate1234> no clue why
20:09 < zenix_2k2> so wait how can i run an mp3 file from cmd ???
20:09 < Snave> all right let me try find an external secondary keyboard, thanks
20:09 < zenix_2k2> i tried to use Wmplayer but something went wrong
20:10 < rymate1234> https://aka.ms/P9hx4r
20:10 < weq> zenix_2k2: try pathtowmplayer.exe pathtoMP3file
20:10 < zenix_2k2> "%ProgramFiles(x86)%\Windows Media Player\wmplayer.exe" myfile.mp3 <---
20:10 < zenix_2k2> i tried that
20:10 < zenix_2k2> weq: well ok
20:10 < jcotton> rymate1234: they might still be A/B'ing Sets
20:10 < jcotton> they were doing 1803
20:10 < rymate1234> all people on RS5 should have it
20:10 < zenix_2k2> wait that is what i did but it still not work
20:10 < jcotton> rymate1234: ah
20:10 < weq> zenix_2k2: if you aren't in the correct folder it will assume the folder you are already in.
20:11 < zenix_2k2> yea i am currently in Desktop
20:11 < zenix_2k2> and i put myfile.mp3 in it
20:11 < rymate1234> this is the first update to sets since it was readded to RS5 so hopefully this fixes that issue
20:11 < weq> works just fine here.
20:12 < fuze> do i need a separate xml answers file for capturing and another for installation
20:12 < fuze> thats what this guide suggests https://nerddrivel.com/2015/06/29/windows-creating-and-unattended-installation-disc/
20:12 < jcotton> zenix_2k2: if WMP is the default app for mp3 you could also do `start myfile.mp3`
20:12 < zenix_2k2> weq: paste me your full command please, i may have done something wrong i suppose
20:12 < zenix_2k2> oh ok
20:13 < weq> https://imgur.com/a/zhGwJ
20:14 < zenix_2k2> btw, is Wmplayer the default sound-player on every version of Windows ???
20:14 < zenix_2k2> except XP <
20:14 < TheBard> no
20:14 < zenix_2k2> so what else ?
20:14 < jcotton> Win10 uses Groove
20:15 < zenix_2k2> but does it still have VMplayer ?
20:15 < TheBard> yes
20:15 < kruug> yes
20:15 < zenix_2k2> so how about Win8 ?
20:15 < zenix_2k2> Groove also ?
20:15 < kruug> Yes
20:16 < zenix_2k2> no i mean the player
20:16 < TheBard> does this discussion have some point?
20:16 < zenix_2k2> well not pretty sure but i guess yes
20:16 < weq> zenix_2k2: what is the real purpose behind doing all this? Just play a mp3 from a script? if so what sort of script.
20:16 < zenix_2k2> Python
20:16 < zenix_2k2> and also in a batch sometime
20:17 < TheBard> WMP wont play in 10 without being configured by the user, by default.
20:17 < TheBard> even with a script.
20:17 < zenix_2k2> so how about 8 ?
20:17 < TheBard> same thing.
20:17 < zenix_2k2> HHHmmm... welp, fine then
20:18 < jcotton> if you're playing audio from a Python script find a library for it
20:18 < weq> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.windows.media.mediaplayer(v=vs.110).aspx <- I used this in old powershell scripts to give me audible queues of far along the script pass worked etc.
20:18 < weq> I would do as jcotton says there instead. No need in inventing the wheel again.
20:21 < zenix_2k2> there is no binary for it i think
20:21 < zenix_2k2> people on #python have also suggested me this way
20:22 < zenix_2k2> i mean library*
20:22 < zenix_2k2> opps my english
20:23 < zenix_2k2> And oh hey, i actually needed to put the full path to the mp3 file
20:23 < zenix_2k2> anyway thank
20:26 < AlexPortable> switched to higher dpi, now back to lower, but the font size is smaller. how do i fix it? https://imgur.com/a/aGfb2
20:31 < kruug> Does IE's kiosk mode allow access to the address bar and on-screen keyboard?
20:45 < rosco_y> Can the Disk Manager enable me to move empty space from another partition to my C: partition?
20:45 < weq> no.
20:46 < rosco_y> weq: thank you.  Do you know of a utility that can do that?
20:46 < kruug> gparted
20:46 < weq> disk manager + other tools maybe. it depends on the layout of the disk etc on how long it might take etc.
20:46 < rosco_y> or is this the time when "reformat" is actually the right answer.
20:47 < rosco_y> I suppose the easiest thing for me to do is start uninstalling cr@p I don't use.
20:47 < rosco_y> why not, after all?
20:47 < rosco_y> Sounds reasonable to me :)  Thanks weq!
20:48 < kruug> GParted can expand your current space into adjacent unallocated space.
20:48 < CptLuxx> window can do the same kruug
20:48 < CptLuxx> if there is unused space after the partition ...
20:48 < CptLuxx> if not not even gparted can do it
20:48 < rosco_y> kruug: that is interesting.  I'm even partially familiar with gparted.
20:50 < rosco_y> Thanks again weq, kruug.  I think I can get through this now :)  (wish me luck anyways)
20:50 < rosco_y> :) kudos
20:57 < iodev> Usurp, you work on reactos
20:57 < iodev> I have a few questions, but somewhere else pls
21:04 < weq> iodev: try the reactos channel
21:06 < iodev> weq already there :-)
21:24 < James_Epp> I have a windows 8.1 installation with most of the apps showing that annoying 'x' over all of them. Even the PC Settings metro app doesn't open. powershell Get-AppXPackage -Allusers as admin returns nothing. Is it worth even trying to fix? Is having PC Settings really that important? I mean in Windows 10 I'd call that an unnegotiable, necessary feature but win8 I'm not so sure.
21:25 < James_Epp> oh and the store doesn't open either, so updating apps is trickier still.
21:27 < S_SubZero> it worked ------ [something happened here that we don't know] ------- it stopped working
21:27 < S_SubZero> fill in that middle part and maybe we can propose a solution
21:29 < James_Epp> S_SubZero: :D
21:58 < S_SubZero> Hmm.. Dynamic Lock says it's paired to my phone, but my phone insists it's not paired to my PC.  ~mystery~
22:04 < genera> it is paired, just not to your phone \o/
22:05 < rymate1234> S_SubZero, might not need to be paired, just in range
22:05 < S_SubZero> yeah I'm thinking the PC cares about the 'half pairing' but the iPhone is like "whatevs"
22:06 < S_SubZero> i have yet to see this lock thing actually work, gotta fool with it on the Spring Update and see if they tweaked it
22:10 < mandeep> is there a recommended way to go from a windows/linux dual boot to sole windows boot?
22:10 < mandeep> i had planned on deleting the linux partition then repairing the window bootloader
22:10 < kruug> That should be enough.
22:10 < mandeep> kruug: thanks
22:15 < rymate1234> jcotton, well I still don't have sets, but I do have the *fantastic* calculator improvements
22:17 < TheBard> the enter key is more magical than ever? the square root even MORE square?
22:18 < rymate1234> actually the square root was improved!
22:19 < rymate1234> > Windows Calculator has been updated (version 10.1803.711.0) to now correctly calculates square roots for perfect squares (integers that are squares of other integers).
22:21 < AlexPortable> switched to higher dpi, now back to lower, but the font size is smaller. how do i fix it? https://imgur.com/a/aGfb2
22:21 < CptLuxx> dude
22:21 < CptLuxx> how often do you want to ask this?
22:21 < CptLuxx> it seems like nobody here has a solution so
22:21 < weq> CptLuxx: roughly ever 2 hours or so it would seem.
22:22 < CptLuxx> do a system restore / restore your backup / do a clean install
22:23 < S_SubZero> DPI changes typically require a signout/signin eh
22:23 < CptLuxx> we are over this already S_SubZero
22:24 < Roserin> Is there some legacy app changing your dpi?
22:24 < S_SubZero> does he typically respond or just blast the questoin and then vanish
22:24 < blkshp> AlexPortable: ping
22:25 < TheBard> maybe he's a trained pearl diver.
22:25 < blkshp> Is that Windows 7?
22:25 < CptLuxx> it is
22:25 < blkshp> you already know my answer :D
22:25 < Roserin> :P
22:25 < Roserin> true, though
22:26 < Roserin> Is the other channel in the topic yet?
22:26 < TheBard> Which?
22:26 < blkshp> rephrase?
22:26 < blkshp> topic, that reminds me
22:26 < Roserin> Wasn’t there a legacy support channel?
22:27 < TheBard> ##windows-legacy
22:27 < Roserin> That’s the one
22:27 < blkshp> it is in there.
22:27 < blkshp> Seriously! consider lookin at it at all?
22:27 < TheBard> 654 days till EOL
22:28 < Roserin> Can’t  see topic on mobile, sorry
22:28 < Roserin> My b
22:28 < blkshp> get a better client!
22:29 < Roserin> Am I being banned?
22:29  * Roserin ducks
22:30 <@blkshp> ducking wont save you.
22:30 <@blkshp> :P
22:30 < CptLuxx> sending money will save you
22:30  * Roserin sends money
22:30 < kruug> Can I pay in garliccoin?
22:30 < CptLuxx> only putincoin
22:30 < CptLuxx> nvm move on now
22:31 < Roserin> Question for the channel: do you think “open source” is the future for Windows?
22:32 < CptLuxx> no
22:32 < weq> Nope.
22:32 < weq> certain aspects of it sure, but not entire windows.
22:33 < S_SubZero> Roserin: Do I think people will still write open source software for Windows?  Yes.
22:33 < TheBard> VMWare is a good example.
22:34 < rymate1234> vmware isn't open source
22:34 < weq> vmware is a company
22:34 < weq> please be specific
22:34 < weq> certain products from VMware have been open source
22:35 < ravioli> they were probably talking about those, then, weq.
22:35 < weq> Let's not assume.
22:35 < ravioli> if you're lacking specifics, you can use what's called "context clues" to figure out what they meant.
22:35 < weq> or I can tell them that they are unclear
22:44 < mandeep> is there a way to repair a gpt partition or should i just reinstall windows 7
22:45 < S_SubZero> I guess it depends on how bad the gpt partition is "needing repair"
22:46 < mandeep> S_SubZero: just need to fix the boot record. the system is still looking for grub
22:47 < mandeep> wait looks like i got it
22:47 < S_SubZero> I'm not sure how extensive Win7's GPT repair stuff is.
22:47 < mandeep> yeah it wasnt great but after trying a few different diskpart commands i got it working
22:54 < donofrio> Roserin, it already is, we have WSL and that is a start in running open source on windows
22:55 < Roserin> Yeah, that’s what made me ask the question
22:55 < kruug> You could always run open source on Windows...
22:56 < kruug> Firefox, for example.
22:56 < AlexPortable> blkshp: yes
22:56 < AlexPortable> CptLuxx: well i haven't had an answer yet
22:56 < S_SubZero> Virtualbox!
22:56 < AlexPortable> S_SubZero: well i changed the dpi back to 100% a few days ago
22:56 < blkshp> ask a question, it would be courteous to stay for the answers
22:57 < blkshp> update to 10, my recommendation which you may choose to silently disregard :)
22:57 < S_SubZero> forums work better for the "I need to get this answered but I'm also a busy person and can't be bothered to wait for an answer" types
22:57 < AlexPortable> well i already asked the question 8 hours ago
22:58 < AlexPortable> and didnt get any answer
22:58 < blkshp> did you stay?
22:58 < kruug> Did you change the font size?
22:58 < AlexPortable> yes
22:58 < AlexPortable> no
22:58 < AlexPortable> i changed the dpi when i was using a 4k monitor
22:59 < kruug> then check the font size
22:59 < AlexPortable> then changed it back and switched monitors (to a 1080p)
22:59 < AlexPortable> font size is set to 100%
22:59 < kruug> might be less than 100%
22:59 < AlexPortable> it cant be less than 100% on win7
22:59 < kruug> Try 150%
22:59 < AlexPortable> that will make everything super huge
23:00 < AlexPortable> the thing is teh start menu and stuff are the right size
23:00 < AlexPortable> just right mouse button context menui's arent
23:00 < kruug> Did you reboot after changing DPI?
23:00 < AlexPortable> and the file / edit / view / tools menu of explorer
23:00 < AlexPortable> yes
23:00 < AlexPortable> i shutdown my computer daily, issue has been here for 3 days
23:01 < kruug> AlexPortable:  control panel... personalisation...window colour... advanced settings,,, active window. Just below it is "selected " and change that and the font gets larger.
23:03 < AlexPortable> https://www.sevenforums.com/attachments/tutorials/181d1225609512-window-color-appearance-change-classic_color_and_appearance-1.jpg
23:03 < AlexPortable> where is active window?
23:03 < c|oner> are you looking for that menu in Win10?
23:03 < AlexPortable> no, 7
23:03 < c|oner> click on active window in the picutre.
23:03 < kruug> AlexPortable: Could just be "window"
23:04 < c|oner> it will change the dropdown
23:04 < AlexPortable> active window border?
23:04 < kruug> AlexPortable: no, Active Window in the picture up top.
23:04 < c|oner> click on stuff in the picture!
23:04 < c|oner> click on stuff in the picture!
23:04 < AlexPortable> ohh wait
23:04 < AlexPortable> welp i didnt know that was a thing
23:04 < c|oner> neither did anyone else ever, except for me.
23:04 < S_SubZero> knew it years ago
23:05 < AlexPortable> what are the default values for win7?
23:05 < c|oner> well did you know about this : https://www.wintools.info/index.php/system-font-size-changer
23:05 < kruug> c|oner: knew it in 3.1.  Never had to mess with it since.
23:05 < blkshp> i did too!
23:05 < blkshp> same kruug :)
23:05 < blkshp> and for this image you linked that i am looking at AlexPortable: ew!
23:05 < kruug> c|oner: eh, I'd rather use built-in tools instead of installing unknown 3rd party tools.
23:06 < c|oner> they flushed the built in tools in Win10 Creators.
23:06 < c|oner> without telling anyone
23:06 < c|oner> real nice for people with acccessibility needs
23:06 < kruug> That same Appearance window that AlexPortable is in still exists in 10
23:06 < c|oner> "use DPI sca..." suck a lemon
23:06 < kruug> even after CU
23:07 < c|oner> doubtful
23:08 < jcotton> some of the display options are back in SCU
23:08 < jcotton> i think
23:08 < jcotton> i don't have my VM on hand at the moment tho
23:25 < AlexPortable> thanks
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